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# [00:06] <@ehsan> cpearce: so I finally managed to decode some audio frames in my web audio decoder
# [00:06] <@ehsan> now, I need to actually look at the frames and stuff
# [00:06] <cpearce> ehsan: woot!
# [00:07] <@ehsan> and extract the decoded data
# [00:07] <@ehsan> (yay!)
# [00:07] <@ehsan> so
# [00:07] <@ehsan> now the question is
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# [00:07] <@ehsan> can I expose methods from MediaQueue which let the caller access the queue directly?
# [00:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4af18f114939 - Nagarjuna Varma - Bug 810149: Telemetry to track time spent recursively scanning addon directories on startup. r=vdjeric
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# [00:07] <@ehsan> cause I don't want to do a series of PopFront's
# [00:08] <@ehsan> that seems to incur memcpy's in nsDeque IINM
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# [00:09] <cpearce> ehsan: why can't you just pop off the queue? do you need to push back onto it? or access non-front samples?
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# [00:09] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [00:10] <@ehsan> cpearce: actually, looking at nsDeque::PopFront, it looks like it's smart enough to avoid memcpy's
# [00:10] <@ehsan> so nm I guess :)
# [00:10] <cpearce> ehsan: cool!
# [00:10] <@ehsan> cpearce: I'll soon have a bunch of more patches for you to review, hopefully :)
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# [00:15] <Mossop> nthomas: Can you help me push some files to stage.mozilla.org?
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# [00:16] <nthomas> Mossop: maybe, what's the destination dir ?
# [00:17] <Mossop> nthomas: /pub/mozilla.org/labs/jetpack/
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# [00:17] <Mossop> Normally KWierso would push these files but he's PTO this week
# [00:17] <nthomas> you'll need to ask IT, I don't have perms in that dir
# [00:17] <nthomas> or myk
# [00:17] <Mossop> nthomas: Ok thanks
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# [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e624ff41b15e - Vladan Djeric - Bug 813216: Make about:telemetry description consistent with other Telemetry descriptions. r=ttaubert
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# [00:24] <@ehsan> cpearce: what's the story with mAudioBuffer and mAudioData?
# [00:24] <@ehsan> cpearce: which is the one that I'm interested in?
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# [00:25] <cpearce> WTF??!
# [00:25] <cpearce> hmmm
# [00:25] <jdm> sounds like a good story
# [00:25] <cpearce> mAudioBuffer is something we have for B2G.
# [00:25] <cpearce> And android.
# [00:26] <@ehsan> wut?!
# [00:26] <cpearce> edwin: on desktop, mAudioBuffer is the one you want.
# [00:26] <cpearce> ehsan: ^^ I mean...
# [00:26] <@ehsan> hmm
# [00:26] <@ehsan> cpearce: what if I want to support them both?
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# [00:27] <@dolske> then use mAudioBufferData
# [00:27] <@dolske> (please don't pay attention to me ;)
# [00:27] <jdm> :D
# [00:28] <@ehsan> mAudioBufferData?
# [00:28] <jdm> take a bit from one
# [00:28] <jdm> a bit from the other
# [00:28] <@ehsan> oh
# [00:28] <@ehsan> this is dolske!
# [00:28] <cpearce> ehsan: then I guess you have to convert from one to the other.
# [00:28] <@ehsan> hrm
# [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bc3cd4a52ec - David Anderson - Add incremental barriers to addprop ICs (bug 811058, r=billm).
# [00:28] <cpearce> ehsan: I think mAudioBuffer is a libstagefright struct, edwin or doublec can fill you in on details.
# [00:29] <@ehsan> hmm ok
# [00:29] <@ehsan> cpearce: so, I'll add a Data() method to AudioData which returns the right thing, I guess
# [00:29] <@ehsan> does that sound kosher?
# [00:29] <cpearce> oh wait, it's just a chunk of bytes, with a format field.
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# [00:30] <cpearce> ehsan: yeah, sounds good. shouldn't be hard to massage them , though you'll need to copy to do so :(
# [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5cfd29609df - Gregor Wagner - Bug 815398 - Settings: set navigator.mozSettings to null if we don't have read or write permission. r=bent
# [00:30] <@ehsan> :(
# [00:30] <@ehsan> I don't wanna copy anything more than I have to already
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# [00:31] <@ehsan> cpearce: wait, I thought SharedBuffer is this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/SharedBuffer.h#23
# [00:31] <@ehsan> but we also have http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/omx-plugin/include/ics/utils/SharedBuffer.h#27
# [00:31] <cpearce> ehsan: it is.
# [00:32] <cpearce> we do.
# [00:32] * @ehsan is puzzled
# [00:32] <cpearce> as am I.
# [00:32] <cpearce> Time for lunch.
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# [00:32] <@ehsan> hehe
# [00:32] <@ehsan> ok
# [00:32] <cpearce> ehsan: I recommend you grill edwin on this.
# [00:32] <edwin> Former is ours, latter is Android's
# [00:33] <@ehsan> edwin: so my original question was about getting the data out of AudioData
# [00:33] <@ehsan> there's mAudioBuffer and mAudioData there
# [00:33] <@ehsan> and I'm not sure when which one is valid
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# [00:35] <edwin> Hmm
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# [00:37] <RobertClaypool> how hard would it be to try each one and the one that has music playing is the right one.
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# [00:37] <mjrosenb> argh. I need to stop pulling from mc when I want to push to mi
# [00:37] <jhammel> what if it is a Japanese noise band? how would you tell?
# [00:37] <mjrosenb> I have another mc-commit that hg wants to push to mi
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# [00:38] <RobertClaypool> In that case, I would say to start with music that you know what it is supposed to sound like before trying it on ones you don't
# [00:39] <edwin> ehsan: I think cpearce is right in that mAudioBuffer is the right one, but you'll need to call EnsureAudioBuffer() which does a copy
# [00:40] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: I think you can do hg push -r f00...
# [00:40] <edwin> Sadface
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# [00:40] <@dbaron> mjrosenb, or -rtip if it's tip
# [00:40] <@ehsan> edwin: so, there's no way to avoid that copy?!
# [00:40] <@dbaron> mjrosenb, see what hg out -rtip mozilla-inbound says
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# [00:41] <mjrosenb> dbaron: that shouws only my commit
# [00:41] <@dbaron> mjrosenb, if that's what you want to push, then you can s/out/push/
# [00:42] <RobertClaypool> then what is mAudioData used for?
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# [00:42] <edwin> ehsan: Nope. They're laid out differently in memory. One is laid out Frames->Channels, the other Channels->Frames
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# [00:43] <RobertClaypool> it's like latching a port
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# [00:44] <edwin> Honestly, I'm a bit out of my depth in this code, but that seems to bethe way it is
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# [00:45] <mjrosenb> dbaron: neato, thinks!
# [00:45] <mjrosenb> *thanks
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# [00:47] <@ehsan> edwin: ok, thanks for your help :)
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# [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40208ff7967f - Ethan Hugg - Bug 814164 - Disable builder run of ice_unittest r=jesup
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# [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff5582c77a06 - Marty Rosenberg - Finally fix the second stack alignment check (second half of 3136d5ea2399) (bug 810996, bug 807156, r=djvj)
# [01:04] <bent> gavin, ping
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# [01:07] <ekw> jdm: on bug 800195, when I try to run the mochitest-chrome you suggested (test_privatemode.xul), it just hangs, times out and fails. this happens with and without my patch for that bug. (the mochitest-browser-chrome test works though.)
# [01:07] <jdm> hum
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# [01:08] <jdm> yes, I agree
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# [01:08] <jdm> ekw: TEST_PATH=dom/plugins/test/test_privatemode.xul make -C obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/ mochitest-chrome
# [01:08] <jdm> that should work, with whatever objdir you actually have
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# [01:09] <ekw> jdm: I'm using 64-bit win7. does that matter?
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# [01:09] <ekw> jdm: oh, nm
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# [01:12] <ekw> jdm: I was using 'TEST_PATH=dom/plugins/test/mochitest/test_privatemode.xul /c/pymake/make.py mochitest-chrome' from inside my objdir. I tried your command from the mozilla-central dir and it's doing the same thing... hanging, will time out.
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# [01:14] <jdm> ekw: yes, notice that I got rid of the mochitest/ from the TEST_PATH
# [01:15] <ekw> jdm: oh, ok. yeah, didn't notice that. thanks. it works and got some failures.
# [01:16] <cabanier> sfink: I was not able to rebuild with the checked-in config files
# [01:16] <cabanier> sfink: but I downloaded the failing builds from the try-bot
# [01:17] <cabanier> sfink: and they work fine on my machine :-(
# [01:17] <sfink> cabanier: ugh. I've had that happen more than once.
# [01:18] <sfink> cabanier: do you have the same compiler version?
# [01:18] <sfink> cabanier: wait, that was a dumb question :(
# [01:18] <cabanier> sfink: :-)
# [01:18] <sfink> cabanier: library versions would be more relevant
# [01:18] <cabanier> sfink: I think this is a GPU issue.
# [01:18] <sfink> oh, that seems plausible
# [01:19] <cabanier> sfink: I'm getting inconsistent results from the try bots
# [01:19] <cabanier> sfink: different files fail and sometimes there's a crash
# [01:19] <cabanier> sfink: If I knew the server config, I could reproduce it here
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# [01:20] <sfink> cabanier: Hm. The server config might be documented on the wiki somewhere. But you might need to ask on #build.
# [01:21] <cabanier> sfink: thanks! I will do that
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# [01:22] <sfink> cabanier: and you know that we have a large set of known inconsistent tests too, I hope? (Though it sounds like you're hitting problems more consistently than that.)
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# [01:23] <cabanier> sfink: it's only failing in the tests that my code is touching
# [01:23] <sfink> ok
# [01:23] <cabanier> sfink: it seems like a timing issue...
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# [01:36] <njn> firebot: uuid
# [01:36] <firebot> 01fcfb8e-865f-4bf9-9c45-fcc3f31b3f3e (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [01:36] <njn> firebot: uuid
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# [01:36] <njn> dum de dum
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# [01:37] <njn> dum de dah
# [01:37] <njn> firebot: uuid
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# [01:50] <RyanVM> gah, holy unstarred orange
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# [02:07] <markh> also - python -c "import uuid; print uuid.uuid4()"
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# [02:09] <Mook_as> it might be easier to just run `uuidgen`; that seems to exist on linux, osx, and win32/msvc.
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# [02:20] <RyanVM> smells like pine
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# [02:20] <jgilbert> RyanVM: Ready to burn, you mean?
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# [02:21] <markh> how can I determine what revision from m-c was merged to aurora? I thought "hg log -m" on aurora would tell me...
# [02:21] <RyanVM> jgilbert: depends, were you planning to land something again? :D
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# [02:21] <dholbert> markh, what do you mean by "merged"?
