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# Session Start: Fri Sep 28 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <@bz> mccr8: I think officially that's called "Leveraging leak-debugging synergies to produce lower-memory outcomes."
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# [00:00] <jhammel> bz++
# [00:00] <@bz> mccr8: fwiw, that's how it works with performance
# [00:00] <@bz> mccr8: I do a profile and analyze it, then throw it in the bug and cc people. ;)
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# [00:00] <mccr8> hah. yeah I guess that is true.
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# [00:02] <drs> bsmedberg: ping
# [00:02] <@bsmedberg> drs: pong
# [00:03] <drs> bsmedberg: hey, I think(?) you're the best person to ask this but I'm not sure: in TabChild, if I want to remove observers, where should I do this?
# [00:03] <@bsmedberg> drs: I haven't touched that code in a long time. What kind of observers?
# [00:03] <@bz> mccr8: so I think you should not rule out "ion corrupts my memory" as a leak cause
# [00:03] <drs> observer service
# [00:03] <@bz> mccr8: fwiw
# [00:03] <@ehsan> cjones: philor|away: sorry... I did test this on windows locally :(
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# [00:03] <@bz> mccr8: esp with those TI asserts. :(
# [00:03] <@ehsan> jesup: what's up?
# [00:03] <drs> they're added on init
# [00:03] <@bsmedberg> drs: and you're asking when they should be removed?
# [00:04] <@bsmedberg> or how they should be removed?
# [00:04] <drs> bsmedberg: correct
# [00:04] <mccr8> bz: good point...
# [00:04] <drs> the issue is that TabChild lives until shutdown because of the observer service
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# [00:04] <drs> and I'm not sure when to unregister observers
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# [00:04] <drs> bsmedberg: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1389
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# [00:06] <@bsmedberg> drs: well if there's not a better shutdown sequence, then probably in TabChild::ActorDestroy
# [00:06] <@bsmedberg> drs: but there may be an earlier location where they should be removed in some cases
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# [00:07] <drs> bsmedberg: ok, do you know who to ask?
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# [00:07] <@bsmedberg> drs: smaug has been doing most of the reviewing for that file, so I'd follow up with him
# [00:07] <@smaug> I was suggesting TabChild::RecvDestroy in #b2g
# [00:07] <drs> what's the difference?
# [00:08] <jesup> ehsan: I think bsmedberg and cjones covered it, thanks
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# [00:08] <@bsmedberg> RecvDestroy is a good choice for normal shutdown cases
# [00:08] <@bsmedberg> I guess in TabChild abnormal shutdown isn't an issue because we'll already have aborted/killed the process
# [00:09] <@ehsan> jesup: cool
# [00:09] <drs> ok, I'll use RecvDestroy
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# [00:13] <sfink|flu> I feel like landing
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# [00:15] <philor> YEP
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# [00:16] <philor> RyanVM: I'm back at work, could you please escort mounir out of the CLOSED TREE?
# [00:16] <philor> and leave it closed, I think
# [00:17] <mounir> ?
# [00:17] <philor> [nsCookieService.o] Error 1
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# [00:18] <mounir> wtf...
# [00:18] <philor> I'm betting against "I backed out poorly in a way that broke cookies" and for "when you landed on top of the bustage on top of the bustage, you landed bustage" :)
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# [00:18] <mounir> philor: no
# [00:18] <mounir> it's my fault
# [00:18] <mounir> I forgot a patch in my patch queue that was fixing that thing
# [00:18] <mounir> :'(
# [00:19] <RyanVM> mounir: I'm a bit nicer than philor - I have a one-strike policy
# [00:19] <mounir> RyanVM: I can push that patch
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# [00:19] <mounir> but I need biesi
# [00:19] <RyanVM> mounir?
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# [00:19] <mounir> biesi: ping
# [00:20] <mounir> RyanVM: I can fix that very simply
# [00:20] <RyanVM> mounir: if you have an easy fix on hand, go ahead and push
# [00:20] <biesi> mounir, pong
# [00:20] <RyanVM> if not, I'll back out
# [00:20] <mounir> biesi: what would be the solution for bug 794023
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# [00:21] <biesi> mounir, hmm? the patch as it is. remove the comment.
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# [00:23] <mounir> biesi: as it is? but you said that you didn't want numeric_limits
# [00:23] <biesi> mounir, no, I didn't say that
# [00:23] <biesi> mounir, I said I don't want the literal, which the patch fixes
# [00:23] <philor> RyanVM: s/nicer/younger/ ;)
# [00:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b10c359b30e5 - Mounir Lamouri - No bug - Fix build bustage on CLOSED TREE.
# [00:23] <RyanVM> philor :)
# [00:23] <mounir> biesi: oh... I read "Necko" instead of "NSPR"
# [00:24] <biesi> ah :)
# [00:24] <mounir> I was surprised to read that actually ;)
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# [00:24] <biesi> yeah numeric_limits is fine in necko :)
# [00:24] <mounir> ok, then I will push that tomorrow
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# [00:29] <dholbert> gps, I'm running mach for the first time, and I'm getting lots of python errors early in the build process like "UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 45: ordinal not in range(128)"
# [00:29] <dholbert> gps, found familiar?
# [00:29] <dholbert> gps, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1846567
# [00:30] <@gavin> that sounds familiar to me
# [00:30] <@gavin> damn, where did I deal with that
# [00:30] <dholbert> I suspect (but am not sure) that it's from fancy-quotes in warning messages
# [00:30] * jhammel too :/
# [00:30] <@gavin> now it's going to bug me
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# [00:31] <jhammel> i wonder if we can/should patch the .decode method to ignore errors by default
# [00:31] <jhammel> heavy-handed, i know, but...
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# [00:33] <gps> dholbert: there is a bug on file...
# [00:33] <gps> for some reason the error is much worse now than it was the other day
# [00:34] <gps> I /think/ make is changing the terminal encoding of executed commands on me
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# [00:34] <dholbert> ah yes, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791292
# [00:34] <dholbert> er
# [00:35] <dholbert> nevermind, that's a different occurrence of the same warning
# [00:35] <gps> bug 794713
# [00:35] <dholbert> yup
# [00:35] <gps> so, if you turn off color output from Clang you'll fix it!
# [00:35] <dholbert> I'm not using clang!
# [00:35] <dholbert> I'm using g++ 4.7
# [00:35] <dholbert> :)
# [00:35] <gps> GCC is doing color terminal encoding?
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# [00:36] <@gavin> bug 669483!
# [00:36] <@gavin> that's where I dealt with that same error elsewhere
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# [00:36] <gps> dholbert: do you have CFLAGS in your mozconfig to force GCC to print color?
# [00:36] <dholbert> gps, nope
# [00:36] <gps> uf you execute builds through mach/client.mk, GCC should detect !is_tty() and not send terminal control characters for color
# [00:37] <dholbert> gps, if I just run "make -f client.mk build", I get no color
# [00:38] <gps> dholbert: right. that's GCC behaving properly
# [00:38] <dholbert> gps, (yup -- just confirming that)
# [00:38] <gps> so, mach's ASCII warning is typically the result of terminal control characters
# [00:38] <gps> which is typically color sequences from compiler warnings
# [00:38] <gps> there are a few non-ASCII characters printed by the build system, but not many
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# [00:39] <gps> anyway, it's a bug in the logging mechanism of mach that needs to be fixed
# [00:39] <gps> friggin Python strings...
# [00:39] <dholbert> mach, IIRC the quotes are non-ascii
# [00:39] <@smaug> josh: ping
# [00:39] <dholbert> er s/mach/gps/
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# [00:39] <dholbert> gps, the quote characters in many build warnings are some fancy unicode characters
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# [00:39] <gps> dholbert: ahhh
# [00:40] <jhammel> if they're unicode, that shouldn't by itself cause a problem
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# [00:40] <jhammel> unless we're double-decoding, or something awful
# [00:40] <gps> jhammel: we might be double encoding. the code in the logging module is... special
# [00:40] <jhammel> heh
# [00:40] <jhammel> gps: unrelatedly, do you still want/need a review on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794729 ?
# [00:41] <gps> jhammel: no. glandium took care of it
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# [00:42] <jhammel> gps: thanks, i will de r? myself
# [00:42] <gps> jhammel: already done
# [00:42] <jhammel> heh, perfect :)
# [00:42] <gps> jhammel: also, there is a tea party happening at my desk right now. we will likely be brewing in the main kitchen in <5
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# [00:42] <jhammel> gps: seriously?
# [00:43] <jhammel> can/should i bring my own tea?
# [00:43] <gps> yes
# [00:43] <jhammel> nice !
# [00:43] <gps> sure! although my teas are more crazy blends
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# [00:43] <jesup> So, the Debugging on WIndows FAQ is mostly about VC6 and VC7....
# [00:43] <jesup> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_Mozilla_on_Windows_FAQ
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# [00:47] <jesup> So I have a debug (but optimized) build, and after an assertion in MS CRT code I'm just seeing xul.dll addresses, no source or even file/lines. I'm probably using and/or building something wrong! Any sugggestions? I can rebuild with --disable-optimize, but I doubt that will help with this.
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# [00:47] <@khuey> is it reproducible?
# [00:48] <jesup> khuey: quite
# [00:48] <jesup> on alder :-)
# [00:48] <@khuey> attach a debugger
# [00:48] <@khuey> it'll give you a stack
# [00:48] <jesup> I did, that's where I got the list of xul offsets
# [00:48] <@khuey> oh
# [00:48] <@khuey> not in the terminal output
# [00:48] <@khuey> ok
# [00:48] <@khuey> one sec
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# [00:49] <jesup> xul offsets aren't really helpful - I'm using VC10's IDE
# [00:49] <@khuey> jesup: do you see a "Modules" screen anywhere?
# [00:49] <jesup> let me re-attach to a fresh crash
# [00:50] <dholbert> gps, this seems to affect its detection of warnings, btw. mach warnings-list says I only have 3 warnings, on a clobber-build
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# [00:51] <dholbert> gps, those warnings are http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1846611 , which are incidentally warnings from gcc, not g++ (for .c files). Might be that the g++ warnings all have the fancy unicode characters
# [00:51] <jesup> khuey: Ok, caught it. Call stack, Autos, a file in their CRT
# [00:52] <jesup> Ok, there's a modules tab on the autos window
# [00:52] <@khuey> jesup: find xul.dll in there
# [00:52] <@khuey> jesup: what does it say for "Symbol Status"?
# [00:53] <jesup> Cannot find... for all but msvcr100 looks like
# [00:54] <@khuey> ok
# [00:54] <@khuey> did you move the executable after building?
# [00:54] <@khuey> or something weird?
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# [00:54] <jesup> Hold on, I think I'm being 'helped' by windows. One sec
# [00:54] <@khuey> heh
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# [00:56] <jesup> Ok, works now. Perfect. thanks
# [00:57] <@khuey> cool
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# [00:59] <gps> dholbert: also, I'm not sure mach parses warnings from GCC 4.7 yet. please file a bug against Core :: Build Config with log output of warnings so we can add a parser
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# [01:06] <ddahl> has anyone ever seen "Found an unexpected alert:alert at the end of test run" in browser chrome tests?
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# [01:07] <sicking> ddahl: never... looking at your tests now
# [01:08] <ddahl> sicking: one of the mac salves passed, the linux tests are passing, the windows checks all passed with that alert:alert error
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# [01:08] <ddahl> i think i should file a bug on the Mac bits
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# [01:10] <sicking> ddahl: what mac bits do you need to file a bug on?
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# [01:11] <ddahl> sicking: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1846660
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# [01:11] <ddahl> sicking: that assert happens right between install and uninstall checks in the test on Mac
# [01:12] <sicking> ddahl: are you doing anything to supress the install dialog?
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# [01:12] <ddahl> sicking: no, just getting the doorhanger install button and activating it
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# [01:13] <ddahl> sicking: there is some discussion on this in #b2g
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# [01:14] <sicking> ddahl: gimme 5 and i'll be there
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# [01:15] <ddahl> sicking: I am ding this to dismiss the doorhanger and install:
# [01:15] <ddahl> function handlePopup(aEvent)
# [01:15] <ddahl> 153
# [01:15] <ddahl> {
# [01:15] <ddahl> 154
# [01:15] <ddahl> aEvent.target.removeEventListener("popupshown", handlePopup, false);
# [01:15] <ddahl> 155
# [01:15] <ddahl> SpecialPowers.wrap(this).childNodes[0].button.doCommand();
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# [01:22] <@smaug> ddahl: don't you want aEvent.currentTarget.removeEventListener..
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# [01:26] <jduell> bent: ping
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# [01:26] <bent> jduell, hey
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# [01:27] <ddahl> smaug: perhaps, that was a cut n paste job
# [01:27] <jduell> bent: so looks like your patch for 794563 sends webapps-clear-data for clear data, and still uses webapps-uninstall for uninstall?
# [01:27] <jduell> I somehow thought we were using clear-data for both
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# [01:28] <jduell> bent: d'oh, wait, looks like you're sending out both clear-data(false) and 'uninstall' for now
# [01:29] <bent> yep
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# [01:29] <jduell> bent: that gonna land anytime soon?
# [01:29] <bent> you should use the cleardata
# [01:29] <bent> mounir, ^
# [01:29] <bent> just needs review
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# [01:30] <jduell> bent: mmK, that and an open tree :)
# [01:30] <jduell> mounir: I'm gonna centralize the code that receives the clear-data message, so I'll take care of cookie part too.
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# [01:47] <philor> fun, now inbound has a bunch of crashes in gfxContext::PushClipsToDT
# [01:47] <philor> Bas: don't suppose you would know anything about that?
# [01:49] <Bas> philor: We pushed a fix for a problem yesterday?
# [01:50] <Bas> Or the day before, I forget.
# [01:50] <Bas> philor: Wait, I might've pushed something that could affect that.
# [01:50] <philor> Bas: this is tip of inbound - you pushed into Windows bustage, but once the Windows bustage cleared, we're crashing on Windows
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# [01:51] <philor> s/into/on top of/
# [01:51] <Bas> philor: I'll have a look.
# [01:51] <philor> since I can't really blame you for not knowing it was busted four minutes later :)
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# [01:52] <philor> luckily, we'll probably be closed for at least a couple more hours
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# [01:55] <gps> dholbert: this bug may induce me to write a blog post raging about how Python treats strings
# [01:55] <dholbert> gps, heh
# [01:55] <gps> foo = u'\x9efoo'
# [01:55] <gps> no problem
# [01:56] <gps> str('\xe9foo')
# [01:56] <gps> no problem
# [01:56] <gps> str(u'\xe9foo')
# [01:56] <gps> ZOMG BLOW UP THE WORLD
# [01:57] <Bas> philor: I might know what's going on.
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# [01:59] <benjamin> gps: python3 ftw :)
# [01:59] <gps> benjamin: tell me about it!
# [01:59] <drs> anyone know how to log stuff when doing try runs? I have a c++ function I want to dump values whenever it gets called
# [01:59] <@roc> on android specifically
# [01:59] <drs> yeah^
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# [01:59] <@roc> on normal platforms you can just print to stderr
# [02:00] <drs> maybe I can just do that
# [02:00] <dholbert> drs, I don't think you can
# [02:00] <@roc> I don't think that works on Android
# [02:01] <drs> joy
# [02:01] <dholbert> stderr goes to logcat on android
# [02:01] <@roc> obviously the test harness can print stuff on android
# [02:01] <@roc> figure out how it does that :-)
# [02:02] <dholbert> but the test harness isn't running on the actual device, IIRC
# [02:02] <dholbert> it's running on a desktop machine, which is driving the android machine
# [02:02] <dholbert> (s/desktop/vm/ probably)
# [02:02] <@roc> messages like "got 191, expected 200" propagate from the device somehow
# [02:02] <dholbert> I don't think those are from the device -- those are from xpcshell, running on the desktop machine
# [02:03] <drs> maybe I should just get my fennec dev env set up again so I don't have to wait 2 hours for each try run, might be faster
# [02:03] <@roc> the value 191 was computed on the device and propagated somehow
# [02:03] <dholbert> roc, oh sorry, I was remembering a different message
# [02:03] <Bas> philor: I have an idea of what might fix it, but I can't reproduce the issue locally, any preference for what I should do?
