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# Session Start: Fri Jan 11 00:00:00 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:06] <mjrosenb> hopefully this is the last time I need to ask this...
# [00:07] <mjrosenb> nevermind, not actually having a problem.
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# [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2983ba3b514f - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 829277: Limit the number of instructions that the truncation optimization can work on. (r=dvander)
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# [00:11] <jhammel> gps: so i'm a bit vague on something....are we on python 2.7 across the board (minus talos)?
# [00:11] <gps> jhammel: ideally. there might be a few straglers on test machines
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# [00:11] <gps> if you see any, file a bug against RelEng
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# [00:12] <jhammel> gps: k, just wondering if i'm free to refactor a bunch of legacy code
# [00:12] <gps> jhammel: the deal was by moving the build to require 2.7, we could require 2.7 *anywhere* as soon as infra actually runs on 2.7
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# [00:13] <calatalee> Hello
# [00:13] <gps> if you get a try run to pass requiring 2.7, it's safe to land
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# [00:15] <BenWa> ehsan_: build of my bugzillaJS fork (inline TBPL results) people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/bugzillajs.xpi
# [00:15] <BenWa> http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/bugzillajs.xpi
# [00:15] <ehsan_> thanks...
# [00:15] <ehsan_> let me try it out
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# [00:17] <BenWa> ehsan_: Check it out here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822135#c11
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# [00:19] <ehsan_> BenWa: https://twitter.com/ehsanakhgari/status/289511762863198208
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# [00:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaab0e962e4d - Trevor Saunders - bug 829288 - fix some toolkit/ warnings r=ehsan
# [00:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9134833700b - Trevor Saunders - bug 829288 - fix layout/ warnings on mingw r=dholbert
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# [00:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/deab61ea49b6 - Trevor Saunders - bug 829288 - fix warnings under browser/ r=gavin
# [00:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab93edfbb1ea - Trevor Saunders - bug 829288 - fix a bunch of mingw warnings in xpcom/ r=ehsan
# [00:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b584bc588b40 - Trevor Saunders - bug 829288 - remove extra ';'s in content/ r=ehsan
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# [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a88ed3a3ace - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 827816 - Wrong timezone offset for UK and Ireland as they had year-round DST from 1969-1971, r=brendan, r=gal
# [00:26] <glandium> who is in charge of bonsai? I'm getting error 500 on cvs blame
# [00:26] <philor> reed is
# [00:27] <philor> in theory, IT, but they're all too young to remember it even exists, you need a graybeard
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# [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31d8d897cf4b - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 823423 - Don't send a11y scroll or announcement events if we a11y is not officially enabled. r=blassey
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# [00:30] <dmose> it's been an awfully long time since mozilla-inbound has seen any sort of build or test results
# [00:30] <dmose> any chance it's busted again?
# [00:31] <philor> it is
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# [00:32] <dmose> :-(
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# [00:33] <dmose> philor: is there a prognosis?
# [00:33] <mak> oops, that explains why Aurora was not showing new results
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# [00:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0481a14279d3 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 828247 - Library downloads view does not show the end time for completed downloads.
# [00:34] <philor> well played, sneaking that in before I could close trees :)
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# [00:34] <mak> I'm an expert
# [00:34] <dmose> heh
# [00:35] <mak> philor: btw, I still can't see what are those bc failures on Aurora... expected somehow?
# [00:35] * njn loves Stack Overflow
# [00:36] <AutomatedTester> njn: because its repetitive?
# [00:36] <philor> mak: you've always wanted to work on TestPilot, right?
# [00:36] <mak> humm, not that I'm aware of
# [00:36] <njn> AutomatedTester: because I can type "how to do X" into Google and get an answer from Stack Overflow, for *many* values of X
# [00:36] <AutomatedTester> njn: that is good for
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# [00:37] <philor> the linux ones, which have been permaorange since 19 landed on aurora 6 weeks ago, smell like testpilot eating focus; the mac and windows ones which are new with 20 on aurora, dunno
# [00:37] <AutomatedTester> and the repetition in questions means you get different flavours
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# [00:43] <mak> philor: fwiw results re-appeared in Aurora
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# [00:45] <sfink> stackoverflow.com
# [00:46] <jrmuizel> philor: I'm planing on backing something out of the closed trees
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# [00:47] <jst> jrmuizel: hi there... any more thoughts on the b2g blocker you're working on?
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# [00:48] <jrmuizel> jst: mattwoodrow has a patch that we're hoping fixes it
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# [00:48] <jst> jrmuizel: nice!
# [00:48] <mattwoodrow> I think it definitely fixes it, it just broke android in exchange
# [00:48] <mattwoodrow> seemed like a fair deal to me...
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# [00:48] <jrmuizel> jst: but the build infrastructure is not producing try results
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# [00:48] <jst> yeah... :(
# [00:49] <philor> jrmuizel: it's probably getting close to being willing to show results, if it has produced them
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# [00:49] <dmose> jrmuizel: might your back out fix android on mozilla-inbound?
# [00:49] <dmose> or are these two different things?
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# [00:49] <jrmuizel> dmose: depends what the problem is?
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# [00:50] <dmose> jrmuizel: one problem is running mochitests locally, but now that i think about it, i suspect a local config problem
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# [00:50] <jrmuizel> dmose: images currently show up as black
# [00:50] <dmose> jrmuizel: another is an audio problem
# [00:50] <jrmuizel> dmose: it fixes that
# [00:50] <dmose> ok, that's neither of these
# [00:50] <dmose> thanks
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# [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ebd6c54778d - Jeff Muizelaar - Backout bug 829035 (9da8f50d3750) because of bug 829335
# [00:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51c998dda383 - Jeff Muizelaar - Backout bug 828789 (bb755890ec69) because of bug 829335
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# [01:03] <Waldo> romaxa: good, thanks
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# [01:19] <philor> reopened, for your push-and-go-home pleasure
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# [01:30] <philor> mjrosenb: busted
# [01:31] <mjrosenb> philor: :(
# [01:31] <philor> that's a mighty pretty expected/actual, too
# [01:31] <philor> I'll let someone with better eyes pick out what's failing :)
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# [01:36] <philor> only 100 unstarred failures!
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# [01:46] <mjrosenb> philor: ok, I figured out what was wrong... but I assume that it has already been backed out.
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# [02:01] <taras> is the bugzilla api down?
# [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67f60ef5c92f - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 818023 - fun_getProperty: Use non-buitin script iterator. r=waldo
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# [02:02] <gkw> anybody able to access developer.mozilla.org
# [02:02] <gkw> ?
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# [02:03] <lizzard> taras: i'm taking a look
# [02:03] <cers> gkw: access, yes
# [02:03] <lizzard> gkw: i can access developer.mozilla.org, are you still having problems?
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# [02:04] <gkw> i can't access any website on this computer. strange. let me replug
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# [02:05] <lizzard> taras: I am having trouble reaching https://api-dev.bugzilla.mozilla.org/latest , yeah
# [02:05] <taras> thanks
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# [02:20] <mjrosenb> ok, I have a fix for the tbpl orange
# [02:20] <@dbaron> yeah, bugzilla API broken for me too
# [02:20] <mjrosenb> people shouldn't back that out :-p
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# [02:22] <lizzard> i filed it as a bug and will go poke around till I find someone to fix it : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829380
# [02:22] <lizzard> ^ taras
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# [02:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/989c4f5cc774 - Marty Rosenberg - When merging add nodes, a truncated node and an untraced node should be untruncated (fix oranges, no bug, r=dvander)
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# [02:25] <philor> I'm so glad someone else gets to poke at that hornet's nest :D
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# [03:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa88bbeed9b1 - Terrence Cole - Bug 829372 - Don't clobber non-pointer-sized fields in root analysis; r=sfink
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# [03:20] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
# [03:20] <jdm> ehsan: pong
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# [03:20] <@ehsan> jdm: can you please stop questioning my sanity, and being right in doing so?
# [03:20] <@ehsan> :(
# [03:20] <jdm> that is a... complicated request
# [03:21] <@ehsan> jdm: so... what shall we do here?
# [03:21] <jdm> ehsan: this is the hidden window children?
# [03:21] <@ehsan> jdm: yep
# [03:21] <@ehsan> nice guess :P
# [03:22] <jdm> one solution is to count the hidden window children every time we need to check the number
# [03:22] <@ehsan> jdm: by traversing the docshell tree?
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# [03:22] <jdm> another is to keep a global count of its children by comparing the root item agains the hidden window one
# [03:22] <@ehsan> I don't like either of these :/
# [03:23] <jdm> yeah, me either
# [03:24] <@ehsan> the second solution is O(depth of tree)
# [03:24] <@ehsan> the first one is the same, but implicitly
# [03:24] <@ehsan> hrm
# [03:24] <@ehsan> jdm: there's another option, perhaps
# [03:25] <@ehsan> storing a flag on the docshell, something like "don't give a crap about the docshell count here"
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# [03:25] <@ehsan> which we can set on the hidden window docshell
# [03:25] <jdm> oh, true
# [03:25] <@ehsan> and make it propagate down to children
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# [03:25] <jdm> that one pleases me more
# [03:25] <@ehsan> that will at least not require tree traversal
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# [03:25] <@ehsan> but man, I can't even think of what I would call it... :(
# [03:26] <@ehsan> mDontGiveACrap?
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# [03:26] <darktrojan> mCrapsGiven = 0
# [03:26] <jdm> mIsCountablyPrivate
# [03:26] <@ehsan> darktrojan: it should be a boolean
# [03:26] <@ehsan> jdm: mAreYouKidding?
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# [03:26] <@ehsan> hrm
# [03:26] <darktrojan> oh
# [03:27] <@ehsan> jdm: so... how would you like to write that patch? :)
# [03:27] * @ehsan promises a fast review
# [03:27] <jdm> ehsan: sure
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# [03:27] <jdm> probably not tomorrow
# [03:27] <jdm> (today)
# [03:27] <@ehsan> jdm: thanks, and sorry, my head is too much down into decoding audio at this point
# [03:28] <@ehsan> jdm: sounds good
# [03:28] <jdm> ehsan: no worries. I've been appreciating you running with the various mop up tasks recently.
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# [03:28] <@bz> Man
# [03:28] <@ehsan> :)
# [03:28] * @bz is all the way down the rabbit hole now. :(
# [03:28] <@bz> XPCWrappedJS + XBL + XPCConvert
# [03:28] <@bz> + WebIDL bindings
# [03:28] <jdm> oh geeze
# [03:28] <@bz> + Window.
# [03:28] <@bz> I can describe the gory details if you care. ;)
# [03:28] <jdm> bz we can stage an intervention if you want
# [03:29] <jdm> send you directly to frontend JS
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# [03:29] <@bz> But let's just say there's a XULElement that's pretending to be an nsIDOMEventListener via XBL
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# [03:29] <@bz> jdm: sadly, this is work that needs to happen
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# [03:29] <@bz> jdm: so I need to figure out how to make it work....
# [03:29] * @bz thinks XPCWrappedJS is just slightly broken here...
# [03:29] <@bz> But I'm not sure yet how to fix it
# [03:30] <@ehsan> bz: I don't see anything wrong with the mixture that you're describing
# [03:30] <@ehsan> sounds like a piece of cake!
# [03:30] <@bz> ehsan: Oh, also the aggregation stuff nsXPCWrappedJS does seems key
# [03:30] <jdm> a piece of cake containing shards of glass
# [03:31] <@bz> ehsan: where sometimes it aggregates with an nsISupports
# [03:31] <@bz> ehsan: Still trying to figure out what the hell that's about. ;)
# [03:31] <@ehsan> s/glass/poisoned glass/
# [03:31] <@bz> lol
# [03:31] <@ehsan> bz: still don't see what your problem is!
# [03:31] <@bz> All I wanted was to convert the EventTarget methods on Window to WebIDL
# [03:31] <@bz> ehsan: oh, that's easy
# [03:31] <@bz> ehsan: calling alert() asserts. ;)
# [03:31] <@ehsan> who cares? ;)
# [03:32] <@ehsan> our users (fortunately) don't run debug builds
# [03:32] <@bz> ehsan: lol
# [03:32] <@ehsan> just comment out the assert
# [03:32] <@ehsan> and we'll pretend this conversation never happened
# [03:32] <@ehsan> oh shoot
# [03:32] <@ehsan> wait
# [03:32] <@bz> ehsan: I'd like to make sure I'm not intrudicing a security bug first, just in case. ;)
# [03:32] <@ehsan> is this channel public?
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# [03:32] <@bz> ehsan: It's logged too
# [03:32] <@ehsan> ahem
# [03:32] <@ehsan> security bugs...
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# [03:32] <@ehsan> ok
# [03:33] <@ehsan> maybe, just *maybe* there's something wrong here
# [03:33] <jdm> ladies and gentlement, I give you Ehsan Akhgari: Senior Software Products Developer
# [03:33] <@ehsan> jdm: gentelment?
# [03:33] <@ehsan> FAIL!
# [03:33] <jdm> hush
# [03:33] <tbsaunde> philor: recognize the b-c failure in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6590c8d4ea3e ?
