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# Session Start: Fri Sep 07 00:00:01 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:01] <@bz> lol
# [00:01] <Waldo> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1807917 is kind of obscene
# [00:02] <Waldo> too bad philor|away is, I'm missing some snark here
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# [00:04] <catlee> ehsan: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1807918 number of hours of try jobs for the past week
# [00:04] <@ehsan> catlee: wow
# [00:04] <@ehsan> catlee: food for though
# [00:04] <@ehsan> catlee: or a blog post ;)
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# [00:05] <@dolske> wow indeed. I had no idea sicking ever used Try! ;)
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# [00:06] <@bz> 1200?
# [00:06] <@bz> man
# [00:06] <@ehsan> catlee: I am at 214... need to cut that down
# [00:06] <@ehsan> catlee: *please* blog this
# [00:06] <@bz> oh, hours of try jobs
# [00:06] <@bz> not number of try jobs
# [00:06] <catlee> in a week
# [00:06] <@bz> I would be interested in both, actually
# [00:07] <@bz> hours and hours per job
# [00:07] <@smaug> 406... surprisingly many hours
# [00:07] <catlee> ehsan: sure
# [00:07] <@bz> because that would tell me whether I'm pushing too many times
# [00:07] <catlee> tomorrow!
# [00:07] <@bz> or whether I'm not using trychooser well
# [00:07] <qDot> You realize this calls for an 8-bit style high score page, right?
# [00:07] <geekboy> that's awesome
# [00:07] <nthomas> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/reports/pushes gets you push counts
# [00:07] <catlee> qDot: exactly!
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# [00:07] <@bz> hmm
# [00:07] <qDot> Complete with "You won!" bleepy music and the ability to input ASS as your initials.
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# [00:07] <@bz> so the people who are not on this list..
# [00:08] <catlee-away> hook it into browserquest
# [00:08] <@bz> how do they differ from the ones that are 0?
# [00:08] <@smaug> try has been fast recently, so maybe people are also using it more again
# [00:08] <@bz> nthomas: by person?
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# [00:08] <@dolske> catlee-away: while people are signing you up for work ;-), it would be interesting to linkify people to see what they're doing
# [00:08] <catlee-away> bz: I don't know...I suspect because they cancelled jobs before they started
# [00:08] <nthomas> oh whoops
# [00:08] <@bz> catlee-away: ah, ok
# [00:09] <firebot> Check-in:
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc088d2b2006 - Chris Jones - Bug 789130: Unregister hal observers on HalParent::ActorDestroy(), and make Unregister*() functions resilient to unregister-of-not-registered observers. r=jlebar
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bce26e37922 - Nils Maier - Bug 719180 - Part 1: Correct jar channel stream ownership. r=tglek
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca630290d89d - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 788854 - Escape backslash in filenames, r=mdas, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c19cd5477c1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7810fee7ee9 - gliuwr@gmail.com - Bug 788430 - Fix a minor bug in the MozillaMaintenanceService error handling. r=bbondy
# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a737ee5d9b1 - Nils Maier - Bug 719180 - Part 2: Add jar channel unit tests. r=tglek
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# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25fd2119c8e1 - Luqman Aden - Bug 714937 - Replace GFX_PACKED_PIXEL with an inline function. r=jrmuizel
# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d4ae78b85de - Martin Stransky - Bug 433129 - Add a storage.nfs_filesystem preference and change the underlying file system to an nfs-friendly one when it's set. r=asuth
# [00:10] * @dolske loads tbpl try... 8 pushes from gps on first page :)
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# [00:11] <gps> dolske: it's because I'm collecting data to back up my assertion that ccache slows down builds :)
# [00:12] <gps> so far the results say 18% faster build times with ccache disabled :D
# [00:12] <@bz> gps: on the builders, you mean?
# [00:12] <gps> bz: yes, on the builders
# [00:12] * @bz buys that
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# [00:12] <gps> of course, Try could be special. but, I want data to back up my suggestion to disable it universally for a few days to see if it makes average builds faster
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# [00:13] <@bz> well
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# [00:13] <@bz> it always does clobber builds
# [00:13] <@bz> so it's _slightly_ special
# [00:15] <gps> true. but when you figure ccache is just a hedge that the build system is stupid and doesn't properly recognize dependencies (which ours arguably does), then the usefulness of ccache is diminished
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# [00:16] <gps> i.e. ccache saves you from a build system that's dumb enough to build the same exact things multiple times
# [00:16] <gps> in our case, clobber builds for a tree that has already been built
# [00:16] <@dolske> we just need ccachecache, that will fox our problems.
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# [00:17] <@bz> gps: in the builder case, mostly yes
# [00:17] <@bz> gps:
# [00:17] <@bz> gps: (though possibly not on try)
# [00:17] <tbsaunde> gps: well, ccache is slightly better than that if its caching after the preprocessor runs
# [00:18] <@bz> gps: in that you can have files change mtime on try without changing content, right?
# [00:19] <gps> bz: I don't know
# [00:19] <Mook_as> in theory, it also caches across clobber builds, assuming all the inputs are the same. (of course, that assumes dealing with the cache is faster)
# [00:19] <@bz> I mean, say I push a patch
# [00:19] <@bz> which changes nsINode and foo.cpp
# [00:19] <@bz> tests fail
# [00:19] <@bz> I push a new patch with the same nsINode change but a different foo.cpp change
# [00:20] <@bz> seems like updating to that head may change mtime on nsINode
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# [00:20] <gps> also, ccache seems to add about 7.8GB of write I/O to builds
# [00:20] <@bz> depending on exact mechanics
# [00:20] <@bz> right
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# [00:20] <@bz> that's a bigger issue
# [00:20] <@bz> and these are not things with fast disks, I bet
# [00:20] <Waldo> /home/jwalden/moz/slots/gcc-dbg/toolkit/library/nsUnicharUtils.cpp:50:1: warning: always_inline function might not be inlinable [-Wattributes]
# [00:20] <Waldo> that's...an interesting warning
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# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b7daf566e84a - Brad Lassey - bug 788666 - Multiple APK: Each APK must not exactly match the configuration support of another APK r=mbrubeck a=lsblakk
# [00:21] <gps> bz: correct. no SSDs in the builders
# [00:21] <gps> I've even heard rumors networked attached storage may be involved in some places
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# [00:24] <nthomas> I don't think so. There are hardware machines that are truly stand alone, and there are VMs on AWS (all bets off there)
# [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f18c63c99be6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 789257 - Remove some unneeded includes on Windows; r=bbondy
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# [00:26] <tbsaunde> bz: so, a bunch of these calls to Throw() are after trying to unwrap stuff with things like xpc_qsUnwrapArg() is it good enough to have a generic "failed to call method bar on interface foo" type message there, or do I need to somehow figure out waht the various nsresults it returns means and handle them differently?
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# [00:28] <tbsaunde> bz: for example see CodeGen.py:1524 and the use of codeOnFailure in __str__
# [00:33] <@bz> tbsaunde: In the FailureFatal thing?
# [00:34] <@bz> tbsaunde: that can just report something like "Wrong type of object"...
# [00:34] <@bz> tbsaunde: I think
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# [00:35] <tbsaunde> bz: yes, there's also several other places in the code gen that look very similar to me
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# [00:36] <@bz> tbsaunde: it's a tradeoff between making it easy for web developers to debug their code and making our code simple....
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# [00:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f7e341a22ff - Luqman Aden - Bug 786897 - Command line option -private crashes, if privacy mode is enabled in preferences. r=ehsan
# [00:45] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: I've written a helper user script for GreaseMonkey.
# [00:45] <philor> Waldo: sorry, but I've got nothing for that crap, other than to note that most of the bug numbers are small, so most people have stopped pretending
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# [00:46] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: it checks the patches against try http://reactiveprogramming.org/examples/bugzilla_try_helper.user.js
# [00:46] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> It seems to give false negatives in some cases like pushing to try from git.
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# [00:48] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: but it does pick up a lot of patches against Try.
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# [00:52] <RyanVM> cool :)
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# [00:53] <Waldo> kentuckyfriedtakahe: git seems like a true negative to me</troll>
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# [00:53] <jhammel> Waldo++
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# [00:54] <jhammel> to paraphrase linus: "I see [git] as being the most pointless project ever started"
# [00:54] <RyanVM> crap, orange
# [00:54] <reuben> mfinkle: I was banned from #mobile a few weeks ago, probably because my ZNC was acting funny and spamming IRC with joins/quits. can you unban me? :)
# [00:54] <RyanVM> and makign dinner atm
# [00:56] <philor> ehsan needs to back out anyway, maybe he'll take you out too
# [00:57] <Waldo> man, hard to believe git's seven years old now
# [00:57] <@ehsan> philor: oops, will back out
# [00:58] <@ehsan> RyanVM: what do I need to backout from that push?
# [00:58] <@ehsan> all of it?
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# [01:02] <philor> ehsan: shutdown timeout? yeah, all of it except the merge from m-c, I'd guess
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# [01:02] <@ehsan> philor: alright
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# [01:03] <philor> or maybe that too, since it was DONTBUILD so we have NOIDEA if it really was NPOTB :)
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# [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d89388539eea - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset f18c63c99be6 (bug 789257) for breaking the builds
# [01:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d37cd3f56b32 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset 1bce26e37922 (bug 719180 part 1) for possible orange
# [01:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9368efb05a07 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset 2a737ee5d9b1 (bug 719180 part 2) for possible orange
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# [01:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6e4864101e1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset 25fd2119c8e1 (bug 714937) for possible orange
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# [01:04] <RyanVM> ehsan: thanks, I'll try to figure out what broke it later
# [01:04] <@ehsan> cool
# [01:05] <jorendorff> is there any way to see if there are any pending timeouts?
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# [01:11] <Waldo> oh, clang, why can't you produce binaries that I can debug :-(
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# [01:13] <@ehsan> Waldo: what platform?
# [01:14] <Waldo> ehsan: fedora 17ish
# [01:14] <Waldo> whatever the latest stable is
# [01:14] <@ehsan> ok, then I have no idea!
# [01:14] <@dbaron> has anybody else been seeing firefox hang every time the helper apps dialog comes up?
# [01:14] <@dbaron> I've hit this three times this week
# [01:14] <kinetik> Waldo: what build flags are you using?
# [01:14] <@dbaron> hanging in __libc_fork
# [01:15] <sfink> dbaron: I've seen something similar, where it hangs whenever starting up any helper app
# [01:15] <@dbaron> sfink, yeah
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# [01:15] <@dbaron> sfink, that's what I meant, I think
# [01:15] <sfink> dbaron: but I've seen that for months. I thought it was related to having the profiler enabled. Not sure if I've seen it since I disabled it.
# [01:15] <Waldo> kinetik: enable-debug, disable-optimize, enable-valgrind, bog-standard
# [01:15] <@dbaron> sfink, hmmm, it might be related to having the profiler enabled, now that you mention it
# [01:16] <@dbaron> sfink, either that, or running Ubuntu 12.04 rather than 11.10
# [01:16] <Waldo> possibly updating my clang tree would help, it's a few months old now, I guess
# [01:16] <@dbaron> sfink, I upgraded pretty recently
# [01:16] <sfink> dbaron: I'm on Fedora 16, fwiw
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# [01:17] <kinetik> Waldo: ah, that seems to work for me on f17, but i'm using tip builds of clang and gdb, maybe that makes a difference
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# [01:17] <Waldo> tip gdb? I'm already using a tip compiler, how could a tip debugger be any scarier?
# [01:18] <Waldo> maybe I'll set that up sometime and see if it works
# [01:18] <padenot> same here, using stock clang and gdb from the last ubuntu, it works just fine
# [01:18] <jhammel> make sure to use the tip of whatever VCS they're in too :P
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# [01:18] <@dbaron> sfink, of course, now I can't repro the bug at will
# [01:18] <Waldo> must I really? that would seem a pretty bizarre requirement
# [01:19] <kinetik> i did find that -fasan produces undebuggable builds, presumably the instrumentation requires the optimizer
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# [01:19] <sfink> dbaron: yeah, I had that issue too. For a long time, any mailto: url would trigger it, and then one day that stopped breaking. But other things still triggered it sporadically.
# [01:20] <DWK> Hi there, I am having a problem with my extension. Firefox says I should use the "__exposedProps__" property when adding javascript to a webpage. I did it for the functions that i added (wrapped them in an object and added them via *browser*.contentDocument.defaultView.wrappedJSObject.*object* = {...})
# [01:20] <sfink> dbaron: I was reporting some of what I saw in bug 757186
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# [01:27] <DWK> Timeout, sry... Did anyone respond to my question?
# [01:27] <nthomas> not yet
# [01:28] <sfink> DWK: I don't think your question made it through. I just saw 1 line with no question.
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# [01:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: funny enough, you left in the patch I was suspecting the most :P
# [01:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: we shall see :)
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# [01:29] <@ehsan> RyanVM: which one is that?
