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28. # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d2b2b1018a7 - Brian Hackett - Factor computation of live ranges out of LSRA, bug 817213. r=jandem
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35. # [00:51] <mjrosenb> anyone know why gdb does not know about js::StackFrame?
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48. # [01:12] <NeilAway> RealRaven: well, if a command event works, then event.doCommand() is the easiest way to generate one
49. # [01:12] <NeilAway> RealRaven: sorry, element.doCommand() generates an event ;-)
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72. # [01:40] <mjrosenb> ok, anyone know how I print a JSAtom's string representation out in gdb?
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77. # [01:45] <@dolske> mjrosenb: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/.gdbinit ?
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79. # [01:45] <@dolske> although that doesn't seem to specifically deal with JSAtoms.
80. # [01:45] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: are jsatoms at all similar to gecko atoms? (I expect not)
81. # [01:46] <tbsaunde> although presambly they refer to a string of utf16 chars somehow which you can just x/hs whatever
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83. # [01:47] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: no clue, but I don't see anything in the jsatom that looks like a pointer
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85. # [01:47] <mjrosenb> oh, wait, there is a "chars" field
86. # [01:47] <tbsaunde> ... stange
87. # [01:47] <mjrosenb> and "left"
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93. # [01:51] <anant_> I get a "this operation is insecure" error when calling contentDocument.write on an iframe
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95. # [01:52] <anant_> the iframe is created by script, and setting the origin to the same as the creator's doesn't help - any ideas?
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98. # [01:54] <mjrosenb> modalDepth
99. # [01:54] <mjrosenb> Victory!
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102. # [01:57] <mjrosenb> well, sort of
103. # [01:57] <mjrosenb> now comes time to do something I've never done before
104. # [01:57] <mjrosenb> I have a js script that looks like chrome://global/content/BrowserElementChild.js
105. # [01:58] <mjrosenb> where on earth is this file actually within my m-c checkout?
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107. # [02:00] <mjrosenb> oh, ./dom/browser-element/BrowserElementChild.js
108. # [02:00] <mjrosenb> of course
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148. # [02:41] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: is there a reason Im not seeing you couldn't block people from copying literal strings with a specific operator=?
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154. # [02:44] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: you'd need some dummy classes inheriting from nsDependantString and maybe nsFlatString or something, but seems doable.
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164. # [03:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5216ba25182f - Ed Morley - Bug 813650 - Part 2: checkForCrashes() should output the top frame of a crash in a TBPL-parsable format; r=ted
165. # [03:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1cdee6935ae2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
166. # [03:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e678ae110693 - Ed Morley - Bug 813650 - Part 1: Don't print minidump stackwalk output incrementally, so we can implement part 2 without changing log order; r=ted
167. # [03:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2533bce8e045 - Bellindira Castillo [:bellindira] - Bug 806715 - Port browser_tabview_bug624265.js to the new per-tab PB APIs; r=ehsan
168. # [03:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e83393045b95 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 815161: Use caching getproperty to fetch prototype to create this, r=jandem
169. # [03:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6477f8bf2be5 - Brian Hackett - Insert additional resume points after operations likely to kill values, bug 814997. r=dvander
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182. # [03:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebaa0a4d35a3 - Doug Turner - Bug 813758 - Ensure permission for geolocation is tested in the parent process. r=bent
183. # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4db5da82a09c - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 816487 - Allow all ASCII characters for WebIDL enum. r=bz
184. # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ae83dcf774e - Ralph Giles - Bug 817179 - Fix an issue with Opus padding larger than 16. r=tterribe
185. # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93f966c9168f - Jan Beich - Bug 817267 - dirfd() is a macro on some BSDs, fix build there. r=yoric
186. # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7ac63e9cbf1 - Amod Narvekar - Bug 781346 - Expose local profie directory to OS.Constants.Path. r=yoric
187. # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/496c379c8d16 - Tim Taubert - Bug 811953 - [keyboard] Submitting a form from a text field with the keyboard up persists the keyboard. r=vingtetun
188. # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb87b9c66b7e - Doug Turner - Bug 816335 - Remove Network Geolocation Provider from B2G. r=cjones, a=blocking-basecamp
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251. # [05:36] <jesup> The "Test Pilot: Raw Data" display is impressively borked
252. # [05:37] <jesup> I love the "Histogram Frecency (sic) 30 10?4?2?3?1??1???1?1????????7"
253. # [05:38] <KWierso> jesup: gets progressively more confused as it goes on :P
254. # [05:38] <jesup> KWierso: quite. Scrolling through it is 'fun'
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257. # [05:40] <jesup> Event better when it started, I opened it and clicked my age (for fun, it was the entry out of order at the bottom). Then AUrora locked up for ~10 minutes doing 1.5MB/s of disk IO, before going back to normal operation and showing my selected age. Really
258. # [05:41] <jesup> s/Event/Even/
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261. # [05:44] <gps> jcranmer: pong
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267. # [06:03] <jcranmer> gps: how much do you work with clang's code these days?
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270. # [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/019f1b94cdd9 - Doug Turner - Bug 813758 - Ensure permission for geolocation is tested in the parent process. r=bent a=blocking-basecamp
271. # [06:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/01d1fd6ff365 - Doug Turner - Bug 816335 - Remove Network Geolocation Provider from B2G. r=cjones, a=blocking-basecamp
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274. # [06:16] <gps> jcranmer: I haven't touched it in a while. but, I might be able to answer questions until espindola shows up :)
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281. # [06:26] <jcranmer> I was actually wondering if I could get someone to push on the clang plugins patch instead of me...
