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1. # Session Start: Thu Nov 08 00:00:00 2012
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8. # [00:02] <@ehsan> dbaron: still around?
9. # [00:02] <@dbaron> ehsan, yes
10. # [00:03] <@ehsan> dbaron: do you think that the RecomputePosition optimization can be useful for b2g?
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12. # [00:03] <@dbaron> ehsan, that's the name of the optimization that you're trying not to back out?
13. # [00:03] <@ehsan> yes
14. # [00:03] <@dbaron> ehsan, given that they're using transforms for that sort of thing, probably not
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16. # [00:04] <@ehsan> dbaron: in gaia sure. what about web apps?
17. # [00:04] <@dbaron> ehsan, perhaps, yes
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20. # [00:05] <@ehsan> dbaron: ok... let me think a bit more about it, and then I may ask for an aurora approval
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23. # [00:05] <psimonyi> How do I simulate a network outage in a browser-chrome test?
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27. # [00:06] <mcsmurf> psimonyi: wait a second, I'll look that up
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29. # [00:06] <mcsmurf> (I fixed a bug a few days ago)
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31. # [00:07] <psimonyi> okay, thanks!
32. # [00:07] <mcsmurf> psimonyi: take a look at http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/base/content/test/browser_bug435325.js
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41. # [00:09] <mcsmurf> psimonyi: though maybe not quite what you want..
42. # [00:09] <mcsmurf> it simulates the offline mode...well, it's a network outage
43. # [00:09] <mcsmurf> in some way
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46. # [00:10] <psimonyi> mcsmurf: Ah, that looks good enough. I didn't know about bug 87717.
47. # [00:10] <psimonyi> Thanks!
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50. # [00:11] <mcsmurf> psimonyi: maybe also see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/pgo/server-locations.txt
51. # [00:11] <mcsmurf> psimonyi: when you disable the proxy, you should not be able to reach those locations
52. # [00:11] <mcsmurf> when you enable the proxy, it should work again
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54. # [00:12] <njn> I want to use some Moz-specific stuff (i.e. memory reporter code) within ipc/chrome/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc -- is that ok?
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60. # [00:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7e66e18850f - Blake Kaplan - Bug 807148 - Rejigger the way that we turn on background scanning. a=gal/vchang
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65. # [00:14] <psimonyi> mcsmurf: that sounds perfect; I'll try it. Thank you!
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70. # [00:20] <@ehsan> roc: around?
71. # [00:20] <@roc> yes
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76. # [00:23] <@ehsan> hello!
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78. # [00:24] <@ehsan> roc: I was wondering if you've been able to invest some time in the web audio/media streams gluing project
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80. # [00:25] <@roc> only a tiny bit
81. # [00:25] <@roc> sorry
82. # [00:26] <@ehsan> it's fine
83. # [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/182185d15e6b - Cameron McCormack - Bug 809650 - Handle mach @CommandArguments in the right order. DONTBUILD (NPOTB) r=gps
84. # [00:26] <@ehsan> roc: I'll track you down next week ;)
85. # [00:26] <@ehsan> roc: is there anything that I can help with?
86. # [00:26] <@roc> you sure will
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89. # [00:28] <@roc> apart from the managers meeting Monday/Tuesday and the IETF stuff I'm currently involved with (I'm in Atlanta), the other drain on my time has been B2G platform bugs
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91. # [00:28] <@ehsan> ouch
92. # [00:28] <@ehsan> :(
93. # [00:29] <@ehsan> roc: do you have partial patches I can play with?
94. # [00:29] <@roc> I am talking to people here about our media streams code though
95. # [00:29] <@ehsan> what about it?
96. # [00:29] <@roc> some changes may need to be made for WebRTC
97. # [00:29] <@roc> reducing latency
98. # [00:30] <@ehsan> will those changes affect web audio too?
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100. # [00:32] <catlee> bbondy2: how can I get you the public certs for those b2g keys?
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106. # [00:37] <@roc> maybe
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108. # [00:38] <@roc> oh, the other thing on my plate is aurora and beta regressions
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110. # [00:39] <@roc> I'm getting a strange compile error about failing to access nsContentUtils from XPConnect
111. # [00:39] <@roc> sound familiar to anyone?
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114. # [00:40] <@ehsan> roc: shoot...
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129. # [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f686b428e0e - Bobby Holley - Bug 802557 - Mochitests. r=bz
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135. # [00:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a6bbf2b1cfc - Bobby Holley - Bug 805807 - Filter setters. r=mrbkap
136. # [00:50] <ashughes> bbondy, ping
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139. # [00:51] <bbondy> ashughes: hey
140. # [00:51] <ashughes> bbondy, I wanted clarification on the info you are looking for on that bug
141. # [00:51] <bbondy> ok
142. # [00:51] <ashughes> did you only need to know of cmd.exe::high creating dlls?
143. # [00:52] <bbondy> I'll pm you, sek.
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145. # [00:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed74314b44d5 - Gina Yeh - Bug 809515 - Patch 1: No response when failed to connect to a headset, r=qdot
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154. # [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b029a90619f5 - James Kitchener - Bug 786566 - ARIA menuitem acting as submenu should have PARENT_MENUITEM role, r=tbsaunde
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165. # [01:03] <catlee> bbondy: I attached the 3 certs in der format to the bug
166. # [01:04] <bbondy> catlee: great thanks, bsmith should take it from there and load those in the nss db for b2g
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169. # [01:04] <catlee> bbondy: in what ways are these "testing" certs?
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171. # [01:05] <bbondy> catlee: well they are real ones, but maybe when they are deployed to devices we will need to change them
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173. # [01:06] <catlee> bbondy: do we need separate certs then for try/dep, nightly, release like we did for firefox mars?
174. # [01:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/222f4185ecb5 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 800511 - Remove redundant validation from navigator.mozPay(); r=fabrice
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181. # [01:09] <Unfocused> Yoric: your try push for bug 794091 appears to be empty 2 commits specifying try parameters
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183. # [01:10] <@roc> OK, so I can't build inbound tip due to
184. # [01:10] <@roc> z:/roc/mozilla-inbound/obj-ff-debug3/js/xpconnect/src/../../../../js/xpconnect/src/XPCWrappedNative.cpp(1418) : error C2653: 'nsContentUtils' : is not a class or namespace name
185. # [01:10] <Unfocused> easy way to introduce no new oranges, i guess ;)
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187. # [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9ec1725a5e2 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 809437 - Stop b2g process before installing gecko into an emulator, r=jgriffin
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189. # [01:12] <@roc> preprocesed output looks like
190. # [01:12] <@roc> #line 21 "z:/roc/mozilla-inbound/obj-ff-debug3/js/xpconnect/src/../../../../js/x
191. # [01:12] <@roc> pconnect/src/XPCWrappedNative.cpp"^M
192. # [01:12] <@roc> ^M
193. # [01:12] <@roc> #line 1 "z:\\roc\\mozilla-inbound\\content\\base\\src\\nsContentUtils.h"^M
194. # [01:12] <@roc> #line 23 "z:/roc/mozilla-inbound/obj-ff-debug3/js/xpconnect/src/../../../../js/x
195. # [01:12] <@roc> pconnect/src/XPCWrappedNative.cpp"^M
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197. # [01:13] <karl> i'm going to disable the update-1 reftest I added until i work out what happened on win debug
198. # [01:13] <@roc> that's the only place we include nsContentUtils.h of course
199. # [01:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d941ad65a09e - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 805844: Support update interval configuration via settings in B2G. r=fabrice
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206. # [01:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f647e3c9a06c - Karl Tomlinson - disable test for bug 807728 due to win debug failure
207. # [01:19] <Yoric> Unfocused: Well, look at the parent changeset, there's more :)
208. # [01:20] <Unfocused> ah!
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227. # [01:32] <NeilAway> gps: what made you think xpcshell was an app and therefore had app info?
228. # [01:33] <Mook_as> some xpcshell tests _do_ have appinfo (there is some common fake app info that can be used), IIRC
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230. # [01:34] <NeilAway> Mook_as: yeah, he found that later
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233. # [01:35] <sicking> mounir: hey
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235. # [01:35] <mounir> sicking: hi
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237. # [01:35] <sicking> mounir: everyone agrees that this is an application specific API, and that that sucks
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239. # [01:35] <gps> I may just implement that common app info code in a test-only JS module so we can have a consistent app for xpcshell tests (at least those that want one)
240. # [01:36] <sicking> mounir: the "real" fix is to add better API to allow the app to keep its own IDB "cache"
241. # [01:36] <gps> there is already some suckiness in that sync's app info must match what is used by the add-ons manager in order for add-on sync to work
242. # [01:36] <sicking> mounir: but that's too big of a change this late in the cycle
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250. # [01:38] <sicking> mounir: technically the app can assume that it's the only app interacting with the SMS API and that the database never changes unless the app requests a change. I.e. that nothing ever gets marked read or is deleted unless the app explicitly makes a call to do that
251. # [01:38] <sicking> mounir: but that's also really ugly
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253. # [01:38] <sicking> mounir: and in fact isn't really true since the cost control app also uses the SMS API
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260. # [01:43] <mounir> sicking: I'm not complaining that this is app-specific API
261. # [01:43] <mounir> sicking: that bothers me but at that point, complaining would be a waste of time
262. # [01:44] <mounir> sicking: the issue is that we push to the API something that could simply be solved by the app
263. # [01:44] <mounir> as explained in comment 5
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265. # [01:44] <mounir> even if that requires that no other app will mark as read/unread or delete a message
266. # [01:45] <mounir> which, I believe will be the case
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273. # [01:46] <jmaher|afk> Yoric: ping
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282. # [01:48] <sicking> mounir: sorry, chatting with jan
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288. # [01:49] <Yoric> jmaher: vague 1am pong.
289. # [01:50] <jmaher> Yoric: we could resume tomorrow if you wish
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291. # [01:50] <Yoric> That would probably be better, yes.
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295. # [01:51] <mounir> sicking: np
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304. # [01:54] <@roc> uuuuuhhhhhhhh
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306. # [01:55] <@roc> HOW did an empty file content/base/src/nsContentUtils.h get created in my inbound tree?
307. # [01:55] <@roc> with a last-modified date of October 14?
308. # [01:55] <@roc> and how did I not notice until now?
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310. # [01:57] <azakai> BenWa: gecko profiler says "not available for your platform". I'm on linux. is that expected?
311. # [01:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7062c8f550ea - Gregor Wagner - Bug 808327 - [settings] Re-enable security checks for settings. r=bent
312. # [01:58] <BenWa> azakai: Yes we're still working on it. At this point a system profiler is better because the linux support is poor
313. # [01:58] <azakai> BenWa: i thought pseudostack stuff was working though?
314. # [01:58] <BenWa> Yes it does work
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316. # [01:58] <azakai> but the addon is intentionally not installable on linux?
317. # [01:59] <BenWa> You can grab a build from my github
318. # [01:59] <azakai> oh ok
319. # [01:59] <BenWa> I rather just not support linux yet because it makes the dependency matrix too complex
320. # [01:59] <BenWa> but feel free to try it and report bugs
321. # [01:59] <azakai> ok, cool
322. # [01:59] <azakai> thanks
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324. # [01:59] <BenWa> https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/blob/master/geckoprofiler.xpi
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485. # [03:10] <jwalden> anyone: is it more pythonic to do |text.find("//") == -1|, or to do |"//" not in text|? I'd guess the latter, don't know tho
486. # [03:11] <jwalden> (assume text is a string, of course)
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492. # [03:15] <Callek> jwalden: my pref is always |not in text| where it makes sense, but as always I'd match surrounding code style first and foremost :-)
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547. # [03:42] <mconley> gavin: ping
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556. # [03:45] <@gavin> mconley: pong
557. # [03:46] <mconley> gavin: hey - you wouldn't happen to know if I can use XUL keyset/key's strictly within a panel, can I?