# [01:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: bug 433129
# [01:30] <@ehsan> hmm
# [01:30] <@ehsan> RyanVM: shit, I did that by accident :(
# [01:30] <RyanVM> heh
# [01:30] <dholbert> DWK, yeah, I saw no question either
# [01:30] <RyanVM> well, it shoudl be telling!
# [01:30] <@ehsan> we'll know in a few minutes though
# [01:30] <RyanVM> ehsan: maintenanceservice is windows-only, right?
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# [01:30] <dholbert> DWK, oh, now I see your question. Nope, no one responded while you were disconnected
# [01:31] <DWK> I'll try it again... I've got a problem with my extension. Newest Firefox-Version tells me that I should use __exposedProps__ when adding javascript to a page. So i created a wrappedJsObject. That is working like it should. But is there any way to rewrite to following code so that it works?
# [01:31] <@ehsan> RyanVM: yes, and also npotb for everything except for a few xpcshell tests
# [01:31] <DWK> http://mibpaste.com/zpnY4J
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# [01:31] <RyanVM> ehsan: OK, 714937 actually did have a fully green Try run, so it was either 433129 or 719180
# [01:32] <@ehsan> hard to make a guess
# [01:32] <RyanVM> ehsan: also assuming it's not some weird clobber issue
# [01:32] <Mook_as> DWK: can the content actually load the script from chrome:// ? (is your package marked as contentaccessible in your chrome.manifest?)
# [01:32] <@ehsan> hehe
# [01:32] <DWK> Yes, it is marked as contentaccessible.
# [01:32] <RyanVM> ehsan: at least it blows up badly enough that Try should be able to tell us prety fast
# [01:33] <DWK> Mook_as: Until the newest Version it worked... :/
# [01:33] <marco> do you know what exceptions could JSON.parse throw?
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# [01:35] <hobophobe> This test: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/661103ac1caa#l3.1 results in this crash: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15028127&tree=Try#error1
# [01:36] <hobophobe> But I can't recreate it running the test locally...
# [01:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fe2906b0cb2 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 789248. Fix failing social tests by only updating the status panel on tests that require it and are sure to clear it up afterwards. r=felipe
# [01:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f4e9fea220b - Shane Caraveo - Bug 789308. Fix reversed socialFrameShow/Hide events. r=felipe
# [01:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d0471602053 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 766616. Part 1. Implement about:socialerror page. r=mixedpuppy
# [01:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e30a0c22e414 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 786207. Display name in share panel is white on gray on OSX. r=felipe
# [01:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec01a56ff70d - Shane Caraveo - Bug 787272. Disable recommend button on logout. r=jaws
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# [01:37] <hobophobe> Any general advice for debugging this? Add dump() calls to the test and try again just to see where it fails?
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# [01:38] <mbrubeck> hobophobe: Yeah, that's usually a good idea if you can't reproduce it locally.
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# [01:39] <hobophobe> Thanks mbrubeck
# [01:40] <mbrubeck> hobophobe: The debug build had slightly more logging... probably not enough to be helpful: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15028737&tree=Try#error0
# [01:40] <RyanVM> ehsan: looking good for 719180!
# [01:40] <@ehsan> yep!
# [01:40] <@ehsan> phew
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# [01:40] <mbrubeck> hobophobe: Maybe you'll get some insight into https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720991
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# [01:42] <RyanVM> ehsan: I re-pushed 714937, so if that burns the world, we should clobber next
# [01:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a52b3e3632d5 - Luqman Aden - Bug 714937 - Replace GFX_PACKED_PIXEL with an inline function. r=jrmuizel
# [01:42] <RyanVM> i also pushed 719180 to try to confirm
# [01:42] <DWK> What is the correct way to add a javascript (chrome-URL) to a webpage opened in a tab? Maybe i am thinking too complex :/
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# [01:44] <mbrubeck> DWK: You may need https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Chrome_Registration#contentaccessible
# [01:44] <mbrubeck> DWK: Does that help?
# [01:45] <azakai> is there a special word for when pushing a patch to aurora/beta?
# [01:45] <jhammel> "trouble" ;)
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# [01:45] <mbrubeck> azakai: You must have "a=" in your commit message
# [01:46] <azakai> mbrubeck: sorry, no, i meant - what is that called? (in english) i seem to remember a better word than "pushed to aurora"
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# [01:46] <mbrubeck> It should be followed by the name of the person who granted approval-mozilla-(aurora|beta)
# [01:46] <KWierso|Home> uplifted?
# [01:46] <mbrubeck> We say "uplift" a lot
# [01:46] <azakai> ah uplifted, yeah, that's what i was looking for
# [01:46] <azakai> thanks
# [01:46] <azakai> was typing a comment in a bug and got stuck on this
# [01:46] <@dolske> mbrubeck: true, we've really uplifted the word.
# [01:47] <DWK> mbrubeck: I have done this... The Script is appended to the document correctly and I can access it via the webconsole but I am unable to inject a javascript into the page that uses the included script (whoa hard to explain... searching for a code snippet)
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# [01:48] <KWierso|Home> DWK: you might also try asking in #extdev
# [01:49] <DWK> Ok, the jquery-JS is appended to the head section of the page and i am trying to add a new function that makes use of it: http://mibpaste.com/CcpiJu
# [01:49] <DWK> KWierso|Home: thanks, i'll give it a try
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# [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/438bc47f1a28 - David Anderson - Add bogus --disable-ion build flag (bug 789319, r=sstangl).
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# [01:55] <catlee-away> gps: before we enabled ccache on the builders we did timings that showed a significant speedup by enabling it for linux...I wonder what's changed
# [01:55] <catlee-away> are you grabbing the ccache stats at the end?
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# [01:59] <gps> catlee-away: no, I didn't look at the ccache stats
# [02:00] <gps> it's possible the CCACHE_CPP2 change (around the time we switched the OS X builders to Clang) might have made a significant difference
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# [02:00] <catlee-away> gps: which platform are you looking at? just osx?
# [02:00] <gps> just OS X
# [02:00] <gps> I can't get Linux numbers on releng infra b/c no Python 2.7 :(
# [02:01] <catlee-away> you can still get build times
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# [02:01] <catlee-away> the most important metric is wall clock time
# [02:03] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> Waldo: I don't have strong feelings about git or hg.
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# [02:03] <Waldo> :-)
# [02:03] <Waldo> I wasn't trolling you *specifically* ;-)
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# [02:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: sorry. I had to duck out. So I don't know if you've used greasemonkey before but if you install that then the script should mark patches which match the ones in try.
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# [02:04] <Waldo> although maybe you're trolling me; do you not have strong feelings about your text editor of choice, either?
# [02:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> Waldo: Well I use anything except emacs.
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# [02:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> but no I don't have strong feelings about that either.
# [02:05] <Waldo> :-O
# [02:05] <catlee-away> gps: looks like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15026033&tree=Try had good cache hit% at least
# [02:05] <Waldo> maybe "except emacs" is good enough ;-)
# [02:05] <catlee-away> so if the build times there are slower, that's not good
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# [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8943f92197c3 - Nick Thomas - Bug 770996, force firefox binary on Mac so that partner builds can use partials, r=catlee NPOTB
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# [02:09] <gps> catlee-away: is that for a clobber?
# [02:10] <gps> I suspect that disabling ccache would yield faster incremental builds and slower clobber builds
# [02:10] <gps> I'm not sure how it would balance out
# [02:10] <catlee-away> gps: all try builds are clobbers
# [02:10] <catlee-away> I would think that ccache would give you better clobber times
# [02:10] <catlee-away> since you're saving a lot of cpu time for compiling
# [02:11] <gps> err, I said that wrong
# [02:11] <nthomas> RyanVM: what's the magic word to leave bugs open after they get merged from inbound to m-c ?
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# [02:11] <RyanVM> [leave open]
# [02:11] <nthomas> thx
# [02:11] <gps> no, I said it right
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# [02:11] <gps> put another way, ccache helps with clobber builds but hurts for incremental builds
# [02:12] <catlee-away> yeah
# [02:12] <gps> assuming the cache is relatively fresh
# [02:12] <catlee-away> since you have to save the .o twice
# [02:12] <catlee-away> could look at using the hardlink mode
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# [02:12] <gps> basically optimal ccache is doing a clobber build on a tree you just built
# [02:13] <catlee-away> but if your try pushes are showing an improvement by disabling ccache...
# [02:13] <catlee-away> that means that ccache is also hurning clobber builds
# [02:13] <gps> I suspect those builders hadn't bult a "near" version of that tree recently: i.e. it wasn't in ccache
# [02:14] <catlee-away> how big is an objdir on osx?
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# [02:14] <gps> I hit one builder twice with 2 try pushes and the 2nd build (both with ccache) was about 50% as long
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# [02:15] <catlee-away> (builder == build slave?)
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# [02:15] <gps> objdir size varies with what you are building
# [02:15] <gps> builder = build slave
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# [02:15] <gps> we do some much extra junk on the build slaves that I don't think running du on my MBP would be accurate. log in to a build slave and look?
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# [02:16] <reuben> catlee-away: 1.99GB for a debug objdir built with clang over here
# [02:17] <catlee-away> so our ccache is 10G
# [02:17] <catlee-away> it compresses the files
# [02:17] <catlee-away> but I wonder how many builds that is
# [02:18] <catlee-away> esp. with OSX having two arches
# [02:18] <gps> I typically get ~1.5GB in ccache for every build
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# [02:19] <catlee-away> well, the same try machine has...5 different types of builds
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# [02:20] <catlee-away> and regular machines will have that * number of branches
# [02:20] <gps> are you sure that the CCACHE_* variables are being exported to the build properly? client.mk does weird things to sanitize the environment and external variables can sometimes get dropped
# [02:21] <catlee-away> pretty sure
# [02:21] <catlee-away> otherwise ccache stats would be off
# [02:21] <sfink> the builds zero out the stats at the beginning and dump them at the end
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# [02:22] <sfink> and the random build I'm looking at has a bunch of hits reported, so it looks good
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# [02:24] <gps> I'm convinced that there are so many variables involved with ccache that there is no hard or fast rule
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# [02:24] <gps> the best we can do is measure a large sample set of various settings combinations and make an informed decision
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# [02:25] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: the push for 714937 came back green (at least for the jetpack tests)
# [02:25] <RyanVM> KWierso: yeah, it's green on other tests too
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# [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99c990768356 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 761155 - Extend Mesa LLVMpipe Preference to GLX r=bjacob
# [02:28] <njn> glob|away: "[69447] Make CC changes not cause midairs" -- woo!
# [02:28] <Callek> yea glob's awesome
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# [02:29] <Callek> +n
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# [02:45] <RyanVM> sweet, robocop orange
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# [02:51] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, it's sriram just like it looks like, and he wants an escort out of the tree, it's just that nobody knows how to spell hg backout
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# [02:52] <mbrubeck> RyanVM++
# [02:52] <gkw> sewardj: never mind, sent mail
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# [02:57] <mbrubeck> Hmm, did I break the appbar somehow? I'm not seeing it anymore in my local build.
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# [03:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8464ed98f78b - Jeff Walden - Fix clang warnings on extraneous semicolons after member function definitions, implicit NULL-to-bool conversions, and the utter deadwood-ness of PCStack::cx. No bug,
# [03:09] <firebot> r=themaid, r=sfink
# [03:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76c080138e14 - Jeff Walden - Add #include guards to jsversion.h. No bug, r=howtheheckwerethesenottherebefore
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# [03:22] <Asa> ten years ago, we lowered the value of PAINTLOCK_EVENT_DELAY nglayout.initialpaint.delay from 1200ms to 250ms. presumably bandwidth is better today than then. should we consider further lowering? (context https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180241 )
# [03:22] <Asa> dbaron: or bz: or jesup: you guys might be the best to answer that ^^
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# [03:23] <@dolske> it's been mentioned a few times in recent history, not sure if we actually changed it or not.
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# [03:24] <@dbaron> Asa, I think we really need to rethink the whole thing... I think parameters we have available for tuning aren't really the right set of parameters to tune.
# [03:24] <@dbaron> Asa, I had a plan back in ~2007 or so, but I've forgotten most of it...
# [03:25] <@bz> Asa: bandwidth is not the gating factor; latency is
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# [03:25] <@bz> Asa: so we start parsing the document
# [03:25] <@bz> Asa: and loading stylesheets
# [03:25] <Asa> dbaron: OK. When I come back from using other browsers (primarily chrome and IE 10) I feel like they get content above the fold much faster than we do
# [03:25] <@bz> Asa: what's your ping time to cnn.com ?
# [03:25] <@bz> Asa: that's a separate issue
# [03:25] <Asa> ok.
# [03:26] <@bz> Asa: have you tried lowering your paint delay to see whether that's the main issue?
# [03:26] <@dbaron> bz, Do we still have content sink timers that aren't connected to the refresh driver?
# [03:26] <Asa> bz: I did, but I can't really tell a difference.
# [03:26] <@bz> asa: because I can think of at least 4 things that can cause such a difference
# [03:26] <@bz> Asa: starting with how much the parser parses at a shot
# [03:26] <Asa> but paint delay was the only one I knew to try.
# [03:26] <@bz> dbaron: we have something in the parser, yes
# [03:27] <@bz> dbaron: I'm not sure how it works now, but the html5 parser definitely optimizes for throughput
# [03:27] <@bz> dbaron: not quickly getting stuff into the DOM
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# [03:30] <@bz> ehsan: ping
# [03:31] <@bz> ehsan: which "that" is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778044#c15 about?
# [03:31] <@bz> ehsan: the first quoted paragraph or the second one?
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# [03:34] <@ehsan> bz: second one
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# [03:39] <@bz> ehsan: ok. Commenting in bug.