282. # [06:27] <gps> jcranmer: writing Clang plugins is surprisingly easy. I think any competent C++ developer could manage
283. # [06:28] <jcranmer> gps: no, I have a patch which modifies the plugin architecture to be more sane
284. # [06:28] <gps> oh, that
285. # [06:28] <gps> I remember now :)
286. # [06:28] <gps> I don't have clout to get that checked in. talk to espindola
287. # [06:29] <jcranmer> well, it needs cleanup work
288. # [06:29] <jcranmer> but I've just not had time to push on it
289. # [06:29] <jcranmer> since you mentioned the clang plugin stuff recently, I had been wondering if you were in a position to do the ongoing patch curation
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291. # [06:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8868ca286572 - Jim Blandy - Bug 775789: Install .gdbinit correctly in $(DIST)/bin. r=glandium
292. # [06:30] <gps> sadly no. I have other high-priority work
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303. # [06:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/483a8a9702a6 - Crypt - Bug 810220 - Patch to fix SDP Codec Negotiation Issues r=ekr,jesup
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318. # [07:10] <mjrosenb> do I want to know what #if JS_HAS_XML_SUPPORT is for?
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320. # [07:11] <KWierso> * has ECMAScript for XML support *
321. # [07:14] <@dolske> E4X?
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329. # [07:31] <mjrosenb> I was very afraid that it was e4x
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331. # [07:31] <mjrosenb> but I think gdb may be lying to me about code under that macro being executed
332. # [07:31] <mjrosenb> s/think/hope for my own sanity/
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358. # [08:19] <mjrosenb> ok, new question for anyone who is still awake
359. # [08:19] <mjrosenb> sendAsyncMsg('showmodalprompt', args);
360. # [08:19] <mjrosenb> I wish to determine what is responsible for receiving this message
361. # [08:27] <@dolske> where is that code?
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367. # [08:29] <derf> Dear bugzilla: Why are you so slow?
368. # [08:29] <derf> Hugs and kisses,
369. # [08:29] <derf> -derf
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371. # [08:31] * @dolske finds dom/browser-element/BrowserElementPromptService.jsm
372. # [08:32] <@dolske> what the fuck. why do we have yet another prompt service implementation in the tree?!
373. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> dolske: BrowserElementChild.js:216 (or thereabouts, I've added print debug statements all over there)
374. # [08:34] <mjrosenb> dolske: what is a prompt service, and where are the other ones?
375. # [08:34] <@dolske> maybe if the B2G people were not rewriting stuff we already have you wouldn't have to be debugging this!
376. # [08:34] <@dolske> y'know... all the code that handles prompts in desktop and mobile firefox.
377. # [08:35] * mjrosenb does not know life outside of the internals of the js engine jits
378. # [08:35] <mjrosenb> and all this stuff looks *very* different from down there.
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380. # [08:36] <mjrosenb> dolske: so evidently b2g's browser will sometimes hang rather than displaying the slowscript prompt
381. # [08:37] <mjrosenb> dolske: fabrice said that he saw it, so evidently it is only sometimes that it doesn't get displayed
382. # [08:38] <@dolske> I wouldn't know; I remember fixing that on desktop a couple years ago.
383. # [08:39] <mjrosenb> I/Gecko ( 2157): [Child 2157] WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(IsChromeProcess()) failed: file /home/mrosenberg/src/B2G/B2G2/gecko/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp, line 687
384. # [08:39] <mjrosenb> I suspect that is the root of my issues
385. # [08:39] <mjrosenb> while I've seen that a few times in the logs, this happens right as we go to display a prompt right as we go to display the prompt
386. # [08:40] <mjrosenb> although, I would have expected that on a different thread?
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403. # [09:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79694053176f - Randell Jesup - Backed out changeset 483a8a9702a6
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406. # [09:03] <mjrosenb> blast, neither jlebar nor bholley are here :(
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412. # [09:17] <@dbaron> Should Bugzilla really take 30 seconds to add a comment to a bug... at midnight on a Saturday?
413. # [09:21] <derf> Yes.
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417. # [09:25] <@dbaron> One of these days I'm going to write an email handler that will make bugzilla comments for me when I send it email in response to bugmail.
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422. # [09:31] <mjrosenb> jira already has that feature
423. # [09:31] <mjrosenb> hilarious thing about it is it also has the "do not reply to this email" footer
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469. # [10:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dd3ad86cb111 - Mark Hammond - Bug 812108 - ensure that if 'try again' on a social error fails, we continue to display the error message. r=felipe a=akeybl
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478. # [11:24] <sawrubh> Does anyone here have landing privileges ? I have a bug which deals with files under constant flux and need to land it quickly.
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483. # [11:31] <Ms2ger> sawrubh, sure
484. # [11:32] <Optimizer> anyone has an idea on how to get reference to a tab from a content window
485. # [11:32] <Optimizer> ?
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489. # [11:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/253009438c5b - Saurabh Anand - Bug 816176 - Move WebGLShaderPrecisionFormat to a separate header; r=bjacob
490. # [11:40] <Ms2ger> There you go
491. # [11:40] <sawrubh> Thank you nice sir.