# [02:04] <Bas> Ah, I might know how to repro.
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# [02:04] <dholbert> (I was remembering the evil "Before 123, after 456, break 789" messages that used to always interrupt android logs)
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# [02:05] <Bas> philor: Actually, I need to be backed out
# [02:05] <Bas> philor: Want me to do it or will you?
# [02:05] <dholbert> drs, whoah, what did you do with dRdR?
# [02:06] <drs> dholbert: my bot said dRdR was 60% lame
# [02:06] <drs> so I became drs, which according to my bot, is 0% lame
# [02:06] <drs> that's a 60% improvement, or 100% decrease in lameness
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# [02:07] <dholbert> drs, fair enough. congrats on the lameness-reduction!
# [02:08] <Bas> drs: Ahah, if you'd ever move back though, you'd be -infinitely- more lame.
# [02:08] <drs> thanks
# [02:08] <drs> Bas: yeah :(
# [02:09] * WG9s bets WG9s is 100% lame!
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# [02:11] <philor> Bas: I won't have a tree for another 3 hours, so if you can (on the CLOSED TREE is fine), that'd be good
# [02:11] <Bas> philor: I will try.
# [02:11] <drs> WG9s: my bot is down, otherwise I'd check for you. I'd guess 80% :p
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# [02:12] <RyanVM> what's the story with the power outage?
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# [02:13] <philor> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795157
# [02:13] <RyanVM> not authorized
# [02:13] <RyanVM> :(
# [02:13] <philor> hahaha
# [02:14] <philor> I cc'ed as fast as I possibly could, because of that
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# [02:14] <philor> there are many things we do that I think are snorting-coke-out-of-my-nose-silly, and that's one
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# [02:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07d337fb220a - Bas Schouten - Backout 73ffe71f9d12 (bug 778367) for windows test bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [02:15] <philor> couple more hours (for power, then releng has to bring stuff back up), power off on the 3rd floor, power on on the 2nd floor but no AC, bringing in a portable
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# [02:23] <philor> I think the MoCo confidential part is keeping terrorists from knowing that THE TEGRAS ARE ON THE THIRD (3RD) FLOOR, THAT'S THE THIRD FLOOR IN MTV
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# [02:23] <Callek> and we let the largest proponent of torching the tegras CC himself too fast
# [02:24] <edmorley|away> lol
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# [02:25] * WG9s was going to try to find someone to cc me but philor's update seems to sum it up good enough for me.
# [02:28] <edmorley|away> WG9s: CCed you
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# [02:34] <joduinn> edmorley|away: philor bug is no longer moco-confidential
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# [02:36] <edmorley|away> joduinn: thank you
# [02:36] <@ted> sewardj: pong
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# [02:36] <joduinn> edmorley|away: np
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# [02:45] <mbrubeck> now that the terrorists already know where the tegras are
# [02:46] <mbrubeck> the terrorists who are on IRC, anyway
# [02:46] <sfink|flu> philor: so, how do you figure out the valid try syntax options? I found the code, and the helpful test (that fails), but I don't understand where the magic builder names or whatever they are come from
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# [02:48] <philor> sfink|flu: on the web page, there's that link to look up what's in each talos suite? everything else is just up the page from the talos suites
# [02:49] <philor> well, everything except what you might be after, since spidermonkey_foo_bar is in.. project_branches.py?
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# [02:50] <philor> well, down the page, I guess
# [02:50] * philor starts over
# [02:50] <philor> sfink|flu: why don't you just tell me what movie you want to see?
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# [02:52] <philor> and autocomplete shows my shame, I find the names like I just did, with http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/search?string=spidermonkey
# [02:52] <sfink|flu> hm, maybe Top Gun, but set in a bathtub, with pink fuzzy... wait, you weren't being literal
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# [02:53] <sfink|flu> philor: main goal would be to figure out how to mutate try syntax to allow requesting the spidermonkey root analysis builds instead of them being based wholly on what files you touched
# [02:53] <jduell> mounir: are you working on bug 795134? I can do the cookie part
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# [02:54] <philor> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2CP45MHJd8
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# [02:55] <`markus> Hi, I'm wondering if someone could help me out to get a general idea of what caused this bug: https://bugzil.la/662555
# [02:55] <WG9s> philor: and i expected a video of complete blackness and you to say that was MV 3rd floor.
# [02:55] <@bsmedberg> sfink|flu: is anything based on what files you touched? I'd be surprised by that
# [02:56] <sfink|flu> bsmedberg: the spidermonkey jobs trigger iff you touch js/src
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# [02:57] <@bsmedberg> sfink|flu: interesting… I don't know anything about that. But do you understand where try server does chooser parsing?
# [02:58] <sfink|flu> according to bug 775355 comment 7, and observation
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# [02:58] <sfink|flu> bsmedberg: the code in buildbotcustom/try_parser, you mean?
# [02:58] <@bsmedberg> yeah
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# [02:59] <@bsmedberg> if you've found that, you're about as far along as I can help you ;-)
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# [03:00] <sfink|flu> ok, I guess the config.py stuff is where the names come from. Guess I should've clicked that link, but it just gave me a bunch of boring Python code...
# [03:01] <RyanVM> power's back, when can I push?
# [03:02] <Callek> philor, RyanVM, edmorley|away: for sanity, I'm going to PDU-reset all tegras, so that they are in a "better" state as a device. So if any jobs are currently running [very very unlikely] they'll get interupted
# [03:02] <WG9s> prol need to get servers online and working
# [03:03] <RyanVM> philor: sad thing is, I was just looking at the last inbound PGO push (before the backout spree) and the number of m-oth orange made me think something was broken in that push
# [03:03] <WG9s> i would get get dinner then check
# [03:03] <WG9s> njust based on my experience in my real job on such things
# [03:05] <Callek> RyanVM: power is back, but we need to recover systems first --
# [03:05] <sfink|flu> philor, bsmedberg: thanks. I'm armed and dangerous now.
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# [03:10] <philor> RyanVM: nice, isn't it? something made bug 782788 angry, and I think my lesson for the a11y ones is to not make surkov angry by disabling one test, because he'll add so much logging to a dozen tests that they'll fail ten times as often
# [03:10] <RyanVM> heh
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# [03:14] <philikon> so a power outage in MTV brings down email and the tree?
# [03:14] <philikon> wtf?
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# [03:15] <philor> dunno about your email, but it brings down the tegras, so we don't test on android, so yeah, it brings down the tree
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# [03:15] <philikon> oh tegras
# [03:16] <philikon> ic
# [03:16] <philikon> haxx0r
# [03:16] <philikon> (which si the room that they're in i think)
# [03:16] <RyanVM> i've got an itchy trigger finger sitting on |hg push| right now
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# [03:17] <philikon> you and me brother
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# [03:17] <markh> but power is back on according to email...
# [03:18] <philor> alas, the power doesn't automatically bring up 10 foopies and 200-odd tegras
# [03:18] <nthomas> IT are working to bring up the KVM cluster which provides DNS/DHCP and other infra
# [03:19] <philikon> well i sure wish i could see that email
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# [03:19] <philikon> i didn't realize zimbra is hosted in MTV
# [03:19] <markh> I guess you can see the lights though :)
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# [03:35] <bbondy> If I want these 2 targets added to the oak twig: "Armv7a ICS optBN, Armv7a ICS debug" should I file a bug to RelEng or server ops?
# [03:36] <bbondy> for tbpl results on pushes
# [03:36] <philor> releng
# [03:36] <bbondy> thx
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# [03:45] <billm> does anyone know why the MV power outage caused the tree to close?
# [03:46] <zzzzz> massive fail of build machines/test machines
# [03:46] <coop|buildduty> billm: no mobile test coverage
# [03:46] <Callek> billm: if nothing more, all android test machines are in MV
# [03:46] <Callek> but many other machines as well
# [03:47] * zzzzz wonders who grabbed the wrong extension-cord to power up his laptop on the patio :P
# [03:47] <Callek> zzzzz: thatd be me sorry, you didn;t cook enough food for me to stay and eat, so I left
# [03:47] <zzzzz> :)
# [03:47] <billm> Callek, coop|buildduty: the reason I ask is that I broke gmail in the previous nightly and I'd like to check in a fix before the next one gets built. is there an ETA for when the tree will reopen?
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# [03:48] <Callek> billm: *hopefully* within the next 1 to 2 hours, the colo has power, we're just waiting on IT to give us an all-clear as far as machines being restored on their infra end, then a bit longer for us to restore some services on the releng side....
# [03:48] <philor> billm: not to worry, we all disabled ionmonkey ;)
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# [03:48] <Callek> billm: (s/colo/office/)
# [03:48] <billm> Callek: ok, thanks
# [03:49] * philor writes the note he was going to remember to write to reenable it tomorrow
# [03:49] <Callek> billm: I can plan on pinging you when we reopen if you like, and if you have to head out I can also watch the tree [or land] if you tell me
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# [03:51] <billm> Callek: ok, a ping would be great. I should be around for the next couple hours.
# [03:51] <billm> thanks
# [03:51] <RyanVM> billm: I'm going to be merging to m-c in a bit
# [03:51] <RyanVM> want me to take it as a ride-along?
# [03:52] <RyanVM> probably the best bet for getting it in tomorrow's nightly
# [03:52] <billm> RyanVM: couldn't I just land on m-c after that? I thought nightlies weren't built until early morning pacific time.
# [03:52] <billm> RyanVM: I'm still waiting for a build to finish so I can actually test gmail
# [03:52] <RyanVM> sure
# [03:52] <philor> RyanVM just loves to cram as many different things into one push as possible
# [03:52] <RyanVM> was just going to save you the trouble
# [03:53] <RyanVM> philor: it's my specialty :P
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# [04:12] <RyanVM> any eta on the tree re-opening?
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# [04:14] <@khuey> we decided that we're going to stop this whole unit testing thing
# [04:14] <@khuey> and just do manual tests from now on
# [04:16] <markh> yeah, what have unit tests ever done for us?
# [04:16] <philikon> yeah. jerks.
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# [04:17] <RyanVM> markh: just a bunch of tree closures and backouts. what a pain
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# [04:17] <markh> yeah - getting too big for their boots, I reckon!
# [04:17] <nthomas> no firm ETA. IT has almost all the infra up, we're verifying as fast as we can
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# [04:19] <raymond> who needs testing, just write good code the first time around ;)
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# [04:26] <raymond> (of course that was a joke, testing is actually very useful.)
# [04:27] <jdm> it's too late. your joke is now official policy.
# [04:27] <markh> testing, smesting
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# [04:32] <RyanVM> oooo, pretttty
# [04:33] <Callek> RyanVM: me, don't worry
# [04:33] <Callek> I can help retrigger when stuff is back up properly
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# [04:33] <RyanVM> so colorful!
# [04:33] <jlin> jdm: quickdraw
# [04:33] <RyanVM> hopefully we can get some red, orange, and green in the retriggers
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# [04:58] * @bz can't understand why the weird scrolling on tbpl is there. :(
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# [04:59] <@bz> aha!
# [04:59] <@bz> Now I can reproduce it
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# [05:03] <@bz> RyanVM: so this tbpl scrolling thing is _not_ a recent gecko regression
# [05:03] <@bz> RyanVM: which means it must be a tbpl change....
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# [05:03] <RyanVM> very possible
# [05:03] <RyanVM> some changes were pushed recently
# [05:04] <@bz> RyanVM: and now I know how to reproduce
# [05:04] <@bz> RyanVM: hmm. Link me, if you have it offhand?
# [05:04] <RyanVM> bug 794538
# [05:05] <@bz> thanks
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# [05:05] <Callek> RyanVM: I want to see a few tegra jobs come in before I declare all-clear, but we should be up now
# [05:05] <@bz> yeah
# [05:05] <@bz> fx4 does the same thing
# [05:05] <RyanVM> Callek: argh, it's 11 here
# [05:05] <RyanVM> though I suppose it is for you too :P
# [05:05] <RyanVM> heh
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# [05:06] <Callek> RyanVM: yes -- if you do a merge I'm willing to watch tree
# [05:06] <Callek> I have to work tonight until ~midnight
# [05:06] <RyanVM> great
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# [05:06] <@khuey> is the tree open?
# [05:07] <@bz> RyanVM: do you know whether there's a way I can run old tbpl revs locally?
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# [05:07] <@bz> RyanVM: in an attempt to bisect on changes to tbpl?
# [05:07] <RyanVM> yes, you can run it locally
# [05:07] <RyanVM> there's directions in the readme
# [05:07] <@bz> perfect, thanks
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# [05:08] <RyanVM> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mstange_themasta.com/tinderboxpushlog/
# [05:08] <@bz> yes
# [05:08] <@bz> I got that from the bug you linked. ;)
# [05:08] <russ> is there a good way to write a unit test for performance?
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# [05:12] <Callek> khuey, RyanVM, billm: just going in to open trees now -- green tegra jobs should be [beginning to be] hitting TBPL [try] in moments
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# [05:12] <Callek> RyanVM: did not yet do any retriggers
# [05:12] <RyanVM> :woowoo:
# [05:13] <Callek> nthomas: I'm on treestatus opening
# [05:14] <RyanVM> there's a "I'm in ur base" joke there somewhere
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# [05:15] <kg> hey guys, myself and a friend are trying to work on bug #770564. We're having a little trouble understanding it and the root of the problem. Any advice?
# [05:15] <@bz> hrm
# [05:15] <@bz> it's scrolling around a ways back. :(
# [05:15] <@bz> maybe this is not a regression after all....
# [05:16] <@bz> or at least not anything recent
# [05:16] <Callek> RyanVM, khuey, nthomas, billm: all tree's reoppened, please be nice
# [05:16] <RyanVM> too late for that :P
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# [05:20] <Callek> RyanVM: need me to retrigger or are you/someone on it for those ruined tegra jobs?
# [05:20] <nthomas> maybe a sendchange ?
# [05:20] <nthomas> since it's the whole set
# [05:20] <RyanVM> i can retrigger
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# [05:20] <RyanVM> nthomas: that sounds better
# [05:20] <RyanVM> otherwise, probably easiest to just trigger a new build
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# [05:20] <RyanVM> actually, is it worth it?
# [05:20] <RyanVM> the last few pushes were backouts anyway
# [05:21] <RyanVM> so we're effectively just testing somehting that was already tested
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# [05:21] <nthomas> up to you, android builds are quick
# [05:21] <RyanVM> i'm inclined to just star them and let them be unless anyone else feels strongly about it
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# [05:23] <@roc> kg: today is ... not a good day :-). If no-one helps, try again next week
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# [05:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c59ce185898 - Chris Jones - Bug 794727: Translate asynchronously-animated transforms by the offset to their reference frame when sampling. r=mattwoodrow
# [05:25] <philor> hmm, so why did we bother to close at all?
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# [05:26] <Callek> philor: so we didn't eat up tons of untested changes for android
# [05:26] * Callek forgot his philor-sarcasm filter at home, btw...
# [05:27] <RyanVM> philor: if you want to retrigger, I will
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# [05:27] <RyanVM> just not sure it's worth it
# [05:27] * @khuey debates whether to check in tonight
# [05:27] <philor> no worries, we tested Android just... 7 hours ago, should still be good
# [05:28] <Callek> khuey: if your change needs to go somewhere other than try or inbound, I can watch tree for you once you leave if you tell me and you checkin within the next 15 min
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# [05:28] <philor> and it's 8pm Pacific, 11pm Eastern, if we've got Android bustage it isn't going to be us having to deal with it :D
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# [05:33] <RyanVM> welp, that didn't take long
# [05:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b30bd7055fcb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 93b39d0f7d17 for build bustage.
