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  1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 03 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  4. # [00:01] <@smaug> NeilAway: is there anything like nsContentUtils for front end code?
  5. # [00:01] <@smaug> something where I could put few helper methods
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  8. # [00:08] <NeilAway> smaug: contentAreaUtils.js perhaps?
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  10. # [00:12] <@smaug> NeilAway: actually I think some .cpp thing would be needed
  11. # [00:12] <@smaug> I need to add some helpers to handle native-anon etc
  12. # [00:12] <@smaug> but I'll think about this tomorrow :)
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  14. # [00:13] <zimio> how do i debug idl code in firefox?
  15. # [00:13] <jcranmer> IDL has no code
  16. # [00:13] <zimio> what do you mean?
  17. # [00:13] <zimio> ah, sorry
  18. # [00:13] <@smaug> idl just describes interfaces
  19. # [00:14] <zimio> i meant Javascript code
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  23. # [00:14] <zimio> i have never built firefox before
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  25. # [00:15] <zimio> there is some code I'm interested in modifying, but it is on javascript
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  27. # [00:15] <zimio> what tool should I use and how should I build firefox so that I can debug it?
  28. # [00:17] <@smaug> build ff the way mdn tells you to build it
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  30. # [00:18] <zimio> and to debug javascript code?
  31. # [00:18] * @smaug is not sure about the best way to debug chrome js, since he hacks usually only C++ code
  32. # [00:18] <@smaug> simple way is to add some dump() calls
  33. # [00:19] <zimio> i would like a breakpoint to step through it
  34. # [00:19] <@smaug> yeah, I certainly don't know the status of chrome js debuggers
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  37. # [00:26] <Fallen> I heard there is firebug+chromebug, but I've never tried it
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  41. # [00:31] <nthomas> RyanVM: ping
  42. # [00:31] <RyanVM> nthomas: pong
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  44. # [00:32] <nthomas> RyanVM: I was wondering what happens in practice when someone uses https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8cab8f873f84. Do the builds fail in configure, require a manual clobber and rebuild ?
  45. # [00:32] <RyanVM> i don't know, tbh
  46. # [00:33] <RyanVM> but i think so, yes
  47. # [00:33] <nthomas> so your merge https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=ecdf0e332f17 you'd clobbered before the merge landed ?
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  50. # [00:35] <RyanVM> yes, but it was kinda by dumb luck
  51. # [00:35] <singerb> I'm getting a crash in a mochitest, and it's making a mini dump, but then saying "MINIDUMP_STACKWALK not set, can't process dump" - do we build the analysis part of breakpad as part of the tree, and if so, where can I find it?
  52. # [00:35] <nthomas> ok
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  56. # [00:38] <nthomas> singerb: the test jobs on tbpl use the utility in http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/default/breakpad/
  57. # [00:39] <nthomas> set MINIDUMP_STACKWALK to the full path to wherever you put the right file
  58. # [00:40] <nthomas> not sure where it will find your symbols if it's your own build
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  61. # [00:43] <singerb> nthomas: ok thanks, I'll give that a try
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  93. # [01:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f77bad5734a3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806720 - Rewrite the browser_styleeditor_private_perwindow.js test according to the latest changes to the style editor test suite; shoulder-r=jdm
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  103. # [01:41] <jez> Does anyone here know about the CSS3 flexbox model? I have a question about this page: http://game-point.net/misc/browserTests/scratchpads/fullTableCellHeight/indexFlex.htm
  104. # [01:41] <jez> why does the "test" cell on the right not stretch vertically to the full height of the row?
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  135. # [02:26] <markh> what do people think about adding a Cu.reportException(message, exception) function? It would be similar to Cu.reportError(), although it could support dumping richer info about the exception (eg, the stack). It seems nicer than the pattern I end up using of something like Cu.reportError("Failed to do something: " + ex + ex.stack)
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  140. # [02:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05865f2b8171 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806690 - Cancel the current browser load to make sure that we don't catch unexpected load events for about:home; shoulder-r=jdm
  141. # [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a032b7e86bbf - Anthony Jones - Bug 798194 - Fix problem with resizing the composition bounds. r=roc
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  143. # [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48a328e1c467 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
  144. # [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f77bad5734a3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806720 - Rewrite the browser_styleeditor_private_perwindow.js test according to the latest changes to the style editor test suite; shoulder-r=jdm
  145. # [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f28b307848c9 - Anthony Jones - Bug 798194 - Fix repaint request re-ordering bug. r=roc
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  154. # [02:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d4a0fcdf66ee - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 05865f2b8171 (bug 806690) because it was not effective
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  269. # [04:44] <@dbaron> nattokirai, pong
  270. # [04:45] <nattokirai> dbaron: wondering about the visual model for letter-spacing
  271. # [04:45] <nattokirai> dbaron: did you see the posts?
  272. # [04:45] <mjrosenb> dbaron: re: comment made yesterday, JIRA's bug system already supports the "reply to email to post a comment" feature, even though the emails that they send out say "don't reply to this email"
  273. # [04:45] <@dbaron> nattokirai, saw, yes. read closely, no
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  275. # [04:46] <nattokirai> dbaron: just wondering if there's some other place where how letter-spacing is included in inline boxes is mentioned/defined...
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  277. # [04:46] <@dbaron> nattokirai, other than?
  278. # [04:47] <nattokirai> dbaron: css3 text and css 2.1 are pretty spartan
  279. # [04:47] <@dbaron> nattokirai, css 2.1 certainly is; css3-text has a bit more, but I'm not convinced it's insufficient
  280. # [04:49] <nattokirai> well, assume letter-spacing is 50px for an entire document
  281. # [04:49] <nattokirai> and spans have a bg color of red
  282. # [04:49] <nattokirai> A<span>B</span>C
  283. # [04:49] <nattokirai> how are the spaces between A, B, and C colored?
  284. # [04:50] <@dbaron> nattokirai, none of them are red
  285. # [04:50] <@dbaron> nattokirai, because of:
  286. # [04:50] <@dbaron> nattokirai, "spacing between two characters is given by and rendered within the innermost element that contains the boundary"
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  288. # [04:50] <@dbaron> though I suppose "rendered within" doesn't explicitly preclude it being rendered within something more deeply nested
  289. # [04:50] <nattokirai> sure, but letter-spacing is set to 50px for the entire document
  290. # [04:50] <@dbaron> I think that's pretty clearly the intent
  291. # [04:51] <@dbaron> right, so "given by" isn't interesting
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  293. # [04:51] <nattokirai> "rendered within" doesn't specify right/left/split across both sides
  294. # [04:52] <@dbaron> I think what that "rendered within" intends to say is that the letter spacing is rendered within that element but not within any of its descendants
  295. # [04:52] <@dbaron> what do you mean by right/left/split?
  296. # [04:52] <nrc> dbaron: do you have minute for a question about bug 788409
  297. # [04:52] <nrc> ?
  298. # [04:52] <@dbaron> nrc, sure
  299. # [04:52] <@dbaron> nrc, sorry for the delay getting to those reviews; hopefully tomorrow
  300. # [04:52] <nattokirai> see http://people.mozilla.org/~jdaggett/tests/letterspacing-distribution.html
  301. # [04:53] <nattokirai> right now all user agents put the spacing on the right of letters
  302. # [04:53] <nattokirai> in the firefox case, it's the trailing edge
  303. # [04:53] <nrc> dbaron: thanks. The patch removes code to remove animations from the compositor, where does that happen now? or is it not needed?
  304. # [04:53] <@dbaron> nattokirai, which the spec says is wrong
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  307. # [04:54] <nattokirai> dbaron: i don't see how that's either right or wrong by the current css3 text wording
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  309. # [04:54] <nattokirai> dbaron: it's completely unspecified
  310. # [04:54] <@dbaron> nrc, hmmm... I'd think something needs to remove the animations from the compositor
  311. # [04:55] <@dbaron> nattokirai, I think that's what the "rendered within" bit is saying
  312. # [04:55] <nattokirai> dbaron: the spacing is "rendered within" the span containing the B
  313. # [04:55] <@dbaron> nattokirai, but since it's on the boundary between that span and its parent, it should be rendered within the parent rather than the span
  314. # [04:56] <nattokirai> ah, right you are
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  317. # [04:57] <@dbaron> nattokirai, it could be worded better, but it's there
  318. # [04:57] <nattokirai> dbaron, so you would say the wording also covers the bidi case?
  319. # [04:58] <nattokirai> dbaron, i.e. A<span>bet 123</span>C
  320. # [04:58] <nattokirai> which produces a visual ordering of A 1 2 3 bet C
  321. # [04:59] <@dbaron> nattokirai, I think it does, although it probably wouldn't hurt to say that it's specifying the letter spacing after reordering (which I think could be considered implied by "between")
  322. # [05:00] <@dbaron> nrc, maybe when an animation stops (on the main thread), can we see if there's a layer and if so, remove the animations from it... or something like that?
  323. # [05:02] <nrc> dbaron: main == compositor or content?
