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1. # Session Start: Thu Aug 30 00:00:00 2012
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: the only two patches that execute on OSX at all are Part2 and Part6.
4. # [00:01] <RyanVM> and part 2 is on the stack?
5. # [00:01] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> yes
6. # [00:01] * jdm hates vtable-related linker errors
7. # [00:01] <RyanVM> philor: are there still clobber issues w/ gfx?
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9. # [00:02] <philor> RyanVM: not that I know of, but there are always surprises
10. # [00:02] <jdm> TCPSocketChild.cpp:function vtable for mozilla::dom::TCPSocketChild: error: undefined reference to 'mozilla::dom::TCPSocketChild::Open(nsITCPSocketInternal*, nsAString_internal const&, unsigned short, bool, nsAString_internal const&)'
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12. # [00:02] <jdm> who wants to help me figure out what's up?
13. # [00:02] <@roc> Is it possible to install a home-made Fennec build on my phone without rooting it?
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15. # [00:03] <padenot> roc: yes
16. # [00:03] <gaston> roc: enable non-market apps
17. # [00:03] <gaston> download the apk
18. # [00:03] <@roc> is it possible to attach the debugger?
19. # [00:03] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: there is definitely something wrong.
20. # [00:04] <RyanVM> did anything change with part 2 or 6 after your last Try push?
21. # [00:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: nothing changed after my last try push.
22. # [00:04] <gps> someone I'm working with had their HG account disabled. do they really need to file a bug or does someone here have access?
23. # [00:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> everything worked on OSX fine on the try push.
24. # [00:04] <RyanVM> your last one doesn't show the entire patch stack either, IIUC
25. # [00:04] <gps> (due to inactivity)
26. # [00:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> but strangely when it landed Monday night everything was broken on OSC.
27. # [00:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> OSX.
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31. # [00:05] <RyanVM> i'm clobbering inbound now and will trigger new dep builds on that push afterwards
32. # [00:06] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: what does that mean?
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35. # [00:06] <RyanVM> i'm triggering a new round of builds for that push, but with a clobber first
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37. # [00:07] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: ok. that sounds like a reasonable plan. I think the reason they didn't show up on the try push is that I'd cancelled my first try push.
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42. # [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87916fa5d94f - Yoshi Huang - Bug 786809 - (b2g-stk) B2G RIL: typo in Stk. r=philikon.
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44. # [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e12f3cddc672 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 786816 - (b2g-stk) B2G RIL: Don't send Terminal Response in advance. r=philikon
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47. # [00:11] <RyanVM> those last two pushes are also post-clobber
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60. # [00:16] <johns> So why might a nsIContent node not have a primary frame, assuming its in an active document and we've done a Flush_Frames
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63. # [00:18] <dholbert> johns, if it's display:none, I believe
64. # [00:19] <dholbert> johns, (or it has an ancestor that's display:none)
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70. # [00:20] <@khuey> firebot: uuid
71. # [00:20] <firebot> ec253100-630d-4366-ac77-b67525167960 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
72. # [00:21] <@roc> johns: there are other weird cases like certain kinds of content appearing inside a <table>
73. # [00:21] <@khuey> firebot: uuid
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76. # [00:21] <johns> dholbert, roc: thanks
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78. # [00:22] <johns> Followup question: What's the best way to determine if a content node is display:none (or nested inside of one)
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81. # [00:24] <RyanVM> philor: I've got a backout push ready to go if clobbering doesn't work
82. # [00:24] <@khuey> firebot: uuid
83. # [00:24] <firebot> c343eb25-9dc8-49a8-a70f-58a0337b3f6e (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
84. # [00:25] <jhammel> khuey: thanks; my procedure for getting uuids is to wait for khuey to ask firebot and then stealing those numbers :P
85. # [00:25] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: does test_fileapi_slice.html fail regularly?
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87. # [00:26] <RyanVM> not that I'm aware of
88. # [00:26] <RyanVM> there's a lot more orange than that, too ;)
89. # [00:26] <@roc> johns: that could be complicated. What do you want this for?
90. # [00:26] <@khuey> jhammel: you could have stolen a couple dozen last night
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93. # [00:26] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: it's probably me.
94. # [00:26] <johns> roc: We don't instantiate plugins until they're in the document, display: none purposefully excludes plugins from starting
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96. # [00:27] <johns> roc: But I fixed an issue where we'd start plugins that were supposed to intantiate with a stream without one
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99. # [00:27] <johns> roc: The issue now is we end up opening a stream, getting display: none'd, and having to give up the stream and retry later
100. # [00:27] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: I have no idea why that would be the case.
101. # [00:27] <@roc> I didn't understand the middle message there
102. # [00:28] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: we'll see
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104. # [00:28] <johns> roc: If you have <object data="derp.swf"> we open that data stream, examine its content type, then start the plugin and feed it the stream
105. # [00:28] <johns> roc: But this has to happen synchronously, the plugin needs to get OnStartRequest/etc
106. # [00:28] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> *crosses fingers*
107. # [00:28] <johns> roc: So previously if the plugin was display:none, we'd just throw out the stream and instantiate the plugin *without* the stream when a frame appeared
108. # [00:29] <@roc> ok
109. # [00:29] <johns> roc: But I think I can/should fix this in terms of when we have a frame, rather than trying to detect display:none regardless
110. # [00:29] <@roc> yes
111. # [00:29] <@roc> although it depends on what the spec says
112. # [00:29] <@roc> lemme have a look
113. # [00:30] <johns> roc: The HTML4 spec is nonsense in regard to <object> tags, and the HTML5 spec unfortunately doesn't mesh well with a lot of existing behavior in various browsers
114. # [00:30] <@roc> I thought we got Ian to fix that
115. # [00:31] <johns> roc: I'm looking for a bug, but we "un-broke" display:none plugins at one point and it broke a lot of pages
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117. # [00:32] <johns> roc: We also have a lot of "don't crash flash" quirks in the instantiation code that prevents against spawning flash without a frame and sending certain messages when the frame changes size/etc, so it might not enjoy being instantiated display:none
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119. # [00:33] <@roc> right, I'm not suggesting we instantiate for display:none
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121. # [00:34] <@roc> okay, the spec is a bit flexible here: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#being-rendered
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125. # [00:34] <@roc> so you should really just test whether the element has a frame (after Flush_Frames)
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134. # [00:39] <Hixie> johns: what in the HTML spec doesn't mesh about <object>? I thought that section was pretty much as meshed as possible by this point
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137. # [00:42] <@roc> taras: are you aware that dxr.mozilla.org is at revision 3199bc043da4 (August 9)?
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139. # [00:42] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: moment of truth. Some post-clobber M4s are going
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147. # [00:45] <johns> Hixie: 'doesnt mesh' probably isn't the best phrasing, rather, there's a lot of legacy quirks it doesn't address (understandably)
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150. # [00:45] <taras> roc: that's not supposed to happen
151. # [00:45] <taras> thanks we'll look into it
152. # [00:46] <@roc> taras: how often is it supposed to update?
153. # [00:46] <taras> roc: daily
154. # [00:46] <taras> from a tinderbox
155. # [00:46] <@roc> ok cool
156. # [00:47] <taras> the devel version should be a bit newer
157. # [00:47] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: still broken :(
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159. # [00:47] <taras> should get fixed tomorrow
160. # [00:47] <firebot> Check-in:
161. # [00:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9a7f7115ec6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 503884273a3a, dc33092d9cd8, 1099c9f0962d, 682a61f34c81, fc26333c7525, e823337a4f78, and cfa7cdede09c (bug 781731) due to OSX bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
162. # [00:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6137cbeffb2f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 84103a267a9e (bug 785200) due to debug orange on a CLOSED TREE.
163. # [00:47] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: that means I got the try push wrong somehow.
164. # [00:48] <gps> I just built about 90% of mozilla-central in Visual Studio 2010 Express \o/
165. # [00:49] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> gps: +1
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167. # [00:50] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: IIUC, if you push the same cset against the same head to Try, that cset will NOT being included in that run
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169. # [00:51] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: alright. that seems to have been my mistake.
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171. # [00:52] <Hixie> johns: like what? it's supposed to address every quirk, it's not understandable if the spec doesn't match what you have to implement.
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173. # [00:52] <Hixie> johns: the whole point of the spec is to say what you have to implement so as to be compatible with the web and other browsers
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176. # [00:52] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: sorry for making a mess on inbound.
177. # [00:53] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> I hate it when my lessons are at someone else's expense.
178. # [00:53] <RyanVM> heh
179. # [00:53] <philor> RyanVM: next up, xpcshell bustage!
180. # [00:54] <mbrubeck> RyanVM, philor: Has there been any infrastructure issue that busted Android R1 for some period in the past day or so? I'm trying to make sense of some crazy Try results.
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182. # [00:54] <mbrubeck> grasping at straws, really
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184. # [00:55] <mbrubeck> and it's not bug 784278
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186. # [00:56] <RyanVM> philor: betting on bug 784124 for xpcshell
187. # [00:57] <johns> Hixie: Well for one it purposefully doesn't address how we deal with plugins at the NPAPI-level, which requires a lot of quirks for when we instantiate the plugin, when we pass data to it, how we open channels for it, etc. Secondly, the steps for instantiation for object tags simply dont match our steps for instantiation, but historically even small changes to these break compatibility
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190. # [00:58] <RyanVM> philor: or maybe bug 785776
191. # [00:58] <philor> RyanVM: dunno, both bhackett and fabrice might be good for it
192. # [00:59] <mbrubeck> darn, no R1 bustage on inbound in my time frame :/
193. # [00:59] <Hixie> johns: agreed that the details of NPAPI are beyond the scope of the spec (though the _order_ of parameters to the plugin _is_ defined, if not the timing)
194. # [00:59] <Hixie> johns: but please file bugs on any differences where you think it's more important that other browsers match you than that you match what the spec currently says.
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196. # [00:59] <philor> maybe one of the people who thinks we should just run tests every so often and then bisect would like to tell us which it is :)
197. # [01:00] <RyanVM> philor: just triggered a linux opt xpcshell on fabrice
198. # [01:00] <Hixie> johns: it is definitely my goal for the spec to exactly match all implementations and for all implementations to exactly match teh spec, as it should be for all specs
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201. # [01:00] <Hixie> johns: and much effort has been put into what the spec says, in particular in trying to find the optimal thing in cases where browsers differ
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205. # [01:01] <Hixie> johns: so please don't assume that where you differ from the spec it's just because it was not examined, it's as likely to be that as that it was an area where gecko is less compatible than other browsers on something or other
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210. # [01:04] <johns> Hixie: Not at all, the spec looks very sane, it's just our behavior that's not. Random example being, if the type is java but there's a data="" attribute, we skip opening the URL
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212. # [01:04] <@khuey> johns: I don't think you understand, Hixie wants to put that stuff in the spec if it's needed for compat
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214. # [01:05] <Hixie> johns: right, what khuey said. I don't care about "sane", I want "precise and what you implement"
215. # [01:05] <RyanVM> philor: hilarity - the Try push for Fabrice has xpcshell failures on all platforms
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217. # [01:05] <Hixie> johns: where the spec doesn't match your implementation, one of the two needs to change; which has to change depends on what is needed for interop, typically.
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220. # [01:06] <Hixie> johns: so for example with that java example, is that something you need to do for compatibility with other sites? do you have a test case i can test other browsers on?
221. # [01:07] <johns> khuey, Hixie: I understand, what I'm saying is, even if we today 100% implement chrome's exact behavior, we'd still break things. The java quirk is a problem with how java's NPAPI stuff instantiates, which we can't fix on our end.
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224. # [01:08] <johns> There's just a lot of things we have to take into account that shouldn't be in the scope of the spec. And the areas where we're different from the current spec are partly areas we should change, partly errors where we have to put up with old sites that UA sniff, and so on
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226. # [01:08] <Hixie> johns: "errors where we have to put up with old sites that UA sniff" are things I want to put in the spec.
227. # [01:08] <Hixie> johns: that kind of thing is definitely in scope.
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229. # [01:10] <johns> Hixie: Suppose a site does |if (firefox) {} else if (chrome) {}|, and the implementations it uses are not compatible, what behavior goes in the spec?
230. # [01:10] <johns> Hixie: And suppose the if (firefox) {} behavior is based on a old totally-wrong quirky way firefox used to handle things
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233. # [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd879b3ab5cd - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 2865d46e472d (bug 778079) for xpcshell failures on a CLOSED TREE. r=IfYoureGoingToUseTryLookAtTheResultsBeforePushingToInbound
234. # [01:10] <Hixie> johns: depends on the case. usually we find a way to make it work in both cases. sometimes we find ways for the tests to not test the same way anymore. sometimes we get the sites to change. sometimes we put in site-specific hacks.