# [02:22] <markh> I guess I want to know the command ancestor between the 2 repos
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# [02:22] <dholbert> markh, if it's a backport (like a separate landing), then there's no way to know one repo's csetid from the other one
# [02:22] <dholbert> markh, otherwise, if the cset was literally merged, then the cset should have the same csetid
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# [02:23] <dholbert> markh, hmm, someone in charge of release mechanics would probably be better able to tell you about that (maybe lsblakk)
# [02:24] <@bz> markh: we tag the merge changeset
# [02:24] <markh> bz: ahh - FIREFOX_AURORA_18_* tags?
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# [02:25] <@bz> AURORA_18_BASE or some such
# [02:25] <@bz> markh: no problem
# [02:25] <markh> BASE and END seem to exist
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# [02:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/aa8cc127ddf1 - Nick Thomas - Bug 810994, update gonk-misc in snapshots for panda & unagi to get symbols (and no random-red), r=aki, a=akeybl
# [02:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d5d486cc044 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 782412 - Part 4: Implement inputErrorBehavior. r=smontagu
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/597915b66059 - Ehsan Akhgari - Empty commit to trigger builds, no bug
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a77b9740c42 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 782412 - Part 2: Return NS_OK_UDEC_MOREINPUT and NS_OK_UDEC_MOREOUTPUT as appropriate. r=smontagu
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/854e7cc9cb06 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/828a19e29014 - Jan Beich - Bug 807683 - Convert ALSA to a configure option. r=khuey
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7cc475cbc41 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 782412 - Part 3: Improve the BOM handling. r=smontagu
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# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b960d3ce65bc - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 782412 - Part 5: Remove a workaround from dom/encoding. r=hsivonen
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9da3418be9d - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 746900 - Implement "Best Practices for Using U+FFFD" from the Unicode standard. r=smontagu
# [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9efe7e7b135 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 782412 - Part 1: Rename UCS2BE to UTF16. r=smontagu
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# [02:54] <RyanVM> so I received the desktop aurora update today, but my phone isn't showing any updates available (also aurora)
# [02:54] <RyanVM> is that to be expected?
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# [02:55] <nthomas> I think we only disable the desktop ones since the merge
# [02:56] <nthomas> nope, I was wrong
# [02:56] <RyanVM> I only recently switched my phone over to aurora, so I'm not exactly sure what to expect updating outside Play
# [02:57] <RyanVM> I did re-set the "allow apps from outside the Play Store" setting after installing aurora. Do I need to leave that unchecked?
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# [02:58] <nthomas> for nightly, there's a service that checks for updates and creates a firefox icon in the notication area
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# [03:00] <RyanVM> nthomas: so presumably aurora should be doing the same
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# [03:09] <Callek> RyanVM: that is the expected behavior (the notification bar firefox icon) and happens on aurora. however until tomorrow you won't have an aurora update
# [03:09] <Callek> due to the aforementioned disabling of updates
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# [03:11] <RyanVM> Callek, ok, just wasn't sure if desktop and mobile were on the same schedule
# [03:11] <nthomas> Callek: there was an rsync of all the stuff that went to auroratest back to aurora, earlier today
# [03:11] <njn> is pldhash.o really meant to be built four times?
# [03:11] <nthomas> RyanVM: turns out they are
# [03:11] <Callek> nthomas: ahh I bet the rsync missed the fennec snippets then
# [03:11] <Callek> but let me double check *my* aurora
# [03:11] <nthomas> no, I think ben got that too
# [03:12] <Callek> ok I'm still getting "No updates available" and still on 18.0a2
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# [03:14] <RyanVM> Callek: glad to hear it's not just me
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# [03:18] <nthomas> I did another rsync, which copied some more snippets over, but still no update for me
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# [03:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c3dbe014683 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 810641. Implement support for variadic callback arguments in WebIDL. r=peterv
# [03:18] <nthomas> try now
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# [03:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20c8c8762a0c - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 815460. Always inline JS_THIS so that we don't run into performance issues if the compiler decides not to inline it. r=waldo
# [03:18] <Bas> Hrm, my windows build started complaining about missing soundtouch.res :s
# [03:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/448bb73bddb0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 813623. Fix Xrays to actually work correctly for static methods and properties. r=peterv
# [03:18] <Bas> Anyone seen that error?
# [03:20] <Callek> nthomas: thanks, found the update now for me
# [03:20] <Callek> RyanVM: CC ^
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# [03:22] <RyanVM> nthomas: Callek: got it, thanks
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# [03:24] <jgilbert> Bas: in trunk builds?
# [03:24] <jgilbert> I built fine earlier today, at least
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# [03:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/876bed348636 - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 814822 - Notify wake lock change when content crashes. r=jlebar
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# [03:30] <Waldo> @mozilla.org/supports-uint32_t;1
# [03:30] <Waldo> bz: ha, ha ha, ha ha ha
# [03:30] <Matti> bas: something like this : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1948403 ?
# [03:30] <Waldo> and of course I'm sure we were dutifully checking errors to discover this promptly! right, right?
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# [03:30] <Bas> Matti: Indeed.
# [03:33] <Matti> Bas: I can't offer a good solution. I deleted a bunch of directories and did an "hg update -C"
# [03:33] <Bas> Matti: I'll clobber :p
# [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1936fb13468e - Cameron McCormack - Bug 814310 - Disable @supports for Firefox 18. r=bz a=akeybl
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# [03:36] <@bz> Waldo: yeah, I was amused by that
# [03:36] <@bz> Waldo: imagelib? dutifully? ICO decoder? hahahahaha
# [03:37] <@bz> Waldo: I did grep the tree for other cases, and there seem to be none
# [03:37] <Waldo> yeah, I just did the same (MXR, but yeah)
# [03:37] <@bz> I might have done mxr
# [03:37] <@bz> can't recall; it was too long ago. ;)
# [03:37] <Waldo> bz: makes me wonder if RasterImage should be storing hotspot info as member fields, rather than doing the propertybag hackaround
# [03:38] <Waldo> property bags just seem like a bad idea for most stuff
# [03:39] <Waldo> also, alice is a god among women, or something like that
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# [03:41] <@bz> Waldo: I believe the technical term is "goddess"
# [03:41] <@bz> Waldo: and I wouldn't limit it to just "among women"....
# [03:41] <@bz> Waldo: She's amazing.
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# [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9c114c7a5a35 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 812517. Part 1: Add nsIScrollableFrame::ScrollToCSSPixelsApproximate. r=mats, a=blocking-basecamp
# [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0a4986420d89 - Thinker K.F. Li - Bug 805711 - Check EOS against audio source for OmxDecoder. r=doublec, a=blocking-basecamp
# [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b9aac74460e7 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 812517. Part 2: Call ScrollToCSSPixelsApproximate when TabChild scrolls. r=mats, a=blocking-basecamp
# [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cca45958d17a - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 788322. Don't crash when we drawWindow on a page containing a remote <iframe>. r=mattwoodrow, a=akeybl
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# [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6513e60cd056 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 811173. Part 2: Add other cases for nsDisplayItems that snap their bounds. r=mattwoodrow, a=akeybl
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# [04:15] <RyanVM> roc: png
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# [04:17] <@bz> RyanVM: webp?
# [04:17] <RyanVM> bz: tease
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# [04:17] <RyanVM> bz: but if you're volunteering
# [04:18] <RyanVM> just uplifted a patch to beta that's causing red
# [04:18] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17359895&tree=Mozilla-Beta
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# [04:18] <RyanVM> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b9aac74460e7
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# [04:19] <@bz> RyanVM: looking
# [04:19] <@bz> RyanVM: Sounds like TabChild.cpp should include nsIScrollableFrame.h
# [04:20] <@bz> RyanVM: want me to push an attempted fix?
# [04:20] * @bz pulls beta so he can at least try to do that
# [04:20] <RyanVM> bz: I can if you want
# [04:21] <@bz> either way
# [04:21] <RyanVM> bz: i'm checking m-c's version of TabChild.cpp
# [04:21] <@bz> it might include it indirectly
# [04:21] <@bz> via some other headers it includes...
# [04:21] <RyanVM> it appears that way
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# [04:32] <@bz> RyanVM: ping
# [04:33] <RyanVM> bz: jpg
# [04:33] <@bz> RyanVM: so I can confirm that adding that #include makes that one file compile
# [04:33] <@bz> RyanVM: want me to push that?
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# [04:33] <RyanVM> go for it
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# [04:33] <@bz> because it has the stupid NULL to bool -Werror idiocy
# [04:33] <RyanVM> a=bustage
# [04:33] <@bz> ok
# [04:33] <RyanVM> thanks
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# [04:34] <@bz> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5bd2ea37c907
# [04:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5bd2ea37c907 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 812517 followup to make things compile. r=bustage, a=bustage
# [04:36] <jlebar> At the risk of abusing this channel, can someone who's better at Linux than I help me figure out how to get the logs of the errors my Ubuntu box is showing when it boots? It seems to print a different set of errors every time I reboot, but it usually settles into printing out one stack trace over and over. But I suspect there's more information offscreen that I can't read.
# [04:37] <jlebar> I tried booting into a live CD and reading the various logs in /var/log, but none of them seems to have all the information I see onscreen.
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# [04:37] <RyanVM> bz: the other million dollar question being whether we'll need the same fix for aurora once it reopens
# [04:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3ed5864b6eb - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 814177 - Use a callVM for generic InstanceOf cases. r=dvander
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# [04:38] <RyanVM> bz: also, getting a bit nervous about your inbound push
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# [04:40] <@bz> jlebar: dmesg?
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# [04:40] <@bz> RyanVM: hmm
# [04:40] <jlebar> bz: I checked /var/log/dmesg and didn't see anything particularly interesting in there; certainly not all the stuff I was seeing onscreen.
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# [04:40] <jlebar> bz: But perhaps I should fetch the full contents of dmesg anyway?
# [04:41] <@bz> jlebar: might be worth it
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# [04:41] <@bz> RyanVM: you mean the two crashes?
# [04:41] <RyanVM> bz: I think we'll be OK with aurora since the hg pushlog shows the same history for both except for the cset in question
# [04:41] <RyanVM> bz: yeah, two previously-unseen crashes
# [04:41] <@bz> RyanVM: on 10.6, at that
# [04:42] <@bz> RyanVM: where the compiler was already inlining JS_THIS
# [04:42] <@bz> RyanVM: of my other two pushes, one is not exercised yet (the variadic bits)
# [04:42] <@bz> RyanVM: And the other really shouldn't cause weird crashes....
# [04:42] <@bz> RyanVM: if we have to back something out, I guess we try backing out JS_THIS
# [04:43] <RyanVM> bz: the bc retriggers looks like it'll be OK (the first one died after 16min and the retrigger's been going for 34)
# [04:43] <RyanVM> and we'll see on the M4 as it's quick test
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# [04:43] <@bz> yeah
# [04:43] <@bz> m5
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# [04:44] <RyanVM> silly 4 and 5 being next to each other on the keyboard
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# [04:45] <@bz> I know
# [04:45] <@bz> who had that brainstorm?
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# [04:48] <Callek> well it is better than 9 and 0 being next to each other
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# [04:54] <RyanVM> bz: osx tests are firing up on your beta push, so looks good to go
# [04:54] <RyanVM> thanks again
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# [04:57] <@bz> RyanVM: No problem. Least I can do given my complete abdication of my sheriff/merge duties. ;)
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# [04:57] <RyanVM> does anyone know when philor's coming back, btw?
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# [05:00] <seth> is mozilla-central building for others on OS X?
