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  1. # Session Start: Tue Dec 04 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <jwir3> anyone know off-hand what the standard reftest size is? is it 600x400?
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  5. # [00:00] <AutomatedTester> redfive: if you are getting 404 on quit() then its selenium server isnt understanding the command you are sending
  6. # [00:00] <AutomatedTester> redfive: since selenium speaks http
  7. # [00:00] <AutomatedTester> to drive the browser
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  9. # [00:00] <dholbert> jwir3, you mean the amount of space you should assume you have to work with in a reftest?
  10. # [00:00] <dholbert> jwir3, (and still be mobile-friendly?)
  11. # [00:01] <dholbert> jwir3, I think jmaher|afk was involved with the last discussion about that, but I don't remember the resulting bounds
  12. # [00:01] <jwir3> dholbert: no. I mean on desktop, what's the default pixel size of the loaded canvas...
  13. # [00:01] <jwir3> (in css px)
  14. # [00:01] <dholbert> oh, I want to say 800x1000, but not sure
  15. # [00:01] <redfive> AutomatedTester: okay, I did see something like that when I was trying to use chrome. Do you konw if there is a way to log/debug the selenium server?
  16. # [00:01] <dholbert> jwir3, yeah, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/reftest/reftest.js#248
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  18. # [00:01] <dholbert> 800x1000
  19. # [00:02] <jwir3> dholbert: thanks! That's twice today you've assisted me. Two points for dholbert
  20. # [00:02] <jwir3> :)
  21. # [00:02] <dholbert> \o/
  22. # [00:02] <AutomatedTester> redfive: where is selenose kept?
  23. # [00:02] <AutomatedTester> I want to see how up to date the code is
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  25. # [00:03] <redfive> AutomatedTester: https://github.com/shiningpanda/selenose/
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  27. # [00:04] <AutomatedTester> redfive: are you getting this constantly?
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  29. # [00:04] <AutomatedTester> it looks like selenose is slightly out of date but not much
  30. # [00:04] <redfive> AutomatedTester: nearly everytime, maybe 1 in 10 doesn't give the error
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  32. # [00:05] <jesup> roc: so, switching to NS_ProxyRelease() would seem to work so long as we only have one object to release. Might be nice to make one that you can give multiple pointers to, but in any case, I think this is the solution I was looking for. A templatized version that hides it from you would be even better.
  33. # [00:05] <redfive> I guess I'll just start poking through the code of selenose to see if I can isolate the issue
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  35. # [00:06] <AutomatedTester> redfive: I have seen sporadic issues about a 404
  36. # [00:06] <redfive> oh cool
  37. # [00:06] <redfive> (sort-of)
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  40. # [00:07] <AutomatedTester> but essentially selenium is speaking to something it thinks is the selenium server, either the addon in firefox or the java jar, and that doesnt understand the selenium routes
  41. # [00:07] <AutomatedTester> and what ever its speaking to is returning the 404
  42. # [00:08] <AutomatedTester> can you call /status on the url it thinks is the server?
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  44. # [00:08] <redfive> so I actually thing it may be the python selenium package getting used directly, but I can't be sure, I've installed so many nose plugins and some have worked I'm losing track.
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  46. # [00:09] <redfive> AutomatedTester: it's a 127.0.0.1 url, (I got that much out of one of the stacks in chrome)
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  48. # [00:09] <AutomatedTester> its the port thats important :)
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  50. # [00:09] <redfive> The server is spinning up as part of the test run, let me see if I can find some configuration on it, maybe I can break into that call...
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  53. # [00:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/305129d04cd1 - Joe Drew - Bug 802390 - Gracefully handle shutting down a decoder that hasn't had a chance to do any work. r=jrmuizel
  54. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c174a108843 - Joe Drew - Bug 804559 - Use correct rounding code instead of rolling our own. r=jrmuizel
  55. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cab6183755bb - Joe Drew - Bug 813090 - Fix license block on imported Chromium code. r=gerv
  56. # [00:11] <redfive> AutomatedTester: are there any specs or docs on how selenium and the webdriver stuff works?
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  58. # [00:11] <redfive> I can't find any deep, detailed documentationa and it's frustrating
  59. # [00:12] <AutomatedTester> redfive: did you look on Google Code where all the code is? https://code.google.com/p/selenium/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Fpy
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  62. # [00:12] <AutomatedTester> redfive: http://goo.gl/5yWoR
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  74. # [00:16] <redfive> AutomatedTester: looks like it is trying to delete the session:
  75. # [00:16] <redfive> http://127.0.0.1:4444/wd/hub/session/1354576020145
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  77. # [00:16] <AutomatedTester> and that is returning a 404?
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  79. # [00:17] <redfive> Yup
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  81. # [00:17] <AutomatedTester> redfive: that doesnt sound right
  82. # [00:18] <AutomatedTester> redfive: can you download the jar again from https://code.google.com/p/selenium/downloads/list
  83. # [00:18] <AutomatedTester> and replace it
  84. # [00:18] <redfive> Yeah!
  85. # [00:18] <redfive> Sure
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  91. # [00:25] <AutomatedTester> redfive: I have to go, feel free to go ask questions in #selenium on freenode
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  95. # [00:27] <redfive> AutomatedTester: thanks!
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  130. # [00:45] <jmaher|afk> jwir3: dholbert: we decided on 600x600 for the new target resolution of reftests; this will accomodate mobile browsers much better than 800x1000
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  213. # [01:42] <nemo> er?
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  216. # [01:44] <markh> my cluelessness with bash just cost me an hour :( I wonder if someone can set me straight. "echo $MOZCONFIG" shows me the name of a mozconfig file I'd previously set and subsequently removed with "export -n MOZCONFIG". However, 'export | grep MOZCONFIG' does *not* show it and the build process acted as if it was not set (ie, it used the default .mozconfig). Why did the 'echo' show me the previous, but not current value?
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  225. # [01:50] <markh> hrm - "export -n" will "un-export an environment variable and therefore demote it to become a shell variable while preserving its value."
  226. # [01:50] <markh> *sigh*
  227. # [01:50] <markh> I wanted 'unset'
  228. # [01:51] <jhammel> heh; yeah, i had never heard of export -n
  229. # [01:51] <dholbert> me either
  230. # [01:52] <markh> silly me once did "export --help" and it tersely said -n was an option without saying what it does. I tried it, it seemed to work, and I burnt a bad path in my brain
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  232. # [01:53] <mcpherrin> markh: in bash, a variable can be set but not exported. Echo is a shell built-in, so it sees the variable
  233. # [01:53] <jhammel> markh: ah, so like the reason i use emacs vs vim ;)
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  235. # [01:53] <mcpherrin> (random guess)
  236. # [01:53] <markh> mcpherrin: yeah, made perfect sense once I figured out that -n wasn't deleting it
  237. # [01:53] <jhammel> (although there is a /bin/echo as well)
  238. # [01:54] <markh> jhammel: :)
  239. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa8437087bad - Geoff Brown - Bug 816630 - Restore use of dist/fennec for Android xpcshell localLib; r=ahal, DONTBUILD
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  241. # [01:54] <jhammel> /bin/echo && /the/bunnyman
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  243. # [01:54] <markh> showing your age there!
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  247. # [01:55] <dholbert> mcpherrin, actually, doesn't matter whether echo is a builtin -- "echo $MOZCONFIG" evaluates $MOZCONFIG and passes its value to 'echo')
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  251. # [01:56] <seth> i only had enough disks for the .mods =(
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  263. # [02:03] <@bz_away> Has anyone seen bholley recently?
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  267. # [02:05] <@gavin> or so
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  335. # [02:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d6507e9d9ef2 - Makoto Kato - Bug 816004 - Change password mask timer to 1.5s on Gonk. f=vingtetun r=mwu a=lsblakk
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  340. # [02:49] <@bz_away> gavin: ah, I see
  341. # [02:49] <@bz_away> gavin: thanks!
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  368. # [03:08] <mjrosenb> bz: what happened now?
  369. # [03:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97bdf3a66177 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 815999 - Mark gray globals black before returning them to the debugger (r=mccr8)
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  397. # [03:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dcf727f6fba - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset b4b3522a6c08 (bug 815339) due to mochitest timeouts.
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  565. # [05:42] <@roc> IIRC chromium doesn't use GTK theming at all
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  568. # [05:45] <mjrosenb> good to know.
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  694. # [07:20] <heycam> I fear I may have asked this before, but: is there a pref I can set to stop the "do you want to start in safe mode?" window coming up after a non-clean exit last time?
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  702. # [07:29] <jesup> jduell: thanks! I just noticed the backout and went to fix the typo, and found you already had!
  703. # [07:30] <jduell> jesup: that's what friends are for.
  704. # [07:30] <jduell> Plus I've got stuff I want to land :P
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  712. # [07:32] <greatwarrior> jesup: hello
  713. # [07:32] <jesup> hi
  714. # [07:32] <greatwarrior> i wanted to discuss about bug 674239
  715. # [07:33] <greatwarrior> Scott told me to discuss with you.
  716. # [07:33] <glandium> jesup: while you're still around, are you satisfied with the last comment in bug 814693 ?
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  718. # [07:34] <jesup> looking at both
  719. # [07:34] <jesup> glandium: sure
  720. # [07:34] <glandium> thanks
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  722. # [07:35] <glandium> jesup: btw, do we maintain a list of patches against webrtc, like we do for other third-party libraries?
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  726. # [07:39] <jesup> glandium: No. I have a more complex merge procedure using a separate repo to manage pending-upstream changes and local mods, but it failed in practice because it added too much history to the hg repo. I need to create a replacement procedure. We try to upstream all non-mozilla-specific patches to media/webrtc/trunk (i.e. most stuff not in .gyp files). Currently we're carrying very few...
  727. # [07:40] <jesup> ...non-gyp mods other than deletions.
  728. # [07:41] <jesup> glandium: The relevant parts of the patch should be filed at webrtc.org as an Issue, and mark the issue URL/# in our bug
  729. # [07:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd841806e43b - Jason Duell - Bug 813869 - missing DoNotifyListener, invalid late error return in nsHttpChannel::AsyncOpen. r=mcmanus
  730. # [07:44] <jesup> greatwarrior: what's the question?
  731. # [07:45] <greatwarrior> why was the code put in the first place...and what exactly do i need to do now ?
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  734. # [07:49] <glandium> jesup: it's probably easier if you do it, looks like i'd have to clone upstream to do that :-(
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  736. # [07:50] <jesup> glandium: ok.
  737. # [07:50] <glandium> thanks
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  744. # [07:55] <greatwarrior> jesup: ?
  745. # [07:55] <jesup> greatwarrior: You read comment 1? And the relevant parts of the bug it was cloned off off?
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  750. # [07:57] <greatwarrior> ok.
