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# Session Start: Mon Sep 24 00:00:00 2012
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# [00:04] <jaws> anyone know why the nightlies aren't available for today or yesterday?
# [00:04] <dew> updates have been turned off
# [00:05] <dew> I think they'll reactivate them tomorrow since the bug was resolved
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# [00:05] <@khuey> jaws: because l10n was totally busted
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# [00:09] <nthomas> I'm in the process of turning things back on, just need to make sure the latest nightly for each locale is after the fix, or prior to the bustage
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# [00:19] <tessarakt> Hi!
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# [00:31] <jaws> dew, khuey: thanks
# [00:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0ba97d9a1564 - Olli Pettay - Bug 793473, propagate mDontPrint to descendants, r=roc
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# [00:36] <tessarakt> baaah ...
# [00:37] <tessarakt> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide#Searching_strings_-_looking_for_substrings.2C_characters.2C_etc. mentions str.BeginReading(start);
# [00:37] <tessarakt> but for nsCString that is not working
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# [00:39] <tessarakt> start = str.BeginReading() _is_ working
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# [00:39] <tessarakt> difference between nsString and nsCString, or just plain wrong documentation?
# [00:39] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/nsMediaFragmentURIParser.cpp?mark=10-10,13-13#10
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# [00:40] <@smaug> ah, you want the one without param
# [00:41] <jcranmer> tessarakt: the = .BeginReading() is more correct for char *, but former is for slightly different things
# [00:41] <@smaug> tessarakt: You need nsACString, I think
# [00:42] <@smaug> hmm, I could be wrong
# [00:42] <tessarakt> :-o
# [00:43] <jcranmer> [we have an up-to-date string documentation?]
# [00:43] <tessarakt> apparently not ...
# [00:43] <@smaug> no, BeginReading() is there in nsTSubstring_CharT
# [00:44] <@smaug> tessarakt: could you pastebin the code which is not working?
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# [00:45] <tessarakt> I think I found the mistake :-/
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# [00:45] <tessarakt> wrong iterator type
# [00:45] <tessarakt> or rather, I used the ::const_iterator from the wrong class ...
# [00:45] <jcranmer> while on the topic of string classes
# [00:46] <jcranmer> is there any good reason why we haven't converted the classes from C-pseudo-templates to C++ real templates?
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# [00:48] <@smaug> jcranmer: what you mean with C-pseudo-templates?
# [00:49] <@smaug> string code is very much C++, just "tiny" bit old looking
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# [00:49] <jcranmer> we use macros for everything instead of actual templatizatoin
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# [00:52] <@smaug> you mean the stuff in string-template-def-char.h ?
# [00:53] <jcranmer> yeah
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# [00:55] <tessarakt> sorry for the stupid questions, this String API is just so unfamiliar ...
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# [01:01] <@smaug> tessarakt: yeah, string API should be easier to use
# [01:01] <@smaug> (Qt has great string API, although its string are reasonable heavy)
# [01:02] <tessarakt> they are implicitly shared :-)
# [01:02] <ttaubert> does anyone know why nightlies don't see any updates?
# [01:02] <Archae|real> ttaubert: deactivated
# [01:03] <nthomas> Nightly should be back on in an hour or so
# [01:03] <ttaubert> ah ok
# [01:03] <ttaubert> thx. was just wondering
# [01:04] <mounir> smaug: are you obsessed by Qt because of your Nokia past or your really like Qt? :)
# [01:04] <jcranmer> I've gotten to love some of the LLVM/Clang String API
# [01:04] <jcranmer> even if not their naming scheme
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# [01:06] <tessarakt> mounir: I just bought some Digia stocks, so I appreciate any such comments
# [01:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c671314ef408 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 789003 - ignoreAllUncaughtExceptions() in browser_586068-cascaded_restore.js, since we certainly do
# [01:06] <mounir> tessarakt: ?!
# [01:06] <tessarakt> any comments promoting Qt
# [01:06] <@smaug> mounir: Nokia had nothing to do with Qt when I was there
# [01:07] <@smaug> mounir: Qt is just very very easy to use API
# [01:07] <tessarakt> no way to buy Mozilla stocks, unfortunately
# [01:07] <mounir> smaug: actually, I've heard that from a lot of people but I never tried to use it
# [01:07] <mounir> tessarakt: there is no such thing as Mozilla stocks
# [01:08] <tessarakt> yes
# [01:08] <tessarakt> that's why it's not possible to buy them
# [01:08] <@smaug> Digia has Qt now, but not sure how well they are doing. Digia is about to lay off some employees
# [01:10] <@khuey> mounir: didn't you get last week's memo about the IPO?
# [01:10] <mounir> khuey: the one that last by "Mounir, you are fired."?
# [01:10] <@khuey> sure :-)
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# [01:13] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> anyone know where winxp has gone on try?
# [01:14] <@khuey> nowhere?
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# [01:14] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> khuey: it seems to have vanished between opettay's and bshouten's pushes.
# [01:15] <@khuey> no
# [01:15] <@khuey> nobody has had a successful windows build since smaug's last push
# [01:16] <@khuey> kentuckyfriedtakahe: we only do one windows build
# [01:16] <@khuey> kentuckyfriedtakahe: and then we run tests on both xp and windows 7
# [01:16] <@khuey> kentuckyfriedtakahe: so if the builds fail, windows xp won't show up at all
# [01:16] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> oh. so I'm just reading it wrong.
# [01:16] <@khuey> probably
# [01:17] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> try is idiosyncratic at times.
# [01:17] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> but I'm learning. thanks for your help.
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# [01:17] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: that's how it works on all trees
# [01:18] <RyanVM> winxp won't show until a windows build finishes
# [01:18] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> I hadn't noticed that before.
# [01:18] * NeilAway wonders why we haven't excised the code of string iterator types yet, given that these days all strings are flat
# [01:18] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> given that it's only on a Monday that it's sufficiently quiet that it's worth watching it progress.
# [01:18] <RyanVM> kentuckyfriedtakahe: you will now ;)
# [01:19] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> of course. usually I just set try running over night.
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# [01:27] <nthomas> Nightly updates are back on
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# [01:32] <nthomas> philor: do you watch Thunderbind-Trunk on tbpl ?
# [01:33] <Jesse> nthomas: \o/
# [01:33] <nthomas> oops
# [01:33] <philor> nthomas: nope
# [01:33] <nthomas> k. looks like they've got a build fail that shows up in clobber builds
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# [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b29d0e8668c3 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 793494 Allow non-libxul code to include nsIWidget.h again r=roc
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# [01:57] <RyanVM> nthomas: you talking about the osx red or something else?
# [01:57] <nthomas> mostly
# [01:57] <RyanVM> ok, that's filed
# [01:57] <nthomas> got the bug # handy ?
# [01:57] <RyanVM> it's fallout from the nsresult enum change
# [01:57] <RyanVM> hang on a sec
# [01:58] <RyanVM> bug 793394
# [01:58] <nthomas> thanks
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# [02:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/503de52e9c72 - Mark Hammond - Bug 793036 - Close all service windows on logout. r=jaws
# [02:03] <gkw> RyanVM: do you know who's the sheriff today?
# [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/83d1c07921bf - Justin Lebar - Bug 791011 - When doing a hash navigation, cancel any outstanding document loads, but don't cancel other network activity. r=bz a=akeybl
# [02:07] <@khuey> ha
# [02:07] <@khuey> sheriff
# [02:07] <@khuey> that's cute
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# [02:11] <gkw> khuey: isn't it Sheriff ?
# [02:11] <gkw> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules/Inbound#Meet_the_Sheriffs
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# [02:14] <@khuey> gkw: the part that's cute is the idea that we have one
# [02:14] <gkw> haha ok :)
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# [02:22] <njn> gkw: I see what you're doing :)
# [02:22] <gkw> njn: suppressions file they go!
# [02:22] <njn> gkw: :)
# [02:22] <gkw> njn: that log is just supreme madness
# [02:22] <njn> yeah
# [02:23] <gkw> njn: should we look at "possibly lost"?
# [02:23] <gkw> i have a bug on file for that
# [02:23] <gkw> in my first round, i'm not considering "possibly lost" at all
# [02:24] <@khuey> you have a valgrind log?
# [02:24] * @khuey is interested
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# [02:24] <gkw> khuey: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&jobname=valgrind
# [02:24] <gkw> see the reds
# [02:25] <gkw> the results are now worth looking at because they've upgraded to Valgrind 3.8.1
# [02:25] <njn> gkw: I repliedin the bug, but yes -- ignore "possible leaks"
# [02:26] <gkw> njn: great, thanks!
# [02:28] * @khuey watches firefox hang loading the log
# [02:29] <@khuey> gkw: the one in JSObject::allocateSlowArrayElements is new
# [02:29] * @khuey has never seen that before
# [02:29] <gkw> khuey: woohoo!
# [02:30] <@khuey> it's kind of unclear to me how that function is supposed to work :-P
# [02:31] <@khuey> oh
# [02:31] <@khuey> this is the js engine not prefixing member variables
# [02:31] * @khuey hates that
# [02:31] * njn hates it too
# [02:32] <njn> khuey: in IonMonkey they've taken to appending '_'
# [02:32] <@khuey> anyways, worth investigating
# [02:32] <njn> which is better than nothing
# [02:32] <@khuey> njn: there's lots wrong with gecko, but the variable naming conventions are pretty good
# [02:32] <@khuey> aArgument
# [02:32] <@khuey> mMember
# [02:32] <@khuey> etc
# [02:32] <njn> khuey: it's still not really enough to turn on -Wshadow, unfortunately, because of clashes between parameter names and method names
# [02:32] <njn> yeah
# [02:32] <njn> I'm a reluctant convert
# [02:32] <njn> khuey: I literally tried -Wshadow again last Friday
# [02:33] <njn> in the hope that the '_' suffix might have helped, but the parameters are still too much of a problme
# [02:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/013a65100228 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 790938 - Add a test for SVG-in-OpenType glyphs in a mask. r=eflores
