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- # [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ef8548a7ab6 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 819819 (part 2) - Remove |name| from NS_MEMORY_REPORTER_MALLOC_SIZEOF_FUN. r=jlebar.
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- # [00:39] * @dolske wonders if there's a NS_BARREL_OF_MONKEYS. Because there should be.
- # [00:41] * KWierso|Home volunteers dolske to add it
- # [00:41] <KWierso|Home> :)
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- # [00:44] <@dolske> nah, I don't know how the memory reporters work.
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- # [00:45] <KWierso|Home> finding out how would probably be as fun as a barrel of monkeys ;)
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- # [01:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e5c46117dc5 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 825096 - Fix three clang warnings in accessible/. r=surkov.
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- # [02:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c0b48c967262 - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_15b6_BUILD1 for changeset FIREFOX_18_0b7_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
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- # [02:36] <ejpbruel> dolske: ping
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- # [02:43] <@dolske> ejpbruel: hi
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- # [03:11] <mjrosenb> dolske: you misspelt "pong"
- # [03:13] <@dolske> I don't consent to your reality.
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- # [03:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bb242f459ff - Jim Chen - Bug 824715 - Correctly calculate next page offset in custom linker; r=glandium
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- # [09:10] <glazou> bonjour
- # [09:10] <glazou> happy 2013 everyone !
- # [09:11] <KWierso|Home> "bonjour" already? :|
- # [09:11] <KWierso|Home> oh hey, midnight!
- # [09:11] <KWierso|Home> we meet again...
- # [09:11] <glazou> :)
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- # [09:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d78815cb0440 - Eric Chou - Bug 824895 - check if mConnection is ready before running SetProperty(), r=gyeh
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- # [10:06] <glazou> bbl
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- # [10:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cad275e5399f - Mike Hommey - Bug 822584 - Workaround in elfhack to accomodate for breakpad not handling the memory mapping induced by the elfhack/bionic linker combination. r=nfroyd
- # [10:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcfe68a7d9bc - Mike Hommey - Bug 822584 - Run elfhack on packaged binaries instead of built binaries. r=ted
- # [10:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e94fbb00fcd - Mike Hommey - Bug 822584 - Enable elfhack workaround for breakpad on b2g/gonk. r=ted
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- # [10:21] <Callek> edmorley: morning - happy new year
- # [10:21] <edmorley> Callek: Happy New Year to you too :-)
- # [10:22] <KWierso|Home> lets break all the things to ring in the new year properly!
- # [10:22] <Callek> edmorley: fwiw I'm not going tyo be around more than 2 more min, but wanted to make you aware, I did a reconf yesterday afternoon - the one bug I took that is of "omg you should know" incase stuff looks funny is 821728 but the m-i run of it looked fine after the reconf (surprisingly) moar data on https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering:Maintenance#Reconfigs_.2F_Deployments
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- # [10:24] <Ms2ger> Morning, Year, edmorley :)
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- # [10:26] <edmorley> Callek: ok, ta
- # [10:26] <edmorley> I imagine it will be a while before I work through the bugmail backlog anyway
- # [10:26] <Callek> np
- # [10:26] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
- # [10:26] <Callek> edmorley: exactly why I pointed it out to you
- # [10:27] <ewong> edmorley just added one more bugmail to your lot, ;P
- # [10:27] <Callek> edmorley: also without knowing for sure yet, I think my fix wasn't complete enough for the panda socket issue, so if you see more, I'll look into it for sure when I get up, probably with a new bug for said patch/fix once I find whats still wrong
- # [10:27] <Callek> :-)
- # [10:27] <Callek> anyway, good day [and night to me]
- # [10:28] <ewong> Callek surprised you're still up..
- # [10:28] <Callek> ewong: well I'm sorta still up, laying on my couch, about to be laying in my bed :-)
- # [10:29] * Callek waves
- # [10:29] <ewong> Callek 'gnight
- # [10:29] <ewong> er g'night rather
- # [10:29] <edmorley> Callek: g'night :-)
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- # [10:30] <purezen> Hey guys..!! I am a newbie to Firefox development.. and I have downloaded the recent mozilla-central repository.. and need headers for building the android client.. and preferably run it on my Nexus 7.. can anyone provide me with headers..?
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- # [10:33] <@roc> are you following instructions in the wiki?
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- # [10:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4f5631d7ce7 - Jason Smith - bug 814718 - Remove invalid gum tests for ended and played. r=roc
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- # [10:39] <ewong> Ms2ger I'm assuming you're the right person to review bug #825191?
- # [10:39] <Ms2ger> I was just looking at it :)
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- # [10:39] <ewong> heh
- # [10:42] <ewong> ahh my bad...
- # [10:46] <Ms2ger> Strictly speaking I'm not a peer, and I like giving mounir work :)
- # [10:46] <ewong> hah
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- # [14:15] <Standard8> glandium: would you say bug 780561 is unlikely to land before a merge next week?
- # [14:15] <glandium> Standard8: we'd like it to, but it depends on ted and gps
- # [14:16] <Standard8> ah right, ok
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- # [14:27] <avih> can ccache be used on windows to speed up compilation?
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- # [14:39] <edmorley> avih: it's not available for windows unfortunately
- # [14:39] <edmorley> pymake and disabling debug and symbols are your best bet at the moment
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- # [14:40] <avih> edmorley: i see, thanks. trying desperately to speed up compilation on windows. already using pymake. i need debug symbols though. tried moving everything to ramdrive -> no more than 5% speedup...
- # [14:41] <avih> and using smartmake when possible...
- # [14:41] <edmorley> what times are you getting?
- # [14:41] <avih> about 30 minutes for clobber, 9 minutes for a second immidiate ./mach build
- # [14:42] <edmorley> that sounds pretty normal tbh
- # [14:42] <edmorley> (unfortunately)
- # [14:42] <avih> yes, didn't say it's slow compared to others.. just that i'd prefer it's faster ;)
- # [14:43] <edmorley> gps & ahal are hopefully going to sort that for us in the coming months :-)
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- # [14:43] <avih> on linux i got about 25-30% speedup of clobber by using llvm. and also further full builds are much faster. but on windows...
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- # [14:47] <avih> will be looking forward for build speedups :) thanks.
- # [14:47] <edmorley> me too
- # [14:48] <avih> btw, one of the differences i see between linux and windows is that subjectively it seems to me that the linux builds utilize the cores better and starve them less than on windows
- # [14:48] <edmorley> avih: http://people.mozilla.org/~gszorc/build-system-brownbag/ is pretty interesting btw
- # [14:49] <avih> yeah, watched that slideshow some time ago :)
- # [14:49] <edmorley> :-)
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- # [14:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f493439be84 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 814718. Explicitly store the blocking state that we last delivered to MediaStreamListeners. r=jesup
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- # [14:51] <glandium> avih: using clang only made ~10% difference here
- # [14:51] <avih> glandium: hmm.. i compiled back to back... though never got back to gcc for further comparisons...
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- # [14:52] <avih> iirc it was about 32 minutes compared to about 24
- # [14:52] <glandium> ~18 vs ~20 here
- # [14:52] <avih> that's on a virtualbox vm though, might make some difference
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- # [14:53] <glandium> avih: ah, that would explain why your build times are not significantly better than on windows
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- # [14:54] <avih> glandium: 24 is still pretty decent for a vm ;) problem is, i'm testing specific windows stuff now...
