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1. # Session Start: Fri Dec 14 00:00:00 2012
2. # Session Ident: #developers
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6. # [00:04] <jhammel> just use seconds from the big bang, correcting for general relativity
7. # [00:05] <jhammel> hmmm, there could be quantum problems near t = 0 tho :/
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11. # [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb6ef9590c39 - Chris Pearce - Bug 821495 - Add cast to silence unnecessary data loss compile warning in AudioSampleFormat.h. r=kinetik
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17. # [00:13] <avih> NeilAway: yes, i made count the last optional (2nd to last at the IDL). thx :)
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20. # [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0d1752cf4551 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 815569 - Pause (rather than mute) media elements interrupted by the audio channel service. r=roc a=blocking-basecamp
21. # [00:15] <@roc> apparently when Visual Studio is trying to load symbols for rtutils.dll and fails (hangs), that also causes Firefox to stop being able to load Web pages
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23. # [00:16] <njn> I'm getting a hang due to a spinlock beneath OSXVersion() on Mac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1993412
24. # [00:16] <njn> anyone know about that?
25. # [00:16] <dholbert> Did "JS Component Loader: [js-filename] test for equality (==) mistyped as assignment (=)?" JS warning just get turned on in the past few days, or something?
26. # [00:16] <njn> it wasn't happening the other day...
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28. # [00:17] <njn> benjamin: ^^^ could that be related to your strict mode stuff?
29. # [00:17] <njn> benjamin: (what dholbert said)
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32. # [00:17] <dholbert> (I'm seeing that warning all over the place in my debug build output, when I don't recall seeing it before. Seems like a valid/useful warning, I'm just wondering what made us suddenly start warning about it)
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34. # [00:18] <dholbert> (it was added exactly a year ago, in https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ac2e9f57426d , but maybe it wasn't enabled until now?)
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36. # [00:18] <dholbert> actually, s/it was added/it looks to have last been changed/
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43. # [00:21] <@ehsan|brb> bz: hey
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47. # [00:22] <firebot> Check-in:
48. # [00:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4519670ac62d - Daniel Holbert - Bug 821507: Add parens around assignment-used-as-loop-condition in XPIProvider.jsm and PluginProvider.jsm, to fix JS strict warning "test for equality mistyped as
49. # [00:22] <firebot> assignment". r=Mossop
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52. # [00:23] <firebot> Check-in:
53. # [00:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6464b79a1cf9 - Gabriele Svelto - Bug 814771 - Add a cancelable runnable and use it to cancel a pending memory minimization procedure when an application is brought to the foreground r=jlebar
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56. # [00:25] <njn> dammit
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58. # [00:25] <njn> I just want to land something
59. # [00:25] <dholbert> njn, lose the push-race? :D
60. # [00:25] <njn> twice!
61. # [00:25] <njn> grr
62. # [00:25] <dholbert> type fastar!!111!one!
63. # [00:26] <njn> dholbert: I type plenty fast, it's |hg pull --rebase| is too damn slow
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65. # [00:27] <@roc> just write a shell script that loops doing (hg pull --rebase; hg push) until it succeeds
66. # [00:27] <jhammel> roc++
67. # [00:27] <@roc> there should really be an hg push option for that
68. # [00:27] <@roc> "hg push --harder"
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70. # [00:28] <Waldo> for added resiliency, open separate /querys to every person on IRC to distract them)
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72. # [00:28] <jhammel> Waldo++
73. # [00:28] <njn> finally
74. # [00:29] <jhammel> Waldo: though you forgot, "starting with, 'I have a question; can you help?'"
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76. # [00:29] <njn> roc: there's a qfinish in there too, which complicates things
77. # [00:29] <Waldo> jhammel++
78. # [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c2785739e25 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 4) - DMD: Inline BlockSize into LiveBlock. r=jlebar.
79. # [00:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f305729255b - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 6) - DMD: Don't use LiveBlockKey in LiveBlock. r=jlebar.
80. # [00:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c77de31ddc4 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 7) - DMD: Fix bug in strdup_. r=jlebar.
81. # [00:29] <@roc> not really
82. # [00:29] <Waldo> "never mind, figured it out!"
83. # [00:29] <@roc> you don't have to qfinish on every iteration
84. # [00:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f54a6f692591 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 3) - DMD: Distinguish BlockSize and GroupSize. r=jlebar.
85. # [00:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5fbf4fc5df2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 1) - DMD: Split BlockKey in two, and fix the ensuing fall-out. r=jlebar.
86. # [00:30] <jhammel> Waldo: itym, "never mind; switching to chrome"
87. # [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ac16858d004 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 5) - DMD: Store the block address in LiveBlock. r=jlebar.
88. # [00:30] <Waldo> \o/
89. # [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a77821dd8903 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 820652 (part 2) - DMD: Embriefen the hash policy of LiveBlockGroup and DoubleReportBlockGroup. r=jlebar.
90. # [00:30] <jhammel> Waldo: then if you want, adding on, "I've been using Forfixe for 25 years! its a shame that i have to switch"
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93. # [00:31] <Waldo> jhammel and I are in a virtuous feedback cycle right now, and it is awesome
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95. # [00:31] <jhammel> :)
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97. # [00:32] <Waldo> now if only dolske could join in, for ultimate awesomeness
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100. # [00:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e66d60ed3000 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 820713 - Assertion failure: cx->runtime->requestDepth || cx->runtime->isHeapBusy(), at js/src/jscntxt.cpp:1492. r=billm
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104. # [00:38] <@roc> sweet, even though I've told Visual Studio not to load any symbols, it still does. And hangs.
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107. # [00:38] <Waldo> feature!
108. # [00:38] <@roc> someone tell me again how awesome Visual Studio debugging is
109. # [00:38] <@dolske> Waldo: get back to work, slacker! ;)
110. # [00:39] <Waldo> dolske: hey, I started early, my day's basically done :-P
111. # [00:39] <@dolske> that's why they never called it Visual Studio Live
112. # [00:39] <Waldo> (early by west-coast standards, at least; not super early by EST standards)
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118. # [00:42] <njn> |strdup(NULL)| seg faults on my machine, interesting
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121. # [00:43] <Waldo> njn: pretty sure that behavior's undefined
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124. # [00:43] <@dolske> having two different strings at 0x0 would be disasterous!
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130. # [00:48] <Waldo> odd, strdup isn't actually C89 or C99 or C11
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134. # [00:50] <firebot> Check-in:
135. # [00:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ad5a4247d71 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 821392: Mark pluginSupportsAsyncDXGIDrawing as 'inline' instead of 'static' to fix build warning for .cpp files that #include it without using that method. r=Bas
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137. # [00:51] <@ehsan> huh
138. # [00:52] <@ehsan> nthomas: so when I connect to MPT, it seems like I cannot resolve any names :(
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140. # [00:52] <nthomas> ehsan: if you're in an office maybe you don't need the VPN
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142. # [00:52] <nthomas> he says hopefully
143. # [00:52] <@ehsan> nthomas: I am at the office
144. # [00:52] <@ehsan> how can I verify that?
145. # [00:53] <nthomas> just disconnect the vpn and see if aus3-staging.mozilla.org resolves
146. # [00:53] <nthomas> or try to load http://aus3-staging.mozilla.org/update/3/Firefox/20.0a1/20121212040209/WINNT_x86-msvc/en-US/nightly-birch-test/Windows_NT%205.1.3.0%20%28x86%29/default/default/update.xml
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148. # [00:53] <@ehsan> nthomas: no, it doesn't resolve
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150. # [00:53] <@ehsan> nthomas: can you tell me what IP should that resolve to?
151. # [00:53] <@ehsan> so that I can hardcode it?
152. # [00:54] <nthomas> 10.8.74.30
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154. # [00:54] <nthomas> hopefully you can route that with MPT-VPN on
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158. # [00:56] <@ehsan> nthomas: I can ping that IP but I cannot connect to it over port 80
159. # [00:56] <nthomas> to clarify, you should get an update to the birch nightly we just did, then would need to unset app.update.url.override, and then check for updates again to verify the channel. May or may not find an update until there is a later m-c nightly
160. # [00:56] <nthomas> well poop
161. # [00:56] <nthomas> I'll put them up on people or something instead
162. # [00:57] <nthomas> mac ?
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164. # [00:57] <@ehsan> yep
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166. # [00:59] <Waldo> oddment
167. # [00:59] * Waldo wonders how he could possibly crash addrefing mMainThread in https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-3bb90f05-0fc1-4fab-b24c-982712121213 not anywhere close to during shutdown
168. # [00:59] <Waldo> at least, not close to shutdown unless I accidentally brushed Ctrl+Q or something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't
169. # [01:00] <nthomas> ehsan: try http://http://people.mozilla.com/~nthomas/bug819857/mac-update.xml for app.update.url.override
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171. # [01:01] <nthomas> only sane protocol
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178. # [01:03] <@ehsan> nthomas: ok I got the update to the nightly we just did on birch
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180. # [01:03] <nthomas> ok
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182. # [01:05] <@ehsan> nthomas: and according to the update dialog, I'm now on the nightly channel! :)
183. # [01:05] <NeilAway> until hg push; do hg pull --rebase; done
184. # [01:05] <nthomas> ehsan: huzzah!
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187. # [01:07] <@ehsan> nthomas: one question though
188. # [01:08] <@ehsan> nthomas: if I get a partial update to the nightly branch tomorrow, would that do the right thing?
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192. # [01:08] <nthomas> ehsan: very unlikely to have the right buildID to get offered one
193. # [01:08] <@ehsan> I see
194. # [01:08] <@ehsan> nthomas: ok cool!
195. # [01:08] <@ehsan> does this mean that we're done? :)
196. # [01:08] <nthomas> sounds like I can turn birch updates back on, yeah
197. # [01:08] <@ehsan> great!
198. # [01:09] <@ehsan> nthomas: oh, there's one more question
199. # [01:09] <@ehsan> nthomas: will there be future automatic nightly builds on birch?
200. # [01:10] <benjamin> njn: yeah, it's bug bug 821103
201. # [01:10] <nthomas> ehsan: The patch to disable them is landed, just needs a buildbot reconfig to deploy (whenever that may be). I think it doesn't matter if we get some extra birch nightlies on the current tip
202. # [01:11] <@ehsan> nthomas: it does, since I'm planning to repurpose birch to test global PB builds
203. # [01:11] <@ehsan> and I don't want anyone to be updated back to those builds on birch
204. # [01:11] <nthomas> real soon now ?
205. # [01:11] <@ehsan> nthomas: well I was planning to do that now!
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207. # [01:12] <@ehsan> so yeah, I'd say real soon ;)
208. # [01:12] <nthomas> worst case we try to build on current tip rev, and it fails
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210. # [01:12] <nthomas> best case I find a few minutes to do a reconfig today
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214. # [01:13] <@ehsan> hmm
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216. # [01:13] <@ehsan> nthomas: can I put something in the code to make nightly builds fail perhaps?
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218. # [01:14] <nthomas> hmm, I'm assuming you're resetting the repo, but maybe not ?
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222. # [01:14] <@ehsan> no I was planning to not do that
223. # [01:14] <@ehsan> this repo has a one line difference with m-c
224. # [01:15] <@ehsan> (well after I backout those two patches)
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226. # [01:15] <@ehsan> I can also reset but that takes longer...
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229. # [01:16] <nthomas> alright, i'll do the reconfig
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232. # [01:19] <benjamin> dholbert: red on inbound
233. # [01:19] <dholbert> benjamin: thanks, looking
234. # [01:19] <@ehsan> nthomas: thank you so much!
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242. # [01:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a17cb882eb6b - Benjamin Peterson - Backout bug 820902 for bustage. CLOSED TREE
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254. # [01:34] <benjamin> how does one reopen the tre , btw?
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256. # [01:35] <dholbert> benjamin, https://treestatus.mozilla.org/
257. # [01:35] <dholbert> benjamin, it requires BrowserID/Persona login to close/reopen; if you aren't on the whitelist, it won't let you, IIRC
258. # [01:35] <dholbert> benjamin, (though you can ping edmorley to get on the whitelist)
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260. # [01:36] <dholbert> benjamin, I can reopen it on your behalf, if your backout resolved the thing that caused the closure
261. # [01:36] * benjamin is 86% sure
262. # [01:36] <jhammel> that's very precise :)
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264. # [01:37] <dholbert> OK, reopened
265. # [01:37] <seth> we need a confidence interval here
266. # [01:37] <jhammel> +/- 207%
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268. # [01:38] <froydnj> jhammel: run for your liiiiiife
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270. # [01:38] <Waldo> leeeeeroy jeeeenkins
271. # [01:39] <Waldo> at least we can checkin
272. # [01:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc0625023dc0 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 820799 - Set the lastSelected property to an empty string rather than null, since the latter stringifies to 'null'. r=neil
273. # [01:39] <froydnj> Waldo must be 207% confident
274. # [01:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cb7e17d0e3d - Dão Gottwald - Bug 263433 - 'text-link' XUL widget should open tabs rather than windows. r=enn
275. # [01:39] <froydnj> or maybe just 55.3%
276. # [01:39] <Waldo> repeating!
277. # [01:39] <benjamin> +- 20%
278. # [01:39] <benjamin> thanks
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294. # [01:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9585e38ed39d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 821358 - Port the trace-malloc Windows TLS macros to DMD; r=njn
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303. # [01:52] <Waldo> ehsan: why doesn't the DMD stuff ^ use ThreadLocal, since it looks at a glance like it could?
304. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9a891c0a6e7 - Dan Mosedale - Bug 819825, fix ICE/STUN crash on Android by null-checking setlocale(), r=abr
305. # [01:52] <@ehsan> Waldo: not sure
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309. # [01:53] <ewong> blues don't need to be starred, right?
310. # [01:54] <Waldo> just retriggered, as I understand it
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314. # [01:55] <dholbert> blue is auto-retriggered, so no action needs to be taken
315. # [01:55] <ewong> oh ok.
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318. # [01:55] <dholbert> (unless you get like 10 of them in a row, in case something's wrong and you'd want to alert #build)
319. # [01:55] <dholbert> *in which case
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327. # [01:59] <ewong> dholbert: I'm now looking at m-i.. there's a lot of stuff that aren't starred.. is that normal/usual?
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329. # [01:59] <dholbert> ewong, somewhat usual for m-i
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331. # [01:59] <dholbert> ewong, technically on mozilla-central, you're supposed to star everything before you push
332. # [02:00] <dholbert> on mozilla-inbound, there is no such rule -- it's more like "don't push on top of clearly-broken stuff"
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334. # [02:00] <dholbert> and we star inbound on an as-needed / volunteers-who-are-awesome basis
335. # [02:01] <dholbert> ewong, tl;dr: on inbound, starring is encouraged but not required
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337. # [02:01] <ewong> dholbert: thanks!
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339. # [02:01] <dholbert> ewong, there's currently a bunch of orange on inbound that's fixed by by a backout, I think
340. # [02:02] <dholbert> ewong, so that might be what you're seeing, too
341. # [02:02] <dholbert> ewong, no prob
342. # [02:03] <ewong> dholbert: I'm looking at a Linux pgo M-2 orange on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=2a929d0c5233 and I've seen it before somewhere..
343. # [02:03] <ewong> with so many pushes.. losing track of where I've seen bugs
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345. # [02:05] <dholbert> ewong, you can probably find where you've seen it before by visiting https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/query.cgi?query_format=advanced&;resolution= and searching the test name and error message
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347. # [02:05] <dholbert> ewong, probably searching the "Comment" field
348. # [02:05] <dholbert> (and leaving everything else in that search page @ default values)
349. # [02:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8a72b2a22450 - Chris AtLee - Bug 821131: Update unagi kernel. r=mwu DONTBUILD because NPOTB (nightlies only)
350. # [02:06] <dholbert> ewong, it looks like the push right after that one has the same failure on Linux opt, FWIW. (but not linux64 opt)
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354. # [02:09] <ewong> dholbert: strange.. I don't see an orange Linux opt M on the next push
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356. # [02:10] <dholbert> ewong, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=0ad5a4247d71
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358. # [02:12] <ewong> oooh.. now I see where you are..
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361. # [02:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7878092679cf - Josh Matthews - Date: Mon Dec 10 00:16:09 2012 -0500
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363. # [02:13] <dholbert> jdm, nice commit message :)
364. # [02:13] <jdm> arrrrrrrrrrrgh
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367. # [02:15] <ewong> so with the backouts.. I should ignore any of the builds prior to the backout since that build supercedes them, right?
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370. # [02:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2cf3cca4171e - Jason Orendorff - Tests for bug 744731, which luke accidentally fixed in rev b863ef9946b8. no_r=just-passing-tests.
371. # [02:17] <dholbert> ewong, for what purpose?
