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1. # Session Start: Tue Oct 02 00:00:00 2012
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <jduell> Windows in particular is barfing when I try MOZ_ASSERT(foo != NECKO_UNKNOWN_APP_ID)
4. # [00:00] <ehsan_> jduell: no I don't believe that I have
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7. # [00:00] <ehsan_> jduell: r=me on a patch which replaces that with UINT32_MAX
8. # [00:00] <ehsan_> which is a macro
9. # [00:01] <jduell> ehsan_: ok, I may do that then for now at least.
10. # [00:01] <ehsan_> (not PR_UINT32_MAX, of course!)
11. # [00:01] <jduell> thanks
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13. # [00:01] <ehsan_> jduell: ^
14. # [00:01] <WeirdAl> gps: pymake still works
15. # [00:01] <jduell> ehsan_: what, no more PR types?
16. # [00:01] <jduell> nobody told me
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18. # [00:02] <ehsan_> jduell: good thing I didn't take that seriously ;)
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23. # [00:05] <gps> WeirdAl: what command do you run with pymake?
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25. # [00:06] <froydnj> ehsan_: totally missed bug 795507!
26. # [00:06] <WeirdAl> vincenta@AJVINCENT-PC /c/ff-trunk/fx-opt
27. # [00:06] <WeirdAl> $ python -O /c/ff-trunk/mozilla/build/pymake/make.py -f /c/ff-trunk/mozilla/client.mk
28. # [00:06] <WeirdAl> usually I run client.mk configure, but you instructed me for this test not to
29. # [00:06] <gps> WeirdAl: what is pwd?
30. # [00:06] <WeirdAl> /c/ff-trunk/fx-opt
31. # [00:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f581386f53d - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=768838; fix intermittent test_bug549262 failure; r=ehsan
32. # [00:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02e75979ee3b - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=792845; kill WARNING: GetScaneCodeWithExtendedFlat() returns without extended flag; r=masayuki
33. # [00:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bc2919782a7 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=796156; fix test_bug574663 to drive scrolling directly; r=ehsan
34. # [00:07] <gps> WeirdAl: ok. this is probably bug 796141
35. # [00:07] <WeirdAl> that's per pymake instructions
36. # [00:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a62f61bf19a0 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=793233; mark reftest bidi/779003-1.html and 712600 as random; r=smontagu
37. # [00:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b1528740981 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=683143,792462; Some tests call SimpleTest.finish() twice/guard against that; r=ehsan
38. # [00:07] <WeirdAl> but
39. # [00:07] <gps> your mozconfig is probably relying on PWD being something specific
40. # [00:08] <gps> currently mach/mozbuild invokes mozconfig processes with CWD=topsrcdir
41. # [00:08] <WeirdAl> I don't think so... mozconfig coming by pastebin
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45. # [00:08] <WeirdAl> and I was trying to run mach from the srcdir, not the objdir - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853861
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49. # [00:09] <gps> WeirdAl: that doesn't seem too bad
50. # [00:09] <WeirdAl> pymake we're supposed to use the objdir. mach clearly states to run it in the srcdir
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53. # [00:10] <gps> WeirdAl: there is no pymake requirement AFAIK
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55. # [00:10] <gps> you can run pymake from topsrcdir. I run pymake from topsrcdir
56. # [00:10] <WeirdAl> gps: mozilla stopped supporting gnu make on Windows months ago
57. # [00:10] <gps> I know GNU make is not supported
58. # [00:10] <WeirdAl> oh, you meant where we run pymake
59. # [00:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f856ef0f078 - Bas Schouten - Bug 778367 - Part 1: Minimize intermediate surface size. r=jrmuizel
60. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/024f0c7ca3fc - Bas Schouten - Bug 778367 - Part 2: Mark a test fuzzy where DWrite seems to render differently to a smaller surface. r=jrmuizel
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62. # [00:11] <WeirdAl> wait - 796141 is referring to MozillaBuild?
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64. # [00:12] <Callek> WeirdAl, gps: huh we stopped supporting gnu make on windows?
65. # [00:12] <gps> WeirdAl: bug 796141 only iumpacts mach currently
66. # [00:12] <Callek> I *know* gnu make is still needed for NSS
67. # [00:12] <Callek> and i was pretty sure we still supported it on windows, just no longer as a tier_1
68. # [00:12] <WeirdAl> Callek - that seems to be an exception to the rule ;)
69. # [00:13] <gps> Callek: I'm not sure of the details. we are moving to pymake on Windows and GNU make will no longer be tier 1
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71. # [00:13] <gps> NSS is being moved to pymake. I saw movement on that bug in the last week
72. # [00:13] <@dolske> ohhh!
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74. # [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/23a26ecfa0ca - John Schoenick - Bug 794034 - Fennec: Don't act on tel: uris with * or # present. r=bz a=akeybl
75. # [00:15] <gps> bug 486141 for those playing at home
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78. # [00:15] <WeirdAl> gps - so my mozconfig doesn't have any references to cwd that I know of... I was just following the pymake instructions as I knew them telling me to run pymake from an objdir
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80. # [00:15] <WeirdAl> mach != pymake :)
81. # [00:15] <WeirdAl> so I tried running mach from srcdir
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84. # [00:17] <gps> WeirdAl: ./build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk /c/ff-trunk/mozilla
85. # [00:17] <gps> from the srcdir
86. # [00:17] <gps> does that work?
87. # [00:18] <gps> |echo $?|
88. # [00:18] <WeirdAl> echo $? returns 0
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94. # [00:20] <WeirdAl> do you want me to try ./mach build again?
95. # [00:20] <gps> WeirdAl: I'm trying to figure out why mach's invocation of your mozconfig is failing but client.mk's isn't
96. # [00:20] <WeirdAl> (I only build as a hobby... I figured I'd try mach out and see what happens
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99. # [00:21] <ehsan_> froydnj: np!
100. # [00:22] <jhammel> WeirdAl: interesting hobby...i just collect geodes
101. # [00:22] <WeirdAl> :p
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103. # [00:22] <WeirdAl> well, call it force of habit... over ten years working with Mozilla code, getting paid to keep our stuff working and improving on Mozilla...
104. # [00:23] <WeirdAl> and mach sounded cool... but apparently all I get so far are sonic booms ;)
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109. # [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5065be124c8d - Robert Strong - Bug 796054 - Display of free space on disk is calculated incorrectly for the stub installer. r=bbondy
110. # [00:24] <sicking> bsmith: ping
111. # [00:24] <gps> WeirdAl: I want to get to the root cause
112. # [00:24] <WeirdAl> that's why I'm here, gps, to offer info that might help
113. # [00:24] <gps> if you can run |./build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk /c/ff-trunk/mozilla| without errors than mach should work
114. # [00:24] <gps> actuall, try running mozconfig2client-mk from a different directory
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116. # [00:25] <gps> well, mach would definitely fail with that because of the aforementioned bug
117. # [00:25] <bsmith> sicking: pong
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123. # [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db9dc0e94815 - Mario Alvarado [:marioalv] - Bug 783288 - Add 'conformant' to the spellchecker en-US dictionary; r=ehsan
124. # [00:30] <WeirdAl> gps - the question I have is, can you reproduce this without me around?
125. # [00:31] <gps> WeirdAl: sadly, no :(
126. # [00:31] <gps> I'm able to run mach on Windows just fine
127. # [00:31] <gps> except on mintty
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129. # [00:31] <gps> but if you were using mintty you'd be getting a different error :)
130. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7520d2746f3f - David Keeler - Bug 793273 - Disable click-to-play blocklisting in FF16. r=Unfocused,a=akeybl
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133. # [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67f974b861f5 - Anant Narayanan - Bug 794668 - Add fake media stream functionality to getUserMedia; r=jesup
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136. # [00:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab46c9bd4e0b - Anant Narayanan - Bug 794668 - Fix error in patch to add fake media stream; r=me
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146. # [00:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/973cdd9fd5a3 - bobbyholley+bmo@gmail.com - Bug 793370 - crash in nsWebShellWindow::Initialize, r=smaug+bz, a=akeybl
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149. # [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/773303abaae9 - David Anderson - Disable TypeInference on ARMv6 builds (bug 793740, r=mjrosenb, a=akeybl).
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151. # [00:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cdce684b523 - Terrence Cole - Bug 793823 - Store an InternalHandle in BindingIter; r=billm
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153. # [00:52] <Yoric> dougt: Are there any plans to make TextEncoder available to chrome code?
154. # [00:52] <jcranmer> Yoric: apparently
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156. # [00:52] <Yoric> jcranmer: You got my attention.
157. # [00:52] <jcranmer> Yoric: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795544
158. # [00:53] <Yoric> Thanks
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160. # [00:54] <jcranmer> [some Gaia people want it _a lot_
161. # [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2c611cc8df4 - Terrence Cole - Bug 793823 - Don't create a second InternalBindingsHandle; r=billm
162. # [00:54] <philor> huh, I started filtering mail from tbplbot to a folder and marking it read, and now it's like intermittent test failures have zero cost!
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165. # [00:55] <jhammel> philor: now you know how developers feel ;)
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167. # [00:57] <philor> yeah: incorrectly.
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170. # [01:00] <whimboo> smaug, mccr8: memory is increasing also in a fresh profile
171. # [01:00] <jhammel> philor++
172. # [01:00] <whimboo> but not that fast enough
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174. # [01:01] <@smaug> whimboo: create the logs now
175. # [01:01] <@smaug> no need to wait for too long
176. # [01:01] <whimboo> k
177. # [01:02] <Waldo> hmm, mach requires a newer python than I have on my Windows box :-\
178. # [01:02] * Waldo ponders upgrading mozbuild
179. # [01:02] <@smaug> whimboo: but looks like it would be better to get logs with a build which has a patch from mccr8
180. # [01:02] <Waldo> what could possibly go wrong
181. # [01:02] <@smaug> so that we could know whether it is about weakmaps
182. # [01:03] <@smaug> whimboo: but, we could look at the new logs even before that
183. # [01:03] <whimboo> smaug: ok, is his patch in current nightly builds?
184. # [01:03] <@smaug> since if the behavior is different, perhaps cc log has different kind of stuff in it
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186. # [01:03] <@smaug> no, he just mentioned about some patch
187. # [01:03] <@smaug> mccr8: ^
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189. # [01:04] <@smaug> whimboo: oh, hey, try without memchaser
190. # [01:04] <@smaug> it is using addon sdk, right?
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193. # [01:05] <@smaug> whimboo: it would be better to get logs without anything extra
194. # [01:05] <whimboo> smaug: yes it is
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196. # [01:05] <mccr8> whimboo smaug: I don't have any pushes handy with the logging.
197. # [01:05] <@smaug> (and sdk tends to be quite heavy, and there was some sdk stuff in the log)
198. # [01:05] <whimboo> smaug: but would you mind to check the logs in anyway? already uploading those
199. # [01:05] <@smaug> whimboo: I can look at those
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201. # [01:06] <@smaug> mccr8: could you perhaps push the patch to try?
202. # [01:06] <rstrong> When you have some time this week (right? ;) ) I'd like to have a brief conversation about Stephen Pohl
203. # [01:06] <rstrong> meh... wrong channel
204. # [01:06] <whimboo> smaug: in 15 minutes it increased from 170MB to 390MB now
205. # [01:06] <whimboo> smaug: will now try without memchaser
206. # [01:06] <mccr8> sure. whimboo, you are on windows, right? I'll do that today or tomorrow...
207. # [01:06] <whimboo> mccr8: no, osx
208. # [01:07] <mccr8> oh okay.
209. # [01:07] <@smaug> well, it is expected to use more memory, because the web app obviously leaks (well, leaks also in other browsers)
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212. # [01:07] <@smaug> ah, mccr8 commented also about memchaser
213. # [01:07] <whimboo> smaug: sure. but i mentioned it becuase you all were not able to reproduce
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217. # [01:10] <mccr8> no that was bill. ;)
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220. # [01:11] <@smaug> yeah, I didn't even try to reproduce :)
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232. # [01:16] <whimboo> smaug: without memchaser it looks way better
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234. # [01:16] <whimboo> still at ~114MB for the last 5 minutes
235. # [01:16] <@smaug> whimboo: I wonder if it is memchaser's logging
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237. # [01:16] <@smaug> which is a feature I never use
238. # [01:16] <@smaug> but I have memchaser running all the time
239. # [01:16] <whimboo> smaug: logging is disabled by default
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241. # [01:17] <@smaug> whimboo: but you were logging
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243. # [01:17] <whimboo> an di haven't had it enabled
244. # [01:17] <@smaug> ah
245. # [01:17] <@smaug> then quite odd
246. # [01:17] <whimboo> not for the last test with the fresh profile
247. # [01:17] <@smaug> whimboo: hmm, does the test open lots of new windows?
248. # [01:17] <whimboo> no. it's just a normal web page
249. # [01:18] <whimboo> i still leave untouched for a while
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251. # [01:18] <@smaug> just create the logs now
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253. # [01:18] <@smaug> it is easier to analyze not-so-huge logs
254. # [01:18] <Jesse> dzbarsky: you might not have to back out, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796188
255. # [01:18] <dzbarsky> Jesse: I saw, thanks :)
256. # [01:19] <whimboo> smaug: just a sec
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264. # [01:22] <@smaug> romaxa_mswork: ms ?
265. # [01:22] <romaxa_mswork> smaug: m$
266. # [01:22] <whimboo> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751557#c25
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268. # [01:22] <@smaug> romaxa_mswork: really, m$ ?
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272. # [01:23] <romaxa_mswork> smaug: yep... today is first start day
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276. # [01:23] <@smaug> romaxa_mswork: did you join the IE team ?
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278. # [01:23] <romaxa_mswork> smaug: of course no :), online services...
279. # [01:24] <romaxa_mswork> smaug: if I would join to IE team I would not be able hack mozilla anymore...
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281. # [01:25] <@smaug> :)
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283. # [01:25] <@smaug> romaxa_mswork: you know, you could join Mozilla ;)
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285. # [01:27] <@smaug> whimboo: ok, much saner looking log
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288. # [01:27] <Jesse> dzbarsky: you lucked out. i added key events to the dom fuzzer for a totally unrelated reason :)
289. # [01:28] <whimboo> smaug: something obvious in there?
290. # [01:28] <whimboo> smaug: would be good to know which are the differences between plain and memchaser
291. # [01:28] <@smaug> whimboo: some <li> elements keep stuff alive
292. # [01:28] <jhammel> itym a<li>ve ;)
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299. # [01:32] <@smaug> whimboo: so, there is one large cycle which is kept alive by 10 <li> element and <span class='sortarrow'>
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302. # [01:34] <@smaug> whimboo: basically, there is the normal overhead (2000-3000 objects in the graph), and then there is this 18000 objects thing
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304. # [01:36] <whimboo> smaug: this looks like /scripts/sortable.js
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306. # [01:36] <whimboo> http://www.kryogenix.org/code/browser/sorttable/
307. # [01:37] <whimboo> i would have to find the current repo
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311. # [01:39] <fryn> i want to edit this page in the documentation: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Template:AnimationEventProperties
312. # [01:39] <fryn> how do i do that?
313. # [01:40] <whimboo> smaug: that is the code http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853959
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315. # [01:40] <@smaug> whimboo: there is some yui-ac-bd stuff here
316. # [01:41] <@smaug> whimboo: the document is http://10.250.73.243:8080/?auto_refresh=true
317. # [01:41] <whimboo> yui-ac-bd?
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319. # [01:42] <@smaug> there is <div class='yui-ac-bd'> ancestor for those <li> elements
320. # [01:43] <whimboo> hm, can't find it with the inspector and debugger
321. # [01:43] <@smaug> I expect those elements to not be in document
322. # [01:45] <@smaug> whimboo: I think someone with a debug build and access to the test needs to debug this
323. # [01:45] <@smaug> if this is runtime leak only, finding what is keeping the stuff alive should be easy
324. # [01:46] <whimboo> smaug: with the debugger I found the sidebar with the queued elements and the image now
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328. # [01:48] <@smaug> whimboo: there is one unknown edge to those <li> elements, so one needs to debug what releases those elements when closing the page
329. # [01:49] <@smaug> hint hint mccr8 ;)
330. # [01:49] <whimboo> smaug: interesting is that even i close the tab, leave it closed for a long time, and load the page again in a new tab, firefox immediately freezes
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332. # [01:50] <whimboo> tha'ts with my default profile
333. # [01:50] <@smaug> right
334. # [01:51] <@smaug> I wonder how I could access the test case
335. # [01:51] <whimboo> and that with 74ms iGc
336. # [01:51] <whimboo> smaug: i wonder why you can't connect via vpn
337. # [01:52] <@smaug> because I haven't installed any vpn stuff to this laptop :)
338. # [01:52] <@smaug> and I hate when we hide stuff
339. # [01:52] <@smaug> but I guess I could install vpn
340. # [01:53] <whimboo> we are processing this queue of builds constantly. so in some hours it will be harder to reproduce
341. # [01:53] <whimboo> smaug: otherwise I would suggest you setup mozmill-ci locally
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344. # [01:53] <whimboo> that's doable in a couple of minutes
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349. # [01:55] <@smaug> whimboo: ok, I'll try that tomorrow
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351. # [01:56] <whimboo> smaug: i cna help for sure
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354. # [01:56] <whimboo> smaug: https://github.com/whimboo/mozmill-ci/blob/master/README.md
355. # [01:56] <whimboo> not that hard to do
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357. # [01:57] <whimboo> smaug: thanks so far. have to head to bed now
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360. # [01:59] <mccr8> smaug: unfortunately I have another higher priority leak I am looking into right now. :)
361. # [01:59] <@smaug> yup
362. # [01:59] <@smaug> mccr8: I'll look at this one tomorrow
363. # [02:00] <mccr8> great!
364. # [02:00] <@smaug> mccr8: just curious, which leak are you looking at ?