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- # [14:55] <gabor> 20, 30... I wish I heard these numbers in a context of building it on windows :)
- # [14:55] <glandium> avih: yeah, but on the same hardware, a linux build with gcc is *much* faster than a pymake/msvc build
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- # [14:56] <avih> glandium: is it because gcc is fater than msvc? can it be used on windows then?
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- # [14:58] <glandium> avih: gcc is usually faster than msvc, and make on linux is significantly faster than pymake on windows
- # [14:58] <jesup> You lose multiple minutes IIRC in configure on windows (if it needs to run)
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- # [14:59] <avih> hmm...
- # [14:59] <glandium> jesup: that too
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- # [15:01] <purezen> roc: Yes.. seeing them..
- # [15:01] <avih> should there be an issue of building the same source tree from 2 systems? (e.g. sharing the source tree dir to linux, and building also from there?). are all the changes during a build only happen inside objdir?
- # [15:01] <purezen> tzimmermann: k. but it runs on the device from the app store..
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- # [15:04] <jesup> avih: IIRC .pyc files are still in the source dirs (open bug on that IIRC?)
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- # [15:08] <glandium> avih: apart from that, it works (i do that all the time)
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- # [15:48] <@bsmedberg> Can somebody who doesn't have security bug access please /msg me?
- # [15:53] <glandium> bsmedberg: just create a new bugzilla account :)
- # [15:53] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I guess I could grant myself editbugs just to test, but that seems a bit overkill
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- # [15:55] <capella> Can I help? I can't access those security bugzilla's if thats what you mean
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- # [16:00] <abr> I'm looking through some try logs, and just want to double check my interpretation of the information in the header. These logs start with "Rev3 Fedora 12x64 alder opt test" -- am I correct in interpreting that to mean that the try servers are running Fedora 12 (EOL 2010)?
- # [16:00] <edmorley> correct
- # [16:00] <abr> Okay, thank.s
- # [16:01] <abr> I'm trying to repro a bug here, and wanted to replicate the try servers as closely as possible -- I didn't want to install an old version of FC just to disover I misread something. :)
- # [16:01] <edmorley> ah :-)
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- # [16:06] <abr> edmorley -- follow up question, if you don't mind. It looks like FC12 is just about impossible to find on the Internet any more. Do you know whether we have a local copy mirrored somewhere on the Mozilla intranet I can grab?
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- # [16:07] <edmorley> abr: it may be easier to request releng lend you a slave; ask in #build perhaps? :-)
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- # [16:08] <abr> Thanks, but I'm remote -- and debugging this issue over the network would be quite painful.
- # [16:09] <Standard8> #build might also have a copy of FC 12 ;-)
- # [16:09] <abr> Ah, good point. Thanks.
- # [16:09] <sheppy> Good chance of it.
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- # [16:38] <avih> glandium: oh.
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- # [17:35] <edmorley> philor: how're you?
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- # [17:36] <philor> edmorley: not bad, you?
- # [17:36] <edmorley> philor: good thank you, finally got through the bugmail, planet posts, other mail
- # [17:36] <edmorley> philor: used to the j/k switch yet?
- # [17:36] <edmorley> still gets me every now and again
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- # [17:38] <edmorley> gerv: typo for the URL in your latest blog post
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- # [17:39] <philor> I do n/p, safer that way, nobody will decide they should be switched
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- # [17:39] <gerv> edmorley: Thanks! That's the URL to my local copy.
- # [17:39] <edmorley> ah
- # [17:39] <edmorley> :-)
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- # [17:43] <philor> well, n/p are actually backward, since the previous one is down the page, not up, but maybe nobody will notice that
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- # [17:44] <@smaug> gavin: thanks
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- # [17:48] <edmorley> philor: yeah true, I don't use those so hadn't noticed
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- # [17:52] <@gavin> what can I change to get all of stdout to display in logs on try?
- # [17:52] <@gavin> (NSPR log output in particular)
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- # [17:56] <edmorley> gavin: all stdout should be shown already (if using the view full log link), do you mean the NSPR logging environment prefs? eg NSPR_LOG_MODULES and NSPR_LOG_FILE (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/reference/html/prlog.html#25266)
- # [17:58] <@gavin> I thought I enabled the right NSPR logging but didn't see any output in the log
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- # [17:58] <@gavin> I asumed that there was ome log parser/cleaner that was getting in the way
- # [17:58] <@gavin> maybe I just screwed up my enabling of the logging
- # [17:58] <hub> dhylands: looks like I need to put the phone in recovery mode or something. :-/
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- # [18:00] <dhylands> hub: You can boot it up with power and Vol Up/Down (I can never remember which one) to put it in fastboot mode. I confirm by using "fastboot devices"
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- # [18:01] <hub> with vol down I get the clockwork recovery meny
- # [18:01] <hub> menbu
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- # [18:02] <hub> ok, I have it
- # [18:02] <edmorley> gavin: buildbot/tbpl only append to the log, they don't modify the existing content in any way
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- # [18:02] <@gavin> edmorley: I was thinking runtests.py & co
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- # [18:02] <hub> flash is working
- # [18:03] <edmorley> gavin: oh, 302 ted
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- # [18:04] <hub> dhylands: I got it flashed. thanks.
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- # [18:04] <hub> I wish the whole process was more streamlined like on iDevices
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- # [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58af88ca07be - Daniel Holbert - Bug 825627, part 1: Make nsUrlClassifierDBService.cpp's "gethashNoise" & "aCount" variables as unsigned, since counts are unsigned by definition. r=gcp
- # [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a17b673aeca - Daniel Holbert - Bug 825627, part 2: Convert known-to-be-nonnegative variables 'i' and 'idx' to be unsigned, in Classifier::ReadNoiseEntries(), to fix signed/unsigned comparison build
- # [18:07] <firebot> warnings. r=gcp
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- # [18:15] <jacek> is there any way I can avoid bug/review procedure for trivial changes like this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2034008 ? like tier-3-bustage (mingw in this case) followup?
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- # [18:18] <@bz> jacek: r=me, fwiw
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- # [18:19] <@khuey> jacek: you can just check that stuff in with no review
- # [18:19] <@khuey> nobody will have a problem with that
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- # [18:19] <@bz> jacek: but in general, for patches like this which are changing code also used by non-tier3 stuff
- # [18:19] * @bz is not sure
- # [18:19] <@bz> This one is obviously ok without review
- # [18:19] <@bz> because XP_WIN non-mingw stuff is case-insensitive
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- # [18:19] <@bz> But determining that is a review in itself. :(
- # [18:20] <@khuey> yeah
- # [18:20] <@gavin> no one will care if you don't break anything
- # [18:20] <@gavin> don't break anything :)
- # [18:21] <@khuey> indeed
- # [18:21] <dholbert> hrm. android bustage, from kats it looks like
- # [18:21] <dholbert> "error: `CPP' has changed since the previous run"
- # [18:21] <dholbert> ah, thanks edmorley
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- # [18:22] <jacek> bz, khuey, gavin: ok, that's what I hoped to hear, thanks. I just hate bothering you with reviews for such stuff
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- # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7e3e0d3118f - Jacek Caban - Bug 807678 - fixed mingw cross compilation on case-sensitive OSes
- # [18:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21d5fbda37b8 - Jacek Caban - Bug 823921 - Fixed content/media/wmf compilation on mingw r=khuey
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- # [18:33] <jesup> bz: ping
- # [18:33] <@bz> jesup: ack
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- # [18:34] <jesup> bz: So this PoisonWrite thing on Mac during shutdown... Turns out we're hitting it in the WebRTC stuff now. Any suggestions on how to avoid it? Or is there a way to fix or wallpaper over the error generation
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- # [18:35] <jesup> bz: bug 794178 and bug 811764
- # [18:37] <jesup> Is it just we need to stop our logging at some point in the shutdown process?
