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# [00:00] <BenWa> tbsaunde: What's the problem you're running into?
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# [00:01] <BenWa> I'm not responsible for people requesting clobbers when they are not needed
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# [00:02] <tbsaunde> BenWa: but you made it possible for them to ;)
# [00:03] <tbsaunde> I'm just giving you a hard time mostly
# [00:03] <BenWa> tbsaunde: Well we're working with C++. If we don't trust the commiter and the reviewers then we've off to heap corruption land and other bad stuff
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# [00:04] <BenWa> tbsaunde: The one case that's not handled correctly is if you update back and forward across a CLOBBER boundary
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# [00:04] <tbsaunde> BenWa: also the case of needing to clobber on say mac but not linux
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# [00:05] <BenWa> true
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# [00:05] <tbsaunde> which is what I suspect the one use is, but I haven't proved that
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# [00:05] <BenWa> tbsaunde: true. but these days I just always clobber when updating and time it before lunch/meeting/end of day
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# [00:08] <njn> bz: do you know where the allocation in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2002593 gets stored?
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# [00:22] <jprmc> doublec: were you able to repro https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819686 ?
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# [00:30] <njn> hsivonen: ping?
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# [00:33] <BenWa> edmorley: clobber message change: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2002600 If you like it I'll file a bug for it
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# [00:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6447c6df9a7d - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 812584: Part 2 - Tweaks to update download retry prefs for B2G. r=fabrice
# [00:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/536a5fbaaa7f - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 812584: Part 1 - Always forward update download errors in B2G. r=bbondy
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# [00:37] <sewardj> jlebar: are you referring to the Dark Side of the Force there, or .. what?
# [00:39] <jlebar> sewardj: lol, yes. It's Yoda's line in one of the prequels.
# [00:39] <jlebar> sewardj: sorry if that was opaque. :)
# [00:39] <sewardj> jlebar: yeah, i was just thinking that it sounded like something Yoda would have said
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# [00:40] <sewardj> jlebar: we need glandium to tell us whether allocator mismatches are still a problem, or not
# [00:41] <sewardj> jlebar: I think he did some linker trickery on Android so they are not, but no idea if that applies to b2g too
# [00:41] <jlebar> sewardj: We've definitely seen some, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801571
# [00:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28dbf131791f - Chris Jones - Bug 820560: Run unprivileged processes with different uids when possible. r=kang a=blocking-basecamp
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# [00:44] <edmorley> BenWa: sgtm :-)
# [00:44] <sewardj> jlebar: meh. ok. I'll dig out my allocator-mismatch-checking patches and try again.
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# [00:44] <edmorley> BenWa: please can we also check for contents of the file, after the timestamp check
# [00:45] <edmorley> to help if popping/pushing but not building
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# [00:45] <BenWa> kk
# [00:45] <edmorley> thank you :-)
# [00:46] <BenWa> edmorley: Well it's hard to infer if the build will work or not
# [00:46] <BenWa> depends why the clobber is required
# [00:46] <edmorley> BenWa: if the clobber file hasn't changed contents since the last build, then we shouldn't need a clobber
# [00:47] <edmorley> since the objdir state is still in sync with the srcdir statew
# [00:47] <edmorley> s/w//
# [00:47] <doublec> jprmc: I have not yet got a working otoro b2g build
# [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31735047f644 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 820489: fix runSocialTestWithProvider to always disable social functionality entirely, before removing the selected provider, r=markh
# [00:47] <BenWa> I don't know if that generalizes but is likely true often
# [00:47] <doublec> jprmc: but when I do, i'll try it
# [00:48] <BenWa> Well for now I'll land what I have. Lets fix this seperatly
# [00:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3a4d799d6775 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 800862 - Unwind bailouts exception with the interpreter. r=dvander, a=bajaj
# [00:49] <jprmc> doublec: thanks
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# [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e14c7409ede7 - Avi Halachmi - Bug 820167: Enable performance measurement of tab animation. r=jmuizelaar
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# [00:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53ab929e9386 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 821539 - Don't expose ad-hoc networks in the regular network list. r=vchang
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# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84a620ecdf72 - Dão Gottwald - merge backout
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# [01:17] <jhammel> jdm: ping
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# [01:18] <jwir3> I would like to simulate a mouse click for a test I'm writing (in JS). I've tried this approach: http://marcgrabanski.com/articles/simulating-mouse-click-events-in-javascript The problem, though, is that I can't get the window.GetSelection() object to actually populate anything other than 1. Is there a way I can do this manually, without a click, so I can use it in automated testing?
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# [01:23] <jdm> jhammel: pong
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# [01:24] <jhammel> jdm: so this may already be reported, but http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/?automation=1 isn't showing any bugs
# [01:24] <jhammel> which i don't think is accurate
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# [01:25] <jdm> grr
# [01:25] <jdm> thanks fo rthe heads up
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# [01:25] <jhammel> np :)
# [01:25] <jhammel> thanks for writing bugsahoy :)
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# [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f5c8262d399 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1cd15c87f867 (bug 821901) for crashes.
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# [01:32] <firebot> Check-in:
# [01:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab307f02af0c - Jeff Walden - Bug 792108 - Implement JSCLASS_EMULATES_UNDEFINED to allow objects of a given class to act like the value |undefined| in certain contexts. Also add a TI flag for such
# [01:32] <firebot> objects, permitting us to assume that no objects use the flag until one is observed, also speeding up object-is-truthy tests when no falsy object is observed. r=jandem, r=bz
# [01:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2e51aa6f606 - Jeff Walden - Bug 822350 - Make generated bindings include mozilla/FloatingPoint.h directly if they use it. r=bz
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# [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3aa1bed744bb - David Keeler - bug 820497 - update popup notification for click-to-play more often r=jaws
# [01:37] <jdm> jhopkins: fixed
# [01:37] <jdm> er
# [01:37] <jdm> nevermind
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# [01:39] <jwir3> How does window.getSelection() get populated? Should it be populated (to something other than always '1') by doing something like this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2002686
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# [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1a57065f541 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 821311: Search suggestion text illegible. [r=bnicholson]
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# [01:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/391f4cf534e1 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 822283 - Make APIs that access strictMode() on the TokenStream private. r=njn
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# [02:02] <gkw> multiple oranges here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=53ab929e9386
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# [02:02] <gkw> maybe releng issue
# [02:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd2eb9705765 - Gary Kwong - Workaround YARR assert (bug 808478, r=sstangl).
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# [02:03] <dholbert> yeah, that's not looking good
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# [02:07] <avih> is there a preferred convention for bool prefs to end with |.enabled|? i'm looking through the bool prefs, and many pref names definitely don't hint they're bools...
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# [02:08] <gkw> dholbert: updating the message at the top of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound ?
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# [02:09] <gkw> dholbert: ok, it's now updated. thanks!
# [02:09] <dholbert> gkw, just did
# [02:09] <dholbert> yup
# [02:09] <dholbert> filed the bug first so I could link to it
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# [02:10] <gkw> dholbert: fantastic
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# [02:12] <dholbert> ah, looks like the next push fixes an xpcshell test issue... I wonder if that addresses these as well, since these seem to be crashes in xpcshell
# [02:12] <dholbert> RyanVM, perhaps you know?
# [02:12] <RyanVM> dholbert: i doubt it
# [02:12] <RyanVM> those tests were green on the push which broke xpcshell
# [02:12] <RyanVM> dholbert: thanks for filing and closing, btw
# [02:13] <dholbert> RyanVM, np! & good sleuthing RE those tests being green on the earlier push
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# [02:13] <NeilAway> jwir3: window.getSelection() is a DOM Selection object, but it has a custom toString implementation
# [02:13] <RyanVM> it was my broken push :P
# [02:13] <RyanVM> (the xpcshell bustage)
# [02:13] <dholbert> heh. :)
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# [02:15] <Callek> RyanVM: I'm incliined to think 822514 is code-related and not releng related, nothing affecting that releng wise shoul dhave happened today (afaict)
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# [02:24] <RyanVM> dholbert: next push is going green. Willing to call it gremlins?
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# [02:24] <RyanVM> (though we should probably clobber & retrigger on blake's push)
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# [02:25] <RyanVM> dholbert: i just clobbered Android and retriggered a build on blake's push and the push afer
# [02:26] <dholbert> RyanVM, gremlins it is!
# [02:26] <RyanVM> (I'll note that we've seen this kind of stuff before)
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# [02:28] <dholbert> m-i reopened
# [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8697feee8fa1 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 810572, part 2.5 - rename AccType constants again, r=tbsaunde, sr=roc
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# [02:34] <seth> khuey: sounds like you're talking to dbaron, but i had a quick question for you when you're available
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# [02:39] <RyanVM> dholbert: you know, I'm pretty sure there's a "he who smelt it dealt it" rule with respect to closing the tree and starring things when it reopens ;) :P
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# [02:40] <Waldo> haha
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# [02:44] <dholbert> aiight, /me stars the pile of oranges
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# [02:45] <ewong> that pile of orange and red.. for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=53ab929e9386 what do they mean? the cset needs to come out? or just star like there's no tomorrow?
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# [02:47] <ewong> nvm.. dholbert answered my question with that stars..
# [02:47] <ewong> s/that/the/
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# [02:50] <@dolske> oh, man, the first two sentences leave me so confused and/or laughing... http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9667
# [02:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a641f55054a - Chris Double - Bug 821160 - Part5: Package froyo libomxplugin libraries on Android - r=mark.finkle
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a2058a476b5 - Chris Double - Bug 821160 - Part4: Add libstagefright stub libraries for Froyo - r=cpeterson
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49ff58ad7d24 - Chris Double - Bug 821160 - Part2: Add libomxplugin support for froyo - r=cpeterson
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/143ce885103a - Chris Double - Bug 821160 - Part6: Build changes for froyo libomxplugin libraries on Android - r=khuey
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaf4ae2968bb - Chris Double - Bug 821160 - Part1: Media plugin backend changes for Froyo support - r=cpeterson
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ff7877b3133 - Chris Double - Bug 821160 - Part3: Add Android OS headers for Froyo - r=cpeterson
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# [02:52] <@dolske> hah. "In 2003, when Opera started the spec that's now called HTML5, ..." Opera had html5 first!!1!
# [02:52] <seth> khuey, baron: heh, so it turns out that border-image DOES animate right now, because if an image is animated it calls ExtractFrame every time it gets drawn, triggering a copy each time
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# [02:52] <@dolske> "The BlackBerry platform continues to be a leader in support of web standards and implementation of those standards."
