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1. # Session Start: Tue Dec 11 00:00:00 2012
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:01] <jhford> ehsan: i'll file a bug, looks like the script is expecting something different than what it's getting
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5. # [00:03] <@ehsan> jhford: ok, thanks
6. # [00:03] <jdm> abr: I've seen that, but I don't recall how I avoided/fixed it unfortunately
7. # [00:03] <jdm> it may just be problems with the bzapi itself
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9. # [00:04] <abr> jdm: interesting. If that's the case, everyone would be having difficulty with it right now, correct?
10. # [00:04] <jdm> abr: conceivably, yes
11. # [00:04] <jdm> I'll try
12. # [00:04] <abr> Thanks!
13. # [00:05] <jdm> oh wait, I forgot that bz: ones are busted for me on os x for some reason
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15. # [00:05] <abr> Strange. They were working for me just last week, AFAIR.
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19. # [00:06] <jdm> abr: I get the same error (once I updated my qimportbz
20. # [00:06] <abr> Okay, so it's not just my config. I'll give it a few days, hg pull a new copy of qimportbz, and see whether it clears up.
21. # [00:06] <abr> Thanks for checking!
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26. # [00:09] <devd> this is sad though.. this means we never really can switch to arequestprincipal
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35. # [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d715f6e2996e - Mark Hammond - Bug 807997 - allow chat windows to be opened in pages where the toolbar is hidden. r=gavin, a=lsblakk
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37. # [00:15] <benjamin> why does mochitest-1 not run on osx 10.8 dbg?
38. # [00:17] <johns> roc: For bug 785348, did you still want me to investigate a delayed-stop-on-plugin-destruction patch for java?
39. # [00:17] <dhylands> Si Updated my b2g build, and when it tries to build gecko, python is complaining that no bz2 module exists. Does anybody know what I need to install to get bz2? I already have libbz2-dev installed
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41. # [00:19] <dhylands> I've tried using python 2.6.5 and 2.7.3 and I get the same error with both
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43. # [00:19] <benjamin> did you recompile python?
44. # [00:19] <dhylands> No
45. # [00:20] <benjamin> (after installing bz2?)
46. # [00:20] <dhylands> I never compiled python in the first place
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48. # [00:20] <dhylands> Oh -maybe I did - I'm using pythinbrew and I think it compiles python
49. # [00:21] <dhylands> benjamin: Thanks for the nudge in the right direction
50. # [00:21] <benjamin> python should try to build the python if it detects bz2 headers
51. # [00:21] <benjamin> could be be some include config mess
52. # [00:21] <seif> jdm back
53. # [00:21] <seif> fixing the script
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55. # [00:23] <@roc> johns: I hope that won't be needed.
56. # [00:23] <@roc> johns: focus on getting to delayed-stop for all plugins :-)
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58. # [00:24] <johns> roc: Unfortunately they will find 99 other ways to re-enter, but it's on the list :-P
59. # [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/862fe97bd3a4 - Sean Stangl - Bug 807464 - Increase Ion script size limit to 2000. r=dvander
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61. # [00:25] <@ehsan> bsmith: ping
62. # [00:25] <bsmith> ehsan: pong
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65. # [00:26] <@ehsan> bsmith: sorry for the continuous pinging, but I was wondering if you think you can review the psm patch jdm wrote tonight?
66. # [00:26] <@ehsan> bsmith: (I need to let PR know whether this will land today... :/ )
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69. # [00:27] <bsmith> I will try to do so. I've been doing reviews while I wait for my B2G builds to finish. But, my B2G stuff has a deadline of today.
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71. # [00:28] <bsmith> IMO, it is not great for PR to whip up a frenzy about per-window private browsing based on whether it lands today because it seems likely to get backed out or disabled, based on our experience so far.
72. # [00:28] <bsmith> Since we're finding surprises as we go.
73. # [00:28] <@ehsan> bsmith: ok, I understand
74. # [00:28] <@roc> johns: yeah, but for some reason stopping is more painful than anything else
75. # [00:28] <@ehsan> bsmith: yeah well they
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77. # [00:29] <@ehsan> 're planning to publish a blog post
78. # [00:29] <bsmith> But, that's just MHO. I will still prioritize the review highly
79. # [00:29] <@ehsan> and they want me to tell them when this will be in Nightly... :/
80. # [00:29] <dhylands> benjamin: Yep - pythonbrew uninstall 2.73; pythonbrew install 2.7.3 rebuilt with bz2 support
81. # [00:29] <bsmith> Sometimes the discussion of if a review is going to be done takes longer than the actual review.
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84. # [00:30] <@ehsan> heh, true :)
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88. # [00:33] <jwir3> is there documentation in a single place that might list all of our coordinate systems?
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92. # [00:35] <jwir3> specifically I'm looking for coordinate systems in frames. like, when do i know whether coordinates should be frame relative
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110. # [00:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/988ef008a1d7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 819202 - Part 1: Implement the "non-private" window.open feature; r=bzbarsky
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113. # [00:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0eab0765e25 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 817684 - Translate Android hover enter/exit to mouseenter/mouseleave. r=wesj
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116. # [00:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a2d8c34d905 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 796198 - Use the right cookie jar when downloading package and minimanifest for packaged apps - Part 1: move the xhr to Webapps.jsm [r=sicking]
117. # [00:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f29dda59ef7 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 796198 - Use the right cookie jar when downloading package and minimanifest for packaged apps - Part 2 : use cookie jars [r=sicking]
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119. # [00:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ef33b42d4b83 - John Schoenick - Bug 810082 - Part 0.5 - Add script access event for CTP'd plugins r=joshmoz a=lsblakk
120. # [00:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a51806efed9a - John Schoenick - Bug 810082 - Part 0.5b - Avoid changing nsIObjectLoadingContent interface on branches (beta) r=joshmoz a=lsblakk
121. # [00:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7a5a4297cb48 - David Keeler - bug 810082 - open popup when invisible click-to-play plugin is scripted (beta) r=jaws a=lsblakk
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123. # [00:51] <seif> ehsan, around?
124. # [00:51] <@ehsan> yeah
125. # [00:52] <Pike> ehsan: your comment was the only one I saw so far on the update to persian. for an update that large, I guess I'd rather not take that after b4, with is go-to-build tomorrow. so I'm wondering, what'd be your take? ship that update for 18 or do we need fixes and do that on 19?
126. # [00:53] <@ehsan> Pike: honestly I'd take it, since that is much better than the status quo
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130. # [00:53] <seif> ehsan, so i am fighting with git here to get the stats properly
131. # [00:53] <@ehsan> which is a pretty much broken build :/
132. # [00:53] <seif> what command would give me all commits between 2 releases?
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134. # [00:54] <@ehsan> hmm
135. # [00:54] <seif> right now i am going with git log tag1..tag2
136. # [00:54] <bsmith> ehsan jdm: Sorry, I don't think this is going to land today. I updated the review. And, I think we need to be a little more careful with the development of this patch, based on our previous experience with overlooking several things wrong with it.
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138. # [00:55] <cabanier> can someone commit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=809927
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143. # [00:57] <@ehsan> bsmith: np, thanks for letting me know
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147. # [00:58] <seif> ehsan, what do you think? git log tag1..tag2
148. # [00:58] <Pike> ehsan: ok, thanks. took the sign-off
149. # [00:58] <dmose> i have a change set ready to push (already committed) that's currently listed as committed by me
150. # [00:58] <@ehsan> Pike: thanks
151. # [00:58] <dmose> how do i change it to be committed by the patch author?
152. # [00:58] <@ehsan> seif: that would work, if you have the right tags
153. # [00:59] <@ehsan> dmose: hg qim -r tip && hg qref -u 'new author <email>' && hg qfi . && hg push
154. # [00:59] <dmose> ehsan: thanks!
155. # [00:59] <@ehsan> seif: I don't think that we have a good tag to denote the beginning of the development of a release though :/
156. # [00:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/668141ff2577 - Trevor Saunders - bug 819927 - Base64{Encode,Decode}() should properly handle empty strings r=ehsan
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158. # [00:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d00a8bf1508 - Trevor Saunders - bug 819940 - remove nsISupportsArray::EnumerateBackwards() r=ehsan
159. # [01:00] <seif> ehsan, seems like stuff is in the commits
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161. # [01:00] <seif> ehsan, so if some1 can give me a commit to reference too i think it would work
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163. # [01:00] <@ehsan> seif: actually, we do
164. # [01:01] <seif> yeah something goes missing then
165. # [01:01] <@ehsan> according to http://mozilla.github.com/process-releases/draft/development_specifics/#branching, you should look for an AURORA_BASE_xxx tag
166. # [01:01] <@ehsan> but you have to dig up the date corresponding to the beginning of the development of a release
167. # [01:01] <@ehsan> which you can get from https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
168. # [01:01] <seif> not FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE and FIREFOX_16_0_RELEASE
169. # [01:02] <@ehsan> no, they share a common ancestor
170. # [01:02] <sheppy> That's pretty rough when doing docs, how hard it is to look up a specific release's code on MXR.
171. # [01:02] <nigelbot> 58
172. # [01:02] <nigelbot> grrrr
173. # [01:02] <sheppy> I've had to start keeping each release's code on my computer as we ship it.
174. # [01:03] <@ehsan> we should really start tagging stuff better :/
175. # [01:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/226ffef01c84 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 812700 - Fix SCTP code to build on Android, r=dmose,ted
176. # [01:03] <seif> ehsan, what is FIREFOX_AURORA_17_END
177. # [01:03] <seif> what does aurora mean
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179. # [01:04] <cpeterson> cjones, ping?
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183. # [01:04] <@ehsan> seif: I'm not really sure... :/
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185. # [01:05] <@ehsan> seif: ask akeybl
186. # [01:05] <seif> akeybl, if i want to get all commits between two releases, what tags should i look at?
187. # [01:06] <@gavin> seif: use FIREFOX_N_RELEASE tags on mozilla-release
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189. # [01:07] <seif> what is mozilla-release
190. # [01:07] <seif> not mozilla-central?
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192. # [01:07] <seif> gavin ^
193. # [01:08] <cjones> cpeterson, pong
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195. # [01:08] <seif> gavin, i am using "FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE"
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197. # [01:08] <cpeterson> cjones, hi, I have some questions about focus, ipc, and IME on B2G.
198. # [01:08] <seif> but i am not getting the proper amount of commits
199. # [01:09] <cjones> cpeterson, ruh roh :). i'm trying to finish something time-sensitive, can we reconvene in an hour or so?
200. # [01:09] <cjones> feel free to comment what you were going to ask me in bz or email
201. # [01:10] <cpeterson> cjones, sure, no problem.
202. # [01:10] <@gavin> seif: the release tags only exist in the mozilla-release repository
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204. # [01:10] <@gavin> seif: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/
205. # [01:10] <cpeterson> thanks
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208. # [01:11] <seif> hmmmmmmmmmm so i need to parse the hg output then
209. # [01:12] <@gavin> seif: you can clone the repo locally, if that's what you mean?
210. # [01:12] <seif> yeah, but i am not familiar with hg
211. # [01:12] <seif> but i cloned it
212. # [01:12] <seif> will look into how to get all commits between two tags
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218. # [01:15] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: did you forget the "Enumerator" from your checkin comment?
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223. # [01:17] <njn> roc: what would be the right bugzilla component for a bug about submenu drawing delay?
224. # [01:17] <njn> *bookmark submenu
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226. # [01:18] * njn guesses "Firefox :: Bookmarks & toolbars"
227. # [01:18] <njn> er, "Bookmarks & history"
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230. # [01:20] <@dolske> njn: or Toolkit :: Xul Widgets
231. # [01:20] <@gavin> if it's specific to bookmarks, probably places to start?
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233. # [01:20] <njn> dolske: I *just* sent the email... do you think it matters much?
234. # [01:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4528be937f5c - Robert Strong - Bug 817723 - Only build the stub installer when building x86 and the update channel equals nightly, aurora, beta, and release. r=khuey
235. # [01:20] <njn> ugh
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237. # [01:20] <@gavin> IIRC that's a custom menu binding thing
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239. # [01:20] <njn> dolske, gavin: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2624435 is the issue
240. # [01:21] <njn> the author asked me for help via email
241. # [01:21] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: if you mean the one that claimed to remove NS_NewISupportsArray() yes :(
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245. # [01:23] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: btw you might want to make sure c-c isn't using the stuff I'm removing, I'm not really sure how much it uses nsISupportsArray
246. # [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34f464e9a22c - Blake Kaplan - Bug 820185 - Fix the copy constructor to not use uninitialized members. r=bent
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249. # [01:24] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: well, I don't think it uses the enumerator, so you're safe so far
250. # [01:24] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I hope it doesn't use any of the notxpcom stuff too, a lot of that is unused in m-c
251. # [01:25] <@dolske> njn: sounds more like a Places performance problem than anything to do with that pref. especially since he says it gets worse the longer the browser runs.
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253. # [01:25] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: can I interest you in this thing called MXR: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/ident
254. # [01:26] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I know of it I just dislike using it
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256. # [01:26] <@dolske> njn: "FF :: BM & Hist" or "Toolkit :: Places" would probably both work equally.
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258. # [01:28] <njn> dolske: k, thx
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260. # [01:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/73e86fb35a78 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 800138 - Open a dummy socket before Marionette starts listening, r=past, a=test-only
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264. # [01:30] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: well, you could just build c-c :-P
265. # [01:31] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: its true, and I might, or I can I can just prey for you poor people :P
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267. # [01:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51b160a3672e - Mark Hammond - Bug 788368 - Port messages will no longer be dropped if port is closed before other side connects. r=felipe
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270. # [01:33] <@roc> njn: I'd probably go for Widget : Windows
271. # [01:33] <@roc> or layout
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322. # [02:06] <seif> gavin, so doing it with hg and i get the same odd results
323. # [02:06] <seif> how come "josh matthews has only 2 commits to the firefox 16 release and 1 to the 17 release"
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327. # [02:09] <@roc> is RyanVM or someone else systematically uplifiting blocking-basecamp+ patches to aurora/beta?
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329. # [02:09] <fabrice> roc: yes
330. # [02:09] <@roc> who is it? Ryan?
331. # [02:09] <fabrice> yep, RyanVM
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338. # [02:14] <@bz> How can I keep MXR for auto-doing a regexp search when I search for ".@" ?
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340. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99fed1469403 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 819218 - Permissions Installer - Fix desktop-notification permission. r=sicking
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342. # [02:16] <tanvi> does anyone know an example website that requests geolocation?
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345. # [02:16] <@dolske> tanvi: google maps? :)
346. # [02:16] <tanvi> tried that, don't get the drop down
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349. # [02:16] <@dolske> click the little dot above the street view guy.
350. # [02:16] <seth> target's "Find in a store" does it too
351. # [02:16] <Callek> tanvi: http://merged.ca/iphone/html5-geolocation
352. # [02:17] <fabrice> tanvi: http://html5demos.com/geo
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356. # [02:17] <tanvi> ah okay. thank you!
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415. # [02:44] <njn> dbaron: what are the existing uses of fix-linux-stack.pl and fix_macosx_stack.py?
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432. # [02:54] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/happy-bmo-push-day-22/
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434. # [02:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b901ea202aeb - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 9f29dda59ef7 (bug 796198)
435. # [02:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eedefdd3375d - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 8a2d8c34d905 (bug 796198) because of mochitest-chrome failures
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437. # [02:55] <heycam> glob, just got a bugmail with this in it: "Product | Component: Core | Widget: Cocoa"
438. # [02:56] <heycam> glob, it's a bit confusing to read :)
439. # [02:56] <glob> heycam, file a bug
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441. # [02:56] <heycam> glob, ok
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445. # [03:02] <glob> heycam, caused by bug 417756 btw
446. # [03:03] <heycam> thanks
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448. # [03:03] <heycam> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820226
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451. # [03:09] <@ehsan> hmm
452. # [03:09] <@ehsan> this makes me sad: http://www.graememcc.co.uk/myfavouritecomponent/?bugmail=ehsan%40mozilla.com
453. # [03:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/03e46d0d171f - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 785348. Part 1: Track when we've called into plugin code. While we're in plugin code, never run the refresh driver. r=mats,a=lsblakk
454. # [03:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/58ed9187f536 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 818276. Update margins and scrollbar settings for a child document whenever the corresponding IFRAME state changes, even if we do not recreate the presentation.
455. # [03:10] <firebot> r=matspal,a=lsblakk
456. # [03:10] <glob> ehsan, lol :)
457. # [03:10] <@ehsan> glob: I mean seriously, whose favorite component is Editor?!
458. # [03:10] * hwine|mtg is now known as hwine
459. # [03:10] <Callek> ehsan: wooooo you're even in SeaMonkey::* :-)
460. # [03:10] <glob> ehsan, sounds better than "bugzilla.mozilla.org:Administration"
461. # [03:10] <@ehsan> and why do I have bugs fixed in Releng?!
462. # [03:10] <@ehsan> SeaMonkey!
463. # [03:11] <@ehsan> glob: lol, but that's a pretty low bar :P
464. # [03:11] * valueof is now known as anton
465. # [03:11] <@ehsan> wtf?! NSS?!
466. # [03:11] <@ehsan> XForms?
467. # [03:11] <@ehsan> what is wrong with me?