365. # [02:00] <mccr8> smaug: an XP only leak with the patches in bug 792215
366. # [02:00] <@smaug> oh, that one
367. # [02:01] <@smaug> good luck, you'll need it
368. # [02:01] <mccr8> thanks...
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373. # [02:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8a8a932fbef4 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 782524 - window.navigator instanceof window.Window throws unexpected error [r=bz,a=akeybl]
374. # [02:07] <sicking> fabrice: ping
375. # [02:07] <fabrice> sicking: pong
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377. # [02:08] <sicking> fabrice: What happens to day if the user goes to store A and install hosted app X, and then goes to store B which also attempts to install app X? I.e. both try to install an app with the same manifest URL?
378. # [02:08] <sicking> edgecases, edgecases everywhere!
379. # [02:08] <fabrice> the second install is considered as a reinstall, based on the origin of the app
380. # [02:09] <sicking> fabrice: so we'll change the "installOrigin" to be store B?
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382. # [02:09] <fabrice> yep
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384. # [02:09] <sicking> fabrice: which means that if store A calls getInstalled() it won't see the app?
385. # [02:09] <fabrice> indeed
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388. # [02:09] <sicking> interesting.. probably a good choice
389. # [02:09] <fabrice> also, the user will lose the receipt from store A if he had paid
390. # [02:10] <sicking> true
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392. # [02:10] <fabrice> (unless he can get it back from the store itself)
393. # [02:10] <sicking> fabrice: if the app has an appcache, do we re-download that appcache on reinstall?
394. # [02:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f625a0dc1052 - Sean Stangl - Bug 794679 - Cache for GetPcScript(). r=pierron
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396. # [02:10] <fabrice> sicking: yes.. this may not be very smart
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398. # [02:11] <sicking> fabrice: i don't think it's a huge deal. But yeah, we should probably file a bug at least
399. # [02:11] <sicking> fabrice: do we retain the same appid?
400. # [02:11] <fabrice> yes
401. # [02:11] <fabrice> since it is bound to the manifest url
402. # [02:12] <sicking> so we basically just tell the appcache code to update the appcache?
403. # [02:12] <fabrice> yes
404. # [02:12] <sicking> then most likely we won't even redownload actually, just check for updates
405. # [02:12] <sicking> which isn't a bad idea
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410. # [02:17] <markh> does the roughly 1-million occurrences of "### ERROR: SymGetModuleInfo64: The specified module could not be found." in windows debug builds offer value to anyone, or does it just drive people like me nuts? :)
411. # [02:17] <markh> (ok, not a million...)
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413. # [02:19] <philor> Bas: you might have Windows reftest bustage
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418. # [02:21] <philor> markh: buildbot may have been expressing a certain dissatisfaction with it in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15707176&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, depending on just how many there really are
419. # [02:22] <markh> philor: they just continue to stream for me when FF is idle - so keeping it open long enough will hit a million eventually!
420. # [02:22] <markh> I'm gunna file a bug!
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423. # [02:26] <markh> oh dear, my brain is out of stack space, I'll come back to that...
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436. # [02:35] <philor> well, a nice backout will cheer me up
437. # [02:39] <philor> also? I keep hearing about MozCamps, and assuming it must be like relocation camps, getting some of you bastards out of North American timezones, so what's the problem? fences aren't high enough, too many escapees?
438. # [02:41] <dholbert> philor, I presume you saw https://twitter.com/joedrew/status/252780243104964608 ?
439. # [02:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/377cda004bd7 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 024f0c7ca3fc and 9f856ef0f078 (bug 778367) for Windows reftest failures
440. # [02:42] <philor> dholbert: I rarely see things that aren't in tbpl or randomorange bugs
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446. # [02:44] <dholbert> philor, fair enough
447. # [02:45] <philor> heh, that was nice, though
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450. # [02:46] <bkero> Hi guys. I'm having a problem of where I have a HUGE firefox profile (900mb). I assume most of it is cache, but Firefox's cache settings menu says that I'm only using 40mb of cache.
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458. # [02:52] <philor> bkero: cache isn't even in the profile, is it? but about:cache will tell you both how much it's using (which for some reason is allowed to be more than it's allowed) and where it is
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461. # [02:53] <bkero> philor: $HOME/.mozilla/$PROFILE/Cache
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466. # [02:54] <ehoogeveen> Thumbnails, maybe? I know that infinite growth was stopped and the excess was supposed to have been removed, but..
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468. # [02:54] <bkero> So clearing cache through the interface made my profile shrink down to 176MB from 900
469. # [02:55] <dholbert> bkero, kdirstat / windirstat / disk inventory X could tell you what files & subdirectories are occupying all that space
470. # [02:55] <bkero> Even though it claimed to only have been using 40MB
471. # [02:55] <dholbert> (on linux / windows / OS X )
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474. # [02:56] <bkero> dholbert: last time I tried it claimed Cache was using 800 of that 900MB
475. # [02:56] <dholbert> bkero, I assume you're talking about "Cached Web Content" in Preferences | Advanced | Network?
476. # [02:56] <bkero> yes
477. # [02:57] <bkero> dholbert: du -hsx claimed Cache was using 800MB. "Cached Web Content" claimed 40MB
478. # [02:57] <dholbert> bkero, I'm not sure what that measures, but I'm willing to bet it's not the entirety of the /Cache folder
479. # [02:57] <bkero> dholbert: but it seems to delete almost the entirety of the /Cache folder
480. # [02:57] <dholbert> hmm true. could be a bug then
481. # [02:58] <bkero> here's my profile called "16test". 161M Cache
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483. # [02:59] <bkero> "Your web content cache is currently using 25 MB of disk space"
484. # [02:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b0107836b76 - Patrick McManus - bug 795082 http remove dead or redundant code r=honzab
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487. # [03:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa6148b9c877 - David Chan - Bug 796116 - Fix Webapps:InstallPackage to notify observers [r=fabrice]
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521. # [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/573907d351e3 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795491 - Improve mach's help text; r=jhammel
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524. # [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63b393c1facc - Chris AtLee - Bug 795982: Sign and upload stub installer. r=khuey,rail
525. # [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98d8b5c9bafb - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795477 - Install NullHandler on root logger; r=jhammel
526. # [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/becf552919cb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
527. # [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e8a91dfbc7e - Victor Porof - Bug 790650 - It may be a good idea to have the debugger start with collapsed panels, r=past
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544. # [03:52] <philor> nice, this M4 log only contains 11200 instances of "WARNING: No outer window available!"
545. # [03:52] <KWierso|Home> you're welcome
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551. # [03:56] <philor> alas, that's only 1.4MB of the 50.4, so hello M6
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573. # [04:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d9f6bb75bb0 - Benoit Girard - Bug 796084 - Rename mCheckerboardLayer -> mScreenshotLayer. r=blassey
574. # [04:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b0fd0ddbfec - Benoit Girard - Bug 796084 - Rename MOZ_JAVA_COMPOSITOR -> MOZ_ANDROID_OMTC. r=blassey
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579. # [04:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/932204a65b9c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
580. # [04:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa73f5544e07 - Anthony Jones - Bug 795135 - Fix CairoTempMatrix restore. r=joe
581. # [04:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aab010487a73 - Anthony Jones - Bug 793085 - Remove UseAzureContentDrawing() in favour of SupportsAzureContent(). r=ncameron
582. # [04:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb076a446870 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
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585. # [04:26] <joe> can one push a test-only change to aurora?
586. # [04:26] <philor> yes
587. # [04:26] <philor> yes!
588. # [04:26] <joe> without approval?!
589. # [04:26] <joe> omggg
590. # [04:26] <philor> a=test-only, edmorley unlocked those floodgates a while back
591. # [04:26] * joe dances
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593. # [04:27] <philor> you can also ask for approval and get it quickly and easily, but the "hah, I'm getting away with something!" method is more fun
594. # [04:27] <joe> well
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596. # [04:28] <joe> when release managers explicitly asked for me to get a patch that depends on a test-only patch in
597. # [04:28] <joe> i feel a little less daring
598. # [04:28] <joe> I SUPPOSE i'll try building this code
599. # [04:28] <joe> given that the merge was rather nontrivial
600. # [04:29] <philor> crap, layout just needs to stfu - M4/5 gives me a 42.6MB log, M5/6 which gets layout without DOM gives me a 40.4MB log
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602. # [04:30] <philor> or we need top-level directories like /part-of-layout-style-mochitests/ and /more-of-layout-style-mochitests/
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604. # [04:30] <joe> /spam-me-harder
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607. # [04:35] <philor> I guess we could do a separate m-css
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613. # [04:41] <joe> well it turns out that attempting to build my code was a good idea
614. # [04:41] <joe> who knew
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618. # [04:42] <philor> only... the tree knows! bwahahahahahahaha
619. # [04:42] <joe> argh, bitten by nsCAutoString->nsAutoCString
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621. # [04:42] <joe> well the tree and you
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625. # [04:43] * philor wonders if references to 1930s radio programs might date him
626. # [04:44] <joe> it's possible
627. # [04:44] <joe> have i mentioned that tomorrow is jrmuizel's 28th birthday?
628. # [04:44] <tbsaunde> joe: its my 23 )
629. # [04:44] <joe> tomorrow?
630. # [04:44] <tbsaunde> joe: yes
631. # [04:45] <joe> omg!
632. # [04:45] <joe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem
633. # [04:46] <tbsaunde> yeah, that :)
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635. # [04:47] <jcranmer> did I mention that tomorrow is, coincidentally, NOT my birthday?
636. # [04:47] <JonathanS> I used to have a friend guess which date that I am going to born. Irony, a date she picked out is also her birthday too
637. # [04:49] <joe> that you are.. going to be born?
638. # [04:49] <joe> future tense?
639. # [04:49] <jcranmer> complete grammar failure
640. # [04:49] <jcranmer> "which date that"? "am going to born"?
641. # [04:50] <JonathanS> :/
642. # [04:50] <jcranmer> the closest sentence I can make out of it is "on which date I am going to give birth"
643. # [04:51] <JonathanS> well, my bday is Jan 9
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645. # [04:51] <jdm> oh, that clears the issue up then
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648. # [04:52] <joe> this humour
649. # [04:52] <joe> it is so dry
650. # [04:52] <joe> does anyone have a glass of water
651. # [04:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/167652a31865 - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 788408 - Part 1. fReadPixels should also respect mFlipped. r=mattwoodrow
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654. # [04:53] <jcranmer> no, but I have 400 mL
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667. # [05:07] <naveed> I'm debugging on Windows. Is there anything special I need to do to use jemalloc.c for local builds? Does the default ./mach build make use of it for allocations instead of MS crt's implementation?
668. # [05:08] <@khuey> you need to --enable-jemalloc in your mozconfig
669. # [05:08] <@khuey> I don't know what that translates to in mach
670. # [05:09] <naveed> khuey: thank you. mach still uses mozconfig i believe. I will try that now.
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675. # [05:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/699db88b5ea0 - Brian Smith - Bug 795972: Upgrade NSS to NSS_3_14_BETA1, r=me
676. # [05:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ddd4e4a5f337 - Brian Smith - Bug 767241, Part 1: Create scoped pointer types for NSS types, r=honzab
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694. # [05:30] <jcranmer> Yoric: hmm, it seems that OS.File documentation on MDN hasn't been keeping up-to-date?
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706. # [05:46] <philor> BenWa: I'm suspicious about those xpcshell timeouts in test_content_annotation.js
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708. # [05:47] <BenWa> looking
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710. # [05:47] <philor> sure, we've timed out in it a bit before, but two for two?
711. # [05:47] <philor> well, five for five once tbpl reloaded
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713. # [05:49] <BenWa> Yea, it's likely my patch
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717. # [05:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1ac587a1ccb - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 63105f3adf34 (bug 721843) for xpcshell timeouts
718. # [05:55] <BenWa> philor: I was just about to back it out. Thanks
719. # [05:55] <philor> np
720. # [05:55] * cjones-food is now known as cjones
721. # [05:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba388025ede9 - Doug Turner - Bug 795478 - Remove blizzard fudge from xpcom io code. r=bsmedberg
722. # [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bae96aa5f1ad - Doug Turner - Bug 790503 - On Mac Mini, defaultCalibration reads outside of sensors[]. r=jruderman@gmail.com,blassey
723. # [05:57] <philor> mmm, fudge blizzards
724. # [05:57] <KWierso|Home> is it strange that when I got to the line in The Avengers where Stark says "his name was Phil", I thought of philor?
725. # [05:58] <KWierso|Home> impaled through the back by the trickster god of intermittent oranges?
726. # [06:00] <philor> mmm, impaling
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729. # [06:00] <cjones> dougt, that is one of the more disgusting commit messages i've read
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734. # [06:03] <philor> I'm more shocked by the way his try push had 8 failures, zero of them Android
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741. # [06:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b0fc903a0749 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795722 - Clear our cached ImageContainer when the imgFrame changes. r=joe
742. # [06:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/396630ce4035 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 770144 - Use FuzzyEqual to compare layer scale values. r=roc
743. # [06:12] <dougt> cjones: going to use that on my self-review.
744. # [06:14] <philor> joe: so, after you built aurora, you ran tests, right?
745. # [06:14] <dougt> philor: thanks for the stars
746. # [06:14] <philor> np
747. # [06:16] * philor goes ahead and updates an aurora tree, just in case
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749. # [06:16] <dougt> mrbkap: ping?
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751. # [06:17] <njn> anyone know if it's possible to use PGP with Gmail? AFAICT it's not
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753. # [06:18] <@khuey> njn: is this for secure bugmail
754. # [06:18] <@khuey> ?
755. # [06:18] <njn> khuey: exactly
756. # [06:18] <sfink|flu> use s/mime, not php
757. # [06:18] <sfink|flu> er, pgp
758. # [06:18] <@khuey> bent wrote an extension for doing s/mime
759. # [06:18] <@khuey> in gmail
760. # [06:19] <njn> khuey: I realized I was missing s-s bugs that I should have been seeing :/
761. # [06:19] <njn> sfink|flu, khuey: where to find this extension?
762. # [06:19] <sfink|flu> I don't know; I use s/mime with tbird :)
763. # [06:20] <@khuey> njn: let me look
764. # [06:20] <njn> khuey: google's not helpin me
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766. # [06:20] <njn> *helpin'
767. # [06:20] <KWierso|Home> njn: https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/firefox/addon/gmail-smime/ ?
768. # [06:20] <@khuey> doesn't work
769. # [06:20] <KWierso|Home> I got nothin'
770. # [06:21] <@khuey> njn: https://github.com/benturner/bzsecuremail/blob/master/bzsecuremail.xpi
771. # [06:21] <njn> KWierso|Home: but it's very relevant!
772. # [06:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2575a2f89d22 - Justin Lebar - Bug 790417 - ContentParent::GetAll should include the pre-allocated process. r=cjones
773. # [06:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04af81445c05 - Justin Lebar - Bug 788021 - Part 2: Add and implement nsIMemoryReporter::DumpMemoryReportsToFile. r=njn,cjones
774. # [06:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15cc0aabab67 - Justin Lebar - Bug 788021 - Part 1: Add nsGZFileWriter. r=bsmedberg
775. # [06:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17b5b5dcd308 - Justin Lebar - Bug 788021 - Part 3: Use nsMemoryReporterManager::MinimizeMemoryUsage in aboutMemory.js. r=njn
776. # [06:22] <cjones> \o/
777. # [06:22] <njn> khuey: cool. NOw I just need to work out how to get/configure an S/MIME cert
778. # [06:22] <sfink|flu> khuey: btw, technically I'm not a JS peer. Not that it usually matters in spidermonkeyland. (And I didn't want to muddy up a mentored bug by mentioning it.)
779. # [06:22] <KWierso|Home> njn: that sounds easier to google :)
780. # [06:23] <@khuey> sfink|flu: noted
781. # [06:23] <njn> KWierso|Home: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Getting_an_SMIME_certificate
782. # [06:23] <@khuey> njn: having to deal with this is totally obnoxious
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784. # [06:23] <@khuey> but the response was pretty much "if you use webmail, it sucks to be you"
785. # [06:24] <njn> khuey: yeah... I'm tempted just to click through to the relevant bug when I get a mail for an s-s bug; it's not that often
786. # [06:24] <sfink|flu> I generally notice s-s bugs last, these days
787. # [06:24] * KWierso|Home is just glad he doesn't really deal with s-s bugs :)
788. # [06:25] <sfink|flu> I'd like to be like that, but I'm too good at introducing them
789. # [06:25] <@khuey> heh
790. # [06:26] <philor> I just wish I could remember whether I'm potentially at fault for one, or just backed it out once, without clicking through
791. # [06:26] <@khuey> sfink|flu: I wish I had data on the amount of attention security bugs get before/after this change
792. # [06:26] <KWierso|Home> so... a philor-sensitive flag?
793. # [06:26] <@khuey> jlebar|away: \o/
794. # [06:26] <sfink|flu> khuey: time to first non-filer comment?
795. # [06:26] <@khuey> yeah, perhaps
796. # [06:27] * njn updates his filters so "Secure bug" mails to to his high-priority bugmail folder
797. # [06:27] <sfink|flu> if you're watching a component, that'll collect lots of secure bugs that you don't care about
798. # [06:27] * KWierso|Home is also glad that the volume of his bugmail is low enough to not require sorting :)
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801. # [06:29] <njn> sfink|flu: I think you might only see the ones you're CC'd on
802. # [06:29] <sfink|flu> I have a hairball of a filtering system where gmail filters them into a secure bug folder, then thunderbird pulls out the ones relevant to me based on the bugzilla headers and puts them in a "My secure bugs" folder
803. # [06:29] <njn> sfink|flu: I'm *shocked* you would have a hairball of a filtering system
804. # [06:29] <njn> :P
805. # [06:29] <sfink|flu> heh
806. # [06:29] <sfink|flu> once in a while, it even works
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808. # [06:30] * KWierso|Home only has a "this is from bmo, it goes to bugmail" filter, with a subfilter of "this is something that's about jetpack, move it to the side" that only seems to work about a third of the time
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810. # [06:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17f942846b9f - David Zbarsky - Bug 795811 - Make GetPrimaryScrollableLayer() return null on all configurations except MOZ_WIDGET_ANDROID r=cjones
811. # [06:31] <sfink|flu> njn: I definitely get more secure bugs than just the cc'd ones. I have a mailbox with over 1000 in it. Looking at one at random -- X-Bugzilla-Reason: None
812. # [06:31] <njn> KWierso|Home: I really wish gmail filters were ordered
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814. # [06:32] <philor> X-Bugzilla-Reason: Just thinking of you
815. # [06:32] <njn> sfink|flu: I appear to only have ~20 in my entire gmail
816. # [06:32] <sfink|flu> I must have unfortunate bugmail settings, then. Do you watch any components?
