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  30. # [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd626d738af7 - Ed Morley - Backout 41722f2e0c33 (bug 422132), 69da5f098237 (bug 782903), 5c601428c70b (bug 422132) for bug 782903
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  53. # [01:07] <Marco> it Gecko embedding still supported?
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  56. # [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a06c82253ab - Ed Morley - Bug 552424 - Disable browser_464620_a.js and browser_464620_b.js on Windows for failing 500 times without anyone caring; r=philor
  57. # [01:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fdb5fa19cf3 - Ed Morley - Bug 608634 - Disable test_error_in_video_document.html for too many intermittent failures; r=philor
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  60. # [01:18] <philor> man, with all the broken shit we're running on desktop and android xul because b2g or metro or whoever wants it but can't do their own testing, turns out brendan was wrong about there being no free lunch, back when m-c was created
  61. # [01:22] <cjones> point of order: b2g does its own testing, but it doesn't play well with tinderbox (yet)
  62. # [01:25] <edmorley> point of order: tinderbox isn't used for anything other than tree status any more :-)
  63. # [01:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41e3045d37b0 - Chris Jones - Bug 776069: Disable remote audio for gonk. Sigh. r=kinetik
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  65. # [01:26] <edmorley> Anyway, roll on 28th when we can chuck android XUL under the bus
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  69. # [01:30] <philor> the non-Windows instances are all from a rogue test running after it finished, it's really Windows-only
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  78. # [01:53] <philor> mmm, inconvenient, Windows-pgo-only
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  99. # [02:09] <jdm> woo, identified the regressing bug for a top orange
  100. # [02:09] <jdm> good feelings
  101. # [02:09] <marco> glandium: ping
  102. # [02:10] <philor> jdm++
  103. # [02:11] <philor> why does this android mochitest log start with eight lines like "@@@@@@@@@hi there: 1"?
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  105. # [02:12] <philor> entirely too much resemblance to a scriptkiddie's "this mochitest run pwned by d@Rk@v3nG3r"
  106. # [02:14] <philor> oh, because http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/test/file_bug475636.sjs dump()s it, and Android can't be bothered with things like actually intertwingling the log so it makes sense
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  129. # [03:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/175c0a74f744 - Ed Morley - Backout 2b5b8baa5816 (bug 767636) for causing bug 783836
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  170. # [04:44] <masayuki> edmorley: Why didn't you just disable the new tests?
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  172. # [04:45] <masayuki> edmorley: Another bug fix depends on the backed out change.
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  174. # [04:48] <masayuki> Oops, he has quit from this room before the backout...
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  178. # [04:59] <darktrojan> wow mobile safari is teh suck
  179. # [04:59] <darktrojan> no wonder people use apps for everything
  180. # [05:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9f462ea67f9 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 783825 - Fix b2g breakage after bug 553102 [r=cjones]
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  207. # [06:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2559ad2a0fe - Phil Ringnalda - Back out a9f462ea67f9 (bug 783825) for mochitest-chrome bustage
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  209. # [06:23] <fabrice> philor: arg. It was clean locally, thanks anyway
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  211. # [06:28] <philor> in the good old days, I'd say "oh, you must have forgotten to package something then" but you shouldn't have to, so I don't see anything obvious
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  219. # [06:49] <philor> that silly "You didn't touch the mouse or keyboard during the test did you?" failure wants two times to be 1000ms apart, and the first failure I caught was 1003ms apart
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  225. # [07:02] <Callek> philor: not that we need to worry this late on a sat, or throughout tomorrow, but I'm bringing down one set of *production* worthy tegras for a 24 hour ish test on linux-foopy
  226. # [07:02] <Callek> in prep of bring all the new tegras into production
  227. # [07:03] <Callek> this will be a staging run, with production quality machines, really
  228. # [07:03] <Callek> just as an FYI
  229. # [07:03] <Callek> so we'll be short ~15 machines
  230. # [07:03] <philor> 'k, I'll stay off the retrigger button
  231. # [07:03] <philor> though I've pretty much sworn off it, except for talos on mobile pushes
  232. # [07:03] <Callek> right now we're only running jobs on try for tegras, and no pendings
  233. # [07:04] <philor> oh, and thanks for the WinXP slaves, since I'm grabbing them 20 at a time :)
  234. # [07:05] <Callek> hehe
  235. # [07:05] <Callek> no problem
  236. # [07:05] <Callek> it was either that or disable all winXP jobs, and file bugs to get IT to reimage as win7 slaves
  237. # [07:05] <Callek> and I didn't want to take the heat for that
  238. # [07:05] <Callek> :-)
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  243. # [07:18] <philor> plus we'll need them for win64 when February comes around and nobody has remembered that the product team expects it to be tier 1 by then
  244. # [07:19] <Callek> haha what?
