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# Session Start: Fri Aug 24 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <philor> dolske: you're not sheriff, sayrer is :)
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# [00:01] <Callek> bjacob: +1 for each from everyone in this channel
# [00:01] <philor> "what? I'm sheriff today after having been gone forever? and a tree I've never seen has multiple overlayed bustages?"
# [00:01] <Callek> bjacob: seriously!
# [00:01] <philor> back in 10
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# [00:02] <Callek> "what? I was just hired, don't know anything about Mozilla and I'm the sheriff what does all this red mean"
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# [00:02] <mbrubeck> next question: Is robocop perma-orange in a new and exciting way?
# [00:03] <mbrubeck> looks like this one is lucasr
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# [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fb25861ffd9 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 2c9059056119 and 52453ab440ec (bug 771380) for robocop perma-orange on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:06] <RyanVM> wow, this is epic bustage
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# [00:06] <RyanVM> I think the longest string of backouts I can recall thus far was 4
# [00:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b59e022e7bfe - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for fennec 15.0b7 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
# [00:06] <mbrubeck> hg log -u mbrubeck --template '{desc|firstline}\n' | head -100 | cut -f1 -d' ' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
# [00:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bfda5abc47a7 - ffxbld - Added FENNEC_15_0b7_RELEASE FENNEC_15_0b7_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset b59e022e7bfe. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [00:06] <mbrubeck> 57 Bug, 31 Back, 10 Merge, 1 Re-land, 1 Backed
# [00:07] <RyanVM> wow
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# [00:13] <philor> I thought robocop was just wesj
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# [00:13] <philor> well, okay, I thought it was gbrown, but then I shifted allegiance
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# [00:14] <philor> oh, nice
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# [00:18] <mbrubeck> It's weird, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785039 appeared once randomly earlier today, but then it became permaorange after lucasr's push...
# [00:18] <mbrubeck> still trying to figure that out
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# [00:22] <RyanVM> Callek: the 300+ tegras have the same intermittent reftest issues as the 290 ones, right?
# [00:22] <Callek> RyanVM: theoretically :/
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# [00:22] <Callek> RyanVM: hopefully not though
# [00:22] <Callek> RyanVM: but philor also saw some 100-ish tegras with the same reftest intermittent issue
# [00:22] <RyanVM> seeing it on 349
# [00:23] <Callek> RyanVM: yea, go ahead and star and alloc it to the same bug
# [00:23] <RyanVM> 314 rather
# [00:23] <Callek> (and retrigger if it makes sense)
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# [00:23] * Callek is sad that another intermittent *seems* to be caused by this new deploy.
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# [00:29] <@khuey> my secure bugmail isn't working ...
# [00:29] <@khuey> bent: is yours ^?
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# [00:30] <bent> no
# [00:31] <@gavin> yeah it's busted
# [00:31] <@gavin> bsmedberg filed a bug
# [00:31] <bent> wtf
# [00:31] <bent> gavin, where?
# [00:31] <@gavin> bug 785222
# [00:31] <@gavin> oh, fixed now
# [00:31] <@gavin> but was broken between 12 hours ago and now
# [00:32] <@gavin> or will be fixed soon, I guess
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# [00:34] <Callek> gavin: broken as in "no e-mail" or "sending as the (Secure Bug Changed) subtext?
# [00:34] * Callek supposes reading bug is better
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# [00:34] <ddahl> is there any special magick I need to call a function on contentWindow.navigator.mozApps.foo() from a chrome browser test?
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# [00:34] <jhammel> Callek: beh, that's overrated
# [00:34] <@khuey> broken as in "doesn't decrypt"
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# [00:35] <jhammel> khuey: how do you know people aren't just sending garbage that just looks like encrypted text? o_O
# [00:35] <ddahl> its like my call is just ignored
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# [00:36] <philor> whew, RyanVM had me worried that we were down to a piddly 17 hours of try backlog, but really it's over 24 hours
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# [00:36] <RyanVM> hey, I was just looking at windows mochitest
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# [00:45] <ddahl> this test does not work. calling the navigator.mozApps function from the chrome browser test just seems to be ignored: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1772947 line 22
# [00:45] <ddahl> anyone know what the issue is?
# [00:45] <ddahl> if I manually run that command form the console, it works
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# [00:48] <fabrice> ddahl: do you see any exception raised?
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# [00:48] <ddahl> fabrice: nothing
# [00:48] <ddahl> and the line after logs things just fine
# [00:48] <fabrice> but why do you think it's failing?
# [00:49] <ddahl> fabrice: i have no idea, if I run it manually from the console it works great
# [00:49] <@smaug> nooouu, tree is closed
# [00:50] <fabrice> ddahl: I don't understand how you check that it works or not
# [00:50] <ddahl> fabrice: it must be a wrapper thing
# [00:50] <ddahl> fabrice: i run the test, it times out and I have 30 seconds to open the console and paste in a command
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# [00:53] <ddahl> fabrice: seems like a focus issue actually
# [00:54] <ddahl> fabrice: since i am waiting to see a popup
# [00:54] <fabrice> ha, so the doorhanger is not getting closed?
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# [00:55] <glandium> gavin: ping
# [00:56] <ddahl> fabrice: the doorhanger is never opened unless the tab is focused
# [00:56] <@gavin> glandium: pong
# [00:56] <glandium> gavin: is there a bug on file for the .pp issue?
# [00:57] <@gavin> glandium: not that I know of
# [00:57] <glandium> gavin: i have an idea to fix it for everyone
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# [01:19] <gps> everyone here should give sid0 I giant virtual hug
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# [01:20] <glandium> gps: let's nominate him as friend of the tree
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# [01:21] <gps> he should be friend of the tree for multiple weeks
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# [01:22] <@dolske> gps: what's the hug for?
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# [01:23] <sid0> not yet :p
# [01:23] <sid0> let it actually be deployed
# [01:23] <gps> oh, ok. I'll be quiet :)
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# [01:23] <gps> sorry, dolske
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# [01:28] <mbrubeck> I think I'll re-open the tree if rc goes green...
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# [01:29] <Bas> ted: Say, I was looking at the build system thread, and I was wondering how the parsing speed of python compares to some of the simpler languages, as processing the build system description files for the entire tree might become a significant timesink I suppose.
# [01:29] <Bas> (I mean, if it could then be processed into MSVC it would still save -lots- of time on local rebuilds, but considering pull/updates and all)
# [01:30] <Mook_as> but it'd be a bonus _if_ we get to leave *.pyc behind, right? (i.e. skip re-parsing on depend builds)
# [01:30] <Bas> Mook_as: Possibly, I don't know enough about the details.
# [01:31] <Bas> I suppose so.
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# [01:31] <Mook_as> that's okay, me neither! :D
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# [01:35] <mbrubeck> oh right, I was going to push this backout to m-c too
# [01:35] <mbrubeck> there you go
# [01:36] <mbrubeck> trees are open
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# [01:56] <jlebar> Can I do a bugzilla transitively-blocks search, or do I have to write that myself?
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# [01:58] <@gavin> jlebar: IIRC there's no way to do that
# [01:59] <jlebar> gavin: Okay, thanks.
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# [01:59] <bnicholson> gavin: question about @font-face and reftests
# [01:59] <mbrubeck> jlebar: You can go to the dependency tree, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=668288
# [01:59] <mbrubeck> and click on "view as bug list"
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# [02:00] <mbrubeck> then click "edit search" at the bottom of the bug list
# [02:00] <@ted> Bas: presumably you only have to do it once, at configure time
# [02:00] <mbrubeck> to get a search for pre-populated with the list of transitive blockers, so that you can search within that list.
# [02:00] <@ted> so i wouldn't worry overly much
# [02:00] <jlebar> mbrubeck: Heh. But then I can't filter by e.g. flags.
# [02:00] <jlebar> mbrubeck: Although that is the closest I've been able to get to what I want!
# [02:00] <bnicholson> gavin: so this patch is giving R3 failures: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/292a4aa6537b
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# [02:00] <Bas> ted: I reconfigure a -rediculous- amount of the time though.
# [02:01] <Bas> ted: It seems people touch configure.in at least once a day
# [02:01] <bnicholson> but the changes in that patch are contained almost entirely to about:reader
# [02:01] <@ted> heh
# [02:01] <@ted> Bas: we should really rewrite configure too
# [02:01] <bnicholson> the one exception being the @font-face declarations in the global content.css
# [02:01] <@ted> it's super slow on windows
# [02:01] <bnicholson> any idea how that could possibly cause the R3 failures i'm seeing?
# [02:02] <Bas> ted: Also, wouldn't adding files and such need to re-run it too? (i.e. if I'd general Visual Studio files from it (YAY!!!) those would need to be updated with new files)
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# [02:04] <mbrubeck> bnicholson: I suspect that it's causing a timing difference in layout/painting
# [02:05] <mbrubeck> so that the reftest finishes before the page styles are fully applied, or something
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# [02:05] <@ted> Bas: yes
# [02:05] <@ted> sort of unavoidable
# [02:06] <bnicholson> mbrubeck: from what i could find about @font-face, the fonts aren't actually loaded until they're used in the page
# [02:06] <Bas> ted: Right, so it seems to me (naively), taking more than say +/- 5 minutes to parse the whole tree would be on the long side.
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# [02:07] <@khuey> WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS is obnoxious
# [02:08] <bnicholson> mbrubeck: but i guess there aren't a lot of other explanations...do you know a good person to talk to about this?
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# [02:09] <jesup> ted: configure is so slow you can knit sweaters while it runs.
# [02:09] <@ted> Bas: i have no concept of how long anything is gonig to take, but we're not going to make it obnoxiously slow
# [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/346289a882b8 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 784895 - Remove unnecessary token pasting. r=mrbkap.
# [02:09] <jesup> (on windows)
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# [02:09] <@ted> jesup: yeah, it's horrible
# [02:09] <@ted> all that shell invocation
# [02:09] <@gavin> bnicholson: try asking dbaron?
# [02:09] <Bas> ted: Maybe I'm saying something super-stupid, but how's the cmake file formaT?
# [02:09] <bnicholson> gavin: i was going to, but looks like he's offline
# [02:10] <Bas> (The only format I've worked with in the past outside of straight VS projects and Makefile.in is Qt .pro files)
# [02:10] <@gavin> bnicholson: why do those styles need to be in content.css?
# [02:10] <@ted> Bas: i have no idea, but cmake is a whole other ball of wax
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# [02:11] <Bas> I guess I haven't taken the time to fully understand the problem domain :)
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# [02:13] <bnicholson> gavin: for some reason, the font declaration wasn't working in an unprivileged frame
# [02:13] <bnicholson> are fonts immune to contentaccessible=yes?
# [02:13] <mbrubeck> bnicholson: Umm... looks like bz has done stuff with printing reftests, and jfkthame/jdaggett know about font stuff. (Not sure if any of them are online right now either, though.)
# [02:14] <bnicholson> bz: ping
# [02:14] <espindola> mbrubeck, thanks! I was going crazy debugging why upgrading clang was causing a test_listscripts-01.js timeout!
# [02:15] <mbrubeck> heh
# [02:15] <espindola> I was looking only on linux and os x
# [02:15] <espindola> I guess whatever optimization changed made the timing closer to windows
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# [02:16] <@gavin> bnicholson: because chrome://browser/skin/ isn't accessible from content, presuambly?
# [02:16] <@gavin> you could put the font file in the contentaccessible content package
# [02:16] <@gavin> chrome://browser/content/.../opensans-regular.ttf
# [02:16] <mbrubeck> man, look at all those pending builds... tempted to close inbound again. :(
# [02:16] <bnicholson> gavin: i can access the stylesheets from chrome://browser/skin just fine in the frame
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# [02:17] <bnicholson> gavin: but ok, i guess moving the fonts to content/ would be a good thing to test
# [02:17] <bnicholson> i'll try that
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# [02:18] <@gavin> bnicholson: can you reproduce the bustage locally?
# [02:18] <@gavin> you could also confirm that removing the font declaration fixes the reftest issues if you haven't
# [02:18] <bnicholson> gavin: if i go to those pages on my phone, they don't look busted
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# [02:18] <bnicholson> yeah, i'm doing a try run now
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# [02:19] <@gavin> which pages? from reftest? is it hard to run reftest locally?
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# [02:20] <bnicholson> oh, i didn't actually run the reftests
# [02:20] <bnicholson> i just went to the html used in the reftests and looked at the page
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# [02:28] <bnicholson> gavin: still see this if i try to use chrome://browser/content/ : [JavaScript Error: "downloadable font: download not allowed (font-family: "OpenSansLight" style:normal weight:normal stretch:normal src index:0): bad URI or cross-site access not allowed
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# [02:29] <mbrubeck> hmm, open bug about @font-face and printing... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568
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# [02:30] <bnicholson> mbrubeck: hmm....nice find
# [02:30] <bnicholson> that might be it?
# [02:31] <mbrubeck> though in that case it looks like only content using the fonts was affected... I still suspect a timing issue
# [02:32] <mbrubeck> even if the fonts aren't downloaded, maybe the presence of @font-face makes us delay painting to avoid a possible flash-of-unstyled content scenario...
