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# [00:03] <froydnj> wow, android orange
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# [00:16] <philor> jlebar: got any feeling about who I can pin these fresh assertions in test_browserElement_oop_CloseFromOpener.html on?
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# [00:17] <jlebar> philor, You mean, other than me?
# [00:17] <philor> of course I thought of you first
# [00:18] <jlebar> philor, Ah, it's random, right?
# [00:18] <philor> oh, heh, that's the one you landed today, isn't it?
# [00:18] <philor> mmm, no, it's not today's
# [00:18] <jlebar> philor, You mean, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=bbf94917f0ec ?
# [00:19] <philor> hard to say about intermittent, it's during the North American day, so it takes quite a while to tell intermittent from coalesced
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# [00:20] <philor> linux32 debug m2, looks like about 50% failure
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# [00:20] <jlebar> philor, Yeah. That would explain why I didn't see it when I re-pushed to try.
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# [00:21] <philor> and since you didn't even get a build, minimum 2 hours to retrigger
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# [00:21] <jlebar> philor, If you want to re-trigger, you can use my try build.
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# [00:21] <jlebar> philor, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=98b0fc70e159
# [00:22] <philor> ah, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15752430&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - 10.7 can hit it too
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# [00:23] <jlebar> philor, Or you can back me out, which is fine with me. I do not get why this patch would cause that failure, but it does seem quite likely to be me, at this point.
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# [00:24] <philor> yeah, I can back you out in about 5 hours
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# [00:24] <jlebar> I guess I can back me out.
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# [00:26] <philor> stay in if you want, that's a tiny failure rate compared to tilt, it's more like 80% of linux opt browser-chrome
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# [00:26] <philor> I don't think there's any tests in mochitest-2 that I actually care about
# [00:26] <jlebar> lol
# [00:27] <philor> the benefit of the fact that we have absolutely no sheriff for inbound during the North American day is that we have absolutely no sheriff for inbound during the North American day
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# [00:29] <philor> jlebar: don't forget the CLOSED TREE in the -m
# [00:30] <jlebar> philor, thanks.
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# [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e4866b959fc - Justin Lebar - Back out bbf94917f0ec (bug 789392) on strong suspicion of causing assertions in debug mochitest-2 on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [00:35] <philor> thanks
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# [00:39] <WG9s> philor: is the comment on inbound supposed to partially a joke?
# [00:40] <WG9s> the green on all android test suites part I mean.
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# [00:43] <philor> WG9s: oddly, no - I don't insist that it be all-green first run, but we've had plenty of all-green Android runs lately, even all-green across all three builds
# [00:44] <philor> randomly from what's in front of me, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=6b900e03eb58
# [00:44] <philor> now, "more than 50% of desktop mochitest-other green the first time," that would be a joke
# [00:45] <WG9s> so kind of a if we canmake an android test be green with a samllnumber of retriggers that is ok?
# [00:46] <WG9s> and would be esp good if the orange onces closely matched a random orange bug?
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# [00:49] <philor> nah, matching a bug doesn't count for much with Android, you can easily star "the browser doesn't start at all," and I have
# [00:50] <philor> I probably starred half the start of this episode
# [00:50] <WG9s> well I tried to cover that by using the phrase "close match"
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# [00:52] <cpeterson> I have some test code that I only want to run on unofficial, Nightly, and Aurora channels. Is there an appropriate compile-time or run-time check I can use?
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# [00:54] <bhearsum> you might want to see how the Feedback/Test Pilot addon does it, i think they do something similar....
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# [00:54] <bhearsum> one sec, let me see if i can dig that up
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# [00:55] <bhearsum> cpeterson: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/app/profile/extensions/Makefile.in#21
# [00:55] <cpeterson> thanks, bhearsum!
# [00:55] <bhearsum> note that doing that will end up with you not compiling for on-change builds though...
# [00:55] <bhearsum> or project branches
# [00:56] <cpeterson> bhearsum, because they have no channel?
# [00:56] <bhearsum> yeah, it'll be set to "default"
# [00:56] <bhearsum> and some project branches have their own update channel
# [00:56] <bhearsum> you might be better off blacklisting "beta", "release", and "*esr*" (i dunno if you can glob in that sort of construct though)
# [00:57] <cpeterson> thanks. I'll test that out
# [00:57] <bhearsum> yw
# [00:57] <jhammel> known? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15753331&tree=Try&full=1
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# [00:58] <bhearsum> jhammel: urgh
# [00:58] <bhearsum> i saw an alert about ftp.m.o in the past hour
# [00:58] <jhammel> i'll take that as a no
# [00:58] <bhearsum> i think it's getting buried a bit from the two betas that are in progress
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# [00:58] <bhearsum> a rebuild should be ok though
# [00:58] <jhammel> bhearsum: cool, thanks
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# [01:03] <jhammel> jgriffin: is this your baby? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/mobile/b2gautomation.py
# [01:03] <jgriffin> I suppose so
# [01:03] <jhammel> heh
# [01:03] <jhammel> jgriffin: so you know what i'm going to say about this line: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/mobile/b2gautomation.py#35 ;)
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# [01:04] <jhammel> i really wish mxr let you comment on lines and magically make bugs out of them
# [01:05] <jgriffin> heh
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# [01:07] <jhammel> beh, wrong channel
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# [01:10] <efaust> vladan: ping?
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# [01:15] <philor> fun, this should be an easy begging
# [01:15] <philor> anybody got an esr10 tree handy to do a backout?
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# [01:17] <Callek> philor I don't, but I can pull a copy from a m-release clone and push selectively if needed
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# [01:20] <Callek> philor: ok, my tree is pulled, what needs backing out
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# [01:20] <Callek> philor: 750307 ?
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# [01:21] * Callek looks at tbpl, which agrees
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# [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/965f6dc789be - Gary Kwong - Bug 696305 - Remove suppressions that were commented out since they did not show up again and their original bug reports had stacks with no line numbers. DONTBUILD
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# [01:30] <Callek> philor: could the sudden re-emergence of 784278 be related to code changes, in your opinion?
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# [01:33] <philor> Callek: doesn't look like it, but it could be code changes, or a moth in the room, or someone's radioactive chunk of asteroid
# [01:34] <jhammel> ooh! that's mine!
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# [01:34] <Callek> jhammel: thanks, it was causing reftest fails
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# [01:35] * philor gives up on the Try hook battle
# [01:35] <jhammel> i can understand that; Pu 238 is quite unstable
# [01:35] <philor> forge ahead! 23 hours and 45 minutes is more than enough time to gather consensus
# [01:36] <philor> screw talking to people, that's why hg hooks are for!
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# [01:36] * WG9s wonders what the relationship is between asteroid and hemorrhoid. ;-)
# [01:36] <philor> whoever that was who said "or I could just switch to a company that wants its developers to be able to get work done"++
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# [01:37] <jhammel> WG9s: they're both rhomboids, iirc
# [01:38] <Callek> philor: esr backout landed, commented in bug -- leaving starring to you
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# [01:41] <Callek> philor: I agree with the assertion re: 23 hours is not enough -- and I commented to that affet ;-)
# [01:42] <Waldo> ehsan: the canonical way to have an operator bool that won't work in math contexts is something like ConvertibleToBool, see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=convertibletobool
# [01:43] <@ehsan> hmm
# [01:43] <@ehsan> Waldo: that seems to be defined ad hoc
# [01:43] <@ehsan> right?
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# [01:46] <philor> Callek: thanks, I think I can figure a way to defeat jQuery and star it, if I can get control over my browser again
# [01:47] <Waldo> ehsan: yes, more or less -- basically you just want operator PointerType()
# [01:47] * Waldo isn't sure just how far this pattern could be consolidated/rigorized
# [01:47] <Waldo> supposed I should steal ideas from wtf, sec
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# [01:48] <NeilAway> dholbert: when do we get to switch xul over to flexbox?
# [01:49] <Waldo> wtf uses UnspecifiedBoolType, ad-hoc'd various places
# [01:50] <dholbert> NeilAway, I suspect it'll likely be more piece-by-piece rewrites rather than a massive switchover, but you can start now if you like :)
# [01:50] <@ehsan> Waldo: sigh... ok
# [01:50] <@ehsan> I'll just do that
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# [01:51] <Waldo> it's a bit unfortunate C++ doesn't make this nicer
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# [01:51] <Waldo> I know C++11 lets you make operators explicit; maybe that would solve this problem
# [01:52] <Waldo> ehsan: ^ you tested that, for giggles?
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# [01:52] <@ehsan> Waldo: explicit ops? no I didn't test that
# [01:52] <Waldo> not like we could use it -- unless existing compilers just ignore the extra keyword, and it only has effect in C++11 mode -- but still worth knowing for some distant future
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# [01:53] <Waldo> I guess we don't compile enough in C++11 mode yet to get the benefit/win out of it yet, if it were ignored by non-C++11 compiling
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# [01:53] <jcranmer> ehsan: wouldn't a deleted operator int() work just as well?
# [01:54] <Waldo> you'd have to delete every integer type, I think
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# [01:54] <@ehsan> yes
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# [01:54] <Waldo> and that's impossible given that compilers can have arbitrary numbers of integer types, even non-standard ones
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# [01:54] <Waldo> and some of those types might be typedefs in some compilers but not others
# [01:55] <@ehsan> Waldo: so http://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/C++0xCompilerSupport tells me no android and no windows
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# [01:55] <Waldo> so, "awhile" then :-)
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# [01:56] <jcranmer> Waldo: heh, I tested just deleting operator int
# [01:56] <jcranmer> it's actually fun
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# [01:56] <jcranmer> it errors due to the ambiguous result of operator ==
# [01:57] <Waldo> hm, yes, because overload resolution would hit before deletion would take effect (if it even took effect, versus becoming a linker error if delete isn't supported)
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# [02:04] <jcranmer> here's one
# [02:05] <jcranmer> template <typename T> operator T() = delete;
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# [02:15] <Waldo> luke: take a look at bug 797148?
# [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e679d2e1d02d - Matt Woodrow - Bug 796183 - Always invalidate the widget when doing empty transactions with a LayerManager. r=roc
# [02:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0c23e26472bb - Matt Woodrow - Bug 795899 - Remove merged frame handling in BuildContainerLayerFor. r=roc
# [02:16] <luke> Waldo: ?
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# [02:16] <Waldo> luke: last comment in it
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# [02:17] <luke> Waldo: oh, heh, i clicked the firebot link; it was unrelated
# [02:17] <Waldo> lulz, as they say
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# [02:20] <philor> inbound's open
# [02:21] <Waldo> philor: you sure it's wise to give us the keys back after what happened to the last car you let us drive?
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# [02:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/531b6090f45e - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 795687 - Move all of OS.File to typed arrays instead of array buffers. r=froydnj
# [02:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb1751609d90 - Dave Hylands - Bug 797174 - dom.ipc.processPrelauch is misspelled
# [02:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2d3a2496dc9 - vliu - Bug 793073 - B2G RIL: Quickly tapping Airplane Mode causes phone keeping in Emergency Calls Only. r=philikon
# [02:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09a1c6254392 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 788598 - Logged out state has no login. r=jaws
# [02:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3afaf5133bec - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 795544 - Test updates. r=bz
# [02:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bcb5f9359d8 - Gene Lian - Bug 793970 - Reuse nsAppStartup's watchdog to compulsively power-off/reboot/quit Gecko if profile synchronizing hangs. r=cjones
# [02:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcbe63ccf09b - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 753237 - Implement DrawTargetCairo::Mask(). r=joe
# [02:26] * Waldo wonders whither RyanVM, if he's pushing stuffs to try
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# [02:26] <philor> he's pushing stuff to inbound, too
# [02:27] <philor> could be just projecting, but I figured he's just tired of talking, and running silent for a while
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# [02:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67ddd50e1149 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 796568 - cleanup in nsLayoutUtils: remove unnecessary "mozilla::" namespace prefix and convert some NULL to nullptr. r=mats
# [02:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e474cc38930b - Daniel Holbert - Bug 797117: Explicitly cast UINT16_MAX to uint32_t in comparison within nsSocketTransportService::DoPollIteration(), to prevent it from being treated as signed and
# [02:31] <firebot> causing a build warning. r=ehsan
# [02:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e0bf7bccc18 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 796937 - Deploy new clang package with output order fixes. r=rail.
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# [02:44] <nemo> http://updates.html5rocks.com/2012/09/Stacking-Changes-Coming-to-position-fixed-elements#comments did you guys ever get a response to your comments here?
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# [02:45] <dholbert> nemo, yeah, the blog's been updated
# [02:45] <dholbert> nemo, see "Updated Oct 1, 2012" at the bottom
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# [02:52] <nemo> dholbert: well. no mention of roc's comment in the update
# [02:52] * nemo shrugs
# [02:52] <nemo> dholbert: I was more wondering if chrome was going to bull through on this
# [02:53] <nemo> #css folks on freenode, not fans
# [02:53] <@roc> nemo: if people are against it, please ask them to comment on www-style
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# [02:54] <@roc> there's a thread on there
# [02:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/513dcaaf9cab - Ehsan Akhgari - Remove the unused DatabaseTester::mState field; no bug
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# [03:10] <mattwoodrow> philor: ping
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# [03:10] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: looks like bug 796183 may be causing osx issues
# [03:10] <RyanVM> we'll see what the re-trigger does
# [03:10] <mattwoodrow> that's what I was ping'ing about
# [03:10] <mattwoodrow> so that's not a known failure? seems bizarre
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# [03:11] <mattwoodrow> especially since it passed on 10.6/8
# [03:11] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: I'd need to see screenshots
# [03:12] <RyanVM> is it the pink pixel of death bug by chance?
# [03:12] <mattwoodrow> It is!
# [03:12] <RyanVM> ok then
# [03:12] <RyanVM> yes, known issue :)
# [03:12] <mattwoodrow> does it always happen on the same slave?
# [03:12] <mattwoodrow> I'd be guessing at a hardware issue
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# [03:14] <philor> RyanVM: can't remember if I cc'ed you on it, but I filed the pink pixel, for that very reason
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# [03:15] <philor> which you know, since you were there 3 minutes ago :)
# [03:15] <mattwoodrow> talos-r4-lion-063 2/2
# [03:16] <RyanVM> heh
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# [03:19] <philor> is pink 1 bit away from white?