# [03:33] <@bz> gentlemints?
# [03:33] <@bz> So like the oppposite of Altoids?
# [03:34] * @ehsan is never sure what Software Products Developer even means
# [03:34] <Waldo> is somebody questioning the spelling ability of programmers?
# [03:34] <@bz> ok
# [03:34] <@bz> can I get a sanity check here, please?
# [03:34] <@ehsan> <textarea spellcheck=whatever/>
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# [03:34] <@ehsan> sure
# [03:34] <@bz> I'm in this code: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/prompts/content/tabprompts.xml#156
# [03:34] <@bz> waldo: you too, please
# [03:34] <@bz> dump("Window: " + window + "\n");
# [03:34] <@bz> dump("Window.location: " + window.location + "\n");
# [03:34] <@bz> dump("Arg Window: " + this.args.domWindow + "\n");
# [03:34] <@bz> dump("Arg Window location: " + this.args.domWindow.location + "\n");
# [03:34] <@bz> Dumps out:
# [03:35] <Waldo> bz: you're not sane, give up :-)
# [03:35] <@bz> Window: [object ChromeWindow]
# [03:35] <@bz> Window.location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
# [03:35] <@bz> Arg Window: [object Window]
# [03:35] <@bz> Arg Window location: about:blank
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# [03:35] <@bz> So that all makes sense
# [03:35] <@bz> "window" is the browser
# [03:35] <@ehsan> ok
# [03:35] <@bz> this.args.domWindow is the web page
# [03:35] <@ehsan> so far so good
# [03:35] <@bz> all good so far
# [03:35] <@bz> Now I breakpoint at nsGlobalWindow::AddEventListener
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# [03:36] <@ehsan> as you would
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# [03:36] <@bz> and I skip the first two calls, until I get to the call that has aType == "pagehide"
# [03:36] <@ehsan> ok
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# [03:36] <@bz> Ah, nevermind
# [03:36] * @bz finally sees the part he was looking for
# [03:36] <@bz> As you were. ;)
# [03:36] <Waldo> glad to help!
# [03:36] <@ehsan> bz: you're welcome :P
# [03:37] <Waldo> next time just let me know I can multitask while helping ;-)
# [03:37] <@bz> js::CrossCompartmentWrapper::call
# [03:37] <@bz> lol
# [03:37] <@bz> I couldn't find where we were crossing the compartment boundary
# [03:37] * @ehsan was just about to say exactly that
# [03:37] <@bz> which should not have been possible
# [03:37] <@bz> But now I know we're not xrayed
# [03:37] <@bz> so I just need to figure out wtf this code is doing. ;)
# [03:37] <@ehsan> well
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# [03:37] <@ehsan> ask dolske
# [03:37] <@ehsan> I think he wrote it (iirc)
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# [03:38] <@bz> no, no
# [03:38] <@bz> The xbl I get
# [03:39] <@bz> Now I need to sort out the quickstubs/bindings/etc angle
# [03:39] <@ehsan> I see
# [03:39] <@ehsan> usually I would suggest `ask bz'
# [03:39] <@bz> Why my ChromeWindow has my quickstubs but my Window does not
# [03:39] <@ehsan> but in this case...
# [03:39] <@bz> Thanks.
# [03:39] <@bz> I'm good.
# [03:39] <@bz> Though it might mostly happen tomorrow. ;)
# [03:39] <@ehsan> that's fair
# [03:39] <@ehsan> sometimes looking at things another time helps
# [03:39] <@bz> I might also mail Peter
# [03:39] <@bz> well
# [03:40] <@bz> I'm also just tired.
# [03:40] <@bz> But really, there are two somewhat separate issues now:
# [03:40] <@bz> 1) Why the hell am I calling the XPCOM addEventListener
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# [03:40] <Mavericks> this - > "sometimes looking at things another time helps" - i'm glad not the only one thinking tht way
# [03:40] <@bz> 2) How do I fix this XPCWrappedJS idiocy that I know can be triggered in other ways
# [03:40] <@ehsan> Mavericks: that's always the case for me
# [03:40] <@bz> So I've gone from one problem ("crap is asserting") to two.
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# [03:41] <@bz> But they're starting to look tractable!
# [03:41] <@ehsan> bz: you're calling the xpcom addEventListener? o_O?
# [03:41] <@bz> ehsan: well
# [03:41] <@bz> the call on this.args.domWindow does
# [03:41] <@ehsan> yeah that's what I mean
# [03:41] <@ehsan> still, o_O
# [03:41] <@bz> Well
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# [03:41] <@bz> Why o_O ?
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# [03:42] <@ehsan> are you not supposed to call the webidl version?
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# [03:42] <@ehsan> or have we not moved window yet?
# [03:42] <@bz> first, we haven't moved window
# [03:42] <@bz> That's on the one hand.
# [03:42] <@ehsan> oh
# [03:42] <@ehsan> ok!
# [03:42] <heycam> njn, ping
# [03:42] <@bz> But on the other hand, my local tree has EventTarget quickstubs with WebIDL methods.
# [03:42] <njn> heycam: pong
# [03:43] <@bz> On the gripping hand, it's only working for the same-compartment access.
# [03:43] * @bz tests that theory by writing testcases
# [03:43] <heycam> njn, hey. do you know if it's possible to compare two callgrind outputs to see where a performance regression came in?
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# [03:43] <njn> heycam: callgrind, not that I know of. Cachegrind, yes -- there's a cd_diff tool
# [03:44] * @ehsan goes back to figure out what causes his decoding stuff to not work
# [03:44] <njn> heycam: sorry, "cg_diff"
# [03:44] <njn> heycam: I've used it very successfully in the past
# [03:44] <heycam> njn, aha -- does cachegrind record similar information?
# [03:44] <heycam> njn, i.e. runtime approximation via instruction counts or something?
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# [03:44] <njn> yes, basically the same but without call stacks
# [03:44] <njn> just line-by-line info
# [03:45] <heycam> I se
# [03:45] <heycam> *see
# [03:45] <njn> heycam: http://www.valgrind.org/docs/manual/cg-manual.html#cg-manual.cg_diff
# [03:46] <heycam> njn, cool, I'll try that. thanks.
# [03:46] <njn> np
# [03:46] <njn> heycam: that was an easy one :)
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# [03:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d0aa0231e37 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 818575 - Make TransformShadowTree transform all descendant scrollable layers instead of just the first. r=roc
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# [03:49] <njn> heycam: if you just want instructoin counts, set --cache-sim=no, it'll run faster
# [03:50] <heycam> njn, ok
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# [03:54] <tbsaunde> philor|away: tbh I"m not sure
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# [03:55] <decoder> gps: landed the jit-test patch, but now it's slower again than it was in the try run... maybe ill implement your addition tomorrow :)
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# [04:05] <@bz> xpc::XrayWrapper
# [04:06] <@bz> xpc::XrayWrapper<js::CrossCompartmentWrapper, xpc::XPCWrappedNativeXrayTraits>
# [04:06] <@bz> OK, mystery explained
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# [04:06] <@bz> Now the question is what I do about it
# [04:06] * @bz mails Peter, just so he can get his thoughts in order
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# [04:08] <@roc> I have 642MB in the [System Principal] JS compartment
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# [04:08] <@roc> that seems excessive
# [04:09] <@roc> njn: any ideas how I can debug that?
# [04:09] * @bz has 472MB in the form og 153 tiny window-objects
# [04:10] <njn> roc: can you copy+paste the full sub-tree?
# [04:10] <@bz> And 596MB heap-unclassified
# [04:10] <@bz> though I may not have the orphan reporter fix yet...
# [04:10] <@bz> Me is on Jan 8 nightly
# [04:10] <ewong> njn ping
# [04:10] <njn> ewong: I'm popular right now :)
# [04:10] <@bz> Also, 50MB in 286 tiny system compartments
# [04:11] <ewong> njn I'm confused.. bug #826571 ?
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# [04:11] <ewong> did I miss something?
# [04:12] <@bz> btw, there is a recent spate of people who want to push a new standards thing...
# [04:12] <njn> ewong: sorry, I rectified it in follow-up comments
# [04:12] <@bz> submitting patches to both us and WebKit
# [04:12] <@bz> This is a good sign. ;)
# [04:12] <ewong> njn ok.. thanks..
# [04:12] <@roc> hmm, disabling the profiler addon and minimizing memory usage reduced that a lot
# [04:12] <@roc> njn: another question, is it normal on Windows for
# [04:12] <ewong> njn thanks for also reminding me to close that bug .. forgot
# [04:12] <@roc> "private bytes" to be hundreds of megabytes more than "explicit" allocations in about:memory?
# [04:13] <@bz> heh
# [04:13] * @bz just got very confusing bugmail, then matched it up with this channel. ;)
# [04:13] <ewong> heh
# [04:13] <njn> bz: sorry; I un-CC'd you
# [04:13] <Waldo> bz: like, web developers or something who want an itch scratched in the specs, and figure the easy way is to get browsers to implement it in parallel to spec-proposing it, or something?
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# [04:14] <njn> ewong: my master plan is exposed
# [04:14] <@roc> 300MB of unused-arenas doesn't sound good
# [04:14] <@roc> njn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2050667
# [04:15] <ewong> njn :D
# [04:15] <Waldo> mattwoodrow: so your patch is adding a duplicate/second splay tree implementation, rather than moving the existing one? not that I'm necessarily opposed, but if so we need to figure out a path to converging on a single impl
# [04:15] <mattwoodrow> Waldo: Yeah, I didn't really want to block this patch on js/ changes
# [04:15] <njn> roc: mega fragmentation
# [04:16] <mattwoodrow> We should file a follow-up to do that
# [04:16] <Waldo> hmm
# [04:16] <@bz> Waldo: or like Adobe employees, but yes. ;)
# [04:16] <njn> roc: how old is the session?
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# [04:16] <@roc> less than a week I think
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# [04:17] <@roc> 100MB of decommitted-arenas too
# [04:17] <@roc> and 48MB of unused-chunks
# [04:17] <@roc> and 9MB of chunk-admin
# [04:18] <@roc> so gc-heap contains only stuff that's not real data?
# [04:18] <njn> roc: the unused-chunks should disappear soon
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# [04:18] <@roc> you mean soon as in a patch that will land soon, or soon as in if I wait long enough something will clean them up in this session?
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# [04:19] * @roc should read the tooltips more
# [04:19] <njn> roc: the latter, e.g. when GC runs
# [04:20] <njn> roc: js-non-window/gc-heap is just non-useful data, correct
# [04:20] <@roc> so it looks like out of 531MB of "js-non-window", at least 457MB is basically unused
# [04:20] <@roc> "ouch"
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# [04:20] <njn> roc: i.e. stuff that doesn't belong to a compartment
# [04:20] <njn> roc: yeah. like I said, the unused-arenas is fragmentation
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# [04:20] <njn> the decommited stuff doesn't matter that much, because it's decommitted
# [04:21] <njn> roc: this is why generational GC will be wonderful
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# [04:23] <@roc> what about my other question? Is it normal for private-bytes to vastly exceed "explicit"?
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# [04:25] <gps> decoder: well, it can't be any slower than running serially! also, not all build machines are equal
# [04:25] <@roc> hmm
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# [04:26] <@roc> doing an explicit CC seemed to fix all the js-non-window gc-heap stuff
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# [04:26] <njn> roc: sorry, I missed that... I don't know much about private bytes. The tooltip suggest it might include code
# [04:26] <@roc> 50MB went away and most of the rest turned into decomitted-arenas
# [04:26] <@roc> is that expected?
# [04:27] <@roc> why didn't that happen earlier, and automatically?
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# [04:27] <@roc> especially clicking on the "minimize memory usage button"?
# [04:27] <njn> roc: not sure. There are periodic GCs that do extra cleaning up, e.g. the decommitting
# [04:28] <njn> roc: maybe you got one of them
# [04:28] <njn> roc: private bytes looks to include static data, too
# [04:28] <njn> roc: so the fact it is bigger than explicit seems reasonable
# [04:28] <@roc> I kinda doubt I got really lucky with periodic GC
# [04:29] <@roc> this session has been sluggish for along time, now it feels fixed
# [04:29] * njn shrugs
# [04:29] <@roc> is it possible we're not CCing automatically when we should?
# [04:29] <njn> roc: the CC button just does a vanilla CC
# [04:29] <njn> roc: anything's possible, but I'm no CC expert
# [04:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0831c937f066 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 821329 Set charCode of keypress event when TextInputHandler::InsertText() is called without native key event r=smichaud
# [04:32] <@roc> dbaron was saying things were more sluggish for him than usual. dbaron: you might want to try an explicit CC to see if that fixes things
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# [04:32] <@dbaron> roc, there's a button for that?
# [04:32] <@dbaron> roc, in about:memory?
# [04:32] <@roc> yes
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# [04:33] <@roc> njn: thanks for the tips, anyway
# [04:33] <njn> roc: np
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# [04:34] <@dbaron> yeah, today my Firefox instance has gotten sluggish enough that Ubuntu is graying it out pretty frequently for not handling its event queue
# [04:35] <@dbaron> boy, I think that CC took about 20 seconds
# [04:35] <@bz> dbaron: is this a debug build or opt?
# [04:35] <@dbaron> and indeed, I think things are a good bit snappier now
# [04:35] <@dbaron> debug
# [04:36] <@dbaron> what's all this MOZ_EVENT_TRACE stuff in my stdout?
# [04:36] <@dbaron> is this because I had the gecko profiler on briefly?
# [04:36] <decoder> gps: aah i didnt know that. I thought they would be all equal. but i almost finished implementing your suggestion. afterall it was a lot easier than i thought AND it looks cleaner. thanks!
# [04:36] <@roc> I think we may have a bug where we aren't running CC when we need to
# [04:36] <@roc> or something
# [04:36] <decoder> gps: besides that, what better stuff could you do at 4:30am
# [04:36] <decoder> ^_^
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# [04:37] <njn> roc: I wonder if bug 820602 is related
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# [04:38] <decoder> lolsleep
# [04:38] <decoder> ^^
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# [04:38] <decoder> but yea, ill head to bed in a few
# [04:40] <@roc> ok great, now about:memory is broken
# [04:40] <@roc> and "new window"
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# [04:44] <njn> roc: define "broken"?
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# [04:45] <@roc> about:memory is a blank page
# [04:46] <@roc> "new window" does nothing
# [04:46] <@roc> shift-ctrl-K to bring up dev tools opens a pane which is blank
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# [04:47] <njn> roc: does the error console work?
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# [04:48] <@roc> nope
# [04:48] <@roc> this is an interesting state I've never seen before
# [04:49] <@roc> new tab works and normal pages load in it
# [04:49] <njn> how exciting
# [04:49] <njn> roc: this is when normal people restart their browser :)
# [04:50] <@roc> it's getting better and better
# [04:50] <@roc> now one of my windows isn't responding to any events
# [04:50] <@roc> but the other windows are still working
# [04:51] <JonathanS> roc, i am sorry for ping you for this. http://docs.gstreamer.com/display/GstSDK/Installing+on+Mac+OS+X this is a huge framework.
