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# [00:09] <smaug> mattwoodrow|away: ping
# [00:09] <smaug> or anyone
# [00:10] <smaug> anyone willing to backout Bug 539356
# [00:10] <smaug> nightly is totally unsable atm
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# [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffa6a1423baf - Chris Jones - Bug 794188: Check the fmradio permission at process boundaries. r=jlebar
# [00:20] <catlee-away> jlebar|away: does this make any sense? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1850185
# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6676711a510b - Fabrice Desré - Bug 772364 - Implement update mechanism for packaged apps [r=gwagner]
# [00:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d34057e17d8 - Timothy Guan-tin Chien - Bug 793082 - Allow sendChromeEvent to queue the events until window.onload fires, r=fabrice
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# [00:25] <philor> okay, updates are disabled, and we pretty clearly need some better way to notice that nightlies are totally busted
# [00:25] <philor> also, why aren't we crashing running tests?
# [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d95f2229451e - Stephen Horlander - Bug 783778 - Update Google search favicon for mobile. r=margaret
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# [00:32] <@smaug> do we have a way to push previous, not so crashy build to nightly channel?
# [00:33] <zzzzz> I'm not crashing on nightly - but I don't use Facebook or Gmail
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# [00:34] <philor> edmorley|away: don't suppose you know whether there are dlbi bits other than the ones in bug 539356 that I have to back out too?
# [00:34] <philor> zzzzz: or win64? or is the "on startup, for everyone" there not true?
# [00:35] <zzzzz> no, I don't use win64 bit builds - win32 here
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# [00:35] <philor> good for you, safer to stick with things that are actually tested :)
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# [00:38] <philor> ah, two pushes, 22 csets, six or seven bugs
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# [00:41] <cjones> yeah that's why i think fixing this crash might be easier
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# [00:41] <philor> I'm all for that
# [00:42] <zzzzz> If all the tests that are run during build, I myself don't think backing out will help find the actual crashes - might be best to just suffer through and see if an easy fix pops up
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# [00:43] <philor> I presume you mean for the non-win64 crashes, since the win64 people are now gone, just sitting there repeatedly double-clicking the icon, crashing, double-clicking
# [00:44] * zzzzz nods - yep
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# [00:45] <zzzzz> a fews weeks ago they were looking for a way to get the 64bit folks back on real-train - maybe this it :)
# [00:46] <zzzzz> or are the 64bit linux builds and OSX crashing - then that's different since most if not all devs use Linux or OSX
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# [00:48] <philor> that was probably people who've forgotten about the elephant that the product team wants to be able to ship win64 by early next year
# [00:48] <philor> a class of people that includes nearly everyone
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# [00:49] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: hi
# [00:49] <zzzzz> haha - Until I see a site that says: 'Best viewed in 64bit browser' - I have no need for it
# [00:49] <@smaug> philor: are you backing about the dlbi patches ?
# [00:50] <mattwoodrow> hey smaug, looking in to it
# [00:50] <philor> smaug: nope, I'm waiting patiently for people to decide whether that's the right thing to do
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# [00:50] <WG9s> zzzzz: Today's 64-bit Linux nightly worked fine for me without crashing. I only ran it about 10 mins though but seemed to work just fine.
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# [00:50] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: thanks!
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# [00:50] <cjones> we'll know in a few minutes which route is easier
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# [00:51] <zzzzz> WG9s: that good news - especially if the crashing is only win64 non-tier 1 stuff
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# [00:56] <Jesse> fwiw, i have a testcase that crashes with the same signature as the nightly bustage. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795646
# [00:57] <Jesse> but there are a lot of other dlbi regressions. it might be best to back out and work through the list of regressions off of mozilla-central.
# [00:58] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: ^
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# [01:00] <@dbaron> Jesse, that's what happened the last time
# [01:01] <zzzzz> Jesse: somehow I seem to recall that disabling layers.acceleration was crashing before dbli landed - could be remembering wrong
# [01:01] <@dbaron> Jesse, one problem is that just keeping the patches up-to-date against m-c takes a significant percentage (50%?) of a full-time developer
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# [01:01] <Jesse> dbaron: ouch
# [01:01] <@dbaron> Jesse, so it's very hard to find a way to actually land such a patch set
# [01:02] <@dbaron> Jesse, And I think we need to accept that landing things of that complexity is going to require some pain at landing time
# [01:03] <@smaug> dbaron: but we need to keep nightlies usable
# [01:03] <@smaug> otherwise no one will use nightlies
# [01:03] <philor> since it's a week before uplift, there must be some off switch for it, right?
# [01:03] <aja> after beta5 seems not best timing, perhaps?
# [01:04] <WG9s> Jesse's testcase even crashes 32-bit Linux
# [01:04] <zzzzz> does not crash for me if I don't disable the pref - why would one to disable it anyhow ?
# [01:05] <WG9s> going to test it on win 32-bit as soon as my system boots
# [01:06] <zzzzz> hmm is a restart of the browser for the pref change to take affect ?
# [01:07] <zzzzz> restarts brower - crosses finger
# [01:07] <@dbaron> smaug, yeah... we might need a window of "no other changes to layout, gfx, or widget"
# [01:07] <WG9s> although this got the less common mozilla::FrameLayerBuilder::ClearManagerData crash
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# [01:08] <zzzzz> welll F**K, crashed and wiped my sessionstore - dammit I wish someone would fix that bug
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# [01:13] <Jesse> do you know what the session restore bug is?
# [01:15] <zzzzz> Jesse: this one I think https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690374
# [01:15] <zzzzz> seems there was another one also, but I'm not seeing it right off
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# [01:16] <@gavin> are you sure it's that bug?
# [01:16] <@gavin> if it's not, and it happens to you frequently, you should file a new bug
# [01:16] <WG9s> and that testcase does not crash windows 32-bit
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# [01:17] <zzzzz> WG9s: did here - crashed that is, and took my session with it -
# [01:18] <WG9s> the more common win64 startup crashes seem to be at mozilla::layers::LayerPropertiesBase::LayerPropertiesBase
# [01:18] <zzzzz> gavin: pretty sure since I had toggled the pref, ran the test case nothing crashed - restarted the browser with the testcase in a tab and on restart - BAM boom - no more sessionstore
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# [01:19] <zzzzz> WG9s: did you restart the brower after toggle that pref ? I seems to take a browser restart to make it take effect
# [01:19] <aja> zzzzz: sessionstore data may still be there. i just got no opportunity to try to use it
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# [01:19] <zzzzz> let me see if the backup got wiped - hang on
# [01:20] <zzzzz> yep - wiped it clean -
# [01:20] <aja> zzzzz: when i went to earlier build, sessionstore use was prompted for
# [01:20] <aja> hmmm
# [01:20] <zzzzz> that should not happen on crash
# [01:21] <zzzzz> I got prompted = but it was empty :(
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# [01:21] <aja> ouch
# [01:22] <WG9s> but we also have Bug 795626 - crash in mozilla::FrameLayerBuilder::RemoveDisplayItemDataForFrame which is evidenly the #1 crasher on MAC also a regression from Bug 539356 - (dlbi)
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# [01:27] <WG9s> zzzzz: guess i missed that part. what pref are we talking about?
