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# Session Start: Thu Sep 13 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <dbuc> basically, our "Unresponsive Script" dialog is only slightly better than useless...
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# [00:00] <@ehsan> cjones: yo
# [00:00] <dbuc> which can cause me to cry at the screen on occasion
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# [00:01] <mbrubeck> dbuc: The best way to get action on that would be to include steps to reproduce, ideally with a minimal test case.
# [00:01] <KWierso|Home> it's always stopped it for me, fwiw
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# [00:01] <cjones> hey ehsan, have a minute to look at something?
# [00:01] <dbuc> well for me, it is load any thing that causes it to be raised
# [00:01] <dbuc> as in
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# [00:01] <dbuc> literally anything
# [00:01] <mbrubeck> I know you say that it's "a 100% fail" case but my experience is the opposite.
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# [00:02] <jdm> dbuc: you're probably trying to stop scripts that are abusing setTimeout/setInterval
# [00:02] <jdm> the dialog will cancel the current iteration, nothing more
# [00:02] <@ehsan> cjones: sure
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# [00:02] <gps> from a user's perspective, I don't care. I just see a non-responsive browser and that is bad
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# [00:03] <mbrubeck> dbuc: For example, it works as intended on this test case: http://limpet.net/test/loop.html
# [00:03] <sid0> dbuc: the dialog works fine on irccloud
# [00:03] <cjones> ehsan, awesome, thanks. here's the log from switching from one m-c clone to another in repo, re: email thread: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1818381
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# [00:03] <cjones> ehsan, the repo sync, i mean.
# [00:03] <mbrubeck> so if you have cases where it *doesn't* work, it would be useful to examine them specifically.
# [00:03] <@ehsan> ok
# [00:03] * @ehsan looks
# [00:03] <dbuc> checking
# [00:03] <cjones> ehsan, it succeeded, and i'm rebuilding
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# [00:03] <@ehsan> cjones: so do you know what repo does under the hood?
# [00:03] <cjones> but i wanted to know if there's anything you can infer from the log that might give pause
# [00:03] <cjones> not a clue :)
# [00:03] <@ehsan> (haven't looked at the email thread yet)
# [00:03] <@ehsan> heh, ok
# [00:03] <cjones> i was hoping you could deduce from the log
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# [00:04] <@ehsan> let me spend a few minutes eyeballing it
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# [00:04] <dbuc> ok so basically, anything that is more complex than a basic loop
# [00:04] <cjones> but anyway, it works
# [00:04] <dbuc> Ill try to make one
# [00:04] <dbuc> we should give them a nuke though
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# [00:04] <dbuc> can we do a "kill tab"
# [00:04] <dbuc> like close the tab associated?
# [00:04] <@ehsan> cjones: so it _seems_ like it's doing a git pull
# [00:05] <mbrubeck> dbuc: yeah, that sounds like a good idea.
# [00:05] <jdm> dbuc: that doesn't sound like a terrible idea
# [00:05] <@ehsan> cjones: but the "discarding N commits" thing at the end is interesting
# [00:05] <dbuc> Chrome will give you that weird crash tab frowny face after a certain # of runs
# [00:05] <@ehsan> cjones: is repo open source?
# [00:05] <dbuc> I can spec it and attach it to this bug if that would help?
# [00:06] <cjones> ehsan, absolutely
# [00:06] <@ehsan> http://code.google.com/p/git-repo/
# [00:06] <@ehsan> ok
# [00:06] <@ehsan> let me delve through the code to make sure :)
# [00:07] <cjones> ehsan, to save you some time, this is the code that appears to implement sync
# [00:07] <cjones> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1818383
# [00:07] <cjones> (it's sync.py)
# [00:07] <mwu> ehsan: our last m-c repo switch went ok, so I suspect this should be fine too
# [00:07] <cjones> i'll take a look too but i'm not a wizard
# [00:07] <mwu> this isn't the first time we're doing this
# [00:07] <cjones> right
# [00:07] <@ehsan> hmm good point
# [00:07] <cjones> i mentioned that in the email thread
# [00:07] <@ehsan> mwu: do you know that it actually got rid of the old commits?
# [00:07] <mwu> I doubt it does
# [00:07] <@ehsan> cjones: haven't had time to look at the thread yet :)
# [00:07] <cjones> no worries
# [00:08] <@ehsan> mwu: so, does it do a pull or a fetch?
# [00:08] <mwu> I think it does things separately - fetch then checkout
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# [00:08] <mwu> but that's just from my observation of how it works
# [00:08] <mwu> haven't actually looked at the code
# [00:10] <@ehsan> hmm
# [00:10] <cjones> so it definitely looks like it starts with a fetch
# [00:10] <@ehsan> mwu: cjones: looking at the code it looks like it does a fetch
# [00:10] <cjones> but need to chase down the update
# [00:10] <cjones> :)
# [00:10] <cjones> the local update is done in a different file than i pastebin'd
# [00:11] <mbrubeck> dbuc: Yes, or open a new bug for the "offer to close tab with unresponsive script" idea.
# [00:11] * cjones suspects this would be happier as a 100-line makefile :/
# [00:11] <mwu> but it seems like we could get the same result having releng take over ehsan's repo with less churn
# [00:11] <mbrubeck> dbuc: Asa's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397394 mentions a similar idea
# [00:11] <@ehsan> mwu: impossible -- I've tried convincing them for a year
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# [00:11] <@ehsan> mwu: and I finally gave up :)
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# [00:12] <cjones> ehsan, it checks out
# [00:12] <@ehsan> cjones: this is the local part: http://code.google.com/searchframe#1XX15hRBdk0/project.py&q=Sync_LocalHalf%20package:git-repo%5C.googlecode%5C.com&l=975
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# [00:12] <@ehsan> cjones: I can't claim to understand it all but it looks sane
# [00:12] <cjones> yep
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# [00:12] <cjones> that's where i am
# [00:13] <@ehsan> cjones: http://code.google.com/searchframe#1XX15hRBdk0/project.py&q=Sync_LocalHalf%20package:git-repo%5C.googlecode%5C.com&l=1007
# [00:13] <@ehsan> cjones: I guess we're golden :)
# [00:13] <@ehsan> and I must say, repo seems pretty magical, I should try it out
# [00:13] <cjones> on the repo side, anyway :/
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# [00:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01fb250fbba1 - Christian Vielma - Bug 756505 - Implement DOM_KEY_LOCATION_JOYSTICK for Android game controllers. r=cpeterson
# [00:13] <cjones> it plugs a lot of holes in git submodules
# [00:13] <@ehsan> cjones: so here's my idea
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# [00:14] <@ehsan> cjones: someone should create an alternate remote
# [00:14] <@ehsan> (could be local, I mean git remote)
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# [00:14] <@ehsan> then pull in my repo
# [00:14] <@ehsan> set up the repo manifest to point to that remote
# [00:14] <@ehsan> repo sync
# [00:14] <mwu> repo is a lot more flexible for our use cases than git submodules
# [00:14] <@ehsan> then reset the remote to releng's mirror
# [00:15] <@ehsan> then repo sync
# [00:15] <mwu> git submodules is just too much work 95% of the time
# [00:15] <@ehsan> and verify that the old commits are gine
# [00:15] <@ehsan> *gone
# [00:15] <@ehsan> mwu: right
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# [00:15] <@ehsan> cjones: the verification can be potentially running git gc --aggressive and see if the commits from my mirror survive
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# [00:16] <cjones> ehsan, sorry, what's that intended to do?
# [00:16] <gps> gc --aggressive only prunes days - 14 by default or something
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# [00:16] <cjones> git submodules does 99% of what anyone needs, but apparently the git devs don't want to add that 1%
# [00:16] <cjones> real shame
# [00:16] <gps> you need to throw a --prune on there
# [00:16] <cjones> so everyone has to end up writing their own repo-alike
# [00:16] <cjones> and i guess google got there first
# [00:16] <cjones> or rather, android
# [00:16] <@ehsan> cjones: make sure that the commits from my mirror are gone after we repo sync from releng's mirror
# [00:16] <gps> cjones: I've seen a lot of submodules improvements in the Git changelog
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# [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/541a789f3912 - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 644734; r=gps
# [00:21] <cjones> ehsan, the commits aren't stripped
# [00:21] <cjones> but, "meh"
# [00:22] <cjones> if i add your clone as a remote and then fetch, it doesn't download anything and i can checkout sha1s from your remote
# [00:22] <@ehsan> cjones: ok, but I guess given the fact that the branches are rebased, nobody cares about the old commits any more
# [00:22] <cjones> yeah, but it's just taking up some disk space
# [00:22] <@ehsan> cjones: but your branches _are_ rebased, right?
# [00:22] <cjones> do you think they might cause problems?
# [00:23] <@ehsan> I'm not worried about disk space :)
# [00:23] <@ehsan> I'm worried about having multiple lines of history
# [00:23] <@ehsan> which _can_ cause problems
# [00:23] <sid0> XML Parsing Error: unexpected parser state
# [00:23] <sid0> Location: jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Nightly/omni.ja!/chrome/toolkit/content/global/netError.xhtml
# [00:23] <sid0> Line Number 311, Column 58:
# [00:23] <@ehsan> if you do a git log, you see no merge commit on top, right?
# [00:23] <sid0> ugh
# [00:23] <@ehsan> cjones: ^
# [00:23] <cjones> ehsan, correct
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# [00:24] <@ehsan> cjones: then we're good to go
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# [00:24] <cjones> ehsan, thanks for the check
# [00:25] <@ehsan> sure thing
# [00:25] <sid0> is there a bug filed about that? ^
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# [00:39] <@ehsan> what should one add to the mozconfig to get the fail on warnings behavior?
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# [00:40] <KWierso|Home> ehsan: ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors
# [00:40] <@ehsan> ty
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# [00:41] <sicking> ddahl: ping
# [00:41] <ddahl> sicking: pong
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# [00:42] <sicking> ddahl: yay, glad the permission patch is coming along
# [00:42] <sicking> ddahl: but you still haven't addressed my comments
# [00:42] <ddahl> sicking: ok, will revisit those comments, sorry
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# [00:44] <sicking> ddahl: ok, just wasn't sure if you were disagreeing with them or hadn't seen them
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# [00:46] <ddahl> sicking: not at all, just getting some concrete tests to pass was my preoccupation, in the mean time, I am hoping gregor can review the interplay between this patch and his in bug 770731
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# [00:46] <sicking> ddahl: ok. Generally speaking you shouldn't r? a patch until it's ready. Use the feedback? flag instead
# [00:47] <ddahl> sicking: i will change that now
# [00:49] <erasmas> is there a document describing the behavior of window.history.go in firefox? I have a case where it always loads the right page but only sometimes updates the back button history list
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# [00:50] <sicking> ddahl: cool, thanks, sorry, i was just continuously confused about the status of the patch
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# [00:51] <ddahl> sicking: np. I was aware that it did not %&#!!! work at all until an hour ago;)
# [00:51] <sicking> ddahl: heh
# [00:52] <sicking> ddahl: what is the new code in updateApps trying to do?
# [00:52] <sicking> i don't think it's doing anything at all
# [00:52] <ddahl> hmm
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# [00:52] <Ameya> Could you please look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790781
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# [00:54] <Ameya> There could be some problem in latest changes made at http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central . its coming while compiling FF.
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# [00:55] <ddahl> sicking: it should be looking for permissions that are not in the new manifest and setting them to unknown. of course, that is not going to work because I am not expanding the permissions form the manifest to map to real perm names
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# [00:55] <ddahl> s/from/form
# [00:56] <Ameya> i got this error when i tried to compile after doing hg pull -u
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# [00:57] <padenot> Ameya: you can try removing your objdir and trying to compile again
# [00:58] <Ameya> ok
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# [01:01] <biesi> Ameya, can you attach your mozconfig to the bug?
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# [01:03] <biesi> Ameya, also what's your gcc version?
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# [01:08] <markh> is there some trick for effectively working with mercurial queues on a m-c clone, but magically using that same patch queue to push to inbound?