# [04:52] <@roc> what has that to do with me?
# [04:53] <JonathanS> roc, you can use that gstreamer framework for mac os x like H.264 and other video codec.
# [04:53] <@dbaron> so if hitting the [CC] button makes my firefox substantially more responsive... does that point to problems in CC scheduling?
# [04:53] <@roc> we have other plans for Mac that don't require GStreamer
# [04:53] <@roc> dbaron: hence the bug I just filed
# [04:54] <@roc> and CCed you on
# [04:54] <@dbaron> oh, indeed, there was bugmail in between (Secure bug NNNNNN updated) and (Secure bug MMMMMM updated)
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# [04:55] <JonathanS> I do aware that you wouldn't use the QTKit framework.
# [04:56] <@dbaron> roc, I'm not sure how much better it got, though... I'm still seeing 5s GC pauses
# [04:57] <ewong> in *.properties.. what's the term for the string on the left of the = and what's the term for the value on the right of the = ?
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# [04:57] <JonathanS> key=value?
# [04:57] <ewong> JonathanS: thanks!
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# [04:58] <ewong> so if I change the value, I need to change the key?
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# [04:58] <heycam> ewong, yes, so localisers know to re-translate. (so dbaron keeps reminding me when I forget to do it.)
# [04:58] <ewong> heycam ok. thanks!
# [04:58] <doublec> JonathanS: bug 801521 covers decoding on mac os x for h.264
# [04:59] <doublec> JonathanS: bug 799318 is the tracking bug for desktop implementation of h.264 decoding
# [04:59] <JonathanS> doublec, some how I voted for it.
# [05:01] <doublec> JonathanS: I think it's also possible to use the gstreamer backend with gstreamer for mac os x installed but that's not the plan
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# [05:01] <JonathanS> doublec, I know that from roc. Gstreamer framework is HUGE.
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# [05:03] <@roc> arrrgh, nsTArray-containing-nsAutoTArrays stabs me in the pancreas again
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# [05:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b659dc17b164 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 826148 - Part 1: JSFunction flag and interpreter changes (r=luke)
# [05:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1db5b4e59649 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 826148 - Part 3: Jaeger IC (r=bhackett)
# [05:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e520c411aed6 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 826148 - Part 4: Ion IC (r=dvander)
# [05:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57bf735f3e18 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 826148 - Part 2: TI changes (r=bhackett)
# [05:06] <@bz> roc: yeah, that sucks. :(
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# [05:19] <@bz> actually implementing .frameLoader sure makes this code happier. ;)
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# [05:21] <@bz_sleep> run little try run
# [05:23] <philor> oh, screw you pink pixel of death, I was just working up a good glare at the guilty party and it turns out to just be a guilty slave
# [05:24] <@bz_sleep> Is it a party slave?
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# [05:25] <philor> the party of the lion-025th part
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# [05:27] <philor> we (in the third-party sense) should rewrite the reftest harness as a memory checker, it seems to be quite effective already
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# [05:28] <@gavin> hrm, do we not have a macro for aborting in release builds?
# [05:29] <@gavin> I thought NS_ABORT_IF_FALSE was unconditional, but apparently it's debug-only
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# [05:30] <@dveditz> gavin: no, it's a more-explicit ns_assertion() from the "should ns_assertion be fatal?" wars
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# [05:30] <@dveditz> but still debug only
# [05:30] <@dveditz> is MOZ_ABORT() in release builds?
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# [05:31] <@bz_sleep> MOZ_CRASH is in release builds, iirc
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# [05:42] <@gavin> ehsan: feels like RecentWindow.getMostRecentBrowserWindow should ignore aOptions.private #ifndef MOZ_PER_WINDOW_PRIVATE_BROWSING
# [05:43] <@ehsan> gavin: yeah, probably...
# [05:43] <@gavin> because it never makes sense to look for a window based on privateness, and then you wouldn't have to ifdef all callers
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# [05:44] <@ehsan> gavin: do you want me to make that change in the same patch?
# [05:45] <@gavin> sure
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# [05:45] <@ehsan> ok
# [05:45] <@ehsan> gimme a sec
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# [05:47] <markh> ehsan: how do I configure m-c to build without per-window PB?
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# [05:48] <@ehsan> gavin: done
# [05:48] <@ehsan> markh: add export MOZ_PER_WINDOW_PRIVATE_BROWSING=0 to your mozconfig
# [05:48] <markh> thx
# [05:48] <@ehsan> markh: or edit browser/confvars.sh and remove the last line :)
# [05:49] <markh> the former sounds better :)
# [05:49] <@ehsan> markh: the latter method is useful for try builds for example
# [05:49] <markh> right
# [05:49] <@ehsan> right
# [05:49] <philor> shu: you've got some busted tests
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# [06:14] <markh> ehsan: in non-perwindow-pb builds, does a 'private-browsing' notification ever get sent? I'm wondering if code which uses this in non-perwindow builds needs to be wrapped in a #ifdef, or whether a comment about it would suffice?
# [06:15] <@ehsan> markh: that notification will never get sent, but please do wrap the observer in an #ifdef
# [06:15] <@ehsan> markh: as I'm planning to remove all the global PB specific code soon
# [06:15] <firebot> Check-in:
# [06:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e1f9e488479 - L. David Baron - Bug 588237, patch 5: remove the optimization of skipping FlowAndPlaceFloat for some pushed floats, simply because the optimization looks fishy to me. r=roc
# [06:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33ff2a97b021 - L. David Baron - Bug 588237, patch 2: Fix comment that is now incorrect due to work in bug 563584 or followups. r=roc
# [06:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d53d71d1c92e - L. David Baron - Bug 827687, patch 2: Be more careful walking segments. r=bzbarsky
# [06:15] <@ehsan> markh: I basically have a branch where I remove anything behind #ifndef MOZ_PER_WINDOW_PRIVATE_BROWSING
# [06:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb69b7be1c0e - L. David Baron - Bug 827698: Use the length of the 'animation-name' list when determining how many animations to run. r=bzbarsky
# [06:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c29097e7bbd - L. David Baron - Bug 588237, patch 4: Pull pushed floats back from the next-in-flow at the start of reflow. r=roc
# [06:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0542ba6920b3 - L. David Baron - Bug 588237, patch 3: Remove the pushed floats list when it is empty. r=roc
# [06:16] <markh> ehsan: ok, thanks, will do
# [06:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcdb6d839e95 - L. David Baron - Bug 827717: Change record of CSS animation start to be before delay so that dynamic changes to animation-delay are honored. r=bzbarsky
# [06:16] <BenWa> ehsan: desktop profile + video in slowmotion http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=f1a95615cb4ea51b49daf7416753888193e03786&videoCapture=http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/output.webm
# [06:16] <@ehsan> markh: ty. btw, how close is the social stuff?
# [06:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52e73ebc07e4 - L. David Baron - Bug 827687: Fix edge case in calculation of whichIteration. r=bzbarsky
# [06:16] <BenWa> ehsan: make sure to clear the cleopatra cache if the video is big
# [06:16] <markh> sadly I'd guess about 10 days :( I'm off next week. The dependent bug is making good progress though
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# [06:16] <@ehsan> BenWa: WHOA! this is very sexy!
# [06:17] <BenWa> :D
# [06:17] <@ehsan> markh: hrm, ok... just keep in mind that we need to uplift it to aurora etc... :/
# [06:17] <BenWa> It's sad that we lose all our time waiting on network, plugin and streams
# [06:17] <markh> yeah
# [06:17] <@ehsan> markh: is there anything that I can help with?
# [06:17] <markh> ehsan: not really
# [06:17] <@ehsan> BenWa: no, it's not sad, cause we can fix it :)
# [06:18] <markh> it's even possible it could land next week
# [06:18] <markh> by someone else :)
# [06:18] <@ehsan> markh: alright, cool, please let me know if there's anything I can do
# [06:18] <WeirdAl> ...
# [06:18] <WeirdAl> hey guys
# [06:18] <markh> will do, thx
# [06:18] <@ehsan> markh: that includes pestering people for reviews etc :)
# [06:18] <@ehsan> I'm good at that ;)
# [06:18] <BenWa> Well hopefully I can integrate this into the profiler addon (mac only for now)
# [06:18] <@ehsan> BenWa: yeah, that would be great
# [06:18] <@ehsan> BenWa: you should tell me tomorrow how this works
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# [06:19] <BenWa> create a webm screencast and run firefox with the framecounter pref and provide cleopatra the link to the profile + video file and you're done
# [06:19] <@ehsan> BenWa: do you use the same way as on mobile for syncing frames, etc?
# [06:20] <BenWa> Same exact so this doesn't need any m-c changes
# [06:20] <@ehsan> that's fantastic!
# [06:21] <markh> ehsan: one question though :) In non-perwindow builds, is an existing window reused, or is it re-created? Basically, I'm wondering if an observer for 'private-browsing' in browser.js is suspect in - ie, if the window is re-created, I'd expect something in browser.js to never see that observer (or maybe see it immediately before death or something)
# [06:22] <@ehsan> markh: is an existing window reused for what?
# [06:22] <markh> for the PB session
# [06:22] <@ehsan> oh no
# [06:22] <@ehsan> *never*!
# [06:22] <@ehsan> we just call OpenBrowserWindow({private: true}) in browser.js
# [06:22] <@ehsan> which opens a new window in private mode
# [06:22] <markh> non-perwindow builds I'm asking about
# [06:22] <@ehsan> oh
# [06:22] <@ehsan> yes
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# [06:22] <@ehsan> windows are reused there
# [06:22] <@ehsan> well
# [06:22] <@ehsan> only one of them is
# [06:23] <@ehsan> (the rest will be closed)
# [06:23] <markh> ok, great - an observer in window-level code such as browser.js does make sense then.
# [06:23] <@ehsan> indeed
# [06:23] <@ehsan> sorry for the confusion!
# [06:23] <markh> np, sorry for the silly questions ;)
# [06:23] <shu> philor: thanks, i see'em
# [06:23] <@ehsan> they're not silly at all!
# [06:23] <@ehsan> shu: sorry, I backed you ourt
# [06:23] <@ehsan> out, even
# [06:24] <@ehsan> markh: the global PB stuff is overly complicated
# [06:24] <shu> ehsan: sure np
# [06:24] <@ehsan> markh: fortunately, this is a lot cleaner in per-window world
# [06:24] <markh> indeed!
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# [06:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73d2891568af - Ehsan Akhgari - Merge mozilla-central into mozilla-inbound
# [06:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8592c41069c2 - Jeff Muizelaar - Backout bug 828789 (bb755890ec69) because of bug 829335
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# [06:53] <Jesse> dbaron, roc: thanks for the work on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588237
# [06:53] <@dbaron> Jesse, did you see my needinfo? request to you there?
# [06:54] <Jesse> yes, trying to figure out what to do with that
# [06:54] <@dbaron> ok, good :-)
# [06:54] <Jesse> did you try with the testcase in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621424
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# [06:55] <@dbaron> Jesse, I didn't see any assertions with-patch, I didn't have a without-patch debug build handy
# [06:55] <Jesse> dbaron: i'm in the opposite situation and i see assertions without-patch
# [06:56] <Jesse> oh but you couldn't reproduce that one even in 2011
# [06:56] <Jesse> hmm
# [06:56] <@dbaron> Jesse, but I had the patches in my tree then, no?
# [06:56] <Jesse> oh
# [06:56] <Jesse> right
# [06:57] <@dbaron> Jesse, I think I got dragged into something else and forgot to come back to them
# [06:57] <@dbaron> Jesse, though I think there was something remaining to do that I've since forgotten
# [06:57] <@dbaron> Jesse, if it's important, I assume we'll find out eventually
# [06:57] <Jesse> hehe
# [06:58] <Jesse> so, possible next steps include:
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# [06:58] <Jesse> A) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724978
# [06:59] <Jesse> B) i retest all my -moz-column bugs already in bugzilla, adding the WFM ones as crashtests and alerting you about the ones i can still reproduce
# [07:00] <Jesse> C) i remove all my fuzzer-ignores that were associated with bug 588237 and we see what my fuzzer finds
# [07:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5561a6bf08b2 - Gina Yeh - Bug 827255 - Patch 1: Enable AG error result code, r=echou
# [07:02] <Jesse> D) i do some fuzzing without the patch in the hope of finding a testcase with the exact crash signature [@ nsLayoutUtils::GetFloatFromPlaceholder]
# [07:03] <Jesse> would it make any sense to disable columns in the "hard cases", e.g. when they contain floats?
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# [07:04] <@dbaron> Jesse, I don't think so
# [07:04] <@dbaron> Jesse, I think we're also going to want to add other constructs that use page/column-type breaking
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# [07:04] <@dbaron> Jesse, in which it may make even less sense to disable things like floats inside of them
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# [07:05] <Jesse> might any of them be easier to test than columns? ;)
# [07:05] <Jesse> especially in terms of testcase reduction
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# [07:06] <@dbaron> hmmm, I suppose I have crashtest orange
# [07:07] <@dbaron> let me at least figure out which patch to back out rather than backing out all of the bugs
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# [07:10] <@dbaron> aargh, I'm confusing tbpl's error messages with its bug suggestions again
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# [07:20] <@dbaron> Jesse, backed out
# [07:20] <Jesse> ok
# [07:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcbaced55036 - L. David Baron - Back out bug 588237, patches 2 through 5.
# [07:21] <Jesse> when you reland, can you include https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621424 as a crashtest?
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# [07:50] <@dbaron> hmmm, I think that xpcshell orange on ehsan's push is new
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# [07:56] <tyronechong> Hello. I have a question about prerequisite build on windows. I hg cloned and everything but i cant find the firefox.exe file anyone know why?
