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1. # Session Start: Wed Sep 05 00:00:00 2012
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5. # [00:00] <@bz> hrm
6. # [00:00] <@bz> is regexp search just broken for mxr?
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14. # [00:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f867845a9956 - Robert Longson - Back out 92f2cf2f42b2 (bug 754592) for causing regression
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24. # [00:09] <dholbert> bz, just noticed a 1.9MB file "dom/webidl/CSS2PropertiesProps.h.gch" lying around in my srcdir -- do you know what that's from? (It's not hg-controlled, and it's not hgignored)
25. # [00:09] <dholbert> bz, (I suspect it might be from a build that I interrupted -- is it worth adding that file to hgignore or adding logic to be sure we clean it up / don't stick it in the srcdir in the first place?)
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31. # [00:10] <@ehsan> jduell: ping
32. # [00:10] <@ehsan> bz: ping
33. # [00:10] <dholbert> (alternately, khuey: ^)
34. # [00:11] <@khuey> dholbert: a gch file means we tried to compile a header ...
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36. # [00:11] <@bz> ehsan: ack
37. # [00:11] <jduell> ehsan: ack
38. # [00:11] <@ehsan> bz: jduell: should we talk?
39. # [00:11] <@khuey> dholbert: seems weird
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41. # [00:11] <jduell> ehsan: bz: yes. What's our favorite medium?
42. # [00:11] <dholbert> khuey, datestamp says it's from 8 days ago, actually -- I can just delete it and see if it ever happens again
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44. # [00:12] <@ehsan> jduell: bz: how about my vidyo channel?
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47. # [00:12] <jduell> ehsan: I don't have vidyo working---is setup fast?
48. # [00:12] <@ehsan> jduell: we can also do skype
49. # [00:13] <jduell> ehsan: skype works. I'm jasonduell
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51. # [00:13] <dholbert> khuey, actually, that datestamp is from the same day I was working on bug 785981 -- so it's possible I did something silly while testing
52. # [00:13] <@bz> ehsan: I was about to go eat dinner...
53. # [00:13] <@bz> ehsan: so I have maybe 2 mins tops
54. # [00:13] <dholbert> khuey, I'm just going to delete the file and forget about it, unless you think I should do otherwise
55. # [00:13] <@bz> ehsan: can we do this tomorrow sometime?
56. # [00:13] <@bz> ehsan: or in 3+ hours?
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58. # [00:14] <@ehsan> bz: do you wanna be in the call?
59. # [00:14] <@ehsan> bz: if yes, we can do it either tomorrow or in 3+ hours
60. # [00:14] <@ehsan> (but I'm sort of blocked on this)
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62. # [00:14] <jduell> ehsan: we can try to figure it out ourselves, but I suspect bz will be very handy to have...
63. # [00:14] <jduell> I can do now/+3 hrs/tomorrow, just lemme know
64. # [00:15] <@ehsan> jduell: bz: ok, well then let's do it in 3+ hours
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66. # [00:15] <jduell> 6 PM PST
67. # [00:15] <@ehsan> cool
68. # [00:15] <@khuey> dholbert: that sounds like a plan to me
69. # [00:15] <dholbert> woot
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73. # [00:15] <@ehsan> jduell: btw, it would be great if you can install vidyo in the mean time so that we can do a video conf call
74. # [00:15] <@bz> ehsan: what;s the call about?
75. # [00:15] <@bz> ok
76. # [00:15] <@bz> sounds good
77. # [00:15] <jduell> ehsan: ok, will do
78. # [00:15] <@ehsan> bz: nsIChannel::setprivate or alternatives
79. # [00:15] <@bz> I'll ping you two when I get the kids to bed...
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81. # [00:16] <@ehsan> bz: sounds good :)
82. # [00:16] <@ehsan> jduell: ty
83. # [00:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9619aab9a050 - Benoit Girard - Bug 787416 - Invalidate tiled layers when the format changes. r=joe
84. # [00:16] <@ehsan> so I guess I'll leave for home now
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88. # [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81bfc5961cdd - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 787060 - Update android widget RedrawAll to invalidate the entire view to work with DLBI. r=mattwoodrow
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110. # [00:33] <cpearce> is css object-fit supposed to apply to images only?
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114. # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57237ee1f788 - Chris Peterson - Bug 777591 - Part 1: Compile Java packages into separate jar files. r=blassey
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122. # [00:42] <nthomas> where do these .mkdir.done hidden files come from ?
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124. # [00:42] <Callek> ted, gps, khuey: ^
125. # [00:43] <philor> bug 781138
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127. # [00:43] <Callek> or perhaps philor-to-the-rescue as always
128. # [00:43] <nthomas> thx
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130. # [00:43] <nthomas> need to exclude them from updates too
131. # [00:44] <gps> nthomas: the build system creates them because make is stupid and that's the way it needs to be
132. # [00:44] <nthomas> make needs to be stupid ? :-P
133. # [00:44] <@ted> well, make is stupid and that's our workaround
134. # [00:44] <@ted> sadly
135. # [00:44] <gps> it's how you create dependencies on directory creation in make
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137. # [00:45] <gps> you need a file since the stat() of a directory doesn't return the right thing
138. # [00:45] <nthomas> k. I'll file a followup later on updates
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140. # [00:45] <gps> all packaging/archiving should ignore .mkdir.done. if it doesn't, that's a bug
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142. # [00:47] <nthomas> shouldn't be hard to fix in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/default/tools/update-packaging/common.sh#l138
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172. # [01:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ceb6f653de08 - Steve Fink - Bug 738612 - Include common mozconfigs so try pushes can modify them easily. r=ted
173. # [01:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81bbb0b8aff2 - Steve Fink - Bug 738612 - Add mozconfig "override" files to be included after everything else, for overriding previously set options. r=ted
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184. # [01:08] <RyanVM> sfink: red
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188. # [01:08] <sfink> ugh
189. # [01:09] <RyanVM> gps: can you please r+ bug 787658?
190. # [01:09] <RyanVM> gps: really annoying
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197. # [01:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27030680d0cc - Steve Fink - Backed out changeset 81bbb0b8aff2 (bug 738612)
198. # [01:11] <philor> well, sure, our Windows builds are now only about as reliable as Android tests, but they're fast, so you can do two or three builds and get one to finish
199. # [01:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20adcf83fc42 - Steve Fink - Backed out changeset ceb6f653de08 (bug 738612)
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207. # [01:15] <gps> RyanVM: as I told sid0, I'm sick today and don't have confidence in my reviewing ability. I suggest another build peer review it
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209. # [01:16] <philor> sfink: red backout :)
210. # [01:16] <RyanVM> ted: khuey: bsmedberg: glandium: ^
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212. # [01:16] <jgilbert> Are the 'frames' in crash reports the stack-trace?
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214. # [01:17] <RyanVM> sfink: did you run that through Try?
215. # [01:17] <RyanVM> sfink: (the original patches)
216. # [01:17] <Waldo> jgilbert: I think it's just the hunk'o'memory from the C stack
217. # [01:17] <sfink> RyanVM: probably a useless subset
218. # [01:18] <sfink> I ran some version of it through some portion of try
219. # [01:18] <RyanVM> sfink: was just wondering if a clobber would help
220. # [01:18] <hurley> /nick hurley|afk
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222. # [01:18] <hurley> bah
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224. # [01:18] <RyanVM> hurley: could be worse, I remember when somebody tried to msg NICKSERV with their password and forgot the / in front
225. # [01:19] <sfink> RyanVM: I'm not sure that backout really backed out what it was supposed to
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227. # [01:19] <RyanVM> sfink: ah
228. # [01:19] <sfink> since I just did a diff before I landed anything, and it's showing a bunch of crap
229. # [01:19] <sfink> probably something isn't handling file additions/deletions properly
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235. # [01:20] <philor> alas, if you do "Backout abc123 for not actually being a backout" it won't be the first use of that commit message
236. # [01:21] <jdm> ehsan: want to land the mozilla-release patch?
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238. # [01:21] <sfink> yep, none of the added files got backed out. Urgh.
239. # [01:21] <@ehsan> jdm: I can handle it, I have a clone ready
240. # [01:21] <jdm> great
241. # [01:21] <@ehsan> jdm: (just got home)
242. # [01:22] <marco> I've sent some patches to try, but only the last is showing up on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e402f92dbadf
243. # [01:22] <marco> does this mean that only the last patch has been actually sent?
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245. # [01:23] <jdm> marco: do you mean multiple patches in the same queue, as part of the same build?
246. # [01:24] <marco> jdm: yes
247. # [01:24] <jdm> marco: only the patches that have changed since previous pushes are displayed
248. # [01:24] <marco> jdm: ok, even if I discarded the previous pushes?
249. # [01:25] <jdm> I'm not sure what discarded means in this case
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253. # [01:25] <marco> jdm: I've cancelled the build
254. # [01:25] <jdm> marco: doesn't matter.
255. # [01:26] <marco> ok, thank you
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262. # [01:27] <sid0> RyanVM: really sorry -- if it were a trivial patch I'd have checked it in already
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264. # [01:28] <sid0> RyanVM: but it isn't :(
265. # [01:29] <dholbert> sfink, are you spinning up an actual-backout?
266. # [01:29] <RyanVM> sfink: do you want me to back you out?
267. # [01:29] <sfink> RyanVM: if you can figure out how to properly, please do
268. # [01:29] <sfink> I'm failing at it
269. # [01:29] <dholbert> "hg revert --all -r 57237ee1f788" WFM
270. # [01:29] <RyanVM> on it
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272. # [01:29] <dholbert> [^ is the last good revision]
273. # [01:30] <sfink> dholbert: oh, thanks. But I'll let RyanVM do it now.
274. # [01:30] <dholbert> cool
275. # [01:30] <dholbert> RyanVM, you are a gentleman and a scholar
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278. # [01:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cd45f6cce87 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout bug 738612, with feeling this time.
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284. # [01:33] <sfink> thank you
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293. # [01:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bb37077d615 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 763689 patch 2: Support min-width:auto in computed style, and add special cases as necessary wherever it's read. r=dbaron
294. # [01:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82f73bdb2237 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 763689 patch 3: Support min-height:auto in computed style, and add special cases as necessary wherever it's read. r=dbaron
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301. # [01:46] <espadrine> bz, I'm actually puzzled. Isn't the purpose of `if (aSheet == mSheet) …` to avoid doing any work if the sheet is the same? Does RebuildNameSpaces kill mNameSpaceMap, so that SetStyleSheet needs to rewire the pointer?
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306. # [01:49] <espadrine> bz_dinner: ^
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308. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3e246c296259 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 784386 - Reduce memory usage for reader mode parse. r=lucasr a=lsblakk
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314. # [01:56] <njn> taras: telemetry seems to be down, is that expected?
315. # [01:56] <njn> (i.e. metrics.mozilla.com)
316. # [01:56] <taras> njn: nope, i sent an email about this to metrics
317. # [01:57] <taras> njn: no response so far
318. # [01:57] <njn> taras: k, thx
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326. # [02:00] <jlebar> glandium: Do you know if a non-root application can disable transparent huge pages on itself?
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328. # [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7887ace84c7d - Luke Wagner - Bug 786801 - js_InferFlags should not stop at compartment boundaries (r=bhackett)
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330. # [02:03] <geekboy> dholbert: ping
331. # [02:03] <dholbert> geekboy, pong
332. # [02:03] <geekboy> do you know how to get a line number in nsStyledElementNotElementCSSInlineStyle::ParseAttribute()?
333. # [02:03] <geekboy> there's gotta be a way. :)
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337. # [02:05] <dholbert> geekboy, I don't know how to report a line number at all -- sorry :)
338. # [02:05] <geekboy> aww, ok
339. # [02:05] <dholbert> geekboy, but I suspect there's a way, yeah
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341. # [02:06] <dholbert> geekboy, I believe if ParseAttribute fails, something will post a line number in the error console
342. # [02:06] <dholbert> geekboy, so you could try making it fail, and follow the trail
343. # [02:06] <geekboy> not a bad idea
344. # [02:06] <geekboy> thanks
345. # [02:06] <dholbert> sure! or someone else here might know, too. (Anyone know how to get the currently-being-parsed line of source code, in ::ParseAttribute?)
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349. # [02:07] <dholbert> (HTML source code, that is)
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352. # [02:08] <@khuey> I doubt that you can
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354. # [02:08] <@khuey> off main thread parsing seems like it should make that difficult at best
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361. # [02:11] <geekboy> khuey: I'm trying to find a place where CSP can get context so we can give devs a webconsole message that links to whatever CSP is complaining about -- specifically for style="" attributes
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363. # [02:12] <NeilAway> dholbert: so, in theory, would it be possible for xul.css to set xul|* { min-width: auto; min-height: auto; } and remove the 0px special cases from the C++?
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367. # [02:13] <dholbert> NeilAway, I'm not familiar with the pipe in CSS selectors -- does that mean "in a XUL document"?
368. # [02:14] <@khuey> geekboy: the actual SetAttr call comes from an nsHtml5TreeOperation
369. # [02:14] <NeilAway> dholbert: well, assuming a @namespace xul declaration, it means any xul element
370. # [02:14] <@khuey> geekboy: whatever has the stack of nsHtml5TreeOperations to deal with may have line numbers
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372. # [02:14] <NeilAway> dholbert: well, any element in the xul namespace
373. # [02:14] <@khuey> geekboy: but it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't
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378. # [02:15] <dholbert> NeilAway, min-width: auto and min-height: auto are the default now -- so you wouldn't need to add that to xul.css
379. # [02:15] <NeilAway> dholbert: oh, fair enough
380. # [02:15] <dholbert> but yeah, we should be able to drop the XUL special-cases
381. # [02:15] <dholbert> for 0px vs 0%
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383. # [02:15] <dholbert> and treat 0px like actual 0px
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385. # [02:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1661cbbc3759 - Anthony Jones - Bug 773460 - Change the default canvas over to Azure; r=nrc
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388. # [02:16] <dholbert> NeilAway, thanks for the reminder about that -- I'd forgotten. Filing a followup to investigate / clean that up
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399. # [02:23] <nrc> bdahl: ping
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402. # [02:24] <bdahl> nrc: pong
403. # [02:25] <RyanVM> awww, only 10 different bugs for ~30 android failures
404. # [02:25] <nrc> bdahl: hi, are you using Thebes canvas for printing with pdf.js?
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406. # [02:26] <RyanVM> Callek: btw, I see tegra-149 showing up a lot when I star
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408. # [02:26] <Callek> RyanVM: yea, looks problematic https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-149 thanks for the ping
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410. # [02:26] <Callek> I'll grab it shortly
411. # [02:27] <bdahl> nrc: i don't believe we force thebes anymore, so whatever is available
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413. # [02:27] <nrc> bdahl: OK, great, thanks. Let me know if you have any problems with Azure canvas, because we aiming to remove Thebes canvas altogether soon-ish
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417. # [02:29] <bdahl> nrc: k, our patch just made it to inbound today so not many have people have played with it yet
418. # [02:29] <dholbert> RyanVM, thanks for the starring / retriggering on my m-i push, btw
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420. # [02:29] <RyanVM> dholbert: it's what I do :)
421. # [02:30] <nrc> bdahl: OK, we probably won't remove it until the next cycle, so we'll have most of this one for any problems to appear (or not, hopefully)
422. # [02:31] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: "Patch has changed since try push but only comments." - I'm brimming with confidence :D
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424. # [02:32] <bdahl> nrc: where gfx acceleration is enabled it defaults to not using thebes, right?
425. # [02:32] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> Ryan: it's 4 lines.
426. # [02:32] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> plus 4 lines of comment.
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430. # [02:32] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: but if you prefer I can just run it through try again.
431. # [02:33] <nrc> bdahl: it defaults to not using Thebes everywhere! It defaults to Azure/Cairo on Linux, Android, and Windows with no HWA
432. # [02:33] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: just giving you a hard time :)
433. # [02:33] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: fair enough. although you could probably save it for when I actually break something :-)
434. # [02:33] <zzzzz_> land it and put fire-trucks on stand-by :)
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436. # [02:34] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: I'm landing a lot of patches this week. I will do everything I can to avoid getting a backlog again.