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469. # [03:12] <Callek> also good or bad sign that my paid-work bugmail hasn't overshot my non-paid-bugmail yet? http://www.graememcc.co.uk/myfavouritecomponent/?bugmail=bugspam.Callek%40gmail.com (after 3/4 of a year employed) :)
470. # [03:12] <@ehsan> Callek: it's not bad, unless I send an email to your manager...
471. # [03:13] <@ehsan> hrm, what would ehsan do with that kind of power...
472. # [03:13] <@ehsan> </grin>
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474. # [03:13] <Callek> ehsan: wait -- I'm supposed to have a manager?!?!?
475. # [03:13] <Callek> is that the guy I meet with ever week in a 1x1?
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477. # [03:13] <@ehsan> Callek: ok, that's it! email sent! :P
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484. # [03:15] <@ehsan> on a related note, https://github.com/graememcc/myfavouritecomponent/pull/1
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487. # [03:16] <glob> ehsan, wontfix!
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489. # [03:16] <@ehsan> grrr
490. # [03:16] <@ehsan> glob: Editor junkies tend to bite on occasions, watch out!
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494. # [03:20] <Callek> ehsan: btw whoever owns that github++ for | "SeaMonkey:Testing Infrastructure": "TEST_UNEXPECTED_FAIL",|
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496. # [03:21] <@ehsan> lol
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498. # [03:21] <glob> heycam, fyi bmo issues go into the bugzilla.mozilla.org product, not bugzilla
499. # [03:21] <glob> (instance vs product)
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502. # [03:22] <Callek> of course its not *as* funny when you realize that message is used in other Testing* components but still
503. # [03:22] <heycam> glob, ah; thought that was a global feature, not just for our instance
504. # [03:22] <Callek> very funny alone
505. # [03:23] <glob> heycam, :)
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510. # [03:31] <@bz> How good is our test coverage for workers?
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524. # [03:38] <@bz> ehsan, roc: ping
525. # [03:38] <@roc> hi
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527. # [03:39] <@bz> roc: audio nodes aren't event targets or anything, right?
528. # [03:39] <@roc> no
529. # [03:39] <@bz> Great.
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556. # [03:56] <bsmith> ehsan: Does Tetsuharu Ohzeki work for us?
557. # [03:56] <bsmith> I wonder if, like me, he simply doesn't know anything about what's happening in the birth nightlies
558. # [03:57] <jst> bsmith: I don't think so, at least he's not in the phone book...
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565. # [04:02] <njn> jst: I heard you volunteered to run a DMD build for a long time :)
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570. # [04:06] <KWierso|Home> birth nightlies sound exciting!
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598. # [04:20] <Mavericks> Is it convention that !!x and not x is the choice @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/mfbt/Likely.h.html#l15
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604. # [04:23] <@bz> Mavericks: They would behave differently in this case
605. # [04:23] <@bz> Mavericks: the args to __builtin_expect are longs, not bools
606. # [04:24] <@bz> Mavericks: so if you want MOZ_LIKELY(somePointer) to not mispredict, you need the !!
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608. # [04:24] <@bz> Mavericks: This is all perhaps worth a comment.....
609. # [04:24] * njn thought bz was shouting for a second
610. # [04:25] <Mavericks> bz: sorry I was thinking about the line18,19
611. # [04:25] <@bz> njn: heh. ;)
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613. # [04:25] <Mavericks> I should've been more precise njn, bz
614. # [04:25] <@bz> Mavericks: Ah, that's to keep the return value consistent, no?
615. # [04:26] <@bz> Mavericks: Never know when someone will do MOZ_LIKELY(myPtr) + 5 or some such.
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617. # [04:26] <@bz> Would be bad if that behaved differently in different compilers.
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619. # [04:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b03d124ee821 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 810572, part1 - split Accessible::mFlags into bit fields, r=tbsaudne, sr=neil
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621. # [04:30] <Mavericks> bz: :(
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623. # [04:30] <Mavericks> i can't believe i didn't think of that
624. # [04:30] <Mavericks> thanks bz
625. # [04:30] <@bz> Mavericks: no problem.
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629. # [04:35] <nrc> bz: ping
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632. # [04:36] <@bz> nrc: ack
633. # [04:37] <nrc> bz: hi, about your last comment on the throttling OMTA bug - did you have a way in mind for telling if our styles are properly up to date?
634. # [04:37] <@bz> nrc: well, we have various timestamps that are supposed to tell us that, right?
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636. # [04:38] <@bz> nrc: I have to admit I've slightly lost track of where that part has ended up after all the discussion.
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639. # [04:38] <nrc> bz: I think as far as they are concerned, we are up to date, because they assume a mini-flush makes is up to date, but in that case our style tree does not validate (I think)
640. # [04:38] <@bz> nrc: We don't have a separate time for the last time we did a full style flush?
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643. # [04:40] <nrc> bz: we do, but I think we are doing a full flush then a mini-flush in the same tick and then failing to verify
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645. # [04:40] <@bz> Ah, ok.
646. # [04:41] <@bz> Same tick....
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648. # [04:41] <@bz> I suppose we could just keep track of whether we've done a full flush since the last miniflush. :(
649. # [04:41] <@bz> or something.
650. # [04:42] <nrc> bz: I think the trouble is that full flush = 'full' flush + mini-flush, so it's not that we've only done a mini-flush that is the problem, more that we have done a mini-flush at all
651. # [04:42] <nrc> so, that would work, but would skip a lot of verfication
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653. # [04:44] <@bz> nrc: yeah
654. # [04:44] <nrc> it almost seems like we should just skip verification for anything with OMTA, rather than adding a flag to each frame
655. # [04:44] <@bz> That would work too
656. # [04:44] <@bz> I'm just not sure how to fix the verification code.
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659. # [04:44] <@bz> Especially on short notice.
660. # [04:44] <nrc> does that sound risky? I've no idea how important the verification is
661. # [04:45] <@bz> It's caught some bugs in the past.
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663. # [04:45] <@bz> Not in a while, though.
664. # [04:45] <@bz> I think certainly for b2g skipping the verification is ok...
665. # [04:45] <nrc> bz: so, how about I skip verification for animated element and file a bug to fix it?
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667. # [04:46] <nrc> *fix it properly
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669. # [04:47] <@bz> nrc: sounds reasonable.
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672. # [04:48] <nrc> bz: ok; thanks!
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674. # [04:48] <@bz> nrc: no problem.
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677. # [04:50] <jlebar> bz: would you prefer all the CSS DMD stuff in the one bug, or in separate bugs?
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680. # [04:52] <@bz> jlebar: One tracker with things blocking it filed as needed probably works
681. # [04:52] <jlebar> bz: Okay, I can do that.
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686. # [04:59] <mjrosenb> what do I need to include for uint32_t?
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690. # [05:00] <@ehsan> firebot: uuid
691. # [05:00] <firebot> 76e6364a-5453-47c7-ad83-8c30eff20a75 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
692. # [05:00] <jlebar> mjrosenb: <mozilla/StandardInteger.h>, I believe.
693. # [05:00] <jlebar> ("stdint" was taken)
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697. # [05:04] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: yes, that's what you need
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700. # [05:07] <Hughman> AH! I think I know why I had hangs which was not caught by anything. I think it was because both dom.ipc.plugins.timeoutSecs and hangmonitor.timeout was set to 10. Set hangmonitor to 15 and have only had flash crashes since
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723. # [05:40] <jaws> anybody else seeing local build errors like the following? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1986798
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727. # [05:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfaef416ac16 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 796198 - Use the right cookie jar when downloading package and minimanifest for packaged apps - Part 2 : use cookie jars [r=sicking]
728. # [05:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4c6bbc050f6 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 796198 - Use the right cookie jar when downloading package and minimanifest for packaged apps - Part 1: move the xhr to Webapps.jsm [r=sicking]
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772. # [06:18] <vasi> i can't get mozilla-central to build and run on OS X, it errors out because it can't find @executable_path/libsoundtouch.dylib
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775. # [06:19] <vasi> changeset 115508:4dfe323a663d
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777. # [06:21] <vasi> weird, looks like libsoundtouch was built ok...
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781. # [06:25] <njn> can anyone point me to a log with some mac stack traces?
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783. # [06:27] <njn> I should add: ones that have been processed by fix_macosx_stack.py
784. # [06:28] <@dolske> njn: what kind of log?
785. # [06:29] <jdm> vasi: how are you building?
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787. # [06:30] <vasi> jdm: debug, disable-optimize, 64-bit
788. # [06:30] <vasi> dependencies from MacPorts
789. # [06:30] <jdm> vasi: what command are you running?
790. # [06:30] <vasi> make -f client.mk build
791. # [06:30] <vasi> i was able to build earlier revisions without difficulty
792. # [06:31] <jdm> ooh, it looks like libsoundtouch might be removed
793. # [06:31] <jdm> you may need to clobber
794. # [06:31] <jdm> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817315
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796. # [06:31] <jdm> hmm, that's seamonkey
797. # [06:31] <vasi> is a 'make -f client.mk clean' not sufficient?
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800. # [06:32] <markh> I had a soundtouch build issue on windows recently - some built file was ending up in the src dir. I'm not sure of a "clean" fixed that, but "hg status" showed the errant file, I removed it by hand and life was good again
801. # [06:32] <jdm> well, if it didn't/doesn't work, I suggest deleting your objdir and building again
802. # [06:33] <markh> my problem was not fixed by removing the objdir as the bad file was outside of it
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805. # [06:34] <vasi> ugh, maybe i'll just get a fresh checkout
806. # [06:34] <markh> "hg st | grep soundtouch" would show it if it is the same problem
807. # [06:34] <vasi> anyhow i was able to hack together a build by just symlinking libsoundtouch into place :S
808. # [06:35] <markh> err - mine was a build error rather than build success and runtime failure - so it sounds like a different problem. Please ignore me and carry on :)
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812. # [06:38] <vasi> heh, thanks anyhow markh :)
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827. # [06:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee1418ff5eda - Fabrice Desré - Bug 819286 - Crash when browser tab closes while zooming [r=cjones]
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831. # [06:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5908a3ce5507 - Gina Yeh - Bug 819832 - Patch 1: Sending files to Mac would fail at the end of sending process, r=echou
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843. # [06:59] <@gavin> njn: logs on http://tbpl.mozilla.org/ not suitable?
844. # [06:59] <@gavin> click mac build, "view full log"?
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847. # [06:59] <@gavin> oh, I guess most don't have stacks
848. # [07:02] <Mavericks> jaws: permissions issue ?
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850. # [07:03] <@gavin> njn: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17791583&tree=Firefox&full=1 has a stack trace right after "ASSERTION: nsSSLStatus"
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852. # [07:05] <Mavericks> jaws: oh, nm , 'd:\' repeats again in d:\mc\obj-dir\security\d:\mc\security\dbm\src:
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854. # [07:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3968901d047 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 820172 - Fix android build when building with gcc 4.6. r=ehsan
855. # [07:06] <Mavericks> based on http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/js/src/config/nsinstall.py.html#l82
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857. # [07:09] <nigelbot> Did you eat?
858. # [07:09] <nigelbot> grrr
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866. # [07:13] <jaws> Mavericks: it looks like it is a result of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486141
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880. # [07:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d530edaaa6a - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 816835 - Part 2: Marionette test case to remove a setup menu. r=allstars.chh
881. # [07:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf33b009d411 - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 816835 - Part 1: [B2G RIL] Decode Comprehension-TLV failed when its length is 0. r=allstars.chh
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903. # [07:53] <Mavericks> jaws: interesting, taking a look
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909. # [08:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/386f67f3f987 - Richard Newman - Bug 814331 - Check counts before syncing limited cllections. r=nalexander
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936. # [08:22] <Mavericks> jaws: it should've been security\dbm\src. do you've access to linux/mac and see if the build happens fine there ?
937. # [08:24] <firebot> Check-in:
938. # [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a64ee725049e - Shane Caraveo - Bug 809694: implement support for multiple social providers in the front-end, including basic UI to switch between them. Portions of the patch by Gavin Sharp
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940. # [08:24] <firebot> <gavin@gavinsharp.com>, r=gavin, r=markh
941. # [08:24] <Mavericks> jaws:nv it should be fine there. agree that change could be it
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943. # [08:26] <KWierso|Home> mixedpuppy&gavin++
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1084. # [10:21] <glazou> bonjour
1085. # [10:21] <Ms2ger> Morning
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1122. # [10:52] <edmorley> khuey++
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1128. # [10:53] <TheOne> woohoo, I'm debugging Firefox on Linux (scary)
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1143. # [11:12] <edmorley> till: is the part 4 followup going to fix the orange?
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1146. # [11:13] <till> edmorley: I'm pretty sure it is, yes
1147. # [11:13] <edmorley> till: cool, thank you
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1149. # [11:13] <till> edmorley: sure, and sorry for the breakage
1150. # [11:14] <edmorley> np :-)
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1171. # [11:42] <mcsmurf> hi, I have some easy hg question
1172. # [11:43] <till> edmorley: looking good, luckily
1173. # [11:43] <mcsmurf> where/how can I see which changeset/bug removed this file http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/725eb8792d27/toolkit/components/places/nsIPlacesImportExportService.idl ?
1174. # [11:43] <mcsmurf> (the diff is a file removal)
1175. # [11:43] <edmorley> till: :-)
1176. # [11:43] <mcsmurf> clicking on Changeset only says "PGO merge"
1177. # [11:43] <mcsmurf> err mozilla-inbound to m-c merge
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1179. # [11:45] <mcsmurf> or is the file actually still there?
1180. # [11:45] <mcsmurf> hg confuses me...
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1184. # [11:48] <till> mcsmurf: hg log toolkit/components/places/nsIPlacesImportExportService.idl -v --removed
1185. # [11:49] <sicking> till, edmorley: looking up enough that we can open the tree?
1186. # [11:49] <edmorley> sicking: I reopened a couple of mins ago
1187. # [11:49] <sicking> till, edmorley: we have results for mochi 1-5 now
1188. # [11:49] <till> sicking, edmorley: I'd say yes
1189. # [11:49] <till> ah, cool
1190. # [11:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/971c2bbc41aa - Gene Lian - Bug 819136 - Check application types when granting audio-* permissions (part 2). r=sicking, a=blocking-basecamp
1191. # [11:50] <sicking> edmorley: thanks!
1192. # [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8718e5b8bab9 - Randy Lin<rlin@mozilla.com> - Bug 815452 - Don't unmute FM audio if the user increases the volume when FM audio is muted for channel policy reasons. r=sicking
1193. # [11:50] <edmorley> np :-)
1194. # [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97c5efcc2115 - Marco Chen - Bug 811649 - Mute other audio when video recording is started by using an AudioChannelAgent to integrate with AudioChannelService. r=mhabicher a=blocking-basecamp
1195. # [11:50] <mcsmurf> till: ah..
1196. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> but why does the changeset on the hg web interface not display that? Technical limitation?
1197. # [11:52] <edmorley> I think hgweb just isn't great for things like that :-(
1198. # [11:53] <edmorley> I tried for 5-10mins to try and get the relevant push on hgweb and failed
1199. # [11:53] <edmorley> though I'm probably missing the obvious
1200. # [11:54] <NeilAway> huh, is it legal to write struct Foo { virtual ~Foo() = 0; } ?
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1204. # [11:56] <till> The only way to find that in hgweb that I could come up with is to go through the pushlog and see which of the 105 commits looks promising.
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1206. # [11:57] <mcsmurf> heh, I searched for "places" and "history"
1207. # [11:57] <mcsmurf> ah well :D
1208. # [11:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/337aa6725d31 - Gene Lian - Bug 819136 - Check application types when granting audio-* permissions (part 2). r=sicking, a=blocking-basecamp
1209. # [11:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7c372d234b13 - Marco Chen - Bug 811649 - Mute other audio when video recording is started by using an AudioChannelAgent to integrate with AudioChannelService. r=mhabicher a=blocking-basecamp
1210. # [11:58] <NeilAway> till: did you try looking at m-i hgweb?
1211. # [11:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0efb859fe428 - Randy Lin<rlin@mozilla.com> - Bug 815452 - Don't unmute FM audio if the user increases the volume when FM audio is muted for channel policy reasons. r=sicking a=basecamp-blocker
1212. # [11:58] <mcsmurf> NeilAway: but first I would need to find the m-i changeset
1213. # [11:58] <mcsmurf> which removed the file
1214. # [11:59] <mcsmurf> so..
1215. # [11:59] <till> NeilAway: no, but then neither was I personally interested in this specific change, nor did that seem more promising than just using hg log ;)
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1219. # [12:07] <sicking> edmorley: will you uplift bb+ patches to m-a and m-b even if someone else check them in on m-i?
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1221. # [12:08] <edmorley> sicking: I'm not sure if I'll have time sorry
1222. # [12:08] <sicking> edmorley: ok, no worries
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1224. # [12:09] <edmorley> I'll try, but I'm barely keeping up with the backlog with philor away and now RyanVM travelling after his interview
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1226. # [12:09] <sicking> edmorley: totally understandable
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1228. # [12:10] <edmorley> sicking: hopefully once we fill this additional sheriff position we'll have more cylces for that kind of thing :-)
1229. # [12:10] <sicking> edmorley: that would be very awesome indeed :)
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1231. # [12:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/478cdc0fc59f - Lucas Rocha - Bug 800071 - Hide the quit menu item on ICS and greater versions (r=mfinkle)
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1239. # [12:14] <sicking> my builds, my builds!
