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# Session Start: Thu Jan 17 00:00:00 2013
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# [00:00] <John-Galt> Does anyone happen to know if this is a stupidly dangrous way for an NPAPI plugin to decide whether a website should be able to access its privileged APIs? https://github.com/codebendercc/npapiPlugins/blob/master/Codebendercc/CodebenderccAPI.h#L81
# [00:00] <@ehsan> roc: give me a sec please
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# [00:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29288a6d1876 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 820839 - Draw OSX titlebar content into a retained buffer during the ThebesLayer painting phase, before we clear invalidation state. r=roc
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# [00:02] <@roc> John-Galt: asking users to make decisions like that is always stupid
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# [00:03] <John-Galt> roc: Yeah, I agree with that part. I'm asking more from a technical perspective.
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# [00:03] <@ehsan> roc: so, AudioNode::Connect should ensure that you never succeed in adding inputs more than MaxNumberOfInputs
# [00:03] <@ehsan> same with outputs
# [00:03] <@ehsan> does that not work correctly?
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# [00:04] <dzbarsky> philor|away: I see it, but I don't think it's me
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# [00:04] <njn> cpeterson: in several Makefiles we do |CXXFLAGS := $(filter-out -pedantic,$(CXXFLAGS))| :)
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# [00:04] <dzbarsky> philor|away: looks like its https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/780c48afccc1
# [00:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbe92fdbabc7 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 462197 - Part 2: The "Remove All Reports" button in about:crashes should remove old InstallTime files. r=ted
# [00:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eca602d98d14 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 828228 - Measure nsSearchService init with Telemetry. r=gavin
# [00:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be9dfaa088b2 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 462197 - Part 1: Use the variable name submittedDir instead of the misleading name reportsDir. r=ted
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# [00:05] <@roc> John-Galt: I'm not 100% sure but I suspect the enclosing Web page could do something like window.confirm = function() { return true; }
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# [00:06] <@roc> also, doing synchronous JS evaluation like this is horrible for various reasons.
# [00:06] <@roc> mostly not to do with security.
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# [00:06] <@roc> ehsan: that's wrong
# [00:07] <@ehsan> why?
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# [00:07] <@roc> ehsan: see my previous messages. For AudioGainNode for example, there is no limit to the number of connected input nodes you can have.
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# [00:07] <@roc> the problem is confusion over the term "input"
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# [00:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/47a91ed9da72 - Chris Peterson - Bug 829912 - Check for null IME hints. r=jchen a=lsblakk
# [00:07] <@roc> "numberOfInputs" does not count the number of input *nodes*, but the number of input *ports*
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# [00:08] <abr> Does anyone here already have a cheatsheet typed up someone about how to use distcc with mach?
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# [00:08] <abr> s/someone/somewhere/
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# [00:08] <blassey> seems like we shouldn't have tests that rely on the font on the machine
# [00:08] <John-Galt> roc: Thanks. That's pretty much what I was afraid of.
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# [00:08] <@roc> uh oh
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# [00:08] <@roc> RUN
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# [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f46f173ffe9 - Ed Morley - Backout 780c48afccc1 (bug 831354) for Android reftest failures on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:09] <qDot> I was just thinking I needed some base64 porn.
# [00:09] <John-Galt> Heh
# [00:09] <jhammel> qDot: TOTALLY!
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# [00:09] <jhammel> too bad ehsan kicked him before we even got to the good parts
# [00:09] <@ehsan> roc: this is what the spec says: "The number of inputs feeding into the AudioNode."
# [00:09] <qDot> Awww man he stopped before it got good.
# [00:09] <@roc> yes
# [00:09] <@roc> NOT input nodes
# [00:09] <@roc> but input ports
# [00:09] <@roc> that is why numberOfInputs for a GainNode is always 1 in Chrome
# [00:10] <@roc> whether you connect 0, 1, 2 or more nodes into it
# [00:10] <@ehsan> so you can connect more than one input node to a gain node?
# [00:10] <@ehsan> hrm
# [00:10] <@roc> absolutely
# [00:10] <@ehsan> roc: so what do "ports" mean?
# [00:10] <@roc> it's a term I just made up because the spec just calls them "inputs" which is horribly confusing
# [00:10] <@roc> so most nodes treat all their inputs the same; everything just gets mixed together and then processed
# [00:11] <@roc> so they only need a single input port
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# [00:11] <gps> abr: mach + distcc should be no different from client.mk + distcc
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# [00:11] <@roc> but when a node needs to treat different inputs in different ways, the numberOfInputs > 1
# [00:11] <@ehsan> hmm
# [00:11] <@roc> currently I believe the only node that does this is ChannelMergerNode
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# [00:12] <@ehsan> roc: ok yeah then I completely misunderstood the spec :(
# [00:12] <@ehsan> and that code is horribly broken
# [00:12] <@roc> okay
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# [00:12] <@roc> I'll fix it.
# [00:12] <@ehsan> roc: thanks!
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# [00:12] <abr> gps -- okay, no subtle gotchas, then. I really haven't taken time to dig into mach, and there seems to be a lot of magic built into it. Thanks.
# [00:13] <@roc> do you want to post to the list to get the spec clarified, or should I?
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# [00:13] <@ehsan> roc: please do so, you seem to have a much better understanding of things here :)
# [00:13] <@ehsan> roc: I guess my mistake was not paying attention to the Merger and Splitter nodes... :(
# [00:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/581b2c43af07 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 825786 - crash in nsAutoCompleteController::HandleDelete.
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# [00:14] <@roc> in fact the spec uses the term "inputs" to mean different things in different places
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# [00:15] <Waldo> njn, jcranmer: I filed a bug a long time ago to make us compile with -std=gnu99; it fell over because of tinderboxen compiling (l10n repacking, not actual building) with gcc < 4.2 (this was before 4.2 was a compiler requirement); I don't know if the tinderboxen have been updated enough to let us reland it or not
# [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e270f015e0e1 - Trevor Saunders - bug 822289 - remove NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_CLASS and friends r=mccr8
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# [00:17] <Waldo> njn, jcranmer: bug 721837 to update those tinderboxen, and bug 719659 to make us use -std=gnu99
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# [00:18] <jcranmer> Waldo: one problem I know of is that RHEL5 glibc is too old to compile with C99
# [00:18] <Waldo> SpiderMonkey no longer compiles as C and so doesn't trigger those warnings any more, but there are qcms headers that use C99 stuff in gcc's c89 mode still, that warned less due to the change
# [00:18] <jcranmer> makes clang work very difficulty
# [00:19] <Waldo> jcranmer: the only issue we ran into on tinderboxen making the change were the l10n repackers, and maybe SeaMonkey, but those should have been updated when m-c required 4.2
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# [00:20] <blassey> anyway, this log has the data URIs I was trying to paste https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=18869036&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error2
# [00:21] <Waldo> heh
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# [00:24] <gkw> smaug: ping again - this time about doc not having a null check in http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/annotate/38b4e57fc168/dom/base/nsDOMWindowUtils.cpp#l1355
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# [00:25] <gkw> smaug: does the same concept apply?
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# [00:25] <@smaug> looking
# [00:26] <@smaug> gkw: doc is null checked
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# [00:26] <@smaug> and nsCOMPtr keeps it alive
# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7743e1e31e4 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 827824 - Use uint8_t for mTxInlineFrame. r=mcmanus
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# [00:28] <sstangl> is aurora intended to be open? "remote: Unable to check if the tree is open - treating as if CLOSED"
# [00:28] <gkw> smaug: but i see crashes in that function https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/737fd024-4249-427c-9fd0-551342130110
# [00:28] <gkw> smaug: aFlushLayout may be null instead, and it may lack a null check
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# [00:29] <@smaug> gkw: hmm, not a line which could crash..
# [00:30] <gkw> smaug: the line in the crash report points to http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/annotate/c23c45132139/dom/base/nsDOMWindowUtils.cpp#l1302
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# [00:30] <@smaug> gkw: and that makes no sense
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# [00:31] <gkw> smaug: ? the crash report makes no sense? or line that it's pointed to?
# [00:31] * gkw isn't really getting it
# [00:31] <@smaug> the line it points to doesn't make sense
# [00:32] <@smaug> there can't be null pointer crash there
# [00:32] <njn> dholbert: do you think -pedantic is at all useful? I'm in the process of writing a patch that removes it. We explicitly strip it out of the CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS in 13 Makefiles
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# [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f28e36cd272 - Chris Peterson - Bug 831188 - Don't list inactive plugins (blocklisted or disabled) on about:plugins. r=bsmedberg
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# [00:32] <gkw> smaug: well.. there is indeed a recent null crash at that aFlushLayout line through https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/737fd024-4249-427c-9fd0-551342130110
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# [00:33] <gkw> hg blame points to gavin|away but gavin is away
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# [00:34] <edmorley|away> believe phx issues about to hit again (bug 831353 comment 6)
# [00:35] <gkw> edmorley|away: :(
# [00:35] <@smaug> gkw: I'd say that is somehow invalid crash report
# [00:35] <derf> njn: -Wpointer-arith is useful (though you could enable that explicitly).
# [00:35] <njn> derf: we already do!
# [00:35] <njn> :)
# [00:35] <derf> Brilliant.
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# [00:36] <gkw> smaug: well, there's https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/d5bf1603-9043-4876-aad0-9302d2130110 and https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/3d85e94a-19ba-42d6-abe2-7a6172130110
# [00:36] <njn> derf: probably because it is useful, and we disable -pedantic so often
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# [00:37] <@smaug> gkw: yup, and those aren't helpful either
# [00:37] <@smaug> unfortunatelyl
# [00:37] <gkw> smaug: i see. how do we differentiate between bogus and correct stack traces then?
# [00:37] <Jesse> njn: what are you removing -pedantic from?
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# [00:38] <njn> Jesse: CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, for GCC and clang
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# [00:38] <@smaug> gkw: by looking at if the stack trace makes sense
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# [00:39] <gkw> smaug: i see
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# [00:39] <jdm> sstangl: the answer is no, I'm pretty sure.
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# [00:42] <dholbert> njn, I'm not sure... I forget which warnings are from -pedantic vs. not
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# [00:42] <njn> dholbert: the short answer is "all the annoying, stupid ones" :)
# [00:42] <njn> except -Wpointer-arith, which we enable separately
# [00:42] <njn> dholbert: I'll CC you on the bug
# [00:42] <njn> when I file it
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# [00:43] <dholbert> njn, cool. I don't have strong feelings
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# [00:44] <zwol> this is kind of a weird question, but,
# [00:45] <zwol> yesterday i was running some of the mochitests locally and it was really ridiculously slow even for a debug build.
# [00:45] <zwol> today, back to being reasonably fast.
# [00:45] <zwol> any idea what might've changed?
# [00:45] <NeilAway> njn: str.Replace(0, 3, "blah", 4); ?
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# [00:46] <bholley> jduell: nevermind
# [00:46] <njn> NeilAway: where is that defined? I only see 3-arg versions of Replace()
# [00:47] <njn> NeilAway: oh, I think I found it
# [00:47] <NeilAway> njn: nsTSubstring.h line 392
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# [00:48] <NeilAway> njn: you can also use the string and let it strlen, or NS_LITERAL_CSTRING("blah") also works
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# [01:12] <NeilAway> dholbert: we won't turn off -Wtype-limits will we?
# [01:12] <dholbert> NeilAway, I hope not
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# [01:13] <dholbert> NeilAway, ask njn if that's part of his pedantic-removal plan. I assume not
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# [01:13] <njn> NeilAway: Wtype-limits is enabled separately
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# [01:16] <Waldo> jcranmer, njn: it looks like l10n repack machines are now using a newer gcc, so I think I'm going to try getting that patch back in to compile with c99 with gcc; cross your fingers
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# [01:16] <NeilAway> dholbert: sorry for pinging you instead of njn
# [01:16] <NeilAway> njn: phew ;-)
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# [01:16] <njn> Waldo: interestingly, disabling -pedantic gets rid of a bunch of the "this is C99 only " warnings
# [01:16] <Waldo> NeilAway: -Wtype-limits controls things like warning on assigning uint64_t into uint32_t, right?
# [01:17] <NeilAway> Waldo: I was more worried about the uint < 0 warning
# [01:17] <Waldo> NeilAway: ah
# [01:17] <njn> -Wtype-limits
# [01:17] <njn> Warn if a comparison is always true or always false due to the
# [01:17] <njn> limited range of the data type, but do not warn for constant
# [01:17] <njn> expressions. For example, warn if an unsigned variable is compared
# [01:17] <njn> against zero with < or >=. This warning is also enabled by
# [01:17] <njn> -Wextra.
# [01:17] <Waldo> ah, yes, that's good stuff
# [01:17] <njn> Waldo: I'll include a diff of the warnings after removing -pedantic
# [01:17] <Waldo> SpiderMonkey turned off...something...about possible type overflow on implicit conversions; I want to reenable it at some point
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# [01:17] <njn> lots of annoying stuff, nothing I'll be sad to see go
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# [01:18] <Waldo> espindola: so, I think I might be able to land bug 719659 again, now that l10n repack machines seem to use a newer gcc -- can I carry your r+ over on the patch there?
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# [01:19] <dholbert> Waldo, I don't think linux compilers warn at all about assigning uint64_t into uint32_t on linux
# [01:19] <dholbert> erm s/on linux// (redundancy redundancy)
# [01:19] <dholbert> Waldo, just about signed/unsigned comparisons (and maybe assignments?)
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# [01:25] <Waldo> dholbert: sorry, MSVC warning 4244, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/th7a07tz.aspx
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# [01:27] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah, that's the one
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# [01:27] <dholbert> We hit tons of instances of that, unfortunately
# [01:28] <dholbert> It's depressing & annoying to fix, so I usually just don't think about it :)
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# [01:28] <Waldo> it's pretty easy to add the cast, if the conversion is known safe
# [01:29] <Waldo> I'd like to add something to mfbt in the way of checked cast methods, so you could use those and get assertions if something untoward happens
# [01:29] <Waldo> haven't had the time
# [01:29] <Waldo> and it'd be gnarly like CheckedInt is gnarly
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# [01:31] <espindola> Waldo, looking
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# [01:33] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah. it's the "if the conversion is known safe" that's the tricky part
# [01:33] <dholbert> Waldo, and what to do if it's not safe
# [01:33] <espindola> Waldo, go for it
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# [01:33] <Waldo> espindola: excellent
# [01:33] <espindola> we might be able to even remove the -fgnu89-inline
# [01:33] <Waldo> ooh, really?
# [01:33] <espindola> but we can test that in another patch if you want
# [01:34] <Waldo> (but of course I am going to FOLLOWUP THAT TO PIECES :-) )
# [01:34] <espindola> yes, glibc was upgraded too
# [01:34] <JonathanS> hsivonen, did you wrote HTML5 parser in java or adopted the code from?
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# [01:37] <espindola> do I have to do anything special to get js error on the windows terminal?
# [01:37] <espindola> I am passing -attach-console
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# [01:38] <espindola> and it is printing the MOZ_EVENT_TRACE
# [01:38] <espindola> but even js parser errors are not printing :-(
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# [01:40] <reuben> JonathanS, https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/htmlparser/shortlog/ac6723bd8be8 :)
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# [01:40] <njn> Waldo, dholbert, derf, NeilAway: see bug 394311 about removing -pedantic
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# [01:41] <gps> njn: FYI mach may not capture all compiler warnings. specifically, it may miss warnings from NSS and other projects that have their own build system
# [01:42] <espindola> dump works at least :-(
# [01:42] <njn> gps: eh, I think it gets enough to demonstrate things
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# [01:47] <dholbert> njn, hmm, -Wtype-limits is listed in the warnings diff at https://bug394311.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=703103 -- so that would be going away after all?
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# [01:49] <njn> dholbert: that's a diff
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# [01:49] <njn> look for the +/- lines
# [01:49] <njn> better still, view it as a patch
# [01:49] <dholbert> njn, ahh
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# [01:51] <dholbert> njn, cool. I don't feel like any of the removed warnings are particularly useful
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# [01:51] <njn> dholbert: indeed
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# [01:52] <jrmuizel> https://metrics.mozilla.com/data/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=community&path=%2Fdashboards&file=contributorMap.wcdf
# [01:53] <Waldo> for no reason related to the bug itself, I find the bug summary for bug 517535 highly amusing right now
# [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b9ecdf2995d - Jeff Hammel - Bug 831081 - kill VirtualenvManager._check_output() now that we require python 2.7;r=gps
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# [01:55] <RyanVM> oh dear, 50 bugs approval to land on aurora that haven't
# [01:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/836eb526e5fe - Daniel Holbert - Followup to Bug 821292: Remove unneeded semicolon after NS_INLINE_DECL_THREADSAFE_REFCOUNTING(), to fix build warning.
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# [01:56] <mccr8> RyanVM: Aurora is closed.
