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  9. # [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d89a71a8f5ae - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 785246: Make custom button inherit ShapedButton. [r=mfinkle]
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  32. # [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aacd56bc4f44 - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Fix an assertion failure when the decoder is cloned. r=cpearce
  33. # [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32bfacfc4841 - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Avoid sniffing when recreating a channel. r=cpearce
  34. # [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81b3c65bc17a - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Remove the classinfo stubs. r=peterv
  35. # [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c8a5cb2d155 - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Sniff types of media files that are served with no Content-Type. r=cpearce
  36. # [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efdaa596b3f5 - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Tests for sniffing the types of media files that are served with no Content-Type. r=cpearce
  37. # [00:18] <tanvi> anyone know how to detect whether an external stylesheet loaded? there is no onload or onerror event handlers for the <link> tag. with some searching, i found this http://stackoverflow.com/a/4710344, but it doesn't work
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  43. # [00:19] <BenWa> Anyone know if 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' allows you to read frame data from a video element?
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  46. # [00:19] <bdahl> Mossop: ping
  47. # [00:19] <Mossop> bdahl: pong
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  51. # [00:21] <bdahl> Mossop: i see that some the find/findbar stuff is in toolkit/components. Do you know of someone that is particularly knowledgable about find?
  52. # [00:21] <taras> roc: do css transitions obide by same rules as animations?
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  54. # [00:21] <taras> abide even
  55. # [00:21] <@roc> yes
  56. # [00:22] <@roc> benwa: it does
  57. # [00:22] <Mossop> bdahl: I know some stuff, I think Mano knows some stuff, also check the blame on the particular files you're interested in
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  59. # [00:22] <BenWa> Great!
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  61. # [00:22] <@roc> if you set the crossOrigin element
  62. # [00:22] <@roc> er attribute
  63. # [00:22] <taras> roc: so i'm looking at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.css#36
  64. # [00:22] <BenWa> crossOrigin element? *googles*
  65. # [00:22] <@roc> ATTRIBUTE
  66. # [00:23] <taras> roc: that transition can take anywhere from <100 ms to >1s
  67. # [00:23] <BenWa> ok :)
  68. # [00:23] <@roc> taras: disturbing
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  70. # [00:23] <taras> roc: according to the js handlers for it
  71. # [00:23] <bdahl> Mossop: not sure on particular files yet, but we'd like to integrate pdf.js with the built in find and are looking for a general guidance on how to even go about staring such a thing
  72. # [00:23] <@roc> bug 731974 may help
  73. # [00:24] <taras> roc: based on http://dxr.allizom.org/mozilla-central/browser/base/content/tabbrowser.xml#l3455 timing
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  77. # [00:24] <@roc> maybe there's just a 1s jank in there somewhere?
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  79. # [00:25] <taras> roc: event-loop contention does create a lot of noise
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  82. # [00:26] <taras> roc: but as far as i can tell duration depends more on graphics performance than other factors
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  85. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f990752e27c - Chris Jones - Bug 776850: Kill subprocesses that fail backstop permission checks. r=jlebar
  86. # [00:29] <@gavin> I can't get that http://dxr.allizom.org link to load
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  89. # [00:29] <Mossop> bdahl: That sounds like quite a challenge, it's all pretty DOM oriented under the scenes I think, and I'm assuming you don't have one
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  91. # [00:30] <taras> gavin: weird
  92. # [00:30] <@gavin> ah, loaded now
  93. # [00:31] <bdahl> Mossop: we do partially, but that is only for rendered pages. As yury suggested we were maybe thinking of events before find so then we could handle it instead
  94. # [00:31] <jlebar> mwu, Yeah, that did it. Okay! I'll try to write in a diagnostic to flash.sh so it will produce a more helpful error.
  95. # [00:31] <mwu> sounds good
  96. # [00:32] <Mossop> bdahl: findbar.xml is the UI, it currently uses two different interfaces depending on whether it's doing fayt or highlighting all
  97. # [00:32] <@gavin> (highlight all is gross do not look)
  98. # [00:32] <taras> vlad: ping
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  102. # [00:32] <Mossop> gavin: Maybe we can convince bdahl to fix it ;)
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  106. # [00:33] <Mossop> At least we're not creating new nodes in the content anymore
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  108. # [00:33] <sfink> padenot/RyanVM: burning from nsTAutoString stuff
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  110. # [00:34] <RyanVM> yep
  111. # [00:34] <dholbert> padenot / RyanVM, looks like you've got some m-i bustage, in part from nsnull and nsCAutoString
  112. # [00:34] <RyanVM> sfink: did something change in the very recent past? because these patches passed Try yesterday
  113. # [00:34] <dholbert> </redundancy>
  114. # [00:34] <sfink> I have something to push, and was going to offer to backout at the same time, but I don't like the looks of what's there right now
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  117. # [00:35] <sfink> RyanVM: when did the nsTAutoString rename land?
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  121. # [00:36] <sfink> oh, wait, that was nsCAutoString
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  123. # [00:36] <dholbert> sfink, you mean nsCAutoString? That was this weekend
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  125. # [00:36] <padenot> yeah, that's why I'm confused.
  126. # [00:37] <RyanVM> the parent of the try push was from yesterday
  127. # [00:37] <sfink> dholbert: if we were in the same room, we'd be talking at the same time
  128. # [00:37] <RyanVM> so it should have all those changes
  129. # [00:37] <sfink> oh, wait, we probably are
  130. # [00:37] <RyanVM> i clobbered m-i
  131. # [00:37] <dholbert> sfink, ha. yup, likely :)
  132. # [00:37] <RyanVM> we'll see what happens on the retriggers
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  136. # [00:39] <padenot> meh, for some reason I still have an nsCAutoString and an nsnull
  137. # [00:39] <RyanVM> (btw, this is where having Try links is oh so helpful :P)
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  140. # [00:39] <bdahl> Mossop: does an event that we can prevent the default search from happening sound reasonable?
  141. # [00:39] <RyanVM> how would that have survived Try?
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  143. # [00:39] <padenot> because I probably forgot to upload an updated patch
  144. # [00:39] <sfink> because it hadn't been rebased onto the rename yet
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  146. # [00:39] <RyanVM> ok, backing out
  147. # [00:40] <RyanVM> sfink: or you can if you want to push
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  149. # [00:40] <sfink> RyanVM: nope, with my track record, I definitely do not want to land with this much stuff backed up
  150. # [00:40] <RyanVM> i'm still confused, though, because the parent cset of the Try push was from yesterday (https://hg.mozilla.org/try/pushloghtml?changeset=7c75cd38626a)
  151. # [00:40] <RyanVM> which should have had both of those changes
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  153. # [00:41] <padenot> RyanVM: the patch on try are correct, but I _guess_ I missed a patch when uploading to the bug
  154. # [00:41] <Mossop> bdahl: You mean just not show the find bar?
  155. # [00:41] <sfink> btw, I don't find the auto-post to try part of trychooser syntax useful, because I only want successful runs posted. I guess I want a tbpl button that lets me post the results to try (after I'm done retriggering to make everything look pretty, too.)
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  158. # [00:41] <RyanVM> padenot: OK
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  160. # [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3656a5b00792 - tbirdbld - Added THUNDERBIRD_16_0b2_RELEASE THUNDERBIRD_16_0b2_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset db28559df995. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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  163. # [00:42] <Mossop> Is there a way to get the current JS version from JS?
  164. # [00:42] <bdahl> Mossop: still show the find bar, but when the user click find next button an event is triggered and we handle it
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  170. # [00:43] <Mossop> bdahl: And then your code updates the page display and the findbar UI? Where does this code live, in the chrome side?
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  179. # [00:46] <@dolske> I pity tha fool who ain't usin nsAutoTString
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  181. # [00:46] <RyanVM> padenot: I'll re-push when things go green again
  182. # [00:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c580e01ae0c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout bug 567077 for bustage.
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  185. # [00:47] <padenot> RyanVM: yeah, I've just uploaded the right patch to the bug, sorry about that
  186. # [00:47] <dholbert> Is there any reason to have "do { ... } while (0);" in C++? Isn't that just equivalent to "{...}"? In the first case you can use "break" if you want, but aside from that
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  188. # [00:48] <jwir3> dholbert: waste bytes?
  189. # [00:48] <jwir3> ;)
  190. # [00:48] <padenot> old C habit, I suppose
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  192. # [00:49] <bdahl> Mossop: we would update the page display(we have to do the highlighting anyway) and then maybe the event would have a callback so we could notify the findbar UI if the search string was found or if it wrapped etc...
  193. # [00:50] <bdahl> this code would live in regular content
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  196. # [00:51] <cjones> dholbert, in a macro?
  197. # [00:51] <dholbert> cjones, yeah
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  199. # [00:51] <cjones> do { } while(0) is syntactically the same as a statement
  200. # [00:51] <dholbert> cjones, or rather -- I saw this in a macro
  201. # [00:51] <cjones> whereas { } is a block
  202. # [00:51] <dholbert> ah, gotcha
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  205. # [00:53] <dholbert> cjones, thanks
  206. # [00:53] <cjones> np
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  208. # [00:55] <Mossop> bdahl: Well, not sure events make sense as such, and we can't let just any content do that, but I guess you could change things so the findbar used different pieces of code depending on what's being displayed. That code is an awful mess though so I really don't know if that is the easiest way right now
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  218. # [01:00] <bdahl> Mossop: letting any content do it could be interesting though, google docs comes to mind for an example
  219. # [01:01] <bdahl> i guess it's all should content have that power
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  221. # [01:01] <Mossop> Yeah, I also don't want us to design a spec for it
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  228. # [01:05] <RyanVM> dougt: you have bustage
  229. # [01:05] <RyanVM> dougt: on m-c
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  231. # [01:06] <@khuey> ooh
  232. # [01:06] <@khuey> can I back him out?
  233. # [01:06] <RyanVM> khuey: I was going to, but you can if you want :)
  234. # [01:06] <@khuey> sweet
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  236. # [01:07] <RyanVM> feel free to chide him for a) not using Try and b) landing directly on m-c while you're at it
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  240. # [01:08] <dholbert> haha, dougt is being backedoutbykylehuey.com
  241. # [01:09] <lsblakk> lol
  242. # [01:09] <@khuey> ugh fucking tree hook
  243. # [01:09] <lsblakk> ha! i didn't expect that url to resolve...bookmarked.
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  246. # [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fd4d9c386f97 - Kyle Huey - Back out dougt (bug 788588 et al.) for burning the tree (and some nostalgia).
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  251. # [01:12] <karl> jlebar: which about:memory stat shows RSS + space-on-swap?
  252. # [01:12] <jlebar> karl, Do you see the swap tree?
  253. # [01:12] <jlebar> karl, You add that to the rss tree.
  254. # [01:12] <jlebar> karl, Oh...you need to be in verbose mode.
  255. # [01:12] <jlebar> about:memory?verbose
  256. # [01:12] <jlebar> we hid it in regular about:memory
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  258. # [01:13] <karl> ah, found it thanks
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  279. # [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6768c151b64 - Thaddee Tyl - Bug 781032 - Fix a crash in CSSParserImpl::SetDefaultNamespaceOnSelector by creating the nsCSSParser at a valid spot. r=bz
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  281. # [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14ac87e7546b - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Tests for sniffing the types of media files that are served with no Content-Type. r=cpearce
  282. # [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a11353cad22 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound. r=backedoutbykylehuey.com
  283. # [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd4d9c386f97 - Kyle Huey - Back out dougt (bug 788588 et al.) for burning the tree (and some nostalgia).
  284. # [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a027c9d63d20 - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Sniff types of media files that are served with no Content-Type. r=cpearce
  285. # [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cc49d5dcff4 - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Remove the classinfo stubs. r=peterv
  286. # [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb3dd01ba9be - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Avoid sniffing when recreating a channel. r=cpearce
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  289. # [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa4ba0fc1f8d - Paul Adenot - Bug 567077 - Fix an assertion failure when the decoder is cloned. r=cpearce
  290. # [01:22] <firebot> mconley was last seen 29 hours, 38 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'car: thanks!' in #maildev.
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  296. # [01:28] <stephend> who works on canvas stuff?
  297. # [01:28] <@dolske> stephend: depends, but mostly gfx people I think.
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  299. # [01:29] <stephend> like joe?
  300. # [01:29] <@dolske> sure, let's say joe. :)
  301. # [01:29] <@dolske> could end up elsewhere, it spans a number of areas.
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  303. # [01:31] * stephend nods
  304. # [01:31] <stephend> ok, trying to find a new repro case
  305. # [01:31] <stephend> basically, we use an HTML Report plugin with Selenium + Jenkins
  306. # [01:32] <stephend> which dumps out <canvas> elements from screenshots
  307. # [01:32] <stephend> and when we click on them, they're empty or black
  308. # [01:32] <stephend> (we create thumbnails)
  309. # [01:33] <@dolske> doesn't ring a bell, good luck!
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  313. # [01:35] <dougt> khuey: thanks.
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  316. # [01:35] <dougt> i was backedoutbykylehuey.com
  317. # [01:36] <@stuart> you need a KYLE SMASH CHECKIN graphic
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  322. # [01:41] <dougt> stuart: i did invent a new mimetype for him. https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5b72d2b80977 Search for kyle
  323. # [01:41] <@stuart> nice
  324. # [01:42] <dougt> handling that mimetype will explode the earth.
  325. # [01:42] <@dbaron> cjones, so two layout/style intermittent oranges that hadn't been seen for years came back today
  326. # [01:42] <@dbaron> cjones, and I'm inclined to blame your change to background painting for lack of anything else to blame
  327. # [01:43] <cjones> dbaron, do you mind linking me?
  328. # [01:43] <cjones> the odds of my patch doing that are pretty vanishingly small
  329. # [01:43] <@dbaron> cjones, 536603 and 576543
  330. # [01:43] <cjones> unless they're out-of-process tests
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  332. # [01:43] <@dbaron> cjones, they're not
  333. # [01:43] <cjones> which i don't think we're running on tb anymore
  334. # [01:44] <@dbaron> cjones, but it's also 2 csets before the first appearance
  335. # [01:44] <@dbaron> cjones, which was on your ipc::LoggingEnabled push
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  342. # [01:46] <@dbaron> cjones, I'm suspicious of the nsPresShell.cpp change in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84fe2b3c5ed9
  343. # [01:46] <@dbaron> cjones, that seems like a substantive change to non-cross-process
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  346. # [01:47] <cjones> dbaron, in the same-process case it reduces to the same code
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  348. # [01:48] <@dbaron> cjones, doesn't look it to me
  349. # [01:48] <cjones> dbaron, what looks different?
  350. # [01:48] <cjones> i'm looking over the patch again
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  352. # [01:49] <@dbaron> cjones, it looks like you made the condition never be true except when there's cross-process stuff
  353. # [01:49] <@dbaron> cjones, er, no, I'm misreading the function name, I guess
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  355. # [01:49] <@dbaron> cjones, "XRE_GetProcessType() == GeckoProcessType_Default" should be true for running mochitests?
  356. # [01:50] <cjones> dbaron, for same-process code, yes
  357. # [01:50] <@dbaron> cjones, ok, then I guess it looks ok
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  361. # [01:53] <@dbaron> cjones, is it possible we're running some tests cross-process on OS X 10.7, but not elsewhere?
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  365. # [01:54] <cjones> dbaron, not to my knowledge
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  367. # [01:54] <cjones> we do run some tests cross-process, but only the browser-element ones
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  402. # [02:23] <cjones> does anyone know if webkit on android delivers touch gestures in addition to / instead of raw touch events?
  403. # [02:23] <RyanVM> woohoo, android starring time
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  406. # [02:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d510742da8e9 - Paul Adenot - Bug 730765 - Tests for nsISeekableStream when backed by a nsMultiplexInputStream. r=biesi
  407. # [02:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e31c400df7a1 - Paul Adenot - Bug 730765 - Media cache shouldn't be used when loading from blob: urls. r=biesi
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  409. # [02:27] <philor> RyanVM: curious point to ponder, as you star two or three or five Android jobs on every push on inbound, even the ones that didn't run every Android test - why does release have only one Android failure in the last three pushes?
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  414. # [02:28] <RyanVM> philor: a just question
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  416. # [02:28] <RyanVM> philor: stupid question - same pool?
  417. # [02:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8493fd90d1d2 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 783405 - Remember the y-positions used for estimating space above and below for the dropdown. r=smaug,roc
  418. # [02:29] <@dolske> green means they are orange as expected
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  420. # [02:29] <RyanVM> win
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  422. # [02:32] <RyanVM> philor: but I also see fewer failures on the weekends when things are slower
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  425. # [02:34] <RyanVM> philor: also, do you have any idea what the story is with the windows build timeouts happening sporadically during the day?
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  432. # [02:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db0d30f0f498 - Doug Turner - Bug 788268 - Device Storage - Convert tests to use public types. r=bent
  433. # [02:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea472ffba523 - Doug Turner - Bug 786922 - Device Storage - use a properties file instead of the mime service. r=bent
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  435. # [02:39] <RyanVM> wise move, dougt :P
  436. # [02:40] <RyanVM> dougt: you.....wouldn't want to see khuey angry
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  440. # [02:43] <zzzzz> I"m confused as usual - 788588 was bcked out of m-c due to orange, but relanded on m-i and I don't see any updated patch or change ?
  441. # [02:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/195a99db216a - Gregor Wagner - Bug 788561 - SettingsAPI: Use createLock instead of getLock. r=bent
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  443. # [02:44] <ferongr> has a recent change happened that would set the pref "browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent" to false and create "browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent.backup" with the original value (true)?
