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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jan 10 00:00:00 2013
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  4. # [00:01] <edmorley|away> mak: err unusual question! :-)
  5. # [00:01] <mak> edmorley|away: sorry, was thinking of a gift for your kindness :)
  6. # [00:02] <edmorley|away> mak: no gift necessary :-)
  7. # [00:02] <mak> the question was not intended to be "are you drunk?"
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  9. # [00:02] <mak> I should visit you in the London office, soon or later
  10. # [00:03] <edmorley|away> yeah :-)
  11. # [00:03] <edmorley|away> would be good to put a face to a name
  12. # [00:03] * mak wonders if we may stop 1 day there while traveling for the next work week
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  15. # [00:04] <mak> ah you can find photos from the previous mozilla events for such problem
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  17. # [00:04] <mak> but drinking beer together is another story
  18. # [00:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8dc06e275194 - David Zbarsky - Bug 827119: Convert SVGSVGElement to WebIDL r=bz
  19. # [00:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0f31a982bd4 - David Zbarsky - Bug 828169 - Don't use nsIDOMNode in editor transactions r=ehsan
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  21. # [00:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9297bf41ab4d - David Zbarsky - Bug 824218 - Remove unimplemented SVG features r=longsonr
  22. # [00:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50f4d34efeac - David Zbarsky - Bug 827119: Move SVGSVGElement to mozilla::dom r=bz
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  26. # [00:06] <edmorley|away> mak: indeed :-)
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  32. # [00:09] <espindola> BenWa: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1508275
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  35. # [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01b68b87ce26 - David Zbarsky - Fix a review comment for bug 827119, r=bz, DONTBUILD
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  95. # [00:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c05ccd690319 - Ed Morley - Backout a38692ea87ae (bug 827303) for xpcshell failures on a CLOSED TREE
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  105. # [00:54] <NeilAway> huh, nsCOMPtr<dom::Element> works?
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  111. # [00:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac6c200b012d - Mike Habicher - Bug 828502 - let nsMainThreadPtrHandle::get() handle nullptrs; r=bholley
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  116. # [01:01] <aja> akeybl: dunno if this is release-related, but there's an oddity on fxteam hourly now...help about is showing v20 tho it's now v21.
  117. # [01:02] <aja> akeybl: mentioning in case it's same situation aurora and beta had???
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  121. # [01:03] <jst> NeilAway: yeah, dom::Element has an IID
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  123. # [01:03] <jst> even though it is nowhere near an XPCOM interface
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  127. # [01:04] <edmorley|away> dzbarsky1: set but not used : https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18649049&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  128. # [01:04] <edmorley|away> dzbarsky1: tree closed, please may you land the followup
  129. # [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/901dbe9c1ff9 - Asaf Romano - Bug 828111 - Workaround multiple reflows issue and slow xbl attachment in the downloads view. r=mak
  130. # [01:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f60b87eed1ac - Marco Bonardo - Bug 828488 - Properly set the "active" attribute for session downloads.
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  132. # [01:05] <dzbarsky1> edmorley|away: ok, on it
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  136. # [01:06] <akeybl> aja: thanks for the heads up, aurora/beta had an issue with the update channel they were on (unrelated to version #)
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  138. # [01:07] <akeybl> so this must be unrelated
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  140. # [01:07] <akeybl> sounds like the fxteam branch may need to get a version bump? (cc gavin, since I don't usually mess with that branch)
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  143. # [01:08] <edmorley|away> aja: the last fxteam nightly was prior to the version bump
  144. # [01:08] <aja> akeybl: it does show right version on 1st-run "prerelease" page's url string
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  147. # [01:08] <aja> edmorley|away: hourly
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  149. # [01:09] <edmorley|away> aja: oh
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  151. # [01:09] <decoder> y u close tree when i want to land ._.
  152. # [01:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d871d0b90977 - David Zbarsky - fix bustage from Bug 828169 on a CLOSED TREE
  153. # [01:09] <edmorley|away> terrace needs a backout too, doing
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  155. # [01:10] <jhammel> edmorley|away: like yoda speak you today
  156. # [01:11] <philor> backing out Standard8 too you are?
  157. # [01:11] <edmorley|away> c05ccd690319
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  159. # [01:11] <philor> oh, yeah
  160. # [01:11] <edmorley|away> too many backouts
  161. # [01:11] <mak> edmorley|away: fyi I cherrypicked an inbound changeset and pushed it to central to ensure will make next nightly. the changesets are identical so there should be no problem on merge.
  162. # [01:11] <edmorley|away> hard to keep track :-)
  163. # [01:11] <edmorley|away> mak: ok :-)
  164. # [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3f554b113a0 - Ed Morley - Backout c3268996719e (bug 828607) for bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  165. # [01:12] <mak> and I'm looking at central, provided I won't fall asleep on the keyboard
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  169. # [01:13] <edmorley|away> the patch name in the just backed out bug 828607 is a nice touch :-)
  170. # [01:13] <mak> nice name indeed
  171. # [01:15] <edmorley|away> do people think https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18648984&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is plausible needed-clobber after the msvc sdk v8 change?
  172. # [01:15] <@gavin> aja, akeybl: that's odd, investingating
  173. # [01:15] <edmorley|away> gavin: also last desktop nightly was fri afaict
  174. # [01:15] <@gavin> edmorley|away: seems plausible
  175. # [01:16] <mak> edmorley|away: yes I was thinking the same (re: clobber)
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  177. # [01:19] <imelven> dbaron: ping
  178. # [01:19] <@dbaron> imelven, pong
  179. # [01:19] <imelven> dbaron: when you have time could you take another look at bug 763879 please ?
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  181. # [01:20] <@dbaron> imelven, yeah...hopefully this week
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  183. # [01:20] <philor> edmorley|away: I'm equally fond of blame-the-slave for it, since that's three builds after https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18639011&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
  184. # [01:20] <imelven> dbaron: that would be great, thank you !:)
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  186. # [01:20] <imelven> dbaron: im happy to chat more about it too if there's still concerns/questions
  187. # [01:21] <edmorley|away> philor: true
  188. # [01:21] <edmorley|away> philor: though now also https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18649721&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  237. # [01:47] <@smaug> jmaher|afk: ask #perf or #metrics
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  239. # [01:48] <jmaher|afk> smaug: thanks
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  242. # [01:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb7c082b477c - Mike Habicher - Bug 827503 - use nsMainThreadPtrHolders when passing XPCWrappedJSes around off main thread, r=bholley,jst a=blocking-basecamp+
  243. # [01:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c18a38ea211 - Mike Habicher - backing out bug 827841 patch to fix comment
  244. # [01:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5cc73ec69406 - Mike Habicher - Bug 827841 - don't proxy-release null pointers in nsMainThreadPtrHolder; r=jlebar
  245. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2cc6dee65b0 - Brian Hackett - Bug 828648 - Add system() function to JS shell, r=billm
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  251. # [01:58] <@gavin> aja: which build were you testing exactly?
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  257. # [02:00] <aja> gavin: hourly that contained the m-c merge....i can give you changeset in a sec
  258. # [02:00] <@gavin> aja: ftp link would be useful too...
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  269. # [02:08] <erikvold> does https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Supporting_per-window_private_browsing#Preventing_a_private_session_from_ending prevent the last private window from closing?
  270. # [02:09] <aja> gavin: oops....looks like i messed up. installed elm build instead of fxteam somehow??? changeset is an elm one anyway
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  279. # [02:14] <aja> gavin: so basically i did a version downgrade of my fxteam profile with an elm build, somehow
  280. # [02:14] <@gavin> that sounds odd!
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  282. # [02:15] <@gavin> did you just download the wrong build?
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  287. # [02:18] <aja> gavin: guess so....just double-checked my shortcuts to make sure they're pointing to correct profiles, and they do
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  305. # [02:27] <@bz> Nothing like an OS update being required... ;)
  306. # [02:27] <aja> gavin: file version said v20, so that had to be it. just re-downloaded and fxteam's fine this time
  307. # [02:28] <@gavin> ok
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  339. # [02:49] <jedp> sicking thank you for your comments and your r+ on the rename of navigator.id to navigator.mozId - i still feel uninformed about exactly when uuids need to be regenerated - it's when the interface changes, but not when the name of the interface changes?
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  341. # [02:50] <sicking> jedp: UUID needs to be changed whenever there's a binary changed of the API
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  343. # [02:50] <sicking> jedp: imagine someone took the mozilla-central from before your patch, and compiled a binary extension
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  345. # [02:51] <sicking> jedp: the goal of the UUID change is to ensure that that binary extension doesn't crash if the binary extension was run against a mozilla-central compiled after your change
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  347. # [02:51] <@roc> what's the best way to log data in B2G that could be seen in logs after a crash?
  348. # [02:51] <sicking> jedp: we are assuming that the extension checks that QI calls succeeds before using the casted pointer
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  350. # [02:52] <jedp> sicking that's the piece. ok. thank you for the explanation!
  351. # [02:52] <sicking> jedp: keep in mind that the extension might be implementing the interface, not just using it
  352. # [02:52] <sicking> jedp: so removing functions could cause a crash too
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  355. # [02:52] <jedp> sicking yes indeed
  356. # [02:53] <sicking> ok folks, too late here, i'm off to bed
  357. # [02:53] <jedp> sicking thanks again!
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  385. # [03:10] <@dbaron> roc, if it's just a process crash, presumably you're ok with stuff that comes from adb logcat?
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  387. # [03:10] <@roc> yeah, I got some help in #b2g thanks
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  410. # [03:26] <Waldo> anyone b2g-ish around to perhaps test the patch for bug 827816, wrt my concerns in comment 26? I r+'d it, but a little more thought has me thinking that I possibly shouldn't have, if we don't want to regress Russia while fixing the UK
  411. # [03:26] <decoder> i think my patch caused the purple on win debug
  412. # [03:26] <decoder> :(
  413. # [03:26] <Waldo> apparently the clock's pretty short for that change, so testing is needed about yesterday for it :-\
  414. # [03:28] * Waldo considers poking #b2g instead and/or as well
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  417. # [03:29] <@gavin> it's 3:30am in berlin, so not sure you'll get much response
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  419. # [03:29] <decoder> gavin: good time to work ;)
  420. # [03:30] <Matti> you have to find the telephone number of the bar :-)
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  424. # [03:32] <@bz> crap
  425. # [03:32] * @bz wonders how to actually get python 2.7 in a sane way
  426. # [03:33] <decoder> who's doing backout stuff right now on inbound?
  427. # [03:34] <@gavin> bz: macports/homebrew?
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  430. # [03:34] <Waldo> Think Different
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  438. # [03:39] <jgilbert> oh wow, python 2.7 now
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  441. # [03:43] <@bz> gavin: Fedora
  442. # [03:44] <@bz> gavin: fedora 12
  443. # [03:44] <@bz> gavin: yes, I know, the "proper" solution is an OS update
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  445. # [03:44] <@bz> gavin: That's a bit involved. ;)
  446. # [03:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b954323bf860 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 827523 (part 2) - DMD: Swap the diff order in test mode. r=jlebar.
  447. # [03:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9035cb5c0812 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 827523 (part 1) - DMD: Remove valloc() from the test. r=jlebar.
  448. # [03:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22d57a4edea5 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 827523 (part 3) - DMD: Add --max-frames and --max-records options. r=jlebar.
  449. # [03:45] * @bz just gives up on developing on Linux until he has time to deal with that mess.
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  455. # [03:48] <@gavin> bz: is installing a separate version from source difficult?
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  458. # [03:49] <@bz> gavin: of python?
  459. # [03:49] <@bz> gavin: Certainly from a source rpm, yes
  460. # [03:49] <@bz> gavin: it depends on the world
  461. # [03:49] <@bz> gavin: e.g. on valgrind. And db8
  462. # [03:49] <@bz> gavin: even just db8 is already bad, because tons of stuff depends on a specific version of libdb
  463. # [03:49] <@bz> gavin: I haven't looked yet into just compiling a guerilla non-rpm version
  464. # [03:50] <@gavin> that's what I meant
  465. # [03:50] <@gavin> no idea what depencies it has
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  467. # [03:51] <@bz> might not be too bad
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  470. # [03:51] <@bz> I can install all sorts of libs
  471. # [03:51] <decoder> can someone backout my patch?
  472. # [03:51] <@bz> just the fc12 versions. ;)
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  474. # [03:51] * @bz discovers cruft in his alias file
  475. # [03:51] <@bz> "patch -p0 < !* && cvslive up -A `getfilenames !:1` && cvslive diff -u `getfilenames !:1` | more"
  476. # [03:52] <@bz> ("cvslive" is itself an alias to hit cvs.m.o instead of the local cvs mirror that was $CVSROOT)
  477. # [03:52] <@bz> and getfilenames is an alias for lsdiff --strip=1
  478. # [03:52] <@gavin> heh
  479. # [03:52] <@gavin> I used "cvsd" for that
  480. # [03:53] <@bz> brings back memories!
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  485. # [03:57] <decoder> gavin: bz: if I know one of my patches broke inbound, do I back it out myself? or who does that? i just dont feel comfortable about heading to bed now without restoring the tree
  486. # [03:57] * Waldo never used CVS enough to feel the need for a local mirror, himself
  487. # [03:57] <decoder> it's not a major thing but all win debug builds are hitting purple at the end because of jit-tests
  488. # [03:58] <@bz> decoder: you can just back it out yourself
  489. # [03:58] <@bz> decoder: Or I can do it for you if really needed, I guess
  490. # [03:58] <@bz> Waldo: cvs diff was the reason for the mirrow
  491. # [03:58] <decoder> okay. i never did it before
  492. # [03:58] <decoder> and i dont want to mess things up
  493. # [03:58] <decoder> esp. not at 4 AM ;D
  494. # [03:58] <@bz> Ah
  495. # [03:59] <@bz> heh
  496. # [03:59] <@bz> go to bed
  497. # [03:59] <@bz> what changeset is this?
  498. # [03:59] <decoder> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f18ed13abcea
  499. # [04:00] <@bz> Thanks
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  501. # [04:00] <decoder> thank you for helping out
  502. # [04:01] <decoder> and tomorrow im going to track down what is actually wrong with the patch >.>
  503. # [04:01] <decoder> it was so nice to see all builds complete 20 minutes faster :(
  504. # [04:01] <@bz> Done
  505. # [04:01] <decoder> thx
  506. # [04:01] <decoder> ill comment in the bug then
  507. # [04:01] <@bz> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f01f7b2cd99a
  508. # [04:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f01f7b2cd99a - Boris Zbarsky - Back out revision f18ed13abcea (bug 827960) for turning Windows debug builds purple. They bruise easily!
  509. # [04:02] <@bz> Oh, right, firebot reports these things.
  510. # [04:02] <decoder> lol @ msg
  511. # [04:02] <@bz> I try. ;)
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  514. # [04:04] <@bz> % python --version
  515. # [04:04] <@bz> Python 2.7.3
  516. # [04:04] <@bz> Let's try this again. ;)
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  518. # [04:04] <decoder> bz: good luck and good nite =)
  519. # [04:04] <@bz> Thanks. ;)
  520. # [04:04] <@bz> At least configure happens now.
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  532. # [04:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb755890ec69 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 828789. Update to pixman 0.26.2.
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  539. # [04:25] <nemo> so
  540. # [04:25] <nemo> nightly suddenly froze
  541. # [04:26] <nemo> sucking up 100% of CPU
  542. # [04:26] <nemo> hm. you know. maybe I should mention this elsewhere
  543. # [04:26] <njn> bz: ping
  544. # [04:27] <@bz> njn: ack
  545. # [04:27] <njn> bz: so, bug 826521
  546. # [04:27] <njn> any ideas?
  547. # [04:28] <njn> bz: do you think smaug is right about the 2nd XHR ref being a JS external string?
  548. # [04:28] * @bz looks
  549. # [04:29] <nemo> oh hey. bz! he loves to speculate on stuff. I pasted it in #jsapi based on the bt. any ideas welcome, if you have the time. and given how late it is, I can't possibly be interrupting work. well. hopefully
  550. # [04:30] <@bz> nemo: them main question I end up with in that stack is why the QI landed in js::baseops::GetProperty
  551. # [04:30] <@bz> nemo: that looks ... odd
  552. # [04:30] <njn> bz: I guess this is the code where the sharing happens? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCString.cpp#71
  553. # [04:30] <romaxa> bz: hi, could you review patch from bug 826586, cannot catch benjamin ...
  554. # [04:30] <@bz> njn: yes
  555. # [04:30] <@bz> romaxa: it's on my list
  556. # [04:31] <@bz> romaxa: hopefully for tonight
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  559. # [04:32] <njn> bz: I'd like to believe that nsXHR::mResponseText is truly only shared via JS external strings, but it's something of a gamble
  560. # [04:32] <@bz> njn: So yeah, the most likely thing to be sharing this is a JS external string
  561. # [04:32] <@bz> njn: Nothing prevents someone from doing XHR from C++, but it's not easy to do
  562. # [04:32] <@bz> njn: and there are simpler options from C++
  563. # [04:32] <@bz> njn: though addons might do it...
