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# Session Start: Sat Sep 29 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <@gavin> khuey: are you going to land 795128?
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# [00:02] <@dolske> gps: haven't we explicitly broken objdir==srcdir builds? :(
# [00:02] <Mossop> dolske: Nope
# [00:02] <gps> we should. they are silly
# [00:03] <Mossop> indeed
# [00:03] <@dolske> istr it was still needed for some l10n thing?
# [00:03] <@dolske> should look how to allow it only for that.
# [00:03] <gps> probably. the only constant in the build system is that any changes you make will inevitably be backed out because someone discovers 3 weeks later that it broke l10n repacks
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# [00:04] <@dolske> or require using a --i-want-srcdir-objdir-and-i-am-stupid-for-doing-so-this-will-break flag.
# [00:05] <@dolske> gps: after mach is done, can you fix all of l10n's stuff? plzkthx
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# [00:05] <gps> dolske: mach will never be done :)
# [00:06] <@dolske> you've escaped this time, mr bond.
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# [00:07] <Mossop> Just make mach do the l10n repacks too
# [00:07] <edmorley|away> philor: I think we should back joe out for now and not wait until the retriggers finish, seeing as 10.8 talos is starting to come back green now
# [00:07] <edmorley|away> concur?
# [00:08] <gps> Mossop: that idea is not as far-fetched as it sounds
# [00:08] <Mossop> I know, what are you waiting for?
# [00:08] <gps> pretty much all the crap that is makefiles today that shouldn't really be in makefiles is a candidate for porting to mach
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# [00:08] <gps> that includes packaging and l10n
# [00:08] <tanvi> gps - thanks for finding my bug! i got it working now.
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# [00:09] <gps> tanvi: \o/
# [00:10] <philor> edmorley|away: seems reasonable to me, it can always reland later, some time that's not in the middle of the middle of the middle
# [00:10] <edmorley|away> indeed
# [00:11] <firebot> Check-in:
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# [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28e5dc437921 - Ed Morley - Backout 92530b29ac24, 42e659956dc6 & 38277196c099 (bug 486918), d3b69fe15ac3 & b2dba2108722 (bug 786444), e7381ac9e30a (bug 786449) on suspicion of causing Android reftest
# [00:12] <firebot> failures on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:19] <@khuey> gavin: at some point, yes
# [00:19] <@khuey> gavin: tree was busted last night
# [00:23] <edmorley|away> pinky: like every night
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# [00:24] <@khuey> edmorley++
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# [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2843362ce9b - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 786126 - part 2 - Skip IC generation for GetElems of int32 indexes on non-native objects. (r=dvander)
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# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44465ef545e3 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 786126 - part 3 - Allow null/undefined in typeset of target object of Ion ICs. (r=dvander)
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# [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0153fec641e9 - David Dahl - Bug 758269 - Install permissions from manifest to Permission Manager r=fabrice
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# [00:31] <sicking> jduell: ping
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# [00:32] <Callek> khuey: well last nights bustage was primarily power issues...
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# [00:32] <Callek> p.s. is it about time where we need inbound1 inbound2 inbound3 inbound4, where your push always picks a random one?
# [00:33] <@khuey> Callek: yes, I'm aware
# [00:33] <Callek> ...of course I think that theory fails unless we have an autoland thing working
# [00:33] <zzzzz> really ? as if merging is not bad enough already
# [00:33] <@khuey> Callek: are you volunteering to handle the merges?
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# [00:33] <@khuey> cause that will be awful
# [00:34] <Callek> khuey: my idea would be inboundN would be auto merged to inbound, which then is manual merged to m-c
# [00:34] <Callek> ;-)
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# [00:34] <Callek> and auto merged every, say 1 hour, staggered by N
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# [00:34] <Callek> so inbound 1 merges at 01:00, inbound 2 at 02:00
# [00:34] <Callek> etc.
# [00:34] <Callek> but this sounds like lots of extra tooling, I don't want to volunteer to write
# [00:35] <@khuey> Callek: so when someone refactors thing A in inbound 1, and someone adds new uses of A in inbound 2, who is going to fix that?
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# [00:35] <Callek> khuey: 1000 monkies at 1000 computers
# [00:35] <zzzzz> or worse, a multi-part patch gets spread over all inbounds :P
# [00:36] <sicking> philikon: will you have time to review bug 793310 before you leave?
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# [00:36] <Callek> zzzzz: a multi-part patch should land in one push
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# [00:38] <mbrubeck> All merges should be done as a "git merge -s octopus" of all inbounds
# [00:39] <mbrubeck> also we should get rid of central, and just do nightly builds from a random inbound branch: inbound roulette!
# [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/777564a3cd50 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 795479: Add the update channel pref to b2g.js, and use it in the update URL. r=cjones
# [00:39] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck++
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# [00:41] <mcsmurf> heh
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# [00:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c19a02de09c4 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 794092 - Initial implementation of Gonk RecoveryService. r=vingtetun r=cjones
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# [00:46] <jduell> sicking: pong
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# [00:48] <sicking> jduell: we have a tricky situation where we want to make a network request and want to use a particular cookiejar to do so. But we don't have a docshell or window which uses that cookiejar around
# [00:48] <sicking> jduell: but we do have access to the channel
# [00:48] <sicking> jduell: this is for updates. Similar to the appcache APIs honza has been adding. But for packaged apps
# [00:49] <philor> edmorley|away: reftest-1 up, and we have a potential winner!
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# [00:49] <sicking> jduell: The best way to make this work would be to create our own nsILoadContext and stick that on the channel, right?
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# [00:50] <sicking> jduell: i.e. make the .notificationsCallback GetInterface return a "fake" nsILoadContext
# [00:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de06aeb3c7f3 - Michal Novotny - Bug 777445 - Network activity indicator for B2G, r=jduell
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# [00:51] <edmorley|away> philor: bonus :-)
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# [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd990a83194e - Isaac Aggrey - Bug 795351: Replace LL_MAXINT, LL_MININT, LL_MAXUINT with stdint versions; r=ehsan
# [00:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70ab9f476d86 - Isaac Aggrey - Bug 795351: Replace LL_MaxInt(), LL_MinInt(), LL_MaxUint() with stdint macros; r=ehsan
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# [00:56] <sicking> smaug: ping
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# [00:58] <@smaug> sicking: pong
# [01:00] <@smaug> is tbpl down?
# [01:00] <sicking> smaug: do you know what the plan is for bug 731746?
# [01:00] <edmorley|away> smaug: no; try clearing your cache
# [01:00] <sicking> smaug: iirc there was some discussion about that bug at the last DOM workweek
# [01:01] <jduell> sicking: yup. From C++ you can use docshell/base/LoadContext.cpp. From JS, roll your own?
# [01:01] <@smaug> sicking: yes there was. mccr8 was supposed to do something with it IIRC
# [01:01] <sicking> smaug: ok, i'll ping him
# [01:01] <sicking> jduell: cool, thanks
# [01:01] <@smaug> sicking: also I think bz or peterv took a picture of the whiteboard which had the pland
# [01:01] <@smaug> plan
# [01:02] <jduell> sicking: indeed it is!
# [01:02] <mccr8> sicking smaug: I was going to work on bug 785193, which is somehow a component of that.
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# [01:02] <mccr8> I haven't had a chance to work on it yet though.
# [01:02] <jgilbert> has anyone else experienced errors in nsChildView.mm with NS_OBJC_BEGIN_TRY_ABORT_BLOCK_NSRESULT, even though they haven't touched that file?
# [01:03] <jgilbert> when compiling on mac
# [01:03] <@smaug> mccr8: ah, right, that part
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# [01:03] <mccr8> I should start poking at that next week...
# [01:03] <jgilbert> without patch, no errors. With patch which doesn't touch that file, 'too many errors'
# [01:03] <sicking> mccr8: so we're going to wait for events to use WebIDL before fixing bug 731746?
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# [01:04] <@smaug> there shouldn't be any reason for that
# [01:04] <@smaug> also, we will always have nsIDOM*Events too
# [01:04] <mccr8> sicking: I have no idea of the bigger picture, just that one tiny piece, sorry.
# [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/564d554c4318 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 792220 - Remove lookupProperty to prevent interpreter reentrance. r=jandem
# [01:04] <sicking> mccr8: ok
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# [01:05] <sicking> smaug: the events are a much smaller problem I think. The question is about EventTarget
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# [01:06] <@smaug> sicking: yes. But whether or not EventTarget uses webidl or whether it is implementable in JS doesn't depend on events
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# [01:07] <sicking> smaug: indeed. Sorry, I meant to say "so we're going to wait for eventtarget to use WebIDL before fixing bug 731746?"
