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# Session Start: Thu Nov 29 00:00:00 2012
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# [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/32595106f709 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 810253 - Correctly dump arguments. r=dvander a=akeybl
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# [00:03] <nbp> ehsan: apparently I needed to update my script to use hg identify -r default <remote> to push on the right branch of beta. :)
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# [00:04] <nbp> ehsan: so no need of hg so far.
# [00:04] <Waldo> haters gonna hate
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# [00:08] <jwir3> is there a way to take a look at what someone's review queue looks like in bz? (I want to see how heavy the load is for a number of different people to choose who to send a review to)
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# [00:09] <Waldo> jwir3: fill in the field in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&type=all&requestee=jwalden%2Bbmo%40mit.edu&group=type
# [00:09] <jwir3> Waldo: merci ;)
# [00:09] <Waldo> the requests link more generally is in the page footer
# [00:09] <Waldo> although I just awesomebar my way to it these days :-)
# [00:10] <Waldo> ...only to be reminded of how behind I am with it, alas :-\
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# [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/39217ca36040 - Kyle Huey - Back out Bug 810719. a=shut-up-you-stupid-robot
# [00:10] <markh> you tell that bot!
# [00:10] <Waldo> interesting approver
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# [00:13] <myk> hwine: the commits on the beta branch in the github mirror look wrong
# [00:14] <hwine> myk: which repo?
# [00:14] <myk> hwine: https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/
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# [00:15] <myk> hwine: erm, perhaps my bad
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# [00:15] <myk> hwine: they look right on github, but wrong in my local repo, which is messed up somehow
# [00:15] <hwine> ah :(
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# [00:21] <@ehsan> myk: how do they look? what's the problem?
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# [00:22] <myk> ehsan: there are commits missing and others that seem to be from other branches; i blew away the clone and am re-cloning
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# [00:23] <@ehsan> myk: ok, let me know if I can help
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# [00:24] <myk> ehsan: will do, thanks!
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# [00:27] <@ehsan> bsmith: red on inbound
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# [00:28] <biesi> is it common mozilla code style to prefix global function calls with :: these days?
# [00:28] <biesi> e.g. ::NS_NewPipe
# [00:29] <@ehsan> biesi: not really
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# [00:29] <biesi> ehsan, hmm. should I ask him not to do that?
# [00:29] <@ehsan> but then again we don't have a common code style that everybody adheres to
# [00:29] <@ehsan> biesi: I would if I were you
# [00:29] <@ehsan> unless they really want to specify the scope for some reason
# [00:29] <biesi> ok
# [00:29] <biesi> thx
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# [00:30] <@ehsan> jwir3: I see that you are now among the people who knows about the "review sucker" ;)
# [00:30] <jwir3> ehsan: hahaha
# [00:30] <@ehsan> nice job on that ;)
# [00:30] <jwir3> :)
# [00:31] <@ehsan> jwir3: r=sucker
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# [00:32] <jwir3> ehsan: Thanks. :) As a reward, I will not advertise your newfound status.
# [00:32] <jwir3> :D
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# [00:32] <@ehsan> jwir3: shhh
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# [00:34] <bsmith> ehsan: I think that this patchset requires a clobber
# [00:35] <bsmith> I remember having similar issues before, and rebuilding solves them
# [00:35] <@ehsan> ok, I'll clobber for you
# [00:36] <@ehsan> bsmith: please send edmorley/ryanvm an email and tell them about it because they will probably merge it to central soon
# [00:36] <Waldo> ehsan: I think that violates the code of conduct
# [00:36] <@ehsan> ?
# [00:36] <Waldo> "I'll clobber you"
# [00:36] <@ehsan> hehe, I said I'll clobber for you
# [00:36] <Waldo> er
# [00:36] <@ehsan> that shouldn't be a violation
# [00:36] <Waldo> I fail at humor :-(
# [00:37] <Waldo> and at reading
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# [00:37] <@ehsan> nope, I fail at English!
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# [00:37] <@ehsan> clobber no longer has the same meaning for me
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# [00:37] <Waldo|failure> speaking of which, I hope Gecko is flushing children correctly these days
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# [00:39] <@ehsan> someone should shake the build slaves and make them work faster
# [00:39] <@ehsan> or else we'll get new slaves
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# [00:40] <bsmith> I think this is actually a build system bug, because it seems like updating the .gyp files for WebRTC don't (always) cause the generated makefiles to get regenerated and/or picked up.
# [00:40] <bsmith> ekr jesup: ^ does this seem to be the case for you guys as well?
# [00:40] <@ehsan> hmm clobbering is timing out
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# [00:41] <derf> bsmith: Yes, that has been a problem for us.
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# [00:44] <ekr> jesup is supposed to have fixed that
# [00:45] <spohl> quick question around <canvas>.toBlob() ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648610 )
# [00:45] <spohl> I don't think this does any compression yet
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# [00:46] <spohl> if I'd like to compress the extracted data to jpg, where should I be looking..?
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# [00:47] <spohl> (this is to address this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678392#c116 )
# [00:47] <nthomas|buildduty> the windows rebuilds on 1ca9218271b9 missed the clobber request
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# [00:48] <@ehsan> cpearce: ping
# [00:48] <Mook_as> spohl: can't canvas encode to jpg already for pushing things to data: uris?
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# [00:51] <spohl> Mook_as: checking..
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# [00:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea84c06a3b38 - Henrik Skupin - Bug 811873 - Disable WebRTC crashtests for crashtest-ipc. r=jesup
# [00:54] <biesi> anyone know if our mac builds are 64 or 32 bit?
# [00:54] <whimboo> biesi: both
# [00:54] <whimboo> biesi: or well, depends which one you are talking about
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# [00:54] <biesi> whimboo, I guess I was wondering if 32-bit macs are supported
# [00:55] <whimboo> biesi: nightly builds are 32/64
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# [00:55] <biesi> k
# [00:55] <whimboo> same for releases
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# [00:55] <Waldo> OS X users Think Different and get 64-bit support</troll>
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# [00:56] <seth> does NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS eagerly evaluate both of its arguments?
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# [00:57] <seth> i'm trying to figure out if NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, myVariable.forget()) is gonna blow up in my face =)
# [00:58] <spohl> Mook_as: thanks, sure looks like it. I'll try going down that path.
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# [00:59] <seth> it probably doesn't eagerly evaluate them. that'd be silly.
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# [00:59] <mattwoodrow> seth: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsDebug.h#300
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# [01:00] <seth> mattwoodrow: what do you want me to do, figure out my own answers instead of asking on irc? =p
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# [01:00] <seth> Mook_as: it kinda has to be!
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# [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95afbeaf4fe9 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 815397 - Clean up Accessibility cycle collector definitions. r=smaug
# [01:02] <mattwoodrow> seth: good point, I'm sorry :)
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# [01:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/003e1843e1d8 - Mark Hammond - Bug 815042 - leaving private browsing mode with social enabled now resets all social components. r=gavin, a=lsblakk
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# [01:14] <@bz> Anyone know how I can tell which platform has the lowest try load right now?
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# [01:15] <@ehsan> I'm not sure if that's possible
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# [01:16] <nthomas|buildduty> bz: for tests or compile ?
# [01:16] <bsmith> ekr jesup: perhaps it was fixed for *.gyp but not *.gypi? I modified a gypi, not a gyp.
# [01:16] <mattwoodrow> bz: I filed a bug for that a while ago, and got told to just use linux
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# [01:16] <@dolske> biesi: iirc the last thread on it, we still support(ed?) an OS X build that supported machines that didn't run in 64-bit mode
# [01:17] <derf> bsmith: Yes, last I knew we didn't do anything for .gypi's.
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# [01:17] <@dolske> biesi: soon we'll cross that threshold, and then AIUI it's just a matter of the usual concerns about 3rd party binary cruft we might break if we went 64-bit only
# [01:18] <@ehsan> bz: is it possible to get a JSContext* out of a window? :/
# [01:18] <@dolske> (which would presumably be jsut in time for the new rumor that Apple is considering switching to ARM on desktop!)
# [01:18] <nthomas|buildduty> mattwoodrow: that's probably changed now, at least for tests, as we run b2g emulator tests only on linux32 machines
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# [01:18] <@bz> nthomas|buildduty: tests, but not talos
# [01:18] <@bz> ehsan: yes
# [01:19] <nthomas|buildduty> anyway, the bottom of http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/pending.html shows the test backlog (the top two graphs aren't very trustworthy now)
# [01:19] <@bz> ehsan: generally speaking
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# [01:19] <@bz> ehsan: That said, why do you need one?
# [01:19] <@bz> nthomas|buildduty: aha, perfect
# [01:20] <@ehsan> bz: so I'm implementing decodeAudioAPI, and I need to create an AudioBuffer in order to put the result into, and that allocates typed arrays so it needs a JSContext*
# [01:20] <@bz> yeah, that's what I thought
# [01:20] <@ehsan> bz: and this is all async
# [01:20] <@bz> Linux has the biggest pending numbers.
# [01:20] <@ehsan> so I can't just use implicitJSContext
# [01:20] <@bz> ehsan: right
# [01:20] <@bz> ehsan: so if you have a window, QI to nsIScriptGlobalObject
# [01:21] <@bz> ehsan: then call GetContext to get an nsIScriptContext
# [01:21] <@bz> ehsan: then GetNativeContext()
# [01:21] <@ehsan> cool
# [01:21] <@bz> ehsan: note that GetContext() might return null if the window is closed or whatnot
# [01:21] <@ehsan> so, next question!
# [01:21] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [01:21] <@bz> But if you get a non-null nsIScriptContext then you're get a non-null JSContext, I think.
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# [01:22] <@bz> OK, next question?
# [01:22] <@ehsan> bz: is it possible to create a typed array based on a buffer that I have malloc'ed myself?
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# [01:23] <@ehsan> I mean, without copying, that is
# [01:23] <@bz> ehsan: not without copying, no
# [01:23] <@bz> ehsan: the JS folks keep meaning to add a way to do that....
# [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91dfecde7a96 - Scott Johnson - Bug 812372: Rename DocumentViewerImpl to nsDocumentViewer for consistency. [r=ehsan]
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# [01:24] <@ehsan> bz: is that super hard to do?
# [01:24] <@bz> ehsan: your options are either to copy, or to create the typed array first and then fill its internal buffer
# [01:24] <@ehsan> I'm already copying things like 20 times :(
# [01:24] <@bz> ehsan: well, it needs more API, like a way for you to tell the engine how to free the buffer...
# [01:24] <@ehsan> bz: I can't create the typed array first since I don't know its size
# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: erm
# [01:25] <@ehsan> bz: does it do anything fancier than free?
# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: I'm not quite following
# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: "it" being typed arrays in jseng?
# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: yes
# [01:25] <@ehsan> the size of the buffer is determined when decoding is finished
# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: small ones have inline buffers
# [01:25] <@ehsan> it == typed array
# [01:25] <@ehsan> argh :(
# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: larger ones allocate memory possibly via just free, but also keep track of it on the compartment
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# [01:25] <@bz> ehsan: so as to trigger gc as needed when a bunch of memory has been allocated
# [01:26] <@bz> ehsan: also "free" in jseng and your "free" may not use the same heap, esp. on Windows
# [01:26] <@ehsan> oh fun
# [01:26] <@bz> ehsan: I mean, in Firefox they do but in general they might not
# [01:26] <@bz> ehsan: for other JS embedders
# [01:26] <@ehsan> JSContext's are not thread safe either, right?
# [01:27] <@bz> ehsan: so you have to make sure to call free() in the same library (or at least with the same allocator) as malloc()
# [01:27] <@khuey> nope
# [01:27] <@khuey> definitely not
# [01:27] <@bz> ehsan: no
# [01:27] <@ehsan> yay
# [01:27] <@bz> ehsan: nothing in JS is threadsafe anymore
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# [01:27] <@ehsan> bz: ok so I'm gonna do something which you'll hate me for
# [01:27] <@bz> ehsan: modulo whatever nmatsakis is doing
# [01:27] <@bz> mmm
# [01:27] <Waldo> ehsan: the memory-ownership issue is the big reason we haven't added anything for that yet; it's also kind of a can of worms, because if you add an API and then later find out it gets in the way of performance improvements, you might have dug yourself into a deep hole
# [01:27] <@bz> Mail sfink, you mean? ;)
# [01:27] <@ehsan> I'll send a message to the main thread, get the context there, create the typed array, and will then send it back to my worker to proceed with the copying
# [01:28] <@ehsan> how do you like that? ;)
# [01:28] <NeilAway> smaug: well, the problem is that the tooltip code assumes it's an element, and gets confused when you hover over the edge of the print preview document
# [01:28] <@ehsan> Waldo: I see
# [01:28] <@smaug> NeilAway: ah
# [01:28] <@bz> ehsan: That's probably survivable if the typed array is rooted and not script-exposed
# [01:29] <Waldo> ehsan: there's actually a system being set up to let you hand arraybuffers across compartment boundaries, threads, etc. safely (without letting them both access the data simultaneously, which would be crazytalk)
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# [01:29] <NeilAway> smaug: so there are actually three places where there might be a bug a) the event code b) the tooltip code c) the ui code
# [01:29] <Waldo> ehsan: sfink knows more about it, and how to work with it, and how to use it from JSAPI (or add JSAPI for it), than I do
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# [01:29] <Waldo> NeilAway: can I place bets on all of them?
