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15. # [00:06] <nrc> Is Bugzilla having a planned outage, or is it just AWOL?
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17. # [00:07] <nthomas> unexpected, IT are looking
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19. # [00:07] <josh> nrc: I don't think this is planned
20. # [00:07] <nrc> nthomas, josh: thanks!
21. # [00:08] <avih> hmm.. bugzilla seems down ATM...
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24. # [00:08] <avih> aye :)
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39. # [00:19] <Optimizer> bugzilla down. World is going to end early !
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41. # [00:20] <mjrosenb> Optimizer: nah, it is like in dbz, you shoot out the core of the planet (bugzilla), then a while later, shit hits the fan
42. # [00:21] <mjrosenb> Optimizer: they keep saying "30 minutes", but in reality, it is like a week.
43. # [00:21] <Callek> Optimizer: http://status.mozilla.com/
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45. # [00:21] <Optimizer> it is giving me service temp unavailable
46. # [00:21] <Callek> Optimizer: also http://fredericiana.com/media/wp/2011/01/no-bugzilla.png
47. # [00:22] <Optimizer> shall I post a screenshot ? :P
48. # [00:22] <Optimizer> oh, you guys are with me only :D
49. # [00:23] <Optimizer> mjrosenb: may this is the start of that, and it will hit on 21st :P
50. # [00:23] <Optimizer> man, I wanted to submit a patch before sleeping
51. # [00:23] <Optimizer> :(
52. # [00:24] <Optimizer> I should probably send all the 4 reviewers the patch by mail :P
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57. # [00:28] <Callek> Optimizer: it SHOULD be back up soon
58. # [00:28] <Callek> though admitedly i don't know the actual reason its down
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65. # [00:41] <markh> yay bugzilla!
66. # [00:41] <Callek> bak!
67. # [00:41] <Callek> Optimizer: fyi
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91. # [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5fddab2f19e - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 819817 - DMD: cache calls to NS_DescribeCodeAddress for faster dumping. r=jlebar.
92. # [01:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e082861f545f - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 821577 - DMD: Fix hang at start-up on Mac. r=jlebar.
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115. # [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9d3089866cf - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 818060 - Add a memory reporter for graphics textures. r=BenWa,njn
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130. # [01:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0f9ff3c9894 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 820681 - OS.Constants.Path.{profileDir, localProfileDir} - Initialize strings to void. r=khuey
131. # [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9736bd231bdc - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 820681 - Restore OS.Constants.Path.{profileDir, localProfileDir} to its previous state. r=Yoric
132. # [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d268001c137 - Soumya Deb - Bug 821971 - Un-prefix gradients from per-theme downloads.css. r=dao
133. # [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4742aa20d0e3 - Soumya Deb - Bug 821968 - Un-prefix gradients on New Tab Page. r=dao
134. # [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcef2011bf4f - Sankha Narayan Guria - Bug 809305 - [OS.File] Share the common functions in the test suite. r=Yoric
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136. # [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eed5cbd0b622 - Tobias Schneider - Bug 803124 - Rename mozIsPointInStroke to IsPointInStroke. r=jmuizelaar
137. # [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/afe8da61183f - Rob Wood - Bug 811583 - Develop WebAPI tests for proximity sensor API, update manifest. r=davehunt
138. # [01:44] <mjrosenb> anyone know if it is possible to make enums look like objects (e.g. *this is an enum)
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144. # [01:53] <Jesse> philikon: "gui_user" in #firefox is looking for a way to make "open link in new tab" not load the page immediately. do you know of an extension that does that?
145. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9637f34d0df0 - Usurelu Catalin - Bug 820197 - Fix build warnings in accessible. r=surkov
146. # [01:54] <joe> jdm: so I should switch back to regular nightlies now?
147. # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38889f86a465 - Seth Fowler - Bug 821023 - imgStatusTracker should not know about imgRequest. r=joe
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149. # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6066a23ba701 - Seth Fowler - Bug 815471 - Don't assume that all imgIContainers are either a RasterImage or a VectorImage. r=joe
150. # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb7ffa195fa5 - Seth Fowler - Bug 816374 - Don't export RasterImage from imagelib. r=joe
151. # [01:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0f96f272360 - Seth Fowler - Bug 816362 - Refactor imgTools::DecodeImageData to remove imgIContainer argument and use ImageFactory. r=joe
152. # [01:55] <jdm> joe: you should already be on them; we attempted to move all birch users to nightly
153. # [01:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22f0a7ee5348 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 820373 - Add a null check to TextEncoder.encode(). r=bz
154. # [01:55] <joe> jdm: --enable-update-channel=nightly
155. # [01:55] <joe> i suspect you are correct
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161. # [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4554dabda4cc - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 818281 - Remove DOMClassInfo remnants from XMLHttpRequest. r=bz
162. # [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9431f3821542 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 819635. r=bhackett
163. # [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d79b8ab15752 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 805374 - Remove UTF-16 family from Character Encoding menu. r=smontagu
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165. # [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11bf35befda6 - Benedict Singer - Bug 795360 - Make dump_syms from symbolstore.py run in parallel on multi-core machines. r=ted
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168. # [02:06] <Waldo> mjrosenb: how could you write such a function? (i.e. "no")
169. # [02:06] <Waldo> mjrosenb: a troll would say "use Java!"
170. # [02:07] <mjrosenb> Waldo: enum foobar {}; foobar::printme() { printf("%d", *this); }
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173. # [02:10] <Waldo> in theory maybe, but no :-)
174. # [02:10] <Waldo> there would be Issues there wrt ODR, at least
175. # [02:10] <Waldo> well
176. # [02:10] <Waldo> linking issues, if you had the "member" defined twice that way
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186. # [02:19] <NeilAway> Callek: heh, that should be on mozillamemes
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188. # [02:20] <Callek> NeilAway: was created a before mozillameme's and I don't know if attribution from xkcd applies well
189. # [02:22] <mjrosenb> Waldo: ODR?
190. # [02:22] <mjrosenb> Callek: randall munroe would probably get a kick out of it.
191. # [02:22] <Waldo> mjrosenb: one definition rule; I don't think it actually was relevant, on second thought
192. # [02:22] <Callek> I'd bet he's already seen many variations on it ;-)
193. # [02:22] <Callek> there was a webkit-developers one to
194. # [02:23] <mjrosenb> Waldo: what is that exactly, and how do functions declared in headers get around it?
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198. # [02:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ac4491232e5 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 696640 - Don't put an existing next-in-flow for the kid into 'rowGroups' - it's either already there or it's not our child. r=roc
199. # [02:25] <Waldo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Definition_Rule and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4192170/what-exactly-is-one-definition-rule-in-c
200. # [02:25] <Waldo> mjrosenb: ^
201. # [02:25] <Waldo> hmm, and I guess ODR encapsulates linking behavior too
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203. # [02:29] <mjrosenb> Waldo: does an enum even set up a namespace?
204. # [02:29] <mjrosenb> now that I think about it, it shouldn't
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210. # [02:32] <Waldo> mjrosenb: enum classes do, a little bit, but nothing else
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212. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> Waldo: is that part of cxx11 ?
213. # [02:33] <Waldo> mjrosenb: yes
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215. # [02:33] <Waldo> mjrosenb: we have some code in mozilla/Attributes.h to use them or fake them when building
216. # [02:34] <Waldo> which I need to move to mozilla/TypedEnum.h or so
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220. # [02:35] <mjrosenb> i'm guessing "faking" them involves some god-awful preprocessor magic, and possibly token pasting?
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224. # [02:39] <Waldo> MOZ_BEGIN_ENUM(name, type) init1 = 1, init2 = 2 MOZ_END_ENUM(name) or somesuch
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229. # [02:46] <tn> jdm, you around?
230. # [02:47] <jdm> tn: yep
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234. # [02:48] <tn> jdm, so if there isn't anything obvious about your profile that i can emulate to try to reproduce can i ask you to do some more debugging? maybe now?
235. # [02:48] <jdm> tn: sure, I can do that
236. # [02:48] <jdm> tn: also I have a nontrivial number of addons installed
237. # [02:48] <jdm> presumably it's something in there, since safe mode fixes it
238. # [02:49] <tn> jdm, whats the list of addons? if i can reproduce this will be much easier
239. # [02:50] <jdm> tn: although I wonder if safe-mode also disables acceleration or something
240. # [02:50] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000905, but not all of these are actually enabled regularly
241. # [02:51] <tn> jdm, yeah acceleration could definitely be involved
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244. # [02:52] <tn> jdm, do you know which are enabled? installing all those could take a bit of time :)
245. # [02:52] <jdm> tn: I see 0/1 Basic in about:support right now, quartz backend, and https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-e27fcee9-7790-48d5-92b3-83bb42121217 is one crash report
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248. # [02:54] <jdm> tn: ones that are definitely enabled: adblock plus, compatibility helper, always ask, builder helper, autoauth, bugzilla tweaks, canadian dictionary, dom inspector, enter selects, gecko profiler, mailvelope, mass password reset, meta q override, moco authorizer, open in browser, nightly tester tools, pdf viewer, user agent switcher
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252. # [02:57] <jdm> tn: anyways, I'm starting up a gdb session right now if you want to dig around
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254. # [02:58] <tn> jdm, so my guess is that the nsCocoaWindow or nsChildView is dying at some point, so if you can check to see if the destructors or Destroy functions are called on them
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259. # [03:04] <jdm> tn: so, the destructors for nsChildView::Destroy and nsChildView::~nsChildView were hit twice
260. # [03:04] <jdm> not immediately preceding the crash, though
261. # [03:05] <tn> jdm, so like we went back to the event loop and then crashed after hitting them?
