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# Session Start: Mon Nov 05 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92cdd367285d - Matt Woodrow - Bug 807563 - Update the overflow areas of all preserve-3d children when the transform changes. r=roc
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# [00:15] <markh> njn: good morning! Can you tell me what the "/active" after the URLs in about:memory signify?
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# [00:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2937fd8e35a1 - aceman - Bug 808379 - fix Assertion failure: isEmpty(), at ../../dist/include/mozilla/LinkedList.h:258 causing Thunderbird crash since landing of fix to bug 803688. r=jlebar
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# [00:19] <mjrosenb> gaston: did you file the bug where IM landing hosed ppc64?
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# [00:22] <njn> markh: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsWindowMemoryReporter.h#46
# [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1760425256b - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 808441 - Enable dom/base mochitests for B2G, a=test-only
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# [00:23] <Callek> mjrosenb: do we care about ppc?
# [00:23] <mjrosenb> Callek: well, I do, since my desktop is ppc64
# [00:23] <markh> njn: thanks! I was concerned it meant the window's docShell.isActive = true, but that seems to not be the case.
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# [00:23] <Callek> haha ok fair :-P
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# [00:24] <njn> markh: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsWindowMemoryReporter.cpp#113 has the full story
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# [00:44] <RyanVM> Gaston: nice. Is that work something the TenFourFox guys will be able to use?
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# [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72462368ac3a - Alex Vincent - Bug 436728 - Support SAX's namespace-prefixes feature, r=smaug
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# [05:26] <shovenose> Hello
# [05:26] <KWierso|Home> ohai
# [05:27] <shovenose> Hi, can I ask a question about compiling FIrefox from source?
# [05:27] <KWierso|Home> don't ask if you can ask, just ask :)
# [05:27] <Callek> shovenose: sure, but before you do, have you also seen https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build
# [05:28] <shovenose> OK. I'm running Windows 8, dual Xeon 2.66GHz CPU (4 cores total) 6GB RAM
# [05:28] <shovenose> How long should it take? I followed those instructions
# [05:28] <shovenose> it's been going for a long time.
# [05:28] <KWierso|Home> Windows builds for me are usually in the 30 minutes to two hours range
# [05:29] <shovenose> OK, what is it most dependent on? thanks!
# [05:29] <shovenose> I'm not sure if it's relevant but I used "ac_add_options --enable-debug --disable-webgl"
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# [05:29] <KWierso|Home> hard drive speed, total RAM, CPU
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# [05:29] <KWierso|Home> not necessarily in that order
# [05:29] <glob> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Mozilla_build_FAQ#Making_builds_faster
# [05:29] <shovenose> OK. It's giving me numbers, I'm at about 2200 how many are left?
# [05:30] <Callek> and debug builds will take longer to compile than non-debug
# [05:30] <shovenose> oh :(
# [05:30] <Callek> in general the difference should be barely noticeable on the whole
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# [05:30] <shovenose> Oh OK.
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# [05:31] <Callek> On my Intel i7 laptop using -j10 it takes me ~1.5 hours for a "from scratch" build, after a cold boot
# [05:31] <shovenose> OK is it alphabetical?
# [05:31] <Callek> win7, not WDE and not SSD
# [05:31] <Callek> fwiw
# [05:31] <shovenose> Well your computer is much better. Should I be doing this on my 8GB Core i5 SSD laptop?
# [05:32] <Callek> CPU speed, pymake vs GNUMake, HD throughput, RAM will all affect compile time
# [05:32] <shovenose> OK
# [05:32] <shovenose> thanks :)
# [05:32] <Callek> I can still build on computers that are worse, but it all depends on how much you want to wait
# [05:32] <Callek> :-)
# [05:32] <shovenose> lol
# [05:32] <KWierso|Home> http://xkcd.com/303/
# [05:32] <KWierso|Home> relevant ^
# [05:33] <shovenose> I am not patient. This is a 2006 Mac Pro running Windows :) stupid thing seemed good back then... these days not so much
# [05:33] <shovenose> LOL
# [05:33] <shovenose> xkcd is great
# [05:33] <glob> fwiw a mac build on my 2.3ghz i7 powerbook takes about 25 mins
# [05:33] <Callek> and your combo with an SSD might be better than my i7, it all depends on your specific settings, and what the largest wait is on. [for me, my largest delay is in HD throughput, iirc]
# [05:33] <Callek> glob: of course, I bet thats non-universal :-P
# [05:33] <mjrosenb> for me, the largest delay is linking
# [05:33] <shovenose> I think you mean MacBook Pro
# [05:33] <shovenose> lol
# [05:34] <mjrosenb> I should probably figure out how to switch to gold
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# [05:34] <glob> shovenose, maybe... lol :)
# [05:34] <shovenose> But my system seems so underutilized it's frustrating
# [05:34] <shovenose> 20% disk throughput, 50% cpu, 50% ram
# [05:35] <Callek> shovenose: compile time is all relative, :-) when I started, with a decent laptop at the time, it took me 4 hours to compile Mozilla Suite, and 2.2 hours to compile [current at the time] perl on winXP
# [05:35] <Callek> shovenose: I suspect your using GNUMake and not pymake, and without -jN
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# [05:35] <shovenose> I'll try this on my extra laptop... 64GB SSD, 4GB RAM, Core i3 ... 4 hours is a lot!
# [05:35] <shovenose> I'm using the default stuff :)
# [05:35] <Callek> see that link above you were pointed out (not by me and it should speed up your future runs ;-)
# [05:36] <shovenose> I will try that advice on my laptop
# [05:36] <shovenose> booting it up now
# [05:38] <shovenose> Ugh, have to install Visual Stupido first
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# [05:39] <shovenose> Do I have to wait for Visual Studio to finish installing or can I install MozillaBuild meanwhile? thanks for all the help
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# [05:39] <KWierso|Home> You can do it at the same time
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# [05:40] <KWierso|Home> it just won't find visual studio if you start one of those scripts
# [05:40] <shovenose> OK
# [05:40] <KWierso|Home> (before it finishes installing)
# [05:41] <shovenose> If I close everything else on my desktop (Firefox with a few tabs, Skype, etc.) will it go faster?
# [05:41] <KWierso|Home> only if those other programs are impacting disk, cpu or memory performance
# [05:41] <shovenose> k
# [05:42] <mjrosenb> and really unless they are actively hitting memory, or you are low on memory, they wont matter.
# [05:43] <shovenose> Closed them anyway. Anything to make this faster!!
# [05:43] <shovenose> Tempted to run this on my quad-core dedicated server with Datashack. lol
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# [05:44] <mjrosenb> shovenose: can't be as bad as building inside of virtualbox.
# [05:44] <shovenose> haha that would indeed suck
# [05:45] <mjrosenb> yeah, I am not a fan of tracking bugs down on windows.
# [05:45] <KWierso|Home> My linux VM builds faster than the host Windows OS :)
# [05:45] <shovenose> that's scary
# [05:45] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: this was building in windows in vbox
# [05:45] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: linux is the host.
# [05:45] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: those builds are nice and snappy
# [05:45] <KWierso|Home> send my condolences to your family
# [05:46] <shovenose> lol
# [05:46] <shovenose> Waiting on Visual Studio to finish. :(
# [05:46] <shovenose> where will my .exe of firefox be when it's done?
# [05:46] <KWierso|Home> dist/bin/firefox.exe, most likely
# [05:47] <KWierso|Home> it's not an installer, though
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# [05:47] <KWierso|Home> so it's more than one file
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# [05:47] <Jesse> i missed the context, so "send my condolences to your family" better end up on http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/top
# [05:47] <shovenose> how do I install it then?
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# [05:48] <KWierso|Home> you just run it
# [05:48] <shovenose> Oh OK
# [05:48] <shovenose> I'm sorry to have so many dumb questions. I am never going to ask the same ones twice :)
# [05:50] <mjrosenb> Jesse: it would be a shame if one of your fuzzers repeatedly upvoted random quotes ;-)
# [05:50] <KWierso|Home> "random"
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# [05:52] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: it was implied by the wink
# [05:54] <Jesse> i could have it upvote random quotes from http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/search?query=fuzz
# [05:55] <shovenose> the compiling is starting to look different. maybe it'll be done son
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# [06:07] <shovenose> still going, jeez
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# [06:19] <shovenose> if a simple Firefox takes this long I feel sorry for whoever compiled Photshop
# [06:20] <mjrosenb> firefox is hardly simple.
# [06:21] <mjrosenb> also, usually commercial projects like photoshop have gigantic multi-machine build farms
# [06:21] <KWierso|Home> we have tryserver! :D
# [06:21] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: yes, but you need commit access for that
# [06:21] <KWierso|Home> push in the morning, check tomorrow :)
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# [06:22] <mjrosenb> also, I've yt to figure out how to get a debug-like build from try, with useful paths in the source tree.
# [06:22] <@bz_weekend> shovenose: It's a virtual machine, graphics library or four, media engine, two compilers, PDF generator.
# [06:22] <@bz_weekend> shovenose: Also, sometimes it does something with HTML and CSS.
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# [06:23] <@bz_weekend> shovenose: on the other hand, the last time I timed a clobber build it took about 10 minutes. On a laptop.
# [06:23] <shovenose> clobber?
# [06:23] <markh> shovenose: you are on windows, right? make sure you are using pymake with -jn - where n == number of cores (or number_of_cores * 1.5 is even better IME)
# [06:23] <@bz_weekend> shovenose: from scratch, as opposed to just rebuilding changes from a small change I made.
# [06:23] <@bz_weekend> But I wasn't on Windows, which is key...
# [06:23] <@bz_weekend> And this is a good laptop. ;)
# [06:24] <shovenose> lol
# [06:24] <shovenose> what is a tryserver? is it mozilla's build server?
# [06:25] <mjrosenb> shovenose: tbpl.mozilla.org
# [06:25] <mjrosenb> well, /mumblevariable=try
# [06:25] <mjrosenb> but it is the same infrastructure.
# [06:26] <mjrosenb> bz_weekend: we have at least 3 compilers.
# [06:26] <shovenose> One momet, I'll be back
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# [06:26] <mjrosenb> bz_weekend: if you want to count YARR's jit.
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# [06:27] <shovenose> OK I'm back
# [06:27] <shovenose> I'm just going to let this hting site here
# [06:27] <shovenose> my desktop can run all night :)
# [06:27] <KWierso|Home> read a book, go see a movie, etc :P
# [06:27] <shovenose> nah
# [06:27] <shovenose> that's why I own more than one computer. :P
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# [06:29] <@bz_weekend> mjrosenb: I forgot the yarr jit, yes.