# [02:33] <@khuey> loss record 14,578 is one I've seen before but never managed to figure out
# [02:34] <gkw> khuey: bug?
# [02:34] <gkw> bug #, i mean
# [02:34] <@khuey> it's not filed, afaik
# [02:35] <gkw> khuey: the IPC one?
# [02:36] <gkw> message
# [02:36] <gkw> the one with message or something like that
# [02:36] <@khuey> yeah
# [02:36] <@khuey> that's the only one I see in here that's interesting
# [02:36] <@khuey> the others are leaking memory for things that require static data
# [02:36] <@khuey> PR_SetEnv, PR_SetCurrentThreadName
# [02:37] <@khuey> or they're third party (pango stuff)
# [02:37] <@khuey> and that js one
# [02:37] <@khuey> you should file that one too ;-)
# [02:37] <njn> khuey: which var is shadowed in the JS one?
# [02:37] <gkw> khuey: bug 793536
# [02:37] <gkw> khuey: are things that require static data false positives?
# [02:37] <@khuey> njn: elements, presumably http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/0ba97d9a1564/js/src/jsarray.cpp#l1230
# [02:38] <njn> khuey: I don't see the problem
# [02:38] <@khuey> gkw: well, they're not so much false positives as they are things we don't have a choice in because nspr is dumb
# [02:38] <gkw> ok :|
# [02:38] <@khuey> njn: well if you don't know that elements is a member variable it's not at all clear what that function is doing ;-)
# [02:38] <gkw> i guess they will go into the suppressions file until the day NSPR is replaced by something better
# [02:39] <njn> khuey: oh, sure, but there's not a bug due to shadowing
# [02:39] <@khuey> gkw: we're talking about a few hundred bytes per process, nothing very interesting
# [02:40] <gkw> khuey: sure
# [02:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f7bff5aa1ba - Gavin Sharp - Bug 772823: try to work around intermittent failure of this test on Linux by avoiding closing the window during onload
# [02:40] <gkw> khuey: this is just the first 50MB of the log btw :)
# [02:41] <@khuey> njn: I'm kinda confused why valgrind is reporting that stuff is definitely lost there though
# [02:41] <njn> khuey: sorry, which report?
# [02:41] <@khuey> gkw: yeah I noticed it was truncated
# [02:41] <njn> oh
# [02:41] <njn> let me look closely
# [02:41] <@khuey> njn: http://khuey.pastebin.mozilla.org/1838949
# [02:42] <RyanVM> gkw: I believe that the sheriff is #developers on off hours
# [02:42] <njn> gkw: why aren't we getting line numbers in the stack traces?
# [02:42] <philor> which are the off hours, 0 through 24?
# [02:42] <gkw> RyanVM: ok. i'm about to (soon) check in changes to Valgrind suppression files (valgrind builds are already ignored by tbpl), to m-c directly
# [02:43] <gkw> njn: no idea
# [02:43] <njn> gkw: are they debug builds?
# [02:43] <@khuey> no
# [02:43] <gkw> khuey: no
# [02:43] <RyanVM> gkw: there's technically no ban on checking in to m-c as long as you're watching your results until all tests are finished. We just recommend against it :)
# [02:43] <KWierso|Home> :| the inspector interface is stuck visible in today's Nightly for me
# [02:44] <gkw> RyanVM: yeah, i should be around for a few hours
# [02:44] <RyanVM> gkw: that said, I don't see a problem with it if it only affects valgrind anyway
# [02:44] <KWierso|Home> esc doesn't clear it, the 'X' button doesn't get rid of it
# [02:44] <KWierso|Home> it persists across page loads
# [02:44] <gkw> RyanVM: yep, only Valgrind
# [02:44] <njn> khuey: hmm, it does look like there would be an internal pointer, and so it would only be reported as possibly lost
# [02:44] <KWierso|Home> and across tabs
# [02:44] <RyanVM> gkw: btw, I'm running the patch you requested checkin on through Try
# [02:44] <gkw> RyanVM: thanks :)
# [02:44] <@khuey> njn: right, that's what I expected too
# [02:44] <RyanVM> gkw: I'll land it if it's green
# [02:44] <gkw> \o/
# [02:44] <gkw> njn: should Valgrind opt builds be compiled with... --enable-debug-symbols?
# [02:45] <@khuey> enable-debug-symbols is the default
# [02:45] <gkw> i see
# [02:45] <gkw> then i have no idea
# [02:45] <njn> gkw: I just have --enable-valgrind...
# [02:45] <njn> sewardj might know more
# [02:46] <njn> my Valgrind hacker status is very much "emeritus" these days
# [02:46] <gkw> i see
# [02:46] <philor> gkw: push them DONTBUILD - ideally, to inbound without worrying about whether they hit m-c before the next nightly, but you'll want them in the next nightly so you won't want that part
# [02:46] <njn> khuey: so the obvious hypothesis is that there's a genuine leak
# [02:46] <gkw> njn: i'll file a bug about the lack of line numbers
# [02:47] <gkw> philor: so i'll push it DONTBUILD to m-c ?
# [02:47] <gkw> + no bug as well
# [02:47] <@khuey> njn: right
# [02:47] <gkw> + r=me
# [02:47] <philor> there is no review hook, no point in lies about r=
# [02:48] <gkw> ok, i thought there was
# [02:48] <njn> khuey: it's on the Array class, so there's only one instance
# [02:48] <gkw> i'll remember it to m-c with DONTBUILD and "no bug" then
# [02:48] <philor> and yeah, the only people who get hurt by DONTBUILD on m-c are people merging it to their branch when the last thing they did was merge m-c, so they don't have a merge commit, and too bad for services-central
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# [02:54] <RyanVM> philor: gkw: i was going to merge inbound over tonight anyway
# [02:54] <RyanVM> i'll wait until after gkw pushes
# [02:55] <gkw> RyanVM: so i'll push to m-i? with DONTBUILD?
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# [02:55] <RyanVM> gkw: no, m-c
# [02:55] <gkw> RyanVM: ok
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# [02:55] <RyanVM> but that'll resolve the merging a DONTBUILD over to another branch issue philor warned about
# [02:56] <philor> yup, it's only a problem if, as is often the case, a DONTBUILD sits around on the tip of m-c for hours or days
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# [02:58] <gkw> i see
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# [03:05] <nthomas> gkw: is there something specific you'd like us to look at for bug 793551 ?
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# [03:05] <@bz> roc: we can talk here too, instead of communicating solely through bug comments. ;)
# [03:05] <@bz> roc: now that I'm not putting kids to bed
# [03:06] <gkw> nthomas: might be something for sewardj
# [03:06] <philor> testing: general
# [03:08] <gkw> moved
# [03:09] <nthomas> thx
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# [03:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/28b930feb615 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 790649. r=froydnj, a=akeybl
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# [03:23] <mjrosenb> Version
# [03:23] <mjrosenb>
# [03:23] <mjrosenb> 3.6.8
# [03:23] <mjrosenb> isn't upgrading old machines fun?
# [03:27] <njn> khuey: did you know that mfbt seems to be using SpiderMonkey style?
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# [03:28] <@khuey> njn: yes
# [03:28] <@khuey> njn: because Waldo wrote it
# [03:28] <@khuey> njn: and yes, I haz a sad
# [03:28] <njn> khuey: that's what I figured
# [03:29] <gkw> mjrosenb: what's I3.6.8?
# [03:29] <gkw> njn: quick eyeball please: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1838972
# [03:30] <gkw> RyanVM: my commit message will be: Update i686 and x86_64 Linux Valgrind suppression files, no bug. DONTBUILD
# [03:30] <mjrosenb> gkw: that is "Version 3.6.8", this is firefox on my desktop.
# [03:30] <RyanVM> I personally prefer the no bug in front
# [03:31] <gkw> RyanVM: ok
# [03:31] <njn> gkw: looks reasonable. If it works, I say go for it
# [03:31] <Jesse> njn: you don't like spidermonkey style?
# [03:31] <njn> Jesse: I prefer aParam and mField
# [03:32] <gkw> njn: thank you
# [03:32] <njn> Jesse: they're ugly but helpful in a big codebase
# [03:32] <njn> Jesse: and they allow -Wshadow
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# [03:32] <njn> Jesse: apart from that, the style doesn't worry me much
# [03:33] <gkw> RyanVM: ok, will be: No bug - Update i686 and x86_64 Linux Valgrind suppression files. DONTBUILD
# [03:33] <RyanVM> sounds good
# [03:33] <gkw> thanks, pushing now
# [03:34] <Jesse> gkw: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696305 ?
# [03:34] <Jesse> gkw: are those bugs hit by regression tests or by fuzzing?
# [03:34] <gkw> Jesse: oof, just pushed
# [03:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b2654d3d5c28 - Gary Kwong - No bug - Update i686 and x86_64 Linux Valgrind suppression files. DONTBUILD
# [03:35] <gkw> Jesse: tbpl Valgrind
# [03:35] <gkw> not fuzzing
# [03:35] <Jesse> gkw: excellent
# [03:35] <gkw> Jesse: also, files are in build/valgrind, not mozilla/build/valgrind, but i'll comment
# [03:36] <Jesse> i think when i said "mozilla/" i meant "mozilla-central or whatever"
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# [03:36] <gkw> oh ok
# [03:36] <Jesse> "as opposed to some other build repo"
# [03:36] <gkw> i was actually looking for a mozilla/ folder in the repo
# [03:37] <Jesse> do you think that's enough to get it green?
# [03:37] <nthomas> just let me know if you want another build valgrind forced
# [03:39] <gkw> Jesse: no
# [03:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97f93e053b4e - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 691580 - disable the bits of test_focus_contextmenu.xul that constantly fail on Windows
