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# Session Start: Wed Dec 12 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:03] <rnewman> will also settle for khuey's intervention, so I can land this and land the next chunk of FHR
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# [00:03] <rnewman> (reviewed part 2, so...)
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# [00:04] <@khuey> hmm?
# [00:05] <jhammel> khuey: we were going to tell you...you have a problem. This is your intervention
# [00:05] <mcsmurf> I have a rather general programming/stack trace question:
# [00:05] <mcsmurf> if some function in the spellchecker code gets called like this
# [00:05] <mcsmurf> Hunspell::Hunspell(char * affpath = 0x0dd31158 "[...]\en-US.dic", char * dpath = 0x115728a8 "[...]\en-US.dic" char * key = 0x0012b71c "???")
# [00:05] <rnewman> jhammel: heh
# [00:06] <mcsmurf> which then executes this line of code: pHMgr[0] = new HashMgr(dpath, affpath, key);
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# [00:06] <mcsmurf> and then debugger tells me
# [00:06] <mcsmurf> HashMgr::HashMgr(char * tpath = 0x105fc300 "", char * apath = 0x0dd31158 "[...]\en-US.aff" char * key = 0x0012b6a0 "???")
# [00:06] <rnewman> khuey: bug 810543, had to fix the test in part 4 (which froydnj reviewed). you reviewed part 2.
# [00:06] <rnewman> rubber stamp, plz, so I can land
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# [00:06] <rnewman> I am too impatient to wait for Yoric to land it :D
# [00:06] <mcsmurf> notice how the address of the tpath/dpath var changed, how can this happen?
# [00:07] <mcsmurf> is this stack corruption or how this is called?
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# [00:07] <mcsmurf> or something else going on?
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# [00:08] <rnewman> khuey: ta
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# [00:08] <mcsmurf> I don't see any code changing dpath before the function call (http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/extensions/spellcheck/hunspell/src/hunspell.cpp#69)
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# [00:09] <dholbert> bugzilla seems to be slow today
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# [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64d3313397e3 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 810543 - do_get_profile now sends the correct events. r=froydnj,khuey
# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1982c49eca6 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 810543 - Testing the behavior of OS.Constants.Path.profileDir;r=froydnj
# [00:10] <nemo> dholbert: WRT CSS cursor. Reason I'm surprised by what you said, is that I thought it depended on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700926
# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f49e7e261603 - Richard Newman - Bug 807842 - FHR provider: profile metadata. r=gps
# [00:10] <nemo> which is still open w/ no patches
# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e818f0e822f3 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 810543 - OS.File now adapts if OS.Constants.Path.profileDir is not available;r=froydnj
# [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9d0df316d44 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 810543 - OS.Constants now adapts if profileDir is not available;r=khuey
# [00:11] <dholbert> nemo, I don't think it depends on that
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# [00:12] <dholbert> nemo, that bug is saying "accept image-like-things wherever we accept images"
# [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbae3f16225b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 820230 - Move PaintSVGGlyph and GetSVGGlyphExtents from nsContentUtils to nsSVGUtils. r=roc
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# [00:12] <dholbert> nemo, whereas an svg image is a "true" image (in the sense that we create an imagelib object for it)
# [00:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d816bf6e05e - Mats Palmgren - Bug 820230 - Add missing #include to fix compile error. r=me
# [00:14] <markh> how far behind does mxr run? I'm not seeing changes to m-c checked in earlier today - is that expected?
# [00:14] <dholbert> markh, I'd worry if it were more than a day out of date
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# [00:14] <markh> ok, thanks
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# [00:19] <nemo> dholbert: well. comment #3 says CSS cursors should accept CSS images (image-like-things). Anyway. If "true" images should work then I should finally be able to do gif and apng cursors. Let's see!
# [00:19] * nemo whips up a quick test
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# [00:21] <nemo> cursor page still says.
# [00:21] <dholbert> nemo, data:text/html,<span style="cursor: url(https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/raw-file/tip/image/test/mochitest/lime100x100.svg), help">cursor</span>
# [00:21] <nemo> "All image formats supported by Gecko can be used. This means that you can use PNG, GIF, JPG, BMP, CUR etc. images. ANI is not supported. An animated PNG or GIF will not create an animated cursor."
# [00:22] <nemo> dholbert: er. but you said animated :)
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# [00:22] <dholbert> nemo, hmm. not sure
# [00:22] <dholbert> nemo, I'd forgotten that there were animation restrictions on cursors
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# [00:24] <dholbert> nemo, yup, looks like we just display the first frame
# [00:24] <dholbert> nemo, example w/ an animated SVG image: data:text/html,<span style="cursor: url(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Chromiumthrobber.svg), help">cursor</span>
# [00:24] <nemo> dholbert: ok. so still dependent on that bug then :)
# [00:24] <dholbert> nemo, not really
# [00:24] <dholbert> nemo, is that bug about animated stuff?
# [00:25] <nemo> dholbert: welll. about properly supporting CSS images across the board
# [00:25] <dholbert> nemo, that bug is about accepting non-images in image contexts
# [00:25] <nemo> that would presumably inclue properly rendering them :)
# [00:25] <dholbert> nemo, it's not about supporting animated images where we don't currently support them
# [00:26] <dholbert> not sure why we don't allow animated images in cursors at the moment, but I'm guessing there's a good (security or UI) reason... I don't think it'd be technically hard
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# [00:27] <nemo> dholbert: I suspect laziness :-p
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# [00:27] <nemo> or rather, you guys are waaaay too stretched thin
# [00:27] <jaws> ehsan: how would private browsing affect reader mode?
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# [00:27] <nemo> dholbert: btw. wrt svg cursor image. image spec says that the default size for a cursor should be: "The default object size is a UA-defined size that should be based on the size of a typical cursor on the UA's operating system."
# [00:27] <nemo> dholbert: so I guess that's what you should be using if the svg has no dimensions :)
# [00:28] <nemo> probably would be ideal even, given different people have different cursor size preferences
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# [00:28] <nemo> " Intrinsic sizes for cursors are calculated as for background images, except that a UA-defined rectangle is used in place of the rectangle that establishes the coordinate system for the 'background-image' property. This UA-defined rectangle should be based on the size of a typical cursor on the UA's operating system."
# [00:28] <nemo> "If the resulting cursor size does not fit within this rectangle, the UA may proportionally scale the resulting cursor down until it fits within the rectangle."
# [00:29] <nemo> hrm. that's probably spam. sorry.
# [00:29] <jaws> ehsan: i'll comment in the bug
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# [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d2586f85a81 - Justin Lebar - Bug 820401 - Default DMD to sample-below=4093. r=njn
# [00:29] <nemo> dholbert: now oddly, I don't see any part of the spec saying explicitly that animated images should be rendered animated in all contexts :) http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-images/#image-notation that is
# [00:30] <nemo> dholbert: it does give an example of where a future extension could allow referencing an arbitrary frame, but that's it
# [00:30] <dholbert> nemo, looks like it is a (ancient perhaps) technical issue after all -- see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=492237
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# [00:31] <nemo> don't even see a conformance test suite for Images
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# [00:36] <tbsaunde> ehsan: so, what didn't you understand?
# [00:37] <tbsaunde> ehsan: in bug 820182
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# [00:51] <NeilAway> ehsan: BeginWriting used to be able to return null, I think
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# [01:36] <Hixie> does ralph giles hang out here sometimes?
# [01:36] <Hixie> ah, rillian!
# [01:36] <Hixie> rillian: ping
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# [01:37] <rillian> hi Hixie
# [01:37] <Hixie> hey
# [01:38] <Hixie> re getMetadata()
# [01:38] <rillian> ah! yes?
# [01:38] <Hixie> is there a draft spec or anything?
# [01:38] <Hixie> i'm trying to work out what to do with ti
# [01:38] <Hixie> it
# [01:38] <Hixie> without having to bite the bullet of maintaining a continually changing set of metadata terms, etc
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# [01:39] <rillian> so, the point with getMetadata() is that there's no schema. you get whatever the user agent chooses to pass on from what's in the media resource
# [01:40] <rillian> ideally somewhat close to the standards for that resource format so you can do format-specific things
# [01:40] <Hixie> oh man
# [01:40] <@ehsan> NeilAway: oh, that explains what I had seen!
# [01:40] <rillian> a number of poeple have expressed displeasure at this
# [01:40] <Hixie> that'll just mean that a few years from now there'll be a de facto standard that everyone tries to reverse engineer from each other
# [01:40] <Hixie> and it'll still be my mess to unravel ;-)
# [01:40] <rillian> Hixie: my other proposal was to standardize a set of tags
# [01:40] <rillian> see the whatwg post
# [01:40] <@ehsan> jaws: ok I'll take a look, thanks!
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# [01:40] <rillian> silvia suggested those be properties on the media element itself
# [01:41] <Hixie> rillian: yeah, that's what i was hoping might have gotten standardised
# [01:41] <rillian> i.e. audio.title would update when you change audio.src
# [01:41] <rillian> Hixie: I've not implemented the second one for lack of feedback
# [01:41] <Hixie> understood
# [01:41] <rillian> the first one is shipping (prefixed) in Firefox
# [01:41] <Hixie> any idea if any other vendors are doing anything on this front?
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# [01:42] <rillian> I haven't heard anything either way, which I imagine means "no"
# [01:42] <Hixie> (btw, fwiw i'm definitely on board with your idea of keeping this in a separate object rather than on HTMLMediaElement)
# [01:42] <Hixie> k
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# [01:42] <rillian> Hixie: so you don't like silvia's idea?
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# [01:42] <rillian> you prefer media.metadata.creator to media.creator?
# [01:43] <Hixie> HTMLMediaElement is already a pig sty of properties and methods
# [01:43] <Hixie> adding more will just make it worse
# [01:43] <Hixie> especially a whole pile
# [01:43] <Hixie> even more a pile that every vendor will extend in their own way
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# [01:43] <rillian> I was in favour of it because it means less typing, but I don't feel strongly about it
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# [01:43] <rillian> it's also easier to enumerate for support detection if it's encapsulated
# [01:44] <Hixie> eh, you wouldn't do vid.metadata.foo each time, you'd just do m = vid.metadata; m.foo etc
# [01:44] <Hixie> yeah
# [01:44] <rillian> ok, thanks
# [01:44] <Hixie> and you can navigate it in a debugger more sanely
# [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31ff0e486fb5 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 819827: make fallback value for UpdateChannel.get() match the build's original update channel, r=rstrong
# [01:44] <firebot> Check-in:
# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/53c625185568 - Robert Strong - Bug 759639 - Intermittent test_0202_app_launch_apply_update_dirlocked_svc.js | test failed (with xpcshell return code: 0), | pending-service == pending, | exception thrown
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# [01:45] <@roc> Hixie: why "that'll just mean that a few years from now there'll be a de facto standard that everyone tries to reverse engineer from each other"?
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# [01:45] <rillian> Hixie: my proposal for an initial schema was title, artist, album, artwork. See http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2012-November/038121.html
# [01:45] <Hixie> rillian: ok well what i'm hearing here is that i should basically reply saying that in principle this seems fine but that (a) it needs a spec i can point to, and (b) it needs buy-in from other vendors
# [01:45] <rillian> I think that's the bare minimum for our use cases
# [01:45] <@roc> Ralph's raw metadata interface is pretty easy to specify
# [01:45] <Hixie> rillian: yeah
# [01:45] <Hixie> roc: because the exact terms aren't defined
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# [01:45] <Hixie> roc: so mozilla will have Title, chrome will have title, IE will have TrackName, safari will have name, and opera will have stdboxname
# [01:46] <Hixie> or whatever
# [01:46] * seth grumbles about excessive use of friend classes
# [01:46] <rillian> Hixie: yes
# [01:46] <@roc> I don't think so, because it returns raw data directly from the resource
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# [01:46] <rillian> which is to be expected since they play disjoint media formats
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# [01:46] <seth> i prefer my classes to be as antisocial as possible
# [01:46] <rillian> roc: more likely it returns whatever convention the reading library uses
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# [01:47] <rillian> that's the same as raw data for vorbis and opus
# [01:47] <Hixie> roc: these formats don't always have clear field names, e.g. some versions of id3 iirc just have indexes
# [01:47] <@roc> then we should return those indexes
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# [01:47] <rillian> but e.g. we read id3 tags through stagefright which inserts an abstraction layer
# [01:47] <@roc> then we should stop doing that
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# [01:47] <Hixie> roc: without a spec, i guarantee that each vendor will do something different
# [01:48] <rillian> Hixie: I agree
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# [01:48] <Hixie> rillian: btw, any idea if mozGetMetadata() is used much?
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# [01:48] <@roc> okay, we may need to define for each container format how the data values are reflected, but we don't need to specify the ontology mess
# [01:48] <rillian> roc: the alternative is to open the resource twice. once for our own tag parser, then again for actual playback. Doesn't seem like a win?
# [01:48] <Hixie> roc: right, that's the spec i don't want to maintain
# [01:48] <@roc> it's a win if it avoids platform dependencies
# [01:49] <@roc> we sure as heck aren't going to return different metadata for the same file in Firefox on Android vs Firefox on Windows
# [01:49] <rillian> Hixie: I've never seen it used. We wanted it for music player webapps for FirefoxOS, but I believe they're using a js tag parser at the moment
# [01:49] <Hixie> heh k
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# [01:51] <rillian> roc: we *can* successfully map the schema'd proposal from whatever the platform library tells us
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# [01:51] <rillian> Hixie: anyway, all this seem like good things to say on the list
# [01:52] <Hixie> rillian: will do
# [01:52] <rillian> thanks!
# [01:52] <RyanVM> jaws: orange on m-b
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# [01:54] <@gavin> RyanVM: any chance you'll be around to watch that ^ m-c push?
