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# Session Start: Thu Sep 27 00:00:00 2012
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# [00:00] <gkw> nthomas: jorendorff points out browser/config/mozconfigs/macosx64/debug
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# [00:01] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: red
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# [00:01] <dzbarsky> ehsan: thanks
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# [00:03] <mconnor> ehsan: we need that magic button!
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# [00:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8daf97f682b - Sean Stangl - Bug 794025 - Detect IC purging in JM generateNativeStub(). r=dvander
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# [00:10] <@ehsan> mconnor: yeah I know!
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# [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5d656109b8a - Ben Turner - Bug 784378 - 'Apps API - Clear Private Data'. r=jlebar.
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# [00:15] <@ehsan> bz_sleep: khuey: ping
# [00:16] <@ehsan> p *self
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# [00:17] <@khuey> ehsan: pong
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# [00:17] <@ehsan> khuey: can web idl getters return null?
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# [00:17] <@khuey> ehsan: if the type they return is nullable, yes
# [00:17] <@ehsan> hrm
# [00:18] <firebot> Check-in:
# [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a845f0d087aa - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 792541 - Block sprotector.dll on Windows 8 and up. Add support in the windows blocklist for flags and add a flag for "win8 and up only", r=ehsan a=akeybl
# [00:18] <@ehsan> khuey: how do I make the type nullable?
# [00:18] <@khuey> put a ? after it
# [00:18] <@khuey> e.g. 'Long?'
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# [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f0a5a9919ae - Steve Fink - Bug 794494 - Clear the right buffer link when pruning and reversing the list of ArrayBufferViews. r=billm
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# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7771d1d6f0d8 - Ben Turner - Bug 784378 - 'Apps API - Clear Private Data'. Add missing file. r=jlebar.
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# [00:29] <bent> sfink, i busted you
# [00:29] <philor> khuey: what should I make of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15566665&tree=Mozilla-Inbound?
# [00:29] <sfink> whee!
# [00:29] <bent> sfink, and then i should have fixed you
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# [00:30] <@ehsan> khuey: thanks!
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# [00:30] <philor> other than the obvious, do not under any circumstances use anything that makes use of indexedDB, that is
# [00:31] <sfink> good thing I didn't bother to check the tree before landing
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# [00:33] <philor> eh, possibly as many as two of the last six pushes won't burn, pretty good
# [00:33] <catlee> philor: how do we get new build types onto tbpl?
# [00:33] <@khuey> ehsan: np
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# [00:34] <philor> catlee: you write a patch for our hellish regex, r?=me, expressing the urgency of deploying by ____
# [00:34] <@khuey> philor: I, uh, don't know
# [00:34] <philor> or, the alternate approach, file a bug with the pretty name, since that's what we match
# [00:34] <@khuey> philor: 20 is SIGTSTP?
# [00:34] <@khuey> that's pretty nonsensical
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# [00:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c0e68dceca8 - David Dahl - Bug 758269 - Install permissions from manifest to Permission Manager r=fabrice
# [00:35] <philor> time for an oil change?
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# [00:35] <@khuey> philor: ah, SIGCHLD on OS X
# [00:35] <jhammel> SIG Stone Temple Pilots?
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# [00:35] <@khuey> that sort of makes sense
# [00:35] <@khuey> but I don't know why it causes us to crash ...
# [00:36] <@khuey> philor: seems like an IPC problem
# [00:36] <@khuey> philor: I would bug cjones ;-)
# [00:36] <philor> heh. good luck to me!
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# [00:38] <sriram> has anyone worked with "personas"?
# [00:38] <sriram> the lightweight theme
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# [00:40] <@dolske> sriram: yes, MattN, ttaubert, dao, and probably some others. :)
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# [00:41] <sriram> MattN: ttaubert .. i see it storing the header and footer image in user profile directory
# [00:41] <sriram> but its without any extension
# [00:41] <sriram> is it on purpose?
# [00:41] <sriram> and dao whenever you see this.. ^^ ;)
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# [00:45] <@bsmedberg> karl: does my comment in bug 788399 make sense? I don't *think* it would be very difficult to use async windowless drawing even in-process, although it might require some refactoring.
# [00:46] <karl> bsmedberg: just reading now; "And we're asking Adobe to support only windowless mode in new versions of FP" is probably the killer to the plan
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# [00:46] <karl> bsmedberg: i think it is feasible, to do async in process, but preferable would be to force oop
# [00:47] <@bsmedberg> karl: yeah well, I'm happy enough to do that except that it kills a11y :-(
# [00:47] <karl> bsmedberg: do you know whether NPDrawingModelAsyncWindowsSharedSurface is supported in-process?
# [00:47] <@bsmedberg> Adobe says they don't really care about their a11y support anyway
# [00:47] <@bsmedberg> karl: is it supported at all?
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# [00:47] * @bsmedberg thought that was still experimental
# [00:47] <karl> bsmedberg: do you know whether international text input issues are resolved for windowless plugins?
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# [00:47] <@bsmedberg> no, I don't know
# [00:48] <hub> davidb: ^^^^^^ (adobe a11y)
# [00:48] <karl> bsmedberg: i don't know much about NPDrawingModelAsyncWindowsSharedSurface; Bas might
# [00:48] <@bsmedberg> I know we added NPAPI stuff to make it better for Flash specifically
# [00:48] <davidb> Jaws cares… dunno about Adobe
# [00:48] <@bsmedberg> karl: yeah, I believe that's the new drawing model which we'd like to use, but we don't use it yet
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# [00:49] <davidb> anyways… we need to clean the web of flash IMO
# [00:49] <karl> if davidb has a moment, do you know the a11y situation with Flash and X11?
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# [00:49] <@bsmedberg> karl: nonexistent?
# [00:49] <davidb> tbsaunde: ^
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# [00:52] <karl> bsmedberg: i think the first two non-obsolete patches are still worth taking; i asked you for review on the async one because you were on the other patches, but i can ask roc if you prefer?
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# [00:53] <davidb> karl: adobe was planning iaccessible2 support on linux but i don't think it happened
# [00:53] <karl> thanks, davidb
# [00:53] <davidb> np
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# [00:54] <karl> bsmedberg: adobe are no longer developing flash for linux, so i doubt they'd move that to windowless only; we could still disable windowless there, but disabling in-process is the other option
# [00:55] <karl> bsmedberg: there were two goals: avoiding a crash with windowless in-process flash, and removing code so it doesn't need to be ported for gtk3
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# [00:56] <karl> bsmedberg: with gtk3, flash will have to be oop anyway, because it uses gtk2
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# [00:57] <karl> symbol name conflict
# [00:57] <karl> s
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# [00:58] <Bas> karl: I do :)
# [00:58] <@bsmedberg> karl: so I don't really have strong opinions about Linux
# [00:59] <@bsmedberg> although do we force java in-process on Linux now?
# [00:59] * @bsmedberg can't remember whether that was windows-only
# [00:59] <philor> ehsan: aurora may plan on giving you a reftest failure next
# [00:59] <@ehsan> oh
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# [01:00] <karl> bsmedberg: we do force java in-process; that is windowed only, so doesn't get in the way of plans
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# [01:01] <karl> bsmedberg: i've used iced-tea out of process; seems to work but don't use it much and haven't tested oracle's
# [01:01] <@ehsan> philor: pretty sure that's not my patch, retriggered
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# [01:01] <jcranmer> just want to double-check:
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# [01:02] <jcranmer> nsCString::Append should fail if we don't pass in any explicit fallible indicator, correct?
# [01:02] <karl> Bas: i was curious whether NPDrawingModelAsyncWindowsSharedSurface would work in-process and whether any plugins are expected to use the model soon
# [01:02] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: "fail" meaning "crash"?
# [01:02] <karl> Bas: kinda thinking that if Adobe drop windowed support they'll want some way to draw fast
# [01:02] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: er, yes
# [01:02] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: yes
# [01:03] <nthomas> rstrong: perhaps I misunderstood what you meant in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398366#c44
# [01:03] <jdm> NeilZZZ: ping?
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# [01:03] <MattN> sriram: I think one reason was because there are multiple valid extensions and didn't want to have to manage multiple files of each type
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# [01:04] <rstrong> nthomas: I was just curious if the entries are one time automatically entered and hence hardcoded vs. the entries being dynamically generated
# [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b88bc53d09a2 - Terrence Cole - Bug 793823 - Exactly root Bindings when on the stack; r=billm
# [01:05] <rstrong> Also, it looked to me that the dev env. doesn't have the same env as the production which would need to be replicated
# [01:05] <nthomas> on download.m.o they're one time manually entered
# [01:06] <nthomas> the products like firefox-15.0 are automatically created by the release automation
# [01:06] <rstrong> ok... cool
# [01:06] <nthomas> well, one-time is a bit misleading. the current work around will need updating when 16.0 comes along
# [01:06] <nthomas> yeah, dev seems to be missing product details or something
# [01:06] <rstrong> the hardcoded statement threw me off a bit because they are no different than any other entry. The difference is automated vs. manual
# [01:06] <nthomas> ok
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# [01:11] <jdm> anybody know if I can create an nsDepedentSubstring by hand?
# [01:11] <jhammel> very tiny magnets and a hard disk?
# [01:12] <biesi> jdm, what do you mean?
# [01:12] <bent> jdm, sure, you just need a PRUnichar* and length
# [01:12] <jdm> also, does nsDependentCSubstring exist?
# [01:12] <biesi> yes
# [01:13] <jdm> good, good
# [01:13] <@ehsan> dholbert: ping
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# [01:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/298ef4e74849 - Eric Faust - Bug 792166 - Fix incorrect handling of |delete| in common accessor checking. (r=djvj)
# [01:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19da37cf65ae - Eric Faust - Bug 793284 - Use non-freezing checks in TestCommonPropFunc() to avoid bogus invalidations. (r=djvj)
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# [01:20] <Bas> karl: It should work in process, and yes, I believe Adobe will support it, although adobe's flash team seems to be confused at the moment.
# [01:20] <karl> ok, thanks
# [01:21] <@bsmedberg> myk: ping
# [01:21] <dholbert> ehsan, pong
# [01:21] <@ehsan> dholbert: can you please take a look at the last comment of bug 775350?
# [01:23] <myk> bsmedberg: pong
# [01:23] <dholbert> ehsan, looking
# [01:23] <@bsmedberg> myk: in that crash, can you give me the parameters being passed to PRMJ_FormatTime ?
# [01:23] <@bsmedberg> myk: in particular "fmt" and *prtm
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# [01:25] <myk> bsmedberg: i'm currently rebuilding with jemalloc disabled in a mostly arbitrary attempt to see if it makes a difference; i'll get back to my previous state and check that, but it may take a bit (my windows machine is a laptop that takes some time to build)
# [01:26] <dholbert> ehsan, what does the backout change?
# [01:26] <@bsmedberg> myk: it will not make a difference ;-) This is a CRT abort, probably because the year being passed to "strftime" is not between 1900 and 1999
# [01:26] <@bsmedberg> myk: ok well, paste in the bug when you get a chance
# [01:26] <@ehsan> dholbert: it takes us to the behavior previous to the optimization in bug 157681
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# [01:26] <myk> bsmedberg: will do!
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# [01:26] <@ehsan> dholbert: i.e., reflow when a positional css property changes
# [01:27] <myk> bsmedberg: i'm also happy to turn my machine over to you if it'd help, given your temporary proximity!
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# [01:27] <@bsmedberg> heh
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# [01:28] <@bsmedberg> philor: thank you for starring bits of my beta push, I just spent a long time trying to figure out the C3 push
# [01:29] <dholbert> ehsan, brb, discussing something with seth IRL simultaneously
# [01:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f8dc0d8eb25 - Chris Peterson - Bug 747629 - Part 3: Remove unnecessary InputMethodManager parameters. r=blassey
# [01:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d33341a7ec3 - Chris Peterson - Bug 747629 - Part 1: Post (most) Gecko's IME callbacks from Gecko thread to UI thread. r=blassey
# [01:29] <@ehsan> dholbert: ok np
# [01:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/153fc8564818 - Chris Peterson - Bug 747629 - Part 2: Assert IME code is running on UI thread. r=blassey
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# [01:30] <jhammel> anyone know what is up with the purple on Linux opt build these days?
# [01:31] <NeilAway> jdm: pong?
# [01:31] <jdm> NeilAway: nevermind, I have sorted out my xpcom string woes
# [01:31] <jhammel> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1844649
# [01:32] <NeilAway> jdm: yeah, it's a bit unusual, because most people only need Substring
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# [01:32] <dholbert> ehsan, and we've already done this backout on older branches and it didn't break stuff there?
# [01:32] <jhammel> ah, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793675
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# [01:33] <jhammel> wish TBPL knew about that
# [01:33] <@ehsan> dholbert: correct
# [01:33] <dholbert> ehsan, My guess is that this has to do with jwatt's display-lists-for-SVG changes, which IIRC are new in current aurora
# [01:33] <dholbert> probably an interaction with that code
# [01:34] <dholbert> ehsan, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614732
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# [01:35] <mounir> jduell, sicking: ping
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# [01:35] <dholbert> ehsan, If that's the case, I'd expect you should see the same reftest-failure if you backout on trunk, too
# [01:35] <jduell> mounir: pong
# [01:35] <@ehsan> hmm
# [01:35] <dholbert> ehsan (not that you're necessarily planning to land your backout on trunk -- just pointing that out, in case that makes testing / further-investigation easier)
# [01:36] <@ehsan> dholbert: right
# [01:36] <mounir> jduell: sicking told me you might need help with bug 777445
# [01:36] <mounir> jduell: could you tell me more?
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# [01:36] <@ehsan> dholbert: ok I'll put that info on the bug and wait for jwatt to wake up :)
# [01:36] <@ehsan> dholbert: thanks a lot!
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# [01:36] <dholbert> ehsan, ok. :)
# [01:36] <dholbert> good luck!
# [01:36] <@ehsan> thanks
# [01:37] <jduell> mounir: michal is working on it. We need to add NSPR I/O hooks so we can fire a notification about network activity. We ran into NSPR bug but now I think michal has a good handle on it.