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# [01:28] <zzzzz> layers.acceleration.disabled
# [01:29] <zzzzz> default is 'false' - turn it to 'true' to turn off layer accel
# [01:29] <zzzzz> restart - then it crashes
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# [01:31] <WG9s> oh and we don;t do layers acceleration on win64
# [01:32] <WG9s> and not sure what the current state of linux is with my driver
# [01:32] <WG9s> probably don;t there either
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# [01:33] <zzzzz> Oh, didn't know win64 builds didn't do same as win32 - but makes sense - win64 is a different animal
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# [01:35] <WG9s> OK and i set layers.acceleration.force-enabled;true on linux and now Jessie's testcase does not crash
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# [01:37] <zzzzz> which effectively turned off layers.accel - right ?
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# [01:37] <zzzzz> oh, that's a different pref
# [01:38] <zzzzz> looks to see what default is on win32
# [01:38] <zzzzz> default is false
# [01:38] <WG9s> yes the issue is that layers acceleration is off by deafult with my graphics card so i have to force it on to use it
# [01:39] <WG9s> actually iu am not sure it is not jsut forced off under linux period
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# [01:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6df63191884b - Steve Workman - Bug 734546: Add full byte range request ability to ChannelMediaResource r=cpearce
# [01:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d882662a0bb6 - Steve Workman - Bug 734546: Add DASH Decoders and Readers r=cpearce r=ted
# [01:40] <zzzzz> I must admit - I'm a bit lost if the crashes are being caused by using non-default prefs, its only 64bit win or all across board
# [01:41] <zzzzz> I'm not crashing unless I tweak layers.acceleration.disabled to 'true' - thus disabling the layers.accel -
# [01:41] <WG9s> i don;t beleive we do layers acceleration by on win64 unless you force it by enableing the force-enabled pref
# [01:41] <zzzzz> ok -
# [01:42] * zzzzz I think - still not totally clear on the interactions of the layers prefs
# [01:42] <WG9s> there are 2 prefs layers.acceleration.disabled can be used to disable the feature
# [01:42] <zzzzz> not really dug into it much
# [01:42] <WG9s> if you are running a configuration for which we don;t support layers acceleration, you can override that and enable anyway using the force-enabled pref
# [01:42] <zzzzz> yes, and disbling it on win32 will cause jesse's testcase to crash
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# [01:48] <WG9s> yes
# [01:48] <WG9s> and forcing it enabled on linux prevents the crash
# [01:48] <WG9s> i wonder if doing the same on win64 would also work
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# [01:50] <philor> mmm, dlbi context menus are probably better if your hand shakes, since otherwise it's the menu appropriate for a different thing in a different tab until you move
# [01:51] <WG9s> this makes me wonder if our automated tests run with layers.acceleration.force-enabled set to true on win64
# [01:52] <zzzzz> I'll post in MZ for someone with win64 to try it...
# [01:54] <aja> which pref? i can try
# [01:55] <WG9s> aja: layers.acceleration.force-enabled set it to true
# [01:56] <WG9s> also make sure layers.acceleration.disabled is set to false
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# [01:59] <philor> and apparently tooltips don't update at all, ever, I wish I'd picked a better one to have be my tooltip for everything
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# [01:59] <aja> re-downloading win64 m-c nightly....prefs.js is set
# [02:00] <@smaug> so nice to hack refcounting and notice a bug after building
# [02:00] <zzzzz> philor: this ?
# [02:00] <zzzzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795576
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# [02:01] <@khuey> smaug: well all you have to do is change one file and then just rebuild ... oh ... right
# [02:01] <@khuey> :-P
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# [02:12] <aja> WG9s: it is userprefs.js for filename, right?
# [02:13] <aja> if so....crash
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# [02:14] <philor> zzzzz: yeah, which is a dupe of Alice's bug, which I apparently saw the last time it landed and forgot all about
# [02:14] <aja> lemme retract.....typo....trying again
# [02:14] <aja> nope....still a crash
# [02:15] <zzzzz> ?(
# [02:15] <zzzzz> :(
# [02:15] <aja> with force-enabled either way
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# [02:17] <WG9s> OK
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# [02:28] <aja> ok.....with proper filename of user.js still fails regardless of either setting/combo thereof
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# [02:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4b1bbc80a5af - Robert Strong - Bug 795647 - The string Firefox is in the SELECT_FOLDER l10n text. r=bbondy
# [02:35] <WG9s> aja:It could be that layers acceleration has always crashed on win 64-bit like i said as far as i know it was only done if you set the force-enabled preference
# [02:36] <aja> yesterdays win64 has been fine with default settings
# [02:37] <WG9s> yes but i think default settings on win64 don;t do layers acceleration so trying to toggle it to avoid a crash might just get you a different crash bvecause no one runs win64 with layers acceleration.
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# [03:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85f561c755f6 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795591 - Disable merged display item tracking. r=cjones
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# [03:07] <mattwoodrow> philor: Unfortunately I couldn't think of a way to put 'rip out the entirety of gecko's invalidation code and replace it' behind a switch
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# [03:08] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: shouldn't the code land then early FF19 cycle?
# [03:09] <mattwoodrow> smaug: It was required for B2G, so I had to land it asap
# [03:09] <@smaug> um
# [03:10] <cjones> it's not strictly required, but it's a huge perf win and fixes about 10 other bugs in the old invalidation code that would be wasted work
# [03:10] <@smaug> is it likely that regressions will be fixed next week ?
# [03:10] <philor> maybe we can just skip shipping desktop for 18, let b2g have it as a totally broken and unusable branch
# [03:10] <cjones> yes
# [03:11] <philor> the first regression I spotted, immediately after opening a build, was filed in early July
# [03:11] <cjones> the exit strategy is to branch 18-alpha for b2g and back out dlbi on alpha
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# [03:12] <@smaug> ah, ok
# [03:12] <cjones> the risk isn't coupled
# [03:12] <@smaug> sounds like that is what will happen then
# [03:12] <mattwoodrow> smaug: I'd strongly hope that all major regressions will be fixed next week
# [03:12] <mattwoodrow> I'll be putting 100% of my time into making that so, at least
# [03:13] <@smaug> it is just such a huge thingie that it will need more resources, I believe
# [03:13] <@smaug> lots of QAing
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# [03:14] <@smaug> but ok, if we'll back it out from FF18-Aurora, then no need to worry so much
# [03:14] <cjones> i can't find instructions on respinning nightlies, does anyone around know how to do that?
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# [03:14] <cjones> (of course, after the m-c landing is green)
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# [03:17] <philor> cjones: open self-serve (for the push is easiest, since then you can copy-paste the cset id from the URL), paste 85f561c755f6 into the "new nightlies, por favor" box at the bottom of the page
# [03:17] <cjones> ah, i was on self-serve but i missed that
# [03:17] <cjones> thanks
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# [03:23] <philor> and probably take the win64 bug out of the dependencies for bug 795643, if we're throwing them under the bus
# [03:23] <RyanVM> can I just once again call for a standing ovation for landing dlbi on a Friday evening?
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# [03:24] <zzzzz> clap-clap-clap \o/
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# [03:26] <mattwoodrow> sorry RyanVM, I only found out about the b2g close date 2 days beforehand
# [03:26] <mattwoodrow> it wasn't intentional
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# [03:27] <zzzzz> I think he worked 23 1/2 hours each of those two days to make that happen
# [03:28] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: so what's the plan at this point? are we backing out or are you on a coffee IV?