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# [01:54] <@gavin> I 100% garantee it won't break anything, but I just pushed to m-c and need to go soon :)
# [01:54] <RyanVM> probably not, pretty worn out from traveling
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# [01:55] <@gavin> ok, no worries!
# [01:55] <@gavin> offer's open to anyone else, too! :)
# [01:55] <@roc> So you were planning to have the raw metadata interface return different values depending on the platform? I was not aware of that.
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# [01:57] <RyanVM> gavin: i'll watch it while I'm around
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# [01:57] <rillian> roc: well it's moot until we have multiple playback implementations
# [01:57] <rillian> for the same format
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# [01:58] <rillian> I guess I could try with the gstreamer back-end
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# [01:58] <rillian> to be honest I didn't notice the problem until recently
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# [01:59] <RyanVM> gavin: nice of you to say hi when you walked past me yesterday, btw ;)
# [02:00] <@gavin> RyanVM: what!?
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# [02:01] <@gavin> RyanVM: you were here yesterday?
# [02:01] <dholbert> indeed he was
# [02:02] <@gavin> when? was I in a drunken haze?
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# [02:03] <@gavin> now I feel bad
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# [02:05] <RyanVM> gavin: you were on your way to the buffet line :)
# [02:06] <RyanVM> i was over by jibjab
# [02:06] <@gavin> oh well sorry I didn't get to say hi
# [02:07] <RyanVM> it's fine, I was just teasing
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# [02:07] <@gavin> RyanVM: were you at the first summit or the second?
# [02:07] <@gavin> or both?
# [02:08] <@gavin> I remember meeting you at one of them
# [02:08] <RyanVM> second
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# [02:09] <@ehsan> jdm: r+!!!
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# [02:10] <jdm> ehsan: still waiting on mcmanus
# [02:10] <jdm> but yes
# [02:10] <@ehsan> ouch
# [02:10] <@ehsan> right :D
# [02:10] <jdm> r+!!!!
# [02:10] <@ehsan> hehe
# [02:10] <@ehsan> I almost jumped out of my chair!
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# [02:10] <jdm> argh
# [02:10] <jdm> how do I make os x show me hidden files in filepickers?
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# [02:12] <lsblakk> defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
# [02:12] <jdm> lsblakk++
# [02:12] <seth> or temporarily command-shift-period
# [02:12] <lsblakk> then killall Finder
# [02:12] <jdm> oh really?
# [02:12] <lsblakk> ooh, neat
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# [02:12] <tbsaunde> jdm: just use ls? :-P
# [02:13] <lsblakk> hah - that too :)
# [02:13] <jdm> tbsaunde: not for attaching to bugzilla
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# [02:13] <erick> seth: that's awesome, thanks!
# [02:13] <seth> use bzexport =)
# [02:13] <seth> heh np
# [02:13] <jdm> seth: it failed to attach over and over :D
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# [02:13] <@gavin> you can also always use Cmd+Shift+G
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# [02:13] <sicking> tbsaunde: hey Trevor! Did you ever get a chance to move on that MSCOM vs. XPCOM bug? It's totally not a priority, but would be nice to get fixed at some point
# [02:14] <jdm> cmd+shift+period is fantastic
# [02:14] <seth> jdm: heh it seems like the sort of thing that might misbehave sometimes =)
# [02:14] <seth> (bzexport, i mean)
# [02:14] <@gavin> jdm: what does that do?
# [02:14] <jdm> gavin: shows hidden files for the duration of the picker
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# [02:14] <@gavin> oh
# [02:15] <@gavin> interesting
# [02:15] <seth> gavin: yeah, cmd+shift+g is great because you can use tab completion in there
# [02:15] <@gavin> ah, didn't even know that
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# [02:21] <tbsaunde> sicking: hey! we've done a bit of work that makes that easier, but not done yet
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# [02:40] <jcranmer> complain that their tool doesn't support Unicode properly
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# [02:47] <nemo> heh. here's a fun one.
# [02:47] <nemo> http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/WIPzdBq6E4Y
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# [02:47] <nemo> in my obsessive "who's dissing firefox now" browsing ;)
# [02:48] <nemo> "Its recommended to use Google Chrome for better performance. :)"
# [02:48] <nemo> aanyway. tried to reproduce
# [02:48] <nemo> worked totally fine in latest firefox
# [02:48] <nemo> deleted, new profile, also worked
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# [02:48] <nemo> BUT if I set Private Browsing, it stopped working
# [02:49] <nemo> my WAG is that maaaaybe google is trying to keep those settings in IDB or somesuch which is broken in private browsing (IDB in Firefox simply aborts in private browsing - discovered this when some users complained our game didn't work)
# [02:50] <nemo> hrm. you know. n/m on that theory. just retested, and it shows up
# [02:50] <nemo> weird
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# [02:52] <nemo> eh. just seems to be random. n/m. I don't think this is a firefox problem. perhaps some random ass A/B testing on their part
# [02:52] <nemo> and dude on forum just didn't know what he was talking about
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# [03:48] <@smaug> at least the XHR2 part
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# [04:54] <@ehsan> bsmith: ping
# [04:54] <bsmith> ehsan: pong
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# [04:55] <@ehsan> bsmith: hey, I was about to land bug 769288. wanted to get a green light from you before I do that :)
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# [04:57] <bsmith> Yes, I think it has had enough review. It would be great if you could make the one small change I requested in comment 102 when you land it (check the return value of IsOnCurrentThread())
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# [04:57] <@ehsan> bsmith: of course
# [04:57] <@ehsan> bsmith: thanks *so* much :)
# [04:57] <bsmith> Thank jdm, he did all the work
# [04:57] <@ehsan> it's true :)
# [04:58] <bsmith> I mostly just sat here looking beautiful
# [04:58] <@ehsan> hehe, and I just did the pestering :)
# [04:58] * @ehsan wonders whether he should push to central...
# [04:58] <jduell> jdm does all my work for me too.
# [04:58] <@ehsan> jduell: mine too!
# [04:58] <@ehsan> anybody wanna watch the tree after I fall asleep?
# [04:58] <bsmith> perhaps it is better to just push to inbound
# [04:59] <bsmith> given that its been backed out of central 3 times, I think
# [04:59] <@ehsan> bsmith: nah, I think I may just stay awake for 2-3 hours
# [04:59] <@ehsan> it's totally worth it!
# [04:59] <bsmith> will this change all the UI too?
# [04:59] <@ehsan> bsmith: no, bug 818732 is that switch
# [05:00] <@ehsan> which I'll push shortly after this!
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# [05:04] <@ehsan> oh C++
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# [05:05] <@ehsan> no, it doesn't
# [05:06] <@ehsan> you can't override macros, right?
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# [05:18] <bjacob> oh, i'm red on esr17
# [05:19] <bjacob> looking
# [05:19] <bjacob> lsblakk: ^
# [05:20] <bjacob> looks trivial, fixing
# [05:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/18baa7203214 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 818732 - Switch Nightly to per-window private browsing; r=jdm
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# [05:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d911d2d6906 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 820273 - Move social tests to make them easier to run alone. r=felipe
# [05:22] <markh> ehsan: \o/
# [05:22] <@ehsan> :)
# [05:23] <@ehsan> I wonder what covert project I should focus on for the next 19 months... ;)
# [05:23] <markh> :)
# [05:23] <Mook> ehsan: MOZ_ASSERT is insane, and takes one or two arguments.
# [05:24] <@ehsan> really?!
# [05:24] <Mook> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/Assertions.h#205
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# [05:24] <@ehsan> holy cow!!!
# [05:24] * @ehsan did not know that
# [05:25] <@ehsan> poor compiler
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# [05:25] <Mook> it uses __VA_ARGS__ to expand to some_other_macro(x, y, 2, 1, 0) and switches on the third arg to pick another macro to expand to...
# [05:25] <@ehsan> yeah
# [05:26] <@ehsan> crazy stuff
# [05:26] <@ehsan> bz_away: around by any chance?
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# [05:35] <@bz_away> ehsan: yes
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# [05:35] <@ehsan> bz: so do you know how the XUL prototype cache puts stuff in the startup cache?
# [05:36] <bjacob> i have _no idea_ about the Windows Opt red B on ESR17
# [05:36] <bjacob> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Esr17&rev=12d64ab0f2ac
# [05:36] <@bz> ehsan: not offhand. :(
# [05:36] <bjacob> my patches did not modify anything in the canvas/test makefiles
# [05:36] <@ehsan> bz: ok, I'll printf debug then
# [05:37] <@bz> ehsan: good luck...
# [05:37] <bjacob> or in canvas/ makefiles at all
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# [05:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9929a498ba0e - Trevor Saunders - bug 820403 - remove nsISupportsArray members in nsFormFillController r=ehsan
# [05:37] <@ehsan> bz: thanks! who should review changes to the xul prototype cache?
# [05:39] <tbsaunde> man, the SetArguments() stuff on windows is totally insane
# [05:42] <bjacob> i am going to assume that the windows opt red B was a one-time accident :-/
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# [05:44] <@bz> ehsan: bsmedberg is probably a good choice
# [05:44] <@ehsan> bz: cool, thanks
# [05:45] <@bz> ehsan: this private hidden window thing is pretty scary. :(
# [05:45] <@ehsan> bz: yeah I know :(
# [05:45] <@bz> ehsan: I really wish the sdk were not abusing the hidden window like this...
# [05:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d104b821f91 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 800862 - Unwind bailouts exception with the interpreter. r=dvander
# [05:45] <@ehsan> bz: it seems like the only solution for jetpack unless they wanna break their APIs even more than they already have to
# [05:46] <@ehsan> bz: yeah so do I....
# [05:46] <@bz> ehsan: because I'm rapidly getting to the point of trying to come up with a different way for their stuff to work
# [05:46] <@bz> ehsan: and claiming that no matter how risky it will be less risky than this
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# [05:46] <@ehsan> bz: hmm, I don't really have a lot of visibility on what that would look like on their side
# [05:46] <@ehsan> but I think that requires them to break their APIs
# [05:47] <@ehsan> and that's not ok for them...
# [05:47] <@bz> I don't see how
# [05:47] <@ehsan> it's not clear to me either
# [05:47] <@bz> Their API just promises the thing will stick around, I would hope
# [05:47] <@bz> well, can we get them to talk to us?
# [05:47] <@bz> "them", "us", sigh
# [05:47] <@ehsan> sure
# [05:47] <@ehsan> Erik has actually been quite responsive
# [05:48] <@ehsan> he's the guy who filed the bug
# [05:48] <@ehsan> actually
# [05:48] <@ehsan> bz: here's a strawman
# [05:48] <@ehsan> tell me if I'm crazy
# [05:48] <markh> bz: fwiw, the social stuff might end up abusing the hidden window in the same way. If we want to allow social features to be enabled in PB windows, we need to be able to create an iframe in the hidden window that shares the same cookie jar etc with the top-level PB windows.
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# [05:49] <@ehsan> they're already going to kill the private iframe when last-pb-context-exited fires
# [05:49] <markh> (although our first step is simply to disable the feature in such windows)
# [05:49] <@ehsan> and recreate it when a new private window opens
# [05:49] <@ehsan> markh: no!!! please don't :(
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# [05:49] <markh> ehsan: don't what exactly?
# [05:49] <@bz> Can we just avoid dumping stuff in the hidden window?
# [05:49] <@bz> The hidden window has all sorts of extra special magic
# [05:50] <@ehsan> bz: now, given that, how hard would it for them to just make the iframe off of the first private window, and swap its docshell if that private window gets closed and another one is open?
# [05:50] <@bz> and most importantly, last I checked it BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY ON DIFFERENT OSES
# [05:50] <@ehsan> markh: please do not hang stuff off of hidden windows
# [05:50] <@bz> This last should be a giant red flag in the sky to anyone trying to use it
# [05:50] <markh> the social feature already does
# [05:50] <@ehsan> markh: yes, and that's a bug that should be fixed!
# [05:50] <markh> the "fix" is to give us shared workers
# [05:51] <@bz> OK
# [05:51] <@bz> so we should do that
# [05:51] <@ehsan> agreed
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# [05:51] <@bz> instead of spending the same amount of development effort stabilizing this hackery...