  324. # [05:03] <@dbaron> nrc, content
  325. # [05:03] <@dbaron> nrc, that's "the main thread"
  326. # [05:05] <nrc> dbaron: I think we need to do something on the compositor too - I think (trying to confirm) I have a bug, because of leftover animations on the compositor - they get overridden by the main thread, but in the meantime something is going wrong, just trying to figure out exactly what,
  327. # [05:05] <@dbaron> nrc, cjones/dz/I intentionally patched things a week or so ago
  328. # [05:05] <@dbaron> nrc, so that when animations finish on the compositor
  329. # [05:06] <@dbaron> nrc, we just maintain the end state
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  331. # [05:06] <@dbaron> nrc, because that's likely to be the correct state to sit around in until the main thread gets around to updating
  332. # [05:06] <@dbaron> nrc, doing otherwise means that when the main thread is janky, we'll flash to the start state of the animation at the end, which is bad
  333. # [05:07] <@dbaron> nrc, changeset a2858a64fe77
  334. # [05:07] <nrc> dbaron: so, what I am seeing is we get to the end of the animation, sit there for ~6 frames then flash back to ~0.95 of the animation and transition to the end again
  335. # [05:08] <nrc> dbaron: that includes the removed code I asked about earlier
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  339. # [05:09] <nattokirai> dbaron: so effectively what the spec is trying to say is that the spacing between a letter inside and outside a given element is determined by the letter-spacing value of the common parent
  340. # [05:09] <nattokirai> dbaron: and always rendered as part of the parent element
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  342. # [05:10] <@dbaron> nattokirai, yes... and say it in a way that also handles <span>abc</span><span>def</span>
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  344. # [05:10] <@dbaron> nrc, in what sort of testcase? And do you know if the jump back is because the main thread decided to tell the compositor to jump back?
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  348. # [05:11] <nrc> dbaron: test case = opening an app on b2g, I can't recreate on desktop FF
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  350. # [05:12] <nrc> I'm trying to figure out exactly what is happening still
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  358. # [05:15] <nrc> dbaron: as far as I know, the only way the main thread can tell the compositor to jump back would be to set a new animation on the layer. Is that right?
  359. # [05:15] <@dbaron> nrc, that's what I'd think. I can't really claim to being an expert on this, though.
  360. # [05:16] <nrc> I'm pretty sure that is not happening, just rolling another build to double check
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  362. # [05:20] <nattokirai> dbaron: maybe the problem is that "element boundaries" is refers both to the visual model and the DOM structure
  363. # [05:21] <@dbaron> nattokirai, yeah, I just posted http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Dec/0031.html , which sort of covers that in point (3) (though not that particular ambiguity)
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  377. # [05:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0902b7e89928 - Andres Hernandez - Bug 816524 - Do not store information about closed private windows; r=ttaubert
  378. # [05:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b94062c391cc - Mario Alvarado [:marioalv] - Bug 813215 - Port browser_354894.js to the per-window PB APIs; r=ehsan
  379. # [05:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4a0fcdf66ee - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 05865f2b8171 (bug 806690) because it was not effective
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  387. # [05:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97b197902642 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 162e2608bd3c (bug 805299) for breaking debug builds
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  389. # [05:56] <mjrosenb> damn you all, making landing this patch harder :-p
  390. # [05:57] <mjrosenb> oh hey, I should figure out why that last patch broke things...
  391. # [05:59] <mjrosenb> whoops, guess arches other than arm are kind of important :-/
  392. # [05:59] <glob> mjrosenb, hehe
  393. # [05:59] <nbp> mjrosenb: not that much, only windows ;)
  394. # [06:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93f45a98874c - Crypt - Bug 810220 - Patch to fix SDP Codec Negotiation Issues (revised) r=ekr,jesup
  395. # [06:01] <@dbaron> "Crypt"?
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  397. # [06:01] <mjrosenb> oh, I *love* it when there is a build failure inside of a JS_ASSERT
  398. # [06:02] <mjrosenb> it would be sweet if we could always include JS_ASSERT, and be *guaranteed* that the comparison and everything would get DCE'd
  399. # [06:04] <nbp> mjrosenb: how would you handle debug only data?
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  401. # [06:05] <ekr_> crypt == suhas nandakumar
  402. # [06:05] <ekr_> works for cisco
  403. # [06:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b651d7a7ca8a - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 817475 - JM: Remove re-compilation loop. r=bhackett
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  405. # [06:06] <mjrosenb> ekr_: the fact that that is a name is entirely non-obvious.
  406. # [06:07] <ekr_> I'm not disagreeing with that, but I didn't land the patch
  407. # [06:07] <ekr_> Just trying to answer the question
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  409. # [06:08] <mjrosenb> ekr_: I know, just commenting
  410. # [06:08] <mjrosenb> not entirel sure why I directed that at you.
  411. # [06:08] <mjrosenb> *entirely
  412. # [06:08] <ekr_> No worries. :)
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  414. # [06:12] <jesup> dbaron: sorry, it was checkin-needed and I assumed the summary was good. The actual (final) author was :abr (Adam Roach); he probably took over Suhas' patch
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  416. # [06:14] <ekr_> jesup: that's correct.
  417. # [06:14] <ekr_> We probably should have credited both of them.
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  456. # [07:27] <mjrosenb> argh
  457. # [07:27] <mjrosenb> I am not very good at hg
  458. # [07:28] <mjrosenb> hg qpush says "abort local changes found"
  459. # [07:28] <mjrosenb> and hg diff is empty
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  462. # [07:35] <markh> "hg status"?
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  465. # [07:36] <mjrosenb> oh heh
  466. # [07:36] <mjrosenb> something or other aded a couple of random temp files
  467. # [07:36] <mjrosenb> so I rm'ed them
  468. # [07:36] <mjrosenb> but hg was now tracking two non-existent files
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  486. # [08:08] <mjrosenb> wow, there were 17 commits without any pushes to try?
  487. # [08:08] <mjrosenb> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=74df1cca84de
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  506. # [08:28] <glazou> bonjour
  507. # [08:28] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
  508. # [08:29] <glazou> Unfocused: get well soon
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  530. # [09:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9049d8cb3de4 - Makoto Kato - Bug 817481 - Build failure on WebRTC unit test with --with-system-libvpx. r=jesup
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  558. # [09:35] <glandium> interesting, in chinese, firefox is literally fire+fox
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  560. # [09:36] <derf> I mean, you could say the same thing of Firefox in English.
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  562. # [09:36] <mjrosenb> except that a "firefox" is actually a type of panda, which is native to that part of the world, but not to the areas where english was formed
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  565. # [09:39] <glazou> we should have retained the "phoenix" name ;-)
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  570. # [09:43] <NeilAway> markh: I suppose try { throw "Failed to do something"; } catch (ex) { Cu.reportError(ex); } is a little verbose?
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  576. # [10:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b808aa8cb2e - Lucas Rocha - Bug 812867 - Discard invalid favicon images (r=mfinkle)
  577. # [10:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61285b908323 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 807279 - Turn Favicons into a singleton (r=mfinkle)
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  581. # [10:06] <glandium> mjrosenb: and, that type of panda, in chinese, is literally "small bear cat"
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  585. # [10:09] <glandium> interestingly, it looks like the fire+fox form is an alternate name for the red panda in chinese (and bear cat is how they call regular pandas)
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  604. # [10:27] <firebot> Check-in:
  605. # [10:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99c2b45b6668 - Marty Rosenberg - If we attempt to make calls compile -> compile -> jitted code -> compile, we can accidentally attempt to enter jitted code without flushing the cache (bug 805421,
  606. # [10:27] <firebot> r=dvander)
  607. # [10:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a592d7dfb470 - Marty Rosenberg - Attempt to fix the issues by disabling IM when we run into a corner case, now builds on non-arm platforms (bug 805299, r=dvander)
  608. # [10:27] <MrDHat> felipe: I just read about a GSoC 2012 project that allows running native wep apps on linux and found out that you were the mentor of the project'
  609. # [10:27] <MrDHat> Could you please help me find the code repository
  610. # [10:27] <MrDHat> https://wiki.mozilla.org/SummerOfCode/2012/LinuxNativeWebApps
  611. # [10:28] <MrDHat> The link to the application
  612. # [10:29] <mjrosenb> argh.
  613. # [10:29] <mjrosenb> I accidentally just pushed something before it finished building for x86
  614. # [10:29] <mjrosenb> should I back out, or should I fix it now-ish?
  615. # [10:31] <NeilAway> if you know it'll fail then back it out
  616. # [10:32] <mjrosenb> ok, because I have a patch that will fix it, and it is trivial enough that basically anyone can review it
  617. # [10:32] <mjrosenb> in other news
  618. # [10:32] <mjrosenb> how do I back something out? (I've never had to do this before)
  619. # [10:33] <glandium> MrDHat: webapprt/gtk2 in mozilla-central
  620. # [10:33] <glandium> MrDHat: it's part of regular firefox builds
  621. # [10:33] <mjrosenb> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1973534 is the patch that will make things non-red
  622. # [10:33] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: new ISP?
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  624. # [10:34] <glandium> mjrosenb: push that fixup. r=me
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  626. # [10:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5a6495fbff6 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 815156 - B2G RIL: Expose serviceClass to DOM via nsIDOMMozMobileCFInfo. r=ferjm sr=sicking
  627. # [10:36] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, class
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  629. # [10:36] <Ms2ger> Morning, Edgar
  630. # [10:36] <Ms2ger> And edmorley
  631. # [10:36] <edmorley> good morning :-)
  632. # [10:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eab97f318667 - Marty Rosenberg - Add in extra function to build on non-arm platforms (no bug, r=glandium)
  633. # [10:37] <mjrosenb> glandium: thanks.
  634. # [10:37] <MrDHat> glandium: Can you tell me more about this project?
  635. # [10:37] <edmorley> mjrosenb: ah thank you, that saves me next question :-)
  636. # [10:38] <glandium> MrDHat: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/WebRT
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  639. # [10:38] <mjrosenb> tonight has not been a night of clean pushes :/
  640. # [10:38] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ah, so we know where you study?