# [01:08] <jhammel> there may be several tricks ;)
# [01:08] <markh> heh
# [01:08] <markh> is there a "favorite* trick? :)
# [01:08] * jhammel gets the feeling everyone uses VCS slightly differently
# [01:09] <jhammel> markh: well *my* trick is just `hg import path/to/patch` from inbound
# [01:09] <markh> I use qimport, but that has too much friction for my teste
# [01:09] <jhammel> probably someone else will say that is wrong and that there is something even better
# [01:09] <@dbaron> I just pull m-i into my m-c clone
# [01:09] <@dbaron> just be careful to push the right head when that matters
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# [01:09] <KaiRo> mark: I guess you can set up an hg repo for your queue and use that to sync the two locations :)
# [01:10] <markh> dbaron: right - but yeah, that sounds scary and too easy for me to screw up :)
# [01:10] <dholbert> markh, I do what KaiRo said, and it works well
# [01:10] <jhammel> i actually dislike/distrust qfinish
# [01:10] <jhammel> so i avoid that
# [01:10] <jhammel> well, i don't distrust it
# [01:10] <jhammel> i distrust myself using it correctly ;)
# [01:10] <dholbert> it just looks shifty...
# [01:10] <dholbert> can't trust that qfinish guy
# [01:11] <jhammel> well, IIRC, once you've qfinished it is a PITA to undo that
# [01:11] <markh> kinda like those qfrench guys ;)
# [01:11] <dholbert> it's less of a PITA than it used to be
# [01:11] <@dbaron> jhammel, hg qimport -r
# [01:11] <sfink> qfinish means "delete .hg/patches/status and the corresponding lines in .hg/patches/series"
# [01:11] <@dbaron> (and then hg qrename)
# [01:11] <sfink> qpush is what's scary :-)
# [01:11] <dholbert> jhammel, "hg import -r tip" always works if you've just qfinished one patch
# [01:12] <markh> I think I'll give the "store mq in its own repo" option a go - thanks all!
# [01:12] <dholbert> markh, I highly recommend that
# [01:12] <@dbaron> markh, oh, absolutely
# [01:12] <@dbaron> markh, and back up frequently
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# [01:12] <@dbaron> markh, see, e.g., https://hg.mozilla.org/users/dbaron_mozilla.com/patches/ , which is past 10000 changesets
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# [01:13] <markh> wow - but keeping it on hg.mozilla.org is a great idea too. Now to google how to track the mq rather than just skimming over that detail...
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# [01:13] <@dbaron> (5.5 years, 10550 csets, just under 2000 csets per year on average)
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# [01:14] <sfink> then you can go nuts by installing the mqext extension so that it autocommits your changes constantly, together with enough info to rollback to any past state
# [01:14] <@dbaron> in other words, I back up what I'm doing on average 8 times per workday
# [01:14] <dholbert> markh, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Creating_Mercurial_User_Repositories#Mercurial_Queue_User_Repository_Workflow
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# [01:15] <dholbert> markh, (for how to set up a hg.mozilla.org-hosted repo and have that be your patch queue)
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# [01:16] <dholbert> [/me notices the "--mq" argument in that page -- never saw that before, that'd save me a lot of "cd .hg/patches" commands]
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# [01:17] <@dbaron> dholbert, alias mq='hg -R$(hg root)/.hg/patches'
# [01:17] <markh> sfink: one step at a time :)
# [01:17] <dholbert> dbaron, yeah, I had that at one point -- looks like it's built in now, though
# [01:17] <@dbaron> dholbert, yeah, but it's built in with 5 extra characters
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# [01:18] <dholbert> dbaron, :)
# [01:18] <@dbaron> "mq" vs "hg --mq"
# [01:18] <sfink> --mq is only useful for commands that don't look for the repo root. hg cat --mq, for example, is useless
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# [01:18] <dholbert> dbaron, "alias m=mq"
# [01:18] <dholbert> boom, saved you a character
# [01:18] <@dbaron> dholbert, that's for "mutt"
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# [01:19] <dholbert> daww
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# [01:19] <jgilbert> 'M'? :P
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# [01:20] <@dbaron> め?
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# [01:20] <jgilbert> ah, of course
# [01:20] <philor> mmm, that's fun, not only are we failing tests on 10.8 on beta where we don't know what the locale is, we're also failing tests on 10.8 which are disabled on 10.8
# [01:21] <dholbert> philor, sounds like we need to disable them harder
# [01:23] <philor> dholbert: or stop switching the UA string in mid-run, or stop failing to match the same regex that has already matched three times during the run
# [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a8de7b56b0 - David Chan - Bug 790795 - mozApps.installPackage doesn't call onsuccess/onerror handlers [r=fabrice]
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# [01:24] <philor> well, indexOf, not regex
# [01:25] <philor> but apparently "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:16.0) Gecko/20120912 Firefox/16.0".indexOf("Mac OS X 10.8") == -1, some of the time
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# [01:32] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> RyanVM: did you have a go with my greasemonkey script in the end?
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# [01:33] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: haven't had the time
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# [01:34] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> and gives you a link to compare them.
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# [02:05] <jaws> ehsan: hi
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# [02:05] <jaws> ehsan: formatValue is used to color the url in the address bar
# [02:05] <jaws> can nsIURI split apart the subdomain from the base domain?
# [02:06] <@ehsan> jaws: ok. can you please explain a little bit on what it does under the hood?
# [02:06] <decoder> jcranmer: back
# [02:06] <@ehsan> jaws: depends on what you mean by the subdomain and base domain
# [02:06] <bsmith> taras: what is the bug number for the exit() at shutdown, and did that land?
# [02:06] <jaws> subdomain=www. domain=mozilla.org
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# [02:07] <@ehsan> jaws: ah, you're supposed to use nsIEffectiveTLDService for that
# [02:07] <@ehsan> which gives you the effective tld
# [02:07] <jaws> yeah, we can use that, and we do
# [02:07] <@ehsan> so, eTLD+1 would be your domain
# [02:07] <@ehsan> ok
# [02:07] <jaws> see baseDomain = Services.eTLD.getBaseDomainFromHost(domain);
# [02:07] <bsmith> It's bug 699874
# [02:07] <@ehsan> jaws: right
# [02:07] <jaws> and then we need to get the part before that
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# [02:07] <@ehsan> jaws: but what are all of those regex's doing?
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# [02:08] <jaws> ehsan: stuff they shouldn't need to do
# [02:08] <@ehsan> jaws: good! ;)
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# [02:08] <jaws> ehsan: the eTLD server converts IDN domains to punycode though
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# [02:08] <@ehsan> oh
# [02:08] <jaws> so it breaks if we try to do simple string.splice on the domain using the baseDomain
# [02:08] <@ehsan> I see
# [02:08] <@ehsan> let me look around a bit
# [02:09] <jaws> so that's why my patch has a fallback to use these bad regexp
# [02:09] <jaws> i didn't introduce the regexp, i made them only be used as a catch-all
# [02:09] <@ehsan> yeah I know
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# [02:10] <@ehsan> jaws: at first glance, I don't see anything that converts the input to punycode here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/nsEffectiveTLDService.cpp#139
# [02:10] <jaws> i could extend the eTLD service to return a baseDomain without converting to punycode, but i'm not sure if that will generate fully correct results
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# [02:10] <jaws> ehsan: see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/nsEffectiveTLDService.cpp#127
# [02:11] <jaws> it's subtle ;)
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# [02:11] <@ehsan> hmm right
# [02:11] <@ehsan> jaws: couldn't you use http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/nsEffectiveTLDService.cpp#66 ?
# [02:11] <@ehsan> which seems to bypass the normalization
# [02:12] <@ehsan> (ideally, you should never use strings, just nsIURIs)
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# [02:13] <jaws> ehsan: does GetAsciiHost convert to punycode?
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# [02:13] <NeilAway> jaws: iirc it should do
# [02:13] <@ehsan> jaws: maybe, need to look at the code
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# [02:14] <jaws> it uses polymorphism, so hard to follow without running in my debugger
# [02:14] <jaws> but that specific function is called at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/nsEffectiveTLDService.cpp#75
# [02:14] <@ehsan> jaws: worst case, you can just add the function that you want to the etld service
# [02:14] <jaws> hehe yeah
# [02:14] <@ehsan> jaws: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsSimpleURI.cpp#542
# [02:14] <@ehsan> :D
# [02:14] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [02:14] <@ehsan> wrong function
# [02:14] <jaws> yeah i saw that, but assumed wrong function
# [02:14] <@dolske> eTLD's api has bugged me a few times, there's room for improvement I'm sure
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# [02:15] <@ehsan> jaws: sadface http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsStandardURL.cpp#1077
# [02:15] <jaws> hence why polymorphism is hard without attaching a debugger ;)
# [02:15] <@ehsan> jaws: (things like http uris are implemented by nsStandardURL
# [02:15] <jaws> i'm not sure if bypassing punycode will break correctness
# [02:15] <@ehsan> well
# [02:15] <@ehsan> so can't you convert back to UTF-8 though?
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# [02:16] <jaws> i could convert back, yes, but will need to extend eTLD api
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# [02:16] <@ehsan> jaws: or rather, just use GetHost() later on?
# [02:16] <jaws> actually, not eTLD
# [02:16] <jaws> there is a separate service to use for converting back, and it's already public
# [02:16] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [02:16] <@ehsan> so, problem solved then?
# [02:16] <jaws> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/nsIIDNService.idl
# [02:17] <benjamin> is there less coalesing on m-i now?
# [02:17] <jaws> yeah, i can do the refactoring
# [02:17] <@ehsan> oh great
# [02:17] <@ehsan> benjamin: no
# [02:17] <@ehsan> jaws++
# [02:17] * jaws waves to benjamin
# [02:17] <benjamin> hi, jared
# [02:17] <@ehsan> jaws: really, formatValue should just be: use platform stuff for uri munching + set the selections
# [02:17] <benjamin> how's frontend fairy-land?
# [02:17] <@ehsan> jaws: and IMVHO, it should not be called formatValue :)
# [02:18] <@ehsan> cause that's not what it does at all
# [02:18] <jaws> haha, lots of rainbows and unicorns benjamin
# [02:18] <benjamin> unicorns with poop?
# [02:18] <jaws> ehsan: maybe, highlightValue?
# [02:18] <@ehsan> jaws: also, props for changing something and then profiling to see if it improved things :) very well done
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# [02:18] <jwir3> I once knew a security (retail, not software) manager that used to say "Rainbows and puppy dogs, smiles for miles." Every time I passed him
# [02:18] <@ehsan> jaws: sure
# [02:18] <jwir3> I think he was a little nuts, or possibly high all the time.
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# [02:19] <jaws> ehsan: well, to be fair, this whole bug is about the profiler :D
# [02:19] <@ehsan> jwir3: or, had worked on gecko in his past life
# [02:19] <jwir3> haha true
# [02:19] <@ehsan> jaws: it's true :)
# [02:19] <benjamin> jwir3: maybe he was trying to ward you off?
# [02:19] <@ehsan> jaws: still, nice to see that it's being used to make the front-end faster
# [02:19] <jaws> yes, it is :)
# [02:20] <jwir3> benjamin: Yeah, probably. I was probably what he would consider a negative influence. :)
# [02:20] <@ehsan> cool
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# [02:20] <@ehsan> jaws: so do you need me more here? need to attend to some real life stuff :)
# [02:20] * jaws heads to bed
# [02:20] <jaws> nope, i'm good. thanks for the offer ehsan
# [02:20] <@ehsan> hehe
# [02:20] <@ehsan> jaws: any time!
# [02:20] <@ehsan> jaws: let me know if you need help with this kind of stuff in the future :)
# [02:20] <jaws> will do
# [02:21] <benjamin> say hi to MattN for me
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# [02:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5a0a98d11dbe - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 785720 - Move the MathML token frame leading/trailing whitespace trimming logic to nsTextFrame; r=roc,a=lsblakk
# [02:24] <MattN> hey benjamin!
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# [02:27] <benjamin> MattN: how's the crypto mumbo jumbo?
# [02:28] <MattN> benjamin: I'm working on Australis tabs now
# [02:28] <benjamin> MattN: did browserid land
# [02:28] <benjamin> ?
# [02:29] <MattN> benjamin: yes, preffed off
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# [02:29] <MattN> dom.identity.enabled
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# [02:30] <MattN> only works with the newer BrowserID Observer API so I wouldn't recommend it for everyday browsing
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# [02:31] <benjamin> you unleaked it, I assume?
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# [02:35] <MattN> benjamin: still needs to do more cleanup a la bug 769862
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# [02:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/657097e4f430 - Jesse Ruderman - Bug 790781 - fix bustage from bug 714358.
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# [02:38] <cpeterson> hg question: I landed a patch with a typo in the bug number. What is the policy/procedure for correcting changeset descriptions?
# [02:38] <benjamin> usually back it out and reland
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# [02:39] <cpeterson> thanks, benjamin.
# [02:39] <Jesse> we should make bug numbers 20 digits so people aren't tempted to type by hand what they should paste
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# [02:39] <cpeterson> GUIDs?
# [02:39] * benjamin has definitely pasted the wrong bug number
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# [02:43] <mbrubeck> When I see one of those, I usually just comment in the "wrong" bug with a pointer to the right one.
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# [02:45] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, unfortunately the wrong bug number is a security bug so I even have read access, let alone write access to redirect people to the other bug. <:)
# [02:45] <mbrubeck> heh
# [02:45] <cpeterson> s/I even/I don't even/
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# [02:48] <Jesse> on the plus side, security researchers (who look for changesets associated with private bugs) will see your patch and get distracted
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# [02:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3875fa9aaec1 - Chris Peterson - Bug 756504 - Implement DOM_KEY_LOCATION_JOYSTICK for Android game controllers. r=cpeterson
# [02:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ce2ffdf1121 - Chris Peterson - Backout 01fb250fbba1 (changeset description should have said bug 756504, not bug 756505). a=oops
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# [02:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5a65da34f1d - David Chan - date: Wed Sep 12 17:26:44 2012 -0700
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# [03:01] <RyanVM> fabrice: please hg out before pushing ;)
# [03:01] <fabrice> RyanVM: backout + new patch coming
# [03:01] <fabrice> sorry
# [03:01] <bent> ehsan, ping
# [03:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/733502ee9d08 - Fabrice Desré - Backed out changeset f5a65da34f1d
# [03:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/462d7c9e496b - David Chan - Bug 790815 - appStatus is not properly set for packaged apps [r=fabrice]
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# [03:12] <RyanVM> fabrice: do NOT cancel builds on tbpl
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# [03:12] <fabrice> RyanVM: sorry, but why?