# [05:36] <RyanVM> though in retrospect, that could have just been a spot fix
# [05:36] <RyanVM> oh well, it's late
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# [05:49] <tbsaunde> bz: any idea were I should break in a debugger to try and see why we don't throw for callign a method on the XMLHttpRequest prototype?
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# [05:53] <tbsaunde> bz: err, s/method/property/ if your still up
# [05:54] <Callek> tbsaunde: if he's home its about quarter-to-midnight incase you weren't sure ;-)
# [05:54] <Callek> but I have no idea what timezone his mind is in
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# [05:55] <tbsaunde> Callek: yeah, I know I'm in that timezone two :)
# [05:56] <Callek> tbsaunde: s/two/too/ :-P
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# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88b7b8f8ca78 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 787420 - Part 1/2: support set/get preferred network type, r=philikon
# [05:56] <Callek> bah I became a grammar troll, when did that happen
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# [06:18] <philor> Callek: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15612679&tree=Firefox wouldn't surprise me most of the time, but as the very first Android result in hours, kinda makes me nervous
# [06:19] <philor> well, not quite the very first
# [06:19] <Callek> philor: |remoteFailed: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): <class 'twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost'>: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion.| in reboot.py worries you?
# [06:19] <philor> only right now
# [06:20] <philor> and it looks like a fairly broken tegra anyway, so probably not
# [06:20] <Callek> philor: and https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent?numbuilds=10000 sorted by end-time doesn't worry me much
# [06:21] <philor> woo, and checkin-needed left us other bustage, sweet
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# [06:21] <philor> that was a nice long opening
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# [06:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22df14239cfb - Hubert Figuière - Bug 795162 - Use systemlibs.js for WifiWorker. r=philikon
# [06:22] <philor> how did you do that, after I had already closed it?
# [06:23] <philor> ah, beat me by 4 seconds
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# [06:23] <hub> oh shit did I push on closed tree?
# [06:23] <Callek> hub: technically no
# [06:23] <Callek> hub: but philor was closing it for inbound bustage
# [06:23] <philor> nope, you pushed on a tree that closed 4 seconds later, best push evar!
# [06:23] <hub> wow
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# [06:23] <philor> hmm
# [06:23] <hub> I should have played loto
# [06:23] <@dolske> like a boss
# [06:23] <philor> Andrea, maybe?
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# [06:24] <philor> oh, and I have to account for Windows build bustage too, so maybe three different things?
# [06:25] <philor> so jlebar for sure, Andrea maybe, and...
# [06:26] <philor> and nfi, maybe build system bustage requiring yet another Windows clobber
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# [06:26] <philor> so, pending any better advice, I'm going to set Windows to clobber, back out those two, and leave the tree closed waiting for a Windows build, so pretty much the rest of the US evening
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# [06:28] <philor> given http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html I'm a little surprised I'm backing out Andrea, though
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# [06:34] <philor> oh, didn't look far enough down in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b24a73b2c617, that's the Windows build bustage too
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# [06:45] <@roc> tbsaunde: are you still around?
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# [06:50] <tbsaunde> roc: hi
# [06:50] <tbsaunde> roc: what's up?
# [06:50] <@roc> test_imagemap.html has been intermittently failing
# [06:51] <@roc> and with DLBI it consistently fails
# [06:51] <@roc> I can reproduce the failure locally
# [06:51] <@roc> but I don't understand the accessibility code very well, nor the test
# [06:51] <tbsaunde> roc: this is bug 745788?
# [06:51] <@roc> yep
# [06:51] <@roc> I can reproduce it 10)%
# [06:51] <@roc> er
# [06:51] <@roc> 100%!
# [06:52] <tbsaunde> roc: ok, I think surkov has been looking at that a bit, but I can look and see if I can help you
# [06:53] <@roc> we generally get to "Invoke the 'insert map element' test" and then hang
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# [06:54] <@roc> this appears to be what runs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/tests/mochitest/treeupdate/test_imagemap.html?force=1#311
# [06:55] <@roc> so that code creates a <map> with an <area> child and inserts it into the document
# [06:56] <tbsaunde> roc: yeah, and then it expects we'll update the accessible tree in response
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# [06:56] <tbsaunde> but aparently we don't
# [06:57] <@roc> do you know what code is responsible for generating the EVENT_HIDE event in response to the <map> being created? I guess we're hiding the image which is now part of the imagemap
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# [06:57] <@roc> but i can't find the logic in the accessibility code that determines that
# [06:58] <tbsaunde> roc: nsAccessibilityService::UpdateImageMap() I think
# [06:58] <@roc> ah, thanks!
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# [07:01] <@roc> OK I think this could be a DLBI regression then
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# [07:02] <tbsaunde> roc: np, note you may get some useful logging out of setting A11YLOG to something like tree,events and iirc surkov put a patch in the bug to add logging for DocAccessible::RecreateAccessible() which may help
# [07:02] <@roc> thanks
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# [07:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0c8f93e588c - Mark Hammond - Bug 794742 - add a charset to data: urls to reduce test noise. r=jaws
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# [07:19] <@roc> tbsaunde: I will need you to review a patch for me in a minute :-)
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# [07:21] <tbsaunde> roc: ok, sure
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# [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1949b59f3d12 - Karl Tomlinson - b=795144 default disable using GnomeUI and GnomeVFS for themed icons r=glandium
# [07:22] <@roc> tbsaunde: request submitted :-)
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# [07:25] <@roc> BTW, we could use that review "right now" :-)
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# [07:25] <philor> hmm
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# [07:31] <tbsaunde> roc: yeah, took a few minutes since I'm tired but r=me without the printfs of course
# [07:31] <@roc> oh yeah
# [07:31] <@roc> sure
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# [07:42] <dholbert> gps, ping
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# [07:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/182c763efa68 - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 776832 - Add a scriptable API to assert app permissions through messagemanager. r=smaug
# [07:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52be204da1cf - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 776663 - Assert permissions for WebTelephony and MobileConnection access. r=cjones
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# [07:59] <philor> wtf is up with the Mac reftest pink pixel of death?
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# [08:07] <Callek> pink is the new orange
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# [08:21] <gps> dholbert: pong
# [08:21] <dholbert> gps, RE that g++ 4.7 warning parsing bug
# [08:21] <dholbert> gps, do you know what distinguishes whether a build will use relative vs. absolute paths?
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# [08:22] <gps> dholbert: typically it's how you define MOZ_OBJDIR in your mozconfig
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# [08:22] <dholbert> gps, gotcha, ok -- I did have OBJDIR=SRCDIR/../obj or something
# [08:22] <gps> I do mine as such: mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/objdir
# [08:23] <gps> i might also have to do with how the build is launched. I can't recall exactly. "it's complicated"
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# [08:46] <Optimizer> Yoric: Hi
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# [08:50] <Yoric> Optimizer: semi-hi
# [08:50] <Optimizer> leaving ?
# [08:51] <@smaug> why am I awake so early
# [08:51] * Optimizer finally my spell worked!
# [08:51] <Optimizer> Yoric: is OS.File usable from main thread now ?
# [08:52] <Yoric> Yes :)
# [08:52] <Optimizer> Ah :)
# [08:52] <Optimizer> any docs yet ?
# [08:52] <Yoric> I am planning to blog about it Monday.
# [08:52] <Optimizer> oh nice
# [08:52] <Optimizer> is it because of the atomic read write bugs that landed ?
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# [08:53] <Optimizer> any plans to port it to aurora ?
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# [08:55] <Yoric> Atomic r/w makes it usable :)
# [08:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/005ccc9a2f2f - Michael Wu - Bug 794598: Fix antenna detection in FMRadio.cpp. r=cjones
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# [08:56] <Optimizer> Yoric: So I will be te first one to use it in an add-on :)
# [08:57] <Yoric> Sounds great :)
# [08:57] <Optimizer> I will be shortly adding a saving to file feature in Timeline, so will use OS.File
# [08:57] <Optimizer> since anyways it uses another feature that is introduced in Fx 18 only
# [08:57] <Optimizer> :P
# [08:57] <Yoric> I am sure that there are still a few bugs to be ironed out, I am counting on you to help me find them :)
# [08:58] <Optimizer> heh :)
# [08:58] <Optimizer> so will be looking forward to your blog
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# [09:17] <Yoric> Back to sleep
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# [09:27] <mjrosenb> hey, on tbpl, is there any way to access all of the built files (e.g. the shell produced by building for android?)
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# [09:36] <Callek> mjrosenb: what do you mean by "the shell produced by building for android"?
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# [09:40] <mjrosenb> in $OBJDIR/js/src/shell/js lives a js shell
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# [09:59] <mjrosenb> Callek: any idea?
# [09:59] <Callek> mjrosenb: the tests.zip should have it
# [09:59] <mjrosenb> Callek: oh, really?
# [10:00] <Callek> mjrosenb: iirc anyway
# [10:00] <Callek> mjrosenb: if you don't see it, best place to ask is in #mobile, likely during US-daytime
# [10:01] <mjrosenb> this seems more like a tbpl thing than a mobile thing
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# [10:15] <mjrosenb> capella: js shell, it is a small interactive wrapper that we tossed around the js library to test it easier
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# [10:17] <capella> in my android build objdir ive got the $OBJDIR/js/src/shell/js you refer to above (?)
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# [10:17] <capella> whats the part about tbpl?
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# [10:18] <capella> (just curious - may or may not be able to help you)
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# [10:18] <mjrosenb> capella: we started running armv6 builds on tbpl, and I can download a .apk from the build, but as far as I can tell, that is all I can download, not a shell
# [10:18] <capella> ah! starts to see
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# [10:19] <mjrosenb> I can probably build it myself, but it is tricky, and there is a decent chance that I'd build something slightly different from the shell that we build on tbpl
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# [10:20] <Callek> mjrosenb: ahhh... http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/latest-mozilla-central-android-armv6/
# [10:21] <Callek> mjrosenb: vs. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/latest-mozilla-central-android/
# [10:22] <Callek> mjrosenb: note that neither have an explicit jsshell upload, but there should be stuff in the tests.zip for each that correspond, iirc
# [10:22] <Callek> mjrosenb: of course, unlike on desktop builds, mobile builds don't run those xpcshell/jsshell stuff directly for their tests
# [10:22] <mjrosenb> yeah, i unzipped tests.zip, and there were a bunch of js directories
# [10:22] <mjrosenb> but no js executables
# [10:23] <Callek> mjrosenb: |find . -name xpcshell\*|
# [10:23] <Callek> should give you where to look
# [10:23] <Callek> infact, let me look as well
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# [10:25] <Callek> mjrosenb: xpcshell is in ./bin
# [10:25] <Callek> there
# [10:25] <Callek> mjrosenb: I have no idea why you need the jsshell though, explicitly for armv6
# [10:26] <Callek> mjrosenb: and this is *not* a tbpl thing, and #mobile is teh right place
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# [10:26] <Callek> tbpl just interprets the build results
# [10:27] <mjrosenb> Callek: I just tracked down a bug in the armv6 builds that *should* have shown up as soon as they were turned on, but for whatever reason, it almost never hits
# [10:27] <mjrosenb> i fear the worst, and am looking into why this bug never got hit
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# [10:27] <Callek> mjrosenb: fwiw, our automation wasn't testing on armv6 devices
# [10:27] <Callek> mjrosenb: we're testing the armv6 builds on armv7 devices though
# [10:28] <mjrosenb> I ran my own tests
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# [10:28] <mjrosenb> and this bug should have hit both armv6 and armv6-running-on-armv7
# [10:28] <Callek> mjrosenb: see Bug 793740 for the Armv6-on-Armv7 issue we *just* corrected
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# [10:29] <Callek> mjrosenb: and yea, if you have a real bug, your investigating, best to chat it up in #mobile
# [10:29] <Callek> ...during USA daytime
# [10:29] <mjrosenb> Callek: yup, guess who reviewed that patch :-p
# [10:29] <Callek> (right now its 1am PT, and 4am ET)
# [10:29] <Callek> mjrosenb: ooo duh ;-)
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# [10:30] <Callek> anyway, I'm heading off to sleep
# [10:30] <Callek> I have to be around in 7 hours to begin a downtime
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# [10:30] <Callek> [well not-tree-closing-downtime]
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# [10:30] <edmorley> mjrosenb: TBPL is just a UI, "buildbot" is what schedules the build, and if the files you need aren't available using the "go to build directory" link on TBPL (bottom left of the UI, after clicking on whichever build), then you'll need releng to give you access to the buildslave
# [10:31] <Callek> edmorley: and fwiw, "access to a buildslave" isn't quite the easiest for him to get the same file, since the armv6 builds are done inside mock ;-)
# [10:31] <edmorley> (though I suspect I've missed some context thorugh only having recently joined the channel)
# [10:31] <Callek> but yea, he should chat with mobile, to find out if what he needs is available somehow
# [10:31] <edmorley> Callek: ah, true
# [10:31] <Callek> otherwise, we [releng] can be sure to upload what he needs, with mobile-team signoff
# [10:32] <Callek> ;-)
# [10:32] <Callek> and then worse-case is access-to-machine
# [10:32] <mjrosenb> i've asked in #mobile, but as you said, it is late
# [10:32] <mjrosenb> i'll just build it myself, and hope to dear god whatever caused this to not fail caused also happens on my build
# [10:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96faff88d792 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 794766 - B2G Telephony: phone is hanging after a busy call is released by operator. r=philikon
# [10:33] <Callek> mjrosenb: are you using the same NDK/stuff as the official build
# [10:33] <Callek> thats the first thought
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# [10:33] <mjrosenb> i have like 4 ndk's installed
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# [10:33] <mjrosenb> i try to use the same one as the build
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# [10:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85a545c8cd49 - Justin Dolske - Bug 784909 - Add support for app-provided HiDPI mouse pointer/cursor. r=josh
# [10:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3b635cad2d8 - Justin Dolske - Bug 792592 - Need HiDPI versions of our custom OS X cursors. images=shorlander r=me
# [10:38] <@dolske> uhhh
# [10:38] <@dolske> abort: empty revision set
# [10:38] <@dolske> warning: post-push hook exited with status 255
# [10:38] <@dolske> O_o
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# [10:39] <@dolske> both changeset look legit. wonder what that meant.
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# [10:40] <heycam> do you have the hg phases hook thing?
# [10:41] <heycam> I get the same message when I push to non-try repos now because of that
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# [10:45] <@dolske> ah, yeah
# [10:46] <@dolske> fix one problem, create another. ;)
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# [10:56] <Standard8> glandium: hah, so having backed down on the gtk requirement, bug 713802 now busts us as well ;-)
# [10:56] <Standard8> glandium: this time I think I'm going to lean on releng for those upgraded builders ;-)
# [10:56] <Standard8> I know they have been working on them for us
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# [11:02] <hsivonen> huh. why are charsets atoms on nsIDocShell?
# [11:03] <Standard8> edmorley: where are we with the MOTD stuff on treestatus/tbpl?
# [11:03] <edmorley> Standard8: waiting for catlee review aiui
# [11:04] * edmorley forgets
# [11:04] <edmorley> oh it landed
# [11:04] <Standard8> yeah, bt not on treestatus itself I think
# [11:04] <edmorley> I think the DB ALTER needed running and then a push to prod
# [11:05] <edmorley> sorry, by "it" I meant the treestatus part
# [11:05] <edmorley> I think it's on dev
# [11:05] <Standard8> probably, I suspect catlee
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# [11:06] <Standard8> so, I have a fork on github, how on earth do I update my local copy of my fork to match catlee's master?