# [01:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdc7bbbc2eea - Fabrice Desré - Bug 830294 - Can't launch an app after canceling its update r=ferjm
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# [01:58] <espindola> vladan, do you know
# [01:58] <espindola> ?
# [01:58] <espindola> (why js error would not be printed on windows)
# [01:58] <espindola> while dump works
# [01:59] <vladan> espindola: what is throwing the JS error?
# [01:59] <vladan> chrome or content?
# [01:59] <espindola> vladan, about:telemetry
# [01:59] <espindola> on OS X I get an error if I do something like
# [01:59] <espindola> no_such_func()
# [01:59] <espindola> I am almost sure I used to get it on windows too
# [02:00] <espindola> bu not anymore
# [02:00] <vladan> espindola: do you have all the logging-type configs set? https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Setting_up_extension_development_environment#Development_preferences
# [02:00] <vladan> and where are you checking for errors? in the JS error console?
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# [02:00] <espindola> vladan, terminal
# [02:00] <espindola> that is where it used to print
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# [02:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/871089b35c46 - David Zbarsky - Bug 830181: SVGSymbolElement should QI to SVGTests r=me
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# [02:03] <RyanVM> mccr8: that would do it (hadn't actually loaded it in tbpl yet)
# [02:03] <Waldo> espindola: I think if you add -console to the command line it'll get printed; it's a Windows thing
# [02:03] <espindola> Waldo, I am using -attach-console
# [02:04] <espindola> and dump works
# [02:04] <Waldo> oddment
# [02:04] <Waldo> and you have reached the edge of my knowledge :-)
# [02:04] <firebot> Check-in:
# [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13c970f6a2e4 - Jeff Walden - Add a JSObject::addDataProperty overload that takes Handle<PropertyName*>, to preserve the name/element distinction further when possible, anticipating future
# [02:04] <firebot> property-splitting work. No bug, r=sparky
# [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93822863127e - Jeff Walden - Bug 719659 - Add -std=gnu99 to CFLAGS so that gcc and friends permit use of C99 constructs without warnings. This doesn't mean that everything in C99 is permitted now --
# [02:04] <RyanVM> mccr8: oh wow, they actually closed aurora for that
# [02:04] <firebot> only the stuff supported by all the compilers we care about, including MSVC. r=espindola
# [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e3ecf55210d - Jeff Walden - Bug 830871 - Remove JS_FRIEND_API from js_GetClassPrototype as it isn't (and shouldn't be) used outside SpiderMonkey. r=jorendorff
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# [02:06] <espindola> ok, looks like I just have to use -jsconsole and look at yet another window :-(
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# [02:08] <vladan> espindola: oic
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# [02:08] <vladan> yeah i usually just use the JS error console
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# [02:09] <espindola> man, I had a better dev environment coding in assembly for dos :-(
# [02:09] <@ehsan> Waldo: you know that we don't have a push hook to check for r= in the commit message, right?
# [02:09] <Waldo> ehsan: yes
# [02:09] <@ehsan> good!
# [02:09] <Waldo> ehsan: eibti
# [02:09] <@ehsan> eibti?
# [02:10] <Waldo> explicit is better than implicit
# [02:10] <@ehsan> false!
# [02:10] <Waldo> true!
# [02:10] <Waldo> I win
# [02:10] <Waldo> ;-)
# [02:10] <@ehsan> gah
# [02:10] <@ehsan> well
# [02:10] <@ehsan> you lost
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# [02:10] <@ehsan> cause if you wanna be explicit that you didn't get a review, you just don't pretend you did
# [02:10] <@ehsan> boom!
# [02:11] <@dolske> some day a developer will show up who goes by 'sparky' and is going to be really confused.
# [02:11] <KWierso> r=yourmother
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# [02:12] <@ehsan> dolske: sparky is the nearest translation of my last name into English
# [02:12] <@ehsan> true story!
# [02:12] <@ehsan> I should just start going by that nick
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# [02:13] <Waldo> ehsan++
# [02:13] <jorendorff> but then you will be blamed for whatever crazy thing Waldo wants to push
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# [02:13] <@dolske> I shall henceforth call you sparkly
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# [02:13] * Waldo will switch to lumpy
# [02:13] <Waldo> but sparky shall live forever in our hearts :-(
# [02:13] <jorendorff> Waldo: I am trying to refactor EmitVariables, and failing
# [02:13] <@sparky> jorendorff: no then I will back him out and say he's lying, I never reviewed that patch
# [02:13] <Waldo> jorendorff: understandable
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# [02:14] <Waldo> jorendorff: and possibly you want #jsapi
# [02:14] <Mook_as> espindola: if you like to crash a lot, there's https://github.com/mook/logophile ... (mainly because js isn't threadsafe)
# [02:14] <@sparky> dolske: for reference: <http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/%D8%A7%D8%AE%DA%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C>
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# [02:16] <@dolske> huh, what's it doing, a partial phoenetic "translation"? http://cl.ly/image/1j0j1h033e0B
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# [02:16] <@dolske> oh, it fails at Auto for me.
# [02:16] <Waldo> dolske: holy zoom-in batman!
# [02:16] <@ehsan> dolske: that probably just knows arabic, it's skipping the two chars in there which are not in arabic
# [02:16] <@dolske> Retina FTW
# [02:16] <KWierso> dolske: if you change the destination language to spanish, the source language changes to persian
# [02:16] <KWierso> but the translation ends up in english :\
# [02:17] <@ehsan> nice job, google!
# [02:17] <@ehsan> dolske: click on the Persian button on the top left perhaps?
# [02:17] <@ehsan> maybe that fixes it
# [02:17] <@dolske> yeah, it works.
# [02:17] <@ehsan> \o/
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# [02:17] <@dolske> at least, now I just believe you've sparklebombed google. ;)
# [02:18] <@ehsan> lol
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# [02:18] <@ehsan> how fast do you think you can sparklebomb it? ;)
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# [02:18] <@dolske> huh. http://cl.ly/image/1Y033D2h1F0W
# [02:19] <@ehsan> gets that one right too!
# [02:19] <@ehsan> I bet that it won't get your name right
# [02:19] <@dolske> nope, it's perfect! http://cl.ly/image/3s3E2c3r3x46
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# [02:20] <@ehsan> lol
# [02:20] <@dolske> "Dolske" is a universal constant.
# [02:20] <@ehsan> yeah we decided to add some new letters to the alphabet just for you :P
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# [02:22] <KWierso> hey, my name works if I force source language to german!
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# [02:29] <@roc> I sometimes wish C++ classes could have virtual constants
# [02:29] <Waldo> I've heard dbaron mention wanting that too
# [02:30] <@roc> so so cases like "virtual int GetValue() const = 0;" where every subclass overrides with a function that returns some constant, could be implemented more efficiently
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# [02:31] <Jesse> i was thinking the same thing
# [02:31] <@dolske> I was thinking about cheese.
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# [02:31] <@ehsan> roc: compilers actually do store some integers in the vtable already
# [02:31] <@ehsan> so the language might have exposed this idea as well
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# [02:32] <@roc> sure, it's simple to implement
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# [02:33] <@roc> virtual const int Type;
# [02:33] <Waldo> I wonder if with some linker skulduggery and some manual reinterpret_cast<>ing you could hack it up yourself
# [02:33] <Waldo> tell it to position certain functions at certain addresses, and test for those addresses, and all that
# [02:34] <Waldo> I guess that fails with PIC maybe
# [02:34] <Waldo> maybe
# [02:34] <@roc> your depravity impresses me
# [02:34] <Waldo> heh
# [02:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78e41d936992 - David Zbarsky - Bug 821955 r=longsonr
# [02:34] <Waldo> I can think inventively, doesn't mean I'd do it :-)
# [02:35] <Waldo> this could be useful, tho, we could manually inline virtual calls in well-predicted places, rather than having to rely on PGO
# [02:35] * Waldo wonders how much further he could drag this bad idea out
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# [02:37] <tbsaunde> so, can you have a symbol of size 0 and then make it have an address that isn't actually mapped?
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# [02:38] <tbsaunde> I guess size doesn't actually matter, but if you can then you don't need to worry about pic
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# [02:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2510df9be883 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 831100 - use std::string. r=vladan.
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# [02:45] <jcranmer> Waldo: derived:js::Wrapper?
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# [02:46] <Waldo> jcranmer: thanks, that looks like it'll do
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# [02:46] <Waldo> jcranmer: no way to see a page of the individual enter() implementations, I take it?
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# [02:47] <jcranmer> for some reason, js/src/jswrapper.cpp wasn't indexed
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# [02:47] <cpearce> ehsan: you can use uses of nsHTMLMediaElement::ReportLoadError() as an example of how to log to messages to the web console. that writes localizeable strings.
# [02:48] <Waldo> sadly, it looks like that list might not be complete, either -- it looks like there's a SecurityWrapper<Base>::enter as well (template snafu? or missing jswrapper.cpp)
# [02:48] <jcranmer> it seems that js/src wasn't properly indexed
# [02:48] <Waldo> excellent :-(
# [02:48] <jcranmer> I blame our horrible build system
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# [02:49] <Waldo> fair
# [02:50] <jcranmer> that said, there's been a fair amount of new work since the version up on dxr.mozilla.org, but we still don't have something building that
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# [02:51] <Waldo> perhaps sadly, I still use MXR almost always, only try switching when something more up DXR's alley shows up
# [02:51] <jcranmer> okay, we're definitely running our clang commands on js source code
# [02:52] <@ehsan> cpearce: cool, thanks
# [02:52] <jcranmer> I still use MXR most of the time too, although that's as much because the tree I develop on doesn't actually get indexed on DXR
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# [02:57] <@dolske> ted: I had to stare for a few seconds before I got your RT of https://twitter.com/opera/status/291133795762057217
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# [03:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d0071573033 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 831133 - Record only the basename. r=vladan.
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# [03:04] <RyanVM> wheee, internal server errors
# [03:05] <vladan> so if i type in the wrong URL, is the 404 an "external" server error?
# [03:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2cf4c078ae00 - Seth Fowler - Bug 811391 - Part 2: Tests. r=dbaron, a=akeybl
# [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/542a20ea311c - Honza Bambas - Bug 829858 - Null dereference in nsHttpChannel::InitOfflineCacheEntry(). r=bsmith, a=lsblakk
# [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b6ed291b504f - Jason Duell - Bug 830920 - Reduce running time of test_websocket_basic.html. r=smaug, a=lsblakk
# [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1552a9bf3c99 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 828480 - Add null check for mSuggestionsOptInPrompt. r=mfinkle, a=akeybl
# [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/15220b4f357d - Seth Fowler - Bug 811391 - Part 1: Ignore @page declarations involving viewport units. r=dbaron, a=akeybl
# [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5817ef2c4d33 - Honza Bambas - Bug 761040 - Offline cache entries are created for no-store entries. r=jduell, a=lsblakk
# [03:06] <jcranmer> vladan: the server can return output text for a 40
# [03:06] <jcranmer> 4
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# [03:07] <jcranmer> decoder: it's strange how an unoptimized python tool is so much faster than a production perl tool
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# [03:08] <decoder> jcranmer: i dont think that has to do anything with python vs. perl
# [03:09] <decoder> im pretty sure the lcov thing is just badly written
# [03:09] <jcranmer> perhaps
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# [03:09] <decoder> i looked at the code and it didnt look very nice ^^
# [03:09] <decoder> but if it has the wrong design for the task then you can code as nice as you want and itll be slow
# [03:09] <decoder> and i dont know what the guy is doing in lcov
# [03:10] <jcranmer> I've seen some of the code
# [03:10] <jcranmer> ...
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# [03:11] <jcranmer> this is the hard part now
# [03:11] <jcranmer> is trying to figure out how to display branch coverage
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# [03:13] <jcranmer> but I can regenerate data for all of c-c in about a minute
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# [03:16] <jcranmer> wait, what?
# [03:16] <jcranmer> I can't specify the maximum width of a column?
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# [03:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d2f27cdef91 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 828558 - Don't attach to jsconsole window, r=mdas
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# [03:22] <jcranmer> oh, I should be able to, but gecko doesn't do it properly
# [03:22] <jcranmer> poop
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# [03:23] <stuart> khuey: ok i got it
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# [03:25] <khuey> stuart: hmm?
# [03:25] <stuart> http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8468/8387571671_66aa95ebb6_o.jpg
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# [03:25] <khuey> lol whut
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# [03:26] <stuart> ;-)
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# [03:27] <stuart> it came to me while i was reading the news earlier
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# [03:29] <stuart> i spent at least 10 minutes on that too
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# [03:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa5112625653 - Christian Holler - Bug 829598 - Make js/src/jit-test/tests/gc/bug-820186.js a slow test. r=jandem, DONTBUILD
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# [03:42] <jcranmer> heh
# [03:42] <jcranmer> in one of my test suite files
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# [03:43] <jcranmer> js::Interp's main switch loop was executed 287,088,954 times
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# [03:44] <@bz> jcranmer: you turned off the jit, eh? ;)
# [03:44] <jcranmer> bz: no, this was running about half of make xpcshell-tests
# [03:45] <jcranmer> I was looking at that line only because it was the widest-branching switch statement I could think of
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# [03:47] <jcranmer> http://www.tjhsst.edu/~jcranmer/c-ccov/js/src/jsinterp.cpp.gcov.html, line 1834
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# [03:47] <jcranmer> that line was executed 2.4B times
# [03:47] <jcranmer> [of course, that's from a year ago, but still]
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# [03:50] <jcranmer> bz: also, while you're here
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# [03:51] <Waldo> firebot: ping
# [03:51] <firebot> Waldo: pong
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# [03:51] <cabanier> can anyone commit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827053
# [03:52] <cabanier> RyanVM: ping
# [03:52] <RyanVM> cabanier: pong
# [03:52] <cabanier> RyanVM: can you commit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827053 ?
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# [03:53] <RyanVM> is there a link to a recent Try run?
# [03:53] <@bz> jcranmer: hmm?
# [03:53] <@bz> jcranmer: Was I supposed to do it?
# [03:53] <cabanier> RyanVM: let me check
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# [03:54] <jcranmer> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307866 suggests so
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# [03:54] <RyanVM> cabanier: also, your patch is missing the usual checkin metadate (name, commit message, etc) - see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Creating_a_patch_that_can_be_checked_in
# [03:55] <@bz> jcranmer: key being "someone"
# [03:56] <jcranmer> well, I've already hacked around it, so it's a low-priority request from me
# [03:56] <cabanier> RyanVM: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7f0ffc6ede2b
# [03:56] <cabanier> RyanVM: OK. I will update it.
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# [03:56] <jcranmer> (higher priority request being the iframe auto-height bug IMO)
# [03:56] <RyanVM> cabanier: don't worry about it, just please do so in the future (and use checkin-needed so I'll actually find it :))
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# [03:57] <cabanier> RyanVM: where do I set that? I couldn't find it in the window
# [03:57] <RyanVM> keywords
# [03:58] <cabanier> RyanVM: so I just set it in the details
# [03:58] <RyanVM> no, on the bug
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# [03:58] <cabanier> RyanVM: ah! I was looking for a checkbox
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# [04:05] <cabanier> RyanVM: thanks!
# [04:06] <RyanVM> cabanier: not a problem :)
# [04:06] <jcranmer> decoder: I've pushed all of my changes to my ccov stuff so it can now produce an output UI
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# [04:08] <jcranmer> decoder: example output is here: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~jcranmer/test-c-c-cov/
# [04:09] <jcranmer> [all numbers are bogus due to using subsets of data]
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# [04:25] <decoder> jcranmer: thanks, about to head to bed, but ill look tomorrow
# [04:25] <decoder> past 4 am now >.<
# [04:26] <jcranmer> k
# [04:26] <jcranmer> I thought you were PST, looks like I was wrong
# [04:26] <decoder> im in europe
# [04:26] <decoder> germany
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# [05:11] <dougt> cjones: that might have been the most reviewers per line in the code base.
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# [05:12] <cjones> dougt, more reviewers than non-comment lines, in fact
# [05:12] <dougt> yeah, scary.
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# [05:14] <@dolske> bholley: i am now!
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# [05:14] <bholley> dolske: nevermind, bz showed me a good trick :-)
# [05:15] <@dolske> haha. do I want to know?
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# [05:15] * @dolske sees #content.
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# [05:20] <@bz> dolske: it involves nsIEditor
# [05:20] <@bz> dolske: Do you still want to know? ;)
# [05:22] <bholley> bz: I have to eat dinner. I'll get to the interdiff as soon as I can
# [05:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07f778300689 - Irving Reid - Bug 831459: use RawScript in JMChunkInfo::Convert() to prevent UnrootedScript construction in signal handler r=billm
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# [05:25] <njn> Waldo: those %p warnings go away when you remove -pedantic
# [05:25] <Waldo> njn: yes, I'm aware; I don't think it's that much of a burden to just cast
# [05:25] <Waldo> njn: I tend to think -pedantic is just fine, fwiw
# [05:26] <njn> Waldo: can you name something that it warns about that is interesting?
# [05:26] <Waldo> if we're only talking 50-odd warnings across the entire tree for it, it really is not that big a deal
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# [05:26] <njn> 80-odd for GCC
# [05:26] <Waldo> same ballpark
# [05:26] <Waldo> standards-conforming code is a virtue in and of itself, for one
# [05:27] <Waldo> anyway, I really don't have time to argue this now, I'm on vacation Friday and will be on a plane all day tomorrow (hopefully on wifi), so I need to pack :-)
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# [05:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e279a54371b7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Remove the unneeded explicit keyword from SharedLibrary's private constructor, no bug
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# [05:41] <njn> roc: do you know about the ARENA_POISON stuff in nsPresArena.cpp?
# [05:41] <@roc> yes
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# [05:44] <njn> roc: is it a debug-only thing?
# [05:45] <njn> roc: I'm just looking for mmap() calls that we might not be measuring in about:memory
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# [05:45] <@roc> it's in release builds
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# [05:46] <njn> orly
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# [05:47] <njn> roc: but it's only one page, or something like that?
# [05:48] <@roc> yes
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# [05:49] <@roc> shouldn't you at least measure it for verbose mode?
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# [06:01] <philor> "[info at comment 1529]" may not be the most welcoming whiteboard ever
# [06:01] <@dolske> O_O
# [06:02] <philor> android tests crash at shutdown a bit
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# [06:14] <Mook> Yoric: hmm, do you expect your XPCOM promise thing to be threadsafe? (mostly, so that it would be possible to generate promises on background threads and pass it to the main thread)
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# [06:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/712eca11a04e - Benoit Girard - Bug 830809 - Remove 'shutdown start' label with eConsiderQuit. r=ehsan
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# [06:16] <njn> is it just me, or have debug builds gotten slower lately?
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# [06:37] <@bz> Anyone here have an Android device with both Firefox and Chrome?
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# [08:03] <capella> Who'd be familiar with issues with FF scrolling via gestures on mac ? Or is filing a bug best bet? I can't test an unconfirmed question from another channel
# [08:03] <capella> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2065492
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# [08:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e6d6383957f - Randell Jesup - Bug 831427: Gate RemoveListener(stream) to avoid calling if Destroy() pending r=roc
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# [08:59] <mjrosenb> we default to building with clang?
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# [09:01] <JonathanS> mjrosenb, in mac os x. yes
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# [09:05] <mjrosenb> this is on linux.
