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# Session Start: Mon Nov 19 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fddb9923ef0 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 744867 - Fire INSTALL_FROM_DENIED for app installation failure due to installs_allowed_from. original-patch=ianb r=fabrice
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# [00:29] <Hughman> Is there anyone who can decide if my jank bug needs fixing in the addon or in firefox? bug 811674
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# [00:35] <@smaug> Hughman: looks like addon problem
# [00:35] <@smaug> The addon uses XHR and in readystatechanged listener it does something very heavy
# [00:36] <@smaug> tickerEntityDecode
# [00:37] <@smaug> ah, there is some js exception somewhere htere
# [00:37] <@smaug> s/htere/there/
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# [00:38] <NeilAway> bah, 22 mins to link libxul on Windows :s
# [00:38] <@smaug> Hughman: do you have also Bugzilla Tweaks
# [00:38] <markh> wow - need moar memory?
# [00:40] <Jesse> or less windows
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# [00:46] <markh> a debug build's xul.dll links in 30 seconds for me
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# [00:55] <Hughman> smaug: I dont entirely remember if its still installed but I did install Bugzilla Tweaks ages ago
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# [00:57] <@smaug> Hughman: the profile showed some stuff from Bugzilla Tweaks
# [00:57] <@smaug> taking lots of time
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# [00:59] <Hughman> smaug: hmm.. I do have a rss feed of a bugzilla search.. could that cause a problem?
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# [01:03] <@smaug> Hughman: not sure. But try disable Bugzilla Tweaks
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# [01:04] <njn> error: ‘const class nsACString_internal’ has no member named ‘get’
# [01:04] <njn> hmm
# [01:04] <NeilAway> njn: PromiseFlatCString(foo).get() if you need it
# [01:05] <njn> NeilAway: yeah... sometimes I need that, sometimes just get() works, and I haven't worked out the distinction
# [01:05] <NeilAway> njn: get() only works on terminated strings, so no substrings
# [01:05] <NeilAway> njn: nsACString could be a substring, so you can't use get() directly
# [01:06] <NeilAway> njn: PromiseFlatCString peeks at it to see if it's a substring and if so makes a temporary null-terminated copy
# [01:06] <njn> NeilAway: so get() by itself works with nsCString? ok
# [01:06] <njn> thanks
# [01:06] <NeilAway> njn: there are cases when the API actually wants a char array i.e. start & length, in which case you really wanted BeginReading
# [01:06] <Hughman> smaug: I will try that when I get home. Thanks for the help
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# [01:22] <markh> what's the relationship between "app units" and screen coordinates?
# [01:23] <markh> err - I guess I mean "screen units"
# [01:23] <@smaug> roc: ^
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# [01:24] <markh> it kinda looks like app units = screen_units * -10...
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# [01:40] <markh> I've changed a file in layout/xul/base/src and according to the dev faq, all I should need to do is a make in that dir, possibly in layout/build, then in toolkit/library. However, that isn't relinking anything for the initial change. Is there something I'm missing so I can avoid a "full" build?
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# [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e10975ff4a07 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 789398 - Rework the type inference memory reporters. r=bhackett.
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# [02:10] <@roc> markh: 60 appunits per CSS pixel
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# [02:13] <markh> ah - thanks
# [02:13] <markh> roc: and on windows, 1css pixel == 1 screen pixel, right?
# [02:13] <@roc> usually
# [02:13] <@roc> if you're not zoomed
# [02:14] <markh> great, thanks
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# [02:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d6eb774184a - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 812602. Don't decode jpegs progressively when we have all the data. r=joe
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# [02:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77c8bc0e550a - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 812935 - Fix undefined value error in memory reporter for web workers. r=khuey
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# [03:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5c51f86ef3d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 812823 - Update pdf.js to version 0.6.141. r=bdahl
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# [03:17] <karl> mjrosenb: did you find a cause for the window open failure?
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# [03:30] <bholley> jesup: ping
# [03:30] <philor> so nice - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=ba3e78c64a39
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# [03:41] <jesup> bholley: pong
# [03:41] <bholley> jesup - bug 812641. I commented
# [03:44] <jesup> bholley: Wow. Oops. I think I just pushed the part of it to add a main-thread assertion, without the rest. Checking.
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# [03:54] <markh> I think not, but are any of the build slaves testing RTL environments?
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# [03:54] <jesup> bholley: Ok. Seriously weird. Thanks for catching that; could have caused some serious confusion
# [03:54] <@dolske> markh: not unless it's specifically part of some test(s) someone writes.
# [03:54] <bholley> jesup: just happened to be at the top of the recent commits, and I saw it when I did git log -p
# [03:55] <bholley> jesup: :-)
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# [03:56] <markh> dolske: I guess specifically I'm asking how to test code that has a check like: someElement->GetPrimaryFrame()->GetStyleVisibility()->mDirection == NS_STYLE_DIRECTION_RTL
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# [04:04] <@dolske> markh: I guess I'd only ask why native code needs to care about RTL. :)
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# [04:04] <markh> dolske: the menu/panel popup positioning code does - I'm looking at writing tests etc for a tweak I'm making
# [04:05] <markh> it seems to have fairly poor test coverage atm
# [04:05] <markh> specifically, asking a popup to show "before" the anchor means on the right-hand-side in rtl
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# [04:09] <@dolske> ah. hmm. guess I'd wonder why that can't just all be in CSS, but ok.
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# [04:10] <markh> dolske: any pointers to tests that might test rtl in any context?
# [04:11] <markh> or techniques to open a new window etc which is setup as rtl?
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# [04:12] <markh> actually, that might be just what I need - {direction: rtl}
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# [04:32] <njn> anyone here know about freetype, in particular how it's installed?
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# [04:43] <heycam> njn, maybe karl?
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# [04:44] <karl> njn: freetype on which platform?
# [04:44] <njn> karl: linux and B2G?
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# [04:44] <njn> karl: Freetype is using multiple MB on B2G
# [04:45] <njn> karl: so I want to write a memroy reporter for it. It allows you to provide a custom allocator, which makes that easier
# [04:45] <karl> njn: on desktop linux, freetype comes from the distro; on b2g, not sure, but probably part of Gecko
# [04:45] <njn> karl: I'm just trying to work out how its built, in order to understand how to provide the custom allocator
# [04:45] <njn> from the distro on desktop? hm
# [04:46] <njn> karlt: MOZ_TREE_FREETYPE, right?
# [04:46] <karl> njn: yes, MOZ_TREE_FREETYPE
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# [04:46] <njn> karlt: so I can do --enable-tree-freetype to test on desktop
# [04:47] <karl> njn: i wonder how many fonts are open with b2g; on desktop linux we only keep a few open at a time; on android/b2g looks like we may open them all
# [04:47] <njn> karl: it's quite possible
# [04:47] <njn> karl: I don't see this multi-MiB on desktop linux
# [04:48] <njn> karl: for the custom allocator, I need to set the FTSYS_SRC environment variable before buildiing freetype
# [04:48] <njn> karl: which is why I want to know how it's built
# [04:48] <karl> njn: yes, --enable-tree-freetype is worth a try on desktop, but you really also want --disable-pango to select the same gfx font backend as b2g/android
# [04:49] <karl> njn: not sure how well maintained that configuration is
# [04:49] <njn> karl: ok, thanks
# [04:49] <karl> njn: i don't know the details of how freetype is built in Gecko
# [04:50] <@dolske> markh: look at ehsan's Force RTL addon, and/or talk to ehsan. :)
# [04:50] <markh> dolske: excellent, thanks!
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# [04:57] <karl> njn: are you aware that you can pass your own FT_MemoryRec to FT_New_Library, irrespective of how freetype is built?
# [04:57] <karl> http://freetype.sourceforge.net/freetype2/docs/reference/ft2-module_management.html#FT_New_Library
# [04:57] <karl> http://freetype.sourceforge.net/freetype2/docs/reference/ft2-system_interface.html#FT_MemoryRec
# [04:57] <njn> karl: I didn't see that. Excellent!
# [04:58] <njn> karl: AFAICT, gecko never calls that function, though :/
# [04:58] <karl> njn: hmm, trying to work out what it does instead
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# [05:00] <njn> karl: FT_Init_FreeType
# [05:01] <karl> njn: yes, the docs indicate how to replace with new_library: http://freetype.sourceforge.net/freetype2/docs/reference/ft2-base_interface.html#FT_Init_FreeType
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# [05:02] <njn> karl: so I just replace FT_Init_FreeType with FT_New_Library + FT_Add_Default_Modules
# [05:02] <karl> njn: looks like it
# [05:02] <njn> karl: who's the owner of this stuff?
# [05:02] <njn> e.g. likely reviewer for any patches?
# [05:03] <karl> njn: desktop linux uses the call in cairo-ft-font.c; --disable-pango or android/b2g use gfx*Platform*
# [05:03] <njn> yeah
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# [05:05] <karl> njn: i think you can ask me for review of the gfx code, unless nattokirai or jfkthame are keen; jrmuizel is usually the reviewer for cairo, but he might be happy for me to review
# [05:08] <njn> karl: I could put a memory reporter in each of gfxAndroidPlatform.cpp and gfxPlatformGtk.cpp, but is there a better platform-independent spot for this?
# [05:08] <njn> karl: actually, never mind, that won't work
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# [05:17] <njn> karl: ../../../dist/system_wrappers/pango/pango-break.h:2:15: fatal error: 'pango/pango-break.h' file not found
# [05:17] <njn> karl: that's in a --disable-pango build
# [05:18] <karl> njn: that sounds odd, does it tell you where it is included from?
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# [05:18] <njn> 2:29.89 In file included from /home/njn/moz/mi3/intl/lwbrk/src/nsPangoBreaker.cpp:8:
# [05:18] <njn> 2:29.89 ../../../dist/system_wrappers/pango/pango-break.h:2:15: fatal error: 'pango/pango-break.h' file not found
# [05:18] <njn> 2:29.89 #include_next <pango/pango-break.h>
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# [05:18] <karl> njn: check https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703042
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# [05:19] <njn> karl: cool -- do I just need the first patch?
# [05:19] <karl> njn: i'm guessing so
# [05:20] <karl> but that is looking quite different
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# [05:22] <karl> njn: i think you'll need to also edit intl/lwbrk/src/Makefile.in
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# [05:23] <njn> karl: to remove the nsPangoBreaker.cpp reference?
