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# [00:03] <@roc> are our debug test builds built with optimizations on?
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# [00:03] <mccr8> roc: yes, by default
# [00:03] <@roc> ok
# [00:03] <@roc> good
# [00:03] <@dolske> yes? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/config/mozconfigs/win32/debug
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# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb274a7b7b9d - David Anderson - Respect object's extensibility in addprop ICs (bug 805747, r=djvj).
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# [00:22] <markh> if I want to run a try push against the beta branch, I just do it "normally", right? ie, just pull from beta, apply the couple of mq patches and push to try?
# [00:23] <@gavin> yes
# [00:23] <@gavin> except that it might not work very well
# [00:23] <markh> heh
# [00:23] <@gavin> if there have been build config changes since beta
# [00:23] <@gavin> or if you're the first person to be pushing all of beta to try
# [00:24] <markh> yeah, well I seem to have pushed alot :)
# [00:24] <markh> ~50 changesets
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# [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea64bf0290d5 - Justin Lebar - Bug 802647 - Send browser screenshots as blobs, not base-64 strings. r=khuey,daleharvey
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# [00:28] <philor> markh: beta doesn't build Windows with pymake, but try expects pymake to work; beta builds Linux on hardware slaves, but try expects mock on ec2 slaves to work; it's at least vaguely possible you'll get Mac builds to work, can't remember about that
# [00:29] <philor> Windows? yeah, you're not going to have a good time
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# [00:31] <markh> mkay...
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# [00:31] <philor> we have a separate tryserver repo for that, it's called releases/mozilla-beta/ ;)
# [00:31] <taras> jmaher: can you fix 802475?
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# [00:31] <markh> oh
# [00:32] <taras> ie make that not fail until we figure out why it's failing
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# [00:32] <markh> oops - missed the wink :)
# [00:32] <philor> markh: no oh, I mean http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/ is the tryserver
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# [00:33] <markh> philor: ah - I just noticed the orange in bug 807225 was also seen on inbound, so I guess I could just stick with that
# [00:35] <philor> markh: yeah, there might have even been one on inbound first, during one of the infra explosions so I didn't file it then
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# [00:42] <nemo> so I just got a new chromebook that I plan to put ubuntu on
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# [00:42] <nemo> but I was curious
# [00:42] <nemo> are there B2G images for these? :)
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# [00:50] <philor> don't suppose anyone wants to be a backout hero?
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# [00:50] <Callek> philor: what branch/cset
# [00:51] <Callek> philor: and by hero do you just mean you need someone to perform th ebackout, or be on the hook to watch it
# [00:51] * Callek is more likely able to be on the hook if someone else does the backout that to do the backout
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# [00:53] <philor> Callek: inbound 533faa3c50ed:a92d2d2a3b0e, though the true hero would back out a set of equal size from 05:30 or so
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# [00:54] <Callek> [my m-c/m-i tree is old atm]
# [00:54] <philor> a03d8d4db1c2:082cf8d72554 which has something on top of it, my lunch hour wasn't long enough to determine what's on top of it
# [00:54] <philor> eh, screw it, I'm closing the tree again
# [00:56] <philor> after all, look what that's done for aurora!
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# [01:13] <firebot> Check-in:
# [01:13] <edmorley> philor: turned out to need 5f405fc4e323:d4884aab5ce6 too
# [01:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2301d07ca953 - Ed Morley - Backout 533faa3c50ed, 718abc1bd4ad, af2d5272c06b, ad5554e1345d, c9ef1b41b829, d3a825311d11, 0a51bcb3eb9e, a01a327e8ec4, 973b0ed30b8b, 39851bbcfaa1 & a92d2d2a3b0e (bug
# [01:13] <firebot> 805162), d4884aab5ce6, 06fcbaf40cb4, daccc3fe7c70, 881eb2a2906e, 76232441ae06, 01ae34fa1b3f & 5f405fc4e323 (bug 783092), a03d8d4db1c2, 49beb3801192, 174634554a97, 0bd27e755a83, 19e8f151ca67, a6604e038bc0, ed3b8237e76e & 082cf8d72554 (bug 785945) for
# [01:13] <firebot> bustage or conflicting with backout of said bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [01:15] <philor> edmorley++
# [01:15] <philor> oh, it's barely after midnight, here I thought you were working late :)
# [01:16] <edmorley> lol
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# [01:16] <philor> oh, sure, *now* you show up
# [01:16] <RyanVM> edmorley: are we waiting for builds to go green on the backouts before reopening?
# [01:16] <RyanVM> sometimes, being on the east coast for halloween has its perks
# [01:17] <philor> no, it's android, we'd wait forever if we waited for green
# [01:17] <RyanVM> so we can reopen?
# [01:17] <philor> "closed until we have green android m2 and m8, or the heat death of the universe, which will probably come first"
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# [01:17] <edmorley> may someone mark the bugs backed out (I'm not sure exactly what bustage each was for
# [01:18] <RyanVM> hah
# [01:18] <edmorley> (783092 was just for conflicts)
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# [01:19] <RyanVM> i'll post the notes in the bugs
# [01:19] <RyanVM> but I'm just going to tell them that they need to run the patch through Try before relanding
# [01:19] <philor> heh
# [01:19] <edmorley> ha, the bug comment that accompanied bug 783092's changesets was "Landed safely in inbound"
# [01:20] <jcranmer> edmorley, RyanVM: you watch trees regularly, right?
# [01:20] <philor> jchen knows why, lucasr got the hook for robocop crashes, and the other just got in the way
# [01:20] <RyanVM> jcranmer: for some definition of regularly
# [01:20] <edmorley> jcranmer: yes, during uk hours
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# [01:20] <edmorley> for some definition of hours :-)
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# [01:21] <jcranmer> could I ask one of you to post to bug 803530 if Dxr fails in the next few days?
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# [01:21] <mjrosenb> is --with-arch part of some predefined configure magic?
# [01:21] <mjrosenb> I can't see with-arch in configure.in
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# [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6ccd1d30c15 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795769 - Add "bootstrap" command to mach; r=ted
# [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a52ba9b1542 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 807329 - fix AudioEventTimeline.h for compilers that don't support enum classes; r=ehsan
# [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00a6fa232bec - William Chen - Bug 807034 - Fix WebIDL codegen for static readonly attributes. r=bz
# [01:21] <edmorley> jcranmer: I'll add a note to remind me, I don't normally watch &noignore=1
# [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff32bc769775 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [01:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3162d35c6ffd - Gregory Szorc - Bug 795772 - More mach options to control xpcshell test execution; r=ted
# [01:22] <jcranmer> edmorley: ok, thanks
# [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/604634b91270 - Alexandre Lissy - Bug 787812 - Add Nexus S pixels constants. r=kchen
# [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baa695a1f5ca - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 800102 - Work around adb deadlock when installing gecko in emulator, r=ahal
# [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86e5da1a0a52 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 803451 - GPS code prompts even when GPS is disabled. r=dougt
# [01:22] <jcranmer> I don't do enough watching to remember to see it every few days
# [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91fc43bf582a - Mario Alvarado [:marioalv] - Bug 796190 - Right border of popup notification menu button becomes dark when focused. r=mleibovic
# [01:22] <jcranmer> mjrosenb: it's part of arch.m4
# [01:23] <jcranmer> build/autoconf/arch.m4
# [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/858e49a77dca - Gregor Wagner - Bug 776668 - Split permission for Settings/Contacts access into ReadOnly and ReadWrite variants. r=ddahl
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# [01:24] <jcranmer> mjrosenb: [note that aclocal.m4 automatically includes (almost?) all the .m4 files in build/autoconf
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# [01:24] <RyanVM> edmorley: doesn't look like I'll be doing a merge tonight fwiw
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# [01:28] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: cool.
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# [01:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b628536b1d3 - Randell Jesup - Bug 807103: plug leak of PeerConnectionImpl in PeerConnection r=anant
# [01:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5eb2dc37b784 - Randell Jesup - Bug 807109: Turn off SO_LINGER for SCTP sockets in DataChannels r=ekr
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# [01:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/edbe5d1301fc - Gregor Wagner - Bug 807463 - [sms] Fix SMS DB upgrade code. r=philikon
# [01:31] <philor> woo, down to one unstarred since 5am, until the next time tbpl refreshes
# [01:35] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: do you know if MOZ_ARG_WITH_STRING takes an optional string, or if you always need to provide it?
# [01:41] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: relatedly, do you know if it is possible to override the command that we use for linking executables?
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# [01:45] <jcranmer> mjrosenb: to your first question, I don't know
# [01:45] <jcranmer> to your second, I don't think it's possible
# [01:46] <mjrosenb> perhaps I can overwrite LD?
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# [01:51] <romaxa> ted: ping
# [01:52] <Bas> What is the right build magic to build 64-bit on windows?
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# [01:53] <RyanVM> philor: s/the next time tbpl refreshes/RyanVM's push starts getting test results
# [01:53] <romaxa> ted: on attempt to build js-jit on IOS6 I see this Undefined symbols for architecture armv7: "___aeabi_idivmod", referenced from: js::ion::CodeGeneratorARM::visitDivI(js::ion::LDivI*) ... is it eabi issue or just linking problem?
# [01:53] <romaxa> mjrosenb: ^
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# [01:53] <romaxa> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896097
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# [01:53] <philor> RyanVM: I'm on the front desk in 3 minutes, as long as it holds out until after that I'm good
# [01:53] <RyanVM> heh
# [01:54] <markh> Bas: http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/How_To_Build_Windows_x64_Build worked for me
# [01:54] <Bas> markh: Ah! I was looking on our own Wiki :p
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# [01:54] <markh> yeah, seems strange to me too!
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# [01:55] <jmaher> taras: I don't know how to fix 802475. It sounds like we want to keep it around as a counter; I looked into it for a while locally and I tried a few try runs out; no luck
# [01:56] <Bas> markh: Configure's working, so looking good, thanks! :)
# [01:56] <markh> np
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# [02:06] <markh> are there any good examples (or simple explanation) for how an XBL widget can provide its own implementation for a <method> and have that impl call the "base" implementation?
# [02:07] <@gavin> markh: there's no good way :(
# [02:07] <@gavin> you can override, but can't refer to the base version
# [02:07] <markh> ack - oh well - lucky for me the base impl is only a single line :)
# [02:07] <@gavin> so what we've done in some cases is rename the base version to _baseVersion
# [02:07] <@gavin> and then have baseVersion just call _baseVersion
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# [02:07] <markh> right, thnks
# [02:08] <@gavin> and override baseVersion to do extra stuff, and then call _baseVersion
# [02:08] <@gavin> really gross
# [02:08] <markh> yeah
# [02:08] <@gavin> xbl2 was going to solve that
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# [02:08] <@gavin> but really, what wasn't it going to solve? :)
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# [02:31] <seth> hmm.. i find myself in a position where i really want to change the arguments of a method that I believe is accessible by scripts. i assume i can't do that =\
# [02:31] <jesup> RyanVM: ping
# [02:31] <RyanVM> jesup: pong
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# [02:33] <markh> yeah, let's reverse the first 2 args of setTimeout - that always screws me and is unnatural for additional args! :)
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# [02:33] <jesup> I'm a little confused; I'm not seeing the linux builds from my inbound push. Any idea what's up? I do my dev on linux, so that's generally the last place I'd get unexpected failures (though it's not impossible). I pushed a try of just linux as a confirmation, but it's still building
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# [02:33] <@bz> seth: it depends on the method
# [02:33] <jesup> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=5eb2dc37b784
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# [02:33] <@bz> seth: is it part of the web platform, or something we made up?
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# [02:34] <RyanVM> jesup: presumably your linux builds were coalesced with the next push's
# [02:35] <jesup> Ah... that makes sense. And I see later builds have built and are in tests. Hadn't seen it coalesce much lately; maybe partly due to when I check in
# [02:36] <seth> bz: it's something we made up. imgLoader::LoadImage.
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# [02:36] <@bz> seth: you can totally change that
# [02:37] <@bz> seth: we've changed it in the not too distant past
# [02:37] <seth> bz: ah, good! i was afraid this might break plugins since it's not marked as noscript
# [02:37] <@bz> well
# [02:37] <@bz> it can, yes
# [02:37] <@bz> If you can change in a way that doesn't break extensions, that's preferable. ;)
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# [02:38] <@bz> seth: what do you want to change?
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# [02:39] <seth> bz: what it boils down to is, it takes an optional parameter that is an existing imgIRequest object, which LoadImage fills in instead of creating a new one if it's provided. the problem is that now we may return a different type of object than the caller probably expected here, and i don't see how i can reuse their existing object in that case
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# [02:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f75007880173 - Eric Faust - Check to make sure compilations haven't been invalidated (bug 799803, r=pierron).
# [02:39] <seth> bz: i just want to get rid of that argument so that things work smoothly and it's impossible to misuse the API
# [02:40] <@bz> seth: ah
# [02:40] <@bz> seth: so another option is to have it throw if non-null is passed
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# [02:40] <@bz> seth: which has the same exact effect for the cases that pass non-null
# [02:40] <@bz> seth: but won't break any of the sane consumers who pass null
# [02:41] <@bz> seth: I agree it's a tad ugly.
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# [02:41] <@bz> seth: Let me check something
# [02:42] <seth> bz: heh, seems like a reasonable compromise (though ideally eventually one could get rid of it…)
# [02:43] <@bz> seth: So at first skim, addons MXR shows no hits for this method
# [02:43] <@bz> seth: or rather none of the 200-some matches on loadImage seem relevant
# [02:43] <@bz> seth: you could check with Jorge whether that's right....
# [02:43] <@bz> seth: and if so, just nuke the arg.
# [02:44] <seth> bz: yeah, that sounds like a good option
# [02:44] <seth> bz: i might pull this into a separate bug to make this easier to handle
# [02:44] <@bz> seth: Really wish this stuff were webidl... ;)
# [02:45] <@bz> seth: because in WebIDL we could have the best of both worlds. ;)
# [02:45] <seth> bz: hmm, how so?
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# [02:46] <@bz> seth: WebIDL lets you define overloads
# [02:46] <@bz> seth: so we'd just define an overload without the arg for consumers who want to call it
# [02:46] <seth> bz: oh, you can't have overloads in XPCOM?
# [02:46] <@bz> seth: and then make the overload with the arg throw if the arg is non-null
# [02:46] <@bz> seth: no
# [02:47] <@bz> seth: not without random crap like arguments declared as optional nsIVariant or whatnot.
# [02:47] <@bz> seth: which are more pain than is worth here
# [02:47] <seth> bz: heh, yeah, doesn't sound worthwhile
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# [02:50] <jcranmer> bz: assuming sane class hierarchies, I believe so
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# [02:52] <@bz> jcranmer: good
# [02:52] <@bz> jcranmer: the class hierarchies here should be very sane
# [02:54] <jcranmer> bz: one sec, checking clang's impl
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# [02:56] <@bz> jcranmer: I have clang
# [02:57] <@bz> jcranmer: it does what I want
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# [02:57] <jcranmer> no, I'm checking clang's impl of msvc abi
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# [02:58] <@bz> jcranmer: ah, heh
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# [03:03] <nrc> bz: question about pseudo elements for the OMTA thing
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# [03:04] <nrc> bz: I'm currently finding all descendents of an element by GetFirstChild; GetNextSibling , do I have to do more to get the before and after pseudo elements?
# [03:04] <nrc> bz: and do they need to be treated differently in terms of the style update stuff?
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# [03:09] <@bz> nrc: so..