# [07:57] <Mook> tyronechong: did you finish building after the clone?
# [07:57] <tyronechong> yes
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# [07:57] <Mook> okay; did you set up a MOZ_OBJDIR?
# [07:58] <Mook> it's in that, then "dist", then "bin"
# [07:58] <glob> tyronechong, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build#Running
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# [07:58] <tyronechong> i create c/mozilla-source/mozilla-central
# [07:59] <tyronechong> and i see the obj dir
# [07:59] <tyronechong> inthere
# [07:59] <tyronechong> went into dist then bin but all i see is application.ini
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# [08:00] <tyronechong> lemme build again
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# [08:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00e357dd1458 - David Zbarsky - Bug 827149 - Remove some uses of nsIDOMHTMLBodyElement r=bz
# [08:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b40ebe8c5273 - David Zbarsky - Bug 828715 - Move DOMSVGMatrix to mozilla::dom::SVGMatrix r=longsonr
# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/661847c6e48b - David Zbarsky - Bug 827724 - Remove nsIDOMSVGAnimatedPoints r=bz
# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f4f96dbf94f - David Zbarsky - Bug 827172: Move SVGPathElement to mozilla::dom r=bz
# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cde10153d99 - David Zbarsky - Bug 828817 - Avoid storing nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMDocument> in editor r=ehsan
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# [09:13] <Yoric> So, I have « abort: crosses branches (merge branches or update --check to force update) » when attempting to |hg pull -u| from inbound.
# [09:14] <Yoric> What should I do?
# [09:14] <KWierso|Home> I just reclone from scratch
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# [09:15] <KWierso|Home> but then, I never have anything of value in my repos
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# [09:16] <Yoric> Well, recloning inbound from scratch is quite long.
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# [09:18] <KWierso|Home> Yoric: have you tried hg update --check ?
# [09:18] <Yoric> Well, I am not sure what this will do to inbound.
# [09:19] <Yoric> I mean, I am willing to do anything stupid on my own repos, but I'm not really clear as to what "--check" does.
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# [09:19] <gaston> hg up -C is pretty safe
# [09:19] <Yoric> Oh, great.
# [09:19] <Yoric> I had forgotten to |hg qpop -a|.
# [09:20] <Yoric> Is there any way to rescue this?
# [09:20] <gaston> heh
# [09:20] <Yoric> I mean, I have applied |hg up -C|.
# [09:20] <gaston> ah
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# [09:20] <gaston> are your commits still there in the log ?
# [09:21] <gaston> qpop -a && pull && up -C should get you back to a clean state anyway
# [09:21] <gaston> i dont think up -C screws the mq
# [09:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11879a83e5e7 - David Zbarsky - Backout cset b40ebe8c5273 because it's not the right patch for Bug 828715
# [09:21] <Standard8> Is there an easy way to determine the specific test build on tbpl that runs a certain mochitest?
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# [09:21] <Yoric> gaston: I have the impression that it isn't.
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# [09:21] <Yoric> But it's in the mq.
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# [09:21] <Yoric> Let's try that.
# [09:22] <Standard8> so like how do I find out where test_getUserMedia_exceptions.html is run, without going through all the logs?
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# [09:22] <Yoric> gaston: Ok, it seems to have worked, thanks.
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# [09:23] <gaston> :)
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# [09:24] <Yoric> Now, I'd like to change the commit message for the tip.
# [09:24] <Yoric> (which is an unpushed changeset)
# [09:24] <Yoric> How do I do that?
# [09:24] <gcp> hg qimport -r tip && hg qrefresh -e
# [09:25] <glazou> mercurial is really a wild world
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# [09:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a45739b82322 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 812859 - A JavaScript module to mark deprecation;r=dolske
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# [09:33] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [09:34] <Yoric> Ok, my first attempt at landing something.
# [09:34] <Yoric> Fingers crossed.
# [09:34] <KWierso|Home> RIP Everything 1/11/2013
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# [09:34] <Yoric> Yeah, probably.
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# [09:40] <Ms2ger> Yoric, ping
# [09:40] <Yoric> Ms2ger: pong
# [09:40] <Ms2ger> Just kidding, it's fine ;)
# [09:40] <Yoric> What have I broken?
# [09:40] <Yoric> tssss :)
# [09:41] <Yoric> It's going to be difficult concentrating on my bugs.
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# [09:41] <KWierso|Home> that's why you push at the end of the day :)
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# [09:41] <Yoric> :)
# [09:42] <KWierso|Home> relevant: https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/thumb/5/56/Land_patch_-_go_home.jpg/300px-Land_patch_-_go_home.jpg
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# [09:43] <Yoric> Definitely.
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# [09:44] <KWierso|Home> wait. I've landed stuff before you? :|
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# [09:46] <KWierso|Home> Yoric: of course, you set yourself as the patch author, so now you're the one in hg blame :P
# [09:46] <Yoric> Oh, did I?
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# [09:47] <Yoric> Ah, right, yzen had forgotten to set himself.
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, uplift happened on Monday
# [10:26] <Ms2ger> First build may be delayed, I heard something like that
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# [10:28] <NeilAway> Yoric: if you use mq alot consider hg pull --rebase
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# [11:03] <Yoric> Ah, because it rebases the mq changesets on top of the origin changesets?
# [11:03] <Ms2ger> Yes
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# [11:10] <marcoz> Hi gentlemen! I am encountering a strange problem I first observed yesterday. In a clean build made from mozilla-inbound on my local Mac, built for Android and put on a NEXUS 7, accessibility is no longer loaded for web content. In fact I don't see any instanciation messages in the logcat. Does anybody have any clue what might be broken? The paste is here: http://pastebin.com/WrhF43A5
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# [11:11] <marcoz> Additional info: On Wednesday afternoon European time, everything was still working OK.
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# [11:19] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
# [11:19] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I see you've been busy
# [11:19] <Ms2ger> Somewhat :)
# [11:19] <Ms2ger> Let me do a merge for you ;)
# [11:20] <marcoz> edmorley: Hi! Are you aware of anything that landed on mozilla-inbound between Wednesday afternoon and yesterday morning that could cause the loading of the accessibility-related JSM files to completely stop working?
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# [11:20] <edmorley> Ms2ger: s'ok I'm happy to
# [11:20] <marcoz> Yesterday's mozilla-central nightly build was OK, so whatever it is is either not migrated there yet, or somehow broken in my local builds only. But I cannot figure out for the life of me what that breakage is.
# [11:20] <edmorley> marcoz: I'm not aware of anything, but I can have another look
# [11:21] <Ms2ger> edmorley, and is it just me, or does [@ nssCertificate_Destroy] usually not come up on talos?
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# [11:21] <edmorley> Ms2ger: talos now uses mozcrash (part of mozbase), which now correctly outputs a PROCESS-CRASH line
# [11:22] <Ms2ger> Aha
# [11:22] <edmorley> s/now/now means talos/
# [11:22] <marcoz> edmorley: Sorry, must be more specific, this is for Android. The paste of a recent start and termination of a local Fennec build is here: http://pastebin.com/WrhF43A5
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# [11:23] <edmorley> Ms2ger: in addition, the tbpl regex for PROCESS-CRASH had the start of line anchor removed, so it shows properly in the annotated summary. Bug 828324 and bug 829367 will improve things further
# [11:23] <Ms2ger> edmorley++
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# [11:24] <edmorley> marcoz: will take a look :-)
# [11:25] <edmorley> Ms2ger: plus side is that many of the talos failures are actually the NSS crash, so once that's fixed, we'll see a dramatic improvement all around
# [11:25] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [11:25] <Ms2ger> Any idea on when it's getting fixed? :/
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# [11:27] <edmorley> Ms2ger: after b2g I guess. gbrown kindly added some logging in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761987#c1529 but I presume it still needs someone from NSS to debug
# [11:27] <Ms2ger> Yay b2g :)
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# [11:31] <glazou> !seen ehsan
# [11:31] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 5 hours, 6 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying 'markh: fortunately, this is a lot cleaner in per-window world' in #developers.
# [11:31] <khuey> it's a bit early for him
# [11:31] <khuey> 5:30 AM
# [11:31] <glazou> yeah but us geeks can have strange schedules sometimes...
# [11:33] <edmorley> marcoz: the only thing I could find that seemed relevant (but this was by skimming the pushlog by commit message), was Bug 828594 which removed used imports, including one from GeckoAccessibility.java
# [11:34] <edmorley> marcoz: unless it wasn't as unused as he thought?
# [11:34] <edmorley> marcoz: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a7b25f2ee0f4
# [11:34] <edmorley> but I would have presumed it would have busted the build
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# [11:41] <gcp> yeah, I think so too.
# [11:41] <gcp> can't have been the reason
# [11:42] <marcoz> edmorley: gcp: I agree.
# [11:42] <marcoz> The build completes successfully.
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# [11:42] <marcoz> And again, it's hosed without any modifications on my part. On Wed, if I had errors in my JS, I would see them in my logcat.
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# [11:43] <marcoz> Now, I don't even get accessibility without my patch applied.
# [11:43] <edmorley> :-(
# [11:45] <hub> marcoz: I'm tempted to tell you to do a hg bisect
# [11:45] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: ping
# [11:45] <dzbarsky1> edmorley: pong
# [11:45] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: hi :-)
# [11:46] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: linux64 mochitest-other orange on your push - which cset to back out?
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# [11:46] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18702328&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [11:46] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: 9cde10153d99 ?
# [11:46] <dzbarsky1> edmorley: yeah, that should be it
# [11:46] <dzbarsky1> thanks
# [11:47] <edmorley> np
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# [11:49] <Mavericks> i'm on b.m.o and in the comment field(text box to type) , i c-v an url and then highlight it expecting a 'open in a new tab' context menu item . instead it treats it as a text. is this normal ?
# [11:49] <Mavericks> s/highlight/ select
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# [11:49] <Mavericks> select and right click
# [11:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48acf4054a03 - Ed Morley - Backout 9cde10153d99 (bug 828817) for Linux64 mochitest-other failures on a CLOSED TREE
# [11:50] <marcoz> hub: No use, since I don't know which revision I was at when it still worked.
# [11:50] <hub> marcoz: that's where you guess a little bit to find the starting points
# [11:51] <marcoz> edmorley: gcp: I am trying one more thing: I completely uninstalled Fennec local builds from my device and am letting build_and_deploy reinstall it from scratch to see if something in its data was borked.
# [11:51] <Mavericks> oh nvm it's a <textarea> element
# [11:51] <marcoz> Hub: I'm not prepared to bisect through over 300 or so changesets.
# [11:51] <hub> marcoz: that's 9 attempts
# [11:52] <hub> to bisect 300 changesets
# [11:52] <marcoz> Huh?
# [11:52] <hub> yeah
# [11:52] <hub> that's the powet of bisect
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# [11:52] <hub> power
# [11:52] <marcoz> hub: I am not following.
# [11:53] <hub> marcoz: unfortunately I don't have an Android dev environment here
# [11:54] <hub> marcoz: 2^9 is 512. So up to 512 changeset is 9 attempts
# [11:54] <gcp> marcoz: bisecting 300 changesets only takes 9 builds, because 2^9=512
# [11:54] <hub> up to 256 changeset (2^8) is 8 attempts
# [11:55] <hub> the more annoying part of hg bisect is when you end up with broken builds
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# [11:55] <marcoz> hub: gcp: I just looked at hg help bisect and am not even sure I understand what this is trying to tell me.
# [11:56] <gcp> first you go to the current, broken build, and you do hg bisect -b
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# [11:56] <gcp> then you hg update to one that worked, and do hg bisect -g
# [11:56] <gcp> it will automatically update to something inbetween
# [11:56] <gcp> you build and check
# [11:56] <gcp> then do hg bisect -g or -b depending on whether that workedd
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# [11:57] <marcoz> Hm, like I said, I don't even know what the last working revision was.
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# [11:58] <hub> marcoz: you can take a guess and test. Like if said it was working with a 5 days ago, try to get a revision in that time frame or earlier
# [11:58] <hub> test it
# [11:58] <hub> and then if it works, then you have a good one
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# [12:08] <marcoz> hub: gcp: edmorley: Looks like completely uninstalling the local build and putting it back onto the device fresh fixed the problem. I now see AccessFu in my logs again.
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# [12:08] <hub> marcoz: ok cool.
# [12:08] <hub> easier than a bisect
# [12:09] <hub> marcoz: let's hope it is not something that will bite when people upgrade
# [12:10] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: after the backout I got https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18705692&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [12:10] <dzbarsky1> edmorley: include nsIDocumentInlines.h in nsHTMLEditor
# [12:11] <marcoz> hub: I'll know when I update to today's nightly build. Yesterday's build was still OK.
# [12:11] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: tbh at this point I'd rather just back the push out
# [12:11] <edmorley> we can't afford to keep the tree closed for B2G work
# [12:11] <dzbarsky1> edmorley: ok
# [12:11] <edmorley> given that there may be more lurking
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# [12:12] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: I'm presuming the csets in the original push weren't in a buildable order then?
# [12:12] * Ms2ger wonders how many bugs could have been fixed in the time people spent reading and replying to the Bug Triage Practices thread
# [12:13] <edmorley> lol
# [12:13] <dzbarsky1> edmorley: no, the last one fixed the link error
# [12:14] <tbsaunde> q
# [12:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe51ccc53083 - Ed Morley - Backout 7f4f96dbf94f (bug 827172), 661847c6e48b (bug 827724), 00e357dd1458 (bug 827149) to fix the build on a CLOSED TREE
# [12:14] <Ms2ger> And I the time I spend fighting git
# [12:15] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: so yes then?
# [12:15] <dzbarsky1> yes
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# [12:15] <edmorley> dzbarsky1: I mean from a "if possible make sure that each changeset builds on its own POV"
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# [12:15] <edmorley> to help with later bisects
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# [12:21] <marcoz> hub: edmorley: OK, I now get actual log entries, but accessibility still isn't working. Did some big UI change in Android land in the last 48 hours, like some new tabs handling or something? Something's really borked in the interface between Android and our JSMs. :(
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# [12:39] <marcoz> edmorley: gcp: hub: I'm giving up for now. Any small incremental build currently seems to be borked over here, which would require me to fully rebuild each time I bisect. That would make this a 15 hour project if your 9 times estimate is accurate, since a full build even on this MBP with an SSD takes 1.5 hours. Will toss the log over to eeejay and ask him to see if he spots anything.