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1242. # [12:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1181c5df5866 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 819797: Create script for lazy functions before using the script, r=dvander
1243. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4a0aa798038 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 819797: Don't use range information when range analysis is disabled, r=bhackett
1244. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32a37874bfd9 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 813773: Increase speed of calls with unknown function target using IM to IM fastpath, r=nbp,sstangl
1245. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01414463877c - Hannes Verschore - Bug 819299: Add handling of MagicValue(JS_IS_CONSTRUCTING) to MCreateThis, r=dvander
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1252. # [12:27] <Pike> sob, hg.m.o is all princess again
1253. # [12:28] <AutomatedTester> Pike: is there a pea in her bed?
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1255. # [12:29] <Pike> AutomatedTester: more like 500
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1260. # [12:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8288c4940d1e - Eric Chou - Bug 818696 - prevent "pairing failed" prompt from appearing after re-enabling Bluetooth, r=gyeh
1261. # [12:30] <AutomatedTester> Pike: throw on more mattresses then
1262. # [12:30] <edmorley> Pike: lol
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1272. # [12:38] <Pike> edmorley: do you happen to know if there's a bug on it?
1273. # [12:38] <edmorley> Pike: it's wfm at the moment, there are often transient issues like this
1274. # [12:38] <edmorley> bugs I've filed don't seem to result in much
1275. # [12:38] <edmorley> filed previously
1276. # [12:40] <AutomatedTester> sicking: hey, I dont know if remember our conversation about having a mechanism to invalidate AppCache, analogous to invalidating cookies, and I just realised I never raised a bug. What's the best component for this to be under?
1277. # [12:44] <Pike> edmorley: then one more won't hurt, filed bug 820314
1278. # [12:44] <edmorley> Pike: thank you :-)
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1284. # [12:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba667d2eeaba - Hannes Verschore - Bug 816492: Add testcase, r=testcase
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1288. # [12:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/194d8f675d2d - Gene Lian - Bug 811615 - Miss file name when passing file by Web Activity (part 2, ObjectWrapper.jsm). r=fabrice, a=blocking-basecamp
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1294. # [12:56] <sicking> AutomatedTester: probably network
1295. # [12:56] <sicking> AutomatedTester: or "Necko", I forget what it's called in bugzilla
1296. # [12:56] <AutomatedTester> sicking: ok, will go looking for it
1297. # [12:56] <AutomatedTester> sicking: thanks
1298. # [12:58] <jduell> AutomatedTester: sicking: networking:cache is probably best
1299. # [12:58] <AutomatedTester> jduell: ok
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1301. # [13:00] <jduell> sicking: do you know if B2G arm try builds actually run mochitests? I've been waiting for a push to return mochi results for hours now.
1302. # [13:01] <sicking> jduell: they should yes. But you know.. things break. But as far as I know it works
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1314. # [13:13] <TheOne> !seen mano
1315. # [13:13] <firebot> mano was last seen 19 hours, 55 minutes and 24 seconds ago, saying 'thanks much' in #fx-team.
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1322. # [13:18] <edmorley> jduell: there is just a large backlog of linux32 jobs (b2g emulator uses linux32 machines)
1323. # [13:18] <edmorley> jduell: the pending jobs show at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4eb7c5a23f42
1324. # [13:18] <edmorley> jduell: if we didn't run them on Try, the pending jobs wouldn't be there
1325. # [13:18] <jduell> edmorley: ah ok. I was hoping things were faster at 4 AM :)
1326. # [13:18] <edmorley> jduell: yeah is pretty bad :-(
1327. # [13:18] <edmorley> bug 818833 fwiw
1328. # [13:19] <edmorley> third graph at http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/try.html
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1330. # [13:19] <jduell> ooh pretty charts...
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1342. # [13:31] <TheOne> who do I ask for running a on build on a try server?
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1344. # [13:34] <mcsmurf> TheOne: which bug/patch? :)
1345. # [13:34] <TheOne> mcsmurf: bug 550175
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1348. # [13:35] <mcsmurf> hm, guess I need to run the whole testsuite for that
1349. # [13:36] <mcsmurf> not sure which tests could be affected
1350. # [13:36] <mjrosenb> what do I include for ptrdiff_t?
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1356. # [13:43] <tbsaunde> edmorley: when you have a minute do you recognize either of the failures in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1142bfaaf48c ?
1357. # [13:44] <TheOne> mcsmurf: will I get notified about the result?
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1359. # [13:48] <edmorley> tbsaunde: yes, they were broken on inbound, your try push doesn't have the fix changeset
1360. # [13:48] <mcsmurf> TheOne: check https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8fee32557a0f
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1362. # [13:49] <TheOne> mcsmurf: great, thank you!
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1364. # [13:49] <mcsmurf> TheOne: I told the try server to build optimized only and run the whole testsuite and no performance tests
1365. # [13:49] <mcsmurf> TheOne: the Linux tests will probably take many hours
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1367. # [13:50] <TheOne> mcsmurf: that's fine, thanks
1368. # [13:50] <tbsaunde> edmorley: ah, thanks :)
1369. # [13:50] <edmorley> tbsaunde: yw
1370. # [13:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e54109656e93 - Ed Morley - Backout 8288c4940d1e (bug 818696) for crashes
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1373. # [13:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db40186d9d39 - Trevor Saunders - bug 819940 - remove nsISupportsArray::EnumerateForwards() r=ehsan
1374. # [13:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb270f328b5a - Trevor Saunders - bug 801466 - part 3.2 remove some usage of prmem in content/ r=mounir, khuey
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1376. # [13:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13da8dc7b474 - Randell Jesup - Bug 806822: avoid race condition in gathering stats r=ehugg
1377. # [13:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92c1455aca7e - Randell Jesup - Bug 812886: disable peerconnection creation while offline r=smaug
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1381. # [13:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ea2ccfd704e - Randell Jesup - Bug 752657: switch all uses of sigslot to default to multithreaded (win32 already defaults that way) r=ekr
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1389. # [14:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88fd42043056 - Ed Morley - Backout 194d8f675d2d & 251a18603db4 (bug 811615) for xpcshell and mochitest failures
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1398. # [14:17] <NeilAway> eek!
1399. # [14:19] * NeilAway expects tbsaunde to have send c-c into flames at the next m-c merge :s
1400. # [14:19] <NeilAway> s/have//
1401. # [14:19] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: oh? :(
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1403. # [14:20] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/news/src/nsNntpService.cpp#663
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1405. # [14:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e594a31444ee - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 717853 (follow-up): Remove the extra '.' char in the suffix of dumped files. r=me.
1406. # [14:20] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/news/src/nsNntpService.cpp?mark=670,672,682#663 to be more specific
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1408. # [14:22] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: yeah, I see :(
1409. # [14:22] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: also http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/src/nsMsgAccountManagerDS.cpp#1046
1410. # [14:22] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: also and http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/src/nsMsgAccountManagerDS.cpp#573 in the same file
1411. # [14:22] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I even hate greping for these things since all the arrays have atleast similar named things :S
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1413. # [14:22] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: and lots of places in nsMsgAccountManager.cpp :s
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1415. # [14:23] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: ugh :(
1416. # [14:23] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: although we could at least switch m_accounts to an nsCOMArray or something to alleviate that
1417. # [14:23] <@smaug> what did tbsaunde change
1418. # [14:23] <NeilAway> smaug: bug 819940
1419. # [14:23] <@smaug> oh, supportsarray stuff
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1421. # [14:24] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: yeah, I've been switching a bunch of stuff to nsCOMArray, other than some really wild wild west people who put multiple interfaces into the same array!
1422. # [14:25] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: want me to back it out and give you a couple days to fix c-c?
1423. # [14:25] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: ask Standard8
1424. # [14:25] <tbsaunde> Standard8: ^
1425. # [14:25] <paul> gavin: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788977#c40
1426. # [14:26] <tbsaunde> I guess I could just write you guys a patch instead
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1430. # [14:33] <Standard8> NeilAway: strange, I thought TB didn't need nsMsgAccountManagerDS now
1431. # [14:34] <Standard8> NeilAway: tbsaunde: I'm going to bet on this needing to be an nsIArray
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1434. # [14:35] <tbsaunde> Standard8: I haven't looked deeply, you may well be right
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1439. # [14:39] <tbsaunde> smaug: relatedly I don't suppose you know why nsDocShell sticks nsITimers and nsITimercallbacks in the same array?
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1463. # [15:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f1c0c74ea9f5 - Thomas Zimmermann - bug 809367: SUTAgent gets into state where it will not execute commands, requires reboot. r=ted, a=lsblakk
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1475. # [15:02] <@smaug> tbsaunde: dunno
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1482. # [15:05] <tbsaunde> smaug: ok :)
1483. # [15:07] <@smaug> tbsaunde: which supportsarray usage you're talking about?
1484. # [15:07] <@smaug> mSavedRefreshURIList; ?
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1486. # [15:09] <tbsaunde> smaug: yeah, mRefreshURIList, and mSavedRefreshURIList
1487. # [15:09] <@smaug> the supportsarray members of nsDocShell were added 2004 and 2005
1488. # [15:09] <tbsaunde> smaug: if don't know don't worry about it :)
1489. # [15:09] <tbsaunde> just figured it might be something you knew about :)
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1500. # [15:17] <mcsmurf> glandium: ping
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1503. # [15:17] <glandium> mcsmurf: pong
1504. # [15:18] <mcsmurf> glandium: hi, I've heard that you created/requested a safebrowsing API key for Iceweasel. that's correct? (I have a question on that)
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1507. # [15:19] <glandium> mcsmurf: i'm just using the public ones
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1509. # [15:19] <glandium> mcsmurf: and got google to accept the iceweasel name
1510. # [15:20] <mcsmurf> public as in the one Firefox uses?
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1512. # [15:20] <mcsmurf> and yeah, I'm currently looking into what's required for SeaMonkey to use the safebrowsing api
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1514. # [15:20] <mcsmurf> so either own API key or to get Google to accept the seamonkey name
1515. # [15:21] <glandium> mcsmurf: see bug 557752
1516. # [15:22] <glandium> mcsmurf: and http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-mozilla/iceweasel.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4c7f49dd1b6b08de577eadefd5156a38b5596dc
1517. # [15:22] <mcsmurf> ok thanks
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1523. # [15:26] <glandium> how can i get hg log to tell me when file mode changed?
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1534. # [15:34] <glandium> one more reason to hate mercurial: if there was no content change to a file, it won't tell you what changed the file mode...
1535. # [15:35] <sheppy> glandium: we need more reasons?
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1539. # [15:38] <froydnj> hm, thousands of undefined symbol errors while compiling JS...
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1543. # [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2172b8ef3cc - Patrick Wang - Bug 798000 - Part 1 - Read EF_OPL, EF_PNN files and update network name. r=vicamo
1544. # [15:39] * glandium is using hg bisect (!) to find what rev changed a file mode... sigh
1545. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fe9b3023000 - Patrick Wang - Bug 798000 - Part 2 - Test cases r=vicamo
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1549. # [15:42] <catlee> glandium: hg log -p doesn't tell you?
1550. # [15:42] <glandium> catlee: not if there's no content change at the same time
1551. # [15:42] <catlee> awesome
1552. # [15:43] <edmorley> is it just me, or has the aspect ration of the about box in Nightly changed?
1553. # [15:43] <edmorley> s/ration/ratio/
1554. # [15:43] <_AtilA_> Hey Waldo,
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1556. # [15:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1562979f08f8 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 820220 - Part 1/2: fix extra octets sent in multipart UCS2 encoded messages, r=yoshi
1557. # [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e217e280f14a - Vicamo Yang - Bug 820220 - Part 2/2: xpcshell test case, r=yoshi
1558. # [15:47] <Waldo> hey _AtilA_
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1560. # [15:47] <_AtilA_> Forcing jArray_nullptr_t to typedef decltype(nullptr) jArray_nullptr_t, did the trick
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1562. # [15:48] <_AtilA_> The point is that I included <cstddef> (where std::nullptr_t is defined)... but it didn't work... not really sure why
1563. # [15:49] <Standard8> tbsaunde: NeilAway: sorry, I got distracted I'll take a look at the bustage
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1565. # [15:49] <Waldo> is std::nullptr_t defined there? given nullptr is a keyword, I'd think it'd be available without any header
1566. # [15:49] <Standard8> (potential bustage)
1567. # [15:49] * Waldo looks it up
1568. # [15:50] <davidb> hsivonen: please cc me on the main bug :)
1569. # [15:51] <Waldo> hmm, might be
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1571. # [15:51] <Waldo> (require the header)
1572. # [15:51] <_AtilA_> std::nullptr_t?
1573. # [15:52] <Waldo> yeah
1574. # [15:52] <Waldo> guess it does, really
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1576. # [15:53] <_AtilA_> But I included it (on jArray.h), and the compiler still complains about std::nullptr_t not being a type
1577. # [15:53] <Waldo> could be your glibc headers don't define it, maybe?
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1579. # [15:54] <glandium> _AtilA_: android?
1580. # [15:54] <_AtilA_> Yep
1581. # [15:54] <glandium> _AtilA_: there's an open bug on that iirc
1582. # [15:54] <_AtilA_> Really? I serach for it :(
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1585. # [15:55] <_AtilA_> *serached
1586. # [15:55] <_AtilA_> *searched
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1589. # [15:55] <_AtilA_> glandium, Do you have a link?
1590. # [15:55] <Standard8> tbsaunde: oh, and btw, I'm quite happy to test out patches before they land in c-c land, and give you quick feedback if we need to change things or not
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1593. # [15:56] <glandium> _AtilA_: can't find it. i'm pretty sure i saw something about stlport not having std::nullptr_t recently ; maybe it wasn't on bugzilla
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1595. # [15:57] <Waldo> hmm
1596. # [15:57] <_AtilA_> let me check the headers..
1597. # [15:57] <Waldo> I just got spam with the subject URGENT.c
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1599. # [15:58] <tbsaunde> Standard8: ok, I'll try and keep that in mind, sorry
1600. # [15:59] <glandium> _AtilA_: bug 820172
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1605. # [15:59] <Standard8> tbsaunde: np, the deal is that m-c can break c-c at any time, but if folks give us a heads-up, we'll try and be responsive
1606. # [15:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09f572ba2eea - Jeff Walden - Bug 805121 - Be more careful checking math to avoid incorrect behaviors. r=terrence
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1608. # [16:00] <yzen> paul: ping
1609. # [16:01] <paul> yzen: pong
1610. # [16:02] <_AtilA_> oh! thks glandium
1611. # [16:02] <yzen> paul: RE:803067 One more clarification, the original constructor function: should I change it to not do what the decorate will from now on?
1612. # [16:03] <paul> yzen: right
1613. # [16:03] <Waldo> mm, time zone fun
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1616. # [16:03] <paul> yzen: `new EventEmitter()` should not decorate (or even have any arguments)
1617. # [16:04] <yzen> paul: makes sense, thanks!
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1645. # [16:22] <grubshka> I've a strange error building firefox on mozilla-beta (just cloned) on my new linux box, any tip? : mozilla-beta/intl/locale/src/nsCharsetAlias.h:40:29: error: nsICharsetAlias.h: No such file or directory
1646. # [16:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e90311488c8c - Ed Morley - Bug 820221 - Disable browser_dbg_cmd.js on Windows for too many intermittent failures
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1665. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b5953a0cbf7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 820351 - Use pymake native touch in config/makefiles/autotargets.mk. r=ted
1666. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcec67acfda3 - Mike Hommey - Bug 820351 - Add support for -t option of touch in pymake builtins. r=ted
1667. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd9010b6bad3 - Mike Hommey - Bug 820289 - Quote paths in install/preprocessing/mkdir "magic" rules. r=ted
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1670. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cb7d5b30fa9 - Mike Hommey - Bug 820158 - Adjust log4moz.js import from marionettecomponent.js after bug 817076. r=jgriffin
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1673. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e602d45eef10 - Mike Hommey - Bug 820053 - Properly install browser theme's icon. r=ted
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1687. # [16:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d297fbdd50fb - Mats Palmgren - Bug 820219 - Remove the PR_ prefix for a few PR_[U]INT32_MAX that has been added since bug 791906. r=roc
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1723. # [17:00] <tbsaunde> hm, so what is the most reasonable way we have of returning a set of strings in xpidl?
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1728. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, nsIVariant, I guess
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1730. # [17:01] <@smaug> tbsaunde: supportsarray :)
1731. # [17:01] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: how much would you hate me if I used nsIDOMDOMSStringList?
1732. # [17:02] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, a lot
1733. # [17:02] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: but its comparitively nice :(
1734. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, yes, but I want to kill it
1735. # [17:03] <tbsaunde> smaug: itym array of wstring
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1738. # [17:03] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: killing as a dom thing I agree with
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1741. # [17:04] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: but given xpidl will be around for a while and passing around lists of strings is common I think its a reasonable thing to keep around
1742. # [17:05] <Waldo> are you sure you didn't mean nsIDOMDOMDOMStringList?
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1745. # [17:06] <davidb> that's beet oven's version
1746. # [17:06] <davidb> apparently beetoven autocorrects to beet oven
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1749. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> Beethoven?