  245. # [07:19] <Callek> w64 is tier_1 in feb?
  246. # [07:19] <Callek> you sure?
  247. # [07:20] <philor> yeah, everybody accepted that that was what Asa said on the day he said it, and by the next week nobody remembered a thing about it
  248. # [07:21] <philor> oh, not February, "early next year"
  249. # [07:21] <philor> and since we usually slip Q1 to Q3, next fall
  250. # [07:22] <philor> "There is a very good chance that we will want to transition capable systems to 64-bit Firefox builds for Windows 7 (and newer Windows versions) at some point in the not too distant future -- right now I'm thinking early next year."
  251. # [07:27] <philor> of course it being releasable probably means shifting people down the trains, so we'd need enough slaves to test trunk 18 weeks before
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  255. # [07:33] <philor> wonder whether it's possible that PGO builds are way less reliable on WinXP
  256. # [07:33] <philor> if https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e7bd84f2366e was an Android suite, we'd have it hidden for having an unacceptable failure rate
  257. # [07:36] <philor> and it's a PGO build because bug 763894 has failed something like 340 times on WinXP PGO, and 3 on WinXP non-PGO
  258. # [07:36] <philor> despite running, what, 5 or 10 times as often on non-PGO
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  284. # [08:20] <firebot> Check-in:
  285. # [08:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d04dd4660c54 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 763894 - Increase the fuzzy comparison of how much the idle time increased to 1.5 seconds instead of 1 second to account for the fuzziness of WinXP PGO
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  321. # [09:29] <Ms2ger> fabrice, exactly
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  327. # [09:36] <@smaug> um, will I have to use paper plates during breakfast... silly Americans
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  333. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Europe \o/
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  337. # [09:47] <Unfocused> middle of nowhere \o/
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  353. # [10:14] <@smaug> Ms2ger: If we hope that people start using testharness.js, MDN needs to at least point to the place where the documentation can be found
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  355. # [10:14] <Ms2ger> smaug, yeah, I'm planning to write up some docs too
  356. # [10:16] <@smaug> that would be breat
  357. # [10:17] <@smaug> (not just planning, but actually writing ;) )
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  364. # [10:30] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, FWIW, an SSD does somewhat speed up various disk operations, like "find -name" and maybe qpush/qpop/etc.
  365. # [10:30] <AryehGregor> But it doesn't speed up compile times much, no.
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  370. # [10:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4210bdcf836 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 782614 - Don't return nsresult from main() (rdf/); r=bsmedberg
  371. # [10:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9e13da6a652 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 776481 - Don't try returning nsresult in place of bool (accessible/); r=tbsaunde
  372. # [10:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84bf19883685 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 782614 - Don't return nsresult from main() (xpcom/); r=bsmedberg
  373. # [10:49] <darktrojan> paper plates what
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  377. # [10:58] <glandium> AryehGregor: and if you have enough RAM, the ssd will only speed disk operations once. Because next time you access the files, they are likely to be in RAM already
  378. # [10:58] <AryehGregor> glandium, yes. In practice, a full recompile usually involves hg pull -u, which probably puts all the changed files in RAM.
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  380. # [10:59] <glandium> however, qpush/qpop/etc are, in themselves, slow operations.
  381. # [10:59] <glandium> even when everything is in ram
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  389. # [11:22] <RealRaven> ping
  390. # [11:22] <RealRaven> Good morning! I really would like to review some patches but... I am having trouble with my build for the last 10 days; can somebody help me?
  391. # [11:22] <Ms2ger> You're using gcc 4.2?
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  394. # [11:24] <RealRaven> no I don't think so?
  395. # [11:24] <RealRaven> buyilding under windows, I can pastebin the error I am getting?
  396. # [11:24] <AryehGregor> RealRaven, what does "having trouble with my build" mean?
  397. # [11:24] <AryehGregor> Yes, please pastebin errors.
  398. # [11:25] <AryehGregor> On IRC, it's usually preferred that you give people as much info as possible up front instead of asking "can anyone help me?" Generally the answer is "we don't know if we can help until you tell us your full question, so please ask".