# [09:06] <mjrosenb> but top-alikes are showing me spending a large amount of time in clang.
# [09:07] <mjrosenb> root@ac:/home/mjrosenb/bin# readlink -f `which cc`
# [09:07] <mjrosenb> /usr/bin/clang
# [09:07] <mjrosenb> oh
# [09:07] <mjrosenb> funtimes.
# [09:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c91ff8c0a60 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 813978 - Part 1/5: use multi-key indexes. r=sicking, ferjm
# [09:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a26bc984b83 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 813978 - Part 2/5: rewrite filtering by only one condition. r=philikon
# [09:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b8dc288d62f - Vicamo Yang - Bug 813978 - Part 4/5: rewrite filtering by multiple phone numbers. r=ferjm
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# [09:09] <mjrosenb> CCCOMBOBREAKER
# [09:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/327e2e29fe89 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 813978 - Part 5/5: test cases for mixed filter targets. r=philikon
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# [09:16] <WeirdAl> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2065608 - can someone spot a problem in this XBL file? I'm a bit rusty, but it keeps saying this.tabs is undefined
# [09:17] <WeirdAl> err, that it's null
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# [09:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02613b832b7c - Vicamo Yang - Bug 828633: re-enable test_strict_7bit_encoding.js. r=jgriffin
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# [09:21] <mjrosenb> WeirdAl: it is all greek to me.
# [09:21] <glob> s/greek/geek/ ? :P
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# [09:23] <mjrosenb> glob: I am quite fluent in geek.
# [09:24] <glob> mjrosenb, :)
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# [09:27] <WeirdAl> uh, now it works...
# [09:31] <mjrosenb> sadly X's compose key doesn't allow me to enter greek.
# [09:32] <WeirdAl> ok, I needed a <children/> element in there
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# [09:44] <NeilAway> bah, bisecting is no fun if changeset 118314 doesn't even start :-(
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# [10:25] <Ms2ger> Good: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050821
# [10:25] <Ms2ger> Bad(Browser become unresponsive when start AutoScroll): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050822
# [10:25] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a recent regression
# [10:26] <mjrosenb> huh, I'm getting bad certificates from two https addresses
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# [11:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08f1385d7f0f - Randell Jesup - Bug 805251 - Clean up DataChannel close logic r=mcmanus
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# [11:36] <edmorley> mjrosenb: green on tbpl
# [11:37] <edmorley> build issue?
# [11:37] <mjrosenb> I don't remember seeing any build errors
# [11:37] * edmorley changes topic to 'Introducing https://etherpad.mozilla.org/commonissues || Fix your tests, please! http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/ || Next merge: 18 February || New? Want to help? See #introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ , http://logbot.glob.com.au'
# [11:40] <edmorley> mjrosenb: so what's broken?
# [11:40] <glandium> edmorley: m-c
# [11:40] <glandium> :)
# [11:40] <mjrosenb> edmorley: https
# [11:40] <edmorley> ok
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# [11:45] <glandium> mjrosenb: linux?
# [11:46] <mjrosenb> glandium: yes
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# [11:47] <mjrosenb> A PKCS #11 module returned CKR_DEVICE_ERROR, indicating that a problem has occurred with the token or slot.
# [11:47] <mjrosenb> (Error code: sec_error_pkcs11_device_error)
# [11:47] <glandium> mjrosenb: you may want to check /proc/$(pidof firefox)/maps see if there are multiple softokn3 or something like that
# [11:47] <mjrosenb> or An error occurred during a connection to bugzilla.mozilla.org.
# [11:47] <mjrosenb> Peer's certificate has an invalid signature.
# [11:47] <mjrosenb> (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature)
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# [11:49] <mjrosenb> 7f331799d000-7f33179f8000 r-xp 00000000 00:13 348120 /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/objs/opt/security/nss/lib/softoken/libsoftokn3.so
# [11:49] <mjrosenb> 7f33179f8000-7f33179fa000 rw-p 0005a000 00:13 348120 /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/objs/opt/security/nss/lib/softoken/libsoftokn3.so
# [11:49] <mjrosenb> indeed
# [11:49] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, do you think the mozilla::clamped patch should be typing mozilla::clamped everywhere rather than doing using namespace mozilla?
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# [11:49] <Ms2ger> dbaron, no, he's preparing a new patch
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# [11:50] <glandium> mjrosenb: that's normal
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> dbaron, I find it hard to get used to you being online in European mornings :)
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# [11:50] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, it's only temporary
# [11:50] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, it does happen when I'm in Europe, after all
# [11:51] <Ms2ger> You're welcome to stay, of course :)
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# [11:51] <mjrosenb> glandium: any other strings I should grep for?
# [11:51] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, not a big fan of this whole sunrise 8am sunset 4:20pm thing. Then again, Spain doesn't have that problem...
# [11:52] <Ms2ger> It's better in summer, fortunately
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# [11:59] <glandium> mjrosenb: did you enable fips?
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# [12:35] <gaston> gps: glandium: hm was mach turned on by default on unices or more python stuff enabled in the build recently ? all my nightlies failed in configure
# [12:35] <gaston> http://buildbot.rhaalovely.net/builders/mozilla-central-amd64/builds/639/steps/configure/logs/stdio
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# [12:38] <glandium> gaston: erf, the virtualenv check ends up importing the world... file a bug
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# [12:38] <Ms2ger> gaston, we landed part of the moz.build transition earlier
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# [12:40] <glandium> gaston: actually, don't, just add a comment to bug 784841
# [12:40] <gaston> oki, will look at all that
# [12:40] <glandium> even better, let me do it
# [12:40] <Ms2ger> cp: missing destination file operand after `obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/.mozconfig'
# [12:41] <Ms2ger> But my build doesn't seem to mind
# [12:41] <gaston> if you have a fix or an idea i can test whatever you throw at me :)
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# [12:42] <gaston> glandium: if you want to compare with a working configure : http://buildbot.rhaalovely.net/builders/mozilla-central-amd64/builds/637/steps/configure/logs/stdio
# [12:43] <gaston> that was 2 days ago, and i cloberred objdir in between
# [12:43] <glandium> gaston: check my comment in bug 784841, it points to what broke
# [12:45] <gaston> ah
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# [12:46] <gaston> well i guess it's just a matter of time before a working multiprocessing module becomes mandatory..
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# [13:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/935b891ba398 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 831291 - GC: jsapi test Debugger fails under rooting analysis r=billm
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# [13:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15db83a182f5 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 831370 - Rename IsAddressableGCThing to GetAddressableGCThing, now that it returns void* r=terrence
# [13:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4959e4692993 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 831216 - GC: jsapi test GCFinalizeCallback fails under rooting analysis r=billm
# [13:28] <edmorley> asan burning yey
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# [13:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/678cac97bf1a - Mats Palmgren - Bug 821479. r=roc
# [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63ba23c13e9b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 821479. r=roc
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# [14:03] <decoder> edmorley: thanks for the help with asan builds
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# [14:03] <decoder> ill see if I can find out what the problems are
# [14:04] <edmorley> decoder: that's ok :-)
# [14:04] <decoder> it's already nice we actually have them
# [14:04] <edmorley> yeah :-)
# [14:04] <edmorley> tbpl support for labelling them properly is in bug 831712
# [14:04] <decoder> yea, saw that thx
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# [14:05] <edmorley> aim to deploy later today, presuming r+
# [14:05] <edmorley> well, file the request for IT to deploy later today
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# [14:06] <edmorley> looking forward to chief self-service deploys (bug 827473)
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# [14:10] <decoder> edmorley: the red ones dont look like asan problems in particular
# [14:10] <decoder> "make: *** obj-firefox/tools/update-packaging: No such file or directory. Stop."
# [14:10] <decoder> not sure what that is
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# [14:10] <KaiRo> packaging is always nice, full of voodoo
# [14:10] <decoder> the orange is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799494
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# [14:11] <glazou> bonjour
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# [14:11] <edmorley> decoder: cool, least shows the new builds work :-)
# [14:12] <decoder> yep
# [14:12] <decoder> edmorley: I can fix the orange one, but terrence was also working on the fix afaik. the red one seems like a buildbot thing
# [14:12] <decoder> i dont know what the "nightly" job does different compared to a normal build
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# [14:13] <edmorley> decoder: I'd leave for releng for the moment, it's probably something obvious :-)
# [14:13] <decoder> okay =)
# [14:13] <edmorley> so not worth the time sink
# [14:14] * decoder goes to fix jsbugmon first
# [14:14] <decoder> it broke with the virtualenv landing
# [14:15] <edmorley> ah
# [14:15] <Standard8> decoder: the update packaging thing… I saw that the other day when I messed up some mozconfigs and missed out --enable-update-packaging
# [14:15] <Standard8> decoder: if you're intentionally not doing update packaging, then you might need to get releng to turn that off
# [14:16] <edmorley> decoder: from what I can tell the nightly failure is us not generating the update mars properly - but we didn't want nightly updates anyway did we?
# [14:17] <decoder> Standard8: yea, we're not doing any updates. thanks, ill let them know when people awake :)
# [14:17] <decoder> yep. no updates
# [14:17] <decoder> releng is aware of that but they probably forgot to turn it off
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# [14:32] <NeilAway> mak: ping
# [14:32] <mak> NeilAway: pong
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# [14:33] <NeilAway> mak: so, tbsaunde wants to change getXXXProperties from atoms to strings
# [14:34] <KaiRo> why am I not surprised SeaMonkey is burning? it's not like some larger build system change landed, right?
# [14:34] <mak> NeilAway: hmm I'm not sure I know anything about that project... link?
# [14:34] <gaston> KaiRo: 784841 i suppose :)
# [14:35] <NeilAway> mak: there's a change in places that I wanted to run past you, let me link to it
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# [14:35] <KaiRo> gaston: also my first guess :)
# [14:35] <NeilAway> eek, typed attachment number (which turns out to be protected bug, oops)
# [14:36] <NeilAway> mak: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=703046&action=diff#a/browser/components/places/content/treeView.js_sec2
# [14:36] <mak> uh, lots of changes
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# [14:37] <Yoric> ttaubert: When would you be available for a (video) chat?
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# [14:38] <ttaubert> Yoric: next week? I'm on PTO at the moment (and yeah, stupid enough to be on IRC ;)
# [14:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5b9cb99e141 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 825511 - use outputTimeout for runcppunittests.py. r=ahal
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# [14:38] <Yoric> ttaubert: Ok. Don't be surprised if you find a weird SessionStore when you return :)
# [14:38] <NeilAway> mak: so, the only thing that looks wrong to me is that he now needs to compare properties != null as "" is a valid string meaning that there are no special properties for that node
# [14:38] <ttaubert> Yoric: oh god, you're that fast? :)
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# [14:39] <NeilAway> ttaubert: no, it only looks fast becuase he works asynchronously
# [14:39] <NeilAway> *because
# [14:39] <ttaubert> heh
# [14:39] <ttaubert> Yoric: but I'd really like to exchange session restore ideas with you. I imagine you have a lot of suggestions
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# [14:40] <Yoric> ttaubert: I'm currently attempting to rework some more of it into asynchronicity. I'd just like to bounce ideas and/or determine how many things I'll break.
# [14:41] <mak> NeilAway: so, basically instead of passing in an array, and we add to it, the idea is that the method returns a long string of properties?
# [14:41] <ttaubert> Yoric: many. but I'm yet looking forward :)
# [14:41] <mak> NeilAway: and these properties clearly can't contain a space in the name since space is used as separator
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# [14:42] <mak> NeilAway: if there are no properties what is expected to return, empty string or undefined?
# [14:42] <NeilAway> mak: empty string
# [14:43] <mak> NeilAway: so, first he should remove aProperties argument...
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# [14:44] <mak> NeilAway: and the final return props + " " + properties looks wrong (is this what you meant?)
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# [14:45] <NeilAway> mak: no, the let properties = this._cellProperties.get(node, null)
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# [14:45] <NeilAway> mak: since the default cached value is now "" instead of []
# [14:46] <mak> NeilAway: or better, looks like we always leave in a prefix whitespace. I suppose the trreeview just ignores those (so even if it gets " " is not a problem)
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# [14:47] <NeilAway> mak: not what I was asking about...
# [14:47] <NeilAway> mak: see lines 1180-1182
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# [14:47] <mak> NeilAway: I see, so the if (!properties).
# [14:48] <NeilAway> mak: since I assume it's possible for a node to have no special properties, yes?
# [14:48] <mak> NeilAway: iirc the idea there is that if it has properties we don't set them again, sort of caching
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# [14:49] <NeilAway> mak: right, but is "" a valid cache entry?
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# [14:50] <NeilAway> mak: i.e. "this is known to be a normal node" rather than "this node is unknown"
# [14:50] <mak> NeilAway: yes, if the entry is in the Map, it has been populated
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# [14:52] <mak> NeilAway: so the check could be if (!this._cellProperties.has(node)) {set} .get()
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# [14:53] <mak> or use a more proper != "" (though I suppose it may be " ")
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# [14:55] <mak> or === undefined
# [14:55] <mak> NeilAway: good catch btw!
# [14:56] <NeilAway> mak: btw that's a Map, right?
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# [14:57] <mak> NeilAway: yes, indeed I wonder what that .get(aNode, null); does, likely nothing (the null I mean)
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# [14:58] <NeilAway> mak: yeah, who wront that broken code? ;-)
# [14:58] <NeilAway> *wrote
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# [14:59] <mak> NeilAway: *cough*
# [15:00] <NeilAway> mak: ah, you only reviewed it
# [15:00] <NeilAway> mak: it was originally a WeakMap which *does* have a default value
# [15:01] <mak> yeah, likely when we change from weak to map
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# [15:02] <edmorley> boo at bug 825511 undoing half the buildtime win from making js make check parallel :-(
# [15:02] <NeilAway> mak: yeah, the change didn't update the calls to .get()
# [15:03] <mak> NeilAway: you are welcome to ask the patch author to also update that, while there. regardless should be harmless
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# [15:11] <@ted> BenWa: my profile is giving me "out of memory" errors when i try to analyze now :-/
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# [15:11] <@ted> apparently on the line in onChromeEvent where it does JSON.parse(array)
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# [15:36] <@ted> ugh
# [15:36] <@ted> soundcloud did something stupid
# [15:36] <@ted> and now i don't get the blocked plugin UI
# [15:36] <@ted> they just give me a message saying i have a plugin blocker installed and i should disable it
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# [15:41] <gfritzsche> ted: hmpf, that looks bad :(
# [15:41] <@ted> i reloaded the page and it showed up
# [15:41] <@ted> must be more complex than that
# [15:41] <@ted> ah, i see
# [15:41] <@ted> must be due to the way their pages work
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# [15:41] <@ted> i loaded a page, i get the blocked popup notification
# [15:42] <gfritzsche> ted: oh, right, and even works fine after activating flash
# [15:42] <gfritzsche> weird
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# [15:42] <@ted> then i clicked on another song, which loaded a new page (although i don't think it did an actual link navigation)
# [15:42] <@ted> and the plugin notification went away
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# [15:42] <@ted> and i can't play the song
# [15:42] <mak> edmorley: was that bug to remove mobile/xul filed?
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# [15:42] <@ted> gfritzsche: not sure if this is our bug or theirs
# [15:42] <mfinkle> mak: yes
# [15:43] <edmorley> mak: yes, bug 831236
# [15:43] <@ted> gfritzsche: try loading https://soundcloud.com/djearworm/dj-earworm-united-state-of-pop-2012 , but don't activate the plugins
# [15:43] <mak> mfinkle, edmorley thank you
# [15:43] <@ted> then scroll down and click on the link for "DJ Earworm - Speed"
# [15:43] <@ted> or whatever's under "Related"
# [15:44] <@ted> the next page will show their flash blocker warning, but our plugin activation UI is gone
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# [15:45] <gfritzsche> ted: right, looks like they don't insert flash into the page anymore until the page is reloaded
# [15:45] <@ted> hah, soundcloud puts a link to their jobs page in the web console
# [15:45] <jdm> yessss, no more mobile/xul
# [15:45] <jdm> this pleases me
# [15:46] <@ted> did that get rm'ed?
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# [15:46] <KaiRo> what, mobiel/xul dead?
# [15:46] <NeilAway> ted: it uses html5 history
# [15:47] <KaiRo> thanks for f+++ing up every alternative mobile platform, then
# [15:47] <@ted> NeilAway: i was thinking it might be pushState
# [15:47] * KaiRo wuill switch away from Firefox on his main phone, then
# [15:47] <@ted> KaiRo: it's been dead for a while
# [15:47] <NeilAway> ted: quite possible
# [15:47] <glob> KaiRo, bug 831236
# [15:47] <Ms2ger> ted, not yet, I want to land DIRS first :)
# [15:48] <KaiRo> and it probably will be a few years until I'll use FF on my main phone, unless FxOS will ever become capable of being my main phone
# [15:48] <KaiRo> sucks
# [15:48] <@ted> KaiRo: i don't see the point in being indignant about it
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# [15:48] <@ted> nobody is working on the mobile/xul UI anymore
# [15:48] * KaiRo hates not using gecko for browsing
# [15:49] <edmorley> KaiRo: have you even tried native android recently?
# [15:49] <edmorley> KaiRo: it even has private browsing and a bunch of other cool stuff now
# [15:49] <edmorley> which I doubt has been backported to xul
# [15:49] <JosiahOne> I have local changes on my source directory. I need to update to the latest branch, however I know that the previous patch does not work on this latest branch. I need to update the patch, but I am not sure how I can do this?
# [15:49] <KaiRo> edmorley: I WILL NOT EVER use an Adnroid phone unless I have to
# [15:49] * @ted suspects kairo doesn't have an android phone
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# [15:49] <JosiahOne> KaiRo: Why not?
# [15:49] <edmorley> oh meego
# [15:49] * edmorley shrugs
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# [15:50] <KaiRo> edmorley: I'm using native Firefox on my tablet, and it's fine, but Android isn't the only free system out there - actually, Abndroid isn't even free, and I want a really free phone
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# [15:50] <edmorley> KaiRo: we should really come up with our own
# [15:50] <NeilAway> ted: so the real bug is that click-to-play doorhanger is hidden on html5 pushState
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# [15:50] <@ted> NeilAway: aha
# [15:50] <KaiRo> edmorley: Harmattan right now, but I'll buy any Mer-based phone for a few hundred euros before even thinking about any Android one
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# [15:51] <JosiahOne> KaiRo: Well it kind of is completely free. If you want to develop your own custom ROM using the source. Obviously Google's isn't free.
