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4. # [00:00] <cjones> :)
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6. # [00:00] <cjones> gwagner, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16670192&tree=Mozilla-Aurora#error0 on your push
7. # [00:00] <philor> before, we tried to run the mac minidump_stackwalk on the linux foopies; now we try to run the mac minidump_stackwalk on the mac foopies from a place where it isn't
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9. # [00:01] <cjones> i just saw this on android, fwiw
10. # [00:01] <cjones> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16669795&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
11. # [00:01] <gwagner> cjones: oh I guess bug 776668 is missing
12. # [00:01] <philor> yeah, but it's the foopies, the servers which control the tegras, where the stack is getting processed
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15. # [00:02] <njn> bz_dinner: do you know if the comment about the union in |struct nsGlobalNameStruct| is accurate?
16. # [00:02] <philor> so, who's watching mozilla-central for dao?
17. # [00:02] <gps> philor: how did inbound recover?
18. # [00:02] <philor> gps: clobber and enough retriggers
19. # [00:03] <philor> if anyone has a reason why I shouldn't close every tree, speak up
20. # [00:03] <gps> did it ever fail after clobber?
21. # [00:03] <philor> nope
22. # [00:03] <gps> I suspect that's all that was needed
23. # [00:03] <philor> we'll see whether that's a lasting fix, or just until the next dep build
24. # [00:04] <gps> was the reconfig the root cause?
25. # [00:04] <philor> can't be
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27. # [00:05] <philor> failed before the one currently happening, and the earlier one was much earlier, and touched things like Tb's path, and b2g's path
28. # [00:05] <philor> well, okay, can be, of course, but seems mistimed to be
29. # [00:05] <gps> weird
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35. # [00:08] <gwagner> cjones: building and testing with the patch now
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39. # [00:14] <gwagner> cjones: fixed!
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51. # [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c5fbfc1b1a94 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout e35f252ca573 for mochitest-other orange.
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54. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/745af560fd80 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 807805 - Remove app.reportCrashes from b2g.js now that we have crash reporter settings in the UI. r=fabrice
55. # [00:29] <gps> how would I get the list of types supported by nsIStreamConverter?
56. # [00:29] <froydnj> go look up its xpcom module definition
57. # [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2351bf10a09 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 807697 - Enable integer to float type coercion in the Web IDL parser; r=bzbarsky
58. # [00:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54ef53ee4af9 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 807533 - Implement DelayNode; r=bzbarsky
59. # [00:29] <gps> froydnj: where would I find the xpcom module definitions for the bits that do compression?
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61. # [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b5fa3dd0a07 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout e35f252ca573 for mochitest-other orange.
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66. # [00:34] <froydnj> gps: I think you want http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/build/nsNetModule.cpp#366
67. # [00:35] <gps> froydnj: I also just found https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libjar/zipwriter/src/nsDeflateConverter.cpp#16
68. # [00:35] <froydnj> gps: I was just about to paste that to you
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71. # [00:36] <froydnj> *sigh* at there being two very different places for this stuff
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74. # [00:36] <gps> froydnj: although I'm a bit confused about the congruency involved for nsDeflateConverter.cpp
75. # [00:36] <gps> you need both types to be compatible with each other
76. # [00:36] <gps> what are those nsDeflateConverter types compatible with?
77. # [00:37] <gps> is there a special type meaning none/raw data?
78. # [00:37] <froydnj> gps: I don't understand the question
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80. # [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/505785fec80e - Hannes Verschore - Bug 806793: disable hoisting shape guards after bailing because of a shape guard, r=jandem
81. # [00:38] <gps> when I call asyncConvertData, what is the source type for generic, bytestreams?
82. # [00:38] <froydnj> "uncompressed"
83. # [00:38] <gps> I tried that and it is erroring :/
84. # [00:39] <gps> asyncConvertData("uncompressed", "deflate") is bombing
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86. # [00:39] <gps> but asyncConvertData("uncompressed", "gzip") works just fine
87. # [00:40] <gps> I /think/ gzip == deflate + file headers
88. # [00:40] <froydnj> that's because deflate isn't completely implemented :(
89. # [00:40] <froydnj> e.g. see nsDeflateConverter.cpp:AsyncConvertData
90. # [00:41] <froydnj> er. hm.
91. # [00:41] <froydnj> gps: yes, that's a more-or-less accurate understanding
92. # [00:41] <gps> so, I can't go from uncompressed to deflate, only uncompressed to gzip
93. # [00:42] <froydnj> what is the error for "uncompressed"/"deflate"?
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96. # [00:42] <froydnj> gzip also includes a crc at the end of the data stream
97. # [00:42] <froydnj> I think the gzip overhead is quite minimal compared to deflate
98. # [00:42] <gps> well, maybe it is working now
99. # [00:43] <froydnj> and probably easier to deal with in terms of other tools
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101. # [00:43] <gps> isn't there a "compress" that should be gzip without the extra headers?
102. # [00:43] <gps> essentially raw zlib output
103. # [00:44] <froydnj> deflate is raw bits
104. # [00:44] <froydnj> there's a "zlib" format
105. # [00:44] <gps> ugh. so confusing
106. # [00:44] <froydnj> which is a very small header and a crc-like check
107. # [00:44] <froydnj> and then gzip
108. # [00:45] <gps> well, "zlib" isn't supported: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIStreamConverterService.asyncConvertData]
109. # [00:47] <edmorley|away> froydnj: re your blog post, is the -r (--no-builtin-rules) for performance reasons?
110. # [00:48] <froydnj> edmorley|away: yes, but it depends on the version of make, apparently
111. # [00:48] <edmorley|away> ah
112. # [00:49] <froydnj> edmorley|away: rules.mk has what should be the identical makefile-based invocation
113. # [00:49] <gps> you shouldn't need --no-builtin-rules with our build system since we define the right Makefile variables to nuke them
114. # [00:49] <froydnj> but -r made a big difference when I was playing around with early incarnations of mach
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116. # [00:49] <gps> froydnj: that was not the same build system :)
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119. # [00:50] <froydnj> gps: oh, that's true, that version of mach didn't have the proper Makefile variables, didn't it?
120. # [00:50] <gps> also, thanks for looking at making those jit tests run faster
121. # [00:50] <gps> froydnj: correct. that tree had a separate build backend that wrote out new .mk files
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123. # [00:50] <gps> it was bypassing rules.mk
124. # [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e43a2b8ee840 - Sam Garrett - Bug 771554 - Removing autolog and having tps write-out results to JSON so that coversheet can handle them, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD(NPOTB)
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127. # [00:51] <froydnj> np, I'm not sure anything's going to come of it
128. # [00:51] <froydnj> sfink suggested that jit_tests and jstests really need to be merged, and jstests already has parallel invocation bits
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130. # [00:53] <sfink> I'm good at applying stop energy like that
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132. # [00:53] <Mook_as> gps: IIRC, the "gzip" stream converter is a lie, it doesn't actually add headers
133. # [00:53] <Mook_as> (i.e. it isn't the gzip file format)
134. # [00:54] <gps> Mook_as: that is useful to know!
135. # [00:54] <froydnj> also doesn't solve the "spawn a billion processes" problem :(
136. # [00:54] <gps> Mook_as: so what /is/ the gzip converter format?
137. # [00:54] <froydnj> sfink: I was definitely neutralized today ;)
138. # [00:54] <Mook_as> deflate with different settings, IIRC
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141. # [00:58] <gps> well, gzip("hello").length == 25 and deflate("hello").length == 13
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146. # [01:11] <@dolske> this article confused me, because I thought it was TBPL for a moment. http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/01/apple-seeds-first-ios-6-1-beta-to-developers/
147. # [01:11] <@dolske> oh no, the 3GS suite went blue! O_o
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150. # [01:13] <gcp> gavin: "pretty serious" -> take a look at bug 807852 and cry
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152. # [01:13] <gcp> gavin: fwiw Firefox 3.5 has the broken code already
153. # [01:13] <gcp> dcamp will like this one, too
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155. # [01:13] <dcamp> no I won't.
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158. # [01:15] <@dolske> heh
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162. # [01:16] <edmorley|away> does anyone know what the plan is for merging the metro work from elm to mozilla-central
163. # [01:16] <edmorley|away> I've just seen it mentioned in the planning meeting notes
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165. # [01:17] <@gavin> :(
166. # [01:18] <edmorley|away> but elm has ~2500 changsets on hg incoming in m-c, due to the old elm having it's head lopped off and closed, so I'm really hoping a straight merge isn't done (given the fun and games we had stripping webrtc's initial landing for bringing old changesets with it)
167. # [01:18] <NeilAway> Mook_as: mind you, can you compare the atom against the string in the observe callee?
168. # [01:18] <@gavin> there was some discussion about this a while back
169. # [01:18] <@gavin> I think the plan of record was to merge wholesale
170. # [01:19] <@gavin> are you worried about performance problems?
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173. # [01:20] <NeilAway> philor: if you ever need to land a spelling fix, would you mind fixing "diry datasource during"?
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176. # [01:23] <philor> NeilAway: sure - it should be "diry dancing," right?
177. # [01:23] * KWierso|Home votes for "dairy datasource"
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180. # [01:26] <RyanVM> philor: i'll star up the m-oth failures once the backout confirms they're fixed as penance for merging the busted cset over to inbound
181. # [01:26] <NeilAway> KWierso|Home: well, it would at least grate less on my eyes than diry dancing
182. # [01:26] <KWierso|Home> ha....
183. # [01:26] <KWierso|Home> grate...
184. # [01:26] <KWierso|Home> cheese
185. # [01:27] * NeilAway didn't realise there was a pun there because it was so cheesy
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187. # [01:29] <edmorley|away> gavin: yes & repo size bloat
188. # [01:30] <edmorley|away> gavin: elm was psuedo-reset to m-c tip & head closed rather than requesting a reclone, so there are 1500 unrelated-to-metro changesets that would be brought across by the merge
189. # [01:30] <edmorley|away> a transplant from c4a8b98cb809 onwards would avoid that
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193. # [01:34] <philor> RyanVM: oh, heh, nice :)
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198. # [01:38] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: since you asked, I don't mind being CCed to those bugs at all, BTW
199. # [01:38] <RyanVM> it's nice to see what's landing
200. # [01:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f8306353ae9 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 806283 - Split up and add native iterators to "object/misc" memory reports. r=jorendorff.
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203. # [01:39] <@gavin> edmorley|away: recommend you talk to jimm about that - he sent a thread to a few people a couple of weeks ago, and ehsan was recommending a full merge
204. # [01:40] <@gavin> edmorley|away: but given your concerns they'll probably reconsider - I'm not sure there was a strong conclusion
205. # [01:40] <edmorley|away> gavin: ah ok I didn't know about that discussion, thank you. I've posted in bug 747347
206. # [01:41] <@gavin> edmorley|away: just fwded you some context
207. # [01:41] <edmorley|away> cheers :-)
208. # [01:43] <@dolske> how many days of typical m-c work is 1500 changesets? </mildly curious>
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211. # [01:44] <@khuey> well most of them are backouts
212. # [01:44] <@khuey> :-P
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214. # [01:45] <@dolske> I presume those emails go straight to dougt's gmail spam folder. ;-)
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217. # [01:46] <mcsmurf> :D
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220. # [01:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0829f3b5c51e - Mats Palmgren - Bug 805153 - Check with the focus manager if our *content* is already focused. r=roc
221. # [01:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a718b68248ed - Mats Palmgren - Bug 806056 - Add a frame bit that says if a frame is allowed to have abs/fixed pos. children when the style so indicates (position/transform usually). Copy the bit to
222. # [01:49] <firebot> next-in-flows. Don't call MarkAsAbsoluteContainingBlock for style changes on an existing frame unless that bit is set (style changes that recreates the frame resets it of course). Assert in MarkAs[Not]AbsoluteContainingBlock() that the bit is set. r=bz
223. # [01:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d15d35d7443b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 806056 - Make nsContainerFrame destroy abs/fixed pos. child frames unless a derived class already did so. Assert that there are no abs/fixed pos. child frames in
224. # [01:50] <firebot> nsFrame::DestroyFrom(). r=roc
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227. # [01:52] <rnewman> bsmedberg: around?