558. # [03:46] <mconley> like, if the panel has focus, then these keys are active - that kinda thing - without having to do it programmatically
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567. # [03:51] <mconley> gavin: hrm, n/m - according to MDN on <key>: "In order to use (non-default) key commands within specific elements, you will need to listen for key events."
568. # [03:51] <mconley> so I guess I'm SOL
569. # [03:51] <mconley> addEventListener it is.
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571. # [03:53] <@gavin> mconley: glad I could help! :)
572. # [03:54] <mconley> gavin: you played the role of the duck marvelously. :D
573. # [03:54] <mconley> s/marvelously/marvellously
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680. # [04:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/423e9423d693 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 808270 - Stub installer pings not always sent. r=jimm
681. # [04:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1626c61ba11b - Ehsan Akhgari - Merge mozilla-central into mozilla-inbound
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739. # [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea85f4e3fc2d - Chris Jones - Bug 806029: Have remote content drop their buffers when they're hidden. r=mattwoodrow sr=roc
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765. # [05:32] <gandalf> do we support drag&drop API on touch devices? can't get it running
766. # [05:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0d1ffbe9a87 - Edwin Flores - Bug 804906 - Plug leak in GonkIOSurfaceImage::GetAsSurface r=doublec
767. # [05:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bae179e2b956 - Edwin Flores - Bug 798448 - Stop GonkNativeWindow::perform returning an error when the transform is set r=kanru
768. # [05:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5d536720f2c - Edwin Flores - Bug 798448 - Add YVU420SP to RGB565 conversion function r=gal
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783. # [05:50] <devd> can someone with the privileges please restart the orange 4 at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=787d9ee7396d ?
784. # [05:50] <devd> Pressing + asks me to login
785. # [05:50] <philor> nice, looking at my first marionette test for the first marionette randomorange that I'm going to get stuck filing, and the first thing it does is set a timeout (danger! danger!), and then it opens a window, doesn't seem to wait for the window to load, and then verifies what loaded in the window by checking the .title
786. # [05:51] <philor> devd: you should be able to log in, if you have access to push but don't have an ldap account, that's a bug
787. # [05:51] <devd> philor: I don't have an ldap account
788. # [05:51] <devd> I had ldap account while I was an intern
789. # [05:51] <devd> but that was hsutdown
790. # [05:51] <devd> *shutdown
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792. # [05:51] <devd> please don't take away my access to try
793. # [05:52] <devd> I am happy with said bug
794. # [05:52] <philor> yeah, but you should have one based on having non-moco access
795. # [05:52] <philor> no, that's not the bug
796. # [05:52] <devd> ohh heh
797. # [05:52] <devd> ok
798. # [05:53] <devd> maybe I do have access .. is there a LDAP reset password thing ?
799. # [05:53] <philor> the bug is that when they moved you over from temporarily having access to the world to being an outsider like me, they either didn't create a new ldap account, or much much more likely, they created one of necessity, but didn't tell you the password
800. # [05:53] <philor> don't think so, we don't have to change our passwords like the poor employees do
801. # [05:53] <devd> hahahaha
802. # [05:53] <devd> I guess thats a #win
803. # [05:54] <devd> all right I will file a bug
804. # [05:54] <Callek> poor employees :(
805. # [05:54] <devd> out of protest for this silliness, I will keep my password password
806. # [05:55] <devd> or hunter2
807. # [05:55] <Callek> devd: correcthorsebatterystaple !
808. # [05:57] <devd> yes it is so long. it must be secure
809. # [05:58] <Callek> devd: http://xkcd.com/936/
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813. # [05:59] <devd> hehe .. I know
814. # [05:59] <devd> philor: do you know what component to file the bug in? It seems you might have gone through this before
815. # [05:59] <Callek> mozilla.org::Server Ops
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818. # [06:00] <philor> I haven't actually gone through it, since I'm old, and got my password mailed to me while we switching from CVS to hg
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824. # [06:03] <devd> but seriously, can someone please restart that test? I don't want to have to wait till the IT folks get around to sending me a nwe password
825. # [06:05] <ewong> devd lookslike your bug's resolved.
826. # [06:06] <devd> yeah .. that was actually stunningly quick
827. # [06:06] <Callek> devd: ok Mochi-4 already re-running, I just triggered mochi-3 to re-run for you
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829. # [06:06] <devd> Callek: thanks!
830. # [06:06] <ewong> horsecorrectbatterystaple
831. # [06:07] <Callek> ewong: o_O you're still watching all of mozilla.org ?
832. # [06:07] <ewong> Callek ;P
833. # [06:07] <ewong> Callek I am such a masochist
834. # [06:07] <Callek> and *I* thought I got a LOT of bugmail
835. # [06:07] <Callek> seriously
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837. # [06:07] <philor> I didn't bother with the m3, because pointerlock-api
838. # [06:08] <Callek> philor: fair, I just didn't see a star tehre, so figured why not
839. # [06:08] <philor> I thought it looked entirely normal and completely as expected, having failed that on linux
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841. # [06:08] <Callek> of course the why not could have been "Linux64 test slaves are overloaded right now"
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845. # [06:10] <devd_afk> thanks everyone!
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848. # [06:17] <philor> linux64 is way better off than poor linux32, though
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852. # [06:19] <philor> linux32 was panting and sweating and doing its best to keep up, and then it got an extra 200 minutes of b2g emulator tests per push
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855. # [06:20] <Callek> philor: now, it snot just panting and trying to keep up, its wearing its shiny new concrete boots and aproaching the 10 mile swim portion of the triathalon
856. # [06:20] <Arc> I'm trying to debug why my plugin isn't working. Currently Firefox is calling NP_GetPluginVersion, NP_GetMIMEDescription, NP_GetValue for pluginNameString and pluginDescriptionString, then NP_Initialize, and nothing more. it never calls the NewProcPtr and I don't know how to debug why
857. # [06:23] <Arc> I have print messages on every function and running firefox from a shell to watch them, that's how I know what's getting called
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888. # [07:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdd3bfd15630 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 808067 - Fix needsBarrier for GC (r=sstangl,jonco)
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890. # [07:07] <hsivonen> jhford: I am now
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896. # [07:13] <philor> oh, neat, did we merge both b2g emulator bustage and Linux PGO bustage to m-c?
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899. # [07:15] <philor> say hello to a little tree closure
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906. # [07:27] <glob> tree closure, hello!
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910. # [07:36] <philor> nobody push during this two or three seconds while I have to reopen to adjust the closure message, or I'll bite you
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916. # [07:40] <capella> and mock them mercilessly :P
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937. # [08:00] <Arc> is there a flag or something for turning on plugin debugging?
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940. # [08:00] <Arc> ive been searching through developer central for hours now trying to find something but all the sample code looks exactly like my plugin
941. # [08:01] <Arc> and since the plugin is getting run in a separate process I can't just run gdb on it
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946. # [08:02] <mcpherrin> Arc: disable out of process plugins?
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948. # [08:02] <Arc> is there a flag for that?
949. # [08:02] <mcpherrin> ther's an about:config flag for that
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955. # [08:04] <Arc> dom.ipc.plugins.enabled?
956. # [08:05] <mcpherrin> sounds right
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958. # [08:06] <mjrosenb> does anyone know what |Maybe <foo> bar| is?
959. # [08:06] <mjrosenb> I know it is somehow different from the normal definition of Maybe that I'm used to from haskell.
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984. # [08:25] <@dolske> Arc: why are you writing a plugin?
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987. # [08:25] <Arc> dolske: because I need to run SIMD instructions and have full access to opengl
988. # [08:26] <Arc> more to the point, because I'm working with a C library that already works, provided I can glue it in
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1012. # [08:43] <edwin> Er, if I've pushed something to inbound, will things explode if I push to central as well?
1013. # [08:43] <edwin> Seems to me it'd make the merge to central later down the line just that little bit more painful
1014. # [08:44] <Callek> edwin: short answer is 'depends on what you touched', long answer is 'is it really really important to land it now rather than have it merged to central in a few hours when edmorley wakes u
1015. # [08:44] <Callek> edwin: especially since pushing now won't get your cset into the Nightly
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1025. # [09:03] <edwin> Callek: I'm taking it "'cause gal said" is a legit answer
1026. # [09:04] <Callek> edwin: yes if gal said to also land it on m-c directly, please do
1027. # [09:04] <Callek> :-)
1028. # [09:04] <Callek> edwin: in general if you dual-land its painless, its usually only painful if you land to m-c but *not* inbound as well ;-)
1029. # [09:05] <Callek> there are exceptions to that rule, but they are rare :-)
1030. # [09:05] <Callek> the general rule though is "why waste the extra machine time by landing both places"
1031. # [09:05] <Callek> edwin: I'll also note, that landing directly to m-c requires you to watch the tree
1032. # [09:05] <Callek> edwin: https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Tree_Rules#mozilla-central_.28Nightly_channel.29
1033. # [09:06] <edwin> =(
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1035. # [09:07] <Callek> edwin: you can also sometimes convince another to watch for you
1036. # [09:07] * Callek will be in bed soon, so I can't accept that responsibility
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1042. # [09:10] <edwin> Fair enough. Looks like it's closed anyway
1043. # [09:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/54021ccbb446 - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_14b4_BUILD1 for changeset FIREFOX_17_0b5_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
1044. # [09:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1548d05581b1 - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_14b4_RELEASE for changeset FIREFOX_17_0b5_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
1045. # [09:16] <glandium> who's sheriffing?
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1047. # [09:16] <Ms2ger> glandium, what's up?
1048. # [09:17] <glandium> Ms2ger: need a backout of nfroyd's push on inbound
1049. # [09:17] <glandium> Ms2ger: (bug 809756)
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1051. # [09:17] <glandium> then i think we can reasonably reopen m-i
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1053. # [09:19] * Ms2ger pulls
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1060. # [09:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82c59210f11f - Ms2ger - Bug 809756 - Backout bug 803665, bug 803668, bug 803666 and bug 803669 on a CLOSED TREE.
1061. # [09:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0d7b394462b - Ms2ger - Merge backout on a CLOSED TREE.
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1068. # [09:32] * NeilAway wonders which bug http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/423e9423d693 and http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36e99ea02c05 were really for
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1070. # [09:33] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, bug 808720
1071. # [09:33] <gaston> werent people supposed to backout and reland in those situations
1072. # [09:33] <gaston> ?
1073. # [09:33] <Ms2ger> Yeah
1074. # [09:33] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ta
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1084. # [09:43] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/happy-bmo-push-day-19/
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1115. # [10:19] <NeilAway> whoa, it's just dawned on me that VIM has an XBL file type definition
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1123. # [10:32] <Yoric> jmaher|afk: I'm back.
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1125. # [10:35] <NeilAway> since when did getComputedStyle stop returning a string?
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1131. # [10:42] <NeilAway> ok, user error
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1154. # [11:12] <NeilAway> bah, async everything is almost impossible to debug
1155. # [11:13] <NeilAway> I want to find out what's causing a mouseover, but of course those are async
1156. # [11:13] <NeilAway> it turns out that the cause of the async mouseover is an async scroll
1157. # [11:13] <NeilAway> so now I need to find out the cause of the async scroll...
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1159. # [11:15] <NeilAway> ... or maybe not
1160. # [11:15] <NeilAway> since now focus is really getting in my way
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1169. # [11:22] <jonco> does anyone know how to interpret the stack trace that you get in tinderbox crashes? i'm not familiar with amd64 calling conventions
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1171. # [11:26] <edmorley> jonco: 301 ted
1172. # [11:26] <edmorley> he's our breakpad guru :-)
1173. # [11:27] <jonco> edmorley: thanks!