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493. # [11:42] <Ms2ger> Np
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498. # [11:53] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: speaking of which, I think you could have used Substring(imgData, imgSize) in attachment 671272 ;-)
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502. # [11:55] <Optimizer> I guess its too hard for anyone to know . hmph
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504. # [11:56] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: another approach would be to have some sort of flag marking the string as a literal, so it doesn't get copied unless you need to mutate it
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507. # [12:01] <NeilAway> Optimizer: I think you have to go via getBrowserIndexForDocument
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509. # [12:01] <NeilAway> Optimizer: the irony is that the code internally uses a function that you want, but it's not API :s
510. # [12:02] <Optimizer> :(
511. # [12:02] <Optimizer> even after getting browser
512. # [12:02] <Optimizer> I want the tab
513. # [12:02] <Optimizer> there is no way to get tab from browser
514. # [12:02] <Optimizer> without iteration
515. # [12:02] <NeilAway> Optimizer: no, get the browser index...
516. # [12:03] <Optimizer> oh, the tab index nd browser index are same ?
517. # [12:03] <Optimizer> always ?
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519. # [12:04] <NeilAway> Optimizer: yeah, the same indices are used for tabbrowser.tabs and tabbrowser.browsers
520. # [12:04] <Optimizer> lol
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522. # [12:04] <Optimizer> after checking out the source code of that function
523. # [12:04] <Optimizer> it uses _getTabForContetWindow
524. # [12:04] <Optimizer> :D
525. # [12:05] <NeilAway> Optimizer: yes, but you're not allowed to use that, because it might get renamed or removed at any time
526. # [12:05] <Optimizer> :D, so she said
527. # [12:05] <Optimizer> I am okay, since its not a pain after getting browser index only
528. # [12:06] <Optimizer> oh, and that private method itself iterates ... so its the same thing :|
529. # [12:06] <Optimizer> I was hoping there was a mapping somewhere
530. # [12:08] <NeilAway> Optimizer: no mapping from browsers to tabs as far as I know
531. # [12:09] <Optimizer> hmm.. Thanks for the pointers :)
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540. # [12:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/791ce5d073bc - Alexander Surkov - Bug 804461, part3 - use context to build list trees, r=tbsaunde
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571. # [14:03] <_Michael_21> Hello - please, I need help. I get follow message by building: mozilla-release/security/nss/lib/util/nssutil.def:1: syntax error in VERSION script
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574. # [14:06] <_Michael_21> and also libfreebl3.so
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584. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> 0:05.58 checking for python2.7... (cached) /usr/bin/python2.6
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587. # [14:32] <Optimizer> weird. When you press Alt key, keydown is trigger, then press suppose "R" key, again keydown, then remove "R" so that only Alt is pressed, keyup and keypress are triggered. Now when you remove Alt key, nothing is triggered :(
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608. # [15:08] <sankha93> nbp: hi
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615. # [15:15] <sankha93> can somebody help me out in getting started with ionmonkey?
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617. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> #jsapi during Pacific working hours, I'd say
618. # [15:18] <sankha93> Ms2ger: ok.. i´ll ask there.. :)
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620. # [15:20] <Matti> Ms2ger: are you doing a dos attack on hg log ?
621. # [15:20] <Ms2ger> Not intentionally, why?
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623. # [15:23] <Matti> one page full of checkins :-)
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625. # [15:26] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: can you help me with keyboard events ?
626. # [15:27] <Ms2ger> Not really
627. # [15:27] <Ms2ger> That would be smaug or emk
628. # [15:27] <Ms2ger> Or maybe Enn
629. # [15:27] * Ms2ger has managed to avoid those
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639. # [15:44] <_Michael_21> Hello! I woul build Firefox from the source. Can I download this von gid?
640. # [15:45] <Callek> not sure what Von Gid is, but https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build
641. # [15:46] <_Michael_21> oh thanks.
642. # [15:47] <_Michael_21> How difficult is this, I build a source from a file like this? firefox-17.0.1.source.tar.bz2
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644. # [15:48] <Ms2ger> I understand that's possible, but it's not recommended if you want to keep it up to date or change anything
645. # [15:48] <_Michael_21> I was beginning by 3 versions - but I have get errors this I could not solve
646. # [15:48] <Callek> or you could get the source from hg ;-)
647. # [15:48] * Callek has to run back to what he is working on -- good luck, others here should be able to help more
648. # [15:49] * Ms2ger signs Callek
649. # [15:49] <Callek> ... or you might even get better help (though at this time on a weekend unlikely to get better responsiveness) in #introduction
650. # [15:49] <_Michael_21> ok - thans
651. # [15:49] <_Michael_21> What do you mean with source from hg?
652. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> That's all explained on the wiki page
653. # [15:50] <_Michael_21> ok - thanks
654. # [15:50] <Yoric> _Michael_21: You should join us on #introduction.
655. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> hg/mercurial is our version control system
656. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> Yoric, he has! :)
657. # [15:50] <_Michael_21> I do
658. # [15:50] <Yoric> :)
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660. # [15:59] <Matti> hmm, why I'm banned from #introduction ?
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662. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> It's on *!*chatzilla@*.dip.t-dialin.net, from last April
663. # [16:03] <Matti> great, a general bad on the biggest german provider
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668. # [16:05] <Matti> s/bad/ban
669. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> Matti, pff, Germans ;)
670. # [16:05] * Yoric thought Matti was connecting from Austria.
671. # [16:06] <Yoric> (not that it changes anything to the issue :) )
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673. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> Nah, Michael is
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675. # [16:11] <_Michael_21> Michael is Austria *g*
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699. # [16:57] <sawrubh> _Michael_21: check this out : https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Simple_Firefox_build
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744. # [17:44] <@smaug> evilpie: review feature?
745. # [17:44] <@smaug> you mean bugzilla's review?
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747. # [17:45] <@smaug> I'm not going to change my habits any time soon ;) I review plenty enough patches that I need to do it the way it is fastest and easiest for me. Sorry.