262. # [03:05] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000938 and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000939
263. # [03:06] <jdm> tn: there's a significant amount of debug spew between the last breakpoint and the crash
264. # [03:06] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000940
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269. # [03:08] <tn> jdm, ok, so i guess it's not that then
270. # [03:09] <tn> jdm, can you print the contents of the cocoawindow and childview that are crashing?
271. # [03:10] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000941
272. # [03:10] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000942
273. # [03:11] <Waldo> anyone want to claim knowing anything about bindings codegen? where would I make to test a change to Codegen.py?
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281. # [03:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47bd1f6fd8ed - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 4 changesets (bug 815471, bug 821023, bug 816374, bug 816362) for reftest failures.
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285. # [03:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17d7f3bbe60e - Jeff Hammel - Bug 821820 - bump mozfile version to 0.2 and release to m-c;r=wlach ; DONTBUILD because NPOTB
286. # [03:23] <tn> jdm, when GetLayerManager is called in nsBaseWidget::AutoLayerManagerSetup::~AutoLayerManagerSetup what is the value of mTemporarilyUseBasicLayerManager just before it crashes? (or when it crashes i think would work)
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288. # [03:24] <jdm> tn: I don't know if I can get that value; gdb goes wonky trying to inspect the base widget object
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290. # [03:24] <jdm> and tells me No symbol "mTemporarilyUseBasicLayerManager" in current context.
291. # [03:24] <tn> are you using . or ->?
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293. # [03:25] <jdm> tn: I've tried bare and this->
294. # [03:25] <jdm> er, sorry, not the base widget object, but printing out AutoLayerManagerSetup
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296. # [03:26] <jdm> no wait, that works
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299. # [03:26] <jdm> where is this mTemporarilyUserBasicLayerManager?
300. # [03:26] <tn> jdm, wait you gave me a dump of that already, and i see that it is false
301. # [03:27] <tn> jdm, that is wrong, so we need to work backwards to see why that happens
302. # [03:28] <jdm> tn: which object is that a member of?
303. # [03:28] <jdm> ah, basicwidget
304. # [03:28] <jdm> er, cocoawindow
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307. # [03:31] <tn> jdm, so there are just two places where mTemporarilyUseBasicLayerManager can change it seems
308. # [03:32] <tn> jdm, so just break on those and take note of the mWidget pointer because we could have more than one in play (and that might be the bug)
309. # [03:33] <jdm> restarting the session now
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311. # [03:37] <jdm> tn: found it
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313. # [03:38] <tn> jdm, backtrace?
314. # [03:38] <jdm> tn: I'm putting together the pastebin, one moment
315. # [03:38] <tn> ok
316. # [03:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd33e059b4d6 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 802628 - Part 1, Kill nsSVGUtils::InvalidateAndScheduleReflowSVG. r=mattwoodrow.
317. # [03:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b910863e5aa8 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 802628 - Part 2, Fix broken invalidation in ReflowSVG implementations. r=mattwoodrow.
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319. # [03:40] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000990
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323. # [03:40] <jdm> I can pastebin the full stack if necessary; the bit there is coming from what is presumably a sync xhr
324. # [03:42] <tn> jdm, so it looks like we are nesting AutoUseBasicLayerManager instances. yes, could i see the whole stack? just so i get it all straight in my head
325. # [03:42] <jdm> agreed
326. # [03:43] <jdm> sounds like an autorestore might be in order
327. # [03:43] <jdm> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2000991
328. # [03:43] <tn> jdm, well, nested painting doesn't seem like it should be happening i don't think
329. # [03:44] <jdm> oh, I see
330. # [03:44] <jdm> we perform a paint
331. # [03:44] <jdm> and then stop blocking scripts
332. # [03:44] <jdm> and that ends up triggering a sync xhr
333. # [03:44] <jdm> which causes a paint to run
334. # [03:44] <jdm> what a disaster
335. # [03:46] <tn> jdm, yeah
336. # [03:47] <tn> jdm, can you post that giant stack to the bug?
337. # [03:47] <jdm> yep
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340. # [03:48] <jdm> tn: link to the bug? it's in the profile that's crashing :P
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342. # [03:48] <jdm> actually I can start using firefox again, I guess, since we probably don't need my gdb session any longer
343. # [03:48] <tn> jdm, heh, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=813024
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345. # [03:49] <tn> jdm, no, i think we have all the info we need
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350. # [03:54] <tn> jdm, thanks!
351. # [03:54] <jdm> you're welcome
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367. # [04:26] <tn> jdm, if you test that the patch i just posted fixes it for you i can reland the patch that was making it worse that i backed out earlier today
368. # [04:27] <jdm> me does so
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375. # [04:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b1328bd377c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 11bf35befda6 (bug 795360) for Windows hangs.
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380. # [04:33] <jdm> tn: it works
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382. # [04:33] <tn> jdm, awesome, thanks
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388. # [04:40] <Hughman> oh wow... it seems that everything opened through a JS popup window (not the style that goes to new tab) zombie leaks everything in the popup to the about:blank memory reporter
389. # [04:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aba8a2ef6225 - John Schoenick - Bug 822040 - Cleanup the channel when plugins reject their initial stream. r=josh
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391. # [04:42] <Mavericks> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/--GENERATED--/xpcom/components/_xpidlgen/nsICategoryManager.h.html#l67 missing something ?
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394. # [04:44] <jdm> Mavericks: anything in particular?
395. # [04:47] <Mavericks> jdm: i'm guessing i'm wrong on this. return value looks odd
396. # [04:48] <jdm> Mavericks: I don't see a problem. It evaluates to something like mFoo->GetCategoryEntry when used properly
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398. # [04:49] <Mavericks> I see. i didn't know it evaluates to that. interesting
399. # [04:50] <Mavericks> looked @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/--GENERATED--/xpcom/components/_xpidlgen/nsICategoryManager.h.html#l76 and then one above. so looked odd
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401. # [04:52] <jdm> Mavericks: yeah, that's a fair thing to notice.
402. # [04:53] <Mavericks> oh also just noticed that lines from 67 -72 follow the same pattern for return value
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406. # [04:58] <Mavericks> jdm: does it make sense to say when the compiler says something like return a b; it quickly checks for a to be a reference(object) and the following function. and as a result a->b?
407. # [04:58] <Mavericks> s/says /sees
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409. # [04:59] <jdm> Mavericks: I'm not sure quite what you're saying. That macro only works if people invoke it with a parameter that includes the ->
410. # [04:59] <jdm> NS_FORAWRD_NSICATEGORYMANAGER(mFoo->)
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412. # [05:01] <Mavericks> dear oh dear
413. # [05:01] <Mavericks> total disaster.
414. # [05:01] <Mavericks> i got this wrong totally. just the thought to stat with
415. # [05:01] <Mavericks> thanks jdm now i understand :)
416. # [05:01] <jdm> heh
417. # [05:01] <jdm> you're welcome
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441. # [05:28] <Mavericks> is value getting initialized at http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/dom/plugins/base/nsPluginHost.cpp.html?string=nsPluginhost.cpp#l2445 ?
442. # [05:29] <Mavericks> in the line before it's an unknown value.
443. # [05:31] <Mavericks> trying to figure out if the value on strcmp on following line - l.2446 - has some value prior
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447. # [05:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d6e95e77855 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 819915 - Fix IsSingleFixedPositionImage to actually check if we only have a single image. r=roc
448. # [05:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d66bb18b4a3 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 820061 - Clamp layer scale factors to inverse powers of 2 as well. r=roc
449. # [05:36] <Waldo> !seen RyanVM
450. # [05:36] <firebot> ryanvm was last seen 24 hours, 59 minutes and 26 seconds ago, saying 'and that doesn't include all the automatically-restarted blue ones' in #developers.
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457. # [05:39] <firebot> You're right here, duh!
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459. # [05:40] <mjrosenb> just checking...
460. # [05:40] <mjrosenb> also
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462. # [05:40] <firebot> I'm right here, duh!
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464. # [05:45] <edwin> ha
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469. # [05:49] <@roc> installing the Visual Studio 2012 Update 1 takes hours :-(
470. # [05:50] <mjrosenb> roc: installing it, or just downloading it?
471. # [05:51] <@roc> it seems to do both in parallel
472. # [05:52] <mjrosenb> fun.
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508. # [06:32] <Mavericks> is there a tool that detects the path for a file in a diff and just clicking it automatically opens it ?
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510. # [06:33] <@roc> okay, after spending most of the day installing Visual Studio 2012, it has exactly the same "hang loading symbols for rasapi32.dll" bug that VS 2010 has, so this was a waste of time :-(
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513. # [06:38] <firebot> edmorley was last seen 8 hours, 23 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying 'jviereck: gfx hardware acceleration is disabled, methodjit is disabled, addons disabled' in #developers.
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553. # [07:22] <mjrosenb> well that last line edmorley said is certainly horrifing
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567. # [07:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a268b5d3166d - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. Move the forced repaint from the Paint notification to the WillPaint notification. r=mattwoodrow
568. # [07:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82d45d6f8964 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 813024. Restore mTemporarilyUseBasicLayerManager to the previous value instead of setting it to false when using an AutoUseBasicLayerManager object. r=roc
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616. # [08:26] <glazou> bonjour
617. # [08:26] <heycam> hello
618. # [08:27] <heycam> what is the point of this line https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/tip/xpcom/glue/nsISupportsImpl.h#l506 in the default Release() implementation?
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620. # [08:33] <jdm> heycam: it may be to avoid problems with things addrefing/releasing when called from the destructor
621. # [08:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/209e726cf605 - Mike Hommey - Bug 822097 - Fix resource path for Console.jsm in devtools tests. r=jimm
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623. # [08:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89f1723f42f7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 822097 - Fix EventEmitter.jsm import url in ProfilerPanel.jsm. r=jimm
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625. # [08:34] <heycam> jdm, mm, what problems?