# [02:32] <bnicholson> i thought we do flash unstyled content
# [02:32] <bnicholson> and then replace them once they're downloaded
# [02:32] <bnicholson> (at least that's what i remember from looking this up a few weeks ago)
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# [02:34] <bdahl> i believe fonts are loaded synchronously as of ff14
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# [02:37] <bnicholson> interesting
# [02:37] <bdahl> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512566
# [02:38] <mbrubeck> looks like that's for src:url(data:...) only?
# [02:39] <hobophobe> ttaubert: ping re: bug 583890 patches; what needs to be done to prepare for check-in? They apply cleanly and have commit messages.
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# [02:42] <bnicholson> mbrubeck: yeah...though maybe a workaround for the problem i'm seeing now might be to put the font declarations back into aboutReader.css with data: uris instead of chrome:// ones
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# [02:44] <cjones> dammit, sorry
# [02:44] <cjones> meant to push the backout with the reland
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# [02:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/986c07b3f3e6 - Luke Wagner - Bug 625199 - kill dummy frames (r=mrbkap)
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# [02:52] <mcomella> Hey. I'm working on FF for Android and I'm trying to do a partial build on some cpp code in m-c/dom but the changes are not appear in my build. Can anyone help out?
# [02:52] <mcomella> *appearing
# [02:53] <Callek> khuey: if you're still around what needs to get built after dom/ in toolkit to make dom/ changes appear
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# [02:53] <mbrubeck> mcomella: Are you running make only in the $OBJDIR/dom directory? If so, you'll need to also make in $OBJDIR/toolkit/library to re-link libxul
# [02:53] <mbrubeck> and then run 'make package' of course
# [02:53] <Callek> mbrubeck++
# [02:53] <mcomella> mbrubeck: Okay, I'll try that. Thanks!
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# [02:55] <bz> font loads are sync for data: only
# [02:55] <bz> others are async
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# [02:55] <bz> but while fonts are loading we don't show the text for a bit
# [02:55] <bz> until a timer fires
# [02:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5f32f0e1c05 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 742195 (Implement the extended attributes for null and undefined handling on strings in Paris bindings). r=bz.
# [02:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bed30d952cc - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 784809. Allow null for the repeat argument of canvas createPattern. r=peterv
# [02:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ba35e8d4457 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 785188 (Make Xrays work with newest DOM list bindings). r=mrbkap.
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# [02:59] <@khuey> Callek: toolkit/library
# [03:00] <RyanVM> man, this amount of build hardware is unsustainable
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# [03:00] <Callek> ?
# [03:00] <Callek> RyanVM: ^
# [03:01] <mbrubeck> We're getting Windows testing on every third or fourth push at best. :(
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# [03:01] <RyanVM> Callek: and 24+hr wait times on Try
# [03:02] <Callek> RyanVM: so to reword, "this amount of checkins/hour is unsustainable with the current lot of hardware we have up"
# [03:02] <Callek> RyanVM: i thought you were trying to say "we have too much hardware"
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# [03:02] <RyanVM> yes, your rephrasing is better :)
# [03:02] <mcomella> mbrubeck: It worked. Thanks!
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# [03:03] <cjones> the infra is fine, just developers are writing too much damn code
# [03:03] <Callek> cjones: basically yes
# [03:03] <mbrubeck> or in the case of some of us, backing out too much damn code.
# [03:03] <RyanVM> it's awful hard to fault people for pushing without Try results when Try can't give them results in a reasonable amount of time
# [03:03] <cjones> </facetious>
# [03:03] <Callek> cjones: the thing is, we want developers to write MORE code, we just need to have better turnaround times for developers to get *meaningful* results from the code they write
# [03:04] <Callek> and owners of the tree/products to identify when someone breaks shit
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# [03:04] <Callek> RyanVM: p.s. did you know that pushing to a twig lines up BEHIND try pushes atm?
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# [03:05] <RyanVM> Callek: wow
# [03:05] <RyanVM> So Try is basically behind m-c and inbound? (and presumably aurora/beta/release/esr10)
# [03:05] <mbrubeck> That explains the elm pushes from 7 hours ago that have pending jobs still....
# [03:05] <Callek> yea, m-c and inbound TESTS get run before try TESTS
# [03:05] <Callek> mbrubeck: elm is an exception and is same prior as m-c/m-a/m-beta/etc.
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# [03:06] <RyanVM> Callek: I understand the (current at least) need for using minis across all platforms for performance testing, but why for regression testing? Why can't we use more powerful machines for those tests?
# [03:06] <mbrubeck> ah, so elm is just lagging because Windows
# [03:07] <Callek> RyanVM: I'm the wrong one to answer that, I know we're working on improving our overall capacity, and refreshing the used images as a whole
# [03:07] <Callek> (there are plans to begin testing/offloading some TESTS liek xpcshell runs to AWS for linux, at least, fwiw)
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# [03:09] <RyanVM> AWS is linux-only?
# [03:09] <RyanVM> and yeah, offloading to AWS is great
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# [03:10] <Callek> RyanVM: aws is linux-only for now (I don't know how well it can handle other OS's, if at all)
# [03:10] <Callek> RyanVM: *and* its a newer base system [currently CentOS6]
# [03:10] <mbrubeck> EC2 can run Windows Server, but I don't know if their Windows configurations would be compatible with what we need.
# [03:10] <RyanVM> i just pushed a checkin-needed patch to Try where I was able to find a previous Try push that made sure it compiles but didn't run tests. I'm betting that someone else will check it in within the next 24hr before my Try push with tests actually finishes
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# [03:10] <Callek> we're planning to move linux builders to AWS and reimage those machines too
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# [03:11] <RyanVM> sweet
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# [03:11] <Callek> so yea, teh capacity thing is one of RelEng's top priorities right now
# [03:12] <RyanVM> i mean, in the big picture, this is a great problem to have! Just wish it wasn't so darn painful in the present
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# [03:13] <bnicholson> mbrubeck: gavin: fyi, including the font in aboutReaderContent.css as a data: uri works...i guess i'll just use that for now (assuming it passes the reftests)
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# [03:15] <@dolske> talk about parallelizing tests... :D
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# [03:17] <RyanVM> luke: bustage
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# [03:18] <RyanVM> luke: real or needs-clobber?
# [03:18] <luke> RyanVM: lemme look real quick
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# [03:19] <luke> RvanVM: arg, someone just added a new use of an API i changed/renamed. but its pretty trivial to fix in place... mind if i do that?
# [03:19] <RyanVM> go for it
# [03:19] <luke> RyanVM: (mac-only, of course, i built on linux before pushing)
# [03:20] <luke> RyanVM: hah, clang even suggested the right replacement!
# [03:20] <luke> how friendly
# [03:20] <RyanVM> heh
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# [03:21] <ttaubert> hobophobe: so basically it's about adding "r=ttaubert" at the end of your patches' summaries, uploading them and marking the bug as "checkin-needed" so that someone can check it in. I probably won't have the time to do and watch the tree today, sorry. but someone else will do it if you mark the bug
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# [03:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3b7774cb5be - Luke Wagner - Bug 625199 - Convert one more JSAutoEnterCompartment in ObserverPair.h (r=bustage)
# [03:23] <luke> RyanVM: that should do it
# [03:23] <hobophobe> ttaubert: Okay, great! Just wasn't sure what else was needed before pushing :)
# [03:24] <RyanVM> luke: thanks!
# [03:24] <luke> RyanVM: thanks for the heads up
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# [03:24] <RyanVM> hobophobe: that person's usually me :-P Bonus points if you include a link to a green Try run when you request checkin-needed
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# [03:25] <RyanVM> hobophobe: Otherwise, I'll end up pushing it, but with the current wait times being what they are....
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# [03:31] <RyanVM> hobophobe: <3
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# [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecaff5097b0b - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 583890 - Add visibleLabel attribute/property and tests. r=ttaubert,jaws
# [03:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c2c1987abc4 - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 583890 - Tab Title Abridger module and tests. r=ttaubert
# [03:35] * philor sniffs
# [03:35] <philor> is that a horribly busted tree I smell?
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# [03:37] <philor> by george, I do believe it is
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# [03:38] <philor> closed while we see whether luke is really going to have a startup crash on every single suite on every platform like I think he will
# [03:39] <luke> philor: this seems to be in automation.py
# [03:39] <philor> luke: that's who starts the browser, yeah
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# [03:40] <philor> but automation.py itself better not be crashing in js_GetPropertyHelperInline
# [03:41] <luke> philor: arg, i just try-servered this but that very line was (trivially) changed in response to a review comment
# [03:41] <luke> philor: i can trivially change it back...
# [03:41] <philor> aww, it's not going to run the table, some suites don't crash
# [03:42] <RyanVM> and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you should always push against m-c when pushing to Try
# [03:42] <RyanVM> (and never take trivial changes for granted :P)
# [03:42] <philor> debug-only, too, you're not going to get an impressive total at all
# [03:43] <philor> luke: that's why I "forget" to address review comments
# [03:44] <philor> at least, I think it is, I don't remember for sure
# [03:44] <luke> philor: so, put back the null check or do i backout?
# [03:44] <philor> luke: put it back, the magic phrase is CLOSED TREE with a space
# [03:46] <luke> philor: awesome, will do
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# [03:48] <philor> bholley: bustage down in the land of ancient code
# [03:48] * bholley looks
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# [03:54] <firebot> Check-in:
# [03:54] <bholley> philor: ok, I get the windows one. I need to JS_FRIEND_API IsCrossCompartmentWrapper, which apparently never happened on esr10
# [03:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2834312d80d - Luke Wagner - Bug 625199 - Actually that NULL check was necessary in js_GetPropertyHelperInline (having a non-null pc does not mean currentScript is non-null because currentScript
# [03:54] <firebot> returns null when cx->fp is in another compartment (r=bustage) CLOSED TREE
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# [03:54] <bholley> philor: but I'm stumped by the linux one
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# [03:55] <bholley> philor: builds fine on mac and that function is definitely in jsfriendapi.h
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# [03:56] <philor> bholley: alas, it took away my only tool, by having done a clobber build
# [03:56] <bholley> philor: what tool?
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# [03:58] <luke> philor: sorry for the hassle
# [03:58] <philor> luke: np
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# [03:58] <philor> luke: is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14651885&tree=Mozilla-Inbound (an opt crash) from the same thing?
# [03:58] <bholley> luke: you finished, or still in the thick of it?
# [03:58] <luke> bholley: i'm done
# [03:59] <philor> you hope you're done
# [03:59] <luke> philor: yep
# [03:59] <philor> thx
# [03:59] <luke> philor: you're right, when it rains, it pours
# [03:59] <luke> philor: i'd say its time for a nice maemo-only talos crash
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# [04:00] <bholley> luke: care to hazard a guess as to what's going wrong with my esr10 push?
# [04:00] <bholley> luke: this is the commit: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr10/rev/e2d2ecb490ec
# [04:00] <bholley> luke: and this is the error: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14651878&tree=Mozilla-Esr10#error1
# [04:00] <bholley> luke: I'm totally stumped
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# [04:00] <bholley> luke: it's also only on linux-opt
# [04:00] <bholley> luke: linux-debug seems to be working
# [04:01] <bholley> luke: so somehow, there's something funny going on with jsfriendapi on linux-opt
# [04:01] * luke thinking...
# [04:01] <bholley> luke: (the windows failure is easy)
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# [04:02] <bholley> (android opt too)
# [04:04] <luke> bholley: one guess is that the definition is inside some #ifdef DEBUG
# [04:04] <luke> bholley: i'll have to look at the esr10 src...
# [04:04] <bholley> luke: hm
# [04:04] <bholley> luke: oh! so it is!
# [04:04] <bholley> luke: thanks :-)
# [04:05] <luke> bholley: you bet
# [04:05] <luke> bholley: ah hah, the same source position on trunk isn't in an #ifdef DEBUG
# [04:05] <bholley> luke: yeah :\
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# [04:07] <ewong> drat.. missed him
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# [04:13] <jcranmer> sigh
# [04:13] <jcranmer> there's one thing that's keeping me from running code coverage on try reliably
# [04:13] <jcranmer> bug 762618
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# [04:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20a3b0eeb776 - Bobby Holley - Bug 780370 - Clarify the compartment situation in ChromeObjectWrapper. r=mrbkap
# [04:18] <ewong> mbrubeck: hi. wrt bug #656155, where should this link be?
# [04:18] <ewong> mbrubeck: same place as where the "tryBuild' link is?
# [04:19] <mbrubeck> ewong: Yeah, I think making it the same as on Try would be good
# [04:19] <ewong> mbrubeck: oh actually the question I wanted to ask is whether the code in the tinderboxpushlog is syncronized with that running under vagrant?