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# [05:24] <njn> karl: ugh, that patch has bit-rotted badly
# [05:24] <karl> njn: you could probably use TK_CFLAGS and it would work; but it would also make sense to make the tests involving nsPangoBreaker to check for the disable-pango config
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# [05:25] <karl> njn: i didn't mind which option you choose
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# [05:26] <karl> it's a shame that patch didn't land
# [05:26] <vasi> is there a way to force XUL to build dynamically instead of statically? incremental builds are taking forever :(
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# [05:27] <karl> vasi: no longer possible to build as a set of shared libraries unfortunately; you now need a machine with at least 8GB ram to build really
# [05:27] <karl> 12GB is preferred
# [05:27] <vasi> well that sucks :(
# [05:27] <vasi> thanks for the help, though
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# [05:27] <karl> 4GB will work, but slowly
# [05:28] <karl> vasi: actually those are for debug builds, opt builds won't need that much
# [05:28] <vasi> i've got 4GB RAM, and it does work
# [05:29] <vasi> but fixing a typo in a source file, and then waiting 3 minutes to build is pretty annoying
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# [05:29] <vasi> i'm surprised opt builds are *faster*
# [05:29] <karl> less stuff to move around
# [05:29] <karl> 3 minutes is not that bad actually
# [05:29] <karl> even if annoying
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# [05:30] <vasi> yeah?i'm trying to tune a parameter, so waiting between tests is the GRAR-y part
# [05:30] <vasi> i guess i could just throw it in a variable for testing, and the munge it in the debugger?evil, but probably faster :P
# [05:30] <vasi> *then
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# [05:30] <karl> vasi: env variable?
# [05:30] <vasi> bwahahaha
# [05:30] <vasi> i like the way you think :P
# [05:31] <karl> or pref
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# [05:33] <qheaden> Is lists.mozilla.org down for anyone else? I can't seem to access the page.
# [05:33] <Unfocused> neither
# [05:34] <njn> vasi: you know about |make -C $OBJ/$DIR && make -C toolkit/library| ?
# [05:34] <vasi> njn, yup, that's what i'm doing
# [05:34] <njn> vasi: and it still takes 3 mins? you must have a slow machien :(
# [05:35] <vasi> plus make -C browser/app?.not sure if that's really necessary
# [05:35] <vasi> Core 2 Duo 2.1GHz?not super speedy
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# [05:37] <njn> vasi: I think browser/app used to be needed, but no longer
# [05:37] <vasi> njn, good to know, thanks
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# [05:38] <njn> vasi: actually, I'm not sure about that... but I never do browser/app and it works for me
# [05:39] <markh> sadly that doesn't seem to work for me when I touch xul/widgets
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# [05:42] <qheaden> Unfocused: I'm sure you saw the email alert already, but I release a patch for 335781, just so you know.
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# [05:45] <Unfocused> qheaden: yep :) just been too tired to get to it today
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# [05:45] <qheaden> Unfocused: LOL, I understand that. I'm in no rush. Get to it when you can.
# [05:46] <Unfocused> :)
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# [05:47] <qheaden> Unfocused: Thanks to using Mercurial colored diff, I was able to get rid of all trailing whitespace. So you don't have to worry about that.
# [05:47] <Unfocused> ah, yea, i love that it shows that
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# [05:48] <Unfocused> qheaden: btw, did you see https://campd.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/firefox-and-addon-developers-should-set-devtools-chrome-enabled/ ?
# [05:48] <Unfocused> the debugger seems to be in good enough shape to use for chrome work now days
# [05:50] <qheaden> Wow! I had the chrome pref enabled, but I never knew the debugger worked for the chrome sources. This will save lots of time. Thanks!
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# [05:53] * qheaden is loving the browser debugger.
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# [05:56] <Unfocused> it has some rough edges, but when i played with it over the weekend it seemed good enough to be useful, without too much head-desking
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# [05:56] <qheaden> Unfocused: Yeah, I just loaded my search provider code in it, it is amazing!
# [05:56] * Unfocused hat-tips the devtools team
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# [05:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d224b191b8ca - Randell Jesup - Bug 812886: Watch network (tear)down events and kill PeerConnections r=ekr,smaug,bsmith
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# [06:39] <njn> stupid question: what's the preferred way of pulling a patch from m-c to aurora?
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# [06:39] <njn> |hg pull -r $REV ssh://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central| ?
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# [06:40] <markh> njn: I typically "hg export -r rev > some_file" in the mc dir, then "hg qimport < some_file" in the aurora dir - then qpush, test qfin and push
# [06:40] <markh> as usually I need to stick an "a=..." on the commit msg
# [06:40] <njn> markh: I've done that before, it just feels cumbersome
# [06:40] <njn> true
# [06:41] <Unfocused> njn: transplant
# [06:41] <markh> agreed :)
# [06:41] <philor> I mostly hg qimport https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/raw-rev/e10975ff4a07
# [06:42] <markh> I'd probably do that if my muscle-memory could remember the various urls...
# [06:42] <markh> although I guess it would also work with my working dir names instead of the upstream urls...
# [06:42] <njn> Unfocused: does transplant let you modify the commit message, i.e. add the "a=..." ?
# [06:43] <Unfocused> yea, pass in -e
# [06:44] <Unfocused> also, pro-tip: whatever command you use, its *much* faster to reference a local copy of m-c, than hg.mo
# [06:45] <njn> Unfocused: yep
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# [06:45] <markh> except philor's trick probably *can't* be used with a local clone - I doubt "../mozilla-central/abcd12345 is going to work...
# [06:46] * njn realizes he probably shouldn't have landed a patch on aurora 20 minutes before disappearing for the day
# [06:46] <markh> njn: you will be in good company - that's exactly what I'm in the middle of doing too ;)
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# [06:51] <philor> cd ~/m-c/mozilla && hg serve && cd ~/m-a/mozilla && hg qimport http://slice.local:8000/raw-rev/b959971b8219
# [06:51] <philor> but even I wouldn't go to that much trouble to not hit the network
# [06:52] <philor> if you can't load a raw-rev or six, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS PUSHING TO A TREE WHERE THE TREE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO WATCH FOR THREE HOURS
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# [06:55] <Unfocused> i think philor is trying to tell us something, but i'm not sure what
# [06:55] <markh> not sure whether to respond "rules schmules" or "watch smwatch"...
# [06:56] <@dolske> tree schmee
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# [07:05] <markh> pushed - so I better that smwatching the schmee...
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# [07:09] <philor> too early to be pushing, anyway - if you wait until around 1am, you can push to aurora and wind up shipping in a beta without having ever shipped in a nightly
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# [09:27] <nigelb> Hrm, I need help with filing a bug.
# [09:27] <glob> nigelb, hi
# [09:27] <nigelb> Occasionally fb gets rreally unresponsive
# [09:27] <nigelb> I don't know how'd or why.
# [09:28] <nigelb> closing the tab and rreopening it fixes it.
# [09:28] <nigelb> Hey glob :)
# [09:28] <nigelb> Last day in your timezone!
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# [09:28] <glob> nooo
# [09:28] <glob> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
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# [09:29] <nigelb> glob: Thanks!
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# [10:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65751a16c0b6 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 812846 - densify nsAccTreeWalker, r=tbsaunde
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# [10:34] <@roc> victorporof: inbound is burning
# [10:34] <victorporof> looks
# [10:34] <victorporof> i doubt it's caused by my patch..
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# [10:36] <@roc> yeah
# [10:36] <@roc> I dunno
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# [10:38] <edmorley> just more ftp.m.o issues
# [10:38] <edmorley> we need bug 811279
# [10:39] <edmorley> there have been so many network issues of late :-(
# [10:39] <Callek|buildduty> boo network issues
# [10:39] <Callek|buildduty> especially when I'm buildduty on merge-week
# [10:40] <Callek|buildduty> p.s. good morning
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# [10:41] <Wusel_> is it possible to let a mozilla plugin read something out of a mysql database?
# [10:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/be3a0b4edebd - Jonathan Kew - bug 801410 - update harfbuzz to release 0.9.6 plus recent commits (to upstream 977f1740..c2ec7c74). r=jdaggett,joe
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# [10:49] <Wusel_> or is it recommended to use node.js in an extension?
# [10:50] <ewong> edmorley: ping
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# [10:50] <Callek|buildduty> wheeeeee! https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try/rev/2e6572d50969
# [10:50] <Callek|buildduty> "Start Time" 2012-10-30 06:21:21
# [10:50] <Callek|buildduty> still running
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# [10:51] <edmorley> ewong: hi
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# [10:51] <ewong> edmorley: hi.. re: bug #811279, I've attached a wip patch.. might you have time to give it a lookthrough?
# [10:51] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: there are 10+ jobs that have been running for 19 days :-/ https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/running
# [10:52] <Callek|buildduty> yea :(
# [10:52] <Callek|buildduty> I'm trying to figure out what to dos, since I don't even have buildbot UI for it
# [10:52] <Callek|buildduty> without buildbot UI I can't easily pinpoint to a specific slave, etc.
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# [10:54] <edmorley> ewong: sure will do
# [10:54] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: I'm amazed one of the buildbot timeouts hasn't kicked in
# [10:55] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: my theory, stuff did end but the DB write failed for some reason, and thus we have dead jobs but no DB entry for them being finished
# [10:55] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: the url above has links to the relevant buildbot master - is that not enough to determine slave?
# [10:55] <edmorley> oh
# [10:55] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: the masters purge logs after x days/size
# [10:55] <Ms2ger> Who timeouts the timeouters?
# [10:55] <Callek|buildduty> so we have no logs available there
# [10:55] <edmorley> ah
# [10:55] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: i think N is 4 iirc
# [10:56] <Callek|buildduty> and similar with ftp if the jobs did finish, logs from 19 days ago are likely gone
# [10:56] <edmorley> speaking of which there are a few jobs with 3 days run time
# [10:56] <Callek|buildduty> and yea, I think N is 4 or 5 for job logs on buildbot
# [10:56] <Callek|buildduty> yea the 3 days etc are next
# [10:56] <Callek|buildduty> I was just looking from "oldest " first
# [10:56] <Callek|buildduty> :-)
# [10:58] <Callek|buildduty> o fun the 3 day one has "The web-page 'stop build' button was pressed by 'philringnalda@gmail.com': Cancelled via self-serve"
# [10:58] <Callek|buildduty> ;-)
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# [11:15] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: I wish the buildapi table sorted the dates correctly
# [11:16] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: agreed
# [11:16] <edmorley> I'll file a bug
# [11:16] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: CC me
# [11:16] <Callek|buildduty> and its likely that jQuery has a function for that ;-)
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# [11:26] <jfkthame> nice to see that edmorley's on top of things this morning :)
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# [11:27] <edmorley> :-)
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# [11:27] <jfkthame> my tbpl tab just refreshed and an orange appeared - but it already had a star on it, thanks!