817. # [06:32] <@khuey> about:memory doesn't count :-P
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819. # [06:35] <njn> khuey: how about "JavaScript Engine"? :P
820. # [06:35] <sfink|flu> nope, never any s-s bugs there
821. # [06:35] <njn> sfink|flu: maybe I'll be flooded, and revert this filter change
822. # [06:35] * njn shrugs
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824. # [06:36] <@khuey> do you not watch the JS engine?
825. # [06:36] <@khuey> if you watched it I think you would see tons of s-s bugs
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827. # [06:37] <sfink|flu> my browser seems to be too bogged down to turn on the profiler :(
828. # [06:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c656027f5c2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 795768 (part 1) - Remove lots of dead JSContext* occurrences.
829. # [06:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c92d00f777de - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 795768 (part 2) - De-macroize js_GetSrcNote().
830. # [06:38] <sfink|flu> js_GetSrcNote was funny. "We can rewrite the entire JSAPI under you, but we'd better hide this parameter with a macro." Short-term fixes and all that...
831. # [06:41] <njn> sfink|flu: yeah, except there were like 20 uses, almost all in jsopcode.cpp
832. # [06:41] <njn> someone picked the wrong trade-off there, IMO
833. # [06:42] <njn> khuey: my working theory is that I would only receive mail about the s-s bugs I"m CC'd to; that seems consistent with what I've seen thus far, though I wasn't paying close attention
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835. # [06:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42a7cb309ca1 - Jared Wein - Bug 602006 - Remove Error Console item. r=dao
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837. # [06:47] <philor> well, someone needs to fix that by adding njn to the sg, so he can get smothered instead!
838. # [06:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac5c29ec176b - Makoto Kato - Bug 795224 - no more backspace nor arrows on the deck Asus Transformer. r=cpeterson
839. # [06:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/064bf6c9fe16 - Jason Duell - Bug 796164 - Change NECKO_UNKNOWN_APP_ID to UINT32_MAX. r=ehsan
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843. # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f3d9233b236 - Phil Ringnalda - merge m-c to m-i
844. # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a032bf27fa05 - Brian Smith - Bug 795987: Upgrade NSPR to NSPR_4_9_3_BETA1, r=me
845. # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddd4e4a5f337 - Brian Smith - Bug 767241, Part 1: Create scoped pointer types for NSS types, r=honzab
846. # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0fc903a0749 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795722 - Clear our cached ImageContainer when the imgFrame changes. r=joe
847. # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/396630ce4035 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 770144 - Use FuzzyEqual to compare layer scale values. r=roc
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861. # [07:17] <bsmith> Who can explain when to use TemporaryRef vs RefPtr?
862. # [07:18] <bsmith> i.e. which is best: RefPtr<T> foo(); TemporaryRef<T> foo(); something else?
863. # [07:18] <bsmith> and, which is best?: void foo(RefPtr<T> p); void foo(TemporaryPtr<T> p); something else?
864. # [07:19] <brendan> bsmith: what does MDN say?
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866. # [07:21] <jaws> jst: ping?
867. # [07:23] <jaws> jst: there's a student project to port fennec's reader mode to desktop firefox. fennec implemented this http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/chrome/content/JSDOMParser.js for reader mode? would copying this over to desktop be acceptable?
868. # [07:23] <bsmith> brendan: nothing, about TemporaryRef or RefPtr, that I can find
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870. # [07:24] <brendan> github.com/mozilla/sweet.js
871. # [07:24] <bsmith> I am used to already_AddRefed<T> foo(); and foo(T*) but I've heard rumors that this is not in vogue any more.
872. # [07:24] <brendan> er
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874. # [07:25] <brendan> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/nsRefPtr
875. # [07:26] <brendan> bsmith: comments in mfbt/RefPtr.h seem your best bet
876. # [07:26] <brendan> also seem clear enough
877. # [07:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97362b531a38 - Gene Lian - Bug 795209 - System Message API: Fail to fire 'icc-stkcommand' system messages. r=fabrice
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916. # [07:56] <markh> if browser.xul has a tag <myfoo something="whatever">, and myfoo is an XBL binding, is there anything I can do to delay the binding of the XBL to the element? eg, I've tried adding hidden="true" and style="display: none", but the binding still happens quite early...
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930. # [08:08] <Bas> philor: Thanks for backout, and sorry :s
931. # [08:08] <philor> Bas: no worries, it happens, rather like it's happening to jlebar
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935. # [08:09] <Bas> philor: As you concluded the world must've changed from under me :s I'll make sure I'll try as recent as possible this time! :)
936. # [08:11] * jlebar|away is now known as jlebar
937. # [08:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80f9522602c5 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 17b5b5dcd308, 04af81445c05, 15cc0aabab67 (bug 788021) and 2575a2f89d22 (bug 790417) for Linux crashes
938. # [08:13] <philor> oops, I should have looked at the debug log, it would have told me which was crashing
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944. # [08:19] <glob> njn, top, or stop?
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946. # [08:20] <njn> glob: *stop
947. # [08:20] <njn> heh
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952. # [08:23] <nigelb> njn: maybe you should stop making typos :P
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960. # [08:37] <glazou> bonjour
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1032. # [09:33] <KWierso|Home> bonjour already? :(
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1057. # [09:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13140a27ff09 - Jared Wein - Bug 790112 - Fix social toolbar button styling so that separate "sub-buttons" are visually distinct, patch by :mixedpuppy, :jaws and :markh. r=felipe
1058. # [09:57] <markh> jaws is sharing the love :)
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1070. # [10:02] <glazou> KWierso|Home: well, it's almost 10am here
1071. # [10:02] <KWierso|Home> glazou: yeah, but that means it's already almost 1am here :P
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1076. # [10:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b58a62ebfd9 - Mark Hammond - Bug 795518 - window.close() in social windows should close social panel. r=jaws
1077. # [10:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2f2fc4efee89 - Victor Porof - Bug 794887 - Some entities in debugger.dtd are unused, r=past
1078. # [10:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0f91d1acd09b - Heather Arthur - Bug 789364 - Light theme for markup panel, orion, and rule view, r=paul
1079. # [10:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85dd8e346102 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
1080. # [10:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a2214e8900c0 - Victor Porof - Bug 782877 - Intermittent browser_dbg_bfcache.js | uncaught JS exception - TypeError: element is undefined at debugger-controller.js:1275, r=rcampbell
1081. # [10:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0c8442db91fe - Victor Porof - Bug 790553 - Increase the timeout when connecting to Firefox for Android from the Remote Debugger, r=past
1082. # [10:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/59783c7c3040 - Victor Porof - Bug 795009 - REMOTE_PROFILE_NAME should actually be chrome, r=past
1083. # [10:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd72779323e1 - Julian Muenster - Bug 791163 - Add addon-options-displayed/addon-options-hidden as constants on AddonManager. r=Unfocused
1084. # [10:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1ef6d7852465 - Jan Skrasek - Bug 785903 - Markup panel selection should scroll to the center when highlighting, r=dcamp
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1094. # [10:18] <jaws> Ms2ger: i pushed it to try before landing this time :)
1095. # [10:18] <Ms2ger> jaws++
1096. # [10:18] <firebot> Check-in:
1097. # [10:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c2462765e83 - David Bienvenu - Bug 679626 crash in nsIDOMWindowInternal::GetDocShell with signature pointing to nsASDOMWindowEnumerator::GetNext - try to avoid windows with no docshells. r=bz
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1125. # [10:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac380af56c49 - Chris Jones - Back out 17f942846b9f (bug 795811) for causing startup crashes.
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1130. # [10:47] <KWierso|Home> ooh, we're like 2-3 days away from hitting bug 800000...
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1132. # [10:48] <glob> KWierso|Home, i hope it's slightly longer. people: stop filing bugs
1133. # [10:48] <KWierso|Home> you still hoping to take up the offer in bug 700000?
1134. # [10:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2520fd9f3883 - Marty Rosenberg - Add narrowing into range analysis, greatly speeding up some testcases (bug 765119, jandem)
1135. # [10:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7895a56d434d - Marty Rosenberg - Teach RangeAnalysis how to deal with unreachable blocks (bug 765119, r=dvander)
1136. # [10:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bca9d7ef2727 - Marty Rosenberg - Add a bunch of features to range analysis to make it optimize more. (bug 765119, r=jandem)
1137. # [10:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbc7e1bc48d0 - Marty Rosenberg - Fix a bunch of bugs that the fuzzers found (bug 765119, r=dvander)
1138. # [10:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba4e134b13fd - Marty Rosenberg - Beta nodes sholud be able to have infinite ranges, fixes very slow testcase (bug 765119, r=dvander)
1139. # [10:49] <glob> KWierso|Home, haha :)
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1141. # [10:50] <@dolske> -.-
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1143. # [10:50] <KWierso|Home> I am going to stab this fly in the face with a rock if it lands on my monitor or myself one more time...
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1145. # [10:52] <KWierso|Home> after shooing it away from said monitor and self, so as not to give my laptop or myself another concussion
1146. # [10:52] <KWierso|Home> of course
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1151. # [10:55] <Ms2ger> dolske, well...
1152. # [10:55] <Ms2ger> dolske, you said "bug 8000000", not "bug 800000"
1153. # [10:55] <Ms2ger> So we've got some time still
1154. # [10:55] <KWierso|Home> Ms2ger++
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1158. # [10:59] <KWierso|Home> unfortunately for that fly, I have no qualms about bugging my neighbors upstairs by hitting the ceiling with a flyswatter at two oclock in the morning... :)
1159. # [11:01] * edmorley pokes Ms2ger
1160. # [11:01] <Ms2ger> Dammit.
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1162. # [11:02] <Ms2ger> This all passed try just now...
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1164. # [11:02] <KWierso|Home> aliens
1165. # [11:02] <Ms2ger> nsAttrValueInlines.h?
1166. # [11:02] <Ms2ger> khuey--
1167. # [11:02] <edmorley> Ms2ger: m-c is quiet, up to you how you deal with it, fwiw
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1169. # [11:03] <Ms2ger> Someone added new PtrBits uses, apparently
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1171. # [11:03] <Ms2ger> MXR down?
1172. # [11:03] <KWierso|Home> works for me
1173. # [11:04] <KWierso|Home> or at least, the landing pages parts of it
1174. # [11:04] <KWierso|Home> and a search
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1176. # [11:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: might there also be more on inbound?
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1178. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> I doubt it
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1195. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> edmorley, sorry about that
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1197. # [11:12] <edmorley> np
1198. # [11:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c9a8f55d8541 - Ms2ger - Bug 793314 - Followup: Remove PtrBits from nsAttrValueInlines.h.
1199. # [11:13] <edmorley> Ms2ger: changes between the try run and pushing are kind of unavoidable
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1202. # [11:14] <Ms2ger> edmorley, unless I make m-c my tryserver! ;)
1203. # [11:14] <edmorley> ha
1204. # [11:14] <KWierso|Home> then you'd just lag against inbound
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1206. # [11:16] <KWierso|Home> what the hell am I still doing up after 2am? I have nothing needing to be done except possibly making snarky comments on IRC and/or killing more flies...
1207. # [11:16] * Ms2ger puts an extra sugar in his tea
1208. # [11:16] <Ms2ger> KWierso|Home, killing flies is an important job!
1209. # [11:16] * heycam is now known as heycam|away
1210. # [11:17] <Ms2ger> And I repeat someone's question: when do we disable the tilt tests?
1211. # [11:18] <KWierso|Home> before they level out?
1212. # [11:18] * aja groans
1213. # [11:18] <KWierso|Home> see?
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1215. # [11:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c25274efa6f6 - Steven Lee - Bug 783500 - Hook up IdleAPI to permissions manager, r=jlebar
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1220. # [11:24] <Ms2ger> http://i.qkme.me/3r5x55.jpg
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1222. # [11:27] <jaws> Ms2ger++, KWierso|Home++
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1224. # [11:30] * aja groans again
1225. # [11:30] <Ms2ger> Yay, Callek joined the Rebellion!
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1227. # [11:32] <gaston> against what ? nspr ?
1228. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> Zing
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1231. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> test_imagemap failures are dlbi's fault, right?
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1236. # [11:41] <mattwoodrow> Ms2ger: I don't think so, the bug for that has being going since long before DLBI landed
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1238. # [11:41] <Ms2ger> Yeah, but didn't you make it worse?
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1240. # [11:42] <mattwoodrow> maybe marginally?
1241. # [11:43] <Ms2ger> edmorley, can we just disable it? :)
1242. # [11:43] <edmorley> yeah why not
1243. # [11:43] <edmorley> as for tilt, if I don't get a response in the next day or so I'm disabling all tilt tests on linux x86
1244. # [11:44] <Ms2ger> \o/
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1246. # [11:44] <edmorley> I can't believe I had the orangefactor nearing 2 at one point a few weeks ago and now we're back up to near 4
1247. # [11:44] <edmorley> but anyway
1248. # [11:44] <Ms2ger> Also, did I mention that robocop has silly failure output?
1249. # [11:45] <edmorley> the triple thing?
1250. # [11:45] <edmorley> yeah annoys me, on my list
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1252. # [11:45] <Ms2ger> Another thing
1253. # [11:46] <Ms2ger> Did I mention lately you rock?
1254. # [11:46] <edmorley> heh :-)
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1256. # [11:47] <Ms2ger> No, seriously
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1259. # [11:47] <edmorley> as do you, mr 21 changesets whilst also doing my course ;-)
1260. # [11:48] <Ms2ger> You don't know how well I do there ;)
1261. # [11:48] <Ms2ger> And, I guess, 22 now :)
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1264. # [11:53] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, ping
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1273. # [11:57] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I know you must be getting at least an 'A' in procrastination... :P
1274. # [11:57] <Ms2ger> Oh, if I only I had such a course :)
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1276. # [11:58] <Ms2ger> I think mjrosenb is getting escorted out of the tree
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1279. # [11:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64fce23853df - Ed Morley - Bug 745788 - Temporarily disable test_imagemap.html for frequent timeouts
1280. # [12:01] <Ms2ger> And browser_dbg_bfcache.js / TypeError: element is undefined ain't happy either
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1283. # [12:02] <edmorley> Ms2ger: fixed on fx-team
1284. # [12:02] <edmorley> and m-c now actually
1285. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> Shall I merge over? :
1286. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> :)
1287. # [12:02] <edmorley> I'm using the "add whitebaord column to orangefactor" patch locally, makes things like that clearer
1288. # [12:03] <edmorley> Ms2ger: bustage on inbound, hold off a sec
1289. # [12:03] <edmorley> mjrosenb: ping
1290. # [12:03] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I tried
1291. # [12:03] <Ms2ger> He'd been gone for >4 hours
1292. # [12:03] <edmorley> oh yeah, sorry
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1294. # [12:04] <Ms2ger> (It's pretty obviously him)
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1298. # [12:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15ec3a643b0b - Ed Morley - Backout dbc7e1bc48d0 (bug 765119) for make check failures
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1300. # [12:06] <edmorley> oh ffs copy pasta fail
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1304. # [12:07] <edmorley> copied the start and end ranges as both being the first cset
1305. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> Woops :)
1306. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> bsmith, fwiw, nsRefPtr is still perfectly fine
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1309. # [12:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c76b04f5a2b5 - Ed Morley - Backout 7895a56d434d, 2520fd9f3883, bca9d7ef2727, ba4e134b13fd (bug 765119) for make check failures
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1318. # [12:20] <Optimizer> does the nsiTimer persists across windows opening and closing ?
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1320. # [12:21] <Optimizer> as in open window 1, create a one shot to be fired after 10 minutes, open window 2, close window 1 before 10 minutes are over,
1321. # [12:21] <Optimizer> will the timer be still fired
1322. # [12:21] <Optimizer> ?
1323. # [12:22] <Yoric> Well, unless the timer is garbage-collected, it should be preserved.
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1325. # [12:22] <Yoric> So it depends on where the variable is stored, I guess.
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1327. # [12:22] <Optimizer> in a bootstrap file of my addon
1328. # [12:22] <Optimizer> restat less
1329. # [12:23] <Ms2ger> I believe nsITimers aren't released before their timer fires
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1335. # [12:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da5df2c1ae16 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 795255 - B2G RIL: improve error handling mechanism for 'setCallWaiting'. r=vicamo
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1348. # [12:35] <Ms2ger> smaug, yt?
1349. # [12:35] <whimboo> smaug: whenever you need help I'm around th enext 3h
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1357. # [12:43] <sewardj> anybody here good for a simple how-to-use question about nsCOMPtr ?
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1362. # [12:47] <Ms2ger> Shoot
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1367. # [12:48] <sewardj> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1854462
1368. # [12:49] <sewardj> Ms2ger: CleanupWidgetTracing ...
1369. # [12:49] <sewardj> Ms2ger: is that correct? valgrind reports double frees in here
1370. # [12:49] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
1371. # [12:49] <Ms2ger> No, that's bad
1372. # [12:49] <sewardj> Ms2ger: and I wonder if it right both to delete sTracerRunnable
1373. # [12:49] <sewardj> and then assign nullptr to it
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1375. # [12:50] <sewardj> Ms2ger: which somehow causes nsCOMPtr to do Release again ?