# [15:51] <JosiahOne> Google...
# [15:51] <Ms2ger> Oh dear, Qt?
# [15:51] <edmorley> KaiRo: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831236#c7 , I don't think removing android/xul will impact you
# [15:52] <KaiRo> edmorley: my hope was that someone would be able to create a browser that would look and work more similar to the native Android one but do it on XUL so those alternative platforms would still have the chance to run some Firefox variant
# [15:52] <NeilAway> ted: looks like Firefox has some clunky old code - http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/base/content/browser.js#4081
# [15:52] <KaiRo> edmorley: well, right now it doesn't impact me directly as I'm still using an ancient Nightly - but that ones's rapidly getting very insecure
# [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6f827a03d88 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 831100 - use std::string. Extra reviews. r=ehsan,vladan.
# [15:53] <NeilAway> ted: compared with SeaMonkey's slightly more up-to-date code: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/browser/nsBrowserStatusHandler.js#336
# [15:53] <@bz> Does anyone here have both a recent Firefox nightly and Chrome on Android?
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# [15:53] <mak> KaiRo: fwiw, I have some open bugs to refactor APIs, and having to maintain a dead mobile/xul is a pain...
# [15:53] <KaiRo> and that said, I really really strongly dislike all native UI for Gecko, but I'd rather swallow that than webkit ;-)
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# [15:53] <KaiRo> mak: as I said, my hope was that someone would pick it up and refactor it
# [15:54] * KaiRo thinks all UI in this world should be rendered by web engines ;-)
# [15:54] <nrc> bz: yes - a few days old and only debug, does that help
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# [15:54] <jdm> JosiahOne: have you used mq before?
# [15:54] <jdm> that will be your easiest way to rebase your local changes
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# [15:55] <JosiahOne> Is that Mercurial?
# [15:55] <Ms2ger> Mercurial Queues
# [15:55] <jdm> JosiahOne: it's a mercurial extension
# [15:55] <jdm> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_Queues
# [15:55] <KaiRo> I don't care if it's XUL or HTML in the end, but HTML still has a number of gaps in UI design where it hasn't caught up to XUL _yet_
# [15:55] <@ted> NeilAway: aha
# [15:55] <glazou> +1
# [15:55] <@bz> nrc: no, sadly
# [15:56] <@ted> bz: i have firefox nightly and whatever chrome shipped with my nexus 4
# [15:56] <@ted> is that good?
# [15:56] <@bz> nrc: was looking for a perf comparison on something. ;)
# [15:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/90a389d1e6a1 - tbirdbld - Automated checkin: version bump for thunderbird 19.0b1 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [15:56] <nrc> ah, sorry then
# [15:56] <@bz> ted: yes
# [15:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/775ab58e0654 - tbirdbld - Added THUNDERBIRD_19_0b1_RELEASE THUNDERBIRD_19_0b1_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 90a389d1e6a1. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [15:56] <NeilAway> if it's local changes to working directory then mq is actually the hardest way to rebase them ;-)
# [15:56] <@ted> bz: ok, link me
# [15:56] <@bz> ted: http://dromaeo.com/?dom-attr
# [15:56] <JosiahOne> Neil: How would I better do this then.
# [15:56] <@bz> ted: the runs will give you results links like http://dromaeo.com/?id=NNNNN
# [15:57] <jdm> NeilAway: |hg qnew foo && hg qpop && hg pull -u && hg qpus| seems fairly simple to me
# [15:57] <@ted> bz: ok
# [15:57] <@bz> ted: if you can get me those, that would rock.
# [15:57] <NeilAway> JosiahOne: if you've changed a file, and created a diff, and done nothing else at all, then you just need to pull and update
# [15:57] <@bz> ted: thanks!
# [15:57] <@ted> also, typoing that to "dromeo.com" gives unexpected results
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# [15:57] <NeilAway> jdm: doesn't run your merge program, so you fail
# [15:57] <jdm> sure, but I don't like merge programs :)
# [15:57] <Ms2ger> Yeah, merge programs usually fail
# [15:57] <JosiahOne> I have changed many files. It's the advanced.xul that got messed up.
# [15:57] * @ted is generally happy with kdiff3
# [15:57] <NeilAway> jdm: even internalmerge is less faily then .rej files :-P
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# [15:58] <@ted> bz: http://dromaeo.com/?id=188367 is nightly
# [15:58] <jdm> NeilAway: is |hg diff >~/foo && hg revert -a && hg pull -u && hg import ~/foo| better?
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# [15:58] <@ted> (today's nightly)
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# [15:58] <NeilAway> jdm: it is if it merges, which I don't know, because I've never tried
# [15:59] <jdm> I think you have to set up some mercurial settings for a merge program
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# [15:59] <jdm> but whatever, I'm sure JosiahOne is adventurous enough to merge by hand if necessary
# [15:59] <NeilAway> jdm: it's always discovered merge programs for me
# [15:59] <JosiahOne> Well the problem is that I know something won't merge properly. I created a patch for my bug, but now it won't import into the newest Nightly.
# [15:59] <gsvelto> mak: ping
# [15:59] <@ted> bz: http://dromaeo.com/?id=188369 is chrome
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# [15:59] <@bz> ted: hmm. Thanks!
# [16:00] <@ted> np
# [16:00] * @bz looks at numbers
# [16:00] <mak> gsvelto: hi, I have your review in queue, if it's about that, planning to look at it today
# [16:00] <jdm> JosiahOne: I recommend giving my last series of commands a try and fixing up the merge conflicts that arise
# [16:00] <JosiahOne> Alright.
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# [16:00] <gsvelto> mak: Yes, it was about that, thank you :-) I was told that gavin is on vacation so I've left the review to you if it's not a problem.
# [16:01] <@bz> weird....
# [16:01] <mak> gsvelto: I just skimmed quickly through it yesterday and looks like I can do that, will let you know better later when I actually do it
# [16:01] <whimboo> anyone who has problems to build nightly on os x with latest changeset?
# [16:01] <gsvelto> mak: Sure, thanks again
# [16:01] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: ^
# [16:01] * @bz wonders whether we have a profiling setup on android that would let him get somewhere with this....
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# [16:01] <whimboo> i get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2066219
# [16:02] <aki|buildduty> whimboo: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ doesn't seem to
# [16:02] <glandium> bz: the gecko profiler is supposed to work
# [16:02] <JosiahOne> jdm: I got this error: not updating: crosses branches (merge branches or update --check to force update)
# [16:02] <JosiahOne> abort: cannot import over an applied patch
# [16:02] <JosiahOne> "
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# [16:03] <jdm> hmm, fun
# [16:03] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: whatever you think of it, Qt is the one frontend lib that powers and will power the "real Linux" phones - other than HTML
# [16:03] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: already deleted the obj dir but without a change
# [16:03] <jdm> oh, maybe import is not what you want
# [16:03] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, hg qpo -a && hg pull -u
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# [16:04] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: Do that now, or was I suppose to do that before I updated?
# [16:04] <Ms2ger> Do it now
# [16:05] <aki|buildduty> whimboo: we can try clobbering m-c and rebuilding
# [16:05] <JosiahOne> That just popped all my patches.
# [16:05] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: hm, how would that help my local build?
# [16:05] <Ms2ger> Yep, now hg qpu -a
# [16:05] <aki|buildduty> it would verify if it's replicatable on the build machines
# [16:05] <JosiahOne> Do I now re-apply the patches along with the "foo" one.
# [16:05] <Ms2ger> and then hg import ~/foo
# [16:06] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: ah, that's true. might be a solution
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# [16:06] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: when i wanted to build via mach I was forced to do a clobber
# [16:06] <JosiahOne> That won't work. I have depending on another patch. Should I just import both?
# [16:06] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: i will try to go back until it works
# [16:06] <JosiahOne> Nevermind.
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# [16:07] <JosiahOne> No, I still get can not import over an applied patch. That was from the hg import ~/foo command.
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# [16:08] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, oh!
# [16:08] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, qimport, not import
# [16:08] <JosiahOne> :) Oh yeah...
# [16:08] <whimboo> aki|buildduty: i will also try with make -f instead of mach
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# [16:08] <Ms2ger> whimboo, doesn't help
# [16:08] <JosiahOne> Alright. That worked.
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# [16:08] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, great :)
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# [16:09] <JosiahOne> Wait a second.
# [16:09] <JosiahOne> My changes still aren't there.
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# [16:09] <JosiahOne> Was I suppose to do something after importing foo?
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# [16:10] <@bz> glandium: the Gecko profiler is likely to be completely and utterly useless here
# [16:10] <@bz> glandium: but I'll give it a shot....
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# [16:10] <whimboo> Ms2ger: i see. looks like some more failures even http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2066229
# [16:10] <@bz> glandium: just in case it turns up something totally unexpected
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, er, yes, qpush
# [16:10] <glandium> bz: i haven't looked at the history, thus know nothing about what you're after
# [16:10] <yzen> Yoric: ping
# [16:11] <@bz> glandium: At the moment, profiling a .id get
# [16:11] <@bz> glandium: which is mostly inlined
# [16:11] <@bz> glandium: so ...
# [16:11] <Ms2ger> whimboo, sounds like you get to fix warnings, or disable -WError
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# [16:12] <whimboo> Ms2ger: but why has it been started to fail now? it was working all the last months
# [16:12] <JosiahOne> How come that just imported perfectly? I thought I was going to have to fix something...
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# [16:12] <Ms2ger> whimboo, have you upgraded your compiler or mozconfig?
# [16:12] <jdm> JosiahOne: did it qpush perfectly as well?
# [16:12] <JosiahOne> Yep.
# [16:12] <whimboo> Ms2ger: no. all the same
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# [16:13] <Ms2ger> whimboo, sounds like someone introduced a new case and dholbert|afk hasn't yet fixed it, then
# [16:13] <whimboo> hm i will check for the regression then
# [16:13] <Ms2ger> Wait, nsUDPSocketProvider is final
# [16:13] <Ms2ger> And has been since June
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# [16:14] <Ms2ger> whimboo, remove --enable-fail-on-warnings from your mozconfig, then
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# [16:16] <whimboo> Ms2ger: there was 'ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors' so that would explain it.. but still worth in finding what has been caused it
# [16:16] <whimboo> Ms2ger: thanks at least so that I'm able to build
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# [16:17] <Ms2ger> whimboo, what's your compiler version?
# [16:17] <whimboo> Ms2ger: gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2336.11.00)
# [16:17] <Ms2ger> Say what?
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# [16:18] <Ms2ger> You're not supposed to be able to build with gcc 4.2
# [16:18] <Ms2ger> Your mozconfig doesn't point to clang?
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# [16:20] <whimboo> Ms2ger: i was using this as default
# [16:20] <whimboo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Configuring_Build_Options#Firefox.2C_Default_Release_Configuration
# [16:20] <whimboo> if something is wrong there we should update the docs
# [16:20] <whimboo> but wait... if we don't specify clang we should fallback i believe
# [16:21] <@ted> too many build options :-/
# [16:21] <@ted> too many build docs, i mean
# [16:21] <whimboo> yes, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/macosx/mozconfig.common
# [16:21] <glandium> whimboo: that's not relevant to local builds
# [16:21] <whimboo> so clang is internally set... it was even my patch to do that
# [16:21] <Ms2ger> whimboo, ah, good, you are on clang then
# [16:22] <@ted> yeah, i fixed that
# [16:22] <Ms2ger> glandium, sure is if you have . $topsrcdir/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig in your mozconfig
# [16:22] <@ted> or i made someone fix it
# [16:22] <@ted> can't remember
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# [16:22] <whimboo> Ms2ger: the docs say . $topsrcdir/build/macosx/common
# [16:23] <glandium> we should update the docs to say that no mozconfig is the recommended setup
# [16:23] <Ms2ger> whimboo, not the release one you pointed to :)
# [16:23] <whimboo> Ms2ger: well, i meant debug. sorry
# [16:23] <Ms2ger> glandium, we should kill mozconfigs
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# [16:23] <glandium> Ms2ger: they are still useful
# [16:24] <JosiahOne> I find mozconfig annoying.
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> whimboo, anyway, how old is your clang?
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# [16:24] <glandium> JosiahOne: the point is: you don't need one. but if you want to customize things, they are useful
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# [16:24] <whimboo> Ms2ger: Apple clang version 4.1 (tags/Apple/clang-421.11.66) (based on LLVM 3.1svn)
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# [16:25] <whimboo> it's still building so the errors are gone
# [16:25] <JosiahOne> glandium: Yeah. What I really hate are the .hgrc files. For some reason on Linux I have to keep adding to it over and over again. However on OS X I only did it once.
# [16:25] <whimboo> glandium: so when I want to build a debug build I have to create my own config, or not?
# [16:25] <derf> That's like, neolithic in clang-time.
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# [16:26] <Ms2ger> Ooh
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# [16:26] <glandium> whimboo: yes, but you only need one line in it
# [16:26] <glandium> whimboo: are you using xcode 4.1?
# [16:26] <Ms2ger> Probably bug 830315
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# [16:27] <JosiahOne> Why in the world is this build taking so long!
# [16:27] <whimboo> glandium: no. 4.5.1
# [16:27] <Ms2ger> Because it's a lot of code
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# [16:28] <JosiahOne> It usually only takes 10 minutes the first time. <8 after that.
# [16:28] <JosiahOne> I'm almost at 20 minutes.
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# [16:29] <Ms2ger> Because it's a lot of changes you just pulled in, then
# [16:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/143e6064d88c - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 831748 - refactor duplicated code. r=froydnj.
# [16:30] <JosiahOne> But even then, the amount of code is very little (Compared to normal). This new branch must be a lot larger than the previous or something.
# [16:30] <jesup> JosiahOne: what are you building (or building on)? A clean cold clobber build on a XEON/SSD/16GB from last year takes ~15 min for me. Rebuild for minor changes is only ~1:20 though (Linux/GCC, not clang)
# [16:30] <glazou> with ccache or not ?
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# [16:31] <JosiahOne> Mac Mini 2011, 8 GB RAM, 5400 RPM HD, Linux/GCC. Nothing fancy, but it usually is a lot faster.
# [16:31] <jesup> IIRC that's a cold ccache (enabled)
# [16:31] <BenWa> ted: I've noticed that error. It shows up even when ff is at ~1GB total in 64 bit mac. I'm not sure how to debug it. You can try decreasing the size of the circular buffer
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# [16:32] <JosiahOne> Not sure about ccache.
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# [16:33] <JosiahOne> I'm pretty sure ccache is enabld.
# [16:33] <JosiahOne> enabled*
# [16:33] <@ted> BenWa: hm, wonder what exactly is throwing the OOM error
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# [16:34] <BenWa> ted: I'll try with a debugger when I have time
# [16:34] <BenWa> it's likely the web worker
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# [16:35] <BenWa> ted: Did you see taras's email. We're a bit at a crossroad if we're going land these patches in or build the multi-threaded support on the current architecture
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# [16:35] <@ted> BenWa: yeah, i did not get to reply yet
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# [16:35] <@ted> i actually just started getting patches upstream for review this week
# [16:36] <@ted> finally came up from air from being yanked around on other projects
# [16:36] <@bz> BenWa: ping
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# [16:36] <@bz> BenWa: got a sec?
# [16:36] <@bz> BenWa: so I have an Android nightly
# [16:36] <@bz> BenWa: and I'm trying to install the profiler extension
# [16:36] <BenWa> ted: Alright that's great
# [16:36] <gfritzsche> ted: afaict you were right on .pushState() breaking things on soundcloud :)
# [16:36] <BenWa> bz: yes
# [16:36] <@bz> BenWa: AMO says "Not available for Android"
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# [16:37] <@bz> BenWa: the link to the "latest pre-release build" says not compatible with 21
# [16:37] <BenWa> bz: install this instead https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/raw/master/geckoprofiler.xpi
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# [16:37] <BenWa> Ohh umm
# [16:37] <glandium> i really wish build failures would should up faster on try
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# [16:37] <BenWa> bz: That's weird many people are using it in the current nightly. Let me try a fresh install of it
# [16:37] <@ted> gfritzsche: cool, did you see NeilAway's links above?
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# [16:38] <@bz> "Gecko profiler could not be installed because it is not compatible with 21a1"
# [16:38] <@bz> or so
# [16:38] <@bz> (it fades out quickly)
# [16:38] <@bz> ah
# [16:38] <@bz> the link in the wiki is to RDP
# [16:38] <@bz> not to master
# [16:38] <@bz> does that matter?
# [16:39] <BenWa> Ohh, yes
# [16:39] <BenWa> let me fix that
# [16:39] <BenWa> which link? on AMO
# [16:39] <@bz> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler#Running_the_profiler
# [16:39] <@bz> step 2 under there
# [16:39] <BenWa> kk
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# [16:40] <@bz> same thing with master
# [16:40] <gfritzsche> ted: euh, no, don't see it, sorry... gotta run for now
# [16:40] <@ted> gfritzsche: i put it on the bug, thanks for filing
# [16:41] <@bz> It claims maxVersion 18.*
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# [16:42] <JosiahOne> !!! 30 minutes.... And I'm out of coffee too.
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# [16:43] <JosiahOne> Time to get some more.
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# [16:43] <JosiahOne> On the bright side, I'm almost done building.
# [16:44] <davidb> edmorley: thanks (re diligence on the asan builds) - i'm just being paranoid :)
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# [16:44] <jesup> bz: ping
# [16:44] <edmorley> davidb: yw
# [16:44] <edmorley> davidb: I couldn't tell if you meant from a "going to break buildbot" or "result in a successful asan build" pov
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# [16:45] <davidb> edmorley: what does the patch do?
# [16:46] <edmorley> davidb: turns off update snippet creation, which is what was failing (and we didn't want updates anyway)
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# [16:46] <davidb> ok good.. basically my concern was about updates in general… don't want those working at all.
# [16:46] <edmorley> davidb: ie snippets for the automatic update service and creation of partial update mars etc
# [16:46] <davidb> got it
# [16:47] <davidb> ty
# [16:47] <edmorley> davidb: since otherwise if it updates mid automation, will cause confusion, right?
# [16:47] <@bz> jesup: ack
# [16:47] <@bz> BenWa: any ideas?
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# [16:50] <jesup> bug 826807 - jsapi usage in PeerConnectionImpl.cpp (Constraints) - two questions: is HTMLCanvasElement.cpp (::GetContext()) a reasonable template for handling errors, or is there another one? Few things call JS_GetPropertyByID/etc in C++ land. Second, this is an obvious blocker to production use and likely uplift to Aurora, but does it need to be corrected before flipping the pref for...
