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# [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4ea3c56646b - bobbyholley+bmo@gmail.com - Bug 793370 - crash in nsWebShellWindow::Initialize, r=smaug+bz
# [00:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/490b19dde476 - Ms2ger - No bug - Fix stupid bug because I don't know Python; hat-tip=tbsaunde (NPOTB, DONTBUILD)
# [00:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31ae286fff78 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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# [02:04] <tbsaunde> anyone have an idea what happened in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15670152&tree=Try
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# [02:07] <mattwoodrow> tbsaunde: e:\builds\moz2_slave\try-w32-dbg\build\obj-firefox\dist\include\nsIObjectFrame.h(38) : error C2061: syntax error : identifier 'HWND' ?
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# [02:13] <tbsaunde> mattwoodrow: ok, thans
# [02:13] <tbsaunde> how did I miss that :(
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# [02:21] <sicking> gwagner: ping?
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# [02:28] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: I seem to have a pretty reproducible crash on win7 by restoring the window from being minimized
# [02:28] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: filed?
# [02:28] <RyanVM> no stack, unfortunately
# [02:29] <RyanVM> since I roll my own and I'm running this on a different computer than I build on
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# [02:31] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: any chance you could try reproducing?
# [02:31] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: is there a bug with str?
# [02:31] <RyanVM> my str is "minimize firefox and then restore it"
# [02:32] <cjones> Ryan, i can't reproduce
# [02:32] <RyanVM> i've hit it twice
# [02:32] <RyanVM> cjones: rats
# [02:32] <cjones> d2d/d3d10? (about:support)
# [02:32] <RyanVM> i'm on intel graphics, but d2d is enabled
# [02:32] <cjones> do we blacklist intel?
# [02:32] <RyanVM> i haven't tried to reproduce on my other computer w/ nvidia graphics
# [02:32] <RyanVM> no
# [02:33] <cjones> i can't repro with d3d10 forced off
# [02:33] <cjones> i use the classic theme though
# [02:34] <cjones> Ryan, do any of your tabs have flash applets running?
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# [02:36] <RyanVM> i have a gmail tab
# [02:36] <RyanVM> which I believe has flash in the background, no?
# [02:37] <Callek> RyanVM: yes GMail uses flash secretly
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# [02:42] <RyanVM> philor: can we disable the tilt tests already?
# [02:43] <philor> RyanVM: just a sec, my browser's hung starring one of those huge-fail ones on try
# [02:44] <RyanVM> philor: starring on Try? brave man....
# [02:45] * njn shakes his head in disgust at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/jsscript.h#1207
# [02:45] <philor> my push, and I needed 10 mochitest-chrome runs on Linux, which unfortunately means having to run browser-chrome 10 times too
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# [02:45] <philor> so, yeah, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d9a0e47e6f15 - not a very happy platform
# [02:46] <aja> so...is win64 still thrown under the bus? <g>
# [02:46] <philor> yep
# [02:46] <aja> k...tks
# [02:47] <nthomas> I'm looking at disabling pgo on nightlies, not sure why it's a blocker though
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# [02:47] <philor> what percentage of our nightly Windows testers are on win64?
# [02:48] <nthomas> about half, silly ppl
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# [02:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5245844b645d - Mike Habicher - Bug 779145 - Add support for unsoliciated onShutter and onClosed callbacks, handle OnNavigation to clean-up. r=jst
# [02:48] <aja> 100% of me (till yesterday, anyway)
# [02:48] <sicking> RyanVM: you sure we don't blacklist intel? I have a recollection we did
# [02:48] <sicking> RyanVM: at least for webgl
# [02:49] <RyanVM> sicking: AzureCanvasBackend direct2d AzureContentBackend direct2d
# [02:49] <sicking> ok
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# [02:50] <nthomas> philor: if I disable periodic pgo as well as pgo on nightly, that's ok yeah ?
# [02:50] <RyanVM> express series 4 chipset (c2d processor)
# [02:50] <zzzzz> 1/2 are using 64bit - rreally ?
# [02:51] <nthomas> srsly
# [02:51] <nthomas> 35k of out of 75k, 18.0a1 windows
# [02:51] <philor> nthomas: yep, the hypothetical fixers can hypothetically force PGO on try with the mozconfig, just rip it out of pgo_platforms
# [02:51] <zzzzz> amazing
# [02:51] <nthomas> k, verifying that it works as expected
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# [02:52] <philor> the one I wonder whether it works as expected is whether just adding it to pgo_platforms in mozilla-tests/ gets it tested
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# [02:52] <philor> though now I wonder for some hypothetical future
# [02:53] * nthomas hopes the graph server just works sans-pgo
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# [02:55] <bsmith> is there a keyword or status whiteboard flag for "parity with desktop firefox" for Fennec and/or B2G?
# [02:55] <Callek> blocking+
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# [02:56] <Callek> non-joking, I don't know but I imagine if there is a Web-Parity issue between the products it should be blocking+
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# [02:57] <bsmith> I don't think parity with desktop Firefox is a requirement for B2G 1.0.
# [02:57] <bsmith> A good indication of that is that it will be based on ESR, so it will lose parity almost immediately
# [02:58] <zzzzz> nthomas: I think its blocking becasue updates are also turned off - I think on all m-c builds, not just 64bit win
# [02:58] <nthomas> no, just win64 is update disabled right now
# [02:58] <zzzzz> ok
# [02:58] <zzzzz> there was a lot of stuff flying last night, hard to keep up :)
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# [03:07] <gps> NeilAway: I don't doubt pymake behaves differently. the rules for what flags sub-makes inherit is complicated and I wouldn't be surprised if pymake did not behave the same as GNU make
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# [03:12] <bsmith> FWIW, I searched bugzilla and found [parity-desktop] and [parity-desktop-Firefox] so I've decided to normalize them to [parity-desktop] and use that
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# [04:49] <nthomas> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2012/09/2012-09-30-18-33-50-mozilla-central/
# [04:51] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: zip build started
# [04:51] <aja> nthomas: sure.....checking
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# [04:52] <aja> downloading now
# [04:52] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: and no crashing so far in random browsing
# [04:52] <KWierso|Home> on win8
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# [04:52] <nthomas> a promising sign
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# [04:55] <markh> gps: is there a channel where mach should be discussed?
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# [04:58] <aja> nthomas: ok on win7 too
# [04:58] <aja> non-pgo clobber?
# [04:58] <nthomas> yep. nightlies always clobber
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# [05:16] <gps> markh: not a dedicated channel, no. this one works for me!
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# [05:17] <gps> speaking of mach, I need to have another beer and write a blog post ranting about Python...
# [05:17] <markh> gps: ok, cool :) What I thought might be a mach issue looks like it is due to upgrading mozilla-build, so I've nothing interesting to say atm :)
# [05:18] <markh> gps: you will be in good company ;)
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# [05:21] <nthomas> jesup: sounds good, if you've got a build in the broken state already
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# [05:22] <markh> yeah, seems strange. I might dig into it if I find time...
# [05:23] <gps> I agree that mach today doesn't offer that compelling of an advantage. I view mach as long-term investment into making the overall developer experience better
# [05:24] <markh> yeah, I'm certainly on-board conceptually - especially after taking about 5 minutes to work out how to run tests in some cases :)
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# [05:31] <nthomas> AIUI it was crashing a lot on startup, but I don't know if it was 100% of the time
# [05:32] <aja> jessup, nthomas: every time for me anyway
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# [08:22] <qDot> Damnit. Burned. Backing out.
# [08:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02ba33fdf2d2 - David Zbarsky - Bug 790508: SampleAnimations should walk the layer tree from the root instead of from the primary scrollable layer r=cjones
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# [08:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2a95427068a - Patrick Wang - Bug 791935 - Part 2: Send MT Call, Call Connected and Call Disconnected envelope commands r=philikon
# [08:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13085adbbf5d - Patrick Wang - Bug 791935 - Part 1: IDL change r=philikon sr=sicking
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# [08:29] <philor> pile on that burning, it'll hide your burning!
# [08:29] <philor> ah, too late now
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# [08:30] <qDot> Well, unless I burned my unburn.
# [08:30] <qDot> I would not put it past me.
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# [08:44] <smaug> hmm, do we have necko devs in Europe
# [08:45] <smaug> the other Honza perhaps
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# [08:48] <qDot> Ok, looks like my backout succeeded.
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# [08:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17f579c381b1 - Eric Chou - Bug 795410 - patch 1: Basic function prototype, r=qdot
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# [09:00] <Asa> anyone know how to delete a public etherpad at etherpad.mozilla.org?
# [09:00] <thbet> are there any utilities available to read Mozilla databases, which end with .db extension stored in User Profile folder?
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# [09:03] <Jesse> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/KeyboardEvent (1) warning: keycode is deprecated, you should use key instead. (2) note: key is not yet implemented in gecko
# [09:04] <KWierso|Home> Asa: I'd guess you'd need to dig in to the database manually? I don't see any "delete" button, and a quick web search doesn't have any results :(
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# [09:04] <glandium> thbet: secure*.db and cert*.db?
# [09:05] <thbet> glandium: yep
# [09:05] <glandium> thbet: nss tools
# [09:05] <@smaug> Jesse: so?
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# [09:05] <glandium> thbet: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/tools/
# [09:05] <thbet> glandium: ok. thks :)
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# [09:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/307b15d6a63f - Kyle Machulis - Bug 790739: Patch 2 - BluetoothSocketConnection changes for server sockets; r=cjones
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# [09:50] <gaston> glandium: can you have a look at the ionmonkey merge failure for ppc (#792085) ? i'm afraid i wont be able to fix it before next uplift..
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# [09:51] <Optimizer> how to force sync from chrome code ?
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# [09:55] <Optimizer> what is happening with me : I have an addon whose preferences I have enabled for syncing.
# [09:56] <gcp> my bank stopped working with nightly
# [09:56] <glandium> gaston: i won't have the time until way after the next uplift
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# [09:56] <Optimizer> I install is at one place, change some preferences, wait for some time and install it freshly on another machine (which is obv synced with the other machine), but sync thinks that the new install preferences are latest (which are blank) and updates the other machine overwriting my changed preferences :(
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# [09:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82ee9a90351f - Gina Yeh - Bug 795249 - Final version: Broadcast hfp connection status with system message, r=qdot
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# [09:59] <glazou> bonjour
# [09:59] <Unfocused> the french are invading!
# [10:02] <KWierso|Home> Optimizer: I'd had weird things happen like that with syncing NoScript's whitelists. Adding NoScript/Sync to a different profile blows away the settings in the original, instead of accepting the original as canon.
# [10:02] <Optimizer> KWierso|Home: so any luck finding a solution ?
# [10:02] <KWierso|Home> I got nothin'
# [10:02] <Optimizer> so you did not implement sync ?
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# [10:03] <KWierso|Home> if the sync setup process let me choose the "blow away everything locally" option (instead of defaulting to "merge everything"), maybe it would just magically work
# [10:03] <KWierso|Home> I tried doing sync-related stuff in some of my addons, but gave up for this reason
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# [10:04] <Optimizer> I am trying to do it a hacky way
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# [10:05] <Optimizer> i just thought of a workaround :)
# [10:05] <KWierso|Home> Optimizer: I guess if you set up the preference sync preferences in your preferences file, and then dynamically create the actual preferences you want synced, it might work?
# [10:05] <Optimizer> my addon is bootsrtapped, so I already dynamically create all the preferences
# [10:05] <Optimizer> so no, it does not work
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# [10:07] <Optimizer> KWierso|Home: let me try out what I came up with just now, and I will ping you if it works on all edge cases
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# [10:08] <KWierso|Home> hrm, if sync only syncs modified preferences, and (iirc) dynamically-created preferences show up as modified, even if they're defaults, I guess sync is doing the "right" thing by overriding other installations with the more recently modified local copy?
# [10:08] <Optimizer> but in the about:config page, it knows that this is a default status pref, and this is user modified
# [10:09] <KWierso|Home> I fall back on my "I got nothin'" comment in that case :)
# [10:09] <Optimizer> so imo, it should not override the default status pref if created fro the first time, if there is something available on the sync server
# [10:09] <glazou> Unfocused: eh :-)
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# [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1caa3c482541 - Henri Sivonen - Bug 503190 - Include assertions in the C++ translator output. r=smaug.