# [11:28] <edmorley> np
# [11:28] <edmorley> ninja "pre-starring"
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# [11:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca5d8c37113b - Jonathan Kew - bug 811312 - part 1 - remove the ATSFontEntry class (not needed on 10.6 and later). r=jdaggett
# [11:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e61fdb713e40 - Jonathan Kew - bug 811312 - part 2 - fold CGFontEntry subclass into MacOSFontEntry. r=jdaggett
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# [11:37] <Callek|buildduty> glandium: am I insane, or is tab stats not properly working -- as in I can't |about:tabs| anymore
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# [11:38] <glandium> Callek|buildduty: you're not insane. it happens to me too. and it works again if you disable/enable the addon
# [11:38] <Callek|buildduty> glandium: odd :(
# [11:38] <glandium> something must have changed in the bootstrap wrapping, again
# [11:38] <glandium> likewise for about:startup
# [11:39] <Callek|buildduty> glandium: fwiw, it does not work if I disable then enable
# [11:39] <Callek|buildduty> (for me, on 17)
# [11:39] <Callek|buildduty> my ver is 0.0.2 according to about:addons
# [11:39] <glandium> mmmm
# [11:39] <glandium> anything in the error console?
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# [11:40] <glandium> ah, you should use 0.0.3
# [11:41] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: huh, I've just discovered https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/reports/slaves
# [11:41] <Callek|buildduty> glandium: I see Could not read chrome manifest 'file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Mozilla%20Firefox/extensions/%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D/chrome.manifest'.
# [11:41] <edmorley> that % failure column is kinda handy for tegras
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# [11:41] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: I don't know if its legit or not, (as in, I don't even know where it gets that data from)
# [11:41] <Callek|buildduty> (or how accurate it is)
# [11:42] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: I do like https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/reports/waittimes though
# [11:42] <glandium> Callek|buildduty: that message is completely unrelated :)
# [11:42] <Callek|buildduty> glandium: so then, nothing
# [11:42] <jfkthame> edmorley: should we bother retriggering red panda builds these days, or do we just ignore them and wait for the next push?
# [11:42] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: seems accurate to me, comparing against https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-269
# [11:42] <Callek|buildduty> ...except the likely cause of my SEVERE slowdowns lately
# [11:42] <Callek|buildduty> vlad: ping
# [11:43] <Callek|buildduty> vlad: http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/1947775 GC huge times
# [11:43] <edmorley> jfkthame: until they stop giving useless log output, ignore them tbh
# [11:43] * jfkthame ignores
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# [11:44] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: --- interesting :*(
# [11:45] <edmorley> the bugs I've filed have gone nowhere, so...
# [11:47] <edmorley> although actually this isn't the "lets carry on building for 15 mins after we failed to make it impossible for people to find the failure" case
# [11:47] <edmorley> we should still output something more useful than ERROR - Return code: 2
# [11:48] <edmorley> to the tbpl annotate summary
# [11:48] <edmorley> those mozharness INFO lines shouldn't be info
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# [11:50] <surkov> where can/should I file feedback about bugzilla (a feature request)?
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# [11:53] <Callek|buildduty> surkov: depends, you can try asking glob/dkl about it in #bmo or #bugzilla if you like -- chances are its already on file :-)
# [11:53] <surkov> ok, thank you
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# [11:55] <tonymec> surkov: feature requests for bugzilla should be reported via bugzilla as bugs of severity "enhancement"
# [11:56] <surkov> ok
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# [11:56] <surkov> maybe I'll do that since glob/dkl seems are located in different timezone
# [11:56] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: ok, I'm (again) not confident: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/tegra-271 + https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/reports/slaves/1818?endtime=1353301200&starttime=1352696400
# [11:56] <tonymec> surkov: but of course, check first if the bug hasn't yet been reported
# [11:56] <surkov> sure
# [11:56] <Callek|buildduty> note that the latter has a bunch of green runs where the first link doesn't
# [11:58] <edmorley> hmm weird
# [11:58] <Callek|buildduty> I agree that if we could trust it, it would be useful -- but I'm not about to trust it yet
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# [11:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52473aa84e9d - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 812817. Ignore TYPE_ZERO nsDisplayItemData records constructed for the root layer. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36fcf82a515b - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 812776. Reset InlineBackgroundData whenever there are no display lists extant. Frame trees can't change while there are display lists extant. r=mattwoodrow
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# [12:21] <edmorley> jfkthame, Callek|buildduty: filed bug 813022 for the panda failure not being output from mozharness appropriately fwiw
# [12:21] <Callek|buildduty> thx
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# [12:22] <edmorley> Callek|buildduty: who can I CC on bug 812397 ?
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# [12:24] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: try asking over in #b2g, I really don't know who is on the hook build-system wise for them
# [12:24] <Callek|buildduty> I'd normally 302 to catlee, but he's out till the end of the month
# [12:24] <edmorley> ok
# [12:24] <edmorley> ta
# [12:24] <Callek|buildduty> (the failure sure sounds like build system and not releng specific ;-) )
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# [12:53] <Wusel_> how do I remove a preference or change the type?
# [12:54] <Wusel_> ah ok, it was deleteBranch
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# [13:24] <josh> What are we recommending for malloc now, nsMemory::Alloc?
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# [13:25] <jgilbert> do we not just wrap those in whatever we want?
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# [13:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ab84754b536 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 811193 - nsIUrlListManager.safeLookup() should take a nsIPrincipal. f=hector sr=sicking
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# [13:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66473f7c498f - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 812480 - [AccessFu] Fix accessibility announcements in Android 4.2, r=blassey
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# [14:01] <edmorley> glandium: thank you
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# [14:06] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: fyi catlee is away this week https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793782#c6
# [14:07] <edmorley> yeah, that bug relies on another being in production, so the delay shouldn't matter
# [14:07] <edmorley> though I might just pick someone else given that catlee will have a lot to go through when he gets back as it is
# [14:09] <Callek|buildduty> yea
# [14:10] <Ms2ger> mounir, what kind of distractions would it need to avoid?
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# [14:16] <mounir> Ms2ger: anything
# [14:16] <mounir> basically, being fullscreen
# [14:17] <mounir> (and ideally, adding keyboard shortcuts ;))
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> glob|away, add a fullscreen button to splinter for mounir, kthxbai :)
# [14:18] <mounir> Ms2ger: you can't understand my pain
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# [14:19] <Ms2ger> mounir, no, I'm not French
# [14:19] <bjacob> a-ha!
# [14:20] <mounir> Ms2ger: I shall remember that and forward some reviews to you ;)
# [14:20] * bjacob ticks off one possibility
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> josh, moz_malloc/moz_xmalloc IMO
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> mounir, will you forward some cheese too?
# [14:20] <mounir> Ms2ger: depends on the results
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> r-
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# [14:21] <mounir> Ms2ger: r- is fine, I will forward you reviews I'm being asked to do, not reviews I want you to do ;)
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# [14:21] <Ms2ger> mounir,
# [14:21] <Ms2ger> pff
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# [14:50] <edmorley> mounir: please don't star failures with "r"; new bugs need to be filed
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# [14:50] <edmorley> I'm happy to file them (and was going to do so after another patch), but by starring them we'll just lose them
# [14:52] <edmorley> mounir: was it just the three, or were there any more?
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# [14:56] <mounir> edmorley: oups
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# [14:57] <mounir> edmorley: roc's push, osx 10.6 opt, red d
# [14:57] <edmorley> ta
# [14:57] <mounir> edmorley: same push, there is an orange Moth
# [14:57] <mounir> orange R two lines below (some push)
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# [14:57] <mounir> J2, on Android, same push
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# [14:58] <mounir> edmorley: winxp debug M1, gyeh@mozilla.com, but the bug is likely filed
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# [14:58] <mounir> there were just like a hundred of suggestions
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# [14:59] <mounir> and the following job was green
# [14:59] <edmorley> the M1 was new too
# [14:59] <mounir> I think that's it
# [14:59] <edmorley> it's a different crash
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# [14:59] <edmorley> ok, thank you
# [14:59] <mounir> edmorley: having all those suggestions isn't really helping
# [14:59] <mounir> but I think you know that
# [15:00] <mounir> IIRC, you've been doing some work to clean that up, right?
# [15:00] <edmorley> mounir: yes
# [15:00] <edmorley> but this is unrelated
# [15:00] <edmorley> that's just a crappy test
# [15:00] <mounir> edmorley: seems like it ;)
# [15:00] <edmorley> that has had lots of bugs files against it
# [15:01] <edmorley> you can see the crash stack in the log, it didn't match any of the summaries suggested
# [15:01] <mounir> edmorley: just that if there are 2 bugs filed, any one would take the time to check if the failure matches, if there are hundreds of them, it's just too long
# [15:01] <edmorley> I'm going to look at getting the top frame output in a format that TBPL can show in the annotated summary, but that requires playing about with minidump stackwalk
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# [15:02] <edmorley> mounir: ok, but: open log -> quicksearch top frame of crash stack
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# [15:04] <edmorley> mounir: or just leave it unstarred (this is inbound after all) and I'll do it :-)
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# [15:11] <edmorley> mounir: not sure what to make of that :P
# [15:12] <mounir> mounir: I'm afraid you would have beat in the middle of the office :)
# [15:12] <mounir> edmorley: ^
# [15:12] <edmorley> ha
# [15:12] <edmorley> not in the middle, just in a meeting room... ;-)
# [15:12] <mounir> edmorley: actually, I just moved to another desk because I fear your wrath :)
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# [15:13] <Callek|buildduty> thats why I work from home, edmorely isn't near me, and philor can't find me
# [15:13] <edmorley> hehe
# [15:13] <Callek|buildduty> s/el/le/
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# [15:20] <ewong> err I thought it was 4 hours
# [15:20] <ewong> re: philor's message
# [15:20] <edmorley> ?
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# [15:21] <ewong> :)
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# [15:21] <edmorley> ewong: context?
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# [15:22] <ewong> edmorley: philor if you can't load a raw-rev or six, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS PUSHING TO A TREE WHERE THE TREE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO WATCH FOR THREE HOURS
# [15:22] <ewong> cheeky, I know.. :)
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# [15:24] <edmorley> ewong: ah :-)
# [15:25] <edmorley> just looked that up in the channel logs
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# [15:42] <edmorley> is submitted the file a bug page really slow for anyone else?
# [15:42] <edmorley> seems to have gotten worse over the last 5 days or soemthing
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# [15:43] <jgilbert> attaching something to a bug seemed slow earlier, but I'm on unknown-quality internet right now
# [15:43] <Callek|buildduty> edmorley: all of bmo feels extra worse for me today
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# [15:44] <glob> edmorley, i've noticed too; however the loads on the cluster appear normal
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# [15:47] <glob> hrm, probably isn't helping that someone is running the same query several times a second
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# [15:49] <Cwiiis> bz, heh, I conflicted with you on that untiless measurements quirks bug doing the *exact* same thing - was quite confused when I got an e-mail with what I thought was my comment under your name :)
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# [15:52] <edmorley> glob: what query? :-)
# [15:53] <glob> edmorley, see bug 813078
# [15:53] <edmorley> glob: ta :-)
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# [16:02] <@bz> Cwiiis: lol
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# [16:02] <@bz> Cwiiis: great minds, etc? ;)
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# [16:05] <NeilAway> bjacob++
# [16:06] <bjacob> NeilAway: ? :)
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# [16:06] <NeilAway> bjacob: sorry, was reading scrollback from 2 hrs ago, you were ticking someone, I mean something off
# [16:06] <bjacob> oh yeah
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# [16:21] <@bz> yeah....