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- # [18:38] <jesup> bz: and is there any way to easily work back from the crash to the log causing the problem? The traceback isn't super-helpful: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2034026
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- # [18:39] <@bz> jesup: looking
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- # [18:39] <@bz> jesup: well, we should fix the underlying bug, no?
- # [18:40] <@bz> jesup: that being 794178 ?
- # [18:40] * @bz looks at stack
- # [18:40] <jesup> bz: would love that, but I didn't see any progress on that
- # [18:40] <@bz> Oh, interesting
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- # [18:40] <@bz> this is NOT the same stack as bug 794178
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- # [18:40] <jesup> ok
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- # [18:40] <@bz> Is MIO::DAL webrtc code?
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- # [18:41] <@bz> because the stack you pastebinned is an honest write during an atexit handler
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- # [18:41] <@bz> Which is precisely what this write poisoning stuff is meant to catch
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- # [18:41] <jesup> bz: no. MIO::DAL doesn't appear in our source database
- # [18:42] <@bz> hmm
- # [18:42] <@bz> AppleDALScreenInputDeviceNewPlugIn
- # [18:42] <@bz> So wait
- # [18:43] <@bz> 811764 is about the NSPR logging thing, right?
- # [18:43] <jesup> so the title says
- # [18:43] * @bz looks
- # [18:43] <@bz> so the bug I filed...
- # [18:43] <@bz> is about the fact that if we're doing NSPR logging we end up writing NS_WARNING stuff to disk
- # [18:43] <jesup> the recent crash in the pastebin is from a test run ekr has in the debugger right now
- # [18:43] <@bz> which of course is not happy
- # [18:44] <ekr> It's actually not in the debugger any more....
- # [18:44] <ekr> but I can put it back in
- # [18:44] <@bz> Which is fixable by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794178#c7
- # [18:44] <@bz> But none of the stacks in 811764 look like that
- # [18:44] <ekr> yep
- # [18:44] <@bz> The stack in comment 0 seems to be an actual log call
- # [18:45] <@bz> being done during shutdown
- # [18:45] <@bz> Part of a send, in fact?
- # [18:45] <ekr> that should be gone now, I think
- # [18:45] <@bz> ok
- # [18:45] <@bz> So what's left is the pastebin?
- # [18:45] <ekr> yeah, I think
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- # [18:45] <ekr> and that seems to be apple code!
- # [18:45] <@bz> mmmhm
- # [18:46] <@bz> So how about this?
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- # [18:46] <@bz> Ask Rafael why we have this poisoning?
- # [18:46] <jesup> 811764's stack was from when we weren't shutting down the RTCP send before shutdown; htat's solved
- # [18:46] <@bz> Because if stuff is writing from atexit handlers...
- # [18:46] <@bz> Then that's ok if the goal is to just shutdown via exit()
- # [18:46] <@bz> because clearly that will still call atexit handlers
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- # [18:46] <jesup> Rafael?
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- # [18:47] <@bz> I _think_ the goal of the write poisoning was to catch writes that shutting down via exit() would fail to perform
- # [18:47] <@bz> jesup: assignee on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732173
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- # [18:48] <jesup> k
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- # [18:54] <jesup> bz: thanks
- # [18:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1004c01bb817 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 825692. Avoid layerizing scrollframes that don't have scrollbar boxes. r=roc
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- # [19:00] <@smaug> ted: ping
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- # [19:00] <@smaug> jesup: sorry it was very late when you commented still something about gc
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- # [19:01] <@ted> smaug: pong
- # [19:01] <@smaug> jesup: but in general you need to get gc and cc to in order to clear refs
- # [19:02] <@smaug> ted: about xpcom/glue compilation. nsThreadUtils has some #ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API
- # [19:02] <@smaug> do we compile that file once for libxul and once for libxpcomglue ?
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- # [19:02] <@smaug> (or whatever the latter is called)
- # [19:02] <@smaug> and MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API is defined only when compiled for libxul
- # [19:03] <@smaug> ?
- # [19:03] <@bz> jesup: no problem
- # [19:03] <@ted> smaug: internal_api means you're being linked into libxul, yes
- # [19:03] <@ted> we can compile that file multiple times
- # [19:03] <@ted> it's pretty horrible
- # [19:03] <@ted> xpcom/glue/{nomozalloc,standalone,staticruntime}
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- # [19:05] <@smaug> ted: things in xpcom/build are compiled always with INTERNAL_API ?
- # [19:05] <@smaug> xpcom/build/Makefile.in has MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API = 1
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- # [19:05] <@ted> yeah
- # [19:06] <@smaug> k
- # [19:06] <@smaug> good
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- # [19:06] <@ted> xpcom/build just also pulls some sources in from xpcom/glue
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- # [19:06] <@smaug> and need to clean up stuff during shutdown
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- # [19:18] <jesup> smaug: So, reviving our conversation: if we have a HW resource tied to a mediastream visible at the JS level (returned by getUserMedia), and the JS drops all references to it (and clears out all refs in media elements), is there *any* way for us to release the HW resource before GC/CC? If they call Stop(), we know to stop the camera, but we want the camera light to remain on even if the...
- # [19:18] <jesup> ...stream isn't currently attached to a media element. Chrome turns it off as unless it's attached to an media object, but this creates privacy risks
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- # [19:18] <@smaug> jesup: well, js doesn't really drop references before gc
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- # [19:20] <jesup> right.
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- # [19:20] <jesup> which was why I was asking if there was any way to know... And maybe there isn't
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- # [19:21] <@smaug> I can't think of any reliable way
- # [19:21] <jesup> ok
- # [19:21] <@smaug> especially once stream is wrappercached
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- # [19:21] <@smaug> and may keep expandos alive
- # [19:22] <@smaug> so gc/cc will be certainly needed
- # [19:22] <@bz> Ooh
- # [19:22] <@bz> try chooser shows queue lengths
- # [19:22] <@bz> _Awesome_
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- # [19:22] <jesup> Yeah. I don't need it to go away, just want to know if we can safely release HW.
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- # [19:23] <@smaug> how is that different?
- # [19:23] <@smaug> you shouldn't release hw if someone might still use the stream
- # [19:23] <jesup> Too bad I can't say "please GC this object now" :-)
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- # [19:24] <jesup> Well, the point was to find out if that's possible or not, and it seems like "not".
- # [19:24] <@smaug> you can say "run GC and CC soon"
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- # [19:24] <jesup> that would be better than nothing
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- # [19:27] <jesup> My problem is I don't want an app to be able to sit on a stream that the user gave permission to, and then make it live again an indeterminate time in the future with the user having no idea that it might do so. Starting capture again may cause HW lights (though not for mics), and would cause us to add it to the dropdown with active streams, but this may not get noticed, or be so fast the...
- # [19:27] <jesup> ...user never gets to see anything.
- # [19:28] <jesup> So we leave capture live until the stream dies - but that brings in the "when does it get GC'd" issue here. So perhaps "run GC/CC soon" is the best possible answer
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- # [19:36] <sheppy> What are the ESR versions of Firefox? 10 and 17?
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- # [19:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ace356855be2 - Wes Johnston - Bug 817921 - Allow webapps to create sub activities. r=blassey
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- # [19:36] <Waldo> sheppy: yes, although 10 is going the way of the dodo in a week, I believe
- # [19:36] <@smaug> sheppy: right
- # [19:37] <sheppy> Waldo: Yeah, but for docs purposes it's relevant. We've no documentation on MDN at all yet that mentions the existence of ESR. :(
- # [19:37] <sheppy> Been too busy to deal with it.