# [03:39] <gkw> Jesse: there might be more after the first 50MB (logs get truncated to that size on tbpl)
# [03:39] <@khuey> can we suppress all of the "possibly lost" ones for now?
# [03:40] <gkw> Jesse: it might not be green because of "possibly lost" errors which won't be fixed till bug 793509 gets fixed
# [03:40] <gkw> khuey: see bug 793509
# [03:40] <gkw> actually, we should ignore "possibly lost" errors, see njn's comment in that bug
# [03:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2654d3d5c28 - Gary Kwong - No bug - Update i686 and x86_64 Linux Valgrind suppression files. DONTBUILD
# [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db94c9693123 - Ralph Giles - Bug 793315 - Fix mozGetMetadata with single tag streams. r=cpearce
# [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70f1fdaaad12 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da60a3b8eeac - Ralph Giles - Bug 793315 - Test single tag metadata. r=cpearce
# [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2867d82dcad - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
# [03:41] <gkw> nthomas: we can get another Valgrind build from the nightly round that's happening in 9 hours' time?
# [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22bc2202fd8f - Bill McCloskey - Bug 788362 - 9,440 bytes in 107 blocks are definitely lost as detected by Valgrind with selectforgc. r=jcoppeard
# [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ba97d9a1564 - Olli Pettay - Bug 793473, propagate mDontPrint to descendants, r=roc
# [03:42] <nthomas> gkw: why does it need to be tied to a nightly ? seems to be doing a compile in the job
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# [03:42] <Jesse> gkw: i see, so we want to treat "possibly lost" more like "still reachable" (which we're ignoring)
# [03:43] <gkw> nthomas: i notice a Valgrind build every 24 hours at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&jobname=valgrind
# [03:43] <Jesse> nthomas: do you know where bug 793509 should be fixed?
# [03:43] <nthomas> Jesse: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/default/scripts/valgrind/valgrind.sh IIRC
# [03:43] <gkw> Jesse: did we settle on a 24 hour rotation in some bug?
# [03:43] <gkw> Jesse: yes, that sounds correct
# [03:43] <philor> RyanVM: I haven't used mcMerge since it started doing assignee, does it do it automatically for everything?
# [03:44] <gkw> (about possibly lost == still reachable)
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# [03:44] <RyanVM> philor: apparently so
# [03:44] <RyanVM> i don't see a way to tell it not to, either
# [03:45] <philor> good thing my style of disabling things without having any desire to take the bug is fairly uncommon
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# [03:46] <nthomas> gkw: it's just happens to the triggered on the same schedule as nightlies
# [03:47] <gkw> oh.
# [03:47] <nthomas> and the same revision by the looks
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# [03:48] <gkw> nthomas: we could change it to once every 12 hours, i guess. the slowest Valgrind jobs take 7-8 hours, the other 64-bit one takes 6-7 hours
# [03:48] <gkw> nthomas: shall i file a bug?
# [03:48] <nthomas> no, I don't think so. We can force builds to get this bootstrapped and 24 hours is fine otherwise
# [03:49] <gkw> nthomas: ok, sounds good. shall we do it after changing the valgrind parameters passed in?
# [03:49] <nthomas> sure
# [03:49] <nthomas> let me know when you're ready
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# [03:50] <gkw> Jesse / njn: should we at the same time switch from --smc-check=all to --smc-check=all-non-file ?
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# [03:57] <gkw> nthomas|away: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793509#c6
# [03:58] <gkw> patch is out. once that is done and landed, we can clobber Valgrind builds, I think
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# [04:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d33725cf167 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 782546 - make the todo_is() on linux32 a todo(false) since it's only consistent about being either true or false
# [04:06] <njn> gkw: all-non-file is a good iea
# [04:06] <njn> *idea
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# [04:12] <gkw> njn: great! I added that in for good measure :)
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# [04:31] <jcranmer> please explain to me how "the ability to completely get rid any styling done by ANY external sheet for a certain set of selected elements, without having to manipulate those external style sheets" is not "selectively ignoring stylesheets"
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# [04:32] <Jesse> "for a certain set of selected elements"
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# [04:32] <Jesse> never mind
# [04:33] <jcranmer> it's really galling to follow this thread
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# [05:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/724f2a728a6f - Matt Woodrow - Bug 792314 - Make nsDisplayTransform support untransformed frames. r=roc
# [05:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8e84de2291e - Matt Woodrow - Bug 792314 - Build full display lists for nsPageFrame. r=roc
# [05:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa9d4c87e6de - Matt Woodrow - Bug 788044 - Apply the ContainerState offset to ImageLayers. r=roc
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# [05:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/461384440ce3 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 793086 (part 2) - Remove jsproto.tbl. r=jwalden.
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# [05:39] <jesup> khuey: ping
# [05:40] <philor> mmm, nice, we didn't just break win64 Moth, we annihilated it
# [05:41] <philor> where by "we" I seem to mean "hi, bbondy!"
# [05:42] <@khuey> jesup: pong
# [05:43] <jesup> khuey: I should have a solid patch for the VC8/VC9 issue on bug 792393, and I'd like to get a quick review so I can unbreak people. Basically, I'm going to upstream a patch that lets me #define a stdint.h-equivalent and set it to mozilla/StandardInteger.h. Bypasses all the shananigans.
# [05:44] <jesup> I'm running a try and will check on VC9 & VC9x64
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# [05:45] * philor wonders if there's any other way
# [05:45] <@khuey> fair point
# [05:45] <jesup> You wouldn't be the 1000th one I'd guess ;-)
# [05:46] <philor> gasp, and nsresult-enum broke winEmbed!
# [05:47] <philor> or, gasp, winEmbed still exists!
# [05:47] <philor> or maybe, gasp, we're building xulrunner with VC9!
# [05:48] <@khuey> we're still building xulrunner?
# [05:49] <@dolske> what... is winEmbed.
# [05:49] <@dolske> ?
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# [05:50] <philor> we are indeed still building it, tier 2 nightlies
# [05:50] <philor> which, horrifyingly, become tier 1 at release time, because it's a release deliverable
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# [05:51] <@dolske> this is the embedding test thing? or (hopefully) something else?
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# [05:52] <philor> yeah, "embedding/tests/winEmbed/winEmbed.cpp(238) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'uint32_t' to 'nsresult'"
# [05:52] <philor> the test thing
# [05:53] <@dolske> D:
# [05:53] <smontagu> there's a comment in nsIFrame.h:
# [05:53] <smontagu> * Note: moving or sizing the frame does not affect the view's size or
# [05:53] <smontagu> * position.
# [05:53] <philor> &noignore=1 is pretty horrifying on m-c, no wonder I usually only look on other trees
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# [05:54] <smontagu> does this mean that neither moving nor sizine affects neither of the view's size nor its position (which seems to be what it says)
# [05:54] <smontagu> or that moving the frame doesn't affect the view's size, and sizing the frame doesn't affect the view's position (which seems more reasonable)
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# [05:55] <@khuey> sounds like a question for roc
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# [05:56] <@roc> we should just delete that comment :-)
# [05:56] <@dolske> philor: where does that failure show up (with noignore)? I'd expect a red Windows "B", but I don't see any.
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# [05:56] <@roc> smontagu: what it means is that view geometry is stored independently so if you need to update view geometry, which is possible for most kinds of position changes but not size changes, you need to do that separately
# [05:57] <philor> dolske: nightlies, one green down-arrow to get to the rev that did them, and they are an "Xr"
# [05:57] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&rev=9d285bedbc1f if you want to go straight to the bucket o' fail
# [05:57] <@dolske> ah, then I won't worry about what count_and_reboot.py is.
# [05:57] <smontagu> roc: OK
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# [05:58] <philor> count_and_reboot.py is a sign that cloning build tools failed from a permission denied error while removing tools/
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# [05:59] <@dolske> well, at least our valgrind builds are still... oh
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# [05:59] <smontagu> when is the upper left not the upper left
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# [06:09] <jesup> njn: that's why I use qrename and qdelete... harder for fingers to autocomplete to the wrong one ;-)
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# [06:14] <gkw> nthomas: ping
# [06:14] <nthomas> pong
# [06:15] <gkw> nthomas: are you landing bug 793509?
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# [06:15] <nthomas> can do, but tools isn't bad to clone
# [06:16] <gkw> nthomas: ok, i can land
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# [06:19] <gkw> nthomas: i pushed, but hgweb shows: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/annotate/77fe45302ac7/scripts/valgrind/valgrind.sh
# [06:19] <gkw> "An error occurred while processing your request
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# [06:20] <nthomas> wfm
# [06:20] <KWierso|Home> link works here, too, for what it's worth
# [06:21] <gkw> oh. turns out i had to do a force-reload instead
# [06:21] <gkw> nthomas: anyway, anything else on my end?
# [06:22] <nthomas> nope, I'll trigger some builds
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# [06:24] <gkw> nthomas: fantastic. thanks!
# [06:24] <nthomas> scheduled on rev b2867d82dcad (m-c tip)
# [06:25] <gkw> nthomas: there will also be a nightly run as well, for 3am PDT?
# [06:25] <nthomas> yup
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# [06:26] <gkw> sounds good
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# [06:28] <jesup> If anyone out there has a working VC9x64 setup, I could use verification that the patch in Bug 793393 fixes builds in VC9 64-bit. (I've tried VC9 32-bit, and am running a try build for VC10/VC10x64 and others for safety). Thanks!
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# [06:31] <Callek> jesup: depending on risk and importance of the test, I *can* install VC9x64 on my w7 machine, but I never built that way in the past, and don't even have VC9 installed
# [06:31] <Callek> jesup: let me know you find it necessary
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# [06:38] <jesup> Callek: that's ok; I'd rather find someone with it installed already
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# [06:39] <Callek> jesup: sounds good -- just figured I'd give the offer ;-)
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# [07:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c2e9acb91a3 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 766112 - enable logging for events/test_docload.xul
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# [07:34] <markh> jesup: I just got a successful m-c build on vs9-x64 *without* that patch - is there some special configure option I should set?