  641. # [10:39] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, well, do you?
  642. # [10:40] <Edgar> Good morning, Ms2ger :)
  643. # [10:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, so you're teaching the class then? :-P
  644. # [10:40] <Ms2ger> :)
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  658. # [10:50] <NeilAway> Unfocused: so, the addons manager isn't actually in the startup path?
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  662. # [10:53] <glazou> NeilAway: https://twitter.com/theunfocused/status/275470042521538560
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  664. # [10:54] <mjrosenb> ok, silly question
  665. # [10:54] <mjrosenb> 0 libxul.so js::ion::MacroAssemblerARMCompat::linkExitFrame MacroAssembler-arm.cpp:1498
  666. # [10:54] <mjrosenb> what does '1498' mean in this context?
  667. # [10:54] <ewong> can I guess 'line #'?
  668. # [10:55] <Standard8> yeah, line number
  669. # [10:55] <mjrosenb> because linkExitFrame is from line 2572 to 2576
  670. # [10:55] * ewong quietly goes back into the shadows.
  671. # [10:55] <mjrosenb> and 1498 \not \in [2572, 2576]
  672. # [10:55] <Standard8> well it could be out-of-date symbols
  673. # [10:56] <Standard8> or its folded that function in
  674. # [10:56] <mjrosenb> this is the fennec that we're shipping
  675. # [10:56] <Standard8> i.e. inline
  676. # [10:56] <mjrosenb> oh, inlining makes sense
  677. # [10:56] <NeilAway> glazou: oh dear
  678. # [10:56] <NeilAway> Unfocused: get well sooner!
  679. # [10:56] <Standard8> or sometimes, iirc it can just pick up a wrong symbol
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  691. # [11:10] <Yoric> sankha93: From a worker, use |importScripts|. From the main thread, use <script src="...">.
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  693. # [11:11] <sankha93> Yoric: ah.. ok!!
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  737. # [11:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f306df3468d5 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 709433 - Animate toolbar when switching to/from awesome screen (r=mfinkle)
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  739. # [11:56] <edmorley> mjrosenb: android m2 crash on your push, that was green on the run before, and the retrigger on your push came back orange too
  740. # [11:56] <edmorley> mjrosenb: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17551768&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  741. # [11:57] <edmorley> mjrosenb: which cset should I back out, or both?
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  746. # [12:02] <jfkthame> huh, is bugzilla not sending out bugmail properly at the moment?
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  749. # [12:03] <jfkthame> just noticed that someone responded to a comment in one of my bugs yesterday afternoon but bugzilla didn't send me any bugmail about it - that's a bit worrying
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  757. # [12:14] <edmorley> jfkthame: that can happen if they stop the page submission before it completes
  758. # [12:14] <edmorley> the next action causing bugmail on that bug normally causes it to be sent
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  760. # [12:15] <jfkthame> i did get bugmail for a subsequent action (by someone else) on the bug, but it didn't mention the "missed" comment
  761. # [12:17] <edmorley> ah
  762. # [12:17] <mjrosenb> edmorley: looking at it... my machine is lagging a ton
  763. # [12:17] <glob|away> edmorley, actually, stopping the page with the browser won't stop the cgi from running
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  765. # [12:17] <edmorley> really?
  766. # [12:18] <Archaeopteryx> bugzilla was very slow this weekend, maybe related?
  767. # [12:18] <glob|away> edmorley, if it isn't generating any output, it won't know the socket is dropped
  768. # [12:18] <edmorley> glob|away: fair point
  769. # [12:18] <glob|away> Archaeopteryx, no, that was a different issue (db related)
  770. # [12:18] <mjrosenb> edmorley: almost certainly a592d7dfb470
  771. # [12:18] <jfkthame> glob|away: any idea why it might've failed to send me mail for a comment yesterday? should i file a bug, or is that not really helpful without STR etc?
  772. # [12:18] <edmorley> I was sure someone had said similar on here before, must be bugzilla folklore
  773. # [12:19] <edmorley> glob|away: thank you for clarifying :-)
  774. # [12:19] <Archaeopteryx> i experienced the issue before, but afaik that was because of issues with my mail provider
  775. # [12:19] <glob|away> jfkthame, pm me your bmo login, and the exact time the change was made. i'll ask IT to grep the maillogs
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  777. # [12:20] <edmorley> mjrosenb: thank you
  778. # [12:20] <glob|away> Archaeopteryx, it almost always is, but still worth a quick grep
  779. # [12:20] <Archaeopteryx> i got them later and the issues at the provider side were confirmed
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  782. # [12:22] <mjrosenb> edmorley: d'oh. I suspect the answer is another 1 line patch.
  783. # [12:22] <mjrosenb> edmorley: I'll push to try
  784. # [12:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3559bc4dfe1b - Ed Morley - Backout a592d7dfb470 for Android crashes
  785. # [12:22] <edmorley> ta :-)
  786. # [12:23] <mjrosenb> hrmm, it is an apropriate time to get breakfast, but I am not hungry :(
  787. # [12:25] <edmorley> mjrosenb: had enough oranges this morning already? :-)
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  789. # [12:28] <Yoric> I am having internal server errors with hg.mozilla.org today.
  790. # [12:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dddf1e60170e - David Burns - Bug 810259: Adding support for getting screenshot from Marionette; r=mdas a=test-only
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  794. # [12:36] <edmorley> Yoric: inbound shows a lot of hg HTTP 500s too fwiw
  795. # [12:36] <edmorley> in the last 20 mins
  796. # [12:37] <Yoric> :/
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  798. # [12:37] <Yoric> Well, I have managed to pull, eventually.
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  817. # [12:56] <mgedmin> hello! I'm trying to write a patch for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702960
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  819. # [12:56] <mgedmin> (making Firefox swap adjacent tabs on Ctrl+Shift+PageUp/PageDown)
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  821. # [12:57] <mgedmin> I'm not sure if I should do that in tabbrowser.xml or in widgets/tabbox.xml
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  829. # [13:05] <Archaeopteryx> mgedmin: dao should know
  830. # [13:05] <mgedmin> ok, I think I just answered my own question: in tabbrowser.xml
  831. # [13:05] <mgedmin> (tabbox is also used for things like tabs in the preferences dialog, where it makes little sense in swapping them)
  832. # [13:05] <Archaeopteryx> mgedmin: hello! I'm trying to write a patch for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702960
  833. # [13:05] <Archaeopteryx> mgedmin: (making Firefox swap adjacent tabs on Ctrl+Shift+PageUp/PageDown)
  834. # [13:05] <Archaeopteryx> mgedmin: I'm not sure if I should do that in tabbrowser.xml or in widgets/tabbox.xml
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  840. # [13:08] <mgedmin> so I'm guessing what I have to do is edit tabbrowser.xml, add a handleEvent method to the tabbrowser-tabbox binding, handle those two keys, and delegate everything else to the inherited handleEvent?
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  842. # [13:10] <mgedmin> how does inheritance work in XUL?
  843. # [13:10] <mgedmin> (I'm assuming these XML files are XUL, right? sorry for noobish questions)
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  848. # [13:14] <glandium> mgedmin, Archaeopteryx: check how the drag-n-drop code is hooked, you may want to do something similar
  849. # [13:15] <mgedmin> glandium: I've a working patch at https://gist.github.com/4174803, but I was sure it was changing the wrong bit of code
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  853. # [13:16] <mgedmin> drag-n-drop is hooked up in browser/content/tabbrowser.xml, but I also found code that handles ctrl-left/right for swapping tabs and cribbed off it
  854. # [13:17] <mgedmin> but ctrl-left/right works only if the tab has keyboard focus, which is rare
  855. # [13:17] <mgedmin> and I want ctrl-pageup/down to work when the browser content is focused
  856. # [13:18] <mgedmin> my current guess is that I need to add a <method name="handleEvent"> to the <implementation> of <binding id="tabbrowser-tabbox">
  857. # [13:18] <mgedmin> but I don't know if doing that will hide the original tabbox handleEvent, and if so, I don't know the spelling of calling the original version
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  862. # [13:20] <mgedmin> this answers my first question (yes, defining will override), but not the second one (so how do I call the inherited version?)
  863. # [13:24] * mgedmin tries to find an answer somewhere in http://books.mozdev.org/html/index.html and fails
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  865. # [13:27] <NeilAway> ooh, now I get to view the -1 comments
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  868. # [13:28] <NeilAway> mgedmin: sorry, xbl doesn't really let you call overridden "superclass" methods
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  870. # [13:30] <mgedmin> hm
  871. # [13:30] <NeilAway> mgedmin: also, you probably need to tweak _handleKeyEvent in tabbrowser.xml
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  874. # [13:31] <mgedmin> _handleKeyEvent is part of #tabbrowser itself
  875. # [13:32] <mgedmin> I admit I don't understand the event handling
  876. # [13:33] <mgedmin> if I can put this code into #tabbrowser instead of #tabbrowser-tabs, that'll be easier
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  878. # [13:35] <@smaug> nice spam. 498 attachments
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  880. # [13:37] <mgedmin> oh, I can -- I just need to adjust for 'this' pointing to a completely different object
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  882. # [13:37] <mgedmin> (and event being named aEvent)
  883. # [13:38] <mgedmin> silly question: do I need a full ./mach build after editing one of these XBL .xml files?
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  886. # [13:40] <mgedmin> ok, I've got a working patch again -- this time against tabbrowser.xml
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  893. # [13:48] <mgedmin> whom should I ask to review my patch? dao?