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# [01:08] <@smaug> actually, I think we have webidl-fied EventTarget prototype
# [01:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b176f299c52c - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 794286 - ReconstructPcStack, Keep hidden stack depth only when following gotos. r=luke
# [01:08] <Callek> philor: no rush to do so, but Android NoIon should be unhideable now
# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95c4704589e1 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 787309 - Fallback on try notes after continuing on a goto. r=luke
# [01:08] <Callek> philor: tests should begin to come in for it relatively soon
# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0401e945059d - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 787848 - Handle JSOP_THROWING opcode in the decompiler. r=luke
# [01:08] <@smaug> because XHR is webidl-fied
# [01:08] <edmorley|away> philor: would you be ok to watch a merge, if I did one now? (currently 162 changesets outstanding on inbound)
# [01:09] <edmorley|away> philor, Callek: I'll unhide
# [01:09] <Callek> edmorley|away: if philor's not ok -- and you're merging in a decently green push, I can help watch
# [01:09] <edmorley|away> ta :-)
# [01:10] <@smaug> Callek: could you perhaps watch also one tiny patch from me
# [01:10] <Callek> smaug: did it run through try?
# [01:11] <sicking> smaug: ok. I'm still very confused about when I can expect bug 731746 to be fixed :-)
# [01:11] <@smaug> yup, well, earlier version
# [01:11] <@smaug> but I just removed some unnecessary part
# [01:11] <Callek> smaug: ok, I'll agree to watch -- what bug so I have it
# [01:11] <@smaug> sicking: no idea. I guess when someone has time to work on that
# [01:11] <sicking> ok
# [01:11] <edmorley|away> Callek: android no-ion just m-c, inbound, try?
# [01:11] <Callek> edmorley|away: yes, iirc.
# [01:12] <@smaug> sicking: hasn't been in my todo list
# [01:12] <edmorley|away> thanks
# [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b274e8e3479f - Olli Pettay - Bug 794694 - Make sure to trace all the gray GCthings, not only wrapper, r=mccr8
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# [01:13] <Callek> smaug: should I be watching for perf drops explicitly for your patch?
# [01:13] <Callek> or is this more of a "something obvious" watch
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# [01:14] <@smaug> Callek: shouldn't affect to perf
# [01:14] <@smaug> might affect to leaks involving XHR
# [01:15] <@smaug> but really, it just makes CC to optimize one case less aggressively
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# [01:16] <sicking> philikon: also, there was some bug that I sr+'ed where you wanted me to take an extra look at something. I lost track of what that was though
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# [01:16] <@smaug> sicking: curious, why you asked about eventtarget?
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# [01:17] <@smaug> want to make b2g stuff to handle eventtarget more correctly ?
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# [01:17] <sicking> smaug: exactly
# [01:17] <sicking> smaug: get addEventListener working if nothing else
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# [01:17] <sicking> smaug: many interfaces just have .onfoo implemented :(
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# [01:19] <@gavin> khuey: inbound is open!
# [01:19] <sicking> land all the patches!!!
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# [01:20] <@smaug> sicking: anyhow, implementing eventtarget in js is mainly bindings/xpconnect stuff. pageJS<->C++<->ChromeJS. IIRC the idea was to use new bindings for pageJS, but still xpconnect for the chromejs stuff
# [01:20] <@smaug> ask peterv, he should know the details
# [01:20] <sicking> ok
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# [01:25] <froydnj> is there a way to get pushloghtml to show you commits by date range, rather than changeset range?
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# [01:26] <@smaug> froydnj: yes
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# [01:26] <@smaug> trying to remember how :)
# [01:27] <edmorley|away> froydnj: eg http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?startdate=2012-09-18&enddate=2012-09-21
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# [01:27] <edmorley|away> np
# [01:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dcc6a2d0bd16 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 775116 - Fix frame switching to work with id, name, and remote frames, r=mdas, DONTBUILD(NPOTB)
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# [01:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6228bc28958 - Jason Duell - Bug 786299 - Delete app-cache related to an app when uninstalled, part 1 r=jduell
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# [01:30] <bkero> So it's 1620 on friday and I'm doing this: http://woohoo-its-git.pastebin.mozilla.org/1848491
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# [01:32] <gkw> gps: hi
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# [01:33] <gkw> gps: i get this error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1848495 by doing `./mach xpcshell-test` after `./mach build`
# [01:33] <gkw> gps: known bug?
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# [01:34] <gkw> gps: and i took 68mins to compile using Mach on a beefy i7 machine on Linux :( I think I didn't set -j something?
# [01:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/189a1aaac345 - Ed Morley - Backout 67f93efc40c8 (bug 777583) for compilation errors on a CLOSED TREE
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# [01:36] <philor> edmorley|away: yeah, I can half-watch for the next 90 minutes, then I'll be out of work and able to actually watch
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# [01:36] <sicking> ddahl: so you landed with windows/osx tests disabled?
# [01:36] <ddahl> sicking: yes
# [01:37] <ddahl> sicking: linux is active
# [01:37] <sicking> ddahl: yup
# [01:37] <sicking> ddahl: not great obviously, but yes, we are only going to be using this on linux for now
# [01:37] <ddahl> sicking: looks like i go tit landed just in time
# [01:37] <ddahl> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=0153fec641e9
# [01:37] <ddahl> closed
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# [01:39] <edmorley|away> oh boy, marking bug 539356 as fixed is taking minutes... so many people to spam
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# [01:39] <edmorley|away> 89 CCed, 50 voted, and a bazillion dependent bugs
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# [01:41] <@dolske> again? :)
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# [01:42] <gps> gkw: the stack trace is the sad result of an implementation detail of how test suites are hooked up right now
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# [01:42] <gps> if you run individual tests, you shouldn't see that
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# [01:43] <gps> also, since mach is still going through client.mk, you will still need to define mk_add_options -j8 (or whatever) in your mozconfig
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# [01:43] <gkw> gps: I filed bug 795515
# [01:43] <gkw> (about the stack trace)
# [01:43] <gkw> gps: oh! i didn't know about -j8 :)
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# [01:43] <gkw> i thought mach was clever
# [01:44] <gkw> (well, it is much clever than make)
# [01:44] <gps> mach *is* clever. client.mk is holding it back!
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# [01:44] <gkw> gps: yes, i love mach too
# [01:44] <gps> I had to route through client.mk in order to get mach landed
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# [01:44] <gps> otherwise it would sit in review queues for 4 more months
# [01:44] <gkw> gps: in fact, i don't even have a mozconfig when i tested out mach
# [01:45] <jduell> eek--inbound looks flaming red again...
# [01:45] <gps> gkw: I /might/ be able to add a feature to mach where it intelligently adds make options despite going through client.mk. "it's complicated"
# [01:46] <edmorley|away> jduell: fixed by 189a1aaac345
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# [01:46] <gkw> gps: cool! it's great that you're working on this. client.mk and our make stuff can somewhat be a monstrosity
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# [01:47] <edmorley|away> any guesses what group 768126 is in?
# [01:47] <edmorley|away> it's not one of the usuals since I get not authorised
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# [01:50] <mccr8> edmorley|away: try asking in #jsapi or #ionmonkey?
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# [01:51] <mccr8> edmorley|away: also the IRC name you are looking for is djvj ;)
# [01:51] <edmorley|away> mccr8: it's non core-sec, or I could access, so suspect I'll need to be CCed by one of those two
# [01:52] <edmorley|away> ah, ta :-)
# [01:52] <mccr8> wrong bug number maybe? ;)
# [01:52] <edmorley|away> yeah maybe
# [01:52] <edmorley|away> :-(
# [01:52] <mccr8> I mean, it is just an IonMonkey bug, it doesn't seem like it should be anything weirder than core security...
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# [01:53] <edmorley|away> well yeah
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# [01:53] <edmorley|away> mccr8: the only other group that semi-regularly comes up that I can't access is the one that some sync bugs fall into; forge the name
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# [01:55] <Mook_as> hmm, are linux32 builds being done on a 32 bit linux machine, or cross-compiled from a 64 bit one? (I'm running out of memory linking libxul)
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# [01:55] <edmorley|away> mccr8: correct, wrong bug (786126)
# [01:55] <Callek> Mook_as: technically its a 64 bit machine, but in a 32 bit environment
# [01:55] <Callek> (now)
# [01:55] <mccr8> edmorley|away: ah thought it might be that, but I didn't see any inbound post in there...
# [01:56] <catlee-away> rstrong: Invalid command: ${GetPathFromString}
# [01:56] <catlee-away> Error in script "stub.nsi" on line 1222 -- aborting creation process
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# [01:58] <Mook_as> Callek: okay, so that means ld still can't allocate > 2G or so, right? I wonder what I'm doing wrong, then...
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# [01:59] <Mook_as> (both gnu ld and gold are dying for similar reasons here, of course.)
# [01:59] <catlee-away> Mook_as: yeah, it's a 32-bit toolchain
# [02:00] <Callek> Mook_as: I think its technically allowed 3GB for linking
# [02:00] <Callek> but yea
# [02:00] <Mook_as> thanks. let me go back and stare at things some more
# [02:00] <Mook_as> (the actual message was /usr/bin/ld.gold.real: fatal error: libxul.so: mmap: failed to allocate 2978488732 bytes for output file: Cannot allocate memory)
# [02:01] <rstrong> catlee-away: thanks for catching that.
# [02:01] <catlee-away> Mook_as: that's a lot
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# [02:02] <rstrong> philor edmorley|away: I have a one line followup I'd like to land on inbound. Can I land now with it closed or would you prefer I wait?
