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78. # [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0c9d5933dcd - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 793719 - Fix for D2D error on shutdown with VS2012. r=bas
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80. # [01:40] <njn> who here understands initWithFuncCallback()? I'm trying to understand exactly what happens when it triggers
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83. # [01:41] <njn> and how... is it signal-based?
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86. # [01:55] <njn> or does it involve the event queue?
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88. # [01:56] <njn> it doesn't seem to be able to break out of an infinite loop, so I'm guessing the latter
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134. # [03:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a355e0709bc2 - Chuck Lee - Bug 796277 - 0001.Save voicemail info in RIL. r=hsinyi
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143. # [03:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3918ed8d7be - Gina Yeh - Bug 814555 - Patch 1: After hanging up the phone, still ring tone from bluetooth, r=echou
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148. # [03:42] <njn> ./xpcom/build/pldhash.o
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170. # [04:19] <Hughman> so what can I do to get you guys information about a hang which cannot be caught with hangmonitor
171. # [04:21] <@roc> which platform?
172. # [04:21] <Hughman> windows 7
173. # [04:21] <@roc> got Visual Studio installed?
174. # [04:22] <Hughman> no i dont
175. # [04:23] <@roc> installing visual C++ Express would help but it's a bit of a pain
176. # [04:23] <@roc> do you get control back eventually?
177. # [04:24] <@roc> if so, Installing the SPS addon would help
178. # [04:24] <Hughman> no, control never comes back and even windows hang detection only starts after I try to close the program
179. # [04:25] <Hughman> it also seems very random
180. # [04:25] <markh> task manager under Win7 has "create dump file" - is that any use here?
181. # [04:25] <markh> roc: that q is for you :)
182. # [04:26] <Hughman> i have process explorer which can do mini/full dumps if that could help
183. # [04:27] <Hughman> could get VS express 2012 also
184. # [04:30] <@roc> WinDBG can also be used
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187. # [04:33] <Hughman> so what is the easiest way or most useful?
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191. # [04:35] <@dolske> have addons installed? easiest first step would be to figure out which (if any) is causing it.
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404. # [09:21] <Yoric> Could someone please unban me from #firefox? I believe that I have found the issue with my irc confic.
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410. # [09:28] <@dolske> Yoric: try again?
411. # [09:28] <Yoric> dolske: Thanks!
412. # [09:29] <@dolske> "1 - #firefox: ban *!Yoric@* [by kbrosnan, 1675791 secs ago]"
413. # [09:29] <@dolske> 19 days!
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415. # [09:29] <Yoric> Yeah, well, I didn't insist, because this reduced my overall irc noise level :)
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418. # [09:34] <kbrosnan> dolske: yeah you were pinging out a ton Yoric.
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420. # [09:34] <Yoric> kbrosnan: Some misconfig with znc, I guess.
421. # [09:35] <kbrosnan> np
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502. # [11:32] <glandium> we don't have tests running on x86 mac, do we?
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504. # [11:32] <glandium> (anymore)
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510. # [11:45] <edmorley> glandium: no
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513. # [11:45] <glandium> edmorley: sadface
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516. # [11:46] <edmorley> glandium: how come?
517. # [11:46] <edmorley> it's EOL now
518. # [11:46] <glandium> edmorley: i wanted to run tests on mac x86
519. # [11:46] <glandium> it's not
520. # [11:47] <edmorley> well 10.5 is
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523. # [11:47] <edmorley> why would anyone run a non-x86-64 binary on 10.6+?
524. # [11:47] <edmorley> plugins?
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526. # [11:47] <glandium> edmorley: for one, 10.6 runs perfectly fine on the first non x86-64 x86 macs
527. # [11:47] <glandium> edmorley: and plugins
528. # [11:48] <glandium> (in fact, 10.6 is the last osx that runs on those macs)
529. # [11:49] <edmorley> I feel your pain, but imo we already give OS X more than it's fair share of infra resources (given we run it on more platforms than windows) relative to its market share
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531. # [11:50] <glandium> edmorley: well, if it was possible to run x86 mac tests on try, that would be enough for me
532. # [11:51] <glandium> although i guess i could just force the mozconfig to just produce the x86 part
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559. # [12:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf5194cff8e1 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 813936 - Update nsHTMLInputElement::GetStepBase() to return the default value if there is no min. r=smaug
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566. # [12:48] <Matti> but we are still shipping an universal build ?
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571. # [12:56] <glandium> Matti: we are
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578. # [13:02] <Matti> we could switch to 64bit builds only for OSX in the future or are there are still many 32bit plugns ?
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580. # [13:03] <Standard8> there's 32 bit macs about that will run 10.6 still
581. # [13:03] <Standard8> I think that's the main reason to not switching to only 64 bit
582. # [13:04] <Standard8> or at least, that's how I understood it last time I asked a related question
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613. # [13:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0da6d7fb2dd3 - Eric Chou - Bug 814376 - Improve the mechanism for setting file extension of a blob, r=sicking
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618. # [13:55] <tzimmermann> mwu: ping
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622. # [14:00] <askalski> hi everyone, as I have no better channel to ask, I will ask here - what is a good scala web framework for dummies?
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668. # [14:47] <RobertClaypool> Why would anyone care if they are running 64 bit or 32bit code as long as the program works?
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672. # [14:49] <edmorley> RobertClaypool: twice the gofaster stripes?
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674. # [14:49] <Standard8> RobertClaypool: 64 > 32, therefore it must be better! </sarcasm>
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677. # [14:52] <Yoric> ttaubert: How often do we wrote PageThumbs?
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679. # [14:52] <ttaubert> Yoric: on every page load, only when the page is currently active tab
680. # [14:53] <Yoric> Thanks.
681. # [14:53] <Yoric> I am currently finishing moving it to OS.File, btw.
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684. # [14:53] <Matti> RobertClaypool: try to load a 2gb image in a 32bit build on windows :-)
685. # [14:54] <ttaubert> Yoric: <3
686. # [14:55] <glob> Matti, on a 64-bit os, that should be possible. firefox is large address aware
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688. # [14:56] <glob> (large address aware executables get 4gb of virtual address space on 64-bit windows)
689. # [14:57] <Ms2ger> There is no 64-bit windows, dammit :)
690. # [14:57] <glob> Ms2ger, i... you... huh?
691. # [14:57] <Matti> glob: I know ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx ) but you need a lot more RAM to decompress a 2gb image :-)
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693. # [14:57] <glob> Matti, not if it's a 2gb bmp :P
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696. # [14:58] <Matti> bmp is no real image format :-)
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699. # [14:58] <glob> Matti, true. i stand corrected
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702. # [14:59] <vicamo> mounir: ping
703. # [14:59] <RobertClaypool> who said anything about decompressing the thing as a whole... back in the old days we went as straight from disk to video memory as possible
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705. # [15:00] <Yoric> ttaubert: Don't hesitate to review my SessionStore patch, btw :)
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708. # [15:04] <ttaubert> Yoric: meh :) currently at the Gaia work week. don't think I can make it this week
709. # [15:05] <Yoric> Come on, you obviously have nothing better to do :)
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711. # [15:06] <mounir> vicamo: pong
712. # [15:07] <glandium> Matti: you're not going to display 2gb worth of image at the same time. we should be able not to need that much memory
713. # [15:07] <glandium> as a matter of fact, i remember the old days where photoshop was just happy opening an image that was much larger than the available RAM
714. # [15:08] <glandium> when RAM was in the order of a few hundreds of MB
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720. # [15:11] <vicamo> mounir: hi
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722. # [15:12] <vicamo> mounir: about bug 778093, patch 1, rename interface name
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724. # [15:12] <vicamo> mounir: do you mean nsIDOMMozCellBroadcast only or every interface?
725. # [15:14] <mounir> vicamo: only nsIDOMNavigatorCellBroadcast
726. # [15:15] <mounir> only the navigator interface
727. # [15:15] <mounir> not the other ones
728. # [15:15] <vicamo> mounir: ok
729. # [15:16] <vicamo> mounir: by the way, how do you think about part 3 now?
730. # [15:16] <vicamo> mounir: do I have to do anything?
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732. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> mounir, can we move Navigator to WebIDL already?
733. # [15:17] <mounir> vicamo: I understand why you did that
734. # [15:17] <mounir> still not a big fan
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736. # [15:18] <mounir> Ms2ger: no idea
737. # [15:19] <vicamo> mounir: I know. Recently I feel we'll have to rewrite them all in IPDL for Multi-SIM
738. # [15:19] <mounir> vicamo: multi-sim is for v1?
739. # [15:19] <vicamo> mounir: not really have to, I mean, it will be more efficient written in IPDL for multi-sim
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741. # [15:20] <mounir> vicamo: ok
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743. # [15:20] <mounir> vicamo: re-ask for the review, I will have another look
744. # [15:20] <Ms2ger> Ugh, JavaScript-navigator-property
745. # [15:20] <vicamo> mounir: no, but we just have almost every step stone set
746. # [15:20] <mounir> Ms2ger: yes :(
747. # [15:20] <Yoric> ttaubert: Also, one question: how public is PageThumbs.jsm?