# [03:28] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: the latter
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# [03:29] <mattwoodrow> I just pushed a fix to the main crash
# [03:29] <mattwoodrow> I don't think we're too critical with that
# [03:29] <mattwoodrow> but yeah, going to be a long week
# [03:31] <RyanVM> good luck :)
# [03:31] <cjones> sometimes it's better to bring on a lot of pain for a short amount of time than string out a small amount over months
# [03:32] <RyanVM> and by "fix", you mean wallpaper?
# [03:32] <RyanVM> also, any way to come up with a crashtest for it?
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# [03:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7c637172709 - Kannan Vijayan - Backing out 4858ec60ad5f - bad bug number in commit message.
# [03:37] <philor> nooooooooo
# [03:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcac73861b03 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 786126 - patch 1 - Add Ion exit frame type for OOL calls to PropertyOp. (r=jandem)
# [03:39] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: I guess I'm wondering why we hit this crash so easily in the wild, but not at all in our test infra
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# [03:40] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: Clearly our test suite is fairly lacking...
# [03:40] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: hopefully you can make a crashtest then :)
# [03:40] <aja> different graphics h/w ?
# [03:41] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: of course, I've just converted Jesse's test case into one
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# [03:46] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow; that'll do :)
# [03:47] <mattwoodrow> Now to fix philor's tooltips, since apparently that broke again since I last fixed
# [03:47] <mattwoodrow> it
# [03:47] <RyanVM> I think there were 3 or 4 bugs filed on tooltips
# [03:47] <RyanVM> hopefully all related :)
# [03:47] <RyanVM> well, tooltips/popups anyway
# [03:48] <mattwoodrow> I did check that they were fixed too
# [03:48] <philor> it's like when you break a finger and have a cast on it, and suddenly find that you use that finger to do *everything*
# [03:48] <mattwoodrow> but things tend to break day to day with DLBI, so who knows
# [03:49] <RyanVM> my, what fun it must be refactoring one of the basic pieces of the layout engine :)
# [03:49] <RyanVM> i remember how long we were dealing with regressions after the reflow branch landed
# [03:49] <RyanVM> and that was when reftesting was in its infancy
# [03:50] <RyanVM> i think I still have a saved bugzilla query for bugs fixed by the reflow branch that didn't have a reftest
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# [03:50] <mattwoodrow> heh, before my time I think
# [03:51] <RyanVM> that was 2007 IIRC
# [03:51] <mattwoodrow> I don't think I knew what c++ was at that point
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# [03:52] <RyanVM> 2006 actually
# [03:52] <RyanVM> it amazes me to this day that dbaron did that back then
# [03:53] <RyanVM> on cvs no less
# [03:53] <RyanVM> one single patch
# [03:53] <mattwoodrow> ouch, who reviewed that
# [03:53] <RyanVM> roc and bz
# [03:53] <RyanVM> and "nobody"
# [03:53] <mattwoodrow> haha
# [03:53] <RyanVM> there's actually a comment about landing it without a full review
# [03:54] <RyanVM> bug 300030 if you want a distraction
# [03:55] <RyanVM> over a year of development
# [03:55] <aja> anyone know what the arrow in the download widget is called? nit: the one that shows when downloads are complete has the arrow's tip cut-off
# [03:56] <mattwoodrow> aja: Bug 795577?
# [03:56] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: wow, DLBI was only 8 months
# [03:57] <RyanVM> heh
# [03:57] <philor> aja: usually "dropmarker"
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# [03:58] <philor> oh, nevermind, that's probably not one, is it?
# [03:59] <aja> mattwoodrow: no....i got the green icon when downloads finished....it just had the tip of the arrowhead cut off on bottom
# [03:59] <mattwoodrow> interesting
# [03:59] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: and while I tease you about it landing on a Friday evening, at least it wasn't a holiday weekend :P
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# [04:00] <mattwoodrow> I'm actually around to fix things too
# [04:07] <mattwoodrow> philor: Was there anything special required to reproduce the tooltips issue? It seems to be working fine on mac
# [04:08] <philor> mattwoodrow: I haven't figured it out, other than sometimes they stick and sometimes magic unsticks them
# [04:08] <mattwoodrow> what OS?
# [04:09] <philor> str: 1. open dozens of bugs with dependencies and mutliple tabs of tbpls
# [04:09] <philor> Mac
# [04:12] <mattwoodrow> ok, I can sometimes reproduce it on tbpl
# [04:12] <mattwoodrow> chrome tooltips aren't affected though
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# [04:12] <philor> you can affect them too, and separately
# [04:12] <philor> so you can have the chrome stuck and content unstuck, or the other way
# [04:14] <mattwoodrow> interesting
# [04:16] <@dbaron> mattwoodrow, did you trigger new nightlies? Probably worth doing so.
# [04:17] <mattwoodrow> dbaron: I think cjones did
# [04:17] <mattwoodrow> thanks for commenting earlier too, gave me time to get that crash fixed
# [04:18] <cjones> dbaron, waiting on tests
# [04:18] <cjones> soon
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# [04:20] <philor> you don't actually have to wait on tests, since updates are disabled - nothing's actually going to happen with the nightlies you produce until releng manually turns them back on
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# [04:20] <philor> we don't wait on tests for _releases_, much less nightlies :)
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# [04:23] <@dolske> mattwoodrow: hah, just noticed the tooltip thing here too. OS X, stuck for content but chrome is ok.
# [04:23] <@dolske> mattwoodrow: fwiw, here's the content one... http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.xul#118
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# [04:24] <cjones> philikon, okie dokie
# [04:24] <cjones> triggered
# [04:24] <cjones> (i think)
# [04:26] <@dolske> oh, right, _this_ function... http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#2910
# [04:26] <@dolske> "TEMPORARY!"
# [04:26] <mattwoodrow> 'temporarily forever'
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# [04:54] <gps> NeilAway: I don't doubt it. but, -jN isn't being proxied directly by client.mk. it is being inherited elsewhere. if you blow away your objdir and delete your .mozconfig and .mozconfig.out file you will |make -f client.mk -j10| will not result in any parallel make
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# [04:54] <gps> FWIW, there are some in-tree mozconfig files defining -jN. it's possible your mozconfig is pulling those in
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# [04:55] <mattwoodrow> dolske: Any idea how I could disable the status bar?
# [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6fb0f8197f7 - Eric Chou - Bug 795458 - a workaround for this bug and fixed a typo, r=qdot
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# [05:02] <philor> still well within reasonable limits of TEMPORARY!, it's only been that way since February 2002
# [05:03] <@bz_away> philor: reading plugin code are we?
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# [05:04] <philor> bz_away: far worse, browser.js, or more accurately navigator.js
# [05:05] <@bz_away> philor: heh
# [05:08] <@dolske> mattwoodrow: the little little think that pops up for link previews?
# [05:09] <mattwoodrow> dolske: never mind, I think i've got this figured out
# [05:09] <@dolske> probably need to just comment out the code...
# [05:09] <@dolske> ah, cool.
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# [05:30] <aja> yeah!
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# [05:33] <mattwoodrow> aja: was the crash happening on non-pgo previously?