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# [02:02] <edmorley|away> rstrong: I'm just landing a backout to an unrelated JS failure, ok to land after
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# [02:03] <rstrong> edmorley|away: thanks
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# [02:04] <Mook_as> yes, 2.84 G is rather a lot :) it's the default gcc that ubuntu 12.04.1 came with, and things along those lines.
# [02:04] <edmorley|away> rstrong: done
# [02:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6a9cb1be492 - Ed Morley - Backout 564d554c4318 (bug 792220) for M2 JS assertions on a CLOSED TREE
# [02:07] <rstrong> edmorley|away: thanks and pushed
# [02:07] <edmorley|away> np
# [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e52c022991d - Robert Strong - Followup fix for Bug 322206 - Firefox net / stub installer (r=me) on a CLOSED TREE
# [02:08] * edmorley|away is about to get cross; someone is 3 for 3 on backouts of their pushes
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# [02:11] <gkw> edmorley|away: who? nbp?
# [02:12] <gkw> nbp did push some to try
# [02:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b903d1d1b861 - Ed Morley - Backout b176f299c52c (bug 794286), 0401e945059d (bug 787848), 95c4704589e1 (bug 787309) for make check jit_test failures on a CLOSED TREE
# [02:13] <edmorley|away> gkw: yeah
# [02:13] <catlee-away> yikes
# [02:13] <edmorley|away> gkw: I can't see a single Try URL in one of those bugs
# [02:13] <jduell> mconnor: ping
# [02:13] <@smaug> Mook_as: use gold
# [02:14] <@smaug> Mook_as: it uses a lot less memory
# [02:14] <jduell> Mook_as: it's a lot faster too. We should really put up some docs on it on MDN
# [02:14] <gkw> edmorley|away: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b1ba09d0a184
# [02:14] <gkw> edmorley|away: oranges on X were unrelated to his patch
# [02:15] <gkw> and M2 was green, as you can see
# [02:15] <gkw> edmorley|away: i've commented on the bugs
# [02:15] <edmorley|away> gkw: tree rules say to put URLs in bug
# [02:15] <jduell> Mook_as: on ubuntu it's just a matter of sudo apt-get install binutils-gold
# [02:15] <edmorley|away> ok
# [02:15] <philor> the bonus fun is that our build system is totally broken, again, so pushing to try only really matters if you clobber before you land
# [02:15] <gkw> edmorley|away: not that i'm defending him, but i'll let him know
# [02:15] <edmorley|away> ok, thank you
# [02:16] <philor> though if your try push burns Windows, and your push burns Windows, there's going to be some suspicion
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# [02:18] <Mook_as> smaug: I _am_ using gold; unless, of course, ld.gold.real isn't gold ;)
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# [02:19] <edmorley|away> gkw: we've just had a lot of bustage (again) tonight [as a |hg log -k 'backout' -r tip:-50| shows)
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# [02:20] <edmorley|away> and that doesn't even include -k 'followup'
# [02:21] <catlee-away> we really should fix that cancel -> clobber bug
# [02:21] <catlee-away> so many wasted builds going on
# [02:21] <mattwoodrow> edmorley|away: thanks for helping get DLBI landed
# [02:21] <edmorley|away> mattwoodrow: np :-)
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# [02:21] <edmorley|away> catlee-away: or at least provide an easier "cancel all safe things to cancel / don't start tests after these builds finish"
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# [02:22] <edmorley|away> rather than having to cancel one by one as they pop up
# [02:22] <edmorley|away> rstrong: still burning
# [02:22] <catlee-away> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666756
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# [02:23] <edmorley|away> yeah; I'm CCed :-)
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# [02:23] <edmorley|away> in the world of ponies and infinite time to write patches... :-)
# [02:23] <catlee-away> sounds like a good idea...Idon't know how to implement it though
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# [02:23] <catlee-away> the cancel -> clobber is probably easier
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# [02:23] <rstrong> edmorley|away: that is the same burning that started after my original push and prior to my push with a fix
# [02:24] <rstrong> as in it isn't due to either of my patches
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# [02:24] <rstrong> dying after Leaving directory 'e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32\build\obj-firefox\netwerk\streamconv'
# [02:25] <catlee-away> e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32\build\obj-firefox\dist\include\nsNetUtil.h(1364) : error C2589: '(' : illegal token on right side of '::'
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# [02:26] <nbp> edmorley|away: backout bug792220
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# [02:26] <rstrong> edmorley|away: looks like it started with 67f93efc40c8
# [02:27] <edmorley|away> rstrong: 67f93efc40c8 has already been backed out
# [02:27] <nbp> edmorley|away: 564d554c4318
# [02:28] <edmorley|away> nbp: so has 564d554c4318
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# [02:28] <rstrong> edmorley|away: not sure then but that build step has nothing to do with the installer and didn't happen when I landed or the run after my landing
# [02:29] <rstrong> it looked to me like it started with 67f93efc40c8
# [02:29] <catlee-away> win64 is still busted
# [02:29] <catlee-away> e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-dbg\build\obj-firefox\dist\include\nsNetUtil.h(1362) : error C2589: '(' : illegal token T e:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-dbg/build/netwerk/cache/nsDiskCacheDeviceSQL.cpp
# [02:30] <catlee-away> err, win32-debug
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# [02:30] <nbp> edmorley|away: all B would be orange after 564d554c4318
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# [02:31] <rstrong> The build before 67f93efc40c8 failed due to my checkin with "Invalid command: ${GetPathFromString}" very near the end of the build
# [02:32] <benjamin> so much red
# [02:32] <edmorley|away> rstrong: maybe clobber-needed, slave 07 failed the run prior
# [02:33] <edmorley|away> clobber;retriggered
# [02:33] <rstrong> edmorley|away: perhaps for those other backouts... definitely not for the installer
# [02:33] <edmorley|away> yeah 07 ran on 564d554c4318
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# [02:34] <NeilAway> gps: I just use make -s -j9 -f client.mk, cant mach do that?
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# [02:36] <gps> NeilAway: mach will invoke client.mk with -s and -j<number of cores>
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# [02:36] <NeilAway> gps: ok, so why does it need mk_add_options ?
# [02:36] <gps> you can change the -j value by creating a mach.ini file |./mach settings-create > mach.ini|
# [02:37] <gps> NeilAway: I'm pretty sure that |make -j8 client.mk| doesn't pass -j8 to the build system
# [02:37] <gps> maybe that changed recently. client.mk is a piece of crap
# [02:38] <dholbert> gps, IIRC that's correct about make -j8 client.mk not passing -j8 to the build system -- you have to specify that in your mozconfig
# [02:38] <NeilAway> gps: not sure what you mean about passing -j8
# [02:38] <NeilAway> gps: client.mk invokes $(MAKE) -C $objdir
# [02:38] <gps> yeah, I just confirmed that |make -j8 -f client.mk| doesn't proxy things to the build system
# [02:39] <gps> NeilAway: I'm aware of that. but the make flags it does that with come from mozconfig
# [02:39] <gps> they don't come from the make that invoked client.mk
# [02:39] <dholbert> NeilAway, at some level, we issue our own generated "make" commands, which use the flags in MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS instead of the flags that you invoked "make -whatever client.mk" with
# [02:39] <NeilAway> gps: isn't that the whole point of using $(MAKE) ?
# [02:39] <gps> the only thing proxied from client.mk to the build system is the path of the make that invoked client.mk
# [02:40] <gps> NeilAway: client.mk is so horrifically stupid that I've stopped asking questions
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# [02:40] <gps> I'm doing everything in my power to kill client.mk because it needs to die
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# [02:41] <NeilAway> dholbert: not *instead*
# [02:41] <edmorley|away> rstrong: if the clobbers come back failed, the only other push than yours, that hasn;t been backed out or isn't just a srcdir/b2g/* change, is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=WINNT&rev=bec7e68cad9a
# [02:41] <NeilAway> dholbert: they get added on
# [02:41] <NeilAway> dholbert: $(MAKE) $(MAKEFLAGS) -C $(OBJDIR)
# [02:41] <dholbert> NeilAway, orly?
# [02:41] <gps> anyway the answer to your question on why mach can't pass "-jN" automatically is because right now the make flags for the build system *must* be defined in mozconfigs
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# [02:41] <rstrong> edmorley|away: agreed
# [02:41] <NeilAway> dholbert: well, that's always worked for me before
# [02:42] <edmorley|away> rstrong: however it's 1:30am, so I'll leave it for you to duel with jduell over that pending retriggers
# [02:42] <gps> I just removed mk_add_options from my mozconfig and did |make -f client.mk -j8 -s| and A) no parallel builds B) no silent builds
# [02:42] <NeilAway> dholbert: obviously not everyone wants to type make -s -j9 -f client.mk when they can put the -s -j9 once and for all in their .mozconfig
# [02:42] <dholbert> NeilAway, I'm not 100% sure, so I'll let you and gps fight it out :)
# [02:42] <dholbert> plus I have to go in a few min. :)
# [02:43] <rstrong> edmorley|away: np. The build made it further after my initial checkin and the run after my checkin than it is making it now and prior to the fix I checked in.