372. # [02:17] <dholbert> ewong, just for determining whether the tree is in a good state?
373. # [02:17] <dholbert> or for determining what to star, if you're starring stuff? or what?
374. # [02:17] <ewong> dholbert: yeah. to check if the tree is in a good state
375. # [02:17] <dholbert> ewong, I think so, yeah
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377. # [02:17] <ewong> dholbert: actually.. a little bit of both
378. # [02:18] <dholbert> ewong, so if you're sure that an orange was resolved by the backout, the convention is to star it with the changeset ID of the backout
379. # [02:18] <dholbert> ewong, (as I did with my android reds)
380. # [02:18] <dholbert> ewong, if you're not sure, though, better to leave it unstarred
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383. # [02:18] <ewong> ah ok. thanks for the pointers dholbert
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385. # [02:19] <dholbert> ewong, no prob!
386. # [02:20] <ewong> dholbert: I suspect it will take me a while to understand all this.
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388. # [02:22] <dholbert> ewong, perhaps, but #developers is here to help. :)
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391. # [02:24] <seth> dholbert: do i have to update the CID if i change a method on a class that's got a mozilla::Module::CIDEntry? i suspect so, right?
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398. # [02:27] <ewong> there's a red B2G Panda opt that I'm not sure about..
399. # [02:27] <ewong> for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=4cb7e17d0e3d
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406. # [02:31] <dholbert> seth, I'm not sure... I think I've only had to change a CID once, myself. But I suspect "yes"
407. # [02:31] <dholbert> seth, by "change a method" do you mean "change a method signature"?
408. # [02:31] <seth> dholbert: right
409. # [02:31] <seth> dholbert: the Init method, no less =)
410. # [02:32] <dholbert> pretty sure you'd need to update it then, yeah
411. # [02:32] <seth> ok, will do. thanks!
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416. # [02:33] <ewong> dholbert: is there a policy on when to do a manual retrigger?
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418. # [02:34] <dholbert> ewong, "when it might be useful", basically :)
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420. # [02:35] <dholbert> ewong, why do you want to do one? is there an orange that you're not sure if it's perma-orange or sporadic and you want to check?
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428. # [02:37] <dholbert> ewong, in the red B2G build you mentioned above, I suspect it's an infra issue (or a sporadic thing), 'cause I don't think that push's "guilty" changes could've caused it
429. # [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65da8135423f - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 821469 - Don't start compression thread if not requested. r=billm
430. # [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bacea371020a - Matthew Gregan - Backed out changeset 0d1752cf4551 (landed on mozilla-beta when it should've landed on mozilla-b2g18) a=backout
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439. # [02:42] <ewong> dholbert: so would a retrigger work in this case?
440. # [02:43] <dholbert> ewong, I'd expect it to
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443. # [02:43] <ewong> dholbert: so can I retrigger? I retriggered a tp yesterday and I've completely lost track of it..
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445. # [02:43] <dholbert> ewong, sure
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448. # [02:44] <dholbert> ewong, to be clear: I'm not convinced ot
449. # [02:45] <dholbert> *I'm not convinced it's useful to retrigger that particular job, given that there are green B2G builds after it
450. # [02:45] <ewong> dholbert good point..
451. # [02:45] <dholbert> but an investigatory retrigger here or there isn't a big deal
452. # [02:45] <dholbert> and it's also arguably good to have results for every push, at least in theory
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454. # [02:45] <ewong> doesn't seem to have any reaction to the retrigger button.
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457. # [02:46] <dholbert> ewong, strange. could be a tbpl bug
458. # [02:47] <ewong> dholbert: or maybe tbpl is telling me 'don't bother'? :)
459. # [02:47] <dholbert> heh
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464. # [02:47] <RyanVM> ewong: dholbert: bustage from bug 818045. retrigger through self-serve for now
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466. # [02:48] <dholbert> RyanVM, good to know, thanks
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469. # [02:48] <ewong> RyanVM: thanks
470. # [02:48] <ewong> dholbert|afk: thanks!
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483. # [02:56] <joe> do you have to change the uuid of an interface if you add an an attribute to its list?
484. # [02:56] <joe> eg
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486. # [02:56] <joe> [scriptable, uuid...] to [scriptable, builtinclass, ...]
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489. # [02:57] <devd> bsmith: http://notary.icsi.berkeley.edu/trust-tree/ is a nice visualization of our the CAs we see in our dataset
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493. # [02:57] <@gavin> joe: the attributes don't affect binary compatibility, so I would think not
494. # [02:57] <devd> bsmith: you can click on each node and see further details like number of child certificates we saw
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501. # [03:00] <bsmith> devd: wow, that's awesome
502. # [03:00] <bsmith> I thoguht that you could not publish that data?
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508. # [03:06] <devd> bsmith: I think the policy is
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510. # [03:07] <devd> if the same CAs exist in all our data sources
511. # [03:07] <devd> then its fine
512. # [03:07] <devd> or something like that .. this question is over my paygrade
513. # [03:10] <firebot> Check-in:
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515. # [03:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/032490690d65 - Josh Matthews - Bug 819202 - Simplify the semantics of OpenBrowserWindow: new windows are public unless explicitly passed a 'private' option or global private browsing is in effect.
516. # [03:10] <firebot> r=dao DONTBUILD
517. # [03:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a05fb0f9add - Josh Matthews - Backed out changeset 7878092679cf (bug 819202)
518. # [03:10] <@dolske> devd: I've seen that before! http://i.imgur.com/OjSXt.jpg
519. # [03:10] <@dolske> didn't know my eye doctor was also playing in the crypto field...
520. # [03:12] <devd> hahahahaha
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522. # [03:13] <devd> dolske: nope .. that image at least has some sense of order.
523. # [03:13] <devd> dolske: the CA heirarchy is all anarchy :)
524. # [03:14] <cjones> RyanVM, b2g18 is unhappy
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527. # [03:14] <RyanVM> cjones: yeah, pretty sure I know what's wrong
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529. # [03:14] <cjones> cool
530. # [03:14] <RyanVM> just running grep to make sure I don't miss any other possible ones
531. # [03:15] <cjones> thanks for the epic uplift, btw :)
532. # [03:15] <RyanVM> not done yet :P
533. # [03:15] <RyanVM> that's only for bugs resolved through yesterday
534. # [03:15] <RyanVM> just getting caught up
535. # [03:15] <cjones> heh
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537. # [03:16] <RyanVM> (shocking, btw, that running grep on mozilla-b2g18 takes awhile)
538. # [03:16] * RyanVM needs an SSD
539. # [03:16] <RyanVM> this velociraptor just ain't enough
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543. # [03:17] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: it would be utterly spectacular if we linux had something like zfs's l2arc :(
544. # [03:17] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: it's probably not helping my cause that I'm on Windows running this through msys
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546. # [03:18] <mjrosenb> msys?
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554. # [03:20] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: sorta cygwin
555. # [03:20] <mjrosenb> ahh.
556. # [03:21] <jgilbert> do we have a trinary data type?
557. # [03:21] <mjrosenb> jgilbert: bool
558. # [03:21] <jgilbert> mjrosenb: >>
559. # [03:21] <mjrosenb> jgilbert: true, false and file_not_found.
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561. # [03:22] <mjrosenb> yeah. as far as I can tell, nobody other than solaris and freebsd have the ability to cache data from your painfully slow 2tb spinning rust data store on your zippity fast heat infused electron trap
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563. # [03:24] <jgilbert> depends what you want in terms of caching, I think
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565. # [03:25] <seth> l2arc kinda sounds similar to apple's fusion drive stuff, but i don't know much about either
566. # [03:26] <seth> although actually i think fusion drive actually moves the data, rather than just caching
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569. # [03:27] <RyanVM> aki: ping
570. # [03:27] <aki> RyanVM: pong
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573. # [03:27] <RyanVM> aki: b2g18 is burning on b2g builds with what appears to be a harness issue
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575. # [03:27] <RyanVM> (the Bg reds)
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577. # [03:28] <aki> why do you think it's a harness issue?
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579. # [03:28] <aki> the kernel update + large merge would seem suspect
580. # [03:30] <RyanVM> aki: IOError: Can't find None in ['.', '/builds/slave/m-b2g18-linux32-g/mozharness/scripts/../configs', '/builds/slave/m-b2g18-linux32-g/mozharness/scripts/../../configs']!
581. # [03:30] <RyanVM> it's dying before it even starts building
582. # [03:30] <aki> a number of these aren't even using mozharness
583. # [03:30] <RyanVM> and the kernel update is nightly only
584. # [03:31] <RyanVM> ignore the non-Bg reds
585. # [03:31] * @bz_away thinks EqualsIgnoreASCIICase is buggy
586. # [03:31] * @bz_away is trying to verify via building now, but....
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588. # [03:31] <RyanVM> aki: the non-Bg reds were bustage from the big push
589. # [03:31] <@bz> That's kinda scary, if so
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591. # [03:31] <RyanVM> aki: should be fixed now
592. # [03:31] <jgilbert> bz: no kidding
593. # [03:31] <aki> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=17926170&tree=Mozilla-B2g18&full=1 doesn't have that error?
594. # [03:31] <aki> RyanVM: please link me to a log
595. # [03:31] <jgilbert> bz: do we not have test coverage for it?
596. # [03:32] <@bz> well
597. # [03:32] <@bz> We might
598. # [03:32] <@bz> but it's only buggy with certain kinds of inputs
599. # [03:32] <@bz> At least if I'm right about it being buggy
600. # [03:32] <@bz> And we might not have been hitting it with those
601. # [03:32] <@bz> Until I tried to use it in attr value compares today.... ;)
602. # [03:32] <aki> aha, found it
603. # [03:33] * @bz looks for an existing consumer
604. # [03:33] <aki> RyanVM: ok, looks like the brand new builds from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=821401 are burning
605. # [03:33] <aki> i'll hide and fix
606. # [03:33] <bsmith> devd: you should consider relabling "inbound links" and "outbound links"
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609. # [03:34] <bsmith> .g. "Signed by" and "issues sub-CAs"
610. # [03:36] <RyanVM> aki: thanks :)]
611. # [03:37] <RyanVM> cjones: I've got 11 more to uplift, but it's 9:40 here. I can watch the tree for awhile, but won't be around to wait for tests to finish. Will you be around?
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616. # [03:38] <@smaug> bsmith: "desktop configures a computer"? Is that "desktop" some team withing MoCo ?
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618. # [03:39] <bsmith> smaug: yes, desktop support. Sorry for the jargon
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620. # [03:39] <@smaug> bsmith: you know, there are non-moco employees here ;)
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622. # [03:40] <bsmith> :)
623. # [03:40] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/happy-bmo-push-day-23/
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626. # [03:41] <@bz> Oh, nevermind
627. # [03:41] <@bz> I see what it's doing, ok
628. # [03:41] <@bz> Hrm.
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638. # [03:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fb4bbc6b029 - Terrence Cole - Bug 821551 - Correctly root all callers of elementWriteIsDenseArray; r=billm
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669. # [04:14] <RyanVM> wow, I'm in full-on moron mode tonight
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673. # [04:18] <ewong> can't be worst than me if you're talking about starring..
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678. # [04:21] <RyanVM> ewong: i'm talking about the stupid number of times I've attempted to fix b2g18
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681. # [04:21] <njn> who knows about nsStackWalk.cpp, other than dbaron?
682. # [04:21] <RyanVM> though I *think* i've got it this time
683. # [04:22] <njn> espindola: ping?
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690. # [04:26] <RyanVM> hah, and then something else breaks
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692. # [04:28] <njn> espindola: never mind
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721. # [04:54] <DevHC> bholley: troll
722. # [04:55] <DevHC> there is no "clang 4"
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726. # [04:56] <espindola> njn: pong anyway :-)
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732. # [04:59] <njn> espindola: take a look at bug 821577 if you're curious
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734. # [05:00] <njn> espindola: I think I reached a reasonable fix
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738. # [05:02] <espindola> gosh, I need to bring stuff back in cache for that
739. # [05:02] <espindola> when do you get to hang?
740. # [05:03] <espindola> I mean, there is a stack on the bug, but what do you have to do to reproduce it?
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742. # [05:03] <espindola> njn: in any case, I hope if you don't mind if I look at it next week (Monday)
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746. # [05:04] <njn> espindola: just run it in a tip build, instructions are here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink/DMD
747. # [05:05] <njn> espindola: my patch works, so your input isn't crucial, AFAICt
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815. # [06:06] <mjrosenb> gah, jimb committed code without being online :(
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822. # [06:15] <mfinkle> jesup, problem on inbound?
823. # [06:15] <jesup> mfinkle: looking
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825. # [06:16] <tbsaunde> I don't suppose there's someone around who knows a bit about xptinfo and xpconnect calling methods on native interfaces?
826. # [06:18] <jesup> mfinkle: grrr. the anonymous enum issue... compiler rev difference (saw some patches go around to fix other instances of this in the last day - did they update compilers or default options?)
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829. # [06:19] <jesup> who's sheriffing?
830. # [06:20] <jesup> I guess I'd better backout and respin. I believe the solution is just to cast the anonymous enums
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834. # [06:22] <mjrosenb> speaking of breakage
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836. # [06:22] <mjrosenb> i've been running into this:
837. # [06:22] <mjrosenb> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `.gdbinit', needed by `../dist/bin/.gdbinit'. Stop.
838. # [06:22] <jesup> cute
839. # [06:22] <jesup> I know there's a .gdbinit in the tree now
840. # [06:22] <mjrosenb> yeah, I assume jimb added it, but he is not around
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930. # [08:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d72d915e308b - Alexandre Lissy - Bug 819790 - Fix reading SPDI fail. r=vicamo
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934. # [08:09] <bholley> DevHC_: ?
935. # [08:09] <bholley> DevHC_: Apple clang version 4.0 (tags/Apple/clang-421.0.60) (based on LLVM 3.1svn)
936. # [08:10] <bholley> DevHC_: is my clang -v
937. # [08:10] <@bz> bholley: Apple's versioning is a lie, more or less
938. # [08:11] * bholley shrugs
939. # [08:11] <@bz> bholley: The real version there is the "3.1svn"
940. # [08:12] <@bz> bholley: afaict
941. # [08:12] <@bz> but anyway
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943. # [08:13] <@bz> bholley: we're so close on elements....
944. # [08:13] <bholley> bz: nothing's waiting on me, is it?
945. # [08:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d78361a315b3 - Patrick Wang - Bug 819862 - Adding SIM path for EF_SPDI and corresponding test. r=vicamo
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947. # [08:13] <@bz> bholley: nope
948. # [08:13] <@bz> bholley: the only thing involving you is the reparenting patch and its reviews
949. # [08:13] <@bz> bholley: and it's not waiting on you at the moment.
950. # [08:14] <bholley> bz: FWIW the SOW patch looks ok
951. # [08:14] <bholley> bz: I didn't review it line by line
952. # [08:14] <bholley> bz: I'm starting to really hate SOWs though
953. # [08:14] <bholley> bz: I think I'm going to give the separate scope thing another shot
954. # [08:16] <bholley> bz: I realized that we can probably run XBL in a sandbox with an nsExpandedPrincipal, wantXrays, and sandboxPrototype
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956. # [08:16] <bholley> bz: effectively reusing a lot of existing machinery to do the heavy lifting
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962. # [08:27] <@bz> bholley: I would love that
963. # [08:27] <@bz> bholley: because without it, we have to check for "wants SOWs" in the hot path in bindings. ;)
964. # [08:27] <@bz> bholley: And that's just not acceptable.
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970. # [08:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e94ee1930f4 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 759621 test. No review, test only.
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972. # [08:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fe60dd3d145 - Jim Mathies - Bug 789529 - Fix for updater tests can't find channel-prefs.js - move channel-prefs back to its gre subdir. r=glandium
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975. # [08:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9f1337be665 - Mike Hommey - Bug 791694 - Use XRE_EXECUTABLE_FILE in browser shell instead of guesswork from NS_XPCOM_CURRENT_PROCESS_DIR and MOZ_APP_NAME. r=jimm
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1030. # [09:31] <glandium> tbsaunde: you broke my build
1031. # [09:32] <glandium> (local build), with 5aed5087fb7b
1032. # [09:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe5784e9e50b - Randell Jesup - Bug 806375: cleanup DataChannel, esp. channel close and connection shutdown r=mcmanus
1033. # [09:34] <@bz_sleep> glandium: what's broken?
1034. # [09:34] <glandium> bz_sleep: linking libxul.so, because of a symbol not found
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1036. # [09:35] <NeilAway> mjrosenb++
1037. # [09:35] <glandium> bz_sleep: I'm testing this: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/1994429
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1039. # [09:36] <@gavin> glandium: you should file a bug, mano and mak were seeing the same
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1041. # [09:37] <@bz_sleep> glandium: er
1042. # [09:37] <@bz_sleep> glandium: Which symbol is not found?