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1378. # [12:50] <sewardj> is that a correct understanding?
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1380. # [12:50] <Ms2ger> the '= nullptr' calls Release(), which does delete this, but this is already freed...
1381. # [12:50] <@smaug> Ms2ger: pong
1382. # [12:50] <Ms2ger> Just kill the delete, please
1383. # [12:51] <@smaug> whimboo: I got the vpn working
1384. # [12:51] <sewardj> Ms2ger: so that the only thing left in is "sTracerRunnable = nullptr;" ?
1385. # [12:51] <@smaug> just about to start testing
1386. # [12:51] <Ms2ger> smaug, nsFocusManager:: 1.14 + void SetMouseButtonDownHandlingDocument(nsIDocument* aDocument)
1387. # [12:51] <Ms2ger> sewardj, correct
1388. # [12:51] <sewardj> Ms2ger: thanks
1389. # [12:51] <@smaug> whimboo: http://10.250.73.243:8080/ is the right address?
1390. # [12:51] <Ms2ger> Er, that pasted weird
1391. # [12:51] <whimboo> smaug: nice. so you will have to wait until the next nighlty/aurora builds will appear
1392. # [12:51] <Ms2ger> smaug, is it bad if we hit the ASSERTION(!aDocument || !mMouseDownEventHandlingDocument)?
1393. # [12:51] <whimboo> smaug: yes it is
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1395. # [12:52] * Ms2ger whacks blassey and dougt
1396. # [12:52] <whimboo> smaug: once builds appear in 'Build Queue' you can assume that you can start the investigation
1397. # [12:52] <@smaug> whimboo: oh... so how do I know when to click 'enable aurorefresh'
1398. # [12:53] <@smaug> ahaa
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1400. # [12:53] <@smaug> Ms2ger: looking
1401. # [12:53] <whimboo> smaug: that one was probably false alarm. its even reproducible with it disabled
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1403. # [12:53] <@smaug> whimboo: so I could enable the autorefresh now?
1404. # [12:54] <whimboo> smaug: not necessary but yes, you cna do
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1406. # [12:55] <Ms2ger> baku++
1407. # [12:55] <baku> Ms2ger, I was just writing: do we have any spec about it?
1408. # [12:55] <Ms2ger> WebIDL
1409. # [12:55] <@smaug> whimboo: could you perhaps run the thing using a debug build of firefox?
1410. # [12:56] <@smaug> whimboo: and set XPCOM_MEM_LEAK_LOG=1 environment variable
1411. # [12:56] <@smaug> first set that, run FF and the page until it causes some problems and then close FF
1412. # [12:56] <@smaug> if there are runtime leaks, they should be reported
1413. # [12:56] <@smaug> s/runtime/shutdown/
1414. # [12:57] <@smaug> I'm hoping there are only runtime leaks, not shutdown
1415. # [12:57] <whimboo> smaug: i'm sorry but I will not have time for it today
1416. # [12:57] <@smaug> k
1417. # [12:57] <@smaug> I'll do it then
1418. # [12:57] <whimboo> smaug: have to work on the webrtc mochitests and have to leave in 3h
1419. # [12:57] <@smaug> if I reproduce this leak
1420. # [12:57] <@smaug> whimboo: ok, np
1421. # [12:57] <whimboo> smaug: i'm fairly sure you can
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1423. # [12:57] <whimboo> smaug: if not please comment on the bug and I can have a look on thursday
1424. # [12:58] <@smaug> so now I need some builds ?
1425. # [12:58] <whimboo> smaug: would be easier to reproduce if you have a local ci instance running and watch all builds not only the nightly ones
1426. # [12:58] <whimboo> yes
1427. # [12:58] <@smaug> whimboo: does that mean someone should push something to m-c or aurora?
1428. # [12:58] <whimboo> you will have to wait until the ones from today appear
1429. # [12:59] <whimboo> no. we don't run tests based on checkin
1430. # [12:59] <whimboo> but on nightly builds
1431. # [12:59] <@smaug> ah
1432. # [12:59] <@smaug> ok
1433. # [12:59] <whimboo> if you setup your own version you can change set to tinderbox
1434. # [12:59] <whimboo> s/set/that
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1436. # [13:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7897fb9e2563 - Shian-Yow Wu - Bug 794767 - B2G RIL: Handle data call error without APN name. r=vicamo
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1438. # [13:01] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I assume you don't know why that assertion fires
1439. # [13:01] <Ms2ger> No, I just saw it in a tinderbox log
1440. # [13:01] <@smaug> um, this vpn connection is a bit painful
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1444. # [13:03] <@smaug> Ms2ger: ah, I see...
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1446. # [13:04] <@smaug> Ms2ger: do you know which test caused the assertion
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1448. # [13:04] <@smaug> hmm, wait
1449. # [13:05] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15735257&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
1450. # [13:05] <Ms2ger> So, test_wheeltransaction.xul?
1451. # [13:05] <@smaug> hmm, right, so chrome code may cause that assertion to fire
1452. # [13:05] <whimboo> smaug: please check our staging server : http://qa-masterblaster.mv.mozilla.com:8080/
1453. # [13:06] <whimboo> smaug: i put two items into the queue manually
1454. # [13:06] <@smaug> whimboo: should I use that?
1455. # [13:06] <whimboo> i can do more
1456. # [13:06] <@smaug> ah
1457. # [13:07] <@smaug> whimboo: and after enabling autorefresh, I just wait?
1458. # [13:07] * @smaug has about:cc installed to check when cc graph gets larger
1459. # [13:07] <whimboo> smaug: i added some more. hopefully it will show the problem
1460. # [13:07] <whimboo> just wait yes
1461. # [13:07] <gabor> janv: hey there, are you around?
1462. # [13:07] <@smaug> Ms2ger: file a bug and CC me and masayuki ?
1463. # [13:07] <Ms2ger> Will do
1464. # [13:08] <@smaug> thanks!
1465. # [13:08] * Ms2ger remembers that he promised mounir a bug too
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1467. # [13:08] <mounir> Ms2ger: indeed you did
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1469. # [13:10] <@smaug> whimboo: so how long do you need to run the page usually ?
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1471. # [13:10] <@smaug> (atm I'm seeing smaller than ever CC graph )
1472. # [13:10] <whimboo> smaug: yesterday we had about 70 items in the queue
1473. # [13:10] <whimboo> so it hasn't taken that long
1474. # [13:10] <whimboo> but wait >30mins
1475. # [13:11] <whimboo> i have opened the tab too
1476. # [13:11] <@smaug> k
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1478. # [13:11] <whimboo> will head out for lunch and check when I'm back
1479. # [13:11] <@smaug> whimboo: note, I'm using a nightly build
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1481. # [13:11] <@smaug> which has at least one CC handling related fix
1482. # [13:11] <whimboo> k
1483. # [13:12] <@smaug> oh, at least 2. We can optimize out from CC graph better, so CC times should stay lower
1484. # [13:12] <@smaug> whimboo: but the memchaser thing is odd
1485. # [13:12] <@smaug> that is separate problem I guess
1486. # [13:12] <whimboo> smaug: shall we file a bug on it against the sdk?
1487. # [13:13] <whimboo> or would you mind doing it?
1488. # [13:13] <@smaug> whimboo: file a bug on xpcom for now
1489. # [13:13] <@smaug> CC me and :mccr8
1490. # [13:13] <whimboo> you have better knowldege what's going on
1491. # [13:13] <whimboo> k will do later
1492. # [13:13] <@smaug> mccr8 knows about weakmaps
1493. # [13:13] <@smaug> which the bug is somehow about
1494. # [13:14] <mounir> Ms2ger: do you want to write the patch?
1495. # [13:14] <mounir> or should I do that?
1496. # [13:14] <Ms2ger> smaug, Core::Event Handling?
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1498. # [13:14] <@smaug> yup
1499. # [13:15] <Ms2ger> mounir, do you have time to?
1500. # [13:15] <mounir> Ms2ger: it should be fast, so yes
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1503. # [13:17] <@smaug> bah, wesj left
1504. # [13:18] <@smaug> oh, he is in SF. Can't be awake
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1508. # [13:21] <@smaug> odd. chrome is insanely slow on this machine
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1512. # [13:23] <@smaug> oh, hmm
1513. # [13:23] <@smaug> maybe not
1514. # [13:23] <@smaug> they have just regressed event handling performance pretty badly
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1529. # [13:43] * NeilAway wonders whether C++ lets you overload "delete Foo" (where Foo is a class) to stop the compiler from casting Foo to a pointer
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1535. # [13:46] <@smaug> whimboo: so I've run it now for 30min, and there are no objects from the jenkins page in the CC graph. The graph stays almost all the time below 500 objects (which is really tiny). Yesterday the smallest graph you uploaded had 20000+ objects. CC time is between 8ms and 46ms
1536. # [13:46] <@smaug> NeilAway: you're thinking about the delete nsCOMPtr case ?
1537. # [13:46] <@smaug> I was surprised that even compiles
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1545. # [13:51] <NeilAway> smaug: so was I
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1552. # [13:53] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: not possible to catch this case this way.
1553. # [13:54] <gfritzsche> and a bit too late to remove the implicit conversion to pointer i guess
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1555. # [13:55] <gfritzsche> which i find evil
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1567. # [14:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a3537526360 - Gervase Markham - Bug 759095 - remove stray references to tri-license.
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1571. # [14:03] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: we can't remove the implicit conversion to pointer...
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1580. # [14:07] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: so i assumed. do you know the reasoning against say ptr.get() though besides requiring global fixup?
1581. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> edmorley, thanks for the stars
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1584. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> gfritzsche, completely useless noise every time you pass a pointer to a function?
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1586. # [14:08] <gfritzsche> Ms2ger: not useless if it catches mistakes at compile-time, no?
1587. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> Meh
1588. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> The problem you need to solve is delete'ing refcounted objects, not smart pointers
1589. # [14:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea93afa3c7b7 - Simone Carletti - Bug 794882 - Add hu.net to PSL. r=gerv.
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1591. # [14:11] <zzzzz> If I mark a bug check-in needed thats in the 'keywords' field right ? or does something go in the Whiteboard ?
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1596. # [14:12] <@smaug> Ms2ger: you need to delete refcounted objects at some point
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1598. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> smaug, well, yes, that's kinda the issue
1599. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> zzzzz, correct, keywords
1600. # [14:13] <@smaug> this particular issue is about nsCOMPtr
1601. # [14:13] <zzzzz> Ms2ger: thanks
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1603. # [14:16] <gfritzsche> Ms2ger: this seems orthogonally to me
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1615. # [14:24] <whimboo> smaug: memory went up for me in between
1616. # [14:24] <whimboo> do you see something
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1619. # [14:26] <smontagu> so is there a way to get either from hg.mozilla.org or from local hg a particular version of a particular file?
1620. # [14:27] <smontagu> starting from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/27a5fa7bcd30/intl/unicharutil/util/nsUnicodePropertyData.cpp there's a link to "raw", but what it gives me isn't raw at all
1621. # [14:27] <Pike> smontagu: hg help cat
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1623. # [14:28] <Fallen> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/27a5fa7bcd30/intl/unicharutil/util/nsUnicodePropertyData.cpp ?
1624. # [14:28] <Pike> also, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/raw-file/27a5fa7bcd30/intl/unicharutil/util/nsUnicodePropertyData.cpp
1625. # [14:28] <Fallen> yes
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1629. # [14:28] <smontagu> Pike: ta
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1634. # [14:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a3024f9a744 - Mike Hommey - Bug 794966 - Treat environment variables as = assignments instead of := in pymake. r=ted
1635. # [14:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/572b3980300c - Mike Hommey - Bug 792050 - Allow to precompile startup cache without omnijar'ing first. r=khuey
1636. # [14:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc70ce87180c - Mike Hommey - Bug 794490 - Don't buffer stdout and stderr in pymake. r=ted
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1701. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> glandium, red
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1704. # [15:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef321673c843 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 795721 - Inherit FunctionBox from ObjectBox; r=njn
1705. # [15:12] <glandium> Ms2ger: sigh... i bet on yet another fun interaction between msys and pymake
1706. # [15:12] <Ms2ger> That wouldn't surprise me
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1753. # [15:37] <Ms2ger> edmorley, need to go offline for an hour or two, I can deal with the Moth assertion when I get back
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1760. # [15:40] <jlebar> edmorley, How do you feel about this idea of letting people land try'ed changes on m-i with DONTBUILD?
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1778. # [15:51] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: try -a ?
1779. # [15:51] <jlebar> bsmedberg, Is -a "all" or "any"?
1780. # [15:51] * @bsmedberg speculates that would mainly lead to inefficient use of try
1781. # [15:51] <@bsmedberg> -a is all, isn't it?
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1783. # [15:52] <jlebar> bsmedberg, Then, yes, for the first experiment, anyway? A fair number of pushes already have try -a runs.
1784. # [15:52] <jlebar> bsmedberg, I was under the impression that try was 50% of our load to m-i's 25%, but catlee corrected me; it's m-i 40% to try 30%.
1785. # [15:53] <jlebar> bsmedberg, Which changes things a lot...
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1788. # [15:54] <mrbkap> dougt: pong -- though I'm on the East Coast so I suspect you're going to wake up when I'm at lunch.
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1790. # [15:55] <jlebar> bsmedberg, But I think you're right that if people start doing try: -a builds just so they can push to m-i with DONTBUILD, that would probably lead to inefficient use of try.
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1795. # [15:57] <edmorley> Ms2ger: sorry was in a meeting
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1818. # [16:08] <kanha> hi
1819. # [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/645f41404b82 - Zack Weinberg - Another round of diagnostics for bug 536603.
1820. # [16:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/784278a21091 - Zack Weinberg - Revert previous set of diagnostics for bug 536603.
1821. # [16:09] <kanha> I saw mozilla internship program list.Can anyone please tell me when is the deadline for submission of applications..?
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1824. # [16:10] <Yoric> kanha: I don't think there is a specific deadline.
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1827. # [16:10] <Yoric> However, last year, all positions were filled by december, if I recall correctly.
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1829. # [16:11] <kanha> thanks Yoric :)
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1831. # [16:11] <Yoric> np
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1833. # [16:11] <kanha> I am interested in applying for it can you please guide me/
1834. # [16:11] <kanha> ?
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1837. # [16:12] <Yoric> kanha: You should be able to find everything you are looking for at http://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/
1838. # [16:12] <Yoric> http://careers.mozilla.org, that is
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1841. # [16:13] <kanha> thanks :D
1842. # [16:13] <bhearsum> jlebar: unit tests and talos run on the same machines
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1844. # [16:13] <bhearsum> and it's a single pool for try + everything else
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1846. # [16:14] <bhearsum> (except 'make check', which runs on the build machines)
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1849. # [16:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3435a20d3ff - Eddy Bruel - Bug 795625 - Don't push StmtInfo for Parser::functionBody; r=jorendorff on irc
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1851. # [16:15] * jorendorff looks that one over
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1855. # [16:17] <jlebar> bhearsum, I see! Thanks.
1856. # [16:17] <bhearsum> your welcome
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1859. # [16:18] <@khuey> jlebar++
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1869. # [16:26] <joe> philor|away: clearly not :/
1870. # [16:26] <joe> philor|away: as usual, thanks for bailing me out
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1881. # [16:31] <Yoric> I am looking at moving a subset of the shutdown sequence off the main thread.
1882. # [16:32] <Yoric> Do we have a way to prevent the shutdown from taking place until that code is complete?
1883. # [16:32] <Yoric> /that code/execution of that code/
1884. # [16:32] <jlebar> Yoric, A mutex, perhaps?
1885. # [16:33] <jlebar> Yoric, Or monitor, as you prefer...
1886. # [16:33] <Yoric> This is JS code, so not feasible.
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1888. # [16:33] <Yoric> (that I know of)
1889. # [16:33] <jlebar> Yoric, The OMT code is in JS?
1890. # [16:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a1dd2f71fda0 - ffxbld - Added FENNEC_16_0b6_RELEASE FENNEC_16_0b6_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset b522f9c2515d. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
1891. # [16:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b522f9c2515d - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for fennec 16.0b6 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
1892. # [16:33] <Yoric> jlebar: Yes.
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1896. # [16:34] <jlebar> Yoric, Is the caller of the code and the code you want to run once the OMT code finishes all in C++?
1897. # [16:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a26a5447eaf9 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 16.0b6 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
1898. # [16:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/08fc2749fdec - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_16_0b6_RELEASE FIREFOX_16_0b6_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset a26a5447eaf9. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
1899. # [16:35] <jlebar> Yoric, Actually, if the JS is running OMT, is it in a worker?
1900. # [16:35] <Yoric> Well, at the moment, the caller and the code are bound only by an observer.
1901. # [16:35] <Yoric> Yes, it will be in a worker.
1902. # [16:35] <@smaug> bsmedberg: when you were doing xcomgc, was the main problem finding references to objects in the heap or what?
1903. # [16:35] <@smaug> bsmedberg: or...
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1906. # [16:36] <@smaug> bsmedberg: what I'm more interested in, do you recall any problems with finding references in the stack
1907. # [16:36] <jlebar> Yoric, So...can't you send a message from the worker to the main thread saying "I'm done" and then have that trigger the remaining part of the shutdown sequence, if we're ready to do that part? Otherwise, once we get to that part where we'd start waiting for the other thread, we look at a variable which indicates that the other thread is already done, and then don't wait.
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1910. # [16:37] <Yoric> jlebar: Not that simple.
1911. # [16:37] <@smaug> (and as usually, random use of 'in' and 'on' and 'with'. English is so odd.)
1912. # [16:37] * jlebar is starting to feel like he's not helping yoric. :)
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1914. # [16:37] <Yoric> At the moment, the only thing that prevents shutdown from proceeding is that the code is synchronous.
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1917. # [16:37] <Yoric> If I add a mutex or a loop, well, there is not much gained by placing everything off the main thread.