# [03:40] <@ehsan> ok
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# [03:47] <@bz> ok
# [03:47] <@bz> so who is a good reviewer for a patch that touches every mochitest that uses drawWindow?
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# [03:53] <tbsaunde> bz: I have a patch for the exception stuff for you, but I'm nto really sure how to test it, so I'm hesitant to ask you to review it yet
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# [03:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b95fb2e6e004 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 782860 - Add basic WebGL reftests - r=bjacob
# [03:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d82814a300c - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 782860 - Mark failing WebGL reftests as failing - r=bjacob
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# [04:05] <@bz> tbsaunde: yes, I saw
# [04:05] <@bz> tbsaunde: there's a good chance that running it will fail our automated tests
# [04:06] <@bz> tbsaunde: when it hits the relevant todo()s
# [04:06] <tbsaunde> bz: which tests?
# [04:06] <@bz> tbsaunde: So I'd start by pushing it to try on one platform and seeing what happens
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# [04:06] <@bz> tbsaunde: if it fails any, it would probably be the mochitests in /dom/imptests
# [04:07] * @bz assumes those are mochitests
# [04:07] <tbsaunde> bz: ok, I'll try those locally first just to see what happens
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# [04:07] <@bz> tbsaunde: ok. If none of those go orange, then we'll just have to add some tests to exercise this stuff. ;)
# [04:08] <@bz> tbsaunde: error console need not be involved: we just need to trigger the error in a try/catch and interrogate the exception.
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# [04:09] <tbsaunde> bz: ok
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# [04:09] <tbsaunde> bz: fwiw I have effectively 0 familiarity with DOM exceptions, and that was the only way I thought I knew of to look at them
# [04:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a3ce017ee82 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 786375 - Remove AutoScriptEvaluate::mContextHasThread since it is unused; r=bholley
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# [04:11] <@bz> tbsaunde: you can do this:
# [04:11] <@bz> try {
# [04:11] <@bz> somethingThatThrows();
# [04:11] <@bz> } catch (e) {
# [04:11] <@bz> // look at e.message, e.type, e.toString(), whatever
# [04:11] <@bz> }
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# [04:12] <tbsaunde> bz: ok
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# [04:14] <tbsaunde> bz: btw where does one get webidl for things we haven't converted yet?
# [04:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/36427d4b2cf6 - John Schoenick - Backout 827807082790 (bug 786650) for causing bug 789033
# [04:15] <@bz> tbsaunde: from the spec, ideally
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# [04:18] <tbsaunde> bz: do specs provide a file you can just dump in the tree, or to you have to read through the full spec and pull it out?
# [04:18] <@bz> tbsaunde: it depends on the spec
# [04:18] <@bz> tbsaunde: some have a file
# [04:18] <@bz> tbsaunde: some just have a big <pre> in the spec
# [04:18] <@bz> tbsaunde: some (like HTML5) are kinda annoying. ;)
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# [04:19] <tbsaunde> bz: ok
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# [04:23] <bsmith> What is the server that hosts the "playground" bugzilla instance where I can try out wierd bugzilla stuff without creating/editing production bugs?
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# [04:25] <KWierso|Home> bsmith: landfill.bugzilla.org
# [04:25] <Asa> bsmith: http://landfill.bugzilla.org/
# [04:25] <bsmith> ty
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# [04:42] <@bz> what the blank
# [04:42] <@bz> Oh, for crying out loud
# [04:42] <@bz> ok
# [04:43] <@bz> just to make sure I'm not on crack
# [04:43] <@bz> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/ca630290d89d/testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/specialpowersAPI.js#l824
# [04:43] <@bz> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/ca630290d89d/testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/specialpowersAPI.js#l1061
# [04:43] <@bz> Those _are_ identical, yes?
# [04:43] <mrbkap> bz: Yes.
# [04:43] <KWierso|Home> sure looks like it
# [04:43] * @bz cries
# [04:44] * @bz edited one...
# [04:44] <@bz> but then of course the other overrode it
# [04:44] <@bz> ok, then
# [04:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9c3f1cd372a - Isaac Aggrey - Bug 785131 - Don't process any node when aChildrenOnly is set; r=ehsan
# [04:46] <@bz> WHOOHOHO
# [04:46] <@bz> tests are passing
# [04:46] * @bz tests more tests
# [04:47] <tbsaunde> bz do we really want to make things like nsDOMStyleSheetList or all the css style rule classes inherit nsWrapperCache?
# [04:47] <@bz> tbsaunde: "yes"
# [04:48] <@bz> tbsaunde: that's actually needed in the long run to get them to behave right
# [04:48] <tbsaunde> bz: ok then :)
# [04:49] <tbsaunde> bz: looks like the exception stuff fails some tests which I'm looking at now
# [04:49] <@bz> tbsaunde: excellent
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# [05:04] <catlee-away> ehsan: http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html
# [05:05] <@ehsan> catlee-away: well done, sir!
# [05:05] <ewong> catlee-away: quick ping
# [05:05] <catlee-away> I hate js
# [05:05] <catlee-away> I'm probably doing it wrong
# [05:05] <catlee-away> ewong: pong
# [05:05] <@ehsan> catlee-away: use dart
# [05:05] <heycam> dbaron, a question about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655877#c217 -- is it that we need to construct the white space only line-ending frames if they have significant white space or significant newlines?
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# [05:06] <ewong> catlee-away: review ping for bug #704006?
# [05:06] <@dbaron> heycam, we need to construct them if they have significant anything, I think
# [05:06] <heycam> dbaron, ok. I'll add a new function on nsStyleText for that then.
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# [05:06] <@dbaron> heycam, previously having significant newlines was a test for "has significant whitespace"
# [05:06] <heycam> right
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# [05:07] <ewong> s/?//
# [05:08] <catlee-away> ewong: so the patch looks ok in general. we're trying to figure out if it should be landed here without first being landed upstream
# [05:08] <ewong> catlee-away: ok. thanks!
# [05:08] <catlee-away> in general we try and only use stuff from upstream
# [05:09] <ewong> catlee-away: so I should make a patch for upstream?
# [05:10] * @bz still seeks reviewer for mochitests involving drawImage
# [05:11] <@bz> er, drawWindow
# [05:11] <markh> sounds like a craigslist ad!
# [05:11] <tbsaunde> bz: one more question before I head out, do we have an easy way to map generated code back to where in the code gen it came from?
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# [05:12] <catlee-away> ewong: need to convince dustin of it first
# [05:13] <@bz> markh: something like that, yes
# [05:13] <ewong> catlee-away: alright..
# [05:13] <@bz> tbsaunde: not that I know of
# [05:13] <@bz> tbsaunde: though in many cases grep can work
# [05:13] <@bz> tbsaunde: if you have specific code you're looking at, just ask me?
# [05:13] * @bz can usually tell....
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# [05:16] <tbsaunde> bz: nah, I already found it
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# [05:18] <tbsaunde> bz: it looks like getErrorReport on line 2987 needs to be a bit smarter and handle different error codes differently
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# [05:18] <@bz> tbsaunde: that's quite possible
# [05:18] <tbsaunde> atleast that is the obvious solution
# [05:18] <@bz> Oh
# [05:18] <@bz> so.
# [05:18] <@bz> The ThrowMethodFailedWithDetails..
# [05:18] <@bz> Fixing _that_ part is hard
# [05:18] <@bz> I'd just leave it for now
# [05:19] <@bz> because that has an rv it got from the underlying DOM implementation
# [05:19] <@bz> which we have no control over
# [05:19] <@bz> We can start making a list there
# [05:19] <@bz> But I'd rather come up with a better mechanism.
# [05:19] <@bz> I'm just not sure what that mechanism is yet. ;)
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# [05:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6ad22f8f7b2 - Chris Jones - Bug 789368: Mind our fenceposts when estimating fps. r=jrmuizel
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# [05:25] <jgilbert> hah, off-by-one errors :P
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# [05:26] <nigelb> hehe
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# [05:27] <tbsaunde> bz: nsXPCException::NameAndFormatForNSResult is about what we want I think
# [05:27] <tbsaunde> or atleast the data in xpc.msg
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# [05:29] <@bz> tbsaunde: actually, that sort of thing is what I'd like to avoid if we can...
# [05:30] <tbsaunde> bz: oh?
# [05:30] <@bz> tbsaunde: it's .. had some issues in the past
# [05:30] <tbsaunde> ok
# [05:30] <@bz> tbsaunde: not least of which is ridiculous complexity
# [05:30] <tbsaunde> then I'll just leave that one as Throw() I guess
# [05:30] <@bz> anyone know of a bug where a review was done via splinter?
# [05:30] <@bz> yeah
# [05:30] <@bz> just leave that one for now
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# [05:31] <@bz> also, anyone know what bugzilla bmo is running?
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# [05:31] <biesi_> bz, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769764
# [05:31] <@bz> like which version?
# [05:31] <@bz> biesi: thanks!
# [05:32] <KWierso|Home> 4.0.8, according to the top-right corner of bmo
# [05:32] <@bz> aha
# [05:32] <KWierso|Home> bz: ^
# [05:32] <@bz> ok, I see
# [05:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f21fd828509b - Andres Hernandez - Bug 786418 - browser_newtab_focus.js shouldn't fail when FKA is enabled on Mac, r=enn
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# [05:38] <philor> dbaron: pretty much the first thing I saw after I saw that you closed the test_css_cross_domain.html bug was an Android run on inbound failing in test_css_cross_domain.html :|
# [05:39] <@dbaron> philor, cset?
# [05:39] <philor> of course, it's on a tegra with a number over 300, so if the test result was "OMG, philor, duck, there's an axe murderer right behind you starting a swing!" I'd ignore it
# [05:39] <philor> dbaron: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=3a3ce017ee82
# [05:40] <philor> these are the same tegras that mostly do reftests in an unrelieved solid white, too, so I'm not doing anything about it until I see it quite a few more times
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# [05:44] <@dbaron> philor, so they fail all the != tests?
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# [05:45] <philor> dbaron: no, sometimes they unexpectedly pass, too :)
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# [05:45] <philor> or rather, some tests, not sometimes
# [05:46] <mbrubeck> yeah, they UNEXPECTED-FAIL on != and UNEXPECTED-PASS on ==
# [05:47] <heycam> dbaron, I'm just trying to confirm that min/preferred sizes are calculated properly for white-space:-moz-pre-discard-newlines; using position:absolute should exercise the preferred size, and a table cell with width:1px the minimum size, is that right?
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# [05:47] <heycam> (there's probably more direct ways to do it...)
# [05:47] <@dbaron> heycam, most direct is probably width: -moz-min-content, width: -moz-max-content
# [05:47] <heycam> dbaron, aha, I'll try that
# [05:48] <heycam> dbaron, yeah they both seem to work, so I don't think any changes are needed for the min/preferred size calculations
# [05:49] <@dbaron> heycam, ok
# [05:50] <heycam> it seemed I had a slightly out of date patch on the bug though (my local one that those other comments you brought up fixed), sorry about that
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# [05:55] <philor> "b2g: it's the new fennec!"
# [05:55] <@bz> heh
# [05:55] <@bz> well, I may just have a bad qparent
# [05:55] <@bz> since I know I didn't change the gonk .cpp code that's failing to build..
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# [05:58] <glob> bz, fwiw bmo isn't exactly 4.0.8 .. it's 4.0 + a ton of backports from later versions + a ton of extensions
# [05:58] <@bz> sure
# [05:58] <@bz> it was more of a "which thing on landfill is closest to bmo?" kinda thing
# [05:59] <glob> bz, ah, you'd want bugzilla-stage-tip.mozilla.org
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# [05:59] <@bz> ah, that can be messed with?
# [05:59] <glob> bz, that's our public staging env. nothing on landfill is close to bmo (landfill's for upstream dev, we don't use it)
# [05:59] <glob> bz, go crazy
# [05:59] <@bz> glob: cool, thanks
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# [06:01] <philor> double your android tests, double your fun
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# [06:07] <cjones> anyone around want to admit to knowing about DOM setCapture()?
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# [06:08] <cjones> bz, bent dropped some burn on b2g yesterday
# [06:08] <@roc> neil deakin
# [06:08] <@roc> I know a bit about it too
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# [06:10] <cjones> what happens if a setCapture() element is destroyed or goes hidden?
# [06:10] <cjones> for example
# [06:10] <cjones> if i have tab A focused
# [06:10] <cjones> and start a touch series
# [06:10] <cjones> then an extension or something moves tab B into the foreground and tab A into the background
# [06:10] <cjones> what happens to the setCapture() element in A? what does it see?
# [06:11] <cjones> and what does tab B see
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# [06:13] <@bz> roc: if you're here...