1750. # [17:07] <froydnj> davidb++
1751. # [17:07] <davidb> Ms2ger: err yes :)
1752. # [17:07] <davidb> the Ludwig
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1762. # [17:11] <edmorley> any guesses as to which of mats' csets caused https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17825394&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
1763. # [17:11] <edmorley> presume underspecified #includes surfaced by his reshufflings?
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1765. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I bet the namespace one
1766. # [17:13] <edmorley> even though it only adds an include?
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1773. # [17:15] <evilpie> okay dom bugs have upsides and downsides
1774. # [17:15] <jdm> heh
1775. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> edmorley, mm, probably the nsContentUtils one, then
1776. # [17:15] <seif> jdm, i rwrote my script to work with hg
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1781. # [17:16] <jdm> seif: that sounds useful
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1783. # [17:16] <seif> jdm, still same weird results
1784. # [17:17] <jdm> I chose git for mine because there was a python library handy and I didn't want to munge text output
1785. # [17:17] <seif> as in somehow the tags are wrong
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1787. # [17:17] <evilpie> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676619#c109 weird considering the tests the opposite ...
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1828. # [17:39] <akeybl> still looking for you to land..
1829. # [17:39] <@bsmedberg> jdm: is contribute@mozilla.org a public mailing list?
1830. # [17:39] <jdm> bsmedberg: no. what are you trying to do?
1831. # [17:40] <@bsmedberg> who gets those?
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1833. # [17:40] <jdm> bsmedberg: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Point_people, I think
1834. # [17:40] <@bsmedberg> I'm just wondering how they are handled
1835. # [17:40] <naoliv> At least once in the day aurora crashes here. With strace I can see that it's stuck in a futex ("futex(0x7fa830d5ec4c, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL"). How can I debug this, please?
1836. # [17:40] <@bsmedberg> naoliv: what os? and is this a crash or a hang?
1837. # [17:41] <naoliv> A hang actually. Linux.
1838. # [17:41] <@bsmedberg> naoliv: if you can break in a debugger and provide a stack at the point of the hang, that is certainly bug-worthy
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1840. # [17:42] <naoliv> Are there instructions available somewhere on how can I do this, please?
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1845. # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> naoliv: hrm, good question. Which part do you need instructions for?
1846. # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> the "breaking in a debugger" or "filing a bug"?
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1849. # [17:45] <naoliv> First part. Would it be "running it with gdb"?
1850. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> that's not really necessary, no
1851. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> but...
1852. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> the problem is that the nightly builds don't have symbols (because they are quite large)
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1855. # [17:47] <naoliv> bsmedberg: My build is from 2012-12-07 and I have debugging symbols. I am seeing such hangs since, at least, June.
1856. # [17:47] <@bsmedberg> it has symbols? That's odd
1857. # [17:47] <@bsmedberg> where did you get it?
1858. # [17:47] <naoliv> http://mozilla.debian.net/
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1860. # [17:47] <@bsmedberg> oh, I see
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1862. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> well in that case, wait until it hangs
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1864. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> and then you do something like "gdb /path/to/firefox PID-of-firefox"
1865. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> that will attach the debugger to the process
1866. # [17:48] <ochameau> someone knows how to set a preference from a content process? Preferences::SetInt, or nsIPrefBranch.setIntPref both reject any call from a content process :(
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1868. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> ochameau, nicely ask your parent process?
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1870. # [17:49] <@bsmedberg> ochameau: short answer, you cannot do that on purpose
1871. # [17:50] <naoliv> bsmedberg: and "thread apply all bt full" inside gdb?
1872. # [17:50] <@bsmedberg> naoliv: yeah, that should provide the interesting data
1873. # [17:50] <naoliv> bsmedberg: right. Thanks.
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1876. # [17:50] <seif> jdm, so can you give me a command with all commits between 2 firefox releases
1877. # [17:50] <seif> hg if possible
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1879. # [17:50] <jdm> I don't know hg well enough, sorry
1880. # [17:51] <@bsmedberg> seif: just a sec, I blogged about this
1881. # [17:51] <jdm> seif: are you looking at mozilla-release?
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1883. # [17:51] <@bsmedberg> seif: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2012-07-09/using-mercurial-revsets-to-search-for-changes-between-firefox-releases/
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1885. # [17:51] <ochameau> Ms2ger, bsmedberg: I'm trying to make this code work on b2g: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#892 any idea how to do that?
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1887. # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> ochameau: the parent process should be showing that prompt anyway, right?
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1892. # [17:54] <seif> bsmedberg, this makes sense now
1893. # [17:54] <ochameau> in b2g it is displayed by the browser app that lives in parent process, but doesn't have access to preferences API
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1899. # [17:55] <@bsmedberg> ochameau: you'll need to send a message back saying that the user chose to never see a slow-script dialog again
1900. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> and the real parent can then set the pref
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1902. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> that way we maintain the security constraint of not setting arbitrary prefs
1903. # [17:56] <@gavin> paul: replied in the bug
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1905. # [17:57] <ochameau> isn't it acceptable to add this pref to the whitelist and use nsIContentPrefService?
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1915. # [18:00] <seif> bsmedberg, so i am playing with your query
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1918. # [18:01] <seif> bsmedberg,
1919. # [18:01] <seif> hg log -r 'ancestor(FIREFOX_16_0_RELEASE,FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE)::FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE' --template '{author|email} '
1920. # [18:01] <seif> gives me only 1 commit for josh
1921. # [18:01] <seif> ==> jdm
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1923. # [18:02] <seif> jdm, is that true?
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1925. # [18:02] <jdm> that's probably not the best testcase, since I don't know if that's true or not
1926. # [18:02] * jdm checks bugzilla
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1928. # [18:02] <seif> yeah but looking at you commit history you did alot in that timeframe
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1936. # [18:03] <@bsmedberg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20owner%3Ajosh%40joshmatthews.net%20milestone%3Afirefox17;list_id=5189760
1937. # [18:03] <@bsmedberg> doesn't list any
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1939. # [18:04] <jdm> bsmedberg: I don't trust that; according to it I didn't fix any in 15, 16, 17, or 18
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1941. # [18:04] <@bsmedberg> oh
1942. # [18:04] <@bsmedberg> oh TM is "mozilla"
1943. # [18:04] <seif> bsmedberg, can you attest the following commits
1944. # [18:04] <seif> "benjamin@smedbergs.us": {
1945. # [18:04] <seif> "FIREFOX_16_0_RELEASE": 17,
1946. # [18:04] <seif> "FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE": 7
1947. # [18:04] <seif> },
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1951. # [18:05] <jdm> seif: according to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20owner%3Ajosh%40joshmatthews.net%20milestone%3Amozilla16;list_id=5189766 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20owner%3Ajosh%40joshmatthews.net%20milestone%3Amozilla17;list_id=5189766 it's correct
1952. # [18:05] <jdm> can't argue with bugzilla
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1957. # [18:06] <seif> jdm,
1958. # [18:06] <seif> "josh@joshmatthews.net": {
1959. # [18:06] <seif> "FIREFOX_16_0_RELEASE": 2,
1960. # [18:06] <seif> "FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE": 1
1961. # [18:06] <seif> },
1962. # [18:06] <seif> i got 2 commits from you for 16 and 1 for 17
1963. # [18:07] <seif> ==> 50% down :P
1964. # [18:07] <seif> bsmedberg, ==> 41% down
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1967. # [18:09] <@bz> Where do I file "my LDAP expired, please reset" bugs?
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1969. # [18:10] <glob> bz, ask for help on #desktop
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1971. # [18:11] <glob> bz, normally servicenow, but that's linked with ldap, so irc is your best bet
1972. # [18:11] <@bz> lol
1973. # [18:11] * jimm is now known as jimm-lunch
1974. # [18:11] <jhammel> in other words, you're done ;)
1975. # [18:11] <glob> pack your bags
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1978. # [18:13] <seif> jdm, http://fpaste.org/nXb4/ voila
1979. # [18:13] <seif> i will make it use argv later, need to get some things done
1980. # [18:13] <jdm> heh, that's much cleaner than yesterday
1981. # [18:13] <jdm> nice work
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1984. # [18:14] <seif> jdm, yeah will clean it up
1985. # [18:14] <seif> still dirty
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1994. # [18:17] <@bz> glob: I recall wondering how long it would take till bugzilla depended on ldap and such... ;)
1995. # [18:18] <glob> bz, i strongly suspect never
1996. # [18:19] <Ms2ger`> glob, because we'll all have to use B2G instead
1997. # [18:19] <Ms2ger`> I mean, light themes
1998. # [18:19] <Ms2ger`> Er, Personas
1999. # [18:19] <glob> Ms2ger`, ha, fail
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2002. # [18:19] * till really needs to change his IRC nick one of these days. bz's sentence would've made so much more sense.
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2007. # [18:20] <jdm> haha
2008. # [18:20] <jhammel> till: nah, you can just make fun of people who use your name when they mean "'til"
2009. # [18:20] <jdm> till: change it to until
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2011. # [18:20] <Ms2ger`> Clearly he should have said "I recall wondering how long it would take till bz depended on ldap and such"
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2014. # [18:21] <jhammel> Ms2ger`++
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2018. # [18:23] <till> Ms2ger`: That would've made much more sense, yes, thank you ;)
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2021. # [18:24] * @khuey waits for someone to work Ms2ger into a sentence
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2025. # [18:25] <till> Clearly, that sentence would have to be about a major software company moving to a country in western Europe
2026. # [18:25] <jhammel> "Ms. 2Ger's data plan is several generations behind"
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2030. # [18:26] <ldap> heh
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2032. # [18:27] <@bsmedberg> Final notice: LDAP password expiring.
2033. # [18:27] <@bsmedberg> The ultimate cause of depression ;-)
2034. # [18:28] <ldap> this is your final warning
2035. # [18:28] <ldap> I am eating your password as we speak
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2037. # [18:28] * ldap om nom nom
2038. # [18:28] <@khuey> lol
2039. # [18:28] <jdm> Dammit, my ldap password is expiring too
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2041. # [18:29] * ldap expires quietly with pleasure
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2049. # [18:35] <seif> so jdm here is code for you to test
2050. # [18:35] <seif> http://fpaste.org/IJip/
2051. # [18:35] <seif> you can run it by doing
2052. # [18:35] <jdm> Dammit
2053. # [18:35] <seif> python test.py FIREFOX_15_0_RELEASE FIREFOX_16_0_RELEASE FIREFOX_17_0_RELEASE > out.txt
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2055. # [18:36] <seif> make sure its located in mozilla-release
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2057. # [18:36] <Mavericks> jaws: do you still get that error ?
2058. # [18:36] <ldap> seif: nice :)
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2060. # [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1903c2b01ae - Geoff Brown - Bug 820322 - Avoid NPE in testHistoryTab; r=wesj
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2062. # [18:38] <till> seif++
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2066. # [18:41] <seif> ldap, till http://fpaste.org/gqVN/ here is the output
2067. # [18:41] <seif> tell me if you can find your names in there
2068. # [18:42] <till> seif: yes, very nice!
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2075. # [18:43] <seif> till do the numbers makes sense?
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2077. # [18:43] <till> seif: I'm just checking that now
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2079. # [18:43] <seif> till thanks
2080. # [18:44] <till> seif: do you have a time-range for one of the releases, so I can check against central?
2081. # [18:44] <seif> i can give you the hg command i used
2082. # [18:44] <seif> i dont have a timerange
2083. # [18:44] <MrDHat> I wanna start contributing to Gaia, what are the ways i can do that(the coding part)?What technologies are required to contribute?
2084. # [18:44] <seif> i am trying to automate it
2085. # [18:45] <till> seif: sure, I just meant for a quick manual comparison. But I can roughly work it out
2086. # [18:45] <@khuey> MrDHat: you should join #gaia and ask your questions there
2087. # [18:46] <MrDHat> khuey: Thanks :)
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2092. # [18:46] <seif> till i can check in a bit, i need to run out
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2094. # [18:46] <till> seif: sure, np
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2107. # [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1245c60df42 - Wes Johnston - Bug 809401 - Allow scrolling subframes in webapps. r=kats
2108. # [18:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea0207f326a6 - Wes Johnston - Bug 816875 - Add a "Show Controls" option to video elements. r=mfinkle
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2115. # [18:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bb5a5a91af6 - Randell Jesup - Bug 752657: backout sigslot multithreaded due to deadlocks rs=jesup
2116. # [18:53] <till> evilpie: don't you live close to Darmstadt?
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2122. # [18:54] <evilpie> yes
2123. # [18:54] <evilpie> till: ^
2124. # [18:54] <seif> dann servus :D
2125. # [18:54] <seif> i live in darmstadt
2126. # [18:54] <till> evilpie, meet seif, seif, meet evilpie ;)
2127. # [18:54] <padenot> what is the most straightforward way to print an nsString for debugging purposes?
2128. # [18:55] <evilpie> ah hey :)
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2131. # [18:56] <seif> evilpie, gude :D
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2133. # [18:57] <Ms2ger`> padenot, NS_ConvertUTF16toUTF8(str).get()
2134. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f24f9052578a - Marco Chen - Bug 819275 - [Audio] The Usage of nsRefPtr for AudioChannelService is Wrong. r=roc, a=blocking-basecamp
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2136. # [18:57] <padenot> Ms2ger`: thanks
2137. # [18:57] <Ms2ger`> Np
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2141. # [18:59] <Waldo> "straightforward"
2142. # [18:59] <Waldo> Gecko needs a jimb to make gdb debugging helpers
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2144. # [18:59] <Mavericks> jaws: nvm, just took a look at the bug :)
2145. # [18:59] <Ms2ger`> Waldo, I believe there are ways to print 16-bit chars in gdb, I just don't know them
2146. # [18:59] <@khuey> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4905024
2147. # [19:00] <@khuey> and the first response
2148. # [19:00] <Waldo> there are, it's something like x/Nch char16Ptr
2149. # [19:00] <Waldo> total fugly
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2151. # [19:00] <padenot> on a related note, are the gdb helpers for the js code supposed to work?
2152. # [19:01] <Waldo> padenot: not in Gecko yet, see the last comment or so in that bug
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2154. # [19:02] <padenot> that bug?
2155. # [19:02] <edmorley> what is it with all the new intermittent failures on TBPL the last two weeks?! :-(
2156. # [19:02] <Waldo> the bug introducing the gdb helper stuff initially
2157. # [19:02] * Waldo doesn't know the number offhand
2158. # [19:02] <Waldo> revlog js/src/gdb or so
2159. # [19:03] <padenot> thanks, will search
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2161. # [19:03] <till> khuey: how did he manage to pay money for Chrome?
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2170. # [19:06] <@khuey> till: I have no idea
2171. # [19:06] <Waldo> probably the same way people pay for Firefox
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2173. # [19:07] <till> oh, Gerv might have written a post or two about that, yes
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2177. # [19:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2fb469965c13 - Ms2ger - Bug 776539 - Move FormData to Paris bindings; r=bz
2178. # [19:07] <@bz> khuey: I wish we could try/catch memory errors like that!
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2180. # [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf46c86deb67 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 818343 - Introduce gesture quick navigation. r=davidb
2181. # [19:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bdbb9387541 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 817869 - Consolidate Android and B2G touch adapter. r=davidb
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2184. # [19:11] <Waldo> bz: I'm on it
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2186. # [19:12] <biesi> Ms2ger`, Waldo: x/hs your_prunichar_ptr
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2188. # [19:13] <@khuey> bz: indeed
2189. # [19:13] * Waldo idly wishes for a coffee/tea mug with a builtin temperature regulator
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2192. # [19:14] <till> seif: the numbers look right to me
2193. # [19:14] <jwir3> should crashtests fail on hang?
2194. # [19:14] <jesup|laptop> Grrrr. FlashBlock was why when I restart (on my 22-window, 980 tab profile) it only opens 1 window (though about:tabs says I have 22).
2195. # [19:15] <seif> till will look into getting these stats patched up with badges
2196. # [19:15] <till> cool!
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2199. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4db89f8e3fbf - Eric Chou - Bug 818696 - prevent "pairing failed" prompt from appearing after re-enabling Bluetooth, r=gyeh
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2201. # [19:17] * till wonders what a fraft might be
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2206. # [19:19] <jhammel> till: its between an eRaft and a gRaft
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2208. # [19:20] <jesup|laptop> Hmmm. Maybe not FlashBlock. It was still doing it after I re-enabled a number of other extensions (about:jank, Profiler), and went away again when I disabled Test Pilot. Let's see if I can bring back FlashBlock now...
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2214. # [19:21] <jesup|laptop> Ok, it's both FlashBlock *and* Test Pilot that block me from restoring windows!
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2216. # [19:21] <till> jhammel: that makes sense. I guess.
2217. # [19:22] <@bz> jesup|laptop: might have flash in them; gotta block.
2218. # [19:22] <gregglind> 'restoring windows'? (sez the test pilot maintainer)
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2221. # [19:23] <gregglind> I am a bit confused on the symptom here.
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2224. # [19:24] <Waldo> jhammel: a float raft, but isn't that likely redundant?
2225. # [19:24] <jesup|laptop> I.e. when I restart, only one window re-opens, though it says I have 22. And it appears all sorts of extensions trigger this (FlashBlock, Test Pilot, HackTheWeb). All are non-restartless it appears
2226. # [19:25] <@bz> gregglind: basically breaks session restore somehow
2227. # [19:25] <@bz> gregglind: and it sounds like what breaks it is the SDK, not test pilot per se...