# [03:12] <RyanVM> fabrice: when you do that, it leaves the builder in a broken state
# [03:12] <RyanVM> requiring a clobber
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# [03:13] <fabrice> so why is-it enable?
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# [03:13] <RyanVM> tbpl should pop up an ugly warning about it
# [03:14] <fabrice> it doesn't
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# [03:14] <bent> it's fine on try
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# [03:14] <bent> just not on anything else
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# [03:14] <fabrice> I thought i would actually save resources :(
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# [03:16] <RyanVM> fabrice: I sure see a warning...
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# [03:16] <RyanVM> fabrice: http://www.ryanvm.net/files/tbpl.png
# [03:16] <fabrice> RyanVM: I went to the self-serve API page for the build, and canceled it. no warning
# [03:16] <RyanVM> ah
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# [03:16] <RyanVM> self-serve isn't tbpl ;)
# [03:17] <RyanVM> you shouldn't be using self-serve under normal circumstances...
# [03:18] <RyanVM> fabrice: and the reason it's enabled is because there are times when a sheriff will legitimately want to cancel a build
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# [03:18] <RyanVM> and does so understanding what needs to be done afterwards
# [03:18] <@ehsan> bent: hey
# [03:18] <fabrice> RyanVM: That's fine. But non-sheriffs should just not be able to do that
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# [03:20] <bent> ehsan, hey, i think unping :-/
# [03:20] <bent> sorry
# [03:20] <bent> this isn't your fault
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# [03:20] <bent> ;)
# [03:20] <RyanVM> fabrice: in general, I would argue that non-sheriff's should avoid self-serve and stick to using tbpl
# [03:20] <RyanVM> fabrice: but anyway, no harm no foul. I already clobbered inbound, so we shoudl be OK
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# [03:23] <@dolske> $ hg qpop -a
# [03:23] <@dolske> abort: popping would remove an immutable revision
# [03:23] <@dolske> D:
# [03:24] <WG9s> fabrice: well you seem to be complaining that you have been granted privs that you are not sure you deserve, but you understand there are additional responsibilites with them.
# [03:24] <nattokirai_> you pushed to try?
# [03:24] <nattokirai_> dolske: ^
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# [03:24] <@dolske> nattokirai_: yeah
# [03:24] <WG9s> since you have that understanding could be exactly why you were granted the privliges.
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# [03:24] <@dolske> nattokirai_: did something break?
# [03:25] <nattokirai_> dolske: no, there's some silly posthook you need to add
# [03:25] <hobophobe> After pushing to try you have to do something funky like |hg phase --force --draft "mq()"| so you can pop it
# [03:25] <Mossop> dolske: You're running a newer version of mercurial now, a "smarter" version!
# [03:25] <nattokirai_> lemme dig up the details
# [03:25] <fabrice> WG9s: in this case, I had no idea that canceling a build was worse than wasting resources to let it run a bazillion tests
# [03:25] <@dolske> Mossop: *facepalm*
# [03:25] <WG9s> fabrice: but you know that now.
# [03:25] <nattokirai_> dolske: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
# [03:25] <hobophobe> which, as nattokirai_ says, you can do "post-push=" (that) to have it happen automagically
# [03:25] <nattokirai_> right, the details are on the try server page
# [03:25] <@dolske> I was going to say, the best part is that the top changeset is an empty one with just trychooser message
# [03:26] <WG9s> and understand the extra privileges you have give you abilites you need to be careful with. and you figured this out yourself.
# [03:26] <@ehsan> bent: it's ok :)
# [03:26] <WG9s> somethimes that is who things work here oddly enough.
# [03:26] <nattokirai_> the ever-so-natural 'hg phase --force --draft "mq()"'
# [03:26] <RyanVM> fabrice: btw, fwiw, canceling only applied to builds. You can safely cancel tests
# [03:26] <fabrice> RyanVM: good to know!
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# [03:27] <WG9s> fabrice: you have the power but understand you need to use it wisely.
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# [03:27] <nattokirai_> dolske: sorry, command-line fix is 'hg phase -f --draft qbase:tip'
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# [03:29] <@dolske> nattokirai_: \o/ thanks so much!
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# [03:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42d6da7912e1 - Christian Vielma - Bug 756504 - Implement DOM_KEY_LOCATION_JOYSTICK for Android game controllers. r=cpeterson
# [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc8901acd1e8 - Chris Peterson - Backout 3875fa9aaec1 (changeset author is Christian Vielma, not Chris Peterson). a=oops
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# [03:34] <WG9s> fabrice: you don;t undesrstand why you were given such privs, but the fact that you were able to screw someting up and you take the balme for doing it and have learned not do do so next time means you really probably deserve to have been given that priveige.
# [03:34] <@dolske> oh, is it still lecture o'clock?
# [03:34] <WG9s> that is all anyone here does anyone who has privs can screwthings up.
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# [03:35] <WG9s> and probasbly has
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# [03:36] <WG9s> the fact that you think you have mnore power thatn you deserve and are now going to be more careful about what yuou do probably means the privileges were deserved.
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# [03:38] <mbrubeck> This is a case where we have poorly-documented foot-guns lying around, and I can't really blame people for not magically knowing all their ins and outs.
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# [03:38] <@dolske> mbrubeck++
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# [03:39] <mbrubeck> I mean, we link to self-serve right from TBPL, but there's no user's guide or training that tells anyone which things are buggy.
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# [03:39] <mbrubeck> And this *is* a bug in our infrastructure. There's no reason that cancelling a build should silently leave the builder in a potentially-broken state.
# [03:40] <RyanVM> ++
# [03:40] <@dolske> DOMWINDOW
# [03:40] <dholbert> dolske, did you figure out how to fix your hg phase thing?
# [03:40] <WG9s> mbrubeck perahsp cancelling a build should make that builder do a clobber next time or something.
# [03:41] <dholbert> dolske, "hg phase --force --draft qbase" seems to be the magic bullet for me
# [03:41] <mbrubeck> WG9s: Yeah, that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658934
# [03:41] <@dolske> dholbert: I did! Well, more accurately, nattokirai_ told me. :)
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# [03:41] <dholbert> ah right
# [03:41] <mbrubeck> which should be possible to fix now that the blocking bug 697101 is landed...
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# [03:42] <WG9s> mbrubeck: added me to cc list
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# [03:42] <mbrubeck> hmm, actually the "add a REST API" part of bug 697101 never happened
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# [03:45] <jwatt> edwin: can you r+ again? sorry about that
# [03:46] <gps> dolske: just disable phases by adding to your .hg/hgrc: [phases] publish = False
# [03:46] <dholbert> gps, oh that's awesome
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# [03:46] <dholbert> er, gps: can that go in $HOME/.hgrc ?
# [03:46] <gps> I'm sure it could
# [03:46] <dholbert> or does it need to be a per-repo thing?
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# [03:47] <gps> I just don't like globally disabling things. phases is arguably a useful feature. it just doesn't play well with Try
# [03:48] <jcranmer> I just made a script for pushing to try
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# [04:01] <jwir3> has anyone gotten this while trying to update backwards to a previous rev on m-c: abort: revlog decompress error: Error -3 while decompressing data: invalid distance too far back!
# [04:01] <jwir3> ?
# [04:01] <jwir3> I can't seem to interpret what it means... I'm trying to update to a revision on June 5
# [04:02] <@dolske> corrupted repo, or maybe you started from a bundle instead of a full clone?
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# [04:02] * @dolske doesn't know for sure, never seen that
# [04:02] <RyanVM> jwir3: I usually just make a new mq patch and hg revert -r <cset>, hg qref
# [04:03] <jwir3> RyanVM: hmmm... yeah, that's a good idea.
# [04:03] <Unfocused> or if you're doing it via relative changeset positions, giving it a number greater than how many changesets there are?
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# [04:04] <jwir3> RyanVM: That's probably not going to work for bisecting, though, is it?
# [04:04] <RyanVM> jwir3: it can
# [04:04] <RyanVM> the joys of mq!
# [04:05] <Unfocused> er, you're not using hg bisect?
# [04:05] <jwir3> yeah, I am.
# [04:05] <Unfocused> oh
# [04:05] <jwir3> is there a better tool?
# [04:06] * jwir3 is perhaps living in the stone ages... he thought hg bisect was the tool to use
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# [04:07] <Unfocused> eh, its pretty good. there is a script floating around that does builds for you too (i think) if you want it a bit more automated... by harth, i think
# [04:07] <Unfocused> (not that i've used it)
# [04:07] <Unfocused> still, that probably won't fix your immediate problem :)
# [04:08] <RyanVM> jwir3: with mq, at least you're a qpop away from having a clean slate to revert from again
# [04:08] <RyanVM> i've done bisecting on Try that way
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# [04:09] <RyanVM> jwir3: but yeah, it means you have to keep track of the good and bad csets yourself
# [04:09] <jwir3> yeah
# [04:09] <RyanVM> which I guess hg bisect normally does for you
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# [04:10] <Unfocused> jwir3: a sanity check of your repo might be useful, fwiw: hg verify
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# [04:11] <jwir3> Unfocused: OK, that's a good piece of advice. I'll see what that tells me
# [04:11] <jwir3> thanks
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# [04:14] <jwir3> Unfocused: So it does appear that there are corruptions.
# [04:14] <jwir3> Unfocused: Is there a way to make them un-corrupt, or must I simply re-clone?
# [04:15] <Unfocused> ah :\ only way i know of is to reclone
# [04:15] <jwir3> ok, thanks
# [04:15] <WG9s> dolnt do a clone
# [04:16] <WG9s> download the bundle do aan inti then a pull and and update is faster than a clone
# [04:16] <WG9s> init not an intl
# [04:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efb706bd057c - Mark Hammond - Bug 787511 - rename SocialProvider._getWorkerPort to getWorkerPort, remove SocialProvider.port. r=jaws
# [04:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a1b8c9f1184 - Mark Hammond - Bug 788100 - Remove social.initialize-response message. r=jaws
# [04:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db504651197a - Mark Hammond - Bug 789859 - set consumeoutsideclicks on social toolbar panel for autoclose behaviour. r=jaws
# [04:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a63439012b3 - Mark Hammond - Bug 790488 - Add multiple-tabs to shareButton tests. r=jaws
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# [04:19] <WG9s> jwir3: so get ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bun dles/mozilla-central.hg
# [04:19] <WG9s> then do an hg init
# [04:19] <WG9s> and then an hg pull
# [04:19] <WG9s> and an hg update
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# [04:21] <WG9s> jwir3: go to this page and read the bundles section
# [04:21] <WG9s> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Mozilla_Source_Code_%28Mercurial%29
# [04:21] <WG9s> it is way faster (excedpt under windows where it is just going to be painfully slow no matter how you do it.
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# [04:22] <WG9s> b ecazuse windws newtwork perfomance sucks.
# [04:22] <jwir3> eh
# [04:22] <jwir3> a reclone on linux just finished, so it's not _too_ bad
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# [04:23] <WG9s> frolm the budle would have been faster in my experience
# [04:23] <WG9s> but then the way i do my builds because i try to mimic nightlyies
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# [04:24] <WG9s> is i get a new bundle once a week and then do an inti and a pull and update to do my builds daily
# [04:25] <WG9s> is way fater but even still. to get the windws builds anywhere near a searly i do them by getting my linus system all built then tar it up and scp the tar file to sindwos an utar it cause
# [04:25] <WG9s> anyting i do using hg on windows thakes orders of magnitude longer.
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# [04:34] <@dolske> grrrrrrdamnit.
# [04:34] <@dolske> I hate it when my build fails but I don't see any output indicating what happened.
# [04:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/657097e4f430 - Jesse Ruderman - Bug 790781 - fix bustage from bug 714358.
# [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a09d350021f0 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 787757 - Use INTERNET_PER_CONN_FLAGS_UI if available. r=jimm
# [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25b53713d895 - Yury - Bug 787820 - Can't open downloaded files directly. r=mak
# [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f41282beb20 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
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# [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fc5fbd5b9db - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ace13c6f5fc0 - Mike Habicher - Bug 790746
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# [04:38] * @dolske wonders if it's the "cp: ..... branding/nightly/dsstore are identical (not copied)."?
# [04:39] <@dolske> fantastic, it was. O_o
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# [04:40] <capella> would have guessed no
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# [04:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2bd4bc59452 - Vincent Chang - Bug 788081 - B2G tethering: correctly handle 1xx responses from netd. r=philikon
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# [04:45] <RyanVM> dolske: we had to clobber the trees for that a couple days ago
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# [04:52] <@dolske> ah. wonder what we changed in branding (or build) to cause that.