228. # [01:53] <Callek> gps: ted other-mac-build-system-folks: should I be worried about this log on a SeaMonkey beta: http://cb-seamonkey-linuxmaster-01.mozilla.org:8010/builders/macosx64_build/builds/30/steps/make_buildsymbols/logs/stdio
229. # [01:53] <Callek> specifically lines like:
230. # [01:53] <Callek> Processing file: dist/universal/test-package-stage/xpcshell/tests/xpcom/tests/unit/data/SmallApp.app/Contents/MacOS/SmallApp
231. # [01:53] <Callek> dist/universal/test-package-stage/xpcshell/tests/xpcom/tests/unit/data/SmallApp.app/Contents/MacOS/SmallApp: no architecture 'x86_64' is present in file.
232. # [01:53] <Callek> architectures present in the file are:
233. # [01:53] <Callek> ppc (PowerPC)
234. # [01:53] <Callek> i386 (Intel 80x86)
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239. # [01:54] <@dolske> i wouldn't worry about it at all
240. # [01:54] <@dolske> it's seamonkey
241. # [01:54] <Callek> dolske: :-P :-P
242. # [01:54] <@dolske> I'm being quite serious.
243. # [01:54] <Callek> On the bright side, I don't see any warnings like that for SeaMonkey.app
244. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/966f596586fd - Andrew Quartey - Bug 792581 - part 23: Replace LL_INIT and LL_UDIVMOD macros. r=ehsan
245. # [01:54] * Callek decides to peek at a Firefox Beta run
246. # [01:55] <Callek> ...that is as long as I don
247. # [01:55] <Callek> t OOM
248. # [01:55] <edmorley|away> dolske++
249. # [01:56] <Callek> dolske: ok, "should it be worrysome that I see the *SAME* issue in the Firefox log for 17b4"
250. # [01:56] <Callek> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/candidates/17.0b4-candidates/build1/logs/release-mozilla-beta-macosx64_build-bm32-build1-build2.txt.gz
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253. # [01:57] * WG9s notices that dolske persists in saying things that piss me off.
254. # [01:57] <@dolske> I'd barely worry about it, it's beta.
255. # [01:58] * @dolske isn't being quite serious
256. # [01:58] <jwalden> WG9s: I'd barely worry about it, it's dolske
257. # [01:58] <WG9s> jwalden: now that was funny!
258. # [01:58] <@dolske> jwalden: you naked aggression will not stand!
259. # [01:58] <jwalden> :-)
260. # [01:59] <mcsmurf> gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the wa...developers room!
261. # [01:59] <Callek> mcsmurf: who you calling gentle
262. # [02:00] <WG9s> mcsmurf:so where is the fighting channel?
263. # [02:00] <mcsmurf> :P
264. # [02:00] <@dolske> mcsmurf: I hear you saying we should SAC seamonkey
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267. # [02:01] <mcsmurf> noo
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272. # [02:02] <@dolske> jwalden: hmm. you didn't bite, so I can't rebuff your puns.
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276. # [02:04] <jwalden> :-D
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280. # [02:07] <WG9s> dolske:problem is most of the things that break seamonkey break thunderbird also (but i bet you already knew that)
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283. # [02:10] <WG9s> We need to find a better way to support the non primary applications while continuing to support the ones we hafe decided the forundation no longer does but is still supporting communitiy developement on.
284. # [02:11] <mcsmurf> MoFo and MoCo are supporting community apps in a good way I think
285. # [02:11] <WG9s> hmm wll i scresed up that statement
286. # [02:12] <mcsmurf> well, could always be better, but it's ok IMHO ;)
287. # [02:12] <WG9s> yes but trying to say we sometimes havehtis attitiude that it only impacts seamonkey so we don;t care.
288. # [02:12] <WG9s> that is really not the entirely correct attitude.
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292. # [02:13] <WG9s> but then if it only negatively impacts seamonkey and it makes firefox so much better, we see toruninto issue on that.
293. # [02:13] <@dolske> you're right.
294. # [02:14] <@dolske> I don't care about seamonkey _or_ camino.
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296. # [02:14] <philor> eh, Cm was *fun* to break
297. # [02:14] <WG9s> but I am not sure the i don;t care at all is the right attitude either. we need to find a way to strike the correct balance.
298. # [02:14] <jwalden> is this argument really worth having? nobody's going to change anyone else's minds
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301. # [02:15] <WG9s> you are probably right.
302. # [02:15] <mcsmurf> keeping up with FF dev speed is probably the most difficult thing for any 3rd-part or community app
303. # [02:15] <@dolske> jwalden: but I paid for the full half hour. :(
304. # [02:15] <mcsmurf> that relies on any code/interfaces
305. # [02:15] <WG9s> but from what i understand my issues with dolske over issue s like this would be beter settled over a beer.
306. # [02:16] <jwalden> dolske: no you didn't
307. # [02:16] <@dolske> ^5
308. # [02:16] <WG9s> i brew my own beer and tahnk you I do not use 5 gallon paint cans inmy kitchen
309. # [02:17] <WG9s> have a place that lets me use theire sort of prfessional equipment to brew 6 cases worth of beer.
310. # [02:17] <mcsmurf> say, is Camino still "following" trunk dev these days?
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312. # [02:17] <mcsmurf> I dont follow their development
313. # [02:17] <mcsmurf> or do they use some old branch?
314. # [02:17] <WG9s> i did not even know th camino project still existed myself.
315. # [02:17] <mcsmurf> or that, dunno..
316. # [02:17] <jwalden> I thought they'd blown the coop for webkit, but really I barely know
317. # [02:18] <jwalden> er, flown
318. # [02:18] <mcsmurf> also, the embedding story of Gecko is quite poor
319. # [02:18] <mcsmurf> from what I know
320. # [02:18] <WG9s> I do know there are people passionate about seamonkey and they sometimes find thisngs we boroke earlier that we would without them.
321. # [02:18] <jwalden> mcsmurf: there's a story?
322. # [02:18] <mcsmurf> either I did not work or it broke or it's way too difficult
323. # [02:18] <mcsmurf> :)
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325. # [02:19] * jwalden thinks not having a good embedding API was a strategic mistake, in terms of enlarging the community of people working on Gecko
326. # [02:19] <@dolske> it's better now that I removed the hideous goop of support for embedded prompting
327. # [02:19] <jwalden> every time I say it, someone says "what would you not have done", tho, which isn't a question I can answer without much higher-level knowledge
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329. # [02:20] <jwalden> none of which is to say gtkmozembed was any good whatsoever
330. # [02:20] <philor> Cm's still more or less sort of shipping off 1.9.2
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334. # [02:21] <Callek> ehsan: did you just see another instance of 807475 or were you just bug-triaging?
335. # [02:21] <jwalden> an embedding story would require actual effort at designing something clean, but too few people like spending effort designing, it seems, never mind the benefits to thinking before acting
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337. # [02:21] <@ehsan> Callek: I have a whine
338. # [02:21] * Callek has been watching that for signs of a "not just a one-off/one-broken-tegra"
339. # [02:21] <Callek> ehsan: kk thanks
340. # [02:22] <@dolske> jwalden: i think it ended up just being ill-timed. earlier and "mozilla as a platform" might have been interesting (though that fad clearly moved on). too little, too late, and it just made everyone unhappy.
341. # [02:22] <rnewman> Yoric: yt?
342. # [02:22] <@dolske> but tbh, I think I care about embedding even less than certain other things. :D
343. # [02:23] <rnewman> Yoric: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_OS.File/OS.File.DirectoryIterator.Entry suggests that only Windows allows access to creation date, but https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_OS.File/OS.File.DirectoryIterator_for_the_main_thread suggests otherwise
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346. # [02:24] <jwalden> dolske: "mozilla as a platform" was totally orthogonal, is the thing, to "put a little browser view in your app"; what we were willing to give was opting into an entire stack'o'stuff, not something confined, with well-delineated boundaries, but most people are understandable hesitant to tie themselves so closely to some technology stack (especially given how little we cared about it as such)
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351. # [02:26] <@dolske> jwalden: yeah, poor phrasing.
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353. # [02:28] <rnewman> Yoric: testing suggests that .creationDate returns something, but I'm pretty sure that (on Mac, at least) it's the mtime, not ctime
354. # [02:29] <rnewman> actually, even that's wrong
355. # [02:30] <rnewman> it's reporting a 2011 creation time for a file created and modified in 2004
356. # [02:30] * rnewman files
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358. # [02:33] <@dolske> rnewman: weird, if anything I'd have expected Windows to be the oddball wrt ctime/mtime.
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365. # [02:37] <jwalden> think different
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368. # [02:39] <WG9s> I am not at all surprised MAC is non-compliant
369. # [02:39] * @dolske assumed rnewman was talking Windows vs Mac/Linux.
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377. # [02:43] <WG9s> even if the kernel was stolen from Linux.
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379. # [02:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/47a455864ed7 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 807532. Clear the previous profile when Social is toggled off. r=markh,gavin a=gavin
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383. # [02:47] <rnewman> dolske: I wish :/
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388. # [02:50] * rnewman files https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=807875
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390. # [02:50] <rnewman> oh, if only our sodding portable runtime had some kind of portability features to portably tell me when a file was created
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392. # [02:53] <WG9s> rnewman: you used protable or workd derived form that 3 time in that sentence.
393. # [02:54] <@dolske> hmm. I was going to be snarky and suggest nsIFile, but it's surprisingly missing that.
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395. # [02:54] * @dolske wonders if he can implement that before 807875 is fixed. :P
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398. # [02:56] <@dolske> wow. OS.Constants.libc.OSFILE_OFFSETOF_STAT_ST_CTIME
399. # [02:57] <cjones> does anyone know how to extract a mar file?
400. # [02:57] <cjones> |mar| doesn't seem to be able to do it
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404. # [02:58] <rnewman> dolske: I'll take anything I can get ;)
405. # [02:59] <rnewman> WG9s: I used the word 'portable' whenever I felt like using the word 'fucking'
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407. # [03:00] <rnewman> and on that note, time for dinner :)
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422. # [03:02] <Callek> cjones: I found https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Manually_Installing_a_MAR_file#Overview but not sure if that helps your needs
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424. # [03:02] <cjones> Callek, it doesn't, but thanks though
425. # [03:03] <cjones> i found another way to fix my phone
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433. # [03:11] <@ehsan> firebot: uuid
434. # [03:11] <firebot> d0029474-0cc4-42fd-bb21-d9ff22f5293c (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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436. # [03:14] <@dolske> oh no, ehsan is going to beat me to it
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438. # [03:14] <@ehsan> dolske: don't use that uuid!
439. # [03:14] <@ehsan> please!
440. # [03:15] <@dolske> I'm using d0029474-0cc4-42fd-bb21-d9ff22f5293b to make it clear I was first!
441. # [03:16] * jwalden imagines a Don't Copy That UUID! rap
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444. # [03:17] <@dolske> eh, it'll be a flop
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446. # [03:17] <jwalden> \o/
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455. # [03:22] <Callek> dolske: sorry I just checked in that UUID
456. # [03:22] <Callek> too late
457. # [03:23] <Callek> but I used it in SeaMonkey, so I doubt you'll care
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474. # [03:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b5e96686b9b - Anthony Jones - Bug 802787 - Work around misreported stride. r=cpeterson
475. # [03:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5fbfc1b1a94 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout e35f252ca573 for mochitest-other orange.
476. # [03:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/556b9cfb269f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
477. # [03:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e17c3f1ca7e3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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481. # [03:40] <@dolske> Callek: well played.
482. # [03:41] <Callek> :-)
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508. # [04:34] <nrc> bz: nsStyleSet;;GetContext, aParentContext for the first element in the element tree, is passing nullptr the right thing to do?
509. # [04:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/728b0b12eb7f - Ben Turner - Bug 753981 - 'XHR in Web Workers bypasses Offline AppCache'. r=smaug.
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512. # [04:43] <@bz> nrc: you want to pass whatever the parent of the old context is
513. # [04:43] <markh> I should be able to pass an nsAutoString to a function expecting an nsAString, right?
514. # [04:43] <@bz> markh: yes
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517. # [04:44] <dougt> who here is good at math?
518. # [04:45] * @bz hides
519. # [04:45] <dougt> bz: you are perfect
520. # [04:45] <@bz> but "math" is pretty broad....
521. # [04:45] * @bz hides harder
522. # [04:45] <dougt> geometry
523. # [04:45] <@bz> Can try.
524. # [04:45] <KWierso|Home> geometry is pretty broad...
525. # [04:45] <@bz> What's up?
526. # [04:45] <dougt> spherical law of cosines?