# [06:29] <@bz_weekend> but yeah, a web browser is like the opposite of "do one thing"...
# [06:30] <shovenose> What do you mean?
# [06:30] <KWierso|Home> it's not just a simple document viewer
# [06:30] <mjrosenb> and even 'build firefox' is nearly all of 'build seamonkey', isn't it? (note, I've never acutally built seamonkey)
# [06:31] <mjrosenb> shovenose: there is a decent chance that firefox is more complex than the compiler that you are building it with.
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# [06:32] <shovenose> It's not so simple, that was the wrong thing to say. But it's less complicated than most thing
# [06:32] <shovenose> s
# [06:33] <glob> hrm
# [06:33] <shovenose> I love PHP... no compiling required :)
# [06:33] <glob> not sure if trolling
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# [06:34] <glob> shovenose, if you're changing the php *compiler*, you'd require explicit recompilation
# [06:35] <shovenose> lol
# [06:35] <glob> unless you're using php v1. that was written in perl
# [06:35] <glob> therefore, perl > all
# [06:36] <shovenose> php5.3.17
# [06:36] <shovenose> lol
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# [06:37] <markh> glob: I thought you said "Perth" there... ;)
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# [06:37] <glob> markh, ouch!
# [06:38] <markh> glob: I was born in Adelaide, so I can't talk ;)
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# [06:38] <glob> markh, say. no. more.
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# [06:46] <shovenose> If I wanted to compile FIrefox in 64-bit like Waterfox do I need to use a 64-bit computer and 64-bit compiling? thanks
# [06:47] <KWierso|Home> yeah, you'd use the start-msvb11-x64.bat script to set everything up
# [06:47] <shovenose> OK.
# [06:48] <shovenose> I want to remove add-on functionality from Firefox. is that difficult?
# [06:48] <markh> shovenose: and come changes to mozconfig - see http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/How_To_Build_Windows_x64_Build for all the gory details
# [06:48] <shovenose> awesome I'll look at that
# [06:49] <shovenose> What would I need to do to remove the add on fuctionality?
# [06:49] <shovenose> because it will make Firefox blazing fast
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# [06:49] <KWierso|Home> lolwat
# [06:50] * glob blinks
# [06:51] <shovenose> It is weird I know
# [06:52] <@dolske> uhh
# [06:52] * @dolske just ignores and goes back to useful things.
# [06:53] <shovenose> OK :)
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# [06:59] <jcranmer|away> shovenose: removing add-on functionality won't make FF much faster
# [06:59] <shovenose> oh ok :(
# [07:00] <shovenose> I thought it will, because add ons have to be loaded
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# [07:00] <jcranmer|away> that amounts to, IIRC, a directory scan
# [07:00] <jcranmer|away> and if you have no addons, that's all that you'd lose
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# [07:01] <jcranmer|away> and you can't remove add-on hooks in our code, because then you'd break half the core product
# [07:02] <shovenose> Oh, alright.
# [07:03] <jcranmer|away> besides, 64-bit Windows firefox is actually slower than 32-bit, last I checked :-P
# [07:03] <shovenose> That's weird :(
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# [07:03] <shovenose> I just want to make a copy of Firefox that beats Chrome on the peacekeeper.futuremark.com
# [07:03] <jcranmer|away> not really
# [07:04] <jcranmer|away> the 32-bit JIT is better optimized than the 64-bit JIT, and 64-bit pointer sizes really hurt memory performance
# [07:04] <shovenose> OK, you think that I can make Firefox kick chrome ass?
# [07:05] <shovenose> I was thinking that getting rid of add ons would help, and making it 64 bit.
# [07:05] <shovenose> but if you have any better suggestions I will hear them :)
# [07:05] <jcranmer|away> stop caring about performance on benchmarks?
# [07:05] <shovenose> but people are leaving firefox
# [07:05] <shovenose> because they think it is slow
# [07:05] <mattwoodrow> shovenose: Have you profiled the benchmark to see why it's actually slow?
# [07:06] <jcranmer|away> perceived performance ≠ actual performance
# [07:06] <shovenose> one moment, I'll run it right now
# [07:06] <shovenose> I know Firefox is the fastest and best but most people will look at the benchmark and say it sucks
# [07:06] <shovenose> I do not want chrome to take over
# [07:06] <shovenose> it is not a good browser
# [07:07] <mjrosenb> jcranmer|away: I don't think 64 bit is really lagging behind 32 bit these days.
# [07:08] <jcranmer|away> mjrosenb: the last time I saw someone compare firefox to waterfox on $FAVORITE_BENCHMARK, firefox came out ahead :-P
# [07:08] <jcranmer|away> that benchmark looks like a microbenchmark too
# [07:09] <shovenose> No, my friend has run it on his big 32GB ram computer with Core i7 octo-core. Waterfox did much much better and Chrome did even more better
# [07:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71d1523adf8d - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 792351. Make GetRootFrameOffset handle the case where aContainerFrame is itself a reference frame. r=mattwoodrow
# [07:10] <jcranmer|away> most people don't have 32GB RAM and octo-core i7s
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# [07:10] <jcranmer|away> try it on a 2GB dual-core sometime and observer how different perf results can be
# [07:11] <mjrosenb> and extra memory and cores likely won't help with benchmarks.
# [07:11] <jcranmer|away> probably have fat caches that means 64-bit fat pointers don't hurt as much
# [07:12] <jcranmer|away> benchmarks ought to have big "YMMV" signs on them
# [07:12] <jcranmer|away> and I really need to go now
# [07:13] <shovenose> Bye :)
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# [07:17] <shovenose> I'm reading the article on how to make builds faster, it says if there is less than 4GB to speed up linking. I have 8GB on this laptop, with SSD. should I still do ti?
# [07:18] <mjrosenb> "the" article?
# [07:18] <shovenose> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Mozilla_build_FAQ#Making_builds_faster
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# [07:20] <shovenose> should I still do the linking thing, under the Windows category
# [07:20] <shovenose> if I have 8GB RAM?
# [07:21] <shovenose> and how do I set it to use pymake on windows?
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# [07:21] <markh> shovenose: did you follow that pymake link?
# [07:22] <shovenose> yes
# [07:22] <markh> so which part of the pymake docs aren't clear?
# [07:24] <shovenose> well to build "./mach build" is what i type, where do I define to use pymake?
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# [07:25] <Unfocused> if you use mach on windows, it automatically uses pymake
# [07:25] <markh> right - mach uses pymake by default on windows
# [07:25] <shovenose> Oh, OK.
# [07:25] <shovenose> Also then, my .mozconfig goes into the mozilla-central folder, right?
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# [07:28] <shovenose> "Mozilla tools directory: C:\mozilla-build\"
# [07:28] <shovenose> Visual C++ 11 directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\VC\
# [07:28] <shovenose> Visual C++ 11 Express directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio
# [07:28] <shovenose> 11.0\VC\
# [07:28] <shovenose> Windows SDK directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\
# [07:28] <shovenose> Windows SDK version: 8.0
# [07:28] <shovenose> Using VC 2012 built-in SDK
# [07:28] <shovenose> The system cannot find the path specified.
# [07:28] <shovenose> Mozilla build environment: MSVC version 11.
# [07:28] <shovenose> Michel@LENOVO-V570 ~
# [07:28] <shovenose> $ hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
# [07:28] <shovenose> destination directory: mozilla-central
# [07:28] <shovenose> requesting all changes
# [07:28] <shovenose> adding changesets
# [07:28] <shovenose> adding manifests
# [07:28] <shovenose> adding file changes
# [07:28] <shovenose> added 112282 changesets with 632342 changes to 109173 files (+7 heads)
# [07:28] <shovenose> updating to branch default
# [07:28] <shovenose> 68749 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved
# [07:28] <shovenose> Michel@LENOVO-V570 ~
# [07:28] <shovenose> $ cd mozilla-central
# [07:28] <shovenose> Michel@LENOVO-V570 ~/mozilla-central
# [07:28] <shovenose> $ ./mach build
# [07:28] <glob> shovenose, please stop
# [07:29] <shovenose> 0.50 C:/mozilla-build/msys/bin/sh.exe -c c:/Users/Michel/mozilla-central/build/p
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# [07:31] <shovenose> sorry, it was not on purpose
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# [07:31] <shovenose> Sorry about that
# [07:31] * @dolske already /msg'd about pastebin
# [07:31] <shovenose> http://pastebin.com/Vs2xuCVT
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# [07:32] <shovenose> could that error occur if DirectX SDK is missing?
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# [07:35] <markh> that error probably means you haven't used one of the (or the correct) "start-msvc*.bat" files. After using the correct .bat file, entering "cl<enter>" should show the msvc compiler banner
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# [07:37] <shovenose> ok you can see output of it at bottom of http://pastebin.com/4acAvmiW
# [07:38] <markh> that's now different and line 96 explicitly says what the problem is
# [07:39] <shovenose> heh genious
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# [07:39] <shovenose> still waiting for that monstrosity to download
# [07:39] <shovenose> I have a good internet, why is it so slow. stupid microsoft download servers
# [07:40] <shovenose> will the browser still work if I disable gl?
# [07:40] <KWierso|Home> Yes, you just won't be able to use webgl :P
# [07:40] <shovenose> is that important?
# [07:41] <KWierso|Home> not really, unless you need to use it on a regular basis
# [07:41] <shovenose> will the 4 sites i visit still work? hotmail.com get-simple.info webhostingtalk.com bing.com
# [07:41] <shovenose> lol
# [07:41] <mcpherrin> shovenose: Peacekeeper seems to test it, which seemed important to you.
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# [07:41] <shovenose> lol
# [07:42] <shovenose> will it compile faster if i disable webgl?
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# [07:42] <Callek> dietrich: don't assign blocker bug to me :-P
# [07:42] <Callek> well you *can* but I won't do it until at least Q3 2013
# [07:42] <Callek> fair warning :-P
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# [07:44] <@dolske> b2g blocker? you may want to reevaluate your priorities.
