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# Session Start: Mon Sep 10 00:00:00 2012
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# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d329814112b4 - Chris Pearce - Bug 779286 - Allow document.documentElement to still be scrollable when made fullscreen. r=roc
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# [00:29] <@smaug> interesting how much better ux bing maps have comparing to gmaps
# [00:29] <KWierso|Home> smaug: I just wish the public transit options in bing maps worked for shorter distances
# [00:30] <KWierso|Home> it's all "you should walk your fat self all the way across town"
# [00:31] <@smaug> hm, never used public transit in either one, since in Helsinki we have a different site for that stuff
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# [00:33] <@roc> does geolocation work in Google Maps for anyone? For me, I see the geolocation UI dot temporarily, but then it disappears
# [00:33] <@roc> while GMaps is loading
# [00:34] <@smaug> seems to work here
# [00:34] <@smaug> (not accurate at all in this place)
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# [00:42] <@dolske> wfm too
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# [01:12] <@roc> doesn't WFM in my main profile, but does in a test profile.
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# [01:12] <@roc> clearing cookies and resetting geolocation permissions in my main profile doesn't help.
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# [01:16] <@dolske> does https://people.mozilla.com/~dolske/tmp/geoloc-new.html do anything?
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# [01:24] <@roc> yeah, it works
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# [01:24] <KWierso|Home> roc: site-specific permissions for maps.google.com?
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# [01:25] <@roc> that was the first thing I checked
# [01:26] <@roc> Bas, edwin: I think something in Edwin's refactoring of SVG text rendering has broken Azure content rendering of SVG text with patterns
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# [01:42] <RyanVM> roc: were you going to blog about that at some ponit?
# [01:42] <@roc> about what
# [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70a0eda09c3c - Daniel Holbert - Bug 789382: Change nsIScriptError methods init() and initWithWindowID() to take nsAString, rather than wchar / PRUnichar*. r=bz sr=bsmedberg
# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3b341b36d42 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 788729: Check rv of nsDirectoryService::Create, to fix GCC build warning. r=bsmedberg
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# [01:45] <RyanVM> roc: edwin's work
# [01:46] <@roc> no
# [01:46] <@roc> he's going to :-)
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# [01:49] <RyanVM> fair enough!
# [01:49] <RyanVM> it's a big deal :)
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# [02:00] <@dolske> wtf. am I dumb, or does Github not have a way to search within a repo?
# [02:01] <@dolske> alternatively, is there some web tool for usefully searching the webkit source?
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# [02:01] <@dolske> (Trac on webkit,org seems to suck too)
# [02:02] <kinetik> dolske: if you don't mind searching chrome's fork, you can use http://code.google.com/p/chromium/source/search
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# [02:03] <@dolske> chrome's fork seems outdated. :/
# [02:03] <KWierso|Home> dolske: apparently there's a code search tool on github: https://github.com/blog/202-github-code-search
# [02:03] <KWierso|Home> but I've never found it
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# [02:07] <kinetik> dolske: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AWebKit%2Fwebkit+HTMLMediaElement&repo=&langOverride=&start_value=1&type=Code&;language=
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# [02:08] <@dolske> ewww, but I'll take it.
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# [02:09] <@dolske> well
# [02:09] <@dolske> does it search every branch?
# [02:09] <@dolske> https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AWebKit%2Fwebkit+nwse_resize&repo=&langOverride=&start_value=1&type=Code&;language=
# [02:09] <@dolske> (so many identical results...)
# [02:11] <@dolske> this is just weird.
# [02:11] <@dolske> "repo:WebKit/webkit nwseresize" finds nothing. "repo:WebKit/webkit nwseResize" finds a bunch.
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# [02:11] <@dolske> but the results don't match the search casing at all. O_o
# [02:12] <@dolske> man, our tools really seem to suck until you try the alternatives!
# [02:13] <@roc> yes
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# [02:41] <njn> roc: you know about mochitests, right?
# [02:41] <@roc> not as much as some
# [02:41] <njn> roc: I'm having trouble with intermittency on one involving async I/O :(
# [02:42] <njn> roc: yeah, but it's Sunday in North America... :)
# [02:42] <njn> roc: does SimpleTest.executeSoon just force a trip through the event loop?
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# [02:43] <@roc> I believe so
# [02:43] <njn> roc: I'm adding a button to about:memory that allows JSON-stored memory reports to be read in
# [02:44] <njn> roc: the test loads a file, and then cut+pastes about:memory's contents
# [02:44] <@dbaron> njn, yeah, I think the intent is to be setTimeout without the clamping that setTimeout within setTimeout does
# [02:44] <njn> roc: I think it fails sometimes because the file loading is async
# [02:44] <njn> roc, dbaron: I could do a setTimeout to add a pause to give the file load more time, but that's obviously not good
# [02:45] <njn> but I don't have better ideas
# [02:45] <@dbaron> njn, you should poll for something
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# [02:45] <njn> dbaron: how do I do that? copy SimpleTest.waitForClipboard?
# [02:46] <@dbaron> njn, I've written tests that poll for their success condition every 10ms / 100ms, and then give up and fail if they're polling too long
# [02:46] <@dbaron> njn, dunno what that does
# [02:46] <njn> dbaron: it polls the clipboard
# [02:46] <njn> dbaron: can you point me at an example you've written?
# [02:46] <@dbaron> njn, layout/style/test/test_visited_reftests.html
# [02:47] <@dolske> istr that clipboard stuff was vary in asyncyness across platforms
# [02:48] <njn> dbaron: so it's just repeated setTimouts, ok
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# [02:48] <@dbaron> njn, that's ok... just using setTimeout and assuming something will be done in 100ms is not ok
# [02:48] <njn> dbaron: yep
# [02:49] <njn> dbaron: though I wonder if it's reasonable for about:memory to trigger an event when the loading is finished, just for the test to hook into
# [02:51] <@roc> polling's better
# [02:52] <@roc> you can just keep polling forever. If the test doesn't pass then the whole suite will time out
# [02:53] <njn> roc: that's a good thing?
# [02:53] <@dolske> Does Chrome do per-OS-version builds? EG, do they do separat 10.5 / 10.6 / 10.7 builds for various OS X releases?
# [02:53] * @dolske assumes not, but...
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# [02:54] <@dolske> njn: a slow failure (ie, not common-case) is quite ok
# [02:54] <njn> dolske: but slow != hangs forever...
# [02:55] <@dolske> we do polling in lots of tests where we can't precisely know when something happends (ie, no event or > 1 event-loop-spin).
# [02:56] <njn> dolske: I understand that pollling is reasonable; what surprised me was roc's statement that polling forever is ok
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# [02:56] <@dolske> well, if the thing you're polling for never actually happends, something is clearly wrong :)
# [02:57] <@dolske> fine to just let the test timeout (and fail) in that case
# [02:57] <njn> the question is: is a test that hangs on failure ok?
# [02:57] <njn> oh
# [02:57] <@dolske> yep
# [02:57] <njn> will the test harness timeout automatically
# [02:57] <njn> I see
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# [03:01] <@dbaron> though polling == failure isn't so great if there are multiple tests
# [03:01] <@dbaron> e.g., test_visited_harness.html used to poll until all the tests passed
# [03:01] <@dbaron> but if one failed, there wasn't a useful diagnostic
# [03:01] <@dbaron> so I added tests to make it actually have its own internal timeout that wasn't as long as the test suite's timeout
# [03:01] <@dbaron> so that it would be able to give a useful diagnostic
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# [03:05] <@dolske> I fixes a bug eons ago so that if the test suite encounters > X timeouts, it just gives up
# [03:06] <@dolske> on the basis that if something totally screwy happens, having 5 (?) failures + partial run is better than waiting days for everything to thime out
# [03:06] <@dolske> "I fixes". Me no type so good.
# [03:07] * KWierso|Home would prefer to rosemary out, personally
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# [03:07] <markh> that's only funny the first thyme!
# [03:08] <@dolske> sage advice.
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# [03:17] <RyanVM> everyone romaine calm
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# [03:42] <@bz> Does crash-stats just show extension UUIDs?
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# [03:42] <@bz> Or can I get the extension names out of it sanely?
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# [03:45] <KWierso|Home> bz: maybe AMO has some API to get names from UUIDs?