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# [11:08] <Bas> How do I allow remote XUL from bugzilla?
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# [11:09] <KWierso|Home> Bas: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_Remote_XUL
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# [11:14] <Bas> KWierso|Home: Thanks :)
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# [11:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64236acfaa80 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 791774 (Hook DOM lists up to the new DOM bindings). r=bz.
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# [12:21] <Yoric> At the moment, how do we install an open web app (as a user)?
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# [12:34] <mounir> Yoric: which platform?
# [12:34] <mounir> Yoric: actually, whatever the platform is, you have to go to the a marketplace, as a user
# [12:34] <mounir> which means, Mozilla marketplace
# [12:35] <Yoric> Oh.
# [12:35] <Yoric> So how do developers test that?
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# [12:35] <paul> or you just host the app yourself
# [12:36] <paul> you don't need to use the marketplace
# [12:36] <Yoric> Where is this documented?
# [12:36] <paul> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps
# [12:36] <paul> Yoric: put your manifest + app, somewere, then do this:
# [12:36] <paul> navigator.mozApps.install("http://path.to/my/example.webapp");
# [12:37] <paul> Yoric: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Apps/Getting_Started#Installing_the_app
# [12:37] <Yoric> Thanks.
# [12:37] <Yoric> We should probably also add that info to page "For Web Developers".
# [12:37] <paul> probably
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# [12:38] <paul> I was confused at first (had the same questions)
# [12:38] <mounir> Yoric: you asked "as a user"
# [12:38] <mounir> as a user, using the marketplace is the only solution
# [12:38] <mounir> as a developer, there are way more solutions
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# [12:39] <glazou_bbl> paul: yo, I need to talk to you
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# [12:39] <paul> glazou: what's up
# [12:40] <Yoric> mounir: Well, if navigator.mozApps.install() is called, any user can install the app, can't they?
# [12:40] <Yoric> (although I will grant you that my question was ambiguous)
# [12:40] <Yoric> paul: mounir: Thanks.
# [12:40] <mounir> Yoric: if by user, you mean end user, no, navigator.mozApps.install() isn't trivial to use
# [12:40] <paul> erf
# [12:41] <mounir> you even need to add privileges IIRC
# [12:41] <Yoric> mounir: Well, I assume that navigator.mozApps.install() has been put somewhere in the source code of the add/page.
# [12:41] <mounir> by privileges, I mean permissions
# [12:41] <Yoric> Ah, ok.
# [12:41] <Yoric> s/add/app/
# [12:41] <mounir> oh actually
# [12:42] <mounir> it might just show you a door hanger
# [12:42] <mounir> asking to install the app
# [12:42] <mounir> on desktop
# [12:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6727fcb41025 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 791953 Fix lossy conversion warning in gfxFont.h r=jfkthame
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# [12:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e848e6427591 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 795328 - Refactor some code in nsEventListenerManager by using GetTargetAsInnerWindow(). r=smaug
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# [13:43] <baku> question: from ASCII to UTF8, do we have a macro?
# [13:43] <baku> CopyASCIItoUTF16 this exists, but CopyASCIItoUTF8 doesn't.
# [13:44] <baku> smaug, ping
# [13:44] <mounir> baku: nsAutoCString str; str.AppendLiteral(str);
# [13:44] <@smaug> baku: pong
# [13:44] <mounir> maybe?
# [13:44] <NeilAway> wow, some serious kerning going on, "wear." is narrower than "ware."
# [13:44] <baku> mounir, tnx :)
# [13:44] <baku> I try
# [13:44] <@smaug> yeah, AppendLiteral
# [13:44] <@smaug> or AppendASCII
# [13:44] <baku> mmm the problem is that I have a nsCString
# [13:45] <NeilAway> baku: 7-bit ASCII is the same in UTF-8
# [13:45] <baku> what about AppendLiteral(myCString.get()) ?
# [13:45] <@smaug> no
# [13:45] <@smaug> AppendLiteral is for literals only
# [13:45] <@smaug> "foobar"
# [13:45] <NeilAway> baku: if you know the string is ASCII, just pass it directly
# [13:46] <baku> I have a nsCString containing a 'byte' sequence.
# [13:46] <NeilAway> baku: so, which character set are these bytes in?
# [13:46] <@smaug> about AppendLiteral, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsTSubstring.h?mark=450-452#450
# [13:46] <baku> ok let's start from scratch
# [13:47] <baku> smaug, ok
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# [13:56] <baku> mmm still thinking about this issue.
# [13:56] <baku> I was saying... XHR
# [13:56] <baku> getAllResponseHeaders() returns a string converted from ASCII to UTF8
# [13:57] <baku> this means
# [13:57] <baku> if I have X-Custom-Header-Bytes: …
# [13:57] <baku> the getAllResponseHeader() returns X-Custom-Header-Bytes: â¦
# [13:57] <baku> and this is right.
# [13:58] <baku> but if I do getResponseHeader('X-Custom-Header-Bytes') the output is …
# [13:58] <baku> and this is probably wrong.
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# [14:03] <baku> NeilAway, so what I have to do is to 'inflate' the byte sequence into the DOMString
# [14:03] <baku> To inflate a byte sequence into a DOMString means to create a DOMString such that the nth code point has 0x00 as the high-order byte and the nth byte of the byte sequence as the low-order byte.
# [14:03] <baku> this is from the XHR spec.
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# [14:05] <baku> so I would like to have a NS_CStringToUTF16(aSource, NS_CSTRING_ENCODING_ASCII, aDest); but for UTF8.
# [14:05] <Ms2ger> Why do you need a UTF-8 string?
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# [14:06] <baku> my fault, I need a nsCString
# [14:06] <Ms2ger> Why?
# [14:07] <baku> because the retvalue of xhr.GetResponseHeader(...) is nsACString
# [14:07] <Ms2ger> It isn't
# [14:07] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsXMLHttpRequest.h#409
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# [14:08] <Ms2ger> You were looking at the old XPIDL signature
# [14:09] <baku> GetResponseHeader uses GetResponseHeader line 407
# [14:10] <Ms2ger> The conversion from bytes to a 16-bit string happens on line 421, UTF8ToNewUnicode
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# [14:11] <baku> k, let me take a look
# [14:13] <Ms2ger> We really should implement ByteString, though
# [14:13] <baku> that would be nice.
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# [14:14] <Ms2ger> Want to do that? :)
# [14:15] <baku> I have a test were in the header of a response I have: X-Custom-Header-Bytes: …
# [14:16] <baku> with GetAllResponseHeaders() I see â¦
# [14:16] <baku> but with GetResponseHeader('X-Custom-Header-Bytes') I see …
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> Presumably because we use UTF8ToNewUnicode, and not something that inflates
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# [14:19] <bholley> edmorley: ping
# [14:19] <baku> Ms2ger, yep this is my point. I'm going to file a bug
# [14:19] <edmorley> bholley: hi :-)
# [14:19] <Ms2ger> Good :)
# [14:19] * Ms2ger waves at edmorley, bholley
# [14:19] <bholley> edmorley: was bug 794420 winxp-only?
# [14:19] * bholley waves at Ms2ger
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> You know what's fun?
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> test_pointerlock-api.html | an unexpected uncaught JS exception reported through window.onerror - ReferenceError: start is not defined at http://mochi.test:8888/tests/dom/tests/mochitest/pointerlock/pointerlock_utils.js:58
# [14:20] <edmorley> bholley: no win7 too; I just noticed it on Winxp first
# [14:20] <edmorley> Ms2ger: hey :-)
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> More fun, I've seen it before :/
# [14:20] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah I need to file that, was just trying to get on with some orangefactor patches
# [14:21] <bholley> edmorley: ok, hm. so far I'm having trouble reproducing on my vm. I haven't done a full end-to-end run though, so I'll try that
# [14:21] <@smaug> oh, bholley is online after all. Sorry if you wanted to land the patch yourself
# [14:21] <Ms2ger> edmorley, do it, I can star for 15 more minutes or so ;)
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# [14:21] <bholley> smaug: you are more than welcome to :-)
# [14:22] <edmorley> Ms2ger: we now have whiteboard & disabled test support: https://bug620509.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=666504 (makes backporting a lot easier)
# [14:23] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [14:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a17579743ac9 - Ms2ger - Bug 795862 - Back out bug 486918 for build bustage in unreviewed code.
# [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e352d9f243e7 - Ms2ger - Merge backout.
# [14:31] <hsivonen> I hope the Servo folks are fully documenting their browsing context implementation
# [14:31] <Ms2ger> Hah
# [14:31] <Ms2ger> Also
# [14:31] <Ms2ger> peterv++
# [14:32] <hsivonen> I’m trying to figure out the semantics of Gecko’s mIsLoadingDocument
# [14:32] <hsivonen> this being nsDocLoader, it would be naïve to think it means we are loading a document
# [14:32] <gcp> Ms2ger: I saw there was an #include <vector> in there too. Are we Ok with STL?
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# [14:33] <@smaug> nsDocLoader is *old*
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# [14:34] <@smaug> looks like mIsLoadingDocument is at least 11 years old
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# [14:36] <@smaug> gcp: we're ok with some stl.
# [14:36] <@smaug> and probably only in non-perf critical code paths
# [14:38] <gcp> I would suppose the image scaler might be performance critical.
# [14:39] <@smaug> then better be sure stl is fast on all the platforms we support
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# [14:39] <gcp> would show up in tp I suppose
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# [14:40] <hsivonen> I wonder if anyone has cataloged all the notifications, events and similar things that we fire in the course of a document load
# [14:40] <@smaug> gcp: I doubt
# [14:41] <hsivonen> It’s like every one of them is based on a different mechanism
# [14:41] <hsivonen> nsDocShell and nsDocLoader are where my productivity goes to die
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# [14:45] <bhearsum> does anyone else have the issue of pages sometimes not "fully" loading? i hit this with bugzilla a lot. for example, it loads but it's missing some CSS and sometimes the state of the bug isn't correct (eg, the drop down will say FIXED instead of NEW or ASSIGNED)
# [14:46] <baku> Ms2ger, about the problem with getResponseHeader, the whatwg specs do not mention the inflating of the string. just the w3 specs do it.
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# [14:48] <Ms2ger> baku, whatwg uses bytestring
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# [14:48] <baku> k
# [14:50] <@bz_sleep> we should implement bytestring...
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# [15:15] <espindola> how does Firefox Health Report relate to telemetry?
# [15:16] <espindola> is it build on top or a new thing?
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# [15:35] <gcp> dao: got any suggestions? FIREFOX_FOR_ANDROID is a bit big :)
# [15:36] <Pike> espindola: they're perpendicular, and where they're not yet, they're supposed to become
# [15:37] <gcp> FXDROID_
# [15:37] <dao> yeah, that would work
# [15:37] <espindola> Pike: any guidelines to what should be include in one or the other?
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# [15:37] <mfinkle> gcp, what this about?
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# [15:37] <gcp> mfinkle: dao asked if we can prefix our specific telemetyr
# [15:37] <mfinkle> ah
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# [15:38] <gcp> mfinkle: I put FENNEC_ but Metro is also Fennec.
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# [15:38] <Pike> espindola: you need excellent reasons to add to the health report, and very good reasons to add to telemetry
# [15:38] <mfinkle> gap, we should file bugs to un-FENNEC metro
# [15:38] <mfinkle> "gap", really?
# [15:38] <mfinkle> gcp
# [15:39] <Pike> "mind the gcp"
# [15:39] <espindola> Pike: ok :-)
# [15:39] <gcp> if that's your idea, then I'd keep firefox for android as Fennec, given that it's the best known name
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# [15:39] <mfinkle> gap, it helps metro too
# [15:39] <mfinkle> they do not want to be known as fennec
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# [15:40] <gcp> ok, I'll push a FENNEC_ patch then
# [15:40] <mfinkle> gcp, does the server side telemetry team need any changes if we start using FENNEC_
# [15:41] <mfinkle> ?
# [15:41] <mfinkle> or is it already handled?
# [15:41] <gcp> I have some other telemetry in there already, though BROWSERPROVIDER_ isn't going to clash (and likely can go anyway), and OUT_OF_MEMORY has a report pending that I dont want to fuck up
# [15:41] <gcp> mfinkle: no, that's all automatic
# [15:41] <mfinkle> ok
# [15:41] <gcp> mfinkle: it will make historical reports difficult if you change stuff mid-course, which is why I'd like to have this cleared out ASAP
# [15:41] <mfinkle> indeed
# [15:42] <mfinkle> is metro reporting telemetry yet?
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# [15:43] <Mavericks> Is there a blogpost that talks about avoiding nspr types ?