# [05:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37b088859341 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 813195 - [Apps] Cannot retry to download hosted apps with cache manifest [r=ferjm]
# [05:00] <RyanVM> seth: sure appears to be
# [05:00] <RyanVM> seth: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/
# [05:00] <seth> RyanVM: hmm, odd.
# [05:01] <seth> must be my .mozconfig i guess
# [05:01] <RyanVM> seth: you building with clang?
# [05:01] <seth> RyanVM: yeah
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# [05:29] <@bz> dholbert: but backout is fine too
# [05:30] <dholbert> cool. I'll backout then. (easier/safer)
# [05:30] <@bz> Sounds good.
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# [06:07] <seth> erick: it was in nsNetModule.cpp, IIRC. complaining about the 'extern' attribute. an additional header needed to be included to fix it
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# [06:42] <erick> seth: was it this bit? |extern NS_HIDDEN_(ContentSnifferCache*) gNetSniffers;| Which header is needed? (I'm having the same error)
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# [06:43] <seth> erick: what file is that in again?
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# [06:44] <erick> |dist/include/nsNetUtil.h|
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# [06:48] <erick> err
# [06:48] <seth> edit nsNetModule.cpp and add |#include "nsNetUtil.h"| right after |#include "nsIContentSniffer.h"|
# [06:48] <seth> IIRC that's all that's needed
# [06:48] <erick> thank you! :)
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# [07:24] <@bz> hrm
# [07:24] <@bz> if I have an AutoFallibleTArray
# [07:25] <@bz> should I be able to pass it to an nsTArray argument???
# [07:25] <@bz> Ah, here we go
# [07:27] <heycam> answer is yes? (was wanting to know that yesterday, for passing an nsAutoTArray to an nsTArray argument)
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# [07:29] <@bz> Answer is no
# [07:30] <@bz> nsAutoTArray is ok to pass to nsTArray
# [07:30] * heycam will land a quick fix to his inbound M3 orange once the M1 and reftests finish
# [07:30] <@bz> but Auto_Fallible_TArray is not
# [07:30] <@bz> except in some cases
# [07:30] <@bz> in which it will silently make a copy of the array (!)
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# [07:30] <heycam> when should explicitly fallible and infallible arrays be used, btw?
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# [07:31] <@bz> nsTArray defaults to infallible
# [07:31] <@bz> Explicitly infallible, only if you want to emphasize it
# [07:31] <@bz> explicitly fallible if the size of the allocation is easily under content control
# [07:31] <heycam> ok so it's not like the default is ever going to be switched back to fallible
# [07:31] <@bz> e.g. bindings use fallible arrays for sequence
# [07:31] <@bz> Yeah, default is not going to switch back to fallible, I don't think
# [07:32] <heycam> what's the advantage of fallible then?
# [07:32] <@bz> IDL: void foo(sequence<long>);
# [07:32] <@bz> JS: foo({ length: 4000000000; })
# [07:33] <@bz> You really want a fallible array there... ;)
# [07:33] <heycam> oh I see
# [07:33] <heycam> yes :)
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# [07:34] <@bz> heycam: btw, variadics + overload resolution == sadmaking so far
# [07:34] <heycam> :(
# [07:34] <@bz> heycam: not sure the spec can really make it any better...
# [07:34] <heycam> does the spec make sense?
# [07:34] <@bz> What the spec says makes sense
# [07:34] <heycam> how it fills out the variadic arguments until the longest arg list?
# [07:34] <@bz> I'm just not sure how to implement it in C++. ;)
# [07:34] <@bz> Consider this case:
# [07:35] <@bz> void foo(long... arg);
# [07:35] <@bz> void foo(long arg, Int32Array arr);
# [07:35] <@bz> How to make that work is unclear.
# [07:36] <heycam> it's not just "0 or 1 or > 2 args, choose the first overload"?
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# [07:37] <@bz> That part is easy
# [07:37] <@bz> What happens for 2 args?
# [07:38] <heycam> you do the type test thing, no? if it's object of type Int32Array, then Int32Array. otherwise, convert to long.
# [07:39] <@bz> no
# [07:39] <@bz> you have to convert arg0 first
# [07:39] <@bz> before doing the type test
# [07:39] <heycam> ok yes that's right
# [07:39] <@bz> alright
# [07:39] <@bz> so where do you convert it into?
# [07:39] <@bz> one of the signatures wants it in a int32_t on the stack
# [07:40] <@bz> the other as an element in an array....
# [07:40] <heycam> aha I see
# [07:40] <@bz> That's where the problems start. ;)
# [07:41] <heycam> heh
# [07:41] <@bz> well, and end, except insofar as you can have more args that need that sort of dual handling
# [07:41] <heycam> so if you're currently converting variadic things directly into an array now, I can see that'd be problematic
# [07:41] <@bz> void foo(long arg0, long arg1, long arg2, Int32Array surprise);
# [07:41] <@bz> yes, I am
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# [07:42] <heycam> I suppose it means you just have to move that value once you've determined the type of arg1
# [07:42] <@bz> or something
# [07:42] <heycam> whichever way you initially have committed to do it
# [07:42] <@bz> moving values is slightly rocket-science
# [07:42] <@bz> hence just not supporting this for now
# [07:42] <heycam> :\
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# [07:43] * @bz is also not supporting variadic sequences
# [07:43] <@bz> we'll see how this goes. ;)
# [07:44] <heycam> variadic sequence? void f(sequence<blah> x, …)?
# [07:44] <heycam> I doubt anyone uses that now :)
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# [07:45] <@bz> void f(sequence<blah>... x);
# [07:45] <@bz> I doubt anyone uses it, indeed.
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# [07:45] <@bz> But watch arussell change that!
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# [07:45] <@bz> hrm
# [07:45] <@bz> removing this footgun involves annoying code changes
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# [07:46] <@bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsTArray.h#461
# [07:46] <@bz> That footgun
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# [07:47] <heycam> mmm, should be explicit?
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# [07:49] <@bz> heycam: yes
# [07:49] <@bz> heycam: and as you can imagine, suddenly various code compileth not
# [07:49] <heycam> :D
# [07:50] <@bz> Oh, so...
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# [07:50] <@bz> I think nsTArray might be fallible if not MOZALLOC
# [07:50] <@bz> whatever that means
# [07:51] <heycam> ah yes that's the switch I was thinking of -- maybe it's more configurable than "we've switched to infallible by default and we're not going back"
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# [08:13] <markh> so little slices (of time ;)
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# [08:18] <@bz> awesome
# [08:18] <@bz> we were copying network data an extra time
# [08:18] <@bz> go us
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# [08:57] <smontagu> so, if a site has Content-Type: text/html in the headers, and the page begins
# [08:57] <smontagu> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
# [08:57] <smontagu> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
# [08:57] <smontagu> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
# [08:57] <smontagu> (and has no meta charset), what is the encoding?
# [08:58] <@bz> depends on whom you ask
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# [08:58] <smontagu> well if I ask firefox it says windows-1252
# [08:58] <smontagu> (rather to my surprise)
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# [08:58] <Ms2ger> Makes sense
# [08:59] <kbrosnan> that is the default setting
# [08:59] <Ms2ger> <?xml?> doesn't work in text/html
# [08:59] <Ms2ger> Also, hi bz
# [08:59] <@bz> hi
# [08:59] <@bz> we used to say utf-8 there
# [08:59] <@bz> but for text/html spec says to ignore the <?xml?> bit
# [08:59] <smontagu> Ms2ger: I thought if it was there we used it
# [08:59] <@bz> so it'll be your default encoding
# [09:00] <@bz> smontagu: not with the new parser
# [09:00] <smontagu> bz: "spec"?
# [09:00] <Ms2ger> "HTML"
# [09:00] <kbrosnan> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/settings-fonts-languages-pop-ups-javascript#w_fonts-dialog
# [09:00] <@bz> smontagu: "html5"
# [09:00] * @bz really hopes this tree compiles now
# [09:00] <smontagu> apparently chrome does utf-8
# [09:01] <Ms2ger> Really?
# [09:01] <@bz> smontagu: testcase?
# [09:01] <smontagu> though I haven't tried it myself, and I don't know what autodetect settings were for the guy who claims that
# [09:01] <@bz> right
# [09:02] <smontagu> (we also do utf-8 with auto-detect on)
# [09:02] <smontagu> bz: you aren't going to like it
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# [09:02] <smontagu> http://www.井作恆.net/XKCD/1137.html
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# [09:02] <@bz> hmm
# [09:02] <@bz> Chrome does look at <?xml?>
# [09:02] <@bz> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
# [09:02] <@bz> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
# [09:02] <@bz> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
# [09:02] <@bz> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
# [09:02] <@bz> <script>
# [09:02] <@bz> alert(document.characterSet);
# [09:02] <@bz> </script>
# [09:02] <@bz> </html>
# [09:03] <@bz> Alerts ISO-8859-1
# [09:03] <@bz> if I change the encoding= bit, that changes
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# [09:13] <smontagu> so the content-type trumps the doctype?
# [09:14] <Ms2ger> Doctypes are irrelevant
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# [09:14] <Ms2ger> The only thing they change is quirks/no-quirks more
# [09:14] <Ms2ger> mode
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# [09:36] <Yoric> Mmmmhh...
# [09:36] <Yoric> That win64bit story has now hit Ars Technica.
# [09:38] <firebot> Check-in:
# [09:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5002d796673 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 815058: Move callers of mozilla-internal-API-only "SetDOMStringToNull()" from nsINode.h to .cpp, to fix "inline function used but never defined" build warnings.
# [09:38] <firebot> r=Ms2ger
# [09:38] <glob> Yoric, and https://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/273300675641872384
# [09:39] <Yoric> Oh, great.
# [09:39] <smontagu> so what if we had auto-detection on by default for utf-8?
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# [10:00] <dholbert> it looks like we may have a perma-orange on Mac OS X 10.6 Debug "bc" (and maybe now M-Oth and M-3), FWIW
# [10:00] <dholbert> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815549 on it
# [10:00] <dholbert> but I'm heading to bed now
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# [10:01] <dholbert> (might merit a tree-closure, depending on how perma-orange it continues to be, but I'm not going to close-and-dash)
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# [10:03] <Ms2ger> edmorley, ^
# [10:03] <Ms2ger> And good morning
# [10:04] <edmorley> thank you, was deep in bugmail
# [10:04] <edmorley> good morning to you too :-)
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# [10:05] <Ms2ger> Using your moco address for email now? Good luck ;)
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# [10:17] <edmorley> !seen jwalker
# [10:18] <firebot> jwalker was last seen 72 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 17 minutes and a second ago,
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# [10:20] <past> edmorley: I think joe_walker is what you are looking for
# [10:21] <Optimizer> edmorley: its joe_walker, not jwalker
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# [10:21] <edmorley> oh
# [10:21] <edmorley> his b.m.o display name says the old one
# [10:22] <edmorley> joe_walker: I don't suppose you can back out that talos-regressing landing from fx-team?
# [10:22] <edmorley> I'm just concerned that it will get inadvertently merged
# [10:22] <edmorley> (and it has conflicts)
# [10:22] <edmorley> or I'd do it
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# [10:29] <ttaubert> Yoric: I found something you wanted yesterday. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Marionette_for_Interactive_Python
# [10:29] <ttaubert> Yoric: that's like a live console to execute code on a b2g device
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# [10:32] <Ms2ger> edmorley, revert to last know good changeset? :)
# [10:32] <edmorley> I've seen this before on more than one tree
# [10:33] <edmorley> I just can;t remember what the conclusion was in the end
# [10:33] <edmorley> it's not push related
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> Fun
# [10:34] <edmorley> instead infra/clobber/something like that
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# [10:34] <edmorley> but clobberer is broken
# [10:34] <edmorley> \o/
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# [10:35] <joe_walker> edmorley: backing out now
# [10:35] <edmorley> thank you :-)
# [10:36] <edmorley> joe_walker: would it be possible to update your bugzilla display name to the new irc nick? (or include both?)