626. # [08:34] * heycam was just going to copy over the guts of that to nsStyleStruct::AddRef/Release, since once of them has bogus assertions in it currently
627. # [08:34] <jdm> heycam: consider something has refcount 0, calls a function that ends up stashing the pointer in an nsCOMPtr temporarily
628. # [08:35] <jdm> when the nsCOMPtr goes out of scope, the refcount drops to 0 again and the memory is deleted a second time
629. # [08:35] <heycam> ok
630. # [08:35] <heycam> but should the object be used after having its refcount drop to 0 in the first place?
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632. # [08:36] <jdm> no
633. # [08:36] <heycam> ok :)
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639. # [08:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38b71336dff4 - Asaf Romano - Relanding Bug 675902 - New Downloads view for Places Library. r=mak. Test fix contributed by Mike Conley (r=me). The new view is still disabled.
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674. # [09:22] <tbsaunde> ugh, that moment when you just qfinished 10 patches and relize you need to pull :(
675. # [09:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/408694ed2d3e - Gene Lian - Bug 817474 - B2G MMS: handleNotificationIndication()->sendMmsRequest() cannot get the expected HTTP response (part 1). r=vicamo
676. # [09:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba26dc1c6267 - Gene Lian - Bug 817474 - B2G MMS: handleNotificationIndication()->sendMmsRequest() cannot get the expected HTTP response (part 2). r=vicamo
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681. # [09:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6272bd19f451 - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - remove dom classinfo stuff r=bz
682. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/290224a8e5fa - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - use webidl for RGBColor r=bz
683. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ea3572c80b3 - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - add RGBColor webidl r=bz
684. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed93f3e4a53f - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - don't use nsIDOMRGBColor xpcom methods in nsROCSSPrimitiveValue r=bz
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686. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c8138b6848a - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - add webidl api to RGBColor and store its members as nsROCSSPrimitiveValue* not nsIDOMCSSPrimitiveValue* r=bz
687. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/477a1c6b95f9 - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - cycle collect and wrapper cache nsDOMCSSRGBColor r=bz
688. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7645d0b506dc - Trevor Saunders - bug 821593 - GetRGBColorValue() should return nsDOMCSSRGBColor* r=bz
689. # [09:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/163f1b12bdef - Trevor Saunders - bug 820182 - remove nsISupportsArray::ElementAt() uses r=ehsan
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693. # [09:32] <@roc> go Trevor!
694. # [09:33] <tbsaunde> roc: thanks :)
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757. # [10:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2b54e759cb9 - Gina Yeh - Bug 821636 - Patch 1: No subscriber number information in Bluetooth Handsfree, r=echou
758. # [10:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d42d3987f8a4 - Walter Chen - Bug 816514 - [B2G] Using marionette in Keyboard frame, causing lose of focus, r=jgriffin
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766. # [10:53] <Cwiiis> Trying to update my checkout of m-c, I get "abort: path contains illegal component: /pymake/tests/native-touch.mk" - any ideas?
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768. # [10:55] <edmorley> version of mercurial?
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770. # [10:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff251b3e073f - Gina Yeh - Bug 820103 - Patch 1: bluetooth Hfp memory dialing and Hfp supplied number not supported, r=echou
771. # [10:56] <Cwiiis> edmorley, 2.2.3
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779. # [11:00] <mcsmurf> mak: re Bug 820308 ;) it works in Firefox, that's the strange(?) thing
780. # [11:01] <mcsmurf> mak: how does sqlite/places actually know when it can shut down the database?
781. # [11:01] <mcsmurf> as it looks like in this case it shuts down too early
782. # [11:02] <mak> mcsmurf: it doesn't, we just handle the various notification (profile-change-teardown, profile-before-change) and fires its own notifications (like places-shutdown)
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784. # [11:02] <mak> mcsmurf: but I looked at the suiteGlue file and it seems to handle the same notifications as browserGlue, so I'm unsure what's wrong there...
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787. # [11:03] <mcsmurf> maybe I can find a workaround by listening to another event that's fired a bit earlier
788. # [11:03] <mcsmurf> need to see
789. # [11:03] <Cwiiis> edmorley, do I just need to update?
790. # [11:03] <mcsmurf> or just remove the pref ;)
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792. # [11:04] <mak> mcsmurf: an interdiff of the 2 glues may help, maybe
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794. # [11:04] <edmorley> Cwiiis: I'm not sure (I'm not that familiar with hg bugs and when fixed unfortunately)
795. # [11:04] <edmorley> Cwiiis: it wfm on m-c with 2.4+
796. # [11:04] <Cwiiis> hg sucks :(
797. # [11:04] <mcsmurf> mak: k, I'll check
798. # [11:04] <edmorley> Cwiiis: and they have performance improvements anyway
799. # [11:05] <mak> mcsmurf: and also an interdiff of the 2 browser/components/places folders, in case something was lost in the porting...
800. # [11:05] <Ms2ger> Cwiiis, see https://etherpad.mozilla.org/commonissues
801. # [11:06] <edmorley> Cwiiis: ah fixed on newer versions http://bz.selenic.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3511
802. # [11:06] <edmorley> Ms2ger: oh, tx
803. # [11:06] <edmorley> ta
804. # [11:06] <Ms2ger> Np :)
805. # [11:06] <Ms2ger> And good morning
806. # [11:06] <edmorley> good morning to you too :-)
807. # [11:07] <Cwiiis> edmorley, ah, there's an rpm for 2.3.1 in updates-testing (Fedora 17), that fixed it - thanks :)
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810. # [11:10] <edmorley> Cwiiis: ah good :-)
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814. # [11:12] <padenot> GeekShadow: je pense pas qu'on pourra backporter le patch sur le chaining.
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819. # [11:15] <glazou> nice frenglish, padenot :-)
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823. # [11:21] <Ms2ger> That French was so terrible I didn't even understand it :)
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835. # [11:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07baed38f016 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 816082 - Part 2/4: refactor fragmentText, pass fragemented text to ril_worker instead. r=hsinyi
836. # [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/609a53b92cee - Vicamo Yang - Bug 816082 - Part 1/4: more entries in GSM_SMS_STRICT_7BIT_CHARMAP, r=hsinyi
837. # [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a616878a5b1 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 816082 - Part 3/4: replace non-7bit-alphabet chars with '*' when strict7BitEncoding is enabled. r=hsinyi
838. # [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0d7097db421 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 816082 - Part 4/4: correct xpcshell test cases. r=hsinyi
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846. # [12:04] <mcsmurf> doh!
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848. # [12:04] <mcsmurf> mak: I found the bug, stupid typo :O I typed "processNextEvents" instead of "processNextEvent"
849. # [12:04] <NeilAway> Cwiiis: is your problem listed on https://etherpad.mozilla.org/commonissues ?
850. # [12:04] <mcsmurf> JS engine did not complain about this looks like
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852. # [12:05] <NeilAway> Cwiiis: sorry for the echo
853. # [12:05] <Cwiiis> NeilAway, np :)
854. # [12:05] <mak> mcsmurf: did the interdiff help?
855. # [12:05] <mak> mcsmurf: btw, nice!
856. # [12:06] <mcsmurf> yeah, I saw the bug then in the interdiff ;)
857. # [12:06] <mcsmurf> I wonder why the JS engine did not tell me about this though?
858. # [12:06] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: you'll only see it at runtime
859. # [12:06] <mcsmurf> as there is no processNextEvents function
860. # [12:06] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: if you're shutting down then the error console will be closed
861. # [12:06] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: maybe you could use NSPR logging to catch it?
862. # [12:06] <mak> mcsmurf: while here, I have to notify you changes to the Library are incoming, on inbound currently. bug 675902.
863. # [12:06] <mcsmurf> hm, I had a debug build with console output
864. # [12:07] <mcsmurf> mak: k, I'll take a look
865. # [12:07] <mak> mcsmurf: this may be a moving target for some days, but test changes will be needed likely soon.
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868. # [12:14] <NeilAway> mak: why do you need two then clauses when importing?
869. # [12:15] <mak> NeilAway: cause the code in the second then should be executed regardless success/failure of the first one
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876. # [12:22] <glazou> !seen gerv
877. # [12:22] <firebot> gerv was last seen 3 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes ago, saying 'Sounds like a plan.' in #b2g.
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883. # [12:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9159cb7be55f - Julian Seward - Bug 821395 - Uninitialised value use in gfxUtils::GetYCbCrToRGBDestFormatAndSize r=nical
884. # [12:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b62655d36be4 - Jacek Caban - Bug 819280 - Change NS_ASSERTION to MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT r=trev.saunders
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894. # [12:33] <NeilAway> mak: sorry, I don't follow you
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896. # [12:33] <mcsmurf> NeilAway: even if the bookmarks.html fails
897. # [12:34] <mcsmurf> the smart bookmarks need to be created
898. # [12:34] <mcsmurf> +import
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900. # [12:36] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: that's not what you're doing though
901. # [12:36] <NeilAway> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/components/nsBrowserGlue.js#1175
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905. # [12:37] <mcsmurf> you mean my patch is different?
906. # [12:37] <mcsmurf> or you mean that FF has the same issue?
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908. # [12:38] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: yes, that's why I asked mak :-P
909. # [12:38] <NeilAway> (the :-P was more for mak)
910. # [12:39] <mcsmurf> to me it looks ok, does .then work differently from what I thought
911. # [12:39] <mcsmurf> first it executes the first then(...) statement and after that the 2nd one
912. # [12:39] <mcsmurf> though, hm..
913. # [12:39] <firebot> Check-in:
914. # [12:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f30fd422239 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 794426. Don't call StopAudioThread from the main thread when we start capturing audio to a MediaStream. Instead, let the state machine thread call
915. # [12:40] <mcsmurf> the 2nd then looks not ok?
