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# Session Start: Wed Sep 12 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <@dolske> does that sound like some kind of known problem on OS X Try?
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# [00:00] <@dolske> (xpcshell tests, to be specific)
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# [00:00] <Standard8> hmm
# [00:00] <Standard8> I saw something like that recently
# [00:01] <Standard8> not sure where, but definitely saw it
# [00:01] <@dolske> kk
# [00:01] <@dolske> Pretty sure it's not me (and it's debug-only too).
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# [00:01] <edmorley|away> dolske: are there errors deleting files higher up?
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# [00:03] <@dolske> edmorley|away: hmm, nothing obvious.
# [00:03] <@dolske> I'm looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d09812c73407 fwiw
# [00:04] <@dolske> well, unless you mean the python goop immediately preceeding it
# [00:04] <edmorley|away> dolske: ah bug 752243
# [00:05] <@dolske> cool, thanks. :)
# [00:05] <mjrosenb> dolske: out of curiosity, you now how the popcorn I left is doing?
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# [00:05] <@dolske> mjrosenb: popcorn?
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# [00:05] <@dolske> oh
# [00:05] <edmorley|away> dolske: np :-)
# [00:06] <@dolske> the bulk unpopped popcorn you were talking about?
# [00:06] <mjrosenb> dolske: yeah.
# [00:06] <@dolske> no idea!
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# [00:06] <@dolske> I can verify that the office is not filled with an unusual volume of popped popcorn, however.
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# [00:09] <qDot> "Kent..."
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# [00:15] <catlee-mtg> karl: ping
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# [00:15] <karl> catlee: hi
# [00:15] <catlee> hey
# [00:16] <catlee> I'm looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772446#c48
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# [00:16] <catlee> karl: do you want to hop on the machine to check it out?
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# [00:17] <firebot> Check-in:
# [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e78c3efd115 - Donovan Preston - Bug 788960 - Intermittent test_tcpsocket.js | command timed out: 1200 seconds without output, attempting to kill. timeout code to show error to help debugging.
# [00:17] <firebot> r=fabrice
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# [00:17] <karl> catlee: yes, i've just got to attend to a serviceman who has arrived
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# [00:19] <firebot> Check-in:
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# [00:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8361bd47b3fe - Nicolas Silva - Bug 774622 - Fixes fennec exit crash by reference counting the compositor thread and making sure the CompositorParents are not destroyed while running code on the
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# [00:19] <firebot> compositor thread. r=cjones
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# [00:25] <@dolske> qDot++
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# [00:29] <karl> catlee: if you can check gdb and valgrind, that would be helpful; send me login details and i can look; do these machines have displays set up for vnc access?
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# [00:29] <catlee> karl: do you have acces to the build network?
# [00:29] <karl> catlee: no
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# [00:29] <karl> catlee: not that i know of, anyway
# [00:29] <catlee> ok, we'll have to fix that up
# [00:30] <catlee> they're running in an Xvfb display
# [00:30] <karl> ok, good to know thanks
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# [00:31] <firebot> Check-in:
# [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a1a98daab06 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 788836 - Simplify @-keyword parsing by letting ParseAtKeyword deal with everthing after the @. Make it pass the first char to GatherIdent so that it returns false
# [00:31] <firebot> for a bad escape sequence at the start. r=dbaron
# [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c14834c3ce2d - Mats Palmgren - Bug 789824 - Apply min-/max-height constraints on -moz-box containers correctly. r=bz
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# [00:33] * @bz writes ugly code
# [00:33] <@bz> harness.ok(results[0].members[0].signatures()[0][1][0].clamp,
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# [00:37] <@ehsan> wchen: nsHTMLDocument::EditingStateChanged
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# [01:28] <sid0> boy I wish C didn't silently coerce integers to enums
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# [01:30] <biesi> sid0, C++ ftw
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# [01:34] <sid0> NeilAway: indeed
# [01:35] <sid0> NeilAway: though EnumType foo = 0 is as annoying
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# [01:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/45d2eeca9b46 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 789422 - Part 3: Update the unit tests to test for the new behavior; r=rstrong a=akeybl
# [01:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bdf8bdfe315e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 789422 - Part 1: Remove UpdateStatusText because it does the exact same thing as UpdateStatusFile(const char*); r=rstrong a=akeybl
# [01:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/05375a12ab05 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 789422 - Part 2: Ensure that the update.status directory exists before attempting to write to it; r=rstrong a=akeybl
# [01:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac75030f29a7 - kmm - Bug 774112 - Part 2: Implement bootstrap support for popular Linux distros; r=gps
# [01:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/544c405fb456 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 774112 - Part 1: Skeleton for one-line system bootstrapping; r=jhammel
# [01:42] <gps> time to rewrite the Linux build docs \o/
# [01:45] <BenWa> How long do we keep around MDN document discussing old versions quirks (3.5)
# [01:45] <BenWa> and/or warning/notes
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# [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58338ee54795 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 774112 - Part 2b: Add missing files to download manifest; r=me
# [01:54] <BenWa> Is there no way to request local storage of more then 5MB?
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# [02:03] <@dolske> BenWa: I'd think 3.5 notes can go. sheppy would be the definitive word.
# [02:04] <BenWa> I would think so as well. They are in our storage doc which should really say a word about capacity
# [02:04] <decoder> espindola: ping
# [02:04] <sid0> BenWa: hm, for build stuff we've tended to archive old info rather than delete it
# [02:04] <BenWa> This is web dev MDN docs
# [02:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38311ad62c1d - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 544773 part.1 TSF module should log its behavior r=jimm
# [02:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f082e741d78c - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 544773 part.2 Move old helper methods in nsTextStore.cpp to the chunk for new helper methods r=jimm
# [02:05] <BenWa> Build docs are useful since we sometimes have to compile old versions
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# [02:22] <jcranmer> apparently I'm not the only person who's had the idea of cat'ing a base64-implemented tarball: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6716#appendix-A
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# [02:33] <reuben> RyanVM: the patch you just landed for me is burning on inbound, with an undefined symbol compilation error… why did it build & pass succesfully on try? :|
# [02:33] <RyanVM> reuben: you tell me :P
# [02:33] <RyanVM> is the Try push exactly what I pushed?
# [02:33] <reuben> yep
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# [02:36] <reuben> RyanVM: except I didn't run opt builds on try
# [02:37] <RyanVM> reuben: I see...
# [02:37] <RyanVM> backing you out in that case
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# [02:37] <reuben> ok :|
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# [02:45] <reuben> wait, do we build with the 10.6 SDK on OS X?
# [02:46] <nthomas> quite possible we still target that
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# [02:50] <nthomas> that seems like a bug
# [02:50] <nthomas> presumably that's because debug is not universal, while opt is so build/macosx/universal/mozconfig.common is used
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# [02:53] <reuben> thanks for the help
# [02:53] <daleharvey> I just want to check, using an index on an object store in indexeddb wont affect the number of items within a keyrange right?
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# [04:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ea76b834394 - Jan Beich - Bug 789817 - Fix BeingDebugged() in IPC on NetBSD/OpenBSD. r=cjones
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# [04:38] <@dolske> yeah, ed pointed me there too.
# [04:39] <philor> oh, I can't read scrollback
# [04:39] <philor> or rather, I can, but I can't tell the difference between "when I was going back to work from lunch" and "when I was driving home from work"
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# [04:54] <KWierso|Home> before now, but after then?
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# [04:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ba9fa0f8194 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 790018 - bump version of manifestdestiny and mirror to m-c;r=mcote
# [04:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9e96444da92 - Mark Hammond - Bug 788405 - variables created via importScripts should be globals. r=gavin
# [04:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/092a8add22fd - Mark Hammond - Bug 787511 - rename SocialProvider._getWorkerPort to getWorkerPort, remove SocialProvider.port. r=jaws
# [04:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df2ddcab7143 - Mark Hammond - Bug 788100 - Remove social.initialize-response message. r=jaws
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# [05:18] <daleharvey> so not sure if I am seeing a firefox bug here
# [05:18] <daleharvey> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/issues
# [05:18] <daleharvey> if you see the bottom right, theres junk in the paging links (on 15.0.1)
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# [05:21] <kanru> what should I do after get a approval-mozilla-aurora+ ?
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# [05:23] <jwir3|away> kanru: Push to aurora
# [05:23] <Callek> kanru: if you have the permission to land it, push to aurora
# [05:23] <Callek> s/permission/LDAP perms required/
# [05:23] <Callek> kanru: if you don't set checkin-needed
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# [05:24] <jwir3|away> what Callek said. ;)
# [05:24] <kanru> ha, thanks
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# [05:24] <markh> inbound is showing osx 10.7 opt as burning on my recent push - is that "for real"? The log looks like it should maybe be purple instead of red?