748. # [15:21] <vicamo> mounir: thx :)
749. # [15:21] <Yoric> i.e. at the moment, |PageThumbs.capture| provides a stream.
750. # [15:21] <Yoric> I would like to rewrite it with a Blob.
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763. # [15:29] <Ms2ger> mounir, is Navigator::EnsureMessagesManager() something I can blame you for?
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772. # [15:36] <ttaubert> Yoric: well... it's there. There might be any add-ons out there using it though I haven't heard of any, yet
773. # [15:37] <Yoric> Never mind, I just added captureToBlob.
774. # [15:37] <mounir> Ms2ger: don't think so
775. # [15:38] <mounir> Ms2ger: my new plan in life is doing nothing so you will no longer be able to blame me for anything
776. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> mounir, I'll blame you for doing nothing instead :)
777. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> You're never safe :)
778. # [15:39] <mounir> Ms2ger: I could just do closed-source work
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792. # [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47465b730696 - Mike Conley - Bug 814509 - Downloads summary background is different from "Show all downloads" button background on winstripe. r=mak.
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804. # [15:58] <jimm> hmm, did we remove tabs on bottom support for some reason?
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810. # [16:01] <edmorley> jimm: no, the option is just not shown on the context menu once turned off
811. # [16:02] <Matti> jimm: yes AFAIK
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813. # [16:02] <edmorley> jimm: about:config remains
814. # [16:02] <jimm> I don't usually get emails from friends about ui changes, but this one generated a few.
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817. # [16:03] <Matti> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/put-tabs-back-on-bottom
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824. # [16:07] <jimm> a friend said this was one of the reasons he stayed with firefox vs. switching to chrome. :/
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831. # [16:10] <bbondy> jimm: there's a massive thread on it here https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/Oral-S5Z8HQ[1-25]
832. # [16:10] <jimm> so here is where he read about it - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-3-aero-theme-for-fi/
833. # [16:11] <jimm> seems we really pissed some people off with that one
834. # [16:11] <bbondy> going on since august
835. # [16:12] <bbondy> that and the x64 turn off
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837. # [16:13] <gcp> I love it how that addon page recommends people to stick with a version with many known security vulnerabilities.
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839. # [16:14] <edmorley> surely recommending that is against AMO policy?
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843. # [16:18] <Matti> we are only at comment#71 in bug 755593. That is still not enough for a good flame bug report
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848. # [16:20] <gcp> That bug has actually many sensible comments.
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851. # [16:20] <_AxS_> glandium: ping; when you have a minute, to discuss direction for the symbol-version fix -- ie, sym-version everything in libxul.so or dynamically generate symbol list from libjs_static.a first? tests symver'ing everything in libxul worked fine for me and file size was identical to the js-only-symbol-versioned version
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875. # [16:48] <Yoric> Is there a way to instantiate a FileReader from chrome?
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877. # [16:48] <Yoric> Ah, nsIDOMFileReader.
878. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> new FileReader()?
879. # [16:50] <Yoric> Doesn't seem to work.
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884. # [16:53] <glazou> Yoric: works for me
885. # [16:53] <Yoric> Mmmhh...
886. # [16:53] <Yoric> I have a ReferenceError with FileReader undefined.
887. # [16:53] <Yoric> Otoh, it seems to work nicely with nsIDOMFileReader.
888. # [16:54] <glazou> you're sure you don't have a bad nightly ?
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890. # [16:55] <@gavin> what "chrome"?
891. # [16:56] <@gavin> i.e. in which context? JS module?
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894. # [16:57] <Yoric> In a JS module, yes.
895. # [16:57] <@gavin> you don't get the DOM magic there
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898. # [16:58] <@gavin> like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.cpp#1793, perhaps?
899. # [16:58] <glazou> Yoric: eh, if you don't give us the important bits, how can we help...
900. # [16:58] <Yoric> Sorry about that :)
901. # [16:59] <Yoric> I wonder if I should file a bug about that.
902. # [16:59] <Yoric> Let's.
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905. # [17:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/491736c9cddc - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 807998 - Turn on memory.free_dirty_pages in Fennec. r=jlebar
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909. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> Yoric, please do, I'd probably like to remove the nsIDOM at some point :)
910. # [17:01] <Yoric> :)
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912. # [17:01] <Yoric> Any suggested component?
913. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> core::dom
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915. # [17:03] -sheeri:#developers- I have taken webdev1 out of the loop, webdev2 is the master. If folks have issues with that it's my fault (aka cm-webdev)
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924. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> Is it possible to configure Firefox to never open popup windows for a specific site, even if I'm clicking?
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928. # [17:12] <Matti> disable JS ?
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931. # [17:15] <edmorley> bsmedberg: I've previously implemented site-specific greasemonkey scripts to do that, I don't think there is another way
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935. # [17:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57e1c40c89c5 - Jonathan Kew - bug 814383 - fix javascript strict-mode warnings in browser.js. r=gavin
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944. # [17:24] <Ms2ger> $ thunderbird
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946. # [17:24] <Ms2ger> this should not be happening! arrgggggh!
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948. # [17:25] <mounir> Ms2ger: using thunderbird?
949. # [17:26] <Ms2ger> And have for years
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952. # [17:26] <mounir> Ms2ger: sure, me too but "this should not happening"... what?
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955. # [17:26] <evilpie> smaug, bz: in bug 676619, should i remove forceDownload and use nsAString filename for that? and isVoid() would indicate no forced name?
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957. # [17:26] <evilpie> this is how i understand it
958. # [17:28] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, do I blame you for that error message?
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962. # [17:30] <jcranmer> what?
963. # [17:30] <jcranmer> probably not
964. # [17:30] <jcranmer> I think that sounds like something asuth wrote
965. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> asutherland@2229
966. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> 124 dump("this should not be happening! arrgggggh!\n");
967. # [17:31] <Ms2ger> You earn one internet, sir
968. # [17:31] <@smaug> evilpie: sounds ok
969. # [17:31] <mounir> impressive
970. # [17:32] <evilpie> smaug: okay great, going to rework the patch
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975. # [17:35] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: nice, arrgggggh has 1 hit in mxr
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977. # [17:36] <NeilAway> is
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990. # [17:45] <Yoric> ttaubert: Lucky you, I have just added a bug to your review queue.
991. # [17:45] * Yoric will start nagging people tomorrow.
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993. # [17:45] <Yoric> s/bug/patch/
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999. # [17:47] <ttaubert> Yoric: can't wait :)
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1011. # [17:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/945c5525b191 - Kyle Huey - Bug 813766: Set EXPORTED_SYMBOLS on this instead of the global. r=gps
1012. # [17:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/532c363394cb - Kyle Huey - Bug 814104: Create the function in the right compartment. r=dcamp
1013. # [17:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0c8743ce12a - Kyle Huey - Bug 813762: Teach OS.File about compartment sharing. r=mrbkap
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1044. # [18:15] <jimm> wtf is soundtouch.dll, and why does my xpcshell.exe rely on it
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1048. # [18:16] <@ehsan> jimm: http://www.surina.net/soundtouch/README.html
1049. # [18:16] <@khuey> jimm: it's code we ship that has to be in a separate shared library because of the LGPL
1050. # [18:16] <jimm> it's in our tree now apparently
1051. # [18:17] <jimm> has this been on mc for a while?
1052. # [18:17] <@khuey> yeah
1053. # [18:17] <glandium> jimm: a few weeks
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1055. # [18:17] <glandium> khuey: actually, we're going to statically link it
1056. # [18:17] <padenot> I should upload a patch to do that, actually
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1058. # [18:18] <padenot> it is sitting on a machine somewhere
1059. # [18:18] <glandium> padenot: btw, have you got an a+ for the removal patch for aurora yet?
1060. # [18:18] <@khuey> glandium: hmm, what happened to the licensing issues?
1061. # [18:18] <padenot> glandium: yes, and it has been pushed, all is good
1062. # [18:19] <glandium> padenot: ah cool, thanks
1063. # [18:19] <glandium> khuey: they weren't issues
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1065. # [18:19] <padenot> khuey: the author somehow does not care if we link it statically or dynamically
1066. # [18:19] <padenot> as written on his website
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1068. # [18:19] <@bz> Anyone seen bas online recently?