916. # [12:40] <firebot> StopAudioThread. r=cpearce
917. # [12:40] <mcsmurf> I actually checked on some documentation about the then thing, but did not find anything
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920. # [12:41] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: no, you can have as many then()s as you like, they just push the functions onto the success/fail queue
921. # [12:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbe1b292cc2c - Alexander Surkov - Bug 822173 - bunch of editable tests is never invoked, r=marcoz
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923. # [12:44] <mcsmurf> NeilAway: do you happen to know if there is actually some docu on this?
924. # [12:45] <mcsmurf> on "then"
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937. # [12:58] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: dunno, I think Yoric wrote it, but I'm not sure
938. # [13:02] <@smaug> this scrolling slowness is superannoying
939. # [13:04] <Mavericks> smaug: is it the same slowness you mentioned yesterday - the layout/painting regression?
940. # [13:04] <@smaug> yes
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942. # [13:04] <Mavericks> oh, you mentioned a bug too. off to check that
943. # [13:04] <@smaug> I can't get useful profiles of this
944. # [13:05] <@smaug> except that most of the time is about painting
945. # [13:05] <@smaug> but are we painting too much
946. # [13:05] <Mavericks> iirc it's on linux. isn't it ?
947. # [13:05] <@smaug> yup
948. # [13:05] <Mavericks> 12.15
949. # [13:05] <Mavericks> ok
950. # [13:05] <sankha93> tbsaunde: I uploaded the new patch
951. # [13:06] <@smaug> oh, hmm
952. # [13:06] <@smaug> is this a addon problem after all
953. # [13:06] <Mavericks> good point. disabling all and testing the same
954. # [13:06] <Mavericks> sankha93: sort method ? lgtm
955. # [13:06] <sankha93> Mavericks: yes
956. # [13:07] <@smaug> no, it is not addon problem ...
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969. # [13:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c56a4fcc3acc - Antonio M. Amaya - Bug 812289 - PermissionSettings doesn't enforce any restriction on permissions operations (edit); r=sicking
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975. # [13:21] <@smaug> for some reason BoxBlur_SSE2 is page faulting a lot
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993. # [13:39] <@smaug> argh, the regression is in beta
994. # [13:39] <@smaug> but I can't reproduce it with new profile
995. # [13:39] <@smaug> odd odd
996. # [13:41] <NeilAway> anyone know much about how gecko schdules animated gifs?
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1008. # [13:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10cb0e3aac02 - Ed Morley - Backout e28f0f4b25a4 (bug 819510) for causing bug 822093
1009. # [13:47] <Mavericks> what's the purpose of MOZ_ASSERT ?
1010. # [13:48] <Mavericks> give a invalid or void value if i look @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/mfbt/Assertions.h.html#l279
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1016. # [13:52] <mcsmurf> Mavericks: also see Bug 763000 ?
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1021. # [13:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ad6ca44ce5b - Jim Mathies - Bug 814953 - Check for possible widget tear down before calling UpdateWindow in widget's Show. r=bbondy
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1023. # [13:59] <Mavericks> mcsmurf: taking a look now
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1025. # [14:01] <mcsmurf> Mavericks: hm, actually, the bug is not that related to your question..
1026. # [14:02] <lahabana> hsivonen: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815622 I was thinking about working on. and Archaeopteryx directed me to you
1027. # [14:02] <lahabana> hsivonen: what I was wondering is if we had to care with backwards compability?
1028. # [14:02] <lahabana> and make an alias?
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1031. # [14:03] <lahabana> or should it just wait to be done when the prefix will be removed?
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1051. # [14:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/753bdb271fdf - Ed Morley - Backout c56a4fcc3acc (bug 812289) for failures in test_permission_basics.html
1052. # [14:22] <hsivonen> lahabana: it’s unclear to me what level of backward compat is needed in that case
1053. # [14:23] <hsivonen> lahabana: we’ve done some things by simply unprefixing and others by leaving the prefixed version around as an alias
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1055. # [14:24] <hsivonen> lahabana: it might be that in this case we could get away with simply unprefixing, because the main user of the API is YouTube and we have communication channels to Google
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1059. # [14:24] <hsivonen> lahabana: so I suppose the answer is, try without an alias and see what breaks
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1062. # [14:24] <Ms2ger> Bug 743198, fwiw
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1069. # [14:30] <lahabana> thx Ms2ger hsivonen : So if it's about to be unprefixed I don't really see the point of modifying the prefixed version no?
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1079. # [14:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb35b59ae6b8 - Ed Morley - Remove spurious newline to fix bustage (no bug)
1080. # [14:41] <glandium> edmorley: hey, are you planning a merge soon(ish)? The past pgo (38b71336dff4) would be enough for me
1081. # [14:42] <edmorley> glandium: yeah, will do one now
1082. # [14:43] <glandium> edmorley: awesome, thanks
1083. # [14:43] <edmorley> yw
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1085. # [14:45] <mcsmurf> does trychooser know about mochitest-bc ?
1086. # [14:45] <edmorley> yes
1087. # [14:45] <mcsmurf> as https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:TryChooser does not list it
1088. # [14:45] <mcsmurf> ok
1089. # [14:46] <edmorley> mcsmurf: that wiki is out of date, I'll remove that and just link to the site
1090. # [14:46] <mcsmurf> heh ok
1091. # [14:46] <edmorley> http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ is always the most up to date
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1102. # [14:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/048673b6b48b - Mike Conley - Bug 817006 - "Remove from List" option in the Downloads Panel should be clarified as "Remove from History". r=mak.
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1180. # [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ed12964d424 - James Willcox - Bug 821777 - Get some kind of version information into nsPluginTag for Flash on Android r=josh
1181. # [16:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f773ab3d5146 - James Willcox - Bug 809055 - Restore fullscreen plugins after document becomes active r=blassey
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1183. # [16:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a28cfd7299e5 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 821470 - Avoid calling TokenStream::strictMode() from the BytecodeEmitter. r=benjamin
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1200. # [16:33] <avih> jrmuizel: thx for the quick review :) i'll address those.
1201. # [16:35] <avih> jrmuizel: i'll change that, but the reason i used processing instead of paint is that it's flush+paint.
1202. # [16:36] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah, I struggled with that problem too
1203. # [16:36] <jrmuizel> avih: I ended up deciding that it's ok to include layout in the paint as it's sort of part of the process
1204. # [16:37] <avih> jrmuizel: thx for answering my next question ;)
1205. # [16:37] <jrmuizel> avih: I couldn't think of a better name and I think paint is more descriptive than processing
1206. # [16:37] <avih> jrmuizel: it is indeed
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1208. # [16:38] <avih> jrmuizel: btw, can there be a state where rAF will trigger every 8.33 ms? (with layout.frame_rate == -1)
1209. # [16:39] <@smaug> vlad: ^
1210. # [16:39] <jrmuizel> avih: no idea
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1212. # [16:39] <avih> jrmuizel: oh, apologies, that was meant for vlad..
1213. # [16:40] <avih> vlad: can there be a state where rAF will trigger every 8.33 ms? (with layout.frame_rate == -1)
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1255. # [17:17] <avih> jrmuizel: do we wanna change terminology to paintTimes and paintIntervals?
1256. # [17:17] <jrmuizel> avih: I have no objection to that, though I sort of like frameIntervals better
1257. # [17:17] <avih> or maybe paintDurations
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1259. # [17:17] <avih> jrmuizel: cool, paintTimes and frameIntervals it is then.
1260. # [17:18] <jesup> for FF-win32 on Win7x64: what's the OOM limit? 3GB? On WinXP-32, it's around 2.3GB IIRC
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1267. # [17:25] <avih> jrmuizel: is the naming here reasonable? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2001994
1268. # [17:25] <derf> jesup: For 32-bit XP it's 3 GB. For x64 it's 4 GB.
1269. # [17:25] <avih> jrmuizel: especially the tmpXxx
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1271. # [17:26] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah that's fine
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1273. # [17:26] <avih> jrmuizel: k, thx.
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1277. # [17:27] <derf> jesup: At least since bug 556382 landed.
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1288. # [17:33] <jesup> derf: interesting. My XPx32 machine always used to run out of memory around 2.3-2.4GB (4GB ram installed; 3GB available - thanks MS). But that was a while ago; with not reloading tabs (and all the memshrink work) I don't hit it often anymore (plus I restart more often for updates)
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1293. # [17:35] <jesup> derf: in any case, that helps answer the question I was helping someone with
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1314. # [17:47] <blassey> who closed aurora?
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1316. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> Did you have a=?
1317. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> Oh, neat
1318. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> treestatus is down
1319. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> edmorley, ^
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1323. # [17:49] <blassey> Ms2ger: what do you mean treestatus is down?
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1325. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> No more
1326. # [17:50] <edmorley> Ms2ger: wfm
1327. # [17:50] <blassey> jchen told me that the closed tree push hook failed for him
1328. # [17:50] <blassey> is that related?
1329. # [17:50] <edmorley> Ms2ger: although http://status.mozilla.com/11627/273774/treestatus.mozilla.org
1330. # [17:50] <edmorley> blassey: no, see the message for why
1331. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Leaks
1332. # [17:50] <edmorley> blassey: the closed tree hook prints the message to the console
1333. # [17:51] <edmorley> blassey: TBPL lists the message at the top of the page, and https://treestatus.mozilla.org/ also states the message as well as change history (including who)
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1335. # [17:52] <blassey> edmorley: that isn't particularly descriptive
1336. # [17:52] <blassey> is there a bug on file?