  444. # [02:45] <dougt> RyanVM: i have seen it.
  445. # [02:45] <dougt> and it isn't pretty.
  446. # [02:46] <RyanVM> zzzzz: presumably he re-landed all but the bad patch (note 5 originally vs. 4 now)
  447. # [02:46] <zzzzz> hmm, ok
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  514. # [03:32] * @khuey puts his credit card information into sketchy polish website
  515. # [03:33] <@khuey> and by sketchy I mean "not in English"
  516. # [03:33] <@dbaron> I hate second-half-of-year timezone changes. There's no good time to send an email announcing them, since the little ones are at the beginning and the biggest ones at the end.
  517. # [03:33] <marco> khuey: you're a brave man
  518. # [03:34] <KWierso|Home> khuey: if I put up a non-english site, will you give me your money, too?
  519. # [03:34] <@khuey> KWierso|Home: will your website claim to sell me a ferry ride from someplace I will be to someplace I want to go?
  520. # [03:34] <@khuey> if so, maybe
  521. # [03:35] <KWierso|Home> it'll tell you whatever it takes to take your money :)
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  524. # [03:35] <@khuey> heh
  525. # [03:36] <@khuey> just remember that I can chargeback
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  530. # [03:38] <@khuey> the Polish railway wants to charge me 50% of the price of my ticket to let me pick up the ticket in Warsaw
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  554. # [03:51] <Jimmez> Anyone up to date on TLS 1.X / NSS development?
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  556. # [03:52] <@khuey> hmm
  557. # [03:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3b3b27099a9 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788096 (part 3) - Rename GCConstList as CGConstList for consistency with similar types. r=jorendorff.
  558. # [03:52] <@khuey> the hotel is right across the street from the train station
  559. # [03:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/359e4c33b89b - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788096 (part 2) - Introduce CGTryNoteList for storing try notes in the bytecode mitter. r=jorendorff.
  560. # [03:52] * @khuey decides to just buy a ticket in poland
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  598. # [04:20] <philor> RyanVM: sorry, was away - no idea about Windows, I was waiting for it to show any sort of pattern
  599. # [04:21] <RyanVM> philor: well, it's dying in the sam eplace every time
  600. # [04:21] <RyanVM> that's something
  601. # [04:21] <RyanVM> I'm thinking sid0 is at fault for some reason :)
  602. # [04:21] <RyanVM> I haven't gotten around to filing it yet, but there's ~10 failures spread out between m-c and inbound
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  606. # [04:22] <philor> yeah, sid0 touched Windows hard enough to own it
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  611. # [04:26] <@dolske> jesus. I didn't know "touch it you own it" extended quite that far! ;)
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  619. # [04:30] <@khuey> why is it so hard to find someone to sell me a train ticket in sweden
  620. # [04:30] <philor> oh, that's why I didn't think they were all dying in the same place, that first one on m-c died in dom/workers
  621. # [04:31] <padenot> khuey: tried sj.se ? it worked fine when I was in Sweden.
  622. # [04:32] <RyanVM> philor: my bad, I'll admit I stopped looking at the logs after the first few all showed the same thing
  623. # [04:36] <@khuey> padenot: it won't accept any of my US credit cards
  624. # [04:37] <philor> RyanVM: bug 788917, stick "libjar\test" into your awesomebar while you still can, I couldn't come up with any usefully unique words
  625. # [04:37] <RyanVM> already did :)
  626. # [04:37] <RyanVM> thanks
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  628. # [04:38] <RyanVM> yay for doing the first merge of the day
  629. # [04:38] <RyanVM> only 117 changesets since the last one...
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  642. # [04:49] <RyanVM> gee, only starred 14 different android bugs tonight
  643. # [04:51] <philor> what they lack in range, they make up for in volume
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  653. # [04:59] <froydnj> RyanVM++ for r=backedoutbykylehuey.com
  654. # [05:00] <RyanVM> glad somebody caught that :)
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  674. # [05:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff19aab9d56c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
  675. # [05:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d63594c05a9 - Makoto Kato - Bug 784912 - nsIStreamListener.onDataAvailable should handle 64-bit offset. r=honza
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  699. # [05:33] <qDot> Aw hell. How do I clobber platforms for m-i again?
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  701. # [05:34] <qDot> Ah, foudn it.
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  719. # [05:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e83ba39ec95 - Mark Capella - Bug 774500 - Make about:support Page more mobile-friendly, r=margaret
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  741. # [06:17] <@roc> I hate tests that fail once every few days
  742. # [06:17] <@roc> on a given platform, once every couple of weeks
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  744. # [06:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/751b35e798d5 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 722217; keep only a single snapshot. r=jrmuizel
  745. # [06:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54e08a1bc985 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 786817. Initialise ThebesDisplayItemLayerUserData::mMaskClipCount. r=roc
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  764. # [06:45] <philor> yeah, gimme those 20 times a day ones every time
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  766. # [06:46] <philor> oh, you don't mean "in the cases where everyone will ignore the failures except the poor sucker who has to star them," do you?
  767. # [06:47] <Luqman> Would MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE not be defined for any reason ICS builds?
  768. # [06:47] <Luqman> i get "error: expected initializer before 'functionName'"
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  770. # [06:51] <@dbaron> RyanVM seems to star oranges going back almost a full day (my retriggers to bisect when these reintroduced intermittent oranges started)
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  772. # [06:53] <philor> that'd be from two things, looking at the intermittent Windows build hangs, and bulk-starring Android
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  774. # [06:53] <philor> well, three things: he gets home before I do, so on days when I can't steal enough time from my employer to star during the day, nobody, and I mean nobody, has starred a single thing, so he gets stuck with the entire US day of starring
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  776. # [06:58] <capella> philor: what kind of skills / level of experience is required to help with something like that?
  777. # [06:58] * @dbaron wonders whether this new orange is roc's fault
  778. # [06:59] <@roc> which?
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  780. # [07:00] <@dbaron> roc, about 25% of 10.7 opt mochitest-4 have been orange with one of two errors
  781. # [07:00] <@dbaron> roc, both of which have ancient bugs filed that hadn't been touched for 2+ years
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  783. # [07:00] <philor> capella: copious free time, and the ability to compare a failure message to a bug summary and sometimes to the first and last comment in a bug
  784. # [07:00] <@dbaron> roc, it's frequent enough that I should have it bisected within an hour or so
  785. # [07:00] * philor missed that there were two of them
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  787. # [07:01] <@dbaron> roc, but I think my most likely guess is that it's something in this push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=df1a1a1cfaf4
  788. # [07:01] <capella> Well I've got that ... and I'm always looking to learn ...
  789. # [07:01] <@dbaron> philor, yeah, 536603 and 576543
  790. # [07:01] <@dbaron> (both of which probably should have been WORKSFORME ages ago)
  791. # [07:02] <philor> well, the latter, the former wasn't WORKSFORME, it was PUNTEDBYDISABLINGHALFTHETESTBUTMAYBENOTENOUGH
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  795. # [07:03] <philor> the first one of test_visited_reftests.html did worry me, but by the time I starred the fourth one I'd already forgotten it had looked wrong in the morning
  796. # [07:04] <philor> mmm, the fourth one after it was merged to m-c, nice
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  800. # [07:04] <capella> philor: i've been starring my own on TRY's all along ... would knocking off easy oranges on inbound be helpful?
  801. # [07:04] <@dbaron> philor, yeah, I think I saw that go by, didn't have a chance to look
  802. # [07:05] <@dbaron> philor, but someone should bisect if it's common enough
  803. # [07:06] <rclick> Luqman: It won't be defined unless Attributes.h gets pulled in one way or another.
  804. # [07:06] <rclick> Luqman: Maybe you need to |#include "mozilla/Attributes.h"| ?
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  807. # [07:08] <@roc> of my three patches, one affects canvas only, one affects plugins only, and the other affects scrolling only
  808. # [07:08] <@roc> test_css_cross_domain.html doesn't seem to do anything of those things :-(
  809. # [07:08] <philor> capella: "probably" ;) - it's a fine line between "whew, there aren't that many" and "damn, every single unstarred failure is a miserable annoying one where I have to open the log and then manually search bugzilla"
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  812. # [07:10] <capella> laughs ... well I can designate you as the first person in line to yell @ me if I screw something up
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  814. # [07:11] <philor> I know how to do that!
  815. # [07:11] <heycam> what's the proper way to make a mochitest conditional on a pref? just look up the pref in the test and do nothing if it's not the right value?
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  817. # [07:11] <philor> yeah, but not nothing because we yell about that, so you have to todo(false, "I wanted my pref set!")
  818. # [07:12] <@roc> it's better to set the pref so that your test always runs
  819. # [07:12] <heycam> right ok
  820. # [07:12] <heycam> oh that's an alternative
  821. # [07:12] <capella> B) Might need help regarding reserching existing and opening new bugs - lets see
  822. # [07:12] <heycam> it would make backing out the text stuff harder though, it wouldn't just be a "flip the pref" thing
  823. # [07:12] <heycam> because then maybe there are still tests running that might have broken
  824. # [07:13] <KWierso|Home> capella: step 1: ask philor. there is no step 2. ;)
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  826. # [07:13] <capella> see above re: first person in line :D
  827. # [07:13] <@roc> heycam: I think that's less of a problem than not running the tests at all
  828. # [07:14] <heycam> ok
  829. # [07:14] <@dbaron> roc, well, so far the retriggers seem to show your push is clean... which means it's one of: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=df1a1a1cfaf4&tochange=233275bcbdf6
  830. # [07:14] <@dbaron> roc, then again, it's actually probably the mcmanus http connection stuff
  831. # [07:15] <@roc> bug 648603 I'd guess
  832. # [07:15] <@roc> although
  833. # [07:15] <@roc> I suspect that change just reactivated the old intermittent
  834. # [07:16] <Luqman> rclick: i guess. but the same code builds on linux just fine
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  837. # [07:20] <@dbaron> philor, are we confident that our JS-implemented HTTP server can deal with the new higher connections-per-server limit without being flaky?
  838. # [07:21] <@dbaron> philor, I think test_visited_reftests.html and these other two may have in common that they can trigger a bunch of simultaneous HTTP requests
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  841. # [07:24] <@dbaron> ooh! ooh! ooh!
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  843. # [07:24] <@dbaron> mcmanus increased the max connections per *proxy*
  844. # [07:24] <@dbaron> which is higher than the max connections per server
  845. # [07:25] <@dbaron> httpd.js actually has code that looks at the max connections per server
  846. # [07:25] <@dbaron> and seems to assume that it isn't a proxy
  847. # [07:25] <philor> but httpd.js looks at... yeah
  848. # [07:25] <@dbaron> ok, patch coming
  849. # [07:26] <@dbaron> philor, what's the bug# for test_visited_reftests, btw?
  850. # [07:26] <@dbaron> philor, and did it start happening today too, or was it earlier?
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  852. # [07:28] <philor> dbaron: that's the other one you told me, bug 576543
  853. # [07:29] <@dbaron> of course, zwol pointed this out this morning in one of the bugs
  854. # [07:29] <@dbaron> and the rest of us didn't understand him :-)
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  856. # [07:30] <philor> is 5 times per server enough? httpd.js is actually more like 40 servers
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  858. # [07:30] <@dbaron> philor, eh?
  859. # [07:30] <@dbaron> "5 times per server" what?
  860. # [07:30] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536603#c79
  861. # [07:31] <philor> oh, 4 times rather than 5 more than
  862. # [07:31] <@dbaron> philor, I'm doing Math.max() of the proxy value and the server value, and leaving the +5
  863. # [07:31] <@dbaron> philor, since I believe we actually use it as a proxy in our mochitest setup
  864. # [07:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5f8055d8dde1 - Benoit Girard - Bug 788888 - Increase the default profile size to 1 million entries. r=ehsan
  865. # [07:32] <philor> but I guess httpd.js is considerably more than 40 servers, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/pgo/server-locations.txt#59
  866. # [07:32] <@dbaron> philor, except I think it's all a proxy
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  868. # [07:33] <philor> could be, that part I've never actually understood
  869. # [07:33] <@dbaron> philor, i.e., I'm trying https://hg.mozilla.org/users/dbaron_mozilla.com/patches/raw-file/7f09672df146/httpd-js-more-connections
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  875. # [07:39] <@dbaron> philor, we run mochitests with network.proxy.autoconfig_url set to a huge data URL
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  877. # [07:40] <capella> So do we just re-start reds? or oranges? empty summaries?
  878. # [07:40] <philor> dbaron: yeah, I was just reading that, and realizing that it all comes down to two proxies
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  881. # [07:41] <philor> capella: nope, we open the log, and learn to find the actual failure
  882. # [07:41] <philor> (and colors mean nearly nothing)
  883. # [07:41] <@dbaron> philor, anyway, do you want to r=, or should I land it pending review?
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  885. # [07:42] <philor> dbaron: land it pending r=waldo, pretty sure he's still proprietary about it
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  889. # [07:46] <philor> capella: and no, nobody has actually even started (well, I started locally and then gave up) a How To Find The Failure In An Android Test Run And Match It To A Bug
  890. # [07:47] <philor> what with crap like "signal 15 is signal 15 if nothing happened above it, but signal 15 in the reboot step is almost certainly signal 9 or reconnecting socket somewhere above"
  891. # [07:48] <capella> heh - im lookin at something says no summary but theres a log
  892. # [07:48] <capella> log has all exit code 0 and all return code [0]
  893. # [07:48] <capella> yah - android... hmm...
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  896. # [07:49] <capella> laughs - ive starting work on android patches so im curious
  897. # [07:49] <philor> look at the very top of the log, there's a line about "results: failure (2)" and you can then search for "results: 2" to find the buildstep that set that result
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  900. # [07:49] <philor> except, of course, that there are steps which claim to have set it, but then override their own result to cause it to not be recorded as a failure :)
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  902. # [07:50] <capella> warnings (1) only ...
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  904. # [07:50] <philor> results: 1 then
  905. # [07:50] <capella> android you tricky tricky little application
  906. # [07:51] <capella> ah ... timeout 2400 - sees a lot of those
  907. # [07:53] * philor considers how to explain that finding the bugs depends on searching your awesomebar history for words that at one time were in the summary, and how knowing they were at one time depends on having filed the bug and then added 1500 comments to it
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  909. # [07:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ec21394970c - L. David Baron - Remove the easy-to-remove uses of enablePrivilege in layout/base/tests/. (Bug 788603) r=roc
  910. # [07:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c8694da32f7 - L. David Baron - Followup to bug 648603: increase the number of connections that our test HTTP server will serve to the larger of the server limit or the proxy limit.
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  912. # [07:55] <capella> more heh
  913. # [07:57] <philor> black humor is the only defense of the Starring Department
  914. # [07:57] <philor> well, black humor and a fanatical devotion to disabling tests
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  916. # [07:59] <capella> TURN EM ALL OFF !!
  917. # [07:59] <philor> our three main weapons are black humor, incessant spam, a fanatical devotion to disabling tests, and occasional willingness to stretch the truth
  918. # [07:59] <capella> wow - got jaded fast
  919. # [08:00] <capella> So can we hate on people who push to inbound w/try :D
  920. # [08:00] <philor> oh, and by the way, "to avoid animal cruelty laws" I'm not actually supposed to be allowed to train anyone :)
  921. # [08:00] <capella> AAnd i thought animal cruelty laws only applied to interns
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  926. # [08:06] <philor> no, interns are like bail jumpers, no laws actually apply to them
  927. # [08:07] <capella> oic ... but im still above them in my mind ... :p
  928. # [08:07] <capella> So do you start work ... and somehow jump to oldest unstared and work forward kinda thingy?
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  930. # [08:08] <philor> I usually go top down unless I think there's bustage, when I go bottom up, or I think someone else is starring and so they'll go top down so I go bottom up, until I forget and start top down again
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  932. # [08:09] <philor> unless I'm in the mood to bulk-star android, then I go every-red-non-talos, every-orange, every-purple, every-red-talos
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  936. # [08:11] <capella> oic again - is there a trick to jump to bottom? or just scroll until you think you're there?
  937. # [08:11] <philor> the latter
  938. # [08:12] <capella> suspected
  939. # [08:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33a59f79700f - Alexander Surkov - Bug 507555 - Wrong accessible is created for HTML:li having block display style, r=tbsaunde
  940. # [08:12] <philor> remembering where you think you last completely starred sort of works, except that we have some crazy long timeouts, so things pop up two or seven hours after you thought something was clear
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  943. # [08:15] <capella> well i guess the next questions involve determining "readiness checkpoint" ? How are patches determined done ... bundled / moved forward to central for ex
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  945. # [08:16] <capella> but i dont need to get too far ahead
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  949. # [08:16] <philor> everything done and starred (and none of it starred as "fixed by some backout way up above") below a push that got PGO builds and tests
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  951. # [08:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e1d94c1352f - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788096 - Undo part 1 (c77231ed11be) because it regressed Talos Trace Malloc Allocs by ~1%. r=me.
  952. # [08:17] <philor> where by everything I of course mean everything we actually want to deal with, since there are lots of times where nobody wants to file the only time something has ever failed
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  955. # [08:18] <philor> filing intermittent orange being a certain death sentence for your bugmail account
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  957. # [08:19] <capella> yah ! thats where i hesitated ... is this new? outstanding issue?
  958. # [08:19] <capella> and you're the first in line to yell @ me :P I'll point them to you?