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  401. # [11:25] <RealRaven> AryehGregor: it fails near the end of compilation
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  404. # [11:25] <RealRaven> I checked out c-c and m-c; just running the build now to catch the error again, if was something with PIP IIRC
  405. # [11:26] <AryehGregor> (Why the heck does "hg qpop" take a good second or two when I have an SSD and 16G RAM? That doesn't strike me as reasonable.)
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  410. # [11:27] <RealRaven> some weird error about not having bein able to create some pip script or something... will have the error in a second...
  411. # [11:27] <RealRaven> ....
  412. # [11:27] <RealRaven> ...
  413. # [11:27] <RealRaven> this is weird.
  414. # [11:27] <NeilAway> glandium: --with-system-zlib now sets MOZ_ZLIB_LIBS instead of ZLIB_LIBS?
  415. # [11:28] <glandium> NeilAway: yes
  416. # [11:28] <glandium> AryehGregor: because hg sucks
  417. # [11:28] <AryehGregor> glandium, well, *I* know that.
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  420. # [11:30] <RealRaven> AryehGregor: very strange. I did make.py -C ../obj-i686/ tier_app for the 5th pr 6th time, but this time it built! testing the build...
  421. # [11:30] <NeilAway> glandium: well, I would have expected it the other way around, like we do for (say) nspr
  422. # [11:30] <glandium> AryehGregor: and as i was saying in some thread in dev-planning or dev-platform, 2 years ago, it was not so bad
  423. # [11:30] <NeilAway> glandium: not that it's a problem
  424. # [11:31] <AryehGregor> glandium, really?
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  426. # [11:31] * NeilAway just cargo-cults EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS anyway
  427. # [11:31] <glandium> AryehGregor: the combination of history depth and source tree size makes it slower and slower
  428. # [11:31] <AryehGregor> Ah, I see.
  429. # [11:31] <glandium> (it being hg)
  430. # [11:31] <gaston> Ms2ger: what happened to gcc 4.2 while i was on holidays ? :)
  431. # [11:31] <AryehGregor> Does git do any better? You'd think the kernel would be comparable in size, if not bigger.
  432. # [11:31] <glandium> 2 years ago, history depth was a third of what it is today
  433. # [11:32] <AryehGregor> Certainly has more revisions.
  434. # [11:32] <Ms2ger> gaston, so we had a perf regression...
  435. # [11:32] <Ms2ger> gaston, and we fixed it with templates
  436. # [11:32] <gaston> boo
  437. # [11:32] <glandium> AryehGregor: 310k revisions in my oldish linux-2.6 clone
  438. # [11:32] <glandium> from 2 months ago
  439. # [11:32] <gaston> so.. that means gcc 4.2 is "officially" unsupported ?
  440. # [11:33] <AryehGregor> 2.6 is more than "oldish", it's ancient.
  441. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> gaston, not sure
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  443. # [11:33] <glandium> AryehGregor: the repo is still called linux-2.6
  444. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> espindola was looking at it, I think
  445. # [11:33] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: you have a problem. you think "I know, I can fix this with templates." you now have two problems ;-)
  446. # [11:33] <AryehGregor> Oh, my bad.
  447. # [11:33] <gaston> Ms2ger: bug # ?
  448. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, well, it did work to get faster ;)
  449. # [11:33] <glandium> AryehGregor: it's 3.5-rc1 + 110 commits
  450. # [11:33] <AryehGregor> This is just called "linux": http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=summary
  451. # [11:34] <AryehGregor> Ah, okay.
  452. # [11:34] <AryehGregor> So yeah, that's three times our commits.
  453. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> gaston, bug 777174
  454. # [11:34] <AryehGregor> (less than I'd have guessed, but I guess we're pretty big too!)
  455. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> I wonder how many backouts linux gets
  456. # [11:34] <gaston> Ms2ger: thx
  457. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> Np
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  461. # [11:39] <RealRaven> AryehGregor: Hmm, whatever I built there it seems to crash right away: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1765076
  462. # [11:40] <RealRaven> would 550kb be a typical size for a thunderbird.exe?
  463. # [11:41] <RealRaven> AryehGregor: according to process explorer, it is running, but there is no main window.
  464. # [11:41] <AryehGregor> RealRaven, that's about the size I see on my (Linux) machine.
  465. # [11:41] <AryehGregor> And sorry, I don't see anything in that log that suggests what might be happening.