# [05:51] <@ehsan> right
# [05:51] <markh> yeah, I can't argue with that
# [05:51] <@ehsan> good!
# [05:51] <@ehsan> bz: so, let me stop working on this, and comment on the bug and see what Erik says
# [05:51] <@bz> ehsan: thinking about your proposal
# [05:52] <@bz> ehsan: ok
# [05:52] <@ehsan> bz: cause I don't think that jetpack uses the shared worker model
# [05:52] <@bz> ehsan: he's better positioned to evaluate your proposal than I am, for sure
# [05:52] <@bz> ehsan: yeah
# [05:52] <@ehsan> bz: yeah, just wanted to sanity check it with you
# [05:52] <@bz> ehsan: jetpack is doing something weird, but I can't tell what
# [05:52] <markh> so IIUC, jetpack just "parks" a panel in the hidden window so it can be reused in any top-level window later
# [05:52] <@bz> ehsan: but their api on top of it is pretty abstract
# [05:52] <@bz> right
# [05:52] <@bz> And a panel is just an iframe?
# [05:52] <@ehsan> wait a sec
# [05:52] <markh> it's a xul panel that could hold anything, including an iframe (IIRC)
# [05:53] <@bz> hrm.
# [05:53] <@ehsan> we already have something that they can use..
# [05:53] <@ehsan> hold on
# [05:53] <@bz> How do they "park" an element?
# [05:53] * @bz would really like to understand the compat constraints here.
# [05:53] <@ehsan> ah crap
# [05:53] <markh> and IIUC, the main issue is that if the same panel does hold and iframe and ends up getting reused between a PB window and a normal window, things will not work as the user might expect
# [05:53] <@ehsan> I was thinking of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/modules/BrowserNewTabPreloader.jsm
# [05:53] <@ehsan> but that also uses hiddenWindow :(
# [05:53] <markh> use swapFrameLoader or whatever it is
# [05:54] <@bz> markh: swapFrameLoader works on iframes/browsers
# [05:54] <@ehsan> let me dig up their code
# [05:54] <@bz> markh: so things that have a docshell.
# [05:54] <@bz> Sorry for all the questions, btw; just trying to catch up here...
# [05:55] <@ehsan> bz: do you have a clone of their repo
# [05:55] <@ehsan> ?
# [05:55] <@bz> Nope
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# [05:55] <@ehsan> ok
# [05:56] <@bz> (Yet Another Reason for it to live in m-c? ;))
# [05:56] <@bz> I can clone
# [05:56] <markh> so the panel appears to be added to an iframe they create
# [05:56] <@bz> ok
# [05:56] <@bz> There we go
# [05:56] <@bz> So there's an iframe
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# [05:56] <markh> no - back to front
# [05:56] <markh> the panel has the frame appended to it
# [05:56] <@bz> ok
# [05:56] <@bz> and the panel contains only an iframe
# [05:56] <@bz> and this iframe is what they swap over
# [05:57] <markh> yeah
# [05:57] <@bz> OK
# [05:57] <@bz> So the goal is to just not share the panel between a PB window and a non-PB window, right?
# [05:57] <@ehsan> bz: https://github.com/mozilla/addon-sdk/blob/master/lib/sdk/frame/hidden-frame.js
# [05:57] <markh> yeah - or I guess really just that iframe
# [05:58] <@bz> right
# [05:58] <markh> but also for the iframe to have the same "cookie jar" as the top-level window it is currently anchored to
# [05:59] <@ehsan> right
# [05:59] <@bz> mmm
# [05:59] <@ehsan> those are the same thing now, fwiw
# [05:59] <@bz> So they run different code on Mac and non-Mac, ok
# [06:00] <@bz> OK, so what they really want is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565388
# [06:00] <@bz> As the code comments say
# [06:00] <markh> FWIW, the panel itself is at https://github.com/mozilla/addon-sdk/blob/master/lib/sdk/panel.js
# [06:00] <@bz> I don't get it.
# [06:00] <@bz> This is already possible.
# [06:00] <@bz> Using nsWebBrowser.
# [06:01] * @bz is not sure whether it was in 2010-05, but suspects it was.
# [06:01] <@ehsan> can that be done from JS?
# [06:01] <@bz> Checking.
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# [06:03] <@bz> sorry, the e10s code got rearranged, finding the place that matters
# [06:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1fe0626d17c3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 18baa7203214 (bug 818732) beacuse bug 769288 is going to be backed out
# [06:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/553a3bcf1fe7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 7 changesets (bug 769288) because of leaks
# [06:04] <@bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#502
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# [06:05] <@bz> All this stuff should be scriptable.
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# [06:05] <@ehsan> nice!
# [06:05] <@bz> I _think_ I fixed nsWebBrowser to be initializable with no nsIWidget
# [06:05] <@ehsan> bz: can you please comment on the bug then?
# [06:06] <@bz> which is the one thing in there that obviously looks worrisome
# [06:06] <@bz> which bug?
# [06:06] <@ehsan> I really like to fix bugs in nsWebBrowser if needed instead of doing what I'm doing now
# [06:06] <@bz> 565388?
# [06:06] <@bz> yeah, I would too
# [06:06] <@ehsan> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815847
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# [06:06] <@ehsan> bz: well, maybe that too
# [06:07] <@bz> Ah
# [06:07] <@bz> nsIBaseWindow has nonscriptable stuff....
# [06:07] * @bz checks something
# [06:08] <@bz> hrm
# [06:08] <@bz> this thing would want a parent widget
# [06:08] * @bz thought we had changed that requirement...
# [06:09] <@bz> But seriously, I think that having a scriptable way to set up an nsWebBrowser is the way to go...
# [06:09] <@bz> Since they don't need layout or event delivery or anything else like that....
# [06:09] <@bz> Hrm
# [06:09] <@bz> I wonder whether the swap code works without layout stuff. It might....
# [06:10] <@ehsan> don't we already rely on that?
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# [06:10] <@ehsan> for preloading about:newtab?
# [06:10] <@bz> hmm?
# [06:10] <@bz> how so?
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# [06:11] <@ehsan> well, we create an iframe off of the hidden window
# [06:11] <@ehsan> and then swap its docshell into the new tab's docshell
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# [06:11] <@ehsan> before that happens, the iframe should not get any layout
# [06:11] <@ehsan> right?
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# [06:12] <@bz> I ... don't know
# [06:12] <@bz> Does the hidden window not do layout?
# [06:12] <@ehsan> I don't _think_ so
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# [06:13] <@ehsan> I'll brb
# [06:13] <@bz> ok
# [06:13] <@ehsan> bz: (fwiw, I still think my other solution would work at least as a temporary hack regardless)
# [06:13] <@ehsan> brb for realz
# [06:14] <@bz> yeah
# [06:14] <markh> I wonder what the real cost would be to jetpack of having an iframe for the panel in each window, and they just need to re-create it when the top-level window does. IOW, they just "park" it in whatever window the panel was last used in and re-create it dynamically if it dies.
# [06:14] <@bz> if the panel has internal state, won't that lose the state?
# [06:15] <markh> heh - yeah
# [06:15] <tbsaunde> ehsan: bz I think the hidden window does layout (at least pres shells, because of bug 794041 existing)
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# [06:19] <ewong> ehsan https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=18baa7203214, orange C isleaking..
# [06:19] <ewong> linux64 debug I mean
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# [06:22] <ewong> oh.. nvm.. it was backed out already..
# [06:22] <ewong> sorry
# [06:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a00257dcffab - Matthew Gregan - Bug 815569 - Pause (rather than mute) media elements interrupted by the audio channel service. r=roc
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# [06:24] <@ehsan> bz: markh: yeah, I guess we don't want to lose the internal state... :/
# [06:24] <@ehsan> which is only a real issue on mac
# [06:25] <@ehsan> bz: and that means that my proposal won't work
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# [06:27] <@bz> ehsan: ah
# [06:27] <@bz> ehsan: :(
# [06:28] <@ehsan> bz: and if we don't do layout for headset nsWebBrowser's, that may not be an option either :/
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# [06:30] <@ehsan> bz: and on top of that, we can't make nsIBaseWindow easily scriptable since nsIWidget is not scriptable
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# [06:31] <@ehsan> so we're sort of screwed
# [06:31] <ewong> ehsan ping
# [06:31] <@ehsan> ewong: hey
# [06:31] <ewong> ehsan might you have any pointers how I might fix bug #805359?
# [06:32] <ewong> it's all editor stuff..
# [06:32] <@ehsan> good question!
# [06:33] <@ehsan> let me try to remember where that code lives...
# [06:33] <@bz> ehsan: well, so.
# [06:33] <@bz> ehsan: nsIBaseWindow _is_ scriptable
# [06:33] <@bz> ehsan: it just has noscript methods
# [06:33] <@ehsan> yes
# [06:33] <@bz> ehsan: like the ones that need widgets.
# [06:34] <@bz> ehsan: we can certainly do layout in an nsWebBrowser in general
# [06:34] <@bz> ehsan: it would definitely need a widget.
# [06:34] <@ehsan> where would we get one from?
# [06:35] <@bz> So JS obviously can't
# [06:35] <@ehsan> right
# [06:35] <@bz> If we really cared about supporting this, we could hook one up
# [06:35] * @bz notes that if PuppetWidget didn't have this TabChild dependency it would work
# [06:35] <@bz> Since we really don't need much out of this widget....
# [06:36] <@ehsan> what exactly do we need?
# [06:36] <@ehsan> this stuff is a bit over my head :/
# [06:36] * @bz is looking
# [06:36] <@bz> I haven't dug into this stuff in a bit...
# [06:36] <@bz> So fwiw, my first instinct would be to try adding a scriptable method to init a basewindow with no widget
# [06:37] <@bz> and implement that in nsWebBrowser
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# [06:37] <@bz> and see if things Just Work
# [06:37] <@bz> So looking at PuppetWidget
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# [06:39] <@bz> IMEEndComposition
# [06:39] <@bz> SetInputContext
# [06:39] <@bz> GetInputContext
# [06:39] <@bz> OnIMEFocusChange
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# [06:40] <@bz> SetCursor
# [06:40] <@bz> Paint(), notifying the widget that we painted
# [06:40] <@bz> GetDPI()
# [06:40] <@bz> Getting a shareable window native data....
# [06:40] <@bz> hrm
# [06:40] <@bz> That's it
# [06:41] <@bz> most of these null-check
# [06:41] <@bz> So it might be possible to just operate a PuppetWidget with a null TabChild
# [06:41] <@bz> So maybe start _there_
# [06:41] <@bz> Expose some helper function that sets up an nsWebBrowser with a PuppetWidget
# [06:42] <@bz> and hands it out
# [06:42] <@ehsan> bz: dumb question, what is a PuppetWidget?
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# [06:42] <@bz> it's the nsIWidget implementation we use for e10s
# [06:43] <@bz> Because we don't want real OS widgets in the content process
# [06:43] <@ehsan> ok
# [06:43] <@bz> 523 mWidget = nsIWidget::CreatePuppetWidget(this);
# [06:43] <@ehsan> is it controlled by a real widget?
# [06:43] <@bz> In TabChild::Init
# [06:43] <@bz> controlled in what sense?
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# [06:43] <@ehsan> I mean, why is it called a puppet?
# [06:43] <@bz> 9 * This "puppet widget" isn't really a platform widget. It's intended
# [06:43] <@bz> 10 * to be used in widgetless rendering contexts, such as sandboxed
# [06:43] <@bz> 11 * content processes. If any "real" widgetry is needed, the request
# [06:43] <@bz> 12 * is forwarded to and/or data received from elsewhere.
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# [06:44] <@ehsan> ok
# [06:44] <@ehsan> makes sense
# [06:44] * @bz is glad some of us still write file-level comments. ;)
# [06:44] <@ehsan> heh
# [06:44] <@bz> So I can try to write something up here if you'd prefer...
# [06:45] <@ehsan> bz: I definitely would prefer that if you have the cycles :)
# [06:45] <@bz> The problem is timeframes
# [06:45] <@ehsan> timeframes?
# [06:45] <@bz> and the fact that I'm likely to be on PTO some large fraction of the 2 weeks starting Monday
# [06:45] <@bz> "Do I have time to get it done this week?"
# [06:45] <@ehsan> right
# [06:45] <@ehsan> hmm
# [06:45] <@bz> And if not, whether it's OK if it happens after the new year.
# [06:45] <@bz> ok
# [06:45] <@ehsan> bz: if you can knock up something quick, maybe I can finish it?
# [06:46] <@bz> Fair.
# [06:46] <@ehsan> or maybe it can wait till 2013
# [06:46] <@bz> OK, I'll give it a stab tomorrow.
# [06:46] * @ehsan is on PTO half of next week too
# [06:46] <@ehsan> bz: thanks a lot!
# [06:46] * @bz feels bad about all these reviews
# [06:46] <@ehsan> this PuppetWidget is fun though
# [06:47] <@ehsan> maybe we can use it for headless rendering too...
# [06:47] * @ehsan has had evil plans about that for a while
# [06:47] <@ehsan> but let's not talk about those now!
# [06:47] <@bz> mm
# [06:48] <@bz> So the one really hard dependency on tabparent here was for this shareable window thing....
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# [06:48] <@ehsan> so we might be able to get rid of that dependency...
# [06:48] <@bz> Which is only used for NPNVnetscapeWindow
# [06:49] <@bz> From NPAPI stuff
# [06:49] <@bz> We could always just hope people aren't putting plugin instances in this stuff... ;)
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# [06:49] <@ehsan> well, headless rendering of plugins is just too crazy
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# [06:49] <@ehsan> I will be more than happy to explicitly not support plugins
# [06:49] <@ehsan> jdm: hey!
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# [06:49] <@ehsan> jdm: look at m-c for some amusement ;)
# [06:50] <jdm> ehsan: hey
# [06:50] <jdm> uh oh
# [06:50] <@bz> NPNVnetscapeWindow: MS Windows and Unix/X11 only:
# [06:50] <@bz> MS Windows: Gets the native window on which plug-in drawing occurs; returns HWND
# [06:50] <@bz> Unix/X11: Gets the browser toplevel window in which the plug-in is displayed; returns Window
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# [06:50] <jdm> ehsan: did you land the nss patch? it's not ready.