# [02:52] <seth> baron rather. argh autocomplete! that's it, i'm turning it off
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# [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b627cef1d7d2 - Alexander J. Vincent - Bug 812302 - nsSAXXMLReader::HandleXMLDeclaration should report its results. r+sr=smaug
# [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab006da8f88d - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 822406 - Use transaction.error.name when possible. r=gwagner
# [02:57] <Mavericks> what's ELF system @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/xpcom/base/nscore.h.html#l46 ?
# [02:57] <@dolske> khuey: you'll enjoy the full quote. http://www.w3.org/2012/12/html5-cr#rim
# [02:58] <Mavericks> I came across while trying to read more about usage of NS_HIDDEN_<type> which can be seen @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/xpcom/glue/nsStringAPI.h.html?string=nsCString_external#l46
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# [03:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55b179e8c980 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 813531 - Part 1: Fix pre-existing bugs by making sure we update the overflow areas of nsSVGOuterSVGFrame children when reflowing after a previous reflow that
# [03:26] <firebot> occurred when the viewport was zero-sized. r=roc.
# [03:26] <Mavericks> roc: taking a look now
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# [03:27] <Mavericks> roc: owwwwhhhhh! :)
# [03:27] <Mavericks> thank you
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# [03:30] <Mavericks> i googled it and ignored that same wiki link for some reason. it even showed up in a small box to the right giving possible ELF I'm looking for :(
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# [03:31] <Mavericks> roc: it's all coming back now. recalled sifting through bunch of .elf files before. thanks again
# [03:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d622ae0a8a23 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 813531 - Part 2: Stop reconstructing the entire SVG frame tree after the initial reflow of nsSVGOuterSVGFrame frames that have a viewBox. r=roc.
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# [03:32] <RyanVM> cpeterson: ping
# [03:33] <cpeterson> RyanVM, pong
# [03:33] <RyanVM> cpeterson: cdouble's push is red on Android
# [03:33] <RyanVM> you r+ed it
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# [03:33] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18035818&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [03:33] <RyanVM> see a quick fix?
# [03:33] <RyanVM> otherwise, I've got the backout push ready
# [03:33] <cpeterson> RyanVM, let me look real quick. He probably just forgot one of his patches.
# [03:34] <@roc> doublec: ^^^
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# [03:35] <doublec> roc: yeah looking
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# [03:36] <cpeterson> RyanVM, doublec: I think the build error only affects debug builds.
# [03:37] <cpeterson> doublec: "kKeyStride not declared" error here: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/annotate/d622ae0a8a23/media/omx-plugin/OmxPlugin.cpp#l511
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# [03:37] <doublec> cpeterson, RyanVM: I have a fix, can I just push it?
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# [04:43] <RyanVM> njn: a couple of the dmd patches didn't uplift cleanly to aurora
# [04:43] <RyanVM> not sure if there's a missing dependency that didn't get approved
# [04:43] <njn> RyanVM: perhaps -- which ones?
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# [04:44] <RyanVM> bug 819817 and bug 820875
# [04:44] <RyanVM> both had conflicts in DMD.cpp
# [04:44] <RyanVM> and the conflicts were in lines that were being directly changed by the patch
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# [04:45] <RyanVM> njn: at this point, I've pushed all the approved DMD patches that applied OK
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# [04:45] <njn> RyanVM: Bug 820875 had two patches land, did you account for that?
# [04:45] <njn> the 2nd one basically redid the first
# [04:46] <njn> but only the 2nd got approval...
# [04:46] <RyanVM> ahh, I bet that's it
# [04:46] <njn> sorry :/
# [04:46] <RyanVM> and 819817 probably depends on the first one from 820875
# [04:46] <njn> yeah
# [04:46] <RyanVM> yep, that's exactly it
# [04:46] <RyanVM> OK, I'll get them tomorrow then
# [04:46] <RyanVM> getting to be bedtime for me
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# [04:58] <RyanVM> njn: out of curiosity, have you been able to test dmd on b2g18 yet?
# [04:58] <RyanVM> (I always get nervous when I need to fix things up a bit during uplifting)
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# [05:03] <gkw> thanks for helping out though
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# [05:08] <fabrice> RyanVM: pong
# [05:09] <RyanVM> fabrice: too late, backed you out already :P
# [05:09] <fabrice> RyanVM: hu
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# [05:10] <fabrice> damn
# [05:10] <fabrice> RyanVM: I'll push myself tomorrow
# [05:12] <RyanVM> fabrice: OK, sounds good
# [05:12] <RyanVM> probably an easy fix
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# [05:18] <fabrice> RyanVM: woot! Thanks a lot!
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# [05:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ef2edc84da0 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 818626 - Release nsPresContext after its PresShell when destroying an nsPrintObject. r=roc
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# [06:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f4d1f3980d21 - Robert Strong - Partial fix (all but test_0201_app_launch_apply_update_svc.js) for - Bug 762032 - Intermittent test_0201_app_launch_apply_update.js, test_0201_app_launch_apply_update_svc.js
# [06:52] <firebot> test_0203_app_launch_apply_update_svc.js | WindowsError: [Error 13] The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process: '...helper.exe'. r=bbondy, a=test-only
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# [07:00] <gw280> I've got -E -P to get rid of the line markers, but newlines aren't being expanded
# [07:00] <gw280> so functions are a wall of text
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# [07:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/607731c891dd - Matt Woodrow - Bug 821995 - Revert an incorrect change to matrix multiplication in ChooseScaleAndSetTransform. r=roc
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# [07:28] <firebot> mistyped as assignment". r=mak
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# [07:44] <glandium> sewardj: the mismatches we don't have to care about are the operator new()/free() | malloc()/operator delete() ones
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# [07:52] <jlebar|away> glandium: We don't LD_PRELOAD on desktop?
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# [07:52] <jlebar> Or is cjones just out of his mind?
# [07:52] <cjones> we link jemalloc into firefox-bin
# [07:52] <glandium> jlebar: we don't, but with jemalloc in the executable, it's about the same as ld_preloading
# [07:52] <glandium> jlebar: but it doesn't prevent the libc to call its own malloc directly without going through the plt
# [07:53] <jlebar> Okay, same as on B2G. So there's no practical difference between our strategies on the platforms; the only difference is that we don't know that B2G isn't calling functions in libc which allocate that we don't know about.
# [07:53] <jlebar> And we don't know that external libraries aren't calling functions in libc which allocate.
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# [07:55] <jlebar> e.g. asprintf.
# [07:56] <cjones> that's the one
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# [07:56] <jlebar> Well, it sounds like njn or I should cook up our dmd-based tool for finding invalid frees. It shouldn't take too long to get something usable. Maybe we can get it done before the holiday.
# [07:56] <jlebar> That would actually tell us what we're trying to figure out.
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# [07:58] <jlebar> glandium: orly?
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# [07:59] <jlebar> glandium: Right right, but is that what's causing this bug?
# [07:59] <jlebar> Like, are we actually seeing an allocator mismatch, and if so, where from?
# [07:59] <glandium> jlebar: external libs have been identified to call asprintf
# [07:59] <glandium> they then call free() with the pointer they get from there
# [08:00] <jlebar> glandium: But that bug is about external vendor libraries which I didn't think we were testing with.
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# [10:10] <jesup> cpearce: \o/ Cool
# [10:10] <cpearce> :D
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# [10:14] * jesup wonders why we have WindowID instead of just using a pointer... Doesn't even save space (and on 32bit builds actually loses on space)
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# [10:15] <NeilAway> jwir3|away: iirc scripted events don't invoke default actions but you can always change the dom selection using the selection APIs...
# [10:15] <jesup> And it's a one-way function; you can't get back the Window from the WindowID unless you're nsGlobalWindow or you cached it in your own translation Hash (which is what I'm going to have to do, probably)
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# [10:16] <jesup> I suppose it allows for nicer debugs: Window 34 just got a Foo event
# [10:17] <NeilAway> mak: so, I asked joe_walker and he doesn't think chaining .then()s does what you want
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# [10:18] <jesup> Never mind, finally found GetInnerWindowWithId
# [10:18] <mak> NeilAway: ah! I honestly didn't verify that (paolo was so used to promises I trusted his judgement). I suppose it's easy to verify what happens in Scratchpad
# [10:18] <joe_walker> NeilAway: really gozala is the person to ask about promises, he's here, but i suspect he's not awake right now
# [10:18] <jesup> Though it still seems kinda worthless
# [10:20] <NeilAway> joe_walker: so, what's the promise version of finally { } ?
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# [10:23] <joe_walker> NeilAway: what you pointed at yesterday could be it, but gozala and scratchpad or the docs are better ways to learn
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# [10:23] <NeilAway> joe_walker: we have docs?
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# [10:24] <joe_walker> let me google that for you ...
# [10:24] <joe_walker> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/developers/docs/sdk/1.12/modules/sdk/core/promise.html
# [10:24] <mak> NeilAway: wfm http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2003273
# [10:25] <mak> tried with reject and resolve and in both cases the chain continues
# [10:26] <NeilAway> bah, another of those sites that delivers content by script
# [10:26] <mak> NeilAway: I think to interrupt the chain you have to not handle the rejection, than it is propagated back
# [10:26] <mak> then
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# [10:30] <@dolske> ...seriously? HTML 5.1? http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-html51-20121217/
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# [10:32] <Ms2ger> dolske, just as irrelevant as HTML5
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> They need to appear to be doing something
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# [10:33] <mak> I thought they said version 5 was the last one, then only additions were done to a generic "HTML"
# [10:33] <ewong> mak ping
# [10:34] <mak> ewong: hi
# [10:34] <@dolske> Ms2ger: but... it even says XHTML right in the title. It's the future!
# [10:34] <ewong> mak hi.. I'm looking at bug #820797.. the basic idea is to convert addVisit() to updatePlaces(), right?