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# [07:48] * Set by edmorley on Tue Oct 30 16:44:42
# [07:48] <Callek> dolske: if he assigns a non-releng b2g blocker to me, I sure won't be the one who should work on it
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# [07:48] <Callek> dietrich: more a "I'm not sure I have the proper knowledge to effectively work on a bug that you'd reassign from someone who can grab your jacket to me, to have any sense of prioritizing it above my other relevant work"
# [07:49] <Callek> I'm not saying the bug won't get done, or isn't important just a *I* won't be working on it
# [07:49] * Callek admits if anyone above him in manager chain says to work on any bug, I'd do so, but still :-P
# [07:49] <Callek> as in, if I was told, "Work in Printing code" tomorrow I'd be working on printing code
# [07:50] <Callek> but otherwise, "umm, not my thing"
# [07:51] <Callek> p.s. glob++
# [07:51] <Callek> again for his implementation of need-info?
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# [07:51] <@dolske> yes, I'm sure dietrich is going around assigning printing bugs to releng. what a jerk!
# [07:52] <shovenose> http://quikimg.com/images/6WPa2.png
# [07:52] <shovenose> this is nice :)
# [07:52] <shovenose> j6 helped
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# [07:55] <Unfocused> is end of 2013 really that unrealistic? pretty sure my time is blocked out with current projects at least for the next year
# [07:56] <Callek> Unfocused: I'm currently betting on the mayan's prophecy to finish all my projects for me
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# [07:56] <Unfocused> you might want a backup plan
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# [07:57] <shovenose> sorry, where did you say the finished one would be? my desktop just finished what it was doing from hours ago... where is firefox? thanks :)
# [07:57] <KWierso|Home> mozilla-central/dist/bin, most likely
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# [07:58] <Unfocused> er, it should be in a directory starting with "obj-"
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# [07:58] <Callek> Unfocused: sure, my backup plan is for The Doctor to show up, and take me to the future, where I have already written this code, and then I can just transfer the bugs+code over
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# [07:58] <Unfocused> heh
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# [08:00] <shovenose> wow! it works!
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# [08:03] <shovenose> thank you so much to all who assisted me!
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# [08:31] <Yoric> khuey|away: Thanks for the tip on bug 808428, this is exactly what I needed.
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# [08:37] <Yoric> Question to anyone with imagination for naming conventions.
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# [08:38] <KWierso|Home> nSIFooBar2FooBar
# [08:38] <Yoric> In OS.File, we use prefixes for platform-specific features (e.g. "winFoo", "unixFoo" or "macFoo" for methods implemented only on Windows/Unix/Mac).
# [08:39] <Yoric> Now, I have a method implemented on an awkward set of platforms (Windows, MacOS 10.5.5+, some BSDs but not all, not Linux/Android).
# [08:39] <Yoric> Any idea for a nice prefix?
# [08:39] <Yoric> I was pondering "someosFoo" or "maybeFoo".
# [08:40] <Yoric> (with "someos" being the actual prefix)
# [08:41] <mjrosenb> wow
# [08:41] <mjrosenb> I am cloning the webkit repo
# [08:41] <mjrosenb> it looks like i'm going to pull in 6 gigs of data for this operation
# [08:41] <KWierso|Home> your sacrifice is well noted
# [08:42] <mjrosenb> Receiving objects: 25% (493595/1968831), 1.43 GiB | 1.79 MiB/s
# [08:42] <mjrosenb> the size of this seems much larger than our repo.
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# [08:48] <mjrosenb> .hg from mozilla central is only 1.1 GB
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# [08:51] <Yoric> Perhaps "dontcountonmeFoo" might be a good choice.
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# [08:51] <Yoric> KWierso|Home: Thanks for the suggestion, btw :)
# [08:52] <KWierso|Home> :)
# [08:52] <Fallen> gps: bug 783727, how did you fix the complaint for MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET? I'm trying to build now and I get this with the python that comes with osx 10.8
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# [09:02] <gaston> mjrosenb: 792085, ppc64 landed in 746112
# [09:02] <gaston> Ryan: re tenfourfox, i hope/suppose so!
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# [09:03] <gaston> mjrosenb: and to be more precise, ppc32 was broken, ppc64 was supposed to work (minus the missing #ifdef maze) - so now both should work. you can test the patch on ppc64, that'll be helpful :)
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# [09:04] <mjrosenb> gaston: is this linux/ppc, or osx/ppc?
# [09:04] <gaston> openbsd/ppc
# [09:04] <mjrosenb> oh,that is a setup i haven't tried to run
# [09:04] <gaston> but at that stage, the fix should work for any ppc
# [09:05] <mjrosenb> I remember osx/ppc did not build the last time I tried, but I didn't try very hard
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# [09:05] <mjrosenb> gentoo has been pretty good about getting firefox to build damn near anywhere
# [09:05] <gaston> beta builds ootb, aurora and central are broken by ionmonkey. hopefully that'll get commited before next uplift :)
# [09:06] <mjrosenb> indeed!
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# [09:07] <glandium> mjrosenb: s/gentoo/debian/
# [09:08] <mjrosenb> glandium: I am not sure gentoo steals any of debian's patches
# [09:09] <mjrosenb> although I would imagine debian is religious about upstreaming their fixes
# [09:09] <glandium> mjrosenb: i'm pretty sure they do/did
# [09:11] <mjrosenb> glandium: good to know if true.
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# [09:12] <gaston> mjrosenb: if you test it on ppc64, dont forget to comment on the bug
# [09:13] <mjrosenb> gaston: sure. my linux setup is basically totally hosed, but osx should work for now.
# [09:14] <glandium> mountain lion is slower to start everything than lion was
# [09:14] <glandium> and it doesn't keep my terminal window size after a restart. sigh
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# [09:19] <KWierso|Home> glandium: but it works great for allowing me to bootcamp into windows 8 :)
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# [09:27] <glandium> great, the xcode upgrade removed /usr/bin/clang
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# [09:30] <mjrosenb> glandium: did it just rename it to gcc?
# [09:30] <Fallen> glandium: say it aint so, I'm just upgrading :-(
# [09:30] <mjrosenb> or change its location?
# [09:30] <glandium> mjrosenb, Fallen: it just requires you to install command line tools *again*
# [09:31] <Fallen> ah ok
# [09:31] <glandium> that is, i had them installed, and now they aren't anymore
# [09:31] <glandium> what a great ux
# [09:31] <mjrosenb> glandium: fun.
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# [09:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0947e291578a - Olli Pettay - Bug 805749, validate the view parameter of initUIEvent, r=jst
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# [10:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/50cd5f7339f6 - Olli Pettay - Bug 808389 - nsIProtocolHandler uses same values for different flags, r=bz, sr=biesi
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# [10:29] <glandium> oh crap, vmware fusion 4.1 doesn't work on mountain lion
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# [10:31] <glandium> http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/2765/exceptional-apps :(
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# [10:35] <mjrosenb> glandium: virtualbox?
# [10:35] <glandium> mjrosenb: does virtualbox run osx in vms?
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# [10:36] <glandium> (cause the only reason i have vmware fusion 4.1.0 (and not 4.1.3, which actually works with mountain lion) is because of the bug that allowed it
# [10:36] <mjrosenb> oh, no clue
# [10:36] <mjrosenb> I've never tried to virtualize ossix.
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# [10:41] <Unfocused> i run a copy of osx server in a VM for this very reason... which, considering it's only for when i work on theme stuff that affects pre-10.7 style buttons etc, is a rather expensive way to go
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# [11:09] <Fallen> glandium: as you also have a mac, did you by chance run into the $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET mismatch: now "10.6" but "10.8" during configure bug and know a workaround?
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# [11:17] <jfkthame> Fallen: from something i ran across, i think this may be a python issue - are you using the OS python? macports? …?
# [11:17] <Fallen> jfkthame: os python
# [11:17] <Fallen> osx 10.8 and xcode 2.5.1
# [11:18] <jfkthame> hmm… i'm still on 10.7, so not comparable
# [11:18] <jfkthame> b
# [11:18] <jfkthame> but i wonder if using an older python via macports might help
# [11:18] <Fallen> it now looks it works when I do --enable-macos-target=10.8 but this doesn't sound right, it should "just work" ;-)
# [11:19] <jfkthame> yeah, it should
# [11:19] <jfkthame> for your own builds, i guess that's the simplest workaround, but you wouldn't be able to share them with people on older OS versions
# [11:20] <Fallen> thats ok for now, I don't share these builds anyway and can still use try if I need to
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# [11:20] <Fallen> thanks :)
# [11:20] <jfkthame> see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659881 for some discussion of what sounds like an earlier iteration of the same(?) problem
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# [11:29] <mjrosenb> Fallen: 2.5.1 was quite old...
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# [11:34] <Fallen> mjrosenb: xcode 2.5.1, not python 2.5.1
# [11:35] <jfkthame> sure you don't mean xcode 4.5.1? mjrosenb is right, xcode 2.5.1 would be ancient
# [11:36] <Fallen> aah yes, sorry about that, my bad :)
# [11:37] <Fallen> I meant 4.5.1 of course
# [11:38] <jfkthame> i suspected that was a typo :)
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# [11:51] <edmorley> !seen aceman
# [11:51] <firebot> aceman was last seen 10 hours, 43 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'so those fake servers generate some msgs' in #maildev.
# [11:52] <@smaug> edmorley: looking
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# [12:01] <Fallen> can I subscribe for email notifications on bustages on tbpl?
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# [12:03] <mjrosenb> Fallen: that sounds like a good way to completely flood your inbox
# [12:04] <Fallen> mjrosenb: I want this for a specific tree, not everything :)
# [12:04] <Fallen> the alternative is to check tbpl every once in a while, so I'd prefer email even if its a few more
# [12:05] <edmorley> Fallen: there is no way to do that at present
# [12:05] <edmorley> what kind of bustages are you interested in?
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# [12:07] <Fallen> edmorley: anything that makes the build red, even better would be anything that makes the build red if a file in a certain directory was modified, but the former would be sufficient for me
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# [12:07] <edmorley> what tree, your builds vs other people's?