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236. # [01:10] <Hixie> johns: (e.g. search for "ibm" in the spec)
237. # [01:11] <@roc> the spec should specify a standard UA string :-)
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240. # [01:11] <johns> roc: But should the spec call it 'Mobile' or 'Tablet' :-P
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242. # [01:12] <Hixie> roc: that's up to the HTTP spec. You'll notice that when I was editing WebSockets, I did. (the IETF later screwed that up)
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249. # [01:15] <johns> Hixie: I can open a bug to document the ways we don't jive with the spec, but I'm still cleaning up ancient code (our behavior has changed moderately in 17) and more than a handful of things still need to be looked at, so it might not be a good idea to break down our behavior just yet
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252. # [01:16] <Hixie> johns: i'll defer to your judgement as to when to file bugs, all i ask is that if you make a conscious decision to deviate from what the spec says, that you file a bug so that we can fix the spec so you don't have to deviate any more :-)
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255. # [01:17] <Hixie> johns: (to file a bug, just load the spec http://whatwg.org/html#the-object-element then click on the relevant part of the spec, type the message in the box at the bottom right of the page, and hit "Submit Review Comment")
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273. # [01:25] <Waldo> so, um
274. # [01:25] <Waldo> if we dropped gcc 4.2 support, why are the 10.7 SpiderMonkey tinderboxen doing shell builds using it?
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276. # [01:26] <@roc> Waldo! are you back?
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278. # [01:26] <Waldo> roc: yes
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280. # [01:27] <Waldo> roc: finished 19:00 Thursday night, right on time
281. # [01:27] <@roc> yay. Hope you had a good trip.
282. # [01:27] <Waldo> roc: 37 days for ~3766mi is not enough time, and just barely enough :-)
283. # [01:27] <Waldo> it was a good trip
284. # [01:27] <Waldo> it would have been better with a little more time :-)
285. # [01:27] <Waldo> this is not a complaint, merely an observation :-)
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288. # [01:28] <Waldo> I suspect, if I were doing it with no deadline at the end, I'd probably do it somewhere around a week longer, to accommodate a day off or two, touring Monticello at length, and stopping a little earlier more often in the latter half of the trip
289. # [01:28] <darktrojan> oh man Waldo's back, time travels too quickly
290. # [01:28] <mbrubeck> I'm impressed that he time travels at all
291. # [01:29] <darktrojan> heh
292. # [01:29] <darktrojan> how else do you think he does it
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294. # [01:29] <Waldo> "What do we want? Time travel! When do we want it? It's irrelevant!"
295. # [01:29] <philor> RyanVM: I filed bug 786869 for the new WinXP slaves turning purple, if you feel the need for some place to stick them
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297. # [01:29] <Waldo> philor: I am attempting to get the warnings-as-errors boxen back in shape now, fwiw
298. # [01:30] <Waldo> r=themaid is out in force
299. # [01:30] <RyanVM> philor: thanks
300. # [01:30] <philor> Waldo: sorry the Windows ones are gone, but I filed bug 783740 for your Mac ones (but it won't be fixed in any sort of, um, it won't, uh)
301. # [01:31] <philor> maybe you could hire espindola away from whatever team he works on?
302. # [01:31] <Waldo> philor: yeah, I saw a bit of your cantankering in my skimming of bugmail the last couple few days
303. # [01:32] <philor> Waldo: yeah, it's a new world order, you have to stay awake 24/7 to defend all your tests, sort of post-apocalyptic
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305. # [01:32] <Waldo> philor: isn't that the old world order?
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308. # [01:32] * KWierso thought the old world order was that no one cared about tests...
309. # [01:32] <philor> s/tests/tests and builds/, I guess
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312. # [01:34] <philor> I just wish the new world order would catch up to Android
313. # [01:34] <philor> comment 1331
314. # [01:34] <KWierso> onward, palindromic warrior
315. # [01:36] <philor> of course, the new world order is really only about slaves that can be moved to something else, and the only things you can do with a tegra are fail to run Android tests or slit your wrists
316. # [01:36] <mbrubeck> bug 784278 is lying about the "*mac* foopy"
317. # [01:36] <philor> comment 1748
318. # [01:36] <jhammel> philor: i'm guessing that "slaves" aren't just the machines we run on here ;)
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320. # [01:37] <philor> mbrubeck: yeah, but that's how I'm going to find it in my awesomebar for all time
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323. # [01:38] <mbrubeck> philor: Okay, I won't remove it from the summary then. :P
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326. # [01:39] <philor> mbrubeck: doesn't matter, the honey badger bug hasn't had that in the summary for months, doesn't stop me
327. # [01:39] <philor> but I don't think it was "blame the mac foopy" so much as "this isn't just because I stood up a new Linux foopy at the same time"
328. # [01:40] <KWierso> RyanVM: yep, I see green. Thanks for the backout!
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334. # [01:45] <RyanVM> philor: OSX appears to be returning to green
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336. # [01:45] <RyanVM> however, there was another m-oth failure that I'm not sure is fixed yet
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338. # [01:45] <RyanVM> I think 778079 may have been causing that too, though
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340. # [01:46] <philor> poor pathetic Windows, it's just now getting around to having fileapi_slice crashes
341. # [01:46] <RyanVM> philor: so if it sparkles with you, I'd like to wait for a green m-oth before reopening
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348. # [01:53] <philor> RyanVM: even inbound has a 80 minute backlog, despite the tree being closed most of the day, I won't argue against more closure
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359. # [02:02] <bsmith> Where does UI code that is shared by Firefox and Thunderbird usually go? toolkit/? browser/?
360. # [02:02] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: looks like you broke Windows too, FWIW :)
361. # [02:02] <@gavin> bsmith: toolkit
362. # [02:02] <bsmith> and similarly, where does UI code that is shared by desktop and mobile usually go?
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364. # [02:03] <@gavin> also toolkit
365. # [02:03] <@gavin> though there isn't much of that, nowadays...
366. # [02:03] <bsmith> Thank you gavin
367. # [02:04] <bsmith> Is browser/ basically Firefox? And toolkit is basically stuff that is shared between Thunderbird and Firefox?
368. # [02:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: I found what was breaking OSX.
369. # [02:04] <bsmith> I mean, how does one go about decideding where to add something new, UI-wise?
370. # [02:05] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: so it looks like I just need how to operate try properly.
371. # [02:05] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: with any luck, Windows was broken for the same reason
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373. # [02:06] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: yes. well it could be.
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375. # [02:06] <Jesse> roc++
376. # [02:06] <mconnor> bsmith: there really isn't any shared UI code between android and desktop, AFAIK. there's no single right place for shared code, but odds are you'll need to write a component and two UIs
377. # [02:06] <Jesse> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780345 is great
378. # [02:07] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: ping
379. # [02:07] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: pong
380. # [02:07] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: Do you have a Try link handy for bug 672448?
381. # [02:07] <mconnor> bsmith: for Fx/Tbird toolkit is fine-ish, depends on what it is perhaps, but if it's really shared it's probably toolkit
382. # [02:07] <@gavin> bsmith: it's probably more useful to talk specifics
383. # [02:07] <@roc> Jesse?
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386. # [02:07] <@gavin> bsmith: browser/ is firefox, yes
387. # [02:08] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: I make mistakes, I learn from them then I move forward.
388. # [02:08] <Jesse> roc: thanks for making it so i can use space (pgdn) on twitter and gmail again. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780345
389. # [02:08] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: Oh, no, not beyond comment 32. I didn't push the latest patch to try. But it's mostly unchanged from v6.
390. # [02:09] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: famous last words ;) :P
391. # [02:09] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: Indeed. But I tested it locally, so there's that. :/
392. # [02:10] <RyanVM> ok
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397. # [02:13] * philor finally figures out how we can solve the slave shortage
398. # [02:13] <philor> just make Try instantly return a random assortment of colors
399. # [02:13] <@roc> Waldo: while you were away there was a bit of a discussion about the naming of "Scoped" classes in MFBT
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401. # [02:14] <Waldo> roc: versus Auto* or something? honestly when that was first discussed I couldn't see a reason to prefer either Auto or Scoped, so I just went with what other people wanted more or less
402. # [02:15] <Waldo> roc: which bug was it in?
403. # [02:15] <Hixie> is ms2ger about?
404. # [02:15] <@roc> I prefer Auto since it's used more throughout our code
405. # [02:15] * Waldo skimmed all his bugmail backlog for interesting bug subjects, didn't read most of it
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408. # [02:15] <Waldo> Hixie: he tends to leave around noonish here, get on later in the evening, seeing as he's in an undisclosed European location
409. # [02:15] <@roc> bug 718398
410. # [02:15] <Hixie> Waldo: k, thanks
411. # [02:16] <Waldo> roc: retry
412. # [02:16] <@roc> retry?
413. # [02:16] <Waldo> roc: that's not the bug
414. # [02:16] <@roc> ah
415. # [02:16] <@roc> bug 718938
416. # [02:16] <Waldo> aha, there we go, thanks
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420. # [02:17] <RyanVM> sweet, xpcshell is green
421. # [02:17] <RyanVM> just need m-oth and I think we're good
422. # [02:18] <GPHemsley> philor: Watch you don't violate any constitutional amendments...
423. # [02:18] <bsmith> Thanks for the explanation, mconnor and gavin
424. # [02:19] <Waldo> roc: yeah, I read that and continue to think auto's preferable just because everyone uses it, but it's all shades of paint and I really didn't care that hard for that particular nitpick
425. # [02:20] <Waldo> my comment 29 was about as close as I came to saying that in the bug
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428. # [02:20] <Waldo> plus there was also my semi-ambivalence in comment 29 about the entire idea of the header, but other people seemed to think it nice, so again I didn't really care that much
429. # [02:22] <philor> "oh, good, just the crash in sqlite" - the things this 'job' makes you say
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431. # [02:22] <RyanVM> philor hah
432. # [02:23] * Waldo tends to think flushing children was a bit further along that scale
433. # [02:24] <philor> it's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it
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442. # [02:30] <mbrubeck> hmmph
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445. # [02:30] <mbrubeck> retriggering R1 on the *same Try builds* I get 5 greens in a row today, compared to 5 oranges in a row yesterday.
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447. # [02:30] <mbrubeck> I think maybe there was just an outbreak of especially virulent Tegra Madness yesterday afternoon. :/
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455. # [02:34] <jduell> ooh, inbound looks so pretty now. Reopen time?
456. # [02:35] <RyanVM> jduell: easy, killer :)
457. # [02:35] <jduell> it was worth a try...
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459. # [02:36] <RyanVM> jduell: have at it
460. # [02:38] <reuben> !seen zpao
461. # [02:38] <firebot> zpao was last seen 6 weeks, 1 day, 5 hours, 24 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying 'can i add "magical tooltips (background color & img, etc)" to the list of "things I <3 & miss"' in #devtools.
462. # [02:38] <reuben> whaaaaaat
463. # [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9da151b4b1c9 - julian.reschke@gmx.de - Bug 783502. r=jduell
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465. # [02:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0bdc5212ba83 - Hub Figuière - Bug 773892 - Part 2: Check for network status and delay until reconnect. r=vingtetun
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470. # [02:41] <taras> roc: can you help with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786421
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477. # [02:45] <dholbert> reuben, zpao works at Facebook now ( http://zpao.com/about/ ), if you didn't know
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481. # [02:46] <@roc> taras: didn't tnikkel pinpoint the problem in comment #9?
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484. # [02:47] <taras> roc: not sure, he commented after i pinged you :)
485. # [02:47] <reuben> dholbert, yea, I knew he was no longer at MoCo from his bugzilla title… is it just me or is Facebook stealing a lot of MoCo employees?
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488. # [02:48] <taras> tn: so does your comment mean this is proper behavior?
489. # [02:48] <hub> reuben: they seem to be hiring a lot
490. # [02:48] <@roc> taras: his comment means there's a bug
491. # [02:49] <dholbert> reuben, I wouldn't say "stealing a lot". A few prominent people have moved there, not all of them directly
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495. # [02:50] <dholbert> reuben, (anyway -- don't want to get into a conversation about recruiting; just wanted to let you know the reason he's been less active :))
496. # [02:50] <reuben> dholbert, right, thanks :)
497. # [02:50] <hobophobe> Is there an intrade market on when Facebook will launch their own browser?
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502. # [02:51] <joe> hobophobe: hasfacebookboughtoperayet.com
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505. # [02:52] <hub> joe: NXDOMAIN
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510. # [02:56] <philor> mbrubeck: a bunch of tegras came back this week, if you look at who ran your busted reftests you'll probably find that they are freshly returned from doing the same sort of thing
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515. # [02:59] <JonathanS> "Google's Motorola unit has confirmed plans to release its first smartphone powered by an Intel chip." Fascanting
516. # [03:00] <taras> roc: thanks for the translation
517. # [03:00] <taras> tn saved me a lot of time by confirming this
518. # [03:01] <JonathanS> I hope Mozilla didn't created ASM assembly for Firefox in Android.
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534. # [03:12] <tn> taras, yeah, i think when neil added size constraint stuff it created this bug
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536. # [03:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c568c60f284e - Ben Turner - Bug 786771 - Fix for 'ASSERTION: Must have an actor here'. r=mrbkap.
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542. # [03:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3eb0de1d8c3b - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 674477 Don't scroll around axis whose overflow is hidden by wheel events r=smaug
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546. # [03:17] <tantek> re: javascript in the URL bar - Safari 6 still supports it, as it does user style sheets
547. # [03:17] <tantek> btw, the rumors of sites supposedly encouraging users to execute javascript in their URL bar after they'd logged into facebook for the promise of a free ipad or whatever - I can't find it. citation please?
548. # [03:17] <tantek> cc: Jesse
549. # [03:18] <tantek> oh yeah, and Safari still has "View Source" where it belongs - in the damn "View" menu
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552. # [03:18] <tantek> if Apple's minimalist design aesthetic can keep such "developer" specific features, why can't Firefox?