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# [05:24] <Callek> kanru: note that pushing to aurora is different than pushing to inbound, in that you are expected to watch your push complete and backout if necessary
# [05:25] <Callek> as well as identify any orange caused by your push (and attempt to star orange not caused by your push)
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# [05:26] <Callek> markh: let me take a peek and try to decipher for you, but if one of our perma-sheriffs are around tehy'll be faster than me
# [05:27] <Callek> markh: ok thats a real error, but I'm tempted to think its not your fault: |/builds/slave/m-in-osx64/build/build/macosx/universal/unify: copyIfIdentical: files differ:
# [05:27] <Callek> obj-firefox/i386/dist/test-package-stage/mozbase/manifestdestiny/manifestparser/manifestparser.pyc,
# [05:27] <Callek> obj-firefox/x86_64/dist/test-package-stage/mozbase/manifestdestiny/manifestparser/manifestparser.pyc|
# [05:27] <Callek> its the packaging code trying to package .pyc
# [05:27] <markh> yeah
# [05:27] <philor> bug 789623
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# [05:28] <Callek> yep, just starred/retriggered
# [05:28] <markh> philor, Callek: awesome, thx - I can go eat lunch now then :)
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# [05:29] <Callek> hey whatdya know, patch has r+
# [05:29] <Callek> who wants to land it
# [05:29] <Callek> :-)
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# [05:44] <philor> oh, good, markh went to lunch, he won't have to watch me backing him out
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# [05:47] <philor> not so good, jhammel maybe made that packaging failure not so intermittent
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# [05:54] <markh> bugger
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# [06:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c710e778c97 - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 789623 - Skip packaging pyc tests in test package, r=glandium, CLOSED TREE
# [06:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f496fceb64ad - Phil Ringnalda - Back out df2ddcab7143 (bug 788100), d9e96444da92 (bug 788405), 092a8add22fd (bug 787511) for xpcshell bustage
# [06:03] <philor> heh, nice that the closed tree hook suggests you look at https://treestatus.mozilla.org/mozilla-inbound?format=json to find out about the closure
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# [06:03] <philor> or maybe that's "don't blame me, I just got it from ..."
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# [06:05] <bsmith> What's the recommended way to simulate an iinfallable malloc failure (e.g. I call a C function to allocate memory, which fails; after I get the NULL result from that function, I want to abort in the same way as operator new does)
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# [06:07] <kk1fff> jlebar, ping
# [06:07] <jlebar> kk1fff, hey
# [06:08] <jlebar> bsmith, see memory/mozalloc/mozalloc.cpp
# [06:08] <bsmith> thank you
# [06:09] <kk1fff> jlebar, hi, for 787519, I think we can add a flag like _isFrameLoaderCrashed to BEP, and check this flag in _isAlive()
# [06:09] <kk1fff> jlebar, but it would make getScreenshot return null if child is crash.
# [06:09] <jlebar> kk1fff, Well, that's not quite right. :)
# [06:10] <jlebar> kk1fff, Also, I bet if we crash, then remove the iframe from the DOM, then re-add it to the DOM, the frame might work again.
# [06:10] <jlebar> kk1fff, But it sounds like you have the correct general idea.
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# [06:12] <kk1fff> jlebar, Is the process forked when frame added to the DOM?
# [06:13] <jlebar> kk1fff, It's a long, convoluted process, but basically, yes. As you discovered in an earlier bug, we don't have a frameLoader when we're not in the DOM. And no frameLoader means there's nothing inside the frame, and for OOP content, it means there's no content process associated with the frame.
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# [06:13] <jlebar> kk1fff, Anyway, I'm not /sure/ that would fix a crashed frame, but it might.
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# [06:23] <kk1fff> jlebar, looks like a better way to fix 787519 is to make messagemanager throwing an exception when BEP attempts to send async message after child process is crashed.
# [06:23] <jlebar> kk1fff, That sounds like a good approach to me!
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# [06:25] <kk1fff> jlebar, think I can try to fix this, I will start on nsFrameMessageManager.cpp, the file that throw the NS_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED.
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# [06:29] <jlebar> kk1fff, Okay! I'm not quite sure where you'd need to modify, but I can help look if you get stuck. smaug can also help, and he's in Europe, which is an easier timezone for you. Although he keeps weird hours, so he's more like mid-atlantic. :)
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# [06:37] <philor> oh yeah, I'm pull IM, that's why the world seems like it's in slow motion
# [06:37] * philor clears that crumb out from under his ing key
# [06:38] <Callek> 4531 files updated, 0 files merged, 1 files removed, 0 files unresolved
# [06:38] <Callek> yep that'd be IM
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# [06:39] <Callek> but guess good commit messages gets in the way of "get 'er done"
# [06:40] <philor> you'll probably want to explain to every single other project branch that they should be doing good commit messages
# [06:40] <Callek> philor: only the ones that expect to merge to m-c
# [06:40] <Callek> :-)
# [06:41] <philor> because a total of zero of them have gotten that message
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# [06:44] <philor> how about we skip over the a;r step on them, and go straight to a?
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# [06:49] <jcranmer> bsmith: have you tried infallably allocating SIZE_MAX bytes?
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# [06:52] <bsmith> jcranmer jlebar: thanks for the suggestions. I am surprised it is more tedious than I was expecting because we have to handle the case where the abort handler actually frees up memory
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# [06:55] <philor> hello, reftest-4!
# [06:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f240265df77 - L. David Baron - Add an additional reftest for bug 734569. No review.
# [06:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/557733e500ca - L. David Baron - Add more profile labels for the separate parts of restyle processing. (Bug 790379) rs=cjones
# [06:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5700bc77ea5 - Chris Jones - Bug 790183: Don't send SetCursor if the cursor hasn't changed. r=roc
# [06:59] * cjones will be amused if roc lands now, having been alerted that the tree is reopened
# [06:59] <@roc> land what?
# [07:00] <cjones> d baron's r=cjones patch notified me that the tree was reopened
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# [07:00] <cjones> i just landed an r=roc
# [07:00] <cjones> wanted to see how long the chain could go
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# [07:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85be098d321d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788957 (part 2) - Split ContextFlags into AnyContextFlags and FunctionContextFlags. r=benjamin.
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96fc70c99ed1 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788957 (part 4) - Add GlobalSharedContext, a sub-class of SharedContext, and also make FunctionBox a sub-class of SharedContext. r=benjamin.
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50c9565a5f3d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788957 (part 1) - Change FunctionBox so it has an ObjectBox rather than is an ObjectBox. r=benjamin.
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# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6d70984c0f6 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788957 (part 5) - Remove unused arguments from NoteLValue(). r=benjamin.
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# [07:11] <philor> I love how common it is for someone to comment on a bug about how horrible all the tbplbot spam is, so we disable the test, and then... and then... and then it's three years later, and the bug has seen no more action
# [07:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7faae8e1d2b - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 788957 (part 3) - Change SharedContext::inFunction() to SharedContext::isFunction. r=benjamin.
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# [07:20] <jcranmer|away> we should make a whine that yells at all developers every month about disabled tests
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# [07:31] <@dbaron> since I'd seen people accidentally disable half the tests in a directory
# [07:31] <@dbaron> since Make doesn't honor the \ at the end of a #-commented line
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# [07:39] <philor> how did releng even wind up owning the top level repo layout?
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# [07:40] <kbrosnan> they own the build scripts
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# [07:42] <KWierso|Home> we're changing it to mozilla-middle
# [07:45] <Unfocused> i was hoping for mozilla-twilight
# [07:46] <kbrosnan> need a bug for a server redirect bikeshed.mozilla.org -> hg.mozilla.org
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# [08:02] <KWierso|Home> kbrosnan: couldn't you just morph 786056?
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# [08:03] <kbrosnan> KWierso|Home: trollooloooo
# [08:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b4ad0fcea64 - Dave Hylands - Bug 788204 - Gecko doesn't detect MIME type of MP3 files. r=cpearce
# [08:03] <kbrosnan> Callek: make it happen :P
# [08:04] <Callek> :-P
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# [08:06] <JonathanS> Gecko can play mp3 in <audio> now?
# [08:06] <glob> anyone seeing problems in recent nightlies where it sometimes doesn't load css?
# [08:06] <KWierso|Home> glob: occasionally, but I've seen it occasionally for several months or more
# [08:06] <KWierso|Home> mostly when I restore a session
# [08:07] <JonathanS> glob, I seen it from appleinsider site like in 2 days ago
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# [08:07] <glob> i've had it happen on a few sites, just had it happen on bmo
# [08:07] <glob> had network monitor open, it didn't fail to load the css from the server, so it's something else
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# [08:08] <JonathanS> did it tell why it failed to load?