- # [19:37] <Waldo> heh
- # [19:37] <sheppy> I'm writing up the SOW for a contract to bring someone in to get the Firefox docs up to date and want to be sure ESR is covered.
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- # [19:38] <Waldo> note that once ESR10 is dead, we won't be providing security updates for it, so it will quickly become vulnerable to attacks and its use should be strongly discouraged
- # [19:38] <sheppy> Yep
- # [19:38] <Waldo> so documenting it seems not-helpful, given that
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- # [19:44] <gfritzsche> Waldo: i thought ESR10 overlaps with ESR17 for 2 cycles... i.e. will still be around for one cycle
- # [19:44] <Waldo> erm
- # [19:44] <Waldo> you might be right!
- # [19:44] <Waldo> but I thought we were all gung-ho about esr10 dying rsn, so I thought that was next Tuesday
- # [19:44] <gfritzsche> yeah, 2 cycle overlap: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
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- # [19:45] <Waldo> hm, well
- # [19:45] <gfritzsche> right, it seems like esr10 is everyones favorite ;)
- # [19:45] <Waldo> so that says the esr10 happening in a week is the last one
- # [19:45] <Waldo> which is what I was saying, sort of, ish :-)
- # [19:46] <Waldo> clear as mud!
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- # [19:46] <tanvi1> smaug, bz - I'm very stuck on bug 822367 and need some advice on how to proceed
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- # [19:46] <@smaug> tanvi: I'll look at it a bit later
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- # [19:46] <@smaug> just in middle of something else
- # [19:46] <tanvi> smaug - thanks!
- # [19:47] <@smaug> (and reloading is tricky case)
- # [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d41cea7a8ce - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 821412: Part 1 - Marionette changes to support automated B2G update tests. r=jgriffin
- # [19:47] <tanvi> yeah, i'm not sure setting a flag on the loadgroup is going to work, but we'll see
- # [19:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80ab5bc94810 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 821412: Part 3 - Initial B2G update tests and smoketests. r=bbondy
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- # [19:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca03917bee50 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 821412: Part 2 - Initial Marionette frontend for B2G update tests. r=jgriffin
- # [19:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/067e0c9943e3 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 821412: Part 4 - Initial automation frontend for B2G update smoketests. r=jgriffin
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- # [19:49] <gfritzsche> Waldo: right, support cycle versus last actual release :)
- # [19:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21c0b3fbad22 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 818569 - Stop B2G before updating gecko, r=ahal
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- # [19:55] <Optimizer> how to get reference to chrome window from xul iframe ?
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- # [20:17] <Optimizer> contentWindow
- # [20:17] <Optimizer> works, though name suggests its content
- # [20:17] <Optimizer> although in xul, I guess content is chrome ? :S
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- # [20:27] <timeless> is anyone here familiar w/ the gecko string classes?
- # [20:27] <timeless> i'm wondering if nsCString happens to be null pointer friendly...
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- # [20:28] <@smaug> timeless: null pointer where+
- # [20:28] <@smaug> s/+/?/
- # [20:28] <timeless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2034195
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- # [20:29] <timeless> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp?mark=3197,3199,3201#3194
- # [20:29] <timeless> i think
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- # [20:29] <Mossop> jimm: How often are the metro builds updated with m-c?
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- # [20:30] <jimm> whenever somebody feels like doing an mc->elm merge. once a week usually.
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- # [20:30] <timeless> smaug: roughly does nsCString x; x.get() return 0 ?
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- # [20:31] <timeless> smaug: oh, goody, you've touched that section of code :)
- # [20:31] <Optimizer> jimm: I tried to isntall the elm build on win 8 yesterday, but the metro version never showed up :|
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- # [20:31] <@smaug> timeless: .get() should return ""
- # [20:32] <jimm> Optimizer: did you set firefox as the default for the device?
- # [20:32] <Optimizer> I did not have privileges for that
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- # [20:33] <Optimizer> I mean while installing it asked for admin rights, I denied as I did not have that, and then it installed pefectly fine
- # [20:33] <timeless> smaug: any idea why i'm crashing here w/ what seems like a strlen(0) ?
- # [20:33] <@smaug> timeless: do you have crash id?
- # [20:33] <timeless> kinda hard
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- # [20:33] <timeless> i crash as it tries to load about:crashes :(
- # [20:33] <jimm> Optimizer: there's only one browser in metro which is the default browser for the machine. so if you can't set that, you're stuck with whatever IT gave you.
- # [20:34] <jimm> Optimizer: did you get the set the browser as the default prompt when you opened firefox?
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- # [20:34] <timeless> i crash as it tries to load about:crashes :(
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- # [20:35] <@ehsan> gavin: about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810208#c6, did you want me to do that, or were you just asking my opinion?
- # [20:35] <@smaug> timeless: :/ really odd
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- # [20:36] <Optimizer> jimm: no
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- # [20:37] <jimm> Optimizer: I'd suggest trying options -> advanced -> "make nightly the default browser" button, see if that works.
- # [20:37] <@ted> timeless: up one level from the profile dir, Crash Reports/submitted
- # [20:37] <Optimizer> jimm: will do
- # [20:37] <Optimizer> is that the same reason that I have lost the metro IE version, as my default is Firefox ?
- # [20:38] <timeless> yeah, got it
- # [20:38] <timeless> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/007516e4-42ba-45cf-8bfe-a66042130102
- # [20:39] <timeless> smaug: that line matches up to my windbg based analysis
- # [20:39] <jimm> Optimizer: if you lost metroie, my guess is metrofx is the default. are you sure there isn't a firefox tile in the start screen someplace? usually it shows up all the way over to the right.
- # [20:39] <Optimizer> nope, there is one, which opens the normal Firefox
- # [20:39] <jimm> light blue, looks like a schematic of the logo
- # [20:39] <jimm> hmm
- # [20:39] <Optimizer> note that Firefox is notmal firefox, and Nightly is the elm build
- # [20:39] <Optimizer> s/notmal/normal
- # [20:40] <jimm> oh, you lost metroie when you set release firefox as the default?
- # [20:40] <Optimizer> I am assuming by what you said
- # [20:40] <Optimizer> that only metro browser is the default one
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- # [20:42] <jimm> Optimizer: try setting Nightly as the default via options to see if you can get metrofx going.
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- # [20:43] <Optimizer> yup, will do tomorrow, do not have that machine
- # [20:43] <jimm> Optimizer: so I guess if you set a non-metro compat firefox as the default, you also lose metroie.
- # [20:43] <Optimizer> right now
- # [20:43] <jimm> cool
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- # [20:44] <@gavin> ehsan: I do think that would be nicer, yes, but could be convinced otherwise
- # [20:44] <Optimizer> its weird, as my many friends who installed win8 , likes the metro IE, but then they set chrome as default and later on wonder where metro ie went
- # [20:44] <@gavin> ehsan: maybe there is something I am missing
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- # [20:45] <@ehsan> gavin: well, the caller doesn't necessarily have an nsIDownload object at hand
- # [20:45] <@ehsan> so making that method accept one will be painful sometimes
- # [20:45] <@gavin> it can be optional
- # [20:45] <@ehsan> it is optional for sure
- # [20:45] <@gavin> the caller that you're changing does, right?