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# [03:20] <mattwoodrow> philor: it is indeed
# [03:21] <mattwoodrow> red and blue channels are all 1's, green is 10111111
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# [03:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/deb340fb0b07 - Justin Lebar - Bug 788021 - Part 2: Add and implement nsIMemoryReporter::DumpMemoryReportsToFile. r=njn,cjones
# [03:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bab50a5494bb - Justin Lebar - Bug 788021 - Part 1: Add nsGZFileWriter. r=bsmedberg
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# [03:33] <njn> jlebar: fingers crossed
# [03:33] <@khuey> heh
# [03:33] <jlebar> njn, It's green on Linux, and had a green m-i run elsewhere, so I'm optimistic.
# [03:33] <njn> jlebar: what could possibly go wrong?
# [03:33] <jlebar> erstwhile?
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# [03:34] <jlebar> Yeah, s/elsewhere/erstwhile/. :)
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# [03:38] <jlebar> "From our point of view, it's impossible to tell "long-running work" apart from 'will never terminate' work."
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# [03:38] <jlebar> When bz says "impossible", he really means it. :)
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# [03:40] <njn> more so than just about anyone else I know
# [03:41] <jlebar> People do not usually mean impossible when they say "impossible", so this case stuck out at me.
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# [03:45] <felipe> has anyone already seen a bug filed about today's low fps on youtube videos? (on mac)
# [03:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acf91f25f228 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 796119 - part 2: don't #include prtypes.h in xpcom/ unless absolutely necessary; r=ehsan
# [03:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0ba1abde985 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 797106 - don't use PR_BYTES_PER_WORD in nsTextFragment*.cpp; r=ehsan
# [03:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e38c5518605 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 796119 - part 1: don't use PR_BIT in pldhash.h; r=ehsan
# [03:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc59bd8d49ba - Nathan Froyd - Bug 796279 - remove remaining PR_MAX instances from the tree; r=ehsan
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# [03:46] <mattwoodrow> felipe: bug 796183, fixed on m-c
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# [03:47] <felipe> mattwoodrow: thanks!
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# [04:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c779b27a9ce - Wes Johnston - Bug 797151 - Use Froyo api for saving SharedPrefereces. r=mfinkle
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# [04:15] <@khuey> god damn it
# [04:15] <@khuey> first wes, then mfinkle
# [04:16] <mfinkle> khuey: ?
# [04:16] <@khuey> I lost two push races to m-i
# [04:16] <mfinkle> lol
# [04:16] <@khuey> in a row
# [04:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1797401e19ce - Kyle Huey - Bug 791731: Don't immediately discard image data in UnbindFromTree, instead rely on the discard timer. r=jlebar
# [04:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e04928c99aa - Kyle Huey - Bug 785248: Clear the worker's queue when terminating, even if we never ran any script. r=bent
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# [04:24] * RyanVM is glad he did an hg pull before hg qpushing or else he'd have lost a push race with hueybot
# [04:25] <KWierso|Home> I hate losing the push race
# [04:25] <KWierso|Home> especially since I just change one line in a single file
# [04:25] <@khuey> this is why I push on saturdays
# [04:26] <KWierso|Home> it's like not even worth remerging
# [04:27] <tbsaunde> yeah, I've been know to do git checkout master; git pull ; git checkout my_branch; git rebase master; git push inbound mybranch:master
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# [04:27] <froydnj> tbsaunde: save time by just fetching origin/master and rebasing to that!
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# [04:31] <@bz> amen
# [04:31] <@bz> except when I deal with servo
# [04:31] <@bz> and git is ok
# [04:31] <@bz> but github, good lord. :(
# [04:31] <@khuey> how's that going btw?
# [04:31] <@bz> middling
# [04:32] <@khuey> heh
# [04:32] <@bz> I'm trying to understand how the stuff in the codebase matches my understanding of rust
# [04:32] <@bz> which is based on the stuff on the web
# [04:32] <@bz> which is not exactly up to date
# [04:32] <@khuey> I see
# [04:32] * @bz also needs to sit down and write up his description of how Gecko and WebKit handle dynamic changes that lead to restyling
# [04:32] <@bz> and then design how we should do it in servo
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# [04:32] <@bz> I have some ideas, but the problem with not really knowing rust is I can't tell whether they're feasible. ;)
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# [04:33] <@khuey> mmm
# [04:33] <@khuey> fun
# [04:34] * Waldo suggests an unsafe block and raw pointer arithmetic
# [04:34] <Waldo> this isn't 6.001p1 where they forbid you to use scheme's sequential constructs ;-)
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# [04:36] <Waldo> \o/
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# [04:56] <@khuey> who banned Callek? :-P
# [04:56] <jcranmer> !
# [04:56] <ewong> ?????
# [04:57] <jcranmer> ⸘
# [04:58] <jesup> Question (ehsan, bsmedberg, maybe kyle, anyone): I don't see any standard/abstracted way to say a structure is packed. Right now I'm using:
# [04:58] <jesup> #if defined(__GNUC__) #define SCTP_PACKED __attribute__((packed)) #elif defined(_MSC_VER) #pragma pack (push, 1) #define SCTP_PACKED #else #error "Unsupported compiler" #endif
# [04:58] <jesup> I'm guessing this is ok (and if Unsupported compiler fires we'll fix it for whatever compiler that it).
# [04:58] <@ehsan> jesup: yeah should be fine
# [04:59] <jcranmer> don't you have to pop off for MSVC?
# [04:59] <jesup> Yeah, that's at the bottom of the file
# [04:59] <jesup> A DataChannelProtocol.h file
# [05:00] <jesup> ehsan: thanks
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# [05:11] <philor> my memory is now completely gone: I backed out a patch five days ago for hitting an assertion, and today had absolutely no memory of the exact same assertion for the exact same patch
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# [05:13] <Callek> philor: must install more RAM?
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# [05:15] <@dolske> jcranmer: wait, upsidedown interrobang‽
# [05:15] <jcranmer> no, it's a mutilated thresher
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# [05:16] <philor> ⸘Que‽
# [05:16] <@dolske> ⸘Que demonios‽
# [05:16] <@dolske> bah, too slow
# [05:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a742bf08f125 - Cameron Kaiser - Bug 718910 - Disable Spotlight on the cache directory on Mac; r=michal.novotny, f=smichaud,josh
# [05:16] <philor> E2 B8 98
# [05:16] <jcranmer> ☃
# [05:17] <philor> Inverted Bestthingever is the actual name
# [05:17] <nattokirai> is blog.mozilla.org down/under construction?
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# [05:18] <nattokirai> blog.mozilla.com/blogname doesn't exist anymore but blog.allizom.org does...
# [05:18] <nattokirai> bizarre
# [05:19] <@ehsan> froydnj: hmm seems like your push broke reftests somehow :/
# [05:20] <philor> only the 64 bit ones, though?
# [05:20] * @ehsan eyeballs https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0ba1abde985
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# [05:22] <@ehsan> hmm this is totally weird
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# [05:24] <@ehsan> froydnj: sorry, I can't think of why this is happening.. I'll back you out :/
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# [05:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61129bd6f268 - Gina Yeh - Bug 796829 - Final version: Destroy BluetoothScoManager instance while in shutdown, r=qdot
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# [05:45] <birtles> what approach are we taking to prefixes for new properties these days?
# [05:45] <birtles> for example, a contributor wants to write the parsing for CSS compositing (blend modes)--is it enough if he just hides it behind a pref?
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# [05:49] <aja> behind a pref til CR, i believe
# [05:49] <aja> recent WHATWG policy decision, iirc
# [05:50] <birtles> aja, cheers
# [05:51] <aja> cheers
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# [05:51] <philor> what does ./firefox -register actually do?
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# [05:54] <KWierso|Home> philor: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Command_Line_Options#-register_chrome_URL
# [05:56] <philor> but I've got a Firefox, not an XULRunner, and I've got no chrome_url, and I've got a command cargo-culted from probably somewhere between 1999 and 2002
# [05:57] <KWierso|Home> I got nothin
# [05:57] <philor> oh, I also have a demonstrated lack of ability to read, since that's not in the XULRunner section
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# [05:59] <aja> birtles: can't find decision, but discussion from F2F: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Aug/0894.html
# [06:01] <philor> and to be as weird as possible, it's actually firefox-bin -no-remote -profile (a path) http://localhost:8888/bloatcycle.html -register, so it's either trying to register an HTML page as a chrome URL but has dyslexia, or it thinks it'll open a web page despite not opening the app
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# [06:02] <birtles> aja, thanks. ok, I think I read those minutes once before but never quite made it to the end... the "consensus" part :)
# [06:03] <aja> fwiw, box just got changed back to -moz-box to comply
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# [06:05] <aja> and there's patches landing soon to impl flex behind a pref. can find bug # if u want
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# [06:07] <aja> Bug 796212 - Add pref to toggle flexbox support
# [06:07] <aja> birtles: ^
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# [06:43] <jesup> what's the minimum xcode version for mozilla currently?
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# [06:45] <KWierso|Home> jesup: mdn says 4.1
# [06:46] <KWierso|Home> jesup: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites#Software_Requirements
# [06:46] <jesup> link?
# [06:46] <jesup> thanks
# [06:46] <@dolske> bam
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# [06:52] <philor> mmm, http://bz.selenic.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3557
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# [07:04] <@dolske> "mass close old bugs"? 6 months?
# [07:04] <@dolske> sorry... 1 month?
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# [07:05] <gps> jesup: run the bootstrap script and it will ensure you have a new enough Xcode and toolchain to build the tree
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# [07:06] <philor> the best part, though, is RESOLVED FIXED
# [07:07] <Havvy> 1 month bugs that aren't fixed are fixed? :s
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# [07:07] <philor> just think how awesome our fixed stats would be if we closed every > 2 month old bug as fixed
# [07:08] <Havvy> Oh! April Fools idea! :P
# [07:08] <philor> "Firefox 19: Now with 400000 bugs fixed!"
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# [07:09] <Yoric> philor: That sounds very strange.
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# [07:10] <philor> I've noticed that other people's management of their bug database almost always is - fortunately, although ours was really weird when I started, after a few months it became completely normal and sensible
# [07:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9cc5f638610 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 796320 (part 1) - Remove dead JSRuntime::waiveGCQuota. r=luke.
# [07:10] <philor> I guess everything we do just happened to change right then
# [07:11] <derf> I noticed something very similar.
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# [07:14] <aja> heh...Psy doing Gangnam Style on Kimmel
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# [07:15] <njn> derf: that everything changed when philor started?
# [07:15] <derf> njn: I meant when I started.
# [07:15] <derf> Clearly this must have been the same time.
# [07:15] <derf> As nothing else makes sense.
# [07:16] <KWierso|Home> we change bugzilla management style for every new hire
# [07:16] <KWierso|Home> ./contributor
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# [07:18] <@dolske> recent discovery for me: our tools are amazing shitty and crappy... until you take a look at the alternatives, and then they suddenly look fucking amazing.
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# [07:22] <glob> dolske, heh, a sentiment i've heard more than once about bugzilla
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# [07:22] <glob> (that doesn't excuse bugzilla's shittyness though :( )
# [07:22] <@dolske> heh
# [07:23] <blassey> njn: ping?
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# [07:25] <njn> blassey: pong
# [07:25] <blassey> njn: just read your memshrink post
# [07:25] <blassey> you can copy and paste in fennec
# [07:25] <blassey> just did on about:memory
# [07:25] <njn> blassey: you can? huh, shows how much I know about fennec
# [07:26] <njn> blassey: can you c+p on b2g?
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# [07:26] <blassey> no idea, my b2g build is months old
# [07:26] <mfinkle> yeah, finding a place to paste on android is the big issue
# [07:26] <njn> blassey: I'll update, thanks
# [07:26] <njn> mfinkle: ?
# [07:26] <mfinkle> into an email or some note taking app
# [07:26] <blassey> mfinkle: I usually past to an email
# [07:27] <njn> mfinkle: you can't paste into a browser form?
# [07:27] <mfinkle> njn, i mean it's just a round about process
# [07:27] <mfinkle> but yes, into a browser form owrks
# [07:27] <glob> njn, technically you can't "cut and paste" on desktop either :P *copy & paste
# [07:27] <mfinkle> works
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# [07:28] <mfinkle> njn: thanks for the heads up on the memory dumps too
# [07:28] <mfinkle> kats implemented something like that for mobile
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# [07:28] <mfinkle> but this new code might be more appropriate
# [07:28] <blassey> yea, we were just grabbing the memory info as json with an addon
# [07:28] <blassey> this signal stuff looks useful
# [07:28] <mfinkle> could be faster too
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# [07:29] <njn> blassey: I've updated the post, thanks
# [07:29] <blassey> np
# [07:29] <njn> blassey, mfinkle: it'll be more comprehensive, too
# [07:30] <njn> it's all the reporters, not just the ones you see in about:memory
# [07:30] <blassey> njn: what are hidden in about:memory?
# [07:30] <blassey> the code in the addon just looped over all the reporters
# [07:31] <njn> blassey: the compartment reporters that are used for about:compartments, and then there's the Linux vsize/rss/pss/swap crap
# [07:31] <njn> blassey: if the add-on looped over the reporters then it will have got everything
# [07:31] <njn> blassey: jlebar's signal-based mechanism works with multiple processes though, which the add-on would not have
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# [07:32] <blassey> yes
# [07:32] <blassey> fennec doesn't care about multiple processes anymore
# [07:33] <@dolske> is Fennec using e10s? I've lost track. (no?)
# [07:33] <@khuey> no
# [07:33] <@khuey> fennec is not
# [07:33] <@khuey> b2g is
# [07:33] <mfinkle> nope
# [07:33] <Havvy> Is anything using e10s?
# [07:33] <blassey> b2g
# [07:33] <@khuey> [22:23:16] <khuey> b2g is
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# [07:35] <glob> khuey, sure, but what about b2g?
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# [07:35] <@khuey> it's my bedtime though
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# [07:36] <@khuey> s
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# [07:36] <Havvy> Enjoy your dreams.
# [07:36] <njn> b2g
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# [07:49] <cjones> has anyone managed to link a local fennec --disable-optimize build?