# [01:29] <@smaug> NeilAway: a) is obviously impossible ;)
# [01:30] <@bz> ehsan: please do mail sfink and tell him what your situation is
# [01:30] <@bz> ehsan: as a "here's what I lack API to do" kind of thing
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# [01:31] <@ehsan> bz: ok, so if I get the rooting right, you won't r- this, right?
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# [01:32] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, so unless you know better, I'll tweak the ui code to deal
# [01:32] <@bz> ehsan: yeah
# [01:32] <Waldo> ehsan: you're sending the pointer to the data across threads, right? (not the pointer to the object)
# [01:32] <@smaug> NeilAway: I'd assume UI code expects element
# [01:32] <@bz> ehsan: assuming that the latency of the thread switches is ok in your case and the array is potentially large
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# [01:33] <@bz> ehsan: and again, as long as JS can't touch the object until you finish filling the buffer
# [01:33] <@ehsan> Waldo: you're talking about my implementation objects?
# [01:33] <@ehsan> bz: maybe, and it can't
# [01:33] <@bz> He's talking about float* vs JSObject* vs ArrayBuffer*
# [01:33] <Waldo> ehsan: object as in the typed array object, or the arraybuffer object, whose elements are being filled
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# [01:33] <Waldo> or what bz said :-)
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# [01:34] <@ehsan> yeah I'll send a float* across threads
# [01:34] <Waldo> okay; "create the typed array, and will then send it back to my worker" had me binding "it" most closely to the typed array, not to its data
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# [01:36] <@ehsan> :D
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# [01:36] <nthomas|buildduty> FYI, the most recent test results may not display on TBPL. We switched the domain that we download tests files from to avoid intermittent DNS issues, but TBPL only likes to get logs from ftp.m.o.
# [01:37] <nthomas|buildduty> er, make that test logs
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# [01:37] <NeilAway> smaug: well, the tooltip backend code assumes that it's an nsIContent, so that rules out a document
# [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b516748a65c - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 816314: NPE in AwesomeBar while checking private browsing mode. [r=bnicholson]
# [01:37] <lsblakk> oh tbpl - why are you case sensitive?
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# [01:37] <NeilAway> smaug: the tooltip interface only specifies an nsIDOMNode, but by then it's too late :s
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# [01:37] <NeilAway> smaug: hmm, this may also explain why the tooltip appears in the wrong place
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# [01:39] <@smaug> NeilAway: yup
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# [01:40] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, I'll CC Enn and see what he says
# [01:40] <@smaug> k
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# [01:42] <cpearce> ehsan: pong
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# [01:42] <@ehsan> cpearce: is the stuff in AudioData interleaved?
# [01:43] <cpearce> ehsan: yes, IIRC.
# [01:43] <@ehsan> sadface
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# [01:45] <@ehsan> nthomas|buildduty: do you know why I cannot access logs from the birch branch?
# [01:45] <nthomas|buildduty> yes, I mentioned it above
# [01:45] <jesup|laptop> bsmith: didn't read all the backscroll, but if it's that changing a .gypi doesn't force a rebuild of the makefiles - yeah, I noticed that a few days ago and talked with ted about it. Probably needs us to change gyp, not just the backend
# [01:46] <cpearce> ehsan: yes, IIRC.
# [01:46] <cpearce> oops.
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# [01:46] <@ehsan> cpearce: see my sadface above ;)
# [01:46] <cpearce> yeah
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# [01:47] <@ehsan> nthomas|buildduty: oh so what should I do?
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# [01:47] <nthomas|buildduty> ehsan: you can manually copy the url from error message
# [01:47] <nthomas|buildduty> I'm reverting my change
# [01:48] <cpearce> ehsan: we have to convert to interleaved from planar in the vorbis decoding bit of the webm decoder, so you're not the only sad face here.
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# [01:48] <bsmith> thanks jesup.
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# [01:49] <@ehsan> heh
# [01:49] <@ehsan> nthomas|buildduty: thanks
# [01:50] <dvander> ted, ping
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# [01:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07ce116d5ee8 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 815931 - Move write barrier verifier to its own file (r=terrence)
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# [01:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1edf3b8879cf - Bill McCloskey - Bug 815931 - Use GC auto classes in write barrier verifiers (r=terrence)
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# [02:05] <froydnj> smaug: snow-white?
# [02:06] <@smaug> yup :)
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# [02:06] <@smaug> my silly code name for collector which needs to deal with objects which are whiter than white
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# [02:07] <@smaug> froydnj: sorry :)
# [02:07] <@smaug> English is missing the right word
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# [02:09] <froydnj> heh
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# [02:10] <@smaug> In Finnish there is vitivalkoinen, which is basically "very/all/extremely white"
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# [02:13] <Waldo> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2008/11/19/9121009.aspx
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# [02:18] <nthomas|buildduty> the tbpl log issue is fixed for jobs that finished after 1715 Pacific
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# [02:28] <cpeterson> smaug, how about "ultraviolet"? It may not be technically accurate, but it is fun. :)
# [02:28] <@smaug> cpeterson: we have purple for other things. violet is almost purple :)
# [02:29] <cpeterson> oh yeah
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# [02:34] <@dolske> I would use ultraviolent, myself.
# [02:35] <@smaug> oh, it will be very gentle collector
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# [02:46] * njn hates files that mix 2 and 4 space indents
# [02:47] <@ehsan> throw some windows line endings there too
# [02:47] <njn> smaug: just call it vitivalkoinen, no-one will ever forget that
# [02:47] * njn coughs
# [02:47] <njn> vivid white?
# [02:47] <njn> SnowWhite?
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# [02:48] <seth> CorpsePaintWhite
# [02:48] <@smaug> njn: well, SnowWhite is from that tale
# [02:49] * @smaug blames English.
# [02:49] <@smaug> too limited language
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# [02:50] <@smaug> lossëa might work too
# [02:50] <@smaug> everybody knows Quenya
# [02:51] <@ehsan> what are we trying to name?
# [02:51] <Unfocused> smaug's new pony
# [02:51] <@smaug> I happened to give silly code name, snow-white, to the next version of CC, which deals with objects which are whiter than white
# [02:52] <@smaug> snow-white collector
# [02:52] <@ehsan> haha
# [02:53] <@ehsan> snow-white is technically just as white as, well, white is
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# [02:53] <@smaug> sure
# [02:53] <njn> transparent
# [02:53] <jduell> ehsan: got a sec?
# [02:54] <@ehsan> transparent is technically less white than white is
# [02:54] <@ehsan> jduell: yep
# [02:54] <jduell> ehsan: favicon loader is always in parent process, right?
# [02:54] <@ehsan> jduell: hopefully, yes!
# [02:54] <njn> ehsan: technically, there is nothing whiter than white; give me some poetic license :P
# [02:55] <Callek> white is the absorption of all colors, black is the reflection of all colors, transparant is devoid of all colors
# [02:55] <jduell> ehsan: so I'm writing security checks for B2G necko, and it's causing me to revisit the joy that was bug 741059.
# [02:55] <Callek> err white<->black
# [02:55] <Callek> got them mixed up
# [02:56] <jduell> ehsan: it looks like we can guarantee that under B2G/e10s we always have a valid LoadGroup on child, so I assume I can skip checking for PBoverride
# [02:56] <@ehsan> hmm
# [02:56] <@ehsan> jduell: can you refresh my memory with an mxr link please?
# [02:57] <jduell> ehsan: there's no checks in the code yet, so no mxr to point to?
# [02:57] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [02:57] <@ehsan> so let me read those patches for a min
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# [02:58] <@ehsan> jduell: so you're talking about SerializedLoadContext, right?
# [02:58] <jduell> ehsan: yes, we're doing checks when it's time to convert from SerializedLoadContext -> LoadContext.cpp
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# [02:58] <jduell> and for B2G I can assume I have both a TabParent and a non-null LoadContext.
# [02:59] <jduell> which should basically mean I shouldn't need to check the nsIPBChannel override flag in the serializedLC
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# [03:00] <jduell> ehsan: I guess I'm asking if you know of any code that might run in the child that overrides PB but doesn't have a LoadContext.
# [03:00] <jduell> AFAIK there's isn't any
# [03:01] <@ehsan> jduell: I don't think that there is any currently either
# [03:01] <@ehsan> but are we worried about what we might add in the future?
# [03:02] <jduell> ehsan: well, we can't really do security without the TabParent/LoadGroup, so new stuff will need to comply, hopefully
# [03:03] <@ehsan> ok
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# [03:03] <@ehsan> that sounds sane to me
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# [03:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9eb8b4bd265d - Mark Finkle - Backout 7b516748a65c for test failures
# [03:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a58070f72659 - Mark Finkle - Backout 11fcd37bfb7d, cdf30a34dec9, d5f4626f5b73, e0a0a5b98b95, 944db176184e, 984a10bc4125, 585a7f8fc448, abfc930bc7cd for test failures
# [03:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72b699c67ed1 - Mark Finkle - Backout cd7c2afe0cb8, for test failures
# [03:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6cb490697a27 - Mark Finkle - Backout 87d836ed8e2a, 90ef95622f5e, bf8f4b151716 for test failures
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# [03:53] <mfinkle> any merge sheriffs: i just backed out a bunch of android-only patches that were busting our tests
# [03:53] <mfinkle> but it will likely mean you need to wait for the backout before merging the busted code to m-c
# [03:54] <lsblakk> mfinkle: does that explain why https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Release is looking so red in android tests?
# [03:54] <mfinkle> (as long as my backout itself goes green)
# [03:54] <lsblakk> and am i safe to still gtb?
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# [03:54] <mfinkle> lsblakk, this was inbound only
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# [03:54] <lsblakk> drats
# [03:55] <lsblakk> anyone around who can look at those test fails on Mozilla-Release?
# [03:55] <mfinkle> wget: unable to resolve host address `ftp.mozilla.com'
# [03:55] <lsblakk> oh.
# [03:55] <mfinkle> that's the mozilla-release issue
# [03:56] <lsblakk> cool
# [03:56] <lsblakk> thanks
# [03:56] <mjrosenb> clearly we should hard-code the ip address of ftp.mozilla.com into the scripts :-p
# [03:56] <mfinkle> not sure what's up with it
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# [03:58] <nthomas|buildduty> sorry, that was a snafu
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# [03:59] <lsblakk> fortunately 17.0.1 is desktop only :)
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# [04:04] <lsblakk> nthomas|buildduty: so i'm good to go with that changeset? just an infa glitch?
# [04:04] <lsblakk> infra, even
# [04:05] <nthomas|buildduty> yeah, if you don't care about the state of mobile. I'll run the tests again but idk when that'll be done
# [04:05] <lsblakk> i do not care about the state of mobile for 17.0.1
# [04:05] <lsblakk> on that branch or esr17
# [04:05] <lsblakk> (which does not even run tests)
# [04:05] <lsblakk> (for mobile)
# [04:06] <nthomas|buildduty> the other .com bustage was a try run, so any other issues are legit
# [04:06] <lsblakk> any investigation, should the tests run again fail, can be done concurrently with release builds
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# [04:07] <nthomas|buildduty> ok. you want 17.0.1 started asap then ?
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# [04:08] <lsblakk> if that's something you can take on, being buildduty and all
# [04:08] <lsblakk> again, without PR neeeding an early morning, set time, releasing this before EOD on Friday is fine with me
# [04:08] <nthomas|buildduty> the preference is to wait until the EDT am on our side
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# [04:09] <nthomas|buildduty> EST even
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# [04:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/822a1cfc322d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4f7114a9d050 (bug 812119) for test failures.
# [04:11] <lsblakk> nthomas|buildduty: that is fine
# [04:11] <nthomas|buildduty> great, thanks
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# [04:12] <RyanVM> mfinkle: funny story
# [04:12] <RyanVM> mfinkle
# [04:12] <RyanVM> mfinkle: your backout is red
# [04:13] <mfinkle> why am i not surprised
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# [04:13] <mfinkle> oh! clobber!