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  900. # [13:51] <Optimizer1> who should be the proper person to cc for bug 797064 ?
  901. # [13:52] <Optimizer1> I have been observing it for months now
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  904. # [13:52] <mgedmin> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Firefox says gavin is the owner of browser/
  905. # [13:54] <Optimizer1> its a windows only features, too pecific to add the owner :D
  906. # [13:54] <Optimizer1> I might but :P
  907. # [13:54] * mgedmin attaches his patch to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702960 and requests a review from gavin
  908. # [13:54] <gfritzsche> Optimizer1: jimm or bbondy for windows integration things?
  909. # [13:55] <Optimizer1> done
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  948. # [14:29] <zimio> I have a problem running firefox after building it. I run the firefox binary in browser/app/firefox
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  950. # [14:29] <zimio> and then I get this error: browser/app/libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  951. # [14:29] <zimio> Couldn't load XPCOM.
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  954. # [14:31] <@bz> zimio: run the binary in dist/bin/firefox
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  956. # [14:31] <zimio> ok
  957. # [14:33] <mjrosenb> FFFFF
  958. # [14:34] <mjrosenb> I changed my password yesterday
  959. # [14:34] <mjrosenb> and now I believe I have forgotten it
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  961. # [14:35] <Wes> mjrosenb: pretend you didn't change it, and now need to change it. What would you change it to? :)
  962. # [14:35] <mjrosenb> Wes: I vaguely remember what I changed it to
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  965. # [14:36] <mjrosenb> unfortunately, the thing that reminds me what I changed it to is on the other side of my ldap password
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  972. # [14:40] <mjrosenb> ok, while I try to figure out what my password is, can someone re-trigger #2 on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8337741525e5 for me?
  973. # [14:40] <gfritzsche> done
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  976. # [14:40] <zimio> I compiled firefox with the debug symbols, but the window never appears
  977. # [14:41] <zimio> in the console it throws these errors
  978. # [14:41] <zimio> ###!!! ASSERTION: ContentViewer Initialization failed: 'Error', file /tmp/iceweasel/iceweasel-10.0.11esr/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp, line 7712
  979. # [14:42] <zimio> http://pastebin.com/A7Qc90WM
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  987. # [14:54] <mjrosenb> ok, got my password back
  988. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> Was it hunter2?
  989. # [14:54] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: hunter3 itym
  990. # [14:54] <AutomatedTester> and I bet it was behind the sofa
  991. # [14:55] <mjrosenb> nonon, I am far too clever to make it hunter2
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  993. # [14:56] <mjrosenb> "tworetnuh" on the other hand...
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  996. # [14:56] <@ted> mjrosenb: i've reosrted to just writing them down on a post-it
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  998. # [14:57] <@ted> if someone breaks into my home office and steals my password i have other issues
  999. # [14:57] <mjrosenb> indeed.
  1000. # [14:57] <mjrosenb> my passwords were cetting kind of rediculous before I started wfm
  1001. # [14:57] <mjrosenb> e.g.
  1002. # [14:58] <mjrosenb> <dfErFrgP.annfYdcbtYdcoCoOycnnMfLaoo,rpe
  1003. # [14:58] <@ted> heh
  1004. # [14:58] <@ted> i just use pass phrases now, seems to be working better
  1005. # [14:58] <@ted> granted i have to type like 30 characters, and if i ever have to enter them on mobile i'm :-(
  1006. # [14:59] <mjrosenb> ted: who said I don't use pass phrases?
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  1008. # [14:59] <@ted> ah
  1009. # [14:59] * AutomatedTester hates the term password
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  1011. # [15:00] <AutomatedTester> it causes so many issues with non-techincal people who think they are limited to 1 word
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  1013. # [15:00] <glob> AutomatedTester, how about "user provided authentication token"
  1014. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> UPAT?
  1015. # [15:00] <AutomatedTester> thats worse
  1016. # [15:00] <mjrosenb> "pass-novella"
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  1019. # [15:01] <AutomatedTester> glob: pass phrase
  1020. # [15:01] <mjrosenb> minimum 10,000 words
  1021. # [15:01] <glob> AutomatedTester, nooo, too simple
  1022. # [15:01] <AutomatedTester> 2 step authentication sometimes makes me sad
  1023. # [15:02] <nigelb> pass sentence.
  1024. # [15:02] <glob> nigelb, shorten that to "pass tence"
  1025. # [15:02] <edmorley> AutomatedTester: how come?
  1026. # [15:03] <AutomatedTester> edmorley: because only web sites that google manage understand 2step authentication
  1027. # [15:03] <AutomatedTester> none of their apps that are not web site based work
  1028. # [15:03] <edmorley> one time passwords
  1029. # [15:03] <AutomatedTester> e.g. apps on phones/Google App Engine
  1030. # [15:03] <edmorley> yeah
  1031. # [15:03] <AutomatedTester> yes, but you need to be told to go to the site to create one
  1032. # [15:03] <edmorley> yeah :-/
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  1034. # [15:05] <AutomatedTester> and I do a little security through obscurity with my accounts on highly sensitive services
  1035. # [15:05] <nigelb> In India, no online hacking movie would be great. Because we have something called Verified by Visa and something equivalent for master card, which adds 2-step auth for all credit/debit card transactions.
  1036. # [15:05] <AutomatedTester> like my blog and my vps
  1037. # [15:05] <AutomatedTester> so I create users just for them on gmail that arent linked to my main domain
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  1039. # [15:06] <AutomatedTester> nigelb: we have that here and it pisses me off
  1040. # [15:06] <AutomatedTester> its their 3d security
  1041. # [15:06] <AutomatedTester> i think thats what they call it
  1042. # [15:06] <nigelb> AutomatedTester: Yeah, it's a fricking pain :(
  1043. # [15:06] <nigelb> If my phone doesn't have battery, I can't do anything online.
  1044. # [15:06] <nigelb> or range for that matter.
  1045. # [15:07] <AutomatedTester> and cell networks around the world are brilliant arent they?
  1046. # [15:07] <mjrosenb> nigelb: but if you're doing something online, you have a computer with power, and can charge your phone.
  1047. # [15:07] * AutomatedTester goes looking for his soap box to stand on
  1048. # [15:07] <nigelb> mjrosenb: The network is more often a problem than battery.
  1049. # [15:08] <mjrosenb> nigelb: ahh, and having wireless access does not let you recieve text messages
  1050. # [15:08] <nigelb> Exactly.
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  1053. # [15:12] <mjrosenb> edmorley: does this look like the thing that you backed me out for or something different? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8337741525e5
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  1057. # [15:13] <edmorley> mjrosenb: the same test (test_a4_tone.html) was involved, but the stack is different
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  1059. # [15:13] <edmorley> mjrosenb: previous https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17552103&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error1
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  1072. # [15:24] <ttaubert> Yoric: not sure, it's been a long time.
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  1083. # [15:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/88d710c57dc5 - Mario Alvarado [:marioalv] - Bug 806707 - Port browser_save_private_link.js to the new per-window PB APIs; r=ehsan
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  1088. # [15:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f19c16aa80f2 - Ed Morley - Bug 817349 - Ensure topFrame is always defined; r=ted
  1089. # [15:35] <@smaug> NeilAway: ping
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  1100. # [15:45] <@smaug> or gavin
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  1102. # [15:47] <firebot> Check-in:
  1103. # [15:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7aa3201571dd - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 814074 - Send a system message to the application when the application is not running anymore but waits for a notification. r=fabrice. a=blocking-basecamp.
  1104. # [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/717f366d3290 - Paul Adenot - Bug 817404 - Compilation error in layout/generic/nsFrameSetFrame.cpp with gcc 4.7. r=ehsan
  1105. # [15:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e1a5a4f0da6 - Paul Adenot - Bug 817403 - Remove the preskip check when playing opus chained file. r=derf
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  1119. # [16:03] <mounir> how do I know the date of the Firefox 17 releases from hg.mozilla.org?
  1120. # [16:03] <mounir> hmm
  1121. # [16:03] <mounir> I mean, the date of the last m-c commit
  1122. # [16:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69de9132d9e0 - Mike Conley - Bug 815131 Follow-up - Use a child selector instead of the descendent selector. r=me.
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  1128. # [16:10] <Callek> mounir: last m-c commit, or last "commit that was part of Firefox 17"
  1129. # [16:10] <NeilAway> smaug: pong
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  1132. # [16:11] <Callek> mounir: also, do you want date or cset itself
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  1135. # [16:11] <@smaug> NeilAway: ah, nm. I found where UI code handles contextmenu
  1136. # [16:12] <@smaug> and I managed to break it :)
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  1139. # [16:13] <@ted> mounir: there are tags for branch dates
  1140. # [16:14] <@ted> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fd72dbbd6920 is FIREFOX_AURORA_17_BASE
  1141. # [16:15] <josh> does msvc really not support buf[gVar] where gVar is a global const int?
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  1144. # [16:16] <glandium> josh: that's not supported by C++
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  1146. # [16:17] <josh> I thougth it was, clang is fine with it and my basic googling made it seem like it should work
  1147. # [16:17] <josh> so if I want to have a global variable controlling buffer size in a certain scenario, am I stuck with a macro?