  959. # [08:19] <@dbaron> mrbkap, btw, you can figure out what a label is in a github issue by copy&paste, since it's in the document... it's just overflow:hidden and text-overflow:ellipsis
  960. # [08:19] <capella> death sentence - laughs
  961. # [08:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e79271d0adfe - Cameron McCormack - Bug 655877 - Part 46: Test fix due to subpixel AA not being used for SVG text with strokes. r=longsonr
  962. # [08:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9ff447e3841 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 788940 - Add more dilation to fallback-color-04. r=longsonr
  963. # [08:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1ad5d65bf44 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 655877 - Part 45: Note a crashtest that involves XBL as triggering assertions. r=longsonr
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  967. # [08:24] <@dbaron> Are we still shipping Universal binaries on OS X?
  968. # [08:24] <glandium> dbaron: yes
  969. # [08:24] <@dbaron> but we're no longer running any unit tests on the 32-bit halves of them?
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  971. # [08:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0c4fa25f637b - Mike Hommey - Bug 788463 - Import log4moz.js from resource:/// instead of resource://gre/. r=mdas
  972. # [08:24] <philor> correct
  973. # [08:24] <glandium> dbaron: indeed
  974. # [08:25] <philor> it's "not an immediate priority" or something like that
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  976. # [08:25] * philor looks forward to seeing the mismatch between what the release team meant by that and what releng will think it means
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  978. # [08:26] <philor> I'm guessing "four weeks is fine" and "INVALID after four years"
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  981. # [08:28] <@dbaron> Does 10.6 run on 32-bit-only machines?
  982. # [08:28] <philor> "get this going on a bit longer of a timeline given other priorities" - maybe that *is* agreement on "INVALID after four years"
  983. # [08:28] <@dbaron> or do we still need the whole universal binary for plugins even if we drop support for running on 32-bit machines?
  984. # [08:28] <philor> akeybl says yes, but not very many, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784465#c1
  985. # [08:30] <philor> I meant to look at whether we actually start up the 32 bit half to populate the startup cache, since that would slightly ally my concern that we don't even have the slightest idea whether or not it starts anymore
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  987. # [08:36] <capella> So would the first orange for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=ff19aab9d56c&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  988. # [08:36] <capella> (dead object) sounds related to bug 770516 and/or bug 770016
  989. # [08:36] <capella> but crosses environments linux -> mac
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  991. # [08:38] <glandium> dbaron: 10.6 runs on 32-bit-only machines
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  993. # [08:38] <Honza> What is the easiest way to find out that this patch is (or is not) in Nightly build - https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f2ba5257ab22
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  995. # [08:38] <glandium> philor: we don't populate startup cache for the 32-bits half
  996. # [08:38] <@dbaron> Honza, look at the .txt file next to the nightly or the about:buildconfig in it
  997. # [08:39] <glandium> dbaron: the 32-bits half can be needed for 32-bits plugins
  998. # [08:39] <@dbaron> Honza, then run "hg log 'ancestor(rev1,rev2)' to see which whether the cset you want is an ancestor of the nightly
  999. # [08:39] <philor> capella: for those thrashing around ipc things, I tend to just ask khuey, and he tells me it's still just that same thing, so I star practically anything as being 782505
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  1002. # [08:40] <Honza> dbaron: ah, thanks! I'll try it
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  1004. # [08:42] <capella> dom/devicestorage? Oh .... sees comment # 5 there ...
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  1009. # [08:48] <Ms2ger> Good morning, philor
  1010. # [08:48] * philor picks up the pace
  1011. # [08:48] <capella> dead object message caught my eye
  1012. # [08:48] <philor> good morning, Ms2ger
  1013. # [08:49] <Ms2ger> Do we have a bug for "Unable to ping tegra after 5 attempts"?
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  1015. # [08:49] <philor> with exactly that in the summary, I changed it this morning to match that changed message
  1016. # [08:50] <philor> bless his picky soul, edmorley fixed the previous "Unable to ping tegra after 5 try"
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  1018. # [08:53] <@dbaron> hmmm, red
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  1020. # [08:54] <capella> no sleep for 19 hours ... plane to catch in 12 ... gotta drop off now :P
  1021. # [08:54] * philor looks
  1022. # [08:54] <capella> philor thanks! I'll catch ya later...
  1023. # [08:54] <@dbaron> .../dist/idl/nsIZipWriter.idl: File exists
  1024. # [08:54] <@smaug> do we have any test plugin which can call JS
  1025. # [08:54] <philor> capella: thank you, good night
  1026. # [08:54] <@dbaron> philor, do we have a bug on random red of that form?
  1027. # [08:54] <capella> been fun ... ill get back
  1028. # [08:55] <Ms2ger> capella, have a good flight
  1029. # [08:55] <philor> dbaron: bugmail from glandium in the last few minutes about zipwriter racing
  1030. # [08:55] <capella> mozcamp !!! woohoo
  1031. # [08:55] <@dbaron> philor, have the bug# handy?
  1032. # [08:55] <@dbaron> philor, though this is generating nsIZipWriter.idl racing...
  1033. # [08:55] <@dbaron> philor, which sounds different
  1034. # [08:56] <philor> dbaron: bug 788954 - of course it's handy, I wouldn't have just archived it barely read...
  1035. # [08:56] <heycam> yeah I just found a bug about this nsIZipWriter.idl racing
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  1037. # [08:56] <philor> well, okay, I did archive it barely read, but I sort of remembered it being nsizipwriter.idl, that was just too many characters to type
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  1040. # [08:58] <glandium> dbaron: patch in the bug
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  1042. # [08:58] <@dbaron> glandium, and bug starred as a random red
  1043. # [08:58] <heycam> thanks
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  1063. # [09:22] <Ms2ger> philor, any chance I could bribe you into checking the last few failures on m-c? :)
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  1071. # [09:28] <glazou> bonjour
  1072. # [09:28] <philor> uh oh, now it's getting real
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  1076. # [09:30] <jviereck1> !seen jfkthame
  1077. # [09:30] <firebot> jfkthame was last seen 2 days, 9 hours, 31 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying 'yeah, in many cases it may not be worth it, but in principle it means that our "safety net" if we find problems with the new stuff, and need to pref it off during beta, may
  1078. # [09:30] <firebot> have been silently regressing in the meantime' in #gfx.
  1079. # [09:31] <@smaug> hyvää huomenta glazou
  1080. # [09:31] <jviereck1> is there someone else then jfkthame that might have an idea about fonts and direct2d issues?
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  1082. # [09:31] <philor> Ms2ger: behold, the power of a little poetic license
  1083. # [09:32] <glazou> kiitos smaug
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  1085. # [09:32] <@smaug> jviereck1: nattokirai
  1086. # [09:32] <philor> only had to file one of them
  1087. # [09:32] <jviereck1> nattokirai: *ping*
  1088. # [09:32] <Ms2ger> philor, \o/
  1089. # [09:32] <nattokirai> hey
  1090. # [09:33] <nattokirai> something about that printing bug...?
  1091. # [09:33] <jviereck1> nattokirai: yeah https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568
  1092. # [09:33] <jviereck1> that's the bug to make printout use webfonts as well
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  1094. # [09:33] <jviereck1> we need that for PDF.JS
  1095. # [09:33] <jviereck1> things are working except for windows IF direct2d is enabled
  1096. # [09:33] <nattokirai> well, we need it for printing anything with webfonts ;)
  1097. # [09:33] <jviereck1> then the printout looks crappy
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  1100. # [09:34] <nattokirai> has anyone dug into that?
  1101. # [09:34] <nattokirai> or that's what you're asking me? ;)
  1102. # [09:34] <jviereck1> nattokirai: I don't thinks so and I don't have a windows machine right now
  1103. # [09:34] <jviereck1> nattokirai: do you have any guess why printout fails if direct2d is enabled?
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  1105. # [09:34] <nattokirai> i can take a look tomorrow
  1106. # [09:34] <jviereck1> I mean, if we print, there shouldn't be anything direct2d related
  1107. # [09:35] <nattokirai> yeah, but the backends in cairo are different, no?
  1108. # [09:35] <jviereck1> but I was wondering, if we internally do some conversion to make things work when we are on direct2d but we don't want to do that when we are doing the printout
  1109. # [09:35] <nattokirai> i don't think it's a direct2d thing
  1110. # [09:35] <nattokirai> i think it's a gdi vs. directwrite backend thing
  1111. # [09:35] <nattokirai> if that means anything...
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  1113. # [09:36] <jviereck1> but I guess we use the same printing backend for printing no matter if direct2d is enabled in the browser or not
  1114. # [09:37] <nattokirai> i hardly ever look at the printing path
  1115. # [09:37] <jviereck1> that means, there needs to be something other going on once the direct2d is used, that is not really related to the cairo printing backend — but that's for sure all just wildly guesses
  1116. # [09:37] <nattokirai> but i'm assuming you'll be using gdi fonts vs. directwrite fonts
  1117. # [09:37] <jviereck1> no one has/wants to look at printing :(
  1118. # [09:37] <nattokirai> i want it to work... :P
  1119. # [09:38] <nattokirai> ok, lemme look at tomorrow
  1120. # [09:38] <jviereck1> don't we use the fonts with the free-type library and handle it over to cairo to do the job for us?
  1121. # [09:38] <nattokirai> is there a clear testcase that you're looking at described in the bug?
  1122. # [09:38] <jviereck1> awesome, thanks!
  1123. # [09:38] <nattokirai> not on windows we don't
  1124. # [09:38] <jviereck1> uggh
  1125. # [09:39] <jviereck1> nattofriends: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568#c125 describes the breakage if direct2d is enabled
  1126. # [09:39] <jviereck1> smaug: have you tested if you can reproduce the issue on your windows machine? ^^
  1127. # [09:40] <philor> nice, Ionmonkey merged an m-c rev that was later backed out "for burning the tree" despite a total lack of visible burning
  1128. # [09:40] <nattokirai> so the testcase is "print the webfontdemo page"?
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  1130. # [09:41] <nattokirai> with directwrite enabled?
  1131. # [09:42] <jviereck1> yes, you don't have to print it using a physical printer - using the windows XPS document writer also works, see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568#c146
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  1133. # [09:42] <jviereck1> guess any PDF printer should work then as well
  1134. # [09:42] <nattokirai> right, saw that
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  1141. # [09:44] <jviereck1> just added a small comment to the bug, such that the other people on my team know what we talked about
  1142. # [09:45] <jviereck1> nattokirai: thanks a lot for taking your time and looking into this :)
  1143. # [09:45] <nattokirai> you'll be around tomorrow around this time?
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  1148. # [09:47] <nattokirai> jviereck1: ^^
  1149. # [09:48] <jviereck1> nattokirai: I can if you want :)
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  1151. # [09:48] <nattokirai> ok, well i'll comment on the bug and we can take it from there...
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  1153. # [09:50] <Ms2ger> philor, good night
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  1164. # [09:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8d15eedf9ec - Ben Turner - Bug 782588 - 'mozBluetooth is not a singleton'. r=qDot.
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  1170. # [10:03] <heycam> dbaron, should https://hg.mozilla.org/try/file/724080afb49b/layout/reftests/svg/reftest.list#l17 work to set a pref for all tests within the included reftest.list?
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  1174. # [10:05] <@dbaron> heycam, I think the only working annotations on include are fails/random/skip [-if]
  1175. # [10:06] <@dbaron> heycam, based on my reading of ReadManifest in reftest.js
  1176. # [10:06] <heycam> dbaron, I see. should I try to make it worth? I'd rather not annotate each test in the subdirectory.
  1177. # [10:07] <@dbaron> heycam, maybe? It seems useful. Not sure how much work it would be.
  1178. # [10:07] <@dbaron> anyway, g'night
  1179. # [10:07] <heycam> bye
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  1197. # [10:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68092493156f - Ben Turner - Backout d8d15eedf9ec for build failures
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  1203. # [10:26] * NeilAway wonders whether we can detect mouse hover over text-overflow: ellipsis and show a tooltip
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  1206. # [10:31] <Optimizer1> NeilAway: yes we can
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  1208. # [10:32] <@smaug> does JS have some catch all getter
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  1210. # [10:33] <Ms2ger> smaug, I think that needs proxies, if I understand what you want correctly :)
  1211. # [10:33] <@smaug> ah, right
  1212. # [10:33] <@smaug> proxies, yes
  1213. # [10:34] <@smaug> sicking will be horrified of my proposal...
  1214. # [10:34] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a plus
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  1216. # [10:37] <Ms2ger> Good morning, edmorley :)
  1217. # [10:39] <edmorley> good morning :-)
  1218. # [10:39] <Ms2ger> Don'tlookatm-cdon'tlookatm-cdon'tlookatm-c
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  1220. # [10:44] <glandium> Ms2ger: congratulation, you removed bits of the build system that are there since the very first cvs commit
  1221. # [10:44] <glandium> s/are/were/
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  1223. # [10:45] <NeilAway> first cvs commit? whoa
  1224. # [10:46] <glandium> yeah, and there aren't a lot left
  1225. # [10:47] <glandium> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1807003
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  1234. # [11:01] <kk1fff> mounir: ping
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  1239. # [11:08] <glandium> philor|away, edmorley: 788917
  1240. # [11:09] <glandium> philor|away, edmorley: 788917 started after 784262 landed, right?
  1241. # [11:10] <edmorley> glandium: yes
  1242. # [11:11] <edmorley> first occurence m-c e00f615159f1
  1243. # [11:11] <glandium> edmorley: then my comment is most probably true
  1244. # [11:11] <glandium> which means there's also a bug in pymake
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  1248. # [11:14] <glandium> edmorley: oh wait, it's win64... that's gnu make
  1249. # [11:14] <glandium> ah no, it's w32 builds
  1250. # [11:16] <glandium> edmorley: fwiw, filed 788971
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  1253. # [11:17] <edmorley> glandium: thank you :-)
  1254. # [11:19] <@smaug> hmm, if I have union { void* foo, bool bar } and I set foo to some value, what would .bar give me..
  1255. # [11:20] <glandium> smaug: depends on the value of foo
  1256. # [11:20] <baku> probably this: (bool)foo;
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  1259. # [11:22] <@smaug> baku: yeah, I'm a bit worried that might be the case
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  1264. # [11:32] <@roc> I bet that's undefined
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  1266. # [11:34] <@roc> I had a nifty bug recently where I had code that did "a ? CONSTX : CONSTY" where 'a' was declared as a bool but due to uninitialized variable issues, it had the value 123. CONSTX happened to be 0 and CONSTY happened to be 1. So the compiler had optimized away the expression entirely and just returned the value of 'a', i.e. 123
  1267. # [11:34] <@roc> so if you do that union thing and then use 'bar' in certain ways you could get surprising results
  1268. # [11:34] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/happy-bmo-push-day-12/
  1269. # [11:35] <NeilAway> glandium: oh, that's just in rules.mk? still, impressive
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  1273. # [11:37] <glandium> NeilAway: like export, but only for idls
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  1275. # [11:37] <glandium> pretty useless, if you ask me
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  1281. # [11:47] <Ms2ger> glandium, \o/
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  1285. # [11:56] <AutomatedTester> smaug: hey, do you know if there is a bug for Resource Timing Spec implementation?
  1286. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> bz^
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  1288. # [11:58] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: I think there is
  1289. # [11:58] <AutomatedTester> smaug: my bugzilla-fu is failing me in finding it :/
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  1291. # [11:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5fa67284f4fb - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_13b2_RELEASE for changeset FIREFOX_16_0b2_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
  1292. # [11:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3961019a085e - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_13b2_BUILD1 for changeset FIREFOX_16_0b2_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
  1293. # [11:59] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: hmm, I can't find the bug either
  1294. # [11:59] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: file a new bug
  1295. # [12:00] <AutomatedTester> ok cool
  1296. # [12:00] <AutomatedTester> smaug: thanks!
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  1299. # [12:04] <AutomatedTester> smaug: would you like to be cc'ed on the bug?
  1300. # [12:04] <@smaug> not really. I don't particularly like those timing specs :)
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  1313. # [12:16] <mounir> kk1fff: pong
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  1317. # [12:23] <Ms2ger> philor|away, capella, sheriffs, I started https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Android-orange, btw
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  1319. # [12:24] <@smaug> modifying nsISupportsImpl.h is annoying
  1320. # [12:25] <janv> rebuilding whole world ?
  1321. # [12:25] <Ms2ger> Try nscore.h
  1322. # [12:26] <capella> noted :)
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  1325. # [12:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/789680f57083 - Jim Blandy - Bug 788586: When inferring display names, handle numeric literals better. r=acrichto
  1326. # [12:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b064789c1758 - Jim Blandy - Bug 778586: When inferring display names, handle property names that are not valid identifier names. r=acrichto
  1327. # [12:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49ca4e7be55f - Jim Blandy - Bug 788586: Don't drop "prototype" from inferred display names. r=acrichto
  1328. # [12:30] <kk1fff> mounir: Hi, I am trying to reproduce bug 787517. Just to make sure if I understand the bug correctly. Do you mean an exception is thrown when removing iframe and makes those tests fail?
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  1330. # [12:32] <mounir> kk1fff: I saw your comment
  1331. # [12:32] <mounir> it seems that you are seeing what I saw
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  1333. # [12:32] <mounir> IIRC, the result of the error depends of the iframe being in process or OOP
  1334. # [12:32] <mounir> but it's only from memory so I might be wrong
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  1336. # [12:34] <kk1fff> mounir: Got it. Thank you.