# [15:43] <Mavericks> *about reasons for
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# [15:46] <bbondy> mfinkle: yes it is
# [15:46] <bbondy> interestingly 25% of cache gets corrupted on startup, vs the 10% usually on windows
# [15:46] <bbondy> for metro
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# [15:47] <mfinkle> bbondy: i wonder if some mobile.js prefs are affecting things
# [15:47] <mfinkle> bbondy: there is a bug to "clean up" the prefs
# [15:48] <bbondy> mfinkle: It's likely due to improper termination in some cases, or crashing on shutdown
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# [15:48] <gcp> OOM-style kills?
# [15:48] <bbondy> btw linux is the same
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# [15:49] <mfinkle> gcp, maybe
# [15:49] <mfinkle> metro likes to keep the browser running
# [15:49] <mfinkle> i don't know the rules for killing it though
# [15:49] <mfinkle> bbondy probably does
# [15:49] <gcp> are you sure? the metro guys patched idleservice because they're never idle for more than 2 minutes :P
# [15:49] <bbondy> we just need to flush the cache before suspend to improve things
# [15:50] <jesup> Windows will do shutdowns fairly frequently for updates, and laptops get shut down more often than desktops. So that increases the number of Windows clean non-crash shutdowns
# [15:50] <mfinkle> bbondy: fennec added support for closing and reopening the cache
# [15:50] <jesup> Not sure that accounts for it all, but certainly some
# [15:50] <mfinkle> which we use for native, but not xul
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# [15:51] <bbondy> mfinkle: ya I remember seeing that, probably we'll do the same, but bug 105843 will fix it either way
# [15:51] <mfinkle> indeed
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# [15:52] <bbondy> there's 0% cache corruption with that way on metro (but only 0 due to limited telemetry stats at the moment)
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# [16:03] <@khuey> edmorley: ping?
# [16:03] <edmorley> khuey: hi :-)
# [16:03] <@khuey> edmorley: could I talk you into remeasuring in bug 686795 with today's nightly (and a suitable baseline, like yesterday's?)
# [16:04] <edmorley> sure
# [16:04] <@khuey> \o/
# [16:04] <edmorley> the production page has been fixed to not use inline styles, so I presume you mean the one saved as an attachment?
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# [16:04] <@khuey> yeah
# [16:05] <edmorley> ok :-)
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# [16:05] <froydnj> Mavericks: I don't think there is
# [16:06] <froydnj> Mavericks: if there was one, it'd probably be on ehsan's blog
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# [16:10] <Mavericks> froydnj: ok. what could possibly be a few reasons in brief ?
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# [16:10] <Mavericks> reasons for avoiding nspr types
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# [16:11] <Ms2ger`class> Mavericks, we use stdint types now for consistency with roughly everyone else in the world
# [16:11] <Mavericks> i see
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# [16:11] <Ms2ger`class> Mavericks, and intermixing pr types and stdint types can break on BSD
# [16:11] <Ms2ger`class> Also on Windows in some cases, I believe
# [16:12] <gcp> 30% rise in telemetry submissions after fixing idle-daily
# [16:12] <gcp> f**k me
# [16:12] <Ms2ger`class> gcp, no thanks
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# [16:13] <@bz> gcp: what's idle-daily?
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# [16:14] <gcp> bz: notification that fires after we've been idle for 5 minutes
# [16:14] <@bz> gcp: heh
# [16:14] <gcp> Ms2ger`class: correct on the winodws thing. PRint32 != int32_t or smth.
# [16:14] <Ms2ger`class> I believe that's the case indeed
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# [16:16] <froydnj> gcp: nice!
# [16:16] <gcp> froydnj: its sad this took so long to notice
# [16:19] <froydnj> gcp: yeah =/
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# [16:22] <edmorley> gcp: which bug?
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# [16:23] <gcp> bug 792065
# [16:23] <gcp> in beta and aurora, it's closer to 50% increase
# [16:23] <gcp> which correlates to the "depending on the ram value in memory" part
# [16:23] <@ted> espindola: i dont' think you need to deal with the google copyright stuff, FWIW
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# [16:23] <@ted> we have a corporate contributor agreement with google, so if i land your patch it should be fine
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# [16:24] <@ted> if you want to get commit access you need to get added to the list of people on it, AIUI
# [16:24] <espindola> ted: I think I need to be added to some list. I had to for webm...
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# [16:24] <espindola> ah
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# [16:24] <gcp> random value in memory, rather
# [16:24] <espindola> let me check if there was any reply from legal
# [16:24] <@ted> lawyers are slow
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# [16:24] <@ted> but this should be fine, i've landed lots of patches for other people upstream
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# [16:25] <@ted> if you wind up doing significant hacking we can definitely get you commit access and jump through those hoops
# [16:25] <@ted> related: did you see my upstream review on that patch?
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# [16:26] <@ted> i think it just needed a little fiddling + a unit test
# [16:26] <edmorley> gcp: ta
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# [16:27] <espindola> ted: I got a reply saying I was already on the list, so I assume it is the same as the webm :-)
# [16:28] <gcp> Actually, given that that bug triggers only if you don't use firefox each day, it's probably much worse for release.
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# [16:34] <mkohler> I get the following error when I try to build Firefox (the same for Firefox for Android): http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853174 .. what's wong?
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# [16:34] <nemo> mkohler: um. bad permissions? :-p
# [16:35] <froydnj> gcp: when did idle-daily start going off the rails? or has it always been that way?
# [16:35] <nemo> mkohler: looks like a bunch of files missing exec
# [16:35] <nemo> mkohler: since you have /media/Data in there, my guess is a bad mount
# [16:35] <mkohler> nemo: that was my guess too, but I did a full new clone.. well, that could be
# [16:35] <nemo> if you can't set chmod +x ...
# [16:35] <nemo> perhaps a bad umask
# [16:35] <mkohler> let me check for that, thanks
# [16:35] <gcp> froydnj: remeber when fennec was DDOS-ing the server? my fix for that broke it here: bug 762620
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# [16:36] <hsivonen> sadly, making it right will be hard
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# [16:45] <Ms2ger`class> mounir, pong just for a moment
# [16:45] <mounir> Ms2ger`class: actually, I think a comment in the bug will do
# [16:45] <Ms2ger`class> Alright
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# [16:45] <mounir> Ms2ger`class: enjoy your class ;)
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# [16:48] <Ms2ger`class> mounir, thanks, I won't :)
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# [16:52] <sewardj> gkw: ping
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# [16:56] <mkohler> nemo: /media/Data wasn't mounted with "exec"
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# [16:57] <nemo> mkohler: ah. my first bet :)
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# [16:57] <Ms2ger`class> joe, mind feedback?'ing me for that basetypes.h patch?
# [16:57] <nemo> mkohler: security thing I guess
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# [16:58] <nemo> mkohler: hope you have a reasonably fast external HD tho, might get better perf on /home or /tmp
# [16:58] <nemo> I'm so loving having 16GiB of RAM on this machine. once a build is cached, things just blaze along
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# [16:59] <joe> well that was unusual
# [16:59] <joe> somehow the date on my Makefile.in got set to the future
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# [16:59] <joe> so pymake just vainly went into an infinite loop trying to rebuild Makefile so it was new enough
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# [17:01] <nemo> that seems rather buggy
# [17:01] <mkohler> nemo: well, it isn't really fast, but fast enough for me :)
# [17:01] <nemo> joe: I guess the fix would be to touch Makefile.in after generating Makefile
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# [17:01] <joe> nemo: before, maybe?
# [17:01] * nemo shrugs
# [17:01] <joe> yeah
# [17:01] <nemo> was just trying to allow in case the generation failed
# [17:01] <joe> touching Makefile.in so that its date was not in the future helped anyways :)
# [17:01] <nemo> can always touch with a date slightly past by a second
# [17:02] <nemo> joe: don't suppose your laptop is dual boot?
# [17:02] <nemo> (windows/linux)
# [17:02] <joe> nemo: my laptop is single boot OS X, but I have a dual boot windows/linux desktop :)
# [17:02] <nemo> joe: there's this situation people get in where the bios clock is UTC and Linux thinks it is in their TZ, or vice versa
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# [17:02] <joe> nemo: oh yeah, that's definitely the issue
# [17:02] <joe> heh
# [17:02] <joe> "hooray"
# [17:02] <nemo> usually is fixed after boot once network connection is established
# [17:03] <nemo> and time server is contacted
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# [17:03] <joe> yup
# [17:03] <nemo> but if you attempted an update or build before that...
# [17:03] <nemo> joe: proper fix ofc is to get those two on the same page ;)
# [17:03] <joe> yeah
# [17:03] <joe> i think I will do that soon
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# [17:03] <nemo> but even then there can be time slippage in time servers and bios clock, soooo, definitely a bug in pymake
# [17:04] <nemo> Apparently today is linux support day on #developers
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# [17:04] <joe> more like windows support day :)
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# [17:05] <nemo> joe: oh. that's odd. normally windows comes preinstalled on a device, so bios and OS are in agreement
# [17:05] <nemo> so I assumed linux if there were any bios/os disfunctions
# [17:05] <@ted> we should probably just error out if you have timestamps in the future
# [17:05] <@ted> "hey, your shit is broken"
# [17:06] <nemo> that seems a bit harsh
# [17:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9e8a91dfbc7e - Victor Porof - Bug 790650 - It may be a good idea to have the debugger start with collapsed panels, r=past
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# [17:06] <@ted> better than infinitely looping
# [17:06] <nemo> yes. but touch seems friendlier
# [17:06] <@ted> eh
# [17:06] <nemo> esp if a filesystem moves between devices like mkohler's does
# [17:07] <@ted> it's a pretty extraordinary case
# [17:07] <nemo> s/devices/computers/
# [17:07] <nemo> 'spose
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# [17:07] <nemo> so sick of moving between python 2 and python 3
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# [17:07] <nemo> dislike python enough as is. IMA gonna rewrite this script in another language
# [17:07] <@ted> why are you moving between them?
# [17:07] <nemo> as near as I can determine, it is impossible to migrate this script to python 3
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# [17:07] <nemo> ted: oh. stupid python changed their I/O model. broke a wrapper script
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# [17:08] <nemo> I spent a few hours trying to migrate it, but there was no clean solution
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# [17:08] <@ted> i know about python 2/3 headaches
# [17:08] <nemo> such a big change, a legacy mode would have been nice
# [17:08] <@ted> just wondering why you're working with both
# [17:08] <nemo> could have slapped that into the header
# [17:08] <nemo> ted: I've replaced most of these scripts with languages that annoy me less
# [17:09] <gkw> sewardj: pong
# [17:09] <sewardj> gkw: hi
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# [17:09] <sewardj> gkw: just wondering if you have already seen 795855
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# [17:10] <sewardj> gkw: seems like I'm duplicating some of the bugs you file. We should maybe have a way to coordinate?
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# [17:15] <bhearsum> arky: hey! how's it going?
# [17:15] <arky> bhearsum, pretty good. Just returned from a road trip
# [17:15] <bhearsum> arky: nice :)
# [17:15] <bhearsum> arky: i was just wondering if you saw my reply to your mail re: exporting full sets of suggestions from Narro
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# [17:16] <arky> bhearsum, Yes, I saw the email. Answer: AFAIK Current options only export one suggestions not all
# [17:16] <bhearsum> ah
# [17:16] <bhearsum> alright
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# [17:17] <bhearsum> it sounds like we should finish up approvals in narro before migrating, then
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# [17:20] <glandium> is it just me or the api is awkward? https://github.com/mozilla/mozhacks/blob/gh-pages/archive-api/js/archive-api.js#L27 when does the archive start being read? when filenames.onsuccess is set?
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# [17:24] <espindola> ted: doing the breakpad code review. On the comment you just want a s/place/places/ or for me to remove the "our"? Just AddStringToPool or all the methods?
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# [17:26] <espindola> ted: also, do you have instructions on how to run the tests?