# [08:08] <glob> i've tried, and failed, to find an existing bug
# [08:08] <glob> JonathanS, it *didn't* fail to load
# [08:08] <glob> poor choice of words, sorry
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# [08:11] <glob> ah, it's also failing to process some javascript resources; so i suspect it's a cache related problem
# [08:11] <Unfocused> bug 783606 ?
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# [08:12] <KWierso|Home> sounds similar
# [08:12] <kbrosnan> JonathanS: on android
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# [08:18] <Callek> philor: hiding builders, sheriffpass is Tinderbox Pass or something entirely different?
# [08:18] <Callek> philor: and whats teh "Change Description" line for
# [08:18] <philor> same as always
# [08:19] <philor> for UI that isn't implemented, I favor descriptions like "Not yet ready for primetime"
# [08:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/de3f06a549de - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 16.0b3 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
# [08:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/05bf3382a7ea - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_16_0b3_RELEASE FIREFOX_16_0b3_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset de3f06a549de. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [08:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ed56c54f7959 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for fennec 16.0b3 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [08:24] <Callek> philor: beyond hiding on try/m-i (and m-c if theres a push there while I'm still up) anywhere else I should likely find a real job of it that I should hide, beyond a real e-mail to planning/tree-management?
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# [08:32] <qDot> If you return PL_DHASH_REMOVE from an iterator for PL_DHASH stuff, does that imply PLD_DHASH_NEXT?
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# [08:32] <qDot> i.e. remove current element and continue iterating?
# [08:32] <smontagu> qDot: yes
# [08:32] <philor> Callek: nope, it'll just be a nasty surprise for people tomorrow (where by "nasty surprise" I mean "another things starting with Android which will be completely ignored")
# [08:33] <qDot> smontagu: Thanks!
# [08:33] <Callek> philor: cool thanks
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# [08:34] <Callek> philor: how likely is tbpl to start to be able to hide pre-emptively :-)
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# [08:34] <kanru> ouch.. tbpl died?
# [08:34] <Callek> kanru: huh?
# [08:34] <philor> spectacularly unlikely
# [08:34] <kanru> oh, just no style
# [08:36] <KWierso|Home> kanru: I had that earlier after the ionmonkey landing and merging
# [08:36] <KWierso|Home> ctrl-refresh fixed it
# [08:37] <kanru> KWierso|Home: it works :D
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# [08:50] <philor> probably the simplest solution to the hiding problem would be to not run broken shit on every tree
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# [08:51] <philor> if we ran stuff on Try until it had been tried, and then ran it for realz after we could run it, most of the hiding problem would be solved
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# [09:05] <Callek> philor: thanks for hiding it on inbound
# [09:05] <philor> np
# [09:05] <Callek> s/it/armv6 ref3/
# [09:06] <philor> wonder why we run android tests on profiling, where we apparently don't care to see them
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# [09:06] <Callek> philor: if you find/file a bug on that thought you can CC me and I'll sort it out -- if "all android" is hidden there, I'd just as well turn it off ;-)
# [09:06] <Callek> unless they do use it for something
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# [09:07] <Callek> so if something hides them, then I missed that
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# [09:10] <Callek> s/all been hidden/r2 and r3 have been hidden
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# [09:51] <Callek> yea hgweb is st00pid
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# [09:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d50672b64b4 - Eric Chou - Bug 790136 - do cleanups before shutdown, r=qdot
# [09:56] <sicking> smaug: ping
# [09:56] <@smaug> sicking: pong
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# [09:56] <sicking> smaug: i'm not sure I understand your latest comment on the MutationObserver thread. The issue isn't someone wanting to access the mutation records sooner than the end of a microtask
# [09:57] <@smaug> I'm then missing something
# [09:58] <@smaug> if <script> is in document and we actually execute it, we sure should have notified about adding <script> to document
# [09:58] <@smaug> and if we have notified, there is mutation record
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# [09:59] <sicking> smaug: you mean gecko nsimutationobserver notifications?
# [09:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe96a330ddd8 - Mike Hommey - Bug 790261 - Avoid the profiler misbehaving randomly when mozilla_sampler_start is given impossible values. r=Benwa
# [09:59] <@smaug> sicking: our DOMMutationObserver
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# [10:00] <@smaug> (which just works on the data nsIMutationObserver gives to it)
# [10:00] <sicking> smaug: "we sure should have notified". Do you mean we should have notified nsimutationobserver observers, or MutationObserver observers?
# [10:01] <@smaug> oh, I mean Gecko's DOM "notify"
# [10:01] <@smaug> which ends up calling nsIMutationObserver
# [10:01] <sicking> smaug: ok. Indeed
# [10:01] <sicking> smaug: yes, there should (and are) mutation observer records
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# [10:02] <sicking> smaug: what I'm saying is that the use-case I'm trying to solve isn't "some mutation observer might want to do something before the end of a microtask". But rather "we should allow the web application to be in a consistent state when we start running the script"
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# [10:04] <sicking> smaug: what I'm saying is that the use-case I'm trying to solve isn't "some mutation observer might want to do something before the end of a microtask". But rather "we should allow the web application to be in a consistent state when we start running the script"
# [10:04] <sicking> smaug: actually, maybe it's easier if i ask another way
# [10:04] <@smaug> reading the log
# [10:04] <@smaug> yes. It can call takeRecords
# [10:06] <sicking> smaug: when we have two event listeners for the "click" event, why do we fire MutationObservers for records created by the first listener before the second listener is run?
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# [10:07] <@smaug> sicking: so you're asking about the run at the beginning or at the end of mt
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# [10:09] <sicking> smaug: from the webapps point of view, the records are flushed between the two event handlers, right? Not really noticable if it's before each mt or after each mt in this case. The question is, why do we flush them at all between the to mts?
# [10:09] <Callek> edmorley: remind me, whats the query param to show hidden job results?
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# [10:10] <@smaug> sicking: yeah...thinking...
# [10:11] <@smaug> The question is, why do we flush them at all between the to mts? ?
# [10:11] <@smaug> what you mean with that
# [10:11] <@smaug> we do want to flush between mts
# [10:11] <@smaug> the question is, kind of, whether it should happen after mt, or right before
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# [10:12] <sicking> "we do want to flush between mts"
# [10:13] <sicking> is that a statement or a question?
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# [10:13] <@smaug> statement
# [10:13] <sicking> ok, so if you think we should flush between the mts, my question is, why do you think so?
# [10:14] <@smaug> why would you have mt at all if you don't flush between them
# [10:14] <@smaug> that was the whole point for mts
# [10:14] <sicking> i agree, but I'm still asking the question
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# [10:14] <@smaug> that if mt A does something, it doesn't affect to B
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# [10:15] <@smaug> so, the question is, does the <script> execution belong to the same mt as the stuff that parser does right before it
# [10:16] <sicking> my argument is that they should be separate mts yes
# [10:16] <sicking> the reason we are flushing notifications between mts is that we want the app to be in a consistent state when a mt starts
# [10:16] <@smaug> that might be good
# [10:17] <sicking> i.e. we want app state to be in sync with DOM state
# [10:17] <@smaug> yeah
# [10:17] <sicking> that applies just as much to a <script>
# [10:17] <sicking> we want app state to be in sync with DOM state when the script starts
# [10:17] <@smaug> I think we could move notifying at the start of mt, as you suggested
# [10:17] <@smaug> still thinking if that affect to nested event loops somehow
# [10:17] <@smaug> affects
# [10:18] <sicking> no, i don't think we want to do that
# [10:18] <sicking> i just think we want the parser insertions to be a mt
# [10:18] <@smaug> oh, you changed your mind :)
# [10:18] <sicking> so that we flush once the parser exists, before we execute the <script>
# [10:18] <sicking> no, i never said anything about moving notifications to the beginning of mts
# [10:19] <@smaug> making parser insertions microtasks should be ok too
# [10:19] <edmorley> Callek: &noignore=1
# [10:19] <Callek> edmorley: thanks
# [10:19] <sicking> smaug: cool. Can you send an email to the list?
# [10:19] <@smaug> ok,
# [10:20] <@smaug> I will
# [10:20] <sicking> smaug: all i care about is that we have updated the notifications before we run the <script>. So that app state and DOM state is in sync
# [10:20] <@smaug> yup
# [10:20] <edmorley> Callek: np; not the most intuitive & we should add it to the UI (bug filed, just more involved than first appears due to the way currently implemented)
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# [10:20] <sicking> cool, thanks for listening :)
# [10:21] <Callek> edmorley: sure, I knew it just couldn't recall it
# [10:21] <Callek> edmorley: if you didn't see armv6 reftests are now running
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# [10:21] <Callek> edmorley: reftests2 and reftests3 have perma-orange right now, so any tree that has yet to run them they will have to be hidden on
# [10:22] <Callek> edmorley: which would be trunk and any project branch that has them :-)
# [10:22] <edmorley> cool :-)
# [10:24] <Callek> edmorley: p.s. I'm not sure if you think, as a sheriff you could provide any value to the thoughts/discussion later (10:15aPT) for the Mobile Testing meeting, but I plan to bring up teh Reftest on-new-tegra issue: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Testing/09_12_12#Round_Table
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# [10:25] <edmorley> Callek: sure, I'll join the meeting :-)
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# [10:26] <Callek> edmorley: I have no idea if you think you'll be useful for that chat, or how much -- if anything -- will be deferred, but just making you aware of it
# [10:26] <edmorley> thank you :-)
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# [10:55] <firebot> gabor was last seen 18 hours, 56 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying 'janv: probably this is what I need' in #developers.