  564. # [04:32] * @bz looks
  565. # [04:33] <njn> bz: I wonder if it would be useful to pass a callback into the JS engine to measure external strings
  566. # [04:33] <@bz> That has sharing problems too, no?
  567. # [04:33] <njn> bz: given an external string, is it possible (from Gecko) to determine if it uses a StringBuffer?
  568. # [04:33] <@bz> If you have multiple external strings with the same data?
  569. # [04:33] <njn> possibly
  570. # [04:33] <njn> I'm just brainstorming :/
  571. # [04:34] <@bz> Given the external string and the finalize the JS engine plans to use for it
  572. # [04:34] <@bz> it's trivial to tell. ;)
  573. # [04:34] <@bz> er, the finaliezr
  574. # [04:34] <@bz> er, finalizer
  575. # [04:34] * @bz is tired. ;)
  576. # [04:35] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792808#c1
  577. # [04:35] <@bz> <sigh>
  578. # [04:36] <njn> bz: I was just wondering how exernal strings are finalized...
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  580. # [04:36] <@bz> njn: JS_NewExternalString is given a pointer to a JSStringFinalizer
  581. # [04:36] <@bz> njn: which the engine holds on to
  582. # [04:36] <njn> ah
  583. # [04:36] <@bz> njn: and then calls when finalizing
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  585. # [04:36] <@bz> 43 static const JSStringFinalizer sDOMStringFinalizer = { FinalizeDOMString };
  586. # [04:36] <@bz> 32 static void
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  588. # [04:36] <@bz> 33 FinalizeDOMString(const JSStringFinalizer *fin, jschar *chars)
  589. # [04:37] <@bz> So given the JSStringFinalizer it's easy to tell whether that string is one of ours: compare the function pointer inside to &FinalizeDOMString
  590. # [04:37] <njn> bz: how does the JS external string increase the refcnt?
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  598. # [04:41] <@bz> njn: sorry
  599. # [04:41] <@bz> njn: back
  600. # [04:41] <@bz> njn: it doesn't
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  604. # [04:42] <njn> bz: so nsXHR::mResponseText has at least 2 refs, one from the table, and smaug says the other is probably from a JS external string
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  606. # [04:42] <njn> but that latter doesn't increase the refcnt
  607. # [04:42] <@bz> njn: we addref the buffer before calling JS_NewExternalString
  608. # [04:42] <@bz> njn: so it is in fact holding a ref
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  610. # [04:42] <njn> ok
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  613. # [04:42] <@bz> njn: but the refcounting is all outside the JS engine
  614. # [04:43] <njn> sure
  615. # [04:43] <@bz> It's a little confusing in ReadableToJSVal
  616. # [04:43] <@bz> Because of other complications
  617. # [04:43] <njn> yeah, I can't see the addref
  618. # [04:43] <@bz> but the upshot is that setting *sharedBuffer is a signal to the caller that the JS engine now owns a ref
  619. # [04:43] <njn> np, I belive you
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  621. # [04:43] <@bz> and the caller can decide whether to addref the buffer or to just forget its own pointer without releasing it
  622. # [04:44] <njn> but I'm not closer to measuring this properly :/
  623. # [04:44] <@bz> Thus transferring the ref and avoiding an extra addref/release
  624. # [04:44] <@bz> yeah
  625. # [04:44] * @bz is thinking
  626. # [04:44] <njn> is that extra ref for the external string stored somewhere in gecko?
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  628. # [04:44] <njn> oh, I guess we just addref somewhere and then release somewhere else
  629. # [04:44] <@bz> yeah
  630. # [04:45] <@bz> exactly
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  632. # [04:45] <@bz> So if we really cared...
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  634. # [04:45] <@bz> We could have some sort of data structure
  635. # [04:45] <@bz> which stores a mapping from stringbuffers to refcounts
  636. # [04:46] <@bz> Memory reporters would report their strings to it
  637. # [04:46] <@bz> and it would record how many times each string was reported
  638. # [04:46] <@bz> and if the numbers add up ... something
  639. # [04:46] <njn> bz: one difficulty is that memory reporters are "federated"
  640. # [04:46] <njn> i.e. we have lots of independent ones
  641. # [04:46] <@bz> Right
  642. # [04:46] <@bz> The other is we'd have to allocate memory to do this thing
  643. # [04:47] <njn> yeah
  644. # [04:47] <@bz> and the third is that we'd not be able to blame the string on things easily.
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  646. # [04:47] <njn> one possibility is to just say "let's hope smaug is right, measure nsXHR::mResponseText, and let DMD find any double-reports of those strings"
  647. # [04:47] <@bz> So I think smaug is right in the common case.
  648. # [04:48] <@bz> It's only when binary extensions are involved that it's a problem.
  649. # [04:48] <@bz> But the thing is... good news!
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  652. # [04:48] <@bz> binary extensions wouldn't be memory-reporting anyway.
  653. # [04:48] <njn> yeah
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  655. # [04:48] <@bz> So yeah
  656. # [04:48] <@bz> Let's just report it from xhr
  657. # [04:48] <njn> I could assert that the refcnt is 1 or 2
  658. # [04:49] <njn> though binary extensions might violate that
  659. # [04:49] <@bz> it would also be false if JS just gets .responseText twice
  660. # [04:49] <@bz> Better to just assume all other refs are not going to be reported.
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  662. # [04:50] <@bz> Which, given how little we report strings, is a good assumption, imo.
  663. # [04:50] <njn> ok, thanks
  664. # [04:51] <njn> bz: I guess it makes sense to report XHRs separately from the existing DOM stuff: text-nodes, element-nodes, etc
  665. # [04:51] <njn> ?
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  667. # [04:52] <@bz> njn: yes, I think so.
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  766. # [06:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d36a97058e39 - David Zbarsky - Bug 825147: Address review comments for SVGImageElement r=bz
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  781. # [07:07] <@bz> romaxa: I'd just land it
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  804. # [07:31] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/happy-bmo-push-day-25/
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  859. # [08:30] <ashish> timeless: ping regarding your bugmail
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  865. # [08:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff82d1a3955e - Mike Hommey - Bug 826992 - Avoid hardcoded clientId in SafeBrowser.jsm. r=Mossop,r=mfinkle,r=gcp
  866. # [08:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25ce76f1d0cf - Mike Hommey - Bug 828301 - Free zlib internal buffers when we're done uncompressing in the custom linker. r=nfroyd
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  951. # [09:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/973188627480 - Jed Parsons - Bug 823751 - When persona login in the Trusty UI is canceled, fire the RP's oncancel() callback; r=benadida, a=bb+
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  977. # [10:15] <past> edmorley: is there a keyboard shortcut in tbpl for selecting one of the suggested bugs to star?
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  980. # [10:16] <edmorley> past: not at the moment, but I really want one too (have just been focusing primarily on making TBPL recognise more types of failures up until now)
  981. # [10:16] <edmorley> I'll file a bug
  982. # [10:16] <past> thanks
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  1035. # [11:01] <NeilAway> wow, 700000 attachments already
  1036. # [11:01] * NeilAway wonders whether attachments will exceed bugs and when
  1037. # [11:03] <firebot> Check-in:
  1038. # [11:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de4efb8c517e - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 828207: Wallpaper over not being able to find a layer manager on the main thread when initializing a remote render frame. That's OK, we'll find one on the
  1039. # [11:03] <firebot> compositor thread. r=cjones
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  1043. # [11:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68c146972e78 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 828180 (crash in nsIContent::IsHTML). r=bz.
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  1059. # [11:26] <samba> I need to clear browser History from my extension without user intervention. nsICacheSesion.evictEntries and nsIBrowserHistory.removeAllPages haven't been of much help. Pl Help. Apologies for posting in wrong forum.
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  1061. # [11:27] <@smaug> samba: have you checked what "Clear recent history" ends up doing?
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  1064. # [11:30] <samba> smaug: More details please.
  1065. # [11:32] <@smaug> I'm not familiar with that dialog... looks like it ends up running http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/sanitizeDialog.js which uses http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/sanitize.js
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  1069. # [11:33] <@smaug> and you seem to call the same stuff
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  1072. # [11:34] <samba> smaug : yes
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  1074. # [11:35] <@smaug> then dunno. /me isn't toolkit/ or browser/ hacker
  1075. # [11:36] <samba> smaug: I will go through the code and figure out few things. Thanks for pointing me to right direction.
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  1079. # [11:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5a74a94f6d44 - Olli Pettay - Bug 817342, delay script runners when making static clones, r=roc
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  1091. # [11:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0277828fef0 - Diego Wilson - Bug 810501: Get buffer offset from ThebesLayer when composing with hwc. r=cjones a=blocking-basecamp
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  1100. # [11:58] <Yoric> Ms2ger: ping
  1101. # [11:58] <Ms2ger> Heya
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  1103. # [11:58] <Yoric> Ms2ger: About bug 827801, I suspect that I'll ned to revert the patch, don't you think so?
  1104. # [11:59] <Yoric> (given that 1/ it doesn't do anything; 2/ another patch has already landed that does what this patch should do)
  1105. # [11:59] <Ms2ger> Either that or move the test
  1106. # [11:59] <Ms2ger> If the other test is good enough, sure
  1107. # [11:59] * Ms2ger hasn't looked
  1108. # [11:59] <Yoric> They seem roughly equivalent.
  1109. # [12:00] <samba> smaug: thanks . got the thing working.
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  1113. # [12:04] <Ms2ger> 101:38.83 1849 compiler warnings present.
  1114. # [12:04] <Ms2ger> Didn't make it in 100 :/
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  1142. # [12:09] <@smaug> bye bye Berlin
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  1147. # [12:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6548956bb388 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 828232 - Allow to retry history downloads.
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  1160. # [12:11] <Optimize1> is there a separate channel for the new downloads ui ?
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  1162. # [12:11] <mak> no
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  1164. # [12:11] <mak> fx-team is fine though
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  1168. # [12:11] <Optimize1> heh, but you guys do not even land in fx-team first :P
  1169. # [12:11] <mak> details, details!
  1170. # [12:12] <Optimize1> devtools land there and they don;t even use that channel :P
  1171. # [12:12] <Optimize1> anyways
  1172. # [12:12] <mak> it's a strategy
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  1175. # [12:12] <Optimize1> are there any plans for pause button ?
  1176. # [12:12] <mak> probably in the Library in future
  1177. # [12:12] <Optimize1> there is a lot of space (the progress bar is too long)
  1178. # [12:12] <mak> not for now
  1179. # [12:12] <Optimize1> why not in the panel too (even in future) ?
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  1181. # [12:13] <mak> pause is considered an advanced feature, the panel supports the most common operations
  1182. # [12:13] <mak> btw, it's in the contextual menu
  1183. # [12:13] <Optimize1> it supports everything except pause
  1184. # [12:13] <Optimize1> per say
  1185. # [12:14] <Optimize1> even stopping the download. stopping is a very risky feature. You are just an accidental click away from stopping your download
  1186. # [12:14] <mak> I meant in the primary ui, click to open or open containing folder are the most common ops
  1187. # [12:14] <Optimize1> tru, they are the most common
  1188. # [12:15] <mak> it's far more common to cancel a download than to pause it
  1189. # [12:15] <mak> (I suppose this discussion is more related to UX than to coding, btw)
  1190. # [12:15] <Optimize1> yes, may be
  1191. # [12:16] <Optimize1> (for both the thoughts)
  1192. # [12:16] <Optimize1> but cancelling is far more risky than pausing
  1193. # [12:17] <mak> Regardless, this is the first iteration of the panel, things will likely change with more feedback
  1194. # [12:17] <Optimize1> hmm, I am looking forward to see the performance enhancements in the library view in today;s nightly
  1195. # [12:17] <mak> we are currently in release mode, the interaction will unlikely change for version 20
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  1197. # [12:17] <mak> may change for 21 and so on
  1198. # [12:18] <mak> feel free to file enh requests and ask UX team about those
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  1201. # [12:18] <@smaug> library view has those odd tiny icons on the right
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  1203. # [12:19] <mak> not that the old DM had giant buttons, had just a smaller width
  1204. # [12:19] <@smaug> possible
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  1206. # [12:19] <Optimize1> is it on purpose that the non hover non active state of the open directory button is not having an outer circle ?
  1207. # [12:20] <mak> I suppose things will improve in-content... for example if you open about:downloads, the buttons are so far from the entries...
  1208. # [12:20] <mak> so something will have to be done
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  1211. # [12:20] <mak> Optimize1: yes, it's to increase presence of the button when active
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  1213. # [12:20] <@smaug> oh, about:downloads
  1214. # [12:21] <Optimize1> mak: but the non hover non active state now looks totally different from all the rest states
  1215. # [12:21] <Optimize1> (hover, active)
  1216. # [12:21] <@smaug> hmm, what happened to about:permissions. It is still there, but there isn't any easy way to activate it?
  1217. # [12:21] <mak> Optimize1: yes, that's the design we got
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  1219. # [12:21] <Optimize1> :|
  1220. # [12:21] <mak> smaug: it's being worked on afaik
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  1222. # [12:21] <mak> not yet enabled
  1223. # [12:21] <@smaug> k
  1224. # [12:22] <mak> smaug: Boriss and keeler are working on it, iirc
  1225. # [12:22] <Optimize1> its weird that the folder icon is closed and without encircling circle, and suddenly its opened and within a circle too
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  1227. # [12:22] <mak> Optimize1: which OS?
  1228. # [12:22] <Optimize1> Windows 7
  1229. # [12:23] <mak> the folder icon doesnt'change for me... I don't see it closed/opened
  1230. # [12:23] <Optimize1> lemmi sreenshotya
  1231. # [12:23] <mak> I see the circle but the folder is identical here (sad grey folder)
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  1233. # [12:24] <Optimize1> no, it is closed in non hover state, but open in hover or active for me
  1234. # [12:24] <Optimize1> okay yes, it changes colors ro appears to open up, but it is still shy
  1235. # [12:24] <Optimize1> :|
  1236. # [12:25] <mak> hah
  1237. # [12:25] <Optimize1> so misleading..
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  1240. # [12:26] <jlebar> peterv: ping?
  1241. # [12:27] <mak> Optimize1: re performances, it should be much faster, though there's a couple bugs to fix yet
  1242. # [12:28] <Optimize1> yes, I saw the bugs land yesterday, so they will be in today's nightly, right ?
  1243. # [12:28] <mak> some interaction broke
  1244. # [12:28] <mak> yes
  1245. # [12:28] <Optimize1> yeah that page down one ?
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  1247. # [12:29] <Optimize1> I guess yesterday also some performance bugs landed, I see differences now itself
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  1257. # [12:40] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Ok, my first attempt at pushing something to inbound.
  1258. # [12:40] <Yoric> Let's see how much I break.
  1259. # [12:41] <Yoric> Mmmhh...
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  1261. # [12:44] <Yoric> Obviously, my hg-fu is not up to the task yet.
  1262. # [12:45] * Ms2ger doesn't see anything
  1263. # [12:45] <Ms2ger> Yoric, what'd it say?
  1264. # [12:46] * NeilAway guesses "about: push creates new remote head"
  1265. # [12:46] <NeilAway> *abort
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  1267. # [12:46] <NeilAway> too manu about: URLs ;-)
  1268. # [12:46] <NeilAway> *many
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  1273. # [12:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f932b3812c63 - Alex Nagacevschi - Bug 800188 - Add preliminary support RTL content in reader mode (r=lucasr)
  1274. # [12:53] <Ms2ger> roc, fwiw, bugzilla can do the move-to-next-bug-on-commit thing, and I've always found it pretty annoying :)
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  1280. # [12:55] <@roc> it's not instant though
  1281. # [12:55] <@roc> it just loads it
  1282. # [12:56] <@roc> it also doesn't correlate well with my bugmail reading
  1283. # [12:56] <gaston> Yoric: is it the same checkout that you use for central ?
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  1286. # [12:56] <Yoric> Don't worry, I just had a "new remote head".
  1287. # [12:56] <Yoric> Trying to work it out.
  1288. # [12:56] <gaston> it's a bit trick to use the same checkout
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  1292. # [12:57] <gaston> from what i understand it happens when you pulled from central and it hasnt been merged yet to inbound
  1293. # [12:58] <glazou> wow, a painful regression in the editor
  1294. # [12:58] <gaston> so now i've resorted to only pull from inbound when i know i'll need to push smth to it
  1295. # [12:58] <glazou> someone horked the HTML+CSS editing rules
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  1297. # [12:58] <glandium> gaston: it's actually easy. hg push -r rev-to-push
  1298. # [12:58] <@smaug> glazou: Nightly?
  1299. # [12:58] <gaston> to only push a rev, regardless of the status of push/pull wrt both repos ?
  1300. # [12:58] <glazou> seems quite old
  1301. # [12:58] <glandium> gaston: and if you just did hg qfinish -a a few moments ago hg push -r tip
  1302. # [12:58] <@smaug> uh
  1303. # [12:59] <glazou> but yeah nightly shows it
  1304. # [12:59] <@smaug> glazou: anyhow, file a bug
  1305. # [12:59] <glazou> oh yes
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  1307. # [12:59] <gaston> i usually used hg push without -r
  1308. # [12:59] <@smaug> regression range would be really great
  1309. # [12:59] <gaston> but i'll try that next time
  1310. # [12:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/645bf43f8f14 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 818575 - Make TransformShadowTree transform all descendant scrollable layers instead of just the first. r=roc
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  1314. # [13:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3b6bc4b2590 - Ben Turner - Bug 827749 - Aggressively duplicate file descriptors. r=cjones.