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# [10:37] <joe_walker> edmorley: done
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# [10:37] <edmorley> thank you :-)
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# [10:44] <nigelb> 33
# [10:44] <fox2mike> 44
# [10:44] <nigelb> grr, sorry
# [10:45] <Ms2ger> 55?
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# [11:02] <Yoric> ttaubert: Thank you very much. Now, as it turns out, I don't have a b2g device and the bug I was looking for cannot be reproduced on b2g desktop, so I had to pass that bug to someone else.
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# [11:06] <ttaubert> Yoric: that works, too :)
# [11:06] <Yoric> Now get back to reviewing my patches before I push some more onto you :)
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# [11:44] <peterv> hmm, inbound is closed for a thunderbird perma-orange?
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# [11:45] <Ms2ger`> Looks like the wrong bug number
# [11:45] <Ms2ger`> edmorley, ^
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# [11:46] <edmorley> peterv, Ms2ger`: thanks, corrected
# [11:47] <Ms2ger`> Np
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# [11:47] <peterv> :-)
# [11:47] * peterv was hoping it could be opened instead
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# [11:47] <peterv> but oh well
# [11:48] <Ms2ger`> You could do reviews instead! ;)
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# [11:49] <peterv> Ms2ger`: no
# [11:49] <Ms2ger`> Or review jgraham's requirements for a test server: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/2012OctDec/0024.html
# [11:50] <peterv> Ms2ger`: hmm, they're not requests from you, maybe
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# [11:50] <Ms2ger`> glazou, my condolences
# [11:50] <glazou> yeah, thanks, shit happens
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# [12:41] <mounir> sicking: pong
# [12:42] <sicking> mounir: pong, but about to fall asleep
# [12:42] <mounir> sicking: you should be sleeping
# [12:42] <sicking> mounir: indeed
# [12:42] <mounir> sicking: go
# [12:42] <mounir> will cry because of your putch though
# [12:43] <sicking> my patch?
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# [12:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c02ec84a2c1 - Michal Novotny - Bug 725993 - Remove usage of STORE_ON_DISK flag in XHR code, r=jonas
# [12:45] <mounir> sicking: putch... about activities
# [12:46] <sicking> mounir: yeah, i'm sad too. But there's just too many things that need to be done asynchronously. And it's unfortunately also too late to make the change. If it was just one or the other then we might have been able to do it. But when the patch breaks so much and is unclear that it's the right thing to do
# [12:47] <sicking> mounir: …it's not worth it
# [12:47] <sicking> mounir: please don't confuse that bug even more by talking about getThreadList
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# [12:48] <sicking> mounir: if you want to change getThreadList then please file a separate bug
# [12:48] <mounir> sicking: is that thing used?
# [12:48] <sicking> mounir: which thing?
# [12:48] <mounir> sicking: getThreadList
# [12:48] <sicking> mounir: yes
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# [12:49] <mounir> oh...
# [12:49] <mounir> sicking: regarding activities, I thought most of the issues were being fixed
# [12:49] <fabrice> which issues?
# [12:49] <mounir> fabrice: the issues regarding the async calls
# [12:49] <fabrice> gaia people are happy to not need workarounds
# [12:49] <mounir> fabrice: you should be sleeping *too*
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# [12:50] <fabrice> mounir: I'm in Madrid
# [12:50] <sicking> mounir: there were quite a few things broken still. And we'd probably find more
# [12:50] <mounir> fabrice: gaia people would be happy if they could use activities in background to do app communication
# [12:50] <fabrice> mounir: activity == UI
# [12:50] <Wusel_> hello, is there someone form america here? I need some help for school ^^
# [12:50] <fabrice> at least for now
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# [12:51] <mounir> fabrice: activity will always have a UI
# [12:51] <Wusel_> was "competence for a change" said by Mitt Romney?
# [12:51] <mounir> sicking: I think the reasons why the patch was breaking stuff was just revealing issues in Gaia
# [12:51] <fabrice> mounir: so this is not background communication?
# [12:51] <mounir> it's crazy to do async stuff in answer to a user interaction
# [12:51] <fabrice> mounir: yes, but they only have async apis...
# [12:51] <mounir> fabrice: (I was being sarcastic)
# [12:52] <sicking> mounir: because a lot of actions are async
# [12:52] <mounir> fabrice: it's bad practice to do async stuff when there is a user interaction
# [12:52] <mounir> because that means the user might have a feedback quite late
# [12:52] <sicking> mounir: no, it's not crazy to do async actions in response to user interaction. That seems quite sensible
# [12:52] <mounir> sicking: we try to reduce the responsiveness, this is not reducing it
# [12:53] * fabrice would rather increase the responsiveness
# [12:53] <sicking> mounir: you can't preload everything though. That'll also decrease responsiveness
# [12:53] <mounir> fabrice: indeed :)
# [12:54] <sicking> it's really annoying that people don't mark dependent bugs though
# [12:54] <mounir> that likely didn't exist in github ^^
# [12:54] <sicking> so we have no way of tracking what did break if we want to analyze alternatives
# [12:55] <mounir> sicking: we might want to ask vingtetun
# [12:55] <sicking> mounir: sounds like a good idea
# [12:56] <fabrice> sicking: also, gaia devs also tend to use workarounds a bit too fast
# [12:56] <sicking> mounir: if you want to push for putting back the user-interaction requirement, then I'm all for it. But the patch as it stood had too many regressions to remain in the tree.
# [12:57] <sicking> fabrice: that I can agree with. Though i'm not sure what you're specifically referring to here
# [12:57] <mounir> ... I should have spot that during the initial review :(
# [12:57] <sicking> mounir: yeah. It sucks that we don't have more automated tests
# [12:58] <sicking> mounir: means that you have to do a lot of testing for things like that. Or a lot more auditing
# [12:58] <sicking> or both
# [12:58] <fabrice> sicking: well, they "fixed" half of the activity issues with various changes
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# [12:59] <mounir> sicking: the only real solution I see is having something like .then() in DOMRequest
# [12:59] <mounir> that would allow us to consider any chaining call to be made from a user interaction if the initial DOMRequest was the result of one
# [12:59] <sicking> fabrice: yeah, i think that given the number of regressions the right fix was to back out sooner.
# [13:00] <sicking> mounir: Yes, if we could somehow track asynchronous callbacks then things would be different. But we're pretty far from that
# [13:00] <mounir> sicking: lack of communication, I think
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# [13:00] <sicking> mounir: absolutely. And I think that the gaia team has a tendency to just take the platform as an unchangable given
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# [13:01] <mounir> sicking: which is what web dev do
# [13:01] <mounir> sicking: not really surprising
# [13:01] <sicking> mounir: yup
# [13:02] <sicking> mounir: by the way, getThreadList is what returns a thread overview
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# [13:03] <sicking> mounir: i.e. it's used to display the UI where you see everyone that you have interacted with. Once you click something in that UI do we start getting the data to render a single thread, and that's the part that's slow
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# [13:03] <mounir> sicking: oh ok
# [13:03] <vingtetun> there was also a tendancy to say: 'this can be workaround in Gaia, won't fix for v1'
# [13:03] <mounir> i haven't followed much
# [13:03] <vingtetun> so we learned to do workarounds :(
# [13:04] <sicking> vingtetun: yup. That's definitely true too
# [13:04] <vingtetun> but what was the think you want to ask me?
# [13:04] <vingtetun> add dependencies?
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# [13:05] <sicking> vingtetun: whether it was worth keeping the "only allow webactivities to be started from a user interaction" patch in. It's really hard to tell right now since none of the regressions were marked as dependencies in bugzilla
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# [13:05] <Wusel_> was "competence for a change" said by Mitt Romney?
# [13:05] <sicking> vingtetun: by the way, you should absolutely more often say "yes, we can work around this in gaia, but it'll be a lot of work"
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# [13:06] <sicking> vingtetun: i strongly suspect we've been wasting a lot of time on the e.me bug since justing is asking to workaround things in gaia
# [13:06] <sicking> justin even
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# [13:08] <vingtetun> i add the 2 dependencies i know of
# [13:08] <sicking> vingtetun: thanks
# [13:09] <vingtetun> i suspect gallery suffers from the same issues than the music app but i don't see a bug for that
# [13:09] <mounir> sicking: I had questions regarding indexes in the SMS db
# [13:09] <mounir> but... go to sleep, I feel bad for you :)
# [13:09] <vingtetun> sicking: and i suspect i raise the amount of efforts more often too :/
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# [13:10] <vingtetun> (but we tried to 'explore' way of doing it without platform changes)
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# [13:11] <sicking> vingtetun: i'd rather see us fix things the "right way" whenever possible. Though of course sometimes we don't have time.
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# [13:13] <sicking> ok, night all
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# [13:13] <vingtetun> good (short) night
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# [14:04] <gfritzsche> Wusel_: a bit too early for that
# [14:04] <bhearsum|buildduty> can i push a NPOTB changeset aurora despite it being closed?
# [14:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/231dcf277559 - Ben Hearsum - bug 812836: Set up nightly multilocale B2G desktop builds for l10n testing - add gaia l10n info to gecko config for unagi. r=aki, a=akeybl. DONTBUILD.
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# [14:20] <Yoric> Oh great.
# [14:21] <Yoric> Bugzilla just lost my loooong review for bug 789932.
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# [14:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66f3565f4817 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 793111 - Part 3 - Test case r=vicamo
# [14:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/131bc42cd637 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 793111 - Part 2 - getting PLMN list and deciding required carrier name component r=vicamo
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# [14:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> Yoric: yo ushould install Lazureus Form Recovery
# [14:27] <Yoric> Will that help with Bugzilla?
# [14:27] <bhearsum|buildduty> it will help with not losing data
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# [14:27] <glob> Yoric, splinter?
# [14:27] <Yoric> This is a 14 files patch, so there are good chances that whatever I had on screen at the moment was only related to a small subset of the patch.
# [14:27] <Yoric> glob: Indeed.
# [14:28] <glob> not sure lazureus would help, splinter uses local storage not form fields
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# [15:41] <firebot> ted was last seen 3 days, 20 hours, 28 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying 'he implemented off-main-thread CSS animation' in #introduction.
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# [15:51] <Yoric> ted: review ping?