1174. # [11:28] <edmorley> jonco: he's EST
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1177. # [11:30] <jonco> edmorley: cool, i'll try and catch him later
1178. # [11:30] <jmaher> Yoric: ping
1179. # [11:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: thank you for the backout earlier
1180. # [11:31] <jmaher> edmorley: that is what friends are for
1181. # [11:31] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I don't suppose if you do another one in the future, you could omit the leading bug number - it just breaks m-cMerge's backout detection :-)
1182. # [11:31] <edmorley> (and adding support for it would cause false positives the other way)
1183. # [11:34] <edmorley> hmm although it seems to have recognised it this time anyway, oh well :-)
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1189. # [11:43] <NeilAway> smaug: when a popup opens under the mouse we get a synthetic mouse over event, is there any easy way to distinguish that from a real mouse over event?
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1192. # [11:48] <@smaug> NeilAway: in a web page?
1193. # [11:48] <@smaug> / chrome js
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1201. # [11:51] <NeilAway> smaug: chrome js
1202. # [11:51] <NeilAway> smaug: although, I think I have a workaround, as I don't get a mousemove event, only a mouseover event
1203. # [11:52] <@smaug> I don't think there is easy way in js to detect synthetic mouse event
1204. # [11:53] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, looks like I need to go with mousemove instead, thanks anyway
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1213. # [12:06] <Yoric> jmaher|afk: pong
1214. # [12:07] <@smaug> oh dear
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1224. # [12:26] <@smaug> is it always possible to just call normally to a vidyo meeting?
1225. # [12:26] <@smaug> I mean without using any vidyo client
1226. # [12:27] * @smaug has never managed to get vidyo running and doesn't actually need it for anything. skype is enough
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1229. # [12:31] <glandium> glob: i'm getting this when bzexport'ing :( http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/1924816
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1231. # [12:32] <Unfocused> smaug: yea, call into the normal conference system, and prefix the vidyo room number with "9"
1232. # [12:32] * Yoric would like to use WebRTC for meetings :)
1233. # [12:34] <@smaug> Unfocused: thanks
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1236. # [12:37] <edmorley> trees reopened
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1245. # [12:49] <Yoric> rnewman: ping
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1247. # [12:52] <nemo> So. I guess Firefox sucking 2,773MiB according to about:memory, of which 2,083 is "heap unclassified" is a bad thing
1248. # [12:53] <nemo> running nightly, start firefox last night, checked on it this morning aaaand
1249. # [12:53] <nemo> I guess there's not much nethercote can do w/ this info
1250. # [12:53] <nemo> hm
1251. # [12:53] <nemo> maybe if I close tabs one at a time
1252. # [12:54] <glandium> nemo: can you paste the entire output?
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1254. # [12:57] <glob|away> glandium, most probably means a user match failed
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1256. # [12:59] <glandium> glob|away: ah,ted's email changed, apparently
1257. # [13:00] <mjrosenb> wtb: real-time log monitoring on tbpl :-p
1258. # [13:01] <nemo> glandium: suuure
1259. # [13:01] <nemo> well
1260. # [13:01] <nemo> glandium: there's some stuff that might be private in the URLs
1261. # [13:01] * nemo strips
1262. # [13:01] <nemo> (not my session, but regardless, looks like a sessionid or 2)
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1265. # [13:03] <nemo> glandium: http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt
1266. # [13:04] <nemo> I just ran update and it is now 2,111 unclassified
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1270. # [13:07] <nemo> glandium: minimise memory usage froze the browser for two minutes while the HD thrashed
1271. # [13:07] <nemo> glandium: and now everything looks normal
1272. # [13:07] <nemo> 749MiB used, no more heap unclassified
1273. # [13:07] <nemo> glandium: probably not ideal user experience ;)
1274. # [13:08] <nemo> glandium: want the new output as well?
1275. # [13:09] <nemo> has a lot more tabs, so a lot more stripping to do
1276. # [13:12] <mjrosenb> philor|away: edmorley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=cebf628dfedb
1277. # [13:13] <edmorley> mjrosenb: sorry, remind me of the context? :-)
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1279. # [13:13] <mjrosenb> edmorley: mochitests/android has been perma-orange for more than a week now.
1280. # [13:14] <mjrosenb> i'm going to re-trigger everything a couple more times
1281. # [13:14] <mjrosenb> but pretty sure i've fixed it
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1283. # [13:14] <edmorley> mjrosenb: oh the js crashes, awesome :-)
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1285. # [13:15] <froydnj> glandium: what pointed up bug 803669 specifically, versus the other bugs in that push?
1286. # [13:15] <edmorley> mjrosenb: sorry normal,y when someone points me at a try tbpl page, it's to look at the oranges, not the green, confused me for a second :-)
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1290. # [13:18] <mjrosenb> also, sincerest apologies to anyone else that is trying to run android tests right now
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1292. # [13:19] <edmorley> mjrosenb: thank you for looking at this btw :-)
1293. # [13:19] <edmorley> this crash occurs 4 times more frequently then the next most common intermittent failure on tbpl
1294. # [13:20] <mjrosenb> edmorley: yeah, i'm confused about that
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1296. # [13:20] <mjrosenb> because as far as I can tell, it has been there since IM landed
1297. # [13:20] <mjrosenb> so why did it suddenly get worse in the past couple of weeks
1298. # [13:20] <edmorley> "compilers suck" ? :-)
1299. # [13:21] <edmorley> although perhaps I am biased by the pgo-only bustage just backed out of trunk
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1301. # [13:22] <mjrosenb> I know there is at least one extra bug lurking in the depths of the code that I'm fixing
1302. # [13:22] <nemo> glandium: oh. and this is the nightly from the 7th if that matters at all. http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e587aa26326e
1303. # [13:22] <nemo> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
1304. # [13:23] <nemo> glandium: anything more you're curious about? otherwise I'll restart to apply the update
1305. # [13:24] <nemo> memory usage dropped further to 640
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1316. # [13:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e97f0b690380 - Joel Maher - Bug 809366 - watcher has high cpu usage on panda boards in racked environment. r=wlach DONTBUILD
1317. # [13:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84b0991ccd97 - Joel Maher - Bug 809364 - sutagent zeroconf is causing jmdns thread to spike cpu on panda boards. r=wlach DONTBUILD
1318. # [13:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2556aa291476 - Joel Maher - Bug 809534 - add support to watcher to support version query. r=wlach DONTBUILD
1319. # [13:37] <nemo> glandium: righto gonna take silence as "no" :-p
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1328. # [13:47] <AryehGregor> (gdb) break nsHTMLEditor::~nsHTMLEditor
1329. # [13:47] <AryehGregor> Breakpoint 3 at 0xb4312c00: nsHTMLEditor::~nsHTMLEditor. (2 locations)
1330. # [13:47] <AryehGregor> Why 2 locations? Can I get it to only break on one of them?
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1335. # [13:50] <AryehGregor> One breakpoint gets set at the start of the destructor and one at the end, it looks like.
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1337. # [13:51] <glandium> froydnj: a stacktrace involving the parser
1338. # [13:51] <glandium> froydnj: (cpu was 100%, likely an infinite loop)
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1345. # [14:00] <froydnj> glandium: oh, so things built fine, but the tests or something went haywire?
1346. # [14:00] <froydnj> glandium: don't suppose you have the stack?
1347. # [14:00] <glandium> froydnj: let me search my history
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1349. # [14:01] <glandium> froydnj: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1924208
1350. # [14:01] <glandium> froydnj: that's during the pgo profile run of firefox between the two build passes
1351. # [14:02] <glandium> froydnj: only on linux (not linux64)
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1353. # [14:04] <froydnj> glandium: hm.
1354. # [14:05] <evilpie> mounir: hey regarding bug 676619
1355. # [14:05] <evilpie> it shouldn't open a filepicker
1356. # [14:06] <glandium> froydnj: which is kind of weird, because what we get after the first pass isn't that weird compile-wise. I mean, i would understand pgo breaking things, but instrumentation stuff?
1357. # [14:06] <evilpie> but instead the default [Opening File XX What should firefox do with this file ? [x] download [ ] open with]
1358. # [14:07] <evilpie> i think the file picker is used when i do right click 'Save As ..'
1359. # [14:08] <froydnj> glandium: yeah, I don't understand that either
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1361. # [14:08] <glandium> froydnj: maybe it exhibits a race condition somewhere
1362. # [14:08] <evilpie> bz_sleep: you too ^ ;)
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1440. # [15:14] <edmorley> mxr down?
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1443. # [15:16] <jonco> edmorley: works for me
1444. # [15:16] <edmorley> me too now, oh well :-)
1445. # [15:16] <edmorley> ta
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1450. # [15:18] <mjrosenb> ok, that was annoying
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1452. # [15:18] <mjrosenb> i saw my name on the screen, but it wasn't highlighted
1453. # [15:18] <mjrosenb> so I spent a good minute trying to find it
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1461. # [15:25] <mounir> evilpie: pong
1462. # [15:26] <mounir> evilpie: can you have a mock for the download box?
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1465. # [15:29] <evilpie> this http://imgur.com/UTM94
1466. # [15:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f116ae5e387 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 809292 - Deal with all source data allocation in one function. r=njn
1467. # [15:31] <evilpie> mounir: back in a few minutes, lunch
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1474. # [15:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1d783e19750 - Ehsan Akhgari - Add the missing file for the test in bug 809654
1475. # [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83e1f7986539 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 809654 - Implement BiquadFilterNode; r=bzbarsky
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1478. # [15:42] <evilpie> mounir: okay
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1496. # [16:03] <mjrosenb> wow, eshan is looking mighty purple today!
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1500. # [16:05] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: it's ok, I cancelled those builds because I forgot to add a file
1501. # [16:05] <@ehsan> also, s/sh/hs/ :)
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1503. # [16:06] <mjrosenb> ehsan: do you highlight on both? :-p
1504. # [16:06] <@ehsan> yep
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1507. # [16:07] <mjrosenb> I take it i'm not the only one to make that typo then
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1510. # [16:09] <@ehsan> no you're not :)
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1573. # [16:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/258b1c1d0d20 - Wes Johnston - Bug 759041 - Bring in Android compatibility libraries. r=blassey
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1575. # [16:54] <@smaug> hsivonen: from Gecko point of view I assume I can just skip all .java
1576. # [16:55] <@smaug> and the small amount of review will be about .cpp only
1577. # [16:56] <bsmedberg> johns: ping
1578. # [16:56] <@smaug> hsivonen: -w patch would be nice in any case
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1591. # [17:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7ad67134127 - Mounir Lamouri - Backed out changeset 3566ba4296f7 because of wrong bug number.
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1593. # [17:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdcb6474f4b4 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 806618 - followup - remove PR_NewLogModule static initializer in nsNativeComponentLoader.cpp; r=ehsan
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1597. # [17:06] <jcranmer> how can people use git?
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1599. # [17:07] <glandium> jcranmer: how can people use mercurial?
1600. # [17:07] <jcranmer> I can't figure out how to switch to another branch in git
1601. # [17:07] <froydnj> git checkout
1602. # [17:07] <jcranmer> instead, I end up in a detached head state
1603. # [17:07] <glandium> jcranmer: git checkout
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1605. # [17:08] <jcranmer> glandium: long story short
1606. # [17:08] <jcranmer> I tried that
1607. # [17:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a9e7aeb184f - Nathan Froyd - Bug 803665 - followup - dispense with nsGlobalWindow::{First,Last}Timeout and nsTimeout::{Next,Previous}; r=bz
1608. # [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9458ded5789b - Nathan Froyd - Bug 803666 - convert nsDocLoader's outstanding status list to use mozilla::LinkedList; r=smaug
1609. # [17:08] <bsmedberg> josh: ping
1610. # [17:08] <jcranmer> and now I have no idea what state my repository is in
1611. # [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f38df5f2448 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 803665 - part 0 - make nsTimeout properly initialize its fields; r=bz
1612. # [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7aa71fa2cf0 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 803668 - convert string bundle caches to use mozilla::LinkedList; r=smontagu
1613. # [17:08] <glandium> jcranmer: if you give it a commit sha1, then you get a detached head
1614. # [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00534980e998 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 803665 - convert nsGlobalWindow's timeout list to use mozilla::LinkedList; r=bz
1615. # [17:08] <glandium> jcranmer: give it a branch name, and it will not be detached
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1617. # [17:08] <jcranmer> I tried that
1618. # [17:08] <jcranmer> it still seems to be borked
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1620. # [17:09] <glandium> jcranmer: what does git status say?