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# [04:01] <@bz> KWierso|Home: well, I can just Google too
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# [04:01] <@bz> KWierso|Home: I was kinda hoping maybe crash-stats would tell me. ;)
# [04:04] <@dolske> I vaguely thought crash-stats already did that, at least for teh uuids it knew about
# [04:05] <KWierso|Home> dolske: I've got a number of addons that it should know about, but https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-85ec9fa7-c8ea-4aaf-89b8-5a08d2120907 only shows the IDs
# [04:06] <@dbaron> the fun ones are generally the ones that it shouldn't know about, anyway
# [04:06] <@dbaron> my old crash-extension correlation scripts used a slightly-augmented dump of the AMO list
# [04:06] <Unfocused> i'd hope so, given we don't submit the names of addons - it has to figure that out for itself
# [04:07] <@dbaron> not sure what the current correlation stuff does
# [04:07] <Unfocused> oh, i misread that...
# [04:07] <@dbaron> fun in the sense of causing interesting crashes
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# [04:08] <Unfocused> (and yes, amo does have an api that lets you query by ID)
# [04:10] <@dolske> seems like we should just submit the names too.
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# [04:11] <@dolske> (aiui it's about avoiding privacy issues with the names of an undistributed add-on, but that seem so terribly edge-casy)
# [04:11] <Unfocused> https://services.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/api/2/search/guid:%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D
# [04:11] <Unfocused> yay xml!
# [04:12] <@dolske> <error>The API version, 2.0, you are using is not valid. Please upgrade to the current version 1.5 API.</error>
# [04:12] <@dolske> O_o
# [04:12] <@dolske> yay xml, indeed
# [04:12] <Unfocused> er, how'd you get that?
# [04:13] <@dolske> I.... opened the URL you linked?
# [04:13] * Unfocused can't remember if there's a bug to submit names too or not
# [04:13] <Unfocused> huh, wfm
# [04:13] <nthomas> wfm too
# [04:14] <@dolske> oh
# [04:14] <@dolske> my irc client chose to stop selecting at the colon.
# [04:14] <@dolske> so, https://services.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/api/2/search/guid
# [04:14] <Unfocused> ah
# [04:14] <KWierso|Home> empty guid is best guid
# [04:15] <@dolske> mmm. <slug>s
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# [04:15] <Unfocused> trouble is, the data format set send is kinda awful, and its not so simple to just add stuff (format is: "id:version,id:version")
# [04:17] <Unfocused> there was something else i wondered about adding to that a few months ago (info about compatibility), so it might just be time to update that data format
# [04:18] <@dolske> but XML is the future!
# [04:18] <JonathanS> dbaron, i think JSON is
# [04:19] <JonathanS> oops wrong one. :(
# [04:19] <JonathanS> ^ dolske
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# [04:20] <Unfocused> was talking about the crash reporter annotation data for extensions, but i wouln't mind switching the amo api to json too :\
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# [04:26] <@bz> dolske: You're saying XML == heat death?
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# [04:56] <darktrojan> NoScript will be disabled after you restart Nightly. *restart*
# [04:56] <darktrojan> NoScript will be disabled after you restart Nightly.
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# [05:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/060dd12ee38b - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 789762 - Annotate the fuzzy antialiasing in reftests/svg/text-layout-01.svg on OS X 10.8, a=test-only
# [05:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/61636039dbea - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 789761 - Annotate reftests/list-item/numbering-1.html as being a little fuzzy on OS X 10.8, a=test-only
# [05:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c2d92e28603a - Phil Ringnalda - Switch reftest conditions for OSX to use the OSX variable from bug 789771 instead of a regex, a=test-only
# [05:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/48737e8e81e3 - L. David Baron - Bug 789771 - Add an OSX variable to the reftest condition sandbox to make it easier to test Mac OS X versions, r=roc, a=test-only
# [05:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/94ed7e336df4 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 789763 - Annotate the fuzzy antialiased text in reftests/transform-3d/scale3d-all.html and scale3d-all-separate.html on OS X 10.8, a=test-only
# [05:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f3eb8f437953 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 789759 - Annotate 363858-5a.html and 363858-6a.html reftests as being a tiny bit fuzzy on OS X 10.8, a=test-only
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# [05:29] <philor> we dropped support for 10.5 with 18, and it's still supported for 17, right?
# [05:31] <KWierso|Home> philor: bug 773120 makes me think it was dropped for 17
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# [05:32] <philor> KWierso|Home: oh, yeah, we dropped support for 17, we just didn't manage to stop running it until 18 :)
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# [05:54] <@dolske> My understanding was that we dropped it for 17 (so that we didn't have a long-running branch officially supported), but that we also didn't explicitly make it incompatible so that 3rd parties could support if it if desired.
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# [06:06] <philor> yes, now that you mention it, beta *is* my tryserver
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# [06:27] <ewong> it would've been funny had philor said "release *is* my tryserver" ;P
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# [06:44] <fabrice> what's the way in nsXBLPrototypeHandler::ExecuteHandler() to known with xbl script is being executed?
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# [06:50] <philor> argh
# [06:53] <philor> we report differing pixels, max difference on 16, and max difference, differing pixels on 17+?
# [06:53] <philor> how special!
# [06:54] <@roc> dbaron changed it, to match the reftest harness
# [06:54] <@roc> which is sane
# [06:54] <philor> yeah
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# [06:55] <philor> alas, I'll be pushing to beta for a third time, since I didn't realize I had to adjust my numbers in reverse
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# [06:56] <@dbaron> actually mattwoodrow changed it, but it remains a general improvement in sanity :-)
# [06:56] <philor> not doing much for my sanity right now, though
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# [07:11] <philor> mmm, #tbpl is +s? that probably doesn't add much to its total lack of utility
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# [08:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3eb1c4456082 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 787370 - Part 2/3: add debug messages for SMS-STATUS-REPORT, r=marshall_law
# [08:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21244f4a873b - Vicamo Yang - Bug 787370 - Part 3/3: test script, r=marshall_law
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# [09:27] <IanN> mxr down?
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# [09:28] <deLta30> working for me...
# [09:29] <IanN> yeah, it's started working again, was getting Service Unavailable
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# [09:54] <glazou> bonjour
# [09:55] <IanN> haven't apple TM that?
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# [09:57] <glazou> I think we started using it some time before apple
# [09:57] <IanN> prior art no longer seems to matter ;)
# [09:57] <glazou> I was expecting that answer :-)
# [09:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c2e8166ec5d7 - Thaddee Tyl - Bug 747820 - Style editor breaks with non-latin encoding. r=msucan f=cedricv
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/008527c74b67 - Girish Sharma - Bug 751744 - Add a Revert to Saved menu item to the scratchpad; r=harth
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aaa9837d68b3 - Joe Walker - Bug 773185 - [devtb] key sequence should close toolbar if gcli already has focus; r=mikeratcliffe
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8467163cb51a - Victor Porof - Merge m-c to fx-team
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dea1d1224107 - Quentin Pradet - Bug 764856 - GCLI should allow fuzzy matching of commands; r=jwalker
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1349f5b8385a - OHZEKI Tetsuharu - Bug 785715 - Change the parameter name of GCLI-screenshot to "selector" from "node". r=jwalker
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c606437fca80 - Joe Walker - Bug 788486 - GCLI rollup bug fix for bugs 786317, 739947, 708984, 786658, 681623, 787712; r=dcamp
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5a46e13426b9 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to fx-team
# [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1cb30394aa56 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
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# [09:59] <IanN> :D
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# [10:05] <glazou> maybe we should patent the "prior art does not matter" answer :-D
# [10:07] <IanN> that might cause a logic loop / hang
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# [10:09] <@smaug> tanvi: ping
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# [10:19] <NeilAway> is firebot just reporting pushes in a weird order or why are there two merges in a row?
# [10:19] <froydnj> is there a good way to filter bugmail that you are CC'd on/assigned to regardless of whether people on your watchlist are CC'd, etc.?
# [10:20] <NeilAway> use a second account for watchlist?
# [10:20] <froydnj> o.O
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# [10:22] <froydnj> seriously, this is the best way to do things? boo
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# [10:33] <markh> I'd expect the X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason and/or X-Bugzilla-Reason headers to be different in that case...
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# [10:37] <froydnj> X-Bugzilla-Reason is, afaict, useless for continual filtering
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# [10:37] <froydnj> maybe I just haven't looked at enough examples
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# [10:40] <NeilAway> markh: I would expect x-bugzilla-reason to be the same, I hadn't heard of x-bugzilla-watch-reason
# [10:41] <markh> I see it set when I watch a component - I was guessing it might be set to something sane if it is sent because you are watching a person too, but I've actually no idea if that is true or not!