# [01:37] <myk> bsmedberg: as it turns out, my build wasn't yet borked, and i just reproduced the crash and pasted those values into a bug comment
# [01:37] <mounir> jduell: he said something about an API
# [01:38] <mounir> jduell: if don't need any help, I'm not going to force you :)
# [01:38] <sicking> jduell, mounir: the thing i'd like to make sure that we have an API which is exposed to apps. And that that API fits in the B2G security model. I.e. that you get the appropriate checks into the permission manager, that the permission manager database is filled at app install (see ddahls patch).
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# [01:39] <sicking> jduell, mounir: A chrome-only API isn't good enough. Neither is an API exposed to all webpages
# [01:39] <jduell> mounir: yeah, the IDL I've got just describes how to ask necko for the notification, and the name of the nsIObserver notification. We need glue to make those web APIs
# [01:39] <mounir> sicking: sure, I understand that
# [01:39] <mounir> jduell: ok, I can have look at the glue
# [01:40] <mounir> sicking: I don't know where I would expose the API
# [01:40] <mounir> but I guess I will find something
# [01:40] <sicking> jduell, mounir: What I would suggest is that michal creates a necko API and then mounir hooks up an API exposed to the DOM
# [01:41] <mounir> window.navigator.mozNetwork.No.mozActivity.IamNotSure.Indicator ?
# [01:41] <jduell> sicking: mounir: the necko API is in the bug already. Ready to be hooked up to
# [01:41] <philor> bsmedberg: that used to be our third most-opaque one, but then we (mostly) stopped hitting "just stop after 1:01" and started calling that "just stop" so now it's second most-opaque :)
# [01:41] <sicking> jduell: awesome!
# [01:41] <sicking> mounir: can you post in the bug letting them know that you can take that part
# [01:41] <jduell> mounir: sicking: I believe the glue work is here? https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/issues/5222
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# [01:42] <sicking> jduell: i don't think that bug covers the DOM API. Just the UI work to use the DOM API
# [01:42] <jduell> ah ok.
# [01:42] <jduell> We have a lot of bugs for this bug :)
# [01:42] <mounir> sicking, jduell: this is just two events?
# [01:42] <sicking> mounir: it is whatever you want it to be
# [01:43] <mounir> i it's just a start/end event, that is going to be highly trivial
# [01:43] <mounir> i mean, for the DOM API ;)
# [01:43] <sicking> mounir: but two events doesn't sound good enough since you need to be able to know what the current state is.
# [01:43] <jduell> mounir: right now it's one event: blip.
# [01:43] <sicking> mounir: i.e. you don't want to sit around in an "unknown" state until the first event happens
# [01:43] <mounir> jduell: ok, mozBlipEvent :)
# [01:43] <jduell> We've talked about making it blip-upload and blip-download--dunno if michal will land it that way
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# [01:44] <mounir> sicking: if we have blip events, having a current state seems non-sense
# [01:44] <sicking> mounir: sure, that'd work
# [01:44] <jduell> it's not about state--it's about getting pinged (at whatever min interval you want) when net is active
# [01:44] <gcp> what are "PGO tests"?
# [01:44] <jduell> websockets, etc don't have a clearly definable 'state'
# [01:44] <mounir> ok
# [01:44] <sicking> jduell: as long as we don't end up firing the event so often that it's a perf issue when there's lots of traffic
# [01:45] <mounir> anyway, seems premature to write anything before seeing the actualy patch
# [01:45] <jduell> sicking: API lets you tell necko how often to send. jcarpenter seemed to think about twice a second
# [01:45] <mounir> hmm
# [01:45] <mounir> that seems unappropriate to have the content asking how often the event should come
# [01:45] <mounir> that would be a bad api IMO
# [01:46] <mounir> if exposed to the content
# [01:46] <jduell> mounir: we can make it a pref if it makes you happier
# [01:46] <mounir> that would make me happier, inded ;)
# [01:46] <jduell> that'd be fine--doesn't really need to be dynamic
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# [01:47] <jduell> mounir: oh, looks like we already decided to make it a pref: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777445#c49
# [01:47] <mounir> I haven't followed that discussion after comment 39
# [01:47] <mounir> but I will put a comment saying I will work on the DOM API
# [01:48] <mounir> ... and go to bed :)
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# [01:51] <sicking> jduell: it just seems tricky to me to send a blip which is sent often enough that the UI doesn't flicker, but isn't sent so often that it's a perf problem
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# [01:51] <sicking> jduell: but it might be doable
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# [01:53] <jduell> sicking: the idea IIUC is that the UI folks will arrange for the 'blip' to cause some millisecs worth of animation. Does that sound ok?
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# [01:53] <jduell> i.e we're not driving frames of animation per blip or anything like that
# [01:54] <sicking> jduell: Ok, that might work
# [01:54] <cjones> jduell, that sounds horrible
# [01:54] <cjones> how often will the blips arrive?
# [01:54] <jduell> cjones: jcarpenter seemed happy with around 2/sec
# [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cc0a9e9c7370 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 751795 - Part 4: Add flags to _run_make to control behavior; r=jhammel
# [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4a3292507308 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 751795 - Part 5: mach can now build the tree, record compiler warnings; r=jhammel
# [01:55] <cjones> ok
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# [01:56] <RyanVM> ddahl: orange
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# [01:57] <ddahl> RyanVM: link?
# [01:57] <RyanVM> your tbpl push?
# [01:57] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15570434&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [01:59] <RyanVM> ddahl: i've got a backout ready to push
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# [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccdb0107dd61 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 759133 - turn focus logging macros into standard a11y logging, r=tbsaunde
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# [02:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2afb3c28c6e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 5c0e68dceca8 (bug 758269) due to mochitest-other orange.
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# [02:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2644a3626ec - Hubert Figuière - Bug 773892 - Part 3: only rely on the event to send the crash report. r=fabrice
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# [02:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5caee20d2dc6 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 789466 - Report crashes with prerelease.dogfood.id if available. r=fabrice
# [02:12] <gps> |./mach build| now records compiler warnings. |./mach warnings-list| and |./mach warnings-summary| list them. enjoy!
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# [02:14] <@bsmedberg> are mozconfigs gone yet? ;-)
# [02:14] <gps> bsmedberg: no, I have not killed mozconfigs... yet
# [02:15] <jcranmer> gps: great, can you enable the --enable-as-warnings by default for specific compiler versions then? :-)
# [02:15] <gps> but mach should be a sufficient replacement for client.mk for 95% of people
# [02:15] <@bsmedberg> woot
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# [02:15] <gps> I care more about killing client.mk than mozconfigs
# [02:15] <jhammel> what about configure.in ? :P
# [02:15] <gps> jcranmer: that would be configure's job
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# [02:16] <jcranmer> so what is it instead of client.mk configure?
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# [02:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0b6fd624e847 - Sean Stangl - Bug 794025 - Detect IC purging in JM generateNativeStub(). r=dvander a=akeybl
# [02:17] <gps> well, mach currently wraps client.mk. a follow-up will change that
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# [02:17] <gps> if you are on Windows, mach is smart enough to use pymake by default!
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# [02:17] <jcranmer> h
# [02:17] <jcranmer> I never liked trying to figure out how to run pymake
# [02:18] <ddahl> anyone know about the build machines and where the tests live? see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758269#c147
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# [02:22] <RyanVM> ddahl: the log shoudl show you where the files are being extracted to
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# [02:23] <ddahl> RyanVM: thx
# [02:23] <jwir3> is there any way to get the web console to show multiple output statements from the same line, instead of just telling me how many there were?
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# [02:31] <sicking> fabrice: for the install/update API, are you calling into the appcache code from the child process (like the marketplace process or the settings app process), or from the parent process?
# [02:32] <fabrice> sicking: from the parent
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# [02:32] <sicking> fabrice: yay!
# [02:32] <fabrice> but currently I'm passing a null window :(
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# [02:34] <philor> I've heard that's painful
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# [02:49] <Callek> philor: hows sheriff pain today for stuff that is on my plate after your verify.py RETRY thing deployed?
# [02:49] <gps> I don't suppose I could get a channel admin to change the topic to mention mach? http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2012/09/26/mach-has-landed
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# [02:50] <philor> Callek: ask RyanVM whether he's gotten to be first at starring any of the very limited amount of stuff we've got star now :)
# [02:50] <RyanVM> yeah, things are definitely better
# [02:50] <Callek> YAY
# [02:50] <philor> I've got 5 trees open, and I'm still having to do real work to keep from getting bored
# [02:50] <RyanVM> Callek: I starred a couple 500 internal server errors as a;r
# [02:51] <RyanVM> probably should RETRY on those
# [02:51] <Callek> RyanVM: I thought we already retried on 500 ISE's
# [02:51] <philor> we do on most, there's a reason we don't on ftp, but I forget what
# [02:51] <Callek> or maybe thats just hg ISE's
# [02:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1dec9463a62 - Jared Wein - Bug 794512 - Add a checkbox and preference to disable toast notifications for the Social API. r=markh
# [02:51] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15570624&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [02:51] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15570615&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [02:51] <philor> probably because we mostly get them when we're hammering it, and fixing hammering by hammering harder might not be productive
# [02:52] <@bsmedberg> moar hammertime!
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# [02:53] <RyanVM> i will say that log parsing is dramatically faster for me now
# [02:53] <Callek> yea, perhaps we could have a backoff and do retry.py there for wget in that step, rather than set a RETRY for the whole job
# [02:53] <RyanVM> edmorley++
# [02:53] <Callek> either way, "good to hear" that sheriff side is better
# [02:53] <philor> damn, I got beaten while distracted by IRC :(
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# [02:56] <RyanVM> Callek: yes, definitely better. thanks!
# [02:56] <Callek> RyanVM: in this most recent case, I only get credit for staging it and agreeing with the plan + reviews
# [02:56] <Callek> philor did the retry magic for verify.py
# [02:57] <RyanVM> philor++
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# [02:58] <philor> edmorley did several sorts of logging magic that have kept me from opening more than maybe a dozen Android logs today, though
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# [03:00] <RyanVM> yeah, it'll be nice when it's able to start matching some of those errors to bug titles
# [03:00] <RyanVM> but it's still nicer than it was
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# [03:05] <Jesse> khuey: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6580
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# [03:09] <@bsmedberg> Did you know that you can crash Firefox on windows by calling Date().toLocaleFormat('%R') ?
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# [03:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2649ac9b652f - Fabrice Desré - Bug 790870 - Implement install/update API during installation of hosted apps - Part 1 : IDL changes [sr=sicking]
# [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54fcc1121824 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 790870 - Implement install/update API during installation of hosted apps - Part 2 : hosted apps implementation [r=gwagner]
# [03:13] <sicking> fabrice: woot!
# [03:13] <fabrice> sicking: yay, first one!
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# [03:13] <sicking> fabrice: I meant to ask. Since you duped the update bug against that bug, does that mean that that patch updates the update parts of the API too?
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# [03:14] <sicking> fabrice: if so, that's the first two :)
# [03:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddf584176a04 - Terrence Cole - Bug 794700 - Remove a test exercising dead code; r=billm
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# [03:15] <fabrice> sicking: indeed, but we don't do much on hosted apps updates
# [03:16] <sicking> fabrice: makes sense. Hopefully we can hook up the new APIs from the appcache once those land. But yeah, still won't be a lot to do other than call into the appcache
# [03:17] <fabrice> exactly
# [03:18] <bonnie> mrbkap, ping
# [03:18] <Jesse> akeybl: is there a version of https://mail.mozilla.com/home/akeybl@mozilla.com/Release%20Management.html that's just merge days / release days?
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# [03:18] <bonnie> mrbkap, patch uploaded for review, just letting you know. thats all. :)
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# [03:31] <heycam> if I want to skip a mochitest on a particular platform, do I do that in the Makefile.in, or checking something in the test itself, or something else?
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# [03:38] <RyanVM> ddahl: please run your patch through Try before re-landing
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# [03:52] <Callek> RyanVM, philor|afk: FYI, we landed NoIon tegra build/test turning on again -- should go live at some point tomorrow
# [03:53] <Callek> so expect a slight incraese in tegra wait times [to ~ the Android XUL era]
# [03:53] <RyanVM> ok
# [03:53] <RyanVM> what's the status of b2g tests on tbpl?
# [03:54] <Callek> RyanVM: these are our "b2g tests" ;-)
# [03:54] <Callek> (for now)
# [03:54] <Callek> but testing Android Firefox
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# [03:54] <RyanVM> yes
# [03:55] <Callek> as far as "what is the status of testing what we are producing when we build B2G" I'm not quite sure
# [03:55] <RyanVM> how long until they're actually running on b2g?
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# [03:55] <Callek> I know we should be starting to build panda-device B2G builds soon [maybe even this week]
# [03:55] <Callek> as far as THOSE getting tested on pandas, I think its mostly up to ATeam atm
# [03:56] <Callek> and there is parallel work about getting Emulators installed so that we can run tests there
# [03:56] <Callek> I'm not really sure which one is further along.
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# [04:00] <Callek> what the helll.....
# [04:01] <Callek> RyanVM: have you EVER seen a job like this https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15573726&tree=Firefox&full=1#error0
# [04:01] <RyanVM> woah...
# [04:02] <cjones> RyanVM, there's an entirely parallel EC/2 universe where mochitests, reftests, device tests, (maybe xpcshell now?) tests run
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# [04:02] <RyanVM> is it just a more verbose version of the usual unable to connect...reconnecting messages?