527. # [04:45] * KWierso|Home runs
528. # [04:45] <dougt> https://bug805965.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=677171
529. # [04:46] <@bz> mmm
530. # [04:46] * @bz has never heard of it before, looks it up
531. # [04:46] <@bz> ok
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533. # [04:47] <@bz> so what's the question?
534. # [04:47] <dougt> bz: the basic problem i am attempting to solve is to filter out less accurate positions.
535. # [04:47] <@bz> ok
536. # [04:47] <dougt> on b2g - we have two geolocation providers -- the gps, and a network based one
537. # [04:48] <@bz> right
538. # [04:48] <@bz> sounds about right
539. # [04:48] <dougt> so, a case is that you'll be getting a wifi based location (maybe 100m accuracy) and a gps location (1m)
540. # [04:48] <@bz> right
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542. # [04:48] <dougt> things can change, so you can't just use accuracy to determine the "best" location.
543. # [04:49] <dougt> jdm wanted another set of eyes on this, so bz… can you look at what I am doing and tell me that things look sane.
544. # [04:49] * @bz is reading the code
545. # [04:49] <@bz> So you're getting a new position
546. # [04:49] <@bz> you grab your old position
547. # [04:50] <@bz> longitude/latitude are in degrees?
548. # [04:50] <dougt> yes
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551. # [04:50] <@bz> ok
552. # [04:50] <@bz> So you compute them in radians
553. # [04:51] <@bz> fine
554. # [04:51] <nrc> bz: as in element->GetPrimaryFrame()->GetStyleContext()->GetParent() ?
555. # [04:51] <@bz> nrc: yes
556. # [04:51] <dougt> makes the maths easier.
557. # [04:52] <dougt> At least thinking about it.
558. # [04:52] <nrc> bz: hmm, because when I passed that in it doesn't update the style properly and when I pass in nullptr it does work :-s
559. # [04:52] <@bz> nrc: that's ... very odd
560. # [04:52] <@bz> nrc: can you pastebin your code?
561. # [04:52] <@bz> nrc: and then wait a sec while I finish up with dougt
562. # [04:52] <nrc> sure on both counts
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564. # [04:53] * @bz is trying to figure out which law of cosines dougt is using
565. # [04:53] <@bz> So you're trying to compute actual distance between the two positions?
566. # [04:53] <dougt> right.
567. # [04:53] <dougt> pretending that the earth is a sphere.
568. # [04:54] <@bz> sure
569. # [04:54] <@bz> ok
570. # [04:55] <@bz> So you're applying it to the triangle formed by which three points?
571. # [04:56] <@bz> looks like north pole and the two positions?
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573. # [04:56] <@bz> (worth documenting this in the code, btw)
574. # [04:57] <@bz> In fact, worth documenting what exact algebraic formula you're using and then which variables in it correspond to what quantities in your code....
575. # [04:57] <dougt> bz: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalTrigonometry.html
576. # [04:58] <dougt> bz: that is probably a good idea.
577. # [04:58] <dougt> i think the part you want looks like:
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579. # [04:59] <dougt> well, hell…
580. # [04:59] <dougt> how do I type some of these chars
581. # [05:00] <@bz> cos(c) = cos(a)cos(b)+sin(a)sin(b)cos(C),
582. # [05:00] <@bz> You seem to be doing that
583. # [05:00] <@bz> where c is the distance between your two points
584. # [05:00] <@bz> a is the distance from first point to north pole
585. # [05:00] <@bz> b is distance from second point to north pole
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587. # [05:01] <@bz> C is angle at north pole between the two points (so difference of longitudes)
588. # [05:01] <markh> hope you guys aren't forgetting us antipodes!
589. # [05:01] <@bz> markh: I don't think we are
590. # [05:01] <dougt> bz: yes, that is right.
591. # [05:01] <KWierso|Home> "pretending that the earth is a sphere" That's just what they want you to think...
592. # [05:02] <@bz> dougt: so your sin(rNewLat) is actually cos(pi/2 - rNewLat)
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596. # [05:02] <@bz> dougt: which is the distance of newlocation from north pole
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598. # [05:02] <dougt> don't you think it is clearer to keep it this way?
599. # [05:02] <@bz> well
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602. # [05:03] <@bz> I think we should document the formula we're using
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604. # [05:03] <@bz> And then how the terms in the formula match up to what we have
605. # [05:03] * njn wonders if the earth's not-quite-sphericalness is enough to matter in this case
606. # [05:03] <@bz> After that, it becomes trivial
607. # [05:03] <dougt> njn: not really at the scale we are dealing with.
608. # [05:03] <dougt> njn: this should be good for most things.
609. # [05:03] <@bz> dougt: not even at 1m resolutions?
610. # [05:03] <@bz> but anyway
611. # [05:04] <dougt> wifi isn't going to ever get you 1m
612. # [05:04] <@bz> ok
613. # [05:04] <@bz> I agree this looks correct
614. # [05:04] <@bz> Needs more comments. ;)
615. # [05:04] <dougt> bz: that is a good comment. :)
616. # [05:04] <@bz> dougt: which is?
617. # [05:04] <dougt> how about I post a new patch and get you to r+ it later this week
618. # [05:04] <@bz> dougt: sure
619. # [05:05] <@bz> nrc: ok, with you
620. # [05:05] <dougt> bz: thanks!
621. # [05:05] <nrc> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1900365
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623. # [05:06] <nrc> bz: it's a bit roundabout, I'll explain
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626. # [05:07] <nrc> bz: line 283/4 is where I start with the 'top' transitioning element and find the parent context (or pass in nullptr instead of all of line 284)
627. # [05:07] <@bz> right
628. # [05:07] <nrc> then line 217 it gets passed to UpdateStyle (we know the first element transitions so it takes this path)
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631. # [05:08] <@bz> yes
632. # [05:08] <nrc> and we figure out the new style context at line 201/2 by calling a new method on nsStyleSet
633. # [05:08] <@bz> yep
634. # [05:08] <nrc> which calls GetContext on line 24
635. # [05:09] <@bz> yup
636. # [05:09] <nrc> but with that code, it looks like the style is not being updated
637. # [05:09] <nrc> I do get a new style
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639. # [05:09] <nrc> but the result on screen is wrong
640. # [05:09] <nrc> passing in nullptr, everything works
641. # [05:10] * @bz is thinking
642. # [05:12] <@bz> This code looks right to me...
643. # [05:12] <@bz> Apart from the incorrect handling of non-element kids in "walk the children"
644. # [05:12] <@bz> But presumably your testcase doesn't really have any text kids anyway
645. # [05:14] <nrc> bz: oh yeah, I wasn't sure what to do about, I do have a <p> with text on the div in my test, would that make a text node?
646. # [05:14] <@bz> yes
647. # [05:14] * nrc is not really clear about non-element nodes
648. # [05:15] <sfink> elements are the crispy outside, text is the creamy filling
649. # [05:15] <nrc> :-)
650. # [05:17] <@bz> So for non-elements you just want to reparent the style context
651. # [05:17] <@bz> passing a null aElement
652. # [05:18] <nrc> ok
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654. # [05:18] <@bz> So yeah, this generally looks right to me
655. # [05:18] <nrc> is that likely to change the GetContext parent context thing?
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657. # [05:19] * @bz has no idea why it's not working....
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659. # [05:20] <nrc> just tried, removing the text from the test has no effect
660. # [05:20] <@bz> right
661. # [05:21] <@bz> I assume your test just has one single element transitioning?
662. # [05:21] <@bz> no nesting?
663. # [05:21] <nrc> correct
664. # [05:22] <@bz> Can I see the testcase?
665. # [05:22] <nrc> sure, one sec
666. # [05:24] <nrc> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1900448
667. # [05:24] <nrc> sorry its a bit of a mess
668. # [05:25] <@bz> ok
669. # [05:25] <@bz> so the div is transitioning
670. # [05:25] <nrc> yep
671. # [05:26] <@bz> ok
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673. # [05:26] <@bz> Well, it having a null style context parent is definitely wrong....
674. # [05:26] <@bz> Should be parented to the sc of <body>
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677. # [05:27] <nrc> right
678. # [05:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b495a47e51d - Luke Wagner - Bug 805294 - Don't use the RegExpShared cache to track all live RegExpShareds (r=billm)
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680. # [05:31] <nrc> is a null parent context only used for root elements?
681. # [05:31] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
682. # [05:31] <@bz> yep
683. # [05:32] <@bz> (well, also for some anonymous boxes like the viewport)
684. # [05:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bf2f8cb5e73 - David Anderson - Update Yarr to WebKit rev 130234 (bug 740015, r=dmandelin).
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686. # [05:33] <nrc> is there a different from the parent of the style context (which I've used) and the style context of the parent element?
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689. # [05:35] <@bz> In general, there can be
690. # [05:35] <@bz> When things like ::first-line are involved....
691. # [05:36] <nrc> in this case is it better to use the latter?
692. # [05:36] <@bz> Not sure. :(
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695. # [05:39] <@bz> nrc: I'm pretty rapidly losing the ability to think here...
696. # [05:39] <@bz> nrc: (it's almost 1am)
697. # [05:39] <@bz> nrc: sorry. :(
698. # [05:39] <nrc> ouch, np, I lose basic motor skills by 11, never mind thinking
699. # [05:40] <@bz> ok
700. # [05:40] <@bz> I'll try to sleep on this
701. # [05:40] <@bz> but it all looks like it should work to me. :(
702. # [05:40] <nrc> thanks, let me know if you dream of anything :-)
703. # [05:41] <nrc> I'll try debugging it some more,see if I can see anything
704. # [05:42] <@bz> ok
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707. # [05:42] <@bz_sleep> good luck!
708. # [05:42] <nrc> thanks!
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719. # [05:54] * njn wonders who thought gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo.c was a good path
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722. # [05:56] <Callek> njn: better would have been graphix/cairo/egypt/src/cairo/src/cairo.c
723. # [05:56] * njn imagines Steve Ballmer yelling "Cairo Cairo Cairo!"
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728. # [06:06] <JonathanS> njn, monkey boy :)
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730. # [06:07] <JonathanS> Callek, yo dawg, I heard you like cairo, so I put cairo inside of another cairo while your working for gfx
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735. # [06:15] <njn> roc: is there a single CanvasRenderingContext2D object?
736. # [06:15] <njn> roc: i.e. @mozilla.org/content/canvas-rendering-context; ?
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738. # [06:16] <@roc> no, there's one per canvas
739. # [06:16] <@roc> at most
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741. # [06:17] <njn> roc: where is each canvas stored?
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743. # [06:17] <@roc> er
744. # [06:17] <@roc> in memory?
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746. # [06:17] <njn> roc: how do I get at it? what's the root pointer? is it in the DOM, somewhere else?
747. # [06:17] <@roc> there's an nsHTMLCanvasElement
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749. # [06:18] <@roc> phew
750. # [06:18] <@roc> for a second I thought you were nrc and must have lost your marbles
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752. # [06:18] <njn> roc: heh
753. # [06:18] <njn> roc: I'm working out where the memory allocated in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1900541 is stored, and how to report it
754. # [06:19] * nrc is losing his marbles over something completely different
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757. # [06:19] <njn> roc: CanvasRenderingContext2D::mTarget is an important point in the chain, AFAICt
758. # [06:19] <@roc> yes
759. # [06:20] <njn> roc: perhaps that is reachable from nsHTMLCanvasElement?
760. # [06:20] <@roc> so the nsHTMLCanvasElement will own a CanvasRenderingContext2D, whose mTarget is a DrawTargetCairo, which owns the cairo_t
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762. # [06:21] <njn> roc: now we're talking!
763. # [06:21] <@roc> I guess you'll want to add memory reporting API to Azure somehow
764. # [06:22] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
765. # [06:22] <@roc> although we can instrument cairo when that's what Azure is using, we can't instrument D2D or Quartz, which are used on Windows and Mac
766. # [06:22] <njn> roc: we already have GetCanvasAzureMemoryUsed()
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768. # [06:23] <njn> this old problem, sigh
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770. # [06:23] <njn> roc: does b2g use cairo?
771. # [06:25] <@roc> yes I think so
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773. # [06:29] <njn> roc: I guess nsHTMLCanvasElement::mCurrentContext is a link in that chain
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775. # [06:29] <njn> roc: while I'm asking, do you understand where the memory allocated in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1900604 ends up?
776. # [06:30] <nrc> roc has left, mCurrentContext keeps a 'cached' copy of the canvas context for a canvas
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778. # [06:31] <nrc> njn^
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780. # [06:31] <njn> nrc: is the cached copy not the canonical one?