1069. # [18:19] <padenot> a couple hours ago, yes
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1071. # [18:20] <@bz> ok, thanks
1072. # [18:20] <@khuey> padenot: I see
1073. # [18:20] <TheOne> mconnor: ping
1074. # [18:20] <@khuey> padenot: so that thing we did to get the licensing info correct in the binary was a waste of time? :-P
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1077. # [18:21] <glandium> khuey: independently of what padenot says, lgpl allows to statically link, provided some arrangements
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1079. # [18:21] <padenot> khuey: it was indeed a waste of time
1080. # [18:21] <@khuey> glandium: interesting, didn't know that
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1086. # [18:23] <glandium> khuey: fwiw, the flash plugin used to statically link libesd (iirc), and did fulfil the lgpl provisions
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1089. # [18:24] <glandium> so yeah, even closed source software can statically link with lgpl
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1092. # [18:26] * @bz wishes he could build 64-bit on Linux
1093. # [18:26] <glandium> bz: why can't you?
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1095. # [18:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e97c5392d81 - Brian Hackett - Factor common register allocation code and add integrity checker to RegisterAllocator.h, add baseline StupidAllocator, bug 812945. r=jandem
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1101. # [18:30] <@bz> glandium: because it doesn't compile
1102. # [18:30] <glandium> bz: gcc? clang?
1103. # [18:30] <@bz> glandium: at least against gtk 2.18
1104. # [18:30] <@bz> glandium: gcc, but I doubt that part matters
1105. # [18:30] <glandium> bz: paste your error
1106. # [18:30] * @bz will need to do another build for that
1107. # [18:31] <@bz> one sec
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1111. # [18:33] <@bz> Or more precisely "10 mins"
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1117. # [18:36] <jcranmer> firefox 17 seems not to like my nightly profile?
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1120. # [18:37] <glandium> jcranmer: mac?
1121. # [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1810ed09e09 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 813211 - Remove unneeded includes and forward declarations for threading code; r=hsivonen
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1123. # [18:38] <jcranmer> windows
1124. # [18:39] <glandium> jcranmer: does it hang at 100% cpu ?
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1126. # [18:39] <jcranmer> yep
1127. # [18:39] <glandium> have you tried getting a backtrace?
1128. # [18:39] <glandium> if so, is it in ReadAnnotatesomething?
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1130. # [18:39] <jcranmer> no, I have not tried
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1133. # [18:41] <glandium> jcranmer: if you see it is in ReadAnnotationEntry, then we have the same problem
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1136. # [18:44] <bjacob> vladan: got the dashboard now
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1138. # [18:44] <vladan> bjacob: be right there
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1144. # [18:48] <jfkthame> jcranmer: glandium: that sounds like bug 807102
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1151. # [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abfb3201b753 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 564815 - Tests for window.devicePixelRatio
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1153. # [18:49] <@bz> glandium: still there?
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1158. # [18:50] <glandium> bz: yup
1159. # [18:50] <glandium> jfkthame: yeah, that matches what i saw
1160. # [18:50] <@bz> mozilla% make -C ../obj-firefox-opt/widget/gtk2/
1161. # [18:50] <@bz> nsPrintDialogGTK.cpp
1162. # [18:50] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/widget/gtk2/nsPrintDialogGTK.cpp: In function b
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1164. # [18:50] <@bz> er...
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1166. # [18:51] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/widget/gtk2/nsPrintDialogGTK.cpp: In function 'void ShowCustomDialog(GtkComboBox*, void*)':
1167. # [18:51] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/widget/gtk2/nsPrintDialogGTK.cpp:112: error: cast from 'void*' to 'gint' loses precision
1168. # [18:51] <@bz> Line 112 is:
1169. # [18:51] <@bz> gint previous_active = GPOINTER_TO_INT(g_object_get_data(G_OBJECT(changed_box), "previous-active"));
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1171. # [18:52] * @khuey mumbles something about warnings as errors
1172. # [18:53] <jfkthame> bz: what version of gcc are you on? it's been building ok for me on linux64
1173. # [18:53] * edmorley is now known as edmorley|mtg
1174. # [18:53] <jfkthame> (though it may be building a broken product, of course)
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1178. # [18:55] <glandium> bz: that's ... interesting
1179. # [18:55] <@bz> jfkthame: 4.4
1180. # [18:55] <@bz> jfkthame: what's important here, afaict, is the GTK version, not the gcc version
1181. # [18:55] <@bz> khuey: That dir does not have -Werror, does it?
1182. # [18:55] <jfkthame> yeah, probably… this GPOINTER_TO_INT thing sounds worrying
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1184. # [18:56] <jcranmer> jfkthame: yep, exactly what I'm seeing too
1185. # [18:56] * jimm is now known as jimm-lunch
1186. # [18:56] <@ehsan> edmorley|mtg: we seem to have no builds on mozilla-central...
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1188. # [18:57] <edmorley|mtg> ehsan: I can take a look in 20
1189. # [18:57] <@ehsan> ok thanks
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1191. # [18:57] <aceman> hi, what is the bugzilla component for skia?
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1194. # [18:57] <glandium> jfkthame: it's interesting that clang doesn't even barf a warning to me
1195. # [18:57] <glandium> aceman: gfx?
1196. # [18:58] <@bz> What GTK version do you have?
1197. # [18:58] <@bz> What does your .i file look like for that line?
1198. # [18:58] <@bz> Mine is:
1199. # [18:58] <aceman> glandium: core/graphics?
1200. # [18:58] <@bz> gint previous_active = ((gint) (g_object_get_data(((((GObject*) g_type_check_instance_cast ((GTypeInstance*) ((changed_box)), (((GType) ((20) << (2)))))))), "previous-active")));
1201. # [18:58] <glandium> bz: 2.24
1202. # [18:58] <@bz> Try with 2.18. ;)
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1204. # [18:59] <glandium> aha, gint previous_active = ((gint) (glong) (g_object_get_data(((((GObject*) g_type_check_instance_cast ((GTypeInstance*) ((changed_box)), (((GType) ((20) << (2)))))))), "previous-active")));
1205. # [18:59] <@bz> uh-huh
1206. # [18:59] <@bz> So GTK changed GPOINTER_TO_INT to shut this up
1207. # [18:59] <@ehsan> edmorley|mtg: oh, false alarm. the thing that you merged to central was DONTBUILD!
1208. # [18:59] <glandium> bz: more likely g_object_get_data
1209. # [18:59] <edmorley|mtg> ehsan: ah, ha
1210. # [18:59] <edmorley|mtg> true
1211. # [18:59] <Jesse_> ehsan: should we make DONTBUILD be a per-commit thing rather than a per-push thing?
1212. # [18:59] <glandium> ah no, it's a plain function
1213. # [19:00] <@bz> yeah
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1215. # [19:00] <@ehsan> Jesse_: I think that would make sense
1216. # [19:00] <@bz> Anyway
1217. # [19:00] * @ehsan files a bug
1218. # [19:00] <glandium> #define GPOINTER_TO_INT(p)((gint) (glong) (p))
1219. # [19:01] <glandium> bz: since we're supposed to build against any gtk version since 2.10, you can file a bug
1220. # [19:01] <@bz> glandium: oh, we are?
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1222. # [19:02] <@bz> glandium: filing. Last I brought this up I was told I just needed to upgrade gtk... ;)
1223. # [19:02] <@bz> glandium: which component do you want this in?
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1225. # [19:02] <@bz> widget:gtk ?
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1227. # [19:02] <glandium> bz: yeah
1228. # [19:02] <glandium> bz: that being said, our build slaves are using 2.18 too
1229. # [19:03] <@bz> interesting
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1233. # [19:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/597915b66059 - Ehsan Akhgari - Empty commit to trigger builds, no bug
1234. # [19:03] <@bz> I wonder why they work, then....
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1236. # [19:04] <@bz> I suppose I could play with the mozconfig to see whether it's some option I have in there
1237. # [19:04] <firebot> Check-in:
1238. # [19:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a9cb961441d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 815001 - Pass in the privacy information for the view sourced document to the web browser persist service when using an external view source program; r=jdm
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1240. # [19:04] <glandium> bz: what glib version do you have?
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1242. # [19:04] <Jesse_> ehsan: thanks
1243. # [19:05] <@ehsan> np
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1245. # [19:05] <Jesse_> ehsan: i'll probably be landing lots of DONTBUILD stuff over the next few weeks, btw!
1246. # [19:05] <@ehsan> how come?
1247. # [19:05] <@bz> glandium: 1.2 and 2.22
1248. # [19:05] <@bz> glandium: for glib and glib2 respectively
1249. # [19:05] <Jesse_> ehsan: valgrind suppressions to get reftest & mochitest green
1250. # [19:05] <@ehsan> nice!
1251. # [19:06] <Jesse_> ehsan: it's a Q4 goal for me. but so are a lot of other things :(
1252. # [19:06] <@ehsan> it would be so nice to get valgrind working on our test frameworks though \o/
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1254. # [19:07] <glandium> bz: so, it would seem your glib is broken
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1256. # [19:07] <Jesse_> ehsan: valgrind works. it's just... false positives, bugs, and bogus timeouts
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1258. # [19:07] <glandium> bz: what ends up in glibconfig.h depends on configure time stuff, and when building for 64 bits architectures, you end up with #define GPOINTER_TO_INT(p)((gint) (glong) (p))
1259. # [19:08] <glandium> bz: if you don't, then there's something wrong with your system or with your glib.