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# [05:00] <ewong> mbrubeck: ping
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# [05:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a911e226d42 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 788794. Use BitBlt to do SOURCE and OVER from RGB24 to ARGB32. r=nical
# [05:15] <mbrubeck> ewong: pong
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# [05:17] <ewong> mbrubeck: hi.. I have a patch for bug #790848.. but I dunno if I'm doing it right... you're the right person for review right?
# [05:17] <sawrubh> what's the url for the try server high score website
# [05:17] <Callek> sawrubh: http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html
# [05:19] * sawrubh likes the font used
# [05:19] <mbrubeck> ewong: philor|away handles those patches most often; I'd ask for his review maybe
# [05:19] <ewong> mbrubeck: ah ok. thanks!
# [05:19] <sawrubh> Callek: thanks
# [05:19] <Callek> np
# [05:20] <gps> how to reduce load on Try: change default trychooser value to not run any tests
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# [05:25] <@dolske> ...or charge $$$ per test run. ;)
# [05:26] * sawrubh will get others to push to try for him then
# [05:26] <mbrubeck> dolske++
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# [06:33] <philor> gah, "Android NoIon" is too wide
# [06:33] <philor> "b2g cuckoo"?
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# [06:34] <philor> Android !Ion? A4b2g-I?
# [06:35] <KWierso|Home> just drop all vowels
# [06:35] <philor> ndrdnn, perfect!
# [06:35] <KWierso|Home> as long as you know what it stands for, we're good, right?
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# [06:49] <ewong> ndrdnn?
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# [06:52] <@dolske> isn't there some unicode character for robot/android? :)
# [06:52] <glob> ewong, "Android NoIon" without vowels
# [06:53] <ewong> glob: oh.
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# [06:55] <ewong> that was dumb... I should've figured that out.. ;/
# [06:55] <glob> ☎
# [06:55] <glob> ewong, it's ok, no one saw
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# [06:57] <ewong> glob momentary lapse of brain-usage there
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# [07:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36d865c2f094 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 790535 - Fix a NullPointerException from accessing a not-fully-initialized LayerView. r=cpeterson
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# [07:00] <ewong> glob but it's logged.. o_O
# [07:00] <glob> logbot, <ewong> ndrdnn
# [07:00] <logbot> glob, found 1 result
# [07:00] <logbot> Sep 13 04:39 <ewong> ndrdnn?
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# [07:01] <glob> i see nothing.
# [07:01] <ewong> -.-
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# [07:01] <ewong> umm.. what a beautiful day today.... /me quietly slips away.
# [07:02] <@dolske> logbot, bacon
# [07:02] <logbot> dolske, found more than 20 results, showing 3
# [07:02] <logbot> Sep 11 07:06 <Mossop> Bacon SDK?
# [07:02] <logbot> Sep 1 2012 <darktrojan> bacon is relevant to #developers
# [07:02] <logbot> Sep 1 2012 <Ms2ger> Every channel is a bacon channel, heretic
# [07:02] <ewong> there's a Bacon SDK?
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# [07:06] <philor> ewong: sorry to stomp on your patch and review request, but that won't come close to fitting on the screen, and I need to land something quickly so I can piss off IT by raising the push-to-production bug to blocker :)
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# [07:10] <KWierso|Home> wait, how is android-noion too long, but android-armv6 fine?
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# [07:16] <njn> android-onion
# [07:16] <njn> andronion
# [07:17] <njn> andrion
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# [07:18] <njn> logbot, dolske
# [07:18] <logbot> njn, found more than 20 results, showing 3
# [07:18] <logbot> Sep 13 03:15 <mbrubeck> dolske++
# [07:18] <logbot> Sep 13 02:53 <nthomas> dolske: probably bug 786520 bouncing
# [07:18] <logbot> Sep 13 02:34 <RyanVM> dolske: we had to clobber the trees for that a couple days ago
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# [07:50] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/happy-bmo-push-day-13
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# [08:13] <@roc> sigh ... minimizing jquery
# [08:16] <KWierso|Home> oh right
# [08:16] <KWierso|Home> hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startdate=48+hours+ago&enddate=now won't load for a year because of the ionmonkey landing...
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# [08:16] * KWierso|Home thought hg.mo was down for a while
# [08:16] <@dbaron> can you start from the unminified instead of the minified, at least?
# [08:17] <@dbaron> KWierso|Home, for a year?
# [08:17] <KWierso|Home> dbaron: okay, fine.
# [08:17] <KWierso|Home> 33 seconds
# [08:17] <KWierso|Home> same difference
# [08:17] <@dbaron> KWierso|Home, oh, I thought you were saying it would be a year until the problem went away (rather than going away midday tomorrow as I'd expect)
# [08:18] <KWierso|Home> no, just the page load ETA
# [08:19] <philor> happy shift+reload your open tbpl tabs day!
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# [08:20] <KWierso|Home> philor: inbound and central tbpl tabs were only eating up 1.1GB of memory when I woke up this morning
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# [08:20] <philor> that's pretty sad, for a weekday, didn't anybody push anything during Europe's day?
# [08:21] <KWierso|Home> and, since the only tests I care about are all permaorange until someone can fix it, I just closed them all until I see the fix land
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# [08:30] <Callek> ...anyone have a recommendation for transferring a 4.3 GB file off my local windows computer to a mac snow-leopard system tahts behind a jumphost
# [08:30] <Callek> scp doesn't support files > 4GB, so I can't scp it over
# [08:30] <Callek> tar.bz2 compression gave me an ~300 MB file, so I'm not quite ready to trust it
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# [08:35] <KWierso|Home> Callek: ftp/sftp?
# [08:35] <Callek> can that operate like scp?
# [08:35] <Callek> as in without me needing to install a service locally/remotely
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# [08:37] <KWierso|Home> hrm, I don't think so
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# [09:02] <markh> putty comes with a pscp, but I'm not sure what limitations it has
# [09:03] <markh> hrm - as at 2007 it has trouble > 2gb apparently :(
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# [09:04] <Callek> philor: huh tegra-107? 784278
# [09:07] <philor> I just report 'em, I don't explain 'em
# [09:07] <markh> but putty 0.59 says it fixed that: "Bug fix: PSCP and PSFTP now support large files (greater than 4 gigabytes), provided the underlying operating system does too. "
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# [09:08] <markh> Callek: so might be worth trying that?
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# [09:08] <Callek> markh: thanks for the insight, I decided to login to apple store remotely and manually type in urls
# [09:08] <Callek> I was just trying to keep apple store creds off this machine
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# [09:11] <JonathanS> apple store creds?
# [09:12] <Callek> JonathanS: login to an account that has paid-stuff on it
# [09:13] <JonathanS> Callek, Real Apple Store is about 1 hr from my house. Closest one is two Apple specialists store.
# [09:13] <JonathanS> they always managed to rip me off.
# [09:13] <Callek> JonathanS: this machine is about a 6-7 hour flight from my house
# [09:13] <Callek> :-)
# [09:14] <Callek> + ~ an hour or two drive
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# [09:14] <JonathanS> Callek, $30 dollars for Diagnostic including $200 for new LCD panel.
# [09:14] <Callek> thats why I don't like apple -- too much vendor lock-in
# [09:14] <JonathanS> in 4 years old macbook
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# [09:16] <JonathanS> Callek, MS built a new store in about one block from Apple Store, they still do Windows Phone challenge and has Apple Employee color t-shirts
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# [09:22] <KWierso|Home> and they'll have ~30 popup stores for this holiday season around the US...
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# [09:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f36b93c70d05 - Olli Pettay - Bug 790589 - Add env variable to define the cc/gc log directory, r=mccr8
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# [10:37] <Callek> philor|away: edmorley: /me wonders what we chose re: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6561
# [10:37] <edmorley> Callek: AndroidNoIon and made the column wider :-( (http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/rev/23ba106f6d47#l2.12)
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# [10:38] <edmorley> not that there was much other choice
# [10:38] <edmorley> but least we can revert in a few more weeks :-)
# [10:38] <Callek> edmorley: yea
# [10:38] <ewong> ooh ooh.. bright yellow!
# [10:38] <ewong> (Android-NI)?
# [10:39] <Callek> edmorley: soo btw, you can wontfix your "hack TBPL for reftest hiding" bug
# [10:39] <edmorley> oh yeah forgot to do that
# [10:39] <Callek> edmorley: with aki's help we have a solution that works releng side without too much effort (surprisingly)
# [10:39] <edmorley> trying to debug issues with the tbpl prefetching (in production) atm :-(
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# [10:40] <Callek> Kim will deploy it in a few hours, along with turning on NoIon builds (which technically are the same as current builds) then once they are on, someone can turn on IM on android again ;-)
# [10:40] <@smaug> who owns webgl nowadays?
# [10:40] <Callek> smaug: Opera, the future is now.
# [10:41] <Callek> but seriously, iirc vlad, though I could be wrong
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# [10:41] <froydnj> bjacob would be a good person to talk to also
# [10:42] <edmorley> smaug: I thought it was bjacob?
# [10:42] <edmorley> bah
# [10:42] * edmorley learns to read :-)
# [10:43] <@smaug> edmorley: too late. I closed the tab which had webgl bug open
# [10:43] <@smaug> vlad got cc'ed
# [10:43] <Callek> smaug: actually yea looking at the real list it looks like jdrew and jeff muizelaar
# [10:43] <Callek> smaug: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/All
# [10:44] <Callek> smaug: but vlad is a peer
# [10:44] <Callek> :-)
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# [10:46] <Callek> smaug: assuming thats a seperate Question, I do and others are listed http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/secgrouplist.html
# [10:46] <Callek> ooo lookit-that theres also the person Olli Pettay who is in the group ;-)
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# [10:47] <@smaug> Callek: it wasn't a separate question. I wasn't sure whether webgl devs are in sg* group
# [10:47] <Callek> ahhh ok
# [10:48] <@smaug> though, being in that group doesn't ensure that anyone is actually getting the bugmail
# [10:48] <Callek> smaug: bjacob and jeff and joe all have s-g bug access at least
# [10:48] <Callek> ;-)
# [10:49] * Callek sometimes wonders how he can remember all these tangentially useful-to-him things from Mozilla Community
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# [10:50] <Callek> since my normal focus these days don't even require me to compile more than once a month
# [10:50] <@smaug> so I should actually check whether person X is in sg group and whether he is following all the sg bugs
# [10:50] <Callek> heh, CC-ing manually is always helpful anyway, it lets person X know, "hey you should look at this"
# [10:50] <Callek> :-)
# [10:51] <froydnj> smaug: Ctrl-Shift-t after you close a tab to get it back, fwiw
# [10:51] <@smaug> doesn't work so well if you have closed already 10 other tabs too
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# [10:53] <froydnj> well, yes :)
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# [11:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f52e1945cd5 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 784385 - Fix JSOP_SETPROP to push the original value, not the setter's return value. r=djvj
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# [11:24] <NeilAway> gavin: well, in my SeaMonkey "port" of the Try Again code, I just captured DOMContentLoaded events, because I couldn't find a better web progress notification to use
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# [11:25] <@gavin> NeilAway: mentioning that in the bug could be useful!
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# [11:33] <felipe> smaug: is seeing this assertion something to worry about: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/events/src/nsDOMEventTargetHelper.h#99 ?
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# [11:39] <@gavin> felipe: is that being hit via the XHR caller? of CheckInnerWindowCorrectness?
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# [11:45] <Swatinem> edmorley: you are right with content being NULL
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# [11:46] <Swatinem> edmorley: so prefetch starts the processing, php writes NULL to synchronize, then prefetch kills the php process and it has no chance to clear that NULL flag
# [11:46] <edmorley> Swatinem: the worker timeout is 30m seconds, are we jsut killing the script before it has a chance to remove the null content entry?
# [11:46] <edmorley> ha
# [11:46] <edmorley> yeah
# [11:47] <edmorley> s/30m/30/
# [11:47] <Swatinem> im not at home right now so i cant patch that myself
# [11:47] <Swatinem> just stick a DELETE in after the prefetch step in the importer
# [11:47] <Swatinem> should be fine running that every 5 minutes or so
# [11:47] <edmorley> ah
# [11:48] <edmorley> Swatinem: for all content NULL ?
# [11:48] <Swatinem> and a manual DELETE should also be a short term solution until the change is deployed
# [11:48] <edmorley> should we increase the prefetch timeout?
# [11:49] <Swatinem> hm i dont think so...
# [11:49] <Swatinem> on tbpl-dev, ive seen some imports exceed the 5 minute mark
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# [11:49] <Swatinem> (consecutive logs are 0 bytes)
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# [11:51] <Swatinem> using DELETE WHERE content IS NULL will surely delete some genuinely running jobs
# [11:51] <Swatinem> but its better to have duplicated processing then none at all
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# [11:53] <edmorley> yeah true
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# [11:54] <froydnj> tbpl, y u timeout during log generation?