# [07:49] <Jesse> dholbert: i tried to build with MOZ_FLEXBOX=1 (in configure.in) but http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1855538 :(
# [07:49] <cjones> is gold the answer?
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# [08:01] <mfinkle> cjones: my macbook air does it
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# [08:01] <mfinkle> enable-debug and disable-optimize
# [08:01] <mfinkle> it does take a while
# [08:01] <hsivonen> hmm. reftest is supposed to automatically wait for iframes, right?
# [08:01] <mfinkle> but others say using gold is faster
# [08:01] <cjones> i gave up after 15 minutes
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# [08:02] <cjones> --enable-optimize links take a minute or so (which is still too high, but usable)
# [08:02] <mfinkle> my was faster than that :)
# [08:02] <cjones> alright, i'll give gold a spin
# [08:02] <cjones> ouch
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# [08:02] <mfinkle> LOL
# [08:02] <hsivonen> ooh. does the HTML parser restarting the parse confuse the reftest harness?
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# [08:14] <dholbert> Jesse, yeah, you have to uncomment some IDL as well. (sadly, IDL doesn't support #ifdef)
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# [08:15] <@dolske> "sadly"
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# [08:15] <dholbert> Jesse, for now you can apply the patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783409 -- by tomorrow, I'll have some more fine-grained patches up
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# [08:27] <@dolske> too soon
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# [08:38] <mjrosenb> just gonna leave this here: http://slbkbs.org/jsgif/
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# [08:40] <philor> mmm, handy, you get to leak 484 bytes on Windows for free because we pass a threshold value we needed on 1.9.1
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# [08:57] <glazou> bonjour
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# [08:59] <Jesse> dholbert: going to make the IDL be pref-controlled?
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# [09:00] <dholbert> Jesse, we mostly don't use that IDL file anymore, except to generate a C++ header and a few other things
# [09:00] <dholbert> Jesse, for actual dom bindings, we use an auto-generated webidl file, which does have pref-controllable magic. that's what paris bindings give us
# [09:00] <Ms2ger> Yay us \o/
# [09:00] <dholbert> s/and a few other things/and I don't know what else/
# [09:01] <dholbert> (I think the hardcoded IDL file is going away; that part just hasn't happened yet)
# [09:02] <cjones> awesome, gold segfaulted on me
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# [09:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/799bd5855c27 - David Anderson - Clean up IonScript privacy (bug 793165 part 1, r=jandem).
# [09:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28739db13abe - David Anderson - Fix buggy interactions between IC patching and invalidation (bug 793165 part 2, r=jandem).
# [09:16] <dholbert> cjones, looks like you've got a leak on your m-i reftests
# [09:16] <dholbert> cjones, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=15765184&tree=Mozilla-Inbound -- could be sporadic, but it includes nsDisplayTransform which seems related to your push
# [09:17] <cjones> dholbert, ugh, i fixed that!
# [09:17] <cjones> ok
# [09:17] <dholbert> just leaked the same types of things on linux, too, so looks non-random
# [09:17] <cjones> thanks
# [09:17] <dholbert> np
# [09:17] <mattwoodrow> cjones: You need to call the dtor on the nsDisplayTransform
# [09:17] <cjones> mattwoodrow, list.DeleteAll() does
# [09:18] <mattwoodrow> cjones: Nope, the list parameter puts the list items as children of the nsDisplayTransform
# [09:18] <cjones> ah, ok
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# [09:18] <mattwoodrow> it's for wrapping a transform around existing content lists
# [09:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2af592592319 - Eric Chou - Bug 796329 - implemented StopSendingFile() and fixed potential memory problem, r=qdot
# [09:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/51e410ea0ca1 - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_13b6_BUILD1 for changeset FIREFOX_16_0b6_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [09:24] <KWierso|Home> not it
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# [09:30] <Ms2ger> cjones, you need a backout?
# [09:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2581a4bda01 - Chris Jones - Back out bug 790505 for leaking
# [09:31] * cjones initiates new tree with a backout, bad sign
# [09:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86bf1e4e8de7 - Chris Jones - Merge backout
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# [09:42] <kanru> cjones: gold is way faster than ld to link fennec, like 20+ min to 1 min
# [09:42] <cjones> kanru, segfaulted linking it for me :(
# [09:42] <cjones> it was faster though! ;)
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# [09:46] <dholbert> Anyone know if it's possible to have a mochitest load an iframe, with the iframe's internal document being able to run e.g. "ok(foo)" "is(a, b)" etc. checks?
# [09:47] <Ms2ger> You can do parent.ok(), parent.is()
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# [09:48] <dholbert> Ms2ger, oooh, thanks
# [09:48] <Ms2ger> Np :)
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# [09:49] <glandium> kanru: interestingly, the only way for me to have ld take 20+ minutes is to build with --enable-profiling (which enables frame pointer)
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# [09:57] <glandium> kanru: ah, --enable-debug enables frame pointer, too
# [09:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/059041691d7f - Randell Jesup - Bug 729511: (and Bug 783843) build libsctp within Mozilla tree r=biesi r=ted
# [09:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fb243800b26 - Randell Jesup - Bug 729511: Import usrsctp library rev 8279 rs=biesi
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# [10:05] <cjones> glandium, any idea why frame pointers make ld fall over?
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# [10:05] <glandium> cjones: bad algorithm?
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# [10:06] <cjones> maybe frame pointers affect gcc inlining decisions?
# [10:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7a62be5fdd0 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 795235 - B2G RIL: Use system message to notify a 'dialling' call. r=vicamo
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# [10:20] <glandium> is my build hosed or did the error console disappear for real?
# [10:21] <KWierso|Home> glandium: still have an error console on elm nightly
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# [10:22] <glandium> KWierso|Home: but elm doesn't merge m-c too often
# [10:22] <glandium> the keyboard shortcut still works, but i have no menu item
# [10:22] <KWierso|Home> menu item is controlled by a pref, last I knew
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# [10:22] <KWierso|Home> devtools.errorconsole.enabled or something
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# [10:23] <KWierso|Home> oh
# [10:23] <KWierso|Home> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602006
# [10:23] <glandium> bug 602006
# [10:23] <glandium> landed two days ago
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# [10:25] <KWierso|Home> but yeah, looks like the pref can reshow it
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# [10:32] <NeilAway> ehsan: when you get data from a transferable, can you tell whether it was copied from a private browsing page?
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# [10:47] <edmorley> is anyone else seeing that it now takes two clicks to focus the bugzilla comment box after switching to the tab from another one?
# [10:47] <glob> edmorley, nope
# [10:47] <edmorley> hmm
# [10:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97d7f66e2b30 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 790192 - Part 2/2: test cases, r=marshall_law
# [10:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f1ea4ac1aa4 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 790192 - Part 1/2: support strict GSM SMS 7-Bit encoding, r=marshall_law
# [10:49] <edmorley> glob: it's kind of intermittent (just affects me quite a bit whn starring things manually, so having to fetch the log and pasting in-bg
# [10:49] <edmorley> bug)
# [10:50] <edmorley> i'll see if I can work out what is going on
# [10:50] <edmorley> is probably just an addon
# [10:50] <glob> edmorley, i've been using bmo all day, haven't seen it happen (yet); nor has anyone else reported anything similar
# [10:50] <glob> edmorley, are you using any of the bmo tweaking addons?
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# [10:51] <edmorley> no, just noscript, adblock, and UK dictionary
# [10:51] <edmorley> though the former two have been known to cause things at times
# [10:51] <glob> i have adblock+
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# [11:08] <heycam> is it just me or has the cursor:help cursor on mac changed recently?
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# [11:08] <heycam> I think it used to be a pointer with a small "?" next to it, now it's a big "?" in a circle
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# [11:16] <hsivonen> did mach change how one can run a single mochitest? it seems the old way no longer works for me
# [11:17] <hsivonen> nevermind. I found the problem
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# [11:59] <Fallen> whats an easy way to see if I accidetally created an extra head? hg heads is so much to parse...
# [11:59] <Fallen> remote: added 1 changesets with 1 changes to 1 files (+1 heads)
# [11:59] <heycam> push it to inbound and see if it fails? :)
# [12:00] <Fallen> this is comm-beta
# [12:01] * heycam doesn't really know how to understand hg heads output
# [12:01] <Fallen> hm this looks fine: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-beta/graph/tip
# [12:01] <Fallen> maybe hg is just trying to irritate me :)
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# [12:03] <Fallen> it did it again on buildbot-configs!
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# [12:07] <@roc> Dear Mozilla developers: when you get warnings about Preferences objects being used on more than one thread, the solution is NOT to mark the object thread-safe and move on. Thanks.
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# [12:12] <KWierso|Home> duly noted :)
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# [12:15] <@roc> I think two people have tried to do that in the last month
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# [12:28] <Yoric> What do we use for preprocessing JS files on m-c?
# [12:28] <Yoric> Some Python script, I believe, but I forgot which.
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# [12:30] <Yoric> Probably Preprocessor.py
# [12:30] <Unfocused> Yoric: yep
# [12:30] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [12:33] <glandium> why does bzexport sometimes not set r?
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# [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7b6af267d42 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 783273 - Work around doGetPlacesControllerForCommand being called while the browser window is already closed (fixes intermittently failing browser_350525.js and
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# [12:34] <firebot> browser_bug734076.js). r=mak
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# [12:55] <jviereck> I get this error: [12:43:29.791] NS_ERROR_XPC_NOT_ENOUGH_ARGS: Not enough arguments [nsIDOMHTMLDocument.createComment] @ https://raw.github.com/jed/weenote/master/weenote.js:38
# [12:55] <jviereck> is that a bug or feature?
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# [12:58] <Unfocused> its a bug in that code, if thats what you're asking... createComment requires an argument (and contents of the comment)
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# [13:08] <@smaug> hsivonen: so the default charset changes ?
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# [13:10] <glandium> Yoric: nice try ;)
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# [13:17] <hsivonen> smaug: where?
# [13:17] <hsivonen> smaug: ISO-8859-1 was an alias for windows-1252 anyway
# [13:17] <hsivonen> it's clearer to say windows-1252
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# [13:19] <@smaug> hsivonen: it is?
# [13:20] <@smaug> but ok
# [13:20] <@smaug> hsivonen: could you answer to emk's comment
# [13:21] <hsivonen> I’m trying to research the answer right now.
# [13:21] <@smaug> k
# [13:21] * hsivonen doesn’t like having to think about legacy CJK encodings that aren’t even the most common legacy CJK encodings
# [13:23] <hsivonen> so markup encoded as ISO-2022-* looks like ASCII, but there are also potentially markup-looking byte string in ISO-2022-* that don’t decode as markup
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# [13:26] <Yoric> glandium: mmmh?
# [13:26] <Yoric> Not sure what you're talking about.
# [13:27] <hsivonen> OK. Looks like my rough ASCII superset test is too strict considering what the spec says today
# [13:29] <glandium> Yoric: bug 797308
# [13:30] <Yoric> glandium: I am pretty sure that I have counter-examples.
# [13:30] <Yoric> I will double-check.
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# [13:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/715eda9ee772 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 796119 - part 1: don't use PR_BIT in pldhash.h; r=ehsan
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# [14:01] <glandium> Yoric: the only probably counter-example i can see is WebappsInstaller.jsm
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# [14:01] <Yoric> I just checked with test_jsctypes.js.in.
# [14:02] <Yoric> There is a 15 lines difference between the line at which I throw an error and the line displayed on the stack.
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# [14:03] <glandium> Yoric: afaics in my tree, the line numbers that are in objdir/_tests/xpcshell/toolkit/components/ctypes/tests/unit/test_jsctypes.js match
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# [14:04] <glandium> Yoric: the ones in //@line
# [14:04] <Yoric> Well, the error line does not match.
# [14:04] <Yoric> That is, the stack information does not match.
# [14:05] <Yoric> I throw an error at line 1770.
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# [14:05] <Yoric> After prepro, this line ends up being line 1755.
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# [14:05] <Yoric> And the stack is labelled 1755.
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# [14:06] <glandium> Yoric: you have //@line lines in that file, right?
# [14:06] <Yoric> Indeed.
# [14:06] <Yoric> So I will refile the bug differently.
# [14:06] <Yoric> But the bug is present.
# [14:06] <glandium> Yoric: i doubt the numbers are wrong there
# [14:07] <glandium> the problem is not on Preprocess.py's end
# [14:07] <Yoric> ok
# [14:07] <glandium> Yoric: you can easily check the //@lines in test_jsctypes.js to see if that matches the line numbers in test_jsctypes.js.in
# [14:07] <glandium> here, they match
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# [14:09] <Yoric> They seem to match.
# [14:09] <Yoric> But the result is somehow wrong.
# [14:10] <Yoric> Maybe the problem is JS-side.
# [14:10] <glandium> what result?
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# [14:10] <Yoric> Well, the stack information displayed.
# [14:10] <glandium> there's probably a problem in the js-engine
# [14:10] <glandium> which suggests we should have a test for that
# [14:11] <Yoric> Indeed.
# [14:11] <glandium> looks like there's a test in js/src/jsapi-tests/testXDR.cpp, but it doesn't test line numbers
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# [14:20] <glandium> Yoric: well, i don't know in what context these //@line are supposed to be used, but in a simple testcase on a web page, that doesn't happen
# [14:20] <glandium> at all
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# [14:25] <glandium> Yoric: there's a test for that: js/src/tests/js1_8_5/regress/regress-618652.js
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# [14:30] <glandium> Yoric: the feature is controlled by JSOPTION_ATLINE and works correctly, when enabled
# [14:30] <Yoric> And where exactly should we enable JSOPTION_ATLINE?
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# [14:32] <Yoric> Components.utils.atline = true
# [14:32] <Yoric> it seems
# [14:33] <Yoric> Mmmhh... no, not sufficient.
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# [14:34] <glandium> Yoric: since that happens at parsing time, you need to test on a different js
# [14:34] <glandium> than the one you use to set Components.utils.atline
# [14:34] <Yoric> I will see if it works better in head.js
# [14:34] <Yoric> Even if this works, this remains an issue.
# [14:35] <glandium> or in an eval: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1855819
# [14:35] <glandium> so the feature exists, but is not used
# [14:36] <Yoric> eval doesn't seem to help
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# [14:36] <Yoric> I mean, not for test_jsctypes.js.in
# [14:36] <Yoric> However, putting it head.js works.
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# [14:45] <glandium> Yoric: bug 246286
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# [14:47] <Yoric> thanks
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# [14:51] <glandium> Yoric: the interesting thing is that the //@line tags have been added to preprocessor.pl (the ancestor) for exactly that bug
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# [14:52] <glandium> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvslog.cgi?file=mozilla/config/preprocessor.pl&rev=3.29
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# [14:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b992222370b - Ed Morley - Backout ffcdd896a1fa (bug 787947) for reftest failures
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# [14:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e5584c8e7d0 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 796911 - Attempt to fix Intermittent test_clear_browser_data.html. r=jwatt
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# [14:59] <Ms2ger> Oh man, did you guys just comment in a bug with py8ieh in the whiteboard?
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# [15:00] <mounir> py8ieh?
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# [15:05] <Ms2ger> mounir, Hixie
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# [15:07] <mounir> the link is more than explicit, indeed ;)
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# [15:10] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Yes, we did.