437. # [02:36] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: I'm sure I'll get my chance :P
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440. # [02:36] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: well I generally aim to be productive enough that people forgive me for my mistakes.
441. # [02:37] <@bz_dinner> jduell, ehsan: you around?
442. # [02:38] <@ehsan> bz_dinner: yep
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446. # [02:39] <@bz_dinner> ehsan: can talk any time now
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448. # [02:39] <@ehsan> bz: cool, let's wait for jduell then (who is not on irc right now)
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450. # [02:40] <@bz> ok, sounds good
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458. # [02:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/525aebd1b707 - Chris Jones - Bug 785237: Give prelaunch processes background priority, and move the background oom_adj up (down?) a class. r=jlebar
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500. # [03:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5567d9cccba4 - Jan Beich - Bug 788039 - With no prefix, search libevent via pkg-config. r=glandium
501. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af0971ca7acd - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 784367 - Encode/decode document.cookie as UTF-8 per HTML5 spec. r=bz
502. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc9be79a2eeb - Anthony Jones - Bug 788087 - Apply matrices to Azure/Cairo patterns. r=joe
503. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c4c2f783585 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 784386 - Fix comment for Array.join() string concatenation. r=me
504. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f42b1279895 - Timothy Guan-tin Chien - Bug 788094 - B2G RIL: SIM card state keywords is different between code and IDL. r=philikon
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506. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e1c9887f87d - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 788042 - Use MOZ_X11 instead of MOZ_WIDGET_GTK2 under gfx/layers. r=karlt
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508. # [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73eb2f3088f1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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520. # [03:17] <felipe> does anyone know where is the code that when receiving a 404 error decides to display our own error page or the content provided by the server?
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524. # [03:18] <@bz> jduell, ehsan: reping
525. # [03:18] <@ehsan> jduell: bz: I'm still ready
526. # [03:19] <@khuey> felipe: nsDocShell::DisplayLoadError?
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529. # [03:19] <@khuey> felipe: fwiw, I think we only display the site's content if it doesn't actually send a 404 response
530. # [03:19] <jduell> ehsan: bz: ok, on vidyo
531. # [03:19] <@bz> which room?
532. # [03:19] <@ehsan> bz: mine
533. # [03:19] <@ehsan> jduell: ^
534. # [03:20] <felipe> khuey: DisplayLoadError is only called when it's already decided.. a custom 404 page doesn't end up calling that function
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537. # [03:20] <felipe> we do display custom content even if it's a 404 response.. IIRC it only depends on the length of the content
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539. # [03:22] <felipe> but I can't find any example of a 404 that doesn't send custom content where I could have a breakpoint in DisplayLoadError to find out
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559. # [03:37] <@bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/events/nsIDOMDeviceOrientationEvent.idl#44
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561. # [03:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ce16c39e01fb - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 787658 - Recalculate mtime once the target is built. r=khuey
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577. # [03:47] <gkw> does clicking "Listen" in Google Translate work for anybody?
578. # [03:47] * gkw can get it to say a word in Chromium but not in Nightly
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580. # [03:48] <padenot> gkw: wfm, but it needs flash
581. # [03:48] <@bz> it's broken
582. # [03:48] <@bz> on trunk
583. # [03:48] <@bz> there's a bug
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585. # [03:49] <gkw> bz: i see, just as i suspected
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587. # [03:49] <gkw> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786650
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610. # [04:05] * @bsmedberg is reminded just how much he despises MacOS
611. # [04:06] <@bz> so if I were picking one platform to push to try for
612. # [04:06] <@bz> which one should I pick?
613. # [04:06] <@bz> bsmedberg: to use, or to develop for?
614. # [04:06] <@bsmedberg> bz: well, "use for development"
615. # [04:06] <@bsmedberg> tramp doesn't work in emacs
616. # [04:06] <@bsmedberg> the whole command/control thing sucks
617. # [04:07] <@bz> bsmedberg: mmm
618. # [04:07] <@bz> bsmedberg: I remap the modifier keys some
619. # [04:07] <@bz> bsmedberg: to make it fit my preconceptions
620. # [04:07] <@bsmedberg> I have too, in the past
621. # [04:07] * @bz has never used tramp
622. # [04:07] <@bsmedberg> but applecare repaired my mac (busted HD)
623. # [04:07] <@bz> bsmedberg: I should try Linux again one of these days
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625. # [04:07] <@bsmedberg> and now everything is back to its factory badness, and I'm trying to remember wth I did the first time to make this all not suck
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627. # [04:08] * @bz kept a log. :(
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630. # [04:08] <@bz> it's always a bit weird to apply the log because it's usually for an OS release 2-3 behind the one I'm trying to apply to...
631. # [04:08] <@bsmedberg> xcode: only 5 hours, 6 minutes of download remaining
632. # [04:08] <@bz> oh, interesting
633. # [04:08] <@bz> bsmedberg: yeah, that part is fail
634. # [04:08] * @bz has been mounting filesystems to do this
635. # [04:08] <@bz> but tramp might be nice
636. # [04:09] <@bsmedberg> I apparently have MacOS 10.6 now, not sure what I had before, but 10.7 or 10.8 is the new hotness right?
637. # [04:09] <@bz> 10.8 is the new hotness
638. # [04:09] <@bsmedberg> bz: yeah, I have trouble mounting file systems well because this is all machines on the VPN
639. # [04:09] <@bz> there is a non-negligible chance you had 10.6 if the machine is > 18 months old
640. # [04:09] <@bz> ah, yeah
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642. # [04:10] <@bz> the mozilla vpn, or your own?
643. # [04:10] <@bsmedberg> mozilla
644. # [04:10] <@bsmedberg> 4 different crash analysis boxes of various sorts
645. # [04:10] <@bsmedberg> none of which have emacs locally, so I pretty much have to use tramp to do any real editing on them, or local edits + git
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647. # [04:13] <@bz> bsmedberg: no emacs? Philistines!
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650. # [04:14] <@bsmedberg> apparently IT is a vim shop
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655. # [04:15] <Tanner> Evening, what's the best way to debug a hang in Aurora?
656. # [04:15] <@bsmedberg> Tanner: a permanent hang or a temporary hang?
657. # [04:15] <@bsmedberg> and can you reproduce it in Nightly?
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659. # [04:16] <Tanner> bsmedberg: I have an oldish Nightly that it hangs on as well, it just started about 6 hours ago, did a reset of the profile and the same problem occurs
660. # [04:17] <cpearce> vim! vim! vim!
661. # [04:17] <@bsmedberg> Tanner: temporary hangs, use the nightly profiler
662. # [04:17] <@bsmedberg> permanent hangs, attach a debugger and get stacks for interesting threads?
663. # [04:17] <Tanner> It hangs for ~10 minutes, unresponsive script for any website really, stop all the scripts, try go to go different website, repeat cycle.
664. # [04:17] <@bsmedberg> figuring out hangs is an art, not a science
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666. # [04:18] <Tanner> This is probably when I start hating Windows again?
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670. # [04:20] <@bsmedberg> Tanner: I don't know, but attaching a debugger to a release Firefox is certainly easier on Windows than on Linux/mac
671. # [04:21] <Tanner> alright, I'll try that in a bit...
672. # [04:22] <@bz> so back to try
673. # [04:22] <@bz> what's our least loaded platform?
674. # [04:22] <@bsmedberg> bz: linux gets the fastest results in general
675. # [04:22] <RyanVM> for builds or tests?
676. # [04:22] <@bz> linux, not linux64?
677. # [04:22] <@bsmedberg> oh, uh
678. # [04:22] <RyanVM> i'd argue osx is fastest for both
679. # [04:22] <@bz> RyanVM: build + unit test, no talos
680. # [04:22] <@bz> sold
681. # [04:23] * nthomas|away is now known as nthomas
682. # [04:23] * @bz does osx
683. # [04:23] <RyanVM> linux is very backed up on try
684. # [04:23] <@bz> yeah
685. # [04:23] <@gavin> hmm? https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/pending shows no results for try
686. # [04:23] <@gavin> er, for linux I mean
687. # [04:23] <@gavin> oh, fedora :(
688. # [04:23] <RyanVM> gavin: tbpl sure shows them
689. # [04:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e8c00e00ff - Scott Johnson - Bug 787267: Add capability to import-tests.py to mark tests as failing. [r=dbaron]
690. # [04:23] * jlebar|away is now known as jlebar
691. # [04:23] <RyanVM> oh :)
692. # [04:23] <@bz> weren't there graphs somewhere?
693. # [04:23] <@bz> instead of tables?
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695. # [04:24] <@gavin> though none of those are builds
696. # [04:24] * @bz pushes macosx64
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699. # [04:26] <RyanVM> gavin: yeah, builds are pretty fast. it's the tests that are behind
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705. # [04:34] <@ehsan> jduell: ping
706. # [04:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/839b06aaa954 - Donovan Preston - Bug 784897 - Remove nsITCPSocket constants. r=sicking
707. # [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce16c39e01fb - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 787658 - Recalculate mtime once the target is built. r=khuey
708. # [04:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6705e131aeaa - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
709. # [04:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b37d27e4c23 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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713. # [04:39] <RyanVM> luke: you may have mochitest-other debug orange
714. # [04:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37f1d3a34703 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788099 - Remove BytecodeEmitter::constMap. r=luke.
715. # [04:40] <Unfocused> i don't need explicit approval to land a test-only change on aurora, do i?
716. # [04:41] <RyanVM> no
717. # [04:41] <Unfocused> ty
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721. # [04:42] <RyanVM> philor: luke: I'm heading off to bed. We should be seeing more debug m-oth results soon, but things are looking suspicious. Night.
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724. # [04:45] <Tanner> Okay... What can I use to debug with? My VS trial seems to have expired, and I don't want to pay $800 or whatever for it.
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726. # [04:46] <@gavin> visual studio express is free
727. # [04:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04b67eeb817f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 7887ace84c7d (bug 786801) due to mochitest-other orange.
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730. # [04:49] <Tanner> gavin: "Visual C++ 2010 Express" ?
731. # [04:49] <@gavin> there's also a 2012 now, I think
732. # [04:49] <@gavin> though I don't know which one is better, i hven't used them
733. # [04:49] <Tanner> I found that, but it only works on Windows 8...
734. # [04:49] <Tanner> way to support your platforms, Microsoft.
735. # [04:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fefdc97754e1 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 785305 - Teach Reflect.parse about the strange parse node structure of defaulted formals that alias functions. r=jorendorff
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737. # [04:51] * Unfocused looks at m-i
738. # [04:51] <Unfocused> holy backlog, batman
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740. # [04:51] <reuben> my build times have increased by orders of magnitude after pulling earlier this week. at first I thought I was imagining things but it's like my -j4 build is now a -j1 :(
741. # [04:52] <reuben> linking libxul is taking *specially* long… anyone else experiencing a similar problem?
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747. # [04:57] * reuben hopes it wasn't the OS X 10.8.1 update that caused this
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750. # [04:57] <jduell> ehsan: pong
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752. # [04:57] <@ehsan> jduell: nm, figured it out :)
753. # [04:58] <jduell> ehsan: mmmK
754. # [04:58] <@ehsan> sorry for not unpinging!
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756. # [05:00] <@ehsan> jduell: actually, I do have a question
757. # [05:00] <@ehsan> jduell: what is exactly the wyciwyg protocol about?
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760. # [05:03] <Tanner> hmm, I clicked on properties in task manager, and this came up: http://cl.ly/image/2x1E0O0V342L
761. # [05:03] <@bz> reuben: I _have_ noticed longer libxul links recently....
762. # [05:03] <Tanner> is that maybe a problem?
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768. # [05:11] <firebot> Check-in:
769. # [05:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a014a515052 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 787131. Move management of primary content state stuff from the nsSubDocumentFrame into the nsFrameLoader, so it works on display:none elements. r=jlebar
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776. # [05:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24ba2e430a60 - Boris Zbarsky - Revert changeset b96a7ceeb647, since it had no effect on build stuff. Bug 787498, no review, DONTBUILD
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780. # [05:16] <@ehsan> bz: ping
781. # [05:17] <reuben> bz: I'm starting to think it's a system problem, not specific to building mozilla. all applications are hanging for a few secs when launched or focused after being in the background for a while. google shows similar reports connected to OS X 10.8.1
782. # [05:18] <reuben> 10.8.2 is already on the dev channel, if it doesn't fix this problem I'll downgrade to 10.8
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785. # [05:22] <@bz> ehsan: ack
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787. # [05:22] <@ehsan> bz: so this will turn out to be uglier than I realized...
788. # [05:22] <@bz> ehsan: oh?
789. # [05:23] <@ehsan> bz: NS_UsePrivateBrowsing which is the current way of querying the PB flag for a channel just calls NS_QueryNotificationCallbasks and calls UsePrivateBrowsing() on the result
790. # [05:23] <@ehsan> bz: which means that either SetPrivate needs to modify the load context object (ugh) which has the problem of not knowing what to do when we really don't have a load context
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792. # [05:24] <@ehsan> bz: or we need to teach NS_UsePrivateBrowsing about overriden PB modes
793. # [05:24] <@ehsan> bz: which requires a second isPrivateModeOverriden() method on nsIChannel :(
794. # [05:24] <@ehsan> bz: (but at least that second one is [noscript]
795. # [05:24] <@bz> or more args on NS_UsePrivateBrowsing ?
796. # [05:25] <@ehsan> bz: how does that help?
797. # [05:25] <@bz> can't you just pass in your override, if any?
798. # [05:25] <@ehsan> bz: the caller doesn't know whether there is an override
799. # [05:25] <@bz> hrm
800. # [05:25] <@ehsan> which is the point behind isPrivateModeOverriden
801. # [05:25] <@bz> the caller is not the channel?
802. # [05:25] <@ehsan> no
803. # [05:25] <@ehsan> it's something that has the channel
804. # [05:25] <@bz> but has a pointer to the channel
805. # [05:25] * @bz cries
806. # [05:26] <@ehsan> (NS_Use... takes an nsIChannel)
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808. # [05:26] <@ehsan> yeah
809. # [05:26] <@ehsan> bz: I hate myself so much at this point that I may sleep on this
810. # [05:26] <@ehsan> but honestly I don't think there is any other solutions :(
811. # [05:26] <@ehsan> bz: and this would be even worse if we went down the dictionary route..
812. # [05:26] <@bz> ok
813. # [05:26] <@bz> right
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817. # [05:27] <@ehsan> bz: I'll put this stuff on the bug...
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819. # [05:28] <@bz> sounds good
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823. # [05:30] <qDot> Hmm. Who maintains trychooser? I think the "b2g" platform name is no longer "b2g".
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825. # [05:31] <qDot> So we only get b2g builds in a -p all.
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828. # [05:32] <@ehsan> qDot: file a bug in mozilla.org::Release Engineering
829. # [05:32] <Tanner> I feel really dumb asking this, especially in here, but is there any reason that Firefox would just hang in a clean profile, after I just un/reinstalled it, I haven't installed any programs or anything, it just started happening.
830. # [05:32] <qDot> ehsan: Will do. Thanks.
831. # [05:33] <Tanner> the only thing I can think of was a Java update...
832. # [05:34] <nthomas> qDot: if you look in mozilla.org Release Engineering: Developer Services you may find an existing bug
833. # [05:34] <@bz> er...
834. # [05:35] <@bz> what's this win64 opt red?
835. # [05:35] * philor bets on pymake
836. # [05:35] <qDot> nthomas: Nothin' came up when I filed the new bug. Moved component to moz::RE::Dev Tools though
837. # [05:36] * cjones-food is now known as cjones
838. # [05:36] <nthomas> bug 767501 ?
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841. # [05:39] <qDot> Wow. This has been broken since June.
842. # [05:39] <qDot> I guess I mostly do -p all builds. :|
843. # [05:39] <qDot> Marking dupe, moving on. :|
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853. # [05:47] <karl> jlebar|away: how does one measure per-process space-on-swap?