781. # [06:32] <nrc> canonical? It is the only canvas context for the nsHTMLCanvasElement
782. # [06:33] <njn> nrc: I guess you could say it's the canoncial one, then :)
783. # [06:33] <njn> nrc: when it comes to writing memory reporters, it's all about understanding which pointers are "owning" and which aren't
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788. # [06:36] <nrc> so, I think a ...Context2D is always owned by nsHTMLCanvasElement and nsHTMLCanvasElement owns the ...Context2D in mCurrentContext and no other, but mCurrentContext is sometimes null
789. # [06:37] <nrc> actually I'm not sure about the first part, it might be possible to have temporary contexts which are not owned by a nsHTMLCanvasElement
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947. # [09:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/324d0fbac2fd - Chris Lord - Bug 797021 - Reftest for multiple background content/border box clipping. r=roc
948. # [09:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da40e6f95147 - Chris Lord - Bug 797021 - Fix border clipping with multiple background layers. r=roc
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958. # [09:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/00c925c90f86 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 756313 - Don't load the homepage before the first paint. r=enn
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961. # [09:54] <Ms2ger> dbaron++
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965. # [09:59] <tingyuan> Hello, may I know how to choose B2G platforms in try chooser? There seems to be no such options.
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967. # [10:01] <edmorley> tingyuan: workaround, use: -p ics_armv7a_gecko
968. # [10:01] <edmorley> (bug 767501)
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975. # [10:07] <tingyuan> edmorley: Got it. Thanks!
976. # [10:08] <edmorley> np
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984. # [10:12] <alexlakatos> hello
985. # [10:13] <alexlakatos> anyone from the Platform Integration team around?
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987. # [10:14] <edmorley> alexlakatos: what are you looking to ask them?
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989. # [10:14] <edmorley> Cwiiis: inbound burning
990. # [10:15] <Cwiiis> edmorley, oh :/ Let me take a look...
991. # [10:16] <alexlakatos> edmorley, need help on a bug about update interface. I've been told to ask for rstrong, but he's not around. So I'm happy with anyone from his team at this hour
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993. # [10:17] <Cwiiis> edmorley, hah, silly bug... Ok to just push a follow-up or would you prefer backout and re-land?
994. # [10:17] <jfkthame> Cwiiis: the delights of mixing signed and unsigned
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996. # [10:17] <edmorley> Cwiiis: followup fine given quiet :-)
997. # [10:17] <Cwiiis> jfkthame, yup :p Also, silly me for not pushing debug builds to try
998. # [10:17] <Cwiiis> jfkthame, we only do tests on opt android builds, gotten too used to not pushing debug...
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1003. # [10:19] <jfkthame> ah, yes - that's frustrating, i prefer to use debug on try usually, but if android tests are needed that's no good
1004. # [10:22] <Cwiiis> edmorley, r=me ok for this?
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1006. # [10:22] <edmorley> yup
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1009. # [10:25] <Cwiiis> edmorley, pushed, sorry about that
1010. # [10:25] <edmorley> np
1011. # [10:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/772a4bb004ad - Chris Lord - Bug 797021 - Allow unsigned start parameter in NS_FOR_VISIBLE_BACKGROUND_LAYERS_BACK_TO_FRONT_WITH_RANGE. r=me
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1014. # [10:29] <Cwiiis> hmm, should've probably added casts to the second assertion too, but that ought not to result in build failure anyway. I hope.
1015. # [10:29] * Ms2ger raises an eyebrow
1016. # [10:29] <Cwiiis> weird that my local debug build doesn't catch this...
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1018. # [10:31] <@smaug> !seen peterv
1019. # [10:31] <@killer> I don't know who peterv is.
1020. # [10:31] <firebot> peterv was last seen 1 day, 18 hours, 11 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying 'jesup: I don't remember ever not running that...' in #media.
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1022. # [10:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7af1c24612bb - Jonathan Kew - bug 803030 - convert display to device pixels before creating the popup child view. r=smichaud
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1027. # [10:36] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: do you know whether atoms are easy to compare to strings in JS?
1028. # [10:36] <Ms2ger> I don't
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1030. # [10:37] <Ms2ger> That may well be an issue
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1033. # [10:37] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, I was wondering whether you could write aAtom == "pref-changed"
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1035. # [10:37] <NeilAway> nsPref:changed?
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1037. # [10:38] <Ms2ger> Looks like you can do aAtom.equals("pref-changed")
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1039. # [10:39] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: if aAtom == "nsPref:changed" worked then you could switch to atoms without changing the JS side
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1041. # [10:39] <Ms2ger> Mm
1042. # [10:40] <tbsaunde> I wonder if it would be a good idea to just have xpconnect magic atoms into strings for js
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1044. # [10:40] <Ms2ger> Looks like aAtom == "nsPref:changed" will also work
1045. # [10:40] <Ms2ger> Though not ===
1046. # [10:40] <NeilAway> no, but who uses that?
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1049. # [10:41] <Ms2ger> Just me
1050. # [10:41] <NeilAway> oh, it would break switch (aAtom)
1051. # [10:41] <Ms2ger> Mm, that it probably would
1052. # [10:41] <NeilAway> you would have to switch (String(aAtom)) instead
1053. # [10:41] <mjrosenb> c++'s switch is incredibly fragile :(
1054. # [10:41] <NeilAway> this is JS :-P
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1061. # [10:48] <mjrosenb> NeilAway: oh.
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1069. # [10:56] <ekr> gps: is part of the plan for mach to eventually swap out the Makefiles?
1070. # [10:57] <Ms2ger> ekr, mach will just be a frontend to mozbuild, which will probably get rid of makefiles
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1072. # [10:58] <ekr> what's the status of mozbuild?
1073. # [10:58] <ekr> Or rather, of the replacement of makefiles :)
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1075. # [10:59] <Ms2ger> The first part, bug 784841, is waiting on reviews
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1078. # [11:03] <gaston> oh, there's two layers ?
1079. # [11:03] <gaston> insane
1080. # [11:03] <Ms2ger> How so?
1081. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> Mach is much more than just a build tool
1082. # [11:04] <gaston> it's nice that both are 'decoupled'
1083. # [11:04] <gaston> because mach wont work for me, so i hope mozbuild doesnt use the same python features that mach uses...
1084. # [11:05] <Ms2ger> Why won't mach work for you?
1085. # [11:05] <Ms2ger> Are you on ancient python?
1086. # [11:05] <gaston> sorta
1087. # [11:05] <gaston> ImportError: This platform lacks a functioning sem_open implementation, therefore, the required synchronization primitives needed will not function, see issue 3770.
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1089. # [11:05] <gaston> python 2.7, but... crippled on some aspects
1090. # [11:06] <Ms2ger> Huh
1091. # [11:07] * Ms2ger wouldn't know about that
1092. # [11:07] <edmorley> smaug, rail_away: unstarred mozilla-central failures; if you would rather not star, please use inbound
1093. # [11:07] <gaston> using multiprocessing.synchronize is a no-go for me atm.. and i'd need someone to write the sem_open implem in libc, which is not so obvious
1094. # [11:07] <jfkthame> edmorley: you've added tbpl support for a bunch of the android talos failures, haven't you? nice :)
1095. # [11:08] <gaston> same for shm_open, not implemented -> no webkit2 for us
1096. # [11:08] <edmorley> yeah :-)
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1098. # [11:08] <Ms2ger> gaston, have you filed a bug?
1099. # [11:09] <edmorley> jfkthame: I'm working on fixing android crashes such that the test filename gets shown instead of automation.py, which will help with a fair chunk of the current android failures that can't be automatically starred
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1101. # [11:09] <gaston> for mach you mean ? why would i, it's an os problem when everyone but you has an api...
1102. # [11:09] <jfkthame> edmorley: that'll be hugely helpful - thanks
1103. # [11:09] <ekr> so as a measurement point: on my laptop, make -f client.mk (with no changes) on my air takes about 10 minues.
1104. # [11:09] <gaston> i could, just for tracking purpose, but... that wont make mach not use such python features i suppose :)
1105. # [11:10] <ekr> ninja takes about 2 seconds.
1106. # [11:10] <ekr> (for chromium)
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1109. # [11:11] <edmorley> jfkthame: thank you for starring those
1110. # [11:11] <Ms2ger> gaston, depends on how badly it needs the multiprocessing stuff, I guess
1111. # [11:11] <gaston> yeah, i'll file one
1112. # [11:12] <gaston> and another for the reloc overflows issue when linking libxul on ppc
1113. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> Thanks
1114. # [11:12] <gaston> this is getting increasingly impossible without ugly hacks
1115. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> :/
1116. # [11:12] <gaston> even if those are more os problems of missing apis/using ancient binutils/etc..
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1132. # [11:22] <gaston> ah multiprocess.condition comes from pymake usage..
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1139. # [11:28] <gcp> is m-c crashing on shutdown for anyone else?
1140. # [11:28] <ekr> ms2ger: so basically I should track bug 784841?
1141. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> Yep
1142. # [11:29] <ekr> Is there an estimate on how long to the point where things are actually significantly faster?
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1146. # [11:30] <Ms2ger> That'll all depend on reviews
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1148. # [11:32] <Ms2ger> I'm sure gps has a better idea of the timeframe here
1149. # [11:32] <@smaug> tanvi: are you submitting patches during a meeting ;)
1150. # [11:32] <ekr> Thanks. Is there some writeup somewhere of why the decision to write something new rather than using gyp, ninja, etc? I'm not challenging it, I'm just trying to get up to speed
1151. # [11:34] <gaston> ekr: i think that was discussed on -platform
1152. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> And gps's blog has a lot too
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1155. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> There's a difference between what the mozbuild files look like and what backend we'll use; the latter may well be gyp
1156. # [11:35] <tanvi> haha, yes
1157. # [11:35] <tanvi> we had a break. so i had time to submit
1158. # [11:35] <tanvi> smaug^^
1159. # [11:36] <ekr> when you say "the backend may well be gyp" do you mean that I would be able to generate ninja files?
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1227. # [12:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ec71de7ba2d - Graeme McCutcheon - Bug 724513 - Part 2 - nsAppRunner shouldn't assume the deletion of invalid startup cache file succeeded. r=mwu
1228. # [12:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b032c4cc9d7d - Graeme McCutcheon - Bug 724513 - Part 3 - Add telemetry for the invalid disk cache situation. r=taras
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1241. # [12:51] <firebot> Check-in:
1242. # [12:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ac4bb259db3 - Jim Mathies - Bug 750901 - Elm to mc migration work - metro related changes to Windows widget src to support building metro winrt bits (nsWidgetFactory, nsWindowGfx, nsToolkit,
1243. # [12:51] <firebot> WinUtils). Also landing nsIWinMetroUtils.idl. r=bbondy
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1315. # [14:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95187d8e170c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 807223 - Implement JS_ArrayBufferViewBuffer. r=sfink
1316. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38d7dcc623a5 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 807472. Pass WILL_SEND_DID_PAINT when calling PresShell::Paint with PAINT_COMPOSITE. r=mattwoodrow
1317. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/954d162c91b6 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 796452. Add mozpasspointerevents attribute for IFRAMEs in chrome windows. r=mats
1318. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdec21b0103c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 805331. Part 1: Refactor nsDisplayList::GetList
1319. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/519848fd5eaa - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 787831. Keep TrackIDs instead of Track pointers to guard against Tracks being deleted. r=jesup
1320. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c88f84c75d6 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 805331. Only chrome display items that are leaves should be treated as especially opaque. r=mats
1321. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d0cfc4fd49f - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 807212. Call TypedArray methods instead of accessing slots directly. r=sfink
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1328. # [14:11] <rail> edmorley: oops, sorry about that :/
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1332. # [14:13] <@bsmedberg> is there a "standard" way to mark CLOSEME in the whiteboard?
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1339. # [14:18] <jesup> bsmedberg: not that I know of - [closeme] sounds good - but why not just close it?
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1342. # [14:18] <edmorley> bsmedberg: I think I've seen triagers use [CLOSEME YYYY-MM-DD]
1343. # [14:18] <@bsmedberg> jesup: often what triagers do on a semi-interesting bug
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1345. # [14:18] <@bsmedberg> is they ask for more information and mark something like what edmorley said
1346. # [14:19] <@bsmedberg> because it can be demotivating for people to mark a bug INCOMPLETE, even though we don't mean anything "bad" by it
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1349. # [14:20] <tbsaunde> 9
1350. # [14:20] <Optimizer> is the try pushing not working, my console has been on the checking files stage like forever ..