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# [11:54] <Swatinem> froydnj: edmorley is working on it :-)
# [11:54] <edmorley> froydnj: bug 790889
# [11:54] <@smaug> metrics.m.c, don't be so slow
# [11:55] <edmorley> froydnj: workaround for now -> use the new "go to build directory" link on non-try trees on the build for that platform and open the log directly
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# [11:57] <Swatinem> edmorley: concerning your request to skip prefetch, just setting `-w 0` should work
# [11:57] <Swatinem> edmorley: see http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/file/b3f9daa143ce/dataimport/import-buildbot-data.py#l358
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# [11:58] <edmorley> Swatinem: ah indeed :-)
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# [12:00] <edmorley> Swatinem: we could just delete the individual NULL entry as part of that worker's timeout I guess? (won't fix the cases that are already in the DB)
# [12:00] <edmorley> the latter we could get a DBA to fix
# [12:00] <edmorley> or else patch and revert
# [12:01] <froydnj> edmorley: thanks!
# [12:02] <froydnj> edmorley: doh, this is on try. guess I can use the link in the try email?
# [12:02] <edmorley> froydnj: there is a build directory link on try (sorry, I meant that today is the frist day we /also/ have the link for non-try)
# [12:02] <edmorley> bottom left of the UI, next to the brief log url
# [12:03] <Swatinem> edmorley: we could do that when we kill the job, yes: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/file/b3f9daa143ce/dataimport/import-buildbot-data.py#l377
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# [12:04] <edmorley> froydnj: bug 762710
# [12:04] <edmorley> Swatinem: although the output would indicate we never got the "Timed out..." for some reason?
# [12:04] <Swatinem> edmorley: i dont think php has a sig_kill handler? so it cant clean up after itself...
# [12:04] <Swatinem> edmorley: which output?
# [12:05] <edmorley> https://tbpl-dev.allizom.org/cache/import-log-1347519301.txt
# [12:05] <edmorley> Swatinem: generating raw log: 984ms
# [12:05] <edmorley> completed after 17360ms
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# [12:06] <edmorley> (from comment 0)
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# [12:06] <Cwiiis> A friend of mine installed Aurora on his Windows 7 machine and it asked him to reboot afterwards. Is that expected?
# [12:06] <Swatinem> edmorley: hm in that case i have no idea, it should say `generating annotatedsummary log`
# [12:06] <Swatinem> so python thinks the process exited normally, but it did not?
# [12:07] <froydnj> edmorleybot: thanks! ;)
# [12:07] <edmorley> :-)
# [12:07] <NeilAway> ooh, viddler uses HTML5
# [12:08] <Swatinem> edmorley: so i think just DELETEing all NULL rows would be the safest thing to do, also in case the php script died for some other reason and was not supervised by the python importer
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# [12:09] <edmorley> yeah agree
# [12:09] <edmorley> I think we need a bunch more logging too
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# [12:09] <Swatinem> we do :-D
# [12:09] <felipe> gavin: yeah that's where I hit that warning
# [12:10] <Swatinem> i mean the NULL based synchronization has been there for some time now, i wonder why it hasnt been a problem so far
# [12:10] <Swatinem> apart from the fact that we now show the symptoms for every log that needs > 30s to generate
# [12:11] <edmorley> rather than 60
# [12:11] <edmorley> yeah
# [12:11] <edmorley> well we have hit it before iirc
# [12:11] <edmorley> months ago, when we had a spell of horrid oranges that would dump loads of stuff into the log
# [12:12] <edmorley> and so presumably time out in the bzapi calls
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# [12:16] <edmorley> Swatinem: I guess this doesn't help: " Beware that when using PHP on the command line, die("Error") simply prints "Error" to STDOUT and terminates the program with a normal exit code of 0." from http://php.net/manual/en/function.die.php
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# [12:24] <Swatinem> edmorley: well in that case it should appear in the log output
# [12:25] <edmorley> I meant more for the "completed sucessfull", but having looked we don't check the exit code anyway
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# [12:26] <edmorley> s/completed sucessfully/completed after/
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# [12:31] <edmorley> Swatinem: in fact, should we just remove the null at the die('Timeout waiting for log generation.'); line?
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# [12:32] <edmorley> Swatinem: (I'll just attach both patches, save pestering you any more for now :-))
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# [12:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0695ebad9af3 - Chris Lord - Bug 786502 - Fix background-attachment:fixed scrolling with page. r=roc
# [12:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1cfb5997d30 - Chris Lord - Bug 786502 - Test that scrolling a fixed background doesn't cause painting. r=roc
# [12:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6965fb1628a2 - Chris Lord - Bug 786502 - Add reftests for background layers. r=roc
# [12:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61b79c82bbc7 - Chris Lord - Bug 786502 - Separate background layers into separate items. r=roc
# [12:46] <past> glandium: ping
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# [13:02] <glazou> bonjour
# [13:02] <nigelb> Morning
# [13:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a71b19fafcbe - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 789947 - Setting up search engines creates an extra top sites filter query. r=bnicholson
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# [13:17] <Swatinem> edmorley: r+ on that patch, thanks
# [13:17] <Swatinem> edmorley: I’ll only be able to really r+ it when i get home in ~ 8 hours :-D
# [13:18] <edmorley> Swatinem: thank you :-) I'll land on dev for now
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# [13:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b1fdd5de6678 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 790608 - Typos in aboutFeedback.dtd: indentifiable. r=mfinkle a=akeybl
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# [13:27] <glandium> past: pong
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# [13:28] <past> glandium: hey, I was wondering how to test your changes to the profiler, but I've figured it out
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# [13:29] <past> glandium: I don't get observer notifications though
# [13:29] <glandium> past: ah, ok. just saw your comment on 751034
# [13:29] <glandium> past: that requires another bug
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# [13:29] <past> glandium: yeah, I figured as much. It's not a big deal actually
# [13:29] <glandium> past: bug 790593
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# [13:30] <past> glandium: thanks, I'll give it a try
# [13:31] <glandium> past: nsIProfiler can be disabled, and i agree we need something in that case
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# [13:31] <past> glandium: ah, ok, then
# [13:31] <glandium> past: i guess we could make it conditional on 'nsIProfiler' in Cc
# [13:31] <glandium> Ci
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# [13:32] <past> glandium: sounds good
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# [13:41] <victorporo> edmorley: ping
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# [13:41] <edmorley> victorporof: hi :-)
# [13:42] <victorporof> hey. i did a merge from fx-team to mc and fx-team builds are dying :)
# [13:42] <victorporof> m-c is fine though
# [13:42] <victorporof> any clues?
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# [13:45] <mconnor> victorporof: where is it dying?
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# [13:45] <edmorley> victorporof: I'm presuming it just needs a clobber, I'll do that now for you
# [13:45] <victorporof> i assumed that too, thanks
# [13:45] <nigelb> mconnor: aren't you on a vacation?
# [13:45] <mconnor> nigelb: no
# [13:45] <nigelb> Let me rephrase.
# [13:45] <nigelb> Oh. Ok.
# [13:45] <victorporof> mconnor: some Bs on fx-team are in a bloodbath
# [13:46] <mconnor> victorporof: I mean where in the build :)
# [13:46] <victorporof> ah
# [13:46] <edmorley> mconnor: copying branding files around
# [13:46] <mconnor> nigelb: in London for a training thing, but tacking on touristy stuff on either side
# [13:46] <froydnj> victorporof: so much more evocative than "the tree is burning"
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# [13:46] <mconnor> edmorley: oh man, that's a terrible place for the build to break
# [13:46] <edmorley> mconnor: suspect the build system work fallout (that and the merge was 2000 csets)
# [13:46] <nigelb> mconnor: Ahh.
# [13:47] <mconnor> 2000?!
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# [13:47] <mconnor> yeesh
# [13:47] <edmorley> victorporof: done
# [13:47] <victorporof> thanks
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# [13:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/815b5a243315 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 781213 - remove chmod on telemetry saved-pings directory; r=taras
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# [14:08] <Davidw93> Hi everyone I don't suppose anyone could point me towards some projects that need some assitance. I've previously worked on the Mozillians project and I'm returning to the contributers now that I've finished my internship. My web development knowledge is good however if there's anything other than web projects that need assistance I'm more than happy to join them.
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# [14:13] <capella> You know about bugsahoy and searching bugzilla then right?
# [14:14] <Davidw93> Bugzilla yes, bugsahoy not so much
# [14:15] <capella> firebot bugsahoy
# [14:15] <firebot> capella: bugsahoy is http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/
# [14:15] <capella> lets you search by area / skillset
# [14:15] <Davidw93> that's handy
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# [14:15] <capella> firebot student projects
# [14:15] <firebot> capella: Students are invited to check out other interesting Mozilla projects at https://github.com/Yoric/Mozilla-Student-Projects/issues?labels=&page=1&state=open !
# [14:15] <capella> also interesting
# [14:16] <capella> but theres plenty to do :P
# [14:16] <Davidw93> glad to see things haven't changed :)
# [14:17] <Davidw93> thanks for the pointers capella, just having a trawl through bugsahoy and the student projects just now!
# [14:17] <capella> B)
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# [14:28] <jaws_> glandium: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10009682/replicating-arguments-callee-in-strict-mode
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# [14:30] <sheppy> You know you've got your poor computer trying to do too much when you get "unresponsive script" messages from parts of Firefox itself. :D
# [14:30] <@gavin> which part?
# [14:31] <sheppy> Oh wait, that's XPCOMUtils.jsm. So that's probably actually an extension.
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# [14:31] <@gavin> firefox uses XPCOMUtils.jsm too
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# [14:32] <sheppy> With the new puppies needing to be watched all day, I've been working on my daughter's computer during the day, and I forget it only has 4 GB of memory. I keep… overtaxing it.
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# [14:32] <sewardj> Build fails with "ValueError: too many values to unpack". Anybody know what this means?
# [14:32] <sheppy> Apparently launching seven apps at once, including Firefox, three separate software updating systems, and Postbox, is a little much.
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# [14:32] <bhearsum> sewardj: link? i'd need to see context around that
# [14:33] <sheppy> gavin: Yeah, I can't tell who called XPCOMUtils.jsm… but the "Unresponsive script" dialog is unresponsive. I don't have a spinning cursor indicating a lock-up, but can't dismiss the dialog either. :(
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# [14:33] <sheppy> fwiw, it's line 323 of XPCOMUtils, in Firefox beta.
# [14:34] <sewardj> bhearsum: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1819643
# [14:34] * sheppy goes to sample it, just in case.
# [14:34] <bhearsum> sewardj: that potentially sounds like a pymake thing
# [14:34] <sheppy> Whoa. The monitor program for my UPS is using 92% of a cpu. That's not right.
# [14:35] <bhearsum> sid0 might have an inclining about it
# [14:35] <sewardj> bhearsum: hmm, was not using pymake
# [14:35] <bhearsum> sheppy: YOUR POWER LEVELS ARE OK YOUR POWER LEVELS ARE OK
# [14:35] <bhearsum> sewardj: i think it's the default now...
# [14:35] <bhearsum> but i could be wrong, it might not be pymake related
# [14:35] <sheppy> bhearsum: hehe
# [14:35] <sewardj> oh.
# [14:36] <sewardj> bhearsum: so anyway, what's my Plan B ? build from clean?
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# [14:36] <bhearsum> sewardj: worth a try
# [14:36] <bhearsum> i don't really know what the root of the problem is, so i can't say whether that's going to help =\
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# [14:39] <sheppy> Heh, all sampling seems to tell me is that it's somewhere very deep inside JS going "wtf, wtf, wtf!" over and over.
# [14:40] <bhearsum> that sounds like a JS implementation of me at times
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# [14:41] <glandium> past: ping
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# [14:41] <past> glandium: pong
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# [14:42] <glandium> past: i have a problem with the dbg-profiler-actors patch (part 3): each request creates a new actor, and thus adds it as an observer
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# [14:43] <glandium> past: and since they're registered as observers, each actor is never killed
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# [14:45] <past> glandium: have you tried removing the observers in disconnect()?
# [14:46] <glandium> past: that's only called when the transport stream is closed
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# [14:46] <past> glandium: oh, I see what you meant now
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# [14:50] <past> glandium: requests to the same actor should reuse the same actor instance from the pool
# [14:50] <past> glandium: is that not the case for you?
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# [14:51] <glandium> past: nope, each request triggers a new instance for me
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# [14:51] <past> glandium: what do you use for testing that I could try as well?
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# [14:53] <glandium> past: i'm using a heavily modified gecko profiler addon.
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# [14:53] <past> glandium: have you pushed your changes to your fork? Can I use that?
# [14:53] <glandium> past: are instances cached when requests are nested only?
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# [14:54] <past> glandium: what do you mean by 'nested'?