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  1318. # [13:02] <glandium> gaston: i'm using the same checkout for m-c and m-i, this way. i also use the same checkout for m-a and m-b
  1319. # [13:03] <glandium> gaston: i always do an hg outgoing beforehand, though, to check that i'm really going to push what i intend to
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  1322. # [13:05] <glazou> smaug, NeilAway: bug 828931
  1323. # [13:05] <glandium> roc: i'm not entirely convinced by a third-party client being faster. At least, when i see how slow hg bzexport is, i'm not very confident
  1324. # [13:06] <gaston> glandium: i've had 'new remote head' errors often when pushing, but that may be only due to the fact that i dont use -r when pushing
  1325. # [13:06] <glandium> gaston: most of the time, that happens because someone beats me to pushing.
  1326. # [13:07] <glandium> on m-i, that can actually happen quite often
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  1329. # [13:07] <gaston> do you do hg merge locally sometimes ?
  1330. # [13:07] <edmorley> gaston: should always rebase
  1331. # [13:07] <edmorley> if it's being pushed
  1332. # [13:08] <edmorley> secret is just to script a quick hg incoming check before pushing & rebase if needed
  1333. # [13:08] <gaston> that's where my hg-fu stops :)
  1334. # [13:08] <edmorley> :-)
  1335. # [13:08] <gaston> rebase or merge always scares me
  1336. # [13:09] <glandium> gaston: when you get the new remote head thing, just hg pull --rebase
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  1338. # [13:09] <gaston> if i get it right, that 'moves' the new local changesets on top of the remote tip ?
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  1341. # [13:09] <glandium> yes
  1342. # [13:10] <edmorley> gaston: correct
  1343. # [13:10] <gaston> ookay
  1344. # [13:10] <gaston> one hg tip a day keeps the borked checkout away..
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  1346. # [13:12] <Ms2ger> hg qpo -a && hg pull -u inbound && hg qpu foo && hg qfin -a && hg push inbound wfm
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  1351. # [13:13] <gaston> that works if you didnt pull from central in the meantime (ie when central is 'ahead' of inbound)
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  1355. # [13:14] <Ms2ger> Mm
  1356. # [13:14] <gaston> (or that's what i more or less understood from my past errors)
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  1358. # [13:14] <Ms2ger> Merge central into inbound then ;)
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  1362. # [13:15] <gaston> i'll let that to the hg wizards^Wsheriffs :)
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  1371. # [13:21] <Optimize1> mak: one more bug related to tab press behavior
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  1373. # [13:21] <Optimize1> up/down keys switch between the downloads and the show all downloads, but when you are on any item, pressing tab goes to the open containing folder.
  1374. # [13:21] <Optimize1> press tab again and it goes to show all downloads, unexpected
  1375. # [13:22] <Optimize1> press tab again and it disappears
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  1378. # [13:22] <Optimize1> you have to shift tab to get it back to show all downloads
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  1381. # [13:23] <Optimize1> imo, pressing tab should only cycle b/w the item and its open containing directory button
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  1392. # [13:26] <NeilAway> glazou: it's not the first painful regression :-(
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  1400. # [13:29] <NeilAway> glazou: well, bug 824924 is only painful in html mode, css mode is not affected
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  1405. # [13:32] <glazou> NeilAway: Aryeh broke a lot of things to be more WebKit-like
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  1409. # [13:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a93bc7b059b - Tom Schuster - Bug 828020 - exactly root StaticScopeIter. r=terrence
  1410. # [13:36] <peterv> jlebar: pong
  1411. # [13:36] <mak> Optimize1: the focusring bug covers that
  1412. # [13:36] <Optimize1> oh okay.
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  1430. # [13:46] <NeilAway> glazou: he wants me to implement background colour in js, but I can't work out how to read the background colour in CSS mode the same way that the C++ code does it :s
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  1432. # [13:48] <glazou> NeilAway: remember we kept that in C++ in the good ol'days because of editor's embedders ?
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  1435. # [13:49] <Callek> NeilAway: s/colour/color/ :-P
  1436. # [13:49] <NeilAway> Callek: :-P
  1437. # [13:49] <Callek> you and your queens english
  1438. # [13:49] <glazou> behavioUr
  1439. # [13:50] <NeilAway> Callek: why do you think I didn't write cmd_backgroundColor ;-)
  1440. # [13:50] <NeilAway> glazou: we had embedders?
  1441. # [13:50] <glazou> I don't think we have any one any more
  1442. # [13:50] <glazou> one any more sorry
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  1444. # [13:51] <glazou> I think cmanskey did cmd_backgroundColor btw
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  1450. # [13:52] <glazou> cmanske
  1451. # [13:53] <NeilAway> !seen cmanske
  1452. # [13:53] <firebot> cmanske was last seen 369 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 52 minutes and 35 seconds ago,
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  1454. # [13:53] <glazou> 369/52
  1455. # [13:53] <glazou> yeah yeah
  1456. # [13:54] <NeilAway> so, about 7 years and 5 weeks ;-)
  1457. # [13:54] <glazou> I think he was working at ManyOne at that time
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  1461. # [13:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e06f05ff1edc - Ben Turner - Backout f3b6bc4b2590 (Bug 827749) for test failures.
  1462. # [13:55] <glazou> NeilAway: if you try to tell us you've not been away for the last ten years, I can testify it's wrong ; you've been away all time :-D
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  1464. # [13:56] <hsivonen> wild. my Linux box froze for a few moments looping its audio buffer and freezing graphics and then *recovered*
  1465. # [13:56] <hsivonen> haven't seen a computer recover from that before
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  1481. # [14:04] <@bz_sleep> do we know who wrote the relnotes for 18?
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  1485. # [14:04] <@bz_sleep> We claimed to fix something that we didn't actually fix...
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  1488. # [14:05] <Callek> bz: might want to e-mail r-d they should know for sure and can easily work to find someone to correct it
  1489. # [14:06] <@bz> r-d, ok
  1490. # [14:06] * Callek presumes of course that you know what r-d stands for :-)
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  1496. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> Callek, denied review?
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  1500. # [14:11] <jlebar> Do we have a fix_macosx_stack.py that works for asan output?
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  1503. # [14:12] <@bz> Callek: release-drivers?
  1504. # [14:12] <glazou> rogue developer
  1505. # [14:13] <Callek> bz: yes
  1506. # [14:13] <edmorley> rarely dull?
  1507. # [14:14] * NeilAway sighs
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  1509. # [14:14] <NeilAway> background plugin update strikes again
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  1512. # [14:15] <jlebar> mrbkap: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824817
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  1516. # [14:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da9cd7ac8713 - Ed Morley - Backout 645bf43f8f14 (bug 818575) for crashes on Android on a CLOSED TREE
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  1523. # [14:20] <jlebar> peterv: I was pinging about bug 827689, which bz just closed, so there we go. :)
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  1529. # [14:24] <Ms2ger> mounir, enjoy :)
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  1541. # [14:28] <peterv> jlebar: ok
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  1543. # [14:29] <edmorley> is there a specific constant in browser-chrome tests for determining if they are running on windows, or should I just use navigator.userAgent.indexOf ?
  1544. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> Latter, I suspect
  1545. # [14:30] <mcsmurf> check navigator.platform?
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  1547. # [14:30] <sewardj_> jlebar: ping
  1548. # [14:31] <jlebar> sewardj_: Will you be around in 10m? Someone else jumped into my queue.
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  1550. # [14:31] <sewardj_> jlebar: going to get lunch now, .. 1/2 hour OK ?
  1551. # [14:32] <edmorley> mcsmurf: ah better, thank you
  1552. # [14:32] <jlebar> sewardj_: yes, totally; just ping me when you're back.
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  1558. # [14:33] <mcsmurf> edmorley: probably you want something like navigator.platform.indexOf("Win") != -1
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  1560. # [14:33] <mcsmurf> to catch 32 and 64 bit
  1561. # [14:34] <edmorley> yeah true
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  1564. # [14:34] <edmorley> or .contains()
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  1566. # [14:34] <Callek> or in
  1567. # [14:34] <edmorley> since I find it a bit more readble
  1568. # [14:35] <Callek> edmorley: you and your fancy new code thingamajigs
  1569. # [14:35] <mcsmurf> indexOf is oldschool
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  1574. # [14:37] <edmorley> heh, contains isn't even on release yet :-)
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  1592. # [14:46] <NeilAway> bah, why do debug builds not have a timeout?
  1593. # [14:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e777d664763 - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 4 - Whitespace only change. Change "type &var" to "type& var" and ptrs. r=dougt
  1594. # [14:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77d3c4a0afb6 - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 6 - Fix JS code that was failing xpcshell tests. r=marshall_law
  1595. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4dabceec29a3 - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 3 - Modify the updater to support update.link file. r=rstrong
  1596. # [14:48] <Ms2ger> edmorley, the issue is that it probably won't make it there in the near future :/
  1597. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22991fd4bcd8 - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 7 - Fix nsIncrementalDownload to work on sdcard. r=jduell
  1598. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eea4fefd010b - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 1 - Add VolumeMountLock which allows SDCard to be locked. r=dougt
  1599. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82c54850f723 - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 2 - JS changes to updater to allow storing update.mar to sdcard. r=marshall_law
  1600. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c54fb92091a - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 8 - Fix test_0030_general.js to work when downloaded file goes to sdcard.
  1601. # [14:48] <Callek> can someone stop him from checking in so many patches :-P
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  1604. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d9ec6237d95 - Dave Hylands - Bug 785124 - Pt 5 - Add extra asserts. r=dougt
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  1606. # [14:49] <edmorley> Ms2ger: how come?
  1607. # [14:50] <Callek> edmorley: ping [low prior]
  1608. # [14:50] <edmorley> Callek: now is fine :-)
  1609. # [14:50] <Ms2ger> edmorley, because there's a popular JS library, prototype I think, that has a different contains() up there
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  1613. # [14:50] <Callek> edmorley: sooo skimming your comments in 822321 I see lots of different TBPL summary lines, which to me at a glance look like this is being exposed currently alongside many other issues/bugs
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  1617. # [14:51] <Callek> edmorley: are we starring all those as this instead, or are we starring multiple things and adding this as one of them?
  1618. # [14:51] <edmorley> Callek: latter
  1619. # [14:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1391e924e9ee - Kyle Huey - Bug 806503: Eagerly transmit blob data across processes so that it is available if the originating process dies. r=bent a=bb+
  1620. # [14:52] <Callek> edmorley: ok, *that* I can tolerate, just wanted to make sure we weren't losing all that other state, or blaming this for most of that other state
  1621. # [14:52] <edmorley> Callek: indeed
  1622. # [14:52] <Ms2ger> a=bb+ is such a readable annotation
  1623. # [14:52] <edmorley> lol
  1624. # [14:52] <edmorley> Ms2ger: would be even more so, if that changeset needed binary approval...
  1625. # [14:53] <Callek> edmorley: I still owe you that investigation but its looking more and more like it won't be this week :-)
  1626. # [14:53] <Ms2ger> ==> b = a/2?
  1627. # [14:53] <edmorley> Callek: ok
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  1629. # [14:53] <edmorley> Callek: is that error just an expected retry condition that happens to be using a string that tbpl matches against?
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  1632. # [14:53] <edmorley> Callek: given that it's the final reboot.py so shouldn't (and doesn't) fail the run
  1633. # [14:54] <edmorley> by expected, I mean "bad device that will get picked up by mozpool before the next run anyway"
  1634. # [14:55] <Callek> edmorley: my *theory* is that, although I corrected [I think] the relay.py socket connection issue, the fact that the code also retries connecting to the device itself, and in some cases the SUTAgent takes a bit longer to pop up on the device now, its possibly throwing that error due to SUTAgent not connecting
  1635. # [14:55] <mcsmurf> the contains thing was Bug 789036, it's included in FF 18 from I know
  1636. # [14:55] <mcsmurf> "Bug 789036 - MooTools 1.2.x was broken by adding String.prototype.contains"
  1637. # [14:55] <edmorley> oh, mdn says 19
  1638. # [14:55] <mcsmurf> oh, hm
  1639. # [14:55] <mcsmurf> not sure, would need to check in bugzilla now
  1640. # [14:55] <mcsmurf> maybe they changed it again when I was not looking
  1641. # [14:55] <Callek> edmorley: so my first thought was that it had that error due to the relay board connections only, this may just be a slightly different thing exposing the same message at ~ the same place
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  1644. # [14:57] <mcsmurf> status-firefox17: fixedtracking-firefox18: +status-firefox18: wontfixtracking-firefox19: +status-firefox19: wontfix
  1645. # [14:57] <mcsmurf> so from what I see contains should work in FF 18
  1646. # [14:57] <mcsmurf> and break old MooTools
  1647. # [14:57] <edmorley> Callek: ah, ok
  1648. # [14:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f17992358a63 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 823974 - Permission requests from browser elements should be denied if unknown/denied for the container app, r=sicking, a=bb+
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  1650. # [14:58] <khuey> dougt: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6739
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  1655. # [14:59] <dougt> khuey: hah
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  1662. # [15:02] <Ms2ger> Yoric, looks like something went right :)
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  1666. # [15:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8bae43380b6 - Chris Jones - Bug 828114: Set a timer to ensure content processes are killed if their tabs take a long time to shut down. r=jlebar a=blocking-basecamp
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  1674. # [15:08] <pedro> my firefox nightly is crashing when I access a site - does it always submit a crash report?
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  1677. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> pedro, look at about:crashes
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  1679. # [15:09] <@bz> Oh, for crying out loud
  1680. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> Yessir?
  1681. # [15:09] <@bz> Why the hell are we deliberately shipping broken code? :(
  1682. # [15:09] <mcsmurf> just saw my comment from bugmail? :o
  1683. # [15:10] <@bz> contains()
  1684. # [15:10] <mcsmurf> looks like..
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  1687. # [15:10] <@bz> mcsmurf: Yes!
  1688. # [15:10] * Ms2ger puts his flying bus in reverse
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  1690. # [15:10] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801311#c7
  1691. # [15:10] * @bz sighs
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  1693. # [15:11] <@bz> Did we at least relnote this? Nooooo
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  1698. # [15:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/92280b8d2478 - Joel Maher - Bug 828752 - update talos.zip to unblock firefox-beta. r=aki a=Callek CLOSED TREE
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  1701. # [15:12] <sheppy> We mentioned MooTools breakage ages ago. Did it happen again or is this the same one?
  1702. # [15:12] <Ms2ger> Still the same
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  1704. # [15:12] <sheppy> Then not my problem. :)
  1705. # [15:13] <mcsmurf> well, websites are sometimes quite slow to adapt to this
  1706. # [15:13] * sheppy goes about his business.
  1707. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> I think this is the point where DOM people would go to the WG and tell them to change
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  1709. # [15:13] <@bz> sheppy: mentioned where?
  1710. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> s/go/have gone/
  1711. # [15:13] <@bz> sheppy: This breakage is new in 18
  1712. # [15:13] <@bz> sheppy: in that we didn't ship it in 17
  1713. # [15:13] <sheppy> bz: Is it? Then that's one nobody told us about.
  1714. # [15:13] <hsivonen> speaking of breakage, I wonder if I should push for the Cisco dark matter innerHTML getter breakage to be included in the release notes of the new ESR
  1715. # [15:13] <mcsmurf> of course it also sucks that some website "owners" say: We won't care about alpha/beta versions, only about release
  1716. # [15:14] <@bz> sheppy: yes, the handling on this has been .... suboptimal
  1717. # [15:14] <sheppy> We mentioned one back in the, I dunno, Firefox 13 or 14 timeframe I think.
  1718. # [15:14] <mcsmurf> and then only start fixing when the release is out
  1719. # [15:14] <sewardj_> jlebar: ping
  1720. # [15:14] <@bz> sheppy: want to add it to fx18 for developers, or should I?
  1721. # [15:14] <sheppy> Of course, we haven't had anyone actively documenting Firefox stuff for developers in like a year anyway.
  1722. # [15:14] <@bz> mmm
  1723. # [15:14] <sheppy> All our resources are going into FxOS.
  1724. # [15:15] <sheppy> bz: Please do. Thanks.
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  1727. # [15:15] <hsivonen> do we have any guidelines or rules about what kind of enterprisey stuff should go into ESR release notes even if it didn't go into normal release notes?
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  1730. # [15:15] <sheppy> I'm working on fixing our shortage of manpower on Firefox docs but it will take some time to get caught up, and to undo the damage from the past year.
  1731. # [15:16] <sheppy> The last release we actively documented was 13.
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  1733. # [15:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a051840bec18 - Gina Yeh - Bug 828811 - After OPP session disconnected, wait for 1 sec and close socket actively if the socket is still connected, r=echou
  1734. # [15:16] <mcsmurf> eep
  1735. # [15:16] <hsivonen> who owns release notes? release drivers?