# [15:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/13fd49ef7786 - Zack Weinberg - Merge revert of diagnostic round 2 for bug 536603. DONTBUILD
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# [15:12] <baku> Ms2ger, question - take a look of 282547. Do we want to disable the prompt only if the URI contains credentials. is it?
# [15:12] <baku> not for any XHR request...
# [15:12] <baku> I need a confirm
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# [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d2a2a4ce97c - Marty Rosenberg - Add in two patches that were lost while rebasing (bug 765119, r=jandem)
# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9cb6c217681 - Marty Rosenberg - Beta nodes sholud be able to have infinite ranges, fixes very slow testcase (bug 765119, r=dvander)
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# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec67e229cc9b - Marty Rosenberg - Teach RangeAnalysis how to deal with unreachable blocks (bug 765119, r=dvander)
# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43a250bfe33d - Marty Rosenberg - Add narrowing into range analysis, greatly speeding up some testcases (bug 765119, jandem)
# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a3d23311a58 - Marty Rosenberg - Fix a bunch of bugs that the fuzzers found (bug 765119, r=dvander)
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# [15:55] <bhearsum> edmorley: are any of the errors in global_errors things we'd want to catch in the run_tests.py step?
# [15:55] <bhearsum> because by adding log_eval_func to that step, we lose the default of catching everything from global_errors
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# [15:56] <edmorley> bhearsum: yeah; in which case I'll add it to general (I didn't realise it overrode)
# [15:56] <bhearsum> ahhh, ok
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# [15:59] <edmorley> bhearsum: thanks :-D
# [15:59] <bhearsum> thanks for the patch :)
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# [15:59] <bhearsum> you're going to be a buildbot-configs/buildbotcustom expert before you know it! ;)
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# [16:03] <lmandel> mconley: Download manager jank bug 789932
# [16:03] <Pike> interestingly, linux thunderbird nightlies are stull busted for bad choice of compilers
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# [16:05] <mconley> lmandel: cool, cc'd, thanks.
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# [16:09] <glandium> past: are there tests for the other actors?
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# [16:10] <past> glandium: yes, xpcshell tests and browser mochitests
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# [16:10] <past> glandium: if you want something simple look at toolkit/devtools/debugger/tests
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# [16:12] <glandium> past: it would seem reasonable to put the profiler actor tests there, too
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# [16:12] <glandium> i don't think there are any
# [16:12] <past> fine by me
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# [16:12] <past> glandium: when we add a profiler client tool we could move them over there
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# [16:16] <Yoric> glandium: Not quite sure what triggers the call to xpcshell.
# [16:16] <Yoric> (i.e. where should I put that "-e" ?)
# [16:16] <espindola> !seen ted
# [16:16] <firebot> ted was last seen 18 minutes ago, saying 'so it depends on where you get started?' in #build.
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# [16:16] <glandium> Yoric: testing/xpcshell/runxpcshelltests.py
# [16:16] <glandium> Yoric: look for const _HTTPD_JS_PATH in that file
# [16:16] <Yoric> As for mochitests, I could set the preference in SimpleTest.js, but I suspect that is not the best place.
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# [16:17] <Ms2ger> Yoric, automation.py?
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# [16:17] <Yoric> Ms2ger: for xpcshell tests?
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# [16:18] <glandium> Yoric: there's some place where we set prefs for mochitests, i don't know where, though
# [16:18] * Ms2ger would assume it's used for everything
# [16:19] <glandium> yeah, build/automation.py.in
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# [16:19] <glandium> Ms2ger: i don't think the user_pref part is used for xpcshell tests
# [16:19] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [16:19] <Ms2ger> How silly :)
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# [16:20] <glandium> Ms2ger: automation.initializeProfile is only called in testing/mochitest/runtests.py
# [16:21] <Ms2ger> Well, at least he's got a place for mochitests, then :)
# [16:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c63d0cd4603d - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 797340 - Upgrade mach_override. r=ted.
# [16:22] <glandium> Ms2ger: i gave one for xpcshell too ;)
# [16:22] <Ms2ger> All set! :)
# [16:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/066fea4aa285 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 6: Replace LL_UCMP macro with standard comparison. r=ehsan
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f729670158d6 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 1: Replace LL_IS_ZERO macro with standard relation. r=ehsan
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/586070a8d3f1 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 5: Replace LL_CMP macro with standard comparison. r=ehsan
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7aa4ea0c1d30 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 2: Replace LL_EQ macro with standard relation. r=ehsan
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> ehsan++
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb806f6be5d0 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 4: Replace LL_GE_ZERO macro with standard relation. r=ehsan
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee5a3b45e378 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 3: Replace LL_NE macro with standard relation. r=ehsan
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# [16:29] <Yoric> Ok, that gives me a starting place for @line.
# [16:29] <Yoric> (on mochitest)
# [16:29] <Yoric> Now I "just" have to implement the preference.
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# [16:30] <Ms2ger> drexler++
# [16:31] <glandium> Yoric: there are similar prefs for other js-engine options in nsJSEnvironment.cpp (iirc)
# [16:31] <Yoric> Ah, that's what I was looking for, thanks.
# [16:31] <joe> aaahhh jlebar
# [16:31] <joe> reviewwww myyyy patchhhh
# [16:31] <joe> every time bhearsum crashes i am going to call jlebar|sleep at home
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# [16:31] <glandium> Yoric: check JSOPTION_*
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# [16:32] <jlebar> joe, You did ask for a thorough review...
# [16:32] <joe> jlebar: i take it all back
# [16:32] <jlebar> lol
# [16:32] <joe> i want a puppet
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# [16:33] <glandium> Yoric: also note there's a patch in the 2xxxxxx bug that does that, iirc
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# [16:40] <Yoric> glandium: Good point.
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# [16:47] <Yoric> glandium: I think I will just handle xpcshell atm. I have more urgent things to do than mochitests right now.
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# [16:51] <glob> anyone else seeing transient artefacts when opening new tabs? http://db.tt/35l6IjzM
# [16:51] <@ehsan> glob: file a bug and make it block dlbi :)
# [16:52] <glob> ehsan, ok :)
# [16:52] <@ehsan> glob: and cc mattwoodrow|away on it
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# [16:53] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: thanks! :)
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# [16:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3b82cf0dcb0 - Benoit Girard - Bug 796939 - Don't use the SinglePaintBuffer if only painting one tile. r=Cwiis
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# [16:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: one dontbuild and one dobuild make a dobuild :)
# [16:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: depending on the order of course
# [16:55] <Ms2ger> ehsan, so, how long until we kill prtypes? :)
# [16:55] <BenWa> ehsan: I know. I was going to push the first alone but then my other patch got r+
# [16:56] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: see bug dieprtypesdie :)
# [16:56] <@ehsan> BenWa: ok, just felt like adding some noise to the channel!
# [16:56] <froydnj> Ms2ger: thanks for the spot on that 64-bit bug
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# [16:57] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: yeah, I couldn't spot it even though I was looking for it
# [16:57] <@ehsan> clearly my eyes need to be checked
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# [17:01] <Ms2ger> froydnj, ehsan, np :)
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# [17:10] <joe> jlebar: so
# [17:10] <joe> talk to me about your review comments
# [17:10] <jlebar> joe, I feel like all this code is pretty convoluted, in general.
# [17:10] <joe> it's true
# [17:10] <jlebar> joe, Such and thus an object live inside RasterImage, instead of being refcounted itself.
# [17:11] <joe> "such and thus"?
# [17:11] <jlebar> joe, Then we pass around the RasterImage instead of the scale-request to static methods...
# [17:11] <jlebar> joe, I guess it's the ScaleRequest object.
# [17:11] <jlebar> joe, But then we also have a linked list in the RasterImage of scale requests.
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# [17:11] <jlebar> joe, Which I can't figure out if it ever contains more than one scale request.
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# [17:11] <joe> ScaleRequest is a member variable of RasterImage
# [17:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/809b60046c5b - Ed Morley - Backout 1d2a2a4ce97c, 1a3d23311a58, ec67e229cc9b, 43a250bfe33d, 43e4a8a3788b, e9cb6c217681 (bug 765119) for mochitest failures on Windows
# [17:12] <jlebar> joe, Yeah, that's really the source of your troubles, right? If it weren't a member variable, we could just have a strong ref cycle which is broken when the ScaleRequest completes.
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# [17:12] <joe> right, ok
# [17:12] <jlebar> joe, Which would allow us to properly cancel ScaleRequests, whereas right now we /must/ call RequestDraw for every ScaleRequest we create.
# [17:12] <joe> right now it's not possible to have *multiple* instances of the same ScaleRequest in the queue at the same time
# [17:13] <NeilAway> do we have code on windows to mark a download as potentially unsafe remote content?
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# [17:13] <joe> they can go one after the other though
# [17:13] <jlebar> joe, But the queue...it's per RasterImage and never has length > 1, for now?
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# [17:13] <joe> the queue is global
# [17:13] <joe> there's a singleton thread
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# [17:14] <jlebar> joe, Oh, I see, mScaleRequests is a member on ScaleWorker.
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# [17:15] <jlebar> joe, It's quite convoluted and needs a good dose of object orientation, imo.
# [17:15] <jlebar> joe, That goes for much of the file, though.
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# [17:17] <jlebar> joe, You need to fix your crash. I've just been bitten extremely hard by code which does basically this same thing.
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# [17:18] <joe> jlebar: ok. so basically you're objecting not to this fix, but the fact that this fix is necessary
# [17:18] <joe> jlebar: i can fix the latter part when I make it possible to have multiple ScaleRequests
# [17:18] <jlebar> joe, That's exactly what seems sane to me.
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# [17:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2622aa008fe9 - Joel Maher - Bug 797112 - we have a call to dm.checkCmd and that api doesn't exist anymore. r=wlach
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# [17:51] <Optimizer> Yoric: that is bad, you said that strings writing is difficult
# [17:51] <Optimizer> :P
# [17:51] <Yoric> ?
# [17:52] <Optimizer> ref: your blog post
# [17:52] <Optimizer> and in your blog , its just as simple as any other atomic write
# [17:54] <Yoric> I just reworked it into something simpler :)
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# [17:54] <Yoric> (with froydnj's assistance)
# [17:55] <Optimizer> the Encode/Decoder ?
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# [17:55] <Optimizer> that makes it so much easier, I would not have to convert the integers into a buffer now :)
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# [17:57] <Yoric> Well, if you are using lzw, typed arrays are *much* faster than strings.
# [17:58] <Optimizer> the algorithm gives me back array of integers,
# [17:58] <Optimizer> its my choice to convert that array into String.charCodeAt , or int32array buffer
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# [18:00] <@ehsan> git commit -a
# [18:02] <Optimizer> # On branch master
# [18:02] <Optimizer> nothing to commit (working directory clean)
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# [18:05] <Yoric> Well, int32array is pretty much always faster than string.
# [18:05] <Yoric> Unless you need to change its size.
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# [18:06] <Optimizer> you mean the conversion time. time taken to convert all the ints to String.charCodeAt(int) vs let buffer = new ArrayBuffer(); intBuffer = new int32Array(size); for each (int in some array) intBuffer[i] = int ?
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# [18:07] <Yoric> I mean just about any operation.
# [18:07] <glandium> int32array and charcodeat won't do the same thing
# [18:07] <Yoric> Plus the int32array will result in a much smaller file...
# [18:08] <Optimizer> no, the size is same
# [18:08] <Yoric> no
# [18:08] <Yoric> ah, my bad, possibly
# [18:08] <Optimizer> int 32 takes 2 byte per int, charCodeAt conversion converts each int into one char, taking 2 bytes again
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# [18:08] <glandium> int32 takes 32 bits, that's 4 bytes
# [18:09] <Optimizer> oh yeah , so its double then :D
# [18:09] <Optimizer> is there int16 also ?
# [18:09] <Yoric> Regardless, you want int16array
# [18:09] <Yoric> The string version will be much more fragile
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# [18:09] <sfink> glandium: when does bzexport not set a reviewer?
# [18:09] <efaust> ah yes, the gentle caress of my macbook burning my thigh. I must be doing a browser build.
# [18:09] <glandium> depends what you want to do. you maybe just want int8
# [18:09] <glandium> sfink: sometimes
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# [18:10] <Optimizer> glandium: out put of LZW algorithm
# [18:10] <glandium> sfink: for instance, it never properly set it for 793672
# [18:10] <sfink> glandium: do you have your command line?
# [18:10] <glandium> Optimizer: you want int8
# [18:10] <Optimizer> oh, that will do without any loss
# [18:10] <glandium> sfink: hg bzexport -r :past ; bzexport itself properly reported it was setting review for past at moco
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# [18:11] <glandium> sfink: the same command had worked on other bugs
# [18:11] <glandium> sfink: interestingly, when it happens in one bug, it continues to happen in the same bug for subsequent patches
# [18:11] <glandium> sfink: it's not the first time it happens to me
# [18:11] <sfink> glandium: weird, it should barf if it gets back a non-200 result. But let me verify that.
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# [18:12] <glandium> sfink: maybe it's a bugzilla api bug
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# [18:16] <sfink> glandium: which of the 3 versions of the attachment to bug 793672 did this happen for?
# [18:16] <glandium> sfink: at least the last 2
# [18:16] <glandium> i don't remember for the first
# [18:16] <sfink> ok, thanks
# [18:16] <mbrubeck> ugh, lots of painting/invalidation problems using today's Windows nightly
# [18:16] <mbrubeck> DLBI fallout?
# [18:17] <glandium> sfink: seeing the when on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_activity.cgi?id=793672 i'd say it also happened on the first one
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# [18:17] <glandium> sfink: actually no, the first one was probably good
# [18:18] <Optimizer> glandium: no, int8Array is not working, I am getting half of what I compressed upon decompression
# [18:18] <Optimizer> neither is Uint8Array
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# [18:18] <Optimizer> while Int16Array works fine
# [18:18] <Yoric> Optimizer: Well, then use Int16Array :)
# [18:18] <@bz> Optimizer: interesting
# [18:18] <@bz> Optimizer: why?
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# [18:18] <Yoric> (it just means that your computations go beyond 255)
# [18:19] <Optimizer> yes they do
# [18:19] <Optimizer> I get 260 also
# [18:19] <Optimizer> as an in the array
# [18:19] <@bz> yeah, then the *8Array types are not for you. ;)
# [18:20] <glandium> int16array will guarantee your lzw output will be broken on bigendians
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# [18:21] <Optimizer> so use int32 ?
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# [18:22] <Optimizer> well it should not need int32, as some versions of algorithm return string rather than integer array, and string is 16 bit only
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# [18:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e36042dd4b25 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 797144 - mirror mozbase -> m-c for bug 796863 @ https://github.com/mozilla/mozbase/commit/db7f115a9e6ec7928668a5d9243d9801453c0e07;r=wlach
# [18:23] <glandium> Optimizer: int32 would be even worse
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# [18:24] <glandium> Optimizer: why is your algorithm using 16 bit integers anyways? optimization?