# [06:13] <@bz> roc: I have a patch that changes some mochitests that use drawWindow
# [06:14] <@roc> ok
# [06:14] <@bz> roc: in fact, that's the only unifying theme of the patch
# [06:14] <@bz> roc: want to review?
# [06:14] <@roc> ok
# [06:14] <@bz> roc: btw, it also makes drawWindow not show up on the web
# [06:14] <@bz> roc: (that's the real goal; the other is side-effects)
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# [06:16] <@roc> cjones: as far as I know we don't have any special handling for that. "A" can keep capturing
# [06:17] <@roc> good
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# [06:19] <cjones> roc, ok, thanks
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# [06:20] <ewong> is it 'possible' to set up a try server locally?
# [06:22] <ewong> using hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom setup?
# [06:22] <ewong> (probably a dumb question..)
# [06:25] <philor> it should be exactly as possible as it would be to set up your own instance of buildbot for anything other than try, like say seamonkey
# [06:25] <philor> totally undocumented, and with nobody to help who is awake while you are, that is ;)
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# [06:26] <philor> oh, that's awesome, apparently ehsan broke test_css_cross_domain.html on Android
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# [06:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a64e93daf5c - L. David Baron - Remove last use of enablePrivilege in layout/style mochitests. (Bug 653461, patch 4) r=bzbarsky
# [06:27] <philor> pretty sweet, that removing an unused line and a half from xpcprivate.h can break something so far away
# [06:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3684a179853c - L. David Baron - Rename nsIPresShell::InitialReflow to Initialize since it doesn't actually perform reflow. (Bug 788956) r=roc
# [06:28] <@bz> philor: er?
# [06:28] <ewong> philor ah.. that's for the info..
# [06:28] <@bz> philor: are you just being sarcastic about randomorange? ;)
# [06:28] <philor> bz: I doubt it, I got in trouble for not paying enough attention to newly introduced failures in test_css_cross_domain.html just yesterday
# [06:29] <philor> and now I've got a new failure in it, and again on the next run on the next push
# [06:29] <@bz> philor: hmm
# [06:29] <@ehsan> philor: and a green one on the next push
# [06:30] <@ehsan> seems like a problem that happens when I push something!
# [06:30] <philor> you should probably use checkin-needed then ;)
# [06:31] <@bz> heh
# [06:31] <@ehsan> lol
# [06:31] <@ehsan> indeed
# [06:31] <tbsaunde> bz looks like using Throw() for that one spot makes all of dom/imptests pass
# [06:31] <@ehsan> or, get a third ldap account with a pseudonym
# [06:32] <philor> and because we love random, that fix I landed so a test will work when FKA is on on Mac, like it's on on the 10.8 slaves? it's not on on the 10.8 slaves, and it's totally random whether or not the test fails like it's on, even for a particular slave
# [06:33] * philor puts off updating to 10.8 even longer
# [06:33] <@bz> tbsaunde: hmm
# [06:33] <@bz> tbsaunde: sounds like we need more tests
# [06:34] <@bz> tbsaunde: I'll look at your patch tomorrow and see if I can recommend something, ok?
# [06:34] <KWierso|Home> philor: I've had no problems since updating to 10.8
# [06:34] <KWierso|Home> granted, I bootcamp'd Win8RTM soon after and never looked back
# [06:34] <KWierso|Home> but still
# [06:34] <philor> KWierso|Home: do you carefully test whether Fx acts like FKA is enabled, each time you start the browser?
# [06:35] <philor> ah, "I've had no problems after I didn't use it" :)
# [06:35] <@ehsan> philor: what's FKA?
# [06:35] <@dbaron> bz, so I'm going to try writing the patch for the bits thing for ForceCompare
# [06:35] <tbsaunde> bz: sure
# [06:36] <@bz> dbaron: sounds good to me. ;)
# [06:37] <philor> ehsan: Full Keyboard Access, the pref to make tabbing through every form control, including selects, work
# [06:38] <@bz> hrm
# [06:38] <@ehsan> philor: I see. I turned that on the first day I started to use a mac
# [06:38] <@bz> does it randomly end up on?
# [06:38] <@bz> or randomly off?
# [06:38] * @bz always sets it on
# [06:38] <@ehsan> cause the default settings are insane
# [06:38] <@bz> so I hope if I set it on it stays on....
# [06:38] <philor> ehsan: if you pull inbound tip, you'll be able to pass mochitest-other locally again
# [06:38] <@bz> ehsan: preach it!
# [06:39] <@ehsan> bz: I have been... "apple is arrogant" :)
# [06:39] <@ehsan> philor: hrm, what do you mean?
# [06:39] <@bz> ehsan: lol
# [06:40] <philor> ehsan: you've been failing browser_newtab_focus.js in browser-chrome since that test landed, now you won't
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# [06:41] <philor> whether it will have actually fixed whatever unimaginable thing is happening on the 10.8 slaves, that's another question
# [06:41] <@ehsan> I see
# [06:41] <@ehsan> I seriously should consider not pushing myself
# [06:42] <philor> yep, it's getting late, you shouldn't work for very much longer
# [06:42] <@ehsan> true
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# [06:50] <ewong> but buildbotcustom is specific to mozilla.. hrmmm
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# [06:58] <@roc> bz: how much of a performance difference is there, if any, for making a method infallible?
# [06:58] <@bz> roc: I haven't measured
# [06:58] <@bz> roc: I doubt there's much
# [06:58] <@bz> roc: especially not until ion lands
# [06:59] <@bz> roc: with ion, the jit will actually not generate exception-catching code for some infallible stuff
# [06:59] <@bz> roc: might be only for getters for now
# [06:59] <@bz> roc: not for methods
# [06:59] <@roc> when *is* Ion going to land, anyway
# [07:00] <philor> "for Fx 18"
# [07:00] <philor> so the theory says before October 8th
# [07:00] <@roc> excellent, in time for B2G
# [07:01] <philor> no, since i'm getting that from bug 789373 which is about managing to keep it off for b2g
# [07:02] <@roc> yeah, I was joking
# [07:02] <@bz> roc: actually...
# [07:02] <@bz> roc: b2g will have the ion code
# [07:02] <@bz> roc: but pref it off
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# [07:02] <@roc> right
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# [07:02] <@bz> roc: which means it'll ship a config not tested on desktop, yay
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# [07:03] <philor> that's fine, because it'll be tested by a second version of fennec that we won't ship!
# [07:04] * @bz wonders what it would take to give philor a cheerful disposition
# [07:04] <@dolske> hmm. wonder what we did with all those N900s...
# [07:04] <@roc> morphine
# [07:04] <@bz> Apart from lack of a DNS entry for tbpl.mozilla.org or something
# [07:04] <@bz> roc: heh
# [07:04] <philor> July. endless July.
# [07:05] <@dolske> July is fly-fishing month, no?
# [07:05] <@bz> I thought it was Eternal September now
# [07:05] <@dolske> no, Eternal September is over.
# [07:05] <cjones> roc, dlbi too
# [07:05] <cjones> lots of fun stuff
# [07:06] <@dolske> new meme: B2G shipped it first
# [07:07] <@bz> awesome
# [07:07] <@bz> WebIDL bindings for node heading B2G's way!
# [07:07] <cjones> can we get azure content landed soon too?
# [07:08] * @bz will settle for removal of non-azure canvas
# [07:08] <@bz> because then I can probably burn the xpidl for the 2d context with fire
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# [07:09] <@dolske> well
# [07:09] <@dolske> you'll have to print it first
# [07:09] <@dolske> and that's its own set of problems :D
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# [07:12] <@roc> bz: dunno if you noticed, but Azure canvas is enabled for all platforms now
# [07:12] <@roc> we're planning to remove the non-azure code in the next uplift
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# [07:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d9b336d8b4b - Cameron McCormack - Bug 655877 - Part 23a: Add white-space:-moz-pre-discard-newlines value with white space collapsing behavior like SVG's xml:space="preserve". r=roc,dbaron
# [07:53] <philor> \o/ our first intermittent failure in 10.8 Moth
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# [07:54] <philor> took one whole push after I unhid it
# [07:54] <KWierso|Home> the start of a beautiful relationship
# [07:54] <@dolske> philor: maybe I should start issing trophies for that.
# [07:55] <@dolske> issuing, even
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# [07:56] <KWierso|Home> better than loose bowels?
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# [08:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c1ed6327355 - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Recompute cross-compartment wrappers when UniversalXPConnect is enabled. r=mrbkap
# [08:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87aa103d7e87 - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Remove enablePrivilege from bug 585922 tests. r=mrbkap
# [08:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5853df66d488 - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Kill the XOW flag. r=mrbkap
# [08:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94cfcf5da7c8 - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Generate vanilla cross-compartment wrappers when UniversalXPConnect is enabled. r=mrbkap
# [08:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8fadd906232 - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Kill partially transparent wrappers. r=mrbkap
# [08:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d787279d282c - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Remove dynamic UniversalXPConnect checks sprinkled around the wrapper code. r=mrbkap
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# [08:33] <Jesse> njn: yeah, wtf
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# [08:34] <Jesse> njn: i'd be surprised if those ad-hoc styles survive l10n
# [08:34] <njn> Jesse: I'd be surprised if they survive anything
# [08:34] <Unfocused> if it didn't get appropriate review, back it out
# [08:35] * Unfocused has had to deal with that sort of thing before, not backed out, and regretted it
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# [08:35] <@dolske> hmmmmmm, well, what's the issue with it?
# [08:35] <njn> dolske: the buttons in about:memory looked funny on Android, so they applied ad hoc styling to it, with different style for each of the four buttons
# [08:35] <@dolske> sounds like it was kind of busted on mobile before, so its it really that much worse off now?
# [08:36] <njn> dolske: I want to add another button -- now what do I do?
# [08:36] <Jesse> it's probably still busted, just not for a specific screen size and and font size adn en-US
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# [08:36] <njn> exactly
# [08:37] <njn> please feel free to pile on in the bug
# [08:37] <Jesse> margaret: ^
# [08:37] <@dolske> I guess I'm not understanding what the problem is
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# [08:38] <njn> dolske: some Firefox UI looks crap, so someone applied ad hoc styling to make it look good for one device, one font size, and one language
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# [08:38] <njn> that's not the Mozilla way, AIUI
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# [08:39] <njn> dolske: these are totally vanilla <button> elements, if they look weird there's an underlying problem
# [08:39] <@dolske> was it originally a mobile-only problem? or does the fix break non-mobile?
# [08:40] <njn> it doesn't break non-mobile, but it also doesn't properly fix mobile -- see the above comments about font size, screen size, language
# [08:40] * njn suspect he's not gonna convince dolske about this one
# [08:40] <@dbaron> was this a font inflation bug?
# [08:40] <njn> dolske: and as soon as I add that extra button (bug 768470) we'll be back at square one
# [08:40] <@dbaron> is about:memory written in XUL or HTML?
# [08:41] <njn> dbaron: don't know; XHTML
# [08:41] <njn> dbaron: well, it's a stub page, all the content is added via JS
# [08:41] <Jesse> njn: except then it will be your regression and they'll back you out until you fix mobile
# [08:42] <Jesse> can you suppress font inflation from CSS?
# [08:42] <Jesse> i wish they had attached a screenshot of the original brokenness
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# [08:43] <@dbaron> njn, back it out?
# [08:43] <@dolske> njn: not asking to be convinced, just trying to understand why you're concerned vs absolute impact.
# [08:44] <njn> if dbaron says "back it out", that's enough for me
# [08:44] <njn> thanks everyone
# [08:44] <@dbaron> njn, well, I didn't quite mean it that authoritatively
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# [08:44] <njn> dbaron: you're the second one to suggest it
# [08:44] <@dbaron> njn, but if you're the main person working on about:memory, you should probably be reviewing the stuff that happens to it
# [08:45] <njn> yeah
# [08:45] <Jesse> back it out and r- it for good measure
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# [08:45] <@dolske> yeah, certainly would have been good to check with you, but if it's just a almost-but-not-quite fix it doesn't seem like a big deal
# [08:45] <@dolske> (especially if it was busted before!)
# [08:46] <@dolske> it's open source, sometimes people will change you code without your explict approval :)
# [08:46] <@dbaron> ok, let's see if Firefox still starts after " 7 files changed, 227 insertions(+), 402 deletions(-)" changes to the guts of our style change handling
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# [08:47] <@dolske> dbaron: as one who updates his tree approximately biweekly, that sounds tiny to me. ;)
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# [08:52] <njn> backouts don't need a "r=foo" string, is that right?
# [08:52] <@dolske> correct, unless there's asome hook enforcing it.
# [08:52] <njn> my working string is "Backout 52abdd1fbcc8 (bug 780442) due to lack of appropriate review."
# [08:53] * njn will try that
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# [08:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a75329c54a3 - Nicholas Nethercote - Backout 52abdd1fbcc8 (bug 780442) due to lack of appropriate review.