# [04:19] <mbrubeck> not sure; I haven't had time to set up vagrant myself.
# [04:20] <mbrubeck> I don't know if it's "live" as you edit files on disk.
# [04:20] <mbrubeck> Should be easy to test, though...
# [04:20] <ewong> mbrubeck: right.. just wanted to ask before I screw up anything.. if it's actually possible to do that.
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# [04:26] <Bas> jcranmer: An unsigned ptrdiff??? Crazy! :)
# [04:27] <Bas> That's totally arbitrary and unuseful, how do you sanely ensure the difference between two ptrs is positive?
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# [04:30] <jcranmer> Bas: it's an unsigned type the same size as ptrdiff_t
# [04:30] <jcranmer> but uintptr_t is probably a much better idea
# [04:31] <Bas> jcranmer: But what's the point of an unsigned -ptrdiff-?
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# [04:31] <jcranmer> I see a few examples where uintptr_t is definitely preferable
# [04:31] <jcranmer> (roundtripping pointer calculations in integer land)
# [04:32] <RyanVM> awesome, so bholley left us with broken windows builds as a going away present
# [04:32] <jcranmer> that's the problem with C
# [04:32] <jcranmer> they give us a half dozen types that are all the same on 98% of systems
# [04:32] <jcranmer> and leave it to others to bicker about when one is more correct than the other
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# [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/281b36542acd - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 784414 - Ensure cache clean file is open before seeking in it. r=michal
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# [04:40] <RyanVM> this is why we can't have nice things
# [04:40] <RyanVM> inbound's closed (again)
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# [04:42] <Callek> RyanVM: reason this time?
# [04:42] <Callek> RyanVM: that makes 3 times today afaik
# [04:42] <RyanVM> linux m-oth orange and windows purple
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# [04:44] <RyanVM> luke: the m-oth orange looks like yours, but I'm waiting to see if one of your follow-ups fixed it
# [04:44] <RyanVM> the windows purple belongs to bholley it appears
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# [04:46] <luke> RyanVM: it would make sense for the second followup to have fixed it
# [04:46] <luke> RyanVM: i guess we'll see pretty soon
# [04:47] <Callek> ewong++
# [04:47] <jesup> blassey: ping
# [04:47] <ewong> Callek ?
# [04:47] <Callek> ewong: webapps.* moving
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# [04:47] <ewong> ahh
# [04:47] <RyanVM> Callek: oh, and android opt M3 looks to be perma-orange as well
# [04:48] <Callek> jesup: he's ET so its 10:40p around here, so doubtful you'll catch him on IRC right now
# [04:48] <ewong> yeah.. that bug..I am capable of doing.. :)
# [04:48] <luke> RyanVM: are you talking about the linux opt m-oth orange? that should definitely be fixed by the followup
# [04:49] <RyanVM> luke: yes
# [04:49] <ewong> wow..with purples and oranges and reds on Inbound.. and m-c not looking too good itself.. don't think it's the right time to push anything
# [04:49] <jesup> callek: I'm east-coast too, and he has an idle of <1min, so it seemed worthwhile. :-)
# [04:49] <mbrubeck> It's times like these when I go work on TBPL bugs instead, ewong. :)
# [04:49] <ewong> just out of curosity.. what's up with m-c's OSX opt?
# [04:49] <Callek> jesup: ahh carry on then :-)
# [04:49] * Callek is ET too
# [04:49] <ewong> mbrubeck: ;)
# [04:50] <blassey> jesup: pong
# [04:50] <ewong> mbrubeck: actually doing that right now..
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# [04:50] <jesup> Hi brad, thanks for answering
# [04:50] <blassey> np
# [04:50] <RyanVM> mounir: I think the android M3 orange is yours, actually
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# [04:51] <RyanVM> and yes, that's only both branches now since it was pushed direct to m-c first
# [04:51] <jesup> I'm trying to look at bug 773847 since Anant is traveling and at conferences the next few weeks, and will be on and off during that time
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# [04:51] <jesup> This is the exception thrown taking a still-image with gUM
# [04:51] <mbrubeck> sorry, I should have looked closer at that M3 on m-c before retriggering and starring
# [04:52] <blassey> jesup: yea, as far as I can tell this is nothing android specific
# [04:52] <jesup> Last I heard, if what I heard was correct, you'd isolated it to the DOM, is that correct?
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# [04:52] <blassey> its just bad xpcom binding I think
# [04:52] <jesup> Ok, cool.
# [04:52] <blassey> I didn't actually spend much time looking
# [04:52] <blassey> I"m off tomorrow
# [04:53] <jesup> Can you give me a hint as to what to look at?
# [04:53] <blassey> so I might acutally have some time to look at it
# [04:53] <ewong> RyanVM out of curiosity..what's up with OSX opt?
# [04:53] <ewong> RyanVM: on m-c
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# [04:53] <ewong> oh..inbound as well
# [04:53] <jesup> blassey: that'd be great. Any invistigation I can do tonight that would help?
# [04:53] <mbrubeck> ewong: What about it? I see a build running, and some pending and running tests...
# [04:53] <jesup> s/i/e/
# [04:53] <RyanVM> i just closed m-c as well
# [04:53] <ewong> mbrubeck: it's orange and red
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# [04:54] <mbrubeck> I don't see any orange/red on https://tbpl.mozilla.org?jobname=Mac
# [04:54] <mbrubeck> do you have noignore enabled maybe?
# [04:54] <blassey> jesup: I can't think of anything in particular actually
# [04:55] <blassey> other than adding log statements along the expected code path
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# [04:55] <jesup> blassey: ok. I'll see if I can gen up a patch that will help with that.
# [04:55] <jesup> blassey: if I do, I'll put it on the bug. (I don't have an android dev setup)
# [04:56] <trevorh> hn
# [04:56] <mbrubeck> OS X 10.5 is not supported on m-c... I'm not sure why those jobs are even still runnning.
# [04:56] <trevorh> fdfd\fmnmnj,c
# [04:56] <luke> RyanVM: woohoo
# [04:57] <trevorh> vdc7dxc''myfedwaweerrteere6,,\pkojsu78yteaaan
# [04:57] <trevorh> zxvb,./.l,kkh
# [04:57] <trevorh> GGRWEWEQWSQWQ*Q2W/W//WW/W/wQwaas
# [04:57] <jesup> Either a cat or a toddler.....
# [04:57] <jesup> I think toddler
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# [04:58] <Callek> or drunk/asleep on keyboard
# [04:58] <jesup> nah, keys too far apart
# [04:58] <Callek> good point
# [04:58] <jesup> Maybe spilled a beer on it
# [05:00] <@dolske> drunk cat.
# [05:00] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: going to go out on a limb and point the finger at https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4bb90f8c6909 for the M3 orange
# [05:01] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: I'm going to back that out, but I won't be up to see if it fixes things
# [05:01] <Callek> dolske: we don't all give our cats vodka like you, :-P
# [05:01] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: I'll try to take a look later tonight
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# [05:01] <RyanVM> it'll need merging to inbound oto
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# [05:02] <RyanVM> I don't have time to look into the windows purple
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# [05:05] <ewong> mbrubeck: interesting.. on my local tbpl instance, it's showing the OSX opt build/tests.. on tbpl.mozilla.org, it isn't..
# [05:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/29ca472bf2d2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 4bb90f8c6909 (bug 756645) due to Android opt M3 orange on a CLOSED TREE.
# [05:05] <ewong> and the starred stuff aren't even duplicated on the tbpl instance..
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# [05:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9d4600374dc - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound on a CLOSED TREE.
# [05:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e509c7472f30 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
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# [05:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29ca472bf2d2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 4bb90f8c6909 (bug 756645) due to Android opt M3 orange on a CLOSED TREE.
# [05:07] <RyanVM> joe: ping
# [05:07] <RyanVM> joe: already beat you to it - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d0696c39e893 - might as well cancel yours given the wait time on Try
# [05:08] <RyanVM> joe: Not to mention that pushing to inbound without Try results isn't recommended anyway ;)
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# [05:12] <RyanVM> joe: I cancelled yours to since the other was further along
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# [05:15] <RyanVM> philor|away: mbrubeck: I'm off to bed. Hopefully M3 is at least fixed now...
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# [05:20] <ewong> mbrubeck: if I've changed my Vagrantfile, wouldn't |hg qrefresh| also pick up those changes?
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# [05:33] <ewong> mbrubeck: nvm.. decided to move the changes to a non-vagrant-used tree, made the patch
# [05:33] <philor> oy. we were all better, and all I did was stop at the grocery store on my way home from work
# [05:33] <ewong> mbrubeck: I'm assuming you're ok with the "review"? (who is the owner of Tinderboxpushlog?)
# [05:34] <KWierso|Home> philor: that'll teach you!
# [05:34] <philor> yeah, I've got a perfectly good phone, I should have been watching tbpl on it
# [05:35] <nthomas> don't tbpl and drive
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# [05:37] <aja> clean-up on aisle three!
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# [05:38] <philor> so where are we with Windows?
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# [05:41] <philor> don't all answer at once
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# [05:44] <philor> well, one of bholley's bugs which I can access has a linked try push, though it's so old tbpl can no longer load it
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# [05:45] <philor> is it after midnight in Europe yet, so he's on vacation and I can just back out everything he landed?
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# [05:47] <jcranmer> sigh
# [05:48] <jcranmer> for some reason
# [05:48] <jcranmer> FTP connections on my computer seem to hang
# [05:49] <heycam> PASV
# [05:49] <jcranmer> I am using PASV
# [05:49] <heycam> ok :)
# [05:49] <jcranmer> I've got the bloody thing open in wireshark
# [05:49] <jcranmer> thing sends the PASV command, sends the NLST
# [05:50] <jcranmer> and then for some reason, it stops TCP ack'ing stuff
# [05:50] <heycam> I must say it's been a while since I've used an actual ftp client
# [05:50] <philor> somebody sg: please cc me on 774633 even though I don't expect it will have a link to a try push that will tell me anything
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# [05:50] <aja> jcranmer sending keepalive's?
# [05:51] <Callek> philor: done
# [05:51] * aja ran into that prob a couplda weeks ago
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# [05:51] <philor> thx
# [05:53] <jcranmer> aja: let me pastebin the wireshark log
# [05:53] <jcranmer> uh, can't pastebin it apparently
# [05:53] <philor> and a big shout of thanks to everyone who has persuaded developers to restrict their try pushes!
# [05:54] <aja> just as well :)
# [05:54] <philor> if not for you, we'd have much shorter tree closures!
# [05:54] <jcranmer> but basically
# [05:54] <jcranmer> after the PASV command
# [05:54] <jcranmer> I get the response
# [05:54] <philor> thanks for the misery!
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# [05:54] <Callek> shorter tree closures or longer wait times? :-P
# [05:54] <philor> human resources are worthless, it's machine resources that count!
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# [05:55] <jcranmer> the 227 Entering passive mode gets retransmitted and then acked
# [05:55] <jcranmer> I do the LIST
# [05:55] <jcranmer> and then the 150 Here comes the directory listing. never gets ack'd
# [05:55] <aja> jcranmer: just saying that i checked the keepalive box in filezilla, and fixed similar prob for me
# [05:56] <jcranmer> hmm
# [05:56] <jcranmer> interestingly enough
# [05:56] <philor> if anyone is waiting to push to inbound, don't count on it for six hours or so
# [05:56] <jcranmer> it seems the sequence numbers are off by one
# [05:56] <aja> yikes
# [05:58] <jcranmer> hmm
# [05:58] <jcranmer> it might be a VM networking issue
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# [05:59] <jcranmer> yes, the same script works elsewhere, including Windows on my laptop
# [05:59] <jcranmer> but not my VM
# [06:00] <@dolske> filewall anywhere in between?
# [06:00] <@dolske> for such a simple protocol lots of them manage to screw it up
# [06:00] <jcranmer> well, it works on my laptop but not the VM on my laptop
# [06:00] <@dolske> neat
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# [06:01] <philor> and who, pray tell, is crashing in IncrementalCollectSlice?
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# [06:03] <philor> luke: still up?
# [06:05] <philor> eh, js::baseops::GetProperty above your last fix
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# [06:08] <jcranmer> okay, so the NAT networking driver on my VM is broken
# [06:08] <jcranmer> good to know
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# [06:21] <philor> grr, why am I getting conflicts backing out luke?