# [10:42] <markh> 'X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: Component-Watcher'
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# [10:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/399c829bc942 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 787102 - (2/2) - Dispatch the change event for textarea elements even if .value is set while focused. r=bz a=lsblakk
# [10:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3a7a2c2c6ea7 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 787102 - (1/2) - Dispatch the change event for input elements even if .value is set while focused. r=bz a=lsblakk
# [10:44] <glob> markh, there's two ways to watch a component ..
# [10:45] <glob> you can watch it via the component watching preferences tab
# [10:45] <glob> or by watching a user which is bound to the component (the "watch-user")
# [10:45] <markh> ah - interesting
# [10:45] <glob> on the backend, there's no functional difference between the two, and both will result in component-watcher as the watch-reason
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# [10:46] <glob> froydnj, i use X-Bugzilla-Reason contains CC
# [10:47] <markh> from froydnj's POV, that distinction may not matter though - but I'm just speculating...
# [10:47] <glob> which works well for me
# [10:47] <glob> froydnj, what makes it useless for you?
# [10:47] <froydnj> glob: I was confused on when it got set
# [10:47] <froydnj> glob: I think it's what I need, thanks!
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# [11:34] <glandium> past: ping
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# [11:37] <sewardj> BenWa: ping
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# [11:38] <past> glandium: pong
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# [11:39] <glandium> past: hey
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# [11:39] <glandium> past: i tested your patch for the remote debugging protocol for b2g. it works. I didn't re-test for mobile, but provided it's doing the same thing as the one you gave me earlier, it should be fine
# [11:40] <glandium> past: but now, i'm wondering how i can register the profiler actor
# [11:41] <past> glandium: ok, you mean the one in bug 789114 right?
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# [11:41] <glandium> past: obviously, i can add the addActor call in the various browser.js, but it seems to me that doesn't quite scale. and it would probably be better to make it optional
# [11:41] <glandium> past: yes
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# [11:42] <past> since we are shipping the profiler with firefox, b2g and fennec it seems to me like you could unconditionally add them in the debugger server's initialization
# [11:42] <past> (or conditional on a pref)
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# [11:43] <past> unless there is significant overhead in just creating the profiler actor
# [11:45] <glandium> past: i don't think there is. i guess it can make some sense, especially if the debugger server itself is conditional
# [11:47] <past> it is (devtools.debugger.remote-enabled)
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# [12:01] <jaws> Bas: ping?
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# [12:02] <jaws> BenWa: ping?
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# [12:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b6afc4c7b06 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 788418 - Image error is unreadable against dark background. r=jaws
# [12:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/144e050b27cc - Dão Gottwald - Bug 789079 - In the tab container's dragover handler, calculate the drop indicator's minimum and maximum margins only when scrolling. r=jaws
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# [12:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/294df682af4c - Lucas Rocha - Bug 788119 - Don't even parse home pages in Reader's worker thread (r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk)
# [12:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d47f00b3ad36 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785992 - Sanitize parsed reader mode article when viewing (r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk)
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# [12:50] <jaws> Bas: unping, i think vladan already got in touch with you :)
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# [12:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31d9c13dcd27 - Andres Hernandez - Bug 787745 - try to fix intermittent browser_DeferredTask.js failure by having DeferredTask completely re-initialize its timer, rather than just re-setting its delay,
# [12:54] <firebot> r=gavin
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# [12:59] <NeilAway> gavin: hmm, if that works, does that mean that there's a timer bug or that there's a Lazy.jsm bug?
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# [13:00] <@gavin> NeilAway: I suppose it would be a timer bug
# [13:00] <Bas> jaws: Yup, are you guys back at the venue?
# [13:01] <@gavin> Bas: yes
# [13:02] <@gavin> Noa Cowork, not the mozcamp venue, to be clear
# [13:02] <@gavin> it's down the street from the hotel
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# [13:03] <Bas> gavin: Yeah, I know :)
# [13:04] <Bas> gavin: That was a quick lunch :)
# [13:06] <froydnj> Bas: haven't gotten lunch yet, we have to go pick it up
# [13:07] <froydnj> takes a long time to prepare lunch for 15-ish people :)
# [13:07] <Bas> Ooh, alright :) I was told on the phone showing up before 1300 was going to be pointless because I wouldn't be able to get in :)
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# [13:08] <Bas> froydnj: How's the internet connection there? I need to do some pulls and I'm not sure if I should do it now on my decent hotel connection :)
# [13:08] <@smaug> (someone is talking loudly about cycle collection in some other room...maybe nothing important, or only about how awesome it is.)
# [13:08] <sewardj> Bas: it kinda works
# [13:10] <glandium> it works better than the hotel one
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# [13:56] <jbeich> gaston: what's more correct with 6th level name for KERN_PROC_PID ? chromium seems to use 0, see http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/base/debug/debugger_posix.cc
# [13:58] <jbeich> gaston: ... in context of bug 789817
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# [13:59] <gaston> jbeich: The fifth level name is the size of the struct kinfo_proc and the
# [13:59] <gaston> sixth level name is the number of structures to return.
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# [14:01] <gaston> i'll see with chromium maintainer so he can fix it on his side
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# [14:03] <jbeich> gaston: I see it also adds malloc/free but those seem unnecessary. If kinfo_proc changes the code would still need a recomplation because 5th level name contains compile-time constant.
# [14:03] <jbeich> gaston: in the port
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# [14:10] <glandium> note for later: never ever run a mozilla build in a shell in which the bin/activate of the jetpack sdk has been used
# [14:10] <glandium> s/run a mozilla build/build m-c/
# [14:10] <Callek> glandium: |deactivate| :-)
# [14:12] <glandium> Callek: well, now i do wonder if, since we're using a virtualenv, we shouldn't reset PYTHONPATH
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# [14:19] <darktrojan> catlee, by shutdown hang do you mean window closed but program not exited?
# [14:20] * darktrojan has seen that a few times lately
# [14:20] <catlee> darktrojan: yeah
# [14:20] <catlee> I was trying to restart to apply an update
# [14:22] <darktrojan> hmm updating wfm just then
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# [14:25] <darktrojan> that would explain what I've been seeing
# [14:25] <zzzzz_> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789773
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# [14:29] <@ted> hum, we don't have EventTracer support for gonk, do we
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# [14:29] <@ted> means the profiler can't do responsiveness detection on B2G
# [14:29] <@ted> BenWa: we should probably fix that
# [14:30] <BenWa> ted: Yea that would be nice
# [14:30] <@ted> i don't think it should be super hard, it's just like 2 functions
# [14:30] <catlee> zzzzz_: yeah, I do
# [14:30] <BenWa> Keep in mind that responsiveness excludes panning with async pan zoom
# [14:30] <@ted> 4, i guess
# [14:30] <BenWa> and animations and video if their enabled to run off main thread
# [14:30] <zzzzz_> catlee: see bug above
# [14:30] <@ted> BenWa: ah, bummer
# [14:30] <BenWa> Well that's a good actually
# [14:31] <BenWa> But responsiveness is important for stuff like typing, touch events etc...
# [14:32] <@ted> true
# [14:32] <@ted> oh, sorry, misinterpreted what you said
# [14:32] <BenWa> np, this stuff gets confusing
# [14:32] <glandium> on b2g, another limiting factor to the profiler is e10s
# [14:32] <BenWa> and platform+preference specific
# [14:33] <@ted> glandium: mm, that's true, but we can measure the responsiveness of the chrome process, i guess
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# [14:33] <@ted> i intentionally punted on that when i first implemented it
# [14:33] <BenWa> glandium: I'm hoping we can solve that the same way as the remote debugging
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# [14:34] <glandium> BenWa: the main problem is that we need a whole picture. not only one of main or content process, but both
# [14:34] <BenWa> glandium: I wanted to go to your b2g profiling presentation but I spent the time answering questions after my presentation. How did it go?
# [14:35] <glandium> BenWa: had hardly anything to demonstrate, since it wasn't working :(
# [14:35] <BenWa> glandium: Well I hoping you could dump both profiles at about the same time and chop off samples for that +- 1ms
# [14:35] <BenWa> Darn, I was wondering if you had an old version cache :(
# [14:35] <BenWa> We need better testing
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# [14:36] <glandium> BenWa: my goal this week is to get it working properly
# [14:36] <glandium> BenWa: currently, neither the current adb thing nor remote debugging protocol work for me
# [14:36] <BenWa> glandium: Great, I can spend some time to debug it with you
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# [14:37] <glandium> BenWa: yeah, i'll pick your brains at some point. mostly on the addon part
# [14:38] <BenWa> the remote debugging stuff isn't integrated so it wouldn't work
# [14:38] <BenWa> There's just sample code to call the functions thats it
# [14:39] <glandium> BenWa: you mean in the addon?
# [14:39] <BenWa> Yes
# [14:40] <glandium> BenWa: i hacked it to get it working, but the hacks are really ugly. the result is that b2g and ff/android are both crashing when using the profiler through the rdp
# [14:40] <glandium> but that hasn't anything to do with the hacks being ugly
# [14:40] <BenWa> I was thinking of porting my addon to Fennec but it really doesn't help us for b2g =\
# [14:41] <BenWa> Crashing? Umm
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# [14:41] <glandium> segfault
# [14:41] <glandium> both
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# [14:42] <glandium> haven't had time to fully debug last week. currently rebuilding fennec to go further
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# [15:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5bda1ce96ca - Jacek Caban - Bug 789904 - QuerySelector doesn't set result to null on successful call with no matches r=bz
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# [15:12] <sysKin> my nightly uses 100% of a cpu core. I have a profile here (using gecko profiler addon), how can I share it?