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# [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d8822b9c0b5 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 708812 - Telemetry probes for GeckoApp startup. r=blassey
# [17:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56a268d63e01 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 708812 - Add telemetry probes for Android startup. r=blassey
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# [17:30] <@ted> espindola: hang on, lemme look at the review again
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# [17:32] <@ted> espindola: we don't build these tests from the xcode projects on mac, you have to use configure && make
# [17:33] <espindola> ted: do I have to pass any flags to configure?
# [17:33] <espindola> find . -name dwarf_cu_to_module_unittest*
# [17:33] <espindola> finds nothing on the build dir
# [17:33] <@ted> it links it into a src/common/dumper_unittest
# [17:33] <@ted> i think
# [17:34] <espindola> ah, looks like "make check" builds it
# [17:34] <espindola> or, builds something, lets see
# [17:34] <@ted> yeah
# [17:34] <@ted> it's a little weird
# [17:34] <@ted> you should be able to build that directly
# [17:34] <@ted> "make src/common/dumper_unittest"
# [17:34] <@ted> i'm not sure if this gets built on mac by default, actually
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# [17:35] <@ted> hooray for google's "cross-platform" development
# [17:35] <@ted> might need to build this on linux
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# [17:36] <@ted> espindola: re: the comment
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# [17:36] <@ted> something like "Place the name in the global set of strings..." and similar
# [17:36] <@ted> instead of "our"
# [17:37] <espindola> ok
# [17:37] <espindola> let me try on linux
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# [17:38] <@ted> i know these tests build and run there
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# [17:42] <nemo> *sigh* whose bright idea was it to have 2 majore mozilla products, completely different, where the only difference in their names is that one is a plural of the other?
# [17:42] <nemo> s/majore/major/
# [17:43] <nemo> Is it really that hard to come up with unique product names within a single company? :-p
# [17:43] <nemo> could have, oh, rebranded Personas first if the Persona team was really desperate for that name
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# [17:44] <@ted> i'm afraid you're preaching to the choir here
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# [17:44] <nemo> ted: just a lack of internal coordination or something?
# [17:44] <nemo> hm. are product launches run through any kind of marketing person at all?
# [17:45] <@ted> i'm sure they are
# [17:45] <mcsmurf> obviously noone asked Google before on that name ;-)
# [17:45] <@ted> i don't know the specifics of this
# [17:45] <@ted> but you can be sure a lot of us grumbled about it!
# [17:45] <nemo> mcsmurf: google has a persona too?
# [17:46] <nemo> mcsmurf: collisions in software products aren't great (remember phoenix and firebird?) but when it is the same company? that's just silly :)
# [17:46] <mcsmurf> I meant in the sense of "googled"
# [17:46] <mcsmurf> :)
# [17:46] <nemo> ahhh
# [17:46] <nemo> s/run through/run past/
# [17:46] <nemo> although I suppose in some sense marketing digests product launches :P)
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# [17:53] <whimboo> smaug: ping
# [17:54] <mounir> nemo: people who take the decision knew about that
# [17:54] <mounir> someone has been able to try Yandex browser?
# [17:54] <whimboo> smaug: mpt sure if i have asked it already. but can you connect to MV VPN?
# [17:54] <nemo> mounir: well, I'm sure pretty much everyone knew about it :) isn't like Personas is an obscure project :)
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# [17:56] <@khuey> g
# [17:56] <@smaug> whimboo: dunno how to connect to MV VPN
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# [17:57] <whimboo> smaug: for a testcase it's the best solution
# [17:57] <whimboo> i will try to get a log then
# [17:57] <@smaug> I would just run the web app to get logs
# [17:57] <@smaug> so it doesn't matter who gets the logs
# [17:58] <@smaug> but obviously the web app is leaky and needs to be fixed
# [17:58] <@smaug> we can make CC and GC faster, but the leak will slow down performance at some point
# [17:58] <@smaug> at least when OS starts to swap
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# [17:59] <whimboo> smaug: that I was thinking of
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# [17:59] <@smaug> (unless the process is killed because of OOM)
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# [17:59] <whimboo> no, we don't reach OOM
# [17:59] <whimboo> at least i did'nt in the past
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# [17:59] <whimboo> give me 30 more minutes
# [17:59] <@smaug> but happy to look at a CC log
# [17:59] <whimboo> then I should have a good sample for you
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# [18:28] <glandium> bz: what is it with it?
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# [18:28] <whimboo> smaug: mem usage is already high for me now. iGC is abut 200ms, and CC 300ms. so I would wait a bit more
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# [18:28] <@smaug> whimboo: that is probably enough
# [18:28] <@khuey> bz: did you want something?
# [18:29] <jwir3> wow mach is pretty sweet
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# [18:29] <@bz> glandium: it keeps breaking my builds?
# [18:29] <@bz> khuey: who's the right person to make fix issues with imagelib not notifying? :(
# [18:29] <jwir3> just needs a mode to enter gdb, and It'll replace my custom build scripts for day to day use.
# [18:29] <glandium> bz: i don't see how it can
# [18:29] <whimboo> smaug: k, will prepare another meeting and then come back to you
# [18:29] <@bz> glandium: easy. It complains about the pyc in build and js/src/build not matching
# [18:29] <@bz> glandium: (let's leave aside the pyc turds in srcdir part of the problem)
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# [18:30] <@khuey> bz: well since the gfx people like to pretend that imagelib doesn't exist ...
# [18:30] <@bz> khuey: yeah, I _had_ noticed that. :(
# [18:30] <@khuey> bz: maybe try jlebar? he should be back from vacation tomorrow
# [18:31] <glandium> bz: echo '*.pyc' > js/src/build/check-sync-exceptions
# [18:31] <@bz> ok
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# [18:31] <@khuey> bz: I could try to find time too if absolutely required
# [18:31] <@bz> glandium: mmm
# [18:31] <@khuey> bz: you could just assign the bug to joe ;-)
# [18:31] <@khuey> and let him find an owner
# [18:31] <@bz> glandium: can we get that backported to all the stuff I have to bisect over? ;
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# [18:31] <@bz> glandium: ;)
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# [18:32] <glandium> bz: it's interesting, though, that the same .py would create different .pyc, though... you gotta love python
# [18:32] <jcranmer> wow, compiling esr10 with tip clang has ... some interesting side effects
# [18:32] <@bz> glandium: mmm
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# [18:33] <glandium> jcranmer: iirc, there have been fixes made to m-c that fix weird stuff with clang, so i wouldn't be surprised esr10 is broken
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# [18:35] <@bz> so I have some JS
# [18:35] <@bz> it throws an exception
# [18:35] <@bz> in a nightly
# [18:35] <@bz> not in my own build
# [18:35] <@bz> wtf?
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# [18:36] <@bz> makes it hard to debug
# [18:36] <mcsmurf> I wonder if backouts of checkins should be directly checked in on mozilla-central?
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# [18:36] <@khuey> jcranmer: does it tear a hole in the fabric of space-time?
# [18:36] <mcsmurf> the backout was landed on m-i instead
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# [18:36] <jcranmer> it doesn't help that I keep forgetting that the system I want to compile on does not have autoconf-2.13
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# [18:37] <sfink|flu> depends on how time-sensitive the backout is
# [18:37] <@bz> ok
# [18:37] <mcsmurf> hm, well, it breaks my build at least ;)
# [18:37] <@bz> now what the hell do I do with this?
# [18:37] <jcranmer> bz: pretend it doesn't exist and go play video games instead?
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# [18:37] <sfink|flu> mcsmurf: and it managed to get merged to m-c?
# [18:37] <mcsmurf> yeah
# [18:37] <sfink|flu> bz: what exception?
# [18:38] <mcsmurf> tinderboxen are fine though, guess we don't use VS 2008?
# [18:38] <@bz> sfink|flu: NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED
# [18:38] <sfink|flu> bz: that's not a JS exception
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# [18:38] <sfink|flu> :)
# [18:38] <@bz> sfink|flu: well, a JS exception produced from that nsresult
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# [18:40] <glandium> bz: actually, there's already '*.pyc' in js/src/build/check-sync-exceptions
# [18:40] <@bz> glandium: right
# [18:40] <@bz> glandium: but as of when?
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# [18:40] <glandium> bz: and i can't reproduce
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# [18:40] <glandium> bz: it's in aurora
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# [18:41] <@bz> glandium: it's there since Aug 4
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# [18:41] <@bz> glandium: which means that any time I need to bisect something that broke before that, shit break
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# [18:41] <@bz> glandium: you should stop trying to worry about fixing it, because you can't. :(
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# [18:41] <glandium> bz: it's there since ConfigStatus.py
# [18:42] <glandium> bz: they landed the same day
# [18:42] <@bz> glandium: yes, but the point is that hg up -C on the srcdir doesn't make the pyc go away
# [18:42] <jcranmer> so, how much longer before we can eliminate configure?
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# [18:42] <@bz> glandium: right?
# [18:42] <@bz> glandium: and in particular, the updates that happen during bisect don't
# [18:43] <glandium> bz: ah, typical case of .hgignore being a PITA
# [18:43] <@bz> glandium: so if your bisect range spans those files being added, your build will fail every time you cross that boundary going backwards
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# [18:43] <@bz> glandium: my modest proposal is to make the build fail if someone drops pyc turds in the srcdir, if we can
# [18:43] <whimboo> smaug: sharing via dropbox, ok?
# [18:43] <froydnj> didn't we have this discussion already?
# [18:44] <@bz> dunno
# [18:44] <@bz> _I_ haven't
# [18:44] <@bz> at least not with glandium. ;)
# [18:44] * @bz has surely complained about pyc stuff to khuey
# [18:44] <froydnj> new interlocutors make it OK
# [18:44] <glandium> bz: you're free to remove all .pyc from you tree, and to set PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=1
# [18:45] <@bz> glandium: set it globally somewhere?
# [18:45] <glandium> yes
# [18:45] <glandium> export it
# [18:45] <@bz> glandium: that sounds promising....
# [18:45] <@bz> glandium: oh, in my own build env?
# [18:45] <@bz> hmmm
# [18:45] * @bz does that
# [18:45] <@bz> thanks!
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# [18:45] <jhammel> (I'd really love to see that be the default, but people are concerned about perf)
# [18:46] <@bz> perf of which?
# [18:46] <@bz> builds?
# [18:46] <jhammel> all python?
# [18:46] <glandium> jhammel: another problem is that it's python 2.6+ only (or did we get rid of 2.5 already?)
# [18:46] <@bz> right
# [18:46] <@smaug> whimboo: yup
# [18:46] <@bz> but the point is build-time perf, not runtime?
# [18:46] <@bz> since we have no runtime python
# [18:46] <jhammel> yeah, not Firefox perf; build+test perf
# [18:46] <@bz> ok
# [18:46] <@smaug> whimboo: I mean if that means without any login
# [18:46] <@bz> might be interesting to get those numbers
# [18:47] <gps> regarding pyc stuff, I've been thinking about writing a custom importer for our tree that will write pyc files in the objdir instead of srcdir
# [18:47] <glandium> gps: ++
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# [18:47] <glandium> gps: that's what i was saying last week
# [18:47] <gps> this is easily doable with Python 3.3 (which I hope we move to ASAP). I'm trying to get a brain dump from the Python gurus on how to best do this in 2.7
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# [18:48] <@bz> gps: PLEASE!