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  1152. # [16:20] <glandium> josh: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1887097/variable-length-arrays-in-c
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  1154. # [16:20] <josh> glandium: I'm not trying to have a variable-length array, I'm using a const int
  1155. # [16:20] <glandium> ah i missed the const part
  1156. # [16:21] <Ms2ger> josh, what makes you think a const int isn't variable? ;)
  1157. # [16:21] <glandium> josh: make it static
  1158. # [16:21] <Ms2ger> *const_cast<int*>(&gVar) = 42
  1159. # [16:21] <Ms2ger> Sure, it'll crash, so what? :)
  1160. # [16:22] <glandium> josh: where are you defining the const ?
  1161. # [16:23] <josh> glandium: I have "const int gFoo = 46; " in a .cpp file, with "extern const int gFoo;" in a header
  1162. # [16:24] <josh> I want to use this value in a number of different files that include the header
  1163. # [16:24] <glandium> josh: yeah, so essentially, for the compiler, it's just a variable-length array
  1164. # [16:24] <josh> well, for a not-very-smart compiler anyway!
  1165. # [16:24] <glandium> josh: for a compiler-that-doesn't-do-linking
  1166. # [16:25] <johnath> Callek: left as an exercise to the reader (though the source links under the photo oughta give strong hints :)
  1167. # [16:25] <josh> I suppose linking would matter there, but why is clang fine with it?
  1168. # [16:25] <glandium> josh: if you want your constant to be an actual constant, define it in the .h
  1169. # [16:25] <glandium> josh: because it does a variable-length array
  1170. # [16:25] <glandium> josh: add -pedantic and it will complain
  1171. # [16:26] <josh> thanks for your help
  1172. # [16:26] <Callek> johnath: when I looked I didn't see said source links ;-)
  1173. # [16:27] <Callek> also I lost the image to your composite now
  1174. # [16:27] <johnath> easy to find it again - go to noshavingindecember.org
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  1197. # [16:44] <blassey> damnit, I think I just pushed to m-c when I mean to push to try
  1198. # [16:44] <@bz> mmmm
  1199. # [16:44] <blassey> oh never mind
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  1201. # [16:44] <blassey> wow... its monday isn't it
  1202. # [16:45] <blassey> bz: yea... that's what just went through my mind
  1203. # [16:45] <blassey> but also I did qpush -f, not push -f
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  1205. # [16:45] <@bz> Or rather, my default-push is http://
  1206. # [16:46] <@bz> or maybe https://
  1207. # [16:46] * @bz hasn't looked
  1208. # [16:46] <@bz> blassey: heh
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  1210. # [16:46] <gcp> shouldn't that fail because there's a try: filter on m-c?
  1211. # [16:46] <blassey> gcp: it should have failed for probably 6 different reasons
  1212. # [16:46] <froydnj> of course, that would be the push he also forgot to use try: syntax on ;)
  1213. # [16:46] <blassey> the fact that I didn't get an error is what put me in temporary panic mode
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  1217. # [16:50] <nemo> hm. big improvement in IE10 on http://m8y.org/tmp/kraken.xhtml
  1218. # [16:50] <nemo> combine that w/ their nicer rendering and way better CSS3
  1219. # [16:50] <nemo> I think I'm going to have to learn to love IE
  1220. # [16:50] <nemo> now if only microsoft made a token effort to support their own operating system
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  1222. # [16:50] <nemo> (XP, Vista) the way other browsers do
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  1224. # [16:52] <@bz> Makes it harder to move fast if you do that
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  1226. # [16:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd85fd11cf7e - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
  1227. # [16:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88d710c57dc5 - Mario Alvarado [:marioalv] - Bug 806707 - Port browser_save_private_link.js to the new per-window PB APIs; r=ehsan
  1228. # [16:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9020fa719c5 - Ehsan Akhgari - Follow-up to bug 810180 - Reset the homepage to about:blank when opening new windows in the test; r=jdm
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  1261. # [17:09] <@bz> Wow
  1262. # [17:09] <@bz> Are we the only ones who do text/html in DOMParser?
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  1265. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> Probably
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  1268. # [17:11] <Yoric> What else do others do?
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  1270. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> Not support it
  1271. # [17:12] <@bz> Opera: Uncaught exception: DOMException: NOT_SUPPORTED_ERR
  1272. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> It was originally XML only
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  1276. # [17:13] <@bz> WebKit: returns null (!)
  1277. # [17:13] <@bz> Ms2ger: yes, I know
  1278. # [17:13] <@bz> Ms2ger: writing test for handling of null char
  1279. # [17:13] * joduinn-afk is now known as joduinn
  1280. # [17:13] <@bz> Ms2ger: so mostly have to use text/html, since it's not well-formed XML. ;)
  1281. # [17:17] <Yoric> ttaubert: I will try and pick your brain some more about bug 669603 once I have finished with my current stuff.
  1282. # [17:17] <ttaubert> Yoric: can't wait
  1283. # [17:17] <ttaubert> :)
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  1286. # [17:18] <Yoric> :)
  1287. # [17:19] <jimm> tests don't appear to be running on mozilla-central
  1288. # [17:19] * gregglind_away is now known as gregglind
  1289. # [17:19] <jimm> according to tbpl anyway
  1290. # [17:20] <firebot> Check-in:
  1291. # [17:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a7197560225 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 817420 (new bindings api for element broke cloud9/apf) - don't register Element prototype yet, we need to convert plain elements to the new DOM binding
  1292. # [17:20] <firebot> first. r=bz.
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  1302. # [17:30] <@gavin> Yoric: fwiw, I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1974302 when launching with your patch applied
  1303. # [17:30] * Yoric takes a look
  1304. # [17:31] <Yoric> That's the patch that killed robocop?
  1305. # [17:31] <@gavin> yeah
  1306. # [17:31] <@gavin> I don't understand that exactly, tabbrowser.xml doesn't use AboutHomeUtils
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  1308. # [17:32] <Yoric> I will take a look.
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  1310. # [17:32] <@gavin> oh, line 404 is a progress listener
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  1313. # [17:33] <@gavin> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/tabbrowser.xml#408
  1314. # [17:33] <Yoric> There is a bug indeed.
  1315. # [17:33] <@gavin> which is where http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#2470 is called
  1316. # [17:33] <Yoric> Let me quickfix it and check if it improves anything.
  1317. # [17:33] <@gavin> so that explains that
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  1319. # [17:33] <@gavin> (via TabsProgressListener onStateChange)
  1320. # [17:34] <@gavin> gtg, bbl :)
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  1322. # [17:34] <Yoric> cheers
  1323. # [17:34] <Yoric> And thanks.
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  1330. # [17:40] <evilpie> jst: bug 808792 ping
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  1342. # [17:47] <@bz> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/12/03/10373882.aspx is awesome
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  1345. # [17:51] <firebot> Check-in:
  1346. # [17:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9764b2ccbac - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 816160. Don't require 'castable':False for prefable bindings with hasXPConnectImpls, and don't require hasXPConnectImpls bindings to be prefable. r=peterv
  1347. # [17:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6e5cfa9dd01 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 817476. Really do WebIDL bindings for Screen. r=ms2ger
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  1379. # [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62d807d96900 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 812380 - optimize less aggressively in TraceWeakMapping. r=billm
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  1384. # [18:12] <@khuey> omg
  1385. # [18:13] <@khuey> did we fix persona to work with the password manager?
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  1388. # [18:14] * Callek tries to find out the answer to that
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  1390. # [18:14] <Callek> oo apparantly my persona token was still valid -- will have to find out another day
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  1421. # [18:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f2e51e26e68 - Chris Peterson - Bug 817419 - Fix warning about DebugScopes forward-declaration as struct. r=jcoppeard
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  1432. # [18:33] <@ted> BenWa: thanks for looking at that patch
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  1449. # [18:43] <BenWa> ted: np
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  1466. # [18:52] <BenWa> ted: Why not do something like eideticker for your startup perf tests? It has most of the feature you want
  1467. # [18:52] <BenWa> You'll get a timing info, a frame by frame view and cpu samples
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  1469. # [18:53] <BenWa> It's more work but it wont be hacky
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  1473. # [18:55] <dougt> azakai|far: ping?
  1474. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7f71ff116c3 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 815999 - Sweep debugger and debugee objects in same group and improve black->gray pointer detection r=billm
  1475. # [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d0e73213774 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 816054 - Assert wrappers are sensible when added to compartment map r=billm
  1476. # [18:56] <@ted> BenWa: yeah, we're going to get there
  1477. # [18:56] <@ted> we're just not there yet and we want some data
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  1480. # [18:56] <BenWa> ted: I don't think frames will give you anything meaningful during startup
  1481. # [18:57] <BenWa> What will you look for in those numbers?
  1482. # [18:57] <@ted> okay
  1483. # [18:57] <@ted> oh, i'm not trying to measure framerate during startup
  1484. # [18:57] <@ted> just after the app opens
  1485. # [18:57] <BenWa> Paint flashing could be more useful, or custom profile traces
  1486. # [18:57] <BenWa> or paint dumping
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  1488. # [18:57] <@ted> gal wants some data yesterday, so i was trying to see if i could get something useful out
  1489. # [18:58] <@ted> and by "yesterday" i mean "two weeks ago"
  1490. # [18:58] <BenWa> Right, but bad data is worse then no data. I wont veto you landing that patch but I'm affraid you'll get bad data
  1491. # [18:58] <@ted> gotcha
  1492. # [18:59] <@ted> i discussed this with cjones and he thought it would be okay, but if you don't think so then i'm okay with that
  1493. # [18:59] <@ted> if we really can't get any useful framerate data out without eideticker then we can just say that
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  1495. # [19:00] <BenWa> ted: eideticker does ok cause you can look down at the range where you're panning and ignore the rest
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  1497. # [19:00] <BenWa> I use it mostly to figure out what we're computing while frame X is on screen
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  1502. # [19:01] <BenWa> I'll talk with cjones when he comes on. Maybe he can explain what we can get out of this data
  1503. # [19:01] <@ted> okay
  1504. # [19:01] <@ted> thanks
  1505. # [19:02] <@ted> i'm all for not spending time on something that's not useful
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  1508. # [19:02] <@ted> and i know wlach is working on eideticker for B2G, just not sure how far off that is
  1509. # [19:02] <BenWa> ted: Are we wanting to startup faster? What about writing a script to start an app and dump a profile?