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# [04:02] <RyanVM> cjones: just wondering when those'll appear on tbpl
# [04:02] <Callek> cjones: well my answers/experience re: b2g testing can be qualified as being "as far as releng handles" sure :-)
# [04:02] <cjones> me too :|
# [04:03] <Callek> RyanVM: this looks to have happened during the actual test
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# [04:03] <RyanVM> Callek: i've seen it during the test before, yes
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# [04:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4c99e254b831 - Gary Kwong - Bug 696305 - Update Valgrind cross architecture suppression file. DONTBUILD
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# [04:08] <Callek> RyanVM: filed at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794710
# [04:08] <Callek> incase you're curious
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# [04:16] <RyanVM> Callek: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15574565&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [04:17] <Callek> different issue than the one I just filed a bug on
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# [04:17] <RyanVM> yes
# [04:17] <RyanVM> not sure what to do with that, though
# [04:18] <RyanVM> not much to go off
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# [04:19] <ddahl> dougt: do you know what is the solution here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758269#c147
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# [04:20] <ddahl> dougt: the tests work perfectly on local machines, but fail in our build/test slave environment
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# [04:21] <dougt> ddahl: nope, but you can check out one of the slaves to run your tests on while you watch
# [04:21] <ddahl> dougt: oh?
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# [04:22] <dougt> #build maybe
# [04:22] <dougt> i think you file a ticket and carefully bother there build person oncall.
# [04:23] <ddahl> dougt: thanks
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# [04:30] <philor> RyanVM: just throw those in the "exception while running reftests" trash basket, nobody will ever notice them there
# [04:31] <RyanVM> works for me
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# [04:32] <philor> hmm, how did we get a needs-clobber looking failure in CrossCompartmentWrapper on both inbound and central without anything that should be the cause in the merge?
# [04:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/355e9f8b0c67 - Eric Chou - Bug 792002 - patch 1: HFP message handler, r=qdot
# [04:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d76eac692a19 - Eric Chou - Bug 792002 - patch 2: adjust volume after receiving AT+VGS, r=qdot, r=fabrice
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# [04:39] <RyanVM> was wondering the same thing
# [04:40] <@khuey> uninitialized variables are evil
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# [04:41] <@dbaron> Function.toSource() or something like that?
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# [04:42] <@gavin> yes
# [04:42] <@khuey> I thought they removed that
# [04:43] <@gavin> (new Function("code")).toSource()
# [04:43] <@gavin> it doesn't work in chrome anymore
# [04:43] <@khuey> and just do source compression now
# [04:43] <@gavin> but AFAIK it works in content just fine
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# [04:44] <@gavin> I guess it maybe works in chrome too, since for new Function the code isn't loaded from file
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# [06:05] <nthomas> anyone else with complete lack of rendering on todays Android build ?
# [06:08] <@dolske> that sure sounds like a problem
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# [06:09] <nthomas> a local one I bet
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# [06:21] <glob> NeilAway, thanks
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# [06:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f7a7e009aa9 - Edwin Flores - Bug 759506 - Build changes for B2G zero-copy OMX hardware decoding r=cjones
# [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3876b8007889 - Edwin Flores - Bug 759506 - GonkNativeWindow and layers changes for B2G zero-copy OMX hardware decoding r=kanru
# [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18becb73b906 - Chris Double - Bug 791912 - Fix crash when using libstagefright during video playback shutdown on B2G - r=cpearce
# [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69d3a8308851 - Edwin Flores - Bug 759506 - Add support for zero-copy OMX hardware decoding to B2G r=doublec
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# [06:46] <doublec> edwin++
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# [06:52] <cpearce> \0/
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# [07:03] <@dolske> yay, zero-copy vp8 deco...wait
# [07:03] <@dolske> ;)
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# [07:08] <cjones> we have one-copy vp8 decoding
# [07:08] <cjones> sorry
# [07:08] <cjones> Infinity more copies
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# [07:09] <doublec> we could enable video/webm for the omx backend and see what happens
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# [07:10] <cjones> there's hardware support on at least the tegra chip, but last i heard it wasn't exposed
# [07:11] <doublec> there's an Omx VP8 shared library but I'm not sure what that actually does
# [07:12] <cjones> might be the same codebase as ours
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# [07:14] <roc> we can still make our software decoder zero-copy
# [07:17] <jwatt> ehsan?
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# [07:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b839b6340fe - Eric Chou - Bug 792345 - patch 2: implement CallStateChanged, r=qdot
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# [07:44] <jesup> What's the equivalent to objdump for Windows? I have an unresolved sym in link that I swear is in the source (_jpeg_abort_decompress)
# [07:45] <mreavy> edwin, doublec: thank you so much for all your hard work on those bugs!
# [07:45] <doublec> mreavy: thanks, I'm glad it finally got landed!
# [07:46] <mreavy> doublec: me too! if i could, i'd take you and edwin out for a beer. :-)
# [07:46] <doublec> mreavy: maybe at the next work week :)
# [07:46] <edwin> mreavy: It's okay. We'll do with expensing our friday drinks as you =P
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# [07:53] <jesup> Never mind, I think I just figured it out. symbols.def.in, that hated construct. :-P jpeg is in gkmedia. Webrtc is in xul now, and this symbol has probably not been used in our source tree before.
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# [08:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00e193643aa9 - Karl Tomlinson - b=713802 link gio extension against libxul for tracemalloc stack functions r=bsmedberg
# [08:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e520ade90abf - Karl Tomlinson - b=713802 disable gnomevfs extension without --enable-gnomevfs r=glandium
# [08:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/157f3efdee37 - Karl Tomlinson - b=713802 default enable GIO support and disable GnomeVFS r=glandium
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# [09:13] <gps> jesup: the answer to your question is "dumpbin" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177429
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# [09:41] <NeilAway> glob: btw this is in reference to the fact that the "changes to attachment N submitted" page changes its title to something useless
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# [09:48] <NeilAway> it does seem to think I live in something called GMT Daylight Time though
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# [09:57] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, not |new Date()| but |Date()|, I think
# [09:57] <bkero> Hi there. Firefox is currently continually consuming 145% cpu. Any way for me to track down what's doing that?
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# [09:58] <capella> 145?
# [09:58] <ttaubert> multicore
# [09:58] <capella> still .... %
# [09:58] <Ms2ger> That's just 1.45, mathematically :)
# [09:59] <capella> ok - i suppose its how you define the meaning of the word cpu
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# [09:59] <ttaubert> bkero: which version are you running?
# [09:59] <capella> as in 145% of a signle cpu and I have two
# [10:00] <capella> nits
# [10:00] <bkero> ttaubert: 15.0.1 on ubuntu 12.04
# [10:00] <bkero> Turns out this time it was plugin-container containing guess what :)
# [10:01] <bkero> Although I've had it happen with no plugin-container loaded :(
# [10:03] <ttaubert> bkero: starting with 16 we have a built-in profiler. you can install an add-on and it should be easy to see what Firefox is doing
# [10:03] <ttaubert> we can't do anything about the plugin-container though
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# [10:04] <bkero> Yeah
# [10:04] <bkero> I can do things about the plugin-container
# [10:04] <ttaubert> right
# [10:04] <ttaubert> :)
# [10:04] <bkero> although I seem to be refusing to do the smart thing, which would be to simply uninstall it. Alas moco doesn't allow me to do that. :
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# [10:05] <bkero> :(
# [10:05] <bkero> vidyo
# [10:05] <ttaubert> bkero: how about click-to-play? not sure when that hits release, though
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# [10:07] <bkero> ttaubert: I've been doing that with flashblock and noscript for a long time. However, that profile is... 818M 282fo0qy.default
# [10:07] <bkero> That profile is kinda bloaty
# [10:08] <bkero> 667MB cache
# [10:08] <ttaubert> bkero: what's the problem with that? :) flashblock or click-to-play should work nonetheless
# [10:08] <bkero> 66mb urlclassifier3.sqlite, 31mb places.sqlite
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# [10:08] <bkero> The profile takes quite a long time to start up
# [10:09] <ttaubert> hm
# [10:09] <ttaubert> you should think about resetting your profile
# [10:09] <ttaubert> not sure if that's an option for you
# [10:09] <bkero> I'm sure I should
# [10:11] <hsivonen> documentation for GNU __null is hard to google for
# [10:11] <bkero> Try googling for Q, the qemu emulation frontend for OS X.
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# [10:12] <ttaubert> heh
# [10:14] <hsivonen> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=49533#c7
# [10:14] <hsivonen> It was news to me that Chromium required copyright assignment
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# [10:17] <hsivonen> what’s the type of __null in GCC 4.5?
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# [10:27] <Fallen> If so, please cc philipp@bugzilla.kewis.ch, jorge accidentally cc'd mozilla@kewis.ch
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# [10:40] <jaws> NeilAway: i never did find an answer :-/
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# [10:46] <NeilAway> jaws: if I remember I'll let you know
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# [10:48] <Cork> could anyone point me to where the svg parser is located?
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# [10:48] <heycam> hi Cork
# [10:49] <heycam> I guess you want to fix the path arc command parsing?
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# [10:49] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ah, that just throws an error in Firefox 4, this is a trunk bug I take it?
# [10:49] <Cork> heycam: well, rather i found that it might be contained enough, and not important enough that i could try to take a stab at it
# [10:49] <heycam> :)
# [10:49] <Cork> just for fun
# [10:49] <heycam> let me find the file
# [10:50] <heycam> Cork, take a look at content/svg/content/src/nsSVGPathDataParser.cpp
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# [10:51] <Cork> perfect
# [10:51] <Cork> thx
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# [10:53] <heycam> Cork, also, feel free to assign the bug to yourself, and if you need any help with the code, asking in #svg is your best bet
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# [10:55] <edmorley> philor: bah sorry dupe
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# [10:55] <Cork> heycam: i'm at work right now, and would like to look at it for a little bit so i feel i might actually be able to do it first
# [10:55] <philor> edmorley: hah, I duped mine first, now you have to patch it!
# [10:55] <edmorley> ha
# [10:55] <Cork> heycam: but ya, thats the plan
# [10:56] <heycam> Cork, cool. anyway I would suggest mentioning in the bug at least that you're going to take a look at it, otherwise someone else might start on it while you are. :)
# [10:56] <philor> also, omg quarter to two, where was my midnight "bonjour" warning?
# [10:57] <Cork> heycam: if they are, its fine :)
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# [10:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f80cc2f44c27 - Gina Yeh - Bug 793950 - v2: Handle volume change in BluetoothHfpManager, r=qdot
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# [11:02] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, dunno, I don't do windows
# [11:02] <Ms2ger> philor|away, glazou has a cold
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# [11:03] <KWierso|Home> bonjour
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# [11:03] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, Date.toLocaleFormat(...) just says an undefined property reference is not a function
# [11:03] <Ms2ger> KWierso|Home, aren't you in Ohio or so, and isn't it even later there?
# [11:04] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, Date().to...
# [11:04] <KWierso|Home> Ms2ger: nope, California
# [11:04] <Ms2ger> Note the ()
# [11:04] <KWierso|Home> used to be Iowa
# [11:04] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: sorry, I typoed rather than copypasting
# [11:04] <Ms2ger> Iowa, Ohio, some thing
# [11:04] <KWierso|Home> pretty much
# [11:04] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: I did actually type Date() into jsshell
# [11:04] <Standard8> Hi edmorley, are you likely to do a merge to m-c in a bit? If so, could you ping me when it lands?
# [11:04] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: only new Date() has a .toLocaleformat
# [11:05] <Ms2ger> Oh
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# [11:06] <edmorley> Standard8: yeah, just finishing up some patches and then will start starring and likely merge from 880c0c02dcc0 if all good
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# [13:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/385dbb23bb34 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 794475 - Inline "new String(x)". r=dvander
# [13:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/978385fba015 - Tom Schuster - Bug 789111 - Add inline path for LIntToString. r=jandem
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# [13:07] <edmorley> Standard8: merged
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# [13:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/385bc6d03597 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 779809 part 1 - Make [notxpcom] attributes an error; r=khuey
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# [13:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cbe950173a8 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 779809 part 2 - Don't safe-forward [notxpcom] methods; r=khuey,bz
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# [13:31] <gcp> sewardj: pong
# [13:31] <gcp> sewardj: trying with gnu ld now
# [13:32] <sewardj> gcp: gnu ld?
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# [13:32] <sewardj> I think that is unrelated
# [13:33] <gcp> sewardj: ok. I did use that valgrind flag (as I said, I followed the guide)
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# [13:35] <sewardj> gcp: well, your gcc doesn't seem to believe you have an a.out.h
# [13:35] <gcp> sewardj: hurr, disregard a.out.h thing, debian has a problem there it seems
# [13:36] <gcp> its supposed to be in libc6-dev, but the file is missing
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# [13:40] <gcp> sewardj: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676029
# [13:40] <gcp> sewardj: basically: no debian doesn't have it, and it's supposed to be fixed in valgrind :-/
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# [13:48] <@smaug> what is https://testpilot.mozillalabs.com/testcases/index.json
# [13:48] <@smaug> and why do we have XHR alive in browser pointing to that url
# [13:49] <Unfocused> its not the browser, its the test pilot extension
# [13:49] <@smaug> ahaa
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# [14:24] <NeilAway> oh wait, the site changed its coding
# [14:25] <NeilAway> it's now using replaceState, except for anchor scrolls :s
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# [14:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d293910d01e - Gina Yeh - Bug 794005 - v2: Broadcast dialer-related system message, r=qdot
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# [14:56] <glandium> Bas: ping
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# [15:08] <@roc> edmorley: ping?