# [18:48] <jhammel> gps: heh, well if we get on 2.7 i'll be happy at this point
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# [18:48] <gps> jhammel: we *are* on 2.7 (for building at least)
# [18:48] <jhammel> the transition to 3....well....let's just say i'm not going to hold my breath
# [18:48] <gps> AFAIK all the builders are on 2.7 as of a few weeks ago
# [18:49] <gps> we still have a few test slaves on older
# [18:49] <jhammel> well, i'm living in a world where i still have to code to 2.4 ;)
# [18:49] <@bz> ys
# [18:49] <glandium> gps: aren't l10n builds on 2.4 or something?
# [18:49] <jhammel> thank you talos
# [18:49] <@bz> so I get this exception in a nightly
# [18:49] <jhammel> glandium: and windows talos
# [18:49] <@bz> but not in my own build from the same rev
# [18:49] <@bz> now what? :(
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# [18:49] <glandium> jhammel: maybe i'm mixing with talos
# [18:49] <froydnj> bz: congrats, you've been granted a license to abuse try for your builds!
# [18:49] <@bz> froydnj: mmm
# [18:50] <@bz> froydnj: assuming the try builds show the problem!
# [18:50] <froydnj> bz: indeed
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# [18:50] <@bz> but that's a good idea
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# [18:50] <@bz> I wonder how I can do try with least effort here
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# [18:51] <@bz> as in, running only my one test
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# [18:51] <whimboo> smaug: exactly
# [18:52] <froydnj> I was thinking you could get a try build, preferably with debug info, and then download to your local machine and work with that
# [18:52] <@bz> ah
# [18:52] <@bz> hmm
# [18:52] <@bz> That is an interesting idea!
# [18:52] * @bz tries that
# [18:52] <froydnj> maybe that is making a lot of assumptions
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# [18:53] <mbrubeck> jorendorff (or anyone who knows): Do you know if there's been any discussion of including ordered maps/sets in JS (e.g. as part of the harmony map/set proposals)?
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# [18:53] <froydnj> but that ought to at least remove the build environment differences
# [18:53] <jorendorff> mbrubeck: as far as I know they are in
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# [18:53] <jorendorff> Map and Set are ordered
# [18:53] <@bz> froydnj: yeah, let's see where it gets me
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# [18:54] <jcranmer> jorendorff: as in red-black-tree ordered?
# [18:54] <jorendorff> jcranmer: ah, no, order of insertion.
# [18:54] <jcranmer> I thought Map/Set could be anything
# [18:54] <jorendorff> jcranmer: yeah, it can, i misread you
# [18:54] <mbrubeck> jorendorff: Sweet, I would love to have that without needing to roll my own.
# [18:54] <jcranmer> jorendorff: any plans for an RB tree-based map/set?
# [18:55] <jorendorff> mbrubeck: an alternative to rolling your own is to use the internets http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4204408/javascript-need-a-decent-red-black-tree-implementation
# [18:55] <jcranmer> they occasionally come in useful
# [18:55] <jorendorff> they do
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# [18:56] <@bz> has anyone tries today's nightly?
# [18:56] <@bz> how's the dlbi fallout?
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# [18:57] <jcranmer> I'm of the belief that a serious programming language should come with RB map/set, hashmap/set, growable arrays, and linked list deques by default
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# [18:57] <froydnj> jcranmer: that makes a lot of languages non-serious
# [18:57] <jorendorff> jcranmer: you can make that happen
# [18:57] <@bz> do they have to be fast, or just exist?
# [18:57] <jorendorff> jcranmer: i'm not going to argue about it with you though; a lot of people are just going to disagree
# [18:58] <whimboo> smaug: ouch. 420MB each of those
# [18:58] <@bz> 'cause stdc++ comes with a bunch of stuff by default
# [18:58] <@bz> but.....
# [18:58] <jcranmer> decent performanc
# [18:58] <jorendorff> jcranmer: join es-discuss, engage with dherman, design an awesome API, and write some code.
# [18:58] <@smaug> whimboo: huh
# [18:59] <@smaug> whimboo: what kind of CC times did you have?
# [18:59] <whimboo> smaug: i thought about 10s or so
# [18:59] <whimboo> havn't closely obeyed
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# [18:59] <jcranmer> jorendorff: ES has hashmap/set and growable arrays already
# [18:59] <@smaug> whimboo: would be nice to get cc logs when cc time isn't that long
# [19:00] <jorendorff> jcranmer: I agree
# [19:00] <whimboo> smaug: not really doable. those stay that long
# [19:00] <@smaug> whimboo: analyzing smaller logs is a lot easier
# [19:00] <jcranmer> which is the most useful of the lot
# [19:00] <@smaug> whimboo: s/easier/faster/
# [19:00] <jcranmer> RB tree is just the "this is insane to code, use someone else's bug-free implementation instead"
# [19:00] <whimboo> smaug: i will give you my first one with 360MB
# [19:01] <@smaug> whimboo: couldn't you create the logs when CC time is like 200ms
# [19:01] <jcranmer> most of the other useful datstructures are just code-them-up-yourself-and-you'll-do-fine
# [19:01] <whimboo> smaug: i can try again
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# [19:14] <jdm> /run/media/jdm/ssd/pbngen/toolkit/components/downloads/nsDownloadManager.cpp:2308:1: error: unable to find numeric literal operator ‘operator"" xb9879a64’
# [19:14] <jdm> what the deuce
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# [19:18] <froydnj> jdm: welcome to user-defined literals!
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# [19:18] <jdm> froydnj: I don't even know what that means.
# [19:18] <froydnj> (which is probably not what you were intending to do
# [19:18] <jdm> froydnj: here's the source line: NS_IMPL_CLASSINFO(nsDownload, NULL, 0, NS_DOWNLOAD_CID)
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# [19:19] <froydnj> jdm: yeah, but what's the context of that line?
# [19:19] <jdm> froydnj: it's in the global scope
# [19:19] <jdm> no other context
# [19:19] <jdm> possibly inside a namespace
# [19:19] <froydnj> jdm: no, I mean the lexically surrounding lines
# [19:20] <whimboo> smaug: is an iGC of 130ms already helpful?
# [19:20] <jdm> froydnj: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853459
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# [19:20] <@smaug> whimboo: I guess so
# [19:20] <whimboo> smaug: k, will create a dump now
# [19:20] <@smaug> I don't know much about iGC times, but looks pretty high
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# [19:21] <whimboo> smaug: have 200ms now. so yeah. it's too high
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# [19:21] <whimboo> smaug: file is up in a bit
# [19:21] <froydnj> jdm: huh, ok, nothing crazy. compiler version? clang?
# [19:21] <whimboo> smaug: you need cc-edges and/or gc-edges? i assume only the latter one?
# [19:22] <jdm> froydnj: clang version 3.0 (tags/RELEASE_30/final)
# [19:22] <jdm> Target: x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
# [19:22] <@smaug> whimboo: I use only the first one
# [19:22] <@smaug> cc-*
# [19:22] <@smaug> whimboo: but upload both
# [19:22] <whimboo> k
# [19:22] <whimboo> will do
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# [19:23] <froydnj> jdm: guessing you should double-check your uuid syntax in nsIDownload.idl
# [19:24] <jdm> hmm, that's a good point
# [19:24] <jdm> thanks
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# [19:25] <jdm> froydnj: yeah, there was an extra 0x prefix on one of the numbers
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# [19:26] <@ehsan> rillian: started the conversion of alder
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# [19:26] <@ehsan> rillian: what's on there? seem like there's quite a lot of csets to be translated :)
# [19:26] <@ehsan> oh
# [19:26] <@ehsan> webrtc!
# [19:27] <rillian> yep
# [19:27] <rillian> thanks!
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# [19:29] <@ehsan> rillian: will ping you when it's done
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# [19:30] <vingtetun> sicking: pong
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# [19:31] <whimboo> smaug: it's up at https://www.dropbox.com/s/820qcp5vtactep4/cc_gc_log.zip
# [19:32] <@smaug> whimboo: thanks
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# [19:32] <sicking> vingtetun: who owns the frontend for network notifications?
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# [19:33] <vingtetun> i would say timdream
# [19:33] <vingtetun> if you mean the new onupload/ondownload events?
# [19:33] <@khuey> jdm: ping?
# [19:33] <vingtetun> (some code has already landed btw)
# [19:34] <jdm> khuey: yo
# [19:34] <vingtetun> sicking: ^
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# [19:34] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> _rs: where does the stub installer get the url for the complete installer? is it currently pointed at 'firefox-latest'?
# [19:34] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> err, rstrong: ^^
# [19:34] <@khuey> jdm: how is that imagelib api refactoring going?
# [19:34] <jdm> khuey: it's waiting on joe's reviews, and my private browsing work
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# [19:34] <rstrong> catlee-buildduty-mtg: yes
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# [19:35] <jdm> I've got a volunteer who might be following up on it; we'll see
# [19:35] <rstrong> catlee-buildduty-mtg: firefox-latest should always point to the latest full installer
# [19:35] <@khuey> fun
# [19:35] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> rstrong: the latest full installer for release channel. so the try build I did will be downloading a release build, right? and for nightly/aurora/beta testing we'll need to change the url
# [19:36] * @bz wonders how safe thunderbird nightlies are to use
# [19:36] <rstrong> catlee-buildduty-mtg: it uses branding to determine it based on the build
# [19:36] <jdm> khuey: why do you ask?
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# [19:36] <@ehsan> bz: I've had a bad experience
# [19:36] <rstrong> so, if it is using nightly branding it points to nightly's latest
# [19:37] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> rstrong: ah, ok
# [19:37] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> so try builds probably use nightly branding
# [19:37] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> where are those urls specified?
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# [19:38] <@khuey> jdm: I was going through my list of bugs and saw the off-main-thread-decoding bug
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# [19:38] <sicking> vingtetun: yes, hooking those up to UI
# [19:39] <vingtetun> sicking: already done
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# [19:39] <sicking> vingtetun: oooh! So then the feature is fully done?
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# [19:39] <vingtetun> more or less the ui needs a bit more love but the gaia patch has landed around noon (gmt) and it works :)
# [19:39] <@bz> ehsan: gotcha
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# [19:40] <sicking> vingtetun: rockin!
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# [19:40] <vingtetun> tim's rock :)
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# [19:41] <rstrong> catlee-buildduty-mtg: try builds will point to actual nightly, aurora, beta, or release depending on which of the brandings it used
# [19:41] <rstrong> typically nightly but it can be changed
# [19:42] <@ehsan> rillian: https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/tree/alder :)
# [19:42] <espindola> ted: do you get any test failures on linux64?
# [19:42] <espindola> I get 2 even with my patch reverted
# [19:42] <rillian> ehsan: awesome. many thanks!
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# [19:43] <@ted> espindola: no, it all passes for me, gcc-4.6
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# [19:43] <@ted> on ubuntu 12.04
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# [19:43] <espindola> ted: ok, thakns
# [19:43] <espindola> thanks
# [19:43] <@ehsan> rillian: sure thing
# [19:43] <@ted> np
# [19:43] <@ted> what are you failing?
# [19:43] <espindola> I guess using centos5 is not a good idea
# [19:44] <espindola> TEST(MinidumpWriterTest, SetupWithPath)
# [19:44] <espindola> the assert:
# [19:44] <espindola> ASSERT_TRUE(WriteMinidump(templ.c_str(), child, &context, sizeof(context)));
# [19:44] <espindola> is the one that fails
# [19:44] <jdm> firebot: uuid
# [19:44] <firebot> 35c1f231-582b-4315-a26c-a1227e3539b4 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [19:44] <@ted> huh
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# [19:45] <@ted> wonder what's failing there
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# [19:47] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> rstrong: ah, in branding.nsi
# [19:47] <catlee-buildduty-mtg> that's what I was after
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# [19:54] <@smaug> whimboo: do you have xul cache disabled ?
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# [19:54] <@smaug> or have you installed new addons?
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# [19:55] <whimboo> smaug: you mean nglayout.debug.disable_xul_cache?
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# [19:55] <@smaug> whimboo: there are also 11000+ objects pointing somehow to http://10.250.73.243:8080/static/29830985/images/16x16/hourglass.gif
# [19:55] <@smaug> whimboo: yeah, that one
# [19:55] <whimboo> smaug: looks like. seems to be a left-over from former times
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# [19:55] <@smaug> whimboo: that ruins all the CC optimizations
# [19:55] <whimboo> oh
# [19:56] <whimboo> let me disable it. does it need a restart?
# [19:56] <@smaug> well, not all, but lots of them
# [19:56] <@smaug> yes, restart
# [19:56] <@smaug> and give me new logs
# [19:56] <whimboo> smaug: the hour glass should be the problem given that the problem only occurs with a lot of builds in the queue
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# [19:56] <whimboo> k. updating to today's build
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# [19:57] <@smaug> I don't understand what is keeping the objects which point to http://10.250.73.243:8080/static/29830985/images/16x16/hourglass.gif alive
# [19:57] <@smaug> mccr8: ping
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# [19:57] <mccr8> smaug: pong
# [19:57] <@smaug> 0x171aecd40 [gc] JS Object (Object)
# [19:57] <@smaug> > 0x171aecd00 3 http://10.250.73.243:8080/static/29830985/images/16x16/hourglass.gif
# [19:57] <@smaug> what is that 3
# [19:57] <@smaug> is that array index
# [19:57] <mccr8> smaug: I'm not sure...
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# [19:58] * @smaug doesn't see such thing in his own logs
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# [19:58] <mccr8> yeah that's odd.