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# [08:57] <@dbaron> dolske, njn, I think the review hook accepts commits with "backout" or "back out" in lieu of review
# [08:57] <njn> dbaron: it certainly appears to :)
# [08:58] <@dolske> r=sparky
# [08:58] <Unfocused> RiP
# [09:00] <njn> dolske: I'm not Waldo :P
# [09:00] <nigelb> chofman's dog?
# [09:00] <nigelb> I thought hg checked for sparky these days :P
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# [09:04] <nigelb> Sparky has powers the javascript lord knows not.
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# [09:04] <@smaug> remind me about windows... { uint32_t foo:31; bool bar:1; }
# [09:04] <@smaug> does Windows compiler handle that in a sane way
# [09:04] <@dolske> (cue Muppets Veterinarian's Hospital... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqURXu_DvcQ)
# [09:04] <@smaug> or should I use uint32_t for the bar too
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# [09:05] <@dbaron> But only Lumpy (a.k.a. Brown Dog) was a super-reviewer.
# [09:05] <njn> smaug: yeah, you might need uint32_t -- not certain, but it sounds familiar
# [09:06] <@dolske> (haha, bonus Waldorf & Statler)
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# [09:14] <philor> the best part of the review hook, and all the things people use to avoid being hit by it, is the fact that it does not exist
# [09:15] <njn> philor: ORLY
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# [09:15] <jviereck> nattokirai: hi, anything to talk about the font-load bug?
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# [09:17] <jviereck> nattokirai: got to run - should be back in an hour or so.
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# [09:30] <cjones> dbaron, that's bug 779968?
# [09:31] <@dbaron> cjones, yes
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# [09:31] <cjones> also, thanks!
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# [09:42] <glob> sanity check: does https://www.dropbox.com/s/auu0ozu29dr1fx4/IMG_9847.jpg crash on nightly for anyone else?
# [09:43] <@dolske> not with 09-05 on osx
# [09:43] <@dolske> crashid?
# [09:43] <glob> dolske, can you try 09-06 on osx? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-6ee75b4a-6857-48b1-b309-cc0fd2120907
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# [09:45] <@dolske> can't at the moment, leak hunting
# [09:46] <@dolske> glob: how about https://photos-3.dropbox.com/thumb/AADofNpLK9T76wy2ZtL505cFl5wXXRsxQgiSNQHMkcHniQ/7274571/jpeg/2048x1536/2/1347008400/0/2/IMG_9847.jpg/mx1UOYqvAJwp5kRW5iVhKJrABiDoOZLlRdGL0inMyTw ?
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# [09:46] <glob> dolske, works
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# [09:47] <@dolske> hmm. so, proabyl not the image itself. which would make sense given the crashreport.
# [09:47] <@dolske> file it?
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# [09:47] <glob> nuts, lost my session the last time
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# [09:49] <@dolske> hmm, I think that stack is bogus anyway. :|
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# [09:52] <glob> s/^an/
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# [09:54] <glob> InvalidateWidgetArea was recently changed
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# [10:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab24958a514d - Eric Chou - Bug 788254 - [b2g-bluetooth] nsTArray should not be passed back as return value, r=qdot
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# [10:08] <glob> downgraded to 09-05, no crash.
# [10:09] <edwin> Land thing Thursday, jruderman breaks it Friday. Sigh.
# [10:10] <@dbaron> NeilAway, compatibility with svg:text behavior
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# [10:11] <@dbaron> edwin, also, I'm guessing Jesse broke it on Thursday too. Hooray for timezones. :-)
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# [10:14] <@dbaron> but isn't on IRC
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# [10:19] <NeilAway> dbaron: ah yes, I see the subsequent checkin now, thanks
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# [13:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0b1ba698e11 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 785951. Remove padding from social panels. r=dao,felipe
# [13:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3c66f475f33 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 782793. Per-platform chat window icons. r=felipe
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# [13:39] <Ms2ger> Ah, blocking2.0:.x+, been a while since I saw one of those
# [13:39] <edmorley> zzzzz: hi
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# [13:40] <zzzzz> I was looking on how to use 'go to build' from tbpl - guess its not on m-c yet as I do see it on 'try'
# [13:41] * zzzzz maybe I mis-understood the bug
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# [13:43] <edmorley> zzzzz: the link on Try already existed, since it was easy to work it out from pushes email+rev, however the bug to add support for other trees hasn't been pushed to production yet
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# [13:43] <edmorley> zzzzz: I've reopened the bug to make it clearer
# [13:43] <zzzzz> Thanks
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# [13:44] <sierk> Hi folks! I have a small question concerning Mozilla's Plugin check webpage http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ Anybody here who is able to answer me a specific question relating the identification of a specific Plugin (Google Earth Plugin)?
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# [13:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c1d23fe3275 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 784220 - B2G telephony: expose call waiting status. r=philikon
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# [14:10] <andersh> What is the policy regarding people.mozilla.org? Is it for MoCo imployees only?
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# [14:14] <andersh> Pike: Okay, thanks.
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# [14:42] <Ms2ger> Bears repeating:
# [14:42] <Ms2ger> <philor> the best part of the review hook, and all the things people use to avoid being hit by it, is the fact that it does not exist
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# [15:27] <ewong> edmorley: ping
# [15:27] <edmorley> ewong: hi :-)
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# [15:28] <ewong> edmorley: hi.. thanks for the comments on bug #683833. re: the code that you suggested to be moved to Data.js, there's the "this.handleUpdatePush" which belongs to the UserInterface.js.. should I move that also?
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# [15:28] <ewong> or is there a better way?
# [15:29] <edmorley> ewong: no, since that's the UI handling a push being updated; whereas the part that we're moving is to make data.js be able to indicate to the UI that everything has changed
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# [15:30] <ewong> edmorley: ok.. then I'll need to think of it a bit more deeply..
# [15:31] <WG9s> edmorley: not realted but could you add a link on the include link to build on tbpl build to the url we could use to test this?
# [15:31] <edmorley> WG9s: sorry I don't understand what you are saying?
# [15:31] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I'm happy to add anything, but I'll be offline from tonight until the 14th or so
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> bz, would you prefer I do DOM4 tests or WebIDL for the moment?
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, okay, so maybe I'll do it.
# [15:32] <edmorley> ewong: in Data.js there is already _notifyUpdatedPushes() we just need to add a _notifyAllPushes() which calls _notifyUpdatedPushes(<all pushes>), ie like the example I gave in comment 4
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# [15:34] <WG9s> edmorley: opps sorry wrong person
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# [15:35] <AryehGregor> edmorley, do you know what the red here is? The parent revision is known green, and it seems very unlikely that this change would cause build failures with empty summaries . . . https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=048b01f1aa91
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# [15:35] <ewong> edmorley: right.. just trying to understand where things stand
# [15:35] <AryehGregor> (the patch being tested is two lines, both of which are trivial)
# [15:35] <WG9s> edmorley:although you did comment on the bug
# [15:35] <edmorley> WG9s: which bug and what did you mean above? (without punctuation I couldn't understand it, sorry)
# [15:35] <WG9s> this is about bug 656155. a link in the bug for others to test dirive would be helpful.
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# [15:36] <WG9s> if i could actually type it would be helpful also :-)
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# [15:36] <AryehGregor> Oh, do I have to push to try with a more recent m-c for Windows building to work or something?
# [15:36] <ewong> edmorley: o_O so something was wrong with my patch for bug #656155?
# [15:37] <AryehGregor> This also has weird Windows failures: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1eae268cf669
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# [15:38] <edmorley> AryehGregor: there were dom/bindings errors at some point due to pymake races, but should now be fixed
# [15:38] <AryehGregor> Okay, thanks.
# [15:38] * AryehGregor will re-push
# [15:38] <edmorley> AryehGregor: I've retriggered the first push, but I'd check before landing perhaps
# [15:38] <WG9s> ewong: if you are asking about what I said, I just thought it would be nice to have included a link in the bug to the dev tbpl so interested parties could do testing.
# [15:38] <AryehGregor> Check what before landing?
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# [15:39] <edmorley> WG9s: the patch works, it just needs a push to production
# [15:39] <AryehGregor> If the red there isn't my fault, I think it's probably safe to push my two-line change to m-i.
# [15:39] <AryehGregor> I just wanted to make sure it was something known.
# [15:39] <edmorley> WG9s: unfortunately tbpl-dev.allizon.org is behind auth
# [15:39] <edmorley> ewong: your patch is fine
# [15:39] <WG9s> Oh ok then nevermind
# [15:40] <edmorley> WG9s: tbpl-dev pulls from the repo on a 15 min cron, so I think IT were worried someone with level1/2 or above could 0-day the server otherwise, since no push to dev bug needs to be filed etc
# [15:40] <ewong> Oooh I understand now.. no.. I have access to the dev tbpl.. sorry
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# [15:42] <edmorley> WG9s: though don't know if other sites are behind auth too - if not, then maybe we can ask IT nicely
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# [15:42] <WG9s> i juist rememberd that initially tbpl was on a dev server before it went live and i accessed it then so when you said the patch ws on the dev server i stupidly assumed it was the same.
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# [15:44] <edmorley> WG9s: I will follow this up with a few people and see if we can improve things, since it's not ideal to exclude people
# [15:44] <edmorley> it may be that the auth is a necessary evil, but we can give the password out to anyone contributing
# [15:44] <edmorley> but I'd like the check the policy first
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# [15:45] <protz> arg I guess I overlooked __exposedProps__...
# [15:45] <ewong> WG9s: sorry.. I mean I don't have access to the dev tbpl..
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# [15:45] <WG9s> not a big deal i was just trying to get early access but if it is landing on prod soonish i can wait.
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# [15:51] <graememcc> Ms2ger++
# [15:51] <graememcc> and graememcc--
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# [15:53] <Ms2ger> graememcc, hmm?
# [15:53] <Ms2ger> graememcc++
# [15:54] <ttaubert> is 0x5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5a some kind of special pointer value?
# [15:54] <@ted> firebot: 0x5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5a
# [15:54] <firebot> ted: 0x5A5A5A5A5A5A5A5A = 6510615555426900570, 0551322645513226455132, 0b101101001011010010110100101101001011010010110100101101001011010
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# [15:55] <@ted> firebot: 0x5a5a5a5a
# [15:55] <firebot> ted: 0x5A5A5A5A = 1515870810, 013226455132, 0b1011010010110100101101001011010
# [15:55] * NeilAway does a check
# [15:55] <NeilAway> firebot: 0xdadadada
# [15:55] <firebot> NeilAway: 0xDADADADA = 3671775962, 033266555332, 0b11011010110110101101101011011010
# [15:55] <NeilAway> firebot: literal 0xdadadada
# [15:55] <firebot> NeilAway: 0xdadadada is 'what 0xbabybaby calls his pop or the MSVC debug-alloc boundary-marker or PL_FREE_PATTERN (deallocated PLArena) or JS_FREE_PATTERN (deallocated JSArena - GC()d)'.
# [15:55] <NeilAway> firebot: literal 0x5a5a5a5a
# [15:55] <firebot> NeilAway: 0x5a5a5a5a is 'jemalloc freed junk memory (cf. 0xa5a5a5a5)'.
# [15:56] <NeilAway> ^^^ ttaubert
# [15:56] <graememcc> Ms2ger: catching my sloppiness!
# [15:56] <ttaubert> uh nice
# [15:56] <ttaubert> NeilAway: so that's use after free?
# [15:56] <ttaubert> if I access it?
# [15:56] <@ted> aha
# [15:56] <NeilAway> ttaubert: looks like it
# [15:56] <NeilAway> firebot: what is 0x5a5a5a5a
# [15:56] <firebot> NeilAway: I seem to recall that 0x5a5a5a5a is jemalloc freed junk memory (cf. 0xa5a5a5a5)
# [15:57] <ttaubert> NeilAway: hmmm. okay so there I have a css parser crash. let's see how I debug that...
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# [15:59] <ttaubert> dao: sure
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# [16:07] <ewong> edmorley wrt the new function in Data.js, it calls _notifyUpdatedPushes, which needs two parameters (pushes, callback), as mentioned in the bug, the pushes = Object.values(this.getPushes());, but what's the callback?
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# [16:15] <Bas> Does anyone know if our build machines are on the Windows 8 SDK yet?