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# [12:39] <glandium> marcoz: sounds like you have heat problems, like i do
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# [13:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3939f7c9b284 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 820506 - Problem selecting image node in SVG when used with clip-path in certain condition. r=roc, a=bbajaj.
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# [13:06] <Ms2ger> roc, still here?
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# [13:06] <mounir> edmorley: ping
# [13:06] <edmorley> mounir: hi
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# [13:07] <mounir> edmorley: I want to be a good citizen and push to only one platform but want to find which platform is the less busy right now
# [13:07] <mounir> edmorley: do you have a handy link that shows nice graphs so I can pick one? :)
# [13:07] <edmorley> http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/pending.html
# [13:07] <mounir> edmorley: awesome :)
# [13:07] <@roc> hi
# [13:07] <edmorley> mounir: and trychooser now has pending job counts http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/
# [13:08] <mounir> edmorley: should I open a bug for tbpl to link to http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/pending.html instead of https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/pending
# [13:08] <edmorley> mounir: linux64 is often a good bet
# [13:08] <mounir> edmorley: I usually use linux64 actually
# [13:08] <Ms2ger> roc, is nscoord-as-float still something we want to do?
# [13:08] <mounir> gasp, the link in TBPL is even behind LDAP
# [13:08] <mounir> while the other one is public
# [13:08] <@roc> Ms2ger: it's unclear whether it's a good idea or not
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# [13:09] <edmorley> mounir: there's bug 764883, agree graphs better target
# [13:09] <edmorley> or both
# [13:09] <Ms2ger> roc, OK, thanks
# [13:10] <Callek> edmorley: mounir: hrm ugh afiak https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/pending should not be behind ldap
# [13:10] <Callek> as in I thought we intended that page to be viewable by anyway
# [13:10] <Callek> s/anyway/anyone/
# [13:10] <edmorley> Callek: all of /buildapi/ is afaik
# [13:10] <Callek> (the old page works by accident, iirc)
# [13:10] <Callek> (and was made before we had buildapi)
# [13:11] <mounir> edmorley: having the stats in http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ is pretty cool
# [13:11] <mounir> edmorley: should I thank the ateam? :)
# [13:11] <edmorley> Benwa :-)
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# [13:12] <Ms2ger> But the ateam will be happy to take credit ;)
# [13:12] <mounir> BenWa++
# [13:12] <mounir> Ms2ger: such as French ;)
# [13:13] <jdm> Callek: I'm pretty sure the various buildapi stuff isn't moco ldap, so it's not a big hinderance
# [13:13] <jdm> since if you want to use the information to push to try, you've got access anyway
# [13:13] <Callek> jdm: ooo L1's can use buildapi
# [13:13] <Callek> so its not as big a deal
# [13:13] <jdm> yep
# [13:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b786ed97ef22 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 829030 - Accessing the desktop notification API in the browser and approving permission errors out - API does not work. r=sicking
# [13:14] <Callek> but its still behind ldap so was commenting on someone suggesting to change link to the non-ldap page ;-)
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# [13:21] <markh> edmorley: pretty sure those browser_social_chatwindow.js test errors are simple timeouts due to the complex test in debug builds. requestLongerTimeout(2); fixes the problem for me locally
# [13:22] <markh> I can almost re=me that :)
# [13:23] <edmorley> wfm :-)
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# [13:32] <evilpie> wow b2g guys nearly made it!
# [13:32] <jdm> still making it
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# [13:33] <Ms2ger> They're making something?
# [13:33] <evilpie> every team should have a work work week in awhile
# [13:34] <Ms2ger> Want to come to the DOM one in London next month? ;)
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# [13:34] <evilpie> a school ...
# [13:35] <Ms2ger> Boo ;)
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# [13:35] <Callek> Ms2ger: I'll come to the DOM one if you get someone to fly me out there
# [13:35] <Callek> though I don't have a real legit need, so good luck with that
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# [13:36] <evilpie> well you shouldn't say that
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# [13:39] <@smaug> Ms2ger: you're coming to DOM work week?
# [13:40] <Ms2ger> Probably not
# [13:40] <@smaug> bah
# [13:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be47f975b538 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 827954 - Firefox button overlaps the first tab in private windows. r=ehsan
# [13:40] <Ms2ger> Unless I go to fosdem and you kidnap me there ;)
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# [13:40] <@smaug> that is the plan
# [13:40] <Ms2ger> I see
# [13:40] * Ms2ger crosses out fosdem
# [13:41] <bkero> :( fosdem misses you
# [13:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a752f6f0994d - Mark Hammond - Bug 821208 - increase test timeout to avoid intermittent orange in debug builds. r=me
# [13:42] <mak> edmorley: what's the current situation re : merge? looks like all pgo build after last merge from central are busted?
# [13:43] <edmorley> which tree?
# [13:43] <evilpie> Ms2ger: i am going to fosdem as well
# [13:43] <edmorley> inbound?
# [13:43] <mak> edmorley: y
# [13:43] <edmorley> define busted
# [13:43] <mak> edmorley: all pgo builds are on changesets that caused some issue (orange and such)
# [13:43] <edmorley> ah ok
# [13:43] <mak> and were backed out later
# [13:43] <edmorley> yeah
# [13:43] <edmorley> I thought you meant the pgo builds themselves failed
# [13:44] <edmorley> ther eis also a very frequent new M1 failure i'm trying to bisect
# [13:44] <edmorley> once I know where it is, I'll do a merge from prior
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# [13:44] <edmorley> (bug 829512)
# [13:44] <mak> the only good one is 3eae4564001c but is before ehsan's merge from central (not sure if that may cause problems since a backout has been merged from central)
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# [13:44] <edmorley> yeah I'd rather take from after
# [13:44] <edmorley> I prefer not to cross merges
# [13:44] <mak> that's what I meant
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# [13:45] <mak> so looks like we just have to wait for a good pgo :(
# [13:45] <edmorley> is there something that this is blocking?
# [13:46] <mak> I have 7 patches for which I need aurora-approval but usually I don't ask approval before they merge to central...
# [13:46] <edmorley> as long as they are green on inbound, I'd ask anyway tbh
# [13:46] <mak> though I'm depleting my aurora-approvals benefits this week :)
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# [13:46] <edmorley> by the time the a? is looked at they will be
# [13:47] <mak> yeah, I may just do that
# [13:47] <mak> btw, thanks for your support, as usual :)
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# [13:47] <edmorley> that's ok :-)
# [13:47] <edmorley> I'm chomping at the bit to merge too fwiw
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# [13:48] <mak> I was tempted to merge this morning, then noticed the situation and gave up, after starring some failures
# [13:48] * mak should also understand how this mc-merge thing works
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# [13:51] <Ms2ger> mak, click the link on tbpl, hit "continue" until you're done
# [13:51] <mak> sounds easy
# [13:51] <edmorley> Ms2ger: and submit
# [13:51] <Ms2ger> It is!
# [13:52] <Ms2ger> And fill in your credentials somewhere in between
# [13:52] <sewardj> jlebar: I will verify 809949 (w.r.t. races), but it may not be today
# [13:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa0bd5330c92 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 829477 - Don't notify the UI if we didn't have crash ID. r=fabrice
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# [14:08] <NeilAway> right, so I'm getting an error populating _virtualenv
# [14:08] <Ms2ger> Pastebin?
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# [14:10] <NeilAway> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2051432
# [14:10] <firebot> Check-in:
# [14:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/818ed8d0886d - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 827577. Be a lot more careful about saving and restoring frame constructor state for fixed-pos descendants of CSS-transformed elements. r=bzbarsky
# [14:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d63c737db57 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 794246. Assume inactive menu items don't paint a background of their own. r=bas
# [14:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db4776369a2e - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 827537. Refactor AudioChunk to support having separate buffers for each channel. r=jesup
# [14:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c232dd64f733 - Cervantes Yu - Bug 820571: Don't show remote frame on restyles until reflow finished. r=roc
# [14:10] <Ms2ger> rm c:/mozilla-build/mozilla/_virtualenv\Scripts\python.exe and try again
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# [14:12] <NeilAway> well, I can try (it's 2.7.2, same version...)
# [14:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b90329e19776 - Gregor Wagner - Backout Bug 829030. r=me
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# [14:13] <Ms2ger> That's what worked for me at some point
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# [14:13] <NeilAway> aargh
# [14:13] <NeilAway> stupid client.mk now thinks configure succeeded, and tried to bypass it
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# [14:14] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: seems to have got past creating python environment this time
# [14:14] <Ms2ger> Good
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# [14:15] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: begs the question of how it got there, unless rm lied about removing everything
# [14:15] <edmorley> gwagner: thank you for backing out
# [14:15] <Ms2ger> That's beyond me :)
# [14:16] <edmorley> gwagner: was about to do so for m1 orange
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# [14:16] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh noes, configure wants to run python.exe :s
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# [14:18] <gwagner> edmorley: sure :)
# [14:18] <Optimizer> roc: why did you commented the same bug's url in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794246#c17
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# [14:21] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ah, c-c's configure creates python.exe
# [14:22] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, ah, I have very little experience with c-c, I'm afraid
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# [14:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/310f267bc184 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 829121 - Follow-up: remove excessive dump() to not confuse developers. r=fabrice
# [14:24] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, as far as I can tell, it calls m-c's virtualenv population anyway
# [14:24] <NeilAway> although surely the mozillabuild python shouldn't need to be virtualised :s
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# [14:28] * edmorley thwaps Ms2ger for causing conflicts on the merge
# [14:29] <edmorley> Ms2ger: please can you merge inbound fcbaced55036 to m-c and resolve the conflicts
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# [14:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abf0ab34d7c7 - Mike Habicher - backed out changeset d99397ff6bb8 (see bug 808146 for proper solution), a=not-needed
# [14:29] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, looks like a c-c bug
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# [14:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I'm happy to mark the bugs and watch, if you can just do the conflict resolution
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# [14:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6efd06ceb84 - Kyle Huey - Bug 828992: Deal with blobs properly when creating indexes on existing data. r=bent
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# [14:33] <NeilAway> yes, and I've even made c-c builds faster
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# [14:38] <Ms2ger> edmorley, yes, of course
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# [14:39] <edmorley> Ms2ger: thank you :-)
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# [14:40] * Ms2ger twiddles thumbs while hg pulls
# [14:40] <RattyAway> So who are the current toolkit::Phishing peers these days?
# [14:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7c4a6d06571 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 827258 - Refactor jsdbg2 to use StackIter. r=luke
# [14:41] <RattyAway> dolske: when do you think you can get around to reviewing Bug 825417? or perhaps you can suggest a more appropriate reviewer?
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# [14:44] <jlebar> sewardj: no rush at all. And thanks.
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# [14:45] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I'm going to build js first, should be pretty fast
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# [14:45] <edmorley> cool
# [14:50] <Ms2ger> The B2G people sure are having fun in bug 828967
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# [14:56] <hub> Ms2ger: yes we have
# [14:57] <Ms2ger> edmorley, alright, this seems to build, pushing :)
# [14:57] <edmorley> great :-)
# [14:57] <edmorley> I'm happy to merge back, mark etc
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# [14:57] <Ms2ger> I'll merge back too, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more :)
# [14:58] <edmorley> true
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# [14:58] <Ms2ger> Indeed so
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# [14:58] <jandem> Ms2ger: what did I do?
# [14:59] <Ms2ger> Touch Debugger.cpp
# [14:59] <Ms2ger> fp->returnValue() is iter.returnValue() now?
# [14:59] <jandem> yes
# [14:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52ec0dda042e - Fabrice Desré - Bug 829572 - The storage permission should be ALLOW for all kinds of apps r=sicking
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# [15:03] <Ms2ger> Okay, building again, I'll push to inbound in a few minutes
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# [15:06] <jandem> Ms2ger: I guess conflicts in js are more likely than other parts of the tree
# [15:06] <Ms2ger> jandem, even more so when someone just removed half of jsarray.cpp :)
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# [15:06] <jandem> heh
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# [15:08] <Ms2ger> And yes, you guys spit out way too much code for my liking :)
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# [15:08] <hsivonen> I find that I have again gone too close to the docshell
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# [15:08] <hsivonen> nsDocumentViewer this time
# [15:08] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, alright, see you in July :)
# [15:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/819ce0c7ac9e - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 826555 - Ensure that updates can't rename an app r=fabrice
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# [15:10] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: heh
# [15:10] <hsivonen> I wish whoever wrote nsIMarkupDocumentViewer hadn't been in too much of a hurry to document the members
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# [15:10] <hsivonen> "XXX Comment here!" yeah, thanks
# [15:11] <edmorley> lol
# [15:11] <Ms2ger> And pushing
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# [15:15] <hsivonen> I’m pretty sure these properties on nsIMarkupDocumentViewer don’t have any function other than confusing developers
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# [15:20] <hsivonen> nice. those comments were landed in CVS versions 1.1 by buster@netscape
# [15:20] <Ms2ger> I wonder...
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# [15:20] <hsivonen> and why on earth does the docshell use an atom for a charset name?
# [15:20] <Ms2ger> I really wonder...
# [15:21] <Ms2ger> If in 15 years time, people will make similar comments about the stuff being landed to B2G now
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# [15:22] <@smaug> you don't need 15 years for that ;)
# [15:22] <Ms2ger> Okay, 15 hours
# [15:23] <@smaug> hsivonen: indeed that charset as atoms look odd
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# [15:23] <hsivonen> oh awesome. this stuff is used by comm-central
# [15:23] <derf> If people are making comments about current B2G code 15 years from now, we'll have done pretty well.
# [15:23] <Archae|mobile> b2g will still exist in 15 years?
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# [15:24] <hsivonen> comm-central :-(
# [15:25] <Ms2ger> comm-central will exist in 15 years?
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# [15:25] <@smaug> it will be b2s (boot to servo)
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# [15:25] <Archae|mobile> no, iirc there are plans to move it back to m-c
# [15:26] <Archae|mobile> but it's busted since last we
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# [15:30] <Ms2ger> Why are we thwapping him?