# [03:09] <@bz> nrc: That won't find ::before and ::after
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# [03:09] <@bz> nrc: you can find those using nsLayoutUtils::GetBeforeFrame and nsLayoutUtils::GetAfterFrame
# [03:10] <@bz> nrc: and in terms of style update, just reparenting those should be fine
# [03:10] <@bz> nrc: since we don't do off-main-thread stuff on those, right?
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# [03:12] <nrc> bz: I'm not sure, but I don't think so, I'll check
# [03:12] <nrc> thanks!
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# [03:12] <jcranmer> bz: assuming no virtual base classes, msvcabi appears to guarantee that the vptr is at offset 0
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# [03:12] <@bz> nrc: Pretty sure we don't
# [03:13] <@bz> jcranmer: lovely
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# [03:13] <@bz> jcranmer: I believe virtual base clases are Not Allowed in our code. ;)
# [03:13] <jcranmer> when you have virtual base classes, the vbptr offset goes to hell
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# [03:13] <@bz> yes
# [03:14] <@bz> if someone uses virtual base classes on anything involving isupports...
# [03:14] <@bz> they deserve what they get
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# [03:14] <jcranmer> in itanium, it looks like it's still guaranteed to be at offset 0
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# [03:14] <@bz> I wonder if I can somehow tell at runtime
# [03:14] <jcranmer> in msvc, it gets thrown through the ringer
# [03:15] <@bz> whether it is
# [03:15] <@bz> and assert
# [03:15] <@bz> wringer.
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# [03:15] <jcranmer> ringers might be more painful, with the high-pitched noises they geneate
# [03:15] <jcranmer> generate
# [03:16] <@bz> I thought ringers were the people who won the game for you? ;)
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# [03:16] <@bz> So I suppose you were saying that the ringer chews up the vtbl and then swallows it, etc
# [03:16] <@bz> and what comes out on the other end is what ends up in the compiled code
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# [03:16] <jcranmer> virtual inheritance needs to die
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# [03:21] <jcranmer> bz: why do you need the vtable pointer to be the first word?
# [03:24] <@bz> jcranmer: because I want to assert that the vtable entries are what I expect
# [03:24] <@bz> jcranmer: which means I need to be able to get at the vtable entries. ;)
# [03:24] <@bz> "expect" == "match the vtable entries of this other object"
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# [03:24] <@bz> More precisely, I want to assert, given an object of type T
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# [03:24] <@bz> That if I reinterpret_cast it to nsISupports
# [03:24] <@bz> and do_QueryObject it to nsISupports
# [03:25] <@bz> the resulting two nsISupports objects have the same addref/release/qi methods
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# [03:25] <jcranmer> then you also need to know that the vtable layout is as you expect it
# [03:25] <romaxa> mjrosenb: ping
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# [03:25] <@bz> jcranmer: well, if I can find the vtable pointer, I can just do a memcmp on the first three words it points to
# [03:26] <@bz> jcranmer: if I carefully assume that vtable entries are one word. ;)
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# [03:28] <jcranmer> bz: uh, in standard g++/clang++ ABI, the vtable pointers start on entry 3
# [03:28] <jcranmer> er, the third entry
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# [03:28] <@bz> jcranmer: really?
# [03:29] <@bz> jcranmer: hmm
# [03:29] <jcranmer> entry 0 == offset-to-top, entry 1 == RTTI pointer
# [03:29] <@bz> jcranmer: I was getting a mismatch on the very first entry
# [03:29] <jcranmer> yep
# [03:29] <@bz> jcranmer: so we disable RTTI
# [03:29] <@bz> jcranmer: does that matter?
# [03:29] <jcranmer> entry 1 will be 0 then
# [03:30] <@bz> jcranmer: And what's offset-to-top? ;)
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# [03:30] <jcranmer> well, I'm going on a limb here
# [03:30] <jcranmer> the case where you were getting the mismatch
# [03:30] <@bz> I can describe what I _really_ want if that matters. ;)
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# [03:31] <@bz> I want people to have nsISupports be their first parent class
# [03:31] <jcranmer> turns out to be that the nsISupports* returned by do_QueryInterface isn't the first nsISupports in the object layout
# [03:31] <@bz> Or the first parent of their parent, etc
# [03:31] <jcranmer> e.g., class Foo : public nsIFoo, public nsIBar
# [03:31] <@bz> I had "class Foo: public xyz, public W"
# [03:31] <mjrosenb> romaxa: pong
# [03:31] <jcranmer> and the ambiguous base chosen for nsISupports is nsIBar
# [03:31] <@bz> where xyz does not inherit from nsISupports, but has one virtual function
# [03:32] <@bz> and W inherits from nsISupports, an is the nsISupports returned from do_QI
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# [03:32] <@bz> I start off with a Foo*
# [03:32] <@bz> I take the first word
# [03:33] <@bz> then I do_QI to nsISupports and take the first word of that
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# [03:33] <jcranmer> NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS2(Foo, nsIBar, nsIFoo) could cause this in my example, IIRC
# [03:33] <@bz> sure
# [03:33] <@bz> I understand your example
# [03:33] <romaxa> mjrosenb: I see this on attempt to build gecko with clang on ios6.0 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896097
# [03:33] <@bz> and actually, in your example I don't care whether I get the nsISupports for nsIBar or nsIFoo
# [03:33] <@bz> since they both do the right thing for me
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# [03:34] <romaxa> mjrosenb: it seems we specifically requesting lgcc specific symbol isn't it?
# [03:34] <@bz> And in fact, I will have some cases where I will sometimes get one and sometimes the other
# [03:34] <@bz> and I want to allow both
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# [03:34] <romaxa> mjrosenb: and gcc is not available on ios6.0
# [03:35] <njn> roc: is harfbuzz linux-only?
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# [03:35] <romaxa> mjrosenb: only clang which kinda works and llvm which does not work
# [03:35] <@roc> njn: no, we use it on all platforms
# [03:35] <njn> roc: thx
# [03:36] <@bz> jcranmer: So what you're saying is that the first word will not actually be a function pointer, is the point?
# [03:36] <njn> roc: what about cairo?
# [03:36] <@roc> ditto
# [03:36] <@roc> although on some platforms we use cairo very little
# [03:36] <romaxa> mjrosenb: any ideas what could be done?
# [03:36] <njn> roc: a decent amount of heap-unclassified is cairo, these days
# [03:37] <njn> roc: at least, on Linux64 where I'm measuring
# [03:37] * @bz does some experiments
# [03:38] <@bz> jcranmer: any idea what the MSVC vtable layout is?
# [03:38] <jcranmer> bz: no
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# [03:39] <romaxa> mjrosenb: here is there question similar to mine http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8064464/abi-reference-ends-to-link-error-undefined-symbol-with-clang-but-gcc-can-lin
# [03:40] <@roc> njn: right, Linux uses cairo a lot still, and that'll continue for a while
# [03:40] <@roc> we can patch some memory reporters into cairo, since we generally build with our own cairo
# [03:41] <njn> roc: I see various bits of gtk stuff too
# [03:41] <@roc> ok
# [03:41] <njn> roc: really, XBL is probably the best thing to try to measure, on desktop at least
# [03:41] <@roc> we can't patch that
# [03:41] <njn> yeah
# [03:41] <njn> roc: we have ~600KiB under gtk_icon_theme_get_icon_sizes() at startup
# [03:42] <@roc> hilarious
# [03:42] <mjrosenb> romaxa: fun...
# [03:42] <mjrosenb> romaxa: we can probably conditionally use a different function.
# [03:43] <mjrosenb> romaxa: you shuold file a bug against me.
# [03:43] <mjrosenb> romaxa: also iirc, the n9 build platform uses hardfp
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# [03:43] <mjrosenb> romaxa: so ionmonkey won't work too well.
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# [03:49] <romaxa> mjrosenb: this is not about n9, this is IOS
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# [03:49] <romaxa> mjrosenb: n9 is different case and I'vent tried to build latest trunk for n9 yet
# [03:50] <@bz> Oh, crap
# [03:50] <@bz> jcranmer: this is not going to work. :(
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# [03:50] <jcranmer> bz: what's the issue for you now?
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# [03:50] <@bz> jcranmer: because the vtable entries are in fact different
# [03:50] <@bz> though they do seem to start at 0
# [03:50] <@bz> here
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# [03:50] <@bz> let me just paste some stuff
# [03:50] <romaxa> mjrosenb: basically js was compilable on iOS sdk 4.x.... which had gcc 4.2... but ios6.0 sdk does not have gcc anymore, so clang is only option for now
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# [03:51] <jcranmer> bz: hmm, actually, it's more fun
# [03:51] <jcranmer> the vtable ptr actually points to element 2 instead of 0
# [03:51] <@bz> (gdb) p req.mRawPtr
# [03:51] <@bz> $11 = (nsXMLHttpRequest *) 0x11206f800
# [03:51] <@bz> (gdb) p (nsIXMLHttpRequest*)$11
# [03:51] <@bz> $12 = (nsIXMLHttpRequest *) 0x11206f848
# [03:51] <@bz> (gdb) x/2ga *(void**)$11
# [03:51] <@bz> 0x106a0c6c0 <_ZTV16nsXMLHttpRequest+16>: 0x10305c180 <_ZN16nsXMLHttpRequest14QueryInterfaceERK4nsIDPPv> 0x10305c820 <_ZN16nsXMLHttpRequest6AddRefEv>
# [03:51] <@bz> (gdb) x/2ga *(void**)$12
# [03:51] <@bz> 0x106a0ca48 <_ZTV16nsXMLHttpRequest+920>: 0x10305c550 <_ZThn72_N16nsXMLHttpRequest14QueryInterfaceERK4nsIDPPv> 0x10305c8a0 <_ZThn72_N16nsXMLHttpRequest6AddRefEv>
# [03:52] <@bz> Observe that the addresses there are different.
# [03:52] <@bz> as are the mangled names
# [03:52] <@bz> and here's what the demangled names are:
# [03:52] <@bz> mozilla% gc++filt _ZN16nsXMLHttpRequest14QueryInterfaceERK4nsIDPPv
# [03:52] <@bz> nsXMLHttpRequest::QueryInterface(nsID const&, void**)
# [03:52] <@bz> mozilla% gc++filt _ZThn72_N16nsXMLHttpRequest14QueryInterfaceERK4nsIDPPv
# [03:52] <@bz> non-virtual thunk to nsXMLHttpRequest::QueryInterface(nsID const&, void**)
# [03:52] <jcranmer> bz: that's because the
# [03:52] <@bz> Which is total suck.
# [03:52] <jcranmer> |this| pointer needs to be thunked back to where the class expects it to be
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# [03:53] <@bz> Callek: I considered it, then decided to abuse my position in this channel. ;)
# [03:53] <@bz> jcranmer: yeah
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# [03:53] <jcranmer> multiple base classes make layout fun
# [03:53] <Callek> bz: power corrupts! :-P
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# [03:54] <@bz> jcranmer: But that means I don't have a way to assert what I want to assert.
# [03:54] <@bz> Callek: sure does.
# [03:55] <@bz> jcranmer: basically, what I have now is equivalent to asserting pointer-identity to the canonical isupports
# [03:57] <jcranmer> sure it does, if you want to get technical
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# [03:57] <jcranmer> if you want reinterpret_cast<nsISupports*>(foo) === do_QueryInterface<nsISupports>(foo)
# [03:58] <@bz> jcranmer: no
# [03:58] <@bz> jcranmer: I want "reinterpret_cast<nsISupport*>(foo) gives me something which will do the right thing when you QI/Addref/Release on it"
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# [03:59] <@bz> jcranmer: Or more formally...
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# [04:00] <@bz> jcranmer: define a class as "Bad" if it has no parent class and is not nsISupports
# [04:00] <@bz> jcranmer: define nsISupports to be "Good"
# [04:00] <@bz> jcranmer: define a class as "Good" if its first parent class is "Good"
# [04:00] <@bz> jcranmer: then I want to assert that my class is "Good"
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# [04:03] <jcranmer> what you really want to asser is that nsISupports is the primary base class of Foo
# [04:03] <decoder> espindola: see pm =)
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# [04:04] <decoder> gnite
# [04:04] <@bz> jcranmer: yes
# [04:04] <jcranmer> (well, technically that's not right, but you want the transitive expansion of that)
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# [04:04] <espindola> decoder, pm?
# [04:04] <@bz> jcranmer: really really ideally I want to assert this at compile time. ;)
# [04:04] <decoder> espindola: private message :)
# [04:04] <decoder> sent you a bug report
# [04:05] <espindola> ah, good night
# [04:05] <@bz> jcranmer: but I would totally settle for asserting at runtime
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# [04:06] <@bz> jcranmer: If I always singly-inherited from nsISupports, this is easy
# [04:07] <@bz> jcranmer: just compare the results of static_cast and reinterpret_cast
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# [04:07] <@bz> jcranmer: but if I multiply-inherit from it, the static cast will fail to compile, of course
# [04:09] <jcranmer> sorry, I'm trying to confirm something here
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# [04:12] <jcranmer> hmm
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# [04:16] <@bz> And yes, reinterpret_cast is evil
# [04:16] <@bz> there are good reasons for using it here. ;)
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# [04:17] <njn> bz: can you look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org//show_bug.cgi?id=798484#c38 ?
# [04:18] <njn> bz: looks like we're not measuring a good amount of memory allocated under mFrameConstructor->ConstructRootFrame()
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# [04:20] <Callek> I use reinterpret_cast to cast an array of ints to an array of int64's, in order to obfuscate the actual values :-P
# [04:20] <@bz> njn: looking
# [04:20] <@bz> njn: er...
# [04:20] <jcranmer> bz: I think I found a bug in the spec
# [04:20] <@bz> njn: we have a memory reporter for that!
# [04:20] <@bz> njn: what the hell?
# [04:21] <@bz> jcranmer: the C++ spec?
# [04:21] <@bz> jcranmer: and does the bug help or hinder me? ;)
# [04:21] <njn> bz: some of it's reported, but some isn't
# [04:21] <@bz> njn: the exact stack you posted there is not reported, right?
# [04:21] <njn> bz: that one is unreported, correct
# [04:21] <jcranmer> bz: there's an example which, if correct, would suggest a way to solve the problem, but the example appears to be erroneous
# [04:21] <njn> bz: I can give you a reported one if you want
# [04:22] <@bz> njn: pastebin, please?
# [04:22] * @bz is digging
# [04:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca860283a841 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 802428: Support varying adapter properties based on android version; r=ggrisco r=echou
# [04:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea58b88da892 - Kyle Machulis - Backed out changeset f57c433cb7bc: Wrong patch version r=echou r=qdot
# [04:22] <@bz> oh, hmm
# [04:22] <@bz> anon box
# [04:22] <njn> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896467 -- that's *reported*
# [04:22] <@bz> That's also anon box
# [04:22] <@bz> wtf?
# [04:23] <@bz> And the line numbers are the same
# [04:23] <@bz> so it's the same object
# [04:24] <njn> bz: the stacks differ near the bottom
# [04:24] <@bz> Sure
# [04:24] <@bz> o
# [04:24] <@bz> er, ok
# [04:24] <@bz> so
# [04:25] <@bz> nsCSSRuleProcessor::SizeOfExcludingThis
# [04:25] <@bz> This goes through all the rule cascades
# [04:25] <@bz> and reports them
# [04:25] <@bz> yes?
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# [04:25] <njn> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896479 shows how they diverge near the bottom of the stacks
# [04:26] <@bz> Yes.
# [04:26] <@bz> there are lots of ways we can get into this code
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# [04:26] <@bz> But ok
# [04:26] <@bz> nsCSSRuleProcessor::SizeOfExcludingThis should be reporting all this stuff
# [04:26] <njn> bz: nsCSSRuleProcessor::SizeOfExcludingThis does go through the rule cascades
# [04:27] <njn> bz: presumably we're missing some roots, IYSWIM
# [04:27] <njn> same story like we had with the loader
# [04:27] <njn> in bug 799796
# [04:27] <@bz> right
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# [04:28] <@bz> so hold on
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# [04:29] <njn> bz: lots of this is coming via nsXMLContentSink::HandleStartElement()
# [04:29] <@bz> yes
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# [04:29] <@bz> So just to check
# [04:29] <@bz> they're both going through line 778 in nsStyleSet::FileRules ?
# [04:29] <@bz> What does your line 778 look like there?
# [04:30] <njn> bz: (*aCollectorFunc)(mRuleProcessors[eAgentSheet], aData);
# [04:30] <@bz> hmm
# [04:30] <@bz> this is the same thing we were hitting before....
# [04:30] <@bz> where I couldn't make sense of it
# [04:30] <@bz> because nsStyleSet::SizeOfIncludingThis
# [04:30] <@bz> calls SizeOfIncludingThis on every rule processor
# [04:31] <@bz> including mRuleProcessors[eAgentSheet]
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# [04:31] <@bz> And PresShell::SizeOfIncludingThis calls StyleSet()->SizeOfIncludingThis(aMallocSizeOf)
# [04:32] <@bz> So if we're missing a root, then we're not reporting the whole presshell
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# [04:33] <mjrosenb> romaxa: yes, I realize this, I was merely warning you for when you go to make another ionmonkey build.