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  1738. # [15:16] <sheppy> After that, we had to throw everything at apps and the OS.
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  1741. # [15:17] <@bz> sheppy: ouch
  1742. # [15:17] <@bz> sheppy: so the problem is... no one told us this
  1743. # [15:17] <sheppy> I have mentioned it regularly.
  1744. # [15:17] <@bz> sheppy: this is the first time I've heard of it
  1745. # [15:17] <sheppy> Both in IRC and on various blogs.
  1746. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> I heard, but I hang out in #devmo
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  1748. # [15:17] <@bz> sheppy: and given some of the dev-doc-needed stuff I see in bugs, I'm not the only one
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  1751. # [15:17] <@bz> sheppy: that explains the several critical doc/relnote pieces that never happened....
  1752. # [15:18] <sheppy> Been trying to get the okay to hire another writer but I don't expect it to happen.
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  1754. # [15:18] <@bz> Management totally failed here.
  1755. # [15:18] * @bz sends mail
  1756. # [15:18] <sheppy> Too many requests for more engineers. :)
  1757. # [15:18] <sheppy> bz: There has been a good bit of fail to go around.
  1758. # [15:19] <@bz> I mean..
  1759. # [15:19] <sheppy> The writing staff is going to be discussing this issue today. Ali and I have a new plan, I think.
  1760. # [15:19] <sheppy> I don't know if it will work but we'll try.
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  1765. # [15:21] <sheppy> Having such shoddy docs for Firefox is embarrassing, IMHO. But we've been told to prioritize apps and OS docs, and been given a lot of things we're required to cover, so we had to shift focus entirely to get there.
  1766. # [15:21] <@bz> I think there's a difference between "no docs" and "no relnotes on web-breaking changes"
  1767. # [15:21] * @bz is primarily interested in how we ended up with the latter.
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  1769. # [15:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b985a8224a0 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 824148 - [KEYBOARD] Input type=range should bring up the number keyboard. r=ttaubert
  1770. # [15:22] <sheppy> bz: We don't have anyone telling us specifically what the big-deal items are.
  1771. # [15:22] <sheppy> Since we haven't been told of any, we haven't documented them.
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  1774. # [15:23] <sheppy> The ones we hear about do get noted.
  1775. # [15:23] <sheppy> This was not one of them.
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  1778. # [15:24] <@bz> sheppy: I'm not blaming you
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  1780. # [15:24] <sheppy> bz: I know. I'm just explaining how things got this borked up. :(
  1781. # [15:24] <@bz> sheppy: The real problem here is that our system for tracking "this must get relnoted because it breaks thing" is nonexistent
  1782. # [15:25] <sheppy> I feel guilty about it even though it couldn't be avoided.
  1783. # [15:25] <sheppy> bz: other than that, that is.
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  1786. # [15:25] <sheppy> We do need a way to flag items that MUST be documented or the Web will explode.
  1787. # [15:25] <sheppy> And to keep that from being abused. :)
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  1790. # [15:26] <@bz> sheppy: I'd worry about abuse if/when it happens
  1791. # [15:26] <@bz> sheppy: honestly.
  1792. # [15:27] <@bz> sheppy: I think this could have been easily avoided if eng mgmt had just told people they had to document their own breakages.
  1793. # [15:27] <sheppy-iPad> bz: we actually tried to get the ball rolling on that and caught a lot of flak about it basically not being y'all's job so we pulled back.
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  1796. # [15:28] <sheppy-iPad> And I didn't follow up on it like I should have because I've been swamped.
  1797. # [15:28] <edmorley> Yoric: your backout is burning -- missing the makefile change (did you just delete the files manually rather than using hg backout?)
  1798. # [15:28] <@bz> sheppy-iPad: Grrrrr
  1799. # [15:28] <Yoric> edmorley: I attempted to use hg backout.
  1800. # [15:28] <@bz> sheppy-iPad: it's not our job to clean up after ourselves? What the hell?
  1801. # [15:28] <sheppy-iPad> bz: we need to have a discussion I think about where responsibilities lie for ensuring docs happen.
  1802. # [15:28] <edmorley> Yoric: I'll land a followup
  1803. # [15:28] * @bz is not talking major functionality docs, just a basic "API foo is broken with library bar" crap
  1804. # [15:28] <Yoric> thanks
  1805. # [15:29] <@bz> sheppy-iPad: Yes. There are docs, and then there are docs. And some of them had better be everyone's responsibility.
  1806. # [15:29] <sheppy-iPad> bz: yeah, that would be a reasonable start.
  1807. # [15:29] <@smaug> I'm all for documenting our own breakages, if someone proof-reads my text
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  1809. # [15:29] <sheppy-iPad> smaug: we proofread everything
  1810. # [15:30] <@smaug> ah, good :)
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  1812. # [15:30] <sewardj> jlebar: ping
  1813. # [15:30] <jlebar> sewardj: Perfect timing; hey.
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  1816. # [15:30] <sewardj> jlebar: you buggable about nsTArray races?
  1817. # [15:31] <jlebar> sewardj: sure.
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  1825. # [15:33] <sewardj> jlebar: I saw your comment re the bitfield race. Thing is though, if I change the nsTArrayHdr decl to de-bitfield-ise it, there are still a bunch of races on mIsAutoArray
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  1827. # [15:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a200bde12057 - Ed Morley - Backout rest of 8d16c92e1bf4 (bug 827801) to fix the build on a CLOSED TREE
  1828. # [15:33] <edmorley> Yoric: no worries, easy fix :-)
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  1830. # [15:33] <jlebar> sewardj: Can I see some of your other stacks? The one in the bug doesn't make much sense to me.
  1831. # [15:33] <sewardj> jlebar: which I can't make sense of. Am trying to figure out if they are (1) bug in nsTArray (unlikely), (2) misuse of nsTArray (possible), or (3) problem w/ helgrind
  1832. # [15:34] <sewardj> jlebar: yes, one mo ...
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  1840. # [15:37] <sewardj> jlebar: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049459
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  1844. # [15:38] <jlebar> sewardj: That is really weird and kind of looks like a helgrind bug.
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  1847. # [15:39] <sewardj> jlebar: it could be that H is failing to see some relevant synchronisation event between the threads, that makes it all OK
  1848. # [15:39] <jlebar> sewardj: or maybe we're using the observer service off-main-thread...
  1849. # [15:39] <jlebar> sewardj: But I don't even see how we're sharing an array there.
  1850. # [15:39] <noahclone> hey guys, need a build config guru here. got some people asking about a "Couldn't load XRE functions" error message after compiling and running their builds. seems to be hitting linux users only.
  1851. # [15:40] <sewardj> jlebar: but in that case I would expect to see races on lots of different nsTArray internals
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  1853. # [15:40] <sewardj> jlebar: whereas it only ever complains about the mIsAutoArray
  1854. # [15:40] <jlebar> hm
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  1858. # [15:41] <jlebar> sewardj: What I think we need to figure out is how the swap in the worker code can touch the observer array.
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  1860. # [15:41] <sewardj> jlebar: the two stacks have thread #s attached, if that helps
  1861. # [15:42] <jlebar> sewardj: the observer service also checks that it's being touched from the main thread, fwiw.
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  1865. # [15:43] <sewardj> jlebar: the complaints always seem to involve SwapArrayElements and IsAutoArrayRestorer
  1866. # [15:44] <jlebar> sewardj: well, that's not too surprising, since swap() is the only time we change a header's is-auto-array field after it's constructed.
  1867. # [15:44] <jlebar> sewardj: it might also be helpful to be able to identify /which/ tarray is being destructed in that first stack.
  1868. # [15:44] <jlebar> sewardj: Some steps are being skipped and I can't tell...
  1869. # [15:45] <sewardj> jlebar: by 'steps' you mean stack frames, yes?
  1870. # [15:46] <jlebar> sewardj: yes
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  1873. # [15:46] <jlebar> sewardj: due to inlining or whatever.
  1874. # [15:46] <sewardj> jlebar: let me see if I can get you some more info. Will be a while.
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  1876. # [15:46] <jlebar> sewardj: okay; thanks!
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  1889. # [15:53] <noahclone> khuey: hey there, was wondering if Ii could get some of your build config knowledge on this. have you seen this error before? "Couldn't load XRE functions"
  1890. # [15:53] <noahclone> got some people asking about a "Couldn't load XRE functions" error message after compiling and running their builds. seems to be hitting linux users only.
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  1895. # [15:55] <khuey> noahclone: try | make -C objdir/toolkit/library clean && make -C objdir/toolkit/library | ?
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  1903. # [15:58] <noahclone> khuey: ah thanks. I'll pass that on. the guy also posted a shell session in case that helps narrow down the problem: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/943647#answer-395775
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  1996. # [16:32] <sewardj> jlebar: so .. the race-on location seems to be always, exactly, just nsTArrayHeader::sEmptyHdr::mIsAutoArray
  1997. # [16:33] <sewardj> jlebar: there's no sign that any other object's mIsAutoArray is raced on
  1998. # [16:33] <jlebar> sewardj: wait a second...we're modifying *that* value?
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  2000. # [16:33] <jlebar> sewardj: /that/ is bad.
  2001. # [16:34] <sewardj> jlebar: yes, if my reading of all this is correct.
  2002. # [16:34] <sewardj> I wonder if I can get GDB to do a data breakpoint on it.
  2003. # [16:34] <jlebar> sewardj: sEmptyHdr::mIsAutoArray should always be 0, and its length should always be 0.
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  2005. # [16:35] <glazou> wow
  2006. # [16:35] <glazou> Aryeh, Aryeh, Aryeh, why do you break my editor code...
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  2009. # [16:36] <Callek> glazou: y do you not make BlueGriffon part of SeaMonkey :-P
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  2011. # [16:36] <Callek> [/troll]
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  2013. # [16:36] <glazou> well he broke Seamonkey too
  2014. # [16:36] <glazou> and Thunderbird too
  2015. # [16:37] <Callek> well yea
  2016. # [16:37] <Callek> :-)
  2017. # [16:37] <hub> nice attempt at workaround ;-)
  2018. # [16:37] <@bz> glazou: hmm? nsresult?
  2019. # [16:38] <glazou> inline styles create far too many spans
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  2022. # [16:38] <@bz> ah
  2023. # [16:38] <jlebar> How do I get bash to strip '.out' off a variable?
  2024. # [16:38] <glazou> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828931#c3
  2025. # [16:38] <@bz> problem with our code, or with the spec?
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  2027. # [16:38] <glazou> code
  2028. # [16:39] <@bz> ok. That's simpler to fix. ;)
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  2030. # [16:39] <@bz> That was a long time ago regression. :(
  2031. # [16:39] * @bz mutters about lack of tests
  2032. # [16:39] <glazou> but I think we made a few VERY wrong choices in the spec, following too closely what WebKit does
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  2034. # [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e1fe4baad60 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 828863 - Add a remote debugger actor to install apps r=past
  2035. # [16:40] <glazou> and what WebKit does is sometimes just silly
  2036. # [16:40] <@bz> If the spec is dumb, we should fix it
  2037. # [16:40] <@bz> File spec issues?
  2038. # [16:40] <glazou> yeah
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  2040. # [16:40] <Matti> bz: Do you think that david wants a bisect in bug 828815 ?
  2041. # [16:41] <@bz> Matti: gimme a sec
  2042. # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9da8f50d3750 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 829035. Reduce pixman bilinear precision to match upstream.
  2043. # [16:42] <@bz> Matti: if you have spare cycles, I'm sure he wouldn't mind
  2044. # [16:42] <@bz> Matti: however let me just take a look at the page
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  2046. # [16:42] <Matti> you have to disable the flash player or you will get flash content instead of SVG
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  2048. # [16:43] <@bz> Matti: yeah, I got that.
  2049. # [16:44] <@bz> Matti: So this is definitely something the site is doing itself, in script
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  2052. # [16:45] <@bz> Bisecting or a smaller testcase are probably needed
  2053. # [16:45] <@bz> hey, you can ask him! ;)
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  2056. # [16:46] <Matti> ok, will do a bisect later in my nightshift and hope that it helps to fix that bug.
  2057. # [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3d89d6870e6 - Ed Morley - Bug 822284 - Disable browser_privatebrowsing_cookieacceptdialog.js & browser_privatebrowsing_crh.js on OS X for too many intermittent failures
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  2060. # [16:48] <@bz> Matti: awesome, thanks!
  2061. # [16:48] <davidb> where is the firefox front end goals wiki?
  2062. # [16:48] <davidb> (for q1 2013)
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  2066. # [16:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f53242d94bc - Mike West - Bug 828261: Implement 'window.location.origin'. r=bholley, sr=sicking
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  2086. # [16:56] <sfink> jlebar: if you still need it, ${VARNAME%.out} I think
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  2091. # [16:57] <vikash> gerv: ping
  2092. # [16:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bc7abeadfe9 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 828838: Fix nsCSSRuleProcessor init-list order. r=heycam
  2093. # [16:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b6af33dae4f - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 827888: Fix usage of sIsParing variable [r=echou,qdot]
  2094. # [16:57] <jlebar> sfink: thanks; I finally read to the bottom of that bash tutorial site and found it. :)
  2095. # [16:58] <decoder> gps: ping?
  2096. # [16:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd7d549c42ad - Fabrice Desré - Bug 828863 - followup, forgotten typo r=past
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  2102. # [16:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe583d3e9165 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 818575 - Only sync viewport for primary layer. r=cjones
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  2107. # [17:00] <gerv> vikash: pong.
  2108. # [17:01] <vikash> gerv: Can I discuss on PM if you are not busy?
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  2133. # [17:08] <sewardj> jlebar: presumably it would be ok to write to sEmptyHdr::mIsAutoArray so long as the written value is aways zero ?
  2134. # [17:08] <vikash> gerv: busy?
  2135. # [17:09] <gerv> vikash: a bit, sorry.
  2136. # [17:09] <gerv> PM me if it's urgent, or send email.
  2137. # [17:09] <vikash> gerv: No problem at all..
  2138. # [17:09] <vikash> gerv: if not today then sometime later :)
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  2140. # [17:09] <vikash> and yes I did send you an email :)
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  2144. # [17:13] <jlebar> sewardj: sure.
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  2149. # [17:14] <sewardj> jlebar: Maybe that is what is going on. I already had to hide a (non-)race in which zero is added to sEmptyHdr::mLength
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  2152. # [17:15] <glandium> "hey we're doing MITM, but it's not MITM" http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-decrypting-traffic-man-in-the-middle-attacks-103799
  2153. # [17:18] <jlebar> glandium: "blind man in the middle."
  2154. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/386676422536 - Mike Conley - Bug 827015 - Clean up "Clear Downloads" button theming for Library Downloads view. r=mak.
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  2159. # [17:21] <jlebar> whimboo: Can you get a js heap dump for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825802 ?
  2160. # [17:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44a1fb250a30 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 826300 - Don't block on waiting for a valid surface when trying to resume the compositor; allow resuming to fail gracefully. r=snorp,BenWa
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  2162. # [17:22] <whimboo> jlebar: how do i do that?
  2163. # [17:23] <jlebar> whimboo: Run the ./get_gc_cc_log.py script
  2164. # [17:23] <jlebar> whimboo: Hopefully it works. :)
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  2166. # [17:23] <whimboo> jlebar: oh i already did locally
  2167. # [17:23] <whimboo> jlebar: just looking how to process those files
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  2169. # [17:23] <jlebar> whimboo: Perhaps we should assign the bug to you if you're looking into it? Then people will stop bothering me, which would be nice... :D
  2170. # [17:24] <jlebar> whimboo: You don't need to process the JS dump, I think.
  2171. # [17:24] <whimboo> jlebar: you have indeed more knowledge. not sure how long it will take for me
  2172. # [17:24] <whimboo> jlebar: on usb ?
  2173. # [17:24] <jlebar> whimboo: well, could you attach the dump to the bug?
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  2228. # [17:53] <sewardj> jlebar: yes, there is a lot of writing of zero to sEmptyHdr::mIsAutoArray going on
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  2235. # [17:56] <jlebar> sewardj: that's also kind of weird, but not as alarming...
  2236. # [17:56] <sewardj> jlebar: I have the stack trace of every single such write, if you want to see ..
  2237. # [17:56] <jlebar> sewardj: sure.
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  2244. # [18:00] <sewardj> jlebar: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049640
  2245. # [18:00] <nrc> backing out bug 826921, but taking a minute...
  2246. # [18:01] <jlebar> sewardj: well, that's silly.
  2247. # [18:01] <jlebar> oh, I see.
  2248. # [18:01] <jlebar> Hm.
  2249. # [18:02] <sewardj> jlebar: see also http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049644
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  2252. # [18:03] <gregglind> what is the absolute fastest way (settings) to start-up firefox. Some special home page? Any settings to tweak?
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  2255. # [18:04] <gregglind> and what do people actually think startup is?
