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# Session Start: Tue Aug 21 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:03] <RyanVM> dholbert: philor: ^ just got the same thing on a Try push
# [00:03] <aki> coop|buildduty: ^^
# [00:03] <imelven> RyanVM: the smil crashes ??
# [00:03] <imelven> oops only meant to put one ?
# [00:03] <RyanVM> imelvin: no, the ssh issue
# [00:04] <imelven> oh ok
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# [00:05] <philor> the slavename will be the part that coop|buildduty is going to want to know, bld-centos6-hp-013 in the case of inbound
# [00:06] <philor> and bld-centos6-hp-031 for RyanVM's
# [00:06] <coop|buildduty> is this bug 783518?
# [00:06] <dholbert> looks like it
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# [00:07] <philor> that was aus keys, this is stage keys, no?
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# [00:08] <dholbert> philor, (I just posted the log on that bug -- apologies if that was incorrect)
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# [00:08] <philor> no worries, it keeps 'em on their toes
# [00:08] <dholbert> heh
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# [00:09] <dholbert> I don't know enough about that bug's backstory to know whether it's an instance of it or not -- just that it's all Android "Host key verification failed"
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# [00:09] <philor> but "Identity file /home/cltbld/.ssh/auspush not accessible: No such file or directory" doesn't seem the same as "Command ['ssh', '-o', 'IdentityFile=~/.ssh/trybld_dsa', 'trybld@stage.mozilla.org', 'mktemp -d'] returned non-zero exit code: 255"
# [00:09] <dholbert> ah right, now I see "Nightly" in the bug title
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# [00:12] <dholbert> philor, filing a bug, unless you already did
# [00:12] <philor> dholbert: I didn't, I figure it's going to be "turn off those slaves that rail added this morning until they get the right keys/get added to some file"
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# [00:16] <jlebar> bholley: So…you're not going to back out exposedprops?
# [00:17] <dholbert> philor, ok -- filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784177 , in any case
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# [00:21] <philor> coop|buildduty: anyway, I'm closing every tree that usefully closes
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# [00:22] <Callek> philor: closing solely for key issues, or closing due to the "needs a clobber" bustage, or both?
# [00:22] <philor> oh, not every, we don't use those slaves except on trunk
# [00:23] <philor> Callek: keys, I closed inbound for the clobber hours ago
# [00:23] <KWierso> philor: you're killing me, man
# [00:23] <philor> hmm, try or not, nobody really cares about their Android results anyway...
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# [00:25] <MarcoZ> philor: Not true, after I landed bug 783706 earlier, I was holding my breath for two hours or so. ;)
# [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6fc9e89951a9 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 777026: Use a touch delegate on Tabs button to overcome overlapping on menu button. [r=mfinkle] [a=lsblakk]
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# [00:38] <BenWa> khuey: I keep putting off landing it cause I fear things will explode, I will land it eventually
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# [00:40] <jlebar> Can someone PM me the password to the Mozilla Mobile wifi network?
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# [00:41] <philor> things explode? inconceivable!
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# [00:43] <MarcoZ> philor: How much longer will the tree be closed, do you think?
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# [00:44] <philor> MarcoZ: somewhere between an hour and days, I don't have any control over of knowledge of the Android slave keys part of it
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# [00:47] <MarcoZ> philor: I wonder who besides catlee-away would know and could fix those key issues.
# [00:48] <philor> MarcoZ: I know the name of the sekrit clubhouse where they are discussing it, but just knowing the name doesn't do me any good
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# [00:55] * philor likes his clobber so far
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# [00:58] <philor> RyanVM / margaret / snorp / bnicholson : don't forget to star your aurora pushes
# [00:58] <philor> margaret / snorp / bnicholson : don't forget to star your beta pushes
# [00:58] <margaret> philor: ok, looking
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# [01:00] <philor> smaug: don't forget to star your central push
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# [01:02] <RyanVM> philor: I was going to, I swear
# [01:02] <bnicholson> philor: how do i know which bug# corresponds to a given orange?
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# [01:03] <glosoli> Is it something like Mozilla is trying to ditch Firebug by adding more and more advanced tools of their own ?
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# [01:03] <philor> bnicholson: in the case of desktop, you usually just match them up to the suggested failure; mobile is a miserable pain in the ass
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# [01:04] <mcpherrin> glosoli: more like by including the basic tools, addon developers like firebug can do more and better things
# [01:04] <glosoli> mcpherrin: Well I know, but I am looking far more to the future
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# [01:06] <philor> bnicholson: for mobile, it looks like the phrases you'll need are "reconnecting socket", "process killed by signal 9" and "process killed by signal 15"
# [01:06] <@gavin> we should get rid of signal 9 and signal 15
# [01:06] <@gavin> those guys cause nothing but trouble
# [01:08] <philor> if you get rid of everything that kills people, you wind up with a world jam-packed with shambling zombie oldsters
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# [01:09] <imelven> philor: lookin mighty green
# [01:10] <bnicholson> philor: where'd those phrases come from?
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# [01:11] <bnicholson> oh there's the 15
# [01:11] <imelven> philor: (so far)
# [01:11] <philor> bnicholson: from the logs, and from my memory of having starred literally tens of thousands of mobile failures over the last 11.5 months
# [01:11] <philor> imelven: yep, I'm beaming
# [01:11] <bnicholson> philor: hm, why stop now? sounds like you're good at it! :-P
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# [01:16] <RyanVM> soo....just keep retriggering Android builds until they manage to go through?
# [01:16] <@khuey> dbaron: ping
# [01:16] <@dbaron> khuey, pong
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# [01:17] <@khuey> dbaron: does NotifyDidPaintForSubtree get called before the document has loaded?
# [01:17] <@dbaron> khuey, never heard of it
# [01:17] <@khuey> heh, ok
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# [01:18] <@khuey> dbaron: a slightly different question, is there a good place for layout to tell another piece of code "I've painted something from this document"?
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# [01:19] <@dbaron> khuey, probably somewhere related to either display lists or layers, depending on your definition of "painted"
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# [01:20] <@dbaron> khuey, sounds like a Q for roc, tn, mattwoodrow
# [01:20] <@khuey> ok, thanks
# [01:20] <@smaug> WG9s: thanks for star'ing
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# [01:22] <tn> khuey, yes, it can get called before the load event
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# [01:22] <tn> khuey, that code would be the best place for that i would think
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# [01:22] <@smaug> jesup: ping
# [01:22] <@khuey> tn: join this conversation in #gfx?
# [01:24] <tn> khuey, looks like roc is around and i need to leave right now, so i'll leave you two
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# [01:31] <glosoli> which channel would be the most appropriate to talk about bugs ?
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# [01:33] <bnicholson> philor: how would you star this one? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14534914&tree=Mozilla-Beta
# [01:34] <philor> bnicholson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=su%3Anscacheentryhash sw%3Aorange
# [01:34] <philor> only with a %20 in there to keep the whole URL together :)
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# [01:36] <bnicholson> thanks
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# [01:41] <@smaug> Why do we have so many bugs for "Reftest http://mochi.test:8888/tests/layout/base/tests/bug597519-1.html FAILED"
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# [01:42] <@smaug> er, no
# [01:43] <@smaug> or, yes, exactly the same stuff
# [01:43] <philor> no, not the same stuff, it's one of those tests that runs a dozen tests through a single filename
# [01:43] <philor> yours is down toward the bottom
# [01:43] <@smaug> bah
# [01:43] <philor> bolded, but the bold is hard to see
# [01:43] <@smaug> the bug summary shouldn't be the same
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# [01:46] <philor> well, you would only get it as a suggestion if the bug summary includes test_reftests_with_caret.html, since that's the filename, and you could only tell which one it was if the bug summary includes the actual bugnnnnnn-m.html filename
# [01:46] <nthomas> philor: we've fixed up the idle slaves doing the android builds, based on a manual verification, but jobs that already running will still fail. There are jobs started on the tip of inbound after the fix got deployed
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# [01:47] <philor> could have cut out the middle part, it doesn't do a thing for me, but it does make the summary exactly match the failure message
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# [01:47] <philor> nthomas: thanks - I'm guessing from runtime that my set on armv6 and debug are planning to succeed, but more won't hurt
# [01:48] <nthomas> possibly, I retriggered to get a jump if the timing was dodgy
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# [01:48] <philor> and an opt apparently made it to sendchange
# [01:48] <nthomas> we only got through rebooting idle slaves at 22 past the hour
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# [01:49] <NeilAway> bbondy: I thought that only worked at startup. I want to edit my chrome without restarting, like I used to be able to do :-(
# [01:49] <philor> come on, linux32 debug, daddy wants his m1
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# [01:52] <bdahl> in a mochitest what does the asserts part of "asserts(4-7) load 590302-1.xhtml" do?
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# [01:53] <philor> says that it's okay to have assertion failures 4, 5, 6 or 7 times, but a failure to assert 3 or 8 times
# [01:53] <philor> but that's a crashtest
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# [01:57] <bdahl> philor: so it's loading the file multiple times?
# [01:57] <dholbert> bdahl, it only loads it once
# [01:58] <dholbert> bdahl, which may trigger any number of assertions
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# [01:58] <dholbert> bdahl, and 4-7 assertions are what we expect right now
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# [01:59] <jesup> smaug: pong
# [01:59] <@dbaron> did something totally break the ability of depend builds to not rebuild lots of things recently?
# [02:00] <@dbaron> as in, why am I rebuilding the world as a result of touching nsXBLPrototypeHandler.cpp ?
# [02:00] <@smaug> jesup: just curious about webrtc and its microphone handling
# [02:00] <@smaug> what is the status?
# [02:01] <jesup> smaug: what about the handling? It's all leveraged through the media/webrtc/trunk code, which at the bottom uses os-specific interfaces (like DirectX/etc) to access hardware
# [02:02] <@khuey> dbaron: are you rebuilding the world as a result of touching nothing at all?
# [02:02] <@dbaron> khuey, one .cpp file
# [02:02] <@smaug> jesup: I guess I mean is there some code in m-c which could be used for reading data from microphone
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# [02:03] <philor> ah, the worst of all possible times to reopen
# [02:03] <philor> trees are OPEN
# [02:03] <jesup> smaug: yes, in media/webrtc/trunk/src/blah (I can dig out the exact files)
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# [02:04] <@smaug> jesup: no need to
# [02:04] <@smaug> but ok, thanks
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# [02:05] <jesup> There are many files there - take popcorn to find your way back ;-)
# [02:07] <jesup> smaug: look in subdirs of media/webrtc/trunk/src/modules/audio_device/main/source
# [02:08] <@khuey> dbaron: interesting
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# [02:08] <@khuey> dbaron: I saw something similar on mccr8's machine
# [02:08] <@khuey> but I blew away his objdir
# [02:08] <@dbaron> khuey, I wonder if it's related to system NSS being upgraded... even if I'm not using system NSS.,
# [02:08] <mccr8> my objdir was only one day from retirement!
# [02:08] <mccr8> I'm on OSX, so I don't think system NSS is a factor
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# [02:11] <@khuey> dbaron: on a different note
# [02:11] <@khuey> dbaron: my replacement for nsImageLoader doesn't deliver notifications to frames before the document is painted
# [02:11] <@khuey> dbaron: but the way it determines if the document is painted has some flaws
# [02:12] <@dbaron> ♪
# [02:12] <@khuey> dbaron: roc thinks I should drop this optimization entirely, since invalidations on frames that haven't painted would be cheap
# [02:13] <@dbaron> khuey, I think you should listen to roc, then. I don't remember anything about this optimization.
# [02:13] <@khuey> heh, ok
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# [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2127be51a12e - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 782871 (part 2) - Rename the |TreeContext| module as |SharedContext|. r=jorendorff.
# [02:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9971bdf03cbb - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 782871 (part 1 ) - Move TreeContext and related things into the Parser module. r=jorendorff.
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# [02:18] <@khuey> dbaron: why did you CC me to 783073?
# [02:18] <@dbaron> khuey, thought you might be interested or know something
# [02:18] <@khuey> ok
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# [02:20] <@roc> why are the NS_ASSERTION stacks on Linux and Linux64 debug broken?
# [02:20] <@roc> on tindebox
# [02:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55b7ad1fd651 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 776077 - Silence hundreds of conversion errors in cairo; r=jmuizelaar
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# [02:21] <gps> that commit removes about half of the compiler warnings in the tree
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# [02:21] <njn> gps: woo
# [02:21] <abhinav> hey
# [02:21] <@khuey> roc: because of 755781
# [02:21] <njn> gps: you are doing god's work
# [02:21] <@khuey> roc: and they're broken on all platforms
# [02:22] <abhinav> can someone tell me how to make changes to javascript code of a page ?
# [02:22] <njn> gps: does that affect GCC at all, or is it just clang?
# [02:22] <gps> I am down to 318 compiler warnings when building browser on OS X with Clang
# [02:22] <gps> njn: it should affect GCC
# [02:22] <gps> only a few months ago we were above 2000, I believe
# [02:22] <njn> gps: nice
# [02:23] <gps> espindola fixed most of them by adding an env var to ccache
# [02:23] <njn> gps: -Winitialized is the big pain, in my experience
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# [02:23] <froydnj> gps++
# [02:23] <gps> well, there are plenty of warnings that are just silenced
# [02:23] <gps> that's cheating IMO, but good enough for me :)
# [02:24] <WG9s> abhinav: that would be by using this extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/
# [02:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68f2ac456dbc - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 783663 - Add ReadScreenIntoImageSurface for reading pixels from the screen - r=bgirard
# [02:25] <abhinav> WG9s: thanks
# [02:26] <WG9s> abhinav: now i have never used this extension, so come back to me with questions about how to do it. ;-) I just know this is the extension you need to use.