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# [19:58] <cheilmann> microsoft vs. the cloud http://www.typescriptlang.org/script/Clouds.js
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# [19:59] <whimboo> smaug: hm, looks like an addon is setting it to true
# [19:59] <whimboo> after a restart it's back
# [19:59] <mccr8> smaug: also odd that I don't see that JS object in the GC log...
# [19:59] <whimboo> smaug: i will test with a fresh profile
# [19:59] <@smaug> mccr8: yeah, I couldn't see that either
# [19:59] <mccr8> whimboo: you should figure out which addon it is, and then file a bug about maybe getting it blacklisted. Disabling the XUL cache is really bad...
# [19:59] <@smaug> whimboo: we must block such addon
# [20:00] <whimboo> mccr8: k, will do
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# [20:01] <mccr8> smaug: I mean, it should be impossible. maybe the pointers are in a different format?
# [20:01] <@smaug> they shouldn't be
# [20:01] <@smaug> whimboo: is it possible that gc and cc logs are from different runs?
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# [20:01] <mccr8> seems unlikely, they have the same PID and number
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# [20:01] <@smaug> ah
# [20:01] <@smaug> indeed
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# [20:02] <whimboo> smaug: no
# [20:02] <mccr8> really odd though! how is the CC seeing a JS object that the GC isn't seeing...
# [20:03] <@smaug> mccr8: need to test locally. I wonder if IonMonkey has changed gc object format
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# [20:03] <mccr8> smaug: I wouldn't think so, but I guess anything is possible.
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# [20:05] <firebot> Check-in:
# [20:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f127f704815c - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 784591. Add an optional argument to the unlock image api on documents so that we can request that the image be discarded only in some situations. r=khuey
# [20:05] <whimboo> smaug, mccr8: it's https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/extension-developer/
# [20:05] <whimboo> ted: ^
# [20:05] <@smaug> mccr8: locally gc log looks ok
# [20:06] <whimboo> so this extensino disables the xul cache by default as it seems
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# [20:06] <whimboo> i don't see any pref for it
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# [20:07] <whimboo> smaug: shall I file a bug under AMO or what is the proposed way
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# [20:07] <mccr8> whimboo: yes that would be good.
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# [20:07] <mccr8> whimboo: or maybe evangelism -> addons
# [20:08] <whimboo> mccr8: good point
# [20:08] <@smaug> at least there should be a comment in AMO that if you install that addon your browser will become a lot slower and may use more memory
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# [20:08] <whimboo> i will cc jorge
# [20:08] <whimboo> smaug: oh damn!
# [20:08] <whimboo> removed the addon and now only at 300MB footprint after startu
# [20:08] <whimboo> p
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# [20:09] <@smaug> 300MB o_O
# [20:09] <@smaug> that is a lot
# [20:09] <whimboo> one more restart and back at 400MB
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# [20:09] <whimboo> but with some more extensions reenabled
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# [20:10] <@smaug> you have some heavy addons
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# [20:11] <@smaug> this FF with Chatzilla, memchaser, about:cc + 21 tabs takes < 400MB
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# [20:12] <whimboo> smaug: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853530
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# [20:12] <@smaug> ah, fb
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# [20:14] <whimboo> mccr8: hm has the evangelism component been moved? can't find it anymore :?
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# [20:14] <whimboo> oh tech evan
# [20:15] <mccr8> yeah
# [20:15] <mccr8> Tech Evangelism -> Addons
# [20:15] <mccr8> CC me on the bug please.
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# [20:19] <whimboo> mccr8: looks like it's indeed an option in the extensin
# [20:19] <whimboo> but under Tools -> extension devleoper
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# [20:19] <whimboo> it always sets the pref but only to true if the menu item has been checked
# [20:19] <whimboo> and it's off by default
# [20:19] <whimboo> smaug: ^
# [20:20] <whimboo> so I think we are ok here
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# [20:20] <@smaug> whimboo: k
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# [20:20] <whimboo> smaug: getting new data for you now. will have it after supper
# [20:21] <philor> gcp: you busted Android ts in everybody's favorite obscure way, by causing a "[JavaScript Error:..."
# [20:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85df971e0db1 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795394 - Default to utf-8 encoding when no encoding is specified; r=jhammel
# [20:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/573907d351e3 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795491 - Improve mach's help text; r=jhammel
# [20:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/98d8b5c9bafb - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795477 - Install NullHandler on root logger; r=jhammel
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# [20:32] <ddahl> Callek: very glad you have joined Mozilla Corp! good news.
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# [20:32] <Callek> ddahl: thanks
# [20:33] * Callek sees few read planet fully :-)
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# [20:33] <ddahl> Callek: its on the meeting wiki too
# [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d17c811e3b8c - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 2d8822b9c0b5 and 56a268d63e01 (bug 708812) for Android ts red
# [20:33] <ddahl> Callek: are you working on testing as well - for Firefox OS?
# [20:34] <Callek> ddahl: yea, I've been pinged a lot for congrats since it was on meeting wiki, and very few when I posted it to my planet-aggregated blog last week
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# [20:34] <Callek> ddahl: I haven't done any Firefox OS testing specific stuff yet, but it is likely on my plate once the B2G/Ateam figure out some details
# [20:34] <ddahl> Callek: i forget to read planet, although I see the part of the stream on twitter
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# [20:37] <@bz> hmm?
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# [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff86ec766232 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 793310 - Support sms:, tel: and mailto: URI schemes, r=philipp
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# [20:40] <@bz> jhammel: and weren't you better off that way? ;)
# [20:40] <jcranmer> yep, there is
# [20:40] <@bz> so is there moco meeting today?
# [20:41] <jhammel> bz: nah, now i can link to my phone number; though i'm not sure that is a feature, come to think of it
# [20:41] <@bz> or did the alarm fire it?
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# [20:41] <Callek> bz: yea, was wondering that as well
# [20:41] <tessarakt> jhammel: well, in a white-pages website tailored for mobile devices, it is
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# [20:43] <@bz> ok
# [20:43] <overholt> bz, Callek, there is
# [20:43] <@bz> so can I use the stuff in http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/bzbarsky@mozilla.com-ec36b5b66a88/try-macosx64-debug/ to usefully debug stuff with gdb?
# [20:43] <johanc> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853597 ^
# [20:43] <@bz> the actual build seems to have pretty minimal symbols...
# [20:43] <Callek> bz: Potch just confirmed for me it is still on
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# [20:44] <vlad> bz: question on the requestAnimationFrame patch (that I'm still trying to land, working through test issues!)
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# [20:44] <vlad> bz: it seems to be tickling various test issues where we expect asynchronous scrolling to work in a certain way
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# [20:45] <@bz> overholt: cool, thanks
# [20:45] <vlad> bz: and given the timer scheduling, it might not end up in the exact order that it used to -- as long as synchronous scrolling is synchronous, that sounds fine, right?
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# [20:45] <vlad> to give you an example, bug 768838 is tickled heavily by my patch; I fixed it by rewriting the test to explicitly advance the refresh driver
# [20:45] <@bz> vlad: I don't know
# [20:46] <@bz> vlad: Check with roc?
# [20:46] <vlad> bz: nod, k
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# [20:56] <gps> mach's config effectively does nothing right now
# [20:56] <BenWa> gps: Does it still respect MOZCONFIG env variable?
# [20:56] <evilpie> jduell: in bug 795442 what is the e10s support about? is there anything fancy to do there?
# [20:56] <gps> BenWa: it should
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# [20:57] <BenWa> gps++ Great tools so far. We've needed something like this for a long time!
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# [20:57] <bsmith> glandium: could you please review these two changes to confgure.in for the NSPR and NSS upgrades?:
# [20:57] <bsmith> https://hg.mozilla.org/try/diff/de14cd1ab1a2/configure.in
# [20:57] <bsmith> https://hg.mozilla.org/try/diff/6a13544f8683/configure.in
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# [20:58] <jduell> evilpie: for now we may not need it. In order to support it, we'd ship the 'hint' dispo name across to the parent in SendAsyncOpen (either in the nsILoadContext via the callbacks or as a separate arg)
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# [20:59] <jduell> and then set it on the "real" necko channel in the parent.
# [20:59] <evilpie> interesting
# [20:59] <jduell> evilpie: but it looks like for now that we're setting and getting in the same process so we may not need to bother.
# [20:59] <@bz> mmm
# [20:59] <@bz> no webcast
# [20:59] <@bz> ah, well
# [20:59] <jduell> bz: yeah, what's up with that?
# [20:59] <ehsan_> fabrice: gentle ping about the bugmail extension :)
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# [21:00] <@bz> jduell: dunno
# [21:00] <jduell> There's only so many times I can hit refresh before my mind wanders...
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# [21:01] <evilpie> jduell: so in that case, i think the patch should be okayish
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# [21:01] <evilpie> i tried to be clever in nsBaseChannel.cpp, but i am not sure if this is worthwile
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# [21:02] <jduell> evilpie: any reason you needed to make both contentDispoFilename and contentDisposition writeable?
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# [21:04] <evilpie> in DispatchContent we do somthing like if (GetContentDisposition(&a) && a == DispoitionAttachment) handleExternal()
# [21:04] <evilpie> and in one other place, too
# [21:05] <evilpie> feels cleaner than having the filename force this implicitly
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# [21:06] <ehsan_> jimm-lunch: thanks for the analysis and the update
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# [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0873dd40e2d - Joe Drew - Bug 486918 - Create and obey a high-quality downscaling pref, and turn it off on OS X and mobile. r=jlebar
# [21:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/717fb1afa612 - Joe Drew - Bug 486918. Part 1: Import Chromium's higher-quality image scalers, since we know those to be good and shippable. r=jrmuizel
# [21:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/780d5ccc064c - Tatiana Meshkova - Bug 486918. Part 2: Add the ability to pre-downscale using a high-quality scaler on a separate thread. r=joe,jlebar
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# [21:14] <seth> Shmem::Dealloc(Shmem::IHadBetterBeIPDLCodeCallingThis_OtherwiseIAmADoodyhead(), rawmem);
# [21:14] <seth> heh
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# [21:17] <jduell> evilpie: ah, so you need to override contentDisposition too, to set ATTACHMENT.
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# [21:18] <evilpie> jduell: yep
# [21:18] <jduell> evilpie: ok, that seems fine. I'm looking over the rest of the patch now...
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# [21:18] <evilpie> :) thanks!
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# [21:22] <jhk> ping: jdm
# [21:22] <jdm> jhk: yo
# [21:22] <jhk> when I cloned the repo in patches I have this series http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853647
# [21:23] <jhk> when I did qpush only 2 applied without conflict
# [21:23] <jdm> heh
# [21:23] <jdm> I'm not _terribly_ surprised
# [21:23] <jhk> :)
# [21:24] <jdm> hoist-mimage can be ignored
# [21:24] <jdm> but yeah, if you feel like rebasing, you're welcome to do so
# [21:24] <jdm> you're also welcome to find something else to work on; I won't force you to fix my stuff :)
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# [21:25] <jhk> sure. do you have something in mind?
# [21:27] <jhk> jdm: ^
# [21:28] <jdm> I don't have any other things of mine that need an owner right now
# [21:28] <jdm> HEY EVERYONE
# [21:28] <jdm> jhk is looking for fun stuff to work on
# [21:28] <jdm> he's got various c++ gecko bugs under his belt
# [21:29] <@khuey> hmm
# [21:29] * @khuey looks around
# [21:29] * @khuey would like a victim for 793460
# [21:30] <@khuey> and then the follow up I haven't filed about converting File to the new DOM bindings
# [21:30] <aja> ruby <eg>
# [21:30] <@khuey> there's also bug 760851
# [21:30] <@khuey> that could be interesting
# [21:31] * jhk looking..
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# [21:34] <jduell> biesi: ping
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# [21:37] <jhk> khuey: 760851 sounds fun
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# [21:38] <@khuey> jhk: cool
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# [21:42] <jduell> Do I recall it being mentioned somewhere that we shouldn't use nsRefPtr<nsString> as a member variable in a class? Don't see any uses in the tree...