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# [18:26] <vlad> does nsNPAPIPlugin.cpp(267) : error C2065: 'useA11yPref' : undeclared identifier look familiar?
# [18:26] <vlad> or did --disable-accessibilty break?
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# [18:27] <Ms2ger> vlad, yes, --disable-accessibilty broke
# [18:27] <Ms2ger> There's a patch in some bug
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# [18:28] <vlad> I guess I could just get rid of it
# [18:28] <Ms2ger> vlad, bug 797316
# [18:28] <vlad> since I'm going to need to do a full rebuild anyway, hrm.
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# [18:31] <gabor> is there a simple way to look for an element in an nsCOMArray?
# [18:31] <Ms2ger> Doesn't it have IndexOf?
# [18:32] <gabor> Ms2ger: yupp, thanks just found it
# [18:32] <evilpie> how would i properly implement a HasDownloadAttribute function on nsHTMLAnchorElement ?
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# [18:33] <Ms2ger> evilpie, HasAttr(namespace_none, nsGkAtoms::download)
# [18:33] <evilpie> should i add a function for that?
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# [18:34] <Ms2ger> You could
# [18:36] <evilpie> the spec wants this function to work with <area> and <a>
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> You may want to put some code in dom::Link
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# [18:37] <evilpie> this is also implemented by other stuff right?
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# [18:38] <@bz> yes
# [18:38] <@bz> Link is <area> and <a> and <link> and <svg:a> and some other stuff perhaps
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# [18:40] <nemo> bz: and if Firefox still supports XHTML2, anything w/ an href attribute :)
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# [18:42] <evilpie> bz: so this wouldn't match with the spec
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# [18:42] <@bz> nemo: "still"?
# [18:42] <@bz> nemo: we never did, and don't plan to
# [18:43] <@bz> evilpie: well, depends on where you call it from
# [18:43] <evilpie> OnLinkClickSync?
# [18:43] <@bz> ah
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# [18:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9633e93b7e2 - Eric Faust - Bug 795150 - Add DOMCallbacks to worker thread JSRuntimes. (r=bz)
# [18:43] <nemo> bz: oh. huh. I'd swear I'd clicked on XHTML2 pages in FF.
# [18:43] <nemo> guess not :)
# [18:43] <@bz> You could just check for area/a directly there
# [18:44] <@bz> nemo: oh, you can _click_ on them
# [18:44] <nemo> or maybe they used <a> for links
# [18:44] <@bz> nemo: and we'll render something
# [18:44] <@bz> nemo: using the rules of xhtml1
# [18:44] <Ms2ger> evilpie, well, you could just put the code in Link and only call it from a/area
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# [18:44] <@bz> nemo: since they're in the same namespace, so the semantics are the same, right?
# [18:44] <evilpie> i could add IsDownloadLink
# [18:45] <nemo> bz: not sure what you mean by semantics, but XHTML2 was a fairly significant break with the past.
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# [18:46] <nemo> bz: I still wish <img><img><img><a href="fallback">whatever</a></img></img></img> worked in HTML5 - well. it has always worked in Firefox, but that's not standard or valid :)
# [18:46] <nemo> and can do it w/ <object> as in XHTML2 but that's clunky
# [18:47] <nemo> doesn't even work in XHTML5 :-/ they had no interest in adding a few nifty extensions to the XHTML one
# [18:47] <nemo> ah well
# [18:47] <nemo> and in XHTML5 it would have worked due to <img />
# [18:47] <@bz> nemo: what I meant by semantics is what I said
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# [18:47] <@bz> nemo: and yes, XHTML2 was all broken.
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# [18:48] <Optimizer> glandium: its not my algorithm , its LZW compression, which compresses strings into array of integers
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# [18:48] <Optimizer> if I were to store these integers into a file, I should either convert these integers into string using CharCodeAt , or use typed arrays
# [18:49] <@bz> If you want to store in a file, you need to convert to an array of bytes at some point
# [18:49] <@bz> because that's what files are, right?
# [18:49] <nemo> text file? :-p
# [18:49] <Optimizer> yes..
# [18:49] <@bz> (Whether you do that yourself, or something does that for you behind your back)
# [18:49] <Optimizer> any kind of file
# [18:50] <Optimizer> but glandium says that even int32 is bad :(
# [18:50] <@bz> well
# [18:51] <@bz> define "bad"?
# [18:51] <@bz> The question is how you convert to/from bytes, right?
# [18:51] <Optimizer> I don't know
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# [18:51] <Optimizer> I think eitehr converting the ints to resp. characters, or storing the ints into int16array would do the job equally well
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# [18:53] <@bz> it depends on where you read/write the data
# [18:53] <@bz> and how
# [18:54] <Optimizer> on local disk, using OS.File.atomicWrite
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# [18:54] <evilpie> bz: i could swear there was some function like IsHTMLink? which just checks for atom::href
# [18:55] <@bz> Optimizer: ok, is this "local disk" shared across machines?
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# [18:55] <@bz> Optimizer: which have different endianness?
# [18:55] <@bz> Optimizer: and what does atomicWrite actually do?
# [18:55] <efaust> is it just me, or have inbound build-bot response times gotten worse recently?
# [18:55] <Optimizer> what is exactly this endianness ?
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# [18:56] <Optimizer> but, atomicWrite: Yoric ?
# [18:56] <@bz> Optimizer: ah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness
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# [18:56] <Optimizer> I saw that
# [18:56] <Optimizer> :|
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# [18:56] <@bz> Optimizer: basically, there are two ways to represent a 16-bit int as two butes
# [18:56] <@bz> er, bytes
# [18:56] <@bz> for example, if the int is "1"
# [18:56] <@bz> you could have 0x00 0x01 or 0x01 0x00
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# [18:56] <@bz> With me so far?
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# [18:56] <Optimizer> yup
# [18:57] <Optimizer> isn't that bad ?
# [18:57] <@bz> well, define "bad"
# [18:57] <Optimizer> I mean at one place its 1
# [18:57] <Optimizer> and another its 2^8
# [18:57] <@bz> right
# [18:57] <@bz> if you read and write in different endiannes
# [18:57] <@bz> which is why you have to be careful, when serializing, to define the endianness of your serialization format
# [18:58] <Optimizer> doesn't this situation arrive with like every kind of file ?
# [18:58] <@bz> and do endianness conversion on read/write if it does not match native endianness
# [18:58] <@bz> yes
# [18:58] <@bz> most file formats either use byte-sized units to start with or define endianness
# [18:58] <Optimizer> so if atmoicWrite defines that, I should be good ?
# [18:58] <@bz> evilpie: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=ishtmllink ?
# [18:59] <@bz> Optimizer: yes
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# [18:59] * @bz is not seeing this atomicwrite thing in our tree, so can't tell what it does
# [18:59] <froydnj> Optimizer: atomicWrite (assuming OS.File here) doesn't define it
# [18:59] <froydnj> Optimizer: it uses whatever endianness your JS implementation uses for typed arrays
# [18:59] <Optimizer> froydnj: :(
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# [18:59] <@bz> it's not a huge problem
# [18:59] <froydnj> Optimizer: and since *that* can't get standardized...
# [19:00] <Optimizer> and is this endianness same across all Firefoxes ?
# [19:00] <@bz> you can just make sure the typed array you pass to atomicWrite is always in the same endianness
# [19:00] <@bz> Optimizer: no
# [19:00] <@bz> Optimizer: that's the point
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# [19:00] <Optimizer> how to make that sure ?
# [19:00] <@bz> well, test what the native endianness is
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# [19:00] <@bz> and if it's not the right one for your serialization format, byte-swap before writing
# [19:00] <@bz> so for example
# [19:00] <@bz> you could decide that your serialization format is little-endian
# [19:00] <@bz> (which is the common native endianness case)
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# [19:01] <@bz> var x = getMyInt16Array();
# [19:01] <@bz> var y = new Int16Array(1);
# [19:01] <@bz> y[0] = 1;
# [19:01] <Ms2ger> The right reaction to endianness is crying
# [19:01] <Ms2ger> Or waging war
# [19:01] <@bz> var z = new Uint8Array(y.buffer);
# [19:02] <Optimizer> :O
# [19:02] <@bz> if (z[1] == 1) { /* big endian */
# [19:02] <nemo> emscripten has endianness issues, doesn't it :-/
# [19:02] <@bz> // create a Uint8Array overlay for x.buffer, go through and swap the bytes
# [19:02] <@bz> }
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# [19:02] <froydnj> Ms2ger: which side are you going to be on in the war?
# [19:02] <@bz> then you write x, which is now guaranteed to contain little-endian 16-bit ints
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# [19:02] <Optimizer> will that problem still arrive if I write a file using NetUtils ?
# [19:02] <@bz> then on read, do the same thing
# [19:03] <@bz> yes
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# [19:03] <@bz> because raw file-writing stuff has no idea what your higher-level contract is
# [19:03] <@bz> so it can't do the swapping for you
# [19:03] <@bz> for example, say your data consisted of an array of structs like this:
# [19:03] <@bz> struct foo {
# [19:03] <Optimizer> then how does the files downloaded from cloud, like images or stuff work on every system ?
# [19:03] <@bz> int8_t x;
# [19:04] <@bz> int16_t y;
# [19:04] <nemo> froydnj: the Blefuscudians
# [19:04] <@bz> int32_t z;
# [19:04] <@bz> }
# [19:04] <glandium> otoh, i don't see how you could have different endianness for lzw...
# [19:04] <@bz> Optimizer: images use byte-sized units for the most part
# [19:04] <@bz> Optimizer: the few places they do not...
# [19:04] * @bz looks it up
# [19:04] <Optimizer> or say some zip/tar archive
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# [19:04] <nemo> ah. yep. emscripten still has no big-endian support *sigh*
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# [19:04] <nemo> oh well. big-endian is on the way out
# [19:04] <Optimizer> in daily scenario I never encountered a file that is not working ude to this endianness
# [19:05] <nemo> Optimizer: try on a PPC machine :)
# [19:05] <glandium> Optimizer: zip and tar files have a fixed endianness in the format
# [19:05] <nemo> Optimizer: we had all kinds of fun w/ RGBA vs ABGR in our game :)
# [19:05] <Ms2ger> nemo, Lilliput, dammit!
# [19:05] <@bz> Optimizer: let's take png as an example
# [19:05] <Optimizer> oh, this dark secret hidden workd of endianness.
# [19:05] <@bz> Optimizer: the actual image data is an array of bytes, not of numbers
# [19:05] <Optimizer> I can't handle it.
# [19:05] <@bz> Optimizer: so endianness does not matter
# [19:05] <@bz> Optimizer: the image size is a pair of numbers
# [19:05] <Optimizer> its even worse than waking up from matrix
# [19:06] <@bz> Optimizer: and the png spec says, in http://www.w3.org/TR/PNG/#7Integers-and-byte-order
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# [19:06] <@bz> Optimizer: "All integers that require more than one byte shall be in network byte order"
# [19:06] <@bz> Optimizer: (that's big-endian)
# [19:06] <Optimizer> oh
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# [19:06] <glandium> Optimizer: the point is: if you use int16array to write lzw files, there are chances these lzw files won't be readable on machines with a different endianness as yours. and there are even chances that you won't be able to even read them on your machine with a lzw reader that is not yours
# [19:06] <@bz> Optimizer: so software that reads PNG on little-endian machines has to byte-swap all the non-single-byte things to little-endian
# [19:06] <mbrubeck> Okay, definitely some bad invalidation/painting problems introduced in today's Windows nightly on pages like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.prados.contacts.providers.ldap.generic.beta
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# [19:07] <mbrubeck> Before I go on further bisecting/bug-hunting rampages, any known problems?
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# [19:07] <@bz> so what confuses me is..
# [19:07] <@bz> the output of lzw is bytes
# [19:07] <@bz> not 16-bit unis
# [19:07] <@bz> er, units
# [19:07] <@bz> where are the 16-bit units coming from?
# [19:07] <mbrubeck> A lot of content is simply not rendering, or appears/disappears as I scroll or hover
# [19:07] <@bz> mbrubeck: dlbi?
# [19:07] <glandium> bz: i'd say either optimization, or a big mistake
# [19:08] <Optimizer> bz: lzw outputs integers
# [19:08] <mbrubeck> bz: Yesterday's nightly was good; were there any DLBI changes that landed between then and now?
# [19:08] <glandium> Optimizer: inherently, the output of lzw is a sequence of bits
# [19:08] * mbrubeck looks at pushlog
# [19:08] <@bz> mbrubeck: ah, not sure
# [19:08] <Optimizer> glandium: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/LZW_compression#JavaScript
# [19:08] * @bz can't believe people actually have no idea that endianness exists nowadays
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# [19:09] <Optimizer> this gives me back int array like [1,145,300,53]
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# [19:09] <Ms2ger> glandium, bits? Just indices into a dictionary, no?
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# [19:09] <@khuey> I wish endianness didn't exist
# [19:09] <@khuey> does that count?
# [19:09] <@bz> well, sure
# [19:09] <@bz> we all do
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# [19:09] <@bz> and one of these days, we can pretend it's like EBCDIC
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# [19:09] <@bz> except for the fact that "network order" is big-endian.... ;)
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# [19:09] <Optimizer> its like matrix, you wished that the sleep you were having were the real life and real life doesn't exist, and slowly people forget that the sleep is not the real world
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# [19:10] <@bz> so
# [19:10] <mbrubeck> Maybe it's this stuff that mattwoodrow|away landed yesterday
# [19:10] <nemo> bz: was there some logical reason for that, like being able to read just the first part of some packet, or is it an accident of history? 'cause, yeah...
# [19:10] <@bz> Apparently the point is that LZW encodes 8-bit data as 12-bit units
# [19:11] <@bz> nemo: I think at the time most people who cared about networks were big-endian
# [19:11] <@bz> nemo: but it was way before my time, so....
# [19:11] <Optimizer> let me see if I can find a compressin algo that gives me byte data
# [19:12] <@bz> hold on
# [19:12] <@bz> so logically, the output is 12-bit units
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# [19:12] <Optimizer> bz: yes
# [19:12] <@bz> Please to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lempel-Ziv-Welch#Packing_order
# [19:12] <Optimizer> most accurately its 12
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# [19:12] <@bz> so first of all...