# [11:06] <edmorley> no idea; git noob
# [11:06] <Standard8> yeah, this is one of the reasons I don't like git
# [11:06] <edmorley> used it for the first time the other day and managed to change every line ending on commit (after having checked the diff :/)
# [11:07] <edmorley> https://treestatus-dev.allizom.org/ is busted btw
# [11:07] <edmorley> presume due to lack of ALTER
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# [11:08] <Standard8> all I want to do is increase the width of the reason field
# [11:08] <edmorley> Standard8: http://bradlyfeeley.com/2008/09/03/update-a-github-fork-from-the-original-repo/
# [11:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1b8d9b1b7f0 - Cameron McCormack - Backout 6786b5f4ee4a (bug 655877 part 44), since it shouldn't've landed before the patch creating the pref.
# [11:09] <edmorley> Standard8: I must admit as well, I've kind of forgotten about treestatus work since it's not tracked on bugzilla so doesn't appear in my saved searches
# [11:09] <Standard8> heh
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# [11:14] <@smaug> hsivonen: how hard would it be to change XML parsing to work more like HTML parsing. Notifying sanely and perhaps even off main thread parsing
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# [11:16] <glandium> Standard8: you should be able to pass the right flags to m-c's configure
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# [11:17] <glandium> Standard8: just change your mozconfig to enable-gnomevfs, and disable-gio
# [11:19] <Standard8> yesh could do
# [11:19] <Standard8> still want releng to upgrade us ;-)
# [11:20] <Standard8> ok, how did I install git on this mac
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# [11:21] <Standard8> maybe via their installer...
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# [11:37] <Standard8> edmorley: what do you think of doubling the width of the reason field?
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# [11:39] <mounir> m-i is terrible :(
# [11:40] <@smaug> use m-c ;)
# [11:41] <edmorley> Standard8: now that TBPL linkifies bugs & we have motd on the way, I guess the pressure is taken off the reason field; but I suppose having a much longer than needed field wouldn't hurt, given the DB isn't exactly large
# [11:42] <Standard8> It linkifies bugs?
# [11:42] <Standard8> is that active?
# [11:42] <edmorley> yes
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# [11:43] <edmorley> Standard8: bug 789576
# [11:43] <Standard8> oooh nice
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# [11:44] <Standard8> Certainly nice, but the field is still a little short for things like Due to needing to upgrade the Linux builders (Bug 794378)
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# [11:45] <edmorley> Standard8: what's the current width
# [11:45] <Standard8> edmorley: size=30
# [11:46] <edmorley> yeah then doubling sounds fine
# [11:46] <edmorley> and works for your example above
# [11:47] <Standard8> well currently it does fit in a few more chars than 30
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# [12:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d0dcc53da1b - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 764234 - Fix tests for multi-byte encodings. r=dougt
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# [12:42] <mounir> michal: ping
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# [12:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea992245125c - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 794891 - Don't reorder expected failures in parseFailures.py; r=Ms2ger
# [12:47] <AryehGregor> edmorley, do you know what's up with the red/purple on the builds here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=84eb6d476b98
# [12:47] <AryehGregor> Do they look like my fault?
# [12:48] <mounir> AryehGregor: purples are not your fault
# [12:48] <mounir> AryehGregor: red might be
# [12:48] <mounir> hmm, maybe not
# [12:48] <mounir> try a rebuild
# [12:48] <AryehGregor> You mean, purple is never my fault?
# [12:48] <mounir> AryehGregor: no, in that case, it's clearly not your fault
# [12:48] <AryehGregor> Try a rebuild on the red?
# [12:48] <edmorley> mounir: that's not quite correct
# [12:48] <mounir> there is a bug for that
# [12:48] <AryehGregor> Which?
# [12:48] * AryehGregor is confused now
# [12:48] <edmorley> AryehGregor: the purples are fixed on trunk now
# [12:48] <AryehGregor> Ah, okay.
# [12:48] <edmorley> the b2g no idea
# [12:48] <mounir> but I will let edmorley deal with you :)
# [12:49] <AryehGregor> Okay, I triggered rebuilds for the red.
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# [12:49] <edmorley> mounir: sadly the purples are not always correct; particularly on windows
# [12:49] <AryehGregor> I'd expect possible platform-specific build errors from this patch, but not "Python.h: No such file or directory".
# [12:49] <edmorley> AryehGregor: perhaps push rebased to tip on just those platforms?
# [12:49] <AryehGregor> Well, I'll see how the rebuilds go.
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# [12:50] <michal> mounir: pong
# [12:50] <mounir> michal: I'm trying to get bug 777445 running an desktop
# [12:50] <mounir> to write the DOM API glue
# [12:51] <mounir> but it doesn't seem to work :(
# [12:51] <mounir> I just have to change the pref value, right?
# [12:51] <michal> Yes, but you must then restart firefox
# [12:51] <mounir> which I did
# [12:51] <michal> what doesn't work?
# [12:52] <mounir> michal: the window doesn't receive the notification
# [12:52] <mounir> michal: I guess i should check if the notifications are really sent
# [12:52] <michal> mounir: I didn't test notifications, I just put printf at the place when we send the notifications...
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# [13:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f476b4ac1e1 - Raymond Lee - Bug 762966 - Reset homepage pref for users who have it set to google.com/firefox. r=dao
# [13:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba4503866ce8 - Leonard Camacho - Bug 524025 - Remove LL_* constants in nsLineLayout with separate booleans with field widths. r=dbaron
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# [13:13] <mounir> michal: i suspect the pref to be read too early
# [13:14] <mounir> I mean, I always get 0
# [13:14] <michal> mounir: you've changed the pref using about:config? Or did you change it in all.js?
# [13:15] <@roc> dao: that was quick!
# [13:15] <mounir> michal: I used about:config
# [13:15] <@roc> dao: thank you!
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# [13:15] <michal> mounir: Could you please try to change it in all.js to check if it works?
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# [13:20] <mounir> michal: oh...
# [13:20] <mounir> even if I change all.js
# [13:20] <mounir> michal: anyway, I can work around this locally to write my patch
# [13:22] <mounir> michal: ... I forgot to repackage all.js actually :)
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# [13:23] <michal> mounir: OK, so what is the result? It works, if the change is in all.js and doesn't if it is just in prefs.js in profile?
# [13:23] <mounir> michal: yes
# [13:24] <mounir> it takes changes from all.js but not the user prefs
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# [13:29] <edmorley> yuck, orange count on trunk is appalling right now
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# [13:31] <michal> mounir: are you OK to fix this in a folloup bug? I'd like to land the current patch soon...
# [13:33] <mounir> michal: yes, I'm fine with that
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# [13:33] <mounir> ... this said, it might be hard to write tests because of that :-/
# [13:33] <mounir> unless we change the pref in the test profile pref file
# [13:33] <mounir> will see
# [13:34] <michal> I'm going to land it and then I'll try to fix this issue ASAP...
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# [13:36] <AryehGregor> What's Armv7a ICS for the purposes of try syntax?
# [13:36] <mounir> michal: LGTM
# [13:36] <AryehGregor> android? android-armv6? Something that's not in trychooser?
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# [13:43] <AryehGregor> edmorley, ^ ?
# [13:44] * AryehGregor could do -p all and cancel most of them, perhaps
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# [13:44] <edmorley> AryehGregor: it's not in trychooser I don't believe, you just have to cancel, sorry
# [13:44] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [13:45] <edmorley> firebot: bug 767501
# [13:45] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767501 nor, P3, ---, catlee, NEW, Try chooser doesn't work with new b2g builds
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# [14:31] <NeilAway> JesperHansen: System process is used by device drivers and kernel (e.g. system cache)
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# [14:32] <JesperHansen> sure makes resource monitor useless when you want to know what programs is writing massively to disk when everything is written by that and not the actual processes
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# [14:35] <AryehGregor> JesperHansen, that's a general problem with I/O, not just in Windows. It's not trivial at all to attribute I/O to the correct process.
# [14:35] <AryehGregor> Writes from different processes can be merged, for instance.
# [14:36] <AryehGregor> Things like journal writes are almost inevitably going to be from multiple processes together.
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# [14:37] <AryehGregor> I'm not sure the kernel necessary knows what process is responsible for a write to an mmap'd page, either.
# [14:37] <JesperHansen> that seems unsafe
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# [14:38] <AryehGregor> Also, dirty pages might be written in response to memory pressure, in which case the real process you want to blame is the one that caused the memory pressure, but that's basically impossible.
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# [14:39] <AryehGregor> And what if one process calls sync()? It's really at fault for the possibly large amount of synchronous I/O that will be forced, which might have been much less had they sat in buffers for a while (due to write combining), but the processes that did the write()s will be blamed.
# [14:39] <AryehGregor> iotop on Linux is often not so useful either, depending.
# [14:39] <AryehGregor> CPU accounting is really easy; accounting for I/O and memory is a lot trickier.
# [14:40] <AryehGregor> Disk accounting is also a headache if you use COW (similar to memory accounting).
# [14:40] <AryehGregor> Disk space accounting, I mean.
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# [14:41] <mcsmurf> can someone explain http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/895f66c4eada/browser/components/shell/src/nsGNOMEShellService.cpp to me? Those "David Anderson - Merge from mozilla-central." lines
# [14:41] <AryehGregor> Really, CPU accounting is not necessarily trivial either if you account for hyperthreading, but the OS mostly just pretends that doesn't exist, so that's fine.
# [14:41] <mcsmurf> does this mean something changed or not? I'm confused a bit..
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# [14:46] <mcsmurf> or this some two-way merge from some dev "branch"?
# [14:46] <mcsmurf> I cannot follow FF these days that much, so I think I've missed something here
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# [14:47] <AryehGregor> mcsmurf, generically, that means m-c was merged into something that was merged back into m-c, yes. For instance, that happens constantly with m-i, although I think usually those have commit messages of "Merge m-i to m-c" or such (at least I hope they do).
# [14:47] <AryehGregor> I dunno specifically.
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# [14:48] <mcsmurf> so I have to look at that "branch" to get a better changelog for that file? *sigh*
# [14:48] <mcsmurf> though there is no hint where those changes are coming from
# [14:48] <mcsmurf> this is really bad IMHO
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# [14:51] <mcsmurf> duh http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=ae68e6c539a2 doesn't load that's the changeset for one such merge commit
# [14:51] <mcsmurf> this sucks
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# [14:51] <mcsmurf> oh, now it does
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# [14:52] <mcsmurf> not very useful
# [14:52] <edmorley> mcsmurf: you don't have to load that branch; the whole point of merging repositories is that history is shared
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# [14:56] <mcsmurf> hm..so let's say on that file I mentioned there are two commits with comment "Merge from mozilla-central"
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# [14:56] <mcsmurf> this means something changed in that file on mozilla-central, is that right?
# [14:56] <edmorley> mcsmurf: no
# [14:56] <mcsmurf> duh
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# [14:57] <edmorley> mcsmurf: when repo A and repo B merge, they now share history
# [14:57] <mcsmurf> ok, when I look at that changeset anyway, it displays some change in that file
# [14:57] <mfinkle> m-c says it has 1 unstarred, but i can't find it
# [14:57] <edmorley> mcsmurf: so whilst the original merge may have been from repo A to repo B; once repo B merges back to A; then both will have the commit message with whichever string the merger chose to use
# [14:57] <mfinkle> is there an easy way to locate it?
# [14:57] <edmorley> mfinkle: press 'k'
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# [14:57] <edmorley> mfinkle: 'next unstarred'
# [14:58] <mfinkle> thanks
# [14:58] <mcsmurf> so that change I see in that changeset is then from the other branch
# [14:58] <mcsmurf> s/from/on
# [14:58] <mcsmurf> ?
# [14:58] <edmorley> mcsmurf: the "merge" log entries are where the file was changed on two different repos at the same time, and meruciral had to perform conflict resolution
# [14:58] <edmorley> mfinkle: np
# [14:58] <mcsmurf> this is complicated..
# [14:58] <mcsmurf> did we really have to do this ;)
# [14:59] <mfinkle> edmorley: are we really making AndroidNoIon nightlies?
# [14:59] <edmorley> mfinkle: were attempting to; but they are busted
# [14:59] <edmorley> we're
# [15:00] <mcsmurf> :O loading such a big hg changset in the browser consumes memory like crazy
# [15:00] <bhearsum> i think that fix is coming soon
# [15:00] * Pike reads that as "neKst unstarred"
# [15:00] <edmorley> bug filed, patch awaiting review/landing or somesuch
# [15:00] <bhearsum> (for the noion nightlies)
# [15:00] <mfinkle> bhearsum: bug # ?
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# [15:00] <bhearsum> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795026
# [15:00] <bhearsum> checked in, waiting on reconfig
# [15:00] <mfinkle> k
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# [15:01] <Pike> mcsmurf: hg's not elegant in showing merge changesets, best is to use a local clone, and manually diff the file you want against either heads, and then usually it makes more sense
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# [15:01] <edmorley> the state of our mochitest-other results is pretty sad faces
# [15:01] <Pike> it at least tells you which parent has the change that's going in to that merge
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# [15:01] <bhearsum> edmorley: a result of splitting it up?
# [15:01] <edmorley> the orange-rate in that suite along has spiked considerably over the last week
# [15:01] <edmorley> bhearsum: it hasn't been yet
# [15:01] <bhearsum> huh
# [15:01] <edmorley> s/along/alone/
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# [15:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7fffa1ef35d9 - Mark Finkle - Backout c1003f039c77, breaks Fennec startup (bug 794731)
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# [15:09] <@roc> what do we have to do to get the tree open again?
# [15:09] <edmorley> philikon: ping
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# [15:09] <cjones> "intermittent orange is intermittent"
# [15:09] <edmorley> roc: wait for retriggers and likely back philikon out (judging by the results that have come back so far)
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# [15:13] <@roc> mattwoodrow has a couple of patches to land to fix orange from the DLBI landing. One he forgot to land, one that reverts something he did land that was bad.
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# [15:14] <@roc> we can either land those, or back out DLBI now and land it again later.
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# [15:16] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: ^^
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# [15:16] <edmorley> roc: you can land on the closed tree if that helps?
# [15:16] <cjones> i think that would help a lot
# [15:16] <edmorley> I'm backing philikon out now, but there are conflicts
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# [15:17] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: do I need CLOSED TREE on all csets, or just the top?
# [15:17] <cjones> which philikon patch?
# [15:17] <mattwoodrow> and I'll wait for you to back out
# [15:17] <cjones> just the last
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# [15:18] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: top; and thank you, pushing
# [15:18] <mattwoodrow> let me know when i'm good to go
# [15:19] <edmorley> cjones: this one https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=52be204da1cf
# [15:19] <firebot> Check-in:
# [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc9d251fdb2e - Ed Morley - Backout 52be204da1cf (bug 776663), 965397b043c0 (bug 777508), 182c763efa68 (bug 776832), a2a509184b07 & cba5ba69091f (bug 789973) for failures in
# [15:19] <firebot> test_child_process_shutdown_message.html and friends / conflicting with the backout on a CLOSED TREE
# [15:19] <cjones> edmorley, what do you think that caused?
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# [15:20] <mounir> cjones: frequent OS X m1 orange i believe
# [15:20] <edmorley> cjones: it caused https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15626544&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [15:20] <mounir> i was suspecting the patch to cause this earlier tomorrow
# [15:20] <mounir> s/tomorrow/this morning/
# [15:20] <cjones> i see a frequent os x m1 orange after dolske's push
# [15:20] <cjones> i don't see any between philikon's and dolske's
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# [15:21] <cjones> edmorley, yeah, that's a problem
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# [15:22] <cjones> "fatal should equal fatal"
# [15:22] <cjones> wtf
# [15:22] <edmorley> now to look at the linux m-oth failures
# [15:22] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: can I land?
# [15:22] <edmorley> yup
# [15:22] <cjones> how can that check fail
# [15:23] <joe> do armv6 test slaves not do backtraces when they find minidumps?
# [15:23] <joe> cjones: maybe it's like nan?
# [15:23] <mattwoodrow> joe: Apparently not
# [15:23] <mattwoodrow> I know what it is though
# [15:23] <joe> mattwoodrow: :(
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# [15:23] <joe> i'm investigating oranges on my try push
# [15:23] <mattwoodrow> ah
# [15:23] <cjones> edmorley, that's a totally different failure
# [15:23] <cjones> 152640 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/docshell/test/navigation/test_sessionhistory.html | Wrong document loaded!