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# [16:23] <edmorley> ewong: ok, we'll need to add bits to controller.js too, but I'll need to sit down and have a proper look over this, since I'm still getting to know much of TBPL myself
# [16:23] <edmorley> I should hopefully get a change tomorrow if that's ok?
# [16:23] <edmorley> s/change/chance/
# [16:24] <ewong> edmorley: thanks. I'm hoping to have some sort of wip patch ready sometime
# [16:24] <ewong> edmorley: sure!
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# [16:27] <ewong> edmorley: whoa.. need to take some time to understand that
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# [16:39] <protz> s/^any/in/
# [16:39] <protz> I'm having a hard time tracking this down, any ideas?
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# [17:00] <@ted> so i wrote a thing: http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/wiki/StackWalking
# [17:01] <@ted> if anyone is curious about the nitty gritty details of how breakpad produces stack traces
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# [17:01] <@ted> sewardj: i'm sure you've read all that code already, but might be useful
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# [17:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f994df8c6c4 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 780529. Make people poking XHR via random XPCOM interfaces actually work as long as they stick to GetInterface. r=peterv
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# [17:03] <sewardj> ted: yeah .. it all seems somewhat familiar now; nice summary tho
# [17:03] <@ted> thanks
# [17:03] <@ted> helps to have that written down so i don't have to keep explaining to people some of the details
# [17:04] <sewardj> ted: fwiw, the arm stackwalker in our tree doesn't do stack scanning
# [17:04] <@ted> ah
# [17:04] <sewardj> I had to patch it in by hand to get anything sane on android
# [17:04] <@ted> i must have added that since the last import
# [17:05] <@ted> (i factored the stack scanning bits out into a generic method a while back)
# [17:05] <sewardj> yeah, i saw its all nice and tidy in the breakpad trunk
# [17:05] <@ted> also i have that ARM exidx dumper patch floating around in my queue
# [17:06] <@ted> did i give you that link?
# [17:06] <@ted> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/tmielczarek_mozilla.com/breakpad-mq/file/95201802c699/arm-unwind
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# [17:06] <@ted> i should look at upstreaming that
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# [17:07] <sewardj> ted: I don't think I have that.
# [17:07] <sewardj> ted: does it help on android?
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# [17:08] <@ted> for system libraries, yes
# [17:08] <sewardj> I had the impression android is basically either CFI or you're-on-your-own
# [17:08] <@ted> it parses the .exidx tables using the code from libunwind
# [17:08] <@ted> nope, the ARM abi specifies these unwind tables
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# [17:08] <sewardj> ted: ah .. it could be that I hid that from myself, in effect, by building my entire image from source and having all the debuginfo objects around
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# [17:09] <@ted> yeah, if you have debug info for everything it's irrelevant
# [17:09] <sewardj> yeah
# [17:09] <@ted> helpful for system libraries that you didn't produce
# [17:09] <sewardj> exidx unwinding might be useful for V too
# [17:09] <@ted> details: https://wiki.linaro.org/KenWerner/Sandbox/libunwind
# [17:10] <sewardj> ted: you're not doing Warsaw this week, are you?
# [17:10] <sewardj> s/this/next
# [17:10] <@ted> it's not super complicated, but the tables are very compact so you have to decode them
# [17:10] <@ted> nope
# [17:10] <sewardj> oh well.
# [17:10] <sewardj> ted: I plan to talk with BenWa re cleanup / integration of my hackery
# [17:10] <@ted> cool
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# [17:33] <@bz> NeilAway: hmm?
# [17:33] <@bz> NeilAway: I had a reason. Did I not document it?
# [17:33] <jrmuizel> bbondy: ping
# [17:33] <bbondy> jrmuizel: hey
# [17:33] <@ted> jrmuizel: http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/wiki/StackWalking
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# [17:34] <jrmuizel> bbondy: so have you seen the bug for the original TimeStamp implementation on Windows?
# [17:34] <bbondy> no can you link to it?
# [17:34] <@bz> NeilAway: the behavior is different for GetInterface(nsISupports)
# [17:34] <@bz> NeilAway: maybe that's too much of and edge case....
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# [17:35] <jrmuizel> bbondy: bug 676349
# [17:35] <NeilAway> bz: oh, right, yes
# [17:35] <@bz> NeilAway: I guess it's not clear which one is best to do for that one anyway
# [17:35] <bbondy> thx
# [17:35] <NeilAway> bz: it's not as if anyone calls it, do they? I hope not ;-)
# [17:36] <jrmuizel> bbondy: the cases in which QPC is broken are not that well documented
# [17:36] <@bz> NeilAway: heh
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# [17:38] <jrmuizel> bbondy: see also http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/base/time_win.cc?revision=149801&view=markup
# [17:38] <bbondy> ya I don't doubt the existance of undocumented problems, but more so I'm wondering if the cases it's broken are equal to the cases where we can't trust TSC
# [17:38] <bbondy> and if the TSC check is completely deterministic or not
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# [17:40] <jrmuizel> bbondy: the cpuid check that we're doing only catches a subset of the cases where QPC is correct
# [17:40] <jrmuizel> what do you mean by whether the TSC check is completely determinstic?
# [17:41] <jrmuizel> bbondy: here's one of the heuristics that chrome uses https://github.com/chromium/chromium/blob/trunk/base/time_win.cc#L370
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# [17:42] <bbondy> so patch 1 has a function HasStableTSC(), I wanted to know if when that returns true does it guarantee that QPC is correct? Does it return false when QPC should be trusted? Also maybe it's almost always going to return false and these changes are maybe being done for no benefit
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# [17:44] <jrmuizel> bbondy: if it returns true it guarantees that QPC is correct
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# [17:45] <jrmuizel> bbondy: if it returns false we don't know whether QPC can be trusted or not
# [17:45] <jrmuizel> bbondy: it will return true on any modern Intel hardware
# [17:46] <mkaply> Was there a deliberate change for FF15 so that clicking in fields with emptytext doesn't make the emptytext go away until you type?
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# [17:49] <bbondy> jrmuizel: it returns false for me on my modern laptop with a small test program I just made.
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# [17:49] <jrmuizel> bbondy: really?
# [17:50] <jrmuizel> what cpu is it?
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# [17:50] <bbondy> yes :( in particular this last line is what returns false return regs[4] & (1 << 8);
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# [17:52] <bbondy> Intel i7 2.2Ghz
# [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e021b699ca3d - Etienne Segonzac - Bug 788751 - Bubble the manifestURL in the webapps-launch mozChromeEvent. r=vingtetun
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# [17:52] <philor> 10.8-specific would please me greatly, but it probably won't be
# [17:53] <bbondy> k
# [17:53] <bbondy> debugger is attached in the program I'm testing with if that makes a diff
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# [17:55] <jrmuizel> bbondy: if you run x86info from http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/x86info.htm
# [17:55] <jrmuizel> with the -r flag what do you get?
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# [17:58] <rail> glandium: hey, did you have a chance to look at new binaries from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772563#c23 ? No pressure :)
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# [18:00] <bbondy> jrmuizel: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1809155
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# [18:00] <jrmuizel> bbondy: so it looks like the code should work on your cpu
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# [18:00] <jrmuizel> eax in: 0x80000007, eax = 00000000 ebx = 00000000 ecx = 00000000 edx = 00000100
# [18:00] <bbondy> heh :)
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# [18:00] <jrmuizel> bbondy: so why it doesn't is a good question
# [18:01] <@bz> philor: looking
# [18:01] <jrmuizel> bbondy: maybe we're using __cpuid incorrectly?
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# [18:02] <@bz> philor: that's a real orange. Fixing.
# [18:02] <bbondy> shouldn't it be return regs[4] & (1 << 7); ?
# [18:02] <bbondy> jrmuizel^
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# [18:03] <jrmuizel> bbondy: I don't think so
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# [18:03] <jrmuizel> it's the 9th bit that is set
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# [18:04] <bbondy> ah ok, so bit 8 is the 9th bit?
# [18:04] <bbondy> and bit 0 is the first bit
# [18:04] * @bz though he'd run this on try....
# [18:04] <jrmuizel> bbondy: yes
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# [18:05] <bbondy> actually this is wrong... regs[4] the array is only of size 4 yet you're indexing past it
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# [18:21] <@bz> philor: fix pushed
# [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de4e95e2ccc3 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 788369 followup. Fix test to reflect the new world. r=bustage
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# [18:25] <@bz> gah
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# [18:30] <NeilAway> mkaply: hmm, I think I saw that too, but I don't get a lot of placeholders
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# [18:36] <@bz> wish tbpl would let me pre-star stuff...
# [18:36] <ddahl> bz: sounds like a feature request for try server push config:)
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# [18:38] <@bz> hmm?
# [18:38] <ddahl> ehsan: I stole a bit of a file writing routine from an updater browser chrome test (you may have written), but I must be expecting things from the code it does not do: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1809245
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# [18:39] <ddahl> bz: if you could add some known bug failures to try choose syntax - where tbpl would get stars automagickally
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# [18:40] <@bz> ddahl: ah, so
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# [18:40] <@bz> ddahl: this is more like "I pushed something broken to inbound, but it won't let me pre-star everything until the backout"
# [18:40] <ddahl> bz: OH
# [18:41] <ddahl> that is not what I thought
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# [18:41] <@bz> Like I can't star a build until it goes orange
# [18:42] <ddahl> i see
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# [18:49] <@dbaron> bz, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786946#c13 should fix it, I think
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# [18:53] <kk1fff> jlebar: ping
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# [18:57] <@bsmedberg> bz: can you just cancel the builds you know will fail?
# [18:57] <@bsmedberg> or do you want the results?
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# [19:01] <@bz> bsmedberg: can't cancel non-try builds
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# [19:04] <@dbaron> was the reason we disabled the ability to cancel non-try builds related to builds only (as opposed to tests), or did it affect tests too?
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# [19:06] <mconnor> bz: you can, it's just not easy
# [19:06] <mconnor> we had this discussion yesterday
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# [19:07] <mconnor> dbaron: the reason was that buildbot leaves garbage, so you need to force a clobber. ehsan and catlee and I discussed this yesterday as a thing we can and should fix
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# [19:07] <@dbaron> but is the garbage related to "interrupting a build"?
# [19:07] <mconnor> yes
# [19:07] <@dbaron> given that we can cancel tests on try just fine
# [19:07] <mconnor> buildbot does kill -9 on all processes
# [19:08] <@bz> yeah, wish I could just cancel the tests
# [19:08] <@dbaron> seems like the tbpl-level thing that prevents cancelling should apply to builds rather than builds+tests
# [19:08] <mconnor> this is true
# [19:08] <mconnor> but we can also just fix the tbpl call to also force a clobber
# [19:08] <mconnor> this is one of the things we're going to get fixed
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# [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c83c4ea731a - John Ford - bug 776783 - package profile into B2G desktop builds r=ted
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# [19:14] <jlebar> kk1fff, hey
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# [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/00a552f644a2 - Hao Gao - Bug 787116 - Use self.stream to write Marionette log lines, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
# [19:16] <kk1fff> jlebar: Hi. For bug 787517, I think the exception occurs because a BrowserElementParent attempt to send message through frameloader, after the iframe is removed.
# [19:17] <jlebar> kk1fff, yes.
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# [19:18] <kk1fff> jlebar: When the frameloader is null, can we assume the iframe is removed?
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# [19:20] <jlebar> kk1fff, or possibly not added to the document, yet.
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# [19:20] <jlebar> kk1fff, There's probably a more direct way to test for iframe not in document, though...let me see.
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# [19:23] <jlebar> kk1fff, Can I see the exception that's being thrown?
# [19:23] <jlebar> kk1fff, Oh, it's in sendAsyncMsg, right?
# [19:24] <kk1fff> jlebar: it is in BrowserElementParent._sendAsyncMsg
# [19:25] <kk1fff> jlebar: the exception says frameLoader is null
# [19:25] <firebot> Check-in:
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a080c1f6350d - L. David Baron - Make nsStyleContext::CalcStyleDifference force comparison based on the parent's hint instead of the style struct ForceCompare methods. (Bug 779968, patch 6, the main
# [19:25] <firebot> patch) r=bzbarsky
# [19:25] <jlebar> kk1fff, Yeah, and so we have no message manager, so we have nobody to send a message to.
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c86123a966b1 - L. David Baron - Remove maxHint from nsStyleContext::CalcStyleDifference. (Bug 779968, patch 3) r=bzbarsky
# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/497062dbbdf4 - L. David Baron - Move nsStyleStruct MaxDifference methods inline, and make them available unconditionally rather than DEBUG-only. (Bug 779968, patch 1) r=bzbarsky
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# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d8810ba0412 - L. David Baron - Abstract nsChangeHint_NonInherited_Hints into a function so that it accurately reports the reflow cases to all callers. (Bug 779968, patch 4) r=bzbarsky
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# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/309d87857ce0 - L. David Baron - Refix bug 731521 in the new setup for forcing comparison in nsStyleContext::CalcDifference, since we can no longer rely on nsStyleBorder::ForceCompare. (Bug 779968,
# [19:26] <jlebar> kk1fff, It seems to me that you might be able to get away with adding another condition to BEP._isAlive.
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# [19:26] <firebot> patch 5) r=bzbarsky
# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f6bb5447c4d - L. David Baron - Use nsStyleStruct MaxDifference methods instead of maxHint for hint handling in nsStyleContext::CalcStyleDifference. (Bug 779968, patch 2) r=bzbarsky
# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6396a6c27e3 - L. David Baron - Remove ForceCompare methods from style structs. (Bug 779968, patch 7) r=bzbarsky
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# [19:27] <edmorley> dbaron: the "don't let people cancel" thing does only apply to builds
# [19:27] <@dbaron> bz, ^
# [19:28] <edmorley> unless they are pending tests & !Try
# [19:28] <@dbaron> it might have been pending that bz wanted to cancel
# [19:28] <edmorley> in which case cancelling may cancel the wrong revision, due to coalescing, so we don't want them to do it
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# [19:29] <@ehsan> dbaron: mconnor: the difference in the try case is that try builds are *always* clobber, so they are not affected by what happened on the machine before
# [19:29] <jlebar> kk1fff, I wonder what would happen if you used this._frameLoader instead of getting the frameloader from the frameelement.