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# [12:08] <edmorley> an {IRC, ...} notification bot is on my wishlist fwiw
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# [12:19] <glob|away> edmorley, i'd be more than happy to write an irc bot for you
# [12:20] <edmorley> :-)
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# [12:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a519a3f18f39 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 808027 - Change favicons handling to be Bitmap-based (r=mfinkle)
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# [13:42] <glandium> Fallen: haven't tried building from scratch yet
# [13:42] <glandium> anyone with Xcode 4.5 on Lion? (not Mountain Lion)
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# [13:55] <glandium> espindola: ping
# [13:55] <espindola> glandium, pong
# [13:56] <glandium> espindola: on osx builders, do we use Xcode's ld, or clang's?
# [13:56] <espindola> glandium, clang has no ld
# [13:57] <glandium> so the answer is the former. any idea what specific version we are using?
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# [13:59] <espindola> glandium, xcode 4.1
# [13:59] <glandium> that's what i was afraid
# [13:59] <espindola> there is a linker being develop to use llvm infrastructure (lld)
# [13:59] <espindola> but we are not using it
# [13:59] <glandium> turns out xcode before 4.5 does something wrong with weak linkage
# [14:00] <glandium> and i'm not sure what because nm -mg output is the same
# [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4222b4c6a3e9 - Ed Morley - Bug 808417 - remotereftest.py should print the actual exception if one occurred runTests(); r=jmaher
# [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60c78a559a84 - Ed Morley - Bug 808419 - remoteautomation.py's waitForFinish() should print to the log when maxTime is reached; r=jmaher
# [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/267a4eb4b236 - Ed Morley - Bug 808417 - Make runTests() exception reporting consistent across test harnesses; r=jmaher
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# [14:02] <Yoric> Question to anyone with imagination for naming conventions.
# [14:02] <Yoric> In OS.File, we use prefixes for platform-specific features (e.g. "winFoo", "unixFoo" or "macFoo" for methods implemented only on Windows/Unix/Mac).
# [14:02] <Yoric> Now, I have a method implemented on an awkward set of platforms (Windows, MacOS 10.5.5+, some BSDs but not all, not Linux/Android).
# [14:02] <Yoric> Any idea for a nice prefix?
# [14:02] <Yoric> I was pondering "someos" or "maybe", but neither is clearly convincing.
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# [14:04] <till> Yoric: ugh, that's not pretty. Have you considered aliasing the method for all platforms it is supported on?
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# [14:05] <Yoric> Well, it could certainly have the same name for all platforms, but this is also weird, because it would be the only non-prefix method that needs to be subject to feature detection.
# [14:05] <Yoric> Or did you mean having |winFoo|, |macFoo| and possibly |bsdFoo|?
# [14:06] <till> Yoric: yes, that's what I mean
# [14:06] <Yoric> Yes, I have considered it.
# [14:06] <Yoric> If I do not find a nice prefix, this is what I will do.
# [14:07] <till> I grant you: that's not pretty either, but it seems better than "someos".
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# [14:07] <Yoric> I know, that's why I come here for inspiration :)
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# [14:07] <till> "maybe" might work, too, but then that raises the question why that's not the prefix for all methods that aren't guaranteed to be there :)
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# [14:09] <till> I doubt that there's a good general naming scheme to be had here, but I might just not have enough imagination ;)
# [14:10] <jimm> in c++ we would probably use namespacing to isolate different platforms and platform versions.
# [14:11] <jimm> rather than embbedding info in the method name, which is kinds yucky.
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# [14:12] <Yoric> So far, with OS.File, we have worked with feature detection comparable to what happens on the web.
# [14:12] <Yoric> And so far, it has worked nicely.
# [14:12] <Yoric> I will probably default to |winFoo| and |macFoo|.
# [14:12] <jimm> oh is this content facing?
# [14:12] <jimm> or just chrome?
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# [14:15] <Yoric> Just chrome.
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# [14:27] <jimm> you could wrap them in their own objects - osfile.windowsSpecific.version8Specific.someMethod()
# [14:27] <jimm> so there's no question about what is being called, and where it's expected to work
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# [14:28] <Yoric> Well, there is OS.File.Win and OS.File.Unix already.
# [14:29] <Yoric> But now, if we have stuff that works only on some versions of Mac, which are themselves versions of Unix, well, this starts being a little annoying for users.
# [14:29] <jimm> why do you need "winFoo", "unixFoo" or "macFoo" then?
# [14:29] <sheppy> When we have OS.File.Cabinet and OS.File.HeapOfStuffOnTheFloor, we can talk.
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# [14:30] <jimm> ah, so the unix/mac thing is confusing for sure. not sure what to do there, but for windows it should be easy to isolate platform/version specific calls.
# [14:30] <sheppy> Hey, that heap on the floor is (really) where I keep all my stuff.
# [14:30] <sheppy> I am a slob.
# [14:31] <Yoric> jimm: Well, OS.File.Win and OS.File.Unix are low-level stuff (directly the system API, directly with file descriptors), while OS.File offers a cross-platform API (with feature detection for some features that are not portable).
# [14:31] <Yoric> sheppy: Well, I am sure that we can fit OS.File.Win.Cabinet or something such :)
# [14:32] <sheppy> Heh
# [14:32] <Yoric> Ms2ger: By the way, I set bent as reviewer for my patch on bug 808428, but I do not know if this is the right reviewer.
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# [14:32] <Ms2ger> Yoric, yeah, bent owns workers
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# [14:35] <espindola> glandium, we might be able to upgrade if we copy the 10.6 sdk over...
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# [15:13] <NeilAway> sheppy: how well did I do updating nsIConsoleService ?
# [15:14] <sheppy> Let me look :)
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# [15:16] <sheppy> Looks pretty good. I may do a couple of little tweaks, but need to think on it. This may be the first time an old function was replaced with a new one by the same name. :)
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# [15:19] <sheppy> Nah, this is a fun challenge. :)
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# [15:37] <edmorley> mounir: RyanVM is RyanVM
# [15:37] <edmorley> mounir: anything specific?
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# [15:38] <mounir> edmorley: he is marking in-testsuite- bugs that are lacking tests
# [15:38] <mounir> i wanted to make sure he knew in-testsuite- means "no need for automatic tests"
# [15:39] <edmorley> he should know, might have just been an oversight, I'd email
# [15:39] <jhorak> NeilAway: about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452232#c53 would you like me to replace ACString by AUTF8String and also nsACString by nsAUTF8String?
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# [15:43] <NeilAway> jhorak: you don't change nsACString, just ACString
# [15:44] <jhorak> NeilAway: thanks, I thought so, but not completely sure.
# [15:44] <NeilAway> jhorak: both ACString and AUTF8String become nsACString, it's just that XPConnect handles them differently
# [15:45] <jhorak> NeilAway: Ah, I see.
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# [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6e071059b71c - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 807847 - Noise entries are erroneously entered into the misscache. r=dcamp a=akeybl
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# [16:09] <nemo> hm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Underestimation 15 million. that's a lot
# [16:10] <nemo> I wonder if that's actually having a significant impact on stats these days
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# [16:10] <mjrosenb> nemo: HEATHEN
# [16:10] <mjrosenb> :-p
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# [16:13] <nemo> heh
# [16:13] <nemo> mjrosenb: I whitelisted mozilla.org if that makes you feel better :)
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# [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d36471ab3ca - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 807222 part 5. Fix getOwnPropertyNames to work correctly on Window. r=jst
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# [16:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54ab88e2fa34 - Victor Porof - Bug 807222 part 4. Fix timeout in debugger propertyview test due to larger number of properties on the global. r=past
# [16:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b9b3b2b8971 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 807222 part 3. Make sure we enter the right compartment before we try to define interface constants on a constructor. r=bholley
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# [16:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8eab1766c2c - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 807222 part 2. Condition MozTimeManager classinfo so we don't stick it on the global in builds that don't ship the xpt for it. r=jlebar
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# [16:24] <mjrosenb> bz: morning.
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# [16:25] <@bz> mjrosenb: good morning
# [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/358c9830d166 - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
# [16:28] <mjrosenb> out of curiosity, did you commit them in the order 4 3 1 2, or is that just how firebot grabbed them from the logs?
# [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f8cee47bcd3 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
# [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0947e291578a - Olli Pettay - Bug 805749, validate the view parameter of initUIEvent, r=jst
# [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50cd5f7339f6 - Olli Pettay - Bug 808389 - nsIProtocolHandler uses same values for different flags, r=bz, sr=biesi
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# [16:28] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, long-standing bug in firebot
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# [16:37] <Yoric> khuey: Do I understand correctly from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808428#c9 that you want me to move that patch to, say, OS.File?
# [16:37] <Yoric> (I mean an OS.File-related bug)
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# [16:50] <@khuey> Yoric: I'm saying that if you actually want a useful review you should ask somebody who knows the OS.File API
# [16:50] <Yoric> Ok.
# [16:50] <@khuey> Yoric: usually we don't put much effort into reviewing tests though
# [16:50] <Yoric> Which means me or froydnj.
# [16:50] <@khuey> we just land them
# [16:50] <@khuey> yeah
# [16:51] <Yoric> Ok, thanks.
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# [16:52] <Yoric> Pushing to Try.
# [16:52] <Yoric> It feels good to push to try a patch that I believe should succeed :)
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# [17:03] <@smaug> hmm, bugs about error pages go where
# [17:03] <@smaug> toolkit?
# [17:03] <@smaug> firefox?
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# [17:16] <bjacob> sewardj: is it you, who had recently had the problem that android_log_print is not reliable (e.g. stops printing anything after a large number of calls) ?
# [17:17] <sewardj> bjacob: no, was not me. AFAICS it works ok.
# [17:17] <bjacob> sewardj: OK
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# [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cc2de645efd - Jan de Mooij - Bug 808519 part 1 - Rename IonFrame_JS to IonFrame_OptimizedJS. r=dvander
# [17:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a13c51926cd - Jan de Mooij - Bug 808519 part 2 - Rename MaybeScriptFromCalleeToken and call it in GetTopIonJSScript. r=dvander
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# [17:37] <philor> bz: looks like you've got android bustage (or just android no-ionmonkey bustage, which would be even more fun)
# [17:38] <@bz> philor: erm. Looking
# [17:38] <philor> noion+armv6, so probably not
# [17:38] <@bz> philor: for real?
# [17:38] <@bz> philor: I hate b2g
# [17:38] <@bz> philor: let me check something...
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# [17:39] <philor> ah, I should have guessed, immediately after a mention of window global
# [17:40] <fox2mike> ted: ping
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# [17:40] <@bz> Ah, and the try run did not do android
# [17:40] * @bz cries
# [17:40] <@bz> OK
# [17:41] <@bz> So enumerating window fails
# [17:41] <@bz> on android
# [17:41] <@bz> and only on android
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# [17:41] <@bz> The ifdefs I used are NOT set on android, I believe
# [17:41] <nemo> Would I be able to install B2G on my brand new Cortex A15 based Chromebook? If so, is there a build out there for it? Just looking to play around.
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# [17:44] <@khuey> nemo: probably not without a bunch of work
# [17:44] <nemo> was just curious if anyone had tried it
# [17:44] <nemo> oh well. Debian it is :)
# [17:44] <@bz> hmp
# [17:44] <@bz> philor: ok, I guess I'll back out again. :(
# [17:44] <jmaher|afk> bjacob: ping
# [17:44] <@bz> philor: and then I get to play with android try, I guess
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# [17:44] <@bz> philor: sorry. :(
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# [17:45] <@bz> It's gotta be something dumb
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# [17:48] <lduros> is there a document providing an overview of how FF source uses Make/Autoconf? It is still somewhat obscure to me how everything comes into play.