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  1339. # [12:37] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I guess you get to file those test_addCorrectType.htmls too :/
  1340. # [12:38] <ZER0> hi there, if I modified only XUL and CSS files on mozilla-central, is there a way to rebuild only the "chrome" part of Firefox instead of all of it?
  1341. # [12:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah :-/
  1342. # [12:38] <edmorley> though same on two platforms...
  1343. # [12:39] <edmorley> Ms2ger: and thank you for the etherpad
  1344. # [12:39] <Ms2ger> Np, I hate bugzilla :)
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  1346. # [12:40] <paul> ZER0: make -C objdir/browser
  1347. # [12:40] <glandium> ZER0: make -C objdir chrome
  1348. # [12:40] <Ms2ger> "reawaken old oranges"
  1349. # [12:41] <@smaug> you might need to make toolkit too if your files are there
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  1351. # [12:41] <paul> glandium: what does that do?
  1352. # [12:41] <ZER0> paul, glandium thanks!
  1353. # [12:41] <glandium> paul: it builds chrome
  1354. # [12:41] <Ms2ger> Oh
  1355. # [12:41] <Ms2ger> But he wanted Firefox
  1356. # [12:41] * Ms2ger runs
  1357. # [12:42] <paul> glandium: you mean… it just builds the jar files?
  1358. # [12:42] <glandium> paul: yup
  1359. # [12:42] <Ms2ger> edmorley, also, bug 789000, nice :)
  1360. # [12:42] <@smaug> glandium: interesting
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  1362. # [12:43] <glandium> despite being full of awful things, our build system does have nice features
  1363. # [12:43] <glandium> underknown, apparently
  1364. # [12:43] <paul> I guess it doesn't repackage Firefox.app (make -C browser/app)
  1365. # [12:43] <edmorley> Ms2ger: heh, yeah noticed that... maybe I can get the big one too in a few weeks/months? :-)
  1366. # [12:44] <glandium> paul: it doesn't
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  1368. # [12:44] <capella> had an issue in mobile ... qpoping a patch built with jar file changes then next builds fail without clobber
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  1370. # [12:44] <glandium> paul: but that's one of the awful things of our build system
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  1372. # [12:45] <glandium> paul: that will change, eventually
  1373. # [12:45] <paul> ok
  1374. # [12:45] <Ms2ger> Everything will change, eventually
  1375. # [12:46] <Ms2ger> In particular, make -C
  1376. # [12:46] <glandium> true
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  1378. # [12:48] <Optimizer> how to copy an image to clipboard via JS ?
  1379. # [12:48] * Ms2ger looks at bug 784262, is reminded how horrible make looks
  1380. # [12:48] <Optimizer> do I just addDataFlavor as image/png, and then setTransferData as the base64 string of image ?
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  1386. # [12:55] <edmorley> capella: mq now has an ignore working directory changes when popping and pushing (latest hg release), maybe you can use that to your advantage?
  1387. # [12:55] <edmorley> s/changes/changes option,/
  1388. # [12:56] <capella> doesnt follow that ...
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  1391. # [12:58] <edmorley> capella: perhaps we could script something that disassociates certain files from their mq, so when you use the 2.3 new mq feature --keep-changes, you don't touch the files so don't need clobber, maybe?
  1392. # [12:59] <edmorley> a lot of effort for something that should be doable built-in tbh
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  1394. # [12:59] <capella> i had wanted to qpop a patch and see if a problem i detected went away / was caused by the patch
  1395. # [12:59] <edmorley> s/doable/already/
  1396. # [12:59] <capella> but the build failed apparantly due to jar file changes I was assuming werent rebuilt / undone from the patch
  1397. # [12:59] <edmorley> ok
  1398. # [13:00] <capella> so if anything i thought i needed a touch something that wasnt being redone... ?
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  1400. # [13:01] <capella> (if all that makes sense)
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  1403. # [13:03] <capella> and since this was the first time id seen that situation and the first time I had jar file changes ... i jumped to the conclusion
  1404. # [13:03] <capella> I guess no one else has bumped into this
  1405. # [13:03] <NeilAway> glob|away: whoa, 69447
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  1408. # [13:04] <edmorley> capella: sorry, I misunderstood the problem
  1409. # [13:05] <capella> B) thanks for trying !
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  1415. # [13:08] <edmorley> capella: I thought you meant the "trying to reshuffle mqs, where the net result is a no-op, but the act of popping and pushing changes the modified time of the files" use case
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  1419. # [13:09] <capella> oh - yah ! no, i've figured that out :)
  1420. # [13:09] <capella> I think cause my jar changes had overrides pointing to new files in the patch somehow the qpop / rebuild gets confused
  1421. # [13:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e5bffe88e184 - Ed Morley - Backout ea472ffba523 & ae4a4bfde41e (bug 786922) for causing bug 789008
  1422. # [13:10] <NeilAway> Optimizer: I think you might need to use an input stream of data
  1423. # [13:10] <Optimizer> not a transferable object ?
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  1425. # [13:11] <NeilAway> Optimizer: you said base64 string
  1426. # [13:11] <Optimizer> that is a normal string
  1427. # [13:11] <NeilAway> Optimizer: but I have this vague memory that images use streams
  1428. # [13:11] <Optimizer> an image can be represented as strings
  1429. # [13:11] <Optimizer> string*
  1430. # [13:11] <NeilAway> Optimizer: sure, but I think the clipboard expects a stream
  1431. # [13:11] <Optimizer> it is totally experimental, I am trying it out to see what happenes
  1432. # [13:12] <Optimizer> nowhere documented
  1433. # [13:12] <Optimizer> on mdn
  1434. # [13:12] <Optimizer> even the transferable page is missing :(
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  1437. # [13:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/128b4ccd8d21 - Jan Beich - Bug 788414 - DragonFly target doesn't use BSD suffix in `uname -s`. r=landry
  1438. # [13:14] <NeilAway> Optimizer: ok, so I checked and you can paste an image into the html editor but it has to be a file or an input stream
  1439. # [13:14] <Optimizer> NeilAway: ok I get this exception : [Exception... "Could not convert JavaScript argument arg 1 [nsITransferable.setTransferData]" nsresult: "0x80570009 (NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS)"]
  1440. # [13:14] <Optimizer> how to convert the dataURI to input stream ?
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  1443. # [13:14] <Optimizer> and what should be the dataFlavor ?
  1444. # [13:15] <NeilAway> Optimizer: "image/png" I guess
  1445. # [13:15] <Optimizer> I am using that only
  1446. # [13:15] <NeilAway> Optimizer: and I assume you need a StringInputStream
  1447. # [13:15] <Optimizer> so just the data that I am adding should be an input stream
  1448. # [13:15] <Optimizer> NeilAway: ok thanks :)
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  1451. # [13:17] <Optimizer> NeilAway: it gets copied, but I am unable to paste it now , information on clipboard cannot be pasted into paint :P
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  1453. # [13:20] <NeilAway> Optimizer: hmm, it looks like the widget code wants an imgIContainer object
  1454. # [13:20] <NeilAway> Optimizer: so the data type is different when copying out than when copying in, or something :s
  1455. # [13:20] <Optimizer> weird
  1456. # [13:21] * NeilAway isn't quite sure how that works
  1457. # [13:21] <Optimizer> I tried using ioService new URI
  1458. # [13:21] <Optimizer> could not paste
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  1461. # [13:22] <NeilAway> Optimizer: bug 750108 has some code that might work
  1462. # [13:23] <NeilAway> Optimizer: (comment 17 for the working version)
  1463. # [13:23] <Optimizer> man ou are awesome, how do you get them so fast, I almost searched the whole mxr to get reference to how the context menu copy image works and it was all in cpp, so could not get the idea :P
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  1466. # [13:25] <Optimizer> NeilAway: Yes it works now :)
  1467. # [13:25] <Optimizer> although I cannot paste it to MS Word, only paint/photoshop
  1468. # [13:25] <Optimizer> and other image editors
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  1470. # [13:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/844b142d8111 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 783523 - Fix platform-specific nsresult misuse; r=ehsan,tbsaunde,smaug
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  1484. # [13:46] <AryehGregor> So, I don't have a lot of nsresult work left to do.
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  1486. # [13:46] <AryehGregor> What next? :)
  1487. # [13:46] * AryehGregor solicits suggestions from Ms2ger
  1488. # [13:46] <Ms2ger> Mmm
  1489. # [13:46] <Ms2ger> Fix CSS
  1490. # [13:46] <edmorley> AryehGregor: editor2/ ? :-)
  1491. # [13:46] <AryehGregor> Anything in particular about CSS?
  1492. # [13:46] <Ms2ger> edmorley, editer
  1493. # [13:47] <Ms2ger> I would suggest table layout, but I'm afraid you'd just do it
  1494. # [13:47] <edmorley> would go nicely with netwerk
  1495. # [13:47] <AryehGregor> I'm working very few hours a week now, so I'm looking for something that doesn't require too much in the way of real coding or "please fix this regression you caused before we ship a broken Facebook to a billion users".
  1496. # [13:47] <AryehGregor> I was thinking maybe I should just write tests for DOM4.
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  1498. # [13:48] <Ms2ger> That's always nice
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  1500. # [13:49] <Ms2ger> jgraham is going to try to get people to do that at ttwf, fwiw
  1501. # [13:49] <AryehGregor> How useful do you expect the results to be?
  1502. # [13:50] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, why are your DOM4 tests not in approved/?
  1503. # [13:50] <AryehGregor> I thought we rigged the policy so DOM4 editors are allowed to unilaterally approve tests.
  1504. # [13:50] <Ms2ger> Probably not very useful
  1505. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> We might very well have, I guess I can move them
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  1507. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> (Mozzarella Foxfire... *want*)
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  1509. # [13:53] * AryehGregor starts filing Gecko bugs on interfaces.html failures
  1510. # [13:53] <Ms2ger> Mm
  1511. # [13:53] <Ms2ger> Most of those are just going to get fixed with the new bindings
  1512. # [13:53] <Ms2ger> Dunno if individual bugs are useful
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  1515. # [13:56] <AryehGregor> Ah, good point.
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  1518. # [13:56] <AryehGregor> NodeList uses the new bindings, right? So I can file bugs on that?
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  1522. # [13:57] <@smaug> yes, it should use new binding or old-new bindings
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  1524. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> The old-new bindings, still
  1525. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> But the new-new bindings are waiting on review
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  1527. # [13:59] <Unfocused> this is why we don't let engineers name things
  1528. # [13:59] <@smaug> new bindings are Paris bindings, and that is a nice name :)
  1529. # [14:00] <Ms2ger> Unfocused, :)
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  1532. # [14:03] <AryehGregor> Wait, so should I file binding-related bugs on NodeList or not?
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  1536. # [14:04] <AryehGregor> Also, what's the preferred place to get a copy of resources/ from these days?
  1537. # [14:04] <@smaug> AryehGregor: I think you should, and someone should then check whether Paris bindings fix that problem
  1538. # [14:04] <AryehGregor> Okay.
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  1541. # [14:05] * AryehGregor guesses hg clone https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/resources
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  1543. # [14:05] <AryehGregor> Are there any other interfaces that use the new bindings?
  1544. # [14:06] <@smaug> Paris bindings?
  1545. # [14:06] <@smaug> XHR, performance
  1546. # [14:06] <@smaug> hmm, did .style land? or canvascontext?
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  1549. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> smaug, style
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  1551. # [14:11] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, also, canvas2D, webgl
  1552. # [14:11] <Ms2ger> See dom/webidl/WebIDL.mk
  1553. # [14:11] * AryehGregor sticks to NodeList for now
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  1574. # [14:27] <edmorley> Ms2ger: beat me to it :-)
  1575. # [14:27] <edmorley> thank ypu
  1576. # [14:27] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
  1577. # [14:28] <edmorley> reftest android orange
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  1598. # [14:44] <Standard8> has someone changed the colour of orange on tbpl? I can hardly distinguish it from red...
  1599. # [14:44] <Ms2ger> Not afaict
  1600. # [14:45] <Standard8> maybe its just the light in here
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  1609. # [14:50] <Callek> Standard8: fyi you're using an outdated clang ver for Mac in TB right now
  1610. # [14:50] <Callek> Standard8: my theory is that you want to add mail/config/tooltool stuff to the check-sync-dirs with browser/config/tooltool
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  1612. # [14:50] <Standard8> Callek: bah, I thought we had check-sync-dirs for that
  1613. # [14:50] <Standard8> ah
  1614. # [14:50] <Standard8> ok
  1615. # [14:50] <Callek> Standard8: since we install clang from tooltool
  1616. # [14:51] <Callek> Standard8: rs+=me for that change, if you want :-)
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  1618. # [14:52] <glazou> from time to time, a day is totally unproductive, for various reasons ; this is such a day for me today :-/ pffff
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  1620. # [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62aeb6b5db75 - DĂŁo Gottwald - Bug 789010 - Use the PageThumbs API to get tab previews for tabs that aren't loaded yet. r=ttaubert
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  1625. # [14:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9677eb19a6a5 - Mike Hommey - Bug 788954 - Remove export-idl rule. r=ted
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  1636. # [15:03] <NeilAway> glandium: heh, so I see how useless export-idl is then ;-)
  1637. # [15:03] <glandium> NeilAway: it turns out it was never added for humans to use
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  1639. # [15:04] <glandium> NeilAway: bug 150088, if you're curious
  1640. # [15:05] <@ted> with a bug number < 200k it has to be good
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  1642. # [15:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7ba553cf616d - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 783971 - [gcli] GCLI popup not appearing at its correct position r=jwalker a=akeybl
  1643. # [15:06] <NeilAway> heh
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  1651. # [15:12] <edmorley> Standard8: colours haven't been changed for yonks (patch pending buildbit review to add a new colour for cancellations, but that's it)
  1652. # [15:13] <edmorley> s/bit/bot/
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  1665. # [15:23] <jlebar> glob|away, "[69447] Make CC changes not cause midairs" \o/
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  1668. # [15:23] <zzzzz> edmorley: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789033
  1669. # [15:24] <mccr8> jlebar: I feel like I should attempt midair myself over a CC in celebration.
  1670. # [15:25] <@ted> that's like a self-high-five
  1671. # [15:25] <@ted> 5^ ^5
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  1674. # [15:25] <jlebar> ted, So we should go midair glob|away? :)
  1675. # [15:25] <@ted> hah\
  1676. # [15:25] <@ted> but seriously that's awesome
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  1678. # [15:26] <mccr8> ted: hah yeah I should remember that when I midair myself, it will make me feel better.
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  1699. # [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/020e41f3acbe - Patrick Wang - Bug 775464 - Part 1: Add nsILoadContext::GetTopFrameElement. r=smaug
  1700. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f45ea30520b6 - Patrick Wang - Bug 775464 - Part 2: Fire event to mozbrowser embedder from parent on receiving HTTP auth request. r=jlebar
  1701. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48ae6c0a626c - Patrick Wang - Bug 775464 - Test case r=jlebar
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  1704. # [15:40] <edmorley> zzzzz: commented in the bug, needs more info before it is actionable
  1705. # [15:41] <zzzzz> yeah, I know - I don't have time today to triage m-i to find the culprit :(
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  1707. # [15:41] <gcp> Bug 789036 looks like major PITA to me.
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  1709. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> Neat
  1710. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> And pretty expected
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  1717. # [15:49] <@smaug> nsrefcnt mRefCnt : 31; doesn't look too ugly, right :)
  1718. # [15:49] <glandium> jlebar: what's the ultimate goal for bug 788021?
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  1722. # [15:50] <jlebar> glandium, Be able to run a command from your desktop box which will pull down from the device an about:memory dump from every gecko process.
  1723. # [15:50] <glandium> jlebar: wouldn't it make sense to use the remote debugging protocol?
  1724. # [15:50] <glandium> jlebar: we're moving from signals to that for the profiler
  1725. # [15:51] <jlebar> glandium, Maybe? I have no idea how the remote debugging protocol works.
  1726. # [15:51] <glandium> jlebar: ask past
  1727. # [15:51] <BenWa|sms> jlebar: It's just simple JSON objects sent over TCP
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  1729. # [15:52] <jlebar> BenWa, Okay...this is a JSON object, so so far, so good...
  1730. # [15:52] <BenWa> jlebar: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Remote_Debugging_Protocol
  1731. # [15:53] <past> seems like a good fit for the remote protocol
  1732. # [15:53] <glandium> jlebar: see the patch in bug 751034
  1733. # [15:54] <jlebar> Wow, this is not extremely complicated at all...
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  1735. # [15:54] <past> maybe even for a gcli command that gets the data using the remote protocol
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  1738. # [15:55] <glandium> past: btw, there's some fun surprises that come from marionette using the debugger server... it starts it on port 2828, and subsequently starting it on port 6000 fails.
  1739. # [15:55] <glandium> and b2g has marionette enabled by default
  1740. # [15:55] <glandium> (which, imho, is a bug, in itself)
  1741. # [15:56] <past> yeah, we have a bug on file to make marionette and the debugger play nice together
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  1743. # [15:56] <past> currently you need to enable one or the other
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  1746. # [15:57] <glandium> past: actually, except for the fact that it runs on port 2828, it looks like it works
  1747. # [15:58] <past> yeah, it's the socket listening part that needs fixing
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  1758. # [16:07] <glandium> BenWa, past: did either of you have other code than what is in lib/remote.js to use the remote debugging protocol for the profiler?
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  1760. # [16:07] <jlebar> past, Is it possible to interact with the remote profiler not through JS?
