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  30. # [00:07] <jduell> ehsan: airport wifi, may be flaky.... So seems like you changed one big thing
  31. # [00:08] <jduell> SetNotificationCallbacks used to only barf if callbacks implemented nsILoadContext, now it barfs unconditionally
  32. # [00:08] <jduell> if that's OK, I guess that's swell (semantics are even more subtle, but we block more use cases, which is good)
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  34. # [00:09] <@ehsan> jduell: I think that's ok...
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  37. # [00:10] <mjrosenb> hey, people who know about our build infrastructure, is make -l supported at all, last time I tried it as an argument to make, it did not work
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  39. # [00:10] <jduell> ehsan: I guess mochitests will tell, and/or nightly users :)
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  42. # [00:10] <mjrosenb> well, there was supposed to be a '?' in there (I may be bad at typing)
  43. # [00:10] <@ehsan> jduell: heh yeah, I'm doing a try job btw
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  45. # [00:10] <@ehsan> jduell: but local testing has not found any problems yet
  46. # [00:11] <jduell> ehsan: ok, knocking off rest of review now
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  48. # [00:11] <@ehsan> jduell: thanks a lot!
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  54. # [00:13] <@ehsan> bnicholson: ping
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  56. # [00:13] <bnicholson> ehsan: pong
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  58. # [00:14] <@ehsan> bnicholson: so, I'm looking at your pb patches
  59. # [00:14] <@ehsan> correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned that mobile wants this per tab, right?
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  65. # [00:15] <bnicholson> ehsan: yes, eventually
  66. # [00:16] <@ehsan> bnicholson: eventually, as in, when we decide to ship it, or as in, some future version after this ships as a global toggle initially?
  67. # [00:17] <bnicholson> ehsan: in the future - we're going to ship private browsing ASAP (so before the global->window transition is complete)
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  70. # [00:18] <bnicholson> where by ship i mean land in nightly
  71. # [00:18] <@ehsan> bnicholson: that's very very unfortunate... but let's pretend that is the right call for a sec ;)
  72. # [00:18] <@ehsan> bnicholson: there are a number of big issues with your patch
  73. # [00:19] <@ehsan> 1. removeDataFromDomain will kill fennec if _anyone_ calls it, a real footgun
  74. # [00:19] <@ehsan> it is currently the most inefficient API we have!
  75. # [00:19] <RyanVM> edmorley: R4++, btw
  76. # [00:19] <@ehsan> so, I really think you need to fix bug 774963 first, and don't bring in that API into fennec
  77. # [00:20] <jdm> mjrosenb: in my experience, make flags need to be added to mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=""
  78. # [00:20] <jduell> ehsan: ok, done for now, gotta run
  79. # [00:20] <@ehsan> 2. I don't necessarily think that the approach of copying over the existing service wholesale and then trimming down the obviously unneeded parts is a good one
  80. # [00:20] <@ehsan> jduell: ty
  81. # [00:21] <@ehsan> bnicholson: there are a lot of intricacies in the desktop version of the service which mobile doens't need
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  83. # [00:21] <@ehsan> things like autostart, the dance that we do to get the session transition work correctly, etc
  84. # [00:21] <@ehsan> bnicholson: have you considered writing up the bits that mobile needs from scratch?
  85. # [00:21] <mjrosenb> jdm: ok, so it *requires
  86. # [00:21] <mjrosenb> jdm: ok, so it *requires* a .mozconfig?
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  89. # [00:22] <jdm> mjrosenb: afaik, if you're using make -f client.mk
  90. # [00:22] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: between that 3->4 chunks change, the hack to not give the new tegras reftest jobs & the resolution stuff coming in the future; android looking better :-)
  91. # [00:22] <jdm> mjrosenb: if you're running make -C, you can do whatever you want
  92. # [00:22] * mjrosenb runs configure then make -l 12
  93. # [00:22] <mjrosenb> but it only uses one core
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  96. # [00:22] <mjrosenb> presumably, the -l is not getting passed into sub-invocations?
  97. # [00:23] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: even before the reftest change, jmaher said was roughly 8% failure (all colours) vs the 20-40% we had before
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  102. # [00:23] <@ehsan> bnicholson: do you prefer me to comment on the bug if you don't have time to talk right now?
  103. # [00:24] <bnicholson> ehsan: sorry, just checking over the patch now to see what we'd be reimplementing
  104. # [00:24] <@ehsan> bnicholson: ok :)
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  106. # [00:24] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: I just look forward to the coming tbpl changes to make starring them easier
  107. # [00:24] <RyanVM> that will ease a lot of pain
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  109. # [00:25] <edmorley|away> yeah :-)
  110. # [00:25] <edmorley|away> a number of the changes are going to need to be in the various test harnesses, so we at least get useable strings
  111. # [00:25] <edmorley|away> eg the connecting... reconnecting,... one
  112. # [00:25] <bnicholson> ehsan: you don't think it'd be simpler to just remove the parts that aren't relevant to mobile?
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  114. # [00:26] <@ehsan> bnicholson: not necessarily... the code in the pb service is extremely complicated unfortunately, and I need to spend several hours if not days to remember everything that you need to remove...
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  116. # [00:26] <@ehsan> bnicholson: I mean, it _looks_ simple but there are a large number of subtle hacks to work around the suckiness in other parts of browser/
  117. # [00:27] <@ehsan> and none of that should be necessary
  118. # [00:27] <bnicholson> ehsan: that's what i was afraid of (but in reverse) - i figured some things *would* be necessary that i didn't fully understand
  119. # [00:27] <bnicholson> and that omitting them would cause subtle things to break
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  122. # [00:27] <@ehsan> bnicholson: also, just to give you context on why I think doing a global service is a terrible idea, we're perhaps between 5-10 bugs away from supporting per-docshell PB for mobile's needs
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  124. # [00:28] <@ehsan> bnicholson: I believe that starting from a clean slate would give me a much better chance to spot the missing bits
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  126. # [00:29] <bnicholson> ehsan: ok - i'll try rewriting it then
  127. # [00:30] <@ehsan> bnicholson: ok. I'll post a summary on the bug for others' sake
  128. # [00:30] <@ehsan> bnicholson: oh, forgot one thing
  129. # [00:30] <@ehsan> bnicholson: about the about:pb thing, have you talked to the UX folks on what type of UI they want?
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  131. # [00:31] <@ehsan> cause if they want something different, about:pb would be pointless
  132. # [00:32] <bnicholson> ehsan: i haven't, i'll ask
  133. # [00:32] <bnicholson> i guess it wouldn't be very useful for per-tab private browsing
  134. # [00:32] <bnicholson> i'm not sure per-tab private browsing is set in stone yet, it seems like it would be difficult UI IMO
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  136. # [00:33] <bnicholson> e.g., you have a tab open, you switch to private browsing, you open another tab
  137. # [00:33] <bnicholson> i would have expected the new tab to also be in private browsing
  138. # [00:33] <jdm> mjrosenb: ...what is -l? do you mean -j?
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  140. # [00:34] <mjrosenb> jdm: no, -l X says "spawn new compilation tasks while the load is less than X, which is useful when I wish to build the shell with 10 different configurations
  141. # [00:34] <@ehsan> bnicholson: yes that is a reasonable assumption...
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  143. # [00:34] <mjrosenb> s/shell/browser
  144. # [00:35] <jdm> huh
  145. # [00:35] <jdm> interesting
  146. # [00:35] <@ehsan> bnicholson: I would actually be interested to get in touch with people who make the ux call for this (I don't know who they are)
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  148. # [00:35] <@ehsan> bnicholson: given the fact that all competition browsers on mobile do have a per-tab PB implementation
  149. # [00:36] <bnicholson> ehsan: they do?
  150. # [00:36] <bnicholson> i thought they were per-window
  151. # [00:36] <@ehsan> bnicholson: per-window?
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  153. # [00:36] <jdm> ehsan: you could try ibarlow, perhaps
  154. # [00:36] <@ehsan> I mean, do we have more than 1 window?
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  156. # [00:36] <@ehsan> jdm: will do
  157. # [00:36] <bnicholson> ehsan: no, but we don't have private browsing now
  158. # [00:37] <bnicholson> if you look at chrome, they only have one window until you open a private browsing tab
  159. # [00:37] <bnicholson> then there are two windows that you can switch between (one private, one regular)
  160. # [00:37] <@ehsan> bnicholson: hmm, let me check again
  161. # [00:38] <@ehsan> bnicholson: (need to turn on this test phone, hang on for a sec please)
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  163. # [00:38] <bnicholson> sure
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  165. # [00:38] <bnicholson> the fact that they open a new private window isn't obvious until you try to change tabs
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  167. # [00:39] <bnicholson> since the menu actually says "new incognito tab"
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  170. # [00:40] <mjrosenb> jdm: so is it expected that -l is not passed into sub-invocations of make?
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  172. # [00:40] <@ehsan> bnicholson: oh ok, I see what you mean now
  173. # [00:40] <@ehsan> that just looks to me like a sane way of organizing the tab
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  175. # [00:40] <@ehsan> bnicholson: speaking in our platform jargon, that's per-tab/docshell
  176. # [00:40] <jdm> mjrosenb: no clue
  177. # [00:41] <bnicholson> ehsan: yeah...i guess when i think of "window", i just look at it as a collection of tabs
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  179. # [00:41] <@ehsan> bnicholson: right, it's fine, different terminology
  180. # [00:41] <@ehsan> bnicholson: but we're both talking about the same thing :)
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  191. # [00:48] <@smaug> jesup: will review the patch tomorrow
  192. # [00:48] <@smaug> hopefully morning CET
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  205. # [01:03] <bnicholson> ehsan: any reason we shouldn't implement autostart pb on mobile?