# [05:34] <aja> dunno....all i was trying were nightlies and pgo builds
# [05:34] <cjones> aja, i think we're hitting a bug in pgo
# [05:35] <aja> ah,,,,missed that somehow
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# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1fff87fd8e8 - Mike Habicher - Bug 779145 - Add support for unsoliciated onShutter and onClosed callbacks, handle OnNavigation to clean-up. r=jst
# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e95251661b78 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85f561c755f6 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795591 - Disable merged display item tracking. r=cjones
# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa53fc5ef634 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b1bbc80a5af - Robert Strong - Bug 795647 - The string Firefox is in the SELECT_FOLDER l10n text. r=bbondy
# [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd82278e2bb8 - Gary Kwong - Bug 696305 - Suppress another cross architecture bug. DONTBUILD
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# [05:59] <philor> too bad, rtl languages
# [06:05] <RyanVM> eh?
# [06:05] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/72e03ee74f40 without the followup will mess up some uninteresting bits of UI for them, not quite enough to make me want to have backed it out
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# [06:09] <Callek> philor: yea, I brought that up in IRC, as a "I'll leave it up to you if you backout now, or get a patch checked in to fix it within the next hour"
# [06:09] <Callek> ;-)
# [06:09] <Callek> apparantly checked in was not followed
# [06:10] <RyanVM> hmm, I guess I'm supposed to read a few hours of IRC scrollback before merging in the future...
# [06:10] <jaws> aja: the bug you were mentioning about earlier with the downloads button? were you talking about bug 758515? i just uploaded a patch for that bug
# [06:10] <RyanVM> but in the mean time, backout time on inbound!
# [06:11] <Callek> RyanVM: noo, not your fault, imo.
# [06:11] <philor> not necessarily, or necessary
# [06:11] <jaws> firebot: hi
# [06:11] <firebot> g'day mate
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# [06:11] <Callek> RyanVM: and I don't feel strongly enough to want to backout on trunk builds that
# [06:11] <philor> smontagu is perfectly capable of deciding whether or not he wants to slightly break rtl
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# [06:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1dde5624fc81 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout c1fff87fd8e8 (bug 779145) due to build bustage.
# [06:13] <aja> cjones: looks like you're right....latest pgo win64 hourly still crashes
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# [06:14] <aja> jaws: yep....the screenie in that bug looks like what i've been seeing
# [06:15] <jaws> aja: cool! well a fix for it is on the way. also, it's not caused by dlbi, it's caused by insufficient css :)
# [06:16] <philor> dunno why people think try is so overloaded, all it has running is 6 zombies, 1 runaway job that's dying, and 1 actual job
# [06:16] <aja> misaligned a few px ?
# [06:16] <@khuey> oh boy
# [06:16] <@khuey> lisp guy is back
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# [06:22] <@dolske> thigh.
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# [06:29] <RyanVM> khuey: DO IT NOW!
# [06:30] <qDot> lisp guy?
# [06:30] <jcranmer|away> qDot: wants to rewrite all of Firefox in LISP
# [06:31] <jcranmer|away> although apparently now LUA
# [06:31] <qDot> Oh come on all the cool kids are rewriting everything in haskell these days.
# [06:31] <jaws> well we are trying to position ourselves for the game authors
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# [06:32] <qDot> Though if we're going that direction, can we do it in elisp, so I never have to change programs ever?
# [06:32] <qDot> 'cause firefox in emacs would be sweet.
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# [06:34] <@khuey> qDot: heh
# [06:35] * aja confesses to having written web pages with Rexx
# [06:36] * @khuey sighs
# [06:36] <@khuey> we should have designed the web to not require dynamic allocation of memory
# [06:39] <@dolske> s/dynamic allocation of//
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# [06:40] <@dolske> otoh... I guess that means someone would need to fix printing. :o
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# [06:41] <qDot> No they wouldn't. Just replace it with a dialog that says "Get a piece of paper and write this down."
# [06:41] <qDot> CROWDSOURCING
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# [06:43] <@dolske> printr. nice. you win 9000 intarwebs.
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# [06:47] <philor> do you still write patches?
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# [06:47] <@khuey> no he's a manager now
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# [06:47] <philor> thus my shock
# [06:48] <Callek> philor: coop and catlee are managers and they still write patches
# [06:48] * Callek doesn't remember the last time he saw a joduinn patch though
# [06:49] <philor> that's what happens to people who don't have enough servants
# [06:49] <philor> gah, employees, the keys are right next to each other
# [06:49] <Callek> lolol
# [06:49] <aja> bet they still have screwdrivers, too
# [06:51] <Callek> aja: sonic screwdrivers at that!
# [06:53] <aja> sooo 1970's
# [06:53] <aja> get em some sonic multi-tools
# [06:54] <@dolske> heh, I totally just wrote the hidpi cursors patch! :)
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# [06:59] <philor> good times!
# [07:00] <philor> having to try to reland it, not such good times
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# [07:03] <Callek> philor: did we find a backout that makes more blame-sense re: why we witch hunted joe out of tree?
# [07:04] <philor> Callek: no, what makes more sense is that the all-white thing was prefs-related, and he was depending on having set a pref
# [07:05] <philor> so we had a crapload while he was in, because he needed his pref and didn't get it, and a bunch after he was out, because Android, and zero since wlach landed
# [07:06] <Callek> ooo right -- forgot that wlach landed the prefs-thing workaround-fix
# [07:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e10fd37030e3 - Frank Yan - Bug 781327 - Use 2x images for HiDPI browser UI. r=dolske
# [07:08] <@dolske> bam
# [07:08] <@dolske> \o/
# [07:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a96be857cca7 - Joe Drew - Bug 786449 - Add a place to explicitly initialize RasterImage on the main thread at startup. r=jlebar
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaf9e3020132 - Joe Drew - Bug 486918 - Create and obey a high-quality downscaling pref, and turn it off on OS X and mobile. r=jlebar
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9506ec6be80 - Joe Drew - Bug 786444 - Part 1 - Add an RAII class to make locking imgFrame more foolproof, use it, and be sure to lock imgFrame more correctly. r=jlebar
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bed067351ab6 - Joe Drew - Bug 786444 - Part 2 - Make imgFrame's lock status a count, not a boolean, so you can lock it multiple times and still be correct. r=jlebar
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27e0c22b96e5 - Tatiana Meshkova - Bug 486918. Part 2: Add the ability to pre-downscale using a high-quality scaler on a separate thread. r=joe,jlebar
# [07:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a59944cc3781 - Joe Drew - Bug 486918. Part 1: Import Chromium's higher-quality image scalers, since we know those to be good and shippable. r=jrmuizel
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# [07:28] <philor> is "a rathole with a tar-baby stuck in it" a bad thing to say in the first sentence of a bug you want someone else to fix for you?
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# [07:29] <Callek> philor: depends is "releng" the "someone else"
# [07:29] <philor> you know it!
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# [07:33] <squib> philor: it's "an exciting challenge"
# [07:33] <Callek> philor: in which case, if its me, its not bad, if its someoen else in releng it is bad.... whats the bug/issue
# [07:33] <philor> they don't have interns, this time of the year
# [07:34] <philor> win64 tests! it's an exciting challenge!
# [07:34] <Callek> win64 tests
# [07:34] <jesup> aja: Rexx.... ah.... :-) Fond memories of that (ARexx actually)
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# [07:34] <Callek> the sky is falling, the sky is falling
# [07:34] <philor> might as well file it assigned to armenzg P5, I know
# [07:35] <Callek> philor: you should assign it to dveditz you know he did a release once, right
# [07:36] <philor> heh, the w764 slaves are almost 70% idle, argument one for not testing PGO/nightlies goes down the tubes
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# [08:01] <philor> cjones: did you download one of those respun nightlies and see that it doesn't crash, so that you want to say in bug 795643 that you want releng to renable updates for everything except win64?