# [06:21] <philor> did bz touch some of the same stuff?
# [06:22] <ewong> er.. try is backlogged 24hrs+, inbound is 6hrs..
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# [06:25] <philor> curses
# [06:25] <philor> even a3b7774cb5be:ea32388d45a8 doesn't want to back out
# [06:26] <philor> mbrubeck: how's your evening going?
# [06:26] <mbrubeck> yo
# [06:27] <philor> I suck at backout, luke needs to come out but I can't persuade him to, and if I start merging stuff I'll break it even worse
# [06:27] <mbrubeck> I'll give it a try.
# [06:28] <philor> somebody else does too, either bholley, or bholley clear back to the last time you fixed the tree, but with luke up top I figured I'd start there
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# [06:28] <Callek> ewong: tell all the other contributors to go away
# [06:29] <Callek> ewong: the wait times won't be that bad
# [06:29] <Callek> :-)
# [06:29] <ewong> Callek heh..
# [06:29] <philor> crap, am I confused and luke doesn't need to come out?
# [06:29] <ewong> can't push anyway..both trees are closed
# [06:30] <philor> mbrubeck: I suck at more than backout, now I'm failing to back out the wrong thing
# [06:30] <mbrubeck> looks like Android M3 is still on its way to timing out too
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# [06:33] <philor> oh, ffs, I'd already forgotten that he had two followups, that's why I kept confusing myself, both in what I was backing out and in where I thought there was still bustage
# [06:34] <philor> so just the Windows thing to deal with
# [06:34] <mbrubeck> And M3 went green!
# [06:37] <philor> great, bholley refuses to be backed out too, I'm starting to get that busted repo feeling
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# [06:38] <mbrubeck> bholley has two pushes; maybe both need to come out?
# [06:38] <philor> could be
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# [06:40] <philor> or revert -r 7fb25861ffd9, that was a good one
# [06:40] <philor> nope, still no joy
# [06:40] <mbrubeck> Yeah, I'm proud of that one.
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# [06:41] <philor> usually I'm joking about revert
# [06:41] <philor> not so much tonight
# [06:41] <mbrubeck> I have a bholley backout queued up
# [06:41] <philor> \o/
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# [06:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/deeadcce3f64 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 670c8a2695b3 (bug 771354), 134557d57e6e 4ad52e488977 (bug 774607), and...
# [06:47] <mbrubeck> deead, sweet
# [06:48] <ewong> mbrubeck: ping
# [06:51] <mbrubeck> ewong: pong
# [06:51] <ewong> mbrubeck: might you have time to have a skim my patch for bug #656155?
# [06:52] <ewong> s/to have a//
# [06:52] <mbrubeck> yeah
# [06:52] <ewong> locally it works.. but I dunno if that's the right effect..
# [06:53] <mbrubeck> anyone around with sg access want to tell bug 774633 that it's been backed out?
# [06:53] <philor> yeah, I'll get it, I got myself cc'ed earlier
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# [06:58] <philor> mbrubeck: well, that didn't go too well, the backout doesn't build
# [06:58] <philor> because of luke
# [06:59] * @bz mutters about "is not" being a bizarre construct in python
# [07:00] <markh> is not!
# [07:00] <markh> better than "not is" :)
# [07:00] <heycam> if x is too None: ...
# [07:00] <johns> python should also accept isn't
# [07:01] <markh> johns: ++!
# [07:01] <markh> heycam: you back in your house? :)
# [07:01] <johns> Optionally "ain't"
# [07:01] <@bz> well, so
# [07:01] <heycam> markh, yes thanks, after my trip to the city to pick up the other set of keys :)
# [07:01] <@bz> "5 is not None" is True
# [07:01] <@bz> but "not None" is True
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# [07:01] <@bz> and "5 is True" is False
# [07:02] <markh> heycam: you need a closer hiding place for your spare set ;)
# [07:02] <@bz> so it's all kinda funky. ;)
# [07:02] <@bz> Still better than writing not 5 is None
# [07:02] <heycam> markh, yes :) (well that other set was my partner's, but I'm now thinking where I can hide some spares close by)
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# [07:04] <cjones> is anyone waiting to back more stuff out of m-c?
# [07:06] <johns> "Windows purple" strikes me as a hilarious tree closure message
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# [07:09] <@bz> Bugzilla diff?
# [07:09] <@bz> fails again
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# [07:09] <glob> bz, url?
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# [07:12] <luke_laptop> mbrubeck, philor: those compile errors aren't too hard to fix, in case you need any help
# [07:12] <@bz> glob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?oldid=654068&action=interdiff&newid=654837&headers=1
# [07:13] <philor> luke_laptop: I certainly would, dunno whether mbrubeck does, or has sensibly gone to bed
# [07:13] <luke_laptop> (no need to back out dummy frame patch...)
# [07:13] <glob> bz, thanks (adds to the pile)
# [07:13] <philor> or is rage-reverting :)
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# [07:13] <luke_laptop> philor: when it rains it pours :)
# [07:14] <mbrubeck> luke_laptop: please feel free to fix my bustage...
# [07:14] <luke_laptop> mbrubeck: will do, just updating m-i on my laptop
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# [07:15] <cjones> i don't know what backouts may be pending, but i'm sitting on another for m-c
# [07:15] <cjones> building to confirm merge
# [07:15] <@bz> glob: thanks!
# [07:16] <philor> cjones: will it fix the rc? I'd love to see that go away without me filing it
# [07:16] <cjones> philor, highly unlikely to fix it, no
# [07:17] <philor> "Back out mobile/, r=sparky"
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# [07:20] <mbrubeck> I watched about half of Disney's "John Carter" tonight, and now even inbound doesn't look so terrible.
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# [07:22] <philor> ah, a timeout, how nice
# [07:22] <@roc> that movie was great
# [07:22] <philor> in the exact same place the backout was supposed to fix
# [07:23] <jcranmer> okay
# [07:23] <jcranmer> my automation of code coverage scripts should be at the point now
# [07:23] <@smaug> (too tired to debug this leak...sorry khuey|away, you'll need to wait until tomorrow.)
# [07:23] <jcranmer> where I can push to try, edit a line in a file to point to the correct revision
# [07:23] <philor> once again, revert -r 7fb25861ffd9
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# [07:24] <jcranmer> hit a button
# [07:24] <jcranmer> write a few bash for loops
# [07:24] <jcranmer> download a file
# [07:24] <jcranmer> wait several hours
# [07:24] <luke_laptop> arg, forgot the bug #
# [07:24] <mbrubeck> I wonder how much havoc reverting across the merges would cause...
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# [07:25] <jcranmer> and get the results up to the point where I have to run some filtering script
# [07:25] <jcranmer> and then combine the files manually and generate the important output
# [07:25] * jcranmer pauses
# [07:26] <mbrubeck> So I wonder if we need to revert the rest of mounir's push to fix M3.
# [07:26] <luke_laptop> there we go
# [07:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1fb44a75e0d - Luke Wagner - Fix backout to account for infallible-JSAutoCompartment change on a CLOSED TREE (no bug, r=bustage)
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# [07:26] <jcranmer> in other words, all I've done so far is automate downloading the files and running one of the commands that I need to run that requires tweaking the command line 5 times
# [07:26] <cjones> mbrubeck, i'm reverting most of the rest of it
# [07:26] <cjones> but on m-c
# [07:27] <mbrubeck> okay
# [07:27] <mbrubeck> so that answers that. :P
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# [07:28] <jcranmer> reimplement lcov -e in ccov and then automate that step
# [07:28] <philor> cjones: go ahead, then, CLOSED TREE
# [07:29] <philor> I have absolutely zero desire to open m-c
# [07:29] <jcranmer> and then automate running unpack-gcda.sh on all of the tests
# [07:29] <philor> I'm really starting to long for the good old days when we had 9 month trunk closures before releases
# [07:30] <philor> instead of "hey, it's three days before an uplift, I should throw untested shit at the tree and go on vacation!"
# [07:30] <mbrubeck> metering
# [07:30] <jcranmer> add a parameter
# [07:30] <mbrubeck> everyone loves metering
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# [07:30] <mounir> mbrubeck: why do you want to backout anything else?
# [07:30] <jcranmer> and I'll be down to running three comands after playing the rebase game
# [07:31] <philor> mounir: because android m3 hung in the same place on the merge to inbound, so maybe the merge was busted, or maybe it was pure luck that one was green on m-c
# [07:31] <mbrubeck> mounir: We're still seeing the same M3 timeout after bug 756645 was backed out, but intermittently now...
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# [07:31] <ewong> mbrubeck: thanks for the review.. one question. "this.treeInfo.isTry" is giving me a "this" is undefined in the error console
# [07:31] <mounir> fuck Android's tests
# [07:32] <mounir> that output don't even give any information
# [07:32] <mounir> and those tests were so often oranges that no one cares now
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# [07:32] <philor> you should fork Gecko, look how well it worked for Aviary
# [07:33] <mounir> 3329 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/indexedDB/test/test_advance.html | Got correct object - 26 should equal 26
# [07:33] <mounir> 3330 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/ind
# [07:33] <mounir> command timed out: 2400 seconds without output, killing pid 13167
# [07:33] <mounir> process killed by signal 9
# [07:33] <mounir> program finished with exit code -1
# [07:33] <mounir> how can someone find what is wrong based on *that*
# [07:33] <@bz> mounir++
# [07:33] <@bz> mounir: but it's so nicely buffered!
# [07:33] <@bz> mounir: fflush, what fflush?
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# [07:34] <mbrubeck> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29ca472bf2d2#l1.12 does not seem to have made it into https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/b9d4600374dc/dom/indexedDB/IDBFactory.cpp#l210
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# [07:39] <darktrojan> I wrote a thing http://hg.mozilla.org/users/geoff_darktrojan.net/mozilla-central-patches/file/61bb98fef749/xpcfast
# [07:39] <darktrojan> 40% improvement on addons manager xpcshell test times
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# [07:40] <heycam> parallellised tests?
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# [07:41] <darktrojan> yus
# [07:41] <heycam> land the thing
# [07:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/008a58e4a338 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 4bb90f8c6909 (bug 756645) due to Android opt M3 orange on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [07:41] <mbrubeck> not sure what was up with that merge, but it looks like the backout didn't actually make it across
# [07:41] <mbrubeck> so I re-landed it
# [07:41] <mbrubeck> and the rest of mounir's patches are safe for now. :/
# [07:42] <mounir> mbrubeck: cjones is going to backout them
# [07:42] <mbrubeck> from me, anyway. :|
# [07:42] <darktrojan> might push it to try this weekend, see what I can break
# [07:42] <KWierso|Home> only our hearts
# [07:42] <darktrojan> oh you
# [07:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6bd825157e6c - Chris Jones - Back out bug 777072, bug 619236, and bug 784878
# [07:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eccef9b3f1f1 - Chris Jones - No bug: Merge backout on a CLOSED TREE r=bustage
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# [07:46] <mbrubeck> I think we can re-open m-c
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# [07:51] <ewong> mbrubeck patch up for review.. at your review convenience.. :)
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# [08:07] <ewong> so from reading bug #713419, https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j6tkvqkuf9elual8l2tbuk2umk%40group.calendar.google.com is not a valid schedule?
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# [08:24] <Callek> ewong: technically its both still valid and unused all at the same time
# [08:24] <Callek> ewong: we never officially killed it off, but when we got inbound going we have had people pay attention to the tree sooooo well that it negated the reason for random people to consider it their days work to watch/sheriff the tree
# [08:25] <Callek> too much context switching made some people do it bad, or miss stuff, etc.
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# [08:25] <Callek> along with the now, near-constant pruning the tree needs ;-)
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# [08:27] <ewong> ok.. so the concept of sheriffs is pretty much obsolete?
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# [08:36] <philor> I think self-serve's implementation of priority might be just as cruel as me
# [08:37] <philor> "oh, you think that's important, do you? well, I'll just get to that after I do every single other job which uses the same slaves, how's that suit you, Mr. Impatient?"
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# [08:48] <Callek> philor: huh, +1 prior *does* work
# [08:48] <Callek> it just only works within the base prior of that set, aiui
# [08:49] <Callek> such that if you +1 a try job 6 time, you still won't bump ahead of m-c
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# [08:49] <philor> I set it on the Android M3 on the tip of inbound, both because I needed it most on that push, and because I needed that one rather than the one on the push before it
# [08:50] <philor> as a result, we scheduled every single test except M3 on the tip push, and every single test except M3 on the one before
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# [08:51] <philor> now we're into the part where you can't tell what's what on tbpl, but before some things started finishing and disappearing, that's what we had
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# [08:52] <Callek> philor: possible an earlier android JOB finished first, and we coalasced M3 :/
# [08:53] <Callek> such that it just reports wrongly
# [08:53] <Callek> or something
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# [09:50] <ewong> philor ping
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# [09:51] <Ms2ger> ewong, he doesn't like you ;)
# [09:52] <ewong> Ms2ger: I noticed.. :(
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# [09:52] <ewong> ooh.. reminds me of "I don't like you too!" from Star Wars :)
# [09:53] <ewong> any sheriffs around?
# [09:53] <Ms2ger> I guess you could try me
# [09:53] <ewong> Ms2ger: are you able to modify https://sheriffs.mozilla.org ?
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# [09:56] <Ms2ger> ewong, however, if you need the current sheriff duty...