  2256. # [18:04] <froydnj> /me grumbles at python 2.7 requirement
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  2258. # [18:05] <Callek> froydnj: yum install python2.7
  2259. # [18:05] <Callek> froydnj: homebrew .... <something>
  2260. # [18:05] <froydnj> Callek: yum: command not found :p
  2261. # [18:05] <Callek> froydnj: apt-get python2.8
  2262. # [18:05] <Callek> s/8/7/
  2263. # [18:05] <froydnj> s/yum/homebrew/
  2264. # [18:05] <Callek> ahhhh :-)
  2265. # [18:05] <hub> want a boot cd?
  2266. # [18:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03fd5f43435d - Benoit Girard - Bug 761135 - Remove XPCOMGlueShutdown. r=benjamin
  2267. # [18:06] <froydnj> Callek: no python2.7 packages, either
  2268. # [18:06] <Callek> froydnj: what OS are you ON!??
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  2270. # [18:06] <hub> Callek: fruit OS
  2271. # [18:06] <hub> Callek: since he uses homebrew
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  2273. # [18:06] <hub> froydnj: MacPorts is superior ;-)
  2274. # [18:06] <froydnj> oh, sorry, only one that's less than two years old
  2275. # [18:06] <froydnj> hub: no homebrew, either
  2276. # [18:07] <froydnj> Callek: debian
  2277. # [18:07] <hub> froydnj: when why the <froydnj> s/yum/homebrew/
  2278. # [18:07] <hub> :-)
  2279. # [18:07] <Callek> froydnj: Squeeze?
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  2282. # [18:08] <froydnj> hub: in reference to "command not found" bit
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  2284. # [18:08] <froydnj> Callek: yes
  2285. # [18:08] <jlebar> sewardj: so the idea is that in ~IsAutoArrayRestorer(), mArray.mHdr->mLength = 0 is writing to the empty header?
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  2288. # [18:08] <Callek> froydnj: http://www.stylesen.org/python_27_debian_squeeze_60
  2289. # [18:09] <sewardj> jlebar: hmm ok I'm confusing you
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  2291. # [18:09] <hub> froydnj: oh. my bad
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  2293. # [18:09] <jlebar> sewardj: sorry, work weeks are hard for me to focus at. :)
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  2296. # [18:09] <Callek> froydnj: *or* update to wheezy
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  2298. # [18:11] <sewardj> jlebar: w.r.t. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049644, that is something that I had to add a couple of years back to get sane Helgrinding of nsTArray. It's not directly related to this ~IsAutoArrayRestorer question.
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  2300. # [18:12] <jlebar> sewardj: understood.
  2301. # [18:12] <sewardj> jlebar: Point is that it shows that this isn't the first time that we've been found doing redundant writes to sEmptyHeader
  2302. # [18:12] * NeilAway idly wonders what a partial interface is
  2303. # [18:12] <jlebar> sewardj: I see.
  2304. # [18:12] <jlebar> sewardj: I'm just trying to figure out how ~IsAutoArrayRestorer might be writing to the empty header.
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  2307. # [18:13] <jlebar> sewardj: Oh, I guess it could be writing 0 to mArray.mHdr->mIsAutoArray, which is the empty header.
  2308. # [18:13] <jlebar> That's probably it.
  2309. # [18:13] <jlebar> Okay, that's not ideal.
  2310. # [18:13] <BenWa> edmorley: Ping, want me to put a deployment request to include https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/rev/d4ad9eb7fece?
  2311. # [18:13] <sewardj> I'm inclined to kludge ~IsAutoArrayRestorer as per http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049647
  2312. # [18:14] <sewardj> jlebar: at least for race-checking purposes
  2313. # [18:14] <froydnj> Callek: hm, a solution that might break things, judging by the comments, or a solution to upgrade an entire perfectly working system :)
  2314. # [18:14] <edmorley> BenWa: hi :-) I'm shortly going to land something else that I'd quite like to tag along with the push (next few hours), that work?
  2315. # [18:14] <jlebar> sewardj: Yes. But it might be worth changing nsTArray, to avoid the cache line traffic.
  2316. # [18:14] <jlebar> Although I guess we don't swap that much.
  2317. # [18:14] <BenWa> edmorley: Ok, i'll let you file the deployment request
  2318. # [18:14] <Callek> froydnj: option (c) build a py2.7 yourself, independant of the system py2.6 and point the build system at it
  2319. # [18:15] <Callek> froydnj: option (d) search google for other choices
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  2321. # [18:15] <Ms2ger> option (e): work on aurora
  2322. # [18:15] <Ms2ger> That probably matches your OS best
  2323. # [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64624cab8dc1 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 816306: Part 1 - Report more network errors during update checks. r=bbondy
  2324. # [18:16] <froydnj> :)
  2325. # [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5be4511b8225 - Marshall Culpepper - Bug 816306: Part 2 - Report update HTTP errors to Gaia, and accompanying tests. r=fabrice
  2326. # [18:16] <Callek> option (f) locally patch m-c to support py2.6 again
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  2329. # [18:17] <jst> gcp: ping
  2330. # [18:18] <@bz> Anyone here familiar with pointerlock or fullscreen?
  2331. # [18:18] <@bz> Should we have the on* event handlers for those on nodes and documents?
  2332. # [18:18] <@bz> Or just one window?
  2333. # [18:18] <@bz> er, on
  2334. # [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b28889afccbe - Nicholas Cameron - Backout bug 818575
  2335. # [18:19] * @bz thinks fullscreen should just be on window, but has no idae how pointerlock works
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  2337. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> humph, ^
  2338. # [18:19] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
  2339. # [18:19] <froydnj> ...and mozboot doesn't work here. lovely
  2340. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> So, a question
  2341. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/18.0/firstrun/
  2342. # [18:19] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  2343. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> Is there a reason that page claims to be on beta?
  2344. # [18:19] <gcp> jst: pong
  2345. # [18:19] <jst> gcp: howdy
  2346. # [18:20] <jst> gcp: I just needinfo'ed you in the b2g update bug you filed
  2347. # [18:20] <gcp> ok, will do
  2348. # [18:20] <jst> gcp: we'd love to see an adb logcat from that device
  2349. # [18:20] <BenWa> smaug: ping, got a user getting weird errors in the CC thread. Any thoughts on this? http://molily.de/assets/ff18-lldb.txt
  2350. # [18:20] <jst> gcp: thanks!
  2351. # [18:20] <Ms2ger> ... because I just downloaded Firefox and that came up
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  2359. # [18:22] <sewardj> jlebar: thanks for the analysis of this
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  2361. # [18:23] <jlebar> sewardj: sorry I wasn't too sharp!
  2362. # [18:23] <gcp> jst: btw, any way to link bugs to feedback reports?
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  2365. # [18:24] <gcp> jst: well, the reverse. I reported something in feedback and would like to find the corresponding bug.
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  2367. # [18:24] <@smaug> BenWa: lookin
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  2369. # [18:25] <gcp> jst: btw, anything I should ook for in logcat/
  2370. # [18:25] <gcp> jst: look for in logcat
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  2373. # [18:26] <@smaug> BenWa: I have no idea what 0xc1ea12 is
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  2375. # [18:27] <@smaug> odd looking code
  2376. # [18:27] <BenWa> smaug: i think the JSRuntime that's called has a null 'this' pointer
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  2386. # [18:28] <@smaug> BenWa: ownerThread is what?
  2387. # [18:28] <@smaug> I wonder how do you get this assertion
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  2390. # [18:29] <BenWa> I don't know. this->ownerThread_ must be null so this must be null
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  2392. # [18:29] <BenWa> So likely NotifyEnterCycleCollectionThread has a null JSRuntime
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  2394. # [18:30] <@smaug> BenWa: but have you done some changes?
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  2396. # [18:30] <@smaug> this is all old code
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  2398. # [18:30] <BenWa> Coming from some user in bug 828761
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  2401. # [18:31] <mccr8> BenWa: that's some hacky thing Luke added to support the off-main-thread cycle collection in the presence of single-threaded JS. I have no idea why it would trigger. Maybe because it is triggering JS off the main thread somewhere, like in the CC?
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  2404. # [18:31] <BenWa> mccr8: Would that be in the release channel?
  2405. # [18:31] <mccr8> BenWa: I think it is in everything like 15+
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  2407. # [18:32] <BenWa> Umm alright
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  2409. # [18:33] <mccr8> BenWa: my theory, based on very little, is that somehow it is triggering profiler code (which is written in JS?) while the CC is running...
  2410. # [18:34] <BenWa> mccr8: Some cc specific profiler code or the js prologue/epilogue profiler support code?
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  2413. # [18:35] <mccr8> BenWa: I don't know... ;) though I don't know why we wouldn't see that normally. Maybe if his CCs are super long then we're running during hte CC whereas we wouldn't normally...
  2414. # [18:36] <BenWa> mccr8: Fresh profile with no tabs =\
  2415. # [18:36] <mccr8> weird
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  2474. # [19:01] <@bz> hm, trychooser defaults are nicer now. To the test pool, at least.
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  2476. # [19:02] <edmorley> bz: yeah, I was hoping it might mean less people run everything through just accepting the default
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  2479. # [19:02] <edmorley> defaults to just opt now too
  2480. # [19:03] <davidb> people still just accept the default?
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  2483. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> Defaulting to opt-only sounds a pretty bad idea
  2484. # [19:03] <mbrubeck> even if they don't just accept the default, they probably use it as a starting point
  2485. # [19:04] <mbrubeck> so a different default will lead to different results
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  2487. # [19:04] <edmorley> davidb: I can only go by what I see on Try, but a fair number of people use -p all -u all
  2488. # [19:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: debug doesn't run android tests
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  2490. # [19:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: and it upto double the test runtime
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  2492. # [19:04] <davidb> ( edmorley hmmm well i guess that's intentional then)
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  2495. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> And it catches leaks :)
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  2497. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> And assertions
  2498. # [19:05] <mbrubeck> We should have a "-p most -u most" that skips non-tier-1 stuff like jetpack tests
  2499. # [19:05] <BenWa> well then dev should request what they need :)
  2500. # [19:05] <edmorley> Ms2ger: agree, but this is only the default checked/selected fields on the trychooser app, doesn't stop people selecting debug
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  2503. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> BenWa, I'd argue all devs need those :)
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  2506. # [19:06] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I couldn't set debug as the default, or lots of suites don't run
  2507. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  2509. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> Which seems unfortunate to me
  2510. # [19:07] <mbrubeck> All devs? When I'm only changing, say, JS front-end code, I don't really care about running building C++ debug code for my Try push
  2511. # [19:07] <BenWa> we should allow multiple try syntax and take the intersection
  2512. # [19:07] <mbrubeck> I mean, obviously we still need to run those tests when I land
  2513. # [19:07] <BenWa> That way we could select exactly the test we want
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  2515. # [19:07] <mbrubeck> but breaking them is so rare that it's not worth the extra resources to prevent the very very few cases where it happens
  2516. # [19:07] <mbrubeck> especially since we can just back it out when it does
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  2518. # [19:07] <BenWa> a full on most platform + several test on a single platform
  2519. # [19:07] <BenWa> full build on most platform*
  2520. # [19:07] <edmorley> Ms2ger: sadly there is a proportion of people that blindly request every platform and test, end up with just one suite failing - and then proceed to push multiple times to figure out a fix - but asking for -p all -u all every time :-(
  2521. # [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71d3013257a9 - Terrence Cole - Bug 828607 - Fix exact rooting in jsproxy; r=evilpie
  2522. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> BenWa, yeah, that would be nice
  2523. # [19:09] <BenWa> id love to have trychooser just show the TBPL test list and have the user just click on the tests/builds
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  2527. # [19:10] <edmorley> as an example (and sorry to pick on bhackett, it's just the first one I found), did this run really need to run all tests AND talos on every platform, when it's clearly not ready for talos testing https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b799f0cbc4a2
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  2529. # [19:10] <edmorley> in an ideal world we'd have buildbot realise the push is hosed and cancel partway through
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  2532. # [19:11] <decoder> gps: I ripped out the multiprocess.Pool usage now because it was still behaving not properly on windows with ctrl+c at least (but it wasnt the problem described in the blog). I replaced it with my own method but it seems much slower. might want to have a look at what I might be doing wrong?
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  2534. # [19:11] <decoder> also I noticed that on windows, jit-tests dont enforce the timeout (they dont kill the process). I added code to do that
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  2538. # [19:12] <Optimizer> mak: (
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  2540. # [19:12] <Optimizer> mak: :(
  2541. # [19:14] <gps> decoder: multiprocess.Pool is full of fail :(
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  2544. # [19:15] <@ted> we
  2545. # [19:15] <decoder> gps: yea thats why I decided to throw it out now
  2546. # [19:15] <@ted> we're using that in make buildsymbols now
  2547. # [19:15] <decoder> but it seems to have regressed speed
  2548. # [19:16] <gps> decoder: anyway, I'd *really* like for this to land. but, I'm still heads down on FHR. then I need to review packager rewrite. then I can work on "fun" things again
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  2550. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> gps, no, then I need you to work on DIRS :)
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  2552. # [19:16] <gps> decoder: the existing code in the JS tree looked pretty bulletproof to me
  2553. # [19:16] <gps> also, you could always land multiprocessing.Pool on !Windows
  2554. # [19:17] <decoder> yea that might be an option too
  2555. # [19:17] <@ted> Ms2ger: i think in gps' sick twisted world, the DIRS patches are fun
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  2557. # [19:17] <decoder> gps: best would be if I got it to work just using multiprocessing.Process. I suspect the js code is not easily adaptable without rewriting a lot of code
  2558. # [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94333351aab3 - Ben Turner - Bug 828870 - All shared blobs must be immutable. r=khuey.
  2559. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3aa492e39918 - Ben Turner - Bug 827749 - Aggressively duplicate file handles. r=cjones.
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  2561. # [19:17] <gps> decoder: did you look at the multiprocess.Pool clone I wrote for hg-git?
  2562. # [19:18] <gps> I haven't tested on Windows, however
  2563. # [19:18] <decoder> gps: oh, I totally forgot about that. ill do that too and test it on windows, thx!
  2564. # [19:19] <gps> I also have code in bug 819048 and in my patch queue - https://hg.mozilla.org/users/gszorc_mozilla.com/mq-sc/file/4a14ca02ed7a/python-parallel-pool
  2565. # [19:19] <bsmedberg> gps: dammit, I hate bug 722648 already!
  2566. # [19:19] <gps> that patch is horribly broken IIRC
  2567. # [19:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fc37d11f9af - Wes Johnston - Bug 818336 - Don't switch tabs when returning to a webapp. r=mfinkle
  2568. # [19:19] <gps> bsmedberg: I'll stop making a scene in the bug :)
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  2573. # [19:21] <humph> bz: they want it (spec) on elements vs fullscreen
  2574. # [19:21] <humph> we just did fullscreen to land it quickly and not have to block on the security stuff
  2575. # [19:22] <humph> (re: pointerlock)
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  2577. # [19:22] <@bz> humph: hmm
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  2579. # [19:22] <@bz> humph: I'm really fine either way, just need to know how to write my idl
  2580. # [19:22] <humph> bug 822654 is the non-fullscreen stuff
  2581. # [19:23] <humph> webkit does this now
  2582. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> gps, nobody seems to have added new DIRS for two days... I'm bracing myself for tomorrow :)
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  2584. # [19:24] <glandium> oh my, are we really going to import icu?
  2585. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> BUT WE NEED IT
  2586. # [19:24] <gps> glandium: how does elm merge factor into DIRS refactor?
  2587. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> glandium, just make sure it goes into libxul, then we can backout to get back under the memory limit for pgo builds :)
  2588. # [19:25] <glandium> gps: it adds a bunch of directories, but that shouldn't be unmanageable
  2589. # [19:25] <gps> also, how does B2G 1.0 foo impact packager landing?
  2590. # [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6c4fd2603f9 - Jared Wein - Bug 828120 - Social panel buttons are too wide on Mac. r=mattn
  2591. # [19:25] <glandium> gps: ?
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  2593. # [19:26] <gps> if it could impact B2G, landing it before Jan 15 might be an issue
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  2597. # [19:26] <gps> I was told DIRS landing had to wait for B2G to leave the station
  2598. # [19:26] <gps> well, I guess I was convinced it was a good idea :)
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  2600. # [19:27] <glandium> gps: i doubt i'll be landing the packager before that anyways
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  2602. # [19:27] <glandium> gps: what have you left to review on it, btw?
  2603. # [19:27] <gps> glandium: everything to the right of "mozjar.py" in splinter :) it's still my #1 priority after FHR
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  2607. # [19:28] <glandium> gps: have you read my comments?
  2608. # [19:28] <edmorley> nrc: some lovely autumn colours on TBPL :-)
  2609. # [19:29] <gps> glandium: not all of them
  2610. # [19:29] * vladan-afk is now known as vladan
  2611. # [19:29] <gps> I'm also ~50 comments behind on the DIRS bug, so don't feel bad :)
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  2614. # [19:30] <nrc> edmorley: sorry about that, I think I've backed out already though, or did the backout break it?