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749. # [17:46] <@smaug> but I'll investigate whether I could live with bugzilla review tool
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765. # [18:04] <Optimizer> smaug: since you are here
766. # [18:05] <Optimizer> I am facing a keyboard event problem
767. # [18:05] <Optimizer> no idea if it is by specification or a bug in Firefox
768. # [18:05] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: ping?
769. # [18:05] <@smaug> Optimizer: tell
770. # [18:05] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: hi
771. # [18:05] <Optimizer> press Alt, keydown is triggered, press 'R' while keeping Alt pressed again keydown,
772. # [18:05] <@smaug> (There is no spec for the key events currently used in the web)
773. # [18:06] <Optimizer> remove R while keeping Alt pressed, keyup and keypress
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775. # [18:06] <Optimizer> now remove Alt, no key event
776. # [18:06] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: so in that b2g issue, it is certainly attempting to display the slow script warning, but nothing ever gets displayed
777. # [18:07] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: and instead, the browser just gets caught in a loop waiting for the user to respond
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779. # [18:07] <mjrosenb> which he can't do because there isn't a dialog box to click/tap on
780. # [18:07] <@smaug> Optimizer: when I release Alt, I get key up
781. # [18:08] <jez> Does anyone here know about the CSS3 flexbox model? I have a question about this page: http://game-point.net/misc/browserTests/scratchpads/fullTableCellHeight/indexFlex.htm
782. # [18:08] <Optimizer> weird
783. # [18:08] <@smaug> Optimizer: which OS?
784. # [18:08] <jez> why does the "test" cell on the right not stretch vertically to the full height of the row?
785. # [18:08] <Optimizer> so you have these keys pressed in order
786. # [18:08] <Optimizer> Windows 7
787. # [18:08] <@smaug> Optimizer: Alt down, R down, R up, Alt up
788. # [18:08] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: That's a bug in the browser, I'd guess. Which is strange, because I ran v8 a week ago and got the slow script warning displayed.
789. # [18:08] <Optimizer> smaug: you have Alt key pressed throughout the time, right ?
790. # [18:08] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: I don't think it's "stuck in a loop", though
791. # [18:09] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: It's just in a nested even tloop.
792. # [18:09] <Optimizer> smaug: yeah, for me Alt up do nothing
793. # [18:09] <Optimizer> smaug: which OS ?
794. # [18:09] <@smaug> Linux
795. # [18:10] <Optimizer> also, there is so much inconsistency b/w keyup and keydown and keypress
796. # [18:10] <Optimizer> in terms of what value their keyCode property has
797. # [18:11] <Optimizer> keypress has small r while keyup/down has big
798. # [18:11] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: and this was on b2g's browser?
799. # [18:11] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: yes
800. # [18:12] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: strange.
801. # [18:12] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: It very well could have broken.
802. # [18:12] <Optimizer> smaug: and one last thing, when I do R down after Alt down, I get keypress event but no keydown event
803. # [18:12] <@smaug> Optimizer: keydown/up have keyCode, keyPress has charCode
804. # [18:12] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: well, not stuck in a loop, but waiting for an event of some sort almost certainly
805. # [18:12] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: Yeah, that's exactly what it's doing.
806. # [18:13] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: this bug is quite old, it is also possible that it has been fixed
807. # [18:13] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: It's waiting for a response to the prompt.
808. # [18:13] <mjrosenb> but I think I synced recently
809. # [18:13] <jlebar|mac> Well, I don't have a working device to test on. You should cc :benfrancis and dale@arandom.
810. # [18:13] <mjrosenb> how do I get the rev of a b2g directory?
811. # [18:14] <Optimizer> smaug: why is that ? I mean both the values keyCode and charCode could be same, instead of having a case difference ?
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813. # [18:14] <@smaug> keyCode depends on whatever OS happens to give us
814. # [18:14] <@smaug> depends on key layout and what not
815. # [18:14] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: git show, or git log -n1
816. # [18:14] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: But keep in mind that you want the revs of the /gecko/ and /gaia/ directories, not the root b2g dir.
817. # [18:15] <mjrosenb> Date: Thu Nov 29 09:40:52 2012 -0500
818. # [18:15] <Optimizer> smaug: so then the charCode of keyup/down could be made consistent with that of the corresponding keypress event ?
819. # [18:15] <mjrosenb> yeah, I ran this in gecko/dom/browser-element
820. # [18:15] <mjrosenb> because that is where I happened to be
821. # [18:15] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: It's also helpful to phrase your cset as a URL, instead of just as a hash, since we have many different repositories.
822. # [18:15] <@smaug> Optimizer: don't understand
823. # [18:15] <Optimizer> I mean
824. # [18:15] <Optimizer> the charCode of keyup/down is undefined
825. # [18:16] <Optimizer> so there is some inconsistency within one keyflow
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827. # [18:16] <@smaug> Optimizer: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#legacy-key-attributes has some information
828. # [18:17] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: is there a nice way to get git to do that? (I don't actually know what the base of the url should be)
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830. # [18:17] <@smaug> Optimizer: we don't know yet during keydown what the charCode would be
831. # [18:17] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: Not that I know of.
832. # [18:17] <@smaug> Optimizer: key events are a big mess
833. # [18:17] <Optimizer> true
834. # [18:18] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: There are only a few possible URLs; see git remote -v
835. # [18:18] <@smaug> hopefully D3E events will help there, but seems like there is even more to fix
836. # [18:18] <Optimizer> when I show the key pressed, it feels so inconsistent
837. # [18:18] <Optimizer> that the keyup has '' whiel keypress has 'R'
838. # [18:18] <Optimizer> keyup -> 'r'
839. # [18:18] <mjrosenb> mozilla git://github.com/mozilla/releases-mozilla-central (push)
840. # [18:18] <Optimizer> in my Timeline
841. # [18:18] <mjrosenb> oh god, what happens when we push there?