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# [07:41] <jesup> markh: no. m-c is broken right now on VC9x32; it may not be broken on vc9x64 (the detail of what it's doing does depend on x64); but I need to verify if the patch breaks vc9x64 since this definitely changes how ints are defined. Thanks!
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# [07:41] <markh> ok - I'll apply and rebuild!
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# [07:42] <jesup> markh: about to crash (1:30am here); please comment in the bug if I'm not around (actually comment anyways)
# [07:42] <markh> ok
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# [07:51] <markh> wfm!
# [07:51] <jesup> great, thanks
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# [07:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/718d68677a18 - Randell Jesup - Bug 793393: Fix VC8/9 builds: fix HAVE_64BIT_OS test, modify libsrtp to force StandardInteger.h r=khuey
# [07:56] <jesup> markh: thanks, was literally about to reach for the monitor power button :-)
# [07:56] <jesup> nite!
# [07:56] <markh> cheers!
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# [08:00] <glandium> http://www.mnot.net/blog/2012/09/24/caching_POST haha
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# [08:08] <Havvy> glandium++
# [08:08] <Havvy> That was a very informative link.
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# [08:59] <glazou> bonjour
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# [09:12] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
# [09:12] <ttaubert> Yoric: sup? :)
# [09:12] <Yoric> Hi, how are you?
# [09:12] <ttaubert> tired :) how are you?
# [09:12] <Yoric> Same :)
# [09:13] <Yoric> It has been a long night.
# [09:13] <Yoric> Tell me, what is the current status of asynchronous session storage?
# [09:13] <Yoric> I want to testdrive OS.File myself, and this is definitely a good candidate.
# [09:14] <Yoric> (although it will probably require me to improve encoding support in OS.File)
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# [09:26] <ttaubert> Yoric: well... I think we *could* read the session file async with a little more work
# [09:26] <ttaubert> Yoric: writing is async as of now
# [09:26] <ttaubert> collecting the data is the problem
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# [10:00] <sewardj> gkw: still around?
# [10:00] <gkw> sewardj: yes
# [10:00] <sewardj> gkw: maybe there is no line number info on the relevant libxul.so. Can you get hold of it?
# [10:00] <gkw> sewardj: no, unfortunately I know zilch about that area
# [10:01] <gkw> sewardj: maybe leave a comment and let other devs, e.g. Ted chime in?
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# [10:03] <sewardj> gkw: what I meant is, can you get hold of the file itself?
# [10:04] <gkw> no idea. it's on tbpl. i haven't heard of anyone having access to those files. Perhaps releng folks could do it for us?
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# [10:05] <Yoric> ttaubert: Well, I could start with putting the write off-main-thread.
# [10:05] <sewardj> gkw: ok, i'll comment in the bug
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# [10:05] <gkw> sounds good
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# [10:17] <ttaubert> Yoric: yes, that would be good start. second thing is doing the read OMT on startup.
# [10:17] <ttaubert> Yoric: all the other stuff isn't really IO-bound, it's mostly querying internal APIs
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# [10:22] <baku> sicking, ping
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# [10:22] <sicking> baku!
# [10:22] <baku> hi Jonas!
# [10:22] <sicking> How's it going?
# [10:23] <baku> I'm fine... monday morning :) breakfast... what about you?
# [10:23] <sicking> i'm just about to head to sleep :)
# [10:23] <sicking> which is always exciting :)
# [10:23] <baku> hehe
# [10:23] <baku> do you have 1 more minute?
# [10:24] <baku> if not... don't worry.
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# [10:28] <glandium> sewardj: i think the question is essentially, on what is valgrind being run. if it's run on the final stripped binaries, then it's not surprising that line info is not there
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# [10:29] <glandium> sewardj: actually, i think it's being run on the normal test suites, so this means it uses the final stripped binaries, unless we force not to strip, which is probably what is missing
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# [10:30] <sicking> baku: sure thing
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# [10:31] <baku> sicking, great. it's about throw/do-not-throw the exception for amInstalled.
# [10:31] <sicking> baku: yup
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# [10:31] <baku> I don't get when you think this exception would be used.
# [10:31] <baku> I see 3 scenarios:
# [10:31] <baku> 1. the callee is not an app
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# [10:32] <baku> 2. the callee is an app but the origin doesn't match with that manifest URL
# [10:32] <baku> 3. the calee is an app but the origin and the manifest match
# [10:33] <baku> with 2. I don't mean that origin == manifest.
# [10:33] <sicking> i would split up 1 into two cases
# [10:33] <baku> I mean that there is an app with origin == callee.origin and the manifest is what the callee wants.
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# [10:33] <sicking> 1a. the callis is not an app but the manifestURL.origin != callee.origin
# [10:34] <sicking> 1b. the callee is not an app and the manifestURL.origin == callee.origin
# [10:34] <baku> yep
# [10:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d682c2055a4 - Gary Kwong - Bug 696305 - Update i686 and x86_64 Linux Valgrind suppression files. DONTBUILD
# [10:34] <sicking> basically, for amInstalled (isInstalled) we shouldn't care if the callee is an app or not
# [10:34] <sicking> we should only care if the callee.origin == manifestURL.origin
# [10:35] <sicking> the they are not same-origin, we should throw. If they are same-origin, we should check if an app with the provided manifestURL is installed
# [10:35] <sicking> so
# [10:35] <sicking> 1a and 2 should throw
# [10:35] <baku> right... but if the app is not installed
# [10:35] <baku> I cannot know manifestURL.origin
# [10:36] <sicking> sure you can, you can get the origin by just looking at the provided URL
# [10:36] <sicking> the origin is strictly a function of the URL
# [10:36] <baku> ok because origin and manifest are related.
# [10:36] <baku> ok this step was missing :)
# [10:36] <baku> now it makes sense.
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# [10:37] <sicking> the origin for "http://foo.bar.com/path/here/page.html" is "http://foo.bar.com"
# [10:37] <sicking> the origin for "https://foo.bar.com:1234/path/here/page.html" is "https://foo.bar.com:1234"
# [10:37] <sicking> cool :)
# [10:37] <baku> of couse but I was thinking that the manifest can be hosted by somewhere else host/origin.
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# [10:37] <baku> cool. get it.
# [10:37] <sicking> it's very much not obvious how to do same-origin checks though
# [10:38] <sicking> for apps, we consider the origin of the app to be the origin of the manifestURL
# [10:38] <baku> ah... what about the rest of the webapps.js?
# [10:38] <baku> for example, there is this getManifestFor(origin)
# [10:38] <sicking> the way you should check same-origin-ness here is probably by getting the principal of the caller
# [10:38] <sicking> then calling principal->CheckMayLoad(passedInManifestURL)
# [10:39] <baku> ok
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# [10:40] <glandium> sewardj: valgrind doesn't ignore leaks from tls? (793611)
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# [10:50] <sicking> baku: I'm off to bed, thanks for taking on that bug!
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# [10:50] <baku> sicking, have a nice night! see you tomorrow!
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# [10:57] <sewardj> glandium: doesn't ignore leaks from tls .. not sure what you mean
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# [10:58] <glandium> sewardj: see bug 793611
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# [11:00] <sewardj> glandium: so you think that leak report is invalid?
# [11:01] <glandium> sewardj: i think glibc never frees tls segments
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# [11:03] <sewardj> glandium: well, V has no special knowledge about TLS anything
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# [11:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d5d96d59781 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 778682. Part 1: Add NotifyHasCurrentData callback on StreamListener. r=jesup
# [11:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6211dca38071 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 791616. Part 2: Add API to ScrollIntoView methods to control whether to scroll in a direction when that direction is not a perceived scrollable direction. r=mats
# [11:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50d89c05af5b - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 791616. Part 1: Add nsIScrollableFrame::GetPerceivedScrollingDirections to consolidate logic for whether UI actions should be allowed to scroll in a given
# [11:09] <firebot> direction. r=mats
# [11:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3425c7e124b0 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 792665. Stop allowing HTMLMediaElement.src = mediaStream, and support HTMLMediaElement.mozSrcObject = mediaStream instead. r=cpearce,jesup
# [11:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a04c322290d7 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 791616. Part 3: Don't scroll vertically to get the caret into view if that's not a perceived scrollable direction. r=mats
# [11:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd491a087614 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 778682. Part 2: Wait for NotifyHasCurrentData(true) callback on the input stream before entering HAVE_CURRENT_DATA for a media element. r=cpearce
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# [11:57] <edmorley> roc: ping
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# [12:02] <paul> Could someone give me some pointer about how we preserve tabs content (docshell?) while they are moved to a new window?
# [12:03] <@roc> edmorley: hi
# [12:03] <@roc> paul: swapDocShells
# [12:03] <edmorley> roc: there is unfortunately m4 orange on your inbound push
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# [12:03] <@roc> I see
# [12:04] <@roc> I will back out bug 791616
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# [12:05] <edmorley> roc: thanks :-)
# [12:07] <nigelb> edmorley doesn't even need to say anything.
# [12:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d678fc7cfbef - Robert O'Callahan - Back out bug 791616 due to test failure.
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# [12:11] <paul> roc: thank you
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# [12:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d8bdbcc40f9 - Bobby Holley - Bug 783702 - Call through to get() for hasPrototype() path in getElementIfPresent(). r=ejpbruel
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# [12:38] <@smaug> cpearce: ping
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# [12:40] <Yoric> gavin: At some point, I would be interested in publishing a post-mortem for bug 790649 on my blog. Given that this but is currently confidential, I should probably wait until it is declassified. Given, however, that this bug is not really a security bug as first believed, how do I request declassification?
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# [12:57] <Optimizer> is there a channel for firefox sync related questions ?