- # [20:46] <@ehsan> yeah, well this caller does
- # [20:46] <@ehsan> but I don't think we can assume that for all callers
- # [20:46] <@ehsan> in fact we have had a similar recent issue with an API which accepts an nsILoadContext
- # [20:46] <@ehsan> rather than a boolean
- # [20:46] <@ehsan> when we tried to call it at a point where we did not have a window...
- # [20:47] <@ehsan> gavin: this all being said, I don't have a very strong opinion on this, so if you still think nsIDownload args are better, I'll do that
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- # [20:48] <@gavin> I'm assuming that callers will only care to specify "privateness" of the download UI when they're operating on private downloads
- # [20:48] <@gavin> maybe that is not a good assumption
- # [20:48] <@ehsan> gavin: no, perhaps you just want to open up the private download manager
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- # [20:48] <@ehsan> to let the user do something, etc
- # [20:48] <@ehsan> in fact
- # [20:49] <@ehsan> if there are no downloads to show, you have no way of getting an nsIDownload
- # [20:49] <@ehsan> now I think _that_ is a good counter-argument :)
- # [20:50] <@gavin> I still think you should attempt to define what "private UI" means, if you're going to assume that it applies to everyone
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- # [20:50] <@ehsan> gavin: hmm, not sure what you mean by defining what private UI means
- # [20:50] <@ehsan> we don't define what the regular UI is, right?
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- # [20:52] <@smaug> timeless: hmm, crash address 0x163
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- # [20:52] <@smaug> but still, don't understand
- # [20:52] <@gavin> ehsan: exactly - the existing interface is completely agnostic to what the UI actually is (you can show it, that's all)
- # [20:52] <@smaug> if it was the get() which is causing problems, I'd be seeing crashes all the time
- # [20:52] <@gavin> now you're adding some special magic parameters related to "privateness", and it's not sure what that means in general
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- # [20:53] <@ehsan> gavin: all my new arg tries to do is to hint to the UI that it should only display the private downloads, if possible
- # [20:53] <@smaug> timeless: is this something new?
- # [20:53] <@ehsan> gavin: an implementation can just ignore that if it doesn't support it, for example
- # [20:53] <@smaug> timeless: mccr8 landed Bug 821371 recently
- # [20:54] <@gavin> right, so say that in the comment and explain what "private downloads" means
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- # [20:54] <@ehsan> gavin: ok will do. so what's the decision about the argument type?
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- # [20:55] <@gavin> ehsan: you can leave it as is I guess
- # [20:55] <@ehsan> gavin: ok cool
- # [20:55] <@ehsan> gavin: I'll attach a new patch addressing the comments then
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- # [21:01] <@smaug> timeless: hey, I can reproduce on windows
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- # [21:04] <@smaug> !seen mccr8
- # [21:04] <@killer> I don't know who mccr8 is.
- # [21:04] <firebot> mccr8 was last seen 1 day, 21 hours, 52 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying 'yeah, so, anything that has an assertion failure of !ccLockedOut will be fixed by 1e90b2848512. But it should only happen on my one push.' in #developers.
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- # [21:08] <timeless> smaug: oh, great!
- # [21:08] <timeless> i'm going back to not caring
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- # [21:10] <@smaug> khuey: ping
- # [21:10] <timeless> smaug: do you have enough of a build env to build w/ the obvious fix and see if it doesn't crash?
- # [21:10] <timeless> if so, can you land r=me? :)
- # [21:10] <@smaug> I don't have windows build end
- # [21:10] <@smaug> s/end/env/
- # [21:10] <timeless> grr
- # [21:10] <@smaug> which is why I'm pinging khuey
- # [21:11] <timeless> gavin / ted ?
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- # [21:11] <@ted> we have a try server..
- # [21:11] <@smaug> ted: requires one to set a pref and all
- # [21:11] <@smaug> this would be trivial to test
- # [21:11] <timeless> smaug: you can set prefs
- # [21:12] <timeless> just add them to the all.js or similar in the repo for try
- # [21:12] <@khuey> smaug: pong
- # [21:12] <@smaug> khuey: you're on windows?
- # [21:12] <@khuey> I am
- # [21:12] <@smaug> khuey: by any chance could you test something
- # [21:12] <@khuey> perhaps
- # [21:12] <@smaug> set javascript.options.mem.log true
- # [21:12] <@smaug> nightly seems to crash
- # [21:12] <timeless> khuey: use a profile you expect to crash :)
- # [21:13] <timeless> (or rather, at least one where you don't mind a crash)
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- # [21:13] <@khuey> I have it set to true in my nightly profile ...
- # [21:13] <@smaug> khuey: my guess is that http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/a812ef63de87/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#l3194 %llums should be %lums
- # [21:13] <timeless> smaug: oh!
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- # [21:13] <@smaug> timeless: that is my guess
- # [21:13] <timeless> we could technically try rewriting the in memory string to the call and see if it doesn't crash
- # [21:13] <timeless> if you're so adventurous
- # [21:13] <@khuey> though my nightly is from 12/26
- # [21:14] <@smaug> khuey: too old
- # [21:14] <timeless> lemme give it a shot
- # [21:14] * @khuey restarts
- # [21:15] * timeless goes off to play w/ .call strdup()
- # [21:15] <timeless> oh, brother
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- # [21:15] <timeless> can't use strdup, the format string is wide
- # [21:16] <@khuey> doesn't crash on 12/30
- # [21:16] * @khuey updates again
- # [21:16] <@smaug> khuey: Bug 821371 landed 01-01
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- # [21:18] <@khuey> smaug: yes, it crashes
- # [21:19] <@smaug> khuey: could you test if s/%llums/%lums/ helps?
- # [21:19] <@gavin> that line of code is a monstrosity
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- # [21:20] <@khuey> smaug: after lunch
- # [21:20] <@smaug> k
- # [21:20] <@smaug> thanks
- # [21:21] <@smaug> (still probably faster than posting test patch to try)
- # [21:21] <@khuey> depends on how lazy my lunch is :-P
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- # [21:28] <jesup> espindola: ping
- # [21:28] <@smaug> timeless: khuey|away: uploaded to try https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=01740f1c4a44
- # [21:29] <espindola> jesup: pong
- # [21:29] <timeless> smaug: i'm slowly writing an in memory string...
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- # [21:29] <jesup> espindola: PoisonWrites on mac....
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- # [21:30] <espindola> yes
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- # [21:31] <jesup> so, it appears we have mac code (framework stuff I'd guess) adding an onexit handler that triggers it. Apparently dealing with the camera hardware I believe
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- # [21:32] <espindola> :-(
- # [21:32] <espindola> do you know what it is writing?
- # [21:32] <jesup> here's the backtrace. No, Not really. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2034026
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- # [21:32] <espindola> best case we have to call some shutdown/clear handler
- # [21:33] <espindola> worst case that prevents exit 0
- # [21:33] * espindola looks
- # [21:33] <jesup> Aha, looks like it's updating the "last selected device" stuff at a guess
- # [21:33] <jesup> explains why it doesn't happen all the time
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- # [21:34] <espindola> jesup: do you know how to reproduce it?
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- # [21:34] <espindola> if it just that we might be able to ignore it
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- # [21:34] <jesup> ekr can reproduce it pretty easily on his mac
- # [21:35] <jesup> I *think* it's just that (might do the same for audio)
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- # [21:36] <timeless> smaug: so far, no crash
- # [21:36] <espindola> jesup: is there a bug?