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862. # [05:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/849137ee7609 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 787743: Back out bug 722845 and bug 748890; a=lsblakk
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870. # [06:00] <jesup> !seen ryanvm
871. # [06:00] <firebot> ryanvm was last seen 78 minutes ago, saying 'philor: luke: I'm heading off to bed. We should be seeing more debug m-oth results soon, but things are looking suspicious. Night.' in #developers.
872. # [06:01] <philor> ehsan: beta seems displeased with you
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874. # [06:02] <@ehsan> philor: ouch... I'll back out
875. # [06:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35e22307b242 - Chris Pearce - Bug 788387 - Add -moz-box-sizing:border-box to :-moz-full-screen. r=roc
876. # [06:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/98bde6121840 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 849137ee7609 (bug 787743) because of build failures; a=me
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883. # [06:11] <reuben> bz: FWIW the problem was that my text editor was using 6GB of memory, so everything was causing memory paging :)
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891. # [06:12] <Unfocused> that'll teach you for using emacs
892. # [06:12] <@bz> reuben: heh
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894. # [06:12] * @bz has almost never had emacs use that much RAM
895. # [06:13] <reuben> Unfocused: haha, it was TextMate 2
896. # [06:13] <Unfocused> "almost never"
897. # [06:13] <@bz> The one time I opened an 8GB log file doesn't count, obviously. ;)
898. # [06:13] <reuben> that's what I get for using nightly builds I guess
899. # [06:13] <jesup> philor: ryanvm pinged me a few hours ago; any idea why?
900. # [06:13] <Unfocused> heh
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902. # [06:13] * @bz tries the 8GB thing first on a machine with 768 megs of RAM
903. # [06:13] <@bz> that did not work that well
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905. # [06:13] <@bz> then I just did it over remote X on the machine that had produced the log
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907. # [06:13] <@bz> which had the RAM to play games like that
908. # [06:14] <@bz> (this was back in 2002 or so.....)
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913. # [06:15] <philor> jesup: did you land something he might have been suspicious about?
914. # [06:15] <@bz> I hate coffeescript now
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919. # [06:17] <Unfocused> only now?
920. # [06:17] <@bz> Unfocused: well, I haven't had to deal with it until now
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923. # [06:17] <Unfocused> ah
924. # [06:18] <@bz> note that my hate is as browser implementor, not page author
925. # [06:18] <jesup> bz: my emacs has been running since July 12, and is using a grand total of 500MB VM space (much less RSS) - only about 450 buffers
926. # [06:18] <@bz> I have no idea how it is as page author. ;)
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928. # [06:18] <@bz> jesup: yeah, that's more or less normal. ;)
929. # [06:19] <jesup> philor: The only thing possible is bug 773151 (nsCAutoString->nsAutoCString). That went quite smoothly, and was back on Saturday night
930. # [06:19] <Unfocused> depends on whether you like visual basic or not
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932. # [06:20] <philor> jesup: the only other things I can think of is if you have a patch that he desperately wants to see land, or a review where he wasn't sure whether something checkin-needed was actually really ready to land
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934. # [06:20] <@bz> Unfocused: heh
935. # [06:21] <@bz> Unfocused: never really used that much either
936. # [06:21] * @bz got corrupted into the perl, then C++ camp early
937. # [06:21] <@bz> well, and I guess Scheme a bit
938. # [06:21] <@bz> and recently python
939. # [06:21] <@bz> anyway
940. # [06:22] <@bz> boo coffeescript
941. # [06:22] <Unfocused> hehe :)
942. # [06:23] <jesup> philor: well, no comments from him on any bugs I'm cc'd on and no email, so I guess I'll wait for him to ping me again. Thanks
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945. # [06:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bde8f163d35 - Brad Lassey - bug 761503 - return a bool from PumpMessageLoop to indicate if work was performed r=snorp
946. # [06:27] <jesup> bz: VB is something I avoided totally. I remember enough of programming in basic (and did it for money in high school, and on my TRS-80). When the first C compiler came out for the C64 I started playing with C, and then (after doing a lot of ASM and Forth and PL/1) switched to C (and much later c++) when the Amiga came out. VB seemed a totally odd concept to me, and a step backwards. ...
947. # [06:27] <jesup> ...From a conceptual POV, I like objective-c.
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970. # [06:45] <kk1fff> jduell, ping
971. # [06:45] <jduell> kk1fff: pong
972. # [06:46] <philor> ehsan: and aurora would like to speak to you about an xpcshell test
973. # [06:47] <kk1fff> jduell, hi, I am interested by working on bug 786419. Are you planing to take it?
974. # [06:47] <@ehsan> philor: ouch, I'll backout there as well :(
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1016. # [07:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85d7349e7086 - Shian-Yow Wu - Bug 787406 - B2G Network Manager: Allow only one default route at the same time. r=philikon.
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1028. # [08:00] <nibalizer> hello, i have a problem with firefox in my environment
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1030. # [08:00] <nibalizer> the problem is that we have NFS mounted home directories that go out to ubuntu desktop boxes
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1032. # [08:01] <nibalizer> if someone logs into one box, runs firefox, and then goes to another box without logging out, they get a 'Profile already in use' error
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1034. # [08:02] <nibalizer> the work around seems to be gnome-terminal -> firefox -ProfileManager, but this is a high bar for some of my users who are deathly afraid of the terminal
1035. # [08:02] <nibalizer> are there flags i can set, or bits i can twiddle
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1037. # [08:02] <nibalizer> can i exchange the possiblity of profile corruption for the ease of use of 'just works'?
1038. # [08:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5ef9db325d8 - Tim Taubert - Bug 776928 - When doing lazy tab restoration, set the <browser>s in question to display:none until restored. r=dao
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1042. # [08:06] <bkero> nibalizer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397650
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1046. # [08:09] <KWierso|Home> I wonder if you could do something crazy when it detects the profile in use elsewhere where it'd automatically create a new temporary profile that is pre-set to use Sync to pull everything from the original profile over.
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1049. # [08:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2bbf690626ab - Brian Nicholson - Bug 787570 - Fix relative URLs in reader mode. r=lucasr a=lsblakk
1050. # [08:10] <KWierso|Home> and then delete the temporary profile when you close the browser, after uploading to Sync all of the recent changes...
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1056. # [08:13] <glandium> jlebar|away: afaik, there's only an opt-in. if it's enabled system-wide, you're essentially screwed
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1060. # [08:16] <nibalizer> KWierso|Home: would i be able to make that seamless w/o logging in?
1061. # [08:17] <nibalizer> like w/o logging into the firefox service?
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1063. # [08:17] <KWierso|Home> nibalizer: you could run a local Sync server, I think
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1065. # [08:17] <nibalizer> local to my institution or local to the machine?
1066. # [08:17] <KWierso|Home> no clue if something like that'd actually work, though
1067. # [08:18] <KWierso|Home> probably institution
1068. # [08:18] <nibalizer> KWierso|Home: is there a hook that fires when firefox 'detects' that the profile is in use elsewhere?
1069. # [08:18] <nibalizer> or is that just like [ -f firefox_profile_in_use ]
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1071. # [08:19] <KWierso|Home> though I think the shiny new win8 metro firefox was playing with the idea of a local Sync instance to keep metro and desktop profiles in sync
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1073. # [08:19] <KWierso|Home> nibalizer: no clue. I was mostly just rambling ;)
1074. # [08:20] <nibalizer> KWierso|Home: this is informative anywyas
1075. # [08:20] <nibalizer> thanks a bunch
1076. # [08:20] <nibalizer> since `firefox` is just a shell anyways, I can get hacking
1077. # [08:20] <nibalizer> and you informed me that its not me, its not an obscure about:config setting, I have to go full throttle ninja to get this wokring
1078. # [08:20] <KWierso|Home> nibalizer: you might try asking in #sync if there's a way to do this that they know of
1079. # [08:20] <nibalizer> KWierso|Home: thats
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1081. # [08:21] <KWierso|Home> and maybe #windev to see what the win8 stuff is thinking about using
1082. # [08:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6300a954d434 - Shih-Chiang Chien - Bug 784590 - No onchange event after seleted options by value selector(mozbrowser <select>), r=fabrice
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1085. # [08:24] <KWierso|Home> nibalizer: it's also the middle of the night for the western hemisphere, so you might have better luck asking in 10-12 hours :)
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1094. # [08:33] <nibalizer> KWierso|Home: yea
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1120. # [08:58] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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1133. # [09:11] * Unfocused wonders why he has .egg-info directories polluting his source dir again
1134. # [09:11] <Ms2ger> See the newsgroups
1135. # [09:12] <Unfocused> but then i'd have to see the newsgroups
1136. # [09:12] <glob> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d034d1924fc7
1137. # [09:12] <Ms2ger> hg status -un | grep .egg-info | xargs rm -rf
1138. # [09:12] <Unfocused> ty kind sirs
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1140. # [09:14] <Ms2ger> Yw
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1142. # [09:14] <Unfocused> hm, that doesn't appear to work for me (on windows)
1143. # [09:15] <Ms2ger> Oh
1144. # [09:15] <glob> Unfocused, cygwin :P
1145. # [09:15] <Ms2ger> I'm just going to blame windows
1146. # [09:16] <Unfocused> glob: i'd rather use perl
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1148. # [09:16] <glob> Unfocused++
1149. # [09:16] * Ms2ger looks at the clock, waves at philor
1150. # [09:16] <philor> Ms2ger: good, ugh, morning
1151. # [09:16] * Unfocused cleans up manually
1152. # [09:16] <Ms2ger> Sorry :)
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1155. # [09:17] <Unfocused> oh... doesn't work because "hg status" outputs paths using \ as the directory separator
1156. # [09:19] <Ms2ger> Stick a perl oneliner in between to replace that slashes? :)
1157. # [09:19] <glob> or just use perl to delete, it'll work with either slash
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1160. # [09:20] <Unfocused> sed ftw
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1162. # [09:21] <Ms2ger> m.d.platform :)
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1164. # [09:22] <Unfocused> yea, i found it :)
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1247. # [10:09] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
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1249. # [10:09] <Ms2ger> Morning :)
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1261. # [10:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8ceb8dd4f1cb - Landry Breuil - Bug 786588: Readd 32 bits padding for non-methodjit 32 bits archs. r=njn a=lsblakk
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1263. # [10:23] <gaston> hm seems firebot doesnt print the aurora pushes
1264. # [10:24] <edmorley> gaston: bug 782928
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1266. # [10:25] <gaston> thx
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1271. # [10:29] <NeilAway> Unfocused--
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1274. # [10:31] <glazou> bonjour
1275. # [10:31] <NeilAway> Unfocused: not one, but two mistakes in your post :-P
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1286. # [10:43] <sliv> I'm getting "No TimeStamp implementation on this platform. Build will not succeed. Stop." when building on ubuntu 12.04. Anyone have any ideas?
1287. # [10:43] <sliv> * I meant building FF
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1295. # [10:49] <@smaug> sliv: sounds odd
1296. # [10:49] <@smaug> you aren't cross-compiling or anything?
1297. # [10:49] <sliv> smaug: not to my knowledge
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1300. # [10:50] <sliv> I think HAVE_CLOCK_MONOTONIC is not defined
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1306. # [10:53] <sliv> I just replaced the else statement here https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c06577220b1b with http://pastebin.com/cZsz5V49 and it seems to be building OK now. Not sure if it's a bug or I'm missing something though
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1310. # [10:57] <@smaug> sliv: I guess for some strange reason http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#3223 fails on your system
1311. # [10:59] <Unfocused> NeilAway: pfft, it works :P
1312. # [10:59] * Unfocused afk for a bit
1313. # [10:59] <sliv> smaug: Makes sense. No idea why, I'll try to find out
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1316. # [11:01] <@smaug> haa, victory
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1325. # [11:13] <Optimizer> what is the nick of Gervase ?
1326. # [11:13] <@smaug> gerv
1327. # [11:13] <Optimizer> what timezone he resides ? (PDT ?)
1328. # [11:13] <@smaug> GMT
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1330. # [11:14] <Optimizer> +000 ? :O
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1334. # [11:17] <glandium> this time of year, he's GMT+1
1335. # [11:20] <edmorley> Optimizer: though he is away until the 9th http://blog.gerv.net/2012/08/absences/
1336. # [11:20] <Optimizer> damn, ok please answer this question, anyone
1337. # [11:20] <Optimizer> how far is midday ZDT ?
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1343. # [11:23] <@smaug> noouu
1344. # [11:24] <Optimizer> smaug: ?
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1346. # [11:24] <@smaug> mattwoodrow|away: once you're back, could you explain how dlbi interacts with refreshdriver
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1351. # [11:30] <Optimizer> how far is midday ZDT ?
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1354. # [11:33] <@smaug> ah, roc would know... how does dlbi interact with refresh driver?
1355. # [11:33] <@smaug> is it currently only the top most refresh driver which causes repaints?
1356. # [11:33] <@roc> a lot
1357. # [11:34] <@roc> by "currently" you mean on trunk right now?
1358. # [11:34] <@smaug> yes
1359. # [11:34] <@smaug> well, anything without Bug 784882
1360. # [11:35] <@smaug> which makes chrome driver to drive also children
1361. # [11:35] <@smaug> (unless child is throttled )
1362. # [11:36] <@roc> yes, currently painting is triggered by the topmost refresh driver
1363. # [11:37] <@smaug> ok, so my patch won't affect painting. good
1364. # [11:38] <@roc> it will interact with Vlad's timer patch though
1365. # [11:38] <@smaug> hmm
1366. # [11:38] <@smaug> what is that
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1368. # [11:40] <@roc> bug 731974
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1376. # [11:42] * @smaug could complain about using inconsistent coding style in that patch
1377. # [11:42] <@roc> go ahead
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1380. # [11:47] <@smaug> roc: with vlad's patch, painting would still happen based on chrome timer
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1382. # [11:48] <@smaug> but PreciseRefreshDriverTimer would possibly run for content
1383. # [11:49] <@smaug> hmm
1384. # [11:49] <@smaug> nm
1385. # [11:49] <@smaug> I wonder if my patch is useless
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1399. # [12:02] <gaston> hmmmm doesnt comm-aurora checkout mozilla-aurora tip ?
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1402. # [12:03] <gaston> several m-a commits are not under mozilla in my c-a clone..
1403. # [12:04] <gaston> oh no, my mistake
1404. # [12:04] <gaston> doh.
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1406. # [12:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0469860cebfb - Jonathan Watt - Bug 767056 - Stop calling nsLayoutUtils::PostRestyleEvent during reflow to avoid infinite loop. r=roc, a=akeybl.
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1429. # [12:27] <darktrojan> there should be an arewebuildingfasteryet.com
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1432. # [12:27] <darktrojan> it doesn't feel like we are :/
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1443. # [12:40] <Callek> darktrojan: you mean something liek: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-09-04#Tree_Management
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1446. # [12:40] <Callek> darktrojan: /me whistles
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1448. # [12:41] <darktrojan> nice drop
1449. # [12:41] <darktrojan> what do the numbers mean
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1451. # [12:42] <Ms2ger> # of dead unicorns
1452. # [12:42] <darktrojan> oh right
1453. # [12:42] <darktrojan> wait, so if it goes down there's zombie unicorns?
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1458. # [12:44] <firebot> Check-in:
1459. # [12:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df1a1a1cfaf4 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 787089. Rip out mUpdatePluginGeometryForFrame optimization. It's not known to be a significant win, and creates problems when prescontext ancestor chains are
1460. # [12:44] <firebot> broken; the complexity probably isn't worthwhile. Also, soon (or now) we can rework plugin bounds computation to be use the display list built for rendering. r=matspal
1461. # [12:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00d23ffe3105 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 787623. Call MarkContextClean immediately if we're not going to receive a DidTransactionCallback. r=joedrew
1462. # [12:44] <Callek> darktrojan: I *think* the numbers mean seconds
1463. # [12:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b354d6a9c90 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 785588. Perform asynchronous scroll operations before firing requestAnimationFrame callbacks. r=tnikkel
1464. # [12:45] <Callek> darktrojan: but you can extrapolate when you take the "we improved... 45 minutes" statement in that
1465. # [12:45] <darktrojan> oic it's pgo time
1466. # [12:46] <darktrojan> good good
1467. # [12:46] <darktrojan> doesn't mean much for my local build though :(
1468. # [12:48] <NeilAway> beta is 16?