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554. # [03:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5502417dfd4e - Joe Olivas - Bug 786789 - Optimize TimeDuration::ToSeconds on Windows to avoid blocked store forwards; r=ehsan
555. # [03:19] <Jesse> meh. safari is just an old browser.
556. # [03:20] <Jesse> tantek: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527530#c70
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558. # [03:20] <tantek> Jesse - this is in Safari *6* (released fairly recentliy)
559. # [03:20] <tantek> recently even
560. # [03:20] <Jesse> safari 6 is still an ancient browser
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563. # [03:21] <Jesse> safari makes you set a pref to get the advanced developer tool
564. # [03:21] <tantek> Jesse, thanks for the citation. And damn that sucks.
565. # [03:21] <Jesse> safari lacks most of the security improvements that other browsers have made over the last few years
566. # [03:22] <tantek> Safari at least has a friggin *Develop* menu
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568. # [03:22] <tantek> whereas we relegate "Web Developer" to the "Tools" menu ghetto
569. # [03:22] <tantek> hierarchical menus are quite sucky for usability
570. # [03:22] <tantek> hit rate etc.
571. # [03:23] <tantek> oh, and when you enable that Develop menu, it doesn't magically remove the other items
572. # [03:23] <@khuey> #fx-team is that way ->
573. # [03:24] <tantek> heh. thanks khuey. :)
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576. # [03:26] <tantek> oh dear - quite easy to find more reports (and scams) just by searching for type j then paste: https://www.google.com/search?q="type+j+then+paste"
577. # [03:26] <tantek> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22type+j+then+paste%22
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586. # [03:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7940f39c867 - L. David Baron - Remove now-unneeded code from nsComputedDOMStyle. (Bug 93725, patch 3) r=jdaggett
587. # [03:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af0b960c0418 - L. David Baron - Print which bits have errors to try to distinguish overwriting from hardware problems. (Bug 785737) r=roc
588. # [03:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e11ebbe2341 - L. David Baron - Don't accept the third argument to transform-origin when 3-D transforms aren't enabled. (Bug 786706) r=mattwoodrow
589. # [03:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/befc74223da1 - L. David Baron - Make author !important rules override CSS animations. (Bug 783714) r=bzbarsky
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591. # [03:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/969f3050f9af - L. David Baron - Add some missing values to test as shown by code coverage data on nsComputedDOMStyle.cpp . No bug.
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625. # [03:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/856299bce84f - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 773460; backout the changes to b2g.js because they are unnecessary. r=cjones
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629. # [03:56] <froydnj> hm. no ehsan. what is SfN?
630. # [03:57] <@khuey> signal from noise
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636. # [03:59] <froydnj> well, yes, but what is *that*? it sounded like some project
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641. # [04:01] <reuben> froydnj, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Projects/Signal_From_Noise
642. # [04:01] <@khuey> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Projects/Signal_From_Noise
643. # [04:01] <reuben> *cough* first google result *cough*
644. # [04:01] <@khuey> indeed
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646. # [04:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e1c6122fa93 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 772782 - Add extra PresShell check in DocAccessible creation. r=surkov
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654. # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6885860f1319 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 773460; backout the Linux pref. r=roc
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660. # [04:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0b07ef904ea - Gordon P. Hemsley - Bug 672448 - Allow Accept-Language header to have quality ('q') values up to 3 decimal places. r=biesi
661. # [04:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c8d85acebce - Shane Caraveo - Bug 785952 - Fix arrow panel issues with side arrows and RTL. r=enn
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666. # [04:13] <GPHemsley> (Oh, shoot, looks like I never updated the commit message to reflect the change to 2 decimal places...)
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672. # [04:22] <froydnj> I thought 3 was a tad excessive :)
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675. # [04:23] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: remember that thing I told you about famous last words?
676. # [04:23] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: Well, not sure a try push would've helped the matter. :P
677. # [04:23] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: maybe
678. # [04:23] <GPHemsley> (Since there actually already is one with that commit message)
679. # [04:24] <RyanVM> dunno why warnings as errors isn't enabled on Try...
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682. # [04:24] <RyanVM> NullHttpTransaction.cpp
683. # [04:24] <RyanVM> cc1plus: warnings being treated as errors
684. # [04:24] <jgilbert> RyanVM: because burning inbound is so much more fun?
685. # [04:24] <RyanVM> ../../../../netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpHandler.cpp: In function 'nsresult PrepareAcceptLanguages(const char*, nsACString_internal&)':
686. # [04:24] <RyanVM> ../../../../netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpHandler.cpp:1271:32: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
687. # [04:24] <RyanVM> ../../../../netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpHandler.cpp:1274:32: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
688. # [04:24] <RyanVM> easy fix?
689. # [04:24] <GPHemsley> froydnj: That became even more clear when we actually did the math.
690. # [04:24] <froydnj> netwerk w-a-e landed very recently
691. # [04:25] <reuben> I accidentally qfin'd a patch, how can I undo that?
692. # [04:25] <RyanVM> reuben: qimport it
693. # [04:25] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: Oh, I didn't realize you were referring to inbound burning >_<
694. # [04:25] <RyanVM> reuben: hg out to get the cset, then |hg qimport -r cset|
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697. # [04:26] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: yeah....
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699. # [04:26] <reuben> RyanVM, thanks :)
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701. # [04:26] <jgilbert> there's also hg strip, yeah?
702. # [04:26] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: Well, I do have to admit I'm not a C++ programmer. >_>
703. # [04:26] <RyanVM> jgilbert: not if you want the patch back in your queue :)
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705. # [04:26] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: I have a one-strike policy for bustage fixing
706. # [04:26] <jgilbert> RyanVM: \I suppose\ :P
707. # [04:26] <RyanVM> one strike and you're backed out
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709. # [04:27] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: K... how do I fix it?
710. # [04:27] <RyanVM> hey, you're the programmer here :P
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712. # [04:27] <GPHemsley> :P
713. # [04:27] <RyanVM> if you're not sure what the fix is offhand, I'll just back you out
714. # [04:28] <GPHemsley> OK... but I wanna fix it for the next time around... Is there a C++ doctor in the house?
715. # [04:28] <jgilbert> GPHemsley: try |const char*| instead of |char*| for qval_str
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717. # [04:28] <RyanVM> jgilbert: how confident are you in that?
718. # [04:28] <padenot> jgilbert++
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720. # [04:29] <jgilbert> RyanVM: not greatly, since string constants are always a bit wonky
721. # [04:29] <padenot> ah
722. # [04:29] <jgilbert> Ryan, GPHemsley: You can also just force the cast, though
723. # [04:29] <padenot> there is a NS_something
724. # [04:29] <padenot> for string constants
725. # [04:29] <RyanVM> hmm, that doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement
726. # [04:29] <GPHemsley> :)
727. # [04:30] <jgilbert> to the googles
728. # [04:30] <RyanVM> backing out - sort it out in the bug :)
729. # [04:30] <GPHemsley> k
730. # [04:30] <GPHemsley> that'll give me the chance to fix the commit message, too
731. # [04:30] <jgilbert> aww :P
732. # [04:31] <jgilbert> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8126512/deprecated-conversion-from-string-constant-to-char
733. # [04:31] <RyanVM> jgilbert: feel free to comment in the bug :P
734. # [04:31] <jgilbert> I shall dig up the bug number from the ashes of the inbound fire
735. # [04:32] <padenot> GPHemsley: use NS_LITERAL_STRING and you should be find
736. # [04:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2855dfc9e789 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 69154d62012c and b0b07ef904ea (bug 672448) due to warnings-as-errors red.
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738. # [04:32] <padenot> GPHemsley: or NS_LITERAL_CSTRING depending on what you do
739. # [04:32] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: Aw, you coulda left the whitespace fix in :P
740. # [04:33] <philor> EVERYBODY OUT OF THE POOL!
741. # [04:33] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: in retrospect....yes :P
742. # [04:34] <GPHemsley> padenot: What's the difference?
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744. # [04:36] <jgilbert> padenot: const char* is more accurate, anyways :p
745. # [04:37] <padenot> jgilbert: man, it's gecko, we need to put macros everywhere
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747. # [04:37] <padenot> GPHemsley: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide#Literal_Strings
748. # [04:37] <jgilbert> padenot: it's true. Better wrap additions, just in case.
749. # [04:37] <GPHemsley> yeah, already reading :)
750. # [04:37] <GPHemsley> Would NAMED be appropriate here, or no?
751. # [04:38] <jgilbert> I would *really* just use const char* here
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753. # [04:38] <padenot> named version declares it so you can use multiple time throughout the code, actually
754. # [04:38] <GPHemsley> well, what I'm doing here is setting it to one thing in one condition or another thing in another condition
755. # [04:39] <padenot> then go with the non-named one, I guess
756. # [04:39] <GPHemsley> it's only intended as a placeholder in order to avoid duplicating code
757. # [04:39] <padenot> but I haven't looked to much
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759. # [04:40] <GPHemsley> if(x) { q = "x" } else { q = "y" }
760. # [04:40] <jgilbert> it'd be cleaner with just c types. I don't think super-portable-compatability macros are needed here
761. # [04:40] <GPHemsley> where q is the string in question
762. # [04:40] <jgilbert> you could just use a trinary operator :P
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764. # [04:40] <padenot> dunno, someone said to me that if I wasn't using the macro, I'll die in a fire
765. # [04:40] <jgilbert> oh, well it's not *quite* just that
766. # [04:40] <GPHemsley> jgilbert: Well, this is oversimplified... I do other things in the if
767. # [04:40] <jgilbert> there's also a touch of logic in there
768. # [04:41] <jgilbert> exactly
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771. # [04:41] <jgilbert> padenot: in the spirit of 'style of surrounding code', probably doesn't need it here
772. # [04:42] <GPHemsley> padenot: I don't understand how the macro would work here
773. # [04:42] <@roc> does C++ allow templated constructors, like template <int N> Constructor(const char arg[N]) ?
774. # [04:42] <jgilbert> padenot: just use a |goto| to get out of the fire? :P
775. # [04:42] <padenot> heh
776. # [04:42] <jgilbert> roc: at first glance, probably
777. # [04:43] <jgilbert> well, yeah, it should
778. # [04:43] <jgilbert> the only question is if it differentiates the correct template N
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780. # [04:44] <jgilbert> like, if you give it new Const("foo"), does it recognize that it should have N=4?
781. # [04:44] <GPHemsley> what about nsAutoString?
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783. # [04:45] <@roc> jgilbert: that works for normal templated functions; NS_LITERAL_(C)STRING depends on it
784. # [04:45] <jgilbert> GPHemsley: sure, but it's *really* overkill here
785. # [04:46] <jgilbert> roc: ok, well then great :D
786. # [04:46] <GPHemsley> so... const char * then?
787. # [04:46] <jgilbert> I suppose it must, so as to support the sizeof(foo)/sizeof(*foo), too
788. # [04:46] <jgilbert> GPHemsley: that still has my vote
789. # [04:46] <GPHemsley> jgilbert: OK, I'll blame you if things go wrong :)
790. # [04:47] <jgilbert> GPHemsley: you could always Try it ;)
791. # [04:47] <GPHemsley> (because I have no idea what I'm doing)
792. # [04:47] <@roc> so, NS_LITERAL_CSTRING could be replaced with nsDependentCString and some template magic to make nsDependentCString("foo") efficient
793. # [04:47] <jgilbert> hah
794. # [04:47] <GPHemsley> RyanVM would probably like that
795. # [04:48] <RyanVM> I think I speak on behalf of all the sheriffs when I say yes, I would like that :)
796. # [04:48] <reuben> roc, no
797. # [04:48] <@roc> no?
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799. # [04:49] <reuben> roc, you can't do that in a constructor
800. # [04:50] <reuben> GPHemsley, I have this in my ~/.hgrc to review commit messages before pushing: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1784297
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808. # [04:54] <GPHemsley> reuben: Thanks, I'll think about that. (Not sure it would have helped here, though.)
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810. # [04:55] <reuben> GPHemsley, that was replying to your earlier message, "(Oh, shoot, looks like I never updated the commit message to reflect the change to 2 decimal places...)"
811. # [04:55] <GPHemsley> No, I know. I'm just not sure I would have realized that I'd forgotten, even after I'd read it.
812. # [04:55] <GPHemsley> but who knows
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821. # [05:00] <@roc> ok, so getting rid of NS_LITERAL_CSTRING and NS_LITERAL_STRING is still a pain
822. # [05:01] <reuben> roc, ah, it does work, I just forgot that it has to be an array reference – const char (&arg)[n]
823. # [05:01] <@roc> so it does
824. # [05:02] <@roc> ok, but we'd still need 16-bit char literals to be supported everywhere
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829. # [05:07] <@roc> and VC++11 doesn't support them, so that'll be a long time coming
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831. # [05:12] <tbsaunde> roc: why do we need 16 bit char literals to kill NS_LIUTERAL_CSTRING?
832. # [05:12] <@roc> only for NS_LITERAL_STRING
833. # [05:12] * Mook wonders what sort of char literals this is; not L"foo"?
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835. # [05:13] <ddahl> anyone know the bug number of whatever is keeping me from interacting/scrolling a page before some event fires? Page loading is like molasses
836. # [05:13] <@roc> the problem is that VC++ wants L"foo" but the standard is u"foo"
837. # [05:13] <@roc> NS_LITERAL_STRING abstracts over the difference. Of course, you can't abstract over the difference without using a macro.