1337. # [17:53] <edmorley> blassey: see TBPL, browser-chrome and mochitest-other are orange on every platform, something needs backing out, have no idea what, since Ryan landed a million changesets at once, even though I've advised him not to
1338. # [17:54] <edmorley> I just don't have the cycles to look at it today, so have closed to stop people landing on it
1339. # [17:54] <blassey> edmorley: can you please file a bug then? there should be a bug for any tree closure
1340. # [17:54] <edmorley> that's not always the case
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1342. # [17:54] <edmorley> but I can file one if you want
1343. # [17:55] <blassey> thank you
1344. # [17:55] <Callek> edmorley: I just pinged IT about treestatus down
1345. # [17:55] <edmorley> Callek: ta
1346. # [17:55] <Callek> edmorley: it is indeed iterating between ISE 500/working (as far as I can tell)
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1348. # [17:55] <edmorley> Callek: we should also switch it to defaulting to closed
1349. # [17:56] <Callek> edmorley: the default open was explicity chosen [at the time] due to wanting to still push if, for some reason, it can't read the data [in time]
1350. # [17:56] <Callek> I don't personally object to changing default, but wanted to point it out
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1353. # [17:57] <edmorley> Callek: it was chosen until it was reliable, see bug 758888
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1356. # [17:58] <Callek> edmorley: hehe c#0 is you'rs I'm talking about the reasons for failing open for the initial closed tree hook :-P
1357. # [17:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/483fe8d512a0 - Oleg Romashin - Bug 822307 - Typo bug introduced into Qt nsWindow.cpp after landing 819725. r=jfkthame
1358. # [17:58] <edmorley> Callek: yes I know
1359. # [17:58] <Callek> doesn't mean that they are still valid today or that we still come to same end-assertions
1360. # [17:59] <edmorley> I'm just had to back someone out for landing on a closed tree due to the 500s
1361. # [17:59] <edmorley> I would rather false positives the other way
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1364. # [17:59] <edmorley> (if we have to have any that is)
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1367. # [18:02] <jchen> yeah that was me. thanks for the backout! i should have remembered to check the status but i agree it'd help to default to fail
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1381. # [18:06] <edmorley> jchen: not your fault at all; just bad luck :-)
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1386. # [18:09] <Callek> edmorley: do you/we have a treestatus-ISE bug on file for tracking?
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1388. # [18:09] <edmorley> ISE?
1389. # [18:09] <mounir> jlebar: pong
1390. # [18:09] <Callek> "Internal Service Error"
1391. # [18:09] <mounir> jlebar: I was on vacation
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1393. # [18:09] <edmorley> Callek: not yet
1394. # [18:09] <edmorley> Callek: is IT filing, or shall I?
1395. # [18:09] <Callek> edmorley: in a position to file one, or shall I?
1396. # [18:10] <Callek> I was thinking one-of-us, and then a hand to IT as "this is the bug"
1397. # [18:10] <edmorley> I'm happy to
1398. # [18:10] <edmorley> what component I wonder
1399. # [18:10] <Callek> I'd just use generic Server Ops
1400. # [18:10] <Callek> ;-)
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1402. # [18:10] <vlad> avih: hmm, I don't think so, but maybe with chrome/content?
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1407. # [18:11] <avih> vlad: i _think_ it happens when using rAF after using a 0ms oneshots loop. i'll post the test case. sec.
1408. # [18:12] <avih> (as in, switching loop method from one shots to rAF)
1409. # [18:12] <Callek> edmorley: just got asked: "please file in Web Operations as a Maj/Crit"
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1412. # [18:12] <edmorley> Callek: thank you, filed bug 822315
1413. # [18:12] <jlebar> mounir: I have no idea what I was asking about, but welcome back. :)
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1423. # [18:16] <avih> vlad: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2002028 when switching 0ms one shots to rAF, i get short intervals (4, 5, 8), but when switching from timer to rAF, it seems fine. if there's a bug in the switching code, i didn't find it...
1424. # [18:17] <vlad> avih: I shall test soon! I've got some meetings for the next hour and a half but I'll look right after
1425. # [18:17] <vlad> avih: can you file an actual bug with that testcase though?
1426. # [18:17] <vlad> just so I can track it
1427. # [18:17] <avih> vlad: would be be ok if i file the bug after you approve the test case?
1428. # [18:17] <vlad> no, you should file it before :)
1429. # [18:17] <avih> heh
1430. # [18:17] <vlad> if you're seeing the issue with that testcase then there's an issue
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1432. # [18:18] <avih> vlad: possibly, i'll recheck and simplify the test case before that then. will get to it after i finish some stuff
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1467. # [18:40] <sankha931> jlebar: so I will do a free search in MXR and modify any sort method where the comparator use is not so much required?
1468. # [18:40] <jlebar> sankha931: Sure, yes.
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1470. # [18:41] <sankha931> jlebar: will take a look and submit a patch! :)
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1475. # [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7c7f7e0de99 - Richard Newman - Bug 822067 - Build fails due to raw types in BrowserProvider.java. r=lucasr
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1486. # [18:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/76c63f26ba46 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 802628 - Part 1, Kill nsSVGUtils::InvalidateAndScheduleReflowSVG. r=mattwoodrow, a=bajaj.
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1507. # [19:02] <avih> jrmuizel: i'm about to post the new patch, should i also r?ehsan since he first reviewd the tabbroser.xml part?
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1518. # [19:04] <WeirdAl> :) Are we still landing patches with checkin requested on them?
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1521. # [19:05] <Ms2ger> RyanVM does
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1528. # [19:11] <WeirdAl> is he on vacation?
1529. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f887c6fc51d7 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 802628 - Part 2, Fix broken invalidation in ReflowSVG implementations. r=mattwoodrow, a=bajaj.
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1531. # [19:12] <jrmuizel> avih: if it has changed significantly
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1535. # [19:13] <avih> jrmuizel: i addressed the issues he pointed...
1536. # [19:13] <jrmuizel> avih: maybe then
1537. # [19:13] <avih> (already added him)
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1539. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, nah, edmorley was complaining about him just now
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1541. # [19:14] <WeirdAl> I'm not complaining... yet :)
1542. # [19:14] <edmorley> Ms2ger: tactful paraphrase :P
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1544. # [19:14] <WeirdAl> the trains aren't scheduled to depart for a couple weeks
1545. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> edmorley|mtg, yw :)
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1547. # [19:15] <WeirdAl> but with the end of the year coming up, I am a tad nervous about not getting on board
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1555. # [19:21] <avih> jrmuizel: i forgot to change the pref name to browser.tabs.animationLogging at the patch description and commit message. should i upload a new patch with this changed?
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1560. # [19:22] <jrmuizel> avih: sure?
1561. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> gps, I thought so :)
1562. # [19:23] <avih> jrmuizel: is that a rhetorical question?
1563. # [19:23] <jrmuizel> avih: I don't feel strongly. If you have a new patch you might as well upload it
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1565. # [19:24] <avih> jrmuizel: i can make one in 10 seconds...
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1584. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> jrmuizel: any thoughts on bug 819028 would be appreciated, especially if you have contacts into Microsoft D3D team
1585. # [19:41] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: hmm ok
1586. # [19:42] <@bsmedberg> jrmuizel: in particular I'm worried that patch Tuesday in January could see that final release and then we'd be pretty screwed
1587. # [19:42] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: do we know how bad it is? can we reproduce it?
1588. # [19:42] <@bsmedberg> it is showing up more and more with each beta
1589. # [19:43] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: I don't really have anyone I know on the MS D3D team
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1591. # [19:43] <@bsmedberg> for people who are trying the IE10 preview
1592. # [19:43] <tanvi> smaug - when you have a chance, can you look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782654#c130. I am stuck here
1593. # [19:43] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: does it only happen on windows 7
1594. # [19:43] <jrmuizel> ?
1595. # [19:43] <@smaug> tanvi: dealing something else now
1596. # [19:44] <@bsmedberg> jrmuizel: yes
1597. # [19:44] <tanvi> smaug: sure, np
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1599. # [19:45] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: do you know if anyone can reproduce it?
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1601. # [19:46] <@khuey> tanvi: did you try setting a breakpoint in the setter on nsDocShell?
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1604. # [19:48] <tanvi> khuey - no, i didn't try that. that's a good idea.
1605. # [19:48] <tanvi> thanks!
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1620. # [19:56] <avih> jrmuizel: on the d3d bug 819028, fwiw, i know that latest fraps fails to display the aero desktop fps for people who installed ie10 beta. it's been known for a while and still no new fraps version to address this.
1621. # [19:57] <jrmuizel> avih: weird
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1623. # [19:58] <avih> jrmuizel: could also be part of this update (fraps author recommends to uninstall this and ie10 beta to get the functionality back): http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2670838?wa=wsignin1.0
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1634. # [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbad4186f735 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 821140 - Replace 'UniversalXPConnect' with 'chrome' in nsIDOMWindowUtils.idl comments. r=mccr8 DONTBUILD
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1650. # [20:06] <yzen> Yoric: ping
1651. # [20:06] <@bsmedberg> jgriffin: ping
1652. # [20:06] <jgriffin> bsmedberg: pong
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1656. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> jgriffin: help! in bug 821353, how can we turn off elfhack for the B2G builds?
1657. # [20:07] * @bsmedberg doesn't quite understand the gonk-misc bit of things
1658. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> glandium: do we just need to add --disable-elfhack as a configure option?
1659. # [20:07] <jgriffin> bsmedberg: if it's a mozconfig change, it would go https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gonk-misc/blob/master/default-gecko-config
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1662. # [20:08] <glandium> jrmuizel: and builders wouldn't pick it
1663. # [20:08] <@bsmedberg> jgriffin: will that work for the nightly builds that testers actually use?
1664. # [20:09] <glandium> why we're not using in-tree mozconfigs for b2g is beyond me
1665. # [20:09] <glandium> at least on builders
1666. # [20:09] <jgriffin> bsmedberg: it will work for all of the "full" builds, like unagi and panda
1667. # [20:09] <jgriffin> it won't change emulator builds used by TBPL
1668. # [20:09] <jgriffin> bsmedberg: the latter uses mozconfigs from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/config/mozconfigs/
1669. # [20:09] <glandium> jgriffin: builders don't update gonk-misc automatically
1670. # [20:09] <jgriffin> no we'll have to ask rel-eng to update the snapshots for them
1671. # [20:10] <@bsmedberg> glandium: do I need to build buildduty about it?