1043. # [09:38] <@bz_sleep> glandium: making that an NS_IMETHOD should so not be necessary...
1044. # [09:38] <@gavin> for marco, it was nsIDOMCSSStyleDeclaration::GetPropertyCSSValue
1045. # [09:38] <glandium> bz_sleep: the problem is in the .cpp, actually
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1047. # [09:38] * @bz_sleep is rereading patch
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1049. # [09:39] <@bz_sleep> which .cpp?
1050. # [09:40] <glandium> bz_sleep: layout/style/nsComputedDOMStyle.cpp
1051. # [09:40] <@bz_sleep> Hmm
1052. # [09:40] <@bz_sleep> So this .cpp has:
1053. # [09:40] <@bz_sleep> 17.79 +already_AddRefed<CSSValue>
1054. # [09:40] <@bz_sleep> 17.80 +nsComputedDOMStyle::GetPropertyCSSValue(const nsAString& aPropertyName, ErrorResult& aRv)
1055. # [09:40] <hsivonen> does mach provide a way to run mochitest-plain in gdb?
1056. # [09:41] <glandium> ah, it's not that definition
1057. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> And the header says:
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1059. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> 18.40 + virtual already_AddRefed<mozilla::dom::CSSValue>
1060. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> 18.41 + GetPropertyCSSValue(const nsAString& aProp, mozilla::ErrorResult& aRv)
1061. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> 18.42 + MOZ_OVERRIDE;
1062. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> 18.43 + using nsIDOMCSSStyleDeclaration::GetPropertyCSSValue;
1063. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> And the class inherits from nsDOMCSSDeclaration
1064. # [09:41] * mattwoodrow is now known as mattwoodrow|away
1065. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> Hmm
1066. # [09:41] <@bz_sleep> Maybe the "using" should say nsDOMCSSDeclaration::nsIDOMCSSStyleDeclaration::GetPropertyCSSValue ?
1067. # [09:42] <@bz_sleep> er...
1068. # [09:42] <@bz_sleep> nsDOMCSSDeclaration::GetPropertyCSSValue
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1070. # [09:42] <glandium> gah, too early in the morning
1071. # [09:42] <@bz_sleep> Too late at night in my case
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1074. # [09:43] <@dolske> just right for me!
1075. # [09:43] <@bz_sleep> nsICSSDeclaration is what actually defines a useful GetPropertyCSSValue
1076. # [09:43] <@dolske> goldilocks and the 3 programmers
1077. # [09:44] <tbsaunde> glandium: just got home, looking
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1080. # [09:44] <glandium> bz_sleep, tbsaunde: full error in bug 821618
1081. # [09:44] <@bz_sleep> tbsaunde: btw... http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5aed5087fb7b#l23.35
1082. # [09:45] <@bz_sleep> tbsaunde: the indent is off on line 41 there
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1086. # [09:47] <@bz_sleep> This is complaining about a pure virtual function not being defined?
1087. # [09:47] <@bz_sleep> What the heck?
1088. # [09:47] <tbsaunde> bz_sleep: ok, looking but I can only do one thing at a time
1089. # [09:47] <glandium> bz_sleep: it's complaining that a function that it didn't inline is defined nowhere
1090. # [09:47] <glandium> (apparently)
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1096. # [09:50] * hsivonen wonders if there has been an infinite loop bug in JS::Value::isNull in the past couple of days
1097. # [09:50] <gcp> didn't we respin nightly on android for that topcrasher?
1098. # [09:50] <hsivonen> oh.
1099. # [09:50] <hsivonen> I guess I should repull
1100. # [09:51] <gcp> hsivonen: wasn't directed at you
1101. # [09:51] <gcp> but for what it's worth, android nightlies have been unusable for me recently
1102. # [09:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6002b73474a7 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 821268 - Move NaNCond to the assembler. r=djvj
1103. # [09:51] <hsivonen> gcp: for me, too
1104. # [09:51] <tbsaunde> bz_sleep: glandium so, wtf why is using a virtual function even allowed???
1105. # [09:53] <tbsaunde> glandium: if you change using nsIDOMCSSDeclaration to using nsICSSDeclaration does it build?
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1107. # [09:55] <glandium> tbsaunde: hmmm where?
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1110. # [09:56] <tbsaunde> glandium: in nsComputedDOMStyle.h
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1112. # [09:58] <mjrosenb> NeilAway: eh?
1113. # [09:59] <glandium> tbsaunde: ah looks promising. will tell you in a bit
1114. # [10:01] <glandium> tbsaunde: yep, worked. thanks
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1119. # [10:05] <tbsaunde> glandium: great, sorry about that, I wonder what's special about your tool chain
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1121. # [10:05] <glandium> tbsaunde: it's clang 3.1 in C++98 mode
1122. # [10:05] <glandium> on linux
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1125. # [10:06] <tbsaunde> glandium: ah
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1130. # [10:09] <NeilAway> mjrosenb: you read thedailywtf too ;-)
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1132. # [10:10] <mjrosenb> NeilAway: ahh. that comment.
1133. # [10:10] <gcp> peterv: ping
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1137. # [10:14] <peterv> gcp: pong
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1143. # [10:21] <edmorley> I love the way robocop has been busted on Android for three hours but people have been quite happy to land on top of it / haven;'t noticed...
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1145. # [10:21] <mjrosenb> edmorley: because it is android
1146. # [10:22] <mjrosenb> edmorley: I've determined that nobody actually cares about android other than #mobile
1147. # [10:22] <mjrosenb> and the sherrifs :-p
1148. # [10:23] <edmorley> mjrosenb: I can understand why (with Android), given the months it was more busted and thus the lack of faith people have built up
1149. # [10:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1fb4089fa9b - Ed Morley - Backout 042b44652822 (bug 715258) for breaking robocop & others on a CLOSED TREE
1150. # [10:23] <tbsaunde> edmorley: and people sometimes don't bother look at inbound tbpl
1151. # [10:24] <edmorley> however TBPL now manages to make bug suggestions for 95% of things, so if the suggestions don't match, it's very likely new
1152. # [10:24] <ewong> edmorley: rpr? kinda like overwhelmed a bit with the influx of oranges/reds/blues/purples.. sorry
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1154. # [10:25] <edmorley> in this case, all three Android variants had the same failure on the same suite on every push (which would be a little more than cooincidental)
1155. # [10:25] <edmorley> ewong: robocop mainly but yeah also rpr
1156. # [10:25] <ewong> err sorry.. what's robocop?
1157. # [10:26] <edmorley> rc
1158. # [10:26] <ewong> OOoh yeah.. the rc oranges?
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1161. # [10:26] <edmorley> yup
1162. # [10:27] <ewong> I couldn't figure out them.. so I thought someone more veteran than I should do the starring..
1163. # [10:27] <edmorley> tbsaunde: I'm more than happy for people not to star/watch the tree on inbound (that's part of the deal after all), it would just sometimes be nice if people took a cursory glance before pushing :-)
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1166. # [10:28] <edmorley> Anyway as they say: when philor's away, the PST mice will play
1167. # [10:28] <edmorley> :-)
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1170. # [10:30] <tbsaunde> edmorley: sure
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1172. # [10:32] <ewong> ahh.. should've seen mfinkle's push..
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1176. # [10:33] <edmorley> ewong: I find a good way of clarifying the failures is to filter by test name
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1178. # [10:34] <edmorley> if that helps :-)
1179. # [10:34] <ewong> edmorley: how do you do that?
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1181. # [10:34] <ewong> oh wait.. unstarred
1182. # [10:34] <ewong> from filters?
1183. # [10:34] <edmorley> "Filters" menu on TBPL -> "Job name" -> "robocop"
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1185. # [10:35] <edmorley> ewong: only unstarred is also useful, but in this case I'd leave it unticked (so you can still see the green jobs, so you know when robocop went bad)
1186. # [10:35] <edmorley> "robocop went bad" tehehe
1187. # [10:35] <ewong> ah
1188. # [10:36] <edmorley> (sorry I'm picturing bad cop good cop robocop)
1189. # [10:36] <phx> hey so im using git and trying to figure out which specific commit causes the bug
1190. # [10:36] <phx> but it seems like each time i check out a commit i have to recompile the whole thing
1191. # [10:36] <phx> which takes a couple hours
1192. # [10:37] <edmorley> phx: have you reduced the range to 24hrs using nightlies?
1193. # [10:37] <phx> yeah
1194. # [10:37] <edmorley> oh
1195. # [10:37] <phx> or rather someone else did lol
1196. # [10:37] <edmorley> yeah built times are quite slow
1197. # [10:37] <edmorley> build
1198. # [10:37] <edmorley> phx what platform?
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1200. # [10:38] <phx> uhhhh, not sure haha
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1202. # [10:38] <edmorley> phx: OS
1203. # [10:38] <edmorley> also https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Mozilla_build_FAQ#Making_builds_faster might be useful
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1205. # [10:38] <phx> oh, linux
1206. # [10:39] <phx> thought you meant moz component
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1208. # [10:39] <phx> i was just hoping that there was a way to only compile files that have been actually changed
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1210. # [10:40] <phx> since im going from a commit to the next one, so there should only be a few files that actually need to be recompiled
1211. # [10:40] <edmorley> phx: that is what should be happening, however, there are particular files that if changed require a complete rebuild, so you may just be unlucky with your regression range
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1213. # [10:40] <edmorley> phx: are you using make -f client.mk ?
1214. # [10:40] <phx> yeah
1215. # [10:40] <edmorley> good
1216. # [10:40] <phx> why?
1217. # [10:41] <edmorley> phx: it skips configure if possible
1218. # [10:41] <phx> i was using mach, but these commits are circa aug. 23rd
1219. # [10:41] <edmorley> phx: are you using ccache?
1220. # [10:41] <phx> don't know
1221. # [10:41] <edmorley> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/ccache
1222. # [10:42] <tbsaunde> phx: you should use git bisect so you don't need to check absolutely every commit, or you can just binary search manually if you like for some reason
1223. # [10:42] <phx> im using a binary search manually haha
1224. # [10:42] <phx> i was told to use bisect, but then i thought that meant binary search
1225. # [10:42] <phx> i'll look into that and ccache
1226. # [10:43] <phx> thanks!
1227. # [10:43] <edmorley> phx np :-)
1228. # [10:43] <edmorley> phx: there is work underway to improve the build system fwiw
1229. # [10:43] <edmorley> http://gregoryszorc.com/presentations/2012-11-29-firefox-build-system/ if you are interested
1230. # [10:45] <phx> is that presentation supposed to be only 3 slides long? or is it just not displaying correctly for me?
1231. # [10:45] <phx> haha
1232. # [10:45] <edmorley> it's like 40+ or something
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1236. # [10:48] <edmorley> I'm missing bugmail for a bug comment/closure a few hours ago; anyone else?
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1251. # [10:59] <mjrosenb> oh, I didn't notice that before
1252. # [11:00] <mjrosenb> robocop is failing locally because of .gdbinit
1253. # [11:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11fd34243cbd - Jonathan Kew - bug 820327 - work around potentially misleading backingScaleFactor returned by windows with zero area. r=roc
1254. # [11:00] <mjrosenb> well, the robocop directory is failing to build with other things
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1262. # [11:07] <cjones> edmorley, i've missed messages too
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1264. # [11:07] <edmorley> cjones: ah, thank you
1265. # [11:08] <edmorley> I'll file
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1267. # [11:08] <@dolske> I'm not sure if I would notice losing half my bugmail. :|
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1269. # [11:09] <edmorley> although all things considered, why am I filing a bug saying I haven't had enough bugmail...? :-)
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1273. # [11:12] <edmorley> filed bug 821640
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1278. # [11:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49545b3e71d6 - Henrik Skupin - Bug 796892 - Create Mochitest for Audio only connection (send/disconnect). r=jesup
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1288. # [11:26] <mjrosenb> is it just me, or am I no longer able to attach a patch while filing a new bug?
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1290. # [11:28] <jfkthame> doesn't the Add Attachment button work?
1291. # [11:29] <mjrosenb> yes, but I can set the file, its description and if it should be hidden
1292. # [11:29] <mjrosenb> nothing else.
1293. # [11:30] <mjrosenb> so I can't set its mime type
1294. # [11:30] <mjrosenb> or ask for a review
1295. # [11:30] <jfkthame> you need to "show advanced fields" at the top of the form
1296. # [11:31] <mjrosenb> gah
1297. # [11:31] <mjrosenb> that's what I get for changing my browser
1298. # [11:31] <mjrosenb> jfkthame: thanks.
1299. # [11:31] <jfkthame> interesting - wonder why the browser would affect it
1300. # [11:32] <jfkthame> i thought your bugzilla prefs would determine the default
1301. # [11:32] <mjrosenb> I would assume that it is stored in the session cookies?
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1304. # [11:33] <edmorley> or else localStorage for maximum sync-impact
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1308. # [11:33] <jfkthame> i guess i assumed the server stored your prefs as part of your account, but that'd be too old-fashioned
1309. # [11:33] <edmorley> hehe
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1318. # [11:51] <darktrojan> mak, do you ever sleep? looking at my bugmail recently it appears you do not
1319. # [11:51] <mak> darktrojan: I sleep a lot
1320. # [11:51] <mak> I'm like a cat
1321. # [11:52] <darktrojan> sleep, eat, and comment on bugs?
1322. # [11:52] <mak> but last night I had this param that was true, and became false... and you know...
1323. # [11:52] <darktrojan> heh
1324. # [11:52] <darktrojan> there is no spoon
1325. # [11:52] <mak> and now I see this TestXPTCInvoke that is not even compiled...
1326. # [11:53] <mak> and the temptation to make it run automatically is high
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1328. # [11:54] <darktrojan> as long as you fix the bug
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1333. # [12:04] <RattyAway> even with javascript.options.strict set to false, I'm still getting error messages like:
1334. # [12:04] <RattyAway> Timestamp: 14/12/12 7:06:33 PM
1335. # [12:04] <RattyAway> Warning: SyntaxError: test for equality (==) mistyped as assignment (=)?
1336. # [12:04] <RattyAway> Source File: http://mxr.mozilla.org/script.js
1337. # [12:04] <RattyAway> Line: 7, Column: 45
1338. # [12:04] <RattyAway> Source Code:
1339. # [12:04] <RattyAway> if (form = document.getElementById('source')) {
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1347. # [12:16] <mjrosenb> RattyAway: I think it is a known bug that things are ocassionally getting parsed in strict mode.
1348. # [12:18] <RattyAway> mjrosenb: Yeah but this only started recently... (I did check in safe-mode as well)
1349. # [12:19] <RattyAway> Hmm unless mxr.mozilla.org is now using "use strict"??
1350. # [12:20] <RattyAway> nope happens on other sites as well inc google.
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1353. # [12:21] <Manny_42> hi everyone
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1355. # [12:22] <Manny_42> i need some help on an extension dev is there someone
1356. # [12:22] <Manny_42> who can help ?
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1358. # [12:23] <jfkthame> sounds like a topic for #extdev
1359. # [12:23] <Manny_42> yeah i just saw this chan thx
1360. # [12:23] <Manny_42> sry
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1362. # [12:24] <mjrosenb> RattyAway: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=821103
1363. # [12:25] <RattyAway> mjrosenb:thanks
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1375. # [12:42] <darktrojan> Archaeopteryx, ping
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1377. # [12:42] <Archaeopteryx> darktrojan: pong
1378. # [12:43] <darktrojan> your keys not working bug is not my fault!
1379. # [12:43] <darktrojan> I just repro'd it without my addon
1380. # [12:43] <Archaeopteryx> doh!
1381. # [12:43] <Archaeopteryx> should i file it and cc you?
1382. # [12:44] <darktrojan> er, well I have no idea what is actually the problem
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1384. # [12:44] <darktrojan> but that website loads something about 20s after the page loads, and that seems to kill ctrl-l
1385. # [12:45] <Archaeopteryx> interesting
1386. # [12:45] <darktrojan> I did find a weird bug in tab badge, but not that one
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1391. # [12:50] <Yoric> Do we have any specific issue with TryServer at the moment?
1392. # [12:51] <Yoric> Or, as is more likely, did I get my commit message wrong for my first attempt to get some robocop tests executed?
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1395. # [12:53] <edmorley> Yoric: link please
1396. # [12:53] <Yoric> Actually, jfkthame just helped me off-channel.
1397. # [12:54] <Yoric> I had made the mistake of attempting to run the unit tests on a debug build, rather than an optimized build.
1398. # [12:54] <Yoric> Silly me.