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# [11:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e88637dd3514 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 789007 - Unwanted border between pinned tabs and navigation toolbar when tabstrip overflows. r=ttaubert a=akeybl
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# [11:52] <Optimizer> is VISA required for attending MozCamp in other countries ?
# [11:53] <derf> That depends on the country, and what citizenships you hold.
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# [11:53] <Optimizer> Indian
# [11:54] <derf> Still depends on the country you're trying to visit.
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# [11:55] <Optimizer> Singapore (might be, result is not out)
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# [11:55] <derf> For example, for the next MozCamp Asia (in Singapore), a visa would be required: http://singapore.visahq.com/requirements/India/resident-United_States/
# [11:56] <derf> (change resident country to suit, but I don't think it matters)
# [11:56] <Optimizer> oh, how much time will it take for the visa process, because I don;t want to miss it out just becaus eof the VISA if the results are late
# [11:56] <Optimizer> yeah it doesn;t matter
# [11:56] <derf> I have no idea.
# [11:56] <gcp> varies a lot, but I'd plan a few months in advance...
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# [11:57] <Optimizer> dammit , its a manual process in India
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# [11:58] <derf> The only place I've ever visited that a) required a visa but b) supported electronic visas was Australia.
# [11:59] <NeilAway> there was a reason that the Summits were in Canada ;-)
# [12:01] <Optimizer> derf: the link that you did, indians in US had an online process
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# [12:19] <@smaug> do we have any macro to tell the size of size_t?
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# [12:19] <gfritzsche> taras: so you don't think we need to know about the other installed plugins anymore? (bug 695589)
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# [12:19] <@smaug> so that I could do #ifdef SIZE_T_4_BYTES do something #else something else
# [12:19] <mak> taras: yeah, hope it sticks too :)
# [12:19] <taras> gfritzsche: i personally don't have a use for that
# [12:20] <taras> however if someone else does, i wont object
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# [12:20] <gfritzsche> taras: ah, i see
# [12:20] <taras> i know flash was high priority for us
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# [12:22] <NeilAway> smaug: hmm, well there's HAVE_64BIT_OS which is set when sizeof(void*) == 8
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# [12:24] <@smaug> NeilAway: ah, that could work
# [12:25] <cjones> smaug, if (sizeof(size_t) == 4) { ... } else { ... }?
# [12:25] <@smaug> cjones: must be compile time
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# [12:25] <@smaug> planning to optimize addref/release some more
# [12:25] <@smaug> need to do some testing first
# [12:25] <NeilAway> smaug: PR_BYTES_PER_WORD perhas
# [12:25] <cjones> use a template?
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# [12:43] <froydnj> gfritzsche: I thought I remember bsmedberg saying that we only needed flash, ever
# [12:45] <gfritzsche> froydnj: hm, at least that's not my last info.
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# [13:53] <kk1fff> smaug, Hi, may I ask a question about nsFrameMessageManager?
# [13:53] <@smaug> sure
# [13:55] <kk1fff> smaug, what is the Disconnect() designed for? Can it be called if child process is crashed?
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# [13:57] <@smaug> kk1fff: disconnect is for the case when mm should be removed from the owner manager
# [13:57] <@smaug> basically when you remove <xul:browser> from document
# [13:58] <@smaug> kk1fff: are you asking if you could call it when child process crashes ?
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# [14:01] <kk1fff> smaug, yeah.
# [14:01] <@smaug> that wouldn't be the right thing
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# [14:03] <@smaug> (it is not quite clear to me what you're doing )
# [14:04] <kk1fff> smaug, because after child process crash, the mm didn't throw an exception when we call it to sendasyncmsg
# [14:04] <@smaug> ++gavin
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# [14:04] <@gavin> smaug: ?
# [14:04] <@smaug> gavin: fixing Bug 780594 which may fix bug 786940
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# [14:05] <@gavin> smaug: I'm not sure that it will
# [14:05] <@smaug> k
# [14:05] <@smaug> I'll try to reproduce Bug 786940 once the patch is in m-c
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# [14:13] <froydnj> edmorley: np, sorry this can't be very robust :(
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# [15:42] <edmorley> well, on by default, off for b2g and android?
# [15:42] <bhearsum> ah, right!
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# [15:43] <edmorley> (bug 789373)
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# [15:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9374b6502e7a - Patrick Wang - Bug 787517: Test case for reproducing bug r=jlebar
# [15:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d59d22a34c1 - Patrick Wang - Bug 787517: Prevent failure in BrowserElementParent when MessageManager is not available for sending message r=jlebar
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# [16:12] <glandium> past: ping
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# [16:13] <past> glandium: pong
# [16:13] <glandium> past: the remote debugging protocol doesn't allow some form of call back, does it? (like, getting notifications from the remote)
# [16:14] <past> yes, the server can send unsolicited messages to the client
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# [16:15] <glandium> past: oh. how does that work?
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# [16:16] <past> glandium: we currently need to patch the dbg-client.jsm library
# [16:17] <past> glandium: see the tabNavigated or newScript message handling
# [16:17] <past> the former is in dbg-browser-actors.js and the latter in dbg-script-actors.js
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# [16:18] <past> glandium: the server just sends a regular message, but we modify the client's dispatcher and add that message type to the UnsolicitedNotifications map
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# [16:19] <glandium> past: mmmm might be interesting to make that easier, but that will work for me for the moment
# [16:20] <past> glandium: agreed
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# [16:31] <florian> is there any way to see what the cross-compartment-wrappers that I see in about:memory actually wrap?
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# [16:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/729ba40f9a14 - James Willcox - Bug 786248 - Followup to add a small comment
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# [16:42] <glandium> past: so if i get it right i need to call addListener on the client
# [16:42] <past> glandium: yes
# [16:43] <bhearsum> sfink: ping
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# [16:45] <past> glandium: this may be helpful: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Debugger_Client_API
# [16:45] <past> glandium: also this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Debugger_Architecture
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# [16:51] <glandium> past: oh, btw, there's something awkward with the remote-enabled pref not having the same meaning on desktop and mobile
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# [16:52] <past> glandium: it will make a little bit more sense when we add the ability to start a server on desktop
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# [16:52] <glandium> past: yeah, but currently, it also turns the remote debugger menu item on/off
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# [16:52] <glandium> i guess eventually, it won't be hidden behind a pref
# [16:53] <past> glandium: right
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# [17:21] <bhearsum> ehsan: do you know of anything that landed on Nightly recently that could potentially make localized builds contact AUS as if they were en-US?
# [17:21] <bhearsum> or any changes around that code in general, really
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# [17:21] <@ehsan> bhearsum: not really, but I haven't been watching very closely
# [17:21] <bhearsum> np
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# [17:21] <bhearsum> i'll poke around
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# [17:27] <bhearsum> ouch, this hglog is near-useless now: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/87f6f50a0207/toolkit/mozapps/update/nsUpdateService.js
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# [17:28] <mkohler> how can I see if a certain event is dispatched within a window? e.g. SSWindowClosing
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# [17:29] <mwic> is this a good channel for a Boot to Gecko build question ?