1672. # [20:10] <@bsmedberg> crap, this is complicated
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1677. # [20:11] <glandium> bsmedberg: welcome in the b2g world
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1680. # [20:12] <glandium> i see no valid reason why the b2g mozconfig has to be outside the mozilla tree
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1682. # [20:13] <glandium> and we now have a use case of it getting in the way of doing work
1683. # [20:13] <Yoric> yzen: pong
1684. # [20:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6817de3ec64a - Fabrice Desré - Bug 821925 - Update the appcache of non-removable hosted apps. [r=ferjm]
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1686. # [20:16] <yzen> Yoric: hi, re: #812859, what, in your opinion, should I be using to do the logging. it seems there are quite a lot of services available
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1689. # [20:16] <yzen> Yoric: such as console service or components.utils.reportError etc
1690. # [20:17] <Yoric> yzen: I would go for the console service.
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1694. # [20:18] <yzen> Yoric: right so, in this case i can write some tests and listen for the log messages, but if warning method accepts stack argument, should i log it using custom consolemessage?
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1697. # [20:18] <fabrice> !seen bsmith
1698. # [20:18] <firebot> bsmith was last seen 3 days, 16 hours, 32 minutes and a couple of seconds ago, saying ':)' in #developers.
1699. # [20:19] <yzen> yzen: or just use logStringMessage ?
1700. # [20:19] <yzen> sorry Yoric ^
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1705. # [20:20] <yzen> Yoric: perhaps I could go over the given stack and log each stack element one by one?
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1723. # [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a09a149d8a44 - Asaf Romano - Bug 675902 - Follow up patch: Don't reload the download views multiple times when it's loaded. r=mak
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1738. # [20:30] <joe> Waldo: so did you get a screenshot of the wat-horse?
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1740. # [20:31] <Waldo> joe: I could go back and get one, certainly; I did see johnath's twittersphere photo
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1742. # [20:31] <joe> oh right it's recorded
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1744. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/249e7db380b0 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 822378 - Update the overflow rects of the child frames when an nsSVGOuterSVGFrame's children-only transform changes. r=longsonr.
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1748. # [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6457767f5277 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 811587 - Limit scheduledForDestruction assert to brain transplants (r=luke)
1749. # [20:33] <ericz> edmorley: philor|away: Ryan: rhelmer: As per bug 809610, can I take graphs1.dmz.scl3 down for < 10 minutes to increase the memory by 50%?
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1753. # [20:34] <edmorley> ericz: sure :-)
1754. # [20:34] <ericz> edmorley: thanks. Will shut it down now then.
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1757. # [20:36] <edmorley> ericz: thank you for the heads up
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1762. # [20:37] <ericz> edmorley: Welcome. It's back up now.
1763. # [20:37] <edmorley> ericz: that was quick - thank you :-)
1764. # [20:38] <ericz> NP. These VMs are nice in this respect!
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1766. # [20:38] <Yoric> yzen: Sorry, I was afk.
1767. # [20:38] <Yoric> I would just go for logStringMessage, at least for a first version.
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1769. # [20:39] <yzen> Yoric: thanks!
1770. # [20:39] <Yoric> Thank you :)
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1773. # [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88dbe3740665 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 821833 - Don't open extra socket when marionette.force-local is true, r=mdas
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1778. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> edmorley, prioritizing? :)
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1781. # [20:48] <edmorley> Ms2ger: a few, rest I'll do tomorrow (was having to change some bugs for the switch to using keyword "buildapi" for all things self-serve and buildapi)
1782. # [20:48] <edmorley> :-)
1783. # [20:48] <sfink> wow, I scored a sheriffing-P1 for one of my random 1.5 year old bugs! Thanks, edmorley! I think that's worth at least 175 points on my (somewhat cynical) scorecard.
1784. # [20:48] <edmorley> lol
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1787. # [20:49] <vlad> so if I have a crash report that's throttled
1788. # [20:49] <vlad> the throttling message says "if you'd like to see your report, go to about:crashes and it will be automatically sbumitted"
1789. # [20:49] <vlad> but it doesn't seem to be, I just get the throttling page whenever I click
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1792. # [20:50] <mcsmurf> quest about those prefs in /build/automation.py.in:
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1795. # [20:50] <mcsmurf> user_pref("geo.wifi.uri", "http://%(server)s/tests/dom/tests/mochitest/geolocation/network_geolocation.sjs");
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1797. # [20:50] <edmorley> sfink: unfortunately a subset of the "would be helpful to sheriffs" bugs are dependent on those more comfortable with convincing buildbot to cooperate then myself, but at least with the new sheriffing-* keywords we have a way of grouping the various bugs across TBPL, releng, a-team components together
1798. # [20:50] <mcsmurf> what does %(server)s get replaces with? 127.0.0.1:8888? or mochi.test:8888?
1799. # [20:50] <mcsmurf> d
1800. # [20:50] <vlad> oh *now* it works
1801. # [20:51] <edmorley> sfink: and hopefully imparting an idea of what would help us most, to those that can fix them
1802. # [20:51] <vlad> oh I see... right-click open in new tab etc. does not work, but clicking directly does
1803. # [20:51] <Callek> edmorley: fyi we might have a DC-Tree-Closing issue, we're trying to guage scope/timeline of it now
1804. # [20:51] <edmorley> ok, thank you
1805. # [20:52] <Callek> edmorley: specifically AC issues in mtv1 which affect a batch of tegras+foopies, as well as talos webhosts, for the reason its tree-closing
1806. # [20:52] <Callek> (so short-term fine, long-term bad)
1807. # [20:53] <edmorley> so the tree might actually be burning for realz :-)
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1816. # [21:00] <sfink> edmorley: yeah, the markers are valuable for dilettantes like me who like to occasionally do sheriff-related patches
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1833. # [21:07] <@smaug> tanvi: "Learn More pages for Mixed Content Blocker" ?
1834. # [21:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e70b718903a - Rob Wood - Bug 811580 - Develop WebAPI tests for WebMobileConnection data, update manifest; r=jgriffin
1835. # [21:07] <@smaug> Learn?
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1856. # [21:16] <firebot> Check-in:
1857. # [21:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc98fdc051f5 - Jeff Walden - Bug 792108 - Implement JSCLASS_EMULATES_UNDEFINED to allow objects of a given class to act like the value |undefined| in certain contexts. Also add a TI flag for such
1858. # [21:16] <firebot> objects, permitting us to assume that no objects use the flag until one is observed, also speeding up object-is-truthy tests when no falsy object is observed. r=jandem, r=bz
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1862. # [21:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c21138d9e9a - Dan Mosedale - Bug 821855, SRTP fails to initialize on Android when crypto_kernel_init_ciphers fail their self tests, r=jesup
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1868. # [21:20] <Waldo> five pushes in a dozen minutes, fun fun fun
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1873. # [21:21] <jgilbert> Waldo: it's like juggling torches in the forest
1874. # [21:21] <Waldo> jgilbert: a forest of dead pine trees
1875. # [21:22] <Waldo> in the middle of a non-dairy coffee creamer snowstorm
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1878. # [21:23] <jgilbert> near an unmaintained gas line
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1880. # [21:23] <sfink> powdered mashed potatoes work really well for that
1881. # [21:23] <sfink> I haven't tried the creamer. Good idea.
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1884. # [21:23] <Waldo> sfink: you speak like a knowledgeable boy scout...except you don't know about non-dairy coffee creamer, so you couldn't be
1885. # [21:23] <sfink> self-taught
1886. # [21:24] <Waldo> itym lone scout
1887. # [21:24] <sfink> and self-immolated, on numerous occasions
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1889. # [21:24] <jgilbert> airborn flour works great too
1890. # [21:25] <jgilbert> "Trained professional on a closed tree. Do not attempt."
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1894. # [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a71c5b130c6 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 821116 - Track line numbers for XBL properties (r=bz)
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1910. # [21:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c40426150f3 - Steve Fink - Bug 822409 - Need definition of JSFlatString. r=jimb
1911. # [21:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d71ba26519f - Steve Fink - Bug 817818 - Miscellaneous rooting fixes. r=terrence
1912. # [21:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3559bd8606f - Steve Fink - Bug 821389 - Rooting for testLooselyEqual.cpp. r=terrence
1913. # [21:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20646e439eb7 - Steve Fink - Bug 821123 - do not assume the first rooter has been scanned. r=terrence
1914. # [21:41] <@bsmedberg> blassey: do we measure power usage for FxAndroid at all?
1915. # [21:42] <blassey> we had an intern set up some instrumentation last january
1916. # [21:42] <blassey> but haven't gotten to putting that in CI yet
1917. # [21:42] <blassey> why do you ask?
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1921. # [21:42] <@bsmedberg> blassey: I've been thinking about the OEM distribution stuff, and power is one of the things they care about most
1922. # [21:43] <blassey> yup
1923. # [21:43] <mjrosenb> it would be pretty interesting to see a directed graph of person X reviewed a patch for person Y
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1925. # [21:43] <jgilbert> mjrosenb: indeed it would
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1927. # [21:44] <mjrosenb> jgilbert: I bet you'd be able to pick out a bunch of teams right off the bat.
1928. # [21:44] <blassey> jmaher: do you know where that power testing set up got documented?
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1931. # [21:45] <blassey> found it
1932. # [21:45] <blassey> bsmedberg: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/PowerUsage
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1936. # [21:46] <jmaher> blassey: you are as fast as I am
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1942. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/167cface3edc - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 822133: Null check gone wrong in Personas. [r=bnicholson]
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1945. # [21:51] <cpeterson> mjrosenb, does the Bugzilla archeology project have data on reviewers?