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# [04:33] <@bz> nsWindowMemoryReporter.cpp
# [04:34] <@bz> Hrm
# [04:34] <@bz> Is this all post-facto?
# [04:34] <njn> bz: post-facto?
# [04:34] <@bz> Or can you drop into gdb on one of those stacks?
# [04:34] <romaxa> mjrosenb: ok, I see that extern was introduced almost year ago... so before we had implementation without that direct call
# [04:34] <njn> bz: nope, sorry
# [04:34] <@bz> ok
# [04:35] * @bz would dearly love a document URI. ;)
# [04:35] <mjrosenb> we have an implementation without a direct call?
# [04:35] <@bz> I'd settle for a reproducible testcase of some sort.
# [04:35] <@bz> Something weird is going on here.
# [04:35] <njn> bz: start up B2G :)
# [04:36] <njn> bz: b2g-desktop, actually
# [04:36] <@bz> heh
# [04:36] * @bz would love a somewhat smaller testcase!
# [04:36] <njn> bz: but that's not much of a testcase, per se
# [04:36] <@bz> I assume this is not reproducible in desktop?
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# [04:36] <@bz> (the problem with b2g is that iirc it creates tons of documents/windows/presshells)
# [04:36] <@bz> If I had something that created like 2 and failed to report one of them...
# [04:37] <njn> bz: it happens in desktop too
# [04:37] <@bz> I could try to look into how that happened
# [04:37] <@bz> ah
# [04:37] <njn> bz: the numbers look a little smaller on desktop, though it's hard to tell
# [04:37] <@bz> str is to start desktop?
# [04:37] <@bz> or something more complicated
# [04:37] <@bz> ?
# [04:37] <njn> bz: just start up, measure, quit
# [04:37] <njn> bz: I see about 300 KiB of these on desktop, as opposed to 900 KiB on b2g-desktop
# [04:38] <@bz> ok
# [04:38] <@bz> That might be due to differences in the stylesheets.
# [04:38] <@bz> ok
# [04:38] <@bz> so if you take a desktop build
# [04:38] <njn> bz: I haven't noticed this before because I just modified DMD to make it easier to spot when we have lots of slightly different stacks
# [04:38] <@bz> start it on about:blank
# [04:38] <@bz> and quit
# [04:38] <@bz> you get this?
# [04:38] <njn> bz: I've been doing about:home
# [04:38] <njn> and then quit
# [04:38] <@bz> ok
# [04:38] * @bz tries that
# [04:39] <@bz> Can I trigger a report in gdb?
# [04:39] <njn> bz: at what level do you want to trigger it?
# [04:39] <@bz> Enough that I land in nsWindowMemoryReporter::CollectReports
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# [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/993c5b5a44ca - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_14b3_RELEASE for changeset FIREFOX_17_0b4_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [04:40] <njn> bz: DMDVCheckAndDump() more or less does that, but it requires a --enable-dmdv build
# [04:40] <njn> bz: it triggers all the memory reporters
# [04:41] * @bz can --enable-dmdv
# [04:41] <njn> bz: this is in xpcom/base/nsMemoryReporterManager.cpp
# [04:41] <njn> bz: you can trigger it with a javascript:DMDV() call
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# [04:42] <@bz> building
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# [04:42] <@bz> so basic possible hypotheses:
# [04:42] <@bz> 1) We have a Window we don't report
# [04:43] <@bz> 2) There is some way in which we can report all Windows but not all presshells
# [04:43] <@bz> oh, hm
# [04:43] <@bz> hmmmmm
# [04:43] <njn> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
# [04:43] * @bz does know of a case where we have presshells without a window
# [04:43] <@bz> ho-hum
# [04:43] <@bz> lemme check if we hit that code. ;)
# [04:44] <@bz> no, we do not
# [04:44] <@bz> in desktop, with about:home
# [04:45] <tbsaunde> bz: oh, what is that case?
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# [04:46] <@bz> tbsaunde: SVG external resources
# [04:46] <@bz> hrm
# [04:46] <@bz> I don't seem to haev a DMDVCheckAndDump
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# [04:46] <@bz> oh, mozilla::
# [04:46] <njn> Oh, Mozilla!
# [04:46] <njn> :)
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# [04:48] <philor> whose nick should I put at the start of a line which asks about running ocsp during tests?
# [04:48] <@bz> hrm
# [04:48] <@bz> still no luck
# [04:49] <philor> hmm, also, http://evsecure-crl.verisign.com/pca3-g5.crl? http:?
# [04:49] <@bz> Hrm
# [04:49] <philor> also, frickin hair trigger, follow that link and you'll import that revocation list
# [04:49] <@bz> MOZ_DMDV is not defined?
# [04:50] <@bz> ah
# [04:50] <@bz> here we go
# [04:51] * @bz had to clobber
# [04:52] <@bz> lemme see now
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# [04:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/668d22da982b - Felipe Gomes - Bug 807532. Clear the previous profile when Social is toggled off. r=markh,gavin
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# [05:01] <@bz> njn: sorry for lag; working on getting a dmdv build without installing valgrind. ;)
# [05:01] <njn> bz: np
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# [05:01] * @bz should have that soon
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# [05:01] <@bz> then we'll see whether it tells me anything
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# [05:14] <@bz> njn: we sure seem to memory-report all windows...
# [05:14] <njn> bz: yep
# [05:14] <@bz> njn: in the sense that I see:
# [05:14] <@bz> (gdb) p windows.Length()
# [05:14] <@bz> $3 = 12
# [05:14] <@bz> In nsWindowMemoryReporter::CollectReports
# [05:15] <@bz> and the printfs in ctor and dtor for windows agree there are 12 of them
# [05:15] <njn> ok
# [05:16] <njn> bz: you talked before about presshells not owned by windows
# [05:16] <njn> bz: but you think you accounted for all of them?
# [05:16] <@bz> yes
# [05:16] <@bz> That code is not hit here
# [05:16] <@bz> The code that would create them
# [05:16] * njn has no idea
# [05:17] <@bz> Perhaps I should add some logging for presshells and see whether we really report them all
# [05:17] <@bz> just to be safe
# [05:17] <njn> sounds good!
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# [05:17] * njn just writes the tools, he can't interpret its output
# [05:19] <@bz> heh
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# [05:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7946c073343 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 804073 - B2G RIL: use system message to notify telephony new calls. r=philikon
# [05:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1a3be8ed9cd - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 806785 - B2G RIL: _enumerationTelephonyCallbacks undefined. r=allstars.chh
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# [05:22] <philor> also a fun question: suppose verisign does have an ocsp response for us to something hit in a test - do we actually want to get it?
# [05:23] <Callek> ummm what kind of test would be hitting a verisign ocsp server?
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# [05:23] <philor> crashtest, reftest, so far that I know of
# [05:23] <@bz> ok
# [05:23] <@bz> every presshell is hit
# [05:23] <Callek> [note of course, that we do plan on locking down our entire build network in the near future]
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# [05:24] <@bz> njn: So...
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# [05:24] <@bz> njn: I wonder
# [05:24] <@bz> njn: on your setup where you can reproduce this
# [05:24] <Callek> philor: what in those tests contacts a verisign ocsp server, and/or is it causing orange and/or do we have bug[s] on it?
# [05:24] <philor> Callek: typo, s/near/unimaginable far distant/
# [05:24] <@bz> njn: would you mind adding some printfs?
# [05:24] <@bz> njn: I can throw you a patch if you want
# [05:24] <Callek> philor: no, near! [e.g. Android ICS stuff in scl1 will be blocking by default]
# [05:25] <@bz> njn: and then logging the output of those printfs in a run that shows the problem
# [05:25] <Callek> and new VLANs set up will be similar
# [05:25] <philor> Callek: loading some unknown URL in a browser which has had ocsp enabled by default since version 3
# [05:25] <Callek> philor: well for our internal tests, I still don't get how a test is causing an ocsp query
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# [05:26] <Callek> since we self-sign for the tests that check https/etc.
# [05:26] <Callek> I admit internals of testing magic and expecially the ocsp magic we have is outside of my expertise, but still
# [05:26] <markh> silly question, but nsPopupBoxObject::SizeTo(int32_t aWidth, int32_t aHeight) basically just sets "width" and "height" attributes on nsIContent - (a) how does that actually cause the size to change, and (b) is there anything that would explain in some cases the size doesn't happen?
# [05:28] <njn> bz: sure
# [05:29] <njn> bz: though my setup shouldn't be any different to yours, really, for loading about:home...
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# [05:34] <@bz> njn: I'd think so too
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# [05:34] <@bz> njn: but I just want to be very sure we're seeing the DMD issue
# [05:35] <@bz> njn http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896684
# [05:35] <@bz> njn: apply that and see what gets printed?
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# [05:38] <njn> bz: so apply that to my DMD build?
# [05:38] <@bz> njn: yup
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# [05:38] <@bz> njn: just for a basic sanity check as to which level things are failing at....
# [05:38] <@bz> njn: and hence where we need to dig more
# [05:39] <njn> bz: building
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# [05:44] <njn> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896705
# [05:45] <njn> bz: note that I trigger DMD by clicking on a javascript:DMD() bookmark that I have in my bookmarks bar, just in case that's relevant
# [05:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa5a1d02268e - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 779930: RTL text handles don't flip over. [r=wesj, r=mfinkle]
# [05:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24d449c76fe6 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 779930: Reflect the images for RTL. [r=wesj, r=mfinkle]
# [05:46] <@bz> ok
# [05:47] <@bz> so looking at the part before "DMD: finished"
# [05:47] <@bz> which I assume is the relevant bit?
# [05:47] <@bz> Looks like all the three still-alive presshells are reported
# [05:47] * @bz looks at ruleprocessors
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# [05:48] <njn> bz: yeah, "DMD: finished" is where DMD finishes :)
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# [05:50] <@bz> we do have lots of unreported ruleprocessors
# [05:50] <@bz> But of course XBL is a confounding factor here....
# [05:51] <@bz> Want to try adding similar logging to nsStyleSet too, just to check?
# [05:51] <njn> sure
# [05:51] <njn> give me a patch!
# [05:51] <njn> bz: XBL does show up among the unreported stuff, too
# [05:52] <@bz> hmm
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# [05:58] <@bz> njn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896738
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# [05:58] <njn> bz: apply on top of the previous patch?
# [05:59] <njn> seemingly not
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# [06:00] <@bz> njn: no, instead of
# [06:00] <njn> bz: building, again
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# [06:06] <njn> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1896791
# [06:07] <@bz> OK
# [06:07] <@bz> that shows all stylesets are reported
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# [06:13] <@bz> njn: so...
# [06:13] <njn> clear as mud?
# [06:13] <@bz> njn: every single ruleprocessor that's alive when DMD starts running is either an XBL rule processor or gets reported
# [06:13] <@bz> njn: according to that log
# [06:14] <njn> ok
# [06:14] <@bz> njn: but our stacks claim that this is definitely a UA ruleprocessor...
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# [06:14] <@bz> njn: so now I'm confused.
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# [06:14] <njn> bz: I got nothin' :/
# [06:15] <@bz> So maybe a first step is to add memory reporters for the XBL ruleprocessors
# [06:15] <@bz> and see where that gets us
# [06:15] <njn> bz: maybe we're missing something with ruleprocessors?
# [06:15] <njn> *within
# [06:15] <@bz> Checking that right now
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# [06:16] <njn> bz: failing that, I agree doing XBL is a good next step
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# [06:16] <@bz> so
# [06:16] <@bz> just to double-check some stuff
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# [06:16] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org//show_bug.cgi?id=798484#c38
# [06:17] <@bz> in the source tree that stack came from
# [06:17] <@bz> What's line 652?
# [06:17] <@bz> Presumably this:
# [06:17] <@bz> AppendRuleToTagTable(&mTagTable, selector->mLowercaseTag, ruleValue);
# [06:17] <@bz> right?
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# [06:18] * @bz steps through in order
# [06:19] <@bz> nsCSSRuleProcessor::SizeOfExcludingThis
# [06:19] <@bz> Walks all the rule cascades
# [06:19] <@bz> RuleCascadeData::SizeOfIncludingThis
# [06:19] <@bz> Walks mRuleHash and all the entries of mPseudoElementRuleHashes
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# [06:20] <@bz> RuleHash::SizeOfExcludingThis
# [06:20] <@bz> Does:
# [06:20] <@bz> if (mTagTable.ops) {
# [06:20] <@bz> n += PL_DHashTableSizeOfExcludingThis(&mTagTable,
# [06:20] <@bz> SizeOfRuleHashTableEntry,
# [06:20] <@bz> aMallocSizeOf);
# [06:20] <@bz> }
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# [06:21] <njn> bz: that AppendRuleToTagTable call is on line 651, but maybe the stack is wrong
# [06:21] <@bz> ok
# [06:21] <@bz> so I guess we should do the xbl thing
# [06:21] <@bz> and then see
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# [06:24] <njn> bz: you already told me:
# [06:24] <njn> "XBL style sheets hang off nsBindingManagers, which each document has one of.
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# [06:24] <njn> There are also XBL style sheets shared across documents, which are in
# [06:24] <njn> nsXULPrototypeCache::mStyleSheetTable. So, should count the ones in the
# [06:24] <njn> nsXULPrototypeCache first, then count the ones hanging off the
# [06:24] <njn> bindingmanagers that aren't in the nsXULPrototypeCache."
# [06:24] <njn> :)
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# [06:25] <@bz> yeah
# [06:25] <@bz> I guess that would work
# [06:26] <@bz> Is there already a bug?
# [06:26] * @bz can try to do that, but not tonight....
# [06:26] <njn> bz: I don't think so
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# [06:26] <@bz> Would you mind filing one and pasting that in and ccing me?
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# [06:27] <njn> bz: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=681199 the same or different?
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# [06:30] <@bz> njn: different
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# [06:30] <njn> bz: ok, I'll file
# [06:30] <njn> bz: what component?
# [06:30] <@bz> njn: XBL
# [06:31] <njn> core::XBL
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# [06:33] <njn> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=807567
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# [06:34] <njn> bz: thanks for all the help
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# [06:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c27f644b081 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: LightweightTheme support in browser.js for Fennec. [r=mfinkle]
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5786cc98c4d5 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: LightweightTheme for BrowserApp. [r=mfinkle]
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bde6434a39a - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: Lightweight theme for awesomebar. [r=mfinkle]
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7599929c5258 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: Lightweight theme for tabs-tray. [r=mfinkle]
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f6788ae5f6d - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: Make the animation ready for Lightweight themes. [r=lucasr, f=mfinkle]
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/434fb54eccd7 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: LightweightTheme support in Fennec. [r=mfinkle]
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c322955aff7 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 783092: LightweightThemeConsumer for Fennec. [r=bmcbride, r=mfinkle]
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# [06:59] <markh> so yeah, popupbox objects don't resize if you happen to specify the same height as it already has!!