# [15:08] <edmorley> roc: hi :-)
# [15:09] <@roc> we've got this thing you might have heard of
# [15:09] <@roc> it's called DLBI
# [15:09] <edmorley> yup
# [15:09] <edmorley> relanding?
# [15:09] <@roc> well
# [15:09] <@roc> we fixed all the issues we found from the last try push ... we think
# [15:09] <@roc> new try push is running: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8cafc4cc5774
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# [15:09] <@roc> but
# [15:09] <@roc> it'll take at least 12 hours
# [15:10] <@roc> I guess
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# [15:10] <@roc> DLBI really has to land for B2G
# [15:10] <edmorley> roc: only the winxp jobs are really backed up (http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/pending.html), the other platforms should only take a few hours; ok to wait until non-xp done?
# [15:11] <@roc> I suppose
# [15:11] <@roc> inbound is quiet right now
# [15:11] <@roc> in a few hours it might not be so quiet
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# [15:11] <@roc> also, in a few hours mattwoodrow and I will be sound asleep
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# [15:11] <@roc> since it's 1am here :-)
# [15:12] <edmorley> ah ok fair enough
# [15:12] * edmorley looks in bug to see when the last try run was
# [15:13] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e052f1c49887
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# [15:13] <mattwoodrow> probably not in the bug
# [15:13] <@roc> I guess a few options are a) wait till tomorrow NZT and try to land it then (risk of inbound chaos, less time to back out/fix things before the weekend)
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# [15:14] <@roc> b) land it now (risk of burning inbound unnecessarily)
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# [15:14] <gcp> dcamp: ping
# [15:14] <dcamp> gcp: hola
# [15:15] <@roc> c) wait for non-XP try builds and have someone else land it then (or stay awake and land it) (risk of inbound chaos, confusion, or drug overdose)
# [15:15] <gcp> dcamp: you got patches
# [15:15] <edmorley> roc: perhaps go with (b) then
# [15:15] <edmorley> and we can cancel the try job to save resources
# [15:15] <dcamp> gcp: oh, ok - sorry, at a work week and have fallen behind in mail
# [15:15] <dcamp> gcp: will tomorrow be ok?
# [15:15] <@roc> I guess we're pretty sure inbound won't burn, just test failures
# [15:15] <gcp> dcamp: sure
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# [15:15] <dcamp> gcp: ok, will do that
# [15:15] <gcp> dcamp: they need to go on m-a too, and they're not that small, so just nudging you in time
# [15:16] <dcamp> gcp: sure, nudge often
# [15:16] <@roc> mattwoodrow: did you hear that? edmorley officially gave us permission to land!
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# [15:16] <@roc> do it now before he changes his mind
# [15:16] <gcp> dcamp: oh, and the code with "Yuck. Sucks. XXX. Bah" has a memory leak
# [15:16] <gcp> dcamp: didn't see that coming :P
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# [15:16] <dcamp> heh
# [15:16] <gcp> dcamp: I'll try to fix that one properly, too.
# [15:17] <edmorley> roc: lol
# [15:17] <gcp> dcamp: but it's less urgent. the others are needed to enable safebrowsing on fennec.
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# [15:17] <gcp> dcamp: if I land that, we'll be the first browser with it
# [15:17] <dcamp> sure that'd be great
# [15:17] <dcamp> Should have plenty of time tomorrow (uk-time)
# [15:17] <@roc> edmorley: there is one expected regression, a perf regression in Android tck. I can't remember if there's anything else, if there is Matt can mention it in the bug
# [15:18] <edmorley> ok, thank you
# [15:18] <Bas> glandium: pong
# [15:18] <mattwoodrow> that's all I'm aware of
# [15:18] <edmorley> !seen gene
# [15:18] <firebot> gene was last seen 8 days, 14 hours, 8 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying 'not mid-push' in #identity.
# [15:18] <@roc> mattwoodrow: OK, I'm really leaving the office now, I'll check in when I get home but hopefully there won't be anything else for me to do :-)
# [15:19] <@roc> thanks a ton
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# [15:19] <mattwoodrow> thank you!
# [15:19] <mattwoodrow> hopefully this goes well
# [15:19] <glandium> Bas: have you looked at sid's comments about your pymake build error?
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# [15:22] <zzzzz> mattwoodrow: is that the final of DBLI ?
# [15:22] <mattwoodrow> zzzzz: I hope so!
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# [15:22] <zzzzz> \o/
# [15:23] <mattwoodrow> thanks edmorley, hope it doesn't cause too many issues
# [15:25] <Bas> glandium: Yeah, I have no hg diff, no patches pushed, nothing. Just vanilla m-c and I already clobbered.
# [15:25] <Bas> 2 different machines.
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# [15:25] <glandium> Bas: and you use in-tree pymake
# [15:25] <Bas> Yup
# [15:25] <Bas> I could try out of tree pymake I suppose.
# [15:25] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: np; me too :-)
# [15:25] <glandium> Bas: weird; did you try the patch?
# [15:26] <Bas> glandium: I was about to.
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# [15:28] <edmorley> *** if anyone has any unwanted (/already busted or re-pushed) Try runs, please can they use the cancel-all button in TBPL to help with the Try load (or ask me and I'll do it :-)) ***
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# [15:29] <edmorley> a quick glance already shows several runs on Try where people have repushed and not cancelled :-(
# [15:29] <edmorley> and people using -t all when they don't need it
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# [15:29] <Bas> glandium: Build with the patch is running now, I'll let you know what happens.
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# [15:32] <doublec> where is this "cancel all" button?
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# [15:33] <edmorley> doublec: there's an image linked from https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.platform/iengKcyD504/discussion
# [15:34] <doublec> oh nice, thanks!
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# [15:57] * jesup reads back - did DLBI land again? \o/
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# [15:57] <jesup> DBLI even
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# [15:58] <ttaubert> display based list invalidation? ;)
# [15:59] <jesup> I guess I was right the first time
# [15:59] <jesup> I've been waiting for this for quite a while...
# [15:59] <froydnj> AryehGregor: that linker error is just bizarre
# [16:00] <AryehGregor> Yes, that's what I thought.
# [16:00] <AryehGregor> I'm glad someone who knows more than I do agrees. :)
# [16:00] <@roc> edmorley, jesup, anyone: I think Matt might have forgotten something ... if test_transform_scrolling_repaints* goes UNEXPECTED-PASS on Linux, please mark it passing by changing todo to is. Also, if test_transformed_scrolling_repaints fails on Windows XP, please disable it there.
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# [16:01] <@roc> sorry
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# [16:01] <jesup> roc: thanks for the head-up
# [16:02] <AryehGregor> froydnj, do you have any ideas on how to debug, or where to file a bug? (I'm not sure if the bug is really in gcc or ld.)
# [16:02] <AryehGregor> (I'm *guessing* it's somehow in gcc.)
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# [16:02] <AryehGregor> (Maybe it's really an ld bug that's triggered by gcc, though, actually.)
# [16:03] * jesup pulls inbound and starts a build
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# [16:04] <Julian> hi there; any SVG people around? I believe I see a regression in FF 16 (beta)
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# [16:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24f4f77fba76 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 793408 - Remove some prtypes.h #includes from gfx; r=jrmuizel
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# [16:07] <froydnj> AryehGregor: so it builds with nsresult-as-plain-enum, but not nsresult-as-enum-class?
# [16:07] <AryehGregor> froydnj, yes.
# [16:07] <AryehGregor> This has been consistent over the last couple of months.
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# [16:10] <froydnj> my first guess would be to get a .o file compiled both ways and stare at |readelf -e| output
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# [16:11] <jesup> text-overflow even
# [16:12] <edmorley> jesup: inbound is closed, looking at it
# [16:12] <@ehsan> jesup: so that's a syntax error which I can just spot fix
# [16:12] <froydnj> I wonder if ld could dump a partially useful map file, too
# [16:12] <@ehsan> but there is also the leak on osx
# [16:12] <@ehsan> edmorley: (fwiw, I successfully pushed to inbound without the hook preventing me...)
# [16:12] <jesup> ehsan: I figured, thanks
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# [16:12] <@ehsan> edmorley: do you want me to fix the test manifest?
# [16:12] <AryehGregor> Hmm, yeah, an opt build works.
# [16:12] <edmorley> ehsan: yes please
# [16:13] <edmorley> ehsan: I think I just missed your push
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# [16:13] <froydnj> AryehGregor: opt + nsresult-enum-class works?
# [16:13] <AryehGregor> froydnj, seems so, yep.
# [16:14] <froydnj> but a debug build doesn't?
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# [16:14] <AryehGregor> Right.
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# [16:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e2633180110 - Ehsan Akhgari - Followup to bug 539356: fix the text-overflow reftest manifest
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# [16:15] <Bas> glandium sid0: Your patch worked Glandium. It built.
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# [16:16] <glandium> Bas: \o/
# [16:16] <Bas> glandium: At least I can work now! \0/
# [16:16] <AryehGregor> Hmm . . .
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> froydnj, I think I might have it.
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# [16:17] <AryehGregor> /* Define unscoped versions too: NS_OK = nsresult::NS_OK, etc. */
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> #define ERROR(key, val) key = nsresult::key
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> static const nsresult
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> #include "nsErrorList.h"
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> ;
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> Might those by any change end up in the symbol table?
# [16:17] <AryehGregor> Separately, for every single compilation unit where nsError.h is included?
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# [16:18] <AryehGregor> Several hundred of them for maybe tens of thousands of compilation units?
# [16:18] <froydnj> AryehGregor: I could believe that, yes
# [16:18] <AryehGregor> Any way around that?
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# [16:19] <AryehGregor> s/any change/any chance/
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# [16:22] <mconnor> mounir: starting review now. stupid deadlines. ;)
# [16:22] <froydnj> AryehGregor: magic to convert nsErrorList.h to a bunch of #defines? =/
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# [16:23] <edmorley> ehsan: some red on your push btw
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# [16:25] <AryehGregor> Why should 424 extra symbols be a big deal?
# [16:25] <AryehGregor> Hmm -- I guess most headers only add things like functions, and I suppose gcc is smart enough to share those among compilation units, which it knows it can because of the one-definition rule.
# [16:25] <AryehGregor> Could I just make it non-static?
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# [16:26] <jcranmer> AryehGregor: you'd probably get multiple definition errors
# [16:26] <AryehGregor> Even if the value is the same every time?
# [16:26] <AryehGregor> Googling, this says it's okay in C++ although not in C: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6173872/why-is-multiple-definition-of-a-const-global-variable-allowed-in-c-and-not-in
# [16:26] * AryehGregor tries
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# [16:27] <jcranmer> according to my clang, no
# [16:27] <AryehGregor> Hmm.
# [16:27] <AryehGregor> g++ seems to be compiling things okay so far.
# [16:27] <jcranmer> althoguh I didn't try const
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# [16:28] <AryehGregor> Well, yeah, of course if it's not const it won't work.
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# [16:28] <edmorley> ehsan: ping
# [16:28] <glandium> AryehGregor: you won't know until you actually link things together
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# [16:28] <AryehGregor> Oh, true.
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# [16:28] <glandium> AryehGregor: or you can check how the symbols are defined
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# [16:29] <jcranmer> preprending const gets rid of multiple redefinition error
# [16:29] <jwir3> is it my connection, or is mxr becoming somewhat sloooooow
# [16:29] <AryehGregor> There's no reason it should be an error, logically. It's going to be the same everywhere regardless.
# [16:29] <glandium> jcranmer: note there's actually a gcc option that can turn the multiple redefinition error on
# [16:29] <AryehGregor> According to that Stack Overflow post, the C++ standard says "static" has no effect in this case, basically.
# [16:30] <jcranmer> @_ZL1a = internal constant i32 5, align 4
# [16:30] <NeilAway> would an anonymous namespace help?
# [16:31] <jcranmer> we'd still generate symbol table entries, though...
# [16:31] <froydnj> anonymous namespaces would have the same problem as static, I think
# [16:31] <jcranmer> Similar to private, but the value shows as a local symbol (STB_LOCAL in the case of ELF) in the object file. This corresponds to the notion of the 'static' keyword in C.
# [16:31] <jcranmer> [even in the const case]
# [16:31] <NeilAway> shouldn't the symbols be different in each anonymous namespace?
# [16:31] <AryehGregor> That's the problem, yeah.
# [16:31] <AryehGregor> What about making it extern?
# [16:32] <AryehGregor> That would mean the compiler doesn't know the value, I guess, which is stupid.
# [16:32] <froydnj> yeah, that wouldn't be so great
# [16:32] <jcranmer> what you really want is linkonce_odr
# [16:33] <mounir> mconnor: sorry about that
# [16:33] <NeilAway> how about an enum?
# [16:33] <@ehsan> edmorley: crap, I'll backout
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# [16:34] <froydnj> jcranmer: linkonce_odr is a llvm-objfile thing?
# [16:34] <jcranmer> froydnj: I'm using LLVM's linkage terminology
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# [16:34] <NeilAway> oh, wrong type, sorry
# [16:35] <jcranmer> (it's linkonce, but the compiler ensures that odr happens, so it can optimize it unlike plain linkonce)
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# [16:35] <jcranmer> the problem is I don't think you can make variables get linkonce_odr
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# [16:36] <glandium> so, global const is not going to barf, but they also end up *not* consolidated (that is, you still have multiple copies)
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# [16:40] <AryehGregor> Yes, that makes sense.
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# [16:41] <AryehGregor> And yep, same link error.
# [16:41] <AryehGregor> I'd argue it's a gcc bug that it doesn't consolidate them.
# [16:41] <jcranmer> it's probably a language "feature"
# [16:41] <froydnj> actually a linker error, I'd think
# [16:41] <AryehGregor> If they're const but not static, defining them to have different values in different compilation units *will* give a link error, right?