# [04:15] <RyanVM> mfinkle: need me to?
# [04:15] <mfinkle> RyanVM, i think i got it
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# [04:15] <RyanVM> ok
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# [04:21] <Waldo> I would say that sounds peaceful, except
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# [04:22] <markh> heycam: ++ on the reftest feature! Now I just need you to get as annoyed with the mochi harness so we get that feature there too ;)
# [04:22] <heycam> markh, thanks :)
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# [04:24] <hub> ok inbound is seriously busted
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# [04:27] <hub> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816378
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# [04:29] <Waldo> hub: does backing out the patch mentioned in bug 816368 fix it?
# [04:29] * Waldo is too busy to back out a patch right now, but he wouldn't hesitate to do so if he had time
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# [04:32] <hub> Waldo: let me check
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# [04:36] <nthomas|buildduty> do we have anything in mochitest that can capture a screenshot ?
# [04:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a74eab6c64a7 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 804754 - Add UAProfile url into HTTP request header. r=vyang
# [04:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10b4034b8b16 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 815020 -Remove implicit_jscontext in function receiveWapPush .r=vyang
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# [04:42] <hub> Waldo: it will take a bit to build, but if it actually works, I'll put a mention in my bug
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# [04:48] <markh> anyone on windows getting build error on m-c "LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'soundtouch.res'", or have any clues as to where I might look?
# [04:48] <RyanVM> clobber
# [04:48] <markh> yeah, did that
# [04:48] <RyanVM> hmm
# [04:49] <RyanVM> that should have done it
# [04:49] <markh> well I just removed the obj dir - that's close enough, right?
# [04:49] <RyanVM> yeah
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# [04:51] <cabanier> RyanVM: is it normal that the build is still going?
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# [04:53] <hub> Waldo: yep, that's it
# [04:53] <Waldo> hub: suspected as much; that sort of bustage report seems likely to bite a lot of people
# [04:54] <Waldo> hub: you have time to push a backout? I'm pretty sure we don't want a nightly going out with it
# [04:54] <hub> I can do it now on inbound
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# [04:55] <hub> a=bustage ?
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# [04:57] <Waldo> hub: yup
# [04:57] <Waldo> or r=
# [04:57] <Waldo> or whatever
# [04:57] <hub> a=bustage,Waldo :-)
# [04:57] <Waldo> there's no r= hook, so every r=bustage or whatever is technically unnecessary :-)
# [04:57] <Waldo> just nice to explain the why
# [04:58] <Waldo> in this case you can even bug-tag it and all
# [04:58] <hub> summary: Bug 816378 - Backout 5158d648702e (Bug 813773). a=bustage,Waldo
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# [04:59] <Waldo> it'll do :-)
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# [05:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b4e13b0d1e4 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 816378 - Backout 5158d648702e (Bug 813773). a=bustage,Waldo
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# [05:10] <mfinkle> ok, looks like the clobber fixed my backouts
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# [05:18] <@ehsan> mconley: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815941#c1
# [05:18] <@ehsan> mconley: lots of bloot && sweat has gone into this :)
# [05:18] <mconley> ehsan: you're a hero
# [05:18] <mconley> ehsan: songs will be written
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# [05:20] <@ehsan> hehe
# [05:20] <@ehsan> mconley: don't think I'll work more on this tonight... so no rush for the feedback
# [05:20] <@ehsan> but I'm quite puzzled by the js that I wrote ;)
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# [05:20] <mconley> ehsan: I'll give it a spin tomorrow
# [05:21] <@ehsan> cool
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# [05:44] <rillian> jcranmer|away: https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js ?
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# [07:45] <@dolske> "Firefox uses Gecko - a "home made" Mozilla rendering engine. Both Safari and Chrome use Webkit."
# [07:46] <@dolske> O_o
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# [07:46] <fabrice> this is because many mozilla devs wfh
# [07:47] <@dolske> haha. yeah, let's go with that.
# [07:47] <Mook> and yep, Webkit isn't quite home-made, it's KHTML :p
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# [07:52] <Callek> Webkit KHTML? huh ... and all this time I thought it was an offshoot of IE's trident
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# [07:53] <gw280> dolske: that's wonderful
# [07:53] <Callek> err wrong codename to make that joke good
# [07:53] <Callek> :(
# [07:53] <gw280> dolske: we're the homemade guys
# [07:53] <gw280> :D
# [07:53] * Callek was thinking of the IE for OS9
# [07:53] <gw280> I'm loving this post on dev-planning
# [07:54] <gw280> "no 32 bit code running meant extra cpu cycles to go around"
# [07:54] <Callek> gw280: yea, I resisted the urge to troll that post
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# [07:54] <gw280> Callek: he may well be trolling us
# [07:55] <Callek> gw280: I honestly think he believes what he says
# [07:55] <gw280> that could just mean he's a skilled troll :)
# [07:55] <Callek> hahha
# [07:56] <gw280> in any case; I get the impression that a lot of these people are basically thinking to themselves "but but but 64 is twice 32, therefore it /must/ be better! faster power!!!"
# [07:56] <Callek> but seriously, people with little knowledge but a lot of confidence are more dangerous to family (like his grandmother) than those who legitimately know the consequences of 64 bit and want it
# [07:56] <Callek> yea basically
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# [07:56] <Callek> "My computer is 64 bit, therefore its faster than the 32 bit computers, even if it CAN run 32 bit, it must work BETTER with the 64 bit"
# [07:57] <gw280> at the end of the day there's only one legitimate usecase for 64-bit, and that's to cater to the power users who have eleventy billion tabs open and want everything cached in RAM on their 128GB machines
# [07:57] <gw280> and that isn't a particularly important usecase for us to dedicate resources to, imho
# [07:57] <Callek> gw280: I'm a user who does frequently get OOM's using 32 bit Firefox, where I'd benefit from 64 bit being supported
# [07:57] <gw280> Callek: ah
# [07:57] <gw280> I don't use windows, so I have no idea :P
# [07:58] <Callek> gw280: of course, I don't disagree *at all* with the reasons behind the choice.
# [07:58] <Callek> and by frequently I mean 1 to 2 times a month on average
# [07:58] <gw280> I think we could have handled the PR better though
# [07:58] <Callek> with occassional outliers where it could be 20-50 times in a single week
# [07:58] <Callek> I think we didn't actually expect news to care, so we didn't plan for a PR case
# [07:59] <gw280> right, but we should have planned for one, once it started hitting literally every tech blog
# [07:59] <Callek> gw280: of course, in defense of Firefox devs, the times where its really high is when I need to have multiple TBPL tabs open, multiple MXR tabs open, bug lists and at least 3 TBPL full logs open
# [07:59] <Callek> and sometimes large hgweb diffs
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# [07:59] <gw280> my favourite was ars technica arguing that mozilla not supporting 64-bit was a security problem
# [07:59] <gw280> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/64-bit-firefox-for-windows-should-be-prioritized-not-suspended/
# [08:00] <gw280> Callek: so really what we need more than 32-bit is to handle OOM conditions more gracefully instead of just crash
# [08:00] <gw280> Callek: er, more than 64-bit
# [08:01] <Callek> gw280: really I'd love love love if we had a supported win64 version, even if it meant slightly slower JSeng
# [08:02] <Callek> but I don't want to run a version that won't help further Mozilla, and I don't think the benefits of devoting resources to it at this time are high enough to ask for it
# [08:02] <gw280> Callek: I don't think anyone's disputing that we should have one in ideal circumstances :)
# [08:02] <gw280> I should blog my thoughts on it
# [08:02] <Callek> like I said, I do *fully* agree with ben, even though I know I'm one of the win users who would *legitimately* benefit from it
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# [08:03] <gw280> "Mozilla says: 'Fuck 64-bit! We're going straight to 128-bit!'"
# [08:03] <Callek> "....I wanted to run Firefox on my N64, baaaaaah"
# [08:03] <gw280> hehe
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# [08:04] <@dolske> gw280: fix the register bloat!
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# [08:04] <gw280> Callek: I agree with your assessment though that the worse people are the ones who know a little bit but not enough to have any sort of reasoned opinion on the subject, but are incredibly confident that they are
# [08:04] <gw280> (ie - 99% of the internet)
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# [08:05] <gw280> dolske: registers are there to be eaten.
# [08:05] <gw280> dolske: if you don't take them, someone else will. MARK YOUR TERRITORY.
# [08:06] <Callek> gw280: the fact of life, the most confident people are usually the ones with the least knowledge
# [08:06] <gw280> truth.
# [08:07] <gw280> wait, shit, I'm confident
# [08:07] <gw280> noooooooo
# [08:07] <Callek> hahahaha
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# [08:07] <gw280> I suppose I should go to bed
# [08:07] * Callek too.
# [08:07] <gw280> it's 2am and discussing trolls isn't a sensible use of my time
# [08:07] <Callek> I won't, but I should
# [08:08] <gw280> :D
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# [08:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82837149f001 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 816357: use 'default-preference' rather than line-by-line pref() annotations in flexbox reftest.list file. r=heycam
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# [08:33] <@roc> hmm, but what?
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# [08:36] <@dbaron> pick randomly :-)
# [08:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66eaee2d8885 - Robert O'Callahan - Backout 7aceff7124d9 (bug 815591) for Mac test failures
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# [09:44] <@roc> phew, I picked the correct patch to back out
# [09:44] <glazou> bonjour
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# [10:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a36d55b13d76 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 816104 - Assert define/defineBox are not used with call instructions. r=dvander
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# [10:25] <smontagu> Ms2ger: ping
# [10:25] <Ms2ger> Yes?
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# [10:25] <smontagu> i have a problem with walking the DOM
# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Shoot
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# [10:26] <smontagu> GetNextNode on an nsHTMLInputElement doesn't get the kids
# [10:26] <smontagu> I expected it to return the anonymous div and the text nodes
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Ah, no
# [10:27] <Ms2ger> GetNextNode only does real nodes
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# [10:27] <smontagu> so what do I need?
# [10:27] <Ms2ger> Looking
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# [10:28] <glazou> smontagu: document.getAnonymousElementByAttribute
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> nsIContent::GetChildren?
# [10:28] <glazou> ah wait that could be for xul only
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# [10:30] <smontagu> I don't specifically want the child, I want the "next" node
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# [10:30] <smontagu> having set auto direction by walking up, I need to get back to the same place by walking down
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# [10:35] <Ms2ger> Ask bz? :)
# [10:35] <smontagu> bz isn't called bz_sleep, but at this hour he likely is :)
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# [10:37] <smontagu> or alternatively, I could not go from an anonymous child to its parent when doing GetParent
# [10:37] * smontagu checks the spec, that might be more correct anyway
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# [10:43] <smontagu> <div dir="auto"><textarea>RTL TEXT</textarea>ltr text</div>
# [10:44] <smontagu> <div dir="auto"><input value="RTL TEXT">ltr text</div>
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# [10:46] <smontagu> IIUC, the first div is ltr and the second is rtl
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# [10:47] <Ms2ger> File a bug and tell Hixie to prioritize :)
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# [10:50] <smontagu> Ms2ger: so if it works out that I want GetElementParent not to go past an anonymous child, do you know how to do *that*?
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# [10:50] <Ms2ger> nsIContent::IsRootOfAnonymousSubtree or whatever it's called?
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# [11:48] <glazou> found a nice CSS transform bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816458
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# [12:02] <jre> seems that something broke the Windows non-pymake build:
# [12:02] <jre> make -j8 -C /c/projects/mozilla/src/obj-i686-pc-mingw32
# [12:02] <jre> make[2]: Entering directory `/c/projects/mozilla/src/obj-i686-pc-mingw32'
# [12:02] <jre> /c/projects/mozilla/src/browser/build.mk:34: *** You are using GNU make to build
# [12:02] <jre> Firefox with -jN on Windows. This will randomly deadlock. To compile a parallel
# [12:02] <jre> build on Windows run "python -OO build/pymake/make.py -f client.mk build". See
# [12:02] <jre> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/pymake for more details.. Stop.
# [12:02] <jre> And no, I don't set -j8 in my .mozconfig
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# [12:11] <edmorley> jre: that would be gps' patch, I'll file
# [12:11] <edmorley> jre: out of curiosity, why not pyamke?
# [12:11] <edmorley> or pymake for that matter :-)
# [12:11] <glandium> jre: set -j1 in your mozconfig
# [12:11] <jre> edmorley: didn't work with other scripts I have, and I didn't have time yet to adapt these
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# [12:12] <edmorley> jre: the build times are very much worse without pymake, I would strongly recommend switching fwiw
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# [12:13] <jre> edmorley: I know I know; I'm not building a lot though
# [12:13] <edmorley> ok :-)
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# [12:13] <jre> gladium: that seems to help, thanks
# [12:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c72d38e7a212 - Ed Morley - Backout 67e95e421678 (bug 814195) for Windows debug jsreftest failures on a CLOSED TREE
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# [12:25] <glazou> hmmm I installed a new mac (mountain lion) box for builds and my build fails in jscompartment.c with an error in jsval.h
# [12:26] <glazou> jscomprtment.cpp that is
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# [12:26] <glazou> has anyone seen this in the past?