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1947. # [21:51] <mjrosenb> cpeterson: i was thinking of grepping the commit logs.
1948. # [21:52] <mjrosenb> possibly cross-referencing with bugzilla to get rid of aliases
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1951. # [21:52] <cpeterson> mjrosenb, oh yeah. that would be a lot easier. <:) btw github has some fun graphs of mozilla-central contributors: https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/graphs/contributors
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1955. # [21:58] <mjrosenb> interesting, i don't seem to be on there/
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1959. # [22:02] <seth> is inbound a different environment from try in any way?
1960. # [22:02] <seth> trying to figure out why my try pushes are all 100% green but there were problems when the patches got checked in
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1964. # [22:03] <KWierso|Home> try is guaranteed clobber, right?
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1968. # [22:04] <seth> that doesn't happen on inbound?
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1970. # [22:04] <KWierso|Home> dunno, but doubt it
1971. # [22:05] <seth> hmm.. how can i get around that, if that's the problem?
1972. # [22:05] <jdm> KWierso|Home: yes
1973. # [22:05] <jdm> seth: touch the clobber file
1974. # [22:05] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/CLOBBER
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1976. # [22:05] <jdm> and by touch I mean update
1977. # [22:06] <seth> aha! ok, i'll update the patch with that and hopefully everything will be good
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1979. # [22:06] <Waldo> oh gag
1980. # [22:06] <seth> thanks folks!
1981. # [22:06] * Waldo looks at orange, is sadmaking
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1983. # [22:06] <KWierso|Home> red and green are more festive, true
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1988. # [22:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5aaf21d0a2b - Malini Das - Bug 722596 - Get stack trace from errors in content frames, r=jgriffin
1989. # [22:08] <Waldo> I was always more a tangelo person, myself
1990. # [22:08] <Waldo> not least because if you have a 'c', you can make octangle out of it
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1993. # [22:08] <guggero> hi there!
1994. # [22:09] <guggero> does anyone of you know a little bit (or a lot) about the support for the SPDY protocol suggested by google and its implementation in Firefox?
1995. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> That would be...
1996. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> mcmanus?
1997. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Yeah
1998. # [22:11] <Ms2ger> !seen mcmanus
1999. # [22:11] <firebot> mcmanus was last seen 7 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying 'benwa - bkero just fixed inbound for me..' in #developers.
2000. # [22:11] <Ms2ger> Heh
2001. # [22:11] <guggero> hmm.. thanks!
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2003. # [22:11] <guggero> any idea how I could get into contact with him? since he does not seem to be around :-)
2004. # [22:12] <jdm> guggero: hang in #necko
2005. # [22:12] <jdm> he has certainly been around more recently than that
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2007. # [22:12] <jdm> in fact he's there now
2008. # [22:13] <guggero> yeah, just saw it. thanks a lot!
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2021. # [22:21] <Waldo> fwiw, I'm building now to see if I can figure out that assertion; it should be fairly simple
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2028. # [22:26] <Waldo> okay, likely issue figured out
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2031. # [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e75c8b88e65e - Scott Johnson - Bug 821801: Make nsContentUtils::ViewportInfo into a separate class in order to allow better state tracking. [r=kats]
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2035. # [22:30] <seth> khuey: ping
2036. # [22:30] <edmorley> seth: do you have a link to your Try run?
2037. # [22:31] <edmorley> seth: I'd like to avoid touching the CLOBBER file unless we're actually sure it needs a clobber, since it will force all devs to rebuild
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2039. # [22:31] <edmorley> seth: did you rebase to tip before pushing etc?
2040. # [22:31] <edmorley> to Try that is
2041. # [22:31] <seth> edmorley: sure, it's here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2ffc98201cdd
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2044. # [22:31] <seth> edmorley: i did. then the actual checking happened 5 days later =)
2045. # [22:32] <seth> edmorley: actual check in. darn autocorrect
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2048. # [22:34] <edmorley> seth: if you see the message that Ryan left after backing out, he doesn't actually state that it was definitely your bug, just one of the ones in that push (so he had to back them all out)
2049. # [22:34] <tanvi> smaug: you know how you often get messages with links to "Learn more…" at the bottom. We need to create two "learn more" pages pages for Mixed Content - http://cl.ly/image/1E2c300w1f3M
2050. # [22:34] <edmorley> seth: clobbering is also unlikely to fix a reftest failure
2051. # [22:34] <@khuey> seth: pong
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2053. # [22:34] <edmorley> seth: perhaps just mark checkin-needed again, and it should all be good next time :-)
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2055. # [22:35] <seth> edmorley: fair enough, i won't do the clobber =) i'm doing another try run and then i'll mark it checkin-needed again. thanks!
2056. # [22:35] <seth> khuey: can you stop by? wanted to ask you about bug 685516
2057. # [22:35] <edmorley> seth: thank you, that sounds great :-)
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2059. # [22:35] <@smaug> tanvi: ah
2060. # [22:36] <@khuey> seth: in a bit
2061. # [22:36] <seth> khuey: cool
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2068. # [22:39] <Pike> is there a way to clear indexedDB data for a website on nightly?
2069. # [22:39] <Pike> notably, file://
2070. # [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34d54961cd14 - Ed Morley - Backout bc98fdc051f5 (bug 792108) for assertions on a CLOSED TREE
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2089. # [22:47] <bent> Pike, page info dialog
2090. # [22:47] <bent> Pike, but i haven't tested that since someone allowed file://
2091. # [22:47] <bent> Pike, hopefully it works!
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2096. # [22:50] <Pike> bent: drats, doesn't seem to trigger for file://
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2099. # [22:51] <guggero> Does anyone of you know how the master password protection for saved passwords work? My question specifically is: After I have entered the master password, FF does not ask me again for some time, even if I open another tab to log in to another page. Would a malicious plugin or a malware on my computer have access to the unencrypted sqlite database then?
2100. # [22:52] <Pike> but there's data in the profile directory, I might get away with just deleting that
2101. # [22:52] <dholbert> guggero, the master password unlocks your passwords for the rest of your firefox session (until you quit)
2102. # [22:53] <dholbert> guggero, so "yes", malware running on your system would have access to those passwords at that point. However, if you've got malware running, you're hosed anyway
2103. # [22:53] <dholbert> e.g. if you've got malware, it could just keylog your master password and do what it likes with that
2104. # [22:53] <guggero> yes, of corse, that would be bad in any case. but is the decrypted DB only in the RAM or does it decrypt it in the file as well?
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2110. # [22:54] <guggero> sure, keyloggers would ruin my day :-)
2111. # [22:54] <dholbert> guggero, I'm not 100% sure, but I'd bet it's just in RAM. it'd be very stupid of us to decrypt the passwords DB and write the cleartext of your passwords to disk
2112. # [22:55] <guggero> I assumed that as well.. just thought about huge files, but that wouldn't be the case with a password DB
2113. # [22:55] <dholbert> right
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2116. # [22:55] <dholbert> password DB is small, and even if it were huge, each password can be encrypted separately
2117. # [22:56] <dholbert> so it doesn't really matter
2118. # [22:56] <guggero> yes
2119. # [22:56] <dholbert> when you use one, we can decrypt that entry on the fly
2120. # [22:56] <dholbert> I don't know how it actually works, but I bet that's how. :)
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2122. # [22:56] <dholbert> and I have enough confidence in our abilities to assume it works at least that well / securely. :)
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2124. # [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ac511266b2c - Ethan Hugg - Bug 807012 - Signaling - reorder initiialization of CallControlManagerImpl r=jesup
2125. # [22:57] <guggero> well the documentation is pretty good on how the passwords are encrypted. it just doesn't say what happens with them after decryption
2126. # [22:57] <Pike> bent: fyi, turns out that you can safely remove the fileXXX dir corresponding to your page in yourprofile/indexedDB. At least it worked for me, though I had the browser down while I did it
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2128. # [22:58] <bent> oh yes, deleting the folder is fine as long as the browser is down
2129. # [22:58] <bent> Pike, we need a bug on the file:// clear failing
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2139. # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97061a550935 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 817774 - Let nsIntRect not have a nsIntRect static data member, as that kills GDB printing it - r=dholbert
2140. # [23:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/852237e60012 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 822404 - Shouldn't use WANT_NEW_SURFACE when uploading DOM elements to WebGL textures - r=jgilbert
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2143. # [23:06] <ferjm> mayhemer, ping
2144. # [23:06] <mayhemer> ferjm: pong
2145. # [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/585a5af3a0a5 - Patrick Wang - Bug 821605 - Adding marionette test for SPDI. r=vicamo
2146. # [23:06] <ferjm> mayhemer, hi! sorry for bothering you again with this, I couldn't take a look at the tests about the offline cache until now
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2153. # [23:07] <ferjm> mayhemer, I am kind of lost. I am taking a look at the tests that you mentioned me but it seems that I can do it without the OfflineTest helper
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2155. # [23:08] <ferjm> mayhemer, just using the OfflineCacheUpdateService
2156. # [23:08] <mayhemer> ferjm: feel free
2157. # [23:08] <mayhemer> ferjm: I pointed them out just to save you work, it would be IMO just about few modifications to one of them and you have what you need.
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2159. # [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd10dfc5f834 - Ed Morley - Backout f5aaf21d0a2b (bug 722596) for python 2.6 compat issues
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2162. # [23:11] <seth> dholbert: could you do me a favor and check in bug 815471? it's all green on try but there were issues when it was checked in (it came with several other image lib refactoring patches); i want to establish whether the problem is in this patch or not
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2164. # [23:12] <jgilbert> Waldo: any chance I can get you to review bug 774390?
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2166. # [23:12] <dholbert> seth, sure
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2169. # [23:12] <seth> dholbert: thanks!
