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  64. # [02:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9102b22a9765 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 814748 - Provide the ability to enable/disable xpcshell tests for per-window private browsing builds; r=ted
  65. # [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3c67034ba39c - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 775511 - Disable panning and showing of scrollbars when in full-screen mode. r=Cwiiis
  66. # [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0208584908be - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 775511 - Move full screen state variable from GeckoApp to LayerView. r=Cwiiis
  67. # [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f255ea4b114a - Ms2ger - Bug 814777 - Try to fix timeout handling for testharness.js tests; r=jgraham
  68. # [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c35b660ef41b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 814757 - Export all decoder reader headers; r=cpearce
  69. # [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ff5cb7daf9dc - Rob Wood - Bug 814691 - Develop WebTelephony test to verify cannot have multiple calls on hold simultaneously and update manifest. r=davehunt
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  143. # [05:37] <Hixie> anyone here know if gecko is likely to support srcset="" any time soon? (images for high density displays)
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  145. # [05:39] <Asa> Hixie: I haven't seen it on any priority lists but I also haven't been following those areas closely lately.
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  147. # [05:41] <Hixie> k, thanks dude
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  149. # [05:44] <Hixie> Asa: while you're here -- have you seen WebVTT/<track>/subtitles on any priority lists? I'm curious who I should talk to about details of that part of the spec.
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  152. # [05:50] <jesup> hixie: rillian mostly, perhaps roc, for webvtt stuff. Rillian did a bunch of webvtt work a bit ago, but I wasn't involved directly
  153. # [05:50] <jesup> rillian == ralph giles
  154. # [05:50] <Hixie> cool, thanks
  155. # [05:50] <jesup> derf may well know as well
  156. # [05:50] <Hixie> rillian: yt? :-)
  157. # [05:51] <Hixie> rillian: looking for an opinion on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18893
  158. # [05:51] <jesup> unlikely.... BTW he's in vancouver
  159. # [05:51] <Hixie> do people in vancouver not hang out on IRC on Saturday nights? :-)
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  161. # [05:54] <@dolske> generally not. they tend to gather in small friendly groups and listen to bieber albums.
  162. # [05:55] <@dolske> ("Saturday Night Bieber Fever")
  163. # [05:56] <Hixie> hah
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  166. # [05:57] <Hixie> btw, i've started a wiki page to track new features that vendors want in HTML, to try to avoid adding too many that don't have wide buy-in -- feel free to fill it in if you see stuff you want to implement that has a blank cell in the Firefox column. http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/New_Features_Awaiting_Implementation_Interest
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  171. # [06:05] <jesup> Derf: you should consider weighing on the last iterm from this list: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/New_Features_Awaiting_Implementation_Interest (
  172. # [06:05] <jesup> derf: ("Video Playback Metrics")
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  175. # [06:26] * benjamin adds sgml support
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  177. # [06:36] <@dolske> mmm, sgml+rdfa will be killer
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  189. # [07:01] <@dolske> didn't someone write a script for dumping out Cocoa (?) system headers in a format directly usuable by js-ctypes?
  190. # [07:01] <@dolske> or am I misremembering that?
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  193. # [07:04] <@dolske> oh, of course. philikon did it. https://github.com/philikon/osxtypes
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  196. # [07:16] <@dolske> aaand now I need to learn about Mach. That sure escalated quickly!
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  292. # [11:55] <gaston> aawtf, seamonkey 2.14beta on top of ffx 18beta ? wasnt seamonkey 2.14 released along ffx 17 ?
  293. # [11:57] <gaston> i'll never understand the millions of tags used in mozilla repo..
  294. # [12:00] <Matti> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20.0 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17a1
  295. # [12:01] <Matti> Firefox18 should be Seamonkey2.15
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  297. # [12:01] <gaston> yeah that's what i'd expect, so that last commit to mozilla-beta looks weird to me :)
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  312. # [12:36] <derf> jesup: I've discussed it with some of those people in-person.
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  328. # [13:33] <NeilAway> gaston: thanks, I think ewong forgot a step somewhere
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  365. # [14:44] <kaie> I want to setup my own replacement for tinderbox.mozilla.org
  366. # [14:45] <kaie> my build slaves will be simply running in a loop, and will report results by email, only.
  367. # [14:45] <kaie> Which of tinderbox v1 , or tinderbox v2, or tinderbox v3 would be the recommended starting point for me?
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  374. # [14:50] <Ms2ger> I don't think I'd recommend any of them :)
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  376. # [14:51] <Ms2ger> But I believe SeaMonkey still uses v1
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  391. # [15:02] <kaie> Ms2ger, thanks. What would you recommend?
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  393. # [15:02] <kaie> I mean, do you want to suggest an alternative?
  394. # [15:04] <Ms2ger> Our current setup is probably too tightly coupled with buildbot to be of use
  395. # [15:04] <Ms2ger> gaston might have something useful, though
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  407. # [15:25] <Optimizer> the "+18 other downloads" item is too large in height
  408. # [15:26] <Optimizer> as compared to show all downloads
  409. # [15:26] <Optimizer> they should have the same height imo
  410. # [15:27] <Ms2ger> File a bug
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  422. # [15:43] <gaston> Ms2ger: i only use plain buildbot without modifications
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  465. # [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e390f459239e - Brian Hackett - Add type specialized paths for instanceof to Ion, bug 814861. r=pierron
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  472. # [17:14] <ekr> Looking at a crash here where I am doing delete NULL;
  473. # [17:14] <ekr> mozalloc's delete does not appear to check for.
  474. # [17:14] <ekr> (but which is legal C++)
  475. # [17:14] <ekr> am I on crack somehow?