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# [12:37] <glazou> ah fixed it
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# [12:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/77e1ac74d715 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 796452. Add mozpasspointerevents attribute for IFRAMEs in chrome windows. r=mats a=blocking-basecamp
# [12:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2da3c235a607 - Chris Jones - Bug 814778: Disable font inflation for the b2g master process. r=dbaron a=blocking-basecamp
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# [13:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78c67357c751 - Chris Lord - Bug 814437 - Fix checkerboard measurement when using a critical displayport. r=bgirard
# [13:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f039a331337f - Chris Lord - Bug 814437 - Record checkerboarding over time instead of per frame. r=kats
# [13:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67720d8757c8 - Chris Lord - Bug 814437 - Count low precision rendering 0.5x towards checkerboarding. r=bgirard
# [13:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/08ffe17f6cbf - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 2da3c235a607 (bug 814778) a=pushed-without-approval
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# [13:09] <NeilAway> msys doesn't have du, any suggestions as to an easy way to add up the sizes of a bunch of files?
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# [13:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2175d0f4770 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 816046 - Intermittent "Assertion failure: key.kind != CrossCompartmentKey::StringWrapper r=billm
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# [13:14] <edmorley> jonco++
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# [13:15] <jfkthame> is self-serve cancel of try jobs not working at the moment? it seems to have ignored my cancellation requests
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# [13:15] <edmorley> jfkthame: which platform?
# [13:15] <jfkthame> all
# [13:16] <edmorley> jfkthame: (windows/android has issues cancelling depending on buildstep)
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# [13:16] <edmorley> it will often take 5+ mins for the cancellations to show, has it been longer than that?
# [13:17] <jfkthame> edmorley: i cancelled d182fb98337b and 2323e587fdc8 a long time ago now (half hour, maybe?)
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# [13:17] <edmorley> It is plausible there is an issue with self-serve fwiw
# [13:17] <edmorley> ph
# [13:17] <edmorley> oh
# [13:17] <jfkthame> but they still seem to be starting more jobs
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# [13:18] <edmorley> jfkthame: if the build completed between the cancellation request and it taking effect, then the test jobs it spawns won't get cancelled perhaps
# [13:18] <jfkthame> i can tell my cancel requests registered at some level because tbpl no longer shows the red (x) next to them
# [13:18] <edmorley> there is bug 666756 filed to try and stop later jobs
# [13:19] <edmorley> jfkthame: tbpl doesn't adjust whether to show the cancel button based on that
# [13:19] <jfkthame> oh, how does it decide?
# [13:20] <edmorley> for try, the cancel-all should always be shown
# [13:20] <edmorley> and the cancel individually shown if status != completed
# [13:20] <jfkthame> it's not showing on those two jobs, but it shows on my other ones
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# [13:20] <jfkthame> ah, i guess i can try cancelling everything individually
# [13:20] <edmorley> jfkthame: I believe the UI remembers a cancel-all was done until page refresh
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# [13:21] <edmorley> jfkthame: but it doesn't save the state anywhere, or ask self-serve if it tried to cancel
# [13:21] <jfkthame> ok - force-reload gave me back the cancel-all buttons, so i'll try them again
# [13:22] <edmorley> jfkthame: if those don't work, let me know and I'll file a bug :-)
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# [13:22] <jfkthame> i see there are plenty of open bugs on self-serve already
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# [13:23] <edmorley> yeah :-)
# [13:23] <edmorley> :-( even
# [13:23] <jfkthame> yeah
# [13:23] <jfkthame> some of them are things i _really_ want
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# [13:23] <edmorley> there are more that don't have the correct whiteboard string
# [13:23] <edmorley> we should really give it it's own component
# [13:24] <edmorley> same with trychooser
# [13:24] <jfkthame> file a bug! ;)
# [13:24] <edmorley> I believe I've mentioned it before and #build would rather not create too many too-small components within relgn
# [13:25] <edmorley> but maybe we could put it under webtools
# [13:25] <edmorley> s/relgn/releng/
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# [13:28] <jfkthame> edmorley: ah, i finally see builds turning purple - apparently the repeated cancel-all had an effect in the end - thanks
# [13:28] <edmorley> np, didn't do much :-)
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# [13:29] <edmorley> fwiw it's not as reliable (or clear) as it should be
# [13:29] <jfkthame> yeah, it really does seem like it ignored my first round of cancellation, and just kept burning cycles
# [13:30] <edmorley> given that many people are trying to be responsible with their Try usage, we should at least make sure we stop the runs as quickly (and consistently) as possible
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# [13:47] <henk> hi, I need to build a firefox package. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Build_and_Install says not to run 'make install' but 'make package'. 1. Is there an explanation anywhere why not to run 'make install'? 2. How do I find the definitions for the targets "package" and "install"?
# [13:48] <@ted> "make package" builds you a redistributable package, like what you'd find on our FTP server
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# [13:48] <@ted> "make install" takes the contents of that and tries to install it on your system
# [13:48] <@ted> it maybe does something useful on linux, but not likely elsewhere
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# [13:49] <henk> ted: So if my packaging system expects the software to be installed to $PREFIX and such, it’s ok to use 'make install'?
# [13:49] <edmorley> jfkthame: filed bug 816477 for proposing breaking the self-serve bugs out
# [13:49] <@ted> henk: possibly, but we don't maintain "make install" very well, so YMMV
# [13:49] <josh> are we still recommending that we use PR_ntoh* or PR_hton* (NSPR), or something else?
# [13:50] <jfkthame> edmorley: sounds good to me
# [13:51] <henk> ted: So I should actually use 'make package' and create the package from the resulting tarball? If so, that gets me back to 2.: I’d like to take a look at the package target but don’t know how to find it.
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# [13:51] <@ted> henk: i can point you at the package target but i can't promise you'll like it :)
# [13:52] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk#875
# [13:52] <henk> ted: I doubt it will hurt much more than finding the source in the first place already did ;)
# [13:53] <@ted> install is right below that
# [13:53] <henk> ted: Perfect, thank you very much!
# [13:53] <@ted> packager.mk is a wretched hive of scum and villany
# [13:53] <@ted> np
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# [13:55] <henk> ted: uhm, make-package? How does "make package" get to calling the target "make-package" instead of the target "package"?
# [13:56] <Enn> smaug: do you know why loadFrameScript might cause the the same script to be loaded twice?
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# [14:00] <glandium> henk: check browser/installer/Makefile.in
# [14:02] <henk> glandium: I don’t see a package target there either. What am I missing?
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# [14:03] <glandium> henk: ah, yeah, subtle thing, check browser/build.mk (which is included from the main Makefile.in)
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# [14:04] <glazou_lunch> /nick glazou
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# [14:04] <henk> glazou: Ah, thank you!
# [14:04] <glazou> that was glandium, right
# [14:05] <@ted> henk: it's complicated, but yeah
# [14:05] <@smaug> Enn: do you call it twice ?
# [14:05] <Enn> no
# [14:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcd9afd94fe7 - Chris Lord - Bug 814864 - Only draw low precision tiles when necessary. r=kats
# [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b25eef2a982b - Chris Lord - Bug 814864 - Reconcile frame resolution difference in layer rendering. r=bgirard
# [14:06] <@smaug> Enn: and you're sure the same script is loaded twice?
# [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8df524ad8193 - Chris Lord - Bug 814864 - Respect layers.low-precision-buffer in Fennec browser.js. r=kats
# [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a281a71fc4e6 - Chris Lord - Bug 814864 - Abort old, stale, low precision updates. r=kats
# [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13ee7ebc101a - Chris Lord - Bug 814864 - Do high precision updates before low precision updates. r=bgirard
# [14:06] <henk> glazou: sorry
# [14:06] <henk> glandium: Thank you!
# [14:07] <glandium> np
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# [14:07] <Enn> smaug: I add dump() calls around the call to loadFrameScript, which are called once, in-between the script that I am loading gets executed twice
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# [14:08] <@smaug> Enn: are you sure dumps are coming from the same tabchildglobal ?
# [14:09] <@smaug> Enn: how do you call loadFrameScript ?
# [14:09] <@smaug> on which object do you call it?
# [14:09] <Enn> smaug: I don't know, but nsFrameMessageManager::mContext refers to browser.xul
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# [14:10] <@smaug> that is not very interesting
# [14:10] <Enn> actually debugging suggests loadframescript is called recursively or in some manner four times
# [14:10] <Enn> but the script loads twice
# [14:11] <@smaug> Enn: so if you call loadFrameScript for example in the global message manager, the script gets executed once in all the tabs in all the windows
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# [14:11] <Enn> smaug: does it also get called for every child frame?
# [14:11] <@smaug> no
# [14:11] <@smaug> There is TabchildGlobal per tab
# [14:12] <Enn> this is in a mochitest and I only have one tab open
# [14:12] <@smaug> Enn: in dump() could you perhaps print content.document.documentURI
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# [14:15] <KaiRo> henk: btw, "make package" should end up putting the package contents into a dist/firefox directory, and packages it up from there - so in packaging scripts, you could just use that directory
# [14:16] <henk> KaiRo: Sounds like exactly what I need :) I’ll try that, thanks a lot!
# [14:16] <Enn> smaug: content is null. The call to loadFrameScript is in a jsm file
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# [14:17] <Enn> smaug: maybe this should be using a different message manager?
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# [14:18] <@smaug> Enn: I mean in the script you're about to load dump(content.document.documentURI);
# [14:18] <@smaug> Enn: in jsm, how do you call loadFrameScript?
# [14:18] <@smaug> (sounds like global mm)
# [14:19] <Enn> it is
# [14:20] <Enn> let messageManager = Cc["@mozilla.org/globalmessagemanager;1"].
# [14:20] <Enn> getService(Ci.nsIMessageBroadcaster);
# [14:20] <Enn> messageManager.loadFrameScript("chrome://satchel/content/formSubmitListener.js", true);
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# [14:22] <Enn> smaug: content.document.documentURI is about:blank
# [14:22] <@smaug> ok, so that means that after the call every tabchildglobal will execute chrome://satchel/content/formSubmitListener.js"
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# [14:22] <@smaug> including all the new tabs
# [14:22] <@smaug> perhaps that is what you want
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# [14:23] <Enn> smaug: well this code is exactly the same as was before just in a different file
# [14:24] <@smaug> Enn: and you get that dump several times?
# [14:24] <Enn> yes, twice
# [14:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2425d2241d28 - Henrik Skupin - Bug 816463 - Update webrtc crashtest manifest to use new default-preferences feature. r=jesup
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# [14:24] <@smaug> assuming you're in debug build, could you dump(this)
# [14:25] <@smaug> to see if it is actually the same tabchildglobal
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# [14:30] <Enn> smaug: different ContentFrameMessageManager objects
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# [14:31] <@smaug> so, you have two tabs open :)
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# [14:31] <@smaug> or things which are like tabs
# [14:31] <@smaug> do we keep some tab hidden by default?
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# [14:32] <@smaug> or does the social thing have tab like thing
# [14:33] <@smaug> Enn: anyhow, sounds like everything is working the way it should
# [14:33] <Enn> hmm. ok
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# [14:57] <@smaug> you're using opt build but you used to use debug build ? :)
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# [15:21] <jfkthame> i don't mean the build, i mean the actual test jobs - crash log reports "CPU: arm" … "0 CPUs"
# [15:21] <edmorley> oh
# [15:21] <jfkthame> obviously, i don't believe it :)
# [15:21] <edmorley> :-)
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# [15:49] <glazou> sheppy: http://is.gd/k7TPlC
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# [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce5c7eba7797 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 815216 - Upgrade clang to 168596 in the 3.2 branch. r=rail.
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# [15:53] <sheppy> glazou: woot :)
# [15:53] <glazou> sheppy: :-) it's only a beginning
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# [16:02] <froydnj> whoa, what is wrong with bugzilla
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# [16:02] <glob> froydnj, can you be more specific?