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  1511. # [19:02] <@ted> BenWa: i think gal's main concerns were a) comparing app startup/framerate vs. android on the same hardware
  1512. # [19:02] <wlach> ted: BenWa: eideticker is currently not going anywhere because I can't get b2g to start properly on the panda
  1513. # [19:02] <@ted> and b) ensure that we aren't regressing perf
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  1516. # [19:03] <BenWa> cjones: ping, re ted FPS patch. Do you really think it would be useful?
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  1524. # [19:05] <BenWa> wlach: So running it standalone without the dashboard is not near either?
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  1529. # [19:06] <wlach> BenWa: it's kind of hard to say. I'd like to say it's close, but I've had so many problems getting the pandas working reliably that I'm not sure when I'll have something ready
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  1531. # [19:07] <BenWa> alright np
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  1534. # [19:07] <@bz> Pandas are hard to get to work.
  1535. # [19:07] <@bz> Lazy unmotivated brutes.
  1536. # [19:07] <@bz> Just want to sit there and eat bamboo.
  1537. # [19:08] <nemo> hm. http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faces.pl is dead? :-/
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  1539. # [19:08] <nemo> bz: well. you try powering a bear body on grass.
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  1542. # [19:09] <Archaeopteryx> indeed, smoking seems to be more feasible
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  1545. # [19:11] <@khuey> bz: they're living the dream
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  1552. # [19:14] <@bz> nemo: Pretty small bear....
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  1554. # [19:14] <@bz> khuey: Until they go extinct, yes. ;)
  1555. # [19:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1273cc549e2e - Brian Hackett - Fix test for incremental GC when triggering off thread compilation, bug 817635. r=billm
  1556. # [19:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc20093cfc9d - Benoit Girard - Bug 816656 - Don't write the startup cache on shutdown. r=taras
  1557. # [19:15] <nemo> hey. 280lb isn't *that* bad. but. yeah. that's what comes of vegetarianism ;)
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  1597. # [19:37] <cjones> BenWa, what's your goal here?
  1598. # [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eeca66c44a67 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 817012 - Use a richer interface to talk from about:telemetry to TelemetryPing.js. r=vdjeric
  1599. # [19:37] <BenWa> cjones: Well ted want to use the FPS data and read it from JS. I'm affraid that the data it's going to give us is going to be useless at best and misleading at worse
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  1601. # [19:38] <BenWa> cjones: I was wondering if you really though this data was useful. Perhaps I'm just mistaken
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  1603. # [19:39] <BenWa> We only composite/do a transaction when requested so just that number alone is impossible to interpret
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  1606. # [19:40] <fabrice> jduell: ping
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  1626. # [19:50] <gregglind> should unprotocoled urls (<script src="//cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.8.2/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script>) work on FX?
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  1628. # [19:50] <@bz> 816778
  1629. # [19:50] <@bz> er...
  1630. # [19:50] <@bz> gregglind: yes
  1631. # [19:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2ce0bb43518 - Ed Morley - Backout bc20093cfc9d (bug 816656) for build failures during prepare-package
  1632. # [19:51] <@bz> gregglind: Pretty sure they work across all browsers and the web depends on it...
  1633. # [19:52] <gregglind> they don't work from the urlbar in my aurora (which might be awesome bar) and don't seem to work in my pages.
  1634. # [19:53] <@bz> From the URL bar they can't work
  1635. # [19:53] <@bz> From pages... should work. What's your testcase?
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  1639. # [19:53] <cec1354> so i have a crash here involving memory corruption and im bad honestly need to talk to someone
  1640. # [19:53] <gregglind> https://raw.github.com/thomasdavis/backbonetutorials/gh-pages/videos/beginner/index.html bz
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  1642. # [19:54] <@bz> gregglind: yes, but where are you loading the page from?
  1643. # [19:54] <gregglind> locl
  1644. # [19:54] <gregglind> *local file system
  1645. # [19:54] <@bz> gregglind: Then it won't work
  1646. # [19:54] <gregglind> okay, what I am missing then :)
  1647. # [19:54] <@bz> gregglind: "//foo.com/whatever" uses the same protocol as the base URI
  1648. # [19:54] <cec1354> i can see data potentially interpretable as pointers being overwritten, and no heap spray or anything is involved yet. I believe this may be exploitable.
  1649. # [19:54] <gregglind> ah, so file
  1650. # [19:54] <@bz> gregglind: so if the page it's on is http you get "http://foo.com/whatever"
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  1652. # [19:54] <gregglind> thanks, that was unclear to me.
  1653. # [19:54] <@bz> gregglind: and if it's https you get "https://foo.com/whatever"
  1654. # [19:54] <@bz> yeah
  1655. # [19:55] <@bz> The idea is that you use https exactly when you want to
  1656. # [19:55] <@bz> but for file:// you lose
  1657. # [19:55] <gregglind> sure, can I fake it? ( call local file as though it's http?)
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  1659. # [19:55] <Mook_as> gregglind: http://thomasdavis.github.com/backbonetutorials/videos/beginner/index.html seems to work though
  1660. # [19:55] <@khuey> cec1354: lets take this to PM
  1661. # [19:55] <@gavin> run an http server locally is probably the easiest way
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  1663. # [19:56] <Mook_as> and given that github doesn't support https, you don't really need a protocol-relative url...?
  1664. # [19:56] <gregglind> Mook_as, this is for teaching a workshop tomorrow.
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  1666. # [19:56] <gregglind> and learners should run on their own. I will jsut have them edit it, now that I know the issue.
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  1668. # [19:56] <gregglind> and it's an interesting and (new to me!) aside
  1669. # [19:56] <@dolske> local http server also avoids file:/// security weirdness.
  1670. # [19:57] <Mook_as> IIRC, google analytics fakes it by document.write()ing the script url
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  1672. # [19:57] <gregglind> I am trying to make a few dependencies as possible :) I wish even the server in that was just a bunch of backbone endpoints.
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  1674. # [19:57] <gregglind> Anyone know an even better "all-in-one" backbone demo?
  1675. # [19:58] <gregglind> (ie., no depending on PHP/MySQL :) )
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  1681. # [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bce4d044b15e - Paul Adenot - Bug 817433 - Accept missing Mid for RTCIceCandidate. r=jesup
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  1687. # [20:03] <espindola> ted: weekly ping on 803184
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  1699. # [20:06] <@ted> espindola: ok, still working on my queue :-/
  1700. # [20:06] <@khuey> when did we start getting serious about regression testing?
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  1702. # [20:06] <@khuey> like, what year?
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  1707. # [20:07] <Callek> khuey: 2014 right?
  1708. # [20:07] <@khuey> haha
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  1710. # [20:07] <@bz> khuey: 2006
  1711. # [20:07] <@bz> khuey: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvslog.cgi?file=mozilla/testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/SimpleTest.js&rev=HEAD&mark=1.12
  1712. # [20:07] <@khuey> bz: ty
  1713. # [20:07] <Mossop> Depends what you mean by "serious"
  1714. # [20:07] <@ted> sounds about right
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  1716. # [20:07] <jesup> Mashable didn't think Firefox OS was worth mentioning in http://mashable.com/2012/12/02/here-comes-the-first-real-alternative-to-iphone-and-android/
  1717. # [20:08] <Mossop> Different test suites came on at different times
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  1719. # [20:08] <Callek> Mossop++
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  1721. # [20:08] <@bz> khuey: And http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvslog.cgi?file=mozilla/layout/tools/reftest/reftest.js&rev=HEAD&mark=1.38
  1722. # [20:08] <@bz> But look at rev 1.1, not at the marked rev. ;)
  1723. # [20:09] <@khuey> heh
  1724. # [20:09] * @bz still recalls sayrer pushing that stuff through...
  1725. # [20:09] <@bz> It was pretty amazing. ;)
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  1758. # [20:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57a020c3628b - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 817138: Private browsing support for Back/Forward buttons. [r=mfinkle]
  1759. # [20:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2626cd90bf2e - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 817138: Re-create back/forward button in code. [r=mfinkle]
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  1772. # [20:29] <mjrosenb> hrmm, I'm guessing we don't do anything fancy, like grab a crashreporter dump when we crashon tbpl, do we?
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  1798. # [20:41] <bjacob> KaiRo: do we filter Android crash reports differently from Windows ones, in a way that could contribute to why it seems that over 10% of our crashes are on Android?
  1799. # [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abcf9d5fd503 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 816149 - When updating hosted apps with appcache, the update is automatically done [r=ferjm]
  1800. # [20:42] <bjacob> KaiRo: moving over to #breakpad
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  1811. # [20:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b12ba63cffa9 - Benoit Girard - Bug 799640 - Part 1: Refactor JSObjectBuilder. r=ehsan
  1812. # [20:49] <Matti> bjacob: only x percent of desktop crasher are submitted
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  1814. # [20:50] <bjacob> Matti: is x the same for android?