# [16:41] <AryehGregor> Or won't it?
# [16:42] <AryehGregor> Hmm, maybe it won't. Then I guess gcc can't do anything better.
# [16:42] <froydnj> not with ld, I think
# [16:42] <froydnj> gold has bits to detect odr violations
# [16:42] <AryehGregor> Oh, of course, the compiler will have already substituted the values and the linker won't notice.
# [16:42] <AryehGregor> Feh.
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# [16:43] <froydnj> the compiler gets rid of the extra, unused constant definitions, though
# [16:43] <froydnj> hm, maybe not at -O0
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# [16:43] <AryehGregor> Even if it didn't, why is 424 more symbols per compilation unit such a big deal?
# [16:43] <AryehGregor> The symbol table has all the locals and things, right?
# [16:44] <AryehGregor> So it should have way more than 424 symbols per file already, given the average compilation unit size.
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# [16:44] <jcranmer> we have a few thousand compilation units
# [16:44] <froydnj> well, 424 symbols * N bytes * 1k+ files
# [16:44] <AryehGregor> . . . why does it need to bother storing the values of constants anyway, come to think of it? When is it going to be needed in the debugger?
# [16:44] <jcranmer> AryehGregor: p NS_OK ?
# [16:44] <AryehGregor> Hmm, right.
# [16:45] <jcranmer> people expect that kind of thing to work
# [16:45] <AryehGregor> froydnj, that should be megabytes. A few extra megabytes shouldn't make the linker run out of memory.
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# [16:45] <AryehGregor> Especially since it's still possible to link regular Firefox on stock 32-bit, right? And I'm on PAE, which should mean twice the address space.
# [16:46] <froydnj> AryehGregor: have you looked at memory usage in top while linking?
# [16:46] <AryehGregor> froydnj, I did some time ago.
# [16:46] <AryehGregor> It went up to 3.something G before dying, IIRC.
# [16:46] <AryehGregor> Steadily increased over time.
# [16:46] <froydnj> granted, I don't think it gets above 1800M on my linux box
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# [16:47] <AryehGregor> In principle, this must be a memory increase of at least the 50% range.
# [16:47] <AryehGregor> Theoretically it should really be over 100%, if it uses less than 2G for a normal link.
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# [16:49] <mounir> mconnor: btw, you can ignore part 3 of those patches if you think jlebar's review is enough (it's mostly XPCOM boilerplate)
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# [16:49] <mounir> mconnor: and thanks again for those reviews :)
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# [16:50] <edmorley> ehsan: what do you think about the dlbi os x debug leak? could it just be due to use having bailed sooner than normal due to the busted reftest.list? I would imagine not; but I know roc was keen to get this landed so would like to avoid backing out only to find tip is now green
# [16:50] <edmorley> s/use/us/
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# [16:52] <glandium> AryehGregor: if you put them in a class, they won't be exported
# [16:52] <@ehsan> edmorley: yes I think that is the most likely reason behind the leaks, let's give it a few more minutes
# [16:52] <edmorley> ok :-)
# [16:52] <glandium> struct A { static const int a = 42 }; int foo() { return A::a; } doesn't yield a A::a symbol
# [16:53] <glandium> while static const int a = 42; int foo() { return a; } does
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# [16:53] <glandium> no .rodata in the former
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# [16:54] <froydnj> glandium: but we want to be able to say just |a|
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# [17:00] <jcranmer> froydnj: using?
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# [17:01] <jcranmer> which apparently doesn't work?
# [17:01] <froydnj> jcranmer: I should think that you could do that, but gcc has been rejecting my attempts
# [17:01] <jcranmer> a.cpp:6:10: error: using declaration can not refer to class member
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# [17:02] <froydnj> using should work with enum classes, too, imho
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# [17:02] <jcranmer> bz: 3.2 million years
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# [17:03] <@bz> jcranmer: lol
# [17:07] <bent> wow, today's windows nightly is suuuuper crashy
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# [17:13] <smontagu> :( pastebin.mozilla.org/1845890
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# [17:23] <mconnor> mounir: jduell: is it possible to start B2G in something like airplane mode?
# [17:23] <mconnor> (don't have a device yet)
# [17:24] <catlee> glandium: hey, what ended up landing on m-c for the linux binary compat issue?
# [17:24] <mounir> mconnor: you can use airplane mode, yes
# [17:24] <mounir> mconnor: have it started like that, I'm not sure
# [17:24] <mconnor> mounir: ok... so jduell's comment on part 3 is a concern
# [17:24] <mounir> on part 3 ?...
# [17:24] <mconnor> mounir: well, I'd assume "turn off in airplane mode -> turn on" should work
# [17:24] <mconnor> or people will be angry
# [17:25] <mconnor> mounir: of the cookie deletion stuff
# [17:25] <mconnor> mounir: concerns about first cookiemgr init
# [17:25] <mounir> oh
# [17:26] <mounir> I missed that comment for some reasons
# [17:26] <mounir> interesting
# [17:26] <mconnor> so, without digging, seems like there's a real possibility of "if I remove apps after starting in airplane mode, cookies are not deleted"
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# [17:27] <mconnor> (the world was so much easier when everything was sync i/o
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# [17:28] <crussell> bz: re: embed elements et al having a [[Call]], is this for some DOM 0 plugin stuff or what?
# [17:28] <mounir> mconnor: indeed :)
# [17:28] <mounir> mconnor: is there a notification sent when the cookie manager is actually loaded?
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# [17:30] <@ehsan> edmorley: I declare victory!
# [17:30] <edmorley> :-)
# [17:30] <mconnor> mounir: looks like cookie-db-read
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# [17:30] <@ehsan> edmorley: time to reopen?
# [17:31] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [17:31] <@ehsan> a linux browser chrome failure
# [17:31] <@ehsan> retriggered
# [17:31] <@ehsan> oh
# [17:32] <@ehsan> the same has happened on windows too
# [17:32] <edmorley> ehsan: the winxp mochitest crashes look worrying
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# [17:32] * @ehsan looks at the test
# [17:32] <@ehsan> edmorley: let me look at that too
# [17:34] <mounir> mconnor: I can listen to cookie-db-read before calling Remove
# [17:34] <glandium> glandium: what do you mean?
# [17:34] <glandium> win 4
# [17:34] <@ehsan> wow
# [17:34] <@ehsan> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/highlighter/test/browser_inspector_invalidate.js#30
# [17:34] <glandium> errrr catlee: what do you mean?
# [17:34] <@ehsan> yep, let's set a timeout and hope that magic happens
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# [17:35] <mconnor> mounir: mrgh, this is a bit of a rabbit hole
# [17:35] <edmorley> could someone CC me on bug 792814 (not sure what group it is in; presume infra or something)
# [17:36] <edmorley> well, non- core-security and friends at least
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# [17:36] <@ehsan> edmorley: yeah so the crash is definitely worrying
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# [17:37] <@ehsan> edmorley: and I can't think of what causes the browser-chrome failure
# [17:37] <catlee> glandium: didn't we end up patching m-c somewhere to bring the system requirements down a bit?
# [17:37] <@ehsan> and roc and mattwoodrow|away are not around
# [17:37] <@ehsan> so I'm not sure what we can do short of a backout :(
# [17:37] <glandium> catlee: we can build with 2.10 again, now, thanks to thunderbird builders
# [17:38] <edmorley> ehsan: I'll just have to back out
# [17:38] <@ehsan> ok
# [17:38] <@ehsan> edmorley: do you want me to handle that?
# [17:39] <edmorley> ehsan: s'ok I can do it :-)
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# [17:39] <@ehsan> edmorley: you should just revert to e4dd1fa6d222 I think
# [17:39] <edmorley> yup
# [17:39] <catlee> glandium: were there any code changes required? I'm asking because we're going to be moving aurora over to the new machines shortly
# [17:40] <catlee> glandium: and then aurora goes to beta in a week and a half
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# [17:42] <mounir> ehsan: something is still wrong in m-i?
# [17:44] <glandium> catlee: bug 793634 and bug 794285
# [17:44] <@ehsan> mounir: edmorley is backing out all of the things
# [17:44] <mounir> ok
# [17:44] <mounir> will have to use m-c :(
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# [17:44] <mounir> m-i semes green
# [17:45] <mounir> *seems
# [17:45] <froydnj> m-c: when burning inbound isn't good enough
# [17:45] <mounir> ehsan: but I guess I'm missing something
# [17:45] <@ehsan> mounir: looks closer
# [17:45] <@ehsan> *look
# [17:45] <mounir> froydnj: those patches went to try multiple times
# [17:46] <mounir> so unless something popep up in the mean time...
# [17:46] <@ehsan> mounir: there are crashes and test failures on the original dlbi landing
# [17:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/205fdb51a6e3 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 786301 - 2/3 - Remove localStorage data from an app when uninstalled. r=jlebar
# [17:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2310fb3518ee - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 786301 - 1/3 - Add RemoveAllForApp on nsDOMStorageDBWrapper and nsDOMStoragePersistentDB. r=honza
# [17:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/497e8e4a5e91 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 786301 - 3/3 - Test that localStorage is removed when an app is uninstalled. r=honza
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# [17:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3f86e3a3240 - Ed Morley - Revert mozilla-inbound to e4dd1fa6d222 for crashes and test failures on a CLOSED TREE
# [17:47] <edmorley> inbound open
# [17:47] <froydnj> mounir: I should have put a ;) at the end of that
# [17:48] <@bz> crussell: I assume yes
# [17:49] <@bz> crussell: some plugins are callable or something
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# [17:49] <@bz> crussell: It's worth testing what other UAs do here
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# [17:49] <@bz> crussell: and getting specs updated as needed....
# [17:50] <@bz> crussell: jst or bsmedberg might know more about that [[Call]] stuff.
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# [18:15] <mconnor> mounir: you're moving the mochitests, right?
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# [18:16] <mounir> biesi wants that
# [18:16] <mounir> so I will do that, yes
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# [18:16] <mconnor> ok
# [18:16] <mounir> and open a follow-up to hove xpcshell tests
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# [18:17] <edmorley> bholley: re bug 794420: thank you :-D
# [18:17] <bholley> edmorley: np - I'll let you know if I get stuck
# [18:17] <bholley> edmorley: were those numbers you put in the CSV locally-generated? or from the logs?
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# [18:17] <edmorley> bholley: from the logs
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# [18:18] <mconnor> mounir: also, you know this needs SR, right?
# [18:18] <bholley> edmorley: ah, there are timestamps?
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# [18:18] <mounir> mconnor: from a any super-reviewer, right?
# [18:19] <mconnor> yes
# [18:19] <mconnor> I can't also SR this, alas :)
# [18:19] <mounir> mconnor: I know :)
# [18:19] <mounir> i will ask sicking to do that I guess
# [18:19] <edmorley> bholley: yeah, "finished in NNNms"
# [18:19] <bholley> edmorley: nifty
# [18:19] <mconnor> maybe we should just make jduell a reviewer :)
# [18:19] <mounir> mconnor: sicking is very good at not looking at my patch and just put a + :)
# [18:20] <mconnor> mounir: don't tell me these things!
# [18:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac136b93a1a3 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 791521 - return early on resizing WebGLContext where the canvas is null - r=jgilbert
# [18:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d81919584ff - Benoit Jacob - Bug 791905 - reject WebGL canvas sizes greater than INT_MAX - r=jgilbert
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# [18:21] <mounir> mconnor: more seriously, he is in the same team, he knows the deadlines and will do that ASAP
# [18:21] <bhearsum> edmorley, philor (and anyone else): it's very very unlikely to happen, but if you seen any failures that talk about "datazilla" on test jobs, please ping me
# [18:21] <mconnor> mounir: yeah, I know
# [18:21] <mconnor> mounir: you know what r/sr means, right? :)
# [18:22] * mconnor isn't sure if that's still used
# [18:22] <Ms2ger> mconnor, nah, everybody can review if it's for b2g
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# [18:22] <mounir> mconnor: I'm a peer and a super-reviewer, I know what those things mean
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# [18:23] <mconnor> god, you're right
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# [18:23] <Ms2ger> You can call him a lot, but "god" isn't what I'd use :)
# [18:24] <mounir> Ms2ger++
# [18:24] <mconnor> mounir: all done
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# [18:25] <edmorley> bhearsum: ok :-)
# [18:25] <mconnor> mounir: you can decide who between jduell/sicking should do the honours
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# [18:25] <edmorley> Ms2ger: howdy :-)
# [18:25] <Ms2ger> Good, good
# [18:25] <Ms2ger> You?
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# [18:37] <edmorley> Ms2ger: also good thank you; surprising given how much looking at talos code earlier made my eyes bleed
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# [18:37] <Ms2ger> edmorley, poor, poor you ;)
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> edmorley, at least you're paid for it now :)
# [18:37] <jhammel> edmorley: i won't ask ;)
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# [18:38] <edmorley> jhammel: you have a "few" reviews now
# [18:38] <edmorley> :p
# [18:38] <jhammel> edmorley: coolz
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# [18:39] <edmorley> jhammel: they can wait til next week if that helps :-)
# [18:39] <jhammel> eh, got to shovel myself out of my own grave sometime
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# [19:03] <@bz> So how many winxp slaves do we have anyway?
# [19:03] <@bz> Because the wait times on them seem to be ... long
# [19:04] * @bz wonders how he can look up the expected wait time, or at least # of jobs pending, by slave type
# [19:04] <@ted> i think there's a way
# [19:04] <@ted> but i don't know offhand
# [19:04] <@ted> but yeah, the wait times are kind of ridiculous there
# [19:04] <edmorley> bz: I filed bug 794987
# [19:04] <edmorley> and per platform pending graphs at http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/pending.html
# [19:05] <Ms2ger> bz, fwiw, HTML has legacycaller on some plugin elements already
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# [19:05] <jgriffin> ttaubert: hey, just added a note on bug 793947 asking for a merge from fx-team :)
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# [19:05] <@ted> 1082 try
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# [19:05] <@ted> yikes
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# [19:07] <jgriffin> ttaubert: thanks!