# [14:55] <glandium> past: client.request(..., function() { client.request(...
# [14:55] <glandium> vs. client.request(..., function() { }); client.request(..., funtion() { });
# [14:55] <past> glandium: no, that shouldn't make any difference
# [14:56] <glandium> past: let me see if i reproduce with a small testcase
# [14:56] <past> glandium: that would be great, thanks
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# [14:57] <zzzzz> edmorley: tbpl no longer shows data on builds in progress, i.e. time start, etc... just a blank window appears at bottom of page
# [14:59] <edmorley> zzzzz: hmmm, thank you I'll take a look (I can reproduce)
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# [14:59] <zzzzz> yw
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# [15:00] <glandium> past: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1819720
# [15:01] <glandium> past: happens with that
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# [15:01] <past> glandium: thanks
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# [15:06] <glandium> past: do you reproduce?
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# [15:09] <past> glandium: not yet, because the profiler crashes on the start message
# [15:09] <glandium> past: ah, you need bug 790261
# [15:10] <past> glandium: thanks!
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# [15:14] <glazou_afk> paul: ping
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# [15:16] <glandium> past: does that work?
# [15:16] <past> glandium: I had to pull and rebuild. It will take a while
# [15:16] <glandium> past: ah
# [15:17] <glandium> past: so, theoretically, there should only be one instance per client?
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# [15:17] <past> glandium: right
# [15:17] <glandium> past: in which case, removing the observers in disconnect would work.
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# [15:18] <past> glandium: exactly
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# [15:18] <glandium> past: provided disconnect is called on errors
# [15:18] <past> glandium: what kind of errors do you have in mind?
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# [15:20] <glandium> past: tcp connection broken for some reason, etc.
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# [15:21] <edmorley> zzzzz: caused by bug 656155, I've attached a patch in bug 790939 (will need review, push to production etc)
# [15:21] <zzzzz> ok, great
# [15:22] <past> glandium: yes, in such cases disconnect should be called, although I'm not sure we have tested it
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# [15:25] <NeilAway> sheppy: have you managed to get an unresponsive script message from the unresponsive script dialog yet?
# [15:26] <sheppy> NeilAway: I was never able to dismiss that dialog. The browser wasn't locked up, but it also was ignoring all mouse activity, too. I finally killed the browser.
# [15:27] <sheppy> And I just realized that although I thought I'd saved a copy of the sampling output, I did not. Crap.
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# [15:29] <capella> heh - good for you! give us hell :P
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# [15:30] <reuben> oh wow, this is a really good idea: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4515836
# [15:31] <reuben> greasemonkey for B2G + share feature
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# [15:39] <past> glandium: hmm, I don't see how that could happen. DSC_onPacket adds the new actor to the pool, which should tag it with an ID
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# [15:40] <imphil> I'm getting build bustages for all win builds on try with an aurora tree (https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e40facbd4e6d). should building aurora on try actually work or did some build system changes prevent this?
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# [15:49] <glandium> past: is tags it with a different ID from the one the client is using
# [15:49] <glandium> past: so the next time the client is referring that id, it gets the actor factory, not the instance
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# [15:50] <glandium> past: i'll file a bug
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# [15:51] <past> glandium: ok, thanks. I'm having build issues here that keep stalling me
# [15:52] <jlebar> I see pretty clearly that I'm not supposed to use nsIFile::{target,nativeTarget,path,nativePath} with nspr / stdlib.
# [15:52] <jlebar> So how /do/ I get a path out of nsIFile that I can pass to stdlib?
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# [15:53] <jlebar> glandium, Or alternatively, do we have a way for me to get the tmp directory on Unix that doesn't involve going through nsIFile?
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# [15:57] <@ted> jlebar: you can either use target and convert from UTF16 to the native charset
# [15:57] <@ted> or on linux you can probably just call nativeTarget and it'll be ok because it's all UTF-8 anyway
# [15:58] <jlebar> ted, This is linux only, so I guess that's easy. Thanks!
# [15:58] <@ted> i guess technically you can set your filesystem charset to non-UTF8 on linux
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# [15:59] <jlebar> ted, ...
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# [15:59] <jlebar> ted, Presumably the path to the tmp directory on Linux doesn't contain any non-ASCII characters?
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# [16:00] <@ted> seems exceedingly unlikely
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# [16:16] <glandium> jlebar: i'm pretty sure we give nativePath to system functions
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# [16:16] <glandium> jlebar: like, gnome ones
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# [16:16] <jlebar> glandium, Yeah, re-reading it, I think the comment may be really misleading. If the problem is just that we're worried about getting strings in the native charset, well, nativePath does that.
# [16:16] <jlebar> glandium, The comment /may/ refer only to "target" and "path", and not to nativeTarget/Path
# [16:16] <jlebar> glandium, It's not clear. :(
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# [16:17] <glandium> jlebar: the unclearness probably comes from the nsILocalFile/nsIFile merge
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# [16:17] <glandium> jlebar: try looking at the older files from before the merge
# [16:17] <jlebar> glandium, Okay...
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# [16:20] <jlebar> Man, this is an old interface.
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# [16:23] <jlebar> glandium, Looks like you're right -- that comment existed before nativePath/Target.
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# [16:34] <zwol> I need help with passing a JS object from extension code to webpage code.
# [16:35] <zwol> Extension code constructs an object and fills it in. (It's strictly data.) Then it passes it to a callback previously registered. The callback runs in page context. It sees an empty object rather than the data it was supposed to get.
# [16:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e705a66069eb - Ed Morley - Backout 815b5a243315 (bug 781213) for xpcshell failures
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# [16:35] <zwol> I presume I'm tripping over some sort of security barrier but I don't know how to avoid it.
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# [16:36] <glandium> past: bug 790952
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# [16:37] <zwol> Code here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1819802
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# [16:40] <past> glandium: this makes a lot of sense, thanks!
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# [16:40] <glandium> past: i'm not convinced by my patch, though
# [16:40] <glandium> works for me, at least
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# [16:42] <past> I just got a working build, so now I can play, too
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# [16:42] <GPHemsley> argh, who just broke MDN?
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# [16:42] <zwol> anyone? dveditz?
# [16:43] <mak> froydnj: you aware of the xpcshell failure?
# [16:43] <@dveditz> zwol: what?
# [16:43] <mak> froydnj: oh well looks like edmorley just backed out :)
# [16:44] <@dveditz> zwol: if it's strictly data can you pass it as JSON?
# [16:44] <zwol> dveditz: I suppose I could... hang on, though, I think __exposedProps__ is what I need
# [16:45] <@dveditz> zwol: I think you're a victim of a ChromeObjectWrapper.
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# [16:47] <@dveditz> zwol: but I'm fuzzy on the details of current wrappers. you want bholley or mrbkap I think
# [16:47] <@ehsan> so can someone help me figure out why hg pull does not work any more?
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# [16:48] <bholley> zwol: yes, you need __exposedProps__
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# [16:49] <@dveditz> zwol: and anytime you think you need to use a wrappedJSObject from chrome tread very very carefully
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# [16:53] <bholley> zwol: does |callback| live in content?
# [16:53] <zwol> bholley: yes, callback lives in content
# [16:53] <bholley> zwol: and what is |this.window|
# [16:54] <zwol> bholley: passed to SPConsoleListener's constructor
# [16:54] <zwol> bholley: which is called from content; it's _supposed_ to be the calling content window
# [16:54] <bholley> zwol: is it a content window? How does its scope compare with that of the callback?
# [16:55] <zwol> bholley: the idea here is to ensure that the callback is called with scope equal to the content window that requested the listener in the first place
# [16:55] <jprmc> ehsan: have you ever tried using http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/BugzillaExtension ?
# [16:55] <zwol> bholley: if there's a more certain way to make that happen i'm all ears
# [16:55] <@ehsan> jprmc: no
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# [16:56] <@dveditz> zwol: and if you're troubles inspire you, fixing https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789298 might save others in the future from the same trouble
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# [16:57] <jprmc> ehsan: i set up a jira instance to play, but the mercurial extension is complaining about a missing header in the log file
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# [16:57] <jprmc> s/file//
# [16:57] <bholley> zwol: if you just invoke the callback it should have an unbound |this|, which I assume is what you want
# [16:57] <@ehsan> jprmc: which header is that?
# [16:57] <bholley> zwol: or do you actually want this === contentWindow?
# [16:57] <bholley> zwol: note that the two are not identical
# [16:58] <zwol> bholley: er. I want the callback to be called as-if it had been called as a free function but directly from content
# [16:58] <jprmc> ehsan: "Unknown header on line 574025: summary: backing out 544250"
# [16:58] <bholley> zwol: then just invoke it
# [16:58] <jprmc> ehsan: i can't find "backing out 544250" in the log
# [16:58] <zwol> the global object will be correct in that case?
# [16:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b8e89614a6c - Mark Capella - Bug 780442 - About:Memory page buttons are overlapping, oversized, r=margaret, njn
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# [16:58] <zwol> (correct = the appropriate content window)
# [16:59] <@ehsan> jprmc: hmm is that error coming form hg?
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# [16:59] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Ping
# [16:59] <bholley> zwol: yes. The content function lives in a content compartment, and that compartment has the correct global
# [16:59] <bholley> zwol: when you call the cross-compartment wrapper for it (that you have in chrome), you'll actually enter the content compartment to invoke it
# [16:59] <bholley> zwol: at which point there is only one actual global object
# [16:59] <bholley> zwol: (everything else would be a cross-compartment wrapper)
# [16:59] <zwol> hang on though
# [17:00] <jprmc> ehsan: hard to tell, i'm looking for logs
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# [17:00] <zwol> bholley: doing as you suggest, it'd be invoked as "this.callback(m);" -- won't that make 'this' be the chrome object making the call?
# [17:01] <zwol> instead of unbound
# [17:01] <bholley> zwol: invoking foo is not the same thing as invoking this.foo
# [17:01] <@ehsan> jprmc: ok. that error doesn't ring any bells for me
# [17:01] <bholley> zwol: the implicit binding of the global object to |this| is actually different from explicitly invoking with |window| as the |this| object
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# [17:01] <decoder> question: should we start adding LCOV exclusion markers to the source code to exclude stuff that isnt meant to be covered so it doesnt show up as uncovered ?
# [17:02] <bholley> zwol: as in, the JS engine and ES5 have a concept of an unbound |this|
# [17:02] <decoder> stuff like http://people.mozilla.org/~choller/coverage/mc-tests-all-20120903/parser/html/nsHtml5Atom.cpp.gcov.html
# [17:02] <bholley> zwol: if |this| is unbound, it will resolve to the global. But it's not the same thing as being bound
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# [17:03] <bholley> zwol: you can prove this to yourself by invoking it plain, and doing a |call| with the chrome window as the this-binding
# [17:03] <zwol> bholley: I'm afraid you've just made me even more confused
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# [17:04] <jlebar> glandium, So...do you know what it means when I hang calling open() on a fifo?
# [17:04] <zwol> I want to invoke a function, foo, such that its |this| is unbound. The calling code happens to be an actual method of an actual object, and to have stored the value 'foo' in a property of that object.
# [17:05] <zwol> I am under the impression that if I simply write 'this.foo(args)' foo will receive the calling method's object as its |this|.
# [17:05] <zwol> I don't know how to prevent that.
# [17:05] <glandium> jlebar: that it's not opened on the other end
# [17:06] <bholley> zwol: oh, I see. I didn't realize that |this| was already bound
# [17:06] <bholley> zwol: you can just pass undefined as the this-binding in the Function.call
# [17:06] <jlebar> glandium, Oh. Erm...that's not going to work for what I want. I was hoping to have a file so you could do |echo 1 > /data/local/tmp/dump-about-memory|.
# [17:07] <zwol> bholley: as in |this.callback.call(undefined, m)| ?
# [17:07] <bholley> zwol: correct
# [17:07] <jlebar> glandium, And I presume I can't have open this fifo for writing now and then watch as some other process writes to it at a later point in time.
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# [17:10] <glandium> jlebar: you need someone reading it
# [17:10] <glandium> something
# [17:10] <jlebar> glandium, ...writing
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# [17:11] <jlebar> glandium, But if I open my own writer, do you know if that will preclude anyone else from writing to it? I would presume so...
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# [17:12] <glandium> jlebar: that might work. note that O_NONBLOCK should allow you to open without the other end being opened
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# [17:13] <jlebar> glandium, Oh, that's better...
# [17:13] <zwol> bholley: thanks for all the help, it works now
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# [17:13] <bholley> zwol: np :-)
# [17:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d18521899372 - Simone Carletti - Bug 760447 - Update .ua entry in PSL. r=gerv.
# [17:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4340b569c89 - Simone Carletti - Bug 772069 - Update .uy entry in PSL. r=gerv.
# [17:14] <jlebar> glandium, O_NONBLOCK doesn't seem to help. :(
# [17:16] <jlebar> ...despite what fifo(7) seems to suggest.
# [17:16] <glandium> jlebar: ah no, you get a ENXIO
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# [17:17] <jlebar> glandium, " In this case, opening for read only will succeed even if no-
# [17:17] <jlebar> one has opened on the write side yet, opening for write only will fail with ENXIO"
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# [17:26] <philor> edmorley: is it just coincidence that every timed out log is Windows debug?