# [15:12] <BenWa> sysKin: Hit the upload button in the bottom right
# [15:12] <BenWa> copy the link and paste it here
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# [15:13] <sysKin> yeah that button seems to do nothing at all o_O
# [15:13] <sysKin> which makes me think I'm doing it wrong L:D
# [15:14] <sysKin> oh wait. is it supposed to open a new window? because that doesn't work for me on any nightly since Saturday or so
# [15:15] <sysKin> another mistery, for what it's worth
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# [15:17] <sysKin> anyway, profile is simply creating image decoders and decoding images
# [15:17] <sysKin> I'll just kill the process I guess.... (exiting it doesn't work since Saturday either)
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# [15:22] <sysKin> ok, download button doing nothing is bug 789773 and the image decoding thingy might very well be related. thanks for your help BenWa
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# [15:24] <BenWa> sysKin: use upload, not download
# [15:24] <sysKin> um yes I mean upload
# [15:24] <sysKin> download actually did work because it doesn't open a new window :]
# [15:25] <sysKin> every popup seems to be broken with current nightly and noscript, at least for me
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# [15:30] <BenWa> sysKin: There's no popup, I'm in a meeting if you catch me later I can help you
# [15:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/934cda049063 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 786019 - gcc 4.2 is dead, simplify code that was complicated because of
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# [15:30] <sysKin> BenWa: existing noscript compatibility bug prevents it from working, and probably also causes the problem. I call case closed
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# [15:37] <edmorley> sysKin: current noscript breaks things like gmail tasks popup button for me too fwiw
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# [15:39] <jbeich> browserid login pop-up (in bugzilla) doesn't work because of noscript, too
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# [15:40] <@bz> "Lack of scripting breaks gmail, news at 11"?
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# [15:43] <edmorley> bz: with gmail whitelisted
# [15:43] <@bz> edmorley: yeah, I know. Just being snarky...
# [15:43] <sysKin> :)
# [15:44] <edmorley> :-)
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# [15:52] <glandium> past: did something change recently in the debugger server? i updated my tree this morning, and neither the previous patch nor the new patch works now... it doesn't give me the profiler actor on the client
# [15:52] <glandium> info: {"from":"root","selected":0,"tabs":[{"actor":"conn0.tab2","title":"Problem loading page","url":"http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/"}]}
# [15:52] <glandium> past: ^ that's what listTabs gives me
# [15:54] <past> glandium: no, not that I know of
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# [15:56] <past> glandium: do the 4 patches still apply cleanly?
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# [15:57] <glandium> past: 753401 and 751034 apply cleanly. There were context conflicts in 781515, that i updated. what was the 4th?
# [15:57] <past> glandium: 789114
# [15:58] <glandium> past: btw, is there an open bug for remote-enabled=true not starting the server on startup on fennec?
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# [15:58] <past> glandium: not that I know of
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# [15:59] <glandium> mmm looks like my build was just broken somehow. let's now retry with the new patches
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# [16:08] <@ted> espindola: i know people have mentioned using stock gcc to build firefox on mac before
# [16:08] <@ted> i'm pretty sure it used to work okay
# [16:08] <glandium> ted: that was probably before using blocks
# [16:08] <@ted> ah
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# [16:13] <edmorley> snorp: when the patch for bug 789791 gets r+, if you land on m-c I'll respin
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# [16:13] <snorp> edmorley: fantastic, thanks
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# [16:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f3b341b36d42 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 788729: Check rv of nsDirectoryService::Create, to fix GCC build warning. r=bsmedberg
# [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/21244f4a873b - Vicamo Yang - Bug 787370 - Part 3/3: test script, r=marshall_law
# [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/12dad118c02f - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
# [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/70a0eda09c3c - Daniel Holbert - Bug 789382: Change nsIScriptError methods init() and initWithWindowID() to take nsAString, rather than wchar / PRUnichar*. r=bz sr=bsmedberg
# [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/db7ae51b909d - Vicamo Yang - Bug 787370 - Part 1/3: notify missed SmsManager.onsent event, r=marshall_law
# [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d329814112b4 - Chris Pearce - Bug 779286 - Allow document.documentElement to still be scrollable when made fullscreen. r=roc
# [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3eb1c4456082 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 787370 - Part 2/3: add debug messages for SMS-STATUS-REPORT, r=marshall_law
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# [16:15] <bhearsum> has anyone else noticed that "don't load tabs until selected" seems to be busted?
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# [16:16] <bhearsum> on nightly, it doesn't seem to work with Tab Groups -- when i switch to a new group an hour after starting Firefox it needs to load those tabs
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# [16:17] <bhearsum> i should note that that option is unchecked in my prefs
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# [16:23] <glandium> past: okay, i confirmed it works.
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# [16:23] <past> glandium: cool
# [16:23] <glandium> past: my previous build was only half broken
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# [16:25] <glandium> past: can you ask review for 789114?
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# [16:27] <past> glandium: I want to try another version of the patch first
# [16:28] <past> glandium: I'll ping you for feedback if it turns out ok
# [16:30] <glandium> past: ok
# [16:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b913d21dd208 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 775368 - Porting Websockets to WebIDL, r=bz
# [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cbc8f1be382 - Paul Adenot - Bug 789741 - Fix a crash in nsMediaSniffer::GetMIMETypeFromContent. r=bz
# [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52ad01f2b38e - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 789691 - Migrate BlobPropertyBag to WebIDL binding dictionary, r=bzbarsky
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# [16:34] <@bz> https://people.mozilla.com/~amarchesini/code/transferrable/
# [16:34] <@bz> "This Connection is Untrusted"
# [16:34] * @bz wonders where to file the bug on people.mozilla.com
# [16:34] <bhearsum> bz: mozilla.org:ServerOps
# [16:34] * @bz also wonders whether this was intermittent
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# [16:35] <@bz> no
# [16:35] <@bz> it's not
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# [16:35] <@bz> but it _does_ go away if I wait long enough
# [16:35] <@bz> awesome
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# [16:37] <lahabana> bz ping
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# [16:39] <@bz> labahana: ack
# [16:40] <glandium> ted: i've been asking myself that question for a while (about elf-dynstr-gc)
# [16:40] <lahabana> bz I'm quite stuck with bug 157846
# [16:41] <lahabana> padding on textareas misplaced
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# [16:42] <lahabana> I submitted a patch but roc says I shouldn't used SetComputedWidth
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# [16:42] <lahabana> though it doesn't seem clear to me
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# [16:43] <lahabana> it seems logical that the parent will tell to the children what is its size
# [16:43] <lahabana> no?
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# [16:47] <@bz> generally not...
# [16:47] <@bz> generally the parent tells the kids what the available space is
# [16:47] <@bz> and the kids decide on the size
# [16:47] <@bz> there _are_ some cases we want to SetComputedWidth in
# [16:47] <@bz> but why is this ending up as such a case?
# [16:49] <lahabana> yes but in our case that's the case no?
# [16:49] <lahabana> as we want the kid to take all space available
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# [16:50] <lahabana> e.g. the scrollbar frame to take all the space minus the borders in our TextControlFrame
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# [16:53] <@bz> lahabana: yes, but blocks do that naturally anyway
# [16:53] <@bz> lahabana: so why are you having to tell it anything special
# [16:53] <@bz> ?
# [16:54] <lahabana> hmm
# [16:54] <lahabana> cause it doesn't work otherwise
# [16:54] <lahabana> in explicit sizing at least
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# [16:54] <espindola> ted, so is the patch with the typo fix ok?
# [16:55] <lahabana> no yes I get it
# [16:55] <lahabana> bz: the thing is that the parent still has the margin
# [16:55] <lahabana> s/margin/padding/
# [16:56] <lahabana> that is ignored in our case as it's only taken into account in the kids' frame
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# [16:58] <@bz> lahabana: right...
# [16:58] <@bz> lahabana: so the parent takes that into account when passing the available width to the kid, or no?
# [16:58] <lahabana> yes
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# [17:01] <@bz> lahabana: ok, then why doesn't it work?
# [17:02] <lahabana> it does work
# [17:02] <lahabana> but roc doesn't seem to agree with that method
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# [17:03] <lahabana> bz here's my current reflow code http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1814299
# [17:03] <lahabana> if that elps
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# [17:05] <drexler> glandium: ping
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# [17:09] <sid0> what version of Firefox are we targeting for Windows 8 desktop support?
# [17:10] <bhearsum> bbondy: ^
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# [17:10] <lmandel> BenWa: Have you seen http://www.tomshardware.com/news/firefox-gpu-driver-web-gl-acceleration,17380.html?
# [17:10] <bbondy> not sure we may land on m-c in v18, but v19 will be more complete
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# [17:11] <bbondy> we'll probably land on v18 but we may disable it on purpose if it's not complete enough
# [17:11] <mbrubeck> sid0: We may go as far as beta but disable on release for a cycle or two, also...
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# [17:13] <sid0> bbondy: for desktop or Metro?