# [16:21] <@bz> bjacob: ping
# [16:22] <bjacob> bz: pong
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# [16:23] <@bz> bjacob: seen the stuff about float vs unrestricted float?
# [16:24] <bjacob> bz: seen it, not read it
# [16:24] <@bz> ok
# [16:25] <@bz> bjacob: My basic question is whether I should just switch to unrestricted float (the old behavior) and assume the spec will follow
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# [16:25] <@bz> bjacob: or wait for someone other than Florian to respond.... ;)
# [16:25] <bjacob> heh
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# [16:25] <bjacob> let me read it
# [16:26] <@bz> bjacob: thanks!
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# [16:28] <jesup> KaiRo: Timing, we collided on that bug. I suspect given the signature I'll have a fix (if only wallpaper) soon. Original author (ekr) will be on a little later from google where he's doing interop work
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# [16:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41bc47dfa5b2 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 812032 - Refactor the media reader classes to not access MediaDecoder directly; r=cpearce
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# [16:46] * @khuey should not bother answering questions on dev-platform
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# [16:48] <Callek|buildduty> khuey++
# [16:48] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: you should be answering in m.s.firefox instead
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# [16:50] <KaiRo> jesup: ok, good - I just went though all newly filed crash bugs to make sure we track what needs to be tracked, etc.
# [16:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be3a0b4edebd - Jonathan Kew - bug 801410 - update harfbuzz to release 0.9.6 plus recent commits (to upstream 977f1740..c2ec7c74). r=jdaggett,joe
# [16:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bcc1b683819 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
# [16:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/258292c9c929 - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
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# [16:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86b05603698f - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 812121 - Allow drawArrays/Elements without vertex attrib arrays - r=bjacob
# [16:55] <@bz> Man
# [16:55] <@bz> we complain about bugzilla
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# [16:56] <@bz> but if it were as slow as jQuery's bug system, we would all commit mass suicide or something.
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# [16:58] <jesup> bz: they just want to keep bugs reports to things people *really* care about
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# [16:59] <glob> hrm..
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# [17:01] <@bz> jesup: or something
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# [17:15] <jlebar> Do we always fire a scroll event for the endpoint of a scroll?
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# [17:18] <jlebar> bz, Maybe you know? Do we (or should we) always fire a scroll event for the endpoint of a scroll?
# [17:19] <@khuey> wow
# [17:19] <@khuey> apparently amd is going to stop making x86 cpus
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# [17:19] <derf> They haven't made a competitive one in, what, 5 years?
# [17:20] <@ted> interesting
# [17:20] <@ted> what are they going to make?
# [17:20] <jlebar> ARM, I believe.
# [17:20] <@khuey> arm
# [17:20] <@ted> huh
# [17:20] <@bz> jlebar: I don't know offhand.
# [17:20] <@smaug> and gpus
# [17:20] <jlebar> bz, Do you know who I should ask?
# [17:20] <@khuey> derf: was it really that short a time ago?
# [17:20] <@ted> do they make an ARM chipset already?
# [17:20] <@bz> jlebar: maybe roc?
# [17:20] <jlebar> bz, okay; thanks.
# [17:20] <derf> khuey: I was being generous.
# [17:20] <@khuey> ah
# [17:21] <derf> khuey: Though even when they didn't compete at the high end, they were pretty solid at the value end.
# [17:21] <@smaug> jlebar: what do you mean with that end point of a scroll?
# [17:21] <jlebar> smaug, Suppose you scroll the page by dragging your finger on a touch device.
# [17:21] <derf> 5 years ago, I mean.
# [17:22] <glandium> khuey: where did you read that? all i read so far is that they will start producing arm chips, not that they stop x86
# [17:22] <jlebar> smaug, There's a well-defined end-point of that scroll...
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# [17:22] <@smaug> jlebar: but scroll event is just a notification that scrolling has happened
# [17:23] <jlebar> smaug, So here's the problem.
# [17:23] <jlebar> smaug, We use the scroll event to trigger showing the URL bar in the B2G browser.
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# [17:23] <jlebar> smaug, When you're scrolled within X pixels of the top of the page, we show the URL bar.
# [17:23] <@smaug> didn't we add some special events for xul fennec...
# [17:23] <jlebar> smaug, But if we never get that scroll event, that's bad...
# [17:23] <@smaug> maybe it wasn't for this case
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# [17:25] <@smaug> ah, no, it was about scrolled area change
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# [17:27] <@khuey> jlebar: why did you CC me to 805746?
# [17:27] <@smaug> jlebar: so, I don't know how b2g handles panning. Is it scrolling or something else
# [17:27] <jlebar> khuey, Um.
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# [17:28] <jlebar> khuey, I must have typed your name instead of roc's.
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# [17:28] <@smaug> also scroll event itself might not be enough if the page size changes...which is why scrollareachanged event might be useful
# [17:28] <@khuey> we're not that hard to distinguish :-P
# [17:29] <jlebar> smaug, wrt your first question, I'm not sure what you mean.
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# [17:31] <@smaug> one case scroll in many ways
# [17:31] <@smaug> mousewheel, scrollbar...
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# [17:32] <@smaug> and panning is probably doing something quite different
# [17:32] <@smaug> s/case/can/
# [17:32] <@bz> Anyone know which timezone sicking is in?
# [17:32] <@khuey> bz: PST?
# [17:32] <@khuey> at least, he was on friday
# [17:32] <jlebar> smaug, Let me look at the pan/zoom code...sec.
# [17:32] <@bz> ok
# [17:32] <@bz> good.
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# [17:34] <jlebar> smaug, It's modifying scrollLeft and scrollTop.l
# [17:34] <jlebar> s/.l/./
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# [17:36] <evilpie> bz: can you look at the test in bug 676619 and tell me what i need to add so i can land?
# [17:36] <@bz> evilpie: looking
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# [17:37] <sankha93> Ms2ger: isn't bug 813034 similar to the canvas helper bus?
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# [17:37] <sankha93> *bug
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# [17:39] <@bz> evilpie: Looks fine to me, in general. Was the question about what to do with cross-origin stuff?
# [17:40] <Ms2ger> sankha93, not particularly
# [17:40] <@bz> evilpie: it's easy enough to set up a link to it; the issue is how the test should work?
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# [17:40] <sankha93> Ms2ger: how? it seems similar to implementing the IDL and adding the function in CPP..
# [17:41] <Ms2ger> I suppose
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# [17:44] <sankha93> MS2ger: hmm..
# [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a401cd8c40e4 - Josh Matthews - Bug 812828 - If there's no active window when opening targets in tabs, assume we don't want private browsing. r=mak
# [17:45] <mak> jdm: cool, sorry for wrong first review :)
# [17:45] * Ms2ger waves at mak
# [17:46] <mak> Ms2ger: hi :)
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# [17:49] <edmorley> what should one call the overlay that appears when you start typing in the awesomebar? (for the purposes of a bug report about it not rendering frequently)
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# [17:49] <edmorley> and I'm guessing Core::Xp Toolkit/widgets:XUL right?
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# [17:53] <biesi_> edmorley, urlbar dropdown?
# [17:53] <francisco> hi folks, I'm trying to compile my b2g for desktop, and end up with the error: mozilla-central/src/security/dbm: No such file or directory. Stop.
# [17:53] <francisco> any clue on what could happening?
# [17:53] <edmorley> biesi_: yeah I'll use that, thank you
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# [17:56] <amital> Hi, I am Aditi Mittal. I am considering applying for the Outreach Program for the Women. I am very much interested in release metrics dashboard project. I have setup the developement environment. Can anybody direct me how to go forward.
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# [17:58] <amital> @akeybl Hi
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# [17:59] <evilpie> bz: i guess you listening for location change?
# [18:00] <evilpie> do we have some library to make the chaining better looking?
# [18:01] <jdm> lsblakk: see amita's question
# [18:02] <jdm> er, amital's question
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> evilpie, [he's away for about 45 more minutes]
# [18:02] <@khuey> amital: I think akeybl stepped out to get some food, he should be back in a bit
# [18:02] <evilpie> Ms2ger: k
# [18:03] <akeybl> back now - responded to amital's PM
# [18:03] <akeybl> thanks khuey
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# [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1326ff4b3398 - Tobias Netzel - Bug 812932 - Have EndianMacros.h recognize __BIG_ENDIAN__ preprocessor macro - r=bbondy
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# [18:25] <@khuey> is DONTBUILD still a thing?
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# [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8527561c80d - Kyle Huey - No bug: s/class/struct/ to shut up MSVC. r=me DONTBUILD
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# [18:36] <Ms2ger> khuey, yes it is, but that's not an appropriate use :)
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# [18:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c780ff5ec8a8 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 812395 - Make emulator fail gracefully during errors for install_gecko, r=ahal
# [18:38] <@khuey> Ms2ger: yes it is :-D
# [18:39] <Ms2ger> khuey, nuh-uh, it's a code change
# [18:39] <jlebar> Can someone remind me: Does a Navigator live per inner-window, or per outer-window?
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# [18:40] <jlebar> khuey, thanks.