842. # [18:18] <@smaug> Optimizer:well you're reporting different things
843. # [18:18] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: We never push there.
844. # [18:18] <@smaug> keyCode != charCode
845. # [18:18] <@smaug> they are about different things
846. # [18:18] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: We have an automated tool which pushes there, from hg.
847. # [18:19] <Optimizer> yeah, but otherwise, keyup has nothing else
848. # [18:19] <Optimizer> to report
849. # [18:19] <Optimizer> do you have any suggestions ?
850. # [18:19] <@smaug> you report keyCode
851. # [18:19] <@smaug> and you report charCode
852. # [18:20] <@smaug> they are different things, and both are useful to know
853. # [18:20] <mjrosenb> jlebar|mac: I know we push to there, but I was rather scared when I saw that as a push target.
854. # [18:20] <Optimizer> but neither keyup has charcode, not keypress has keycode
855. # [18:20] <Optimizer> no be ocnsistent
856. # [18:20] <Optimizer> :|
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858. # [18:20] <jlebar|mac> mjrosenb: It is unlikely that you have permission to push there.
859. # [18:21] <@smaug> Optimizer: that is the consistency. keypress reports the value relevant to keypress
860. # [18:21] <@smaug> keydown/up report the value relevant to those events
861. # [18:21] <mjrosenb> that is good.
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863. # [18:22] <Optimizer> smaug: so no way I can have those three output the same value ?
864. # [18:23] <Optimizer> anyways, nothing can be done here . about the keyup not firing on Alt up, and also keydown not firing on R down. Should I file bugs ?
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866. # [18:23] <@smaug> thinking... only keypress may report non-zero charCode, since it doesn't make sense with keydown/up
867. # [18:24] <mjrosenb> ok, it looks like my gecko was taken from this revision: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85471409cbfb
868. # [18:24] <@smaug> Optimizer: yes, file a bug
869. # [18:24] <@smaug> cc me and masayuki
870. # [18:24] <Optimizer> did you get a keydown on R down ?
871. # [18:24] <@smaug> yes
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873. # [18:25] <@smaug> Optimizer: I assume you're using Nightly
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880. # [18:30] <@smaug> Optimizer: hey
881. # [18:30] <@smaug> Optimizer: make sure focus isn't changing
882. # [18:30] <@smaug> Optimizer: perhaps we have some shortcut for alt+r on windows
883. # [18:30] <@smaug> or something like that
884. # [18:31] <Optimizer> no focus change
885. # [18:31] <Optimizer> also, I do get a keydown on R down
886. # [18:31] <Optimizer> so only alt up has issues
887. # [18:31] <Optimizer> I tried focusing my timeline also
888. # [18:31] <Optimizer> and also some text boxes
889. # [18:31] <Optimizer> let me try any other key
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891. # [18:32] <Optimizer> same with any key
892. # [18:33] <Optimizer> its just that the R up and R press events are triggered at the same time, so i could not see them via timeline
893. # [18:33] <Optimizer> but using console logging I was able to see keydown for R down
894. # [18:34] <@smaug> Optimizer: ok, I can reproduce the problem with alt keyup missing
895. # [18:34] <@smaug> on win7
896. # [18:34] <Optimizer> Ah :)
897. # [18:34] <Optimizer> filed 817405
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899. # [18:35] <Optimizer> will have to see if its is only Alt specific
900. # [18:35] <Optimizer> yup alt specific
901. # [18:35] <Optimizer> ctrl and shift both emit
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906. # [18:37] <Optimizer> if it is fixed, it will make my accesskey logic smooth
907. # [18:37] <Optimizer> :)
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909. # [18:38] <Optimizer> (for my icon-only toolbar buttons, I want to show a character on the button while the Alt key is pressed)
910. # [18:38] <Optimizer> (so no alt up event means that I do not clear the character and do not bring back the icon :P )
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913. # [18:40] <Callek> khuey++
914. # [18:40] <Callek> khuey: now get a shot from inside the subway station
915. # [18:40] <Callek> :-)
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919. # [18:45] <Optimizer> smaug: on Linux, the Alt key is not used for accesskeys ?
920. # [18:47] <Optimizer> and WOW on the fact that keyboard events are still a draft
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922. # [18:49] <@smaug> Optimizer: alt+* is used for things like opening the file menu
923. # [18:49] <Optimizer> so ther eare no accesskeys for the menu bar on top of Firefox ?
924. # [18:50] <Yoric> Still a draft? Wow + 1.
925. # [18:50] <@smaug> Optimizer: don't understand the question
926. # [18:51] <Optimizer> can you do this :
927. # [18:51] <Optimizer> Alt + T -> opens tools menu ?