1260. # [19:08] <glandium> bz: for instance, could it be that the glib headers are those of the 32-bits variant?
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1262. # [19:09] <@bz> glandium: I don't know
1263. # [19:09] <@bz> glandium: I have both glib2-devel-2.22.5-1.fc12.x86_64 and glib2-devel-2.22.5-1.fc12.i686
1264. # [19:10] <@bz> glandium: I'm happy to look at whatever you tell me to look at!
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1269. # [19:11] <_AxS_> glandium: got a sec?
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1271. # [19:11] <edmorley> ehsan: would a self-serve dep build request have worked?
1272. # [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1817f6bc2681 - Tim Taubert - Bug 813277 - Unable to long-tap hold on the home-screen to invoke the wallpaper menu r=smaug
1273. # [19:11] <@bz> And in particular, I have both /usr/lib/glib-2.0/include/glibconfig.h and /usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include/glibconfig.h
1274. # [19:12] <mcsmurf> !seen anant
1275. # [19:12] <@ehsan> edmorley: not sure
1276. # [19:12] <edmorley> ehsan: and thank you for spotting the no builds, onlyunstarred=1 meant I hadn't seen
1277. # [19:12] <firebot> anant was last seen 9 days, 19 hours, 32 minutes and 24 seconds ago, saying 'abr: likewise, I've heard a lot about you from ekr :) all the best, you're going to rock webrtc at moz I have no doubt' in #media.
1278. # [19:12] <glandium> bz: what is MOZ_GTK2_CFLAGS in config/autoconf.mk ?
1279. # [19:12] <ekr> mcsmurf: anant is no longer at Moz so you will probably see less of him.
1280. # [19:12] * @bz looks
1281. # [19:12] <mcsmurf> oh ok
1282. # [19:12] <ekr> do you need something media-related?
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1285. # [19:13] <@bz> MOZ_GTK2_CFLAGS = -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0
1286. # [19:13] <mcsmurf> ekr: heh, no, just wanted to tell him what was the cause of one test failure I told him a few weeks ago
1287. # [19:13] <jesup> mcsmurf: you can generally ask any WebRTC/getUserMedia questions in #media
1288. # [19:13] <@bz> lib, not lib64?
1289. # [19:13] <mcsmurf> ekr: it's not that important ;)
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1291. # [19:14] <@bz> -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
1292. # [19:14] <@bz> That part
1293. # [19:14] <jesup> mcsmurf: ok, if it's still useful we can take it
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1298. # [19:15] <mcsmurf> jesup: already fixed the bug myself :) something in services/aitc/tests/unit/test_storage_registry.js broke because of a code problem in dom/apps/src/AppsUtils.jsm
1299. # [19:15] <mcsmurf> sometimes finding the cause of a test failure takes a bit longer
1300. # [19:15] <jesup> ok, thanks
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1302. # [19:15] <glandium> bz: must be a pkgconfig problem, then
1303. # [19:16] <glandium> bz: i don't know how it's supposed to work with multiarch on fedora
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1305. # [19:16] <@bz> glandium: hmm
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1309. # [19:18] <_AxS_> bz: on fedora, is 'lib' 32bit or a symlink to either lib32 or lib64 ?
1310. # [19:18] <@bz> 'lib' is 32-bit
1311. # [19:18] <@bz> lib64 is 64-bit
1312. # [19:18] <@bz> afaict
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1314. # [19:19] <hub> yep
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1316. # [19:19] <_AxS_> k. different systems do different things, wanted to be sure
1317. # [19:19] <hub> and on Debian lib is the native one, and lib32 is the 32 bits on 64 bits
1318. # [19:19] <@bz> right
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1321. # [19:19] <_AxS_> on gentoo 'lib' is a symlink to either lib32 or lib64 depending on which is native
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1324. # [19:19] <glandium> bz: do you have two different pkg-config scripts?
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1327. # [19:20] <@bz> glandium: I only see a /usr/bin/pkg-config
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1330. # [19:20] <_AxS_> bz: /usr/lib*/pkgconfig/*.pc
1331. # [19:20] <@bz> /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc
1332. # [19:20] <@bz> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc
1333. # [19:20] <evilpie> bz: doing nsAutoString voidString; voidString.SetIsVoid(true) is very annoying can i put a inline function for that into nsStringAPI.h ?
1334. # [19:21] <glandium> bz: try setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib64/pkg-config
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1338. # [19:21] <@bz> glandium: in my mozconfig?
1339. # [19:21] <_AxS_> glandium: bz: possible ./configure just needs a --libdir=/usr/lib64 ?
1340. # [19:21] <glandium> bz: export it from your mozconfig, yeah
1341. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> evilpie, NullString()
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1343. # [19:22] <@bz> evilpie: what are you trying to do?
1344. # [19:22] <@bz> /usr/lib64/pkg-config does not exist
1345. # [19:22] <_AxS_> bz: s/-//
1346. # [19:22] <glandium> bz: err /usr/lib64/pkgconfig
1347. # [19:23] <@bz> aha
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1349. # [19:23] <jez> http://www.game-point.net/misc/browserTests/scratchpads/fullTableCellHeight/
1350. # [19:23] <@bz> yeah, this should do the trick
1351. # [19:23] <@bz> thanks!
1352. # [19:23] <@ehsan> firebot: cid
1353. # [19:23] <firebot> {0xbd8e43c2, 0x9abd, 0x42b2, {0xab, 0x77, 0xa7, 0x85, 0x4e, 0x0b, 0xad, 0x28}}
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1356. # [19:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c82d72881ba6 - Josh Matthews - Bug 814513 - Enable browser_save_link-perwindowpb.js. r=ehsan
1357. # [19:23] <jez> Is there any way to set the height of a child element to the full height of a parent element, if the parent element hasn't had its height set explicitly?
1358. # [19:23] <evilpie> bz: working on my bug again, and i often have to pass a void string to say "no forced download"
1359. # [19:24] <@bz> jez: per spec, no
1360. # [19:24] <@bz> evilpie: What Ms2ger said: NullString()
1361. # [19:24] <jez> isn't that worthy of a fix in css3?
1362. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> Let's introduce another css3 layout model
1363. # [19:24] <jez> like, "if height of parent element hasn't been set explicitly, height:100% will use the calculated height of parent element"?
1364. # [19:24] <@bz> jez: the problem is that the height of the parent depends on the height of the child in cases like that
1365. # [19:24] <@bz> jez: so you get obvious problems
1366. # [19:24] <jez> huh?
1367. # [19:25] <jez> how does it depend on the height of the child
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1369. # [19:25] <@bz> Because it's not set explicitly
1370. # [19:25] <@bz> and auto heights depend on kids
1371. # [19:25] <jez> i don't see how that would cause a problem
1372. # [19:26] <@bz> <div><div style="height: 100%">a</div><div style="height: 100%">b</div></div>
1373. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> Whee
1374. # [19:26] <@bz> What's the height of the parent and why? What are the heights of the kids and why?
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1376. # [19:27] <jez> bz: well, the parent defaults to 0px, but is pushed to the height of the tallest child
1377. # [19:27] <jez> so all children are the height of the tallest child
1378. # [19:27] <@bz> jez: no, false
1379. # [19:27] <@bz> jez: auto height block heights are the sum of their child heights
1380. # [19:28] <jez> auto height block heights?
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1383. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> Don't ever try to argue CSS layout with bz :)
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1385. # [19:28] <@bz> jez: The parent in this case is a block with height:auto
1386. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> Or dbaron, for that matter
1387. # [19:28] <@bz> jez: so you follow the rules in http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#normal-block
1388. # [19:28] <jez> Ms2ger: im discussing. i'd like to be able to get round this problem
1389. # [19:29] <@bz> jez: basically, the only way to size things based on the size of the container is if the size of the container does not depend on the size of said things
1390. # [19:29] <jez> bz: what about with table layout?
1391. # [19:29] <@bz> jez: you have the same problem
1392. # [19:29] <@bz> jez: since cell heights depend on the contents of the cell and how tall that is
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1394. # [19:30] <jez> bz: i don't agree with that statement
1395. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> :)
1396. # [19:30] <@bz> Um....
1397. # [19:30] <jez> you can size the container based on contents *which have an intrinsic size*, then size the rest of the contents
1398. # [19:30] <@bz> It's a statement of fact
1399. # [19:30] <jez> how is that not possible?
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1401. # [19:30] <@bz> Well, sure
1402. # [19:30] <@bz> You can do that
1403. # [19:30] <@bz> You'll just get overflow in various cases
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1405. # [19:31] <jez> which cases?
1406. # [19:31] <@bz> Well, the case I pasted above, yes?
1407. # [19:31] <jez> why?
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1409. # [19:31] <@bz> Think through it.