1621. # [17:09] <josh> bsmedberg: pong
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1623. # [17:10] <bsmedberg> josh: is there a way to tell whether a particular <embed> is currently in CTP-blocked mode?
1624. # [17:10] <jcranmer> glandium: not currently on any branch
1625. # [17:10] <bsmedberg> currently looking in the developer console, but I could be in chrome JS if necessary
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1627. # [17:10] <glandium> jcranmer: and nothing else?
1628. # [17:10] <jcranmer> nothing important
1629. # [17:10] <glandium> jcranmer: so what does git checkout master say?
1630. # [17:11] <josh> bsmedberg: from where? normal web content detection via js?
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1632. # [17:11] <josh> you can't really tell from normal content mode but you can make a pretty good guess
1633. # [17:11] <bsmedberg> well, that's what the developer console gives me
1634. # [17:11] <jcranmer> glandium: hmm, that unborked me
1635. # [17:11] <jcranmer> except I want to be on dbaa-ctxts instead
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1637. # [17:11] <josh> bsmedberg: you can probably look at the fallback state from chrome
1638. # [17:11] <glandium> jcranmer: then git checkout dbaa-ctxts
1639. # [17:11] <jcranmer> that's what got me in the mess in the first place
1640. # [17:12] <bsmedberg> josh: is that a property on the embed element?
1641. # [17:12] <jcranmer> "oh, I want to be on that brnach"
1642. # [17:12] <josh> bsmedberg: I'd email dkeeler or jschoenick
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1644. # [17:12] <glandium> jcranmer: is it really a branch?
1645. # [17:12] <bsmedberg> ok
1646. # [17:12] <jcranmer> "hey look, that branch doesn't exist since I never bothered to pull it from remote"
1647. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> ok
1648. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> wtf
1649. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=16853576&tree=Try
1650. # [17:12] <jcranmer> "instead, I'll just create a new branch and keep you from pulling it remotely"
1651. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> e:\builds\moz2_slave\try-w32\build\dom\base\nsDOMClassInfo.h(120) : error C2259: 'nsDOMClassInfo' : cannot instantiate abstract class
1652. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> due to following members:
1653. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> 'nsresult nsIXPCScriptable::GetClassName(char **)' : is abstract
1654. # [17:12] <glandium> jcranmer: what does "git branch -a" say?
1655. # [17:12] <@bz_sleep> How can that possibly happen?
1656. # [17:12] <josh> bsmedberg: the patches on bug 800018 might give good hints for how to do it
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1658. # [17:13] <@bz_sleep> Given that nsDOMClassInfo does NS_DECL_NSIXPCSCRIPTABLE ?
1659. # [17:13] <jcranmer> heh, we need to clean up our remote branches a bit
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1663. # [17:13] <@bz_sleep> (and only on Windows, mind you)
1664. # [17:13] <bsmedberg> bz_sleep: I'd be willing to bet this is Windows redefining GetClassName to GetClassNameW
1665. # [17:14] <bsmedberg> halfway through your translation unit
1666. # [17:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea3dd343ee5e - Mats Palmgren - Bug 685012 - Implement page-break-inside:avoid in layout. r=fantasai,sr=roc
1667. # [17:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbf63c3f34e9 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 685012 - Implement page-break-inside:avoid in the style system. r=dbaron
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1669. # [17:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac1fdaa261f2 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 798867 - Use the content offset that GetFrameForNodeOffset returns. r=roc
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1671. # [17:15] <@roc> yay
1672. # [17:15] <jcranmer> wait, half thoes branches are gone... ???
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1681. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fa862c22f51 - Mike Conley - Bug 794752 - Downloads toolbar button changes size the first time it is clicked. r=mak.
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1684. # [17:20] <@bz_sleep> bsmedberg: hmm
1685. # [17:20] <@bz_sleep> bsmedberg: Any idea where I find which translation unit I'm in?
1686. # [17:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a726e298171 - Marty Rosenberg - Ensure that we are using the same IonCompartment throughout the lifetime of an AFC(bug 792873, r=jandem)
1687. # [17:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3136d5ea2399 - Marty Rosenberg - Don't attempt to verify that the stack will be aligned, because it may not be. (bug 807156, r=djvj)
1688. # [17:21] <@bz_sleep> bsmedberg: but yes, that seems more plausible than anything else here!
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1690. # [17:22] <@bz_sleep> aha!
1691. # [17:22] * @bz_sleep bets he knows where the problem is, goes to fix it
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1693. # [17:22] <@bz> bsmedberg: thanks!
1694. # [17:22] <jfkthame> must be nice to fix stuff before waking up
1695. # [17:24] <erick> I've been seeing build error |fatal error: 'cpuid.h' file not found| since yesterday, has anyone seen this before/know a warkaround? (see http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1925604 for more details)
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1697. # [17:24] <froydnj> jfkthame: sleep coding is considered very useful, but also highly dangerous. to be used only by experts
1698. # [17:24] <@bz> jfkthame: ;)
1699. # [17:25] <padenot> erick: probably my fault
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1702. # [17:25] <padenot> erick: looking now
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1704. # [17:25] <padenot> erick: which OSX version exactly?
1705. # [17:25] <glandium> erick: what is your xcode version?
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1712. # [17:28] <erick> padenot, glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1925610
1713. # [17:29] <mounir> davidb: ping
1714. # [17:29] <davidb> mounir: pong
1715. # [17:29] <mounir> davidb: about using opacity for placeholder
1716. # [17:29] <mounir> do you have any other comment that the opacity's value?
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1721. # [17:30] <davidb> mounir: I went looking to see if windows 8 added an os config for placeholders styling… but didn't see anything
1722. # [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5272e198951c - Bobby Holley - Bug 809290 - Tests. r=bz
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1724. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ec4fbe7040f - Bobby Holley - Bug 809290 - Fix nsLocation::CheckURL. r=bz
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1728. # [17:32] <davidb> mounir: it is going to be impossible to please everyone. i think we may want to file a follow up for some kind of gui for setting options, as per faaborg in 618260
1729. # [17:33] <davidb> mounir: i'll add another comment
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1735. # [17:34] <mounir> davidb: I agree with can't please everyone
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1737. # [17:35] <mounir> but I think opacity is the right way to go because developers will have placeholder working out of the box
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1741. # [17:36] <erick> padenot: OSX 10.7.4 | 11.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.4.0: Mon Apr 9 19:32:15 PDT 2012; root:xnu-1699.26.8~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 | BuildVersion:11E53
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1743. # [17:37] <vlad> I wonder how long until I train my fingers to not type 'nsnull'
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1745. # [17:37] <padenot> erick: yep. you should have cpuid.h anyways
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1747. # [17:39] <froydnj> vlad: just set up your editor to autocorrect
1748. # [17:39] <vlad> heh
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1752. # [17:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1437578c371f - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 809459 - Disable SmsRequest on Android to fix a startup crash. r=dougt,bustage
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1755. # [17:43] <erick> padenot: I'm seeing cpuid.h under | /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.7.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/i386/cpuid.h |, and I'm building for x86, could it be that it's not searching that path?
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1763. # [17:44] <padenot> of course I don't have a mac right now to debug this.
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1766. # [17:46] <erick> alright, it seems like I"m missing all sorts of x86 related headers. I'll see if I can sort this out, no worries
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1785. # [17:50] <BenWa> glandium: I got a # of constructor regression in http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8989ca9a3c6. Are those static constructor counts?
1786. # [17:50] <rnewman> Yoric: what's up? (intermittent afk, fill scrollback for me!)
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1788. # [17:51] <glandium> BenWa: did you check the graph? because the regression ranges are almost always wrong on that metric
1789. # [17:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec3ad127d567 - Jim Chen - Bug 761287 - Fix NDKr8 build by including Android sigcontext instead of using our own; r=ehsan
1790. # [17:51] <glandium> BenWa: (but yes, it's static constructor count)
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1793. # [17:52] <jwir3> does firefox on mac os/x have the single 'Firefox' button instead of the menus, like on windows and gnome?
1794. # [17:52] <jwir3> I mean, is that an option?
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1797. # [17:53] <mounir> jwir3: the menu is in the menu bar in MacOS
1798. # [17:53] <mounir> which is at the top of the screen
1799. # [17:53] <mounir> not in the app window
1800. # [17:53] <mounir> so no
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1802. # [17:53] <BenWa> Alright :)
1803. # [17:53] <_AxS_> jwir3: in short, no, due to integration with aqua
1804. # [17:53] <jwir3> mounir, _AxS_: ah, ok.
1805. # [17:53] <jwir3> thanks
1806. # [17:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9fa565fbd35 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 806147 - fix reftests that use setTimeout but not reftest-wait to include reftest-wait; r=dholbert
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1813. # [17:58] <riadh> Hi guys! I need some help, could any one told me please how get all data from nsIObjectOutputStream object, I'm using context->Serialize(nsIObjectOutputStream *, JSScript *) to Serialize a JSScript, and this should return a nsIObjectOutputStream, But I couldn't figure out how to get the data in the nsIObjectOutputStream( I want later to save data to a file)
1814. # [17:58] <riadh> '
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1816. # [17:59] <_AxS_> ...if it's a real stream (dunno if it is), and you're using C++ , you could just stream it to your target..
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1822. # [18:01] <riadh> _AxS_: I'm not sure if it's a real stream
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1847. # [18:10] <jez> Does anyone know whether Gecko is likely to get support for a box-sizing CSS property that applies to table cells?
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1851. # [18:12] <davidb> mounir: commented
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1856. # [18:14] <_AxS_> jez: Usage of table cells are dead, aren't they?
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1859. # [18:15] <jez> nevermind, i see it was fixed in gecko 16.0
1860. # [18:15] <jez> _AxS_: heck no, not for tabular data
1861. # [18:15] <jez> they're very useful
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1863. # [18:15] <_AxS_> jez: Oh, right, what they're meant for :)
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1865. # [18:16] <jez> well, all those CSS layout advocates are coming back to tables for layout anyway, with the new flexbox. it just has a new name.
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1868. # [18:17] <Arc> in .mozconfig how do you add gcc flags like -DPLUGIN_LOGGING ?
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1874. # [18:20] <evilpie> i use so this should work with this,t oo mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j8"
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1885. # [18:23] <Arc> evilpie: thats a make flag, not a gcc flag
1886. # [18:23] <Arc> (i already tried it just in case)
1887. # [18:23] <_AxS_> Arc: sec, i'm looking up what gentoo does to enable custom cflags
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1889. # [18:24] <Arc> ah good idea i didnt even think of that
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1892. # [18:26] <_AxS_> ..huh apparently we don't do anything, we strip out cflags if they don't match a predefined list. So I guess something like ./configure CFLAGS="-DPLUGIN_LOGGING" ..should work
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1898. # [18:28] <Arc> or CFLAGS="-DPLUGIN_LOGGING" make -f client.mk ?
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1902. # [18:29] <_AxS_> yep that too -- although ./configure iirc will propagate the CFLAGS of your environment through the makefiles. At least, that's usually how it works
1903. # [18:29] <Arc> except when make -f client.mk - it runs configure for you afais
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1905. # [18:30] <_AxS_> could be; with gentoo i'm fortunate enough to not have to ever touch the mozilla build system directly :)
1906. # [18:30] <Arc> im deep enough down the rabbit hole now that I don't want to try debugging mozilla's build system on top of it all
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1909. # [18:30] <Arc> i'm on gentoo too, but i want to build with debug symbols with the same source im looking at so i can gdb step with some level of confidence
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1913. # [18:31] <_AxS_> Arc: CFLAGS+="-DWHATEVER" ebuild /path/to/firefox.ebuild clean install qmerge
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1916. # [18:31] <_AxS_> Arc: with USE="custom-cflags" enabled otherwise it'll get stripped
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1919. # [18:32] <Arc> _AxS_: I don't have a firefox-9999.ebuild
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1921. # [18:32] <_AxS_> Arc: Ah, yes that'd hold you back.