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  823. # [09:17] <glandium> has anyone ever tried to do an osx build on a darwin system?
  824. # [09:18] <NeilAway> nemo: sorry, I was referring to Chatzilla faces
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  834. # [09:35] <glandium> oh, looks like i could use my linux box as a distcc host for mac builds
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  847. # [09:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3932ed990e9b - Chris Jones - Bug 813372: Guard against TiledTextureImage with dimensions of 0. r=mattwoodrow a=blocking-basecamp
  848. # [09:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54731c5fdc2c - Chris Jones - Test for bug 813372. r=mattwoodrow a=blocking-basecamp
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  853. # [09:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51daf14fd1f6 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 733630 part.2 Do hit test inside border r=jimm
  854. # [09:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4abd71e551a2 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 733630 Use native window border size if there is no content under mouse cursor r=jimm
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  875. # [10:06] <glandium> bwahaha it works
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  916. # [10:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ec0f2aade39 - Ed Morley - Backout fd841806e43b (bug 813869) for breaking M1, M2, reftest
  917. # [10:46] <NeilAway> glandium: this is with clang I take it?
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  921. # [10:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a82e1a6acbb6 - Benjamin Chen - Bug 804985 - [browser] don't try to zoom out wider than the page width r=cjones a=lsblakk
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  923. # [10:51] <glandium> NeilAway: yup
  924. # [10:51] <edmorley> bsmith: do you know when you'll be able to look at bug 761987?
  925. # [10:52] <bsmith> edmorely: it will probably be a week before I can start working on a fix. I have some ideas as to the cause though
  926. # [10:52] <glandium> NeilAway: it made my build more than twice as fast
  927. # [10:53] <edmorley> bsmith: great, thank you :-)
  928. # [10:53] <bsmith> np
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  939. # [11:07] <Ms2ger> You're improving our performance now? :)
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  941. # [11:13] <NeilAway> hsivonen: I don't suppose you know whether file: urls can be loaded synchronously?
  942. # [11:15] <jfkthame> NeilAway: (i'm not henri, but fwiw) i'm pretty sure the answer is no
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  953. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> edmorley, looks like I really should figure out who broke my tests :/
  954. # [11:35] <edmorley> heh :-)
  955. # [11:36] <Ms2ger> Is there a way to have OF show data on the three bugs combined?
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  961. # [11:41] <edmorley> Ms2ger: include filter?
  962. # [11:41] <edmorley> comma separated bug numbers
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  980. # [12:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d57e279d2b0 - Gene Lian - Bug 817945 - B2G MMS: Configure MMS proxy settings through SettingsService (follow-up). r=vicamo
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  988. # [12:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5df185a907f7 - L. David Baron - Make import-tests.py generate the current state of the reftest manifest, and warn that the file is autogenerated. (Bug 817810) No review.
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  1009. # [12:29] <hsivonen> NeilAway: I don’t. at least file: URLs aren’t exposed to the Web.
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  1015. # [12:37] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: will the code in the initial context at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=684594&action=diff#a/accessible/src/msaa/nsAccessNodeWrap.cpp_sec4 still work?
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  1048. # [13:28] <decoder> what was the difference between r= and rs= again? is there any?
  1049. # [13:28] <Callek> decoder: r=review rs=rubber-stamp
  1050. # [13:28] <Callek> basically the latter is "I can attest I didn't think long/hard about this patch, or necessarily even review it, but I'm willing to attach my name to let you check it in, if you trust your own change"
  1051. # [13:29] <decoder> heh :D
  1052. # [13:29] <Callek> primarily used for very very simple changes, or things where the description is enough to have confidence in *what* you did
  1053. # [13:29] <Callek> e.g. "rs+ for new makefiles added to allmakefiles.in"
  1054. # [13:29] <Callek> ;-)
  1055. # [13:29] <decoder> but they still include rs= into the commit message too?^^
  1056. # [13:30] <Callek> decoder: I do at least
  1057. # [13:30] <decoder> ok
  1058. # [13:30] <decoder> thx
  1059. # [13:30] <derf> ...
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  1062. # [13:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/006bc34d21fd - Christian Holler - Bug 811756: Handle NaN in IsLeapYear and fix a double/int issue. rs=Waldo
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  1065. # [13:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3712c48edfd0 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 817574 - Replace NS_ABS with std::abs. r=roc
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  1082. # [14:09] <tchevalier> mak, ping?
  1083. # [14:09] <mak> tchevalier: hi
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  1086. # [14:11] <tchevalier> mak: Hi :) I'm looking at your comments, sorry I wasn't clear, again :\
  1087. # [14:11] <mak> tchevalier: it's fine, thinking and rethinking I probably nailed it
  1088. # [14:12] <tchevalier> mak: About 737600 and the issue on comment 12, I fixed it on patch V4, so you can ignore comment 12
  1089. # [14:12] <mak> tchevalier: and since it was just 1am I decided to resplit the patches to help the review process, hope you don't mind
  1090. # [14:12] <mak> tchevalier: yes, but I actually didn't like patch V4
  1091. # [14:12] <tchevalier> No no, do what you want, no problem
  1092. # [14:12] <tchevalier> Ho :)
  1093. # [14:13] <mak> tchevalier: the problem is that patch V4 was imo workarounding a bug in patch V3 rather than fixing it. In my rebase of patch V3 I think I fixed that issue... so if you could test that I'd appreciate
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  1096. # [14:14] <mak> tchevalier: basically onchange was firing when the pref changed, not when the checkbox changed, but since it was using checkbox.checked it was still wrong. My fault since I probably suggested you to use the checkbox value. the right thing to do was to use the <preference> element value
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  1098. # [14:15] <tchevalier> mak: I tried patch V4, I saw nothing wrong, but I'll do a build with yours today
  1099. # [14:15] <mak> tchevalier: so I just basically replaced checkbox.checked with event.target.value
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  1101. # [14:16] <mak> tchevalier: yes, but patch v4 was using click handler on the checkbox, that was a bit strange and was not reacting to pref change... for example suppose you open in-content prefs, and change the value in about:config, your handler wouldn't be invoked
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  1103. # [14:16] <mak> tchevalier: there is still a similar issue with about:telemetry, it should listen to the pref changes, not just to the click
  1104. # [14:17] <mak> otherwise the button will report wrong status if you flip the pref elsewhere
  1105. # [14:17] <mib_043hdn> hi
  1106. # [14:17] <tchevalier> mak: Yes, but this is what is done in aboutTelemetry.js, I just copied. So we probably want to modify abouTelemetry.js?
  1107. # [14:18] <mak> tchevalier: yes I didn't do that, it's still to be done. we should add a pref changed listener and set rejected and rev in that listener, the existing click listener should just change the enabled pref
  1108. # [14:18] <mak> (in aboutTelemetry.js)
  1109. # [14:19] <mib_043hdn> yup
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  1112. # [14:21] <tchevalier> mak: Right, I'll try to do that after testing your patch
  1113. # [14:22] <mak> tchevalier: thanks
  1114. # [14:23] <mak> well, it's not my patch, I just resplitted yours :)
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  1121. # [14:27] <dao> jesup, can we meet up tomorrow?
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  1129. # [14:31] <dao> jesup, nevermind, sending mail
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  1135. # [14:35] <jesup> dao: ping (and checking mail)
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  1137. # [14:37] <jesup> dao: 16:30 EST should be fine, if that's good by you
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  1139. # [14:37] <dao> jesup: ok
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  1144. # [14:41] <_AxS_> Hey all ... so, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3111e57a9a7f ... there's a few outputs that are orange and a couple that are blue, as this is the first time i've even seen that screen (but i know there's been talk in here about things being orange and therefore having to be pulled out), does this mean the patch being tryed needs more work?
  1145. # [14:41] <Ms2ger> I'l have a look
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  1148. # [14:42] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, so, if you click the orange "R" on the Linux64 opt line...
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  1150. # [14:43] <_AxS_> Ahh, a log! nice
  1151. # [14:43] <Ms2ger> You'll see two failures, and a suggestion for each
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  1153. # [14:43] <Ms2ger> Click on the little star next to the suggestion
  1154. # [14:44] <Ms2ger> If it turned yellow, click on the other yellow star in the bottom-left corner
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  1156. # [14:45] <glandium> ted: would you know how to dump dwarf info from a lib on osx?
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  1158. # [14:46] <glandium> erf, there's dwarfdump
  1159. # [14:46] <@ted> heh
  1160. # [14:46] <glandium> mmmmm everything is empty
  1161. # [14:46] <@ted> yeah, you need to run dsymutil first
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  1164. # [14:46] <@ted> only gdb knows how to deal with the "all the DWARF in the .o files"
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  1166. # [14:47] <glandium> ah, so dsymutil links the dwarf info
  1167. # [14:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d96e2b73ecdb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 817931 - Don't restore the contents of the last closed window into a newly opened window if it's a private window; r=ttaubert
  1168. # [14:49] <_AxS_> Ms2ger: ..so what does those star's being highlighted do for me?
  1169. # [14:49] <@ted> glandium: yep
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  1171. # [14:49] <@ted> linker optimization
  1172. # [14:49] <@ted> not sure how much it actually pays off in real life, given that you need to run dsymutil to do anything useulf
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  1174. # [14:50] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, the highlighting means you selected the bug that applies to the test failure; clicking the one on the bottom-left will comment on the bug and in the test log
  1175. # [14:50] <Ms2ger> And adds a nice * next to the R
  1176. # [14:51] <_AxS_> ahok. The bug, is that something auto-filed? or does it somehow link back to the bug that a patch came from?
  1177. # [14:51] <Ms2ger> Bugs are filed for intermittent oranges by our excellent sheriffs
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  1179. # [14:53] <Ms2ger> edmorley, do we have a bug for GC crashes on Android?
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  1181. # [14:53] <_AxS_> Ms2ger: 'k thanks!!
  1182. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1186. # [14:55] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, apart from the Android M2, the rest should be straightforward to star
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  1190. # [14:56] <_AxS_> Ms2ger: ..and Android 2.2 armv6 opt 6 , since that one seems to be a hardware/paths issue on the tester
  1191. # [14:57] <gfritzsche> huh, i can't put a bug back into Firefox::Untriaged?
  1192. # [14:57] <gfritzsche> that component is missing in the list
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  1194. # [14:58] <gfritzsche> looks like it's still the component list for Core :/
  1195. # [14:58] <past> edmorley: B2G desktop nightlies in fx-team are burning. Known issue?
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  1199. # [14:59] <_AxS_> Ms2ger: so this run, it was done against whatever HEAD was at the time yes? not last-known-green-everywhere + my patch , correct?