  206. # [01:03] <@ehsan> bnicholson: do we want to support it?
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  208. # [01:03] <mfinkle> would we want autostart for OOM restarts?
  209. # [01:03] <@smaug> grrrr
  210. # [01:03] <mfinkle> or is that handled a different way?
  211. # [01:04] <@smaug> does anyone know who does the ringmark testsuite
  212. # [01:04] <bnicholson> mfinkle: it's handled differently right now
  213. # [01:04] <@smaug> like, any contacts?
  214. # [01:04] <mfinkle> go into PB, switch to another app, android kills firefox, switch back to firefox
  215. # [01:04] <@smaug> it has obviously wrong tests
  216. # [01:04] <@ehsan> mfinkle: autostart implement the "never remember" history option on desktop
  217. # [01:04] <@ehsan> mfinkle: aka, permanent PB mode
  218. # [01:04] <mfinkle> ok
  219. # [01:04] <@ehsan> it's not suitable for handling OOMs
  220. # [01:05] <mfinkle> smaug, wesj might know
  221. # [01:05] <@ehsan> smaug: ping jprmc
  222. # [01:05] <mfinkle> or that
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  225. # [01:06] * @smaug needs to go through the tests
  226. # [01:06] <@smaug> looks worse than ACID3 ever was
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  228. # [01:07] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: am I going crazy, or do armv6 tests not show on tbpl until they are complete?
  229. # [01:07] <jesup> smaug: cool, thanks
  230. # [01:08] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: pending/running picks up hidden builds changes immediately, previously finished results do not; might that be why? (given the recent switching around of hidden builds due to r3/r4)
  231. # [01:08] <edmorley|away> i'll keep an eye out tomorrow anyway :-)
  232. # [01:09] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: maybe, I guess? I re-triggered R4 on m-c but don't see it running
  233. # [01:09] <edmorley|away> it is now hidden
  234. # [01:09] <philor> pretty sure they sometimes show
  235. # [01:09] <RyanVM> self-serve shows that it is
  236. # [01:09] <philor> oh, you probably retriggered it while I was hiding it
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  238. # [01:09] <RyanVM> ah...
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  240. # [01:09] <RyanVM> yeah, it disappeared with a ctrl+f5
  241. # [01:10] <edmorley|away> this is basically similar to the issues blocking bug 683833
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  243. # [01:10] <edmorley|away> in that hidden builders changes are actually picked up on the 2 min refresh; the UI just isn't updated for builds that had already been seen as finished, unless something else forces that push to be redrawn
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  246. # [01:12] <imelven> i have some oranges on mozilla-aurora
  247. # [01:12] <imelven> that look a little suspect
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  249. # [01:13] <imelven> not sure what the process is here...
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  253. # [01:15] <mbrubeck> imelven: looking...
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  255. # [01:15] <imelven> mbrubeck: thanks
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  258. # [01:17] <imelven> hooray stars
  259. # [01:17] <mbrubeck> imelven: I can't get the log to load for this last one...
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  261. # [01:17] <imelven> yeah, it times out for me as well...
  262. # [01:17] * mbrubeck goes straight to ftp
  263. # [01:18] <imelven> the 10.7 opt unaught exception was the one that concerned me most (which you starred)
  264. # [01:18] <RyanVM> edmorley|away is working on the timeouts, IIRC
  265. # [01:18] <mbrubeck> okay, got it
  266. # [01:19] <imelven> mbrubeck: thanks very much ! :D
  267. # [01:19] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: bug 790889
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  270. # [01:21] <johns> ehsan: Is the hg-git problem you're seeing lots of git 'bad object' complaints?
  271. # [01:21] <@ehsan> johns: it's missing commits and missing blobs when running git fsck
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  274. # [01:22] <johns> ehsan: I might've run into this with my git mirror in the past
  275. # [01:22] <johns> hg can have orphan commits that arn't connected to any branch or tag, but git considers those 'lost' and can auto-prune them
  276. # [01:23] <johns> however they've been recorded in the map file, so if they get pruned, but later added onto a branch, hg-git thinks they've been ported over, but have not
  277. # [01:23] <@ehsan> hmm wait
  278. # [01:23] <@ehsan> johns: you mean hg commits can have no parents?
  279. # [01:24] <johns> ehsan: It can have heads that arn't the default tip and also aren't tagged
  280. # [01:24] <@ehsan> oh, well that's fine
  281. # [01:24] <johns> git requires all heads be a named branch or tag, or they're considered garbage and can be GC'd when |git gc| is run (which happens automatically)
  282. # [01:24] <@ehsan> johns: what I was seeing was git commits with a parent sha1 which did not exist
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  284. # [01:25] <johns> ehsan: Right, so those commits get exported, but then git-gc is invoked and nukes them as garbage
  285. # [01:25] <@ehsan> johns: oh wait
  286. # [01:25] <johns> but they're in the git-mapfile
  287. # [01:25] <@ehsan> I see what you mean now
  288. # [01:25] <johns> and hg-git melts down
  289. # [01:25] <@ehsan> yeah, makes sense...
  290. # [01:25] <johns> I wrote a script for my git mirror to fix this issue, I'm trying it on a clone of yours now to see if I can repair it
  291. # [01:25] <jprmc> smaug: hi
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  293. # [01:25] <bnicholson> ehsan: would you object to just throwing a NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED exception now for removeDataFromDomain() so we wouldnt need to land bug 774963 as a prerequisite?
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  295. # [01:25] <bnicholson> i assume you wanted bug 774963 to keep a working API, but if that's the case, we have the same problem with autoStarted and lastChangedByCommandLine, right?
  296. # [01:26] <@ehsan> johns: the broken repo is on my local hard disk
  297. # [01:26] <jprmc> smaug: jet and dbaron are involved with the coremob doing ringmark
  298. # [01:26] <@ehsan> johns: can you please give me your script?
  299. # [01:26] <jprmc> smaug: if there are problems you should let them know
  300. # [01:26] <johns> ehsan: Right, I clone'd the github mirror and caught it up (and ran into the same issue)
  301. # [01:26] <jprmc> smaug: in general ringmark is being driven by facebook
  302. # [01:26] <@ehsan> bnicholson: that sounds really dirty, why not fix it the right way? :)
  303. # [01:26] <wesj> smaug: ringmark is facebook
  304. # [01:27] <wesj> its on github
  305. # [01:27] <@ehsan> johns: hmm but how would those commits get pushed anywhere if they're not accessible from any heads?
  306. # [01:27] <wesj> https://github.com/facebook/rng.io/
  307. # [01:28] <@smaug> jprmc: there are plenty of problems
  308. # [01:28] <@smaug> even just a quick look at
  309. # [01:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8522498a85a3 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 789941 - Remove stdc++compat.cpp support on OS X. r=benjamin.
  310. # [01:28] <johns> ehsan: They wouldn't, but they'd be recorded in the mapfile, so if later a commit was exported that had them as a parent, hg-git would not re-export them, but the repo would lack them
  311. # [01:28] <bnicholson> ehsan: time mainly, we wanted PB to be in 18 if possible
  312. # [01:28] <@smaug> without really looking at the tests
  313. # [01:28] <bnicholson> doesnt seem like it would be a trivial change: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=removedatafromdomain&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central
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  315. # [01:28] <johns> ehsan: My rather-slow script to fix it: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1820601
  316. # [01:28] <@ehsan> bnicholson: but that bug is very easy to fix :)
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  318. # [01:28] <johns> ehsan: Assumes you're in the git directory, and you need to edit the path to the mapfile in
  319. # [01:29] <johns> ehsan: It just stats every commit in the map file and trashes it if missing
  320. # [01:29] <jprmc> smaug: the related bug is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748248
  321. # [01:29] <johns> ehsan: You then re-run the hg gexport, and it will properly export missing commits
  322. # [01:29] <@ehsan> johns: makes sense
  323. # [01:29] <jprmc> smaug: i think the priority for jet right now is the input form stuff
  324. # [01:29] <@ehsan> johns: you know what, I am almost certain that this is the problem
  325. # [01:29] <@ehsan> johns: since the bad commits were very old...
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  327. # [01:30] <@ehsan> johns: I need to go home now, but I'll kick off your script and will try to spend some time on it tonight and see what happens :)
  328. # [01:30] <johns> ehsan: And to prevent it from occuring in the future, you need to turn off auto-pruning of orphan commits in the git repo with the gc.pruneexpire setting in .git/config
  329. # [01:30] <johns> ehsan: I'm also trying to get a repaired repo online, i'll let you know if its successful
  330. # [01:30] <@smaug> jprmc: I'll file some bugs on their github
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  332. # [01:31] <sicking> fabrice: did you mean to post a push link instead of a bugzilla link in the last comment of bug 788125?
  333. # [01:31] <wesj> jprmc: smaug: there's also bug 748250
  334. # [01:31] <wesj> but i think my comments in there are pretty out of date now
  335. # [01:31] <@ehsan> johns: thanks so much for your help :)
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  337. # [01:33] <jprmc> smaug: sounds great
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  354. # [01:47] <@ehsan> johns: running your script now... it's quite verbose ;)
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  356. # [01:50] <fabrice> sicking: err... yes
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  362. # [01:52] <sicking> fabrice: sweet :)
  363. # [01:53] <fabrice> copy/paste failure :)
  364. # [01:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a00235720e0 - Benjamin Peterson - No bug - tweak comment. r=me DONTBUILD
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  366. # [01:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8604438c67ad - Ben Turner - Bug 755943 - 'Electrolysize b2g-bluetooth'. r=qDot+cjones.