  466. # [11:41] <RealRaven> AryehGregor: ok, what could cause the main window not to show?
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  468. # [11:42] <AryehGregor> I have no idea. Way outside my field of expertise.
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  470. # [11:42] <RealRaven> it is strange that Tb says it exited and then seems to start again...
  471. # [11:42] <AryehGregor> To the best of my knowledge, GUIs are mysterious things fashioned out of unicorns and pixie dust.
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  474. # [11:42] <AryehGregor> Except you have to use different unicorns and pixie dust on different platforms.
  475. # [11:45] <darktrojan> ours is powered by nyan cat these days
  476. # [11:45] <RealRaven> yes, I will probably clobber and invoke the power of nyan cat again
  477. # [11:46] <RealRaven> is there any way I can clobber without running make config again? That's always too painfaul
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  480. # [11:52] <glandium> RealRaven: make clean, but that's probably about as slow as running configure again
  481. # [11:53] <RealRaven> ok. so what's the safest route? delete evertying in the obj folder first, then make.py -f client.mk configure ?
  482. # [11:54] <RealRaven> that's building 2.5 Gb of data... several hours of waiting
  483. # [11:55] <RealRaven> would be great if I could build config while retaining all obj files
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  485. # [11:56] * AryehGregor is sorry for people who take hours to do a full rebuild
  486. # [11:56] <efaust> 27 minutes B)
  487. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, thanks, it's appreciated ;)
  488. # [11:56] <efaust> I love this machine
  489. # [11:56] <AryehGregor> That pretty much prohibits you from working on things like, say, nsErroh.
  490. # [11:56] <AryehGregor> nsError.h
  491. # [11:56] <AryehGregor> .
  492. # [11:56] * Ms2ger grumbles
  493. # [11:56] <AryehGregor> efaust, 15 minutes for me.
  494. # [11:57] <efaust> AryehGregor: missing out on coffee break opportunities that way. Too fast :P
  495. # [11:57] <efaust> plus, you don't actually clobber that often, working on most things
  496. # [11:58] <Ms2ger> He does :)
  497. # [11:58] <AryehGregor> Touching nsError.h pretty much requires a full rebuild, and I've been doing that a lot lately.
  498. # [11:58] <efaust> yeah, but you do dev on a jet engine, apparently
  499. # [11:58] <RealRaven> efaust: does that include build configure?
  500. # [11:59] <AryehGregor> Sheesh, it's like less than $500 for the CPU+RAM.
  501. # [11:59] <RealRaven> efaust: I only have a lowly phenomII quad core running in 32bit mode
  502. # [11:59] <efaust> c.c
  503. # [11:59] <Ms2ger> You know what's nice?
  504. # [11:59] <Ms2ger> When you call do_QueryInterface
  505. # [12:00] <Ms2ger> And crash in nsWrapperCache::WrapObject
  506. # [12:00] <efaust> O.o
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  508. # [12:00] <efaust> I would not expect that to happen
  509. # [12:00] <Ms2ger> Well
  510. # [12:00] <Ms2ger> Depends on what you pass to do_QueryInterface :)
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  512. # [12:01] <efaust> Ms2ger: you are gonna make me get out of bed and try and track down that XHR crash, aren't you
  513. # [12:01] * RealRaven starts making configure at 10:51.
  514. # [12:01] <Ms2ger> efaust, I already did :)
  515. # [12:01] * RealRaven after clobbering :(
  516. # [12:02] <efaust> Ms2ger: you fixed the bug that's blocking 776239?
  517. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> Fixed, not yet :)
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  519. # [12:04] <efaust> ok, so why was the nsCOMPtry constructor getting NULL?
  520. # [12:04] * efaust get yanked away this afternoon before looking more deeply
  521. # [12:05] <efaust> oh, because qi failed?
  522. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> Yeah
  523. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> If we don't implement nsIClassInfo, and try to QI to it... :)
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  528. # [12:19] <dRdR> efaust: go to sleep!
  529. # [12:20] <efaust> dRdR: meh, it's only 2 hours, now
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  535. # [12:26] <AryehGregor> I wish I could tell try to reuse the object files from a previous build.
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  537. # [12:27] <AryehGregor> Whack-a-mole with compiler errors is one thing if it's on localhost and the incremental compile takes five minutes.
  538. # [12:27] <AryehGregor> It's quite a different thing if I'm using try to compile on Windows and each error fixed requires another 80 minutes for rebuild . . .