- # [21:37] <jesup> I think we were trying to figure out if it was the same as bug 811764
- # [21:37] <jesup> so I think no; I can open one
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- # [21:37] <jesup> (it's not the same)
- # [21:37] <jesup> 811764 is fixed we believe
- # [21:37] <espindola> jesup: it is not 811764
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- # [21:37] <timeless> smaug: no crash!
- # [21:37] <espindola> what you have looks a lot more serious :-(
- # [21:38] <timeless> r=me (in memory tested only)
- # [21:38] <jesup> yes
- # [21:38] <jesup> right, and largely outside of our (webrtc's) control
- # [21:39] <jesup> Unless we write code to pull the handler out of onexit and run it "early" or some evil trick like that
- # [21:39] <jesup> can you say "fragile"?
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- # [21:40] <timeless> smaug: yeah, this is working fine
- # [21:40] <@smaug> timeless: lu?
- # [21:40] <timeless> i now have a browser which i can use (as long as every time i land in CycleCollectNow i step into it and clobber fmt with a safe one)
- # [21:41] <espindola> jesup: the call is from __cxa_finalize, so I assume it is someone using a destructor
- # [21:41] <espindola> so it would be really hard to avoid it being called
- # [21:41] <timeless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2034264
- # [21:42] <timeless> smaug: see the ?? fmt = line
- # [21:42] <jesup> espindola: Looking more closely; bz said onexit and I didn't check (sorry)
- # [21:42] <espindola> I think we would have to find that it is one of the "known calls to write" and ignore it
- # [21:42] <jesup> espindola: Ah, I see, a global object apparently
- # [21:42] <espindola> (assuming it is not actually writing something important)
- # [21:42] <espindola> yes
- # [21:42] <@smaug> timeless: so, %llums -> %lums
- # [21:43] <timeless> yep
- # [21:43] <@smaug> ok
- # [21:43] <timeless> hot patching is fun
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- # [21:43] <jesup> Well, it is something important likely (changes to default device I assume)
- # [21:43] <timeless> but it works :)
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- # [21:43] <espindola> jesup: if it is something I can reproduce on gdb that would be awesome
- # [21:44] <jesup> We can ignore it, but I suspect that will hurt the user experience
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- # [21:44] <jesup> espindola: yes, we can repro it in gdb
- # [21:44] <espindola> jesup: awesome. If you want I can debug it, but what I have done in the past is
- # [21:44] <espindola> get the fd number
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- # [21:45] <espindola> look in lsof what file is that
- # [21:45] <espindola> and in gdb what is in the buffer that is being written
- # [21:45] <espindola> and in this case find out what the file is and if we can get it to be written earlier
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- # [21:46] <timeless> espindola: out of curiosity, why do you care about writes after a certain point?
- # [21:47] <espindola> timeless: because we want to call _exit(0) early
- # [21:47] <espindola> and skip a lot of the time we take to shutdown
- # [21:47] <timeless> ah
- # [21:47] <espindola> all of this write poisoning work is to see if we can...
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- # [21:48] <espindola> jesup: I guess a less then ideal way to handle this would be to settle with exit instead of _exit
- # [21:48] <jesup> espindola: as soon as ekr is back on I'll have him check
- # [21:49] <espindola> and allow writes after main is done
- # [21:49] <espindola> jesup: thanks so much
- # [21:50] <jesup> If the object is out of our control, I'm not sure we'll be able to force it to write (destroy it)
- # [21:50] <timeless> jesup: if it responds to messages
- # [21:50] <timeless> you may be able to trick it into cooperating
- # [21:51] <timeless> espindola: in theory is it possible to hook the c++ library to trap / get the list of objects w/ destructors
- # [21:51] <jesup> Yup. We'll see. There may be an API to force it too
- # [21:51] <timeless> and then do something amusing to them before calling _exit()
- # [21:52] * timeless looks for someone who can help w/ css @font-face :(
- # [21:53] <espindola> timeless: I was thinking of calling TundraObjectsPublishedAndDied
- # [21:53] <espindola> sorry
- # [21:53] <espindola> __cxa_finalize
- # [21:53] <timeless> heh
- # [21:53] <espindola> but at that point it might be better to just call exit
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- # [21:54] <espindola> jesup: the best case is if this is a "if not saved save at exit"
- # [21:54] <espindola> and we can call a save it function
- # [21:54] <espindola> CACFPreferences::Synchronize might actually be the one
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- # [22:04] <timeless> smaug: fwiw, i've now modified my firefox instance to in memory patch over the fmt pointer
- # [22:04] <timeless> and i'm running firefox ... :)
- # [22:05] <@smaug> yup
- # [22:05] <timeless> it works
- # [22:05] <@smaug> I'm about to land the fix
- # [22:05] <timeless> r=me if you want to use it :)
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- # [22:05] <@smaug> the tryserver build will be ready quite soon, I hope
- # [22:06] <@smaug> so I could still test that one too localy
- # [22:06] <@smaug> locally
- # [22:06] <@smaug> (timeless must be on vacation )
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- # [22:06] <timeless> i'm actually trying to get work done at work
- # [22:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da905fbd3113 - Benoit Girard - Bug 825620 - Refactor plugin quirks on OSX to properly initialize values. r=smichaud
- # [22:06] <jhammel> timeless--
- # [22:06] <timeless> and the fact that firefox is crashing on launch is interfering with that
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- # [22:07] <timeless> jhammel: as penance, you can help me try to use @font-face :)
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- # [22:15] <Wes> timeless: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2034308
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- # [22:16] <jesup> espindola: can you join us in #media for a sec?
- # [22:16] <Matti> timeless: your bug is bug 826003
- # [22:16] <espindola> sure
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- # [22:17] <timeless> Matti: we have a different number for it
- # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ed517f540d1 - Karl Tomlinson - b=821749 remove unnecessary mTransientParent r=roc
- # [22:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a0204462838 - Karl Tomlinson - b=821749 remove mWindowGroup, handled by gtk_window_set_transient_for r=roc
- # [22:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54501cee764e - Karl Tomlinson - b=623380 destroy XtClient child window on unrealize r=stransky
- # [22:18] <timeless> Matti: 821371
- # [22:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa77c707befa - Karl Tomlinson - b=821749 remove code to give transient-for-none dialogs a separate ICCCM group leader r=roc
- # [22:18] <timeless> Matti: if you want to set a relation between cause and whatever
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- # [22:21] <glandium> ehsan: pong
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- # [22:21] <@khuey> smaug: so what did you want me to try?
- # [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8c3bd23a1567 - Doug Turner - Bug 813758 - Need additional security checks for the geolocation permission. r=sicking a=blocking-basecamp
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- # [22:22] <@ehsan> glandium: just wanted to let you know that you should land the build-system parts of bug 822017 whenever you're ready (and thanks for taking it on! :)
- # [22:22] <glandium> ehsan: you can land them if you want :)
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- # [22:23] <glandium> ehsan: just qimport the attachment
- # [22:23] <@ehsan> glandium: ted had some comments on the patch... did he not?
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- # [22:23] <glandium> ehsan: more of a general statement
- # [22:23] <glandium> ehsan: that we need something on the long term
- # [22:24] <@ehsan> oh ok
- # [22:24] <@ehsan> so I'll land your patch as is then
- # [22:24] <@ehsan> thanks!
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- # [22:24] <timeless> khuey: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=01740f1c4a44
- # [22:24] <@smaug> khuey: I'll test it
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- # [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eed2a6f24243 - Mike Hommey - Bug 822017 - Use less bad build rules in browser/app/profile/extensions; r=ted
- # [22:25] <@smaug> khuey: though, looks like tryserver isn't fast today
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- # [22:34] <seth> is "CLOSED TREE" a string that some utility is watching for?