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839. # [05:14] <Mook> ah, right, and the point is to remove the macro :)
840. # [05:14] <ddahl> hmm maybe that is a new addon
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842. # [05:15] <Mook> (unless you're crazy enough to #define u L ... assuming that works)
843. # [05:16] <@roc> I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work, even if it was a good idea, which it isn't
844. # [05:16] <Mook> yeah, that's a reasonable name for vector components and things, so that'd be... bad
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855. # [05:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5cc178c43025 - Gina Yeh - Bug 786596 - v1: get device type information. r=qdot, sr=mrbkap
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904. # [06:04] <FusedTogether> how long does an average thunderbird build take on windows?
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906. # [06:07] <Callek> FusedTogether: entirely depends on your system, and partially on if you use pymake or GNUMake, and if you specified a -jN option
907. # [06:08] <Callek> for me ~45 minutes for a "from scratch" build. But depending on your system, and options it could easily take 5 hours.
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909. # [06:08] <Callek> "Dep[end] Builds" can be significantly faster
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912. # [06:10] <FusedTogether> thanks for the info, I guess I'm going to bed and let it build
913. # [06:11] <Jesse> FusedTogether: depends, are you willing to spend the first 30 minutes installing linux?
914. # [06:12] <FusedTogether> nah, not my thing :)
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943. # [06:30] <@smaug> er
944. # [06:30] <@smaug> dxr
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946. # [06:31] <njn> does IonMonkey use type inference?
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948. # [06:32] <Mook> \o/ that dxr dev instance appears to have substring search
949. # [06:32] <@roc> njn: yes
950. # [06:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8fbe6ae6f69a - Matthew Gregan - Bug 785967 - Reject Wave files with invalid data block size in the format chunk. r=doublec a=lsblakk
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955. # [06:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d009a6123bb8 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 756885 - Bail out of test_bug624329.xul early on 10.8, where win.maximize() gives us a resize without actually maximizing
956. # [06:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/673d1c8e52bb - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 744125 - Disable test_pointerlock-api.html on 10.8, too
957. # [06:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e089585d5aff - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 786918 - Fix test_platform_colors.xul for 10.8
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959. # [06:51] <@smaug> argh, not again
960. # [06:51] <@smaug> FF taking all the cpu power
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967. # [06:54] <@dolske> smaug: khuey needs to fix the power leak
968. # [06:54] <@smaug> I fixed that one
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970. # [06:54] <@smaug> there is somethingelse
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972. # [06:55] <@smaug> I think FF UI is calling setTimout or requestAnimationFrame in a loop
973. # [06:55] <@smaug> but I need to get some better profile
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1030. # [08:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b132293a4701 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 786593 - Moving a tab to a different window leaves other tabs shifted in the source window. r=jaws
1031. # [08:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70279dff03be - Dão Gottwald - Bug 786406 - Move the tab drag image away from the cursor to prevent it from obscuring the dragged tab. r=jaws
1032. # [08:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15ba0cb05686 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 786291 - Dragging a pinned tab is jerky when the tab strip overflows. r=jaws
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1038. # [08:06] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/08/30/happy-bmo-push-day-11/
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1040. # [08:09] <philor> happy bmo 'glob probably won't be reading your bugmail if you don't have editbugs' day!
1041. # [08:09] <glob> philor, heh :)
1042. # [08:10] <glob> philor, looks like that's been fixed. i love testing profanivore :D
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1049. # [08:17] <philor> oh, not toolkit, no wonder
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1053. # [08:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9659ba8dfa67 - Eric Chou - Bug 777665 - patch 1: Hook up settings to Bluetooth. r=qdot, sr=mrbkap
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1060. # [08:29] <philor> oh, sweet, file handing is unowned, I can just kill the test!
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1073. # [08:44] <njn> firebot: uuid
1074. # [08:44] <firebot> 46a09443-ec1d-4aa8-ae40-28642f138a04 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
1075. # [08:44] <njn> thanks, firebot
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1081. # [08:51] <markh> I'm about to check into inbound a fix for an orange - the orange also exists on aurora - what steps should I take to get it landed there too?
1082. # [08:51] <philor> appending "a=test-only" to the commit message and committing it there is a pretty effective way
1083. # [08:52] <philor> bonus points if you wait a few days to be sure you really fixed it :)
1084. # [08:52] <markh> philor: ok, great - I'll add the leave-open magic flag to the bug in the meantime
1085. # [08:52] <philor> if that makes you nervous, you can certainly request approval-aurora, and explain that it's test only, and they'll approve it happily
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1087. # [08:53] <markh> nah - I think I can live with that level of risk :)
1088. # [08:53] <philor> no need to leave open, that's only for when you know that the bug isn't fixed
1089. # [08:53] <markh> oh - I was going to do that so I didn't forget it :)
1090. # [08:54] <philor> time to approval is probably actually just about right for a reminder to push, really
1091. # [08:58] <markh> philor: so just to be clear, land it on inbound as normal, then mark the attachment as requesting approval‑mozilla‑aurora? I guess the bug might be closed once it is merged from inbound, but the a+ for aurora should still remind me, right?
1092. # [08:58] <philor> markh: exactly right
1093. # [08:58] <markh> great, thanks
1094. # [09:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b0b56afa33a - Mark Hammond - Bug 786085 - fix intermittent orange in browser_notifications.js. r=gavin
1095. # [09:01] <philor> and then when you land on aurora, change that "affected" that I probably just mid-aired you with to "fixed"
1096. # [09:01] <markh> will do, thx
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1116. # [09:19] <@smaug> argh, not again
1117. # [09:20] <@smaug> latest Nightly seems to be horrible
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1119. # [09:24] <Optimizer> smaug: What happened ?
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1122. # [09:24] <Optimizer> I feel its very responsive (compared to a few days back)
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1124. # [09:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/989f2d81bd15 - Landry Breuil - Bug 785738 Part 5: restore a PRUint64, fix an OpenBSD build failure. r=ehsan
1125. # [09:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b523c75e74b8 - Landry Breuil - Bug 785738 Part 2: use PRTime in nsDirIndex to match the idl. r=ehsan
1126. # [09:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc8e76eb1479 - Landry Breuil - Bug 785738 Part 1: Use INT64_MAX/MIN instead of LL_MAXINT/MININT constants. r=ehsan
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1128. # [09:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5108cd2d7306 - Landry Breuil - Bug 785738 Part 4: Use PRTime where appropriate under rdf/. r=ehsan
1129. # [09:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78648d135093 - Landry Breuil - Bug 785738 Part 3: use PRTime instead of int64_t where appropriate; r=ehsan
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1131. # [09:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6442238886ea - Landry Breuil - Bug 785738 Part 6: use PRTime where appropriate, and add reinterpret_casts to int64_t in corresponding GetInt64 calls. r=ehsan
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1133. # [09:27] <@smaug> Optimizer: it ends up using all cpu power
1134. # [09:27] <@smaug> this is the same problem I saw week before last week
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1136. # [09:27] <Optimizer> weird
1137. # [09:27] <Optimizer> Linux ?
1138. # [09:27] <@smaug> but this is now happening very often
1139. # [09:27] <@smaug> yes, Linux
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1141. # [09:28] <Optimizer> on Windows its very good past 2 days
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1144. # [09:28] <gaston> is there a bug for the abort: empty revision set
1145. # [09:28] <gaston> warning: post-push hook exited with status 255
1146. # [09:28] <gaston> message when pushing ?
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1152. # [09:29] <Optimizer> smaug: that was the fastest restart ever
1153. # [09:30] <@smaug> I just restarted the browser
1154. # [09:30] <@smaug> (and chatzilla)
1155. # [09:31] <@smaug> ok, now FF is down to 0% cpu
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1157. # [09:31] <Optimizer> any bad addon ?
1158. # [09:32] <@smaug> I was testing addons last time, and no
1159. # [09:32] <@smaug> I believe this is something in FF UI which is causing lots of setTimeout calls
1160. # [09:33] <@smaug> that is at least what sysprof profile hints
1161. # [09:33] <Optimizer> (I should enable chrome mode for TImeline)
1162. # [09:33] <@smaug> there is also some requestAnimationFrame thing
1163. # [09:33] <Optimizer> were you dragging tabs ?
1164. # [09:33] <Optimizer> recently tab drag animation landed
1165. # [09:33] <@smaug> ah, hmm
1166. # [09:34] <@smaug> what is that
1167. # [09:34] <Optimizer> that might cause timeout or animation frame
1168. # [09:34] <@smaug> ah, I see
1169. # [09:34] <Optimizer> drag a tab to the right, and it now moves with you
1170. # [09:34] <Optimizer> (drag on the tab strip)
1171. # [09:34] <Optimizer> !seen jdm
1172. # [09:34] <firebot> jdm was last seen 9 hours, 32 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'who wants to help me figure out what's up?' in #developers.
1173. # [09:34] * philor|away is now known as philor
1174. # [09:35] <@smaug> I don't think it is that drag thing
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1176. # [09:35] <@smaug> since I've seen this problem already before
1177. # [09:35] <Optimizer> how long ago ?
1178. # [09:36] <@smaug> about two weeks
1179. # [09:36] * glob|away is now known as glob
1180. # [09:36] <Optimizer> ok..
1181. # [09:38] <glandium> smaug: i've had aurora sucking more and more cpu since 16 hit aurora
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1183. # [09:39] <@smaug> hmmm
1184. # [09:39] <@smaug> more and more meaning how much?
1185. # [09:40] <@smaug> glandium: also, any profile?
1186. # [09:40] <glandium> smaug: not a lot, but it's usually around 7% when doing "nothing"
1187. # [09:40] <@smaug> the problem I see is that first browser behaves ok, but then suddenly it starts to take 80-100% cpu and closing tabs or anything like that doesn't help.
1188. # [09:41] <glandium> but i think yammer is to blame
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1190. # [09:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a95de502ec1 - Chris Lord - Bug 786672 - Use the scrolled frame for nsDisplayScrollLayer when finding the active scrolled root. r=roc
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1193. # [09:44] <Asa> this is not a good looking number:
1194. # [09:44] <Asa> 2,400.85 MB (100.0%) -- explicit
1195. # [09:44] <Asa> ├──1,486.95 MB (61.93%) ── heap-unclassified
1196. # [09:44] <Asa> ├────537.24 MB (22.38%) -- window-objects
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1199. # [09:44] <Asa> I hate heap-unclassified.
1200. # [09:44] <@smaug> Asa: the usual... create CC log and send it to me and mccr8
1201. # [09:45] <jesup> Asa: we've gotten better at classifying, that high a number usually points at something
1202. # [09:45] <Asa> ok.
1203. # [09:45] <Optimizer> that is too much
1204. # [09:45] <Optimizer> never I have seen
1205. # [09:45] <Optimizer> :)
1206. # [09:46] <@smaug> karl: you use linux, right? Have you seen anything like Bug 786940
1207. # [09:46] <jesup> smaug: we need a "dump CC log" button on about:memory...
1208. # [09:46] <@smaug> possibly
1209. # [09:46] * @smaug doesn't use about:memory
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1211. # [09:46] <Optimizer> what is CC log ?
1212. # [09:46] <Optimizer> GC/CC logs ?
1213. # [09:46] <@smaug> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Cycle_collector_heap_dump
1214. # [09:47] <NeilAway> jcranmer++
1215. # [09:47] <Optimizer> so for that you need to have that thing running by default (for a button, that is)
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1217. # [09:47] <sawrubh> glob: ping
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1219. # [09:48] <@smaug> Optimizer: we could have a button to create GC and CC logs
1220. # [09:48] <Optimizer> and that would then enable logs for some time and dump them ?
1221. # [09:48] <@smaug> and it should also tell where it created them
1222. # [09:48] <@smaug> no
1223. # [09:48] <@smaug> logs are created at once
1224. # [09:48] <Asa> that would make it easier on people like me
1225. # [09:48] <jesup> I had one that looked like: 7,458.48 MB (100.0%) -- explicit ├──7,221.26 MB (96.82%) ── heap-unclassified -- though I'll admit memory reporter failed while generating it. (6.8GB resident, 9.8GB VMsize)
1226. # [09:48] <@smaug> GC runs and it creates logs , same with CC
1227. # [09:49] <Optimizer> Ah, only one time logs
1228. # [09:49] <Optimizer> not so useful, I think ?
1229. # [09:49] <@smaug> well, if we want to analyze what is taking the memory, we need some logs
1230. # [09:49] <Optimizer> jesup: what is your overall RAM ?
1231. # [09:49] <jesup> right, the reason I suggested a button (we we can tell someone to press it)
1232. # [09:50] <@smaug> yup
1233. # [09:50] * @smaug files a bug
1234. # [09:50] <Asa> my firefox seems hanged trying to create this cc log
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1237. # [09:52] <Callek> Asa: it *WILL* appear frozen for a while
1238. # [09:52] <Asa> Callek: OK.