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# [18:40] <@khuey> jlebar: we used to do some ridiculous "preserve the navigator across navigations" bullshit
# [18:40] <@khuey> but that's gone
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# [18:41] <Ms2ger> jlebar, which train? :)
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# [18:41] <jlebar> Ms2ger, Trunk and Aurora. :)
# [18:41] <Ms2ger> Or was that Location
# [18:41] <@khuey> man, users are dumb
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# [18:41] <Ms2ger> Listen to that dude, I guess
# [18:41] <@khuey> Ms2ger: that's location
# [18:42] <@khuey> the comments on the win64 thread are ridiculous
# [18:42] <@khuey> glad I'm not on that mailing list
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# [18:42] <jhammel> heh; i just filter out any messages about win64 and UA strings...avoids 90% of the traffic ;)
# [18:43] <@bsmedberg> don't worry, I'm going to cut that thread on Wednesday and file the releng bugs
# [18:43] <Ms2ger> jhammel++
# [18:43] <@bsmedberg> and "tabs on bottom" ;-)
# [18:43] <espindola> BenWa: sorry, what is the link?
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# [18:43] <Ms2ger> Version numbers
# [18:44] <jhammel> that too ;)
# [18:44] <@khuey> I think people have given on version numbers
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# [18:46] <bholley> smaug: er, sorry. I accidentally overwrote your feedback+
# [18:46] <@khuey> now we just need to get them to give up hope that they'll get their way on all these other things
# [18:46] <glob> bholley, blame bugzilla
# [18:46] <Ms2ger> khuey, YOU'RE HITLER
# [18:46] <Ms2ger> ;)
# [18:46] <jhammel> khuey: so...its a good time to introduce a new version number model?
# [18:46] <jhammel> Ms2ger: you didn't know? ;)
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# [18:46] <@khuey> jhammel: I still think we should be using mercurial cset hashes as version numbers
# [18:47] <@khuey> Firefox 258292c9c929 will be the best release yet!
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# [18:47] <@smaug> bholley: np
# [18:47] <Ms2ger> khuey, "Firefox tip"
# [18:47] <jhammel> khuey: clearly, seconds since epoch is the *only* version number scheme that makes sense
# [18:48] <hub> when is the cut off for inbound to reach central before the uplift?
# [18:48] <@khuey> hub: it has likely passed already
# [18:49] <hub> *sigh*
# [18:49] <hub> ok
# [18:49] <Ms2ger> Yeah, way too late
# [18:49] <hub> ok
# [18:49] <Ms2ger> You can push to m-c (and watch the tree) now, or you can request a-a, and push to aurora (and watch the tree) later
# [18:49] <Callek> khuey: problem with ver numbers as cset hashes is that we have too much code that *ensures* we use increasing ver #'s, and csets are *never* guaranteed to be increasing nevermind numeric
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# [18:50] <hub> Ms2ger: I'll just request approval. it is for b2g
# [18:50] <@khuey> Callek: you're making the mistake of assuming that this is a serious suggestion and not just a big middle finger to people who care about version numbers
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# [18:50] <Ms2ger> hub, then I don't care :)
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# [18:51] <Callek> khuey: isn't that big-middle-finger enough of a reason to devote the rest of Q4 and all of Q1 to the problem, across multiple teams?
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# [18:52] <@khuey> heh
# [18:52] <Ms2ger> Callek, let's do that with win64 instead
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# [18:52] <jhammel> no, let's bikeshed about bikeshedding...much more meta
# [18:53] <@khuey> we shouldn't be painting the bikeshed, we should be wallpapering it
# [18:53] <Callek> Ms2ger: I'd be much more likely to convince us to go back to using nmake for windows building than to get us to care about w64
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# [18:53] <Ms2ger> Callek, I think you misunderstood my age, I've never heard about nmake
# [18:55] <Ms2ger> glob, did you see that comment about fullscreen splinter, btw?
# [18:55] <glob> Ms2ger, i did
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# [18:55] <Ms2ger> joe, a neighbourhood of stalkers? ;)
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# [18:57] <joe> Ms2ger: hm, does it count as stalkers if you invite them in?
# [18:57] <Ms2ger> You didn't invite me in, so I wouldn't know
# [18:58] <joe> Oh
# [18:58] <joe> That explains a number of things
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# [18:58] <biesi_> nmake's still better than the old mac build system
# [18:59] <biesi_> whose files you could only edit on a mac
# [18:59] <@bsmedberg> yes
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# [18:59] <Ms2ger> midl, dammit
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# [19:01] <joe> i remember midl
# [19:01] <joe> why do i remember midl
# [19:01] <biesi_> our build system never really used it, did it? except for some a11y files
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# [19:01] <Ms2ger> Well, no, you were supposed to have a windows install to run it before checkin
# [19:01] <biesi_> that must have been before my time
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# [19:03] <@khuey> Ms2ger doesn't remember midl
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# [19:04] <joe> ms2ger was born after midl was deprecated i'm pretty sure
# [19:04] <@khuey> ha
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# [19:05] <Ms2ger> joe, quite possibly
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# [19:08] <NeilAway> I remember the existence of the Mac build system, so I guess midl predated that
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# [19:10] <@dolske> jesup: hi!
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# [19:14] <jesup> dolske: got a patch for a UI issue - bug 804611. Been up for review for like 2 weeks; and the author (anant) is now no longer with us, so I'm taking that over, and dao doesn't seem to be around for the last week. Could you look? (I might not try to land it today but land later and ask for immediate uplift to Aurora)
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# [19:26] <@ted> am i right that the FPS counter drawn by layers.acceleration.draw-fps can't be retrieved in any programmatic way?
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# [19:26] <@ted> it looks like it just draws to the screen, there's no way to get that data out
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# [19:28] <@dolske> jesup: hmm, probably best for dao to take a look at that. not sure I'd be able to get to it today anyway.
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# [19:28] <jesup> dolske: ok, thanks
# [19:29] <@dolske> jesup: give him a ping to let him know it needs an early-as-possible review since there are strings?
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# [19:29] <jesup> sure
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# [19:37] <@ehsan> ted: ask BenWa
# [19:37] <@ted> BenWa: ping
# [19:38] <@ehsan> (I think the answer is no)
# [19:38] <BenWa> ted: Not exactly
# [19:38] <Hixie> bz_away: your input is requested on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17041
# [19:38] <BenWa> Ohh the FPS, right not at the moment
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# [19:38] <@ted> okay
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# [19:38] <BenWa> ted: You can get the frame number and derive a frame counter with that
# [19:38] <@ted> we were looking to get that data out for b2g automation
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# [19:39] <BenWa> ted: SPS get's notified when a new frame is presented, maybe you want something similar
# [19:39] <@ted> BenWa: so basically replicate the computation that FPSCounter is doing?
# [19:39] <BenWa> ted: What's your exact use case?
# [19:39] <@ted> BenWa: gal wants a measurement of FPS in various apps in B2G
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# [19:39] <@ted> and we want it in automation
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# [19:40] <@ted> i guess if we can get the frame counter out that's fine
# [19:40] <BenWa> ted: In JS I think you can attach to rAF
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# [19:40] <@ted> hm
# [19:40] <BenWa> But that gives you how often the content is doing an update which is different then the compositor FPS
# [19:40] <@ted> yeah...
# [19:40] <BenWa> Thus why we have two FPS counters
# [19:40] <@ted> i have no idea which would be more useful
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# [19:41] <BenWa> ted: for automation we use a few different hook points. Some panning test use the Pan Zoom Controler
# [19:41] <jgilbert> we should make the FPS counter both cross-platform and less ugly :p
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# [19:42] <@bz> evilpie: ping
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# [19:42] <BenWa> Eideticker uses a frame number on the video stream + the performance profile
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# [19:42] <BenWa> jgilbert: That would be lovely
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# [19:42] <jgilbert> BenWa, I will file the bug, and consider working on it during try runs, or something
# [19:43] <@ted> BenWa: pan zoom controller?
# [19:43] <@ted> sorry, i have no idea what this is
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# [19:53] <gps> if two prefs .js files define the same preference, is there a consistent rule for which one takes precedence?
# [19:54] <gps> i.e. is order in package-manifests.in relevant?
# [19:54] <@bsmedberg> gps: order in package-manifests.in is not relevant
# [19:54] <@bsmedberg> but there is a consistent rule
# [19:55] <@bsmedberg> gps: but I wouldn't recommend doing that unless there is no way around it
# [19:56] <@bz> ehsan: so "delay" means "taking Sunday off from work"? ;)
# [19:57] <@ehsan> bz: precisely ;)
# [19:57] <gps> bsmedberg: well, I could work around it because this is an in-development feature
# [19:57] <@ehsan> bz: I spent most of Sunday sleeping...
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# [19:57] <gps> here's my predicament. I want to always define the prefs because I don't like invisible prefs
# [19:57] <@ehsan> (and most of Saturday too for that matter)
# [19:57] <@bz> ehsan: it's a Sunday. It's _supposed_ to be for not working!
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# [19:57] <gps> I think there should be a shared prefs file defining reasonable defaults for all apps
# [19:57] <@ehsan> bz: I've heard that... ;)
# [19:57] <gps> then, each app should be able to override what makes sense
# [19:58] <gps> app = Gecko app (browser, b2g, etc)
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# [19:58] <gps> it sounds like you are telling me I need to copy the default prefs file for each app to do it the recommended way
# [19:58] <@bsmedberg> well, that's a slightly different question, actually
# [19:59] <Ms2ger> bz, depends on your faith, I guess ;)
# [19:59] <@bsmedberg> since platform prefs and app prefs should end up in different directories to begin with
# [19:59] <bholley> edmorley: re bug 765192
# [19:59] <bholley> edmorley: looks like it's still orange, despite my patch
# [19:59] <@bsmedberg> I'm ok with that level of abstraction. Although prefs with no default don't bother me at all.
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# [19:59] <bholley> edmorley: there's probably other weirdness in there
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# [19:59] <bholley> edmorley: but I'm unlikely to have more time to sink into it for a while
# [19:59] <@bsmedberg> gps: so typically platform-level prefs should end up in greprefs/
# [19:59] <bholley> :-(
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> and app-level prefs in defaults/preferences
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# [20:00] <bholley> edmorley: but I wanted to let you know so you could decide whether to file another bug or reopen this one
# [20:00] * gps goes to look up with @PREF_DIR@ resolves to
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# [20:00] <edmorley> bholley: that's ok, thank you for looking at it; I'll file another actually
# [20:01] <@bz> ms2ger: or something
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# [20:01] <@bsmedberg> hrm, is it called greprefs.js now?
# [20:01] <@bsmedberg> that's interesting
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# [20:04] <gps> bsmedberg: you made it sound like greprefs/ no longer exists. my local build does not have that directory :/
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# [20:04] <@bsmedberg> gps: apparently we made it greprefs.js now
# [20:04] <glandium> gps: it's greprefs.js now, and it's in omni.ja
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# [20:04] <@bsmedberg> and it is probably in omni.ja
# [20:04] <@bsmedberg> what glandium said!
# [20:05] <gps> so, how would I define prefs in both greprefs.js *and* a per-application file?
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> but that's the base abstraction layer for "prefs provided by the platform and overridable by apps"
# [20:05] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's only been 3 years :)
# [20:05] <glandium> re: "is it called greprefs.js now?"
# [20:05] <glandium> gps: why would you want that?
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I probably reviewed it too, no?
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# [20:06] <gps> glandium: see what I typed ~8 minutes ago
# [20:06] <glandium> bsmedberg: as a matter of fact, you did
# [20:06] <glandium> gps: that doesn't help.
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# [20:06] <glandium> gps: things in greprefs.js are defined in all apps
# [20:06] <Hixie> bz: in IE10, this test (click Navigate then Compare) logs "false", which contradicts the comments in the Location object thread... am I doing anything wrong in the test? http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1916
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# [20:06] <glandium> why have prefs in greprefs.js *and* all apps prefs ?