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# [07:02] <sarga> not really a bug but you know
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# [07:07] <dherman> do CrashReporter logs get stored somewhere different in Mountain Lion?
# [07:07] <dherman> this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/How_to_get_a_stacktrace_for_a_bug_report#Alternative_ways_to_get_a_stacktrace isn't turning up anything for me
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# [08:07] <SBUser1> Actually we're developing existing project,developed by other team, our project is on search bar add on using XUL, My question is "$(".highlight-border-setsee", window.content.document).length == 0" in this above line prev. team used class ".highlight-border-setsee" but i didn't found any class name with this name... so how would it work?
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# [08:55] <@smaug> hsivonen: I think there are people from Cisco @TPAC. Do you happen to know who
# [08:56] <@smaug> might be good to ask about bug 789081
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# [09:01] <hsivonen> smaug: cullen jennings is here. I guess I should locate him.
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# [09:08] <Yoric> jmaher: Still investigating. It _seems_ that the timeout takes place during cycle collection.
# [09:08] <ewong> !seen edmorley
# [09:08] <firebot> edmorley was last seen 7 hours, 46 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying 'jcranmer: I'll add a note to remind me, I don't normally watch &noignore=1' in #developers.
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# [09:12] <mounir> does that error speaks to someone? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1897227
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# [09:16] <mounir> arf
# [09:16] <mounir> bad script
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# [09:51] <Yoric> So, I have a test that seems to freeze and the latest nsIObserverService topic received is cycle-collector-begin
# [09:52] <Yoric> How can I determine whether the cycle collector has actually frozen?
# [09:52] <Yoric> And even better, how can I determine what it was collecting?
# [09:52] <Ms2ger> Ask smaug
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# [09:52] <@smaug> Yoric: freeze?
# [09:52] <@smaug> hmm
# [09:53] <@smaug> use a profiler
# [09:53] <Yoric> smaug: Well, the test timeouts during shutdown.
# [09:53] <Yoric> The timeout only occurs remotely, which doesn't really help...
# [09:53] <Yoric> Is there a way to activate the profiler programmatically?
# [09:53] <@smaug> "the" profiler?
# [09:53] <Yoric> (and to somehow recover the profile)
# [09:53] <Yoric> Ok, fair enough, "a" profile.
# [09:54] <Yoric> "a" profiler, that is
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# [10:01] <Yoric> jmaher: Is there a way to turn logging on on talos?
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# [10:03] <Yoric> jmaher: I mean NSPR_LOG_MODULES
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# [10:04] <glandium> Yoric: add a setenv in main() ?
# [10:04] <Yoric> Good idea.
# [10:05] <Yoric> glandium: Hey, aren't you supposed to be off work today for Toussaint?
# [10:05] <glandium> Yoric: aren't *you* supposed to be off? ;)
# [10:05] <Yoric> :)
# [10:05] <Ms2ger> Aren't you *all* supposed to be off? :)
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# [10:05] <Ms2ger> And you too, gcp
# [10:06] <Yoric> I will probably fall asleep sson.
# [10:06] <ewong> is this why it's so quiet here? everyone's off?
# [10:07] <glandium> ewong: everyone is either off or sleeping, i guess
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# [10:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a43543174e89 - Shian-Yow Wu - Bug 804531 - B2G 3G: When primary APN available, default route should not be set to secondary APN. r=philikon
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# [10:09] <gcp> Ms2ger: what?
# [10:09] * Yoric should be both off and sleeping.
# [10:09] <Ms2ger> Why you aren't off for Allerheiligen
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# [10:10] <gcp> cos I'm a contractor
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# [10:13] <Yoric> Because I want to land my patch and this failure has been nagging me for ~10 days.
# [10:14] <Yoric> I have difficulties sleeping enough without that pesky fail-on-talos-on-try-server-but-succeed-everywhere-else .
# [10:18] <@smaug> Allerheiligen must be pyhäinmiestenpäivä
# [10:18] <@smaug> which in Finland is moved to the next weekend
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# [10:19] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [10:19] <Ms2ger> Though I'm told it's pyhäinpäivä now
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# [10:21] <@smaug> Nov 3
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# [10:22] <@smaug> I can blame Swedes about moving it to weekend
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# [10:23] <@roc> intereseting
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# [10:24] <mounir> smaug: why are you blaming sicking? :p
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# [10:25] <@roc> I'm got something to blame Jonas for
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# [10:26] <@smaug> mounir: of course
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# [10:26] <@smaug> of course I'm blaming him
# [10:26] <@smaug> not why
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# [10:27] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
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# [10:32] <ewong> edmorley: ping
# [10:32] <edmorley> ewong: hi :-)
# [10:32] <ewong> or is it too early for that?
# [10:32] <ewong> edmorley: hi! might you have a bit of time?
# [10:33] <edmorley> ewong: sure, what can I help you with?
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# [10:34] <ewong> edmorley: I'm relooking at bug #683833 (clicking << back bug) I've forgotten a lot of stuff.. :( how do I get the list of builders?
# [10:35] <edmorley> ewong: looking
# [10:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/307d26f42527 - Gene Lian - Bug 796255 - Alarm doesn’t ring on time if the app is killed and phone is allowed to suspend (part 1). r=fabrice
# [10:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc7c21eaf399 - Gene Lian - Bug 796255 - Alarm doesn’t ring on time if the app is killed and phone is allowed to suspend (part 2). r=vivien,jlebar
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# [10:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed3bdf09ebe0 - Robert Longson - Bug 807355 - Only create marker effects if the content is markable. r=jwatt
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# [10:39] <mounir> smaug: what's the test testing interfaces available in window.
# [10:39] <mounir> (thanks to you I have to write code now! :o)
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# [10:40] <@smaug> mounir: you mean test_interfaces.html
# [10:41] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_interfaces.html?force=1
# [10:41] <@smaug> mounir: what are you adding to global scope?
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# [10:50] <edmorley> ewong: ok, I've reread the bug and some of the code, which part of the last comment did you want me to go through?
# [10:51] <edmorley> (the list of builders is already fetched on each refresh)
# [10:51] <ewong> edmorley is the list of builders in loadtracker?
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# [10:52] <edmorley> ewong: _hiddenBuilders in data.js
# [10:52] <ewong> _hiddenBuilders? oh.. it's set to null
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# [10:53] <ewong> so I get the info before it's set to null
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# [10:54] <ewong> ahh I think that jogs a bit of memory..
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# [10:54] <ewong> wicked!
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# [10:57] <edmorley> ewong: :-)
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# [11:06] <ewong> edmorley: thanks! that got me going again
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# [11:11] <tesso> Ahoy pirates!! ;)
# [11:12] <tesso> good morning to all!
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# [11:13] <Ms2ger> Arr
# [11:13] <tesso> anyone care to give me some help with building gecko to my samsung s2? got a bit problem with it, cause im using cyanogenMod 10
# [11:13] <tesso> im a android dev, looking to dev stuff for the firefoxOS
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# [11:15] <Standard8> edmorley: are we using intermittent-failure yet?
# [11:15] <edmorley> Standard8: not yet, keyword added but initial conversion script not finished
# [11:15] <Standard8> ok
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# [11:16] <edmorley> it's going to be a bit of a staggered switch unfortunately
# [11:16] <edmorley> just to keep everything working
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# [11:19] <markh1> where's philor? I'm sure xp only goes orange when he is around...
# [11:20] <Ms2ger> Asleep by now, I hope
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# [11:39] <edmorley> markh1: link?
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# [11:40] <markh1> edmorley: I've got a try job I *want* to go orange and it wont - if philor was here it would :)
# [11:40] <edmorley> ah
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# [11:50] <Unfocused> fixed an orange by adding logging? :)
# [11:51] <mounir> baku|away: ping
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# [11:55] <Ms2ger> http://i.imgur.com/y4mmH.jpg
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# [11:57] <@smaug> haha
# [11:57] <@smaug> good one
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# [11:59] <mounir> :)
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# [12:06] <Yoric> markh1: Can we switch? I have got a try job that repeatedly goes orange and it shouldn't.
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# [12:08] <Yoric> Is there an event that marks the end of cycle collection?
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# [12:31] <gaston> woooooo got a working jsshell again on ppc \o/
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# [12:42] <decoder> gaston: very nice =)
# [12:42] <decoder> does it pass the tests, or are there more problems at runtime now?
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# [12:44] <gaston> it starts, and that's a start
# [12:44] <gaston> now i'll see if ffx itself 1) builds 2) runs and eventually i'll run some tests
# [12:45] <gaston> then repeat with aurora :)
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# [12:45] <gaston> damn bug #746112 assumed that all ppcs had a 64k pagesize, while in fact it should only be ppc64 (apparently) ...
# [12:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccf9a7c99813 - Gina Yeh - Bug 806713 - Patch 1: NS_ASSERTION failure in UnixSocket.cpp when create a sco socket, r=qdot
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# [13:06] <gaston> awesome seems most regress tests even pass
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# [13:22] <edmorley> mattwoodrow|away, jwatt, gwagner: unstarred aurora failures
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# [13:32] <graememcc> edmorley: graememcc_firefox@graeme-online.co.uk
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# [13:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/482d32e2b348 - Olli Pettay - Bug 779306 - Wildcard for 'all events', nsIEventListenerService.addListenerForAllEvents(target, listener), r=jst
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# [13:44] <edmorley> graememcc: sorry added you to treestatus earlier but forgot to actually say in channel :-)
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# [13:45] <edmorley> ha
# [13:45] <edmorley> :-)
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# [13:57] <flexo_> anyone here has expercience with exposing a c++ xpcom component to javascript with nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer?
# [13:58] <Ms2ger> All I know is that I hate that code with a passion
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# [14:00] <Yoric> flexo_: I have exposed C++ code to JS through other means, if that can be useful.
# [14:00] <flexo_> yes maybe, how did you do it?
# [14:02] <Yoric> 1/ Define an interface with an [implicit_context] method (say |setup()|).
# [14:02] <Yoric> 2/ Implement the component and its method using JSAPI.
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# [14:02] <Ms2ger> I would advise against that
# [14:02] <Yoric> 3/ Instantiate the component/service from JS.
# [14:02] <Yoric> That's one way to do it, at least.
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# [14:03] <Yoric> That's pretty much how |Components| is implemented, too, iirc.
# [14:03] <flexo_> yes but can untrusted pages call the component then?
# [14:03] <Ms2ger> You really don't want to be touching JSAPI
# [14:03] <Yoric> Ah, I didn't understand that you wanted to expose this to the whole web.
# [14:04] <flexo_> yes sry, I want that every page can access it
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# [14:05] <Yoric> Ms2ger: What's the alternative? Surely not xpconnect?
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# [14:05] <Ms2ger> Definitely XPConnect
# [14:05] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/network/src/TCPSocket.js
# [14:05] <Ms2ger> Looks like that uses nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer
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# [14:11] <flexo_> thanks, I'll take a look at it
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# [14:13] <flexo_> do you know it's possible to also do this in an extension, so without changing source code?
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# [14:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1b1ca54cb42 - Josh Aas - Back out both patches for bug 647216 due to regression documented in bug 806244.
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# [14:41] <edmorley> "Bug 803688 - Re-land backed out part of bug 803688 now that we have bug 805207 fixed. This changeset reverts the partial-backout cset 5c82f5a5e90d, taking us back to the state we were in at bug 803688's initial landing, rev 592c3465a742. "
# [14:42] <edmorley> although to be fair, that's the clearest way it could have been phrased :-)
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# [14:50] <froydnj> edmorley: *blink*
# [14:51] <edmorley> aka "Bug 803688 - reland the bit we backed out whilst waiting for bug 805207 to be fixed"
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# [14:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d8717e04a99 - Brad Lassey - bug 798826 - crash in gfxFT2FontList::FindFonts @ mozilla::scache::StartupCache::WaitOnWriteThread, speculative null check r=jfkthame
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# [15:04] <edmorley> qDot: ping
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# [15:05] <edmorley> !seen smaug
# [15:05] <firebot> smaug was last seen 82 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying 'bholley: there are only two patches in the bug' in #content.
# [15:06] <hsivonen> derf: the bug for which we need a cisco contact is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789081#c34
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# [15:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5fc85295afde - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 807171 - Implement AudioParam.cancelScheduledValues; r=bzbarsky
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# [15:09] <edmorley> can someone tell me which group bug 802428 is in?
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# [15:09] <davidb> not security
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# [15:10] <edmorley> yeah sorry I should have added that it's not moco conf, s-s or any of the other more common ones
# [15:11] <evilpie> maybe telefonica?
# [15:11] <edmorley> yeah maybe, would make sense for the commit
# [15:11] * edmorley just wants to mark the bug post merge
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# [15:13] <ewong> edmorley: ping
# [15:13] <edmorley> hi
# [15:13] <ewong> edmorley: busy?
# [15:14] <edmorley> ewong: I have a moment :-)
# [15:15] <ewong> edmorley: quick question... would it be easier if I did that bug one part at a time?
# [15:15] <ewong> err by 'that bug' I mean bug #683833
# [15:16] <ewong> I thinki I have it understood up to "Make _reloadHiddenBuilders() check whether the new hidden builders list matches the old list. If not, lets call the existing _afterHiddenBuildersHaveLoaded() but with an extra bool param indicating whether the list has changed. "
# [15:16] <ewong> the next point is a little more 'convoluted' (for lack of a better word)
# [15:17] <espindola> decoder, thanks for the bug report
# [15:17] <edmorley> ewong: splitting the solution up into multiple patches, each working without the next, is recommended, yes :-)
# [15:17] <espindola> looking at it
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# [15:22] <edmorley> !seen mbest
# [15:22] <firebot> mbest was last seen 19 hours, 31 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying 'Hello all, just wanted to note that I added a new query to the Main metro wiki page. It tracks MVP nominations. Currently just using [metro-mvp?] for now until we decided to switch to
# [15:22] <firebot> something more.' in #windev.
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# [15:23] <edmorley> who is an appropriate person to request addition to partner-confidential ?
# [15:23] <ewong> edmorley: ok.. I'm gonna try this patch as part 1..
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# [15:25] <ewong> edmorley: thanks for your patience
# [15:26] <ewong> s/thanks/thank you/
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# [15:28] <edmorley> ewong|sleep: and you yours; I still haven't gotten my head around all of TBPL yet, so I've been having to read up myself in order to answer :-)
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# [15:29] <jwatt> hmm, trunk lldb actually seems to work, finally
# [15:30] <espindola> decoder, fixed
# [15:31] <espindola> decoder, 167232
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# [15:32] <jlebar> Uh, I do not know how I got through the Aurora closed-tree hook.
# [15:32] <jlebar> Oh, qfold folds commit messages too?
# [15:32] <jlebar> But hg outgoing shows only the first line of the commit message.
# [15:32] <jlebar> Oops.
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# [15:32] <jlebar> edmorley, Sorry. :(
# [15:33] <edmorley> jlebar: np
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# [15:33] <edmorley> jlebar: it's only a "people have stopped starring" closed
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# [15:34] <T3550> i want to help translating the FirefoxOS to my country's Language (Brazilian PT-BR) where can i go?
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# [15:34] <edmorley> is tbpl taking an age to load for others too?