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1412. # [19:31] <mbrubeck> smaug: For bugs like 814477 are you referring to the "Metro" UI available in elm builds, or to the classic/desktop UI?
1413. # [19:32] <jez> bz: you mean the example with a div containing two divs?
1414. # [19:32] <@bz> yes
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1416. # [19:32] <@bz> Or anything else along similar lines:
1417. # [19:33] <@bz> <td><div style="height: 100%">a</div>b</td>
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1419. # [19:33] <@bz> This is what CSS basically does for shrink-wrapping horizontally
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1421. # [19:33] <@bz> Sort of
1422. # [19:33] <@bz> In practice, smarter things than what you described happen with % there
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1424. # [19:34] <RobertClaypool> Show the NCIS url again :)
1425. # [19:34] <@smaug> mbrubeck: both
1426. # [19:34] <@smaug> IIRC
1427. # [19:34] <@smaug> at least Metro
1428. # [19:34] <RobertClaypool> Maybe that'll clear things up
1429. # [19:34] <jez> bz: what seems to be happening is that unless the parent TD is set explicitly, height:100% does nothing.
1430. # [19:35] <@smaug> mbrubeck: I don't have such device myself so I went to a shop and installed elm to various win8 laptops :)
1431. # [19:35] * jimm-lunch is now known as jimm
1432. # [19:36] <@smaug> mbrubeck: and sorry if I didn't look for all the dups. I filed the bugs using my n900
1433. # [19:36] <jez> bz: example at http://www.game-point.net/misc/browserTests/scratchpads/fullTableCellHeight/
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1435. # [19:36] <RobertClaypool> How long ago was that?
1436. # [19:37] <@bz> jez: that's what the spec requires right now, yes
1437. # [19:37] <jez> so is it proposed that the CSS3 spec do something else?
1438. # [19:37] <@bz> jez: see http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#the-height-property under "<percentage>"
1439. # [19:37] <@bz> jez: not so far.
1440. # [19:37] <jez> why not>?
1441. # [19:38] <@bz> jez: no one cares, mostly
1442. # [19:38] <jez> buggwer.
1443. # [19:38] <jez> -w
1444. # [19:38] <@bz> jez: also, there would be a good chance it would break web compat
1445. # [19:38] <RobertClaypool> Wouldn't have happened to have been just before Hurricane Sandy?
1446. # [19:38] <Asa> anyone seeing pop-ups failing to be blocked in Firefox 17 or newer lately?
1447. # [19:38] <@bz> jez: you are, of course, free to propose it yourself.
1448. # [19:38] <Asa> like several a day that used to be blocked?
1449. # [19:38] <jez> bz: you see that example I gave?
1450. # [19:38] <@bz> jez: www-style is a public mailing list
1451. # [19:38] <@bz> jez: I saw the example
1452. # [19:38] <@smaug> evilpie: ah... I totally forgot that I added NullString() at some point :)
1453. # [19:38] <jez> bz: imagine that grey test div is a button, and I want it to expand to the full height of the row. doesn't that seem like a reasonable design to want?
1454. # [19:38] <@bz> jez: in that example, the cell height depends on the contents of the div, of course
1455. # [19:39] <@bz> jez: Sure
1456. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> jez, you're talking web standards... There's a reason #whatwg has "Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!" in its topic
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1458. # [19:39] <jez> bz: so it's literally impossible to get that design?
1459. # [19:39] <@bz> jez: In the special case when the cell only has one child
1460. # [19:39] <@bz> jez: right now, yes
1461. # [19:39] <mbrubeck> smaug: Okay, thanks. :)
1462. # [19:40] <@bz> jez: (partly due to UA bugs; otherwise you might have been able to do it with abspos and screw the case when the button text is tall)
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1466. # [19:40] <jez> bz: what was that about the special case?
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1468. # [19:41] <@bz> jez: it's a reasonable thing to want in that special case
1469. # [19:41] <jez> ah
1470. # [19:41] <@bz> jez: of course one could argue that <button style="display: table-cell"> is the right approach there, if it actually worked in browsers
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1475. # [19:43] <jez> bz: i still don't understand why you could get overflow if you base the container's size on the size of contents that have an intrinsic size... how can I understand?
1476. # [19:44] <evilpie> smaug: shall i only rewrite the other string params of OnLinkClick or also of InternalLoad?
1477. # [19:44] <@bz> jez: just think about what the layout will be in the case of two child divs each with height:100%
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1479. # [19:44] <@bz> try to draw it on a piece of paper
1480. # [19:44] <jez> yeah, i think i can draw it
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1482. # [19:44] <@smaug> evilpie: OnLinkClick only could be enough
1483. # [19:45] <@smaug> that is part of some API
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1489. # [19:47] <jez> bz: http://www.game-point.net/misc/divs.png
1490. # [19:47] <jez> see :-)
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1492. # [19:47] <@bz> jez: you fail
1493. # [19:47] <@bz> jez: those are blocks, not inlines
1494. # [19:48] <@bz> jez: so they stack vertically, not horizontally
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1496. # [19:48] <jez> how do you know they're not inlines?
1497. # [19:48] <@bz> jez: because they're <div>s
1498. # [19:49] <taras> biesi_: are you still planning to review 789932?
1499. # [19:49] <Ms2ger> <div style=display:inline>
1500. # [19:49] <Ms2ger> A-ha!
1501. # [19:49] <@bz> jez: See http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/rendering.html#flow-content-1
1502. # [19:49] <jez> bz: ok, then say that the container div is a table and these are td's
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1505. # [19:49] <@bz> jez: in that case, the situation is a completely different one
1506. # [19:49] <@bz> Ms2ger: in which case "height" styles are ignored.
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1508. # [19:50] <jez> bz: would there potentially be overflow?
1509. # [19:50] <@bz> jez: not vertically, obviously
1510. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> bz, I should have known not to try you :)
1511. # [19:50] <@bz> jez: but that case has nothing to do with the case I pointed out, of course
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1515. # [19:51] <jez> bz: so in that case, height:100% could reasonably base itself on the calculated height of the container
1516. # [19:51] <jez> without overflow
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1518. # [19:51] <@bz> jez: well, the cells might still overflow
1519. # [19:51] <@bz> jez: depending on what's in them
1520. # [19:51] <@bz> jez: and if a cell has height: 200%...
1521. # [19:51] <@bz> jez: you just lose
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1523. # [19:52] <jez> assuming that no cell has a height over 100%
1524. # [19:52] <jez> how could there be overflow?
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1526. # [19:52] <jez> the container would expand to the height of the highest cell
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1529. # [19:53] <@bz> no
1530. # [19:53] <@bz> it would expand to the largest intrinsic height
1531. # [19:53] <@bz> which is not the same thing
1532. # [19:53] <RobertClaypool> What would be a case where someone would want a height over 100% anyways?
1533. # [19:54] <jez> you mean a border could overflow
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1539. # [19:55] <@bz> no
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1542. # [19:55] <@bz> I mean that the cells could have percentage-height kids
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1545. # [19:55] <@bz> Which might then overflow the cells
1546. # [19:55] <RobertClaypool> Then the sensible thing to do would to Normalize them.
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1548. # [19:56] <@bz> this conversation is starting to lose value
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1550. # [19:56] <jez> ok well anyway, wouldn't height:100% using the calculated intrinsic height instead of giving up be a more intuative and useful behaviour?
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1557. # [19:58] <@bz> glandium: fwiw, build seems to be working now
1558. # [19:58] <@bz> glandium: thanks!
1559. # [19:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79f4a4713ce5 - Suhas Nandakumar - Bug 814734 - Fixed Log format string mismatches r=ekr
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1561. # [20:00] <RobertClaypool> What's the version of python currently shipping with moztools? Mine's reporting 2.7.2 and is crashing during the build.
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1563. # [20:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07de92db4ff6 - Josh Matthews - Bug 815229 - Make search completion test for private browsing test all autocomplete entries. r=ehsan
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1572. # [20:07] <RobertClaypool> Oh and I'm building on 32-bit windows
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1574. # [20:08] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: no error message, just the crash?
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1576. # [20:08] <mcsmurf> but using Python 2.7.2 sounds perfectly fine
1577. # [20:08] <RobertClaypool> Yes, no error message
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1579. # [20:09] <mcsmurf> mine also says 2.7.2 (Windows)
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1582. # [20:09] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: it's crashing right at the beginning?
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1585. # [20:10] <RobertClaypool> No, it crashes well into the build.
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1589. # [20:11] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: with pymake?
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1591. # [20:11] <hub> I seems that BrowserID is broken in Nightly
1592. # [20:12] <hub> can't get the login for airmozilla
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1594. # [20:12] <RobertClaypool> h:/m-c/mozilla-central/obj-i686-pc-mingw32/_virtualenv/Scripts/python.exe /h/m-c/mozilla-central/config/nsinstall.py -t -m 644 xul.dll ../../dist/bin
1595. # [20:12] <RobertClaypool> No, just with make
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1597. # [20:14] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: that's the last message on the console?