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# [15:52] <@ted> Yoric: yeah uh, sorting through bugmail from my long weekend
# [15:52] <Yoric> Yes, I saw your bugmail activity, which led me to deduce that you had finished digesting the turkey :)
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# [15:54] <@ted> hah
# [15:54] <@ted> turkey: digested
# [15:54] <@ted> bugmail: still indigestion
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# [15:56] <gfritzsche> bon appetit ;)
# [15:56] <@bz> Should I worry about B2G builds failing on try with a missing Python.h ?
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# [15:58] <Ms2ger`> bz, they're not actually failing there
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# [15:59] <edmorley> bz, that line is a false positive (bug filed on stopping that error), failure is later
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# [16:00] <edmorley> bz, error: no matching function for call to 'mozilla::dom::bluetooth::BluetoothService::GetPairedDevicePropertiesInternal(....
# [16:04] <Bas> ARGH! Stupid windows build, y u always broken!
# [16:04] <@bz> edmorley: oh, I see. Thanks!
# [16:05] * @bz is fixing that already
# [16:05] <Bas> Anybody seen soundtouch.res build errors on windows?
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# [16:14] <dao> edmorley: joe walker is joe_walker
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# [16:15] <joe> my thought process every time i go looking for something in xpcom/: "It's a data structure, so it's in ds/. Oh, wait, no, it's part of the base requirements, so it's in base/. Oh wait, no, it's in glue because obviously."
# [16:16] <joe> and then it's a string and it's in string/
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# [16:17] <gcp> this is why tools/ utils/ misc/ always end up taking over the project
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# [16:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12ab14c79a08 - Jim Chen - Bug 814886 - Correctly check selection bounds on Android; r=cpeterson
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# [16:25] <gaston> damn
# [16:25] <gaston> just realized that make package in -beta uses gnutar --exclude options.....
# [16:25] <gaston> probably again a case of using tar vs $(TAR)
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# [16:26] <@ted> bleh
# [16:26] <@ted> stupid BSD utilities :-P
# [16:26] <@ted> usually those don't creep in as much because mac has BSD tar
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# [16:27] <gaston> i suppose mac doesnt care about bloating their tar with gnu extensions
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# [16:28] <@ted> i'm pretty sure mac tar is a fairly vanilla BSD tar
# [16:28] <@ted> oh, maybe not
# [16:28] <gaston> (cd ../../dist/firefox && tar --exclude=precomplete --exclude=.mkdir.done -cvhf - .) | \ (cd /usr/obj/firefox-18.0beta1/fake-amd64/usr/local/lib/firefox-18.0 && tar -xf -)
# [16:28] <@ted> it has --exclute
# [16:28] <gaston> tar: unknown option -- -
# [16:28] <gaston> i never remember where this tar line is done
# [16:28] <@ted> packager.mk
# [16:29] <gaston> not in browser/installer
# [16:29] <gaston> aaah
# [16:29] <gaston> thx
# [16:29] <@ted> where all horrible packager stuff is
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# [16:30] <gaston> aha. that's it, tar instead of $(TAR)
# [16:30] <gaston> free bug for me \o/
# [16:31] <gaston> and since TAR_CREATE_FLAGS uses --exclude=.mkdir.done
# [16:32] <gaston> i might aswell switch all 'tar' invocations to $(TAR)
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# [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d18627ba3d2 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 811778 - Only send crash reports on wifi. r=fabrice
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# [16:41] <edmorley> padenot++
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# [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d4143b11eea - Ed Morley - Backout 66f3565f4817, 131bc42cd637 & 8cdd43b76d19 (bug 793111) for B2G marionette failures
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# [16:47] <padenot> edmorley: commenting on an intermittent orange?
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# [16:48] <edmorley> padenot: for looking into it, yes :-)
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# [16:48] <padenot> edmorley: I feel terrible each time I receive one of those emails
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# [16:49] <edmorley> hehe
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# [16:51] <froydnj> what's the right channel to ask about bits in browser/devtools/ ?
# [16:51] <padenot> #devtools?
# [16:52] <froydnj> obvious answer is obvious
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# [16:57] <jdm> ehsan: \o/ for the download manager patches
# [16:57] <@ehsan> jdm: :D
# [16:57] <@ehsan> it was... weird
# [16:57] <@ehsan> this code is so hipster I didn't know what I was doing with it
# [16:57] <jdm> yeah, I had that experience when I read through it
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# [16:58] <gaston> hipster code in mozilla ? :)
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# [17:00] <@ehsan> yeah
# [17:00] <@ehsan> gaston: browser/components/downloads
# [17:00] <@ehsan> jdm: how far off is bug 769288?
# [17:01] <jdm> ehsan: I'm not sure. I'm digging into the socket transport service now for the first time, so it may be a couple days before I even have a patch together
# [17:01] <@ehsan> ok
# [17:01] <gaston> speaking of new code, what's the status of in-content prefs ? it looked promising last i played with it
# [17:01] <@ehsan> jdm: what about the geolocation bug?
# [17:01] <jdm> ehsan: waiting on review
# [17:01] <@ehsan> cool
# [17:01] <@ehsan> thanks!
# [17:01] <@ehsan> jdm: who's on the hook?
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# [17:01] <jdm> ehsan: dougt
# [17:01] <@ehsan> dougt: ping :D
# [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3120e4f4ddb7 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 797153 - Remote xpcshell tests shouldn't depend on running from within an objdir, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD a=NPOTB
# [17:02] <hub> has tbpl changed to only rebuild certain platform?
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# [17:03] <glandium> edmorley: what's up with the perma leak on beta?
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# [17:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fae627fef335 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 814264 - bug 795065 broke calling openUILink without an event parameter.
# [17:04] <glandium> hub: if you change only things under e.g. mobile, it will only rebuild mobile. There are a few other such rules
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# [17:04] <glandium> hub: been a couple weeks
# [17:04] <edmorley> glandium: do you mean aurora?
# [17:05] <edmorley> I can't see a leak on beta]
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# [17:05] <glandium> edmorley: i mean the hidden ones (i forgot i had a noignore=1)
# [17:05] <edmorley> ah
# [17:05] <edmorley> os x 10.7/8 leaks due to no java
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# [17:06] <hub> glandium: ah ok. nice.
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# [17:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/725506e4c115 - Mike Hommey - Bug 799295 - Work around gcc 4.5 miscompilation of CanEncodeInfoInHeader by always inlining it. r=dvander,a=akeybl
# [17:11] <henshaw> stransky: when you say org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver is outdated and doesn't work, what do you mean? I see the dbus interface is still present on a recent-sih gnome livecd, but haven't tested it since iirc the screensaver is disabled on the livecd anyway.
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# [17:12] <glandium> edmorley: do you have the bug # for the disabling of linux dromaeojs on beta/aurora?
# [17:12] <stransky> henshaw, the inhibit method has been removed and you can get only screensaver timeout from it
# [17:12] <henshaw> and of course it existing on non-gnome desktops is a bonus
# [17:12] <edmorley> glandium: bug 812076
# [17:13] <henshaw> gah. that's a pretty horrendous state of affairs
# [17:15] <edmorley> glandium: the os x 10.7/10.8 leaks are bug 705570
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# [17:16] <glandium> edmorley: 812076's status is bugging me
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# [17:17] <edmorley> glandium: invalid?
# [17:17] <glandium> edmorley: it's wontfix
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# [17:17] <edmorley> glandium: yeah I meant would you prefer invalid
# [17:17] <glandium> edmorley: although it *is* still running, it's just hidden.
# [17:18] <edmorley> if it's green I'll unhide it
# [17:18] <glandium> edmorley: it will turn green on my push
# [17:18] <glandium> edmorley: i'd have done aurora as well if it weren't closed
# [17:18] <edmorley> ok, I'll unhide and star the previous :-) (for beta)
# [17:18] <glandium> although arguably, i could land on the closed tree
# [17:19] <henshaw> stransky: do you have a link to the reasoning handy or should I try to find out from the gnome people directly?
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# [17:20] <henshaw> is it reasonable to try the freedesktop interface if the gnome one doesn't exist? I wonder what e.g. vlc do, they have to cope with every possibility.
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# [17:25] <stransky> henshaw, i was talking about it with gnome people, they directed me to the http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/gtk/gtkapplication.c#n1412.
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# [17:26] <stransky> henshaw, they told me the screensaver doc is outdated (and I used dbus debugger to confirm it)
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# [17:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99b74e86c185 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 815561 - Limit Web Activities to the foreground application [r=sicking]
# [17:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1606b7ce6b64 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 815198 - [Webapps] Webapps.download should call Webapps.applyDownload when installState is 'pending' [r=ferjm]
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# [17:44] <rillian> padenot: have you written up your mp3 sniffing method as a contribution to the mime-sniff draft?
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# [17:47] <jimm> Bas: ping
# [17:48] <Bas> jimm: pong
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# [17:49] <jimm> baku: hey, do you remember the bug number for the bug where you had to land 8.0 sdk headers?
# [17:50] <padenot> rillian: you mean the one that sniffs UTF-16 with BOM document as mp3 ?
# [17:50] <jimm> just want to file a follow up on removing that once we switch to the 8.0 sdk for mc.
# [17:50] <baku> jimm, no sorry :/
# [17:50] <padenot> rillian: I could contribute the mp3-in-id3 one, though, you are right
# [17:50] <padenot> s/could/should/
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# [17:50] <jimm> oy, sorry baku. Bas: ^^
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# [17:52] <Bas> jimm: Bug 784382
# [17:52] <jimm> thx
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# [17:56] <rillian> padenot: yeah, the second one :)
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# [17:57] <padenot> rillian: what do you suggest to tell the relevant people? email to whatwg or?
# [17:57] <padenot> or maybe you have no ideaa
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# [17:58] <rillian> padenot: whatwg probably works. it's an official ietf websec draft, so the proper thing to do is probably to suggest it there
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# [17:59] <padenot> rillian: alright, it is on the piece of paper that serves as a todo list, I'll get to it shortly
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# [17:59] <@ehsan> glandium: did you forget to land bug 799295 on aurora? (just checking)
# [18:00] <glandium> ehsan: aurora is closed
# [18:00] <rillian> padenot: actually sending it to both whatwg and websec@ietf.org is probably best
# [18:00] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [18:00] <glandium> ehsan: i was pondering whether i'd land on the closed tree or not
# [18:00] <rillian> I suspect there's significant non-overlap
# [18:00] <@ehsan> glandium: it's probably a good idea not to :)
# [18:01] <@ehsan> gavin: ping
# [18:01] <@ehsan> ted: ping
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# [18:02] <@ted> ehsan: pong
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# [18:03] <@ehsan> ted: do you know why this patch https://bug801232.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=685466 could break builds like this? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17363557&tree=Try
# [18:03] <@ehsan> ted: (note the Makefile.in change)
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# [18:06] <@ted> biError: package error or possible missing or unnecessary file: bin/components/DownloadsStartup.js (package-manifest, 232).
# [18:06] <@ted> (up above the error text, in the full log)
# [18:06] <@ted> horrible mangling of error text, whee
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# [18:06] <@ted> hooray for windows
# [18:07] <@ted> apparently that file didn't get put in the right place
# [18:07] <@ehsan> ted: yeah I saw the error message :)
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# [18:07] <@ted> oh well, you put it in _MODULES
# [18:07] <@ehsan> ted: but I don't understand why it happens
# [18:07] <@ted> so it's probably in dist/bin/modules
# [18:07] <@ted> ehsan: we have errors turned on for packaging errors
# [18:07] <@ted> if a file is listed in package-manifest and it's not present, we error
# [18:07] <@ehsan> oh I see
# [18:08] <@ehsan> so should I use EXTRA_PP_COMPONENTS?
# [18:08] <@ehsan> (assuming that it's a thing!)
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# [18:10] <lduros> is this the right channel to ask questions on custom FF builds and the autoconf/makefile craze?