  539. # [12:27] <AryehGregor> (despite the fact that I'm only changing one .cpp, typically)
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  555. # [12:51] <darktrojan> AryehGregor, get yourself a twig
  556. # [12:51] <AryehGregor> ?
  557. # [12:52] <darktrojan> it's a little branch
  558. # [12:52] <darktrojan> you can use it all by yourself
  559. # [12:52] <AryehGregor> How does that help me?
  560. # [12:53] <darktrojan> the build infr can build incrementally on it
  561. # [12:55] <darktrojan> https://wiki.mozilla.org/DisposableProjectBranches
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  563. # [13:03] <glandium> darktrojan: that involves a lot more waiting than an additional try build, and all that for a one-off
  564. # [13:03] <RealRaven> AryehGregor: so I have built config.
  565. # [13:04] <RealRaven> a measly 8.5 MBytes
  566. # [13:04] <RealRaven> so now I am going to make.py -f client.mk
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  572. # [13:11] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, yeah, lots of regex
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  574. # [13:19] <NeilAway> anyone know what MOZ_APP_LAUNCHER is?
  575. # [13:20] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, if I have code that needs to return an nsISimpleEnumerator, and currently constructs one from an nsISupportsArray, how can I change it to construct from something sane instead? Like an nsTArray or whatever?
  576. # [13:21] <Ms2ger> Write an implementation of nsISimpleEnumerator for nsTArray
  577. # [13:21] <Ms2ger> I'm pretty sure we don't have one yet
  578. # [13:21] <AryehGregor> :(
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  582. # [13:29] <gaston> yay down to 24 bugmails/1 bug to read
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  588. # [13:36] <gaston> glandium: :( this ffi patch maze is killing me
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  590. # [13:40] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: you can make one from an nsCOMArray if it helps
  591. # [13:41] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, there's your problem, thinking that it's possible to write an implementation
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  597. # [13:51] <decoder> my gf is having a startup crash on her linux: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/dcf16847-0f22-4d0b-8fbe-f6e4e2120818
  598. # [13:51] <decoder> i wonder what that is, it seems to be in png code
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  601. # [13:51] <decoder> safe mode works, but when you try to start regularly again it comes back
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  604. # [13:54] <zzzzz_> decoder: if it works in safe-mode, that usually points to an addon not playing nice
  605. # [13:55] <Matti> did honza leave mozilla ?
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  608. # [13:57] <decoder> zzzzz_: she doesnt have any uncommon addons installed, but ill double check
  609. # [13:57] <zzzzz_> ok
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  612. # [14:01] <decoder> zzzzz_: yea. nothing unusual. adblock, mass password reset, and the two ubuntu extensions
  613. # [14:01] <decoder> however I suspect it could be one of the ubuntu extensions
  614. # [14:02] <decoder> but if so, the bug is still in firefox pretty surre
  615. # [14:02] <decoder> the crash report indicates that it's trying to decode a png and crashes
  616. # [14:02] <decoder> the png could be from an extension, but still the bug is in the png decoder
  617. # [14:02] <decoder> i cant reproduce it anymore now even with the ubuntu extensions reenabled :(
  618. # [14:02] <zzzzz_> ahh, the joys of software :P
  619. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, I don't guess you're around?
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  637. # [14:29] <Matti> decoder: disable the color management in Firefox as workaround
  638. # [14:30] <Matti> decoder: the crash could depend on the systems color profile
  639. # [14:34] <decoder> Matti: thanks, unfortunately it's hard to check if that fixes the problem if it doesnt repro anymore now, but when it pops up agian ill try
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  663. # [15:27] <edmorley> Ms2ger: hi :-)
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  680. # [15:50] <RealRaven1> so I am finished with building the tree but got some errors: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1765366
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  706. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> Good morning :)
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  708. # [16:27] <@smaug> Hyvää huomenta
  709. # [16:27] <sawrubh> :)
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  711. # [16:29] <sawrubh> smaug: Hyvää viikonloppua
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  713. # [16:30] <sawrubh> hmm..happy and good both translate to the same thing..interesting
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  715. # [16:30] <@smaug> happy same as good o_O
  716. # [16:30] <@smaug> happy is iloinen
  717. # [16:30] <@smaug> good is hyvä or hyvää
  718. # [16:31] <sawrubh> you said good morning and I said happy weekend and both had Hyvää so I thought :s
  719. # [16:31] <@smaug> it would be a bit odd to say iloista viikonloppua
  720. # [16:32] <@smaug> note, iloinen -> iloista
  721. # [16:32] <@smaug> languages are interesting, yet I never learn English properly
  722. # [16:32] <sawrubh> you converse fine on the irc, what else do you need ;)
  723. # [16:34] <@smaug> indeed :)
  724. # [16:34] <efaust> smaug: none of us ever do ;)
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  729. # [16:41] <RealRaven1> hmm, looks like build system is broken for good...... :( no more patches no more review.