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1240. # [09:52] <jesup> Optimizer: 16GB. I hit a site (after running this instance for 6 weeks!) that chews mozilla alive, added a ton of mem usage, and was blocking the event loop for 15 seconds at a time every 10 seconds or so. I later tried it in a new empty browser, and it was still evil, though that time I got a script warning
1241. # [09:53] * Callek has had Firefox "seem hung" for 5 minutes once creating that log himself
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1243. # [09:53] <Callek> on an i7 sandy"
1244. # [09:53] <Ms2ger> khuey|away, http://people.mozilla.org/~sfink/uploads/update-uuids
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1247. # [09:54] <jesup> Optimizer: loading about:memory would cause it to bounce off the ~15.8GB limit and then drop back to ~7GB res, 10GB vmsize
1248. # [09:54] <@smaug> creating the log is synchronous and may end up creating rather large file
1249. # [09:54] <Optimizer> is 16GB any better than 8 ? (just a normal tech question)
1250. # [09:54] <@smaug> Callek: it is all about I/O, not CPU, I think, when creating logs
1251. # [09:55] <Callek> smaug: yea, I suspect that is entirely accurate -- the CC logs are not skimpy
1252. # [09:55] <gaston> switched all my remainings gcc 4.2 builders to a modern compiler.. feels like the end of an era.
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1254. # [09:55] <@smaug> though, nowadays cc logs should be quite small
1255. # [09:56] <Callek> smaug: oo really?
1256. # [09:56] * @smaug has currently 2200 objects in the CC graph
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1258. # [09:56] <@smaug> that is about the normal
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1260. # [09:56] <Optimizer> for me, CC takes not more than 10 ms ever, many a times its 0ms
1261. # [09:56] <@smaug> well, ok, if you create the log using allTraces() option, then the log will be huge
1262. # [09:57] <@smaug> Optimizer: we're talking about the time it takes to create the log
1263. # [09:57] <Optimizer> oh
1264. # [09:57] <Callek> I think when I ran it for my log last, it was 12000 objects
1265. # [09:57] <Callek> but I also think it was no more recent than 13-on-trunk
1266. # [09:57] <glob> sawrubh, pong
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1269. # [09:58] <@smaug> 12000 is still not horrible, but in general if I see anything over 5k, I suspect something is leaking or not optimized out from CC
1270. # [09:58] <Asa> where does this error log end up when it's completed?
1271. # [09:59] <@smaug> error console tells you
1272. # [09:59] <@smaug> /tmp/cc-edges.... on linux
1273. # [09:59] <@smaug> don't recall about osx
1274. # [09:59] <@smaug> Asa: is it still doing something?
1275. # [09:59] <@smaug> it really shouldn't take more than few seconds
1276. # [10:00] <Asa> then my browser is really hung
1277. # [10:00] <Asa> :(
1278. # [10:00] <jesup> Optimizer: is more ram ever not better? :-) Seriously, it rocks when you have aliases like "cfind" to grep the entire repo, which once cached in ram takes a second or two
1279. # [10:00] <@smaug> Asa: or perhaps you're swapping
1280. # [10:00] <Optimizer> well, I don't use Linux so grepping is a hard thing :P
1281. # [10:00] <@smaug> that might make everything very slow
1282. # [10:00] <jesup> Asa: don't assume it's dead too fast
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1284. # [10:01] <jesup> Optimizer: grep is available for everything
1285. # [10:01] <Optimizer> not on windows cmd prompt
1286. # [10:02] <Optimizer> and I said hard, not impossible
1287. # [10:02] <jesup> Optimizer: if you're in the msys mozilla-build env, it's there. Even cleaner (generally) in cygwin
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1289. # [10:03] <Optimizer> I agree. But me not being a fan of linux and bash scripting, its a rare thing to use all the 16 GB for a grep :)
1290. # [10:03] <Optimizer> But for me*
1291. # [10:03] <sawrubh> glob: on the list of bugs that's generated on bugzilla, could we have the dates displayed, right then there next to the bugs, in case of unresolved bugs they can be the last modified date and in case of resolved ones they can be the resolution date. I personally have to open up each individual bugs to see the date when I fixed them, also sometimes I want to sort them by oldest to newest
1292. # [10:04] <gaston> does anyone has a .platform link for the reasons behind ditching gcc 4.2 that i can keep as a ref ?
1293. # [10:04] <sawrubh> glob: is this UI and UX wise appropriate
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1295. # [10:05] <glob> sawrubh, you can add both columns to your buglist columns
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1297. # [10:05] <glob> sawrubh, we can't make them conditional
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1302. # [10:08] <jesup> Optimizer: use your preferred search tool - once the files have all been accessed, it's fast. The nice thing about "cfind"/etc (basically find with a pattern to grab c/cpp/cc/etc files without getting objdir files, temp/backup files, .hg/* etc) is that it only touches the files you're interested in. And if you're not a fan of linux/bash scripting, I really hope you're not a fan of Windows...
1303. # [10:08] <jesup> ...CMD scripting... ;-)
1304. # [10:11] <sawrubh> glob: are they in the preferences ?
1305. # [10:13] <glob> sawrubh, on the search results page, "change columns" (bottom-ish of the page)
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1314. # [10:23] <Asa> yay. i finally got a cc log
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1320. # [10:25] <jesup> asa: it can take a while ;-)
1321. # [10:25] <jesup> especially if you're paging
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1323. # [10:26] <Asa> :)
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1327. # [10:31] <sawrubh> glob: ty, now the searches look much more meaningful :)
1328. # [10:31] <glob> sawrubh, yw
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1330. # [10:31] <glazou> bonjour
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1332. # [10:31] <sawrubh> glazou: Guten Morgen
1333. # [10:32] <gfritzsche> morning
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1344. # [10:39] <KWierso> glob: did html bugmail get disabled?
1345. # [10:39] <glob> KWierso, yes, but i'll probably be re-enabling it very soon
1346. # [10:39] <glob> looks like today's push fixed the problem
1347. # [10:39] <KWierso> woo
1348. # [10:40] <Optimizer> jesup: naa, I don't like cmd scripting at all :P
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1350. # [10:42] <Optimizer> I like bash scripting more
1351. # [10:42] <Optimizer> but I am not a fan :)
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1354. # [10:46] <glob> KWierso, re-eneabled
1355. # [10:46] <KWierso> glob++
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1365. # [10:59] <gabor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737003
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1367. # [10:59] <gabor> whoops wrong channel...
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1372. # [11:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a3880447079 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 786736 - Initialize nsSVGOuterSVGFrame::mFullZoom to the full-zoom value in the ctor. r=roc.
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1394. # [11:44] <nthomas|away> was there some massive code fail that happened about 1300 Pacific today ?
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1396. # [11:48] <nthomas|away> n/m, found it
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1402. # [11:52] <darktrojan> time travelling code?
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1419. # [12:27] <gaston> great, m-c doesnt even compile with gcc 4.6 because of skia's -mssse3 madness
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1422. # [12:40] <nthomas|away> edmorley: ping
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1424. # [12:40] <edmorley> nthomas: hi :-)
1425. # [12:40] <nthomas> hey
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1427. # [12:41] <nthomas> so bug 786914, lots of slaves coming back online in quick succession -> lots of build/tools clones against hg -> failage
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1429. # [12:42] <edmorley> nthomas: so "expected but will resolve after retriggers"? :-)
1430. # [12:44] <nthomas> hmm, actually it might just be one slave that's screwed
1431. # [12:45] <edmorley> even better :-)
1432. # [12:45] <nthomas> yeah, talos-mtnlion-r5-080 went rogue
1433. # [12:45] <nthomas> swallowed up bunch of try jobs
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1441. # [12:56] <glandium> someone with a windows install of a nightly can give me the contents of dependentlibs.list?
1442. # [12:57] <Ms2ger> Not it :)
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1445. # [12:57] <gaston> compilers & toolchains will kill me
1446. # [12:58] <gaston> fucking ssse3 supported by the compiler but not the assembler
1447. # [13:00] <gaston> glandium: is there an example for a configure test checking for asm support for an instructio n?
1448. # [13:01] <gaston> (besides the thing i did for@unwind sections)
1449. # [13:01] <edmorley> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1785012
1450. # [13:01] <glandium> gaston: a compile test with inline assembly?
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1452. # [13:02] <glandium> edmorley: thanks
1453. # [13:02] <gaston> yes, something like that checking that as supports pmaddubsw instuction
1454. # [13:02] <edmorley> glandium: np
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1456. # [13:03] <gaston> see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786995
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1458. # [13:04] <gaston> or maybe doing echo '.text\npmaddubsw %xmm2,%xmm3' > foo.s && gcc foo.s will do the trick
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1472. # [13:10] <gaston> are there aurora hg bundles around ? two times in a row i got disconnected by the remote server
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1474. # [13:11] <nthomas> yes, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bundles/
1475. # [13:11] <gaston> thanks
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1489. # [13:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/60d7baaf6ba2 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 778582 (r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk)
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1494. # [13:39] <Ms2ger> edmorley, got a bug for "Initialization of new profile failed" on rck2?
1495. # [13:40] <FusedTogether> is there a simple way to make a working visual studio project for thunderbird?
1496. # [13:41] <Ms2ger> No
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1505. # [13:47] <gaston> hm wasnt a bundle supposed to be standalone ? i cant unbundle it, it seem to require an existing repo
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1516. # [13:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19a91d0fd50b - Dão Gottwald - Bug 782453 - Add site-specific User Agent infrastructure and use it to fix AOL Mail. r=bz,ehsan sr=gerv
1517. # [14:00] <gaston> aaah i have to hg init a repo before unbundling it.
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1523. # [14:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: sorry, not that I can remember (or find)
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1525. # [14:07] <edmorley> Ms2ger: oh, that's bug 686085 ("failed to initialize browser")
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1530. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> Oh dear, that IM merge didn't go well
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1538. # [14:26] <Ms2ger> edmorley, how about "error pulling file '/mnt/sdcard/tests/browser_output.txt': No such file or directory"?
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1540. # [14:29] <edmorley> Ms2ger: where
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1542. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> IM tip, but I've seen it elsewhere
1543. # [14:29] <FusedTogether> If I wanted to have custom sorting/grouping and collapsing multiple mails into one, can this be done with an add-on? If it can, is it the preferred way or is it better to get the thunderbird src and edit the js files there (as it appears it's done in js and not in C++)?
1544. # [14:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: for both this and the previous, the bugs tend to be filed under what appears in the TBPL output below the empty summary box
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1546. # [14:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: so in this case "FAIL: browser non-zero return code (1) [browser_output.txt]"
1547. # [14:30] <gaston> FusedTogether: try conversations add-on
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1549. # [14:31] <FusedTogether> I have, it's not what I want
1550. # [14:31] <edmorley> Ms2ger: bug 686245
1551. # [14:32] <Ms2ger> Ta
1552. # [14:33] <FusedTogether> I would like the message list to be grouped by sender and ordered by the latest message of that sender, I don't think it's possible yet
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1577. # [14:54] <jimm> Enn: that looks like what I need. Although wouldn't a -moz css property be better than a xul attribute so that it could be used in html?
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1580. # [14:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5403164748f8 - Chris Jones - Bug 778261: Move this workaround back into the right place. r=fabrice
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1620. # [15:17] <paul> Sometimes, "hg qref -m" duplicates the header of a patch: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1785249 // doesn't anybody know how I can avoid that?
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1635. # [15:21] <paul> ok - found out the problem
1636. # [15:21] <paul> "hg qimport" messes with the header
1637. # [15:21] <paul> it's not a qref bug but a qimport bug
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1641. # [15:23] <NeilAway> jimm, Enn: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/association-of-controls-and-forms.html#attr-fe-inputmode says you should prefer use type="url" (or telephone or email)
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1646. # [15:26] <jimm> ah, so they are working on this.
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1649. # [15:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d451e7a34c93 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 786796 - Contacts API: make id, updated and published readonly. r=fabrice
1650. # [15:27] <jimm> NeilAway: do we implement stuff in the "Living Standard" or do we wait?
1651. # [15:27] <Ms2ger> jimm, we do
1652. # [15:27] <Enn> jimm: no you just need to add inputmode to the inherits list in the textbox binding
1653. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> mounir pushed for that to be added, IIRC
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1655. # [15:28] <gaston> froydnj: since you removed -pedantic under media/ (vpx/libtheora) in 786372, do you think we should do the same under ipc/chromium ? see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753046#c93
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1659. # [15:29] <NeilAway> Enn: so type="url" doesn't work but inputmode="url" does?
1660. # [15:29] <Enn> don't know
1661. # [15:29] <jimm> ah, I should have read farhter down in that bug
1662. # [15:30] <Ms2ger> gaston, we forked chromium, so I think we should fix it
1663. # [15:30] <gaston> which way ?
1664. # [15:30] <gaston> fix the warning or remove the pedantic ?
1665. # [15:30] <gaston> (i have a tentative fix near)
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1678. # [15:33] <Ms2ger> gaston, keep -pedantic, and listen to what it has to say
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1680. # [15:33] <gaston> oki
1681. # [15:34] <gaston> will fix then, or die tryin'
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1684. # [15:34] <gaston> the DFAKE_MUTEX one is tricky since if there's a ; after the macro it warns, and if i remove it it breaks debug builds
1685. # [15:35] <Ms2ger> Put the ; in the macro instead? :)
1686. # [15:36] <gaston> hmmmmmpffff
1687. # [15:36] <gaston> brain. doesnt. work. today.