  1200. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> gfritzsche, ah, if you change the product, just submit your changes and you'll get a new page to pick the component
  1201. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, it runs against what you pushed :)
  1202. # [15:00] <gfritzsche> Ms2ger: oh, good to know :)
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  1204. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, which looks like your patch over https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/88d710c57dc5
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  1206. # [15:01] <_AxS_> Ms2ger: so without that patch it would've been all green?
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  1208. # [15:01] <edmorley> Ms2ger: which gc crash?
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  1212. # [15:02] <_AxS_> ah, hm, that's not my patch. :) I guess i must have the wrong try
  1213. # [15:03] <edmorley> past: I've seen a similar issue, think it was clobber-needed (or else needs a more recently m-c pull); I'll clobber now
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  1215. # [15:03] <past> edmorley: thanks
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  1240. # [15:30] <josh> When we compile for Windows, do we somehow indicate to the Windows header files that we are compiling for Windows XP, such that symbols that appear first on Vista aren't exposed for use?
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  1245. # [15:31] <@ted> josh: we do set WINVER and some related things
  1246. # [15:31] <@ted> but i'm not sure that that's sufficient
  1247. # [15:32] <josh> I'm trying to use inet_ntop via Ws2tcpip.h, but it isn't available, just trying to make sure that is the reason
  1248. # [15:33] <vladan> can someone PM me the spamfilter password for Benjamin's status update page?
  1249. # [15:35] <Cwiiis> does anyone know how I get the style inspector to dock to the side of the window instead of the side of the bottom panel? It's kind of useless at that height :/
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  1251. # [15:36] <mkaply> Is there an easy way to view Firefox 16 code in mxr?
  1252. # [15:37] <sheppy> The release train has made it hard if not impossible to look at code for specific releases on MXR. :(
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  1267. # [15:44] <past> Cwiiis: I think there's a knob to try that, but paul should know for sure
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  1270. # [15:45] <Cwiiis> past, been looking, I'm probably missing something obvious... Hopefully someone will enlighten me :)
  1271. # [15:45] <Cwiiis> past, ah, paul did in #devtools - it's an about:config switch
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  1274. # [15:46] <past> yup
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  1283. # [15:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/878c535dfc60 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 806746 - Port test_bug462106.xul to the new per-window PB APIs; r=jdm
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  1353. # [16:42] <NeilAway> josh: I see #ifdef (NTDDI_VERSION >= NTDDI_VISTA) at the relevant point in WS2tcpip.h
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  1356. # [16:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0035f77045bc - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
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  1369. # [16:51] <robcee> gfritzsche: yes
  1370. # [16:51] <robcee> ?
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  1376. # [16:54] <gfritzsche> robcee: i was wondering wether i could move some js file used across components and mochitest-chrome and -plain into the mochitest structure?
  1377. # [16:55] <gfritzsche> so that i could avoid duplicating it
  1378. # [16:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d9989bb4d2f - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 200416 - Test; r=ehsan
  1379. # [16:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b86519c08a0 - Kai Engert - Bug 200416 - Account for blocks inside inlines when deleting; r=ehsan
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  1384. # [16:56] <robcee> gfritzsche: which file?
  1385. # [16:56] <robcee> I would say the answer is "probably"
  1386. # [16:57] <gfritzsche> robcee: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/layout/base/tests/chrome/paint_listener.js.html
  1387. # [16:58] <robcee> gfritzsche: yeah, that's probably ok. I'd check with dbaron or someone who knows layout for sure, but I doubt they'd have a problem with that
  1388. # [16:58] <robcee> doubly-so if it's already been copied around
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  1391. # [16:59] <gfritzsche> robcee: ok, thanks. so, where best to put it? testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/ and adjusting the Makefile.in there?
  1392. # [17:00] <robcee> yeah
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  1394. # [17:01] <gfritzsche> robcee: alright, do you know if mochitest-chrome needs something special for this?
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  1396. # [17:01] <gfritzsche> the above worked fine for mochitest-plain but not for -chrome
  1397. # [17:01] <robcee> you might want to rename paint_listener.js to be a little more like the other files in there while you're moving stuff around
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  1400. # [17:01] <robcee> special?
  1401. # [17:01] <robcee> it'll have to get included somewhere, I expect just adding it to the Makefile isn't going to be sufficient
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  1404. # [17:02] <edmorley> baku: btw your Try qparent is pretty old, you may wish to rebase (I'm starring some Try runs and there are intermittent failures on your push that are fixed on trunk tip)
  1405. # [17:03] <baku> edmorley, ok thank you.
  1406. # [17:03] <gfritzsche> robcee: you don't know offhand where i assume? :)
  1407. # [17:03] <NeilAway> I notice our tests have a mixture of data:text/html,charset=utf8 and utf-8, is there any difference apart from amount of typing?
  1408. # [17:03] <baku> updating
  1409. # [17:03] <edmorley> baku: :-)
  1410. # [17:04] <robcee> I forget!
  1411. # [17:04] <robcee> ctalbert|afk or gavin might know
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  1422. # [17:12] <ctalbert|afk> robcee, gfritzsche if I recall correctly, you need to add it to the testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest directory to be picked up by mochi-plain and then modify the testing/mochitest/jar.mn file to package it for chrome mochitests
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  1424. # [17:13] <gfritzsche> ctalbert|afk: ah, thank you
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  1427. # [17:14] <ctalbert|afk> np
  1428. # [17:14] <edmorley> espindola: the linux xpcshell orange on your try push (871c93d1a40c) is a known intermittent btw
  1429. # [17:14] <@ted> jlebar|mac: ping
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  1431. # [17:14] <edmorley> espindola: (bug 704368)
  1432. # [17:14] <jlebar|mac> ted: hey, I'm looking at bug 817946 now, if that's what you wanted to ask about.
  1433. # [17:14] <jlebar|mac> ted: the first stack in comment 6 looks totally bogus.
  1434. # [17:14] <@ted> read my mind
  1435. # [17:15] <@ted> those aren't really...stacks
  1436. # [17:15] <@ted> they're more like artistic interpretation of stack traces
  1437. # [17:15] <edmorley> espindola: the build red looks like bug 774844
  1438. # [17:15] <@ted> jlebar|mac: the only two frames i trust there are __libc_init and main
  1439. # [17:15] <@ted> :)
  1440. # [17:15] <jlebar|mac> ted: Oh good.
  1441. # [17:15] <jlebar|mac> ted: So now that that's out of the way, how can I help?
  1442. # [17:15] <espindola> edmorley, thanks
  1443. # [17:16] <@ted> i have a tool that just scans the entire stack of the crashing thread and spits out everything that is an address inside a function
  1444. # [17:16] <@ted> so that's what you get
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  1446. # [17:16] <edmorley> espindola: yw
  1447. # [17:16] <jlebar|mac> Ah, I see.
  1448. # [17:16] <@ted> jlebar|mac: so the only commonality here is a) stacks are horribly busted and b) those both have free()
  1449. # [17:16] <@ted> so i worry that this is heap corruption
  1450. # [17:16] <@ted> and this is on b2g
  1451. # [17:17] <jlebar|mac> well, I can look at that line and see what it's doing...
  1452. # [17:17] <jlebar|mac> Oh, interesting, that's bionic, not jemalloc.
  1453. # [17:17] <jlebar|mac> what are we doing in there?
  1454. # [17:17] <@ted> i don't know that we're going to get any traction on these without finding STR
  1455. # [17:17] <@ted> i don't know!
  1456. # [17:17] <@ted> i don't know if we're even actually in there
  1457. # [17:17] <jorendorff> What's the easiest way to just stuff some arbitrary XML data in a XUL file?
  1458. # [17:17] <@ted> but the fact that it showed up in both stacks is pretty suspicious
  1459. # [17:17] * jorendorff tries just pasting it in
  1460. # [17:18] <jlebar|mac> ted: Well, the libc.so!free line is
  1461. # [17:18] <jlebar|mac> void free(void* mem) {
  1462. # [17:18] <jlebar|mac> __libc_malloc_dispatch->free(mem);
  1463. # [17:18] <jlebar|mac> }
  1464. # [17:18] <@ted> hmm
  1465. # [17:18] <jlebar|mac> So one question is whether that actually calls jemalloc.
  1466. # [17:19] <@ted> i was hoping you would know
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  1468. # [17:19] <jlebar|mac> ted: Which…looks unlikely.
  1469. # [17:19] <@ted> we don't hook system malloc on gonk, do we?
  1470. # [17:19] <@ted> we just handle gecko allocations?
  1471. # [17:19] <jlebar|mac> ted: Just allocs by the gecko process, but this is in that process, right?
  1472. # [17:19] <@ted> anyway there's a whole slew of crashes like this on B2G with horrible stacks and the top frame is a bare address
  1473. # [17:19] <NeilAway> jorendorff: stick it inside a hidden element?
  1474. # [17:19] <@ted> it's plugin-container, so yeah
  1475. # [17:20] <jlebar|mac> yeah
  1476. # [17:20] <@ted> but i really don't know what's happening
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  1479. # [17:20] <jlebar|mac> ted: Understood.
  1480. # [17:20] <jlebar|mac> ted: Let's ask glandium, if he's around.
  1481. # [17:20] <@ted> glandium: ^^
  1482. # [17:20] <NeilAway> jorendorff: in fact, there's a <data> element for this
  1483. # [17:20] <jorendorff> NeilAway: \o/
  1484. # [17:21] <jorendorff> NeilAway: just, <data id="whatever"> and use the DOM to get it? this is perfect
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  1486. # [17:21] <jlebar|mac> glandium: The question is whether it's suspicious to see libc.so!free (bionic's malloc_debug_common.c : 224) in a perhaps-stack from B2G. That code appears to be calling dlfree.
  1487. # [17:21] <NeilAway> jorendorff: yeah, should be fine
  1488. # [17:21] <glandium> jemalloc should be using for almost everything on b2g (due to the use of LD_PRELOAD), except for stuff internal to libc, which will call the malloc functions directory (no PLT calls)
  1489. # [17:21] <jlebar|mac> glandium: Although to be fair, another perhaps-stack has both libc.so!free and mozglue.so!arena_avail_tree_insert.
  1490. # [17:22] <jorendorff> it is such a good feeling that what i want to do already exists
  1491. # [17:22] <glandium> s/using/used/
  1492. # [17:22] <jlebar|mac> glandium: I feel like you probably answered my question, but I'm not sure how to translate.
  1493. # [17:23] <NeilAway> mrbkap: do async callbacks get invoked on code in closed windows? what's the best way to check, just if (window.closed) return; ?
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  1497. # [17:24] <glandium> jlebar|mac: it's not suspicious in the sense that it's expected to happen in a few cases, but it's suspicious as part of a crash because that could suggest allocator mismatch
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  1499. # [17:24] <jlebar|mac> glandium: I see. So we want to try getting better stacks, I guess.