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1400. # [12:54] <jfkthame> Yoric: fwiw, because the coverage is so … fragmentary … what i do is look at existing pushes that asked for "everything" to see what actually gets run, and then pick a subset of that
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1403. # [12:55] <edmorley> Yoric: ah yeah (iirc the debug build tests were crashy)
1404. # [12:55] <edmorley> hence turned off
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1410. # [13:00] <edmorley> I think it was as much that they took too long for the tegras and/or OOMed
1411. # [13:00] <jfkthame> isn't that the standard and simplest solution? "this test crashes" … "ok, then don't run it" … crash solved.
1412. # [13:00] <edmorley> lol
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1414. # [13:00] <edmorley> tada!
1415. # [13:00] <edmorley> for my next trick...
1416. # [13:00] <jfkthame> …you'll solve that linux bc orange :)
1417. # [13:01] <jfkthame> (i don't envy you, given how inbound has been missing test runs like crazy)
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1419. # [13:02] <edmorley> jfkthame: also both that crash and the xpcshell timeout now appear to be 80-90% failures rather than 100%, which threw off initial retriggers, due to a few unluckly placed greens
1420. # [13:02] <jfkthame> yeah, that sort of thing can be horribly confusing
1421. # [13:02] <edmorley> jfkthame: eg https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=6002b73474a7&jobname=Rev3%20WINNT%206.1%20mozilla-inbound%20debug%20test%20xpcshell and press down
1422. # [13:03] <jfkthame> when i saw you'd re-closed the tree, i paged down a bit and was horrified to see the mess
1423. # [13:03] <edmorley> sorry https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=021a624ea78e&jobname=Rev3%20WINNT%206.1%20mozilla-inbound%20debug%20test%20xpcshell even
1424. # [13:03] <edmorley> yeah
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1428. # [13:08] <past> edmorley: I'm guessing that you respawned Linux debug bc jobs on m-c?
1429. # [13:08] <edmorley> yeah
1430. # [13:08] <past> I was going to star it to bug 820493
1431. # [13:08] <past> there's one additional stack frame, but otherwise it's the exact same thing
1432. # [13:08] <edmorley> past: ah true
1433. # [13:08] <past> ok, starring
1434. # [13:09] <edmorley> past: I was thinking it looked similar to the mess on inbound, was just worried we'd let it escape to m-c
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1436. # [13:09] <past> oh, I haven't looked at inbound
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1438. # [13:09] <edmorley> past: put mochitest-browser-chrome in the filter, enable only unstarred (press 'u')
1439. # [13:10] <edmorley> and j / k through them
1440. # [13:10] <edmorley> (you don't have to, I mean, that's the clearest view atm)
1441. # [13:10] <edmorley> were one inclined
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1443. # [13:11] <past> all the failures in the chrome-debugging test are GC-related, so we need to get someone like billm and/or jimb to look at them
1444. # [13:13] <edmorley> sure; I've added needinfo?billm
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1446. # [13:13] <past> ok, thanks
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1448. # [13:13] <edmorley> arrrg the j/k keys being the other way around is breaking my muscle memory
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1462. # [13:34] <edmorley> joe_walker: the browser-chrome orange on m-c had another failure there that needs filing btw
1463. # [13:34] <edmorley> similar has occurred on inbound, just haven't got to that one to file it yet
1464. # [13:35] <joe_walker> was just looking
1465. # [13:35] <joe_walker> thanks
1466. # [13:35] <edmorley> joe_walker: although is immediately after the timeout, so guess same cause, so perhaps we just add "(and sometimes followed by ...)" to the summary of that bug
1467. # [13:36] <edmorley> the inbound instance follows the same pattern (after the timeout)
1468. # [13:37] <joe_walker> didn't see the inbound one. will check that out too
1469. # [13:39] <edmorley> joe_walker: it's on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=d78361a315b3
1470. # [13:40] <joe_walker> thanks
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1472. # [13:40] <edmorley> np
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1474. # [13:40] <edmorley> ha, that xpcshell timeout wasn't Neil after all, he was just extremely unlucky
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1477. # [13:42] <edmorley> 2 x green on the busted run before his push, then 6 purples in a row on his push onwards
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1481. # [13:49] <joe_walker> edmorley: we starred the inbound problem, think it was just bug 774619
1482. # [13:50] <edmorley> joe_walker: thank you :-)
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1484. # [13:52] <NeilAway> edmorley: xpcshell?
1485. # [13:54] <edmorley> NeilAway: bug 821685
1486. # [13:54] <NeilAway> edmorley: did you mean http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c603d181b69e ?
1487. # [13:54] <edmorley> sorry other Neil
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1496. # [13:59] <Yoric> khuey|away: ping
1497. # [13:59] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
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1499. # [14:00] <jimm> what is up with browser_dbg_chrome-debugging.js?
1500. # [14:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d45e252453e8 - Ed Morley - Backout 744b40b75241 (bug 807678) on suspicion of causing Win debug xpcshell timeouts on a CLOSED TREE
1501. # [14:02] <ttaubert> Yoric: hey
1502. # [14:03] <Yoric> ttaubert: Can I convince you to review the thumbnail patch?
1503. # [14:03] <Yoric> Pretty please?
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1507. # [14:08] <edmorley> jimm: retriggers pending
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1512. # [14:10] <jimm> edmorley: more of a general statement about that test. it breaks more often than it works. :/
1513. # [14:10] <edmorley> jimm: yeah agreed on that front
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1515. # [14:15] <ttaubert> Yoric: the async storage one?
1516. # [14:15] <Yoric> ttaubert: bug 753768
1517. # [14:16] <ttaubert> Yoric: yeah I meant that
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1519. # [14:17] <ttaubert> Yoric: I'll take a look!
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1521. # [14:17] <Yoric> Thanks.
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1526. # [14:20] <glazou> bonjour
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1546. # [14:37] <@bsmedberg> glandium: please let me know if you have hunches in bug 821353 ASAP
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1552. # [14:39] <bjacob> anyone knows pipes?
1553. # [14:40] <bjacob> I'm trying to write 50 M of data to a pipe, then read it
1554. # [14:40] <bjacob> seems like write() is stalling trying to write that much data to the pipe
1555. # [14:40] <bjacob> i could read() as I write() but that's a pita
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1557. # [14:41] <bjacob> should i give up on pipes and instead write to a mmapped file?
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1561. # [14:43] <bjacob> oh, i see, my problem is there is no way to allocate address space for my stuff without knowing its size in advance... im stupid
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1576. # [14:54] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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1579. # [14:57] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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1581. # [14:57] <yzen> Yoric: hi. re #812859 : as far as I can tell , based on the comments, just the warning method is necessary and I would go ahead with the url argument as well?
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1583. # [14:57] <Yoric> Yes, please.
1584. # [14:58] <Yoric> We might add more stuff later, but for this bug, just one method with a mandatory url.
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1586. # [14:58] <Yoric> I mean, one of the arguments is be a mandatory url.
1587. # [14:58] <Yoric> s/be//
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1591. # [14:59] <yzen> Yoric: thanks, ill go ahead with that then, and which directory would you say it fits in the code ?
1592. # [14:59] <Yoric> Good question.
1593. # [14:59] <Yoric> I would put it somewhere in toolkit/.
1594. # [14:59] <Yoric> Let me check.
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1596. # [15:00] <Yoric> yzen: Let's go for toolkit/content/. If people disagree with this location, we'll just move it later.
1597. # [15:01] <yzen> Yoric: sounds good, thanks!
1598. # [15:01] <Yoric> Thank you :)
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1600. # [15:01] <Yoric> Don't hesitate to ping me for any question.
1601. # [15:01] <yzen> Yoric: will do :)
1602. # [15:01] <Yoric> If I'm not answering immediately, it means that I am not in front of my machine, but you can leave messages.
1603. # [15:02] <yzen> Yoric: great, if something ill post a comment in the bugzilla
1604. # [15:02] <Yoric> Sounds good.
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1612. # [15:07] <jimm> bsmedberg: mike offered to take the review in bug 817881, is that ok with you?
1613. # [15:08] * NeilAway wonders whether bjacob meant a pipe(2) or some mozilla object
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1620. # [15:13] <bjacob> NeilAway: pipe(2)
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1624. # [15:14] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: pipes are buffered, so writing to a full pipe will fail
1625. # [15:15] <@bsmedberg> or block, depending on how it's set up
1626. # [15:15] <@bsmedberg> when it blocks, you can end up with deadlocks
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1628. # [15:16] <@bsmedberg> jimm: yeah, that's fine
1629. # [15:16] <bjacob> bsmedberg: yes, i just ran into this problem. i was wondering what my options were. seems like i'll just manually grow an array of chars in memory.
1630. # [15:17] <@bsmedberg> I guess it depends on what you're doing ;-)
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1632. # [15:17] <@bsmedberg> do you need it all to be contiguous?
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1634. # [15:17] <bjacob> it does not have to be contiguous. does that help?
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1661. # [15:30] <edmorley> Ok so looks like per window private browsing is to blame on inbound
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1666. # [15:33] <NeilAway> bjacob: yeah, there's a smallish (4K? maybe higher these days) limit on those, as I recall
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1668. # [15:34] <@bsmedberg> ted: grepping for "maps" in minidump_dump output doesn't show anything
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1670. # [15:34] <@bsmedberg> oh, MD_LINUX_MAPS
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1672. # [15:37] <padenot> NeilAway, bjacob, 4k is the size of an atomic write, and a pipe is actually 64k
1673. # [15:37] <padenot> on linux, that is
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1676. # [15:38] <NeilAway> padenot: only since 2.6.11
1677. # [15:38] <padenot> I believe we can assume bjacob runs a kernel newer that 2.6.11 :-)
1678. # [15:39] <NeilAway> padenot: I said "these days", because I last checked the size of a pipe about 20 years ago :-P
1679. # [15:39] <padenot> heh :-)
1680. # [15:39] <NeilAway> actually, probably nearer 25
1681. # [15:40] <padenot> I was not even born yet
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1683. # [15:41] <glazou> and 25 years later, we're still chasing bugs :-D
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1695. # [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8286fd779a20 - Ed Morley - Backout 020555b69f72 (bug 818732) on suspicion of causing frequent Linux mochitest-browser-chrome crashes on a CLOSED TREE
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1716. # [15:56] <hub> anyone with knowledge of breakpad
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1722. # [16:00] <Ms2ger> ted
1723. # [16:00] <hub> yeah ted would be the one :-)
1724. # [16:02] <hub> ted: looks like I can't build breakpad because of this error :-/ http://fpaste.org/F5RK/ - and Google-fu doesn't help
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1729. # [16:03] <edmorley> past: are you sure the crashes you starred on m-c are the same? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?onlyunstarred=1&rev=b11065872128
1730. # [16:04] <edmorley> past: and not the increase due to per window pb? (bug 821701)
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1732. # [16:04] <edmorley> which I'm about to back out
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1737. # [16:05] <Wes> Hey, any memshrink dudes in the house? I have a page which leaks memory (900K in three days according to about:memory) -- but it basically just basically 2K of HTML3.2 with a handful of images that reloads every few minutes. I can PM the URL but not publish it openly. Firefox 16, but I think it's been happening for a long time. Is there any point in trying to file a bug on this?
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1739. # [16:08] <gcp> Wes: is it reproducible to a testcase that could be made public?
1740. # [16:09] <Wes> gcp: ....I don't think so, unless I can figure out what triggers the bug. The page displays graphs which are generated server-side as images and need to stay private.
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1743. # [16:10] * Wes scratches his head
1744. # [16:10] <past> edmorley: the chrome-debugging ones? I think they are the same issue, but I don't know if pb has made things worse
1745. # [16:10] <edmorley> past: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=Rev3%20Fedora%2012%20mozilla-inbound%20debug%20test%20mochitest-browser-chrome&rev=b80437be0e70 and press down
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1747. # [16:12] <Wes> I wonder if it's caused because the page is a frameset with frames that reload via HTTP headers. *hmm*
1748. # [16:13] <past> edmorley: right, all these are GC-related, which I can imagine PB may have an impact on, but I htink we should file them in the same bug to make life easier for whoever tries to fix it
1749. # [16:13] <gcp> Wes: not sure what can be done then. you could perhaps abuse the security flag, but that would limit the people who can debug it severely, also not sure what others would think of that
1750. # [16:13] <edmorley> past: ok :-)
1751. # [16:13] <@ted> hub: how did you check out the source, just using svn?
1752. # [16:13] <@ted> that's an svn:external
1753. # [16:13] <@ted> (also I'm PTO today, but here for the moment)
1754. # [16:13] <firebot> Check-in:
1755. # [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f255406bb4aa - Ed Morley - Backout d9336f8c0f6c, 761ff8b47a4e, 072da0be4236, ee2822d2eab9, 38cd815da29a, a80ec6b90878 & 9e9281ce1b63 (bug 769288) on suspicion of causing bug 821701 on a CLOSED TREE
1756. # [16:14] <hub> ted: that's what I just realised by checking the commit logs :-(
1757. # [16:14] <hub> ted: I use git svn by default. habits die hard
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1759. # [16:14] <@ted> ah
1760. # [16:14] <@ted> yeah, i use hgsubversion
1761. # [16:14] <hub> I hate hg
1762. # [16:14] <@ted> just have to fiddle to make it work
1763. # [16:14] <hub> anyway
1764. # [16:14] <@ted> i'm ambivalent about git
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1766. # [16:14] <hub> I worked around
1767. # [16:14] <@ted> but i think we can both agree that we'd rather not use svn
1768. # [16:14] <hub> yep
1769. # [16:14] <hub> if I can avoid it
1770. # [16:14] <hub> could be worse, could be CVS
1771. # [16:15] <@ted> there are a bunch of other svn:externals, so you'll need to make sure they all get checked out
1772. # [16:15] <@ted> (or just bite the bullet and use svn to checkout)
1773. # [16:15] <davidb> Visual Source Safe!
1774. # [16:15] <@ted> ugh
1775. # [16:15] <davidb> :)
1776. # [16:15] <Wes> gcp: yeah. Frustrating. I could create a test case if I knew what the bug was. But then I wouldn't know to create the test case. Oh well, at least I now know that I can get my browser to stop beach-balling by closing that tab and clicking "minimize memory usage" in about:memory.... That fixes *me*, but I'd like to help others too if I can figure out how.
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1778. # [16:16] <hub> davidb: Visual Source unSafe
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1780. # [16:16] <hub> davidb: *hint* even MSFT does not use it
1781. # [16:16] <hub> or ClearCase
1782. # [16:16] <gcp> Wes: wait, so calling minimize solves it? then it's not really a leak?
1783. # [16:16] <@ted> ugh ugh
1784. # [16:16] <davidb> hub: yeah… comes with more tools for fixing the repo than actual regular tools
1785. # [16:16] <@ted> i used both ClearCase and VSS in my time at lockheed
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1788. # [16:17] <hub> ted: I was embarked as sysadmin on a project to use ClearCase. The server cost itself, but then they where cheap and wanted to use Samba instead of the recommended one
1789. # [16:17] <hub> that cost $$$$
1790. # [16:17] <Wes> gcp: it solves it, but only after closing the tab. But there is *no way* that tab should be using 900MB of RAM... 12 images, 200 bytes of text, 30 bytes of CSS, and 8 or 10 un-called JS functions.
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1792. # [16:18] <gcp> Wes: ok
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1794. # [16:18] <hub> ted: enjoy your PTO btw
1795. # [16:18] <edmorley> past: I'm happy for you to mark those bugs as dupes or whatever (if you feel appropriate - if you could tweak the summaries to make sure the test name(s) and/or stacks present
1796. # [16:18] <@ted> thx
1797. # [16:18] <@ted> sick baby
1798. # [16:18] <@ted> :-/
1799. # [16:18] <gcp> Wes: well, I think we'd have it rather filed abusing the security bug than not filed. But that's just me.
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1801. # [16:18] <past> edmorley: ok, will do
1802. # [16:18] <edmorley> thank you :-)
1803. # [16:18] <gcp> There are some long timers in this channel, they should speak up if they disagree :-)
1804. # [16:19] <Wes> gcp: ack. I'm also going to take a *stab* at creating a test case.
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1807. # [16:22] <phx> my build has been hanging for 40 minutes :(
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1809. # [16:22] <phx> i only know that because the system time has been frozen since 40 minutes ago lol
1810. # [16:23] <edmorley> what's the last line of output?
1811. # [16:23] <edmorley> not in webrtc / gyp perchance?
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1813. # [16:23] <phx> there's a rm -f libxul.so
1814. # [16:24] <phx> i've failed at this point before too
1815. # [16:24] <phx> then there's another line after that rm
1816. # [16:24] <@ted> oh
1817. # [16:24] <@ted> it's probably just linking libxul
1818. # [16:24] <@ted> how much ram do you have?