# [19:13] <@bz> 1) There is no canonical way to serialize LZW (e.g. see the TIFF/PDF vs GIF example there)
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# [19:13] <@bz> 2) Serializing it as 16-bit ints doesn't match either of the existing common serializations
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# [19:14] <@bz> none of this is a problem if you're the only one who plans to read your data
# [19:14] <Optimizer> yes..
# [19:14] <@bz> as long as you decide for yourself what your serialization format is. ;)
# [19:14] <Optimizer> but its not the case
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# [19:14] <Optimizer> might not be the case
# [19:14] <Optimizer> today's nightly is hell, isn't even painting my scrollbars :(
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# [19:15] <nemo> ah-hah. I *thought* Firefox was feeding processes the wrong URL!
# [19:15] <nemo> nemo 13272 0.3 0.2 1158696 33484 pts/18 Sl+ Sep27 27:12 /usr/bin/transmission-gtk file:///tmp/
# [19:15] <nemo> that's why software-center kept claiming it had no idea how to open file://
# [19:16] <nemo> that should be /usr/bin/transmission-gtk /tmp/BlackMesaSource.torrent
# [19:16] <Optimizer> firefox thinks my network is down, while I am chatting here
# [19:16] <Optimizer> damn you dlbi
# [19:16] <Optimizer> :P
# [19:16] <nemo> guess I'll update to latest nightly, retest, maybe file a bug :)
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# [19:18] <evilpie> meh I don't like the code I am writing right now
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# [19:18] <nemo> On the subject of typed arrays, does anyone know if there's any plans to land https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749786 any time soon?
# [19:18] <nemo> 'cause it would almost certainly help our emscripten compiled game quite a bit
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# [19:19] <nemo> at least in Firefox
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# [19:20] <@bz> nemo: only if it gets a new owner
# [19:20] <nemo> oh :-/
# [19:20] <espindola> ted: any comments on the new breakpad patch?
# [19:20] <espindola> should I split it?
# [19:21] <@ted> espindola: oh, i don't think i saw mail for it
# [19:21] <espindola> strange
# [19:21] <@ted> rietveld is annoying about not sending mail unless you tell it to
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# [19:21] <espindola> :-(
# [19:21] <@ted> will look now
# [19:22] <espindola> thanks
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# [19:24] <nemo> glandium: thanks for taking an interest ! :)
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# [19:24] <glandium> nemo: doesn't mean i'll be doing anything ;)
# [19:25] <nemo> glandium: right now we get 30-45fps and while part of that is undoubtedly due to emscripten crashing on inlining that we might have to do in our pas2c converter...
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# [19:25] <nemo> glandium: the other part of it is probably due to most of the game math being fixed point 64 bit values
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# [19:25] <nemo> glandium: I've started rewriting functions to use two 32 bit chunks, but they are still way more ops than the 64 bit versions, and haven't done rwriting all of them anyway
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# [19:26] <Optimizer> **ck this LZW, I am going with PNG
# [19:26] <mbrubeck> My graphics bug was bug 797314, if anyone is curious. (Thanks zzzzz)
# [19:26] <zzzzz> yw
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# [19:26] <nemo> Optimizer: lol. whatcha doin?
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# [19:26] <@ted> espindola: why are you changing the signature of FindChildHandler in that patch?
# [19:26] <nemo> Optimizer: IDB?
# [19:26] <Optimizer> compressing strings
# [19:27] <Optimizer> IDB o.O ?
# [19:27] <espindola> ted: that is the part it might be a good idea to spilt into an independent patch. I noticed one of the arguments was not used.
# [19:27] <nemo> Optimizer: http://hedgewars.org/hwjs/hwjs.html - we use IndexedDB to cache all game resources locally :D
# [19:27] <espindola> and removed it.
# [19:28] <@ted> espindola: yeah, if you can factor that out into a separate patch it'd be better
# [19:28] <nemo> Optimizer: saves on our bandwidth and user experience. And is fetched incrementally too! kinda merged FS, local and remote
# [19:28] <nemo> well. IDB + HTML5 manifest
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# [19:28] <Optimizer> how much compression you get ?
# [19:28] <glandium> Optimizer: compressing strings in png?
# [19:28] <nemo> Optimizer: most of our resources are compressed already, but those that aren't we don't really care, since they are cached locally
# [19:28] <Optimizer> glandium: yes, I can get more than 50% compression with it
# [19:29] <yury> glandium: why not?
# [19:29] <espindola> ted: will do
# [19:29] <nemo> Optimizer: for example, the local files or lua, we just fetch remotely. Besides, the website supports HTTP compression
# [19:29] <@ted> espindola: other than that just a few nits
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# [19:29] <nemo> Optimizer: so compressing the strings in transport seems pretty pointless
# [19:29] <@ted> will post review in a sec
# [19:29] <espindola> thanks
# [19:29] <nemo> Optimizer: esp since they only need to be fetched once per release
# [19:29] <nemo> (maybe even less than that if the file didn't change since last release)
# [19:29] <Optimizer> nemo: yeah, not the case for me :(
# [19:29] <nemo> Optimizer: why? no mod_deflate on your server? :)
# [19:30] <Optimizer> I am not storing that kind of things
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# [19:30] <Optimizer> user might record some data, and I am trying to store the session data jsons in some compressed form
# [19:30] <nemo> Optimizer: I just mean, it seems you shouldn't have to worry about compression. Should just let it happen transparently in the connection...
# [19:30] <Optimizer> no connection
# [19:30] <Optimizer> all local
# [19:30] <nemo> ah.
# [19:31] <nemo> Optimizer: well. I wouldn't bother compressing that either :) disc space is cheap :-p
# [19:31] <Optimizer> and the user can take that file into any place else and load it to see the session again
# [19:31] <nemo> just how big are these sessions anyway? :)
# [19:31] <Optimizer> I might do that eventually :P
# [19:31] <Optimizer> no idea till now :P
# [19:31] <nemo> might be premature optimisation if it is only measured in KiB
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# [19:31] <nemo> KiBbles and bits
# [19:31] <Optimizer> never checked before as I don;t keep the whole session in memory right now
# [19:32] <Optimizer> it would definitely reach MB in minutes
# [19:32] <Optimizer> well, depends upon the activity in the session
# [19:32] <nemo> hrm. and of those MB, just how much of that is binary data? Is pretty incredible to have strings get that large
# [19:32] <nemo> Optimizer: binaries are often compressed already, like audio and video and images.
# [19:33] <nemo> in which case you should just store in native form in IDB
# [19:33] <Optimizer> and then how can the user take it to some other device and load it to read it again ?
# [19:33] <Optimizer> I *will* have to store it as a file at user provided location
# [19:33] <nemo> huh. m'k...
# [19:34] <nemo> Optimizer: normally syncing like that is done on a server :-p
# [19:34] <Optimizer> suppose you are on mobile, you cannot see the session live, so you just record it, copy it to desktop and load it
# [19:34] <Optimizer> again, no server :P
# [19:34] <nemo> I know. that's the weird part :)
# [19:34] <Optimizer> its a develoepr tool
# [19:34] <nemo> trying to use the web while ignoring the whole web part :)
# [19:34] <Optimizer> no web too
# [19:35] <nemo> Optimizer: oh cool. this is a gecko/xulrunner/whatever they are calling it these days thing?
# [19:35] <nemo> or B2G?
# [19:35] <Optimizer> _*The Timeline*_
# [19:35] <Optimizer> right now its an addon
# [19:35] <Optimizer> I will first create saving session and reading session support, and then port the backend for mobile so that it can be run in a mobile too
# [19:35] <Optimizer> (not b2g though)
# [19:36] <jdm> ehsan: do you know how to extract the list of patch authors from a mercurial repository?
# [19:36] <@ted> espindola: to get rietveld to do the right thing, either check the "send mail" checkbox when you update the issue, or use --send-mail if you're using upload.py
# [19:37] <@ted> jdm: you can probably just log with a --format
# [19:37] <jdm> hmm, good point
# [19:37] <@ehsan> jdm: hg log
# [19:37] <@ted> or if this is in bzexport or something you can loop over the changesets
# [19:37] <espindola> ted: will do, thanks
# [19:37] <@ehsan> jdm: with a template
# [19:37] <@ehsan> probably --template '{author}\n' or something
# [19:37] <@ted> yeah, that
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# [19:44] <sfink> glandium: please excuse any bugspam from that bug. I'm hoping it will allow me to reproduce the failure (which is why I can't just test with landfill or whatever.)
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# [19:46] <@ehsan> jdm: nice trick for getting faster try runs btw ;)
# [19:46] <jdm> heh
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# [19:47] <Optimizer> ehsan: did you analyzed the percentage of pbngen ?
# [19:47] <@ehsan> Optimizer: the percentage?
# [19:47] <Optimizer> (as you were saying yesterday or day before)
# [19:47] <Optimizer> not exactly .. :P
# [19:47] <joe> agghhhh
# [19:48] <glandium> Optimizer: wait, you're doing a gecko specific thing?
# [19:48] <Optimizer> yes
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# [19:48] <@ehsan> Optimizer: I'm not really sure what you're talking about
# [19:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90332928696a - Joe Drew - Backout 629c399c6f8c for breaking the tree
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# [19:48] <Mook_as> Optimizer: for your compression thing, are you allowed the use of xpcom?
# [19:49] <Optimizer> yes
# [19:49] <Optimizer> if it is on mobile too
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# [19:49] <glandium> Optimizer: why not use nsIZipWriter, then?
# [19:49] <Mook_as> that, or a stream converter (e.g. @mozilla.org/streamconv;1?from=uncompressed&to=x-gzip )
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# [19:50] <Optimizer> Ah, will that gzip for me ^^
# [19:50] <Optimizer> ehsan: 18:22 ehsan jdm: I'm trying to get a sense of how much work is remaining
# [19:50] <glandium> Mook_as: oh, i didn't know the stream converter could compress
# [19:50] <@ehsan> Optimizer: oh, ok. I have a vague sense but nothing even close to a percentage ;)
# [19:50] <Optimizer> Mook_as: is that same on android Firefox too ?
# [19:50] <@ehsan> we don't really do that kind of analysis at mozilla that often
# [19:51] <Optimizer> I know, I was just asking it for a fun fact
# [19:51] <Optimizer> so that I can boast my chrome user friends
# [19:51] <Optimizer> :P
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# [19:51] <Mook_as> Optimizer: I'd expect it to be, but I haven't touched mobile to test, so you probably want to check
# [19:51] <Optimizer> Mook_as: thanks :)
# [19:51] * Optimizer the hell with LZW and PNG
# [19:51] <glandium> Mook_as: does that actually give gzip headers, or just a deflate stream?
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# [19:52] <@ehsan> Optimizer: ok, let's say 76% complete then ;)
# [19:52] <Optimizer> ;)
# [19:52] <Ms2ger> Just use BMP ;)
# [19:52] <Mook_as> glandium: given that there are also converters to "rawdeflate" and "deflate", I'd hope it gives gzip headers...
# [19:52] <jhammel> BMP? forsooth! XBM ftw
# [19:53] <jhammel> if you need more than two colors....well....too bad
# [19:53] <Mook_as> but to be honest, I don't really know.
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# [19:54] <@bz> xpm
# [19:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78cef490d36d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 797219 - Make OutputMessage in gfx/2d/Logging.h static inline; r=joe
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# [19:55] <Optimizer> man, I led to a 2 hour conversation regarding compression :P
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# [19:56] <glandium> jlebar: hear, hear, your gzipwriter is useless ;)
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# [19:57] <jlebar> glandium, That necko stuff was seriously impossible to figure out.
# [19:57] <@smaug> since browser benchmarks are so popular in marketing, I wonder if we should have a benchmark for memory leaks :)
# [19:58] <Ms2ger> gps++
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# [19:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: ?
# [19:59] <Ms2ger> mach :)
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# [20:00] <jhammel> the best thing about mach will be its versioning
# [20:00] <jhammel> "we're approaching mach 5"
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# [20:00] <glandium> Mook_as, jlebar: actually, it doesn't look like it actually creates a gzip. it just changes the window parameter for the deflate stream
# [20:01] <glandium> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libjar/zipwriter/src/nsDeflateConverter.cpp#38
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# [20:02] <gps> apparently the Germans get upset when we pronounce "mach" like the sound barrier name
# [20:02] <gps> but, there are no Germans around today b/c national holiday, so I'm fine with letting it slide today :)
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# [20:02] <jlebar> gps, How is it supposed to be pronounced?
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# [20:03] <gps> the "ch" is apparently rough. you make a sound in the back of your throat. say "mach" like a Klingon would say it. that's how the German's speak
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# [20:03] <fabrice1> jlebar: a bit like "marrr"
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# [20:03] * jhammel gives gps http://www.angryflower.com/aposter.html :P
# [20:03] <espindola> ted: ok, the patch just removing the unused argument is at http://breakpad.appspot.com/477002/
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# [20:04] <gps> Germans, yeah yeah
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# [20:05] <gfritzsche> alright, spill your thoughts... ;)
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# [20:06] <gfritzsche> and no, i don't speak klingon
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# [20:07] <Archaeopteryx> romulanian spy!
# [20:07] <Pike> gps: actually, the dutch are the klingons
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# [20:08] <Bas> ehsan: Not that I mind, but why does that -need- to be static inline?
# [20:08] <@ehsan> Bas: compiler warnings
# [20:08] <Bas> I'd prefer the compiler to decide if it should best be inlined in all freedom, no need for the inline hint.
# [20:09] <Waldo> ...25% of Americans own a tablet‽
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# [20:09] <Waldo> wow
# [20:09] <@ehsan> Bas: and also, correctness
# [20:09] <Bas> ehsan: But -why- does the compiler warn?
# [20:09] <Bas> ehsan: Is the compiler confused?
# [20:09] <Bas> static != inline nor does it require inline.
# [20:09] <@ehsan> Bas: because of the linkage
# [20:09] <@ehsan> no, static in a header doesn't make any sense at all!
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# [20:09] <Waldo> jhammel++
# [20:09] <@ehsan> and the compiler is right on about that warning
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# [20:09] <Waldo> and gps++ for creating the version number thing in the first place
# [20:10] <Bas> ehsan: What? Why not.. without static it would be defined in multiple compile units.
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# [20:10] <Bas> Having a function in a header does -not- mean you explicitly want it inlined.
# [20:10] <@ehsan> Bas: static gives the function internal linkage
# [20:10] <@ehsan> and putting such functions in headers doesn't make sense
# [20:10] <Bas> ehsan: Right..
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# [20:11] <Bas> I don't understand you, I think it makes perfect sense, but, it seems like a silly discussion to spend engineering resources on :)
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# [20:11] <Waldo> ehsan, Bas: is this C++? if it is, inline implies static, for standalone methods
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# [20:11] <Bas> Waldo: Right, so static inline is pointless anyway.