  1815. # [20:51] <Matti> that is the question. It could explain why you have a higher volume of submitted crash reports on Android
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  1817. # [20:52] <Matti> bjacob: you can see the throtteling in about:crashes. all crashes without bp- in front are not submitted until you click on them
  1818. # [20:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5356e26df0a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 817744: Fix whitespace issues in nsFrameSetFrame.cpp. whitespace-only, DONTBUILD
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  1822. # [20:53] <bjacob> Matti: ok
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  1831. # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b70ac0124fe - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 815807 - Part 3: Load marionette early in the B2G startup process if relevant pref is set, otherwise load it late, r=ahal
  1832. # [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41be1ff63431 - Panos Astithas - Bug 815807 - Part 4: Let Marionette listen for non-local connections, r=jgriffin
  1833. # [20:55] <riadh> hi, could you tell me please how to get the location of profile dictory?
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  1838. # [20:56] <sheppy> riadh: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Code_snippets/File_I_O#Getting_files_in_special_directories
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  1842. # [20:57] <riadh> thanks a lot, how how to do it c++
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  1844. # [20:58] <_AxS_> glandium: ping ; trying to package spidermonkey, and it seems that INSTALL_TARGET thing you suggested doesn't work. no errors, but it doesn't trigger 'build' or installation of the .pc file
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  1847. # [20:59] <_AxS_> glandium: ..err, wait i think i found the issue
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  1867. # [21:12] <Yoric> gavin: Ok, I fixed the issue you mentioned, but this doesn't change anything.
  1868. # [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/550d6b2f98aa - Brian Nicholson - Bug 816902 - Prevent suggestion prompt buttons from being clicked multiple times. r=mfinkle
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  1870. # [21:12] <Yoric> Otoh, it seems quite likely that the robocop bug is something that blocks the event loop before my code is called.
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  1873. # [21:14] <riadh> @sheppy : could you tell me please how to do the same thing in c++
  1874. # [21:14] <sheppy> riadh: Should work about the same way. But I've not done it personally.
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  1876. # [21:16] <riadh> @sheppy: should i use nsILocalFile clas to do that
  1877. # [21:16] <sheppy> riadh: I believe so, yeah.
  1878. # [21:17] <riadh> ok thank you i will try that
  1879. # [21:17] <Mook_as> riadh: no, nsILocalFile is useless these days, use nsIFile
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  1881. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> glandium: .rodata isn't shared in universal builds? I thought it was
  1882. # [21:18] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's not
  1883. # [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4bb1f2098cd - Jeff Walden - Bug 815414 - Move the DST offset cache out of JSContext, and LocalTZA out of a process-wide static, into JSRuntime. r=jorendorff
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  1887. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> that sucks, ISTM it should be possible to have sections which are shared across arch
  1888. # [21:19] <glandium> bsmedberg: universal builds are just 2 independent mach-o files agreggated as a fat binary
  1889. # [21:19] <riadh> @Mook_as: do you know how can use nsILocalFile?
  1890. # [21:19] <riadh> please
  1891. # [21:19] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's not possible without a radical change in the file format
  1892. # [21:19] <Mook_as> riadh: so, 1) you probably want #introduction or #extdev (less chatter); 2) see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/io/nsILocalFile.idl
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  1894. # [21:20] <evilpie> bsmedberg, naveed: whoo i didn't realize my patch was in such a strong range
  1895. # [21:20] <@bsmedberg> evilpie: the nightly ranges are usually pretty good, if the volume is greater than 10/day
  1896. # [21:21] <@bsmedberg> if it's less than that, you might need to look back a day or two
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  1901. # [21:23] <riadh> @Mook_as: thank you
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  1912. # [21:26] <jimm> ugh, what is this new config error - "CLOBBER has been modified indicating a clobber is required"
  1913. # [21:26] <jimm> all I did was touch a bit of configure.in
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  1916. # [21:27] <edmorley|away> jimm: where? tbpl or locally?
  1917. # [21:27] <jimm> locally
  1918. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a44fedf55a6c - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 817122 - Add initial B2G xpcshell manifest, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD a=NPOTB,test-only
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  1922. # [21:28] <edmorley|away> jimm: the CLOBBER file is there to indicate that changes have landed that require a clobber
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  1926. # [21:29] <edmorley|away> jimm: it shouldn't take effect unless (a) you already have the CLOBBER file in your objdir, and (b) the CLOBBER contents have changed in-tree since you last built
  1927. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad1ee5f59a6e - Bill McCloskey - Bug 817343 - Ensure that incremental GC validation happens (r=jonco)
  1928. # [21:29] * jimm deletes CLOBBER and tries again
  1929. # [21:30] <edmorley|away> jimm: if that's not the case, please file and mark blocking 717372 (I have a newsgroup post coming shortly about the new feature)
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  1931. # [21:30] <jimm> ok will do
  1932. # [21:30] <jimm> I'll try to reproduce it
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  1934. # [21:30] <edmorley|away> thank you
  1935. # [21:30] <hub> ted: I have a review pending for bug 814078
  1936. # [21:30] <hub> ted: do you know when you'll be able to do it?
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  1949. # [21:34] <aceman> hi, is it possible to hide accesskeys on menuitems?
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  1952. # [21:35] <jimm> edmorley|away: would making changes to the package manifest trigger that?
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  1966. # [21:39] <_AxS_> glandium: re-ping. OK so for whatever reason, adding PKG_CONFIG to INSTALL_TARGETS as you suggested installs a symlink rather than the actual file. any ideas why this is?
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  1969. # [21:41] <edmorley|away> jimm: it isn't able to determine itself if a clobber is required, it is just intended as a substitute to "let's tell all of #developers and hope people see the message & remember to clobber locally and every project branch on TBPL".
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  1971. # [21:41] <edmorley|away> jimm: although I think I see a potential issue if someone hg updates to an older cset after building a newer one
  1972. # [21:42] <jaws> anybody mention graphics bugs with today's nightly? overlapping text
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  1975. # [21:42] <merike> can I reference a file inside jar if jar is accessible from resource://a/b/c.jar? if yes then how?
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  1980. # [21:43] <jimm> edmorley|away: oh I see, this file is generated by our automated build system.
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  1984. # [21:45] <merike> tried jar:resource://a/b/c.jar!/... but that didn't work
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  1988. # [21:47] <jaws> hm, reloading the page fixed it, maybe it was a bug in Gmail
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  2026. # [22:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8b88df64dba - Saurabh Anand - Bug 816168 - Split out WebGLRenderbuffer into separate files - r=bjacob
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  2060. # [22:19] <@gavin> Yoric: which issue?/
  2061. # [22:19] <@gavin> oh, the exception
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  2092. # [22:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e9d2055f9ea8 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 813947 - Ensure pointer argument validity. r=bsmedberg a=lsblakk
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  2094. # [22:36] <gcp> what happens if you compile with OBJDIR not set?
  2095. # [22:37] <gcp> you screw your sourcedir
  2096. # [22:37] <Mossop> In theory it should work, in practice though yeah
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  2104. # [22:40] <jesup> Threading/refcount question: I have a runnable with a ref to a main-thread-only object. I'm running on a non-main-thread. When I'm done, I tried reposting myself to the main thread to die (where I could release the ref). But this goes boom if the MainThread kills me before I exist on the other thread, and kunFuDeathGrips don't help as I need to delete on the MainThread. I could add a...
  2105. # [22:40] <jesup> ...Mutex (to block MainThread until I exit); but I suspect there's a better way to kill a MainThread ref (probably using .forget to create a new runnable of some class, and send to Main, instead of 'this').
  2106. # [22:40] <jesup> I assume such a class already exists, and/or that there's a better way to handle this. (Everything exists somewhere in the tree... ;-
  2107. # [22:40] <jesup> )
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  2113. # [22:45] <benjamin> what is the [needs review] whiteboard thing supposed to indicate?
  2114. # [22:45] <benjamin> well, I know what it indicates, but what is it for?
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  2116. # [22:46] <mccr8> benjamin: you could probably set up a bunch of bugzilla searches to look at your bugs that are in various states of work.
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  2119. # [22:46] <benjamin> oh, can you not search review flags?
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  2121. # [22:47] <mccr8> I'm not sure. :)
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  2126. # [22:48] <evilpie> any idea why https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/gecko-profiler/ shows not for your platform on linux? manually installing it works
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  2133. # [22:52] <_AxS_> glandium: PKG_CONFIG_INSTALL := install , should I just change that to $(SYSINSTALL) ?
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  2136. # [22:54] <Waldo> glandium: will |extern int foo[] = { 3, 5, 7, 1, 2 };| plus |extern int& foo2 = foo[2];| cause anything like static initializers, or no? there are some extern globals right now that I'm looking to move into an array, for contiguousness, and I'm wondering if I can use global references to preserve the existing names for them
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  2140. # [22:54] <Waldo> (these globals are PODs, not ints, if that matters at all)
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  2142. # [22:55] <jesup> evilpie: I'm seeing the same thing on the profiler with a locally-built Aurora build from 11/12/2012
  2143. # [22:55] <evilpie> jesup: i used the current nightly
  2144. # [22:56] <seth> so if i am making a change that affects addon-visible APIs (i've already checked the add ons MXR and I _think_ it's OK but i want to be sure) i add "addon-compat" to the keywords on the bug to request an add-on compatibility review, right?
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  2153. # [23:00] <@roc> jesup: what do you mean "the main thread kills me"?