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# [18:11] <lduros> looks like "#build" is not the channel for that
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# [18:11] <gcp> this certainly isnt a totally wrong channel to ask
# [18:11] <Noah> lduros: dang, thought the guys in #build would of been all over that. yeah this is a good channel.
# [18:11] <lduros> hmm ok, thanks
# [18:11] <lduros> :-)
# [18:12] <lduros> now I have to find a question to ask that will make sense, this will take a while ;-)
# [18:12] <mbrubeck> #build is basically #releng but with the wrong name. :P
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# [18:12] <Noah> mbrubeck: ah exactly! that's what I was always thinking hehe
# [18:12] <lduros> an unfortunate misnomer
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# [18:14] <@gavin> ehsan: pong
# [18:14] <glandium> lduros: if it's purely an autoconf/makefile question, #pymake is what you're looking for
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# [18:14] <glandium> lduros: but here works too
# [18:14] <@ehsan> gavin: does your divine intervention also apply to bug 456884? ;)
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# [18:15] <lduros> glandium: hmm ok :-)
# [18:15] <lduros> I thought pymake was strictly for python
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# [18:16] <glandium> lduros: #pymake is basically #build but with the wrong name :)
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# [18:16] <lduros> ah
# [18:16] <lduros> an unfortunate misnomer
# [18:16] <@gavin> ehsan: that's a bit trickier...
# [18:16] <Noah> glandium: do you you remember the makefile gurus of this channel? t.ed, wal.do, m.finkle? (periods are to prevent pinging them)
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# [18:17] <glandium> Noah: khuey, gps, me
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# [18:18] <@ehsan> gavin: ok, so who should ui-r it?
# [18:18] <Waldo> um, I'm considered a Makefile guru now? somebody tell me where I went wrong!
# [18:18] <glandium> Noah: and ted, from your list
# [18:18] <Noah> glandium: ah cool.
# [18:18] <Waldo> you really probably don't want me in that list, I just cargo-cult my way through build-fu mostly :-)
# [18:19] <Waldo> sometimes I dive deeper, but only rarely, and I usually regret it when I do
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# [18:19] <Waldo> :-)
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# [18:19] <Noah> Waldo: hehe my bad! I think I vaguely remember you talking about it once. :P But what do you consider your speciality then?
# [18:19] <Waldo> all-around hack
# [18:19] <Waldo> ...er
# [18:19] <Waldo> :-)
# [18:19] <Waldo> itinerant dabbler
# [18:20] <Waldo> a little more seriously (not that dabbler was unserious), JS, mfbt, httpd.js, some testing stuff, various other bits of Gecko
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# [18:21] <lduros> if you setthe variable browser.search.defaultenginename = in region.properties or the like, do you have to use quotes or not? Or does it not matter?
# [18:22] <lduros> isn't this supposed to be javascript :-)
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# [18:26] <lduros> I'm seeing lines like: "browser.contentHandlers.types.1.title=My Yahoo"
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# [18:30] <Waldo> .properties files aren't JavaScript, so it's unlikely you should be quoting values there
# [18:30] <lduros> Waldo: ok, thanks
# [18:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00d402add716 - Ed Morley - Backout fae627fef335 (bug 795065) for browser-chrome failures
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# [18:38] <dougt> missing context
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# [18:59] <@killer> I don't know who jwalker is.
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# [18:59] <edmorley> smaug: joe_walker
# [18:59] <@smaug> joe_walker: I think the error is coming from your push
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# [19:00] <@smaug> I did hg pull -u just before your push and it was ok
# [19:00] <@smaug> but now hg gives error
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# [19:00] <joe_walker> hg gives error?
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# [19:00] <@smaug> abort: data/browser/makefiles.sh.i@037e15b25094 : no match found!
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# [19:01] <@smaug> hg update -C gives now that
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# [19:03] <joe_walker> smaug: do you get that from a plain 'hg up' ?
# [19:03] <joe_walker> guessing you do
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# [19:03] <nigelb> Are there no 64-bit aurora builds?
# [19:04] <nigelb> (linux)
# [19:04] <@smaug> joe_walker: yes, hg update gives it too
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# [19:04] <joe_walker> we've tried on 3 separate repos, and can't reproduce that
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# [19:05] <victorporof> smaug: wfm as well
# [19:05] <joe_walker> might it be worth doing a fresh clone?
# [19:05] <edmorley> nigelb: aurora still a bit busted, might be why
# [19:05] <nigelb> edmorley: I mean. the website straight up prompts 32-bit downloads :(
# [19:06] <edmorley> oh
# [19:07] <victorporof> smaug: hg --version?
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# [19:08] <@smaug> victorporof: 2.2.3
# [19:09] <victorporof> smaug: that's pretty old afaik, so probably the cause for the conflict. i've got 2.3.1
# [19:09] <kbrosnan> nigelb: long standing issue on mozilla for linux
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# [19:10] <kbrosnan> nigelb: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527907
# [19:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79b27ec730c2 - David Keeler - bug 746374 - differentiate click-to-play plugin permissions by type and vulnerability status r=jaws r=joshmoz
# [19:11] <nigelb> kbrosnan: ah, thanks. I guess I should queue up ia32-libs :)
# [19:11] <@smaug> ok, I try re-cloning
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# [19:12] <kbrosnan> nigelb: the 64 builds are produced
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# [19:15] <kbrosnan> nigelb: just not exposed ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-aurora/
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# [19:17] <nigelb> kbrosnan: Thanks!
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# [19:20] <@smaug> khuey: could you perhaps looks at my review request. Shouldn't take too much time. But since the patch touches so many files, it will require merging if not landed soon.
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# [19:22] <seth> somehow last night i was so tired i managed to delete a necessary file from my patch just prior to submitting a try job. drat!
# [19:22] <@bz> er, reviews
# [19:22] <@bz> which are similar to ew-views, sure. ;)
# [19:22] <seth> some more ew than others, i imagine =)
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# [19:33] <seth> just found this and i'm finding it pretty helpful: https://github.com/junkblocker/patchreview-vim
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# [19:58] <mcepl> ted: ping ... is there any ETA on your review of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=800557, please?
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# [19:59] <@ted> didn't realize that was even still in my queue
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# [19:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d729743b9474 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 814519 - Fix a typo in SimpleTest/setup.js; r=ted
# [19:59] <mcepl> ted: thanks a lot
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# [20:00] <lduros> in about:home, the javascript there expects a localStorage["search-engine"] value with what looks like the defaultenginename and a searchUrl value. Anyone knows where the "searchUrl" values gets defined initially with a new install?
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# [20:01] <edmorley> ted: don't you get teh weekly "outstanding reviews" email... ;-)
# [20:02] <@ted> yes
# [20:02] <@ted> i ignore it
# [20:02] <@ted> :-P
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# [20:05] <@ted> true
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# [20:11] <mcepl> ted: thanks
# [20:12] <@ted> np
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# [20:31] <rillian> where does the discussion forum bug form live?
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# [20:32] <rillian> I found bugs about it, and the source code, but not the live url
# [20:32] <edmorley> context?
# [20:32] <edmorley> and which forum?
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# [20:40] <edmorley> newsgroup?
# [20:40] <rillian> mailing list really, but I thought we had both of those, gatewayed to each other
# [20:40] <rillian> I understand from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776670 that there's a form somewhere
# [20:40] <edmorley> ok, I was just confused by "forum"
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# [20:43] <rillian> edmorley: me too :)
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# [20:44] <vladan> bjacob: you can request the dashboard feature from here: https://projects.mozilla.org/browse/METRICS . You'll have to be logged in
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# [20:46] <Mook_as> rillian: wild guess: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&format=mozlist
# [20:46] <bjacob> vladan: ew, do i have to create an account?
# [20:47] <bjacob> ah, ldap works
# [20:47] <rillian> Mook_as: that's the one! thanks.
# [20:47] <vladan> bjacob: it will use your LDAP
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# [20:48] <Mook_as> rillian: note that I've never _used_ that form before, I just took some educated guesses to find its url ;)
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# [20:49] <@smaug> edmorley: which one now?
# [20:49] <rillian> Mook_as: noted :)
# [20:49] <@smaug> oh, that jira
# [20:49] <edmorley> metrics jira (nothing new; just don't believe I've ever heard why)
# [20:49] <firebot> Check-in:
# [20:50] <mconnor> edmorley: because it's the best thing ever.
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# [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85334460fd29 - Nils Maier - Bug 814470 - Fix a leak when channel setup in AsyncFetchAndSetIconFromNetwork fails by not tracking the channel in the first place and thus avoiding a circular references.
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# [20:50] <mconnor> edmorley: or... something
# [20:50] <firebot> r=mak
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# [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d5420af2c27 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 814723 - Don't warn about missing 'browser.newtab.url' in nsDocShell. r=jlebar
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# [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4542314559d8 - vliu - Bug 813823 - AudioManager reports unknown status when inserting headphone or headset. r=mwu
# [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16dc855a0216 - Matej Cepl - Bug 800557 - Build shouldn't depend on simplejson. r=froydnj, r=ted
# [20:50] <mak> firebot: thanks firebot for nagging me :)
# [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b73c8bdc701 - Jason Smith - Bug 781534 - Create basic automated test coverage for the mozGetUserMedia for desktop. r=roc
# [20:50] <firebot> mak: Sorry, I've no idea what 'thanks firebot for nagging me :)' might be.
# [20:50] <edmorley> mak mak mak
# [20:50] <edmorley> :-)
# [20:50] <edmorley> mak: how are you btw?
# [20:50] <mak> edmorley: thanks for the backout, I actually found a real bug
# [20:51] <edmorley> yw
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# [20:51] <mak> edmorley: fine, the weather sucks though :)
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# [20:51] <mak> raining and raining
# [20:51] <edmorley> ha; the uk has been rain-tastic the last few days
# [20:51] <mak> well I should not tell you, indeed...
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# [20:51] <mak> so, we are inheriting uk weather :)
# [20:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c3a8eed0578 - Jason Duell - Bug 800799 - http-on-modify-request now called after JS that started the load is no longer on the stack. r=bz
# [20:52] <seth> bz: ping
# [20:52] <edmorley> mak: saw this yesterday, sums up the sentiment here https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305596_10100785172282229_629369261_n.jpg
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# [20:53] <mak> edmorley: lol
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# [20:55] <bjacob> vladan: https://projects.mozilla.org/browse/METRICS-1289
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# [20:56] <vladan> bjacob: thanks, made myself a "watcher" on the issue
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# [20:56] <@dolske> mak / edmorley: it's going to be very rainy in Cali this week to. Global Raining!