# [02:43] <rstrong> This code builds after everything but the installer has been built
# [02:43] <rstrong> and everything isn't being built after 67f93efc40c8
# [02:44] <edmorley|away> rstrong: yeah; this would have been so much clearer if the parsed logs weren't such a mess
# [02:45] <jduell> blood, blood in the streets
# [02:45] <froydnj> NeilAway: they put -s -j9 in their mozconfig 'cause otherwise those options won't work :)
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# [02:47] <edmorley|away> of course the easier solution would just be to revert inbound to 70ab9f476d86 and be done with it...
# [02:47] <nbp> edmorley|away: 67f93efc40c8 cause a compilation error on OS10.7
# [02:48] <edmorley|away> nbp: yup
# [02:48] <froydnj> NeilAway: well, -s does, but -j doesn't thanks to the .NOTPARALLEL (I assume) in client.mk
# [02:48] <rstrong> jduell: the log for the Win Debug has errors in NetUtil
# [02:48] <rstrong> edmorley|away: ^^
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# [02:49] <gps> also, the rules for $(MAKEFLAGS) are funky
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# [02:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e34ef88d3b1e - Brian Smith - Bug 770243: Close cache input stream only when we're sure we don't need it in nsHttpChannel, r=bsmith for Honza's code, r=honzab for bsmith's changes, a=akeybl
# [02:49] <gps> https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Options_002fRecursion
# [02:49] <gps> and I have no clue if pymake adheres to all of those
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# [02:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/551152b8c271 - Ed Morley - Backout bec7e68cad9a & a6228bc28958 (bug 786299) for Windows compilation errors on a CLOSED TREE
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# [02:56] <jduell> edmorley|away: thanks, I was just about to do that...
# [02:56] <froydnj> guess friday is the day to break the tree :(
# [02:56] <edmorley|away> jduell: np
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# [02:57] <edmorley|away> os x xpcshell failures \o/
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# [02:58] <edmorley|away> jduell: bug 786299 too? ^
# [02:58] <edmorley|away> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15646473&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [03:00] <edmorley|away> thinks yes
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# [03:13] <Callek> froydnj: not friday, but "Last working day in quarter"
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# [03:31] <seth> anyone know the "skip-if" syntax for skipping a crashtest when doing crashtest-ipc?
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# [03:34] <seth> maybe browserIsRemote is what to look for?
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# [03:35] <@khuey> I believe so
# [03:35] <seth> khuey: thanks!
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# [03:45] <philor> wait, so the reason we screwed the tree, and screwed it again, and screwed it while we were screwing it, and screwed it again, is because MoCo makes you fill out TPS reports now? do you have to put the new cover sheets on them?
# [03:45] <@gavin> ?
# [03:46] <philor> repeated several times during the day, "it's because this is the last working day of the quarter"
# [03:47] <@gavin> well, that's dumb
# [03:47] <gps> it's like New Years Day. it's just an arbitrary day on a calendar. but, people go out and party anyway. it doesn't make any sense. we just do it
# [03:47] * philor plays guess which backout fixed this thing
# [03:48] <@gavin> one day either way isn't going to make a difference to anyone, and I don't know anyone who cares about quarterly goals to that level or precision
# [03:48] <Callek> philor, did backing out joe prove fruiteful as far as android reftests?
# [03:49] <Callek> or did it not help?
# [03:49] <philor> Callek: well, I'm looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=b6a9cb1be492
# [03:49] <philor> and not in a happy way
# [03:49] <philor> but as I've told people over and over, if your tests are constantly failing, you're not going to be able to use them to spot bustage
# [03:49] <Callek> gavin: I agree that its dumb, but thats the only reason I can account for the mad dash
# [03:50] <philor> and a few hundred reftest failures on android? that's a constant and a given
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# [03:51] <philor> so two instances since, and before it was close to one per push
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# [03:53] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&fromchange=ec0dcd401a3f&tochange=92530b29ac24
# [03:53] <philor> I don't like that, not one bit
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# [03:54] <Callek> yea that set looks -- well like it wasn't joe's fault
# [03:54] <Callek> which is even *MORE* puzzling
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# [03:55] <drs> any idea when inbound will open?
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# [03:57] <philor> depends, does your patch have the new cover sheet on it?
# [03:58] <drs> if by cover sheet you mean a try run, more or less
# [03:58] <philor> Good Lord! I've been in &onlyunstarred=1 pretty much the whole day, and I wish I'd stayed there
# [03:59] <drs> btw today is code freeze for b2g
# [03:59] <drs> if you didn't know
# [03:59] <drs> or feature freeze, rather
# [03:59] <aki> aha
# [03:59] <drs> though I looked through the pushes and not many looked b2g-related
# [04:01] <philor> so our biggest exposure right now is that it's been 12 pushes since we built on Windows? that's not so bad...
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# [04:03] <philor> the stub installer broke windows, the very next patch on top of it broke it again, and the installer has a bustage fix?
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# [04:06] <rstrong> philor: the fix landed
# [04:07] <philor> rstrong: right, I'm looking at what this tip build needs to tell me to tell me it's happy, and that's one of the things (which it already did, since it already got to make upload)
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# [04:07] <philor> and we don't test the installer because come on, how could you? so there's no tests I need to see finished
# [04:08] <benjamin> drs: has everything really landed to make a functional phone?
# [04:08] <philor> and everything else looks like it's already backed out :)
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# [04:13] <philor> OPEN, do your worst, and do it quick before someone else does
# [04:14] <philor> drs: PUSH!
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# [04:23] <philor> mmm, two slow script warnings just trying to open the tbpl comment form
# [04:23] <philor> nice failure, browser_tilt_!
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# [04:26] <drs> thanks philor
# [04:27] <philor> http://i.imgur.com/5aYbv.png
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# [04:29] <drs> I'll be watching the tree
# [04:29] <drs> so I'll back myself out if needed
# [04:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ab0484cae04 - Doug Sherk - Bug 784908: Part 2: Add a call to UpdateDimensions when a tab is first created r=cjones
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# [04:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4aa02fbdea6e - Chris Jones - Bug 784908: Part 0: Make this test actually test session history instead of scroll port clamping. irc-r=roc
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# [04:36] <philor> smaug: okay, I starred all your orange for you on m-c like the tree rules say I have to, do you want me to file your bug for your new orange while I file bent's bug for his new orange?
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# [05:16] <philor> oh, beta
# [05:16] <philor> beta beta beat
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# [05:18] <philor> bsmith: beta's xpcshell tests would like to speak with you
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# [05:19] <bsmith> thank you
# [05:20] <bsmith> philor: I know exactly the problem. We added some functions to our xpcshell harness in necko and those aren't in -beta
# [05:21] <bsmith> I will write a very small, test-code-only patch to correct the problem right now.
# [05:21] <philor> a nasty surprise more often found on esr10
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# [05:40] * Mook wonders if people who push to try normally care about performance regressions, or just compile / correctness
# [05:41] <jcranmer> Mook: I personally have a bad habit of forgetting to do some things like "add to package manifests"
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# [05:41] <jcranmer> or sometimes play compiler tricks that don't work on other platforms
# [05:41] <bsmith> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Beta&rev=bf691ea80fa4
# [05:41] <philor> bsmith: thanks
# [05:42] <Mook> right; I was basically wondering if defaulting try to using faster (i.e. not-standard-mac-mini) slaves all around, but opting in to the "production" style test slaves, would be beneficial
# [05:42] <philor> if you see someone running talos on try, it usually means they've been backed out over perf
# [05:42] <Mook> (since, AIUI, one of the bottlenecks is that those machines can't be found anymore)
# [05:43] <Mook> okay, so they probably care about the actual numbers.
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# [05:43] <philor> but a much more likely solution is to just drop the whole "run non-talos tests on talos slaves" thing
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# [05:45] <philor> thus the bugs about running Linux xpcshell (and anything else that will survive the move) on ec2, and bug 758624, and probably other things I've understood the meaning of even less
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# [06:01] <mjrosenb> guess it isn't ready yet?
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# [06:10] <nemo> bz_: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4588755 huh. really?
# [06:10] <nemo> so. is this something I need to worry about on my sites or what?
# [06:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0194ff64049 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 790547 - Part 1: IDL for sendEventDownload. r=philikon sr=sicking
# [06:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c249961afd99 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 790547 - Part 3: Add send Location Status Event in RIL. r=philikon
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# [06:12] <nemo> "
# [06:12] <nemo> Other browsers will likely adopt the change, but on their own timelines. Chrome is the first desktop browser to converge with mobile, but in time all other browsers are expected to follow suit. "
# [06:12] <nemo> http://updates.html5rocks.com/2012/09/Stacking-Changes-Coming-to-position-fixed-elements
# [06:13] <nemo> hrm. Hixie is mentioned, so apparently someone was in on these plans even if you weren't, bz...
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# [06:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33031c64f7d1 - Doug Sherk - Bug 786267: B2G: Lower resolution while doing accelerated panning r=cjones
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# [06:16] <sysKin> hi o/
# [06:17] <sysKin> suddenly one page can't be loaded, it says "File not found" no matter how much I refresh. it's something that was intermittent before. anything I can do to debug the problem?