  1500. # [17:25] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: ping
  1501. # [17:25] <jlebar|mac> ted: Why aren't the stacks in the bug longer?
  1502. # [17:25] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: pong
  1503. # [17:25] <jlebar|mac> ted: Like, you scan the thread's whole stack, and you print everything which looks like a code address, but it's still too short.
  1504. # [17:25] <@ted> jlebar|mac: your guess is as good as mine
  1505. # [17:25] <@ted> that's literally all that's there
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  1507. # [17:26] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: what's our min gcc requirement these days? 4.4?
  1508. # [17:26] <@bsmedberg> I have no clue
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  1510. # [17:26] <jcranmer> ...
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  1512. # [17:27] <jcranmer> put another way, if I broke 4.3, would anyone complain?
  1513. # [17:27] <@bsmedberg> I also don't know.
  1514. # [17:27] <@bsmedberg> I expect we might need 4.4 now
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  1516. # [17:27] <froydnj> jcranmer: 4.4 is the min required
  1517. # [17:27] <glandium> jcranmer: 4.4 is our minimum currently
  1518. # [17:28] <jlebar|mac> ted: Well, I guess I'll comment in the bug. :-/
  1519. # [17:28] <jcranmer> I know 4.4 is necessary
  1520. # [17:28] <jcranmer> just wanting to know if I should recommend someone rip out a check for 4.3
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  1522. # [17:29] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that should be fine
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  1528. # [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f51eb7d2a8de - Jason Orendorff - Bug 800586 - jsdbg2: Compartment assertion when calling direct eval from evalInGlobal code. r=jimb.
  1529. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d675239f3ca7 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 800410 - Debugger.Object.prototype.defineProperty needs to check that getters/setters are actually callable objects. r=jimb.
  1530. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2140f915a307 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 816638 - Add nondeterministicGetWeakMapKeys to the JS shell. r=jcoppeard.
  1531. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b2331322084 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 744730 - jsdbg2: Fix assertion when processing onPop hook for a frame which the Debugger has forced to return. r=jimb.
  1532. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7fd23ced4ee - Constellation - Bug 802155 - Reflect.parse: Add "of" field to comprehension block. r=jorendorff.
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  1538. # [17:34] <glandium> jcranmer: you can replace old checks with a version check rejecting gcc < 4.4 at configure time (instead of failing much later during the build with random errors due to our use of unsupported C++ forms)
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  1540. # [17:35] <@ted> jlebar|mac: could be it really is crashing very near main
  1541. # [17:35] <@ted> and then the stack is getting mangled enough to make it hard to determine that
  1542. # [17:35] * @ted is going to eat lunch
  1543. # [17:35] <@ted> jcranmer: FWIW I'm fine with explicitly requiring gcc >= 4.4
  1544. # [17:35] <glandium> ted: that makes 2 of us :)
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  1546. # [17:37] <randix> ping: anyone developing using Windows Vista Business?
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  1550. # [17:43] <jcranmer> we need a nice matrix of which compiler versions are supported on which platforms
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  1552. # [17:43] <jcranmer> [including C++11 mode]
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  1554. # [17:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/862a1b08d3e5 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 816695 - Blocklist llvmpipe graphics driver - r=jgilbert
  1555. # [17:44] <glandium> jcranmer: i find http://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/C++0xCompilerSupport useful
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  1557. # [17:45] <jcranmer> glandium: I made my own document of C++11 support features
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  1561. # [17:45] <glandium> jcranmer: interesting, where is it? :)
  1562. # [17:45] <jcranmer> glandium: I sent out a copy to m.d.platform several months ago
  1563. # [17:46] <jcranmer> glandium: but it's more that I'm not sure if we always compile with C++11 on android
  1564. # [17:46] <glandium> jcranmer: i think we don't
  1565. # [17:47] <glandium> jcranmer: best way to know is to check the build logs
  1566. # [17:47] <glandium> maybe the NDK headers don't have the bug that makes us disable C++11 with gcc 4.4
  1567. # [17:48] <glandium> jcranmer: btw, fwiw, clang/linux usually builds without C++11 support (yay)
  1568. # [17:48] <glandium> (thanks to another C++ header bug)
  1569. # [17:48] <jcranmer> ah yes, there's one clang-on-linux bug due to a glibc header including __int128_t or something
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  1572. # [17:49] <glandium> jcranmer: libstdc++ header, using __float128 http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=13530
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  1576. # [17:50] <jcranmer> I fix it by commenting out that code in /usr/include :-P
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  1578. # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> glandium: what's VMX and does it actually help?
  1579. # [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d8722babb63 - Jim Blandy - Bug 506717: GDB pretty-printing support for SpiderMonkey. r=sfink,ted
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  1582. # [17:54] <glandium> bsmedberg: what's the context?
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  1585. # [17:54] <@bsmedberg> glandium: bug 817042 and bug 817075
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  1588. # [17:55] <@bsmedberg> VMX acceleration for UTF8 conversion... there may be more patches elsewhere
  1589. # [17:55] <hsivonen> it's now 2 hours and 10 minutes to the platform meeting and the UTC time is bogus, right?
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  1591. # [17:55] <@bsmedberg> hsivonen: correct
  1592. # [17:55] <hsivonen> thanks
  1593. # [17:56] * @bsmedberg wonders when the last time he built windows was
  1594. # [17:56] <glandium> bsmedberg: ah, looks like it's another name for the altivec instruction set
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  1596. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> WindowsError: [Error 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'c:/builds/mo
  1597. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> zilla-central/src/build/virtualenv/packages.txt\\Lib'
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  1599. # [17:56] <glandium> which is confusing, because it's also an instruction set on intel processors, for virtual machines
  1600. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> does that error look familiat at all?
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  1603. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> glandium: yeah, I thought I recognized "VMX" as a virtualization technology
  1604. # [17:57] <glandium> bsmedberg: considering how ambiguous this is, it would be better to have these patches refer to altivec instead
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  1606. # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> glandium: Do you think they're worthwhile at all? Is this a common extension nowadays?
  1607. # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> and is this x86 or x86-64?
  1608. # [17:58] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's powerpc
  1609. # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> oh
  1610. # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> that sounds... unimportant
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  1612. # [17:59] <glandium> bsmedberg: not for people running powerpc :)
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  1615. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> who is that?
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  1617. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> but even then, this seems like small-potatoes optimizations
  1618. # [17:59] <@ted> there aren't any desktop PPC machines shipping anymore, are they?
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  1620. # [18:00] <@ted> i guess if you're running gecko on a console
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  1622. # [18:00] <_AxS_> ted: as in shipping new? afaik no. but there's still tons deployed
  1623. # [18:00] <_AxS_> esp. in schools and such
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  1625. # [18:01] <glandium> bsmedberg: wii u, ps3, xbox 360, all are ppc ; there are also people using old ppc macs (yeah, really), and ibm is still doing ppc machines, but i don't now if anyone runs firefox on them.
  1626. # [18:02] <@ted> _AxS_: sure, but we don't officially support any of that
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  1628. # [18:02] <@bsmedberg> tier 3, of course
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  1633. # [18:03] <_AxS_> xbox360 is ppc ; wow, figured that one'd be intel.
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  1635. # [18:04] <@bsmedberg> hrm, "Python 2.7 or above is required to run mach. You are running 2.6.5"
  1636. # [18:04] <@bsmedberg> I guess I need a mozillabuild upgrade?
  1637. # [18:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c9b4cb56681 - Steven Lee - Bug 817919 - Remove FM radio implementations in hal_sandbox. r=cjones
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  1642. # [18:06] <glandium> _AxS_: the xbox was intel
  1643. # [18:06] <jcranmer> _AxS_: x86 is a rather crappy ISA for video games :-)
  1644. # [18:06] <@ted> bsmedberg: mozillabuild has shipped 2.7 for a while
  1645. # [18:07] <@ted> the original xbox was mostly just a PC
  1646. # [18:07] <@bsmedberg> apparently I haven't needed it until now
  1647. # [18:07] <glandium> jcranmer: s/for video games//
  1648. # [18:07] <glandium> bsmedberg: you must have a pretty old mercurial, too
  1649. # [18:07] <@ted> lots easier to ship PPC when you don't have to support a whole lot of legacy software
  1650. # [18:07] <@bsmedberg> could be!
  1651. # [18:08] <jcranmer> well, the rule of thumb for mozillabuild is you download it when you first build Firefox
  1652. # [18:08] <jcranmer> and then forget about it until you have a build problem
  1653. # [18:08] <@ted> yup
  1654. # [18:09] <@ted> gps and i were musing about whether we could revamp mozillabuild with the new in-tree bootstrap scripts
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  1656. # [18:09] <@ted> ditch the installer, make the bootstrap script able to install individual components
  1657. # [18:09] <@ted> then you could just say "you need a newer python, run bootstrap.py again to get it"
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  1667. # [18:13] <randix> bsmedberg - do you know of anyone compiling firefox under Windows Vista Business?
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  1698. # [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ff1aebd2c706 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 791447 - Move about:newTab data to preferences. r=gavin a=akeybl
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  1713. # [18:38] <vingtetun> does a NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE is caught by a try/catch on a non-debug build?
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  1715. # [18:41] <Ms2ger> Should always be caught
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  1717. # [18:43] <vingtetun> ok thanks. now i need to understand what i have done wrong then.
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  1728. # [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b87db9d60554 - Ed Morley - Bug 765200 - Shorten errors of type: "an unexpected uncaught JS exception reported through window.onerror - ..."; r=jmaher
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  1736. # [18:52] <@smaug> how do I run just one browser chrome test?
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  1738. # [18:52] <@gavin> smaug: --test-path can point to a single file
  1739. # [18:53] <@smaug> ah
  1740. # [18:53] <@smaug> thanks
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  1752. # [18:57] <NeilAway> randix: if it helps, I compile it under Windows Server 2008, which is similar
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  1758. # [18:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8de8954a383c - Mark Finkle - Bug 817775 - Marketplace promo is active on beta on about:home, but it shouldn't be r=blassey a=akeybl
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  1760. # [18:58] <randix> NeilAway: I cannot get Visual Studio C++ installed, it claims that I need a newer Service Pack, but they are all installed. VS 2010 and VS2012 refuse to install.
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  1763. # [19:00] <@ted> i don't think anyone here is going to be able to troubleshoot that problem
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  1768. # [19:01] <randix> I fear that you're right. I wanted to do some testing under Vista, probably need to try a different version of Vista
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  1772. # [19:03] <@ted> do you really need to build on vista?
  1773. # [19:03] <@ted> or can you build elsewhere and just test that build on vista?
  1774. # [19:04] <_AxS_> randix: M$ has support for such things -- i mean, the issue is definitely between Windows and VS, right?
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  1778. # [19:05] <randix> _AxS_: seems that that is the problem. I will try M$ direct...