# [08:01] <philor> not that they probably will until it's Nick's Monday morning tomorrow, but you never know
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# [08:04] <cjones> philikon, no, i tested locally with the patch
# [08:04] <cjones> but i'll do that
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# [08:05] <philor> there's a "go to build directory" link on tbpl when you click on the N
# [08:05] <philor> which I hope actually works, don't think I've ever used it on a nightly
# [08:06] <philor> go us, it does
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# [08:06] <cjones> found it, thanks
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# [08:14] <philor> sweet
# [08:16] <aja> win64 nightly respin crashes for me
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# [08:20] <aja> and win64 non-pgo hourly from same changeset = no crash
# [08:22] <aja> win32's fine
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# [08:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b332f047a93b - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795611 - Call virtual InvalidateFrame from InvalidateFrameSubtree since nsTable*Frame overloads it. r=cjones
# [08:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8cc407a142e8 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795576 - Correctly add the NS_FRAME_UPDATE_LAYER_TREE when invalidating inside a popup. r=cjones
# [08:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/87346ce19cfc - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795631 - Update BasicLayerManager::mPhase variable in release mode as well as debug. r=cjones
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# [08:38] <philor> oh, well-played mochitest-4! just a normal debug run, except it caught a shutdown timeout, which gets a data: screenshot, which put it over buildbot's 50MB log limit
# [08:39] <philor> maybe, just maybe, one or two things in that suite could stfu?
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# [09:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a231dc22347 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 666041: Reftests for css3-flexbox. (tests-only)
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# [09:29] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [09:31] <mattwoodrow> what time do the nightlys trigger, approximately?
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# [09:32] <philor> roughly 3:01
# [09:33] <philor> which doesn't mean that you can land at 2:59 and make the nightly
# [09:33] <Ms2ger> If you backout dlbi now... ;)
# [09:34] <philor> the rev chooser takes the most recent push which has successfully built on all the platforms for which we do nightlies, so the cutoff is some random time around 1:30ish
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# [09:35] <philor> so awesome, debug Windows M4 is just barely squeaking under the 50MB limit, so you pretty much cannot add editor or layout mochitests, unless they have virtually no output
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# [09:38] <Ms2ger> <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: wow, DLBI was only 8 months
# [09:38] <Ms2ger> ... yet
# [09:38] <mattwoodrow> thanks :)
# [09:39] <Ms2ger> Sorry, couldn't resist :)
# [09:40] <mattwoodrow> It's ok, I knew what i was in for when I signed up
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# [10:54] <Yoric> Optimizer: hi
# [10:54] <Optimizer> Hi
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# [10:55] <Yoric> So, you have an ArrayBuffer that you want to write to a file, is that it?
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# [10:55] <Optimizer> yes :)
# [10:56] <Optimizer> the result of LZW, if I make it a string or store the integers into arraybuffer, results into same amount of size
# [10:56] <Yoric> In that case: |OS.File.writeAtomic(pathToYourFile, buffer, { tmpPath: pathToYourFile + ".tmp"} )|;
# [10:56] <Yoric> Note that |buffer| must be the buffer, not the TypedArray (I have a patch to change that, but it is not 100% complete yet).
# [10:57] <Yoric> Also, tmpPath us currently necessary, but I will try and remove it in a further version.
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# [10:57] <Optimizer> yeah,temppath could be directly chosen
# [10:58] <Optimizer> and on error should be displayed to user
# [10:58] <Optimizer> ok but I can do with that implementation as of now :)
# [10:58] <Optimizer> sounds awesome
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# [11:02] <Optimizer> Yoric: thanks ^^
# [11:02] <Yoric> np
# [11:03] <Yoric> So yes, for tmpPath, we went with the minimal-feature version first.
# [11:03] <Yoric> We will add auto-detection of tmpPath later.
# [11:03] <Yoric> Note that auto-detecting tmpPath is slightly slower than providing it, so the version in which you provide tmpPath will remain useful :)
# [11:04] <Optimizer> but just using the same directory wouldn't do ?
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# [11:05] <Optimizer> also, how is this different from NetUtils, FileUtils ? (better ? worse? )
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# [11:15] <Yoric> Optimizer: The problem is not choosing the directory, it is finding the name of a file in the directory that doesn't exist (if we auto-detect tmpPath) or that can be overwritten without consequence (if you provide it).
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# [11:16] <Yoric> Operating systems provide the feature of finding the name of a file that does not exist, but I have not put it to good use yet.
# [11:16] <Optimizer> use the same filename with extra ".firefox.tmp" ?
# [11:16] <Yoric> Well, yes, but what if that filename already exists? How do we know if we have the right to remove it, for instance?
# [11:17] <Optimizer> hmm
# [11:17] <Optimizer> true
# [11:17] <Yoric> For my tests, I have files that end up with ".tmp.tmp", because that's how it ends up.
# [11:18] <Callek> Yoric: you ALWAYS have the right to remove C:\WINDOWS and / so just issue a |rm -rf C:\WINDOWS /| and you'll have happy users on win and linux and mac
# [11:18] <Yoric> :)
# [11:18] <Optimizer> Callek: you sir should die
# [11:21] <Callek> Optimizer: no, I should die if I told users to rename C:\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll to popcorn64.dll and then restart their computer to correct slow Firefox
# [11:21] <Callek> on my blog
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# [11:21] <Optimizer> man, Firefox wouldnt even run
# [11:21] <Optimizer> windows wouldnt even run
# [11:21] <Callek> Optimizer: the *system* wouldn't boot right
# [11:21] <Optimizer> yeah
# [11:22] <Optimizer> even in the first option too
# [11:22] <Optimizer> so..
# [11:22] * Callek isn't even sure if they could rename it while windows was running, but I'm not about to try
# [11:22] <Optimizer> with the right permissions, you can from command line
# [11:22] <Optimizer> but getting those permissions is not easy
# [11:22] <Callek> well sure, but my popcorn solution has just enough semblance of being not-breaking to truck more people
# [11:23] <Optimizer> yeah, you should blog about it :P
# [11:23] * Optimizer and then die
# [11:24] <Callek> but I'd get even more if I just told people to install this WoW crack, that allowed them to login for free, or a "password generator for porn sites" and then got sys access and could do anything it wanted
# [11:24] <Callek> consumers are soooo gullable
# [11:24] * Callek says as a consumer
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# [12:25] <Ms2ger> 4484.49 0 compiler warnings present.
# [12:25] <Ms2ger> If only...
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# [12:48] <till> Ms2ger: That's some kind of star date, right?
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# [12:48] <till> Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away ...
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# [13:21] <NeilAway> gps: hmm, well I'm 100% sure that it manages to inherit -s but I have to admit that I'm not sure about -j
# [13:22] <NeilAway> gps: I think I probably edited the wrong .mozconfig when I was testing :s
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# [13:27] <NeilAway> gps: also, some of my tests were with pymake, which seems to work differently in this case
# [13:31] <Ms2ger> Ah, Fins: http://i.imgur.com/vSIJn.jpg
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# [13:35] * Ms2ger has 595 emails about bug 539356 \o/
# [13:38] <zzzzz_> jeez, and I thought the 70 I got was huge :P - I don't subscribe to that many thought - but they sure did go on a cleaning out campaign last night
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# [13:48] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: me too, my gmail has given up on separating the thread on 100 mails on the same thread
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# [13:52] <mounir> Ms2ger: man, you are not joking with those reviews :(