  367. # [01:56] <cjones> \o/
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  385. # [02:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d39c810749ce - Sean Stangl - Bug 790921 - Return on error from patchableCallPreBarrier(). r=dvander
  386. # [02:10] <cpearce> I updated my repo to an old revision, and I get the following build error: "TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | check-sync-dirs.py | build file copies are not in sync" Even if I delete my objdir I get this. how can I fix this?
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  389. # [02:11] <nthomas> check for decendants that fix that error ?
  390. # [02:11] <NeilAway> cpearce: bug in your source, maybe there's a followup revision to back out / fix it
  391. # [02:12] <nthomas> it's basically saying that the js copy of the build system got out of sync
  392. # [02:12] <cpearce> nthomas: the js copy lives in the objdir though right? and I deleted that....
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  394. # [02:13] <nthomas> in js/src/ I think
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  396. # [02:14] <Mook_as> are there any tips on staring at nsTHashtable<nsCharHashKey>s in gdb?
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  398. # [02:14] <cpearce> nthomas: thanks, copying it over manually appears to be working.
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  410. # [02:24] <stephend> sorry, dolske, remind me again who'd be good to ask about a canvas bug?
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  413. # [02:26] <stephend> STR are: 1. load http://qa-selenium-stage.mv.mozilla.com:8080/job/socorro.dev.redesign/80/HTML_Report/? 2. on Windows, click the screenshot for any of the "options are sorted the same" failures
  414. # [02:26] <stephend> then click on the resulting thumbnail
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  425. # [02:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/34395b7b10f6 - Landry Breuil - Bug 790750 - Add OpenBSD backend to mozboot; r=gps DONTBUILD
  426. # [02:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/150886c947f0 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 790995 - Change how root commands are executed; r=jhammel
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  433. # [02:38] <philor> bent: yep
  434. # [02:38] <bent> philor, hey, what do you make of these tegra timeouts? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15203961&tree=Firefox&full=1
  435. # [02:38] <bent> philor, is that something you've seen before?
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  437. # [02:39] <philor> bent: "with repeated reconnecting socket unable to connect socket" or something like that (to me, it's just 'rec' in the awesomebar)
  438. # [02:39] <philor> bug 681861
  439. # [02:39] <RyanVM> philor: bent: never seen it before
  440. # [02:40] <bent> philor, i have like five of them on m-c now
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  443. # [02:40] <bent> recommendations?
  444. # [02:40] <bent> leave it in?
  445. # [02:41] <bent> wait for the next solar wind?
  446. # [02:41] <philor> leave it in
  447. # [02:41] <philor> look at the bug
  448. # [02:41] <philor> count how many we see in an average day
  449. # [02:41] <@roc> what does "Timeout waiting for log generation." mean in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15183657&tree=Try&full=1 ?
  450. # [02:41] <bent> clustered like this?
  451. # [02:41] <philor> yay, our very first Android No-Ion result is in
  452. # [02:41] <philor> "unable to ping tegra"
  453. # [02:42] <mbrubeck> roc: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=790889
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  455. # [02:42] <mbrubeck> roc: Fallout from recent TBPL changes
  456. # [02:42] <philor> roc: it means, that now is a very bad time to fail in debug mochitest-other, because you'll have to dig the log off ftp and look at it by hand
  457. # [02:42] <philor> like an animal!
  458. # [02:42] <fabrice> philor: I got this on a try build: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15203605&tree=Try
  459. # [02:42] <fabrice> is this an infra issue?
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  461. # [02:43] <@roc> philor: as long as I can get the log ... but how do I find the FTP URL?
  462. # [02:43] <philor> fabrice: bug 718929
  463. # [02:43] <mbrubeck> fabrice: looks like it's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718929
  464. # [02:43] <philor> roc: from the "go to build directory" link for the build
  465. # [02:44] <mbrubeck> roc: Click on the corresponding "B" on tbpl and then click "Go to build directory" in the footer
  466. # [02:44] <fabrice> philor: thanks!
  467. # [02:44] * mbrubeck is just a slower but more verbose philor
  468. # [02:44] <@roc> I love both of you equally
  469. # [02:45] * philor had actually typed "/me is the shorter mbrubeck" :)
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  471. # [02:46] <mbrubeck> should have waited for that one
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  476. # [02:53] <Callek> philor: so fyi....
  477. # [02:53] <Callek> #1 we're enabling ionmonkey on armv7 android "shortly" (thanks aki)
  478. # [02:53] <Callek> #2 we have added load due to non-ionmonkey jobs now
  479. # [02:54] <Callek> #3 we enabled armv6 reftests on aurora/beta (I don't get know what the failures look like there)
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  484. # [02:54] <aki> i think i'm pushing to inbound for #1
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  488. # [02:57] <@roc> I'm starting to trust "hg pull --rebase" to rebase my enormous stack of applied mq patches
  489. # [02:57] <@roc> that, plus learning to use kdiff3, is making my life better
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  497. # [03:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/95d1ec903b6b - Gregory Szorc - Bug 790995 - Part 2: Tie stdin to executed processes; r=me DONTBUILD
  498. # [03:03] <philor> aurora and beta are such a sewer of ignored failure, doesn't much matter to me what happens down there
  499. # [03:04] <@dolske> stephend: I think I was suggesting joe (joe drew)
  500. # [03:04] <joe> hi
  501. # [03:04] <@dolske> I don't rememeber what I suspected the problem was!
  502. # [03:04] <@dolske> joe: hi
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  504. # [03:05] <joe> i don't even know what you're talking about
  505. # [03:05] <@dolske> stephend in backscroll
  506. # [03:05] <stephend> joe: are you connected to Mozilla-MV's VPN?
  507. # [03:05] <stephend> or, can you be?
  508. # [03:05] <joe> i can be
  509. # [03:05] <@dolske> was this windows-specific?
  510. # [03:06] <stephend> can reproduce on mac nightly too
  511. # [03:06] <stephend> http://screencast.com/t/2uuN6iOay
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  513. # [03:07] <joe> stephend: i'm on the mv VPN now
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  515. # [03:07] <joe> stephend: apparently now I'm looking at your screen via screencast?
  516. # [03:07] <joe> oh i guess that was a recording
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  518. # [03:08] <stephend> yeah, for a quick overview
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  520. # [03:09] <stephend> it's a canvas element using data: URLs to do screenshots, in a <iframe>
  521. # [03:09] <joe> stephend: http://qa-selenium-stage.mv.mozilla.com:8080/job/socorro.dev.redesign/80/HTML_Report/ is that black for you?
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  523. # [03:09] <stephend> no
  524. # [03:09] <stephend> only happens on a screenshot within that report
  525. # [03:09] <stephend> for the screenshot on test_that_only_browser_reports_have_browser_icon
  526. # [03:09] <stephend> and once you click the long, tiny thumbnail
  527. # [03:09] <joe> yep, can reproduce
  528. # [03:10] <stephend> you aware of any simiilar bugs?
  529. # [03:10] <stephend> I'm happy to file
  530. # [03:10] <joe> not off the top of my head
  531. # [03:10] * @dolske sees it too
  532. # [03:10] <joe> having a minimalish test case would be helpful
  533. # [03:10] <joe> :)
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  535. # [03:10] <joe> it's almost definitely a layers bug
  536. # [03:10] <stephend> yeah, I can hopefully get mw22 to help with that
  537. # [03:10] <joe> oh and I know what the bug is too
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  539. # [03:10] <joe> it's 20k pixels long
  540. # [03:11] <joe> we just don't support canvases that big
  541. # [03:11] <stephend> ah
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  544. # [03:11] <stephend> is it a future/wontfix thing?
  545. # [03:11] <joe> (nobody does reliably)
  546. # [03:11] <stephend> aha
  547. # [03:11] <joe> it's not a wontfix
  548. # [03:11] <joe> i would accept a fix to it
  549. # [03:11] <joe> but it's sooo unlikely for us to fix
  550. # [03:11] * stephend nods
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  553. # [03:12] <Unfocused> so you're saying i *shouldn't* expense a 20k by 20k res monitor?
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  555. # [03:12] <stephend> where in Core would this live?
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  559. # [03:12] <@dolske> workaround: just link to the image itself
  560. # [03:13] <Callek> Unfocused: I tried expensing a 40k x 40k res monitor, and I got told no.
  561. # [03:13] <Unfocused> :(
  562. # [03:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3799f9cfee8 - Gary Kwong - Bug 791146 - Fix the property name of JS_THREADSAFE in GetBuildConfiguration to 'threadsafe', and remove duplicate JSGC_ROOT_ANALYSIS ifdef block, r=sfink
  563. # [03:13] <Callek> of course I tried that before I was conrtacted
  564. # [03:13] <@dolske> we only allow 16:9 displays. please.