# [17:48] * @bz wonders how he can do this sanely
# [17:48] <@bz> What can I print to the log that will show up on tinderbox?
# [17:48] <@bz> More precisely
# [17:49] <@bz> What can I printf in an android build to make sure it shows up in a tinderbox log?
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# [17:50] <jwalden> bz: given the android ifdefs in mfbt/Assertions.h, I suspect you need to use something not-printf, maybe
# [17:51] <@bz> jwalden: mmm
# [17:51] <Enn> mconley: hi
# [17:51] <@bz> jwalden: well, dump() works, right?
# [17:51] <jwalden> Think Different (tm)
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# [17:51] <@bz> jwalden: Since that's how mochitests work....
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# [17:51] <jwalden> bz: dunno
# [17:51] <jwalden> one would hope...
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# [17:51] <mconley> Enn: oh, sorry, unping - got an answer. Thanks though. :)
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# [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/004a0714ba52 - Boris Zbarsky - Back out rev 6d36471ab3ca (part 5 of bug 807222) because now Android is shipping busted stuff on the global.
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# [17:53] <Ms2ger> lduros, gps's blog may be your best bet, both for the current setup and what we're moving to
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# [17:53] <lduros> Ms2ger: the new "setup" will still use this old version of autoconf?
# [17:54] <Ms2ger> Most probably yes
# [17:54] <@bz> philor: ping
# [17:54] <lduros> Ms2ger: ok, thanks :-)
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# [17:58] <jwalden> bz: why isn't some sort of API review or whatever catching platform-specific additions of stuff to the global object?
# [17:58] <@bz> jwalden: hmm?
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# [17:58] <Ms2ger> jwalden, you must be new here
# [17:58] <@bz> jwalden: what maeks you think there's no review?
# [17:58] <@bz> jwalden: Some of these additions totally had review....
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# [17:59] <jwalden> bz: I didn't question that; I questioned why said reviews were not waving the bloody shirt over it
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# [17:59] <@bz> jwalden: the good news is that once I manage to land this %$^$%^% patch the tree will go orange if people add it wrong
# [17:59] <@bz> jwalden: well, because b2g _does_ have APIs on the global that we're not shipping elsewhere
# [17:59] <@bz> jwalden: that's just a fact of life at the moment
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# [18:03] <lsblakk> Bas: ping
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# [18:03] <Bas> lsblakk: Just send you a message :)
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# [18:03] <Bas> lsblakk: No call details in the appointment :)
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> *snet
# [18:03] <lsblakk> ah - i am in ReleaseCoordination room
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> *sent
# [18:03] <lsblakk> Bas: ^
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# [18:22] <shovenose> Hello there. I was here yesterday, and have succesffully compiled firefox
# [18:22] <shovenose> but it crashes :(
# [18:23] <jwir3> shovenose: What platform?
# [18:23] <shovenose> I am using Windows
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# [18:23] <shovenose> Hold on I'm going to open Chatzilla on a different computer
# [18:23] <jwir3> shovenose: Are you able to intercept the crash with msvc's debugger?
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# [18:25] <shovenose> OK I'm on a different computer for chat now so I can close Firefox on my laptop
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# [18:25] <shovenose> anyway, what was the question? thanks
# [18:25] <jwir3> shovenose: Are you able to intercept the crash with msvc's debugger?
# [18:25] <shovenose> Where do I check that?
# [18:26] <jwir3> shovenose: So, when it crashes, it should bring up a dialog. One of the options is something like "debug this"
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# [18:26] <jwir3> (Or, more accurately phrased than what I said)
# [18:26] <shovenose> it says Nightly has stopped working
# [18:27] <jwir3> what version of msvc are you using?
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# [18:27] <shovenose> I compiled with start-msvc11
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# [18:28] <jwir3> shovenose: Does it crash immediately after starting, or do you have a chance to do something first?
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# [18:29] <shovenose> It checks the add ons for compatbility and then loads the firefox nightly first run page halfway or so. then it says nightly has stoped working and I can't use it
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# [18:30] <bjacob> jmaher: pong; also replied to emailk
# [18:30] <jwir3> shovenose: I'm sorry, I don't know that much about debugging on windows. I would try the suggestions here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_Mozilla_on_Windows_FAQ
# [18:31] <jwir3> shovenose: If you can get a stack trace, we'd be able to help you a lot better. This might be something in your .mozconfig that you need to enable or disable for certain platforms.
# [18:31] <shovenose> Thanks I will look. But Im supposed to run obj-blahblahblah/dist/bin/firefox.exe right?
# [18:31] <jwir3> shovenose: yes
# [18:31] <shovenose> OK. what is a stack trace?
# [18:31] <jwir3> shovenose: A stack trace is a list of where the code was executing when it failed.
# [18:32] <jwir3> shovenose: It will look something like this:
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# [18:33] <jwir3> shovenose: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1915911
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# [18:34] <jmaher> hese are the failures I see in the webgl mochitests: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/1915912
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# [18:34] <shovenose> where do I find the stack trace on my computer?
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# [18:34] <jwir3> shovenose: When you run firefox in the debugger, and it fails, it will automatically show you the stack trace in the lower right hand corner of the screen
# [18:35] <@bz> ok
# [18:35] <@bz> back in an hour, I hope....
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# [18:35] <shovenose> But I do not know how to open the debugger?
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# [18:36] <jwir3> shovenose: Ah ok, so you can open Visual Studio 2011 and it has a built-in debugger. You may have to load the project, though, which is something I don't know how to do. It should tell you, though, on that page that I gave you about FAQ on debugging on windows
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# [18:36] <jwir3> In the lower right hand corner (when the process crashes), you'll see a tab called 'call stack' - that's the same as the stack trace
# [18:37] <shovenose> I did not use Visual Studio to make Firefox?
# [18:37] <jwir3> shovenose: Yes, that's the same as msvc
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# [18:37] <jwir3> shovenose: start-msvc11.bat utilizes the microsoft compiler to make firefox, IIUC
# [18:38] <shovenose> OK
# [18:38] <shovenose> so I open the firefox.exe in visual stuiod?
# [18:39] <shovenose> OMG
# [18:39] <shovenose> it worked
# [18:39] <shovenose> It took like 10 seconds before it crashed I think it's that First Run page causing it, can I remove that?
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# [18:40] <shovenose> I turned off the wifi on my laptop so it had no internet
# [18:40] <jwir3> shovenose: Yeah, it will take longer to run in the debugger
# [18:40] <shovenose> and it is staying open :)
# [18:40] <shovenose> no no not in the debugger
# [18:40] <shovenose> just the file
# [18:40] <jwir3> hm
# [18:40] <jwir3> shovenose: Well, can you open the page about:crashes
# [18:40] <jwir3> in firefox
# [18:40] <shovenose> It's the first run page that makes it borken
# [18:41] <shovenose> yeah i opened it
# [18:41] <jwir3> do you see a list of crashes?
# [18:41] <shovenose> yup
# [18:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf7582f6cde9 - Benoit Girard - Bug 679527 - Prefer floorf over floor in qcms. r=jrmuizel
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# [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/017a34f07d4a - Benoit Girard - Bug 679527 - Use floorf/ceilf in qcms transform function. r=jrmuizel
# [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5511e214fed3 - Benoit Girard - Bug 679527 - Avoid float operation in qcms transforms. r=jrmuizel
# [18:41] <jwir3> ok, turn on the wifi on your machine, then click on the first crash
# [18:42] <shovenose> I did, it is tellinjg me to wait :)
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# [18:42] <shovenose> OK now what?
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# [18:42] <jwir3> shovenose: yep, that's normal
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# [18:43] <jwir3> ok, now could you copy that id that it has there and paste it in the channel?
# [18:43] <shovenose> um
# [18:43] <shovenose> I'm IRCing on a different computer
# [18:43] <shovenose> I will email it to myself hold on please
# [18:43] <jwir3> shovenose: ok
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# [18:46] <shovenose> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9094c01e-5347-4d8d-90c5-926c12121105
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# [18:47] <@smaug> !seen rniwa
# [18:47] <@killer> I don't know who rniwa is.
# [18:47] <firebot> rniwa was last seen 10 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying 'ehsan: yeah. their online version or whatever uses it' in #developers.
# [18:47] <@ehsan> smaug: you can usually find him on #webkit
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# [18:48] <@smaug> ehsan: usually #whatwg too, but he isn't there
# [18:48] <jwir3> shovenose: looking...
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# [18:48] <@ehsan> huh
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# [18:48] <shovenose> thanks!
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# [18:49] <shovenose> It seems stable enough; it's running Peacekeeper benchmark wonderfully
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# [18:49] <jwir3> shovenose: It looks like it's crashing trying to load a plugin
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# [18:49] <shovenose> that explains why Safe Mode works :)
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# [18:49] <jwir3> shovenose: but, that's strange, because it's a new build, so there should be minimal plugins installed
# [18:49] <jwir3> shovenose: I'd recommend going to about:addons, and disabling each one individually and seeing if that helps
# [18:49] <shovenose> well it probably used my normal Firefox build?
# [18:50] <jwir3> oh!
# [18:50] <jwir3> shovenose: true. it probably used your profile from your normal FF build
# [18:50] <jwir3> shovenose: So, try running it like this instead:
# [18:50] <shovenose> It's in Safe Mode right now
# [18:50] <jwir3> shovenose: firefox.exe -no-remote -P <directory to another profile>
# [18:50] <jwir3> shovenose: You'll have to create the other profile directory, though
# [18:50] <shovenose> which directory?
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# [18:51] <jwir3> shovenose: Or, you can run:
# [18:51] <jwir3> firefox.exe -no-remote -profile-manager
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# [18:51] <jwir3> (I think)
# [18:51] <shovenose> OK I will try that in a moment
# [18:51] <jwir3> and it should give you th eoption to create a new profile
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# [18:52] <KWierso|Surface> "-P" with nothing following it will bring up the profile manager
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> Speak of the devil
# [18:54] <Ms2ger> Hi rniwa
# [18:54] <rniwa> Ms2ger: hi
# [18:54] <Ms2ger> We were just talking about UndoManager
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# [18:56] <@smaug> rniwa: so, is anyone editing the spec anymore?