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# [06:50] <@bz> I think returning "null" for that is Eminently Reasonable
# [06:50] <@bz> ok
# [06:50] <@bz> This should totally work
# [06:50] <@ehsan> noted
# [06:50] <jdm> grumble
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# [06:50] <@ehsan> jdm: yeah I figured :)
# [06:50] <markh> Saying people aren't going to want to play a flash video in a jetpack panel might be optimistic (if that is what you are saying)
# [06:50] <@ehsan> jdm: sorry for rushing it in
# [06:51] <@ehsan> markh: no I sort of moved on ;)
# [06:51] <markh> cool :)
# [06:51] <@ehsan> by the time that the panel shows up we should have a real widget handy
# [06:51] <@ehsan> which _should_ let people do all sort of plugin stuff, I'd hope
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# [06:52] <@ehsan> jdm: you should probably consider dynamically allocating that mutex or something
# [06:52] <jdm> ehsan: yep
# [06:53] <@bz> markh: I would classify an attempt to do so as a security bug, in general
# [06:54] <@bz> markh: by which I mean flash anywhere in the UI
# [06:54] <@ehsan> bz: that panel doesn't have chrome privs I hope...
# [06:54] * @ehsan is somehow guessing that he's in fact wrong
# [06:54] <@bz> ehsan: it shouldn't
# [06:54] <@bz> let element = hostDocument.createElementNS(XUL_NS, "iframe");
# [06:54] <@bz> element.setAttribute("type", "content");
# [06:55] <@ehsan> right
# [06:55] <@bz> Then it just matters what you load in it
# [06:55] <@bz> if you load a chrome:// URI... ;)
# [06:56] <@ehsan> ewong: (btw, sorry I couldn't find it now -- please comment on the bug and I'll look more tomorrW)
# [06:56] <ewong> ehsan: thanks!
# [06:56] <@ehsan> bz: surely addons are not that crazy!
# [06:56] <@ehsan> huzzah!
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# [06:57] <@ehsan> bz: in the mean time I'll see if I can beat up the startup cache hard enough for us to have an exit strategy :/
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# [06:59] <@bz> ehsan: Sounds like a plan.
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# [07:19] <heycam> bz, the dom/webidl/HTMLDivElement.idl, is that in use?
# [07:19] <heycam> bz, can't see it referenced in Bindings.conf
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# [07:27] <jdm> ehsan: so I've fixed the leak
# [07:27] <jdm> it is a very simple cange
# [07:27] <@ehsan> jdm: great!
# [07:27] <@ehsan> jdm: wanna pastebin it?
# [07:27] <jdm> yep
# [07:28] <jlebar> So apparently "above my ken" is not a real idiom. Or at least, that definition of "ken" does not appear in the OED.
# [07:28] <jlebar> I wonder where I got that from.
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# [07:28] <@ehsan> jlebar: what does that mean?
# [07:28] <jdm> ehsan: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1989311
# [07:29] <jdm> jlebar: does the OED recognize scottish brogue?
# [07:29] <@ehsan> jdm: r=me
# [07:29] <@ehsan> jdm: but please push to inbound, I won't be able to stay awake long enough :/
# [07:29] <jdm> sure thing
# [07:29] <@ehsan> jdm: and thank you very much! :)
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# [07:30] <@ehsan> jdm: I will probably switch pbngen tomorrow though
# [07:30] <jdm> that's fine
# [07:30] <@ehsan> a bit afraid to push it and go to sleep
# [07:30] <jlebar> jdm: I think they're concerned about written language. For example, they don't have an entry for "aboot".
# [07:30] <@ehsan> it's not gonna be a deep sleep...
# [07:30] <jdm> ha
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# [07:31] <tbsaunde> ehsan: we have most of the forms of caffeen people normally consume in the office
# [07:31] <tbsaunde> :P
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# [07:31] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: well, I didn't have enough espressos today, that's for sure
# [07:31] <@ehsan> only 4-5 double shots...
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# [07:36] <tbsaunde> ehsan: you can do better than that ;)
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# [07:41] <@ehsan> jdm: yay!!! :)
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# [08:01] <Yoric> Oh great.
# [08:01] <Yoric> Right now, I can't run xpcshell tests and I can't build.
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# [08:21] <hsivonen> is the disabledness of menu items computed when a menu is opened? or does it need to be computed in advance in order to support Ubuntu global menu, accessibility or the like?
# [08:22] <Mossop> Depends on the menu, but many are computed when opened
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# [08:31] <hsivonen> Mossop: OK. Thanks.
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# [08:38] <hsivonen> Mossop: is the
# [08:39] <hsivonen> <menuitem observes="..."> stuff computed upon menu opening or continuously?
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# [08:40] <Mossop> It gets updated whenever the thing it observes changes IIRC
# [08:40] <hsivonen> Mossop: ok. do you happen to recall an example of a menuitem whose disabledness is computed when opening the menu?
# [08:41] <Mossop> Lots of the context menu
# [08:42] <Mossop> Looks like the text parts of the edit menu
# [08:42] <Mossop> page style menu
# [08:43] <Mossop> Just search this file for onpopupshowing http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser-menubar.inc
# [08:45] <hsivonen> Mossop: thanks
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# [08:58] <Yoric> Has something changed with xpcshell or mach during the last few days?
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# [09:04] <gaston> wheee \o/ fixed the crash on openbsd/ppc... was a pic issue with crtbegin/crtend system stuff
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# [09:14] <hsivonen> how do I find the possible values __ID_PREFIX__ can expand to? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser-charsetmenu.inc#7
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# [09:15] <hsivonen> apparently appmenu_ is one possible expansion
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# [09:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0951ef3bc4d - Eric Chou - Bug 815079 - notify DeviceStorage when a file is received and saved, r=dougt
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# [10:25] <NeilAway> hsivonen: <menuitem comand="..."> also gets computed upon menu opening
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# [10:28] <hsivonen> NeilAway: thanks. onpopupshowing solved my problem
# [10:29] <NeilAway> hsivonen: sometimes just to be confusing the popup showing code updates the command and then the menuitem updates from the command ;-)
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# [10:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/febf7b3ad731 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 663776. Part 0.5: Mark layers that could have their transforms changed via off-main-thread animations or empty transactions, and treat all ThebesLayerOGL
# [10:35] <firebot> descendants of such layers as potentially resampled so that their buffers are put into the correct state and size. r=mattwoodrow
# [10:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b11f6769b27 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 663776. Part 1: When determining whether the scale factors hav changed, we need to use GetBaseTransform for the old scale factors, because that's what stores the
# [10:35] <firebot> old transform that we computed scale factors from. r=mattwoodrow
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# [10:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b224adb34456 - Jonathan Kew - bug 819725 pt 1.1 - don't round device-pixel coordinates in nsView and nsXULWindow when calling widget APIs to move/resize windows. r=roc
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# [11:21] <marcoz> edmorley: Hi! Will the changes you just merged make it into today's nightly Android build? Or did that pick up a changeset before the merge?
# [11:21] <NeilAway> grrr
# [11:22] <Ms2ger> marcoz, most likely not
# [11:22] * NeilAway wishes people would put hg instead of tbpl "push" links
# [11:22] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, hey, do you have a string class that can return null from BeginReading?
# [11:23] <edmorley> marcoz: the nightlies are started at 3am PST, but the script pick the last push with all-green builds (just builds, not tests as well). It is probably 50:50 whether all platforms will complete by then. If it is something urgent I can cancel and retrigger, if that helps?
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# [11:24] <marcoz> edmorley: Ah OK! It's just that bug 817869 and bug 818343 were in this merge, and a nightly with those in would give me an additional day of testing. :)
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# [11:32] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, okay, how do I cheat? :)
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# [11:34] <Ms2ger> Meh
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# [12:42] <edmorley> marcoz: I've cancelled the nightlies and retriggered on mozilla-central tip
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# [12:44] <marcoz> edmorley: Thank you so much!
# [12:44] <edmorley> marcoz: np :-)
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# [12:54] <mak> is mxr not updating properly?
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# [12:56] <edmorley> mak: seems a bit slow the last few days
# [12:56] <mak> yeah, quite outdated for me, dxr is fine instead
# [12:57] <mak> I think it's behind by some days
# [12:58] <edmorley> grr nightly janking
# [12:58] <edmorley> bug 820585 for mxr it would seem
# [12:59] <mak> ah thx
# [12:59] * edmorley changes topic to 'MXR out of date: bug 820585 || Next merge: 7 January || New? Want to help? See #introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ , http://logbot.glob.com.au'
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# [13:01] <NeilAway> how do you tell mxr's revision?
# [13:01] <hsivonen> I love it when interface docs say “XXX Comment here!” for documentation
# [13:02] <NeilAway> hmm, c-c's mozilla clone seems to be stuck on the same rev
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# [13:09] <NeilAway> edmorley: ooh, it's 12:12
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# [13:09] <edmorley> 12:12 12/12/2012
# [13:09] <edmorley> nice
# [13:10] <gabor> any contractor from the EU here who happens to know the VIES VAT number of mozilla denmark? (or knows a channel where I could get it fast)
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# [13:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f99c04a0afc5 - Tom Schuster - Bug 812446 - Optimize str[double], str.char[Code]At(double). r=nbp
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# [13:35] <mak> gabor: DK31 25 2741
# [13:35] <gabor> mak++ thanks a lot!
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# [13:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ce14c9551fa - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 819412 - Test for Bug 733553 gets desynched under load r=joe
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# [13:50] <unknown_> Does anyone know why executin make doesn't recompile changed files
# [13:50] <unknown_> ?
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# [13:51] <unknown_> I modiffied a file in accessible and it says nothing to be done for '<folder ...>]
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# [13:53] <naoliv> bsmedberg: firefox hanged again here at FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE. Got a monster "thread apply all bt full" at http://people.debian.org/~naoliv/misc/gdb-firefox.txt
# [13:53] <naoliv> Can I provide more info?
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# [14:04] <NeilAway> unknown_: some files are platform-specific?
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# [14:06] <NeilAway> sadly the world mic testing day joke doesn't work so well in text format
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# [14:10] <gcp> ESR Firefox now gets "outdated browser" warnings on Google.
# [14:10] <unknown_> I found what was wrong, I forgot I had a problem and moved my mozilla-central repository to another location, and the makefiles had the same srcdir
# [14:11] <AutomatedTester> gcp: which ESR, for curiousity?
# [14:11] <gcp> 10.0.11 on linux
# [14:11] <AutomatedTester> gcp: interesting
# [14:11] <gcp> hmm, I see we have 17.0.1 now on the page
# [14:11] <gcp> together with 10.0.11
# [14:11] <gcp> what's the plan there?
# [14:12] <@smaug> there was some discussion about the ESR10 issue some time ago
# [14:12] <@smaug> with google, IIRCC
# [14:12] <pascalc> gcp, AFAIK, the latest ESR release is 17.0.1, there is a few weeks of overlap between ESR10 and ESR17 to allow them to do their migration I think
# [14:13] <AutomatedTester> gcp: where are you getting this?
# [14:13] <gcp> ok
# [14:13] <AutomatedTester> on Google Search?
# [14:13] <gcp> Google Drive
# [14:13] <gcp> This is new, I think.
# [14:13] * @smaug wants to get rid of ESR10 asap
# [14:13] <gcp> pascalc: ok, sounds cool. Debian stable seems to be on 10.0.11 still.
# [14:13] <gcp> well, debian unstable
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# [14:14] <pascalc> glandium probably knows more about Debian plans since he is still the Firefox/Iceweasel packager I think
# [14:15] <@smaug> do we know how much esr10 is used
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# [14:18] <edmorley> smaug: just over 1 mil ADUs last I saw mentioned somewhere
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# [14:20] <glandium> gcp: debian wheezy will be released with it, but backports will be provided for more recent versions
# [14:21] <gcp> any idea when it will hit unstable?
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# [14:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/634180132e68 - Ed Morley - Merge last PGO-green changeset of mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
# [14:22] <glandium> gcp: when debian wheezy is released. note 17 is in debian experimental, and other versions are available on http://mozilla.debian.net
# [14:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3b5e2392ea5 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
# [14:23] <gcp> glandium: thx!
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# [14:26] <gaston> glandium: how do you do for aurora ? you take the source tarballs from the nightly dir ?
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# [14:26] <glandium> gaston: there is no source tarball in the nightly dir
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# [14:27] <gaston> hmpf, right. so for debian, it's a clone of the aurora tree ?
# [14:27] <glandium> gaston: tarball from mercurial
# [14:27] <gaston> mkay
# [14:27] <glandium> gaston: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/archive/changeset.tar.bz2
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# [14:29] <gaston> ah, indeed that one. too bad its not stable/versionned with a date
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# [14:34] <gcp> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
# [14:34] <gcp> libmozjs19d xulrunner-19.0 libmozjs19d-dbg xulrunner-19.0-dbg iceweasel-dbg iceweasel
# [14:34] <gcp> why do I get that if I followed the instructions to add that key?
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# [14:35] <glandium> gcp: does apt-key list show the key?