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# [15:35] <jlebar> T3550, Try #b2g and #gaia
# [15:36] <T3550> jlebar, tkz
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# [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3846f8080698 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 807526 - Implement GainNode; r=bzbarsky
# [15:51] <Standard8> edmorley: dod you just file a bug about adding tbpl to status.mozilla.com? What about treestatus?
# [15:51] <edmorley> Standard8: filed a few https://bugzil.la/807657,807660,807658
# [15:51] <Standard8> oh heh ok
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# [15:52] <edmorley> but yeah agree :-)
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# [15:53] <edmorley> philor: [14:56:48.617] GET https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getRevisionBuilds.php?branch=mozilla-inbound&rev=a43543174e89&_=1351781808439 [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 27870ms] :-(
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# [15:55] <edmorley> can someone else try that URL and see how long it takes please
# [15:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75f27b51f66a - Axel Hecht - bug 797745, use l10n-base and relativesrcdir instead of config.mk for l10n-merge, r=ted
# [15:55] <Standard8> edmorley: 2175ms
# [15:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5950e455f4c3 - Axel Hecht - bug 797745, add support for relativesrcdir overrides, r=ted
# [15:55] <Yoric> jmaher: Is there a way to obtain the stack trace at the time of the talos timeout?
# [15:55] <Yoric> edmorley: 2718ms
# [15:56] <Standard8> edmorley: on a shift-reload
# [15:56] <edmorley> Standard8, Yoric: thank you, must be a location thing
# [15:56] <Yoric> and 2928ms on a shift-reload
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# [15:56] <Yoric> (from France)
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# [15:57] <edmorley> oh... it works fine in another browser
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# [15:58] <Yoric> I was using Aurora, btw.
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# [15:58] <edmorley> I'm using today's Nightly
# [15:58] <jmaher> Yoric: I am not sure- maybe if you run the browser in a debugger? are you talking about on tbpl?
# [16:01] <jmaher> Yoric: I am wondering why this fails on talos, but not on unittests...and it doesn't fail on all talos runs, just some of them (the same ones...so it isn't random)
# [16:01] <Yoric> jmaher: I am talking about tbpl.
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# [16:01] <Yoric> I don't know if you received my message from yesterday, btw: with the same configuration (afaict), it fails remotely and works locally.
# [16:01] <jmaher> Yoric: if there is a minidump file it will run minidump_stackwalk and output the data; not sure how to force the browser to generate a minidump stackwalk
# [16:02] <Yoric> Not sure, but we can investigate this.
# [16:02] <Yoric> How does Talos kill firefox?
# [16:02] <jmaher> Yoric: I saw that, the tools are the same, but maybe something in the environment is different
# [16:02] <Yoric> SIGKILL?
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# [16:02] <jmaher> on which os?
# [16:02] <Yoric> macos
# [16:02] <till> edmorley: in my nightly, it takes 1779ms for a normal load, and 11447ms for shift-reload. From Germany.
# [16:03] <till> OS X 10.7
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# [16:03] <jmaher> Yoric: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/tip/talos/ffprocess_mac.py#l69
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# [16:06] <Yoric> Anyone: Is there a way to force FF to create a minidump when killed with SIGTERM or SIGKILL?
# [16:06] <Yoric> (Or does it do this already?)
# [16:06] <till> edmorley: the behavior in Chrome seems to match that in Nightly. First load between 1s und 2s, force reload ~11s.
# [16:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23eb7d58bf90 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 807535 - Avoid toggling Ion write barrier too often (r=sstangl)
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# [16:07] <edmorley> till: I tested again and Chrome displays the same behaviour for me as Nightly, so not that after all; but I'm still getting times of 30-60s
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# [16:11] <till> edmorley: mmh, may be a location thing after all. I don't see why Yoric in France shouldn't have any issues and why yours are so much worse than mine. We should pretty much go through the same major IXPs, after all.
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# [16:11] <edmorley> indeed :-(
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# [16:14] <NeilAway> Yoric: iirc no, which is why crashinject, MOZ_ASSERT etc. use invalid pointer derefs, not signals
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# [16:15] <Yoric> NeilAway: Ok, thanks.
# [16:15] <Yoric> My problem is that I need to remote debug code that timeouts (freezes?) only on tbpl.
# [16:15] <jlebar> Has anyone else noticed a huge CPU scheduler regression after updating to Ubuntu 12.10? After the update, linking libxul with gold completely freezes my machine, even if I nice the build.
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# [16:16] <Yoric> I guess I could request access to the server, wait until the timeout and attach a gdb.
# [16:16] <Yoric> This would be a new experience for me, but this should be possible.
# [16:17] <Yoric> NeilAway: jmaher: espindola: What do you think of the above idea? (credit due to espindola, btw)
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# [16:20] <espindola> Yoric, it is probably the easiest
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# [16:20] <espindola> another option is to try to copy the reference setup (10.2, xcode 4.1)
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# [16:20] <espindola> and see if you can reproduce it locally
# [16:20] <espindola> Yoric, btw, have you tried reproducing it locally with the binaries produced by the try server?
# [16:21] <Yoric> Yes, locally, it works smoothly.
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# [16:21] <espindola> ah, I thought the locally built binaries were the ones you were testing
# [16:21] <Yoric> I tried both.
# [16:21] <Yoric> On my machine, everything works.
# [16:21] <espindola> so yes, I think getting ssh access is the best
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# [16:23] <Yoric> espindola: so, you mentioned this is a netops bug?
# [16:24] <Yoric> I mean, I should open a netops bug to get ssh access?
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# [16:25] <jmaher> Yoric: that usually works, I would give that a try, you just need to request build vpn access and a slave
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# [16:25] <Yoric> I will do that.
# [16:25] <Yoric> I will need some guidance to use this access, though.
# [16:25] <Yoric> Treading unfamiliar ground.
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# [16:28] <jmaher> Yoric: yeah, I can help out as needed; it really ends up being a vnc session and you can test away :)
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# [16:34] <@ehsan> bz: ping
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# [16:34] <@bz> ehsan: ack
# [16:34] <@ehsan> bz: quick question, is this invalid web idl: createDelay(optional float foo = 1.0); ?
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# [16:35] <@bz> ehsan: Looks valid to me...
# [16:35] <@bz> ehsan: does it not parse?
# [16:35] <@ehsan> bz: it doesn't!
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# [16:35] * @bz looks
# [16:35] <@ehsan> well, the parser throws
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# [16:36] <@bz> What if you just do "1" for now?
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# [16:36] <@bz> not 1.0?
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# [16:36] <@ehsan> bz: hmm, that works...
# [16:36] <@ehsan> nope
# [16:36] <@ehsan> it doesn't
# [16:37] <@bz> What fails?
# [16:37] <@ehsan> WebIDL.WebIDLError: error: Cannot coerce type Byte to type Float., AudioContext.webidl line 31:41
# [16:37] <@ehsan> WebIDL.WebIDLError: error: Cannot coerce type Byte to type Float., AudioContext.webidl line 31:41
# [16:37] <@bz> mmm
# [16:37] <@bz> one sec
# [16:37] <mayhemer> hi, how can I log to Web Console from a native code?
# [16:37] <@bz> But I think this is just a bug or two in our parser
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# [16:38] <@bz> Spec says
# [16:38] <@ehsan> bz: well the reason that I'm asking is that I fixed the spec
# [16:38] <@ehsan> the web audio spec
# [16:38] <@bz> right
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# [16:38] <@bz> and now you're trying to implement it
# [16:38] <@ehsan> and I wanna make sure I didn't screw that up :)
# [16:38] <@ehsan> right
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# [16:39] <@ehsan> I get an assert False in t_FLOATLITERAL
# [16:39] <@bz> [16] DefaultValue b ConstValue | string
# [16:39] <@bz> [27] ConstValue b BooleanLiteral
# [16:39] <@bz> | FloatLiteral
# [16:39] <@bz> | integer
# [16:39] <@bz> | "null"
# [16:39] <@ehsan> in WebIDL.py
# [16:39] <@bz> is the spec
# [16:39] <@bz> def t_FLOATLITERAL(self, t):
# [16:39] <@bz> r'-?(([0-9]+\.[0-9]*|[0-9]*\.[0-9]+)([Ee][+-]?[0-9]+)?|[0-9]+[Ee][+-]?[0-9]+)'
# [16:39] <@bz> assert False
# [16:39] <@bz> We don't do float literals yet
# [16:39] <@ehsan> oh
# [16:39] * @bz can't recall why
# [16:39] <@ehsan> bz: let me see if I can fix it!
# [16:39] <@ehsan> bz: what does r'...' mean in python?
# [16:39] <@bz> khuey had some sort of reason for it....
# [16:39] <@bz> ehsan: regexp, I assume
# [16:40] * @ehsan googles
# [16:40] <@bz> ehsan: but using 1 should work too, I think
# [16:40] <froydnj> ehsan: "raw" string, no backslashes required
# [16:40] <@ehsan> froydnj: well, can you read this code? :) http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/parser/WebIDL.py#2682
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# [16:41] <froydnj> ehsan: it could be better, but yes
# [16:41] <@ehsan> ok, what does it do?
# [16:41] <@ehsan> bz: according to the spec?
# [16:41] <@bz> ehsan: checking
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# [16:42] <@bz> Ah
# [16:42] <@bz> sorry, gimme a sec
# [16:42] * @bz reads spec
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# [16:42] <froydnj> ehsan: so this bit: ([0-9]+\.[0-9]*|[0-9]*\.[0-9]+)
# [16:43] <@bz>
# [16:43] <@bz> The type of an integer token is the same as the type of the constant, dictionary member or optional argument it is being used as the value of.
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# [16:43] <froydnj> is matching |digits literal-decimal-point digits|
# [16:43] <Yoric> jmaher: In which component should I file this?
# [16:43] <froydnj> or
# [16:43] <@bz> The value of the integer token MUST NOT lie outside the valid range of values for its type, as given in section 3.10 below.
# [16:43] <espindola> Yoric, releng I think
# [16:43] <Yoric> Thanks
# [16:43] <jmaher> Yoric: mozilla.org::release automation (general); or something like that
# [16:43] <froydnj> or a fractional value, possibly with a leading integer component
# [16:44] <@bz> So afaict it should be ok to write "optional float myarg = 1"
# [16:44] <@ehsan> froydnj: yeah I can read the regex, I just don't understand what the function does!
# [16:44] <@bz> and the type of the 1 should be considered to be float
# [16:44] <@ehsan> it just does a string expression and asserts false?
# [16:44] <froydnj> ehsan: ah! my mistake!
# [16:44] <@bz> So we should fix coerceToType to allow "1" here, imo
# [16:44] <@ehsan> bz: yeah makes sense
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# [16:45] <@bz> ehsan: I'll raise a spec issue to double-check this, but recently webidl has not been moving much. :(
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# [16:46] <espindola> ehsan, can you check if 807214 is fixed?
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# [16:47] <froydnj> if that class is doing what I think it's doing, that's a cross between kinda neat and somewhat evil
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# [16:50] <@ehsan> bz: ok, can I just fix the parser to do parseFloat?
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# [16:50] <@ehsan> espindola: not right now :( cause I need to bust my tree...
# [16:50] <espindola> ok
# [16:50] <@ehsan> espindola: you can test it too if you wanna bust yours ;)
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# [16:52] <espindola> ehsan, I just need to cause firefox to crash twice, right?
# [16:52] <jlebar> roc, Do you have any idea how CanvasRenderingContext2D::DrawWindow is affected by the fact that it's being called from a child process? I somehow broke this in bug 802366, but I don't understand where the interaction lies.
# [16:52] <@bz> ehsan: mmm
# [16:53] <@ehsan> espindola: right
# [16:53] <@bz> ehsan: checking
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# [16:53] <jlebar> roc, When I run reftests, I get a hang at reftest-sanity/invalidation.html and the child process prints out a warning: ""Flushing retained layers!"
# [16:53] <@bz> ehsan: as a first cut, I think so
# [16:53] <@bz> ehsan: but check with khuey what the issues were?
# [16:53] <@ehsan> :q
# [16:53] <espindola> ok, will give kill -9 a trie
# [16:53] <espindola> try
# [16:53] <@bz> ehsan: and I guess ask him to review. ;)
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# [16:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc21ea546a26 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 807596 - crash [@ Accessible::GetActionRule()], r=hub
# [16:57] <@ehsan> bz: ok
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# [17:01] <@bz> ehsan: ah, yes
# [17:01] <@ehsan> bz: ok, now I'm torn between giving up and using Optional<float>, or file a bug and wait :(
# [17:01] <@bz> ehsan: though a decent string-to-float lib should handle those, I'd think
# [17:01] <@ehsan> bz: problem is I don't really know python!
# [17:01] <@bz> ehsan: for your purposes, I think you should use = 1 and fix coerceToType
# [17:02] <@ehsan> ok
# [17:02] <@bz> ehsan: if self.type.isInteger() and type.isInteger():
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# [17:03] <Yoric> espindola: jmaher: Thanks.
# [17:03] * @bz thinks just adding a case in there for self.type.isInteger() and type.isFloat()
# [17:03] <@bz> and implementing it
# [17:03] <@bz> should do the trick
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# [17:15] <@ehsan> bz: nm, I just realized that I have written patches for the web idl parser before :)
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# [17:19] <froydnj> hm, no mccr8
# [17:19] <tanvi> anyone know whats busted in this code - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1898496
# [17:20] <tanvi> data["test"] = protocols[i]; //Why does this yield undefined???
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# [17:22] <tanvi> when i dump protocols[i] I get about in the console
# [17:23] <tanvi> why can't i use it to set a variable?
# [17:23] <@smaug> tanvi: thanks
# [17:23] <@smaug> odd
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# [17:25] <tanvi> trying to create a loop for my tests, instead of testing each protocol independently.
# [17:25] <tanvi> but the postmessage needs to be different for each protocol
# [17:26] <tanvi> not sure if this is a quirk because of the 2d array
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# [17:27] <shu> tanvi: you're closing over i :)
# [17:27] <shu> that's not a let i
# [17:27] <@ehsan> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=677450&action=edit
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# [17:28] <@smaug> tanvi: apparently I didn't have 'nickserv set secure on'
# [17:28] <@smaug> #it helped
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# [17:29] <tanvi> shu - can you elaborate?
# [17:31] <@bz> ehsan: r=me with the typo fixed
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# [17:33] <dhylands> Does anybody know if the word or is valid in the context #if defined(FOO) or defined(BAR) ?
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# [17:33] <froydnj> dhylands: you want ||
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# [17:33] <dhylands> THat's what I thought. or seems to work on gcc
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# [17:34] <dhylands> It surprised me
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# [17:34] <dhylands> I came across it while doing a code-review
# [17:34] <froydnj> or is a keyword, synonym for ||
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# [17:34] <froydnj> not sure it's supposed to work in the preprocessor, though...
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# [17:35] <dhylands> I can't find any documentation on it either (mind you searching for the word or is hard). I'm concerned that not all compilers would support it
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# [17:37] <shu> tanvi: you're closing over the variable i, over every iteration of the loop
# [17:38] <shu> tanvi: but when you call the closures afterwards, all those i's will have the same value, namely protocols.length
# [17:38] <shu> tanvi: and you get undefined
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# [17:39] <froydnj> dhylands: it looks like it would be allowed by (at least some versions of) the C++ spec, but I don't think you'd be unfair in requiring ||
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# [17:39] <tanvi> ah okay. because the onload and onerror functions aren't called until later
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# [17:39] <tanvi> thanks shu!
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# [17:40] <dhylands> froydnj: ok - that's what I put in the review - Thanks
# [17:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/840a9b8ec6e1 - pushkarsingh - Bug 700678 - Exit full screen mode when the app goes into the background.r=margaret
# [17:41] <shu> tanvi: np. usually you would want let to deal with precisely the problem of closing over the loop variable
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# [17:42] <tanvi> do i need to do soemthing special in order to use let in a mochitest
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# [17:43] <tanvi> an included script perhaps?