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# [10:35] <Ms2ger> mak, nah, HTML development is happening at the WHATWG, in an unversioned spec; the W3C HTML WG publishes out-of-date snapshots disregarding its own process
# [10:35] <ewong> mak I'm very unfamiliar with the code.. just trying it out
# [10:35] <mak> ewong: yes, though I suppose the scope in Seamonkey is just to verify if there are any calls left one the browser tests are ported (we still have to fix some of the browser tests)
# [10:35] <NeilAway> mak, joe_walker: hmm, there are multiple Promise implementations in the tree :s
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# [10:36] <mak> ewong: so I'd suggest to wait we fix our tests in places and then they get ported to SM, at that point you may just fix any remaining call (I suppose zero, but not sure)
# [10:36] <mak> NeilAway: yes, though the de-facto standard we use is the addons sdk one
# [10:36] <ewong> oh.. ok.
# [10:36] <ewong> mak thanks!
# [10:36] <mak> yw, I
# [10:37] <mak> I'll clarify in the bug
# [10:37] <@dolske> I kind of want to troll up a thread complaining about version numbering. 5.1? Should be 6!
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# [10:37] <ewong> mak I made a patch for that bug.. not entirely sure if I'm doing it right..
# [10:38] <edmorley> dolske: lol
# [10:38] <Ms2ger> dolske, don't... You may be a qualified troll, but the HTML WG has turned trolling into an art
# [10:38] <NeilAway> mak: oh!
# [10:38] <mak> ewong: well you may attach it, though we are moving most tests to promises, so it's possible that's not what we want
# [10:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: and that's coming from you... ;-)
# [10:38] <NeilAway> mak: so, I've been reading the devtools version :s
# [10:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: (and good morning btw :-))
# [10:38] <Ms2ger> edmorley, where do you think I learned the tricks?
# [10:38] <Ms2ger> And good morning to you too :)
# [10:38] <mak> NeilAway: ouch!
# [10:39] <ewong> mak ok.. maybe I'll wait for that.. don't wanna waste your time feedbacking on something that's totally irrelevant.
# [10:39] <@dolske> Ms2ger: the student is humbled by the masters.
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# [10:39] <NeilAway> mak: which admittedly is much easier on the eye
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# [10:40] <mak> NeilAway: I suppose there is a bug somewhere to unify the various implementations...
# [10:40] <mak> ewong: no problem, I'm sorry if you spent time on it... the relevant bug is bug 820764
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# [10:44] <NeilAway> mak, joe_walker: ok, so the addons sdk promise's then() says to invoke the success or error function depending on how the promise is resolved, and return a *new* promise, which is resolved using the return of whichever function was executed
# [10:44] <mak> NeilAway: see also the propagation part
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# [10:46] <mak> NeilAway: btw, while here maybe you can help me. I'm registering a manifest with componentsRegistrar->AutoRegister, though looks like it can't find the implementation (CreateInstance fails), any idea what I'm missing?
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# [10:47] <gaston> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454
# [10:47] <Ms2ger> 'tis a classic
# [10:49] <NeilAway> mak, joe_walker: i.e. var foo = Promise.defer(); foo.then(baz1, baz2).then(baz3, baz4); is the same as var foo = Promise.defer(); var bar = Promise.defer(); bar.then(baz3, baz4); foo.then(function() bar.resolve(baz1()), function() bar.resolve(baz2()));
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# [10:55] <NeilAway> mak: no, you care that 3 comes after 2 ;-)
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# [10:56] <mak> 1 or 2
# [10:56] <mak> if I'm using it as a "finally"
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# [10:58] <NeilAway> mak: even the devtools version ensures that 3 comes after 1 :-)
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# [12:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9de0882a928c - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 818816; add conditional breakpoints for the ARM macro assembler. r=mjrosenb
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# [12:02] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: not specifically
# [12:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4c12b8bf11f - Trevor Saunders - bug 822580 - clean up nsAccUtils functions for position r=surkov
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# [12:03] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: ok, would be nice though
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# [12:17] <edmorley> grrr google calendar integration breaking tbpl again
# [12:17] <gfritzsche> edmorley: have you seen that first 10.7 Moth before? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6d32ad18e1e8&noignore=1
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# [12:18] <edmorley> gfritzsche: no to both
# [12:18] <gfritzsche> edmorley: ok, thanks
# [12:18] <edmorley> gfritzsche: perhaps retrigger a bunch
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# [12:18] <Ms2ger> edmorley, hey, how's that sheriff app coming along?
# [12:18] * Ms2ger laughs maniacally
# [12:18] <edmorley> Ms2ger: it's not really
# [12:19] <edmorley> Ms2ger: since we don't do sheriff shifts
# [12:19] <Ms2ger> I guess we do do buildduty shifts
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# [12:19] <edmorley> so it's really blocked on "decide how we want the sheriffing model to work"
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# [12:20] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah for buildduty, though I'm just as happy to ripe the google calendar integration out and just link to the schedule
# [12:20] <Ms2ger> r=me
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# [12:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d464fe9bd01 - Jonathan Kew - bug 822048 - use a /fonts/ subdir for any locally-added fonts stored in the profile. r=blassey
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# [12:30] <edmorley> gfritzsche: if you decide the failure is unrelated to your push, let me know and I'll file it
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# [13:11] <Mavericks> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/parser/htmlparser/src/nsHTMLEntities.cpp.html?string=nsHTMLEntities.cpp#l35
# [13:13] <Mavericks> the static cast happens two lines above it. Is it guaranteed that entry->node->mStr exists ? even if entry is valid
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# [13:20] <Ms2ger> Add the null-check, I think
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# [13:29] <Mavericks> thank you Ms2ger would NS_ENSURE_ARG(entry) suffice ? does this guarantee that ->node->mStr will work if entry's not null ?
# [13:29] <Mavericks> i'm trying to understand that how value for Node and mstr will carry over when static cast happens
# [13:30] <Ms2ger> I'd just make it return entry->node->mStr && str && strcmp(...) == 0;
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# [13:33] <Mavericks> nice. aaah I tried it on vc++ and it throws error unless I wrap it in braces . somehow it doesn't understand the a && b which's strange.
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# [14:04] <edmorley> rnewman: ping
# [14:04] <edmorley> ah SF, bit early, sorry
# [14:05] <jfkthame> go on, wake him up!
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# [14:06] <edmorley> I was just wondering what the best IRC channel was to list against the repo "services-central", for bug 822596
# [14:06] <edmorley> #sync and #identity are listed on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Services/Sync/Getting_Started#IRC
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# [14:18] <sankha93> tbsaunde: hi
# [14:19] <tbsaunde> sankha93: hi
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# [14:20] <sankha93> tbsaunde: I received an email from Shriram, who said that he was trying to find me on IRC
# [14:20] <sankha93> to talk about the bug
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# [14:20] <sankha93> what is his IRC nick?
# [14:22] <tbsaunde> sankha93: I have no idea
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# [14:22] <tbsaunde> sankha93: and no idea what bug
# [14:22] <sankha93> bug 820672
# [14:24] <sankha93> btw, will I change any method to match the new |nsTArray::Sort| function prototype?
# [14:24] <edmorley> sankha93: mozillians.org doesn't list anyone by that name
# [14:25] <tbsaunde> sankha93: not sure what your question is
# [14:25] <edmorley> sankha93: neither does the mozilla phonebook
# [14:25] <gcp> Sriram?
# [14:25] <edmorley> !seen sriram
# [14:25] <firebot> sriram was last seen 13 hours, 1 minute and 37 seconds ago, saying 'but this is in a different place' in #mobile.
# [14:25] <sankha93> edmorley, gcp: Shriram, yes. But its ok!
# [14:26] <sankha93> !seen shriram
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# [14:26] <firebot> shriram was last seen 203 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes and 50 seconds ago,
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# [14:28] <sankha93> tbsaunde: btw, will I change any method to match the new |nsTArray::Sort| function prototype?
# [14:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/923df1a7c8ca - Ted Mielczarek - bug 821299 - Make ALSA WebRTC backend expose proper IDs using device names. r=jesup
# [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd40e91ec703 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 821306 - Expose nsIMediaDevice.id to script. r=jst
# [14:29] <Mavericks> sankha93: i sent you the email. need something ?
# [14:30] <sankha93> oh Mavericks, sorry I couldn´t find you earlier
# [14:31] <Mavericks> no problem.
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# [14:32] <sankha93> comment 8 was certainly helpful! :D
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# [14:34] <Mavericks> yes, all's well :)
# [14:37] <Mavericks> sankha93: next time i will be careful when i say patch's good. glad tbsaunde and sankha93 pointed out the corrections
# [14:37] <Mavericks> err jlebar|sleep rather
# [14:37] <sankha93> Mavericks: hahah.. :D
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# [15:30] <past> edmorley: is there a bug on file to hide B2G nightly builds in fx-team?
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# [15:31] <edmorley> past: as in they aren't wanted, so let's switch them off?
# [15:32] <past> edmorley: they are perma-red and I don't see them enabled in m-c
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# [15:32] <past> edmorley: I should have said *dektop* nightlies
# [15:32] <edmorley> ah
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# [15:33] <past> edmorley: ok, thanks!
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# [15:36] <edmorley> past: filed bug 822651
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# [15:37] <edmorley> yw
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# [15:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6036a834a57 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 814455 - skip all intermittently failing glsl tests on android - r=jgilbert
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# [15:45] <espindola> are functions like JS_NewObject thread safe?
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# [15:46] <Ms2ger> No
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# [15:50] <espindola> thanks
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# [15:52] <Mavericks> Ms2ger: description of cx @ https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey/JSAPI_Reference/JS_NewObject says 'in a threadsafe build'
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# [15:53] <Mavericks> so is that an indicator that it depends on the build to determine if it's threadsafe and JS_NewObject has nothing to do with it?
# [15:53] <jorendorff> Mavericks: docs are wrong, we changed it and nobody updated the docs
# [15:53] <Ms2ger> "In a JS_THREADSAFE build, the caller must be in a request on this JSContext."
# [15:53] <Mavericks> oh ok
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# [15:54] <jorendorff> I guess that is still true.
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# [15:54] <jorendorff> Mavericks: Almost everything in the JSAPI is single-threaded.
# [15:55] <jorendorff> You create and use a JSRuntime for each thread, and use it only on that thread.
# [15:55] <jorendorff> Wow, copying these docs from one wiki system to another over the years has left it in a pretty ugly state.
# [15:56] <Mavericks> aah just read the doc on JS_THREADSAFE
# [15:56] <Mavericks> cool
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# [15:57] <jorendorff> wow, we should delete JS_NewObject :)
# [15:57] <jorendorff> "parent" lol
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# [16:57] <jwatt> someone mentioned a way to start Nightly with minimal UI for debugging
# [16:57] <jwatt> can anyone tell me how you do that?
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# [16:59] <vlad> jwatt: firefox -chrome http://url/ ?