  1761. # [16:07] <jlebar> past, One concern we've had is the memory usage of dumping about:memory, which is substantial.
  1762. # [16:08] <past> glandium: not me
  1763. # [16:08] <jlebar> past, The file is ~1mb of text.
  1764. # [16:08] <jlebar> past, I guess we could use the remote debugger protocol to poke the process into dumping the about:memory data to a text file, that way all that text doesn't go through JS.
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  1768. # [16:09] <past> jlebar: that sounds doable. Is the concern that transmitting the data will affect the measurement or that it will be slow to transfer?
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  1770. # [16:10] <jlebar> past, The former, mostly.
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  1772. # [16:10] <past> we have a stream-like API for the latter, but I'm not sure how to fix the former
  1773. # [16:10] <past> can't we get a gecko API that stores the data somewhere temporarily, before we copy them to JS?
  1774. # [16:11] <past> would TypedArrays help?
  1775. # [16:11] <jlebar> past, Really just don't want to shove this data into JS if I don't have to.
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  1777. # [16:12] <jlebar> past, For example, we want to be able to poke a process which is basically out of memory and get its memory dump. If I need even 5mb to generate a dump, that's a problem on these phones.
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  1779. # [16:12] <past> I can imagine how OOM situations would be problematic. If that is the main use case you would either have to write a C++ version of the protocol, or do it some other way
  1780. # [16:13] <past> your signal idea seems reasonable for that
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  1783. # [16:14] <BenWa> glandium: No, I've been waiting on the feature being ready to improve the extension
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  1787. # [16:15] <BenWa> past: Any ETA on that? I've been punting on some improvements/bugs hoping that we could get the profiler actor up soon
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  1789. # [16:16] <sheppy> What are the best IRC channel and forum for people to talk about WebRTC?
  1790. # [16:16] <past> BenWa: unless jimb has any serious objections this is ready to land
  1791. # [16:16] <Ms2ger> sheppy, people talk about webrtc?
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  1793. # [16:16] <glandium> sheppy: #media or something like that
  1794. # [16:16] <Ms2ger> AIUI, they communicate in code dumps
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  1797. # [16:17] <BenWa> Excellent
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  1799. # [16:17] <glandium> BenWa: i'm testing it, fwiw (that is, i'm hacking something ugly in the addon)
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  1802. # [16:18] <BenWa> glandium: cjones couldn't get profiling on b2g yesterday and I couldn't help him from the log alone, if you know how to get it working you hsould let him know
  1803. # [16:20] <glandium> BenWa: it works out of the box for me. just the symbolication problem we talked about the other day
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  1805. # [16:21] <BenWa> glandium: which one was that? cjones said it was stalling on 'symbolication…'
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  1808. # [16:22] <glandium> BenWa: the path being wrong, but i never stalled on symbolication
  1809. # [16:22] <BenWa> alright =\
  1810. # [16:23] <firebot> Check-in:
  1811. # [16:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c12db325f863 - Josh Aas - Bug 405407: Merge nsDiskCacheStreamIO and nsDiskCacheStreamOutput. Patch originally by Alfred Kayser, updated by Josh Aas, final fix from Michal Novotny. r=michal
  1812. # [16:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42777635165a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 579517 follow-up: Remove NSPR types that crept in
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  1815. # [16:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ee117877c93 - Ben Turner - Bug 782588 - 'mozBluetooth is not a singleton'. r=qDot.
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  1822. # [16:29] <glandium> BenWa: oh i just got a stalling symbolication by pressing "start", maybe that's what he got?
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  1825. # [16:31] <glandium> past: "Error: 'startProfiler' request packet has no destination." what can be going wrong?
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  1827. # [16:31] <past> no 'to' property in the packet
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  1833. # [16:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe317c21b749 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 742144. Implement support for typedefs in WebIDL. r=khuey
  1834. # [16:35] <glandium> past: mmmm looks like i'm not getting the profiler actor with the code stolen from open_conn in lib/remote.js
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  1837. # [16:37] <past> does init() or open_conn() fail for some reason?
  1838. # [16:38] <glandium> past: i'm not doing init()
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  1841. # [16:38] <glandium> past: i'm on the desktop. the b2g part takes care of registring the actor
  1842. # [16:39] <glandium> past: but i stole the code from open_conn to connect to the profiler actor
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  1845. # [16:39] <past> do you get a profiler actor property in the listTabs request?
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  1847. # [16:40] <glandium> past: nope :(
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  1849. # [16:40] <glandium> past: {"from":"root","selected":0,"tabs":[{"actor":"conn5.tab2","url":"chrome://browser/content/shell.xul"}]}
  1850. # [16:40] <glandium> that's what i get
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  1852. # [16:40] <past> did you add the profiler actors in the b2g code?
  1853. # [16:41] <past> this line: DebuggerServer.addActors("chrome://global/content/devtools/dbg-profiler-actors.js");
  1854. # [16:41] <past> hm, does that URL work in B2G?
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  1857. # [16:44] <glandium> past: yes, i did (this is when i found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751034#c32
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  1860. # [16:46] <decoder> ehsan: im sorry, the asan failures you just added arent intermittent failures
  1861. # [16:46] <decoder> i was just using [orange] wrong
  1862. # [16:46] <decoder> ill revert that for my own bugs ok?
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  1864. # [16:46] <@ehsan> decoder: ok, can you please remove them both?
  1865. # [16:47] <decoder> sure
  1866. # [16:47] <decoder> sorry again
  1867. # [16:47] <@ehsan> decoder: ty
  1868. # [16:47] <@ehsan> decoder: np at all! :)
  1869. # [16:47] <@ted> decoder: so if i have suspected heap corruption on mac, i could use asan to track it down?
  1870. # [16:48] <@ted> valgrind is kind of slow
  1871. # [16:48] <@ted> also i don't have a suppression file for mac and there are a zillion errors
  1872. # [16:48] <decoder> ted: yes you can do that
  1873. # [16:48] <past> glandium: ugh, I think I see the problem. The patch in bug 753401 needs some additional changes for b2g and fennec in order to be useful there
  1874. # [16:49] <decoder> ted: but I only have a macosx debug build. no opt build because try + mac nightly doesnt like me
  1875. # [16:49] <@ted> decoder: oh, this is on alder anyway
  1876. # [16:49] <past> glandium: let me see if I can give you an updated patch to try out
  1877. # [16:49] <@ted> i'd have to build my own
  1878. # [16:50] <decoder> ted: in that case https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Building_Firefox_with_Address_Sanitizer
  1879. # [16:50] <decoder> or what is alder?
  1880. # [16:50] <@ted> okay
  1881. # [16:50] <@ted> alder is the webrtc integration branch
  1882. # [16:50] <decoder> oh ok :)
  1883. # [16:50] <decoder> can you push that to try?
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  1885. # [16:50] <@ted> yeah
  1886. # [16:51] <decoder> then the try manual my work for you in that mdn article
  1887. # [16:51] <@ted> oh, nice
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  1889. # [16:51] <@ted> thanks
  1890. # [16:51] <decoder> i just noticed that my osx job isnt working, ill check if it's not actually broken right now
  1891. # [16:51] <decoder> if you run into any trouble just ping me
  1892. # [16:51] <decoder> np
  1893. # [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de6286cb4539 - Ben Turner - Bug 782588 - 'mozBluetooth is not a singleton'. Add missing include.
  1894. # [16:52] * decoder noticed he disabled the macosx cronjob by accident
  1895. # [16:52] <decoder> way to go decoder
  1896. # [16:53] <@ted> decoder: my tree already has a browser/config/tooltool-manifests/macosx64/releng.manifest
  1897. # [16:53] <@ted> (and no clang.manifest)
  1898. # [16:53] <decoder> ted: yea
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  1900. # [16:53] <decoder> then you can just use that
  1901. # [16:53] <@ted> okay
  1902. # [16:53] <decoder> since macosx is already using clang now, you dont need to copy that file anymore i guess
  1903. # [16:54] <@ted> handy
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  1912. # [17:01] <past> glandium: does adding this patch fix things for you? http://past.pastebin.mozilla.org/1807393
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  1916. # [17:05] <glandium> past: that seems to work
  1917. # [17:05] <glandium> {"from":"root","selected":0,"tabs":[{"actor":"conn1.tab2","url":"chrome://browser/content/shell.xul"}],"profilerActor":"conn1.profiler3"}
  1918. # [17:05] <past> ok, thanks, I'll post the patch for review
  1919. # [17:05] <glandium> thanks
  1920. # [17:05] <mbrubeck> catlee: Thanks for fixing bug 752002!
  1921. # [17:06] <past> glandium: are you by any chance doing the same for Fennec as well?
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  1923. # [17:07] <glandium> past: i'll be testing later, yeah
  1924. # [17:07] <past> ok, I'll get you another patch for Fennec then
  1925. # [17:08] <sid0> I'm going to merge glandium's fix to mozilla-inbound
  1926. # [17:08] <glandium> past: that patch only works for b2g? O_o
  1927. # [17:09] <catlee> mbrubeck: you're welcome!
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  1929. # [17:09] <sid0> glandium: that was a nasty bug in pymake!
  1930. # [17:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9677eb19a6a5 - Mike Hommey - Bug 788954 - Remove export-idl rule. r=ted
  1931. # [17:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbff58387e66 - Siddharth Agarwal - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound.
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  1933. # [17:09] <sid0> thanks for finding it
  1934. # [17:10] <past> glandium: yes, b2g and Fennec override the base browser actors and I need to make a similar change for both
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  1939. # [17:13] <decoder> xpidl.IDLError: error: File 'domstubs.idl' not found, /builds/slave/try-osx64-dbg/build/dom/interfaces/events/nsIDOMEvent.idl line 6:0
  1940. # [17:13] <decoder> is this a known failure on mac?
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  1943. # [17:15] <@smaug> um, didn't someone change PARALLEL thingie in dom/interfaces
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  1945. # [17:16] <jimm> glandium: I just merged mc over to elm. should have you patches that landed this morning.
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  1947. # [17:16] <decoder> smaug: yea looks like 786703
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  1955. # [17:18] <decoder> froydnj: ping
  1956. # [17:18] <@ehsan> bbondy: ping
  1957. # [17:18] <bbondy> ehsan: hey
  1958. # [17:19] <@ehsan> bbondy: hey, you made my eyes bleed just now! http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/updater/archivereader.cpp?force=1#18
  1959. # [17:19] <bbondy> seen the reviews
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  1961. # [17:19] <@ehsan> why did we do this?!
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  1963. # [17:20] <bbondy> we don't link to this from updater code
  1964. # [17:20] <sid0> :o
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  1966. # [17:21] <@ehsan> hmm
  1967. # [17:21] <@ehsan> bbondy: what does UPDATER_NO_STRING_GLUE_STL mean?
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  1969. # [17:21] <bbondy> it means no #include "nsStringGlue.h" and it is from updater code :)
  1970. # [17:22] <bbondy> otherwise you get a compiling error I don't remember which, but something like no internal string implementationa llowed
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  1972. # [17:22] <bbondy> and we wanted to reuse these exact version comparison functions to avoid any bugs
  1973. # [17:23] <froydnj> decoder: pong
  1974. # [17:23] <@ehsan> bbondy: hmm, bug nsVersionComparator.cpp doesn't use any xpcom string stuff as far as I can see :)
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  1976. # [17:23] <sid0> bbondy: why not move those fns to a header file?
  1977. # [17:23] <@ehsan> I mean, we could just rip out that include...
  1978. # [17:23] <decoder> froydnj: i just got a build failure on try with domstubs.idl
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  1981. # [17:25] <froydnj> decoder: ok, cool. retriggering the build should be sufficient to fix it
  1982. # [17:25] <bbondy> I'm not sure if the include is really needed but it was there, ya we could move the functions into a header file. There are a couple other places where we include .cpp files directly into updater code historically btw.
  1983. # [17:25] <decoder> froydnj: when is this going to be patched? those are automated builds
  1984. # [17:25] <decoder> breaking automated builds isnt making me happy ._.
  1985. # [17:26] <@ehsan> bbondy: r=you if I take out that header and the defines?
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  1987. # [17:26] <bbondy> as long as it still compiles ya that's fine
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  1991. # [17:28] <froydnj> decoder: I was curious to see how common this failure was and if there were more like it
  1992. # [17:28] <decoder> froydnj: well it seems common enough to break important cron jobs
  1993. # [17:28] <decoder> so please either fix it, or back it out
  1994. # [17:28] <decoder> thanks :)
  1995. # [17:28] <froydnj> decoder: I think you and I have different definitions of "common" :)
  1996. # [17:29] <decoder> whats yours? :)
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  1998. # [17:29] <froydnj> something involving a sample size > 1
  1999. # [17:30] <froydnj> anyway
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  2002. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> Hmm, LaTeX integers seem to suck with pdf.js
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  2004. # [17:30] <yury> Ms2ger: why you say that? :)
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  2007. # [17:31] <Ms2ger> yury, I was looking at http://arxiv.org/pdf/1206.5078v2.pdf, and they go too far down
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  2009. # [17:31] <Ms2ger> Same for \Sum and \{\}
  2010. # [17:31] <decoder> froydnj: i just resent the build to try
  2011. # [17:31] <decoder> same failure
  2012. # [17:32] <decoder> froydnj: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/choller@mozilla.com-0959e7a01c33/try-macosx64-debug/try-macosx64-debug-bm31-try1-build7055.txt.gz
  2013. # [17:32] <froydnj> decoder: neat. you apparently have a talent for beating the odds. I suggest you go to vegas :)
  2014. # [17:32] <yury> Ms2ger: any particular page, http://arxiv.org/pdf/1206.5078v2.pdf#page=4&zoom=177,0,678 looks good to me
  2015. # [17:32] <decoder> froydnj: no, im probably just using a compiler with a different timing
  2016. # [17:32] <bjacob> hey
  2017. # [17:33] <decoder> froydnj: this is clang+asan, it might be a little slower than regular clang building
  2018. # [17:33] <bjacob> how can I get the profile directory? is there an env var?
  2019. # [17:33] <bjacob> Ms2ger: ^
  2020. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> yury, formula 1.2 for example
  2021. # [17:33] <froydnj> decoder: probably not much different than gcc
  2022. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> bjacob, dunno, ask bsmedberg
  2023. # [17:33] <froydnj> decoder: and in any event, this failure isn't from compiling C++ files
  2024. # [17:33] <decoder> froydnj: we're not using gcc at all on mac anymore
  2025. # [17:34] <decoder> froydnj: yea I wasnt suggesting that
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  2027. # [17:34] <decoder> but it's something with parallelization right?
  2028. # [17:34] <yury> Ms2ger: also, what's your OS and pdf.js addon version (if you are using that)
  2029. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> Linux, and a build from this morning
  2030. # [17:35] <froydnj> decoder: yes, it's sensitive to parallelization
  2031. # [17:35] <decoder> froydnj: so if some C compiling jobs terminate earlier or take longer, thatll affect the scheduling of that parallelization too, right?
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  2040. # [17:40] <froydnj> decoder: maybe...
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  2042. # [17:41] <decoder> froydnj: well, then I suggest we stop checking how common this is with the builds, as there is clearly a bug
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  2044. # [17:41] <decoder> and I suggest to fix it right now
  2045. # [17:41] <NeilAway> bah, smart page up/down only applies to the keyboard, the scrollbar still does dumb page up/down :s
  2046. # [17:41] <decoder> or backing the change out
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  2051. # [17:44] <froydnj> decoder: have at it
  2052. # [17:44] <decoder> what?
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  2054. # [17:44] <glandium> jimm: thanks
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  2058. # [17:45] <decoder> froydnj: I can back it out, yea. but I didnt want to do that if there's a chance for fixing it since your work there is valuable
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  2066. # [17:47] <catlee> I think OS X 10.7 debug failure on inbound is me
  2067. # [17:47] <catlee> I retriggered it
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  2075. # [17:51] <yury> Ms2ger: that's what I see http://async5.org/moz/ms2ger_s1.png . There might be a problems with different versions of linux. Could you file a bug (bugzilla or github is fine) about that?
  2076. # [17:51] <Ms2ger> Sure thing
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  2082. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> yury, bug 789074
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  2086. # [17:58] <yury> thanks
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  2102. # [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f83e74b38ff - Till Schneidereit - Bug 786743 - Disable JS minification for debug builds.
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  2107. # [18:11] <glandium> past: {"error":"unknownError","message":"error occurred while processing 'startProfiler' request: TypeError: aRequest.features is undefined","from":"conn8.profiler3"}
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  2119. # [18:14] <past> glandium: I haven't played with that part, but it looks like your client has to specify a "features" property in the request packet
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  2124. # [18:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e63b3b5dbb2a - DĂŁo Gottwald - Bug 789031 - Remove unnecessary tabPreviews.uninit. r=ttaubert
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  2126. # [18:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fdce7d4f4b3 - DĂŁo Gottwald - Bug 789032 - Dragging a link over the tab strip's scroll arrows calls _getDropIndex unnecessarily. r=jaws
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  2170. # [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cddd665d83f0 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 787927 - Prevent self-hosted JS script from being registered with the debugger
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  2176. # [18:43] <bdahl> is there some extra partial build magic to just rebuild toolkit?
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  2179. # [18:43] <Ms2ger> make -C toolkit?
  2180. # [18:44] <bdahl> yeah, tried that, doesn't seem to pick up my changes
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  2212. # [19:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4485a0ef19bd - Jan Beich - Bug 787730 - Don't assume NULL to be a character; r=ehsan
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  2216. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> Oh, wow, FreeBSD makes NULL a nullptr_t?