# [17:29] <@gavin> bhearsum: why? I still see relevant info after the ionmonkey merge commits
# [17:29] <@gavin> mwic: you might try #b2g isntead
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# [17:29] <bhearsum> gavin: oh, huh
# [17:29] <@ehsan> hmm, why did the merge commits touch that file at all?!
# [17:29] <bhearsum> gavin: i stopped reading after i saw "2011"
# [17:29] <mwic> gavin, sounds perfect .. should be on the list maybe? https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC#Project_Channels
# [17:29] <@ehsan> ah someone should fix hgweb at some point
# [17:29] <bhearsum> that's a relief though!
# [17:30] <@gavin> mwic: sure, feel free to add it :)
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# [17:32] <bhearsum> if there's anyone around with insight into how/why a localized build would be telling AUS that it's en-US, i'd appreciate your input into https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790637
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# [17:35] <@ehsan> bhearsum: so
# [17:35] <@ehsan> bhearsum: this is the function which constructs the URL: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/nsUpdateService.js#2637
# [17:35] <@ehsan> and it calls getLocale() to get the locale
# [17:35] <@ehsan> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/nsUpdateService.js#852
# [17:35] <@ehsan> which looks for the file update.locale
# [17:35] <bhearsum> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2ba8a2e306fa changed that method pretty recently
# [17:35] <@ehsan> do we have that file in the localized builds?
# [17:35] <bhearsum> looking
# [17:36] <mbrubeck> snorp was dealing with update.locale-related problems on Android last week...
# [17:36] <bhearsum> yup, i've got it in this build
# [17:36] <@ehsan> cat it
# [17:36] <bhearsum> and it has 'fr' in it, not en-US
# [17:36] <@ehsan> ok
# [17:36] <@ehsan> so that tells me that %LOCALE% does not exist in the update url
# [17:36] <Pike> snorp was picking the wrong locale code
# [17:37] <snorp> yeah
# [17:37] <bhearsum> https://aus3.mozilla.org/update/3/%PRODUCT%/%VERSION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/update.xml
# [17:37] <@ehsan> bhearsum: turn app.update.log on, and see if you get a message like this:
# [17:37] <snorp> so
# [17:37] <bhearsum> ^ thath's my update URL
# [17:37] <@ehsan> bhearsum: getLocale - getting locale from file:
# [17:37] <bhearsum> k
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# [17:37] <@ehsan> bhearsum: or any message with "locale" in it
# [17:37] <bhearsum> AUS:SVC getLocale - getting locale from file: resource://app/update.locale, locale: en-US
# [17:37] <snorp> bhearsum: on desktop?
# [17:37] <bhearsum> yeah
# [17:37] <bhearsum> nightly
# [17:38] <@ehsan> bhearsum: load resource://app/update.locale in the address bar
# [17:38] <snorp> there is a pref, hold on
# [17:38] <@ehsan> and see what it says
# [17:38] <bhearsum> ehsan: en-US
# [17:38] <bhearsum> which doesn't match the update.locale in the root of my appdir
# [17:38] <@ehsan> hmm
# [17:38] <Pike> bhearsum: works for me on de mac nightly
# [17:38] <bhearsum> update.locale in omni.ja says en-US =\
# [17:38] <Cwiiis> when running mochitest-chrome on a particular test, is there a way that I can tell it to keep the test open after it completes?
# [17:38] <@ehsan> well there you go
# [17:38] <Pike> oh f, someone fixed the build again?
# [17:39] <snorp> oh nevermind the pref is for something else
# [17:39] <snorp> the update service should just ignore the locale
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# [17:40] <snorp> at least for nightly maybe
# [17:40] <bhearsum> Pike: sounds like you have insight here?
# [17:40] <bhearsum> snorp: i'm pretty sure that pref is obeyed as an override, but i don't think it's relevant here, as i'm testing with a clean profile
# [17:40] <snorp> bhearsum: ah
# [17:40] <@ehsan> bhearsum: now it's time to see what this rule does: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/Makefile.in#46
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# [17:41] <snorp> why is this string in update.locale anyway
# [17:41] <snorp> it should just be a compiler macro
# [17:41] <@ehsan> bhearsum: oh wait, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/Makefile.in#46 creates the update.locale in the app dir
# [17:41] <Pike> snorp: to not depend on user settings, but know which build you're updating
# [17:41] <@ehsan> which I think is not what we end up using
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# [17:42] <bhearsum> ehsan: unless i'm misunderstanding here, we're using the update.locale from omni.ja, as that's the only one with 'en-US' in it
# [17:42] <Pike> bhearsum: nope, I don't know what folks do with builds recently, just that builds break happily these days with every "fix" of the build system
# [17:42] <@ehsan> bhearsum: correct
# [17:42] <bhearsum> Pike: ok, any tips on which files to look at the hg logs of?
# [17:43] <bhearsum> maybe ted has an idea of a suspect change recently
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# [17:43] <@gavin> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/385846d8b780 changed which file we use
# [17:43] <Pike> bhearsum: not really. it could also be a mismatch between runtime and fx locale stuff
# [17:43] <@gavin> (omnijar vs. appdir)
# [17:43] <@gavin> it's odd that your appdir copy is different than the omnijar one
# [17:43] <bhearsum> yeah
# [17:44] <Pike> I'm not really surprised, sadly
# [17:44] <@gavin> AFAIK the latter should be a copy of the former
# [17:44] <bhearsum> that looks quite suspect, but that's VERY old
# [17:44] <@gavin> via http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/87f6f50a0207/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk#l495
# [17:44] <@ehsan> gavin: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk#495 is where the latter is coming from
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> It seems to be from dist/bin...
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# [17:44] <@gavin> did someone change FINAL_TARGET?
# [17:44] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [17:44] <@ehsan> I know what's happening
# [17:45] <@ehsan> so we build our l10n builds by repacking en-US.jar
# [17:45] <@ehsan> right?
# [17:45] <bhearsum> Pike: ^
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# [17:45] <Pike> ehsan: yeah
# [17:45] <@ehsan> that won't change the rest of the stuff in omni.ja
# [17:45] <@ehsan> which means that the update.locale file there would be coming from an en-US build
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# [17:45] <@ehsan> mystery solved :)
# [17:45] <@ehsan> bhearsum: ^
# [17:45] <bhearsum> ehsan: can you put that into the bug?
# [17:45] <@gavin> well, that change landed in nov 2011
# [17:45] <@ehsan> sure
# [17:45] <@gavin> why is this only happening now?
# [17:46] <@ehsan> gavin: could be a change in how we do repacks?
# [17:46] <bhearsum> is there some other related change that happened recently?
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# [17:46] <@ehsan> Pike: ^
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# [17:46] <Pike> again, I wouldn't know
# [17:46] <bhearsum> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/default/toolkit/locales/l10n.mk doesn't have anything notable recently
# [17:46] <Pike> all the folks that change the build system don't tell when they do
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# [17:47] <bhearsum> maybe glandium or ted knows
# [17:47] <edmorley> philor: regarding the r+ comment: do you think we need only "^Output exceeded" and not the rest? (no idea what difference it makes for regex perf; or if we even need to worry about the parser regex perf)
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# [17:49] <glandium> bhearsum: what's the problem?
# [17:49] <bhearsum> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d2cf237d02fd is recent
# [17:49] <bhearsum> glandium: nightly l10n builds are reporting to AUS as en-US, because update.locale in omni.ja says en-US
# [17:49] <@gavin> bhearsum: mm, yeah, that looks likely
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# [17:50] <glandium> bhearsum: is it for today's nightly or older?
# [17:50] <@gavin> it was reported today
# [17:50] <bhearsum> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2012/09/2012-09-11-14-03-51-mozilla-central-l10n/firefox-18.0a1.fr.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 is the build i've been testing with
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# [17:50] <@gavin> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790637#c0
# [17:50] <bhearsum> let me figure out what changeset it is
# [17:50] <bhearsum> fdfaef738a00
# [17:51] <zzzzz> that's the ion merge build
# [17:51] <@gavin> 2012-09-11-14 is post bug 787165, I think
# [17:51] <glandium> bhearsum: then d2cf237d02fd is a very likely cause
# [17:51] <@ted> we break l10n builds all the time
# [17:52] <@ted> because there's no way to test them other than just land your stuff and see what breaks
# [17:52] <bhearsum> well, we have l10n-check
# [17:52] <@gavin> at least we have some form of automation, apparently!
# [17:52] <glandium> seriously, we need a way to test them on try
# [17:52] <bhearsum> that will turn the build orange
# [17:52] <bhearsum> but l10n-check doesn't catch this type of problem
# [17:52] <glandium> bhearsum: and it didn't
# [17:52] <@ted> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787165#c2
# [17:52] <bhearsum> l10n-check is more "did i break the makefiles" rather than "did i break the functionality"
# [17:52] <bhearsum> ted: hah!
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# [17:53] <glandium> ... and i was going to look later today
# [17:53] <bhearsum> ok, so i've had to shut off nightly updates because of this -- can we either back this out and respin nightlies, or find a fix soonish?