# [16:50] <jesup> ...PeerConnection to 'on'? (Though if I just need early error returns, it's likely not a big deal)
# [16:51] <@bz> jesup: looking
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# [16:51] <jesup> thanks
# [16:51] * jorendorff stands ready, assumes bz's got it
# [16:52] <aleth> How do I tell FF on Linux where to find (already installed) plugins?
# [16:52] <@bz> jesup: GetContext is an ok template
# [16:53] <jesup> bz: thanks
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# [16:53] <@bz> jesup: I'm not sure what our criteria forthe pref are
# [16:53] <@bz> jesup: this is _probably_ not exploitable if that's what you're asking
# [16:53] <JosiahOne> And this whole time there was never any problem with mine... I think. I need another bug addressed. This is going to be a long day. Thanks for your help guys.
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# [16:54] <@bz> jesup: we really need to get you guys moved to WebIDL
# [16:54] <jesup> bz: that's question #1, and I think for correct usage it doesn't matter; this is all about bad input handling, so I'd say we could pref on with it, but mark it as webrtc-blocking+
# [16:54] <jesup> bz: agreed
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# [16:55] <jesup> bz: is the Identity stuff ready for us to move?
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# [16:55] <jesup> bz: that's why PeerConnection is in JS today... Anant had to integrate with Identity/Persona, and they were JS only
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# [16:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d01d7cb7693b - Mike Habicher - Bug 830995 - move Alloc/DeallocSurfaceDescriptorGralloc() calls out of the GonkNativeWindow mMutex lock, r=kanru
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# [16:56] <@bz> jesup: js stuff is not movable yet
# [16:57] <jesup> bz: so, we stay on this track for now
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# [16:59] <@bz> jesup: but this is C++ code, no?
# [16:59] <@bz> jesup: the code you're changing right now
# [16:59] <@bz> jesup: The constraints stuff
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# [16:59] <@bz> jesup: can _that_ move to WebIDL?
# [16:59] <jesup> Constraints are used in the constructor for PeerConnection
# [17:00] <jesup> I honestly don't know if we can somehow move that without breaking the interface between PeerConnection and Persona/etc
# [17:00] <@bz> But I thought you said PeerConnection is in JS
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# [17:00] <@bz> Where does C++ come in?
# [17:00] <jesup> yes
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# [17:01] <jesup> The C++ is a back-end to the JS
# [17:01] <@bz> ok
# [17:01] <@bz> So there's some C++
# [17:01] <@bz> which exposes an xpidl interface
# [17:01] <@bz> and JS that talks to it via that interface
# [17:01] <jesup> Lots of things in JS just mirror down to the PeerConnection (IPeerConnection.idl)
# [17:01] <@bz> right?
# [17:01] <jesup> Ah, so convert *that* to webidl
# [17:01] <@bz> So can we switch that idl+C++ bit to webidl?
# [17:01] <@bz> yes
# [17:02] <jesup> Yeah, that's probably possible
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# [17:03] <glandium> aleth: MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH
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# [17:05] <aleth> glandium: thanks!
# [17:05] <davidb> edmorley: indeed :)
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# [17:08] <Pike> there's gonna be an IDN breakout session at the mlw workship, do we have someone with special interest in that? http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2012/12/17/special-interactive-sessions-planned-for-the-w3c-multilingualweb-workshop-in-rome-march-2013/
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# [17:13] <jesup> bz: this closer to what you had in mind? If so, I'll put it up for review http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2066328
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# [17:13] <jesup> And I'll put WebIDL for PeerConnectionImpl on the radar
# [17:13] <@bz> jesup: looking
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# [17:15] <@bz> jesup: JS_ValueToString can return null; you should return NS_ERROR_FAILURE if that happens
# [17:16] <@bz> jesup: or NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY
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# [17:16] <jesup> bz: sure, NP
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# [17:17] <@bz> You need to check the return value of JS_GetElement
# [17:17] <@bz> Other than that, this looks good.
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# [17:17] <glazou> I hate those .mkdir.done
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# [17:17] <glazou> even XPIs are now full of them
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# [17:17] <jesup> bz: thanks
# [17:18] <@bz> jesup: no problem
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# [17:19] <@ted> glazou: sorry, make sucks :-/
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# [17:21] <glandium> glazou: that's because our code to create xpis suck. but that's going to change
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# [17:22] <glazou> oh, that's new, an XPI in a universal OS X build cannot be unified because the i386 and the x86_64 xpis differ
# [17:23] <glazou> and of course, they should be strictly the same
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# [17:37] <jesup> smaug (or bz): ping re bug 827843 - it it useful to have N occurances of 'if (this._closed) throw new Error("Peer Connection is closed");', or one checkClosed() function called N time that does the same? I'm unclear on which is better JS form, and which is better for other reasons (size, de-duplication, speed, etc)
# [17:38] <@smaug> not sure
# [17:38] <@smaug> jesup: I was thinking the same
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# [17:38] <@smaug> but wasn't big enough thing to care about :)
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# [17:40] <jesup> I hate seeing the same boilerplate all over the place. Yeah, it's a minor point - I spent a lot of years worrying about embedded perf/memory use, and before that running N Mozilla's on a server for thin clients. (And ironically that's partly coming back with Android/B2G)
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# [17:40] <@smaug> jesup: well, converting all that code to C++ would probably reduce memory usage
# [17:41] <jesup> OT: I wonder how well FF will work on Dell's Ophelia USB-sized PC replacement dongle
# [17:41] <Pike> oh hi, just received the first wave of bs
# [17:41] <jesup> smaug: :-)
# [17:42] <jesup> smaug: get on the back of the Identity/Persona guys to convert their stuff and we'll talk :-)
# [17:42] <JosiahOne> Converting to C++… That smells like trouble for OS X.
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# [17:43] <@smaug> jesup: I don't understand why they need to convert anything. Just provide some simple xpcom interface for the stuff webrtc needs
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# [17:47] <JosiahOne> Has anyone else noticed that the latest branch takes a lot longer to build?
# [17:47] <JosiahOne> At least the first time.
# [17:47] <@ted> we keep adding code :-/
# [17:48] <jesup> smaug: sure, that'd probably be enough. I wasn't involved when Anant and they (and JST IIRC) ended up with the current solution
# [17:48] <JosiahOne> ted: No kidding.
# [17:49] <JosiahOne> But I mean a jump of over 10 minutes.
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# [17:50] <@ted> JosiahOne: from what?
# [17:50] <JosiahOne> About 10 minutes on first build, now it is like 25 minutes.
# [17:50] <@ted> i mean, what are you comparing to
# [17:50] <jesup> JosiahOne: which version was 10 minutes??
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# [17:51] <jesup> Mozilla 1.0 ? ;-)
# [17:51] <JosiahOne> jesup: The previous branch. I believe it was 20.
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# [17:51] <JosiahOne> Maybe 21.
# [17:51] <JosiahOne> What's the latest version?
# [17:51] <jesup> JosiahOne: Perhaps you had a hot ccache that was making them seem fast?
# [17:52] <@ted> can't think of anything obvious
# [17:52] <@ted> we added webrtc before that
# [17:52] <JosiahOne> Well I haven't changed anything.
# [17:52] <@ted> but 10 mins seems huge
# [17:52] <JosiahOne> Yeah it does.
# [17:52] <JosiahOne> Actually. It was over 30 minutes now.
# [17:53] <JosiahOne> Completely forgot about that. At 20 minutes I went to get coffee. Wasn't done till slightly over 30.
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# [17:53] <@ted> what OS are you on?
# [17:53] <jesup> webrtc was added initially last June, preffed on by default in the summer, and the last major piece added on Sept/Oct
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# [17:54] <JosiahOne> Right now I'm on OS X. But when I ran the build I was on Ubuntu.
# [17:54] <jesup> And it didn't add a ton to build times (some, but not tons - it has a lot of plain C code)
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# [17:54] <@ted> that's what i meant
# [17:54] <@ted> what OS are you building on
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# [17:55] <glazou> JosiahOne: happened to me ; eventually added --without-ccache
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# [17:55] <JosiahOne> Right now I'm not building.
# [17:55] <JosiahOne> I'm just curious now. I haven't tried building on OS X since the latest merge.
# [17:55] <glandium> anyone around on windows with a build could paste me the output for lib -list objdir/dist/lib/libnspr4_s.lib ?
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# [17:55] <glandium> err objdir/dist/lib/nspr4_s.lib
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# [17:56] * @bsmedberg just gets that warm fuzzy feeling from resolving "hpux build bustage"
# [17:56] <jesup> 30 min for a cold build on a non-SSD non-super-hot mac sounds about right
# [17:56] <@bz> bsmedberg: heh
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, best 90 minutes of your day? :)
# [17:57] <jesup> bsmedberg: Did you check the HPUX tinderbox machine? ;-)
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# [17:57] <gaston> that's at least a bug # below 100000
# [17:57] <JosiahOne> jesup: Alright. I don't remember it taking that long before.
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# [17:57] <@bsmedberg> I apparently got through about 110 bugs yesterday
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# [17:57] <@bsmedberg> only... 40 workdays to go?
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# [17:57] <@bz> bsmedberg: until?
# [17:57] <@ted> hah
# [17:57] <lizzard> bsmedberg: that is amazing...
# [17:58] <@bsmedberg> until I have triaged all the bugs in "my components"
# [17:58] <@bz> lol
# [17:58] <jesup> JosiahOne: once you have a warm ccache, AND if no one changes configure.in in a way that forces rebuilds to have different options, it can be a lot faster
# [17:58] <@ted> JosiahOne: uh so i don't understand your question
# [17:58] <@bsmedberg> lizzard: amazingly small or amazingly large?
# [17:58] <@ted> you're comparing your build time on what to what
# [17:58] <JosiahOne> I'm comparing the previous branch on Ubuntu, to the latest branch on Ubuntu.
# [17:58] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, you're welcome to do DOM after that ;)
# [17:58] <lizzard> well, large to me. I would love to look over your shoulder and discuss while you triage stuff
# [17:58] <@bsmedberg> no thanks!
# [17:59] <@bsmedberg> that was to ms2ger... ;-)
# [17:59] <lizzard> if you feel like doing another 40 any time in the next few days :D
# [17:59] <@bsmedberg> lizzard: you could always stalk me...
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# [18:00] <JosiahOne> bsmedberg: How did you get through 110 bugs in one day… How long do you work?
# [18:00] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: in a few months, I will be able to mass-close ~300 bugs with the reason "I just rewrote the library that does stuff.
# [18:00] <lizzard> yes I could. a running commentary would be great too though. I will try watching your bugzilla self then
# [18:00] <jcranmer> Please test if it's still a problem."
# [18:00] <@bsmedberg> JosiahOne: most of these bugs are pretty clearly no longer relevant
# [18:00] <@bsmedberg> for right now I'm just sorting on last-changed date and doing the oldest ones first
# [18:01] <jcranmer> our fourth-oldest bug is something like "LDAP doesn't compile on AIX"
# [18:01] <JosiahOne> I see. So you just closed a whole bunch.
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# [18:01] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: oh please let me close it!
# [18:01] <@bsmedberg> JosiahOne: yeah, right now my close rate appears to be about 90%
# [18:01] <jcranmer> sorry, fifth-oldest
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# [18:01] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: bug 1721
# [18:02] <JosiahOne> bsmedberg: Nice. How come whenever I close bugs, people keep opening them up. :)
# [18:02] <JosiahOne> I'm looking at you Ms2ger.
# [18:02] <@bsmedberg> JosiahOne: well either 1) you're making the wrong decisions 2) you're making them without talking to or without the support of the module owner or 3) you just need to be delegated some authority
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> What'd I do? :)
# [18:03] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: You re-opened bug 340519. Then, somebody asked if you meant to do that. You never responded.
# [18:04] <JosiahOne> bsmedberg: That bug was over 2 years old I believe.
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# [18:04] <@ted> 2 years is not very old :)
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# [18:05] <JosiahOne> But it wasn't very relevant. At least I believe so.
# [18:05] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: I have bugs that I look at that are 10 years old
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# [18:05] <@bsmedberg> some elderly bugs are still quite valid
# [18:05] <jcranmer> like "add enum support to xpidl"
# [18:05] <jcranmer> :-P
# [18:05] <@ted> JosiahOne: in this case, i think closing that bug is the right thing
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# [18:06] <JosiahOne> Well, Ms2ger just closed it. Pretty much for the same reason I did, except he added a referenced one.
# [18:06] <JosiahOne> she? I'm assuming he here.
# [18:07] <JosiahOne> And it was 6 years old, so that makes me feel better. :)
# [18:07] <JosiahOne> ted: Why thank you.
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# [18:08] <JosiahOne> I'm going to build on OS X and see what happens.
# [18:09] <JosiahOne> Lunch time.
# [18:09] <@ted> JosiahOne: i think ms2ger is a robot
# [18:09] <@ted> so gender is hard there
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# [18:10] <JosiahOne> ted: Alright, it referenced one. :)
# [18:10] <glazou> bsmedberg: I think a <1000 bug was closed not long ago
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# [18:12] <glazou> or was it 10k
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# [18:13] <froydnj> go bsmedberg go
# [18:13] <glandium> glazou: #915? (kidding)
# [18:13] <glazou> LOL
# [18:14] <glazou> that one is famous
# [18:14] <jcranmer> glazou: can I hope it was #350?
# [18:14] <glazou> 753
# [18:14] <NeilAway> ted++
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# [18:15] <NeilAway> glandium: did you still want that lib output?
# [18:15] <glazou> that was 753, filed in sep-1998, resofixed in jul-2009
# [18:15] <glandium> NeilAway: oh yes, please
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# [18:15] <Ms2ger> Heh, IE complains about BMO's certificate
# [18:16] <NeilAway> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2066433
# [18:16] <glandium> NeilAway: thanks
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# [18:17] <glandium> NeilAway: no header?
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# [18:17] <NeilAway> glandium: what, the copyright line you mean?
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# [18:18] <glandium> NeilAway: or whatever else it outputs
# [18:18] <NeilAway> glandium: Microsoft (R) Library Manager Version 10.00.30319.01
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# [18:19] <glandium> NeilAway: nothing else?
# [18:19] <glandium> NeilAway: are the lines you pasted starting with spaces?
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# [18:25] <JosiahOne> Should bugs be closed for issues that only effect old versions of Firefox?
# [18:25] <lizzard> JosiahOne: I'd also like to know that, and I don't
# [18:25] <jcranmer> I don't know issues can effect old versions, but I do know how the could affect them :-)
# [18:25] <Ms2ger> If they don't apply to trunk, that's what WFM is for
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# [18:25] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, lizzard ^
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# [18:26] <JosiahOne> WFM?
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# [18:26] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: more seriously
# [18:26] <Ms2ger> WORKSFORME
# [18:26] <jcranmer> just because a bug was reported against an old version doesn't mean that it's not still valid in new versions
# [18:26] <lizzard> I think the answer might be "how old of a version"...
# [18:26] <Ms2ger> No, the answer depends on what trunk does
# [18:26] <@ted> if the bug doesn't exist in the current version then it seems acceptable to RESO WFM
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# [18:26] <JosiahOne> A bug was filed for an old version, but the issue isn't still valid. But it was never closed.
# [18:27] <jcranmer> anything that only affects unsupported versions of Firefox is invalid
# [18:27] <@ted> unless it's on ESR, in which case it's a judgement call
# [18:27] <jcranmer> anything which affects supported versions but not Trunk is a harder call
# [18:27] <lizzard> jcranmer and Ms2ger, those both sound like good answers
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# [18:27] <JosiahOne> It only effects Firefox 14.
# [18:27] <Ms2ger> Kill it
# [18:27] <JosiahOne> If it still does, I'm not sure.
# [18:28] <jcranmer> and it basically comes down to "are we able and/or willing to backport changes?"
# [18:28] <JosiahOne> So "invalid" or "fixed"
# [18:28] * jcranmer hands JosiahOne a guide on the difference between "effect" and "affect"
# [18:28] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: WFM
# [18:28] <JosiahOne> Alright.
# [18:28] <lizzard> JosiahONe: affects
# [18:28] <lizzard> LOLLL
# [18:28] <jcranmer> INVALID = "It's not a bug in Mozilla"
# [18:29] <jcranmer> FIXED = "It is fixed by this patch"
# [18:29] <jcranmer> WFM = "It works on current versions"
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# [18:29] <jcranmer> INCOMPLETE = "This bug report is not actionable"
# [18:29] <Ms2ger> FIXED is also sometimes used for "It is fixed by this other other bug", while WFM is reserved for "It is fixed by an unidentified patch"
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# [18:30] <JosiahOne> Did I type effect? I did. I'm ashamed of myself.
# [18:30] <jcranmer> well, it's more generally "I can identify the actual fix of this bug"
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# [18:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43511e31bf92 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 823228 part 1. Make browser-test.js ignore indexed properties on the window when determining whether a test leaked properties onto the global. r=dao
# [18:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/697dc09bdc2a - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 831198. Make _arrowScrollAnim.stop() and _scrollAnim.stop() actually cancel the pending requestAnimationFrame callback. r=dao
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# [18:45] <NeilAway> glandium: no spaces in the pastebin
# [18:45] <mak> gsvelto: hey, you italian?
# [18:46] <glandium> NeilAway: i know there's no spaces in the pastebin :) but is there on the raw output?
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# [18:47] <NeilAway> glandium: only on the copyright lines
# [18:47] <glandium> NeilAway: ok thanks
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# [18:49] <NeilAway> bz: you asked tbsaunde to update the idl documentation, and I just wanted to be sure of the wording, since that may be out of date too
# [18:50] <NeilAway> bz: in particular, ::-moz-tree-cell-text(x) is a pseudoelement, right?
# [18:50] <@bz> mmm
# [18:50] <@bz> It depends on who you're talking to
# [18:50] <@bz> from the point of view of an author, yes
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# [18:51] <@bz> But if you talk to someone who's working on nsCSSRuleProcessor, they'll first grimace and then say no
# [18:51] <@bz> For documentation purposes, let's say yes
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# [18:52] <NeilAway> bz: the old documentation says :moz-tree-cell-x pseudoclass is matched on the ::moz-tree-cell pseudoelement
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# [18:54] <@bz> NeilAway: er...