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  1781. # [19:05] <randix> or as ted suggests, build on Win7 and test there.
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  1785. # [19:06] <@ted> randix: i mean, if you just need to run a test build, you can build on another system and copy the build over
  1786. # [19:06] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
  1787. # [19:06] <@ted> i do that all the time with WinXP VMs etc
  1788. # [19:06] <jdm> ehsan: pong
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  1791. # [19:06] <@ehsan> jdm: so... are you gonna fix the windows tests today? ;)
  1792. # [19:06] <_AxS_> randix: yeah if you have VS already installed on another system, build it there
  1793. # [19:06] <@ehsan> the rest is green now
  1794. # [19:06] <jdm> ehsan: yep, should be good
  1795. # [19:07] <@ehsan> cool
  1796. # [19:07] <@ehsan> thanks a lot!
  1797. # [19:07] <jdm> ehsan: I'm stepping through your download manager patch right now, though
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  1799. # [19:07] <@ehsan> jdm: oh great, sorry please don't get distracted from that! :)
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  1801. # [19:08] <randix> ted, that would indeed be less work. The rabbit path there is getting the right DLLs, in particular MSVCR110D.dll
  1802. # [19:08] <@ted> it's not incredibly hard
  1803. # [19:08] <@ted> we do it for our test machines
  1804. # [19:09] <@ted> there's a .msm file that comes with vc++
  1805. # [19:09] <@ted> you can convert that to an msi and just install it
  1806. # [19:09] <@ted> or just copy the debug DLLs next to the app
  1807. # [19:09] <randix> ted, no, I'll take that path
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  1810. # [19:10] <randix> ted: Thanks!
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  1815. # [19:11] <vlad> who's a good person who can answer some straightforward qeustions regarding gecko embedding?
  1816. # [19:11] <vlad> (from an important partner, though the embedding work is orthogonal to the partnership)
  1817. # [19:12] <@khuey> bsmedberg?
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  1820. # [19:13] <@bsmedberg> vlad: me, I guess :-(
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  1824. # [19:14] <@bsmedberg> I don't really want to be that guy, but oh well.
  1825. # [19:14] <vlad> the questions are pretty simple
  1826. # [19:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b419a7a354c - Tom Schuster - Bug 797970 - Use stdint types in IonMonkey. r=jandem
  1827. # [19:14] <@smaug> we should have hired romaxa to do some embedding work.
  1828. # [19:15] <fabrice> smaug: we tried several times
  1829. # [19:15] <@smaug> and we failed
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  1831. # [19:15] <fabrice> yes, for mostly administrative reasons :(
  1832. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> evilpie++
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  1838. # [19:21] <ejpbruel> akeybl: ping
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  1846. # [19:24] <glandium> smaug: use mach
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  1848. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde++
  1849. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> glandium, unless you need a debugger :/
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  1851. # [19:25] <glandium> Ms2ger: that's still not fixed?
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  1853. # [19:25] <gps> patches welcome!
  1854. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> glandium, no, someone who understands the logging setup needs to figure it out
  1855. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> And by that I mean gps
  1856. # [19:26] * gps needs to rewrite that
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  1860. # [19:28] <randix> ted: I'm now able to test on Vista. thanks again.
  1861. # [19:28] <@ted> np
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  1866. # [19:31] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: ?
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  1868. # [19:32] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, prmem
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  1871. # [19:32] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: oh, yeah I should have gotten to landing that a while ago :/
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  1881. # [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a0c471957b7 - Malini Das - Bug 816246 - Add a 'timeout' kwarg to execute_* in marionette, r=jgriffin
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  1894. # [19:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3abd0a172398 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 817710 - Upgrade clang to 169139 in the 3.2 branch. r=rail.
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  1900. # [19:50] <gcp> froydnj: ping
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  1924. # [20:00] <jhammel> is anyone else having problems pushing to try or is it just me?
  1925. # [20:00] * jhammel guesses the latter
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  1928. # [20:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dafb0368260c - Richard Newman - Bug 817842 - Announcements: use previous Date header for next If-Modified-Since to avoid clock skew. r=nalexander
  1929. # [20:02] <jhammel> ah, nm, it is that damn jhammel@mozilla.com@hg.mozilla.org vs jhammel@hg.mozilla.org thing
  1930. # [20:02] * jhammel tries to recall how to fix that
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  1934. # [20:03] <@bz> Man
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  1936. # [20:03] <@bz> this email is awesome
  1937. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> Don't leave us hanging now :)
  1938. # [20:04] <@bz> <u><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Avenir Light&quot;;color=
  1939. # [20:04] <@bz> :blue">www.clearbenefits.com</span></u>
  1940. # [20:04] <sfink> jhammel: I fixed it with a ~/.ssh/config containing "Host hg.mozilla.org\n\tUser sfink@mozilla.com"
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  1943. # [20:04] <@bz> (ignore the random mail and HTML encoding; just think about what it ends up looking like in a mail client)
  1944. # [20:04] <sfink> but you might have to change your name to sfink for that to work
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  1948. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> A blue link in some font?
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  1950. # [20:05] <@bz> Ms2ger: no, blue underlined text in some font
  1951. # [20:05] <@bz> Ms2ger: which is emphatically NOT a link.
  1952. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> Oh, duh
  1953. # [20:05] * Waldo notes the .ssh/config thing is in our instructions, last he remembered
  1954. # [20:05] <@bz> Ms2ger: but effing should be!
  1955. # [20:05] * Ms2ger thought the u was an a
  1956. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> Why? Dunno
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  1959. # [20:06] <Ms2ger> bz, ... but, surely that's how you create a link? :)
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  1962. # [20:06] <sfink> bz: that's missing "; cursor=hand"
  1963. # [20:06] <sfink> (or something like that)
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  1966. # [20:06] <@khuey> bz: I see I wasn't the only one to fall for that
  1967. # [20:07] <Ms2ger> Plain text email \o/
  1968. # [20:08] <@bz> sfink: lol
  1969. # [20:08] <@bz> khuey: fwiw, I replied pointing out the issue
  1970. # [20:08] <@bz> Ms2ger: plaintext wouldn't autolinkify this without the http:// :(
  1971. # [20:09] <@bz> (but maybe should...
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  1973. # [20:09] <Ms2ger> bz, tb seems to handle that fine
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  1976. # [20:10] <@bz> Ms2ger: really?
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  1978. # [20:10] * @bz tests
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  1980. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> In the case of a plaintext draft with just that URL in it
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  1982. # [20:11] <Waldo> if this is in the "2013 Flexible Spending Account Open Enrollment" mail, that didn't get linked up by TB
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  1985. # [20:11] <@ted> yeah
  1986. # [20:11] <@bz> Ms2ger: so it does!
  1987. # [20:12] <@bz> Waldo: it didn't get linked up because it's multipart
  1988. # [20:12] <@bz> Waldo: and has an HTML part
  1989. # [20:12] <@bz> Waldo: and TB doesn't autolinkify HTML mail because... well
  1990. # [20:12] <@bz> Waldo: Maybe it should!
  1991. # [20:12] <Waldo> well, yes; I thought Ms2ger was saying TB would autolinkify in HTML mail
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  1993. # [20:12] <Waldo> which...meh
  1994. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> <bz> Ms2ger: plaintext wouldn't autolinkify this without the http:// :(
  1995. # [20:12] * Waldo isn't sure about either system
  1996. # [20:12] <@bz> No, he was saying "plaintext \o/"
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  1999. # [20:13] <Waldo> oh, I missed his "in the case of" bit
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  2001. # [20:13] <Waldo> which, well, duh, plaintext gets munged better (probably HTML doesn't even get munged, on the assumption the sender did it)
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  2008. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> bz, 'all numeric types other than "unsigned long" [always return the same value type]' <-- how about 64-bit ints?
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  2015. # [20:18] <@bz> Ms2ger: I forgot we have those
  2016. # [20:18] * @bz looks at how we handle them
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  2018. # [20:18] <seif> hey guys
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  2020. # [20:18] <@bz> elif tag in [IDLType.Tags.int64, IDLType.Tags.uint64,
  2021. # [20:18] <@bz> IDLType.Tags.unrestricted_float, IDLType.Tags.float,
  2022. # [20:18] <@bz> ...
  2023. # [20:18] <@bz> return (setValue("JS_NumberValue(double(%s))" % result), True)
  2024. # [20:19] <dholbert> jwir3, is it possible to test https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674239 ? (will there be a user-visible effect from that change?)
  2025. # [20:19] <Ms2ger> Ah, good
  2026. # [20:19] <@bz> bah
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  2028. # [20:19] <@bz> That will do double-or-int
  2029. # [20:19] <@bz> for doubles too
  2030. # [20:19] <@bz> That's actually kinda annoying
  2031. # [20:19] <seif> thanks for doing an awesome job in general with firefox and all the mozilla products
  2032. # [20:19] <@bz> seif: Thank you!
  2033. # [20:19] <seif> its amazing to get so many contirbutors
  2034. # [20:20] <jwir3> dholbert: yeah, amod and I were discussing just that right now (amod = greatwarrior)
  2035. # [20:20] <dholbert> nice
  2036. # [20:20] <jwir3> dholbert: well, maybe ;)
  2037. # [20:20] <seif> I am trying to cotnirbute myself, and the one thing i stumbled upon on the website is "what is your programing language"
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  2039. # [20:20] <seif> i chose python and it sent me to a wiki that was more or less tl;dr
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  2041. # [20:20] <@bz> seif: ah, this is jdm's thing?
  2042. # [20:20] <jwir3> dholbert: It's unclear whether the behavior of the bug actually exhibits itself any longer. I'm not sure we can construct a test, but we might be able to.
  2043. # [20:20] <jwir3> greatwarrior: ^
  2044. # [20:21] <jwir3> (backscroll) greatwarrior: <dholbert> jwir3, is it possible to test https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674239 ? (will there be a user-visible effect from that change?)
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  2046. # [20:21] <seif> so i was thinking to myself for starters what do you think, if we extracted all python related bugs from bugzilla (most probably webdev) and sort them via recency, popularity and difficutly
  2047. # [20:21] <seif> bz: ^
  2048. # [20:21] <jwir3> dholbert, greatwarrior: as for a user-visible effect, I would say no, but I'm not 100% sure. We can double-check that for sure.
  2049. # [20:22] <jwir3> I'm like 86% sure there will be no user-visible effect
  2050. # [20:22] <jwir3> :D
  2051. # [20:22] <dholbert> jwir3, :)
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  2053. # [20:22] <seif> jdm: ŵhat do you think?