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# [17:02] <jwatt> vlad: hmm, the url being the page I want to load, or a minimal UI thing I create?
# [17:02] <vlad> well, do you actually want any UI?
# [17:02] <jwatt> no, not really, but I don't want the page to be treated as privileged either
# [17:03] <vlad> I mean, just try it, I'm not sure what you want
# [17:03] <jwatt> ok, ta
# [17:03] <vlad> then I dunno, you can create a simple xul file with a non-privileged <browser> in it or something
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# [17:18] <@bsmedberg> Is there a menu item that will show me the "organize your tabs" UI?
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# [17:20] <vladan> bsmedberg: i think you have to add the panorama icon back to the toolbar
# [17:20] <@bsmedberg> there's not a keystroke?
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# [17:21] <edmorley> ctrl + shift + e
# [17:21] <vladan> ^^
# [17:21] <@bsmedberg> I kept looking in the "view" menu...
# [17:21] <edmorley> iirc once you enter it the first time, the toolbar icon appears or something similar
# [17:22] <@bsmedberg> I removed the icon.
# [17:22] <@bsmedberg> What I really wanted was a list view where I could close a bunch of tabs without loading them.
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# [17:32] <Mavericks> edmorley: vow that was cool. the switch happened so fast :)
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# [17:32] <edmorley> :-)
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# [17:35] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: try crashing your browser twice in a row?
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# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: yeah, that's usually how I clean up my tabs.
# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> I just can't get it to crash!
# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> #firstworldproblems
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# [17:36] <jcranmer> the most reliable way for me is to open up a PDF.js tab, wait for my graphics driver to crash, then view the PDF.js tab
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# [17:37] <Mavericks> when i hit ctrl+shift+e, i noticed something to day when i started exploring the screen, there's a name your tab group on the top. i hardly noticed it but's very useful. 'name your tab group' letters to darker color and explicitly showing it all times instead of only on focus will help
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# [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c15559168956 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 821804 - Allow unitialized WeakPtrs to work properly. r=Waldo
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# [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/809b98789ee3 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 822378 - Update the overflow rects of the child frames when an nsSVGOuterSVGFrame's children-only transform changes. r=longsonr, a=bajaj.
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# [18:03] <firebot> the viewport was zero-sized. r=roc, a=bajaj.
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# [18:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd66c58db0f7 - Neil Deakin - Bug 798226, rework arrow positioning and alignment code for arrow panels to be simpler, using the actual anchor/alignment position rather than guessing this from the
# [18:11] <firebot> coordinates, fix centred positioning in rtl, r=neil
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# [18:24] <Optimizer> to someone who attended the platform meeting today : What do they mean by "Add DevTools back" ?
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# [18:24] <Waldo> Optimizer: platform meeting isn't for another 1.5h
# [18:24] <Optimizer> https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Platform/2012-12-18&diff=494503&oldid=prev
# [18:24] <Optimizer> meeting notes had this :
# [18:25] <Optimizer> so now the question is redirected to anyone who knows the answer :P
# [18:25] <Waldo> I think that might mean to having a section in the meeting
# [18:25] <Optimizer> oh.
# [18:25] <Waldo> given it cross-cuts desktop and mobile Firefoxen and b2g, that's the best construction I can give it
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# [18:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e1427a1f27c4 - Olli Pettay - Bug 790978 - Convert MutationObserver to webidl, r=bz
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# [18:32] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: yeah, some sort of hash table enumerator seems reasonable, but why not just have the contructor take a pointer to the hash table and deal with copying itself instead of making the user call Enumerate, but that gets tricky with people who use raw pldhash
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# [18:33] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: also vim configs or other automated ways of checking indendation will be happily accepted
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# [18:40] <Waldo> raw pldhash? ಠ_ಠ
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# [18:43] <tbsaunde> Waldo: welcome to the lovely world of rdf/ :)
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# [18:43] <Waldo> we still have stuff that depends on rdf? :-(
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# [18:44] <tbsaunde> Waldo: that was just a dream
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# [18:44] <@dolske> patches welcome. :(
# [18:44] <Waldo> one day, that mountain will be made level
# [18:45] <fabrice> Waldo: add-ons still use install.rdf
# [18:45] <Waldo> sigh
# [18:45] <fabrice> also, probably the xul templates
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# [18:46] <Waldo> surely we could hack up a minimal thing that would use the XML parser and work on a DOM tree to implement install.rdf
# [18:46] <tbsaunde> Waldo: patches welcome :)
# [18:46] <Waldo> yeah yeah
# [18:47] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I think there is also some amount of concern about code sie with the templated hash tables
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# [18:47] <Waldo> fud
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# [18:47] <Waldo> throw some template specializations at it
# [18:47] <tbsaunde> but there absolutely no valid reason for people to use PL_Hash (the nspr one) afaik
# [18:48] <rnewman> edmorley: pong
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# [18:48] <edmorley> rnewman: hi :-)
# [18:48] <@dolske> it's also been suggested that we simply stop (well, transition away from) using RDF for install.rdf. There was some issue but I don't remember what it was. :
# [18:48] <@dolske> :/
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# [18:49] <edmorley> rnewman: my ping was just to ask what IRC channel was most appropriate to list for services-central, in TBPL under the "current sheriff" section. #sync? or #identity ? (presume the former)
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# [18:50] <rnewman> #sync
# [18:50] <rnewman> particularly me, gps, or mconnor as a router
# [18:50] <Mossop> dolske: When I redid the add-ons manager I specifically made it easy to swap out the function that parses install.rdf with something else. Only real issue is that we'd still need to support RDF for quite some time to come
# [18:51] <edmorley> rnewman: thank you (context bug 822596)
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# [18:52] <mconnor> Mossop: if it means killing RDF, special-casing that seems worthwhile #deathToRDF
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# [18:53] <gfritzsche> edmorley: if you still want to file, i'm pretty sure now that that OSX Moth is unrelated to my changes: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=39a5bae167f0&noignore=1
# [18:53] <edmorley> gfritzsche: thank you
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# [18:53] <Mossop> mconnor: I also once-upon-a-time wrote an RDF parser in JS. Passes more of the RDF test-suite than our in-tree one does ;)
# [18:53] <@dolske> Mossop: wow, and you admit to writing that in public? :)
# [18:54] <Mossop> Yep
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# [18:54] <@dolske> bold
# [18:54] <Mossop> I'm not ashamed of the things I did in my youth
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# [18:54] <@dolske> brazen, even.
# [18:54] <@gavin> Mossop: we can "support rdf" (at least the install.rdf subset) easily without an actual RDF parser, no?
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# [18:54] <Mossop> gavin: Depends how many add-ons you want to break. Some of them do some pretty ridiculous stuff
# [18:54] <Archaeopteryx> and the update.rdf, i guess?
# [18:55] <@smaug> those are xml files, right?
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# [18:55] <rnewman> edmorley: thanks!
# [18:55] <Mossop> RDF is XML based yes
# [18:55] <tbsaunde> Archaeopteryx: does that have to do with addons?
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# [18:55] <@dolske> Waldo: hmm, you're gonna need a bigger yakshaver.
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# [18:56] <Archaeopteryx> tbsaunde: updates for addons
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# [18:56] <@gavin> Mossop: really? popular ones?
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# [18:56] <@gavin> what possible use would you have for ridiculous use of rdf in install.rdf?
# [18:56] <@smaug> there is XML format for RDF but also other format
# [18:56] <@smaug> s
# [18:56] <Mossop> True
# [18:56] <Mossop> I've never actually seen any other form in use tbh
# [18:57] <mconnor> Axiom: just because someone does it doesn't mean we should support it.
# [18:57] <Mook_as> the update signing thing tool rewrote install.rdf using the mozilla serializer, which is pretty ridiculous-looking.
# [18:57] <Mossop> gavin: Things like entities to copy the same string to multiple places in the file. Not sure how popular but it tends to be the more experienced and prolific authors that learn hacks
# [18:57] <Mossop> Mook_as: That's why I wrote my own parser ;)
# [18:58] <@smaug> brb. I'll be back real soon. hopefully the tree won't burn
# [18:58] <mconnor> Mossop: can't you do that directly in .dtd files?
# [18:58] <@gavin> Mossop: entities are just XML, not something RDF-specific, right?
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# [18:58] <Waldo> I would assume if you were doing something, you'd use our XML parser, then do some namespace/localName examination to implement the relevant RDF subset atop it
# [18:58] <Mook_as> Mossop: but you needed your own serializer :p
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# [18:58] <Mossop> Mook_as: Yeah, it serialises too
# [18:58] <Mossop> But it had to parse a well
# [18:58] <mconnor> Mossop: weird that people would do that in the RDF, feels fragile as hell.
# [18:58] <Mossop> Waldo: Exactly
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# [18:59] <Mossop> mconnor: Partly caused by our poor localisation support
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# [18:59] <mconnor> Mossop: hmm, ok. feels like if the deal is "fix some l10n stuff in exchange for killing RDF" we're golden
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# [19:00] <Mossop> gavin: Sure, but in the install.rdf you'll find tuples as attributes, tuples as elements, basically most of the RDF format is in use
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# [19:00] <Mossop> mconnor: That isn't the deal. That doesn't help us kill RDF, the only reason not to kill RDF is that we'd still have to support it anyway
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# [19:01] <@dolske> step 1: implement support for the alternative
# [19:01] <@dolske> step 2: require AMO addons to use that
# [19:01] <@dolske> step 3: profit
# [19:01] <Mossop> If only
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# [19:01] <mconnor> dolske: there's a lot of dark matter out there
# [19:01] <mconnor> AIUI
# [19:01] <@ted> yeah
# [19:01] <Mossop> Yeah
# [19:01] <@dolske> indeed
# [19:02] <tbsaunde> but it is atleast a start
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# [19:02] <Mossop> Anyway last I asked pure XML was a preferable alternative (largely because we can easily provide a spec that editors can use to validate) but JSON was an alternative
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# [19:03] <Mossop> People also talked about integrating chrome.manifest into it too
# [19:03] <Mook_as> might also help if there's a way to generate whatever the new format is (like what happened with the contents.rdf -> chrome.manifest transition).