1819. # [16:24] <phx> 4 gigs
1820. # [16:24] <@ted> that ought to be enough, but it depends
1821. # [16:25] <phx> im on ubunti, installed through wubi
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1823. # [16:25] <phx> ubuntu*
1824. # [16:25] <phx> should i just let it run?
1825. # [16:25] <phx> my system is pretty much unresponsive
1826. # [16:26] <@bsmedberg> billm: ping
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1838. # [16:34] <jib> dolske: ping
1839. # [16:34] <avih> within chrome JS, can i use a default value with Services.prefs.getBoolPref("my.pref", myDefaultValue) ? it appears that this generates an exception if the pref doesn't exist whether i provide a default value or not.
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1841. # [16:35] <avih> (and works if the pref exists)
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1843. # [16:37] <jdm> avih: nope. you need to use try/catch there
1844. # [16:37] <avih> jdm: k, thx.
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1849. # [16:41] <gfritzsche> hm, anyone else seeing the in-page-context menu being offset downward on fx 18+?
1850. # [16:41] <gfritzsche> (osx here)
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1852. # [16:41] <gfritzsche> and 19 actually, not 18
1853. # [16:42] <gfritzsche> hm, went away with an update, weird
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1866. # [16:55] <mreavy> dolske: ping
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1881. # [17:08] <evilpie> i get "abort: path contains illegal component: /pymake/tests/native-touch.mk" while trying to hg update
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1883. # [17:08] <yzen> paul: I updated the patch for #803067
1884. # [17:09] <gregglind> Did anything change in arrowpanel styling over the last few releases of firefox?
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1887. # [17:09] <padenot> evilpie: hg update --clean
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1889. # [17:09] <@ehsan> edmorley: ping
1890. # [17:10] <edmorley> ehsan: hi
1891. # [17:10] <@ehsan> edmorley: hi
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1893. # [17:10] <@ehsan> edmorley: was your backout an investigating one?
1894. # [17:11] <@ehsan> or should I be worried?
1895. # [17:11] <edmorley> ehsan: nope
1896. # [17:11] <paul> yzen: awesome! Thanks :)
1897. # [17:11] <edmorley> ehsan: it unfortunately definitely is the cause
1898. # [17:11] <@ehsan> edmorley: which patch?
1899. # [17:11] <edmorley> ehsan: it might just be revealing an underlying issue, but unfortunately it's too frequent to leave in
1900. # [17:11] <edmorley> ehsan: see the bug
1901. # [17:11] <edmorley> bug 821701
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1904. # [17:12] <jdm> yeah, this is unfortunate all around
1905. # [17:12] <jdm> apologies for the hassles, edmorley
1906. # [17:12] <edmorley> that's ok, part and parcel :-)
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1908. # [17:13] <@ehsan> hmm
1909. # [17:13] <@ehsan> so these are gccrashes
1910. # [17:13] <edmorley> to be fair, if the debugger tests had been more reliable the last week, these crashes would have been easier to spot
1911. # [17:13] <@ehsan> happening during devtools tests
1912. # [17:13] <@khuey> Yoric: pong
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1914. # [17:13] <edmorley> ehsan: yes
1915. # [17:13] <edmorley> to spot on birch that is
1916. # [17:13] <@ehsan> the debugger tests have also been causing a ton of other crashes too
1917. # [17:14] <@ehsan> edmorley: the only change that per-window pb has made is to not run some tests and run others instead
1918. # [17:14] <edmorley> yes, they are quite possibly to blame (or at least some of the GC work that has landed in the last few weeks)
1919. # [17:14] <@ehsan> edmorley: which is pretty much what you saw when you disabled one of their tests and seeing another one go orange
1920. # [17:14] <edmorley> ehsan: ok, but we;ve gone from a 10% failure rate to a 90%
1921. # [17:14] <edmorley> (to pick numbers out of the air)
1922. # [17:14] <@ehsan> edmorley: yeah no I know
1923. # [17:15] <@ehsan> but the fix is to disable more of their tests
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1925. # [17:15] <@ehsan> not backing out patches which shuffle tests around :(
1926. # [17:15] <edmorley> ehsan: I don't normally disable tests for crashes
1927. # [17:15] <edmorley> crashes should be fixed
1928. # [17:15] <edmorley> and are not normally the cause of the test, I would have thought
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1930. # [17:15] <@ehsan> yeah I know
1931. # [17:16] <@ehsan> but I'm not sure just masking them out is of any help
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1933. # [17:17] <@ehsan> edmorley: also, that same test has been triggering no fewer than five other crash signatures
1934. # [17:17] <@ehsan> and some like 815133 are gc crashes
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1937. # [17:17] <@ehsan> honestly I would disable all of their tests at a heartbeat at this point
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1941. # [17:18] <@khuey> closed tree!
1942. # [17:18] * @khuey has a sad
1943. # [17:19] <@ehsan> edmorley: to give you more context, this is my changes to the devtools tests: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1995231
1944. # [17:19] <@ehsan> which is basically just shuffling tests around
1945. # [17:19] <@ehsan> and we have no JS change hidden behind MOZ_PER_WINDOW_PRIVATE_BROWSING at all
1946. # [17:19] <edmorley> oh really?
1947. # [17:19] <@ehsan> yes
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1949. # [17:20] <@ehsan> I am seriously considering disabling all debugger tests at this point
1950. # [17:20] * Optimizer1 is now known as Optimizer
1951. # [17:20] <edmorley> go for it
1952. # [17:20] <@ehsan> and ask the devtools team to disable the debugger too until they can fix their stuff
1953. # [17:20] <@ehsan> edmorley: (you know how many of these tests we've hunt down during the past couple of weeks...)
1954. # [17:20] <@ehsan> let me ping some people
1955. # [17:20] <@ehsan> joe_walker: ping
1956. # [17:21] <edmorley> ^past
1957. # [17:21] <joe_walker> hi
1958. # [17:21] <@ehsan> joe_walker: hi
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1960. # [17:21] <@ehsan> joe_walker: so I'm consdiering disabling all of the debugger tests at this point
1961. # [17:21] <@ehsan> joe_walker: and I think we should disable the debugger too by default
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1963. # [17:22] <joe_walker> ok
1964. # [17:22] <@ehsan> joe_walker: please see above for the context
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1966. # [17:22] * edmorley grabs a bag of the popcorn that's been slowly roasting on the burning tree all day
1967. # [17:22] <@ehsan> also see bug 821701
1968. # [17:23] <robcee> look, the crash that's occurring is almost certainly not the fault of the debugger itself
1969. # [17:23] <@ehsan> robcee: most likely
1970. # [17:23] <robcee> recent js engine changes seem to be triggered by a couple of our tests
1971. # [17:23] <@ehsan> and I'm not blaming the debugger for that
1972. # [17:23] <robcee> so disable the offending browser tests, but don't turn off the debugger
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1974. # [17:24] <@ehsan> robcee: yeah I only want to disable the tests, and I will leave what to do with the debugger itself to you guys :)
1975. # [17:24] * jlebar|away is now known as jlebar
1976. # [17:24] <joe_walker> i was jsut talking about past about it
1977. # [17:24] <@ehsan> my only interest is to not stop all development until these probems are fixed ;)
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1980. # [17:25] <@ehsan> joe_walker: robcee: so shall I go ahead? (I mean, once the tree is reopened probably)
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1982. # [17:26] <robcee> ehsan: are you going to disable all of the tests or just the failing ones?
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1984. # [17:26] <Yoric> khuey: Hi, if you have a minute, could you please review bug 820681? It's a one-liner.
1985. # [17:26] <robcee> I think there are only a couple of triggers, right?
1986. # [17:26] <joe_walker> one of the scenarios is that this is caused by gcli causing GC work
1987. # [17:27] <joe_walker> which the js engine recovers from during the debugger tests
1988. # [17:27] <@ehsan> robcee: I'd prefer to disable all debugger tests at this point to be honest :/
1989. # [17:27] <joe_walker> in which case disabling the debugger tests wouldn't solve anything
1990. # [17:27] <@ehsan> I mean we can start disabling tests one by one
1991. # [17:27] <victorporof> that would make the inspector tests to start failing
1992. # [17:27] <edmorley> ehsan: btw see this re shuffling tests around https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774619#c57
1993. # [17:27] <@ehsan> but given how slow our infra turnaround time is these days, that could take days
1994. # [17:27] <victorporof> if we then disable the inspector tests, layoutview will follow etc
1995. # [17:28] <robcee> yeah, that's not ideal
1996. # [17:28] <@ehsan> during which time other people will be blocked
1997. # [17:28] <robcee> do we know what caused the crashes to start?
1998. # [17:28] <@ehsan> no
1999. # [17:28] <joe_walker> if this is a gc delay, then no
2000. # [17:28] <joe_walker> gcli hasn't been changed for ages
2001. # [17:28] <@ehsan> edmorley: well but "shuffling" I mostly meant skip one test or run another test instead of it :)
2002. # [17:29] <joe_walker> BUT if the JS engine now delays gc more for some reason
2003. # [17:29] <@ehsan> yeah the JS engine could definitely be at fault here
2004. # [17:29] <joe_walker> one of the fixes that we were talking about, was simply making the gcli tests run more slowly
2005. # [17:29] <@ehsan> but we will not know without days of debugging/bisecting
2006. # [17:29] <robcee> we can't afford that
2007. # [17:30] <@ehsan> neither can others :)
2008. # [17:30] <kn__> is any other way to update the content of a frame besides nsContentUtils::SetNodeTextContent?
2009. # [17:30] <joe_walker> we don't know if gcli is causing the problems, but also disabling tests there could help
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2011. # [17:30] <robcee> ehsan: I meant the Big We.
2012. # [17:30] <@ehsan> true
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2015. # [17:31] <robcee> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820493
2016. # [17:31] <robcee> the crash signature look at all suspect to anyone?
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2022. # [17:35] <past> ehsan: isn't it just a single debugger test that is crashing?
2023. # [17:35] <@ehsan> edmorley: on a bit of a tangent, what's up with the tree? :)
2024. # [17:36] <@ehsan> past: it is now, but the crashes happen during gc
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2026. # [17:36] <edmorley> ehsan: in what sense? what are we waiting for to reopen?
2027. # [17:36] <past> if you guys want to disable the chrome-debugging test, that's fine with me
2028. # [17:36] <@ehsan> past: and in our experience, disabling one test in this series has triggered the next one to fail
2029. # [17:36] <@ehsan> edmorley: yep
2030. # [17:36] <@ehsan> past: yeah that's what I was proposing to do
2031. # [17:37] <robcee> can we get some bug dependencies in bug 821701 so we can see what is the source of these failures?
2032. # [17:37] <past> the chrome-debugging test is sort of special
2033. # [17:37] <kn__> is it possible to find with MXR all classes that inherit a specific class?
2034. # [17:37] <robcee> I can certainly go through the debugger component and file things that have been frequent
2035. # [17:37] <edmorley> ehsan: retriggers on inbound tip
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2039. # [17:37] <robcee> past: how so, because of the extra process or some other specialness?
2040. # [17:37] <@ehsan> edmorley: what about central?
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2042. # [17:38] <edmorley> ehsan: same, since had the csets from inbound too
2043. # [17:38] <past> robcee: because it's the only bc test that exercises the chrome debugger
2044. # [17:38] <edmorley> ehsan: imagine 15 mins tops
2045. # [17:38] <robcee> past: ah, well yes :)
2046. # [17:39] <@ehsan> past: robcee: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1995275 this is my proposal to be clear
2047. # [17:39] <@ehsan> edmorley: great, thanks!
2048. # [17:39] <robcee> oof
2049. # [17:39] <robcee> that's a pretty big hammer :(
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2051. # [17:39] <@ehsan> (sorry for writing that patch...)
2052. # [17:39] <robcee> do it if you need to get the tree open
2053. # [17:39] <@ehsan> :(
2054. # [17:39] <past> I don't think this is necessary
2055. # [17:40] <robcee> we can gather data while you try to green the tree up
2056. # [17:40] <@ehsan> robcee: of course, but lets do that on try
2057. # [17:40] <robcee> it seems excessive, but if we end up bisecting our tests, we'll be waiting for days
2058. # [17:40] <@ehsan> or somewhere other than m-c
2059. # [17:40] <edmorley> robcee: the tree will soon be open, ehsan would like to do it so he can reland per window private browsing
2060. # [17:40] <robcee> ehsan: fx-team?
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2062. # [17:40] <past> all I've been starring since m-i was closed are failures of a single debugger test
2063. # [17:40] <@ehsan> robcee: yeah, I dont watch fx-team ;)
2064. # [17:40] <edmorley> past: please see bug 821701
2065. # [17:41] <@ehsan> past: during the past couple of weeks, we've been disabling more and more devtools tests one by one
2066. # [17:41] <edmorley> past: per window private browsing raised the failure rate from 10% to 90%
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2068. # [17:41] <@ehsan> we just don't have enough time to disable this one test and then see the next one crash
2069. # [17:41] <edmorley> past: (plus or minus on the exact numbers)
2070. # [17:41] <@khuey> Yoric: what is the point of this patch?
2071. # [17:41] <edmorley> ehsan: the others weren't crashes though, they were timeouts
2072. # [17:42] <@bz_sleep> glandium: ping
2073. # [17:42] <@bz_sleep> tbsaunde: ping
2074. # [17:42] <@ehsan> past: the only devtools change in per-window PB is to not run three devtools tests and run another one instead of one of them
2075. # [17:42] <glandium> bz_sleep: pong
2076. # [17:42] <Yoric> khuey: Ensure that in case of error, we do not leave empty strings in OS.Constants.Path.
2077. # [17:42] <Yoric> ("error" as in "profile dir is not defined yet")
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2079. # [17:42] <@ehsan> edmorley: true, but I have no evidence to believe that these crashes are triggered by something done by that one test
2080. # [17:42] <edmorley> true
2081. # [17:42] <robcee> edmorley: I am suspicious of your 10-90% rate
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2083. # [17:42] <@bz_sleep> glandium: did the build bustage get sorted out for you?
2084. # [17:42] * bz_sleep is now known as bz
2085. # [17:43] <robcee> if you have charts and graphs I would love to see them
2086. # [17:43] <edmorley> robcee: for this particular crash on this particular platform
2087. # [17:43] <@ehsan> and the thing that I'm fighting for here is to ship per-window PB in 20
2088. # [17:43] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
2089. # [17:43] <@ehsan> we won't have a chance to do that if it gets disabled in Nightly now
2090. # [17:43] <edmorley> robcee: please see the filtered tbpl links in bug 821701
2091. # [17:43] <joe_walker> robcee: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=Rev3%20Fedora%2012%20mozilla-inbound%20debug%20test%20mochitest-browser-chrome&rev=b80437be0e70
2092. # [17:43] <@ehsan> especially since we ended up moving birch nightly users to the nightly channel yesterday
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2094. # [17:43] <past> I'm all for landing per-window PB fwiw
2095. # [17:44] <glandium> bz: tbsaunde found the solution
2096. # [17:44] <edmorley> robcee: (and press down twice on the link joe_walker gave)
2097. # [17:44] <robcee> are we running all of our unittests on the pb window?
2098. # [17:44] <joe_walker> just what i was thinking
2099. # [17:45] <past> edmorley: I read bug 821701 but I don't think I see what you want me to see
2100. # [17:45] <robcee> like, running them once and then running them A WHOLE other time?
2101. # [17:45] <past> I still see a single test crashing
2102. # [17:45] <@ehsan> robcee: see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/styleeditor/test/Makefile.in#49 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/webconsole/test/Makefile.in#120 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/commandline/test/Makefile.in#56
2103. # [17:45] <Callek> grr what pref was it to enable javascript: in the urlbar
2104. # [17:45] <@ehsan> those are the only test differences
2105. # [17:45] <@bz> glandium: ok. Did it get checked in? ;)
2106. # [17:45] <edmorley> past: that's what we're talking about
2107. # [17:45] * edmorley gives me
2108. # [17:45] <Callek> apparantly my bookmarklets broke somewhere
2109. # [17:45] <gfritzsche> hm, can i still get esr10 changes to build on try?
2110. # [17:45] <edmorley> s/me/up/
2111. # [17:45] <robcee> I see
2112. # [17:45] <robcee> so we have some subset of files in each subdir for this
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2114. # [17:46] <@ehsan> robcee: note that all but the first link are *after* the crashing test
2115. # [17:46] <past> edmorley: right, so let's just disable that one test and land per-window PB, right?
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2117. # [17:46] <@ehsan> robcee: sorry, s/first/last/
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2119. # [17:46] <NeilAway> avih: there's no default value in the getter, only in all.js (or per-app defaults)
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2121. # [17:47] <@ehsan> past: and what shall we do after we see the crashes move to the next test?