# [15:23] <mattwoodrow> joe: I had to build locally and use gdb
# [15:23] <cjones> edmorley, it triggered our dumbass regexps
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# [15:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/385d57149939 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 539356 - Revert LayerTreeInvalidation changes to detect Image changes, landed on a CLOSED TREE. r=roc
# [15:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07914b108f91 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 539356 - Disable test_text.html on android since it crashes on armv6. r=roc
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# [15:24] <cjones> edmorley, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603685 is the bug you want
# [15:25] <cjones> we should fix those messages to avoid saying "error" and "failure"
# [15:25] <edmorley> cjones: it still needs to be fixed before it relands
# [15:25] <edmorley> I saw that bug
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# [15:31] <edmorley> cjones: that failure also occurs without the pre-existing orange https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15622813&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [15:33] <edmorley> cjones: oh, INFO TEST-PASS sorry my brain just trims the start of the failure lines now
# [15:33] <cjones> the actual failure there was https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775551
# [15:33] <edmorley> in that case, then yeah
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# [15:33] <cjones> it's fine, i'll reland
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# [15:34] <cjones> eventually
# [15:34] <edmorley> the string TBPL is matching is "fatal error", which is for errors during link
# [15:35] <edmorley> I'm not sure if we can "^fatal error" it maybe; need to find a link failure to compare on all platforms
# [15:35] <cjones> i'm just going to change it
# [15:36] <cjones> i wrote a parser that could do this but never finished it
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# [15:39] <dao> jfkthame: you seem to be setting review+ on patches containing changes that nobody looked at
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# [15:40] <jfkthame> dao: there've been several minor fixes to remaining issues in already-reviewed patches, we may want to go a further round of review yet though, it's true
# [15:40] <cjones> edmorley, so we're closed for dlbi now, right?
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# [15:41] <cjones> ok
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# [15:41] <dao> jfkthame: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?oldid=665857&action=interdiff&newid=665871&headers=1 is rather massive. we file whole bugs for smaller changes
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# [15:44] <jfkthame> dao: but i'm happy to send it back for r?, that's probably safest
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# [15:47] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: Bug 786626 has shown up twice since DLBI landed, so I might have increased the frequency of it
# [15:48] <mattwoodrow> I've just written a fix and got it reviewed
# [15:48] <mattwoodrow> not sure if you want me to land it now or not, just trying to cover my bases and save DLBI :)
# [15:48] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: awesome, thank you :-D
# [15:48] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: go for it :-)
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# [15:50] <mattwoodrow> hopefully that's one less orange going forward
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# [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84e550d568ce - Matt Woodrow - Bug 786626 - Initialize mLayerProgram. r=joe. landing on a CLOSED TREE
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# [16:04] <mgoodwin> Is anyone able to help me test e10s stuff?
# [16:04] <mgoodwin> I've made some changes to the impl of nsICookieService but I can't see a way of testing it
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# [16:10] <mounir> someone around knows how to simulate network traffic in a mochitest?
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# [16:11] <mgoodwin> mounir: what sort of network traffic?
# [16:11] <mounir> mgoodwin: something to simulate what is done in bug 777445
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# [16:11] <mounir> mgoodwin: which I believe would be anything
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# [16:11] <mounir> ideally http
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# [16:14] <mgoodwin> mounir: I'm not sure; presumably your standard http-to-example.com thing is lo0 traffic, but I don't know what that will do in terms of the indicator
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# [16:15] <mounir> mgoodwin: will try
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# [16:16] <mgoodwin> mounir: anything that's testing headers, etc. will suffice as an example, I guess
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# [16:20] <mounir> mgoodwin: what do you mean?
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# [16:21] <mounir> mgoodwin: if I open an iframe on example.com, I get an upload but no download :(
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# [16:22] <mgoodwin> mounir - you can simulate sending some data, I suppose
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# [16:23] <mgoodwin> mounir: e.g. tests have logic to test headers
# [16:23] <mgoodwin> content/base/test/file_bug498897.html^headers^
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# [16:24] <mgoodwin> I wonder if you can send a big-ish response via that mechanism?
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# [16:24] <joe> has anybody ever seen this error:
# [16:24] <joe> 2012-09-27 20:37:11.734 firefox-bin[352:903] invalid drawable
# [16:24] <joe> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/chrome/dom/tests/mochitest/chrome/test_focus.xul | Exited with code 1 during test run
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# [16:25] <joe> on OS X 10.6 Mother
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# [16:25] <joe> edmorley: ^
# [16:25] <mattwoodrow> joe: I've seen 'invalid drawable' locally plenty of times
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# [16:25] <joe> ah
# [16:25] <mgoodwin> mounir: hang on, that's not was I was looking for
# [16:25] <mattwoodrow> but not with a crash
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# [16:26] <edmorley> joe: log link?
# [16:26] <joe> edmorley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15612621&tree=Try&full=1#error0
# [16:26] <edmorley> ta
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# [16:28] <edmorley> joe: sorry, I haven't seen that before; (I've only seen that test time out, eg bug 621399)
# [16:28] <joe> edmorley: thanks for looking :)
# [16:28] <edmorley> np
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# [16:30] <mounir> mgoodwin: even when trying to load a sjs, i don't get a download blip
# [16:30] <mounir> maybe that's just not possible in mochitests?
# [16:31] <mgoodwin> ah, that's what I was about to suggest - so I don't know
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# [16:33] <mounir> mgoodwin: ...
# [16:33] <mounir> actually, loading mozilla.org redirects to a local server and works
# [16:33] <mounir> no idea why example.org does
# [16:34] <mgoodwin> ah... that's worth knowing
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# [16:34] <mgoodwin> If you find out why, please let me know ;)
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# [16:38] <mounir> mgoodwin: there is https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/pgo/server-locations.txt
# [16:38] <mounir> but the only difference between mozilla.org and example.org is the fact that the later is privileged
# [16:39] <mounir> maybe I did something wrong
# [16:39] <mounir> anyway, my test passes, I'm happy :)
# [16:39] <mounir> and with those crazy deadlines, don't really have time to check more
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# [16:43] <mgoodwin> mounir: thanks :)
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# [16:47] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: ok :-)
# [16:47] <mattwoodrow> looks like the Reftests failures and android M2 crash are gone on the top pushes
# [16:47] <mattwoodrow> so *hopefully* that's everything
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# [16:47] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: yeah looking good :-)
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# [16:47] <edmorley> pretty late for you
# [16:48] <mattwoodrow> little bit, but oh well
# [16:48] <edmorley> bet you're enjoying the thought of sleep :-)
# [16:48] <mattwoodrow> Didn't want to miss this
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# [16:53] <Ms2ger> gps, there was a bug for "UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 90: ordinal not in range(128)", I guess?
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# [17:03] <@ehsan> edmorley: ping
# [17:03] <edmorley> ehsan: hi
# [17:04] <@ehsan> edmorley: heya, how's the tree doing?
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# [17:04] <edmorley> almost ready
# [17:04] <edmorley> taking another look now
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# [17:04] <jwir3> what does mach stand for? just another spelling of "make"?
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# [17:04] <@ehsan> edmorley: cool
# [17:05] <@ehsan> jwir3: German for "do"
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# [17:05] <jwir3> ehsan: oho. cool. :)
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# [17:05] <@ehsan> I'd have really preferred us call it something better though
# [17:06] <@ehsan> something which doesn't lead to the question of "what does mach stand for?"
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# [17:07] <edmorley> inbound reopened
# [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3bb54c21a20 - Ed Morley - Bug 677841 - Disable test_resize_move_windows.html on Linux for too many intermittent failures
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# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26eb70f02c57 - Ed Morley - Bug 780863 - Disable test_bug270414.html on mobile for too many intermittent failures
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# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46eef90debaa - Ed Morley - Bug 752786 - Disable one part of test_bug469613.xul on OS X 10.8 for too many intermittent failures
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# [17:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64558e8ed723 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 794947 - Add check for lazy proto in ion code (r=dvander)
# [17:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10279bd74ee0 - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
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# [17:18] <edmorley> cjones: thank you for relanding that
# [17:18] <cjones> np!
# [17:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9386cf1dbde2 - Eric Chou - Bug 794469 - patch 1: OBEX related constants, data structures and basic functions, r=qdot
# [17:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3642f3259be6 - Eric Chou - Bug 794469 - patch 2: Implement sending "Connect" request, r=qdot
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# [17:27] <ddahl> is the best way to disable something via #ifdef on mac and win like this: #ifndef XP_WIN32 #ifndef DARWIN
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# [17:28] <Ms2ger> #if !defined() && !defined()
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# [17:28] <Ms2ger> Or, create a define with a useful name
# [17:29] <ddahl> Ms2ger: ok, thx, this is just for a test
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# [17:48] <edmorley> philor: have the m-oth summary generation timeouts still been occurring for your after the latest tbpl push to prod / me landing the patches to reduce the verboseness of some of the buildbot output?
# [17:49] <edmorley> s/your/you/
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# [17:55] <edmorley> philor: good
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# [17:55] <edmorley> bah, this game of reftest starring whac-a-mole is getting tiring
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# [17:59] <mounir> edmorley: if only we had WebAudio API, we would be able to have nice 3d positioned sounds for every star
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# [18:01] <ddahl> apparently, I have very little understanding of GNU make: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1847868 what should this be? tried #if !defined(XP_WIN32), etc
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# [18:02] <mbrubeck> ddahl: ifeq ($(OS_ARCH),WINNT)
# [18:02] <mbrubeck> or "ifeq ($(MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT),windows)"
# [18:04] <ddahl> mbrubeck: ok, how about a single check for Linux only
# [18:04] <mbrubeck> does "Linux" include Android and B2G?
# [18:05] <edmorley> mounir: ha :-)
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# [18:10] <bholley> froydnj: ping
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# [18:10] <tbsaunde> edmorley: I'm tired of the spam, I'd be fine with you disabling the failing bits of those tests, but I'm not sure I have time to write a patch now, would you mind?
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# [18:11] <froydnj> bholley: pong
# [18:11] <edmorley> tbsaunde: ok, no problem :-)
# [18:11] <bholley> froydnj: heyo, so I'm putting in some telemetry to figure out how often the Components object is used on the web
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# [18:12] <bholley> froydnj: my main question is "do users encounter it at all", but while I'm at it I might as well gather some exponential metrics of how often it's used
# [18:12] <tbsaunde> edmorley: thanks, and sorry
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# [18:12] <edmorley> tbsaunde: that's ok :-)
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# [18:12] <bholley> froydnj: do I need to do anything other than add a call to Telemetry::Accumulate(id, 1); at the relevant site?
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# [18:13] <bholley> froydnj: or do I need to Accumulate(0) somewhere to get it going?
# [18:13] <froydnj> bholley: for "do users encounter it at all", you just need Accumulate(id, 1)
# [18:14] <froydnj> bholley: the id should be a flag histogram in that case
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# [18:14] <froydnj> bholley: what do you have in mind for "how often it's used"?
# [18:15] <bholley> froydnj: how many web page loads include a script that accesses Components
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# [18:15] <bholley> froydnj: I did exponential, high=1000, 20 buckets
# [18:15] <gcp> that's tricky with flag
# [18:15] <gcp> aren't you better making it a percentage?
# [18:15] <gcp> so adding o and 1's/
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# [18:16] <gcp> I wondered the same a while ago if add(0) is a no-op or not, and I though flag existed to make the difference clear
# [18:16] <bholley> gcp: it's not a flag though, it's an exponential
# [18:16] <froydnj> bholley: for that, I think you'd want a boolean histogram -- "did this web page load access Components, yes or no"
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# [18:17] <bholley> froydnj: we don't have any way of tell _which_ web page, do we?
# [18:17] <gcp> what froydnj says :P
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# [18:17] <froydnj> bholley: no, we can't pinpoint which web pages
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# [18:18] <bholley> froydnj: what does a boolean histogram look like?
# [18:18] <bholley> froydnj: "boolean"?
# [18:18] <froydnj> bholley: histograms are defined in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/telemetry/Histograms.json
# [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eda2891c545b - Fabrice Desré - Bug 789527 - Change the way we install packaged apps [r=gwagner]
# [18:19] <gcp> froydnj: btw, that json file has wonderfully inconsistent number/string quoting :P
# [18:19] <bholley> froydnj: but I need to explicitly call it for false if we didn't hit Components, right?
# [18:19] <froydnj> gcp: yes, it's not great =/ I should have made my conversion script more careful
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# [18:20] <gcp> froydnj: also, I'd have liked #if not defined support, so I can axe all the stuff we don't use in Fennec
# [18:20] <gcp> !ANDROID or smth
# [18:20] <froydnj> bholley: what's "it" there? accumulate?
# [18:21] <bholley> froydnj: yes
# [18:21] <bholley> froydnj: I'm not particularly interested in the number of web pages that don't have Components
# [18:21] <bholley> froydnj: I expect it to be more or less "all of them"
# [18:22] <froydnj> bholley: I'd expect that too
# [18:22] <bholley> froydnj: a session-wide flag would almost be fine, but I might as well get some granularity while I'm at it
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# [18:22] <froydnj> gcp: like cpp_not_guard?
# [18:22] <bholley> froydnj: which is why I was thinking of an exponential accumulator
# [18:22] <gcp> froydnj: yeah, maybe
# [18:22] <gcp> froydnj: I dunno if there's much point to not including telemetry that can never register. does it make pings smaller?
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# [18:23] <froydnj> gcp: histograms are constructed lazily, so if you never Accumulate into a given ID, you just pay O(20 bytes) or so for read-only storage of the histogram parameters
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# [18:24] <froydnj> gcp: and we only send information about histograms that have Accumulate'd
# [18:24] <gcp> froydnj: in the binary? ok then prolly noone cares :P
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# [18:25] <froydnj> bholley: essentially, you only want to send in a number for "we loaded this # of web pages that hit Components"?
# [18:25] <bholley> froydnj: yes
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# [18:28] <bholley> froydnj: so when I test this with about:telemetry, I do it 4 times and I see a bunch of "1s", not a 4
# [18:28] <bholley> froydnj: so I think my understanding of Accumulate is wrong
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# [18:28] <bholley> froydnj: it doesn't sum all the values you Accumulate?
# [18:29] <froydnj> bholley: no, it buckets them
# [18:29] <bholley> froydnj: is there a way to sum them? Or do I have to do that manually?
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# [18:29] <gcp> ...this is why I'd recommend treating the telemetry as a percentage...
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# [18:30] <bholley> gcp: but that would involve me calling into telemetry at every document teardown
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# [18:30] <gcp> bholley: good point
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# [18:30] <froydnj> bholley: you'd have to do it manually in this case
# [18:30] <bholley> gcp: so should I just treat it as a boolean histogram and never call with false?
# [18:31] <bholley> gcp: or should I just do a flag and be done with it?
# [18:31] <gcp> bholley: I don't think that can work. my first idea would have been to simply go uses it/doesn't use it on a boolean histogram
# [18:31] <gcp> bholley: which should give you a percentage, if I get it correctly
# [18:31] <gcp> bholley: but indeed that would require telemetry at every page visit
# [18:32] <gcp> bholley: ...which we surely already do for some stuff
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# [18:32] <gcp> bholley: and I'm not sure if we have telemetry for total visited pages, which you'd need to turn that percentage into a total amount
# [18:32] <froydnj> we already make multiple calls into telemetry per page visit
# [18:32] <gcp> froydnj please correct me if I'm writing nonsense
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# [18:32] <froydnj> gcp: no, no, keep it up
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# [18:33] <bholley> ok, I'm just going to do a flag and be done with it
# [18:33] <@khuey> edmorley: ping
# [18:33] <edmorley> khuey: hi
# [18:34] <@khuey> edmorley: why does 795256 block 687332?
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# [18:35] <edmorley> khuey: just hg log on off-chance
# [18:35] <@khuey> edmorley: yeah no :-(
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# [18:36] <@khuey> very unlikely
# [18:36] <edmorley> and adding dependencies generally seems to get a better response to newly filed oranges (even if that bug wasn't the cause...)