928. # [18:51] <@smaug> yes
929. # [18:52] <Optimizer> so usage of alt is same
930. # [18:52] <@smaug> if one uses accesskey in web pages, it requires shift+alt+*
931. # [18:52] <Optimizer> in webpages - yes
932. # [18:52] <Optimizer> but in native xuls, only Alt is required
933. # [18:52] <@smaug> well, at least for those
934. # [18:53] <@smaug> then there are shortcut keys too
935. # [18:53] <@smaug> like ctrl+r
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939. # [18:53] <Optimizer> yes, that all is fine
940. # [18:53] <Optimizer> I was concerned that a different usage od Alt might be the cause of that behavior of no Alt up event
941. # [18:53] <Optimizer> s/od/of
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955. # [19:12] <@khuey> Callek: it's closed
956. # [19:12] <Callek> ok, makes sense
957. # [19:12] <Callek> is all of SF really bad, or is it just a temp, brief type of thing
958. # [19:13] <@khuey> it's pretty wet all over
959. # [19:13] <Callek> as in, "relatively normal, with just a strong storm" or "omg wtf we're gonna die"
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961. # [19:13] <@khuey> oh we're not going to die
962. # [19:13] <Callek> haha
963. # [19:13] <@khuey> strong storms aren't normal though
964. # [19:13] <Optimizer> shit!
965. # [19:13] <Callek> of course, SF is hilly enough
966. # [19:14] <@khuey> yeah my apartment is on a 200 foot hill
967. # [19:14] <@khuey> no flooding for me
968. # [19:14] <@khuey> and that subway station is at the base of that hill :-P
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970. # [19:16] <jcranmer|away> well, it doesn't sound as bad as Sandy
971. # [19:16] <@khuey> yeah no storm surge
972. # [19:16] <jcranmer|away> of course, I was in Hawaii just before Sandy hit and got hit with a tsunami instead
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992. # [19:36] <abr> What is the indicator I should look for on the try servers to know that a build/test cycle is completely finished?
993. # [19:37] <_Michael_21> Hello - please help! I get this message by the building process: nssutil.def:1: syntax error in VERSION script ! How I can fix this bug?
994. # [19:37] <abr> I'm looking at the tinderbox, and the jumble of letters and numbers are a bit arcane...
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996. # [19:39] <mbrubeck> abr: Unfortunately there's no real indication that a build is finished (in fact, you can trigger additional jobs on it at any time)
997. # [19:39] <mbrubeck> abr: But if there are no builds in the "pending" or "running" states then it is probably finished.
998. # [19:40] <abr> Thanks!
999. # [19:40] <mbrubeck> looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7dba854bc2e3 for example, all of the gray items are still running
1000. # [19:40] <mbrubeck> and when the Windows builds ("B") finish, they will trigger a bunch of new test jobs too
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1005. # [19:41] <abr> Okay, thanks. Is there some wiki page that documents the key for the letters and colors?
1006. # [19:41] <mbrubeck> abr: Click on "help" in the top left, or press "?" on your keyboard.
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1008. # [19:41] <abr> Perfect! That's exxactly what I wanted.
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1025. # [20:05] <@smaug> NeilAway: gavin: ping
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1028. # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bd72ae8aaff - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 760036 - SearchService metadata I/O is now off main thread. r=enndeakin
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1031. # [20:10] <@smaug> or who might remember where we have the drop event listener for urls? I mean the one which ends up loading url in a tab
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1036. # [20:11] <Callek> smaug: I *think* the drop event listener for the content area, vs url-input vs tab-bar is all different handlers
1037. # [20:12] <Callek> at least it was different about 1.5-2.5 years ago when I last looked
1038. # [20:12] <@smaug> I'm interested in the one for content area
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1040. # [20:14] <Callek> smaug: iirc its http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#2971
1041. # [20:14] <Callek> gavin would be able to tell me if I'm waaay off base though
1042. # [20:14] <@smaug> or http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/browser.xml#1264
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1056. # [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b4151d4d695 - Gavin Sharp - Fix whitespace nit from bug 760036's 1bd72ae8aaff
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1062. # [20:36] <@gavin> smaug: pong
1063. # [20:36] <@smaug> gavin: I guess http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/contentAreaDropListener.js is the place where we handle drop
1064. # [20:37] <@smaug> (I think it is missing few event.defaultPrevented checks)
1065. # [20:37] <@smaug> gavin: I'm changing event handling so that event do propagate from disabled form controls to chrome
1066. # [20:37] <@smaug> and one test breaks
1067. # [20:38] <@gavin> drop on the content area, yes
1068. # [20:38] <@gavin> there are various other places where we handle drops on other UI pieces (search for browserDragAndDrop.drop)
1069. # [20:38] <@smaug> content part is the interesting in this case
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1071. # [20:39] <@smaug> the change is rather risky, so I want to land it asap to get enough testing
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1073. # [20:41] <@gavin> smaug: what's the motivation for the change, ooc?
1074. # [20:41] <@smaug> to get sane event handling
1075. # [20:42] <@smaug> I had to add a hack for b2g for this
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1077. # [20:42] <Callek> smaug: can you be sure NeilAway is CC'ed on the bug -- so we can at least try to catch if SeaMonkey needs a change :-)
1078. # [20:42] * Callek would ask for a CC, but for a change needing that much tribal knowledge, I'd rather just let neil decide :-)
1079. # [20:42] <@smaug> NeilAway is the one who has been asking for this change for years, and he is CC'ed
1080. # [20:43] <Callek> ahhhh even better!
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1086. # [20:49] <@smaug> gavin: ping
1087. # [20:49] <@smaug> gavin: where do we actually add the drop event listener?
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1090. # [20:51] <@gavin> smaug: via XBL?