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# [15:30] <edmorley> another backout
# [15:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae71673a37e9 - Ed Morley - Backout d6efd06ceb84 (bug 828992) for assertions on a CLOSED TREE
# [15:34] <khuey> edmorley: don't back that out of b2g 18 please
# [15:35] <khuey> it's just a typo
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# [15:35] <edmorley> khuey: ok
# [15:36] <evilpie> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=348b5495da1d is that mochi 1 weird?
# [15:37] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [15:37] <Ms2ger> Your fault? Dunno
# [15:38] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=b786ed97ef22 suggests not
# [15:38] <evilpie> great
# [15:39] <evilpie> can't push now anyway
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# [15:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/44dcffe8792b - Josh Matthews - Bug 829043 - Separate wyciwyg cache into app jars. r=michal.novotny
# [15:42] <hsivonen> that's a scary-looking commit message
# [15:42] <jdm> just business as usual for b2g
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# [15:43] <hsivonen> I wish we did what WebKit gets away with and zapped wyciwyg channels
# [15:43] <jdm> what do they do?
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# [15:44] <hsivonen> jdm: if you reload a document.opened doc, WebKit fetches the URL that's the current window.location
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# [15:46] <@smaug> hsivonen: webkit is the only to have that behavior
# [15:46] <@smaug> everybody else do what the spec says
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# [15:49] <jst> edmorley: do you have an eta on re-opening inbound?
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# [15:50] <edmorley> jst: when https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=db4776369a2e gets a green win debug
# [15:50] <edmorley> or more likely goes orange, and we'll need to back something out
# [15:51] <edmorley> hmm
# [15:51] <jst> edmorley: minutes, hours, days? :)
# [15:51] <edmorley> 15 mins
# [15:51] <jst> edmorley: ok, thanks!
# [15:52] <edmorley> jst: sorry, that would have been the better first answer :-)
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# [15:53] <jst> edmorley: np :)
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# [15:56] <edmorley> sigh, m-cMerge got stuck halfway through -- have to restart from the beginning - apologies for the dupe comments
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# [16:00] <edmorley> jst: reopened
# [16:00] <jst> edmorley: woohoo! thanks
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# [16:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2f3391b009f - Kyle Huey - Bug 828992: Deal with blobs properly when creating indexes on existing data. r=bent
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# [16:04] <edmorley> khuey: closure was also for the make check failures, but just a new intermittent
# [16:04] <edmorley> it would seem
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# [16:04] <edmorley> or else signatures changed after decoder's landing
# [16:05] <edmorley> graememcc: you about? :-)
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# [16:05] <edmorley> hehe
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# [16:05] <graememcc> edmorley: what's up?
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# [16:05] <edmorley> graememcc: this has happened once before a few weeks ago, but I didn't have the webconsole open
# [16:06] <edmorley> running m-c merge on the latest merge and it jammed at 68% with no more activity in the webconsole
# [16:06] <edmorley> I've now just repeated from the start and it's happened again
# [16:06] <edmorley> the last entry is a PUT which got a 500 ISE
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# [16:07] <edmorley> but rather than retry it just sits
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# [16:07] <firebot> Check-in:
# [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a87848d15ab4 - Gene Lian - Bug 820206 - Validate "Webapps:*" message parameters in the parent process (part 1, move .uninstall() from mozIDOMApplication to mozIDOMApplicationMgmt). r=sicking,
# [16:07] <firebot> a=blocking-basecamp
# [16:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddd84bce57fb - Gene Lian - Bug 820206 - Validate "Webapps:*" message parameters in the parent process (part 3, test cases). r=fabrice, a=blocking-basecamp
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# [16:09] <edmorley> graememcc: is there a way I can resume from partway through the run? it's just this will be the third attempt now (and so triple bug comments)
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# [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6de45a6a33df - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 781569 - Implement the value sanitizing algorithm for <input type=time>. r=smaug
# [16:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2b1812531a2 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 829210 - Simplify the internal GetValueAsDate(). r=smaug
# [16:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/060da3a0e960 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 828938 - Change test_input_sanitization.html type='date' handling to be like other types. r=Ms2ger
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# [16:11] <graememcc> edmorley: sorry, just re-reading my own code atm...
# [16:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8164852113cd - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 829101 - Update tests for <input type='{email,number}'> value sanitization tests. r=Ms2ger
# [16:11] <edmorley> graememcc: s'ok no immediate rush, bug marking can wait a moment :-)
# [16:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: hey, do you know exactly when the elm builds started getting signed wrong?
# [16:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'm seeing a suspect looking build config change, but ti's only a couple of days old...
# [16:12] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: no I just guessed a couple weeks but I can check for you and let you know
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# [16:12] <bbondy> will let you know within 10 min
# [16:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> ooph
# [16:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> hang on
# [16:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> i just found the thing that broke it
# [16:12] <bbondy> yay
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# [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ba8ec844de6 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
# [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44dcffe8792b - Josh Matthews - Bug 829043 - Separate wyciwyg cache into app jars. r=michal.novotny
# [16:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: should have a fix landed shortly, do you need me to rekick nightlies afterwards or anything?
# [16:13] <bbondy> nope just reply in that bug and I'll refire a couple nightlies
# [16:14] <bbondy> thanks!
# [16:14] <Yoric> What's browser/components/tabview?
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# [16:14] <edmorley> Yoric: panorama iirc
# [16:14] <graememcc> edmorley: which bug# was it trying to send in that last PUT?
# [16:15] <edmorley> https://api-dev.bugzilla.mozilla.org/latest//bug/827899
# [16:15] <edmorley> double slash
# [16:15] <edmorley> as side note
# [16:15] <Yoric> edmorley: Ok, thanks.
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# [16:15] <bsmedberg> joshmoz: what should I do about bug 768398?
# [16:16] <edmorley> graememcc: though it's hung at 62% this time, so presume not bug specific
# [16:16] <bsmedberg> is silverlight using non-invalidating CA and maybe this is just us doing extra work?
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# [16:16] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: just to be clear - the expectation is that nightly builds get signed with the real cert, and dep builds still get signed with the self signed one, right?
# [16:16] <bhearsum|buildduty> (that was the behaviour before this broke afaict)
# [16:16] <bbondy> correct
# [16:17] <bhearsum|buildduty> k
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# [16:18] <padenot> g/b 13
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# [16:20] <Ms2ger> glazou, I feel your pain
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# [16:22] <glazou> I am not even sure the code reflects the algo I outlined on my blog
# [16:23] <glazou> we should move all of that to JS
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# [16:35] <edmorley> decoder: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18712004&tree=Mozilla-Inbound but actually unrelated I'm presuming
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# [16:38] <graememcc> edmorley: pushed a quick robustness fix that should allow mcMerge to soldier on in the face of adversity
# [16:38] <graememcc> edmorley: Have sometimes seen 500s from BZAPI due to malformed input. AFAICT there's nothing about that bug that suggests m-cMerge is to blame. The data going across the wire looks valid.
# [16:38] <edmorley> graememcc: great thank you :-) (bzapi has had a few 500s last few days, so suspect jsut that)
# [16:38] <graememcc> edmorley: No way to resume at present, though on reload any bugs marked in the previous run will now show as RESOLVED. So you can uncheck comment (laborious I know) in those cases, though you'd need to manually check the leave open bugs
# [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbc20626801f - Patrick McManus - bug 828236 give CONNECT a (proxy-)connection header back from bug 570283 r=jduell
# [16:39] <graememcc> edmorley: Or hit expand all comments, open webconsole and $('textarea').get().forEach(function(elem) {elem.value = 'Apologies if this has already been marked (issues with m-cMerge)...\n' + elem.value;})
# [16:39] <edmorley> graememcc: unfortunately many bugs will be resolved anyway due to b2g policy atm
# [16:39] <edmorley> good idea with latter
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# [16:39] <froydnj> today is a good day for rewriting entire already-working tests
# [16:40] <edmorley> graememcc: I don't see anything in repo - it is in prod so far right yeah?
# [16:41] <decoder> edmorley: yea that looks unrelated
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# [16:43] <graememcc> edmorley: yeah, not commited yet, just pushed straight to production
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# [16:46] <DGMurdockIII> when is the elm build features going to make it in the stable build or at least the beta
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, I wouldn't mind getting rid of the OS field at all :)
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# [16:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/575c6e6283b6 - Tom Schuster - Bug 829230 - Some rooting for JSCompartment::wrap
# [16:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf379a4b7234 - Tom Schuster - Bug 829087 - Handlify jsids in IonCache. r=terrence
# [16:48] <Ms2ger> DGMurdockIII, meet jimm
# [16:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c92fc2dcd48 - Tom Schuster - Bug 829294 - Some rooting for ClonedBlockScopeObject in DebugScopeProxy. r=terrence
# [16:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1803280504e7 - Tom Schuster - Bug 828977 - Root JSObject in AutoCycleDetector. r=terrence
# [16:48] <DGMurdockIII> jimm?
# [16:48] <Ms2ger> Jim Mathies
# [16:48] <jimm> DGMurdockIII: we should be on nightly in a couple weeks.
# [16:49] <jimm> beta, meh, maybe a couple months
# [16:49] <jimm> hard to say at this point when we'll let metrofx roll out with the trains
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# [16:50] <DGMurdockIII> jimm: ok will opting a link in the metro or should i say start screen work by then becse before it would just open the browers not go to the site
# [16:50] <jimm> that should be fixed. try installing the latest elm nightly again.
# [16:51] <jimm> DGMurdockIII: note updates on elm are currently busted, so you have to reinstall to get the latest.
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# [16:51] <DGMurdockIII> jimm: so there fixed i9f install it
# [16:52] <DGMurdockIII> the updates
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# [16:52] <jimm> no
# [16:52] <jimm> updates are bug 826565
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# [16:52] <DGMurdockIII> so i have to download manily each time there a update
# [16:53] <jimm> for now until we get the update problem fixed.
# [16:53] <DGMurdockIII> ok
# [16:53] <jimm> shouldn't be too long.
# [16:53] <DGMurdockIII> ok
# [16:53] <jimm> bbond is looking at it.
# [16:53] <jimm> *bbondy
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# [16:53] <DGMurdockIII> good
# [16:53] <bbondy> should be fixed in a bit releng is fixing it now
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# [16:54] <jimm> ah sweet, should be fixed today then.
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# [16:56] <DGMurdockIII> so the fix should be in tomorrow build
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# [17:00] <graememcc> edmorley: will experiment with pulling down comment history and smartly enabling/disabling commenting if comment is already present
# [17:00] <graememcc> edmorley|afk: and sorry for the hassle :(
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# [17:02] <Ms2ger> graememcc, don't you dare apologize, do you know how much time mcMerge has saved us already? :)
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# [17:07] <jdm> oh nooooo benwa
# [17:07] <jdm> see latest comments
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# [17:08] <BenWa> *sigh*
# [17:08] <BenWa> weird, adding that line made the leaks go away :(
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# [17:08] <edmorley|afk> graememcc: s'ok, no problem :-) also this happens so infrequently, may not be worth the reduced marking speed by always checking
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# [17:10] <bsmedberg> oh, nevermind, I figured it out
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# [17:13] <NeilAway> BenWa: observer service will qi for you, just implement weak reference and pass true
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# [17:14] <BenWa> now
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# [17:28] <padenot> ehsan: so, using gcc-4.6 and after a clobber, I've got the same error
# [17:28] <padenot> errors, even
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# [17:30] <@ehsan> padenot: hmm, can you do make MediaBufferDecoder.i in objdir/content/media/webaudio and send me the preprocessed file please?
# [17:30] <@ehsan> I cannot reproduce this on my machine :/
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# [17:31] <padenot> ehsan: paul.cx/public/MediaBufferDecoder.i
# [17:31] <padenot> ehsan: http://paul.cx/public/MediaBufferDecoder.i, sorry
# [17:31] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [17:31] <padenot> in the meantime, I'll see if I can repro on another Linux machine
# [17:32] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [17:32] <padenot> and if all fails, I've got a mac and windows handy
# [17:32] <@ehsan> typedef unsigned uint32_t spx_uint32_t;
# [17:32] <@ehsan> this doesn't look right....
# [17:32] <padenot> ah
# [17:32] <padenot> yes it does not
# [17:33] <@ehsan> padenot: can you try editing speex_config_types.h and take out the unsigned's there?
# [17:33] <padenot> yes, done, rebuilding at the moment
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# [17:33] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [17:33] <@ehsan> padenot: I'll land a patch to take them out
# [17:33] <padenot> okay, it works better, the private method problem remains
# [17:34] <padenot> but then, I can work around that and test you patch, I suppose
# [17:34] <@ehsan> padenot: yeah just make that method public for now I guess
# [17:34] <@ehsan> I'll try to figure out what
# [17:34] <@ehsan> 's going on there
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# [17:39] <@ehsan> padenot: https://gist.github.com/4512120 looks good?
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# [17:41] <padenot> why not typedef uint16_t spx_uint16_t?
# [17:41] <@ehsan> padenot: I can do that
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# [17:41] <@ehsan> padenot: fg
# [17:41] <@ehsan> sorry!
# [17:42] <@ehsan> padenot: better? https://gist.github.com/4512120
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# [17:43] <padenot> yup, looks good :-)
# [17:43] <@ehsan> great!
# [17:43] <@ehsan> thanks for the irc-r+ :)
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> padenot: I have to say, gcc could have given us a better error message...
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# [17:46] <padenot> ehsan, yeah, not sure why it even built on your machine
# [17:46] <padenot> or clang, maybe
# [17:46] <@ehsan> yeah, I use clang
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# [17:46] <@ehsan> apparently it's more forgiving when I'm being stupid
# [17:46] <padenot> heh :-)
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# [17:47] <@ehsan> padenot: btw, is there any good reason why we're not using the tip of libspeex?