1922. # [18:32] <Arc> besides i dont want to actually /install/ this. i just want it for local user debugging until the plugin works
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1924. # [18:32] <_AxS_> ..and the mozilla overlay doesn't have it either.. /me notes to make one
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1929. # [18:33] <Arc> NP_PluginFuncs->newp isn't getting called after NP_Initialize. I've been trying to debug why for two days now
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1933. # [18:34] <Arc> i have plugns being run in same process, running firefox under gdb, nothings crashing, no errors getting reported, the plugin instance just isn't getting started
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1936. # [18:34] <sicking> janv: i'm in the conferance room on the 2nd floor
1937. # [18:34] <_AxS_> Arc: .... NPAPI version conflict auto-excluding it?
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1939. # [18:35] <Arc> NPAPI version conflict?
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1943. # [18:35] <froydnj> love analyzing 0.5GB refcount logs
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1945. # [18:36] <@smaug> Unfocused: ping
1946. # [18:36] <@smaug> what did you say about vidyo earlier today
1947. # [18:36] <_AxS_> Arc: plugins are built against a certain NPAPI version, browsers will exclude loading if the version is incompatible with the browser ... i'm not completely familiar with it but i do know i had to recompile some old plugins with a newer NPAPI to get them working against FF4
1948. # [18:36] <@smaug> nm
1949. # [18:36] <sicking> baku: where are you guys sitting?
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1952. # [18:37] <Arc> _AxS_: im setting NP_PluginFuncs.version to (NP_VERSION_MAJOR << 8) | NP_VERSION_MINOR
1953. # [18:37] <baku> sicking, second floor
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1955. # [18:37] <baku> sicking, M
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1957. # [18:37] <baku> where we had the indexDb+Worker meeting
1958. # [18:37] <sicking> baku: is that a conferance room?
1959. # [18:37] <Arc> and fresh compile using npapi-sdk which, i checked, actually is identical to the headers that came with gentoo's xulrunner
1960. # [18:38] <baku> sicking, no... it's business room. we are using janv laptop.
1961. # [18:38] <Arc> but yea its something stupid like that that I'm looking for. one small stupid thing that firefox for whatever reason is silently rejecting the plugin on with no debug output
1962. # [18:38] <Arc> hence -DPLUGIN_LOGGING
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1964. # [18:39] <_AxS_> Arc: NPN_version function, in your plugin , plus make sure you've installed a recent 'net-misc/npapi-sdk' if you're not embedding npapi.h directly
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1968. # [18:39] <Arc> _AxS_: NPN_version?
1969. # [18:39] <_AxS_> Arc: the function which is called back by the browser to determine version compatibility
1970. # [18:40] <Arc> NPN functions should be provided by the browser for the plugin to call, shouldn't they?
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1972. # [18:40] <Arc> I'm not currently calling any NPN_* functions
1973. # [18:40] <_AxS_> Arc: except for this one, iirc, yes.
1974. # [18:41] <mounir> davidb: did you meant to leave the review request as-is?
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1976. # [18:43] <Arc> im trying to find in firebreath where this is done..
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1983. # [18:46] <_AxS_> Arc: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/NPN_Version , especially the "note" at the bottom
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1988. # [18:47] <_AxS_> Arc: often 'npunix.c' or similar is included in plugin codebases, this is usually where it's defined (automatically, according to NP_VERSION within npapi.h)
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1990. # [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4577eb79466 - Edwin Flores - Bug 809904 - Create gralloc images in ImageContainerChild::CreateImage r=nical
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1993. # [18:49] <Arc> _AxS_: so..... the plugin calls this function, or provides this function?
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1999. # [18:51] <_AxS_> Arc: it's complicated. As i understand it, essentially, the browser calls this function, but it's run within the plugin. The plugin doesn't explicitly call the function though, just define it.
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2003. # [18:52] <Arc> so, define it, or pass a reference to it to NP_NetscapeFuncs during Initialize?
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2007. # [18:53] <Arc> is the browser looking it up in the plugins symbol table or expecting it to get set, because ive never seen plugin source that sets this
2008. # [18:53] <_AxS_> Arc: define it. or grep for a definition of it that exists already; i'd be surprised if there isn't one
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2010. # [18:53] <Arc> i have been over the last few minutes, i havent seen one
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2013. # [18:54] <_AxS_> Arc: what's the plugin codebase you're working from? maybe i can take a look..
2014. # [18:54] <Arc> i dont have npunix.c on my system, in any project, including mozilla's source
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2016. # [18:55] <Arc> http://hg.pysoy.org/websoy
2017. # [18:55] <Arc> im using firebreath as a guide
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2020. # [18:55] <_AxS_> Arc: 'k sec.
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2023. # [18:55] <Arc> if you want C files to look at you'll need valac to generate them, they'll appear in build/src
2024. # [18:56] <Arc> im looking at firebreath's source as a guide, since it apparently works, though is just for c++ plugins
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2028. # [18:58] <_AxS_> Arc: yeah i'm not familiar with vala at all .. it could be this is (supposed to be) handled via npapi.vapi , in terms of code generation
2029. # [18:58] <Arc> i wrote npapi.vapi and the only thing vapi files do is map from vala/genie's OO calls to C
2030. # [18:59] <Arc> also, this /used/ to work
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2032. # [18:59] <Arc> firefox 4 era, i wish i could find a download for firefox 4 to test the current code on
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2039. # [19:00] <Arc> im just looking for any example anywhere of any plugin that sets this and not finding it
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2045. # [19:01] <Arc> i have a few examples, plus the whole mozilla-central hg repo on my filesystem, and locate isn't showing any npunix.c
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2059. # [19:03] <_AxS_> Arc: npunix.c isn't part of mozilla-central at all. If you google (and google, and google) you'll find some plugin SDKs somewhere in developer.mozilla.org which contain npunix.c and others.. they're not easy to find.
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2064. # [19:03] <_AxS_> Arc: if you want a C example, take a look at the codebase for 'freewrl' , in src/plugins/
2065. # [19:03] <Arc> so where is npunix.c suppose to be copied from?
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2067. # [19:04] <Arc> src/plugins of what repo?
2068. # [19:04] <Arc> oh got it
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2070. # [19:05] <johns> bsmedberg: pong
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2073. # [19:05] <davidb> mounir: yeah, I'm curious about windows hcm
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2077. # [19:05] <_AxS_> Arc: that particular plugin is compatible with current firefox all the way back to FF1.5 (maybe earlier)..
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2080. # [19:06] <bsmedberg> johns: if I have a plugin element in the web console, is there a way to tell what its CTP state is?
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2083. # [19:06] <bsmedberg> johns: specifically I was debugging https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=809846#c5
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2085. # [19:07] <johns> bsmedberg: Yeah, |obj instanceof Components.interfaces.nsIObjectLoadingContent; obj.displayedType; obj.pluginFallbackState|
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2087. # [19:07] <froydnj> jlebar: is it a known bug that Static{Ref,Auto}Ptr don't behave as described in their documentation?
2088. # [19:07] <johns> bsmedberg: If it has loaded as a plugin, displayedType will be 2
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2091. # [19:07] <jlebar> froydnj: Could you be a bit more specific?
2092. # [19:07] <bsmedberg> johns: does that require chrome privs?
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2094. # [19:08] <johns> bsmedberg: I don't believe so
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2098. # [19:08] <froydnj> jlebar: I still see a static constructor (to atexit() register ~Static${TYPE}PTR) in --enable-optimize --disable-debug builds, x86-64 GCC 4.4
2099. # [19:08] <johns> bsmedberg: |obj.pluginFallbackType| requires chrome, displayedType does not
2100. # [19:09] <bsmedberg> k
2101. # [19:09] <froydnj> jlebar: maybe the right thing happens with newer versions of GCC?
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2104. # [19:09] <mounir> davidb: I think I replied in the bug
2105. # [19:09] <mkaply> IF something gets approved for aurora, I can immediately checkin, correct?
2106. # [19:09] <johns> bsmedberg: if |displayedType == Components.interfaces.nsIObjectLoadingContent.TYPE_NULL| it is in fallback (including any custom handlers like CTP), in which case pluginFallbackType is relevant
2107. # [19:10] <davidb> mounir: r=me
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2109. # [19:10] <froydnj> mkaply: yes
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2111. # [19:10] <davidb> mounir: good to get Ux eyes on that change.
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2114. # [19:10] <jlebar> froydnj: I'm not sure about the static constructor / destructors. That may be a bug.
2115. # [19:11] <johns> bsmedberg: I commented on 809846, it doesn't look like our fault - the JS just doesn't wait around for flash to start
2116. # [19:11] <mounir> davidb: do you know anyone from UX who would be able to look at that?
2117. # [19:11] <froydnj> jlebar: ok, I'll file a bug, then
2118. # [19:11] <johns> (at least on jango)
2119. # [19:11] <Arc> _AxS_: ok their npunix.c has a mozilla copyright header, but where did they copy it from?
2120. # [19:11] <mounir> davidb: my personal experience is that as soon as UX is involved, it takes ages
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2122. # [19:11] <davidb> mounir: ok ping them after landing.
2123. # [19:12] <davidb> :)
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2125. # [19:12] <mounir> davidb: I guess that means "no" :)
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2128. # [19:12] <davidb> mounir: oh sorry missed your earlier q…
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2130. # [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e655c9d59704 - Dave Hylands - Bug 809186 - Recognize .aac file extensions, and the audio/aac-adts mimetype for b2g. r=doublec
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2134. # [19:14] <_AxS_> Arc: as i said, originally it came from a gecko plugin SDK that's who knows where on mozilla servers
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2136. # [19:14] <_AxS_> Arc: actually, there might still be links and docs for the Gecko plugin sdk ...
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2139. # [19:14] <davidb> mounir: Boriss I think
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2141. # [19:14] <davidb> (Jennifer)
2142. # [19:14] <mounir> davidb: ok
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2144. # [19:14] <mounir> will ask her after landing
2145. # [19:15] <bsmedberg> johns: hrm, how hard is it to provide a patch for SoundManager2 ?
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2148. # [19:15] <johns> bsmedberg: You mean a workaround on our end, or to upstream?
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2150. # [19:15] <_AxS_> Arc: Anyways, NPN_Version's public stub is defined in npapi.vapi on line 753 .. looks like it's up to the project to define it. but it's probably defined as 'Version' within namespace NPN somewhere in your example
2151. # [19:15] <bsmedberg> upstream
2152. # [19:16] <johns> bsmedberg: I was reading through the SoundManager code a little, and I have no idea - there's a lot of variables named "_s" "o" "_oMC" and so on, even in the un-minified version :-/
2153. # [19:16] <bsmedberg> hehe
2154. # [19:16] <bsmedberg> ok, I'll email the maintainer
2155. # [19:16] <Arc> ok so it looks like the browser is then just looking up the symbol table...
2156. # [19:16] <Mook_as> Arc: probably from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/modules/plugin/samples/default/unix/npunix.c
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2161. # [19:17] <johns> bsmedberg: I see references to flashblock, so if we could point him at detecting CTP I would assume it wouldn't be too hard. The bigger issue is getting all the affected sites to update their probably-ancient copies of SoundManager2
2162. # [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef57a12da1fe - Dave Hylands - Bug 794599 - Add a preference to disable logging. r=bzbarsky
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2170. # [19:20] <_AxS_> Arc: found where npunix.c is located on the mozilla servers: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla2.0/source/modules/plugin/sdk/samples/unixprinting/npunix.c
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2176. # [19:22] <janv> http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2009-09-08/ipdl-the-inter-process-protocol-definition-language/
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2204. # [19:36] <bsmedberg> johns: heh, you totally misunderstood my email ;-)
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2206. # [19:36] <bsmedberg> johns: I was writing that to Scott the soundmanager2 owner
2207. # [19:37] <johns> bsmedberg: Eh? Which email?