  2054. # [20:23] * greatwarrior is confused about what is going on
  2055. # [20:23] <jdm> seif: it's not an unreasonable idea. http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ already does that to some extent
  2056. # [20:23] <jwir3> dholbert: well, to be honest, I rounded. it's more like an 85.9182671% certainty
  2057. # [20:23] <Ms2ger> seif, fwiw, python is mostly used in web development and automation (test running / build system / ...)
  2058. # [20:23] <dholbert> jwir3, fair enough
  2059. # [20:23] <jwir3> (obviously, the last significant digit is a guess)
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  2061. # [20:23] <greatwarrior> jwir3: how did you calculate that ?
  2062. # [20:23] <jwir3> greatwarrior: I'm kidding around ;)
  2063. # [20:24] <greatwarrior> jwir3: heh
  2064. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> seif, most of the code that runs Firefox is C++ or JS
  2065. # [20:24] <seif> jdm: Ms2ger: I am looking at this as a new contributor... how can we make getting involved easier. I mean the first steps are done. 1) Nice IRC ppl 2) nice wikis
  2066. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> :D
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  2068. # [20:24] <jdm> seif: yeah, I appreciate your viewpoint. Have you seen the tool that I just linked?
  2069. # [20:24] <seif> Ms2ger: Thanks I looked at the code, also I wrote some xul extensions
  2070. # [20:25] <greatwarrior> Ms2ger: hello
  2071. # [20:25] <seif> jdm: its exactly what i am looking for
  2072. # [20:25] <seif> thanks
  2073. # [20:25] <Ms2ger> Hi greatwarrior
  2074. # [20:25] <greatwarrior> Ms2ger: any further discussion between you and mounir regarding that bug ? :D
  2075. # [20:25] <Ms2ger> greatwarrior, only that I seriously don't know anything :)
  2076. # [20:26] <seif> jdm: would it be possible to sort them via poplarity (amount of comments on bugzilla) ?
  2077. # [20:26] <Wes> I'm not sure about #1
  2078. # [20:26] <jdm> seif: personally, I don't think that's actually a useful metric
  2079. # [20:26] <seif> jdm: call it "hot sutff" :P
  2080. # [20:26] <greatwarrior> Ms2ger: actually i didnt do anything except removing a line and creating a patch of it :P
  2081. # [20:26] <Wes> that ms2ger guy, I have nightmares about him
  2082. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> Wes, I try :)
  2083. # [20:26] <seif> jdm: :( can you elaborate?
  2084. # [20:26] <Wes> GAH!
  2085. # [20:26] <Wes> ;)
  2086. # [20:27] <greatwarrior> jwir3: where were we ? :P
  2087. # [20:27] <NeilAway> bz: yeah, I think there's a www. prefix heuristic for the text to html converter
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  2089. # [20:27] <jwir3> greatwarrior: I think we need to try and create a test for the behavior described in the description of the bug
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  2091. # [20:27] <jdm> seif: I don't see a benefit to sorting them by number of comments, which seems arbitrary to me. A popularity measure in general doesn't sound very useful either, since it doesn't expose any new information about the task.
  2092. # [20:28] <jdm> seif: if you're talking about something more like desireability from the point of view of the task creator, I can see value in that, but I have no idea how to expose that information.
  2093. # [20:28] <jwir3> greatwarrior: We need to make sure that animations a) aren't animating too fast and b) display the same frame if a negative integer for timeout is specified
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  2095. # [20:28] <greatwarrior> jwir3: ok.
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  2097. # [20:29] <seif> jdm: good point, so how can we expose bugs that are highly desireable, what are the minimal requirments to label something as highly desireable?
  2098. # [20:29] <jwir3> greatwarrior: See if you can find a testcase in the previous bugs that were discussed when that original change was made
  2099. # [20:29] <jimb> ted: r=me on bug 811335.
  2100. # [20:29] <jwir3> (I'll see if I can do the same)
  2101. # [20:29] <seif> jdm: if several ppl are reporting the same bug then its a must fix right?
  2102. # [20:30] <@ted> jimb: thx
  2103. # [20:30] <seif> how do duplicated appear in bugzilla
  2104. # [20:30] <jdm> seif: I'm presuming you're trying to solve a problem here, and that that problem is "I see a lot of tasks, and I want to find the highest-impact work I can do for my skill level" or something like that?
  2105. # [20:30] <seif> ?
  2106. # [20:30] <jimb> ted: err, on the breakpad patch referenced from that bugzilla bug.
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  2108. # [20:30] <seif> jdm: yes sir
  2109. # [20:30] <jdm> seif: I respect that, and it's a challenging problem :)
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  2111. # [20:30] <greatwarrior> jwir3: any way of decoding any bug ? so that i will come to know what files are used in the bug ?
  2112. # [20:31] <greatwarrior> since the test will be in some file....like a js file
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  2114. # [20:31] <jwir3> greatwarrior: I'm not sure what you mean...
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  2116. # [20:31] <jdm> seif: there are a couple problems here - most tasks that are specified as mentored on that list are not ones that are time sensitive, since they can ending up sitting around for a while
  2117. # [20:31] <Ms2ger> You know what would be nice? DXR
  2118. # [20:31] <jwir3> greatwarrior: this bug will likely be exhibited by an image file... like .gif
  2119. # [20:31] <jwir3> (and animated image file)
  2120. # [20:31] <jwir3> s/and/an
  2121. # [20:31] <seif> jdm: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812077
  2122. # [20:31] <seif> i for example like this task
  2123. # [20:32] <greatwarrior> means........the test function wont be in the same cpp file....it will be in some js file...
  2124. # [20:32] <seif> but its 400 hours estimated
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  2126. # [20:32] <seif> is it estimated for some1 with excellent python and xml knowledge or amateru
  2127. # [20:32] <seif> (literally thinking of taking up on this one)
  2128. # [20:32] <greatwarrior> jwir3: animated img will be the o/p. it wont be the code i guess
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  2130. # [20:33] <jwir3> greatwarrior: the code for the test won't be that difficult. I can help you develop the js.
  2131. # [20:33] <jdm> seif: I can tell you that that task is intended for effective python programmers
  2132. # [20:33] <jdm> but that's just because I know everything
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  2134. # [20:33] <seif> jdm: so i take from this you are the yellow pages here :D
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  2137. # [20:33] <jwir3> greatwarrior: The difficulty lies in identifying a .gif or other image that shows the bug that was fixed when this code was originally committed
  2138. # [20:33] <seif> good to know
  2139. # [20:34] <greatwarrior> jwir3: why would that img exist ? it would have been pushed and hence overwriten...
  2140. # [20:34] <jdm> seif: we've discussed the problem of marking difficulty levels for tasks before, and the solution is non-obvious. for things like fairly simple search and replace, we have tags like "good first bug"
  2141. # [20:34] <jdm> seif: unfortunately the concept of "good second bug" is much more murky
  2142. # [20:34] <seif> i can imagine
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  2145. # [20:34] <jwir3> greatwarrior: Well, it might be an image "in the wild" - i.e. somewhere out on the web
  2146. # [20:34] <jdm> and that's without getting into the realm of "is this good for someone who isn't a strong C++ programmer already"
  2147. # [20:35] <greatwarrior> jwir3: ok.
  2148. # [20:35] <jdm> seif: my bugs ahoy! tool is my attempt at dodging that problem by reducing the total choices so that it's easier to just read through ones that sound interesting and find out more
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  2150. # [20:36] <greatwarrior> jwir3: will return to you when my forthcoming exam paper is done (as i had mentioned in the mail)
  2151. # [20:36] <jwir3> greatwarrior: sounds good
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  2154. # [20:36] <greatwarrior> thanks :)
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  2157. # [20:40] <@bsmedberg> gps: none of `./mach help build` nor `./mach build help`
  2158. # [20:40] <@bsmedberg> seem to tell me what the options to mach build are
  2159. # [20:41] <gps> bsmedberg: there are no options :)
  2160. # [20:41] <@bsmedberg> gps: does it prompt me for options?
  2161. # [20:41] <gps> bsmedberg: not yet
  2162. # [20:41] <gps> mach and mozconfigs just work
  2163. # [20:41] <@bsmedberg> oh, I don't use mozconfigs
  2164. # [20:41] <@bsmedberg> blech
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  2166. # [20:43] <Pike> gps: "l10n bustage" is bustage of the l10n-specific builder setup, right? not stuff within the l10n build magic
  2167. # [20:43] <@bsmedberg> gps: so for me, manual configure && pymake should still work?
  2168. # [20:45] <gps> Pike: it would be builder only bustage, yes
  2169. # [20:45] <gps> err builder setup
  2170. # [20:45] <gps> bsmedberg: yes, doing it manually should be possible, but not recommended
  2171. # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> gps: you're going to make me use mozconfigs? I hate!
  2172. # [20:46] <gps> bsmedberg: I'd love to know why that is so I can think about ways to make tree configuration suck less
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  2174. # [20:47] <@bsmedberg> gps: I typically keep 3-4 objdirs per soure tree, and selecting a mozconfig is just pain
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  2176. # [20:47] <@bsmedberg> ../src/configure --enable-debug --disable-optimize autocompletes in bash really well
  2177. # [20:48] <gps> bsmedberg: would something like http://gregoryszorc.com/presentations/2012-11-29-firefox-build-system/#73 be to your liking?
  2178. # [20:48] <sfink> bsmedberg: MOZCONFIG=$(pwd)/.mozconfig make -C ../src -f client.mk?
  2179. # [20:48] <@khuey> omg we're ditching shoeboxed
  2180. # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> sfink: that doesn't look like mach ;-)
  2181. # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> thank god!
  2182. # [20:49] <mccr8> khuey: ITYM "giving shoeboxed the boot"
  2183. # [20:49] <@khuey> ha
  2184. # [20:49] <ddahl> what is most likely the problem if a new native component has an interface registered, but not the class ?
  2185. # [20:49] <edmorley> mccr8++
  2186. # [20:49] <ddahl> khuey: ^^
  2187. # [20:49] <sfink> bsmedberg: yeah, if I knew that setting MOZCONFIG would work for mach, I might give you that command
  2188. # [20:49] <@khuey> ddahl: is the component linked into libxul?
  2189. # [20:49] <gps> mach honors MOZCONFIG
  2190. # [20:49] <sfink> bsmedberg: but I semi-recently made the build system copy your mozconfig into $objdir/.mozconfig for things like this
  2191. # [20:50] <ddahl> khuey: i think so
  2192. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> khuey, will the replacement be worse?
  2193. # [20:50] <@khuey> ddahl: did you add the module registration goop?
  2194. # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff2a302cebda - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 805333 part 1 - AudioChannelService, r=kinetik, a=blocking-basecamp
  2195. # [20:50] <ddahl> khuey: how would I definitively test that?