1091. # [20:52] <@smaug> ah, it is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/browser.xml#1264 then
1092. # [20:52] <@gavin> yes
1093. # [20:52] <@smaug> for some reason I can't find the relevant droppedLinkHandler
1094. # [20:52] <@gavin> smaug: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/tabbrowser.xml#1386
1095. # [20:53] <@gavin> i.e. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#5384
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1097. # [20:53] <@smaug> gavin: thanks
1098. # [20:53] <@gavin> kind of confusing naming
1099. # [20:54] <@gavin> separate from the nsIDroppedLinkHandler that is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/contentAreaDropListener.js
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1101. # [20:54] <@gavin> (seamonkey has their own handler, presumably)
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1103. # [20:58] <jez> Does anyone here know about the CSS3 flexbox model? I have a question about this page: http://game-point.net/misc/browserTests/scratchpads/fullTableCellHeight/indexFlex.htm
1104. # [20:58] <jez> why does the "test" cell on the right not stretch vertically to the full height of the row?
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1108. # [21:05] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I bet your right, and I'm sure there are plenty of other nonoptimal uses of our strings around :/
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1112. # [21:10] <jez> YOU'RE
1113. # [21:10] <jez> not your.........
1114. # [21:10] <jez> god damn why is it soooo hard to get that right?
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1119. # [21:16] <jcranmer> jez: "should of" is the one that makes my blood boil
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1121. # [21:16] <jez> yeah but if anything "your" is more widespread now.
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1124. # [21:17] <jez> it's so easy to frigging get right. all you need to know is whether you want the possessive
1125. # [21:17] <derf> jez: I'm as anal-retentive as the next guy, and I still get it wrong all the time.
1126. # [21:18] <jez> well. I don't. ever/
1127. # [21:18] <derf> I used to pride myself on the grammer and spelling of my communication, but something between my brain and my fingers has been disconnected in the past few years.
1128. # [21:18] <jez> it's not an easy typo even
1129. # [21:18] <jez> grammer?
1130. # [21:18] <derf> Exactly.
1131. # [21:19] <jcranmer> I have a variable latency IRC connection
1132. # [21:20] <jcranmer> so I don't bother to correct mistakes I make
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1134. # [21:20] <derf> I don't even realize I make them, even if I read what I wrote.
1135. # [21:20] <tbsaunde> glandium: ping
1136. # [21:21] <glandium> tbsaunde: pong
1137. # [21:21] <jez> derf: well maybe you should be looking into dementia treatment or something
1138. # [21:21] <derf> jez: Maybe!
1139. # [21:21] <jez> generally people don't get significantly worse at language as they aeg
1140. # [21:21] <jez> age
1141. # [21:21] <derf> I know at least one very smart guy who has this same problem much, much worse than I do.
1142. # [21:21] <tbsaunde> glandium: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=0d2b2b1018a7&tochange=a253800d2e57 is getting blaimed for adding a static initializer any idea why?
1143. # [21:22] <jcranmer> jez: also, tbsaunde's blind, so...
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1145. # [21:22] <glandium> tbsaunde: did you look at the graph? the mails are always wrong for the static initializers
1146. # [21:23] <tbsaunde> glandium: no, oh, thanks
1147. # [21:23] <tbsaunde> could we like fix that? since presumably someone else who should have didn't get mail
1148. # [21:23] <derf> jez: The really fun one is that I will leave verbs unconjugated. I think with them properly conjugated, but that's not what I type.
1149. # [21:23] <derf> I don't even know what that means.
1150. # [21:24] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: thanks, but I think its more related to my total ignorance of grammer :)
1151. # [21:24] <jcranmer> jez: also, the human brain is quite good at autocorrecting mistakes
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1157. # [21:26] <jez> jcranmer: yes, but autocorrect actually changes what you wrote
1158. # [21:26] <jez> my brain has to keep autocorrecting every time it sees a silly mistake
1159. # [21:26] <glandium> tbsaunde: i've opened a bug about that a while ago
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1163. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4077b03b8c26 - Dale Harvey - Bug 814163 - Populate most-recent table with existing sms data. r=bent, a=akeybl
1164. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/23ecb5bfb367 - Mark Hammond - Bug 815000 - Fix social sizePanelToContent args in error conditions. r=felipe, a=akeybl
1165. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/39f686efe388 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 816871 - Re-land m-c changeset 2d34880dfdef which was inadvertently reverted on m-b. r=ferjm, a=blocking-basecamp
1166. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/43f9c25bf7a7 - Mark Hammond - Bug 804591 - Opening an existing chat window should restore it if minimized. r=jaws, a=akeybl
1167. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cdf68610254e - Makoto Kato - Bug 813834 - Character corruption on Facebook messenger with Social API. r=jaws, a=akeybl
1168. # [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2b31036aab8c - Tim Taubert - Bug 811953 - [keyboard] Submitting a form from a text field with the keyboard up persists the keyboard. r=vingtetun, a=blocking-basecamp
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1173. # [21:36] <RyanVM> gavin: bug 760036 isn't going to stick
1174. # [21:36] <RyanVM> the bc failure that showed on the Try run is happening on inbound too
1175. # [21:37] <@gavin> ok
1176. # [21:37] <@gavin> do you want me to back it out?
1177. # [21:38] <@gavin> hrm, linux64 only?
1178. # [21:38] <@gavin> that's a puzzler
1179. # [21:38] <@gavin> Yoric is the best at hitting all the weird oranges
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1182. # [21:39] <RyanVM> gavin: I think the rc failures soon to come are real too ;)
1183. # [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3656ad584ae7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 2b4151d4d695 and 1bd72ae8aaff (bug 760036) for test failures.
1184. # [21:40] <@gavin> yeah certainly looks like it
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1187. # [21:40] <cpearce> can metrofox be built from mozilla central, or must I still use Elm? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Windows_8_Integration#Building_Locallysays I need to check out Elm...