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# [17:13] <bbondy> oh for metro
# [17:13] <bbondy> did you maen desktop?
# [17:13] <bbondy> crap read it wrong
# [17:14] <sid0> yes I meant desktop
# [17:14] <sid0> because about:support is completely broken on my machine
# [17:14] <sid0> and I'm quite concerned about it
# [17:14] <sid0> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789830
# [17:15] <bbondy> I'm not sure about desktop
# [17:15] <sid0> (I upgraded to win8 last weekend)
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# [17:15] <wlach> random question: is there anything blocking us from using hg/git subrepos in mozilla-central? (aside from the problem of translating between hg and git revisions for said subrepos)
# [17:16] <bbondy> what version does oct. 26 fall in
# [17:16] <sid0> bbondy: 16!
# [17:16] <sid0> which is in beta
# [17:17] <sid0> ugh ugh
# [17:17] <bbondy> so if there's anything critical I think we should probably nominate it for traking
# [17:17] <mbrubeck> bbondy: just did
# [17:18] <glandium> drexler: pong
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# [17:19] <drexler> glandium: any ideas on how to resolve this issue ===> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1811979
# [17:19] <bbondy> sid0 fwiw my machine has that reg location
# [17:19] <bbondy> my win8 machine
# [17:19] <drexler> glandium: heard you were the goto guy :)
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# [17:19] <bbondy> and I have a physical install
# [17:19] <glandium> drexler: bug 789837
# [17:19] <sid0> bbondy: what graphics card?
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# [17:20] <bbondy> Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
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# [17:20] <sid0> hm
# [17:20] <bbondy> adapter drivers igdumd64 igd10umd64 igd10umd64 igdumd32 igd10umd32 igd10umd32
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# [17:20] <sid0> intel might be fine. this might be an AMD bug? these are the only AMD win8 drivers out there
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# [17:22] <philor> tempting. I should be able to get an across-the-board across-all-trees talos improvement and noise reduction on 10.7, by pushing http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1814302 to try and retriggering it 100 times
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# [17:23] <wlach> philor: nice
# [17:23] <bbondy> sid0 maybe check if the info is stored somewhere else
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# [17:24] <bbondy> maybe the same machine would reproduce that bug on win7
# [17:24] <bbondy> ?
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# [17:31] <@gavin> ehsan_tb: ping?
# [17:31] <@gavin> or ehsan
# [17:31] <@ehsan> gavin: hey
# [17:31] <@gavin> hi!
# [17:31] <@gavin> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788489#c6
# [17:31] <@gavin> I think you missed my point in that comment
# [17:32] <@ehsan> gavin: perhaps... so what did you mean?
# [17:33] <@gavin> actually, nm
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# [17:33] <@gavin> you meant "release mozconfigs don't have --disable-profiling in them"
# [17:33] <@gavin> instead of "release mozconfigs don't have --enable-profiling in them"
# [17:33] <@gavin> which confused me
# [17:34] <@ehsan> gavin: they don't have either
# [17:34] <@gavin> yes, I know
# [17:34] <@gavin> but switching it around broke my mental model of the problem in a confusing way
# [17:34] <@ehsan> and true, they're also not used on central anyways
# [17:34] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [17:34] <@ehsan> I switched to disable since I didn't know how to use sed to delete a line
# [17:34] <@ehsan> and then catlee taught me how
# [17:34] <@gavin> yeah
# [17:35] <@gavin> I don't know why I even bothrered following up on this
# [17:35] <@ehsan> it's fine :)
# [17:35] <catlee> all I want is the release and nightly mozconfigs to match
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# [17:35] <@gavin> catlee: but you don't really care about them matching on m-c much, right?
# [17:35] <@ehsan> catlee: so how come they're so different?
# [17:36] <@gavin> catlee: (because release mozconfigs aren't used on m-c?)
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# [17:36] <catlee> gavin: on m-c not really...but it's the best place to make changes to both since then they ride the trains without further effort
# [17:36] <@gavin> yep, ok
# [17:37] <catlee> ehsan: minor differences for the most part
# [17:37] <catlee> some are release specific like branding
# [17:37] <@ehsan> catlee: hmm, ok
# [17:38] <catlee> we have a bug to check that they're in sync on m-c
# [17:39] <_AtilA_> How can I check in default-gecko-config the value of some VARIABLE := true setted in a .mk file ?
# [17:39] <catlee> perhaps as part of 'make check'
# [17:40] <mbrubeck> catlee: Perhaps the release mozconfig should just source the nightly one and then make minimal changes to it (or vice-versa)?
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# [17:41] <mbrubeck> i.e. eliminate all the duplication, so it can no longer get out of sync
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# [17:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b7937e22e5a - Dão Gottwald - Bug 789833 - Don't give pinned tabs a min-height on Windows. r=ttaubert
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# [18:08] <sid0> bbondy: and I did search through the registry, didn't find it anywhere
# [18:08] <bbondy> k
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# [18:19] <ddahl> glandium: ted: a patch I am unbitrotting used to have MOZ_DISABLE_DOMCRYPTOLEGACY = @MOZ_DISABLE_DOMCRYPTOLEGACY@ in config/autoconf.mk.in not sure how to fix: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1814387
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# [18:23] <jwir3> so we have mozilla::Preferences::AddUIntVarCache and mozilla::Preferences::AddIntVarCache, but is there a way to cache strings to a variable?
# [18:24] <glandium> ddahl: removing any patch to config/autoconf.mk.in
# [18:24] <jbeich> glandium: (regarding bug 788955) I can't push to TryServer myself, no access.
# [18:25] <ddahl> glandium: yes, I figure that line or ( something like it ) needs to sit somewhere else
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# [18:36] <ddahl> glandium: ah
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# [18:39] <ddahl> glandium: ok
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# [19:01] <@bz> hmm
# [19:01] <NeilAway> jwir3: doubtful, because of ownership issues
# [19:02] <jwir3> NeilAway: ok. can you elaborate?
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# [19:03] <jwir3> sorry, I think you mean because we're almost guaranteed to leak memory, due to ns*String not being a primitive, and the ownership/lifecycle of a preference variable isn't structured to prevent it?
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# [19:03] <jwir3> is that correct?
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# [19:03] <@bz> thunderbird's seach in "body" is pretty weird for mail with attachments....
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# [19:11] <NeilAway> eek
# [19:11] <NeilAway> I clicked "Retry" to debug the application but it didn't debug :-(
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# [19:54] <@smaug> could we have XPCOM_MEM_LEAK_LOG=1 by default on debug builds
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# [20:00] <tanvi> smaug: pong
# [20:00] <@smaug> tanvi: I commented on the bug
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# [20:01] <tanvi> yeah i saw. so should i do a loop through the tests, testing them for the different states the prefs could be in - (false, false), (false, true), (true,false), and (true, true)
# [20:01] <tanvi> so it will run 28 tests total?
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# [20:03] <@smaug> sounds good
# [20:03] <tanvi> thanks :)
# [20:03] <tanvi> will update and repost
# [20:04] <@bz> We could have a monkey reach out of the screen and punch the user whenever we leak
# [20:04] <@dbaron> So I'm wondering if the sentence " Inbound is no replacement for Try. You still need to test your patches before pushing. " in https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules/Inbound should be qualified a little to explain that it doesn't mean that everything needs to be pushed to try or that everything needs to be pushed to try on all platforms; instead, that an amount of caution should be taken appropriate to the change
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# [20:05] <@dbaron> bz, that was roughly the idea of my leak monitor extension :-)
# [20:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc546b6fe5b5 - James Willcox - Bug 789791 - Use contents of update.locale file in update URL on Android r=mfinkle
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# [20:05] <@dbaron> (but for a subset of leaks)
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# [20:06] <snorp> edmorley|meeting: updater fixes are inbound, so would be nice to get a merge + respin at some point if you can
# [20:06] <snorp> edmorley|meeting: fixes are on inbound, that is
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# [20:06] <@ehsan> jduell: do you have some time today to talk over the nsIChannel horrible-ness? :)
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# [20:07] <mbrubeck> snorp: We don't merge arbitrary changesets is from inbound to central; we need to wait for some changeset on or after your push to have a full set of builds and tests with no bustage, which *may* happen this afternoon or evening. If you want a respin sooner than that, you must land directly on m-c.
# [20:08] <snorp> mbrubeck: oh, I know
# [20:08] <jwir3> firefox used to show on the title bar which group of tabs I was in... is there any way to restore this behavior?
# [20:08] <snorp> mbrubeck: I meant "once it was green please merge"
# [20:08] <philor> alas, you have mochitest-1 bustage below you
# [20:08] <snorp> mbrubeck: I guess as long as we get merged before nightly build that's good enough
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# [20:08] <mbrubeck> snorp: So you might want to talk to RyanVM if he's around later, since edmorley|meeting will probably not be around by the time we have new PGO builds on your change.