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  566. # [03:14] <stephend> Graphics: Layers
  567. # [03:14] <stephend> found it
  568. # [03:14] <stephend> will file in a bit
  569. # [03:14] <stephend> ty guys
  570. # [03:14] <joe> yw
  571. # [03:14] <stephend> I gotta run, so later tonight
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  580. # [03:18] <nrc> I think we try to support canvases that big - we don't support them with HWA, but we should fallback to a a canvas backed by Cairo to handle them. We have lots of code specifically to do that, so I would be disappointed if that was the only reason for the bug
  581. # [03:19] <Unfocused> dolske: well i have a 16:9 monitor. SO THERE
  582. # [03:20] <Unfocused> er, 9:16
  583. # [03:20] * Unfocused screwed that one up
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  586. # [03:23] <@dolske> heh
  587. # [03:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f9d4f98f133 - Aki Sasaki - bug 789373 - reenable ionmonkey for android armv7. r=dvander
  588. # [03:24] <@dolske> 6:91 would also work
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  611. # [03:39] <philor> we apparently hid them in July during that "hide them until their failure rate is acceptable" thing, and then just forgot to unhide them until I did it this week, I wonder if that means we don't really need or want them
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  623. # [03:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc43a4e4ee95 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 789703 Allow to query the selection without write lock in InsertTextAtSelection() r=jimm
  624. # [03:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a20a844caec - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 790561 Separate InsertTextAtSelection() r=jimm
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  639. # [04:00] <philor> as much as I make fun of the idea of automatic starring, there is one thing we absolutely should automatically star: when the bug with the slave's name as an alias is open
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  642. # [04:01] <mjrosenb> well, that is strange
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  644. # [04:01] <mjrosenb> entering http://gcc.gnu.org into the awesomebar redirects me to ftp://gcc.gnu.org
  645. # [04:02] <mjrosenb> this is not the first time that this has happened to me
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  654. # [04:08] <Unfocused> mjrosenb: congrats, you've found an inline autocomplete bug! please proceed to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Firefox&component=Location%20Bar to claim your prize
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  662. # [04:16] <johns> mjrosenb: Did you open a bug for that? I think i've seen the same thing. Autocomplete got it into its head that my router supported https, now explicitly typing "http://192.168.0.1/" into the address bar and hitting enter sticks an s in there and fails to connect :(
  663. # [04:17] <mjrosenb> so the thing that I am afraid of is, my browser has been running for a while
  664. # [04:17] <mjrosenb> and if I restart it, this will go away
  665. # [04:17] <johns> mjrosenb: I just threw http://192.168.0.1/ at my build from a few days ago and it successfully snuck an s in there, so I suspect its still around
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  671. # [04:19] <mjrosenb> nope, that one does not get transmorgified
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  673. # [04:19] <johns> I think it's because I explicitly went to https://192.168.0.1 at some point, so that's in my autocomplete
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  675. # [04:19] <johns> and now typing the non-s version in "autocompletes" to the one with an s, e.g. the url is the same but it still swaps the protocol around
  676. # [04:20] <mjrosenb> the only time i've ever gone to ftp.gcc.gnu.org was when firefox redirected me there.
  677. # [04:20] <johns> mjrosenb: Are you positive on that? Does typing http://gcc.gnu.o into the awesomebar have any suggestions?
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  682. # [04:23] <Unfocused> mjrosenb: i was able to reproduce it - it happens because the ftp:// URL has a higher priority, and inline autocomplete strips the protocol for matching
  683. # [04:23] <Unfocused> it is, in fact, a bug
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  685. # [04:25] <johns> Unfocused: Yeah it looks like the same thing is happening for me: http://i.imgur.com/aXe6R.png
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  687. # [04:25] <johns> In my case adding the trailing slash seems to deter autocomplete
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  689. # [04:27] <mjrosenb> well, that is odd
  690. # [04:27] <mjrosenb> http://gcc. has the first autocmplete of htpp://gcc.gnu.org
  691. # [04:28] <mjrosenb> http://gcc.gnu. has as its first autocomplete entry ftp://gcc.gnu.org
  692. # [04:28] <johns> It seems like it's ignoring the protocol entirely
  693. # [04:28] <johns> so since you've been to ftp://gcc.gnu.org, it sees "gcc.gnu." and autocompletes to that
  694. # [04:29] <Unfocused> iirc, it does (completely ignore the protocol)
  695. # [04:29] <mjrosenb> right. but why doesn't it do that for http://gcc.
  696. # [04:29] <mjrosenb> anyhow, the only items in the autocomplete list are for things that I looked at after it misdirected me
  697. # [04:29] <mjrosenb> I can check in my history as well
  698. # [04:29] <mjrosenb> is it possible that it is pulling from downloads?
  699. # [04:29] * Unfocused shrugs
  700. # [04:30] <mjrosenb> I bet gcc.gnu.org has all of their file links coming from their ftp server, and I'm sure I've grabbed a few of those
  701. # [04:30] <mjrosenb> anyhow
  702. # [04:30] <mjrosenb> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791155
  703. # [04:30] <Unfocused> file a bug either way :) i was touching that code recently, and from what i remember from that code, that bug makes sense
  704. # [04:30] <Unfocused> ah, ty
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  707. # [04:31] <mjrosenb> yeah, looking for ftp://gcc.gnu.org in my history only returns things that i looked at today
  708. # [04:32] <mjrosenb> is it possible to get the date of search results in the history?
  709. # [04:32] <mjrosenb> actually, that would only matter if I could get every date that I visited something
  710. # [04:32] <mjrosenb> since I just visited everything in my history for ftp://gcc.gnu.org
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  787. # [05:55] <philor> the amusing part of http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/31061779363/disable-java-in-your-browser-kids, though, is that if you do, you will be unable to run tests without leaking
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  792. # [06:03] <mjrosenb> philor: you happen to know who I shuold cc on a request for a new feature to the makefile?
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  796. # [06:04] <mjrosenb> oh, neato.
  797. # [06:04] <mjrosenb> philor: yeah, this is the make -l thing.
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  833. # [07:02] <njn> philor: my win64 build red on inbound looks like infra problem, is that right?
  834. # [07:02] <@roc> Hmm
  835. # [07:02] <njn> philor: retrigger?
  836. # [07:03] <@roc> in my Windows build, my CPUs seem to be mostly occupied by mspdbsrv.exe
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  842. # [07:07] <philor> njn: starred and retriggered
  843. # [07:08] <njn> philor: danke
  844. # [07:08] <philor> a little poetic license to call that rm failure the same as the test buildstep failure, but I'm nothing if not poetic about starring
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  865. # [07:24] <sawrubh> I'm getting error upon building on Linux Ubuntu 12.04 : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1821111
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  867. # [07:24] <sawrubh> I pulled this morning itself
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  869. # [07:25] <sawrubh> I deleted my obdir and even then the same error creeps in
  870. # [07:25] <Unfocused> error in question: 'js/Utility.h' file not found
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  873. # [07:26] <mattwoodrow> Anyone know how to check for linux 32 from a mochitest?
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  878. # [07:28] <padenot> mattwoodrow: navigator.userAgent is what comes to mind
  879. # [07:29] <sawrubh> when I did a search in m-c, I see a Utility.h in m-c/js/public and a link to Utility.h in m-c/js/src/dist/include/js
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  891. # [07:38] <gaston> hmmm ionmonkey landed as default ? is there a related bug # ?
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  895. # [07:39] <gaston> (it doesnt build on sparc64, fwiw.... should try on ppc)
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  901. # [07:43] <KWierso|Home> gaston: I don't see a bug number in any of the merge's commits related to the merge itself
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  904. # [07:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e5af3d785252 - Doug Turner - Bug 791084 - Device storage - Seperate permissions based on storage type. r=bent
  905. # [07:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b040fefd038e - Doug Turner - Bug 788612 - Move bundle handing into nsDOMDeviceStorage to avoid calls to the nsIStringBundleService. r=bent
  906. # [07:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7ad6e513e114 - Doug Turner - No Bug. Whitespace cleanup. r=me
  907. # [07:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6996c091767d - Doug Turner - Bug 787299 - Device Storage - Filter out mimetypes during calculation of disk usages. r=bent
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  909. # [07:49] <cjones> oh man, dougt patches reviewed by bent
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  912. # [07:50] <Callek> cjones: what are the odds on that bet?
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  915. # [07:51] <cjones> not good
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  918. # [07:52] <Callek> p.s. apparantly dougt never pushes to try
  919. # [07:52] <Callek> I tried hitting the down arrow like 30 times so far
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  930. # [08:00] <gaston> oh fuck, ppc is more broken than i though..
  931. # [08:00] <gaston> it's not even ionmonkey
  932. # [08:01] <gaston> checking for llvm pr8927... yes
  933. # [08:01] <gaston> This compiler would miscompile firefox, plase upgrade.
  934. # [08:01] <gaston> see http://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites
  935. # [08:01] <gaston> for more information.
  936. # [08:01] <gaston> i'm using gcc 4.6.3 ......
  937. # [08:01] <gaston> (and not on macosx, obviously)
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  1042. # [09:42] <gcp> Firefox 17 will be an ESR update to 10, right?
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  1044. # [09:42] <gcp> I wonder if anyone did much testing on that upgrade path
  1045. # [09:43] <Callek> gcp: yes, afaik, esr10.0.x --> ESR17.02
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  1047. # [09:43] <Callek> presuming 17 supports their OS
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  1104. # [10:34] <graememcc> edmorley: double apologies
  1105. # [10:35] <graememcc> edmorley: I quietly disapprove whenever I see someone forgetting the bug number. And now I've totally lost the moral high ground!
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  1110. # [10:37] <graememcc> edmorley: also, I didn't see your follow-up comment for the tracking/status thing. Bitbucket mails me when an issue is filed, but I've only just discovered it doesn't send me further comments unless I explicitly watch the bug
  1111. # [10:38] <graememcc> edmorley: I've nearly finished the patch. If only I'd seen you volunteering...
  1112. # [10:40] <edmorley> graememcc: not a problem :-)
  1113. # [10:40] <edmorley> graememcc: ah!