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# [16:09] <edmorley> dholbert: ping
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# [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5369e76e0ffb - Ed Morley - Backout 82837149f001 (bug 816357) for frequent flexbox reftest failures on linux
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# [16:20] <froydnj> glob: oh. nm, looks like google was directing to a weird url: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi/show_bug.cgi?id=493178
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# [16:23] <edmorley> froydnj: ha that's weird
# [16:23] <edmorley> (the resultant page returned)
# [16:23] <edmorley> oh relative stylesheets I guess
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# [16:24] <dholbert> edmorley, pong
# [16:24] <edmorley> dholbert: hi :-)
# [16:24] <edmorley> dholbert: sorry the ping was about bug 816357, but I've since backed out and commented in the bug
# [16:25] <@ted> bsmedberg: who moderates dev.builds, you?
# [16:26] <dholbert> edmorley, gotcha, thanks
# [16:27] <dholbert> hmm, I would be very surprised if that were the cause, given "max difference: 1, number of differing pixels: 2"
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# [16:27] <edmorley> dholbert: I must admit I didn't look at the reftest analyser, I was going by the diffs
# [16:27] <dholbert> the only way that patch should be able to break stuff is "flexbox wasn't enabled, so the testcase renders _completely_ wrong"
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# [16:27] <@bsmedberg> ted: I believe so
# [16:27] <edmorley> and the range
# [16:27] <edmorley> ok
# [16:27] <dholbert> np, I'll take a look
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# [16:28] <@ted> bsmedberg: ok, didn't realize it was moderated at all
# [16:28] <edmorley> dholbert: was just eager to get the tree back to a reasonable state (having earlier hounded out unrealted jsreftest bustage that had been in there 23 hours) :-)
# [16:29] <dholbert> edmorley, totally understandable :)
# [16:29] <@bsmedberg> ted: yeah, I moderate .platform, .planning, .builds, .embedding, .tech.plugins, and .tech.xbl
# [16:29] <@bsmedberg> oh, and .shumway
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# [16:29] <dholbert> edmorley, just letting you know that (depending on how many other things have been backed out) the randomorange may still be there.
# [16:29] <edmorley> dholbert: on the plus side, we're down from 3000 pending jobs this morning to 1900 now (albeit ready for US to wake up)
# [16:29] <dholbert> woot!
# [16:29] <edmorley> dholbert: true :_)
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# [16:30] <@ted> bsmedberg: how do you get any work done?
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# [16:36] <@bsmedberg> ted: I just go through the queue once a day
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# [16:36] <@bsmedberg> it actually doesn't take much time
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# [16:38] <vlad> did that startupcrash backout (bug 816378) make it into today's nightlies?
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# [16:39] <@bsmedberg> jlebar|away: what platforms is DMD targeting which don't have ordered_map ?
# [16:40] <gregglind> is there a way to treat a jar file like a uri resolvable file system?
# [16:40] <@bsmedberg> jar:URIto.jar!/path/inside/jar.html
# [16:40] <gregglind> wow, that is easy :)
# [16:40] <gregglind> thanks!
# [16:40] <@bsmedberg> mozilla-only, though ;-)
# [16:41] <gregglind> oh yes, in fx.
# [16:41] <nemo> Fennec still run on Android 4.0?
# [16:41] <vlad> like does it still run, or does it require 4.0 only?
# [16:41] <vlad> it still runs and does not require 4.0
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# [16:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/714c52485f59 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 814264 - Restore the ability to call openUILink without an event parameter.
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# [16:44] <gregglind> bsmedberg, there a ref for that jar thing? I am having trouble with the fiddly bits (probably wrong number and placement of '/'s :)
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# [16:50] <@bsmedberg> gregglind: note https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Security_and_the_jar_protocol
# [16:50] <@bsmedberg> it has to be served as "application/java-archive"
# [16:50] <gregglind> thanks!
# [16:50] <gregglind> aha. Does that happen when you hit it from the urlbar?
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# [16:55] <gregglind> if I do file:///to/the/file.jar I get the download notification box. I think try jar:// which goes to google search;
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# [16:56] <@ted> BenWa: hey, what does the "transaction FPS" in layermanagerOGL actually measure?
# [16:56] <glandium> bsmedberg, jlebar|away: so it does look like unordered_map is available on gcc 4.4, clang and MSVC 2010. However, we're not necessarily building with -std=gnu++0x on gcc 4.4 or clang on linux, thanks to bugs in headers
# [16:56] <@ted> (it seems to be always zero on my machines)
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# [16:56] <nemo> vlad: oh. cool. I was looking at an absurdly cheap android tablet using 4.0 and it showed Firefox on the screen
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# [16:57] <nemo> vlad: I kinda found this hard to believe :) http://www.freebirdtablets.com/ (for the record there are a ton of sub $100 tablets on froogle.com - some cheaper than that)
# [16:57] <@ted> given that we run on crappy armv6 hardware running android 2.2 now
# [16:57] <vlad> $100 tablets are pretty common these days
# [16:57] <@ted> i don't think running on a cheap ICS tablet is unbelievable
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# [16:57] <vlad> yeah
# [16:57] <gcp> you want the one with the Cortex A8, though
# [16:58] <@ted> the black friday ads had crap $60 ICS tablets all over them
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# [16:58] <vlad> I'm surprised that they're still running 4.0 though
# [16:58] <@ted> i'm sure they're all garbage
# [16:58] <vlad> 4.1 and especially 4.2 have a ton of perf improvements
# [16:58] <@ted> vlad: i'm actually shocked they're running ICS
# [16:58] <nemo> vlad: sub-100 (like. http://www.google.com/shopping/product/14697845401946148881 - $59 )
# [16:58] <vlad> ted: yeah, a lot of the earlier ones were all gb/froyo
# [16:58] <@ted> given how horrible they probably are it wouldn't have shocked me if they were shipping 2.3
# [16:58] <nemo> ted: yeah. there are a bunch of these A8 ones and I'm like... how did they get it to function...
# [16:58] <nemo> (with ICS)
# [16:58] <nemo> it doesn't exactly run that great on my A9 tablet
# [16:58] <@ted> like vlad said, ICS and JB actually did a lot of perf work
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# [16:59] <@ted> ICS has more hw accel for graphics, so that probably helps
# [16:59] <BenWa> ted: Link? transaction is most likely how often update are coming in, the one is is likely interpolating animations and scrolling
# [16:59] <nemo> heh. you think these tablets have decent ffx cards? :)
# [16:59] <nemo> gfx
# [16:59] <glandium> ted: the perf improvements from ICS to JB are mostly unnoticeable on old hardware such as the nexus s
# [16:59] <@ted> nemo: anything is better than doing it all on the slow CPU
# [17:00] <glandium> my reaction was "JB is supposed to be snappy? really?"
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# [17:00] <@ted> BenWa: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/layers/opengl/LayerManagerOGL.cpp#191
# [17:00] <vlad> glandium: a friend with a nexus s had that same reaction
# [17:00] <BenWa> glandium: Yes, JB is terrible on Nexus S
# [17:00] <vlad> there's something weird there in the JB port
# [17:00] <BenWa> JB was aimed at the Galaxy Nexus
# [17:00] <glandium> BenWa: not terrible, it's not any worse than ICS
# [17:00] <vlad> I also suspect they screwed it up
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# [17:01] <glandium> BenWa: it felt it was aimes at the nexus 7
# [17:01] <glandium> aimed
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# [17:01] <BenWa> Right, the google devices. It seems like it doesn't work as well else where
# [17:01] <glandium> BenWa: the nexus s is a google device
# [17:01] <glandium> which still doesn't have 4.2, btw
# [17:01] <BenWa> ahh right, nevermind then
# [17:02] <glandium> and the asus transformer is stuck on 4.0... sadface
# [17:02] <@ted> kinda sad that even google devices don't get imediate updates :-/
# [17:03] <glandium> ted: i'm starting to wonder if the nexus s will ever get an official update
# [17:03] <hub> glandium: no. it is stuck on 4.1
# [17:03] <hub> glandium: Google announced it was EOL
# [17:04] <hub> like they did with Nexus One and ICS
# [17:04] <hub> 22 month. that's the shelf life of a Nexus
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# [17:05] <nemo> ted: well. I know poor firefox struggles on my tablet, and it is supposed to have a decent-ish amount of gfx mem. constantly seeing black squares and other such things in tabs.
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# [17:06] <glandium> hub: where did you see an EOL announcement?
# [17:06] <nemo> ted: I kinda figure ICS and Firefox are fighting back and forth for vid mem, but just a WAG
# [17:06] <@ted> nemo: beats me
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# [17:06] <@ted> hub: that's depressing
# [17:06] <@ted> that's really the best they can do?
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# [17:07] <hub> glandium: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA/3cotWkQ-20wJ
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# [17:07] <hub> ted: don't get me started. I noted that the 3GS was older than the Nexus One and still got newer OS. That was when they released ICS.
# [17:08] <glandium> hub: that just tells there's currently no support in the AOSP repository for nexus s and xoom. nothing else
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# [17:08] <hub> glandium: ah. well. Because Google will NOT admit it
# [17:08] <hub> glandium: prove me wrong :-)
# [17:08] <gcp> it took them ages to get 4.0 on the nexus s officially anyway
# [17:09] <@ted> heh
# [17:09] <hub> gcp: and some variant of the Galaxy Nexus as well
# [17:09] <@ted> no nexus 4 in AOSP either
# [17:09] <@ted> weird
# [17:09] <hub> (variant by crippled OS, nothing else)
# [17:09] <@ted> "open source. mostly. when we feel like it."
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# [17:09] <hub> ted: it seems that Nexus 4 support is coming but yeah. Exactly my thinking
# [17:09] <hub> we all remember Honeycomb
# [17:09] <hub> also no support for Nexus 7 HSPA
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# [17:10] <glandium> hub: honeycomb didn't even have a source release
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# [17:11] <hub> glandium: exactly
# [17:11] <hub> <ted> "open source. mostly. when we feel like it." <- I was refering to that
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# [17:23] <@bz> Thread 23 (crashed)
# [17:23] <@bz> 0 crashinjectdll.dll!CrashingThread(void *) [crashinjectdll.cpp:9498df71b94c : 17 + 0x0]
# [17:23] <@bz> What is that, exactly?
# [17:24] <@bsmedberg> An error occurred during a connection to lists.mozilla.org.
# [17:24] <@bsmedberg> Peer reports failure of signature verification or key exchange.
# [17:24] <@bsmedberg> (Error code: ssl_error_decrypt_error_alert)
# [17:24] <@bsmedberg> hrm...
# [17:25] <@bsmedberg> bz: that's where we kill off a process on purpose
# [17:25] <@bsmedberg> usually because it hasn't responded in a reasonable amount of time
# [17:25] <@bz> bsmedberg: Is that something I would expect to see during jsreftest if stuff is being slow, perhaps?
# [17:25] <@bsmedberg> very slow, yes
# [17:25] <@bz> bsmedberg: ok, thanks
# [17:25] <@bsmedberg> check the main thread activity
# [17:26] <@bz> GC
# [17:26] <@bz> various stages of, but always GC
# [17:26] <@bsmedberg> can anyone else get to https://lists.mozilla.org/ ?
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# [17:27] <gfritzsche> yes
# [17:27] <derf> bz: Does our GC handle Blobs fundamentally differently than, say, ArrayBuffers?
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# [17:28] <@bz> derf: yes
# [17:28] <derf> bz: In what way?
# [17:28] <@khuey> the GC knows about the backing store for array buffers
# [17:28] <@khuey> it doesn't for blobs
# [17:28] <@bz> derf: from the GC point of view, a Blob is just a normal object
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# [17:29] <derf> khuey: This is where I expose my complete ignorance. What does that mean?
# [17:29] <@bz> derf: with a finalizer
# [17:29] <@bz> derf: an array buffer, not sure
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# [17:29] <@bz> derf: basically, for an array buffer all the memory involved is internal to the JS engine
# [17:29] <derf> bz: What does the finalizer do?
# [17:29] <@bz> derf: but for a blob it has to call into Gecko to free stuff
# [17:29] <@bz> derf: NS_RELEASE the nsIDOMBlob
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# [17:30] <derf> bz: Ah, okay.
# [17:30] <@bz> derf: and possibly tell it the object went away
# [17:30] <derf> But I mean... the _lifetime_ of the object is not really any different, right?
# [17:30] <@bz> oh, yeah
# [17:30] <@bz> shouldn't be
# [17:30] <derf> Okay.
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# [17:31] <dholbert> bz++ for fixing all that nsTArray copying
# [17:31] <dholbert> (yikes)
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# [17:33] <derf> bz, khuey: Thanks, I think that told me what I needed to know.
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# [17:34] <froydnj> jdm: ping
# [17:34] <jdm> froydnj: sup
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# [17:35] <froydnj> jdm: I am seeing some failures in pb tests with my patches for bug 715376: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b335ec13da76&jobname=Rev3%20Fedora%2012x64%20try%20opt%20test%20mochitest-browser-chrome
# [17:36] <jdm> so you are
# [17:36] <froydnj> only on linux-64
# [17:36] <froydnj> which is odd
# [17:36] <jdm> in particular windowtitle stuff which I have never touched
# [17:36] <froydnj> oh, you haven't looked at that? hm
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# [17:37] <jdm> froydnj: don't window titles get updated asynchronously and stuff like that?