# [17:43] <@bz> tanvi: use the right language version
# [17:43] <tanvi> ah okay
# [17:43] <@bz> tanvi: but also, I'd suggest avoiding let in mochitest
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# [17:43] <marijn> when firefox throws a not-implemented exception (2147500033) is there any way to pinpoint the code that actually triggered it? (firebug's 'break on this error' doesn't seem to work in this case)
# [17:43] <@bz> tanvi: since we still kinda want to use mochitests cross-browser...
# [17:43] <tanvi> bz - then how do i do this?
# [17:43] <tanvi> hmm
# [17:43] <@bz> Do which?
# [17:44] <tanvi> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1898496
# [17:44] <tanvi> i could pass i into the function
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# [17:45] <@bz> You have several options
# [17:45] <shu> tanvi: right, basically: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1898556
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# [17:45] <@bz> You can do then nested function thing
# [17:46] <pgnd> Hi. I'm running upstream TBird & FF 16.0.2 on a quad-core linux/64 box. every once in awhile (so far, seemingly random), 'something' is pushing 3-4 of 4 CPU's usage to ~100%. It eventually settles back down -- sometimes seconds, sometimes minutes.
# [17:46] <@bz> you can do:
# [17:46] <pgnd> During these periods, the apps are unkillable with "kill -9". Doing a bit of sleuthing, while this is happening, 'cat /proc/stats' shows a change from usual "procs_blocked 0" to "procs_blocked 8".
# [17:46] <tanvi> yes, passing i in works
# [17:46] <pgnd> Is there a debug mode for FF/TBird that I can launch in that would identify which specific procs are blocked?
# [17:46] <@bz> generic_frame.onload = (function(i) {}).bind(generic_frame, i);
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# [17:47] <@bz> You can stash the "i" on generic_frame and have the function use this.i
# [17:47] <tanvi> this works - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1898557
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# [17:48] <@bz> tanvi: that's identical to the other thing you pasted
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# [17:49] <tanvi> no, its not quite identical. but nevermind anyway, it doesn't work. anyway.
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# [17:49] <tanvi> bz: i will try what you proposed
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# [17:50] <shu> tanvi: i second the .bind if you can use .bind, cleaner than nested closures
# [17:50] <pgnd> When this occurs, weird observables with the 'usual tools' are -- 'top' fails to show the high-CPU. 'htop' does. 'iostat' and 'vmstat' show nothing of interest/value. 'cat /proc/stats' only shows the change in procs_blocked :-/
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# [17:52] * Mook_as wonders why nobody's answering the BackstagePass thing in the m.d.platform mail about bug 798491 - that affects addons too...
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# [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc053eb807ce - Mark Capella - Bug 806454 - Remove sessionCache code from SessionStore component, r=bnicholson
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# [17:59] <@ehsan> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=807697#c3, how do you do that in python?
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# [18:05] <@ehsan> bz: actually, how big can those ints be?
# [18:07] <@bz> ehsan: hmm
# [18:07] <@bz> ehsan: I don't know
# [18:07] <@bz> ehsan: we end up doing int(string, base)
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# [18:08] <@bz> ehsan: looks like it's a C long
# [18:08] <@bz> ehsan: whatever precision that is on your architecture
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# [18:09] <@bz> ehsan: so I wonder whether checking that int(float(myint)) == myint is good enough here
# [18:09] <@ehsan> >>> print sys.maxint
# [18:09] <@ehsan> 9223372036854775807
# [18:09] <@bz> ehsan: to make sure the conversion to float() is not lossy
# [18:09] <@bz> ehsan: looks like you have 64-bit long. ;)
# [18:09] <@ehsan> bz: my question is, how can it be lossy?!
# [18:09] <tanvi> now both the onload and the onerror functions fire - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1898599
# [18:09] <@bz> ehsan: hmm?
# [18:09] <@ehsan> these ints are too small for that
# [18:09] <@bz> er...
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# [18:10] <@ehsan> oh
# [18:10] <@ehsan> wait
# [18:10] <tanvi> and i get a pass and a failure for each test
# [18:10] <@ehsan> nm
# [18:10] <@bz> so...
# [18:10] <@ehsan> I'm just wrong :)
# [18:10] <@bz> python float() uses double
# [18:10] <@bz> but WebIDL float really uses float
# [18:10] <@bz> so we can lose in two places:
# [18:10] <@ehsan> right
# [18:10] <@bz> ok
# [18:10] * @bz shuts up and goes back to converting unions to JS. ;)
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# [18:11] <@ehsan> bz: do you wanna review the updated patch?
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# [18:13] <pgnd> what's the right tool to identify what 'blocked procs' in Tbird & Firefox are randomly pegging my CPUs? 'strace' spews out tons, but I do not know what to look for.
# [18:13] <mbrubeck> pgnd: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler might give useful data
# [18:14] <mbrubeck> for Firefox
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# [18:14] <mbrubeck> looks like it's also available for Thunderbird
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# [18:15] <pgnd> mbrubeck: Thanks. Looks like I'd have to build a new instance from source, though, right? Not able to test the release binaries?
# [18:16] <@bz> ehsan: sure
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# [18:16] <pgnd> fwiw, @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/gecko-profiler/ tells me "Not available for your platform"
# [18:16] <BenWa> pgnd: Linux support is being worked on
# [18:17] <pgnd> BenWa: ok, thx. then out of luck for now . any other diagnostics to try?
# [18:18] <pgnd> ALthough it occurs in both TBird & FF, it appears to occur much more frequently inTbird ...
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# [18:22] <Mossop> I like that there is a https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound.messedup/
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# [18:23] <@ehsan> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=677470&action=edit
# [18:23] <@ehsan> bz: shoot, I'll fix that typo before landing ;)
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# [18:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d964811d66e - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Load favicon images asynchronously in the All Pages tab (r=mfinkle)
# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c260c5b70054 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Load top site thumbnails asynchronously in about:home (r=mfinkle)
# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd817e8facb6 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Add a version of the combined view without the images table join (r=mfinkle)
# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0b3dcdc5797 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Remove all uses of GeckoApp.mAppContext from Favicons (r=mfinkle)
# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc9d9ebf98fe - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Add API to get multiple favicons at once from DB (r=mfinkle)
# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf2d68fe2229 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Add a LRU memory cache to Favicons and corresponding API (r=mfinkle)
# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2acb72df1231 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Add LRU cache implementation (r=mfinkle)
# [18:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d9371388eeb - Lucas Rocha - Bug 785945 - Add API to get multiple thumbnails at once from DB (r=mfinkle)
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# [18:30] <BenWa> pgnd: You can try to use the profiler extension from github but it will only show limited info
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# [18:31] <BenWa> pgnd: Install the raw file https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/blob/master/geckoprofiler.xpi
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# [18:34] <pgnd> BenWa: And that's ONLY for FF, right?
# [18:34] <BenWa> pgnd: TB should also work
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# [18:35] <pgnd> BenWa: Let me try here, thx ...
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# [18:37] <@ehsan> bz: so, I think we might wanna check to make sure -2**24 << intValue <= 2**24
# [18:37] <@ehsan> bz: that would probably be saner and more predictable than the existing check
# [18:37] <@ehsan> what do you think?
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# [18:39] <pgnd> BenWa: Ok, installed and functional in TBird. So ... wait for a lock-up and try to get a profile at that point?
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# [18:39] <BenWa> pgnd: Ideally leave it profiling always and once you get a lock up you dump the profile
# [18:40] <@ehsan> hmm
# [18:40] <pgnd> BenWa: Ok. If dump AFTER the lock-up ... er ... unlocks would still contain correct info, then that's easy enuf. If I have to dump when it locks-up WHILE it's locked-up, then ... that's challenging.
# [18:41] <BenWa> You can send the hotkey during the lock up and the profile will dump once the app unlocks
# [18:41] <BenWa> it keeps a circular buffer of the last X seconds
# [18:41] <BenWa> The default setting should capture at least the last 5 seconds
# [18:41] <tanvi> got it working. thanks bz and shu for your help!
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# [18:43] <pgnd> hotkey, eh? looking ...
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# [18:45] <BenWa> pgnd: ask mconley if there's a hotkey for TB
# [18:45] <mconley> hrm
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# [18:45] <mconley> can't remember
# [18:45] * mconley checks
# [18:45] * pgnd can't even find preferences of any kind for it ... still looking
# [18:46] <mconley> pgnd: nope - it's pretty bare bones. No prefs.
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# [18:46] <mconley> pgnd: and no, looking now, I didn't set up a hotkey
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# [18:47] <pgnd> mconley: ok. so, options for capturing this info? machine is non-reponsive DURING the lockup ... and then just randomly un-locks, with procs_blocked dropping back to "0" ...
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# [18:48] <mconley> pgnd: enable profile, wait for lock, wait for lock to complete, dump profile
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# [18:48] <pgnd> mconley: within, apparently, "5 seconds" of the unlock? can THAT default be lengthened?
# [18:49] <mconley> pgnd: "5 seconds"? I haven't been reading backscroll - where does the 5 seconds come in?
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# [18:49] <mconley> ah
# [18:49] <mconley> I see
# [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2682f9a1fc58 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 807222. Fix getOwnPropertyNames to work correctly on Window. r=jst
# [18:49] <mconley> cirtcular buffer
# [18:49] <mconley> er, circular
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# [18:49] <mconley> pgnd: you could alter the add-on to attach a hotkey
# [18:50] <mconley> fork from https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon
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# [18:50] <pgnd> mconley: I can't _cause_ this problem. At least, not knowingly :-/ And when it _does_ occur, I can't cause it to unlock. That's random too.
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# [18:51] <mconley> pgnd: Do you have objections to adding a hotkey?
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# [18:51] <pgnd> mconley: As in fork, modify and build? not only am i in way over my head, somebody wants to drop another swimming pool on top of me ...
# [18:51] <mconley> pgnd: ok, give me a second, maybe I can do this quick
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# [18:52] <mconley> pgnd: oh, wait
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# [18:52] <mconley> pgnd: the accel-shift O hotkey is mapped to the wrapper's open_cleopatra
# [18:52] <mconley> hang on - lemme see...
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# [18:53] <BenWa> pgnd: without a hotkey you can quickly click on it after it unfreeze
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# [18:53] <BenWa> you can also increase profiler.entries to make it increase the buffer size (which will retain more seconds)
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# [18:53] <pgnd> BenWa: yep. assuming I stare dutifully at this pot until the water boils ...
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# [18:53] <pgnd> BenWa: about:config?
# [18:54] <mconley> hrm - hotkey binding is apparently not working.
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# [18:54] <BenWa> yea
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# [18:55] <mconley> BenWa: ctrl-shift O is the mapping, right? Do you know if hotkeys is supposed to overwrite other keyboard shortcuts?
# [18:55] <pgnd> BenWa: currently profiler.entries @ default = 100000, with profiler.interval = 10, and profiler.enabled = false (but Cleopatra is ON, i think)
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# [18:55] <NeilAway> BenWa: wait, the profiler only profiles the last 5 seconds?
# [18:55] <pgnd> oops, that's in FF. wait ...
# [18:55] <BenWa> NeilAway: depends on the profile size
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# [18:56] <BenWa> err on the profile.entries
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# [18:56] <NeilAway> BenWa: ah, because on a slow machine it takes more than 5 seconds to turn the profiler on or off or start the analysis :s
# [18:57] <pgnd> BenWa: it Tbird, profiler.enabled = false (default), profiler.entries = 100000 (user set), profiler.interval = 1 (user set)
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# [18:57] <NeilAway> BenWa: well, time to start fiddling with the prefs I guess!
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# [19:02] <@khuey> dougt++
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# [19:03] <dougt> khuey: that yammer post?
# [19:03] <dougt> or maybe my email to everybody@mozilla.com?
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# [19:04] <pgnd> mconley: Do I need to *manually* toggle profiler.enabled: false -> true, even though @Tbird status-bar says Cleopatra is "Enabled"?
# [19:04] <@khuey> dougt: the email
# [19:04] <mconley> pgnd: you shouldn't need to, no.
# [19:04] <@khuey> dougt: I haven't read yammer recently
# [19:04] <BenWa> that pref is used to enable it on startup or not
# [19:04] <pgnd> ah
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# [19:06] <dougt> for the others that didn't see it (or couldn't)....
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# [19:06] <dougt> i was complaining about our mail system and how our spam filter ate like 200 emails of mine
# [19:07] <mbrubeck> I never had postini enabled on my mozilla mail, for some reason. I just rely on Thunderbird's junk filter.
# [19:07] <@ted> dougt: i don't follow your logic though
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# [19:07] <jdm> jesup: abort: path contains illegal component: /signaling/include/CC_Call.h
# [19:07] <@ted> "google's spam filtering ate our mail, therefore we should switch all-the-way to google hosting our mail."
# [19:07] <jdm> is this familiar?
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# [19:09] <Mossop> ted: At least all the spam would be in your spam folder rather than some other system you have to remember to log in to look at
# [19:09] <jwalden> jdm: I think a newer version of hg might fix that, it looks faintly familiar to me
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# [19:10] <mbrubeck> And it looks like Postini is an optional add-on to Google Apps for Business -- we could just use "regular-strength" Gmail filtering instead, if we don't need or want the extra management features of Postini.
# [19:11] <fox2mike> okay, to set some facts straight
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# [19:12] <fox2mike> we had postini _before_ it was bought out by google
# [19:12] <jdm> grr, I'm on 2.2.3 and there's nothing more recent in yum
# [19:12] <fox2mike> when google took it over, they didn't change much
# [19:12] <fox2mike> until recently with all the google docs -> drive thing and integrating everything
# [19:12] <@ted> Mossop: i guess
# [19:12] <@ted> either way it's screwed
# [19:12] <@ted> and it's google doing the screwing
# [19:12] <fox2mike> so now postini is part of their apps + business thingy
# [19:12] <pgnd> Assuming this %*&$& thing will EVER lock-up again while I'm staring at it ... once I *have* a profile, what should I do with it? Mailing list? Come back here?
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# [19:13] <evilpie> which mailing-list is okay for discussing wiki.mozilla.org/Features?
# [19:14] <dougt> ted: i tend to think if you hand over email services to one provide and stop trying to manage it yourself, you'll have less problems.
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# [19:14] <hub> dougt: Google isn't the solution. Google is the problemn
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# [19:14] <dougt> and… this is why we can't have discussions here.
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# [19:15] <mbrubeck> pgnd: You can post a profile here or in #perf, or file a bug with the profile link.
# [19:15] <fabrice> dougt: come on, we'll soon celebrate the 1 year anniversary of the Big Mail Outage
# [19:15] <mbrubeck> I agree with dougt; GMail/Google Apps has very good filtering, better than Postini, despite the fact that they *also* own Postini
# [19:16] <pgnd> mbrubeck: Thanks. Lunch first. More staring later. Thx all for the help.
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# [19:16] <nmatsakis> does anyone else have the problem that they cannot drag windows in Nighly on mac?