# [18:55] <@bz> NeilAway: pointer to this documentation?
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# [18:55] <@bz> So there are -moz-tree-cell and -moz-tree-cell-text anon boxes
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# [18:55] <@bz> And quite separately from that there are various -moz-tree-* pseudo-elements
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# [18:56] <@bz> I guess from the point of view of consumers anon boxes are also pseudo-elements
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# [18:57] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: it's a good thing I ran that consoleservice patch through try... it broke two tests!
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# [18:58] <NeilAway> bz: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/layout/xul/base/src/tree/public/nsITreeView.idl#35
# [18:58] <jlebar> bsmedberg: Because someone removes the listeners after they enqueue the runnable?
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# [18:58] <@bsmedberg> I'm guessing so, yes
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# [18:58] <@bsmedberg> haven't loaded them up yet to check
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# [18:58] * jlebar was wondering if that would be a problem, but your approach seemed more correct.
# [18:58] * NeilAway wonders whether this is a patch to make all console messages async
# [18:58] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I think it makes more sense, and I suspect that it doesn't matter except for those tests
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# [18:59] <@bsmedberg> NeilAway: they are async, I believe
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# [18:59] <Optimizer> is there a way of getting all the ids from an html page, or all the classes that are used in the page, or all the tagnames
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# [19:00] <@bsmedberg> no, this patch collects the list of listeners at the time we deliver the message, not the time we receive it
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# [19:00] <Optimizer> or all the elements who have them, like all the elements who have some id assigned, or class
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# [19:00] <@bsmedberg> Optimizer: you can certainly walk the whole DOM tree
# [19:00] <@bz> Optimizer: "a way"?
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# [19:00] <@bsmedberg> perhaps you need this to be efficient, though...
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# [19:00] <Optimizer> without waling
# [19:00] <Optimizer> whilst sitting
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# [19:00] <Optimizer> s/waling/walking
# [19:00] <Mook_as> querySelectorAll is "a way", if you go by attributes...
# [19:01] <@bz> You can get the list of all IDs without walking
# [19:01] <@bz> in C++
# [19:01] <Optimizer> so how to querySelectorAll the elements with id assigned to them
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# [19:01] <gsvelto> mak: Si :-)
# [19:01] <@bz> querySelectorAll will obviously walk
# [19:01] <Optimizer> bz: any idl ?
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# [19:01] <jcranmer> Optimizer: querySelectorAll("[id]")
# [19:01] <Optimizer> atleast I am not walking .
# [19:01] <@bz> Optimizer: no, but you could add some
# [19:01] * froydnj learns to look at build logs before canceling on unexpected orange; tests hung because of a bluetooth keyboard prompt
# [19:01] <@bz> There is nothing that will get you classes without walking
# [19:01] <JosiahOne> 40 minutes for the build!
# [19:02] <Optimizer> jcranmer: so taht will work with [class] too ?
# [19:02] <JosiahOne> This is crazy.
# [19:02] <nthomas> froydnj: please let #releng know about that if you're seeing it on tbpl
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# [19:02] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, yep
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# [19:02] <froydnj> nthomas: file bug (or is there a bug open?) or just IRC ping?
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# [19:02] <nthomas> bug is better
# [19:02] <nthomas> with link to log
# [19:03] <@bz> I strongly suggest measuring
# [19:03] <@bz> Whether querySelectorAll("[id]") is in fact faster than walking
# [19:03] <froydnj> nthomas: ok, thanks
# [19:03] <@bz> It may be
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# [19:03] <@bz> But it may not be
# [19:03] <nthomas> froydnj: we might have something on file already actually
# [19:03] <Optimizer> ah, so I have to write a walking method first :(
# [19:03] <@bz> uh
# [19:03] <Optimizer> or there is one ?
# [19:03] <@bz> var ids = [];
# [19:04] <@bsmedberg> there are several
# [19:04] <Optimizer> oaky let me runa test then
# [19:04] <@bz> function doWalk(node, ids) {
# [19:04] <Optimizer> yeah, now recurse ?
# [19:04] <@bz> var id = node.id;
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# [19:04] <@bz> if (id) { ids.push(id); }
# [19:04] <Optimizer> bz: got the point :|, thanks :)
# [19:04] <@bz> for (var kid = node.firstChild; kid; kid = kid.nextSibling)
# [19:04] <@bz> yeah, indeed
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# [19:05] <froydnj> nthomas: bug 786679?
# [19:05] <@bsmedberg> bz: is that faster than treewalker?
# [19:05] <@bz> bsmedberg: We would need to measure, but I bet yes
# [19:05] <@bsmedberg> interesting
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# [19:05] <@bz> bsmedberg: given that we've been optimizing firstChild/nextSibling but not treewalker... ;)
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# [19:05] <nthomas> froydnj: oh yes
# [19:06] <froydnj> nthomas: logs posted, thanks for the pointer
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# [19:07] <nthomas> thanks for noticing it
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# [19:12] * Ms2ger clears out 20% of a component, waves at bsmedberg
# [19:13] <@dolske> ehsan: "Reporter: sparky@bluefang-logic.com" fuuuuu
# [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/247a5773190b - Ethan Hugg - Bug 825565 CreateOffer/Answer should be callable more than once r=jesup
# [19:13] <Ms2ger> dolske, do they also have an office dog?
# [19:15] <jaws> does anybody know of any webpages that have those flash advertisements that block reading the webpage?
# [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec5df8e5a755 - Mark Finkle - Bug 831123 - Disable CSS error reporting by default to improve pageload performance r=blassey
# [19:16] * Ms2ger clears 100% of a component
# [19:17] <Optimizer> bz: querySelectorAll is the fastest
# [19:17] <@bz> Optimizer: interesting
# [19:17] <Optimizer> even though it ran on the entire document, and other two ran only on body
# [19:17] <@bz> Optimizer: even if you have a small DOM?
# [19:17] <@bz> I guess it might not matter
# [19:17] <@bz> in any case, there you go
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# [19:18] <Optimizer> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2066540
# [19:18] <Optimizer> lets try on facebook
# [19:19] <Optimizer> 10 times difference in querySelectorAll and TreeWalker
# [19:19] <Optimizer> 2 times in recursion
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# [19:21] * jesup thinks ms2ger is playing with smaller components than bsmedberg
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# [19:22] <Ms2ger> jesup, what, his components have more than one bug in it?
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# [19:22] <@ehsan> ted: smaug: others: who knows about SpecialPowers?
# [19:23] <Ms2ger> ted does
# [19:23] <gfritzsche> jaws: you mean those flash ad overlays?
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# [19:23] <@smaug> ted does
# [19:23] <jhammel> jmaher does as well, i believe
# [19:23] <@ehsan> ted: urgent ping
# [19:24] <jaws> gfritzsche: yeah
# [19:24] <jdm> ehsan: hit me
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# [19:24] <@ehsan> jdm: look at this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/specialpowers/content/specialpowersAPI.js#1113
# [19:24] <@ehsan> jdm: the third arg for getFEFW is an outparam
# [19:24] <jdm> orly
# [19:24] <@ehsan> will this work correctly through the specialpowers magic?
# [19:25] <gfritzsche> jaws: bug 752516 has links it seems
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# [19:25] <gfritzsche> oh sorry, wrong bug
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# [19:25] <jdm> ehsan: there's no particular magic that doesn't involve wrap
# [19:26] <jdm> ehsan: I suspect you'll need to wrap the outparam
# [19:26] <@ehsan> jdm: please rephrase in English?
# [19:26] <@bz> Assertion failure: !recorded, at ../../../../mozilla/toolkit/components/telemetry/Telemetry.cpp:2002
# [19:26] <@bz> Is that expected behavior on shutdown? ;)
# [19:26] <@ehsan> bz: ask espadrine
# [19:26] <@ehsan> no
# [19:26] <jdm> ehsan: getFEFW(..., ..., out); var usable = SpecialPowers.wrap(out).value;
# [19:26] <@ehsan> sorry
# [19:26] <@ehsan> espindola:
# [19:26] <@ehsan> jdm: ok lemme try that
# [19:27] <jaws> gfritzsche: yeah, that's the opposite order than i was looking for
# [19:27] <@ted> ehsan: pong
# [19:27] <gfritzsche> jaws: bug 774315, but that URL doesn't repro anymore :/
# [19:27] <@ehsan> ted: see backscroll please?
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# [19:27] <@ted> oh
# [19:27] <@ted> hm
# [19:28] <jaws> gfritzsche: yeah, that's the bug i'm looking at
# [19:28] <@ted> yeah, i don't really know the answer to that
# [19:28] <@ehsan> jdm: doesn't work
# [19:28] <@ted> bholley probably would
# [19:28] <jaws> i've got the patch mostly finished, just wanted to test a couple more pages
# [19:28] <jdm> ehsan: what is the problem you're seeing?
# [19:28] <@ehsan> in the caller, childFocusedWindow is an object
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# [19:28] <@ehsan> like a JS object
# [19:28] <@ehsan> not a window
# [19:28] <@ehsan> or anything native
# [19:28] <gfritzsche> jaws: ah, sorry, don't have anything handy then :)
# [19:29] <@ehsan> note that the caller passes in a js object, as in, {}
# [19:29] <jaws> gfritzsche: no problem, thanks for trying :)
# [19:29] <@ehsan> jdm: ted: ^
# [19:29] <jdm> ehsan: sure. tell me the error you're seeing.
# [19:29] <@ehsan> jdm: there is no error
# [19:29] <@ehsan> hold on
# [19:29] <@ehsan> jdm: ted: can we go to a channel with less noise please?
# [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7e4224b8c8d - Tim Lunn - Bug 829421 - Free ArgumentsData if JSObject allocation fails. r=nbp
# [19:29] <@ehsan> #ehsan?
# [19:29] <jdm> I'm there
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# [19:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f4836f0da57 - Doug Turner - Bug 830027 - Allow all device APIs that uses the content permission prompt from the system principal. r=fabrice/gwagner a=tef+
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# [19:36] <Optimizer> anyone knows a verry large page with lots of dom ?
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# [19:36] <Optimizer> I mean lots!
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# [19:36] <Optimizer> tried facebook with around 100 scroll downs, no luck
# [19:37] <Mook_as> tbpl, after pressing DOM a few times? :p
# [19:37] <Mook_as> err, down. sorry, muscle memory.
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# [19:37] <Optimizer> :D
# [19:38] <Optimizer> lets see
# [19:38] <Ms2ger> cnn.com?
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# [19:38] <Optimizer> nah
# [19:39] <jhammel> i'd throw out timecube but that no longer exists
# [19:39] <Optimizer> so I have to timetravel for that ?
# [19:39] <Optimizer> :P
# [19:39] <khuey> timecube is gone?
# [19:39] <jhammel> OMG! the author was wiser than we knew!
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# [19:40] <jhammel> khuey, Optimizer : oh, nm, its back! it was a DNS expiry squat here page the other day
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# [19:40] <khuey> whew
# [19:40] <khuey> I was worried
# [19:40] <khuey> whatever would we do without timecube
# [19:40] <jhammel> beh, i lied again! there's some redirect
# [19:41] * jhammel gives up
# [19:41] <Optimizer> but you can always escape
# [19:41] <JosiahOne> How much DOM are you looking for?
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# [19:41] <Ms2ger> A whole lotta DOM
# [19:41] <Optimizer> A whole lotta lotta DOM
# [19:41] <Optimizer> pressing down button on tbpl 10 times is also not enough
# [19:42] <JosiahOne> I don't know what tbpl is?
# [19:42] <Ms2ger> tbpl.mozilla.org
# [19:42] <JosiahOne> Ah.
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# [19:42] <JosiahOne> Probably because it is in plain text? (No graphics)
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# [19:43] <JosiahOne> cnet.com?
# [19:43] <JosiahOne> Keep going down?
# [19:43] <Optimizer> it is not infinite scrolling on cnet
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# [19:44] <JosiahOne> Oh. You need to have infinite scrolling? I don't understand? Is there a limit on the amount of articles?
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# [19:46] <Optimizer> how to querySelectAll tagnames ?
# [19:46] <Optimizer> [tagName] does not work
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# [19:46] <JosiahOne> What's the difference between tbpl and cnet?
# [19:47] <mbrubeck> this sounds like a good joke
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# [19:47] <JosiahOne> Besides the obvious.
# [19:47] <espindola> ehsan, yes?
# [19:47] <JosiahOne> Don't say the domain.
# [19:47] <Optimizer> sub domain ?
# [19:47] <JosiahOne> ...
# [19:47] <Optimizer> suffix ?
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# [19:47] <espindola> bz, no, not expected
# [19:47] <@ehsan> espindola: bz wants to talk to you
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# [19:47] <espindola> bz, how do I reproduce it?
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# [19:48] <JosiahOne> Optimizer: I mean, you said tbpl was not enough, but cnet should be better there. Just keep clicking on show more content. It's the same idea as tbpl's green arrow. Or isn't it?
# [19:49] <Optimizer> oh, i did not see that
# [19:49] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, getElementsByTagName("foo")
# [19:50] <JosiahOne> What the green arrow, or the "show more content"
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# [19:50] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: :|
# [19:50] <Optimizer> I meant all the tags in the document
# [19:50] <Ms2ger> Er
# [19:50] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, getElementsByTagName("*")
# [19:50] <Optimizer> so basically the whole dom tree ?
# [19:50] <Optimizer> am I right
# [19:50] <Optimizer> flattened out
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# [19:51] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [19:51] <Optimizer> okay, cool
# [19:51] <Optimizer> Stress Testing done
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# [19:52] <jhammel> Optimizer: so were you L. Ron Hubbard?
# [19:53] <Optimizer> o.O
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# [19:54] <mak> nbp: that patch in inbound broke everything
# [19:54] <Ms2ger> "Here's what the image is supposed to look like: verizon must be down again"
# [19:55] <seth> heh, so i bought the DTrace book because i want to expand my arsenal for debugging firefox, and i was surprised to see that firefox is actually used as an example in the book! how convenient! =)
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# [19:56] <JosiahOne> seth: I would say so.
# [19:57] <Optimizer> jhammel: why ?
# [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbaf061c64fb - Marco Bonardo - Backout e7e4224b8c8d (bug 829421) for bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [19:58] <jhammel> Optimizer: Scientology stress tests
# [19:58] <sfink> seth: hopefully they don't use the old dtrace hooks in firefox that aren't there anymore...
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# [19:59] <seth> sfink: they haven't mentioned anything like that so far. just using standard providers
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# [19:59] <Optimizer> jhammel: :D
# [20:00] <nbp> mak: hum … my bad. I guess this might be a typo :(
# [20:00] <mak> nbp: backed out :)
# [20:00] <nbp> mak: thanks
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# [20:01] <nbp> mak: I didn't really expected to burn the tree with so much :D
# [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/80b5e0113254 - Julien Wajsberg - Bug 831393 - send manifestURL in the desktop-notification event. r=vingtetun. a=lsblakk
# [20:02] <mak> nbp: well, one line change, all build broken :)
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# [20:02] <mak> at least the patch is not called "trivial" like one that landed some days ago
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# [20:03] <mak> mfinkle: and I think you broke a test...
# [20:03] <mak> mfinkle: /test_bug413958.html | monitorConsole | number of messages - got 0, expected 3
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# [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b1be4ac343f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 823989 - Prevent the testpilot extension from screwing with focus to prevent having to close trees, etc.
# [20:04] * mak prepares another backout...
# [20:04] <mfinkle> mak: wtf
# [20:04] <mak> mfinkle: well, more than one test... many!
# [20:04] <mfinkle> we have a test that demands to have css error reporting to be enabled?
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# [20:04] <mfinkle> those have to go
# [20:05] <mfinkle> backing out is fine by me
# [20:05] <mak> doing
# [20:05] <mfinkle> i can hack the tests later
# [20:05] <mfinkle> thanks
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# [20:06] <edmorley> mak: thanks for backing out, am head down on tbpl support for datazilla
# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d29ffd335728 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 808280 - Remove unused imports from mozconfig.py; r=ted
# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7ae1bf4479a - Marco Bonardo - Backout ec5df8e5a755 (bug 831123) for breaking M8 on Android
# [20:07] <mak> edmorley: I just looked at tbpl for error and I couldn't do resist
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# [20:07] <edmorley> :-)
# [20:07] <mak> also, not sure what I just wrote
# [20:07] <mak> I can ensure you I'm not drunk, even if it looks like...
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# [20:09] <@ehsan> edmorley: I think I've unfucked aurora, please let's keep it closed until we get green nightlies
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# [20:09] <edmorley> k
# [20:09] <edmorley> thank you
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# [20:09] <philor> heh, well played with that commit
# [20:10] <@ehsan> philor: that was actually a mistake, pushed from the wrong tree :(
# [20:10] <@ehsan> but who cares?
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# [20:10] <@ehsan> it's not like everyone was jumping to reopen aurora anyways
# [20:10] * philor considers how we can enable testpilot on profiling
# [20:10] <JosiahOne> Why does this not work on the latest branch. In advanced.xul. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2066616
# [20:10] <@ehsan> philor: r=me on that
# [20:11] <philor> yeah, just not sure what ugly hack to use to enable it, since it builds off MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL
# [20:11] <mak> philor: well, you may consider that landing a prize for trying to debug the problem
# [20:11] <JosiahOne> Oh wait. I think I might know.
# [20:11] <bjacob> glandium: ping, i'd like to rebuild a dir under memory/replace with different CXXFLAGS, but CXXFLAGS doesnt seem to take effect?
# [20:11] <JosiahOne> Do spaces matter in .xul files?
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# [20:12] <@ehsan> philor: MOZ_PROFILING would work, wouldn't it?
# [20:12] <glandium> bjacob: what is your patch?
# [20:12] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, shouldn't particularly
# [20:12] <@ehsan> philor: as in, check for MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL=nightly && !MOZ_PROFILING?
# [20:12] <JosiahOne> Alright. I might have a solution then.
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# [20:13] <bjacob> glandium: my file is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2066617 , the patch is added the 3 -O0 -g3 lines
# [20:13] <glandium> bjacob: you probably need to do that after including config.mk, or after including rules.mk
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# [20:13] <jdm> ehsan: got a moment to point at code for bug 708267?
# [20:14] <philor> ehsan: default && !MOZ_PROFILING, how many people would suddenly find they were building it locally? and do I care?