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# [17:53] <glandium> bhearsum: backout
# [17:53] <Pike> ted: with l10n repacks, that's not hard, though
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# [17:54] <bhearsum> ok, can someone push that, and i'll retrigger nightlies?
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# [17:56] <bhearsum> thanks Pike, ehsan, ted, glandium, gavin for helping debug this
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# [17:58] <@ted> ehsan: have you talked with anyone about having IT own your git mirror of m-c?
# [17:58] <glandium> Pike: what would it take to make one repack,even a fake, part of the build?
# [17:59] <bhearsum> isn't that what l10n-check does?
# [17:59] <bhearsum> something close to it, at least
# [17:59] <glandium> ehsan: btw, about the git mirror, is the problem a problem with your server, or a problem with hg-git?
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# [18:00] <Pike> glandium: l10n-check does that, but there are no tests run on the build. And in this particular case, it's even harder, as you'd have to run an update test or so
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# [18:01] <glandium> Pike: well, in that case, a content check would have picked the problem
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# [18:01] <Pike> note, I'm not sure if l10n-check tries to replicate the build steps that are done on the repack side, i.e., ensure that you only have the stuff that tier_whatnot has built
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# [18:02] <bhearsum> l10n-check could check that update.locale is correct, couldn't it?
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# [18:02] <Pike> glandium: feel free to write more tests ;-)
# [18:02] <glandium> bhearsum: that would have caught this one, at least. not sure that's enough, though
# [18:02] <Pike> bhearsum: in this particular case, it probably would need to do a runtime test, though, to be really sure?
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# [18:03] <bhearsum> well, we obviously can't predict and catch ALL failures, but this seems like a simple one to test for
# [18:03] <bhearsum> and considering the failure mode is "give users the wrong locale"....
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# [18:04] <Pike> also, as whimboo mentioned in the bug, we did catch this in our test infrastructure
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# [18:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d260fcec71ce - Mike Hommey - Backout changeset d2cf237d02fd (bug 787165) for l10n updates bustage
# [18:04] <bhearsum> sure
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# [18:04] <bhearsum> but that's after it was live for hours
# [18:05] <bhearsum> updating users to the wrong locale is a VERY serious mistake to make
# [18:05] <glandium> bhearsum: there you are ^
# [18:05] <bhearsum> thanks, i'll trigger the nightlies
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# [18:06] <@ehsan> ted: well, releng has plans to support git, and I've talked with them, but they didn't seem interested in maintaining what I have right now
# [18:06] <@ehsan> glandium: I _think_ it's a problem with hg-git, since I'm getting missing commits and blobs in my history
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# [18:06] <@ehsan> glandium: but it's very hard to be sire
# [18:06] <@ehsan> sure, even
# [18:06] <bhearsum> ehsan, ted: i'm certain that hwine will have a working mozilla-central clone at some poin
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# [18:07] <@ehsan> bhearsum: yes, and in the mean time I need to spend time fixing up my mirror since b2g uses it :(
# [18:07] <bhearsum> wtf, really?
# [18:07] <@ehsan> and hwine resists the idea of just using my mirror
# [18:07] <@ehsan> so, I end up being the loser in this game
# [18:07] <@ehsan> bhearsum: yes
# [18:07] <@ted> bhearsum: okay
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# [18:11] <bhearsum> i filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790655
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# [18:19] <bhearsum> ehsan: hwine tells me that we'll be rolling out a properly maintained clone "soon"
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# [18:19] <@ehsan> ok
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# [18:19] <@ehsan> bhearsum: then let's hope that b2g will start using that, since their migration is probably going to be painful
# [18:19] <bhearsum> apparently it's being rolled out for them primarily
# [18:20] <hwine> ehsan - there's a github issue to switch to the releng version, which seems to have survived the merge
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# [18:20] <hwine> it appears to be working fine - see https://github.com/mozilla/releases-mozilla-central
# [18:20] <bhearsum> i would suggest that ehsan not fixing his incentivizes them to swiwch :D
# [18:21] <bhearsum> switch, even
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# [18:21] <@ehsan> hmm
# [18:21] <@ehsan> hwine: have you run git fsck on that repo?
# [18:22] <hwine> not since the merge - I'll start one now
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# [18:22] <@ehsan> hwine: thanks
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# [18:24] <@ehsan> mconley: ping
# [18:24] <mconley> ehsan: pong
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# [18:25] <@ehsan> mconley: do you mind pushing 790453 to the comm branches?
# [18:25] <@ehsan> I don't have the clones around
# [18:25] <mconley> ehsan: sure, cand o
# [18:25] <mconley> er, can do
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# [18:26] <edmorley> philor: those new failures look 'interesting'
# [18:26] <philor> edmorley: tough to find someone I really want to blame, other than mak
# [18:27] <edmorley> philor: sorry have been trying to get on with a few patches so been paying less attention to inbound this afternoon
# [18:27] <edmorley> philor: I was thinking of merging from 1248c7a5c546 for now and taking a look at inbound after my meeting in 10 mins
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# [18:28] <@ehsan> mconley: thanks
# [18:28] <philor> edmorley: no idea, maybe that would be fine, maybe that would merge an OF of 1
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# [18:29] <hwine> ehsan: fyi see https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/B2G/issues/108
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# [18:30] <edmorley> philor: oh hmmm that's right before isn't it; I'll hold off
# [18:30] <bent> do we have any reliable contact for the OS/2 port these days?
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# [18:30] <bent> mkaply maybe?
# [18:30] <edmorley> philor: btw has my no-coalescing on self-serve retrigger patch worked?
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# [18:31] <hwine> ehsan: our repo passes fsck
# [18:31] <bent> mkaply, i can't remember if you have much to do with OS/2 these days
# [18:31] <bent> ?
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# [18:31] <philor> edmorley: omg omg so working so pretty and happy
# [18:31] <mkaply> bent: Not really, but I know the folks who do and I get copied on bugs now and then.
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# [18:31] <mkaply> bent: And you totally missed the call me maybe reference. How sad.
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# [18:32] <apollo13> hi, can I ask here regarding firefox crashes (I am not getting much useful from /topic :))
# [18:32] <bent> mkaply, i'm bad with pop culture, always have been
# [18:32] <edmorley> philor: ok, so I just mis-tested then, that's a relief :-)
# [18:32] <bent> mkaply, so who's the "new mkaply" for OS/2 things?
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# [18:34] <mkaply> bent: see this bug for the folks
# [18:34] <mkaply> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773959
# [18:34] <mkaply> Dave Yeo I think is one
# [18:34] <bent> mkaply, thanks!
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# [18:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7220ec7a1dc6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 790453 - Rename the pref for background updates to app.update.staging.enabled; r=rstrong a=akeybl
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# [18:43] <sid0> er
# [18:43] <sid0> partial mars
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# [18:45] <@bz> is devmo down?
# [18:45] <@bz> er, I meant tbpl
# [18:45] <philor> mak: yep
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# [18:45] <philor> bz: shift+reload, or figure out wtf is going wrong for us, that would be even better
# [18:46] <mak> philor: eventually we may try to comment out browser_aboutHome.js test and see if they disappear... strange though
# [18:47] <zzzzz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ seems ok here
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# [18:49] <@bz> I can't load it at all
# [18:49] <@bz> spinner just spins...
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# [18:49] <@bz> works in Safari
# [18:49] <@bz> wtf???
# [18:50] <@bz> and now works in Firefox too...
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# [19:09] <joe> ehsan and djvj's bet depends on new nightlies!
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# [19:12] <@ehsan> hwine: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/B2G/issues/108#issuecomment-8457202
# [19:12] <NeilAway> ddahl: nsIFile::GetTarget ?
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# [19:12] <@ehsan> hwine: I thought we decided that we will include the cvs history
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# [19:12] <hwine> ehsan: (see email) we did, and it will. That work is not completed yet
# [19:13] <hwine> ehsan: thus the questions in the email
# [19:13] <@ehsan> hwine: so, why are you asking b2g to switch to a repo that will change again?
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# [19:14] <hwine> that was a discussion above my pay grade - I'm simply putting it forward as one possible short term fix atm. And yes, it's not "free"
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# [19:14] <@ehsan> hwine: I had that discussion with joduinn-mtg
# [19:15] <@ehsan> and I thought he agreed
# [19:15] <jgriffin> seems like https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central isn't getting updated; do you own that ehsan ?