# [18:56] <KWierso|Surface> jwir3, shovenose: and I'm pretty sure -P just takes a profile name, while -profile takes a path
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# [18:56] <@smaug> rniwa: or what is happening with it ?
# [18:56] <shovenose> well the browser works
# [18:56] <rniwa> smaug: ah
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# [18:56] <rniwa> smaug: slightlyoff is taking over it
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# [18:56] <shovenose> crap
# [18:56] <jwir3> shovenose: Ah, ok. I have a script to run it, so I'm pretty sure KWierso|surface is probably correct.
# [18:57] <rniwa> smaug: unless something has changed at the google side :)
# [18:57] <shovenose> it stopped
# [18:57] <rniwa> smaug, Ms2ger: so the spec is still there. it's just that i'm no longer responsible myself.
# [18:57] <@smaug> rniwa: are you not working for Google anymore ?
# [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e3b0555498f - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 808647 - Disable failing sanity reftests for B2G, a=test-only
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# [18:59] <@smaug> Gecko needs to implement UndoManager first, so that the better version of the API gets implemented, and then webkit just needs to fix their cycle handling :)
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# [19:00] <shovenose> how much of the stuff in the bin directory is required for my firefox that i compiled to actuall work?
# [19:00] <shovenose> I want to send it to my friend to try
# [19:00] <mreid> shovenose, you can make the package
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# [19:01] <rniwa> smaug: no.
# [19:01] <Ms2ger> rniwa, you realized they turned evil? ;)
# [19:02] <@khuey> ha
# [19:02] <rniwa> Ms2ger, smaug: I work for Apple now.
# [19:02] <mreid> shovenose, cd <objdir>; make package
# [19:02] <wchen> rniwa: do you still work on webkit?
# [19:02] <rniwa> wchen: yes.
# [19:02] <Ms2ger> rniwa, ... they were not evil enough? :)
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# [19:02] <@smaug> :)
# [19:03] <rniwa> Ms2ger: whether a company I work for is evil or not isn't an interesting question to me.
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# [19:03] <Ms2ger> rniwa, I see
# [19:04] <rniwa> Ms2ger: I'm more interested in my immediate work environment :)
# [19:04] <rniwa> s/interested in/concerned about/
# [19:04] <Ms2ger> rniwa, and at Google, that was...
# [19:04] <rniwa> Ms2ger: and my personal/career goals
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# [19:11] <shovenose> I just put it all in inno setup :)
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# [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c999fc311c28 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 806611 - Make wpa_supplicant noisy when debug is enabled for wifi. r=vchang
# [19:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6706f42b153b - Blake Kaplan - Bug 806611 - Control wifi debug output based on a setting. r=vchang
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# [19:26] <@ehsan> jwatt: ping
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# [19:26] <jwatt> ehsan: pong
# [19:27] <@ehsan> jwatt: hey, you mentioned a while ago that you have a fix for bug 675902?
# [19:27] <@ehsan> er
# [19:27] <@ehsan> bug 775350
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# [19:27] <jwatt> ehsan: I mentioned I'd uncovered the underlying issue
# [19:27] <@ehsan> ok
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# [19:28] <jwatt> ehsan: I've not got around to the fix yet
# [19:28] <jwatt> ehsan: I'll comment in the bug
# [19:28] <@ehsan> I see
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# [19:28] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [19:28] <jwatt> sure
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# [19:29] <@ehsan> jwatt: it would be great if you can get the fix in before the next uplift :)
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# [19:29] <jimm> armenzg: ping
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# [19:30] <armenzg> jimm: pong
# [19:30] <jwatt> ehsan: I agree that would be great
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> jwir3|lunch-then-dentist, don't forget to brush your teeth in between
# [19:30] <jimm> armenzg: hey, I don't think I can push an elm patch to try
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# [19:31] <jimm> I could formulate an mc version of the patch maybe and try pushing it
# [19:31] <jimm> bu it would just burn
# [19:31] <@ehsan> jwatt: if you don't have the cycles, but can provide guidance on what the fix would look like, I can give it a shot during this weekend or something
# [19:31] <armenzg> jimm: OK. let me step back
# [19:31] <armenzg> jimm: do you have the patch already committed to elm?
# [19:32] <jimm> armenzg: no, but I can
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# [19:33] <armenzg> jimm: that would be great
# [19:33] <armenzg> and make my testing easier
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# [19:33] <jimm> would you like me to push it to elm first? I was wondering if we could test on staging before we do that, but we can use elm to do this
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# [19:34] <armenzg> jimm: it's easier for me to do it from elm but we can prevent it if you would like to
# [19:34] <jimm> armenzg: ok, so we probably won't need any staging testing assuming it works
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# [19:34] <jimm> that's ok, lets take a shot at updating elm
# [19:35] <jimm> if something breaks we'll back it out
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# [19:36] <@bsmedberg> jdm: ping
# [19:36] <jdm> bsmedberg: hey there
# [19:36] <@bsmedberg> jdm: I just wanted to get some numbers straight about the contribute pages
# [19:36] <armenzg> jimm: ok cool
# [19:36] <@bsmedberg> jdm: we get 200 inquiries daily, right?
# [19:36] <jdm> bsmedberg: iirc, yes
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# [19:37] <jimm> armenzg: how hard is it to switch those builders over from vs2012 to vs2010?
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# [19:37] <@bsmedberg> jdm: is that across all of mozilla, or just coding-related things?
# [19:37] <armenzg> jimm: I thought it is just a mozconfig change, no?
# [19:37] <jdm> bsmedberg: https://metrics.mozilla.com/data/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=metrics2&path=%2FgetInvolved&file=getInvolved.wcdf
# [19:37] <@bsmedberg> like, does that include marketing/l10n/etc?
# [19:37] <jdm> bsmedberg: all mozilla
# [19:37] <armenzg> jimm: they have both VS2012 and VS2012
# [19:37] <jimm> armenzg: is it?
# [19:37] <jimm> ok
# [19:37] <armenzg> *VS2010
# [19:37] <jimm> ah I see
# [19:37] <jimm> due to the bin pathhs
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# [19:37] <jimm> ok
# [19:38] <@bsmedberg> jdm: do you know how many of those roughly would be engineering-type volunteers?
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# [19:38] <jimm> armenzg: ok pushed, let's see what happens.
# [19:39] <@bsmedberg> jdm: or, how are the "contribution type" numbers on that page determined?
# [19:39] <jimm> armenzg: btw, any ideas on bug 808406?
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# [19:39] <@bsmedberg> is that a drop down, or are we guessing?
# [19:39] <jdm> bsmedberg: add together coding, webdev, and possibly testing, and you can get a reasonable estimation
# [19:39] <jimm> that might get in the way if I get that slave on my push
# [19:39] <jdm> bsmedberg: they're based on the number of inquiries to a particular type from the list at http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/
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# [19:39] <@bsmedberg> ok thanks
# [19:40] <armenzg> jimm: it doesn't ring a bell; let me request clobbering and hopefully that helps
# [19:40] <armenzg> I will trigger the jobs on staging
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# [19:41] <jimm> armenzg: do you know which mozconfigs are associated with nightlies and win opt builds??
# [19:42] <jimm> I need to update those as well. I'm guessing 'release' and 'nightly'
# [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8cd6fa12a8b - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 805046 - Add a class to represent a set of stacks that share a object list. r=vdjeric.
# [19:42] <armenzg> jimm: release is for actual releases
# [19:42] <jimm> ah ok
# [19:42] <armenzg> jimm: nightly is for on-change and nightly builds
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# [19:43] <jimm> armenzg: ok, so I have enable-metro in 'nightly' and 'debug'
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# [19:43] <armenzg> jimm: that's great. thanks
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# [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4e87d8355501 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 804366 - Include test names in Marionette failure messages, r=ahal
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# [19:48] <@smaug> ehsan: I did file a spec bug about 0 channel madness
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# [19:48] <jimm> armenzg: pfft, we haven't made the change to that sdk header yet
# [19:48] <jimm> armenzg: so the win opt build is totally going to burn
# [19:48] <@ehsan> smaug: oh, you did? what's the bug #?
# [19:48] <armenzg> jimm: I will fix it and re-trigger it
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# [19:48] * @ehsan just filed one as well
# [19:48] <jimm> armenzg: ok
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# [19:48] <@smaug> ehsan: didn't I paste the url to the gecko bug
# [19:49] <@smaug> oh, I didn't
# [19:49] <@ehsan> smaug: not as far as I can tell
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# [19:49] <@smaug> ehsan: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19854
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# [19:49] <@ehsan> thanks
# [19:49] <espindola> configure: error: Perl 5.006 or higher is required.
# [19:50] <espindola> something wrong with the bots...
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# [19:51] <espindola> kmoir_buildduty: ^
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# [19:52] <kmoir_buildduty> espinola: there is a bug open for this issue on that slave https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808683
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# [19:52] <kmoir_buildduty> sorry espindola ^^
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# [19:53] <espindola> kmoir_buildduty: should I ask for a rebuild?
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# [20:10] <@bz> Oh guardians of the tree, hear my plea
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# [20:11] <@bz> Wouldst thou look propitiously upon my addition of changesets to inbound?
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# [20:14] <@bz> The guardians are silent
# [20:14] <edmorley> bz: itym: "Oh guardians of the tree, hear my plea... Wouldst thou accept a DONTBUILD from me?" ;-)
# [20:14] <@bz> And the red is starred
# [20:14] <@khuey> edmorley++
# [20:14] <@bz> edmorley: no, no
# [20:15] <@bz> edmorley: This stuff is just fine to build. ;)
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# [20:15] <@khuey> the people who run inbound should start demanding offerings in their name before allowing landings
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# [20:15] <edmorley> on all the platforms, or just some...? :-)
# [20:15] <@bz> edmorley: good question
# [20:16] <@bz> edmorley: I think it should build on all, of course
# [20:16] <@bz> edmorley: but what do I know?
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# [20:16] <edmorley> I jest, I'm sure it's fine
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# [20:16] <@bz> edmorley: for all I know, there's some android-only ifdefs to fail to build any push I do
# [20:16] <@bz> edmorley: wouldn't be surprised!
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# [20:16] <@bz> Aha
# [20:16] <@bz> I see
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# [20:16] <edmorley> ha, that would be a funny april-fools buildbotcustom patch
# [20:16] <@bz> window.dump() is hacked up
# [20:16] <edmorley> or TBPL
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# [20:16] * @bz hacks up his code too
# [20:17] <armenzg> jimm: it's probably better to backout and figure things out on staging
# [20:17] <jimm> ok
# [20:17] <@bz> alright
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# [20:17] <@khuey> padenot: yay!