# [02:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/657b3f3a616b - Kyle Huey - Bug 783379: Remove unnecessary (wrong) optimization of image decoding notifications. r=roc
# [02:26] <@roc> khuey: thanks
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# [02:27] <abhinav> WG9s: sure :D
# [02:27] <WG9s> abhinav: hmm mistyped there was trying to say don't come back to me with questions. oh well.
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# [02:27] <abhinav> WG9s: i got that :D
# [02:28] <@khuey> roc: thank you
# [02:28] <@khuey> it's my regression after all ;-)
# [02:29] <@roc> no, thanks for the pointer to the debug symbols bug
# [02:29] <@khuey> heh
# [02:29] <@khuey> so, to work around that
# [02:30] <@khuey> can you make your assertion fatal?
# [02:30] <@khuey> a crash will trigger a stack
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# [02:31] <WG9s> khuey: Do i need to say it??? Assertions should be fatal!
# [02:31] <@roc> hmm
# [02:31] <@roc> that'll work I guess
# [02:32] <@roc> also, if I were to download the tinderbox build myself, along with the symbols, I could probably map the address to a line number, right?
# [02:32] <@khuey> maybe
# [02:32] <@khuey> I think that tinderbox might eat some of the information necessary
# [02:32] <@khuey> ted and I had this conversation a few weeks ago
# [02:32] <@khuey> I don't remember the outcome
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# [02:33] <@roc> I'll go with the fatal assertion, it's easier
# [02:33] <@roc> thanks again
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# [02:41] <espindola> njn, -Wuninitialized on gcc, right?
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# [02:42] <espindola> the clang one should be pretty good
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# [02:48] <njn> espindola: my experience is with GCC, yes. I didn't know the clang one was better, interesting
# [02:49] <espindola> njn, it doesn't use the optimizer :-)
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# [02:51] <RyanVM> gps: bonus points if you clean up the windows warnings next :P
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# [02:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e86c64641778 - Michael Comella - Bug 780486: Corrected about:home draw order. r=sriram
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# [03:03] <@gavin> hrm, I'm seeing a lot of unnecessary rebuilds too
# [03:04] <@gavin> touching/rebuilding only chrome in browser/, and AboutRedirector.cpp keeps being rebuilt
# [03:04] <WG9s> gavin: i think I see more bebuilds if i use pymake
# [03:05] <WG9s> rebuilds
# [03:05] <@gavin> I'm on Mac
# [03:05] <WG9s> OH
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# [03:07] <WG9s> reason i said that is that to pick up the fix for bug 783709 i rebuilt my personal builds and the Linux ones just redid the packaging yet the windows one the used pymake took well over an hour to complete uselessly recompiling multiple modules.
# [03:08] <WG9s> this was yesterday
# [03:08] <WG9s> today obviously bug 783709 had already landed.
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# [03:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b691cd9c10dd - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 784203: Firefox logo left uncropped on about:home on tablets. [r=mfinkle] [a=mfinkle]
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# [03:28] <@gavin> khuey: I am seeing things rebuilding without touching anything
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# [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e952e6793ae - Nick Desaulniers - Bug 781379: getNotInstalled should be under mgmt and return apps from all origins; r=felipe
# [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88d36d74c414 - Paul Adenot - Bug 774581: Send event when starting/stopping audio or video recording; r=anant,mhabicher
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# [03:29] <mattwoodrow> gavin: try make -d to see why they are rebuilding?
# [03:29] <mattwoodrow> I'm seeing the same thing
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# [03:30] <mattwoodrow> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1767679
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# [03:33] <@gavin> I see something similar: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1767694
# [03:34] <@gavin> I don't really understand that output, though
# [03:34] <@gavin> is it saying that the FORCE thing is what's causing the rebuild?
# [03:34] <@gavin> "File `FORCE' does not exist."?
# [03:34] <mattwoodrow> I *think* so, all the other dependencies seem fine
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# [03:35] <@gavin> paging build gurus...
# [03:35] <@gavin> bah, who let khuey|away run away
# [03:35] <@gavin> glandium: ?
# [03:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e85a6a1c8b70 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 784179: Wrong thread assertion in GetPairedDevicePropertiesInternal; r=gwagner
# [03:35] <@gavin> gps: ?
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# [04:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23870683fcc2 - Jared Wein - Bug 779360 - Implement mozSocial.isVisible API for social sidebar window, r=felipe
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# [04:18] <RyanVM> who killed tbpl this time?
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# [04:19] <@dolske> Dammit kenny! you killed tbpl! You bastard!
# [04:19] <nthomas> db issues again
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# [04:21] <Callek> sheeri: still around? (doubtful at 10p)
# [04:21] <sheeri> I am
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# [04:21] <Callek> ahhh ^^
# [04:22] <sheeri> generic2 looks fine, is the thing :(
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# [04:22] <sheeri> but our monitoring did have a problem
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# [04:22] <sheeri> but it just recovered
# [04:22] <sheeri> I'm checkingn error logs
# [04:23] <bjacob> lsblakk: sorry for the failed attempt at fun. approval-esr10? in bug 777028
# [04:23] <sheeri> hrm, nothing interesting htere
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# [04:23] <lsblakk> bjacob: i thought it might be a joke...but had to make sure :)
# [04:24] <bjacob> lsblakk: i dont actually think that geocities and geriatrics.org are the only sites visited by esr10 users
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# [04:27] <@dolske> they also visit c:\, mostly by accident
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# [04:27] <bjacob> dolske: +1
# [04:28] <bjacob> dolske: they accidentally type 'dir' instead of google
# [04:28] <@dolske> unsubscribe
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# [04:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d656e6d3d996 - L. David Baron - Accept unitless lengths in quirks mode for bottom, just as for left/top/right. (Bug 776591) r=bzbarsky
# [04:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/198f6c4784cb - L. David Baron - Track whether nsStyleVisibility::mLanguage came from explicit information in the document. (Bug 702121, patch 1) r=jfkthame
# [04:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb1c9884c07e - L. David Baron - Back out nsXBLPrototypeHandler changes from changeset d09b4e60bb09 to fix bug 776075.
# [04:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b300b474c35e - L. David Baron - Add missing SkipUntil call in @supports parsing. (Bug 782401) r=heycam
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# [04:55] <edwin> Anybody seen this error before? http://hastebin.com/gecewufolo.rb
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# [04:57] <edwin> I suspect I've just done something stupid in my Makefile.in
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# [05:20] <philor> michal: I'm a little suspicious of that leak that includes a nsCacheEntryDescriptor, on the push right after you touched nsCacheEntryDescriptor
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# [05:32] <philor> ohttps://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a520740b0f4e
# [05:32] <philor> sigh
# [05:32] <philor> or https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a520740b0f4e if you prefer usable links
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# [05:35] <philor> perhaps, if your try push includes two unknown leaks which entrain the very thing you are touching, it does not "look good," just possibly
# [05:35] * @smaug doesn't know the context but agrees with philor
# [05:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba7652be9d09 - Chris Double - Bug 782508 - Enable hardware decoder usage in Android libstagefright OMX plugin - r=cpeterson
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# [05:37] <philor> and back from the forgotten depths of this morning's explosion, there's the test_domstorage_aboutpages.js and test_telemetry.js failures again
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# [05:38] <@smaug> how odd. I'm offline for few hours and my review queue is still empty
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# [05:45] <Callek> philor: FYI, new tegras coming online --- into prod -- right now.
# [05:45] <Callek> first batch of 13 are being added on a mac foopy, but in the next hour I'll have some others in prod on linux foopies
# [05:46] <philor> so is there any connection between test_domstorage_aboutpages.js and test_telemetry.js? they've failed together three times now, should I file them as one thing?
# [05:46] <philor> Callek: whee, linux foopies!
# [05:46] <philor> I'm looking for oddness in things numbered, um, above 319?
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# [05:49] <@dbaron> philor, like 321 or 323? Or not that kind of oddness? :-)
# [05:49] <philor> heh
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# [05:49] <philor> "please disable tegra-321, its name includes an odd number"
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# [05:54] <philor> oh, what they have in common is touching telemetry
# [05:55] <philor> and who else touched telemetry, this morning?
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# [06:07] <Callek> philor: 290 is the first one of the new batch
# [06:07] <philor> thx
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# [06:08] <Callek> philor: though, just because I wanted to confuse you ( :-P ) I am bringing up tegra-248 --> 260 on a linux foopy
# [06:08] <Callek> so those are fodder for "acting strange"
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# [06:10] <philor> luckily, it's like telling a beat cop to be on the lookout for "any of the homeless people acting strangely," so I'll just panic about any tegra with three digits in the name
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# [06:11] <Callek> :-)
# [06:11] <Callek> I'm not *expecting* any strangeness beyond the normals
# [06:11] <Callek> but I wanted you to be aware that there was some change
# [06:13] <philor> the last time we got new tegras on new foopies, I wound up filing the honey badger bug, which is up to 400 comments (and, I think 3 different morphs, but you can't have everything)
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# [06:16] <Callek> which one is that?
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# [06:16] <philor> bug 711725 - it lost the honey badger summary, but my awesomebar still knows so that's how I still find it
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# [06:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3000e30d082c - David Zbarsky - Bug 784004 - Don't include Layers.h everywhere Part 3 r=nical
# [06:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2d18014b333 - David Zbarsky - Fix layer tree dumping code, no bug, r=cjones over irc
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# [06:19] <@dbaron> philor, there's a new xpcshell orange on my push, but it's cache-related... so not sure whether to file
# [06:19] <Callek> philor: would you bake me a cake if I (legitimately) resolved that honeybadger bug?
# [06:19] <@dbaron> philor, since it's between the landing and backout of the cache bug
# [06:21] <philor> dbaron: oops, I overlooked it on one of the domstorage_aboutpages/test_telemetry ones on the push before you, so it's certainly not you
# [06:23] <philor> no idea whether we can blame the cache patch for crashing on port 80000
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# [06:26] <philor> Callek: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-305 - I think they're going to fit right in
# [06:26] <Callek> f*ck already
# [06:26] <Callek> :/
# [06:26] <Callek> (though I admit 305 was the one that I had a gut feeling about already
# [06:26] <philor> just a 660480 on the post-run verify, no surprise
# [06:27] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14548286&tree=Mozilla-Inbound from 300 worries me more
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# [06:27] <philor> once you get over about 196 reftest failures...
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# [06:28] <@dbaron> philor, anyway, filed, but it's almost certainly what you already backed out since nsCacheEntry::Doom is in the stack
# [06:28] <philor> sweet, thx
# [06:28] <@dbaron> and crosslinked appropriately
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# [06:31] <philor> Callek: sure, I'd bake you one, but then I'd eat it instead of shipping it
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# [06:32] <Callek> philor: I once got a cake shipped to me from texas, from someone who lives in asia, for a holiday, and I live near BOS
# [06:32] <philor> and either 300, 302 and 294 can't run reftests, or none of the new ones can and those are the only ones who've tried so far
# [06:32] <Callek> philor: seriously ;-)
# [06:32] <Callek> can't run reftests?
# [06:32] * Callek looks
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# [06:33] <Callek> they were passing in staging
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# [06:35] <philor> or, I guess, someone might have picked an inopportune time to break them
# [06:35] <Callek> philor: I'm going to try and leave it up for the moment, can we try and identify if there is the same problem with pre-existing tegras
# [06:36] <Callek> as in, is it a cset issue
# [06:37] <philor> don't think so, r3 was bad on a b2g push when r1 passed, then r1 was bad on the next b2g push, but time will tell
# [06:37] <Callek> philor: these data urls look suspicious anyway
# [06:37] * Callek grumbles
# [06:38] <Callek> I'm seeing all these reftest: REFTEST INFO | Loading a blank page
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# [06:40] <philor> mmm, things-I'd-forgotten-all-about, we crash after every Android reftest run, and don't care
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# [06:50] <philor> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-290
# [06:51] <philor> not that I'm going to look on Try to see if the third one is a manual kill
# [06:51] <Callek> philor: yea, just looked at that (the recent list)
# [06:51] <philor> also? ohgod, either bholley or dzbarsky broke everything
# [06:52] <Callek> philor: 293 shows a good jsreftest ;-)
# [06:52] <philor> bholley: compartment mismatch
# [06:52] <philor> sigh, you already backed out
# [06:53] <Callek> philor: of course yea the rest of these look painful so far
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# [07:00] <Callek> philor: so yea, I'll peek back soon, but this looks bad at a glance: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-?numbuilds=2000
# [07:00] <Callek> (sort by tegra-NNN)
# [07:01] <philor> colorful down there at the end
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# [07:04] <philor> dunno what it means that the purple is disproportionately in the final verify.py
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# [07:05] <Callek> yea, not sure either, I'm *more* worried about the reftest issue(s)
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# [07:07] <Callek> philor: ooo possibly a good sign (for me) tegra-297 *passed* reftest-3 (xul) on try
# [07:08] <Callek> though none of the other new ones ran a green non-xul reftest, and nothing ran a non-try xul reftest
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# [07:13] <glob> anyone else on osx seeing high cpu on recent nightlies?
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# [07:14] <philor> glob: smaug and dolske, off the top of my head
# [07:14] <philor> though actually I'm not sure what OS smaug is using and fighting
# [07:14] <glob> philor, thanks, that's both good and bad news :)
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# [07:16] <philor> I'm pretty happy with the one I built Saturday morning, maybe I'll keep it
# [07:17] <glob> hrm, i'm also (like dolske) seeing high heap-unclassified (57% currently). something isn't healthy
# [07:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e45223cbd1c4 - Chris Pearce - Bug 779914 - Remove redundant reset of nsHTMLMediaElement::mAudioStream. r=kinetik.