  476. # [17:15] <ekr> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/memory/mozalloc/mozalloc.h#222
  477. # [17:21] <kaie> ekr, the linux manpage of "free" says "if ptr is null, no operation". But I don't know about other platforms. I agree that the moz implementation should check for it
  478. # [17:21] <kaie> on which platform do you crash?
  479. # [17:21] <ekr> Mac. But it's now looking like that was a red herring and I am deleting something else.
  480. # [17:22] <ekr> Which isn't to say I don't find the lack of a check scary
  481. # [17:22] <ekr> perhaps C++ does the check before invoking operator delete
  482. # [17:22] <Ms2ger> Nah, free is supposed to check
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  484. # [17:25] <ekr> It's an ISO requirement but here's what H&S has to say "If the argument to the ISO free funciton is a null pointer then the call has no effect. However, passing a null pointer to a traditional free or cfree is known to cause trouble in many non-ISO C implementations"
  485. # [17:25] <ekr> Now in fairness, this is H&S 4ed.
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  497. # [17:58] <jcranmer|away> kaie: the C specification requires that free(NULL) does nothing
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  499. # [18:01] <jcranmer|away> C++11 requires delete NULL to work, but it's unspecified if delete NULL calls free(NULL) or not
  500. # [18:01] <jcranmer|away> or, more specifically:
  501. # [18:02] <jcranmer|away> If the value of the operand of the delete-expression is not a null pointer value, the delete-expression will
  502. # [18:02] <jcranmer|away> call a deallocation function (3.7.4.2). Otherwise, it is unspecified whether the deallocation function will be
  503. # [18:02] <jcranmer|away> called.
  504. # [18:03] <jcranmer|away> sigh
  505. # [18:03] <jcranmer|away> why do people try to justify their claims about what HTML requires you to do
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  507. # [18:03] <jcranmer|away> by citing HTML 4.01?
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  511. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> jcranmer|away, but it's a Rec!
  512. # [18:10] <jcranmer|away> especially when this is an argument over things like "what charset is an HTML file?"
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  514. # [18:14] <Ms2ger> What did HTML4 say about it?
  515. # [18:14] <Ms2ger> Blue?
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  518. # [18:17] <jcranmer|away> I think it requires that you declare something in <meta> or something like that
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  581. # [19:39] <RealRaven> 18:41:04 - RealRaven: HI there? Does anybody know how to find a dialog button. I tried document.getElementsByClassName('dialog-button') but it returns nothing.
  582. # [19:39] <RealRaven> 18:41:49 - RealRaven: I want to add a listener for a right-click event on an dialogextra2 button.
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  590. # [19:46] <panzi> does anyone here know how I start the firefox os simulator addon? what is the chrome url? I just cant find it anywhere
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  601. # [19:56] <panzi> ok, found the url, but no a single button is working. no feedback whatsoever
  602. # [19:57] <Mano> er.. was the "classic" error console removed recently?
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  606. # [19:59] <panzi> omg, why does firefox insist to use google.gr? I'm from Austria!
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  608. # [20:00] <Matti> Mano: ctl+shift+j
  609. # [20:00] <Mano> Matti: doens't work in current nightly
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  611. # [20:01] <Mano> and it's not in the devtools menu
  612. # [20:01] <Mano> scratchpad isn't there either
  613. # [20:01] <Matti> Mano: wfm with a self compiled build from 30min ago
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  615. # [20:02] <Mano> do you see scratchpad in the tools->web developer?
  616. # [20:02] <Mano> oh..
  617. # [20:02] <Mano> i do see them in official nightly
  618. # [20:02] <Mano> but not in my build
  619. # [20:03] <Mano> how odd
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  621. # [20:05] <Matti> yes, it's in the tools menu
  622. # [20:05] <Mano> yes, it's something in my build
  623. # [20:05] <Mano> nvm
  624. # [20:05] <Mano> thanks
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  634. # [20:13] <panzi> and the standalone b2g simulator shows only a white screen after login and tehn crashes
  635. # [20:13] <panzi> gah
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  769. # [23:24] <nigelb> Tommy: For quite a while msdn hompage said "Developers, Developers, Developers" that kept reminding me of that.
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  771. # [23:25] <Tommy> haha
  772. # [23:25] <Tommy> he's insane
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  775. # [23:26] <Tommy> I want b2g on my phone :(
  776. # [23:27] <Hughman> so setting hangmonitor.timeout=10 does not catch the hang I have been getting in Aurora 18
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  788. # [23:35] <clever> is there a mailing list for questions related to nsIX509CertDB ?
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  790. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b816b309e52 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 814927 - gstreamer builds broken by Bug 814284 [r=ehsan]
  791. # [23:36] <biesi_> clever, crypto
  792. # [23:37] <clever> biesi_: doesnt exist at https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/crypto/
  793. # [23:37] <biesi_> clever, http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/#dev-tech-crypto
  794. # [23:37] <clever> ah
  795. # [23:38] <clever> biesi_: do you know much about the crypto code yourself?
  796. # [23:40] <@ehsan> BenWa: I have some time on my hands now, so I'm beating your patch to death :P
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  798. # [23:41] <biesi_> clever, nope, sorry
  799. # [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a2f6f173e52 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 814312 - Avoid PL_ArenaPool recycling in the layout engine. r=roc.
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  815. # [23:46] <ekr> clever: you want bsmith
  816. # [23:46] <ekr> or kaie
  817. # [23:46] <clever> ekr: can i find them on irc, or the mailing list?
  818. # [23:47] <ekr> !kaie
  819. # [23:47] <IanN> you can usually fine kaie on #nss
  820. # [23:47] <ekr> they don't seem to be online now, but in general on IRC, yes
  821. # [23:47] <clever> ok, thanks :)
  822. # [23:47] <IanN> s/fine/find/
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