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# [18:40] <@khuey> edmorley: thanks
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# [18:46] <mbrubeck> I don't see where the syntax error is coming from, but also curious why you have ifeq(OS_ARCH,DARWIN) nested inside ifeq(OS_ARCH,WINNT)...
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# [18:46] <mbrubeck> Are you trying to disable these on both Windows and Mac?
# [18:47] <ddahl> mbrubeck: i want to not add these tests to mac and windows - linux only
# [18:47] <mbrubeck> I think you want something like "ifneq (OS_ARCH,WINNT); ifneq (OS_ARCH,DARWIN); ...; endif; endif"
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# [18:49] <mbrubeck> or something like "ifneq (,$(filter WINNT DARWIN,$(OS_ARCH)))"
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# [18:54] <jduell> sad, I still don't seem to know seemingly obvious things about xpcom. Like, is it OK to use a nsCOMPtr for a concrete type that implements an nsI* interface, or should/must I use an nsRefPtr?
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# [18:54] <@smaug> you should use nsRefPtr for concrete classes
# [18:54] <@smaug> but it isn't must
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> It is :)
# [18:55] <ddahl> mbrubeck: ok, thx
# [18:56] <jduell> Ms2ger: smaug: this says it's fine to use COMPtr: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676603#c6
# [18:56] <jduell> Of course our online docs don't say...
# [18:56] <Ms2ger> Note the correction in the next comment
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# [19:05] <froydnj> gcp: ^
# [19:06] <gcp> ok
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# [19:07] <gcp> crap, typo when rebasing
# [19:07] <gcp> can I push a followup?
# [19:07] <benjamin> yes, it looks simple
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# [19:16] <froydnj> gcp: congrats on getting in before the flood there
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# [19:16] <gcp> yes, so now they sherrif will have an entertaining time if one of the patches behind me broke something
# [19:16] <joe> that was all inbound
# [19:16] <NeilAway> jduell: nsCOMPtr is *only* for interfaces. So you can write nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> foo = new Foo(); but if you want to refcount a Foo then you need nsRefPtr<Foo>
# [19:16] <joe> oh wait yeah
# [19:16] <gcp> it's inbound that I put on fire
# [19:17] <joe> gpc != jgriffin
# [19:17] <gcp> dougt mentored me. I was trained by the best.
# [19:17] <jduell> NeilAway: "need" seems to be strong here? Seems like more of a convention from the bug I cited above?
# [19:17] <froydnj> gcp++
# [19:17] <dougt> gcp: :)
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# [19:18] <jduell> i.e. you can really use either nsRefPtr/nsCOMPtr for a concrete object that implements a nsI* interface.
# [19:18] <jduell> But the convention seems to be nsRefPtr, looking at the % of uses in our code.
# [19:18] <NeilAway> jduell: no, nsCOMPtr<Foo> is plain wrong, and your reviewer should know that
# [19:18] <froydnj> jduell: there's an open bug somewhere about making nsCOMPtr<Concrete> an error and vice versa
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# [19:19] <jduell> NeilAway: ok, say more. What goes wrong with nsCOMPtr in this case?
# [19:19] <jduell> I'm all ears, really...
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# [19:19] <gcp> I'm away for a bit. back me out with great prejudice if the fix doesn't go green.
# [19:19] <jduell> froydnj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676603#c6 // wrong?
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# [19:21] <NeilAway> jduell: assuming Foo is derived from nsIFoo, nsCOMPtr<Foo> actually gets you an nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo>, but lets you call Foo methods
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# [19:22] <dougt> gcp: since you burnt inbound, i should let you know about a new game… you can, instead, push to try first. If you push enough to try, your name goes on a scoreboard and all of your peers see how important and productive you are.
# [19:22] <NeilAway> jduell: I guess it's not so bad if nsIFoo is [builtinclass]
# [19:22] <jduell> NeilAway: does that blow up somehow?
# [19:23] <jduell> I.e. if Foo method called
# [19:23] <Ms2ger> jduell, nah, get() returns a T*
# [19:23] <froydnj> jduell: I don't think what dholbert said there is unambiguous
# [19:24] <froydnj> I guess he clarifies in comment 8
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# [19:24] <jduell> well, he says it "may be better" for calling non-IDL method of Foo, but I'm not clear that an nsCOMPtr wouldn't do that too?
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# [19:26] <froydnj> AFAICS nsCOMPtr would let you do that too
# [19:28] <bent> jduell, are you trying to store an interface pointer or a concrete pointer?
# [19:28] <jduell> bent: a concrete ptr
# [19:29] <bent> so use nsRefPtr :
# [19:29] <bent> )
# [19:29] <Mook_as> jduell: nsCOMPtr also blows up hilariously if your Foo implements more than one interface :)
# [19:30] * qDot just got to write up a big ol' email on nsCOMPtr, nsRefPtr, RefPtr, Your Body, and You last night. :|
# [19:30] <jcranmer> nsCOMPtr relies on nsISupports and QueryInterface
# [19:30] <bent> i think technically only if you multiply-inherit nsISupports
# [19:30] <jcranmer> nsRefPtr doesn't rely on nsISupports
# [19:30] <jduell> Mook_as: Ah! So then there's a good reason to not use nsCOMPtr.
# [19:30] <bent> but the rules are simple, nsCOMPtr for interface pointers, nsRefPtr for concrete pointers
# [19:30] <jduell> I'm really just wondering why.
# [19:30] <Mook_as> nsRefPtr works great with MS-COM too, since that doesn't inherit from nsISupports (it uses IUnknown instead)
# [19:30] <jcranmer> at the very least, nsRefPtr has a slight perf advantage
# [19:30] <bent> jduell, nsCOMPtr is used to verify QI implementations
# [19:31] <bent> jduell, and to hold abstract types
# [19:31] <jduell> bent: except that bugzilla accuses you of saying the opposite on IRC: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676603#c6
# [19:31] <bent> see comment 8
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# [19:31] <bent> where we clarified his comment
# [19:31] <bent> s/we/he/
# [19:32] <bent> and he's not talking about nsCOMPtr<Foo>
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# [19:32] <jcranmer> jduell: see comment 8
# [19:32] <bent> he's talking about nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> vs. nsRefPtr<Foo>
# [19:32] <bent> nsCOMPtr<Foo> is always wrong
# [19:32] <jcranmer> dholbert misspoke about what bent said :-)
# [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96ef3b8bd9ed - Andrew Quartey - Bug 793201 - Fix compiler warnings in Azure with MSVC r=bas
# [19:33] <qDot> So RefPtr/RefConted<> is for non-XPCOM stuff that needs our ref-counted sematics, right?
# [19:33] <qDot> RefCounted<>
# [19:33] <bent> ugh, let's not go there
# [19:33] <jduell> bent: ok, so just to be clear (so I can update the nsRefPtr docs): the reasons I've heard that one should use nsRefPtr for concrete impls of IDLs are
# [19:34] <jduell> 1) It will blow up for multiple interfaces (if Mook_as is correct)
# [19:34] <jduell> bent: ok fine, I've got work to do too :)
# [19:34] <Ms2ger> qDot, we really should kill RefPtr/RefCounted
# [19:34] <jduell> nsRefPtr is the winner
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# [19:34] <jduell> for reasons I no longer care about
# [19:34] <bent> sorry, i meant, let's not go there re: qdot's other pointer types
# [19:35] <jduell> bent: oh, ok
# [19:35] <jduell> then
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# [19:35] <jduell> 2) because nsCOMPtr won't let you call non-IDL methods on Foo (really?)
# [19:35] <jduell> anything else
# [19:35] <jduell> ?
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> No, not really
# [19:36] <bent> let me see if i can explain simply
# [19:36] <bent> nsCOMPtr and nsRefPtr are basically just templates that hold a T*
# [19:37] <bent> nsRefPtr<nsIFoo> and nsRefPtr<Foo> hold two different types, nsIFoo* and Foo*
# [19:37] <bent> if you want to call a method on Foo that doesn't exist on nsIFoo then you can't do that with a nsIFoo*
# [19:38] <bent> nsCOMPtr just adds a little bit on top of nsRefPtr
# [19:38] <bent> where it verifies your QI implementation
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# [19:39] <bent> that's really all the magic there is
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# [19:39] <bent> so, for 1) above, Mook_as is right, if nsCOMPtr can't implicitly cast your T* to nsISupports then it can't verify QI
# [19:40] <bent> (and it won't be able to if T multiply-inherits nsISupports)
# [19:40] <bent> and 2) is right also, since you can't call a function that doesn't exist on T with a T*
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# [19:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/42632e7878f3 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 794713 - Convert process output to Unicode; handle Unicode in logger properly; r=glandium
# [19:41] <jduell> bent: re: 2) . It sounds like nsCOMPtr<Foo> would be able to call any Foo method?
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# [19:41] <bent> yes, in that case, your T is Foo
# [19:41] <bent> so you could call anything you want on T
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# [19:42] <bent> however, you can't make the QI work
# [19:42] <jduell> re: 1). do we blow up at compile time in the bad QI case?
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# [19:42] <bent> yes
# [19:43] <bent> but think about it,
# [19:43] <bent> this is the problem with nsCOMPtr<Foo>:
# [19:43] <bent> say you do this:
# [19:43] <bent> nsCOMPtr<Foo> foo = new Foo();
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# [19:44] <bent> under the hood that will do |operator=(Foo* aRHS) { Foo* tmp; CallQueryInterface(tmp, aRHS); }|
# [19:44] <bent> i'm simplifying a bit
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# [19:45] <bent> so CallQueryInterface will try to figure out which IID to QI to
# [19:45] <bent> now, Foo shouldn't have an IID
# [19:45] <bent> nsIFoo, sure
# [19:45] <bent> but not Foo
# [19:45] <bent> nevertheless, due to the way we implement our IID helpers,
# [19:46] <bent> QI will see the IID of nsIFoo on Foo and use that
# [19:46] <bent> (probably)
# [19:46] <bent> there's a bug to make that fail, at which point nsCOMPtr<Foo> would no longer compile
# [19:46] <bent> but so far we haven't fixed it
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# [19:47] <bent> anyway, that means that the pointer QueryInterface will return is an nsIFoo*
# [19:47] <bent> not a Foo*
# [19:47] <bent> in most cases they will be the same
# [19:47] <bent> but not in all cases
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# [19:48] <bent> so anyway, back to the beginning. the rules are simple. interface pointers use nsCOMPtr. concrete pointers use nsRefPtr.
# [19:48] <jduell> bent: interesting. Thanks for the explanation. I'll put a note on the nsRefPtr MDN page.
# [19:49] <bent> the only ambiguity is if you don't really care which your class holds, nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> vs. nsRefPtr<Foo>
# [19:49] <bent> this is what dholbert's bug comments were about
# [19:49] <bent> if you can hold either then it's sorta up to you
# [19:50] <bent> so, like, you have a Foo*, you could either hold it as nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> or nsRefPtr<Foo>
# [19:50] <bent> just depends on how you need to use it
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# [19:51] <bent> i personally think it's best to hold the most derived type when possible, why throw type information away?
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# [19:52] <bent> but it's not a big deal
# [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f95d57abe039 - cviecco@mozilla.com - Bug 785259: Fix override bit masking [v2], r=bsmith, sr=honzab, a=akeybl
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# [19:59] <dholbert> hmm... In looking at my terminal scrollback, I just now noticed that my push to m-i this morning (with seth's patches) ended with "abort: empty revision set" "warning: post-push hook exited with status 255"
# [19:59] <dholbert> ...but the push appeared to succeed.
# [19:59] <philor> bent: not sure what to do with your m-c linux64 debug m2
# [19:59] <edmorley> dholbert: post-pull local hook for phases?
# [19:59] <dholbert> edmorley, ah! yes
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# [20:00] <dholbert> edmorley, which is to try to make try pushing less painful, but hasn't seemed to have any effect. :-/
# [20:00] * dholbert disables that hook
# [20:00] <edmorley> dholbert: create an alias for push just for try, that way the hook doesn't get run for non try
# [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4894f30a242 - Ed Morley - Bug 780863 - Disable test_bug270414.html on Android for too many intermittent failures (mark 2)
# [20:00] <bent> philor, looking
# [20:00] <edmorley> dholbert: yeah I had trouble getting it to work too
# [20:00] <dholbert> edmorley, I do have an alias for push-to-try... do I have to customize the hook to make it only work on that alias?
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# [20:00] <edmorley> dholbert: I think that's what the wiki says, but it didn't work for me on windows
# [20:00] <NeilAway> bent++
# [20:01] <bent> philor, [Child 2270] ###!!! ABORT: invalid segment: '!strncmp(header->mMagic, sMagic, sizeof(sMagic))', file ../../../ipc/glue/Shmem.cpp, line 303
# [20:01] <dholbert> edmorley, ok. I'm just gonna disable the hook. :) thanks for the help in clearing up what was going on
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# [20:01] <bent> philor, that look familiar?
# [20:01] * @stuart grumbles about firefox using 1.8gb ram
# [20:01] <NeilAway> bent: iirc we used to use the wrong version back when forget was less forgiving
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# [20:02] <philor> bent: nope - things with good names like that I usually remember
# [20:02] <dholbert> stuart, this guy has some thoughts on that: https://pavlovdotnet.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/firefox-3-memory-usage/
# [20:02] <@stuart> dholbert: thx
# [20:02] <@stuart> i killed some flash process and it dropped 1gb
# [20:02] <@stuart> still not really responsive
# [20:02] <philor> except that there's the whole complex of worker/indexedDB failures in m2 where I never look at the logs, because they happen all day long
# [20:02] <dholbert> haha
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# [20:03] <@stuart> about:memory has hung my browser/unresponsive script heh
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# [20:04] <bent> philor, this is an IPC bug
# [20:04] <philor|afk> my favoritest
# [20:04] <@stuart> │ │ ├──440.78 MB (51.96%) ── decommitted-arenas
# [20:04] <bent> philor|afk, can we retrigger it and then make a new intermittent orange bug?
# [20:04] <@stuart> what does that mean?
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# [20:09] <@khuey> stuart: read the tooltip?
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# [20:09] <@stuart> too bad i closed it and launched chrome!
# [20:09] <@stuart> it is still closing
# [20:10] <@khuey> stuart: "Memory on the garbage-collected JavaScript heap, in arenas in non-empty chunks, that is returned to the OS. This means it takes up address space but no physical memory or swap space."
# [20:11] <@stuart> then the numbers don't add up :)
# [20:12] <dao> hub: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737766#c18 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737766#c19
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# [20:14] <hub> dao: what?
# [20:14] <hub> ah
# [20:14] <dao> hub: you're the mentor for this bug, apparently
# [20:14] <hub> apparently
# [20:14] <hub> I wasn't even aware
# [20:14] <hub> I'm not even CC on it
# [20:15] <jdm> that is an unfortunate situation
# [20:15] <hub> *sigh*
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# [20:16] <jduell> bent: so I'm editing https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/nsRefPtr and I've got one more question: can you safely call QI on a nsRef<nsFoo>? Seems like it will work unless/until we change things so QI doesn't see the IID for nsIFoo.