- # [22:34] <edmorley> yeah, the hg closure hook
- # [22:34] <seth> or is it just in caps to express anger and disbelief?
- # [22:34] <jhammel> both ;)
- # [22:34] <seth> hehe i see
- # [22:35] <edmorley> https://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom/hghooks/file/73339c36fc51/mozhghooks/treeclosure.py#l24
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- # [22:36] <edmorley> ehsan: not having much luck today... :-)
- # [22:36] <@ehsan> edmorley: what did I do?
- # [22:37] <edmorley> the last two backouts
- # [22:37] <@ehsan> oh did I break everything?
- # [22:37] <@ehsan> yay for my first check-in in 2013!
- # [22:37] <edmorley> hehe :-)
- # [22:37] <@ehsan> edmorley: yeah sorry that's totally my fault :(
- # [22:38] <edmorley> that's ok :-)
- # [22:38] <jwir3> If I'm using the following function: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/core/nsIDOMDocument.idl#381
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- # [22:38] <jwir3> do I define the final return value as nsCOMPtr<nsISupports>?
- # [22:39] <timeless> jwir3: already_AddRefed<> ?
- # [22:39] <timeless> oh
- # [22:39] <timeless> no
- # [22:39] <jwir3> timeless: well, I think I need to use getter_addRefs<>
- # [22:39] <edmorley> ehsan: if I could leave you to star them with the backouts that would be good :-) (the rest of my dinner beckons)
- # [22:39] <Ms2ger> jwir3, outparam
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- # [22:39] <timeless> just **nsISupports
- # [22:39] <timeless> jwir3: gr
- # [22:39] <timeless> are you calling or implementing?
- # [22:39] <jwir3> calling
- # [22:39] <@ehsan> edmorley: ok will do
- # [22:39] <edmorley> ta
- # [22:39] <timeless> nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> getmething;
- # [22:39] <jwir3> ok
- # [22:40] <Ms2ger> jwir3, are you implementing the webidl signature?
- # [22:40] <jwir3> Ms2ger: I am, but this is separate
- # [22:40] <timeless> foo->CaretPositionFromPoint(0,0, getter_AddRefs(getmething))
- # [22:40] <Ms2ger> jwir3, because there, you want to call the other way around :)
- # [22:40] <jwir3> timeless: Then I'll have to QI to get the nsDOMCaretPosition (in order to use its member functions)?
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- # [22:41] <timeless> you don't QI to nsXXX
- # [22:41] <timeless> only nsIXXX
- # [22:41] <jwir3> hm
- # [22:41] <timeless> but ignoring that technicality, sure
- # [22:41] <Ms2ger> jwir3, QI to nsIDocument, call the webidl signature :)
- # [22:41] <jwir3> timeless: So, I guess what I'm asking is then since I have nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> x, how do I call, e.g. x->Offset()
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- # [22:41] <Ms2ger> jwir3, static_cast
- # [22:42] <jhammel> http://memegenerator.net/instance/32805069
- # [22:42] <timeless> you don't
- # [22:42] <timeless> that class construct is broken
- # [22:42] <timeless> at least, you don't publicly
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- # [22:42] <timeless> what are you doing and is it possible that a normal non you entity could want to do the same thing?
- # [22:43] <jwir3> Ms2ger: So, nsDOMCaretPosition* cp = static_cast<nsDOMCaretPosition*>(x)?
- # [22:43] <Ms2ger> timeless, if you're going to suggest adding an nsIDOMCaretPosition interface, no
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- # [22:43] <Ms2ger> nsDOMCaretPosition* cp = static_cast<nsDOMCaretPosition*>(getmething.get())
- # [22:43] <jwir3> ah, gotcha. ok.
- # [22:43] <timeless> Ms2ger: if i'm an external entity and have as much reason for wanting it as he does, then...
- # [22:43] <Ms2ger> jwir3, but really, you don't want to call this signature
- # [22:44] <jwir3> I don't?
- # [22:44] <timeless> jwir3: more or less, this class thing is evil and you should see if there's a better way to do what you want
- # [22:44] <Ms2ger> No
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- # [22:44] <Ms2ger> You want to call already_AddRefed<nsDOMCaretPosition> nsIDocument::CaretPositionFromPoint(float, float)
- # [22:44] <jwir3> timeless: I doubt there is a better way to do what I want. I just wrote the implementation for the nsDOMCaretPosition. ;)
- # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Which you need to implement first :)
- # [22:45] <edmorley> 7e0ffa0535cc needs backing out
- # [22:45] <jwir3> Ms2ger: Ok. I will implement that now, then. ;)
- # [22:45] <edmorley> for android startup crashes
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- # [22:45] <Ms2ger> I expect we'll be removing stuff from nsIDOMDocument in <1 year
- # [22:46] <timeless> jwir3: fwiw, the thing you just implemented should be moved to the already_AddRefed thing
- # [22:46] <timeless> with a shell to call it
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- # [22:47] <josh> I just checked in to a closed m-i tree accidentally, isn't there a hook to prevent that?
- # [22:47] <timeless> ... if there's really a need for it at all-- i'm somewhat skeptical about the nsISupports method given it's basically useless to everyone
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- # [22:47] <timeless> josh: m-c would have one
- # [22:47] <Ms2ger> timeless, except script
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- # [22:47] <timeless> but inbound in theory won't be merged into m-c until the tree opens
- # [22:47] <edmorley|away> josh: only closed in last 60s, might have just raced
- # [22:47] <timeless> it's more or less a queue
- # [22:48] <Ms2ger> timeless, that's all it's there for, until we stop using nsIDOMDocument for script entirely
- # [22:48] <@gavin> timeless: inbound is also closed, and also has the hook
- # [22:48] <timeless> gavin: interesting
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- # [22:48] * timeless should go back to ignoring firefox
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- # [22:48] <josh> Want me to back out?
- # [22:49] <timeless> Ms2ger: how would script use it?
- # [22:49] <josh> I can also commit the backout asked for in the closed tree message
- # [22:49] <edmorley|away> josh: no it's ok, the current bustage is android-only
- # [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7a7bf00cd969 - Olli Pettay - Additional patch for Bug 821371 to fix crashes on windows, r=timeless
- # [22:49] * timeless personally wouldn't worry about that checkin
- # [22:49] <Ms2ger> var cp = document.caretPositionFromPoint(0, 0)
- # [22:49] <edmorley|away> josh: letter would be great, thank you
- # [22:49] <jwir3> Ms2ger: So, in Document.webidl, the signature for the caretPositionFromPoint function should be: CaretPosition? caretPositionFromPoint (float x, float y); ?
- # [22:49] <edmorley|away> latter
- # [22:49] <Ms2ger> jwir3, yes, and add [Throws] if you need to
- # [22:50] <jwir3> ok
- # [22:50] <timeless> Ms2ger: but there aren't any methods for it on the js side, right?
- # [22:50] <@khuey> timeless: smaug: did you test it?
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- # [22:50] <timeless> khuey: i ran w/ the change in memory
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- # [22:50] <Ms2ger> timeless, there is a webidl interface
- # [22:50] <@khuey> ah
- # [22:50] <@khuey> ok
- # [22:50] <@khuey> my build is super slow :-(
- # [22:50] <timeless> well, am running with
- # [22:51] <Ms2ger> timeless, so we don't go through xpconnect/xpcom at all to use it in script
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- # [22:51] <jwir3> Ms2ger: Ok, then is there an implementation side to adding it to Document.webidl?