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2231. # [19:26] <gregglind> noted. TP does use the old cuddlefish / loader / sandboxing stuff.
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2274. # [19:43] <jduell> akeybl: do we still need to ask for approval to land e10s-only code changes to aurora/beta?
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2278. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34c9ccee8058 - Josh Matthews - Bug 782542 - Secure necko IPDL usage. r=ted,jduell
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2280. # [19:47] <froydnj> Waldo: re gdb debugging helpers, have you used jdm's?
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2284. # [19:49] <akeybl> jduell: if it's really limited to e10s and has no risk to other platforms, land away
2285. # [19:49] <akeybl> if it does, let's go through approval
2286. # [19:49] <Waldo> froydnj: no
2287. # [19:49] <Waldo> froydnj: I elevate laziness to a mandate
2288. # [19:49] <jduell> akeybl: ok, I've got one that's pure e10s and one that's got a little 'o beta in it. I'll ask for +a on that one :)
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2300. # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fac650c31656 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 819033 - Part 1: Add add_task() to xpcshell runner; r=ted
2301. # [19:52] <froydnj> Waldo: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/jblandy_mozilla.com/archer-mozilla/
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2316. # [20:00] <edmorley> glob: b.m.o slow for you too?
2317. # [20:00] <jhammel> edmorley: i hear we hired a coupla guys to improve that ;)
2318. # [20:00] <glob> edmorley, yes; we're trying to figure it out (high load on db cluster)
2319. # [20:00] <edmorley> (loading existing bug; submitting new bugs)
2320. # [20:00] <edmorley> ah, sorry! :-)
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2322. # [20:02] <@gavin> molasses!
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2324. # [20:02] <@gavin> someone get the molasses out of the db!
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2326. # [20:02] <jhammel> gavin: oh, i thought you meant mo-lasses as a suggested moniker for the females at Mozilla
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2331. # [20:05] <aleth> How can I mark a XUL element as 'dirty' (via JS) so it gets relayouted?
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2333. # [20:06] <@ehsan> edmorley: what do you make out of this orange? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17805580&tree=Birch
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2335. # [20:07] <edmorley> ehsan: there are a lot of crashes at the moment during debugger tests, with js signatures
2336. # [20:07] <edmorley> so plausible intermittnet
2337. # [20:07] <@ehsan> yeah
2338. # [20:07] <@ehsan> edmorley: for now I'm totally disregarding any devtools failures ;)
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2340. # [20:07] <edmorley> some of the tests are pretty flaky unfortunately
2341. # [20:08] <edmorley> though I know several people are working hard to resolve that
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2343. # [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ee7c79e2ff0 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 816575 - Remove call to SetRenderAndroidVM when not using internal renderer. r=tterribe
2344. # [20:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80931869c457 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 813918 - Fix nICEr build for Android. r=dmose
2345. # [20:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a02a0f64ee61 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 813913 - WebRTC signaling code doesn't yet build on Android. r=dmose rs=dmose
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2348. # [20:09] <edmorley> ehsan: I'll file that for you if that helps?
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2353. # [20:11] <NeilAway> ehsan: I tried and presumably failed twice to comment on your blog?
2354. # [20:11] <@ehsan> edmorley: nah, I'll just ignore it ;)
2355. # [20:11] <@ehsan> NeilAway: how so?
2356. # [20:11] <mcsmurf> aleth: not sure, but try accessing the clientTop property of the top-most node?
2357. # [20:12] <mcsmurf> aleth: iirc reading certain CSS properties causes reflows, but I'm not sure on that..
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2360. # [20:12] <sfink> ehsan: oh yeah, I failed to comment on your blog a week or three back
2361. # [20:12] <edmorley> thank you for filing that m-c intermittent, I'm still working my way old-to-new... caught up to Sunday evening so far
2362. # [20:13] <@ehsan> sfink: hmm, by failing you mean did you see an error?
2363. # [20:13] * mjschranz_lunch is now known as mjschranz
2364. # [20:13] <@ehsan> or what?
2365. # [20:14] <sfink> ehsan: from vague memory, first problem was that the comment area was smashed down into 5 pixels high or something until I finally found a grippy to resize it, and even then I don't think all the fields appeared
2366. # [20:14] <@ehsan> hmm
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2368. # [20:14] <sfink> ehsan: then when I managed to enter a comment in and submit it (I think), it never showed up
2369. # [20:14] <@ehsan> yeah I just tried it, and I don't see anything in the moderation queue :(
2370. # [20:14] <sfink> ehsan: then again, it was a dumb comment, so I thought the latter might just be that you moderated it away
2371. # [20:15] <@ehsan> hehe
2372. # [20:15] <aleth> mcsmurf: Hmm, I'll try that, thanks.
2373. # [20:15] <@ehsan> actually I've never moderated a comment on this new blog
2374. # [20:15] <avih> vlad: any idea on where can i get a (quick?) intro on presentation context/shell how is the refresh driver used by them?
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2376. # [20:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/efb1e80d8f26 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 814027 - Make domDoc into a COMPtr in Navigator::Vibrate. r=jlebar a=akeybl
2377. # [20:15] <@ehsan> maybe that's an indication of something? ;)
2378. # [20:15] <@bz> aleth: what are you trying to do?
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2380. # [20:15] <@bz> aleth: things should be marked dirty automatically as needed...
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2384. # [20:16] <aleth> bz: There are some problems with listboxes when items are added while the listbox is collapsed or hidden. Those items often (not always) don't get bound properly when they become visible
2385. # [20:16] <avih> any idea on where can i get a (quick?) intro on presentation context/shell how is the refresh driver used by them?
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2388. # [20:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10eeae450462 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 814027 - Make domDoc into a COMPtr in Navigator::Vibrate. r=jlebar
2389. # [20:17] <aleth> bz: afaik these are 'known but wontfix' issues (bugs that look relevant say things like 'will be fixed in XBL2' ;) )
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2391. # [20:18] <NeilAway> ehsan: how what?
2392. # [20:18] <NeilAway> ehsan: I tried twice, I'm just presuming it failed twice ;-)
2393. # [20:18] <@ehsan> hmm, yeah there's definitely a problem...
2394. # [20:19] <aleth> bz: Hence the need for a workaround...
2395. # [20:19] <@ehsan> NeilAway: sfink: I'm looking into it..
2396. # [20:20] <@bz> aleth: ah. You could set the whole thing display:none, then flush layout, then unset display?
2397. # [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2350ed0a5b3f - EKR - Bug 792175 - Move PeerConnection operations onto main thread. r=jesup,derf,ehugg
2398. # [20:20] <@bz> avih: The refresh driver just notifies observers
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2400. # [20:21] <avih> bz: yes, but it also triggers painting (as far as i understand when its presContext is a chrome window)
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2402. # [20:22] <avih> bz: my hope for an intro on the relations between these still stands.
2403. # [20:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65186454c480 - Chris Jones - Bug 819714: Take away the nice things from desktop b2g builds. r=vingtetun
2404. # [20:22] <aleth> bz: hmm. Flush layout how? (i.e. can I avoid a visible repaint inbetween?)
2405. # [20:22] <NeilAway> ehsan: in the mean time I've just added a comment to bug 799640
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2408. # [20:23] <@ehsan> NeilAway: sfink: should be fixed now
2409. # [20:24] <vlad> avih: mmmm
2410. # [20:24] <vlad> avih: ideally you'd get that from roc I think, and then maybe write up a document based on what he says so that we can put it ont he wiki ;)
2411. # [20:25] <avih> vlad: ideally, i agree ;)
2412. # [20:25] <vlad> mainly becuase I don't really know a whole ton of the details myself
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2414. # [20:26] <avih> i would drown in ton of details anyway. right now looking for a quick intro. what does each do, very roughly (i know already what the refresh driver does, roughly, but not how it relates to the pres context/shell)
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2416. # [20:27] <avih> vlad: specifically, i'm looking at the earliest point in time a refresh driver can know it belongs to a presContext which IsChrome()
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2418. # [20:27] <vlad> I suspect right when it's created, no?
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2420. # [20:27] <vlad> there's a 1:1 relationship
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2422. # [20:28] <@bz> avih: I don't think there's a real document....
2423. # [20:29] <@bz> avih: A refresh driver knows when it's created what sort of prescontext it's for
2424. # [20:29] <avih> not when it's created. IsChrome() is false then, even after mRequests.Init();
2425. # [20:29] <vlad> huh. wonder why my windows builds are breaking with a weird error
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2427. # [20:29] <vlad> "failure during conversion to COFF: file invalid or corrupt"
2428. # [20:29] <vlad> of course it tells me nothing about what file
2429. # [20:30] <avih> bz: at the CTOR of nsRefreshDriver, right before it elds, mPresContext-<IsChrome() is false. however, later on (e.g. when it issues vm->ProcessPendingUpdates()), then IsChrome is true. and i know it's the same instance since i print its |this|
2430. # [20:31] <avih> elds->ends
2431. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d8446dbc05a - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 816035 - Add durations to xunit output, r=jgriffin
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2433. # [20:31] <sawrubh> gavin: ping
2434. # [20:31] <ted> vlad: are you using those weird debug info options?
2435. # [20:32] <avih> vlad: as for the intro, 1:1:1 for pres shell -> context -> driver ?
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2438. # [20:32] <@gavin> sawrubh: pong
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2440. # [20:32] <@bz> avih: That's ... interesting
2441. # [20:32] * @bz checks impl
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2444. # [20:32] <mcsmurf> vlad: I remember that COFF error
2445. # [20:32] <gozala> bz: Can I ask you one question about docshells ?
2446. # [20:33] <@bz> gozala: sure
2447. # [20:33] <gozala> I'm trying to understand when are they created
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2449. # [20:33] <@bz> Hmm
2450. # [20:33] <vlad> ted: no, not in this case
2451. # [20:33] <vlad> ted: it's just dying right at the start, in vmwarerecordinghelper.obj
2452. # [20:33] <mcsmurf> vlad: do you have Visual Studio 2010 and 2012 installed?
2453. # [20:33] <gozala> I'm creating two frames one in hidden window
2454. # [20:33] <vlad> the file looks fine
2455. # [20:33] <vlad> mcsmurf: yes
2456. # [20:33] <@bz> I suppose if the refresh driver is created before container is set?
2457. # [20:33] * @bz checks when that happens
2458. # [20:33] <gozala> another in active browser window
2459. # [20:33] <vlad> mcsmurf: I suspected that was the issue, I'm trying a build with 2012 now
2460. # [20:33] <mcsmurf> vlad: that's the problem, you need to update VS2010 to VS2010 SP1
2461. # [20:33] <vlad> (I was using 2010 before)
2462. # [20:33] <vlad> ohhh
2463. # [20:33] <gozala> second one does not has docshell immediately first one does
2464. # [20:33] <mcsmurf> VS2012 installed a new .net framework
2465. # [20:33] <mcsmurf> which broke some VS2010 binary
2466. # [20:34] <@bz> SetContainer
2467. # [20:34] <ted> interesting
2468. # [20:34] <vlad> of course it did
2469. # [20:34] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: quick question ( I am on gaia team ) would changing https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/XPIProvider.jsm#1470 to this.XPIProvider be a sane option?
2470. # [20:34] <vlad> ok
2471. # [20:34] <ted> microsoft breaking their own product
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2473. # [20:34] <ted> classy
2474. # [20:34] <mcsmurf> see Bug 772989 on this ;)
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2476. # [20:34] <vlad> mcsmurf: also possible that no rebooting after installing 2012 might have done this too
2477. # [20:34] <mcsmurf> Comment 18 for the workaround
2478. # [20:34] <vlad> even though it told me :)
2479. # [20:34] <@bz> gozala: odd.
2480. # [20:34] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
2481. # [20:34] <vlad> well, I can wrk around by just building with 2012 looks like
2482. # [20:34] <vlad> so that's good enough
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2484. # [20:34] <@bz> gozala: Should end up with docshell right after you put it in the DOM, if you're not doing remote browsers stuff
2485. # [20:34] <gozala> bz: which one :)
2486. # [20:35] <Mossop> lightsofapollo: For these jsm loading changes?
2487. # [20:35] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811784
2488. # [20:35] <gozala> ok so it's supposed to work then
2489. # [20:35] <@bz> gozala: both should have a docshell
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2491. # [20:35] <gozala> bz: I'll create a reduced test case then and will show then
2492. # [20:35] <@bz> avih: I guess nsPresContext::SetContainer
2493. # [20:35] <@bz> avih: happens after the refresh driver construction in some cases?
2494. # [20:36] * Mossop wonders why b2g is loading the extension manager anyway
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2496. # [20:36] <avih> bz: don't know those yet, but i'd imagine it might.
2497. # [20:36] <fabrice> Mossop: on device or desktop?
2498. # [20:36] <Mossop> Either really
2499. # [20:36] <@bz> avih: Looks like it can. That's slightly sad.
2500. # [20:36] <lightsofapollo> fabrice: Mossop: Only development (httpd)
2501. # [20:36] <@bz> avih: but in any case, once _that_ happens you know whether you're chrome.
2502. # [20:36] <gozala> bz: oh there is one more thing, one in the active browser in appended to a panel element
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2504. # [20:37] <gozala> is that supposed to make diff ?
2505. # [20:37] <fabrice> Mossop: it should not on device, I think I disabled it at some point
2506. # [20:37] <Mossop> lightsofapollo: Is there something specific in that bug I should be looking it, it is long and mostly confusing to me
2507. # [20:37] <avih> bz: thx, will look into it.
2508. # [20:37] <@bz> gozala: no.
2509. # [20:37] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: Short story is the globals are not exported so other files can't find them
2510. # [20:38] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: (in b2g) so the extension loader is busted
2511. # [20:38] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: did http://benoitgirard.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/analyzing-shutdown-performance/ not show up on planet?
2512. # [20:38] <Mossop> lightsofapollo: So every jsm is being changed to support this?
2513. # [20:38] <BenWa> bsmedberg: it should of
2514. # [20:38] * BenWa checks the stats
2515. # [20:38] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: not necessarily
2516. # [20:38] <Mossop> lightsofapollo: Actually, XPIProvider shouldn't be exported anyway
2517. # [20:39] <@bsmedberg> hrm, in my google reader search it doesn't show up
2518. # [20:39] <@bsmedberg> and I don't remember having seen it
2519. # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/740c8dd81b04 - Richard Newman - Bug 820179 - Mach command for packaging. r=gps
2520. # [20:39] <BenWa> bsmedberg: It got the typical ~200 view my post normally get from planet
2521. # [20:39] <@bsmedberg> huh
2522. # [20:40] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: I did a quick look through the code and it seems like it injects it into the scope of https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/XPIProviderUtils.js
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2524. # [20:40] <BenWa> bsmedberg: I'll be expending my studies to other users' profile in Jan 2013 if you're interested
2525. # [20:40] <lightsofapollo> Mossop: maybe the issue is unrelated to the globals there…
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2527. # [20:40] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: I am in a general sort of way, yes
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2529. # [20:41] <BenWa> great
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2531. # [20:41] <Mossop> lightsofapollo: Yes, that file is loaded with the subscript loader
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2533. # [20:42] <Mossop> lightsofapollo: Here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/XPIProvider.jsm#170
2534. # [20:43] <lightsofapollo> khuey: ^ heh having the same conversation in b2g
2535. # [20:43] <lightsofapollo> khuey: Seems like that should work just fine no?
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2541. # [20:45] <lightsofapollo> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1987962
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2543. # [20:46] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: yeah, so changing var XPIProvider = to this.XPIProvider = in the JSM should fix it
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2545. # [20:46] <@khuey> I think
2546. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2323a19a28cf - EKR - Bug 811183: Recursive GC In PeerConnection shutdown (uplift to Beta) r=jesup a=bajaj
2547. # [20:46] <lightsofapollo> khuey: really? It is explicitly set as var Foo = X; in that same file? It should be global in the same file ?
2548. # [20:46] <lightsofapollo> ( I will test it out in any case but it seems like it should work in theory)
2549. # [20:46] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: the problem is that before XPIProvider.jsm got its own global, so the subscript runs at global scope and sees the var Foo = thing
2550. # [20:47] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: now XPIProvider.jsm gets executed as a function applied to a given object
2551. # [20:47] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: and the subscript gets executed a sa function applied to the same object
2552. # [20:47] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: so assignments like 'this.whatever =' work
2553. # [20:47] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: but 'var whatever' doesn't create a property on the this object unless we're running at global scope
2554. # [20:48] * Ms2ger` remains skeptical
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2557. # [20:48] <@khuey> Ms2ger`: of?