1918. # [16:38] <jlebar> Yoric, You certainly don't want a busyloop.
1919. # [16:38] <Yoric> I certainly don't.
1920. # [16:38] <jlebar> Yoric, I'm not convinced the mutex would be worse, but maybe I misunderstand what you're trying to accomplish.
1921. # [16:38] <Yoric> I suppose I could do a nested event loop, but I have no clue how that would fare in shutdown context.
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1927. # [16:39] <Yoric> Well, the mutex would just make things synchronous again.
1928. # [16:40] <jlebar> Yoric, You'd be able to run the worker concurrently with whatever main-thread stuff you want to do.
1929. # [16:40] <jlebar> Yoric, Until the join point.
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1931. # [16:40] <jlebar> Yoric, Why do you care about handling events during shutdown?
1932. # [16:40] <Yoric> No, I just care about making sure that I am not blocking the rest of shutdown.
1933. # [16:40] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
1934. # [16:41] <Yoric> nested event loop is probably a bad idea for that
1935. # [16:41] <jlebar> Yoric, So you want this worker to go and not block shutdown, until main-thread shutdown reaches a certain point, right?
1936. # [16:41] <Yoric> That is the idea, indeed.
1937. # [16:41] <jlebar> Yoric, And once the main thread reaches that point, you want it to wait for the worker to complete?
1938. # [16:41] <Yoric> Indeed.
1939. # [16:41] <jlebar> That really sounds like a mutex/monitor to me.
1940. # [16:41] <Yoric> Phrased like this, it does sound like a mutex :)
1941. # [16:42] <Yoric> Ok, let's get back to the code and find out just where a mutex would make sense.
1942. # [16:42] <@smaug> so in principle would anyone object if I added StackPtr<nsIFoo>. If nsIFoo was marked to have only cycle collectable implementations, addref/release wouldn't be called (but CC would ensure that the object isn't deleted), otherwise AddRef/Release would be called like with nsCOMPtr/nsRefPtr
1943. # [16:42] <Yoric> Thanks.
1944. # [16:43] <jlebar> Yoric, sure thing; I'm glad I actually helped!
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1950. # [16:46] <@bsmedberg> smaug: the stack refs are the hard problem, really
1951. # [16:47] <@bsmedberg> smaug: because any efficient GC is going to have to be a moving GC, so you need to either have compiler support for GC safe points and moving pointers
1952. # [16:47] <@smaug> bsmedberg: why? I would need them only to root things, not for any traversing
1953. # [16:47] <@smaug> bsmedberg: ah, yeah, in GC
1954. # [16:47] <@bsmedberg> or C++ smart classes and then make sure that they aren't optimized away incorrectly
1955. # [16:47] <@smaug> yup
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1957. # [16:48] <@bsmedberg> that's what really killed the first XPCOMGC and made us sure that we needed a new language
1958. # [16:48] <@smaug> that is what I'm thinking for CC
1959. # [16:48] <@bsmedberg> yeah, stack rooting for nonmoving CC sounds probably reasonable
1960. # [16:49] <Yoric> Are you discussing switching from reference-counting to gc?
1961. # [16:49] <@smaug> no
1962. # [16:49] <@smaug> optimizing cycle collector some more
1963. # [16:49] <@smaug> and relying on it more so that we could optimize out lots of addref/release calls
1964. # [16:50] <@smaug> but this stack thingie needs to happen after some other changes
1965. # [16:50] <@smaug> so won't do it any time soon
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1969. # [16:52] <Yoric> ok
1970. # [16:53] <jcranmer> catlee: how much does comm-central/try-c-c eat up compared to the mozilla-* stuff?
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1982. # [16:59] <catlee> jcranmer: time-wise?
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1984. # [17:00] <jcranmer> yeah
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1986. # [17:03] <catlee> jcranmer: comm-central is ~1.4%, and try-comm-central is ~0.19%
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1988. # [17:04] <jlebar> Are b2g builds even on tryserver?
1989. # [17:05] * jlebar does not see them e.g. in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=93d987c3a6c8
1990. # [17:05] <jcranmer> catlee: that seems lower than I was expecting, but, then again, we only have two testsuites :-)
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1992. # [17:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16ae4d5d27d7 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=731974, requestAnimationFrame generates too short/long frames; r=bz,smaug,roc
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1995. # [17:06] <catlee> jlebar: yeah, only with -p all
1996. # [17:06] <catlee> "Armv7a ICS opt"
1997. # [17:06] <jlebar> catlee, Oh, of course. :)
1998. # [17:06] <jlebar> catlee, Thanks. :)
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2005. # [17:09] <evilpie> firebot: uuid
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2011. # [17:11] <@ehsan> vlad: \o/
2012. # [17:11] <evilpie> firebot: thanks
2013. # [17:11] <firebot> evilpie: just doing my job!
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2017. # [17:11] <vlad> ehsan: fingers furiously crossed
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2023. # [17:13] <decoder> glandium: ping?
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2025. # [17:14] <glandium> decoder: pong
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2028. # [17:16] <decoder> glandium: remember the change I made in widget/gtk2/mozcontainer.c because of that GTK incompatiblity on test slaves?
2029. # [17:16] <decoder> is that still necessary?
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2032. # [17:16] <@ehsan> kinetik: do you want me to land bug 795892?
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2038. # [17:19] <@smaug> vlad: why did you assign Bug 793233 to me ?
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2042. # [17:20] <@smaug> vlad: smontagu is 'not smaug'
2043. # [17:20] <glandium> decoder: not since bug 793634 landed
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2045. # [17:21] <vlad> smaug: sigh, not on purpose
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2047. # [17:21] <vlad> smaug: bugzilla got me stuck in a "your show_bug page is too old!" cycle and I have no idea what it ended up submitting even though I went back.. sorry 'bout that
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2050. # [17:23] <@ehsan> froydnj: so, is it time to have a tracker bug for the war on prtypes.h?
2051. # [17:23] * @ehsan has been drowning in them
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2056. # [17:25] <decoder> glandium: thanks! :)
2057. # [17:25] <froydnj> ehsan: think so!
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2060. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a73d985e5e9 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 795892 - Fix CORS listener refcnt in ChannelMediaResource::OpenChannel. r=roc
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2062. # [17:26] <froydnj> ehsan: unfortunately that s/prtypes.h// patch doesn't quite work because nsString.h needs prtypes.h in opt builds =/
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2064. # [17:26] <@ehsan> froydnj: problem is, how would I find all of those bugs that I've filed? ;)
2065. # [17:26] <@ehsan> froydnj: oh why is that?
2066. # [17:26] * @ehsan might have seen the same thing
2067. # [17:27] <jcranmer> ehsan: PRUnichar?
2068. # [17:27] <jcranmer> oh, presumably you added the prunichar-only header
2069. # [17:27] <jcranmer> nm
2070. # [17:27] <froydnj> ehsan: because nsDebug.h includes prprf.h for DEBUG only, which of course includes prtypes.h
2071. # [17:28] <froydnj> ehsan: but clearly that doesn't have in opt builds, so things die
2072. # [17:28] <@ehsan> jcranmer: right
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2074. # [17:28] <@ehsan> froydnj: sorry I can't see why that would break the build?
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2077. # [17:31] <froydnj> ehsan: the #include chain is long and torturous, but as best I can see, nsString.h gets prtypes.h via nsTArray.h (!), which includes nsDebug.h and prtypes.h
2078. # [17:31] <froydnj> and when we remove prtypes.h from nsTArray.h, the only way to get prtypes.h is through nsDebug.h
2079. # [17:32] <tbsaunde> froydnj: but why does nsString.h need pryypes.h at all?
2080. # [17:32] <froydnj> tbsaunde: PRUnichar
2081. # [17:32] <@ehsan> froydnj: oh, so is it the case that nsString.h relies on prtypes.h but does not include it?
2082. # [17:32] <froydnj> ehsan: right. I think it's sufficient to make that dependency explicit
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2085. # [17:33] <tbsaunde> froydnj: oh, I was assuming you had done the prunichar only header
2086. # [17:33] <@ehsan> froydnj: r+
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2088. # [17:33] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: no, we're long ways away from that!
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2090. # [17:35] <tbsaunde> ehsan: well I know it :)
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2094. # [17:37] <jcranmer> we should just make a char16_t typedef in mozilla/StandardInteger.h (?) and use that instead
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2096. # [17:39] <@ehsan> dholbert: ping
2097. # [17:40] <tbsaunde> ehsan: btw looks like PRUnichar isn't really that hard #ifdef win32 wcahr #else PRUint16
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2099. # [17:40] <tbsaunde> so yeah char16_t seems pretty doable
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2101. # [17:41] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: but we also need a way to construct literals, i.e., make NS_LITERAL_STRING work
2102. # [17:41] <jcranmer> ehsan: we already use u"" if it's supported
2103. # [17:41] <jcranmer> for gcc 4.4, we stick with -fshort-wchar and use L""
2104. # [17:41] <jcranmer> and for MSVC we do that as well
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2106. # [17:41] <@ehsan> jcranmer: hmm, ok well maybe that would work then!
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2111. # [17:43] <@ehsan> jcranmer: wanna comment in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=dieprtypesdie please?
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2113. # [17:45] <froydnj> prtypes.die.die.die?
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2117. # [17:46] <jcranmer> ehsan: I'll do you one better
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2122. # [17:49] <evilpie> include "prtypes.h", Found 281 matching lines in 279 files worthy goal
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2124. # [17:50] <glandium> evilpie: interesting that some files include it twice
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2127. # [17:51] <jcranmer> it would be fun to have a patch that cleans up all the header includes
2128. # [17:51] <evilpie> "fun"
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2136. # [17:56] <jcranmer> ehsan: what about the patch that stops using LL_SUB-and-friends? :-)
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2143. # [17:59] <jcranmer> ehsan: oh, what about PRTime, too?
2144. # [18:00] <jlebar> philor, Do not mistake me for a "we do not have teh capacity" apologist.
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2150. # [18:03] <glandium> jcranmer: the problem of PRTime is: what do you want to replace it with? I'm moving a few instances to TimeStamps, and that's painful. Depending on what PRTime is currently used for, TimeStamp may *not* be a fit
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2152. # [18:03] <jcranmer> we need prtypes.h for PRTime
2153. # [18:03] <jcranmer> really, what we need is a good MFBT/XPCOM/something chrono system
2154. # [18:04] <evilpie> is PR stuff okay in security/ ?
2155. # [18:04] <biesi_> evilpie, manager or nss?
2156. # [18:04] <evilpie> nss
2157. # [18:04] <biesi_> yes
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2160. # [18:05] <glandium> evilpie: more than okay, it's almost mandatory
2161. # [18:05] <biesi_> jcranmer, someone had a patch for the LL_ macros, which got r-
2162. # [18:05] <jcranmer> I know I replaced them all in comm-central a few weeks back
2163. # [18:05] <jcranmer> 80-90% of them were PRTime-related
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2165. # [18:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/345a2a8ccb18 - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
2166. # [18:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/645f41404b82 - Zack Weinberg - Another round of diagnostics for bug 536603.
2167. # [18:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/784278a21091 - Zack Weinberg - Revert previous set of diagnostics for bug 536603.
2168. # [18:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fec17552df2 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
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2171. # [18:07] <ehoogeveen> Hmm, is profiling broken in today's Nightly? I've tried from a clean profile; pressing the Analyse button brings up the profile analysis page, but the 'Retrieving profile' bar stays empty
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2177. # [18:09] <evilpie> biesi_: ah you! new patch for bug 795442 is up in a minute
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2182. # [18:11] <biesi_> evilpie, cool
2183. # [18:11] <biesi_> but I can't review it immediately
2184. # [18:11] <biesi_> I need to get out of bed and to work
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2187. # [18:12] <evilpie> :)
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2189. # [18:12] <Waldo> pshaw
2190. # [18:12] <jcranmer> speaking of bed
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2192. # [18:13] <jcranmer> I need to go to bed and read my qual papers
2193. # [18:13] <NeilAway> jcranmer: will our new "uchar" type be the type of NS_LL("") or an integer type?
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2196. # [18:14] <Waldo> NeilAway: possibly a hybrid, since compiler support advances unevenly
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2198. # [18:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02f0c3cf5575 - Justin Lebar - Bug 794280 - Improve comment for SpecialPowers.pushPrefEnv(). r=ted DONTBUILD
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2201. # [18:17] <ehoogeveen> Hmm, it seems version 1.9.7 of the profiler plugin is broken for me - 1.9.6 seems to work fine
2202. # [18:18] <philor> jlebar: I know, but since most of the failures that get as far as me are the "huh, I never would have expected my patch to cause failures there" sort, and those are the ones where I'm least suited to figuring it out and the ones most likely to cause extended tree closures for retriggering to narrow it down, I don't have much fondness for "only test what you expect to fail"
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2206. # [18:20] <jlebar> philor, If you have a better idea of how to deal with current levels of (in)capacity, we could really use it.
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2208. # [18:22] <glandium> i think avoiding to clobber everything and being able to cancel builds on m-i and m-c could help greatly, already.
2209. # [18:22] <glandium> for instance, between my landing and my backout, there was no point wasting time continuing to build on windows
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2212. # [18:23] <jlebar> glandium, That's probably true! We have a bug on that, right?
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2214. # [18:23] <philor> jlebar: the only good one I have so far is "ffs, if you see someone doing stupid pushes to try, *talk* to them since they almost certainly were never told any different"
2215. # [18:23] <glandium> jlebar: i know there is one about windows builds not actually cancelling. i'm not sure there is one for having a cancellation not manually require a clobber
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2217. # [18:23] <philor> but we seem to prefer the route of writing hooks which will burn everyone, instead
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2221. # [18:24] <philor> yeah, there's a "cancel should set clobber" bug
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2224. # [18:24] <glandium> as for the clobberer, if it was better integrated with the rest, we could avoid across-the-board-clobbers
2225. # [18:25] <bwinton> philor: There is no social problem which can't be "fixed" by an extremely inconvenient technical solution. ;)
2226. # [18:25] <philor> :D
2227. # [18:25] <glandium> probably not all of them, but certainly a lot of them
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2231. # [18:26] <philor> bug 658934, but build coalescing is probably subject to the same problem where running.js doesn't understand how coalescing works and shows the build as running on one push when it's really running on another one, so dependent on that too
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2234. # [18:26] <glandium> also, now that we have a pymake "native" cl.exe wrapper, we can certainly integrate the ccache-like program for msvc
2235. # [18:27] <glandium> ted: ^
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2238. # [18:28] <jlebar> As much as I love ccache, all the data I've seen has pointed to its not being a large win on our builders.
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2240. # [18:28] <dholbert> ehsan, pong
2241. # [18:29] <glandium> jlebar: on windows, that could be a totally different story
2242. # [18:29] <jlebar> glandium, Indeed, it could be.
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2247. # [18:30] <catlee-buildduty> jlebar: in small tests it always seems like a win. maybe our cache is too small still
2248. # [18:31] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, I think part of the trouble is that if the cache is local (and maybe it has to be), you kind of need to be clever about how you assign jobs to builders.
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2251. # [18:32] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, Having a shared cache seems like it would theoretically help a lot more, but I recall that you guys tried that and found a lot of practical difficulties.
2252. # [18:33] <tbsaunde> jlebar: it probably also makes a huge difference if you look at try or m-i / m-c
2253. # [18:33] <jlebar> tbsaunde, Yes, absolutely, they're quite different.
2254. # [18:33] <tbsaunde> I'd guess ccache doesn't win you much if anything on a dep build, but should on clobber
2255. # [18:33] <catlee-buildduty> jlebar: yeah, they're all local right now, on the same disk even. we do try and assign jobs to the most recent available slave that did that type of job
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2257. # [18:34] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, But e.g. for a try build, a smarter heuristic would be to look at the "base revision" of the try push.
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2260. # [18:35] <glandium> tbsaunde: indeed
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2264. # [18:36] <catlee-buildduty> jlebar: yeah. I think that's pretty expensive to figure out in this environment though.
2265. # [18:36] <catlee-buildduty> pushlog doesn't publish ancestry
2266. # [18:36] <glandium> another thing that would definitely help *me* reduce my try load is if we were able to tell to try: hey, i want you to do builds for this changeset, this other changeset, and yet another one, all sequentially (that is, first is clobber, others are incremental)
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2268. # [18:37] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, You can't use pushlog to see the top cset of the push and then use normal hg to find the parent of that?
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2270. # [18:37] <glandium> (and incremental against each other, so would reuse the same builder every time)
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2272. # [18:38] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, Anyway, it's still not simple even once you have that rev. :shrug:
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2276. # [18:39] <catlee-buildduty> jlebar: we don't have repos checked out where this code is running
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2280. # [18:39] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, We have no web service which can tell you the parent of a cset on try?
2281. # [18:40] <jlebar> catlee-buildduty, I guess you're saying, pushlog is the only one which returns machine-parseable data, and it doesn't have that piece of data.
2282. # [18:40] <taras> khuey: what are orphan nodes in about:memory?
2283. # [18:40] <taras> or jlebar ^
2284. # [18:40] <glandium> jlebar: it should be easy to ask the mercurial server, actually
2285. # [18:40] <jlebar> taras, They're DOM nodes which are not part of a document's DOM tree.
2286. # [18:41] <taras> thanks
2287. # [18:41] <jlebar> taras, sure thing.
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2289. # [18:41] <jlebar> taras, In case you don't know, if you hover over an entry in about:memory, it will give a description. But the orphan-nodes description is not particularly helpful.
2290. # [18:43] <taras> jlebar: thanks, i forgot about that
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2292. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b900e03eb58 - Jeff Walden - Windows opt build warning fixes. No bug, r=njn on the jsopcode code removal, r=lumpy on the rest
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2298. # [18:48] <philor> catlee-buildduty: graphserver's saying it's "temporarily unavailable" - dunno if that's in the past, or someone should be closing every tree
2299. # [18:49] <philor> edmorley: and here's our chance to see how we do at parsing the scrape for talos when it's unexpected
2300. # [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0ef7fe877d2 - Ed Morley - Backout 16ae4d5d27d7 for mochitest-other failures in test_mousescroll.xul
2301. # [18:50] <edmorley> philor: :-)
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2303. # [18:51] <catlee-buildduty> philor: looks up to me right now
2304. # [18:51] <@bz> make question
2305. # [18:51] <BenWa> ehoogeveen: What happens?