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# [17:47] <@ehsan> froydnj: what's the problem?
# [17:47] <padenot> huh, no, I can update it if you feel it is necessary, it's a matter of doing a couple commands
# [17:48] <@ehsan> we don't have any code currently using it, right?
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# [17:48] <@ehsan> froydnj: passes fine locally for me
# [17:48] <padenot> nope, your patch is the only thing that uses it
# [17:48] <@ehsan> padenot: I can file a bug and do that if you think it's a good idea
# [17:48] <@ehsan> ok
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# [17:49] <@ehsan> padenot: I have it ready here if you want I can do that too
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# [17:49] <padenot> ah
# [17:49] <padenot> cool, then :-)
# [17:49] <froydnj> ehsan: huh, weird, it just opens the pb window and sits for me
# [17:50] <@ehsan> hrm, anything on the console?
# [17:50] <froydnj> in addition to a 404 not found for the firstrun page
# [17:50] <@ehsan> froydnj: you're running it as a chrome test right?
# [17:50] <froydnj> I am assuming make mochitest-chrome dtrt
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# [17:51] <@ehsan> I use mach, but yeah, same thing
# [17:51] <froydnj> nothing unusual on the console
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# [17:52] <@ehsan> padenot: lol, nothing has changed in the files that we import! :D
# [17:53] <padenot> r+, then :-)
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# [17:53] <@ehsan> froydnj: I think you need to debug it...
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# [17:53] <froydnj> ehsan: doh, I already have to debug problems with it in my patched tree, was hoping to not have to debug the clean version :)
# [17:54] <@ehsan> heh, sorry!
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# [18:10] <edmorley> yey desktop m3 bustage on b2g18
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# [18:11] <edmorley> well the whole point of switching the tests back on for b2g18 was for devs using the desktop builds
# [18:11] <edmorley> but unsurprisingly after days/weeks of them not being run, things are broken
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# [18:16] <Waldo> edmorley: how certain are you bug 829512 was triggered by bug 818023? given the narrowly-targetedness of the change there, that surprises me
# [18:16] <we11ington> jaws: I tried out the touch events (and example) at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/Touch_events
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# [18:17] <we11ington> jaws: Unfortunately, the touchpad is not recognized there, neither for the iMac or Macbook
# [18:17] <we11ington> So I think it's strictly for touchscreen devices
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# [18:18] <edmorley> Waldo: 2 out of 7 runs failed on the push with the patch, 0 out of 15 on the push prior
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# [18:18] <edmorley> Waldo: and on later pushes, the failure rate seems at least 2 out of 7 if not higher
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# [18:18] <Waldo> edmorley: that's...really surprising, given it should only affect fun.* property accesses
# [18:19] * Waldo looks at the failing test
# [18:19] <edmorley> Waldo: we can retrigger more if needs be, but are 70 mins a pop
# [18:19] <jaws> we11ington: hmmm
# [18:19] <Waldo> lemme take a look at the test first
# [18:19] <jaws> we11ington: can you do anything with mouse events?
# [18:20] <edmorley> Waldo: and to bisect I've already burnt close to a hundred hours of machine time
# [18:20] <we11ington> jaws: I could try using a stub with a mouse--e.g. hold some key and move the mouse and we can pretend that's rotate/pinch/tap, so that we can start working on the actual rotating/pinching/tapping zoom action itself
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# [18:21] <we11ington> jaws: And then after that we can figure out how to recognize the gesture itself
# [18:21] <we11ington> I'm currently looking at this: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/cocoa/conceptual/EventOverview/HandlingTouchEvents/HandlingTouchEvents.html
# [18:21] <jaws> ok that sounds good
# [18:21] <jaws> we11ington: ^
# [18:21] <we11ington> jaws: Roger that!
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# [18:31] <@ehsan> espadrine: ping
# [18:31] <@ehsan> sorry
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# [18:32] <@ehsan> does anybody know C++ here?
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# [18:33] <@ehsan> bz: I have a real question :/
# [18:33] <@bz> I don't know C++
# [18:33] <@bz> But I can try the question...
# [18:34] <@ehsan> is this program valid? https://gist.github.com/4512508
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# [18:34] <@bz> I think you want "friend class ::X"
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# [18:34] <@ehsan> is that required in C++?
# [18:34] <@bz> At least our compilers want that
# [18:34] <@ehsan> clang accepts my program as is
# [18:35] <@ehsan> g++ requires ::X
# [18:35] <@bz> mmm
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# [18:35] <@ehsan> sadface
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# [18:35] <@ehsan> bz: thanks anyways :)
# [18:35] <@bz> dzbarsky ran into this recently..
# [18:36] <@bz> fwiw, another issue he ran into was when X is a function, not a class
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# [18:37] <@bz> So "friend foo ::something();
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# [18:37] <@bz> Note that written that way it works for some values of foo but not others in clang
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# [18:37] <@bz> Which seems like a clang bug
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# [18:38] <@bz> friend foo (::something()); works no matter what foo is, iirc.
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# [18:38] <jaws> jimm: ping?
# [18:38] <jimm> jandem: pong
# [18:38] <jimm> oops
# [18:38] <jimm> jaws: pong
# [18:38] <jaws> jimm: is it possible to use the dom touch events with a mac trackpad?
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# [18:39] <@ehsan> bz: Rafael tells me that he _thinks_ if the name has already been declared, friend should not attempt to re-declare it
# [18:39] <NeilAway> bz: well, friend int ::foo() means that foo is a function that returns in that's a friend, but friend tni::foo() means that foo is a method of class tni, or something?
# [18:39] <@ehsan> bz: which would make the g++ behavior incorrect
# [18:39] <jimm> hmm, smaug might know. I don't think those are hooked up.
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# [18:39] <jaws> jimm: what do you mean by "those"?
# [18:39] <@bz> ehsan: I'd trust Rafael mon this stuff. ;) More than me, certainly.
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# [18:40] <jimm> I don't think the mac track pad is hooked up to send w3c touch events
# [18:40] <jimm> could be wrong though.
# [18:40] <jaws> ok i see
# [18:41] <jimm> I think the mac track pad sends moz simple gestures
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# [18:42] <jaws> which don't make their way to content
# [18:43] <jimm> nope
# [18:43] <jaws> thanks for the help
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# [18:45] <jimm> jaws: android and windows only at this point - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=nsTouchEvent
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# [18:49] <jaws> i'll have to find some other things in the meantime though
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# [18:56] <Waldo> ehsan, bz: I think friend class X is okay; spec seems to say you don't have to have qualification, and refers to lookup rules that go through namespaces and scopes and such to determine the referent
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# [18:57] <@ehsan> Waldo: hmm, so, g++ bug?
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# [18:58] <NeilAway> grr, one of my builds keeps on trying to add a bogus overlay, I wouldn't mind execpt that a missing overlay file breaks the document :s
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# [19:02] <Waldo> dholbert: are you going to be in SF today?
# [19:02] <dholbert> Waldo, nope
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# [19:02] <Waldo> hm, maybe I *should* move to fantasai's desk then
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# [19:02] <dholbert> or margaret's
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# [19:03] <Waldo> last time I tried that it didn't quite work, so I'm a little hesitant to do that :-)
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# [19:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d8fb6754827 - Chris Peterson - Bug 826784 - Fix Android warnings in sydneyaudio. r=doublec
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# [19:14] <we11ington> jaws: is img.style.height an acceptable way to zoom on an image?
# [19:15] <we11ington> (and width, of course)
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# [19:17] <jaws> we11ington: yeah, and iirc, if you only set one the other will adjust to keep the aspect ratio
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# [19:20] <jaws> we11ington, you can also look at http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ to find some good first bugs to work on
# [19:20] <jaws> we11ington: can you work on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719318 in the meantime?
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# [19:29] <@bz> Anyone have any idea where https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829671 should go?
# [19:29] <@bz> 'cause Core is not it
# [19:30] <Waldo> maybe servicenowish
# [19:30] <jhammel> service no wish?
# [19:30] * Waldo can't believe bz still semi-triages Core::General
# [19:30] <@bz> That's not a bugzilla component I can reassign to!
# [19:30] <@bz> Waldo: I'm a glutton for punishment
# [19:30] <Waldo> bz: could be worse, at least you're not sending off your ldap password to a random third party
# [19:31] <Waldo> ...oh wait
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# [19:31] <jhammel> never! ;)
# [19:32] <jhammel> maybe when i start looking at our public release dashboards that are supposed to be public ;)
# [19:32] <mccr8> Just change your password before you submit the request, then change it back afterwards.
# [19:33] <mccr8> as a bonus, it may stop you from having to change your LDAP password...
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# [19:33] <derf> mccr8: You can't change it back.
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# [19:35] <Waldo> mccr8: I change my ldap password so I don't have to change my LDAP password, got it
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# [19:36] <Matti> bz: I moved bug 829671
# [19:37] <derf> Waldo: I mean, it could be worse: http://gigaom.com/2013/01/10/nokia-yes-we-decrypt-your-https-data-but-dont-worry-about-it/
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# [19:40] <@bz> Matti: thanks
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# [19:40] <Waldo> derf: impressive
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# [19:41] <margaret> Waldo: i'm in berlin
# [19:41] <margaret> so i won't be making to the office today :)
# [19:41] <@bz> I can write an article like that
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# [19:41] <Waldo> margaret: oh, heh
# [19:41] <@bz> Mozilla: Yes, we decrypt your HTTPS data, but don't worry about it
# [19:41] <Matti> derf: Opera does the same with their Opera mini (?) browser
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# [19:42] <biesi> Matti, I thought they do it for non-SSL only
# [19:42] <Waldo> Matti: yes, and that page points to an Opera FAQ page that's clear about that happening
# [19:42] <@bz> I mean... taking the first sentence of the linked article:
# [19:42] <Waldo> er
# [19:42] <@bz> "Nokia has confirmed reports that its Xpress Browser decrypts data that flows through HTTPS connections"
# [19:42] <@bz> Just sayin'.... Firefox does that!
# [19:42] <derf> bz: Well, yes, but I can look at the source and see what Firefox does with it.
# [19:42] <@bz> I mean, I suppose we could just dump the encrypted blob on the screen somehow
# [19:42] <Waldo> yeah, Opera's upfront about it
# [19:42] <@bz> derf: well, yes. ;)
# [19:42] <@bz> s/Firefox/IE/ or s/Firefox/Chrome/ then
# [19:42] <derf> Now, IE on the other hand...
# [19:42] <derf> They could be doing anything!
# [19:43] <derf> Quick, to the blogs!
# [19:43] <jhammel> good idea, i'll write a bug to dump the encrypted blob
# [19:43] <@bz> or Safari
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# [19:44] <Waldo> jhammel: I hear that's how shaver reads secure pages #shaverfacts
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# [19:51] <Deathspike> Hello, I'm not sure this is entirely the appropriate channel, but here goes. I'm trying to get FireFox to prompt for file download as soon as it receives the HTTP header with Content-Disposition attachment, but it seems to be ignoring whatever I do. The actual content body STARTS after a few seconds and I want to get the visual clue to the user as soon as possible. What could be my problem?
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# [19:52] <humph> bz: bless you for documenting how to convert things to use these webidl bindings
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# [19:53] <@bz> humph: You're welcome. ;)
# [19:53] <@bz> humph: it still needs a lot of work (the doc)....
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# [19:53] <humph> well, it's 100% better than nothing
# [19:54] <@bz> humph: Agreed. ;)
# [19:54] <humph> is the plan to move everything over to it?
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# [19:54] <@bz> humph: all web-exposed stuff
# [19:54] <@bz> humph: things like nsIChannel or whatnot, probably not.
# [19:54] <humph> but HTML stuff, I'm thinking of audio and video
# [19:54] <humph> they will end up there
# [19:54] <@bz> humph: yes
# [19:55] <@bz> Deathspike: So you send the headers and the blank line?
# [19:55] <@bz> Deathspike: then take some time to start sending body bytes?
# [19:56] <@bz> Deathspike: It's entirely possible the HTTP impl doesn't call OnStartRequest until the first body byte....
# [19:56] <Deathspike> bz: Correct. It can take up to ~10 seconds before the first byte starts to arrive at firefox because I'm doing heavy processing before sending a file over.
# [19:56] <@bz> Deathspike: do you have a url?
# [19:56] <@bz> Deathspike: I can at least take a look at what's happening, if so
# [19:56] <Deathspike> bz: Local dev, I can open a port, one moment.
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# [19:57] <rillian> humph: the docs are definitely better than the situation with xpcom
# [19:57] <humph> yeah
# [19:57] <humph> I remember having to do it with quick stubs
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# [19:58] <@bz> humph: this stuff should be much nicer than quickstubs
# [19:58] <humph> it is already :)
# [19:58] <@bz> I meant in terms of actually doing it. ;)
# [19:58] <humph> yes
# [19:58] * humph is doing it now
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# [19:58] <@bz> humph: out of curiosity, what are you converting?