# [07:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/028c2346c777 - Chris Pearce - Bug 779914 - Reset Mozilla Audio Data API in nsHTMLMediaElment::AbortExistingLoads(). r=doublec
# [07:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9f41d4aecb1 - Chris Pearce - Bug 783824 - Don't stash the presentation (discard it if it was stashed) when subdoc frames are destroyed if the presentation is being destroyed. r=roc
# [07:19] <Callek> philor: ooo try has an android-native reftest green ;-) (tegra-305)
# [07:20] <Callek> now to see if any of the orange ones goes green and/or a green on aurora/beta/trunk to help identify
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# [07:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3c8dd3b9ea4 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 784011 - Fix ParallelArray.prototype.get being called with an object with length 0 (r=dmandelin)
# [07:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d194a7d36e65 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 783923 - Fix calling toString on an empty ParallelArray (r=dmandelin)
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# [07:32] <@smaug> glob: I'm using Linux
# [07:32] <@smaug> glob: so https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783015 is one thing
# [07:32] <@smaug> but there is also something else happening
# [07:33] <@smaug> if I have several apptabs and restart FF, it takes 80% cpu even after loading the pages
# [07:33] <glob> smaug, thanks for the info
# [07:33] <@smaug> I'll try to debug that problem tomorrow
# [07:33] <glob> i generally get a few minutes out of FF before it starts ramping up cpu
# [07:34] <@smaug> hmm
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# [07:34] <glob> something changed in the last week (i had a week off, and it only started happening when i came back and updated nightly)
# [07:34] <@smaug> (heap-unclassified now at 61%) is horrible
# [07:34] <@smaug> there has been large changes
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# [07:35] <glob> is there anything i can do to assist you?
# [07:35] <@smaug> glob: since you're on OSX you could use the profiler to see what is taking CPU time
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# [07:35] <@smaug> (I can't use it since it doesn't work on linux)
# [07:36] <@smaug> BenWa can tell you more about the profiler
# [07:36] <@smaug> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
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# [07:36] <BenWa> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Reporting_a_Performance_Problem
# [07:36] <BenWa> That link is more friendly if you just want to get a profile and have someone else look at it
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# [07:37] <glob> sweet, thanks smaug and BenWa. if/when it ramps up again i'll point the profiler at it
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# [07:38] <BenWa> You can just install the extension and if something bad happens just dump it and file a bug
# [07:38] <BenWa> keeps a circular buffer so you can set it and forget it
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# [07:42] <gps> glandium: see gavin's notes from above re FORCE http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1767694
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# [07:43] <@gavin> (glandium: or http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1768023 , in case the previous pastebin expires by the time you read this)
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# [07:48] <Callek> philor|away: possibly bustage or random tegra-300 *now* has a green inbound android r3 green
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# [07:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa86bacc7e57 - L. David Baron - Move the imported css3-namespace test suite in with other test suites imported from the CSSWG repository, and make the importing script import it. (Bug 691950)
# [07:53] <glandium> gavin: the FORCE thing most probably comes from mddepend, which takes all the deps written in $dir/.deps/*.pp that are in the form target: dep1 dep2 ... , and checks if dep1 dep2... are newer than target, in which case it adds a target: FORCE rule (so that make doesn't have to do that work again)
# [07:54] <glandium> gavin: you can make -C $dir echo-variable-ALL_PP_RESULTS to see the rules mddepend generates
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# [07:55] <glandium> gavin: are you building on windows?
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# [08:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b64118688939 - L. David Baron - Fix reftest bustage from changeset aa86bacc7e57. (Bug 691950)
# [08:13] <philor> "tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive" is pretty nice bustage
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# [08:14] * Callek wodners if dbaron's reftest bustage fix explains the android reftest oranges we saw
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# [08:14] <philor> no
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# [08:14] <philor> nice try, though
# [08:14] <Callek> or if android reftest oranges were due to teh tar issue
# [08:14] <philor> no
# [08:14] <Callek> or if we "still don't know"
# [08:14] <philor> nice try, though
# [08:14] <@dbaron> it was a bustage fix for the immediately previous changeset
# [08:15] <@dbaron> sorry
# [08:15] <Callek> I'm fishing for explanations, so far I keep getting seaweed
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# [08:19] <philor> we're running fennec, on android, on tegras, that fell off the back of a truck, that's four layers of explanation
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# [08:20] <glob> for those playing at home, i've filed 784264 about the memory/heap-unclassified issues
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# [08:21] <@dbaron> philor, btw, the "Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive" is probably my bustage fix as well.
# [08:22] <philor> dbaron: yep, looked like it to me
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# [08:24] <Callek> philor: forgot the fact that we purposely broke off part of the logic board substrate, and stuffed the whole thing into styrofoam
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# [08:24] <Callek> ;-)
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# [08:24] <philor> that'd do it
# [08:24] * Callek wishes he were joking at that
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# [08:25] <philor> why are crashtests failing too?
# [08:25] <Callek> ummm crashes?
# [08:25] <philor> no, readmanifest hitting an empty file
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# [08:27] <philor> but I didn't think crashtests.list included layout/reftests/reftest.list, not that I've ever looked
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# [08:29] <Callek> that doesn't *sound* like my issue
# [08:29] <Callek> what tegra?
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# [08:29] <Callek> or is this not tegra?
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# [08:30] <philor> not tegra, this is dbaron rather than you
# [08:30] <Callek> oooo
# [08:30] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14551356&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is you, though
# [08:30] <@dbaron> philor, I presume because the test packaging failed
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# [08:32] <Callek> philor: then that same tegra had a green build |try_tegra_android_test-reftest-2|
# [08:32] <Callek> ooo no wait, the green was before that :/
# [08:32] * Callek wonders wtf is going on
# [08:33] <Callek> 5/8 fails on these new tegras
# [08:33] <Callek> (for reftest)
# [08:34] <Callek> philor: have there been *any* similar issues with "old" tegras yet?
# [08:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9a8fdb08193 - Eric Chou - Bug 784255 - [b2g-bluetooth] devicefound event does not come up correctly, r=qdot
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# [08:42] <Callek> booo
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# [09:56] <Callek> bsmedberg: if you didn't notice Raymond Chen wrote an article re: one of your Q's http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/08/20/10341464.aspx
# [09:57] * Callek *suspects* that was a Q relating to thoughts about exposing webAppRT to your users
# [09:57] <Callek> s/your/our/
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# [09:57] <glazou> bonjour
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# [10:01] <glob> Callek, heh, only took two years :)
# [10:01] <Callek> glob: ooo that was an answer from 2 years ago?
# [10:01] * Callek looks ago
# [10:01] <glob> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2010/07/20/10040074.aspx#10040417
# [10:01] <Callek> ooo wow
# [10:01] <glob> the answer's new, the question is not
# [10:01] <Callek> I totally misread the date on his Q asking
# [10:01] <glob> also, oldnewthing rocks
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# [10:02] <Callek> but yea, even if its a 2 years old Q, I'm happy for the answer
# [10:02] <Callek> (but means it likely wasn't asked re: WebRT)
# [10:02] <Callek> unless ben has awesome foresight
# [10:02] <glob> his "Tales of Application Compatibility" should be mandatory reading
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# [10:02] <Unfocused> appropriately named blog is appropriately named
# [10:03] <darktrojan> nah
# [10:03] <darktrojan> the new old thing would be better
# [10:03] <darktrojan> especially when they're talking about IE
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# [10:03] <Unfocused> heh
# [10:05] <darktrojan> what "IE 9.0.9 Available via Windows Update"
# [10:05] <darktrojan> I didn't think they had minor version numbers
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# [10:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/613bc459e292 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 782684 - charsetLoadListener needs no event argument. r=gavin
# [10:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62d00e115522 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 783614 - Cutting a sub string from the location bar value can unexpectedly modify the value further. r=Unfocused
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# [10:25] <glandium> Callek: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/08/17/10340743.aspx is more or less the same thing, too
# [10:26] <Callek> glandium: yea, Raymond tends to queue up a bunch of questions, usually ones he hasn't answered before, on a single topic
# [10:26] <Callek> and spend a few days/week on that topic
# [10:26] <Callek> looks like this week is the taskbar groupings
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# [10:30] <glandium> edmorley: on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=something pages, is there a particular reason why email address links point to https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=something&pusher=foo instead of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&pusher=foo ?
# [10:31] <edmorley> glandium: guess we could change that
# [10:31] <edmorley> there may be a bug filed already
# [10:32] <edmorley> bug 672798
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# [10:32] <edmorley> ah comment 1 means it's not as straightforwards
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# [10:34] <edmorley> oh and philor's bug 673981 comment 1
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# [10:37] <edmorley> glandium: for now, you can downarrow whilst in &rev=foo&pusher=bar mode
# [10:39] <glandium> edmorley: that only works if the rev=foo is the last you pushed
# [10:39] <glandium> s/you/bar/
# [10:40] <edmorley> well yes
# [10:40] <edmorley> patches welcome :-)
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# [11:01] <gaston> ted: thx for the pager/color mercurial tips, they all work perfectly with hg 2.2.2 on openbsd
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# [11:19] <glandium> ted: btw, your blog ate my comment
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# [11:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1e67b8915a0 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 782993 - Part 1: Always sweep background things at the end r=billm
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# [11:41] <Ms2ger> gaston, you have hg 2.2.2? I'd assumed something like 1.3 ;)
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# [11:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17ec4e01c126 - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 767480 - PlanarYCbCrImage refactoring. r=roc
# [11:46] <NeilAway> eek
# [11:46] <NeilAway> good thing our hgweb cache servers don't corrupt UTF8 any more
# [11:47] <gaston> Ms2ger: as i already said, we're often bleeding edge on stuff from ports, stuff from the basesys if often from last millenium :p
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# [11:52] <Ms2ger> Woops, I made this test allocate 12GB of memory
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# [11:53] <edmorley> Ms2ger: got bored of OOMing tegras, moved on to the rest of the testpool now, have we? :-)
# [11:53] <edmorley> (and good morning :-))
# [11:53] <Ms2ger> Good morning :)
# [11:54] <Ms2ger> No, my laptop
# [11:54] <Ms2ger> Only my system monitor didn't see any more memory use
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# [11:58] <glandium> edmorley: do you know why windows builds take so long to stop when they're cancelled with self-serve?
# [11:59] <Ms2ger> Aaand backout
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# [11:59] <Ms2ger> kanru, are you doing the backout?
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# [12:05] <Standard8> glandium: edmorley: its something to do with the kill function not really working on Windows
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# [12:05] <glandium> Standard8: that's very unfortunate
# [12:05] <Standard8> when you try and kill the build process it doesn't always work iirc
# [12:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bf66490dfad - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Back out c8f7bace9cf9, 17ec4e01c126 (bug 767480) r=bustage
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# [12:06] <glandium> Standard8: because it makes the windows builder load even worse
# [12:06] <Ms2ger> kanru, thanks
# [12:06] <Standard8> glandium: yep, been like it for ages afaik
# [12:06] <edmorley> glandium: sorry was making a cup of tea (cliche much), but yeah it's not ideal
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# [12:08] <glandium> case of the day: using nsinstall before it's built
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# [12:17] <glandium> maybe because i cancelled before it even reached the build step
# [12:18] <Standard8> yeah, if you hit it in the pull steps, it generally works
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# [12:34] <edmorley> btw anyone waiting for the next merge, I'm seeing if retriggers can help confirm the cause of bug 784247 first
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# [12:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94f6e5a00d8b - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 767480 - Gralloc backed video buffer. r=roc
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# [13:18] <grubshka> Anybody knows why jsIDebugger's "functionHook" works in Firefox browser windows but not on other windows (preferences...) ?
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# [13:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/788a128c8ea5 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 779687 - Add detection for ARMv7 CPUs. r=dougt
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# [13:44] <@ted> glandium: it's moderated
# [13:46] <AryehGregor> khuey|away, I'm a lot less active for the time being in Mozilla stuff, so e-mail is a better bet than IRC. https://plus.google.com/100662365103380396132/posts/KyADU8K54uK
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# [14:32] <jhorak> When calling native function from javascript, js function silently ends, no prompt to error console or terminal (with debug build). Dump(function) shows function body with [native]. What's most likely wrong?
# [14:32] <jhorak> Setting breakpoint to native function doesn't help, it seems to be never called.
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# [14:36] <Standard8> jhorak: tried a try/catch ?
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# [14:37] <jhorak> nope, will do
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# [14:38] <jhorak> hm, also no output.
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# [14:41] <Yoric> jhorak: What native function is that?
# [14:41] <Yoric> One of yours?
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# [14:42] <jhorak> Yoric: nope, nsLDAPService::CreateFilter
# [14:42] <jhorak> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/ldap/xpcom/src/nsLDAPService.cpp#755
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# [14:43] <Yoric> jhorak: And this couldn't be that it has just returned NS_OK?
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# [14:44] <jhorak> Yoric: I've got dump() call right after calling createFilter and it's never called.
# [14:45] <Yoric> That's weird indeed.
# [14:45] <Yoric> No idea atm, sorry.
# [14:46] <jhorak> Ah, sorry guys, try/catche actually worked. Thanks a lot.
# [14:46] <jhorak> Standard8, Yoric : ^
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# [14:59] <glandium> it's really painful to write a protocol handler
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# [15:03] <gaston> kinetik: does cubeb also overrides nsSound.cpp ?
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# [15:04] <gaston> (ie implements the ui/system sounds)
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# [15:07] <NeilAway> whoa, browser just quit on me :s
# [15:10] <sheppy> Damn browsers. Someone should make one that doesn't suck.
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# [15:12] <Yoric> glandium: Indeed, it is.