# [21:43] <@khuey> I'll mention it here
# [21:43] <@khuey> don't do that :-)
# [21:43] <jcranmer> uh, nsString isn't a refcounted class
# [21:43] * @khuey would be impressed if that compiled
# [21:43] <espindola> ted: ok, the tests work on a fedora 17 vm
# [21:43] <espindola> I uploaded a new patch
# [21:43] <@khuey> and by impressed I mean horrified
# [21:43] <jduell> heh--I guess that would explain it...
# [21:43] <espindola> I also removed an unused argument to FindChildHandler
# [21:43] <espindola> let me know if you want me to split the patch
# [21:44] <@khuey> jduell: ns[C]String is like an nsCOMPtr for an nsStringBuffer
# [21:44] <@khuey> it handles the refcounting of the underlying buffer for you
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# [21:44] <@ted> espindola: cool
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# [21:44] <jduell> khuey: right, I just have a string that generall isn't going to be set, so I was thinking I could use an nsAutoPtr<nsString> or whatever to indicate both whether it's set, and save a few bytes in the case (99% of the time) when it isn't
# [21:44] <@ted> out of time today, will look tomorrow
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# [21:45] <@bz> nsAutoPtr<nsString> should be fine
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# [21:46] <@khuey> yeah, nsAutoPtr<nsString> is much different than nsRefPtr<nsString> ;-)
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# [21:46] <jcranmer> or was that nsAString::IsVoid? I can never remember
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# [21:47] <Optimizer> Any other Indian attending MozCamp ?
# [21:48] <@khuey> it's probably nsTSubString::IsVoid
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# [21:50] <jdm> mak: ping
# [21:50] <mak> jdm: hi
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# [21:50] <jdm> mak: what's the proper way to make the alter SQL not fail if applied multiple times?
# [21:51] <jdm> do I just ignore the rv code, or is there a special storage rv?
# [21:51] <mak> jdm: execute a SELECT column_name FROM table, and see if it fails
# [21:51] <jdm> great, thanks
# [21:51] <mak> jdm: there should bea columnExists API, I know :)
# [21:51] <jdm> heh
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# [21:52] <jdm> mak: actually, can I just use indexExists if I add one for guid?
# [21:53] <mak> jdm: hm, yes should just work the same
# [21:53] <mak> in the end it just does the same thing
# [21:53] <mak> little trick
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# [21:55] <@smaug> so download button is broken ?
# [21:56] <Optimizer> smaug: its not broken, its just lost
# [21:56] <Optimizer> hard time finding its anchor
# [21:56] <@smaug> I do have download button
# [21:56] <@smaug> when I'm downloading something
# [21:56] <@smaug> clicking it just doesn't do anything
# [21:56] <Optimizer> oh
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# [21:57] <@smaug> whimboo: hey, you're in MV somewhere atm?
# [21:58] <whimboo> smaug: sadly not
# [21:58] <@smaug> oh, I misunderstood
# [21:58] <@smaug> I can't understand the logs
# [21:58] <whimboo> just VPN'ed in
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# [21:59] <@smaug> the cc log contains again tons of JS objects which keep some http://10.250.73.243:8080/static/29830985/images/16x16/hourglass.gif thingie alive
# [21:59] <@smaug> (doesn't look to be an img element, but just some js strong or something)
# [21:59] <@smaug> but gc log doesn't know about that
# [21:59] <@smaug> totally bizarre log
# [22:00] <whimboo> smaug: yes those images are visible
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# [22:00] <whimboo> would you need a screenshot?
# [22:00] <@smaug> nopr
# [22:00] <@smaug> nope
# [22:00] <@smaug> whimboo: do you know what kind of code keep string "http://10.250.73.243:8080/static/29830985/images/16x16/hourglass.gif" alive
# [22:01] <jdm> mak: does the index name matter at all? do I have to refer to it anywhere else?
# [22:02] <mak> jdm: no, try to see if there's any other names index there, usually we use sometrhing like moz_downloads_columnname_uniqueindex
# [22:02] <jdm> ok
# [22:02] <mak> for the most part the only thing that matters is that the name is unique enough
# [22:03] <whimboo> smaug: lines like those
# [22:03] <whimboo> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853683
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# [22:05] <@smaug> whimboo: that is just html
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# [22:05] <@smaug> something takes the value of .src to js, I think
# [22:06] <whimboo> smaug: the code may be somewhere else which injects those lines
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# [22:06] <Waldo> firebot: ping
# [22:06] <firebot> Waldo: pong
# [22:07] <@smaug> whimboo: more like something takes the value of img.src
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# [22:07] <whimboo> smaug: i don't have time right now but a look at https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins might help
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# [22:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f134e05d0336 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 579517 follow-up: Remove NSPR types that crept in
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# [22:16] <jduell> biesi: never mind, thanks
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# [22:27] <jhk> khuey : nsIDOMPerformance. where it is?
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# [22:28] <@bz> jhk: it's not
# [22:28] <@bz> jhk: why are you looking for it?
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# [22:28] <jhk> bz : bug 760851
# [22:29] <@bz> jhk: ah
# [22:29] <@bz> jhk: dom/webidl/Performance.webidl
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# [22:29] <@bz> jhk: that bug was filed before we ported it to webidl, I think
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# [22:29] <jhk> bz: oh i see.
# [22:29] <@bz> jhk: and the implementation is dom/base/nsPerformance.h/cpp
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# [22:31] <@bz> is toJSON expected to return a string?
# [22:31] * @bz wonders whether there's a sane way to auto-generate the toJSON or whether it'll have to be all manual
# [22:31] <@khuey> it's expected to return whatever IE does
# [22:31] <@bz> mmm
# [22:31] <@khuey> because that's the extent of the spec at the moment
# [22:31] <@bz> well, the real question is what spidermonkey wants
# [22:31] * @bz tests something
# [22:32] <@khuey> window.performance.toJSON returns an object in IE
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# [22:32] <@bz> ok
# [22:32] <@bz> so that should be not too bad
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# [22:32] <@bz> define a dictionary
# [22:32] <@bz> with the things we want in it
# [22:32] <WeirdAl> gps: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853762
# [22:32] <@bz> and a toJSON that returns this dictionary
# [22:32] <@bz> and implement that
# [22:32] <@bz> not as cool as auto-generation, but ok for now, I think
# [22:33] <@bz> though really, if we decide _what_ we want to auto-generate doing so would not be hard
# [22:33] <@khuey> it looks like they just invoke all the property getters
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# [22:33] <@khuey> and then do a copy of the values onto an object
# [22:33] <@bz> hmm
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# [22:33] <@khuey> to please the JSON algorithm
# [22:33] <@bz> like the actual script-visible ones?
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# [22:33] <@bz> or their internal ones?
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# [22:34] <@khuey> are you asking if overwriting a property is reflected in the toJSON output?
# [22:34] <@bz> yes
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# [22:34] <@khuey> their properties don't accept modification
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# [22:34] <@bz> interesting
# [22:34] <@bz> how are you modifying?
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# [22:35] <@khuey> .foo = something else
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# [22:35] <@bz> Object.defineProperty(window.performance, "propname", { value: 5 } )
# [22:35] <@bz> Try that
# [22:36] <@bz> where "propname" and 5 are the parts you are allowed to edit. ;)
# [22:36] <@khuey> still has no effect
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# [22:37] <jorendorff> propname", (window.alert("pwnt"), {configurable: false, value: 7}, "
# [22:38] <jorendorff> meh, i always typo when i try xss
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# [22:38] <@khuey> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853763
# [22:38] <froydnj> surely some webmaster has fun sending mail to people who fail in their xss attempts
# [22:39] <Waldo> ehsan_: who's adding new NSPR type uses these days? do they not know about the standard types or something? I would have thought, a month after, that reviewers would be complaining, and people would have been learned good and proper by now
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# [22:39] <ehsan_> Waldo: I've notified some of those people but I've mostly given up :(
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# [22:39] <Waldo> ehsan_: why so?
# [22:39] * Waldo doesn't understand why people would be stubborn in resisting this
# [22:40] <ehsan_> Waldo: it's not that they're resisting, it's just that blaming and notifying them takes time
# [22:40] <ehsan_> Waldo: I'm on a path to remove prtypes.h inclusions altogether and that seems like a better time investment :)
# [22:40] <@bz> khuey: that's after your defineProperty call on window.performance.navigation?
# [22:40] <Waldo> ehsan_: oh, that sounds fair enough
# [22:40] <@bz> khuey: wait. You're getting it off the proto
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# [22:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3bec3b18597 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 793361 - Apps, SystemMessages: free message manager references for killed children. r=fabrice
# [22:41] <@bz> khuey: what are you testing and how? ;)
# [22:41] <ehsan_> Waldo: my plan is to remove all of the dependencies on prtypes.h except for PRUnichar, then put that in its own header and remove all prtypes.h includes
# [22:41] <@khuey> bz: I'm poking at IE 9 with the console
# [22:41] <@khuey> bz: there's nothing on the object itself ...
# [22:42] <jcranmer> ehsan_: the proper response is of course http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853766
# [22:42] <Waldo> ehsan_: sounds reasonable; I've wanted to add char16_t to mfbt somehow, but I've never been sure how possible/easy it would be :-\
# [22:42] <@khuey> bz: these performance objects are clearly behaving differently than other things
# [22:42] <biesi> whee char16_t
# [22:42] <@khuey> bz: I can override things with identical property descriptors on other objects in IE
# [22:42] <Waldo> and whether there wouldn't be depressing compat issues to work through, and all
# [22:42] <Waldo> biesi: yeah, it'd be nice, wouldn't it :-\
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# [22:43] <ehsan_> jcranmer: nice! :)
# [22:43] * Waldo hates x/Nch with a passion
# [22:43] <biesi> Waldo, yes! time to arrive in the future!
# [22:43] <gregglind> how does 'first run' detect new users?
# [22:43] <biesi> Waldo, actually you can do x/hs
# [22:43] <Waldo> o rly
# [22:43] <ehsan_> Waldo: yeah, I have not really looked into the char16_t compatibility yet
# [22:43] <@bz> khuey: my real question was this
# [22:43] <@bz> khuey: if you defineProperty on the object
# [22:43] <jcranmer> Waldo: the biggest issue with char16_t I'm aware of is that MSVC doesn't do char16_t as "real" types
# [22:43] <@bz> khuey: then: 1) If you do a .foo after that, do you see your redefined value?
# [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec776b922b23 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 791400 - AccessFu refactor for separating chrome and content. r=davidb
# [22:44] <@bz> khuey: 2) Does toJSON see your redefined value?
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# [22:44] <biesi> jcranmer, i.e. it's a typedef to wchar_t? is that a problem?
# [22:44] <ehsan_> Waldo: but the way I see things, at worst we'd have a PRUnichar.h which defines just that, and that would be the only scalar type ugliness we'd have to suffer from!
# [22:44] <@bz> khuey: 3) Should I just turn on my Windows box and answer my own damn questions? ;)
# [22:44] <@khuey> bz: no, and no
# [22:44] <Waldo> jcranmer: you mean it's just a typedef? I think that'd only affect overloading and template parameter matching, and if so I think we could reasonably tell people not to do stuff that broke by hitting those issues
# [22:44] <ehsan_> jcranmer: couldn't we just use wchar_t on msvc?
# [22:44] <@khuey> bz: and you can, but I don't think it's necessary
# [22:45] <ehsan_> yeah what Waldo suggests is reasonable
# [22:45] <jcranmer> sheesh, I do a bit of research and three people ping me instead
# [22:45] <@bz> khuey: that's really bizarre, for that first "no"
# [22:45] <jcranmer> char16_t is min-support clang 2.9/gcc 4.4
# [22:45] <@bz> khuey: but ok
# [22:45] <@bz> khuey: my gut feel is that if we auto-generate we should call our internal getters
# [22:45] <@khuey> bz: yeah, that is bizarre
# [22:45] <@khuey> bz: and yes, I agree there
# [22:45] <@bz> khuey: which would match the IE behavior
# [22:45] <@khuey> bz: I think the answers should be yes and no
# [22:46] <@bz> khuey: agreed
# [22:46] <jcranmer> MSVC is listed in my book as "no", but I think that's only because of the typedef issue
# [22:46] <@khuey> and no ;-)
# [22:46] <Waldo> ehsan_: there's some very nice Unicode code (mostly parsing Unicode data tables and generating C++ files, it's totally gorgeous, evilpie did good work) in JS that should be upstreamed...and would be now, but for the jschar dependency
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# [22:46] <ehsan_> jcranmer: so if we can typedef our way out of this on msvc, then gcc4.4/clang2.9 seems fine!