# [06:17] <@bz_sleep> nemo: afaict that blog post is just lying
# [06:17] <@bz_sleep> nemo: but I'm willing to be proved wrong!
# [06:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4d33b66bfba - Yoshi Huang - Bug 793137 - Part 1: IDL for PLAY_TONE, POLL_INTERVAL and REFRESH. r=philikon. sr=sicking
# [06:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e60e324d1fa3 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 793137 - Part 2: Support PLAY_TONE, POLL_INTERVAL and REFRESH in RIL. r=philikon
# [06:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf8b676ae8d2 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 793137 - Part 3: xpcshell tests for Play Tone, Refresh and Poll Interval. r=philikon
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# [06:18] <@bz_sleep> nemo: I searched the list archives for meeting notes, and none mention this change
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# [06:24] <nemo> yay for market share leverage :)
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# [06:27] <sysKin> ow great, no wonder I can't use Bas' azure recording thingy
# [06:27] <sysKin> my Direct2D is "blocked for your graphics driver version"
# [06:27] <sysKin> but why?
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# [06:34] <@dolske> sysKin: incompatabilities / crashes, usually
# [06:35] <@dolske> bottom of about:support will sometimes note the reason, iirc.
# [06:35] <@dolske> upgrade video drivers, lather, rinse, repeat.
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# [06:46] <sysKin> dolske: the thing is, I have current radeon drivers and those were working since forever... I really didn't expect them to be disabled
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# [06:47] <@dolske> you can dig through teh changesets and bugzilla to find why, if you're curious.
# [06:47] <@dolske> could even be a bug! who knows!
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# [06:48] <sysKin> dolske: it could be: I have two graphics adaptors, hd5850 and intel hd for my second monitor. firefox has always used the primary (amd) one, but I wonder if it's possible for blacklist to disable accelerration because of intel's anyway
# [06:48] <sysKin> -r
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# [06:50] <sysKin> ...and the answer is no, it's still blacklisted with intel hd3000 switrched off
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# [06:52] <sysKin> oh well, let's switch to catalyst 12.9beta :]
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# [06:58] <sysKin> \o/ 12.9beta is not blacklisted
# [06:59] <Dagger> there's a pref... gfx.direct2d.force-enabled
# [06:59] <sysKin> now let's play with azure playback thingies
# [06:59] <Dagger> in my experience it usually won't eat your dog
# [06:59] <sysKin> Dagger yeah that was my next step if I couldn't get it to work. it's strange for current catalyst release to be blacklisted...
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# [07:01] <sysKin> now... anyone knows hot to use the Bas' playback thing? I have the recording file loaded and a bunch of events, but the largerst window (called "view"( is empty
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# [07:08] <philor> grr, and bent just had to push his conflicting with who knows what patch to m-c instead of m-i
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# [07:11] <nbp> How do we backout patches which have reached central?
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# [07:19] <philor> nbp: typically by backing them out on central, unless you're backing something out that there's no hurry about backing out
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# [07:21] <nbp> philor: there is a perf regression on awe fast yet and the 2 possible commits have reached central, it is not urgent to back them out of central, but it would be better to do so on inbound.
# [07:21] <nbp> s/awe/are we/
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# [07:53] <philor> cjones: it burns!
# [07:53] <cjones> what!
# [07:53] <cjones> no
# [07:53] <cjones> looking
# [07:53] <philor> oh, everybody's favorite, no space left on device
# [07:53] <cjones> "abort: No space left on device"
# [07:54] <philor> how big was that patch? ;)
# [07:54] <Callek> I blame the patch -- its not relengs fault
# [07:54] <Callek> :-P
# [07:54] <cjones> retriggered
# [07:54] <philor> yeah, nothing to do with that bug about how b2g builds don't clean up
# [07:54] <cjones> 250KB or so
# [07:54] <cjones> i really hope we're not that short on disk ...
# [07:55] <Callek> cjones: we're writing to a series of 10 floppy drives
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# [07:56] <Callek> much better than when we forced dolske to stand there and just feed the tape backup into the tinderbox machine
# [07:56] <cjones> ah, plenty of space for the patch then
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# [12:04] <Ms2ger> smaug, ping
# [12:04] <@smaug> Ms2ger: pong
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# [12:05] <Ms2ger> Do you know something about nsScriptCacheCleaner?
# [12:06] <@smaug> doesn't sound familiar
# [12:06] <@smaug> oh
# [12:06] <@smaug> did I write it :)
# [12:06] <Unfocused> lol
# [12:07] <nigelb> haha
# [12:07] <nigelb> that's getting qdb'd
# [12:07] <Ms2ger> Only reviewed it :)
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> We're getting some intermittent "nsScriptCacheCleaner not thread-safe" assertions
# [12:08] <@smaug> it should be main thread only
# [12:08] <@smaug> problem is elsewhere
# [12:08] <@smaug> who is releasing it
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# [12:10] <Ms2ger> I wish I knew :/
# [12:10] <@smaug> observerservice?
# [12:11] <Ms2ger> nsHttpConnectionMgr::nsConnectionHandle::Release()?
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# [12:12] <@smaug> looks like bogus stack then
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# [12:13] <no_gravity> Is there some 0-Day exploit out or something? Using Firefox, I have a link to dartsearch.net on the Google frontpage on machine where I freshly installed mint.
# [12:14] <Ms2ger> A google.com 0-Day?
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# [12:16] <no_gravity> Ms2ger: i would expect its my machine, not google. but i never had such a thing on a linux machine.
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# [12:17] <no_gravity> My ipad also shows that link!
# [12:17] <no_gravity> so whats going on? google hacked?
# [12:17] <Ms2ger> The other stack is "libSystem.B.dylib + 0x13373" -> nsScriptCacheCleaner::Release
# [12:17] <zzzzz_> google.com OK here
# [12:18] <no_gravity> zzzzz_: its on google.de and the link is the ad about the app store.
# [12:18] <zzzzz_> ahh
# [12:18] * zzzzz_ must of missed some context
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# [12:19] <no_gravity> zzzzz_: the text is "party with google! 25 million apps downloaded". roughly translated from german. or do they REALLY link to dartserch.net?
# [12:19] <Ms2ger> Thanks, I'll need it
# [12:19] <zzzzz_> no_gravity: no idea really - sorry
# [12:20] <no_gravity> i see its owned by doubleclick. so probably the really link there.
# [12:20] <no_gravity> false alarm :)
# [12:20] <Ms2ger> Ah, there's another one
# [12:20] <Ms2ger> Crashing in skia::`anonymous namespace'::ConvolveHorizontally<1>(
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# [12:26] <jaws> hi
# [12:26] <jaws> dangit, i'm backing it out
# [12:27] <Ms2ger> Thanks
# [12:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ccdb1019296 - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset f1c3d164cffc (bug 790112)
# [12:29] <jaws> is it possible to use text-overflow ellipsis on multiline text blocks?
# [12:29] <jaws> Ms2ger: maybe you know? all research shows "no"
# [12:29] <Ms2ger> I don't know
# [12:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da4714c5e564 - Robert Longson - Bug 729139 - Accept negative radius arcs in markup. r=jwatt
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# [12:37] <@smaug> Ms2ger: is it possible that we release scriptcache when the process goes away? there is static nsRefPtr<nsScriptCacheCleaner>
# [12:37] <@smaug> and I wonder if that all could run in non-main-thread
# [12:37] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that looked fishy to me too
# [12:37] <@smaug> but even in that case the bug would be elsewhere
# [12:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36d770df9bc6 - Eric Chou - Bug 794514 - patch 2: implemented newly added functions, r=qdot
# [12:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99e4fc2c74ef - Eric Chou - Bug 794514 - patch 1: Update DOM API, r=qdot, sr=mrbkap
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# [12:38] <@smaug> since we'd be missing xpcom-shutdown
# [12:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81b8598fb470 - Eric Chou - Bug 794514 - patch 3: added requests and completed call flow, r=qdot
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# [13:24] <Indig0> hi, I'm now working on a bug and I need to get current time (in ms), I am new in mozilla codebase and I am wondering if it is good idea to use standard C++ lib function for this or there is something else I should use?
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# [13:25] <Optimizer> man, sync is not syncing my 77 character pref :(
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# [13:31] <Ms2ger> Indig0, I think you want to look at mozilla::TimeStamp
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# [13:31] <Indig0> thanks!
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# [13:31] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [13:38] <evilpie> how do i put an nsAString into a class?
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# [13:39] <Ms2ger> Use an nsString, typically
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# [13:41] <evilpie> that seems to compile \o/
# [13:45] <evilpie> what is the name of channel for blob uris ?
# [13:45] <Ms2ger> nsBlobURIChannel? :)
# [13:45] <Ms2ger> Nope, not it
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# [13:57] <NeilAway> were there some recent build errors on Windows? I'm getting link failures for getPrototypeOf, SetGlobalEventRecorder and CreateEventRecorderForFile
# [13:57] <Ms2ger> Doesn't ring a bell
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# [14:00] <capella> i had a build error die in link yesterday or day before after a pull ... WIN7 ... clobber fixed it
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# [14:06] <Ms2ger> Who wants to file a test_pointerlock-api.html failure + 600 bytes leak?