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# [20:09] <snorp> mbrubeck: ah
# [20:09] <philor> oh, no, you just have unfiled mochitest-1 randomness below you
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# [20:10] <jduell> ehsan: yes, let's do that. I'm ready when you are
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# [20:15] <@ehsan> jduell: ok can we talk in like 5 minutes?
# [20:15] <jduell> ehsan: yup, just ping me
# [20:16] <@ehsan> k
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# [20:23] <@ehsan> jduell: ok I'm ready now
# [20:23] <@ehsan> jduell: skype or vidyo?
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# [20:37] <gfritzsche> philor: ping
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# [20:39] <gfritzsche> philor: question from me :)
# [20:40] <gfritzsche> philor: do you happen to know these m2 failures on linux64 here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4f62340a562f
# [20:40] <gfritzsche> (intermittent crash dumps)
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# [20:41] <philor> gfritzsche: oh, I was going to ask about bug 705570 - do we want to enable Java, and just say too bad for people who disable it, their tests will leak?
# [20:41] <gfritzsche> philor: i can look into that leak case when i have the time, but i guess it's a pretty rare corner case
# [20:42] <philor> that m2 crap is just getting thrown into bug 782505 for now, maybe someday they'll decide they want separate bugs for their separate symptoms
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# [20:42] <gfritzsche> philor: ah, thank you... then i can move on with that patch :)
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# [20:43] <philor> gfritzsche: well, the problem is that we have wasted an enormous amount of machine time running three test suites hidden on 10.7, and now three more on 10.8
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# [20:46] <gfritzsche> philor: sorry, for 705570?
# [20:47] <bbondy> loving try builds via pymake :D
# [20:47] <vlad> ctalbert|mtg: so I have good news and bad news
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# [20:48] <philor> gfritzsche: right, because of 705570, we've had 10.7 debug mochitest-1, mochitest-3 and crashtest hidden for the last 11 months, now we have the same things hidden for 10.8 too
# [20:49] <ctalbert|mtg> vlad ok, which do you want to start with?
# [20:49] <vlad> ctalbert|mtg: the good news is, adding mdns stuff to SUTAgent works
# [20:49] <vlad> I can do a query of the network and get:
# [20:49] <vlad> 14:32 <vlad> I didn't set a time because I didn't get much feedback on the time
# [20:49] <vlad> er
# [20:49] <vlad> 14:32 <vlad> I didn't set a time because I didn't get much feedback on the time
# [20:49] <vlad> damnit
# [20:50] <vlad> *** Found name = 'SUTAgent [hwid:015d2bc2825ff206] [ip:10_242_29_221]', type = '_sutagent._tcp', domain = 'local'
# [20:50] <vlad> by querying everything with type '_sutagent._tcp'
# [20:51] <vlad> the bad news is, there's an issue with multicast reception on android, so I can't do the full "resolution" of that service
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# [20:51] <vlad> instead I ended up embedding the hwid and the ip in the 'name' that's broadcast
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# [20:51] <vlad> so it'll still work, it'll just be a tiny bit hacky
# [20:52] <gfritzsche> gfritzsche: oh, i see... well, if it's possible to enable this on the test-machines i'd say yes. with this being such a special case i don't know how soon i can get to it.
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# [20:53] <ctalbert|mtg> vlad that's ok, that sounds like a measured improvement over requiring the static IPs though. :)
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# [20:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de0930a5e8ee - Steve Fink - Bug 770253 - Various compilation fixes for different --enable options. r=terrence
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# [20:54] <vlad> ctalbert|mtg: yeah; I was going to write up a script using pyzeroconf to do the client-side stuff -- I assume a python module is good for this?
# [20:54] <vlad> probably something that can go into mozdevice too
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# [20:54] <vlad> like where you can pass a hwid to devicemanager and it'll try to find it
# [20:54] <ctalbert|mtg> yep, something that can go in mozdevice would be perfect
# [20:55] <@ted> vlad: neat
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# [20:55] <vlad> hmm, it can probably look for it either using SUT, or if it can't find it, check if it's connected via ADB!
# [20:55] <ctalbert|mtg> ooh now you're talking.
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# [20:57] <alexdmt> hi there, I'm trying to understand how the <fieldset> html tag is rendered and I am wondering where I can find how the <div> tag is handled (layout, css style). Anyone could help me ?
# [20:57] <vlad> ctalbert|mtg: hrm, in SUTAgentAndroid, where does HardwareID come from?
# [20:57] <vlad> it should come from android.os.Build.SERIAL if it's the same hwid that adb uses, but it looks like it's queried from the server or something?
# [20:57] <dholbert> alexdmt, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/html.css#95 makes div render as a block
# [20:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f917cdb9b3ea - Gregory Szorc - Bug 781498 - Conditionally install TESTING_JS_MODULES; r=glandium
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# [20:58] <dholbert> alexdmt, which is implemented (kind of complicated-ly) in https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/generic/nsBlockFrame.cpp
# [20:58] <dholbert> alexdmt, (if you set "display: inline" on a div, then it will render as something else, of course)
# [20:58] <joe> jlebar|away is so mean
# [20:58] <joe> > if you're not using the |a| prefix universally, you don't get to use it to avoid a name collision.
# [20:58] <joe> :(
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# [20:58] <alexdmt> dholbert: thank you a lot :)
# [20:58] <dholbert> alexdmt, see also the corresponding .h file
# [20:59] <dholbert> alexdmt, no problem! and https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/nsHTMLFieldSetElement.cpp (and .h) is for <fieldset>
# [20:59] <ctalbert|mtg> vlad I'm not exactly where that hardware ID comes from. It should come from android.os.Build.SERIAL if it doesn't, so I'd be open to changing that.
# [20:59] <alexdmt> exactly what I am looking for
# [20:59] <dholbert> alexdmt, that's a question for you, really :)
# [21:00] <vlad> SERIAL is only available on API Level 9, but I think we generally target devices higher than that, right?
# [21:00] <vlad> (9 is gingerbread)
# [21:00] <dholbert> alexdmt, but yeah, I wouldn't expect someone coming in to those files for the first time to know what's going on. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Overview#Layout will help a bit. (about frames / the frame tree / reflow )
# [21:00] <alexdmt> I already found the nsHTMLFieldSetElement.{cpp,h}
# [21:00] <alexdmt> yeap
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# [21:01] <alexdmt> I already worked on some bugs regarding layout
# [21:01] <dholbert> alexdmt, ah, ok
# [21:01] <dholbert> alexdmt, what are you trying to do at the moment?
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# [21:01] <alexdmt> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727164 -> looking if I understand how to fix it :)
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# [21:02] <alexdmt> but I'm quite unfamiliar with css file syntax (though it's not complicated I guess)
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# [21:03] <gaston> ehsan: thx for the support in the pruint64/openbsd issue :)
# [21:04] <@ehsan> gaston: np
# [21:04] <gaston> highly appreciated
# [21:04] <@ehsan> gaston: note that I really don't think the nspr folks will change anything
# [21:04] <@ehsan> gaston: I have had fights like this in the past and I have never seen sanity come out of them
# [21:04] <gaston> i doubt so too :)
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# [21:08] <@ehsan> bhearsum: ping
# [21:09] <armenzg> has any of you seen mochitest jobs fail with "ERROR: Logon failure: unknown user name or bad password." https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786869#c17
# [21:09] <armenzg> I'm having trouble figure what the root cause is
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# [21:11] <@ehsan> NeilAway: yes
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# [21:13] <@ehsan> bhearsum: nevermind, I could reproduce
# [21:13] <bhearsum> k
# [21:13] <bhearsum> ehsan: does that mean cbeard can stand down for now?
# [21:13] <@ehsan> bhearsum: yes
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# [21:46] <gps> ehsan, et al: what's the minimum GCC we require on any platform?
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# [21:48] <Waldo> gps: 4.2 in theory, but we have some tinderboxen which build with 4.1, maybe 4.0
# [21:49] <Waldo> gps: well, they don't *build* with it, but they use it for things like l10n repacking and other inanities
# [21:49] <gps> are you sure about that? we broke GCC 4.2 on OS X
# [21:50] <Waldo> gps: yes, bug 721837
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# [21:51] <espindola> how should I star things like
# [21:51] <espindola> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15107726&tree=Firefox&full=1
# [21:51] <espindola> ?
# [21:52] <edmorley|away> espindola: 681861
# [21:52] <espindola> thanks
# [21:52] <edmorley|away> np
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# [21:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a99982afb20a - Andrew McCreight - Bug 775868, part 2: add checks to DomWinUtils methods. r=smaug
# [21:57] <espindola> and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15107711&tree=Firefox&full=1#error0 is bug 766118?