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# [19:30] <jlebar> kk1fff, Or even if you used this._mm instead of getting the message manager from the frameloader...
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# [19:30] <kk1fff> jlebar: It throws an exception like NS_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED.
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# [19:31] <@bz> I would have been happy to cancel non-pending tests
# [19:31] <@bz> could I do it en masse?
# [19:32] <jlebar> kk1fff, Okay, that's an improvement. That's saying that the child does not exist, I think.
# [19:32] <jlebar> kk1fff, So what I might do is, switch to this._mm instead of getting from the frame element.
# [19:32] <jlebar> kk1fff, And then everywhere that we call _sendAsyncMsg, put it in try/catch and take appropriate action if it throws.
# [19:33] <jlebar> kk1fff, appropriate action might just be to ignore the exception, except in the case of DOM requests.
# [19:33] <jlebar> kk1fff, (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787519)
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# [19:34] <jlebar> kk1fff, Or, if you find yourself ignoring the exception in most places, you could have a function which ignores the exception and one which doesn't. That might be cleaner.
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# [19:36] <kk1fff> jlebar: okey. can I just try/catch in _sendAsyncMsg and ignore NS_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED?
# [19:36] <edmorley> bz: bug 673247, but it is blocked on self-serve changes
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# [19:36] <jlebar> kk1fff, I think that's correct for most but not all of the places which call sendAsyncMsg.
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# [19:37] <jlebar> kk1fff, It's wrong specifically in the DOMRequest case, where we want to throw an exception.
# [19:37] <jlebar> kk1fff, Or rather, we want to fire the DOMRequest's onfailure method.
# [19:38] <jlebar> kk1fff, But if you want to fix it by wrapping the whole thing in try/catch and then fixing bug 787519 separately, that works for me. :)
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# [19:40] <kk1fff> jlebar: are these two bug related?
# [19:40] <jlebar> kk1fff, I didn't realize until you started asking, but I think so, yes.
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# [19:41] <jlebar> kk1fff, What I think happens is, we hit your exception in the DOMRequest bug. But then DOMRequests have this expectation that you'll notify them on failure, and we don't notify.
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# [19:48] <kk1fff> jlebar: I don't really understand the description of bug 787519…. Does in mean that the DOMRequest returned by getScreenShot() doesn't call onerror when the operation fail?
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# [19:50] <jlebar> kk1fff, Yes.
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# [19:50] <jlebar> kk1fff, And in particular, the operation fails when the child process has crashed.
# [19:50] <@bz> hrm
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# [19:50] <@bz> so on 10.6, swiping up/down with three fingers goes to top/bottom of page in Firefox
# [19:50] <@bz> on 10.8 this doesn't seem to happen
# [19:50] <@bz> anyone know why?
# [19:50] <jlebar> bz, You are pretty late to this party.
# [19:51] <jlebar> bz, the OS took that shortcut away from us.
# [19:51] <@bz> um
# [19:51] <jlebar> in 10.7
# [19:51] <@bz> well, yes, but I never used 10.7
# [19:51] <@bz> ok
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# [19:51] <@bz> can I make it give it back?
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# [19:51] <jlebar> bz, http://www.macworld.com/article/1161886/restore_snow_leopards_three_finger_swipes_in_lion.html ? Not great.
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# [19:52] <jlebar> bz, aha. Second answer at http://superuser.com/questions/313158/3-finger-swipe-page-up-and-page-down-not-working-on-mac-osx-lion
# [19:53] <@bz> Option+swipe no workee
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# [19:53] <@bz> jlebar: thanks!
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# [20:02] <bholley> philor: yt?
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# [20:03] <edmorley> bholley: hi :-)
# [20:04] <bholley> edmorley: ahoy there :-)
# [20:04] <bholley> edmorley: do you know if try pushes will work with m-b?
# [20:05] <edmorley> bholley: for windows you will need the patch to stub out pymake - and there is likely a lot else broken
# [20:05] <bholley> edmorley: hrpmh
# [20:05] <edmorley> android needs a branding change iirc
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# [20:05] <bholley> edmorley: sounds like more trouble than it's worth
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# [20:05] <edmorley> we should put this on a wiki page somewhere
# [20:06] <edmorley> bholley: You might as well just land
# [20:06] <edmorley> :-)
# [20:06] <edmorley> traffic is lower on beta at least
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# [20:07] <bholley> edmorley: well, the thing is that this patch bounced from beta pre-branch (and pre-bholley-pto) for a couple of reasons, including a windows-only m-4 assertion. I've modified the patch someone for other reasons (including the IID change), but nothing that would be likely to cause that. So now I've got this built on a VM, but I can't reproduce the failure
# [20:09] <bholley> edmorley: well, I guess I'll just land and see what happens. Traffic's low enough I guess
# [20:09] <edmorley> bholley: the patch to unbust the pymake changes is https://gist.github.com/3582912
# [20:09] <kk1fff> jlebar: I will take a look at bug 787519. I still not understand it well, but I think I can figure out.
# [20:09] <edmorley> bholley: for the future or whatever
# [20:10] <edmorley> :-)
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# [20:10] <jlebar> kk1fff, Okay; let me know if I can help.
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# [20:11] <kk1fff> jlebar: Ok. Thank you.
# [20:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/175c768112a4 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 786946. Don't propagate text-decoration to <select> by default. r=dbaron
# [20:11] <bz_other> man
# [20:11] <bz_other> I really need to get this swipe thing fixed
# [20:13] <@dbaron> "swipe thing"?
# [20:13] <@dbaron> oh, what you were talking about above
# [20:13] <bholley> oh, apparently it wasn't windows-only. It was everywhere. And I can't reproduce anywhere!
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# [20:14] <bz_other> dbaron: yeah
# [20:14] <bz_other> dbaron: bugzilla is a huge pain without. :(
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# [20:14] <@dbaron> bz_other, no home and end keys on mac without modifiers?
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# [20:15] <bz_other> Right
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# [20:15] <dholbert> Are nsString::get() / nsCString::get() guaranteed to return non-null?
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# [20:15] <bz_other> dholbert: "no"
# [20:16] <bz_other> dholbert: though usually they do
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# [20:16] <bz_other> dholbert: why?
# [20:16] <bz_other> dbaron: and more to the point I'd have to move hands from trackpad to keyboard and back...
# [20:16] <dholbert> bz, ( looking for places that need null-checks in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789382 )
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# [20:16] <bz_other> dholbert: it depends on where the string data came from
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# [20:29] <bz_other> hrm
# [20:29] <bz_other> every time I start gdb it asks for my password
# [20:30] * bz_other wonders how to turn it off
# [20:30] <bz_other> hmm
# [20:31] <bz_other> and back/forward is 2-finger swipe now, not three?
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# [20:32] <biesi> bz, dholbert: they are guaranteed to return non-null unless the explicit type you're dealing with is nsXPIDLString
# [20:32] <biesi> i.e.:
# [20:32] <bz_other> biesi: is that true?
# [20:32] <biesi> const nsCString& foo - never null
# [20:32] <bz_other> biesi: even if SetIsVoid() ?
# [20:32] <biesi> yes
# [20:33] <biesi> only nsXPIDLString returns null for void
# [20:33] <bz_other> I see
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# [20:33] <bz_other> ok, then!
# [20:33] <biesi> the reason being that this guarantee is useful, of course
# [20:34] <biesi> feel free to compare the get() implementation of nsTXPIDLString_CharT vs nsTString_CharT in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsTString.h
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# [20:38] <rillian> do we have a call to validate utf-8?
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# [20:38] <bz_other> IsUTF8() ?
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# [20:39] <biesi> what bz said, though in a lot of cases you just want your text to go through the *-to-unicode converters
# [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db48c62b2ccc - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Kill partially transparent wrappers. r=mrbkap
# [20:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d74382e1dad - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Remove enablePrivilege from bug 585922 tests. r=mrbkap
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# [20:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ad140c544b9 - Bobby Holley - Bug 788914 - Kill the XOW flag. r=mrbkap
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# [20:47] <dholbert> biesi, ok, cool -- in this case, I've got a concrete nsString
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# [20:47] <dholbert> biesi, thanks
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# [20:50] <rillian> bz_other: thanks
# [20:50] <catlee> where is ehsan
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# [20:51] <bz_other> rillian: ?
# [20:51] <bz_other> ok
# [20:51] <bz_other> so this is confusing
# [20:51] <bz_other> two-finger drag is scrol
# [20:51] <bz_other> er, scrol
# [20:51] <bz_other> er, scroll
# [20:51] <bz_other> unless it's back/forward?
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# [20:51] <vlad> ctalbert: ping
# [20:51] <ctalbert> vlad pong
# [20:51] <bz_other> and three-finger got stolen by mission control?
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# [20:52] <vlad> ctalbert: heya, sutagent questions.. are you a good person to ask, or someone else? :)
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# [20:52] <rillian> bz_other: thanks for the IsUTF8 pointer pointer :)
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# [20:52] <vlad> ctalbert: so far the main one is 'does it really need root, and can we get away without it with disabling some stuff'
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# [20:52] <bz_other> rillian: oh, ok
# [20:52] <ctalbert> me, wlach, and/or jmaher are all good people to ask
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# [20:52] <vlad> I'd like to use it instead of adb, but I would really like to be able to work on non-rooted devices
# [20:52] <bz_other> aha
# [20:52] <ctalbert> vlad: needs root to be able to kill processes and reboot the device
# [20:52] <KWierso|Home> bz: this is what's known as "just working"
# [20:52] <bz_other> here we go
# [20:52] <vlad> mmm
# [20:52] <vlad> so killing processes can be done with 'am'
# [20:53] <vlad> 'am force-stop' and 'am kill', if they're packages
# [20:53] <ctalbert> otherwise it doesn't need root
# [20:53] <vlad> ok, so it'll only request root for those things?
# [20:53] <vlad> I can avoid using its built-in kill stuff and send the commands manually
# [20:53] <ctalbert> you can then do that with the agent by issuing an exec command exec 'am kill' for instance
# [20:53] <vlad> yeah
# [20:53] <vlad> where does the source live?
# [20:53] <vlad> in case I need to fiddle with it
# [20:53] <ctalbert> build/mobile/android/sutagent
# [20:53] <vlad> ok; and we don't have a prebuilt version anywhere, right?
# [20:54] <ctalbert> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/mobile/sutagent/android/
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# [20:54] <ctalbert> vlad: it is built inside the test.zip bundle for fennec
# [20:54] <jmaher> vlad: part of the reason for requiring root is we have developed and tested on a small number of platforms
# [20:54] <ctalbert> each time you do make package-tests
# [20:54] <rillian> biesi: usually yes, and I hope things like NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16 also do validation, but in this case I just wanted to verify what I'm parsing without remembering it.
# [20:54] <jmaher> vlad: also here is a location where all the sutagents live: http://people.mozilla.org/~jmaher/sutagent/
# [20:54] <ctalbert> ah yes, and there
# [20:54] <ctalbert> :)
# [20:55] <vlad> ah perfect
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# [20:55] <vlad> hm, one more question
# [20:55] <vlad> do the devices need to have a static IP?
# [20:55] <vlad> or can it do some kind of name-based discovery?
# [20:56] <jmaher> vlad: static IP really helps for automation :)
# [20:56] <jmaher> vlad: all our devices are on dhcp
# [20:56] <jmaher> I connect to them via tegra-314 or something like that
# [20:56] <vlad> but they get served static IPs, right?
# [20:56] <vlad> hmm. I wonder if I can hack in zeroconf support
# [20:56] <jmaher> I think they do in the build network; at home I get different ip addresses sometimes
# [20:57] <jmaher> zeroconf?
# [20:57] <vlad> like apple's bonjour stuff
# [20:57] <vlad> local network device discovery by name, basically
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# [20:58] <jmaher> does that require the device registering with a service on startup?
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# [20:58] <biesi> richardus, I don't recall what those do for invalid utf-8 strings. but those functions should only be used for trusted things in general
# [20:58] <ctalbert> huh haven't tried it with that. The devicemanager code (what runs on your local box - devicemanager.py) uses the "ip" flag to open a socket, so if the name resolves to an IP for the socket conneciton you're probably going to be fine. But we haven't tried that.