# [17:37] <jdm> I would be more inclined to start looking there
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# [17:37] <jdm> ie. nsDocument::SetTitle dispatches an event that actually updates the docshell title
# [17:37] <froydnj> jdm: yeah, they do, and I'm pretty sure all that stuff works
# [17:37] <jdm> hum
# [17:38] <till> hrmpf, Mercurial 2.4 broke qimportbz
# [17:38] <till> http://bz.selenic.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3715
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# [17:38] <jdm> froydnj: hmm, I might be remembering different stuff
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# [17:39] <jdm> maybe the docshell code instead
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# [17:39] <jdm> froydnj: I presume you can't reproduce locally?
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# [17:39] <froydnj> I definitely remember tweaking event dispatching around title setting, but I cannot remember where atm
# [17:39] <froydnj> jdm: I can, fortunately
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# [17:41] <froydnj> jdm: but if you haven't touched the code, I don't know if you could answer questions
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# [17:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d263e80907f9 - Mike Conley - Bug 815678 - Stop Downloads Panel from changing width when scanning completed download. r=mak.
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# [17:43] <edmorley> glob: which is the bug for making gmail html bugmail readable?
# [17:43] <edmorley> (comment font style/size)
# [17:44] <glob> edmorley, hrm, looking
# [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5c72ec4d8c5 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 813778: Don't attempt to retry when a FOTA update fails to apply in B2G. r=bbondy
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# [17:49] <jwir3> I have an nsRefPtr<nsIDOMRange>, and I want to pass it as a parameter to a function that takes nsIDOMRange**. What's the proper way to do that? (The function is calling itself on a child node, so it's fine if the callee addrefs the pointer)
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# [17:52] <glob> edmorley, well, i swear there's a bug, because i remember investigating the issue. can't find it though
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# [17:53] <edmorley> glob: feel better for not being able to find it myself :-)
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# [17:53] <edmorley> glob: is kinda painful to read the bugmails in gmail; going to have to switch back again :-(
# [17:53] <Ms2ger> Evening
# [17:54] <glob> Ms2ger, salutations
# [17:54] <@smaug> Evening
# [17:54] <edmorley> glob: I realise a gmail bug; but the footer of the emails are fine; any way we can style the whole message like that?
# [17:54] <Ms2ger> glob, greetings of the season
# [17:54] <edmorley> hehe
# [17:54] <@smaug> perhaps time to start this workday
# [17:54] <edmorley> Ms2ger: evening mischief
# [17:54] <edmorley> :-)
# [17:54] <glob> edmorley, iirc not without breaking all other clients .. pretty sure it's only firefox+gmail which is problematic
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# [17:54] <Ms2ger> smaug, ah, on your normal schedule again? :)
# [17:55] <@smaug> my schedule is getting quite odd
# [17:55] <edmorley> glob: yes, but the footer presumably works in the other clients; so why not reduce the different styles used?
# [17:55] <@smaug> but this time I blame moco
# [17:55] <edmorley> glob: or was the use of fixed width for the comments intentional?
# [17:56] <glob> edmorley, right, the problem is gmail forces pre to be smaller
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# [17:56] <edmorley> glob: would perhaps not using pre be more readable in general anyway?
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# [17:57] <edmorley> (sorry I was intending to put this in-bug, rather than spam everyone)
# [17:57] <Ms2ger> glob, can't you add pre { font-family: monospace, sans-serif; }?
# [17:57] <Ms2ger> That usually fix our silly small fonts for pre
# [17:57] <glob> edmorley, no, it should match the site, where pre isused
# [17:57] <Ms2ger> fixes
# [17:57] <glob> Ms2ger, gmail strips that out
# [17:57] <Ms2ger> Boo
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# [17:58] <jcranmer> gmail doesn't like non-inline CSS
# [17:58] <Ms2ger> <pre style="">?
# [17:58] <jcranmer> it's actually worse than outlook
# [17:58] <glob> Ms2ger, iirc that doesn't work either
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# [17:58] <Ms2ger> Boo
# [17:58] <glob> however it's been quite a while since i played around with this, i don't use gmail
# [17:58] <jcranmer> [of course, outlook messes it up by using Word's HTML engine, which I recall once reading to be IE 5.5]
# [17:58] <Ms2ger> And, well, boo HTML email
# [17:59] <jcranmer> basically, Thunderbird is probably the single best client at rendering HTML email
# [17:59] <edmorley> glob: ok, well thank you anyway :-)
# [17:59] <jcranmer> and it's got its own stash of issues
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# [17:59] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, well, duh?
# [17:59] <edmorley> glob: I'll just switch back to plaintext and sacrifice readability on my phone (much less of a problem) :-)
# [17:59] <Ms2ger> ;)
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# [18:01] <@bz> Anyone here have a 32-bit build?
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# [18:04] <edmorley> bz: I have a 2 day old win32 nightly (current nightly crashes on gmail woot)
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# [18:05] <@bz> edmorley: gimme a sec to try Mac 32-bit
# [18:05] <@bz> ah, yes
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# [18:14] <jhammel> is (linux) nightly crashy for anyone else?
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# [18:15] <jhammel> all i have to do is start firefox + restore session = crash
# [18:15] * jhammel tries without restore session
# [18:15] <edmorley> jhammel: gmail
# [18:15] <glob> jhammel, do you use gmail?
# [18:15] <edmorley> jhammel: respin on tip
# [18:16] <edmorley> linux eta 15-20 maybe
# [18:16] <jhammel> ah, yes i do indeed
# [18:16] <jhammel> thanks
# [18:16] <edmorley> s/tip/tip - 1/
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# [18:18] <dholbert> edmorley, I'm going to wait a day and then re-land that flexbox-reftest-manifest fix. If we don't get any more instances of that orange in the meantime, and then start getting it again after I re-land, I'll consider it (mysteriously) guilty. :)
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# [18:19] <edmorley> dholbert: wfm :-)
# [18:19] <dholbert> edmorley, and in the meantime, if we see any post-backout oranges, we can file a separate bug and track it there
# [18:19] <jhammel> glob, edmorley : indeed, restoring - gmail works fine; thanks again!
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# [18:25] <_AxS_> hey all -- 'webrtc' support in firefox for ppc et al, is that being worked on? seems some entries are needed to typeefs.h
# [18:26] <_AxS_> s#typeefs.h#mozilla-release/media/webrtc/trunk/src/typedefs.h#
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# [18:26] <@bz> _AxS_: Given that we don't actually support ppc....
# [18:27] <@bz> _AxS_: The TenFourFox folks are the closest to that
# [18:27] <derf> _AxS_: We aren't actively working on it, no.
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# [18:27] <derf> _AxS_: I still think we'd take patches, but that code is upstream code from webrtc.org (i.e.,g Google).
# [18:27] <derf> You should file an issue there.
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# [18:28] <dholbert> edmorley, did you intend to clear your needinfo?(joshmoz) in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761987#c185 ?
# [18:29] <mcsmurf> can Breakpad handle hangs, too, these days? I'm not up-to-date on that
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# [18:29] <edmorley> dholbert: unfortunately not, but by the time I spotted & hit esc the request had gone through :-(
# [18:29] <dholbert> heh
# [18:29] <edmorley> thank you for checking :-)
# [18:30] <dholbert> cool, just wanted to make sure you knew in case you want to re-add
# [18:30] <dholbert> np
# [18:30] <_AxS_> bz: ah, i didn't realize linux/ppc support was dropped.
# [18:30] <_AxS_> derf: so it's a bundled lib? good to know.
# [18:30] <jhammel> (iirc, linux/ppc support was formally dropped a long time ago)
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# [18:31] <mcsmurf> and: How can I can get a hung build to report a "hang report"?
# [18:31] <mcsmurf> kill the process and Breakpad should detect it?
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# [18:34] <@bz> _AxS_: oh, linux/ppc, not sure
# [18:34] <jesup> _AxS_: we've taken some patches for PPC and non-android arm already, and also BSD
# [18:34] <@bz> _AxS_: that was never a tier1, but it may not be completely dropped
# [18:34] <dougt> bz: bug 811815 - i need to uplift that to m-a and m-b. Do you think I should create a different patch that is less risky (see comment #14), or just land what you reviewed?
# [18:34] <@bz> _AxS_: we just don't produce it ourselves; we do take patches.
# [18:34] <_AxS_> ahok. anyways i have my vector, so i'll bug webrtc upstream about this
# [18:34] <@bz> dougt: I think landing what I reviewed is fine.
# [18:35] <derf> _AxS_: Thanks!
# [18:35] <dougt> great. thanks. :)
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# [18:49] <Ms2ger> gps, you're doing something today, aren't you?
# [18:49] <jhammel> are you implying he normally doesn't? ;)
# [18:49] * edmorley is very much looking forward to the build system brown bag in 2 hours
# [18:50] <jhammel> oh yeah, i forgot about that
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# [18:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/938cc49bbb1a - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 813947 - Ensure pointer argument validity. r=bsmedberg
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# [18:56] <jaws> hm, clobber build using mach on my mac mini is now at over 66 minutes. doesn't seem right
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# [19:01] <edmorley> is there an easy way to focus the main comment field on bugzilla using the keyboard (other than tabbing like a maniac)
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# [19:08] <Mook_as> edmorley: alt-shift-c?
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# [19:08] <Mook_as> (that's probably why the "c" in "Comments" is underlined)
# [19:09] <edmorley> oh my, I hadn't noticed that
# [19:09] <edmorley> or more, I've seen that caption so many times but hadn't actually taken it in
# [19:09] <edmorley> thank you
# [19:09] <edmorley> lol
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# [19:10] <Mook_as> don't worry, I didn't notice either, I had to go look when you asked ;)
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# [19:17] <tanvi> smaug or bz - can you take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782654#c60 when you have a chance. I'm not sure how to handle cases where content has an expanded principal instead of a principal
# [19:17] <@smaug> tanvi: I'll try to look at that still today
# [19:18] <@smaug> sorry about not being superfast with the review
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# [19:18] <tanvi> thanks. that's okay. i'm more worried about the broken test than the review.
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# [19:21] * @bz has no idea what the deal is with expanded principals
# [19:21] <@bz> are they documented somewhre?
# [19:21] <@bz> Like what they actually mean, etc?
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# [19:22] <Ms2ger> mounir probably knows
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# [19:23] <@ehsan> bz: wow on bug 815671
# [19:23] <@ehsan> we should have a rule about non-explicit ctors :(
# [19:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d26dff1f3e9 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 800538: Added MOZ_ASSERTs of passed-in VoiceEngine/VideoEngine in MediaEngineWebRTCAudio/VideoSource constructors respectively. r=jesup
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# [19:24] <tanvi> bz - i think it has something to do with allowing xhr's to multiple domains when content is somehow sandboxed (i dont think they are talking about iframe sandbox though). so that if you want to make an xhr to any of the domains in the expanded principal, it is allowed. but none of those domains are really the origin.
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# [19:25] <edmorley> Does anyone perchance have a script to output a list of bug numbers from a range of changesets? (eg for adding to the dependency fields for "push to production" or "update version of {talos,gaia,...}" bugs?
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# [19:25] <mounir> bz: expanded principals has been made for Jetpack
# [19:26] <edmorley> (before myself/jhammel reinvent the wheel)
# [19:26] <mounir> it's a merge between multiple principals
# [19:26] <mounir> ie. you get the rights from multiple principals
# [19:26] <@ehsan> edmorley: you can come with something based on hg log --template '{desc}\n' | sed '...'
# [19:26] <tanvi> mounir - why is it needed?
# [19:26] <@ehsan> edmorley: just need to fill in the sed script ;)
# [19:26] <tanvi> what is the use case?
# [19:27] <mounir> tanvi: I do not know
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# [19:27] <tanvi> hmm
# [19:27] <mounir> tanvi: I haven't worked on them, just wondered "what the hell is that" once and I've been told ;)
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# [19:27] <edmorley> ehsan: yeah that was going to be my plan; it's just going to involve messing with the regex to catch {b=, bug 123456, <multiple bug numbers in same commit message>, ...}
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# [19:27] <@ehsan> edmorley: or you can just look for 6-digit numbers surrounded by non-word chars
# [19:27] <tanvi> okay, let me see if someone on #jetpack knows
# [19:28] <edmorley> ehsan: that's what the backout script does, but it often gets it wrong in the case of multiple bug numbers
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# [19:28] <edmorley> ehsan: just wondered if anyone had anything more reliable
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# [19:36] <@ehsan> edmorley: sorry, people have been trying to do NLP for what, 40 years now? ;)
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# [19:40] <edmorley> ehsan: I mean using the separators and such in the message to determine which bug number is the actual bug number vs one mentioned in a "for causing bug 654321 regressions" sense
# [19:40] <edmorley> nm :-)
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# [20:00] <Ms2ger> mounir, actually wasn't me!