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# [20:07] <Hixie> bholley: see my question to bz (sorry, didn't notice you were here)
# [20:07] <gps> glandium: I want to define default prefs for *all* apps somewhere central and define per-app defaults where appropriate that override
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# [20:07] <bholley> Hixie: let me look
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# [20:07] <glandium> gps: then define your per-app defaults in each app's prefs, when you need an override
# [20:07] <glandium> we do that for plenty of prefs
# [20:08] <gps> glandium: so where do I define the "central" prefs then?
# [20:08] <glandium> gps: greprefs.js
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# [20:08] <Hixie> (bholley: presto does log true as you suggest in the thread)
# [20:08] <gps> currently it's a "@BINPATH@/@PREF_DIR@/" entry in package-manifest.in
# [20:08] <bholley> Hixie: we can pick this up on #whatwg, less noise
# [20:08] <Hixie> bholley: roger
# [20:08] <Ms2ger> bholley, (IE results come from me; take at face value :))
# [20:08] <glandium> gps: modules/libpref/src/init/all.js
# [20:08] <gps> glandium: how do I get in greprefs.js? where is that file?
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# [20:09] <_AxS_> glandium: hey, how's it going today? can i get you a coffee? tea? insert other brownnoser comments here...
# [20:09] <gps> glandium: thanks (also - that's an obscure location!)
# [20:10] <glandium> _AxS_: hey, i'll probably look at your patches tomorrow
# [20:10] <glandium> gps: that's because a) it used to be greprefs/all.js and b) modules/libpref/src/init/all.js is combined with netwerk/base/public/security-prefs.js to form greprefs.js
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# [20:10] <glandium> greprefs/all.js in the builds, instead of greprefs.js
# [20:11] <gps> glandium: is there any way I can add yet another file to that concatenated set?
# [20:11] <_AxS_> glandium: you're the best!! Thanks!!!
# [20:11] <glandium> gps: why would you want to do that?
# [20:11] <gps> I don't like my prefs being defined so "far away" from the component they are related to
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# [20:11] <gps> loosely coupled, etc
# [20:12] <@khuey> r- :-P
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# [20:13] <glandium> gps: otoh, when there's only one place to look into, you know where to look...
# [20:14] <gps> glandium: exactly. which is why prefs should live next to the code that defines the component :)
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# [20:15] <glandium> gps: yeah, and when you move your component, you forget to update what takes its prefs to put them in greprefs.js, and you're left without your defaults
# [20:16] <gps> glandium: I think what I'm asking for is a GRE_PREFS_FILE build system variable :)
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# [20:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4082461196b0 - John Schoenick - Bug 548133 - Remove special handling for object 'pluginurl' param. r=dolske,josh
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e50e8c6c5cf - John Schoenick - Bug 810494 - Don't show plugin errors for types we recognize but are not loading for another reason. r=josh
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/475674cbd9f1 - John Schoenick - Bug 800018 - Part 1 - Remove binding events from nsObjectLoadingContent. r=josh
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0faf815f0b54 - David Keeler - Bug 800018 - Part 3 - Move plugin fallback events handling entirely to the front-end (Fennec). r=margaret
# [20:43] <shu> who works on jetpack?
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd8533b0fae7 - John Schoenick - Bug 800018 - Part 4 - Fix plugin fallback tests for new events. r=josh
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# [20:45] <dholbert> shu, I believe myk does (or has)
# [20:46] <philor> shu: your best bet is to ask KWierso|Home who you want to talk to
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# [20:46] <myk> shu: a bester bet is to join #jetpack!
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# [20:52] <jhammel> the whole python?!?
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# [20:53] <@bz> "python testing/mochitest/gen_template.pl"
# [20:53] <@bz> Does Not Work Well. ;)
# [20:53] <jhammel> ha!
# [20:53] <akeybl> smaug: mounir: jwir3: please check email for urgent FF17 issue
# [20:54] <jhammel> no....no it does not; too bad that's already on my "list of things to fix that i'll never have time to do"
# [20:54] <@bz> jhammel: hh
# [20:54] <@bz> er, heh
# [20:54] <@smaug> akeybl: not doing any Mozilla stuff today
# [20:54] <jhammel> (where "that" == "make gen_template.pl -> gen_template.py")
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# [20:54] <@bz> Jesse: yes
# [20:54] <Jesse> bz: thanks
# [20:54] <@bz> Jesse: part of generally hardening that stuff back at some point
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# [20:55] <akeybl> smaug: thanks for the heads up, I really hope mounir is around to help in that case
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# [20:56] <Jesse> jorendorff: i have whatever comes with xcode 4.5 and it works. i've also use clang tip sometimes.
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# [20:57] <jorendorff> Jesse: well, I've got XCode 4.5.2 and it doesn't work. Maybe I just need to clear out the ccache cache?
# [20:57] <jorendorff> I installed command line tools, and /usr/bin/clang's timestamp reflects that
# [20:58] <jorendorff> so that's not it
# [20:58] <jorendorff> https://gist.github.com/4113412
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# [20:59] <Waldo> jorendorff: use ehsan's instructions, they're simple (lmgtfy)
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# [21:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/669ac8371d19 - Alex Keybl - Merging in version bump NO BUG
# [21:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2d2d1df0de8e - Alex Keybl - Added tag FIREFOX_AURORA_19_BASE for changeset cf8750abee06
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# [21:08] <jgilbert> \o/
# [21:08] * @bz finds yet another broken assert
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# [21:09] <jorendorff> Waldo: i don't understand
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# [21:09] <Waldo> jorendorff: http://ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2011-10-17/why-you-should-switch-clang-today-and-how which "ehsan clang" would have found; guess I was too terse
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# [21:09] <@ehsan> Waldo: "ehsan clang"... nice!
# [21:10] <mcsmurf> :D
# [21:10] <Waldo> can't tell you how many times I've loaded that via that query :-)
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# [21:10] <jorendorff> Waldo: But I've been using clang successfully for months
# [21:10] <Waldo> ehsan: any chance you could fix the typo/missing linebreak in the last set of commands, now that you're on a blog that'll let you?
# [21:10] <Waldo> jorendorff: *shrug*
# [21:10] <@ehsan> Waldo: let me try again
# [21:11] * Waldo knows nothing about building on OS X these days
# [21:11] <@bz> Anyone seen sicking?
# [21:11] <mrbkap> bz: he isn't at the office, as far as I can tell.
# [21:11] <mcsmurf> you could try to use the clang version used on the buildboxen :o
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# [21:12] <jorendorff> clearing ccache did not help
# [21:12] <@ehsan> hmm
# [21:12] <ekr> Head of tree clang out of svn works
# [21:12] <@ehsan> Waldo: I can't seem to find what the problem was. do you remember?
# [21:12] <mcsmurf> iirc the buildboxen use some clang branch these days
# [21:13] <janv> bz: I talked to him 5 minutes ago, but he had to leave
# [21:13] <Waldo> ehsan: cd build ../llvm/configure needs a linebreak in it
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# [21:13] <janv> bz: btw, do you know if "readonly attribute DOMString[] objectStoreNames;" is supported currently ?
# [21:13] <@bz> janv: it's not
# [21:13] <Jesse> hsivonen: does http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/cf8750abee06/parser/html/javasrc/TreeBuilder.java#l1645 fall through to the right thing?
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# [21:13] <janv> ok
# [21:13] <@bz> janv: It's also almost certainly a bug in the spec
# [21:13] <@bz> janv: which spec is this?
# [21:13] <janv> well
# [21:14] <janv> spec says "readonly attribute DOMStringList objectStoreNames;"
# [21:14] <@bz> Right
# [21:14] <janv> but that's not supported either
# [21:14] <@ehsan> Waldo: right! fixed && thanks
# [21:14] <@bz> Ah, but DOMStringList is mainthread-only
# [21:14] <@bz> yeah, sucks
# [21:14] <janv> hmm
# [21:15] <@bz> You may have to implement DOMStringList for workers. :(
# [21:15] <janv> bz: DOMStringList has to be main thread only, or there's just missing impl in workers ?
# [21:15] <janv> ah
# [21:15] <janv> right
# [21:15] <janv> I tried
# [21:15] <@bz> Well, DOMStringList is refcounted
# [21:15] <@khuey> the impl is just missing, I think
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# [21:15] <janv> but we have DOMStringList as an external interface
# [21:15] <@khuey> nsDOMStringList doesn't need CC or anything
# [21:15] <janv> in Bindings.conf
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# [21:15] <janv> so I can't add a descriptor for the worker version
# [21:16] <@bz> khuey: "yet"
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# [21:16] <@khuey> mmm
# [21:16] <@khuey> fun
# [21:16] <@bz> but yes, for now you may be able to just use
# [21:16] <@bz> er, just use it
# [21:16] <@bz> The problem is external interfaces + workers
# [21:16] <janv> yeah
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# [21:16] <@bz> because external interfaces are done via xpconnect
# [21:16] <@bz> but workers... <sigh>
# [21:17] <@khuey> watch out
# [21:17] <@bz> "workers went out of their way to not be compatible with anything else we're doing" :(
# [21:17] <@khuey> smaug will show up and start advocating for a worker thread CC
# [21:17] <janv> heh
# [21:17] <@bz> khuey: if we really expect to add more APIs in workers... we really need _something_
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# [21:17] <@bz> khuey: I agree with smaug
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# [21:17] <@bz> khuey: because the current situation is insane
# [21:17] <@bz> khuey: imho
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# [21:18] <Waldo> khuey: I have one review in hand for bug 730805, but looking again, it looks like enough build stuff that maybe I should get you or some build peer to look -- any chance you could skim quickly and say whether you think it wants a second review? I'll flag properly if you think so
# [21:18] <@khuey> bent is just going to rewrite workers again and everything will be great
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# [21:18] <janv> heh
# [21:19] <@smaug> khuey: I'm too pissed off to even advocate CC. sorry
# [21:20] <@bz> khuey: at least 4 separate people have run into ownership issues with workers in the last 3 days
# [21:20] <@bz> khuey: that I dealt with.
# [21:20] <@bz> khuey: all around bindings stuff....
# [21:20] <@khuey> Waldo: I don't think you need a full review here
# [21:20] <@khuey> Waldo: it looks fine to me
# [21:21] <@bz> khuey: Like I said, a mess.
# [21:21] <@bz> khuey: we really need a plan. :(
# [21:21] <@khuey> yeah
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# [21:21] <bent> what ownership problems? is this something lurking in my inbox?
# [21:21] <@khuey> we solved the "need to write all your own JSAPI problem" and replaced it with other issues
# [21:22] <@bz> bent: "Trying to write code that does WebIDL on workers is insane"
# [21:22] <@bz> bent: is the main ownership problem
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# [21:22] <_AxS_> khuey: what's this? i'm working on patches to version spidermonkey in m-c/js/src .. does it relate?