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1602. # [20:15] <RobertClaypool> A bunch of Make: leaving directory messages
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1605. # [20:16] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: and the nsinstall.py message, when did this occu?
1606. # [20:16] <mcsmurf> r
1607. # [20:16] <mcsmurf> a bit before that?
1608. # [20:16] <RobertClaypool> yes
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1611. # [20:17] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: maybe try installing another Python version, not sure.. http://www.python.org/download/releases/
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1613. # [20:17] <mcsmurf> but only 2.6.8 and 2.7.3 will work
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1615. # [20:18] <mcsmurf> 3.0.1 is too new and 2.5.6 too old
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1617. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0e7e7d26f56 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 814738 - Modernize Traverse for nsTObserverArray. r=smaug
1618. # [20:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e86251ad8e8a - Andrew McCreight - Bug 814453 - Eliminate NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_UNLINK_NATIVE_0 and NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_NATIVE_BEGIN. r=smaug
1619. # [20:18] <ekw> jdm: Thanks for your comment on bug 800195. working on it now and will run suggested tests when done.
1620. # [20:18] <mcsmurf> RobertClaypool: your disk does not happen to run out of free diskspace?
1621. # [20:19] <ekw> jdm: I also found this test: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/test/unit/test_privacy_transition.js Looks like it should be removed?
1622. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a18061fec2e - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 792373: XHDPI and XXHDPI icons for Fennec. [r=mfinkle]
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1624. # [20:19] <fxa90id> hi
1625. # [20:19] <RobertClaypool> No disks are complaining... and m-c is on a multiterabyte drive
1626. # [20:19] <fxa90id> is visual express c++ enought to run firefox ?
1627. # [20:19] <RobertClaypool> C: has 3 GB free
1628. # [20:19] <Matti> fxa90id: run or build ?
1629. # [20:19] <fxa90id> build ;p
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1631. # [20:20] <Mook_as> RobertClaypool: out of curiosity, could you pastebin the error bits (hopefully there's more context) somewhere?
1632. # [20:20] <mcsmurf> fxa90id: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites says it's enough
1633. # [20:20] <Matti> fxa90id: yes : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites
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1635. # [20:20] <fxa90id> :D
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1637. # [20:20] <fxa90id> thanks matt mcsmurf
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1639. # [20:21] <jdm> ekw: yes, quite :)
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1642. # [20:23] <evilpie> wow Ms2ger https://metrics.mozilla.com/data/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=community&path=%2Fdashboards&file=contributorMap.wcdf
1643. # [20:23] * armenzg_brb is now known as armenzg
1644. # [20:23] <evilpie> cheers
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1647. # [20:24] <evilpie> ah damn the URI doesn't update
1648. # [20:24] <jdm> yeah
1649. # [20:24] <jdm> it is not the very best interface
1650. # [20:24] <RobertClaypool> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1961356
1651. # [20:24] <@dbaron> <<< 550 5.1.1 <dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org>: Recipient address rejected: User
1652. # [20:24] <@dbaron> unknown in local recipient table
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1654. # [20:24] <@dbaron> ^ that seems broken
1655. # [20:25] <ekw> jdm: So I just have to delete the file and remove line 11 from here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/test/unit/xpcshell.ini ?
1656. # [20:25] <jdm> ekw: yep
1657. # [20:25] <evilpie> in my graph you can pretty much see my holidays :)
1658. # [20:25] <jdm> ha
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1664. # [20:26] <evilpie> click for details results in [Access Denied or File Not Found.]
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1666. # [20:26] <jdm> where's that link?
1667. # [20:26] * glob is now known as glob|away
1668. # [20:27] <evilpie> when you click on a name
1669. # [20:27] <evilpie> hover over the dot of the graph
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1671. # [20:27] <@bz> dbaron: jorendorff was complaining about not being able to post to dev-tech-js-engine-internals too
1672. # [20:28] <@dbaron> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815259
1673. # [20:28] * AutomatedTester|away is now known as AutomatedTester
1674. # [20:29] <cpeterson> github also has some cool graphs of mozilla-central activity: https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/graphs/code-frequency
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1676. # [20:29] <cpeterson> ^ any insight into why so many lines of code were deleted and added in May/June?
1677. # [20:30] <@bsmedberg> we
1678. # [20:30] <@bsmedberg> need to delete more code
1679. # [20:30] <@khuey> probably moving code around
1680. # [20:30] <gaston> cpeterson: print -> stdint migration ?
1681. # [20:30] <@bz> anyone here have a Linux profiling setup?
1682. # [20:30] <@khuey> bholley went on a rampage
1683. # [20:30] <@khuey> also the webrtc landing is in there somewhere
1684. # [20:30] <_AxS_> bz: what do you need?
1685. # [20:30] <@khuey> and it's large
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1687. # [20:30] <@gavin> ehsan: ping?
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1689. # [20:30] <@gavin> nice
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1692. # [20:31] <@bz> _AxS_: just some indication on what profilers work on Linux nowadays
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1697. # [20:31] <_AxS_> bz: ah. i can't actually answer that one...
1698. # [20:32] <glandium> bz: you can use sps
1699. # [20:32] <glandium> bz: or you can use perf, if you don't elfhack
1700. # [20:32] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: setting the window owner automatically synchronizes the thread input queue?
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1702. # [20:33] <@dbaron> glandium, I haven't found a useful output format for 'perf'
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1704. # [20:34] <@dbaron> glandium, except for the one that prints every stack trace separately so that I can merge them in my head
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1707. # [20:34] <glandium> dbaron: i have always used perf report, which produces an interactive view
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1710. # [20:34] <@dbaron> glandium, I haven't been able to get useful things out of that view
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1714. # [20:35] <glandium> dbaron: on firefox or on other things?
1715. # [20:35] <@dbaron> glandium, what I want is a stack-based tree showing where time is spent
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1717. # [20:35] <@dbaron> glandium, on firefox
1718. # [20:35] <@dbaron> glandium, (sometimes rooted at main, sometimes rooted at instruction pointer)
1719. # [20:35] <glandium> dbaron: did you try with --disable-elf-hack?
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1724. # [20:36] <@dbaron> glandium, I haven't gotten perf to show me useful data more than one caller deep in perf report
1725. # [20:36] <@dbaron> glandium, but it clearly has the raw data it needs, based on the output from...
1726. # [20:37] <@dbaron> glandium, 'perf script'
1727. # [20:37] <glandium> dbaron: were you running perf record -g ?
1728. # [20:37] <@dbaron> glandium, yes
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1734. # [20:42] <glandium> dbaron: make sure you weren't using it on elfhacked binaries, because perf doesn't handle that nicely
1735. # [20:42] <@dbaron> glandium, it's possible
1736. # [20:43] <seth> does anyone have any tips about the easiest way to break apart a large patch into multiple independent smaller patches using mercurial?
1737. # [20:43] <JonathanS> Clang Modules (PDF) http://llvm.org/devmtg/2012-11/Gregor-Modules.pdf
1738. # [20:43] <@dbaron> seth, write it as multiple smaller patches in the first place, using mq :-(
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1741. # [20:44] <seth> dbaron: hah, i have done so, but some of the smaller patches grew larger than desired =)
1742. # [20:44] <jhammel> seth: (also, patchutils may help if youre on a unixy thing)
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1744. # [20:44] <seth> jhammel: haven't heard of that; will take a look (indeed on a unixy thing)
1745. # [20:44] <@dbaron> glandium, though autoconf.mk says I'm not using elfhack
1746. # [20:44] <glandium> dbaron: fwiw, just got a profile with a broken build (got me a parser error at startup) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1961405
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1748. # [20:44] <jhammel> seth: man pages here http://cyberelk.net/tim/patchutils/man/index.html
1749. # [20:45] <@bsmedberg> seth: are the changes in the same file or different files?
1750. # [20:45] <seth> bsmedberg: they are mostly in different files, but there are a few cases where there's overlap
1751. # [20:45] <@bsmedberg> hg qref -X can help for multiple files
1752. # [20:45] <@bsmedberg> hg qrecord can help with things in a single file
1753. # [20:45] <seth> bsmedberg: the different file case i think one can handle by just asking mercurial to leave those files out of the patch and doing a refresh, IIRC
1754. # [20:46] <seth> bsmedberg: ah excellent, qrecord. will read up on that
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1758. # [20:47] <padenot> seth: If I were you, I would install the crecord extension and use the qcrefresh command: https://bitbucket.org/edgimar/crecord/
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1761. # [20:47] <@bsmedberg> is crecord better than record?
1762. # [20:48] <padenot> oh yes
1763. # [20:48] <seth> padenot: taking a look now
1764. # [20:48] <seth> thanks for these tips, everyone!