2306. # [18:51] <@bz> Is there a way to do something like "make foo bar"
2307. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> make foo && make bar
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2309. # [18:51] <@bz> and have the actual commands for target foo get "bar" as a value?
2310. # [18:51] <@bz> that they can operate with?
2311. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> Oh
2312. # [18:51] <@bz> I mean, I can obviously do make ARG=bar foo
2313. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> "BAR=bar make foo" is the usual pattern, I think :)
2314. # [18:51] <@bz> but that's ugly
2315. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> ./mach foo bar!
2316. # [18:52] <@bz> mmm
2317. # [18:52] <@bz> ok, so perhaps a broader question
2318. # [18:52] <@bz> if we have a way to autogen example class decls for webidl bindings
2319. # [18:52] <edmorley> catlee-buildduty: so should we close?
2320. # [18:52] <@bz> what should the command to do that be?
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2322. # [18:52] <@bz> I was thinking "make example FooInterface" in the dom/bindings objdir
2323. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> ./dom/bindings/stubgenerator/generate.sh? :)
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2325. # [18:53] <@bz> it needs to run in the objdir
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2327. # [18:53] <glandium> bz: make whatever-the-target-file-name-is
2328. # [18:53] <@bz> because it needs info that't not available in the srcdir
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2330. # [18:53] <@bz> glandium: mmm
2331. # [18:53] <BenWa> Anyone know why I get 5 mozStorage threads after startup?
2332. # [18:53] <catlee-buildduty> edmorley: when is the latest failure?
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2334. # [18:53] <@bz> glandium: I don't have a way to generate make targets dynamically like that
2335. # [18:53] <@khuey> BenWa: because we open databases?
2336. # [18:53] <edmorley> catlee-buildduty: 1737 or later
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2338. # [18:54] <BenWa> Isn't 5 dedicated thread excessive?
2339. # [18:54] <edmorley> catlee-buildduty: 7 mins ago
2340. # [18:54] <@bz> glandium: I'd need one target per interface or something
2341. # [18:54] <@ehsan> dholbert: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793880 something you'd like to review?
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2343. # [18:54] <@bz> basically, the question is what should happen when there are two interfaces in a single webidl file
2344. # [18:54] <baku> bz, maybe you have comments/hints about 796850 ?
2345. # [18:54] <@bz> do we want to be able to generate an example per-interface?
2346. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> "./mach webidl-example Foo" from topsrcdir? :)
2347. # [18:54] <@bz> or just one for the entire webidl file?
2348. # [18:54] <catlee-buildduty> edmorley: link me!
2349. # [18:54] <froydnj> BenWa: one thread per database?
2350. # [18:54] <@bz> Ms2ger: does that work if you're not normally using mach? ;)
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2352. # [18:54] <vlad> edmorley: intermittent orange is intermittent :(
2353. # [18:54] <@bz> baku: looking
2354. # [18:55] <BenWa> froydnj: Anyone know off hand how much memory is consumed by a thread on various platform?
2355. # [18:55] <@bz> baku: "we should do it"
2356. # [18:55] <glandium> bz: make example-FooInterface ?
2357. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> bz, you mean, haven't built with mach?
2358. # [18:55] <BenWa> I'm getting a wild range of figures
2359. # [18:55] <@bz> glandium: hmm
2360. # [18:55] <@bz> glandium: yeah, ok, I might be able to do that
2361. # [18:55] <catlee-buildduty> edmorley: all OSes?
2362. # [18:55] <edmorley> vlad: it's not intermittent (perhaps not every platform, but still)
2363. # [18:55] <@bz> MS2ger: certainly not. ;)
2364. # [18:55] <baku> bz, heheh great :)
2365. # [18:55] <vlad> edmorley: look at the next commit?
2366. # [18:55] <edmorley> philor: need bug 794895 to get these talos failures in the summary
2367. # [18:55] <@bz> baku: do you have specific questions?
2368. # [18:55] <froydnj> BenWa: I want to say default stack size on Linux is a couple megabytes
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2370. # [18:55] <baku> bz, is it "just" a cpp impl + webidl
2371. # [18:55] <froydnj> BenWa: don't know about osx or windows
2372. # [18:55] <vlad> and try server etc. runs; though it's a badly written test, I'm fixing it now
2373. # [18:56] <@bz> baku: it's changing the codegen
2374. # [18:56] <glandium> BenWa: virtually nothing on linux and osx, except for address space
2375. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> bz, it's just python, I don't think there would be big issues
2376. # [18:56] <baku> or does it involve some python code?
2377. # [18:56] <@khuey> BenWa: "consumed" meaning address space or actual memory?
2378. # [18:56] <@ehsan> BenWa: 1mb on windows: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms686774%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
2379. # [18:56] <vlad> (as are the other oranges, working no fixing them all)
2380. # [18:56] <BenWa> froydnj: And 34 threads on startup where looking at a base memory usage of 68MB which is insane
2381. # [18:56] <@bz> baku: to add a new type of argument and return value
2382. # [18:56] <edmorley> vlad: opt on next push is failing too
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2384. # [18:56] <@bz> baku: so python
2385. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> bz, except maybe getting at an objdir
2386. # [18:56] <catlee-buildduty> edmorley: yeah, close the tree for now
2387. # [18:56] <BenWa> actual memory
2388. # [18:56] <baku> but webidl+cpp code too, is it?
2389. # [18:56] <@khuey> much lower
2390. # [18:56] <@bz> glandium: lemme try that
2391. # [18:56] <@bz> baku: nope
2392. # [18:56] <@khuey> threads only have reserved address space on sane operating systems
2393. # [18:56] <@bz> baku: apart from tests and making XHR use the new type
2394. # [18:56] <@ehsan> khuey: yeah we recently looked into it and iirc on linux for example we actually commit the thread stack memory
2395. # [18:56] <vlad> edmorley: where? I see an OSX 10.8 opt failure, for a different test
2396. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> baku, well, the python code writes cpp code ;)
2397. # [18:56] <froydnj> BenWa: that's roughly what about:memory tells me a new session on x86-64 takes up, so that can't be the whole story
2398. # [18:57] <@khuey> ehsan: that would be ... surprising
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2400. # [18:57] * @bz adds spec link
2401. # [18:57] <baku> Ms2ger, I don't think I'm going so far for this bug :)
2402. # [18:57] * Ms2ger beats mounir
2403. # [18:57] <glandium> does nsIFile handle / as a path separator on windows?
2404. # [18:57] <edmorley> vlad: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15744170&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2405. # [18:57] <Ms2ger> [Upon request]
2406. # [18:57] <baku> bz ok. Can I take a look of DOMString, for instance? is it similar?
2407. # [18:57] <edmorley> vlad: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15743940&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2408. # [18:57] <@bz> baku: yes
2409. # [18:57] <baku> bz, k
2410. # [18:57] <BenWa> Well it would depend on the profile
2411. # [18:57] <edmorley> vlad: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15744043&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2412. # [18:57] <jcranmer> NeilAway: no, char16_t will not be necessarily decltype(NS_LL("")), but nor is it that today
2413. # [18:57] <froydnj> khuey: hence the work on split stacks in GCC recently
2414. # [18:57] <@ehsan> khuey: BenWa: windows seems to only reserve if I'm reading the docs right
2415. # [18:57] <edmorley> vlad: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15743772&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2416. # [18:57] <BenWa> On mac we take 200MB base
2417. # [18:57] <vlad> edmorley: oh, sorry, we were looking at different tests -- yeah, test_mousescroll has different things failing, I didn't look at all of them
2418. # [18:57] <@bz> baku: this one will be a little differernt, but broadly can be based on DOMString
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2420. # [18:57] <BenWa> on my profile
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2422. # [18:58] <edmorley> vlad: np :-)
2423. # [18:58] <@khuey> ehsan: that's correct
2424. # [18:58] <@bz> baku: the C++ type will be nsCString, I expect....
2425. # [18:58] <vlad> edmorley: anyway, fixing the test now either way, shuold fix all the oranges (bugged and unbugged ;)
2426. # [18:58] * @bz is not sure what the best C++ type for this is
2427. # [18:58] <sfink|flu> bz: there's $(MAKECMDGOALS), but you'll go to hell if you hack something up with that. (And it's read-only.)
2428. # [18:58] <edmorley> vlad: thank you :-)
2429. # [18:58] * sfink|flu is now known as sfink
2430. # [18:58] <catlee-buildduty> edmorley: file a bug?
2431. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> bz, thanks for pointing out how I'm wrong :)
2432. # [18:59] <@bz> sfink: I'm just going to try the make thing for now
2433. # [18:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: hmm?
2434. # [18:59] <edmorley> catlee-buildduty: ok
2435. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> bz, 796410
2436. # [18:59] <Asa> has anyone noticed that scrolling on slashdot has gotten really bad recently on trunk? It's laggy and my fans spin up when i'm doing it (windows 7, modern hardware)
2437. # [19:00] <@khuey> froydnj: I thought split stacks were about allowing discontiguous ranges of virtual addresses
2438. # [19:00] <@khuey> froydnj: virtual memory should already make discontiguous physical memory trivial
2439. # [19:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: no problem. What I don't get is _why_ you're wrong. ;)
2440. # [19:00] <froydnj> khuey: easier to make your stack grow on demand with split stacks
2441. # [19:01] <@khuey> ehsan: I would be shocked if linux commits 8 MB of memory for every thread automatically
2442. # [19:01] <Ms2ger> khuey, you would?
2443. # [19:01] <@khuey> I would
2444. # [19:01] <glandium> ehsan: it doesn't
2445. # [19:01] <jcranmer> khuey: but what if your virtual memory address space becomes fragmented?
2446. # [19:01] <@ehsan> khuey: hrm, my memory is sort of rusty on the details
2447. # [19:01] <@ehsan> maybe jrmuizel remembers more?
2448. # [19:02] <jrmuizel> ehsan: about what?
2449. # [19:02] <glandium> err. khuey: it doesn't
2450. # [19:02] <@khuey> jcranmer: well if you can't find N MB of contiguous address space you lose, clearly
2451. # [19:02] <@khuey> glandium: yes, that's what I thought
2452. # [19:02] <@khuey> glandium: ehsan says otherwise
2453. # [19:02] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: remember we were looking into whether we commit or just reserve address space on thread creation?
2454. # [19:02] <@ehsan> (for the stack)
2455. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> bz, maybe I know... Looking
2456. # [19:02] <edmorley> catlee-buildduty: filed bug 796991
2457. # [19:03] <Waldo> has anyone looked into making us pass warning-disabling flags to MSVC before, akin to how we pass various warning-enabling/disabling flags to gcc?
2458. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> bz, I do know :)
2459. # [19:03] <@khuey> we do pass warning disabling flags to MSVC
2460. # [19:03] <jrmuizel> ehsan: stacks get mmaped so the address space is reserved the kernel can choose whether to commit or not
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2462. # [19:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: put it in the bug?
2463. # [19:03] <jrmuizel> I suspect that it does not by default
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2466. # [19:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: I guess question 1 is whether we plan to support disabling paris bindings and falling back to "experimental" ones for this stuff
2467. # [19:03] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: oh, that's the custom mmap flag that we found?
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2469. # [19:04] <@bz> Ms2ger: anyway
2470. # [19:04] <glandium> ehsan: i'm pretty sure it's not committed at thread creation
2471. # [19:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b24057bfd509 - tbirdbld - Added THUNDERBIRD_16_0b4_RELEASE THUNDERBIRD_16_0b4_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 8a8a932fbef4. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
2472. # [19:04] <jrmuizel> ehsan: no I believe that is the default behaviour for any anonymous mapping
2473. # [19:04] <joe> jrmuizel: go have your birthday
2474. # [19:04] <jrmuizel> joe: I will soon
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2476. # [19:04] <jrmuizel> joe: I already did a fair amount of birthdaying
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2481. # [19:06] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: hmm, I seem to remember that the kernel did not handle that flag at all...
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2484. # [19:06] <Waldo> khuey: pointer? I want to disable C4351, which is a warning added to say that MSVC's behavior changed in one case from non-standards-conforming to standards-conforming
2485. # [19:06] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: oh, and happy birthday!
2486. # [19:06] <jrmuizel> ehsan: correct
2487. # [19:06] <jrmuizel> ehsan: thanks
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2489. # [19:06] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: so, isn't the default behavior commiting the entire address space range?
2490. # [19:06] <Waldo> khuey: right now ionmonkey has some code that semi-depends on the new/correct behavior, and it spews warnings like no other as a result
2491. # [19:06] <jrmuizel> ehsan: perhaps I don't understand what you mean by commit
2492. # [19:06] <@khuey> Waldo: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#2200
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2494. # [19:07] <BenWa> Alright spawn 100 threads doesn't cause a significant memory increase
2495. # [19:07] <@khuey> Waldo: '-wdXXXX' where XXXX is the warning number
2496. # [19:07] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: so we're discussing whether linux commits thread stack space upon thread creation or not
2497. # [19:07] <Waldo> yeah, I found the msdn pages on how to do it, just needed to figure out *where* to do it
2498. # [19:07] <Waldo> :-)
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2500. # [19:07] <Waldo> hmm, tho, that's the whole Mozilla build
2501. # [19:08] <glandium> ehsan: no
2502. # [19:08] * Waldo searches for the JS spot for that
2503. # [19:08] <derf> You can just use #pragma's, too.
2504. # [19:08] <jrmuizel> ehsan: when you say commit do you mean there exists pages in physical ram or on swap that correspond to the addresses range of the stack?
2505. # [19:08] <Waldo> derf: yeah, that's just fugly :-)
2506. # [19:08] <derf> Well, it's MSVC.
2507. # [19:08] <derf> It's fugly by definition.
2508. # [19:09] <Waldo> I'd rather not be reminded of MSVC every time I see the code that triggers that bogo-warning :-)
2509. # [19:09] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: the former
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2511. # [19:09] <jrmuizel> ehsan: I only gave you one option
2512. # [19:09] <froydnj> sfink: that's quite the perl one-liner in 782731
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2514. # [19:09] <derf> That's why you stick it in a header somewhere you never look at.
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2520. # [19:10] <jrmuizel> ehsan: I don't think mmap commits by default (it depends on your overcommit settings)
2521. # [19:10] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: I mean, commit in the sense of backing the pages by physical memory *or* by swap space if it's not available
2522. # [19:10] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: oh well, you said the same thing indeed!
2523. # [19:10] <sfink> froydnj: you don't want to know how many very similar ones my fingers have typed in my lifetime. They kind of do it by themselves now. They enjoy the gagging sound that readers tend to make.
2524. # [19:10] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: ok
2525. # [19:10] <@ehsan> glandium: khuey: in that case I was wrong!
2526. # [19:10] <jrmuizel> ehsan: so I'd expect stacks to be committed on demand
2527. # [19:10] <@khuey> ehsan: *whew*
2528. # [19:10] <@ehsan> yeah that's sane
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2530. # [19:11] <@bsmedberg> johns: you joining us to talk about flash hang mitigation?
2531. # [19:12] <johns> bsmedberg: on my way
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2546. # [19:15] <jesup> What's the current status of infallible malloc? Is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Infallible_memory_allocation up to date? (i.e. infallible "malloc()" coming some day)
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2551. # [19:15] <froydnj> jesup: it's in, |new| is infallible by default
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2553. # [19:16] <@khuey> I don't think anybody is pushing on infallible 'malloc'
2554. # [19:16] <vlad> ttaubert: ping
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2556. # [19:16] <@khuey> new is already infallible, which solves most of the problems
2557. # [19:16] <@bsmedberg> yeah, malloc is more likely to be correctly checked
2558. # [19:16] <jesup> froydnj: Right, knew new is the new coolness (infallible) ;-) What about malloc()? There are very few uses of moz_xmalloc() (or moz_malloc) in our tree IIRC
2559. # [19:17] <Mook_as> and NS_Alloc is infallible
2560. # [19:17] <bdahl> anyone know of an event/notification that happens sometime after plugins are registered? it seems acrobat always steals priority over pdf.js now
2561. # [19:17] <jesup> ah, really - the page implied otherwise
2562. # [19:17] <ttaubert> vlad: hey
2563. # [19:18] <@bsmedberg> bdahl: what would you do with such event?
2564. # [19:18] <@khuey> there's not that much malloc in the tree
2565. # [19:18] <@khuey> and a lot of it is in external code
2566. # [19:18] * @bsmedberg notes that there probably isn't an event
2567. # [19:18] <vlad> ttaubert: hey, looking at your test fix in bug 625273
2568. # [19:18] <Mook_as> well, I dunno, I just look at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/base/nsMemoryImpl.cpp#161 instead
2569. # [19:18] <@khuey> e.g. hunspell
2570. # [19:18] <vlad> I'm seeing the "Validate tab positions in test 4." breakage again with some refresh driver changes
2571. # [19:18] <johns> bsmedberg: I can't seem to connect to vidyo for more than five seconds. Excellent.
2572. # [19:19] <vlad> looking at the test itself, the waitForTransition/executeSoon looks to be flaky -- what's supposed to trigger the "transitioned" event there?
2573. # [19:19] <derf> Or things like codecs, where we explicitly want malloc to be fallible.
2574. # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> johns: ugh, using what client?
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2576. # [19:19] <vlad> and wouldn't the call to moveTabInGroup inside the callback also trigger a transitioned event?