# [19:03] <@dolske> maybe we can add it to HTML 5.1
# [19:03] <@ted> you joke, but it's not a far stretch from extension manifests to webapp manifests
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# [19:04] <Archaeopteryx> dolske: aren't other browser vendors adding rdfa support?
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# [19:04] <tbsaunde> I wonder if we can talk Yoric into working on it to kill main thread IO
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# [19:05] <tumu-dev> hello everyone. i know basic java and want to contribute to java development in mozilla. can anyone tell me how to get started?
# [19:05] <Archaeopteryx> tumu-dev: http://v.gd/moz_dev_intro is a good start
# [19:05] <@bz> Anyone here know anything about worker memory reporting?
# [19:05] <Archaeopteryx> tumu-dev: the best place for questions is #introduction
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# [19:06] <mccr8> bz: jlebar might
# [19:06] <tumu-dev> thanks Archaeopteryx
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# [19:06] <jlebar> bz: I can try.
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# [19:06] <jlebar> bz: I was just hacking on it unsuccessfully. :)
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# [19:06] <@bz> jlebar: so as far as I can tell, memory reporting blocks on the worker event loop
# [19:07] <@bz> jlebar: so if you try to do a memory report while a worker is busy, it will block the main thread on the worker not being busy anymore, yes?
# [19:07] <jlebar> bz: I don't understand the mechanics, but bent said that the "control runnables" don't block on the worker's event loop; they run more quickly than that.
# [19:07] <@bz> jlebar: I'm looking at the sample at https://bug822407.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=693265
# [19:07] <@bz> jlebar: which is showing the main thread blocked in the memory reporter
# [19:08] <jlebar> bz: But it could be that bent was wrong, or I misunderstood.
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# [19:08] <@bz> jlebar: well, they don't block on other events in the worker event loop
# [19:08] <lizzard> lsblakk: are you gonna be in the office this afternoon?
# [19:08] <@bz> jlebar: but if the worker spends an hour processing a single event...
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# [19:08] <lsblakk> lizzard: i am
# [19:08] <@bz> jlebar: we'll be blocked for an hour, I expect
# [19:08] <lsblakk> lizzard: in fact, am already here :)
# [19:08] <lizzard> excellent! any chance I can snag a nifty phone to test?
# [19:08] <jlebar> bz: bent gave me the impression that the intent was to block for less than a single event, but I may have misunderstood.
# [19:08] <jlebar> Or perhaps the code doesn't function as intended.
# [19:09] <@bz> jlebar: what's interesting to me is that this memory report is coming from some JS running directly on the main-thread event loop
# [19:09] <jlebar> bz: telemetry?
# [19:09] <@bz> jlebar: do we do random memory reporting off the event loop nowadays?
# [19:09] <@bz> aha
# [19:09] <@bz> OK
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# [19:09] <@bz> Do you know when we started doing that?
# [19:09] <@bz> i.e. which branches this needs to be tracked on?
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# [19:09] <jlebar> bz: A long time ago, I think. So probably all branches, unless worker memory reporters are recent (I don't think they are).
# [19:10] <jlebar> bz: You can check telemetryping.js for "explicit non heap" (or maybe explicitnonheap)
# [19:10] <NeilAway> smaug: 790978 doesn't change the JS interface I take it?
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# [19:10] <@bz> jlebar: thanks!
# [19:10] <jlebar> bz: sure thing!
# [19:10] <lizzard> lsblakk: I am hoping for a phone to test b2g
# [19:10] <@smaug> NeilAway: right
# [19:11] <@smaug> NeilAway: well, it makes us to follow the spec
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# [19:11] <@smaug> NeilAway: in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15695 case
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# [19:12] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: actually RDF loads async by default, so you might be able to make it off-main-thread without changing anything
# [19:13] <@bz> jlebar: in this case the main thread was blocked for 23 minutes
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# [19:13] <@bz> jlebar: so clearly something is wrong... ;)
# [19:13] <jlebar> bz: Awesome. :)
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# [19:14] <NeilAway> smaug: um, wait, I can't pass an object as my callback any more?
# [19:14] <@bz> jlebar: I think it involves an addon running regexps on a 300MB data: URI in a worker or something
# [19:14] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: that's suprising, but ok
# [19:14] <@bz> jlebar: so we might be in regexp jitcode and hence never make it out to wherever processes these control runnables...
# [19:14] <@smaug> NeilAway: { handleMutations: function() {} } isn't supported anymore
# [19:15] <NeilAway> smaug: bah
# [19:15] <@smaug> sorry
# [19:15] <NeilAway> smaug: bah
# [19:15] <jlebar> bz: That sounds reasonable.
# [19:15] <NeilAway> smaug: bah
# [19:15] <@smaug> I like that syntax
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# [19:15] <jlebar> bz: What I did in my failed patch when I was hacking on workers was spin a nested event loop instead of blocking the main thread.
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# [19:15] <jlebar> bz: But that's introducing a bunch more edge cases.
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# [19:15] <@bz> jlebar: yeah, indeed
# [19:16] <@bz> jlebar: there should be better ways here (e.g. triggering the operation callback in regexp jitcode)
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# [19:16] <NeilAway> smaug: well, it looks as if I only have the one callback I need to fix
# [19:16] <NeilAway> smaug: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?string=handleMutations&find=suite
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# [19:18] <@smaug> NeilAway: sorry
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# [19:19] <@bz> Which is ok for now, but long-term....
# [19:20] <@smaug> NeilAway: I tried to convince others that callback interfaces are good thing, but lost the battle
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# [19:25] <@smaug> vlad: profiler doesn't work on linux
# [19:25] <@smaug> I can give you a sysprof profile
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# [19:25] <vlad> it should work, just not with full stackwalking, no?
# [19:26] <vlad> but yes, sysprof would be helpful too
# [19:26] <@smaug> without stackwalking it is useless
# [19:26] <vlad> not really; we have a lot of pseudo stack points, plus all JS shows up
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# [19:26] <@smaug> ok
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# [19:28] <@smaug> vlad: let me debug this
# [19:28] <@smaug> takes just a bit time
# [19:28] <cpeterson> re bug 805745: I don't have access to the bug, but I think I found STR. Can someone tell me whether the bug already has STR?
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# [19:30] <jwir3> is there any way to trigger native click-handling code within mochitests/reftests?
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# [19:32] <jdm> jwir3: synthesizeMouse?
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# [19:33] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=synthesizemouse
# [19:33] <jwir3> jdm: hmmm. yes, this may work. thank you!
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# [19:35] <philipp64|laptop> trying again here... Are there any Mac builds of certutil (part of nss)? I'm having some certificate issues that I can't troubleshoot just in TB, and it doesn't come bundled.
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# [19:36] <@bz> I have a certutil in my dist/bin....
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# [19:36] <jdm> philipp64|laptop: it appears that certutil should be in any distributed build
# [19:36] <jdm> it's in my dist/bin and my Nightly.app
# [19:37] <@bz> It's not packaged
# [19:37] <jdm> oh, hmm
# [19:37] <@bz> So it's not in a binary nightly you can download
# [19:37] <@bz> let me throw mine up somewhere where you can download it
# [19:37] <philipp64|laptop> well, given the DoS restrictions on export, I guess that's not surprising...
# [19:38] <Ms2ger> edmorley, is this known: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a90b4f6529f2 ?
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# [19:38] <@bz> philipp64|laptop: er... there are still such restrictions?
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# [19:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: bug 822653 and friends I would imainge
# [19:38] <edmorley> imagine
# [19:38] <Ms2ger> aaaaall the people
# [19:38] <Ms2ger> living life in peace?
# [19:38] <@bz> philipp64|laptop: try http://web.mit.edu/bzbarsky/www/certutil
# [19:39] <philipp64|laptop> bz: ummm.... don't know. the last time I worked on cryptography there definitely were.
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# [19:40] <@khuey> there are no US export restrictions on open-source crypto these days, afaik
# [19:40] <@bz> philipp64|laptop: was this last time more than 4-5 years ago?
# [19:40] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I'm running https://bug637680.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=515927 on broken b2g minidumps and it doesn't seem to be making any changes
# [19:40] <jdm> khuey: legal advised us that we should accept patches directly related to cryptographic algorithms from a potential contributor in syria
# [19:40] <jdm> something along those lines, at least
# [19:40] <jdm> er
# [19:40] <jdm> should *not*
# [19:41] <@khuey> jdm: fun
# [19:41] <glandium> bsmedberg: can you send me one such minidump?
# [19:41] <@bsmedberg> yes
# [19:41] <@bz> Hmm
# [19:41] <@bz> Maybe the issue is mostly a nonissue for us specifically
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# [19:41] <@bz> http://www.internetnews.com/government/article.php/3839831/Mozilla+Firefox+Cleared+of+US+Export+Rules.htm
# [19:42] <philipp64|laptop> bz: until October 2011 at Intel Labs.
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# [19:42] <philipp64|laptop> but that was some pretty heavy-duty on-core encryption engine stuff.
# [19:42] <@bz> http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/recent-changes-in-us-crypto-export-rules/
# [19:42] <@bz> Is Jan 2011
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# [19:43] <@bz> So it sounds like "mass market" encryption code and any other thing which can just be downloaded on the internet is not covered by the encryption export stuff
# [19:43] <@bz> if you're doing non-mass-market stuff, though, talk to your lawyer.
# [19:43] <philipp64|laptop> bz: what's the mime-type of that file? is it an executable?
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# [19:44] <@bz> <philipp64|laptop: file ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/certutil
# [19:44] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/certutil: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
# [19:44] <@bz> It might depend on the NSS library, though...
# [19:44] <philipp64|laptop> jdm: would these patches use a "const" for the PRNG key generation? :-)
# [19:44] <@bz> So you might want to stick it in your tbird .app/Contents/MacOS and run from there
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# [19:47] <@bsmedberg> glandium: here's the minor fixup patch I needed to make it compile: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2004047
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# [19:48] <glandium> bsmedberg: oh crap, something changed in breakpad :(
# [19:48] <glandium> bsmedberg: (that makes the fixer not work here)
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# [19:50] <@smaug> BenWa: is Gecko profiler not available at all for linux
# [19:50] <@bsmedberg> glandium: would it work if I compiled it against an older version of google-breakpad?
# [19:51] <@smaug> BenWa: AMO says "Not available for your platform"
# [19:51] <@smaug> and doesn't let me to install it
# [19:51] <glandium> bsmedberg: no, it's the minidump writer that changed
# [19:51] <@bsmedberg> oh, I see
# [19:51] <@bsmedberg> blech
# [19:51] <BenWa> smaug: You can install the pre-release but it's not fully supported in linux because there's some unresolved deadlock bugs
# [19:52] <@smaug> BenWa: well, vlad suggested to get just pseudostack stuff
# [19:52] <BenWa> smaug: Also this version of the extension is really old. It's been under AMO review for 2 weeks
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# [19:52] <BenWa> smaug: Use the pre-release link from here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
# [19:52] <@smaug> k
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# [19:52] <BenWa> or its' trivial to build your own by with git clone and ./bootstrap.sh
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# [19:54] <@smaug> BenWa: should "analyze" do something?