1765. # [20:48] <padenot> or at least I find it is better
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1776. # [20:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff09a887acd6 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 768887 - Remove redundant method. r=bnicholson
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1778. # [20:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf673653d9a3 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 768887 - Ensure that the toolbar remains hidden on rotation in full-screen mode. r=bnicholson
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1781. # [20:55] <RobertClaypool> seth:recurse your first decision to write smaller patches
1782. # [20:56] <seth> IMO a solution which is tantamount to "predict the size and complexity of a change before making it" is unrealistic
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1784. # [20:56] <seth> (though i agree if you can, that's ideal)
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1786. # [20:57] <RobertClaypool> Which bugs are your patches for?
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1790. # [21:00] <@dbaron> seth, sometimes you can predict mid-change, though
1791. # [21:00] <aklotz> bsmedberg: Yes, when the window and its owner are created by different threads, windows synchronizes those two threads' input queues.
1792. # [21:00] <Jesse_> http://www.bash.org/?950581
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1794. # [21:00] <@dbaron> seth, and it's often easier to split patches then than when they're done
1795. # [21:00] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: hrm, I learned something today! Is that documented?
1796. # [21:01] <aklotz> bsmedberg: Not particularly well. Raymond Chen's blog and his 2005 PDC video is the best source for that info!
1797. # [21:01] <@bsmedberg> I've been reading his blog for years. Watching the PDC video now, but I haven't gotten to the interesting bits yet ;-)
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1800. # [21:02] <@bsmedberg> the docs on AttachThreadInput never say that it's done automatically :-(
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1802. # [21:04] <aklotz> bsmedberg: The annoying part is that he always alludes to that video in his later blog posts, but that video has horrible production quality!
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1808. # [21:07] <josh> bsmedberg: How would you feel about officially not supporting plugins in chrome documents, and perhaps going so far as to disable it?
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1810. # [21:07] <@bsmedberg> josh: I... have mixed feelings
1811. # [21:07] <jcranmer> sometimes I split my patches by making a new patch, deleting added code, and then playing games with patch -R and things like that
1812. # [21:07] <josh> I'd be in favor of that, but I'm totally open to arguments
1813. # [21:07] <@bsmedberg> NPAPI plugins are a useful way for extensions to do "binary stuff" without the pain of ctypes
1814. # [21:08] <jcranmer> [although that really only works when the stuff you want to split out is mostly new code, and not modifications of code]
1815. # [21:08] <Jesse_> dbaron: so i'm seeing evidence that my fuzzer is missing security bugs due to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588237
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1817. # [21:08] <josh> bsmedberg: It may be harder for some developers to use ctypes but using a plugin will at best be bad and often really terrible for performance. It's quite the footgun.
1818. # [21:10] <Jesse_> dbaron: having a fix would help a lot. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1961431
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1822. # [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45c61a3e9678 - Ravisankar Sivasubramaniam - Bug 803078: Added code to hide the cursor if the windows change. r=margaret
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1824. # [21:13] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: is it possible to *query* whether two threads have attached input queues?
1825. # [21:14] <vlad> hrm, anyone familiar with pymake around? (bsmedberg maybe?)
1826. # [21:14] <vlad> I'm trying to figure out how/where it exits
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1828. # [21:14] <vlad> (I want to add a built-in time-printing thing)
1829. # [21:14] <@bsmedberg> hah, that's a complicated question!
1830. # [21:15] <vlad> does it just spawn non-server threads?
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1832. # [21:15] <vlad> I wonder if I can just use atexit
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1834. # [21:15] <@bsmedberg> vlad: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bsmedberg_mozilla.com/pymake/file/3aa21f3c918d/make.py#l20
1835. # [21:15] <aklotz> bsmedberg: I'm not aware of a *direct* way to do it. I suppose that if one were to examine the owner and thread relationships between two windows one could infer that implicit input queue synchronization is happening. OTOH that wouldn't work in the case of the Plugin Hang UI since it gets turned off :-P
1836. # [21:15] <@bsmedberg> see the "sys.exit" there?
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1838. # [21:16] <vlad> ohh
1839. # [21:16] <vlad> that's the final callback
1840. # [21:16] <@bsmedberg> yes
1841. # [21:16] <vlad> got it
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1855. # [21:22] <jesup> dbaron: jprof ;-) (If no one has broken it recently - I build it all the time, but don't test it all the time)
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1858. # [21:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f4ff39ef24f - Oleg Romashin - Bug 814979 - Fennec build fails with Mer SDK: invalid inclusion of GLXLibrary.h. r=glandium,mattwoodrow
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1861. # [21:26] <jduell> bz: ping
1862. # [21:26] <evilpie> jst: hey i guess you don't remember bug 808792?
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1864. # [21:26] <Mook_as> josh: hmm. so, err, would blitting to a <canvas> with data from ctypes be more performant? (since our who editor bit in Komodo is a giant NPAPI plugin in a chrome document...)
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1869. # [21:29] <gregglind> nsiURI as string?
1870. # [21:30] <gregglind> (for logging / debugging)
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1872. # [21:31] <@gavin> .spec?
1873. # [21:31] <Mook_as> gregglind: are you looking for .spec?
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1875. # [21:31] <gregglind> thanks!
1876. # [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/072afb032cce - Mark Finkle - Bug 762046 - Amazon search-plugin hard-coded for desktop site r=bnicholson
1877. # [21:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/537865efa182 - Mark Finkle - Bug 815076 - The default Twitter search engine does not work r=bnicholson
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1895. # [21:38] <AutomatedTester> is there any difference to the way that cookiemanager works on desktop compared to b2g?
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1900. # [21:40] <Hixie> jlebar|away: ping (your input on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18459 would be helpful)
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1918. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec29e09a270e - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 811958 - Pull GLContext out of Cocoa stuff - r=bgirard
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1920. # [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/807f2c3df974 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 811958 - Move TextureImage to its own files - r=bgirard
1921. # [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1637c39b4ed6 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 811958 - Fix and move ShareType type - r=bgirard
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1931. # [21:54] <Waldo> hmm, is something whacked with bmo right now? I seem to not be getting all the bugmail I'd expect to get (like, #c0, #c2, #c4, #c5 for a new bug filed today)
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1933. # [21:56] <jorendorff> dbaron: i think we had the same problem with the mail-to-news gateway. did you happen to file it?
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1936. # [21:56] <@gavin> jorendorff: bug 815259
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1938. # [21:57] <@gavin> Waldo: apparently bug 815259 is a postfix-related issue, maybe it's affecting bugmail delivery too? </wildtheory>
1939. # [21:57] <jorendorff> thanks, perfect
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1941. # [21:57] <AutomatedTester> is there any difference to the way that cookiemanager works on desktop compared to b2g?
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1951. # [22:03] <Waldo> or, hmm, maybe my junk filter is just going crazy
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1969. # [22:12] <@smaug> is pushing tryserver super slow?
1970. # [22:13] <mcsmurf> yesterday it took me a minute to push
1971. # [22:14] <mcsmurf> but it also took me like a minute two weeks ago
1972. # [22:14] <mcsmurf> so I guess that's normal?
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1976. # [22:16] <@smaug> no, doesn't work here
1977. # [22:16] <benjamin> jgilbert: kaboom on inbound
1978. # [22:16] <@smaug> doesn't seem to do anything
1979. # [22:16] <jgilbert> benjamin: :<
1980. # [22:16] * jgilbert shoots the messenger
1981. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23582327333e - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset ac304d3c250e (bug 806742) because of test failures
1982. # [22:17] <benjamin> gee, I didn't know I was putting my life on the line
1983. # [22:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db514198f30c - Andres Hernandez - Bug 806742 - Port toolkit/components/places/tests/unit/test_248970.js to the new per-window PB APIs; r=ehsan
1984. # [22:17] <jgilbert> oh, frig, that bug
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1994. # [22:22] <jgilbert> now I get to try to remember how to back myself out
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1999. # [22:24] <jgilbert> oh fun, it opened emacs on me
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2005. # [22:24] <jhammel> now we all know what you have $EDITOR set to ;)
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2007. # [22:25] <jez> the proposed 'flex-direction' css property is dependent on the writing mode. wouldn't it be a good idea to also offer "horizontal" and "vertical" as options? you might want stuff laid out horizontally/vertically regardless of the writing mode.
2008. # [22:25] <jgilbert> yeah, too bad emacs kills the cygwin console when it exits :<
2009. # [22:26] <bent> anyone know what i'm doing wrong? I'm calling addEventListener on a <xul:command> element and i'm never getting called when an associated menu item is clicked
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2013. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d929efab02a7 - Brian Hackett - Add config option for off thread compilation, bug 815199. r=dvander
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2016. # [22:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de5da369a1c8 - Brian Hackett - Clone type sets to avoid races when compiling off thread, bug 815258. r=dvander
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2020. # [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d66f03cc49a9 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 815226 - Make the MediaPluginReader not depend on the concrete type of the AbstractMediaDecoder passed to it; r=cpearce
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2023. # [22:31] <jgilbert> something's up with my local repo, so it'll probably be less painful if someone else backs me out before too much lands on top of it
2024. # [22:32] <RobertClaypool> jgilbert: Why won't hg revert --all fix your local repo?