2558. # [20:48] <Mossop> khuey: We give the subscript loader the scope to execute in though
2559. # [20:48] <Ms2ger`> khuey, your stuff
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2561. # [20:49] <@khuey> Mossop: oh, hmm
2562. # [20:49] <@khuey> Ms2ger`: me too
2563. # [20:49] <gozala> bz: so this code reproduces an issues I'm running into
2564. # [20:49] <gozala> https://gist.github.com/e5f56040b9e26483f1b0
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2566. # [20:49] <lightsofapollo> khuey: seems like the only way this could happen is that the context of the file changes by https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/XPIProvider.jsm#174
2567. # [20:49] <gozala> bz: it also looks like style.MozBinding is the line that causes issues
2568. # [20:49] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
2569. # [20:50] <@khuey> oh, fun
2570. # [20:50] <@khuey> this is fantastic :-P
2571. # [20:50] <@khuey> Mossop: who wrote this stuff? :-P
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2573. # [20:50] <Mossop> khuey: Splitting stuff out into XPIProviderUtils.js? Unfocused. For perf and memory wins
2574. # [20:50] <Mossop> You know, for mobile :p
2575. # [20:51] <@khuey> so, here's the problem
2576. # [20:51] <@khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/XPIProviderUtils.js#82
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2578. # [20:51] <@khuey> if that script runs at global scope, that doesn't do anything
2579. # [20:51] <@khuey> because there's already a property on the global named XPIProvider
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2581. # [20:51] <lightsofapollo> khuey: right…
2582. # [20:51] <@khuey> hmm
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2584. # [20:51] * @khuey thinks a bit more
2585. # [20:52] <@bz> gozala: oh, you're looking for the docshell via XBL, not actually checking whether there's really a docshell
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2590. # [20:52] <Mossop> khuey: Does removing that line and changing the loading code to this help? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/1987978
2591. # [20:52] <@bz> gozala: in that case, the behavior makes perfect sense; welcome to XBL!
2592. # [20:53] * Mossop isn't sure why that var is declared in XPIProviderUtils.js anyway
2593. # [20:53] <lightsofapollo> yeah...
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2595. # [20:53] <@bz> gozala: your problem is that the MozBinding load of data: URIs is async
2596. # [20:53] <@bz> gozala: and the iframe binding is not attached until the ancestor's binding is
2597. # [20:54] <@khuey> Mossop: I would expect it to
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2599. # [20:54] <lightsofapollo> battery died back in a few...
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2601. # [20:54] <Mossop> khuey: Let's do that then
2602. # [20:54] <gozala> bz: so I assume that means ether I don't use moz bindings or listen to when it's attached ?
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2605. # [20:55] <@bz> gozala: For this setup, yes
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2607. # [20:55] <@bz> gozala: since you control the binding, you could use its constructor to detect that
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2609. # [20:55] <gozala> bz: or is there any way to query interface I can query frame with to get a docshell for it ?
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2615. # [20:58] <sawrubh> graememcc: nice article :)
2616. # [20:58] <@ehsan> jdm: you seem to have broken some tests...
2617. # [20:59] <@ehsan> backing you out...
2618. # [20:59] <jdm> yay
2619. # [20:59] <@ehsan> sorry!
2620. # [20:59] <@ehsan> jdm: looks like you only broke out of process stuff though :)
2621. # [20:59] <jdm> I should hope so, given the changes
2622. # [21:00] <@ehsan> yeah!
2623. # [21:00] <Ms2ger`> NeilAway, when can BeginReading() return null?
2624. # [21:00] <@ehsan> Ms2ger`: I think it can
2625. # [21:01] <jwir3> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Overview says that "text-shadows are part of visual overflow, but not scrollable overflow." Does this mean that if we have text shadows that are offset such that they would overflow beyond the end of a page/containing viewport, we don't allow scrolling to view the text shadow?
2626. # [21:01] <Ms2ger`> ehsan, when?
2627. # [21:01] <@ehsan> with an empty string?
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2630. # [21:01] <Ms2ger`> Not an empty nsString
2631. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdc37128bd0d - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 34c9ccee8058 (bug 782542) for mochitest failures
2632. # [21:01] <@ehsan> nsString is not the only string type out there
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2635. # [21:02] <mcsmurf> jwir3: I'm not sure if this is related, but see Bug 446693 on this
2636. # [21:02] <@bsmedberg> jwir3: probably
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2639. # [21:02] <mcsmurf> (found some comment on a workaround because of this a while ago)
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2641. # [21:03] <Ms2ger`> ehsan, gimme one :)
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2644. # [21:03] <jwir3> I'm basically trying to wrap my head around the difference between the two. The textual explanation on that page doesn't help. ;)
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2646. # [21:03] <biesi> ehsan, I don't think it can
2647. # [21:03] <biesi> .get() can in some cases
2648. # [21:03] <biesi> but not BeginReading
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2650. # [21:04] <@ehsan> I am not 100% sure really
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2652. # [21:04] <biesi> also, these things depend on your _declared_ type
2653. # [21:04] <@ehsan> I have a vague memory on debugging a crash which was happening because BeginReading was returning null
2654. # [21:04] <@ehsan> but that's all I remember
2655. # [21:04] <@ehsan> sorry
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2671. # [21:14] <gozala> bz: Do you mean applying styles manually in the xbl constructor ?
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2676. # [21:16] <@bz> gozala: I mean that .docShell should work if you do it async after he xbl ctor fires
2677. # [21:16] <gozala> bz: I got it, thanks
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2680. # [21:17] <gozala> bz: what about setting MozBinding after I got reference to a docshell
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2682. # [21:17] <gozala> will that misbehave then ?
2683. # [21:18] <@bz> That should be fine as well, I think
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2689. # [21:23] <edmorley> ehsan: are you sure the backout of jdm will fix the xpcshell orange
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2691. # [21:23] <edmorley> seems to not start until the next push, unless I'm mis-reading whilst making dinner :-)
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2693. # [21:23] <jdm> edmorley: I don't think the xpcshell failures are related to me
2694. # [21:23] <@ehsan> edmorley: you're right
2695. # [21:23] <@ehsan> I'm dumb
2696. # [21:24] * mcote|biab is now known as mcote
2697. # [21:24] <@ehsan> edmorley: do you wanna backout gps?
2698. # [21:24] <edmorley> sure
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2700. # [21:24] <lightsofapollo> khuey: sorry, any revelations while I was gone?
2701. # [21:24] <@ehsan> ty
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2704. # [21:25] <lightsofapollo> khuey: removing that var seems to do it
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2708. # [21:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/469076f776d6 - Ed Morley - Backout fac650c31656 & 907a846d368f (bug 819033) for xpcshell failures
2709. # [21:27] <graememcc> sawrubh: thanks :)
2710. # [21:28] <jlebar> joe: drc is libjpeg-turbo, not libpng. :)
2711. # [21:28] <joe> jlebar: i misread james zhang as having mentioned both libpng and libjpeg
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2713. # [21:30] <@smaug> jcranmer: why fast is lockless queue ?
2714. # [21:30] <joe> jlebar: and as you said that, I'd literally just pushed save changes on my reply saying "ignore this drc"
2715. # [21:30] <jcranmer> ?
2716. # [21:30] <@smaug> jcranmer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820257#c8
2717. # [21:30] <jlebar> joe: No good deed...
2718. # [21:30] <@smaug> jcranmer: adding something to such queue, how fast is it
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2720. # [21:30] <joe> jlebar: speaking of which, paint my fence
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2723. # [21:31] <jlebar> joe: This became karate kid much more quickly than I was expecting.
2724. # [21:31] <jcranmer> smaug: if there's now contention, it's a cas
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2729. # [21:32] <@khuey> lightsofapollo: cool
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2732. # [21:34] <jcranmer> smaug: the basic implementation of lockless queue is a linked-list, where you cas yourself onto the tail
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2734. # [21:35] <jcranmer> [the hard part is that a failed cas means you have to find the tail again]
2735. # [21:36] <@smaug> though, I don't want to move to stop-the-world-(including-non-main-threads) CC
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2737. # [21:36] <jcranmer> smaug: fast-path is two cas's (although you don't care if you fail the second]
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2739. # [21:36] <jcranmer> which is two atomic operations, so it's roughly the same speed as acquiring/releasing a lock without contention
2740. # [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cc90ffcd6b6 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 806099 - Use the 'best' active scrolled root when flattening layers, even if it isn't an ancestor of all display items. r=roc
2741. # [21:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b608a82bda90 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 805507 - Only invalidate tables when the visual overflow changes. r=roc
2742. # [21:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d843a43d7fad - Matt Woodrow - Bug 820131 - Compute a more accurate bounds for nsDisplayBoxShadowOuter. r=roc
2743. # [21:37] <jcranmer> smaug: if adding to the queue is the only issue, then there are easy ways around it
2744. # [21:37] <jcranmer> but if CC is stop-the-world, it's probably not the best solution
2745. # [21:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14d25f6b938e - Benoit Girard - Bug 809317 - Add stackwalking to SAMPLER_PRINT_LOCATION on mac. r=ehsan
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2749. # [21:39] <@smaug> jcranmer: adding to queue isn't the problem
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2751. # [21:39] <@smaug> jcranmer: problem would be to make CC running slower
2752. # [21:39] * jcranmer looks
2753. # [21:39] <jcranmer> oh, I missed that it wasn't the only problem
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2755. # [21:39] <jcranmer> I saw mccr8's reply and missed the "That, and" at the beginning
2756. # [21:39] <@smaug> since traversing even more objects at once is ofc slower
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2759. # [21:40] <jcranmer> <troll>move to a non-stop-the-world collector then</troll>
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2764. # [21:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2f64f2e1d88 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 789975 - gather telemetry on how long memory reporters take during telemetry; r=vdjeric
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2767. # [21:43] <@smaug> jcranmer: I haven't found any good such collectors for our use
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2775. # [21:46] <jcranmer> well, the only non-stop-the-world that I know is a compacting one
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2780. # [21:49] <seth> when i work late i always find some ridiculous bugs in the code i wrote the next day
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2782. # [21:50] <seth> things like writing a constructor and forgetting to initialize the fields of the object =)
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2784. # [21:51] <sawrubh> Callek: ping
2785. # [21:51] <sheppy> You know you're having issues when you get an unresponsive script alert when you click the "Restart to install" button in the about box in Firefox.
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2787. # [21:52] <sawrubh> issues with what ?
2788. # [21:52] <Callek> sawrubh: pong?
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2791. # [21:53] * jcranmer goes on a paper hunt for fully concurrent cycle collectrs
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2794. # [21:56] <jcranmer> smaug: I see what you mean
2795. # [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89ad76a08a74 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 820366 - UNSUFFICIENT_STORAGE error is not triggered correctly at restart; r=fabrice
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2798. # [21:56] <jcranmer> smaug: all the papers basically propose much more expensive penalties for addref
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2804. # [22:00] <@smaug> jcranmer: and addref and release are in the super hot path...
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2807. # [22:00] <@smaug> but we're not too slow atm
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2809. # [22:00] <@smaug> and plans are getting addref/release faster
2810. # [22:00] <jcranmer> considering that most of the gc research focuses on managed runtimes
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2813. # [22:01] <jcranmer> where a lot of the slowness of addref/release can be handled with "runtime optimizes away!"
2814. # [22:01] <@smaug> there is relatively little cc research
2815. # [22:01] <jcranmer> I see basically one group doing cycle-collection
2816. # [22:01] <mccr8> yes, there are just one or two people who have published papers on it.
2817. # [22:01] <jcranmer> well, there was a second group but their results looked even worse from reading that paper
2818. # [22:01] <@smaug> bacon & et al, some people in Israel IIRC, and someone in Japan
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2820. # [22:02] <jcranmer> smaug: Korea, not Japan
2821. # [22:02] <@smaug> mmm, could be
2822. # [22:02] <jcranmer> I just read that paper
2823. # [22:02] <jcranmer> yay for colleges with acm subscriptions
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2826. # [22:04] <@roc> so
2827. # [22:04] <@roc> when reading research papers on reference counting
2828. # [22:04] <@roc> you have to keep in mind that they pretty much always deal with multithreaded shared heaps
2829. # [22:04] <@roc> where addref and release require atomic increment/decrement
2830. # [22:04] <@roc> which is crazy expensive
2831. # [22:05] <@roc> whereas for us, most objects do not require atomic ops
2832. # [22:05] <@smaug> yup
2833. # [22:05] * @khuey mumbles something about java
2834. # [22:05] <@roc> so research on refcounting systems are all about avoiding addrefs and releases because they're so expensive
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2836. # [22:05] <jcranmer> if the cycle collector runs on a separate thread, we need atomic inc/decs
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2838. # [22:05] <mccr8> roc: the concurrent cycle collection papers I'm familiar with use per-thread buffers of addref/release operations, rather than locking on the actual addref/release which are actually done only by the CC.
2839. # [22:06] <@roc> and their results basically don't apply to what we do. Their techniques might be useful, but we'd have to do our own performance studies.
2840. # [22:06] <mccr8> ah, I see.
2841. # [22:06] <@roc> I had a discussion about this with the GC researchers at ISMM this year :-)
2842. # [22:07] <mccr8> I don't think we can actually use their techniques anyways, because they rely on knowing what is doing the addref/release, let alone performance concerns.
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2844. # [22:07] <@roc> that too
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2846. # [22:08] <jcranmer> GC in C/C++ is really different from <insert managed runtime here>
2847. # [22:08] <mccr8> on the other hand, we've been able to make heavy use of application-specific information about liveness to reduce the size of the CC graph, which is something published papers on the subject don't really talk about.
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2849. # [22:08] <@roc> Erez Petrank claimed that he has done research related to that
2850. # [22:09] <@smaug> I haven't seen anything like forgetSkippable in the CC papers
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2852. # [22:09] <@smaug> well, some tiny parts of it was mentioned somewhere
2853. # [22:09] <@smaug> basically canSkipInCC, IIRC
2854. # [22:10] <@roc> you might want to open a discussion with him by email to discuss this
2855. # [22:10] * cmcavoy-offline is now known as cmcavoy
2856. # [22:10] * wlach|laptop is now known as wlach
2857. # [22:10] * Callek mentally thinks "can Skip in Comm Central" and wondered why -- until he remembered that smaug is likely talking about Cycle Collection
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2859. # [22:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1545ae660f81 - Ed Morley - Backout 14d25f6b938e (bug 809317) for build failures on a CLOSED TREE
2860. # [22:11] <@roc> mccr8: in fact, you should go to ISMM next year
2861. # [22:11] <jcranmer> Callek: you must not have read the last half-hour of backscroll
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2863. # [22:11] <@bz> What we need is a CanSkipCC
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2866. # [22:11] <@roc> you could even submit a paper
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2868. # [22:11] <mccr8> if I liked going to conferences I might still be an academic. ;) but yes, we should write something up...
2869. # [22:12] <jesup> dolske: ping
2870. # [22:12] <Callek> jcranmer: I tend to skim the recent 10 min every once and a while -- since this channel is in-general far more "noisy" than I can reasonably keep up with, without wasting all my time :-)
2871. # [22:12] <@smaug> bz: hah
2872. # [22:12] <@roc> really, you don't like going to conferences?
2873. # [22:12] <@roc> I can understand lots of reasons for not being an academic, but conferences are great :-)
2874. # [22:12] <jcranmer> I like conferences, I just don't like travelling to them
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2876. # [22:12] <mccr8> I don't like people.
2877. # [22:13] <@roc> ah
2878. # [22:13] <@roc> but these aren't people, they're nerds like us :-)
2879. # [22:13] <mccr8> ha
2880. # [22:13] <jhammel> mccr8++
2881. # [22:13] <mccr8> hmm yeah ISMM 13 is just up in Seattle, and Petrank is the chair.
2882. # [22:14] <jhammel> Petraeus?
2883. # [22:15] <@roc> write a paper describing all our CC optimizations. If it gets accepted, great. If it gets rejected due to uncited previous work, then you'll have the citations you're looking for :-)
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2885. # [22:16] <jesup> IETF is fun if you're a networking nerd (and want to meet Jacobson ("saved the internet") or Gettys aka mr bufferbloat)
2886. # [22:16] <@roc> it's also fun if you like hatching plots, apparently
2887. # [22:16] <@khuey> roc++
2888. # [22:17] <jesup> roc: ;-) we wouldn't do that, would we?
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2890. # [22:17] <@roc> No. No. Definitely not.
2891. # [22:17] <sawrubh> Callek: thanks
2892. # [22:17] <jesup> Ain't no politics here! Move along, nothing to see
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2896. # [22:19] <Waldo> fnord
2897. # [22:19] <jhammel> Waldo: i saw that!
2898. # [22:19] * Waldo hides
2899. # [22:19] <jhammel> #Waldo {display: none; }
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2901. # [22:20] <JonathanS> I found Waldo. :)
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2903. # [22:20] <Waldo> style="display: block ! important;"
2904. # [22:21] * Waldo doesn't think anything can override style= important, although he wouldn't put money on it
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2906. # [22:21] * dhylands|plow-driveway is now known as dhylands
2907. # [22:21] * jhammel doesn't think Waldo should be using inline styles :P
2908. # [22:21] * coop|afk is now known as coop
2909. # [22:21] * Waldo doesn't think jhammel should be harshing his style in the first place :-P
2910. # [22:21] <@bz> waldo: user !important and UA !important
2911. # [22:21] <sawrubh> Waldo: we could always go against the spec and implement something to override it
2912. # [22:21] <JonathanS> Waldo { content: "I found Waldo"; }
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2914. # [22:22] <@bz> waldo: now for overriding UA !important, your options are slim
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2917. # [22:22] * Waldo is so not letting jhammel touch his user stylesheet, and people here are not going to let him touch ua.css
2918. # [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/241296b53553 - James Lal - Bug 816957: Fix some issues in the extensions manager when sharing compartments. r=khuey
2919. # [22:22] <@bz> waldo: I _think_ transitions might or something....