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# [15:20] <gaston> is playEventSound/nsSound somewhat unused/abandoned ? mxronly yields two callers
# [15:20] <gaston> i don't really see how i could test/trigger it
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# [15:31] <NeilAway> gaston: I can never remember whether we're supposed to use playEventSound or playSystemSound
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# [15:32] <gaston> i only wonder if doing 'alert("foo")' in the webconsole is supposed to play a sound if libcanberra-gtk & sound-theme-freedesktop is installed (w/ gtk2 widget of course)
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# [15:52] <gfritzsche> hm, any shortcut to retrigger specific tests on try multiple times?
# [15:52] <gfritzsche> the rebuild button is quite cumbersome
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# [15:54] <jimm> bsmedberg: so if we can change the app id, we could use different app ids to get both browsers running along side each other without bug 755724. Not sure it's worth the trouble though assuming that work fiishes up in the next month or so.
# [15:55] <@bsmedberg> jimm: you mean with entirely separate installs?
# [15:55] <@bsmedberg> that sounds fine to me as a temporary measure
# [15:55] <@bsmedberg> obviously we want it to be one install when we ship it finally, right?
# [15:55] <@bsmedberg> s/obviously//
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# [15:56] <mbrubeck> gfritzsche: nope; fastest way is to go to TBPL and clickclickclickclickclick (unless you write your own tool that calls the buildbot API directly...)
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# [15:56] <jimm> bsmedberg: I was thinking of a combined install with resources all mixed in together. I had a patch put together that did this by tagging each resource with the app id of the browser that wanted to consume it.
# [15:56] <@bsmedberg> oh
# [15:57] <@bsmedberg> I really don't like that patch, though :-(
# [15:57] <jimm> yeah it was messy :)
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# [15:57] <@bsmedberg> I don't know...
# [15:57] <@bsmedberg> we should probably ask gavin to help decide that, then
# [15:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a295ff4319fb - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 773749 - Add Jelly Bean support to AccessFu. r=davidb
# [15:57] <jimm> I'm fine with waiting and doing it right. we might miss our q3 goal though.
# [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d4cb05fb97f - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 781987 - Use accessibility helper class name instead of LayerView for pre-JB accessibility events. r=mbrubeck
# [15:57] <jimm> ok
# [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaadec548e0b - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 784162 - Add "touches" field to accessfu gesture events in Android. r=marcoz
# [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e0e57eb237a - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 777560 - Add Jelly Bean accessibility features to Java layer. r=mbrubeck
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# [15:58] <gfritzsche> mbrubeck: ah, nice workaround, thanks :D
# [15:58] <@bsmedberg> joshmoz: can I get a quick review on bug 700583? I think we'll want to push it up the trains some
# [15:59] <glandium> jimm: i should be able to have 780561 in a useful place soon(ish), fwiw
# [15:59] <jimm> glandium: awesome!
# [16:00] <glandium> jimm: although, i'm doing that on spare time, so take it with caution
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# [16:01] <jimm> glandium: yeah I know, Asa told us people involved have big back logs of work.
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# [16:02] <jimm> glandium: appreciate the spare time work you're putting in. :)
# [16:02] <glandium> jimm: it's been itching for too long
# [16:03] <jimm> I've heard that if you stare at that perl script funny it breaks.
# [16:03] <Ms2ger> jimm, you know people here who don't have big backlogs? :)
# [16:03] <jimm> Ms2ger: true true
# [16:04] <smontagu> does http://www.mozilla.org say "bad httpd conf" for everyone or just me?
# [16:04] <@bsmedberg> smontagu: WFM
# [16:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/caeb23f6d957 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 783103 - Avoid layout flush from isElementVisible when attempting to focus the URL bar or search bar. r=enn
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# [16:12] <glandium> i love how many different ways there are to crash firefox when doing nsIProtocolHandler/nsIChannel in javascript
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# [16:16] <glazou> dougt: ping
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# [16:18] <glandium> erf, i'm doing too much python... i wrote "self" instead of "this"
# [16:18] <glandium> in js
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# [16:18] <Pike> and then there's "that" for js fixture love :-(
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# [16:19] <glandium> now it stopped crashing :)
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# [16:20] <sheppy> python ≠ js
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# [16:22] <gcp> http://pastebin.com/yiNT96FY
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# [16:22] <espindola> rail, ping
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# [16:23] <espindola> !seen rail
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# [16:24] <rail> espindola: pong
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# [16:25] <espindola> rail, do we have any documentation on how we do spidermonkey builds?
# [16:25] <espindola> for bug 783740
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# [16:28] <glandium> it would be nice if nsDocShell::DisplayLoadError could display arbitrary errors
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# [16:29] <glandium> it's mostly able to, for nss errors...
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# [16:29] <rail> espindola: not sure, bhearsum?
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# [16:34] <jesup> If I need an Timer in non-mainthread code, what should I use? nsITimer says to only init from the main thread, and it seems silly to post an event (and deal with a bunch of races) just to start a timer. Or are the docs in the idl file wrong?
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# [16:44] <jesup> Hmmm, maybe I should ask later
# [16:45] <gfritzsche> what bugzilla product/component covers the self-serve build api?
# [16:46] <jesup> Also, is there a way to test if a timer is running? There doesn't seem to be for nsITimer - 'delay' might get set to 0 after a one-shot fires, but it's really not stated.
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# [16:46] <glob> gfritzsche, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&component=Release%20Engineering%3A%20Developer%20Tools
# [16:46] <glob> gfritzsche, you should use the search box on enter_bug :)
# [16:46] <gfritzsche> glob: thanks
# [16:47] <gfritzsche> glob: i tried to find it, but i obviously failed in this case :)
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# [16:47] <glob> gfritzsche, :)
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# [16:51] <andreasn> I have some Mountain Lion issues. I have XCode 4.4 and I added "CC=clang" and "CXX=clang++" to my mozconfig
# [16:52] <andreasn> but it still complains about a missing gcc
# [16:52] <andreasn> claiming gcc can't create executables
# [16:53] <Standard8> andreasn: bwinton or irving may be able to help you
# [16:53] <joshmoz> andreasn: Go into the Xcode preferences, then to Preferences->Downloads
# [16:53] <joshmoz> andreasn: install "Command Line Tools"
# [16:53] <joshmoz> then you'll have it
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# [16:54] <joshmoz> Xcode no longer install all of the command line tools by default, they are an optional package installable from the preferences
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# [16:55] <ebassi> do they use llvm as a service library in xcode?
# [16:55] <andreasn> joshmoz, yup, installed those
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# [16:55] <joshmoz> andreasn, what happens when you type "which clang" in terminal?
# [16:56] <andreasn> /usr/bin/clang
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# [16:57] <Pike> andreasn: did you clear you config.status or .cache? Or check that the new compilers are actually picked up there?
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# [16:58] <andreasn> Pike, how do I do that?
# [16:58] <Pike> grep CC config.*
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# [16:58] <Pike> or just rm them and make -f client.mk configure
# [16:58] <andreasn> all config.*?
# [16:59] <Pike> andreasn: yeah, in your build dir
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# [17:02] <jprmc> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563637
# [17:02] <joshmoz> andreasn, I don't have further advice, try what Pike is suggesting
# [17:02] <andreasn> trying a clean checkout as well now
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# [17:04] <@ehsan> mounir: ping
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# [17:06] <mounir> ehsan: pong
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# [17:07] <@ehsan> mounir: hey, do you remember why bug 563637 never landed?
# [17:07] <@ehsan> I'm unbitrotting it right now
# [17:07] <@ehsan> and I wanna know if I need to watch for something
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# [17:08] <@ehsan> mounir: also, have you pushed this to the try server, or should I do that before landing?
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# [17:09] <mounir> ehsan: why do people care that much about that bug? :
# [17:09] <mounir> ehsan: I probably have a newer version in my patch queue
# [17:10] <mounir> ehsan: check https://hg.mozilla.org/users/mlamouri_mozilla.com/html5forms-patchqueue/file/cb56a4d18d90
# [17:10] <@ehsan> mounir: jprmc asked me to try to land it
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# [17:10] <@ehsan> mounir: which ones of those patches need to land for this bug?
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# [17:10] <jprmc> mounir: i care because it seems to be at the root of blocking input elements moving forward
# [17:11] <andreasn> joshmoz, Pike, I think I got it working now. Thanks!
# [17:11] <jprmc> which i care about, because despite being imperfect, html5test.com gets used a lot both in media and by potential OEMs
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# [17:12] <mfinkle> mounir, yeah... we need to get the input type="date" stuff moving again too
# [17:12] <glandium> do we have chrome javascript debugging available nowadays?
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# [17:12] <mfinkle> glandium, not yet
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# [17:13] <glandium> :(
# [17:13] <glandium> Services.console.logStringMessage debugging it is, then
# [17:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88def2d79ce8 - Irving Reid - Bug 782471: Add library name to ctypes Library::Create() error message for easier debugging; r=bholley
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# [17:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fa2e09c092e - Javi Rueda - Bug 503761 - 'Remember passwords' check box is broken when no history - in Private Browsing mode or when Firefox set to never remember any history; r=ehsan
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# [17:16] <andreasn> is this a cache issue too? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1768783
# [17:17] <mounir> jprmc, ehsan, mfinkle: I don't need that blocks new input types
# [17:17] <mounir> and some new input types are actually coming
# [17:17] <mounir> like 'time' and 'date'
# [17:17] <@ehsan> mounir: so, should I not try to land that bug?
# [17:17] <mounir> in the process of adding an input type, handling all those "attribute applies" is probably a minor part of the work
# [17:18] <mounir> ehsan: if you have time to dedicate to that, sure
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# [17:18] <@ehsan> mounir: hrm, ok, I'll give that a shot anyways
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# [17:18] <edmorley> jprmc: has someone contacted html5test.com to ask that they add nightly to the development section on the "other browsers" tab?
# [17:18] <jprmc> edmorley: i have not
# [17:18] <mounir> ehsan: but use the version from my patch queue and ideally, ask me to review so I can have a look before it lands
# [17:19] <jprmc> they use github issues
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# [17:19] <mounir> ehsan: and regarding try, I have no idea if that went there ;)
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# [17:19] <mounir> likely, back in the days, but that was more than a year ago
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# [17:19] <@ehsan> mounir: I will, since there seems to be some substantial changes in the code :/
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# [17:20] <KaiRo> joshmoz: any chance to get to the bug 700583 review soon? (I'd love to see this in mobile 15, but that may be too late anyhow, given that the final beta goes to build today)
# [17:21] <mounir> ehsan: maybe 2 or 3 patches in the queue should land before
# [17:21] <@ehsan> mounir: jprmc: actually, looking a bit deeper into this, it seems like there have been major changes to this code...
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# [17:21] <@ehsan> mounir: jprmc: I have no idea what exactly needs to change on m-c now
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# [17:22] <@ehsan> so maybe I'm not the best person to look into this...
# [17:22] <mounir> ehsan, jprmc: I will work on that as soon as I'm no longer assigned to critical b2g bugs
# [17:23] <mounir> jprmc: are we planning to put people on input types?
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# [17:27] <@gavin> glandium: no, mac
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# [17:27] <glandium> gavin: mmmmm can you try the echo-variable i mentioned?
# [17:28] <@gavin> glandium: [gavin@gavin-mbp:~/mozilla/mozilla-central]$ make -C obj-ff-opt/browser/components/about/ echo-variable-ALL_PP_RESULTS
# [17:28] <@gavin> AboutRedirector.o: FORCE
# [17:28] <jprmc> mounir: keep going in circles :-) i totally understand your prioritization, so i've been trying to move it ahead without you, but it keeps ending up back at you
# [17:28] <glandium> gavin: what does obj-ff-opt/browser/components/about/.deps/AboutRedirector.o.pp contain?
# [17:28] <jprmc> mounir: i would definitely like to, but even some non-ui needing parts like input=number
# [17:28] <jprmc> seem to depend on this bug
# [17:29] <@gavin> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1768789
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# [17:31] <gaston> for debugging purpse can i directly call the code from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/prompts/src/CommonDialog.jsm#176 in the web console ? is there a way to do so with a bit of js ?
# [17:31] <mounir> jprmc: input type=number has landed
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# [17:31] <mounir> but without the UI, is enabled only on mobile and b2g
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# [17:33] <mounir> there is one patch left to have type=date too
# [17:33] <gaston> i'd like to directly call nsISound to try it without having to add debug code
# [17:33] <marshall_law> bbondy: ping
# [17:33] <bbondy> marshall_law: hey, so what did you want to know about update-settings.ini
# [17:34] <glandium> gavin: try this: change DEBUG to 1 in build/unix/mddepend.pl; cd obj-ff-opt/browser/components/about/; ../../../../build/unix/mddepend.pl - .deps/AboutRedirector.o.pp
# [17:34] <marshall_law> bbondy: well, for Fx I just see ACCEPTED_MAR_CHANNEL_IDS, is that all I care about?
# [17:34] <@gavin> glandium: no output
# [17:35] <Ms2ger> edmorley, fwiw, the html5test guy isn't responsive
# [17:35] <glandium> gaston: Cc["@mozilla.org/sound;1"].createInstance(Ci.nsISound).playEventSound(Ci.nsISound.EVENT_SELECT_DIALOG_OPEN);
# [17:36] <@gavin> (and no change to AboutRedirector.o.pp)
# [17:36] <glandium> gavin: O_o
# [17:36] <bbondy> ya that's all that ends up there, but you don't put it there directly, you should define 2 things in your default mozconfig options. 1) MAR_CHANNEL_ID should be defined as a string that gets encoded into the MAR. It should contain an identifier that identifies the branch and product. 2) ACCEPTED_MAR_CHANNEL_IDS is a comma separated list of MAR ids. This defines what type of MARs you can consume.