2170. # [23:12] <ferjm> mayhemer, how is so? I am probably not understanding the tests properly. I am not sure how could I call the cancel function using the OfflineTest helper. I mean, I need an instance of nsIOfflineCacheUpdate, but all that I can see are instances of nsIApplicationCache
2171. # [23:12] <Waldo> jgilbert: sigh, that bug
2172. # [23:13] <jgilbert> Waldo: yep :D
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2174. # [23:13] <Waldo> jgilbert: not right now, definitely
2175. # [23:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94bf149c73a3 - Brian Hackett - Bug 821788 - Prevent elimination of phis and resume point operands for operands of inline calls, r=jandem.
2176. # [23:13] <Waldo> jgilbert: just use MOZ_CRASH()
2177. # [23:13] * Waldo is in the middle of some debugging
2178. # [23:13] <mayhemer> ferjm: you have to get the update somehow, you can itetate using the udpate service
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2180. # [23:14] <mayhemer> ferjm: to reuse the existing test is good because we need to check we get onerror notification on the applicationCache object
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2184. # [23:15] <mayhemer> ferjm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/prefetch/nsIOfflineCacheUpdate.idl#211
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2190. # [23:15] <jgilbert> using MOZ_CRASH means writing my own macro(s) for now, though :<
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2194. # [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/821ceb9e2687 - David Keeler - bug 821098 - browser_pluginnotification.js should not call Services.perms.removeAll() r=jaws
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2196. # [23:17] <wchen> what do I do when right after I qfinish my patches, the tip in mozilla-inbound changes and I end up with a new head?
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2199. # [23:17] <dholbert> wchen, hg qimport -r -1 -r 2 -r -3
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2202. # [23:17] <dholbert> to move e.g. 3 patches from outgoing back to patch-queue
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2204. # [23:18] <dholbert> wchen, then you can qpop them, pull -u, qpush them, qfinish, etc
2205. # [23:18] <wchen> thanks
2206. # [23:18] <dholbert> np
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2209. # [23:19] <sfink> |hg qimport -r '-3:'| will grab the last 3 also, fwiw
2210. # [23:19] <ferjm> mayhemer, ok thanks :) I'll try with that.
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2212. # [23:19] <mayhemer> ferjm: thanks
2213. # [23:20] <dholbert> sfink, handy
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2215. # [23:21] <sfink> come to think of it, |hg qimport -r 'outgoing()'| would work in the general case
2216. # [23:21] <sfink> wish I'd thought of that sooner
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2221. # [23:25] <seth> anyone happen to know where in the (C++) code window.onload is fired?
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2223. # [23:25] <@smaug> seth: nsDocumentViewer.cpp
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2225. # [23:26] <seth> smaug: thanks
2226. # [23:26] <@khuey> search for "NS_LOAD"
2227. # [23:26] <@smaug> line 1010
2228. # [23:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6493a073d5ca - Ed Morley - Backout 97061a550935 (bug 817774) for build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
2229. # [23:26] <@smaug> running impttests is painful
2230. # [23:27] <@smaug> s/tt/t/
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2233. # [23:30] <Waldo> jgilbert: plz to not be using macros! there's no excuse!
2234. # [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3de630ebd0d - Steve Workman - Bug 816741 - Add a callback function in WebMReader for nestegg logging r=kinetik
2235. # [23:30] <mccr8> MACROS_RULE
2236. # [23:30] <Waldo> then everyone has to leave what your macro does
2237. # [23:30] <Waldo> mccr8: don't make me go all code-of-conduct-violation on you
2238. # [23:31] <Waldo> er, s/leave/learn/
2239. # [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0fce89f6128 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 817774 - Let nsIntRect not have a nsIntRect static data member, as that kills GDB printing it - r=dholbert
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2242. # [23:33] <@smaug> who might know about imptests?
2243. # [23:33] <seth> Waldo: #define leave learn
2244. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f774c6094808 - William Chen - Bug 820957 - Support object members in WebIDL dictionary. r=bz
2245. # [23:33] <jgilbert> Waldo: just like they'd need to learn any new function I add, except with less overhead and the ability to stringify expressions
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2247. # [23:34] <Waldo> jgilbert: why add a function? just do if (cond) MOZ_CRASH();
2248. # [23:34] <@smaug> if I run all the imptests I get 16 failures, but if I run the one which is failing, I get 290 failures :/
2249. # [23:35] <jgilbert> Waldo: it's nice when it says why it crashes
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2251. # [23:35] <@smaug> because it seems to be missing that we have list of known failures defined elsewhere
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2253. # [23:35] <Waldo> jgilbert: whatever you're doing shouldn't be crashing so often that you need to know, I'd hope
2254. # [23:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a99043b80e7 - Brian Hackett - Bug 821735 - Cleanup/fix population and checking of register and slot information in safepoints, r=jandem.
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2257. # [23:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86e0432487a7 - Gene Lian - Bug 821977 - ObjectWrapper.jsm needs to provide |type| property for the new blob. r=sicking
2258. # [23:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69dd94ceaf7e - Randy Lin - Bug 819965 - Unable to silence or control FM radio volume. r=sicking
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2260. # [23:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ef4348286d5 - Rob Wood - Bug 819213 - Change filter tests to use international format and reenable on TBPL, also remove previous changes by gwagner. r=gwagner
2261. # [23:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52557de563d7 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 758103 - Return charging time of zero if no battery interface exists. r=mounir, r=dhylands
2262. # [23:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87ec624190f2 - Vincent Chang - Bug 806531 - Incorrect WPA-EAP username/password does not trigger incorrect password prompt, retries with bad password forever. r=mrbkap
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2264. # [23:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be80d621f9bb - Gene Lian - Bug 821633 - Alarm API - .getAll() need to wrap the objects respecting to the content window (part 1, ObjectWrapper.jsm and Cu.createDateIn()). r=sicking
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2266. # [23:38] <Jesse> edmorley: it would be nice if the objdir clobbered itself instead of telling me to clobber it
2267. # [23:38] <@gavin> that might upset some people
2268. # [23:38] <edmorley> Jesse: are you bisecting, or has someone altered the clobber file?
2269. # [23:39] <jgilbert> Waldo: no, but that's not a good reason to not have macros :p
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2271. # [23:39] <edmorley> Jesse: and at least for releng builds, there is a bug filed for that
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2274. # [23:39] <Jesse> edmorley: right now, i'm just updating my local build
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2276. # [23:40] <Jesse> edmorley: it would be great if the clobber file helped with bisection too, but i'm not there yet ;)
2277. # [23:40] <edmorley> Jesse: what I mean is: I don't recall the file being changed so far, so unless I've missed something, this is a bug
2278. # [23:41] <edmorley> Jesse: oh bug 816576 changed it
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2280. # [23:41] <clokep> Was there a new dependency added in Mozilla 17? We're hitting an issue with Instantbird's buildbot not being able to find vorbis/codec.h, it builds fine on my system though.
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2285. # [23:42] <edmorley> Jesse: I imagine a "MOZ_AUTO_CLOBBER" could be used for releng, and interested parties could set that in their autoconfig too
2286. # [23:42] <edmorley> mozconfig even
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2289. # [23:44] <edmorley> Jesse: sounds reasonable?
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2291. # [23:44] <Jesse> yes. why would anyone not want that?
2292. # [23:45] <edmorley> Jesse: I meant making it opt-in
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2294. # [23:45] <Jesse> i don't understand why it needs to be opt-in
2295. # [23:45] <evilpie> bz: does it run different tests?
2296. # [23:46] <Jesse> i guess there was that one time i edited something in my objdir because i didn't want to wait for each build
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2298. # [23:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56f2d3fbcf49 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 822094 - Part 1: Unwrap the transfable parameter if allowed. r=sfink
2299. # [23:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cd15c87f867 - Iordache Catalin - Bug 821901 - Fix build warnings in /toolkit/components/places/nsNavHistoryResult.cpp. r=mak
2300. # [23:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d5cc2e8c111 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 822094 - Part 2: Add transfer parameter to window.postMessage. r=sicking
2301. # [23:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0c4f68563c3 - Seth Fowler - Bug 815471 - Don't assume that all imgIContainers are either a RasterImage or a VectorImage. r=joe
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2304. # [23:48] <tbsaunde> Jesse: I'd really rather not autoclobber since to date every time its claimed I need to clobber I've been jsut fine not doing so
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2306. # [23:48] <dholbert> seth, RyanVM beat me to landing that patch of yours
2307. # [23:48] <dholbert> seth, (tree was alternately busted & backlogged, so I hadn't loaded it yet :) )
2308. # [23:48] <seth> dholbert: he's tough to beat =)
2309. # [23:49] <edmorley> Jesse: we also don't have per platform clobber files
2310. # [23:49] <Jesse> tbsaunde: meh, the time you lose from tracking down a frankenfox bug is so much more than the time it takes to clobber
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2315. # [23:53] <tbsaunde> Jesse: I'm not sure I'm convinced, but if that's the way you like to do things be my guest
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2317. # [23:54] <Jesse> anyway, clobbering is mandatory now, so it's just a question of whether you delete the directory yourself or let the build system do it for you
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2322. # [23:55] <Jesse> mandatory as in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2002567
2323. # [23:55] <edmorley> Jesse: you can skip by touching the clobber file
2324. # [23:55] <Jesse> oh
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2326. # [23:55] <edmorley> on my list is to tweak the warning to mention that
2327. # [23:55] <Jesse> AT YOUR PERIL
2328. # [23:56] <edmorley> :-)
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2334. # [23:58] <tbsaunde> edmorley: I'd didn't know about that, I just tried cp srcdir/CLOBBER objdir/CLOBBER
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2336. # [23:59] <tbsaunde> and it worked and I went on with my life though I'm a little anoyed with BenWa for how many timmes I've had to do that
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