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# [14:36] <gcp> -------------------------------------------------------
# [14:36] <gcp> pub 4096R/06C4AE2A 2010-11-20 [expires: 2019-11-13]
# [14:36] <gcp> uid Debian Mozilla team APT archive <pkg-mozilla-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
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# [14:37] <glandium> gcp: apt-get update
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# [14:43] <Callek> edmorley: did you see the bug I CC'ed you on yesterday evening where I also CC'ed ehsan -- because there was a merge by ehsan that missed at least one bug
# [14:43] <edmorley> yeah I replied
# [14:43] <Callek> edmorley: ahh ok
# [14:43] <edmorley> they'd used the wrong bug number
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# [14:43] <Callek> edmorley: *ahhhhh*
# [14:43] <edmorley> appreciate the heads up in case though :-)
# [14:43] <edmorley> Callek: it took me 3-4mins to notice to be fair :-)
# [14:44] <edmorley> last two digits were swapped or something
# [14:44] <Callek> edmorley: yea, when I saw a large merge and no comment on a bug I thought was part of it, I was like "hrm well thats odd, but I'm not about to scan through this whole merge list to see if its unique"
# [14:45] <edmorley> merges have been forgotten in the past
# [14:45] <edmorley> the marking of, that is
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# [14:46] <Callek> yea, exactly
# [14:46] <Callek> any process that a human does is subject to human error.
# [14:47] <Callek> any automated process a human does is subject to logic-errors, but luckily each logic error you fix lowers the chance of there being more [unless you're being additive to the process]
# [14:48] <edmorley> itym "It can only be attributable to human error."
# [14:49] <Callek> hehe
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# [14:50] <edmorley> it's ok, I won't get you to sing a song though... :-)
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# [15:41] <gaston> glandium: ah so you dont fetch 'changeset.tar.bz2', rather <rev>.tar.bz2 ?
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# [15:42] <gaston> okay, i see
# [15:42] <glandium> gaston: <changeset> if you want
# [15:42] <gaston> so for example
# [15:42] <gaston> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2012-11-14-04-20-11-mozilla-aurora/firefox-18.0a2.en-US.mac.txt
# [15:42] <gaston> -> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/archive/149ad5c9f94d.tar.bz2
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# [15:43] <gaston> from that you can get a date, and a source tarball with a constant checksum
# [15:43] <gaston> got it
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# [15:54] <gabor> windows build is completly borken on m-c
# [15:54] <gabor> I get this error: nsinstall: failed to create directory c:\development\mozilla\mozilla-central3\ob
# [15:54] <gabor> j-debug\security\c:\development\mozilla\mozilla-central3\security\dbm\src: [Erro
# [15:54] <gabor> r 123] The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect: u'c:\\
# [15:54] <gabor> development\\mozilla\\mozilla-central3\\obj-debug\\security\\c:'
# [15:55] <gabor> are there any bug open for it? it's really blocking me from doing any work :(
# [15:55] <edmorley> gabor: green on tbpl & first I've heard of it, can you bisect.file/please
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# [15:56] <decoder> espindola: "r169984 makes ASan + "-g" + gdb much more usable (I can now observe values of local variables and function arguments). I would be happy to hear from decoder.oh if it works for Firefox/Spidermonkey. Closing this issue for now. Feel free to file debug info problems or bugs as separate (hopefully, not major) issues. "
# [15:56] <gabor> edmorley: I just updated my second local repo and got the same error... but can be local ofc, it's the same machine after all... what is bisect.file?
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# [15:57] <edmorley> gabor: sorry, that was a typo, I meant "bisect/file, please"
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# [15:57] <gabor> edmorley: right, I'll do that
# [15:57] <yzen> paul: ping
# [15:57] <jdm> arrrrrrrgh
# [15:57] <jdm> threads
# [15:57] <jdm> whyyyyyyyyyyy
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# [15:58] <paul> yzen: pong
# [15:58] <yzen> paul: did you want me to update the argument name you mentioned in my patch ?
# [15:58] <yzen> yzen: re 803067
# [15:59] <yzen> paul: ^
# [15:59] <espindola> decoder, that is trunk only, right?
# [15:59] <decoder> espindola: yea I guess so
# [15:59] <paul> yzen: yes, please
# [15:59] <espindola> decoder, so, 3.2 should be out any time now and I really want to make sure it works with firefox
# [16:00] <espindola> ok if I move us back to trunk next week?
# [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/213b4178df8c - Mike Hommey - Bug 820724 - Add support for more elaborate expressions for Preprocessor.py. r=ted
# [16:00] <decoder> espindola: sure. it's not something we immediately required, but in the near future it would be nice to check that
# [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53c35671c6c2 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780448 - Add rules for generic python unit tests. r=ted
# [16:00] <decoder> esp. since debugging capabilities are important for developers to fix the bugs
# [16:00] <decoder> but next week is more than enough
# [16:00] <espindola> cool
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# [16:01] <NeilAway> gabor: how do you configure?
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# [16:02] <NeilAway> gabor: attachment 690804 hasn't merged yet
# [16:02] <gabor> NeilAway: so I'm using commands like this from obj dir: ../configure && python -O "..\build\pymake\make.py" -s -j6
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# [16:03] <NeilAway> gabor: yes, so you should be able to build inbound
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# [16:25] <NeilAway> smaug should write the manual for checkin comments
# [16:26] <espindola> decoder, reported 820837 to track it.
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# [16:26] <@smaug> NeilAway: heh :)
# [16:27] <@smaug> my review comments are perfect
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# [16:28] <NeilAway> smaug: better than your irc comments anyway :-P
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# [16:31] <decoder> espindola: thanks!
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# [16:45] <NeilAway> dao: so, do you advocate null-protection on all of our XBL setters?
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# [16:59] <Ms2ger> edmorley, who the hell is timing out all my tests? :(
# [17:00] <edmorley> yeah :-/
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# [17:00] <Ms2ger> That works for me
# [17:00] <Ms2ger> mounir!
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# [17:27] <@bz> OX_CFLAGS, eh?
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# [17:27] <ted> our build system is oxen powered
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# [17:27] <jcranmer> someone mistyped OS_CFLAGS Ithink
# [17:28] <@bz> Though needs a naval ensign instead of Europa....
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# [17:28] <RRubbyy> hello!
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# [17:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cf8797b8fc7 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 820769 - fix mozmake.py to generate correct common.mk include. r=jesup
# [17:30] <jlebar> froydnj: I wonder how many other things like that we have in our build.
# [17:30] <jlebar> froydnj: The rule of MemShrink has been, as soon as you start looking for a bug, you find it.
# [17:31] <@bz> You know the good news?
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# [17:31] <@bz> We're not in the nuclear reactor control software business
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# [17:32] <froydnj> yeah, they have Pu_CFLAGS
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# [17:33] <@bz> froydnj: I hope they have no CFLAGS at all.
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# [17:34] <@bz> HAh
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# [17:36] <@bz> vlad: Dark Matter Detector
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# [17:36] <vlad> ah
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# [17:37] <tbsaunde> bz: iirc langauges the NRC allows you to use are C++ fortrane ADA and asm
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# [17:38] <RRubbyy> So, I have very-very spevial question. And maybe someone give me a tip, how resolve it.
# [17:38] <RRubbyy> Is there any way to get caret position in FireFox window in screen coordinates? In W?indows
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# [17:38] <RRubbyy> Via WinAPI or somehow...
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# [17:39] <@bsmedberg> RRubbyy: as a web page, as an extension, or what?
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# [17:40] <RRubbyy> As destop app. WinAPI's function returns strange stuff
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# [17:41] <ted> because nothing firefox draws is an actual windows control
# [17:41] <ted> it's not windows drawing the caret
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# [17:42] <jimm> RRubbyy: use GetCaretPos plus ClientToScreen
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# [17:43] <gaston> https://github.com/CoderDojo/CoderDojo-Kata/pull/1/files
# [17:43] <ted> ugh
# [17:43] <ted> i've been seeing a really annoying click-to-play bug recently
# [17:43] <ted> guess i should file it
# [17:43] <jimm> ted: don't we set the caret position for imes and the like?
# [17:43] <ted> jimm: oh, i don't know
# [17:43] <ted> i open a new window, click-to-play the plugin, and it brings another window into focus
# [17:43] <RRubbyy> Yes. FireFox have only one overlapped window and no child.
# [17:43] <ted> pretty annoying
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# [17:44] <RRubbyy> Is there a way to ask from outside where caret blinks now?
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# [17:44] <ted> i would trust jimm more than myself here
# [17:45] <gfritzsche> ted: haven't seen that yet, please file
# [17:45] <ted> gfritzsche: okay
# [17:45] <jimm> RRubbyy: if GetCaretPos doesn't return valid info, probably not
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# [17:46] <RRubbyy> jimm: GetCaretPos return always the same.
# [17:46] <jimm> hmm, you might be able to use accessible apis to get the position
# [17:46] <ted> a11y APIs might work, but enabling a11y is almost always a perf hit
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# [17:49] <RRubbyy> "accessible apis" "a11y APIs" ? I don't clearly understand it(
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# [17:52] <jimm> ted: tp tests didn't show much of a hit - bug 778493
# [17:52] <jimm> on win8 tablets a11y is always on so it's something we'll need to work on.
# [17:53] <jimm> RRubbyy: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff486375%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
# [17:54] <ted> interesting
# [17:54] <jimm> RRubbyy: the people in #accessibility can help
# [17:54] <RRubbyy> ok. Thank)
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# [17:56] <RRubbyy> and just one question. Does FireFox use SEndMessge( hwnd, wm_user+123, ...) or it use some internal mechanism of data exchange?
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# [17:59] <jimm> RRubbyy: fx doesn't use windows messaging internally to hand around data.
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# [18:05] <RRubbyy> well... There is no way to get what I want correctly...
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# [18:09] <Waldo> 12:12:12 12/12/12!
# [18:09] <JonathanS> Waldo, OH MY!!!!!!!!
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# [18:10] <glandium> Waldo: it was 6 hours ago
# [18:10] <smontagu> would be even better in time zone +1200
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# [18:11] <Waldo> :-P
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# [18:11] <RRubbyy> There is no End of Time! We still alive!!
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# [18:13] <JonathanS> longsonr, myth
# [18:13] <RRubbyy> All what i can is just ask some developer to implement this feature in some next release... Or it's too complicated? And fx absolutely not cooperate with windows except file system?
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# [18:13] <JonathanS> patches are welcome :)
# [18:13] <longsonr> Has anybody noticed that Linux try server unit/reftests seem to be not running?
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# [18:16] <sfink> longsonr: you mean 32-bit linux?
# [18:16] <mbrubeck> longsonr: Looks like there's a long queue... http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/pending.html
# [18:16] <mbrubeck> (bottom-most graph)
# [18:16] <mbrubeck> and only 12 running... http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/running.html
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# [18:17] <longsonr> is 12 unusually low?
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# [18:18] <longsonr> yes 32-bit linux
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# [18:31] <jesup> ted: when I worked at C=, all our dev docs and the licenses in the end-user stuff said you were not allowed to use it to run nuclear reactors. Really. Of course, they used Amigas to launch GPS satellites among other things and military spysats (I believe) at from Cape Kennedy
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# [18:32] <Ms2ger> jesup, yeah, Opera has the same restriction
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# [18:34] <jesup> In case of a meltdown, it's comforting to point out they were violating the shrinkwrap EULA :-/
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# [18:35] <ted> nice
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# [18:35] <ted> CYA legally anyway
# [18:35] <ted> which is all anyone cares about
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# [18:35] <jesup> The lawyer was happy
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> And that's all that matters for EULAs
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# [18:37] <vasi> Are there guidelines about when class members/methods should be private vs. protected?
# [18:37] <jesup> He approved the legal block for the library reference manual with this in it: "Reading legal mush can turn your brain to guacamole!" - Amiga ROM Kernel Reference Manual: Includes & Autodocs, 2nd edition (http://wiki.osdev.org/Licensing)
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# [18:38] <ted> haha
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# [18:38] <jesup> http://www.anvari.org/fortune/Miscellaneous_Collections/214627_reading-legal-mush-can-turn-your-brain-to-guacamole-amiga-rom-kernel-manual.html
# [18:38] <ted> all the government facilities i ever saw were very SGI-heavy
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# [18:38] <ted> even in ~2003
# [18:39] <Ms2ger> Saskatchewan driver's licensing and vehicle registration?
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> Oh, bah, CSS animations fire events... I guess I get to review those
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# [18:44] <Mossop> jimm-lunch: Where are we moving the test plugin to?
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# [18:47] <Ms2ger> Mossop, Mordor
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# [18:49] <@khuey> one does not just move the test plugin to mordor
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# [18:50] <@bsmedberg> The test plugin brings mordor to itself.
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# [18:51] <jhammel> khuey++
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# [18:51] <jhammel> though make a mozillameme or it never happened
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# [18:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5eed31150f2 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 820612 - remove docs.manifest from mozilla-central;r=wlach DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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# [18:58] <gps> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=421ea4f8b050 can be merged to m-c, right?
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# [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29df94c927f8 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 820606 - update mozfile on mozilla-central to version 0.1;r=gps
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# [18:59] <nemo> huh. since when did setting body { cursor: } stop working in firefox?
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# [18:59] <nemo> doesn't work in stable either? Oo
# [18:59] <nemo> and no CSS warning messages :(
# [19:00] <gps> edmorley: I'm going to merge 29df94c927f8 into m-c
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# [19:01] <@bz> nemo: worskforme
# [19:01] <@bz> er, worksforme
# [19:01] <nemo> bz: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase298.xhtml
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# [19:01] <nemo> bz: first noticed it on a map page that used to work before
# [19:01] <nemo> tested in linux and windows
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# [19:02] <@bz> nemo: Worksforme on Mac
# [19:02] <nemo> bleah
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# [19:02] <@bz> nemo: Does "cursor: pointer" work for you on Linux/Windows?
# [19:02] <@bz> nemo: As in, is it just image cursors that are a problem?
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# [19:02] <nemo> bz: I don't even see the crosshair
# [19:03] <nemo> on the test page
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# [19:03] <nemo> doesn't seem to work on the mac either
# [19:03] <@bz> uh
# [19:03] <nemo> but this is an old nightly
# [19:03] <nemo> updating now
# [19:03] <@bz> I see it fine
# [19:03] <@bz> When I hover over the text
# [19:03] <@bz> Or to the right of it.
# [19:03] <nemo> oups
# [19:03] <nemo> lol
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# [19:03] <@bz> As in, actually over the body.