2920. # [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1af75383fd2e - Kyle Huey - Bug 811615: Enable chrome code to create a new File object by wrapping an existing Blob and provide a custom name/type. r=sicking a=basecamp-blocking
2921. # [22:22] <mbrubeck> as MattN discovered yesterday
2922. # [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/149c069986dc - Gene Lian - Bug 811615 - Miss file name when passing file by Web Activity (part 2, ObjectWrapper.jsm). r=fabrice, a=blocking-basecamp
2923. # [22:22] <@bz> mbrubeck: ?
2924. # [22:23] <mbrubeck> bz: (5:27:57 PM) <MattN> xul.css sets "height: 0 !important" but I can't seem to override that in skin/browser.css
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2926. # [22:24] <mbrubeck> which led me to wonder why http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-cascade/#computing makes no mention of UA !important styles
2927. # [22:24] <@bz> mbrubeck: heh
2928. # [22:24] <@bz> mbrubeck: because there is no such concept in the spec ... yet
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2930. # [22:25] <mbrubeck> heh, looks like his fix was to change xul.css - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=690962&action=diff#a/toolkit/content/xul.css_sec1
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2933. # [22:25] <@bz> mbrubeck: actually, the current draft at http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-cascade/#important-rules does cover this
2934. # [22:25] <MattN> mbrubeck: not sure if that will fly yet though. I may have to add yet another attribute to the selector to avoid the important in that one case
2935. # [22:25] <@bz> mbrubeck: note the date on the thing you linked to
2936. # [22:25] * mjschranz_away is now known as mjschranz
2937. # [22:25] <@bz> mbrubeck: TR strikes again!
2938. # [22:26] <@khuey> TR is for trash!
2939. # [22:26] <mbrubeck> :O
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2943. # [22:27] * @bz wonders whether it's possible to update an already published TR with a link to the ED at least...
2944. # [22:28] <mbrubeck> or whether it's possible to publish a WD more than once a decade? :7
2945. # [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2e8dc13c7b5c - Steve Fink - Bug 811050 - Intialize stolen ArrayBuffer data. r=billm a=lsblakk
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2947. # [22:28] <@bz> mbrubeck: heh
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2949. # [22:29] <@bz> mbrubeck: work only picked up on cascade again a few months ago.
2950. # [22:29] <mbrubeck> speaking of which... good news, everybody: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-pointerevents-20121211/
2951. # [22:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2db54808d08e - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 814921; don't flush styles if there are no active animations. r=dholbert
2952. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebc71a3e489b - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 797520; improve OMTA logging. r=cjones
2953. # [22:29] <@bz> mbrubeck: nice!
2954. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd737056538a - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 780692; throttle OMTA (rollup patch). r=dbaron,bz
2955. # [22:29] <jesup> !seen dolske
2956. # [22:29] <firebot> dolske was last seen 16 hours, 1 minute and 18 seconds ago, saying 'njn: what kind of log?' in #developers.
2957. # [22:29] <mbrubeck> (my status as "editor" on that is still aspirational, since I've yet to actually *edit* anything...)
2958. # [22:29] <@bz> mbrubeck: We're just planning to implement this part in WebIDL, right? ;)
2959. # [22:30] <@bz> mbrubeck: but you plan to, right?
2960. # [22:30] <@bz> mbrubeck: If so, that puts you ahead of some editors!
2961. # [22:30] <mbrubeck> yes, and yes ;)
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2964. # [22:30] <@bz> Sweet
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2967. # [22:30] <@bz> navigator is not webidl yet
2968. # [22:30] <@bz> we need to fix that....
2969. # [22:31] <gozala> bz: Sorry to bug you yet again but I would really love your opinion on this
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2971. # [22:31] <@khuey> fix all the things
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2973. # [22:31] <@bz> khuey: review all my patches! ;)
2974. # [22:31] <gozala> in SDK we use panels and frames (iframe / window) with in it to display content
2975. # [22:32] <gozala> we also have hidden iframe to swap frame loaders between them such
2976. # [22:32] <gozala> that state of the panel content will be persistent regardless of window it will be displayed on
2977. # [22:33] <gozala> the problem I'm running into is that if I use browser element in the hidden window
2978. # [22:33] <gozala> with content type
2979. # [22:34] <gozala> inner-window-destroyed notification is not dispatched
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2982. # [22:34] <gozala> it seems to be dispatched on the iframe with a same attributes though
2983. # [22:34] <gozala> also with browser if type is set to content-targetable
2984. # [22:34] <@bz> hold on
2985. # [22:35] <@bz> ok, go on
2986. # [22:35] <@bz> so you have type="content"
2987. # [22:35] <gozala> bz: yes type="content" in browser element
2988. # [22:35] <jesup> Anyone have a pointer for how to programatically key off the NSPR log level set for my module? I imagine there's an example in the tree somewhere...
2989. # [22:35] <gozala> does not triggers inner-window-destroy notifications
2990. # [22:35] <gozala> but iframe with type="content" does
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2993. # [22:35] <gozala> also browser with type="content-targetable" does too
2994. # [22:36] <@bz> ok
2995. # [22:36] <@bz> trigger it at what point?
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2998. # [22:36] <gozala> bz: oh right when diff content is loaded in that frame
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3000. # [22:36] <@bz> Sounds like the <iframe> is reusing the inner window
3001. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5e98c103675e - Dão Gottwald - Bug 815961 - After dragging & dropping a tab the tabstrip scrolls to center the tab. r=felipe a=bbajaj
3002. # [22:36] <gozala> for example if js in the frame sets window.location to something else
3003. # [22:36] <@bz> And the <browser> is not
3004. # [22:36] <@bz> Just to check...
3005. # [22:36] <@bz> how do you create the iframe?
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3007. # [22:37] <gozala> ok so here is a full snippet
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3010. # [22:37] <mjrosenb> ehsan: ping?
3011. # [22:37] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: hello
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3014. # [22:39] <mjrosenb> ehsan: question about 805299-- it is marked as checkin needed for beta and aurora; does this mean that a sheriff is going to be landing it there for me?
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3016. # [22:39] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: yeah probably
3017. # [22:39] <gozala> bz: https://gist.github.com/4262442
3018. # [22:39] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: you should ask them ;)
3019. # [22:40] <mjrosenb> ehsan: aren't you a sheriff?
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3021. # [22:40] <@ehsan> nope!
3022. # [22:40] <mjrosenb> ehsan: if not, my apologies, and could you point me at one?
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3024. # [22:40] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: edmorley is out perma-sheriff :)
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3028. # [22:41] <mjrosenb> edmorley: ping?
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3030. # [22:42] <mjrosenb> ehsan: is an inbound sheriff different from a sheriff?
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3032. # [22:42] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: not really
3033. # [22:42] <mjrosenb> ehsan: because you are listed on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Inbound_Sheriff_Duty
3034. # [22:42] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: oh!
3035. # [22:42] <@ehsan> heh, time to remove myself from that list :)
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3037. # [22:42] <edmorley> mjrosenb: the checkin-neededs kind of fall in an in unowned area - RyanVM has been backporting some things to branches in his own time
3038. # [22:43] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: thanks for pointing that out. I should no longer be listed there
3039. # [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2811701794b - Fabrice Desré - Bug 820160 - b2g desktop builds sometimes show black screen [r=gwagner]
3040. # [22:43] <mjrosenb> ehsan: it is why i've been going to you for sheriff-like things :-p
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3042. # [22:44] <@bz> gozala: which OS is this on?
3043. # [22:44] <@bz> gozala: as I recall, the hidden window has different behavior on different OSes....
3044. # [22:44] <gozala> I'm on OSX
3045. # [22:44] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: I see! I think I put my name on there more than a year ago ;)
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3047. # [22:44] <mjrosenb> edmorley: ok, so I should just check it in myself since we want it in the beta?
3048. # [22:44] <edmorley> mjrosenb: I try to get to them occasionally, but haven't got the cycles at the moment to be honest, hopefully this will change once we have more than just me employed as sheriff
3049. # [22:44] <@bz> OK
3050. # [22:44] <edmorley> mjrosenb: yeah
3051. # [22:44] <@bz> so on OSX this should be an actual chrome thing....
3052. # [22:45] <gozala> although I was expecting it to work everywhere :(
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3054. # [22:45] <gozala> bz: my question is what is the right way to do it
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3056. # [22:45] <@bz> gozala: I'm still not clear on what "it" is
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3059. # [22:46] <@bz> gozala: you want to bounce a docshell between different DOM windows, including when no windows have it?
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3061. # [22:46] <@bz> gozala: I'm not sure there is a "right" way to do such a thing at the moment....
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3063. # [22:46] <gozala> so I have two windows
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3065. # [22:46] <gozala> on is always hidden and other is sometimes shown
3066. # [22:46] <gozala> once it's shown I want to swap loaders
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3068. # [22:47] <gozala> once it's being hidden I want to swap back
3069. # [22:47] <edmorley> mjrosenb: it was also promised that the B2G groups would find someone to own backporting of basecamp-blockers etc after it was agreed by my manager that it wasn't reasonable to dump it on our (primarily volunteer) sheriffs, but nothing has materialised as far as I know
3070. # [22:47] <@bz> gozala: right.
3071. # [22:47] <gozala> in fact I only do that to avoid window destruction
3072. # [22:47] <@bz> But your "always hidden" one is the hiddenWindow.....
3073. # [22:47] <@bz> OK
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3075. # [22:48] <gozala> yeah always hidden one is an iframe / browser in the hidden window
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3077. # [22:48] <gozala> bz: I can move this to bugzilla if you prefer that
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3079. # [22:49] <@bz> gimme a sec
3080. # [22:49] <@bz> So offhand, the main difference between browser and iframe is that one of them will run script of its own.
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3083. # [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/90d12ab3ccac - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 816842. Clean up jsval return values in quickstubs a bit. r=bholley, a=bajaj
3084. # [22:49] <@bz> So there's a good chance that the browser case ends up creating a temporary about:blank
3085. # [22:49] <@bz> and the iframe case does not
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3087. # [22:50] <@bz> What happens if you look at the .contentWindow of the iframe right after you get its .docShell ?
3088. # [22:51] <nemo> so. I enabled nglayout paint flashing to try and see if microsoft.com still had a certain issue w/ its slideshow
3089. # [22:51] <gozala> bz: you mean here ? https://gist.github.com/4262442#file-iframe-js-L19
3090. # [22:51] <nemo> and. is weird. my entire browser now pulses rhythmically. like. once per second
3091. # [22:51] <@bz> gozala: yep
3092. # [22:51] <@bz> gozala: just put "frame.contentWindow;" right after that line.
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3094. # [22:51] <nemo> with tab area pulsing at a different rate that seems a bit more frequent
3095. # [22:52] <@bz> gozala: does that make you see the destroyed notification?
3096. # [22:52] <nemo> is making it kinda hard to tell what paints if any are related to slideshow
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3100. # [22:55] <gozala> bz: https://gist.github.com/4262598
3101. # [22:55] <gozala> that's updated snippet with output I see
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3104. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/edddd90c709b - Bill Gianopoulos - Bug 814716 - Limit MaxCubeMapTextureSize for Nouveau to 2K - r=jgilbert
3105. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5ce0405e7b7 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 814716 - correct the way that we tweak max sizes - r=jgilbert
3106. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23eb16f8bf3b - Benoit Jacob - Bug 805814 - import ANGLE r1317 (only that revision) - r=jgilbert
3107. # [22:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e67e86f81d6 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 805814 - turn on packing restrictions in WebGL shaders - r=jgilbert
3108. # [22:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d394324e01c - Benoit Jacob - Bug 814407 - reattach textures when a texture image is replaced - r=jgilbert
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3112. # [22:56] <@bz> gozala: I'm not following
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3115. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/390fb4d21787 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 782368; undo patch from 780868. r=mattwoodrow
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3117. # [22:57] <@bz> gozala: so hold on
3118. # [22:57] <@bz> gozala: You're creating the frame
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3120. # [22:57] <@bz> gozala: then waiting until the about:blank loads?
3121. # [22:57] <gozala> well in fact I was waiting until my src loads
3122. # [22:58] <@bz> ah, indeed.
3123. # [22:58] <@bz> OK.
3124. # [22:58] <gozala> although in this case I guess it's different
3125. # [22:58] <@bz> But wait
3126. # [22:58] <@bz> you're getting two "observe destruction" in the log, right?
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3129. # [22:58] <gozala> yeah so moving observer up worked
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3132. # [22:58] <@bz> er...
3133. # [22:58] <@bz> What output do you expect?
3134. # [22:58] <gozala> before I was setting after setting src
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3136. # [22:58] <@bz> It looks like you're getting two load events
3137. # [22:58] <@bz> right?
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3139. # [22:59] <gozala> bz: oh wait I got confused
3140. # [22:59] <@bz> Also, is your log newest on top or oldest on top?
3141. # [22:59] <gozala> it works with iframe and type content as here
3142. # [22:59] <@bz> ok...
3143. # [22:59] <gozala> it does not when it's browser
3144. # [22:59] <nemo> woah. how odd. the entire browser pulsing thing is only on certain tabs
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3147. # [22:59] <@bz> OK
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3149. # [22:59] <@bz> So let's try to step through this again.
3150. # [22:59] <nemo> now all of a sudden microsoft.com is not doing it. about:config is doing it. new tab is not
3151. # [22:59] <@bz> You create the iframe.
3152. # [22:59] <nemo> amo is doing it
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3155. # [22:59] <@bz> You add a load listener.
3156. # [23:00] <@bz> After inserting in the DOM.
3157. # [23:00] <@bz> You set the src.
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3159. # [23:00] <@bz> Is your output newest first, or oldest first?
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3161. # [23:00] <@bz> It looks to me like newest first
3162. # [23:00] <nemo> oh. I see. microsoft.com only does it if I'm not hovering over the slideshow area
3163. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ce1a8ae8ed6 - Jorge Luis Mendez - Bug 820117 - Remove XQuartz from OS X prerequisites; r=gps
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3166. # [23:01] <@bz> But I'd like you to confirm or deny before I draw conclusions.
3167. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9dffd2d825c9 - Rob Wood - Bug 811580 - Develop WebAPI test for MobileConnection.data, update manifest; r=jgriffin
3168. # [23:02] <gozala> bz: not sure I understand question
3169. # [23:02] <gozala> Also I have made version that does not works
3170. # [23:02] <gozala> https://gist.github.com/4262598
3171. # [23:03] <gozala> only diff is that I use browser tag instead of iframe tag
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3175. # [23:04] <@bz> gozala: My question is this. Your "output.txt"
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3178. # [23:04] <@bz> gozala: does it have newer things on top, or on bottom, in terms of chronological ordering of your log?
3179. # [23:04] <gozala> no oldest first
3180. # [23:04] <@bz> OK
3181. # [23:05] <@bz> So you got "observe destruction of: about:blank"
3182. # [23:05] <@bz> then the unload/observe 21
3183. # [23:05] <@bz> then "observe destruction of: data:text/html"
3184. # [23:05] <@bz> Correct?
3185. # [23:05] <gozala> bz: yeah but that about:blank is set here
3186. # [23:05] <@bz> Set there?
3187. # [23:05] <gozala> https://gist.github.com/4262598#file-iframe-js-L37
3188. # [23:06] <gozala> in the content js itself
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3190. # [23:06] <gozala> I can set to something else to make it more clear
3191. # [23:06] <@bz> Oh
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3194. # [23:06] <@bz> hold on
3195. # [23:06] <@bz> So actually you got the onload for the data:
3196. # [23:06] <@bz> then the onload for about:blank?
3197. # [23:06] <gozala> well I got load but not an unload
3198. # [23:07] <@bz> onload == load
3199. # [23:07] <@bz> If I were talking about "unload", I'd say "unload". ;)
3200. # [23:07] <gozala> oh yea sorry misread
3201. # [23:07] <@bz> ok
3202. # [23:07] <@bz> So yeah, this all looks correct.
3203. # [23:07] <@bz> You load the data: URI
3204. # [23:07] <@bz> then you load an about:blank.
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3206. # [23:07] <@bz> The data: URI is unloaded.
3207. # [23:07] <@bz> But that has only weak correlation with whether its inner window is destroyed
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3209. # [23:08] <@bz> in particular, if you have a session history (which <browser> does by default and <iframe> does not) then it'll likely go into bfcache
3210. # [23:08] <nemo> yeesh. http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase228.xhtml is horrendously inefficient w/ paint flashing enabled
3211. # [23:08] <@bz> instead of being destroyed.
3212. # [23:08] <nemo> is repainting continuously. even when the svg isn't actually doing any SMIL animation
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3215. # [23:08] <@bz> Do you want your browser to have a session history?
3216. # [23:08] <nemo> I wonder if that's one reason that animated SVG backgrounds are so horribly inefficient
3217. # [23:09] <gozala> I'm afraid I don't have answer for that yet
3218. # [23:09] <@bz> nemo: file bugs, please
3219. # [23:09] <@bz> gozala: ok
3220. # [23:09] <gozala> but it's finally making sense :)
3221. # [23:09] <@bz> gozala: well, if you don't, you can turn it off.
3222. # [23:09] <nemo> bz: I seem to recall having filed a bug on that url sucking up a ton of CPU, but since I can't remember for sure. new bug :D
3223. # [23:09] <@bz> gozala: but if you do, then you have to deal with this... (or turn off bfcache, possibly)
3224. # [23:09] <@bz> gozala: Sorry this took so long; it really wasn't clear what the setup was....