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2123. # [17:47] <Callek> edmorley: sooo one of said bookmarklets I was trying to use is teh "showJobInMaster" one so you might know the magic
2124. # [17:47] <past> ehsan: what makes you think that will happen?
2125. # [17:47] <@ehsan> past: my experience during the past two weeks
2126. # [17:47] <robcee> now now
2127. # [17:47] <past> ehsan: which other tests were crashing?
2128. # [17:47] <robcee> I'm with past on this being an unusual test
2129. # [17:47] <@ehsan> guys
2130. # [17:47] <robcee> (the dbg_chrome_debugging) thing
2131. # [17:48] <@ehsan> we have *no* evidence to believe that the cause of the crash lives in that one test
2132. # [17:48] <@ehsan> it is a gc crash
2133. # [17:48] <glandium> bz: i don't know, i'mgoing though my bugmail right now
2134. # [17:48] <@ehsan> so theoretically it will be affected by everything happening before it
2135. # [17:48] <robcee> it just happens there consistently
2136. # [17:48] <@khuey> edmorley: can I reopen inbound?
2137. # [17:48] <edmorley> Callek: I use the noscript addon which has "noscript.allowURLBarJS", not sure what you use without it
2138. # [17:48] <robcee> and that test does haul a lot of stuff into js when it gathers up scripts for everything in the browser
2139. # [17:48] <@ehsan> robcee: ok fine. I'll disable just that one test
2140. # [17:48] <robcee> ehsan: let's try disabling the chrome debugger test first please
2141. # [17:49] <avih> NeilAway: thanks, i used try/catch already. not sure how much of a performance hit is it though. if it's much, i might need to cache the value once per window on the first time, which is still reasonable for this specific value.
2142. # [17:49] <@ehsan> no point in debating this longer
2143. # [17:49] <robcee> ok, thanks
2144. # [17:49] <past> ehsan: I don't think observation backs your assertion, but in the interest of moving forward, disable anything you need and we'll fix it later
2145. # [17:49] <robcee> if it persists I'll eat an object of your choosing
2146. # [17:49] * @khuey votes for a shoe!
2147. # [17:49] <robcee> (I'm gonna regret that)
2148. # [17:49] <@ehsan> robcee: can we just assume r=you to disable any possible future cascade of this crash?
2149. # [17:49] <robcee> ehsan: yessir
2150. # [17:49] <@ehsan> cool
2151. # [17:49] <edmorley> khuey: I've just reopened
2152. # [17:49] <@ehsan> past: I gave up, I'll just disable that one test
2153. # [17:50] <@khuey> woo!
2154. # [17:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67d84be0cc83 - William Chen - Bug 820544 - Prefix webidl dictionary native members names to avoid C++ keywords. r=bz
2155. # [17:50] <robcee> (within the scope of this problem, limited to 1 week from today)
2156. # [17:50] <@khuey> dude
2157. # [17:50] <@khuey> wtf
2158. # [17:50] <edmorley> froydnj: that was quick
2159. # [17:50] <past> ehsan: heh, we both did!
2160. # [17:50] <robcee> ((how many extra riders should I tack onto that))? :)
2161. # [17:50] <edmorley> froydnj: you script that?
2162. # [17:50] <@khuey> froydnj--
2163. # [17:50] <@ehsan> robcee: I'm mostly talking about today, I'll be away half of next week ;)
2164. # [17:50] <froydnj> edmorley: no, serendipitous
2165. # [17:50] <edmorley> khuey: he beat me as well, and I knew when I was reopened!
2166. # [17:50] <edmorley> ing
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2168. # [17:50] <robcee> ehsan: ah, ok then :) no more riders required.
2169. # [17:51] <robcee> ehsan: do you want us to write the patch to disable that test or are you on it?
2170. # [17:51] <froydnj> edmorley: do you need me to back that out? or are you engaging in some khuey-style grousing about losing push wars? :)
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2172. # [17:51] <@ehsan> robcee: I'm doing it
2173. # [17:52] <edmorley> froydnj: latter :-)
2174. # [17:52] <robcee> ok, thank you
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2176. # [17:52] <robcee> keep us posted (and I know you will!) ;)
2177. # [17:52] <@ehsan> will do :)
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2179. # [17:52] <@ehsan> thanks
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2181. # [17:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08f9c8a1c7e7 - Kyle Huey - Bug 820971: Ignore the ref when checking to see if the image URI is the document URI. r=bz
2182. # [17:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71759cb2a7d9 - Kyle Huey - Bug 820476: Allow postMessage on pending workers. r=bent
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2188. # [17:53] <glandium> bz: looks like t didn't
2189. # [17:54] <glandium> tbsaunde: care to take 821618? ;)
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2191. # [17:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4da3fe4a9da - Brian Hackett - Bug 821151 - Add splay tree utility class, r=luke.
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2194. # [17:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/86e8b382ab0a - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 7: Use separate SSL session cache entries for private connections. r=mayhemer
2195. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cf442d34b4fa - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 4: Clear SSL session cache upon leaving private browsing. r=bsmith
2196. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e2f772661bdf - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 5: Close private socket connections when the lsat private browsing instance dies. r=bsmith,mcmanus
2197. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2798371f1650 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 818732 - Switch Nightly to per-window private browsing; r=jdm
2198. # [17:56] <@bz> glandium: just making sure it's not waiting on my review or something
2199. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8d86cc44bcee - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 2: Avoid storing intermediate cert data for private contexts. r=bsmith sr=mayhemer
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2201. # [17:56] <ttaubert> Yoric: ping
2202. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/919c713155ac - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 1: Make PSM more amenable to storing concurrent private and non-private data. r=bsmith
2203. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2c246a220cf5 - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 3: Clear all temporary cert overrides upon leaving private browsing. r=bsmith
2204. # [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f603bf0ba354 - Josh Matthews - Bug 769288 - Part 6: Remove global private browsing NSS cleanup on exit. r=ehsan
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2206. # [17:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/72cc10ffa8e2 - Ehsan Akhgari - Disable browser_dbg_chrome-debugging.js because of the crashes in bug 821701, irc-r=robcee
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2208. # [17:57] <Yoric> ttaubert: can I pong you in 1h?
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2211. # [17:58] <ttaubert> Yoric: sure :)
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2215. # [17:58] <edmorley> !!
2216. # [17:58] <edmorley> tree closed for best part of the day... first changeset landed breaks it again
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2218. # [17:59] <mfinkle> \o/
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2220. # [17:59] <Optimizer> is the newtab preload disabled ?
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2223. # [17:59] <Optimizer> I see the newtab flashing everytime
2224. # [17:59] <Optimizer> (I mean even after setting the pref on)
2225. # [18:00] <glandium> bz: now it's waiting for your review ;)
2226. # [18:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15e83fa70172 - Ed Morley - Backout 67d84be0cc83 (bug 820544) for bustage
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2232. # [18:01] <Optimizer> jaws: any idea ?
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2234. # [18:01] <ttaubert> Optimizer: wfm
2235. # [18:02] <jaws> ttaubert is the author, so i'll take his word ;)
2236. # [18:02] <jaws> but we really need to get that enabled by default
2237. # [18:02] <Optimizer> :D
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2239. # [18:02] <Optimizer> well I toggled it twice, and it is workign again
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2241. # [18:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3173175efff1 - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 634793: update NSPR to NSPR_4_9_5_BETA1 and add the TestPRIntN.cpp
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2243. # [18:03] <@khuey> froydnj--
2244. # [18:03] <ttaubert> jaws: yeah...
2245. # [18:03] <@khuey> froydnj: you broke the build
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2247. # [18:04] <froydnj> khuey: doh
2248. # [18:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c74122a6fcf - Michal Novotny - Bug 808997 - Explicitly close all output and input streams of all active cache entries during shutdown, r=hurley
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2254. # [18:05] <froydnj> backing out, then
2255. # [18:05] <edmorley> froydnj: already done
2256. # [18:05] <froydnj> edmorley++
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2258. # [18:06] <edmorley> :-)
2259. # [18:06] * NeilAway wonders why it's always the same 8 changesets getting landed and backed out
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2279. # [18:11] <avih> dao: why did u remove r+ for bug 820167 ?
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2281. # [18:12] * NeilAway wonders why avih set it in the first place
2282. # [18:12] <@dolske> indeed
2283. # [18:12] <avih> NeilAway: i though that's how i should ask for a review of it... what else should i have done?
2284. # [18:13] <edmorley> avih: review?
2285. # [18:13] <avih> edmorley: ?
2286. # [18:13] <edmorley> avih: as in, use "?" not "+"
2287. # [18:13] <avih> ah. ok :)
2288. # [18:14] <edmorley> avih: on the various bugzilla flags, the question mark means pending, "+" approved, "-" denied
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2290. # [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8be8785e3a7 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 819429 - Remove assertion allowing aToken to be NULL in nsNSSCertificateDB::FindCertByDBKey. r=bsmith
2291. # [18:14] <avih> edmorley: k, got it. thanks.
2292. # [18:14] <billm> edmorley: ping
2293. # [18:14] <avih> edmorley: so since the review flag was removed, should i now add ? for review?
2294. # [18:15] <edmorley> avih: you also need to set someone's email address when you use "?", to direct it to someone (otherwise it will get overlooked)
2295. # [18:15] <edmorley> avih: yes
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2297. # [18:15] <edmorley> billm: hi :-)
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2301. # [18:15] <avih> edmorley: ok, i'll find out who should do the review then. cheers.
2302. # [18:15] <billm> edmorley: hi. is there a changeset I could build with where bc tests will fail somewhat reliably?
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2304. # [18:16] <billm> edmorley: (from that debugger thing)
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2307. # [18:17] <past> billm: 49545b3e71d6 in Linux debug should be a safe bet
2308. # [18:17] <edmorley> bilm: yup, m-c tip with https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/72cc10ffa8e2 reverted
2309. # [18:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8afa0fd12d00 - Robert Longson - Bug 820629 - animateTransform should not animate non-transform-type attributes (follow-up to correct type) r=dholbert
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2311. # [18:18] <edmorley> billm: linux32 debug
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2313. # [18:18] <billm> edmorley: wait, why does that patch have anything to do with the crash?
2314. # [18:18] <edmorley> billm: it doesn't, the crash only happened in that test
2315. # [18:18] <edmorley> billm: so after narrowing down the increase in failure rate to the per window private browsing landing
2316. # [18:19] <billm> edmorley: are you sure that's the right changeset? it's some change in SVG C++ code?
2317. # [18:19] <edmorley> billm: and backing out, it was decided to reland it but just disable the test
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2321. # [18:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff71c0ea0cb2 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 815010 - Create lazy interpreted function's script in the jsdbg API's JS_GetFunctionScript. r=luke
2322. # [18:20] <past> billm: I think you looked at firebot's link, not edmorley's
2323. # [18:20] <edmorley> past: good spot :-)
2324. # [18:21] <billm> ah! ok, thanks :-)
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2326. # [18:21] <past> :-)
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2328. # [18:21] <billm> ok, I'll look into this
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2330. # [18:21] <billm> thanks guys
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2334. # [18:21] <past> billm: it's actually us thanking you!
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2336. # [18:22] <edmorley> billm: thank you! :-D
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2341. # [18:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95d847321295 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 742794 - check host/port before starting gecko instance in marionette client, r=mdas
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2350. # [18:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/037377a4cd23 - Raymond Lee - Bug 806711 - Port do_test_placesTitleNoUpdate.js to the new per-window PB APIs; r=jdm
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2352. # [18:31] <ferjm> mayhemer, ping
2353. # [18:31] <mayhemer> ferjm: yes
2354. # [18:32] <ferjm> mayhemer, hi! can you point me to the test that you are mentioning in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819971#c7 that I can use as a template, please?
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2356. # [18:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/627a842914d0 - Asaf Romano - Bug 675902 - Implement the new Downloads view for the places Library window; r=mak
2357. # [18:33] <mayhemer> ferjm: check test_bug744719.html
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2359. # [18:34] <Ms2ger> ehsan, another try?
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2362. # [18:34] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: yeah hopefully the last one!
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2364. # [18:34] <ferjm> mayhemer, great, thanks! :)
2365. # [18:34] <mayhemer> ferjm: np :)
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2367. # [18:35] <@smaug> ehsan: so espindola's tryserver results look good. Do you have some more concerns about not running CC during shutdown?
2368. # [18:35] <@ehsan> smaug: not concrete ones, no
2369. # [18:35] <@ehsan> smaug: perhaps we should give it a shot?
2370. # [18:36] <@ehsan> smaug: (we can always back it out if it proves to cause problems in practice)
2371. # [18:36] <@smaug> yeah, I'm about to update the patch and ask review from mccr8
2372. # [18:36] <@smaug> yup
2373. # [18:36] <@bz> glandium: r=me. Sorry for lag..
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2375. # [18:36] <@ehsan> cool
2376. # [18:37] <glandium> bz: np
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2379. # [18:38] <@ehsan> edmorley: sorry for stepping on your toes in bug 821701 :/
2380. # [18:38] <@ehsan> edmorley: I can file a different bug if you want me to
2381. # [18:38] <edmorley> ehsan: nah it's fine :-)
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2384. # [18:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8d79efc8541 - Mike Hommey - Bug 789469 - Get the executable path directly from the directory service instead of guesswork in WindowsJumpLists.jsm. r=jimm
2385. # [18:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b334850ce94 - Mike Hommey - Bug 821618 - Fix build failure with some compilers due to nsComputedDOMStyle::GetPropertyCSSValue definition. r=bz
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2389. # [18:43] <tbsaunde> glandium: hey, sorry I didn't write the bustage fix, I figured you where goingto ask for review since you checked it :)
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2400. # [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0abc1aafaca - Jim Mathies - Bug 814953 - Cleanup Win nsWindow WindowProcInternal and move the window ref up above DealWithPopups. r=roc
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2402. # [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54a33584098a - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=821230; crash in nsRefreshDriver::SetHighPrecisionTimersEnabled during xpcom shutdown; r=ehsan
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2416. # [18:54] <gfritzsche> edmorley: great starring comments on esr10 :D
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2422. # [18:56] <edmorley> gfritzsche: :-)
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2431. # [18:58] <jwir3> what -j switch does mach use by default?
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2433. # [18:59] <jwir3> (I know it changed recently, but I'm wondering if it uses the number of physical cores by default or the number of cores visible to the OS)
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2435. # [19:00] <NeilAway> glandium: does that get the executable or bundle on the Mac?
2436. # [19:00] <jwir3> (e.g. if I have a QuadCore machine, does mach use -j4 or -j8... since I can apparently see 8 cores in my system menus... perhaps due to hyperthreading or something)
2437. # [19:00] <gps> jwir3: whatever is visible to the OS
2438. # [19:00] <jwir3> gps: cool. thanks
2439. # [19:01] <glandium> NeilAway: the executable
2440. # [19:01] <NeilAway> glandium: ah, nm
2441. # [19:01] <glandium> NeilAway: and it's a windows only file anyways
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2444. # [19:02] <NeilAway> glandium: no, I wanted to use it from JS
2445. # [19:02] <NeilAway> (the call, not the file)
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2509. # [19:28] <firebot> Check-in:
2510. # [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/972ff78e9907 - Jim Blandy - Bug 819049: JS debugging protocol: replace 'nameAndParameters' request with 'parameterNames'; replace GripClient.prototype.getSignature with
2511. # [19:28] <firebot> GripClient.prototype.getParameterNames. r=past
2512. # [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62d11f7658cc - Jim Blandy - Bug 819049: JS debugging protocol: drop 'calleeName' and 'functionName' properties from frame and environment forms. r=past
2513. # [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/909ffcf23f83 - Jim Blandy - Bug 819049: JS debugging protocol: provide 'name', 'displayName', and 'userDisplayName' properties on function grips. r=past
2514. # [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3686e1e8845f - Jim Blandy - Bug 819049: JS debugging protocol: use 'name', 'displayName', and 'userDisplayName' properties on function grips. r=past
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2520. # [19:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df953ce7ba31 - Jim Chen - Bug 818715 - Coalesce restartInput calls in GeckoInputConnection; r=cpeterson
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2526. # [19:35] <evilpie> jst: Bug 808792 some decision yet? i think i am just going to wont fix it at this point
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2528. # [19:37] <jst> evilpie: sorry, never got around to dealing with that, but I am leaning towards not fixing that
2529. # [19:37] <jst> evilpie: sorry :(
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2531. # [19:39] <evilpie> ok
2532. # [19:39] <evilpie> nothing holding me back from using it in my own builds :)
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2610. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c833cab38b08 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 816375. Switch NodeFilter to WebIDL bindings. r=peterv
2611. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53b604b60d25 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 818379. Make sure interface objects have a 'length' property even if they're not real function objects. r=peterv
2612. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91a7872bb725 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 821438. Allow inheritance from interfaces with Unforgeable attributes. r=peterv
2613. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a54055d75da7 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 819904. Throw from WebIDL setters called with no arguments, per spec change. r=peterv
2614. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b9ffa4e1e64 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 820902. nsAttrValue::Equals should do ASCII-case-insensitive compares when it's doing case-insensitive compares. r=sicking
2615. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/040f5d35fa6a - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 821760. Properly handle compartments in WebIDL static operation bindings. r=peterv
2616. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e0b4ce62d6d - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 816380. Convert XPathEvaluator to WebIDL. r=peterv
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2618. # [20:23] <Wraithan> Howdy, I am on the webdev team and I get asked about this bug from other web developers when I mention I work at mozilla on a not infrequent basis. It seems like something that would have been fixed by now because it does make styling a bit harder. https://bugzil.la/649849
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2627. # [20:25] <glandium> mochitest-chrome tests all ending with "finished in a non-clean fashion, probably because it didn't call SimpleTest.finish()" locally, does that ring anyone's bell?