# [09:56] <Ms2ger> data:text/plain;charset=utf-8;base64,UGFjaWZpYyBkYXl0aW1lOiBwaGlsb3INCkV1cm9wZWFuIGRheXRpbWU6IGVkbW9ybGV5
# [09:57] <ewong> Ms2ger: where's that from?
# [09:57] <Ms2ger> My head
# [09:57] <ewong> oh
# [09:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e106316f41e4 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 778582 - Part 2. r=lucasr f=mfinkle
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3559149341e0 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 778582 - Part 5. r=mfinkle
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/950379788e33 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 778582 - Part 1. r=lucasr
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee35e4c5e26c - Brian Nicholson - Bug 778582 - Part 4. r=lucasr
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/726f7f71fd45 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 778582 - Part 3. r=mfinkle
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# [10:08] <ewong> edmorley: ping
# [10:08] <edmorley> ewong: hi :-)
# [10:08] <ewong> edmorley: hi.. busy?
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# [10:09] <edmorley> ewong: I've got time to help (with the TBPL patch yeah?) :-)
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# [10:09] <ewong> edmorley: yeah.. though it's for a different tbpl issue.. do you have access to https://sheriffs.mozilla.org/ ?
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# [10:10] <ewong> edmorley I do have a patch up for mbrubeck's review for bug #656155
# [10:10] <edmorley> ewong: ish
# [10:10] <edmorley> ewong: but login hasn't worked for a while and it has kinda been put on hold
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# [10:11] <ewong> edmorley: ah.. so I guess looking at bug #713419 might not be a good idea?
# [10:11] <edmorley> ewong: were you thinking of switching the google calendar parts to it?
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# [10:12] <ewong> edmorley: sorta yeah. I dunno if the releng buildduty calendar is right..but according to that bug, the google calendar isn't "update"
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# [10:13] <edmorley> ewong: I think we should strip out (for now) at least the sheriff duty row, since it no longer is relevant (and causes confusion/unnecessary google calendar calls)
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# [10:14] <edmorley> perhaps ask in #build (might be a bit early for them now though) if the buildduty row is still accurate
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# [10:14] <ewong> ok..
# [10:14] <edmorley> ewong: we can always add a sheriffduty row back in once sheriffs.m.o becomes used
# [10:15] <edmorley> alternatively, you can change the sheriffduty link to the inbound sheriffs wiki page (though again, the list of people is a bit out of date)
# [10:16] <ewong> edmorley: which do you prefer?
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# [10:17] <edmorley> ewong: I've post in the bug and CC some sheriffs to see what their preference is
# [10:17] <ewong> edmorley: ok. thanks!
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# [10:19] <glazou> bonjour
# [10:19] <KWierso|Home> and there's my cue...
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# [10:26] <ewong> edmorley: sorry.. did you mean you posted a comment or just added the CCs?
# [10:26] <edmorley> ewong: I will in a sec, just editing the wiki first
# [10:26] <ewong> ahh ok..
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# [10:34] <NeilAway> dholbert: bug 785017 bonus: you're no longer copying the substring :-)
# [10:34] <edmorley> ewong: done
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# [10:35] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: nice data: URL ;-)
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# [10:43] <ewong> interesting.. i always thought the sheriff list was a lot larger than that.
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# [10:49] <edmorley> ewong: welcome to mozilla... ;-)
# [10:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, :)
# [10:51] <edmorley> ewong: regarding that bug, I'd be inclined to wait until we have a few more responses (whilst also confirming with #build that the buildduty field is still used [it most likely is still up to date looking at it])
# [10:51] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
# [10:51] <Ms2ger> Good morning, edmorley :)
# [10:51] <ewong> edmorley: yeah.. I'll do that.
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# [11:08] <edmorley> ewong: btw I've just had a skim through all of the open TBPL bugs
# [11:08] <edmorley> ewong: the ones that I would most like + (at least for many of these) shouldn't be too much of a nightmare
# [11:08] <edmorley> ewong: are: https://bugzil.la/784670,773838,769446,764883,764864,759189,749110,748855,748848,748839,748833,747440,736085,726514,687143,683833,682917
# [11:09] <ewong> edmorley: heh..funny you should mention that.. was doing the same thing.. though I'm looking at bug #701548, but dunno if I"m able to do it
# [11:09] <edmorley> so if there was anything in there that appealed :-)
# [11:09] <ewong> cool!
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# [11:10] <edmorley> ewong: I'd just commented on bug 701548, I think we might need to hold off until self-serve changes are made
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# [11:11] <ewong> ah.. yeah.. was thinking of how I can have something like that without being abused...
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# [11:12] <ewong> well was thinking rather how to get the user to log on first.. since it requires a LDAP pass in order to do that kinda prioritizing..
# [11:12] <Ms2ger> edmorley, does treestatus also have non-HTML output?
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# [11:16] <ewong> edmorley: right.. but afaik, loading tbpl, and then clicking on a pending test, should display the priority buttons + / -.. but that needs access..
# [11:16] <edmorley> ewong: but it would require discussions with catlee / #build / ?, as to whether it was (a) acceptable to restrict access [I think it is], (b) who to have on the list, (c) should the list be hardcoded [like for bits of the clobberer] or do we need to make a 'manage users' UI as well
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# [11:17] <edmorley> ewong: oh ok, I was thinking we display them all the time (but then thinking about it, that may just annoy people, especially when they aren't allowed permissions)
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# [11:18] <ewong> edmorley: exactly..
# [11:18] <ewong> so with that bug.. I"m at a dead end until something comes up.. ;)
# [11:20] <edmorley> ewong: tbh, we don't use the priority UI much (and the plus/minus is annoying too), so this bug is something that can quite happily sit for another year really :-)
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# [11:20] <ewong> edmorley: heh.. ok. I'll have a look at the other bugs that you listed.
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# [11:21] <darktrojan> who changed all the files
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# [11:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f8728a398a9 - Jonathan Kew - bug 784837 - call SetPrimaryFrame earlier during nsSubDocumentFrame::Init. r=roc
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# [12:14] <edmorley> booo (Can't contact the database server: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 110 (generic-rw-zeus.db.phx1.mozilla.com))
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# [12:16] <edmorley> network issues? tbpl not loading properly either
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# [12:19] <heycam> not loading for me either
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# [12:20] <Standard8> IT is on it
# [12:20] <edmorley> the first error was for wiki.m.o
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# [12:20] <Ms2ger> Close all the trees! :)
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# [12:20] <heycam> tbpl should really be listed on status.mozilla.com
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# [12:21] <Ms2ger> heycam, hah, then it would look like someone owned it
# [12:21] <Standard8> "should be recovering"
# [12:21] <Standard8> edmorley: ^^^
# [12:21] <edmorley> heycam: agree (had noticed the same a few miutes ago and added to my list of things to file bugs for :-))
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# [12:22] <heycam> dinner time!
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# [12:22] <NeilAway> darktrojan: you need to delete all the \.deps/[^.]+\.pp files from your objdir
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# [12:23] <darktrojan> it's finished now :P
# [12:24] <NeilAway> darktrojan: yeah, but if you have a mix of those old .pp and the new .o.pp files then you'll keep getting the problem
# [12:25] <darktrojan> they're no longer used?
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# [12:27] <edmorley> NeilAway: the rebuild problem?
# [12:28] <glandium> NeilAway: i'm planning to fix this
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# [12:33] <darktrojan> so much for no-op
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# [12:38] <Ms2ger> darktrojan, it's only five minutes...
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# [12:39] <darktrojan> Ms2ger, used to be, that seems to be taking ages now too
# [12:39] <darktrojan> I did
# [12:39] <NeilAway> glandium: I assume the trick is to only read the .pp files for the targets that you're trying to make
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# [12:40] <glandium> NeilAway: yeah
# [12:41] <darktrojan> real 10m30.917s
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# [12:56] <NeilAway> anyone know an easy way to change a cookie that a site has stored? (I don't want to delete it, just change its value)
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# [13:05] <nigelb> darktrojan: mozillamemes.tumblr.com. Go. Post.
# [13:05] <darktrojan> no
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# [13:08] <NeilAway> ... but cookie editor extensions are not compatible ...
# [13:08] <NeilAway> darktrojan: I guess it gets locked exclusively though?
# [13:08] <darktrojan> probably
# [13:09] <darktrojan> I was joking
# [13:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a485ff904954 - Chris Lord - Bug 781516 - Remove DisplayItemDataEntry.mIsMergedFrame. r=roc
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# [13:16] <edmorley> glandium: thoughts about https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14652704&tree=Firefox#error0 ?
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# [14:04] <Ms2ger> edmorley++
# [14:04] <Ms2ger> mounir--
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# [14:05] <kaie> I had an urge to be creative: http://n-2.org/
# [14:05] <kaie> now nspr and nss have a logo :)
# [14:06] <edmorley> Ms2ger: :-)
# [14:06] <Ms2ger> :)
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# [14:06] <edmorley> kaie: shouldn't the person running be doing to in the opposite direction to NSS ? :-)
# [14:06] <edmorley> s/to/so/
# [14:06] <kaie> edmorley, why?
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# [14:07] <edmorley> kaie: just the obligatory NSPR/NSS joke :-)
# [14:08] <kaie> ok :)
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# [14:08] <edmorley> speaking of which, any more news on shifting either from CVS?
# [14:08] <@ted> i wonder how much work it'd be to have a builder that built mozilla-central, but pulled in HEAD NSPR/NSS
# [14:09] <kaie> that would be a good idea
# [14:09] <kaie> a good thing to have
# [14:10] <NeilAway> that would be a nightmare for nss, because of where psm lives
# [14:11] <kaie> NeilAway, psm lives? psm is part of mozilla
# [14:11] <NeilAway> well, I guess you could manually construct the srcdir from the appropriate checkouts
# [14:12] <kaie> ted, we are still working for it/releng to assign a contact person to work with the nspr/nss team to drive forward a migration project. we might eventually have nspr/nss in hg - but it's a migration project that hasn't started
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# [14:12] <kaie> s/working for/waiting for/
# [14:12] <kaie> the ball is in joduinn's hands
# [14:13] <@ted> kaie: i would love to have NSPR/NSS in hg
# [14:13] <NeilAway> kaie: well, security/ is nss, except for security/manager which is psm
# [14:13] <@ted> i asked wtc about moving NSPR to hg a while ago
# [14:13] <@ted> anything but CVS :)
# [14:14] <kaie> NeilAway, ok. yeah, any attempt to do what ted proposed would require to fiddle with a local directory and merge multiple sources
# [14:14] <@ted> kaie: it probably wouldn't be *too* bad, since we have client.py in the tree
# [14:14] <@ted> it'd just be a normal build, but with an extra step after checkout of running client.py to pull HEAD NSPR/NSS
# [14:14] <@ted> kaie: anyway, this would have helped us find bug 785208 right away
# [14:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e6948f52101 - Yury - Bug 776208 - Plugin preview overlay test. r=jaws
# [14:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e80dea0213a0 - Yury - Bug 776208 - Plugin preview overlay. r=johns,jaws,margaret sr=joshmoz
# [14:16] <NeilAway> ted: you were lucky that wasn't a jemalloc build
# [14:17] <@ted> NeilAway: would have been random heap corruption then?
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# [14:24] <@ted> (this was a local debug build)
# [14:24] <Ms2ger> ted, kaie, can we get a bug filed for those builds? :)
# [14:25] <@ted> that behavior of the debug CRT assertion reentering the event loop is sadmaking though
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# [14:26] <@ted> bc has a patch to turn CRT assertions into console text
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# [14:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e5c7b2f7d61 - Ed Morley - Backout 9c2c1987abc4 & ecaff5097b0b (bug 583890) for intermittent failures in browser_bug583890.js
# [14:28] <Ms2ger> edmorley, aaand there we go again :)
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# [14:34] <NeilAway> ted: dunno, didn't look at the mozconfigs
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# [14:35] <NeilAway> ted: the worst bit about those reentering asserts is they enter the event loop with various lock(s) held :s
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# [15:25] <edmorley> bhearsum: thank you :-)
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# [15:25] <bhearsum> edmorley: np
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# [15:32] <past> does anyone know why this doesn't work in Windows? env TEST_PATH=toolkit/devtools/debugger/tests/unit/ python -OO ../build/pymake/make.py xpcshell-tests
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# [15:32] <past> or any path deeper than toolkit/ ?