  1114. # [10:40] <edmorley> yeah the notifications for bitbucket are strange
  1115. # [10:41] <edmorley> graememcc: thank you for working on it :-)
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  1117. # [10:43] <graememcc> np
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  1139. # [11:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35c8685ee065 - Gina Yeh - Bug 790133 - Final version: Fire devicecreated event with a BluetoothDevice, r=qdot, sr=mrbkap
  1140. # [11:09] <@smaug> glob: ping
  1141. # [11:09] <glob> smaug, pong
  1142. # [11:09] <@smaug> glob: can I mark messages in the irc logs
  1143. # [11:09] <glob> smaug, nope
  1144. # [11:09] <@smaug> k
  1145. # [11:09] <glob> smaug, you can link to a message, which marks it
  1146. # [11:10] <glob> but you can't mark/star messages and have that persisted
  1147. # [11:10] <glob> eg. http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23developers&s=14+Sep+2012&e=14+Sep+2012#c362315
  1148. # [11:10] <@smaug> sure
  1149. # [11:11] <@smaug> would be nice to be able to mark several messages
  1150. # [11:11] <@smaug> the way one can mark stuff with mxr
  1151. # [11:12] <glob> how do you mark multiple in mxr?
  1152. # [11:13] <glob> smaug, anyhow, nice idea, i'll add that to the suggestions list
  1153. # [11:15] <@smaug> glob: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp?mark=345-347,349-349,356-356#330
  1154. # [11:15] <glob> smaug, ah, same as bugzilla
  1155. # [11:15] <@smaug> ah, yeah, I rarely do marking with bugzilla
  1156. # [11:16] <glob> same :)
  1157. # [11:16] <@smaug> since bugzilla itself, IIRC, doesn't linkify marked urls properly
  1158. # [11:16] <glob> huh?
  1159. # [11:16] <@smaug> IIRC it cuts the URL from #
  1160. # [11:17] * glob fires up https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=linkify.html
  1161. # [11:17] <glob> looks right to me
  1162. # [11:17] <@smaug> what was it then...
  1163. # [11:18] <@smaug> certainly bugzilla wasn't linkifying correctly in all the cases...
  1164. # [11:18] <glob> if you encounter it again, file a bug (or just ping me on irc) and i'll poke it with a stick
  1165. # [11:19] <@smaug> glob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786940&mark=8,9#c7
  1166. # [11:19] <@smaug> your linkify doesn't handle that
  1167. # [11:19] <@smaug> I get link to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786940
  1168. # [11:20] <glob> ahhh
  1169. # [11:20] <glob> thanks!
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  1270. # [12:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb6bf17786b0 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 785072 - Part 1: ICCD DOM API. r=sicking
  1271. # [12:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9935e37117f5 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 785072 - Part 2: RIL implementation. r=vicamo
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  1327. # [13:39] <edmorley> dougt: the m2 is new
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  1329. # [13:39] <edmorley> s/m2/m2 orange/
  1330. # [13:40] <edmorley> new test :-(
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  1339. # [13:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5faccd0b7618 - Ed Morley - Backout e5af3d785252 (bug 791084), 7ad6e513e114, b040fefd038e (bug 788612), 6996c091767d (bug 787299) for introducing new orange
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  1347. # [14:00] <sawrubh> is anyone here on Linux Ubuntu ?
  1348. # [14:01] <sawrubh> I am not able to build since I pulled this morning
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  1353. # [14:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7ceaa28629d - Jan de Mooij - Bug 790108 part 2 - Use AutoValueArray to root argv array. r=terrence
  1354. # [14:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e84c9f521388 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 790108 part 1 - Use HandleObject, MutableHandleValue for pop/shift/push stubs. r=dvander
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  1403. # [14:36] <AryehGregor> edmorley, do you know what the orange here signifies? It seems to be caused by the nsresult-to-enum patch; is the application just hanging or something? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=06d307215d45
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  1409. # [14:37] <AryehGregor> (this is my new last blocker for bug 777292, although every time I fix my last blocker I seem to find a new one)
  1410. # [14:38] <edmorley> AryehGregor: startup crash/hang from the looks of it
  1411. # [14:38] <edmorley> hang, since crashinjectdll.dll has had to force a crash
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  1413. # [14:39] <AryehGregor> Any way to debug?\
  1414. # [14:39] <AryehGregor> It seems not to happen in crashtests or jsreftests, but it does happen in mochitests and reftests?
  1415. # [14:39] <AryehGregor> Oh, no, reftests are a different failure.
  1416. # [14:39] <edmorley> I wouldn't really know, sorry
  1417. # [14:39] <AryehGregor> Okay, thanks.
  1418. # [14:39] <edmorley> the screenshot doesn't help much
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  1431. # [14:46] <graememcc> sawrubh: I've succesfully built e5af3d785252 and 5faccd0b7618 this morning on 12.04
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  1434. # [14:48] <sawrubh> graememcc: how do I check which one is mine at ?
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  1436. # [14:49] <graememcc> sawrubh: hg tip
  1437. # [14:49] <graememcc> if you're mq is empty that is
  1438. # [14:50] <graememcc> think you need hg log -r qparent if you have local patches applied
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  1440. # [14:50] <sawrubh> graememcc: it's 107050:5faccd0b7618 and my mq is empty
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  1442. # [14:51] <sawrubh> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1821729 is the complete output
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  1449. # [14:55] <graememcc> sawrubh: have you tried blowing away your objdir?
  1450. # [14:56] <sawrubh> yes, I have, but to no success :(
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  1458. # [15:02] <capella> sawrubh how is your build failing - did you post that?
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  1461. # [15:06] <sawrubh> capella: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1821805 is the error it gives
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  1465. # [15:07] <capella> seems like ive seen that before - but hasta run ... ill check back leter
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  1467. # [15:08] <capella> check your src folder make sure the file is there
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  1578. # [16:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/812b2c7c6096 - Jacek Caban - Bug 791230 - nsTextStore.cpp fails to compile on GCC (mingw) r=masayuki
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  1585. # [16:31] <jesup> gerv: ping
  1586. # [16:31] <gerv> pong.
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  1589. # [16:33] <jesup> gerv: while reviewing mods the usrsctp authors are doing, I looked at the equivalent file in the webrtc.org codebase (which is in media/webrtc/trunk). I found this gem: Use of this source code is governed by the ACE copyright license which can be found in the LICENSE file in the third_party_mods/ace directory of the source tree or at http://www1.cse.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE-copying.html.
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  1592. # [16:33] <gerv> jesup: OK... why is it a gem?
  1593. # [16:34] <jesup> a) that seems a violation of the license by webrtc.org b) I think we'll need to include that wordy license in licenses.html
  1594. # [16:34] <jesup> Or am I wrong for some reason?
  1595. # [16:34] <gerv> You mean "You must, however, include this copyright statement along with any code built using DOC software that you release."
  1596. # [16:34] <gerv> ?
  1597. # [16:35] <jesup> yes
  1598. # [16:35] <gerv> OK.
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  1600. # [16:35] <gerv> Please file a bug about this, and I'll get to it :-)
  1601. # [16:35] <gerv> Thanks :-)
  1602. # [16:35] <jesup> I suppose webrtc.org didn't "build" the code (though Chrome would need to include it)
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  1605. # [16:40] <ferongr> Timestamp: 14/09/2012 17:29:43
  1606. # [16:40] <ferongr> Error: TypeError: aTabSets is undefined
  1607. # [16:40] <ferongr> Source File: resource:///modules/TabTitleAbridger.jsm
  1608. # [16:41] <ferongr> Line: 159
  1609. # [16:41] <ferongr> this looks like an error of the new tab title code in today's nightly, right?
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  1619. # [16:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc875f57b1dd - Andrew Quartey - Bug 786172 - Fire change event for file dropped on file select box r=mounir
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  1625. # [16:52] <@ted> philor: ping
  1626. # [16:52] <philor> ted: pong
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  1628. # [16:52] <@ted> is there a master bug somewhere tracking all the tests we disabled on 10.7/10.8 because OOP plugin minidumps were broken?
  1629. # [16:52] <@ted> i have a patch to update breakpad, want to make sure it fixes them
  1630. # [16:53] <jesup> gerv: filed
  1631. # [16:53] <gerv> Thanks
  1632. # [16:54] <philor> ted: should just be bug 705047
  1633. # [16:54] <@ted> thanks
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  1636. # [16:56] <philor> ted: oh, and bug 757722, I always forget it
  1637. # [16:56] <@ted> okay, thanks
  1638. # [16:56] <@ted> hopefully this update fixes the whole lot
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  1681. # [17:21] <catlee> so...who currently looks at the valgrind build results?
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  1684. # [17:22] <philor> you said that with a straight face very well
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  1687. # [17:23] <philor> no, but see, if you upgraded Valgrind to a different rev, then...
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  1693. # [17:28] <catlee> well, the new machines have version...
  1694. # [17:28] <catlee> I'll tell you when firefox stops choking on the build log
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  1698. # [17:30] <catlee> 3.6.0-4
  1699. # [17:30] <philor> anyway, you have to sort of ease into it
  1700. # [17:30] <philor> who wants a free lunch?
  1701. # [17:30] <catlee> me
  1702. # [17:30] <catlee> who *doesn't*?
  1703. # [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/338823aa94a6 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 761706 - Bind GeckoNetworkManager to the global application context. r=mfinkle
  1704. # [17:31] <philor> who wants someone else to use Valgrind runs to punish someone other than them?
  1705. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29466c92fe44 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 761706 - Bind GeckoConnectivityReceiver to the global application context. r=mfinkle
  1706. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf2e7dc4182f - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 761706 - Fix indenting in a few classes. r=mfinkle
  1707. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/967eec801160 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 761706 - Move application-level receiver objects from GeckoApp to GeckoApplication. r=mfinkle
  1708. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec6eab545501 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 761706 - Make function private. r=mounir
  1709. # [17:31] <philor> bug 750856 says we need 3.8.0
  1710. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a5e2949c8f3 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 761706 - Bind GeckoBatteryManager to the global application context. r=mfinkle
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  1714. # [17:33] <philor> well, okay, it says we need 3.7, and we need it for Mac, and fails to say why we need it for Mac when we've never lifted a finger to make the Linux results usable
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  1716. # [17:33] <catlee> so, all of this is to say, if we switch the machines running firefox desktop builds, and valgrind builds are *still* broken, nobody will care
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  1720. # [17:36] <philor> right
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  1733. # [17:42] <evilpie> any clang wizard around?