2208. # [19:37] <bsmedberg> johns: "SoundManager2 integration"
2209. # [19:37] <johns> bsmedberg: I didn't get no stinkin' email! Did you CC the wrong john? :-P
2210. # [19:37] <bsmedberg> could be
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2212. # [19:37] <bsmedberg> oh, yes I did
2213. # [19:37] <bsmedberg> crap, another layer of confusion
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2218. # [19:38] <bsmedberg> johns: "johns" autocompleted to Scott Johnson in tbird
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2220. # [19:39] <johns> bsmedberg: We just need a mailing list of all john(son)s in the company you can CC when you need an answer from some john
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2247. # [19:48] <sfink> Dear John Collective <ohsomanyjohns@mozilla.com>: ...need help combating the David Collective....should we blacklist the Jacks?...penalties for using all lowercase 'john' to refer to sanitary facilities...
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2249. # [19:50] <froydnj> jesup: media/mtransport bugs get filed as part of webrtc, right?
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2251. # [19:51] <jesup|laptop> froydnj: yes, or webrtc/networking
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2254. # [19:51] <froydnj> jesup|laptop: great, thanks
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2256. # [19:51] <@ted> ekr: i got my package :)
2257. # [19:51] <ekr> cool!
2258. # [19:51] <ekr> Is your name spelled right?
2259. # [19:51] <@ted> this time FedEx did a 180
2260. # [19:52] <@ted> they dropped it on my doorstep without even ringing the bell
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2262. # [19:52] <@ted> yes :)
2263. # [19:52] <@ted> ballsy move on your part ;-)
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2271. # [19:54] <jesup|laptop> ekr++
2272. # [19:54] <ekr> thanks for all your help! Enjoy!
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2278. # [19:56] <@ted> hm, facebook isn't loading for me
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2280. # [19:56] <@ted> although i just view-source'd it and LOLed that they have a script that defines an object called Bootloader
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2286. # [19:57] <froydnj> ted: facebook is the new os
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2290. # [19:58] <gcp> They can call their new laptop a FaceBook.
2291. # [19:58] <gcp> ...wait
2292. # [19:58] <froydnj> zing!
2293. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e14e87e07c4 - Honza Bambas - Bug 734062 - stale image in the image cache when an updated version is fetched into HTML5 offline cache in background, r=joedrew
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2295. # [19:58] <jfkthame> gcp: and the handheld version will be a FacePalm
2296. # [19:59] <froydnj> jfkthame++
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2319. # [20:05] <Arc> _AxS_: ok. so I added NPN_Version, confirmed its in the symbol table, put a print statement at the top of it, and... firefox isn't calling it.
2320. # [20:05] <bsmedberg> wait what? NPN_ are browser functions
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2322. # [20:06] <_AxS_> Arc: did you do so by implementing the 'NPN::Version' function declaration that's already in npapi.vapi ?
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2326. # [20:07] <Arc> void NPN_Version (gint* plugin_major, gint* plugin_minor, gint* browser_major, gint* browser_minor);
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2333. # [20:08] <Arc> _AxS_: since its prototyped in npapi.h gcc would have complained if i defined it as something incompatibile
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2335. # [20:09] <_AxS_> Arc: yeah that won't work, per se. If you look at the npunix.c example or others from that link I provided, the funciton is assigned to the NPNetscapeFuncs struct, specifically the 'version' element
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2337. # [20:10] <Arc> ah so..
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2340. # [20:10] <sicking> mayhemer: ping
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2343. # [20:10] <_AxS_> Arc: and as i mentioned, it's already declared (but afaict not defined) in npapi.vapi around like 735 or so.. I'm guessing you didn't write npapi.vapi right?
2344. # [20:11] <Arc> I did write npapi.vapi. that's basically the same as a .h file
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2346. # [20:11] <_AxS_> AHok. well, when you did, you defined NPN::Version there which is using the same fn declaration as this function is supposed to have... :)
2347. # [20:11] <Arc> i actually had to comment that out to define it in the code
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2349. # [20:12] <Arc> so I'm looking at the npunix.c file and I only see NP_Version getting defined. I don't see it getting assigned to the NPNetscapeFuncs struct
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2358. # [20:13] <Arc> nor does NPNetscapeFuncs hase a field for it.
2359. # [20:13] <Arc> uint16_t version;
2360. # [20:14] <Arc> that's what version is, not a delegate
2361. # [20:15] <Arc> grep -r NPN_Version mozilla-central also shows this only appearing once, in npapi.h
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2365. # [20:16] <Arc> if mozilla was looking it up in the symbol table it should appear as a string somewhere in the code
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2378. # [20:22] <mayhemer> sicking: pong
2379. # [20:22] <_AxS_> Arc: uint16_t version is what NPN_Version is being assigned to, in the SDK examples tho -- see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla2.0/source/modules/plugin/sdk/samples/common/np_entry.cpp
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2381. # [20:23] <Arc> NPN_Version(int* plugin_major, int* plugin_minor, int* netscape_major, int* netscape_minor)
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2383. # [20:23] <sicking> mayhemer: hey, so in order to hook into the new temporary storage stuff, the main thing that we need to change is to have a separate sqlite file per origin
2384. # [20:23] <Arc> that prototype isn't uint16_t
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2386. # [20:23] <_AxS_> Arc: i didn't say it wasn't messed up...
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2388. # [20:24] <mayhemer> sicking: ok
2389. # [20:24] <sicking> mayhemer: and then save the files in a new location
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2391. # [20:25] <Mook_as> Arc: as bsmedberg mentioned, NPN_* are "navigator" (err, browser, these days) implemented functions; NPP_* are plugin implemented functions. NPN_* are the APIs you call, NPP_* are the ones the browser calls.
2392. # [20:25] <sicking> mayhemer: it's probably not worth rewriting to using that new structure until the temporary storage stuff is ready, so your initial cleanup probably shouldn't restructure to using separate sqlite files
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2396. # [20:25] <sicking> mayhemer: but i figured it might be worth knowing
2397. # [20:25] <Arc> Mook_as: I know, which is why this is confusing the hell out of me
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2399. # [20:25] <sicking> janv: the above is correct, right?
2400. # [20:26] <jcranmer> how much longer before we can we rip out autoconf, I wonder
2401. # [20:26] <janv> yeah
2402. # [20:26] <mayhemer> sicking: oh, that's a good summary! thanks, I'll keep thati n mind
2403. # [20:26] <qDot> Let's move to cmake!
2404. # [20:27] <jcranmer> let's not, I hate cmake almost as much as autoconf
2405. # [20:27] <Arc> Mook_as: _AxS_ is telling me that I need to implement NPN_Version within my plugin and assign the pointer to it in NP_NetscapeFuncs->version... which is broken beyond all comprehension of sanity
2406. # [20:27] <bsmedberg> Arc: that is absolutely not correct
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2408. # [20:28] * qDot knows many many many horrible things about cmake from his last life as a robotics engineer turned build engineer. :c
2409. # [20:28] <bsmedberg> don't modify NP_NetscapeFuncs
2410. # [20:29] <@roc> hmm
2411. # [20:29] <@roc> my laptop was running a bit slow
2412. # [20:29] <@roc> on a hunch I tried unplugging it and plugging it back in
2413. # [20:29] <Arc> bsmedberg: ok. so backing out to a realm of semi-sanity, the problem I'm having is my plugin's NP_Initialize is run. I copy pointers to my instance functions to NP_PluginFuncs, and.. nothing. newp isn't getting called.
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2415. # [20:29] <@roc> it sped up a lot
2416. # [20:29] <sfink> it was tangled up in its leash?
2417. # [20:29] <@ehsan> roc: your processor was probably down to 100MHz or something ;)
2418. # [20:29] <@roc> yeah
2419. # [20:29] <bsmedberg> Arc: does it show up in about:plugins with the MIME types you expect?
2420. # [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ab953bd0729 - Benoit Girard - Bug 809448 - Make ns(Int)Region ToString const. r=bas
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2422. # [20:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ef1038baaf1 - Benoit Girard - Bug 794337 - Properly alias canvas image data when using Quartz compositing. r=jrmuizel
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2426. # [20:31] <Arc> bsmedberg: yep. i have a print statement at the top of every function. i see that, in order: NP_GetPluginVersion, NP_GetMIMEDescription, NP_GetValue for name and description, and then NP_Initialize
2427. # [20:31] <_AxS_> Arc: i take back the pointer assignment statement. Also, I don't know -why- NPN_Version is important as, as you've seen, there isn't a particular declaration of it in npfunctions.h or within the NPNetscapeFuncs struct ..
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2429. # [20:32] <Arc> _AxS_: my gut says "Anachronism"
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2431. # [20:32] <_AxS_> Arc: Maybe it's something left over from much older NPAPI ... *shrug* .. it's also still listed in the Gecko Plugin SDK docs
2432. # [20:33] <tanvi> can you add two users to a patch?
2433. # [20:33] <Arc> well as i said, its not getting called.
2434. # [20:33] <Arc> good guess tho, i'm sure its something like that
2435. # [20:34] <_AxS_> Arc: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko_Plugin_API_Reference/Initialization_and_Destruction ..mentions it
2436. # [20:34] <Mook_as> Arc: what isn't getting called? NPN_Version? Something else?
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2438. # [20:34] <tanvi> probably not, because then hg blame wouldn't work so well
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2440. # [20:35] <Arc> Mook_as: I defined NPN_Version in the plugin as _AxS_ suggested, I verified its in the symbol table, its not getting called, and im not surprised because grep -r NPN_Version mozilla-central shows that it only appears once in npapi.h
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2442. # [20:35] <Arc> if mozilla was looking it up in the symbol table it'd have to appear as a string somewhere
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2445. # [20:36] <Arc> likewise in the ipc plugins its not appearing, so it cant be required
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2447. # [20:36] <Mook_as> Arc: right, NPN_Version is for you to call (if you wanted to), to see, umm, what version the browser claims itself to be in NPNetscapeFuncs.version
2448. # [20:36] <Arc> yea.
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2450. # [20:37] <Arc> if it was the other way around I'd expect to find something like PR_FindFunctionSymbol(mLibrary, "NPN_Version")
2451. # [20:37] <Mook_as> (that is, it seems to read http://code.google.com/p/npapi-sdk/source/browse/trunk/headers/npfunctions.h#161 )
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2456. # [20:40] <_AxS_> Mook_as: in the example SDK codes, NPN_Version is actually assigning values to all the pointers. Ie, in npunix.c from ..a while ago: *plugin_major = NP_VERSION_MAJOR; *plugin_minor = NP_VERSION_MINOR; *netscape_major = gNetscapeFuncs.version >> 8; *netscape_minor = gNetscapeFuncs.version & 0xFF;
2457. # [20:40] <tanvi> smaug - can i carry over the r+ on the mochitests in bug 803225, or do you want to take another look at it?
2458. # [20:41] <Arc> I ran this (with out of process plugins turned off) under gdb, the NP_Initialize breakpoint was hit by my plugin, but it looks like most of what follows (stepping through it) is backing out, without debug symbols or plugin logging i can't easily see why
2459. # [20:41] <Mook_as> _AxS_: yes; the _plugin_ provides those pointers, because it wants to ask what version the browser is running. That call never goes across to the browser (since all the data is already available in the struct, from NP_Initialize)
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2461. # [20:41] <@smaug> tanvi: let me look at it quite later today
2462. # [20:42] <tanvi> okay, thanks!
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2464. # [20:42] <_AxS_> Mook_as: ... ok so this is just a useless function then, since gNetscapeFuncs.version and NP_VERSION_* are available anywhere we want in the plugin
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2466. # [20:42] <Arc> looks like it
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2469. # [20:43] <Mook_as> _AxS_: yep, it's just a convenience wrapper
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2474. # [20:44] <_AxS_> Arc: i apologize for leading you astray.