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# [15:34] <past> where "doesn't work" == "doesn't find any tests"
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# [15:49] <Ms2ger> News at 10
# [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1ff5b12fdf2 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 772060 - Part 1: Implement accessibilityArrayAttributeCount for mozPaneAccessible. r=surkov,tbsaunde
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# [15:51] <jfkthame> gerv: care to back out your push, by any chance?
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# [15:51] <gerv> jfkthame: <sigh> Did I break stuff?
# [15:51] <Ms2ger> I'll do it
# [15:51] <edmorley> Ms2ger: started, or want me to>
# [15:52] <edmorley> s/>/?/
# [15:52] <gerv> Ms2ger, edmorley: Thank you.
# [15:52] <jfkthame> gerv: looks like there's a file missing, or else misnamed in the manifest or something
# [15:52] <gerv> I'll leave it to the experts :-)
# [15:52] <Ms2ger> Started
# [15:52] <gerv> Seems like it.
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# [15:52] <bhearsum> hey folks
# [15:53] <bhearsum> any errors you see related to the signing server are transient, rebuilds will be fine
# [15:53] <Ms2ger> Hi bhearsum
# [15:53] <Ms2ger> Yay
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# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/863a436af29c - Eitan Isaacson - Revert "Bug 782320 - Use names for pushbuttons. r=davidb"
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# [16:08] <NeilAway> past: I think you run xpcshell tests from the subdir
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# [16:10] <past> NeilAway: thank you, that works
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# [16:23] <@ted> NeilAway: yeah, that'd probably be why it deadlocks on me :-(
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# [16:38] <NeilAway> ted: yeah, what tends to happen is that thread A crashes the CRT holding lock A. Thread B hold lock B, but needs lock A. Then the CRT dialog re-enters the event loop and tries to acquire lock B :-(
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# [16:39] <@ted> this is all the same thread, AFAICT
# [16:39] <@ted> maybe it's not deadlocked, i can't really tell
# [16:40] <@ted> it's stuck in _NtUserWaitMessage under nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent
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# [16:47] <Ms2ger> sid0++
# [16:49] <hub> struggled with mercurial again
# [16:50] <Mossop> Could be worse, you could be trying to use git ;)
# [16:50] <hub> I would have no problem with that
# [16:50] <hub> actually I wouldn't have struggled
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# [17:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7055bd788274 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 668469 - Don't ignore focusable elements. r=surkov
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# [17:14] <jesup> mounir: ping
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# [17:14] <mounir> jesup: pong
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# [17:19] <jesup> mounir: Got a question about popupblockers and getUserMedia - Bug 773847
# [17:19] <jesup> blassey and I are looking at why it regressed from 15 to 16 on Android, and it's kicking out after getPopupControlState()
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# [17:22] <jesup> mounir: you would seem to know something about it (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738528#c45; comment 76 from jst may be relevant too). There were a lot of changes when desktop getUserMedia support (with audio and video capture) landed; we're trying to figure out why that regressed still-image on android. Any idea why this might be failing? Anything we can check, or...
# [17:22] <jesup> ...things to look for?
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# [17:22] <jesup> mounir: (we've been chatting in #media)
# [17:24] <mounir> jesup: wil have a look after breakfast
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# [17:25] <edmorley> Standard8: m-c busted on your push?
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# [17:26] <Standard8> edmorley: yeah, I was waiting on the result of that second build
# [17:26] <Standard8> hmm
# [17:26] <Standard8> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14670272&tree=Firefox ?
# [17:26] <Standard8> oh
# [17:27] <Standard8> somehow I forgot to include linux64 in my try build :-(
# [17:27] <jesup> mounir: thanks!
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# [17:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1756976e61d - Chris Lord - Bug 785333 - Keep track of merged frames with all display items. r=roc
# [17:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79345542f853 - Chris Lord - Bug 785333 - Store container layers against merged frames. r=roc
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# [17:28] <Standard8> hmm, other platforms are fine
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# [17:29] <Standard8> edmorley: ok, I'm backing out the linux-affecting part of that patch
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# [17:30] <edmorley> Standard8: thank you :-)
# [17:30] <Standard8> no idea why that broke
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# [17:33] <Standard8> bah
# [17:33] <Standard8> jmaher: you just pushed against a busted tree
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# [17:34] <jmaher> ack
# [17:34] <Standard8> (well semi-busted)
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# [17:34] <jmaher> oh, the linux64
# [17:34] <philor> cute, the DOM1 tests we pointlessly run as todos even though nobody wants to fix them will eat timeout errors too, leading to "INFO expected error in todo testcase | 4 test timeouts, giving up."
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# [17:34] <philor> wonder whether that would be green on non-Windows
# [17:34] <Standard8> yeah, shouldn't matter too much, but I was just pushing the bustage fix for tht
# [17:35] <jmaher> philor: oh? when we hit the 4 test timeout, we end up skipping a lot of tests, not good
# [17:35] <jmaher> Standard8: want me to back out?
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# [17:35] <jmaher> looks like you pushed already
# [17:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85634e93f08d - Mark Banner - Backout part of the follow-up to bug 785102 for causing unexpected segfaults on the Linux 64 bit builds. r=bustage-fix
# [17:36] <Standard8> jmaher: I think you'll probably be fine
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# [18:04] <espindola> how do I run dromaeo locally? If I just point firefox to the local dep/web/index.html
# [18:04] <espindola> every test freezes on "loading..."
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# [18:06] <overholt> dietrich, is the 9 AM presentation happening in Mountain View?
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# [18:08] <fabrice> overholt: also, we have an evacuation drill at 10am - should we move the triage at 11am?
# [18:08] <overholt> fabrice, I've got something else at 11:30 ... I was hoping the evacuation wouldn't take too long
# [18:09] <fabrice> overholt: I hope so also, so maybe just warn people that we'll start a bit late
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# [18:09] <overholt> fabrice, will do
# [18:10] <overholt> fabrice, actually, I forgot that Matt Brandt already did that
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# [18:11] <edmorley> khuey: please can you uplift 766793 to aurora
# [18:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6a6f205e7570 - Olli Pettay - Bug 785228 - nsGlobalWindow is described twice during traverse, r=mccr8
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# [18:11] <overholt> dietrich, it is not :)
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# [18:28] <@smaug> dzbarsky: sorry, I didn't mention that flushing-may-destroy-worlds problem earlier
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# [18:34] <dzbarsky> smaug: so if the frame is destroyed during the flush, we just keep the target as what it was?
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# [18:35] <@smaug> dzbarsky: hmm, good question...
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# [18:35] <@smaug> we may not have any sane target in that case
# [18:35] <@smaug> dzbarsky: so the best approach would be to push the flush even higher up
# [18:36] <@smaug> but...
# [18:36] <@smaug> flushing chrome shell doesn't flush content shell IIRC...
# [18:36] <@smaug> and widget level code would flush only chrome yet event might be targeted to content...
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# [18:37] <dzbarsky> smaug: I thought content doesn't flush chrome, but chrome flushes content
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# [18:38] <dzbarsky> smaug: at least for now. I recall bz saying that recently
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# [18:38] <@smaug> dzbarsky: I think he said the opposite yesterday :)
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# [18:40] <@smaug> and now bz hides
# [18:40] <@smaug> glob|away: ping
# [18:41] <@smaug> glob|away: do you think you could log #content
# [18:41] <kaie> what are my powers as a module owner in a dispute? am I allowed to land a patch, if I believe the patch is best for everyone, against everyone's opinion, if I find anyone that gives me r+ ?
# [18:42] <Ms2ger> As a module owner, you can get review from whoever you want, AIUI
# [18:43] <kaie> it has never been necessary to go that far during the previous 10 years where I've been module owner of PSM, but the drama about ssl error reporting drives me insane, and I must land a solution prior to monday, to make sure that thunderbird is fine
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# [18:45] <kaie> I'll now prepare a patch that implements what makes sense to me, get a r+ and land it. that patch will bring back the error prompts on ssl failures. I will provide a very simple patch that firefox can apply to opt-out, and no such prompts will ever be shown
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# [18:45] <WG9s> kaie: i think that is within your pervue as module owner, but you really have to be able to back up your position.
# [18:45] <@smaug> dzbarsky: do you think you could ask bz
# [18:45] <kaie> smaug, has voted against my strategy, too
# [18:45] <kaie> bz
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# [18:45] <dzbarsky> smaug: yeah, I will when he comes back
# [18:45] <Ms2ger> No family feud? Phew :)
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# [18:46] <@smaug> dzbarsky: I'll ping him if I see him here in MV
# [18:47] <dzbarsky> smaug: thanks
# [18:47] <dzbarsky> smaug: the other option is instead of flushing layout, do something like flush content + animations
# [18:47] <@smaug> dzbarsky: but anyhow, the problem is that flush may run scripts
# [18:47] * Ms2ger waves at philor
# [18:47] <WG9s> kaie: because even though you are module owner this is really an open source open development environment so not really a I am in charge so i overrule everyone type ov situation I would think. But if you can justify your position that should be just fine I would think.
# [18:47] <@smaug> so odd things may happen
# [18:47] <@smaug> kaie: I did what?
# [18:48] <kaie> smaug, not you, he
# [18:48] <kaie> anyway. thanks for your opinion regarding module ownership
# [18:48] <Mossop> kaie: Essentially the only person that can override you is brendan
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# [18:48] <Mossop> Obviously we hope it never comes to that
# [18:48] <@smaug> dzbarsky: what do you mean with flushing content?
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# [18:49] <WG9s> Kaie: but rea;lly you don;lt want it to go to a only one person who can overrulle me .
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# [18:49] <dzbarsky> smaug: call FlushPendingNotifications(ChangesToFlush(Flush_Content, true))
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# [18:49] <@smaug> and how would that be useful here
# [18:49] <@smaug> we want the layout to be right
# [18:50] <@smaug> as far as I understand
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# [18:50] <dzbarsky> smaug: the rest of layout will be right from refresh driver flushes
# [18:50] <WG9s> just be calm and present why this need s to be done and wh this is a better soution that anyting else that has been proposed.
# [18:50] <dzbarsky> smaug: or at least it will be no more wrong that it is currently
# [18:50] <dzbarsky> smaug: the only thing that will be more wrong in the new world is async animations, so we flush those
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# [18:50] <@smaug> dzbarsky: but isn't the problem that we want to know the correct target for the event
# [18:51] <WG9s> kaie: of course I am not a module owner. but I thinkthat is the best course.
# [18:51] <dzbarsky> smaug: its not perfect, but it would be no worse off than we are currently
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# [18:53] <@smaug> dzbarsky: the other patch...
# [18:53] <@smaug> HasMouseEnterLeaveEventListeners
# [18:53] <WG9s> kaie: but if it gets to the point where you have to make a decision as module owner, then that is what you need ot do. was not sure form your description we were at that point yet.
# [18:53] <@smaug> I don't understand that at all ...
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# [18:53] <@smaug> dzbarsky: HasMouseEnterLeaveEventListeners is to check if there are mouseenter or mouseleave event listeners
# [18:53] <@smaug> and there usually isn't
# [18:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88d90921b348 - Luke Wagner - Bug 784706 - clear proxiedScopes in DebugScopes::onCompartmentLeaveDebugMode (r=jimb)
# [18:54] <dzbarsky> smaug: yes
# [18:54] <@smaug> why are those listeners special?
# [18:54] <@smaug> mouseover, mousemove, mouseout listeners are way more common
# [18:54] <dzbarsky> smaug: hmm, I'm not sure
# [18:54] <@smaug> (not all the browsers even have mouseenter and mouseleave events)
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# [18:55] <dzbarsky> smaug: I should probably be be checking for all of them
# [18:55] <@smaug> dzbarsky: we don't have flag for them
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# [18:56] <dzbarsky> smaug: I can make it. We definitely need it though
# [18:56] <dzbarsky> smaug: We don't want to be flushing animations if you're just moving the mouse around
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# [18:57] <@smaug> dzbarsky: unless we have mousemove event listeners..