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# [14:16] <evilpie> Ms2ger: how could i find out which kind of channel blobs use?
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# [14:18] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsBlobProtocolHandler.cpp#136 maybe?
# [14:22] <evilpie> so nsInputStreamChannel : public nsBaseChannel
# [14:22] <evilpie> looks like i need to put some magic into nsBaseChannel
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# [14:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1f7dbc3b3baf - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 795580 - Stub shouldn't be copied when it isn't built. r=bbondy
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# [14:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/466d49964ff1 - Jonathan Kew - bug 674373 pt 3 - remove unused nsBaseWidget::SetBounds method. r=roc
# [14:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/550641381dfa - Jonathan Kew - bug 674373 pt 5 - provide a fullZoom API in nsIDOMWindowUtils, and use this rather than inferring zoom from CSS to device pixel ratio. r=roc
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# [14:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e8929729b4c - Jonathan Kew - bug 674373 pt 4 - pass device-to-CSS pixel ratio to LookAndFeel code when requesting a font style. r=roc
# [14:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66bc6ceca2f3 - Markus Stange - bug 674373 pt 1 - Mac OS X native theme rendering support for HiDPI display. r=smichaud
# [14:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d715c595838 - Jonathan Kew - bug 674373 pt 2 - consistently use client bounds for layer sizing. r=roc
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# [15:04] <evilpie> i am the only one who thinks https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Release_Tracking is kind of sad?
# [15:04] <mounir> edwin: the WFM random oranges do not appear in the suggestion list?
# [15:06] <mounir> arf, I meant edmorley
# [15:06] <mounir> but he isn't here...
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> They should, just struck through
# [15:07] <mounir> I wonder coz lately I've been quite bothered by the long list of fixed suggestions
# [15:08] <mounir> which is distracting and sometimes I wonder if it's a random orange to re-open or a new one, or something I wasn't able to match
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# [15:14] <JuanDaugherty> evilpie, why is that?
# [15:14] <evilpie> JuanDaugherty: because it seems to missing a lot of thinks that are actually happening
# [15:14] <JuanDaugherty> ah
# [15:15] <JuanDaugherty> g
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# [15:20] <evilpie> Ms2ger: it's working again with the new approach :)
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# [15:25] <nemo> bz_: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4588910 just a link to zindex spec
# [15:26] <nemo> hum. do those spec pages have a revision history like wikipedia?
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# [15:27] <Ms2ger> No
# [15:27] <Ms2ger> There's an appendix with changes, though
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# [16:30] <mkohler> when starting a build, I see a lot of "make: execvp: /media/Data/development/mozilla/mozilla-central/build/autoconf/config.guess: Permission denied" and other files it can't run even though permissions are right
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# [16:47] <edmorley> philor|away: I apologise in advance
# [16:47] <edmorley> :-)
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# [17:04] <RyanVM> edmorley+++++
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> RyanVM++
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> edmorley++
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> philor++
# [17:04] <RyanVM> edmorley: are you removing the [orange] from them too?
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# [17:05] <edmorley> RyanVM: no we don't normally when individually marking WFM
# [17:05] <RyanVM> edmorley: won't they still show up in the suggestions then?
# [17:05] <@bz_sleep> nemo: you still there?
# [17:05] <edmorley> RyanVM: what I would like to do soon though, is improve the TBPL UX for bug suggestions (ie hide resolved under a "show more", unless tree is non-trunk)
# [17:05] <Ms2ger> So, is b2g frozen or should we preemptively close the tree?
# [17:06] <RyanVM> edmorley: that sounds like a good plan
# [17:06] <edmorley> RyanVM: old oranges do come back sometimes, so helpful to not remove annotation
# [17:06] <Ms2ger> edmorley, clearly you should look at the target milestone and show the ones that apply to the current tree :)
# [17:06] <edmorley> yeah cos people are so diligent at using it... ;-)
# [17:06] <Ms2ger> m-cMerge to the rescue :)
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# [17:07] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: is it nearing a release or something? (/me isn't really following b2g development very closely)
# [17:07] <edmorley> RyanVM: friday was feature freeze
# [17:07] <RyanVM> ah
# [17:07] <edmorley> well first round of, or something
# [17:07] <nemo> bz_sleep: yep
# [17:07] <nemo> always idling :)
# [17:07] <RyanVM> my concern is how few of the b2g patches I push to inbound have tests with them
# [17:07] <edmorley> and end of this month (ie this weekend) is end of quarter 3 for goals too
# [17:07] <nemo> just more so now w/ new kid
# [17:08] <edmorley> bah, bugzilla mass change form broke for the second time
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# [17:09] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, don't worry, they're tested somewhere you can't see
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> On hardware that isn't supported
# [17:09] <edmorley> open-web++
# [17:09] <@bz_sleep> nemo: basically, the "html5rocks" people are lying
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> Big surprise
# [17:10] <@bz_sleep> nemo: there was a proposal to change the spec. Mozilla and Opera were against.
# [17:10] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: shouldn't I at least be seeing some sort of marionette test included in the patch, even if I can't see the results of it being run?
# [17:10] <nemo> bz_sleep: ah.
# [17:10] <@bz_sleep> nemo: so they're trying to force the issue by just unilaterally violating the spec and hoping sites follow.
# [17:10] <nemo> got that impression
# [17:10] <@bz_sleep> nemo: and that this will force other UAs to follow.
# [17:10] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, eh
# [17:10] <nemo> 00:13 < nemo> yay for market share leverage :)
# [17:11] <nemo> bz_sleep: but, you know, we kinda will have to
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> <-- cynical
# [17:11] <nemo> well. possibly
# [17:11] <RyanVM> edmorley: but seriously, what you're doing is well overdue. Thanks for undertaking it
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> But I guess you knew that :)
# [17:11] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I prefer "realist" :P
# [17:11] <nemo> bz_sleep: really depends on how bad the chrome rendering bugs are. we've had minor ones in the past in Chrome (and Firefox) that weren't worth worrying about
# [17:11] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: and given that my official job is as a quality engineer, "corrective action" is an important part of what I do :P
# [17:11] <nemo> guess I need to do a comprehensive rundown of all the sites in Chrome22. thanks google :(
# [17:12] * Ms2ger wanders off for a bit while libxul links
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, you have a job? ;)
# [17:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: not to mention that Gecko at least in theory has a policy requiring tests for all checkins when feasible
# [17:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: amazingly enough, yes
# [17:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: of course, that policy seems to have relaxed considerably
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> We also have a theoretical policy that patches get reviewed by peers
# [17:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: used to be part of the review process
# [17:13] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: yeah, I gave up on beating that drum
# [17:13] <RyanVM> i made a stink about it a few times and was basically told that it wasn't a practical policy
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Well, no
# [17:13] <@bz_sleep> Most checkins do have tests, no?
# [17:14] <Ms2ger> Because half of those patches wouldn't be able to land if we enforced it
# [17:14] <@bz_sleep> we have some areas we have no test infra for...
# [17:14] <RyanVM> bz_sleep: not form what I see
# [17:14] <@bz_sleep> RyanVM: interesting
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# [17:14] * @bz has mostly been looking at patches he writes or reviews
# [17:14] <RyanVM> bz_sleep: though I usually annoy about it when I push checkin-needed patches and now do so when doing inbound merges
# [17:14] <RyanVM> though it also seems that many don't know about or ignore in-testsuie?
# [17:15] <@bz> well, the in-testsuite flag is slightly useless
# [17:15] <@bz> imo
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# [17:15] <@bz> e.g. we never do anything with the "in-testsuite?" bugs
# [17:15] <RyanVM> but my main point is that it used to be part of the review process
# [17:15] <@bz> it still is in DOM...
# [17:15] <RyanVM> now it's a "should this have a test" afterthought
# [17:15] <Ms2ger> To be fair, I also ignore in-testsuite since it's hidden in a dropdown
# [17:15] * @bz clearly hasn't been dealing with other parts of the organization much
# [17:15] <@bz> or something
# [17:15] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: not when it's set
# [17:15] <Ms2ger> bz, is this the same DOM the b2g people work on?
# [17:15] <RyanVM> heh
# [17:15] <@bz> Ms2ger: "no" ;)
# [17:16] <RyanVM> I have a few b2g dom patches in my landing queue without tests :P
# [17:16] <@bz> though the b2g patches I've reviewed have all had tests
# [17:16] <@bz> Then again, they were all written by jlebar
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> Would you have r+'d them if they hadn't? :)
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# [17:17] <RyanVM> bz: Ms2ger: and I suppose I'm on my soapbox partially because of a bug that recently regressed where I asked about a test the first time around, an attempt was made at creating one but not finished, and forgotten about
# [17:17] * Ms2ger is somewhat annoyed by libxul linking taking 96% of his RAM
# [17:18] <RyanVM> and yes, it was an invalidation bug, so I'm sure it wasn't easy
# [17:19] <Ms2ger> Then there was that one time I complained there was no test, and a while later a bug got filed that pointed out that the patch was completely bogus
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# [17:19] <RyanVM> bz: but I guess the other concern is that I'm concerned about how well the "must have a test" policy is even being communicated these days
# [17:19] <RyanVM> lots of new people involved doing reviews
# [17:20] <nemo> bz: http://chrisvalleskey.com/chrome-22-breaks-everything/ hm. Firefox renders differently too?
# [17:20] <nemo> huh
# [17:20] <RyanVM> and that policy was created back in the Fx3 era or so?
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# [17:23] <@bz> RyanVM: yeah, not sure how well all the new people are getting the message
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# [17:24] <@bz> nemo: renders what different;y from what?