  2615. # [19:31] <edmorley> nrc: no the backout was fine, just playing whac-a-mole staring them (not able to pre-emptively star, since they're not in the DB when pending/running)
  2616. # [19:32] <nrc> ah, sorry, I'll help out with the starring
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  2620. # [19:32] <edmorley> thank you :-)
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  2638. # [19:40] <benjamin> jaws: how's click-to-play?
  2639. # [19:40] <gregglind> what is the current name for "getNoAppCodebasePrincipal"
  2640. # [19:40] <jaws> benjamin: good, what about it? :)
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  2643. # [19:40] <benjamin> jaws: is it done is what I meant
  2644. # [19:41] <@ted> seems to work pretty well
  2645. # [19:41] <jaws> benjamin: done as in all software is done :)
  2646. # [19:41] <@ted> i've had it enabled for a while
  2647. # [19:41] <@ted> i dropped flashblock for it a while back
  2648. # [19:41] <jaws> you can enable it by going to about:config and setting plugins.click_to_play=true
  2649. # [19:41] <jaws> but of course more work is still under way
  2650. # [19:41] <benjamin> jaws: thanks for the philosophical answer
  2651. # [19:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdfa7133f207 - Eduard Neculaesi - Bug 802534 - [OS.File] Main thread versions of OS.File.Info and OS.File.DirectoryIterator.Entry should have nice prototypes; r=yoric
  2652. # [19:41] <jaws> it is the ground work for blocking plugins by default
  2653. # [19:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b042b636671 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 829112: Fix "comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions" warnings in nsStyleSet.cpp. r=bz
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  2655. # [19:42] <jaws> benjamin: no problem ;)
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  2657. # [19:42] <@ted> jaws: i kind of hate the prompt we added for hidden plugins though
  2658. # [19:42] <@ted> it's a little obnoxious given how prevalent they are :-/
  2659. # [19:43] <jaws> ted: yeah i know, it should only happen once per browsing session, but it is shown once per window per browsing session currently
  2660. # [19:43] <jaws> i agree about it being annoying
  2661. # [19:43] <benjamin> block, then slowly starve
  2662. # [19:43] * jimm-lunch is now known as jimm
  2663. # [19:43] <@ted> i must open lots of new windows
  2664. # [19:43] <jaws> we could change it so that it only shows up if there is a blocklisted hidden plugin on the page
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  2666. # [19:44] <jaws> benjamin: with all that being said, there isn't much remaining work to be done for click-to-play. many of the patches are being uplifted, and i would say that after 21 there shouldn't need to be much work left (hopefully)
  2667. # [19:44] <@ted> so that if you flipped the pref you don't see it?
  2668. # [19:44] <@ted> only if we forced it on you
  2669. # [19:44] <gaston> gps: glandium: out of curiosity what/which is the DIRS bug ?
  2670. # [19:44] <jaws> ted: yeah that's right
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  2672. # [19:44] <@ted> that sounds pretty cool
  2673. # [19:44] <@ted> it's usually fairly obvious to me when there's a hidden plugin i need
  2674. # [19:44] <jaws> we've been trying to spend less time on the about:config users needs, because we still need to make sure to handle the forced case first
  2675. # [19:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33e9b69e55cc - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 826455 Expose more NetAddr functions to script r=biesi,josh
  2676. # [19:45] <gps> gaston: 784841
  2677. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> gaston, bug 784841
  2678. # [19:45] <gaston> thx
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  2680. # [19:46] <evilpie> jaws: the problem i see tech press sometimes mentions this, and users start to think everything should work like a real feature
  2681. # [19:46] <evilpie> same with mixed content prefs
  2682. # [19:46] <jaws> yeah i know
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  2684. # [19:46] <glandium> ted: the worst part of the prompt is that it keeps reappearing after a browser restart
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  2691. # [19:47] <gaston> Ms2ger: holy batman build system maze unfucking
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  2694. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> gaston, :)
  2695. # [19:47] <Matti> benjamin: it seems that bug 828954 is wfm for me as well in the latest nightly
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  2697. # [19:49] <gps> bsmedberg: in terms of startup notifications, when is it safe to interact with prefs?
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  2702. # [19:50] <bsmedberg> gps: well, that's a two-part question
  2703. # [19:50] <bsmedberg> you can get the pref service at any time you want, really
  2704. # [19:50] <gps> I discovered that :)
  2705. # [19:50] <bsmedberg> and if you set up a pref observer, you will get the user pref when the profile "starts"
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  2707. # [19:50] <jaws> ted, evilpie, glandium: this is likely to help https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820678
  2708. # [19:51] <gps> so what you are saying is that user prefs are only available after profile start and that I shouldn't attempt to read/write prefs until after profile start
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  2710. # [19:51] <bsmedberg> gps: well, if you're observing prefs correctly any time is fine
  2711. # [19:51] <bsmedberg> but normally you don't want to start that kind of work until profile-after-change is fired
  2712. # [19:52] <evilpie> jaws: sounds reasonable. which addons are considered vulnerable?
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  2715. # [19:52] <gps> bsmedberg: thanks you very much! this explains why I'm not seeing prefs written on startup
  2716. # [19:52] <jaws> evilpie: out of date plugins is what that means, like old java, silverlight, etc
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  2718. # [19:52] <jaws> or current plugins if there are known vulns
  2719. # [19:53] <evilpie> jaws: okay this sounds like what most people would expect from this feature
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  2721. # [19:53] <evilpie> of course we should allow the old behavior to not upset other people
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  2723. # [19:54] <bsmedberg> gps: *written*?
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  2729. # [19:55] <gps> bsmedberg: I was setting some prefs during app-startup and no user stored pref was being recorded
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  2732. # [19:56] <bsmedberg> hrm
  2733. # [19:56] <bsmedberg> I wonder if we should throw if you try to set user prefs before there is a profile
  2734. # [19:56] <bsmedberg> I bet that would screw up xpcshell tests though.
  2735. # [19:56] <gps> of course the exception would get swallowed by nsIObserverService
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  2737. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, should we use nullptr in xpcom/typelib/xpt/xpt_struct.c or just leave it with NULL?
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  2739. # [19:57] <jaws> evilpie: what do you mean by "old behavior"?
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  2741. # [19:58] <evilpie> jaws: blocking everything
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  2743. # [19:58] <jaws> evilpie: yeah, that's not going anywhere
  2744. # [19:58] <bsmedberg> Ms2ger: doesn't matter to me, nullptr should work
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  2746. # [19:58] <jaws> evilpie: it may eventually be a pref in the Content section, but not yet
  2747. # [19:58] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, OK, thanks
  2748. # [19:59] <evilpie> jaws: okay that is probably something most of them can live with
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  2754. # [20:00] <mccr8> Is there a bug on file for crash-stats.mozilla.com not bringing up individual reports?
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  2764. # [20:02] <Matti> mccr8: i filed one
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  2766. # [20:02] <mccr8> Matti: thanks. what is the number?
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  2773. # [20:03] <Matti> mccr8: bug 829159 but I didn't know that this is a widespread issue
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  2775. # [20:04] <mccr8> thanks
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  2788. # [20:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> edmorley: warning: there may be some failures due to ftp.m.o
  2789. # [20:11] <edmorley> ok, ta
  2790. # [20:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> what's ta?
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  2792. # [20:12] * philor|away is now known as philor
  2793. # [20:12] <stefanh> thanks
  2794. # [20:12] <jaws> looks like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=94333351aab3 is burning
  2795. # [20:12] <sfink> thanks again, I assume
  2796. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> bhearsum|buildduty, British for "tea"
  2797. # [20:13] <jaws> where's bent when you need him?
  2798. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> jaws, in Berlin
  2799. # [20:13] <jaws> hehe
  2800. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> And in my experience, well hidden
  2801. # [20:14] * jaws goes to back it out
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  2806. # [20:15] <stefanh> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ta
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  2808. # [20:15] <sfink> learn sumthin' new every day
  2809. # [20:16] <Ms2ger> Origin: 1765–75; by infantile shortening and alteration
  2810. # [20:16] <Ms2ger> Hah
  2811. # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85b09d1c1cdc - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 94333351aab3 (bug 828870)
  2812. # [20:16] <sfink> my 2nd guess was testosterone anger, and edmorley left to beat the crap out of a punching bag, but that makes more sense
  2813. # [20:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cb5b72a226d - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 3aa492e39918 (bug 827749) for failing all tests OS X.
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  2815. # [20:16] <Ms2ger> sfink, that's not a nice way to describe bhearsum
  2816. # [20:17] <bhearsum|buildduty> stefanh: thanks :)
  2817. # [20:17] <edmorley> bhearsum|buildduty: sorry, "ta" -> colloguial for thank you
  2818. # [20:17] <Ms2ger> edmorley, *colloquial ;)
  2819. # [20:17] <sfink> :)
  2820. # [20:17] <edmorley> colloquial even
  2821. # [20:17] <edmorley> :-P
  2822. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61eddbd33e8c - Wes Johnston - Bug 828509 - Look up entire dom tree for available context menu items. r=mfinkle
  2823. # [20:18] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
  2824. # [20:18] <edmorley> "Most likely influenced by the Danish word tak, the Swedish word tack, and the Icelandic word takk, meaning thanks, via a process of final consonant deletion"
  2825. # [20:18] <stefanh> bhearsum|buildduty: np :-)
  2826. # [20:18] <jhammel> edmorley: don't worry, colloguial is colloquial for colloquial
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  2828. # [20:18] <edmorley> ha
  2829. # [20:18] <edmorley> shh you :-)
  2830. # [20:19] <stefanh> edmorley: do you also say 'ta-ra'?
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  2833. # [20:20] <jaws> joshmoz: ping?
  2834. # [20:20] * edmorley shooos jhammel back to the talos cave
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  2836. # [20:20] <stefanh> (supposed to mean good-bye)
  2837. # [20:20] <edmorley> stefanh: can't say I've ever heard that being used
  2838. # [20:20] <jhammel> talos cave...sounds about right
  2839. # [20:20] <edmorley> oh
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  2842. # [20:21] <stefanh> at least according to http://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/british-english-slang
  2843. # [20:21] <edmorley> jhammel: like the bat cave except a load more cobwebs
  2844. # [20:21] <edmorley> and no butler
  2845. # [20:21] <philor> did we just back something out for ftp.m.o returning 500 errors?
  2846. # [20:21] <bsmedberg> heh
  2847. # [20:21] <jhammel> edmorley: and all the cool bat-stuff is broken
  2848. # [20:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> philor: no
  2849. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that'll teach it!
  2850. # [20:22] <edmorley> philor: yes, but bhearsum|buildduty warned about some problems
  2851. # [20:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> ftp is dead because we buried it
  2852. # [20:22] <edmorley> unrelated problems
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  2854. # [20:22] <edmorley> jhammel: broken or sat unused in the corner
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  2856. # [20:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> this is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829169, fyi
  2857. # [20:24] <edmorley> thank you
  2858. # [20:24] <philor> what I actually meant was "http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cb5b72a226d - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 3aa492e39918 (bug 827749) for failing all tests OS X."? but it failed them by getting a 500 from ftp.m.o, didn't it?
  2859. # [20:24] <jaws> philor: so i shouldn't have backed out?
  2860. # [20:24] <jaws> you think it was an infra issue?
  2861. # [20:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> ah
  2862. # [20:25] <philor> jaws: afraid so, yeah
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  2864. # [20:25] * jaws feels stupid
  2865. # [20:26] <philor> nah, they can look weird when they start, based on what push is scheduling tests when
  2866. # [20:26] <edmorley> philor: oh sorry I thought you meant the DNS backout
  2867. # [20:26] <jaws> should i reland those patches i backed out?
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  2869. # [20:26] <philor> but I'm not convinced we should have any tree open right now
  2870. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> jaws, wait a little
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  2872. # [20:27] <philor> bhearsum|buildduty: got any reason to believe it's all over and better now, or should we close every tree?
  2873. # [20:27] <edmorley> I've just closed
  2874. # [20:27] <philor> sweet
  2875. # [20:27] <bhearsum|buildduty> philor: nope, i have no evidence to suggest that it's better yet
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  2877. # [20:28] * philor goes back to his 6 week high pile of backed up work
  2878. # [20:28] <philor> avoid situations that cause you to be gone for 6 weeks, that's my new policy
  2879. # [20:29] <jhammel> so this is the groundhog day of tbpl?
  2880. # [20:29] <@bz> philor: heh
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  2883. # [20:29] * Ms2ger hugs philors
  2884. # [20:29] <@bz> philor: I feel your pain
  2885. # [20:29] <Ms2ger> *s?
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  2887. # [20:29] <@bz> philor: though maybe that's just the voodoo dolls
  2888. # [20:29] <edmorley> lol
  2889. # [20:29] <Ms2ger> bz, I hope not literally, because... *cringe*
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  2893. # [20:30] <edmorley> jhammel: that's every day isn't it?
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  2898. # [20:31] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
  2899. # [20:32] <Ms2ger> 500 Internal Server Error / make[1]: *** [install-xulrunner-sdk] Error 8
  2900. # [20:32] <Ms2ger> bhearsum|buildduty, that's ftp, right?
  2901. # [20:32] <bhearsum|buildduty> yep
  2902. # [20:33] <bhearsum|buildduty> and that's because the gaia build system is stupid
  2903. # [20:33] <bhearsum|buildduty> and downloads a 350MB xulrunner just so it can run js
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  2914. # [20:38] <@bz> JavaScript strict warning: chrome://global/content/bindings/browser.xml, line 223: reference to undefined property this.boxObject.QueryInterface(...).docShell
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  2916. # [20:38] <@bz> What's up with that?
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  2928. # [20:43] <Waldo> your boxobject doesn't have a docshell property?
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  2930. # [20:43] <Waldo> or at least that's what it reads as
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  2932. # [20:44] <@smaug> Waldo: right
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  2937. # [20:44] <Optimizer> can the profiler provide information on reflows and what caused them (as in what js line or what css line/rule) ?
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  2941. # [20:44] <@smaug> <xul:browser> boxobject which has property for docshell
  2942. # [20:45] <@smaug> s/which//
  2943. # [20:45] <@smaug> Optimizer: ask BenWa.
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  2945. # [20:45] <@smaug> Optimizer: but depends on the reflow I guess
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  2947. # [20:45] <@smaug> Optimizer: reflow isn't necessarily synchronous
  2948. # [20:46] <Optimizer> yes, so profiler relies on sync events ?
  2949. # [20:46] * AutomatedTester|away is now known as AutomatedTester
  2950. # [20:46] <@smaug> well, if you want to see the stack
  2951. # [20:47] <Optimizer> how does chrome show it ?
  2952. # [20:47] <Optimizer> do they implement only sync reflows, or they show only for them
  2953. # [20:47] <Optimizer> is there something that I can read ?
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  2955. # [20:49] <@smaug> Optimizer: Chrome shows what caused the reflow?
  2956. # [20:49] <Optimizer> in a paint event, yes.
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  2958. # [20:49] <Optimizer> the timeline records the paint event and you can view what line caused it
  2959. # [20:50] <@smaug> ah
  2960. # [20:50] <@smaug> I guess we could record the changes
  2961. # [20:50] <@smaug> and report all the lines which have affected to the reflow
  2962. # [20:50] <@smaug> Optimizer: it does report multiple places?
  2963. # [20:50] <@smaug> Chrome that is
  2964. # [20:51] <Optimizer> like when the reflow starts fire an event, and when it ends you already have mozafterpaint
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  2966. # [20:51] <Optimizer> let me check that
  2967. # [20:51] <@smaug> Optimizer: what does it do when it isn't JS which caused reflow
  2968. # [20:51] <Optimizer> that too
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  2972. # [20:55] <Optimizer> smaug: so apparently, it does not do any of what I said
  2973. # [20:55] <Optimizer> :|
  2974. # [20:55] <@smaug> Optimizer: :)
  2975. # [20:56] <@smaug> so where did you get the idea it does all that ?
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  2978. # [20:56] <Optimizer> I just thought that it does
  2979. # [20:56] * ehugg__ is now known as ehugg
  2980. # [20:56] <Optimizer> basically the want to do all that in Firefox
  2981. # [20:56] <@smaug> something like that could be doable but very slow
  2982. # [20:56] <Optimizer> lead me to believe
  2983. # [20:56] <Optimizer> so what it does is :
  2984. # [20:57] <Optimizer> have start end times for composite layer calculations, paint events, recalculate style, and reflow
  2985. # [20:57] <Waldo> ...Qt headers #define slots
  2986. # [20:57] <Waldo> ...
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  2988. # [20:57] <Waldo> and here I thought Windows was the stupid platform
  2989. # [20:57] <Waldo> hmm, QT_NO_KEYWORDS
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  2991. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> You didn't know? :)
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  2993. # [20:58] <Optimizer> qt is the second worst thing after symbian
  2994. # [20:58] <Optimizer> smaug: so how plausible are those observer events ?
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  2996. # [20:59] <Optimizer> (ofcourse paint one is done)
  2997. # [20:59] <msu-cse498-capstone> Hey jaws
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  2999. # [20:59] <msu-cse498-capstone> It's Brandon from MSU's capstone
  3000. # [20:59] * jhammel is now known as jhammel|lunch
  3001. # [20:59] <jaws> msu-cse498-capstone: hey!