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# [12:57] <nigelb> Optimizer: #sync
# [12:57] <Optimizer> or a doc for developers ?
# [12:57] <Optimizer> of thanks :)
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# [12:58] <Optimizer> oh*
# [12:59] <nigelb> Optimizer: the sync team is mostly california, so wait until PST wakes up.
# [12:59] <Optimizer> oh
# [12:59] <Optimizer> any one here would know anything about pref syncing ?
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# [13:00] <Unfocused> we'll never know if we can answer if you never ask
# [13:01] <Optimizer> ok here it goes
# [13:01] <Optimizer> when you have a custom pref that you have enabled to be synced, how does this use case is taken care of
# [13:02] <Optimizer> I set it on my one machine, after some time, it gets copied to the other one: OK
# [13:02] <Optimizer> I change it here now, and after some time change is reflected on the other machine : OK
# [13:02] <Optimizer> and vice versa
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# [13:02] <Optimizer> but what if before the next sync, both the machines have changes
# [13:02] <Optimizer> which one i ssyned to which one
# [13:02] <Optimizer> ?
# [13:03] <Unfocused> iirc, changes are timestamped. so the most recent change wins
# [13:03] <Optimizer> and is there any limit to the value of the pref that I can sync
# [13:03] <Optimizer> size limit
# [13:03] <Optimizer> ?
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# [13:05] <Unfocused> not that i know of
# [13:05] <Optimizer> so per se, I can sync a 80 kb pref ?
# [13:05] <@smaug> glandium: ping
# [13:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83737cad6889 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 791616. Part 3: Don't scroll vertically to get the caret into view if that's not a perceived scrollable direction. r=mats
# [13:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de04a102395f - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 791616. Part 2: Add API to ScrollIntoView methods to control whether to scroll in a direction when that direction is not a perceived scrollable direction. r=mats
# [13:05] <glandium> smaug: pong
# [13:05] <Unfocused> er, that sounds like abuse of prefs, even ignoring sync :)
# [13:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46fce5a9890f - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 791616. Part 1: Add nsIScrollableFrame::GetPerceivedScrollingDirections to consolidate logic for whether UI actions should be allowed to scroll in a given
# [13:05] <firebot> direction. r=mats
# [13:06] <@smaug> glandium: about the cycle collection participants ..
# [13:06] <Optimizer> Unfocused: it is, I know , that is why I have a feeling that there is a limit, to either one of them
# [13:06] * Unfocused shrugs
# [13:06] <@smaug> glandium: there is isSkippable static variable
# [13:07] <Yoric> Optimizer: For the moment, we don't like 80kb prefs :)
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# [13:07] <@smaug> how does that work when one inherits some other participant
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# [13:07] <Yoric> Optimizer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789945
# [13:08] <Optimizer> is there any other way I can sync some files across machines ?
# [13:08] <@smaug> It seems to work correctly (inherited classes get CanSkip calls, and if there are nested skippable participants, only the last on gets canSkip)
# [13:08] <@smaug> but the code is hard to follow
# [13:08] <Optimizer> holy cow, using the main thread !!
# [13:08] <glandium> smaug: it should be set to true on all things except the basic nsCycleCollectionParticipants
# [13:09] <glandium> smaug: (and derived classes)
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# [13:09] <@smaug> ah
# [13:09] <Yoric> Optimizer: I will try and fix that.
# [13:09] <glandium> smaug: basically, it's c++ inheritance
# [13:09] <Optimizer> Yoric: :)
# [13:10] <@smaug> glandium: erm, ""(and derived classes)
# [13:10] <Optimizer> So any other way to sync some files ? (as an addon developer)
# [13:10] <glandium> smaug: well, derived directly from nsCycleCollectionParticipants, not from its subclasses defined in nsCycleCollectionParticipant.h
# [13:11] <@smaug> ah, I missed one static const bool isSkippable = true;
# [13:11] <glandium> smaug: although, with the recent changes to nsCycleCollectionParticipant, aren't all classes skippable, now?
# [13:11] <@smaug> somehow I had noticed static const bool isSkippable = true; only in the skippable cases
# [13:13] <@smaug> yeah, mccr8 changed the _NATIVE stuff recently
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# [13:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e950ed8dc21f - Alexander Surkov - Bug 782991 - enable more logging of states/test_link.html
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# [13:50] <@smaug> um, more chrome js leaks
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# [14:10] <gabor> thanks god that this guide comes with a picture for the lazy: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules
# [14:12] <mounir> 1.9.2 is still alive?!
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# [14:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a18b979c82c - Cameron McCormack - Bug 793612 - Make nsSVGArcConverter robust against zero-sized arc segments. r=longsonr
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# [14:23] <@khuey> mounir: no
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# [14:23] <@khuey> hmm
# [14:24] <@khuey> I think somebody regressed content-disposition filename
# [14:26] <Pike> I'd call that a feature :-)
# [14:26] <Unfocused> srsly
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# [14:40] <dao> khuey: bug 254139?
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# [14:50] <@khuey> dao: seems plausible
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# [14:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/633082d3e546 - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - More manual fixes requested by Andrew. r=mccr8
# [14:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f0be04eee5f - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Refactor AttachComponentsObject API to allow an explicit target. r=mrbkap
# [14:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8583bee3c37 - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Fix up tests to avoid relying on the existence of window.Components (MANUAL). r=mccr8
# [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3f7731dd39c - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Fix sandbox xpcshell tests. r=gabor
# [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc84f6a237d7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Expose |Components| to content in the indexedDB test harness. r=bent
# [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f7c4fae49c0 - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Automated fixups. r=mccr8
# [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1460d44ec8de - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Add a SpecialPowers API to provide access to the Components object in various forms. r=mrbkap,ted
# [14:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65e5f5c48ffc - Bobby Holley - Bug 792036 - Factor out glue code to get the JS Components object for a scope. r=mrbkap
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# [15:22] <RattyAway> Hi! Does this build failure look familiar to anyone? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1839888
# [15:23] <RattyAway> TestStartupCache.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol etc etc.
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# [15:24] <@khuey> my psychic powers tell me that you did not rebuild hard enough after pulling
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# [15:25] <Bas> khuey RattyAway: When in doubt, clobber.
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# [15:26] <RattyAway> Bah, looks like I need to clobber every day now.
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# [16:17] <NeilAway> glandium: RattyAway and I both tripped over a linking error in TestStartupCache.exe because xul.lib had been updated but the new version hadn't been copied to dist/lib so TestStartupCache was trying to link to the wrong library
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# [16:19] <NeilAway> khuey: that linking error in TestStartupCache.exe was because xul.lib had been updated but the new version hadn't been copied to dist/lib so TestStartupCache was trying to link to the wrong library
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# [16:20] <@khuey> mmm
# [16:20] <@khuey> that's fun
# [16:20] <@khuey> why hadn't the import library been copied over?
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# [16:20] <NeilAway> khuey: no idea, it got copied when I ran make libs in toolkit/library
# [16:21] <NeilAway> khuey: so I'm guessing some sort of race condition
# [16:21] <@khuey> fun
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# [16:22] <glandium> NeilAway: race condition shouldn't happen. tests are built in a completely separate tier
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# [16:23] <glandium> (technically not a tier, but the result is the same)
# [16:23] <@khuey> yeah, that's why I'm confused
# [16:23] <glandium> khuey: it's even more confusing now that NeilAway said make -C toolkit/library libs fixed it
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# [16:27] <jwir3> is "Group your tabs" the same as panorama?
# [16:27] <glandium> jwir3: yes
# [16:27] <jwir3> cool, thanks
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# [16:40] <NeilAway> glandium: well, I thought that somehow the rule to copy xul.lib to dist/lib was racing with the rule to link xul.dll
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# [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e327e66a027d - Kyle Huey - Bug 793554: Devirtualize mozilla::css::Loader::[AddRef|Release] r=dbaron
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# [16:43] <jwir3> is there a way to search in bugzilla for all bugs assigned to me that have patches that are still review?
# [16:43] <glob> jwir3, use "my requests" (header/footer)
# [16:44] <jwir3> glob: ah. yeah it was so obvious I didn't see it.
# [16:44] <jwir3> thanks
# [16:44] <glob> jwir3, actually, that isn't exactly what you need .. that's only for flags that you've set
# [16:44] <jwir3> glob: oh
# [16:44] <glob> jwir3, you can do it with an advanced search, hang on i'll brew one up
# [16:45] <jwir3> glob: ok
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# [16:45] <glob> jwir3, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/query.cgi?email1=glob%40mozilla.com&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&list_id=4479387&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&resolution=DUPLICATE&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=review%3F
# [16:46] <KaiRo> khuey: is that fatal assert you talk about in http://blog.kylehuey.com/post/32081621556 active in debug builds only or does it mean we get crashes reported from it?