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2629. # [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0b6350b8b24 - Joel Maher - Bug 805404 - docshell/test/test_bug590573.html fails on panda boards. r=jlebar
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2632. # [20:28] <Matti> Wraithan: the bug got spammed by some idiots...
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2634. # [20:28] <tbsaunde> a7arg why doesn't -P foobar imply --no-remote when there's no running firefox whose profile is foobar?
2635. # [20:28] <Wraithan> Matti: doesn't mean it isn't a completely valid bug
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2637. # [20:28] <Matti> sure but spammed bugs tend to get ignored
2638. # [20:29] <@khuey> tbsaunde: because no-remote turns off some os integration type stuff too iirc
2639. # [20:29] <mjrosenb> khuey: yes, but it doesn't launch a firefox with the specified profile
2640. # [20:30] <@bz> Wraithan: it requires a complete rewrite of how we implement <select>
2641. # [20:30] <mjrosenb> khuey: usually I care more about the new profile than some bits of OS integration.
2642. # [20:30] <@bz> Wraithan: And per spec it _is_ invalid, fwiw.
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2645. # [20:30] <@bz> Wraithan: But basically, it's been a low priority and everyone who coul fix it has bigger fish to fry...
2646. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f75a9f57c14e - Fabrice Desré - Bug 820456 - Installing a big packaged app could kill the homescreen and make the phone unresponsive [r=ferjm]
2647. # [20:31] <@bz> Wraithan: I do recommend filing a new bug on this, though, because of the spammers. :(
2648. # [20:32] <Archaeopteryx> but don't file it yourself
2649. # [20:33] <Wraithan> bz: And lose all the people who have CC'd themselves to see when this is fixed. Doesn't sound ideal, but if that is what it takes I'll gladly do it
2650. # [20:33] <jdm> Wraithan: a note can be posted to the original one if the new one does end up being fixed. it's not a big deal.
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2652. # [20:34] <Wraithan> bz: also no one in that ticket, unless I missed something, mentions that it breaks spec to make this work in the same way as webkit
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2655. # [20:35] <@bz> Wraithan: per spec, form controls are completely opaque and styling them should not work period.
2656. # [20:35] <jdm> Callek: are you up on android infrastructure problems? do the various failures on m-c on 4.0 look like that sort of thing to you?
2657. # [20:35] <@bz> Wraithan: Basically, that bug is a hostile work environment.
2658. # [20:35] <@bz> Wraithan: I would not want to be assignee, and I would not ask anyone else to do it either.
2659. # [20:35] <@bz> Wraithan: so if we want it fixed, we need a different bug.
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2661. # [20:35] <@bz> Wraithan: once we fix it, we can still resolve this one fixed, so the people on the cc list will know.
2662. # [20:35] <Callek> jdm: almost all are hideable
2663. # [20:36] <Callek> jdm: I'll 302 on which ones to jmaher
2664. # [20:36] <Wraithan> bz: Sounds like something the firefox team should take care of, making new bugs when others get too hostile, rather than the community
2665. # [20:36] <jimm> glandium: which tests?
2666. # [20:36] <jimm> all of them?
2667. # [20:36] <glandium> jimm: all
2668. # [20:36] <Callek> jdm: (we turned on a whole bunch just this AM, and had issues getting them shown until ~ now)
2669. # [20:36] <@bz> Wraithan: There is no "firefox team" for this purpose.
2670. # [20:36] <jimm> oh hmm. nm then.
2671. # [20:36] <@bz> Wraithan: we're all in this together. ;)
2672. # [20:36] <Wraithan> bz: I open another bug and I'm likely to get duplicate bug and closed.
2673. # [20:37] <Wraithan> bz: someone respected on the other hand won't have that issue.
2674. # [20:37] <jmaher> jdm: m4-8 should be green; likewise c* and j* will be green; all else should be hidden right now
2675. # [20:37] <jdm> Wraithan: not if you include justification for not duping it up front
2676. # [20:37] <@bz> Wraithan: If you say in comment 0 _why_ you're opening the bug, yu might not.
2677. # [20:37] <@bz> That said....
2678. # [20:37] <Wraithan> bz: 'might not'
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2680. # [20:37] <@bz> Until bugzilla is fixed to not suck, anyone "respected" won't want to file a bug on something like this anyway.
2681. # [20:37] <@bz> Because of the spammers...
2682. # [20:37] <@bz> So it's all bad.
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2684. # [20:38] <@bz> One option is to file the new bug security-sensitive or something...
2685. # [20:38] * @bz shrugs
2686. # [20:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11e520752312 - Ian Patterson - Bug 712748 - uriloader did not recognize ".jpg" filename extension because Android returned ".jpeg". r=cpeterson
2687. # [20:38] <@smaug> BenWa: curious, what else is taking time during shutdown ?
2688. # [20:38] <@bz> The real correct approach is to do nothing until there's a patch, then file a new bug, attach the patch, and check it in.
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2690. # [20:38] <glob> bz, sorry :( moco-confidential would be better than using a sec group
2691. # [20:38] <@smaug> I mean else than CC/GC
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2694. # [20:38] <@bz> glob: I _really_ wish you could "unsubscribe" from bugs you reported
2695. # [20:39] <@bz> glob: that would significantly lower the barrier on fixing up messes like this.
2696. # [20:39] <dholbert> bz, filters FTW!
2697. # [20:39] <Wraithan> bz: so basically that means it will never get fixed. since it wont get annyone assigned to it.
2698. # [20:39] <@bz> glob: right now it carries a hefty penalty.
2699. # [20:39] <glob> bz, i also wish you could do that!
2700. # [20:39] <BenWa> smaug: Up next is going to be add-ons destructor which we don't have good numbers on. Plugin destruction taking 100ms per instance and page listening to events like page hide
2701. # [20:39] <@bz> Wraithan: I think you misunderstand how things get fixed.
2702. # [20:39] <@bz> Wraithan: something getting fixed doesn't involve anyone being assigned to anything; just someone stepping up and fixing.
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2704. # [20:39] <glob> bz, and/or restrict comments on bugs to just canconfirm+
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2706. # [20:40] <BenWa> smaug: I haven't profiled on systems with slow IO. I'm modifying the addon to have a way to auto send shutdown profiles that I'm going to get people to opt-into
2707. # [20:40] <@bz> Wraithan: half the things that get checked in have code written before the bug is ever filed.
2708. # [20:40] <BenWa> Once we get that well have better data
2709. # [20:40] <@bz> glob: That would help too.
2710. # [20:40] <BenWa> GC/CC is about 2/3 of the problem however
2711. # [20:40] <@smaug> yup
2712. # [20:40] <@bz> Wraithan: The one thing I can guarantee is that no one has time to work on this until b2g ships
2713. # [20:40] <@smaug> BenWa: I'm about to land the patch in few minutes
2714. # [20:40] <glob> bz, fwiw both of those are on my "short term" fix list
2715. # [20:40] <@bz> Wraithan: since the usual culprits for this code are deep in that.
2716. # [20:40] <@smaug> once I get some more tryserver results
2717. # [20:40] <@bz> glob: excellent. ;)
2718. # [20:41] <@bz> dholbert: they don't scale. I've tried. :(
2719. # [20:41] <BenWa> smaug: We haven't got a profile of someone getting a 30sec+ shutdown yet but we hear it's GC/CC related but can't confirm
2720. # [20:41] <bjacob> jlebar: is there any docs on how to use your dump-about-memory-to-file-on-signal tool?
2721. # [20:41] <@bz> dholbert: having to add a filter to all your mail clients every time there's a new idiot-fest.. <sigh>
2722. # [20:41] <BenWa> smaug: Wait, I though we had to fix some of the writes first?
2723. # [20:41] <jlebar> bjacob: ./get_about_memory.py --help.
2724. # [20:41] <mccr8> I've considered creating a separate bugzilla account to file things like intermittent oranges that I don't want to get mailed about all the time. ;)
2725. # [20:41] * @bz wishes he had sane server-side filters
2726. # [20:41] <bjacob> jlebar: thanks!
2727. # [20:41] <BenWa> mccr8: Haha, I filed one and got soo sick of it I just fixed it :)
2728. # [20:42] <dholbert> bz, if you use gmail or moco-mail, you can do server-side filtering
2729. # [20:42] <Wraithan> bz: cool, I guess that is my answer, it isn't a priority and it wont be for months, if it is even one then.
2730. # [20:42] <BenWa> but it was a really simple random orange. We weren't waiting for the iframe to load
2731. # [20:42] <@bz> Wraithan: again, this is something we'd like to change behavior of, but it's a fair amount of work, and the benefit has not been judged sufficient....
2732. # [20:42] <@bz> Wraithan: yep.
2733. # [20:42] <@smaug> BenWa: based on espindola's tryserver push, there are no writes
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2735. # [20:42] <@bz> Wraithan: That's correct.
2736. # [20:42] <dholbert> bz, (ah, nevermind, you mentioned server-side filters)
2737. # [20:42] <@bz> Wraithan: if you think it should be, mail Mounir once b2g is done?
2738. # [20:43] <@bz> Wraithan: which is in a month....
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2740. # [20:43] <BenWa> smaug: W00t. Well if that's the case then this would probably be the biggest patch for 20 :)
2741. # [20:43] <jcranmer> bz: one option I've done when trying to fix a hostile bug is to make a dependency bug which has a very dry technical summary
2742. # [20:43] <@bz> dholbert: yeah, using moco for bugmail is undesirable. :(
2743. # [20:43] <@bz> dholbert: even more so gmail.
2744. # [20:43] <jdm> I find gmail pretty usable for bugmail
2745. # [20:43] <@bz> dholbert: the former because of project-vs-employment concerns
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2747. # [20:44] <dholbert> bz, fair enough
2748. # [20:44] <@bz> dholbert: and the latter because I hate gmail to start with, and the security bug story makes it even worse.
2749. # [20:44] <@bz> dholbert: gmail s/mime might make it better, of course.
2750. # [20:44] <jcranmer> I use gmail, but only via Thunderbird
2751. # [20:44] <dholbert> me too
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2753. # [20:45] * jcranmer finds that all webmail UIs suck
2754. # [20:45] <jhammel> jcranmer++
2755. # [20:45] <dholbert> enigmail+thunderbird security-bugmail-decrypting FTW
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2757. # [20:45] <jcranmer> meh, I use self-signed S/MIME certs
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2761. # [20:45] <Wraithan> bz: thanks.
2762. # [20:45] <sstangl> philor|away: ping
2763. # [20:46] <joe> Waldo: do you want to take a look at bug 821804 and see which approach you prefer?
2764. # [20:46] <sstangl> (does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d8a45a696e8b look sufficiently randomly orange to you?)
2765. # [20:46] <jlebar> bjacob: (You found the tool in the B2G repository, right?)
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2771. # [20:47] <jdm> sstangl: yeah, that's all rando
2772. # [20:47] <sstangl> excellent, thank you
2773. # [20:47] <@bz> Ah, gmail via IMAP is possibly an option, yes.
2774. # [20:48] <bjacob> jlebar: i did. my next question is can i tell it to do it every millisecond?
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2776. # [20:48] <jlebar> bjacob: It takes a few seconds to do its business...
2777. # [20:48] <bjacob> jlebar: i have time
2778. # [20:48] <jlebar> bjacob: So you're limited by how fast it runs.
2779. # [20:49] <jlebar> bjacob: Also by how quickly you can pull files off the device and so on.
2780. # [20:49] <bjacob> jlebar: ok, next question then
2781. # [20:49] <bjacob> jlebar: i actually get a low-memory event before crashing
2782. # [20:49] <jlebar> ha, yeah, good luck.
2783. # [20:49] <bjacob> jlebar: i tried to break on the place where we catch it
2784. # [20:49] <bjacob> jlebar: somehow my breakpoint doesn't get hit. rings a bell?
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2786. # [20:50] <jlebar> bjacob: But the event fires?
2787. # [20:50] <bjacob> i guess i'll just recompile the code where we handle it
2788. # [20:50] <bjacob> it does fire and log it
2789. # [20:50] <jlebar> bjacob: Are you sure it's firing in the process you're running in gdb?
2790. # [20:50] <bjacob> but setting a bp on the line logging it, isnt hit
2791. # [20:50] <bjacob> oooooh
2792. # [20:50] <bjacob> jlebar: smart cookie
2793. # [20:50] <jlebar> :)
2794. # [20:50] <bjacob> jlebar: the best part is i updated the b2g debugging wiki page with exactly that tip
2795. # [20:51] <jlebar> lol, goes to show how useful that page is.
2796. # [20:51] <bjacob> well, it would actually have been useful to me if i hadn't forgotten it
2797. # [20:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38754d5fcc85 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 821434: Tabs button shows persona on private mode. [r=mfinkle]
2798. # [20:53] <bjacob> jlebar: got it hit now. so if i run your tool, and continue execution in gdb, it should work, righ
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2800. # [20:53] <jlebar> bjacob: If the process doesn't crash first...
2801. # [20:54] <bjacob> jlebar: right, i have to interrupt also the browser process
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2805. # [20:55] <jlebar> bjacob: The memory pressure is coming from the browser process, and the main process is dying?
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2807. # [20:56] <bjacob> jlebar: no, the memory pressure is caused by browser process, but only the main process gets the event, and only the browser process dies, and i want about:memory of browser process
2808. # [20:56] <Wraithan> bz: added an update to that bug with some of the information you provided since the community deserves to have an idea of what is happening if they come across it.
2809. # [20:56] <NeilAway> jcranmer: what expiry date did you put?
2810. # [20:57] <jlebar> bjacob: I see. Okay; the browser process is dying too fast. That makes sense.
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2812. # [20:57] <jcranmer> NeilAway: ?
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2814. # [20:57] <jlebar> bjacob: If you ever happen to see us kill the main process before the browser process, could you tell me? I've heard of this happening but have been unable to reproduce.
2815. # [20:57] <bjacob> jlebar: i am not seeing that happening
2816. # [20:57] <jlebar> bjacob: understood.
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2818. # [20:59] <Wraithan> bz: https://bugzil.la/649849#59 let me know if I misstated anything.
2819. # [20:59] <bjacob> jlebar: actually i have a problem. what i need is, as soon as the main process gets memory-pressure, i need to interrupt the browser process. Do you know a way of doing that?
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2822. # [20:59] <@bz> Wraithan: Seems right enough
2823. # [20:59] <jlebar> bjacob: You can send it a signal. :)
2824. # [21:00] <jlebar> bjacob: Actually, you could send it SIGRTMIN!
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2830. # [21:00] <bjacob> jlebar: how do i know the browser process pid?
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2832. # [21:00] <jlebar> bjacob: You should be able to get that from ContentParent if you dig enough.
2833. # [21:00] <jlebar> bjacob: but I don't know offhand.
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2835. # [21:00] <bjacob> jlebar: ok
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2837. # [21:01] <NeilAway> jcranmer: <jcranmer> meh, I use self-signed S/MIME certs
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2840. # [21:02] <jcranmer> NeilAway: ah, I don't remember
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2842. # [21:02] <jcranmer> April 22, 2014
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2844. # [21:04] <dholbert> hmm, my gpg key expires 2013-01-01... better get on making a new one
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2846. # [21:04] <dholbert> I wonder if security bugmail cares whether your gpg key is expired?