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1358. # [14:23] <jfkthame> Optimizer: it worked fine for me about 20 minutes ago
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1361. # [14:24] <Optimizer> i cannot even stop and try again
1362. # [14:24] <Optimizer> it says do hg recover
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1364. # [14:24] <jfkthame> huh, is that a message about your local tree or the try tree, i wonder?
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1370. # [14:27] <edmorley> bsmedberg: we have a "time since assignee touched" field, what would be good is a "time since need-info-person commented", which would avoid the need to use CLOSEME <date>
1371. # [14:27] * edmorley files bug
1372. # [14:28] <Optimizer> jfkthame: I am trying to push to try, a patch for a bug
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1374. # [14:29] <jfkthame> Optimizer: yeah, understood - but it's not totally clear to me which side of the connection is having a problem, your local end or the server
1375. # [14:30] <jfkthame> is the patch attached to a bug somewhere? if so i could try to push it, see if i get the same failure
1376. # [14:30] <Optimizer> my net is working, if that is what you mean, I am chatting with you :)
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1379. # [14:30] <Optimizer> I just attached it .
1380. # [14:30] <Optimizer> bug 800231
1381. # [14:30] * jfkthame goes to look...
1382. # [14:30] <Optimizer> though I have asked someone else too to push to try
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1384. # [14:31] <Optimizer> race condition going to happen
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1387. # [14:32] <jfkthame> so is someone pushing it? if not, i'll try - what builds/tests are needed?
1388. # [14:33] <Optimizer> I am
1389. # [14:33] <Optimizer> the hg recover was taking time
1390. # [14:33] <Optimizer> not the pushing part
1391. # [14:33] <Optimizer> now it got finished , so am trying again
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1393. # [14:33] <mounir> should b2g builds on try expected to build?
1394. # [14:34] <jfkthame> mounir: afaik, yes
1395. # [14:34] <mounir> damn :)
1396. # [14:34] <jfkthame> i see some pretty recent ones there
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1402. # [14:39] <jfkthame> mounir: hmm, i wonder if that's a real bustage or not - i see the same "fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory" in the log of earlier try jobs that show up as green
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1406. # [14:41] <mounir> jfkthame: it's a real bustage actually
1407. # [14:41] <jfkthame> mounir: ah, i see… the actual bustage is not the "fatal error" that tbpl shows… you really are getting compile errors in nsGlobalWindow.cpp
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1409. # [14:41] <mounir> I'm trying to find out how to rebuild only for b2g now
1410. # [14:42] <jfkthame> mounir: use -p ics_armv7a_gecko
1411. # [14:43] <jfkthame> (i wonder if -p panda also works, for the B2G Panda build?)
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1415. # [14:46] <mounir> jfkthame: it's working, thanks :)
1416. # [14:47] <jfkthame> ah, including panda too - cool
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1429. # [15:05] <firebot> bholley was last seen 20 hours, 1 minute and 36 seconds ago, saying '* bholley has a better understanding of french grammar than english, unfortunately' in #content.
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1433. # [15:07] <ewong> any OSX64 build gurus? I'd like some help understanding this log http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=SeaMonkey/1351862403.1351862570.7167.gz&fulltext=1
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1437. # [15:08] <ewong> and since it isn't breaking with FF.. is there something I'm missing porting?
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1444. # [15:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57eeca4191dd - Ed Morley - Backout 23c9f61a243b & 6ca11f4b470c (bug 805807) for mochitest-1 orange in test_contextmenu.html
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1446. # [15:13] <jfkthame> ewong: looks like you're missing a definition of SK_OVERRIDE, but i don't know where that's supposed to come from
1447. # [15:14] <ewong> will try to search for it..
1448. # [15:15] <jfkthame> ewong: see bug 731384, maybe
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1453. # [15:17] <ewong> jfkthame: hmm thanks.. I'm not understanding why it's failing for us..
1454. # [15:17] <jfkthame> different clang version?
1455. # [15:17] <jfkthame> failed to apply skia patch?
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1457. # [15:18] <ewong> umm possibly a clang issue
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1464. # [15:21] <ewong> hmm using the same clang version as in m-c..
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1471. # [15:25] <ewong> as for applying the skia patch.. I'd thought that once applied within skia/ it'd be 'universal'?
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1473. # [15:26] <bwinton> mconley: Switching to the default theme, and restarting lets me drag from the title bar again.
1474. # [15:27] <mconley> bwinton: sounds like a draggable binding is not getting applied properly. Cool. Thanks.
1475. # [15:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b095fe02009e - Jim Mathies - Bug 750901 - Revert change to nsClipboard and remove ancient crufty commented out code. r=bbondy
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1490. # [15:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4a2be997f539 - Frank Wein - Bug 807938 - Fix nsGnomeVFSProtocolHandler.cpp compile problem (PR_FormatTimeUSEnglish was not declared in this scope), r=ehsan
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1495. # [15:44] <JosiahOne> Where can I download previous builds of Firefox/
1496. # [15:44] <JosiahOne> ?
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1498. # [15:44] <edmorley> JosiahOne: realease, beta, aurora or nightly?
1499. # [15:45] <edmorley> release, even
1500. # [15:45] <JosiahOne> Previous releases. I need Firefox 15, perhaps older versions.
1501. # [15:45] <JosiahOne> I know they have them in FTP. I just don't remember where.
1502. # [15:46] <edmorley> JosiahOne: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
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1505. # [15:46] <JosiahOne> Alright, I got it thanks.
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1531. # [16:05] <@smaug> mounir: ping
1532. # [16:06] <mounir> smaug: pong
1533. # [16:06] <mounir> need me?
1534. # [16:06] <@smaug> mounir: nope. Took 2.5h walk
1535. # [16:07] <@smaug> that was nice
1536. # [16:07] <@smaug> but enough for now :)
1537. # [16:07] <@smaug> mounir: did you have the coremob stuff @dap already
1538. # [16:07] <mounir> smaug: not sure I understand
1539. # [16:07] <mounir> what you mean
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1542. # [16:08] <@smaug> mounir: agenda says "Update on Coremob "
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1544. # [16:09] <mounir> smaug: DAP is just interested to know what's happening in coremob
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1546. # [16:09] <mounir> things is nothing's happening :)
1547. # [16:11] <@smaug> ahaa
1548. # [16:11] <@smaug> surprise
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1550. # [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12ac23e3c313 - Josh Matthews - Bug 807760 - Disable OMTC in b2g builds on Windows. r=cjones
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1567. # [16:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49e7c88df185 - Josh Matthews - Bug 807760 - Comment followup. DONTBUILD
1568. # [16:23] <sfink> philor: https://bitbucket.org/sfink/trychooser/issue/1/philor-might-find-bugs
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1575. # [16:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9c99a2f189c - Benoit Jacob - Bug 784309 - CheckedInt.h Intel C++ compilation issue - r=Ms2ger
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1577. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Huh, I reviewed that?
1578. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Looks like I did
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1585. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> Btw, bjacob, you don't need to set target milestone anymore
1586. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> And bent, there are nice patches in your review queue
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1589. # [16:34] <bjacob> Ms2ger: ah ok
1590. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> graememcc++
1591. # [16:35] <nemo> bz: hey. you're a mac guy... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742760#c9 does that weird behaviour happen to you?
1592. # [16:35] <nemo> bz: is like it starts doing the broken software rendering again, or something
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1595. # [16:37] <firebot> mdas was last seen 1 day, 17 hours, 38 minutes and 58 seconds ago, changing nick to mdas|afk.
1596. # [16:37] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, she's in SF, apparently
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1599. # [16:38] <philor> sfink: the one I found most puzzling so far was the existence of help for talos-ipc, which I've never heard of
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1604. # [16:41] <sfink> philor: hm. Yeah, I wonder if I just totally made that one up when testing something about the configuration. I don't think I intended to make one up, though.
1605. # [16:42] <sfink> if I actually understood the data model (which talos tests are opt/debug only, which are android only, etc.) I'd probably do something that makes more sense
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1607. # [16:42] <philor> talos is opt only, that part's easy
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1613. # [16:44] <sfink> uh, yeah, right
1614. # [16:45] <@ehsan> edmorley: did we ever that graph of the windows linker max vsize numbers?
1615. # [16:45] * @ehsan bets not
1616. # [16:45] <sfink> edmorley: btw, |-p ics_armv7a_gecko| no longer gives you all the b2g builds
1617. # [16:46] <edmorley> ehsan: no, but it is in the logs (and visible in the TBPL tinderboxprint box)
1618. # [16:46] <sfink> I've been updating the /topic in #b2g with whatever I notice
1619. # [16:46] <@ehsan> yeah
1620. # [16:46] <@ehsan> edmorley: we're at 3.4 now :/
1621. # [16:46] <sfink> but there are some heart/eel things coming in that I don't know nuthin about
1622. # [16:46] <edmorley> ehsan: on my list-of-nice-things-to-get-to-sometime I would like to extract the values from all of the nightly logs going back a few months
1623. # [16:46] <sfink> unagi/otoro
1624. # [16:46] <edmorley> ehsan: oh wow
1625. # [16:46] <@ehsan> yep
1626. # [16:47] <@ehsan> robcee: nice, RESOLVED LAZILY
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1628. # [16:47] <robcee> ehsan: I'm going through our uncategorized bugs. You probably noticed. :)
1629. # [16:47] <edmorley> ehsan: some historic numbers in bug 710840
1630. # [16:47] <robcee> I am closing so many ancient bugs
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1632. # [16:48] <@ehsan> robcee: I did :)
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1635. # [16:48] <robcee> sorry about the bug spew, but it's good for the component
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1637. # [16:49] <@ehsan> edmorley: thanks, commented sarcastically on the bug ;)
1638. # [16:49] <@ehsan> robcee: no worries, I wasn't complaining :)
1639. # [16:49] <edmorley> ehsan: thank you :-)
1640. # [16:49] <@ehsan> robcee: you should give me a hand triaging the Editor bugs at some point ;)
1641. # [16:49] <robcee> more of a general broadcast apology
1642. # [16:49] <robcee> ehsan: only if I can bring beer.
1643. # [16:49] <robcee> correction, only if YOU bring me beer
1644. # [16:49] <@ehsan> robcee: you can't, because I will!
1645. # [16:50] <edmorley> ehsan: RESOVLED REPLACEEDITOR ?
1646. # [16:50] <edmorley> Ms2ger: check
1647. # [16:50] <@ehsan> edmorley: no, RESOLVED NOBODYWORKSONTHISSHITANYMORE
1648. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> edmorley, dammit :)
1649. # [16:50] <robcee> RESO OUTOFBEER
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1658. # [16:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/546e2b61da57 - <rmkn85> - Bug 804592 - "CreatePipe from Chromium IPC requires Logon Session, fails otherwise" [r=jones.chris.g]
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1660. # [16:55] <@ehsan> jdm: what kind of an author name is that?! ^
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1662. # [16:55] <jdm> eep
1663. # [16:55] <jdm> that's a qimportbz-generated name
1664. # [16:55] <@ehsan> boo
1665. # [16:56] <@ehsan> jdm: I bet that will break the git mirror
1666. # [16:56] <@ehsan> jdm: actually, it didn't!
1667. # [16:56] <jdm> there goes my crafty plan to keep you from doing more work
1668. # [16:57] <@ehsan> boo
1669. # [16:57] <@ehsan> nice try though
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1671. # [16:57] <@ehsan> try better next time!
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1673. # [16:58] <jdm> there's another patch to land from the same author, so I certainly will
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1675. # [16:59] <jdm> ehsan: given that there's no name attached to the account, would the full email address be better, or the part preceeding the @ and without the <>?
1676. # [17:00] <@ehsan> hmm
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1678. # [17:00] <@ehsan> jdm: I would do foo <foo@bar.com>
1679. # [17:00] <@ehsan> not that it makes much sense
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1682. # [17:00] <@ehsan> but at least it won't be as weird as the previous commit
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1684. # [17:01] <Archaeopteryx> bugzilla <bugzilla@foobar.com> ?
1685. # [17:01] <jdm> argh
1686. # [17:01] <jdm> I missed the first foo when reading your suggestion
1687. # [17:01] <jdm> sorry!