# [21:22] <@bz> bent: Also c.f. "can't reuse the same impl for main-thread and workers"
# [21:22] <@bz> khuey: we didn't even solve that problem
# [21:23] <@bz> khuey: you still have to write your own trace hooks
# [21:23] <@bz> khuey: and own code for calling callbacks
# [21:23] <@bz> khuey: and so on and so forth
# [21:23] <bent> i'm missing some sort of context i guess
# [21:23] <@bz> khuey: Just see all the places where worker codegen uses "JSObject*" where mainthread does something sane
# [21:23] <bent> if this is somehow a different problem from the ones we've debated before
# [21:23] <@bz> bent: it's not, except now it affects a lot more people
# [21:24] <@bz> bent: because people are trying to use this stuff.
# [21:24] <@bz> bent: well, there are new bits in that improvements to main-thread codegen are not happening in workers because there is no one to do them
# [21:24] <@bz> bent: and they don't apply automatically.
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# [21:24] <@bz> bent: so the set of cases that suck in workers but not on mainthread is growing.
# [21:25] <jorendorff> i'm feeling a little frustrated
# [21:25] <@bz> bent: Basically, our current setup doesn't scale to not having a full-time maintainer for worker binding stuff
# [21:26] <@bz> bent: And I'm not sure how we can solve this problem. :(
# [21:26] <bent> i didn't realize the main thread vs worker differences were widening
# [21:26] <mcsmurf> jorendorff: this is OS X 10.7? just wondering
# [21:27] <mcsmurf> (not that I can help anyway)
# [21:27] <jorendorff> 10.7.5
# [21:27] <@bz> bent: well, for example, we implemented callbacks
# [21:27] <@bz> bent: on mainthread
# [21:27] <jorendorff> Are the build directions just wrong?
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# [21:27] <@bz> bent: they're still JSObject* on workers
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# [21:27] <@bz> bent: because the ownership model is totally different
# [21:27] <@bz> bent: so the work to implement callbacks on mainthread is pretty much not workable on workers
# [21:28] <@bz> bent: needs someone to sit down and implement something that works with the worker ownership model
# [21:28] <bent> oh, so no one has even started the worker side?
# [21:28] <@bz> bent: (and with the fact that workers don't have nsIScriptContexts, etc, though that may all Just Work by accident)
# [21:28] <@bz> no
# [21:28] <@bz> because the only people doing this stuff are me and Peter
# [21:28] <@bz> and we have our hands full
# [21:28] <@bz> and no time to design stuff for workers...
# [21:29] <jorendorff> "Generally, any released version of Xcode should build the latest version of a Mozilla source tree."
# [21:29] <@bz> And I know you don't either...
# [21:29] <bent> ok, so the current gripe comes down to not enough resources
# [21:29] <bent> ?
# [21:29] <jesup|laptop> jorendorff: Sounds possibly optimistic
# [21:30] <derf> jesup|laptop: That's in general. For any specific version it may be lies.
# [21:30] <jesup|laptop> I think nowadays older versions might have issues
# [21:30] <@bz> Well, that's the main thing blocking the situation getting better, yes...
# [21:30] <@gavin> jorendorff: what changed recently?
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# [21:31] <jorendorff> gavin: I'm getting https://gist.github.com/4113412 which was introduced with rev 1ef1038baaf1 on november 2
# [21:32] <jorendorff> i haven't built the whole browser since then
# [21:32] <@gavin> jorendorff: what's clang --version?
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# [21:32] <jorendorff> gavin: Apple clang version 4.1 (tags/Apple/clang-421.11.66) (based on LLVM 3.1svn)
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# [21:33] <@gavin> that's what I have. anything weird in your mozconfig?
# [21:33] <@gavin> hrm, I need to go to the office, bbl
# [21:33] <jorendorff> ok
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# [21:35] <jorendorff> https://gist.github.com/4113693
# [21:35] <jorendorff> I get the same error compiling a toy program
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# [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c3ec1f82732 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 812034 - Permissions: Connect access field for permission checks. r=ddahl
# [21:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80f4c2456dee - Gregor Wagner - Bug 809944 - Require access fields in manifests. Tests. r=ddahl
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# [21:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98ff02ab98cc - Gregor Wagner - Bug 809944 - Require access fields in manifests. r=bent
# [21:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/796cc649b488 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 811923 - Device Storage: support "create" permission. r=dougt
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# [21:46] <jorendorff> the build logs on tbpl don't seem to show that we're passing any special command-line argument to clang...
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# [21:49] <jorendorff> I really have no idea what to try next at this point. Spinning a build with mach, on the off chance that will succeed (even though it seems like the problem must be with clang)
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# [21:56] <dholbert> jorendorff, what if you prefix it with gfxASurface:: (before the gfxImageFormat)?
# [21:56] * jorendorff tries it
# [21:56] <dholbert> er actually
# [21:56] <dholbert> just gfxASurface::
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# [21:57] <jorendorff> dholbert: that definitely works
# [21:57] <dholbert> jorendorff, looks like that was just a bug in that patch
# [21:57] <jorendorff> dholbert: it's still there
# [21:57] <jorendorff> it's been in for two weeks now.
# [21:57] <dholbert> from a quick MXR, it looks like we need s/gfxImageFormat/gfxASurface/
# [21:58] <dholbert> jorendorff, only because other compiler versions are more tolerant or something, so it hasn't caused anyone else trouble yet, presumably :)
# [21:58] <dholbert> jorendorff, file bug?
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# [21:58] <jorendorff> dholbert: huh. ok, i'll file.
# [21:59] <dholbert> jorendorff, and in the meantime, you should be able to fix it locally with that substitution
# [21:59] <jorendorff> dholbert: I think this code is correct, in C++11, so it's my version of clang that's the problem
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# [22:00] <gps> jorendorff: I was getting that "expected class or namespace" error with m-c tip last week. it was due to an implicit symbol or something. it is now fixed in m-c
# [22:00] <dholbert> jorendorff, regardless, it's inconsistent w/ our notation elsewhere
# [22:00] <gps> as for your test program, I have no clue
# [22:00] <jorendorff> i'm building m-i from this morning...
# [22:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d44765f2658e - Andres Hernandez - Bug 722977 - Tabs engine uses global Svc.Private to make decisions based on private browsing state; r=ehsan,gps,rnewman
# [22:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d2464e31941 - Andres Hernandez - Bug 811490 - Convert services/sync/tests/tps/test_privbrw_tabs.js to PB per window mode; r=ehsan,rnewman
# [22:00] <jorendorff> gps, dholbert: thanks.
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# [22:01] <dholbert> jorendorff, (RE consistency -- http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=%3A%3AImageFormatARGB32 shows 135 usages of that enum value, and only one of those has the "gfxImageFormat::" prefix)
# [22:01] <jorendorff> i believe it
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# [22:01] <jorendorff> I can file with patch, if we really want to revert to something stock clang can build.
# [22:01] <jorendorff> I mean, stock Apple Xcode clang.
# [22:02] <dholbert> s/revert/tweak/, and yeah, I think that's a good idea
# [22:02] <dholbert> jorendorff, looks like Bug 794337 added those lines in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1ef1038baaf1 , so I'd make your bug dependent on that one, and maybe CC BenWa
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# [22:03] <jorendorff> k
# [22:03] <gps> jorendorff: we stopped supporting "stock clang" on older versions of Xcode IIRC
# [22:03] <gps> I /think/ we require Clang 3.1+ now
# [22:03] <gps> ask espindola
# [22:03] <jorendorff> But I have clang 4.1
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# [22:03] <gps> you have xcode 4.1?
# [22:03] <espindola> gps: you should be able to build with the one in xcode 4.1
# [22:04] <espindola> I have not run the tests
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# [22:04] <espindola> but the browser starts
# [22:04] <BenWa> I have 'Apple clang version 4.1 (tags/Apple/clang-421.11.66) (based on LLVM 3.1svn)'
# [22:04] <espindola> jorendorff: note that 3.1, 3.2 are the open source releases
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# [22:04] <espindola> Apple has its own numbers
# [22:04] <gps> the LLVM version bit is the important one
# [22:04] <gps> the "Apple clang" version mirrors Xcode's version IIRC
# [22:05] <jorendorff> BenWa: That's what I have, according to clang --version .
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# [22:05] <jorendorff> BenWa: https://gist.github.com/4113693 Do you get the same results?
# [22:06] <gps> it's conceivable we broke Xcode 4.1's clang. AFAIK we don't have TBPL coverage of that version. we compile a specific revision of Clang from upstream on our OS X builders
# [22:07] <BenWa> jorendorff: yes
# [22:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a0bf63a5268 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 812514 - Make b2g emulator unittests save logcat for easier debugging, r=jgriffin
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# [22:07] <BenWa> jorendorff: Are you having mc build issues? I built this morning
# [22:07] <espindola> jorendorff: add -std=gnu++11
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# [22:08] <jorendorff> BenWa: wild. i have no idea why you're able to bulid firefox and i can't then
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# [22:08] <espindola> your build should be using that...
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# [22:09] <BenWa> jorendorff: Here's my changeset+mozconfig
# [22:09] <BenWa> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1948287
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# [22:09] <jorendorff> espindola: huh. tbpl isn't using that. should configure find it for me?
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# [22:09] <espindola> jorendorff: really?
# [22:09] <whimboo> Jesse: ping
# [22:09] <espindola> one sec
# [22:10] <Jesse> whimboo: pong
# [22:10] <whimboo> Jesse: re bug 812641. how do I best check for that leak?
# [22:10] <jorendorff> espindola: well, i just picked a random recent build and looked at the full log https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17176328&tree=Firefox&full=1
# [22:10] <whimboo> Jesse: it's not that easy to analyze the bloatlog
# [22:10] <espindola> jorendorff: -std=gnu++0x
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# [22:10] <espindola> in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17177022&tree=Firefox&full=1
# [22:10] <espindola> we use c++0x because of gcc 4.5 I tihnk
# [22:10] <Jesse> whimboo: are there any leaks?
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# [22:11] <whimboo> Jesse: well, I would like to know how exactly I can identify that
# [22:11] <whimboo> Jesse: there are other leaks for webrtc I have to work on
# [22:11] <whimboo> and your example of the Mutex leak is a good way to get started
# [22:11] <Jesse> whimboo: top line of the table should have "total leaked objects" and "total leaked bytes"
# [22:12] <Jesse> whimboo: it's easier to skim if you set XPCOM_MEM_LEAK_LOG instead of XPCOM_MEM_BLOAT_LOG
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# [22:12] <whimboo> Jesse: i did that and it's value is 2
# [22:12] <whimboo> as you described on the bug
# [22:12] <Jesse> whimboo: pastebin your table?
# [22:12] <Waldo> khuey: okay, thanks
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# [22:13] <whimboo> Jesse: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1948294
# [22:13] <Jesse> whimboo: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging/Debugging_memory_leaks#BloatView
# [22:13] <whimboo> Jesse: that's with the fix checked in
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# [22:13] <jorendorff> yep, that is missing from the command make is issuing for me
# [22:13] <Jesse> whimboo: you leaked an everything :(
# [22:13] <whimboo> Jesse: it's like hell, isnt' it?
# [22:13] <whimboo> Jesse: it's a normal start and shutdown
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# [22:14] <whimboo> with about:blank shown
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# [22:15] <Jesse> whimboo: if a {nsDocShell, nsDocument, or nsGlobalWindow} leaks, a bunch of other stuff is going to leak as well. and your log shows all three as leaking.