# [20:17] <@bz> I guess the next question is how I make sure tbpl sees my stuff
# [20:17] <@khuey> welcome aboard
# [20:17] <jimm> armenzg: I just noticed one problem with the runtime dlls that needs to get straightened out.
# [20:18] <edmorley> bz the full log link shows everthing
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# [20:18] <@bz> edmorley: ah, great
# [20:18] <edmorley> apart from 'y's that is
# [20:18] <armenzg> jimm: I was looking at it; do you know what I';m supposed to do?
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# [20:19] <jimm> armenzg: as a temp work around we can use the vs2012 runtime. I can land a patch that does that.
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# [20:19] <jimm> or post a patch, whichever you prefer.
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# [20:20] <armenzg> jimm: if you want to land a patch that would help me
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# [20:20] <armenzg> otherwise I can setup an staging elm repo and go from there
# [20:20] <jimm> ok
# [20:20] <armenzg> which is probably cleaner even if it takes me a little bit more of time
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# [20:21] <@bz> edmorley: so in seriousness, is it safe to push?
# [20:21] <edmorley> bz: yes
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# [20:27] <dholbert> jduell, WFM
# [20:27] <jduell> dholbert: hmm, and now it does for me too.
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# [20:28] <@ehsan> mccr8: ping
# [20:28] <mccr8> ehsan: pong
# [20:29] <@ehsan> mccr8: about bug 808374, which js pointers are you talking about?
# [20:30] <mccr8> ehsan: oh, I guess the only JS pointers are in mChannels, and the length of mChannels is set to 0 in Unlink?
# [20:30] <mccr8> (aside from the wrapper cache)
# [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c69822a9bd0f - Jim Chen - Bug 808405 - Use system preference for TimePicker 12/24 hour format; r=wesj
# [20:30] <@ehsan> mccr8: yeah, by a call to NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_UNLINK_NSCOMARRAY
# [20:31] <@ehsan> mccr8: I don't think there's anything more to be done in that patch...
# [20:31] <mccr8> ehsan: ah okay, my mistake then. :) I'll update in the bug.
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# [20:31] <@ehsan> cool
# [20:31] <@ehsan> so I'll land the patch
# [20:31] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [20:32] <mccr8> sorry about that. :)
# [20:32] <@ehsan> mccr8: no worries :)
# [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc191fe62b43 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 808374 - Balance holding and dropping the JS object references for AudioBuffers initialized with 0 channels; r=mmcr8
# [20:32] <@ehsan> mccr8: but please stop mid-airing me :P
# [20:33] <@ehsan> mccr8: and thanks for the review :)
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# [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/287f8cf1f1e1 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 804319. Implement parsing of the "stringifier;" shorthand. r=khuey
# [20:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d56f12af4cd1 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 804632. Allow certain reserved words as argument names in WebIDL. r=khuey
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# [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fd8e9243788 - Steve Fink - Bug 807458 - Eliminate a SkipRoot from NewDenseCopiedArray. r=terrence
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# [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0ecdce3d8ed - Steve Fink - Bug 807829 - SkipRoot no longer needed for StackIter script
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# [21:13] <philipp64|laptop> had a question about cert management and SSL... had just asked on #nss, but didn't get a response.
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# [21:14] <philipp64|laptop> I'm using TB 16.0.1 and Early Bird, and both are rejected a re-issued self-signed cert that Mail.app and "openssl s_client" are fine with.
# [21:14] <philor> wow, there's an #nss?
# [21:15] <philipp64|laptop> the smoking gun points to TB being the culprit.
# [21:15] <philipp64|laptop> the MTA is sendmail.
# [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20ae9d346163 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset efb52cbc71e5 (diagnostics for bug 8022011) because it is no longer needed
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# [21:15] <philipp64|laptop> I'm using sendmail 8.14.5 on Fedora 16.
# [21:15] <philipp64|laptop> the original cert was generated via make-dummy-cert.
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# [21:16] <philipp64|laptop> I reissued the cert a year later with: http://fpaste.org/s0xi/
# [21:17] <philipp64|laptop> when I point "openssl s_client ..." at my MTA, I get: http://fpaste.org/Xf7Y/
# [21:17] <philipp64|laptop> i.e. s_client is fine with the self-signed cert.
# [21:17] <philipp64|laptop> However, TB causes Sendmail to belch with:
# [21:18] <philipp64|laptop> Nov 5 12:29:33 mail sendmail[791]: STARTTLS=server, error: accept failed=0, SSL_error=1, errno=0, retry=-1, relay=macbook.redfish-solutions.com [192.168.1.17]
# [21:18] <philipp64|laptop> Nov 5 12:29:33 mail sendmail[791]: STARTTLS=server: 791:error:14094412:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad certificate:s3_pkt.c:1195:SSL alert number 42
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# [21:19] <Mook_as> out of curiosity, what are your old and new serial numbers?
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# [21:19] <Mook_as> (nss likes to keep track of them and reject certs with duplicate serial numbers)
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# [21:20] <philipp64|laptop> old was 2, new is 3.
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# [21:20] <philipp64|laptop> I tried deleting them from the cert store, but that didn't make any difference.
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# [21:36] <jdm> yes, that would square with the other errors that follow about an undefined vtable
# [21:36] <jdm> tbsaunde: thanks
# [21:36] <tbsaunde> I wonder if your missing a virtual function, or is that a template class that isn't getting instantiated for your type maybe?
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# [21:37] <tbsaunde> jdm: yeah, generally I just hope for other errors and fix those
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# [21:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfe6972056d6 - Vladan Djeric - Bug 808268 - Report % of dirty keys in a scope during a flush. r=taras
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# [21:51] <evilpie> bz: could you point me in the direction of some download tests? most what i find seems to test the downloads manager
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# [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bd42ae5efd2 - Jeff Walden - Bug 803439 - Add removeFrom() that takes a list and asserts the element is initially present in it. r=jlebar
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# [21:57] <rniwa> smaug: btw, i was gonna say that i don't care whether undo manager is ever implemented in webkit or not.
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# [21:57] <rniwa> smaug: if it gets enough traction, other browsers would implement it anyway.
# [21:57] <rniwa> smaug: now that i'm no longer responsible for implementing it :D
# [21:58] <@smaug> rniwa: obviously
# [21:58] <@smaug> :)
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# [21:58] <@smaug> you weren't passionate enough about the API
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# [21:59] <rniwa> smaug: i wasn't because the api got hackier in each iteration :(
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# [21:59] <rniwa> smaug: I don't feel right about the way API has evolved.
# [21:59] <rniwa> smaug: i think we can do a better job
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# [22:00] <rniwa> smaug: but i wasn't a good enough engineer to come up with better apis
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# [22:00] <rniwa> smaug: nor was i good enough diplomat to polish the api for the greater good.
# [22:00] <rniwa> smaug: basically, i failed quite miserably as the editor :(
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# [22:01] <@smaug> bah, you were good. But it was very unexpected to hear that the API can't be implemented in webkit
# [22:01] <@smaug> and changing the API because of that isn't really a good reason
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# [22:02] <rniwa> smaug: well, there are always implementation constraints :)
# [22:02] <rniwa> smaug: we can't force someone to implement an API that can be implemented in a reasonable way
# [22:02] <rniwa>
# [22:02] <@smaug> sure, but in this particular case it involves only one browser engine
# [22:02] <rniwa> smaug: e.g. we might say we should be able to create DOM in workers
# [22:03] <rniwa> smaug: and fully parallelize DOM
# [22:03] <@smaug> and the case is rather fundamental
# [22:03] <rniwa> smaug: it IS rather fundamental
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# [22:03] <rniwa> smaug: i've also found that -webkit-user-modify complicates a lot of things :(
# [22:04] <@smaug> fun :(
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# [22:06] <aduda> Hi all, I was wondering If I could get some advice for testing a toolkit patch.
# [22:06] <rniwa> smaug: but sadly some web contents depend on it :(
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# [22:06] <aduda> This is the first time I'm doing this and I'm not sure how to go about submitting tests with my patch.
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# [22:07] <rniwa> smaug: maybe this is one of those cases where we have to hit the damage and break some...
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# [22:07] <rniwa> s/hit/take/
# [22:07] <@smaug> rniwa: how commonly used property is that?
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# [22:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f458467cc2cf - Bill McCloskey - Bug 808067 - Change the compartments we iterate over when ending GC (r=jonco)
# [22:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c5e4097dd20 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 808067 - Toggle Ion barriers when resetting incremental GC (r=sstangl)
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# [22:41] <jimm> armenzg_mtg: would it be possible for me to get access to w64-ix-slave20 to check?
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# [22:42] <jimm> armenzg_mtg: nm, read your last post on the bug
# [22:43] <armenzg_mtg> jimm: we should grant you BuildVPN access to help me debug things like this
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# [22:43] <armenzg_mtg> at least for the first weeks
# [22:44] <armenzg_mtg> what do you think?
# [22:44] <armenzg_mtg> or should be fine?
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# [22:45] <jimm> armenzg_mtg: lets see if the second builds gets past it, if not, I'd like to take a look at w64-ix-slave20 to see what's going wrong.
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# [22:45] <jimm> if that means I need access via BuildVPN, so be it.
# [22:45] <armenzg_mtg> ok cool
# [22:45] <armenzg_mtg> jimm: I'm aiming to have 3 builds
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# [22:46] <armenzg_mtg> I had disable w64-ix-slave43 for now
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# [22:46] <jimm> sounds good
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# [22:49] <taras> khuey: or ted do you know if we messed with some linker flags
# [22:49] <taras> or something in late october?
# [22:49] <taras> or glandium
# [22:50] <taras> our windows library loading times got 50% better
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# [22:50] <taras> though mac seems better too
# [22:52] <@khuey> taras: not that I'm aware of
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# [22:59] <till> Do the many reds on inbound mean that whatever I push is likely to be backed out again soon?
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# [23:00] <@khuey> it means you shouldn't push
# [23:00] <@khuey> pushing on top of red is bad
# [23:01] <till> khuey: that's what I thought. So should the tree be closed for that?
# [23:02] <@smaug> (push to m-c and watch the tree yourself is always one option)
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# [23:02] <till> nah, it's not urgent
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# [23:03] <@khuey> till: 302 kmoir_buildduty
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# [23:03] <@khuey> looks like an infra problem
# [23:03] <till> it does, yes
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# [23:04] <till> kmoir_buildduty: are you aware of the bustage on inbound?