# [20:58] <jmaher> devicemanager should work with a name, but it hasn't been tested; might be a quick fix to do that
# [20:58] <vlad> not with a service, it works via broadcasts on the network
# [20:59] <ctalbert> it might work then. You'd have to try and find out.
# [20:59] <vlad> so the device just ends up listening to zeroconf request broadcasts and can send back "hey, my name is X and I'm at IP Y"
# [20:59] <vlad> well, it needs code work to support it
# [20:59] <vlad> not free :)
# [20:59] <ctalbert> ah so it woudln't resolve at the socket layer.
# [20:59] <vlad> yeah
# [20:59] <vlad> but there's a android java zeroconf lib that should be easy to add to sutagent
# [20:59] <ctalbert> then no, it won't work out of the box. Would be nice to have though. It would be a helluva lot easier to work with devices at work weeks if we had that.
# [21:00] <vlad> and on the client side, there's peltny of command-line tools to query zeroconf for linux/windows/etc.
# [21:00] <vlad> so we don't really need to add direct support for it on that side
# [21:00] <vlad> I'll give it a shot!
# [21:00] <jmaher> vlad: /me would be happy to review patches for sutagent and devicemanager as needed to support that
# [21:00] <ctalbert> then we could probably just call those tools from the devicemanager.py script
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# [21:00] <vlad> yep
# [21:00] <ctalbert> sounds cool
# [21:01] <NeilAway> bz_other, bz, dholbert: I thought ns(C)String::get was guaranteed to return non-null, you need nsXPIDL(C)String and/or nsAdopting(C)String for a null behaviour
# [21:01] <dholbert> NeilAway, that's what biesi says, too.
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# [21:02] <biesi> NeilAway, read further ;)
# [21:02] <NeilAway> dholbert: oh, I see biesi beat me to it
# [21:02] <biesi> although I didn't know about adoptingstring
# [21:02] <biesi> as in, I ddin't know it has the same behaviour
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# [21:02] <NeilAway> biesi: I think it derives from XPIDL string
# [21:02] <dholbert> (In any case, I'm working with nsString in this particular case, so I'm good)
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# [21:07] <vlad> ctalbert: cool, looking at this it looks pretty trivial
# [21:07] <vlad> the integration
# [21:07] <ctalbert> vlad great
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# [21:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1566e8499cb8 - Fernando Rodríguez Sela - Bug 744700 - B2G 3G: Notify connection errors in the WebMobileConnection API, r=bent
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# [22:14] <bz_other> hixie: looking
# [22:14] <jlebar> Do we have a buffered output stream class? It looks like nsFileOutputStream is completely unbuffered (?)
# [22:14] <bz_other> hixie: I have no idea
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# [22:14] <Hixie> bz_other: heh
# [22:14] <bz_other> hixie: what happens now in UAs depends on how soon the corruption is discovered....
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# [22:15] <Hixie> bz_other: yeah...
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# [22:16] <bz_other> Hixie: I don't know how to spec something sane that doesn't prevent lazy decoding
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# [22:16] <bz_other> since apparently I need it to set my default mail app (!)
# [22:16] <Hixie> bz_other: yeah... i guess i'll just make some corruption not fire onerror then
# [22:17] <bz_other> Hixie: yeah, that would make sense
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# [22:17] <Hixie> bz_other: not like anyone is actually checking for onerror for corruption anyway, it's only for 404 or net issues probably
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# [22:17] <bz_other> Hixie: agreed
# [22:18] <Hixie> right. thanks for the sanity check!
# [22:18] <bz_other> hixie: one option is to spec it so that as long as you get the metadata
# [22:18] <bz_other> hixie: width/height stuff
# [22:18] <bz_other> hixie: nothing else fires onerror
# [22:18] <Hixie> yeah, that makse sense
# [22:18] <bz_other> hixie: which for UAs would mean firing onload in some cases where they do know the image is corrupt, but I think that's ok
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# [22:19] <biesi> jlebar, you can wrap an nsBufferedStream around it
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# [22:19] <biesi> jlebar, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/public/nsIBufferedStreams.idl
# [22:19] <jlebar> biesi, Yay. Thanks.
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# [22:20] <Hixie> bz_other: i'll add a comment on the bug
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# [22:31] <davidb> catlee: haha! http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html
# [22:32] <davidb> i'm just gonna push random stuff now
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# [22:34] <NeilAway> jlebar: mailnews wraps most of their streams in buffered streams
# [22:34] <jlebar> NeilAway, Well, it's about 5x faster on my Otoro phone, so that's perhaps not a bad idea.
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# [22:35] <hub> nice the highscores
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# [22:35] <NeilAway> jlebar: they used to use nsFileSpec which was automatically buffered, and got stung by the perf hit when they switched over
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# [22:36] <bz_other> what that chart tells me is:
# [22:36] <bz_other> 1) Push sparingly
# [22:36] <bz_other> 2) -b d is a win
# [22:36] <bz_other> 3) Only running tests on one platform is a win
# [22:37] <@ehsan> catlee: ping
# [22:37] <catlee> ehsan: pong
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# [22:37] <@ehsan> catlee: can you please give me the URL to the update snippet from 15.0 to 15.0.1?
# [22:37] <@ehsan> (on mac)
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# [22:39] <catlee> ehsan: https://aus3.mozilla.org/update/1/Firefox/15.0/20120824154833/Darwin_x86_64-gcc3-u-i386-x86_64/en-US/release/update.xml I believe
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# [22:39] <jlebar> biesi, Do you know if we have a gzip or otherwise compressed output stream?
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# [22:39] <biesi> jlebar, hmm I _think_ we do
# [22:39] <jlebar> Ah, maybe I can use nsIZipWriter.
# [22:40] <biesi> oh, that works
# [22:40] <jlebar> That's kind of overkill, but better than nothing.
# [22:40] <biesi> jlebar, so out of curiosity, what are you doing?
# [22:40] <@ehsan> catlee: thanks
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# [22:40] <jlebar> biesi, I'm dumping about:memory to a file.
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# [22:40] <jlebar> biesi, The uncompressed contents are ~1mb
# [22:40] <catlee> ehsan: http://people.mozilla.org/~nthomas/update-watch/release/ if you need more
# [22:40] <biesi> ah I see
# [22:40] <jlebar> biesi, gzip'ed, it's 80kb or something silly.
# [22:41] <@ehsan> catlee: nah that's good
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# [22:41] <NeilAway> kdiff3 fail
# [22:42] <jhammel> (as always)
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# [22:43] <biesi> jlebar, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libjar/zipwriter/src/ZipWriterModule.cpp#24
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# [22:43] <biesi> implemented in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libjar/zipwriter/src/nsDeflateConverter.cpp#23
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# [22:44] <biesi> jlebar, from a brief look, that seems to be what you wnat
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# [22:45] <jlebar> biesi, Aha, indeed.
# [22:45] <jlebar> biesi, Thanks!
# [22:45] <biesi> though I'm confused because I can't find any user of that code
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# [22:45] <bz_other> no flash on this machine
# [22:45] <bz_other> weird
# [22:46] <biesi> jlebar, good luck!
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# [22:58] <RyanVM> philikon: ping
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# [23:01] <RyanVM> philikon: backing you out for orange
# [23:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5289c1f03c0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 1566e8499cb8 and fcc61274ec43 (bug 744700) due to mochitest orange.
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# [23:05] <philikon> RyanVM: hi, sorry, was out
# [23:05] <philikon> thanks
# [23:05] <philikon> RyanVM: sorry about that
# [23:06] <bz_other> oh, hey
# [23:06] <bz_other> this fixes my isue!
# [23:06] <RyanVM> philikon: given the failure, probably an easy fix
# [23:06] <bz_other> with top/bottom
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# [23:06] <philikon> RyanVM: yeah... sigh, is hould've insisted on a try run before landing
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# [23:06] <RyanVM> philikon: I've gotten to be that way on pretty much any bug with a checkin-needed on it
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# [23:07] <edmorley> RyanVM: apart from the ones last night... ;-)
# [23:08] <RyanVM> edmorley: hush you
# [23:08] <edmorley> tehehe
# [23:08] <RyanVM> edmorley: and look what happened :P
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# [23:08] <RyanVM> edmorley: I also naively assumed that the presence of tests in a patch meant that they had, you know, run them through their paces
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# [23:10] <philikon> RyanVM: aye
# [23:10] <edmorley> RyanVM: :-)
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# [23:11] <RyanVM> edmorley: bonus points to you if you can figure out why we get a seemingly reproducible jsreftest linux64 debug failure on a push and then it disappears on all future pushes
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# [23:11] <edmorley> RyanVM: bad build?
# [23:11] <RyanVM> edmorley: always possible, I guess
# [23:11] <RyanVM> i'm probably going to star it as gremlins, fwiw
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# [23:20] <bjacob> ted: ping
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# [23:21] <bjacob> ted: i was using TOOL_DIRS to add a directory of compiled unit tests to ensure that they would not be linked before libxpcom is linked. That doesnt seem to work anymore, they dont get built at all now. Should I revert to TEST_DIRS? Will that now ensure that they dont get linked before libxpcom?
# [23:21] <bjacob> khuey|away: ^
# [23:21] <RyanVM> edmorley: just for kicks, I've triggered a new linux64 debug build for the push with the failing jsreftest
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# [23:34] <RyanVM> edmorley: I guess it's real
# [23:34] <RyanVM> bholley: I'm suspecting you
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# [23:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a111a94df092 - Siddharth Agarwal - Bug 788971 - Pymake chokes when native commands raise exceptions without a "code" attribute. r=ted
# [23:35] <RyanVM> bholley: intermittent "Assertion failure: rv, at ../../../js/xpconnect/src/xpcprivate.h:441"
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# [23:37] <RyanVM> bholley: looks like it was added by https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4d0839c44af
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# [23:38] <RyanVM> bholley: since you're not around, I'll be backing out your push
# [23:40] <jduell> ehsan: ping
# [23:40] <@ehsan> jduell: hello
# [23:40] <bholley> RyanVM: hi
# [23:40] <RyanVM> bholley: hi ^ :)
# [23:41] <bholley> RyanVM: you back out already?
# [23:41] <jduell> ehsan: howdy. So do we have any idea if there are other things (imagelib loads, etc) that will need same treatment as favicions>
# [23:41] <jduell> ?
# [23:41] <RyanVM> bholley: workign on it, not pushed yet
# [23:41] <bholley> RyanVM: gimme 1 sec
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# [23:41] <@ehsan> jduell: most likely
# [23:41] <@ehsan> jduell: I've caught two other bugs so far
# [23:41] <@ehsan> jduell: and I'm sure I'll catch more :)
# [23:42] <jduell> ehsan: So I'm going to need to tweak all these stuff to work with {appID, isInBrowser} too--I guess we should just land your stuff and I can fix it for B2G later?
# [23:42] <jduell> We'll have more IDL churn that way
# [23:42] <jduell> but also less of a PB bustage window
# [23:43] <@ehsan> jduell: agreed
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# [23:43] <@ehsan> jduell: fwiw, you need to follow my steps to make all of these stupid changes... :(
# [23:43] <@ehsan> for better or worse
# [23:43] <bholley> RyanVM: we can just remove that assert
# [23:44] <jduell> ehsan: thanks for blazing the happy trail :)
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# [23:44] <RyanVM> bholley: feel free
# [23:44] <jduell> ehsan: ok, going back to reviewing the patch...
# [23:44] <@ehsan> jduell: cool, let me know if you have questions
# [23:44] <RyanVM> bholley: If you're sure that'll fix it without causing issues, please do
# [23:45] <bholley> RyanVM: the issue is just that this assert is intermittently firing?
# [23:45] <RyanVM> bholley: apparently. It's during linux/linux64 jsreftests orange intermittently
# [23:45] <RyanVM> s/during/turning
# [23:47] <bholley> RyanVM: UniversalXPConnect stuff is gone for the web now (we've just got this vestigial stuff to keep our tests green). So the standard of correctness here is lower ;-)
# [23:47] * bholley removes the assertion
# [23:47] <RyanVM> bholley: obviously you know that code better than me. I'm mainly just worried about "fixing" one issue and creating another, leading to extra churn on inbound in the mean time.
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# [23:49] <bholley> RyanVM: it's possible that the failure there, whatever it is, could manifest itself in other ways. But I'd say with 90% certainty that removing the assertion will fix it
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# [23:49] <RyanVM> bholley: the other option is changing it to a warning
# [23:49] <bholley> RyanVM: if we were to back out, I'd just end up removing the assertion and relanding, because I don't have any other way to diagnose what's going on
# [23:49] <RyanVM> bholley: that's....encouraging :P
# [23:50] <bholley> RyanVM: (I'm referring to the intermittentness, here)
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# [23:54] <RyanVM> bholley: presumably you had a reason for putting it there in the first place
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# [23:55] <bholley> RyanVM: Ideally the call wouldn't fail, but it might due to OOM and stuff. It would be nice to figure out exactly what's happening, but this is test-only code to support legacy mochitests, so it's not really worth the effort
# [23:56] <RyanVM> bholley: OK, that makes me feel better. Pushing soon?
# [23:56] <bholley> RyanVM: yes. If I convert it to a warning, I'll be adding a line of code. Would you prefer that I did a build to make extra sure it compiles? Or just push? Or skip the warning?
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# [23:57] <RyanVM> go ahead and push
# [23:57] <bholley> RyanVM: ok, thanks
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