  730. # [16:42] <RealRaven1> I clobbered twice now, checked out c-c and m-c twice, built config twice and rebuilt twice. It just won't finish building anymore :(
  731. # [16:43] <RealRaven1> was there a recent gdi32 update or some sdk deprecated?
  732. # [16:43] <RealRaven1> Or maybe VS 2008 was scrapped altogether? Does anybody know?
  733. # [16:43] <RealRaven1> It worked 2 or 3 weeks ago
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  736. # [16:45] <RealRaven1> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1765435
  737. # [16:45] <RealRaven1> LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'nsMailApp.obj'
  738. # [16:45] <RealRaven1> could this just be threading issue?
  739. # [16:46] <RealRaven1> how would I "link only" using make.py
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  741. # [16:49] <RealRaven1> is there any way I can compile nsMailApp.cpp from the IDE maybe?
  742. # [16:50] <gcp> not afaik
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  747. # [16:54] <RealRaven1> ok, is there anyway I can test a single makefile?
  748. # [16:55] <RealRaven1> it looks to me like mail/nsMailApp wasn't compiled for some weird reson
  749. # [16:55] <gcp> call make inside that dir?
  750. # [16:55] <RealRaven1> ok, will; try that
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  752. # [16:56] <RealRaven1> it says no makefile found. there is a makefile.in and a n app-config.mk
  753. # [16:56] <RealRaven1> there would be a makefile in the obj folder, but not sure how that works
  754. # [16:56] <gcp> you can use that one
  755. # [16:56] <RealRaven1> I am now in DEV/Thunderbird/comm-central/mail
  756. # [16:56] <RealRaven1> which one, and how?
  757. # [16:56] <gcp> i.e. you can run make in the objdir
  758. # [16:56] <RealRaven1> ok. sop I change to the objdir?
  759. # [16:57] <gcp> you can go inside objdir, then do make -C some/dir/here
  760. # [16:57] <gcp> (with the necessary post and suffixes to use pymake)
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  762. # [16:58] <RealRaven1> Ok, I have just went into /e/Dev/Mozilla/DEV/Thunderbird/comm-central/mail
  763. # [16:58] <RealRaven1> wrong I wanted to go into ../../;obj-686/mail/app
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  765. # [16:59] <RealRaven1> I am in the obj folder now
  766. # [16:59] <RealRaven1> e/Dev/Mozilla/DEV/Thunderbird/comm-central/mail
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  768. # [17:00] <RealRaven1> do I now need to make.py ../../comm-central/mail/app ??
  769. # [17:00] <RealRaven1> or just make.py -C
  770. # [17:00] <RealRaven1> ?
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  772. # [17:01] <RealRaven1> $ make.py -C ../../../comm-central/mail/app
  773. # [17:01] <RealRaven1> make.py[0]: Entering directory 'e:\Dev\Mozilla\DEV\Thunderbird\obj-i686\mail\app\../../../comm-central/mail/ap
  774. # [17:01] <RealRaven1> p'
  775. # [17:01] <RealRaven1> No makefile found
  776. # [17:01] <gcp> the makefiles are in the objdir
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  778. # [17:01] <gcp> you're giving the path to the srcdir
  779. # [17:02] <RealRaven1> I have changed my working directory to the obj dir
  780. # [17:02] <gcp> just go into objdir and do make -C mail/app
  781. # [17:03] <RealRaven1> hmm, getting the same error:
  782. # [17:03] <RealRaven1> LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'nsMailApp.obj'
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  784. # [17:03] <RealRaven1> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1765465
  785. # [17:04] <gcp> where is nsMailapp.* located?
  786. # [17:04] <gcp> can you paste your mozconfig?
  787. # [17:04] <RealRaven1> comm-central/mail/app
  788. # [17:05] <RealRaven1> pastebin.mozilla.org/1765468
  789. # [17:06] <RealRaven1> it always worked before, only difference is that I commented out ac_add_options --disable-debug-symbols
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  791. # [17:09] <RealRaven1> so is it not finding the cpp file, or does it fail compiling, or is in a file access issue?