# [19:59] <rillian> go humph
# [19:59] <humph> track element
# [19:59] <rillian> and associtiate TextTrack objects
# [19:59] <rillian> *associated
# [19:59] <humph> yeah
# [19:59] <Deathspike> bz: I have sent you a PM with the address.
# [19:59] <humph> bz: from a patch vs. in tree
# [19:59] <@bz> Deathspike: looking
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# [19:59] <@bz> humph: ah, ok
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# [20:00] <rillian> humph: we should probably open new bugs for each section of the patch
# [20:00] <humph> agreed
# [20:00] <rillian> do you want to ask the students to do that or should I?
# [20:01] <humph> maybe you do one and ask them to follow your lead
# [20:01] <jcranmer> espindola: ping
# [20:01] <humph> rillian: so they have a template
# [20:01] <espindola> jcranmer: pong
# [20:02] <jcranmer> espindola: how good are you at comprehending link issues on mac?
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# [20:03] <espindola> not sure I know the scale :-)
# [20:03] <espindola> what is the issue?
# [20:03] <jcranmer> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18721528&tree=Try&full=1
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# [20:04] <@bz> Deathspike: yeah, looks to me like the first byte of data is what triggers the call
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# [20:05] <@bz> Deathspike: the "we have headers" notification call, that is
# [20:05] <espindola> jcranmer: check if the clang binary has __ZN5clang11ASTConsumer18HandleTopLevelDeclENS_12DeclGroupRefE defined
# [20:05] <espindola> I think they are stripped on install
# [20:05] <jcranmer> where's the clang binary hosted?
# [20:05] <@bz> Deathspike: if your data is text or HTML, sending a single space might work
# [20:05] <@bz> Deathspike: but if it's other stuff, that obviously won't work.
# [20:06] <espindola> jcranmer: it is a releng machine
# [20:06] <Waldo> well, that's semi-fail, turns out ctalbert is in SF today :-)
# [20:06] <espindola> you should probably ask for access if you want to upload packages
# [20:06] <espindola> rail: ^
# [20:06] <Waldo> at least there's a nearbyish known-open desk :-)
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# [20:06] <jcranmer> espindola: I also lack a mac
# [20:07] <Deathspike> bz: Hm it is binary so that is not an option. Let me try to be sure with a text file tho, thanks for all the help and testing thus far :D
# [20:07] <espindola> ask for that too I guess
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# [20:08] <Deathspike> bz: Yeah, sending a single byte triggers the popup instantly. Oh meh, I can't just emit stuff into binary files. Hm.
# [20:08] <espindola> jcranmer: we do have linux binaries on try too
# [20:08] <zwol> is anyone around who has anything to do with the web console?
# [20:08] <espindola> if linux works for what you are trying
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# [20:08] <jcranmer> yeah, but linux + clang + error-on-warnings + try = lots of compile failures
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# [20:09] <espindola> disabling error-on-warnings might still be the easiest
# [20:09] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: + in tree mozconfigs = easily solved problem ;)
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# [20:10] <@bz> Deathspike: we could try changing how we do the callback there...
# [20:10] <@bz> Deathspike: Not sure how much work that would be
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# [20:12] <Deathspike> bz: I think it would great be for situations such as this, albeit rare. I have noticed, however, that both Opera and Internet Explorer exhibit the same behaviour as FireFox. The only notable difference one I found was Chrome, which seems to parse headers before the first byte content.
# [20:13] <Deathspike> bz: But thanks to your help I now know what the problem is, and I can device a possible solution to deal with my 'problem'. :D
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# [20:13] <@bz> Deathspike: you're welcome.
# [20:14] <mak> edmorley: not sure what happened buyt looks like mcmerged commented 3 times per bug
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# [20:14] <edmorley> mak: it had to be run three times due to bzapi 500s
# [20:15] <edmorley> mak: and it hang due to them (now fixed in m-cMerge)
# [20:15] <mak> edmorley: fine, just wanted to be sure you were aware of that
# [20:15] <edmorley> mak: indeed, thank you :-)
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# [20:21] <ctalbert|mtg> no worries waldo, I'm in meetings for almost the whole day
# [20:21] <Waldo> :-)
# [20:21] <Waldo> and :-(
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# [20:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98c2750c585d - Chris Peterson - Bug 829344 - Part 4: Fix gcc -Wlogical-op warnings from PRBool/bool conversion. r=ehsan
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# [20:30] <Waldo> aaghghgh
# [20:30] <Waldo> who made js_GetClassPrototype friendy again :-(
# [20:31] <Waldo> or, hm
# [20:31] <froydnj> you prefer the crotchety version?
# [20:32] <Waldo> I prefer the externy version
# [20:32] <jhammel> throw Error("You kids get off my lawn!")
# [20:32] <Waldo> although, maybe this was never made non-friendy
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# [20:34] <edmorley> woo no more shoeboxed \o/
# [20:35] <jhammel> edmorley: i'll wait to see if others say the new system is better ;)
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# [20:36] <edmorley> the guide had no mention of exporting to pdf, manually saving and otherwise messing about
# [20:36] <edmorley> so I shall remain positive :-)
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# [20:37] <humph> bz: how about http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2051894 ? Me or bug?
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# [20:38] <@bz> humph: looking
# [20:39] <@bz> humph: spec says this is not valid IDL
# [20:39] <@bz> humph: you can't have a union of primitive types...
# [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9ec22f372ad - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 829621 - Compute the breakpad-id for OS X. r=BenWa.
# [20:39] <@bz> humph: as WebIDL currently stands.
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# [20:40] <humph> so I need to file with w3c
# [20:40] <@bz> humph: I agree in this case this is annoying
# [20:40] <@bz> humph: The intent is so that people can't define different behavior for 5 and "5"....
# [20:40] <@bz> humph: iirc
# [20:40] <humph> yeah, that makes sense
# [20:41] <@bz> humph: if the spec says this is what the IDL looks like right now, then yeah, please file a bug on the spec.
# [20:41] <humph> k
# [20:41] <@bz> But this restriction is kinda annoying. :(
# [20:41] <@bz> Once this is dealt with, there's a further problem
# [20:41] <humph> yeah?
# [20:41] <@bz> Which is that we don't support union return values yet
# [20:42] <@bz> in the code generator
# [20:42] <@bz> We really need to fix that. :(
# [20:42] * @bz notes the "XXX write me" for union types in the docs
# [20:42] <humph> yeah, why I pinged you
# [20:42] <humph> I figured there was some issue
# [20:42] <@bz> Well, the main issue was I was hoping Peter would document it.
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# [20:43] <@bz> Since he understands it better than I do. ;)
# [20:43] <@bz> And it's a huge topic...
# [20:43] * @bz should just start writing and see where he ends up
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# [20:54] <Waldo> ...and fantasai actually is in today
# [20:54] <Waldo> #winning
# [20:54] <Waldo> :-)
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# [20:56] <imelven> anyone feel like reviewing a typo fix to a string in dom.properties in bug 829699 ?
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# [20:57] <Callek> firebot: review my patch
# [20:57] <firebot> Callek: Your patch looks good. r+sr+ui-r+a=mconnor
# [20:57] <Callek> imelven: ^
# [20:57] <imelven> hah !
# [20:57] <@smaug> imelven: done
# [20:57] <imelven> smaug: thanks very much :D
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# [21:00] <humph> bz: other than that issue, all these Just Worked. amazing to be able to copy-paste IDL and have it...work. Nice job :)
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# [21:05] <@bz> humph: Thanks. :)
# [21:05] <@bz> humph: We tried.
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# [21:10] <rstrong> dhylands: does run_test_pt12 always fail in test_0030_general.js on GONK?
# [21:11] <dhylands> rstrong: It seems to be intermittent. It's weird because sometimes it gets the 351 bytes from the httpd.js server and sometimes it gets 0 bytes
# [21:12] <dhylands> rstrong: It shouldn't matter, but storing the data from the server to /mnt/sdcard gives intermittent results, while storing the data from the server to /data seems to be consistent
# [21:13] <@bz> Anyone here understand XUL template and tree builders?
# [21:13] <@smaug> Enn: ^
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# [21:22] <graememcc> edmorley: Getting http://i.imgur.com/apnT4.png working was pretty easy. Adds ~2-5s to "Loading Bugzilla data" . Wait only becomes a bit more noticeable when it comes to the crazy 150+ cset merges
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# [21:23] <edmorley> graememcc: cool
# [21:23] <edmorley> graememcc: thank you
# [21:23] <edmorley> graememcc: uses prior comments?
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# [21:25] <edmorley> graememcc: could we pref this?
# [21:25] <edmorley> graememcc: just to reduce bzapi load if possible :-)
# [21:26] <edmorley> graememcc: ?resume=1
# [21:26] <edmorley> or whatever
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# [21:28] <@smaug> mak: what are the bc failures on aurora?
# [21:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c12c5e31d72f - David Zbarsky - Bug 828715 - Move DOMSVGMatrix to mozilla::dom::SVGMatrix r=longsonr
# [21:29] <mak> smaug: I don't see any..
# [21:30] <mak> smaug: ah previous push? not my fault, they are some strange effect on aurora started from the merge day
# [21:30] <mak> smaug: if you load more changesets you see the previous push is even worse...
# [21:30] <@smaug> ah
# [21:30] <@smaug> ok
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# [21:32] <Waldo> cpeterson: you going to be in SF today at all?
# [21:32] <Waldo> (the office)
# [21:32] <cpeterson> Waldo, nope. Please feel free to sit in my seat. <:)
# [21:32] <Waldo> excellent
# [21:33] <cpeterson> I thought you might end up there from your earlier discussion about sitting in Fantasai and Margaret's chairs. :)
# [21:33] <Waldo> yeah, I've been playing musical chairs
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# [21:37] <cpeterson|lunch> Waldo, http://www.instructables.com/id/Laptop-Compubody-Sock/
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# [21:55] <NeilAway> bz: I thought the point of treebuilder was to avoid constructing a DOM
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# [21:59] <@bz> NeilAway: yes, I mean the DOM reflection of the treebuilder object itself
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# [22:00] <NeilAway> bz: ok, I'm lost here, to me a XUL tree builder is a special tree view that tries to emulate a content template without actually building the content
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# [22:03] <@bz> NeilAway: yes, but there's also a object you can manupulate, right?
# [22:04] <@bz> neilaway: which has getIndexOfResource, addObserver, sort()
# [22:04] <@bz> NeilAway: agreed so far?
# [22:04] <@bz> NeilAway: My question was whether it shoul also have addListener
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# [22:16] <NeilAway> bz: well, it looks as if addListener is for people interested in whether the template gets rebuilt, as opposed to the addObserver which is specific to tree builders
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# [22:18] <@bz> NeilAway: yes
# [22:18] <@bz> NeilAway: But the question stands
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# [22:19] <@bz> NeilAway: if I do .builder on a XUL element, and it's a treebuilder, should I have an addListener?
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# [22:19] <@bz> NeilAway: and if I were to get that treebuilder from somewhere returning nsIXULTreeBuilder, should I still have addListener?
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# [22:19] <NeilAway> bz: I would have thought so
# [22:19] <@bz> Right
# [22:19] <@bz> Well, right now it was not necessarily the case.
# [22:20] <@bz> Since treebuilder doesn't list nsIXULTemplateBuilder in classinfo
# [22:20] <NeilAway> bz: unless you happened to know it was a tree, you would expect a XUL template builder, which would provide addListener
# [22:20] <NeilAway> bz: oops
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# [22:24] <@bz> NeilAway: well, our tests are sure using it
# [22:25] <NeilAway> bz: ah, heh
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# [22:34] <froydnj> I love functions that take a dict of 'options' and then fail to document anything about what sort of keys should be in the dict
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# [22:43] <@smaug> froydnj: are you talking about mutationobserver?
# [22:44] <@smaug> (all the keys are documented)
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# [22:49] <NeilAway> what sort of browser understands document.execCommand(\'SaveAs\'); [sic]
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# [22:53] <@ehsan> NeilAway: MSIE?
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# [22:53] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm not going to log in to check ;-)
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# [23:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b6711fcba29 - Robert Longson - Bug 828246 - Prevent stroke from drawing, on SVG text with a stroke-width of 0. r=dholbert
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# [23:13] <jorendorff> i have to say... this is a pretty damn good day to be a mozillian
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# [23:14] <jhammel> :)
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# [23:14] <jhammel> i have no idea what you're refering to but i'll smile anyway
# [23:14] <jorendorff> it's not just one thing.
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# [23:14] <jorendorff> i know a ton of work went into the machinery behind being able to do this for users: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2013/01/11/protecting-users-against-java-vulnerability/
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# [23:15] <jorendorff> Firefox OS is about to ship
# [23:15] <jorendorff> oh and it so happens we're funding the future of software in science? http://climatecode.org/blog/2013/01/chasing-the-dream/
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# [23:16] <jhammel> nice :)
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# [23:16] <@dveditz> jorendorff: thanks for the climatecode link, didn't know about that
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# [23:18] <jorendorff> PDF.js is in beta.
# [23:18] <jorendorff> and none of that is even the latest thing i can't stop showing off to my friends; that would be the new research projects page https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/research/projects/
# [23:19] <jfkthame> hmm, is there supposed to be a comment captcha on that blog.m.o page? it's not showing up for me
# [23:19] <jfkthame> there's a "Security Code:
# [23:19] <@roc> I should get rr added to that list
# [23:19] <jfkthame> " field, but no clue what to enter in it
# [23:20] <rillian> jorendorff: btw, does pdf.js work on fennec? someone was asking me about that yesterday
# [23:20] <yury> rillian: it did at one point
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# [23:23] <rillian> yury: seems to work fine. I guess it's just not included by default
# [23:23] <yury> yep
# [23:23] <rillian> well "fine" it's quite sluggish on my tablet
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# [23:24] <yury> rillian: b2g has light version, probably we need to create something like that for android as well
# [23:25] <jhammel> i'm guessing i don't want/need to know as an end user what the light version is?
# [23:26] <yury> how about pdf.js for mobile devices :)
# [23:26] <jhammel> heh; your tautology is a delicious delicacy
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# [23:26] <jfkthame> if it's a version that runs faster and/or uses less resources, it sounds like we should use it everywhere :)
# [23:27] <rillian> yury: cool, I hadn't tried a pdf on b2g. Even more painfully slow, but at least I can read things :)
# [23:27] <yury> uses less resources
# [23:28] <yury> (no text find, text selection)
# [23:28] <jhammel> ah
# [23:28] <jfkthame> yeah, i figured it must be less full-featured
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# [23:32] <jhammel> jfkthame: nah, they just remove the lines after /* begin bloat here */
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# [23:33] <jfkthame> ah yes… it's always good to include some of those, so that when management asks you to slim things down, you have an easy fix up your sleeve ;)
# [23:33] <jhammel> yeah, exactly!
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