# [21:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6276b65b64f1 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 775868 - fix more tests. r=bholley
# [21:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f43436067cb - Andrew McCreight - Bug 775868 - add checks to fullscreen methods. r=jlebar
# [21:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bca1869f7ac - Andrew McCreight - Bug 775868, part 1: make tests access DomWinUtils via SpecialPowers. r=smaug
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# [22:00] <vlad> ctalbert|mtg: do you know if API version 9 is OK?
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# [22:00] <vlad> or do we need to support earlier than that too?
# [22:00] <espindola> Can we remove the notes about powerpc from
# [22:00] <espindola> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites
# [22:00] <espindola> ?
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# [22:02] <gps> espindola: I believe so
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# [22:02] <espindola> gps, will do, thanks
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# [22:02] <jhammel> BUT BUT PowerPC!!! ;)
# [22:02] <firebot> Check-in:
# [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf39151876dc - Justin Lebar - Bug 788546 - In our stack-walking code, instead of asserting that we're initialized and failing if we're not, go ahead and initialize ourself when necessary. r=espindola
# [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af9abc3c3776 - Chris Peterson - Bug 785536 - Add PluginHost->GetPref() so platform decoders can query about:config prefs. r=doublec
# [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/423607b0117d - Chris Peterson - Bug 789643 - Fix `GetCOMPtrCount() defined but not used` warning. r=bsmedberg
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# [22:04] <ctalbert|mtg> vlad, let me check what the tegras are on. I can't remember if they are 2.2 or 2.3
# [22:04] <vlad> ctalbert|mtg: I'm just adding fallbacks anyway
# [22:04] <vlad> fallback to telephony manager ID, then falling back to wifi hwid
# [22:04] <ctalbert|mtg> ok that should be good then
# [22:04] <ctalbert|mtg> and the tegras won't use this code anyway so it shouldn't matter
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# [22:06] <gaston> jhammel: powerpc is still fine, even without macosx!
# [22:06] <@ehsan> gps: anything which relies on lower than 4.4 is broken and must be fixed
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# [22:07] <gaston> hey, even _i_ switched my builders to clang/gcc4.6! :)
# [22:07] <gps> ehsan: it sounds like configure should enforce GCC >= 4.4
# [22:07] <gps> what about Clang? >= 3.1?
# [22:08] <espindola> gps, I am testing which versions at least build and start firefox
# [22:08] <dholbert> tanvi / ctalbert|mtg, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/image/test/mochitest/imgutils.js#7 may be what you're looking for (at least to clear image cache)
# [22:08] <espindola> so far the one in xcode 4.4 and trunk are known to work
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# [22:08] <gps> espindola: do you want to take bug 788276?
# [22:08] <@ehsan> gps: you need to ask espindola about clang
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# [22:09] <gps> also, if we no longer support GCC on OS X, there's plenty of cruft in configure that can be removed
# [22:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d12d201dce0 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 789936 - Cache reduction telemetry now ignores doom list check due to an unrelated bug with it. r=michal
# [22:09] <espindola> gps, I can do it, yes
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# [22:11] <philor> crashtests use the same manifest parser as reftests, right?
# [22:11] <dholbert> philor, correct, IIRC
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# [22:11] <philor> sweet, I know how that one works
# [22:11] <tanvi> dholbert - thanks! will see if i can write something equivalent for media
# [22:12] <tanvi> funny that my image tests works fine without explicitly clearing the cache, but the video tag doesn't
# [22:13] <padenot> tanvi: you can also bypass the cache easilty by appending ?randomestring to the url
# [22:13] <padenot> easily*
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# [22:13] <padenot> where randomstring is a random string
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# [22:13] <dholbert> padenot++
# [22:14] <dholbert> sneaky
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# [22:14] <padenot> saved me countless hours when working on the media code
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# [22:16] <tanvi> padenot - yeah i could do that. where each run of the test would have a random number after it.
# [22:16] <padenot> exactly
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# [22:17] <ctalbert|mtg> tanvi: yeah or this pref will also control it I believe, if I am reading this test correctly:
# [22:17] <ctalbert|mtg> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/indexedDB/test/test_bfcache.html?force=1#35
# [22:17] <tanvi> i think i'm going to go another route, and use an sjs file to serve the video with an no-cache header. instead of using a video that is already in the mochitest suite (i'm using http://mochi.test:8888/tests/content/media/test/320x240.ogv)
# [22:17] <ctalbert|mtg> tanvi: I've also seen that done in mochitests all over
# [22:17] <espindola> Can I delete the "On trees prior to 2009-12-16 on Mac OS X 10.6" chunk in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites
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# [22:18] <espindola> and update the following one to say "clang" instead of gcc-4.2?
# [22:19] <gps> espindola: I would assume so
# [22:19] <espindola> both mozconfigs look identical other than the --target...
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# [22:19] <espindola> thanks
# [22:19] <gps> as far as I'm concerned, the pages are versioned. if people need to reference old build docs (fat chance) they can look at the page history
# [22:19] <tanvi> hmm… so i can append a random string, use the sjs to serve the media, set a pref, or write a clearcache function that uses nsICacheServices.
# [22:20] <gps> also, this is why I like versioning docs alongside code
# [22:20] <tanvi> *debating which option would be best*
# [22:20] <espindola> gps, I agree, it is just he first time I am editing mdn, so I am not sure what should be there...
# [22:20] <espindola> gps, I would love to see more stuff move to m-c :-)
# [22:21] <jhammel> likewise
# [22:21] <gps> espindola: use your judgement about docs. if you think the build docs are wrong, they probably are
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# [22:27] <GPHemsley> Why am I suddenly getting a "Blocked by Content Security Policy" error message on pages that never had such a problem before? (They use frames.)
# [22:27] <@smaug> tanvi: ^
# [22:28] <GPHemsley> Bug 779918, perhaps?
# [22:28] <GPHemsley> (but then again, I'm not using HTTP authentication here)
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# [22:30] <tanvi> weird. what page are you on? they may have implemented a Content Security Policy recently.
# [22:30] <GPHemsley> tanvi: I'm using phpMyAdmin locally ;)
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# [22:31] <GPHemsley> The only thing I can think of is the fact that it uses jQuery, but I don't see any non-local calls
# [22:32] <GPHemsley> And it's only a problem when I view the pages in frames (all 3 frames have the problem); if I view them individually, there's no problem
# [22:32] <tanvi> have you set a CSP header? what does it say?
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# [22:32] <philor> locally as in from file://?
# [22:32] <tanvi> you may have set frame-ancestors or set an X-Frame-Options header?
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# [22:33] <GPHemsley> tanvi: I haven't set any headers
# [22:33] <tanvi> ah
# [22:33] <GPHemsley> philor: No, as in http://localhost/
# [22:33] <espindola> gps, ok, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites could use some extra refactoring, but at least it is now current on the clang transition
# [22:33] <tanvi> what does the error message say?
# [22:33] <philor> oh, yeah, guess php from file: wouldn't go all that well
# [22:33] <GPHemsley> tanvi: Could it be because they have a call to phpmyadmin.net JS to check versions?
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# [22:33] <espindola> gps, for bug 787931, would it be sufficient to refer to that url in the configure error?
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# [22:34] <tanvi> if you haven't set a csp, you should be able to make third party javascript calls
# [22:34] <gps> espindola: it's better than it was. I'm hoping that once one-line bootstrap scripts land we can delete large parts of the build docs and replace with "run this command"
# [22:34] <GPHemsley> tanvi: There server is sending a Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * response
# [22:34] <gps> espindola: yes, that is the page you should point to
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# [22:35] <espindola> ok, thanks. Will upload a patch
# [22:35] <tanvi> which means they are allowing your request
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# [22:35] <tanvi> so i'm not sure why you are getting the errors
# [22:36] <GPHemsley> tanvi: Ah, the error is this: [16:25:37.593] CSP WARN: Directive frame-ancestors http://localhost:80 violated by http://localhost/phpMyAdmin/
# [22:36] <tanvi> you are allowed to make the request (no csp enforcements) they are allowed to respond to your request (allow origin *)
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# [22:36] <GPHemsley> Maybe it's a problem on my side after all
# [22:36] <tanvi> so you do have a csp set
# [22:36] <GPHemsley> but I haven't changed anything
# [22:36] <tanvi> are you using a browser plugin like userCSP?
# [22:37] <GPHemsley> tanvi: My server seems to be sending X-WebKit-CSP: allow 'self' http://www.phpmyadmin.net; options inline-script eval-script
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# [22:37] <GPHemsley> not sure what that means
# [22:37] <GPHemsley> tanvi: But no, no addons like that
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# [22:38] <GPHemsley> lemme check to see if it's a bug in PMA
# [22:38] <tanvi> it means that you are setting a content security policy for Crhome. where your default-src is 'self' and phpmyadmin.net. and you are allowed inline scripts and eval
# [22:38] <ericp_> In Cocoa, how do I add an NSView-derived object to a NPAPI plugin surface?
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# [22:39] <tanvi> x-webkit-csp is chrome specific. firefox uses x-content-security-policy. when we both standardize and are CSP 1.0 compliant, we will both be using the header Content-Security-Policy.