# [17:26] <edmorley> philor: probably not, I need to download them and compare
# [17:27] <philor> filthy Windows, putting something nasty in its logs
# [17:28] <philor> I also wonder where we lost the ability to do reftest_with_caret failures, but they're easy enough to do by hand
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# [17:34] <edmorley> philor: there is soemthing strange going on :-(
# [17:34] <edmorley> philor: btw I can't figure out what purpose http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/file/bb3786ddf460/js/MachineResult.js#l97 serves?
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# [17:35] <philor> edmorley: puts them into the scrape, so you can see without opening the log that it was "FAIL: could not find beforeLaunchTime"
# [17:36] <edmorley> philor: but they are already on the tinderbox_print summary so show up regardless aiui
# [17:36] <edmorley> unless I had the wrong mq applied when testing locally that is
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# [18:31] <jwir3> So, I'm trying to make a build from
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# [18:31] <jwir3> a while back, and I keep getting "No rule to make target `../../dist/bin/libxpcom.so',"
# [18:32] <jwir3> On this rev: changeset: 97107:df4bbe5ffc47
# [18:32] <jwir3> user: Mike Hommey <mh+mozilla@glandium.org>
# [18:32] <jwir3> date: Wed Jun 20 09:00:48 2012 +0200
# [18:32] <jwir3> summary: Bug 764046 - Fail configure when --with-system-zlib/jpeg is used and the system zlib/jpeg version is too old. r=khuey
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# [18:44] <@khuey> zaller: is the back button causing a navigation to happen?
# [18:44] <@khuey> or is this pushstate or something?
# [18:45] <zaller> its using local routers so #/newurl to change the lib we use for that is director
# [18:46] <zaller> so no page refresh happens
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# [18:47] <kmoir-afk> jgriffin: the reconfig is done, you wanted to be pinged to watch Bug 782355 in production
# [18:47] <jgriffin> kmoir-afk: yes thanks very much!
# [18:47] <@khuey> zaller: can you file a bug?
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# [18:47] <@khuey> it's worth investigating
# [18:47] <kmoir-afk> jgriffin: yw
# [18:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aee383cd56dc - Ben Turner - Bug 755943 - 'Electrolysize b2g-bluetooth'. r=qDot+cjones.
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# [18:48] <zaller> yea i can create an account and do that
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# [18:49] <@khuey> zaller: cc ':khuey' please
# [18:49] <@khuey> and thanks for reporting this
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# [18:52] <zaller> will do, np
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# [18:54] <zwol> hoorah, recompiling the world
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# [18:55] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Are you available for a few quick one-line reviews? It doesn't seem like jfkthame is available.
# [18:56] <smontagu> GPHemsley: sure
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# [18:57] * smontagu assumes you mean reviews of one-line patches :-P
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# [18:58] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Bug 586085 and bug 535422
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# [18:59] <jgriffin> blassey: ping
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# [19:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8e0ceb1fb06 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out aee383cd56dc (bug 755943) for burning
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# [19:02] <GPHemsley> smontagu: See also bug 696725
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# [19:03] <smontagu> GPHemsley: and bug 208277
# [19:04] <smontagu> which goes back before jbo existed as such
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# [19:05] <GPHemsley> Yeah, though it was also indicative of a bigger problem handling language tags
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# [19:05] <GPHemsley> (although I suppose at that point, language tags were a free-for-all anyway)
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# [19:06] <smontagu> GPHemsley: Y U no patch langGroups.properties?
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# [19:06] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Forgot it existed? :)
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# [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4ae0aa3d663 - Steve Fink - Bug 786386 - Add easy way to disable typed array move() method. r=dmandelin
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# [19:08] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Is it strictly necessary?
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# [19:09] <smontagu> GPHemsley: this is where I'm no substitute for jfkthame, but I believe that font code needs it
# [19:09] <GPHemsley> ah, ok
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# [19:10] <smontagu> are all these languages latin script?
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# [19:11] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Checking now.
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# [19:11] <Pike> oh the irony of left messages
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# [19:12] <GPHemsley> smontagu: It appears that way.
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# [19:14] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Does that mean x-western?
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# [19:15] <smontagu> GPHemsley: In general yes, though I suppose Kashubian is theoretically x-central-euro
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# [19:15] <smontagu> but we need to nuke x-central-euro anyway
# [19:16] <GPHemsley> smontagu: I can't wait until we get around to replacing these with the actual script tags
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# [19:24] <Optimizer> I am getting some erros on windows while pushing to try
# [19:24] <Optimizer> can someone help ?
# [19:24] <Optimizer> http://past.pastebin.mozilla.org/1820075
# [19:25] <mbrubeck> Optimizer: Hmm, looks like the errors are on the server side
# [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de38f0156b33 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 652168: Add thumb for input box. [r=mfinkle]
# [19:25] <Optimizer> mbrubeck: is my configuration wrong somehow, someone with windows ?
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# [19:26] <mbrubeck> maybe?
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# [19:26] <firebot> bz was last seen 24 hours, 36 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying 'and now works in Firefox too...' in #developers.
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# [19:28] <Optimizer> on windows do we have to have the tryfix patch in their queue ?
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# [19:31] <smontagu> do whitespace-only changes even need review?
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# [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4607eda1a89f - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 652168: Add thumb for input box. [r=mfinkle]
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# [19:34] <Optimizer> here is my empty patch : $ hg qnew -m "try: -b do -p all -u all -t none" try
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# [19:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb6caf30255c - Jim Mathies - Bug 784165 - Metrofx should use a new appid. r=gavin
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# [19:41] <Optimizer> glob: I am getting this http://past.pastebin.mozilla.org/1820075 error while pushing my first try
# [19:41] <Optimizer> :(
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# [19:42] * glob isn't sure either :)
# [19:42] <jhammel> though i'm not sure who does
# [19:42] <Optimizer> sawrubh said that glob will help
# [19:42] <Optimizer> :P
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# [19:42] <glob> Optimizer, sorry, i don't use hg
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# [19:42] <jhammel> yes, he's happy in his bizarre world :P
# [19:43] <Optimizer> lol
# [19:43] <sawrubh> glob: which world is that ?
# [19:43] <Optimizer> Krypton ?
# [19:43] <glob> sawrubh, bzr
# [19:43] <Optimizer> so who might be able to help
# [19:43] <Optimizer> I am on Windows
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# [19:44] <rillian> Optimizer: are you pushing from the msys prompt, or command.com?
# [19:44] <Optimizer> msys
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# [19:44] <Optimizer> and I also have that fix patch as mentioned on the wiki page
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# [19:45] <Optimizer> but even without that the same error comes
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# [19:47] <rillian> Optimizer: that's a weird error. it sounds like hg.mozilla.org has been asked to run some windows programmes from your side
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# [19:48] <rillian> what command did you use to push?
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# [19:49] <Optimizer> rillian: this is my empty patch : $ hg qnew -m "try: -b do -p all -u all -t none" try
# [19:49] <Optimizer> and the simply hg push -f -rtip ssh://hg.mozilla.org/try
# [19:49] <Optimizer> s/the/then
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# [19:50] <mbrubeck> Optimizer: Do you have anything about connect.exe in your ~/.ssh/config?
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# [19:51] <mbrubeck> It's not part of mozilla-build, but I see references to it in msys-git instructions like http://skim.la/2010/02/22/how-to-make-github-and-proxy-play-nicely-with-ssh/
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# [19:51] <Optimizer> oh yes,
# [19:51] <Optimizer> they are used for my git client
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# [19:51] <Optimizer> ah
# [19:51] <Optimizer> now it works :)
# [19:52] <Optimizer> thanks mbrubeck, rillian :)
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# [19:53] <mbrubeck> Optimizer: You might want to put the ProxyCommand line into one or more "Host" sections, so it will still be used for those hosts but not for hg.mozilla.org
# [19:53] <Optimizer> I commented it for now
# [19:54] <Optimizer> dammit, how to cancel a try push ?
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# [19:55] <rillian> Optimizer: go to the tbpl link it gives you and click the red octagonal button
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# [19:55] <Optimizer> it asks for username password
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# [19:55] <rillian> Optimizer: use your ldap credentials
# [19:55] <Optimizer> I don;t have
# [19:56] <Optimizer> I only have L1 commit access
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# [19:56] <sawrubh> Optimizer: if you have L1 access
# [19:56] <sawrubh> then you must have received an email from Mozilla
# [19:56] <Optimizer> nopes
# [19:56] <sawrubh> hrm
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# [19:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0211a7845cb7 - Mark Banner - Bug 790181: Skip private browsing test for gecko applications that don't support private browsing. r=ehsan, a=lsblakk
# [20:00] <philor> dholbert: any feeling about how badly we need to run reftests/svg/smil/transform/translate-pattern-1.svg on Android?
# [20:00] <edmorley> Optimizer: paste your try url and we can cancel for now; then file a bug to get the pwd reset :-)
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# [20:00] <philor> "Slowest test took 285934ms"
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# [20:00] <Optimizer> edmorley: I didn;t get a password, and I asked someone else to cancel it for now :)
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# [20:01] <edmorley> Optimizer: yeah, but you can still get a new one by requesting a reset
# [20:01] <edmorley> :-)
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# [20:08] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Are your reviews good enough, or should I wait for jfkthame?
# [20:09] <smontagu> GPHemsley: mine are enough
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# [20:09] <WeirdAl> gps: ping
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# [20:09] <dholbert> philor, no more or less badly than any other test
# [20:09] <WeirdAl> bug 687213, should that say Visual Studio 2012?
# [20:10] <dholbert> philor, is it failing?
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# [20:12] <Optimizer> edmorley: whon should I assign it too ?
# [20:12] <Optimizer> the bug for ldap account reset
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# [20:13] <edmorley> Optimizer: if you use the IT form, it sorts it for you
# [20:14] <Optimizer> what product and component ?
# [20:14] <edmorley> it's a special form, I'm just trying to find the url
# [20:14] <Optimizer> oh
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# [20:14] <Optimizer> man, I filed a bug already :P
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# [20:15] <espindola> ted,
# [20:15] <espindola> ping
# [20:15] <Optimizer> edmorley: I got the link
# [20:15] <Optimizer> :)
# [20:15] <edmorley> Optimizer: mozilla.org::server operations account requests
# [20:16] <edmorley> just move the existing one :-)
# [20:16] <Optimizer> but he made it invalid
# [20:16] <Optimizer> the bug,
# [20:16] <Optimizer> and pointed me to the url
# [20:16] <Optimizer> which again asks for username and password
# [20:16] <Optimizer> :D
# [20:16] <blassey> jgriffin: pong
# [20:16] <jgriffin> blassey: nm, I was going to ask you to hide the Marionette tests on TBPL, but I think philor did it
# [20:16] <gps> WeirdAl: pong
# [20:17] <WeirdAl> repeat: bug 687213, should that say Visual Studio 2012?
# [20:17] <blassey> ok
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# [20:17] <gps> WeirdAl: probably. that bug was created before Visual Studio 2012 had a name :)
# [20:18] <philor> dholbert: not failing, taking more than 6% of the time for that chunk of reftests to run ("that chunk" now being R4, because I just added another chunk because R3 was taking so long it timed out, because you can't keep a tegra's attention for that long)
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# [20:19] <dholbert> whaa
# [20:19] <dholbert> that's odd
# [20:22] <edmorley> Optimizer: which URL?
# [20:22] <Optimizer> https://mozilla.service-now.com/
# [20:22] <@ted> espindola: pong
# [20:22] <edmorley> Optimizer: they shouldn't have done that, service now is employee only aiui
# [20:23] <edmorley> what's the bug #
# [20:23] <Optimizer> 791034
# [20:23] <GPHemsley> smontagu: Are we all set now?
# [20:23] <espindola> ted, ah, just commented on the bug
# [20:23] <espindola> so
# [20:23] <espindola> running dump_syms on the .dylib
# [20:23] <espindola> produces the STACK lines
# [20:23] <espindola> but not source line numbers
# [20:24] <espindola> and the opposite if it is run on the .dylib.dSYM
# [20:24] <@ted> that's...exciting
# [20:24] <espindola> did that use to be case?
# [20:24] <@ted> no, we run dump_syms on the .dSYM
# [20:24] <@ted> and we used to get both
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# [20:24] <@ted> maybe some bad interaction between clang's output and dsymutil here?
# [20:24] <espindola> interesting. Might have been the upgrade to 10.7 too
# [20:24] <espindola> (new dsymutil)
# [20:24] <@ted> ah
# [20:25] <@ted> i only have 10.7 here, so i can't really test anything else
# [20:25] <espindola> ok, I will build the svn version and see what happens
# [20:25] <@ted> thanks!
# [20:25] <@ted> if you need anything from me let me know
# [20:25] <GPHemsley> (Poor jfkthame is gonna have so many useless e-mails...)
# [20:25] <espindola> ted, do you know if the .dSYM format is documented somewhere?
# [20:26] <@ted> espindola: i haven't ever looked
# [20:26] <@ted> IIRC it's just a bundle that has a Mach-O file in it with all the debug sections
# [20:26] <espindola> ok
# [20:26] <jhammel> "theoretically" ;)
# [20:27] <jhammel> beh, wrong channel
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# [20:27] <jlebar> glandium, So opening the pipe with O_NONBLOCK works great, except then I can't detect when there's data available to read. :)
# [20:27] <@ted> espindola: my understanding is that Apple's LD doesn't copy debug info from the .o files to the output, hence the existence of dsymutil
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# [20:28] <espindola> ted, yes, that part I know
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# [20:28] <jlebar> glandium, Oh, but maybe I can change O_NONBLOCK after I open it...