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  2243. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b901e1920284 - Chris Peterson - Bug 254139 - Prefer document title over original filename for default "Save Page As" filename. r=gavin ui-r=madhava
  2244. # [19:18] <@dbaron> ugh, a cause of orange got merged from m-i to m-c without the corresponding fix
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  2246. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  2248. # [19:19] <@dbaron> and now the orange is on profiling and fx-team
  2249. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> It'll get there
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  2251. # [19:21] <dougt> edmorley: ping?
  2252. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> dougt, can I help?
  2253. # [19:23] <dougt> Ms2ger: 786922 was backed up due to a preexisting random orange. wanted to see if edmorley disagreed or had any reservations of relanding that patch.
  2254. # [19:23] <@dbaron> see, I was considering starting to read again the folder to which I filter tbplbot emails
  2255. # [19:23] <@dbaron> and this sort of thing is what makes me not bother
  2256. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> dougt, fixing the failure would be nicer :)
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  2258. # [19:24] <dougt> Ms2ger: yeah, totally. khuey and I have it in a recording.
  2259. # [19:25] <dougt> Ms2ger: i am testing a bandaide
  2260. # [19:25] <dougt> I think it isn't gecko code, but the test harness
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  2262. # [19:25] <dougt> bent's test harness.
  2263. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> I'm happy to believe that
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  2265. # [19:25] <dougt> it is kind of great. have you seen it?
  2266. # [19:26] <dougt> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/indexedDB/ipc/test_ipc.html?force=1
  2267. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> Yes
  2268. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> I've complained about it loudly
  2269. # [19:26] <dougt> so, my patch I am testing removes the message listeners when the onTestComplete() is called
  2270. # [19:26] <dougt> basically what we are seeing is onTestMessage() is called after onTestComplete().
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  2273. # [19:27] <dougt> Ms2ger: maybe I can get you to review the fix if it works. :)
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  2275. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> No :)
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  2280. # [19:30] <edmorley> dougt: if the orange bug is a dupe, then yeah I guess might as well reland (if you could dupe the orange bugs, remove the [orange] and blocking from the old one, and add the test name to the original that would be awesome :-)
  2281. # [19:30] <edmorley> dbaron: which bug?
  2282. # [19:30] <dougt> edmorley: do you know if there is an easy way to qimport the reverse of a patch?
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  2284. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> edmorley, the CSS cross_origin one, or whatever it's called
  2285. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> Somewhere in the 500ks
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  2287. # [19:31] <edmorley> dougt: qimport the URL for the raw patch of the original landing perhaps?
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  2290. # [19:32] <@dbaron> edmorley, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c8694da32f7
  2291. # [19:32] <edmorley> dbaron: ah ok
  2292. # [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96b314d423ab - Doug Turner - Bug 786922 - Device Storage - use a properties file instead of the mime service. The properties. r=djf
  2293. # [19:32] <edmorley> dbaron: that wasn't green when I merged; and my skim read to ensure I wasn't merging anything that had later been backed out / merging any bustage didn't spot it
  2294. # [19:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/748af2073517 - Doug Turner - Bug 786922 - Device Storage - use a properties file instead of the mime service. r=bent
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  2296. # [19:34] <BenWa> ehsan: That was pretty good. It took me < 20 mins
  2297. # [19:34] <dougt> edmorley: i'll look at getting a test fix before starting on new stuff.
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  2300. # [19:34] <BenWa> ehsan: So my wishlist is to take a regression window and be able to bisect that using the TBPL builds
  2301. # [19:35] <@ehsan> BenWa: we only keep those around for a month
  2302. # [19:35] <edmorley> dougt: great, thank you :-)
  2303. # [19:35] <@ehsan> because hard disk space is much more expensive than developer time
  2304. # [19:35] <BenWa> ehsan: The regression is within the last month
  2305. # [19:35] <@ehsan> BenWa: well, yeah that would definitely be a cool feature to add..
  2306. # [19:35] <@ehsan> BenWa: ask on #ateam perhaps?
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  2308. # [19:35] <edmorley> BenWa: adding support for tinderbox builds to mozregression would be nice :-)
  2309. # [19:36] <davidb> BenWa: just build it
  2310. # [19:36] <BenWa> I may do it if someone tell me how I can find map a changeset number to a TBPL build
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  2312. # [19:38] <@dbaron> edmorley, yeah, I guess it had been merged earlier, it just hadn't actually triggered any intermittent orange on m-c until the next merge
  2313. # [19:38] <glandium> past: looking at mobile/android/chrome/content/dbg-browser-actors.js, it seems to just inherit from toolkit/devtools/debugger/server/dbg-browser-actors.js ; shouldn't that work out of the box?
  2314. # [19:38] <@dbaron> edmorley, I suppose I should have just landed the fix on m-i and m-c and then gone to sleep :-)
  2315. # [19:38] <glandium> past: mmmmm b2g's too
  2316. # [19:38] <edmorley> dbaron: :-)
  2317. # [19:39] <edmorley> BenWa: use http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/file/8f3bcd650aeb/php/getRevisionBuilds.php
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  2321. # [19:39] <past> glandium: it overrides some of the changed methods
  2322. # [19:39] <edmorley> BenWa: with tree & revision you get json back with "log"; trim the filename off of that and you have the directory
  2323. # [19:40] <past> glandium: let me post the patch I have for you
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  2326. # [19:40] <BenWa> edmorley: Where is still deployed?
  2327. # [19:40] <BenWa> this*
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  2329. # [19:40] <glandium> past: i just patched DeviceRootActor.prototype.onListTabs with the same patch toolkit/devtools/debugger/server/dbg-browser-actors.js got.
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  2332. # [19:41] <glandium> past: shouldn't that be enough?
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  2334. # [19:41] <past> glandium: are you talking about Fennec?
  2335. # [19:41] <glandium> past: yes
  2336. # [19:42] <edmorley> BenWa: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getRevisionBuilds.php?branch=mozilla-inbound&rev=748af2073517
  2337. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2fe8fa1f29b - Steve Fink - Bug 787709 - Crash test for bug 787775. r=woof!
  2338. # [19:42] <glandium> past: for b2g, the patch you gave seems to work
  2339. # [19:42] <past> glandium: then yes, that should work
  2340. # [19:42] <glandium> past: ok thanks
  2341. # [19:43] <BenWa> edmorley: Cool. thanks :)
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  2344. # [19:43] <edmorley> BenWa: or releng might have a better way
  2345. # [19:44] <@smaug> is there some easy way to compare try perf test results to m-c test results
  2346. # [19:44] <BenWa> I got no answer in #build but this is what I want
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  2349. # [19:44] <jhammel> smaug: you might try https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786504 ; but i think the answer is "no easy way"
  2350. # [19:44] <jhammel> it is doable
  2351. # [19:44] <bsmedberg> smaug: http://elvis314.wordpress.com/2012/07/13/mozilla-a-team-how-to-compare-talos-numbers-from-try-server-to-trunk-13/
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  2354. # [19:45] <bsmedberg> or https://github.com/Pike/talos-node or http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/
  2355. # [19:45] <@smaug> thanks
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  2357. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4a03a2b398b - Wes Kocher - Merge
  2358. # [19:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/543a246b5539 - Wes Kocher - Update Jetpack tests in Firefox to pick up bug 774709's tentative fix.
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  2362. # [19:47] <edmorley> BenWa: it isn't yet on tbpl production, but this patch adds tbpl support for "go to build directory" for non-try: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/rev/138261442b9f
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  2364. # [19:48] <edmorley> BenWa: so failing any mozregression solution, you will be able to use that to find the builds more quickly
  2365. # [19:48] <BenWa> Yea, I've been tracking that bug. I went to add it to TBPL a while back but it was really complex
  2366. # [19:49] <edmorley> BenWa: ah also, using getRevisionBuilds.php for 'log' needs that bug to be on prod
  2367. # [19:49] <mcsmurf> when are nightly builds usually generated? At midnight?
  2368. # [19:49] <edmorley> mcsmurf: 3am PDT if all green builds
  2369. # [19:49] <edmorley> iirc
  2370. # [19:49] <BenWa> edmorley: for 'log'?
  2371. # [19:50] <edmorley> BenWa: yeah, the json currently doesn't specify it, and only does as of that bug landing
  2372. # [19:50] <edmorley> BenWa: should be in prod in less than a week
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  2374. # [19:50] <BenWa> You mean to retrieve the build log?
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  2376. # [19:51] <edmorley> BenWa: yeah, since you use the log URL to work out where the build directory is (you just trim off the log filename)
  2377. # [19:51] <BenWa> Ohh i c
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  2381. # [19:53] <edmorley> BenWa: so you'll end up with something like http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32/1346670672/ onto which mozregression can add the 'firefox-18.0a1.en-US.win32.zip' or whatever for each platform
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  2383. # [19:54] <BenWa> edmorley: Ohh that's nasty since the filenames change every version and for other reasons
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  2386. # [19:54] <edmorley> BenWa: yeah but mozregression already has to deal with that
  2387. # [19:54] <BenWa> Ohh ok
  2388. # [19:54] <edmorley> BenWa: you are already using mozregression when bisecting nightlies, yeah?
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  2390. # [19:55] <BenWa> Yes but I haven't looked at the code
  2391. # [19:55] <edmorley> ok :-)
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  2393. # [19:55] <BenWa> I wont get to it this week but I'll try to get to it soon
  2394. # [19:55] <BenWa> Having to build to get intraday data is a waste of time
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  2399. # [19:58] <@ehsan> catlee: for bug 788489, should I just land the required changes on aurora/beta and update the docs?
  2400. # [19:58] <@ehsan> catlee: or do I need to attach patches request reviews etc?
  2401. # [19:58] <philor> edmorley: still up for backing out? till needs to come out
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  2403. # [19:59] <edmorley> philor: sure :-)
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  2407. # [19:59] <jimb> past: Which feature was BenWa asking for an ETA for?
  2408. # [20:00] <BenWa> jimb: Getting a profiler actor
  2409. # [20:00] <catlee> ehsan: let's do an r? just to be sure
  2410. # [20:00] <past> jimb: landing bug 753401 (and its dependencies)
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  2412. # [20:00] <@ehsan> catlee: sure. do you wanna review the patches?
  2413. # [20:00] <BenWa> I've been putting off some bug fix and improvements because using the debug protocol is the right way going forward
  2414. # [20:00] <past> jimb: can you take a look sometime this week?
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  2416. # [20:01] <jimb> Yes, I think I can.
  2417. # [20:01] <catlee> ehsan: sure
  2418. # [20:01] <past> jimb: <3
  2419. # [20:01] <jimb> past: I've been re-familiarizing myself with the JS debugger code, so yeah.
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  2421. # [20:01] <@ehsan> catlee: cool, will attach the patches soon :)
  2422. # [20:01] <@ehsan> catlee: also, remind me where the uplift docs live?
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  2424. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ed5024f9101 - Ed Morley - Backout a3a7de3e2938 (bug 784294), cddd665d83f0 (bug 787927) for failures in browser_dbg_bfcache.js
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  2428. # [20:02] <past> jimb: there are lots of ideas to improve things, but I've blocked the profiler and other tools for quite some time now :-(
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  2431. # [20:03] <jimb> :(
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  2433. # [20:03] <jimb> I guess we gotta bump that priority up a bit
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  2435. # [20:03] <past> yeah
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  2439. # [20:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fc505e515aa - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 787574 - Add a script for creating stub implementations of Web IDL interfaces; r=bzbarsky
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  2442. # [20:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95b911e4e435 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 788119 - Don't even parse home pages in Reader's worker thread (r=mfinkle)
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  2446. # [20:07] <edmorley> BenWa: filed github issue for the tinderbox idea: https://github.com/mozilla/mozregression/issues/39
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  2456. # [20:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ca630290d89d - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 788854 - Escape backslash in filenames, r=mdas, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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  2461. # [20:14] <@smaug> is there a reason why try builds using Os and Nightlies have O3
  2462. # [20:14] <@smaug> +are
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  2465. # [20:15] <Mook_as> ugh, why does msys hate me? somehow, on my system, I need to change client.mk to use "$(PYTHON)" instead of $(PYTHON) otherwise things die about not being able to find python... (yes, adding quotes, even though there's no spaces in the path to python...)
  2466. # [20:15] <joshmoz> taras: Snappy meeting?
  2467. # [20:15] <mcsmurf> smaug: maybe for better debugging? not sure
  2468. # [20:15] <taras> joshmoz: programmanagement room
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  2470. # [20:15] <mcsmurf> debugging O3 builds can lead to strange results iirc (but not sure tbh)
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  2474. # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3553ab3c6054 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 788609 - Check for about: URIs in isMarketPlace(). r=mfinkle
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  2480. # [20:17] <edmorley> BenWa: btw davehunt said that mozdownload supports tinderbox builds, so we could just use that
  2481. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9f461f0aaa56 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 787597 - Don't do a reader parse for pages with > 3000 elements. r=lucasr f=mfinkle a=akeybl
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  2490. # [20:24] <myk> lsblakk: where is that code for downloading the latest nightly build from ftpmo that you hacked on for the jetpack test runner? i have another use for it but don't remember which repository it lives in
  2491. # [20:24] <lsblakk> myk: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/tip/buildfarm/utils/run_jetpack.py ?
  2492. # [20:25] <jhammel> myk: https://github.com/mozilla/mozdownload may also be useful (or not)
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  2494. # [20:25] <myk> lsblakk: ooh, that looks like it, thanks!
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  2496. # [20:26] <myk> jhammel: umm, that looks very useful!
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  2498. # [20:26] <@smaug> do we have some cross platform way to say always_inline
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  2500. # [20:28] <@smaug> ah, looks like so
  2501. # [20:28] <padenot> smaug: in Attributes.h
  2502. # [20:28] <@smaug> yeah
  2503. # [20:28] <@smaug> I wonder if that works with clang
  2504. # [20:30] <@ehsan> bjacob: talking to catlee right now
  2505. # [20:30] <bjacob> ehsan: catlee: here's a brain dump, informed by a conversation with ehsan: https://wiki.mozilla.org/SkippingTests
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  2511. # [20:38] <Hixie> is Andrea Marchesini on IRC?
  2512. # [20:38] <Hixie> baku: ping
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  2521. # [20:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06fef017a420 - Chris Peterson - Bug 769894 - Part 2: Assert that PromptService's AlertDialog is called back on the UI thread. r=mfinkle
  2522. # [20:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58be0a04c3c4 - Chris Peterson - Bug 769894 - Part 3: Skip some unnecessary conditional code when creating PromptService's AlertDialog. r=mfinkle
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  2524. # [20:42] <decoder> mounir: just updated bug 787717 and cced you, would be very nice if you had a look
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  2526. # [20:42] <benjamin> anyone have any hp contacts?
  2527. # [20:43] <mounir> decoder: how do I use ASAN?
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  2530. # [20:44] <decoder> mounir: easiest way is to download a build here: http://people.mozilla.org/~choller/firefox/asan/
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  2532. # [20:44] <azakai> is there a simple way to find the last mozilla-central changeset relevant for a release? (i want to bisect in m-c, and am pretty sure the changesets added in the release branches don't affect things)
  2533. # [20:44] <decoder> mounir: I guess the trace isnt revealing the problem?
  2534. # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/972343e2fd90 - Jan Beich - Bug 788108 - Remove FreeBSD workaround for double type wrapper. rs=sicking
  2535. # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6337d6dd9727 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 788862: Initialize 'segType' in SVGPathData::ConstructPath. r=jwatt
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  2539. # [20:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce658303181e - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 760229 - Cache some transient objects in SingleTileLayer to reduce GC stress during composition. r=Cwiiis
  2540. # [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22cf6f3d242d - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 760229 - Cache some transient objects in ScrollbarLayer to reduce GC stress during composition. r=Cwiiis
  2541. # [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/240706f2cc94 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 760229 - Factor out a fillRectCoordBuffer function. r=Cwiiis
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  2544. # [20:49] <JonathanS> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=nsnull only left to accessible
  2545. # [20:50] <KWierso> azakai: about:buildconfig ?
  2546. # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18155f074640 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785992 - Sanitize parsed reader mode article when viewing (r=mfinkle)
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  2548. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> benjamin, why's that?
  2549. # [20:50] <azakai> KWierso: but it gives me the changeset in the release channel, after it spend 3 months our of m-c
  2550. # [20:50] <azakai> *out
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  2556. # [20:51] <KWierso> oh, the last thing prior to branching?
  2557. # [20:51] <azakai> yeah
  2558. # [20:52] <azakai> i'm trying to find it by scanning the logs manually, but seems like there should be a better way ;)
  2559. # [20:52] <KWierso> I got nothin
  2560. # [20:52] <azakai> heh, ok
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  2563. # [20:55] <@bz> Anyone hereknow anything about the mediasniffer code?
  2564. # [20:55] <azakai> hmm on an old rev i get "build file copies are not in sync" http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1807672 is there a solution for that? i wiped the objdir
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  2566. # [20:55] <padenot> bz: I do
  2567. # [20:57] <@bz> padenot: so I'm looking at it, and it looks wrong at first glance
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  2569. # [20:57] <@bz> padenot: in that it overrides the server-provided type in all cases
  2570. # [20:57] <@bz> padenot: is there a reason we do that?