# [22:15] <Waldo> khuey: okay, sounds good, thanks for the look
# [22:15] <Jesse> whimboo: not running mochitest, just starting and shutting down the browser?
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# [22:15] <whimboo> Jesse: looks like it's an extension
# [22:15] <whimboo> i now disabled all
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# [22:16] <whimboo> and no entry in the bloatlog
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# [22:16] <Jesse> totally empty, no leaks at all? that's good
# [22:16] <Jesse> might be worth figuring out which extension is making your firefox leak!
# [22:16] * @khuey wonders why Waldo responded twice :-P
# [22:16] <whimboo> Jesse: yes, already on it
# [22:17] <whimboo> Jesse: but that explains why it's unbelievable hard for me to figure out this specific leakage!
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# [22:17] <Jesse> whimboo: indeed!
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# [22:17] <Waldo> khuey: okay, thanks
# [22:17] <Waldo> khuey: because I responded, then got distracted, then forgot I'd responded
# [22:17] <Waldo> faulty RAM
# [22:18] <@khuey> heh
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# [22:18] <Waldo> you also might say I'm DIMM
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# [22:18] <Waldo> jhammel: ^
# [22:18] <Waldo> and dolske ^
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# [22:19] <@khuey> that's quite a RIMM shot there
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# [22:24] <jorendorff> I bet it works now
# [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d096e0ac89e - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 786982: Add the hiding of close tab, while swiping. r=lucasr
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# [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f8721399b14 - Jeff Walden - Bug 812218 - Move user-supplied CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS to the end of commandline, so that they can't interfere with the setting of defaults. r=khuey
# [22:29] <whimboo> Jesse: strange. now with all extensions enabled its gone. no leakage anymore
# [22:29] <whimboo> Jesse: I should have backup'ed my profile :(
# [22:30] <whimboo> so I will have to keep an eye on it
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# [22:31] <Waldo> so anything I land now is going in 20, right? who do we ping to get the Bugzilla targets updated? 'cause I rarely do anything more than assume the first one below the "--" is the one I want :-)
# [22:32] <philor> traditionally, it goes like this...
# [22:32] <philor> mconnor: who is it that updates the --- in target milestone now?
# [22:32] <whimboo> Jesse: any explanation for those massive numbers? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1948305
# [22:32] <@gavin> dkl/glob usually have merge day bugs for that
# [22:33] <@gavin> but I can do it now
# [22:33] <Waldo> you are a gentleman and a scholar
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# [22:33] <@gavin> the hard part is remembering the 16 rarely used components that aslo need changing
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# [22:34] <philor> hmm, don't they usually have pre-merge closures while creating status-20, too?
# [22:35] <Jesse> whimboo: you have "negative 3" nsTArray_base objects remaining (2^64 - 18446744073709551613 == 3). something went wrong in the counting, probably.
# [22:35] <@gavin> bug 812155
# [22:35] <whimboo> Jesse: gotcha. thanks
# [22:35] <whimboo> Jesse: would you mind running the crashtests for webrtc?
# [22:35] <whimboo> Jesse: TEST_PATH=dom/media/tests/crashtests/ make -C ../obj/nightly/ crashtest
# [22:36] <whimboo> Jesse: i would appreciate to hear if you also see such an huge amount of leaks
# [22:36] <Jesse> whimboo: maybe related to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610094
# [22:36] <whimboo> Jesse: yeah. i loaded that page
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# [22:39] <whimboo> Jesse: even when i disable all crashtests for webrtc, i get
# [22:39] <whimboo> 0 TOTAL 49 628363 96579 14886 ( 1350.30 +/- 1904.60) 286517 10773 ( 1681.52 +/- 3320.37)
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# [22:40] <@gavin> there, I think Igot them all
# [22:40] <Jesse> whimboo: similar here
# [22:40] <Jesse> running "TEST_PATH=dom/media/tests/crashtests/ make crashtest" in my objdir
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# [22:40] <whimboo> Jesse: thanks! so i'm going to investigate that
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# [22:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b44293987106 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 813269 - Use double to represent time in Web Audio; r=bzbarsky
# [22:53] <jesup|laptop> whimboo/jesse: until a patch uplifted this morning, all the allocations for the sipcc singleton were leaking
# [22:53] <jesup|laptop> So that won't be in nightly until tomorrow
# [22:53] <whimboo> jesup|laptop: sure. but a single crashtest.list leaks like hell for us
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# [22:54] <whimboo> jesup|laptop: s/single/empty
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# [22:54] <@ehsan> cpearce: ping
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# [22:54] <whimboo> jesup|laptop: what's the bug for it?
# [22:54] <jesup|laptop> Though there are still a bunch of leaks to track down, for sure. And we have some unbalanced refcounts or cycles to break as well if you do something with the peerconnection
# [22:55] <jesup|laptop> whimboo: it's the "Mutex leaks" bug, forget the number. Closed, reopened because I mis-juggled patches, and closed again last night (uplifted this morning)
# [22:56] <whimboo> jesup|laptop: ok. then i know
# [22:56] <whimboo> it's in meanwhile
# [22:56] <whimboo> i'm already working on the latest checkout of m-c
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# [22:57] <ehugg> whimboo: Bug 812641
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# [22:58] <jesup|laptop> If you make an actual call, some important objects leak and take a bunch else with them.
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# [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8049aa5027c8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 813210 - Make the threading related assertions in the media decoder fatal; r=cpearce
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# [23:01] <whimboo> Jesse: re empty crashtest.list. it looks like that a # causes it too. means when no crashtests are in there we leak
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# [23:03] <Jesse> whimboo: is this trunk or some branch?
# [23:03] <whimboo> Jesse: m-c
# [23:04] <Jesse> ok, so it should have philor's fixes for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799332 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806253
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# [23:04] <whimboo> Jesse: yes, but i mostly run into bug 774259
# [23:05] <whimboo> i get one of the last two assertions
# [23:05] <Jesse> whimboo: you could try tossing in more prefs http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1948329
# [23:05] <whimboo> which is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1948330
# [23:06] <jesup|laptop> If there are no webrtc crashtests and we still leak, it's not us :-)
# [23:06] <whimboo> Jesse: how do I do that?
# [23:06] <whimboo> jesup|laptop: two separate issues
# [23:06] <Jesse> whimboo: look at philor's patches i guess
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# [23:07] <whimboo> Jesse: oh. i thougth there is a cmd line option for a prefs file :)
# [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f76720054116 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 813209 - Refactor MediaResource into BaseMediaResource so that we can base the implementation of BufferMediaSource on top of MediaSource; r=cpearce
# [23:07] <Jesse> whimboo: i bet it's safebrowsing
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# [23:07] <whimboo> Jesse: k, will check that now
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# [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8e020333f08 - Ehsan Akhgari - Merge mozilla-central into mozilla-inbound
# [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf8750abee06 - Chris Jones - Bug 804852: Support for the hwc implementation of Composer2D. r=mattwoodrow,mwu,roc sr=roc
# [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d2d1df0de8e - Alex Keybl - Added tag FIREFOX_AURORA_19_BASE for changeset cf8750abee06
# [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/669ac8371d19 - Alex Keybl - Merging in version bump NO BUG
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# [23:15] <Waldo> bjacob: I was looking back through old bugs and found bug 715155; we now have mfbt/TypeTraits.h with InterCaps-named stuff and static const bool, and mfbt/tests/TestTypeTraits.cpp, so I think time's resolved past issues; you have time for a new patch maybe?
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# [23:16] <Waldo> bjacob: would also be nice if you removed js::tl::IsSameType while you're there
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# [23:20] <whimboo> Jesse: btw. none of your prefs helped
# [23:20] <Jesse> darn
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# [23:21] <whimboo> Jesse: oh wait. my fault. the crash is gone
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# [23:22] <Jesse> crash? i thought we were talking about a leak
# [23:23] <whimboo> heh. sorry
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# [23:23] <whimboo> Jesse: i was taling about the assertion with the crash
# [23:24] <whimboo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774259
# [23:24] <bjacob> Waldo: i haven't had a use for IsSameType since, and I thought it was best to hold off from adding helpers to MFBT until they have one solid user
# [23:24] <bjacob> Waldo: glad to do it if you have a use case
# [23:24] <Waldo> bjacob: fair enough
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# [23:24] * Waldo knows JS has the few users, but hasn't heard much beyond that
# [23:24] <bjacob> Waldo: IsBaseOf totally saved my life in my CC macros stuff though!
# [23:24] <Waldo> :-)
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# [23:25] <bjacob> Waldo: as long as it's only JS, it can stay in JS where it currently is
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# [23:25] <bjacob> Waldo: i'm sure the marketing team would approve of us pushing our CC as our main user-facing feature
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# [23:25] <Waldo> well, kind of; thing is the next person to need something is likely to reinvent it, rather than know there's this thing that could be moved around a little
# [23:26] <Waldo> not always the case, but sometimes
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# [23:42] <ddahl> did we re-name/move nsDOMError.h?
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# [23:46] <jwir3> dang
# [23:47] <jwir3> I was really hoping that change would stick, lol.
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# [23:47] <mcsmurf> ddahl: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpcom/base/nsError.h ?
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# [23:47] <mcsmurf> ddahl: err sorry, forget that :)
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# [23:48] <ddahl> mcsmurf: ok, I used to include nsDOMError.h in a patch, but this is failing now
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# [23:54] <mcsmurf> someone knows if anyone has "grep"ed through all extensions in the past to find out interface usage?
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# [23:54] <mcsmurf> I'm just wondering because of Bug 813264 which broke binary extension(s?) using nsIDOMHTMLInputElement from what I see
# [23:55] <mcsmurf> as it was not clear if other extensions also use this
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# [23:56] <mcsmurf> of course only works for addons.m.o hosted extensions
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# [23:59] <nrc> Anyone know about Mac build bustage in cpu_detect_x86.cpp - 'cpuid.h' file not found?
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# [23:59] <Waldo> nrc: install OS X developer commandline tools
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