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# [20:57] <mak> sigh
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# [20:57] <@ehsan> ted: (urgent) ping
# [20:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c53e57a11ba - Bill McCloskey - No bug - Fix macro warning in jsgc.cpp (rs=Waldo)
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# [21:00] <@ehsan> glandium: khuey: ping
# [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b113b89bb19 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 813346 - Add getBitmapFromDataURI() to BitmapUtils. r=wesj
# [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8b2e300192ca - Bas Schouten - Bug 814101: Respect system-wide cleartype setting. r=jrmuizel,jfkthame a=akeybl
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# [21:06] <Waldo> edmorley: isn't rain the natural state of the weather in England?
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# [21:07] <josh> I have a test failure in browser_webconsole_bug_603750_websocket.js but I can't figure out how to run it locally - anyone know?
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# [21:09] <@ted> ehsan: pong
# [21:09] <@ehsan> ted: please take a look at this patch: https://bug815743.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=685767
# [21:09] <@ehsan> ted: I'm trying to backout 588909 from release
# [21:09] <@ehsan> the changes to config/autoconf.mk.in in the original patch do not apply cleanly on release
# [21:10] <@ehsan> because the content of config/autoconf.mk.in is now totally different
# [21:10] <@ehsan> do you know why?
# [21:10] <@ted> we removed autoconf.mk.in on trunk
# [21:10] <@ted> a while ago
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# [21:11] <@ted> well, we cleared it out
# [21:11] <@ehsan> so, should I make an equivalent change elsewhere?
# [21:11] <@ted> looks like that made it to release
# [21:11] <@ted> no, you don't have to change autoconf.mk.in anymore
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# [21:11] <@ehsan> ted: ok, good
# [21:11] <@ehsan> I'll build with both the official and non-official branding to make sure
# [21:11] <@ehsan> ted: thanks~
# [21:11] <@ted> np
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# [21:12] <@ehsan> lsblakk: the second patch is up for approval
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# [21:15] <@ehsan> BenWa: I'll let you post a summary of our discussion on but 795268 as a reply to robcee
# [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/498909bdf43f - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 783521 - Fix busted function override. r=mfinkle
# [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8151e40d325e - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 783521 - Hide the tab sidebar on full-screen mode on tablets. r=mfinkle
# [21:15] <robcee> ehsan: yeah, I figured we just missed a bit somewhere
# [21:15] <robcee> can always fix it up post-landing too, but comment in the bug if you get a chance, BenWa
# [21:16] <@ehsan> robcee: I and BenWa had a debate over what we should do at lunch
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# [21:17] <robcee> and you didn't invite me?
# [21:17] <robcee> sad. :(
# [21:18] <robcee> (I'm not really sad, go on)
# [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3d44fd7dce4 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 812742. Fix sequence codegen to not do AppendElement multiple times by accident. r=peterv
# [21:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4909612f296 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 814576. Make XMLHttpRequest really set its progress events as trusted. r=smaug
# [21:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/279541c0d07c - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 814050. XMLHttpRequest.withCredentials header should throw on main thread too, in some cases. r=peterv
# [21:18] <BenWa> robcee: Why waste an hour when you can get a short summary :)
# [21:19] <robcee> that is a great way to look at it
# [21:19] <robcee> though sometimes the discussion is the best part?
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# [21:20] <nemo> huh. just what is google doing w/ a firefox plugin anyway? I don't remember ever asking for it
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# [21:22] <BenWa> bjacob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=814864&attachment=685156
# [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e37dbe22164 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 811812 - Sacrifice virtualenv population output to TBPL gods; r=ted
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# [21:24] <@bz> nemo: haha
# [21:24] <@bz> nemo: you're so trusting....
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# [21:25] <tchevalier> Hi mak, stuff landed in about:telemetry today so just let me rebase this and I attach the patch :)
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# [21:25] <mak> tchevalier: hi, didn't mean to rush you, just trying to figure out if you needed any help
# [21:25] <nemo> :-p
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# [21:27] <tchevalier> mak: I know, no pb :) Like I said on the bug, it's just about updating rejected pref in about:telemetry, but I have smthing weird, I can explain if you xant
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# [21:28] <mak> tchevalier: I didn't look at the new about:telemetry page code, so I will need to update myself on it before being able to help. maybe better to follow-up in the bug
# [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93ca9158ae3e - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 771250 - Copy pdfjs extension to Firefox Metro. r=dtownsend
# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b19684c7502a - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 815475 - Fix pfjs when there is no integrated findbar (pdfjs 0.6.39 broke Firefox metro). r=dtownsend
# [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c426c6ea5ff7 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 767933 part 2. Implement codegen for 'unrestricted float' and 'unrestricted double', as aliases for float and double for now. r=khuey
# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0a5bc47e590 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 767933 part 5. Remove no longer needed FloatValidate calls from canvas code. r=bas
# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ce2a3b3b08e - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 767933 part 4. Make 'float' and 'double' types throw on non-finite values. r=khuey,ehsan,bas
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# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8375549bb321 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 767933 part 1. Implement parser support for 'unrestricted float' and 'unrestricted double', and for the [LenientFloat] extended attribute. r=khuey
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# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/935af8796e8f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 767933 part 3. Update our IDL as needed to use unrestricted float/double or [LenientFloat]. r=khuey,bjacob
# [21:31] <@smaug> evilpie: any reason you didn't address all the review comments?
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# [21:31] <@smaug> er, hmm
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# [21:31] <evilpie> smaug: which one?
# [21:31] <@smaug> I guess you followed what bz said
# [21:31] <evilpie> oh yes
# [21:32] <@smaug> I'd prefer aContent->IsHTML stuff
# [21:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5b4caaea44f - Mark Finkle - Bug 809942 - ToolkitProfile service can't change default profile r=wesj
# [21:32] <evilpie> okay i don't feel strongly about that
# [21:33] <tchevalier> mak: Alright, I will attach a patch (maybe not working and probably dirty) to bug 737600. And the final one to 699806
# [21:33] <mak> tchevalier: sure
# [21:37] <Yoric> jaws: ping
# [21:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c2011091748 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 815158 (Make HTMLElement.ontouch* work with tristate dom.w3c_touch_events.enabled). r=bz.
# [21:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf8746658a72 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 814821 (Dromaeo dom-traverse regression from bug 812333) - part 4: inline xpc_qsUnwrapObj. r=bz.
# [21:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d70b4460508 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 814195 (Replace Element quickstubs with new binding methods). r=bz.
# [21:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49fc6d535c41 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 814821 (Dromaeo dom-traverse regression from bug 812333) - part 2: make WrapNewBindingObject a little faster. r=bz.
# [21:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e73366b088d7 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 814821 (Dromaeo dom-traverse regression from bug 812333) - part 3: reorder castNativeFromWrapper. r=bz.
# [21:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/987aea26a43a - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 814821 (Dromaeo dom-traverse regression from bug 812333) - part 1: use qsObjectHelper instead of xpcObjectHelper in HandleNewBindingWrappingFailure.
# [21:38] <firebot> r=bz.
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# [21:53] <Bas> :)
# [21:53] <jfkthame> gotcha!
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# [21:56] <@smaug> evilpie: have you tested 'download' with other than http(s) protocols?
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# [22:02] <edmorley> ehsan: the rest of bug 799502 needs to come out as well I think
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# [22:03] <@ehsan> edmorley: perhaps, but that's risky and I don't wanna do that
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# [22:16] <RyanVM> edmorley: I've got a backout on billm ready if osx bc stays orange
# [22:17] <edmorley> cool
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# [22:17] <edmorley> thank you
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# [22:24] <@ehsan> sfink: I'm backing you out...
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# [22:24] <RyanVM> ehsan: want to get cjones while you're at it?
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# [22:25] <sfink> ehsan: sorry, and thanks. I swear I built the rev I pushed... oh. Damn.
# [22:25] <RyanVM> ehsan: or peterv
# [22:25] <@ehsan> heh, sure
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# [22:25] <myk> glandium: someone reports not being able to run B2G Desktop for 64-bit Linux on his installation due to "XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /.../libxpcom.so: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by libxul.so)"; is that expected (and necessary)?
# [22:25] <RyanVM> ehsan: yeah, peterv
# [22:25] <@ehsan> yep
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# [22:27] <nthomas> myk: on RHEL5 or derivative ?
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# [22:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82e61145a1dc - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 813381) for build bustage
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# [22:28] <myk> nthomas: "Linux Mint Debian Edition, 64bit with 'Wheezy' repositories"
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# [22:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: were you going to star those?
# [22:29] <myk> nthomas: but i've heard similar (albeit less detailed) stories from folks on Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 10.10, and OpenSuse OS 12.2 64bit
# [22:29] <@ehsan> RyanVM: no, sorry, in the middle of something :(
# [22:30] <@ehsan> RyanVM: can you please take care of it?
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# [22:30] <RyanVM> ehsan: not a prob, just didn't want to double up
# [22:30] <nthomas> myk: ok. I was guessing it was the change in requirements at Fx17 (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/17.0/system-requirements/) but that's Glib 2.22 anyway
# [22:30] <@ehsan> RyanVM: thanks!
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# [22:31] <myk> nthomas: i can't reproduce on Ubuntu 12.10 and Fedora 17 64-bit installations, but presumably that's because they have newer glibcs
# [22:31] <nthomas> hmm, I have a 10.04 hanging around somewhere
# [22:31] <nthomas> 32bit though
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# [22:33] <myk> nthomas: i haven't been hearing complaints from the 32-bit users; just the 64-bit ones
# [22:33] <nthomas> myk: ok, my contribution of noise ends here then
# [22:33] <myk> nthomas: the details are mostly in <https://github.com/mozilla/r2d2b2g/issues/105>
# [22:34] <myk> nthomas: oh well, thanks for playing! ;-)
# [22:34] <nthomas> heh
# [22:34] <billm> Ryan: pong
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# [22:37] <RyanVM> billm: nevermind, we had a suspecious-looking orange. An assertion in jsgc that hit for the first time on your checkin and again on the next, but hasn't been hit since
# [22:38] <RyanVM> billm: osx 10.8 debug bc if you're interested
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# [22:38] <@ehsan> does bugzilla work for other people?
# [22:38] <RyanVM> billm: actually, it is still hitting
# [22:38] <RyanVM> billm: I'm going to back you out, sorry
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# [22:39] <glandium> myk: if you don't have 32-bits libraries installed on your 64-bits system, 32-bits builds won't work
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# [22:39] <billm> Ryan: that's really weird. that change shouldn't have affected anything.
# [22:40] <glandium> myk: or, in that case, it looks like your 64-bits libc is too old
# [22:40] <billm> RyanVM: also, please don't star isCollecting assertions as bug 808306. it's different.
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# [22:40] <glandium> myk: where does your build come from?
# [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37a54196d003 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets fff6b88d59c4 and 1c53e57a11ba (no bug) for OSX 10.8 bc crashes.
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# [22:41] <myk> glandium: these are 64-bit linux nightly builds from https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/
# [22:41] <RyanVM> billm: since there's no bug to post it to ^
# [22:41] <myk> glandium: so it's a 64-bit build on 64-bit systems
# [22:41] <RyanVM> billm: and noted
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# [22:42] <jprmc> roc bz dbaron : moment while the toronto network comes back up
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# [22:42] <@ehsan> jprmc: it's up as long as you don't need to resolve names ;)
# [22:43] <jprmc> ehsan: i do :-)
# [22:43] <@ehsan> jprmc: use 8.8.8.8
# [22:43] <jprmc> yup
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# [22:45] <felipe> ehsan: with per-window PB, will there be two cookie sets, one for PB and one for non-PB? or will each PB window have its own set?