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  1736. # [17:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/325746d17f50 - Gary Kwong - Bug 727223 - Add test, r=me
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  1740. # [17:46] <evilpie> i am trying to use scan-build on js/src, but i get "could not find clang line" after one file
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  1747. # [17:52] <mw22> mrbkap, ping, I was trying to do SpecialPowers.wrap(window).navigator.addIdleObserver, but then I get Error: SecurityError: The operation is insecure. Why does that happen?
  1748. # [17:52] <jimm> bhearsum: I wasn't suggesting doing them in parallel, I think we should go with your original plan of swapping the win32 builds out with the metro builds.
  1749. # [17:52] * philor is now known as philor|away
  1750. # [17:52] <bhearsum> jimm: oh
  1751. # [17:53] <jimm> bhearsum: that's the simplest approach right?
  1752. # [17:53] <bhearsum> i think
  1753. # [17:53] <bhearsum> so
  1754. # [17:53] <bhearsum> but bbondy seems to want them in parallel: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779902#c25
  1755. # [17:54] <@ehsan> johns: ping
  1756. # [17:54] <bbondy> bhearsum, on m-c I want them in parallel, on elm I don't care
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  1758. # [17:54] <bhearsum> ah
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  1760. # [17:54] <bhearsum> bbondy: to be clear, when metro builds land on m-c, you want us to have the existing desktop builds, plus the metro ones?
  1761. # [17:54] <bbondy> I only mentioned it in the elm specific bug in case the work is the same for both, and in case you'd have to do 2x the work
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  1763. # [17:55] <bbondy> bhearsum: that would be nice yes, otherwise we'll have to push everything to both elm and m-c
  1764. # [17:55] <jimm> bholley: depends on the solution we come up with for xp
  1765. # [17:55] <jimm> we might not need parallel builds at all
  1766. # [17:55] <bhearsum> bbondy: okay
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  1768. # [17:55] <bhearsum> so what i would suggest is this then
  1769. # [17:55] <bhearsum> - make the necessary packaging/update platforms changes on elm
  1770. # [17:55] <bhearsum> - change the "win32" mozconfig on elm to build metro
  1771. # [17:55] <bbondy> there is a chance though that MS will come out with vs2012 xp targetting before we get on m-c, but I don't think so
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  1774. # [17:55] <bhearsum> - disable the "win32-metro" builds on elm, once the new "win32" builds look ok
  1775. # [17:56] <bhearsum> that way you won't have any issues with files overwriting each other when you land on m-c
  1776. # [17:56] <jimm> bhearsum: perfect
  1777. # [17:56] <bbondy> k
  1778. # [17:57] <bhearsum> gotta go afk for a bit, let me know if you have any more questions though
  1779. # [17:57] <jimm> bhearsum: with that setup, would you mind confirming in bug 791218 the directory location of the builds for the soccoro folks?
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  1805. # [18:13] <evilpie_> even than i am pretty sure i had a file in js/src with my name in it
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  1828. # [18:26] <dougt> edmorley: ping?
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  1840. # [18:31] <dougt> edmorley: you need to be more careful about backing people out
  1841. # [18:32] <edmorley> dougt: sorry, missed your prior ping
  1842. # [18:32] <edmorley> dougt: in what sense?
  1843. # [18:32] <dougt> edmorley: the oth failure was (a) an x server oom, (b) my changes don't have anything to do with oth test runs
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  1845. # [18:32] <edmorley> dougt: the m2
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  1847. # [18:33] <edmorley> dougt: as mentioned in the comment in each bug
  1848. # [18:33] * dougt looks
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  1850. # [18:33] <edmorley> I had to check :-)
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  1853. # [18:34] <dougt> yeah.
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  1855. # [18:36] <dougt> its a race. it have seen it before.
  1856. # [18:37] <dougt> i'm going to disable the test
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  1860. # [18:39] <edmorley> dougt: ok, thank you :-)
  1861. # [18:40] <dougt> no, thank you for staring and backing out.
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  1867. # [18:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7653a9cc00ae - Doug Turner - Bug 788122 - Device storage. Add an 'apps' storage type. r=sicking
  1868. # [18:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7c8b9e22567e - Doug Turner - Bug 788612 - Move bundle handing into nsDOMDeviceStorage to avoid calls to the nsIStringBundleService. r=bent
  1869. # [18:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/089c534af34e - Doug Turner - Bug 787299 - Device Storage - Filter out mimetypes during calculation of disk usages. r=bent
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  1872. # [18:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/35807584afe4 - Doug Turner - No Bug. Whitespace cleanup. r=me
  1873. # [18:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6eec6da1392c - Doug Turner - Bug 791287 - Device Storage - stat() doesn't always reflect disk usage immediately. r=dougt
  1874. # [18:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5dd0d8da452e - Doug Turner - Bug 791084 - Device storage - Seperate permissions based on storage type. r=bent
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  1876. # [18:46] <bhearsum> jimm-lunch: everything i said in that bug is still valid
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  1878. # [18:48] <dougt> ah shit.
  1879. # [18:48] <dougt> ignore this mess.
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  1883. # [18:50] <dougt> 7653a9cc00ae shouldn't have been pushed.
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  1886. # [18:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2a64ad9f584e - Doug Turner - Backing out 7653a9cc00ae. Shouldn't have been checked in. r=me
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  1901. # [19:00] <stephend> joe: dolske: filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791290 -- thanks for your help
  1902. # [19:00] <stephend> (huge canvas bug)
  1903. # [19:00] <joe> stephend: yw
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  1911. # [19:03] <vlad> hmm. my mozilla-build-Latest doesn't seem to like vs2012
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  1915. # [19:03] <vlad> it finds Visual C++ 11 directory, and Windows SDK version: 8
  1916. # [19:03] <vlad> and then it tells me that VC++ 2010 wasn't found
  1917. # [19:03] <vlad> oh
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  1920. # [19:04] <vlad> nevermind, derp
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  1953. # [19:22] <jaws> what's the recommended way to reset a branch to only have m-c changesets?
  1954. # [19:22] <jaws> i want to reset the UX branch
  1955. # [19:22] <bhearsum> define "reset"
  1956. # [19:23] <jaws> um, it could have many interprestations
  1957. # [19:23] <jaws> i'm not too concerned with history
  1958. # [19:23] <bhearsum> you want the current tip of the default branch of UX to match the current tip of the default branch of m-c?
  1959. # [19:23] <bhearsum> ah
  1960. # [19:23] <jaws> yes
  1961. # [19:23] <jaws> previous history on the branch isn't meaningful
  1962. # [19:23] <bhearsum> well, if you don't care about history (and you're sure nobody else does), you could ask IT to reclone it
  1963. # [19:23] <jaws> bhearsum: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790189
  1964. # [19:24] <bhearsum> yup, that should do it
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  1966. # [19:24] <jaws> history can stay though, i wanted to get this done today and have been waiting though
  1967. # [19:24] <bhearsum> ah
  1968. # [19:24] <jaws> so if there is a way that i can do it, that would be great :)
  1969. # [19:24] <bhearsum> i'll ping someone
  1970. # [19:24] <jaws> k thanks
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  1972. # [19:24] <jaws> bhearsum: will that break anybody who has a local clone?
  1973. # [19:25] <bhearsum> jaws: yes
  1974. # [19:25] <bhearsum> but you said you don't care about history =)
  1975. # [19:25] <jaws> hehe this is true
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  1977. # [19:25] <jaws> i don't think there is anyone developing *for* ux, maybe bwinton
  1978. # [19:25] <jaws> but i think that's it
  1979. # [19:26] <bhearsum> well, i don't like bwinton so it doesn't matter if he is inconveninced ;)
  1980. # [19:26] * bhearsum ducks
  1981. # [19:26] <bwinton> The consensus among the people I asked at MozCamp was "blow it away, and we'll land whatever stuff we want later".
  1982. # [19:26] <jaws> ok cool, let's do it then :)
  1983. # [19:26] <bwinton> Also, I do all my prototypes in HTML, cause XUL is for suckers. ;)
  1984. # [19:26] <bhearsum> i pinged bkero, i'll let you know when i hear back
  1985. # [19:26] <jaws> :)
  1986. # [19:26] <jaws> bhearsum++
  1987. # [19:27] <bhearsum> thanks :)
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  1990. # [19:28] <glandium> jaws: hg pull -u ; hg strip -r 'outgoing()'
  1991. # [19:29] <jaws> glandium: there are patches already on the remote branch
  1992. # [19:29] <bhearsum> it sounds like they really want a clean slate
  1993. # [19:29] <jaws> i don't think that would remove them
  1994. # [19:29] <glandium> ah, on a remote repo
  1995. # [19:29] * joey is now known as IRCMonkey34466
  1996. # [19:29] <jaws> yep :)
  1997. # [19:29] <glandium> yeah, IT needs to be involved
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  1999. # [19:30] <jaws> strip all the things!