# [18:57] <dzbarsky> smaug: right, but my guess is those aren't that common
# [18:57] <@smaug> I guess you want to add a flag for those
# [18:57] <@smaug> mousemove event listeners are pretty common
# [18:58] <@smaug> I would expect all the games to have them, all the JS widget libraries...etc
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# [18:58] <dzbarsky> smaug: hmm, true. Well, adding the flag is pretty cheap. We might as well try
# [18:59] <@smaug> dzbarsky: you could add the flag to your build and check how often it would help
# [19:00] <@smaug> (adding the flag should be really easy. Just do what is done for mouseenter/leave)
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# [19:00] <@smaug> (and sorry that this is a bit too complicated to get right )
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# [19:00] <dzbarsky> smaug: actually, all this stuff is preffed off right now (except b2g, and maybe android) so we can just not worry about it yet
# [19:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecbb10bf79b3 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 750570, part 4 - Switch most native CC classes to use the purple buffer. r=smaug
# [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24368b894189 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 750570, part 3 - Remove unused stabilizeForDeletion argument. r=smaug
# [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f9d182bab1d - Andrew McCreight - Bug 782735 - turn nsNodeInfoManager into a non-leaking native CC class. r=smaug
# [19:01] <dzbarsky> smaug: at least until we're ready to enable OMTC
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# [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/786f414ea726 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 750570, part 1 - lift UnmarkIfPurple to the root CC participant. r=glandium,smaug
# [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c144761a799f - Andrew McCreight - Bug 782485 - turn nsXULPrototypeNode into a native CC class. r=smaug
# [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9077df78db40 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 750570, part 2 - Add purple buffer support for non-nsISupports classes. r=smaug
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# [19:02] <@smaug> right
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# [19:03] <dzbarsky> smaug: heh, this flushing part is harder to get than the rest of the patches in the bug
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# [19:03] <philor> bsmedberg: was bug 776208 something we desperately wanted at any cost?
# [19:03] <philor> because the cost is looking like "that test is going to get disabled soon," so far
# [19:03] <@bsmedberg> philor: which test?
# [19:03] * @bsmedberg looked at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=9e6948f52101
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# [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5259919146b - Alex Crichton - Bug 785175: Discard column information if the script is too large instead of aborting. r=jorendorff
# [19:06] <philor> bsmedberg: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14672431&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14671196&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14671428&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [19:06] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14673285&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [19:06] <@bsmedberg> philor: back it all out, or I can in an hour
# [19:07] <@bsmedberg> it's important, but I'd rather have a test that works all the time than no test
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# [19:19] <efaust> when was the last merge to aurora?
# [19:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c0b16397ce9 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 785273 - Prevent circular references to Marionette instances, r=mdas
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# [19:43] <philor> mmm, fun red
# [19:43] <@smaug> dzbarsky: bz said "if content flushes if flushes chrome but if chrome flushes it doesn't flush content"
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# [19:44] <dzbarsky> smaug: so that means we can't push the flush higher up, right?
# [19:44] <@bsmedberg> clang: error: unable to execute command: posix_spawn failed: Permission denied
# [19:44] <philor> espindola: is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14674326&tree=Mozilla-Inbound a real clang bug, or clang thinking it must have a bug when it hits the fallout from where random programs on 10.7 give permission denied errors?
# [19:44] <philor> probably the latter, eh?
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# [19:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/814de647442c - Benjamin Smedberg - Revert bug 776208 for semi-consistent failures:
# [19:45] <dzbarsky> smaug: why do we actually need to pass a frame to nsLayoutUtils::GetFrameForPoint? (other than the whole nsDisplayListBuilder needs a frame thing)
# [19:46] <philor> bug 753223 already has ccache and nsinstall and python, no reason for it not to include posix_spawn
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# [19:50] <espindola> philor, yes looks bogus
# [19:50] <espindola> unless the posix_spaw failing is itself a clang bug ...
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# [20:00] <Ms2ger> Mm, 2444 pending runs :)
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# [20:00] <@khuey> what was the over night low?
# [20:01] <@khuey> was it below 1k?
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# [20:01] <Ms2ger> Dunno
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# [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bd8ec63a020 - Kyle Huey - Bug 783162: Make mapped attributes hold the image alive. r=bz
# [20:03] <Ms2ger> khuey, nice essay in that commit message :)
# [20:03] <@khuey> Ms2ger: bz asked for it
# [20:03] <@khuey> I follow orders
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# [20:03] <Ms2ger> Nobody denies bz's orders
# [20:03] <@khuey> indeed
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# [20:13] <@ehsan> khuey: ping
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# [20:14] <@khuey> ehsan: hi
# [20:14] <@ehsan> khuey: hello sir
# [20:14] <@ehsan> khuey: quick question
# [20:15] <@khuey> sure
# [20:15] <@ehsan> khuey: is there an easy way to run the idl parser without codegen?
# [20:15] <@ehsan> *webidl
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# [20:16] <@khuey> ehsan: just on a file, to see if it's valid webidl?
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# [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0eb750ce354b - Michael Wu - Bug 781039 - Mouse input support for gonk, r=cjones
# [20:16] <@ehsan> khuey: precisely
# [20:17] <@khuey> ehsan: not super easy
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# [20:17] <@khuey> ehsan: you can copy paste your webidl into one of the test files
# [20:17] <@khuey> ehsan: it would be pretty easy to write a main for WebIDL.py that does that though
# [20:18] <@ehsan> khuey: but wouldn't the parser also attempt to generate code for that?
# [20:18] <@khuey> no
# [20:18] <@ehsan> oh good
# [20:18] <Ms2ger> The codegen generates code
# [20:18] <@khuey> right
# [20:18] <Ms2ger> Oh, and we have tests for the parser, no?
# [20:18] <@ehsan> I thought that they're both run in the same run (no pun intended)
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# [20:18] <@khuey> Ms2ger: yes
# [20:18] <@khuey> ehsan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/parser/tests/test_array_of_interface.py
# [20:19] <@khuey> ehsan: that's really all it takes, would be easy to write a main that does that in WebIDL.py
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# [20:19] <@ehsan> oh great
# [20:19] <@ehsan> khuey: I think I'll do that instead of a one time hack
# [20:19] <@khuey> ehsan: r+ :-)
# [20:19] <@ehsan> thanks
# [20:19] <@ehsan> :)
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# [20:19] * @ehsan will file a bug with a patch
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# [20:22] <jesup> mounir: ping
# [20:22] <@khuey> did we intentionally unhide peptest on inbound?
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# [20:23] <Ms2ger> khuey, yes
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# [20:23] <Ms2ger> khuey, it was green before
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# [20:26] <lsblakk> jrmuizel: test orange on Linux build for that push - do you or perhaps ehsan know if that's a result of your push or just an intermittent?
# [20:27] <@khuey> ok
# [20:27] <@khuey> jw
# [20:27] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: I'll look
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# [20:27] <Ms2ger> rm: cannot remove `scripts/.hgtags': Read-only file system
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# [20:27] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: very unlikely to be my patch
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# [20:28] <lsblakk> k, will retrigger
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# [20:29] <nemo> heh. just noticed that iOS finally added "Firefox Sync" http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/#safari
# [20:29] <nemo> I guess that reduces the interest in the firefox home app
# [20:30] <jhammel> oooh! can we sue them for violating our TOS? ;)
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# [20:36] <firebot> Check-in:
# [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3331ec03e60f - Robert Lickenbrock - Bug 784756 - Remove an unnecessary loop from DecodeWorker::DecodeABitOf() that caused it to always take 5ms, even when decoding didn't take that long. r=joe
# [20:37] <@khuey> woo
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# [20:43] <yury> what can cause (very) intermitent failure that produces http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsDocumentViewer.cpp#2398 : "Subdocument container has non-subdocument frame"
# [20:44] <yury> iframe is created dynamically and added to XBL overlay
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# [20:49] <jet> yury: do you have the JS code that adds the iframe?
# [20:50] <yury> jet: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/e80dea0213a0/browser/base/content/browser-plugins.js#l321
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# [20:52] <jet> yury: I'm not sure accessing aPlugin.clientTop is the right way to force a Layout flush.
# [20:53] <@gavin> why not?
# [20:53] <yury> that's what being used in browser-plugin.js everywhere
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# [20:55] <jet> yury: do you have a way to force the failure to reproduce? seems like a race condition between appendChild(iframe) and the Layout flush in your case
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# [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5549c0a8817 - Kyle Huey - No bug: Fix some class/struct mismatch warnings on MSVC.
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# [20:58] <yury> another effect opening extra tab with url assigned in src, and its content size looks close to target iframe one
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# [20:59] <yury> jet: same effect is when clientTop is not used
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# [21:01] <jet> yury: I'm building with your patches now. I'll have another look when done
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# [21:04] <NeilAway> bah, kdiff3 fail
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# [21:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/73622d728d4c - Nick Fitzgerald - Fix test hang on Win opt (Bug 783393). r=past
# [21:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/35431a5588e0 - Rob Campbell - merge last green changeset from fx-team to m-c
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# [21:10] <kaie> bsmith, who are you to act like you do in bug 785426 ?
# [21:10] <kaie> please respect my module ownership
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# [21:11] <kaie> I am the only one working on this right now, and I'll find a reviewer and land it
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# [21:11] <kaie> so you don't have to remind people not to work on it
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# [21:14] <kaie> no. mozilla is a public project
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# [21:16] <Ms2ger> Hmm, 1526 failures
# [21:17] <kaie> I will implement a general purpose fix that is disabled by disabled and firefox can easily disable everything, and thereby I will also resolve the problem for thunderbird, something that nobody else has done yet
# [21:17] <kaie> people are free to do any followup work they desire
# [21:17] <kaie> but as nobody is working on it, I have a responsiblity to find a solution that I'm able to get done with my resources
# [21:17] <kaie> and that's what I'm going to do
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# [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0291edeff9fb - David Zbarsky - Log when we can't use async animations due to pseudos, no bug, r=cjones
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# [21:18] <@dolske> Dolske's Lemma 1: A bug entitled "end the drama" is unlikely to be anything but. :)
# [21:18] <kaie> thanks for the humour :)
# [21:19] <Ms2ger> Drama: it's how we roll
# [21:19] <Ms2ger> Also, intermittent orange
# [21:19] <KWierso|Home> delayed by a day and a half
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# [21:20] <mounir> jesup: pong
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# [21:31] <vikash> gerv, YYYiiipppeee!
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# [21:34] <@dolske> congrats!
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# [21:36] <johnath> vikash: \o/
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# [21:37] <vikash> dolske, johnath Thank-You so much!
# [21:37] <mounir> jesup: can you point me to the file?
# [21:37] <vikash> and my mentor should be thanked too :)
# [21:38] <mounir> jesup: forget that request
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# [21:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/45204dc49ac2 - Olli Pettay - Bug 785463 - Tweak PurpleBuffer Block size, r=mccr8
# [21:38] <NeilAway> bah, I started a Windows build half an hour ago, it's still doing its rm -f -r _tests :s
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# [21:39] <@khuey> you need a better disk
# [21:39] <Callek> or a dedicated disk that you can format instead of rm -f ;-)
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# [21:40] <vikash> Callek, just add a sudo :-)
# [21:41] <mounir> jesup: i think I found the bug, see my comment
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# [21:42] <jesup> mounir: cool!
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# [21:45] <NeilAway> khuey: SAS RAID 5, in this particular case
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# [21:50] <jesup> mounir: Forest for the trees - the mix of enumerations with less-than/greater-than is error-inducing - however, looking at Beta, it appears to have the same test. And per brad, it works on Beta/FF15.
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# [21:50] <mounir> jesup: did you try with the change?
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# [21:51] <jesup> mounir:I can't, I don't have an android build env
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# [21:52] <jesup> Brad was the one checking this. However, I see what you see. Brad did try removing the "return" however, and it said "success" but failed to take a picture.
# [21:52] <mounir> hmm
# [21:52] <jesup> So, if the test is backwards, it should have worked.
# [21:52] <mounir> maybe there is another bug which has nothing to do with the popup blocker check
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# [21:54] <jesup> Brad verified it's kicking out at that check, and when he changed the check the behavior changed. But this could be collateral damage caused by another bug
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# [21:56] <philor> I was wondering who caused all these NS_ERROR_FAILURE exceptions in all sorts of tests, and when they were going to do something about them, when I finally realized that it was probably me, downgrading the win->IsClosedOrClosing() abort
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# [21:56] <jesup> mounir: Here's what brad said when he tried that: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1774309
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# [21:58] <@smaug> anyone going to merge m-i to m-c soon?
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# [21:59] <mounir> smaug: Olli Pettay seems to volunteer to do that
# [21:59] <@smaug> nope
# [22:00] <@smaug> that person doesn't use m-i
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# [22:00] <mounir> bad person~
# [22:00] <mounir> !
# [22:00] <mounir> jesup: ok, that's not related to the popup blocker I believe
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# [22:00] <mounir> jesup: sad thing is that the author of the original patch could have tested this very easily
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# [22:02] <mounir> fabrice: no longer
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# [22:02] <mounir> this thing has been backed out
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# [22:11] <@smaug> hrm
# [22:11] <@smaug> should we close m-c
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# [22:13] <mbrubeck> smaug: No, it looks like we should just disable talos-r3-fed-070
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# [22:15] <@smaug> mbrubeck: yup. mccr8 just star'ed those
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# [22:16] <llenn> I'm having trouble using linux grep on the stable (firefox-14.0.1.tar.bz2 ) SHASUMS file
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# [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb4219f3723d - Nathan Froyd - Bug 783357 - part 1: add XPIDL_FLAGS to make idl dependencies more explicit; r=khuey
# [22:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/544b0cbdbb09 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 783357 - part 2: convert dom/ to use PARALLEL_DIRS; r=khuey
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# [22:19] <jesup> mounir: my understanding is that it did work when checked in, and works in current Beta (Brad tried it). So this is still very confusing - if you're right (and looking at the code visually it seems to match what you say), why did Brad report it works on FF15/Beta?