  2154. # [23:00] <jdm> evilpie: probably because the profiler results on linux are not particularly useful right now
  2155. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1ccc07339b2 - Justin Lebar - No bug: Fix whitespace error. DONTBUILD
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  2160. # [23:03] <jwir3> strange question... why do most of our APIs have getBoundingClientRect() for a name, instead of getBoundingRect()? (I assume it has something to do with another getBoundingXRect, but I'm curious as to why it's called a 'client rect')
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  2162. # [23:04] <@roc> that name came from IE
  2163. # [23:04] <@roc> getBoundingClientRect was originally a Microsoft invention
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  2165. # [23:04] <@roc> so, ask them :-)
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  2169. # [23:05] <@roc> there's is the general idea that "client coordinates" are relative to the viewport of the document the element belongs to
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  2171. # [23:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/077e43a8668b - Josh Matthews - Backed out changeset 0902b7e89928 (bug 816524)
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  2173. # [23:06] <dholbert> jwir3, see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536433%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
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  2175. # [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46ac86b232eb - Bill McCloskey - Backout ad1ee5f59a6e (bug 817343) for orange
  2176. # [23:06] <dholbert> the returned rectangle is "relative to the client's upper-left corner"
  2177. # [23:06] <jesup> roc: as in, I reposted 'this' to mainthread (so it could run, do nothing, and get deleted). But if mainthread runs first, I get deleted when the non-main-thread method exits. Probably a more explicit delegation of the deletion of the stream is in order
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  2179. # [23:06] <jwir3> dholbert: cool. thanks for the answer!
  2180. # [23:08] <glandium> Waldo: that'll likely create static initializers
  2181. # [23:08] <@roc> your runnable should be reference counted so that it won't die until it has run
  2182. # [23:08] <Waldo> :-(
  2183. # [23:08] <glandium> _AxS_: no, you need the snippet i gave
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  2187. # [23:09] <seth> hmm. does overloading work in our IDL files?
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  2189. # [23:10] <@roc> in XPIDL (.idl) it doesn't. In WebIDL it does.
  2190. # [23:10] <jesup> roc: that's the problem, if the main thread runs it before I exit the runnable on the other thread, I'll end up deleteing on the other thread.
  2191. # [23:10] <_AxS_> yeah noticed that...
  2192. # [23:10] <seth> drat!
  2193. # [23:10] <seth> roc: thanks tho
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  2195. # [23:10] <@roc> what are you working on? It should probably be using WebIDL :-)
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  2197. # [23:11] <jesup> I.e. I added a sleep(1) after DispatchToMainThread(this) and it's a guaranteed crash. WHich makes sense. So, is there a "standard" class/trick for deleting on MainThread, or should I re-invent the wheel?
  2198. # [23:11] <@roc> (when I needed to handle overloading of createObjectURL, I started by converting the URL interface to WebIDL...)
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  2201. # [23:12] <@roc> is your main-thread-only object refcounted or not?
  2202. # [23:12] <@roc> I still don't really understand the problem
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  2204. # [23:12] <seth> roc: image lib. it probably should be WebIDL, but i'm not sure how complex the conversion process is going to be =) one can convert a single IDL file at a time, right? or does the whole module have to be updated?
  2205. # [23:12] <jesup> roc: the main-thread-only object (held by the runnable) is an DOMMediaStream
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  2207. # [23:13] <@roc> oh imagelib
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  2212. # [23:13] <@roc> just avoid overloading and use a different name I guess
  2213. # [23:14] <@roc> not worth doing anything else
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  2215. # [23:14] <seth> roc: yeah, was just looking at what would be involved now. seems to be tricky for image lib.
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  2221. # [23:15] <jesup> roc: this is MediaOperationRunnable() in MediaManager.h
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  2226. # [23:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c19b631c208 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 817626 - Move JSOpToCondition to IonMacroAssembler.h r=djvj
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  2229. # [23:17] <@roc> jesup: I think the cleanest approach would not be to repost the MediaOperationRunnable, but when it dies, if you're off the main thread, create a runnable, transfer ownership of the DOMMediaStream to the runnable, and post it to the main thread to release the reference
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  2259. # [23:30] <jesup> roc: yeah. I wanted to avoid having yet another one-off runnable to kill something. We have enough classes.... I thought I'd seen a DeleteOnMainThread() or some such in the codebase... (example: DeleteImageOnMainThread() in gfxReusableSurfaceWrapper)
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  2264. # [23:32] <@roc> yeah we have a few of those
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  2273. # [23:33] <RyanVM> philor! :)
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  2276. # [23:34] <@roc> we could probably use a templated class for it
  2277. # [23:34] * jammink|afk is now known as jammink
  2278. # [23:34] <jesup> roc: exactly
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  2280. # [23:35] <jesup> Instead of replicating N slight variant versions
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  2282. # [23:35] <jesup> I was hoping it existed already
  2283. # [23:35] <Mook_as> is your DOMMediaStream already refcounted? (there's NS_ProxyRelease...)
  2284. # [23:35] <jesup> Or just go an make everyhting threadsafe! :-)
  2285. # [23:35] <philor> RyanVM: hey, sorry for the prolonged holiday - turns out that getting hooked in the eyeball with a fly is a less than ideal thing to do
  2286. # [23:35] <RyanVM> philor: owwwww
  2287. # [23:35] <Mook_as> oh, you have unsafe refcounting. nevermind, then :)
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  2293. # [23:37] <@roc> you can't make DOMMediaStream threadsafe
  2294. # [23:37] <@roc> it's a DOM object and cycle collected
  2295. # [23:38] <vlad> arg, anyone else see jsfiddle's layout busted on nightly?
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  2298. # [23:38] <vlad> any long "JavaScript" section has the scrollbar go way off the bottom of the window
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  2301. # [23:42] <jesup> Mook_as: why wouldn't NS_ProxyRelease() not work? I don't see it doing AddRef or Release off the target thread ever. Seems like what I was looking for...
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  2305. # [23:42] <jesup> I.e. NS_ProxyRelease(mStream); in ~MediaOperationRunnable()
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  2307. # [23:43] <Mook_as> oh, I thought it used a comptr; I guess it's using a raw ptr instead, so yay!
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  2312. # [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24fd5fefb4f2 - Jim Blandy - Bug 756581: Correctly track out-of-memory conditions in decompiler's Sprinter type. r=jorendorff
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  2314. # [23:47] <jesup> nsRefPtr actually (ProxyRelease uses .swap to null out the refptr and take the ref to send to the release thread)
  2315. # [23:47] <jesup> Mook_as: ^
  2316. # [23:48] <Mook_as> right, I thought NS_ProxyRelease was using a comptr (which means addrefing on the non-main thread), but it doesn't every actually do so on account of the swapo
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  2321. # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66888378b4ac - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 812119 - [HOMESCREEN] Must reboot after deleting an app to see its icon disappear from homescreen. r=fabrice. a=blocking-basecamp
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  2323. # [23:52] <edmorley|away> BenWa: re bug 717372, was it supposed to just check the srcdir copy was newer than the objdir? it seems that this could cause false positives after hg updating but not building. Is there some disadvantage to comparing the two files' contents, that I'm missing?
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  2325. # [23:53] <edmorley|away> s/hg updating/hg updating backwards-forwards-backwards/
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  2327. # [23:53] <BenWa> edmorley|away: No, I though the data would be enough
  2328. # [23:53] <BenWa> date*
  2329. # [23:53] <redfive> Hey, I'm trying to run some selenium test agains ffox and was wondering if there was anyone here who had some experience. Or perhaps a qa/ test channel ?
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  2332. # [23:54] <jhammel> AutomatedTester, whimboo : ^
  2333. # [23:54] <edmorley|away> BenWa: ok, was just trying to work out why jimm got the clobber needed error even though we haven't changed the file yet
  2334. # [23:54] <AutomatedTester> ?
  2335. # [23:54] <BenWa> edmorley|away: If we need a clobber by updating backwards, would updating back+forward not require a clobber?
  2336. # [23:54] <whimboo> redfive: AutomatedTester could probably help
  2337. # [23:55] <AutomatedTester> redfive: hey, whats up
  2338. # [23:55] <BenWa> I guess not in this artificial case
  2339. # [23:55] <edmorley|away> BenWa: not if we don't build whilst the CLOBBER file had the other value
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  2342. # [23:56] <BenWa> edmorley|away: Alright well in that case we should file a bug to compare the contents
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  2345. # [23:56] <BenWa> I had no good reason to do it that way but now we have one
  2346. # [23:56] <edmorley|away> BenWa: cool, I'll file and take a look tomorrow :-)
  2347. # [23:56] <redfive> AutomatedTester: hey, I'm getting an odd error that causes my selenium run to fail
  2348. # [23:56] <BenWa> edmorley|away: great, thanks for landing that
  2349. # [23:56] <redfive> I thought it was related to a 404 on favicon, but I fixed some stuff for my favicon and I'm still getting it.
  2350. # [23:57] <AutomatedTester> redfive: whats the error
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  2352. # [23:57] <redfive> Well, in the cls.selenium.quit() call, the response that gets checked has a 404 error in it
  2353. # [23:58] <redfive> But I'm not sure where it's coming from
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  2355. # [23:58] <redfive> Because my tests actually runs and succeeds
  2356. # [23:59] <redfive> (note, I'm testing a django app and using selenose)
  2357. # [23:59] * wlach|biab is now known as wlach
  2358. # [23:59] <redfive> I doubt it's actually a problem with ffox, and was just hoping someone might have a tip on where to look. I haven't found anything useful online yet.
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