2577. # [19:19] <jesup> khuey/froydnj/etc: thanks
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2579. # [19:20] <johns> bsmedberg: desktop/linux client. It worked fine about 24 hours ago of course. I can try on my phone I suppose
2580. # [19:20] <ttaubert> vlad: looking
2581. # [19:20] <@bsmedberg> johns: join #plugins
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2589. # [19:21] <bdahl> bsmedberg: the first time firefox runs with pdf.js enabled it becomes the default pdf viewer
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2591. # [19:21] <bdahl> which we currently do during browserGlue init
2592. # [19:22] <bdahl> but if acrobat is installed it overrides us
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2598. # [19:27] <bdahl> ttaubert: ping
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2604. # [19:29] <ttaubert> vlad: need to take a deeper look at this. which bug are you working on? I could apply the patch locally and investigate
2605. # [19:29] <ttaubert> bdahl: pong
2606. # [19:30] <bdahl> ttaubert: just left a comment, but that PR needs to be against https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js not gaia
2607. # [19:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bca6d709dba2 - Bas Schouten - Bug 778367: Minimize intermediate surface size. r=jrmuizel
2608. # [19:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b36ff62f95b3 - Bas Schouten - Bug 776793: Properly create an opaque surface when copying in the background. r=joedrew
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2611. # [19:30] <bdahl> ttaubert: gaia is also downstream of pdf.js
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2613. # [19:31] <ttaubert> bdahl: sorry I'm really new to the project. so what does that mean? the fix should be landed in the pdf.js repo and we'll pull it from there for b2g?
2614. # [19:31] <bdahl> ttaubert: yup
2615. # [19:31] <Waldo> derf: or in a configure script that's looked at even less than any header :-)
2616. # [19:32] <ttaubert> bdahl: but... asyncStorage is only provided by a custom gaia library. how's that supposed to work?
2617. # [19:32] <derf> Waldo: Sure, I just meant if you didn't want to apply it to the whole project.
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2619. # [19:33] <bdahl> ttaubert: we have a preprocessor with a B2G flag so either use that or maybe do some type of feature detection
2620. # [19:33] <Waldo> derf: this warning, I think we do, because it's a warning that MSVC 2005 (!) changed behavior from non-standards-conforming to standards-conforming in one case
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2622. # [19:33] <@bz> hmm
2623. # [19:33] <Waldo> which is just crazytalk
2624. # [19:33] <bdahl> ttaubert: see https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/blob/master/web/viewer.html#L72
2625. # [19:33] <ttaubert> bdahl: ok and you think they're going to accept that? :)
2626. # [19:33] <@bz> is there a good way to generate single-color png data: URIs?
2627. # [19:34] <ttaubert> bdahl: I see
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2629. # [19:34] <Waldo> (although their docs for the warning don't mention anything about standards compliance, of course, because SAVE FACE)
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2632. # [19:34] <Waldo> and/or "what standards?"
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2635. # [19:35] <ttaubert> bdahl: I heard there will probably also be some interface changes to the viewer because that's not really usable on mobile. is that work also done in the upstream repo?
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2641. # [19:36] <bdahl> ttaubert: yes, that's the initial plan. if things diverge too much we'll consider branching the b2g viewer
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2643. # [19:37] <ttaubert> bdahl: ok, thank you for the clarification. last question: is there anyway I can clone the pdf.js repo and "put" it in my gaia checkout to see if it works?
2644. # [19:37] <ttaubert> *any way
2645. # [19:37] <lmandel> robcee: Has your work to integrate BenWa's profiler into dev tools landed?
2646. # [19:38] <robcee> lmandel: not landed, in a bug
2647. # [19:38] <robcee> I'll have more about that a little later this week
2648. # [19:38] <lmandel> robcee: Do you have a bug number handy?
2649. # [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc505740ad56 - Chris Peterson - Bug 778980 - Part 5: Treat gcc -Wconversion-null warnings as errors. r=bsmedberg
2650. # [19:38] <BenWa> lmandel: bug 795268
2651. # [19:38] <robcee> lmandel: 795268
2652. # [19:38] <BenWa> I had it up already
2653. # [19:38] <robcee> so did I!
2654. # [19:38] * BenWa was wondering if we should track it for gaming :)
2655. # [19:39] <lmandel> thanks both
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2662. # [19:41] <bdahl> ttaubert: usually what i do is keep my pdf.js repo separate and just use a little script something like https://gist.github.com/3821444
2663. # [19:41] <bdahl> the important part being "node make b2g" and copying the build part into gaia
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2665. # [19:42] <bdahl> ttaubert: if you have anymore questions feel free to join #pdfjs
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2667. # [19:42] <ttaubert> bdahl: ok thank you. that should keep me busy for some time ;)
2668. # [19:42] <jcranmer> Waldo: I've done my research into what should be sufficient to enable char16_t on all platforms
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2675. # [19:43] <Optimizer> Any idea why doing gBrowser.selectedBrowser.QueryInterface(Ci.nsIFrameLoaderOwner).frameLoader.activateFrameEvent("MozAfterPaint", true) gives error ?
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2681. # [19:45] <mccr8> If I modify automation.py.in, what is the minimum rebuilding I need to do to have it use the updated version when I run a mochitest? Just doing make -C objdir/build didn't seem to be enough.
2682. # [19:46] <@gavin> mccr8: testing/mochitest
2683. # [19:47] <mccr8> thanks!
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2685. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/640a57ebab48 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 796019 - Make Marionette smarter about registering frame scripts, r=mdas, DONTBUILD(NPOTB)
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2687. # [19:49] <@smaug> Optimizer: in non OOP Firefox?
2688. # [19:49] <Optimizer> in normal Nightly
2689. # [19:49] <@smaug> activateFrameEvent is for OOP only
2690. # [19:50] <@smaug> I'm surprised you even try to use it
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2693. # [19:51] <Optimizer> :|
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2697. # [19:52] <@smaug> Optimizer: I mean, what are you trying to do?
2698. # [19:53] <Optimizer> trying to forward MozAfterPaint to one content window
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2700. # [19:53] <Optimizer> without switching the pref for it
2701. # [19:53] <@smaug> the documentation is pretty clear. "Activate event forwarding from client (remote frame) to parent."
2702. # [19:54] <Optimizer> yes, I didn't bother about the remote frame part :P
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2718. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/580f710a84e8 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 769145 - Part 4: Add search suggestions opt-in prompt. r=mfinkle
2719. # [20:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecaff73e5a63 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 769145 - Part 3: Add mSuggestionsEnabled boolean. r=mfinkle
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2729. # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbf94917f0ec - Justin Lebar - Bug 789392 - Allow mozapp frames to window.close() themselves. r=bz
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2733. # [20:11] <jwir3> gratz on flexbox landing, dholbert
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2735. # [20:11] <dholbert> jwir3, thanks! :D
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2737. # [20:11] <dholbert> jwir3, can't wait to have the "make it preffable" bug fixed so that we can start building it in nightlies
2738. # [20:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/944020af0206 - Wes Johnston - Bug 795013 - Only use */* filter if no extension or mimetype filters exist r=blassey
2739. # [20:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16bc4aa2f52f - Wes Johnston - Bug 795013 - Add semicolon to list of deliminators in extension list. r=blassey
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2742. # [20:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1b386c21158 - Wes Johnston - Bug 795053 - Add ability to unlock a profile from Java. r=blassey
2743. # [20:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4442534ceff2 - Wes Johnston - Bug 795013 - Fix check for filter masks in Android file picker. r=blassey
2744. # [20:12] <jwir3> dholbert: agreed. then maybe I can craft a flexbox website to try it out. :)
2745. # [20:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f39621ae2b96 - Wes Johnston - Bug 795053 - Always send the java profile to Gecko. r=mfinkle
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2747. # [20:12] <dholbert> jwir3, yayy! and file bugs :)
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2767. # [20:22] <@ehsan> dholbert: ping
2768. # [20:22] <dholbert> ehsan, pong
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2771. # [20:22] <@ehsan> dholbert: hey, not sure if you saw my earlier ping, do you think you can review bug 793880?
2772. # [20:23] <@ehsan> (trying to get it out of my queue asap :)
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2774. # [20:24] <dholbert> ehsan: ah, just noticed the pin but didn't see the body of the ping. :) sure, I'm comfortable reviewing that
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2777. # [20:24] <@ehsan> dholbert: cool, thanks, so I'll switch the request to you
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2781. # [20:24] <dholbert> ehsan, sounds good. (I'll get to it after the meeting)
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2783. # [20:25] <@ehsan> ty
2784. # [20:25] <dholbert> ehsan, (looks trivial, but want to be sure I'm not missing anything. :))
2785. # [20:25] <@ehsan> dholbert: sounds good
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2788. # [20:27] <biesi> hmm we use UINT32_MAX these days?
2789. # [20:27] <biesi> not PR_UINT32_MAX?
2790. # [20:27] <froydnj> biesi: yes
2791. # [20:27] <biesi> interesting
2792. # [20:28] <biesi> froydnj, is that MFBT? or where does it come from?
2793. # [20:28] <froydnj> biesi: mfbt/StandardInteger.h
2794. # [20:28] <biesi> oh, stdint
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2804. # [20:32] <NeilAway> jcranmer: ah, I just thought it might be helpful to do that as part of the switch, so that we don't keep having to write NS_LITERAL_STRING("").get() all over
2805. # [20:32] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
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2807. # [20:32] <jdm> ehsan: pongitypong
2808. # [20:32] <biesi> NeilAway, EmptyString()
2809. # [20:32] <@ehsan> jdm: so skimming over my bugmail, I saw that a bunch of stuff have r+ now
2810. # [20:32] <@ehsan> jdm: (pbchannelfail stuff)
2811. # [20:32] <NeilAway> biesi: sorry, I meant NS_LITERAL_STRING("your ascii string here").get()
2812. # [20:33] <jdm> ehsan: a couple do, yeah
2813. # [20:33] <biesi> oh ok
2814. # [20:33] <@ehsan> jdm: can you land the ones that are ready to go please?
2815. # [20:33] <jdm> will do
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2817. # [20:33] <@ehsan> jdm: I'm trying to get a sense of how much work is remaining
2818. # [20:33] <@ehsan> jdm: thank you
2819. # [20:33] <Optimizer> in per window PB ?
2820. # [20:33] <jdm> correct
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2823. # [20:34] <@ehsan> Optimizer: see bug pbngen for the broad overview
2824. # [20:35] <Optimizer> I know, I am following it :)
2825. # [20:35] <Optimizer> its a very big list
2826. # [20:35] <Optimizer> only dlbi has that big right now :P
2827. # [20:35] <vlad> ttaubert: sorry, had a meeting -- it's not directly triggered by the bug I'm working on (731974), it's just intermittent. It might even be totally unrelated, but if you're especting relayout or something to happen that would have been driven by the refresh driver before, it could easily be timing related
2828. # [20:35] * Optimizer or maybe gGC too
2829. # [20:35] <vlad> ttaubert: applying that patch is unlikely to trigger the bug for you, unless you run it many times and happen to hit the right timing situation
2830. # [20:36] <vlad> ttaubert: ehsan and I just didn't understand what the test was trying to do there, with the transition event callback -- it wasn't clear who was going to be causing the transitioned event to occur
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2832. # [20:36] <@ehsan> ttaubert: yeah it seemed to me that we need to do one more waitForTransition there
2833. # [20:36] <@ehsan> ttaubert: but I cannot really justify that
2834. # [20:36] <@ehsan> not beyond a mere hunch anyway
2835. # [20:37] <ttaubert> ok, need to take a closer look at that test again
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2837. # [20:38] <vlad> ehsan: or really, move the waitForTransition after the rearrange (though we may need to attach the event handler first or something?)
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2842. # [20:39] <@ehsan> yeah that could work as well
2843. # [20:39] <@ehsan> it all depends on what this test is really trying to do
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2847. # [20:40] <jcranmer> NeilAway: that's not practical at this point in time
2848. # [20:40] <jcranmer> unfortunately
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2851. # [20:42] <jcranmer> NeilAway: if we drop MSVC < 10 and g++ 4.4, and always compile with C++11 mode, we *might* be able to do that
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2853. # [20:44] <ddahl> hrmmm... anyone know why this is a 'syntax error': http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1854961
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2856. # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d66ee1da0348 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 740722: Wait until the user is idle before prompting to apply an update in B2G. r=fabrice
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2858. # [20:45] <robarnold> ddahl: does it need to be in quotes?
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2860. # [20:45] <ddahl> robarnold: hmm
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2862. # [20:45] <ddahl> robarnold: which part?
2863. # [20:45] <robarnold> the uuid
2864. # [20:45] <robarnold> uuid("...")
2865. # [20:46] <ddahl> robarnold: nope
2866. # [20:46] <fabrice> it should not
2867. # [20:46] <robarnold> capital letters?
2868. # [20:46] <ddahl> i was just looking at another idl and it is not
2869. # [20:46] * jimm-lunch is now known as jimm
2870. # [20:46] <ddahl> no, caps are not requirede
2871. # [20:47] <robarnold> do you have the right number of bytes in that uuid?
2872. # [20:47] <@smaug> you don't
2873. # [20:47] <robarnold> I think the last group is off by one
2874. # [20:47] <@smaug> the last part is wrong
2875. # [20:47] <@ehsan> wesj: red
2876. # [20:47] <ddahl> OH JEEZ
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2878. # [20:47] <jcranmer> as is the first group, it looks like
2879. # [20:48] <ddahl> I BLAME THIS THINKPAD
2880. # [20:48] <ddahl> AND XFCE
2881. # [20:48] <jcranmer> no, I can't count
2882. # [20:48] <ddahl> AND OTHER STUFF NOT ME
2883. # [20:48] <jcranmer> denial, the first stage
2884. # [20:48] <ddahl> robarnold: smaug: jcranmer: thanks for again showing me I am incapable of the details!:)
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2892. # [20:52] <wesj> ehsan: looking.... not sure what i did that would have caused this....
2893. # [20:52] <jhammel|lunch> ddahl: fwiw, i blame xfce too, just on principle ;)
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2901. # [20:55] <@ehsan> wesj: me neither
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2905. # [20:57] <wesj> ehsan: i'll back out the patch that touched nsAppRunner
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2909. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af956af641bc - Wes Johnston - backout c1b386c21158
2910. # [20:59] <msucan> hello
2911. # [20:59] <msucan> can anyone help me with some crashes?
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2914. # [21:00] <msucan> i have some patches and try pushes show bad breakage in mochitest-2, dom/plugins tests
2915. # [21:00] * jcranmer loves citing specifications
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2917. # [21:00] <msucan> even if i only touch the web console code and the js debugger
2918. # [21:00] <msucan> please see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=05ced770d518
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2921. # [21:01] <msucan> any hints, any tips would be very much appreciated
2922. # [21:02] <firebot> Check-in:
2923. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c15883431cbb - Jeff Walden - Bug 797049 - Disable C4351 as an MSVC warning about a change to be standards-compliant in MSVC2005 (!). Also sync up warning-disabling between configure.in and
2924. # [21:02] <msucan> the weird thing is: in mochitest-2 no test ever opens the web console, nor the js debugger. i cant reproduce the failures on my machine
2925. # [21:02] <firebot> js/src/configure.in, and add comments about the warnings being disabled. r=khuey
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2927. # [21:02] <Optimizer> what should be the component and produc for a bug relating to Windows 7 taskbar tab previews ?
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2930. # [21:03] <@khuey> Optimizer: Core::Widget: Win32
2931. # [21:04] <Optimizer> khuey: thanks :)
2932. # [21:04] <Optimizer> msucan: maybe its not your fault at all
2933. # [21:04] <Optimizer> try a run without your patch to check :)
2934. # [21:04] <msucan> i did
2935. # [21:04] <Optimizer> then ?
2936. # [21:04] <msucan> my patches cause those oranges, but i dont see why
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2938. # [21:06] <Optimizer> :|
2939. # [21:06] <jdm> msucan: if there are multiple patches, do they build and pass tests separately?
2940. # [21:06] <jdm> bisect as much as possible
2941. # [21:06] <msucan> jdm: yes
2942. # [21:06] <msucan> did that
2943. # [21:06] <Optimizer> msucan: that test is plugin test, may be that test is trying to dump something to web console
2944. # [21:07] <msucan> jdm: only part 5 causes troubles
2945. # [21:07] <jdm> oh, I see you posted a link
2946. # [21:07] <Optimizer> its testing for plugin fail, maybe dumping something to webconsole ? did you see the common file that fails ?
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2950. # [21:08] <msucan> jdm: part 5 only adds tests, and it doesn't make other changes. those tests run in mochitest-5, not in -2
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2952. # [21:08] <msucan> which is very weird
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2954. # [21:08] <jdm> huh, that sounds fun
2955. # [21:08] <jdm> msucan: my suggestion is to bisect the tests you add
2956. # [21:08] <msucan> exactly
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2958. # [21:09] <jdm> push one that disables half of them
2959. # [21:09] <jdm> etc.
2960. # [21:09] <msucan> jdm: removed all tests, but the most basic one
2961. # [21:09] <jdm> well then
2962. # [21:09] <msucan> even that one causes the problms
2963. # [21:09] <msucan> :)
2964. # [21:09] <jdm> so you did
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2968. # [21:10] <msucan> jdm: now i just did a push with the basic test simplified, lol
2969. # [21:10] <msucan> waiting for results, but really, this is ... troubling
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2973. # [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6991bc0778d - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 795227 - ParallelArray should check length range like Array (r=dvander)
2974. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1869aa32cba - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 795165 - Rewrite ParallelArray toString from recursive to iterative (r=dvander)
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2980. # [21:14] <jcranmer|studying_for_quals> Waldo: well, C doesn't mangle, so C-versus-C++ incompatibilities don't matter...