# [13:53] <Ms2ger> They aren't that bad, are they? ;)
# [13:53] <mounir> first patch is 8KB, that's fine
# [13:53] <mounir> after that, it's 34KB...
# [13:53] <mounir> I will have to delay the next reviews
# [13:53] <@smaug> Ms2ger: hey, we're making that more complex. The upper part will get longer (so that it will go from Helsinki to Espoo), and there will be a new line
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# [13:53] <mounir> smaug: ... I was going to ping you :)
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# [13:54] <Ms2ger> smaug, wow ;)
# [13:54] <Ms2ger> Anyway, I'm off for most of the rest of the day, see y'all :)
# [13:54] <@smaug> :)
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# [13:55] <mounir> smaug: about bug 795136
# [13:55] <mounir> would you mind if the "not showing the event handler in the interface" part is done in a follow-up?
# [13:55] <mounir> I have to land this today
# [13:55] <mounir> i would be glad to fix that in a follow-up next week
# [13:55] <@smaug> sounds ok
# [13:56] <mounir> great
# [13:56] <@smaug> the followup must be done before next merge
# [13:56] <mounir> smaug: didn't you open some kind of meta-bug about b2g-specific stuff showing up in desktop build?
# [13:58] <@smaug> I probably did
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# [13:59] <@smaug> mounir: Bug 784709
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# [14:06] <mounir> smaug: btw, I can't pass 'true' to AddObserver
# [14:06] <mounir> I get ###!!! ASSERTION: Oops! You're asking for a weak reference to an object that doesn't support that.:
# [14:08] <@smaug> mounir: hmm, you're passing nsGlobalWindow?
# [14:09] <mounir> no, mObserver
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# [14:10] <@smaug> mounir: what is your bug#. I don't have it open now
# [14:10] <mounir> bug 795136
# [14:10] <mounir> smaug: ^
# [14:10] <@smaug> yup
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# [14:13] <@smaug> mounir: oh, more fun. your patch doesn't cause leak but a security bug
# [14:13] <@smaug> because of mObserver
# [14:13] <@smaug> hmm
# [14:13] <@smaug> or does it..
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# [14:14] <mounir> smaug: I don't see what I'm doing differently that others (with my use of mObservers)
# [14:14] <@smaug> no, leak only
# [14:15] <mounir> why?
# [14:15] <mounir> I should always call removeobserver on clear()?
# [14:15] <@smaug> you don't always call RemoveObserver
# [14:15] <@smaug> mounir: yes
# [14:16] <mounir> I tried that, and I had assertions
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# [14:16] <mounir> though, I haven't check deeper
# [14:16] <@smaug> what assertions
# [14:16] <@smaug> there is stuff like os->RemoveObserver(mObserver, NS_IOSERVICE_OFFLINE_STATUS_TOPIC);
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# [14:22] <mounir> smaug: when CleanUp() is called
# [14:22] <mounir> and RemoveObserver() is called
# [14:22] <mounir> I get a similar assert
# [14:22] <mounir> ###!!! ASSERTION: Oops! You're asking for a weak reference to an object that doesn't support that.:
# [14:22] <mounir> this is weird
# [14:23] <@smaug> how
# [14:23] <@smaug> Cleanup is called in few places
# [14:23] <@smaug> basically when we're starting to destroy the window
# [14:24] <@smaug> and dtor too. (there is a flag to check that it is called only once)
# [14:24] <@smaug> mounir: so you need to pass false to the AddObserver after all
# [14:24] <@smaug> sorry I was wrong with that
# [14:24] * @smaug blames reviewing time, which was like 3am
# [14:25] <mounir> smaug: I'm passing false
# [14:25] <mounir> this assert is with |false|
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# [14:25] <mounir> but on CleanUp() it is assertin
# [14:25] <mounir> g
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# [14:25] <@smaug> odd
# [14:25] <mounir> yes
# [14:25] <mounir> could that be because of multiple removal?
# [14:26] <mounir> i have no idea what's the expected behaviour in that case
# [14:26] <@smaug> but why weakref
# [14:26] <@smaug> hmm, is observer service silly
# [14:26] <mounir> what is really weird is that mObserver is used at other places
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# [14:32] <@smaug> mounir: add a flag whether remove observer has been called for your stuff
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# [14:35] <mounir> sure
# [14:35] <mounir> I guess I should try that
# [14:35] <mounir> that would be sad though
# [14:36] <mounir> i mean, sad that we need that
# [14:36] <@smaug> mounir: yeah, observerservice or the weakref stuff shouldn't cause assertion
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# [14:43] <mounir> smaug: sadly, this is fixing the assert
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# [14:46] <mounir> smaug: observerlist is indeed stupid and tries to use weakref if the observer isn't found
# [14:46] <@smaug> that is what I expected
# [14:46] <@smaug> and then the weakref code asserts
# [14:46] <@smaug> which is wrong
# [14:46] <mounir> yes
# [14:47] <mounir> I guess we could check if the nsIObserver supports weakref before
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# [14:48] <@smaug> well, the bug is that trying to get weakref from nsISupports object shouldn't assert
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# [15:04] <mounir> smaug: I will land the patch with booleans to make sure we do not call remove or add twice
# [15:04] <mounir> do you want to re-review it?
# [15:04] <mounir> (I've open a bug to fix the underlying but and remove the booleans)
# [15:05] <@smaug> I can re-review
# [15:05] <@smaug> but will be offline very soon
# [15:05] <mounir> attaching now
# [15:06] <mounir> smaug: review request sent
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# [15:24] <mounir> smaug: thanks :)
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# [15:34] <mounir> that's me or m-c decided to no longer show builds
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# [16:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71b82c3cd96c - Simon Montagu - Change :dir selectors to :-moz-dir in css files. Bug 562169, r=dbaron
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# [16:29] <@bz> so how safe is today's nightly?
# [16:30] * @bz is not sure about this dlbi fallout stuff
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# [16:32] <sawrubh> Callek: I guess congratulations are in order
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# [16:39] <jesup> bz: at some point I need to merge m-c to alder, and want to make sure I pick a stable point...
# [16:39] <jesup> Seen a LOT of activity on the DLBI bug
# [16:41] <zzzzz_> I think they fixed the big crasher from yesterday, and menu's issue / not sure about 64bit win builds if they are fixed or not, not seen anyone complaining yet today, or they are all gun-shy and waiting for someone else to guinea pig it
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# [16:45] <jesup> zzzzz_: aja said 64-bit didn't work, but then Matt pushed about a dozen patches. No comments since then here
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# [16:46] <zzzzz_> yeah, I'm not clear if win64 still has an issue or not
# [16:46] <zzzzz_> I don't use it
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# [16:47] <zzzzz_> there is this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795594 64bit crash PGO builds
# [16:47] * @bz really wants to update because of the hidpi stuff
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# [16:48] <@bz> but sort of scared of all sorts of stuff not working
# [16:48] <@bz> maybe I'll wait a few more days. :(
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# [17:07] <mounir> bz: would you have time to rs a 2 lines patch?