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# [19:15] <@ehsan> hwine: well, this is extremely disappointing
# [19:15] <@ehsan> jgriffin: yes, see the dev.platform post
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# [19:15] <jgriffin> thanks
# [19:15] <hwine> ehsan: 2 separate issues - a) when to move b2g, and b) will we add CVS history
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# [19:16] <hwine> ehsan: the commitment remains to add CVS history - it just has not yet happened. No change on that
# [19:17] <gps> what's the point in having non-CVS history repos in the wild? they should all be deleted
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# [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a97ee632b165 - Tom Schuster - No bug - Proxy::fun_toString should call the fun_toString handler. r=jorendorff
# [19:18] <@ehsan> hwine: it does affect the b2g folks... I can't believe we're having this discussion again
# [19:18] <@ehsan> hwine: anyways I'm going into a meeting now, but it looks like I'll be maintaining my repo for now
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# [19:20] <hwine> ehsan-mtg: we are not having the discussion again. We are simply offering the b2g team an alternative. If it's not wanted, that's the team's choice.
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# [19:29] <joduinn-mtg> ehsan-mtg: hey, joduinn-mtg here... in london at offsite.
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# [19:34] <catlee> jrmuizel: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790679
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# [19:41] <@ehsan-mtg> hwine: joduinn-mtg: ok, I commented on the github issue, and I'm sad that the new repo does not address my needs. we'll let b2g folks decide what they want.
# [19:42] <hwine> ehsan-mtg: I think we had a mis-communication, I'm working on a better email at the moment. We remain committed to providing the repot that meets your needs is the short story.
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# [19:51] <ddahl> NeilAway: thanks. I should learn to read:)
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# [19:54] <@ehsan-mtg> hwine: I am not sure if there has been a miscommunication
# [19:54] <@ehsan-mtg> hwine: and I don't mind if b2g uses your repo
# [19:54] <@ehsan-mtg> hwine: and I'll have to ask someone in IT to start maintaining mine
# [19:54] <@ehsan-mtg> and things will be good I guess
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# [19:55] <@ehsan-mtg> ok
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# [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b02b848613e - Fabrice Desré - Bug 786203 - Permission Prompt should tell which app it comes from instead only gives the url [r=mounir]
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# [20:12] <jlebar> Anyone have an opinion on whether nsFoo : public nsIFoo should be inside a namespace?
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# [20:15] <@ted> jlebar: seems redundant with the ns
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# [20:15] <@ted> if you can drop the ns from it...
# [20:16] <jlebar> ted, Do you think it's confusing that mozilla::foo::Foo implements nsIFoo?
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# [20:17] <@ted> i don't think so
# [20:17] <@ted> nsIFoo is an anachronism
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# [20:17] <@ted> we actually have interfaces that use other prefixes
# [20:17] <@ted> is this a new interface? you could just make it IFoo :)
# [20:17] <jlebar> ted, Indeed, like "moz".
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# [20:18] <jlebar> ted, But calling the class mozilla::foo::Foo sounds good to me.
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# [20:35] <yury> octane is using setTimeout to simulate events in pdfjs test
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# [20:36] <decoder> ehsan-mtg: re: filing individual bugs, i cant file those right now since im working on filing more bugs of the same type that you're looking at right now. But if you dont need separate bugs, then I dont really care =) we can perfectly add multiple tests in that single bug
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# [20:37] <@ehsan-mtg> decoder: in my experience, these types of bugs tend to get worked on very rarely
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# [20:38] <@ehsan-mtg> decoder: because they're mostly saying "we need more tests"
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# [20:38] <@ehsan-mtg> but individual contributors can work on speicific tests
# [20:38] <@ehsan-mtg> so the smaller the scope of the bug is, the better
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# [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb94b09949ca - Wes Johnston - Bug 787271 - Add methods to call in jni through ctypes. r=mfinkle,blassey
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/272eede695e4 - Wes Johnston - Bug 783921 - Fix homescreen icon scaling. r=mfinkle
# [20:43] <decoder> ehsan-mtg: that makes perfectly sense. We expect the module owners/peers to distribute the work appropriately or break it up into subtasks, so that sounds exactly what you're doing already =)
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# [20:43] <decoder> we can only do this on a file/module level right now and need to rely on others to go further down and analyze it
# [20:44] <@ehsan> decoder: ok
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# [20:45] <NeilAway> ddahl: I'm not sure how to tell why that happens without using gdb :s
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# [20:45] <decoder> ehsan: and btw, if some of these areas are unreasonable to test, thats fine too :)
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# [20:46] <decoder> i cant really tell that from the data I see. I can only tell that the file was patched due to security problems and has uncovered code that isnt obviously debug-only :D
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# [20:46] <@ehsan> decoder: in the case of nsSelection.cpp, they're all testable -- we just need more selection/caret tests
# [20:46] <decoder> e.g. the keyboard language switching stuff sounds hard
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# [20:46] <@ehsan> decoder: we can test that too by having a test only function which simulates that
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# [20:47] <decoder> ah ok:)
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# [20:49] <decoder> ehsan: btw thanks for looking at these =)
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# [20:50] <@ehsan> np
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# [20:51] <decoder> ehsan: i got one more in editor on my radar
# [20:51] <decoder> that is http://people.mozilla.org/~choller/coverage/mc-tests-all-20120903/editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditRules.cpp.gcov.html
# [20:52] <decoder> ill file a bug for that one too and we can see if it's actionable then
# [20:52] <@ehsan> decoder: same comments would apply there as ell!
# [20:52] <@ehsan> *well
# [20:52] <decoder> yea I thought so already
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# [20:52] <@ehsan> decoder: and for everything else in editor/ for that matter ;)
# [20:52] <decoder> it's only those 2 files that I saw for now
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# [20:52] <decoder> they have in total 5 distinct patches due to sec-critical or sec-high issues
# [20:52] <decoder> in the last 6 months
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# [20:52] <decoder> which is why they stand out
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# [20:53] <@ehsan> decoder: yep, I know :)
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# [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b68926c02a83 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 788276 - Properly check for broken (deprecated) compilers. r=gps.
# [21:00] <decoder> espindola: ping
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# [21:00] <espindola> decoder, pong
# [21:00] <espindola> decoder, the "unknown instruction" problem?
# [21:00] <decoder> espindola: re that mach-override bug. what information do you need exactly? how to repro?
# [21:00] <decoder> yea
# [21:01] <espindola> decoder, just how you were building it
# [21:01] <edmorley|away> philor: do we think it's a compilation problem, given retriggers come back orange?
# [21:01] <espindola> OS version
# [21:01] <espindola> compiler version
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# [21:01] <decoder> espindola: okay, asking that now =)
# [21:01] <edmorley|away> philor: although across platforms, weird
# [21:02] <decoder> espindola: OS X 10.8.1. rev is coming..
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# [21:04] <philor> edmorley|away: I wanted it to be a clobber problem, but I couldn't persuade myself it could be
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# [21:09] <@ted> cjones: i don't know if i ever mentioned to you, but Breakpad got a core file -> minidump converter a while ago
# [21:09] <@ted> they're using it for ChromeOS
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# [21:11] <@ted> we could use that for B2G if we want to handle crashes from other processes
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# [21:13] <mak> philor: clearly trying to reproduce the failur e locally miserably failed
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# [21:13] <decoder> espindola: nevermind, his clang is kinda ancient, ill tell him to upgrade first
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# [21:29] <philor> mak: woo, we finally retriggered enough on your push to hit it there
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# [21:29] <mak> philor: I honestly had no doubt regarding that, it's still puzzling mostly cause it's linux only
# [21:30] <mak> philor: locally I have reproduced a random failure... another one though :p
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# [21:31] <philor> mak: it's not Linux only, we've hit it on Win, I forget which, and 10.8
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# [21:31] <philor> both Win7 and WinXP
# [21:31] <mak> philor: ehr, that makes more sense (not code-wise, but at least is coherently random)
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# [21:33] <mak> philor: so, I'd say either backout or disable the test... likely backout just in case
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# [21:33] <mak> will do
# [21:33] <mak> I
# [21:34] <philor> mak: and welcome back :)
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# [21:34] <mak> a backout is not a welcome :)
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# [21:39] <espindola> decoder, sorry if I missed something, the x server crashed :-(
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# [21:39] <espindola> decoder, last message was:
# [21:39] <espindola> <decoder> espindola: nevermind, his clang is kinda ancient, ill tell him to upgrade first
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# [21:41] <armenzg> jmaher: coop Callek I will answer the email from releng POV (wrt IM + automated testing)
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# [21:42] <Callek> armenzg: great thanks
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# [21:45] <decoder> espindola: yea, I'm still upgrading him now =)
# [21:45] <decoder> you missed nothing
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# [21:52] <edmorley|away> akeybl: I think asking people to set status fixed for m-c landings isn't going to be sustainable
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# [21:53] <edmorley|away> akeybl: even if we patch the tool used to mark after merges, people are still going to forget to check if tracking, so the saved searches will still need to use milestone surely?