# [23:04] <kmoir_buildduty> khuey: no, just looking at it now
# [23:04] <edmorley|away> billm: bustage
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# [23:06] <gps> khuey: how does xpconnect deal with JS strings that contain characters with character codes > 255? i.e. if I pass a JS string into something expecting a char *, how does that work?
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# [23:11] <Mook_as> gps: do you mean a |string| in IDL? I think that just chops off the top half
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# [23:12] <gps> Mook_as: I /think/ in this case it is a nsACString
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# [23:12] <gps> oh - it is a |string| in IDL, yes
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# [23:13] <@bz> gps: usually a bad sign
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# [23:13] <gps> bz: so if I have a JS string and I want all the data to get through, what do I need to do?
# [23:14] <Mook_as> AUTF8String
# [23:14] <Mook_as> (or AString/DOMString/other UTF-16 types)
# [23:14] <gps> this is completely in JS
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# [23:14] <@smaug> you may want to look at XPCConvert
# [23:14] <@smaug> JSData2Native
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# [23:14] <philor> kmoir_buildduty: is it filed yet, so I can put a bug number in the tree closure message?
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# [23:15] <gps> what about nsIScriptableUnicodeConverter?
# [23:15] <@khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCConvert.cpp#546
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# [23:15] <@khuey> CheckJSCharInCharRange is probably the interesting bit
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# [23:15] <gps> I could convert all JS strings to UTF-8
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# [23:15] <@khuey> you should just skip string and wstring in xpidl
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# [23:15] <@khuey> and use a different type
# [23:15] <gps> although that only works for JS strings that are UTF-16
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# [23:16] <@bz> gps: you're calling from JS to JS through xpconnect, right?
# [23:16] <gps> if I have binary data :/
# [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6dcc0beba62c - Ed Morley - Backout f458467cc2cf & 5c5e4097dd20 (bug 808067) for make check failures
# [23:16] <@bz> gps: in that case, use AString
# [23:16] <@bz> gps: in your IDL
# [23:16] <gps> sorry - I'm feeding data in and out of nsIStreamConverterService
# [23:16] <gps> I need to initialize a nsIStringInputStream from the source data
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# [23:17] <gaston> is there a way to make MOZ_CRASH() more verbose, ie telling where it was called from ? so far my crashes only produces unusable coredumps
# [23:17] <Mook_as> if it's _really_ binary data, array of octets?
# [23:17] <gps> unless you tell me a better way to get an nsIInputStream from a JS string
# [23:17] <kmoir_buildduty> philor: no not yet, talking to people, haven't dealt with this before
# [23:17] <@bz> gps: ah
# [23:17] <@bz> gps: So in that case, what does your data represent?
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# [23:18] <Mook_as> huh, nsIStringInputStream takes |string|; that's yucky.
# [23:18] <@bz> gps: JS strings are arrays of 16-bit integers
# [23:18] <@bz> gps: what do your 16-bit integers mean?
# [23:19] <jwalden> gaston: printf something before it; alternatively, fix the bug on file to make MOZ_CRASH take a const char* and print it before crashing
# [23:19] <gps> bz: I'm aware of the underlying representation. with what everyone is saying, I think I should change the semantics of my API to be "behavior is only guaranteed if the input string consists of character codes < 255
# [23:19] <philor> kmoir_buildduty: yeah, having quite the busy Monday - filed bug 808790
# [23:20] <gaston> jwalden: printf smth before it, sure, if only i knew which one to instrument :)
# [23:20] <kmoir_buildduty> thanks philor
# [23:20] <@bz> gps: sure
# [23:20] <@bz> gps: but even then there's the question of what API to use
# [23:20] <gps> I'm trying to create a somewhat generic API. I think that is the only reasonable decision. otherwise you are assuming data representation that only the caller knows
# [23:20] <@bz> gps: I'm just making sure I understand your setup: you basically have an array of random bytes
# [23:21] <gps> I should be using typed arrays, yes
# [23:21] <jwalden> gaston: you could have MOZ_CRASH() printf __FILE__ and __LINE__...
# [23:21] * @bz said nothing of the sort
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# [23:21] <@bz> No should from me; just sorting out where we are
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# [23:21] <@bz> So what you could do is create a string input stream
# [23:21] <gps> well, I believe that binary data should be represented in typed arrays and not strings
# [23:21] <@bz> QI to nsISupportsCString
# [23:21] <edmorley|away> philor: yey, new spidermonkey buildernames that need re-hiding once they complete
# [23:21] <@bz> and then SetData()
# [23:21] <jwalden> gaston: although note that we wouldn't take a patch to do that, because the idea is for MOZ_CRASH() to be a guaranteed-safe crash -- no trusting the heap or anything that might be corrupted within it
# [23:21] <gps> you can do that?!
# [23:21] <gaston> oh, not so many callers..
# [23:22] <@bz> gps: I agree, sure, but that's a separate discussion
# [23:22] <@bz> gps: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/io/nsStringStream.cpp#32 looks like you should be able to, yes. ;)
# [23:22] <philor> edmorley|away: at least they still seem to have the same old inability to find hg
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# [23:22] <sfink> edmorley|away: unfortunately, they'll be changing again too (the patch is landed but hasn't been pushed to production)
# [23:22] <edmorley|away> ah
# [23:22] <jwalden> gaston: well, MOZ_CRASH is also inside every MOZ_ASSERT, but presumably you're not hitting one of those :-)
# [23:22] <@bz> gps: and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/io/nsStringStream.cpp#366 is how I'd do it in C++
# [23:22] <sfink> philor: yeah, the patch to fix that is pending too
# [23:22] <@bz> gps: I agree it's ... hacky
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# [23:23] <gaston> i dont even know if my segfault come from a real crash or a moz_crash..
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# [23:23] <jwalden> gaston: why can't you run in a debugger and figure out what's crashing that way?
# [23:23] <gps> bz: the amount of kludging involved to send compressed JSON over the wire is... silly
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# [23:23] <gaston> jwalden: because gdb explodes
# [23:23] <@bz> gps: heh
# [23:24] <gps> don't get me started about how there is apparently no way to JSON.stringify() into a stream
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# [23:24] <jwalden> gaston: well, if you have no idea whether it's a deliberate crash or not, and gdb isn't helping, um
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# [23:25] <philor> mmm, we don't exactly cope well with failing to download symbols when we crash
# [23:25] * jwalden tends to count a mostly-working debugger as a prerequisite to development
# [23:25] <gaston> jwalden: if only... :)
# [23:26] <@bz> jwalden: overrated
# [23:26] <seth> Callek: did I break comm-*?
# [23:26] <@bz> WTF?
# [23:26] <jwalden> bz: if you don't want to waste hugeous amounts of time :-)
# [23:26] <Callek> seth: if this is re: days ago, no. if its re: something today -- no idea yet
# [23:26] <seth> Callek: i realize i am responding to a message from 2 days ago =)
# [23:26] <@bz> jwalden: I have android for that
# [23:26] <seth> Callek: haha OK thank goodness =)
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# [23:26] <@bz> ok
# [23:27] <gaston> Reading symbols from /usr/obj/m-a/js/xpconnect/shell/xpcshell...Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 0, should be 2, 3, or 4) [in module /usr/obj/m-a/js/xpconnect/shell/xpcshell]
# [23:27] <Callek> seth: hehe, no worries, I would have commented in bug if needed :-)
# [23:27] <@bz> so what the f
# [23:27] <gaston> those warnings are scary too
# [23:27] <@bz> my output it not in the log. :(
# [23:27] <Mook_as> umm, you want to .data=, not setData(), because that second one is from nsIStringInputStream and is a |string|. (of course, with the name mangling, they're both SetData in C++, AIUI...)
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# [23:27] <Mook_as> oh, blah, missed a bunch of scrollback. possibly nevermind ;)
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# [23:27] <@bz> %^%^$%%$
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# [23:29] <@bz> Anyone here know anything about getting useful info out of android?
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# [23:30] <edmorley|away> bz: #ateam would be a good bet
# [23:30] <@bz> Ah, thanks
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# [23:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef966ef53b23 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 808067 - Fix needsBarrier (r=sstangl,jonco)
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# [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/07fe19d85b51 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 805153 - Check with the focus manager if our *content* is already focused. r=roc a=lsblakk
# [23:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6c1314c972a4 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 807174 - Drop-down list used inside a frameset document renders outside the frame. r=roc a=lsblakk
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# [23:48] <ochameau> jduell: yes, it is. But it only fixes first item of Jonas's comment 0
# [23:49] <ochameau> jduell: I haven't start working on the second item as I'm expecting jonas and gaia guy to work hard on that during the fxos workweek
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# [23:49] <sicking> ochameau: I can file a separate bug on the remaining issue. So you should take that bug and mark it fixed
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# [23:49] <edmorley|away> billm: both parts were backed ot, only one seems to have relanded; intentional?
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# [23:50] <sicking> ochameau: feel free to take the second item in that bug though. I have some higher priority stuff to do for now (writing tests mostly)
# [23:50] <billm> edmorley|away: I just backed out the backout
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# [23:51] <edmorley|away> billm: your relanding didn't match the backout; did you factor in the added file?
# [23:51] <billm> edmorley|away: oh, shoot. you're right. I forgot about that.
# [23:51] <ochameau> sicking: I've been assigned to some other stuff in the meantime, but I can get back to that one later, may be next week
# [23:51] <@smaug> hmm, something somewhere creates <xhtml:_> element
# [23:51] <sicking> ochameau: i'll file a separate bug and then whoever gets to it first gets to do it :)
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# [23:52] <sicking> ochameau: so feel free to assign the existing bug to you and mark it fixed as soon as the patch is landed
# [23:52] <ochameau> sicking: TBH I'm expecting etienne and ben to work on that or stuff very close to that this week.
# [23:52] <ochameau> sicking: ok sounds good
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# [23:52] <billm> edmorley|away: thanks. I just checked it in.
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# [23:53] <edmorley|away> billm: np :-)
# [23:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed1c5d55d104 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 808067 - Add test (r=sstangl)
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# [23:57] <markh> anyone know if getBoundingClientRect() is "bound" to the element? eg, if I do "let b = element.getBoundingClientRect()", then resize element, does b reflect the new size or still the original size?
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# [23:57] <@bz> markh: it's not live, no
# [23:57] <@bz> markh: it's a snapshot
# [23:58] <markh> that's what I thought, thanks!
# [23:58] <markh> but a comment from enn in one of my bugs made me question it...
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