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1689. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> You're lucky, mine doesn't ever :)
1690. # [15:36] <gaston> fixed too many subtle breakages in 3 days
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1696. # [15:37] <gaston> i cant believed how i got totally sucked into mozilla hacking in less than two years
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1699. # [15:38] <FusedTogether> what do you mean by "hacking"?
1700. # [15:39] <gaston> fixing bugs
1701. # [15:39] <gaston> building
1702. # [15:39] <gaston> rince, repeat
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1704. # [15:42] <FusedTogether> I find it confusing when people say "hacking" when they mean ordinary programming tasks
1705. # [15:42] <@bz> uh
1706. # [15:42] <@bz> wtf?
1707. # [15:42] <@bz> why is "Quit Safari" grayed out???
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1709. # [15:43] <gaston> FusedTogether: how would you call that in a single simple word then ?
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1713. # [15:46] <FusedTogether> bugfixing. programming. maybe.
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1716. # [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/31f60d0435cd - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 786886 - Force Pymake to spin up a shell for the signing command. r=gps
1717. # [15:48] <gaston> 'hacking' has been misused so many times with bad connotation that when it can be used properly..
1718. # [15:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c85bc58f10ba - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 786791 - MSYS mangles the signtool shlibsign cmd with Pymake because it begins with a space. pending-r=ted
1719. # [15:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2c482e333da8 - Siddharth Agarwal - Merge mozilla-central to build-system.
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1724. # [15:50] <Yoric> I agree with gaston's use of "hacking".
1725. # [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c85bc58f10ba - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 786791 - MSYS mangles the signtool shlibsign cmd with Pymake because it begins with a space. pending-r=ted
1726. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1bbbd84bba5 - Siddharth Agarwal - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound.
1727. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31f60d0435cd - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 786886 - Force Pymake to spin up a shell for the signing command. r=gps
1728. # [15:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c482e333da8 - Siddharth Agarwal - Merge mozilla-central to build-system.
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1743. # [16:03] <@bz> "For example, 51 percent of respondents, including a majority of Millennials, believe stormy weather can interfere with cloud computing."
1744. # [16:03] * @bz loves surveys
1745. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> Yay surveys
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1747. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> "No black person ever to vote Republican"
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1761. # [16:06] <NeilAway> FusedTogether: are you thinking of cracking perhaps?
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1767. # [16:07] <froydnj> bz: were you going to add the typed array fast path in bug 786903? I was going to take a crack at doing that this morning
1768. # [16:08] <jesup> bz: Safari goes down, kicking and screaming ;-)
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1770. # [16:09] <gaston> why is there _DEBUG and DEBUG #defines ?
1771. # [16:09] <bhearsum|buildduty> heh
1772. # [16:10] <@bz> "I'm using version 5 of firefox (using front motion if that makes a difference), yes I know this is out of date by quite a way but it's down to corporate policy!"
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1774. # [16:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> heh
1775. # [16:10] <@bz> froydnj: no, I was going to let someone else deal
1776. # [16:10] <@bz> froydnj: so feel free!
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1778. # [16:11] <jesup> bz: and so the reason for ESR - though sounds like that person might have problems even with that
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1780. # [16:12] <froydnj> bz: ok! (I came to the same conclusion you did and it looked like an easy bug, so...)
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1782. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> gaston, because just DEBUG and NS_DEBUG weren't enough
1783. # [16:14] <jcranmer> NeilAway: what for?
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1785. # [16:15] <NeilAway> jcranmer: I was guessing whose code coverage dbaron used earlier
1786. # [16:15] <jcranmer> ah
1787. # [16:15] <Ms2ger> gaston, though most of the _DEBUG ones seem to be in upstream code
1788. # [16:16] <gaston> ah indeed so many different upstreams..
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1844. # [16:43] <froydnj> bad upstream developers
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1851. # [16:47] <@bz> jesup: yeah, indeed, re ESR
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1856. # [16:51] <jlebar> Anyone know if there's an existing tool which lets you re-order files in a patch according to a rule? Like, ".h immediately before its corresponding .cpp", ".idl at the top", etc?
1857. # [16:51] <jlebar> There should be a tool for this.
1858. # [16:52] <gaston> awesome. hg unbundle running since nearly 3h,,
1859. # [16:52] <@bz> jlebar: seems like splitdiff + combinediff could be used for this....
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1862. # [16:53] <jlebar> bz: mm…yes! Thanks.
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1865. # [16:54] <@bz> jlebar: having bzexport automagically do this would rock
1866. # [16:54] <jlebar> bz: Well, if I write a script, then we can use it on import or export.
1867. # [16:54] <@bz> right
1868. # [16:54] <jlebar> bz: But I just got told that I'm giving a presentation in 15 minutes, so I need to disappear.
1869. # [16:54] <@bz> heh
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1871. # [16:55] <froydnj> jlebar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bikeshed/+bug/677814 might be a good starting point
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1878. # [16:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d1a5d4cda6ac - Gregor Wagner - Bug 787069 - B2G desktop build broken. r=bent
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1880. # [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20a41ae07b49 - Geoff Brown - Bug 787061 - Robocop: dump stack traces on event timeout; r=jmaher
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1919. # [17:22] <sid0> the m-c win debug failure doesn't even make sense
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1963. # [17:45] <froydnj> bz: hm, fun profile results there
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1972. # [17:48] <codemonkey> ehsan: here?
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1974. # [17:48] <@ehsan> codemonkey: yes
1975. # [17:49] <codemonkey> this is me ali from the code cleanup project, PRMIN, PRMAX bug
1976. # [17:49] <@ehsan> hey how
1977. # [17:49] <@ehsan> 's it going?
1978. # [17:49] <codemonkey> well, here's the thing
1979. # [17:49] <codemonkey> im on a mac
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1981. # [17:49] <codemonkey> i looked into man sed
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1984. # [17:50] <codemonkey> and i think on the mac, sed interprets -i -e 'command' as -i (extension to replace with = -e)
1985. # [17:50] <codemonkey> thats why it was adding a -e to the end
1986. # [17:50] <codemonkey> so, I replaced the line with
1987. # [17:50] <codemonkey> sed -i "" -e "s/\b$1\b/$2/g"
1988. # [17:50] <codemonkey> instead
1989. # [17:50] <gfritzsche> phew, just wasted quite a bit of time on a js syntax-error because the exception didn't show up anywhere i looked
1990. # [17:50] * bsmedberg is now known as bsmedberg-bbl
1991. # [17:51] <Yoric> gfritzsche: I know the feeling.
1992. # [17:51] <@ehsan> codemonkey: ah yeah, mac uses bsd sed, which has that quirk
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1994. # [17:51] <@ehsan> codemonkey: -i "" should give you what you want
1995. # [17:51] <Yoric> gfritzsche: js2-mode (for Emacs) helps me a lot with this kind of things
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1997. # [17:52] <gfritzsche> Yoric: right, good idea to catch this on the editor side
1998. # [17:52] <@bz> how do I change the test timeout browser-tests use?
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2000. # [17:52] * @bz keeps getting killed while debuggin
2001. # [17:52] <@bz> browser-chrome tests, that is
2002. # [17:52] <codemonkey> ehsan: well, something else is wrong, I dunno what
2003. # [17:52] <codemonkey> but when I run the script now and do a diff
2004. # [17:52] <codemonkey> all i get is New line at end of file crap
2005. # [17:52] <codemonkey> in about 20 files
2006. # [17:52] <codemonkey> and no PR_MIN to NS_MIN
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2008. # [17:53] <gfritzsche> bz: requestLongerTimeout(someFactor)
2009. # [17:53] <@ehsan> bz: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/TestRunner.js#79
2010. # [17:53] <@ehsan> hmm
2011. # [17:53] <@ehsan> codemonkey: can you pastebin your current script?
2012. # [17:53] <codemonkey> sure
2013. # [17:54] <@bz> ehsan: thanks!
2014. # [17:54] <@bz> hmm
2015. # [17:54] * @bz didn't think he'd had this running for 5 mins
2016. # [17:54] <@bz> ok, lemme try
2017. # [17:55] <codemonkey> ehsan: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1785416
2018. # [17:55] <Optimizer> Due to the presence of a binary xpi file in my git repo, I am now unable to merge master into another branch :|
2019. # [17:56] <codemonkey> ehsan: im working against this: http://www.ipnom.com/FreeBSD-Man-Pages/sed.1.html
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2023. # [17:56] <@ehsan> hmm
2024. # [17:56] <@ehsan> codemonkey: I wonder if bsd sed understands \b...
2025. # [17:56] <@ehsan> hold on a few moments please
2026. # [17:57] <codemonkey> tyt
2027. # [17:57] * cadecairos_away is now known as cadecairos
2028. # [17:57] <@ehsan> codemonkey: try this in the regex: [[:<:]]$1[[:>:]] instead of \b$1\b
2029. # [17:57] <codemonkey> ehsan: you mean such as this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42321/how-can-i-instruct-bsd-sed-to-interpret-escape-sequences-like-n-and-t
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2031. # [17:57] <codemonkey> ok, will do
2032. # [17:58] <@ehsan> man, bsd sed is retarded!
2033. # [17:58] <codemonkey> true
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2041. # [18:03] <codemonkey> ehsan: Woot! getting lots of:
2042. # [18:03] <codemonkey> - buf[PR_MIN(numRead, n - 1)] = '\0';
2043. # [18:03] <codemonkey> + buf[NS_MIN(numRead, n - 1)] = '\0';
2044. # [18:03] <@ehsan> codemonkey: \o/
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2046. # [18:03] <codemonkey> ehsan: alright, attaching bug to bugzilla
2047. # [18:03] <codemonkey> i mean, attaching patch
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2049. # [18:03] <@ehsan> codemonkey: cool
2050. # [18:04] <@ehsan> codemonkey: btw, please attach the script as well, since it will probably be more useful to review the script as opposed to the patch
2051. # [18:04] <@ehsan> (since the patch is auto-generated...)
2052. # [18:04] <codemonkey> ok, will attach both
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2054. # [18:05] <@ehsan> thanks!
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2061. # [18:07] <jcranmer|away> hmm
2062. # [18:07] <codemonkey> ehsan: alright, done
2063. # [18:07] <jcranmer|away> the change in nsTArray.h looks wrong
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2065. # [18:07] <@ehsan> codemonkey: cool, I'll review it soon
2066. # [18:07] <jcranmer|away> unless NS_MAX is constexpr :-)
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2068. # [18:07] <jcranmer|away> mozilla::AlignedElem<NS_MAX(MOZ_ALIGNOF(Header), MOZ_ALIGNOF(elem_type))> mAlign;
2069. # [18:08] <@ehsan> codemonkey: btw, did you try building with the patch? we may need a bunch of new #includes for NS_MIN...
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2071. # [18:08] <codemonkey> not yet, patching just worked :)
2072. # [18:08] <@ehsan> codemonkey: yeah, that won't work!
2073. # [18:08] <@ehsan> codemonkey: please try building locally as well
2074. # [18:08] <Waldo> why aren't we switching to std::min, if we're trying to switch everythingish?
2075. # [18:09] <@ehsan> once you get a working build, we can submit this to the try server to test on all platforms
2076. # [18:09] <@ehsan> Waldo: because I want to convert NS_MIN=>std::min wholesale
2077. # [18:09] <Waldo> I saw the ordering argument; I thought the solution was to change the ordering for NS_MIN or whatever, then do a proper switch
2078. # [18:09] <Waldo> oh, so PR_MIN->NS_MIN, then NS_MIN->std::min?
2079. # [18:09] <Waldo> rather than PR->std, NS->std
2080. # [18:10] <@ehsan> Waldo: there are a bunch of places where we can't use a function (see the above example), so PR_MIN->NS_MIN would be an easier first step
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2086. # [18:12] <codemonkey> ehsan: ok, building
2087. # [18:12] <froydnj> hm, why are these changes causing js allocation segfaults
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2089. # [18:12] <codemonkey> this will take some time :\
2090. # [18:12] <Asa> Waldo: Tbird needs snappy work for sure.
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2093. # [18:13] <Asa> I can't even delete a chunk of 50 emails without it hanging UI for a while.
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2096. # [18:14] <@ehsan> codemonkey: yeah
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2128. # [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05adc6145143 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 703537 - Implement Harmony Direct Proxies; r=jorendorff
2129. # [18:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5034469b1595 - Eddy Bruel - Merge fix
2130. # [18:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1a5d4cda6ac - Gregor Wagner - Bug 787069 - B2G desktop build broken. r=bent
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2144. # [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/40600eeda2c8 - Kyle Huey - Bug 786048: Rename 'JSEventListener' to 'EventHandler' to better match the spec's terminology. r=smaug
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2153. # [18:41] <taras> tn: size constraint stuff that was added a couple weeks ago?
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2155. # [18:41] <tn> taras, yeah i think so, i'll add that info to the bug so we can track
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2162. # [18:47] <taras> tn: cool, lets get this on aurora then
2163. # [18:48] <tn> taras, yeah
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2166. # [18:49] <taras> tn: so i see the stuff about ignoring repaint param
2167. # [18:49] <taras> what is that about?
2168. # [18:50] <taras> was this actually causing the whole window to repaint?
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2172. # [18:51] <codemonkey> ok, so that obviously didn't work
2173. # [18:51] <codemonkey> lots of includes needed for NS_MIN & NS_MAX
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2176. # [18:51] <codemonkey> ehsan: where are they defined? (ir: what should I include)?