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1189. # [21:41] <@gavin> cpearce: I think most of it hasn't landed yet and is still on elm
1190. # [21:42] <cpearce> gavin: ok, thanks.
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1204. # [22:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a12cd43e6e02 - Tom Schuster - Bug 676619 - Implementation of the download attribute for links. r=smaug
1205. # [22:02] <cpearce> Is there a configure option to ensure that the msvcrt DLLs are included in a "make package" operation? I seem to recall seeing it somewhere, but can't find it now.
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1208. # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d707df27a06b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 817417 - Remove unused strings from aboutPrivateBrowsing.dtd; r=jdm
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1241. # [22:48] <tanvi> smaug: ping
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1244. # [22:49] <@smaug> tanvi: pong
1245. # [22:49] <@smaug> tanvi: I had just minor nits, but would like to see still a new patch. :)
1246. # [22:49] <tanvi> i'm not sure what you mean about your last review comment
1247. # [22:49] <tanvi> "security.mixed_content.block_active_content obviously should block
1248. # [22:49] <tanvi> hasMixedActiveContentLoaded, not set it true.
1249. # [22:49] <tanvi> Fix the comment.
1250. # [22:49] <tanvi> "
1251. # [22:50] <@smaug> ah
1252. # [22:50] <@smaug> tanvi: so "block" should mean the mixed active content isn't allowed, right?
1253. # [22:50] <tanvi> if the user overrides the blocking or security.mixed_content.block_active_content is set to false, and mixed active content is about to load, the flag shoudl be set to true
1254. # [22:51] <@smaug> I just want some clarification to the comment
1255. # [22:51] <@smaug> that when security.mixed_content.block_active_content is set to false, that property returns true
1256. # [22:51] <tanvi> yeah. if security.mixed_content.block_active_content is set to true, we block. if it is set to false, we dont' block, but still want to know that mixed active content was loaded
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1258. # [22:52] <tanvi> okay
1259. # [22:52] <@smaug> tanvi: so could you clarify the comment a bit
1260. # [22:52] <tanvi> yeah
1261. # [22:52] <tanvi> thanks!
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1265. # [22:56] <tanvi> how is this?
1266. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * This attribute determines whether Mixed Active Content is loaded on the
1267. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * httpChannel. When it is true, mixed active content was not blocked and has
1268. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * loaded on the page. When it is false, mixed active content has not loaded on
1269. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * the page, either because there was no mixed active content requests on the page
1270. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * or such requests were blocked by nsMixedContentBlocker.cpp.
1271. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * This boolean is set to true in nsMixedContentBlocker.cpp if Mixed Active Content
1272. # [22:56] <tanvi> + * is allowed (either explicitly on the page by the user or when the about:config
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1274. # [22:57] <Yoric> gavin: RyanVM: I will investigate this.
1275. # [22:58] <RyanVM> Yoric: good luck :)
1276. # [22:59] <Yoric> :)
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1278. # [23:00] <RyanVM> Yoric: BTW, cases like yours are also why I typically retrigger failed jobs on Try even if they match a known intermittent failure so that it can be caught when making it go from random to permanent
1279. # [23:00] <Yoric> good point
1280. # [23:01] <Yoric> Still, time to call this a night.
1281. # [23:01] <Yoric> Bye.
1282. # [23:01] <RyanVM> ttyl
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1285. # [23:06] <@smaug> NeilAway: thanks for testing
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1294. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a0696abb60c - Karl Tomlinson - b=813997 keep window max size to 16 bits r=roc
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1298. # [23:21] <@smaug> NeilAway: would it be too ugly is disabled form controls would call preventDefault on contentmenu event
1299. # [23:21] <@smaug> for now
1300. # [23:21] <@roc> Sync isn't working and all my bookmarks have disappeared. I wonder if these are connected
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1302. # [23:21] <@smaug> NeilAway: and once I convert events to use paris bindings, add chrome only flag to indicated whether the event was disabled in content
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1306. # [23:22] <@smaug> roc: I'd ask mconnor
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1328. # [23:47] <NeilAway> smaug: no, I'd say that it's up to the front end to handle context menus on disabled form controls appropriately
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1330. # [23:47] <@smaug> NeilAway: k
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1332. # [23:47] <@smaug> NeilAway: need to just then fix front end
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1335. # [23:48] <NeilAway> smaug: although, I notice that we don't try to show a context menu for non-textual form controls already, so we could hook into that
1336. # [23:48] <@smaug> ah
1337. # [23:49] <@smaug> NeilAway: the problem is that it is not so easy to check whether form control is disabled
1338. # [23:49] <@smaug> well, there are 3 thing
1339. # [23:49] <@smaug> s
1340. # [23:49] <@smaug> .disabled
1341. # [23:49] <@smaug> or -user-input style
1342. # [23:50] <NeilAway> smaug: well, the other way is to see whether it's focused ;-)
1343. # [23:50] <@smaug> and there are two values for that which may disable the control
1344. # [23:50] <@smaug> disabling form control doesn't un-focus it automatically
1345. # [23:50] <@smaug> at least not now
1346. # [23:50] <NeilAway> ooh, I didn't try context menus in composer
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1349. # [23:55] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, so success with context menus - even when enabled it's a left-right-click process for some reason, but that does work when the control is disabled too
1350. # [23:55] <NeilAway> smaug: (in composer)
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1353. # [23:57] <NeilAway> smaug: hmm, does this mean that you can tab away from a control that was disabled by script, or was that handled elsewhere already?
1354. # [23:58] <NeilAway> sounds like something the esm did without using the dom event
1355. # [23:58] <@smaug> yeah
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