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# [20:17] <bent> jduell, it's just a Foo* right?
# [20:17] <bent> so it will just call QueryInterface
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# [20:17] <jduell> bent: right, and hit the case you talked about above, where we currently make QI of Foo find nsIFoo's IID
# [20:17] <jduell> I assume
# [20:17] <@khuey> uh
# [20:17] <bent> no
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# [20:17] <@khuey> you mean nsRefPtr<Foo> = do_QueryInterface(something); ?
# [20:17] <bent> jduell, the trick is figuring out the arg to QI
# [20:17] <@khuey> that's pretty dangerous
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# [20:18] <jduell> khuey: no, I mean nsRefPtr<nsFoo> foo; foo->QueryInterface()
# [20:18] <@khuey> ah
# [20:18] <Ms2ger> jduell, sure, that works
# [20:18] <bent> jduell, in that case you have to supply the IID
# [20:18] <bent> and it will work fine
# [20:18] <@khuey> that's fine, modulo the general stuff about calling QI yourself being silly
# [20:18] <Ms2ger> Or do_QI(foo)
# [20:19] <@khuey> do_QueryObject(foo)
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# [20:52] <sfink|flu> khuey: why is |nsRefPtr<Foo> = do_QueryInterface(something)| dangerous? (I know a reason why things like that can be dangerous. Wondering if it's the same one.)
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# [20:53] <jduell> mounir: I can take bug 794978 unless you want it
# [20:53] <@ehsan> dao: are you available to review bug 795015 today?
# [20:54] <Ms2ger> sfink|flu, because it QIs to nsIFoo, not Foo
# [20:55] <sfink|flu> Oh. Darn, that's different then.
# [20:55] <sfink|flu> thanks
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# [20:56] <@ehsan> dao: thanks!
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# [20:59] <@khuey> sfink|flu: what Ms2ger said
# [20:59] <mounir> jduell: please, take it :)
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# [21:00] <Ms2ger> gps++
# [21:00] <evilpie> jduell: are you the person to ask when messing with nsIChannel and nsDocShell:DoUriLoad
# [21:00] <@khuey> good news everyone! we just found a new docshell owner
# [21:01] <@khuey> congrats evilpie!
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# [21:01] <jduell> evilpie: depends on how much your question is nsIChannel vs nsIDocShell. What's question?
# [21:02] <evilpie> jduell: bug 676619, i put some value into the propertybag of a nsIChannel to force downloading in UriLoader
# [21:02] <evilpie> i denounce everything you just said, khuey!
# [21:02] <gps> Ms2ger: is that for something in particular?
# [21:02] <Ms2ger> gps, yeah... mach :)
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> And the fix for fancy quotes
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# [21:03] <gps> OK! (the world is a blur right now because I've been battling Python 2 Unicode)
# [21:03] <evilpie> jduell: oh and do you happen to know about how to implement a same origin check properly?
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> And beating! :)
# [21:03] <evilpie> it seem like there are multiple ways to do it
# [21:03] <jduell> evilpie: so the question is whether it's ok to stuff a arg into nsIChannel propertyBag?
# [21:03] <sfink|flu> gps: decode when you get it in, encode when you send it out
# [21:04] <sfink|flu> gps: curse when that isn't easy
# [21:04] <sfink|flu> (I just went through the same thing with bzexport)
# [21:04] <gps> sfink|flu: I know about that - it's problems with things like sys.stdout.encoding == None when the output is a pipe
# [21:04] <jduell> you can do that--it doesn't work cross-process, but as long as both setter/reader of property are in same process you're ok. It's kind of ugly.
# [21:04] <evilpie> jduell: well kind of, or if i should opt for some other way
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# [21:04] <gps> and when you have mixed str and unicode
# [21:05] <jduell> I've been hoping to get rid of the propertyBag stuff, so if you can find another way that'd be great
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# [21:07] <sfink|flu> Hm. Just ran into a song I wrote last night while delirious with fever. Title is "Earwigs are my friends".
# [21:08] <evilpie> jduell: nsIChannel has a function SetContentType, should i implement something like that?
# [21:08] <evilpie> in the future i also want to specify a filename "hint"
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# [21:11] <dholbert> sfink|flu, perhaps you could perform it during a lightning-talk at next Monday's weekly meeting?
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# [21:12] <sfink|flu> dholbert: by then I'll have lost my sexy flu voice
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# [21:13] <froydnj> sfink|flu: we accept recordings accompanied by interpretive dance
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# [21:13] <evilpie> text highlighting for DocShell.cpp fails in Sublime Text
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# [21:13] <froydnj> evilpie: your editor is trying to protect you
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# [21:15] <sfink|flu> froydnj: that's kinda what I vaguely recall my family experiencing last night
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# [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/204ba80209a2 - Mark Finkle - Bug 795132 - Cache DPI to avoid making JNI calls r=blassey
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# [21:19] <@khuey> froydnj++
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# [21:21] <@gavin> hrm, is make -f client.mk configure broken?
# [21:21] <@khuey> it wasn't a couple days ago
# [21:21] <froydnj> gps: ^
# [21:21] <@gavin> [gavin@gavin-mbp:~/mozilla/mozilla-central]$ make -f client.mk configure
# [21:21] <@gavin> client.mk:109: *** Fix above errors before continuing.. Stop.
# [21:22] <gps> gavin: there was a bug filed this morning... looking
# [21:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c18edd01cd4 - Jim Mathies - Bug 795307 - Use telemetry to report touch enabled device stats. r=nfroyd
# [21:22] <gps> bug 795326
# [21:23] <gps> that's all I got
# [21:23] <@gavin> related potential issue: I changed my mozconfig and configure wasn't re-run
# [21:23] <@gavin> (so I was trying to re-run it manually)
# [21:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff77ff9b2033 - David Anderson - Disable TypeInference on ARMv6 builds (bug 793740, r=mjrosenb).
# [21:24] <jduell> biesi: ping
# [21:24] <@khuey> changing your mozconfig doesn't cause configure to rerun
# [21:24] <@khuey> that's intentional
# [21:24] <biesi> jduell, pong
# [21:24] <Ms2ger> gps, heh, an environment variable backdoor, sounds like make ;)
# [21:24] <@gavin> since when?
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# [21:25] <jduell> biesi: would you object to adding a "filenameHint' attribute to nsIChannel? See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676619#c47
# [21:25] <jduell> The alternative may be to use the propertyHashBag, which I'd like to get rid of someday...
# [21:26] <jduell> biesi: the bug is long--I can summarize it a bit here if you like
# [21:26] <biesi> jduell, I'd rather make contentDispositionFilename writable
# [21:26] <biesi> jduell, though I would be interested in that summary
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# [21:27] <jduell> biesi: evilpie: my understanding is that for a new "download" attribute that <a> can have (to download JS-generated file rather than navigate to it)
# [21:27] <jduell> they want a way to store the filename in the channel
# [21:27] <biesi> ah I see
# [21:27] <jduell> so when the user is prompted we have a sensible filename.
# [21:27] <biesi> yeah
# [21:28] <evilpie> jduell: well not just JS-generated files, but this is the idea
# [21:28] <biesi> jduell, let's reuse contentDispositionFilename because that's its purpose already
# [21:28] <jduell> So I suppose letting contentDistibutionFilename be writable would solve the issue
# [21:28] <jduell> biesi: ok, thanks
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# [21:30] <evilpie> biesi, jduell so this would also result in using nsIExternalHelperAppService in the uriloader ?
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# [21:30] <biesi> evilpie, no
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# [21:30] <biesi> evilpie, but we could make contentDispositionType writable too for that prupose
# [21:30] <evilpie> okay :)
# [21:30] <evilpie> this sounds good
# [21:31] <evilpie> so this wouldn't be overwritten?
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# [21:31] <biesi> evilpie, well this isn't implemented yet, so it depends how we implement it :p
# [21:31] <evilpie> :)
# [21:31] <biesi> evilpie, but the only case where it might be overwritten is HTTP's content-disposition header, and I think that one should overwrite it
# [21:32] <evilpie> yes absolutely!
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# [21:35] <benjamin> what's the difference between visual and scrollable overflow?
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# [21:35] <benjamin> well, I imagine scrollable is what you get with overflow: scroll
# [21:35] <Ms2ger> benjamin, say, box-shadow
# [21:35] <benjamin> but how can you have both of time at the same time?
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# [21:35] <Ms2ger> benjamin, if it overflows, you don't want a scrollbar
# [21:36] <Ms2ger> You just want the shadow to be cut off
# [21:36] <evilpie> jduell, biesi okay i will try to test this out, i am going to get back to you
# [21:36] <Ms2ger> I believe that's what that's about
# [21:36] <jduell> evilpie: these will be HttpChannels that are created?
# [21:36] <jduell> I assume so
# [21:36] <benjamin> oh, so if you have a fixed size block and some child has box-shadow that overflows, the block won't get a scrollbar?
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# [21:37] <Ms2ger> I believe so, yes
# [21:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8cbeb46ddd82 - Bob Clary - Bug 789086 - use unique temporary filename for robotium.config file in mochitest/runtestsremote.py, r=jmaher.
# [21:37] <biesi> jduell, evilpie: seems like DataChannel would be an important use case too
# [21:37] <benjamin> wicked
# [21:37] <dholbert> AryehGregor, quick ping
# [21:37] <evilpie> i am not following anymore ...
# [21:37] <biesi> (well, DataChannel really means BaseChannel)
# [21:38] <philor> edmorley|away: now to see whether we can successfully fetch suggestions for the 8285 failures in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=abf5f7d05488 :)
# [21:38] <jduell> biesi: right, now GetContentDispositionFilename returns UNIMPLEMENTED; we could change to succeed if set
# [21:38] <Ms2ger> dholbert, anything I can help with? :)
# [21:38] <philor> gavin: that's you ^
# [21:38] <biesi> jduell, yeah
# [21:39] <biesi> jduell, should be fairly simple
# [21:39] <Pike> what's the rule that creates the dist/x.app directory on the mac? can one run just that?
# [21:39] <jduell> biesi: yup, filing bug now
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# [21:39] <@ted> Pike: browser/app
# [21:40] <dholbert> Ms2ger, sure -- I just wanted a rubber-stamp on changing the c++ style comment at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/base/nsError.h#120 to be c-style, to fix build warning
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# [21:40] <Ms2ger> dholbert, rs=me
# [21:40] <dholbert> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1848166
# [21:40] <dholbert> Ms2ger, yay thanks
# [21:40] * dholbert likes to avoid r=lumpy when possible
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# [21:41] <Pike> ted: thanks
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# [21:41] <@ted> NP
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# [21:43] <Ms2ger> Heh
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# [21:43] <Ms2ger> nsError.h has #include "nscore.h" /* needed for nsresult */
# [21:43] <dholbert> heh
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# [21:44] <mrbkap> C should just allow //-style comments.
# [21:44] <froydnj> it does
# [21:44] <froydnj> just not c90
# [21:45] <sheppy> Even my old Apple IIgs C compiler does!
# [21:46] <mrbkap> froydnj: I think I mean that gcc should just stop warning :/
# [21:46] <firebot> Check-in:
# [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c0394fcdfec - Daniel Holbert - Bug 793580 followup: Fix added comment to be C-style instead of C++-style, to fix build warning for .c files that include nsError.h. rs=Ms2ger (DONTBUILD because
# [21:46] <firebot> comment-only)
# [21:46] * Callek looks at inbound red https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&noignore=1&rev=ff77ff9b2033 thats davida right?
# [21:47] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, file a bug ;)
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# [21:48] <@ehsan> jimm: red on inbound
# [21:48] <froydnj> mrbkap: stop compiling with -pedantic :)
# [21:48] <@ehsan> Callek: that's jimm
# [21:48] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: I don't think I have a flame resistant suit that's strong enough for the responses I'd get from the GCC developers.
# [21:49] <mrbkap> froydnj: *I'm* not, Mozilla is!
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# [21:49] <froydnj> mrbkap: file a bug ;)
# [21:49] <Callek> ehsan: ahh thanks
# [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f62de173456 - Scott Johnson - Bug 795313: Modify order of conditionals in UpdateFontInflationDataWidthFor() for performance enhancements. [r=dbaron]
# [21:49] * mrbkap wonders how many hours of his life he's lost to -pedantic.
# [21:49] <@ehsan> I'll back him out I guess
# [21:49] <mrbkap> froydnj: the problem is that occasionally, gcc is right and the warnings are useful :(
# [21:49] <Callek> wow thats a whole lot of inbound pushes this hour
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# [21:50] <Callek> its almost like its teh last work-day before EOQ
# [21:50] <philor> ehsan: take out abf5f7d05488 too please
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# [21:50] <@ehsan> philor: sure, what's the reason?
# [21:50] <tbsaunde> froydnj: what's wrong with adding Wno-comment atleast?
# [21:50] <@ehsan> oh
# [21:50] <@ehsan> philor: broken moths
# [21:50] <philor> ehsan: "ten thousand browser-chrome failures"
# [21:51] <philor> that little 8000 was warmup, the second was much better :)
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# [21:51] <froydnj> tbsaunde: Wno-comment doesn't affect that warning
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# [21:51] <@gavin> philor: looking
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# [21:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fc56788f874 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset 0c18edd01cd4 (bug 795307) for broken builds on Windows
# [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41c5a807276f - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout bug abf5f7d05488 for more than 10000 browser-chrome failures
# [21:52] <@gavin> well then
# [21:52] <tbsaunde> froydnj: hm, so is there no -WBlah for that warning to get a similar Wno-blah?
# [21:53] <philor> gavin: sorry, after the last few days we're trigger happy
# [21:53] <froydnj> tbsaunde: nope :(
# [21:53] <froydnj> philor: just the last few days?
# [21:53] <@gavin> backing out is fine
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# [21:54] <jimm> ehsan: oh ok
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# [21:54] <@ehsan> jimm: sorry, backed you out already
# [21:54] <jimm> that's cool.
# [21:54] <philor> froydnj: yeah, it's just the last few days that we've been having a third bustage land on bustage landing on bustage
# [21:54] <jimm> built fine on elm, but maybe something broke when I applied to inbound.
# [21:54] <philor> most of the time we only layer them two deep
# [21:55] <Ms2ger> This is terrible: http://imgur.com/a/9fJLP
# [21:55] <jimm> ah missing include
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# [21:57] <Pike> where does gaia store its prefs?
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# [22:01] <edmorley|away> philor: ha yeah we should cap the max number of bug lookups
# [22:02] <@gavin> let's say that I have a breakpoint set at the nsDOMAttribute constructor, and want to figure out what script is causing it to be created (JS is on the stack)
# [22:02] <@gavin> what's the most straightforward way to get that? this seems like something we should have aon a wiki somewhere :)
# [22:02] <sfink|flu> gavin: call DumpJSStack()?
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# [22:03] <@gavin> hrm, yeah, guess I should ahve thought of that!
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# [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c68ef18d340 - Jared Wein - Bug 786095 - Initially disable Social API when in safe mode. r=felipe
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# [22:10] <gps> ehsan: https://github.com/indygreg/hg-git/commit/e47b40b435fc67275ba94604b1e2d9118a11b125
# [22:11] <@ehsan> gps: awesome! how fast is this?
# [22:11] <gps> it doesn't verify Mercurial entries yet. but, I figured this is the feature you needed
# [22:11] <gps> ehsan: it takes ~10s on my mozilla-central repo :D
# [22:11] <@ehsan> it seems like it, yes
# [22:11] <@ehsan> 10s?!
# [22:11] <@ehsan> that script took what, like, 10 hours?
# [22:11] <@ehsan> (literally!)
# [22:11] <@ehsan> wow
# [22:11] <@ehsan> gps: thanks so much!
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# [22:12] <gps> 13.6s
# [22:12] <@ehsan> gps: which branches is this on?
# [22:12] <@ehsan> oh shoot
# [22:12] <gps> it all depends on the algorithm. I'm grabbing all the Git SHAs up front so I don't have to go to dulwich every time
# [22:12] <@ehsan> I just remembered that the office ssh was down last night
# [22:12] <@ehsan> and I forgot to run my test job
# [22:12] <@ehsan> smart plan
# [22:12] <gps> it's on the performance-master and the performance-refactor branches
# [22:13] <gps> yay cherry pick
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# [22:13] <Optimizer> is there a system native setTimeout
# [22:13] <Optimizer> that does not need window
# [22:13] <Optimizer> ?
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# [22:13] <@ehsan> gps: super!