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2479. # [20:45] <Arc> _AxS_: not like i could have thought of a better possibility during this time lol
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2481. # [20:46] <mbrubeck> Anyone else seeing errors like this? "pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/projects/elm
2482. # [20:46] <daleharvey> does anyone know whats up with http://pastie.org/5347341 when building b2g desktop?
2483. # [20:46] <mbrubeck> remote: ssh: connect to host hg.mozilla.org port 22: Bad file number"
2484. # [20:46] <Arc> Mook_as: can you think of any other reason why firefox would call NP_Initialize and then just stop?
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2486. # [20:47] <Arc> or possibly, anyone know where one could get a linux 64bit binary for firefox 4?
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2490. # [20:48] <Arc> this code did work before. i haven't touched it in awhile, now it doesn't, so being able to try it on the firefox i was using at the time would confirm that its been a change in firefox rather than me messing up something in the plugin source since
2491. # [20:48] <mbrubeck> pulling from elm works just fine but "out" and "push" fail...
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2496. # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6918909c907d - Gabriele Svelto - Bug 808756 - Adjust all memory-pressure observers to cope with the new low-memory-no-forward events. r=jlebar
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2501. # [20:52] <mjrosenb> philor: bug gone?
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2504. # [20:54] <philor> mjrosenb: BUG GONE!!!!!!!!
2505. # [20:54] <RyanVM> :woowoo:
2506. # [20:54] <mjrosenb> :)
2507. # [20:54] <mjrosenb> sorry that took so long
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2509. # [20:56] <catlee> what does a dark-gray tab mean?
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2518. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0346ce24bb4c - Seth Fowler - Bug 809181 - Test. r=dholbert
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2520. # [20:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7f2cbe6e161 - Seth Fowler - Bug 809181 - SVGDocumentWrapper::UpdateViewportBounds() should check if anything has changed instead of relying on callers. r=dholbert
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2524. # [20:59] <catlee> jrmuizel_: is http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/tabfading.ogv normal? (look at the left-most tab)
2525. # [21:00] <jrmuizel_> no
2526. # [21:00] <jrmuizel_> catlee: that is a bug
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2528. # [21:01] <catlee> jrmuizel_: known? or should I fileit?
2529. # [21:01] <jrmuizel_> catlee: file
2530. # [21:01] <jrmuizel_> catlee: usually file
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2544. # [21:05] <catlee> jrmuizel_: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=809985
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2548. # [21:05] <mjrosenb> what component should get bugs about the newtab page?
2549. # [21:05] <Yoric> jmaher: ping
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2552. # [21:06] <jmaher> Yoric: pong
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2554. # [21:06] <Yoric> jmaher: Hi.
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2556. # [21:06] <jmaher> Yoric: how are you?
2557. # [21:06] <Yoric> Tired :)
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2559. # [21:06] <jmaher> Yoric: :(
2560. # [21:07] <Yoric> I have found a fix for the bug, but I still need some confirmation to make sense of it :)
2561. # [21:07] <Yoric> s/fix/workaround/
2562. # [21:07] <Yoric> Essentially, can you confirm that the drive on which the Firefox binaries are installed for Talos testing on a Talos slave is very slow?
2563. # [21:07] <Yoric> (drive or file system)
2564. # [21:08] <mjrosenb> ok, I just got
2565. # [21:08] <mjrosenb> [reply] [+]
2566. # [21:08] <mjrosenb> Private
2567. # [21:08] <mjrosenb> Comment 637 TinderboxPushlog Robot 2012-11-08 11:49:00 PST
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2570. # [21:08] <mjrosenb> on a bug I thought I'd fixed, how do I find out what commit triggered that?
2571. # [21:09] <Yoric> bsmedberg: ping
2572. # [21:09] <Yoric> jmaher: ^
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2574. # [21:10] <jmaher> Yoric: not sure how to do that; do you want me to run it on a slow drive?
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2577. # [21:10] <Yoric> jmaher: No, I just want information on the configuration of Talos slaves.
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2579. # [21:11] <jmaher> hmm, that would be a releng question; it is the exact same configuration as the unit tests
2580. # [21:11] <Yoric> jmaher: What I mean, is that the only rational explanation I have for the bug is a combination of a slow drive and a nested event loops.
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2582. # [21:12] <jmaher> Yoric: would this show up in unittests if it was a slow drive
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2587. # [21:14] <Yoric> jmaher: Good question.
2588. # [21:15] <Yoric> Actually, this would explain why it shows up on a slave and not locally, but it does not explain why it shows up on talos and not on unit.
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2591. # [21:15] <Yoric> jmaher: Is there anything in talos itself that could slow down I/O?
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2593. # [21:15] <Yoric> Something such as xperf under Windows.
2594. # [21:16] <jmaher> Yoric: very little; I assume this is only seen in a pageloader test; if that is the case, then it could be the pageloader extension- although that is pretty lightweight and small
2595. # [21:16] <jmaher> Yoric: xperf for windows would slow it down, but that isn't on osx :)
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2598. # [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4f4eec3b452 - Steve Fink - Bug 803276 - Disable ArrayBufferView.prototype.move on release channels. r=dmandelin
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2600. # [21:18] <Yoric> I'll ponder this some more while eating diner.
2601. # [21:18] <Yoric> dinner
2602. # [21:18] <jmaher> Yoric: we run apache from the local disk, maybe there is an I/O problem with apache serving and firefox consuming...although it hasn't been a problem for years
2603. # [21:18] <jmaher> Yoric: I sent an email to help figure out the disk stuff
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2605. # [21:18] <jmaher> enjoy your dinner
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2607. # [21:20] <Arc> huh. still compiling..
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2613. # [21:25] <catlee> hmm
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2619. # [21:27] <bsmedberg> Yoric: pong
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2621. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19a2117f74ba - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 807316 - Import PrivateBrowsingUtils.jsm lazily on Android; r=bnicholson
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2637. # [21:35] <catlee> philor: are we missing recent build results?
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2639. # [21:35] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Would you be available to superreview bug 807875?
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2641. # [21:36] <Yoric> jmaher|afk: Can you think of anything else talos-specific that would explain a jsm being loaded more slowly than on a unit test?
2642. # [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29329180fee5 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806709 - Port browser_newtab_private_browsing.js to the new per-tab PB APIs; r=jdm
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2644. # [21:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57460417b94d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806698 - Port browser_privatebrowsing_theming.js to the new per-window PB APIs; r=jdm
2645. # [21:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/241e44f78cff - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806722 - Port indexedDB browser_privateBrowsing.js to the new per-tab PB APIs; r=jdm
2646. # [21:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/463e747a00de - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806721 - Disable browser_webconsole_bug_618311_private_browsing.js in per-window PB builds; r=jdm
2647. # [21:37] <philikon> RyanVM: heya... are you landing anything on m-i any time soon perhaps? i'd have a patch for a ride-along, don't really want ot waste the machine time
2648. # [21:38] <RyanVM> philikon: not in the next few minutes, but today still? probably
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2650. # [21:38] <RyanVM> just put a checkin-needed on it
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2653. # [21:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0713f3e03f6 - Vladan Djeric - Bug 661881: Add an about:telemetry page to Firefox. r=ttaubert
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2656. # [21:41] <@ehsan> vladan: \o/
2657. # [21:41] <philikon> RyanVM: awesome.t hx
2658. # [21:41] <lmandel> vladan: ^ That just made my day.
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2662. # [21:41] <@roc> when you make an HTTPS request, the URI travels in the clear, right?
2663. # [21:42] <@roc> actually, I really hope I'm wrong
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2666. # [21:43] <mcpherrin> roc: No, the whole headers are encrypted, uncluding the URI
2667. # [21:44] <@roc> phew
2668. # [21:44] <jdm> jgriffin: are you a peer or module owner?
2669. # [21:44] <jgriffin> jdm: I'm a Testing peer
2670. # [21:44] <jdm> great, thanks
2671. # [21:45] <mjrosenb> roc: the standard leakage is when you contact the dns to get the ip of your "secure server"
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2675. # [21:46] <mcpherrin> Are hostnames sent in the clear? I think they must be for SNI to work
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2678. # [21:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53d5080a6749 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 809437 - Copy gecko files to /data/local prior to copying them to /system/b2g, r=jgriffin
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2683. # [21:48] <dmose> anyone run into qimportbz bustage recently? I'm seeing "hg qimport bz://750869" fail
2684. # [21:48] <dmose> "abort: unable to read file bz://750869"
2685. # [21:49] <dmose> (this is a new install on my mac with mercurial latest
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2687. # [21:50] <jdm> well, the // is unnecessary
2688. # [21:50] <jdm> dunno if that will break it
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2690. # [21:50] <dmose> iiiinteresting
2691. # [21:51] <dmose> even if i leave out the //, something inside the code reinserts it and the exact same error message is emitted
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2695. # [21:56] <jdm> dmose: with whatever revision of qimportbz I have, it works fine for me right now
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2697. # [21:56] <philor> catlee: probably yes
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2713. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30899b1b279e - David Burns - Bug 801733: Adding a whole bunch of visibility tests for Marionette; r=jgriffin
2714. # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/976225b8f609 - David Burns - Bug 801733: Updating isElementDisplayed Atom to handle hiding elements via transforms; r=jgriffin
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2775. # [22:29] <bsmedberg> I must be losing some part of my email...
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2798. # [22:37] <riadh> Hi! I want to read all data from nsIObjectOutputStream, I tried to use it like a normal stream ( _AxS_ has suggested to me to try that) but unfortunately, that doesn't work. Could you help me please?
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2800. # [22:39] <froydnj> hm, refcnt logging nsDocument...bad idea
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2802. # [22:42] <nthomas> philor|away: the import-buildbot-data.py cron was stuck, IT have thwapped it (/cc catlee)
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2822. # [22:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7d7319e532b - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 809218 - Expose atob and btoa functions in xpcshell; r=mrbkap
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2854. # [22:53] <nthomas> hmm, still no completed builds on tbpl
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2862. # [22:54] <jfkthame> yeah, i was just noticing how far behind mozilla-inbound seems to be
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2864. # [22:54] <bsmedberg> gps: we have python with 2-space indent? I totally did not notice that.
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2883. # [22:55] <gps> bsmedberg: runxpcshelltests.py has 2 space indent
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2886. # [22:55] <gps> I've seen it a few other places
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2891. # [22:57] <gps> ted, et al: is there a good reason why --enable-tests can't be the default behavior of configure?
2892. # [22:57] <gps> if you are building m-c, I think having tests would be something you'd want to just have
2893. # [22:57] <dbaron> Assertion failure: *ptr == 0x3D, at /home/dbaron/builds/ssd/mozilla-central/mozilla/js/src/ion/shared/Assembler-x86-shared.h:1200
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2895. # [22:57] <dbaron> second time I've hit that recently
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2900. # [22:59] <nthomas> jfkthame, philor|away : I've filed bug 810049
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2926. # [23:05] <Arc> gps: you mean someone hasnt read pep8? :-)
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2931. # [23:06] <akeybl> johns: we're in the releasecoordination vidyo room fyi
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2935. # [23:06] <njn> gps: mach's minute-based timestamps are much better, thanks! I plan to file bugs for the other things, just haven't got to it yet
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2939. # [23:07] <seth> doublec: ping
2940. # [23:07] <gps> njn: I fixed the verbose output on build fail yesterday as well
2941. # [23:07] <njn> gps: great
2942. # [23:08] <gps> which also means the warnings database doesn't get lost if the build fails
2943. # [23:08] <njn> gps: if I wait long enough, maybe you'll fix everything in the meantime :P
2944. # [23:08] <njn> excellent
2945. # [23:08] <gps> if I had spare time...