1469. # [12:48] <Callek> NeilAway: correct
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1471. # [12:50] <darktrojan> don't-tell-users-what-version-it-is = success
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1473. # [12:52] <NeilAway> darktrojan: s/users/developers/ actually ;-)
1474. # [12:52] <darktrojan> you also use it
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1476. # [12:52] <darktrojan> sometimes
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1482. # [12:56] <Ms2ger> darktrojan, nah, he only uses Seamonkey
1483. # [12:57] <darktrojan> yeah well nobody knows what version that is
1484. # [12:57] <sid0> darktrojan: well a PGO build takes around 80 minutes linking xul on the second pass
1485. # [12:58] <sid0> not much we can do about that
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1518. # [13:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/83ba44d1231c - Paul Rouget - Bug 785910 - [Developer Toolbar] Inspector button and Web Console buttons remain selected after opening a new tab. r=jwalker
1519. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2e5e12afabde - Victor Porof - Merge m-c to fx-team
1520. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/01fba3ea3d13 - Paul Rouget - Bug 736465 - Pref for Inspect Element context menu item. r=dao r=dcamp
1521. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/19450d9f0f4c - Blair McBride - Bug 787253 - Addons Manager XPCShell tests that set AddonManager.checkCompatibility too early are failing on Aurora 17 nightly builds. r=Mossop
1522. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/393d50f1cdc5 - Fraser Gutteridge - Bug 759642 - Part 2: Add-ons Manager should use Components.Exception consistently when throwing exceptions. r=Unfocused
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1525. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8518de3a9edf - Paul Rouget - Bug 786619 - Infobar reappears on some conditions even in 3D mode. r=msucan
1526. # [13:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1362d353a30d - Paul Rouget - Bug 787952 - When switching back to an inspected tab, the outline is not visible anymore. r=jwalker
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1535. # [13:36] <gaston> hm was it considered to use pdf.js inside thunderbird to open pdf attachements ? (maybe there's already a bug for that..)
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1537. # [13:38] <gaston> hah, 766901
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1547. # [13:43] <darktrojan> I think there's an addon
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1549. # [13:44] <gaston> maybe the pdf.js original addon for tb ?
1550. # [13:45] <Optimizer> who is the main lead for reflect.parse ?
1551. # [13:45] <Optimizer> in other words, I had some doubts regarding it
1552. # [13:46] <gaston> hmm according to http://blog.xulforum.org/index.php?post/2011/12/03/Leveraging-pdf.js-in-Thunderbird tb conversations does it
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1555. # [13:48] <darktrojan> that's what I was thinking of gaston
1556. # [13:49] <gaston> strange that it has to come from conversations when content/pdfjs could be bundled into tb's omni.ja :)
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1559. # [13:50] <darktrojan> someone's got to write the code first
1560. # [13:52] <darktrojan> thunderbird is sadly lacking in contributors
1561. # [13:53] <darktrojan> lightning moreso
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1563. # [13:54] <gaston> yeah :(
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1595. # [14:29] <Optimizer> anybody knows when MozCamp Asia's nominations results will be out ?
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1597. # [14:29] <paul> Optimizer: still working on it
1598. # [14:30] <Optimizer> as in ?
1599. # [14:31] <paul> Optimizer: still working on the list - it's not finalized yet
1600. # [14:32] <Optimizer> oh, thanks for the heads up
1601. # [14:32] <Optimizer> are you also working on it ?
1602. # [14:32] <paul> yes.
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1604. # [14:34] <Optimizer> paul: I read your tweet, you are also attending the camp next week or so, right ?
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1606. # [14:34] <paul> yes.
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1608. # [14:35] <Optimizer> cool
1609. # [14:36] <evilpie> me too, when i get there ;)
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1611. # [14:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2bc7b6958cd - Patrick McManus - bug 648603 - update connection limits; especially for proxies r=jduell
1612. # [14:38] <paul> good news! We now have a placeholder for the inspector sidebar in tabbrowser :D (in central)
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1621. # [14:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/233275bcbdf6 - Patrick McManus - bug 652928 add socks proxy host:port information to connection info key r=jduell
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1665. # [15:12] <@bsmedberg> ted: pong
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1668. # [15:12] <@ted> bsmedberg: i was going to ask you about GRE directories
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1670. # [15:12] <@bsmedberg> hehe
1671. # [15:12] <@ted> i have this patch that changes how we run C++ unit tests
1672. # [15:13] <@ted> wrote a little python wrapper around them so we can handle crashes and get stacks
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1674. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> Is it a module? ;)
1675. # [15:13] <@ted> Ms2ger: yep
1676. # [15:13] <@bsmedberg> ooh, crash stacks
1677. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> \o/
1678. # [15:13] <@ted> but i changed a few fundamental things, like running them out of the objdir where they're built, not dist/bin, and running them with cwd=a temp dir
1679. # [15:13] <@ted> so this apparently breaks some tests on win32
1680. # [15:13] <@ted> i guess on linux it works because we respect MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME?
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1682. # [15:14] <@bsmedberg> do we still
1683. # [15:14] <@bsmedberg> that makes me sad
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1687. # [15:15] <@ted> i know, right
1688. # [15:15] <@ted> so anyway, turns out TestHarness.h already has a directory service provider so it can hand out a fake profile dir as needed
1689. # [15:15] <@ted> so i can just use an env var and hand that out as the GRE dir there
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1693. # [15:16] <Fallen> hmm how do I find out the order of the postflight_all targets?
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1695. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> !seen gerv
1696. # [15:17] <firebot> gerv was last seen 8 days, 21 hours, 47 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying ':-)' in #developers.
1697. # [15:17] <@ted> his blog said he'd be out till the 9th, i think
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1699. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Do we have someone else who can say that our tests are in the public domain?
1700. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Someone from webkit wants to use some
1701. # [15:19] <@ted> do the tests in question have a license file on them?
1702. # [15:19] <Ms2ger> No
1703. # [15:19] <@ted> i'd guess not, otherwise that'd be easy
1704. # [15:19] <@ted> ugh
1705. # [15:19] <Ms2ger> Do they ever? :)
1706. # [15:19] <@ted> some of them have the PD declaration
1707. # [15:20] <Ms2ger> We should stick that in the template
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1709. # [15:21] <@ted> srsly
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1731. # [15:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d625d938c36d - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 778150 part 1. Remove the vestigial ability to specify infallibility stuff in the conf file. r=peterv
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1733. # [15:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5cb9f5f29ead - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 778150 part 2. Default methods to infallible. Allow annotation of fallible methods in WebIDL using [Throws]. r=peterv
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1750. # [15:43] <mkaply> Q: Mac build instructions say: Xcode 4.2 no longer ships with GCC, so you need to add the following to your .mozconfig to use Clang (llvm-gcc does not seem to work either
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1754. # [15:44] <mkaply> I have a brand new lion install, and it has gcc (I'm guessing it came from homebrew)
1755. # [15:44] <mkaply> Should I try to use the GCC that is there or install clang?
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1760. # [15:47] <ewong> mkaply: install clang.. as eventually you'll need it
1761. # [15:47] <Ms2ger> mkaply, the gcc you've got is 4.2, is it not?
1762. # [15:48] <mkaply> gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2336.11.00)
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1764. # [15:48] <gaston> if it's 4.2 it wont build, you'd need 784029 at least
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1766. # [15:48] <@ted> yeah
1767. # [15:48] <@ted> use clang
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1769. # [15:49] <mkaply> Is there a specific version of clang? or just brew install clang. The docs seem to indicate versions of clang, but provide no info on installing it.
1770. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> ted, would you say it would be nice to error out early when someone tries to compile with 4.2?
1771. # [15:49] <@ted> yes
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1773. # [15:49] <gaston> yes !
1774. # [15:49] <@ted> we should probably explicitly unsupport everything < gcc 4.4
1775. # [15:50] <@ted> also we need to fix that bug where we select gcc-4.2 on mac
1776. # [15:50] <@ted> and should probably look for clang before gcc at this point
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1778. # [15:50] <jcranmer> do we have an official documentation on the version compatibility matrix we have at this point?
1779. # [15:50] <@ted> probably not, no
1780. # [15:50] <gaston> and update the doc, see 786952
1781. # [15:50] <gaston> it's on mdn so everyone can do it.. but.. it needs info from the ground up :)
1782. # [15:50] <mkaply> brew install clang
1783. # [15:50] <mkaply> Error: No available formula for clang
1784. # [15:51] <mkaply> Please don't make me use ports. Please don't make me use ports
1785. # [15:51] <@ted> my official decree: we don't support GCC < 4.4
1786. # [15:51] <Ms2ger> mkaply, Ubuntu? :)
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1788. # [15:51] <jcranmer> meh, download the source code and compile it yourself? :-)
1789. # [15:51] <@ted> we support clang (although I'm not sure what versions)
1790. # [15:51] <mkaply> Ms2ger: fresh install on my mac
1791. # [15:51] <@ted> we support VC++ 2010 and 2008, and maybe 2005
1792. # [15:51] <@ted> but the latter is pretty close to deprecation
1793. # [15:51] <mkaply> trying to keep it pretty. Ports just junks it up
1794. # [15:51] <gaston> what's the deal with gcc 4.3 then ? it has smth more than 4.2 but not worth the effort ?
1795. # [15:52] <@ted> gaston: doesn't seem worthwhile
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1797. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58b3dd6f374e - Geoff Brown - Bug 783011 - Change order of command line args for android xpcshell tests; r=jmaher
1798. # [15:52] <@ted> hrmph, two crashes today
1799. # [15:52] <@ted> heh, one in js::SPSProfiler
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1801. # [15:52] <@ted> BenWa: ^^
1802. # [15:53] <BenWa> ted: File a bug
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1804. # [15:53] <@ted> BenWa: in JS?
1805. # [15:53] <@ted> it's in js::SPSProfiler::JMChunkInfo::convert
1806. # [15:53] <BenWa> yes, CC me
1807. # [15:53] <@ted> okay
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1809. # [15:54] <BenWa> ted: If it bothering you just uncheck the JS Profiling option
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1812. # [15:54] <@ted> BenWa: only hit it once, AFAICT
1813. # [15:54] <@ted> the other crash was something else
1814. # [15:54] <@ted> something under GC
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1816. # [15:55] <BenWa> Probably some rare race condition
1817. # [15:55] <jmaher> gps: ping
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1819. # [15:55] <@ted> bug 788495
1820. # [15:56] <mkaply> ah. Clang was already there. Just had to change .moconfig to use it
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1822. # [15:57] <jcranmer> ted: IME, clang 3.1 definitely works, clang 3.0 probably works; anything older doesn't
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1830. # [16:01] <jmaher> I was looking into using mach, but ./mach is not found on my system; are there other docs besides https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/mach ?
1831. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> It's not landed yet
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1833. # [16:01] <jmaher> so the doc is premature ;)
1834. # [16:01] <gaston> it's in a bug/user repo
1835. # [16:02] <gaston> i think gps did blog how to get/try it
1836. # [16:02] <Ms2ger> It's waiting for vlad
1837. # [16:02] <jmaher> google didn't turn up his blog, let me look on planet
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1839. # [16:03] <gaston> jmaher: http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2012/08/15/build-firefox-faster-with-build-splendid/
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1843. # [16:06] <jmaher> thanks gaston
1844. # [16:07] <mounir> jlebar|away++
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1849. # [16:07] <jlebar> mounir, I'm surprised you're still asking me for reviews after the ones I did last night. :)
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1853. # [16:08] <mounir> jlebar: I haven't read them yet actually :)
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1864. # [16:10] <Ms2ger> gerv!
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1867. # [16:11] <gerv> Hey :-)
1868. # [16:11] * gerv is happy to be greeted so warmly
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1870. # [16:11] <gerv> I've been away on holiday for a week.
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1872. # [16:11] <@ted> hope it was a good one!
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1874. # [16:12] <Ms2ger> Well, it's that I need you ;)
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1876. # [16:13] <Ms2ger> gerv, bug 498998; we'd like to share those tests (by khuey and Alex Vincent) with webkit and the W3C
1877. # [16:13] <gerv> ted: yes, thank you :-) Very restful.
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1879. # [16:14] <gerv> Ms2ger: Isn't there an existing process for this?
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1881. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> gerv, for outgoing tests? I wish I knew about one :)
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1886. # [16:16] <gerv> Ms2ger: comment added.
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1888. # [16:18] <@ted> jcranmer|away: if you or espindola wanted to put together a list of support clang versions that'd be great
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1890. # [16:18] <Ms2ger> gerv, so to be clear, we do need to poke the original author?
1891. # [16:18] <gerv> Yes.
1892. # [16:18] <gerv> if they didn't put a licence on it,
1893. # [16:18] <gerv> you need to assume MPL 2.
1894. # [16:18] <gerv> Mozilla has no problem with it being PD, but you need to ask the author.
1895. # [16:18] <gerv> If they are a Mozilla employee, I can just declare it PD,
1896. # [16:18] <gerv> but politeness suggests you should ask.
1897. # [16:19] <Ms2ger> Right
1898. # [16:19] <Ms2ger> I don't think Alex is an employee
1899. # [16:19] <@ted> he's not
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1903. # [16:20] <@ted> gerv: can we put in place some policy that says all our tests are PD unless otherwise explicitly licensed?
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1905. # [16:20] <@ted> that'd be neat
1906. # [16:21] <gerv> ted: seems pretty broad.
1907. # [16:21] <@ted> sure
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1909. # [16:21] <gerv> Happy to consider something like that, but perhaps we should scope it to "web features" or something?
1910. # [16:22] <gerv> We'd also want general agreement from the relevant teams.
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1913. # [16:22] <@ted> i'd have a hard time believing anyone would be against liberal licensing of tests
1914. # [16:22] <@ted> but okay
1915. # [16:22] <gerv> And we'd have to figure out whether it was a "change of default", or mandatory.
1916. # [16:22] <gerv> My plate is currently very full.
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1918. # [16:22] <gerv> File a bug in mozilla.org/Licensing :-)
1919. # [16:22] * gerv admires 1201 non-spam unread
1920. # [16:22] <@ted> i would also be okay with mandatory, but just being able to say "any test file not explicitly otherwise licensed is PD" would be nice
1921. # [16:22] <@ted> okay
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1925. # [16:23] <kk1fff> jlebar: ping
1926. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> ted, cc me? :)
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1930. # [16:24] <jlebar> kk1fff, hey
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1934. # [16:26] <kk1fff> jlebar: hi, I've update patch of bug 775464, could you help me on reviewing?
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1938. # [16:26] <jlebar> kk1fff, Yes, I promise I will as soon as I can. I'm extremely backed up at the moment.
1939. # [16:26] <jlebar> kk1fff, I had two work weeks in a row, and I wasn't able to keep up with my reviews during those two weeks.
1940. # [16:27] <jlebar> kk1fff, I'm sorry for the delay. :(
1941. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> jlebar, that's what weekends are for ;)
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1943. # [16:27] <kk1fff> jlebar: it's ok. thank you :)
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1954. # [16:33] <@ted> Ms2ger, gerv: bug 788511
1955. # [16:33] <@ted> boy we are creeping up on 800000 aren't we
1956. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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1958. # [16:33] <gerv> ted: enter the competition :-)
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1960. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> ted, man, Firefox is so buggy!
1961. # [16:33] <gerv> http://blog.gerv.net/2012/08/bugzilla-800000-bug-sweepstake/
1962. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Chrome has only 10 bugs!