# [19:16] <nmatsakis> *Nightly
# [19:16] <mbrubeck> nmatsakis: Yes, there's an open bug...
# [19:16] <nmatsakis> ok, cool.
# [19:17] <nmatsakis> as long as someone's aware
# [19:17] <@smaug> ++khuey
# [19:17] <dougt> smaug: i just got your email.
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# [19:17] <mbrubeck> nmatsakis: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806244
# [19:17] <@smaug> dougt: what did I send ? :)
# [19:17] <@smaug> ah, irccloud
# [19:18] <dougt> yeah
# [19:18] <@smaug> I was going to send something else too
# [19:18] <@smaug> apparently didn't
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# [19:25] <jhford> philor: hey, do you know what the status is on aurora?>
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# [19:26] <jhford> it's been closed all of yesterday and again today
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# [19:26] <jhford> edmorley: ^
# [19:27] <edmorley> jhford: the tree status message pretty much sums it up
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# [19:27] <edmorley> people haven't been bothering to star it
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# [19:27] <jhford> ok
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# [19:28] <jhford> i have a really small patch that's not going to break anything
# [19:28] <jhford> it's a mozconfig change for desktop b2g 64bit builds
# [19:29] <edmorley> jlebar|away, gwagner, jwatt: please can you star your aurora pushes, since they are holding the tree closed
# [19:30] <edmorley> alternatively I can back out
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# [19:32] <jhford> i could land with CLOSED TREE, but would rather not
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# [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3baf42fac879 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 806433 - Make mReleaseRunnable a ref ptr. r=smaug a=lsblakk
# [19:32] <edmorley|away> I was somewhat hoping the tree being closed might give people the incentive to remember the tree rules, but oh well :-)
# [19:33] <mbrubeck> jhford: You could star the failures...
# [19:34] <mbrubeck> (historically, that's often what used to happen on m-c -- the person who wants to push stars it, rather than the person who just pushed)
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# [19:35] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: those were the days... when people looked to see of there were failures before landing :-)
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# [19:36] <jfkthame> some of us still do!
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# [19:36] <philor> bz: looks like you're asserting
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# [19:37] <philor> edmorley|away: I didn't think my attempt at that yesterday was even remotely a success, I think we might as well just ignore aurora
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# [19:37] <jlebar|away> edmorley|away, I think the thing is, nobody knows how to star pushes anymore.
# [19:38] <jlebar|away> edmorley|away, I can try, but I think saying "it's the rule" is not going to help me succeed.
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# [19:38] <philor> since everyone ignored it and didn't star it until RyanVM starred some but not all, reopened, pushed, and starred some but not all of his
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# [19:38] <@bz> philor: hmm?
# [19:38] <@bz> philor: looking
# [19:38] <edmorley|away> aurora reopened, star or not star or ignore as you please
# [19:39] <philor> bz: oh, now it's looking way worse than when it was just a couple of crashtest assertions :)
# [19:39] <jlebar|away> edmorley|away, I can write to dev.planning about this. I don't disagree we should have protocol.
# [19:39] <@bz> hrm
# [19:39] <edmorley|away> jlebar|away: agreed; I'm working on patches to increase the number of cases that generate suggestions, it's just frustrating to have to stop working on them to star aurora
# [19:39] * @bz tries locally
# [19:39] <philor> edmorley|away: I figure I'll look at it when it merges to beta, or maybe I'll just ignore 18 and look at aurora once it's off there
# [19:39] <jlebar|away> edmorley|away, It's frustrating for anyone to stop working to star aurora. :(
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# [19:40] <@bz> How the hell did that stack happen?
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# [19:40] <@bz> or is the stack just bogus in the log?
# [19:40] <edmorley|away> jlebar|away: indeed, but in this case, the patches will reduce the effort of starring, so will alleviate the problem in the first place
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# [19:40] <@bz> Looks like the stack in the log is just bogys
# [19:40] <@bz> er, bogus
# [19:40] <edmorley|away> s/effort of/knowledge required for/
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# [19:42] <jlebar> edmorley|away, I don't know how to star these remaining oranges. In the absence of help here, I'm just going to retrigger to prove that they're intermittent.
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# [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aabf7175cc84 - Honza Bambas - Bug 807712 - Remove LOG(("nsHttpHandler::NewURI"));, r=biesi DONTBUILD
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# [19:43] <jfkthame> jlebar: the linux reftest leak is definitely a known intermittent, though i don't remember the number offhand
# [19:43] <edmorley|away> quicksearch: nsAuthURLParser
# [19:44] <edmorley|away> for the armv6, quicksearch: " TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | | exception while running reftests"
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# [19:44] <edmorley|away> for the android m2 crash, quicksearch the top frame
# [19:44] <edmorley|away> (as usual)
# [19:44] <edmorley|away> for the m8, quicksearch the python exception message
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# [19:46] <jfkthame> if only quicksearch were quick....
# [19:46] <edmorley|away> turn off searching comments by default
# [19:46] <edmorley|away> makes it a lot more pleasant :-)
# [19:47] <jfkthame> being on something other than slow hotel wifi might help, too
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# [19:48] <wsm> bsmedberg: re: Bug 767343 are you thinking, here in #devellopers?
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# [19:49] <@bsmedberg> wsm: yeah. timeless at least is a windbg expert, but I know there are more people around
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# [19:53] <wsm> windbg experts ... how would I display JS stack for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767343#c7 (I don't have a full debugger like VS on the failing laptop)
# [19:53] <wsm> timeless: ^
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# [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70516e7a23d8 - Benoit Girard - Bug 807311 - Add a CompileScript profile label. r=ehsan
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# [19:57] <mcsmurf> wsm: let me see
# [19:57] <mcsmurf> wsm: iirc it wasnt that difficult ;)
# [19:57] <@bz> philor: if I don't get anywhere on this in 5 mins, I'll back out
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# [19:59] <mcsmurf> wsm: enter ".call xpc3250!DumpJSStack()" as command
# [19:59] * @bz totally can't reproduce....
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# [19:59] <mcsmurf> wsm: actually, you first need to switch to another frame iirc
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# [20:00] <mcsmurf> wsm: so press Shift+F11 until you get to frame 3
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# [20:00] <mcsmurf> wsm: then execute the .call command
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# [20:00] <wsm> mcsmurf: k. hope I crash again :)
# [20:00] <@bz> philor: in particular the new test I added is claimed to be failing...
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# [20:00] <@bz> philor: but I can't reproduce that locally???
# [20:01] <mcsmurf> wsm: you closed the debugger already? nooo ;-)
# [20:01] * wsm don't often say that I'd like to crash again
# [20:01] <mcsmurf> wsm: always keep the debugger open! ;)
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# [20:01] <philor> bz: all our assertion stacks are bogus now, because we don't download symbols until we crash, bandwidth over ability to diagnose
# [20:01] <wsm> mcsmurf: yeah. but I've crashed 4x already today - not in debugger though, crash reporter - so odds are I can reproduce.
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# [20:01] <@bz> philor: awesome
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# [20:03] * @bz totally can't reproduce
# [20:03] <@bz> wtf?
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# [20:05] <@bz> ok
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# [20:05] <@bz> I guess I'll back out...
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# [20:05] * @bz has no clue how to debug this
# [20:05] <@bz> I wonder whether this only affects packaged builds or some such idiocy
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# [20:06] <@bz> yeeees
# [20:07] <@bz> Only affects packaged builds
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# [20:08] <philor> CLOSED TREE for your backout
# [20:08] <@bz> Fucking MozActivity
# [20:08] <@bz> ok
# [20:08] * @bz backs out for now
# [20:09] * @bz curses $%^$%^%$ b2g people
# [20:09] <@bz> This keeps coming up
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# [20:11] <froydnj> why does b2g have anything to do with this?
# [20:11] <@bz> froydnj: because MozActivity?
# [20:11] * froydnj is ignorant of MozActivity
# [20:11] <@bz> froydnj: it's a b2g thing
# [20:12] <@bz> froydnj: apparently
# [20:12] <@bz> froydnj: but it's getting partially set up in all builds
# [20:12] <@bz> froydnj: key being _partially_
# [20:12] <@bz> froydnj: so that "MozActivity" in window throws
# [20:12] <WeirdAl> is it eligible for sr?
# [20:12] <froydnj> oh, is that why I see some local m3 failures for the properties on window?
# [20:12] <froydnj> super-annoying
# [20:12] <@bz> froydnj: yes
# [20:12] <@bz> froydnj: yes, indeed
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# [20:15] <@bsmedberg> which of linux/mac would be less resource-contrained for a try run?
# [20:16] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: Neither is siginificantly constrained right now, though it looks like Linux64 had a lot of pending on Try yesterday... http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/pending.html http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/running.html
# [20:16] <@bz> er
# [20:17] <@bz> why does this thing think I'm creating new remote heads?
# [20:17] <@bsmedberg> what was your push command?
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# [20:17] <@bz> hg push inbound-push
# [20:18] <@bz> inbound-push = ssh://bzbarsky%40mozilla.com@hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound
# [20:18] <@bsmedberg> did somebody race you?
# [20:18] <@bz> no
# [20:18] <@bsmedberg> did you pull from inbound or central?
# [20:18] <@bz> inbound
# [20:18] <@bz> hmm
# [20:18] <@bz> oh, I see
# [20:18] <@bsmedberg> I mostly use "push -r."
# [20:18] * @bz strips more junk
# [20:18] <@bsmedberg> especially in my "all the release branches" repo which has aurora and beta and release
# [20:19] <@bz> philor: backed out
# [20:19] <@bz> philor: that's what I get for daring to run tests locally, I guess. :(
# [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b0ea57fe8e6 - Boris Zbarsky - Back out rev 2682f9a1fc58, bug 807222, because it assumes that people aren't putting completely broken stuff on Window, which b2g does. CLOSED TREE
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# [20:22] <mcsmurf> question on the virtualenv python during the build process: When I run a python pymake build process, pymake keeps using the "normal" python from harddisk, is that correct?
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# [20:22] <mcsmurf> so the build process does not "restart" itself to use the virtualenv python?
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# [20:23] <@bz> The good news is that once this patch lands people adding more broken stuff like this will turn the tree orange.... ;)
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# [20:23] <froydnj> hooray!
# [20:24] <Ms2ger> mcsmurf, that sounds like a reasonable assumption
# [20:24] <Ms2ger> But ask gps
# [20:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3d1432add5d8 - Rail Aliiev - Bug 806280 - l10n stub installers on latest-mozilla-aurora-l10n and latest-mozilla-central-l10n need to be signed builds. r=catlee,ted
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# [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/028c52faa416 - Jim Mathies - Bug 807756 - Fix bad gre paths in browser debugger jsm. r=gavin
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# [20:37] <edmorley|away> philor: huzzah! https://tbpl-dev.allizom.org/php/getLogExcerpt.php?id=16659116&type=annotated&regenerate=1
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# [20:47] <Ms2ger> new Blob(["Kyle Huey is not a helicopter."])
# [20:47] <Ms2ger> [citation needed]
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# [20:48] <Ms2ger> [citation needed]
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# [20:51] <bwinton> Ms2ger: evilpie once said 'new Blob( ["Ms2ger is actually a shared account by Bill Gates and bz."])'
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# [20:56] <wsm> mcsmurf: crash time
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# [20:57] <mcsmurf> wsm: I hope you still have the instructions :)
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# [20:57] <wsm> mcsmurf: should I do ~* kp;!analyze -f;lm first? or after your steps? or doesn't matter?
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# [20:58] <mcsmurf> wsm: do you expect me to know what this does? ;-)
# [20:58] <mcsmurf> although I remember a bit about analyze
# [20:58] <wsm> mcsmurf: that's just the standard "get me a stacktrace stuff
# [20:59] <mcsmurf> then do it before
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# [21:00] <wsm> mcsmurf: k. your steps first
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# [21:00] <mcsmurf> wsm: actually I meant the other way round ;)
# [21:00] <mcsmurf> but dunno if it really matters
# [21:00] <wsm> ah
# [21:00] <wsm> y. i'm thinkigng it shouldn't matter
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# [21:03] * wsm good so far - it's the same crash sig
# [21:03] <NeilAway> mcsmurf, wsm: xul!DumpJSStack these days
# [21:03] <mcsmurf> right, makes sense
# [21:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee249a58f7d7 - Benoit Girard - Bug 805355 - Disabling screenshoting by default to fix startup crash in _pixman_implementation_fill. r=blassey
# [21:03] <mcsmurf> or maybe no xul! needed at all?
# [21:03] <mcsmurf> not sure how smart windbg is
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# [21:04] <NeilAway> bz: does this brokenness extend to breaking DOM Inspector from inspecting a document's defaultView?
# [21:05] * wsm windbg being slow
# [21:05] <wsm> will try .call DumpJSStack()
# [21:06] <jesup> jdm: ping
# [21:06] <NeilAway> bwinton: no, you're supposed to say "was it not evilpie who once said '...'
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# [21:06] <bwinton> NeilAway: I'm not good with computers.
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# [21:07] <NeilAway> wsm: depends on whether a) you have windbg set to load all symbols (slow) or b) windbg happens to have already loaded the symbol
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# [21:07] <decoder> espindola: very cool, thx.. ill try later
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# [21:08] <NeilAway> bah, I can't seem to get firebot to say the phrase in that way
# [21:08] <wsm> NeilAway: mcsmurf I did shift+f11 3x and I see three "gu" and alll the data after it is the same each time. Is that good?
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# [21:08] <espindola> decoder, np, thanks again for the report
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# [21:08] * wsm hope hit correct key
# [21:08] <NeilAway> wsm: is this for an assertion?
# [21:09] <NeilAway> wsm: sounds reasonable in that case
# [21:09] <wsm> NeilAway: access violation
# [21:09] <wsm> bug 767343
# [21:09] <NeilAway> wsm: in that case g isn't going to get you very far ;-)
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# [21:13] <NeilAway> wsm: ok, so type .frame 2
# [21:14] <wsm> gives me xul!nsSupportsStringImpl::SetData+0x204fb9 [e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-cen-w32-ntly\build\xpcom\ds\nss ...
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# [21:14] <NeilAway> wsm: ok, ?? aData
# [21:14] <wsm> xul!nsSupportsStringImpl::SetData+0x204fb9 [e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-cen-w32-ntly\build\xpcom\ds\nss
# [21:14] <wsm> grr
# [21:14] <wsm> 02 0013b794 60427b30
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# [21:16] <wsm> NeilAway: sound good?
# [21:16] <NeilAway> wsm: not what I was expecting actually, but maybe I gave you the wrong command
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# [21:18] <wsm> NeilAway: just realized bsmedberg's question was two-part - a) what data is being set, and b) js stack
# [21:18] <wsm> at that frame
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# [21:21] <NeilAway> bah, I forgot the xul! again
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# [21:24] <wsm> NeilAway: np. heads up, i need to go "in transit" in 1/2 hour
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# [21:25] <wsm> mcsmurf: ^
# [21:25] <@bsmedberg> wsm: normally you can print the stack frame to stdout by doing "call DumpJSStack()"
# [21:25] <@bsmedberg> wsm: although I've had issues with that sometimes, and I don't know if you have a console showing stdout
# [21:25] <NeilAway> wsm: yeah, just trying to find the right command for you, windows machine is being slow
# [21:25] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: it outputs to windbg these days too
# [21:25] <@bsmedberg> oh, awesome
# [21:25] <NeilAway> aargh
# [21:26] <NeilAway> typoed, which means windbg will do another trawl of every symbol under the sun
# [21:26] <gcp> dcamp: ping
# [21:26] <NeilAway> oh wait, it's too clever for me, it's case preference
# [21:26] <dcamp> gcp: yo
# [21:26] <wsm> i believe it is showing stdout, because i am seeing all manner of stuff in windbg while firefox is running
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# [21:27] <NeilAway> wsm: ok, so the thing is, when I type ?? aData it says class nsAString_internal * 0x05a2b6b0
# [21:27] <wsm> .call yeilds
# [21:27] <wsm> "Thread is set up for call, 'g' will execute"
# [21:27] * wsm do "g"?
# [21:27] <NeilAway> wsm: yeah, you've abandoned what I was doing
# [21:27] <NeilAway> wsm: so you might as well g
# [21:28] <wsm> it just reguritated the same info
# [21:29] <NeilAway> crap
# [21:30] <NeilAway> my windbg decided I wanted to kill the process
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# [21:30] <wsm> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1899157
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# [21:30] <NeilAway> just because there was a stray alt in the keyboard buffer
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# [21:34] <NeilAway> wsm: ok, so .frame 2
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# [21:34] <NeilAway> wsm: then dd poi(aData) l3
# [21:34] <gps> mcsmurf: the pymake environment should contain the virtualenv
# [21:35] <wsm> NeilAway: 0260e258 79c00000 00f4729c 00000001
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# [21:36] <NeilAway> wsm: ok, try du 0x79c00000
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# [21:37] <wsm> NeilAway: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1899161
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# [21:38] <wsm> that looks to be sessionstore data
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# [21:39] <NeilAway> wsm: indeed
# [21:40] <NeilAway> wsm: 16MB of it
# [21:40] <wsm> so perhaps an issue rellated to bug 511135
# [21:41] <NeilAway> wsm: is this 32-bit Windows?
# [21:41] <wsm> and sessionstore.js is ~<16MB
# [21:41] <wsm> NeilAway: yes. vistsa
# [21:42] <NeilAway> wsm: what does task manager say for the process's memory
# [21:42] <NeilAway> wsm: you need to choose the commit size column
# [21:42] <wsm> NeilAway: somewhat nominal work set ~760MB, peak 1.3GB
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# [21:43] <wsm> commit is 1,367,`26k
# [21:43] <wsm> commit is 1,367,136k
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# [21:45] <NeilAway> wsm: I take it that's an opt build? there's too much inlining to be sure, but I can only assume that you can't allocate 16MB
# [21:45] <wsm> NeilAway: it's a stock downloaded nightly
# [21:45] <wsm> .exe install
# [21:46] <NeilAway> wsm: ok, so I can't really help any more then
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# [21:46] <wsm> NeilAway: thanks. at least i know it's related to some of my other crashes and not necessarily something new
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# [21:47] <wsm> my more frequent crash stacks have sig "Empty...corrupt"
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# [21:53] <Ms2ger> Standard8, yt?