2946. # [23:08] <gps> I finally got mach completely separated from the build system. so, it's truly a standalone tool now
2947. # [23:09] <gps> now I just need to convince people like B2G to start using it
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2950. # [23:09] <njn> gps: I regularly do partial builds like |make -C $OBJ/js/src|, does mach support those? obviously the long-term plan is for them not to be necessary...
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2953. # [23:10] <gps> njn: it doesn't support those yet. that's an easy addition though
2954. # [23:10] <gps> there's also a bug on incorporating smart make into mach
2955. # [23:11] <gandalf> do we want to have W3C Drag&Drop support on mobile ever?
2956. # [23:11] <gps> i.e. named aliases for make shortcuts
2957. # [23:11] <njn> gps: my experience with smartmake wasn't good
2958. # [23:11] <njn> gps: I can't remember the details now, though
2959. # [23:11] <njn> gps: there was some fundamental obstacle to my workflow
2960. # [23:11] <gandalf> right now draggable elements are not draggable at all, wondering if it's by design
2961. # [23:11] <gps> I'm divided on that one. in the ideal world things like smartmake aren't necessary
2962. # [23:11] <njn> exactly
2963. # [23:11] <gps> builds just take <5s
2964. # [23:12] <njn> gps: I was astounded when I first joined Mozilla to find this wasn't the case
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2968. # [23:13] * njn wishes chatzilla and tree-style-tabs were working on trunk
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2971. # [23:14] <froydnj> builds take <5s? linking included?
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2973. # [23:15] <@smaug> gandalf: W3C d&d?
2974. # [23:15] <gandalf> smaug: yes
2975. # [23:15] <gandalf> the whole node draggable etc.
2976. # [23:15] <@smaug> gandalf: when implementing HTML spec stuff, we don't follow W3C ;)
2977. # [23:15] <@smaug> but WhatWG
2978. # [23:16] <gandalf> yeah
2979. # [23:16] <gandalf> WhatWG then
2980. # [23:16] <@smaug> anyhow, I don't know about the mobile
2981. # [23:16] <gandalf> ok
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2985. # [23:16] <jfkthame> so we have smaug and gandalf discussing D&D …. how very appropriate
2986. # [23:16] <@smaug> you need to ask #mobile whether they want to support dnd
2987. # [23:16] <gandalf> jfkthame: nice catch!
2988. # [23:16] <njn> froydnj: I think he meant no-change builds
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2990. # [23:17] <@smaug> We need still sauron to join the discussion
2991. # [23:17] <@smaug> !seen sauron
2992. # [23:17] <@killer> I don't know who sauron is.
2993. # [23:17] <firebot> sauron was last seen 26 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes and 10 seconds ago,
2994. # [23:17] <njn> froydnj: linking Firefox takes about 10s on my machine, if things are warm
2995. # [23:17] <njn> froydnj: do you use gold?
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3000. # [23:19] <NeilAway> smaug: I hope that helps, I double-checked that it's the act of clicking on the generated content that shows the problem
3001. # [23:19] <@smaug> NeilAway: just about to look at that some more
3002. # [23:19] <froydnj> njn: I don't use gold, when I've tried, gold runs out of fds
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3004. # [23:19] <njn> froydnj: really? shame, it's *much* faster than ld
3005. # [23:19] <froydnj> njn: it's possible my distro's gold is too old, but I think I've tried with binutils HEAD gold
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3007. # [23:19] <froydnj> njn: oh yes, I know
3008. # [23:20] <Unfocused> old gold?
3009. # [23:20] <Unfocused> you should get shiny gold
3010. # [23:20] <NeilAway> dbaron: I hit that once too, but I didn't pay too much attention because the value it was was the one it was being set to, so I just jumped past the assertion
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3015. # [23:21] <njn> Unfocused: does bug 810059 sound at all familiar to you?
3016. # [23:21] <njn> does SPS work on B2G devices?
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3020. # [23:25] <Unfocused> njn: hm, no - iirc, only similar issue was the opposite (working but not showing up, due to bug 671894)
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3022. # [23:27] <RyanVM> philor: backing out bug 809437
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3024. # [23:27] <RyanVM> looks like it's causing b2g mochitest orange
3025. # [23:27] <philor> yep
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3029. # [23:27] <njn> anyone here know much about SPS?
3030. # [23:28] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
3031. # [23:28] <@smaug> njn: BenWa
3032. # [23:28] <njn> smaug: oh, he's on now
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3034. # [23:29] <njn> BenWa: Gecko Profile 1.9.8 is "not available for your platform" (linux)
3035. # [23:29] <@smaug> njn: profiler doesn't work on linux
3036. # [23:29] <@smaug> at least not in any usable way
3037. # [23:29] <@smaug> sewardj is fixing that
3038. # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/960037a36758 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backout 53d5080a6749 (bug 809437) for b2g mochitest orange.
3039. # [23:29] <njn> smaug: presumably the same is true for b2g?
3040. # [23:30] <@smaug> that is don't know
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3042. # [23:30] <@smaug> s/is/I/
3043. # [23:30] <sewardj> njn, smaug: yes, I imagine it will work on b2g without much difficulty
3044. # [23:30] <sewardj> since it works on android
3045. # [23:30] <njn> BenWa, sewardj: how do you get symbol info?
3046. # [23:30] <njn> I mean, source file names and line number
3047. # [23:31] <dmose> gavin: ping
3048. # [23:31] <@gavin> dmose: pong
3049. # [23:31] <dmose> i'm getting something you saw a while ago, it looks like
3050. # [23:31] <dmose> env MOZCONFIG=$PWD/../objdir-droid make -f client.mk build
3051. # [23:31] <dmose> client.mk:109: *** Fix above errors before continuing.. Stop.
3052. # [23:31] <sewardj> njn: that's done by BenWa's front end, on the host machine, so I'm not really sure
3053. # [23:31] <sewardj> njn: but I think it basically uses addr2line
3054. # [23:32] <dmose> gavin: how did you get past that?
3055. # [23:32] <njn> sewardj: oh... how does that work? wouldn't it need libxul.so and similar files from your build?
3056. # [23:32] <@gavin> dmose: I don't remember that, where'd you find my name? :)
3057. # [23:32] <dmose> heh, i googled the error message
3058. # [23:32] <BenWa> njn: We get info by pulling the lib off the phone on mobile, afterwards we use assume all the files are on the host machine and we calling addr2line (or something similar)
3059. # [23:32] <dmose> and found an IRC log
3060. # [23:32] <dmose> gavin: you were actually seeing it on "make configure", where i first saw it also
3061. # [23:32] <njn> BenWa: hmm, ugly :)
3062. # [23:33] <@gavin> dmose: IIRC that was broken for a while due to some buildconfig changes
3063. # [23:33] <@gavin> and clobbering helped?
3064. # [23:33] <dmose> hmph
3065. # [23:33] <BenWa> njn: Why is that ugly?
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3068. # [23:33] <BenWa> It's not fancy but it's very effective
3069. # [23:33] <dmose> gavin: worth a shot, assuming it's able to clobber
3070. # [23:33] <sewardj> njn: yes, you'd need the (debuginfo) objects from the build.
3071. # [23:33] <dmose> thx
3072. # [23:33] <njn> BenWa: I'm spoiled by Valgrind, which does all this stuff internally for you
3073. # [23:33] <BenWa> njn: Well we can do it interlay but that assumes that information wasn't stripped
3074. # [23:34] <BenWa> internally*
3075. # [23:34] <dmose> oh, i see!
3076. # [23:34] <njn> BenWa, sewardj: I was thinking about a memory profiling mode for SPS; the key idea is that you'd change the sampling time unit from "milliseconds" to "heap bytes allocated"
3077. # [23:34] <BenWa> njn: Yes that actually one of my long term goal
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3079. # [23:34] <njn> BenWa: makes sense for release builds
3080. # [23:34] <sewardj> njn: one of the difficulties in this is you really don't want to be shunting -g versions of libxul.so back and forth to the device
3081. # [23:34] <BenWa> njn: If you assume that symbols haven't been stripped you can use DescribeCode or something similar
3082. # [23:34] <sewardj> njn: it's freaking huge and takes forever
3083. # [23:35] <njn> sewardj: yes
3084. # [23:35] <njn> BenWa: DescribeCode still doesn't give line numbers on linux or mac
3085. # [23:35] <njn> BenWa: you have to use tools/rb/fix-linux-stack.pl
3086. # [23:35] <njn> or tools/rb/fix_macosx_stack.py
3087. # [23:35] <njn> no source file, either
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3089. # [23:35] <BenWa> njn: I have a patch in bug 809317 that uses the profiling infrastructure to print the current location without any external programs
3090. # [23:36] <BenWa> so it shows c++, js and stack annotations
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3092. # [23:36] <BenWa> njn: Well then someone can fix up DescribeCode, or we just call tools
3093. # [23:37] <BenWa> If you plan on using SPS then you don't have to worry, we already have all the code for translating addresses->line on all platforms
3094. # [23:37] <BenWa> njn: All you need to do is write something like trace_malloc that calls into SPS
3095. # [23:37] <njn> BenWa: I'm thinking about this because of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717853#c26
3096. # [23:37] <BenWa> If you write that piece I will do the rest :)
3097. # [23:37] <nthomas> RyanVM: bugmail coming, but tbpl is up to date now
3098. # [23:38] <njn> BenWa: what would the "call into SPS" look like?
3099. # [23:38] <BenWa> njn: We could even probe about:memory to see if it noticed the allocation
3100. # [23:38] <RyanVM> nthomas: yeah, been catching up on starring
3101. # [23:38] <BenWa> We could use this tool for finding bling spots in about:memory
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3103. # [23:38] <RyanVM> I'll reopen when tests are caught up
3104. # [23:38] <BenWa> njn: We can agree on an interface :)
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3106. # [23:38] <BenWa> You do the malloc side, I do the collecting, symbolication and presentation
3107. # [23:39] <njn> BenWa: that's exactly what DMD does
3108. # [23:39] <njn> BenWa: I have a Valgrind version that works well but is slow and requires Valgrind
3109. # [23:39] <njn> BenWa; I'm working on a non-Valgrind version, it works ok but the stack traces are crap and require post-fixing
3110. # [23:39] <@ehsan> gavin: ping
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3112. # [23:39] <njn> BenWa: where is the SPS code that handles this stuff?
3113. # [23:40] <BenWa> njn: https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/blob/master/data/SymbolicateWorker.js
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3116. # [23:41] <njn> BenWa: oh. DMD currently just dumps a big text file (containing lots of stack traces) as output
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3118. # [23:41] <njn> BenWa: looks like SPS output is JSON?
3119. # [23:42] <BenWa> njn: Can I grab you on vidyo for a minute?
3120. # [23:42] <njn> BenWa: sure
3121. # [23:43] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, can trees reopen?
3122. # [23:43] <njn> BenWa: ok, I'm in vidyo
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3124. # [23:44] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I'd rather see some green on some of the more recent checkins first
3125. # [23:44] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, how about just try, then? ;)
3126. # [23:44] <RyanVM> actually, I guess so
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3128. # [23:45] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: reopened
3129. # [23:45] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
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3143. # [23:47] <@gavin> ehsan: pong
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3150. # [23:47] <@ehsan> gavin: can you please respond to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802274#c22 ?
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3172. # [23:49] <@gavin> ehsan: seems fine, would need to look at the patch to know for sure
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3182. # [23:52] <seth> how do you get to the error console now, again?
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3184. # [23:52] <nthomas> there's a pref to enable in about:config
3185. # [23:52] <nthomas> devtools.errorconsole.enabled
3186. # [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5983eb572cb - Bobby Holley - Bug 807623 - Reimplement obj_toString and fun_toString traps on BaseProxyHandler. r=ejpbruel
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3188. # [23:54] <@ehsan> gavin: alright, I'll attach a new patch in a sec
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3199. # [23:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b15342a983c4 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 809213 - Move PhoneNumber.js from Gaia to Gecko. r=gal
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3202. # [23:59] <@ehsan> gavin: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=679845&action=edit
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