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# [19:08] <Ms2ger> dzbarsky, ping
# [19:08] <dzbarsky> Ms2ger: pong
# [19:08] <Ms2ger> dzbarsky, the changes in https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/403ebae0552f seem to contain more than the commit message would suggest
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# [19:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/225a4da889c5 - Panos Astithas - Bug 793947 - Race condition in dbg-server.js breaks Marionette; r=msucan
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# [19:10] <jgriffin> ttaubert: tyvm!
# [19:11] <Ms2ger> dzbarsky, ok, thanks
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# [19:15] <@khuey> coming into the office was a mistake
# [19:16] <josh> ehsan: I hope so, but if you need to run no worries. Thanks for your input.
# [19:16] <@ehsan> josh: nope, just wanted to know whether I
# [19:16] <@ehsan> should wait :)
# [19:16] <josh> I'll message you as soon as I know
# [19:16] <josh> the mtg details
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# [19:19] <@dolske> zing
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# [19:21] <@bz> Ms2ger: oh, webidl has a way to express the "caller" thing?
# [19:21] <@bz> Ms2ger: excellent
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# [19:21] <@bz> edmorley: thanks!
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# [19:22] <Ms2ger> bz, yeah, for document.all initially
# [19:22] <@bz> man
# [19:22] <@bz> 1070 pending try test jobs on xp
# [19:23] <@bz> that explains the day-long lag times...
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# [19:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/74522aafbcdc - Gregory Szorc - Bug 794729 - Run config.guess and mozconfig through shell; r=glandium
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# [19:26] <Ms2ger> Oh dear, peterv is going to like bug 761695
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# [19:27] <Waldo> heh
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# [19:29] <@bz> ok
# [19:29] <@bz> so is there _anything_ I can do to speed up the lag time for this WinXP job on try? :(
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# [19:29] <bhearsum> bz: i think you can bump the priority in self serve...
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# [19:30] <froydnj> bz: I almost wonder whether your job is just wedged at this point
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# [19:30] <bhearsum> yeah, https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try has +1 buttons
# [19:30] <@khuey> bz: cancel other people's winxp jobs?
# [19:30] <bhearsum> i don't know if that will bump you past m-c/m-i/etc. jobs, or just put you first in line on try
# [19:30] <philor> first on try
# [19:30] <philor> cancelling other people's jobs is much more effective
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# [19:31] <stephend> ttaubert: <3 for merging bug 793947
# [19:31] <@bz> froydnj: well
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# [19:31] <philor> I usually start with things that have already landed on m-i, that's usually about a quarter of the pending
# [19:31] <@bz> froydnj: there are 1000+ pending jobs there
# [19:31] <@bz> froydnj: so define "wedged"?
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# [19:31] <@bz> froydnj: the stuff I pushed Tuesday evening finally started running sometime Wed afternoon
# [19:31] <@bz> froydnj: so it happened _eventually_
# [19:32] <@bz> froydnj: but I don't know what the pending count was back then
# [19:32] <philor> then move on to things where every other platform shows it was totally broken, but because we switched to no mail by default, there's no incentive to kill the pending jobs that are certain to fail
# [19:32] <froydnj> bz: I meant that your job is running, just stuck. maybe that's quite unlikely
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# [19:32] <Waldo> Callek: you do know memoserv is reserved solely for NeilAway's use, right?
# [19:32] <Waldo> ;-)
# [19:32] <@khuey> Waldo++
# [19:32] <@bz> froydnj: my job is listed as pending
# [19:32] <@bz> froydnj: pretty clearly
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# [19:32] <@bz> hmm
# [19:32] <froydnj> bz: oh, well, carry on then! (or not, as the case may be)
# [19:32] <@bz> I can kill other users' try jobs?
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# [19:33] <bhearsum> bz: yup!
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# [19:33] <@bz> That _is_ rather tempting.... ;)
# [19:33] <bhearsum> all committers can kill any jobs
# [19:33] <jhammel> orly?
# [19:33] * Ms2ger is busy doing that, actually
# [19:33] * @bz wonders how to do this efficiently
# [19:33] <@dolske> Waldo++
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# [19:33] <@bz> Ms2ger: oh?
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# [19:33] <bhearsum> but bumping your priority is probably a better first step...
# [19:33] <@bz> bhearsum: how would I do that?
# [19:33] <Waldo> bz: if I had any jobs for you to kill, I'd let you kill them!
# [19:33] <bhearsum> bz: find your job on https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try
# [19:33] <bhearsum> then click the "+1" button
# [19:33] <@bz> bhearsum: lookin
# [19:34] <@bz> heh
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# [19:34] * @bz wonders how many other such features we have!
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# [19:34] <bhearsum> hah
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# [19:34] <@dolske> I think it's dumb to be using Google Plus for this.
# [19:34] <bhearsum> maybe we should take bugzilla votes into account
# [19:34] <jhammel> dolske++
# [19:34] <Waldo> dolske: buzz!
# [19:34] <jhammel> except s/this/anything/
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# [19:35] <bhearsum> bz: did you not know about self serve at all?
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# [19:36] <bhearsum> i guess most of its features are exposed through TBPL
# [19:36] <@bz> I sorta vaguely did
# [19:36] <@bz> right
# [19:36] <@bz> and self-serve takes ... a while to load
# [19:36] <bhearsum> yeah
# [19:36] <@bz> so usually I avoid it
# [19:36] <@bz> hmm
# [19:36] <@bz> so I hit +1
# [19:36] <gbrown> m-i is not looking good: "No space left on device"...is anyone looking at that?
# [19:36] <@bz> The "Job status detail" lists priority as 1
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# [19:36] <bhearsum> so, that should put you ahead of all of the other try jobs for the same slaves, and possible ahead of m-c/m-i jobs too
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# [19:37] * @bz bumps to priority 2 and leaves it at that
# [19:37] <edmorley> bz: a hover over a try push shows a cancel-all button down the left hand side; saves having to use self-serve
# [19:37] <@bz> here's hoping!
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# [19:37] <bhearsum> :)
# [19:37] <@bz> edmorley: yes, I know how to cancel via tbpl. ;)
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# [19:37] <edmorley> bz: I've considered exposing the priority UI in TBPL, but suspect it may get abused
# [19:38] <@bz> edmorley: but I really want to just cancel winxp stuff; don't care about the rest
# [19:38] <@bz> edmorley: yeah, indeed
# [19:38] <jduell> mounir: ok I'm back--what's up?
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# [19:38] <bhearsum> bz: actually, bump it once more if you want it to be above m-c, i think these are related to the priorities in: https://github.com/mozilla/build-buildbot-configs/blob/master/mozilla/master_common.py#L21
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# [19:38] <sfink|flu> need try syntax cancel-after-failures=3?
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> sfink|flu, -after-unstarred-failures ;)
# [19:39] <edmorley> ha
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# [19:39] <Ms2ger> Then you just need to whack-a-mole the failures fast enough not to be canceled
# [19:39] <edmorley> btw TBPL's parser now recognises the cancel lines; so no more cheeky cancels where people don't think to check the full log... ;-)
# [19:40] <Ms2ger> And once you're used to that, we recruit you as a sheriff
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# [19:40] <mounir> jduell: i wanted to know if you were interested in reviewing the cookies removal patches
# [19:40] <Ms2ger> edmorley, neat
# [19:40] <mounir> jduell: otherwise, I can try to have sicking sr them
# [19:41] <mounir> jduell: if you review them, mconnor reviews will be sr
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# [19:41] <philor> I'm reluctant to expose priority in tbpl, since I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually work
# [19:41] <jduell> mounir: ok, I can +r them and switch mconnor's to sr
# [19:41] <philor> or if it does work in any way, it's a very unexpected way
# [19:42] <mounir> jduell: mconnor said he r/sr so if you r+ them, i will take mconnor's review as sr
# [19:42] <mounir> sicking: maybe you can sr them? :)
# [19:42] <jduell> mounir: exactly
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# [19:42] <@dolske> philor: might be useful as a placebo...
# [19:42] <philor> since I use it for "the tree is closed, and I need the winxp mochitest-other to reopen it, so I'm going to run the priority of that up to get it picked up before any of the other winxp tests, and it doesn't
# [19:43] <philor> in fact, the one I increase quite often gets picked up last
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# [19:43] <mounir> philor: what is AndroidNoIon?
# [19:43] <@bz> hmm
# [19:43] <@bz> wait
# [19:43] <@bz> how is priority used
# [19:44] <@bz> is it higher-is-more-important, or lower-is-more-imporant?
# [19:44] <mounir> edmorley: ping
# [19:44] <@bz> (the latter is what, e.g. Unix process priorities use)
# [19:44] <edmorley> mounir: hi
# [19:44] <mounir> edmorley: what is AndroidNoIon?
# [19:44] <philor> mounir: nothing for you to worry about
# [19:44] <mounir> it magically appeared in m-c
# [19:44] <@bz> ah
# [19:44] <@bz> yes
# [19:44] <mounir> philor, edmorley: how should I star those?
# [19:44] <@bz> lower is better
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# [19:44] <edmorley> mounir: android armv7 builds with js Ion turned off
# [19:44] <@bz> so I want the -1
# [19:44] <philor> a freshly re-added-back job that has keys troubles
# [19:44] <edmorley> mounir: just infra for now
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# [19:45] <edmorley> mounir: recently switched back on; missing ssh keye tc
# [19:45] <@bz> bhearsum: ping
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# [19:45] <@bz> bhearsum: do I want to +1 or -1?
# [19:45] <@bz> bhearsum: would really rather not get this wrong....
# [19:45] <@bsmedberg> heh
# [19:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a41f9fff4cd1 - Patrick McManus - bug 507578 - disable dns prefetch in presence of active proxy r=jduell
# [19:45] <bhearsum> bz: heh
# [19:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0129800fa8a1 - Patrick McManus - bug 791531 proxy callback on wrong thread after pac load r=biesi
# [19:45] <bhearsum> i presume +1
# [19:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/198e780680c1 - Patrick McManus - bug 773255 nsHttpConnection::Close() on error remove callbacks on mSocketOut r=honzab r=biesi
# [19:45] <bhearsum> catlee might know for sure
# [19:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcae72a1333c - Patrick McManus - bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api r=biesi sr=josh
# [19:45] <@bsmedberg> 'nice' has made the world a confusing place
# [19:45] <@bz> bhearsum: because in that .py file you linked me too, lower is higher priority....
# [19:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac9b018f79a8 - Patrick McManus - bug 791527 check compiler return on pac thread r=biesi
# [19:46] <gcp> taras: ping
# [19:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/345ebb6f3f3e - Patrick McManus - bug 347307 - make pac myIPAddress() more accurate r=biesi
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# [19:46] <bhearsum> bz: yeah, i'm not 100% sure about this ;(
# [19:46] <@bz> bhearsum: but the question is whether I'm changing something added to that number or subtracted from it
# [19:46] <josh> mcmanus++
# [19:46] <biesi> ok I need to turn off highlighting from firebot :)
# [19:46] * @bz puts it back to priority 0 for the moment
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# [19:47] <bhearsum> bz: yeah, and i'm not sure
# [19:47] <bhearsum> sorry
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# [19:47] <@bz> bhearsum: ok, I'll ping catlee
# [19:48] <@bz> oh, hey
# [19:48] <@bz> my test run started!
# [19:48] <bhearsum> woot
# [19:48] <@bz> jubilations!
# [19:48] <bhearsum> i bet that means +1 was the right thing to do
# [19:48] <@bz> yeah
# [19:49] <zzzzz> quick erase all the scroll-back before someone else learns that trick
# [19:49] <bhearsum> i assume social convention will keep people in line
# [19:49] <bhearsum> and if not that, bludgeoning will
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# [19:50] <bhearsum> that will be less common if someone figures out how to run "make check" without an objdir
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# [20:03] <Ms2ger> gps, ping
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# [20:05] <josh> Firefox Nightly is extremely crashy today, on gmail in particular
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# [20:06] <@khuey> bent was saying that earlier
# [20:07] <bent> josh, bug 794947
# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ef5ee5e312c - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 787432 - Don't strip existing empty wrappers when inserting text; r=ehsan
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# [20:09] <jhammel> hmmm, i guess paolo thought the library was ready then
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# [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0378831600de - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 794088: Custom Menu backgrounds on phones with h/w menu button needs better shadow. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56814cafb2ad - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 794088: Replace icons in custom menu. [r=mfinkle]
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# [20:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1da958ae4a00 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 788520: Menu item missing in Android 2.x. [r=mfinkle]
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# [20:23] <dumitru> jgriffin: try again that URL please?
# [20:23] <dumitru> clee: you too ^
# [20:23] <dumitru> let me know if it works now
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# [20:23] <jgriffin> dumitru: it does work now
# [20:23] <dumitru> thanks
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# [20:23] <dumitru> sorry for the trouble
# [20:23] <dumitru> it was my fault
# [20:24] <dumitru> was working on that yesterday and changed some stuff
# [20:24] <jgriffin> thanks for fixing it
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# [20:24] <dumitru> jgriffin: sure thing!