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# [17:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37a2a580d614 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 795136 - 1/2 - Add events notifying the window if upload/download happen on the system. r=smaug sr=sicking
# [17:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b627472f76c - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 795136 - 3/2 - Disabling tests until bug 795711 is fixed. r=me
# [17:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/789babb33800 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 795136 - 2/2 - Add 'network-events' permission to access network-{upload,download} events. r=sicking
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# [17:27] <@bz> mounir: sure
# [17:27] <@bz> mounir: which one?
# [17:27] <mounir> bz: too late, I had to push it
# [17:27] <@bz> mounir: the test thing you asked and unasked for review on?
# [17:27] <mounir> bz: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b627472f76c
# [17:27] <@bz> mounir: heh
# [17:27] <mounir> bz: it's pretty trivial
# [17:27] <@bz> yeah
# [17:27] <@bz> looks ok
# [17:28] <mounir> I hate that I had to do that though :(
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# [17:43] <@bz> mounir: ping
# [17:44] <mounir> bz: yes?
# [17:44] <@bz> mounir: so for bug 795715
# [17:44] <@bz> mounir: can we just throw it on an interface that then gets conditioned in classinfo?
# [17:44] <mounir> that's the idea, yes
# [17:44] <@bz> mounir: ok, cool
# [17:45] * @bz wasn't sure whether we wanted it exposed to web content in b2g
# [17:45] <mounir> we will be able to have that kind of awesomeness with the new bindings?
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# [17:47] <mounir> michal: ping
# [17:47] <michal> mounir: pong
# [17:48] <@bz> mounir: with new bindings you can have chromeOnly things
# [17:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc074c415513 - Brad Lassey - bug 792825 - Crash in js::gc::MarkObjectRange on CyanogenMod 10, back out changeset 9a02263d7206 r=mossop
# [17:48] <@bz> mounir: as well as per-member preferences if desired
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# [17:48] <mounir> michal: michal about bug 795711, is there a reason why we are not observing the pref? Is that because we believe dynamic update is useless
# [17:48] <@bz> mounir: for b2g if needed we could add something like ChromeOnly but with a slightly different test
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# [17:49] <mounir> bz: might be nice to have something like "only if that method returns true"
# [17:49] <mounir> so we could have our own crazy checks
# [17:49] <@bz> mounir: mmm
# [17:49] <Optimizer> is there a single pref that would just tell me whether sync is on or not
# [17:49] <@bz> mounir: That's a bit harder
# [17:49] <Optimizer> ?
# [17:49] <@bz> mounir: but could be set up, I guess
# [17:50] <@bz> mounir: we have that for _interface_ objects in new bindings
# [17:50] <@bz> mounir: I'd have to think long and hard about how to do it on a per-property basis. :(
# [17:50] <@bz> mounir: that said...
# [17:50] <@bz> mounir: what would this method need to consider?
# [17:50] <@bz> mounir: things like the URI of the global or something?
# [17:52] <michal> mounir: see last paragraph of comments 66 and 67 in bug 777445. I'm going to implement it, but with the limitation described there...
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# [17:54] <mounir> bz: it's very various
# [17:55] <@bz> mounir: well, what would you want the arguments to your method to be?
# [17:55] <mounir> bz: for example, navigator.mozSms returns non-null if you have the pref set, the permissions and there is a backend for your platform
# [17:55] <@bz> ok
# [17:55] <@bz> so here's what's easy for me to handle
# [17:55] <@bz> if you can hand me a bool*
# [17:55] <@bz> more or less statically
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# [17:56] <@bz> or better yet if I can hand you a bool* and you'll update it as needed
# [17:56] <@bz> So that would cover "pref set" and "backend"
# [17:56] <@bz> but "permissions" is not a static thing, right?
# [17:57] <@bz> it depends on the app or the page or something?
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# [17:57] <@bz> so you'd need to have access to the global for the page to make that decision, I assume?
# [17:59] <mounir> bz: access to the principal, yes
# [18:00] <mounir> bz: btw, prefs loading is sync or async?
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# [18:02] <@bz> mounir: what do you mean?
# [18:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22c9c298a21f - Eddy Bruel - Bug 787856 - Use static JSObject::getProto in proxy code; r=wmccloskey
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# [18:02] <@bz> mounir: so yeah, to do the access to principal thing we'll need a bit more work
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# [18:02] <@bz> mounir: I want to avoid slowing down prototype setup too much... :(
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# [18:03] <mounir> bz: I think all those enabling/disabling properties depending on lot of stuff should be discussed broadly
# [18:03] <mounir> to make sure we know the requirements
# [18:03] <mounir> for example, I'm fine with keeping mozSms returning null
# [18:03] <mounir> when not available
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# [18:03] <@bz> does sorta mess with feature detection
# [18:03] <@bz> but ok
# [18:03] <mounir> for the prefs, there is this weird bug where the read pref is the one from pref() not from user_pref()
# [18:04] <mounir> i was wondering if the later was read async
# [18:04] <mounir> thus not yet ready
# [18:04] <@bz> user_pref is only available after profile setup
# [18:04] <@bz> so if you read prefs in a static initializer or something...
# [18:04] <@bz> then you won't get it, of course
# [18:04] <mounir> bz: feature detection would have to be if (navigator.mozSms) instead of if ('mozSms' in navigator)
# [18:05] <mounir> bz: listening to profile-initial-state would do?
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# [18:06] <@bz> mounir: I _think_ so
# [18:07] <@bz> mounir: assuming you want a non-live pref
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# [18:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12465a1211e0 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 789897 - Implement the preventExtensions trap for proxies; r=jorendorff
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# [18:16] <Optimizer> is there a way to get a specific element based on its class when you have access to its parent element ?
# [18:16] <Optimizer> without iterating over the parent's children
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# [18:20] <@bz> Optimizer: getElementsByClassName ?
# [18:20] <Optimizer> no,
# [18:20] <@bz> Optimizer: which will still iterate in the C++ code, of course
# [18:20] <Optimizer> that class name is present many other places also
# [18:20] <@bz> Optimizer: ok...
# [18:21] <Optimizer> so I will still get an array, which I would have to iterate to match the parent
# [18:21] <@bz> Optimizer: so what are you actually trying to do?
# [18:21] <Optimizer> in the options window
# [18:21] <Optimizer> there are tabs
# [18:21] <Optimizer> each tab is a prefpane
# [18:21] <@bz> Optimizer: are you looking for things with that class that are direct children of a given parent?
# [18:21] <Optimizer> and each prefpane has several preferences
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# [18:21] <@bz> Optimizer: or descendants of a given parent?
# [18:21] <Optimizer> so I want to dynamically add a preference into one of the prefpane
# [18:21] <@bz> Optimizer: as in, would parent.getElementsByClassName() do what you want?
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# [18:22] <Optimizer> yes, but that is not a valid function, is it ?
# [18:22] <@bz> sure it is
# [18:22] <Optimizer> web console says undefined
# [18:22] <Optimizer> or is it only for chrome code
# [18:22] <Optimizer> ?
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# [18:22] <@bz> getElementsByClassName is defined on all Element nodes
# [18:22] <@bz> and on Document
# [18:22] <Optimizer> oh then its okay :)
# [18:23] <Optimizer> so getElementById is also ?
# [18:23] <@bz> no
# [18:23] <Optimizer> and similarly, TagName
# [18:23] <@bz> getElementById is only on document
# [18:23] <@bz> getElementsByTagName is on elements
# [18:23] <Optimizer> ok :)
# [18:23] <Optimizer> thanks bz :)
# [18:23] <@bz> that's because there is only one element in the document with a given id
# [18:23] <@bz> in theory
# [18:23] <Optimizer> yes
# [18:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08cb400c9a49 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 12465a1211e0 (bug 789897) for landing without addressing all review comments.