# [17:24] <@bz> nemo: that url is giving me a DNS lookup failure
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# [17:25] <WG9s> same here
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# [17:30] <nemo> oh?
# [17:30] <WG9s> actaully both authoritatve dns servers get a SERVFAIL error
# [17:30] <nemo> bz: "Update: Looks like the newer versions of Firefox will render it differently than depicted in the screenshot. Firefox 14 and 15 look like this."
# [17:31] <nemo> bz: $ dnsip chrisvalleskey.com
# [17:31] <nemo> 66.228.62.103
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# [17:33] <WG9s> actaully there are 5 ns servers for that domain they are all refusing to answer queries
# [17:33] <WG9s> you must have this cached
# [17:34] <Yoric> atm, can I use autoland-try on bugzilla?
# [17:34] <WG9s> a conspiracy theorist would think this is censorship it seems his dns provider has disabled resolution for the domain
# [17:35] <@bz> nemo: The requested URL /chrome-22-breaks-everything/ was not found on this server.
# [17:35] <@bz> nemo: when using the IP
# [17:35] <@bz> nemo: I have no idea what he's talking about
# [17:37] <Ms2ger> Yoric, still broken, I think
# [17:37] <Yoric> :/
# [17:37] <Yoric> Ok, thanks.
# [17:37] <evilpie> bz: when looking at this http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/zindex.html how do you find the last change date?
# [17:37] <Ms2ger> The date at the top of http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21
# [17:37] <Ms2ger> 2010 somewhere?
# [17:38] <evilpie> ah interesting
# [17:39] <Ms2ger> There are errata and an ED, but I'm not sure if the latter is public
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# [17:44] <WG9s> bz: might be a virtual server if so you need to ahdd the ip to the hosts file so that you can access with the correct name
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# [17:45] <@bz> evilpie: the change date is the REC date
# [17:46] <@bz> evilpie: 07 June 2011
# [17:46] <@bz> evilpie: Errata at http://www.w3.org/Style/css2-updates/REC-CSS2-20110607-errata.html
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# [17:46] <nemo> bz: overloaded site maybe - ycombinator link and all
# [17:46] <nemo> bz: http://m8y.org/tmp/bz/
# [17:47] <@bz> nemo: oh, the float thing
# [17:47] <@bz> nemo: looking into that
# [17:47] <nemo> bz: btw, noticed over my lurking in the past. ycombinator folks. big chrome fans :)
# [17:47] <@bz> nemo: heh
# [17:48] <nemo> I mean. disproportionately. stats seem to bear it out when they post visitor counts
# [17:48] <@bz> nemo: his float thing renders identically in fx4 and current trunk for me
# [17:48] <nemo> oh good
# [17:48] <@bz> nemo: and like his "chrome 22" screenshot
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# [17:49] <nemo> odd he got different results. PEBKAC, or a mime type or something?
# [17:49] <@bz> nemo: dunno
# [17:49] <@bz> nemo: not sure what the right behavior here is per spec
# [17:49] <nemo> gee. that sounds familiar
# [17:49] <WG9s> nnemo: i see you already saved this on a nother server. I was about to do that myself.
# [17:50] <@bz> nemo: I _think_ it might be the one Opera has, actually
# [17:50] <@bz> nemo: where the text is below the "Floats" line
# [17:50] <Ms2ger> Sounds like CSS
# [17:50] <@bz> nemo: but I'd have to go read carefully to make sure.
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# [17:53] <WG9s> Update on conspiracy theory, this also fails for me when I am not using google public dns.
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# [17:55] <nemo> WG9s: heh. I think it is just load. I use opendns + local djbdns cache :)
# [17:55] <nemo> maybe on a hosted server so giving wonky errors?
# [17:55] <Yoric> Optimizer: ping
# [17:55] <WG9s> no he is defeinteily using a dns service provider that has shut off access to his domain. maybe didn;t pay the bill or something
# [17:56] <nemo> ahhh
# [17:56] <nemo> p'raps my cache settings are saving me
# [17:56] <nemo> yay for over aggressive DNS caching :D
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# [17:59] <WG9s> the servers all all in linode.com
# [17:59] <Optimizer> Yoric: pong
# [17:59] <WG9s> they respond to queries in linode.com but are refusing queries for chrisvalleskey.com
# [17:59] <Yoric> Optimizer: Exactly what features do you need from OS.File?
# [17:59] <Optimizer> read and write
# [17:59] <Optimizer> :|
# [18:00] <Yoric> I am currently changing some code to better fit with other libraries, and this might require slight API changes.
# [18:00] <Yoric> Reading and writing what?
# [18:00] <Yoric> Strings?
# [18:00] <NeilAway> capella/Ms2ger: it's the "new .lib not copied to dist/lib so that linking against it fails because the symbols are wrong" again, this time with mozjs.lib instead of xul.lib
# [18:00] <Optimizer> no files
# [18:00] <Optimizer> what do you mean by string ?
# [18:00] <Yoric> No, I mean, what are you going to put in these files?
# [18:00] <Yoric> Some string content, I assume.
# [18:00] <Optimizer> I will write some json into a file
# [18:01] <Optimizer> might be compressed jsons
# [18:01] <Yoric> ok
# [18:01] <Optimizer> still a string only
# [18:01] <Yoric> Just so that you know: reading/writing text is actually the feature that has not landed yet.
# [18:01] <Optimizer> then what has ?
# [18:01] <Yoric> (as it requires Unicode conversion)
# [18:01] <Optimizer> what do you mean by atomic read write from main thread
# [18:01] <Yoric> reading/writing arraybuffers, copy, move, walk directories, remove files, remove directories
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# [18:02] <Optimizer> arrayBuffers as in ?
# [18:02] <Optimizer> I can have byte data too
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> ArrayBuffer, the JS API
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> Google "Typed Arrays"
# [18:02] <Optimizer> did
# [18:03] <Optimizer> so I have this algorithm LZW compression, that compresses strings
# [18:03] <Optimizer> it can return binary data also, I guess
# [18:04] <Optimizer> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/LZW_compression
# [18:04] <Optimizer> what I will actually want is to read and write output from this algorithm
# [18:05] <Yoric> I have to go.
# [18:05] <Yoric> For lzw, there should be no problem.
# [18:05] <Yoric> Talk to you later.
# [18:06] <Optimizer> ok :)
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# [18:08] <Ms2ger> Hey, guys who compile clang
# [18:08] <Ms2ger> How long does that take?
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# [18:09] <@smaug> edmorley likes to do some spamming
# [18:09] <Ms2ger> Dat edmorley
# [18:09] <@bz> Msger: on my hardware, order of 15 mins at most, I think
# [18:09] <@bz> er, ms2ger: ^
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# [18:10] <Ms2ger> bz, thanks
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# [18:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eef8fce038aa - Dão Gottwald - Bug 774009 - uncaught JS exception while running browser_overflowScroll.js (TypeError: aTab.linkedBrowser is null). r=gavin
# [18:11] <Ms2ger> mounir, yt?
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# [18:13] <mounir> Ms2ger: yep?
# [18:13] <Ms2ger> mounir, have time for a few reviews?
# [18:13] <Ms2ger> Nothing too big ;)
# [18:13] <mounir> Ms2ger: not *now*
# [18:13] <mounir> but sure
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# [18:14] <Ms2ger> mounir, today? (just wondering whether I should put them in my queue for pushing tomorrow or not)
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# [18:16] <mounir> Ms2ger: depends on how easy it is
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# [18:20] <edmorley> smaug: still 180 left; having to do them in batches since the mass change form times out
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# [18:50] <RattyAway> ok who's the SpecialPowers/test writing expert around here?
# [18:50] <Ms2ger> Just ask
# [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6f2ba68e685 - Jim Mathies - Bug 795307 - Use telemetry to report touch enabled device stats. r=nfroyd
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# [18:53] <RattyAway> I'm trying to do something like:
# [18:53] <RattyAway> ("@mozilla.org/suite/shell-service;1" in SpecialPowers.Components.classes) ?
# [18:53] <RattyAway> And getting:
# [18:53] <RattyAway> Error: TypeError: invalid 'in' operand SpecialPowers.Components.classes
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# [18:59] <@smaug> grr, nightly is crazy
# [18:59] <@smaug> er, I was going to write crashy :)
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# [19:01] <Ms2ger> RattyAway, try SpecialPowers.Cc
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# [19:05] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: will do.