# [16:46] <glob> jwir3, you'll have to change the 'bug assignee' under 'search by people' to yourself, of course
# [16:46] <KaiRo> (crashes in opt builds out in the wild, that is)
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# [16:47] <jwir3> glob: awesome. thank you
# [16:47] <jwir3> glob++
# [16:47] <glob> yw
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# [16:51] <@khuey> KaiRo: debug only
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# [16:59] * NeilAway was going to thwap khuey for causing http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/e327e66a027d/layout/style/Loader.h#l467 but finds http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/e327e66a027d/layout/style/Loader.h#l101 which is even worse
# [17:00] <glandium> oh man, jetpack observers don't even give the topic
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# [17:12] <Optimizer> dao: I didn;t understand your latest comment
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# [17:13] <Optimizer> even the diff is showing the changes properly and it nothing will change even if I change 4 to 8
# [17:13] <Optimizer> (diff in bugzilla)
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# [17:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e307925e4f29 - Bas Schouten - Bug 792207 - Part 1: Retain ScaledFont objects for gfxFonts. r=jrmuizel
# [17:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee2e60a30934 - Bas Schouten - Bug 792207 - Part 5: Add code to Azure to allow initializing recording. r=jrmuizel
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# [17:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68876e7d17ea - Bas Schouten - Bug 792207 - Part 3: Add UserData to ScaledFont. r=jrmuizel
# [17:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed2e2da7d098 - Bas Schouten - Bug 792207 - Part 4: Add Azure recording code. r=jrmuizel
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# [17:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30bde31be9d4 - Bas Schouten - Bug 792207 - Part 2: Add method to store and create from TrueType data. r=jrmuizel
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# [17:17] <borjasalguero> Hi all, Im creating a bootstrapped extension for adding a new functionality to 'window' object, I've loaded dinamically my Component and I only need to register as "JavaScript global property"
# [17:17] <borjasalguero> Any help?
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# [17:17] <dao> Optimizer: I'm not saying the diff shows the changes incorrectly. I'm saying the changes lack context -- context that is relevant for what I said about the background styling
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# [17:21] <glandium> past: ping
# [17:21] <past> glandium: pong
# [17:22] <glandium> past: so, i've done bug 793672, and now i need two more notifications. i'm starting to think we should have an api to just add observers for any topic
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# [17:24] <past> glandium: in a meeting right now, but I need to think a bit about it
# [17:24] <glandium> past: when does you meeting end?
# [17:25] <past> glandium: it shouldn't be long now. I wonder how common observers will be for actors
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# [17:29] <KWierso|Home> borjasalguero: you might try #extdev
# [17:29] <borjasalguero> KWierso|Home I tried! That's why Im asking here as well...
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# [17:31] <jwatt> is anyone here able to actually get either of the following two links to work to start download of these sdks?
# [17:31] <jwatt> http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=31210
# [17:31] <jwatt> http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=31242
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# [17:33] <glandium> past: this should probably be handled at the client level, not actor
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# [17:43] <zzzzz> jwatt: nope, not working here either
# [17:44] <jwatt> zzzzz: ms is claiming it totally works fine for them :/
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# [17:46] <zzzzz> nont working in latest Chrome dev either -
# [17:46] <zzzzz> both Chrome and Fx gives: http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/0/E/80EBBF72-FC51-4799-A2F4-7FCCA37B8BB3/dx9sdk.exe
# [17:47] <zzzzz> No webpage was found for the web addres
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# [17:48] <zzzzz> works in IE9 - go figure :P
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# [17:50] <paul> I get this error, even after a clobber: ../../dist/include/nscore.h:29:10: fatal error: 'mozilla/NullPtr.h' file not found
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# [17:51] <@gavin> Yoric: if you can confirm that it's not a security problem (comment 21 seems uncertain), then just comment in the bug saying so and someone can open it up
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# [18:07] <@ehsan> gkw: please CC me on the valgrind bugs that I can actually help with -- I just mass-unCCed myself from all of them since I don't have time to look at each one individually
# [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71b59b120de8 - Wes Johnston - Bug 791612 - Hide other origin bar when tabs are changed. r=mfinkle
# [18:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e42062ef7433 - Wes Johnston - Bug 786826 - Use SharedPrefs.commit in WebAppAllocator for Eclair compatibility r=mfinkle
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# [18:12] <evilpie> bz: ping
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# [18:14] <jwatt> zzzzz: does it actually work in IE9, or does it just give you a small file to download - I suspect the 404 page
# [18:15] <zzzzz> didn't actually let it start up - got the dialog box what do i want to do with this file.. and quit - hang on i'll try again
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# [18:16] <jwatt> zzzzz: I guess if you look at the contents of the file it will be the html of the 404 page rather than the sdk
# [18:16] <zzzzz> yeah, won't actually download in ie either - sorry for the false alarm
# [18:17] <zzzzz> error msg: dx9sdk_exe couldn't be downloaded
# [18:17] <zzzzz> kinda tacky me thinks to use a contraction :P
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# [18:18] <jwatt> zzzzz: so to be clear, the dialog box results in downloading the 404 page?
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# [18:18] <zzzzz> yes
# [18:18] <jwatt> zzzzz: thanks
# [18:19] <zzzzz> 404 - File or directory not found.
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# [18:19] <zzzzz> The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
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# [18:23] <jwatt> zzzzz: thanks
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# [18:25] <gkw> ehsan: ok!
# [18:26] <past> glandium: so, are you asking for something like DebuggerServer.addObserver(topic, actor) ?
# [18:27] <gkw> ehsan: i've removed you from the bug report template - not sure what areas you can help with
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# [18:27] <@ehsan> ok, well, then I assume that other folks will CC me when needed!
# [18:27] <glandium> past: with s/actor/client/
# [18:27] <glandium> past: the notification would go to the client
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# [18:28] <glandium> independently of an actor, i guess
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# [18:28] <past> glandium: how would that work? The client is across the remote connection
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# [18:29] <glandium> past: like unsolicited notifications
# [18:30] <past> glandium: ah, are you suggesting registering topics with the server to be treated as server-side events?
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# [18:30] <past> glandium: I thank that makes sense
# [18:30] <glandium> past: i want the server-side events to be sent to the client
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# [18:31] <jrconlin> past, glandium: FYI, there are several "notification" efforts currently. Please don't start another.
# [18:32] <jrconlin> (Sorry "notification" is a keyword that summoned me.)
# [18:32] <glandium> jrconlin: if you're talking about things like the alert service, that's not what we're talking about
# [18:32] <past> jrconlin: I'm not sure they are relevant to what we are discussing. What sort of notifications are you talking about?
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# [18:33] <jrconlin> Notification = Remotely served, short message based service.
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# [18:34] <jrconlin> I saw the "server-side event" and "notification" and triggered.
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# [18:34] <jrconlin> If I'm wrong, I'm happy to shut the heck up.
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# [18:34] <past> jrconlin: ah, we are only talking about the remote debugging protocol
# [18:34] <glandium> jrconlin: http://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/?
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# [18:34] <@bsmedberg> Can one register generic error handlers using document.addEventListener('error') or window.addEventListener('error') ?
# [18:34] <jrconlin> past: Ah, cool. Glad to be wrong. Will now shut up.
# [18:34] <@bsmedberg> Or can that only be done with .onerror?
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# [18:36] <@bz> bsmedberg: yes
# [18:36] <@bz> bsmedberg: on window
# [18:37] <@bsmedberg> ty
# [18:37] <@bz> bsmedberg: though the info they get will be different from what onerror gets...
# [18:37] <@bsmedberg> bz: oh?
# [18:37] <@bz> bsmedberg: (e.g. an error event, instead of file/line/whatever arguments)
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# [18:37] <@bsmedberg> bz: do you get the actual exception object anywhere? I want the .stack really
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# [18:39] <@bz> We don't seem to have a stack there, no
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# [18:40] <@bz> what we have to work with is a JSErrorReport
# [18:40] <@bz> so by the time our code is called from jseng, I think the stack info is already gone
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# [18:41] <wlach> tzimmermann: did you test that orangutan scripts work as expected with your new kernel module? (e.g. drag and press get recognized)
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# [18:43] <tzimmermann> wlach: no. i only tested the module itself and that orangutan scripts are forwarded to b2g
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# [18:43] <tzimmermann> wlach: how do i do that?
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# [18:44] <tzimmermann> i mean: the events generated by a script are forwarded, not the script itself
# [18:44] <wlach> tzimmermann: I don't really have a lot of experience with b2g, but one quick way would probably be to try the example script that we have in the README.md when a webpage like nightly.mozilla.org is loaded
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# [18:45] <wlach> tzimmermann: mdas might be able to give additional assistance with testing if needed (she has an actual b2g panda running)
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# [18:48] <tzimmermann> wlach: until now, i have not been able to do much within the b2g gui on the pandaboard, i'll try to get this running very soon. how can i observe the success/failure of a script? are there any log messages?
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# [18:48] <@gavin> bz: can a drawWindow call trigger a transitionend event handler?
# [18:48] <wlach> tzimmermann: do you have the board connected to HDMI out? observation is generally what I use for testing
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# [18:49] <tzimmermann> wlach: yes i have hdmi output. ok, i'll just look what happens on the screen.
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# [18:50] <@bz> gavin: I'm not sure
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# [18:52] <tzimmermann> mdas: do you build your own kernel, or use a pre-built one?
# [18:52] <mdas> tzimmermann: I build from the b2g source each time
# [18:53] <bent> hm, anyone remember what ff version is on trunk?
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# [18:53] <Ms2ger> 18
# [18:53] <@bsmedberg> 18.0a1?
# [18:54] <bent> so aurora is 17, beta 16
# [18:54] <@bsmedberg> bent: http://whattrainisitnow.com/
# [18:54] <tzimmermann> mdas: ok great, so building the module should be straight forward.
# [18:54] <bent> hilarious!
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# [18:54] <bent> bsmedberg, thanks
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# [18:57] <irving> Having trouble getting Aurora symbols from the symbol server: HTTP error 404 retrieving http://symbols.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-17.0a2-Darwin-20120921042009-macosx64-symbols.txt
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# [18:59] <tzimmermann> mdas: fastboot's erase is not supported on the pandaboard. i wanted to build a workaround. then i saw https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778248 . do you know if there are other problems when flashing pandaboards (besides all the issues that happen only irregularly)?
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# [19:00] <mdas> tzimmermann: all the problems I ran into when flashing the pandaboard are listed here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Pandaboard
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# [19:01] <mdas> tzimmermann: there isn't many things that are notable aside from the 'erase userdata' problem
# [19:01] <Optimizer> dao: I can now see what you meant, sorry for not noticing it earlier
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# [19:01] <mdas> tzimmermann: but you say that erase doesn't work at all? It seems it's successful at erasing 'cache' partition
# [19:01] <@gavin> bz: any ideas for who to ask next? :)
# [19:02] <Optimizer> but then since checked=true will have one css line extra, clubbing will now result into a lot of wasted lines :)
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# [19:03] <tzimmermann> mdas: well it sort of works. is takes ~40min to erase the userdata partition.