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2982. # [21:15] <Waldo> jcranmer|studying_for_quals: but it still matters for matching a call to a signature to call
2983. # [21:15] <Waldo> jcranmer|studying_for_quals: anyway, maybe it'll all work out
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2986. # [21:17] <Optimizer> only 3000 bugs remaining (I might not win after all)
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2997. # [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e4333af38a - Josh Matthews - Bug 792542 - Make CSP report channel respect the privacy status of the original request. r=sstamm
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2999. # [21:24] <jhammel|lunch> Optimizer: in your personal queue? ;)
3000. # [21:24] <Optimizer> noooo :D
3001. # [21:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/443e86103628 - Josh Matthews - Bug 792528 - Make the channel created to fetch CSS files for editing respect the privacy status of the originating document. r=dcamp
3002. # [21:24] <Optimizer> till 800000
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3005. # [21:27] <dholbert> bsmedberg, do you know if there's any reason to avoid NS_GetStaticAtom, in cases where we're just trying to match an arbitrary string against one or more known-to-be-static atoms?
3006. # [21:28] <dholbert> bsmedberg, I noticed that we hardly use it at all (most of the uses are from an SVG bug that I reviewed recently, and I wanted to be sure I was on the right track in recommending its use there :))
3007. # [21:29] <@smaug> dholbert: don't we use static atoms for nsGkAtoms
3008. # [21:29] <dholbert> bsmedberg, I'd expect it'd be a Good Thing to use (in place of do_GetAtom()) when possible, because if the provided string isn't something that you recognize, you just reject it instead of bothering to create an atom for it.
3009. # [21:29] <dholbert> smaug, correct, yeah -- those are all static
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3011. # [21:30] <dholbert> [motivation] I noticed a spot where I think a do_GetAtom() call could be replaced with NS_GetStaticAtom(), and I want to be sure I'm not crazy before I file a bug on that
3012. # [21:30] <@smaug> dholbert: so static atoms should be created only for known stuff
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3014. # [21:31] <dholbert> smaug, exactly. I'm talking about the restricted case where we're given an arbitrary string, and we want to see if it's one of a few known-to-be-static atoms
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3016. # [21:31] <dholbert> and if it's not, we don't care about it
3017. # [21:31] <@bz> so you just want to compare those atoms to the string?
3018. # [21:32] <@bz> without atomizing the string?
3019. # [21:33] <dholbert> yeah
3020. # [21:33] <@smaug> nsDependentAtomString
3021. # [21:33] <dholbert> smaug, no, that's the reverse of what I want
3022. # [21:33] <dholbert> I'm talking about cases where we already do do_GetAtom()
3023. # [21:34] <dholbert> ...but where I think we could swap it out for NS_GetStaticAtom (because we only check the generated atom against known-to-be-static atoms, and discard it if it doesn't match)
3024. # [21:34] <@smaug> ah, right
3025. # [21:34] <@smaug> ok, looks like NS_GetStaticAtom could work
3026. # [21:35] <dholbert> (I'd actually expect we'd have more than a few cases like that, and I'm surprised we don't use NS_GetStaticAtom more frequently)
3027. # [21:36] <@bz> hmm
3028. # [21:36] <@bz> so wait
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3030. # [21:36] <@bz> NS_GetStaticAtom will return an existing static atom if there is one, and null otherwise?
3031. # [21:36] <dholbert> correct
3032. # [21:36] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: pong?
3033. # [21:36] <dholbert> that's what its documentation says, at least
3034. # [21:36] <@bz> ah, interesting
3035. # [21:36] <@bz> very interesting
3036. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, you were backed out
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3042. # [21:38] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: noted.
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3047. # [21:40] <@bsmedberg> dholbert: well... I don't recall exactly. Most of our static atoms come from the compiled-in atom tables
3048. # [21:40] <@bsmedberg> dholbert: but if you have a string that you know is going to be in the table, I think it should be fine to get/make it a static atom
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3050. # [21:41] <dholbert> bsmedberg, ok, thanks
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3054. # [21:44] <@smaug> dholbert: but would it be any faster?
3055. # [21:45] <dholbert> smaug, in the case where it matches, no
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3057. # [21:45] <dholbert> smaug, but in the case where it doesn't match, you're saving yourself the time of generating an atom and inserting it into the atom table, only to remove it a little later
3058. # [21:45] <dholbert> smaug, (I think?)
3059. # [21:45] <@smaug> ah, right
3060. # [21:46] <@smaug> we should have generic HasAtom(nsAString&)
3061. # [21:46] <@smaug> or GetAtom()
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3063. # [21:48] <dholbert> yeah
3064. # [21:48] <dholbert> seems useful
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3066. # [21:49] <Optimizer> anyone with some knowledge on /dom/plugins/test/mochitest/<some 2 files>
3067. # [21:49] <Optimizer> ?
3068. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> Mm
3069. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> jst?
3070. # [21:50] <Optimizer> there are some weird test failure messages
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3072. # [21:51] <Reg2sm> Hey guys, I'm new here
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3074. # [21:51] <jhammel> Reg2sm: thank dog
3075. # [21:51] <nemo> hm. only 13% of users visiting our website use IE. Yay. So, the number of people who won't be able to load the emscripten crosscompile eventually should be pretty low.
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3077. # [21:52] <nemo> still about 10% on Opera and Safari, but the situation there should improve eventually
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3086. # [21:56] <Optimizer> there are some weird test failure messages regarding test_crashing.html and test_hanging.html
3087. # [21:56] <Optimizer> first one says expecting dumps , but did not find any, second says didn't expect dumps but found some
3088. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6f8b964ca27 - Steven Michaud - Bug 785667 - Make plugins work with HiDPI mode on the Mac. r=bgirard
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3092. # [22:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f63b7f854ce4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 793880 - Fix the assertion in nsCSSSelector::SetPseudoType to shut up the compiler warning; r=dholbert
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3098. # [22:05] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: did you mean that jst might know of those test files ?
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3100. # [22:06] <Ms2ger> Possibly
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3120. # [22:15] <firebot> jfkthame was last seen 4 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying 'digitsm: i've cleared the "review" flag there - that would be for requesting review of a proposed patch - but i'll take a look at the fonts soon and see what's going on with
3121. # [22:15] <firebot> them' in #mobile.
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3133. # [22:21] <hwine> jlebar|away: ehsan fox2mike - just seeing the traffic on bug 691459 - we have that running with historical data
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3136. # [22:21] <@ehsan> hwine: good, where is the data available?
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3139. # [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5a3c148545c - Brian Nicholson - Backout 580f710a84e8, ecaff73e5a63 for rc failures
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3141. # [22:23] <hwine> ehsan: it's hidden deep on a box in the infra - I'll update the google doc that charts it and post the link
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3151. # [22:27] <hwine> ehsan: bah, I've got more data than google docs likes - how many months do you want?
3152. # [22:27] <@ehsan> hwine: I don't need that data myself!
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3154. # [22:28] <hwine> right - I meant to post into the google doc you can see the trend then
3155. # [22:28] <hwine> So, sounds like since Sept 1 would be enough
3156. # [22:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1646acf98b3 - Wes Johnston - Bug 784887 - Use Native Gesture detector for MozGesture events. r=blassey
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3159. # [22:29] <gkw> sewardj: ping
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3161. # [22:30] <@ehsan> hwine: I'm not sure. you should ask the people who will want to consume that data
3162. # [22:31] <hwine> ehsan: okay, this sounds like it's more jlebar|away then - I'll leave him a note. Thanks!
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3164. # [22:32] <@ehsan> gps: you around?
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3183. # [22:48] <@smaug> glandium: I wonder what we could do to CC participants to make that code hackable again
3184. # [22:48] <@smaug> and not causing static initializers
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3187. # [22:48] <@ehsan> do we have well a canonical thing which gives us good operator bool()s?
3188. # [22:49] <@ehsan> ones that do not turn into integers where we don't want them to?
3189. # [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfe50b46ef8c - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 794102 - checkInstalled should return an app object. r=felipc
3190. # [22:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/009636eb08df - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
3191. # [22:49] <glandium> smaug: how non-hackable is it?
3192. # [22:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b1ff56c95ae - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 783987 - Test suite without hostile promises. r=Mossop
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3194. # [22:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/640a57ebab48 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 796019 - Make Marionette smarter about registering frame scripts, r=mdas, DONTBUILD(NPOTB)
3195. # [22:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64c541e0b054 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 795867 - XHR getResponseHeader() should inflate the value. r=bz
3196. # [22:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/346d0973ad0f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 795662 - Update libpng to version 1.5.13. r=joe
3197. # [22:49] <@smaug> glandium: when I want to change something, takes always an hour to understand the thing again
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3200. # [22:53] <glandium> smaug: it's not fundamentally different, though
3201. # [22:53] <glandium> smaug: can we talk about this tomorrow?
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3203. # [22:54] <@smaug> yup
3204. # [22:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40aee4aca350 - David Anderson - Fix buggy interactions between IC patching and invalidation (bug 793165 part 2, r=jandem).
3205. # [22:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9bfd6c420eba - David Anderson - Clean up IonScript privacy (bug 793165 part 1, r=jandem).
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3207. # [22:56] <nemo> *sigh* why can't wireless cameras write web interfaces that don't require activex ? :(
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3209. # [22:57] <nemo> so tired of IE only when searching for one to buy as a baby monitor
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3212. # [22:57] <vlad> is there any way to have a css rule that refers to a parent element's width? basically "I want this fixed-position element to resize itself according to the width of another element"
3213. # [22:57] <nemo> I mean, there are plenty of cross-browser ones if you don't need audio, or decent video
3214. # [22:57] <vlad> nemo: are they IE-only, or are they Java?
3215. # [22:57] <nemo> vlad: width: 100%; ? :)
3216. # [22:58] <nemo> vlad: activex controls. lameness
3217. # [22:58] <nemo> maybe korean coders ;)
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3219. # [22:59] <Mook_as> nemo: because they're all actually using the _same_ activex control; they didn't write anything :p
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3221. # [22:59] <Standard8> glandium: ping
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3223. # [23:00] <nemo> vlad: oh. position fixed
3224. # [23:00] <@bz> vlad: parent element, no
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3229. # [23:02] <Standard8> glandium: nm, worked it out
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3254. # [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b1684a374f72 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 797093 - Fix running mochitests through mach; r=gps
3255. # [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7949d28f958f - David Keeler - Bug 793338 - Implement blocklist click-to-play plugin notification popup UI. r=jaws
3256. # [23:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/644aac25b7ab - David Keeler - Bug 754472 - Implement multiple plugin click-to-play UI. r=jaws r=margaret r=dietrich
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3266. # [23:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00398627cfef - Irving Reid - Bug 796086 - Add handlers for Objective-C exceptions, r=smichaud
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3269. # [23:23] <@bz> ugh
3270. # [23:23] <@bz> apparently printing does not work on trunk? :(
3271. # [23:24] <jhammel> well if you mean click on print preview seems to mean firefox that seems accurate :/
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3274. # [23:24] <jhammel> er, s/mean/hang/
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3280. # [23:25] <@bz> jhammel: I tried to open print preview in Preview
3281. # [23:25] <@bz> jhammel: but yes, hangs firefox
3282. # [23:25] <@bz> jhammel: you on Mac?
3283. # [23:25] <jhammel> bz: nope, linux
3284. # [23:25] <@bz> interesting
3285. # [23:26] <@bz> maybe this is not the hidpi thing then
3286. # [23:26] <jhammel> i don't actually have a printer hooked up but...
3287. # [23:26] <@bz> maybe it's dlbi
3288. # [23:26] <@bz> ok
3289. # [23:26] * @bz cries
3290. # [23:26] <jhammel> :(
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3294. # [23:26] <@bz> thanks
3295. # [23:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0ee436cc856 - Benoit Girard - bug 795310 - Uninitialised value use in mozilla::layers::BasicTiledThebesLayer::PaintThebes r=cwiiis
3296. # [23:26] * @bz uses Chrome instead
3297. # [23:26] <jhammel> its sure doing something with CPU though
3298. # [23:27] * jhammel goes back to editing text files and hopes the fox rises from the grave
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3302. # [23:29] <@smaug> bz: oh, didn't roc land the patch to fix that
3303. # [23:29] <@smaug> bdahl: do you know
3304. # [23:30] <bhearsum> joe: you just made me crash again! i hope your fix gets in the next nightly
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3306. # [23:30] <@bz> smaug: dunno
3307. # [23:30] <@bz> smaug: bug#?
3308. # [23:30] <@smaug> bz: Bug 794579
3309. # [23:30] <@smaug> someone should just land the patch
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3314. # [23:32] <biesi> fun times:
3315. # [23:32] <biesi> > * On my Linux system (and probably others), <stdint.h> does not explicitly
3316. # [23:32] <biesi> > set some of its UINTn_MAX [1] constants as unsigned
3317. # [23:32] <@bz> smaug: Hrm
3318. # [23:33] <@bz> smaug: well, I can't right now, but maybe tonight!
3319. # [23:33] <@smaug> hmm, perhaps I could
3320. # [23:33] <bdahl> bz: was it a pdf you were trying to print preview?
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3322. # [23:34] <@bz> bdahl: google maps directions+map
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3324. # [23:34] <bdahl> ah okay, good, should be that bug then
3325. # [23:35] <jhammel> i was just doing an arbitrary page, not a pdf though
3326. # [23:35] <jhammel> (not a google map either)
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3328. # [23:35] <jhammel> probably viewing bug 797101 if my title bar is to be believed
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3330. # [23:36] * @smaug lands the patch
3331. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b9bf8702da4 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 794579. Remove view from existing parent before setting it as the root view. r=tnikkel
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3334. # [23:38] <@smaug> or I didn't :)
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3336. # [23:39] <froydnj> apparently R.java has decided it's Burn The Tree Day
3337. # [23:39] <wlach> I just accidentally made bug 797137 security sensitive. can somebody with privileges unset that tag?
3338. # [23:39] * jlebar|away is now known as jlebar
3339. # [23:39] <@smaug> wlach: lookin
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3341. # [23:39] <@smaug> g
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3343. # [23:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95c8501bbefb - Ehsan Akhgari - Silence two more clang unused-private-field warnings in the IonMonkey code; no bug, irc-r=dvander
3344. # [23:39] <jlebar> hwine, I don't want to consume the data either, myself. If you guys are collecting the data and watching it, then let's close the bug!
3345. # [23:40] <@smaug> wlach: done
3346. # [23:40] <wlach> smaug: ty!
3347. # [23:40] <@smaug> tn: thanks
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3349. # [23:41] <tn> smaug, oh heh, i didn't see the conversation in here, just saw the bugmail :)
3350. # [23:41] <philor> did we actually make it through yesterday without an inbound closure, making it one day this week?
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3352. # [23:41] <@smaug> tn: I had the patch commited to my local tree already
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3354. # [23:41] <@smaug> and would have pushed it in a minute
3355. # [23:42] <hwine> jlebar: it's not being watched - last pass through this analysis, it was deemed not that useful - I just happened to leave things running. The issue was what we could measure did not match developer's experience. Are you saying things are wonderful today compared to yesterday? :)
3356. # [23:43] <jlebar> hwine, It didn't match devs' experience why? Is it doing basically what I posted in the bug?
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3359. # [23:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e91cd2b1d643 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 40aee4aca350 and 9bfd6c420eba (bug 793165) for Android build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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3362. # [23:45] <hwine> jlebar: the times we would measure implied better performance than devs reported.
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3364. # [23:45] <hwine> jlebar: take a look at the data, and see if that matches (trend wise) your experience. (links in the bug)
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3369. # [23:47] <jlebar> hwine, Will look, although I honestly don't remember when things were bad. Maybe I can do some bugzilla archeology.
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3372. # [23:49] <@smaug> jlebar: bad with try?
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3374. # [23:50] <jlebar> smaug, Not these days, just talking about monitoring.
3375. # [23:50] <@smaug> ah
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3378. # [23:50] <jlebar> smaug, And if try /were/ being bad, I wouldn't dare say anything publicly, for fear that everyone would try to push before the impending apocalypse, thus causing, well, you know... :)
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3380. # [23:50] <nbp> I have a problem running the mochi.test:8888, the server answer correctly on 127.0.0.1:8888, but the browser cannot access mochi.test:8888, what is supposed to convert one into the other ?
3381. # [23:51] <jhammel> some sort of proxy magic thingy
3382. # [23:51] <jhammel> </answer:vague>
3383. # [23:52] <@smaug> you could check FF's proxy settings when running mochitests
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3385. # [23:55] <nbp> smaug: I have something in automatic proxy starting with a data:text/plain and some JS.
3386. # [23:55] <@smaug> yup, that is the thing
3387. # [23:55] <@smaug> nbp: are you trying to run mochitests in some other browser?
3388. # [23:56] <@smaug> or other FF instance
3389. # [23:56] <nbp> smaug: no, on the debug build.
3390. # [23:56] * jammink is now known as jammink|headsdown
3391. # [23:56] <nbp> smaug: the one I just made.
3392. # [23:56] * Joins: valenting (Thunderbir@moz-85EBB8A.dia.static.qwest.net)
3393. # [23:56] <@smaug> oh, then things should just work
3394. # [23:56] <nbp> smaug: I am trying to reproduce a mochitest failure locally, without succes.
3395. # [23:56] * jammink|headsdown is now known as jammink|afk
3396. # [23:56] <nbp> smaug: do you know where the file is, such as I can try it.
3397. # [23:57] <nbp> smaug: the file containing this automatic proxy.
3398. # [23:57] <@smaug> what file?
3399. # [23:57] <@smaug> it is the data:text/plain ....
3400. # [23:57] <hwine> jlebar: ah - okay - I saw the sudden flurry of activity on the bug and thought their might be issues. Good to know there aren't any :)
3401. # [23:57] <@smaug> it is data: url
3402. # [23:58] <philor> 199 unstarred, come on inbound, you can hit 200
3403. # [23:58] * armenzg is now known as armenzg_away
3404. # [23:58] * Quits: joe_walker (joe_walker@moz-5B263CE9.cable.virginmedia.com) (Input/output error)
3405. # [23:59] * catlee is now known as catlee-away
3406. # [23:59] <jlebar> hwine, No; it was just mentioned on the newsgroup. Perhaps by me. :)
3407. # Session Close: Wed Oct 03 00:00:01 2012

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