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  2003. # [19:31] <sfink> retrain everyone using it to add |-r .| when they push, and don't worry about what random crap it has
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  2005. # [19:32] <bhearsum> jaws: twss
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  2007. # [19:32] <bhearsum> jaws: if nothing happens in the next hour or so, i suggest raising the severity to critical or blocker - it may get you more attention
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  2036. # [19:49] <joe> philor: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6559 makes me laugh and laugh
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  2039. # [19:51] <bhearsum> hahahha
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  2041. # [19:51] <bhearsum> it's a social commit hook
  2042. # [19:51] <bhearsum> so strongly grained in the culture
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  2045. # [19:51] <@ehsan> joe: jrmuizel: ./browser/config/tooltool-manifests/macosx64/clang.manifest
  2046. # [19:51] <mwu> I've used it since the cvs days
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  2049. # [19:53] * WG9s has used it since walgreens
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  2054. # [19:55] <joe> WG9s: fwiw that is a *very* american joke
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  2056. # [19:56] <WG9s> yes it was i gues
  2057. # [19:56] <WG9s> guess
  2058. # [19:56] <jhammel> you won't like my joke about how vim is so corporate it has to sell jeans then ;)
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  2060. # [19:56] <joe> i have no idea what that means
  2061. # [19:56] <jhammel> http://www.vimsneakers.com/
  2062. # [19:57] <joe> vim = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28cleaning_product%29 to me (other than the editor)
  2063. # [19:57] <jhammel> unless that was a clever stab at the editor
  2064. # [19:57] <joe> oh my goodness marquee
  2065. # [19:57] <jhammel> wow, doesn't that website bring back the 90s :0
  2066. # [19:57] <WG9s> perhaps i would if i understood it since i actulaly had to buy a new pair of jeans today beause of odd issues.
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  2068. # [19:58] <WG9s> is this like Dennis Miller? do we need a #arcane channel?
  2069. # [19:58] <WG9s> for arcane refences?
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  2077. # [20:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e5f591a4b733 - Wes Johnston - Bug 790164 - Keep contentPresShell alive while sending touch events. r=smaug a=akeybl
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  2128. # [20:24] <gps> ehsan: who besides you cares about hg-git perf?
  2129. # [20:24] <bhearsum> hwine
  2130. # [20:24] <gps> the source code is layer upon layer of clownshoes
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  2133. # [20:24] * bsmedberg__ imagines not many people
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  2135. # [20:24] <gps> I suspect I can make hg -> git conversion about a magnitude faster
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  2137. # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: eventually everyone who uses git at mozilla will :)
  2138. # [20:25] * mcote|lunch is now known as mcote
  2139. # [20:25] <@ehsan> since we're rolling out direct pushes from git shortly
  2140. # [20:25] <gps> what does that mean?
  2141. # [20:26] <Gijs> dolske: ping? :-)
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  2145. # [20:30] <bhearsum> jaws: you should be set now
  2146. # [20:30] <@dolske> Gijs: pong!
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  2175. # [20:45] <biesi> so... what's gyp?
  2176. # [20:45] <@khuey> a thing
  2177. # [20:45] <biesi> oh I see\
  2178. # [20:45] <biesi> chromium build system
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  2180. # [20:45] <jaws> bhearsum: how can i check that it was done?
  2181. # [20:46] <jaws> when i look at the hg/projects/ux/pushloghtml it shows the old history
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  2184. # [20:46] <jesup> ted's converting our build system all to gyp and ninja; he'll be done next week. ;-)
  2185. # [20:46] <jesup> biesi: ^
  2186. # [20:46] <biesi> heh
  2187. # [20:46] <gps> haha
  2188. # [20:46] <biesi> glwt
  2189. # [20:46] <biesi> (ninja?)
  2190. # [20:46] <bhearsum> jaws: huh
  2191. # [20:46] <gps> ninja is modern make
  2192. # [20:46] <bhearsum> that's weird
  2193. # [20:46] <bhearsum> throw that into the bug
  2194. # [20:47] <gps> we decided not to use gyp because we don't like the syntax
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  2196. # [20:47] <gps> but, we may utilize the GYP generators to create ninja files, etc
  2197. # [20:47] <biesi> I hope you're joking
  2198. # [20:47] <gps> biesi: no, I'm not joking. .gyp files suck
  2199. # [20:48] <biesi> ok
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  2202. # [20:48] <gps> basically, we like everything about gyp except the frontend
  2203. # [20:48] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  2204. # [20:48] <gps> so, we're inventing a new frontend format. we may still use GYP's backend
  2205. # [20:48] <gps> time will tell
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  2207. # [20:49] <jaws> does the format suck enough that we need to roll our own?
  2208. # [20:50] <jaws> seems like a big timesink so it really should be worth it
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  2210. # [20:50] <gps> jaws: I've already implemented the new frontend. the time sink is rewriting Makefile.in's, which we need to do regardless
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  2215. # [20:51] <jaws> well it also means maintaining a separate frontend instead of sharing bugfixes
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  2219. # [20:53] <bhearsum> catlee: i think you're right about pasting talking to firefox
  2220. # [20:53] <bhearsum> i just had a 5 second delay while my firefox was hung
  2221. # [20:53] <biesi> I basically agree with jaws but I don't know enough about gyp to really have an opinion
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  2225. # [20:54] <gps> biesi, jaws: all the build peers talked about this and we concluded that using our own frontend files was the best course
  2226. # [20:54] <@khuey> well
  2227. # [20:54] <@khuey> I didn't talk about it
  2228. # [20:55] <@khuey> but that's because I was too lazy to care
  2229. # [20:55] <gps> it's possible we may contribute what we produce to GYP as an *alternative* to .gyp files
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  2231. # [20:55] <johns> ehsan: ping
  2232. # [20:55] <gps> and I guess there are 2 other build module peers I have never heard from too. meh
  2233. # [20:55] <@khuey> heh
  2234. # [20:55] <@khuey> wtc probably shouldn't be a peer anymore
  2235. # [20:56] * bsmedberg__ should bow out of this
  2236. # [20:57] * bwinton nominates khuey to do the conversion of all the files as penance for not talking about it. ;)
  2237. # [20:57] <mbrubeck> This is like the opposite of "you touch it, you own it"?
  2238. # [20:58] <bwinton> mbrubeck: Yep. There's a fine line between saying nothing and saying too much…
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  2241. # [20:58] * @khuey may just decide to stay in stockholm and not come back
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  2243. # [20:58] <@khuey> I wonder if Opera has an office here
  2244. # [20:58] <jhammel|lunch> khuey: you have (wait for it) stockholm syndrome?
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  2250. # [20:59] <gps> ehsan: why does the mozilla-central in git have 7 root commits? http://gps.pastebin.mozilla.org/1822301
  2251. # [21:00] <@khuey> jhammel|lunch: har har har
  2252. # [21:00] <@ehsan> johns: hey'
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  2254. # [21:01] <@ehsan> gps: not sure!
  2255. # [21:01] * zzzzz thinks mozilla should create an html5 game: Where in the World is Kyle'
  2256. # [21:01] <johns> ehsan: In your blog post you mentioned turning off auto-gc, but that might end up going poorly -- hg-git exports all things to git as loose objects, so without an occasional GC to repack them your repo is going to grind to a halt at some point
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  2259. # [21:01] <@khuey> zzzzz: guess San Francisco and you're usually correct
  2260. # [21:02] <johns> ehsan: You can do something like |git config gc.pruneexpire "3000 years"| to just disable commit pruning while still allowing gc
  2261. # [21:02] <@khuey> zzzzz: I'm not fantasai after all!
  2262. # [21:02] <zzzzz> heh
  2263. # [21:02] <zzzzz> lol
  2264. # [21:02] <@ehsan> johns: yeah, I'll do regular repacks myself...
  2265. # [21:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4ce18b32241 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 785171 - Support OOM adjustment via /proc/<pid>/oom_score_adj. r=dhylands
  2266. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54f940cf6d65 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 785171 - Clamp OOM adjustment settings to valid range. r=dhylands
  2267. # [21:02] <@ehsan> johns: I don't know what the exact values of prineexpire are
  2268. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e5fe9ad7950 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 785171 - Return success from WriteToFile. r=dhylands
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  2270. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4de50fce24ea - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 785171 - Whitespace cleanups. r=dhylands
  2271. # [21:02] <@ehsan> johns: what I really want is "never"
  2272. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f746375dc95c - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 785171 - Adopt semantics of /proc/<pid>/oom_score_adjust in preferences. r=dhylands
  2273. # [21:02] <biesi> ehsan, what's wrong with autogc?
  2274. # [21:03] <NeilAway> janv: when did we lose dom-storage-warn-quota-exceeded?
  2275. # [21:03] <@ehsan> biesi: see my blog post -- it gets rid of commits which hg-git thinks are around
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  2277. # [21:03] <johns> ehsan: Yeah it doesn't seem like it has a never :( but pushing it back to year 5012 at least makes it an issue for our descendants
  2278. # [21:03] <@ehsan> hehe
  2279. # [21:04] <@khuey> I don't know about you, but I plan to be around in the year 5012
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  2281. # [21:04] <jhammel|lunch> ah, the ole Y5012 problem
  2282. # [21:04] <@ehsan> johns: fwiw I do occasional repacks of the mozilla-history-tools which was at one point ~79GB in size as well
  2283. # [21:04] <@khuey> to (loosely) quote Woody Allen, I plan to live forever, and so far, so good
  2284. # [21:04] <johns> khuey: You might want to take notes on this bug then, you can be a hero when it recurs
  2285. # [21:04] <@ehsan> johns: this machine has all of the disk space or processing power that we need :)
  2286. # [21:04] <@khuey> I might be working for Opera by then :-P
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  2288. # [21:05] <johns> ehsan: Yeah I had a similar issue with my git branch, a repack happily ate up like 24GiB of memory too
  2289. # [21:05] <@ehsan> yep
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  2291. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b3f5ceb618a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 579517 follow-up: Remove NSPR types that crept in
  2292. # [21:05] <@ehsan> although in practice I noticed no perf problems with the 79GB repo either
  2293. # [21:05] * @ehsan wished he could say the same about hg ;)
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  2301. # [21:07] <gps> hg-git clownshoes: https://github.com/schacon/hg-git/blob/master/hggit/git_handler.py#L371
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  2303. # [21:08] <Callek> vlad, blassey jprmc dvander jst: ping [about no-ion + b2g + armv6]
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  2314. # [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a64d6b2f110 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 791091 - Fix build warnings in XPConnect. r=jorendorff
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  2322. # [21:17] <joe> did hg.mozilla.org chnge certificates or something?