# [19:03] <tzimmermann> mdas: i'll try to build a workaround.
# [19:03] <mdas> tzimmermann: oh wow, i never waited around that long :P
# [19:03] <mdas> sounds good
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# [19:05] <Optimizer> infact it is exactly one line less than what it is right now
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# [19:06] <@gavin> transitionend events are fired from under nsRefreshDriver::Notify. can that be called synchronously under drawWindow()?
# [19:08] <@bz> gavin: about which?
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# [19:08] <@gavin> bz: about whether nsRefreshDriver::Notify can be called synchronously under drawWindow()
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# [19:08] <@gavin> ok
# [19:08] <@bz> gavin: but I suspect the answer to the question phrased that way should be "no"
# [19:08] <@bz> gavin: modulo XBL
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# [19:09] <@gavin> yeah, refresh driver stuff seems to all be off an event or timer
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# [19:09] <@dbaron> that's what I thought, but bz's the expert :-)
# [19:09] <@gavin> (Aside from the testing methods, but those aren't in play here)
# [19:10] <@bz> My real issue was not knowing what all fires transitionend. ;)
# [19:10] <@gavin> dbaron: bug 774009 is a strange orange where a drawWindow call seems to somehow trigger a tab close
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# [19:11] <@gavin> tab closes occur in transitionend event handlers, so I thought maybe that waas the explanation
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# [19:19] <gwagner> smaug: ping
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# [19:21] <@smaug> gwagner: pong
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# [19:22] <gwagner> smaug: do you know if it is safe to remove the current observer in the observe function?
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# [19:23] <@smaug> you mean notificationservice thing? AFAIK it is safe
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# [19:26] <gwagner> smaug: I see a really wired bug in b2g where we don't call an active observer but an already removed one.
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# [19:55] <Pike> ehsan: the 'fa' merge was easy, mind if I push?
# [19:55] <Pike> to l10n-central, that is
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# [19:57] <@ehsan> Pike: not at all
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# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6580000865f2 - L. David Baron - Bug 774169, patch 1: Make the property_database.js-based tests call getComputedStyle() for all properties that are expected to have longhand behavior. r=bzbarsky
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# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bfa037b4d51e - L. David Baron - Bug 774169, patch 3: Treat -moz-transform as a shorthand rather than an alias so the parsing function can know whether it is parsing a prefixed transform. r=bzbarsky
# [19:57] <firebot> approval-mozilla-beta=akeybl
# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ff0032b0ad00 - L. David Baron - Bug 774169, patch 4: Revert bug 719054 for prefixed -moz-transform but leave it for unprefixed transform. r=bzbarsky approval-mozilla-beta=akeybl
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# [19:58] <@smaug> dholbert: oh, some new layout hacker. Make him to reduce the reflow related jank :)
# [19:58] <@bz> hmm
# [19:58] <@bz> we have reflow related jank?
# [19:59] <@bz> On flushes, or refresh ticks?
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# [19:59] <@smaug> bz: when you load html spec, reflow sure causes jank
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# [20:00] <@bz> smaug: ah
# [20:00] <@bz> smaug: mm
# [20:00] <@bz> smaug: which version of the html spec?
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# [20:00] <@smaug> whatwg full
# [20:00] <@bz> smaug: some of the versions do in fact have flushes. :(
# [20:01] <@bz> smaug: yeah, that one does
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# [20:01] <@bz> smaug: I know how to make it a lot better
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# [20:01] <@bz> smaug: well, rather what makes it bad
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# [20:01] <@bz> smaug: not necessarily how to fix
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# [20:01] <@smaug> bz: in general, how optimized is reflow?
# [20:01] <@ehsan> smaug: about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793294#c12, if I hold on to a js ref, would gc just not attempt to collect that object?
# [20:01] <@bz> smaug: "depends"
# [20:01] <dholbert> smaug, yeah! welcome seth :)
# [20:02] <@bz> smaug: it's very complicated, and errs on the side of being correct
# [20:02] <@bz> smaug: usually
# [20:02] <@bz> smaug: but tries hard to avoid algorithmic blowup
# [20:02] <@bz> smaug: O(N^2) or worse
# [20:03] <@smaug> ehsan: you need to say something like NS_HOLD_JS_OBJECTS(this, AudioBuffer) so what xpconnect knows that the object is keeping some js alive
# [20:03] <@ehsan> smaug: yes but I was trying to see a crash etc before I make that change in the test
# [20:03] <@ehsan> to make sure that I'm testing the right thing
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# [20:05] <@smaug> ehsan: so you don't see problems if you create the object, gc few times, and then try to use the array ?
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# [20:05] <@bz> smaug: what I really want to know is cases in which we run for too long in reflow on that page
# [20:05] <@bz> smaug: and why we don't interrup the reflow for them
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# [20:06] <@bz> smaug: perhaps move the mInterruptsEnabled check in nsPresContext::CheckForInterrupt to after the other checks?
# [20:06] <@smaug> bz: also, I think when we do interrupt, we should let user input to be processed longer
# [20:07] <@ehsan> smaug: actually seemed like gc'ing more than once does indeed cause crashes
# [20:07] <@ehsan> which is good!
# [20:07] <@ehsan> hrm
# [20:07] <@bz> smaug: hm
# [20:07] <@bz> smaug: we use a 30ms timer right now
# [20:07] <@ehsan> also, gc'ing once will _sometimes_ reproduce
# [20:08] <@ehsan> hrm weird
# [20:08] <@bz> smaug: for continuing interrupted reflow
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# [20:08] <@bz> smaug: you can test that theory by changing that time value and seeing how things look?
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# [20:11] <vikash> Google Code-In now officially Announced. http://google-opensource.blogspot.in/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-high-school.html [cc: gerv sheppy-afk ]
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# [20:17] <jhammel> is try currently not working and/or was the tree broken? so far i have three build failures on a talos.json change https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=61dfbb9c50e3
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# [20:20] <jimm> armenzg: should I land a white space change to trigger some builds?
# [20:20] <@ehsan> smaug: another question, it seems like DROP_JS_OBJECTS is not idemponent, so I can't call it from both Unlink and the destructor
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# [20:20] <@ehsan> smaug: how do we usually handle this case?
# [20:21] <armenzg> jimm: after my landings?
# [20:21] <jimm> yes
# [20:21] <armenzg> jimm: I still have to reconfigure the buildbot masters to pick up the changes
# [20:21] <jimm> ah ok
# [20:21] <armenzg> jimm: we also need to land the mozconfigs which I hope I can land myself
# [20:21] <_AtilA_> Is there anyone with some experience on inline assembly for ARM? (and gcc)
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# [20:22] <armenzg> jimm: I am going to be doing reconfigurations soon to grab this change
# [20:22] <@smaug> ehsan: in common case there is just one value to store
# [20:22] <@smaug> and if it is non-null, NS_DROP_JS_OBJECTS is needed
# [20:22] <jimm> armenzg: ok sound good.
# [20:22] <@smaug> either in unlink or dtor
# [20:22] <Waldo> Mook_as: simply because nobody's done the work for MOZ_ASSERT_IF to make it take a message; I had a little bit of a patch in my tree at one point, but I haven't had time to finish it off and post it
# [20:23] <@ehsan> smaug: actually reading more through mccr8's comments on the bug, it seems like calling PreserveWrapper ensures that the object will be killed by CC
# [20:23] <@smaug> ehsan: couldn't you check the length of the array ?
# [20:23] <@smaug> if it is > 0, it has something
# [20:23] <@ehsan> which means that I can just stick to doing it in Unlink()
# [20:23] <@ehsan> smaug: yeah that would work too
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# [20:46] <@ted> philor: i think i found the cause of that breakpad update bustage on winxp
# [20:46] <@ted> screwed up while upstreaming one of our patches
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# [20:49] <@ehsan> bz: ping
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# [20:50] <philor> ted: sweet, because 10.8 has been mocking me for backing it out and failing the tests I misdisabled ever since
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# [20:52] <@bz> ehsan: ack
# [20:53] <@ehsan> bz: so, [Creator] is a mozilla attrib, right?
# [20:53] <@bz> yes
# [20:53] <@bz> that's why it's documented separately in the bindings docs
# [20:53] <@ted> philor: gonna push it to try to be sure
# [20:53] * @bz is not documenting the standard stuff
# [20:53] <@ted> but i could reproduce the failure mode on this WinXP VM
# [20:53] <@ted> so i'm fairly confident
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# [20:54] <@bz> ehsan: sorry, connection dropped for a sec
# [20:54] <@ehsan> bz: oh ok. well firstly, this is an example of why it's not a great idea to mix and match IDL attribs like we currently do ;)
# [20:54] <@bz> ehsan: heh
# [20:54] <@ehsan> bz: secondly, which docs are you talking about? :)
# [20:54] <@ehsan> cause I was going to ask what it does!
# [20:54] <@bz> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Creator
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# [20:54] <@ehsan> huh
# [20:54] <@ehsan> this page has changed much since I last checked it out :)
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# [20:55] <Anarchy> hrrm
# [20:55] <@ehsan> great
# [20:55] <Anarchy> smaug, you still handling everything hunspell?
# [20:56] <@smaug> "everything"
# [20:56] <@smaug> ehsan and I could probably review the patches
# [20:56] <@bz> ehsan: the other thing we can use [Creator] for, but don't yet, is speeding up JS-wrapping of the return value a tad
# [20:56] <@ehsan> Anarchy: yeah I can help to review your patches
# [20:57] <Anarchy> I got an error and not sure how to solve, but the patch has been up for months and noone can agree on plugin or current implemtation.