- # [22:51] <@smaug> khuey: yes
- # [22:51] <@smaug> khuey: I tested the tryserver build
- # [22:51] <jwir3> Ms2ger: I.e. is there a pattern I can follow that shows my how to do this?
- # [22:51] <josh> edmorley|away: pushing the backout now
- # [22:51] <edmorley|away> thank you
- # [22:51] <Ms2ger> jwir3, everything that's in Document.webidl :)
- # [22:52] <Ms2ger> jwir3, implementations are on nsIDocument
- # [22:52] <jwir3> ok
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- # [22:52] <Ms2ger> jwir3, you want...
- # [22:52] <Ms2ger> already_AddRefed<nsDOMCaretPosition> nsIDocument::CaretPositionFromPoint(float aX, float aY, ErrorResult& aRv)
- # [22:52] <Ms2ger> If you do throw, that is
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- # [22:53] <jwir3> ok
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- # [22:54] * timeless wonders if dxr understands .webidl
- # [22:55] <Ms2ger> Probably not
- # [22:55] <Ms2ger> Then again, DXR appears to have only worsened lately
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- # [22:57] <NeilAway> cpeterson: so, what's the equivalent of MOZ_LL ?
- # [22:57] <NeilAway> cpeterson: sorry, I meant NS_LL
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- # [22:58] <cpeterson> NeilAway, MOZ_UTF16()
- # [22:58] <cpeterson> NeilAway, but currently no code is using char16_t or MOZ_UTF16() :)
- # [22:58] <NeilAway> cpeterson: no, that's NS_L
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- # [23:01] <cpeterson> NeilAway, oh, I see what you mean. Comparing Char16.h and nsLiteralString.h, I think MOZ_UTF16() is like NS_LL() without an equivalent NS_L() for string concatenation.
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- # [23:02] <cpeterson> NeilAway, compare https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsLiteralString.h#52 and https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/f0481ac71e08/mfbt/Char16.h#l31
- # [23:02] <NeilAway> cpeterson: yeah, I can never remember which is which
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- # [23:03] <NeilAway> cpeterson: we have one potential user in m-c (4 more in c-c): http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpcom/ds/nsStaticAtom.h#24
- # [23:04] <cpeterson> NeilAway, NS_L only seems to be used to implement NS_LL and NS_STATIC_ATOM_BUFFER, so the MOZ_UTF16 macro probably needs to act like NS_LL to be an adequate replacement.
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- # [23:09] <cpeterson> NeilAway, I can post a patch to update MOZ_UTF16(). Do you have any suggestions for a good name? I understand the legacy behind the names NS_L and NS_LL, but they aren't great names. <:) MOZ_UTF16_ or MOZ_UTF16_EXPAND?
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- # [23:44] <Waldo> so, right now HTMLElement is WebIDL, right? can anyone name another constructor that isn't for me? I need one of each
- # [23:45] <dholbert> Waldo, that's probably a question for bz
- # [23:45] <Waldo> yeah, that's what I was hoping to avoid right now :-)
- # [23:47] <mmc> hello, i could use some string advice. i have a c++ std::string, not necessarily null-terminated, which I would like to upload through nsIXMLHttpRequest->SendAsBinary
- # [23:47] <heycam> Waldo, I think many descendants of HTMLElement aren't converted yet
- # [23:47] <heycam> Waldo, HTMLDivElement for example
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- # [23:47] <mmc> this interface seems to take a DOMString, which I can't figure out how to instantiate correctly from reading https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide
- # [23:48] <@khuey> mmc: you want an nsString to pass in
- # [23:48] <heycam> Waldo, (that's despite HTMLDivElement.webidl existing in dom/webidl/ … but if the interface isn't in that directory it won't have been converted yet)
- # [23:48] <@khuey> mmc: nsDependentString may be of use here
- # [23:49] <whimboo> hm, anyone knows of a problem with debug builds taking 100% of cpu load on startup? It takes about 6 minutes for me to finally see the browser window
- # [23:50] <mmc> thanks khuey, I am getting this error: 0:38.54 /home/mchew/mozilla-central/toolkit/components/downloads/nsDownloadManager.cpp:3310:29: error: no matching function for call to ‘nsIXMLHttpRequest::SendAsBinary(nsDependentCString&)’
- # [23:50] <mmc> 0:38.54 /home/mchew/mozilla-central/toolkit/components/downloads/nsDownloadManager.cpp:3310:29: note: candidate is:
- # [23:50] <mmc> 0:38.54 ../../../dist/include/nsIXMLHttpRequest.h:363:14: note: virtual nsresult nsIXMLHttpRequest::SendAsBinary(const nsAString_internal&)
- # [23:50] <mmc> 0:38.54 ../../../dist/include/nsIXMLHttpRequest.h:363:14: note: no known conversion for argument 1 from ‘nsDependentCString’ to ‘const nsAString_internal&’
- # [23:50] <mmc> 0:38.73
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- # [23:50] <Waldo> mmc: there's some helper you need to convert your C string to a UTF-16 string; I don't remember it offhand
- # [23:51] <@khuey> NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16
- # [23:51] <mmc> hi waldo, there are NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16(serialized.c_str()); and friends
- # [23:51] <Waldo> yeah, that :-)
- # [23:51] <mmc> but i am getting a runtime error that the string is not utf8
- # [23:51] <Waldo> although I'm surprised c_str() is a method on any of our interfaces
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- # [23:52] <mmc> serialized is a std::string
- # [23:53] <Waldo> oh, you're third-party code? or are we actually starting to use std::string these days?
- # [23:53] <mmc> yeah, this std::string is the result of some third party code
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- # [23:55] <mmc> there doesn't seem to be any c code that calls xhr->Send with anything non-null
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- # [23:58] <mmc> so, this code: PR_LOG(prlog, PR_LOG_DEBUG, ("Sending request"));
- # [23:58] <mmc> rv = xhr->SendAsBinary(NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16(serialized.c_str()));
- # [23:58] * Mook_as would be more concerned first as to why you're getting not-utf8 in there
- # [23:59] <mmc> throws this error: 1959212864[7f0a73944480]: Sending request
- # [23:59] <mmc> 1959212864[7f0a73944480]: ###!!! ASSERTION: Not a UTF-8 string. This code should only be used for converting from known UTF-8 strings.: 'Error', file ../../../dist/include/nsUTF8Utils.h, line 421
- # [23:59] <mmc> 1959212864[7f0a73944480]: ###!!! ASSERTION: Not a UTF-8 string. This code should only be used for converting from known UTF-8 strings.: 'Error', file ../../dist/include/nsUTF8Utils.h, line 68
- # [23:59] <mmc> 1959212864[7f0a73944480]: ###!!! ASSERTION: Input wasn't UTF8 or incorrect length was calculated: 'Error', file /home/mchew/mozilla-central/xpcom/string/src/nsReadableUtils.cpp, line 209
- # [23:59] <mmc> 1959212864[7f0a73944480]: HttpBaseChannel::SetRequestHeader [this=7f0a53174800 header="Content-Length" value="0" merge=0]
- # [23:59] <mmc> 1959212864[7f0a73944480]: HttpBaseChannel::SetRequestHeader [this=7f0a53174800 header="Content-Type" value="application/octet-stream" merge=0]
- # [23:59] <mmc> Mook_as, I'm also concerned about that
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- # [23:59] <Mook_as> what _are_ you actually pushing in there?
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- # Session Close: Thu Jan 03 00:00:00 2013
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