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# [20:29] <@khuey> froydnj: yes, you're probably right
# [20:30] <froydnj> khuey: \o/
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# [20:30] <@khuey> froydnj: butit does pass tests as is ;-)
# [20:30] <froydnj> khuey: I like the patch!
# [20:31] <@khuey> so do I!
# [20:31] <froydnj> khuey: passes tests everywhere? neat
# [20:31] <@khuey> froydnj: want to build with it and test how we compare to the other browsers on that testcase now?
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# [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbfb9d9241e4 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 791392 - Expose configured networks to content. r=vchang f=kaze
# [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4f422d91514 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 787552 - Expose the IP address and MAC address to content. r=vchang f=kaze
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# [20:32] <Ms2ger> bsmith, np
# [20:32] <froydnj> khuey: modulo having no idea how to test memory usage on other browsers *well*, sure!
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# [20:33] <@khuey> froydnj: oh, I guess edmorley did the comparative measurements
# [20:33] <@khuey> froydnj: I thought you did
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# [20:33] <gps> Ms2ger: pong
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# [20:34] <Ms2ger> gps, I think that was about the bug you r+'d
# [20:34] <froydnj> khuey: yeah. I don't mind visiting about:memory, though :p
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# [20:34] <Ms2ger> gps, oh, it actually wasn't
# [20:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e8915a37f5a - Mark Banner - Bug 793580 - Part 1: Use unsigned types in ExceptionArgParser::parseResult; r=ehsan
# [20:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3aab17dffac7 - Makoto Kato - Bug 793580 - Part 2: give the nsresult enum an explicit type on Win64; r=ehsan
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# [20:35] <Ms2ger> gps, it was about explicit_env at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/base.py#239 being a footgun
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# [20:35] <@bsmedberg> Are the mozcamp EU recordings available somewhere?
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, not yet, I think
# [20:36] <@bsmedberg> I looked on air.m.o and the mozcamp wiki and couldn't find them...
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# [20:36] <gps> Ms2ger: I think we all agreed in the review that it was a little awkward
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# [20:36] <Ms2ger> Someone asked on the mailing list two days ago
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# [20:37] <gps> but we do want a way to launch processes in a "clean" environment
# [20:37] <Ms2ger> gps, well, it made reftest not work :)
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# [20:37] <gps> then use append_env :)
# [20:37] <Ms2ger> But _run_make doesn't have such an argument :)
# [20:38] <gps> oooooh
# [20:38] <gps> yeah, we should probably have _run_make proxy explicit_env and append_env
# [20:38] <Ms2ger> gps, so do I add one? :)
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# [20:39] <Ms2ger> gps, want me to rename the explicit one too?
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# [20:40] <gps> Ms2ger: which one?
# [20:40] <Ms2ger> The one that's called just 'env' now
# [20:40] <gps> yes, rename to explicit_env and append_env
# [20:40] <gps> like _run_command
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# [20:41] <Ms2ger> OK
# [20:41] <Ms2ger> There had better not be too many calls yet :)
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# [20:54] <Dagger> does anyone happen to know the bug that changed the "The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded" notice from a dialog to a XUL error page?
# [20:54] <Dagger> the one that shows up if you set keywords.enabled to false and stick "[]" in the address bar
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# [20:56] <biesi> Dagger, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382702
# [20:57] <biesi> Dagger, or possibly https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312680
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# [20:57] <biesi> no wait, not that one
# [20:57] <biesi> the former one it is
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# [21:03] <Dagger> hm, thanks
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# [21:04] <sicking> bent: any chance you can do bug 794563 today?
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# [21:05] <Dagger> the bug I'm seeing is that the address bar gets cleared when displaying that error (but, I've just discovered, only with something that would otherwise trigger keywords.enabled)
# [21:05] <bent> sicking, yeah, trying
# [21:05] <sicking> bent: awesome
# [21:05] <Ms2ger> gps, ping
# [21:05] <Dagger> but that's probably not directly introduced by the patch in 382702 :/
# [21:06] <sicking> mounir: if bent does bug 794563 today. Can you help move localStorage/appcache/cookies to listen to the new notification instead of webapps:uninstall? So that we have clear-private-date and uninstall both working and using the same codepaths
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# [21:08] <BenWa> ted: So the signalHandler just in time debug stuff work well on mac. What do you think of using if not MOZ_OFFICIAL to enable it?
# [21:08] <mounir> sicking: yes
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# [21:08] <mounir> sicking: tonight or that could wait tomorrow?
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# [21:09] <sicking> mounir: tomorrow is totally fine. This is my last ask for the feature freeze
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# [21:11] <@ted> BenWa: probably not a bad idea, if !official and MOZ_CRASHREPORTER isn't set
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# [21:14] <mounir> sicking: ok :)
# [21:15] <@bsmedberg> johns: can I schedule a meeting with you Tuesday to talk about our strategy for making Flash hangs less painful?
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# [21:17] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
# [21:18] <jdm> ehsan: pong
# [21:18] <@ehsan> jdm: have you investigated bug 795015?
# [21:18] <jdm> ehsan: no. feel free to do so.
# [21:18] <@ehsan> jdm: ok
# [21:18] <@ted> BenWa: no, i mean, the env var
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# [21:19] <BenWa> gps: Trying out mach. Looking nice so far :)
# [21:19] <@ted> BenWa: we build crashreporting by default but we only enable it at runtime in MOZILLA_OFFICIAL builds or if you set MOZ_CRASHREPORTER=1
# [21:19] <BenWa> Ohh I see
# [21:19] <BenWa> sounds good
# [21:19] <@ehsan> jdm: do we set the privacy bit on popups correctly?
# [21:19] <jdm> ehsan: I recall a bug about that being fixed a while ago.
# [21:19] <@ehsan> hrm
# [21:20] <jdm> so I was under the impression that we did
# [21:20] <@ehsan> cause this is just a regular stylesheet
# [21:20] <@ehsan> I bet that we don't
# [21:20] <jimm> sheppy: ping
# [21:20] <@ehsan> jdm: is there an easy way to test that?
# [21:20] <jdm> let me find the original bug; I assume there was a testcase with that
# [21:20] <sheppy> jimm: pong
# [21:21] <jdm> ehsan: nsprivatebrowsingservice observes domwindowopened
# [21:21] <jdm> that's code you wrote, I believe
# [21:21] <jimm> sheppy: hey, fyi, bug 726615 is a really big change for touch enabled web sites. we probably want to get the word out early.
# [21:22] <@ehsan> jdm: heh, true
# [21:22] <@ehsan> jdm: ok I'll take a look
# [21:22] <@ehsan> if I don't forget :/
# [21:22] <jdm> ehsan: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d4068b54381a
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# [21:48] <@ehsan> jet: ping
# [21:48] <jet> ehsan: pong
# [21:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42200a47baea - Honza Bambas - Bug 776797 - Lock down POfflineCacheUpdate, r=jduell
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# [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60d3d0e84b2b - Honza Bambas - Bug 779100 - HSTS redirect load group management fix, r=jduell
# [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea28d9b3e939 - Honza Bambas - Bug 778127 - change only some test check messages, r=michal
# [21:50] <@ehsan> jet: so I'm considering backing out the patch for bug 157681 from trunk as well
# [21:50] <@ehsan> jet: once I figure out why it's causing test failures on aurora..
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# [21:51] <jet> :-/
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# [21:51] <@ehsan> jet: that would mean that the patch will bitrot... but I don't think that this is worth keeping on trunk any more, unless someone fixes the lexus.com regression
# [21:51] <@ehsan> jet: unless you have someone who's willing to take a look, of course :)
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# [21:51] <jet> ehsan: I asked mats to look into 775350
# [21:52] <@ehsan> jet: any idea whether he can do that before the next uplift?
# [21:52] <jet> not sure. I see jwatt and dholbert in the bug as well.
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# [21:53] <jet> I'll be in London next week and can see if jwatt has a better idea
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# [21:54] <@ehsan> jet: that would be great, thanks!
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# [21:55] <jet> ehsan: I didn't think lexus.com had svg in it. weird
# [21:55] <@ehsan> jet: no, it doesn't, that's a different issue -- see comment 14 on that bug
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# [21:56] <@ehsan> jet: that is basically the description of what's happening
# [21:56] <@ehsan> jet: it's just that I have no idea what the code in question is supposed to do
# [21:56] <@ehsan> jet: so I didn't know how to debug this further
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# [21:58] <@gavin> josh: where is the XUL notifications for Mac work happening?
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# [22:00] <josh> gavin: I know about it from an email thread I started with dougt, let me look for bug #s
# [22:00] <josh> gavin: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782211#c18
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# [22:01] <dougt> that is specifically about web notifications and has *nothing* to do with a generalized growl-like notification dialog
# [22:01] <dougt> if we build it to support both, great. but it isn't a requirement for web notifications.
# [22:01] <@ehsan> does anyone know how to tell whether the load event has already fired on a window?
# [22:02] <josh> dougt: that's not how I understood it
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# [22:02] <@khuey> ehsan: check IsLoading()?
# [22:02] <josh> that bug is about w3c specifically, but I thought the plan was to use the same foundation for general notifications
# [22:02] <@ehsan> khuey: oh, this is js
# [22:02] <dougt> josh: the bug is named " Implement w3c notification spec"
# [22:02] <@ehsan> khuey: (chrome js)
# [22:03] <dougt> not "implement mac xul notification dialogs" :p
# [22:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/806fa3680a91 - Josh Matthews - Bug 770778 - Make TCPSocket e10s-friendly. r=bent
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# [22:03] <@khuey> ehsan: can you just listen for load?
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# [22:03] <@ehsan> khuey: I am already doing that but I suspect that load might already be fired
# [22:03] <@ehsan> this is the handler for domwindowopened
# [22:03] <@ehsan> which _should_ be called before load I think
# [22:04] <@ehsan> but I am never getting a load event
# [22:04] <@ehsan> which suggests to me that load has already fired
# [22:04] <@khuey> I don't think there is a js visible way to check
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# [22:04] <@khuey> other than maybe looking at the docshell to see what's going on, which sounds messy
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# [22:05] <@ehsan> hrm
# [22:05] <@ehsan> that's weird
# [22:05] <@ehsan> surely I cannot be the only one who has ever wondered this?
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# [22:18] <@bz> ehsan: check the document readyState?
# [22:18] <@ehsan> bz: so my doc's readyState is "uninitialized"
# [22:18] <@ehsan> bz: and it never receives the load event
# [22:18] <@ehsan> what gives?
# [22:18] <@bz> ehsan: is it an about:blank document?
# [22:18] <@ehsan> bz: let me check
# [22:19] <@ehsan> bz: it's a popup window during domwindowopened fwiw
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# [22:19] <@bz> oh, you're adding a listener during donwindowopened?
# [22:19] <@ehsan> yes
# [22:19] <@ehsan> is that not kosher?
# [22:19] <@bz> well
# [22:19] <@bz> it's getting added to the inner of the about:blank
# [22:19] <@bz> in that window
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# [22:19] <@bz> then when the real page starts to load that's all blown away
# [22:20] <@bz> at least for a cross-origin load
# [22:20] <@ehsan> hmm
# [22:20] <@ehsan> so it _is_ about:blank
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# [22:20] <@ehsan> but shouldn't I receive domwindowopened at the chrome level window object?
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# [22:21] * @bz is not sure
# [22:21] <@ehsan> so, what's the proper way of doing this?
# [22:21] <@smaug> bdahl: should WATCH_DOG_MAX_COUNT rely on the number of canvas elements
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# [22:22] <@smaug> bdahl: since if there are lots of canvas elements, it might take longer to handle all the callbacks
# [22:23] <bdahl> smaug: it resets the watch dog count every time there is a notification(each time a mozPrintCallback is done)
# [22:23] <Ms2ger> Heh
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# [22:23] <Ms2ger> The web-page 'stop build' button was pressed by 'emorley@mozilla.com': Cancelled via self-serve
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# [22:23] <@bz> ehsan: "this" being "detect when this window finishes loading"?
# [22:24] <@smaug> bdahl: ah
# [22:24] <bdahl> smaug: this is good/bad
# [22:24] <@ehsan> bz: yes
# [22:25] <@bz> ehsan: I'm not sure there's a non-suck way to do it. :(
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# [22:25] <@ehsan> bz: :(
# [22:25] <@ehsan> that sucks very badly
# [22:25] <bdahl> smaug: that notification code is pretty confusing, i was tempted to restructure things but i wanted to do a small fix first
# [22:25] <@smaug> bdahl: hmm, where does it do the reset?
# [22:25] <@ehsan> bz: what's the sucky way of doing that?
# [22:25] <@ehsan> bz: (I don't really have much of a choice here)
# [22:26] <@bz> ehsan: polling until the readyState is complete?
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# [22:26] <@bz> ehsan: or something equally gross
# [22:26] <bdahl> smaug: line 129 nsPagePrintTimer.cpp
# [22:26] <@ehsan> bz: seriously?
# [22:27] <@bz> ehsan: best I can think of at the moment. :(
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# [22:27] <edmorley|away> Ms2ger: ha weird it logs both
# [22:27] <Ms2ger> Apparently so!
# [22:27] <Ms2ger> And you're not really away, are you? :)
# [22:27] <@smaug> bdahl: I'm looking at the patch
# [22:27] <@ehsan> bz: hmm, perhaps a better way would be to add a notification in the onload handler of browser.xul or something?