1963. # [16:33] <jwir3> haha
1964. # [16:34] <jwir3> bull
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1966. # [16:34] <Ms2ger> I think you accidentally the last half of that word
1967. # [16:34] <@ted> hah
1968. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> (Bug 1, obviously, is "Chrome uses WebKit")
1969. # [16:35] <nigelb> The rest are all webkit bugs. right.
1970. # [16:35] <nigelb> That makes sense.
1971. # [16:35] <nigelb> One meta bug for everything that's webkit related.
1972. # [16:36] <jwir3> Bug 2 should be "MSIE still exists"
1973. # [16:36] <bharath> how can I join in mozilla student projects?
1974. # [16:37] <jwir3> bug 3: "Chrome needs more ads"
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1976. # [16:37] <jwir3> bharath: Well, one way would be to get familiar with the codebase. Have you compiled mozilla from source?
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1988. # [16:43] <kaie> glandium, do you know if anyone is working on static analysis of mozilla code? (proving that mozilla code is correct etc.)
1989. # [16:43] <kaie> (somone asked me)
1990. # [16:43] <gerv> bharath: we don't have specifically student projects. Go to the general "get involved" page.
1991. # [16:43] <gerv> http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/
1992. # [16:43] <glandium> kaie: i think jcranmer does
1993. # [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50e752beca26 - Justin Lebar - Bug 787378 - Part 2: Tests for mozbrowserfirstpaint event.
1994. # [16:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d060c3e7d65 - Justin Lebar - Bug 787378 - Part 1: Fire a "firstpaint" event in iframe mozbrowser.
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1999. # [16:45] <@ted> kaie: we've done some in the past
2000. # [16:45] <@ted> and outside comapnies have done some
2001. # [16:45] <thbet> hi, i am running fedora 17 linux x64 version
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2003. # [16:45] <Ms2ger> Proving Mozilla code correct... Proving it wrong sounds easier :)
2004. # [16:45] <kaie> ted, ok, do you have buzzwords or links?
2005. # [16:46] <thbet> on a virtual machine. but pymake is not supported. Is there any way to use pymake instead of make?
2006. # [16:46] <kaie> like what company or what they learned?
2007. # [16:46] <Ms2ger> thbet, you don't want to use pymake on non-windows platforms, in general
2008. # [16:46] <thbet> well, i tried on x86 linux and it works
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2010. # [16:47] <thbet> i am trying to reduce the build time as much as i can, as I only have 2 cores
2011. # [16:47] <kaie> glandium, thanks, I'll ping him
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2013. # [16:48] <quentin> kaie: there's Dehydra for static analysis
2014. # [16:48] <@ted> kaie: we used to use dehydra
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2016. # [16:49] <@ted> i'm not sure it works anymore
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2019. # [16:49] <@ted> but we actually at one point had a suite of analyses you could run in-tree
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2021. # [16:49] <Ms2ger> And then we ignored it
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2023. # [16:50] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/analysis/
2024. # [16:50] <glandium> ted: dehydra is dead
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2027. # [16:50] <@ted> well i think dehydra broke, as well
2028. # [16:50] <@ted> yeah
2029. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> glandium, but it had so many heads!
2030. # [16:50] <glandium> ted: it doesn't build with recent js engine
2031. # [16:52] <@ted> https://blog.mozilla.org/tglek/2011/08/03/effective-static-analysis/
2032. # [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e36d08a01ac4 - Mike Hommey - Bug 785269 - Replace a few DEPTH and relativesrcdir. r=ted,r=callek
2033. # [16:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/423c258ae638 - Mike Hommey - Bug 785265 - Explicitely use sh -c instead of letting subprocess.Popen do it. r=ted
2034. # [16:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6b20244c71b - Mike Hommey - Bug 787443 - CmdCmd.jsm and CmdCookie.jsm include Console.jsm with the wrong url. r=jwalker
2035. # [16:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c3fae3b9156 - Mike Hommey - Bug 782890 - browser.js includes SafeBrowsing.jsm and BrowserNewTabPreloader.jsm with the wrong url. r=gavin
2036. # [16:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d5efeb13af4 - Mike Hommey - Bug 784262 - Use generic install/copy rule in rules.mk. r=ted
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2042. # [16:53] <thbet> Ms2ger: just to check, can make recognise MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS variable in linux x64? Or is it that only 1 processor core is used?
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2044. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> Er, 301 ted
2045. # [16:53] <@ted> thbet: yes, that should work fine
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2048. # [16:54] <@ted> thbet: pymake is not faster than gmake on linux
2049. # [16:54] <@ted> only on windows
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2053. # [16:54] <thbet> ted: ok i see thks. Though my TB 16 Beta build took 3.5 hrs on a 2 core machine :(
2054. # [16:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aefe788f5836 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 788397 - Remove extra ';' from nsPagePrintTimer::Run r=Ms2ger
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2057. # [16:55] <@ted> thbet: how much memory does it have?
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2059. # [16:55] <@ted> that's probably your limiting factor if your build takes that long
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2066. # [16:56] <thbet> ted: I have only 4GB of RAM, but I allocate 2.5GB RAM to linux x64 as I run using virtual machine. My main OS in Win 7.
2067. # [16:57] <vlad> why run x64 linux if you only give it a small amount of ram?
2068. # [16:57] <@ted> you are almost assuredly going to swap with only 2.5GB of ram in there
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2070. # [16:57] <vlad> that too
2071. # [16:57] <thbet> vlad: cos I am building my project to make it run on linux x64 in addition to x86
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2074. # [16:58] <thbet> vlad, ted: the project depends on TB source code
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2076. # [16:59] <@ted> i don't have any great answers for you then
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2078. # [16:59] <thbet> ted: it's ok. I will just stick to running make. Though i am using laptop and my max memory is 4GB RAM
2079. # [17:00] <thbet> ted: anyway thks for advice
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2081. # [17:00] <@ted> you could try dual-booting into linux so you can use your full 4GB
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2083. # [17:00] <thbet> ted: i had tried it before by dual-booting win 7 and linux, but it overwrites the boot loader whenever there is windows update involved
2084. # [17:01] <@ted> ah, that sucks
2085. # [17:01] <thbet> ted: that's the main reason why I use oracle vm virtualbox instead
2086. # [17:01] <vlad> er, that sounds like a fixable thing
2087. # [17:01] <thbet> ted: and create a linux x64 vm
2088. # [17:01] <vlad> you need to use the NT boot loader to boot into grub/etc.
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2090. # [17:01] <@ted> i use a lot of VMs, i just don't build in them, in general
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2092. # [17:02] * vlad builds in a lot of linux VMs
2093. # [17:02] <vlad> works great, but they have 6-8GB of memory allocated to them :)
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2095. # [17:02] <thbet> vlad: wow
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2097. # [17:04] <@smaug> vlad: FYI, I'm trying to hack your refreshtimer behavior into my timer-per-top-level-window patch
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2100. # [17:04] <@ted> yeah, if you can throw memory at the problem it's a lot better
2101. # [17:04] <vlad> smaug: I was looking at that bug -- do we still need to do that?
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2103. # [17:04] <@smaug> vlad: yeah, it is not quite clear
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2105. # [17:05] <vlad> I guess it wouldn't hurt, but might be more complicated for not much gain
2106. # [17:05] <@smaug> vlad: but your approach needs quite some changes
2107. # [17:05] <vlad> especially when we tie it to vsync
2108. # [17:05] <vlad> it does?
2109. # [17:05] <@smaug> well, bg tab handling at least
2110. # [17:05] <@smaug> and would be nice to be able to run different timer for each top level window
2111. # [17:05] <vlad> sure, take a look at my latest comment in there (and please explain your sg:crit and other comments!)
2112. # [17:05] <@smaug> to reduce pauses
2113. # [17:06] <@smaug> vlad: sg:crit because you don't keep objects alive :)
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2115. # [17:06] <vlad> maybe, though again, eventually (soon) the active timerswill be tied to vsync
2116. # [17:06] <vlad> at which point they'll be running at the same time anyway
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2118. # [17:07] <vlad> I don't explicitly keep objects alive since the nsRefreshDrivers remove themselves when they're destroyed, and all this runs on the main thread
2119. # [17:07] <@smaug> I think we should keep the possibility to slow down background windows
2120. # [17:07] <@smaug> main-thread has nothing to do with this
2121. # [17:07] <vlad> sure -- just add some more logic to ChooseTimer
2122. # [17:08] <@smaug> vlad: you take a copy of the array, and nothing keeps the items in the array alive
2123. # [17:08] <@smaug> while iterating it
2124. # [17:08] <@ted> sure do hate that code pattern
2125. # [17:08] <vlad> yes, I didn't think that anything could destroy those objects during iteration.. even any user script would only cause things to be destroyed after, doesn't it?
2126. # [17:09] <@smaug> why?
2127. # [17:09] <@smaug> JS can do anything
2128. # [17:09] <@smaug> it is the common way to create sg:crits if you don't keep things alive while calling JS callbacks
2129. # [17:10] <vlad> sorry, trying to remember.. I guess I was thinking that the only one that could goa way was the current one.. but that's not necessarily true
2130. # [17:10] <vlad> so I need to find a way to call them safely... is just addref'ing enough?
2131. # [17:10] <vlad> or do I have to protect against actaully calling the callbacks if other bits have been destroyed?
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2134. # [17:11] <vlad> but -- does my suggestion for inactive tabs work for you?
2135. # [17:11] <vlad> I'd really rather not have multiple timers
2136. # [17:11] <@smaug> make the array nsTArray<nsRefPtr<nsRefreshDriver> >
2137. # [17:12] <@smaug> odd, I haven't got bugmail ..
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2139. # [17:12] <vlad> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731974#c96
2140. # [17:12] <@smaug> yeah, I see that
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2142. # [17:13] <@smaug> but no bugmail... maybe it is coming..
2143. # [17:13] <vlad> weird
2144. # [17:13] <@smaug> vlad: so "Each document has its own RefreshDriver"
2145. # [17:13] <@smaug> each top level chrome document has its own RefreshDriver, and each top level content document has its RefreshDriver
2146. # [17:14] <vlad> ok, each top-level document :)
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2149. # [17:14] <vlad> brb, meeting
2150. # [17:14] <@smaug> "However, an alternative could be to only run *one* driver per timer tick, and only double the time after all drivers have ticked once." sounds ok
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2152. # [17:14] <@smaug> hmm
2153. # [17:14] <@smaug> or maybe not
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2162. # [17:18] <glandium> do other people have refresh problems on gmail with a background image on aurora linux ?
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2166. # [17:20] <@smaug> I've seen some refresh problems on the startup page
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2168. # [17:20] <@smaug> khuey|away: see glandium's question
2169. # [17:21] <@smaug> glandium: please file a bug and CC khuey
2170. # [17:21] <glandium> smaug: core::gfx?
2171. # [17:21] <glob> smaug, did your missing bugmail show up?
2172. # [17:22] <@smaug> I'd guess layout:style
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2174. # [17:22] <@smaug> glob: looks like so
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2176. # [17:22] <glob> smaug, ah, good :)
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2178. # [17:22] <glandium> smaug: layout: view rendering, maybe
2179. # [17:23] <@smaug> glandium: I doubt that. Perhaps it is Style: something
2180. # [17:23] <Ms2ger> Style System (CSS)?
2181. # [17:24] <glandium> smaug: in fact, my bug looks very much like 776247
2182. # [17:24] <evilpie> does somebody happen to have a script that opens the alexa top 500 sites in a row?
2183. # [17:24] <@smaug> oh, then it wouldn't be a regression from khuey's patches
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2201. # [17:37] <jlebar> evilpie, http://gregor-wagner.com/tmp/mem
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2206. # [17:41] <KaiRo> gah, wtf? people calling me on my personal number (good, I have none other) and wanting a phone contact of "the person in charge of the Firefox and SeaMonkey GUI" because one or two years ago "we screwed up something"
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2220. # [17:48] <Wes> KaiRo: Tell them to consult their service level agreement
2221. # [17:48] <Wes> and to use SLA-approved contact channels
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2227. # [17:49] <vlad> smaug: well, if you have 60 tabs open and they all have something that's triggering off refresh...
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2229. # [17:49] <vlad> and they're all in the background.. I dunno. a minute delay between ticks is long, but it would get to that delay quickly enough anyway (1 2 4 8 16 32 64)
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2231. # [17:50] <@smaug> sure
2232. # [17:50] <vlad> and it'll probably be the right thing for performance, since it means your background tabs will have a very minimal impact while still not being utterly starved
2233. # [17:50] <vlad> regardless of the number of tabs
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2236. # [17:51] <@smaug> we could perhaps try your approach
2237. # [17:51] <@smaug> and tweak it if needed
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2239. # [17:51] <Ms2ger> smaug, do you still have MDN login issues?
2240. # [17:52] <@smaug> haven't tried
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2247. # [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6dfafdd2f631 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 787743 - Set the cached private browsing flag on HttpBaseChannel::SetLoadGroup as well; r=jdm
2248. # [17:53] <@smaug> can't login
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2250. # [17:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8225a33d7145 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 787275 - Location bar tooltip shows shortened URL when full location bar address is not visible. r=Unfocused
2251. # [17:54] <Ms2ger> smaug, apparently they can fix it if they know your email adress
2252. # [17:54] <Ms2ger> address, even
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2254. # [17:55] <@smaug> and I haven't ever given my email address to MDN, I think :)
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2256. # [17:55] <@bz> There is a case to be made for completely shutting off background tab refresh drivers
2257. # [17:55] * @bz has even tried to make it
2258. # [17:55] <Ms2ger> smaug, that might be it ;)
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2261. # [17:57] <KaiRo> Wes: nah, he didn't want customer support, he just wanted to tell someone responsible that we messed up his pet thing so we don't lose masses of customers
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2265. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> smaug, meet openjck
2266. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> He does MDN magic
2267. # [17:58] <openjck> :-)
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2271. # [18:00] <@smaug> openjck: hi
2272. # [18:00] <@smaug> openjck: I haven't managed to log in to my mdn account since the update
2273. # [18:00] <@smaug> there is a bug open
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2275. # [18:01] <jlebar> So...I'm trying to track down what's probably a trivial nsTArray leak.
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2277. # [18:01] <@bz> hrm
2278. # [18:01] <jlebar> Valgrind isn't telling me anything useful.
2279. # [18:01] <jlebar> I wonder what's the right tool to use for this.
2280. # [18:01] <@bz> still no per-section edits on MDN....
2281. # [18:01] <@bz> jlebar: our built-in ctor/dtor logging?
2282. # [18:01] <jlebar> bz, Use mediawiki, put a link on MDN. I'm convinced that only a policy of nonviolent disobedience will get the powers that be to notice our grievances.
2283. # [18:02] <jlebar> bz, Log a stack of every nsTArray that's created / destroyed?
2284. # [18:02] <@bz> jlebar: well, apparently the per-section thing got disabled because it was kinda broken and misbehaving
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2286. # [18:02] <@bz> jlebar: or of a sequence number range, if your leaking sequence number is stable enough?
2287. # [18:02] <jlebar> mm
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2293. # [18:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d0c323f748f - Abhishek Potnis<abhishekp.bugzilla@gmail.com> - Bug 777925 : Removes HTML editor logging support; r=ehsan
2294. # [18:04] <@bz> bah
2295. # [18:04] <@bz> can I seriously not edit a link without going into source view on mdn?
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2305. # [18:05] <@smaug> Ms2ger: openjck: thanks
2306. # [18:06] <NeilAway> ted: I can confirm that 2008 express still build, I hear that 2005 pro works but I don't have it
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2308. # [18:07] <@ted> i have it here but i haven't done a build in a while
2309. # [18:08] <jlebar> bz, "Assertion failure: gCriticalAddress.mInit, at ../../../src/xpcom/base/nsStackWalk.cpp:1191" :(
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2314. # [18:08] <Ms2ger> smaug, np
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2317. # [18:09] <@bz> jlebar: <sigh>
2318. # [18:09] <jlebar> bz, I'll just make valgrind dump the stack.