  792. # [17:09] <gcp> you can grep your buildlog for nsMailApp and see if it's trying to invoke the compiler on it
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  796. # [17:12] <gcp> actualy it's a compile error on nsmailapp.cpp
  797. # [17:13] <gcp> strange though I only see a warning
  798. # [17:13] <gcp> unless msvc has some -Werror alike that we enable
  799. # [17:13] <Ms2ger> Only on request
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  801. # [17:15] <gcp> temporarily disabling that -j5 looks like it might be worth a try then
  802. # [17:16] <RealRaven> ok. I will try that for a moment
  803. # [17:17] <RealRaven> the same... :(
  804. # [17:18] <RealRaven> I also switched on disable-debug-symbols again, same result
  805. # [17:18] <RealRaven> but is mozconfig even read when I run the make? aren';t these setings in the makefile?
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  807. # [17:19] <gcp> hmmm, might need to rerun configure etc for it to take effect
  808. # [17:19] <gcp> i.e. a make -f client.mk in the right place
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  810. # [17:20] <RealRaven> och. I am not sure I want to wait another 3 hours to find out that is wasn't the right switch... what about looking at the makefile directly?
  811. # [17:21] <RealRaven> I am in the makefile now, looking for something that resembles a cl.exe
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  864. # [18:52] <philor> mmm, nightly-only builds using warnings-as-errors, what a good idea!
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  866. # [18:52] <philor> assuming the goal was to point out to me that someone has made a non-tier-1 build visible on mozilla-central
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  873. # [19:01] <Ms2ger> philor, yw ;)
  874. # [19:02] <NeilAway> is x/sh the best way to print a jschar* ?
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  886. # [19:22] <NeilAway> how fatal are JS_ASSERT_IFs?
  887. # [19:23] <evilpie> debug only
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  890. # [19:26] <NeilAway> evilpie: ta
  891. # [19:27] <evilpie> it's just MOZ_ASSERT_IF btw
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  893. # [19:38] <NeilAway> evilpie: yeah, handily I can use the debugger to jump past those ;-)
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  926. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f34cf4635b82 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
  927. # [20:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35b8d6ef5d46 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge last PGO-green changeset from mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
  928. # [20:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c06577220b1b - Kyle Huey - Bug 774888: Error out if there's no TimeStamp implementation. r=glandium
  929. # [20:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c85c83068e7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
  930. # [20:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd9112dd8271 - Kyle Huey - Bug 773435: Remove some extraneous nsIImageLoadingContent includes. r=jlebar
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  948. # [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b95f8a1ca34c - Fabrice Desré - Bug 783825 - Fix b2g breakage after bug 553102 - Part 1 : fix mozChromeEvent events and system message manager [r=gal]
  949. # [21:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c1dfc8d5b4b - Alexandre LISSY - Bug 783825 - Fix b2g breakage after bug 553102 - Part 2: wrap keyboard event detail [r=fabrice]
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  956. # [21:18] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: ?
  957. # [21:19] <Ms2ger> Does it sound feasible to you that nsWindowSH::NewResolve never gets an outer window?
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  960. # [21:24] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, ^
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  962. # [21:25] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: That should never happen.
  963. # [21:25] <Ms2ger> Do you mind if I remove the code that checks for them?
  964. # [21:26] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: that should be fine.
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  966. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, ta
  967. # [21:27] <RealRaven> n somebody have a look at the last stages of my earlybird build?
  968. # [21:28] <RealRaven> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1765853
  969. # [21:28] <RealRaven> what do all these error mean? thunderbird.exe was built, it has the right time stamp, and it took about 2:25 hours to do it
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  971. # [21:32] <mrbkap> RealRaven: mozmill is a testing harness.
  972. # [21:32] <mrbkap> RealRaven: I don't know what your error means, though.
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  975. # [21:33] <mrbkap> RealRaven: it's probable that earlybird built fine, though and that all that failed was the tests.
  976. # [21:33] <mrbkap> RealRaven: but I'm not at all sure.
  977. # [21:33] <RealRaven> hmm, this time I was able to start it
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  979. # [21:34] <RealRaven> When I run it I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1765893
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  983. # [21:36] <RealRaven> So why does thunderbird.exe stop first and then run anyway?