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  3003. # [20:59] <Waldo> a descriptive nick :-)
  3004. # [20:59] <msu-cse498-capstone> Yeah :P
  3005. # [21:00] <jaws> lol, yes a very descriptive nick
  3006. # [21:00] <@smaug> Optimizer: dunno about layer stuff, but other stuff is doable. Of course it will slow down things when activated.
  3007. # [21:00] <jaws> msu-cse498-capstone: would you like me to come down to the lab sometime and meet with you in person?
  3008. # [21:00] <msu-cse498-capstone> We'd love that
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  3011. # [21:01] <jaws> ok, let me see...
  3012. # [21:01] <Optimizer> yeah, the only thing that was not in the nick, his name, he told in the introductory line :P
  3013. # [21:01] <Optimizer> smaug: sure, the GC events also have impact, right ? :P
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  3016. # [21:01] <@smaug> Optimizer: not really
  3017. # [21:01] <@smaug> Optimizer: GC and CC happen very rarely
  3018. # [21:01] <@smaug> reflow happens all the time
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  3021. # [21:02] <Optimizer> what about paint flashing ?
  3022. # [21:02] <Optimizer> that is behind a pref
  3023. # [21:02] <jaws> msu-cse498-capstone: when are you free until?
  3024. # [21:02] <@smaug> what about it
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  3026. # [21:03] <Waldo> romaxa: could you point me to these moc files, by chance?
  3027. # [21:03] <Optimizer> I mean, does it have the same impact as GC notifications ?
  3028. # [21:03] <msu-cse498-capstone> We'll be here until around ~5-6, otherwise we'll be in tomorrow from 2:30 until ~5-6
  3029. # [21:03] <@smaug> Waldo: aren't moc files autogenerated
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  3033. # [21:03] <Optimizer> or less, or more. Or if there is some reflow and style recalc notification, will it have lesser impact than this paint flashing thing
  3034. # [21:04] <@smaug> restyle/reflow happens more often than painting
  3035. # [21:05] <@smaug> in general
  3036. # [21:05] <Waldo> smaug: could be, I have no idea :-)
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  3041. # [21:05] <reuben> they are, by qmake
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  3045. # [21:05] <Waldo> smaug: basically in bug 826979 I'm wondering if possibly there's some way to add QT_NO_KEYWORDS everywhere except for the few files that need the keywords
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  3048. # [21:06] <Optimizer> smaug: so they are heavy, but doable. Right ?
  3049. # [21:06] <Waldo> because #undef slots is awful and fragile
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  3052. # [21:06] <@smaug> Optimizer: right
  3053. # [21:06] <@smaug> Optimizer: we could try to notify in some different way
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  3055. # [21:06] <reuben> Waldo, can't you just define QT_NO_KEYWORDS globally and use Q_SLOTS/Q_SIGNALS/Q_EMIT in the files that use them?
  3056. # [21:06] <@smaug> something which is as lightweight as possible
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  3058. # [21:06] <Optimizer> other than notification observer ?
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  3060. # [21:06] <reuben> Waldo, or rather, wouldn't that be easier?
  3061. # [21:07] <Optimizer> what other things do we have ?
  3062. # [21:07] <NeilAway> jlebar: wait, so the mozbrowserasyncscroll event... wasn't async?
  3063. # [21:07] <Waldo> reuben: I think you have mistaken me for someone who has ever used Qt :-)
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  3065. # [21:07] <Waldo> reuben: you could be totally right for all I don't know :-)
  3066. # [21:07] <msu-cse498-capstone> Sorry, forgot to prefix that with your name. jaws: We'll be here until around ~5-6, otherwise we'll be in tomorrow from 2:30 until ~5-6
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  3068. # [21:07] <@smaug> Optimizer: well, collect last data about last x restyle or reflow to some array and pass that array asynchronously to notification observer
  3069. # [21:07] <@smaug> something like that
  3070. # [21:07] <@smaug> something asynchronous
  3071. # [21:08] <Optimizer> is that data stored somewhere ?
  3072. # [21:08] <@smaug> it would need to be
  3073. # [21:08] <@smaug> it is not right now
  3074. # [21:08] <Optimizer> if yes, we can have a timely event that pings 60 times a second if needed
  3075. # [21:08] <@smaug> I don't actually know what kind of data would be useful for your tool
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  3077. # [21:09] <Optimizer> for my tool this much is sufficient
  3078. # [21:09] <@smaug> "this much"
  3079. # [21:09] <Optimizer> but poeple are thing to integrate with debugger
  3080. # [21:09] <@smaug> meaning what
  3081. # [21:09] <@smaug> just notification that reflow has happened?
  3082. # [21:09] <Optimizer> plus the timstamp ofcourse
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  3085. # [21:10] <Optimizer> but if debugger is involved, then something synchronous is needed
  3086. # [21:10] <Optimizer> so that the server could break and catch the stack trace
  3087. # [21:10] <@smaug> well, JS shouldn't run at reflow time
  3088. # [21:10] <@smaug> so need to be careful when to report about the reflow
  3089. # [21:11] <Optimizer> yes, but if we are thinking of sending the event asynchronously, then that approach will not work for debugger
  3090. # [21:11] <@smaug> right
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  3092. # [21:11] <Optimizer> so ideally, for debugger use, just before reflow one notification is required.
  3093. # [21:11] <Optimizer> but that will stop the reflow from happening.
  3094. # [21:11] <Optimizer> paradox!
  3095. # [21:11] <Optimizer> :P
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  3098. # [21:13] <Optimizer> not to mention that that would be even more heavy than just sending a notification
  3099. # [21:13] <@smaug> Optimizer: anyhow, before implementing anything would be good to know the requirements for notifications
  3100. # [21:13] <reuben> Waldo, yea, grepping the qt files only shows 4 uses of slots and 1 of signals, you can use Q_SLOTS/Q_SIGNALS
  3101. # [21:13] <edmorley> akeybl: don't know if r-d have seen bug 828236
  3102. # [21:13] <Optimizer> smaug: bug 453650
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  3105. # [21:14] <@smaug> Optimizer: if we start to add this kinds of notifications to many places, might be good to create something generic API just for this kind of stuff
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  3107. # [21:14] <@smaug> and not use observer service
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  3110. # [21:14] <reuben> Waldo, also Q_EMIT
  3111. # [21:14] <Optimizer> smaug: what different approach can be taken ?
  3112. # [21:15] <Optimizer> to reduce the overhead
  3113. # [21:16] <Waldo> reuben: you are a gentleman and a scholar
  3114. # [21:16] * Waldo updates the bug with all that
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  3116. # [21:16] <Optimizer> I think that if something light weight can be created, debugger support in reflow would be very very good for developers
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  3118. # [21:16] <@smaug> really?
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  3120. # [21:17] <@smaug> I'm not so convinced
  3121. # [21:17] <Optimizer> yes, I think the reflow info in timeline is good, but read only
  3122. # [21:17] <jaws> msu-cse498-capstone: ok, i'll head there
  3123. # [21:17] <jaws> i'll be there in about 20 minutes
  3124. # [21:17] <Optimizer> if debugger is able to capture it, then performance optimizations could be done by the developers in their code
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  3126. # [21:18] <@smaug> Optimizer: why do you need debugger for that
  3127. # [21:18] <msu-cse498-capstone> jaws: excellent, see you soon!
  3128. # [21:18] <Optimizer> it might also help Firefox devs, like profiler is helping now for snappyness
  3129. # [21:18] <@smaug> sounds like something for a profiler
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  3131. # [21:18] <Optimizer> well any one of both will do
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  3133. # [21:18] <Optimizer> profiler is something like a readonly debugger
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  3136. # [21:19] <@smaug> and debugger doesn't tell much about performance
  3137. # [21:19] <Optimizer> true true, I see.
  3138. # [21:19] <Optimizer> so synchronous it is ..
  3139. # [21:20] <Optimizer> can profiler work with the async approach ?
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  3142. # [21:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> mounir: should be fine to re-open now
  3143. # [21:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> edmorley|away, philor: ^
  3144. # [21:21] <@smaug> Optimizer: profiler shouldn't use any kinds of notifications
  3145. # [21:21] <@smaug> Optimizer: profiler just profiles
  3146. # [21:22] <akeybl> thanks edmorley|away, hadn't seen that yet
  3147. # [21:22] <edmorley|away> bhearsum|buildduty: I've request dep builds on inbound tip; are we sure we're good to open rather than wait 20?
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  3149. # [21:22] <Optimizer> what if this is done via direct function callback .. vaguely speaking like . window has a function, you register your callback, and it gets called
  3150. # [21:22] <edmorley|away> akeybl: yw
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  3152. # [21:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> edmorley|away: nagios + IT thinks ftp is fine now, and i agree. totally up to you though
  3153. # [21:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> i don't expect more infra issues, though
  3154. # [21:22] <edmorley|away> ok
  3155. # [21:23] <edmorley|away> 299 unstarred yey
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  3157. # [21:23] <edmorley|away> and that's just on the most recent 10 pushes
  3158. # [21:23] <romaxa> Waldo: you mean autogenerated moc files which Qt creates in compile time?
  3159. # [21:24] <romaxa> Waldo: I tried to define QT_NO_KEYWORDS once but did not get it working... will try again.
  3160. # [21:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4a0d7140eaf - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 827895 - Settings app should not show the session permissions of apps, r=mounir
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  3167. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00175d6d4839 - Wes Johnston - Bug 829198 - Use smaller font-size for context menu items. r=mfinkle
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  3175. # [21:30] <@roc> smaug: ping
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  3178. # [21:31] <khuey> jaws++
  3179. # [21:31] <philor> speaking of hopeless tasks... who can I get excited about the fact that browser-chrome is permaorange with testpilot enabled?
  3180. # [21:32] <gregglind> explain :)
  3181. # [21:32] <gregglind> what does that mean?
  3182. # [21:32] <gregglind> (one thing is to get excited that TP2 should be very well behaved, when it comes this spring)
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  3184. # [21:32] <philor> nightlies on aurora have it enabled and run tests, that's the only place we test with it on, and linux has been hanging in the mochitest-browser-chrome suite since the merge before this week's, now mac and windows both have failures too
  3185. # [21:32] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: when did we fix nullptr to work in C code? I thought it was only available in C++
  3186. # [21:33] * baku|away is now known as baku
  3187. # [21:33] <@smaug> roc: pong
  3188. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, I've been led to believe it does
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  3190. # [21:34] <gregglind> philor, noted. Things are changing in private browsing, and I would be happy to discuss other issues, if you want to set up a vidyo with me.
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  3192. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> Though ehsan suggests differently
  3193. # [21:34] <philor> gregglind: I have a full-time non-Moz job, so what I was actually looking for was someone with a full-time Moz job to just grab the problem :)
  3194. # [21:34] <@roc> can you do a quick review for me?
  3195. # [21:35] <gregglind> philor, noted... not sure I can fix it, but cc me on the bug (if there is one)
  3196. # [21:35] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I don't think that ever worked
  3197. # [21:35] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, my search nullptr C -C++ -C++11 -C++0x -null did not match any documents
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  3206. # [21:38] <@smaug> roc: sure
  3207. # [21:38] <@dbaron> so loading a bug page on bugzilla.mozilla.org spends an awful lot of time in JS GC
  3208. # [21:38] <@dbaron> have we made our JS GC heuristics worse recently?
  3209. # [21:38] <@dbaron> (I have a lot of tabs open, I admit)
  3210. # [21:38] <@smaug> hmm
  3211. # [21:39] <@smaug> CC scheduling changed a bit
  3212. # [21:39] <@smaug> but that shouldn't have affected GC
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  3215. # [21:39] <@dbaron> I think I may well have observed the Firefox process bogging down over time more than it used to
  3216. # [21:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9038e0975bdc - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 826546 - Delay WebGL reftest completion until subsequent rAF - r=vlad
  3217. # [21:40] <sewardj> jlebar: hah. that fixed it.
  3218. # [21:40] <@smaug> dbaron: JS memusage has regressed significantly
  3219. # [21:40] <@roc> I think I might have observed that too
  3220. # [21:40] <sewardj> jlebar: let me see if the alleged bitfield race still exists, then
  3221. # [21:41] <@smaug> dbaron: Bug 820602
  3222. # [21:41] <@roc> smaug: is there a bug filed on that?
  3223. # [21:41] <@dbaron> I'm trying to debug why bugzilla bugs take 15 seconds to load for me
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  3225. # [21:41] <@dbaron> (they take 6 seconds to load in a clean Firefox instance started off a copy of my current sessionstore, so it's not the tab count *alone*)
  3226. # [21:41] <@dbaron> and also about 6 seconds without the sessionstore
  3227. # [21:41] <Callek> dbaron: do you have bugzillatweaks installed?
  3228. # [21:41] <@dbaron> Callek, no
  3229. # [21:41] <@dolske> fwiw they load mostly instantly for me (a second or two to connect, about a second to load)
  3230. # [21:42] <Callek> [/possible obvious thought that I bet you would have thought of]
  3231. # [21:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d0c643ddbae - Ben Turner - Bug 827749 - Aggressively duplicate file handles. r=cjones.
  3232. # [21:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e70316a75be9 - Ben Turner - Bug 828870 - All shared blobs must be immutable. r=khuey.
  3233. # [21:42] <Callek> dbaron: do you have hundreds of saved BMO searches?
  3234. # [21:42] <@dbaron> Callek, I removed them all from my footer; I do have a bunch, though
  3235. # [21:42] <@dbaron> Callek, the actual HTTP request for show_bug.cgi takes about 2s
  3236. # [21:42] <Callek> (note *every* saved search loads as a <link rel> in the header
  3237. # [21:43] <@dbaron> Callek, does that include the ones people shared with me?
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  3239. # [21:43] <Callek> I don't recall on the "shared with me" one
  3240. # [21:43] <@dbaron> Callek, because given the groups I'm in, there are hundreds that are shared with me
  3241. # [21:43] <Callek> I know I have >300 saved searches and it slows down my stuff
  3242. # [21:43] <Callek> let me skim and I can tell you
  3243. # [21:44] <Callek> (I'm in s-g so can easily find a shared-with-me search if its in my header)
  3244. # [21:44] <Callek> dbaron: actually I take back that theory
  3245. # [21:45] <Callek> it looks like glob and dkl have been busy and fixed that bug for me
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  3247. # [21:45] <Callek> wherever I filed it [or maybe there was a dupe somewhere]
  3248. # [21:45] <Callek> its only showing footer displayed searches in the <link tags
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  3256. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e4917d358c5 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 828895 - keyboard navigation in the Library View is bogus.
  3257. # [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/945ed4328628 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 777385 - Support (some) Paris bindings objects as weak map keys. r=peterv
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  3260. # [21:50] <@dbaron> hmm, why does https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/gecko-profiler/ say "Not available for your platform"?
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  3266. # [21:51] <Optimizer> dbaron: which platform ?
  3267. # [21:51] <@smaug> roc: I'm not familiar with GetDetachedSubdocView
  3268. # [21:52] <BenWa> dbaron: poke
  3269. # [21:52] <@smaug> looking some code...
  3270. # [21:52] <BenWa> dbaron: Because you're on linux
  3271. # [21:52] <@dbaron> BenWa, doesn't it at least give me pseudostack profiling on Linux?
  3272. # [21:52] <@dbaron> BenWa, I mean... I've used it before. Does it no longer work on Linux?
  3273. # [21:52] <BenWa> dbaron: Use this version https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/raw/master/geckoprofiler.xpi
  3274. # [21:52] <BenWa> The Linux port has known bugs but it still works
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  3276. # [21:53] <@dbaron> BenWa, ah, ok
  3277. # [21:53] <@dbaron> BenWa, the wiki.m.o page points to AMO...
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  3280. # [21:54] <BenWa> it mentions the pre-release
  3281. # [21:54] <BenWa> We've got patches to used breakpad and are waiting on that for linux support
  3282. # [21:55] <@dbaron> BenWa, it mentions it in the "profiling Firefox mobile" section.
  3283. # [21:55] <BenWa> ahh ok
  3284. # [21:55] <@dbaron> BenWa, perhaps it should mention it in the earlier section too?
  3285. # [21:55] <BenWa> I'll proofread it
  3286. # [21:56] <@dbaron> BenWa, i.e., right under "Running the profiler" in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
  3287. # [21:56] <BenWa> ok, ill update it
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  3297. # [22:00] <@ehsan> roc: ping
  3298. # [22:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b99c87fb77d3 - Josh Matthews - Bug 829043 - Separate wyciwyg cache into app jars. r=michal.novotny
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  3301. # [22:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fb3f83287fb - Josh Matthews - Bug 829043 - Hook up load contexts for remote wyciwyg and ftp channels. r=jduell
  3302. # [22:00] <@roc> hi
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  3304. # [22:00] <@ehsan> hey
  3305. # [22:00] <@ehsan> is it a good time to chat?
  3306. # [22:00] <@dbaron> hmmm, the "Analyze" button in the profiler doesn't seem to do anything
  3307. # [22:01] <@dbaron> (am I supposed to hit it while profiling is running or after stopping?)