# [20:28] <espindola> I very early guess is it not copying it because eh_frame is not "debug"
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# [20:28] <espindola> it is part of the actual abi
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# [20:30] <@ted> mm
# [20:30] <bdahl> if i dispatch a CustomEvent from a chrome context to a content context is it expected that everything in the customEvent.details be removed?
# [20:30] <@ted> does clang not generate both an eh_frame and a debug section?
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# [20:36] <gps> espindola: if you want something to look at, clang r163765 fails to build m-c. clang++ goes into an infinite resource allocation loop somewhere in dom/
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# [20:36] <@gavin> bdahl: if you don't specify __exposedProps__, yes
# [20:37] <espindola> gps, will do, but really have to figure out the stack problem first
# [20:37] <espindola> I just noticed that gcc 4.2 produces eh_frame and debug_frame
# [20:37] <espindola> but eh_frame *is* copied to the bundle
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# [20:37] <espindola> hopefully it is a simple patch to dump_syms...
# [20:38] <@gavin> bdahl: unfortunately it looks like we don't hve great __exposedProps__ docs yet...
# [20:38] <espindola> gps, if you can report a bug with a preprocessed file that would make things a lot easier
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# [20:38] <@gavin> bdahl: but see https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPConnect_Chrome_Object_Wrappers#COWing_Objects and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553102
# [20:39] <armenzg_mtg> who does know best how the try repo works?
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# [20:40] <armenzg_mtg> I would like to redirect people from the a-team that are working on the compare-talos improvements
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# [20:40] <@gavin> which part of it?
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# [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/701e901721bf - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 788701 - Decrease the length of the text to match when there is a start position. r=jorendorff
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# [20:45] <jhammel> gavin: so the short question is: if you push to try, how do you (computationally) get the branch name that you care about?
# [20:46] <jhammel> e.g. mozilla-central, beta, elm, etc
# [20:46] <@gavin> ah
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# [20:46] <@gavin> from the post-push hook?
# [20:47] <@gavin> sounds like a question for an hg wizard
# [20:47] <jhammel> ummmm... i'm not sure :)
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# [20:47] <@gavin> I have to go, bbl :)
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# [20:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ec10e895d42 - Michael Wu - Bug 788402 - Improve queue handling in opensl backend, r=kinetik
# [20:48] <mbrubeck> jhammel: You want to know something like, which of these repos contains the closest ancestor of this try push?
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# [20:49] <jhammel> mbrubeck: yes
# [20:49] <mbrubeck> You'd probably need to walk up the ancestry of the try push, and for each changeset, test whether it's in each of the repos you're interested in... with some caching it might not be too bad...
# [20:49] <jhammel> jmaher, armenzg_mtg, imaginary jeads: ^
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# [20:50] <mbrubeck> jhammel: What's the end goal?
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# [20:50] <jhammel> mbrubeck: so for datazilla we're trying to compare Try results with the results from the appropriate branch
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# [20:51] <gcp> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers
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# [20:51] <gcp> For the FGLRX (proprietary ATI) driver, we whitelist the newer versions that implement OpenGL 3.0 or newer.
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# [20:52] <gcp> 0/1. Blocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating your graphics driver to version <Anything with EXT_texture_from_pixmap support> or newer.
# [20:52] <gcp> maybe it's because debian is on ESR, but does anyone know if that info is still supposed to be current?
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# [20:53] <mbrubeck> jhammel: Okay... in that case you conceptually want to walk the ancestry of the Try push (starting at its tip) until you find a changeset for which you have data in <whatever database or source datazilla uses>, and then you compare the Try data to that data.
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# [20:54] <jhammel> jeads: ^
# [20:54] <mbrubeck> Since the ancestry is a straight line, it's really a breadth-first search instead of a straightforward walk
# [20:54] <jhammel> mbrubeck: coolz; thanks a bunch
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# [20:54] <mbrubeck> and there are edge cases, like for example nothing is stopping me from merging Beta and Aurora and pushing the result to Try, in which case it would be equally "close" to both of those repos
# [20:55] <mbrubeck> s/nothing/nothing except common sense :)/
# [20:55] <jhammel> hmmm....good point :/
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# [20:55] <jhammel> beh...fun...
# [20:55] <mbrubeck> s/is a straight line/is NOT a straight line/ of course
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# [20:58] <jhammel> edmorley: that could help with aurora and beta anyway
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# [20:59] <edmorley> oh, elm
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# [20:59] <edmorley> and sorry s/jmaher/jhammel/
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# [21:00] <edmorley> jhammel: you could use the version number for aurora, beta and than trychooser syntax to specify a repo maybe? trying to walk the changesets comparing against 10-20+ trunk repos seems infeasible
# [21:01] <jhammel> or at least foolish ;)
# [21:01] <espindola> ted, ok, almost sure the problem is the missing debug_frame
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# [21:01] <espindola> long term we have to teach dump_syms to look at both the .dylib and the .dSYM
# [21:02] <espindola> but I will just hack clang to produce debug_frame for now
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# [21:03] <@ted> espindola: that would be awesome
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# [21:03] <@ted> espindola: it's probably not terribly hard to fix dump_syms either, but maybe inconvenient
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# [21:07] <@ted> 7918.366ms
# [21:07] <@ted> yike
# [21:08] <@ted> almost 8s on my ivy bridge system with 8gb :-/
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# [21:13] <NeilAway> bah, I just saw edmorley say that in scrollback :s
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# [22:06] <firebot> that's NPOTB for now)
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# [22:28] <espindola> ted, ok, patching clang works
# [22:28] <espindola> I will send rail a code review
# [22:28] <espindola> ted, do you want your bug in bugzilla.mozilla.org or upstream?
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# [22:30] <brahmana> I am seeing some odd behavior with nsIScriptableUnescapeHTML.parseFragment
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# [22:30] <brahmana> Here is the relevant code : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1820373
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# [22:31] <brahmana> The <img> tag there becomes the child of the <span> tag after parsing. Is that expected?
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# [22:37] <@ehsan> jduell: would you mind taking a quick look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=660952&action=edit to tell me if you spot any big issues in it?
# [22:38] <brahmana> Ok, just found out that the interface I was using is obsolete and I should be using nsIParserUtils
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# [22:44] <karl> chrisccoulson: thanks for looking at translucent windows
# [22:46] <karl> chrisccoulson: i haven't at what has been said so far in the bug, but the first thing i would try to determine is whether the SetTransparencyMode api can be adjusted so that the mode can only be set on window creation
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# [22:47] <chrisccoulson> hi karl :)
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# [22:48] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i did consider that, but i haven't done that just yet to avoid touching non-linux code
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# [22:49] <jlebar> I am very afraid to ask why my linker is complaining about a call to signalfd().
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# [22:49] <jlebar> I...thought that was in libc.
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# [22:50] <karl> chrisccoulson: perhaps it is possible to destroy and recreate the GdkWindows if the mode changes, but that sounds pretty scarey
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# [22:52] <karl> jlebar: linux, i assume; it's not looking for a visibility=hidden symbol, is it
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# [22:52] <jlebar> karl, "hidden symbol 'signalfd' is not defined locally" -- indeed.
# [22:53] <chrisccoulson> karl, yeah, i'll see if we can change the SetTransparencyMode API instead
# [22:53] <karl> jlebar: check the header is in system-headers
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# [22:54] <jlebar> karl, aha.
# [22:55] <jlebar> karl, thanks! I never would have figured that out.
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# [22:55] <chrisccoulson> i remember spending about half a day trying to figure that problem out once ;)
# [22:55] <karl> jlebar: np; yeah, one of those things, you eventually discover
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# [23:09] <NeilAway> hobophobe: you were right, but I didn't see your reply, sorry
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# [23:10] <hobophobe> NeilAway: I should've prefixed with your nick, my fault
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# [23:13] <brahmana> Well, looks like the bug still exists in the newer interface too..!
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# [23:13] <brahmana> Here is the new code that I tried : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1820399
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# [23:19] <hobophobe> brahmana: Did you try the markup in a validator (eg, http://validator.w3.org/ )?
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# [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7a30a7eced4 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 791094 - Fix some warnings about inconsistent uses of struct/class; r=sfink
# [23:21] <hobophobe> brahmana: Span is a non-void, so it's treated as a start tag; see http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/span.html#span-tags
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# [23:22] <brahmana> aah... its stated very clearly .. "A span element must have both a start tag and an end tag." .. thanks hobophobe
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# [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a7b25bc580e - Brian Nicholson - Bug 791051 - Make sure tab exists for session restore. r=mfinkle
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# [23:25] <catlee> anybody else noticed firefox randomly deciding pages aren't accessible?
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# [23:25] <catlee> seems like a recent thing
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# [23:26] <hobophobe> My try builds for bug 87717 keeps having all-fail on Android: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=27f64e25326c in the style of bug 719377
# [23:26] <hobophobe> Is that something to worry about? Ie, is it possible the patch is to blame?
# [23:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7102138abfb0 - Wes Johnston - Bug 785496 - Don't open Helper Apps if a callback was passed in. r=mfinkle
# [23:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d6adbfe2970 - Wes Johnston - Bug 783921 - Follow up to fix jni function names. r=mfinkle
# [23:27] <RyanVM> edmorley: so, robocop is perma-orange?
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# [23:27] <edmorley> RyanVM: no idea, eating dinner :-)
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# [23:28] <edmorley> RyanVM: ah on inbound, post 4607eda1a89f ?
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# [23:29] <RyanVM> edmorley: sure looks that way
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# [23:30] <RyanVM> edmorley: also, tbpl doesn't appear to be matching test_reftests_with_caret.html failures anymore
# [23:30] <edmorley> RyanVM: unfortunate the failure mode matches the known orange
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# [23:30] <edmorley> RyanVM: yeah, I mentioned that in the prefetching followup bug, going to take a look at that tomorrow
# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67bd3c78733f - Ehsan Akhgari - Remove an unneeded header from nsDOMStorage.cpp, no bug, r=me
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# [23:32] <philor> hobophobe: are you pushing mozilla-aurora or -beta?
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# [23:33] <hobophobe> philor: mozilla-central
# [23:33] <philor> hobophobe: then yeah, you should be worried :(
# [23:33] <RyanVM> edmorley: I'll be backing out 4607eda1a89f now
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# [23:35] <karl> chrisccoulson: looking at nsLayoutUtils::GetFrameTransparency, i suspect most of the aBackgroundFrame dates back to when we had multiple child windows; it doesn't make sense to set the window translucency based on a frame that covers only part of the window
# [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2deb477dc2b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 4607eda1a89f (bug 652168) due to robocop orange.
# [23:36] <karl> chrisccoulson: but i don't even know whether the style context of the root frame is available before the window is created
# [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/710e45d86920 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 789340 - Only move sessionstore.js after a crash. r=mfinkle
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# [23:37] <karl> chrisccoulson: using ARGB visuals for all popup windows sounds a reasonable and simple approach to me
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# [23:38] <philor> RyanVM: I just starred a bunch, but somebody has permabusted a sessionstore test, too
# [23:38] <jlebar> "explicit/storage/prefixset/goog-phish-shavar" ha.
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# [23:39] <philor> that somebody probably being mcmanus
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# [23:42] <Jesse> i doubt my bustage fix caused a Tp5 regression. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/qdpCqi2LGtE
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# [23:46] <dholbert> Jesse, but it's believable that the thing you were bustage-fixing might've caused that
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# [23:47] <Jesse> it was a bustage fix for other compilers than the ones used in automation
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# [23:49] <mbrubeck> Jesse: The regression finder is pretty simplistic and names the wrong changeset all the time
# [23:49] <mbrubeck> Jesse: In this case it looks like the real culprit was Ionmonkey
# [23:50] <RyanVM> philor: I'm makign dinner right now. Maybe edmorley or mbrubeck can back mcmanus out if you're sure it was him.
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# [23:52] <mbrubeck> philor, RyanVM: Got it
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# [23:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e59b9b887c25 - Ed Morley - Backout 3182f9d08c2d (bug 347307), 2a30593cca79 (bug 507578), b87b27f5a417 (bug 769764) for m-oth permaorange in browser_463205.js
# [23:53] <mbrubeck> damn, no I don't. ;)
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# [23:53] <philor> heh
# [23:54] <atuljangra> Unfocused: Sorry, I totally forgot about those patches. I'll update the final patch soon.
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# [23:54] <philor> alas, it does back up the pathetic whine of every dev who says "but my crappy test which fails 30 times a day would show a difference if it started failing every single time it runs, so you can't disable it!"
# [23:54] <atuljangra> damn my semester :-/
# [23:54] <philor> only took us 10 or 15 failures to notice
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