# [22:28] <@bz> ehsan: are you trying to detect the browser ui loading, or the web page loading?
# [22:28] <bdahl> smaug: yes line 129 "mWatchDogCount = 0;" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=665609&action=diff#a/layout/printing/nsPagePrintTimer.cpp_sec3
# [22:29] <@smaug> don't understand that
# [22:29] <@ehsan> bz: browser UI, because I need to know the windowtype attribute
# [22:29] <bdahl> smaug: it counts the number of times the watch dog timer goes off
# [22:30] <bdahl> if it gets to the max it fails
# [22:30] <vlad> bz: huh, my rAF patch seems to improve tdhtmlr_nochrome_paint frmo 700ms -> 500ms on WinXP (I'm assuming the number is ms, and that lower is better :)
# [22:30] <bdahl> smaug: currently it's checking ever 1sec during PrePrint
# [22:30] <@bz> ehsan: That really feels like it should Just Work
# [22:30] <@bz> ehsan: for that specific case...
# [22:30] <@smaug> bdahl: but when do we not enter if (timer && timer == mWatchDogTimer) { ?
# [22:30] <@bz> ehsan: what's the principal of the about:blank you're seeing?
# [22:30] <@ehsan> bz: can I get that from js?
# [22:31] <@bz> doc.nodePrincipal will be the nsIPrincipal
# [22:31] <@bz> the question is whether it's system or not
# [22:32] <@ehsan> checking
# [22:33] <bdahl> smaug: there are 3 things that can trigger that Notify. 1) mTimer (delay between printing pages) // timer=mTimer 2) printState.done(); //timer = null) 3) watch dog timer // timer=mWatchDogTimer
# [22:33] <@smaug> ah, 2) is the odd case
# [22:34] <bdahl> yeah, that's the one i really don't like
# [22:34] <bdahl> (not my code) :)
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# [22:34] <@smaug> bdahl: should we then have } else if (!timer) {
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# [22:35] <@ehsan> bz: doc.nodePrincipal.URI.spec is the target URL of the popup
# [22:35] <bdahl> smaug: and what would happen there?
# [22:35] <@ehsan> bz: so I would guess it's a content principal
# [22:35] <@smaug> bdahl: you have now } else {
# [22:36] <@bz> ehsan: that means it's not the chrome window for one thing
# [22:36] <@smaug> bdahl: is there any reason to set mWatchDogCount = 0; when timer == mTimer ?
# [22:36] <@ehsan> yes
# [22:36] <NeilAway> hmm, looks like my windows build is caching properly, i.e. not when I turn it off
# [22:37] <@bz> ehsan: can you use the DOMWindowCreated notification to look for a chrome window?
# [22:37] <@smaug> bdahl: btw, few typos: notificaitons nofications
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# [22:37] <@ehsan> bz: does that only fire for chrome windows?
# [22:37] <@bz> ehsan: or better yet the chrome-document-global-created observer service notification?
# [22:38] <@ehsan> oh that's what I want I think
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# [22:39] <gaston> gfx/2d/RecordedEvent.h:377:56: error: 'memcpy' was not declared in this scope
# [22:39] <gaston> gfx/2d/DrawTargetRecording.cpp:370:108: error: 'memset' was not declared in this scope
# [22:39] <gaston> is that already reported ?
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> Haven't seen it
# [22:40] <gaston> from the azure recording code imported some days ago.. Bas ?
# [22:40] <gaston> interestingly it seems my buildslave didnt catch that one by my local m-c clone on ppc did
# [22:40] <@smaug> bdahl: also, it would make the code easier to understand if you added comment about what different values timer parameter may have
# [22:40] <Bas> gaston: Nope, can you make a patch? Probably requires importing some file (string?) on ppc somewhere.
# [22:41] <gaston> i doubt that kind of thing is arch-dependent
# [22:41] <bdahl> smaug: i think just resetting on !timer should work
# [22:41] <gaston> let me pull m-c first and check tip
# [22:41] <@ehsan> bz: thank you
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# [22:41] <Bas> gaston: Probably just doesn't get included on PPC before including that file for some reason.
# [22:41] <bdahl> smaug: hah i actually had that comment but thought it may be to specific
# [22:42] <@smaug> bdahl: heh
# [22:42] <gaston> Bas: strange. anyway, will add to the list of things to look after
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# [22:43] <@smaug> bdahl: what is mPageSeqFrame->ResetPrintCanvasList();
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# [22:44] <bdahl> smaug: clears out all the mozPrintCallback canvases
# [22:45] <@smaug> bdahl: I mean why you added that call ?
# [22:46] <bdahl> smaug: just for cleanup on error...i'm thinking if it is really needed
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# [22:51] <bdahl> smaug: i'm that should all be automatically be cleaned up, so now i'm wondering why that function even exists
# [22:51] <bdahl> *i'm thinking
# [22:51] <@smaug> :)
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# [22:52] <@smaug> bdahl: so it ends up clearing printstate
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# [22:54] <@smaug> bdahl: which I guess is nice to clear
# [22:55] <@smaug> bdahl: but it should be enough to call ResetPrintCanvasList() when nsSimplePageSequenceFrame is deleted
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# [22:58] <bdahl> smaug: which do we even need that though? seems the print state should get reset when the cloned canvas is deleted
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# [23:00] <bdahl> well now i don't remember if the print state lives on the original or cloned canvas
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# [23:02] <@smaug> bdahl: could you check that
# [23:03] <bdahl> yeah
# [23:04] <@smaug> bdahl: other than those issues the patch looks ok. But could you upload a new one with better comments and perhaps with the } else if () {
# [23:04] <bdahl> yup
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# [23:07] <hurley> bsmedberg: yeah, even though i've always used caps lock as ctrl. apparently not so ergonomic for hard-core emacs-heads :)
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# [23:08] <jesup> bsmedberg: I once ruptured the middle-joint of my left pinky in walleyball. I was totally crippled at work for a month or two. ;-)
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# [23:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/519f41fa596f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 793408 - Remove some prtypes.h #includes from gfx; r=jrmuizel
# [23:09] <@bsmedberg> hurley: I love kinesis keyboards for that since you end up using your thumbs
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# [23:10] <hurley> bsmedberg: i contemplated that, but my numbness demanded a more immediate solution than ordering a new keyboard. not to mention the peer pressure being surrounded by vim users
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# [23:11] <@bsmedberg> yeah
# [23:11] <@bsmedberg> they're a rough bunch
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# [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73ffe71f9d12 - Bas Schouten - Bug 778367: Minimize intermediate surface size. r=jrmuizel
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# [23:14] <jesup> vi vi vi - the number of the beast. Emacs rules! :-)
# [23:15] <jesup> bsmedberg (and ehsan and glandium if you're around): question about stl use and some related issues
# [23:15] <@bz> What does annotating a method with "MOZ_FINAL MOZ_OVERRIDE" mean?
# [23:15] <@bz> MOZ_FINAL means no one is allowed to override it?
# [23:15] <@bsmedberg> bz: the method cannot be overridden, and overrides a base-class method
# [23:15] <@bz> MOZ_OVERRIDE means its overriding something on a superclass?
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# [23:15] <@bz> ok
# [23:15] <@bz> thanks
# [23:16] <@bsmedberg> jesup: pong, although clones is probably your man
# [23:17] <jesup> Or even cjones?
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# [23:18] <cjones> ?
# [23:19] <jesup> So, we have a pile of code, some of which is using std::string (a lot in signaling), std::vector, a little std::queue. What's our position on this? And if we write new code that interacts with these, is using those an issue?
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# [23:20] <@bsmedberg> string and vector are fine
# [23:20] <@bsmedberg> I don't know whether we've checked queue or not
# [23:20] * jesup surveyed the tree and saw a bunch of string and vector, a little queue
# [23:20] <@bsmedberg> Design the interactions with mozilla code carefully, that's all
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# [23:20] <jesup> Isn't b2g using queue somewhere?
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# [23:21] <@smaug> when using stl in hot paths, make sure stl implementations are fast enough
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# [23:23] <jesup> Most of this is imported code (like webrtc.org using std::vector<> in the RTP code, which is pretty hot-path and was decided on/tested upstream by Google/GIPS). Rewriting to avoid would be a nightmare :-/ And I think those are ok perf-wise
# [23:24] <cjones> jesup, those are fine
# [23:24] <jesup> And i"m not sure teh vector<> stuff is really hot-pathed. std::string is used a lot in signaling (imported SIP lib from Cisco)
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# [23:26] <jesup> Ok, related question (kinda): iostream. These (especially signaling and the media transport code/ICE/DTLS code, which is 2/3 imported) use IOStream largely for their debug/logging primitives (which we've refactored at the bottom to dump into NSPR logging)
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# [23:26] <jesup> cjones: std::queue as well?
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# [23:27] <hub> jesup: it is implemented as a std::list<>
# [23:27] <cjones> jesup, yep
# [23:28] <cjones> ehsan, you busted windows
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# [23:32] <mounir> biesi, jduell: would that be fine to move mochitests from bug 783408 in extensions/cookie/ given that there are already quite a few mochitests there
# [23:33] <jesup> Cool. So, IOStream for logging. changing all the logging code not to use it would be... fun. Not. We could nuke it all, but I'd rather not. Is it an issue to use? If it is, would restricting it to debug builds help?
# [23:33] <biesi> mounir, sounds good
# [23:34] <jduell> mounir: yeah that seems fine
# [23:35] <mounir> great \o/
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# [23:35] <@bsmedberg> jesup: iostream has caused linkage issues in the past, but I forget why. I don't think we should be using it in production environments without more thought, but for logging-debugging code I think the rule can be "if it works on try it's ok"
# [23:35] <@bsmedberg> jesup: the problems would be dealing with code that threw exceptions on IO failure, mainly
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# [23:37] <philor> ehsan: busted on inbound
# [23:37] <philor> fabrice: busted on inbound
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# [23:44] <cjones> who's backing ehsan out?
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# [23:46] <philor> apparently the same person who's backing fabrice out
# [23:46] * philor grows the grain
# [23:46] <RyanVM> i haven't even had a chance to bring up tbpl yet
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# [23:48] <RyanVM> and *boom* goes the Firefox
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# [23:48] <RyanVM> the joys of being one of those rare people that uses chatzilla as a firefox extension
# [23:48] <philor> disable ionmonkey
# [23:49] <efaust> :(
# [23:49] <RyanVM> I just reverted to my known good build :)
# [23:49] <philor> if you're on today's nightly
# [23:49] <RyanVM> I roll my own
# [23:49] <RyanVM> and always keep my previous around
# [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40cb18805291 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 783408 - 3/4 - Delete app's cookies when uninstalled. r=jlebar,mconnor
# [23:49] <philor> I'd bet on the same thing as the gmail crash
# [23:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd91830d06d1 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 783408 - 1/4 - Add a method in nsICookieManager2 that returns app's cookies. r=jduell sr=mconnor
# [23:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/397e4cc473be - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 783408 - 4/4 - Tests. r=mconnor
# [23:49] <philor> oh, did you just race me with all that shit?
# [23:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa1746e4ec72 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 783408 - 2/4 - Add a function to remove app's cookies in nsICookieManager2. r=jduell sr=mconnor
# [23:49] <RyanVM> I should really check out TB's IRC capabilities
# [23:49] <philor> fuck
# [23:49] <philor> closing the tree
# [23:49] <@bz> RyanVM: so I hate WinXP
# [23:49] <@bz> RyanVM: a _lot_
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# [23:50] <RyanVM> bz: having that much success tracking down the leak, are you
# [23:50] <philor> awesome that I've got autocomplete for the reason
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# [23:50] <mounir> philor: sorry for pushing on a busted tree :(
# [23:50] <RyanVM> bz: fwiw, it did happen a couple times on 7 too, just not as frequently
# [23:51] <philor> what's the easy way to say qimport -r tip-1?
# [23:51] <RyanVM> hg --rebase? :)
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# [23:51] <RyanVM> hg pull --rebase rather
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# [23:52] <RyanVM> i've never been able to figure out how to qimport tip when racing with another push
# [23:52] <@bz> RyanVM: well, I have no winxp
# [23:52] <@bz> RyanVM: I punted tracking down to mccr8
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# [23:52] <RyanVM> bz: do you have 7?
# [23:52] <@bz> RyanVM: the one code change that might have helped I pushed to try, but no dice
# [23:52] <@bz> yes, I do
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# [23:53] * @bz has spent 2 hours so far today trying to get it to compile
# [23:53] <mccr8> RyanVM: I'm trying to hack up a patch to dump CC logs for try puhes.
# [23:53] <RyanVM> you *could* try xp mode
# [23:53] <@bz> then I switched back to doing reviews....
# [23:53] <@bz> mmm
# [23:53] <RyanVM> not sure how much of an environment that would get you, though
# [23:53] <@bz> RyanVM: what I don't understand is why this is Windows-only at all....
# [23:53] <RyanVM> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/windows-xp-mode
# [23:53] <RyanVM> :(
# [23:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac2d810e2a35 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 519f41fa596f (bug 793408) for Windows build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [23:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee82f8e39afc - Phil Ringnalda - Back out c6cb52ebb2c8 (bug 789527) for xpcshell bustage
# [23:54] <RyanVM> bz: sadly, it would probably be easiest to install a "borrowed" copy of xp in a VM
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# [23:55] <mccr8> bz: could be something horrible going on... billm had some nasty XP-only leaks with IGC...
# [23:55] <mccr8> which came down to some CC bugginess that was only triggered under some circumstances.
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# [23:57] <@bz> mccr8: mmm
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# [23:57] <@bz> mccr8: thank you for helping with this, btw....
# [23:58] <philor> wonder whether I should notice that bug 782877 is nearly permaorange
# [23:58] <@bz> mccr8: this stuff is just insane. :(
# [23:58] <mccr8> bz: I haven't done anything yet. ;)
# [23:58] <@bz> mccr8: well, other than me not having to worry about it, for now!
# [23:58] <mccr8> yeah pretty weird that it leaks 25% of nsGlobalWindows on one platform...
# [23:58] <@bz> mccr8: which is already a huge plus from my pov
# [23:58] <philor> and whether I should smack Colloquy in the clipboard
# [23:58] <mccr8> true. I was waiting for some old patches, but I have them now and can start working on it.
# [23:58] <mccr8> instead of helping with these other leaks. ;)
# [23:58] <@bz> mccr8: heh
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# [23:59] <mccr8> helping people with leaks is weird because I just analyze stuff and throw it up and hope somebody who knows the code in question can make any sense out of it...
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