1688. # [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01f5586d2200 - <rmkn85@gmail.com> - Bug 804511 - Use WT_EXECUTEDEFAULT instead of WT_EXECUTEWAITINTHREAD to avoid deadlocks while debugging. r=bent
1689. # [17:03] <@ehsan> jdm: boo again!
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1694. # [17:05] <edmorley> jdm++
1695. # [17:05] <sfink> c'mon, you can do better than that. Try throwing in an invalid utf-8 character or something.
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1697. # [17:06] <@ehsan> sfink: a non plane-1 char would be much better
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1699. # [17:07] <fireb0t> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23c9f61a243b - <> - Bug 804511 - Followup. r=bent
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1701. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> Heh
1702. # [17:08] <sfink> edmorley++
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1704. # [17:11] <@ehsan> edmorley: sneaky
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1707. # [17:11] <edmorley> :-)
1708. # [17:14] <jdm> isn't that going to mess up the merge scripts?
1709. # [17:14] <jdm> wait
1710. # [17:14] <jdm> gaoirg'oijj'oi
1711. # [17:14] <jdm> edmorley++
1712. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Let's just
1713. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> edmorley++
1714. # [17:15] <sfink> edmorley.score += 100
1715. # [17:15] <edmorley> jdm: :-)
1716. # [17:16] <sfink> btw, gaoirg'o is in the phenominative declension, so that should be gaoirg'oickck'oa
1717. # [17:16] <philikon> bz: hg history says you have reviewed changes to nsConsoleService... could you do another small review, or point somebody out who can? thanks!
1718. # [17:17] <@bz> philikon: I can do it, probably
1719. # [17:17] <@ehsan> is edmorley written in js?
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1721. # [17:18] <Fallen> otherwise, no setting properties on a wrapped… human? :)
1722. # [17:18] <philikon> bz: ok thx
1723. # [17:18] <Archaeopteryx> unlikely, his multitask support is pretty good
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1725. # [17:19] <NeilAway> gavin: bug 807848 drew my attention to bug 688223 which changed the type of a pref, and bug 691951 which changed one of the remaining uses, but mxr still shows a couple of outstanding entries
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1727. # [17:20] <NeilAway> gavin: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=toolkit.telemetry.prompted&filter=true
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1732. # [17:22] <@khuey> c:/dev/mozilla-central/js/xpconnect/loader/mozJSComponentLoader.cpp(1019) : erro
1733. # [17:22] <@khuey> r C2664: 'void nsBaseHashtable<KeyClass,DataType,UserDataType>::Put(JSScript *,U
1734. # [17:22] <@khuey> serDataType)' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'JSScript *' to 'JSScript *'
1735. # [17:22] <@khuey> very useful error :-P
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1737. # [17:22] <froydnj> here's a nickel, kid; buy yourself a real compiler
1738. # [17:23] <sfink> khuey: try reinterpret_cast<clang>(msvc)
1739. # [17:23] <@khuey> sfink: hah
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1743. # [17:24] <mcsmurf> cl is the best compiler :]
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1747. # [17:28] <jwir3> is the fact that I can
1748. # [17:28] <jwir3> is the fact that I can't navigate between characters a known issue in the social sidebar?
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1751. # [17:28] <jwir3> I.e. I can't seem to select characters, and SHIFT+left arrow doesn't select anything, nor does CTRL+left arrow move from one word to another
1752. # [17:29] <edmorley> sfink: sorry delayed response re |-p ics_armv7a_gecko| not working any more - thank you for the heads up
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1757. # [17:33] <rillian> is there a bug for nightly crashing on google search result links?
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1760. # [17:34] <Archaeopteryx> jwir3: yes, the mouse gets the cursor symbol, but selecting is disabled (tested on latest beta with the default fb messenger page)
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1766. # [17:36] <@gavin> NeilAway: not sure what you're asking - they should be fixed!
1767. # [17:36] <sfink> edmorley: it works, but it won't give you the pandas. -p ics_armv7a_gecko,panda is better. If I knew what the unagi/otoro thingies were, I might add something about those in too.
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1770. # [17:37] <NeilAway> gavin: I wasn't asking anything, I was just drawing your attention to them
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1774. # [17:38] <@gavin> NeilAway: ah, ok
1775. # [17:38] <@gavin> NeilAway: I think it wasn't noticed because those scripts are only used for mobile debugging, which doesn't have a telemetry prompt?
1776. # [17:38] <@gavin> or at least not one that uses that pref
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1778. # [17:38] <@gavin> hrm, android seems to
1779. # [17:38] <@gavin> maybe the script is just unused
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1784. # [17:41] <gps> gaston: what platform are you on where Python is spewing that error?
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1787. # [17:42] <gps> also, the new build system will allow us to translate our "mozbuild" files into whatever we want. in theory we could build with Ninja
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1789. # [17:42] <jwir3> Archaeopteryx: Do you know if there is a bug for this already?
1790. # [17:42] <rillian> oh good, it's fixed
1791. # [17:44] <Archaeopteryx> jwir3: can't find a bug
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1793. # [17:44] <jwir3> Archaeopteryx: Ok, will file. :)
1794. # [17:45] <jorendorff> WARNING: In JS, Map .size and Set .size are changing from methods to getters (more like Array .length) todayish
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1800. # [17:47] <froydnj> gps: gaston is on openbsd
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1826. # [17:57] <@ehsan> espindola: have you seen this? http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-clang/index.html?path=Linux_x64/
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1835. # [18:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/577a6ac727ae - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 807817 - Dump Marionette logs as well as writing to logfile, r=philikon
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1845. # [18:03] <gaston> gps: will do for sure :)
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1848. # [18:04] <gaston> but i think i already told you that.. just didnt think it was worth a bug
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1858. # [18:08] <@bsmedberg> who can disable bugzilla accounts?
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1860. # [18:08] <gps> bsmedberg: glob
1861. # [18:09] <firebot> Check-in:
1862. # [18:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0574e555e545 - Girish Sharma - Bug 800231 - Intermittent browser_webconsole_bug_782653_CSS_links_in_Style_Editor.js | Test timed out, | Found a Tools:StyleEditor after previous test timed out; r=msucan
1863. # [18:09] <@gavin> bsmedberg: I can
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1900. # [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51dc263099d4 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 805835 - Update virtualenv to fix lib64 path issues; r=glandium
1901. # [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ef4d2e4a07e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 807861 - Ensure state directory is present before running tests; r=rnewman
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1917. # [18:41] <@ehsan> how much do we care about not breaking msvc8 and msvc9 users these days?
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1924. # [18:46] <froydnj> nooo, msvc9
1925. # [18:46] <mbrubeck> ehsan: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites claims it is still supported, though MSVC10 is the "official" version
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1927. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> ehsan, want to deal with WG9s?
1928. # [18:47] <@ehsan> hmm
1929. # [18:48] <@ehsan> well
1930. # [18:48] <@ehsan> vc8 and 9 are holding us back
1931. # [18:48] <@ehsan> which is why I asked "how much" :D
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1933. # [18:48] <@ehsan> hmm
1934. # [18:48] <@ehsan> I wonder what we use on ESR
1935. # [18:48] * @ehsan checks
1936. # [18:49] <edmorley> least we'll be ditching esr10 soon
1937. # [18:49] <@ehsan> yeah
1938. # [18:50] <@ehsan> but we still use msvc8 there
1939. # [18:50] <@ehsan> well
1940. # [18:50] <@ehsan> maybe I'll write a letter to dev.platform after the uplift
1941. # [18:50] <@ehsan> and then sit back and enjoy the fight
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1953. # [18:55] <Optimizer> Is there a way so that a content code could know of an event generated by chrome code, without content touching chrome code ?
1954. # [18:56] <Optimizer> like some notification service that runs throughout ...
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1957. # [18:57] <Optimizer> I basically want to trigger some heavy coding which will be done in a worker, bu tI do not want a worker per content document
1958. # [18:57] <@bz> Optimizer: well, chrome code could tell it, right?
1959. # [18:57] <Optimizer> so was thinking if workers can be shared b/w content documents
1960. # [18:57] <@bz> ok...
1961. # [18:57] <@bz> you can use chrome workers
1962. # [18:57] <@bz> right?
1963. # [18:58] <@bz> (note that there is a spec for shared workers, but we don't implement it yet)
1964. # [18:58] <Optimizer> how will content code trigger it ?
1965. # [18:58] <Optimizer> if I hold some reference, then Firefox will kill the reference after some time ...
1966. # [18:59] <Optimizer> like if I attach an event listener on the content document, the function for which trigger the chrome worker, then will that create a content chrome violation ?
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1973. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> rnewman, do you really still need your own tree?
1974. # [19:06] <Optimizer> Christmas is coming (well soon)
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1989. # [19:13] <espindola> ehsan, I had not
1990. # [19:14] <espindola> something like tooltool I guess?
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1993. # [19:16] <@ehsan> espindola: yeah, exactly
1994. # [19:17] <espindola> cool. Double cool that it is externally visible.
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2005. # [19:23] <Optimizer> so there is no way of bubbling any kind of events up to chrome, or viceversa from content ?
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2016. # [19:30] <rnewman> Ms2ger: yeah, we have bursts of significant activity, and the QA pass is very important
2017. # [19:30] <rnewman> turns out people don't like it when we break Nightly
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2019. # [19:30] <rnewman> related question: why do we want fewer trees, rather than more?
2020. # [19:31] <rnewman> m-c should consist only of merges, and we can't put all commits through m-i, or it'll turn into the shitshow that m-c used to be
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2051. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/415dc90118ab - Ed Morley - Bug 757838 - Make remoteautomation.py set lastTestSeen so Android crashes are output with the test filename; r=jmaher
2052. # [19:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10486f492c02 - Ed Morley - Bug 757838 - Misc remoteautomation.py cleanup; r=jmaher
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2093. # [20:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfd2ad699353 - Randell Jesup - Bug 807929: Make DataChannel refcounted r=mcmanus
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2107. # [20:32] <philor> "Build with |./build.sh -j1| for better messages" -- thanks, build that we were the ones running!
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2120. # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/27db7a7e3e15 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 808110 - No HTTP traffic was being sent for stub installer pings due to too many parameters. r=jimm
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2123. # [20:40] <bent> decoder, ping
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2126. # [20:43] <decoder> bent: pong
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2129. # [20:44] <bent> decoder, hey, your lcov tool results include coverage from multiple threads, correct?
2130. # [20:45] <bent> decoder, but what about child processes?
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2132. # [20:45] <decoder> bent: lcov isnt my tool, this is just gcov+lcov as everyone is using it :)
2133. # [20:45] <decoder> but child processes also generate coverage data
2134. # [20:46] <bent> yeah, sorry, meant "your results from lcov"
2135. # [20:46] <bent> but ok
2136. # [20:46] <bent> child processes are counted too
2137. # [20:46] <bent> that's awesome
2138. # [20:47] <decoder> since gcov is a compile time instrumentation that writes coverage data on exit of the process, childs should be included
2139. # [20:47] <decoder> as long as they dont segfault, or are killed in an uncatchable way
2140. # [20:48] <philor> seth: you need to rebase your try push - you're making sure that your patch works on top of mozilla-central as it was two weeks ago
2141. # [20:48] <bent> ok
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2143. # [20:48] <seth> philor: heh, ok. i got nervous about pulling since last time i did that my build broke =) hopefully this time it won't
2144. # [20:49] <decoder> bent: if you find something that you think is missing, let me know :)
2145. # [20:49] <decoder> the data is far from being perfect atm
2146. # [20:50] <bent> decoder, so far i'm really pleased
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2148. # [20:50] <bent> decoder, what's missing that you know of?
2149. # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/911fd57f1db2 - Peter Van der Beken - Test for bug 798264.
2150. # [20:50] <decoder> bent: make check results were not correct in previous pushes, some coverage from there was missing. i did solve one problem there, but i think there is another one, i think it's some kind of race condition that does not always trigger. but it got better now
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2152. # [20:51] <decoder> bent: also, this is linux only, so all windows/mac only code is missing
2153. # [20:51] <decoder> and it's not running talos tests etc
2154. # [20:51] <decoder> just mochitests, reftest, crashtest, xpcshell
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2156. # [20:51] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: ping
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2158. # [20:51] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: pong
2159. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d1a798296564 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 798264 (Split property tables). r=bz, a=lsblakk.
2160. # [20:52] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: hey, so reading your email now... I'm not sure what exactly you need
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2162. # [20:52] <@ehsan> are you looking for stack patterns?