# [22:40] <GPHemsley> tanvi: Well, I'm using Aurora 17, and I didn't actively change any server settings, so I'm guessing it's a problem with PMA
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# [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69bdd87c6c91 - John Schoenick - Bug 786650 - Abort load of channel-having plugins without frames at the appropriate point (second attempt). r=josh
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# [22:43] <GPHemsley> tanvi: Then again, it's not a problem I've had before, so it's gotta be a result of a change in Aurora.
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# [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f24b5819c22 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 789422 - Part 2: Ensure that the update.status directory exists before attempting to write to it; r=rstrong
# [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7e36dada4ff - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 789422 - Part 1: Remove UpdateStatusText because it does the exact same thing as UpdateStatusFile(const char*); r=rstrong
# [22:44] <GPHemsley> tanvi: Oh, it's also sending x-content-security-policy:allow 'self'; options inline-script eval-script; frame-ancestors 'self'; img-src 'self' data:; script-src 'self' http://www.phpmyadmin.net
# [22:44] <GPHemsley> missed that before
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# [22:44] <tanvi> frame-ancestors is the issue
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# [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fc32318f8a8b - Gregory Szorc - Backout 8d9c80e2f95b (bug 786520) for breaking l10n nightlies (bug 789838)
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# [22:46] <tanvi> *trying to find documentation for frame-ancestors. it works like x-frame-options, where you are stelling the browser which sites can frame you*
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# [22:48] <nmatsakis> if I accidentally ran qfinish, how can I get back to my previous state?
# [22:48] <nmatsakis> that is, with a patch and with the top-most commit being the remote one?
# [22:49] <tanvi> GPHemsley: frame-ancestors:
# [22:49] <tanvi> The frame-ancestors section specifies sources that may embed your site using the {{ HTMLElement("frame") }} and {{ HTMLElement("iframe") }} elements. All sites within the frame chain must be in your frame-ancestors list in order to embed your site in a frame. If any site in the frame chain isn't in your whitelist, the load is not allowed.
# [22:49] <tanvi> <pIn other words, if foo.com embeds bar.com in a frame, which then embeds your site in an {{ HTMLElement("iframe") }}, your site's CSP must include both foo.com and bar.com in its frame-ancestors list.
# [22:49] <philor> nmatsakis: if you just qfinished one thing, hg qimport -r tip
# [22:49] <nmatsakis> philor: will that also update my head?
# [22:49] <nmatsakis> or tip
# [22:49] <Waldo> if you finished more, then hg qimport -rfirst-rev-finished:tip
# [22:49] <nmatsakis> or whatever it's called
# [22:49] <nmatsakis> ok, it's just 1
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# [22:50] <nmatsakis> thanks
# [22:50] <@dbaron> and then maybe hg qrename to get back to the old patch name
# [22:51] <GPHemsley> tanvi: So what's the problem, and how do I fix it? Is there something I can do to the X-Content-Security-Policy header?
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# [22:51] <tanvi> yeah, change frameancestors to include the page that you are using to frame the 3 other frames
# [22:51] <gps> ls //win 29
# [22:52] <tanvi> or put frameancestors *
# [22:52] <GPHemsley> tanvi: Well, what does 'self' do?
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# [22:52] <tanvi> it allows the sameorigin to iframe you
# [22:52] <nmatsakis> so, after `qimport -r tip`, I seem to have the same change both as an mq patch AND as a commit
# [22:53] <tanvi> or you can remove the frameancestors directive completely (which is equivalent to setting it to * i believe)
# [22:54] <GPHemsley> ok, that works, thanks
# [22:54] <tanvi> :)
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# [22:54] <GPHemsley> tanvi: But I can't imagine I'll be the only one to have this problem... have we established whether it's a problem with PMA or with Aurora?
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# [22:56] <jlebar> How do I get debugging symbols for a nightly on Linux? Given that the alternative is stepping through unannotated assembly code, I would very much like some symbols...
# [22:57] <nthomas> ted has a script that pulls symbols from crash-stats
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# [22:57] <@ehsan> mak: ping
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# [22:57] <mak> ehsan: hi, review ping?
# [22:57] <jlebar> nthomas, Oh, this thing https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_the_Mozilla_symbol_server
# [22:57] <@ehsan> mak: yep :)
# [22:57] <jlebar> nthomas, Okay!
# [22:57] * jlebar tries
# [22:58] <mak> ehsan: ook, got it
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# [22:58] <@ehsan> mak: thanks... just as a context, this is sort of an 18 blocker, and I really would like to land it asap..
# [22:58] <nthomas> jlebar: yeah, the 'Downloading symbols on Linux / Mac OS X' section
# [22:58] <mak> ehsan: will make it p1, thanks for pointing that out
# [22:58] <@ehsan> mak: thank you!
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# [23:00] <jlebar> HTTP error 404 retrieving http://symbols.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-18.0a1-Linux-20120910030524-linux64-symbols.txt
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# [23:00] <jlebar> nthomas, ted, ^ :(
# [23:00] <nthomas> sure you have a nightly ?
# [23:00] <nthomas> dep builds don't get uploaded there
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# [23:00] <@ehsan> firebot: uuid
# [23:00] <firebot> 424b7efc-5d56-4717-9a71-8db9dcaaa618 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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# [23:01] <jlebar> nthomas, I /think/ this is a nightly!
# [23:01] <nthomas> jlebar: what is app.update.channel set to ?
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# [23:01] <jlebar> nthomas, "nightly"
# [23:01] <nthomas> hmm, ok. I'll dig a bit
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# [23:02] <jlebar> nthomas, Okay. I really appreciate it; I hope this bug doesn't go away in the meantime!
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# [23:03] <nthomas> jlebar: the file naming changed a few months ago, the correct url is http://symbols.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-18.0a1-Linux-20120910030524-x86_64-linux64-symbols.txt
# [23:03] <jlebar> nthomas, I'll update the script, then.
# [23:03] <jlebar> nthomas, Thanks.
# [23:03] <nthomas> np
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# [23:04] <nthomas> fwiw, linux32 looks like firefox-18.0a1-Linux-20120909030609-x86-symbols.txt now
# [23:04] <nthomas> mac is firefox-18.0a1-Darwin-20120908030556-x86-macosx64-symbols.txt
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# [23:07] <@ted> :-/
# [23:07] <@ted> at our ad-hoc scheme
# [23:07] <@ted> jlebar: feel free to just patch the script from my user repo
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# [23:07] <jlebar> ted, I will, but the repo linked on the wiki is http://hg.mozilla.org/users/jwatt_jwatt.org/fetch-symbols ?
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# [23:10] <jlebar> Hooray, i has symbols. Thanks, guys.
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# [23:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9a0b706c41d6 - Ben Hearsum - bug 789373: use the new --disable-ion flag for specific b2g-related builds. r=aki
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# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec2b20c68ba2 - Devdatta Akhawe - Bug 787738 - Telemetry for Geolocation Prompt UI (r=felipe)
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# [23:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4147ad8c7ab0 - Devdatta Akhawe - Bug 774395 - Measure prevalence of SSL MITM errors for updates (r=bbondy)
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# [23:32] <RyanVM> oh my, what is this world coming to. 3 checkin-needed patches and each has a link to a green Try run!
# [23:32] <RyanVM> *sniff* It's just so beautiful
# [23:33] <imelven> like a double or maybe even triple rainbow
# [23:33] <jlebar> joe, ping
# [23:33] <joe> jlebar: hi
# [23:33] <jlebar> joe, Hey, so I have this bug in a debugger. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744309
# [23:33] <jlebar> joe, I see this so rarely, I don't want to lose it this time.
# [23:34] <joe> ooh
# [23:34] <jlebar> joe, But I'm not entirely clear what's going on.
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# [23:34] <jlebar> joe, The pattern I see is four calls to RasterImage::RequestDecode() for one image, all in a row.
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# [23:34] <joe> hm
# [23:34] <jlebar> joe, Then we move on to the next image, and eventually cycle back.
# [23:34] <joe> from where?
# [23:35] <jlebar> joe, sec, let me get you all four stack traces.
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# [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74d24d902ad6 - David Keeler - Bug 789620 - a plugin that gets unblocklisted should go back to normal. r=bmcbride
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# [23:39] <RyanVM> gps: ping
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# [23:41] <jlebar> joe, Okay. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1814677
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# [23:42] <jlebar> joe, Okay.
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# [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/442e4532d2c7 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 786504 - Add a simple script to compare test runs in two revisions. r=jhammel.
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