# [22:19] <llenn> I can't exclude the firefox-14.0.1-en-US-i686.tar.bz2.asc file when using grep ( $grep --exclude asc) etc
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# [22:19] <jesup> mounir: I agree given the amount of rework in the desktop checkin, the author should have checked Android for regressions (perhaps he did); my understanding is that his Android build env isn't working currently. But that's not an excuse (though maybe he did and it worked for him; he was having trouble reproducing it last I heard, but brad could)
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# [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/258f0a5ed7f5 - Terrence Cole - Bug 776583 - Make post barrier verifier pass interpreter tests; r=billm
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# [22:22] <@ehsan> khuey: ping
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# [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bdc56a180bc - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 785459 - Enable the WebIDL parser to be used stand-alone for syntax checking; r=khuey
# [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1142882b6c0b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 785472 - The Web IDL parser should not allow inheriting from an interface that is only forward declared; r=khuey
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# [22:27] <@khuey> ehsan: ok then
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# [22:31] <jesup> mounir: "ok, that's not related to the popup blocker I believe" -- to be clear, which is not related to the popup blocker? The failure to take an image with the return removed? Thanks
# [22:31] <llenn> time to duckduckgo.org howto use grep -- sorry for the interruption
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# [22:32] <froydnj> ehsan: I think your bug 785472 fix worked too well
# [22:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bc0e4eac6e5 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset 1142882b6c0b (bug 785472) because it breaks the build
# [22:33] <@ehsan> froydnj: yes :(
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# [22:34] <@ehsan> froydnj: lol :)
# [22:35] <mounir> jesup: yes
# [22:35] <Yoric> Remind me, is Ryan ryanvm?
# [22:36] <froydnj> Yoric: don't believe so
# [22:37] <Yoric> That's what I thought.
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# [22:38] <@khuey> ehsan: ping
# [22:39] <@ehsan> khuey: ack
# [22:39] <@khuey> ehsan: you got the conditional wrong
# [22:39] <@khuey> ehsan: there's an extra not in there
# [22:39] <@ehsan> oh did I?
# [22:40] <@khuey> yes
# [22:40] <@ehsan> hrm
# [22:40] <@ehsan> let me see
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# [22:41] <@ehsan> shoot
# [22:41] <@ehsan> you're right!
# [22:41] <@khuey> yep!
# [22:41] <@ehsan> I'll fix and reland, thanks
# [22:41] <@khuey> at least it's easy to fix
# [22:42] <@ehsan> (and test this time!)
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# [22:53] <terrence> ehsan: isn't |execept Foo as foo| python3 syntax?
# [22:53] <@ehsan> terrence: I don't think so... is it?
# [22:53] <terrence> ehsan: it's certainly not valid python2.5
# [22:54] <@ehsan> hmm
# [22:54] <@ehsan> so how do you do that in python 2.5?
# [22:54] <terrence> ehsan: python2 syntax is |expect Foo, foo|
# [22:54] <@ehsan> oh ok, I'll fix it then
# [22:54] <terrence> ehsan: one more reason that I love python3... I guess it's backported to python2.7 as well?
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# [22:55] <@ehsan> yeah cause my local python is 2.7
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# [22:56] <terrence> ehsan: yeah, works in 2.7 here too... it's definitely newer syntax than 2.5 though
# [22:56] <gps> #%$* Python 2.5 (which is deployed on our Linux builders)
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# [22:56] <terrence> it's *so* ancient... how?
# [22:56] <terrence> is it CentOS or something?
# [22:57] <gps> tell your managers that bug 602908 and causing you to waste your time
# [22:57] <gps> there's no technical reason 2.7 is not deployed everywhere
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# [22:57] <jhammel> well, there is and there isn't
# [22:57] <@gavin> you could also submit a petition to whitehouse.gov
# [22:57] <@ehsan> terrence: thanks for the pointer, fixed
# [22:58] * froydnj files "end the drama around supported python versions"
# [22:58] <terrence> ehsan: np!
# [22:58] <gps> gavin: that would probably get answered
# [22:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f56f3d3f2c12 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 785459 follow-up: use the python 2.5 syntax
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# [22:58] <@bsmedberg> but, but... python 2.5 is where it's at!
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# [22:59] <jhammel> beh, python 2.5 is too new...we should go back to 2.2
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# [22:59] <jhammel> we still use 2.*4* in at least one place (windows talos)
# [22:59] <gps> we should just rewrite the Makefiles in PHP 4
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# [23:00] <jhammel> gps: Fortran 77 ftw
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# [23:00] <froydnj> jhammel: you win a prize for pushing people to php 4
# [23:01] <jhammel> :)
# [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e89ead1bbe38 - David Zbarsky - Bug 785486 - DomCameraManager redefines DOM_CAMERA_LOG_LEVEL r=mikeh
# [23:01] <jhammel> plus, since i used fortran 77 back in the day, i will likely end up a buildsystem peer
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# [23:01] <jhammel> oh wait, i don't want that, nm
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# [23:03] <gps> this is why touching NSS is so fun. no matter what you do, there is no way you will become a peer
# [23:03] <WG9s> what is going on with all the red on the last 2 changesets on linux builds on mozilla-central?
# [23:03] <jhammel> python 2.5
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# [23:03] <froydnj> gps: you have a sekret desire to be an NSS peer?
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# [23:04] <gps> as much as I like C, I'm not a crypto monkey
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# [23:04] <jhammel> more of a build monkey? ;)
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# [23:06] <gps> if anyone here wants to be a hero, I just realized that Visual Studio project generation in my build splendid branch should be relatively straight-forward
# [23:06] <gps> ping me if you want to volunteer to look at things
# [23:06] <jhammel> well, i wouldn't want to be a windows hero ;)
# [23:07] <jhammel> oh you meant by installing gcc instead, that sounds good
# [23:07] <gps> I even have old code in that branch that generates VS project files
# [23:07] <gps> you just need to hook up the new generator API to it
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# [23:10] <zzzzz> smaug mrbrubeck mccr8 I had #build kill off talos-r3-fed-070 for now
# [23:11] <mccr8> thanks
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# [23:16] <WG9s> guess no one other than me is actually concerned about this.
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# [23:18] <mccr8> WG9s: the reds on the tests on the last few Linux runs is because one of the test slaves is busted.
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# [23:19] <WG9s> oh ok if it is a single salve then i understand why not much concern
# [23:19] <dzbarsky> could somebody please merge mc to inbound?
# [23:19] <@ehsan> luke: r=you on removing cx from the ctor as well?
# [23:19] <mccr8> yeah. I retriggered them just now in case there could be another problem.
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# [23:19] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: mc into inbound?
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# [23:20] <dzbarsky> ehsan, yes. I would like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=eccef9b3f1f1 on inbound
# [23:20] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: everything on m-c is already on inbound
# [23:21] <@ehsan> what do you mean?
# [23:21] <dzbarsky> it got backed out on central but not on inbound
# [23:21] <WG9s> Oh i do see now all on one slave. Nevermind! ;-) (Emily Litella) ;-)
# [23:22] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: you're wrong :)
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# [23:22] <@ehsan> that revision is on inbound
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# [23:23] <dzbarsky> ehsan: really? my inbound build is running into issues fixed by that backout
# [23:23] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: then maybe there are more issues
# [23:23] <@ehsan> do an hg log -r eccef9b to make sure you have everything
# [23:24] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: fwiw I broke inbound several times today
# [23:24] <@ehsan> tip should be fine
# [23:24] <dzbarsky> ehsan: I'm on tip, and I have that revision. hmm
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# [23:25] <luke> ehsan: yes
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# [23:25] <@ehsan> luke: ty
# [23:25] <luke> ehsan: thanks for removing the dead code
# [23:25] <@ehsan> luke: you should thank clang for discovering it :)
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# [23:29] <WG9s> I guess cause it crashed so quickly it was always available to do a new test.
# [23:30] <WG9s> just loked like an odd cluster of reds
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# [23:35] <philor> mmm, pretty tree
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# [23:37] <philor> looks like we haven't done anything about the 1500 Linux M1 failures, right?
# [23:37] <philor> guess what tree is about to close for the 5th day in a row?
# [23:37] <KWierso|Home> NeilAway: CC change on aug21
# [23:37] <NeilAway> KWierso|Home: oh, I have those hidden, thanks
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# [23:44] <philor> huh, is that really bsmedberg's backout, and not bjacob before him like it should be, that broke hell out of Linux?
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# [23:45] <bjacob> philor: what?
# [23:45] <philor> bjacob: Linux mochitest 1, mochitest 4 and reftest have been broken for hours, though it's hard to see because we hardly ever actually get tests run during the day anymore
# [23:46] <philor> I'd rather blame your https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bf32bc47aa2 than bsmedberg's https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/814de647442c because his is a backout
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# [23:46] <bjacob> that doesnt make sense
# [23:46] <WG9s> philor: others pointed out to me it is all on the same slave. SO perhaps not that big a deal.
# [23:46] <philor> but you have a single m1 and a single reftest saying it isn't you
# [23:47] <bjacob> philor: my patch touches only the webgl impl
# [23:47] <philor> WG9s: that's something different, not this
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# [23:48] <WG9s> odd thought it was exactly what i said about 10 mins ago.
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# [23:48] <philor> hmm. busted backout? something landed on top of it that's now messed up?
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# [23:48] <WG9s> but i did go back and see that all the reds were on the same slave at that time.
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# [23:48] <bjacob> philor: what failures are you thinking may be cause by my patch? the linux build failures?
# [23:49] <tanvi> does any one know how to tell if an external font loaded or not?
# [23:49] <bjacob> ah ok, m1 and m4
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# [23:49] <WG9s> or is thsi on inbound. cacuse my issue was on mozilla-central
# [23:49] <philor> bjacob: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14676619&tree=Mozilla-Inbound and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14675969&tree=Mozilla-Inbound and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14680445&tree=Mozilla-Inbound a reftest timeout
# [23:49] <bjacob> philor: the m1 failures are canvas 2d tests: impossible that they'd be caused by my patch
# [23:49] <philor> WG9s: please please believe me, this is not that
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# [23:50] <WG9s> phior: just trying to understand the difference
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# [23:50] <tanvi> i want to capture loads and failures for external fonts set with @font-face in my mochitest
# [23:51] <bjacob> philor: all these errors seem to be security errors. i'd look for a patch relating to security (maybe principals) to blame
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# [23:51] <bjacob> also see the m4 error, it's the same
# [23:51] <WG9s> philor: because might help me in future starring of builds
# [23:51] * philor gives up
# [23:52] <philor> WG9s: that is red, on any test suite, all by the same slave
# [23:52] <philor> WG9s: this is orange, on three particular test suites and only those three, no matter which slave ran the test
# [23:52] <bjacob> philor: look, my push has green m1 and m4, bsmedberg's push after hasn't
# [23:53] <philor> bjacob: yes indeed; his, however, is supposed to just be a backout
# [23:53] <WG9s> I give up too I guess people really don;t want help staring builds
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# [23:53] <bjacob> philor: maybe stuff changed under his feet?
# [23:53] <WG9s> brecause they think they are the only ones who are capable of doing it correctly
# [23:54] <bjacob> philor: we're paying a very high price for the delayed test results, aren't we
# [23:54] <philor> indeed
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# [23:54] <philor> and for that matter for not having a sheriff during the busiest times for the tree
# [23:55] <bjacob> i think since we dont have the hardware to keep up with that number of pushes, we should quit the test-on-push approach, instead test periodically and then bisect on failure
# [23:55] <jhammel> i'm not convinced that would *save* time
# [23:56] <mbrubeck> bjacob: That's basically what we're doing now. :/
# [23:56] <philor> it would save me time - I'd suddenly have all the time I spend on tree-watching free for other things
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# [23:57] <philor> mbrubeck: sorry to throw crap on your shoulders again, but I've got 3 minutes of lunch hour left, maybe bsmedberg's backout wasn't a clean backout but Linux is hosed and the tree is closed
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# [23:57] <mbrubeck> philor: I'll take a look in a minute
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# [23:58] <WG9s> mbrubeck funny he just told me i should ignore the linux issue
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# [23:59] <WG9s> when i asked about it
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