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# [19:12] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: yay works
# [19:12] <RattyAway> Passed: 1866
# [19:12] <RattyAway> Failed: 0
# [19:12] <RattyAway> Todo: 0
# [19:12] <RattyAway> thanks for the tip!
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# [19:13] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [19:15] <RattyAway> BTW I was cargo-culting from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/test/test_contextmenu.html?force=1#23
# [19:16] <RattyAway> The reason why this firefox test doesn't fail is that Cc isn't actually used.
# [19:16] <RattyAway> unlike my test :P
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# [19:39] <ZER0> hi there, anyone could help me a bit with PopupNotifications?
# [19:39] <ZER0> hi there, anyone could help me a bit with PopupNotifications?
# [19:40] <ZER0> ops. sorry :)
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# [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e63fa4a848a - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 795134 - Remove localStorage when clear private data API is used. r=bent
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# [20:02] <nemo> hrm. opening a .deb in nightly of google talk - "there isn't a file called file: in your current software sources" not sure if it is firefox to blame or ubuntu software centre, but I'm inclined to blame nightly since it happens every time I click on the .deb in the download manager
# [20:03] <nemo> and ubuntu software centre normally has no problem opening a proper file path
# [20:03] <nemo> "There isn’t a software package called “file:” in your current software sources." - exact error
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# [20:05] <nemo> same thing happens if I click the folder icon in download manager and explicitly specify firefox open w/ software-center
# [20:05] <nemo> bleah
# [20:05] <RyanVM> for the record, it is *AWESOME* when a major change lands on a Friday afternoon
# [20:06] <Ms2ger> nemo, try saving the .deb and opening it directly from the file system
# [20:06] <evilpie> it's Saturday ...
# [20:07] <RyanVM> evilpie: dlbi landed yesterday...
# [20:08] <evilpie> just messing with you :)
# [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4935822abf87 - Etienne Segonzac - Bug 795164 - Preventing DOMApplicationRegistry from broadcasting the same message to the same message manager multiple times. [r=fabrice]
# [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddee22deae16 - Timothy Guan-tin Chien - Bug 793082 - Allow sendChromeEvent to queue the events until window.onload fires, r=fabrice
# [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eae519534b01 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 772364 - Implement update mechanism for packaged apps [r=gwagner]
# [20:08] <RyanVM> evilpie: but I misspoke - landed Friday morning
# [20:09] <RyanVM> but merged Friday evening
# [20:09] <RyanVM> either way, awesome time for it
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# [20:14] <Optimizer> in javascript, if a string is of 10 characters, its size is 10bytes ?
# [20:14] <nemo> Ms2ger: yeah. that's what I ended up doing
# [20:14] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, 20, probably
# [20:14] <nemo> Ms2ger: well. it was already in /tmp
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# [20:14] <nemo> so. just typed software-center /tmp/nameof.deb
# [20:14] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: and what about 10 integers ?
# [20:15] <Optimizer> there is no actual function to check the size of any object, right ?
# [20:15] <Optimizer> even if its Fx specifric
# [20:15] <evilpie> Optimizer: 20 or 22 bytes
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# [20:16] <Optimizer> evilpie: for 10 char string, or 10 integers ?
# [20:16] <evilpie> 10 char string
# [20:16] <evilpie> 2 byte per char + 2 bytes for the null char sometimes
# [20:17] <Optimizer> and if I have an array of 10 integers ?
# [20:17] <evilpie> well you have the size of an object
# [20:17] <evilpie> and you have the size of the backing storage
# [20:17] <evilpie> we do nan boxing so 8 bytes per int
# [20:17] <Optimizer> 8 bytes ?
# [20:18] <Optimizer> per int :O
# [20:19] <evilpie> well a double is 8 bytes
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# [20:19] <evilpie> and a basic object has 4 * sizeof(ptr)
# [20:19] <evilpie> so on 32bit 16 bytes
# [20:20] <evilpie> than some extra space for the array storage
# [20:20] <Optimizer> do you know of LZW compression ?
# [20:20] <Optimizer> it gives output in int, so basically I would be wasting a lot of space then
# [20:20] <Optimizer> :|
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# [20:21] <evilpie> could you use Int32Array ?
# [20:21] <Optimizer> but I don't know if its output is that or not
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# [20:21] <Optimizer> I am seeing these various algos on net, all return integer array
# [20:22] <Optimizer> how to incorporate typed arrays there :(
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# [20:23] <jcranmer> JS is not optimized for binar yalgorithms
# [20:24] <jcranmer> the typed arrays are probably your best bet
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# [20:26] <RyanVM> am I the only one not seeing completed builds on tbpl?
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# [20:26] <RyanVM> from recent pushes, that is
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# [20:31] <RyanVM> anybody?
# [20:31] <RyanVM> I'm about to file a blocker RelEng bug and would love some confirmation from someone
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# [20:32] <jcranmer> bz_away: x-imap4-modified-utf7 is the encoding of UTF-7 used for IMAP mailbox names, which replaces the characters used to escape the base64
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# [20:34] <RyanVM> well, I filed bug 795624 for it
# [20:34] <RyanVM> hopefully I didn't just sound the alarms for nothing...
# [20:35] <RyanVM> i'm closing the trees now too
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# [20:44] <WG9s> RyanVM: I am seeing the same
# [20:44] <RyanVM> thank you
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# [20:44] <RyanVM> I have no clue if blocker releng bugs ping someone IRL
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# [20:48] <fabrice> RyanVM: maybe you could just re-open try? usgin the self-serve API is good enough for people that needs to follow their own builds
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# [20:50] <Ms2ger> "I know that you may think this is SPAM, but believe me, it really is not spam"
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# [20:52] <Ms2ger> Oh noooo
# [20:52] <capella> Mr. Bill ! A11y in the house
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# [20:55] <edmorley> RyanVM: only some IT bugs page someone
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# [21:14] <WG9s> RyanVM: not sure but i think what we are seeing means there is a some kind of issue with ht elogs
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# [21:21] <Optimizer> Yoric: so for an int32 array buffer, what are the steps for using OS.file ?
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# [21:39] <NeilAway> gps: watching my make -s -j9 -f client.mk build using top clearly shows 9 cc1plus processes
# [21:39] <NeilAway> (^^^ also dholbert/froydnj)
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# [21:43] <NeilAway> lol @ "Try is hogging resources needed by _Try_"
# [21:43] <NeilAway> edmorley|away: ah, the joys of being a contributor :-)
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# [22:02] <aja> guess you're aware of m-c (win64) nightly startup crash following update?
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# [22:03] * aja is currently d/l'ing later pgo build
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# [22:07] <zzzzz> aja: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795594
# [22:08] <philor> RyanVM: there's all that orange you've been waiting for :)
# [22:13] <aja> latest hourly at least gives opportunity to start in safe mode
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# [22:19] <aja> hourly with merge http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/df69d95f636c seems ok.
# [22:20] <aja> no plugins/extensions, fwiw
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# [22:24] <zzzzz> aja: that build is before DBLI landed
# [22:25] <philor> fabrice: is just one part of your inbound push clearly at fault, or should I back all three out?
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# [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25041824911b - Phil Ringnalda - Back out eae519534b01 (bug 772364), 4935822abf87 (bug 795164) and ddee22deae16 (bug 793082) for orange on a CLOSED TREE
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# [22:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd82278e2bb8 - Gary Kwong - Bug 696305 - Suppress another cross architecture bug. DONTBUILD
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# [22:47] <smontagu> so is inbound open or closed?
# [22:48] <Callek> smontagu: https://treestatus.mozilla.org/mozilla-inbound says open
# [22:49] <Callek> and since treestatus is so easy to update you can actually trust its accurate
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# [22:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72e03ee74f40 - Simon Montagu - Add vendor prefix to :dir selector. Bug 562169, r=dbaron
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# [22:56] <Callek> smontagu: does that retain :dir() support?
# [22:56] <Callek> smontagu: if not, you just broke a lot of rtl languages
# [22:56] <Callek> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?string=%3Adir&case=on&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=comm-central (see the stuff in mozilla/browser/themes
# [22:57] <smontagu> Callek: oh what a tangled web :(
# [22:57] <Callek> smontagu: I mean in-app, not even wide-web
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# [22:58] <Callek> smontagu: good news is, neither TB nor Suite have |:dir(rtl)| used in any selectors
# [22:58] <Callek> so you only need to patch m-c
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# [22:58] <Callek> ;-)
# [22:58] <smontagu> that's the good news? :-P
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# [22:59] <Callek> smontagu: I'll let you decide if you can fix quick, or if you should backout until that stuff is fixed ;-)
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# [23:00] <Callek> ...I know, who would have thought I'd have even a semblance of a life
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# [23:32] <smontagu> the question is whether I can get a quick review for the quick fix
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# [23:42] <jaws> smontagu: shouldn't Bug 562169 have target milestone of mozilla18?
# [23:43] <smontagu> well strictly speaking i sspect these followups should have their own bugs with milestione=mozilla18
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# [23:44] <jaws> yeah
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# [23:45] <jaws> from glancing at the bug, it looks like nothing in that bug stuck with mozilla17 though
# [23:46] <smontagu> 17 was august 28 wasn't it?
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# [23:47] <jaws> smontagu: sorry, i misread the bug. you're right
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