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# [22:14] <@dolske> Optimizer: nsITimer
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# [22:26] <@dolske> jwir3: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2lg-rLCQAA2mnA.png:large
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# [22:36] <zzzzz> jimm: looks like you still have bustage
# [22:37] <jimm> ugh
# [22:37] <froydnj> jimm: it looks like it might need a clobber
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# [22:42] <jimm> <widget_windows.lib.desc>: Found error
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# [22:49] <crypt> Hi .. is there a plugin for sublime i can use the indent my source code to moz guidelines
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# [22:50] <mrbkap> crypt: I don't know of anything like that.
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# [22:51] <mrbkap> crypt: also, which guidelines? :) They change base don the directory.
# [22:51] <crypt> I am adding code under media/webrtc/signaling
# [22:51] <edmorley|away> ffs Nightly hangs trying to star those m-oth failures
# [22:52] <Waldo> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#rules-for-parsing-a-legacy-color-value is breaktaking
# [22:52] <Ms2ger> Waldo, you find that breathtaking already? You must be new here :)
# [22:52] <Waldo> Ms2ger: yes, that's a bit off the charts, actually
# [22:53] <benjamin> Waldo: you thinking about all the comments you'd be writing? :)
# [22:53] <Waldo> haha
# [22:53] <Waldo> it would indeed need comments
# [22:53] <Ms2ger> Cynical ones?
# [22:53] <benjamin> .// Step 1.5c
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# [22:54] <Ms2ger> /* Step 1 */
# [22:54] <Ms2ger> /* 5. */
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# [22:54] <Ms2ger> /* c. */
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# [22:54] <benjamin> at least not c comments, please...
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# [22:57] <mrbkap> Waldo: for extra credit, implement that algorithm with a single regexp :)
# [22:58] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: http://www.hackermusings.com/2012/09/pushing-to-git-from-mozilla-toronto/
# [22:58] <Waldo> heh
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# [22:59] <mrbkap> I think it's possible with Perl Regexps, but...
# [23:00] <edmorley|away> ehsan: think your PB push has failures: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15640267&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [23:00] <@ehsan> oh crap
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# [23:02] <@ehsan> edmorley|away: I'll back out
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# [23:02] <edmorley|away> ehsan: thank you :-)
# [23:02] <froydnj> pushing to git? *squee*
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# [23:03] <@ehsan> froydnj: yup
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# [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d1eb0a8b5cd - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset d927bdcfd2e4 (bug 795015) because of test failures
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# [23:08] <edmorley|away> ehsan: crashtest-ipc is busted too: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=crashtest-ipc&rev=d927bdcfd2e4
# [23:08] <tanvi> gps - do you know if the current mozilla-central is busted? i'm getting an error execvp: /hom/mozilla/central/js/src/config/install: Permission denied. Then when i try buidling again i get ...
# [23:08] <edmorley|away> (and press down several times; we've coalesced a lot)
# [23:09] <tanvi> build file copies are not in sync (/js/src/config and /config
# [23:09] <@ehsan> edmorley|away: same cset?
# [23:09] <edmorley|away> ehsan: not necessarily, large range
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# [23:10] <NeilAway> dolske: bah, that sign is so badly printed that for a second I thought it was misspelled
# [23:10] <@ehsan> edmorley|away: yeah cause that change should not really affect anything in crashtests
# [23:10] <edmorley|away> ehsan: ah; newly landed crashtest, bug 786108
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# [23:10] <@ehsan> heh, good
# [23:11] <@ehsan> so not my fault, right?
# [23:11] <edmorley|away> dholbert: ^
# [23:11] <edmorley|away> dholbert: crash: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15638460&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [23:11] <tanvi> gps - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1848292
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# [23:11] <dholbert> edmorley|away, looking. (seth may want to look as well)
# [23:11] <edmorley|away> dholbert: range: hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=eda2891c545b&tochange=d927bdcfd2e4
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# [23:12] <edmorley|away> bah stupid http trimming :-(
# [23:12] <dholbert> edmorley|away, range not needed -- it's a new crashtest, unlikely to have been broken after it was landed
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# [23:14] <edmorley|away> dholbert: I'll backout
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# [23:14] <dholbert> edmorley|away, ok -- just the cset that added that test should be sufficient
# [23:14] <dholbert> (not the other cset in the push)
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# [23:14] <edmorley|away> yup
# [23:14] <dholbert> edmorley|away, thanks!
# [23:14] <edmorley|away> np
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# [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5fbf17bdec32 - Ed Morley - Backout ec0dcd401a3f (bug 786108) for crashes
# [23:16] <@smaug> since I write C++ templates quite rarely; is it possible to special case templates so that normally Foo<interface> would end up calling DoSomething, but if interface has method DoSomethingFast, that would be called
# [23:16] <seth> smaug: look up SFINAE
# [23:17] <seth> smaug: the code will look a bit ugly i'm afraid
# [23:17] <jgilbert> that's what '// Here be dragons!' is for
# [23:18] <froydnj> aka // Here be standard techniques in C++.
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# [23:18] <dholbert> edmorley|away, I'll comment on the bug, unless you're about to do so
# [23:18] <edmorley|away> dholbert: thank you
# [23:18] <dholbert> edmorley|away, thank _you_!
# [23:18] <edmorley|away> :-)
# [23:18] <jdm> firebot: uuid
# [23:18] <firebot> fa17df92-5282-40e1-982d-9a3038a8ad21 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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# [23:19] <Waldo> smaug: note that mozilla/TypeTraits.h has an EnableIf template which may be helpful for SFINAE stuff
# [23:19] <edmorley|away> Callek: there seem to be a bunch of android reftest failures on inbound; ideas? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&;jobname= reftest
# [23:19] <edmorley|away> bah %20
# [23:19] <@smaug> froydnj: yeah yeah, remember I'm a long time Gecko developer, not used to whatever C++ might be available on some platforms
# [23:20] <@smaug> thanks all
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# [23:20] <seth> smaug: i didn't read through it so i can't endorse the contents but here's a stack overflow article that might be helpful: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/257288/is-it-possible-to-write-a-c-template-to-check-for-a-functions-existence
# [23:20] * Waldo kind of doubts most projects ever use SFINAE, actually, or that it's a common thing for C++ developers to use
# [23:21] <Callek> edmorley|away: sadly I have *no* idea
# [23:21] * @smaug *may* end up changing nsRefPtr and nsCOMPtr to use faster addref/release
# [23:21] <Callek> looks like electrons have something to do with it
# [23:21] <froydnj> smaug: oh, I meant that as a "standard techniques in C++" == dragons, not as a comment on your knowledge
# [23:21] <@smaug> ..when available
# [23:22] * froydnj certainly doesn't know how to apply SFINAE to what smaug wants to do
# [23:22] <@smaug> froydnj: this dragon isn't a technique in C++
# [23:22] <Callek> mjrosenb: ping
# [23:22] <jimm> damn, I'm still red, but there's no indication as to why in the log. I guess I'll back out.
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# [23:23] <Callek> mjrosenb: would that "issue" you thought you saw with that armv6 jit patch thingy be a potential cause of that?
# [23:23] <Callek> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=reftest
# [23:23] <Callek> edmorley|away: first occurance is on https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff77ff9b2033 am I right?
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# [23:24] <edmorley|away> Callek: cfca07bb3a34
# [23:24] <Waldo> anyone around here know where to find an updated xcode that will run on 10.6.8, that has a version of clang in it that our build system won't reject as buggy? alternatively, will I get a clang that works on OS X for compiling if I just build clang from source?
# [23:24] <edmorley|away> maybe/
# [23:24] <@smaug> oh, seth isn't sspitzer
# [23:25] <Waldo> :-)
# [23:25] * @smaug says hello to seth
# [23:25] <seth> smaug: an entirely new and unrelated seth =)
# [23:25] <seth> smaug: hello =)
# [23:25] <Callek> edmorley|away: hrm see it as far back as 436bbe....
# [23:26] <mcsmurf> at least no new Neil
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# [23:26] <mcsmurf> ;) :)
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# [23:27] <Callek> edmorley|away: so yea, this I suspect is a new issue, since I haven't seen anything like it in this frequency, and I don't have a clue what caused it :(
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# [23:28] <Callek> edmorley|away: I'd suggest a new random bug, for now, see if the tree stabalizes a bit over the weekend, and if not then "we" should start pressing on ateam/myself/dev to figure it out
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# [23:28] <Callek> edmorley|away: since we're cycling through backouts/landings/backouts/landings
# [23:29] <Callek> (EOQ is hectic)
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# [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/843439877db3 - Jim Mathies - Bug 795307 - commit backout
# [23:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f569fa9e32ae - Jim Mathies - Bug 795307 - backout e320e0e3ec41 due to red
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# [23:30] * philor fires off some builds to try to pin it on joe
# [23:30] <mcsmurf> where do I file bugs on tbpl.mozilla.org?
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# [23:30] <philor> webtools: tinderboxpushlog
# [23:30] <mcsmurf> thanks
# [23:30] <philor> at least I think it's in webtools :)
# [23:31] <Callek> philor: "fires off some builds..." is that re: reftest issue?
# [23:31] <catlee-away> http://harthur.github.com/fileit/
# [23:31] <Callek> or some other issue?
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# [23:31] <philor> Callek: yup, if someone's making us sometimes draw with invisible crayons, I'm betting on him
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# [23:33] <philor> sweet, 20K browser-chrome failures on Windows
# [23:33] <philor> hello, slow script dialog!
# [23:34] <edmorley|away> catlee-away: file-it is redundant now, bugzilla has a similar search box on the non-advanced file a bug page
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# [23:38] <philor> we should really embrace our nature, and make t-shirts with a bent-over tree, and a guy behind it with his pants around his ankles, for days like this
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# [23:39] <Callek> philor: heh yea, canvas reftest issues sure sound like https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92530b29ac24 could be it
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# [23:44] <philor> Callek: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/reftest/reftest-cmdline.js#70 ?
# [23:45] <philor> I would have thought that setting it in mobile/android/app/mobile.js would work, but since prefs are what's getting the blame for all-white reftests anyway, perhaps not
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# [23:46] <Callek> philor: I meant re: the cset I linked its the image downscaling thing
# [23:46] <Callek> ;-)
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# [23:46] <Callek> but yea, I don't pretend to know the right choice here
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# [23:47] <philor> Callek: I know, but in that actual cset, joe changed a reftest pref right below that comment saying to also do it elsewhere because of android reftests
# [23:47] <Callek> hrm, perhaps my blame link lied to me
# [23:48] <philor> beyond just my general natural suspicion of him, that seems particularly suspicious
# [23:48] <gps> tanvi: did you get an answer? reading scrollback it appears there was tree bustage?
# [23:48] <Waldo> philor: thank you sir, may I have a browser-other failure
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# [23:48] <Callek> ahhhhhh indeed it did
# [23:48] <tanvi> no, i didnt get an answer
# [23:48] <tanvi> i tried using an older revision, but still go tthe same problem
# [23:49] <tanvi> i dont know if its because of mach changes
# [23:49] <gps> tanvi: my guess is you have local changes/patches causing bustage
# [23:49] <tanvi> gps ^^
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# [23:49] <tanvi> i've popped them all
# [23:49] <Callek> philor: on the "bright" side, he added that pref to bootstrap too ;-)
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# [23:49] <tanvi> but i think i might need to start with a new clone
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# [23:49] <Callek> philor: but yep, joe is my shoe-in for this issue atm
# [23:49] <philor> Waldo: you get a failure, and you get a failure, and you get a failure, everybody gets a failure!
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# [23:50] <tanvi> because something is busted in my build environment, and if its not mach, then waiting and re-pulling in a few days wont' solve the problme
# [23:50] <Waldo> \o/
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# [23:50] <gps> tanvi: run a |diff -r build/ js/src/build|
# [23:50] <gps> see what file is different
# [23:50] <gps> wait - let me look at your logs
# [23:51] <philor> oh, he did do bootstrap.js, I need to start drinking my lunch at the start of the hour instead of at the end
# [23:51] <gps> tanvi: it's complaining about a nsinstall_real file
# [23:51] <Callek> philor: heh I haven't even eaten anything today yet
# [23:51] <gps> if that is an unversioned file, you should delete it
# [23:51] <gps> a fresh clone won't hurt though!
# [23:51] <tanvi> i've tried nooking all of js/src/config and /config
# [23:51] <tanvi> and then doing an hg update
# [23:52] <tanvi> -C
# [23:52] <tanvi> and then remaking
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# [23:52] <gps> this is on m-c?
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# [23:52] <tanvi> yeah
# [23:52] <gps> that's weird. are you accidentally doing source tree builds somehow?
# [23:52] <gps> actually, yeah, it appears you are building within the source tree and not the objdir
# [23:53] <gps> don't do that :)
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# [23:53] <gps> unless MOZ_OBJDIR=/home/mozilla/dev/mozilla-central isn't your source tree
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# [23:53] <tanvi> hmmm
# [23:54] <tanvi> i've always built from there
# [23:54] <gps> is /home/mozilla/dev/mozilla-central your source tree, your object directory, or both?
# [23:54] <tanvi> source tree
# [23:54] <tanvi> objdir is created inside /home/mozilla/dev/mozilla-central
# [23:54] <gps> well, your build output says it is also the object directory
# [23:54] <tanvi> but i've nuked it
# [23:54] <tanvi> hmm
# [23:54] <gps> line 45 from your log
# [23:55] <tanvi> hmm, my mozconfig must be busted
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# [23:55] <tanvi> just a sec
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# [23:55] <gps> every time your source directory == object directory kittens are tortured and killed and dolske gets upset. don't upset dolske
# [23:55] <padenot> gps: fwiw, this happended to me as well when I |hg bisect|
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# [23:56] <tanvi> yes, its the mozconfig
# [23:56] <tanvi> thanks gps!
# [23:56] <dholbert> Anyone know how to test ipc crashtests locally?
# [23:56] <padenot> I have to manually get build and js/src/build in sync
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# [23:56] <tanvi> doing a make clean and then will try the make again
# [23:56] <dholbert> from inspecting the test log, it looks like you just have to set MOZ_LAYERS_FORCE_SHMEM_SURFACES=1 while running the tests -- is that all there is?
# [23:56] <gps> tanvi: I wouldn't trust a make clean - I'd blow away everything and do a fresh clone
# [23:57] <gps> alternatively, |hg status -uin| and delete what you see
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# [23:57] <seth> dholbert: i just looked through the log myself and didn't see anything else either, but it seems like a strange name for a test where that environment variable is what's different
# [23:57] <cjones> dholbert, where you would do |make crashtest|, do |make crashtest-ipc|
# [23:57] <dholbert> cjones, oh, sweet
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# [23:58] <dholbert> seth, yeah, plus I just noticed that env var is only read in an "#ifdef DEBUG" chunk of code
# [23:58] <gps> tanvi, padenot: my best practice is to always define MOZ_OBJDIR as an absolute path. in my .mozconfig: mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/objdir
# [23:58] <dholbert> seth, so it can't be responsible after all (since we run Cipc on non-debug builds)
# [23:58] <seth> dholbert: yeah, makes sense. i will try it out locally here once my rebuilds finish
# [23:59] <padenot> gps: well, yes, but |hg bisect| should work anyway
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