  984. # [21:38] <jcranmer> sometimes we do restart, particularly if we find extensions
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  987. # [21:39] <RealRaven> ok. Or it could be that I misunderstood. I am calling thunderbird.exe -no-remote and then say echo Thunderbird exited and then pause
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  989. # [21:40] <RealRaven> My thinking was that my echo won't show until tb has returned (and finished)
  990. # [21:40] <RealRaven> But it is possible that it restarted. When I tried same this morning the restart seemed to crash
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  992. # [21:41] <RealRaven> And then I got into all the trouble with the nsMailApp.cpp not compiling anymore
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  994. # [21:41] <RealRaven> Building Thunderbird on Windows: a perfect way to spoil your Sunday :)
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  998. # [21:43] <RealRaven> Well at least I can start reviewing aceman's patches now...
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  1005. # [21:51] <kinetik> gaston: that's the plan, just need to get android/b2g backends for cubeb done before removing SA
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  1028. # [22:13] <gaston> kinetik: so since openbsd has the cubeb sndio backend, it completely supersedes the libsydney sndio backend we were shipping separately ?
  1029. # [22:13] <gaston> (ie can i ditch my sydneyaudio patches...)
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  1033. # [22:15] <kinetik> gaston: in theory, but i don't think the cubeb sndio backend is enabled yet...
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  1043. # [22:24] <gaston> kinetik: hmm i was pretty sure that it was enabled by default.. do you plan to enable cubeb by default globally, not backend by backend ?
  1044. # [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54f5895b567a - Nicolas Silva - Bug 782372 - Splits ImageLayers.h into ImageLayers.h ImageContainer.h and ImageTypes.h, r=bgirard
  1045. # [22:25] <gaston> i can still enable it locally through a pref..
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  1047. # [22:27] <kinetik> gaston: the pref is on, but the code to use it is only present for platforms that have MOZ_CUBEB defined in configure.in
  1048. # [22:27] <kinetik> gaston: and eventually, yes
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  1053. # [22:30] <gaston> ah so it's enabled by default on openbsd, nice
  1054. # [22:31] <gaston> that will allow me to remove quite a bunch of sydneyaudio local patches
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  1058. # [22:37] <kinetik> gaston: oh, so it is, excellent
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  1064. # [22:40] <fabrice> philor: do you think you're gonna merge inbound -> m-c today before the nightly builds?
  1065. # [22:40] <fabrice> that would be nice to have working b2g builds ;)
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  1067. # [22:42] <philor> fabrice: probably not me, but the odds are fairly good that someone will
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  1069. # [22:43] <fabrice> philor: ok, thanks
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  1108. # [23:49] <philor> hmm. one thing that changed between when try was tolerable and now when it's intolerable is that we stopped sending mail by default
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  1110. # [23:50] <philor> so it used to be that when you pushed something broken, and the linux64 test told you that it was broken, the only way to get the mail to shut up was to cancel everything else
  1111. # [23:52] <philor> now, there's absolutely no incentive to cancel pending/running tests that you don't need, which is why Friday night I was canceling people's WinXP tests on things they'd already landed (or landed, been backed out, and relanded)
  1112. # [23:52] <capella> I'm sorry....
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  1115. # [23:53] <fxa90id_> hi
  1116. # [23:53] <fxa90id_> capella, hi
  1117. # [23:53] <fxa90id_> can you help me ?
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  1119. # [23:54] <Callek> philor: we can get that turned back on :-)
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  1121. # [23:55] <capella> fxa90id_: i can try
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  1123. # [23:55] <capella> (sorry philor - was goofing with you :P )
  1124. # [23:56] <philor> Callek: what I really want is something like Amazon's "we're having trouble getting this, if you don't click this link we'll cancel your order" mail, except I don't want to set up a situation where pushing to try before you go to bed doesn't work, since that's the best way to spread the load
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  1127. # [23:56] <philor> capella: and then you stuck your head up, and got stuck having to promise help to someone with an unknown problem :D
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  1132. # [23:57] <capella> yah ... on Pm - is ok - i know what he needs
  1133. # [23:57] <Callek> philor: perhaps (theory) a X% of your jobs have failed already, priority-- on the rest of them, unless you click this button to bump it back up.
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  1135. # [23:57] <capella> hes an a11y irregular
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  1137. # [23:57] <Callek> I doubt thats exceptionally simple, but could be useful ;-)
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  1140. # [23:59] <@smaug> not nice at all, FF taking 80% cpu
  1141. # [23:59] <@smaug> after starting
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