  3308. # [22:01] <@roc> ehsan: yes
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  3310. # [22:01] <@ehsan> roc: cool, my room?
  3311. # [22:01] <@dbaron> I managed to figure this out the last time I used the Gecko Profiler, but I seem to have forgotten how to use it again...
  3312. # [22:01] <@gavin> dbaron: after stopping, I think
  3313. # [22:01] <@gavin> the UI is very confusing
  3314. # [22:01] <@dbaron> yeah
  3315. # [22:02] <@dbaron> do repeated Start/Stop pairs add to the existing data or reset the data?
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  3320. # [22:02] <@dbaron> and does the "Profile Restart" button reset the accumulated data?
  3321. # [22:02] <@dbaron> in any case, the "Analyze" button doesn't seem to do anything for me
  3322. # [22:02] <mdas> I'm having issues building mozilla-central on OSX. I don't really know what it's getting upset about, but the last line is "/Users/mdas/Code/obj-ff/config/nsinstall -L /Users/mdas/Code/obj-ff/image/decoders/icon -m 644 "libimgicon.a.desc" "../../../staticlib/components""
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  3324. # [22:02] <mdas> there's more info http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049928
  3325. # [22:02] <mdas> is any one else getting this problem?
  3326. # [22:02] <mdas> I just clobbered and pulled
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  3328. # [22:03] <@dolske> mdas: pastebin more? the error is goign to be further back.
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  3334. # [22:04] <mdas> dolske: oh heh you're right: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049938
  3335. # [22:04] <@dolske> alternative, do a build with -j1 to disable parallelism, so that the failure is mostly-last thing
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  3338. # [22:04] <@smaug> roc: ping
  3339. # [22:04] <@roc> hi
  3340. # [22:04] <mdas> dolske: yeah i still didn't paste the right error...
  3341. # [22:04] <@dbaron> smaug, I suppose it's bad if I have CC stuff in the error console that says my GC took 12s total, and slice 0 had a pause of 5s?
  3342. # [22:04] <@smaug> roc: so about the view
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  3347. # [22:05] <@smaug> dbaron: CC stuff doesn't say anything about GC ;9
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  3349. # [22:05] <@smaug> s/9/)/
  3350. # [22:05] <@smaug> roc: about the view handling
  3351. # [22:05] <mdas> dolske: I found 'em http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2049941 line 495 is the latest one
  3352. # [22:05] <mdas> the -j1 build will take a while
  3353. # [22:06] <vlad> mdas: what weirdo compiler is that?
  3354. # [22:06] <@smaug> roc: do we somehow guarantee that the detached view stays alive?
  3355. # [22:06] <ehsan_> jdm: ping?
  3356. # [22:06] <jdm> ehsan_: yo dawg
  3357. # [22:06] <mdas> vlad: clang?
  3358. # [22:06] <vlad> mdas: ah
  3359. # [22:06] <ehsan_> jdm: can you please take https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828780 ?
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  3361. # [22:07] <jdm> ehsan_: yep
  3362. # [22:07] <ehsan_> jdm: thanks!
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  3368. # [22:08] <@roc> Yes.
  3369. # [22:08] <@roc> This patch isn't changing any of that.
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  3374. # [22:10] <@bz> Is nsPIWindowRoot ever exposed to script?
  3375. # [22:10] <@smaug> roc: yeah, the patch isn't changing it, but I don't see what actually guarantees that.
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  3378. # [22:10] <@smaug> bz: hmm, what is the event target in global key event handlers. Or are those handlers non JS
  3379. # [22:10] <@smaug> can't remember now
  3380. # [22:11] <@smaug> I'm talking about the odd XBL-window-key event listeners
  3381. # [22:11] <@smaug> or some such
  3382. # [22:11] <@dolske> mdas: I've no idea.
  3383. # [22:11] <@smaug> IIRC they the listeners are added to windowroot
  3384. # [22:11] <mjrosenb> bz: so I was at home last week, and I fourd out that this exists: http://scaglietti-bzpharm-main.hgsitebuilder.com/
  3385. # [22:11] <edmorley|away> dbaron: iirc you have to use analyse before you press stop
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  3387. # [22:11] <mjrosenb> although evidently there is more than one
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  3389. # [22:11] <mjrosenb> because I was not in texas
  3390. # [22:12] <@bz> smaug: I guess the real question is... does it have EventTarget.prototype as its proto when exposed to JS?
  3391. # [22:12] <vlad> dbaron, edmorley|away: yes, the "Stop" button should just go away
  3392. # [22:12] <vlad> it really means "disable the profiler"
  3393. # [22:12] <@bz> mjrosenb: heh
  3394. # [22:12] <vlad> not display captured results" (which is what analyze does)
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  3397. # [22:13] <@roc> smaug: nsViews are explicitly managed. So we detach views from their view managers in BeginSwapDocShellsForViews, store them away, and don't ever delete them
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  3399. # [22:13] <@smaug> roc: we don't delete them?
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  3401. # [22:13] <@smaug> like ever
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  3403. # [22:13] <@roc> I mean, until we're done with the stashed presentation
  3404. # [22:13] <@smaug> even if we make, hmm, body.style.display = "none"
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  3406. # [22:14] <@smaug> roc: ah
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  3408. # [22:15] <@dbaron> vlad, but if I have the addon installed, I don't necessarily want it profiling all the time
  3409. # [22:15] <@roc> we detach the views, store them in the frameloader (via SetDetachedSubdocView), and just leave them there. Nothing will delete them because nothing else has an owning reference to them.
  3410. # [22:15] <@smaug> roc: ok, so the feature isn't used in normal mode
  3411. # [22:15] <ehsan_> BenWa: is uploading profiles from cleopatra broken?
  3412. # [22:15] <@roc> it is
  3413. # [22:15] <@roc> this feature is used when reconstructing frames for an <iframe>
  3414. # [22:15] <BenWa> ehsan_: Is the profile over 10MB?
  3415. # [22:15] <@roc> to avoid destroying and recreating the presentation of the subdocument
  3416. # [22:15] <@smaug> so when do we delete the view then?
  3417. # [22:15] <@dbaron> vlad, what do I do to have it installed by not have it fill up memory with profile data constantly?
  3418. # [22:15] <ehsan_> BenWa: not sure
  3419. # [22:15] <mdas> dolske: lol, okay, I'll file a bug in a few. thanks
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  3421. # [22:16] <mak> edmorley|away: so, all that orange on Aurora... looks suspect
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  3423. # [22:16] <ehsan_> roc: still here btw :)
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  3425. # [22:16] <@roc> smaug: in nsHideViewer (executed via AddScriptRunner), unless nsSubdocumentFrame::Init gets called first and rescues the presentation
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  3429. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d932f2172ce2 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 811779 - Enable larger set of reftests on B2G emulators, r=jgriffin
  3430. # [22:18] <@smaug> roc: Hide() deletes the view?
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  3436. # [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9095b0b49905 - Brian Hackett - Bug 829175 - Allow reentering JM code if Ion was compiled for a different OSR point, r=dvander.
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  3439. # [22:20] <@roc> according to the comment in nsHideViewer::Run, calling mFrameLoader->Hide() destroys the presentation
  3440. # [22:20] <ehsan_> BenWa: how do I know whether the profile is over 10 megs, and what can I do to fix this?
  3441. # [22:20] <@smaug> k
  3442. # [22:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d5aa1109267 - Mike Conley - Bug 826999 - Add @2x icons for the Downloads Panel notifications. r=shorlander.
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  3445. # [22:21] <@roc> I got something wrong in my explanation before. What actually deletes the view is its frame's DestroyFrom.
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  3447. # [22:22] <@smaug> roc: that just takes some view and puts it to frameloader
  3448. # [22:23] <@roc> so it's not actually up to the frameloader or nsSubdocumentFrame to destroy any views
  3449. # [22:23] <@roc> all we have to do is make sure we don't keep any dangling references
  3450. # [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42b22f0ab58c - Chris Peterson - Bug 757726 - Part 1: Update about:plugins to use document.createElement() and AddonManager. r=joshmoz
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  3455. # [22:24] <BenWa> ehsan_: RewriteEngine on
  3456. # [22:24] <BenWa> RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10523664/Screenshots/$1 [L,QSA]
  3457. # [22:24] <BenWa> Header set Access-Control-Allow-Origin *
  3458. # [22:25] <@smaug> roc: exactly. So why isn't the pointer in frameloader dangling ?
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  3460. # [22:25] <cers> where does the code for tab groups live?
  3461. # [22:25] <@roc> because we clear it out by calling mFrameLoader->SetDetachedSubdocView(nullptr, nullptr)
  3462. # [22:26] <ehsan_> cers: browser/base/content/tabview
  3463. # [22:26] <@smaug> roc: using a script runner
  3464. # [22:26] <@gavin> cers: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/find?string=tabview
  3465. # [22:26] <@smaug> roc: what is some other stuff runs just before that scriptrunner
  3466. # [22:26] <cers> ehsan_, gavin: thanks
  3467. # [22:26] <@smaug> s/is/if/
  3468. # [22:27] <ehsan_> vladan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789975#c7
  3469. # [22:28] <vladan> ehsan_: good name for the profile ;) can you check the relevant Telemetry probes value?
  3470. # [22:28] <ehsan_> vladan: which values?
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  3474. # [22:29] <@roc> I can't think of anything that would destroy the root view for the subdocument.
  3475. # [22:29] <@smaug> roc: ok. Thanks for clarifying
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  3481. # [22:32] <@smaug> roc: there is always a reflow after NS_FRAME_FIRST_REFLOW ?
  3482. # [22:32] <@smaug> er
  3483. # [22:32] <@smaug> nm
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  3490. # [22:36] <NeilAway> eww, about:plugins used document.write?
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  3492. # [22:36] <ehsan_> roc: hey, should I continue to wait?
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  3494. # [22:37] <@roc> sorry
  3495. # [22:37] <NeilAway> ... so a locale could have run script with chrome privs ...
  3496. # [22:37] <ehsan_> np!
  3497. # [22:37] <@smaug> roc: r+
  3498. # [22:37] <ehsan_> roc: we can try again later if you're busy now
  3499. # [22:37] <@smaug> sorry, took some time
  3500. # [22:38] <@roc> I'm always busy, although it's true this week is exceptional
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  3503. # [22:38] <NeilAway> cpeterson: btw you can set foo.textContent instead of mucking around with appendChild and createTextNode
  3504. # [22:38] <@roc> alright
  3505. # [22:39] <@roc> let's do it
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  3508. # [22:39] <ehsan_> roc: I'm waiting in my vidyo room
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  3511. # [22:40] <vlad> hm, in a thebes layer that has valid region of x=15, y=2200, w=320, h=314 and is 320x314 in size
  3512. # [22:41] <@roc> what do you mean "in size"?
  3513. # [22:41] <NeilAway> bz: now that it's not using document.write any more, should we convert about:plugins to xhtml or doesn't it matter?
  3514. # [22:41] <vlad> transform of y=-2149.. does that mean that the valid region starts at 2200-2149 in the layer, or that x=15 y=2200-2149 is the position in its parent?
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  3516. # [22:42] <@bz> NeilAway: I think it mattered for charset overrides, no?
  3517. # [22:43] <@bz> if I want to flag a bugzilla bug as mentored...
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  3519. # [22:43] <jhammel> [good first bug][lang=c++][mentor=bz]
  3520. # [22:43] <@bz> I do [mentor=bz][lang=c++] or something?
  3521. # [22:43] <@bz> OK
  3522. # [22:43] <jhammel> yeah
  3523. # [22:43] <@bz> What if lang is both C++ and python?
  3524. # [22:43] <jhammel> that i don't know
  3525. # [22:43] <jhammel> two whiteboard entries?
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  3527. # [22:43] * @bz is not sure this one is "good first bug" for that matter
  3528. # [22:43] <@bz> ok
  3529. # [22:43] <jhammel> jdm: ^?
  3530. # [22:43] <jhammel> bz: [good first bug] is optional anyway, aiui
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  3534. # [22:44] <@bz> Thanks
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  3536. # [22:44] <jhammel> but i *think* [lang=c++][lang=python][mentor=bz]
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  3540. # [22:46] <NeilAway> bz: charset overrides?
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  3542. # [22:46] <NeilAway> bz: you mean we should use xhtml because it forces utf8?
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  3548. # [22:47] <philor> ehsan_: this should be fun, I think https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23bb4a03ef34 has Windows xpcshell bustage, which should rise up out of the ftp.m.o red in another two or three hours
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  3550. # [22:48] <mak> jdm: orange on your push
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  3552. # [22:48] <jdm> grumble
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  3556. # [22:49] <jdm> ohshit
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  3561. # [22:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86d9fdfe93b3 - Josh Matthews - Backed out changeset 4fb3f83287fb (bug 829043)
  3562. # [22:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1b3fd0a0195 - Josh Matthews - Backed out changeset b99c87fb77d3 (bug 829043)
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  3580. # [22:56] <bsmedberg> gerv: where should I filed bugs with 500 errors returned by api-dev.bugzilla.mozilla.org/1.2 ?
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  3585. # [22:56] <gerv> bsmedberg: Webtools/BzAPI
  3586. # [22:57] <gerv> Thanks :-)
  3587. # [22:57] <gerv> bsmedberg: Is this an emergency?
  3588. # [22:57] <gerv> Or just a very specific set of circumstances?
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  3590. # [22:57] <gerv> (10pm here)
  3591. # [22:58] <bsmedberg> gerv: not an emergency, just a query that's not working
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  3593. # [22:58] <gerv> OK.
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  3597. # [23:00] <@smaug> mccr8: hmm, I wonder if library window leaks
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  3599. # [23:00] <mccr8> smaug: what do you mean by "library window"?
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  3602. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d1152cf727e - Vincent Chang - Bug 828909 - Sanitize Wi-Fi hotspot username and password r=mrbkap
  3603. # [23:01] <@smaug> mccr8: "show all bookmarks"
  3604. # [23:01] <mccr8> ah ok
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  3606. # [23:01] <mccr8> I don't use bookmarks. :)
  3607. # [23:01] <@smaug> mccr8: it has downloads too nowadays
  3608. # [23:01] <@smaug> which is why I opened it earlier today
  3609. # [23:01] <@smaug> no documents in the graph
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  3611. # [23:02] <@smaug> but something...
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  3613. # [23:02] <mccr8> ah
  3614. # [23:02] <@smaug> DPV_nodeAnnotationChanged functions etc
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  3616. # [23:03] <@smaug> mak: ^
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  3618. # [23:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b8af725f322 - Mark Banner - Bug 827303 - Firefox core and crypto services components assume services/sync is built. Move registrations out of services/sync. r=gps
  3619. # [23:03] <mak> smaug: tests don't seem to point out leaks... it's possible there's something we missed though
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  3621. # [23:04] <@smaug> mak: I don't see any documents leaked
  3622. # [23:04] <mak> smaug: if you have something to point at, please file a bug so we can investigate on it
  3623. # [23:04] <@smaug> just some xul elements and js stuff
  3624. # [23:04] <mak> hm
  3625. # [23:04] <@smaug> mak: k
  3626. # [23:04] <mak> there's some hack in that view honestly
  3627. # [23:04] <@smaug> PDV_* functions
  3628. # [23:05] <mak> yes it's the Library downloads view
  3629. # [23:05] <@smaug> elements from chrome://browser/content/places/places.xul
  3630. # [23:05] <@smaug> ok, filing a bug
  3631. # [23:05] <mak> anything you can tell us will be useful (included how to test for the leak)
  3632. # [23:06] <mak> thanks
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  3667. # [23:20] <ehsan_> philor: ok I'll back it out
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  3669. # [23:21] <philor> ehsan_: I don't really know for sure, it's just the only thing that mentions telemetry in the neighborhood
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  3671. # [23:21] <ehsan_> philor: that's fine, we'll find out after the backout I guess
  3672. # [23:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3253c4a1f213 - Randell Jesup - Bug 828154: reapply local patches to netwerk/sctp/src rs=mcmanus
  3673. # [23:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/715e21580ed2 - Randell Jesup - Bug 828154: update usrsctp to revision 8397 from upstream rs=mcmanus
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  3705. # [23:35] <Optimizer> did the behavior of dom.send_after_paint_to_content pref change lately
  3706. # [23:35] <Optimizer> (as in Firefox 20)
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  3717. # [23:42] <@bz> hmm
  3718. # [23:42] <@bz> I take it pushing to inbound is better done some other time?
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  3732. # [23:46] <philor> bz: generally speaking, yeah, but as far as "I'm going to push during the US daytime and during this week" now's okay, there's no bustage on the tip that's known so far
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  3734. # [23:46] <Optimizer> after setting did the pref dom.send_after_paint_to_content to true, my chrome paint events are getting forwarded to all the content windows
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  3736. # [23:46] <Optimizer> did the pref became true to its meaning recently ?
  3737. # [23:46] <Optimizer> earlier only the content ones used to get forwarded
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  3743. # [23:48] <@bz> philor: oh, ok
  3744. # [23:48] <@bz> philor: things were looking orangish, but maybe it's all backed out
  3745. # [23:49] <philor> that's our theory!
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