# [19:54] <@smaug> after start+stop
# [19:55] <BenWa> smaug: stopping clearing the data
# [19:55] <BenWa> clears*
# [19:55] <vlad> start then analyze
# [19:55] <vlad> (the UI is horrible :p )
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# [19:55] <@smaug> oh, stop actually doesn't stop
# [19:55] <@smaug> but clears
# [19:55] <@smaug> that is surprising
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# [19:55] <BenWa> well it's turns off the profiler totally and returns to the base state
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# [19:56] <BenWa> smaug: The profiler is meant to be left on. I never turn it off
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# [19:56] <@smaug> BenWa: so after analyze I should click stop ?
# [19:56] <BenWa> No, never click stop :)
# [19:56] <BenWa> leave it on and when the browser skips a beat you can chose to look at what happened
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# [19:57] <@smaug> vlad: http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/cleopatra/#
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# [19:58] <vlad> that didn't go as well as he wanted, I bet
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# [19:58] <vlad> smaug: you need to hit the 'upload to server' button on the left
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# [19:58] <vlad> and then copy the link there over
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# [19:59] <@smaug> oh
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# [20:00] <@smaug> can't see upload to server anywhere
# [20:00] <BenWa> bottom left
# [20:00] <@smaug> perhaps upload full profile
# [20:00] <BenWa> yes
# [20:00] <@smaug> http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=db15187203ff4a55920734f44d5df154e32d3779
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# [20:01] <@smaug> ok, that gives the same information as sysprof
# [20:01] <@smaug> about the same
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# [20:01] <@smaug> painting takes for some reason lots of tim
# [20:01] <@smaug> e
# [20:01] <BenWa> smaug: What's the problem you're seeing?
# [20:01] <BenWa> response time is up to 94ms which is great
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# [20:02] <@smaug> BenWa: Bug 822096
# [20:02] <@smaug> response time is like 1 second when scrolling http://www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/
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# [20:03] <BenWa> Right, for scrolling 94ms isn't smooth
# [20:03] <Mavericks> is the adopt function @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/widget/gtk2/nsDragService.cpp.html#l1496
# [20:03] <Mavericks> seen @ http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/xpcom/string/src/nsTSubstring.cpp.html#l423 ?
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# [20:03] <BenWa> smaug: Not smooth on here either
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# [20:03] <vlad> looking at the stack there it looks like refresh ticks aren't occuring often enough
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# [20:04] <vlad> in fact those gaps between the chunks of work look to be exactly 200ms, which is kind of weird
# [20:04] <BenWa> vlad: I don't think so. We're not spending time being idle
# [20:05] <BenWa> Isn't that just him not paning or changing direction?
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# [20:05] <vlad> I don't know, maybe?
# [20:05] <@smaug> I think so
# [20:05] <@smaug> I scrolled down and up
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# [20:05] <vlad> ah, zooming in on one of the chunks of activity shows the right ticks
# [20:05] <vlad> there's a tiny pause in between each one
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# [20:06] <vlad> each tick period seems to be around 40ms though
# [20:06] <vlad> which is not good
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# [20:07] <@smaug> it feels like painting is taking lots of time
# [20:07] <BenWa> Yes, those fill are very slow
# [20:07] <@smaug> so either we try to paint too often, or paint too slowly
# [20:07] <BenWa> It could be a case where OGL would help
# [20:07] <BenWa> but even then it's still not 60FPS on my machine
# [20:08] <@smaug> regression range is here https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822096#c5
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# [20:08] <tbsaunde> Mavericks: what about it?
# [20:08] <@smaug> do we have builds from m-i pushes?
# [20:09] <BenWa> smaug: We keep them for 2 weeks so we should hurry and find the m-i regression before they get deleted
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# [20:10] <BenWa> smaug: There's 200 changes, just a few tries could narrow down the range quite a bit
# [20:10] <mattwoodrow> smaug: Can you enable paint flashing please
# [20:10] <mattwoodrow> nglayout.debug.paint_flashing = true
# [20:10] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: I tried that yesterday
# [20:10] <@smaug> couldn't see anything odd there
# [20:10] <@smaug> let me retry
# [20:10] <mattwoodrow> does the whole screen flash, or just draw lines as you scroll?
# [20:10] <BenWa> mattwoodrow: Can you reproduce it locally? I can on mac, it scrolls at like 20 FPS
# [20:11] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: hey, now I see it
# [20:11] <BenWa> mattwoodrow: I get full screen invalidation on my end
# [20:11] <nemo> So. Ages ago I took these screenshots...
# [20:11] <@smaug> the whole page is repainted
# [20:11] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase128.xhtml
# [20:11] <nemo> At the time, linux rendered box-shadow + border-radius on the buttons correctly
# [20:11] <mattwoodrow> that would definitely explain slow scrolling :)
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# [20:11] <nemo> (the screenshots came from a hacks.mozilla.org article)
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# [20:12] <mattwoodrow> BenWa: I haven't tried, is it BasicLayers only?
# [20:12] <nemo> since then, the bugginess in the OSX and Windows screenshots has come to linux as well
# [20:12] <BenWa> mattwoodrow: I'm using OGL
# [20:12] <mattwoodrow> weird, there goes my first guess
# [20:12] <BenWa> mattwoodrow: and my local profile is spending 64% in gfx::DrawThebesLayer
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# [20:13] <mattwoodrow> BenWa: Yeah, full page repaints on scroll is always going to be drawing bound
# [20:13] <Mavericks> tbsaunde: trying to check if mimeFlavor on that line's initialized or somewhere nearby
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# [20:15] <@smaug> if it matters, I have Tungsten Graphics, Inc -- Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
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# [20:16] <mattwoodrow> ok, I see the full screen repaints on the that site too
# [20:16] <mattwoodrow> I'll debug this today
# [20:16] <nemo> hey. is this this thing where tabs repaint constantly every second or so w/ paint_flashing?
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# [20:17] <mattwoodrow> nope, I haven't seen that
# [20:17] <nemo> hm
# [20:17] <nemo> heh. I'm not seeing it anymore either
# [20:18] <nemo> actually now microsoft.com just continually flashes the seemingly static image of the surface
# [20:18] <nemo> a couple of weeks ago I was getting it even on about: tabs
# [20:18] <mattwoodrow> when you mouseover?
# [20:18] <nemo> the microsoft.com one I don't do anything
# [20:18] <nemo> just continually flashes
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# [20:19] <nemo> hm. oh. wait. I'm in stable this time
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# [20:19] <mattwoodrow> I only see a small square flashing continually
# [20:19] <nemo> theeere we go.
# [20:19] <nemo> yeah. is correct in nightly
# [20:20] <nemo> and the constantly repainting thing is gone too. yay.
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# [20:20] <mattwoodrow> cool
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# [20:20] <nemo> mattwoodrow: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723599#c3
# [20:21] <nemo> guess that's no longer accurate
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# [20:22] <nemo> mattwoodrow: now. what I do notice is loading microsoft.com is blank for the space of about 2 seconds before it suddenly appears
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# [20:22] <nemo> no idea if that's your fault or microsoft's :)
# [20:22] <nemo> 2012-12-14 - updating my nightly too
# [20:22] <nemo> hm. more like 4 or 5 seconds
# [20:22] <nemo> and still happening
# [20:23] <nemo> does not happen on any other random large site, like, oh, planet.mozilla.org
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# [20:24] <nemo> hm. more like 5 or 6 seconds, and does same on refresh. maybe some effed up XHR in background.
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# [20:24] <Mavericks> tbsaunde: finally convinced myself that it's initialized :)
# [20:24] <mattwoodrow> nemo: That's unlikely to be invalidation issues at least
# [20:24] <jfkthame> looks to me like they're doing something js-ish to hide the page until their webfonts have loaded
# [20:24] <nemo> 6 seconds
# [20:25] <nemo> jfkthame: lol - yes. certainly can't have the fonts shift appearance. that'd be horrible
# [20:25] <nemo> jfkthame: they should just set the text colour to transparent. oooh. maybe do a fade transition :) or. maybe not do that at all
# [20:26] <nemo> jfkthame: you'd think the web font would be cached tho. refresh shouldn't impact it. maybe their js-ish is broken :)
# [20:26] <jwir3> hmmm... does anyone have any idea why my onclick handler isn't running for this testcase: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2004109
# [20:26] <jwir3> (the onclick handler being do_focusOffsetFromPoint())
# [20:26] <jfkthame> nemo: dunno… interestingly, if you try the en-gb page instead of en-us, it doesn't have the same thing
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# [20:27] <nemo> yay for …
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# [20:30] <jfkthame> nemo: hmm, i'm not sure it is webfont-related, actually - i think the WT prefix in their code is for WebTrends - maybe it's meant to wait till all assets (images etc) are ready, so that everything appears at once
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# [20:31] <nemo> jfkthame: still lame :)
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# [20:31] <nemo> happens even if you hit back Oo
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# [20:32] <nemo> jfkthame: you wonder how something like this could have gotten through testing at the world's largest software company before deployment to their homepage
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# [20:32] <jfkthame> i agree it's lame, though it only seems to pause for a second or so here - do you have a really slow/long-latency connection?
# [20:33] <jfkthame> or a slow computer? :)
# [20:33] <nemo> jfkthame: connection here is supposed to be insanely good. but. the frontpage might be loading enough connections to overwhelm their crappy deep packet inspecting websense etc nonsense
# [20:33] <nemo> jfkthame: I fired it up on my windows machine in IE8, was also slow. also had a broken script error :D
# [20:34] <jfkthame> ha
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# [20:34] <nemo> http://ots.optimize.webtrends.com/ots/lib/3.2/wt_lib.js expected } line 7 char 34790
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# [20:36] <nemo> ok. much faster on the comcast connection
# [20:36] <nemo> eh. still silly of 'em :-p
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# [20:42] <gregglind> are there good ways of simulating bad network connections, and seeing how fx feels over them?