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2181. # [18:52] <tn> taras, no, the sizing probem was happening on so called popup windows. we have them around for menus and tooltips and other things. they are usually hidden. so if the OS was dumb enough to send paint events to these hidden popup windows they might get repainted (but not the main window), but i don't think windows does that
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2183. # [18:53] <taras> ok
2184. # [18:53] <taras> thanks for bearing with me
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2186. # [18:53] <codemonkey> ehsan: here?
2187. # [18:54] <codemonkey> and everyone else, anyone know where NS_MAX & NS_MIN are defined?
2188. # [18:54] <mbrubeck> codemonkey: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsAlgorithm.h#45
2189. # [18:55] <codemonkey> thanks mbrubeck
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2192. # [18:55] <tn> codemonkey, the identifier search on mxr is a quick way to answer that kind of question usually
2193. # [18:55] <codemonkey> ah ok, thanks for the tip tn
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2201. # [18:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0ceffe737dd - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 786421. When hiding a popup panel don't bother sizing its view to zero because that is useless and confuses the widget sizing code. r=roc
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2268. # [19:19] <@khuey> mmm
2269. # [19:19] <@khuey> ISE on bugzilla
2270. # [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58446a7c7540 - David Zbarsky - Bug 779084 - Move querySelector stuff out of nsGenericElement and into nsINode r=bz
2271. # [19:20] <taras> /me is sad about bugzilla
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2274. # [19:20] <taras> how am i supposed to spend my day arguing without it?
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2277. # [19:20] <@khuey> glob: ^ bugzilla is down
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2281. # [19:21] <glandium> bzexport tells me: "abort: Unable to get username: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request"
2282. # [19:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> fixed now
2283. # [19:22] <glob> khuey, thanks, dba is fixing, back soon
2284. # [19:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> bugzilla, that is
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2315. # [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e874ca7eba4a - Ally Naaktgeboren - Bug 589468 - Part 2/2: Change "computer" to "device" in all strings regarding desktop Firefox Sync. r=mconnor
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2333. # [19:36] <dzbarsky> AryehGregor: ping?
2334. # [19:37] <Ms2ger> [He's studying full-time now]
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2336. # [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca7e9d87a4f1 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 785744 - Async file picker cleanup. r=neil
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2343. # [19:39] <@gavin> gfritzsche: hrm, findpluginfortype isn't scriptable :(
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2346. # [19:40] <@gavin> and nsPluginTag's mMimeTypes doesn't seem to be exposed
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2360. # [19:43] <bdahl> roc: ping
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2378. # [19:53] <@ehsan> codemonkey: sorry I was afk
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2380. # [19:53] <@ehsan> codemonkey: nsAlgorithm.h
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2386. # [19:55] <gfritzsche> gavin: oh, sorry about that
2387. # [19:55] <codemonkey> ehsan: no problem,
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2390. # [19:55] <codemonkey> mbrubeck & tn were very helpfu;
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2392. # [19:56] <gfritzsche> gfritzsche: no alternative idea from me until tomorrow then :/
2393. # [19:57] <gfritzsche> euh, gavin: ^
2394. # [19:57] <gfritzsche> *cough*
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2397. # [19:59] <gfritzsche> gavin: maybe ping keeler on this? he should have an idea from the c2p work
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2409. # [20:01] <bdahl> is nsRunnableMethod just a convenience class so one doesn't have to create a new event object and dispatch it? or are there more differences i'm missing?
2410. # [20:01] <froydnj> bdahl: it's a convenience class so that you don't have to write your own class than inherits from nsRunnable
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2423. # [20:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11c590f9b058 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 786240 - Null-check LayerView when sending accessibility event. r=mbrubeck
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2446. # [20:12] <@smaug> Asa: finally started to look the log
2447. # [20:12] <@smaug> never seen anything like that
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2450. # [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c428ed8cdb16 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 782660. Resizing a text control frame with borders should invalidate the borders as needed. r=roc, a=lsblakk
2451. # [20:12] <@smaug> it is almost all just js
2452. # [20:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c09b15ec8fdd - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 785754. Fix handling of max-height for frame classes that still seem to think that the mComputedMinHeight/mComputedMaxHeight of a reflow state are border-box heights, not
2453. # [20:12] <firebot> content-box heights. r=mats, a=lsblakk
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2457. # [20:14] <Waldo> bdahl: you might be waiting a bit, seeing as it's 06:00 in NZ, I think :-)
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2460. # [20:16] <bdahl> Waldo: yeah, usually it seems he signs out when he isn't around, so i thought i'd try
2461. # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b117fd8b85f0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 786564. Add a crossOrigin IDL attribute on <link>. r=sicking
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2465. # [20:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd1f23b839a2 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 768394 - Catch up with changes in ifc_reset_connections on ICS. r=gal
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2467. # [20:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b6a1295da486 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 786283 - Report to the caller when a scan request fails. r=vchang DONTBUILD
2468. # [20:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/246fdea0cf7e - Blake Kaplan - Bug 778360 - Don't try to reconnect to a running wpa_supplicant since that confuses the network manager. Instead, ensure that it's well and truly dead before starting. r=gwagner f=hub
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2483. # [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bad853c6b1e5 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 779741 - Enable "Settings" menuitem in BrowserApp, not GeckoApp. r=wesj
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2509. # [20:37] <froydnj> bz: did you forget to hg add for bug 786564?
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2512. # [20:38] <@bz> froydnj: looking
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2514. # [20:38] <froydnj> bz: I see +test_bug786564.html in the Makefile.in, but only changes to test_bug742549.html in the patch
2515. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> hg mv
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2517. # [20:39] <@bz> froydnj: copy from content/html/content/test/test_bug742549.html
2518. # [20:39] <@bz> copy to content/html/content/test/test_bug786564.html
2519. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> Well, hg cp
2520. # [20:39] <@bz> froydnj: hg cp followed by edits
2521. # [20:39] <froydnj> ahha
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2523. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> Splinter doesn't handle that well
2524. # [20:39] <@bz> splitner doesn't handle much of anything well.... ;)
2525. # [20:39] <@bz> er, splinter
2526. # [20:40] <froydnj> but then there should have been a -test_bug742549.html in the Makefile.in?
2527. # [20:40] <@bz> no
2528. # [20:40] <@bz> hg cp
2529. # [20:40] <@bz> I took an existing test for <script>
2530. # [20:40] <froydnj> oh. sorry, had Ms2ger's hg mv on the brain
2531. # [20:40] <@bz> copied it
2532. # [20:40] <@bz> s/script/link/
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2535. # [20:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a0dee329a9c - Joey Armstrong - bug 786708: remove unmatched paren from AUTOUPDATE_CONFIGURE
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2537. # [20:41] <@bz> do we fire error events on <audio> when the source type is unsupported?
2538. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> Don't think so
2539. # [20:41] <@bz> hmm
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2542. # [20:41] <@bz> ah
2543. # [20:41] <@bz> ok
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2545. # [20:41] <@bz> one sec
2546. # [20:42] <@bz> ah
2547. # [20:42] <@bz> but we should be firing on the <source>, right?
2548. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> Not sure
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2550. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> Do we care about the unit tests in ipc/chromium/?
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2631. # [21:04] <gaston> Ms2ger: as for the other DFAKE_MUTEX pretty sure they"re not built
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2635. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> gaston, I think you're right, but still :)
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2639. # [21:05] <gaston> sure sure
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2674. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, yt?
2675. # [21:14] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: pong
2676. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> Do you mind if I review bug 787040?
2677. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f615b633298 - William Lachance - Bug 786427 - Agent should quote with ' characters, not just " characters;r=jmaher
2678. # [21:15] <dzbarsky> tn: I'll put r=you on the renaming, ok?
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2680. # [21:15] <tn> dzbarsky, sounds good, thanks
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2683. # [21:17] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: if there's anything significant, cjones should at least give a cursory approval, but I'm ok with it
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2685. # [21:17] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, nah, just fixing commas and semicolons
2686. # [21:17] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that's fine
2687. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> Alright, thanks
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2701. # [21:25] <reuben> augh, the class hierarchy behind media elements is so complex, when I finally get to what I'm looking for I forgot where I started
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2705. # [21:27] <cjones__> Ms2ger, no
2706. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> Should we hg rm them?
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2719. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14ea772f1745 - Nick Alexander - Bug 773293 - part 1/2: Make checkboxes in Android Sync Send Tab To Device activity match Fennec checkboxes. r=rnewman
2720. # [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f24ef87245bf - Nick Alexander - Bug 767179 - part 1/2: Make Android Sync user interface appear in fixed size dialogs on tablets. r=rnewman
2721. # [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce60fb4481d5 - Nick Alexander - Bug 773293 - part 2/2: Make checkboxes in Android Sync Send Tab To Device activity match Fennec checkboxes. r=rnewman
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2724. # [21:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d5ee4a62eef - Nick Alexander - Bug 767179 - part 2/2: Make Android Sync user interface appear in fixed size dialogs on tablets. r=rnewman
2725. # [21:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e37291492a0 - Nick Alexander - Bug 770785: Delete client record from server when Android Account is deleted. r=rnewman
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2742. # [21:34] <vlad> if I don't have a mochitest-plain target, what do I want to do?
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2744. # [21:34] <vlad> or is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mochitest just out of date?
2745. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> Remove --disable-tests?
2746. # [21:35] <vlad> I don't have it!
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2748. # [21:35] <vlad> but ok, so it's still valid
2749. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> yeah
2750. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> From your objdir, right?
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2753. # [21:36] <vlad> config/autoconf.mk:ENABLE_TESTS = 1
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2755. # [21:36] <vlad> oh hey, wrong dir
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2765. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> vlad, now if you reviewed those mach patches... ;)
2766. # [21:37] <vlad> I know :(
2767. # [21:37] <vlad> I was on vacation until yesterday, they're still in my queue
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2773. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> vlad, pff, vacation is overrated ;)
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2778. # [21:39] <decoder> jcranmer: is try always being so slow with gcov builds? my two builds are running since this morning (9 hours now) and only on the debug build a few testsuites completed
2779. # [21:39] <decoder> zzZzz
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2785. # [21:42] <jcranmer> decoder: tests take about twice as long IIRC
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2795. # [21:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d04edff1ae41 - Benoit Girard - Bug 751916 - don't recycle tile if the format has changed. r=joe
2796. # [21:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/021eea9c166b - Scott Johnson - Bug 786891: Refactor import script for css reftests and add support for auto-prefixing, DONTBUILD because NPOTB. [r=dbaron]
2797. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d89bc229215 - Neil Deakin - Bug 784142, assertion and crash calling alert while closing a window, r=smaug
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2802. # [21:51] <NeilAway> whoa, some other application just throw an exception NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG
2803. # [21:52] <gaston> cjones_: can you r+ the process_util_bsd.cc followup on 782456 ?
2804. # [21:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ff5338aa8c6 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 786535 - B2G 3G: Handling roaming setting correctly. r=philikon
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2818. # [22:04] <jesup> Question: Are there any peers for Gerv on licensing? It's not in the Modules list in the Wiki, and the bugs in mozilla.org/Licensing seem to pretty much all be dealt with by Gerv (including Resolved bugs). (Sub-text: Gerv is on PTO for a while)
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2822. # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6075cc5dbe31 - Michael Wu - Bug 771653 - Use HWComposer instead of swapBuffer where appropriate, r=cjones
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2824. # [22:05] <gaston> ted: can you have a look at 786995 and 785638 in your review queue ?
2825. # [22:05] <@gavin> jesup: you can CC luis villa
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2828. # [22:06] <@gavin> jesup: otherwise, talk to the folks in legal I guess?
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2838. # [22:09] <@khuey> ehsan: pong
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2841. # [22:10] <@ehsan> khuey: any idea when you can get to bug 775302?
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2848. # [22:12] <AutomatedTester> glandium: ping for a silly build question if you have time
2849. # [22:12] <@khuey> ehsan: planning on doing my review queue tomorrow
2850. # [22:12] <glandium> AutomatedTester: pong
2851. # [22:12] <@ehsan> khuey: cool, ty
2852. # [22:13] <AutomatedTester> glandium: I am trying to put marionette files into fennec and I have updated the files to get it to go into the APK but my chrome.manifest isnt getting updated with the marionette manifest file location
2853. # [22:13] <AutomatedTester> glandium: do you know where I can find what would update that and make the relevant changes.
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2855. # [22:14] <jesup> gavin: thanks. What does Luis do? Lawyer?
2856. # [22:14] <glandium> AutomatedTester: what did you add, and where?
2857. # [22:15] <AutomatedTester> trying to get a diff, sorry my machine is being slow :/
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2859. # [22:15] <@gavin> jesup: yes. formerly moco, now works for another law firm but is still involved with mozilla stuff.
2860. # [22:16] <@gavin> jesup: expert on licensing
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2868. # [22:17] <jesup> gavin: excellent, thanks
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2871. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4c7a8c7fc65 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 769589 - Remove deprecated GetOriginatingURI from nsICookiePermission. r=mconnor sr=cbiesinger
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2886. # [22:23] <AutomatedTester> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1785934
2887. # [22:23] <AutomatedTester> glandium: thats what I have so far
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2891. # [22:25] <AutomatedTester> glandium: I pretty much copied from the desktop version
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2896. # [22:27] <jcranmer> Unfocused: ping
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2901. # [22:29] <glandium> AutomatedTester: stupid question, but did you build with ENABLE_MARIONETTE set?