# [19:03] <nemo> I was expecting it on the entire page
# [19:03] <nemo> ok. still broken in windows
# [19:03] <@bz> Well, you were expecting wrong. ;)
# [19:03] <nemo> but "WFM" on the mac
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# [19:04] <nemo> and broken in linux
# [19:04] <@bz> OK
# [19:04] <@bz> Odd
# [19:04] <@bz> File bugs if not filed?
# [19:04] <nemo> btw. on the mac there's this weird thing when I'm on the rest of the page. there's a big black and white cursor pointer
# [19:04] <nemo> and as I move, a small black cursor under it kind jumps to follow
# [19:04] <nemo> but laggy
# [19:04] <nemo> as if firefox is drawing is own cursor under the system cursor or something
# [19:04] <gps> edmorley: I delayed merging foo
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# [19:05] <nemo> bz: hm. strange tho that cursor isn't applied to all of body. I set a min-height: 100%...
# [19:05] <nemo> firebug disagrees w/ me on the body dimensions tho
# [19:05] <nemo> oh well. bugs bugs bugs
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# [19:07] <@bz> nemo: 100% of auto is auto
# [19:07] <@bz> nemo: so....
# [19:07] <nemo> I mean, the linear gradient shows the body is extending correctly
# [19:07] <@bz> nemo: no
# [19:07] <@bz> nemo: backgrounds on body are special-cased in the spec to propagate to the viewport
# [19:07] <nemo> oh
# [19:08] <nemo> oups
# [19:08] <nemo> fiiine
# [19:08] <@bz> nemo: if there is no background on <html>, at least
# [19:08] <@bz> nemo: if there is, then it's a different story.
# [19:09] <Ms2ger> Go us
# [19:09] <Mook_as> nemo: fwiw, it doesn't work for me, because noscript adds funny css.
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# [19:10] <Mook_as> needs something like data:text/html,<style>body{cursor:pointer;outline:1px dotted red;}</style><body id>aa
# [19:11] <nemo> Mook_as: ohoh....
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# [19:11] <nemo> but I was testing last night in my nightly w/o noscript!
# [19:11] <Mook_as> dunno, I'm on release :p
# [19:11] <nemo> on the other hand, I might have been screwing up something else back then like min-height
# [19:11] <nemo> :D
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# [19:12] <nemo> hehe
# [19:12] <nemo> ok. combination of my fail at understanding height of body, + noscript to follow up
# [19:12] <nemo> oh noscript. sometimes you're awesome, sometimes you make me fail so badly
# [19:12] <nemo> hm. wonder why noscript would block url cursors
# [19:13] <nemo> also. odd that it didn't fall back to the pointer
# [19:13] <nemo> er. the crosshair
# [19:13] <nemo> time to bug him.
# [19:13] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: it would be hard to build and test B2G for a powerful ARM device because of drivers?
# [19:13] <nemo> bsmedberg: want b2g on my chromebook! :)
# [19:13] <jlebar> bsmedberg: I don't know what's involved, but it's not a situation we're testing right now, so I doubt it works properly.
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# [19:13] <nemo> well. mostly just to see how it does
# [19:14] <@bsmedberg> hrm
# [19:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ef53b8f1ff6 - Dan Mosedale - Bug 820559: Workaround old Android gcc build-bustage by casting anonymous enum template args to ints, r=ekr
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# [19:14] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: can we assume that this crash is ARM-specific, or would valgrind runs of B2G Linux desktop builds be useful?
# [19:14] <@bsmedberg> or device-graphics-specific in some other way, I guess...
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# [19:15] <jlebar> bsmedberg: I dont' know if this crash is ARM-specific. It seems likely that it's somehow B2G-specific, but that's about all I know.
# [19:15] <jlebar> bsmedberg: given how hard it is to reproduce, I'm not sure valgrind builds on desktop are worth the effort. Desktop builds themselves are quite unstable, because we don't test there either.
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# [19:21] <romaxa> jst: are you familiar with nsExceptionService impl? practically about what this warning http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/base/nsExceptionService.cpp#166 means?
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# [19:22] <romaxa> jst: I'm getting that on XPCOMShutdown all the time and Observe->Shutdown->sLock = NULL -> DestroyThread -> Warning..
# [19:23] <romaxa> jst: should I call ExceptionService::DropAllThreads manually before XPCOMShutdown?
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# [19:33] <gregglind> does there exist a "string of xul xml -> xul object" function / api?
# [19:34] <gregglind> So I don't have to build it up node by node?
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# [19:34] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: do you know which thread it is?
# [19:34] <@bsmedberg> I see that all the time too, and I think it indicates a shutdown ordering bug
# [19:35] <gregglind> (never mind, will try this: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2178881
# [19:35] <@khuey> gregglind: DOMParser?
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# [19:36] <gregglind> khuey, that is exactly what is linked :) I was having search term failure.
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# [19:36] <@khuey> gregglind: you have to make sure to initialize it with a chrome principal though
# [19:36] <@khuey> since content can't do XUL anymore
# [19:36] * @khuey hasn't looked at the thread, it may mention that
# [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd712828cb47 - EKR - Bug 820671 Make PCImpl a tombstone if mMedia is null r=jesup
# [19:37] <gregglind> noted. That much I can handle (it's in chrome context), but good caveat, khuey.
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# [19:45] <edmorley> gps: sorry was afk since hosting event at london office this evening; what wanted merging?
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# [19:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9864b72730b - Ethan Hugg - Bug 820550 - Signaling - stop checking API state in CloseInt r=ekr
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# [19:53] <dbuc> im seeing some interesting, silent mouse event failures in Aurora and Nightly, is there a known issue outstanding?
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# [19:56] <krishnasurfeasy> I've got a warning being treated as an error while building Firefox. Here's the build output:
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# [19:56] <krishnasurfeasy> cc1plus: warnings being treated as errors
# [19:56] <gaston> you have -pedantic or -Werror in your compile flags
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# [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/239f4371a480 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806929: "Open in new private tab" for awesomebar entries. [r=mfinkle]
# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8c8bebfed40 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 806929: "Open in new private tab" for context-menus. [r=mfinkle]
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# [19:57] <Waldo> note that there are some warnings we've promoted to errors, like for falling off the end of a function that returns non-void
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# [19:58] <krishnasurfeasy> gaston: yes, -Werror. I'm using ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors
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# [19:58] <Austin__> Waldo: so -Werror=return… is enabled even if you don't do —enable-warnings-as-errors?
# [19:59] <Austin__> (I work with Krishna and did the initial work on our build scripts.)
# [19:59] <Waldo> Austin__: yes; MSVC complains about that one in particular, loudly enough, that I think we added it for compiler parity
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# [19:59] <krishnasurfeasy> gaston: building on Mac OS Lion.
# [19:59] <Waldo> might also have been we thought that particular warning always indicated something truly awful and so deserved promotion regardless
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# [20:00] <Austin__> The warning/error we're seeing is in WebGLContextGL.cpp and it's sort of around a comparison bug. Krishna, can you paste in the warning message for that specifically?
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# [20:01] <krishnasurfeasy> "/Firefox-MacOSX-develop/mozilla-release/content/canvas/src/WebGLContextGL.cpp:423: warning: comparison is always false due to limited range of data type"
# [20:01] <gaston> maybe a type/cast issue specific to osx ?
# [20:01] <Austin__> gaston: it appears to be—what's weird is that it's a upcast to 64-bit to avoid an always true comparison.
# [20:01] <krishnasurfeasy> gaston: seems like it.
# [20:01] <Austin__> so now it's always false (?!?)
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# [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e99c10c00c6 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 818071: Replace private browsing resources for address bar background. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbab3c2be10e - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 818071: Replace private browsing resources for tabs-button. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eea53f54447d - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 818071: Replace private browsing resources for the url-bar. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a885614b4b33 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 818071: Replace private browsing resource for about:home background. [r=mfinkle]
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# [20:04] <Austin__> I've got two questions, then: (1) is there a good place to find good defaults for building the firefox browser the same way as Mozilla does (on both Mac & Windows); the last time we updated our internal build was with ff13 and we're trying to do ff17 (17.0.1); and (2) where would I find build log files for 17.0.1 to see if this warning was printed out on the Mozilla build, or if it might be an environmental problem on our part
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# [20:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec65853affc8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Remove two extra instances of whenNewWindowLoaded, no bug
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# [20:08] <froydnj> jesup: ping
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# [20:08] <gaston> Austin__: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Release has all the logs
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# [20:09] <Austin__> thank you very much, gaston.
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# [20:11] <gaston> Austin__: as for the defaults options used for release builds, they're in the mozconfig's stored somewhere in hg
# [20:11] <Austin__> yeah…I just don't remember where that was and I think I forgot to write it down.
# [20:11] <Ms2ger> jdm, fyi: http://ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2010-09-09/backing-out-multiple-consecutive-changesets-mercurial
# [20:12] <Austin__> gaston, how do I get to the build logs; I can see the check-ins nicely. I'm looking for the build machine output on the mac.
# [20:12] <gaston> Austin__: i "think" the configs are in https://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/
# [20:13] <gaston> Austin__: there should be green boxes on the right for each builds in tbpl
# [20:13] <gaston> for each arch/etc
# [20:13] <dholbert> gaston, I think they're stored in mozilla-central now, actually
# [20:13] <dholbert> the mozconfigs, I mean
# [20:13] <dholbert> in https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/config/mozconfigs/
# [20:13] <gaston> Austin__: scroll a bit below; the tagging changesets are done with DONTBUILD
# [20:14] <gaston> dholbert: oh, nice didnt know that - are those the ones used in productio n?
# [20:14] <dholbert> gaston, I believe so... not 100% sure though
# [20:14] <Austin__> Ah. so the one that I want would be ef7dd6… by Mark Hammond?
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# [20:15] <Ms2ger> nrc, my compiler was happy to catch them for me :)
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# [20:15] <dholbert> Austin__, one other quick-and-easy way to see the config options used in release builds is to just visit "about:buildconfig" in a release build
# [20:15] <gaston> Austin__: if not exctly that one it should be really close. i'm not 100% sure the published release builds are under tbpl
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# [20:16] <Ms2ger> njn++
# [20:17] <Austin__> *nod.
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# [20:18] <Austin__> thanks, everyone. I think we can figure it out from here; we can probably get by just by taking out the ac option that does -Werror, but I'd like to understand whether this is an "acceptable" warning.
# [20:18] <dholbert> Austin__, what warning are you wondering about being acceptible or not?
# [20:18] <dholbert> *acceptable
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# [20:19] <Austin__> dholbert: a cast warning from WebGLContextGL.cpp; if you're able to look back, my colleague krishnasurfeasy pasted in the exact error message.
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# [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d575fe59b2f1 - Hubert Figuière - Backed out changeset 36aa0c7486e1 as it was checked in on beta by mistake. a=akeybl
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# [20:21] <Austin__> I do have one other question about what I'm looking at: what does OS X 10.7 opt B M(1 2 3 4 5 bc oth) R(C J R) X T(di dr os tp) mean on a build log?
# [20:21] <Austin__> Obviously, it's a 10.7 optimized. But I don't know what the linked logs are for…
# [20:21] <dholbert> Austin__, those are for test runs. See "Help" link in upper-left corner
# [20:22] <dholbert> Austin__, RE that warning, I wouldn't worry about it, as long as it's not from a change you introduced.
# [20:22] <Ms2ger> Austin__, except for the B, which is the build
# [20:22] <@ehsan> jdm_: would you expect this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806725#c2
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# [20:23] <Austin__> dholbert: somehow I missed the help link. Thanks. and re: the warning, too. I think that's the only warning that I'm seeing and it's not a file that we've modified.
# [20:23] <dholbert> Austin__, I don't see the line of code your warning is referring to -- mozilla-release tip doesn't show any comparison at or around line 423 in https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/file/tip/content/canvas/src/WebGLContext.cpp#l423 (line 423 is actually a comment there)
# [20:24] <dholbert> Austin__, you're probably just building with a newer GCC version than we use for release builds, then
# [20:24] <dholbert> Austin__, and your newer GCC version warns about that, whereas the one we use for release builds (gcc-4.5) doesn't
# [20:25] <Austin__> I think we're on 4.5 as well.
# [20:25] <Austin__> krishnasurfeasy can answer that specifically, for sure.
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# [20:25] <dholbert> oh, that's slightly more worrisome then
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# [20:25] <jdm_> ehsan: no, that worries me
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# [20:26] <Austin__> dholbert: different file, though: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/file/tip/content/canvas/src/WebGLContextGL.cpp#l423
# [20:26] <@ehsan> jdm_: can you please look into that and confirm that it happens?
# [20:26] <jdm_> yep
# [20:26] <@ehsan> ty
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# [20:26] <dholbert> Austin__, ah, ok
# [20:26] <krishnasurfeasy> g++-4.2
# [20:27] <Waldo> erm, we don't support building with 4.2 any more, do we?
# [20:27] <froydnj> no, we do not
# [20:27] <Ms2ger> Nope
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# [20:32] <@bz> Anyone seen heycam?
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# [20:32] <@ehsan> Waldo: we broke it intentionally
# [20:32] <Waldo> yeah, that's what I thought
# [20:32] <Waldo> do we not have a configure version-checking requirement?
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# [20:32] <Waldo> 'cause that seems like something we clearly should be doing
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> bz, do we have a spec for window-properties-on-window-not-window.__proto__ already?