2163. # [20:52] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: well kinda yes, but across the four processes involved
2164. # [20:52] <NeilAway> Optimizer: all DOM events automatically bubble up to chrome
2165. # [20:52] <Optimizer> NeilAway: even custom made ?
2166. # [20:52] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: hmm, can you give me an example of output which will help you?
2167. # [20:53] <NeilAway> Optimizer: sure
2168. # [20:53] <Optimizer> NeilAway: and for the opposite way ?
2169. # [20:54] <Optimizer> NeilAway: so for now, my content can send an event, which my chrome script can listen up, trigger a chrome worker, get the result. how to send it back ...
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2171. # [20:54] <NeilAway> Optimizer: hmm, I think there's a page on MDN about this, see if I can find it
2172. # [20:55] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: well, looking at https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/hang-reports/2012/11-01/hr-20121101-9a8e51a7-d1e9-4f3c-9503-39d1e2e92196.html, I'm currently wondering whether the "flash2" process is deadlocked somehow because thread 8 may be within LdrCleanupThreadTlsData
2173. # [20:55] <@bsmedberg> although I think that's probably a false trail
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2175. # [20:55] <Optimizer> NeilAway: thanks :)
2176. # [20:55] <NeilAway> Optimizer: ooh, there is!
2177. # [20:55] <NeilAway> Optimizer: it's called "Interaction between privileged and non-privileged pages"
2178. # [20:55] <seth> argh!
2179. # [20:56] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: ok, so let me try to do this for a crash and then you can tell me whether what I send back to you is useful or not
2180. # [20:56] <seth> is there any way to tell mercurial to be less stupid when apply patches?
2181. # [20:56] <@bsmedberg> thanks
2182. # [20:56] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: also, I think maybe jdm might be interested
2183. # [20:56] <@ehsan> I'll forward that email to him as well
2184. # [20:56] <jdm> hmm?
2185. # [20:56] <@ehsan> jdm: check your mail
2186. # [20:56] <seth> it's absurd that all of these patches are failing when there are no conflicting changes, just because something got added somewhere else in the file and the line number changed
2187. # [20:56] <jdm> shan't!
2188. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34137da41cbb - Wes Johnston - Bug 790454 - Set touch target in touchstart. r=smaug
2189. # [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f8be1085fdf - Jim Chen - Bug 807994 - Get rid of IME code raw type usage to prevent javac 1.7 compile errors. r=cpeterson
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2197. # [21:00] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: is there a good way to find the thread which has actually hanged?
2198. # [21:00] <@ehsan> (by not looking at all of them)
2199. # [21:01] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: no, all we really know is that we didn't receive a response to an IPC message in 45 seconds
2200. # [21:01] <@ehsan> ok
2201. # [21:01] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: we don't actually know whether any of the non-browser processes are deadlocked or actually doing work
2202. # [21:01] <@ehsan> right
2203. # [21:01] <@ehsan> ok let me look some more
2204. # [21:01] <@bsmedberg> although the metadata has "CpuUsage" data which may or may not be accurate or helpful
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2206. # [21:02] <@bsmedberg> We haven't really proof-tested that metadata against anything useful
2207. # [21:02] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I'd trust the stack more :)
2208. # [21:02] <Optimizer> NeilAway: thanks, this will do :)
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2210. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06b998c1100d - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 664695 Improve signature of nsIConsoleService::GetMessageArray r=bsmedberg
2211. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37018544448d - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 797988 Focus outlines for compact menulists on Linux r=enn
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2223. # [21:12] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: another question
2224. # [21:12] <@ehsan> is the crashreporter stuff in https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/hang-reports/2012/11-01/hr-20121101-34c6457a-3c70-4975-985b-f588154cd30a.html normal?
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2226. # [21:13] <@ehsan> (browser, thread 0)
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2228. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c65dde5a84b1 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 791268: Make dylib symbol binding retry, let bluetooth firmware shutdown still work even on error; r=echou
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2233. # [21:16] <dholbert> glob|away, ping
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2235. # [21:17] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: yeah, that looks normal
2236. # [21:17] <dholbert> glob|away, I just hit that "tweaking a bug can sometimes reset the flags" thing, FWIW -- see the activity after comment 6 on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=807011#c6
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2238. # [21:17] <@bsmedberg> main event loop, necko request triggers a plugin stream, which is sync
2239. # [21:17] <dholbert> (mconnor, thanks for restoring the flag/priority)
2240. # [21:18] <mconnor> dholbert: np :)
2241. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: in this case, the plugin process received the message (:AnswerPBrowserStreamConstructor) and then Flash got stuck
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2247. # [21:22] <tanvi> smaug: pong
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2251. # [21:23] <tanvi> nevermind, looks like he's not here anymore
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2256. # [21:27] <RyanVM> Callek: ping
2257. # [21:28] <Callek> RyanVM: pong?
2258. # [21:28] <RyanVM> Callek: how should I be starring these Panda/Unagi reds on inbound?
2259. # [21:28] <Callek> RyanVM: as legit failures? [I'm not sure]
2260. # [21:29] <RyanVM> they look pretty intermittent to me
2261. # [21:29] <Callek> RyanVM: they are not actually run/used on real devices yet, and are built on the same hardware that does Linux ;-)
2262. # [21:29] <RyanVM> 3 so far today
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2265. # [21:29] <Callek> CC: catlee who might know for you
2266. # [21:29] <Callek> RyanVM: since catlee was the one primarily setting them up for us
2267. # [21:30] <catlee> RyanVM: they're failing again?
2268. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0e9fba17816 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 701613 - Add Win7 as supported OS in updater.exe.manifest. r= rstrong
2269. # [21:30] <RyanVM> catlee: on occasion
2270. # [21:30] <catlee> boo
2271. # [21:30] <RyanVM> catlee: there's a few on inbound if you want to take a look
2272. # [21:31] <catlee> yeah, it's the same bug
2273. # [21:32] <catlee> some race condition in gaia's profile generation or something
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2275. # [21:32] <RyanVM> do you have a bug # handy?
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2279. # [21:36] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: so, is that a useful pattern for you?
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2289. # [21:39] <catlee> RyanVM: we're using 800364
2290. # [21:40] <RyanVM> catlee: thx
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2297. # [21:45] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: not by itself, no. Although knowing that the IPC message was delivered is at least a useful boolean that I can normally glean from the stack.
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2299. # [21:45] <@ehsan> hmm
2300. # [21:45] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: so on top of that we have the flash obfuscated frames
2301. # [21:45] <Ms2ger> dholbert, hey, I did that too!
2302. # [21:46] <dholbert> Ms2ger, oops!
2303. # [21:46] <@ehsan> so I'm not sure if we can easily say _what_ flash got stuck on
2304. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> bug 808036 :)
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2306. # [21:46] <dholbert> Ms2ger, yup, you beat me to it
2307. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> Doesn't happen often :)
2308. # [21:46] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: yeah, it *looks* like F34033 is a generic "Flash sandbox waiting for IPC traffic" signature
2309. # [21:46] <@bsmedberg> but that's mostly a guess
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2312. # [21:47] <@bsmedberg> so I guess we don't have enough information to be useful for this particular report
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2314. # [21:47] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: oh, so the goal is not to classify every report, is it?
2315. # [21:47] <@bsmedberg> well... my goal is to classify the ones we can figure out
2316. # [21:47] <@ehsan> ok
2317. # [21:47] <@ehsan> makes sense
2318. # [21:47] <@bsmedberg> and then ask Adobe some guided questions about the other ones
2319. # [21:48] <@bsmedberg> so for this one I might end up asking them whether the sandbox process received that message
2320. # [21:48] <@bz> Should I worry about Mn red on try on my pushes?
2321. # [21:48] <@ehsan> pl
2322. # [21:48] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: here's one which I think is pretty clear-cut, if it helps!
2323. # [21:48] <@ehsan> *ok
2324. # [21:48] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/hang-reports/2012/11-01/hr-20121101-4eccb835-9d09-47d4-97ef-fb1ec68f1d88.html
2325. # [21:48] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: thanks! let me take a look
2326. # [21:49] <dholbert> Ms2ger, stole the review. r+
2327. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
2328. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/696c1af9a6a8 - Peter Van der Beken - Backout test for bug 798264, it needs more changes for branch. a=backout.
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2336. # [21:53] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: so let's see if I get this one right
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2338. # [21:53] <@ehsan> the flash2 process is probably replying to either the broker or plugin-container using SendMessage
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2341. # [21:53] <@ehsan> and in the mean time, firefox is running some js which tries to call a function on the plugin object
2342. # [21:53] <@ehsan> and we ask the plugin whether it implements that function
2343. # [21:54] <@ehsan> and we deadlock
2344. # [21:54] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: does that sound accurate?
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2347. # [21:54] <@bsmedberg> About right, I think. I'm not sure it's SendMessage, because I don't know exactly how NdrpSendReceive works
2348. # [21:54] <jwalden> bjacob: no worries about forgetting, I just happened to see it still open when skimming the mfbt open-bugs list
2349. # [21:55] <@bsmedberg> but yeah, the basic idea is that something under CAudioClient::CreateRemoteStream sent a message but couldn't get a response and stuck
2350. # [21:55] <bjacob> jwalden: thanks for the heads up
2351. # [21:55] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I think that for now I can classify "all hangs with NtAlpcSendWaitReceivePort near the top of the flash2 stack" as this
2352. # [21:56] <@bsmedberg> to get a rough volume/priority
2353. # [21:56] <Ms2ger> So....
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2355. # [21:56] <Ms2ger> We've got a perl library to parse http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/milestone.txt ?
2356. # [21:56] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: ok, I see
2357. # [21:56] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: well now I sort of know the rules of this game!
2358. # [21:56] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: yeah, although I thought we switched to python for parsing that mostly ;-)
2359. # [21:57] <RyanVM> bz: they're hidden on most of the "real" branches, so I'm going to say no
2360. # [21:57] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: it would be interesting to know how much of a percentage each classified item is
2361. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> yes
2362. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> Once I get these few added I'll rerun the nightly report
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2364. # [21:57] <@ehsan> ok
2365. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> and also remove the win64 things, since they don't matter and are confusing
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2368. # [21:58] <@ehsan> why?
2369. # [21:58] <@ehsan> oh
2370. # [21:58] <@ehsan> 64-bit builds?
2371. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg-bbl> yeah
2372. # [21:58] <@ehsan> ok yeah
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2374. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg-bbl> npswf64_blahblah, we don't have hooking
2375. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg-bbl> and should really just --disable-plugins for those builds
2376. # [21:58] <@ehsan> bsmedberg-bbl: do you want me to write that patch? ;)
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2380. # [22:04] <RyanVM> NeilAway: ping
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2385. # [22:06] <@bsmedberg-bbl> ehsan: no, that's ok
2386. # [22:07] <philor> bz: you should maybe worry about what else has landed in the meantime, since that red means you didn't rebase
2387. # [22:07] <philor> RyanVM: were hidden, not are hidden
2388. # [22:07] <RyanVM> philor: I don't see them for Windows builds, but I also haven't manually refreshed inbound in the last 30min or so
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2391. # [22:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b404d3977390 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 06b998c1100d (bug 664695) due to mochitest-other orange.
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2393. # [22:11] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, I think Win is still permaorange, but red usually means rebase past, um, Tuesday or so
2394. # [22:11] <RyanVM> so technically they are still hidden on Windows :P
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2398. # [22:13] <philor> nah, visible on Try because we like pain, and not running elsewhere
2399. # [22:14] <philor> eh, only a 10 day old parent, nothing landed in the last 10 days did it?
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2407. # [22:22] <RyanVM> wow, Windows builds are so much faster when you decide to not bother with PGO
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2409. # [22:23] <Optimizer> I finally implemented a basic "extractBackgroundColorFromImage" function : https://gist.github.com/4004318
2410. # [22:24] * jhopkins is now known as jhopkins|afk
2411. # [22:24] <Optimizer> if someone has improvements (performance or algo), please comment/fork/etc
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2417. # [22:27] <seth> Optimizer: this seems to be not at all "extractBackgroundColor" and much more "extractDominantColor" (as the description suggests)
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2420. # [22:27] <Optimizer> seth: well, dominant color in some terms is that only
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2422. # [22:28] <Optimizer> seth: also, mozilla has its inbuilt dominant color finder, and its approach is somewhat different
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2424. # [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bf38352bbc6 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 807631 - Receiving multi-part SMS doesn't work. r=philikon.