# [20:14] <jdm> there's someone in #introduction asking about it
# [20:14] <bjacob> glandium: ah ok
# [20:14] <@ehsan> jdm: depends on whether that requires me to think
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# [20:14] <@ehsan> :/
# [20:14] <bjacob> glandium: thanks, putting it after rules.mk worked
# [20:14] <jdm> I wouldn't expect so, but you never know
# [20:14] <@ehsan> philor: I'd stick with nightly to be honest, I don't wanna deal with those people and neither do you
# [20:15] <@ehsan> jdm: ok looking
# [20:16] <@ehsan> philor: filed bug 831868
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# [20:16] <@ehsan> jdm: so? what's the question?
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# [20:16] <jdm> ehsan: prats has no idea where to look to make a change
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# [20:17] <@ehsan> ah ok
# [20:17] <@ehsan> jdm: will comment in the bug
# [20:17] <jdm> thanks
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# [20:17] <@ehsan> jdm: done
# [20:18] <timeless> hey, is there a way to set the date for a cvs commit? :)
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# [20:18] <timeless> (does anyone remember cvs?)
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# [20:18] <JosiahOne> timeless: No, I use Walgreens. :)
# [20:18] <jdm> get out, heathen
# [20:18] <jhammel> JosiahOne++
# [20:18] <jdm> we don't like your kind around here
# [20:18] <timeless> JosiahOne: hey, i miss CVS...
# [20:19] <jhammel> wow
# [20:19] <timeless> we have Shoppers here instead
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# [20:19] <JosiahOne> I couldn't help myself.
# [20:19] <timeless> although, i really miss People's
# [20:19] <timeless> do you remember them? (long gone... *sigh*)
# [20:20] <JosiahOne> People's?
# [20:20] <timeless> on that subject, Magruder's is closing :(
# [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48c0d6ebc3d5 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 831783 - Clean up some event constants. r=snorp
# [20:20] <timeless> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_Drug
# [20:20] <JosiahOne> timeless: A city is closing?
# [20:20] <Ms2ger> timeless, need CVS help? Maybe ask the W3C ;)
# [20:21] <timeless> Ms2ger: thanks
# [20:21] <timeless> they're mostly moved to hg
# [20:21] <timeless> although various wg members are rebelling
# [20:21] <timeless> (and not in favor of cvs, just against hg)
# [20:21] <Ms2ger> Yeah, git :/
# [20:21] <timeless> they like stupid web servers with crappy offerings claiming they're "popular"
# [20:22] <timeless> JosiahOne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magruder's
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# [20:22] <JosiahOne> timeless: Ah. It's also a city. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magruder,_Virginia
# [20:23] <timeless> that's not a city, that's an unincorporated town!
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# [20:23] <jhammel> </pedant>
# [20:23] <timeless> i'll see yours and raise you a Guam somewhere in the deep south!
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# [20:23] <jcranmer> Virginia has very few cities, relatively speaking, since cities are independent from their counties
# [20:23] * timeless can't remember how to find guam
# [20:24] <timeless> it's landlocked and unincorporated
# [20:24] <JosiahOne> timeless: So it is. And I guess you were right. They did close. ;)
# [20:25] <JosiahOne> I didn't look it up. I just three-finger-tapped to get the definition of Magruder, and it just showed that location. I need to get serious now.
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# [20:27] <JosiahOne> Seriously, how long is Bugzilla going to say "First Patch" for me. I have created over 8 now.
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# [20:28] <mbrubeck> weird -- maybe you should file a bug about that (in the bugzilla.mozilla.org product)
# [20:28] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: first patch is shown for all patches on the first bug for which you provided a patch
# [20:28] <JosiahOne> Ah. Thanks.
# [20:28] <JosiahOne> That makes sense.
# [20:28] <JosiahOne> …Not really, but it is an explanation.
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# [20:31] <@bz> Who would know something about CompareRepresentationBitrates ?
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# [20:32] <Ms2ger> jesup?
# [20:32] <Ms2ger> Apparently cpearce
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# [20:32] <Ms2ger> And sworkman
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# [20:32] <@bz> jesup, cpearce, sworkman: ping
# [20:33] <sworkman> hey bz
# [20:33] <@bz> So CompareRepresentationBitrates
# [20:33] <sworkman> yup?
# [20:33] <@bz> Has an Equals() and a LessThan()
# [20:33] <@bz> the latter compares a member
# [20:33] <ojan> dholbert: yt? I'm wondering what the state of flexbox is in Gecko. I know it's in the nightly channel. What are your plans for when it will get shipped to stable?
# [20:33] <@bz> the former just tests pointer equality
# [20:33] <@bz> Is that expected?
# [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b6b22881aaa - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 831402: Ability to show custom menu's PopupWindow above anchor. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:33] <sworkman> I think so - let me verify
# [20:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/384f08852a55 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 830179: Tab indicators are wrong for mdpi. [r=mfinkle] [needs-clobber]
# [20:33] <@bz> So you can get situations where Equals(a, b) is false
# [20:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce4d3552704d - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 831402: Use android spinners for tablets. [r=mfinkle]
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# [20:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae0673777ec8 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 825498: Focus issue on tablets with h/w keyboard. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:33] <@bz> but both LessThan(a, b) and LessThan(b, a) are also false
# [20:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/154e9ce25e41 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 831402: Tablets will have a split action-bar. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b7cf7305ae6 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 831402: Dividers in tabs UI should be with action-bar. [r=mfinkle]
# [20:34] <@bz> Which seems ... suboptimal
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# [20:34] <ojan> dholbert: right now, we consider our implementation basically complete modulo a few small bugs...so we're getting ready to remove the prefix. we're gating that on compatibility testing with other browsers, which we obviously haven't done yet.
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# [20:35] <ojan> dholbert: some Google apps are wanting to use it and want to have a sense of what sort of timeline they can expect.
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# [20:35] <sworkman> bz: I'm in a meeting at the min - can I take a deeper look at get back to you?
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# [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce25418d00a8 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 831864 - Refactor some logic to a renderSymbolicatedStacks method. r=froydnj.
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# [20:39] <@bz> sworkman: sure
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# [20:40] <mjrosenb> ok, I just rebuilt firefox, and I'm still having issues with not being able to connect to https sites.
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# [20:42] <nemo> http://cs6257.userapi.com/u5190975/docs/1ad41c079459/1569805_original.gif programming metaphor
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# [20:43] <nemo> goaway MY API
# [20:43] <froydnj> mjrosenb: connection reset?
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# [20:43] <mjrosenb> An error occurred during a connection to www.google.com.
# [20:43] <mjrosenb> A PKCS #11 module returned CKR_DEVICE_ERROR, indicating that a problem has occurred with the token or slot.
# [20:43] <mjrosenb> (Error code: sec_error_pkcs11_device_error)
# [20:43] <jesup> bz: seems a poor naming convention at the minimum
# [20:43] <mjrosenb> froydnj: ^
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# [20:44] <froydnj> mjrosenb: whoa, weird
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# [20:44] <timeless> JosiahOne: Guam fwiw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam,_Missouri
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# [20:45] <timeless> you never know when a Nokia sub contractor will try to use that Guam for information when filling out map/time data ...
# [20:45] <dholbert> ojan, hi -- sorry ,was afk
# [20:45] <JosiahOne> timeless: Nice.
# [20:45] <reuben> firebot, uuid
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# [20:45] <ojan> dholbert: no worries
# [20:46] <dholbert> ojan, likely to be default-enabled in Firefox 21
# [20:46] <timeless> JosiahOne: someday you can ask sp3000/myself to tell you the long story of that map
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# [20:46] <JosiahOne> timeless: The map? What about it?
# [20:47] <mjrosenb> froydnj: yeah, I can only assume that something strange happened with the build.
# [20:47] <timeless> JosiahOne: the map where this contractor was trying to fill in time zones and cities based on a list of things
# [20:47] <timeless> and managed to do a really bad job of it :)
# [20:47] <ojan> dholbert: and that's unprefixed?
# [20:47] <dholbert> ojan, yup
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# [20:47] <timeless> there were two Guams, (in case it isn't obvious, no one cares about Missouri)
# [20:47] <dholbert> ojan, that goes to release in May
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# [20:47] <JosiahOne> timeless: Interesting...
# [20:48] <ojan> dholbert: just curious...what did you have in mind for compatibility testing? we're trying to figure out exactly what we should do in order to unprefix it.
# [20:48] <timeless> an island in the indian ocean had a timezone from australia...
# [20:48] <timeless> the list of problems was very large
# [20:48] <dholbert> ojan, (it's only prefixed (& behind a pref) in one release, Firefox 18. We switched to being only-pref-controlled after that)
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# [20:48] <mjrosenb> it makes searching for stuff via google very hard.
# [20:49] <dholbert> ojan, not sure -- just continually adding tests and listening for bug reports, basically. I don't think there's an official test suite at this point, is there?
# [20:49] <timeless> JosiahOne: file a bug against bugzilla to change "first patch" to "first [patch] contribution" ?
# [20:49] <timeless> you can include a patch for that too :)
# [20:49] <ojan> dholbert:
# [20:49] <JosiahOne> timeless: Why?
# [20:50] <timeless> JosiahOne> Seriously, how long is Bugzilla going to say "First Patch" for me. I have created over 8 now.
# [20:50] <JosiahOne> Yeah, someone said it was because it will keep saying that for that bug.
# [20:50] <timeless> well, if it said `first contribution` instead of `first patch`, it'd be less wrong, and hopefully less confusing, right?
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# [20:50] <JosiahOne> That's true.
# [20:50] <reuben> hah, that's interesting, unincorporated areas. we don't have that in brazil
# [20:50] <ojan> dholbert: right...our tentative plan was to make all the test we've written work cross-browser (i.e. not just use -webkit prefixes everywhere) and see where gecko and webkit disagree.
# [20:51] <lizzard> does it say that until you get a patch accepted?
# [20:51] <timeless> reuben: rainforests?
# [20:51] <timeless> oh, you're losing those :)
# [20:51] <ojan> dholbert: we're looking into contributing some of those tests to the w3c as well...but not sure we're realistically follow through there.
# [20:51] <JosiahOne> lizzard: That would make sense. None of my patches have been reviewed or anything yet. That might be the issue.
# [20:51] <reuben> timeless, "In Brazil and Mexico, all land must belong to a municipality. Even large uninhabited areas, such as forests or grasslands, are by law part of the nearest "city". This is because in Latin America, a "municipality" is the equivalent of what in the United States and Canada is called a "County"."
# [20:51] <ojan> s/we're/we'll
# [20:52] <timeless> reuben: cute
# [20:52] <ojan> dholbert: anyways, thanks
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# [20:52] * timeless tries to decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing
# [20:52] <timeless> offhand i'd assume it's a bad thing
# [20:52] <reuben> timeless, lol, and yea, the only rainforest large enough to be even considered for an unincorporated area would be Amazon forest
# [20:53] <Ms2ger> ojan++
# [20:53] <lizzard> reuben I think that is true in Colombia as well
# [20:53] <dholbert> ojan, that sounds good! I've been intending to do that as well (get tests into w3c-happy format & contribute 'em upstream)
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# [20:54] <ojan> dholbert: we're attempting to contract that out to a different company. if it all works out well, we can do that with other tests as well.
# [20:54] <timeless> Canada is amusing wrt counties fwiw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_counties_of_Ontario
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# [20:54] <timeless> it seems in Canada some provinces have areas which aren't divided into counties :)
# [20:54] <JosiahOne> I can't believe we are still talking about unincorperated areas. Along with other useless topics. This is awesome.
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# [20:54] <jlebar> derf: ping?
# [20:54] <dmose> is running "make configure" really supposed to invalidate enough dependencies to effectively cause a clobber?
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# [20:55] <dmose> "make -f client.mk configure", i should say
# [20:55] <Ms2ger> Oh hey, jwatt in my inbox
# [20:55] <Ms2ger> dmose, running configure is pretty much a clobber, yes
# [20:55] <Ms2ger> dmose, why are you doing that?
# [20:55] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: because configure.in changes on average every 36 hours?
# [20:55] <dmose> webrtc .gyp build glop
# [20:55] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, sounds right
# [20:56] <Ms2ger> dmose, ah, yes
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# [20:56] <dmose> when i change webrtc build stuff, sometimes just do "make -f client.mk build_and_deploy" doesn't trigger the Makefiles to be rebuilt from the .gyp files
# [20:56] <derf> jlebar: Pong.
# [20:56] <dmose> i haven't yet figured out what the pattern as about why it sometimes does
# [20:56] <reuben> firebot, uuid
# [20:56] <dmose> so something's changed
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# [20:56] <jlebar> derf: Hey. I'm trying to get perf to walk an ARM stack.
# [20:56] <dmose> because i'm pretty sure this didn't used to be true
# [20:57] <dmose> and i'm talking about running a clobber in a stable tree
# [20:57] <jlebar> derf: I looked up its ARM stackwalking code, and it's looking for frame pointers in the stack frames.
# [20:57] <dmose> one that i haven't updated in a few days
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# [20:57] <jlebar> derf: But I cannot for the life of me figure out what compiler option to pass to get GCC to write fps into the stack frames.
# [20:57] <jlebar> derf: fno-omit-frame-pointer is apparently not sufficient.
# [20:57] <dmose> Ms2ger: are you aware of this behavior having previously been different?
# [20:57] <jlebar> derf: do you have any idea?
# [20:57] <nemo> reuben: in Canada "crown land" basically started past my back yard growing up
# [20:58] <jlebar> derf: My function preludes look like "push {r4, r5, r6, r7, r11, lr}", which I presume is not sufficient.
# [20:58] <Ms2ger> dmose, I'm not
# [20:58] <dmose> hmph
# [20:58] <Ms2ger> dmose, but then again, I haven't looked at build stuff for long
# [20:58] <dmose> to be fair, i haven't done much gecko hacking in the last few years
# [20:58] <dmose> only started again in november or so
# [20:58] <JosiahOne> Question. Why aren't there float, int, etc in .js. What am I suppose to use for numbers?
# [20:58] * dmose bets ted would know
# [20:58] <Ms2ger> dmose, we may have had less code then :)
# [20:59] <mjrosenb> JosiahOne: numbers.
# [20:59] <dmose> Ms2ger: we still had enough that when clobber happened it was noticable
# [20:59] <JosiahOne> I need a float value.
# [20:59] <timeless> JosiahOne: js will do the right thing on average
# [20:59] <jlebar> timeless++
# [20:59] <mjrosenb> JosiahOne: all numbers are ieee dobules
# [20:59] <reuben> nemo, so you could say you had a view to the queen's backyard
# [20:59] <mjrosenb> *doubles.
# [20:59] <Ms2ger> dmose, but yeah, ted :)
# [20:59] <timeless> if you try to run in a tight integer loop, then a modern interpreter will treat it as an integer
# [20:59] <nemo> reuben: it was rather overgrown
# [20:59] <timeless> if you make the number have a decimal value, you'll be using a float
# [21:00] <dmose> Ms2ger: :-)
# [21:00] <nemo> reuben: also heavy on the grizzlies and mountain lions
# [21:00] <reuben> hahahaha
# [21:00] <jesup> dmose: rm -rf objdir; make -f client.mk :-) Or if you prefer, touch configure.in; make -f client.mk
# [21:00] <@ted> dmose: i thought we fixed all of those
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# [21:00] <JosiahOne> No way. JS has "number".
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> jesup, ./mach build
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, yep, and that's a double
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# [21:00] <@ted> jlebar: FWIW, I don't know anything about frame pointers on ARM, but I have code that can read the unwind tables
# [21:00] <dmose> jesup: i think you're misunderstanding
# [21:00] <@ted> (stolen from libunwind)
# [21:00] <JosiahOne> So do I just use "number foo = 1"
# [21:00] * timeless uses "float" loosely
# [21:01] <dmose> ted: so for me, it happens every single time i do "make -f client.mk configure"
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, 'var foo = 1'
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# [21:01] <jesup> dmose: came in in the middle
# [21:01] <dmose> no matter what i've touched
# [21:01] <nemo> JosiahOne: so long as your numbers aren't over... 2^52 you should be fine
# [21:01] <dmose> heh
# [21:01] <@ted> dmose: yeah, we build them unconditionally from configure
# [21:01] <nemo> JosiahOne: also, there's always int arrays...
# [21:01] <jlebar> ted: I haveunwinding working in Gecko itself, but I'm trying to get perf (in the kernel) to work. Primarily because _Unwind_Backtrace(), which we use in SPS, does not work from signal handlers on ARM.
# [21:01] <dmose> ted: right, but why does the entire rest of the tree get rebuilt when all i've done is touch a .gyp file?