  2196. # [20:50] <@khuey> Ms2ger: hard to believe that would be possible
  2197. # [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/974411e8e567 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 805333 part 3 - Disable audiochannel for desktop build. r=sicking a=blocking-basecamp
  2198. # [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3769c967ce4b - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 805333 part 2 - MediaElement connected to AudioChannelService, r=kinetik, a=blocking-basecamp
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  2200. # [20:50] <@khuey> ddahl: well if you can't createInstance the thing ...
  2201. # [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/721ba8214185 - Marco Chen - Bug 805333 part 0 - Need a Policy & Mechanism for Audio Competing & Control. r=sicking a=blocking-basecamp
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  2203. # [20:50] * @khuey isn't sure what the "class" not being registered means
  2204. # [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83e55a58ca14 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 817043 - mozaudiochanneltype attribute, r=sicking a=blocking-basecamp
  2205. # [20:51] <@ted> shoeboxed is actually worse than its predecessor
  2206. # [20:51] <ddahl> khuey: it seems so, the Ci.NEWMODULE exists
  2207. # [20:51] <@ted> which was "fill out an excel spreadsheet and email it"
  2208. # [20:51] <gps> who was it that has the list of distro contacts?
  2209. # [20:51] <@khuey> ok, let's back up
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  2211. # [20:51] <@khuey> did you create a new module or a new component?
  2212. # [20:51] <mccr8> gps: Kev Needham
  2213. # [20:51] <mccr8> IIRC
  2214. # [20:52] <@khuey> ddahl: ^
  2215. # [20:52] <gps> mccr8: thanks
  2216. # [20:52] <ddahl> khuey: component
  2217. # [20:52] <ddahl> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1976714
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  2222. # [20:53] <@khuey> ddahl: ok, you need to add goop to toolkit/components/build/nsToolkitCompsModule.cpp
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  2228. # [20:54] <ddahl> khuey: AH!
  2229. # [20:54] <ddahl> khuey: why would nsAutoCompleteController not add the goop to that file as well?
  2230. # [20:55] <@khuey> ddahl: because it's insane and defines its own module http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/autocomplete/nsAutoCompleteController.cpp#1715
  2231. # [20:55] <ddahl> khuey: we do that part of thr goop in the nsHello.cpp
  2232. # [20:56] <@khuey> then your problem is that you aren't listed in toolkit/library/nsStaticXULComponents.cpp
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  2235. # [20:56] <@khuey> e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/library/nsStaticXULComponents.cpp#109
  2236. # [20:56] <@khuey> but please just reuse the existing toolkit module
  2237. # [20:56] <@khuey> don't create your own
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  2240. # [20:57] <ddahl> khuey: thanks. i think you told me this a long time ago. I am dumb
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  2242. # [20:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3c9228f1c893 - Malini Das - Bug 815757 - refactor script timeouts and rename variables, r=jgriffin, a=NPOTB
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  2244. # [20:58] <@ehsan> jdm: do you expect to finish 769285 by the end of this week?
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  2247. # [20:58] <jdm> ehsan: yes
  2248. # [20:59] <@ted> espindola: sorry it took me forever, but i finally responded on bug 803184
  2249. # [20:59] <@ted> if the answer to that question is yes, then that patch is fine
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  2266. # [21:05] <@ehsan> jdm: cool! fwiw I'm planning to turn on pbngen next week
  2267. # [21:05] <@ehsan> (on central, that is)
  2268. # [21:05] <jdm> ehsan: we still don't have the NSS stuff
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  2270. # [21:05] <jdm> I don't think we should do it before that
  2271. # [21:05] <@ehsan> yes, I'll ping people
  2272. # [21:05] <@ehsan> jdm: are you mostly just blocked on reviews there?
  2273. # [21:05] <jdm> yes
  2274. # [21:06] <@ehsan> ok
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  2276. # [21:06] <@ehsan> jdm: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812598 is not a blocker... do you concur?
  2277. # [21:06] <jdm> yes
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  2281. # [21:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bb787b0d740 - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 741526 - Mozilla central mozapps implementation ignores Content-Type. r=fabrice
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  2288. # [21:09] <mkaply> ttaubert: PageThumbsCache was left in PageThumbs.jsm for FF17, but it doesn't work, right? FF17 uses PageThumbsStorage? Why was it left?
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  2290. # [21:10] <@gavin> mkaply: bug 762094
  2291. # [21:10] <espindola> ted, I think I answered, please double check.
  2292. # [21:11] <@gavin> mkaply: we wanted to keep the option of disabling the new storage system until it was proven and some bugs were fixed
  2293. # [21:11] <mkaply> gavin: Makes sense. I'm just having trouble detecting in my add-on which one to use :). I can't rely on the exports from PageThumbs.jsm (which I did before).
  2294. # [21:11] <mkaply> Didn't want to resort to FF version checking.
  2295. # [21:11] <@gavin> why are you interacting with the storage directly?
  2296. # [21:12] <mkaply> gavin: I'm displaying favicons for missing thumbnails.
  2297. # [21:12] <@ted> espindola: okay, sounds good
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  2300. # [21:13] <mkaply> gavin: I found no other way to check to see if there was a thumbnail except checking for the cache entry (pre FF17) and calling getFileForURL (FF17 and newer)
  2301. # [21:13] <@gavin> mkaply: sounds like you shoudl file a bug to add that to the pagethumbs API?
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  2303. # [21:14] <@gavin> bet that'd be an easy patch
  2304. # [21:14] <mkaply> gavin: I shall.
  2305. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9059c03efa7b - Benoit Girard - Bug 818213 - Define SAMPLER_SHUTDOWN for builds without the profiler turned on; r=ehsan
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  2307. # [21:15] <mkaply> gavin: There's also this - bug 783339
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  2309. # [21:16] <@gavin> mkaply: thanks - I've been looking into some related bugs lately
  2310. # [21:16] <mkaply> Combined with the new favicon color stuff, it would much nicer new tab. I'm amazed at how many sites have no-cache set.
  2311. # [21:17] <mkaply> (so no new tab images)
  2312. # [21:17] <mkaply> not just no-cache. There's some other thing we honor too.
  2313. # [21:17] <mkaply> cache-control: no-store
  2314. # [21:17] <@gavin> yes, that bug
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  2317. # [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7de261e17390 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 803184 - Remove .cfi_sections .debug_frame. r=ted.
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  2319. # [21:20] <mkaply> gavin: I wonder if the capture code could be modified to blur text? That would solve the https capture problem.
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  2322. # [21:22] <@gavin> not really, making sure you blur the right thing is kind of a hard problem
  2323. # [21:22] <@gavin> not just text that's a concern
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  2327. # [21:28] <@smaug> when will the esr17 be released?
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  2330. # [21:28] <@smaug> Jan 2013?
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  2334. # [21:30] <bent> ted, have we done anything recently that would break source server support on windows?
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  2341. # [21:33] <@ted> bent: not that i'm aware of
  2342. # [21:33] <@ted> i can't recall the last time i used it, but i don't think it was that long ago
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  2346. # [21:33] <bent> ted, ok... you don't happen to know how you would go about debugging that do you?
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  2349. # [21:33] <bent> it's annoying to not have it
  2350. # [21:34] <@ted> bent: two quick things you can try: 1) if you have the PDB files you can use the pdbstr thing to check that we have the right source stream in there (i'd have to consult symbolstore.py to find what it uses)
  2351. # [21:34] <@ted> 2) try windbg, it has a !src noisy or something like that
  2352. # [21:34] <@ted> where it will print verbose info
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  2354. # [21:34] <bent> ok cool
  2355. # [21:34] <bent> thatnks
  2356. # [21:35] <glandium> jlebar|mac: you're mean, citing my blog post in 347592
  2357. # [21:35] <jlebar|mac> glandium: sorry, didn't mean to drag you into that.
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  2359. # [21:35] <jlebar|mac> glandium: I did think it was good evidence of my point, though. :)
  2360. # [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b188dc425725 - Jim Blandy - (no bug): Fix js/src/gdb/README. DONTBUILD
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  2362. # [21:37] <@ted> bent: pdbstr.exe ships with windbg, if you have that installed
  2363. # [21:38] <@ted> something like pdbstr -r -p:c:/path/to/xul.pdb -s:srcsrv
  2364. # [21:38] <@ted> should print out the contents
  2365. # [21:38] <glandium> jlebar|mac: fair enough
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  2368. # [21:39] <glandium> jlebar|mac: fast clobber builds is important to me when i do builds on platforms i don't usually build, obviously
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  2380. # [21:49] <jlebar|mac> Word to the wise: If you do subprocess.Popen(…, stdout=GzipFile(…)), stdout will be written in plain text.
  2381. # [21:49] <jlebar|mac> :(
  2382. # [21:49] <jcranmer|away> jlebar|mac: subprocess.Popen doesn't actually do file-like objects
  2383. # [21:50] <jcranmer|away> you need real OS pipes
  2384. # [21:50] <jlebar|mac> jcranmer|away: It doesn't have a problem with files, though.
  2385. # [21:50] <jcranmer|away> because files have a real fd attached to them
  2386. # [21:50] <jlebar|mac> Which is frustrating, because Python is all about duck typing.
  2387. # [21:50] <jcranmer|away> file-like objects don't
  2388. # [21:50] <jlebar|mac> And so it pulls the fd off the GzipWriter; I see. That makes perfect sense.
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  2390. # [21:51] <jcranmer|away> what you really need to do is to use stdout=subprocess.PIPE
  2391. # [21:51] <jcranmer|away> and then take the pipe object and hook it up properly
  2392. # [21:51] <jlebar|mac> jcranmer|away: using either select or a separate thread.
  2393. # [21:52] <jlebar|mac> I guess using a thread wouldn't be so bad.
  2394. # [21:52] <jcranmer|away> I have code somewhere that churns off multiple subprocesses and tracks the output from all of them and makes sure we don't get flushing problems
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  2408. # [21:59] <jlebar|mac> jcranmer|away: pumping on a separate thread works and isn't too hard. Thanks for the tip.
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  2416. # [22:02] <@ehsan> jdm: sorry I turned off my machine, didn't see what you said
  2417. # [22:02] <jdm> ehsan: I thought I found the problem, but I'm no longer certain at all
  2418. # [22:02] <jdm> and my tests do not bear out my premise
  2419. # [22:02] <mrbkap> NeilAway: I think we cancel timeouts and stuff like that when the window is closed.
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  2423. # [22:03] <mrbkap> NeilAway: in general, for a function, you can't assume that the window is still open when you're called.
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  2427. # [22:03] <mrbkap> NeilAway: iirc Hixie tried to spec otherwise but there was too much pushback.
  2428. # [22:04] <jlebar|mac> (Filed under "things which are easy in bash and hard in Python.")