# [20:01] <@ted> BenWa: http://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/1967709
# [20:01] <@ted> i wrote that patch to get the FPS data out
# [20:01] <BenWa> ted: In a meeting. I'll look in 20 mins
# [20:01] <@ted> ok
# [20:01] <@ted> cjones and i had basically the same idea there, interested to hear what you think
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# [20:02] <lduros> hi, I'm trying to create an alternate version browser/base/content/abouthome/aboutHome.js to fix a bug with dom.storage.enabled set as false: I've placed the new file in browser/branding/unofficial/content/aboutHome.js -- My question is what would I have to add to the jar.mn there to make sure aboutHome.js is replaced by my version? Every attempt I made at adding lines in there failed, and I'm a little confused with the Jar manifest
# [20:02] <lduros> page.
# [20:02] <Ms2ger> "the editor in Mozilla is just awesome, please trust me on that"
# [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7ea9f92a4ac6 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 790817 - Add ability to install busybox to marionette, r=jgriffin, a=NPOTB,test-only
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# [20:03] <Enn> smaug: so I figured out what the issue was
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# [20:04] <Mook_as> lduros: easier to override chrome://browser/content/abouthome/aboutHome.js chrome://branding/content/aboutHome.js
# [20:04] <mounir> Ms2ger: could have been ;)
# [20:04] <lduros> Mook_as: ok, so how would I do that?
# [20:05] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: as terrifying a thought as it is the others could be worse
# [20:05] <Mook_as> lduros: put exactly that, starting from "override", in a chrome.manifest of some sort
# [20:05] <lduros> ok, gotcha
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# [20:05] <lduros> Mook_as: thanks
# [20:06] <dholbert> tbsaunde, ping
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# [20:07] <@smaug> Enn: it was what?
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# [20:08] <Enn> smaug: nsAsyncMessageToParent::Run should be checking that the element existed in mASyncMessages before calling ReceiveMessage no?
# [20:09] <Enn> smaug: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsInProcessTabChildGlobal.cpp#63
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# [20:13] <@smaug> Enn: yes
# [20:13] <@smaug> good catch!
# [20:14] <@smaug> Enn: so something what using both sync and async messages
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# [20:14] <@smaug> s/what/was/
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# [20:14] <Enn> yes, a call to DoSendSyncMessage was made just after DoSendAsyncMessage so I was getting the message twice
# [20:14] <@smaug> Enn: well, it isn't quite as easy as that
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# [20:15] <@smaug> since if the sync thing calls Run, 'this' isn't in the array
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# [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/62c5ce1f9aff - Ben Hearsum - bug 815189: b2g builds should clone http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/gaia-nightly. r=catlee, a=akeybl
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# [20:20] <@smaug> Enn: could you just add a flag to nsAsyncMessageToParent to tell whether it has been run already?
# [20:20] <@smaug> I promise instant review for such patch :)
# [20:20] <Enn> I used a helper function but I use a flag instead
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# [20:24] <dholbert> tbsaunde, un-ping, commented on bug.
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# [20:26] <jimb> ted: ping
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# [20:27] <@ted> jimb: pong
# [20:27] <jimb> ted: Hi! I've got some comments about PP_TARGETS' design; who's the best person to kibbitz with about that?
# [20:27] * @ted guesses this is in re: twitter griping about makefiles
# [20:27] <@ted> glandium wrote that
# [20:27] <jimb> ted: You are so right. :D
# [20:27] <jimb> ted: Thanks!
# [20:27] <jimb> glandium: ping
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# [20:27] <edmorley> ted: nice deflection :-)
# [20:28] <jimb> edmorley: And who could blame him? :)
# [20:28] <edmorley> indeed
# [20:28] <@ted> sometimes i just review the patches
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# [20:28] <edmorley> ted: speaking of reviews... :-)
# [20:28] <edmorley> (just kidding)
# [20:29] <edmorley> just about time for dinner before the build system brown bag
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# [20:29] <lduros> Mook_as: so I can stick a manifest somewhere in browser/branding/unofficial?
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# [20:30] <glandium> jimb: pong
# [20:30] <Mook_as> lduros: well... do you expect it to work? :p
# [20:30] <lduros> Mook_as: no idea :-)
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# [20:30] <lduros> there must be a way
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# [20:31] <mcsmurf> where can I see the brown bag?
# [20:31] <mcsmurf> or is it not streamed?
# [20:31] <@ted> he posted about it to a newsgroup somewhere
# [20:31] <@ted> should be on air.mozilla
# [20:31] <Mook_as> lduros: yes % override blahblah in jar.mn
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# [20:31] <jimb> glandium: Hi! While I certainly appreciate our goal of getting rid of custom rules in Makefile.in files, I'm having a bit of difficulty getting PP_TARGETS to do what I want.
# [20:32] <glandium> jimb: if you want to treat a .in file, that's expected, there's a bug on that
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# [20:32] <lduros> Mook_as: sure thing :-P, but I'm wondering now if I need to edit browser/installer/package-manifest.in so that it gets copied over from dist/bin later on
# [20:32] <glandium> jimb: bug 701393
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# [20:32] <lduros> dist/bin to staging directory, I mean
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# [20:33] <lduros> I guess so
# [20:33] <jimb> glandium: That would serve my purpose; then I could place the PP output in the build directory (which is what I need), without generating idiot depedencies like "gdb-test-gdb.py: gdb-test-gdb.py"
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# [20:34] <glandium> dbaron: i don't remember what i told you to try for perf, but -fno-omit-frame-pointer is certainly going to help, because perf doesn't have dwarf cfi unwinding yet
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# [20:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38c868aa3acd - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 800658; turn the tests back on. r=bjacob
# [20:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69b764d11dcc - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 800658. remove aCommitTransform. r=bas
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# [20:35] <@dbaron> glandium, but 'perf script' clearly showed good stacks
# [20:35] <@dbaron> glandium, so I'm still pretty convinced the problem is that 'perf report''s UI just doesn't do what I want it to do
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# [20:38] <glandium> dbaron: in my case, perf script doesn't even have good stacks
# [20:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/79aae58dfb76 - Edwin Flores - Bug 812756 - Set AmpleVideoFrames to the minimum to win a race when shutting down OMX.qcom.video.decoder.mpeg4 decoder. r=doublec a=blocking-basecamp
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# [20:40] <@bz> Is there any way I can run Try on just WinXP ?
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# [20:40] <glandium> ah, looks like dwarf support landed in august
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# [20:42] <sfink> bz: yes, probably, for tests.
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# [20:43] <@bz> "try: -b d -p win32 -u jsreftest -t none" is what I have now
# [20:43] <sfink> bz: (this is something I added very recently)
# [20:44] <sfink> bz: do you happen to know what WINNT 5.1 and 6.1 are?
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# [20:44] <sfink> bz: if 5.1 is XP, then "try: -b d -p win32 -u jsreftest[5.1] -t none"
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# [20:45] <@bz> sfink: ok, thanks
# [20:45] <sfink> bz: bug 802937
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# [20:46] <@ted> 5.1 is XP, yes
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# [20:46] <@ted> 6.1 is 7
# [20:46] <@ted> which is a ridiculous thing to type, but there you are
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# [20:46] <jimb> glandium, gps: Any reason not to land the patch in bug 701393?
# [20:46] <@bz> No worse than 1.9.2 is 3.6!
# [20:46] <glandium> jimb: nope
# [20:47] <@ted> bz: i guess, but i don't know what you'd call 6.1 then
# [20:47] <@ted> windows version 6.1 is windows 7
# [20:48] <@bz> heh
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# [20:56] <NeilAway> dholbert: nsTArray copying bug?
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# [20:56] <dholbert> NeilAway, yeah, Bug 815671
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# [20:57] <Ms2ger> gps, hey, starting already?
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# [21:04] <@bz> dholbert: what about that bug?
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# [21:05] <dholbert> bz, I ++'d you for it earlier
# [21:05] <@bz> dholbert: ah, ok. ;)
# [21:06] <@ehsan> jdm: the blog post is public now, fyi
# [21:06] <dholbert> [08:35:27] <dholbert> bz++ for fixing all that nsTArray copying
# [21:06] <dholbert> [08:35:38] <dholbert> (yikes)
# [21:06] <jdm> ehsan: did you hear back from mark?
# [21:06] <jdm> ah, so you did
# [21:06] <@ehsan> jdm: Erica gave me the green light
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# [21:06] <jdm> \o/
# [21:07] <@ehsan> \o/ indeed!
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# [21:09] <jwir3|lunch> NeilAway: Well, yeah. It should have been nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMRange>... but the question still exists ;)
# [21:09] <jdm> ehsan: website seems to be down
# [21:09] <davidb> yeah
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# [21:10] <@ehsan> huh
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# [21:10] <@ehsan> jdm: it was working just a minute ago...
# [21:11] <NeilAway> jwir3|lunch: getter_AddRefs()
# [21:11] <jdm> ehsan: my browser won't connect
# [21:11] <@ehsan> yeah neither does mine
# [21:11] <@ehsan> let me see
# [21:11] <NeilAway> jwir3|lunch: e.g. nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMRange> range; foo->GetRange(getter_AddRefs(range));
# [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaf6805d27d6 - Joel Maher - Bug 786414 - unable to update sutagent on the panda boards. r=wlach DONTBUILD
# [21:12] <jwir3> NeilAway: Even if I'm within the GetRange() function already? e.g. inside of GetRange, I call foo->GetRange(getter_AddRefs(aDOMRange))? I want to do this to call it on its children
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# [21:13] <NeilAway> jwir3: in that case aDOMRange is already an nsIDOMRange** ?
# [21:13] <@smaug> Enn: ping
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# [21:13] <@smaug> in XUL how does one say that clicking the element should open a popup?
# [21:14] <jwir3> NeilAway: Yes... I suppose I should create a new nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMRange> and pass that in, though, so that I can verify whether or not it succeeded and set aDOMRange accordingly with range.forget(aDOMRange)
# [21:14] <@smaug> is it like <somelement popup="popupid" label="clickme"/> <menupopup id="popupid"></menupopup>
# [21:14] <NeilAway> smaug: that's one way yes
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# [21:15] <@smaug> NeilAway: and if s/popup/context/ it requires right click?
# [21:15] <NeilAway> smaug: right
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# [21:16] <NeilAway> jwir3: well, you should check the rv for that
# [21:17] <jwir3> NeilAway: Yes. But, what I mean is that I don't probably want to set it to aDOMRange right away, since I want to handle the situation where it could be nullptr, and I don't want it to set nullptr to the output variable, possibly clobbering something useful I had there before.
# [21:17] <mjrosenb> bz: you said you build on osx using a clang that you built yourself rather than xcode, right?
# [21:18] <NeilAway> jwir3: well, if you possibly had something in an output variable before then you're going to give yourself a refcounting nightmare
# [21:18] <jwir3> NeilAway: I already have a refcounting nightmare. ;)
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# [21:19] <jwir3> NeilAway: Let me make it more clear what I would like to do. I have an api in nsIMarkupDocumentListener that's accessible from chrome JS
# [21:19] <@smaug> refcounting shouldn't ever be nightmare, so I wonder what jwir3 is doing :)
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# [21:19] <jwir3> :|
# [21:19] <NeilAway> jwir3: although I guess if you use *aDOMRange = nullptr; maybeSet(aDOMRange); nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMRange> range; foo->GetRange(getter_AddRefs(range)); if (range) range.swap(*aDOMRange); then that would work
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# [21:20] <NeilAway> smaug: (there's another way of opening popups which is how menubuttons and menulists work, the popup is always a child of the element and the element needs an XBL binding)
# [21:20] <jwir3> Basically, what I want is to be able to call mudv.getRangeForPoint(aX, aY, range), and have it fill the range variable in. The problem I'm running into is that the markup document viewer method needs to call itself on all of its children
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# [21:21] <@smaug> NeilAway: yup. I was just interested in the most generic case. HTML may get something similar soon
# [21:21] <@smaug> since it has context already
# [21:22] <jcranmer> NeilAway: ?
# [21:22] <vladan> i think that code sample crashed my IRC client.. probably a nullptr
# [21:22] <jwir3> NeilAway, smaug: Here's what I have right now: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1967796
# [21:22] <NeilAway> jcranmer: Thunderbird isn't the sole HTML-capable email client :-P
# [21:22] <jcranmer> well, Thunderbird and SeaMonkey and other Gecko-based email viewers
# [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abb39d1df815 - David Keeler - bug 816059 - properly reset blocklist in browser-chrome tests r=jaws
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# [21:26] <NeilAway> jwir3: hmm, well from that pastebin I can't see why you can't use aDOMRange