2319. # [18:09] <@smaug> now I need to remember what I was going to edit about a month ago :)
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2326. # [18:11] <Waldo> one of these days I will visit the SF office on a day where I can't steal fantasai's desk, but it hasn't happened yet :-)
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2336. # [18:15] <mccr8> So, what component would be the right one if sometimes when I right click on something, the context menu starts drifting across the screen?
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2342. # [18:16] <Ms2ger> mccr8, Firefox::Magic?
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2344. # [18:16] <jcranmer> quentin: we've discontinued dehydra
2345. # [18:17] <jcranmer> it's pretty much officially dead, although some other projects tried to use it
2346. # [18:17] <jcranmer> the in-tree static analysis is a mixture of broken and wrong
2347. # [18:17] <mccr8> jcranmer: somebody should put a note about that on the Dehydra page. ;) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Dehydra
2348. # [18:17] <@smaug> mccr8: Apple: Hardware
2349. # [18:17] <mccr8> smaug: I see...
2350. # [18:18] <jcranmer> one main issue is that SpiderMonkey changes their API so quickly that it's difficult to keep up
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2366. # [18:23] <philor> mccr8: duplicates of: 788189
2367. # [18:24] <mccr8> philor: oh, great, thanks!
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2369. # [18:24] <mccr8> I filed mine 6 hours later.
2370. # [18:24] <@smaug> bizarre
2371. # [18:25] <mccr8> yeah, it is like some kind of absurd comedy, where you go to right click and the menu starts running away from you!
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2373. # [18:26] <philor> you're really going to hate it when the patch to play U Can't Touch This while it happens lands
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2377. # [18:27] <mbrubeck> !seen lorchard
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2380. # [18:28] <firebot> I've never seen a 'lorchard|vets_and_lunch', sorry.
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2382. # [18:28] <mbrubeck> err, meant to change that to a /whois
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2387. # [18:30] <jlebar> bz, http://pastie.org/4668998 this means I'm leaking nsTArray_base with id 725, right?
2388. # [18:30] <jlebar> bz, So...I shouldn't have a destructor for that ID?
2389. # [18:30] <jlebar> 'cause I do.
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2396. # [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc77641d45f8 - Brad Lassey - bug 770289 - JNIEnv->NewString can throw and needs to be caught before another JNI call, handle NewStringUTF r=kats
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2399. # [18:33] <@bz> jlebar: no, I think that's 725 total arrays allocated
2400. # [18:34] <jlebar> Oh.
2401. # [18:34] <jlebar> Interesting.
2402. # [18:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84fe2b3c5ed9 - Chris Jones - Bug 783066: Paint the backgrounds of remote subdocuments like we paint those of same-process subdocuments. r=roc
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2404. # [18:34] <jlebar> bz, thanks.
2405. # [18:34] <@bz> jlebar: if you do XPCOM_MEM_LOG_CLASSES=nsTArray_base that should give you the list of the ones that leaked, I thought
2406. # [18:34] * @bz is not sure whether it does for ctor/dtor logging
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2409. # [18:35] <jlebar> bz, If I do that, it gives me a list of ~200 arrays, when it claims that only 2 are leaking.
2410. # [18:35] <@bz> huh
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2412. # [18:35] <@khuey> yeah
2413. # [18:35] * @bz sighs
2414. # [18:35] <@khuey> we should check in my patch to fix that
2415. # [18:36] <jlebar> khuey, I am so sick of this...can you pastebin me your patch?
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2417. # [18:36] <lsblakk> joshmoz: ping
2418. # [18:37] <joshmoz> lsblakk: pong
2419. # [18:37] <@khuey> jlebar: khuey.pastebin.mozilla.org/1805725
2420. # [18:37] <jlebar> khuey, thanks.
2421. # [18:37] <@khuey> jlebar: I haven't tested it too much, but it appears to work
2422. # [18:37] <lsblakk> joshmoz: would you be able to land bsmedberg's patch in bug 700583 to mozilla-release as a 15.0.1 ride-along?
2423. # [18:37] <@khuey> jlebar: it works by MOZ_COUNT_CTOR/DTORing the TArray buffer
2424. # [18:38] <jlebar> Oh goodness, I have to recompile the world?
2425. # [18:38] <lsblakk> joshmoz: we're looking to go to build on that within the hour
2426. # [18:38] <@khuey> jlebar: but if you're leaking a TArray that has sEmptyBuffer, you're screwed
2427. # [18:38] <@khuey> jlebar: yeah :-(
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2429. # [18:38] <jlebar> khuey, And I think I'm leaking an empty TArray.
2430. # [18:38] <@khuey> jlebar: the problem with MOZ_COUNT_CTOR/DTOR for nsTArray_base is that we memmove TArrays :-(
2431. # [18:38] <jlebar> Ah.
2432. # [18:38] <@khuey> jlebar: mmm, I'd just use valgrind
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2434. # [18:39] <jlebar> khuey, I tried, and it said, 800 things leaked, run me again if you want to see all of them.
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2441. # [18:39] <jlebar> I should just try that.
2442. # [18:39] <@khuey> yeah
2443. # [18:39] <@khuey> just get the full thing, and then look for stacks that go through mozalloc
2444. # [18:39] <Waldo> khuey: why can't we just dtor then ctor when we memmove?
2445. # [18:39] <@khuey> there won't be many of them
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2447. # [18:39] <@khuey> Waldo: because nsTArray doesn't know when it's memmoved?
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2453. # [18:40] <Waldo> khuey: oh, this isn't a memmove internal to nsTArray, then
2454. # [18:40] <@khuey> right
2455. # [18:40] <joshmoz> lsblakk: looking
2456. # [18:40] <@khuey> somebody is memmoving a struct or something with an nsTArray member
2457. # [18:40] <jlebar> Not just "somebody", but lots of people.
2458. # [18:40] <@khuey> right
2459. # [18:41] <joshmoz> lsblakk: yeah, I can do it. Is Benajamin not around?
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2461. # [18:41] <shu> is there such a thing as try for aurora? or rather -- i'm getting windows build errors i don't understand that had nothing to do with my patch when i pushed some aurora patches i wanted to land to try
2462. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> shu, that's expected
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2464. # [18:42] <shu> Ms2ger: ah okay, thanks
2465. # [18:42] <@khuey> shu: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/iupEOWZjHNc/QoRHfJUQtukJ
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2467. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> Though there may be a patch somewhere that gives you useful windows/android/b2g results
2468. # [18:43] <joshmoz> lsblakk: cloning m-r now, will land as soon as I see approval-mozilla-release+ on the bug
2469. # [18:43] <shu> khuey: cool, thanks
2470. # [18:43] <lsblakk> joshmoz: great, thanks
2471. # [18:43] <joshmoz> lsblakk: you might also want to approve for beta at the same time
2472. # [18:44] <lsblakk> joshmoz: indeed, will do
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2476. # [18:48] <jlebar> khuey, Can you help me understand whether my leak is in this valgrind output? 'cause I'm not seeing it. http://people.mozilla.org/~jlebar/out.gz
2477. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> joshmoz: the pr_lib crash? That should already be on beta
2478. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> It landed when ff16 was in aurora
2479. # [18:48] <joshmoz> bsmedberg: I saw approval-beta-minus on the bug, thought it wasn't
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2481. # [18:49] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that was beta-15
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2485. # [18:50] <@khuey> jlebar: I don't see anything interesting in there
2486. # [18:50] <jlebar> khuey, :(
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2502. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> File a bug
2503. # [18:56] <glob> bz, file a bug
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2507. # [18:58] <joshmoz> lsblakk: building quickly as a sanity check against breaking the tree
2508. # [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/056a16f19be2 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 756577 - Return an error if unable to load a page during navigate(); r=mdas, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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2516. # [19:01] <@bz> glob, Ms2ger: heh
2517. # [19:01] <Siddu> which part of the code should I start from?
2518. # [19:01] <@bz> glob, Ms2ger: I need to decide how serious I am about it first.....
2519. # [19:01] <Ms2ger> bz, this ain't #devmo ;)
2520. # [19:01] <Siddu> I built aurora and I'd like to contribute :)
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2522. # [19:02] <@bz> glob, Ms2ger: I just keep putting it in the wrong field
2523. # [19:02] <@bz> Siddu: excellent.
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2525. # [19:02] <@bz> Siddu: Which part depends on what you're interested in!
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2527. # [19:02] <Siddu> hmm... I've messed about with openGL
2528. # [19:03] <Siddu> so.. graphics?
2529. # [19:03] <Siddu> also, which is the main header file?
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2531. # [19:03] <Siddu> I'm unable to find it >.>;
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2533. # [19:03] <jcranmer> bz: TB uses it as a whiteboard phrase
2534. # [19:03] <@bz> Siddu: There isn't a "main" header file
2535. # [19:03] <@bz> jcranmer: yeah, gecko too
2536. # [19:03] <Siddu> okay so where's the entry point?
2537. # [19:03] <@bz> Siddu: you mean like main()?
2538. # [19:03] <Siddu> yep
2539. # [19:03] * @bz tries to recall
2540. # [19:03] <jcranmer> I actually set up a dupme/dupeme query to get around naming issues :-P
2541. # [19:03] <Siddu> aw, I realized what I typed >.>
2542. # [19:04] <@bz> it's usually not all that relevant where main() is, fwiw
2543. # [19:04] <Siddu> yep, I did mean main()
2544. # [19:04] <Siddu> I'd like to look at the code in a top down sort of way
2545. # [19:04] <Siddu> just to get my bearings :)
2546. # [19:04] <@bz> heh
2547. # [19:04] <samuelgiles> Hello, are properties like 'MozAppearance' defined in the prototype chain of CSSStyleDeclaration or in the Declaration object itself?
2548. # [19:04] <@bz> samuelgiles: proto chain
2549. # [19:04] <@bz> Siddu: ok, so...
2550. # [19:04] <samuelgiles> bz: thanks
2551. # [19:04] <jcranmer> Siddu: I think main itself is in browser/build/nsBrowserApp.cpp or something like that
2552. # [19:05] <@bz> Siddu: for a "top-down" look it might be more interesting to look at things that implement Run()
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2554. # [19:05] <Siddu> buildSrc/btrowser right?
2555. # [19:05] <jcranmer> Siddu: the real main is a function called XRE_main IIRC
2556. # [19:05] <@bz> Siddu: since those are what would get called from the event loop
2557. # [19:05] <Siddu> ah, okay
2558. # [19:05] <Siddu> that's interesting :)
2559. # [19:05] <@bz> Siddu: main() is in browser/app/nsBrowserApp.cpp
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2563. # [19:05] <Siddu> thanks
2564. # [19:05] <@bz> Siddu: but I suspect it's singularly unenlightening
2565. # [19:05] <jcranmer> but, as bz implies, the main/XRE_main stuff is mostly basic process startup + launch the event loop
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2567. # [19:06] <Siddu> ah, okay
2568. # [19:06] <@bz> Siddu: possibly of more interest are lists of bugs that are flagged as being good places to start
2569. # [19:06] <jcranmer> the only reason to actually look at that stuff is if you actually need to know about what happens in startup/shutdown
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2571. # [19:06] <Siddu> ah, okay
2572. # [19:06] <Siddu> "XRE_main IIRC" which folder is it in?
2573. # [19:06] <sawrubh> does anyone know the irc nick of Matthew MacPherson ?
2574. # [19:06] <jcranmer> I can never remember
2575. # [19:06] <@bz> Siddu: XRE_main is in the same file as main()
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2577. # [19:07] <@bz> Siddu: see the three links under "get them a first bug they'd be interested in" at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mentors#Respond_to_contribution_inquiries
2578. # [19:07] <Siddu> okay :)
2579. # [19:07] <@bz> Siddu: you can probably edit the queries (there's an "Edit" link near the bottom of the query page) to restrict to the Core product and Graphics component if you want
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2582. # [19:08] <@bz> Actually...
2583. # [19:08] <@bz> http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ might be a better UI for this
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2587. # [19:08] <Siddu> ah, thanks
2588. # [19:08] <@bz> And of course, feel free to ask questions here as needed. ;)
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2593. # [19:09] <jcranmer> Firefox is too big to look at top-down
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2595. # [19:11] <Siddu> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712939
2596. # [19:11] <Siddu> this bug seems doable
2597. # [19:11] <@bz> jcranmer: yes, that too
2598. # [19:11] <@bz> Siddu: go for it, yes
2599. # [19:11] <Siddu> what should I do? should I first contact the person who reported the bug?
2600. # [19:11] <Siddu> or is there some kind of process?
2601. # [19:12] <@bz> Siddu: given that it's assigned to someone, I'd maybe mail the assignee
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2603. # [19:12] <@bz> Siddu: just to make sure they're not actively working on it
2604. # [19:12] <Siddu> ah, okay
2605. # [19:12] <@bz> (though 6 months of radio silence suggests they are not)
2606. # [19:12] <@bz> Past that, just write a patch and request review.
2607. # [19:12] <sfink> "just"
2608. # [19:13] <Siddu> how do I get their email ID's?
2609. # [19:13] <@bz> In this case, you can request review from the reporter, who happens to be qualified to review patches to that code
2610. # [19:13] <Siddu> all I see is a username
2611. # [19:13] <@bz> Siddu: Right-click
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2613. # [19:13] <@bz> Siddu: it's a mailto: link
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2615. # [19:13] <Siddu> >.<; OMG I'm stupid
2616. # [19:15] <sawrubh> firebot: seen tofumatt
2617. # [19:15] <firebot> tofumatt was last seen 3 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, 9 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying 'All you have to do is fly to Japan!' in #sumodev.
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2623. # [19:18] <quentin> jcranmer: maybe te Dehydra webpage should mention that it's discontinued
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2625. # [19:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57a0543b7f12 - Myk Melez - bug 785545 - unrefactor mozApps tests for maximum readability/reliability; r=fabrice
2626. # [19:20] <Siddu> also, how I test if my changes compile?
2627. # [19:20] <Siddu> firefox isn't exactly easy to build
2628. # [19:20] <Siddu> it takes 10 minutes +
2629. # [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50a32baf586e - Chris Jones - Bug 788396: Centralize usage of ipc::LoggingEnabled() and ensure it goes to logcat on bionic OSes. r=bent
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2631. # [19:20] <KWierso|Home> push to tryserver, then you only have to wait 5+ hours...
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2633. # [19:22] <Siddu> so there's no way to test?
2634. # [19:22] <Siddu> that's... different
2635. # [19:22] <KWierso|Home> http://xkcd.com/303/
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2637. # [19:22] <Siddu> I think I can guess that one: we're compiling :)
2638. # [19:22] <Siddu> yep ;)
2639. # [19:23] <Siddu> but seriously, there's no other way? that sucks
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2645. # [19:24] <@bz> Siddu: well, the only way to test if it compiles is to compile
2646. # [19:24] <@bz> Siddu: either on your machine or elsewhere
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2648. # [19:24] <@bz> Siddu: and btw... 10 mins is _very_ fast for compiling this much code....
2649. # [19:24] <@bz> Siddu: that said, if the changes you made are limited in scope
2650. # [19:24] <@bz> Siddu: you may be able to just compile in the relevant directory
2651. # [19:25] <@bz> Siddu: e.g. if you only change js/src, then "make -C $objdir/js/src"
2652. # [19:25] <Siddu> ah, okay
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2661. # [19:28] <humph> there's a js implementation of smpte time code stuff somewhere in the tree, but I can't find it
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2663. # [19:28] <humph> anyone know where it is?