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# [20:42] <gregglind> also, si there an easy way to spin up unbranded (or false branded fx)?
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# [20:42] <gregglind> in particular for windows.
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# [20:43] <nemo> Since you guys are on the paint flashing front.
# [20:43] <nemo> Notice what happens on http://christianheilmann.com/2012/12/17/on-senchas-fastbook-html5-tech-demo/
# [20:43] <nemo> if you hover over the right menu?
# [20:44] <nemo> as the menu transforms the entire page text continually flashes as well as all text in the sidebar
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# [20:51] <KWierso|Home> gregglind: setting up a proxy or something would probably let you do that?
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# [20:57] <seth> are the hash tables listed at |https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_hashtable_guide| the ones i should be using in new code?
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# [20:59] <BenWa> I got 30 mins build time for windows with a decent machine. Is that a good build time for windows or is there something wrong
# [20:59] <seth> also, shouldn't template metaprogramming pick the right one out of those 5 choices for me? =\
# [20:59] <Waldo> BenWa: sounds ballparkish
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> BenWa, clobber?
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# [21:00] <Waldo> seth: we were not big on template metaprogramming historically, because compilers were old and busted
# [21:00] <BenWa> Ms2ger: yes
# [21:00] <BenWa> Waldo: ok, thanks
# [21:00] <seth> Waldo: yeah, i figured that was the answer, just wanted to grumble =)
# [21:00] <Waldo> seth: compilers are not old and busted now, only new and busted, so we've started using it
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> That's less than half of what I get, so... :)
# [21:00] <BenWa> Ms2ger: One hour? How do you get anything done :P
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> Don't clobber :)
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# [21:01] <BenWa> right lol
# [21:01] <seth> Waldo: if those ARE the currently recommended hash tables, do you think a bug to combine them and use metaprogramming to pick the right one would be well received?
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# [21:02] <Waldo> seth: at some point I'd like to see us fix up js/public/HashTable.h and move it into mfbt/, as the best-received thing
# [21:02] <tbsaunde> seth: I'd be skeptical you could make it work, and I think I'd like to support both strong and weak refs, but in theory sure
# [21:02] <Ms2ger> Waldo, and pass JSContexts everywhere? :)
# [21:02] <Waldo> seth: there are some issues with just doing that, tho, related to template explosion and stuff
# [21:02] <Waldo> Ms2ger: js/HashTable.h doesn't actually use JSContext directly, as I recall
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# [21:03] <Waldo> Ms2ger: there's an AllocPolicy parameter which controls JSContext usage, I think
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> Waldo, oh, that could be it
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# [21:04] <seth> tbsaunde: heh, in the weird XPCOM world of Gecko it might be tricky indeed. but aren't strong and weak refs distinct types, anyway? that shouldn't be too bad
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# [21:04] <Waldo> also HashTable does a lot of inlining, and it might be worth making inline-ness conditioned on some template parameter or whatever
# [21:05] <abr> I know it's a bit of a long shot, but Is there any easy way, from gdb, to query a JS::Value object for its string representation?
# [21:05] <Ms2ger> seth, weak refs are strong refs to nsIWeakReference
# [21:05] <Waldo> abr: we added some gdb helpers recently to the JS shell but haven't exposed them to Gecko in general yet
# [21:05] <abr> Okay, thanks.
# [21:05] <Waldo> abr: you could ask in #jsapi what's necessary to determine them well-tested enough to enable everywhere
# [21:05] <tbsaunde> seth: well, they're different types in what the hash table stores, but I'd think .get() should return the same type for both
# [21:06] <Waldo> abr: and generally #jsapi's a better place to ask SpiderMonkey-ish questions, for future reference
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# [21:06] <Waldo> notwithstanding that there's considerable overlap with here :-)
# [21:06] <seth> Ms2ger: sounds like it's exposed in the type, then, although certainly more awkward because of that nesting
# [21:06] <abr> Cool. I didn't know it was there. :)
# [21:06] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I was actually thinking of nsIFoo*
# [21:06] <Ms2ger> Oh
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# [21:07] <@dolske> BenWa: 30 minutes for a Windows clobber sounds on the slow end (!summon gps?), istr my ~3 year old Windows box was doing ~20 minutes builds, but I've not timed it recently.
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# [21:08] <seth> tbsaunde: sounds achievable
# [21:08] <seth> hmm
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# [21:08] <BenWa> dolske: I've got a E21280 3.5 Ghz Xeon with 16GB of ram so 30 minutes does feel a bit slow for that hardware
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# [21:08] <@dolske> BenWa: are you using pymake / mach?
# [21:09] <BenWa> mach
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# [21:09] <BenWa> does it do the fast thing by default?
# [21:09] <@dolske> aiui it should
# [21:09] <@dolske> SSD?
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# [21:10] <BenWa> Not using it
# [21:10] <tbsaunde> seth: my suspicion is that if you don't do it nobody else will either
# [21:11] <seth> tbsaunde: not saying i won't do it, just saying i won't do it right this second =)
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# [21:11] <tbsaunde> but I'm ready to be proven wrong
# [21:11] <@dolske> BenWa: hmm, dunno.
# [21:11] <tbsaunde> sure
# [21:11] <BenWa> dolske: What mozconfig do you use?
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# [21:12] <BenWa> dolske: no debug, no optimize, enable profiling (frame pointers),
# [21:12] <@dolske> usually just a basic/minimal one. yeah, about that.
# [21:12] <BenWa> kk
# [21:12] <BenWa> ohh well
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# [21:15] <seth> tbsaunde, Ms2ger, Waldo: bug here -> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822778
# [21:15] <Waldo> worth a shot, certainly
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# [21:51] <espindola> When using nsITimer, do I have to manually keep a reference to it until it fires?
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# [21:53] <jdm> espindola: yes
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> espindola, don't think so
# [21:54] <espindola> :-)
# [21:54] <jdm> I'm right
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# [21:54] <@bz> Ms2ger: you're wrong
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# [21:54] <jdm> at least from JS
# [21:54] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsITimer.idl#117 says yes
# [21:54] <espindola> jdm, is that documented somewhere? It is fairly accessible foot gun..
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> bz, good :)
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# [21:54] <jdm> espindola: it's documented in a blog post, and maybe the wiki
# [21:54] <espindola> bent, thanks
# [21:55] <espindola> ok. I have a patch to write then. Thanks!
# [21:55] <@bz> Note that when working with JS you can have weird shit like this:
# [21:55] <@bz> var timer = createTimer();
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# [21:55] <@bz> timer.init(function() { /* do stuff */, 0, 0);
# [21:56] <@bz> And after that whether the timer fires depends on two things:
# [21:56] <@bz> (assuming the above is in a function, not at global scope)
# [21:56] <@bz> 1) GC timing
# [21:56] <@bz> 2) Exactly what "do stuff" does.
# [21:57] <espindola> ok, 1 I guessed from the restriction on having to keep the timer
# [21:57] <espindola> but 2?
# [21:57] <espindola> oh, if it causes a closure?
# [21:57] <@bz> It always causes a closure
# [21:57] <espindola> that includes the timer ...
# [21:57] <@bz> Right
# [21:57] <@bz> that's the part that depends on what the stuff is
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# [21:57] <@bz> if the js engine can prove the closure will never access the timer, it'll optimize it out of the closure..
# [21:58] <@bz> and if not, it'll be kept alive by the closure.
# [21:58] <@bz> Funtimes all around. ;)
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# [21:58] <tbsaunde> is there a reason we don't jsut replace nsITimer with sane ways of doingthis?
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# [21:59] <tbsaunde> (is there an advantage to nsITimer over setTimeout even?)
# [21:59] <@bz> There can be
# [21:59] <@bz> for example, you can use nsITimer in a component
# [21:59] <@bz> whereas setTimeout lives on Window
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# [21:59] <@bz> But yes, a saner API for JS would be nice. ;)
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# [22:01] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, forgot about jsms, is there a reason we can't stick it on there gobal though? don't we do that for other stuff?
# [22:01] <tbsaunde> oh, I guess you might need to implement it differently?
# [22:03] <bent> implementing setTimeout is hard
# [22:04] <avih> jrmuizel: my patch for bug 820167 crashed the andriod tests, i suspect the cause as FennecNativeDriver.java.in using StopFrameTimeRecording with only one (null) argument, while now it needs two (they're optional and can be used from JS without args, but maybe not from java). would you agree with assessment?
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# [22:04] <tbsaunde> bent: yeah, I guess its complicated, I have very little idea what I'm talking about here :p
# [22:04] <avih> jrmuizel: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/mobile/robocop/FennecNativeDriver.java.in#188
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# [22:05] <bent> tbsaunde, see nsGlobalWindow and WorkerPrivate for examples
# [22:05] <bent> both are complicated
# [22:05] <bent> and fragile
# [22:05] <avih> would someone be willing to push a try build for me while i wait for my commit access?
# [22:05] <jrmuizel> avih: I don't think that uses the DOMWIndowUtils StopFrameRecording
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# [22:06] <bent> tbsaunde, but no reason why we couldn't do it
# [22:06] <jrmuizel> avih: i believe it is calling http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/base/gfx/PanningPerfAPI.java#53
# [22:06] <avih> jrmuizel: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/mobile/robocop/FennecNativeDriver.java.in#99
# [22:06] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah, those are getting java methods
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# [22:07] <avih> jrmuizel: so if line 188 uses only one null arg (even if it's optional at the idl), wouldn't it need to use two nulls now? (as long as the other one is not used, which it currently isn't there)
# [22:08] <jrmuizel> avih: I have no reason to believe that code is related to yours
# [22:08] <jrmuizel> avih: like I said that's all just java
# [22:09] <jrmuizel> avih: that function takes no arguments: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/base/gfx/PanningPerfAPI.java#53
# [22:10] <avih> jrmuizel: and yet this passes one arg. you think it's not calling the modified StopFrameTimeRecording? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/mobile/robocop/FennecNativeDriver.java.in#188
# [22:11] <jrmuizel> avih: that's an argument to invoke http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/reflect/Method.html#invoke%28java.lang.Object,%20java.lang.Object...%29
# [22:11] <jrmuizel> avih: do you have any reason to believe that it's calling the C++ method?
# [22:12] <avih> jrmuizel: the name seems similar, vladan thought it is, and the patch crashes the android builds...
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# [22:12] <jrmuizel> avih: yeah, I don't think there's any relation
# [22:12] <jrmuizel> avih: that code was just modelled after the c++ code
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# [22:14] <avih> jrmuizel: i see. any ideas them what at the patch might have caused the crashes? I've already found one issue, using GetLayerManager() with a normal ptr rather than nsRefPtr, and my try build of that still crashes: GetLayetManager() to normal ptr: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=9864a836aa35 and as nsRefPtr: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e9b81c0683b1
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# [22:23] <espindola> on current js implementations, is function.bind still more efficient than "var self = this;" + closure?