# [20:12] <Waldo> yup
# [20:12] <Bas> But I explicitly made this -static- not inline :)
# [20:12] <@ehsan> I don't really wanna spend time debating this
# [20:12] <@ehsan> Bas: please back me out if you don't agree with the patch, I don't care much
# [20:12] <Waldo> do compilers even do anything with "inline" any more, wrt inlining decisions when compiling?
# [20:12] <Bas> ehsan: No no, it's fine :)
# [20:12] <@ehsan> Waldo: they don't
# [20:12] <jdm> ehsan: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Stewards/Coding/Group_10_03_12
# [20:12] <Bas> Waldo: To the best of my knowledge, no.
# [20:12] * Waldo understands "register" is totally useless, doesn't know about "inline"
# [20:13] <Bas> Only with __forceinline as far as I knopw.
# [20:13] <dholbert> Bas / ehsan: for the record, there was also a dev.platform thread on this exact topic :) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/Ulw9HoZbSyQ
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# [20:15] <dholbert> ([RE that thread]: it looks like there wasn't much of a consensus, but AFAICT the only support for the "woohoo static inline" position was w.r.t. C, not C++)
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# [20:16] <joe> agggghhhh
# [20:16] <joe> i accidentally deleted a } before pushing
# [20:16] <Bas> dholbert: Right :)
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# [20:16] <joe> caused 50,000 errors
# [20:16] <Bas> joe: I hate it when that kind of stuff happens :s
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# [20:17] <Waldo> anyone know where jrmuizel or however he goes on IRC is?
# [20:18] <@khuey> yesterday was his birthday
# [20:18] <@khuey> he might be off
# [20:18] <Waldo> alas
# [20:19] <Waldo> maybe I should just investigate alternatives more myself for now, anyway
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# [20:19] <Bas> Waldo: What are you looking at?
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# [20:20] <Bas> Waldo: Noone else on the graphics team that might be able to help?
# [20:20] <Waldo> Bas: not gfx-related directly, but sec
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# [20:20] <@khuey> Bas: the rest of you are useless :-P
# [20:20] <Bas> khuey: True that :)
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# [20:21] <Waldo> Bas: bug 792954; the idea in the patch I'm reviewing there seems all nice and stuff, but it seems odd that a |new| would actually be required in there, and that there can't be some other way to implement that that avoids that
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# [20:21] * Waldo doesn't see any |new| in the Google header referenced, for comparison
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# [20:21] <Archaeopteryx> the first word spoken here is the German "mach": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACvd6nsBKA&t=25s
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# [20:23] <@khuey> !seen mitchell
# [20:23] <firebot> mitchell was last seen 18 weeks, 1 day, 46 minutes and 8 seconds ago,
# [20:23] <glazou> yeah
# [20:23] <Waldo> I would imagine nine(?) in the evening is an unlikely time for mitchell to be on in any case
# [20:23] <Waldo> er, seven
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# [20:24] <Waldo> addition fail
# [20:24] <glazou> eight in fact
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# [20:24] <glazou> it's 8:14 here
# [20:24] <glazou> pm
# [20:24] <Waldo> hm, yeah, I guess Spain's west of GMT, isn't it
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# [20:24] <glazou> same TZ as france
# [20:24] <Archaeopteryx> Waldo: east
# [20:24] <Ms2ger> East, yes
# [20:24] <@khuey> spain should be in GMT
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# [20:24] <Ms2ger> Why?
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# [20:25] <Bas> Waldo: You're referring to WeakPtr.h:59?
# [20:25] <Waldo> Bas: yeah
# [20:27] <Waldo> Ms2ger: probably because, geographically, Spain's west or directly underneath Greenwich (which is why I was also guessing west)
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# [20:28] <glazou> west of europe has two columns : great britain and the others :-)
# [20:28] <@ted> is anyone else seeing horrible redrawing issues in today's windows nightly?
# [20:28] <@ted> like all sorts of things are not invalidating properly
# [20:28] <Ms2ger> glazou, how about Portugal?
# [20:28] <zwol> I hear it's even worse living in western China
# [20:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cc97bf59962 - Bas Schouten - Bug 797231: Don't overwrite mPathTransform if the transform already changed. r=joedrew
# [20:28] <nemo> glazou: if the paris prime meridian had won out, it probably would have been just one :)
# [20:28] <glazou> Ms2ger: oh right
# [20:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfa23be4f73c - Bas Schouten - Bug 797314: Only push one group and ensure all of the background gets copied in PushGroupAndCopyBackground. r=joedrew
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# [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f6b48dea5fc - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 797435 - Add rooting of IC stub IonCodes to OOL exit frames. (r=dvander)
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# [20:34] <@khuey> I hate it when Firefox crashes because of a known bug
# [20:34] <@khuey> if it's going to crash it should be for something totally new!
# [20:35] <@ehsan> Waldo: I can track him down personally if you can't find him :)
# [20:35] <Waldo> heh
# [20:35] * @ehsan is not kidding
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# [20:36] <Waldo> he's blocking reviews in the rest of my queue, but only because I'm a semi-FIFO guy for reviewing; probably I should just skip this one and move to the others for now :-)
# [20:36] <Waldo> obsessive-compulsive, what's that?
# [20:36] <vlad> how do I run mochitest-o locally?
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> vlad, which part?
# [20:37] <@ehsan> Waldo: I'll bother him locally, you usually need to talk to him to get any reviews ;)
# [20:37] <Bas> Waldo: I don't see an obvious way to avoid the new.
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# [20:38] <Waldo> ehsan: *I'm* reviewing *his* patch, not the other way around :-)
# [20:38] <@ehsan> Waldo: oh, well, then I have totally misunderstood you
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# [20:38] <Waldo> heh
# [20:38] <Waldo> glad that's cleared up!
# [20:38] <Waldo> hm, yes, what I said wasn't unambiguous, was it
# [20:39] <@ehsan> Waldo: it was actually pretty good, it just that I was fighting the build system at the same time
# [20:39] <Waldo> understandable!
# [20:39] <mconley> !seen roc
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# [20:40] <@ehsan> Waldo: he's on the phone
# [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/134f5b1d6d50 - Joe Drew - Bug 795940 - Always hold on to a reference to our image from a ScaleRequest so it can't delete itself while we're outstanding. r=jlebar
# [20:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6925601f4299 - Joe Drew - Bug 796174 - Only use the high-quality downscaler on downscales, not 1.0 scales. r=jlebar
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# [20:43] <@ehsan> does anybody know how to add js modules?
# [20:43] <@ehsan> I've added my jsm file to the EXTRA_JS_MODULES variable in the makefile
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# [20:43] <@ehsan> but nothing appears in my modules directory when I rebuild
# [20:44] <mwu> ehsan: in dist/bin or dist/firefox?
# [20:44] <@ehsan> mwu: dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/modules
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# [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ec6bc05c62f - Blake Kaplan - Bug 784766 - Verify that we only talk to processes that have permission to talk to us. r=cjones
# [20:45] <mwu> er, hm, I forgot how osx works there
# [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d5ac783d657 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 791911 - Listen for our child message managers dying and remove them from our list of managers to 'broadcast' to. r=gwagner
# [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d0e0a533775 - Bonnie Surender - Bug 792952, B2G wifi scanning js. r=mrbkap
# [20:45] <Luqman> hi jdm
# [20:45] <jrmuizel> Waldo: pong
# [20:45] <@ehsan> Waldo: let me know if he escapes again ;)(
# [20:45] <Waldo> heh
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# [20:46] <@ehsan> khuey: ted: glandium: ping
# [20:46] <@ted> ehsan: pong
# [20:46] <@ehsan> ted: how do I add a new js module?
# [20:46] <@ehsan> EXTRA_JS_MODULES does not work
# [20:46] <@ted> um
# [20:46] <@ted> that seems like it should work
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# [20:46] <@ted> oh you're on mac
# [20:46] <@ehsan> well
# [20:46] <@ehsan> yes
# [20:46] <@ted> you have to rebuild in browser/app
# [20:46] <@ted> to get stuff into the bundle
# [20:46] <@ehsan> I did ./mach build
# [20:46] <@ehsan> isn't that enough?
# [20:46] <Waldo> jrmuizel: looking at bug 792954 now, trying to see if there's some way to avoid the |new| in there; I haven't grokked the code enough to quite understand exactly what's happening there, to say if there's some way to avoid it
# [20:46] <@ted> i...don't know?
# [20:46] <@ehsan> crap
# [20:47] <@ted> is it in dist/bin/modules ?
# [20:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f42211cc87cd - Karl Tomlinson - b=408284 clear transparency bitmap when window is hidden r=roc
# [20:47] <@ehsan> let me see
# [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4aac63aa19dc - Chris Coulson - b=408284 use ARGB visuals for popup windows when window manager is compositing r=karlt
# [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f2eac1712ef - Karl Tomlinson - b=795812 shape out translucent windows where alpha < 1/2 r=roc
# [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c2cfb9e0b45 - Chris Coulson - b=408284 let MozContainer widgets inherit parent colormap instead of explicitly setting rgb colormap r=karlt
# [20:47] <@ted> oh wait
# [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6552072432a2 - Karl Tomlinson - b=408284 no need to apply transparency bitmap on each show r=roc
# [20:47] <@ted> nvm
# [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2fd5b6ca0d9 - Karl Tomlinson - b=408284 don't shape for transparency on ARGB windows r=roc
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# [20:47] <jrmuizel> Waldo: the 'new' in asWeakPtr?
# [20:47] <@ehsan> hmm
# [20:47] <@ted> was going to ask something then realized i was wrong
# [20:47] <@khuey> ehsan: pong
# [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/139ec19e88be - Karl Tomlinson - b=795812 add border to panelarrow r=dao
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# [20:47] <@ehsan> ted: so it is in dist/bin/modules
# [20:47] <Waldo> jrmuizel: yes
# [20:47] <@ehsan> khuey: nm
# [20:48] <@ehsan> glandium: unping
# [20:48] <@ehsan> oh heh
# [20:48] <Waldo> like, it doesn't *feel* like what's happening here should have that potential bit of fallibility
# [20:48] <@ehsan> well
# [20:48] <@ehsan> ted: I think it was my own mistake
# [20:48] <jrmuizel> Waldo: I don't think it can be avoided because it's lifetime can survive beyond the lifetime of SupportsWeakPtr
# [20:48] <@ehsan> gimme a sec
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# [20:49] <sewardj> gkw, Jesse: patch re the error-exitcode thing is at 631811 c 18
# [20:49] <gkw> sewardj: got it
# [20:49] <@ehsan> Waldo: yeah I thought about removing that new too, but doesn't seem to be possible
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# [20:49] <gkw> will take a look later
# [20:49] <gkw> thanks!
# [20:49] <sewardj> gkw: yw
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# [20:55] <decoder> espindola: whats the highest version of clang we have available for building on mac?
# [20:56] <decoder> someone is hitting http://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/issues/detail?id=109 with firefox
# [20:56] <decoder> that is fixed but not in 161xxx which we seem to be using
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# [20:58] <espindola> decoder: I just started working on bug 784691 again. That should get us r162360
# [20:58] <decoder> the fix is in 163716
# [20:58] <decoder> can we go up to that at least?
# [20:59] <espindola> decoder: and fo bug 793109 I will need r164411, so we will get there.
# [20:59] <decoder> thanks! =)
# [20:59] <espindola> should be fast if it doesn't drag me into another measurement bias madness in talos ...
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# [21:00] <espindola> decoder: can you open a bug just a reminder?
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# [21:00] <espindola> just as a...
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# [21:01] <decoder> espindola: what component would that be?
# [21:01] <espindola> decoder: we are still using releng in mozilla.org
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# [21:03] <vlad> for this.foo.addEventListener("mousemove", this, false)
# [21:03] <vlad> which "arg 1" is that?
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# [21:04] <vlad> bz: you may know this.. if I get a NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS for "could not convert JS argument arg 1 [nsIDOMEventTarget.addEventListener]" for this.foo.addEventListener("mousemove", this, false)
# [21:04] <vlad> which arg 1 is that? "mousemove"? "this.foo"? "this"?
# [21:04] <zzzzz> m-c tbpl has some burning win builds
# [21:05] <zzzzz> xul.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 2 unresolved externals
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# [21:07] <vlad> for some reason it doesn't think is a nsIDOMEventListener
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# [21:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/075ac84bff66 - Benoit Girard - Bug 797359 - Increase size of tile debug overlay. r=Cwiiis
# [21:16] * @khuey shakes his fist in BenWa's direction
# [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c2b826588d3 - Kyle Huey - Bug 780778: Make sure we already release stuff on the right thread. r=bent
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# [21:19] <BenWa> khuey: Too slow!
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# [21:20] <@khuey> BenWa: yesterday I lost twice before I succeeded
# [21:20] <BenWa> hg pull --rebase && hg push
# [21:20] <Waldo> if you're pushing all your patches at once, which I almost never do
# [21:21] <BenWa> I have an inbound checkout
# [21:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/da6230dfa32e - Gary Kwong - Bug 696305 - Add another 64-bit suppression for bug 793533. DONTBUILD
# [21:21] <BenWa> I only add patches when I'm ready to land them
# [21:21] <Waldo> and that assumes you're willing to push without a final o -p review
# [21:21] <BenWa> o -p?
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# [21:23] <jorendorff> Where does the window.onerror machinery live? /cc:bz,bholley
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# [21:24] <nemo> Waldo: offload your memory onto technology, then improve your volatile indexing system :)
# [21:24] <@khuey> jorendorff: MXR for nsScriptErrorEvent
# [21:24] <decoder> espindola: ok thx will file now
# [21:24] <Waldo> nemo: I was; I just haven't opened that browser/profile in a few weeks
# [21:24] <Waldo> BenWa: outgoing -p
# [21:25] <jorendorff> yay
# [21:25] <BenWa> ahh, well if there was a problem likely the rebase would of failed
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# [21:26] * Waldo is confident enough in the rebase implementation to do that, but
# [21:26] <Waldo> I also figure it never hurts to do a last once-over to look for stupidity :-)
# [21:26] <BenWa> haha. I always check it over once
# [21:27] <BenWa> I didn't know about -p. I would just hg export <id> each of them
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# [21:28] <Waldo> I do know others who are not that confident in the rebase algorithm, too :-)
# [21:29] <cjones> ted, bug 797314
# [21:29] <cjones> most likely
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> gkw, so...