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2682. # [19:39] <@smaug> vlad: so I'll let you to fix refreshdriver
2683. # [19:40] <@smaug> I could review the patch (though bz should certainly review it too)
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2701. # [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d5589b88c8b - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 778044. Add a way to pref off Paris binding constructor objects. r=peterv
2702. # [19:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d10e508e4890 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 788181. Fix instanceof for XHR and XHR.upload in workers. r=peterv
2703. # [19:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73642fc72b2e - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 788149. Don't use jsids in worker code in bindings, because those are runtime-specific and workers can run on multiple runtimes. r=peterv
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2717. # [19:51] <lahabana> :khuey ok I get it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250946/They-havent-got-queue-Government-teach-immigrants-British-art-lining-up.html ;)
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2726. # [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b8cc5e2e8ed5 - Robert Longson - Back out 92f2cf2f42b2 (bug 754592) for causing bug 786895. a=akeybl
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2750. # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eb201b1e55fd - Olli Pettay - Bug 787961 - Remove mDocument from WorkerPrivate, r=bent
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2754. # [20:09] <@ted> heh
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2757. # [20:10] <@ted> i just realized that our mac builds, running on 10.7, still run "make check" int he i386 half of the objdir
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2761. # [20:10] <@ted> in dir /builds/slave/a-osx64/build/obj-firefox/i386 (timeout 300 secs)
2762. # [20:10] <@ted> watching logfiles {}
2763. # [20:10] <@ted> argv: ['make', '-k', 'check']
2764. # [20:10] <Optimizer> gerv: There is still time for sending the date for bug 800000 right ?
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2793. # [20:21] <kk1fff> jduell_: ping
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2802. # [20:28] <Optimizer> gerv: the time format is yyyy-mm-dd or yyyy-dd-mm ?
2803. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, the former, of course!
2804. # [20:28] <Optimizer> (for the bug 800000 sweepstake)
2805. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> There is no such thing as the latter
2806. # [20:28] <Optimizer> it is sometimes confusing
2807. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> Also, he's British
2808. # [20:28] <Optimizer> oh then its okay
2809. # [20:29] <Optimizer> otherwise US people user mm-dd-yyyy that is confusing
2810. # [20:29] <Optimizer> use*
2811. # [20:29] <Optimizer> did anyone else bet on some date ?
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2814. # [20:30] <kk1fff> jduell_: I am going to ask a question about 786419, I'll post it on comment of that bug. :)
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2816. # [20:32] <JonathanS> Optimizer, US also use imperial kind of unit that is enough to drive you crazy
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2828. # [20:38] <jdm> sfink: I think your changes to bzexport ended up breaking obsoleting old patches
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2830. # [20:38] <jdm> at least, the obsoleting happens, but I always get erros in the console
2831. # [20:38] <sfink> jdm: crap
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2833. # [20:38] <sfink> what errors?
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2835. # [20:38] <jdm> Error: Unknown Bugzilla error. Title: 'Match Failed'
2836. # [20:38] <jdm> abort: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request
2837. # [20:39] <sfink> jdm: I was getting 400s yesterday and had to re-login to make them go away
2838. # [20:39] <jdm> interesting
2839. # [20:39] <sfink> jdm: bugzilla was behaving weirdly through the regular web access, too -- sometimes it said I was logged in, sometimes not
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2843. # [20:41] <sfink> but let me know if that's not the problem
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2846. # [20:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bcc2d5b5b351 - andrew.quartey@gmail.com - Bug 701299 - crash nsGlobalWindow::LeaveModalState, r=smaug,khuey
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2860. # [20:46] <@ted> sfink/jdm: i saw similar behavior recently
2861. # [20:46] <@ted> logout/login in the browser fixed it
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2863. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/647fabcaa951 - Chris Peterson - Bug 769894 - Part 1: Create PromptService's AlertDialog on the UI thread. r=mfinkle
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2882. # [20:51] <mdas> so I just did a fresh clone of m-c, and when I build, I get this error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1805933. Mainly: make[5]: *** [jstypedarray.o] Error 1, make[4]: *** [libs_tier_js] Error 2, make[3]: *** [tier_js] Error 2, make[2]: *** [default] Error 2, make[1]: *** [realbuild] Error 2
2883. # [20:51] <mdas> any ideas where this is coming from?
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2885. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> mdas, yes
2886. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> mdas, use clang
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2891. # [20:53] <mdas> Ms2ger: I'll give it a shot
2892. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> You'll have to, we don't do gcc 4.2 anymore
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2900. # [20:54] <mdas> Ms2ger: a
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2902. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> b
2903. # [20:54] <mdas> ergh, I mean, ah okay thanks
2904. # [20:54] <mdas> lol
2905. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> Np
2906. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> So, who was going to make that fail early? ted?
2907. # [20:54] <@ted> no
2908. # [20:54] <@ted> but there's a bug
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2910. # [20:54] <@ted> actually wait
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2912. # [20:55] <@ted> there's a bug on not picking gcc-4.2 explicitly
2913. # [20:55] <@ted> but i don't think there's a bug on "fail early with outdated compilers"
2914. # [20:55] <@ted> but we should get one
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2917. # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8279af77dc28 - Mike Hommey - Bug 787180 - Switch between FINAL_TARGET and DIST/bin in various places under browser/. r=khuey
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2921. # [20:56] <NeilAway> jlebar|lunch: if you suspect someone is memmoving an nsTArray, can't you have a debug-only member that points to itself and verify its value from time to time?
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2924. # [20:56] <jlebar> NeilAway, Yes. I just don't think anyone has become desperate enough to implement that.
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2926. # [20:57] <jlebar> NeilAway, I just found my bug by bisecting the patch; it was a static TArray hidden from grep via a typedef.
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2931. # [20:58] <@smaug> bdahl: could you look at Bug 788639
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2933. # [20:58] <@smaug> it seems to be a null pointer crash
2934. # [20:58] <bdahl> smaug: looking right now
2935. # [20:58] <bdahl> smaug: thinking i need a nullptr check in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/generic/nsSimplePageSequence.cpp#526
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2937. # [20:59] <@smaug> bdahl: you have null check there
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2939. # [20:59] <bdahl> not for root
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2941. # [21:00] <@smaug> ah, right
2942. # [21:00] <bdahl> looks like GetSubdocumentRootFrame can return null
2943. # [21:01] * Ms2ger just found /security/nss/tests/pkcs11/netscape/
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2945. # [21:01] <NeilAway> jlebar: eww, static :s
2946. # [21:01] <jlebar> NeilAway, I reviewed it, too. :(
2947. # [21:01] <@smaug> bdahl: in general Get* methods may return null
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2950. # [21:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c3b8440c478 - Neil Deakin - Bug 784142, assertion and crash calling alert while closing a window, check in again without the test, r=smaug
2951. # [21:03] <NeilAway> jlebar: yeah, that sucks, I know
2952. # [21:03] <bdahl> smaug: any preference if i check down there by the root or I could check at the beginning of GetPrintCanvasElementsInFrame if aFrame is null?
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2954. # [21:04] <@smaug> bdahl: I guess adding null check to the beginning of GetPrintCanvasElementsInFrame is safest possible
2955. # [21:04] <gustavold1> hi terrence
2956. # [21:04] <jlebar> kk1fff, are you still around?
2957. # [21:05] <gustavold1> terrence: I'm trying to use 64K ArenaSize as we discussed some time ago
2958. # [21:05] <kk1fff> jlebar: hi
2959. # [21:05] <jlebar> kk1fff, Hey! I'm about to post a review, so if you can turn around the two minor changes, I can push for you today.
2960. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/db28559df995 - Chris Peterson - Bug 769894 - Part 1: Create PromptService's AlertDialog on the UI thread. r=mfinkle a=akeybl
2961. # [21:06] <gustavold1> terrence: this is how I did it http://fpaste.org/X26t/
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2964. # [21:07] <kk1fff> jlebar: okey
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2966. # [21:08] <gustavold1> but then I get this build error: xulrunner-15.0/mozilla-release/js/src/gc/Heap.h:190:9: error: size of array 'moz_static_assert36' is negative
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2968. # [21:09] <@ted> gustavold1: that means you're failing whatever static assertion is on that line
2969. # [21:09] <gustavold1> ted: yeah, trying to find a hg link to that file
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2974. # [21:11] <@ted> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/file/faa9affedb6c/js/src/gc/Heap.h ?
2975. # [21:11] <gustavold1> that is the assertion http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/file/2099c2bea208/js/src/gc/Heap.h#l188
2976. # [21:11] <gustavold1> ted: ;)
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2978. # [21:11] <gustavold1> terrence: ^
2979. # [21:12] <gustavold1> I'm not sure how feasible it is to extend the arena header
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2982. # [21:12] <gustavold1> or even if it is really needed
2983. # [21:14] <vlad> smaug: sure; working on it now
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2985. # [21:16] <@smaug> vlad: hey, one thing which wasn't immediately clear to me from the patch. what ends up stopping the timer if there isn't anything to process
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2988. # [21:17] <vlad> smaug: in RemoveRefreshDriver, if the count drops to 0 we stop the timer
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2990. # [21:18] <@smaug> vlad: ah, and nsRefreshDriver::Tick ends up calling StopTimer which calls that... k
2991. # [21:19] <terrence> gustavold1: hey, I'm back, taking a look now
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2993. # [21:20] <terrence> gustavold1: right, I forgot that was uint16, gross :-(
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2996. # [21:20] <terrence> gustavold1: the underlying problem was the decommit logic, right?
2997. # [21:21] <gustavold1> yes
2998. # [21:21] <vlad> smaug: yeah, nsRefreshDriver calls its own StopTimer if nothing is waiting, which then removes it from the list, which eventually ends up cancelling any in-flight nsITimer
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3000. # [21:21] <terrence> gustavold1: I think if you have 64K pages, you will probably get better memory management if you just disable the decommit logic...
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3002. # [21:21] <gustavold1> that is what I was suspecting...
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3004. # [21:22] <gustavold1> terrence: any idea when the arena logic will decoupled from the underlying page size?
3005. # [21:22] <gustavold1> if that will ever happen
3006. # [21:22] <terrence> gustavold1: the only place is with the decommit logic... let me go find that line
3007. # [21:23] <gustavold1> terrence: no need I have it
3008. # [21:23] <gustavold1> terrence: http://fpaste.org/X26t/
3009. # [21:23] <terrence> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/file/2099c2bea208/js/src/jsgc.cpp#l2551
3010. # [21:23] <gustavold1> oops
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3012. # [21:23] <bdahl> smaug: do i need to push 788639 to try?
3013. # [21:24] <gustavold1> terrence: http://fpaste.org/3gOz/
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3015. # [21:24] <terrence> gustavold1: it should be that line... if you replace it with "ok = true;" you should be good to go
3016. # [21:24] <@smaug> bdahl: no
3017. # [21:24] <@smaug> bdahl: do you have commit access to m-c ?
3018. # [21:24] <terrence> gustavold1: that will work as well, probably even better
3019. # [21:24] <bdahl> nope
3020. # [21:24] <@smaug> ok, I'll push it
3021. # [21:24] <@smaug> now
3022. # [21:24] <bdahl> thx
3023. # [21:25] <gustavold1> terrence: any chance we get it committed upstream?
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3026. # [21:25] <gustavold1> it is just annoying to keep this one because memory management code changes quite fast
3027. # [21:26] <terrence> gustavold1: I agree... let me post something to the bug and I'll try to get it into beta for you
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3029. # [21:26] <gustavold1> terrence: thank you!
3030. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40dd5296396e - Steve Fink - Bug 738612 - Add mozconfig "override" files to be included after everything else, for overriding previously set options. r=ted
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3032. # [21:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d85b2d9447f - Steve Fink - Bug 738612 - Include common mozconfigs so (eg) try pushes can modify them easily. r=ted
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3038. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> ifeq ($(topsrcdir),$(OBJDIR))
3039. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> Wait, what?
3040. # [21:30] * mjschranz_away is now known as mjschranz
3041. # [21:30] <@ted> building in the srcdir
3042. # [21:30] <@ted> the only reason we haven't unsupported that is so that people can build from our source tarballs with "configure && make"
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3045. # [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1948141f2eb0 - bdahl@mozilla.com - Bug 788639 - crash in GetPrintCanvasElementsInFrame @ mozilla::layout::FrameChildListIterator::FrameChildListIterator, r=smaug
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3047. # [21:33] <@smaug> Scoobidiver doesn't work for mozilla, right?
3048. # [21:33] <mdas> Ms2ger: so even with clang it still uses gcc
3049. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> smaug, pretty sure not
3050. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> mdas, you need something something in your mozconfig
3051. # [21:34] <mdas> hah
3052. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> http://ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2011-10-18/why-you-should-switch-clang-today-and-how
3053. # [21:34] <gustavold1> terrence: a different topic.. on fedora we have a weird comment on the spec file for firefox, xulrunner and thunderbird:
3054. # [21:34] <gustavold1> # On x86 architectures, Mozilla can build up to 4 jobs at once in parallel,
3055. # [21:34] <gustavold1> # however builds tend to fail on other arches when building in parallel.
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3057. # [21:35] <gustavold1> terrence: do you know any reason for that?
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3060. # [21:35] <@smaug> Ms2ger: ehsan forgot to mention about gdb problems
3061. # [21:35] <gustavold1> I've been building it with -j32 for example
3062. # [21:35] <@smaug> though, I should re-try
3063. # [21:35] <mdas> Ms2ger: yeah I have that in there too
3064. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> smaug, pff, osx
3065. # [21:35] <@ehsan> smaug: what gdb problems?
3066. # [21:36] <mdas> my mozconfig has 'export CC=...' and the same for CXX, and both paths are valid. blarg
3067. # [21:36] <@smaug> the gdb-crashes-when-debugging-code-compiled-by-clang
3068. # [21:36] <gaston> ted: i think since the idl parser cachedir issue building from the source tarball without a separate objdir doesnt work
3069. # [21:36] <@smaug> but I should update clang and re-try
3070. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> mdas, poke ted, then :)
3071. # [21:36] <@ehsan> smaug: get xcode 4.4
3072. # [21:37] <kk1fff> jlebar: I will submit the update patch later, the source code are all in my office pc.
3073. # [21:37] <mdas> Ms2ger: oh. I had to blow away my old objdir
3074. # [21:37] <@ehsan> smaug: I bet you're seeing the rvalue reference bug
3075. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> mdas, oh, yes
3076. # [21:37] <mdas> which is weird because i did a make clean
3077. # [21:37] <mdas> hm.
3078. # [21:37] <mdas> or i thought i did
3079. # [21:37] <jlebar> kk1fff, Okay. If you're really itching to get it done, I think you could modify the patch files, but I'm totally fine waiting if you are. :)
3080. # [21:37] <@smaug> ehsan: linux
3081. # [21:37] <@smaug> I sure hope I don't have xcode
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3083. # [21:38] <@ehsan> oh
3084. # [21:38] <@ehsan> how recent is your gdb?
3085. # [21:38] <@ehsan> and clang for that matter?
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3087. # [21:38] <@smaug> well, I don't have clang atm
3088. # [21:38] <@smaug> since I spent enough time with it
3089. # [21:38] <@ehsan> ok then I'm confused on what the problem is!
3090. # [21:38] <@smaug> as I said, I should re-try
3091. # [21:38] <@ehsan> ok
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3095. # [21:40] <@smaug> someone actively blogging might want to mention that gold is faster and uses *a lot* less memory than the old ld
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3099. # [21:42] * @bz tried gold at one point
3100. # [21:42] <@bz> success was variable
3101. # [21:42] <@bz> I should try again
3102. # [21:42] <jlebar> bz, It even seems to work with valgrind these days.
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3108. # [21:46] <terrence> gustavold1: I haven't run into any issues like that... ask on #build... they would know there
3109. # [21:47] <gustavold1> k
3110. # [21:47] <derf> I looked at installing gold, but it required a new binutils, and new binutils required a new glibc, and I Just Say No to upgrading glibc on a system I need to actually work.
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3115. # [21:53] <froydnj> new binutils required a new glibc? bad package dependencies?
3116. # [21:53] * froydnj can't imagine any good reason for that
3117. # [21:54] * @bz has updated glibc in the past to be able to build Firefox
3118. # [21:54] <@bz> was a pain
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3120. # [21:54] * froydnj hosed his main development machine today by upgrading glibc
3121. # [21:55] <froydnj> never using toy distros ever again
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3125. # [21:56] <vlad> smaug: {} only for non-trivial statements (e.g. not return/continue) afaik!