# [17:36] <gaston> glandium: thanks a lot.. is that on mdn somewhere ?
# [17:36] <bbondy> so usually you define both 1) and 2) to be the same thing
# [17:36] <glandium> gavin: is there a AboutRedirector.pp file?
# [17:36] <glandium> gaston: don't know
# [17:37] <@gavin> glandium: no
# [17:37] <glandium> gavin: mmmm what about ../../../../build/unix/mddepend.pl - .deps/* ?
# [17:37] <marshall_law> bbondy: hrm ok
# [17:37] <@gavin> glandium: Couldn't stat ../../../dist/include/nsNetError.h for AboutRedirector.o
# [17:37] <gaston> meh [17:27:17.317] ReferenceError: Cc is not defined
# [17:37] <@gavin> AboutRedirector.o: FORCE
# [17:37] <gaston> so Cc is a shortcut for components.class...
# [17:37] <bbondy> marshall_law: for example you may define both to be b2g-mozilla-release. If you will eventually ride the train with all the same channels then you'll want a different value for each channel.
# [17:37] <gaston> ha classes even
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# [17:38] <bbondy> marshall_law: to protect against someone trying to do a cross channel upgrade manually.
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# [17:38] <glandium> gaston: about:config, devtools.chrome.enabled = true , open scratchpad, menu environment > browser
# [17:38] <jprmc> mounir: ok, maybe need a deeper dive
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# [17:39] <glandium> gavin: sounds like another file than AboutRedirector.o.pp lists that. Can you check which file from .deps/* does?
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# [17:39] <marshall_law> bbondy: k, I was just taking some notes :)
# [17:39] <Ms2ger> gavin, AryehGregor killed nsNetError.h recently, fwiw
# [17:39] <@gavin> glandium: oh, there is an AboutRedirector.pp now
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# [17:40] <mounir> jprmc: send me an email, I can summary what happened and what is happening
# [17:40] <@gavin> hrm, or maybe I just didn't look in the right place before
# [17:40] <marshall_law> bbondy: so update-settings.ini gets generated at build time from the mozconfig? how does MAR_CHANNEL_ID get embedded into the MAR? I assume releng handles that part?
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# [17:40] <jprmc> mounir: thanks - i guess I'm wondering why like min/max/step don't record as working on html5test.com
# [17:40] <jprmc> or stepDown()
# [17:40] <@gavin> glandium: it includes the nsNetError.h reference
# [17:40] <@gavin> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1768805
# [17:40] <jprmc> are they actually requiring UI?
# [17:40] <glandium> gavin: that's an old file
# [17:41] <bbondy> so libmar uses the MAR_CHANNEL_ID and encodes it directly into the MAR at build time. ACCEPTED_MAR_CHANNEL_IDS just gets written to the update-settings.ini file. And after downloading an update, the updater.exe program will read that file (which is stored at a secured location) and determine if it should accept the MAR with the specified ID.
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# [17:41] <glandium> gavin: you can remove most .pp files that are not .o.pp
# [17:41] <gaston> seems i need t oimport smth to get access to Components.*
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# [17:41] <glandium> gaston: use scratchpad
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# [17:41] <@gavin> glandium: when did it get removed?
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# [17:41] <glandium> gavin: a few weeks ago
# [17:42] <bbondy> marshall_law: see mar_concat_product_info_block inside modules/libmar/src/mar_create.c
# [17:42] <marshall_law> sweet
# [17:42] <marshall_law> thanks
# [17:42] <@gavin> so since then, anyone who removes a header causes people who haven't clobber to always rebuild the world?
# [17:42] <bbondy> marshall_law: this may also help: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:MAR
# [17:42] <marshall_law> bbondy: we have some custom make glue in b2g for generating MARs as well, I want to make sure that's working as intended
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# [17:43] <marshall_law> bbondy: yeah, I have it bookmarked :)
# [17:43] <glandium> gavin: bug 766975
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# [17:44] <marshall_law> bbondy: channels just represent the various build types? i.e. nightly/aurora/beta/release?
# [17:44] <bbondy> marshall_law: so you can use the mar program's -T option to print out the contents of a MAR. That will include wether it is signed or not and what ID is encoded into it
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# [17:44] <marshall_law> ok cool
# [17:44] <bbondy> marshall_law: ya but more like hg repo name.
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# [17:45] <lduros> is MOZ_APP_PROFILE used to determine the .mozilla profile directory with application.ini, and if no MOZ_APP_PROFILE is set, then it uses MOZ_APP_VENDOR?
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# [17:45] <marshall_law> hrm.. k. I might need to sync up w/ joduinn-home to see what channel IDs they intend to use
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# [17:45] <glandium> lduros: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#8358
# [17:45] <marshall_law> my guess is we will have just nightly and release to start
# [17:45] <bbondy> just use product-repo-name
# [17:45] <marshall_law> k
# [17:46] <mbrubeck> !seen dbaron
# [17:46] <firebot> dbaron was last seen 9 hours, 15 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying 'philor, I presume because the test packaging failed' in #developers.
# [17:46] <lduros> glandium: thanks!
# [17:46] <lduros> that's what I thought :-)
# [17:46] <marshall_law> bbondy: cool, thanks for all your help. I think is more than enough to go on. if I need anything else I'll just ping you :)
# [17:46] <bbondy> marshall_law: mar -T marfile.mar will give you output of http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/modules/libmar/tool/mar.c.html#l177
# [17:47] <bbondy> sounds good
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# [17:47] <bbondy> the product versrion also gets encoded in and verified, but you don't need any extra setup for that
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# [17:47] <bbondy> to ensure you're not doing a downgrade
# [17:47] <marshall_law> hrm
# [17:48] <marshall_law> k
# [17:48] <gaston> glandium: thx that works
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# [17:48] <bbondy> security was basically worried about something like a public library computer, and someone manually using a mar to downgrade the product with a known security hole that could exploit the system.
# [17:48] <marshall_law> bbondy: thanks for the info :) my first steps will be to enable signing/verification for B2G, once I have that working I'll tackle the update-settings work..
# [17:49] <bbondy> sounds good
# [17:49] <marshall_law> hah yeah
# [17:49] <bbondy> thunderbird is doing all of this at the same time btw
# [17:49] <marshall_law> "great"! :)
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# [18:01] <NeilAway> glandium: whoa, just implementing nsIProtocolHandler/nsIChannel is a crash waiting to happen?
# [18:02] <glandium> NeilAway: doing wrong things make a bunch of things crash. most related to lack of NULL checks in C++ code
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# [18:07] <jwir3> is there a way to set a permission on my public_html directory such that every time I copy a file into this directory, it automagically has the correct permissions?
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# [18:10] <glandium> jwir3: no
# [18:11] <jwir3> glandium: dang. I thought this could be achieved through clever use of the sticky bt
# [18:11] <jwir3> bit
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# [18:11] <glandium> jwir3: that allows group membership inheritance, but that's all
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# [18:11] <jwir3> ah
# [18:12] <glandium> jwir3: although acl would allow inherited permissions, i don't know if people has acls
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# [18:12] <glandium> jwir3: try getfacl/setfact
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# [18:12] <jwir3> glandium: Yeah, it does seem to!
# [18:13] <mounir> jprmc: with Firefox Android and B2G, they should be marked as working
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# [18:15] <glandium> jwir3: setfacl -d -m o:r public_html
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# [18:15] <gaston> kinetik: i dont see nsAudioStream.cpp using either sydney or cubeb functions depending on #defines, so where is itsuppose to switch ?
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# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57c1c330e85f - Luke Wagner - Bug 774915 - don't use the property cache for dynamic name lookup (r=bhackett)
# [18:16] <jwir3> glandium: hm. Operation Not Supported. Perhaps one has to be root/have privileges?
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# [18:17] <glandium> jwir3: when it's supported, as long as you own the file, you can set acls on it
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# [18:26] <jlebar> gerv: ping?
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# [18:29] <eeejay> AryehGregor, hey. how are you?
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# [18:32] <jdm> someone submitted a bug with [Great Idea] in the summary
# [18:32] <@khuey> and oddly enough, it is not a great idea
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# [18:32] <mbrubeck> darn!
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# [18:34] <Ms2ger> And he's been spamming the W3C bugzilla about it too
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# [18:34] <@bz> was it a bug about switching to LISP?
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# [18:35] <gregglind_away> what conditions are necessary and sufficient to trigger the 'nicely formatted display' of a json page... my.com/something.json... Is the extension enough? special headers?
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# [18:35] <Bas> bz: What I thought was particularly delightful was he pointer to an article from 2001 and from 2007.. like 'Well. it doesn't seem a lot of progress in the world has been made ... dude' :p
# [18:35] <Bas> *pointed
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# [18:36] <nemo> font-size: -moz-calc(100vw); doesn't work in nightlies?
# [18:36] <Bas> (And one, technically wasn't even an article technically, just a more or less silly rant by Linus Torvalds)
# [18:36] <nemo> seems to work great in IE10
# [18:36] <nemo> also tried calc(100vw) obviously (or IE10 wouldn't work)
# [18:36] <Yoric> khuey: Thanks for the review.
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> nemo, definitely need calc()
# [18:36] <nemo> Ms2ger: well. I have it :-p
# [18:36] <nemo> says "declaration dropped"
# [18:36] <nemo> for -moz, -webkit ... and unprefixed
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# [18:37] <Yoric> jdm: Do you have a pointer to that [Great Idea]?
# [18:37] <@bz> bas: fun
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# [18:37] <Ms2ger> Yoric, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783942
# [18:37] <Yoric> Thanks
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# [18:38] <@bz> nemo: one sec
# [18:38] <@bz> nemo: we don't support viewport-relative units yet
# [18:38] <nemo> :(
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# [18:39] <nemo> score another for IE10. they've been cutting a wide swath through this app so far.
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# [18:39] <nemo> if they had webgl I'd give them top of the heap
# [18:39] <Bas> nemo: I'd even argue the decision not to support WebGL is a good thing :p
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# [18:39] <nemo> Bas: er. why?
# [18:39] <Bas> Because WebGL is a terribly designed API :p
# [18:39] <Bas> It's just GL bindings for a browser, so not what I want to see on the web.
# [18:40] <Bas> It's getting better, though, apparently.
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> Bas, well, you're too late to the party, I'm afraid
# [18:40] <nemo> ok. that's kind of odd, given mozilla was a fan of low level api for audio
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# [18:40] <nemo> Bas: there are tons of JS abstraction libs tho, if that's what one wants
# [18:40] <@bz> I think the point is that Bas thinks GL is a terrible API
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> nemo, Mozilla isn't a fan of anything, Mozillians are :)
# [18:40] <nemo> bz: I got that, I think.
# [18:41] <nemo> bz: GL is kind of broad though. I assume he means GLES2
# [18:41] <@bz> Mozilla is a fan of some things
# [18:41] <@bz> we have a whole manifesto about those
# [18:41] <jesup> re-asking now that left-coast people are awake: If I need an Timer in non-mainthread code, what should I use? nsITimer says to only init from the main thread, and it seems silly to post an event (and deal with a bunch of races) just to start a timer. Or are the docs in the idl file wrong?
# [18:41] <espindola> Ms2ger, in bug 784381. We should s|stdint.h|mozilla/StandardInteger.h|?
# [18:41] <@bz> nemo: no, I think he means GL. ;)
# [18:41] <jesup> Also, is there a way to test if a timer is running? There doesn't seem to be for nsITimer - 'delay' might get set to 0 after a one-shot fires, but it's really not stated.
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# [18:41] <Ms2ger> espindola, yep
# [18:41] <espindola> ah, ok
# [18:41] <espindola> thanks!
# [18:41] * @bz has the advantage of having heard Bas mutter about it before. ;)
# [18:41] <nemo> bz: heh. that encompasses 5 different APIs :)
# [18:41] <Bas> nemo: A stateful, C-based API that lacks any form of direct-state access or proper multithreading support :P
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# [18:41] <nemo> at least. that I'm aware of
# [18:41] <nemo> ah
# [18:41] <Bas> Which is kind of what joins all the horrible abominations of the Khronos group together :p
# [18:42] <@bz> jesup: so...
# [18:42] <Ms2ger> Bas, clearly going to Khronos was a nice idea :)
# [18:42] <nemo> Bas: huh. multithreading? at what level?
# [18:42] <@bz> jesup: really, we should consider making timers threadsafe
# [18:42] <@bz> jesup: they're actually pretty close, I think
# [18:42] <Bas> nemo: Like, have thread A upload texture 1 and thead B upload texture 2 :p
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# [18:42] <nemo> Bas: and. what else would they have turned to for a basis for a cross-platform, easy to implement, API? :)
# [18:43] <jesup> Init is the primary issue, I suspect from the comments
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# [18:43] <Bas> nemo: A nice 'webby' API that can be implemented on top of D3D and OpenGL :)
# [18:43] <nemo> Bas: multithreading would have been totally useless in webgl anyway, unless you were going to allow workers access to the canvas
# [18:43] <@bz> jesup: and we could expose mArmed, too....
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# [18:43] <Bas> nemo: I would most certainly have liked to allow workers access :)
# [18:43] <jesup> bz: please, I'm having to mirror the state
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# [18:43] <Bas> Ms2ger: *grins*, well it creates a lot of political backing. There's a lot of very wealthy companies investing a lot into pushing WebGL now :) So in that sense it was a good idea.
# [18:44] <nemo> Bas: huh. I guess it would have had to have been some kind of limited magic access due to the whole DOM problem
# [18:44] <@bz> jesup: init is ok
# [18:44] <@bz> jesup: but timer firing is not so threadsafe
# [18:44] <@bz> jesup: because of the delay line crud
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# [18:44] <Bas> nemo: Well, as long as your webgl objects and functions are threadsafe :)
# [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86980fdd59dc - John Ford - bug 776783 - disable warnings as errors for Linux B2G Desktop builds DONTBUILD
# [18:44] <@bz> jesup: which we should still remove!
# [18:44] <Bas> But arguably that would've been hard to implement on top of OpenGL anyway.
# [18:44] <Bas> Lots of context with shared lists.
# [18:44] <jesup> bz: yes!
# [18:44] <Bas> Hard to synchronize state and all.
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# [18:45] <Ms2ger> Bas, investing a lot into pushing an API that sucks? Sounds good! ;)
# [18:45] <jesup> bz: so, in the meantime, I'm screwed, right?
# [18:45] <Bas> Ms2ger: Well, you know, this is the thing, standards often suck, it's better to have -a- standard than no standard I suppose.