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> gkw, nvm
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# [21:32] <jorendorff> khuey++ correct quantity of help
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# [21:32] <@ted> cjones: ah, thanks
# [21:32] <@khuey> jorendorff: :-D
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# [21:33] <@ted> espindola: were you going to post an updated version of that patch after you split off the refactoring bit?
# [21:33] <espindola> ted: I posted one with the refactoring
# [21:34] <@ted> i saw that
# [21:34] <@ted> i meant the other patch
# [21:34] <espindola> I have the changes you asked, but since the tests only build on linux
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# [21:34] <espindola> I am just waiting for a build to finish to start my fedora17 vm
# [21:37] <gkw> Ms2ger: ?
# [21:37] <Ms2ger> gkw, I commented on the bug
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# [21:38] <@ted> espindola: okay, gotcha
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# [21:38] <gkw> Ms2ger: oh, the regression leak? ah, i suppressed the new one now, if you did rename the old one i should remove the old one as well
# [21:38] <Ms2ger> gkw, makes sense :)
# [21:38] <gkw> Ms2ger: thanks
# [21:39] <Ms2ger> Np
# [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7ff5aecff0c - Brad Lassey - bug 785291 - Add support to load fonts from an APK, extract fonts from APK r=jfkthame
# [21:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5542e7d20676 - Jonathan Kew - bug 619521 pt 2 - load fonts from the current profile as well as the Android system fonts. r=jdagget
# [21:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a788605acfe - Brad Lassey - bug 785291 - Add support to load fonts from an APK, search for fonts in res/fonts r=jfkthame
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# [22:05] <@ehsan> https://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/484029
# [22:05] <@ehsan> neat
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# [22:05] <Ms2ger> ehsan, which Persona is this? B2G?
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# [22:09] <jorendorff> pfft
# [22:09] <jdm> I refuse to believe that 700k users have installed the yahoo persona by choice
# [22:09] <jdm> https://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/340931
# [22:09] <Bas> I wonder if we should respin nightly because of bug 797314 :s
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# [22:10] <Bas> jdm: I refuse to believe people install persona's by choice. But alas, I am wrong :p
# [22:10] <jdm> Bas: it's the first thing I do on a new install!
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# [22:10] <Bas> jdm: Then again, I don't understand people using facebook or twitter, or watching silly videos of cats on YouTube :)
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# [22:10] <dholbert> jdm, I think it's from people installing the yahoo-released build of firefox
# [22:10] <dholbert> http://downloads.yahoo.com/firefox/
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# [22:10] <Bas> So I'm sure it's me, and not you :)
# [22:11] <jdm> dholbert: yeah, that's what I suspected.
# [22:11] <jhammel> what's wrong with watching silly videos of cats?
# [22:11] <jhammel> twitter and facebook i'll agree are worthless...but cats?
# [22:11] <Bas> jhammel: Nothing, nothing, I just don't understand the entertainment value :)
# [22:11] <jhammel> they're cats!
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# [22:12] <jhammel> Ms2ger: it sounds like he doesn't use the internet anyway ;)
# [22:13] <Bas> jhammel: Right, felis catus, a carnivorous feline species quite well documented. I fail to see how further observation could serve any purpose.
# [22:13] <jhammel> even that description makes my heart melt ^..^
# [22:13] <Bas> jhammel: Heh :)
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# [22:14] <Bas> jhammel: My usage of the internet is quite limited, it's true :)
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# [22:15] <benjamin> I'm seeing "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications."
# [22:16] <benjamin> when I start my own build of nightly
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# [22:16] <benjamin> and it is always asking me if I want to set nightly as the default...
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# [22:22] <espindola> ted: ok, uploaded the patch without the dead argument removal and with your review
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# [22:28] <mkaply> Is there some public statement as to why Mozilla doesn't do official 64 bit windows builds?
# [22:28] <@ehsan> dholbert: I love how yahoo pretends that the new tab page is part of their features
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# [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc14486d0742 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 794884. Make SupportImageWithMimeType a static function. r=joe,r=bz
# [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a71c92af5a4 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 794884. Make SupportImageWithMimeType return a bool. r=joe.
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# [22:33] <edmorley|away> inbound closed for M3 orange; I'm heading out someone needs to investigate
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# [22:37] <Ms2ger> joe, ping
# [22:37] <joe> Ms2ger: hi
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# [22:38] <Ms2ger> joe, RasterImage leaks on inbound... Can I blame you?
# [22:38] <joe> yeah probably
# [22:38] <joe> argh
# [22:38] <joe> at xpcom shutdown do we automatically shut down all threads?
# [22:38] <Ms2ger> Don't forget "CLOSED TREE" :)
# [22:40] <efaust> is there some hook that won't allow pushes without that phrase if the tree is closed?
# [22:40] <NeilAway> jhammel: we used to support xbm :s
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> efaust, correct
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> http://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom/hghooks/file/tip/mozhghooks/treeclosure.py if you're interested
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# [22:42] <decoder> espindola: filed 797525
# [22:42] <espindola> decoder: thanks
# [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9737260d1647 - Joe Drew - Back out 134f5b1d6d50 for leaking at shutdown on a CLOSED TREE
# [22:43] <@ehsan> inbound open again
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# [22:43] <Ms2ger> joe, are you starring? :)
# [22:43] <joe> Ms2ger: yeah ok
# [22:43] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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# [22:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdb19bc19fdb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 797227 - Remove nsDownloadManager::mDownloadType; r=mak
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# [22:45] <karl> benjamin: can you file a bug blocking bug 713802, please? I'm not reproducing here, so interested in you OS set up, and whether you have gsettings-desktop-schemas installed
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# [22:46] <benjamin> karl: will do
# [22:46] <karl> thanks
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# [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14fe82a53d68 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 787054 - Make the UA string OS agnostic again, use UserAgentOverrides.jsm to white-list sites that need "Android" [r=dao,gerv]
# [22:47] <efaust> O.o kungFuDeathGrip?
# [22:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2545d8e6f3be - Fabrice Desré - merge
# [22:48] <bhearsum> efaust: to make sure it doesn't get away
# [22:48] <benjamin> efaust: xpcom is a kung fu master
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# [22:51] <efaust> benjamin: xpcom is a drunken kung-fu-master
# [22:51] <tbsaunde> with only one move
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# [22:51] <efaust> what move is that, tbsaunde?
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# [22:52] <tbsaunde> efaust: the death grip
# [22:52] <benjamin> do_QueryInterface!
# [22:52] <efaust> benjamin: :(:(:(
# [22:52] <tbsaunde> benjamin: QueryInterface() forever!
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# [22:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83d17569d789 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 662246. Log image url in profiles during decoding. r=joe
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# [23:02] <@smaug> tn: ping
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# [23:03] <jimm> is there a bug open on all the win rendering problems today?
# [23:04] <@smaug> jimm: today or something a bit older
# [23:04] <@smaug> dlbi landed last weekend
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# [23:05] <@smaug> Bug 539356
# [23:05] <jimm> seems to be new in today's nightly. I have a google search results page that's 90% all background, no text. if you move the mouse around, the links show up.
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# [23:11] <jorendorff> jdm: ping
# [23:11] <jdm> jorendorff: yo yo
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# [23:11] <jorendorff> jdm: hey, i was looking at bug 503244
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# [23:12] <jorendorff> jdm: have you talked with bholley about it yet?
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# [23:12] <jdm> jorendorff: nope
# [23:12] <mccr8> So, what does it mean if my build fails with Clang with this error: widget/cocoa/nsMacWebAppUtils.mm:49:34: error: implicit conversion of NULL constant to 'NSWorkspaceLaunchOptions' Is there some way to fix that? Or should I try doing a clean build...
# [23:12] <jorendorff> jdm: yeah - i want to be in that discussion
# [23:13] <tn> smaug, pong
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# [23:13] <bholley> jdm: hi
# [23:13] <jorendorff> bholley!
# [23:13] <jorendorff> I agree with jdm, it is definitely appropriate to ask what xpconnect can do in this case
# [23:13] * bholley ducks
# [23:13] <jorendorff> let's chat in #jsapi
# [23:14] <bholley> ok
# [23:14] <@smaug> tn: what kinds of views don't have frames
# [23:14] <@smaug> (GetFrame() returns null )
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# [23:16] <jimm> smaug: filed bug 797549
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# [23:17] <tn> smaug, the inner view of plugins, the inner view of subdocument frames, and the root view can be frameless temporarily
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# [23:17] <@smaug> tn: but usually the rootview of a viewmanager has frame
# [23:17] <@smaug> ?
# [23:18] <tn> smaug, yes. if it is very early in the life of the presentation before frames are constructed it could not have a frame
# [23:18] <@smaug> k
# [23:18] <@smaug> tn: and the frame is the root frame?
# [23:18] <tn> smaug, yes
# [23:19] <@smaug> tn: so presshell->GetRootFrame() == presshell->GetViewManager()->GetRootView()->GetFrame() ?
# [23:19] <@smaug> in normal cases
# [23:19] <tn> smaug, yeah, that should be true
# [23:19] <@smaug> ok, thanks
# [23:19] <@smaug> that is what I expected
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# [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0984909abb53 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 779611 - part 3 - port WebGL extensions to WebIDL bindings, refactor them - r=bz,jgilbert
# [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed26b7f1a02a - Benoit Jacob - Bug 779611 - part 2 - drop old bindings for WebGLUniformLocation - r=bz
# [23:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6bbbe8b8614 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 779611 - part 1 - port WebGLShaderPrecisionFormat to WebIDL bindings - r=bz
# [23:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5a4c320de96 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 779611 - part 4 - More WebGL extensions cleanup - r-jgilbert
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# [23:26] <karl> benjamin: thanks for filing, can you tell me which package pulled in gsettings-desktop-schemas? it's odd to have those settings installed but no means to set them
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# [23:26] <karl> benjamin: equery depends gsettings-desktop-schemas
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# [23:35] <nmatsakis> anyone know of a tool that can tell me, for a given merge conflict, which were the two revisions that made conflicting modifications?
# [23:35] <nmatsakis> seems like it'd be awfully helpful
# [23:35] <@khuey> a coin will do that with 50% accuracy
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# [23:35] <@khuey> (no, I don't have a helpful answer)
# [23:35] <nmatsakis> not...really?
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# [23:35] <nmatsakis> I mean I'd take a coin if only it were true! :)
# [23:36] <@khuey> ah, yes, I suppose you're right
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# [23:36] <nmatsakis> :)
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# [23:38] <jorendorff> Is there a way to use Try Server to test an ESR10 tree?
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# [23:39] <@khuey> don't think so
# [23:40] <jorendorff> ok.
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# [23:42] <bjacob> not to brag, but #toronto totally owns mozilla-inbound today
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# [23:43] <BenWa> jorendorff: Can't you just push your tip of ESR10 to try?
# [23:43] <BenWa> ehsan: ^^?
# [23:43] <jorendorff> won't build
# [23:43] <BenWa> Ohh different compilers and stuff erkk
# [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b313eadbbc11 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 655877 - Part 23b: Add UA style sheet rules to map xml:space='preserve' to white-space:-moz-pre-discard-newlines on SVG text elements. r=jwatt
# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2bd4764667c - Cameron McCormack - Bug 797290 - #undef DATA_NODE_FLAG_BIT like other content flag bit macros. r=Ms2ger
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# [23:45] <benjamin> karl: libgnomeproxy and libgioproxy
# [23:45] <Jesse> nmatsakis: for bonus points, write an extension to "hg bisect" that can tell you which two changesets colluded to cause a crash
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# [23:46] <nmatsakis> Jesse: have you seen the research along those lines?
# [23:47] <nmatsakis> Jesse: it's very nifty
# [23:47] <Jesse> no
# [23:47] <benjamin> karl: evidently it's pulled in by glib-networking
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# [23:47] <nmatsakis> Jesse: check this out http://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/papers/fse2002/
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# [23:47] <karl> benjamin: i guess that might be from the "gnome" build flag
# [23:48] <nmatsakis> Jesse: but more generally here http://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/dd/
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# [23:48] <nmatsakis> Jesse: and here I bet you were joking ;)
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# [23:48] <benjamin> I'm sort of surprised I have the gnome build flag
# [23:48] <benjamin> considering I use kde...
# [23:48] <nmatsakis> Jesse: I know they have some variants that do make use of the revision history
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# [23:49] <benjamin> oh, glib-networking has IUSE="+gnome"
# [23:49] <karl> oh, odd
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# [23:50] <benjamin> karl: so is the problem ff is assuming glib settings is around when it should be using something else?
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# [23:52] <karl> benjamin: well, ff tests whether the settings are there; it sounds like the presence of glib-desktop-schemas makes gio report that the settings are there, even though it cannot save them, or read them from anywhere
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# [23:52] <benjamin> oh, ha
# [23:52] <benjamin> how did this work before?
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# [23:52] <karl> benjamin: before we only used GConf
# [23:53] <karl> which i assume you don't have installed, so we didn't ask the question
# [23:53] <Optimizer> today's nightly is the worst
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# [23:53] <karl> benjamin: i guess we could only offer to set a default browser if there is already a default browser set, but i'm not sure that is the right thing to do
# [23:53] <Optimizer> damn you dlbi,s crolling regressions, no painting on moz animation keyframes until mouse moved, missing paints, scrollbars
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# [23:54] <benjamin> karl: I could also just install some backend
# [23:54] * benjamin assumes the weird gentoo users can figure it out :)
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# [23:54] <karl> benjamin: yes, if it is only gentoo, then users are probably used to this sort of thing
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# [23:54] <karl> benjamin: do you have Gentoo's firefox build? does that do the same?
# [23:56] <benjamin> karl: yeah, the one in the gentoo build gives the same
# [23:56] <benjamin> so I guess it's not much of a problem
# [23:56] <karl> ok, thanks
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# [23:57] <karl> benjamin: i wonder why glib-networking has IUSE=+gnome; that sounds like the core of the problem
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# [23:57] <RyanVM> Bas: ping
# [23:58] <gkw> bholley: perhaps you could put bug 795281 in the right component?
# [23:58] <bholley> gkw: I see UrlClassifierUpdateObserverProxy in the stack, but I couldn't find a bugzilla component for it
# [23:58] <benjamin> karl: indeed
# [23:58] <benjamin> the only reason it was brought in was networkmanager
# [23:58] <benjamin> it seems
# [23:59] <gkw> mccr8: do you know the bugzilla component for "UrlClassifierUpdateObserverProxy" ?
# [23:59] <mccr8> gkw: safe browsing maybe?
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# [23:59] <gkw> mccr8: ok, sounds good
# [23:59] <mccr8> gkw: when I'm not sure, I usually look at the hg blame for the file, then look at corresponding bugs to see where they are filed.
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