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2849. # [21:06] <jcranmer> I don't know
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2851. # [21:06] <jcranmer> I was the first to find out that it supported self-signed certs
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2854. # [21:06] <dholbert> well, now I have to leave my soon-expired key on my bmo account, just to find out :)
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2887. # [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9121bae603a2 - Sean Stangl - Bug 808245, Part 1/6 - Fix some nits, especially vim modelines. r=dvander
2888. # [21:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7e2ba73b2ff - Sean Stangl - Bug 808245, Part 6/6 - Add MatchOnly mode and lazify RegExpStatics. r=dvander
2889. # [21:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7711a36c2771 - Sean Stangl - Bug 808245, Part 5/6 - Use MatchPairs for RegExp output. r=dvander
2890. # [21:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/787527f064da - Sean Stangl - Bug 808245, Part 2/6 - Remove the unused hackedSource RegExp type. r=dvander
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2901. # [21:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a1a8bf1b656 - Jonathan Kew - bug 821454 - scaling from display to device pixels should only apply to top-level windows/dialogs/popups, not to child or plugin windows. r=roc
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2904. # [21:31] <@smaug> no espindola today
2905. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> cabanier, ping
2906. # [21:31] <@smaug> !seen espindola
2907. # [21:31] <@killer> I don't know who espindola is.
2908. # [21:31] <firebot> espindola was last seen 16 hours, 23 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying 'njn: in any case, I hope if you don't mind if I look at it next week (Monday)' in #developers.
2909. # [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc1e8c9266ea - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 821453: Android 4.2.1 messes up BitmapDrawable. [r=mfinkle]
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2919. # [21:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/034a28d4d68b - Olli Pettay - Bug 818739, don't run CC during shutdown, r=mccr8
2920. # [21:38] <@smaug> BenWa: ^
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2929. # [21:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a567cc63a389 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 820180 - Isolate JS pseudorandom number generator state per compartment. r=luke.
2930. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96b591267cb3 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 745194 - [jsdbg2] Crash on Heap, trying to execute NULL, with Debugger forced return, methodjit, and GC. r=bhackett.
2931. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8541aa1783c7 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 817368 - Map.prototype.{keys,values,entries}. r=luke.
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2937. # [21:50] <BenWa> smaug: I just saw that. You guys are insane :)
2938. # [21:50] <BenWa> I really hope it sticks
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2941. # [21:51] <@smaug> BenWa: that has nothing insane :) But yeah, I hope it doesn't cause regressions
2942. # [21:51] <BenWa> smaug: Ideally we just force everyone to fix any regression rather then a backout. We will see
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2945. # [21:52] <@smaug> yeah
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2949. # [21:53] <@ehsan> BenWa: insane and genius are two sides of a coin
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2952. # [21:53] <BenWa> Well we need to take some bold move sometimes. They payoff here is huge!
2953. # [21:53] <BenWa> the payoff*
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2955. # [21:54] <BenWa> smaug: You should write a blog post to ask people to watch for problems
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2957. # [21:54] <@smaug> I don't have a blog
2958. # [21:54] <@smaug> at least not an active one
2959. # [21:54] <BenWa> Well dev.platform. If not I can blog it
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2973. # [22:00] <@bz> Payoff being faster shutdown?
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2979. # [22:03] <BenWa> bz: Yes. We're hoping it will cut down our numbers of 30sec+ shutdown. And speed up our 1 sec shutdown but 2/3
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2984. # [22:04] <@khuey> yeah good luck getting people to fix regressions when they're all busy with b2g
2985. # [22:04] <@smaug> BenWa: I'll write to dev.p once I've got green tests
2986. # [22:04] <BenWa> np
2987. # [22:05] <@smaug> khuey: I'm not busy with b2g ;) (but busy with other things )
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2989. # [22:06] <@smaug> but really, I don't see why this would be very risky change
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2995. # [22:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e7b35e1e28d4 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 821843: Remove no-longer-used variable 'isJava' from nsPluginHost.cpp, to fix GCC 4.7 warning (treated as error in enable-warnings-as-errors builds). r=johns
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3009. # [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86236b3e0b1f - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 820084 - Fix handling of thisv value when top-level script is entered into via enterJIT. r=sstangl
3010. # [22:27] <jfkthame> jorendorff: is it your push that's set inbound on fire?
3011. # [22:27] <jfkthame> windows failing with "mozjs.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 2 unresolved externals"
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3013. # [22:27] <jorendorff> probably, patching forward now
3014. # [22:28] <jorendorff> jfkthame: actually I think I need to back that out and use try server
3015. # [22:28] <jfkthame> sounds good, thanks
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3018. # [22:29] <Waldo> joe: looking, paging the WeakPtr design decisions back into memory first, tho (kinda laborious :-\ )
3019. # [22:30] <jorendorff> ok, there's my attempt
3020. # [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e890c7296610 - Jason Orendorff - Backout a567cc63a389 (bug 820180) due to red on Windows.
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3022. # [22:35] <@bz> Is bc permaorange on inbound?
3023. # [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c668a20b6b59 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 821448. Make a bunch of imagelib classes builtinclass. r=joe
3024. # [22:36] * @bz does not see a single green bc run today
3025. # [22:36] <@bz> At least not since 627a842914d0 landed
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3027. # [22:37] <@bz> Anyone sheriffing right now?
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3030. # [22:38] <sicking> bholley: ping
3031. # [22:38] * bc should stop wearing his orange "doing good is part of our code" t-shirt.
3032. # [22:38] <@bz> bc: lol
3033. # [22:38] <@bz> ok
3034. # [22:38] <@bz> backing mano out...
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3041. # [22:40] <sicking> mrbkap: ping
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3046. # [22:48] <@bz> Hmm
3047. # [22:49] <@bz> does hg backout no longer do a branch-and-merge involving two changesets?
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3056. # [22:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6e550165361 - Boris Zbarsky - Back out bug 675902 (rev 627a842914d0) from CLOSED TREE because it fails browser-chrome tests.
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3058. # [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2d9eaf13c19 - Boris Zbarsky - Back out bug 817006 (rev 0852e5efadac) because it depends on a patch I'm about to back out for test failures.
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3067. # [22:54] <kaie> hg update: abort: path contains illegal component: /pymake/tests/native-touch.mk
3068. # [22:54] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
3069. # [22:54] <kaie> is there a fix, or is it necessary to wipe my tree?
3070. # [22:54] <@gavin> kaie: hg up -C
3071. # [22:54] <kaie> thank you
3072. # [22:54] <@gavin> (assuming you have no local changes you care about)
3073. # [22:55] <kaie> I didn't
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3076. # [22:55] <@bz> OK
3077. # [22:55] <@bz> now we wait for green, I guess?
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3082. # [23:00] <jfkthame> bz: i think so. it's been a sad day in bc-land, what with the earlier linux bc almost-perma-orange, and then this
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3084. # [23:01] <Waldo> joe: was the use case for the default WeakPtr constructor so that you could have member variables, that would be initialized not in the constructor, or something?
3085. # [23:02] <joe> Waldo: yeah, i believe so
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3088. # [23:02] <joe> Waldo: and the problem is that I want to have a WeakPtr that is sometimes null and sometimes not
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3090. # [23:03] <Waldo> modulo type-unsafety and no operator support, this is something nsSupportsWeakReference/nsWeakReference did almost better, if I've paged them into memory far enough
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3097. # [23:06] <@smaug> jdm: is there a bug open for those android failures?
3098. # [23:06] <jdm> smaug: I'm assuming it's an infrastructure failure
3099. # [23:06] <@smaug> sure
3100. # [23:06] <@smaug> but is there a bug open
3101. # [23:06] <jdm> it looks like all of them lost the ability to communicate with the device
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3103. # [23:06] <jdm> and no
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3106. # [23:08] <@smaug> jhopkins|buildduty: ping
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3108. # [23:08] <jhopkins|buildduty> smaug: pong
3109. # [23:09] <@smaug> jhopkins|buildduty: do you happen to know about those Android failures?
3110. # [23:09] <jhopkins|buildduty> smaug: no, i haven't seen or heard of those yet
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3114. # [23:10] <@smaug> jhopkins|buildduty: plenty of red in m-c
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3117. # [23:10] <jhopkins|buildduty> smaug: ok, having a look. thanks
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3119. # [23:11] <jhopkins|buildduty> armenzg: ^
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3121. # [23:11] <armenzg> let me look
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3123. # [23:12] <armenzg> smaug: those were enabled today. I will hide them
3124. # [23:13] <armenzg> smaug: those were the Android 4.0 jobs on panda boards
3125. # [23:13] <armenzg> smaug: jhopkins|buildduty it should now be good
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3127. # [23:13] <@smaug> k
3128. # [23:13] <jhopkins|buildduty> thanks armenzg. do we need to file a bug to track?
3129. # [23:14] <armenzg> jhopkins|buildduty: no; it is on kmoir's hands
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3131. # [23:14] <jhopkins|buildduty> ok
3132. # [23:14] <armenzg> jhopkins|buildduty: I guess with the json issues this morning some of them got hidden and some of them did not
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3134. # [23:15] <Waldo> joe: okay, done; something about WeakPtr has always smelled a little bit to me, but without a larger redesign jrmuizel's patch is preferable
3135. # [23:15] <joe> nooooooooooooooooo
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3137. # [23:16] <joe> :)
3138. # [23:16] <Waldo> haha
3139. # [23:16] <joe> jeff hates his patch
3140. # [23:16] <joe> i don't actually care
3141. # [23:16] <Waldo> I think maybe, maybe, this could be cleaner if weakptr-supporting things had to be refcounted
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3143. # [23:17] <Waldo> I'm not sure
3144. # [23:17] <joe> i think that would be good
3145. # [23:17] <joe> in which case we could have a heap-allocated refcounted "null object"
3146. # [23:17] <jlebar> mounir: ping?
3147. # [23:17] <Waldo> yeah, I was kind of meh about it, not sure I understood the implications exactly
3148. # [23:17] <jlebar> mounir: Is it too late over there?
3149. # [23:18] <Waldo> supportsptr, ptr, referent, refptr, my head hurts :-)
3150. # [23:18] <tbsaunde> Waldo: on the other hand would be kind of nice to be able to have weak ptrs to non refcounted things in some cases
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3153. # [23:18] <Waldo> tbsaunde: this isn't XPCOM refcounting but a bit lighter-weight
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3155. # [23:18] <joe> RefCounted<T>
3156. # [23:18] <Waldo> yup
3157. # [23:18] <tbsaunde> Waldo: sure
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3159. # [23:19] <Waldo> tbsaunde: but yes, that's what WeakPtr does right now; it feels nice often enough but has these edges to it :-\
3160. # [23:19] <@smaug> what is heavy weight in "XPCOM" refcounting
3161. # [23:19] <tbsaunde> Waldo: my use case may be special enough its not worth making it general
3162. # [23:19] <@smaug> especially in case of inline addref/release implementations
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3164. # [23:19] <tbsaunde> Waldo: but note nsWeakFrame already supports this
3165. # [23:20] <Callek> smaug: ----- so FYI, most of those Android 4.0 jobs should have been hidden -- not sure how we missed a good chunk of them
3166. # [23:20] <tanvi> do we have an onRefresh or something like that? I need to add an event listener for when a page navigates but the location does not change (like a refresh or when the user hits enter in the url bar)
3167. # [23:20] <tanvi> smaug ^^ ?
3168. # [23:20] <Callek> smaug: I did however unhide the 5 Android 4.0 jobs that should be ready, there is/was a few hiccups but should be good from now on for those hobs
3169. # [23:20] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I'm not really clear on the issue here, but I can see it making things more complicated
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3171. # [23:20] <Waldo> nsWeakFrame is another approach to the matter -- use a linked list to track stuff
3172. # [23:20] <tanvi> looking at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIWebProgressListener, i dont see any that fit
3173. # [23:21] <Waldo> it has a bigger memory cost, and I seem to recall you have linear-time operations in some cases
3174. # [23:21] <Waldo> this is all still only about 3/4 paged into my memory :-\
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3176. # [23:21] <@smaug> tanvi: event listener of progress listener ?
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3178. # [23:21] <tbsaunde> Waldo: sure, I was only saying it allows you to hold weak pointers to non refcounted thing
3179. # [23:21] <tanvi> yeah
3180. # [23:21] <tanvi> smaug^^
3181. # [23:22] <@smaug> s/of/or/
3182. # [23:22] <@smaug> tanvi: ^
3183. # [23:22] <tanvi> web progress listener i guess?
3184. # [23:22] <tanvi> similar to onlocationchange
3185. # [23:22] <Waldo> tbsaunde: by dint of knowing the frame allocation/ownership model, is the key; requiring classes to inherit from SupportsWeakPtr or nsSupportsWeakReference is the way you get similar knowledge in the more-general situation
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3187. # [23:23] <@smaug> tanvi: hmm, maybe http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/base/nsIWebProgressListener2.idl#65 ?
3188. # [23:24] <tbsaunde> Waldo: ok, note non of this is paged in for me, I'm just talking about problems it is useful to solve
3189. # [23:24] <@smaug> someone was fixing this stuff...
3190. # [23:24] <@smaug> fixing or changing
3191. # [23:24] <Waldo> :-)
3192. # [23:24] <tbsaunde> and saying that weak refs to non refcounted things is a useful problem to solve
3193. # [23:25] <@smaug> tbsaunde: weakframes rely on presshell to clear the pointers
3194. # [23:25] <tanvi> smaug - hmm, this includes redirects
3195. # [23:25] <@smaug> no need to make nsIFrames objects bigger or anything
3196. # [23:25] <tanvi> but i guess i can make the current uri the refresh uri
3197. # [23:25] <tbsaunde> smaug: yeah
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3199. # [23:25] <@smaug> tanvi: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/base/nsIWebProgressListener.idl#293
3200. # [23:25] <@smaug> perhaps that one
3201. # [23:26] <@smaug> or maybe not
3202. # [23:26] <@smaug> that is for push/popstate
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3205. # [23:26] <tbsaunde> so, an xpt question lets suppose I have an addon that has some idl its idl refers to an interface we define, if we change the iid of that interface does the xpt need to be updated?
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3207. # [23:27] <@smaug> tanvi: anyhow, can't remember now. Would have to read some code
3208. # [23:27] <tanvi> smaug - maybe that will work.
3209. # [23:28] <tanvi> smaug - its to prevent a potentially rare bug where a user chagnes an about:config setting and then refreshes a page where mixed content was blocked. in this case, I would need to dismiss the popupnotification
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3213. # [23:28] <@smaug> uh, do we really care about such case
3214. # [23:28] <tanvi> i'm not sure
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3216. # [23:29] <tbsaunde> ted: ping?
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3218. # [23:29] <tanvi> i've commented about it in my code, and we can leave it up for discussion as part of the review
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3220. # [23:29] <@smaug> I mean, about:config isn't for end users
3221. # [23:29] <tanvi> yeah
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3223. # [23:29] <tanvi> smaug: i came upon it while testing
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3226. # [23:29] <tanvi> smaug: but most users won't be doing that. they'll just follow the prompts to disable blockign on that page
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3231. # [23:30] <tanvi> smaug: i'll skip it for now
3232. # [23:31] <@smaug> k
3233. # [23:31] <tanvi> thanks smaug!
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3241. # [23:38] <Mook_as> tbsaunde: yes, that xpt will break.
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3244. # [23:41] <tbsaunde> Mook_as: ok, thanks
3245. # [23:41] <Mook_as> (by which I mean "that has bit us before", of course :p )
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3251. # [23:43] <tbsaunde> Mook_as: yeah, I just spent a couple hours debugging it in bug 820807 :/
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3254. # [23:43] <tbsaunde> ehsan: ^
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3258. # [23:45] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: the xpt will be rebuilt, so I'm not sure why it should break
3259. # [23:45] <@ehsan> unless we're using an old version somehow
3260. # [23:45] <tbsaunde> ehsan: no, the seleenium thing ships an xpt
3261. # [23:46] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: for which interface?
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3264. # [23:46] <tbsaunde> ehsan: some one they cooked up, but it has methods that take a nsISupportsArray
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3268. # [23:46] <@ehsan> oh hmm
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3270. # [23:47] <Mook_as> which means they might want to switch to using a nsIArray anyway?
3271. # [23:47] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: if they're not shipping an xpt *for* nsISupportsArray, I don't see what could be the problem
3272. # [23:47] <@ehsan> that is
3273. # [23:47] <@ehsan> unless we put the uuid of nsISupportsArray in there
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3275. # [23:48] <@ehsan> but if this is an xpt problem they should be able to figure out how to fix it
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3280. # [23:50] <tbsaunde> ehsan: so, as I'm understanding it if a method takes a interface as an argument then the xpt that has that method contains the iid of the interface
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3291. # [23:54] <jcranmer> I thought it would store the name of the interface
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3293. # [23:55] <jcranmer> since it doesn't necessarily know nsISupportsArray's uuid
3294. # [23:55] <@ehsan> yeah I would expect a name too
3295. # [23:55] <jcranmer> if you linked with the xpt containing nsISupportsArray, that could change
3296. # [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ec1c7f91699 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 96b591267cb3 (bug 745194) for test failures on a CLOSED TREE
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