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# [18:45] <nemo> Bas: actually I was a bit surprised by your statement that you can't upload textures from separate threads. I'd swear I've done that, and am gonna try in the game when I get home
# [18:46] <Bas> nemo: You'd need to un-current your context on one thread, and make it current on another.
# [18:46] <Bas> Or create two contexts with a shared list.
# [18:46] <nemo> bz: so. is Firefox planning to implement viewport relative soon, or do I need another approach?
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# [18:46] <Bas> A context cannot be current on more than 1 thread.
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# [18:46] <ebassi> "let's use thread specific storage for the global state machine context, what could possibly go wrong"
# [18:47] <@bz> nemo: I don't know
# [18:47] <@bz> nemo: dbaron might
# [18:47] <@bz> jesup: yes, unless you want to just fix this crap yourself.
# [18:47] <@bz> jesup: well, you can expose mArmed easily
# [18:47] <@bz> jesup: but for off-thread init, it's a problem
# [18:47] <nemo> bz: by soon, I guess I mean in like "2-4 weeks in at least nightly" ;)
# [18:47] <@bz> jesup: maybe we can add a cheap check that the timer is a main-thread timer before allowing it to affect the delay line?
# [18:47] <@bz> jesup: for now?
# [18:47] <nemo> bz: otherwise I definitely should find another workaround, even though this is targetting IE10 initially
# [18:47] * @bz hates piling hacks on hacks
# [18:47] <Bas> ebassi: Which is why you need direct-state access :p
# [18:47] <@bz> nemo: 2 weeks, no
# [18:47] <@bz> nemo: 4, unclear
# [18:48] <Bas> So only part of your API access is governed by the global state machine.
# [18:48] <@bz> nemo: again, check with dbaron. I'm not sure how high-priotity these are right now.
# [18:48] <nemo> m'k
# [18:48] <espindola> Ms2ger, ok, uploaded a patch for you
# [18:48] <nemo> bz: well. basically, we'd changed the app icons to a custom symbol font "yay woff support in IE10" ! and if they are to scale based on the viewport size, the logical way to do it seemed to be units relative to the viewport
# [18:48] <Ms2ger> espindola, land it
# [18:48] <nemo> actually. I'm not too sure how else to do it :(
# [18:49] <nemo> except some ugly hacks w/ media queries
# [18:49] <nemo> I sure hope they don't drop the calc() unit.
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# [18:50] <espindola> jhford, ping
# [18:50] <nemo> hmmm. maybe I can hack something up w/ moz-element. it might even look ok-ish scaled
# [18:50] <jhford> espindola: pong
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# [18:50] <jhford> brb, getting some water
# [18:50] <espindola> jhford, bug 783505: are nightly builds using gcc? :-(
# [18:50] <espindola> do you have a build log somewhere?
# [18:51] <jhford> espindola: they are using gcc, but the wheels are in motion to change them to Clang
# [18:51] <espindola> jhford, what is the bug number?
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# [18:51] <jhford> hehe, it's a bug you filed ;) bug 783546
# [18:52] <jesup> bz: Maybe I'll try it; as always it's easier just to work around it in the short term... I'll at least file a bug
# [18:52] <jhford> brb
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# [18:52] <espindola> jhford, ah, that is just for the b2g builds...
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# [18:53] <glandium> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1768915 am i missing something?
# [18:54] <@bz> glandium: you're passing the wrong arguments?
# [18:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27b3a3e33f92 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 784381 - Build bustage for comm-central - SHA1.h - Cannot open include file: 'stdint.h. r=ms2ger.
# [18:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dff40a793fab - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 783208 - Force a zoom out on double-tap if we're already zoomed in to the maximum allowed zoom. r=wesj
# [18:54] <@bz> glandium: the value of c should be a property descriptor, no?
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# [18:55] <glandium> aaaaah
# [18:55] <espindola> jhford, and 783546 should be fixed now. Ted replied on IRC, but never updated bugzilla.
# [18:55] <nemo> bz: oh geesh. even IE9 has viewport units
# [18:55] <nemo> and of course safari/chrome
# [18:55] <@bz> nemo: yes, well
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# [18:56] <jhford> espindola: but if we point it to clang before we have tooltool setup, it won't work, right?
# [18:56] <espindola> ah, so tooltool is still missing
# [18:56] <espindola> jhford, correct
# [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c39fdebf386 - Donovan Preston - Bug 733573 - Expose a client TCP socket API to web applications [r=honzab,fabrice]
# [18:56] <jhford> i think it's landed, but not not deployed?
# [18:56] <jhford> at least, that was my reading as of this morning
# [18:57] <nemo> bz: lol. IE9 doesn't have support for font-size: vw tho :D
# [18:57] <gaston> so who's a audio hacker besides kinetik ?
# [18:57] <jhford> is there any magic i need to do to copy a program into the mac app bundle during a clean build?
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# [18:57] <jhford> when I build the first time, my program ends up in dist/bin but not dist/B2G.app
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# [18:59] <nemo> bz: luckily Firefox is not the default browser on Android or iOS and this is a "web app" so I guess I can just ignore it for now. just going to make my usual development a bit harder since I'm used to using Firebug
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# [18:59] <glandium> since defineProperties is more cumbersome than i thought, do you know if we have helpers to do simple inheritance in javascript?
# [18:59] <espindola> bhearsum, bug 783740. Are there any instructions on how the spidermonkey builds are done? Can they use tooltool? How do I test a change?
# [18:59] <@bz> glandium: normally you'd do it with prototypes, right?
# [19:00] <jorendorff> whatwhat?
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# [19:01] <glandium> bz: sure, but it's kind of not nice, isn't it? for instance, i like the syntax of Class.extend on http://ejohn.org/blog/simple-javascript-inheritance/
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# [19:25] <bhearsum> bbondy: ping
# [19:25] <bbondy> bhearsum: hey
# [19:27] <bhearsum> bbondy: i'm hitting a weird error appyling some updates in staging. i have a "15.0b4", which was signed by the dev key (same one we use on try), and a 15.0b5 signed the same way. when i try to apply the mar to go from b4 -> b5 it fails with error 19 and says "ERROR: Error verifying signature."
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# [19:27] <bhearsum> is this because builds from mozilla-beta + dep build key are incompatible?
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# [19:28] <bbondy> sounds like maybe the updater.exe has a different cert embedded into it for verifying the mar
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# [19:29] <bhearsum> so which cert gets embedded into it when we do a mozilla-beta build?
# [19:29] <bhearsum> the release one, i guess?
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# [19:29] <bbondy> ifneq (,$(filter beta release esr,$(MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL)))
# [19:29] <bbondy> RCFLAGS += -DMAR_SIGNING_RELEASE_BETA=1
# [19:29] <bhearsum> ah, ok
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# [19:29] <bhearsum> so when channel = beta, we embed the release cert
# [19:29] <bhearsum> which means we can't apply MARs signed with the dep cert
# [19:29] <bbondy> yup
# [19:29] <bhearsum> ok, cool
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# [19:30] <bbondy> see here: /toolkit/mozapps/update/updater/Makefile.in
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# [19:32] <bhearsum> bbondy: thanks!
# [19:32] <bbondy> np
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# [19:59] <@khuey> somebody really needs to rewrite typeaheadfind to be async
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# [20:04] <edmorley> has someone got something they can push to inbound please?
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# [20:04] <edmorley> (to test the hghook rollout for treestatus.mozilla.org)
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# [20:05] <evilpie> Hey, I just met you, And this is crazy. But here is my hg hook, So push to me, maybe?
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# [20:06] <dholbert> I'm not sure whether that deserves an evilpie++ or an evilpie--
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# [20:06] <edmorley> treestatus correctly blocks stuff when the tree is closed, so at least the critical part works :-)
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# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/321da000a228 - Nick Desaulniers - Bug 784245 - change uuid's for webapplicationregistry [r=fabrice]
# [20:07] <edmorley> \o/
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# [20:08] <KWierso> evilpie+-
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# [20:09] <evilpie> I know, i know
# [20:09] <taras> is it ok to include std/stl headers like string/vector in a popular .h file?
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# [20:09] <edmorley> philor: using treestatus now :-)
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# [20:09] <taras> bsmedberg: is it ok to include std/stl headers like string/vector in a popular .h file?
# [20:10] <@bsmedberg> taras: I *think* so, but cjones is the final answer on that I think
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# [20:10] <philor> edmorley: sweet, now we just need a good infra bustage
# [20:10] <edmorley> lol
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# [20:14] <lduros> if you set MOZ_APP_PROFILE=Mozilla -- it will install the actual profile into ~/.mozilla/profile-name -- is there a way I could set MOZ_APP_PROFILE so that it is: ~/.mozilla/my-choice/ -- maybe MOZ_APP_PROFILE=mozilla/my-choice would work?
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# [20:15] <lduros> would that work? :-)
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# [20:16] <cjones> taras, depends on your module owner, but i'm fine with it
# [20:17] <cjones> note, there's an issue i don't exactly recall with ... <vector>? ... on mac, which conflicts with some Objective-C stuff i think
# [20:17] <fitzgen> is m-c broken for anyone else or just me? I just did a hg pull -u and a make -f client.mk, and am getting build errors
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# [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1f256d6070ac - David Creswick - Bug 739092 - Neterror icon should not be visible behind robot in about:robots. r=dao
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# [20:18] <taras> std headers are great at killing compilation times
# [20:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bface603ef72 - Blair McBride - Bug 783763 - Move browser_bug435325.js to /browser/ and remove reference to nsIDOMWindowUtils. r=dolske
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# [20:26] <gabor> how do I check if two jsids are equal?
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# [20:26] <@bz> gabor: operator== ?
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# [20:29] <gabor> bz: simple as that? no string comparsion needed at all?
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# [20:30] <gabor> bz: anyway thanks, I just wanted to be sure
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# [20:32] <@bsmedberg> joshmoz: reping for review on bug 700583
# [20:33] <joshmoz> bsmedberg: Planning to do all of my reviews starting in 30 minutes
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# [20:34] <mreid> can I cancel a pending build on try?
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# [20:34] <mreid> oh
# [20:34] <mreid> n/m
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# [20:34] <mreid> found the big red stop sign :)
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# [20:35] <edmorley> mreid: :-D
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# [20:37] <taras> khuey: so tell me about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783748
# [20:37] <taras> that seems like a bad regression
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# [20:38] <taras> and you wishing for OMTD seems to contradict what jeff/joe told me
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# [20:38] <taras> ie that we chunk image decoding so it doesn't jank us
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# [20:39] <@dolske> another khuey regression?
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# [20:42] <@dbaron> ted, any thoughts on how to make progress on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757722 ?
# [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a520dc23009 - Isaac Aggrey - Bug 711862 - Do not process the node itself in nsHTMLEditor::RemoveStyleInside if the caller requests only children to be modified; r=ehsan
# [20:44] <@khuey> taras: everything relevant is in the bug, I think
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# [20:50] <NeilAway> khuey: how async? obviously it accesses the DOM, so can't run off the main thread...
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# [20:50] <taras> khuey: i don't see anyone saying it's a minor regression
# [20:50] <taras> nor that we should fix it asap
# [20:50] <firebot> Check-in:
# [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1b51c7bf1e05 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 700583 - Null-check our way out of crashes on both mobile and desktop in pr_FindSymbolInLib caused by plugin code where the plugin fails to load correctly, r=josh
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# [20:51] <@khuey> NeilAway: in chunks, ideally
# [20:51] <@khuey> NeilAway: with yielding
# [20:51] <@khuey> taras: nobody thinks it's a minor regression
# [20:52] * @khuey isn't sure what exactly the disagreement here is
# [20:52] <edmorley> lsblakk: ping
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# [20:53] <taras> khuey: if it's not minor, someone(you?) should commit to fixing it
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# [20:54] <lsblakk> edmorley: pong
# [20:54] <edmorley> lsblakk: hi :-)
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# [20:54] <edmorley> lsblakk: we've finally pushed the changes to switch to treestatus (https://treestatus.mozilla.org/)
# [20:54] <lsblakk> oooh! pretty :)
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# [20:55] <edmorley> lsblakk: so in addition to sending dev.* emails, commenting in the sheriffpass bug etc, I wanted to make sure that merge day wiki pages were updated
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# [20:55] <@khuey> taras: we'll fix it
# [20:55] <edmorley> lsblakk: do you know off-hand, which release-management type wiki pages need fixing up?
# [20:55] <@khuey> taras: there's even a plan in the bug ...
# [20:55] <lsblakk> edmorley: i use https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Merge_Documentation for merge docs
# [20:56] <lsblakk> please add necessary info there - do i need a login to use this new page?
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# [20:56] <lsblakk> i assume this means we no longer close trees through tinderbox admin?
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# [20:57] <edmorley> lsblakk: yes, per user authentication using browserid (I sent multiple reminders to people CCed to the sheriffpass bug as well as dev.* posts a month or two ago)
# [20:57] <edmorley> and yes on the second count
# [20:57] <lsblakk> i don't know how i missed it then :) but i will look again
# [20:57] <taras> khuey: ok, comment 3 could be either a plan or an 'oh well life sucks', sorry for misunderstanding
# [20:58] <@khuey> taras: comment 4 is a plan ;-)
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# [20:58] <edmorley> lsblakk: if you could /msg me your browser id email, I can add you
# [20:58] <@khuey> I think it's a bad plan, but it's a plan
# [20:59] <taras> khuey: alright, either way language is not confidence inspiring. I'll leave you guys to it
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# [21:00] <ltedone> is mozilla-central on hg and on githhub the same repo? why to choose one or the other?