  2571. # [20:57] <KWierso> azakai: I guess the history for this file is close to the point of branching? http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/log/ca630290d89d/browser/config/version.txt
  2572. # [20:58] <azakai> KWierso: ah nice, that makes sense. thanks!
  2573. # [20:58] <@bz> padenot: That is, all cases where it actually sniffs a file as media, of course.
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  2576. # [21:00] <padenot> bz: my understanding is that this code is called if we don't have a content-type
  2577. # [21:00] <@bz> no
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  2579. # [21:00] <@bz> your understanding is wrong
  2580. # [21:00] <@bz> this code is called always
  2581. # [21:00] <@bz> because of the mechanism you're using to hook in
  2582. # [21:00] <@bz> it's called for any HTTP response that has the "can do sniffing" set
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  2585. # [21:01] <@bz> Because apparently we wanted this code to be called when the server sends "Content-Type: application/octet-stream"
  2586. # [21:01] <padenot> yes, we do want that
  2587. # [21:01] <@bz> right
  2588. # [21:01] <@bz> OK
  2589. # [21:01] <@bz> so what this code should probably do is ask the channel for its content type
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  2591. # [21:01] <@bz> and only sniff if the type is octet-stream or unknown....
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  2596. # [21:03] * @bz hopes he's making sense...
  2597. # [21:03] <padenot> I'm not sure
  2598. # [21:03] <padenot> to understand, that is
  2599. # [21:04] <@bz> ok
  2600. # [21:04] * @bz thinks
  2601. # [21:04] <@bz> So in terms of what the spec says
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  2603. # [21:04] <@bz> Per spec, we should only sniff for media if type is unknown or if it's octet-stream
  2604. # [21:04] <@bz> right?
  2605. # [21:04] <padenot> yes
  2606. # [21:04] <@bz> ok
  2607. # [21:04] <@bz> In terms of our implementation...
  2608. # [21:04] <@bz> We basically have two types of sniffers
  2609. # [21:04] <@bz> 1) Runs only when type is unknown
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  2611. # [21:05] <@bz> 2) Runs on all requests that opted into sniffing
  2612. # [21:05] <@bz> The media sniffer can't be type 1
  2613. # [21:05] <@bz> so we implemented it as type 2
  2614. # [21:05] <@bz> Requests that opt into sniffing include media requests and full-page requests
  2615. # [21:05] <@smaug> ehsan: do you happen to know if clang supports always_inline?
  2616. # [21:05] <@bz> And for full-page requests we have some sniffers (e.g. the RSS sniffer) that do want to override the server-sent MIME type in various cases
  2617. # [21:05] <Mook_as> azakai: if you're lucky, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/tags would have a relevant -base tag for your release.
  2618. # [21:05] <@bz> Which is why the setup is what it is
  2619. # [21:06] <@bz> But what that means for the media sniffer is that it has to be careful to only do sniffing in the cases it should do it in.
  2620. # [21:06] <padenot> alright, I get it
  2621. # [21:06] <@bz> That being when the type is unknown or octet-stream
  2622. # [21:06] <azakai> Mook_as: nice, thanks!
  2623. # [21:06] <@bz> padenot: ok, cool
  2624. # [21:07] <Mook_as> you're welcome, and go thank the nice build people who do the tagging :D
  2625. # [21:07] <@bz> padenot: For a bit there I wasn't sure I was understanding the spec right. ;)
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  2627. # [21:07] <jdm> romaxa: ping
  2628. # [21:07] <mounir> NeilAway, Enn: who is the focus guy already? :)
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  2632. # [21:09] <padenot> bz: what you mean is that I should special case the media sniffer here? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpChannel.cpp#960
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  2640. # [21:12] <froydnj> ted: you wanted the dom/ build failures fixed, there's a patch in bug 786703 for you
  2641. # [21:12] <@bz> padenot: no, what I mean is that your media sniffer should check whether it should be doing anything
  2642. # [21:12] <froydnj> ted: feel free to pass it to khuey
  2643. # [21:12] <@bz> padenot: er, s/your/the/
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  2645. # [21:13] <jlebar> Is NS_ABORT_IF_FALSE debug-only?
  2646. # [21:13] <@bz> padenot: as in, QI the given request to nsIChannel and examine the contentType
  2647. # [21:13] <jlebar> Or is it identical to MOZ_ASSERT?
  2648. # [21:13] <@bz> jlebar: iirc, yes
  2649. # [21:13] <@bz> jlebar: not identical, iirc, but still debug only
  2650. # [21:13] <jlebar> I guess "or" is the wrong conjunction.
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  2652. # [21:13] <jlebar> bz, How is it not identical?
  2653. # [21:13] <@bz> jlebar: it uses a different crash mechanism, iirc
  2654. # [21:13] <padenot> bz: of course, thanks.
  2655. # [21:13] <@bz> jlebar: or at least it might
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  2657. # [21:14] <@bz> jlebar: it goes through the same goop as NS_ASSERTION, but with a different break level or something....
  2658. # [21:14] <jlebar> bz, Of course, naturally.
  2659. # [21:14] <jlebar> bz, Thanks. :)
  2660. # [21:14] <@bz> jlebar: no problem. ;)
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  2669. # [21:17] <@smaug> bdahl: now that azure canvas has been enabled, could you re-test the printing stuff
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  2673. # [21:18] <@smaug> though, hmm, perhaps I should test it on linux
  2674. # [21:18] <@smaug> since it was enabled already elsewhere
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  2681. # [21:19] <bdahl> smaug: sure, though i thought it was already enabled on osx
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  2698. # [21:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb7d4d469355 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 788261 - Split PNK_FUNCTION into multiple parse node kinds. Part 1, split PNK_FUNCTIONNS from PNK_FUNCTION. r=Waldo.
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  2703. # [21:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2e5feedaa8f - Jason Orendorff - Rename PNK_RB and friends to more meaningful names. Bug 788222, r=Waldo.
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  2707. # [21:29] <biesi> can someone remind me, is JS_CStringsAreUTF8 true for firefox these days?
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  2716. # [21:34] <whimboo> bholley: ping
  2717. # [21:34] <bholley> whimboo: hi
  2718. # [21:35] <whimboo> bholley: i hope you ahd a good start after your pto :)
  2719. # [21:35] <bholley> whimboo: heh, quite the firehose ;-)
  2720. # [21:35] <whimboo> bholley: not sure if you had time yet, but do you have any plan when you will have a look at bug 786852?
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  2722. # [21:35] <whimboo> :)
  2723. # [21:35] <biesi> Waldo, jdm: you may know this - do we define JS_CSTRINGS_ARE_UTF8 or whatever that's called?
  2724. # [21:35] <whimboo> i assume as usual
  2725. # [21:36] <whimboo> bholley: it's something which is causing a lot of test failures for our mozmill testruns
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  2727. # [21:37] <jdm> biesi: I've never even heard of that before
  2728. # [21:38] <bholley> whimboo: just to confirm - have you checked with today's nightly builds? I was kind of hoping bug 774633, which landed yesterday, might fix it
  2729. # [21:38] <bholley> whimboo: assuming so, I'll try to look at this today
  2730. # [21:38] <tbsaunde> JonathanS: wtf? those files don't exist, and haven't for a couple months
  2731. # [21:38] <whimboo> bholley: will check quickly
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  2733. # [21:38] <whimboo> bholley: will you be at mozcamp?
  2734. # [21:38] <tbsaunde> JonathanS: (re nsnull)
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  2736. # [21:39] <bholley> whimboo: unfortunately not :-( I'm still back in california
  2737. # [21:39] <biesi> jdm, looks like it's JS_C_STRINGS_ARE_UTF8
  2738. # [21:39] <biesi> and I don't _think_ that's defined
  2739. # [21:39] <whimboo> bholley: nope. its' not fixed. see http://mozmill-ci.blargon7.com/#/functional/report/671677a5d9d5ca25f3cf5ae1c42c130e
  2740. # [21:39] <whimboo> bholley: that are the results of a todays build
  2741. # [21:39] <bholley> whimboo: ok, cool. I'll take a look soon
  2742. # [21:39] <whimboo> bholley: so thanks in advance for checking it
  2743. # [21:39] <bholley> np
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  2745. # [21:40] <whimboo> bholley: if you have questions please ask on the bug. i will be travleing tomorrow
  2746. # [21:40] <bholley> whimboo: are you around for the next hour or two?
  2747. # [21:40] <whimboo> bholley: i will be away but might wnat to check. please query me if possible
  2748. # [21:40] <whimboo> bholley: or join #automation
  2749. # [21:40] <bholley> whimboo: ok, will do
  2750. # [21:41] <jdm> biesi: JS strings are ucs-2 or whatever (ie. two bytes per character)
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  2752. # [21:41] <biesi> jdm, yes, but this affects what happens to JS_EncodeString and such
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  2754. # [21:42] <jdm> biesi: remind me why JS_EncodeString is necessary?
  2755. # [21:42] <biesi> jdm, that gets you a char* out of a JSString
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  2757. # [21:42] <biesi> jdm, and how it converts depends on whether that define is set
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  2759. # [21:42] <jdm> biesi: right. what's the context in which you need to know this?
  2760. # [21:43] <biesi> jdm, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=769764&attachment=657512 uses JS_EncodeString
  2761. # [21:43] <froydnj> jorendorff: that's some if condition!
  2762. # [21:43] <jorendorff> it's legendary
  2763. # [21:43] <biesi> jdm, though of course you suggested nsDependentJSString which solves this
  2764. # [21:43] <jdm> biesi: right, hence all of my comments to that effect.
  2765. # [21:43] <biesi> wasn'
  2766. # [21:43] <biesi> t clear to me that that's why :-)
  2767. # [21:43] <biesi> especially since you didn't comment on some of the uses
  2768. # [21:43] <jdm> less code, less manual memory management, less concern about string widths
  2769. # [21:44] <jdm> hmm, I intended too
  2770. # [21:44] <jdm> maybe I was getting repetitive and figured it was clear
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  2772. # [21:44] <biesi> jdm, well JSErrorReport::linebuf was sort of less obvious, I suppose
  2773. # [21:44] <biesi> or the error reporter argument
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  2775. # [21:44] <jdm> oh, hmm
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  2779. # [21:46] <jdm> biesi: yeah, looks like other places cast that to PRUnichar*
  2780. # [21:46] <biesi> jdm, uh, that can't be right!?
  2781. # [21:46] <jdm> biesi: whoops, that's uclinebuf
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  2783. # [21:46] <biesi> jdm, ah yes, exactly
  2784. # [21:46] * jdm whistles innocently
  2785. # [21:47] <biesi> jdm, (I'm commenting on that)
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  2799. # [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d627e554fff4 - Brad Lassey - bug 788666 - Multiple APK: Each APK must not exactly match the configuration support of another APK r=mbrubeck
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  2809. # [22:00] <bsmith> What's a good example of us using JS via xpcshell as an actual scripting language to do something useful as part of the build (instead of using python)?
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  2811. # [22:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/186b0a9bd97b - Jan Beich - Bug 787588 - d_reclen is dead on DragonFly since 64bit inode support. r=landry
  2812. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/864f3ea3c164 - Jan Beich - Bug 787904 - Use 8k pagesize on FreeBSD ia64/sparc64. r=terrence
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  2815. # [22:04] <@bz> " Summary: Unravel 30-line if condition in Parser.cpp"
  2816. # [22:04] <@bz> Bug comment 0: "Because yeah."
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  2820. # [22:07] <froydnj> bsmith: we have examples of that? would have thought that was dubious practice
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  2823. # [22:07] <froydnj> e.g. doesn't work with crosses
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  2826. # [22:08] <bsmith> good point.
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  2828. # [22:08] <bsmith> I don't really need to do something as part of the build
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  2830. # [22:08] <bsmith> but, I want to have a manually-run script that uses Gecko's networking stack
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  2833. # [22:09] <bsmedberg> bsmith: well, httpserver is pretty close
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  2842. # [22:11] <sfink> bsmith: there's an xpcshell call to populate_startupcache(...) that does... something. (And is a PITA.) It's part of the package step.
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  2844. # [22:11] <@ted> yes
  2845. # [22:11] <@ted> sfink: it populates the startup cache :)
  2846. # [22:12] <@bz> " Is it a valid conclusion that there is no heap corruption? "
  2847. # [22:12] <@ted> just basically loads a bunch of JS so it can serialize it
  2848. # [22:12] * @bz wonders about the mindset of the asker of such a question
  2849. # [22:12] <bsmith> thanks guys
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  2851. # [22:16] <msucan> how can i get the docshell for a window object?
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  2858. # [22:19] <@ted> sfink: we briefly had a JS macro assembler in JS
  2859. # [22:19] <@ted> that brendan wrote
  2860. # [22:19] <@ted> but it was a pain for the actual build because of cross-compiling etc
  2861. # [22:19] <@bz> msucan: getInterface an nsIWebNavigation, then QI to docshell
  2862. # [22:19] <sfink> ted: whee, that sounds fun
  2863. # [22:19] <@bz> msucan: unless your window object is sane
  2864. # [22:20] <@bz> msucan: in which case, you just GetDocShell()
  2865. # [22:20] <msucan> bz: sane? it is a browser.contentWindow
  2866. # [22:20] <@bz> msucan: "sane" == nsPIDOMWindow
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  2868. # [22:20] <@bz> msucan: ah, in JS you have to do this the suck way
  2869. # [22:20] <msucan> ah, then i need to QI
  2870. # [22:20] <msucan> yep
  2871. # [22:20] <msucan> thanks!
  2872. # [22:21] <@bz> QI to nsIInterfaceRequestor, getInterface the nsIWebNavigation, QI to nsIDocShell
  2873. # [22:21] <@bz> That said...
  2874. # [22:21] <@bz> if you have a <browser>
  2875. # [22:21] <@bz> then just ask it for the docshell?
  2876. # [22:21] <@bz> or do you no longer have the <browser>?
  2877. # [22:21] <msucan> i don't have it in the place i'd need it...
  2878. # [22:21] <@bz> ok
  2879. # [22:21] <msucan> unfortunately
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  2883. # [22:21] <@bz> well, when we move window to webidl bindings...
  2884. # [22:21] <@bz> we can add a .docShell on it
  2885. # [22:22] <msucan> that would be really useful ;)
  2886. # [22:22] <jdm> bz: mmm
  2887. # [22:22] <@bz> jdm: ?
  2888. # [22:22] <jdm> a docShell property would be lovely
  2889. # [22:22] <@bz> jdm: ah
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  2891. # [22:22] <@bz> jdm: well, all's we need to do is move Window to webidl...
  2892. # [22:23] <@bz> jdm: because after that it's trivial
  2893. # [22:23] <froydnj> what's involved with moving things to webidl?
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  2895. # [22:23] <@bz> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Adding_WebIDL_bindings_to_a_class
  2896. # [22:23] <@bz> But for the special case of Window it's more work...
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  2898. # [22:23] <@bz> because of the global scope polluter and all the other weirdness
  2899. # [22:23] <froydnj> whoa, documentation
  2900. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> And unforgeable stuff
  2901. # [22:24] * @bz wrote some up
  2902. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> And replaceable stuff
  2903. # [22:24] <@bz> I'm even keeping it up to date
  2904. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> bz++
  2905. # [22:24] <froydnj> bz++
  2906. # [22:24] <@bz> yeah, we need a bunch of work for Window
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  2908. # [22:24] <@bz> And whatever hackery is involved in putting all the stuff on the object itself, possibly
  2909. # [22:24] <@bz> so yeah
  2910. # [22:24] <@bz> I'm happy to handhold if someone wants to work on it
  2911. # [22:24] <@bz> but it's nontrivial amounts of work
  2912. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> I've been looking at it
  2913. # [22:25] <@bz> oh?
  2914. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> Some of the work is in peterv's queue
  2915. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> And will probably remain there for a while still
  2916. # [22:25] <@bz> Ms2ger: so imho we should add a [Global] IDL annotation
  2917. # [22:25] <@bz> Ms2ger: which will trigger some of this stuff
  2918. # [22:25] <@bz> Ms2ger: the gsp is handled by the named properties object annotation already...
  2919. # [22:26] <@bz> Ms2ger: I can review things
  2920. # [22:26] <@bz> Ms2ger: if you're blocked on peterv, ask me instead
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  2922. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> bz, I'm about to head off, feel free to dump in the backlog or in a bug :)
  2923. # [22:26] <@bz> Ms2ger: he's got a lot on his plate already
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  2925. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> bz, you don't? ;)
  2926. # [22:26] <@bz> Ms2ger: not for bindings stuff. ;)
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  2930. # [22:27] <tbsaunde> bz: I think I could be interested in doing some work on bindings, but if Ms2ger has already started looking at window I'll stay clear of his way
  2931. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, there's lots more! ;)
  2932. # [22:29] <@bz> tbsaunde: there's enough around window for several people at first
  2933. # [22:29] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I'm sure there is :)
  2934. # [22:29] <@bz> tbsaunde: but also, lots of other things need converting
  2935. # [22:29] <tbsaunde> bz: like what? / where is a reasonable place to start?
  2936. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, basically everything in dom/interfaces :)
  2937. # [22:30] <@smaug> bz: btw, if your review queue is huge, and there is something I could review, happy to help
  2938. # [22:30] <@bz> tbsaunde: So as far as things needing converting....