# [22:45] <@ehsan> felipe: there's just two
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# [22:45] <myk> glandium: the distributions themselves vary; the ones that have reported problems that may be this issue are OpenSuse OS 12.2 (both 32-bit and 64-bit), Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 10.10, "Linux Mint", and Debian Weezy
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# [22:46] <myk> glandium: but only the person on "Linux Mint Debian Edition, 64bit with 'Wheezy' repositories" has dug deeply enough to get to the error "`GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by libxul.so)"
# [22:46] <myk> glandium: so, for the others, i can't say for sure that it's the same problem (although it seems likely)
# [22:46] <felipe> ehsan: ok! and will global PB still exist or will it be gone? (or simply tied to marking every window as a PB window?)
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# [22:47] <@ehsan> felipe: it will be gone for good
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# [22:47] <jprmc> roc dbaron ok, we are on now
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# [22:47] <glandium> myk: GLIBC_2.14 seems an awful lot too new
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# [22:48] <felipe> ehsan: nice, thx for the info! I'm thinking of the per-window PB model for social api, i'm writing up a plan.. will send an e-mail soon
# [22:48] <@ehsan> felipe: sounds awesome! thanks :)
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# [22:52] <glandium> myk: do you know where these are built?
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# [22:53] <myk> glandium: not really, but here's a log for the latest central nightly: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/2012-11-27-03-04-10-mozilla-central/mozilla-central-linux64_gecko-nightly-bm35-build1-build22.txt.gz
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# [22:53] <Bas> Who leads the security group these days?
# [22:54] <Matti> ehsan: Thank you very much for bug 815743 !
# [22:54] <@ehsan> np
# [22:54] <RyanVM> ehsan: leaks on m-b
# [22:54] <@ehsan> shoot
# [22:54] <@gavin> Bas: "leads" in what way?
# [22:55] <glandium> myk: ouch, it's building on a fedora 16 mock instance... that doesn't quite match what we use for firefox
# [22:55] <Bas> gavin: I think I found a bad security bug in Fx17 release, who do I talk to :p
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# [22:55] <@ehsan> hrm
# [22:55] <@ehsan> RyanVM: hard to say that it's not me, right? ;)_
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# [22:55] <@gavin> Bas: file a bug, request tracking, email release-drivers if truly critical
# [22:56] <@ehsan> RyanVM: should I back out?
# [22:56] <@gavin> ask in #security if you want to run it by someone
# [22:56] <RyanVM> ehsan: if you don't, I will :D
# [22:56] <Bas> gavin: Thanks/
# [22:56] <@ehsan> I'll do it
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# [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59281806d3a6 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 815652 - Remove accidental temporary rooting object (r=bhackett)
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# [22:58] <RyanVM> ehsan: hopefully you've got your aurora/inbound backouts ready too :P
# [22:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ab7e9feac7b8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 815743) because of leaks; a=me
# [22:58] <@ehsan> dammit
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# [22:58] <@ehsan> they're not kidding when they say no good deed goes unpunished :(
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# [22:58] <RyanVM> tell me about it
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# [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f5e2a9addff - Gregory Szorc - Bug 815219 - Part 2: Remove MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS from most in-tree mozconfigs; r=ted
# [22:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba730945bc6d - Gregory Szorc - Bug 815219 - Part 1: Automatically build using all available processor cores; r=ted
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# [22:59] <RyanVM> ehsan: btw, M4 has an actual failure too
# [22:59] <@ehsan> RyanVM: ok hold on
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# [22:59] <@ehsan> why do I need to backout from aurora?
# [23:00] <RyanVM> ehsan: I didn't say you had to yet :)
# [23:00] <@ehsan> ok
# [23:00] <@ehsan> you scared me
# [23:00] <jesup> bas: mark it as a security bug, of course :-)
# [23:00] <RyanVM> ehsan: we'll see soon, though
# [23:00] <@ehsan> yeah
# [23:00] <Bas> jesup: Well, no worries, that's the -first- thing I did ;)
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# [23:00] <@ehsan> RyanVM: ping me please if something goes wrong
# [23:00] <jesup> Anyone know much about Mac CoreMedia stuff?
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# [23:02] <RyanVM> ehsan: ping (aurora)
# [23:02] <@ehsan> dammit
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# [23:02] <myk> glandium: indeed, the firefox linux 64-bit builds are on a machine with glibc 2.12
# [23:02] <RyanVM> ehsan: gotta go put the baby down for a nap. back in a bit
# [23:03] <@ehsan> ok
# [23:03] <@ehsan> thanks
# [23:03] <glandium> myk: they're on centos6
# [23:03] <myk> glandium: f.e. https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/2012-11-27-03-04-10-mozilla-central/mozilla-central-linux32_gecko-nightly-bm35-build1-build63.txt.gz
# [23:04] <espindola> so, if I understand bug 649537 correctly
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# [23:04] <espindola> if I want to use some c++ code that does IO from JS, the options I have are
# [23:04] <espindola> * do the threading in c++
# [23:04] <@ehsan> lsblakk: ping
# [23:04] <espindola> * convert the code to js
# [23:04] <espindola> is that that it?
# [23:04] <lsblakk> ehsan: pong
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# [23:05] <@ehsan> lsblakk: we might need to find someone else for bug 815743
# [23:05] <espindola> bent, ^
# [23:05] <@ehsan> lsblakk: is that ok?
# [23:05] * lsblakk looks
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# [23:05] <espindola> (ignoring freezing the ui an a option :-) )
# [23:05] <lsblakk> ehsan: ok - will look for someone
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# [23:06] <@ehsan> lsblakk: thanks, let me know if you couldn't
# [23:06] <@ehsan> lsblakk: sorry, but I thought this would be a 10 minute project :/
# [23:06] <lsblakk> no worries
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# [23:08] <myk> glandium: sounds worth filing a bug on; agree?
# [23:08] <glandium> myk: i'm waiting for an answer on #build
# [23:08] <myk> glandium: ok
# [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14c1eb8471f6 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 815441 - Make errors pre-empt emulator callback warning, r=mdas
# [23:10] <espindola> Yoric, ping
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# [23:15] <Yoric> espindola: Very sleepy pong.
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# [23:15] <Yoric> Can this wait until tomorrow?
# [23:15] <espindola> Yoric, sure can
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# [23:15] <Yoric> (or at least until the baby wakes me up)
# [23:15] <espindola> heh
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# [23:17] <bent> espindola, hm, what are you trying?
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# [23:18] <espindola> bent, in telemetry there is some data on disk that we want to read
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# [23:19] <espindola> bent, one that we are already reading is the shutdown time
# [23:20] <espindola> one that I was coding is the late writes information
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# [23:20] <espindola> it would be convenient to read it in c++
# [23:20] <espindola> I am looking at what the options are to avoid blocking the main thread
# [23:20] <espindola> my initial idea was using a ChromeWorker to call into c++
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# [23:21] <espindola> but that is not possible, short of using jsctypes on libxul, right?
# [23:21] <espindola> bent, bug 815709 if you are interested
# [23:22] <bent> espindola, at some point during shutdown all workers are forced to close
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# [23:22] <bent> so depending on when you need to read this it may not be possible to do in workers
# [23:22] <espindola> np, this is for reading back
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# [23:22] <espindola> not for writing
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# [23:22] <bent> i'm confused
# [23:23] <espindola> so, firefox writes data to disk late during shutdown
# [23:23] <bent> right
# [23:23] <espindola> starts again and wants to read it to send it to the telemetry server
# [23:23] <bent> ah, so this is actually early on startup
# [23:23] <espindola> but right now the read is on the main thread
# [23:23] <bent> that you want to read
# [23:23] <bent> ok
# [23:23] <espindola> well, at "firefox decides to send it" time
# [23:23] <bent> it just writes this to a file or something?
# [23:23] <espindola> not actually sure when that is schedule
# [23:23] <RyanVM> ehsan: do you have any reason to believe that things will be any better on inbound?
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# [23:24] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I don't know...
# [23:24] <@ehsan> do you want me to backout now?
# [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98edf6f6d9fe - Andres Hernandez - Bug 814702 - toolkit/components/downloads/test/unit/test_privatebrowsing_cancel.js fails on Birch; r=ehsan
# [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1859634b922 - Bellindira Castillo [:bellindira] - Bug 814701 - toolkit/components/downloads/test/unit/test_privatebrowsing.js fails on Birch; r=ehsan
# [23:24] <espindola> bent, yes, for example, one of the last things firefox does is write how long it took to shutdown
# [23:24] <RyanVM> ehsan: I'm going to be intermittently around for awhile, so might as well
# [23:24] <bent> espindola, right, but how does it write it? as a flat text file or something?
# [23:24] <espindola> when it is running again we want to read that when we decide to send a telemetry ping
# [23:25] <espindola> text
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# [23:25] <bent> espindola, or in some kind of database
# [23:25] <bent> ok
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# [23:25] <@ehsan> ok
# [23:25] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I'll do that
# [23:25] <espindola> /home/espindola/.mozilla/firefox/hi0eve3t.default/Telemetry.ShutdownTime.txt
# [23:25] <bent> then you should just be able to use Yoric's OS.File thing
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# [23:25] <bent> from JS
# [23:25] <espindola> bent, for that one yes
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# [23:25] <espindola> but I also want to read late write info
# [23:25] <espindola> those are one stack per file
# [23:26] <espindola> it would be *possible* to use JS async file operations to read it
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# [23:26] <espindola> but we do have convenience functions to handle that in c++
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# [23:26] <bent> hm, so you're saying there are multiple files, each with one stack trace in it?
# [23:26] <espindola> so if I can read from c++ that is beter
# [23:26] <espindola> yes
# [23:27] <bent> what are these convenience functions you're talking about?
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# [23:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a79e44ef6b0a - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 815743) because it will probably leak...
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# [23:27] <espindola> for example, combining the stacks into a single object that is in the format used to talk with the symbolication server
# [23:27] <espindola> but this is getting very specific
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# [23:28] <espindola> the high level question is
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# [23:28] <espindola> using a ChromeWroker will no work, right?
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# [23:29] <espindola> and if so, do we have a c++ thread pool handy that I can use?
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# [23:30] <bent> well, there are a few options
# [23:30] <bent> you could do it all in c++
# [23:30] <bent> we have a threadpool for io like this
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# [23:30] <espindola> bent, awesome!
# [23:30] <espindola> which one
# [23:30] <bent> that's option 1
# [23:30] <espindola> I like option 1 a lot :-)
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# [23:31] <bent> ok then let's just do that
# [23:32] <bent> you want the stream transport service
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# [23:32] <bent> do_GetService(NS_STREAMTRANSPORTSERVICE_CONTRACTID)
# [23:32] <espindola> cool. Sorry, I have to run. I will keep the irc chat open and check it when I get back.
# [23:32] <espindola> Thanks again
# [23:32] <bent> that's it :)
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# [23:49] <mjrosenb> smaug: you know that since you said that you're going to need to write an uglier patch to fix something related to this patch, right?
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