  2323. # [21:17] <joe> warning: hg.mozilla.org certificate with fingerprint 10:78:e8:57:2d:95:de:7c:de:90:bd:22:e1:38:17:67:c5:a7:9c:14 not verified (check hostfingerprints or web.cacerts config setting)
  2324. # [21:17] <janv> NeilAway: looking
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  2326. # [21:18] <janv> NeilAway: bug 776416
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  2342. # [21:26] <philor> jlebar: sorry, I don't have any idea about your esr10 crash
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  2347. # [21:28] <jlebar> o.O
  2348. # [21:29] <jlebar> philor, The Windows debug m5 crash?
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  2350. # [21:31] <jrmuizel> khuey: ping
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  2352. # [21:31] <@khuey> jrmuizel: pong
  2353. # [21:31] <jrmuizel> khuey: can I get a quick review on bug 791305
  2354. # [21:31] <jrmuizel> ?
  2355. # [21:32] <@khuey> well, I am technically on vacation
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  2359. # [21:34] <sawrubh> khuey: so are you shielded from "code" for these days ;)
  2360. # [21:34] <jrmuizel> khuey: thanks :)
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  2367. # [21:39] <Ameya> what are thread IOs? Why are they bad..?
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  2374. # [21:43] <dhylands> Ameya: Doing IO on the main thread is bad, because it blocks the main thread from running while waiting for the IO to complete
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  2380. # [21:45] <Ameya> Ok.. So do extensions call perform thread IOs?
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  2382. # [21:45] <Ameya> dhylands ?
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  2384. # [21:45] <NeilAway> janv: ta
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  2386. # [21:47] <Ameya> are addons allowed to do so ....? are they suppose to do thread IO?
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  2390. # [21:50] <NeilAway> janv: ok, so how do we clear local storage these days?
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  2395. # [21:50] <janv> NeilAway: clear cookies
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  2399. # [21:52] <Ameya> dhylands
  2400. # [21:52] <Ameya> you there?
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  2402. # [21:53] <NeilAway> janv: hmm, how does that work?
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  2405. # [21:54] <janv> NeilAway: what do you mean ?
  2406. # [21:54] <NeilAway> janv: I don't see where clearing cookes affects local storage
  2407. # [21:54] <janv> let me check
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  2422. # [22:01] <jlebar> philor, It went green on a second run. :)
  2423. # [22:01] <jlebar> philor, What do you think?
  2424. # [22:02] <philor> jlebar: I think I like blaming Mr. Holley for things, so I retriggered a few on him :)
  2425. # [22:03] <jlebar> philor, fwiw, this patch is already on all our other dev branches.
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  2427. # [22:03] <philor> jlebar: you mean "all the ones that are new enough that we can vaguely remember them, unlike 10 which is so old we can't remember where we buried the bodies"
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  2429. # [22:04] <jlebar> philor, Yes, except it's a docshell patch, which means the code is so old it really /deserves/ to be buried...
  2430. # [22:04] <philor> but, the line right before the crash? "WARNING: Moving XPConnect..."? and who do we blame for XPConnect problems? :)
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  2436. # [22:05] <bhearsum> jaws: things still look good with UX?
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  2438. # [22:06] <dhylands> Ameya: yep
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  2449. # [22:14] <janv> NeilAway: I found it
  2450. # [22:15] <janv> NeilAway: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/src/storage/nsDOMStorage.cpp#252
  2451. # [22:15] <@smaug> bhearsum: I would assume jaws is on the flight back to US
  2452. # [22:15] <bhearsum> ah
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  2454. # [22:17] <@smaug> bhearsum: er, wait, he is leaving Sep 15 6:55am
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  2469. # [22:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dd4d761d670d - Girish Sharma - Bug 790294 - GCLI screenshot command should show preview., r=jwalker
  2470. # [22:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c7b6aa285dd4 - Tim Taubert - Bug 790911 - part 2 - use the newly introduced DONT_REPORT_ERRORS flag in NewTabUtils.jsm; r=jaws
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  2472. # [22:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/516c72f9ac25 - Victor Porof - Bug 790891 - Search operators are hardcoded in debugger.xul, r=past
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  2474. # [22:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c66a8c55e6dd - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
  2475. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/69848e5d3672 - Victor Porof - Bug 787181 - DebuggerController._isChromeDebugger is broken, r=past
  2476. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f736813af10c - Girish Sharma - Bug 790026 - [gcli] screenshot command could use a 'chrome' option, r=jwalker
  2477. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3f7d16ee5712 - Victor Porof - Bug 787181 - DebuggerController._isChromeDebugger is broken, fix remote-enabled pref typo
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  2516. # [22:50] <RyanVM> Callek: can you take a look at tegra-140?
  2517. # [22:51] * Callek tries to find a picture of it, and wonders what is needed to be known
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  2519. # [22:52] <Callek> RyanVM: "only" 2 reds, https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-140, anything specific you see that is odd, or just a generic, "it burned two jobs"
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  2525. # [22:53] <RyanVM> burned two in short succession
  2526. # [22:53] <RyanVM> just caught my eye
  2527. # [22:54] <qheaden> How do you guys view for loops that increment more than 1 variable? Are they allowed in the code?
  2528. # [22:54] <Callek> qheaden: depends on the module/code area
  2529. # [22:54] <qheaden> For example, is it okay to use for(blahblah; blahblah; variable1++, variable2++)?
  2530. # [22:54] <qheaden> Okay.
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  2532. # [22:55] <qheaden> Maybe it will be safer to just write a while loop and perform my own incrementation.
  2533. # [22:55] <capella> ive seen code like that - havent written any
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  2539. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ece7fb2526fb - Tim Taubert - Bug 589445 - Intermittent timeout or uncaught exception @nsIDOMLocation.hash in browser_463205.js followed by unexpected tab warnings; r=ehsan
  2540. # [22:59] <bholley> philor, jlebar: What oranges are you talking about?
  2541. # [22:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d71ff5b4b36 - Patrick McManus - bug 347307 - make pac myIPAddress() more accurate r=biesi
  2542. # [22:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/828f91de7143 - Patrick McManus - bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api r=biesi sr=josh
  2543. # [23:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75a3c47a3fe7 - Patrick McManus - bug 507578 - disable dns prefetch in presence of active proxy r=jduell
  2544. # [23:00] <jlebar> bholley, I had a randomorange on my push to esr10.
  2545. # [23:00] <jlebar> bholley, It appears to be an unknown crash.
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  2551. # [23:02] <bholley> jlebar: the m-3 or the m-5?
  2552. # [23:03] <jlebar> bholley, tbpl is blank for me, but I had been looking at the m-5. Dunno about the m-3, since I can't pull it up.
  2553. # [23:03] <jlebar> Oh, here we go.
  2554. # [23:03] <bholley> jlebar: shift-reload
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  2557. # [23:03] <jlebar> bholley, I think that m-3 is new, so we'd been talking about the m-5.
  2558. # [23:04] <jlebar> Dunno about the m3
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  2563. # [23:05] <bholley> jlebar: well, my patch only affects plugins
  2564. # [23:05] <bholley> so..
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  2568. # [23:06] <jlebar> bholley, Well, my patch only affects a case we don't encounter in the test suite (I think!).
  2569. # [23:06] <jlebar> bholley, So let's just assume it's neither of our problems. :)
  2570. # [23:06] <bholley> jlebar: SGTM
  2571. # [23:06] <bholley> jlebar: looks like the 6 retriggered M-5 runs went green
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  2586. # [23:12] <KWierso|Home> is anyone else seeing weird effects when hovering over the buttons on the find bar with today's nightly?
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  2589. # [23:13] <KWierso|Home> hrm, over all buttons anywhere...
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  2592. # [23:13] <jhammel> nein :/
  2593. # [23:14] <RyanVM> haven't seen that, but I have been seeing missing text next to the images of posted links on my facebook feed
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  2595. # [23:14] <RyanVM> just an empty grey box to the right of the image
  2596. # [23:15] <KWierso|Home> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/KWierso/findbarhover.png
  2597. # [23:15] <KWierso|Home> maybe a win8 thing?
  2598. # [23:15] <KWierso|Home> it's happening in safe mode with hardware acceleration off
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  2610. # [23:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3470d77caa66 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 702832 - solidify strategy to sync mozbase packages to m-c;r=wlach DONTBUILD because NPOTB
  2611. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2172a4fab4c - L. David Baron - Add more profile labels for the separate parts of restyle processing. (Bug 790379) rs=cjones
  2612. # [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acb63df12b7a - L. David Baron - Make reftest harness print max difference and number of differing pixels on the TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL line so that it ends up in bugs. (Bug 789602) r=ted
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  2620. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in:
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  2622. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26ebe78032ac - Markus Stange - Bug 788189. Account for the context menu offset in the stored position of a context menu popup so that we don't end up in an infinite loop continually adding the context
  2623. # [23:28] <firebot> menu offset. r=enndeakin
  2624. # [23:28] <jhammel> comeon firebot, gimme what i want to see
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  2626. # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c04d97d0f74 - Jeff Hammel - bug 702832 follow up: add license header;r=wlach DONTBUILD because NPOTB
  2627. # [23:29] <jhammel> firebot: thanks
  2628. # [23:29] <firebot> np
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