  2429. # [22:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5941ffc63b8c - Gregor Wagner - Bug 817989 - [CONTACTS] Update testcase. r=gal
  2430. # [22:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21689a2577de - Gregor Wagner - Bug 817989 - [CONTACTS] Is not possible to save a contact with a very long phone number. r=gal
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  2459. # [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0ae1934a4a0 - Chris Peterson - Bug 796948 - Part 4: Remove unused USE_CPP_WCHAR_FUNCS and literal_string code. r=ehsan
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  2465. # [22:27] <edmorley> anyone else have trouble loading https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.planning/iZOrriRMYIg ?
  2466. # [22:28] <mjrosenb> edmorley: it loaded for me
  2467. # [22:28] <mjrosenb> edmorley: but google does metric tons of A/B testing
  2468. # [22:28] <mjrosenb> so ymmv
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  2470. # [22:28] <edmorley> I get one message of the thread loaded and the others stuck on "loading..."
  2471. # [22:28] <edmorley> and yeah true
  2472. # [22:28] <edmorley> thank you for looking :-)
  2473. # [22:29] <mjrosenb> edmorley: I can pastebin the conversation if you want :-p
  2474. # [22:30] <edmorley> web 2.0 ftw
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  2488. # [22:37] <Optimizer> any idea on how to close an app on B2G ?
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  2490. # [22:38] <hub> Optimizer: long press on home
  2491. # [22:38] <Optimizer> then ?
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  2493. # [22:38] <hub> Optimizer: select which one you want then slide it up
  2494. # [22:38] <Optimizer> oh
  2495. # [22:38] <Optimizer> slide up
  2496. # [22:38] <Optimizer> thanks hub :)
  2497. # [22:39] <Optimizer> Ah, we are using nokia maps by default :)
  2498. # [22:39] <jesup|laptop> dao: poing
  2499. # [22:39] <jesup|laptop> ping even
  2500. # [22:40] <dao> jesup|laptop: pong
  2501. # [22:40] <jesup|laptop> vidyo?
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  2508. # [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96343524e1fe - Ed Morley - Bug 813242 - Disable browser_bug343515.js on Windows for too many intermittent failures
  2509. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/120aae0f3f6a - Ed Morley - Bug 684176 - Disable test_bug454235.xul on Linux for too many intermittent failures
  2510. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/082810a8a1b5 - Ed Morley - Backout 5971115a94d2 (bug 811445's test) for causing bug 817336
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  2525. # [22:53] <@bsmedberg> Asa: can you answer the other email question about metro win64?
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  2555. # [23:12] <arnsa> Hello. How much experience do I need to have to contribute to Firefox development?
  2556. # [23:13] <@smaug> arnsa: I'd recommend different channel. #introduction
  2557. # [23:14] <arnsa> smaug, okey, ty.
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  2560. # [23:16] <ahal> arnsa: not much, if you have the patience to learn. Take a look at http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/
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  2565. # [23:18] <njn> man, the first libxul.so link of the day takes so long...
  2566. # [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faf52cdfbbb3 - Trevor Saunders - bug 817772 - remove MAI logging r=surkov
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  2568. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4553da6ca2e2 - Trevor Saunders - bug 817766 - remove an unused member from MaiUtil remove some unused macros and make MaiUtil and MaiUtilClass typedefs r=surkov
  2569. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a76ec70d30a7 - Trevor Saunders - bug 817766 - move atk util code out of ApplicationAccessibleWrap.cpp rs=surkov
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  2574. # [23:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/985265a08b5b - Ed Morley - Backout b4df4a2aee3e (bug 811669) for xpcshell failures; a=backout
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  2578. # [23:22] <njn> the first libxul.so link took 3m45s, the second one took 16s
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  2581. # [23:23] <NeilAway> bsmedberg-away: I actually had a ~/.mozconfig which sourced the .mozconfig from the objdir, rather than the srcdir (you can't set mk options that way obviously, but that's not usually a problem), sadly sid0 broke that :s
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  2588. # [23:27] <NeilAway> mrbkap: well this is chrome anyway but it was passing a callback which could occasionally happen after the window closed
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  2590. # [23:28] <edmorley> njn: I forget how it goes... a link a day keeps the ssd in pay?
  2591. # [23:28] <gw280> anyone seen this:
  2592. # [23:28] <gw280> /home/george/dev/mozilla-central-2/tools/profiler/JSCustomObjectBuilder.cpp:193:10: error: expected a
  2593. # [23:28] <gw280> class or namespace
  2594. # [23:28] <glandium> njn: was that on an incremental build?
  2595. # [23:28] <gw280> return PLDHashOperator::PL_DHASH_NEXT;
  2596. # [23:28] <glandium> njn: with few changes?
  2597. # [23:28] <mrbkap> NeilAway: which callback?
  2598. # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b2656c880e8 - Chris Peterson - Bug 818245 - Part 2: Mark some functions as static and capitalize their names in Assembler-arm.cpp. r=dvander
  2599. # [23:29] <njn> glandium: incremental build both times
  2600. # [23:29] <glandium> gw280: clang on linux? gcc 4.4?
  2601. # [23:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9534e375800e - Chris Peterson - Bug 818245 - Part 1: Fix "NULL used in arithmetic" warnings in Assembler-arm.cpp. r=dvander
  2602. # [23:29] <njn> edmorley: I don't have an SSD
  2603. # [23:29] <gw280> glandium: clang on linux
  2604. # [23:29] <gw280> clang version 3.1 (tags/RELEASE_31/final)
  2605. # [23:29] <glandium> njn: the first of the day will have had to read all the object files, spread accross the file system
  2606. # [23:29] <dholbert> gw280, looks like it shouldn't be prefixed like that
  2607. # [23:29] <njn> glandium: yeah, I figured it was something like that
  2608. # [23:29] <edmorley> njn: you should file a request to get one and reference gps' builds system presentation :-)
  2609. # [23:29] <dholbert> gw280, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=PL_DHASH_NEXT says we never prefix it elsewhere
  2610. # [23:30] <glandium> gw280: you're good to file a bug ; the patch is straightforward: remove PLDHashOperator::
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  2612. # [23:30] <gw280> glandium: will do
  2613. # [23:30] <njn> edmorley: watching that presentation is on my todo list
  2614. # [23:30] <NeilAway> mrbkap: content pref service
  2615. # [23:30] <njn> edmorley: when I bought this machine, someone told me that an SSD didn't make much difference for moz builds, so I didn't get one
  2616. # [23:31] <glandium> njn: it doesn't make a difference.... except with cold cache
  2617. # [23:31] <jhammel> itym cold cash ;)
  2618. # [23:31] <njn> glandium: ok. I can live with the first run being slow. But the next machine I get will definitely have an SSD
  2619. # [23:31] <edmorley> njn: I found it highly interesting :-) the slide to reference for your service-now SSD request is http://people.mozilla.org/~gszorc/build-system-brownbag/#32 ;-)
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  2621. # [23:32] <gps> IT will auto-expense SSDs costing less than $200. 256GB SSDs are below the threshold :)
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  2624. # [23:33] <gps> if you have enough memory, the benefit of an SSD won't be significant. but for initial source tree reading and for any page cache eviction, you want to marginalize the effect of I/O wait by having an SSD
  2625. # [23:33] <gps> and SSDs just generally kick ass
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  2627. # [23:33] <njn> gps: I have 16 GB of RAM... I got that decision right :)
  2628. # [23:33] <jesup> gps: oh yeah!
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  2630. # [23:33] <geekboy> SSDs are worth it
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  2632. # [23:34] <jesup> I love 16GB of ram, SSD, and a crafted combo of 'find .... | xargs grep ' to search the entire tree in seconds
  2633. # [23:34] <gw280> everyone should jsut get an SSD
  2634. # [23:34] <gps> mconnor: ^
  2635. # [23:34] <gcp> jesup: yeah, kinda makes mxr redundant :P
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  2639. # [23:36] <geekboy> SSDs make everything better: your eyes get stronger, your car gets faster (and more fuel efficient), your computer can predict the future.
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  2641. # [23:36] <glandium> git grep ftw
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  2643. # [23:36] <jesup> I have a series of aliases for hfind, cfind, chfind, jsfind, ifind (idl), etc. tcsh, but abr did a bash version of them. After the first run, it sticks in ram well, and grep time for cfind foo is like a second or two
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  2645. # [23:37] <glandium> man, i hate that firefox freezes whenever it's loading a tinderbox log
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  2648. # [23:38] <mjrosenb> glandium: catch it with the profiler!
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  2652. # [23:38] <glandium> mjrosenb: it's a problem known since the dawn of times
  2653. # [23:39] <mjrosenb> yeah.
  2654. # [23:39] <mjrosenb> at least the tbpl logs aren't that large.
  2655. # [23:40] <glandium> mjrosenb: depends which ones. i'm looking at one for a build that stopped because the log was too big
  2656. # [23:40] <glandium> (52M)
  2657. # [23:40] <mjrosenb> glandium: nbp generated some log files that were 500mb at one point or other
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  2660. # [23:41] <mjrosenb> it was super un-fun
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  2662. # [23:41] <jesup> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1976958 (tcsh) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1976959 (bash from Adam Roach)
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  2664. # [23:41] <mjrosenb> iirc, it was faster to print it to a pdf, then use pdf.js to scan through it than it was to just look at that logfile
  2665. # [23:41] <abr> Actually, I turnedup a subtle bug in those. Hold on a sec...
  2666. # [23:43] <abr> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1976960
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  2669. # [23:44] <abr> Ooh, I didn't notice that I cen edit yours. Fixed it in there.
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  2674. # [23:46] <edmorley> glandium, mjrosenb: bug 762710; I haven't profiled it for a while admitedly
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  2676. # [23:47] <edmorley> (used to drive me crazy before I got the new laptop; given how many logs I open per day)
  2677. # [23:47] <edmorley> iirc philor resorts to using chorme for that reason
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  2680. # [23:48] <edmorley> philor|away: btw hope you're ok / your eye is getting better :-)
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  2687. # [23:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ccfe74078eb9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 796847 - Make AdjustInvalidAreaForSVGEffects correctly adjust for the coordinate space of the input rect. r=dholbert a=akeybl
  2688. # [23:51] <glandium> edmorley: it's not so much a problem of it taking time, it's a problem of it not spinning the event loop
  2689. # [23:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7d4da1832dcc - Matt Woodrow - Bug 810592 - Make nsSubDocumentFrames that are actively scrolling build their own layer. r=roc a=akeybl
  2690. # [23:52] <edmorley> glandium: yeah agreed
  2691. # [23:52] <glandium> it's perfectly fine for something huge to take time to layout
  2692. # [23:52] <glandium> it's not fine that it hangs the ui
  2693. # [23:53] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: that link seems to point me at some makefile changes, but the file name in the link is a cpp file, so Im not sure what your pointing me at :/
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  2699. # [23:59] <mjrosenb> glandium: long live electrolysis!
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