3126. # [21:57] <vlad> and the { on next line seems to not be how any of this file was written
3127. # [21:57] <vlad> (and is pretty damn ugly for inline methods in classes)
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3129. # [21:57] <@bz> vlad: in DOM and layout code, all bodies are braced
3130. # [21:58] <@bz> vlad: too many experiences with bugs with the other approach in the past. :(
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3132. # [21:58] <vlad> same thing with multi-line if -- the { gets lost if it's at the end, because the indentation lines up the first statement with the last condition
3133. # [21:58] <vlad> bz: even for trivial things? that's unfortunate, lots of wasted vertical space
3134. # [21:59] <vlad> most of it is just annoying style differences (like forced { on new line even for inline methods), but I kinda refuse to put the { at the end of the last line of a a multi-line if clause
3135. # [21:59] <froydnj> vlad: we could adopt the gnu bracing style if you like :)
3136. # [21:59] <@smaug> vlad: {} always
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3138. # [21:59] <vlad> because it is 100% harder to read
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3141. # [22:00] * vlad goes and butchers some code
3142. # [22:00] * juanb|lunch is now known as juanb
3143. # [22:00] <@smaug> using {} always is 900% easier to read :)
3144. # [22:00] * @bz can buy the multiline if thing
3145. # [22:00] <@bz> fwiw
3146. # [22:00] <@smaug> well, consistency is very important
3147. # [22:01] <vlad> smaug: eh, that I don't care as much about; feels like unnecessary line noise for return/continue/break, but it's not a big deal
3148. # [22:01] <@smaug> so, { goes to the end with if
3149. # [22:01] <vlad> it is, but not for the sake of consistency
3150. # [22:01] <vlad> blindly following "rules" is never a good idea
3151. # [22:01] <@smaug> consistency is for the sake of easy-to-read code
3152. # [22:03] <vlad> sure, I could argue that {} positioning, unless it's totally crazy, doesn't really make or break easy to read code in most cases
3153. # [22:03] <vlad> but I really don't want to :)
3154. # [22:03] <jlebar> Enforcing braces in { } isn't really helping with consistency if none of the surrounding code is consistent.
3155. # [22:03] <jlebar> And if none of the reviewers are consistent.
3156. # Session Close: Wed Sep 05 22:03:47 2012
3157. #
3158. # Session Start: Wed Sep 05 22:03:47 2012
3159. # Session Ident: #developers
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3163. # [22:05] * Topic is 'Fix your patch-queue for Bug 773151 || Pymake live on Win32: Update m-c for try! || Please avoid using NSPR types! || Next merge: 2012-10-08 || New/want to help? See irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ , http://logbot.glob.com.au/'
3164. # [22:05] * Set by darktrojan on Sun Sep 02 07:38:34
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3167. # [22:05] <@smaug> jlebar: so, now that I have my MDN account back, I can finally fix some issues in the coding style
3168. # [22:05] <jlebar> smaug, Oh no.
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3173. # [22:06] <jlebar> smaug, Can I just pre-emptively say the same thing to you that I said to edmorley? The rules that are written down are a lot less important than the rules we actually follow.
3174. # [22:06] * Waldo|lunch is now known as Waldo
3175. # [22:06] <@smaug> totally agree
3176. # [22:07] <jlebar> Okay, carry on, then. :)
3177. # [22:07] <vlad> the rules that are written down are also fine in the coding style doc
3178. # [22:07] <vlad> but they need some more detail, all of which I guess is the issues that we just discussed :)
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3180. # [22:08] <vlad> e.g. multi-line control structure clauses, and inline methods in class definitions
3181. # [22:09] * @smaug should update jst-review to do the right thing
3182. # [22:09] <@ted> i like google's style guide in terms of detail
3183. # [22:09] <@ted> it's pretty verbose about what to do
3184. # [22:09] <philor> wait, we have rules that we follow?
3185. # [22:09] <@smaug> beaufour: you have the source code for jst-review ?
3186. # [22:09] <vlad> we have rules that are written down, that are pretty sane too!
3187. # [22:09] <jlebar> philor, A surprising number, actually.
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3189. # [22:09] <jlebar> philor, && at the end of the line
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3191. # [22:09] <jlebar> philor, functions get their open brace on a new line
3192. # [22:10] <jlebar> philor, Capitalization of names
3193. # [22:10] <@smaug> this is about C++
3194. # [22:10] * @smaug doesn't know js style
3195. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf1fa7a6cd1b - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 787172 - B2G RIL: Wait for the system app to load before turning on the radio. r=vingtetun
3196. # [22:10] <@smaug> and js eng uses it own error prone coding style
3197. # [22:10] * @ted hates the places where google style and mozilla style don't agree
3198. # [22:10] <@ted> i always screw those up
3199. # [22:11] <@smaug> ted: google coding style isn't webkit coding style, right?
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3201. # [22:12] <@ted> don't think so, no
3202. # [22:12] <@ted> but i submit a lot of breakpad patches
3203. # [22:12] <@smaug> right
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3205. # [22:12] <@ted> i find that i don't really care about most style issues anymore
3206. # [22:12] <@ted> i just want a clear guide that tells me what to do
3207. # [22:12] <@smaug> yup
3208. # [22:12] <@ted> and i kind of hate our mishmash of personal styles in the mozilla codebase
3209. # [22:13] <@smaug> that is what I'm trying to reduce
3210. # [22:14] <@smaug> hopefully using some automatic tool, like jst-reviewer
3211. # [22:14] * KWierso|Home only codes in gangnam style
3212. # [22:14] <glandium> we should have rules that can be enforced with programs like indent
3213. # [22:14] <bdahl> +1 for a lint tool, saves time from humans having to do lint
3214. # [22:14] <@ted> that would be great
3215. # [22:14] <@smaug> (but jst-reviewer uses some old coding style, so it needs to be updated )
3216. # [22:14] <@ted> would love to just run a tool on my code and either have it point out what needs to be fixed or fix it for me
3217. # [22:14] <glandium> ted: yeah, that
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3219. # [22:16] <bdahl> for pdf.js we run gjslint with our bot on all pull requests, though i'm not sure i'd recommend gjslint as it's very slow
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3224. # [22:19] <aceman> hi
3225. # [22:19] <aceman> is declaring a 'let' variable before a loop any faster than declaring it inside the loop?
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3227. # [22:21] <@smaug> aceman: #jsapi might be better for that question
3228. # [22:21] <@smaug> even better might be to just test
3229. # [22:21] <jorendorff> aceman: no. do you have any closures?
3230. # [22:22] <aceman> I don't think so
3231. # [22:22] <jorendorff> if there are closures, there might be a measurable difference. you'd have to measure.
3232. # [22:22] <aceman> just a 'for' loop that iterater over an array
3233. # [22:22] <aceman> iterates
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3237. # [22:24] <aceman> like this: let x; for(i) { x = array[i]... } VS for (i) { let x = array[i]... }
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3242. # [22:28] <jprmc> taras: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787757
3243. # [22:30] <NeilAway> Asa: <therube_agone> remind me not to try opening about:cache?device=disk again any time soon ;-)
3244. # [22:30] * davehunt|away is now known as davehunt
3245. # [22:31] <philor> so close: the next-to-last job on joshmoz's m-r push was the first orange
3246. # [22:33] <devd> hi .. how do I convert a nsCOMPtr<T> into *T ?
3247. # [22:33] <Waldo> glandium: note that if someone's done r?you and you want to r+ but also get a review from another person, changing the r? to the other person and setting add.review to + will make that other person's r+ mail go to the original requester, not to you
3248. # [22:34] <@smaug> devd: your variable.get()
3249. # [22:34] <glandium> Waldo: ah, nice trick
3250. # [22:36] <devd> smaug: ohh thanks!
3251. # [22:36] <Mossop> Or generally just try to use it in a context that attempts to convert it to a pointer
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3254. # [22:37] <@bsmedberg> How come the downloads window is blank on mac?
3255. # [22:38] <devd> Mossop: hmm
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3257. # [22:38] <devd> Mossop: can you explain bz's comment here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671389#c49
3258. # [22:38] <devd> maybe I am missing something
3259. # [22:38] <@smaug> well, in certain cases you need to use .get()
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3261. # [22:38] <mkaply> I'm trying to debug on Mac and I'm getting stopped repeatedly on mCollector->mJSRuntime->NotifyEnterCycleCollectionThread(); at startup
3262. # [22:39] <mkaply> is that normal?
3263. # [22:39] <@smaug> devd: oh, **, not * ?
3264. # [22:39] * mkaply hasn't done this in a long time
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3266. # [22:39] <@smaug> devd: that is out param
3267. # [22:39] * Mossop doesn't have a working browser right now
3268. # [22:40] <@smaug> so that you could do nsCOMPtr<yourtype> foo; InitCSP(getter_AddRefs(foo));
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3271. # [22:40] <devd> aah
3272. # [22:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc866177911f - L. David Baron - Convert bidi_numeral_test.js from CR-LF to LF line endings. No bug.
3273. # [22:41] <@smaug> devd: make sure to remember to addref the out param value
3274. # [22:42] <@smaug> devd: NS_IF_ADDREF(*aCSP = mCSP);
3275. # [22:42] <@smaug> (or without _IF if mCSP is never null)
3276. # [22:42] <devd> smaug: but a do_createinstance returns nscomptr right, which I would need to convert to *nsIcontentsecuritypoklicy
3277. # [22:42] <devd> what does NS_IF_ADDREF do ?
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3279. # [22:43] <@smaug> calls AddRef if the expression is not null
3280. # [22:43] <@khuey> firebot: uuid
3281. # [22:43] <firebot> 94ca74e8-9cff-456e-a7a4-a4071a32ff58 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
3282. # [22:43] <jlebar> khuey, wait for it...
3283. # [22:43] <jlebar> :-p
3284. # [22:44] <@smaug> devd: what would you need to convert to *nsIcontentsecuritypoklicy ?
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3287. # [22:44] <@khuey> jlebar: I'm going to smack the next person who claims to steal my uuid
3288. # [22:44] <@smaug> devd: change nsCOMPtr<nsIContentSecurityPolicy> *aCSP to nsIContentSecurityPolicy** aCSP
3289. # [22:44] <devd> mcsp to acsp, since bz wants the argument to initcsp be **nsicontentsecuritypolicy and not nscomptr<nsicontentsecuritypolicy>
3290. # [22:44] <@smaug> devd: and *aCSP = mCSP; to NS_IF_ADDREF(*aCSP = mCSP);
3291. # [22:45] <devd> so the assignment from mcsp to acsp will work, evne though mcsp is nscomptr, and acsp is *nsIcontentSecurityPolicy?
3292. # [22:45] <jlebar> khuey, It's really too bad there isn't a way to get them in a more private medium.
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3294. # [22:45] <@smaug> devd: yes, assignment from nsCOMPtr<T> to T* does work automatically
3295. # [22:45] * @bsmedberg wonders if there is sarcasm here
3296. # [22:46] <hobophobe> Depending on your IRC client, you might be able to easily call a local UUID generator?
3297. # [22:46] <KWierso|Home> can
3298. # [22:46] <@bsmedberg> just /msg firebot uuid
3299. # [22:46] <KWierso|Home> ^
3300. # [22:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a20c53ec062a - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 787576 - Refine telemetry data for how much cache corruption reduction plan would help. r=michal
3301. # [22:46] <devd> smaug: ok thanks!
3302. # [22:47] * hobophobe wonders if there's dial-a-uuid service
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3304. # [22:47] <@khuey> /kick jlebar
3305. # [22:48] * @bsmedberg heads off to poland, prays for Lufthansa to behave
3306. # [22:48] <@khuey> haha
3307. # [22:48] <@khuey> glwt
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3311. # [22:50] <NeilAway> who would know how to stop JS from caching chrome script?
3312. # [22:50] <@smaug> hobophobe: there is always http://mozilla.pettay.fi/cgi-bin/mozuuid.pl :)
3313. # [22:50] <@smaug> that gets surprisingly lots of hits per month
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3320. # [22:52] <@smaug> it is not a search bot which is loading that page
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3333. # [23:00] <Mossop> Does __defineSetter__ work in strict mode?
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3360. # [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/827807082790 - John Schoenick - Bug 786650 - Abort load of channel-having plugins without frames at the appropriate point. r=josh
3361. # [23:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6f040934c99 - John Schoenick - Bug 548133 - Remove special handling for object 'pluginurl' param. r=dolske,josh
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3363. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/460d24605a7b - Andrew Sutherland - Bug 786639 - XPCChromeObjectWrapper __exposedProps__ should expose the content of typed arrays like UInt8Array. r=bholley
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3371. # [23:24] <firebot> Check-in:
3372. # [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4959a10d90aa - Daniel Holbert - Bug 666041 patch 6: Ignore min/max main-size properties when computing the main size of a flex item (since those properties are honored later in the flexbox algorithm).
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3374. # [23:24] <firebot> r=dbaron
3375. # [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e919c8cdb667 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 666041 patch 5: Use flex-basis in place of main-size property, when computing the main size of a flex item. r=dbaron
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3377. # [23:25] <ehsan_> jdm: look what I found! http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/thumbnails/PageThumbsProtocol.js#385
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3379. # [23:25] * jdm is afraid
3380. # [23:25] <jdm> ehsan_: :(
3381. # [23:26] <@smaug> !seen gandalf
3382. # [23:26] <@killer> I don't know who gandalf is.
3383. # [23:26] <firebot> gandalf was last seen 6 hours, 5 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging' in #l10n-drivers.
3384. # [23:26] <KWierso|Home> killer--
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3387. # [23:27] <Standard8> is that debugging rubber ducks, or using rubber ducks for debugging
3388. # [23:27] * Standard8 will have to look at the link
3389. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2ba5257ab22 - Luke Wagner - Bug 788419 - Fix loop in handleUnaliasedAccess (r=jimb)
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3399. # [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/627f6297acea - Doug Turner - Bug 788588 - Device storage on Windows should use NS_WIN_PERSONAL_DIR. r=blassey
3400. # [23:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/108c96a5c2c0 - Doug Turner - Bug 787299 - Device Storage - Filter out mimetypes during calculation of disk usages. r=bent
3401. # [23:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5b72d2b80977 - Doug Turner - Bug 786922 - Device Storage - use a properties file instead of the mime service. r=bent
3402. # [23:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2543cd470978 - Doug Turner - Bug 786922 - Device Storage - use a properties file instead of the mime service. The properties. r=djf
3403. # [23:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/14ea11f7a22a - Doug Turner - Bug 788268 - Device Storage - Convert tests to use public types. r=bent
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3406. # [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9000cfd0f51a - Benoit Girard - Bug 788400 - Part 1: Add a frame counter to OGLLayers. r=jmuizelaar
3407. # [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/308fd7da03e6 - Benoit Girard - Bug 788400 - Part 2: Add a frame number to profiles. r=ehsan
3408. # [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9235cf9dadaa - Benoit Girard - Bug 788680 - Don't stripped symbols from Fennec Nightly releases. r=ted
3409. # [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c972b36f2e36 - Benoit Girard - Bug 788681 - Fix swapped Typedefs IOSurfaceGetWidthFunc and IOSurfaceGetHeightFunc. r=smichaud
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3411. # [23:46] <Waldo> Mossop: methods are orthogonal to strict mode, so yes, but note that you should use Object.defineProperty instead of __defineSetter__
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3415. # [23:46] <Mossop> Waldo: Under what circumstances would defineProperty work when __defineSetter__ wouldn't right now?
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3418. # [23:46] <Waldo> Mossop: __defineSetter__ is non-standard
3419. # [23:47] <Waldo> Mossop: for what it's worth, I believe it's also slightly slower
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3421. # [23:47] <Mossop> Waldo: In a current nightly build
3422. # [23:47] <Mossop> I get __defineSetter__ is not a function
3423. # [23:47] <Waldo> Mossop: what context exactly?
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3427. # [23:49] <Mossop> It's in a sandbox I know that, but it's a non-trivial example so I don't fully know what state everything is in. Just wondered if you knew off the top of your head what mgiht be going on
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3429. # [23:49] <Waldo> no idea
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