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# [20:33] <Waldo> Object.getPrototypeOf(window)
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> Waldo, this one is shorter
# [20:33] <Waldo> and stupider
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# [20:34] <Ms2ger> Waldo, yw
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# [20:35] <@ehsan> Waldo: that doesn't sound like us, we usually strive to let you know that your compiler is not supported towards the end of the build :P
# [20:35] <Waldo> one thing's for sure, we'll never have a lack of cynicism around here :-)
# [20:35] <Austin__> Waldo, froydnj: Do you guys know why 4.2 is no longer supported?
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# [20:35] <Ms2ger> Austin__, because it's ancient, buggy and unsupported
# [20:35] <Waldo> Austin__: it's super-old and a pain to support, and we want new language stuff, etc.
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# [20:37] <Waldo> agreed, there is some pretty good stuff at https://twitter.com/wwejoshmathews
# [20:38] <@ehsan> Waldo: he looks like a dork in that suite
# [20:38] <@ehsan> *wuit
# [20:38] <@ehsan> dammit
# [20:38] <@ehsan> *suit
# [20:38] <@ehsan> better not land anything today!
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# [20:38] <Austin__> thank you guys very much.
# [20:38] <krishnasurfeasy> thanks a lot guys.
# [20:39] <froydnj> ehsan: hg omit? :)
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# [20:39] <gaston> ehsan: Waldo: pretty sure there is a configure check bailing out on gcc 4.2 since fx 18
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# [20:40] <@ehsan> froydnj: I'm more worried about the contents of my commits ;)
# [20:40] <@ehsan> gaston: oh good!
# [20:40] <gaston> gcc 4.2 is still supported for fx 17 though, it was only dropped on 18
# [20:40] <@ehsan> Austin__: ^
# [20:40] <Austin__> ah. that's even better.
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# [20:40] <spohl> if I'd like to check if [NSEvent isSwipeTrackingFromScrollEventsEnabled] == YES in browser.js, how should I do that..?
# [20:41] <Austin__> so we can defer the problem that upgrading gcc causes us until later.
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# [20:41] <gaston> Austin__: or just ditch gcc and switch to clang :)
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# [20:42] <Austin__> gaston: eventually, yes. we're trying to build FF and our own code with the same compiler, so…
# [20:42] <Austin__> and we want C++11 goodness, too.
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# [20:42] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you made it for porn?!
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# [20:44] <gaston> 2946 MOZ_GCC_PR49911
# [20:44] <gaston> 2947 MOZ_GCC_PR39608
# [20:44] <gaston> 2948 MOZ_LLVM_PR8927
# [20:44] <gaston> i think it's those lines of configure.in in m-c that rules out gcc 4.2
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# [20:51] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: no, engagement rings man!
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# [20:51] <@ehsan> that is all the use cases that I intended
# [20:52] <@ehsan> not sure about jdm_'s motives though
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# [20:53] <jdm_> :o
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# [20:54] <Mossop> jimm: Where is the test plugin moving to?
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# [20:56] <jimm> Mossop: although tinderbox scripts still move it to the same location for tests, under the firefox/plugins dir.
# [20:56] <jimm> dist/plugins is where the build will put it
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# [20:59] <jimm> Mossop: every platform needed some updating. Here's the current try rev that looks like it will pass and also passes local mac/win runs: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/e35f03eae0f1
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# [21:01] <jimm> Mossop: since local builds can place the obj directory anywhere, seems like a rather unreliable test.
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# [21:14] <jlebar> froydnj: a k
# [21:14] <jlebar> erm, ack
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# [21:16] <jlebar> froydnj: I'm going to go out to get lunch in a minute; if you don't catch me, I'll ping again when I get back.
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# [21:19] <sfink> y'know, having only 2 states for a tab to be in ('loading', 'loaded') is kinda retro. I want a settable third option 'loaded but connection to server is live, last I knew, and I'll be updating as things happen'. And maybe one for 'oh crap, disconnected.' Script-settable so it can be correct even if the updates are timer-triggered polls.
# [21:20] <froydnj> jlebar|away: filed bug 802991 in your absence, was going to ask about b2g in this respect, but you can comment in the bug if you like
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# [21:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1eedc9864f2d - Rik Cabanier - Bug 809927: Add new blend modes and implement them for Direct2D. r=bas
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# [21:30] <seth> jdm: argh. i dunno man. ideally imgStatusTracker _would_ know about the Image, and _would not_ know about the request. seems like the only way the request is used by imgStatusTracker (other than grabbing the Image from it in certain circumstances) is for async notifications, presumably so that if a new sub image within a multipart image arrives and we've replaced the imgStatusTracker, the notification is guaranteed to be delivered by the mo
# [21:30] <seth> up-to-date imgStatusTracker
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# [21:31] <seth> jdm: do we actually care about that? more to the point, does that even make sense? (since it means notifications from the old part will appear to come from the new part, AFAICT)
# [21:31] <jdm> seth: multipart images is outside my area of knowledge, unfortunately, so I can't give a good answer at this time
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# [21:35] <seth> fair enough
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# [21:35] <@smaug> akeybl: I should have been faster. I was compiling the patch for Bug 761448 when you changed the flag. :)
# [21:35] <seth> joe: comment on the above?
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# [21:36] <seth> i'll fill a bug if this isn't a nonstarter
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# [21:36] <joe> seth: can you restate what you want to do? it's not 100% clear to me
# [21:37] <seth> joe: i want imgStatusTracker to not know which request it's associated with
# [21:37] <espindola> ehsan: so, we are already using -dead_strip, right?
# [21:37] <joe> it would get the request from the image?
# [21:37] <@ehsan> espindola: yes but that's not what I want
# [21:37] <@ehsan> espindola: I want code folding, dead_strip eliminates dead code
# [21:38] <seth> joe: well, what i'm trying to figure out is: is there any reason it needs the request at all?
# [21:38] <espindola> oh, I see
# [21:38] <@ehsan> espindola: and it truns out that the mac linker doesn't support code folding
# [21:38] <espindola> no, I don't think ld64 has icf
# [21:38] <@ehsan> espindola: do you know if we get folding using LTO?
# [21:38] <joe> seth: it needs to be able to send delayed notifications, and it will (in the near future with multithreaded decoding) need to do that a lot
# [21:38] <seth> joe: it seems to use it only for two things: to get the image if the imgRequest hasn't handed it over yet (which seems like something that can be resolved) and as part of the async notification mechanism (which doesn't seem needed unless the particular semantics there are critical)
# [21:38] <akeybl> smaug: ;)
# [21:38] <espindola> ehsan: there is a pass, but it never got completed or enable by default
# [21:39] <joe> async notification is definitely critical
# [21:39] <@ehsan> espindola: ouch
# [21:39] <joe> it's the whole reason that imgStatusTracker exists :)
# [21:39] <jduell> jdm: have you seen https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=fc7c3e025098 ? Looks like we need to disable more tests.
# [21:39] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: ^
# [21:39] <espindola> I do remember it being able to handle things like vector<long> and vector<int>
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# [21:39] <jlebar|away> froydnj: Is that the right bug? If so, it's security-sensitive, and I can't see it.
# [21:39] <@ehsan> oh god
# [21:39] <@ehsan> *good
# [21:39] <espindola> so it shouldn't be too hard to update it
# [21:39] <jduell> I can do it if you haven't gotten to it yet
# [21:39] <jdm> jduell: yep. I'll be on it shortly.
# [21:39] <jdm> you are also welcome to do it.
# [21:39] <@ehsan> espindola: this came up while discussing nsTArray<nsCOMPtr<Foo>>
# [21:39] <seth> joe: sure, i'm not saying async notification is not needed. i'm saying that all imgStatusTracker does with the request when performing async notifications is call mRequest->GetStatusTracker()
# [21:39] <jduell> jdm: I'll take a look
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# [21:40] <seth> joe: imgRequestNotifyRunnable _could_ just hold on to the imgStatusTracker directly
# [21:40] <joe> yes
# [21:40] <joe> that feels better to me
# [21:40] <seth> joe: the question is if the subtly changed semantics there matter
# [21:40] <jrmuizel> ehsan: :(
# [21:40] <joe> no, I don't think so
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# [21:40] <seth> joe: cool, then this seems doable. i'll file a bug
# [21:41] <joe> in particular, multipart images are afaict in-order
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# [21:41] <seth> joe: yeah, that seems like the only case that could possibly be affected
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# [21:42] <@ehsan> BenWa: what's ENABLE_SPS_LEAF_DATA?
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# [21:43] <seth> joe: this is all that is keeping me from posting the new version of media fragments BTW. it works really nicely now but my current hack of storing the image only on the imgRequest is unsafe - i need to do it right
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# [21:44] <BenWa> ehsan: I means that in pseudostack we will try to tack on the PC when we stop
# [21:45] <BenWa> ehsan: It's not supported on all platforms and now will only happen on demand
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# [21:45] <@ehsan> BenWa: I'm confused. your patch never defines it
# [21:46] <BenWa> ehsan: It's pre-existing
# [21:46] <BenWa> ! ENABLE_SPS_LEAF_DATA means we don't support leaf addresses
# [21:46] <@ehsan> oh
# [21:46] <@ehsan> heh
# [21:46] <@ehsan> ok
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# [21:47] <BenWa> so when it's supported it's reported. And now I make it so that it must additionally be requested
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# [21:47] <@ehsan> BenWa: I wanted to nit on #if defined, but I feel generous today
# [21:47] <froydnj> jlebar|away: whoops, 820991
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# [21:48] <BenWa> ehsan: Isn't that style better because you don't have to change it when you want to add a logic to the ifdef?
# [21:48] <BenWa> That's why I prefer it
# [21:48] <@ehsan> BenWa: no, I don't think so...
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# [21:49] <@ehsan> cause it always makes me think what am I missing
# [21:49] <@ehsan> and why is this not a simple #ifdef
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# [21:49] <@ehsan> but I won't insist on everybody agree with me on this
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# [21:54] <jdm> ehsan: can you think of a reason that setting browser.startup.page to 0 at the start of a test would not appear to affect the behaviour of opening new windows?
# [21:54] <@ehsan> jdm: opening new private windows?
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# [21:55] <jdm> ehsan: yes.
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# [21:55] <@ehsan> jdm: sure, the reason is that we ignore your home page settings ;)
# [21:55] <@ehsan> and load about:pb unconditionally
# [21:55] <jdm> ehsan: well, also non-private windows
# [21:55] <@ehsan> huh
# [21:55] <jdm> ehsan: this is the same stuff we use in lots of tests
# [21:55] <@ehsan> hmmm
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# [21:55] <jdm> remember how it was brekaing tings?
# [21:55] <@ehsan> so what did 0 mean again?
# [21:55] <@ehsan> yeah I do
# [21:56] <jdm> 0 means about:blank
# [21:56] <gaston> hmm there's no marketplace app taking advantage of getusermedia yet ?
# [21:56] <@ehsan> jdm: how do you open your window?
# [21:56] <@ted> gaston: it's pref'ed off by default still
# [21:56] <gaston> even on aurora/android ?
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# [21:57] <@ted> i think on android you can use it to take a picture
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# [21:58] <jesup> Anyone know what might have borked my windows build setup? I mean, other than the obvious "I allowed WIndows Update to update VS 2010" last night? :-/ I have the classic "C compiler cannot create executables" now every time I try to build (pymake)
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# [21:59] <gaston> media.navigator.enabled is true on my aurora; still gotta find a test page/app
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# [22:00] <jesup> gaston: see the topic in #media
# [22:00] <jesup> Oh, wait, Aurora
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# [22:01] <jesup> the API changed since then. We need an older copy of those. (might be in the github repo there; not sure when it moved over)
# [22:01] <@ehsan> jdm: fwiw, running one test standalone doesn't mean much if you're interested to see whether the test fails or passes
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# [22:01] <jdm> I just want to see it pass when run alone :/
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# [22:02] <jimm> johns: on the web site in question I had selected "never activate" from the popup
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# [22:02] <jesup> gaston: aha, even more (reading backscroll): you're looking to use picture: true on Android. There were samples on bugs. bug 691234?
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# [22:03] <jesup> gaston: you can ask anant in #media
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# [22:05] <gaston> jesup: anant's gum_test.html page does a 404 :) oh well i'll retry later, was just curious about it
# [22:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e689241c7283 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 815937 - Give the search suggestion row its own view type. r=lucasr a=akeybl
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# [22:07] <billm> Bas: ping
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# [22:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d6f209c9067 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 801646 - Use private state of parent when opening new tabs. r=mfinkle
# [22:07] <billm> Bas: in case you didn't see it, your push is red
# [22:07] <jesup> gaston: anant doesn't work at mozilla any more; his user-pages were turned off. I'm sure he has it and we can put it back up on the landing page
# [22:08] <NeilAway> hmm, is there a way of notifying an nsTObserverArray<nsCOMPtr<T> > ?
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# [22:10] <Bas> Ugh, sorry
# [22:10] <Bas> pushing a follow-up.
# [22:11] <jib> Hi people building Nightly under Windows! It stopped working for me. It builds but I get "Couldn't load XPCOM." error immediately when I try to run it. Anyone seen this before and know what I did wrong?
# [22:11] <jdm> jib: my first inclination would be to delete your objdir and build again
# [22:12] <jib> jdm: did that already
# [22:12] <jib> I downloaded and installed the Nightly using the public installer the other day. Do you think that messed something up in the registry?