# [21:53] <akeybl> edmorley|away: that's only for tracked flags
# [21:53] <akeybl> tracked bugs*
# [21:54] <akeybl> it's OK if people forget, we'll clean up
# [21:54] <edmorley|away> yeah, but I've had a hard enough time getting people to set assignee or even check milestone itself
# [21:54] <akeybl> but we do want tracking flags to match up with status flags
# [21:54] <edmorley|away> ok :-)
# [21:54] <akeybl> because if people don't set them, they still show up in our queries
# [21:54] <akeybl> it's a minor nit
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# [21:56] <edmorley|away> akeybl: I presume no-one would object if the tool used for marking after merges set it for all bugs, not just tracking? (just to reduce complexity)
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# [22:09] <decoder> what component is smil?
# [22:09] <decoder> (content/smil)
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# [22:10] <decoder> dholbert: ^^
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# [22:14] <dholbert> decoder, SVG
# [22:14] <dholbert> Core:SVG
# [22:14] <decoder> thanks!=)
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# [22:16] <@ehsan> jduell: so, I now have a nsIPrivateBrowsingChannel which sort of works
# [22:16] <@ehsan> jduell: what was the stuff that you wanted me to put into a template class?
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# [22:23] <@bsmedberg> wow, Firefox 10.0.3 running on WINN 4.10?
# [22:23] <@bsmedberg> WINNT
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# [22:23] <hobophobe> Looking at bug 464489 again: the favicon service |setAndFetchFaviconForPage| is async, so it can finish out of order, meaning the wrong favicon gets associated.
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# [22:28] <hobophobe> Is there a good example of async code that already guarantees consistency that might be useful to pattern a fix after?
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# [22:33] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: well, at least they didn't have any unicode issues to worry about
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# [22:34] <jaws> can someone explain what this regex does? (?:[^.]*\.){1}
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# [22:35] <jaws> i'm curious about that question mark
# [22:35] <devd> jaws: it says don't put that in a matching group
# [22:35] <@ehsan> jaws: ?: means ignore the parenthesis for match groups
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# [22:35] <devd> jaws: i.e., don't save it; often a useful optimization if you don't need it
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# [22:35] <jaws> devd, ehsan: ok thanks!
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# [22:51] <ddahl> filesystem question: using "XCurProcD" to identify the dist/bin/ directory - what would be the safest way (in a test) to get the directory your mochitest browser test is running in?
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# [22:59] <decoder> dholbert: i filed you one bug on smil coverage, but it's really looking good in that subsystem
# [22:59] <dholbert> decoder, thanks! (and that's good to hear, thanks!)
# [22:59] <decoder> lots of coverage. but maybe the data still helps to shed some light on corner case implementation that might be untested =)
# [22:59] <decoder> np =)
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# [23:07] <gps> curl https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/raw-file/default/python/mozboot/bin/bootstrap.py | python -
# [23:07] <gps> run that to bootstrap your system so it can build m-c :)
# [23:07] <gps> (only works on Linux so far. OS X patch is pending review)
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# [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87f6f50a0207 - Joel Maher - Bug 790271 - upload new talos.zip to capture fix for fennec robocop and xperf reporting. r=armenzg
# [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13f933298cf2 - Aki Sasaki - bug 789373 - android-noion mozconfig. r=dvander DONTBUILD
# [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7781628da6dd - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
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# [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c1a32f92d28 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 767449 - Allow robotium tests to put files in places other than /mnt/sdcard. r=jmaher
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# [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1043cd9de87 - Ralph Giles - Bug 790381 - Filter out makefile comments in opus update.sh. r=derf
# [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f00973c233e8 - Ralph Giles - Bug 790381 - Remove custom extern "C" on opus_multistream.h. r=derf
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# [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e265b3a3e743 - Jared Wein - Bug 790278 - Add Social API prefs to about:support. r=gavin
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# [23:10] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: yeesh, I was about to pick m-c up on my push
# [23:10] <gaston> gps: dont tempt me to try it on OpenBSD :)
# [23:10] <jdm> gps: \o/
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# [23:11] <gps> gaston: OpenBSD support would be nice. I'll review that patch!
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# [23:11] <gaston> damn. you got me. :)
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# [23:12] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: sorry! (although given the risk of conflicts post-merging, I think it's best to not combine with checkin-neededs myself :-))
# [23:12] <RyanVM> meh, hasn't burned me yet :P
# [23:13] <edmorley|away> that's just the checkin-neededs, right? ;-:P
# [23:13] <edmorley|away> bah, fat fingers
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# [23:13] <RyanVM> btw, awful late in the day for you to be merging :)
# [23:13] <RyanVM> the night crew's already in
# [23:14] <edmorley|away> yeah, just hadn't got one in earlier due to the intermittent m-oth throughout the afternoon
# [23:14] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: I'll leave you to enjoy :-)
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# [23:14] <RyanVM> so kind of you!
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# [23:15] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: :-D
# [23:15] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: I'll probably still try for another tonight
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# [23:15] <RyanVM> i kind of like the 2 a day cadence we've had going lately
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# [23:17] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: yeah :-)
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# [23:17] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: in other news, load looks great :-) http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/pending.html
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# [23:17] <RyanVM> yeah, things have been a lot better lately
# [23:17] <RyanVM> *knock on wood*
# [23:17] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: the freeing up of the iX machines (due to outsourcing other platforms to amazon EC2) has really helped on windows & more to come
# [23:18] <jhammel> RyanVM: be nice to Callek !
# [23:18] <RyanVM> yeah, and pymake too
# [23:18] <jhammel> knocking on him like that
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# [23:18] <RyanVM> jhammel: until tegras work reliably, he'll get all the knocking I can give him
# [23:18] <Callek> and wonders what jhammel is referring to specifically
# [23:18] <jhammel> Callek: bad pun on your name ;)
# [23:18] <Callek> jhammel: ahh :-P
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# [23:18] <Callek> RyanVM: we're working to get it better
# [23:19] <Callek> *seriously*
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# [23:21] <RyanVM> Callek: it seems like "unable to connect" happens in bunches, like there was a network hiccup or something
# [23:22] <gaston> ahah i see what it does
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# [23:29] <gps> gaston: I reckon you figured out how it does module loading?
# [23:30] <gaston> i'll fiddle with it
# [23:30] <gps> also, see the OS X patch at bug 774109 for coding style that doesn't use os.system
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# [23:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d06938893ffe - Chris Pearce - Bug 790521 - Propagate fullscreen state changes across countent boundaries rather than only mozbrowser boundaries. r=jlebar
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# [23:38] <espindola> Jesse, ping
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# [23:38] <Jesse> espindola: pong
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# [23:39] <espindola> Jesse, do you know which crashes reproduce 787302
# [23:39] <espindola> can I just add a MOZ_ASSERT(0) somewhere?
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# [23:40] <Jesse> espindola: see bug links in comment 0
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# [23:41] <espindola> ah, "cool", they are not fixed yet
# [23:41] <jcranmer> decoder: ping
# [23:41] <espindola> will take a look
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# [23:43] <decoder> jcranmer: pong, but i need to leave again in a few minutes
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# [23:44] <jdm> anybody know where the profiles for web apps are stored?
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# [23:44] <jcranmer> decoder: ah, ping me when you get back then
# [23:45] <decoder> jcranmer: okay will do! =)
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# [23:47] <jdm> felipe: you've been doing apps runtime work, haven't you?
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# [23:51] <espindola> silly question, where do I find the minidump from a local crash?
# [23:52] <espindola> of firefox, not xpcshell
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# [23:52] <dherman> has anyone else filed on this yet: http://www.apple.com/iphone/ is broken in nightly
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# [23:52] <Jesse> espindola: "minidumps" folder in the firefox profile
# [23:53] <Jesse> espindola: or if you run firefox through automation.py it should tell you and run minidump_stackwalk for you
# [23:53] <espindola> Jesse, it is empty. Do I need to set some variable to keep it?
# [23:55] <Jesse> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Environment_variables_affecting_crash_reporting
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# [23:55] <espindola> thanks
# [23:55] <cjones> ehsan, ping
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# [23:59] <dbuc> any way we can get an eye or response to this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744109
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# [23:59] <dbuc> basically a 100% fail case, the developers I work with in web dev say that this issue is cross platfom too
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