# [21:26] <jwir3> NeilAway: Perhaps I can....
# [21:27] <NeilAway> ehsan: 6-digit numbers? that won't last long ;-)
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# [22:22] <Ms2ger> glandium, sorry, misunderstood your name as "my commie"
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# [22:23] <gozala> bz: I have question regarding browser vs iframe
# [22:24] <gozala> some of our code has being using iframe until recently when it switched to browser
# [22:24] <gozala> and there seems to be a subtle difference on how contentWindow behaves
# [22:25] <gozala> more specifically if js in contetWindow changes window.location
# [22:25] <@bz> gozala: Are you talking <xul:browser> ?
# [22:25] <gozala> yes
# [22:25] <@bz> ok
# [22:25] * @bz is not sure there should be a difference, particularly
# [22:25] <@bz> what are you seeing?
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# [22:26] <gozala> yes so what I observe is that
# [22:26] <gozala> window.location changes
# [22:26] <gozala> in case of iframe contentWindow remains same
# [22:26] <@bz> For which window?
# [22:26] <gozala> if code loaded in the contentWindow changes window.location
# [22:26] <@bz> ok
# [22:27] <@bz> so it's navigating the subframe
# [22:27] <@bz> right?
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# [22:27] <gozala> so contentWindow seems to be the same but it's innerWindowID changes
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# [22:27] <gozala> but in case of browser it looks like contentWindow changes itself
# [22:27] <@bz> Is this a <browser type="content"> ?
# [22:28] <gozala> or at just window.innerWindowID does not changes
# [22:28] <gozala> yes
# [22:28] <@bz> ok
# [22:28] <@bz> so _that_ is a difference
# [22:28] <@bz> With <iframe> you were dealing with stuff that didn't have Xray wrappers, I would think
# [22:28] <@bz> so .contentWindow, which is the outer window, stays the same across navigations
# [22:28] <@bz> but of course its inner changes
# [22:29] <@bz> Now that you've got Xrays involved, it sounds like you get a new Xray
# [22:29] <@bz> which is possibly a bug
# [22:29] <@bz> mrbkap or bholley would be able to say for sure
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# [22:29] <@bz> So it's not object-identical anymore, is the upshot
# [22:29] <gozala> I guess I should be able to unwrap to avoid that issues then
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# [22:30] <gozala> bz: actually have not asserted objects themselves
# [22:30] <gozala> but there is assertion for innerWindowId that fails
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# [22:31] <@bz> what's the innerWindowId assertion?
# [22:31] <@bz> Are you seeing that not change?
# [22:31] <@bz> when the navigation happens?
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# [22:31] <gozala> yes
# [22:31] <@bz> That's ... odd.
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# [22:31] <@bz> Just to check, how are you getting the inner window id?
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# [22:32] <gozala> to be more precise this is what I do
# [22:32] <gozala> just a sec..
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# [22:33] <gozala> bz: so I have an observer on inner-window-destroyed
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# [22:34] <gozala> that asserts if innerWinID that was during initial load
# [22:34] <gozala> to subject.QueryInterface(Ci.nsISupportsPRUint64).data
# [22:34] <@bz> hold on
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# [22:35] <@bz> so
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# [22:35] <@bz> subject.QueryInterface(Ci.nsISupportsPRUint64).data is the window id of the inner that got destroyed
# [22:35] <@bz> fine
# [22:35] <@bz> What are you doing with it?
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# [22:36] <gozala> ok so once I create a browser I save it's contentWindow innerWindowID
# [22:36] <gozala> that I obtain like this
# [22:36] <gozala> https://github.com/mozilla/addon-sdk/blob/master/lib/sdk/window/utils.js#L34-L37
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# [22:37] <gozala> I also set up an observer for "inner-window-destroyed"
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# [22:37] <gozala> where I observe if innerWinID === subject.QueryInterface(Ci.nsISupportsPRUint64).data
# [22:37] <@bz> ok.
# [22:37] <gozala> to know if that's my document and if it is do a cleanup etc..
# [22:38] <@bz> ok
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# [22:38] <gozala> so with iframe if code with in it changes window.location
# [22:38] <gozala> that assertion is true and everything works
# [22:38] <@bz> ok
# [22:38] <gozala> with browser it is not
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# [22:38] <@bz> ok
# [22:38] <@bz> So what is the exact sequence of events?
# [22:38] <@bz> You create a browser element
# [22:39] <@bz> Then set the src?
# [22:39] <@bz> then insert it into the DOM?
# [22:39] <@bz> Then what?
# [22:39] <gozala> ok let me check that sequence is exactly that
# [22:39] <@bz> Specifically, at what exact point do you save the currentInnerWindowID?
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# [22:39] <@bz> Oh
# [22:40] <@bz> so....
# [22:40] <gozala> so 1 create element
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# [22:40] <gozala> set type ans src
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# [22:40] <@bz> ok
# [22:40] * gozala then intsert to document
# [22:40] <glandium> Ms2ger: huh?
# [22:40] <Matti> bz: regarding bug 813952. This seems to be fixed on Seamonkey trunk/Win7 but I can see the error in Firefox17. Is a fix range and/or a regression range useful ?
# [22:40] <@bz> ok
# [22:40] <gozala> then wait for DOMContentLoaded
# [22:40] <@bz> mmm, ok
# [22:41] <@bz> Matti: Please!
# [22:41] <Ms2ger> glandium, gps mentioned you, but I wasn't listening well
# [22:41] <gozala> then change src again
# [22:41] <glandium> Ms2ger: ah, i wasn't watching the brownbag
# [22:42] <gozala> then if readyState is "complete" or "interactive"
# [22:42] <gozala> get a innerWindowID
# [22:42] <gozala> if redayState is diff
# [22:42] <gozala> observe document-element-inserted
# [22:43] <@bz> hold on
# [22:43] * @bz is stepping through code in his head
# [22:43] <@bz> So you wait for DOMContentLoaded on the initial page you were loading
# [22:43] <@bz> And then you change the src attribute?
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# [22:43] <gozala> yes
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# [22:44] <@bz> OK
# [22:44] <gozala> so initial is about:blank
# [22:44] <@bz> oh!
# [22:44] <@bz> That's Very Important
# [22:44] <@bz> So you start with a browser
# [22:44] <@bz> you set its src to about:blank, no the URI you really want to load
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# [22:44] <@bz> Then you insert it in the DOM
# [22:44] <@bz> Right?
# [22:44] <gozala> yes
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# [22:44] <@bz> Then you wait for the DOMContentLoaded on the about:blank, and change src to the URI you really want to load.
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# [22:45] <gozala> yes
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# [22:45] <gozala> once src is set
# [22:45] <gozala> I check contentDocument.readyState
# [22:45] <@bz> So this is the readyState of the about:blank document in this case
# [22:45] <gozala> no no
# [22:46] <gozala> I mean after DOMContentLoaded
# [22:46] <@bsmedberg> ted: is FOO_DEST for INSTALL_TARGETS a file path or a directory?
# [22:46] <gozala> and then I changed to actual URI I want to load
# [22:46] <@bz> yes...
# [22:46] <@bz> And then you immediately checked the readyState, right?
# [22:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef27355903e8 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 801195 - Delay changing generator state (r=luke)
# [22:46] <gozala> then I check readyState
# [22:46] <@bz> Which will therefore be the readyState of the about:blank
# [22:46] <@bz> if you're checking it synchronously right after changing the src
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# [22:47] <gozala> I see so I guess that is an issues then
# [22:47] <@bz> So that's fine so far
# [22:47] <gozala> I probably get readyState for "about:blank"
# [22:47] <@bz> I would expect that to be "interactive"
# [22:47] <gozala> but I assume it's for my document
# [22:47] <@bz> and you get the window id of the about:blank
# [22:47] <@bz> ok
# [22:48] <@bz> worth logging the document.URI when you grab the readyState
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# [22:48] <@bz> just to check which document you're working with
# [22:48] <gozala> yeah and thats why my assertion is broken then
# [22:48] <gozala> bz: I see what's going on now
# [22:48] <gozala> what I don't understand is why does iframe works ?
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# [22:50] <@bz> gozala: There's a good chance the iframe reuses the inner window for the about:blank and the actual document
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# [22:50] <@bz> gozala: for chrome windows there's some weirness like that, iirc
# [22:51] <gozala> bz: ok thanks a lot for making me understand this
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# [22:51] <gozala> bz: BTW do I actually need to load "about:blank" initially ?
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# [22:51] <@khuey> who will admit to knowing something about regular expressions?
# [22:51] <@bz> gozala: no
# [22:51] <@bz> gozala: imo
# [22:52] <gozala> I see, and in that case everything would have worked fine I assume
# [22:52] <Ms2ger> khuey, mounir will
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# [22:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7aca474f43cb - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806937: Private browsing mode for Browser toolbar. [r=mfinkle]
# [22:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90213ba41937 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806937: Private tabs support for awesomebar tabs. [r=mfinkle]
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# [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/341dfa820cd5 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806927: [PBM] Add private browsing specific menu items to the main menu. [r=mfinkle]
# [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff583cde143c - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806937: Private tabs support for awesomescreen. [r=mfinkle]
# [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30ae7de73333 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806937: Private browsing mode for Tabs button. [r=mfinkle]
# [22:53] <@bz> gozala: I think so, yeah
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# [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08d3516faa3a - Matt Woodrow - Bug 810302 - Force playing videos to always get an active layers. r=roc
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# [23:18] <jlebar> I'm outside libxul, but someone is apparently #define'ing strdup to moz_strdup.
# [23:18] <jlebar> Is this something I want?
# [23:18] <jlebar> If not, how do I turn it off?
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# [23:19] <jlebar> khuey: ^?
# [23:19] <gozala> bz: sorry to bother again, but could it be that `window.location` changes with in the content type browser don't notify "inner-window-destroyed" ?
# [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a242c45cc80b - Gregor Wagner - Bug 814153 - Need additional security checks for the "settings" permission. r=bent
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# [23:23] <sfink> jlebar: it happens in mozalloc_macro_wrappers.h, which appears to be included by nscore.h. There's also a mozalloc_undef_macro_wrappers.h that undoes it; maybe you need to include that somehow?
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# [23:23] <sfink> (I don't know anything about the why)
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# [23:24] <sfink> jlebar: if you #define any of XPCOM_GLUE, NS_NO_XPCOM, or MOZ_NO_MOZALLOC, it'll go away
# [23:25] <jlebar> Oh, NO_MOZALLOC sounds hopeful.
# [23:25] <jlebar> It links!
# [23:25] <jlebar> Ship it.
# [23:25] <jlebar> Thanks, sfink.
# [23:25] <sfink> jlebar: thank my linux-native gnu grep :)
# [23:25] <jlebar> :D
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# [23:28] <Ms2ger> jlebar, are you going to check for allocation failure everywhere? :)
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# [23:28] <jlebar> Ms2ger: Yes, actually.
# [23:28] <Ms2ger> Good, then you don't want that
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# [23:30] <gps> ehsan: bug 784841
# [23:30] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [23:41] <@khuey> jlebar: still need help?
# [23:42] <gregglind> what I am doing wrong with this access style: file:///Users/glind/gits/altpilot/prof/FILES/behavioral_analysis_survey.jar!behavioral_analysis_survey.js
# [23:43] <gregglind> I tried changing it to 'jar:' but then it just searches (from the url bar)
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# [23:44] <gregglind> ah! jar:file:///Users/glind/gits/altpilot/prof/FILES/behavioral_analysis_survey.jar!/behavioral_analysis_survey.js
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# [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71ffd1a30c08 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 815833 - [contacts] Add PhoneNumberJS to ContactsDB. r=bent
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# [23:48] <jlebar> khuey: No, I think sfink helped. Probably.
# [23:49] <jlebar> At least, he helped it link. We'll see if it's correct sometime in the future. :)
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# [23:50] <@khuey> cool
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# [23:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34e6bda0ba0e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 9430676f5442 (bug 808767) for Android R3 failures.
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# [23:53] <RyanVM> dholbert: ^
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# [23:54] <Matti> bz: should I bisect bug 813952 ?
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# [23:58] <jhammel> it'd be really cool if there was an eta somewhere
# [23:58] <@bz> They've been pending for about 2 hours so far....
# [23:58] <jhammel> that seems....normal(ish)
# [23:58] <jhammel> at least in recent history
# [23:58] <@bz> yeah
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# [23:59] <@bz> If I didn't have to do a dozen or so of them in series... ;)
# [23:59] <jhammel> heh
# [23:59] <sfink> bz: unless I screwed you over with invalid try syntax, in which case they'll never come
# [23:59] <@bz> sfink: I haven't used your syntax yet
# [23:59] <sfink> phew, safe!
# [23:59] <@bz> sfink: this is stuff I pushed before our conversation
# [23:59] <@bz> And tbpl shows them as pending
# [23:59] <sfink> actually, I just did a push with "try: -b do -p macosx64 -u jsreftest[10.7] -t none" and it Did The Right Thing
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