3225. # [23:10] <gozala> bz: so if I want have a session history
3226. # [23:10] <@khuey> bugzilla is sooooooo sloooowwwwwwww today
3227. # [23:10] <gozala> what would be a way to handle unloads
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3229. # [23:10] <KWierso|Surface> khuey++
3230. # [23:11] <nemo> bz: hm. SVG or CSS component?
3231. # [23:11] <gozala> bz: All I really want to know when document is being unloaded to do some cleanup
3232. # [23:11] <jhammel> khuey: i believe they are moving the server or something something
3233. # [23:11] <@bz> nemo: svg, cc dholbert
3234. # [23:11] <nemo> bz: behaviour when accessing the svg directly is pretty reasonableish
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3236. # [23:11] <nemo> ok
3237. # [23:11] <dholbert> allo?
3238. # [23:11] <@bz> dholbert: svg-as-image backgrounds over-invalidating when SMIL is involved
3239. # [23:11] <@bz> dholbert: best I can tell from verbal testcase description.
3240. # [23:11] <dholbert> gotcha
3241. # [23:11] <gozala> bz: and my second question is why does browser with type="content-targetable" works ?
3242. # [23:11] <nemo> dholbert: compare http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase228.xhtml and http://m8y.org/tmp/leaves.svg with nglayout.debug.paint_flashing;true
3243. # [23:11] <dholbert> bz / nemo, thanks
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3245. # [23:11] <@bz> dholbert: seemed like your sort of thing. ;)
3246. # [23:12] <dholbert> :D
3247. # [23:12] <nemo> dholbert: making bug nao
3248. # [23:12] <dholbert> ty
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3250. # [23:12] <nemo> dholbert: maybe this is why all my animated SVG backgrounds have sucked so hard
3251. # [23:12] <@bz> gozala: No idea why content-targetable should work
3252. # [23:12] <@bz> gozala: at first glance
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3254. # [23:12] <@bz> gozala: as far as unloads... If you don't care about bfcache, you could just observe the unload event on the window inside, right?
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3256. # [23:13] <gozala> sure but if I do
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3261. # [23:14] <dholbert> nemo, ouch. yeah, that's nasty
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3264. # [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/513ec84b5c88 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=731974, requestAnimationFrame generates too short/long frames (incl. bug 799242); r=bz,smaug,roc,ehsan
3265. # [23:15] <@ehsan> vlad: \o/
3266. # [23:15] <vlad> we'll see
3267. # [23:15] <vlad> my windows build is cursed
3268. # [23:15] <@ehsan> yep
3269. # [23:15] <vlad> or something
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3271. # [23:15] <@ehsan> did it fail?
3272. # [23:15] <mcsmurf> heh
3273. # [23:15] <vlad> on this machine
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3275. # [23:15] <edmorley> khuey: glob was saying earlier that one of the DB clusters is experiencing heavy load or something
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3277. # [23:16] <vlad> nsinstall: failed to create directory c:\proj\moz\firefox\security\c:\proj\moz\gecko\security\dbm\src: [Error 123] The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect: u'c:\\proj\\moz\\firefox\\security\\c:'
3278. # [23:16] <vlad> like, I don't even know wtf
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3280. # [23:16] <nemo> dholbert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820580 here ya go :)
3281. # [23:16] <nemo> dholbert: btw, in the past chrome/ie/opera had completely broken svg animation as background
3282. # [23:16] <nemo> dholbert: that's no longer the case, so this might get more visibility
3283. # [23:16] <vlad> maybe my pymake is old or something?
3284. # [23:17] <vlad> nope
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3288. # [23:18] <vlad> it's getting an absolute path appended where a relative one should go
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3290. # [23:18] <@gavin> vlad: I think jaws was seeing the same thing
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3292. # [23:19] <nemo> heh. nglayout paint debug should have a warning for epileptics :)
3293. # [23:20] <vlad> gavin: it's weird, I'm not building any differently than I have been in the last.. forever
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3295. # [23:21] <mcsmurf> your mozilla-build is up-to-date?
3296. # [23:21] <mcsmurf> actually it probably is
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3298. # [23:21] <mcsmurf> otherwise you would not be able to use it with VS2012 ;)
3299. # [23:22] <vlad> yeah :)
3300. # [23:22] <vlad> however...
3301. # [23:22] <jaws> vlad: i had to back out that patch to get it to work
3302. # [23:22] <vlad> blowing away my objdir and reconfiguring seems to be ok?
3303. # [23:22] <vlad> maybe? I have no idea now!
3304. # [23:22] <jaws> vlad: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486141
3305. # [23:22] <jaws> blowing away the objdir doesn't work
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3307. # [23:23] <jaws> i needed to locally back out that patch
3308. # [23:23] <vlad> jaws: I see a "fix for pymake" on 12-11
3309. # [23:23] <dholbert> nemo, ok. thanks for the bug report
3310. # [23:23] <vlad> which looks like exactly the relevant thing
3311. # [23:23] <jaws> yeah, not sure if that will fix it or not, i haven't updated my tree yet
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3313. # [23:23] <jaws> that's the hope
3314. # [23:23] <vlad> I suspect it works now because I may have just pulled in that patch with an update, heh
3315. # [23:24] <jaws> heh
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3318. # [23:24] <dholbert> nemo, fwiw, I don't see any leaves falling if I view the testcase in opera or chrome
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3321. # [23:24] <dholbert> nemo, so it looks like they might still be busted (or maybe there are just browser-specific quirks on handling this stuff)
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3327. # [23:26] <mjrosenb> edmorley: so for 805299, what should I make the commit message?
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3332. # [23:27] <nemo> dholbert: could be
3333. # [23:27] <nemo> dholbert: other test pages of mine do work
3334. # [23:27] <nemo> dholbert: what version of chrome?
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3337. # [23:28] <nemo> eh. n/m. not seeing it in v25
3338. # [23:29] <edmorley> mjrosenb: same as the trunk landing, but with the a=whomever-approved
3339. # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9602f98a6a70 - Terrence Cole - Bug 819118 - Use accessor rather than direct script access; r=billm
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3341. # [23:29] <nemo> dholbert: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase198.xhtml does work in chrome
3342. # [23:29] <mjrosenb> edmorley: ok, so I shouldn't just truncate it to the bugnumber?
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3344. # [23:30] <edmorley> mjrosenb: the trunk landing had the commit message, truncating for just the branch landing doesn't really gain anything
3345. # [23:30] <nemo> dholbert: good news for you guys. CPU usage remains high in chrome too :)
3346. # [23:30] <nemo> dholbert: even if switched to another tab
3347. # [23:30] <nemo> (on the one where the background actually renders, ofc)
3348. # [23:30] <edmorley> mjrosenb: if the trunk landing commit message revealed too much, then that's unfortunate, but the cat is out of the bag at this point
3349. # [23:30] <mjrosenb> edmorley: good point.
3350. # [23:31] <edmorley> I would imagine these people cross-reference
3351. # [23:31] <dholbert> nemo, hooray! :D
3352. # [23:31] <avih> is it expected that the refresh driver flushes the layout on mouse moves?
3353. # [23:31] <dholbert> nemo, I might make the CPU usage a different bug
3354. # [23:31] <mjrosenb> "Attempt to fix the issues by disabling IM when we run into a corner case, rev 3, looks good on try"
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3356. # [23:31] <dholbert> nemo, hoping to take a look later today
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3358. # [23:31] <nemo> dholbert: I was kinda hoping the explanation for the CPU usage was the excessive repaints
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3360. # [23:31] <dholbert> nemo, when you're viewing the tab, yes
3361. # [23:31] <mjrosenb> edmorley: I swear I wasn't trying to be particularly obtuse :-p
3362. # [23:31] <edmorley> mjrosenb: you may find: "aurora$ hg transplant -e -s ../mozilla-central/ <changeset>" of use
3363. # [23:32] <nemo> dholbert: hm. you don't think it is maybe repainting the inactive tab? doesn't work like that?
3364. # [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a41a29550c44 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 820556 - Kill mUsesDefaultProgram which is always true. r=snorp
3365. # [23:32] <dholbert> nemo, it shouldn't, no
3366. # [23:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99a78630d2c2 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 820556 - Remove unused function. r=snorp
3367. # [23:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2fd28dc82cc0 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 820556 - Remove unused GeckoEventResponder bindings in GeckoLayerClient. r=snorp
3368. # [23:32] <edmorley> mjrosenb: hehe :-)
3369. # [23:32] <dholbert> nemo, we're supposed to be smarter than that :)
3370. # [23:32] <nemo> dholbert: weird that CPU falls off to about 50% of one core when tabbing away from the SVG while stays at 100% of core for the html
3371. # [23:32] <dholbert> nemo, refresh drivers of background tabs have an exponential dropoff in sample-frequency
3372. # [23:32] <nemo> strange
3373. # [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d265add672f8 - Bill Gianopoulos - Bug 814716 - Limit MaxCubeMapTextureSize for Nouveau to 2K - r=jgilbert, a=akeybl
3374. # [23:33] <nemo> dholbert: well only other thing would be recalculating stuff on the page right?
3375. # [23:33] * joey is now known as joey-away
3376. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/68a17202d1ce - Benoit Jacob - Bug 818766 - disable by default losing WebGL contexts on heap-minimize, add a pref for it - r=jgilbert, a=lsblakk
3377. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cf306e973f1c - Benoit Jacob - Bug 818766 - forgot to actually flip the pref to false everywhere - r=jgilbert, a=lsblakk
3378. # [23:33] <edmorley> mjrosenb: sorry if that sounded blunt, was mid trying to clean up my sadly burnt and then fallen off the tray onto the floor mince pies (sad faces :-()
3379. # [23:33] <nemo> dholbert: why on earth would background-image be doing anything to the page?
3380. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ba70d7cad253 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 814407 - reattach textures when a texture image is replaced - r=jgilbert, a=akeybl
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3383. # [23:33] <nemo> dholbert: it should fall off same as the SVG if it isn't painting
3384. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c5fd27d9d543 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 816695 - Blocklist llvmpipe graphics driver - r=jgilbert, a=lsblakk
3385. # [23:33] <nemo> although 50% is still kinda high for such a trivial animation. bet it would be waaaaay less expensive to just animate the SVG in javascript, if only that worked on background images :-p
3386. # [23:33] <mjrosenb> edmorley: no harm.
3387. # [23:33] <dholbert> nemo, it's tricker if it's a background image, because there's a layer of indirection
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3389. # [23:34] <dholbert> nemo, there's an imglib object wrapping the SVG-background-image document, with its own refresh driver, and it doesn't know if it's being viewed in a foreground tab or not
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3391. # [23:34] <@bz> dholbert: hmm
3392. # [23:35] <@bz> dholbert: we share it across tabs, right?
3393. # [23:35] <dholbert> the image? yes
3394. # [23:35] <@bz> yeah
3395. # [23:35] <@bz> mmm
3396. # [23:35] <dholbert> but the way it's supposed to work
3397. # [23:35] * @bz is not sure how to make that completely happy
3398. # [23:35] <dholbert> is that the foreground tabs' refresh drivers drive the animation of the animated image
3399. # [23:36] <dholbert> from jwir3's animated-images-based-on-refresh-driver magic
3400. # [23:36] <dholbert> but I'm willing to believe SVG images have some complexities that weren't sorted out in that work
3401. # [23:37] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I want to look over your patch for bug 792566 but I'm tempted to land it with the typedef removed, any objections?
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3403. # [23:37] <dholbert> nemo / bz: anyway, enough of my hand-waving :) I'm going to finish up a few in-progress bug comments and I'll dig into it this afternoon.
3404. # [23:37] <@bz> dholbert: awesome, thanks!
3405. # [23:38] <dholbert> bz, np, thanks for the heads-up
3406. # [23:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4946d63b2dec - Marty Rosenberg - Attempt to fix the issues by disabling IM when we run into a corner case, rev 3, looks good on try (bug 805299, r=dvander, a=lsblakk)
3407. # [23:38] <nemo> dholbert: cool, cool. I've whined about animated SVGs for years :)
3408. # [23:38] <nemo> dholbert: would be neat to start abusing them in CSS moar
3409. # [23:38] <dholbert> nemo, cool :)
3410. # [23:39] <dholbert> they work nicely as CSS cursors, IIRC
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3412. # [23:39] <nemo> oh???
3413. # [23:39] <nemo> omg!
3414. # [23:39] <mattwoodrow> dholbert: I think jwatt has a bug open for svg invalidation
3415. # [23:39] <mattwoodrow> but I can't find it now
3416. # [23:39] <nemo> dholbert: you're kidding. I've been waiting for CSS cursors to support other image types for ages!
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3419. # [23:39] <nemo> I'd swear I'm subscribed to that bug
3420. # [23:39] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, cool. This is a case where stuff works right if you view the SVG directly, so I think it's unrelated
3421. # [23:39] <mjrosenb> FFFFF
3422. # [23:39] <nemo> dholbert: you don't mean faked out w/ an invisible cursor + JS position updates do you?
3423. # [23:40] <mjrosenb> this machine should not be OOMing while attempting to do a hg clone
3424. # [23:40] <dholbert> nemo, nope, I'm almost certain I tested simple CSS cursors when I was implementing svg-as-an-image
3425. # [23:40] <dholbert> nemo, you do have to specify an explicit height & width on the <svg> element though
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3430. # [23:40] <dholbert> because there's no way to tell the cursor how big you want it to be. (unlike in <img>, say, where you have height & width attributes)
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3432. # [23:41] <nemo> dholbert: well. that's awesome. I assume apng works too then, as much as it annoys me.
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3437. # [23:41] <nemo> dholbert: sure. that's NBD. heck. that's what those attribs on the svg are for, no.
3438. # [23:41] <nemo> dholbert: although surely you could have a "default" size, like 32x32
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3442. # [23:42] <dholbert> nemo, we could, sure. it'd be nice to have that specified in css
3443. # [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/40eef1dfd5de - Mats Palmgren - Bug 814713. r=bz a=abillings
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3446. # [23:42] <Waldo> dholbert: doesn't CSS Images say what size to default to, in that context?
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3448. # [23:43] <Waldo> should, if it doesn't
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3451. # [23:44] <froydnj> tbsaunde: none, though if you're going to land my patch, you should get somebody (ehsan?) to double-check the nsCOMPtr::swap usage as neil asked
3452. # [23:44] <dholbert> Waldo, there is a default size for replaced elements. Not sure about other usages of CSS images
3453. # [23:45] <dholbert> er s/other usages of//
3454. # [23:45] <@ehsan> froydnj: what issue are you talking about?
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3456. # [23:45] <froydnj> ehsan: bug 792566
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3462. # [23:47] <bholley> Waldo: what's ParallelArray?
3463. # [23:48] <bholley> Waldo: old and busted or new hotness?
3464. # [23:48] * bholley has never heard of it
3465. # [23:48] <Waldo> bholley: a rivertrail thing
3466. # [23:48] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: I don't understand the changes in your latest patch to bug 820182
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3469. # [23:48] <Waldo> bholley: I prefer to think of it as new and busted hotness ;-)
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3471. # [23:48] <Waldo> because, well, bolting anything theoretically parallel onto JS just seems crazy to me
3472. # [23:49] <bholley> Waldo: is it at all likely that chrome code might expose one to content and expect it to work properly?
3473. # [23:49] <Waldo> when all sorts of stuff like GC and all theoretically has to cope
3474. # [23:49] <bholley> Waldo: as in, should I handle it in security wrappers?
3475. # [23:49] <@ehsan> froydnj: what did you intend swap to do there?
3476. # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ed9e56c7a5d - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 819588. Null-check the window before jumping. r=emk
3477. # [23:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/939a0ad6e8d6 - Benedict Singer - Bug 803677 - Fix offsetTop/offsetParent for element with display:table-cell that have anonymous table parents. r=bzbarsky
3478. # [23:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a5e83065d9f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 815502. Implement support for variadic arguments in WebIDL. r=peterv
3479. # [23:49] <bholley> Waldo: (COWs)
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3481. # [23:49] <Waldo> bholley: can you just complain if anyone tries to pass one through? that's safest for now
3482. # [23:49] <bholley> Waldo: ok
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3484. # [23:50] <bholley> Waldo: I'm just going to make CallNonGenericMethod fail there
3485. # [23:51] <Waldo> you're not changing CallNonGenericMethod itself, are you, just to be clear?
3486. # [23:51] <Waldo> bholley: ^
3487. # [23:51] <bholley> Waldo: no, I'm just making nativeCall fail for security wrappers modulo a whitelist
3488. # [23:51] <Waldo> bholley: hmm, okay; that's not too bad probably
3489. # [23:51] <bholley> Waldo: same-origin cross-compartment wrappers will still work fine
3490. # [23:52] <josh> Do we use despot for module ownership or anything else any more?
3491. # [23:52] <josh> I didn't think we did, surprised it is still running.
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3496. # [23:54] <@khuey> it's still used to control cvs access, I believe
3497. # [23:54] <@gavin> yes
3498. # [23:54] <@gavin> that's the only reason it's still around
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3501. # [23:55] <jhammel> which leads to the logical question of why cvs is still around ;)
3502. # [23:56] <jhammel> (i know, i know, NSPR, cvs == awesome, etc)
3503. # [23:56] <josh> khuey, gavin: thanks
3504. # [23:56] <@khuey> jhammel: because wan-teh
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3512. # [23:58] <rnewman> froydnj: do you have time to rubber-stamp part 4 of bug 810543?
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