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2903. # [22:30] <glandium> AutomatedTester: note you're missing chrome/marionette/modules, too
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2905. # [22:30] <glandium> AutomatedTester: ah no, forget that last remark
2906. # [22:30] <AutomatedTester> glandium: yea, ENABLE_MARIONETTE is in my mozconfig
2907. # [22:31] <AutomatedTester> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1785938 is my mozconfig
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2912. # [22:33] <glandium> AutomatedTester: what specific chrome.manifest are you looking at?
2913. # [22:34] <AutomatedTester> glandium: the one in the top level of the APK
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2915. # [22:34] <AutomatedTester> glandium: its also not in binary.manifest
2916. # [22:34] <glandium> AutomatedTester: you should end up with marionette stuff in chrome/nonlocalized.manifest and components/components.manifest
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2918. # [22:34] <AutomatedTester> glandium: ooo, let me look
2919. # [22:34] <jmaher> ehsan: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos
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2921. # [22:35] <AutomatedTester> glandium: is this in the APK?
2922. # [22:35] <glandium> AutomatedTester: in omni.ja
2923. # [22:35] <AutomatedTester> oo
2924. # [22:36] <AutomatedTester> ok, then it *should* be there...
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2928. # [22:37] <firebot> Check-in:
2929. # [22:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd51f6ca80e2 - David Keeler - Bug 785860 - fix sts preload list tests to skip private mode tests if private browsing service is missing - conditionally call run_next_test based on if we're in private
2930. # [22:37] <firebot> browsing mode or not. r=bsmith
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2933. # [22:38] <AutomatedTester> glandium: can I just open omni.ja in an editor and fit references to those files in there?
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2935. # [22:39] <glandium> AutomatedTester: it's a zip
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2937. # [22:39] <AutomatedTester> *facepalm* sorry
2938. # [22:39] <AutomatedTester> thanks
2939. # [22:40] <@smaug> dbaron: sounds like a different issue then
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2952. # [22:44] <AutomatedTester> glandium: its all there... must be something else that wrong. Thanks for helping out :)
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2954. # [22:46] <@ehsan> jmaher: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787200
2955. # [22:46] <@ehsan> jmaher: I'll look over the wiki page later today or tomorrow
2956. # [22:46] <jhammel> beh, i would not be happy :(
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2958. # [22:47] <jmaher> ehsan: thanks for the bug; at least here we can argue the reasons and make the right decision
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2960. # [22:47] <jmaher> ehsan: yeah, assume the big table of tests will be updated this week (probably early tomorrow morning)
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2962. # [22:49] <@ehsan> jmaher: can you please ping me when they are updated?
2963. # [22:49] <jmaher> ehsan: will do
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2965. # [22:50] <@ehsan> jmaher: ty
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2968. # [22:53] <froydnj> jmaher: the only way to get at dev.tree-management archives is through google groups? no downloadable mboxes or anything like that?
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2979. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d818adcd747 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 786866 - export LD_PRELOAD for xpcshell tests on B2G, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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2987. # [23:03] <@ehsan> froydnj: I have the mails in thunderbird... do you want me to try to see if I can get them to you somehow?
2988. # [23:03] * @ehsan doesn't really know how
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2990. # [23:04] <jhammel> froydnj: afaik, google groups is the only place they are archived online
2991. # [23:04] <jhammel> well, besides actual newsgroups
2992. # [23:04] <froydnj> ehsan: that would be helpful, but don't spend more than a couple of minutes trying to figure out how
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2994. # [23:04] <@ehsan> ok.. let me see
2995. # [23:05] <froydnj> jhammel: are they archived offline somewhere that I can bug somebody about?
2996. # [23:05] <jhammel> heh, well not me :)
2997. # [23:05] <froydnj> you can serve as a convenient proxy until you identify a suitable replacement, though :)
2998. # [23:06] <jduell> biesi:
2999. # [23:06] <jduell> biesi: ping
3000. # [23:06] <jhammel> i mean, i don't have many of the mails saved in any reasonable fashion :) so i'm not a particularly suitable proxy
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3002. # [23:07] * philor rofls at the fantasy -inbound
3003. # [23:07] <@ehsan> froydnj: seems like there's no export option or something similar... :(
3004. # [23:07] <froydnj> I just didn't know if the mailing list software was archiving them appropriately and google was just getting cc'd
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3006. # [23:07] <froydnj> and we're just not hosting the archives for...well, whatever reasons
3007. # [23:07] <froydnj> ehsan: bummer. thanks for looking!
3008. # [23:09] <sfink> anyone know why I can't get stack traces out of gdb on a linux64 build slave?
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3011. # [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d14ceaf50295 - Nicolas Chaim Echeverria - Bug 726125: Certificates of signed extensions were getting validated on each startup. r=taras, sr=bzbarsky
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3014. # [23:11] <@ehsan> froydnj: so, I can get you the raw thunderbird folder files
3015. # [23:11] <@ehsan> froydnj: I forward all of my mozilla mailing list emails to a single folder
3016. # [23:11] <@ehsan> froydnj: so you need to filter it yourself though...
3017. # [23:12] <@ehsan> ah, except that folder is 1.0GB uncompressed :/
3018. # [23:12] <froydnj> ehsan: that might be a decent start, assuming the tbird folder format isn't too wacky
3019. # [23:12] <froydnj> ah, well, that's not so good :)
3020. # [23:12] <@ehsan> I think it's mbox
3021. # [23:12] <@ehsan> let me try to gzip it...
3022. # [23:13] <froydnj> do we have talos graphs somewhere? or is that another "we should do that" idea?
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3027. # [23:14] <@ehsan> froydnj: the emails include graph links
3028. # [23:14] <@ehsan> froydnj: so the gzipped folder is 229MB
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3030. # [23:14] <@ehsan> I can upload it somewhere
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3036. # [23:15] <@ehsan> froydnj: yep ;)
3037. # [23:15] <@ehsan> froydnj: ok, uploading now
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3041. # [23:17] <@smaug> (can we once have a release without regressions :/ )
3042. # [23:17] <@smaug> (my guess is no)
3043. # [23:17] <@khuey> no
3044. # [23:18] * philor|away is now known as philor
3045. # [23:19] <@smaug> one good thing when spending so much time reviewing is that there is not so much time to break things
3046. # [23:19] <froydnj> hopefully the patches you review do not break things ;)
3047. # [23:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a9c7ecef7bd - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 694539: Implement 'long string' grips. r=jimb
3048. # [23:19] <@smaug> one may have, unfortunately... though, I think I didn't review the problematic part
3049. # [23:20] <@smaug> but yes...my reviews aren't always as good as they should be
3050. # [23:22] <@smaug> !seen tanvi
3051. # [23:22] <@killer> I don't know who tanvi is.
3052. # [23:22] <firebot> tanvi was last seen 1 minute and 56 seconds ago, saying 'can you send me your latest mockup or demo of your preferences redesign?' in #ux.
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3054. # [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f088ffa33f0 - Jim Blandy - Bug 785466: Remove DebugProtocolTypes table. r=past
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3063. # [23:27] <bnicholson> why don't the javascript.options.mem.gc_* prefs affect workers?
3064. # [23:27] <Yoric> If I had to guess, I would say this might be because workers can't access preferences in a thread-safe way.
3065. # [23:28] <Yoric> There are all sorts of things we can't do from workers, even in native code.
3066. # [23:28] <bnicholson> hrm...so is there no way to control any aspect of GC for workers?
3067. # [23:29] <Yoric> This was just a guess, mind you.
3068. # [23:29] <bnicholson> sounds like a reasonable one :)
3069. # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/851a00eaa0b7 - David Zbarsky - Bug 780692 Part 2.5: Rename GetRootFrameThroughViews to GetNearestFrameContainingPresShell. r=tn
3070. # [23:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4229e48e223 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 786448: Update B2G Toolchain to include bluetooth headers; r=qdot
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3076. # [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94038167af79 - Luqman Aden - Bug 786008 - Add a debug check to make sure that QueryInterface implementations always handle nsISupports; r=ehsan
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3078. # [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6e4e6857c0c - Jim Blandy - Bug 785466: follow-on fix: uncommitted changes to resolve conflicts with bug 694539; no r
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3080. # [23:35] <bnicholson> can anyone confirm this for sure? it seems like this would be a big problem for some environments (like android) if we can't control memory usage for workers
3081. # [23:35] <bnicholson> in the scenario i'm seeing, the worker is consuming 150+MB of RAM, killing all background apps
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3083. # [23:35] <Yoric> bnicholson: You should ask on #jsapi
3084. # [23:35] <bnicholson> Yoric: thanks
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3086. # [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98b94d18373e - Yoshi Huang - Bug 786831 - Part 1: Update IDL. r=philikon.
3087. # [23:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/604c5f59c5e0 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 786831 - Part 3: Update RIL implementations. r=philikon
3088. # [23:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ea41d5679c4 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 786831 - Part 2 : Update IccManager. r=smaug
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3095. # [23:39] <firebot> Check-in:
3096. # [23:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb4d9e0663b5 - Scott Johnson - Bug 786891, Followup 1: Remove specific directories for css3-multicol accidentally added to import-tests.py in prev patch. DONTBUILD because NPOTB. [r=me]
3097. # [23:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28c0040c73a3 - Jim Blandy - Bug 786509: Remove support for wildcard event listeners from dbg-client.jsm's eventSource. r=past
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3104. # [23:43] <@smaug> mwu: you should create your patches using -p -U 8
3105. # [23:43] <@smaug> -U 3 is hard
3106. # [23:43] <mwu> smaug: want me to generate a new patch?
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3110. # [23:45] <@smaug> mwu: no need
3111. # [23:45] <mwu> ok
3112. # [23:45] <@smaug> mwu: but you should probably change your .hgrc
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3115. # [23:45] <RyanVM> gavin: ping
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3117. # [23:46] <@smaug> (why is gonk using some bizarre coding style :( )
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3119. # [23:46] <@gavin> RyanVM: pong
3120. # [23:47] <RyanVM> gavin: am I reading it right that bug 786326 is aurora-only?
3121. # [23:47] <@khuey> sewardj: ping?
3122. # [23:47] <sewardj> khuey: pong
3123. # [23:47] <@gavin> RyanVM: no
3124. # [23:47] <@khuey> sewardj: you know stuff about valgrind right? ;-)
3125. # [23:48] <sewardj> khuey: so it is alleged :)
3126. # [23:48] <RyanVM> gavin: OK, was confused because the approval request said it was on m-c
3127. # [23:48] <@smaug> mwu: but I don't quite understand the patch. could you explain in the bug
3128. # [23:48] <RyanVM> gavin: I'll land it on inbound too then
3129. # [23:48] <@khuey> sewardj: have you successfully run firefox in valgrind recently? I'm getting a startup crash :-/
3130. # [23:48] <sewardj> khuey: uh, tell me the platform you're on, + the V version
3131. # [23:49] <mwu> smaug: will do
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3133. # [23:49] <sewardj> khuey: but in short yes, I was running it earlier today
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3135. # [23:49] <@gavin> RyanVM: I think he meant "I tested it with m-c code"
3136. # [23:50] <whimboo> bz: ping. i have the failure now in gdb
3137. # [23:50] <whimboo> which output you want to have now?
3138. # [23:50] <whimboo> not sure which commands I have to issue
3139. # [23:50] <@khuey> sewardj: valgrind 3.6.1 on fedora something or other
3140. # [23:50] <sewardj> khuey: actually,pastebin some crash details
3141. # [23:50] <sewardj> khuey: 3.6.1 is from Before Time Began
3142. # [23:50] <@khuey> heh
3143. # [23:50] <@khuey> ok
3144. # [23:51] <@khuey> I'll try a more up to date version first
3145. # [23:51] <sewardj> khuey: but random guessing is no good, show me how it failed
3146. # [23:51] <@khuey> fedora 16, btw, if it matters
3147. # [23:51] <@khuey> sewardj: well, I don't have a stack with symbols ...
3148. # [23:51] <@khuey> and I can't attach gdb ...
3149. # [23:52] * @khuey is a valgrind noob, as you can see
3150. # [23:52] <sewardj> khuey: 3.6.1 w/ F16 == fail, probably
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3153. # [23:52] <sewardj> khuey: try 3.8.0 tarball from www.valgrind.org
3154. # [23:52] <hobophobe> (probably not applic.) for callgrind, I had to not use profile manager or it would only exec on that and quit before Fx ran
3155. # [23:52] <@khuey> ok
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3159. # [23:53] <sewardj> khuey: and if that's still b0rked, lmk in the next couple of days, since we're doing 3.8.1 shortly
3160. # [23:53] <@khuey> ok
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3172. # [23:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00822ba181f2 - Andrew Sutherland - Bug 787214 - s/this/self/ in mozTCPSocket context where this is not available. r=fabrice
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3175. # [23:58] <shu> does anyone know how to make hg qpush failures to not leave .rej files and instead have the inline merge "<<<<<<" lines?
3176. # [23:59] <jhammel> heh someone just asked that the other day, possibly gps
3177. # [23:59] <hub> shu: I'd love to know how. that's one of the reason I dislike mercurial
3178. # [23:59] <@gavin> yeah, gps did
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3180. # [23:59] <shu> was there an answer? :)
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