2425. # [22:29] <seth> Optimizer: what's the context in which this code will be used?
2426. # [22:29] <Optimizer> content
2427. # [22:29] <Optimizer> and change the argument to function call, with the proper image element
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2430. # [22:29] <Optimizer> and similarly change what the color is assigned to
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2433. # [22:31] <seth> Optimizer: really what i mean is, what's the bigger problem that this is helping to solve?
2434. # [22:31] <NeilAway> RyanVM: sorry, was watching tv
2435. # [22:32] <Optimizer> seth: It can solve world peace, global warming, and what not ..
2436. # [22:32] <RyanVM> NeilAway: It's OK, I backed you out :)
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2438. # [22:33] <seth> Optimizer: well that's a worthy goal =)
2439. # [22:33] <Optimizer> seth: but in a short run, it would add a feature to my extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/custom-image-backgrounds/) to have predictive image background
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2443. # [22:35] <seth> Optimizer: ah ok. should be fine for that!
2444. # [22:35] <seth> Optimizer: two random ideas that might also be interesting:
2445. # [22:35] * adrian|away is now known as adrian
2446. # [22:36] <seth> Optimizer: 1) use a contrasting color to the dominant color, so that the default background is the one that pops the most
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2449. # [22:36] <seth> Optimizer: 2) only consider the edge pixels when guessing the background color, to increase the chances that you're really getting what a human would identify as the background
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2451. # [22:37] <Optimizer> seth: I know I am doing it in a hacky way, but other approaches would require too much computation and complexity
2452. # [22:38] <Optimizer> that might not even be true that the border pixels are background, and how much width of the border to consider ..
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2454. # [22:38] <seth> Optimizer: of course it might not be true, it's just a heuristic. your existing approach is too, though
2455. # [22:38] <Mossop> What do we use instead of nsnull these days?
2456. # [22:39] <seth> Optimizer: just ideas anyway =)
2457. # [22:39] <dholbert> Mossop, nullptr
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2460. # [22:39] <Optimizer> seth: anyways, thanks for giving it a try
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2464. # [22:41] <NeilAway> RyanVM: test passes locally of course :s
2465. # [22:42] <RyanVM> NeilAway: of course
2466. # [22:42] <jorendorff> philor: the orange Mn here https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=5f64583d3c11 Should I worry about that?
2467. # [22:42] <RyanVM> NeilAway: though so far all the failures have been on OSX
2468. # [22:43] <philor> jorendorff: might ask jgriffin, but I think that's exactly the reason marionette isn't running on Windows anywhere but try
2469. # [22:43] <jorendorff> philor: i'm going to take that as a great big no
2470. # [22:43] <jorendorff> thank you as always
2471. # [22:43] <philor> np
2472. # [22:43] <jgriffin> jorendorff: Mn on windows is known broken
2473. # [22:43] <NeilAway> RyanVM: which I don't have...
2474. # [22:43] <jorendorff> hooray! i love it when things are known broken
2475. # [22:44] <jgriffin> :))
2476. # [22:44] * philor should do the jerk thing and file a bug with that in the summary, that everyone who pushes to try with -u all will be able to find and star
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2478. # [22:45] <philor> now, if I wasn't a jerk, I'd file a bug about "need a way to exclude jobs from tryserver's 'all'," a year or two ago
2479. # [22:46] <jgriffin> philor: bug 795513
2480. # [22:46] <jgriffin> I'll add [orange] to it
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2482. # [22:47] <philor> you'll be soooooorry ;)
2483. # [22:48] <jgriffin> heh
2484. # [22:48] <philor> people don't rebase, it'll be getting tbplbot spam a month after it's fixed
2485. # [22:48] <jgriffin> ugh
2486. # [22:48] <jduell> jdm: ping
2487. # [22:49] <jdm> jduell: pong
2488. # [22:49] <jduell> jdm: hey, so I just noticed that TabParent now provides both appId and InBrowser. Per-tab PB == per TabParent, right?
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2490. # [22:49] <jdm> jduell: correct
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2493. # [22:50] <jduell> jdm: does the TabParent stay PB or not-PB the whole time, or can a tab switch in and out of PB?
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2497. # [22:51] <jdm> jduell: well, that's up to the docshell tree under the tabparent
2498. # [22:51] <jdm> however, it's also a bit conceptual
2499. # [22:51] <jdm> since nothing actually exercises that code at all
2500. # [22:52] <jduell> jdm: well, either way, so long as we can keep the parent TabParent up to date (via IPDL messages if needed) as to whether it's in PB mode or not
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2502. # [22:52] <jduell> we can get rid of all the channel LoadContext crap.
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2504. # [22:52] <jduell> The whole stinking mess.
2505. # [22:52] <jdm> I like the sound of that.
2506. # [22:53] <jduell> jdm: that would be so lovely...
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2508. # [22:53] <Ms2ger> And a pony
2509. # [22:53] <jduell> and a rainbow with a pot 'o gold.
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2513. # [22:54] <RyanVM> NeilAway: fails on Windows too. No Linux test runs yet
2514. # [22:55] <jduell> jdm: I've got to verify with jlebar that the inBrowser stuff works and will stay working. But even if we need to pass loadcontext for inBrowser, if there were some way to ask the TabParent for PB we could get rid of the PB override goop
2515. # [22:55] <jlebar> jduell: Just got out of my interview.
2516. # [22:55] <jlebar> jduell: what can I do you for?
2517. # [22:55] <jlebar> Oh, inBrowser. heh.
2518. # [22:55] <jlebar> jduell: There will be "in browser or app" very shortly. Once that patch lands, "in browser" will mean "in browser not app".
2519. # [22:56] <jduell> jlebar: ah, so this isn't the same as nsILoadContext.isInBrowser?
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2521. # [22:56] <jduell> what exactly does "in browser not app" mean anyway?
2522. # [22:56] <jlebar> jduell: nsILoadContext.isInBrowser will also mean in browser not app.
2523. # [22:56] <jduell> when the B2G browser is an app...
2524. # [22:57] <jlebar> jduell: Right now, <iframe mozbrowser> is a "browser tab", and <iframe mozbrowser mozapp> is an "app".
2525. # [22:57] <jlebar> jduell: But the fact that there's "mozbrowser" in the mozapp iframe means that sometimes we'd call that app iframe also a browser iframe.
2526. # [22:57] <jlebar> which is super-confusing
2527. # [22:57] <jduell> jlebar: we'd rather use TabParent, since IPDL won't lie to us, while child can pass whatever LC it feels like cooking up
2528. # [22:57] <jlebar> jduell: Let me look up the interface change to TabParent.
2529. # [22:58] <jduell> jlebar: yeah, points to whoever made the naming call there :)
2530. # [22:58] <jlebar> <-- points for him
2531. # [22:58] <jduell> jlebar++
2532. # [22:58] <jlebar> jduell: https://bug802366.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=675740
2533. # [22:58] <jduell> (sarcastic points still count for karma!)
2534. # [22:58] <jlebar> jduell: Search for the TabParent.h changes.
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2536. # [22:59] <jlebar> jduell: IsBrowserElement() will mean <mozbrowser>, GetOwnOrContainingApp() != null will mean <mozapp>, and IsBrowserOrApp() will mean mozbrowser or mozapp.
2537. # [22:59] <jduell> jlebar: so we create a new TabParent (i.e. IPDL PBrowser) for a <mozbrowser> tag?
2538. # [22:59] <jlebar> jduell: If it's OOP
2539. # [22:59] <jduell> I guess we create the process
2540. # [22:59] <jduell> right
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2542. # [23:00] <jlebar> jduell: There are similar changes to the docshell, if you prefer to use that.
2543. # [23:00] <jduell> jlebar: OK, this is good to know. May clean up a bunch of necko code...
2544. # [23:00] <jlebar> jduell: Hopefully the Necko code doesn't need to change. I didn't change the nsILoadContext interface because there was a lot of code there.
2545. # [23:00] <jduell> jlebar: no, docshell lives only in child, so we've been schlepping these values per channel. Having them in TabParent should make life easier and more seure
2546. # [23:00] <jduell> secure
2547. # [23:00] <jlebar> Ah
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2550. # [23:01] <jlebar> I see. Yes, this should be better.
2551. # [23:02] <jlebar> jduell: I just need to figure out a somewhat complicated test, and then I think I can land.
2552. # [23:02] <jlebar> jduell: Hopefully a day or two more.
2553. # [23:02] <jlebar> jduell: Oh, except B2G work week.
2554. # [23:02] <jduell> jlebar: so the interface is there already, but not working?
2555. # [23:02] <jlebar> hm. Yeah. We'll get this eventually. :)
2556. # [23:02] <jlebar> jduell: The patches there work basically fine afaict, except for one edge case related to layout.
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2559. # [23:03] <jduell> jlebar: what's the bug? I was just looking at TabParent.h--the InBrowser function is already there
2560. # [23:03] <jduell> or maybe you backed it out.
2561. # [23:03] <jlebar> jduell: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802366
2562. # [23:03] * philor|away is now known as philor
2563. # [23:03] <jlebar> jduell: The bug is that I think InBrowser means "browser or app" on TP currently. and that if you have a browser inside an app, it has app-id 0, but shouldn't.
2564. # [23:03] <jlebar> jduell: But I also backed it out. :)
2565. # [23:04] <jduell> jlebar: ok.
2566. # [23:04] <jduell> thanks
2567. # [23:04] <jlebar> jduell: Sure thing. Trying to get it in asap, but work week and so on means it may be a bit.
2568. # [23:04] <jduell> jlebar: I'll just write my patch on top of the API and mark the dependency. No worries.
2569. # [23:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63defe9bc7d5 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 778993 - Separate runtime's gcMallocBytes from compartment's gcMallocBytes (r=gwagner,till)
2570. # [23:05] <jlebar> jduell: Sgtm. FYI, I may need to change the TabParent API slightly to fix this layout bug. But it shouldn't be a big deal.
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2576. # [23:09] <bent> jlebar, how's that going btw?
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2578. # [23:10] <jlebar> bent: The patches there work basically fine afaict, except for one edge case related to layout.
2579. # [23:10] <jlebar> bent: And the trick is writing a test for that behavior, because it involves nested apps and so on
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2582. # [23:11] <bent> make jonas write it!
2583. # [23:11] <bent> it took me like a week to write mine
2584. # [23:11] <bent> all his fault
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2598. # [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/56d3db021482 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 806138 - Disable permaorange test_voicemail_statuschanged.py, DONTBUILD(NPOTB)
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2602. # [23:18] <@ehsan> vladan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769048
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2604. # [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8711e947ce9 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 612736: add crashtests for this WORKSFORME bug. r=longsonr
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2606. # [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d1337d2db17 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 784061: add crashtest for this WORKSFORME bug. r=longsonr
2607. # [23:20] <vladan> ehsan: thanks
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2610. # [23:23] <@ehsan> jimm-bbias: how urgent is this?
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2618. # [23:28] <WeirdAl> Hey guys - trying to write some chrome.manifest code to expose SAXXMLReader to content... is this possible?
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2620. # [23:29] <WeirdAl> -- need to be able to set the contentHandler et al
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2638. # [23:42] <jorendorff> Dear everyone: The .size of Map and Set objects is now a property, not a method. See bug 807001.
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2640. # [23:43] <gps> jorendorff: you just broke a lot of my patches :/
2641. # [23:43] <gps> thanks for telling me
2642. # [23:43] <jorendorff> gps: I'm sorry!
2643. # [23:43] <WeirdAl> jorendorff: FF20?
2644. # [23:44] <gps> jorendorff: will I ever be able to test for Set and Map inclusion with "in"?
2645. # [23:44] <jwalden> gps: no
2646. # [23:44] <jorendorff> gps: Alas, no.
2647. # [23:44] <jorendorff> WeirdAl: What?
2648. # [23:44] <gps> so .has is it then?
2649. # [23:44] <WeirdAl> what version does that take effect in? :)
2650. # [23:44] <jorendorff> WeirdAl: I think the next train departs for FF19.
2651. # [23:44] <jorendorff> So, FF19.
2652. # [23:45] <WeirdAl> ok
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2659. # [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0d7c7806a90 - Terrence Cole - Bug 808181: Do not allow implicit conversion of Return<T>; r=jorendorff
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2663. # [23:49] <WeirdAl> damn :| I might not get anywhere until I get this in a debugger.
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2673. # [23:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f55a7f84de7a - Terrence Cole - Backed out changeset f0d7c7806a90
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