# [21:00] <jduell> gavin: ping
# [21:00] <@gavin> jduell: pong
# [21:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5228384d4da8 - Mark Capella - Bug 741858 - Change stored password doorhanger doesn't handle large password string very well, r=margaret
# [21:01] <jduell> gavin: hey, I'm debugging some changes I made to cookies for B2g and I'm running into a broken test we added in 774003
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# [21:01] <jduell> gavin: basically I'm getting the "social.cookies-get" message, but have a blank cookie. I was just wondering what generates that message--I don't see the string 'cookies-get' anywhere in the tree, nor in the patch
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# [21:02] <jduell> gavin: oh, wait, it looks like the test file "worker_social.js" generates it.
# [21:03] <@gavin> yeah
# [21:04] <@gavin> jduell: which changes did you make? :)
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# [21:04] <jduell> gavin: separate cookie namespace per app
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# [21:05] <jduell> gavin: which involves getting the appID, usually from the DocShell. Which IIRC workers don't have.
# [21:05] <@gavin> jduell: the worker code delegates the cookie getting to a hidden iframe
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# [21:06] <@gavin> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/social/WorkerAPI.jsm#61
# [21:06] <@gavin> that "document" is a document of an iframe loaded in the hidden window
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# [21:09] <jduell> gavin: do you know where the plumbing that maps Services.cookies to nsICookieService (or nsICookieManager) lives?
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# [21:10] <@gavin> it just does a normal getService
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# [21:16] <tbsaunde> philor: sorry about the crazzy test explossion yesterday, I'm shocked by it :/
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# [21:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ca713e1db47 - David Keeler - Bug 767636 - expose plugin fallback type to extensions. r=jaws
# [21:53] <philor> tbsaunde: yours was a pretty mild explosion by yesterday's standards - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14537363&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [21:53] <krishnasurfeasy1> ted: i have a couple questions about writing code that depends on nss. I have an XPCOM component that needs to use nss. Any suggestions as to where I should put my component?
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# [21:56] <edmorley> bsmedberg: is your b.m.o email the same as your browserID email?
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# [21:56] <@bsmedberg> yes
# [21:56] <edmorley> bsmedberg: added :-)
# [21:57] <@bsmedberg> for now, although I still object to browserID giving away email addresses to everyone
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# [21:57] <lightsofapollo> Any clue how I would convert a blob or array buffer into some kind of output steam so I could write it to a file? ( I am in xpcshell context )
# [21:57] <johnath> edmorley: me too please!
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# [21:58] <edmorley> johnath: added johnath at moco, let me know if that wasn't correct :-)
# [21:58] <johnath> perf
# [21:58] <AutomatedTester> sicking: sorry for the silly question: what component does appcache fall under?
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# [22:00] <tbsaunde> philor: ok, thanks
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# [22:05] <reuben> BenWa, ping
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# [22:07] <abhinav> hey, noob question ... what level of C++ is required to help out with firefox bugs ?
# [22:08] <gaston> wizard lvl65
# [22:08] <dzbarsky> abhinav: c++ isn't required. some bugs can be fixed with js/css, and parts of firefox mobile are written in java
# [22:08] <gaston> j/k, it's just regular c++ with hairy templates sometimes
# [22:08] <qDot> How many C++ raids have you done so far.
# [22:09] <qDot> We keep an internal DKP system.
# [22:09] * mreid finds the idea of a C++ raid terrifying
# [22:09] <abhinav> qDot: none !
# [22:10] <abhinav> i am a master's student ... i am proficient with java,python to some extent...
# [22:10] <abhinav> I know C++ to some extent
# [22:10] * edmorley thinks https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriff_Duty#What.27s_a_sheriff.2C_anyways.3F is quite funny
# [22:10] <mbrubeck> abhinav: Prior experience is not generally *required*, but if you are new to C++ then expect to learn a lot as you go.
# [22:10] <qDot> abhinav: Do you at least have a C++ mount?
# [22:10] <BenWa> reuben: ping
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# [22:10] <qDot> Ok fuck now all I can imagine is a feral Stroustrup or Sutter. I'm gonna go hide in my bed for the rest of the day.
# [22:11] <abhinav> qDot: i need to do a lot learning judging by what you are saying...
# [22:11] <reuben> BenWa, hey, is this how I should do cleanup on shutdown (for bug 696045)? https://privatepaste.com/f18a41ce56
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# [22:11] <qDot> abhinav: The first lesson you should learn is to not listen to me. :3
# [22:11] <abhinav> what's a C++ mount ?
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# [22:12] <BenWa> reuben: Ohh yea, I wish it wasn't so difficult to do this
# [22:12] <reuben> abhinav, if you'd rather do Java stuff, there's Firefox Mobile for Android at #mobile
# [22:12] <dholbert> if I have nsAutoString foo; foo = Substring(someOtherString, idxA, idxB);, does that trigger string-copying?
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# [22:13] <reuben> BenWa, no problem, it's just that there are so many different ways to do it and different methods used all over gecko so I didn't know which one was correct
# [22:13] <abhinav> reuben: i am kind of interested in C++ ....
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# [22:13] <dholbert> or is nsAutoString smart enough to not string copy right away, when it's given a substring?
# [22:13] <reuben> BenWa, so listening for xpcom-shutdown is what I should do, right?
# [22:13] <abhinav> perhaps I will dig into firefox mobile to see if I can get of the foot right away ...
# [22:13] <BenWa> I'm looking in MXR one moment
# [22:13] <abhinav> not sure I am that good hahaha ;P
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# [22:15] <jduell> gavin: I assume it's a bug that this line causes TEST-INFO in mochitests rather than an error? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/social/WorkerAPI.jsm#47
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# [22:16] <froydnj> abhinav: you should also talk to the fine folks in #introduction, if you haven't already
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# [22:16] <capella> . o O ( is it wrong to like hairy templates? )
# [22:16] <edmorley> sheppy: how do I mark an MDN page as being out of date / needing fixing?
# [22:16] <reuben> abhinav, take a look at the bugs in http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ to see the kind of work you'd be doing. then if any of those look interesting, you can contact the mentor and start hacking :)
# [22:17] <BenWa> reuben: Maybe widget/cocoa/nsToolkit.h Shutdown
# [22:17] <abhinav> reuben: thanks
# [22:17] <BenWa> That will get called when we shut down the cocoa module
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# [22:19] <reuben> BenWa, hm, alright. I'll have to expose MacPowerInformationService somehow, is it ok for widget to be poking into HAL?
# [22:20] <BenWa> Ohh it lives in HAL
# [22:20] <BenWa> nevermind then
# [22:20] <reuben> :)
# [22:20] <@gavin> jduell: no
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# [22:21] <reuben> BenWa, HalWakeLock.cpp uses the same mechanism I'm using in that patch to shutdown its singleton: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/hal/HalWakeLock.cpp.html#l48
# [22:21] <jduell> gavin: mmK, well then it's a good thing the test hung, 'cause it doesn't report an error otherwise.
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# [22:24] <BenWa> reuben: Alright lets go with xpcom-shutdown, I checked and its fine as long as you don't have any ordering requirements with other xpcom-shutdown or module desctruction stuff
# [22:24] <reuben> BenWa, looks good, I'll attach the patch in a bit
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# [22:26] <BenWa> k, 'll review it today
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# [22:28] <philor> bholley: did you make Android angry?
# [22:29] <bholley> philor: which tree?
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# [22:29] <edmorley> philor: wes perhaps? (looking now)
# [22:29] <Yoric> Mmmhh... nsBuiltinDecoderReader.cpp:226: error: ‘mozilla::ImageFormat’ is not a class or namespace
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# [22:30] <Yoric> Does this sound familiar to someone?
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# [22:30] <padenot> Yoric: yes
# [22:30] <Yoric> What should I do?
# [22:30] <padenot> either upgrade your compiler or apply a certain patch
# [22:30] <Yoric> Which is recommended?
# [22:30] <Yoric> I am on MacOS X.
# [22:30] <padenot> gcc or clang?
# [22:31] <padenot> Yoric: this is the patch: https://bug782372.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=653243
# [22:31] <Yoric> For the moment, gcc.
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# [22:31] <Yoric> But I have no issue with switching to clang.
# [22:31] <padenot> yeah, so gcc4.2
# [22:31] <Yoric> Yes, that's gcc 4.2
# [22:31] <padenot> which is 5 years old
# [22:31] <Yoric> Well, this is an Apple platform :)
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# [22:31] <bholley> philor: it's just a partial backout of the __exposedProps__ change that landed on friday, so I'd be surprised if it was the culprit. But you never know
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# [22:31] <edmorley> wesj: could the bustage here be yours? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=6f955c140b60
# [22:31] <padenot> snow leopard, which is also old :-)
# [22:32] <padenot> well, the fastest is to apply the patch, I guess
# [22:32] <lsblakk> edmorley: i'm watching https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/205115c395d4 for our beta 6 go to build - if you can look at the red stuff there and let us know if it's the push or something else that would be awesome
# [22:32] <lsblakk> oops, not hg link https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Beta&rev=205115c395d4
# [22:32] <wesj> edmorley: the rc orange, or.... everything?
# [22:32] <edmorley> wesj: native android m1, m3, m4, rc
# [22:33] <edmorley> wesj: it's either yours or bholley's (or a mixture I suppose)
# [22:33] <Yoric> padenot: Otherwise, it's a change to .mozconfig, is it?
# [22:33] <edmorley> lsblakk: ok (heading home shortly since late UK, but I'll keep looking until I leave)
# [22:33] <philor> oh, nice coalescing
# [22:34] <padenot> Yoric: and clobber, yes (CXX=clang++, CC=clang in the mozconfig)
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# [22:34] <padenot> actually, I don't know if you need a clobber
# [22:35] <bholley> edmorley: unlikely to be me, I think
# [22:35] <Yoric> I'll do that.
# [22:35] <Yoric> Thanks
# [22:36] <wesj> edmorley: i have no idea how i would have caused that either, but maybe....
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# [22:36] <wesj> bholley: the "Error: Permission denied to access property 'document', expected This frame was navigated." looks like it could be you... ?
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# [22:38] <bholley> wesj: this patch is just a backout of a patch that landed on friday though
# [22:38] * bholley looks
# [22:38] <wesj> bholley: but the nsIURI.host errors are mine. i'll back out
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# [22:41] <dzbarsky> does anyone know how we figure out whre to dispatch click/touch events, in particular how we make sure that we have flushed layout?
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# [22:43] <@khuey> sounds like a question for smaug
# [22:43] <wesj> mbrubeck: am i ok pushing a backout to try and fix the bustage?
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# [22:44] <wesj> dzbarsky: from JS you can call domWindowUtils.elementFromPoint and force a flush. that's how we find event targets
# [22:44] <wesj> i assume something similar happens for normal events....
# [22:44] <dzbarsky> wesj: I meant on the c++ side of things
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# [22:44] <dzbarsky> smaug: you may know this ^
# [22:45] <dzbarsky> "does anyone know how we figure out whre to dispatch click/touch events, in particular how we make sure that we have flushed layout?"
# [22:45] <@smaug> for touch events I think we don't ensure that
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# [22:46] <@smaug> we do flush after mousedown and mouseup
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# [22:47] <mbrubeck> wesj: Yes, feel free to back out...
# [22:47] <dzbarsky> smaug: how about mousemove?
# [22:48] <@smaug> looks like EventStateManager does flush before DOM handles mousemove
# [22:48] <@smaug> (in general we try to flush as rarely as possible)
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# [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f27460e427cc - Wes Johnston - backout c5961842578e CLOSED TREE
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# [22:51] <dzbarsky> smaug: right. so then nothing ensures that we know where frames are when handling a touch event? that seems bad
# [22:51] * NeilAway idly wonders why initWheelEvent is noscript, not that he wants to call it
# [22:51] <hub> XPCOM doc on MDN needs update
# [22:51] <hub> *sigh*
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# [22:52] <@smaug> dzbarsky: sure we know where frames are
# [22:52] <@smaug> it is just not flushed
# [22:52] <dzbarsky> smaug: we do? how do we know?
# [22:53] <@smaug> NeilAway: because the spec changed
# [22:53] <@smaug> it used to have init*
# [22:53] <@smaug> dzbarsky: the frames are there
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# [22:54] <@smaug> their location just hasn't been updated
# [22:54] <@smaug> but you're right, we probably should flush somewhere
# [22:54] <dzbarsky> smaug: ah, so if an element has an ontouch event handler, things won't work?
# [22:54] <dzbarsky> smaug: or may not work, rather, depending on when we end up flushing
# [22:54] * cjones wonders why his no-op rebuilds are much less no-op-y now ...
# [22:54] <sheppy> edmorley: you mark a page as needing fixing by adding the tag "NeedsUpdate" to the page.
# [22:54] <sheppy> We will have a better way soonish.
# [22:55] <@smaug> dzbarsky: not sure I follow
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# [22:56] <dzbarsky> smaug: so if an element has an ontouch event handler, when a touch event comes in, we need to decide what frame is under the touched point. If our frame locations aren't flushed, we won't dispatch the touch event to the right element, so the event handler won't run
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# [22:56] <hub> sheppy: I think you mean to me :-)
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# [22:57] <sheppy> hub: whatever :D
# [22:57] <@smaug> dzbarsky: that is possible yes
# [22:57] <@smaug> since touch event is dispatched to the frame which is under the touch
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# [22:57] <@smaug> well ...