2025. # [22:32] <@ehsan> fryn: ping
2026. # [22:33] <@gavin> ehsan: ping
2027. # [22:33] <@ehsan> gavin: hi
2028. # [22:33] <@gavin> hello
2029. # [22:33] <jgilbert> RobertClaypool: it was taking forever to recover after the revert transaction failed, because emacs is unusable on my cygwin for whatever reason
2030. # [22:34] <jgilbert> it is maybe-better now
2031. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c10b030d920 - Benoit Girard - Bug 802400 - Restore pan timer to 60 Hz because of trobopan regression. r=kats
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2034. # [22:38] <@ehsan> !seen fryn
2035. # [22:38] <@killer> fryn is on the channel right now!
2036. # [22:38] <firebot> fryn was last seen 4 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying 'interrupting dolske! xD' in #fx-team.
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2039. # [22:38] <cabanier> all, I have a problem where the try server crashes on my patch, but things are working locally
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2041. # [22:39] <cabanier> how can I reproduce a failure on the try server locally? Are its specs published somewhere?
2042. # [22:40] <sfink> cabanier: the mozconfigs that it uses are checked into the tree. Look in browser/config/mozconfigs. You can try building with one of those.
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2044. # [22:40] <sfink> (look at the build log of the failing try push to see which one it used)
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2046. # [22:42] <RobertClaypool> Now the build is hanging on creating config.status
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2048. # [22:44] <fryn> ehsan: pong
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2050. # [22:44] <cabanier> sfink: thanks! I'm looking at it now
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2052. # [22:44] <@ehsan> fryn: hey! I was wondering what is left to do on bug 697359
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2054. # [22:45] <sfink> cabanier: failing that, you can file a bug to request access to an actual build box. But obviously, it's much more convenient if you can reproduce locally.
2055. # [22:45] <jgilbert> ok, that should do it
2056. # [22:45] <fryn> ehsan: a lot to do it properly.
2057. # [22:45] <fryn> simply moving it to a tab is easy,
2058. # [22:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ca16b44a6db - Jeff Gilbert - Backed out csets 807f2c3df974, 1637c39b4ed6, ec29e09a270e (bug 811958) for burning android
2059. # [22:45] <fryn> but the Library window has its own transaction manager (undo/redo)
2060. # [22:46] <@ehsan> right
2061. # [22:46] <fryn> and that needs to be perfectly hooked up to HTML5 history API
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2063. # [22:46] <fryn> also, our about redirector
2064. # [22:46] <fryn> doesn't allow for URL hashes at the moment, i think,
2065. # [22:46] <@ehsan> hmm
2066. # [22:46] <fryn> and we'd need that to be able to link to specific views in the Library window
2067. # [22:46] <fryn> e.g. Bookmarks, History, etc.
2068. # [22:46] <@ehsan> what if we only want the download panel to live there? and not the rest of the places UI?
2069. # [22:47] <@gavin> about redirector doesn't allow for URL hashes at the moment?
2070. # [22:47] <fryn> gavin: wait, i think it does,
2071. # [22:47] <fryn> but would the Library window be able to read them?
2072. # [22:47] <fryn> i haven't thought the problem that much
2073. # [22:47] <@ehsan> fryn: it should, through window.location, I think
2074. # [22:48] <fryn> but it's definitely something left to do.
2075. # [22:48] <@ehsan> ok
2076. # [22:48] <@gavin> should work fine I think
2077. # [22:48] <fryn> ehsan: re: download panel: i think that should work just fine, if
2078. # [22:48] <fryn> we remove the arguments that we pass to it, i.e. window.arguments
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2080. # [22:49] <fryn> (i think we currently pass a few, but i could have remembered incorrectly.)
2081. # [22:49] <@ehsan> ok
2082. # [22:49] <bent> Enn, ping
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2084. # [22:50] <@ehsan> fryn: so do you think it would make sense for me to file another bug, specifically about making the downloads panel work in a tab?
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2094. # [22:53] <fryn> ehsan: yeah, please file another bug, and you can CC me.
2095. # [22:53] <@ehsan> sure
2096. # [22:53] <Jesse_> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669110#c13
2097. # [22:53] <@ehsan> fryn: is that something that you think you can work on soon?
2098. # [22:53] <@ehsan> or should I ask the appcoast folks?
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2100. # [22:54] <fryn> it's better than we use the download-only document anyway,
2101. # [22:54] <fryn> because the Library window's downloads view uses browsing history
2102. # [22:54] <fryn> instead of downloads history
2103. # [22:54] <fryn> which results in "missing" downloads.
2104. # [22:54] <@ehsan> oh
2105. # [22:55] <@ehsan> what is the download-only document?
2106. # [22:55] <fryn> er, by download-only document, i mean downloads.xul
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2109. # [22:56] <@ehsan> so the toolkit download manager?
2110. # [22:56] <fryn> yes
2111. # [22:56] <fryn> is that what you're proposing?
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2113. # [22:56] <fryn> or are we putting the downloads panel into a tab?
2114. # [22:56] <@ehsan> no, I was talking about the library panel
2115. # [22:56] <fryn> oh
2116. # [22:56] <@ehsan> but I do need something which uses the donloadmgr APIs
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2118. # [22:56] <@ehsan> since the download manager knows about the private downloads...
2119. # [22:57] <fryn> the Library's downloads panel
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2121. # [22:57] <fryn> is, from my experience, unreliable,
2122. # [22:57] <@ehsan> hmm
2123. # [22:57] <@ehsan> how so?
2124. # [22:57] <fryn> because it seems to pull its list form a different source
2125. # [22:57] <@ehsan> oh hrm
2126. # [22:57] <fryn> than the toolkit one.
2127. # [22:57] <@ehsan> yeah we don't want that....
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2129. # [22:57] <fryn> for example,
2130. # [22:57] <fryn> if a download isn't in browsing history for some reason
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2132. # [22:58] <fryn> but the user did clearly download it,
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2134. # [22:58] <fryn> it won't be in the Library's downloads view
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2136. # [22:58] <@ehsan> huh
2137. # [22:58] <fryn> but it will show up when you open the toolkit Downloads window.
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2139. # [22:58] <@ehsan> that's not great
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2142. # [22:58] <@ehsan> I see
2143. # [22:58] <@ehsan> let me CC a bunch of folks on the bug...
2144. # [22:58] <fryn> what i'm saying is true as of 2 months ago.
2145. # [22:58] <fryn> not sure if people have looked into it / fixed it since then.
2146. # [22:59] <@ehsan> that's ok
2147. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff0511be54a6 - David Keeler - bug 812562 - click-to-play: reshow notification for blocklisted plugins r=jaws
2148. # [22:59] <@ehsan> I'm sure the download panel folks will correct us if we're wrong
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2179. # [23:18] <NeilAway> Jesse_: rofl @ bash quote
2180. # [23:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a1d18db38f23 - Josh Aas - Back out fix for bug 405407 due to regressions. a=akeybl
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2183. # [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb15602e78b9 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 811958 - Pull GLContext out of Cocoa stuff - r=bgirard
2184. # [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/916e594faea1 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 811958 - Fix and move ShateType type - r=bgirard
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2192. # [23:23] <jgilbert> "ShateType"
2193. # [23:23] <jgilbert> I can't even spell right, today
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2236. # [23:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0b129e5ee0e - Kyle Huey - Bug 814102: Make the 'this' object used when compartment sharing a FakeBackstagePass. r=mrbkap
2237. # [23:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f030d7c497f - Kyle Huey - Bug 811784: Account for subscripts when figuring out what object to stick properties on. r=mrbkap
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2242. # [23:40] <tanvi> smaug: ping
2243. # [23:40] <@smaug> tanvi: pong
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2247. # [23:41] <tanvi> how do i update the iid of nsidocument.h? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsIDocument.h#81
2248. # [23:41] <tanvi> i dont know what this is
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2250. # [23:42] <tanvi> smaug ^^
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2252. # [23:42] <@smaug> http://mozilla.pettay.fi/cgi-bin/mozuuid.pl
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2254. # [23:42] <@smaug> tanvi: that gives both .idl and c++ form
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2256. # [23:42] <@smaug> for .h you need the c++ form
2257. # [23:43] <@smaug> firebot can create those too
2258. # [23:43] <@smaug> firebot: uuid
2259. # [23:43] <firebot> smaug: Sorry, I've no idea what 'can create those too' might be.
2260. # [23:43] <firebot> 755588ce-e753-4638-b9d2-e2012fb26f06 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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2265. # [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cba096382a39 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 775142 - Use placeholder format strings for localization. r=mfinkle,Pike
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2277. # [23:48] <tanvi> smaug - okay thanks!
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