# [21:54] <Standard8> Ms2ger: yep
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# [21:54] <evilpie> which mailing-list would be good to discuss something related to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features
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# [21:54] <gps> bsmith: what's the preferred way to tell XHR that I'm only going to be performing a single HTTP request and I don't want the connection to linger? setRequestHeader("Connection", "close")?
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> Standard8, is bug 724704 something we'd like to see fixed?
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> (franceinf was asking in #introduction)
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# [21:56] <Standard8> Ms2ger: I wouldn't have any objections if it get someone started, bwinton may have a thought as well
# [21:56] <bsmith> gps: I am not sure we support that. I would ask mcmanus in #necko
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# [21:56] * Ms2ger will interpret as "yes" :)
# [21:56] <Ms2ger> franceinf, so there you go
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# [21:59] <evilpie> dria: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.planning/q_mV9aG8Lfs/discussion
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# [22:00] <dria> yeah that's mostly not me anymore -- try asking the project managers? I"m not sure what the status is around any of that.
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# [22:01] <evilpie> dria: okay, how do i find them?
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# [22:02] <dria> evilpie: smooney runs the project mgmt team
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# [22:04] <evilpie> smooney: ping :)
# [22:04] <smooney> evilpie, here
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# [22:05] <evilpie> smooney: would you mind looking at https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.planning/q_mV9aG8Lfs/discussion, i have some concerns how we treat feature pages today
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# [22:09] <smooney> evilpie…sure. the feature pages were largely used to capture what we are building and why. they get out of date immediately as you can see. We learned a bunch of things from that tough. I think the product team is moving toward something different to capture use cases and scenarios. As for the project team we are looking at something a bit different to help capture status. I think we tried to make the feature pages cover everything and
# [22:09] <smooney> that's difficult. Myself or Asa can respond to the post.
# [22:09] <smooney> evilpie, does that help?
# [22:10] <firebot> Check-in:
# [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f710f9f6f7ec - Benoit Jacob - Bug 806369 - Stagefright blacklisting. Also extends Android Gfxinfo to support blacklist rules by Android API version, Model, Product, Hardware, Manufacturer -
# [22:10] <firebot> r=joe,doublec
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# [22:11] <evilpie> smooney: this does seem to reflect my understanding of the current status
# [22:12] <evilpie> do we have plans for some kind of dashboard or something more connected to bugzilla?
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# [22:16] <@roc> why does nsIObserver use a string for aTopic instead of an nsIAtom*?
# [22:17] <jst> roc: because we want to be able to use nsIObserver on threads other than the main thread?
# [22:17] <jst> not that I know we do though...
# [22:17] <@roc> maybe we do
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# [22:18] <@roc> #define NS_ENSURE_VALIDCALL \
# [22:18] <@roc> if (!NS_IsMainThread()) { \
# [22:18] <@roc> NS_ERROR("Using observer service off the main thread!"); \
# [22:18] <@roc> I guess not
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# [22:18] <@roc> I suppose changing it would break the addons universe
# [22:19] <@roc> although maybe we could introduce a different kind of observer that gets notified with an nsIAtom*, and change our internal observers to use that
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# [22:24] <@smaug> nsIObserver is used also for other things than just observerservice
# [22:24] <@smaug> though, not sure if any of those cases if off-main-thread either
# [22:25] <@roc> if we did this, we'd introduce a new interface nsIAtomObserver or something like that and support both kinds of observers from the service. So nsIObserver wouldn't change.
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# [22:25] <@smaug> ok
# [22:25] <@smaug> that would be nice
# [22:25] <Ms2ger> Yes please
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# [22:26] * @roc assigns the bug to Ms2ger
# [22:26] <Ms2ger> roc, you know some things about canvas, right?
# [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0d55648fbf5 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 797162 - Add make target for b2g xpcshell tests, r=ted
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# [22:27] <Ms2ger> roc, because I have 50-something patches I need a reviewer for :)
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# [22:27] <@roc> I do
# [22:27] <@smaug> Ms2ger: what kind of patches ?
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# [22:28] * @roc guesses patches to make canvas methods infallible
# [22:28] <Ms2ger> Updating test_canvas.html
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# [22:30] <@roc> oh well
# [22:30] <Mook_as> for nsI(Atom?)Observer: getting an atom is also more painful than just a string, for things that don't fire very much
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# [22:30] <@roc> in Gecko, we have nsGkAtoms
# [22:31] <@roc> so whenever Gecko's firing something, getting an atom is trivial
# [22:31] <Mook_as> oh, I was mainly thinking about from script
# [22:31] <@roc> the string method would still be there and would do the atom lookup
# [22:32] <@roc> Ms2ger: a lot of canvas methods are actually infallible (or should be), but aren't marked as such currently
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# [22:32] <Ms2ger> If you pass a JS string to a function that takes an nsIAtom, that just works
# [22:32] <Mook_as> it does? huh. never knew that; thanks :)
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# [22:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/de2e5f230811 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 802734 - Add a checkbox for sending telemetry ping information. r=jimm
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# [22:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5a37fa4fe004 - Robert Strong - Bug 802734 - Add installer telemetry ping information. r=bbondy
# [22:33] <Mook_as> (there's a few in-tree js users of the atom service, mainly dealing with nsITreeViews)
# [22:34] * @roc braces himself and opens public-audio
# [22:34] <@smaug> oh dear
# [22:34] <Ms2ger> roc, it could be public-html ;)
# [22:34] * Ms2ger tries to figure out if he can kill GetStyleAsStringOrInterface
# [22:34] <@roc> public-html is fine, because I can just not care
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# [22:35] <Ms2ger> Fair
# [22:35] <@roc> huh
# [22:35] <@roc> no-one actually replied on the trouble thread
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# [22:35] <philor> neat, a linux64 talos crash with a non-busted stack, too bad I don't know what it means
# [22:36] <mcsmurf> trouble thread?
# [22:36] <@roc> don't ask
# [22:36] <mcsmurf> ok :-)
# [22:36] * Ms2ger asks
# [22:36] <Ms2ger> Ugh, SetStyleFromJSValue
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# [22:37] <@roc> Ms2ger: this thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012OctDec/0205.html
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# [22:38] <Ms2ger> Oh, I briefly looked at that, and then realized I don't care about this audio stuff :)
# [22:39] <@roc> there aren't enough people who care about both audio stuff and Web standards
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> It appears so
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# [22:40] <@roc> I don't particularly care about audio stuff either, but it has to be done
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> ^ cool guy
# [22:40] <@roc> in a way, I don't be particularly care about the *Web*, but it has to be done :-)
# [22:41] <@roc> anyone know Jim Chen's IRC nick?
# [22:42] <mbrubeck> roc: jchen
# [22:42] <@roc> thanks
# [22:42] <gps> is there a way for me to JSON.stringify() to a stream? I don't want my large object to be buffered as a string
# [22:43] <Ms2ger> nrc, hey, how's the nsIDOMCanvasRenderingContext2D going? :)
# [22:43] <@roc> it's removed
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# [22:43] <@roc> actually it's not
# [22:43] <@roc> the implementation was removed
# [22:43] <Ms2ger> Actually it wasn't :)
# [22:43] <@gavin> gps: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/json/nsIJSON.idl#37 ?
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# [22:44] <@gavin> hrm, though that comment says you shouldn't use it
# [22:44] <Ms2ger> [deprecated...
# [22:44] <@gavin> it's suggested alternatives don't seem very good
# [22:44] <@roc> Ms2ger: the implementation sure is gone
# [22:44] <nrc> Ms2ger: I started last night (Kiwi time), but didn't do any more after we talked - it's a side project, but it doesn't look hard, so hopefully I'll get it done at the weekend
# [22:44] <gps> gavin: looks like what I want but deprecated and comments seem worrying
# [22:45] <Ms2ger> nrc, \o/
# [22:45] <gps> gavin: you wouldn't know if it's possible to use an nsIInputStream with XHR.send() would you?
# [22:45] <Ms2ger> gps, yeah, nsIJSON isn't what you want, sorry
# [22:46] <Ms2ger> And that might work
# [22:46] <Ms2ger> void send(InputStream data);
# [22:46] <gps> Ms2ger: unfortunately I need to send compressed JSON
# [22:46] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
# [22:46] <gps> trying to figure out if there's a way I can do it without incurring 2 extra large strings
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# [22:54] <gps> gavin: I want to zlib compress a JSON string. I don't think I can stream all the way. but, I would like to use ArrayBuffer to hold the compressed data instead of string. I think the question I'm asking is "how do I convert the arguments passed to nsIStreamLoaderObserver.onStreamCompplete to a typed array?"
# [22:54] <@gavin> I don't have any ideas offhand
# [22:55] <@gavin> and am about to go into a meeting
# [22:55] <gps> gavin: can you redirect me?
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# [22:55] <gps> I don't know who would know :(
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# [22:57] <cjones> anyone recognize this orange: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16650087&tree=Mozilla-Aurora#error0 ?
# [22:57] <cjones> ohai philor
# [22:57] <philor> looking
# [22:57] <cjones> we crashed but fail to exec the minidump processor
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# [22:58] <cjones> crash looks like 792873
# [22:58] <philor> cjones: bug 795206, patch landed, pretty soon that'll be the ionmonkey crash instead
# [22:58] <cjones> thanks!
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# [22:59] <Mook_as> gps: would a stream converter around your stream work?
# [23:01] <gps> Mook_as: which problem are you asking about? essentially I want to go from JS value to compressed HTTP request body as efficiently as possible
# [23:01] <gps> JS Object -> JSON -> zlib -> HTTP entity body
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# [23:01] <Mook_as> ah, I thought you already had a stream of the (uncompressed) json, but I guess not
# [23:02] <gps> Mook_as: apparently there isn't a JSON.stringify() that outputs a stream :(
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# [23:02] <gps> and I'm not sure if it's possible to feed an nsIInputStream into XHR.send()
# [23:03] <Mossop> You can
# [23:03] <Mossop> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/XMLHttpRequest#send%28%29
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# [23:04] <gps> Mossop: \o/
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# [23:05] <philor> who wants to tell me what an opaque virtualenv failure means?
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# [23:05] <gps> philor: clobber
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# [23:06] <gps> philor: link?
# [23:06] <philor> gps: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16668454&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [23:06] <philor> and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16667918&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [23:06] <gps> gah
# [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16772d0c770c - Matt Joras - Bug 798033 - Removes 'using namespace' from toolkit headers - r=bsmedberg
# [23:07] <gps> this came up in a user-reported bug in the last 24 hours
# [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb9c03d12542 - Matt Joras - Bug 798033 - Removes 'using namespace' from widget headers - r=roc
# [23:07] <gps> apparently it is a bug in virtualenv
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# [23:07] <gps> philor: reopen bug 805835
# [23:07] <gps> I'll cherry pick the upstream virtualenv fix into the tree
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# [23:08] <gps> I didn't realize we were actually seeing it on buildbot
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# [23:08] <philor> don't think we did before this, it came as a nasty shock to me
# [23:09] <mcsmurf> gps: (re: my pymake question from...a few hours ago) ah ok, I was just wondering when for example a user (under Windows) has a python2.7.exe in his path and also a python.exe (with another version, for example 2.5) in the $PATH var
# [23:09] <gps> philor: I breathed on the Python/virtualenv code a few weeks ago and the house of cards came down
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# [23:09] <philor> I had the knife all ready, pressed to gwagner's throat, when I realized "sure, it'll be fun to slice someone's throat, but will it really fix this failure?"
# [23:09] <mcsmurf> if then the pymake build process uses another python.exe version than the python scripts inside the build process
# [23:09] <mcsmurf> not that it actually matters(?)
# [23:09] <mcsmurf> just something I was thinking about when I looked at this
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# [23:10] <gps> mcsmurf: during configure we detect Python via |which python2.7 python2.6 python|. that binary is installed into the virtualenv. any $PYTHON from the makefiles should reference the virtualenv's Python
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# [23:11] <gps> now, when you run pymake by hand, things can get weird
# [23:11] <gps> that is why I want a command (like mach) to proxy all invocations of make/pymake
# [23:11] <mcsmurf> I see
# [23:11] <gps> no matter which Python you use to invoke the driver, the proper Python executable is always used for "real" work
# [23:12] <mcsmurf> yeah
# [23:12] <@roc> if you don't sleep, bugmail doesn't pile up. It's great.
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# [23:18] <gwagner> philor: heh I don't think this red is caused by my change.
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# [23:21] <philor> gps: so, will the clobber I set just for the fun of it help, and if it does will it only help for a few hours?
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# [23:21] <philor> because now we've got two more, and I'm closing inbound for a bit
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# [23:33] <philor> [@ std::__node_alloc_impl::_S_refill] - what incompetant hack wrote that std:: garbage?
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# [23:41] <njn> philor: probably someone from Google
# [23:42] <philor> ah, that explains it!
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# [23:45] <njn> philor: we imported various bits of Google code that uses std:: :/
# [23:46] <gps> philor: it's probably an intermittent failure
# [23:46] <gps> philor: it's not happening everywhere, is it?
# [23:46] <gps> if it is, then releng pushed something
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# [23:47] <gps> oh, inbound is busted. WTF
# [23:47] <philor> gps: yeah, inbound is both the only place with any number of builds going, and the only place it's busted
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# [23:48] <philor> njn: well, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16669410&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error0, it's an Android crash, so we don't even really need to have imported it
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# [23:52] <@dolske> count the shots first!
# [23:52] <philor> since virtualenv bustage should happen in 5 minutes, and both my clobber-retriggers have been going far longer than that
# [23:53] <philor> yeah, it was 4 shots, but maybe that's all he loaded, empty under the hammer and so old and forgetful that 4 seemed like 5
# [23:53] <philor> inbound's open for bustage
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# [23:58] <cjones> philor, do you recognize "MINIDUMP_STACKWALK binary not found: ~/bin/minidump_stackwalk" on our same favorite android crash?
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# [23:59] <philor> cjones: you know how I said that patch was going to fix the "Exec format error"? what I meant was it was going to bust things in a different way instead
# Session Close: Fri Nov 02 00:00:00 2012

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