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# [22:58] <@smaug> we do dispatch the event to the frame which presshell thinks is the right frame
# [22:58] <@smaug> it should be the one which user sees
# [22:58] <hub> sheppy: I wouldn't I noticed addn't I paid attention ;-)
# [22:58] <@smaug> but from DOM/JS point of view it can be wrong one
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# [22:59] <sheppy> hub: the XPCOM doc does badly need work; it's been on my to-do list since I joined Mozilla in 2006.
# [22:59] <dzbarsky> smaug: kind of. I'm working on a patch to avoid flushing style for some css animations, so if a frame is transformed, the style system would not know about it until we explicitly flush.
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# [23:01] <@smaug> dzbarsky: ok, that is a different case
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# [23:02] <@smaug> and in that case flush is probably more important
# [23:02] <@smaug> dzbarsky: since you're dealing with something outside layout
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# [23:03] <dzbarsky> smaug: yes, that's what I was thinking
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# [23:04] <edmorley> sheppy: thank you :-)
# [23:05] <sheppy> edmorley: np :)
# [23:05] <sheppy> Eventually there is going to be a really neat system for flagging problems with content, etc.
# [23:05] <sheppy> Of course, you could also just update the page yourself :)
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# [23:05] <dzbarsky> smaug: so http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/content/events/src/nsEventStateManager.cpp.html?string=nsEventStateManager.cpp#l1062 takes care of mousemove, right?
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# [23:07] <cjones> something seems to be very wrong in our build dependencies
# [23:07] <cjones> anyone know if there's a bug open already?
# [23:07] <Callek> edmorley: FYI I triggered a nightly on bsmedberg's 1b51c7bf1e05
# [23:07] <@smaug> dzbarsky: yes
# [23:07] <Callek> didn't want to reuse the same cset as another nightly run
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# [23:08] <edmorley> philor: the treestatus in tbpl updates without requiring a reload \o/ :-)
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# [23:09] <dzbarsky> smaug: I'm not sure I see where we flush for mousedown/mouseup
# [23:09] <dzbarsky> smaug: I thought it would be somewhere in PresShell::HandleEventInternal
# [23:10] <philor> edmorley: woo!
# [23:10] <@smaug> dzbarsky: see the eventdispatching callback in presshell
# [23:10] <jduell> gavin: so the social test (or perhaps the social infrastructure generally) is putting the worker into a mozbrowser element
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# [23:10] <@smaug> nsESMEventCB
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# [23:10] <jduell> I assume that's to sandbox its privileges
# [23:10] <@gavin> mixedpuppy: <jduell> gavin: so the social test (or perhaps the social infrastructure generally) is putting the worker into a mozbrowser elemen
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# [23:11] <NeilAway> khuey: so, some content script should be able to mutate the DOM while you're searching it?
# [23:11] <@gavin> jduell: something like that. I don't think we looked into it too deeply
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# [23:11] <@khuey> NeilAway: well, you'd have to handle that somehow
# [23:11] <@khuey> NeilAway: hanging the entire browser for 3 seconds is pretty shitty though
# [23:12] <jduell> mixedpuppy: gavin: with the B2G cookie changes, this now means that it uses a separate cookie namespace. So the test fails because earlier in the non-worker part of the test we add the cookie it expects
# [23:12] <NeilAway> khuey: just implement content processes on desktop :-P
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# [23:12] <jduell> but we add it to appID=0, inBrowserElement=false namespace (the default namespace), while the worker searches appid=0, inBrowser=true
# [23:13] <jduell> mixedpuppy: gavin: we don't have a good way right now to make Services.cookie.add work with anything but the default namespace
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# [23:13] <jduell> So I'm wondering if instead I can post a 'test.cookies-set' message to the worker, to have it set the cookie via document.cookie = ....
# [23:13] * NeilAway wonders whether anyone answered dholbert
# [23:14] <mixedpuppy> jduell: in our current use-case, our worker needs read access to the domain cookies that a site would otherwise set in normal browser tabs in order to monitor login/logout state
# [23:14] <dholbert> NeilAway, I don't think so. Do you know? :)
# [23:14] <jduell> mixedpuppy: gavin: this ought to work unless there's some reason you wanted to set the cookie on the main thread
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# [23:14] <jduell> mixedpuppy: ah. In that case you can't put the worker in a mozbrowser.
# [23:14] <@gavin> jduell: seems like we need to just stop using mozbrowser
# [23:14] <dzbarsky> smaug: ah, and that is created in HandleEventInternal. ok, so can I just add NS_TOUCH_EVENT_START to the condition to flush layout?
# [23:14] <dholbert> NeilAway, I think no string-copying happens, though I'm not sure. (Every time I go digging into what string type is typedeffed /subclasssed /etc. to/from what, in what file, I die a little bit)
# [23:14] <Pike> ctalbert: can't figure out the url you pasted in the issue thread in .planning to dropbox, fwiw
# [23:14] <jduell> gavin: mixedpuppy: what was the reason for the mozbrowser? some sort of sandbox?
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# [23:15] <NeilAway> dholbert: I would have thought that it would have forced a copy
# [23:15] <@gavin> jduell: I don't recall a good reason
# [23:15] <dholbert> NeilAway, darn. that was my initial suspicion, too, but I wanted to think it was more magical than that
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# [23:16] <mixedpuppy> jduell: yes, if it were a xul:iframe I would just use type=content, I think that is all we need, but I'm not terribly familier with the new stuff (ie. mozbrowser)
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# [23:16] <jduell> mixedpuppy: gavin: ok, can we file a bug to remove the mozbrowser? I'll need it fairly soon to land B2G cookies
# [23:16] <NeilAway> dholbert: if your lifetime is safe, you could of course keep the substring around in an nsDependent[C]Substring if you prefer
# [23:16] <@gavin> jduell: yes, go ahead and file it
# [23:17] <mixedpuppy> for my benefit, where do I find out more about what mozbrowser does?
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# [23:17] <dholbert> NeilAway, it is safe. Cool, yeah -- I think that's what I want to use
# [23:17] <@gavin> mixedpuppy: there's https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/Using_the_Browser_API
# [23:17] <@gavin> but, uh, it's got some holes :)
# [23:17] <jduell> mixedpuppy: right now you try to bug jlebar or cjones on IRC. I can try to give you some lowdown--what do you need to know?
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# [23:17] <mixedpuppy> jduell: it's just to be aware/learn
# [23:18] <dholbert> NeilAway, (or rather, I think that's what the patch I'm reviewing wants to use)
# [23:18] <jduell> The basic idea is that in B2G firefox itself (or other browsers) are web apps, and we want to be able to isolate their cookies/appcache/etc from the content that they load and display
# [23:18] <@gavin> jduell: I think we can jsut remove http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/social/FrameWorker.jsm#245
# [23:18] <@gavin> we already set mozframetype=content
# [23:18] <jduell> so for content that the browser app browses, we mark the docshell as isInBrowserElement
# [23:18] <@gavin> so the comment there doesn't apply
# [23:18] <NeilAway> dholbert: link?
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# [23:18] <dholbert> NeilAway, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783915
# [23:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9315dc9bb36f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 768503 follow-up: fix the comment to match what the code does now
# [23:19] <jduell> gavin: ok, I'll give that a try
# [23:19] <dholbert> NeilAway, the SVGFragmentIdentifier.cpp chunk of that patch
# [23:20] <mixedpuppy> jduell: ok, that helps, thanks!
# [23:20] <jduell> mixedpuppy: np
# [23:20] <@gavin> jduell: hrm, actually, reading through https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762569#c26 , we may not be able to just remove it
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# [23:21] <@gavin> jduell: since on windows/linux the hidden window is also a content docshell, and so that would mean .top would start working
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# [23:21] <jduell> gavin: so we need some sort of frob that says "can't access .top, but please share same appID/inBrowser"?
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# [23:22] <NeilAway> dholbert: ah, that's harder, because there's no operator=
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# [23:23] <dholbert> NeilAway, yeah, I was just searching mxr to see if we had an operator=
# [23:23] <@gavin> jduell: yeah, I guess...
# [23:23] <dholbert> it looks like we have Rebind() though
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# [23:23] <NeilAway> dholbert: you could fake it with foo.Rebind(params, 0) perhaps
# [23:24] <mixedpuppy> gavin, jduell: is this affecting anything other than the cookies?
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# [23:25] <jduell> mixedpuppy: we also use separate namespaces for appcache, LocalStorage, IndexedDB
# [23:25] <dholbert> NeilAway, doesn't "nsString" just work?
# [23:25] <mixedpuppy> ok, for us right now, localstorage and cookies are the issue
# [23:25] <NeilAway> dholbert: same problem, operator= copies
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# [23:26] <NeilAway> dholbert: it's only from one nsString with a sharable buffer to another nsString that you get sharing
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# [23:28] <NeilAway> eek, bugzilla gave me a slow script warning on my high-spec pc that can do a full compile in 15 minutes
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# [23:32] <Callek> edmorley: apparantly 'we' missed a required step with these Android nightlies -- we're working on fixing
# [23:33] <Callek> edmorley: you'll get red again
# [23:33] <edmorley> Callek: ok, thanks :-)
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# [23:35] <ctalbert> Pike: it was the same URL that dave lawrence posted in his post, I just didn't see his post before I sent it
# [23:35] <ctalbert> I'll repost
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# [23:36] <Pike> ctalbert: I don't see anything on dropbox, it comes back with a 404
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# [23:36] <ctalbert> yeah I somehow snafu'd the link when I copy/pasted it
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# [23:38] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I'm hoping to review the stdint patches tomorrow morning
# [23:39] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: awesome! so I will do a try push right now...
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# [23:41] <espindola> coop|buildduty, thanks for 83551
# [23:41] <espindola> 783551
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# [23:42] <espindola> can/should we force a nightly build to verify it is using clang?
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# [23:42] <espindola> philor, ping
# [23:42] <philor> espindola: pong
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# [23:43] <espindola> philor, bug 783740. Do you have any information on how we do SiderMonkey builds?
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# [23:43] <espindola> do we use the same buildbot infrastructure as regular firefox builds?
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# [23:44] <philor> espindola: pretty much the only "documentation" is in a build log - it's the same slaves (roughly, I think they use the Win32 slaves instead of the Win64), but not quite the same style of buildsteps
# [23:44] <Callek> espindola: hold out on forcing another nightly
# [23:44] <espindola> do you know if we can run tooltool?
# [23:45] <espindola> Callek, ok
# [23:45] <Callek> espindola: we'll be doing *yet another* nightly on m-c within the hour, I suspect
# [23:45] <espindola> "good"
# [23:45] <Callek> since we're trying to fix an android native nightly issue
# [23:45] <espindola> thanks for letting me know. Can you past the build log when you get it?
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# [23:46] <bjacob> is Waldo back?
# [23:46] <philor> espindola: http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/buildbotcustom/misc.py#2205 (and ScriptFactory) is pretty much all the buildbot parts, beyond that you're in spidermonkey.sh
# [23:46] <Callek> espindola: would it suffice to tell you the url for the tbpl cset its triggered on?
# [23:46] <bjacob> oh, in a few days
# [23:46] <espindola> Callek, I think so. I just want to check the "b2g on macos build" log
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# [23:47] <Callek> ok, sure
# [23:47] <Callek> will let you know
# [23:47] <espindola> thanks
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# [23:50] <philor> espindola: so, probably some work for tooltool, since it's implemented in MozillaBuildFactory and ScriptFactory is just a plain BuildFactory
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# [23:51] <espindola> philor, what is the relative priority of getting 783740 fixed? I assume those builds are not used very often since the gcc builds on os x were broken for days...
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# [23:52] <edmorley> espindola: spidermonkey builds are hidden by default, so basically not urgent
# [23:52] <philor> espindola: you'd want to ask someone in releng, probably joduinn, but my offhand guess would be in the neighborhood of "P4, if you're waiting for a MoCo releng employee to fix it, you might want to buy a better chair to sit in while you wait"
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# [23:53] <espindola> well, the real question is "do I have to figure this out myself before the next merge"
# [23:53] <espindola> ?
# [23:53] <espindola> or can I wait for relenge?
# [23:53] <philor> nothing to do with merges, they only run on inbound and ionmonkey
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# [23:54] <espindola> philor, gcc builds on os x will start failing on the next merge
# [23:54] <espindola> that is when we drop support for gcc 4.2
# [23:54] <philor> espindola: yeah, well, I was surprised they got fixed from the bustage ;)
# [23:55] <philor> the theory is that they are very important to jseng hackers
# [23:55] <philor> the fact is that they break them and then ignore them for weeks on end
# [23:55] <espindola> ah, ok, I will wait for releng then
# [23:55] <espindola> thanks
# [23:56] <bdahl> khuey: ping
# [23:56] <nemo> awww. no bz :(
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# [23:56] <espindola> figuring out how 3000 lines of python work is not that fun
# [23:56] <philor> windows has been broken for... months, maybe?
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# [23:57] <espindola> !
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# [23:57] <bsmith> When should an error be logged to the error console and when should the error be logged to the web console? And, should the same error ever be logged into both consoles?
# [23:58] <@gavin> errors should always be logged to the web console, generally
# [23:58] <@khuey> bdahl: pong
# [23:58] <@gavin> (assuming they can be tied to a single browser tab)
# [23:58] <nemo> does anyone here mind terribly taking a look at a CSS error in transitions I've noticed in nightly? (doesn't impact stable)
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# [23:59] <dzbarsky> nemo: sure
# [23:59] <bsmith> Would it be fair to say that, if the error is specific to a particular browser tab, then it goes in the web console; otherwise (e.g. chrome code), in the error console
# [23:59] <@gavin> we would like to get rid of the error console
# [23:59] <nemo> yay!
# [23:59] <@gavin> but are being hampered by it being the only place some errors appear
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# [23:59] <@gavin> bsmith: yes
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