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# [22:12] <bhearsum> are there any prefs that will let raw request/response bodies be logged into the error console or elsewhere?
# [22:12] <avih> where do i start in exposing (to chrome javascript) some functionality of the refresh driver of a top level content document?
# [22:13] <bhearsum> or any other way to make that happen at runtime
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# [22:13] <jdm> bhearsum: right click on the web console entries, choose log request
# [22:13] <bhearsum> jdm: sorry - i mean something that can be done through automation
# [22:13] <jdm> heh
# [22:13] <bhearsum> a pref, command line flag, etc.
# [22:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/edd575426780 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 814952) because it breaks the build
# [22:14] <bhearsum> and i'm looking to log requests that the update service makes, too, so i'm not sure the web console would work anyways!
# [22:15] <Bas> ehsan: Ugh, I was -almost- in time.
# [22:15] <jdm> bhearsum: NetworkMonitor.saveRequestAndResponseBodies is the pref for the web console, but that doesn't sound like it will help
# [22:15] <bhearsum> that would still only happen in the context of a specific tab, i guess?
# [22:15] * bhearsum tries
# [22:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2b5567fe14a - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 817122 - Disable failing B2G xpcshell tests, enable debugger tests, r=mdas
# [22:16] <johns> jimm: Re-selecting "always ask" should revert to default behavior, right?
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# [22:16] <@ehsan> Bas: oh sorry thought you might be asleep now!!!
# [22:16] <Bas> ehsan: No problem :) I'll test my fix first on try now anyway, probably for the better :)
# [22:16] <@ehsan> cool
# [22:16] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [22:17] <bhearsum> jdm: didn't work - but thanks anyways!
# [22:17] <Bas> ehsan: I think this is just GCC not being smart enough (or something obscure in the spec), I suspect a .get() will fix it.
# [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c940923e0efc - Bill McCloskey - Bug 819443 - Make sure we don't finalize on background thread (r=luke)
# [22:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97addca5ceae - Bill McCloskey - Bug 819443 - Fix some enums (r=terrence)
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# [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ce57f5cca0b - Brian Nicholson - Bug 820576 - Part 2: Open URL for suggestions that look like URLs. r=mfinkle
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# [22:19] <@ehsan> Bas: who can say!
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# [22:25] <jimm> johns: I suppose, that's what was set, so it seems the check box and the internal setting might be off.
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# [22:27] <johns> jimm: Okay yeah I can reproduce that, definitely a bug :(
# [22:27] <johns> jimm: I'll file and CC you
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# [22:30] <johns> jimm: A workaround is going to about:permissions and hitting "forget about this site" to wipe all permissions
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# [22:30] <johns> jimm: It looks like we're storing this info in permissions but its not hooked up to the same "plugins" permission for some reason
# [22:30] <jimm> ah, cool.
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# [22:31] <Mardak> is there a way to specify the version of javascript for scripts loaded by new Worker("script") and importScripts() from the worker? i'm grabbing a reference to Worker from the hiddenDOMWindow
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# [22:34] <Mardak> oh. i see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487070
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# [22:38] <jfkthame> is someone already busy backing out billm, or should i start on it?
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# [22:38] <billm> jfkthame: wait, just a sec. I didn't know.
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# [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/edd45de440ba - Jason Smith - Bug 818466 - Enable basic automated WebRTC gUM tests on Android. r=jesup
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# [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7a58a0e5066 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 819443 - Fix compile error (r=red)
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# [22:43] <billm> jfkthame: should be fixed
# [22:43] <jfkthame> thanks!
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# [22:45] <Mardak> re using "let" from Worker, ChromeWorker works for me
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# [22:48] <Pike> bhearsum: there's a red panda on aurora after my landing, I'm not sure if that's in any way related. can you have a look if you've seen that before?
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# [22:50] <Ms2ger> billm, oh dear
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# [22:50] <billm> Ms2ger: what's the matter?
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# [22:51] <Ms2ger> Let's hope the latest one goes green
# [22:51] <Ms2ger> Would you mind starring all the red builds when it does?
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# [22:53] <Bas> Ms2ger: done
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# [22:54] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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# [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65d0aedb6ac4 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. WillPaint notification can flush, so re-get the listener after it on Windows widget backend. r=jimm
# [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f6c579151c5 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. Move the forced repaint from the Paint notification to the WillPaint notification. r=mattwoodrow
# [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/956f6e2b4b70 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. Paint notification can flush (via WillPaint), so re-check if the listener still exists after on puppet widget backend. r=cjones
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# [22:55] <mattwoodrow> tn: \o/
# [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9aae7b226f3d - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. WillPaint notification can flush, so re-get the listener after it on GTK2 widget backend. r=karlt
# [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/789e54325d76 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. Re-get the view after calling PaintWindow because it can flush (via WillPaint). r=mattwoodrow
# [22:56] <tn> mattwoodrow, :)
# [22:56] <mattwoodrow> thanks for fixing that
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# [22:57] <jduell> jdm: hey running into "SpecialPowers not defined" in a file that has lots of other SpecialPowers references. Have you seen that before?
# [22:57] <jdm> I don't believe so
# [22:57] <jdm> got a link?
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# [22:58] <jduell> jdm: trying to add it right here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/devicestorage/ipc/test_ipc.html?force=1#12
# [22:58] <jgilbert> bsmedberg: question about alert(), JS, and nested event loops
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# [22:58] <Ms2ger> jduell, oh dear, *that*
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# [22:59] <jdm> jduell: weird.
# [22:59] <jduell> Ms2ger: yes, and... ?
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# [23:00] <jduell> Ms2ger: jdm: so it doesn't seem to actually be that I'm using SpecialPowers: if I sub in a different comment (let comp = SpecialPowers.wrap(SpecialPowers.Components);) it doesn't get same error
# [23:00] <jdm> jduell: what's the line you're trying to run?
# [23:00] <jduell> jdm: SpecialPowers.setBoolPref("network.disable.ipc.security", true);
# [23:01] <jduell> worked find in the other mochitest I fixed, and I cut and pasted from there
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# [23:01] <jdm> that's very strange
# [23:01] <tn> mattwoodrow, np
# [23:02] <jduell> jdm: only diff I see if that one page uses <script .. javascript;version=1.7> while other is 1.8
# [23:02] <jduell> but that shouldn't matter I assume
# [23:02] <jduell> lemme try :)
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# [23:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1c24a90750bf - Mario Alvarado [:marioalv] - Bug 806732 - Port test_bug627234.js to the new per-tab PB APIs; r=ehsan
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# [23:09] <qpalzm> can you recommend me a good call graph generator for visualizing the moz codebase?
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# [23:12] <jdm> oof
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# [23:12] <jdm> that's a complicated problem
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# [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/991647fcdc27 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 811157. Use GetBaseTransform() instead of GetTransform(). r=roc
# [23:13] <jdm> qpalzm: see many posts at http://ehren.wordpress.com/ for why it's tricky
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# [23:14] <jduell> jdm: hmm, well I found this, which seems like better place to set pref in that test
# [23:14] <jduell> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/devicestorage/ipc/test_ipc.html?force=1#149
# [23:14] <jdm> jduell: excellent point
# [23:14] <jduell> and yet I still get same error if I try to set "network.disable.ipc.security"
# [23:14] <Pike> jimm: can you help star bnicholson's panda bustage on aurora? can't see how that would cause a burn on panda, as the one before is fine. or should we just retrigger that build?
# [23:14] <jduell> jdm: so I guess that error really means, "I don't want to set that pref for some reason" :)
# [23:14] <jdm> which is totally weird
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# [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92bc31268fd6 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820682 - DMD: Tweak stress mode. r=jlebar.
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# [23:23] <romaxa> bsmedberg: IIUC BrowserSubThread
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# [23:23] <romaxa> bsmedberg: but I need to check it
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# [23:24] <Mossop> jimm: Sorry I got distracted when my machine BSOD on me earlier. Let's just remove those scope checks, they are getting so complex that I'm not sure we'd even spot a regression at this point
# [23:25] <jimm> ah, ok, will do
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# [23:33] <jduell> jdm: now I can't seem to run dom/devicestorage/ipc/test_ipc.html w/o SpecialPowers ref fail, even with all patches backed out (i.e. just a straight build on inbound). Could have sworn it worked before. Can you see if it works for you?
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# [23:33] <jdm> sure
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# [23:34] <jdm> jduell: no problems here apart from the crash
# [23:34] <jduell> jdm you mean the crash because of our sec check?
# [23:34] <jdm> yes
# [23:35] <jduell> jdm: yeah I can get that too, I think. I'm talking about the test now failing for me without our patch or anything else except the bits on inbound
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# [23:35] <jdm> jduell: I know. I don't see any other failures.
# [23:36] <jduell> jdm: erm, but our sec checks don't exist on inbound, so you must have that patch applied?
# [23:36] <jdm> jduell: sorry, this was with my patch applied.
# [23:36] <avih> jrmuizel: got some time to discuss start/stopFrameTimeRecording?
# [23:36] <jdm> I figured I would see the specialpowers stuff regardless
# [23:36] <jrmuizel> avih: I do
# [23:36] <jdm> I'm kicking off a naked build now
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# [23:39] <avih> jrmuizel: ok, thanks. so, i've been working on bug 820167 . i now see that my (WIP) code provides similar functionality as the frames recording facility, but mine also records layout flush and paint times per frame. so i was thinking of either extend your code with processing measurements, or move that functionality into th refresh driver (where my code resides). and insight on this?
# [23:40] <avih> and why isn't the bot summarizing the bug? :)
# [23:40] <jrmuizel> avih: it probably make sense to merge them
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# [23:41] <jrmuizel> avih: there are no other consumers of my API, so I'd rather us just have one useful one
# [23:41] <avih> jrmuizel: indeed, i couldn't find any consumer
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# [23:42] <avih> jrmuizel: since i don't know the layers code, is it possible to measure the layout flushes and paints there?
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# [23:43] <jrmuizel> avih: not really... I don't think
# [23:43] <jrmuizel> avih: can you post your existing code to the bug?
# [23:44] <avih> jrmuizel: yes, sec, let me pastebin my wip patch
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# [23:46] <avih> jrmuizel: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1990901 pls consider that i'm very new to mozilla code and haven't posted meaningful patches yet. also, lines 80-90 are when i currently use for testing it.
# [23:46] <avih> when->what
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# [23:49] <avih> jrmuizel: also, fwiw, i later decided that recording timestamps rather than intervals would be better, since when a consumer starts recording, the first interval could potentially be very big, since frames don't necessarily paint @60fps, and if the browser was idle, the first recorded interval could not be useful, while it might be important for the consumer (e.g. animation can start slow, and the first interval is important)
# [23:50] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah that sounds reasonable
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# [23:50] <jrmuizel> and yeah I think it makes a lot of sense to at least have this code nearby each other
# [23:50] <avih> jrmuizel: so my code uses a cyclic buffer for recordings, and it can have as many consumers as required. when a consumer start recording, it gets a handle which is the start position, so the recorder is stateless.
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# [23:51] <jrmuizel> avih: is that needed?
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# [23:52] <avih> jrmuizel: not that i know of, but the design isn't more complex than a single consumer at a time. i only needed this recording for non concurrent measurements, so one at a time would be fine for me too.
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# [23:53] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah, I don't feel that strongly if it doesn't add complexity
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# [23:53] <avih> jrmuizel: only disadvantage compared to your design is that the recording length is limited to the cyclic buffer size.
# [23:54] <jrmuizel> avih: right
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# [23:54] <avih> at least as far as i can tell.
# [23:54] <avih> and mine doesn't have the overhead of reallocating the array when it grows, though i don't know if that's a big penalty
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# [23:55] <jrmuizel> yeah, circular buffers can be a little trickier to get corect
# [23:55] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah, we do lots of allocation on paint so one more isn't going to be significant
# [23:55] <avih> i _think_ this code works well.
# [23:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: the compiler seems to think that the thing you checked in is not C++
# [23:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: is it right?
# [23:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5c0883fb96f - Fabrice Desré - Bug 820677 - vkb doesn't work anymore in b2g [r=gwagner]
# [23:56] <avih> yeah, i thought so as well. paint does a lot of work, so occasional array grow probably isn't too much compared
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# [23:57] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah
# [23:57] <BenWa> ehsan: I'm an idiot =\
# [23:57] <@ehsan> BenWa: it's not you, it's the language :)
# [23:57] <avih> jrmuizel: so, what do you think would the best approach be? copy your code into the refresh driver and add the processing times, and mosify the interface accordingly? or use the cyclic buffer? or any other approach?
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# [23:57] <@ehsan> BenWa: please
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# [23:58] <jrmuizel> avih: one of the tricky bits is that the mapping from layer managers to refresh drivers is not 1 to 1
# [23:58] <jdm> jduell: o.o I get the SpecialPowers error.
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# [23:58] <avih> jrmuizel: is it important to measure at the layer manager?
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# [23:59] <jrmuizel> avih: there's a refresh driver for every presshell, but they can all share a single layermanager
# [23:59] <jduell> jdm: so it should be busted on inbound, right?
# [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2b21508b90b - Terrence Cole - Bug 821013 - Exactly rooting IonBuilder::jsop_initelem; r=billm
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# [23:59] <jdm> jduell: or else it's only busted when running the test alone
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# [23:59] <jrmuizel> avih: the layer manager knows when the actual frames have been painted
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# [23:59] <jduell> jdm: right. Would it work if some earlier test had enabled SpecialPowers? I don't know how that magic works
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