# [20:57] <@bz> ehsan: since we know it has no wrapper, so don't need to check for it
# [20:57] * @bz is not sure how much of a win that is in practice
# [20:57] <@ehsan> bz: yep you suggested that on the bug
# [20:57] <@ehsan> bz: probably less than 90% improvement ;)
# [20:58] <Anarchy> smaug, mind if I query you a minute?
# [20:58] <@bz> ehsan: well, yes. ;)
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# [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/584119bf249d - Gary Kwong - Bug 793551 - Add --disable-install-strip to Valgrind mozconfigs for Linux32 and Linux64, r=ted
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# [21:07] <@ehsan> jdm: which comment were you mentioning here? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722850#c18
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# [21:08] <jdm> ehsan: "Why did you remove the cookie-changed notification? That seems wrong..."
# [21:08] <@ehsan> oh I see
# [21:08] <@ehsan> ok
# [21:09] <@ehsan> jdm: do you want me to review that part of the patch?
# [21:09] <@ehsan> given the amazing job I did last time? ;)
# [21:09] <sicking> fabrice1: how does gSystemMessenger.broadcastMessage work? Does it send a system message to all apps that has called setMessageHandler? Or just ones that have registered the message in the manifest *and* called setMessageHandler?
# [21:09] <jdm> ehsan: ha. I'm not certain who else there is. Maybe I'll flag jduell for ideas.
# [21:10] <@ehsan> jdm: please do. I'll take a look too
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# [21:13] <jdm> myk: I can't figure out how to use the b2g helper environment on linux
# [21:13] <jdm> the tools options do nothing
# [21:13] <myk> jdm: linux?
# [21:13] <jdm> and I couldn't find a description of what they're supposed to do
# [21:13] <myk> jdm: i'm troubleshooting that problem on linux
# [21:13] <myk> jdm: B2G Desktop should open B2G Desktop!
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# [21:13] <jdm> well, it doesn't :)
# [21:13] <myk> jdm: it does on Mac; it does on Windows, too, but then B2G Desktop crashes
# [21:13] <jdm> and there's no error console entry
# [21:13] <myk> jdm: what platform?
# [21:14] <jdm> myk: fedora 17
# [21:14] <myk> jdm: and are you on version 0.2?
# [21:14] <jdm> I'm on the one linked from the wiki
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# [21:50] <zzzzz_> gerv: another not so nice person that needs some love https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85601#c89
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# [21:52] <@gavin> jrmuizel: what makes you think bug 792437 is a regression?
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# [21:53] <jrmuizel> gavin: intuition? :)
# [21:53] <jrmuizel> gavin: let me try to check
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# [21:53] <@gavin> afaik we have not changed the time we load favicons since DOMLinkAdded was introduced
# [21:53] <@gavin> which I think is since forever
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# [21:57] <@gavin> biesi: dunno if it's still on your todo list, but some feedback on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789932#c8 would be awesome
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# [21:58] <biesi> gavin, yeah... hm...
# [21:58] <biesi> I'll try to find some time to comment
# [21:58] <biesi> kinda distracted right now
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# [21:58] <@gavin> no big rush, whenever you have a chance would be great
# [21:59] <@gavin> smaug: what branches do you want bug 780594 on?
# [21:59] <@smaug> dunno
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# [21:59] <@smaug> it didn't fix the problem
# [22:00] <@gavin> ok, I'll forget about that then
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# [22:20] <@gavin> I was trying to avoid doing my taxes yesterday, so I decided to look into some top oranges
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# [22:39] <gps> TIL that mercurial has progress bars. you just need to enable the built-in progress extension. it's actually quite useful!
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# [22:40] <Mossop> yep
# [22:40] <Mossop> There's a lot in mercurial that really should be just on by default, I don't know why it isnt
# [22:40] <gps> it blows my mind that such useful features must be explicitly enabled. the experience should be awesome out of the box
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# [22:42] <gkw> bz: so bug 793600 should be resolved invalid?
# [22:42] <Mossop> gps: Just like git</snark>
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# [22:42] <gkw> bz: will line numbers on the stack help?
# [22:42] <@bz> gkw: someone who knows fontconfig should look
# [22:42] <@bz> gkw: yes
# [22:42] <gkw> bz: who would know fontconfig?
# [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85d6cbd01d39 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 781053 - Part 3 - Force the throbber into it's own layer. r=roc
# [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56fc051c1932 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 781053 - Part 2 - Trigger empty transactions when an animated image in an ImageLayer changes frame. r=roc
# [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2ad17b87332 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 781053 - Part 1 - Allow conversion of nsImageBoxFrame to an ImageLayer. r=roc
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# [22:43] <gkw> bz: ok, i'll cc
# [22:43] <gkw> thanks
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# [22:46] <jaws> bkero: ping?
# [22:46] <bkero> jaws: pong
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# [22:47] <jaws> bkero: can you help with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791864 ?
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# [22:51] <jaws> k thanks
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# [22:54] <bkero> jaws: Can you try now?
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# [22:59] <sicking> mounir: hmm... I think i wanted you to chat with bent about "clear data" notifications. He suggested using an XPCOM category rather than a observerservice notification to solve the problem of "have to start the object so that it's listening to the notification even if we otherwise hadn't started the relevant code"
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# [23:00] <bent> sicking, we're chatting in #b2g
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# [23:09] <NeilAway> gps: so, when can we stop using the full path to make.py?
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# [23:10] <gps> NeilAway: when mach lands and supports building the tree, it will use gmake vs pymake depending on the platform
# [23:10] <gps> it will also specify an optimal -j value so you don't have to configure the build to be faster
# [23:11] <gps> "it just works"
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# [23:11] <gps> bug 751795 for that work
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# [23:12] <Jesse_> i want gdb to break while a script (which i control) is running. iirc, there's a trick for doing that involving Math.sin()...
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# [23:12] <gcp> so is it a=gsharp? a=gavin?
# [23:13] <@gavin> huh?
# [23:13] <tn> Jesse_, call dump() in the script and break on nsGlobalWindow::Dump?
# [23:13] <@gavin> oh, you're just asking what the attribution should look like?
# [23:13] <@gavin> a=gavin is fine
# [23:14] <@gavin> the Math.sin trick is the same, just involves breaking in that implementation instead
# [23:14] <@gavin> (probably less likely tobe called than dump())
# [23:15] <Waldo> gcp: actually I hear he prefers a=aflat
# [23:15] <jhammel> Waldo++
# [23:15] <Waldo> which does seem the natural way to say it
# [23:15] <jaws> bkero: i'm now getting merge issues. it looks like there are two heads for the repository now
# [23:15] <jaws> some of the old history got pulled back in
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# [23:18] <gcp> Waldo: I considered a=g#
# [23:18] <Jesse_> tn: thanks, that worked
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# [23:18] <jaws> bkero: the push worked now
# [23:18] <jaws> thanks
# [23:18] <bkero> jaws: cool, closing out
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# [23:28] <dholbert> What's the recommended way to start a just-compiled debug build of firefox on Mac OS?
# [23:28] <@khuey> dolske: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/bacon-sausage-shortage_n_1909609.html
# [23:28] <dholbert> "./dist/bin/firefox -profile foo -no-remote" is what I use on linux, but that doesn't get focus for keypresses on mac
# [23:28] <Mossop> dholbert: dist/NightlyDebup.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -profile foo
# [23:29] <Mossop> Correct the obvious typo in there
# [23:29] <cpearce> smaug: pong
# [23:29] <Mossop> OSX requires cocoa apps to run out of app bundles to work properly :(
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# [23:30] <dholbert> Mossop, thanks!
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# [23:32] <@gavin> Asa: any chance you could track down a nightly regression range for bug 792303?
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# [23:32] <@smaug> cpearce: I think you answered to bug
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# [23:33] <cpearce> smaug: ok, thanks.
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# [23:34] <Callek> Mossop: obvious typo, you mean we don't want a Debup.app ?
# [23:34] <hub> Mossop, dholbert: you can also do "open dist/NightlyDebug --args -profile foo"
# [23:34] <@gavin> hrm, is try already not able to build aurora?
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# [23:35] <NeilAway> gcp: not a=g𝄪 ?
# [23:35] <Mossop> Callek: s/Debup/Debug/
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# [23:35] <Callek> Mossop: :-P (I was just teasing)
# [23:35] <hub> (I forgot .app, but you get it)
# [23:36] <cpearce> smaug, so to get r+ would you like me to set sSynthCenteringPoint before the dispatch?
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# [23:36] <@smaug> cpearce: well, is the dispatch async?
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# [23:37] <@smaug> cpearce: hmm
# [23:37] <cpearce> smaug: the OS's dispatch of its events appears to be to me.
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# [23:37] <@smaug> though, in any case having it before dispatching should be ok
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# [23:38] <cpearce> sure. I'll do that.
# [23:38] <gcp> oi, my push is red on inbound
# [23:39] <gcp> or the one before me is
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# [23:39] <jesup> dholbert: I ran into the exact same confusion a few days ago trying to debug a mac-only failure in DataChannels/SCTP
# [23:39] <jesup> Annoying that we build executables that aren't actually executable
# [23:40] <hub> jesup: bundles are the executable
# [23:40] <hub> jesup: on MacOS
# [23:40] <biesi> just upgrade to linux
# [23:40] <hub> or what biesi said :-D
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# [23:40] <jesup> hub: right. So why do we leave objdir/dist/bin/firefox there?
# [23:41] <jesup> hub: already done, long, long ago :-)
# [23:41] <hub> jesup: I don't know why it is left there. Maybe for dependence tracking
# [23:42] <jesup> I used to build mozilla on FreeBSD, ages ago
# [23:42] <myk> jdm: oof, i have a super-old version of fedora; will need to update
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# [23:43] <myk> jdm: (i tend to test on ubuntu, where it's working for me)
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# [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b01c3760fce6 - David Anderson - Use js_free on fresh slots instead of js_delete (bug 793385, r=billm).
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# [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1003f039c77 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 789887 - Avoid creating unnecessary AboutHomeRunnables. r=lucasr
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