# [18:23] <@bz> so scoping down the lookup doesn't make sense
# [18:23] <@bz> no problem
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# [18:26] <mounir> bz: you are not a netwerk peer by any chance? :)
# [18:26] <@bz> I'm trying not to be
# [18:26] <@bz> But technically, yes I am
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# [18:27] <mounir> bz: I'm pretty sure you can review bug 795711
# [18:27] <mounir> :)
# [18:27] <@bz> so wait
# [18:27] <@bz> why is this not a live pref?
# [18:28] <mounir> TBH, I don't think it's very important to be a live pref
# [18:28] <mounir> and michal explained in another bug that it would require some work
# [18:28] <@bz> ah
# [18:28] <mounir> I'm fine with the pref being static
# [18:28] <@bz> so stopping the blip would be hard
# [18:28] <@bz> fine
# [18:28] <mounir> given that I do not expect users to change it
# [18:28] <mounir> but user_pref() is needed at least for tests
# [18:29] <mounir> michal: maybe you want to have a look at the patch before I land it?
# [18:29] <@bz> ok
# [18:29] <@bz> r=me
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# [18:29] <mounir> I also need your rs on bug 795716's patch :)
# [18:30] <@bz> done
# [18:30] <mounir> \o/
# [18:30] <mounir> bz++
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# [18:35] <michal> mounir: the patch looks good
# [18:35] <mounir> great
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# [18:36] <Optimizer> is there any way to forece resizing of a prefpane without switching to other and returning ?
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# [18:50] <mounir> smaug: do you want onmoztimechange to stay in nsIDOMWindow?
# [18:50] <mounir> I think it could
# [18:51] <mounir> there is no desktop backends for that yet but it's clearly something we might do
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# [18:52] <@smaug> mounir: it shouldn't be visible to web pages on desktop
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# [18:53] <mounir> smaug: I will not fight over that
# [18:53] <mounir> but just OOC, why?
# [18:54] <@smaug> because "moztimechange" in window can be used as feature detection
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# [18:54] <mounir> oh
# [18:54] <mounir> that's going to be a bit hard when it will be implemented in some backends
# [18:54] <mounir> but let's do that for the moment...
# [18:54] <mounir> the #ifdef is going to be funny though :)
# [18:55] <mounir> i don't think we have #ifdef B2G
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# [18:55] <@smaug> er, "onmoztimechange" in window
# [18:55] <@smaug> I would expect b2g only stuff to go to a separate interface which nsGlobalWindow implements
# [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9c4d0c92df1 - Kyle Huey - Bug 792625: Fix xpcshell to accept non-ASCII command line arguments on Windows. r=bsmedberg
# [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96f3db193c75 - Kyle Huey - Bug 795128: Add memory reporting for attribute maps and nodes. r=smaug
# [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72e482dbd384 - Kyle Huey - Bug 760331: Coalesce data for inline style across nodes. r=bz
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# [19:22] <RyanVM> khuey++
# [19:22] <@khuey> RyanVM: hmm?
# [19:23] <RyanVM> nice memory win!
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# [19:23] <@khuey> ah, yes
# [19:23] <@khuey> admittedly a pathological test case
# [19:23] <@khuey> but yeah, 4 orders of magnitude is nice
# [19:24] <RyanVM> will be interesting to see what effect it has on AWSY
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# [19:55] <@smaug> uh, what happened to my review queue
# [19:55] <@smaug> it certainly doesn't look empty anymore
# [19:55] <mounir> smaug: sorry :(
# [19:56] <jesup|laptop> khuey: which bug?
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# [20:00] <jesup|laptop> Ah, 760331 - great!
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# [20:05] <@smaug> mounir: nah, it just means I've been lazy for few days
# [20:05] <@smaug> (or trying to get addref/release faster)
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# [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18e98f1040c2 - Gordon P. Hemsley - Bug 792575 - Change Hawaiian [haw] langGroup to 'x-western'. r=jfkthame
# [20:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42e5480fb109 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 795584 - Add a template parameter to clamped. r=Ms2ger
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# [20:52] <Optimizer> ESR is currently on which version ?
# [20:53] <Optimizer> as in equivalent to Firefox 10 ?
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# [20:53] <WG9s> Optimizer: yes i think it will be updated to 17 soonish
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# [20:54] <Optimizer> not before 17 launches
# [20:54] <Optimizer> so not so soonish :P
# [20:54] <Optimizer> 7 jan maybe ?
# [20:55] <Optimizer> oh, no, there is one date before also
# [20:55] <Optimizer> after 8th oct
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# [20:58] <WG9s> that is why the "ish" part ;-)
# [20:59] <philor> no, esr doesn't immediately switch when 17 ships, esr17 gets created but esr10 still ships a release when 18 ships, and then esr10 updates to esr17 when 19 ships
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# [21:00] <philor> I know, the horror of it makes me want to quit too
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# [21:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a4ea3c56646b - bobbyholley+bmo@gmail.com - Bug 793370 - crash in nsWebShellWindow::Initialize, r=smaug+bz
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# [21:31] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: ping, I think you broke parseFailures.py http://paste.debian.net/194709/
# [21:32] <Ms2ger> That's what I get for not testing :)
# [21:32] <tbsaunde> heh
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# [21:34] <aleth> Is there currently a CSS way to use e.g. attr() to set an image to a URL specified by an attribute?
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# [21:35] <Ms2ger> aleth, not yet
# [21:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/490b19dde476 - Ms2ger - No bug - Fix stupid bug because I don't know Python; hat-tip=tbsaunde (NPOTB, DONTBUILD)
# [21:36] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, there you go :)
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# [21:38] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: lol, thanks
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# [21:39] <Ms2ger> This had better work ;)
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# [21:41] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: what do you mean by bug 795696 comment 2?
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# [21:42] <Ms2ger> See bug 778251
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# [21:43] <jcranmer> and?
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# [22:18] <Optimizer> any tree expert?
# [22:18] <Optimizer> XUL nsiTreeView
# [22:19] <Optimizer> if one sets editable=true in one column, how does he come to know whether any cell in that column is being edited right now or not
# [22:19] * WG9s would have thought a tree expert had to do with the state of the source tree, just sayin'! ;-)
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# [22:23] <WG9s> Actually, around here, I would think a tree expert would be to try to figure out how to keep the beetle attacking that tree from spreading elsewhere.
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# [22:26] <NeilAway> Optimizer needed tree.editingRow/Column
# [22:26] * zzzzz trees are hard
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# [22:29] <mcsmurf> Optimizer: <NeilAway> Optimizer needed tree.editingRow/Column
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# [22:31] <Optimizer> mcsmurf: thanks :)
# [22:31] <Optimizer> found that in the documentation also , now have another thing to sort out
# [22:31] <Optimizer> how to persist the columns hidden states accross window close open
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# [22:31] <Optimizer> NeilAway: thanks :)
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# [22:33] <Optimizer> ah, persist :)
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# [22:35] <Optimizer> man! mdn is so comprehensive :)
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# [23:17] <mcsmurf> hm...is this advice on this build error really correct?
# [23:17] <mcsmurf> "configure: error: "ml" is not a suitable assembler to build js-ctypes. If you are building with MS Visual Studio 8 Express, you may download the MASM 8.0 package, upgrade to Visual Studio 9 Express, or install the Vista SDK. Or do not use --enable-ctypes."
# [23:17] <mcsmurf> the ml version I use is already from Visual Studio 9
# [23:18] <mcsmurf> "$ ml Microsoft (R) Macro Assembler Version 9.00.30729.01"
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# [23:21] <mcsmurf> that code is quite old though, I wonder why it worked fine so far
# [23:23] <mcsmurf> probably because I created a new objdir and started a completly new build..
# [23:24] <mcsmurf> but this isn't the first clobber I've done
# [23:24] <mcsmurf> *sigh*
# [23:24] <mcsmurf> fun fun fun
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