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# [22:23] <sewardj> jlebar: ping
# [22:23] <jlebar> sewardj: ack
# [22:24] <sewardj> jlebar: did you check out all 3 errors reported in 817946 c 104? For sure there are 2 threads involved
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# [22:24] <sewardj> jlebar: jlebar or at least, > 1 thread involved
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# [22:25] <jlebar> sewardj: I didn't look at those other ones (for no good reason!), but those seem to be clearly happening on the IO thread.
# [22:25] <mjrosenb> sewardj: does V work on armv6?
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# [22:25] <sewardj> mjrosenb: er, no
# [22:25] <sewardj> mjrosenb: not as-is anyway
# [22:25] <jlebar> sewardj: At least, assuming that OnFileCanReadWithoutBlocking happens on the io thread....
# [22:25] <sewardj> jlebar: well .. but event_queue_insert is happening on "thread 1" whilst event_queu_remove is happening on thread 2
# [22:26] <sewardj> jlebar: is that expected?
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# [22:27] <jlebar> sewardj: How do the thread annotations work? I see "Thread 2"; is every other stack on "Thread 1"? And does "Thread 2" apply to both stacks, or just the one?
# [22:28] <sewardj> jlebar: yeah, that's a good question. the "where freed at" stacks don't specify the freeing thread, so we have to guess
# [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf51fc0485f0 - Yazen Ghannam - Bug 795378 - Clean up the high-quality scaler - Merge upstream changes to image_operations.cpp. r=joe
# [22:28] <jlebar> sewardj: So writes 1 and 3 happen on thread 1, and write 2 happens on "thread 2"?
# [22:29] <sewardj> jlebar: but the "Invalid read/write" stacks are respectively, T1, T2 and T1
# [22:29] <sewardj> y
# [22:29] <jlebar> wow. That's...not what I expected
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# [22:29] <sewardj> jlebar: so IIUC, event_queue_remove is running in both T1 and T2
# [22:29] <sewardj> jlebar: at least I'm pretty sure.
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# [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f2fcf38b2b56 - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 814839 - Disable WebGL depth textures on Mac NVIDIA - r=jgilbert,bjacob, a=abillings
# [22:30] <jlebar> sewardj: Indeed, you're saying that OnFileCanReadWithoutBlocking is happening on T1 and T2.
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# [22:30] <sewardj> jlebar: well, let me check I'm not telling you nonsense ..
# [22:30] <jlebar> :)
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# [22:31] <sewardj> jlebar: ah, i'm telling you nonsense :)
# [22:31] <bent> thank goodness
# [22:31] <sewardj> jlebar: it prints the "Thread #" only if it has changed since the last error it printed
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# [22:32] <jlebar> sewardj: So it's T1 T2 T2?
# [22:32] <sewardj> jlebar: I'm just trying to figure that out now. one mo ..
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# [22:32] <jlebar> (t1 t2 t2 would still be interesting!)
# [22:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94fa710130da - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 822464 - Upgrade clang to 170377 in the 3.2 branch. r=rail.
# [22:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4762bae12cba - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 822464 - Upgrade clang to 170377 in the 3.2 branch. r=rail.
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# [22:35] <sewardj> jlebar: current theory is: T2 T2 T2
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# [22:37] <sewardj> jlebar: .. after studying the un-redacted log, and the error printing code ..
# [22:37] <sewardj> jlebar: is T2 T2 T2 plausible / interesting?
# [22:37] <jlebar> sewardj: It's quite plausible.
# [22:37] <jlebar> sewardj: and it's interesting inasmuch as it rules out a race.
# [22:38] <sewardj> jlebar: indeedy
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# [22:38] <jlebar> sewardj: I'll look at those other stacks and see if I can figure out how we'd get those invalid writes.
# [22:38] <jlebar> given same-threadedness.
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# [22:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/921863b9cd28 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 819971 - Expose nsOfflineCacheUpdate::Cancel() via nsIOfflineCacheUpdate.idl; r=honzab
# [22:46] <NeilAway> "#204 top crasher"
# [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba2f2f5fb6b2 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 819974 - [Apps] Allow to cancel hosted app download; r=fabrice
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# [22:48] <nemo> http://featherweightmusings.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-to-win-benchmarks-and-influence.html#c4053607812500386597
# [22:48] <nemo> my results
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# [22:48] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: in the top 99%? ;)
# [22:48] <nemo> MS being evil? Whodathunk? :)
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# [22:50] <@bz> Hmm
# [22:50] <nemo> hm? :)
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# [22:51] <@bz> In python, if I have a list x
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# [22:51] <@bz> and I want to see if it contains items which match some condition cond
# [22:51] <@bz> is there a better way than len([y for y in x if cond(y)]) ?
# [22:51] <@bz> In particular, I don't care to really walk through the whole list, if I find something that matches....
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# [22:52] <@bz> Hm
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# [22:52] <@bz> I guess any(cond(y) for y in x) might work
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# [22:59] <rstrong> nthomas: saw it though I am in a meeting... the only thing I can think of is it needs a clobber so I clobbered macosx
# [22:59] <nthomas> k
# [22:59] <rstrong> nthomas: do you see anything in the push or the logs that could cause that?
# [23:00] <nthomas> not yet, still trying to wrap my head aroudn it
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# [23:03] <nthomas> rstrong: looks like they swapped to FirefoxNightly.app
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# [23:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62c52b199c9a - Jeff Walden - Bug 792108 - Add more truthiness tests to ensure strict equality isn't affected by JSCLASS_EMULATES_UNDEFINED, and that falsy objects don't compare equal unless they're
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# [23:08] <firebot> actually the same object. Just tests, they pass locally for me with the --tbpl driver option to do what Tinderbox does, r=sparky
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# [23:09] <nthomas> rstrong: probably that's because MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL is default in dep builds, and only set to nightly/aurora etc in nightlies
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# [23:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/254fe89b5c61 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. Paint notification can flush (via WillPaint), so re-check if the listener still exists after on puppet widget backend. r=cjones a=bajaj
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# [23:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b0d963f152be - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 805745. WillPaint notification can flush, so re-get the listener after it on GTK2 widget backend. r=karlt a=bajaj
# [23:14] <avih> jrmuizel: so, any ideas on causes for the crashes?
# [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3418ab85117b - Bas Schouten - Bug 814952 - Test: Add a reftest for non-scaled stroke. r=jrmuizel, a=bajaj
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# [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1114846b3791 - Jed Parsons - Bug 822450 - Create a syntheticEventsOk pref for marionette identity tests. r=benadida
# [23:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/746f31757355 - Ralph Giles - Bug 816994 - Skip Opus packets with invalid lengths. r=derf
# [23:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7d5ea538c57 - Raymond Lee - Bug 806736 - Port test_privbrowsing.html to the new per-tab PB APIs. r=jdm
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# [23:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef0483c37e00 - Monica Chew - Bug 810404 - Change breakpad license to Google BSD and point protobuf code to it. r=gerv
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# [23:19] <mjrosenb> dolske: you ever get to try the soda?
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# [23:20] <mjrosenb> Waldo: on what platform?
# [23:20] <mjrosenb> Waldo: I've used it on windows.
# [23:20] <Waldo> mjrosenb: linux64
# [23:20] <mjrosenb> eep.
# [23:21] <mjrosenb> one of the things that i've never liked about chrome/v8 is that they have their own crazy build system with its own inscruitable flags and options
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# [23:21] <@dolske> mjrosenb: indeed. it was.... indescribable.
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# [23:22] <RyanVM> tn: sorry we got a bit crossed up there. Can you push bug 805745 to aurora please?
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# [23:22] <Waldo> mjrosenb: well, the goal with our thing is to get rid of the current awfulness, and not have multi-minute no-op builds, and all, so I am more optimistic
# [23:22] <NeilAway> espindola: I don't suppose you got an answer to your question? my wild guess would be bind would be faster if you weren't closing over anything else anyway
# [23:22] <Waldo> also to have it be purely data-driven
# [23:22] <tn> RyanVM, sure thing, was planning to do it anyways. thanks for pushing that one patch to aurora
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# [23:24] <espindola> NeilAway, thanks. In any case, I assume using bind is the preferred style?
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# [23:24] <NeilAway> espindola: well, I prefer it :-)
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# [23:25] <espindola> oh well, I find "let self" easier to read. Will do a grep count next time I have to do one of them :-)
# [23:25] <NeilAway> !seen Pike
# [23:25] <firebot> pike was last seen 4 hours, 26 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying 'rs=me' in #elmo.
# [23:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b374ff0f529 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 819833 (part 3) - Fix fix_macosx_stack.py.
# [23:26] <mjrosenb> dolske: i take it that means you can't describe it as "good" or "bad"? :-p
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# [23:27] <@dolske> mjrosenb: it defies such classifications.
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# [23:27] <Waldo> schroedinger's pop
# [23:28] <seth> hehe wow
# [23:28] <seth> you don't know what flavor it is until you measure
# [23:28] <seth> this should be a real product
# [23:28] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I would really hope the chrome / v8 was also started with good intentions... :/
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# [23:32] <nemo> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4939716
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# [23:34] <NeilAway> smaug: fair enough, I'll give it a whirl
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# [23:36] <@khuey> https://blog.mozilla.org/labs/2011/03/game-on-spotlight-favimon/
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# [23:37] <@gavin> khuey: labs is not a person
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# [23:42] <jrmuizel> avih: no ideas
# [23:42] <avih> jrmuizel: k, thx.
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# [23:42] <jrmuizel> avih: I'd suggest trying to reproduce locally or reducing the patch using try
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# [23:58] <Jesse> ted: my last few nightly crashes have not shown up in about:crashes (even though i got a breakpad dialog and submitted) :(
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