# [22:46] <Waldo> what's the minimum gcc we require to compile now, with 4.2-on-OSX dead?
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# [22:46] <ehsan_> Waldo: upstreamed to where?
# [22:46] <jcranmer> Waldo: 4.4 is needed for android
# [22:46] <ehsan_> Waldo: 4.4 for android
# [22:46] <Waldo> ehsan_: into mfbt
# [22:47] <ehsan_> Waldo: 4.2 is explicitly unsupported
# [22:47] <Waldo> Waldo: 4.4 for android
# [22:47] <@bz> waldo: 4.2-on-Linux?
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# [22:47] <ehsan_> Waldo: oh, please!
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# [22:47] <biesi> huh, I have gcc 4.7
# [22:47] <@bz> ehsan_: missed me!
# [22:47] <gps> WeirdAl: it certainly looks like your mozconfig isn't executing properly
# [22:47] <biesi> and I didn't even know that existed yet
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# [22:47] * ehsan_ retried
# [22:47] <gps> why, I dunno. I agree the error message could be more helpful
# [22:47] <ehsan_> and failed again!
# [22:47] <Waldo> updating Unicode version dependencies should be a matter of just importing a text file and running some scripts, but with JS having its own stuff, gfx (I think) having some, and XPCOM having some, it's a bit laborious
# [22:48] <Waldo> having one place doing it all once, by script, would be glorious
# [22:48] <biesi> Waldo, you forgot intl/uconv
# [22:48] <jcranmer> Waldo or whoever: char16_t appears to be typedefed to unsigned short on Windows
# [22:48] <Waldo> biesi: quod erat demonstrandum
# [22:48] <jcranmer> so s/PRUnichar/char16_t/ would give us no worse compatibility
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# [22:49] <Waldo> hmm, true, for our particular case, isn't it
# [22:49] <jcranmer> we'd just have to have a note that says "assume char16_t is a typedef and not a distinct type"
# [22:50] <jhk> khuey: a little yes ;)
# [22:51] <Waldo> biesi: 4.7 is something like a couple months new at this point
# [22:51] <@khuey> jhk: I'll update the bug with a summary of the conversation bz and i had in a bit and you can decide if you're still interested
# [22:52] <@bz> heh
# [22:52] * @bz was so not trying to scare off jhk
# [22:52] <jhk> bz, khuey : I am still interested :)
# [22:52] <marco> bsmedberg: ping
# [22:53] <@khuey> cool
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# [22:53] <@bz> I guess not so much
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# [22:54] <biesi> bz, no, though you could help yourself with a template factory function
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# [22:54] <jcranmer> Waldo: we'd also need to play some more games with NS_LITERAL_STRING, I think
# [22:55] <Waldo> hm, probably
# [22:55] * Waldo was just going to add char16_t as a new type and leave it at that, letting PRUnichar die in the course of time
# [22:55] <jcranmer> char16_t by itself isn't useful
# [22:55] * Waldo tends not to care when the end goal is reached, so much as progress remains ever upward
# [22:55] <jcranmer> we'd need to let some of our string apis take advantage of it
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# [22:56] <Waldo> for the Unicode querying code I wanted to upstream into mfbt, that's all I'd need
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# [22:56] <biesi> Waldo, heh, gcc 4.7 release notes mention firefox. http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.7/changes.html
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# [22:56] <Waldo> there's some value to it independent of string literals, although a bit less, to be sure
# [22:56] <Waldo> heh
# [22:57] <biesi> Waldo, easier gdb output is certainly an example
# [22:57] <biesi> (of char16_t value)
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# [22:57] <jcranmer> u"" doesn't work in gcc until .5
# [22:57] <jcranmer> er, 4.5
# [22:57] <Waldo> biesi: oh, right, yeah, that's huge
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# [22:58] <firebot> Check-in:
# [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2fb3f7e790d - Jeff Walden - Split up an assertion of x && y && z into separate asserts for x, y, and z, for easier at-a-glance understandings of failures should the assertion ever be hit. No bug,
# [22:58] <firebot> r=sparky
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# [23:00] <Mook_as> hmm, mfbt doesn't have something for __attribute__((unused)) ?
# [23:00] <jcranmer> char16_t * = reinterpret_cast<char16_t>( L"") appears to work
# [23:00] <jcranmer> (with -fshort-wchar of course)
# [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed626654fe56 - Terrence Cole - Bug 794667 - Add an AutoAssertCanGC to help with exact rooting; r=billm
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# [23:04] <jcranmer> we already have char16_t in our code ‽
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# [23:07] <jcranmer> http://dxr.allizom.org/search?tree=mozilla-central&q=char16_t&redirect=true
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# [23:11] <biesi> jcranmer, looks like all third-party code
# [23:11] <jcranmer> not the xpcom one :-)
# [23:11] <jcranmer> it looks like we use u"" if available anyways
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# [23:12] <biesi> jcranmer, oh heh missed that one
# [23:12] <jcranmer> so if we made PRUnichar == char16_t where available...
# [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14cf58aff2ec - Jeff Hammel - Bug 795943 - Mirror mozbase -> m-c for week of Oct 1 @ https://github.com/mozilla/mozbase/commit/22aa0aee78cb3c45ff8c4f1b1844f13216a9c220;r=wlach
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# [23:12] <biesi> hmm I vaguely do remember seeing that we use u"" for LITERAL_STRING
# [23:12] <biesi> though that doesn't use char16_t as such
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# [23:13] <WeirdAl> gps: I'm using export MOZCONFIG=(absolute path)
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# [23:13] * biesi eyes http://dxr.allizom.org/mozilla-central/xpcom/string/public/nsLiteralString.h#l50
# [23:13] <biesi> why is that commented out..
# [23:13] <jcranmer> biesi: u"" is a const char16_t[]
# [23:13] <biesi> jcranmer, I know, but we cast it to a PRUnichar
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# [23:14] <Waldo> biesi: if I had to guess, it's because the static-assert macros will fail to compile with various compilers in certain situations when a static-assert macro appears on the same line in two source files as part of a single compilation unit
# [23:15] <Waldo> </mouthful>
# [23:15] <jcranmer> biesi: ask dbaron
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# [23:17] <WeirdAl> gps - I've used the same mozconfig with pymake
# [23:18] <WeirdAl> (in the past, working fine)
# [23:18] <Waldo> Mook_as: no, nothing for unused thus far
# [23:18] <gps> WeirdAl: the only mozconfig + mach bug I know of is that mach executed the mozconfig with CWD=topsrcdir instead of PWD
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# [23:18] <jduell> anyone have any idea what I should look for if my windoze build started failing as of today with "xpt.py: bad magic"?
# [23:18] <gps> but mach should proxy all the environment variables to the regular build system
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# [23:18] <jduell> xpt.py hasn't changed recently...
# [23:18] <WeirdAl> gps: you mean it's ignoring my MOZCONFIG env var?
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# [23:19] <gps> WeirdAl: it shouldn't be, no
# [23:19] <WeirdAl> should be easy to test, I'd think
# [23:19] <gps> but if you are running mach not from topsrcdir (e.g. ../mach) then it might not work
# [23:20] <WeirdAl> I was running it from my mozilla srcdir
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# [23:20] <WeirdAl> not the ojdir
# [23:20] <WeirdAl> objdir
# [23:20] <WeirdAl> also, running from MozillaBuild
# [23:20] <WeirdAl> if that helps
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# [23:20] <gps> WeirdAl: touch configure.in, run |./mach build| and please verify the path to the mozconfig printed in the first few lines is sane
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# [23:21] <jduell> mconnor: ping
# [23:21] <WeirdAl> hehe, note to self: don't use tab after typing in build, since there's a directory named build/
# [23:21] <gps> WeirdAl: that reminds me - provide shell autocompletion file generators to mach :)
# [23:21] <WeirdAl> uhhh, gps, it didn't print *any* mozconfig path. It went straight to the error output
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# [23:23] <jduell> ehsan_: ping
# [23:23] <gps> WeirdAl: try running the following: |build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk|
# [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b198e36a7d73 - Bobby Holley - Bug 794912 - Remove dynamic privilege check in isCrossOriginAccessPermitted. r=mrbkap
# [23:24] <WeirdAl> /c/ff-trunk/configs/fx-opt.mozconfig: line 5: /browser/config/mozconfig: No such file or directory
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# [23:24] <WeirdAl> hm, I wonder when that went away
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# [23:25] <WeirdAl> ohhhhh
# [23:25] <WeirdAl> slash browser... not browser
# [23:25] <catlee-buildduty> how's inbound looking?
# [23:25] <gps> WeirdAl: wait - does the actual build system silently ignore that error?
# [23:25] <catlee-buildduty> are we likely to get another inbound -> m-c merge today?
# [23:25] <jduell> catlee-buildduty: windows is turning red on inbound...
# [23:25] <WeirdAl> I've no idea, I haven't tried
# [23:26] <WeirdAl> but $topsrcdir must've evaluated to ""
# [23:26] <catlee-buildduty> that doesn't bode well for this windows patch I want to land
# [23:26] <WeirdAl> here's the line in my mozconfig: . $topsrcdir/browser/config/mozconfig
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# [23:27] <WeirdAl> sorry, gps, gotta run for a bit :(
# [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/63b393c1facc - Chris AtLee - Bug 795982: Sign and upload stub installer. r=khuey,rail
# [23:28] <gps> WeirdAl: wait, you are referencing $topsrcdir in your mozconfig?
# [23:28] <gps> I don't believe that is a supported variable
# [23:29] <gps> it probably exists, sure, but you aren't supposed to be using it
# [23:29] <gps> @TOPSRCDIR@ is allowed
# [23:29] <gps> oh, wait. no, mozconfig2client-mk defines that variable, you should be good
# [23:30] <gps> also, the command I gave you is wrong. try |build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk /absolute/path/to/topsrcdir|
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# [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2fa7360a9e3 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 708812 - Add telemetry probes for Android startup. r=blassey
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# [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ece3e81be2b6 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 708812 - Telemetry probes for GeckoApp startup. r=blassey
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# [23:43] <glandium> nthomas: pong
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# [23:44] <WeirdAl> ok, trying mach build again
# [23:44] <WeirdAl> no dice
# [23:45] <nthomas> glandium: hi, I wanted to check my patches in bug 772563 matched your expectations of runtime requirements
# [23:45] <gps> WeirdAl: to be clear, |make -f client.mk| (or |build/pymake/make.py -f client.mk|) works just fine, right?
# [23:46] <WeirdAl> pymake did at least a month ago
# [23:46] <gps> WeirdAl: I would like you to isolate this to mach
# [23:46] <WeirdAl> MozillaBuild doesn't support make anymore
# [23:46] <gps> fair enough
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# [23:46] <ehsan_> jduell: hi
# [23:46] <WeirdAl> brb
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# [23:47] <glandium> nthomas: lgtm
# [23:47] <nthomas> great, thanks
# [23:47] <glandium> nthomas: (if you're talking about https://bug772563.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=666670 )
# [23:47] <nthomas> yup
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# [23:54] <WorkerThread> how do you compile a source file without rebuilding everything, on Windows? IIRC it involved just building one part of the object folder where you had been working, but I can't remember how
# [23:54] <gcp> make -C foo/bar/baz
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# [23:54] <gcp> substitude with pymake as appropriate
# [23:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/08498350164d - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 788950 - Prevent mRules from dying in DoInsertHTMLWithContext; r=ehsan a=bajaj
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# [23:55] <WorkerThread> thanks
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# [23:59] <jduell> ehsan_: hey, I've been running into compile-time errors with the new std::numeric_limits<uint32_t>::max we added for NECKO_UNKNOWN_APP_ID
# [23:59] <jduell> ehsan_: was wondering if you've seen that before.
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