  2939. # [22:30] * @smaug has managed to keep his review queue empty (daily) for some time now
  2940. # [22:30] <@bz> smaug: are you interested in taking bug 682838 off my hands? ;)
  2941. # [22:31] <@smaug> s/some time/for few days/
  2942. # [22:31] <@bz> smaug: other than that, I think most of my things are layout. Plus the XBL insertion point thing
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  2944. # [22:31] <@bz> smaug: and the refresh driver stuff you were already looking at
  2945. # [22:31] <@smaug> k
  2946. # [22:31] <@bz> tbsaunde: basically, everything that has classinfo needs to be converted at some point
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  2948. # [22:31] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: sure, but presumably there is dependancies between diffrent things in dom/interfaces :)
  2949. # [22:32] <@smaug> Bug 682838 is really necko stuff
  2950. # [22:32] <@bz> smaug: yeah
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  2952. # [22:32] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, a lot of them are fairly simple classes
  2953. # [22:32] <@bz> tbsaunde: so things I would love to see fixed...
  2954. # [22:32] <@bz> tbsaunde: 742189
  2955. # [22:32] <Ms2ger> But not really high value either
  2956. # [22:32] <@bz> tbsaunde: 742191
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  2960. # [22:33] <@bz> tbsaunde: for that latter, we have better infrastructure for exceptions now; just have to go through and make codegen use it everywhere
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  2962. # [22:33] <tbsaunde> bz: ok, give me a sec to look
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  2964. # [22:33] <@bz> tbsaunde: 742193 is basically the same issue as 742189
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  2966. # [22:34] <Ms2ger> bz, bug 742191 is about DOMExceptions, no?
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  2968. # [22:34] <@bz> Ms2ger: hmm.... not sure
  2969. # [22:35] <@bz> tbsaunde: past that, various stuff in classinfo, basically
  2970. # [22:35] <@bz> tbsaunde: and maybe ping peterv to see if he has work on Node and Element that he can hand off?
  2971. # [22:35] <Ms2ger> In any case, there are two issues with exceptions that we need to fix, dunno if they have distinct bugs
  2972. # [22:35] <@bz> tbsaunde: once we get those done we can start converting all the element classes....
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  2978. # [22:36] <@bz> tbsaunde: you can also generally poke at the deps of 580070 to see if any of them look interesting
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  2980. # [22:36] <Waldo> smaug: MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE works just fine, including with clang
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  2983. # [22:37] <Waldo> benjamin: I suspect fantasai has some, seeing as she worked at HP back in the day; probably you can find her preferred email on bugzilla
  2984. # [22:38] <tbsaunde> bz: so, where does the worker domjs stuff live? and where can I look to try and understand dom exceptions?
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  2986. # [22:38] <@bz> tbsaunde: the worker stuff lives in dom/workers/Worker.cpp and dom/workers/WorkerScope.cpp
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  2988. # [22:39] <Waldo> biesi: Gecko does not use JS_CStringsAreUTF8, or the macro, unfortunately
  2989. # [22:39] <@smaug> Waldo: good!
  2990. # [22:39] <@bz> tbsaunde: For the exceptions, basically compare the ThrowErrorMessage and Throw() methods in BindingUtils.h
  2991. # [22:39] <@bz> tbsaunde: Generated code should not be using Throw
  2992. # [22:40] <Waldo> ted, sfink: also a pain because if your local changes were bad, it often meant you couldn't build, and you had to laboriously extract the failing command line from the imacro-generation script to actually debug it
  2993. # [22:40] <@bz> tbsaunde: certainly not with explicit error codes
  2994. # [22:40] <@bz> tbsaunde: so that might be a place to dive in to just get a feel for the codegen
  2995. # [22:41] <@bz> tbsaunde: if you want to learn about that
  2996. # [22:41] <tbsaunde> bz: why not ;)
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  3003. # [22:46] <tbsaunde> bz: so, first convert stuff from xpc::Throw() to BindingUtils ThrowErrorMessage() and then worry about changing the binding utils code to do something other than call xpc::Throw() ?
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  3005. # [22:48] <@bz> tbsaunde: ThrowErrorMessage doesn't call xpc::Throw
  3006. # [22:48] <@bz> tbsaunde: you want to convert stuff from using mozilla::dom::Throw<bool> to using ThrowErrorMessage
  3007. # [22:48] <@bz> tbsaunde: basically
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  3012. # [22:49] <tbsaunde> bz: oh, right, the inline function below it threw me off
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  3022. # [22:55] <tbsaunde> bz: but the part about replacing xpc::Throw() with BindingUtils is correct?
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  3026. # [22:57] <@bz> tbsaunde: yes
  3027. # [22:58] <@bz> tbsaunde: well, sorta
  3028. # [22:58] <@bz> tbsaunde: there should be no explicit codegen callers of xpc::Throw
  3029. # [22:58] <@bz> tbsaunde: and we're not talking about xpc::Throw elsewhere in the tree
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  3031. # [22:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76ef86e0fd8c - Dave Hylands - Bug 782289 - Forward headphone status changed notification from gonk to chrome. r=philikon
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  3039. # [23:00] <devd> bz: ping
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  3042. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8f996f5815d - Dave Hylands - Bug 782289 - Bah - Added in the second part of the patch. r=philikon
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  3050. # [23:07] <@bz> devd: ack
  3051. # [23:07] <devd> I didn't understand your comment about treating bytes as UTF-8
  3052. # [23:08] <devd> Isn't HTTP purely UTF-8 ?
  3053. # [23:08] <devd> err .. as in HTTP headers
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  3056. # [23:08] <@bz> devd: can I laugh out loud?
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  3058. # [23:09] <@bz> devd: Per spec, HTTP headers are ISO-8859-1
  3059. # [23:09] <@bz> devd: unless some other spec says otherwise
  3060. # [23:09] <@bz> devd: in practice no one follows the HTTP spec
  3061. # [23:09] <@bz> devd: so how does the CSP spec define behavior here
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  3063. # [23:09] <@bz> devd: ?
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  3065. # [23:09] <@dolske> wonder if they'll revisit that for HTTP/2.0 / SPDY
  3066. # [23:09] <@bz> dolske: there's no sane solution
  3067. # [23:10] <@bz> dolske: people send headers in all sorts of inconsistent encodings. :(
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  3069. # [23:10] <@bz> dolske: well, correction. No sane solution compatible with all deployed content.
  3070. # [23:10] <tbsaunde> bz: oh, ok, I was looking at some of the callers in nsDOMClass.cpp which looked a bit tricky
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  3072. # [23:10] <devd> bz: the spec doesn't seem to say anything as far as I can see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/content-security-policy/raw-file/tip/csp-specification.dev.html#syntax-and-algorithms
  3073. # [23:10] <@bz> tbsaunde: yeah, ignore everything outside dom/bindings for the etension bits
  3074. # [23:10] <@bz> devd: looking
  3075. # [23:11] <@bz> tbsaunde: er, exception
  3076. # [23:11] <@dolske> well, you've got to do some legwork to deploy SPDY, so I'd have assumed such changes could be made. but yeah, people would bitrot again.
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  3080. # [23:11] <@dolske> well, maybe if it was (russian-H)TTP/2.0... :D
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  3082. # [23:11] <devd> bz: CSP spec is what Firefox does ;)-- I am trying to understand what I changed
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  3084. # [23:11] <nmatsakis> What thread pools are there in FireFox today? Also, where are worker threads managed?
  3085. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: this spec is insane
  3086. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: imho. ;)
  3087. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: well, the old code used to byte-inflate
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  3089. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: right?
  3090. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: your code does a utf-8 to utf-16 conversion
  3091. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: as long as the header is ASCII there is no difference
  3092. # [23:12] <@bz> devd: the difference is in what happens when the header is non-ASCII
  3093. # [23:12] <@bz> So this spec says...
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  3095. # [23:13] <@bz> policy = [ directive *( ";" [ directive ] ) ]
  3096. # [23:13] <devd> bz: it is going to proposed recommendation .. you should file a complaint :)
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  3098. # [23:13] <@bz> directive = *WSP [ directive-name [ WSP directive-value ] ]
  3099. # [23:13] <@bz> directive-name = 1*( ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" )
  3100. # [23:13] * @bz will
  3101. # [23:13] <@bz> why hasn't anyone else who looked at this caught the problem?
  3102. # [23:13] <@bz> directive-value = *( WSP / <VCHAR except ";" and ","> )
  3103. # [23:14] <@bz> And it imports WSP and VCHAR by reference
  3104. # [23:14] <@bz> and those are:
  3105. # [23:14] <@bz> well, the WSP doesn't matter
  3106. # [23:14] <devd> Maybe I am confused, but isn't encoding orthogonal to the ABNF ?
  3107. # [23:14] <@bz> but VCHAR is:
  3108. # [23:14] <@bz> VCHAR = %x21-7E
  3109. # [23:14] <devd> ohh god
  3110. # [23:14] <@bz> Which means that this spec doesn't allow bytes outside that range
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  3112. # [23:14] <@bz> at all
  3113. # [23:14] <devd> bz: yes.. I got into trouble for mentioning that
  3114. # [23:14] <@bz> Which isn't helpful when a server _does_ send those bytes
  3115. # [23:15] <@bz> devd: oh?
  3116. # [23:15] <devd> I was more concerned about "no international domain names"
  3117. # [23:15] <devd> but that is easily fixed I guess
  3118. # [23:15] <@bz> devd: well, that's the obvious way that non-ascii would appear there
  3119. # [23:15] <@bz> devd: unless punycoded
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  3121. # [23:15] <devd> yeah which is annoying
  3122. # [23:16] <devd> but so I was thinking more about meta tag
  3123. # [23:16] <@bz> so what is this trouble you got into?
  3124. # [23:16] * @bz would like to understand stuff like this before jumping in with a formal objection
  3125. # [23:16] <@bz> And again, who was looking at this spec from our side, and why did they let this slip through? :(
  3126. # [23:17] <@bz> Does anyone other than us implement this?
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  3128. # [23:17] <@bz> OK
  3129. # [23:17] <devd> Chrome
  3130. # [23:17] <@bz> so going back to the syntax in the spec...
  3131. # [23:17] <@bz> ok
  3132. # [23:17] <@bz> how does Chrome behave for non-ASCII here?
  3133. # [23:18] <@bz> source-list = *WSP [ source-expression *( 1*WSP source-expression ) *WSP ]
  3134. # [23:18] <@bz> / *WSP "'none'" *WSP
  3135. # [23:18] <@bz> ...
  3136. # [23:18] <@bz> host = "*" / [ "*." ] 1*host-char *( "." 1*host-char )
  3137. # [23:18] <@bz> host-char = ALPHA / DIGIT / "-"
  3138. # [23:18] <devd> thats the thing though
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  3140. # [23:18] <devd> if it is non-ascii, it is not a valid policy
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  3142. # [23:18] <devd> and you can ignore it all
  3143. # [23:18] <@bz> right
  3144. # [23:18] <@bz> but right now, do we do that?
  3145. # [23:18] <@bz> does Chrome do that?
  3146. # [23:18] <devd> the point is, I am surprised "WSP" is defined in bytes: it should really be unicode code points
  3147. # [23:18] <devd> isn't that what it is ?
  3148. # [23:19] <@bz> WSP is defined as bytes
  3149. # [23:19] <@bz> because everything IETF does is in bytes
  3150. # [23:19] <@bz> basically
  3151. # [23:19] <devd> uggh: well if you get a UTF-16 document with a CSP policy in the meta tag ... what do you do ?
  3152. # [23:20] <devd> also, do you know whats the mxr equiv for Chrome ?
  3153. # [23:20] <@bz> well
  3154. # [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/29f659b8522f - Brad Lassey - bug 788666 - Multiple APK: Each APK must not exactly match the configuration support of another APK r=mbrubeck a=lsblakk
  3155. # [23:20] <@bz> in order
  3156. # [23:20] <@bz> 1) This is why things should be defined on chars, not bytes, and this spec is insane.
  3157. # [23:21] <devd> by chars, you mean Unicode code points ?
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  3159. # [23:21] <biesi> devd, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/source/search
  3160. # [23:21] <@bz> devd: yes
  3161. # [23:21] <@bz> devd: and what biesi said
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  3166. # [23:22] <@bz> devd: but I'm still trying to understand how this spec is supposed to work
  3167. # [23:22] <@bz> devd: say the policy _is_ all ASCII
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  3169. # [23:22] * @bz reads 3.2.2.2
  3170. # [23:22] <@bz> OK, that assumes you have a URI
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  3174. # [23:23] <@bz> Which is moderately unfortunate, since getting your hands on a URI is hard work
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  3176. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16a30bcf73d7 - Doug Turner - Bug 774368 - Calling removeMessageListener after test completes. r=smaug
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  3178. # [23:23] <@bz> yeah, this is just nonsense
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  3182. # [23:24] <devd> wait wut
  3183. # [23:24] <@bz> which more or less guarantees lack of interop in non-English cases
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  3185. # [23:24] <devd> I think the lack of interop is a design decision
  3186. # [23:24] <devd> or something like that
  3187. # [23:24] <@bz> uh
  3188. # [23:24] <@bz> say what?
  3189. # [23:24] <@bz> I mean...
  3190. # [23:24] <@bz> it can be
  3191. # [23:25] <@bz> but it doesn't mean I shouldn't formally object to such a design decision.
  3192. # [23:25] <@bz> devd: that code you linked me to...
  3193. # [23:25] <@bz> devd: already has a Unicode string
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  3195. # [23:26] <@bz> devd: in Chrome
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  3197. # [23:26] <devd> bz: that is the point right, this is why WSP should be unicode code points
  3198. # [23:27] <@bz> devd: but it errors out on non-ASCII chars in host
  3199. # [23:27] <devd> bz: yes ..
  3200. # [23:27] <@bz> devd: but not in path, afaict
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  3202. # [23:27] <devd> bz: given bytes that are supposed to be CSP policy, converting to unicode string is done based on whatever was done for HTTP headers or Meta tags
  3203. # [23:28] <devd> bz: after that the spec says "if its not all ASCII chars, its broken and ignore it"
  3204. # [23:28] <@bz> HTTP headers don't have a defined way to do that
  3205. # [23:28] <@bz> ah
  3206. # [23:28] <@bz> ok
  3207. # [23:28] <@bz> hmm
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  3209. # [23:28] <devd> that is my reading of the spec at least
  3210. # [23:28] <@bz> Do we ignore it if it contains non-ASCII?
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  3212. # [23:28] <@bz> Because it sure doesn't look like Chrome does for non-ASCII in paths
  3213. # [23:28] <biesi> there is a spec to do it for HTTP
  3214. # [23:29] <biesi> though there's probably five different ways to do it in practice
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  3216. # [23:29] <devd> bz: also, btw, the spec doesn't allow puny encoded sources either
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  3219. # [23:29] <devd> bz: paths are anyways not used currently
  3220. # [23:29] <devd> bz: that is in future versions
  3221. # [23:29] <@bz> oh
  3222. # [23:29] <@bz> I see
  3223. # [23:30] <devd> bz: also, see https://bug737064.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=652265
  3224. # [23:30] <@bz> as in, nothing uses that path production?
  3225. # [23:30] <devd> rather, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737064
  3226. # [23:30] <devd> bz: nope, afaik. Its for forward compat as far as I can tell
  3227. # [23:30] <@bz> ok
  3228. # [23:30] <@bz> So I still think this spec is insane
  3229. # [23:31] <devd> please please email the WG this
  3230. # [23:31] <@bz> ok
  3231. # [23:31] <@bz> will do
  3232. # [23:31] <devd> I think Adam is writing the spec, and writing the code for Chrome
  3233. # [23:31] <devd> Firefox is really the only other implementation
  3234. # [23:31] <@bz> right
  3235. # [23:31] <@smaug> (sounds like a rather normal spec.)
  3236. # [23:31] <@bz> So is there reasoning behind the ascii-only bits?
  3237. # [23:32] <@bz> That I should know about?
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  3239. # [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c43988d1b0b7 - Chris Peterson - Bug 788600 - Backout ad4fd5dcc088 (Bug 769520 Part 2) a=lsblakk
  3240. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dd8f72317c3f - Chris Peterson - Bug 788600 - Backout b9ad5793fbba (Bug 769520 Part 1) a=lsblakk
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  3243. # [23:34] <devd> bz: ok .. second point, the swap thing. I think you assume a level of knowledge with XPCom that I don't have
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  3245. # [23:34] <devd> smaug told me about NS_IF_REF, can you tell me why swap is better ?
  3246. # [23:35] <@smaug> I only saw code which assigned a member variable (nsCOMPtr) to out param
  3247. # [23:36] <@bz> devd: because it doesn't do extra refcounting
  3248. # [23:36] <@bz> devd: and because it's more easily proven non-leaky
  3249. # [23:36] <@bz> devd: basically, make your code like so:
  3250. # [23:36] <@bz> nsCOMPtr<whatever> foo;
  3251. # [23:36] <@bz> // set up foo however you want.
  3252. # [23:36] <@bz> foo.forget(outparam);
  3253. # [23:36] <@bz> (don't even need swap in this case, actually)
  3254. # [23:37] <devd> forget ?
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  3259. # [23:38] <dholbert> forget = clear my own copy of the pointer, without decreasing its refcount
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  3261. # [23:39] <dholbert> devd, ^ (and if forget() is given an argument, it'll copy the pointer there before forgetting it)
  3262. # [23:39] <devd> aah ok
  3263. # [23:39] <dholbert> (otherwise, when the nsCOMPtr goes out of scope, it'll decrement the refcount and delete the object)
  3264. # [23:40] <devd> dholbert: thanks!
  3265. # [23:40] <dholbert> np!
  3266. # [23:40] <dholbert> (avoids the need for hand-addref'ing)
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