# [21:01] <jlebar> ted: I wonder if your libunwind code does.
# [21:01] <JosiahOne> This is so weird.
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# [21:01] <dmose> there's no way (e.g.) URIloader and everything else is effected
# [21:02] <dmose> or XPCOM or ...
# [21:02] <@ted> jlebar: i dunno
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# [21:02] <@ted> but in the near future sewardj is rewriting SPS to use breakpad for unwinding
# [21:02] <jesup> dmose: it shouldn't be
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# [21:02] <@ted> so we should theoretically be able to use this arm unwind stuff
# [21:02] <dmose> jesup: that's what i think too. but whenever i do "make -f client.mk configure", boom
# [21:02] <dmose> everything gets rebuilt
# [21:02] <jesup> Do people do that?
# [21:03] <dmose> i have to do it sometimes, to cause .gyp changes to be picked up
# [21:03] <dmose> so maybe that's the real bug
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# [21:03] <@ted> yeah
# [21:03] <jesup> I didn't even notice it had a configure option
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> Well, that *is* a bug
# [21:03] <timeless> dmose: iirc a long time ago configure was smart enough to recognize that if the configure output hadn't changed from the previous time
# [21:03] <@ted> re-running configure is known to make you rbuild
# [21:03] <@ted> rebuild
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# [21:03] <timeless> not to result in something which triggered a world-rebuild
# [21:03] <dmose> what timeless said
# [21:03] <timeless> but i suspect that property was lost n-make rewrites ago
# [21:03] <dmose> why did that change?
# [21:03] <@ted> "depends"
# [21:03] <timeless> and i can't tell you how big n is
# [21:03] <@ted> my mozmake code is definitely not that smart
# [21:03] <@ted> because it's hard
# [21:04] <edmorley> jfkthame: trychooser for android reftest fixed now btw (bug 830868)
# [21:04] * froydnj wonders why he's getting mac gcc errors on a linux build
# [21:04] <dmose> i don't care if everything under .gyp generation gets rebuilt
# [21:04] <Ms2ger> It's messes with make dependencies, too
# [21:04] <dmose> that's still reasonably fast
# [21:04] <jesup> When I want to force rebuilds (because of teh bug where .gypi files aren't in the depend list), I touch configure and live with whatever happends
# [21:04] <dmose> i just don't want to see all of layout and content and xpcom rebuilt
# [21:04] <Ms2ger> In the sense that you'll need to reconfigure every time
# [21:04] <jesup> You could try touching the relevent .gyp files (which are in dependencies)
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# [21:04] <dmose> well, this happens when i edit one of them
# [21:05] <timeless> dmose: why not rm -rf objdir/path-to-codeyouworkon ; make ?
# [21:05] <jfkthame> edmorley: cool, thanks
# [21:05] <dmose> so in theory it's already "touched"
# [21:05] <jesup> And touching them doesn't force a configure
# [21:05] <dmose> timeless: that's an interesting idea
# [21:05] * timeless being lazy since...
# [21:05] <dmose> jesup: right
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# [21:05] <jesup> Just don't do "make -f client.mk configure"
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# [21:05] <dmose> except for the part that that's the only i've found to get the .gyp changes to be seen
# [21:06] <jesup> timeless's solution would work if that actually caused .gyp files to be regenerated
# [21:06] <jesup> into Makefiles
# [21:06] <JosiahOne> … I love Java script.
# [21:06] <timeless> wouldn't it work period?
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# [21:06] <timeless> surely the .gyp generated makefiles are in a directory i'm asking him to kill?
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# [21:06] <timeless> or did we lose the property where as we recurse down, we ensure the makefile exists and is current?
# [21:07] * timeless hasn't built in a while
# [21:07] <jesup> actually, let me check
# [21:07] <derf> jlebar: ARM doesn't have frame pointers in general.
# [21:07] <jlebar> derf: understood.
# [21:07] <derf> I don't know that there is _any_ gcc option that will generate them.
# [21:07] <froydnj> there's not
# [21:07] <jlebar> derf: The kernel really think so, as I read it. http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.7.3/arch/arm/kernel/perf_event.c#L528
# [21:07] <derf> Not even -mapcs-frame.
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# [21:08] <timeless> dmose: while we're trading tips
# [21:08] <timeless> is there a way to get cvs commit to force a specific date?
# [21:08] <dmose> oh man
# [21:08] <timeless> or should i just recommend someone rewrite the ,v files the way we did w/ our tools? :)
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# [21:08] <jlebar> timeless: set your computer's clock? :)
# [21:08] <dmose> not only have i paged and swapped all that knowledge out of my brain
# [21:08] <dmose> i migrated to hard disk via HSM
# [21:09] <timeless> jlebar: yeah, i keep trying to remember if there's a sane way to do that ala fakeroot or chroot
# [21:09] <jesup> timeless: gyp->Makefile conversion is done in configure, and in generated .mk files that provide the dependencies that regenerate them if the gyp file changes - and you blew them away
# [21:09] <jesup> so no, it doesn't work
# [21:09] <@ted> jlebar: it thinks the fp is r11
# [21:09] <@ted> FWIW
# [21:09] <timeless> jesup: ouch
# [21:09] <jlebar> oh, interesting.
# [21:09] <@ted> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h#L115
# [21:09] <jesup> The Makefile.in->Makefile logic doesn't know about gyp files
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# [21:10] <timeless> that sounds like a bug :)
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# [21:10] <timeless> because my approach has historically worked pretty much everywhere
# [21:10] <timeless> including iirc with the disasters of nspr and nss
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# [21:10] <jlebar> ted: that's interesting because we're pushing the fp but not the sp, which again messes up the stack-walking code, as I read it.
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# [21:11] <timeless> and ldap
# [21:11] <timeless> for that matter
# [21:11] <timeless> (places which i know dmose remembers)
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# [21:11] <jlebar> We do |push {r4, r5, r6, r7, r11, lr}|, and the kernel is looking for lr, sp, fp, as I read it.
# [21:11] <@ted> timeless: gyp is a special snowflake
# [21:11] <dmose> ROFL
# [21:12] <jlebar> derf: Okay, I revise my question. How do I get it to push the sp? :)
# [21:12] <timeless> ted: we only have one or two tiny piles of snowflakes here, you can keep your special snowflake
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# [21:12] <mjrosenb> jlebar: pushing the sp is not well defined.
# [21:12] <dmose> ted: it's an obtuse declarative format, setup to generate files in a slightly lower-level obtuse declarative format
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# [21:12] <jesup> mozmake.py creates $OBJDIR/.../common.mk which has dependencies and such to regenerate Makefiles from .gyp files (and ironically regenerate itself)
# [21:12] <jlebar> mjrosenb: It's callee saved?
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# [21:13] <@ted> it's just a bad fit with our build system currently
# [21:13] <mjrosenb> jlebar: no, if sp is in the register list, then the value that is stored is not defined.
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# [21:13] <jlebar> mjrosenb: Okay, so I must be misunderstanding this kernel code which appears to be looking for the sp in the stack frame.
# [21:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ee6b0c9bab9 - Wes Kocher - Bug 831474 - Update revision of Jetpack tests used in Firefox. r=kwierso
# [21:14] <jlebar> mjrosenb: http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.7.3/arch/arm/kernel/perf_event.c#L528
# [21:14] <mjrosenb> jlebar: if you attempt to execute |push sp| it is actually an undefined instruction.
# [21:14] <jlebar> mjrosenb: gotcha
# [21:14] <timeless> mjrosenb: nice
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# [21:15] <mjrosenb> well, the behavior is undefined
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# [21:15] <mjrosenb> on tegras, and exynos, it does the right thing
# [21:15] <mjrosenb> on snapdragons, it gives an illegal instruction trap.
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# [21:16] <jlebar> mjrosenb: So do you see any way we can make this kernel code work? It's looking for a gap of one word between fp and lr, but the code gcc is generating is pushing r11, lr right next to each other.
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# [21:17] <mjrosenb> jlebar: you can mov sp, ir; push {...,ir, lr}
# [21:17] <jlebar> mjrosenb: sure, but I need to make gcc do that for me... :)
# [21:17] <jlebar> mjrosenb: I don't actually care what the sp is, I think.
# [21:17] <jlebar> Yeah; it's not read.
# [21:18] <mjrosenb> jlebar: ok, if the value is never read, then I think you can just push sp
# [21:18] <jlebar> mjrosenb: sure...but I need to make the compiler do this.
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# [21:19] <mjrosenb> jlebar: yeah... that is a different problem.
# [21:19] <mjrosenb> jlebar: aren't kernel entry wrappers usually written in assembly?
# [21:19] <jlebar> Maybe -mapcs-frame?
# [21:20] <jlebar> Hm...mapcs-frame may be the magic word.
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# [21:20] <jlebar> 8bec: e92dd8f0 push {r4, r5, r6, r7, fp, ip, lr, pc}
# [21:20] <jlebar> Oh, and it does mv ip, sp right above.
# [21:21] <jlebar> mjrosenb: That...may have worked.
# [21:21] <mjrosenb> jlebar: sounds like it
# [21:21] <jlebar> mjrosenb: Cool. Let's see if mtpcs-frame works with mthumb.
# [21:22] <derf> jlebar: I don't think it does work with Thumb2.
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# [21:23] <jlebar> derf: stmdb sp!, {r4, r5, r6, r7, r8, lr}
# [21:23] <jlebar> :(
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# [21:23] <jlebar> Okay, so now we see if Firefox builds with -marm.
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# [21:24] <jlebar> derf: unless maybe r7 is my fp. But perf does not seem to understand this.
# [21:25] <firebot> Check-in:
# [21:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b164e03f3be - L. David Baron - Bug 831354, test fix 1: Make continuous-inline-1{cd} tests no longer assume that the height of an inline in the default font is less than 20px. r=bzbarsky
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# [21:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55d244d28023 - L. David Baron - Bug 831354, test fix 4: Make auto-hyphenation-2 not depend on different languages leading to the same font. r=jfkthame
# [21:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47166178f558 - L. David Baron - Bug 702121, patch 3: Make the auto-hyphenation-{8,9,10} reftests not depend on picking the same fonts for different language or encoding values, to fix Android reftest
# [21:25] <firebot> failures from landing of bug 831354. r=jfkthame
# [21:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74b69a84a1f2 - L. David Baron - Bug 831354, test fix 2: Make font inflation tests for selects less sensitive to font metrics by using matching font sizes on the block containing the select. r=jwir3
# [21:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/847763715f14 - L. David Baron - Bug 831354, test fix 3: Make flexbox-intrinsic-sizing-horiz-2a.xhtml not assume that the distance from the baseline of the default font to the top of its normal line
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# [21:25] <firebot> height is less than or equal to 16px. r=dholbert
# [21:26] <mjrosenb> jlebar: I bet that will make all function calls slower
# [21:26] <jesup> bz: I had to ask for a quick re-review; testing showed non-existent constraints now errored out when it shouldn't
# [21:26] <mjrosenb> jlebar: I wonder if there is a way of doing that just for the kernel calls
# [21:26] <jlebar> mjrosenb: I acutally care about all calls, not just frames which call into the kernel.
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# [21:27] <jlebar> mjrosenb: Since I want to walk userspace stacks.
# [21:27] <mjrosenb> jlebar: oic.
# [21:27] <mjrosenb> jlebar: carry on then.
# [21:27] <we11ington> Hey jaws, for bug #719318, I took a look at your comments and implemented them, but there was one thing I wanted to mention
# [21:28] <jlebar> mjrosenb: derf: Thanks a lot for your help.
# [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e4b51b78ab - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 831900 - Ensure that SpecialPowers.getFocusedElementForWindow actually returns something; r=ted
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# [21:28] <derf> jlebar: I mean, even if you build FF with some magic flag that gets you what you want... what happens when you want to take a sample in some third-party library?
# [21:29] <we11ington> jaws: You mentioned concern that for portrait monitors, using 90% of the width, and 75% of that width to be the height, we'd have 67.5% of available height--but it's not quite like that, since the monitor is taller than it is wide (I'm assuming not many square monitors exist)
# [21:29] <jlebar> derf: It bails and I don't get a stack. Which is way better than what happens now, where I get no stacks at all.
# [21:29] <mjrosenb> jlebar: yeah.... now that I think aboutit
# [21:29] <mjrosenb> jlebar: you should try buildinga js shell with that
# [21:29] <mjrosenb> jlebar: I suspec the jits wil be very upset
# [21:30] <jlebar> mjrosenb: with -marm?
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# [21:30] <we11ington> jaws: For a 3x4 monitor in portrait (so, a not-widescreen turned sideways), you'd have .9 * 3 = 2.7 for width, and .75 * 2.7 = 2.025 for height, which is *slightly* more than half
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# [21:30] <mjrosenb> jlebar: no, with -mapcs-frame
# [21:30] <jlebar> mm
# [21:30] * NeilAway wonders whether JosiahOne found the stray semicolon in his paste
# [21:30] <derf> jlebar: I mean, I suspect what you're actually going to have to do is parse the function prolog programmatically.
# [21:30] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: I did. It solved my problem. :)
# [21:30] <froydnj> and that way lies pain and suffering
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# [21:30] <we11ington> jaws: For a 10x16 monitor in portrait (widescreen turned sideways), you'd have .9 * 10 = 9 for width, and .75 * 9 = 6.75 for height, which is about 42%
# [21:31] <mjrosenb> jlebar: any time we touch the calling convention, the jis will need to be poked.
# [21:31] <jlebar> derf: the goal here was to avoid modifying the kernel for the b2g phone...
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# [21:31] <jlebar> mjrosenb: Fantastic.
# [21:31] <derf> I'm not talking about modifying anything.
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# [21:31] <we11ington> So, unless you're dealing with a square monitor (not sure I've ever seen one), then your window height is around 40-50% of the available height
# [21:31] <mjrosenb> I wish there was some automated way to get the calling convention
# [21:32] <derf> mjrosenb: Read the instructions at the start of the function!
# [21:32] <jlebar> derf: I think I misunderstood; you were saying JS needs to parse the function prolog?
# [21:32] <derf> jlebar: I mean whatever you're using to unwind the callstack.
# [21:32] <jlebar> derf: that's going on in the kernel.
# [21:33] <derf> Oh, perhaps I misunderstood what you're trying to do.
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# [21:33] <jlebar> derf: perf unwinds inside the kernel, it turns out.
# [21:33] <derf> I mean, is the kernel even built with CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER?
# [21:33] <jlebar> derf: the stacks from inside the kernel look quite nice, so I guess so?
# [21:34] <derf> You should find out what options it's passing then.
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# [21:35] <derf> cat /proc/config.gz
# [21:36] <derf> jlebar: Anyway, I'd search /usr/src/linux/Makefile for CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER.
# [21:36] <derf> There are some interesting comments there.
# [21:36] <jlebar> derf: CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER is not in my config.gz. But anyway, I don't much care about unwinding kernel stacks.
# [21:36] <NeilAway> nemo: rofl
# [21:37] <derf> jlebar: I know, but clearly they've passed some options that affect the calling convention.
# [21:37] <derf> I wonder if -pg causes this.
# [21:37] <@ehsan> doublec: I stole the review for bug 831640
# [21:37] <@ehsan> doublec: it would be great if you could land it on inbound now so that I can rebase on top of it
# [21:37] <@ehsan> doublec: I'm wrapping up the decodeAudioData patch...
# [21:38] <jlebar> derf: Sorry, I'm confused why it matters. The calling convention that perf's userspace unwinding expects seems not to be affected by any config options. http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.7.3/arch/arm/kernel/perf_event.c#L528
# [21:38] <jaws> we11ington: i just saw your message now. i'm reading
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# [21:39] <jaws> we11ington: ah interesting, thanks for the correction!
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# [21:40] <we11ington> jaws: Yep. I've got a new patch ready, do I need to use a diff from the original version (before I did any changes) or a diff from the last version I did?
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# [21:41] <jaws> we11ington: diff from the origianl version is best
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# [21:42] <NeilAway> jlebar: aren't you used to use stmfd and ldmfd so that you don't have to remember which way they pair up?
# [21:42] <we11ington> jaws: That was my guess, so cool! I'll upload the new patch. Basically the only new things it does is go to 75% x 75% for normal monitors, and puts the GTK height reduction line back into the else block
# [21:43] <jlebar> NeilAway: tbh, I'm not too good with the arm ISA, and I can only guess what those instructions do.
# [21:43] <NeilAway> ehsan: lol @ 831900
# [21:43] <@ehsan> NeilAway: lol indeed!
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# [21:44] <NeilAway> jlebar: stmfd is the same as stmdb and ldmfd is the same as ldmia
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# [21:45] <jlebar> oh, this is one of those fun arm user-friendly things.
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# [21:45] <philor> ehsan: to add to your joyous day, a perwindowpb failure on aurora
# [21:46] <NeilAway> jlebar: mind you, last time I did any actual ARM programming was over half my age ago!
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# [21:47] <we11ington> Okay jaws: new feedback request is there :)
# [21:47] <philor> cjones: Windows bustage on inbound
# [21:47] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: And how long would that be? :)
# [21:47] <cjones> philikon, thanks, pushing a fix
# [21:47] <philikon> philor: ^
# [21:47] <jaws> cool, thanks we11ington
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# [21:48] <NeilAway> JosiahOne: too long :-(
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# [21:48] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: Lol.
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# [21:49] <JosiahOne> Could someone explain what "let" does in .js. What
# [21:49] <JosiahOne> '
# [21:49] <cjones> apologies
# [21:49] <JosiahOne> s the difference between let and =
# [21:50] <cjones> dammit, wrong fix
# [21:50] <philor> ehsan: even better, apparently it's either nightly-only, or non-nightly-only :)
# [21:50] <cjones> backing out
# [21:50] <@ehsan> yay!
# [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9f4929d5738 - Chris Jones - Bustage fix for bug 786631: Need a win no-op too. r=me
# [21:50] <Mossop> JosiahOne: "let" declares a variable
# [21:51] <Mossop> JosiahOne: Specifically one scoped to the current block only, as opposed to "var" which declares either a function or global variable.
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# [21:51] <JosiahOne> Mossop: I can't believe this. Javascript is awesome. (And I though Obj-C was cool)
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# [21:53] <@bsmedberg> bz: do you know why you added a try/finally block here: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/d29ffd335728/content/base/test/chrome/test_bug429785.xul#l40 ?
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# [21:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e2f112e2de6 - Chris Jones - Back out bug 786631
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# [21:57] <JosiahOne> Who! Everything just disappeared. What happened?
# [21:57] <JosiahOne> Oh wait, never mind, it's back.
# [21:58] <sfink> It's called "blinking". You close your eyes and, eventually, open them again. Netscape invented it.
# [21:58] <nemo> ++
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# [21:59] <JosiahOne> sfink: Lol. No, there is some weird bug on my IRC client. It seems to make things disappear and glitch up when I try changing my theme.
# [21:59] <JosiahOne> Seems fine now.
# [21:59] <JosiahOne> Okay, it isn't fine.
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# [22:14] <jesup> bz: thanks. One last time. (Yes, it's tested) Need to file a few bugs for other uses probably... (gonk Automounter, a few others)
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# [22:15] <jesup> bz: thanks! (beat me too it) Copied that usage from somewhere else; I'll fix and land
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# [22:19] <seth> i went to lunch while compiling, thinking it'd be done when i got back, but the machine went to sleep, so i'm right where i left off =(
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# [22:19] <firebot> Check-in:
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# [22:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64d9b755c25e - Daniel Holbert - Bug 831354, test fix 5: Make flexbox-align-self-vert-rtl-1.xhtml wrap some text in a 100px-wide inline block, so that our different centering algorithms will be able to
# [22:20] <firebot> center it consistently. r=dbaron
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# [22:27] <abr> Is there a published guideline somewhere about when to use MOZ_ASSERT versus PR_ASSERT versus NS_ASSERTION?
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# [22:28] <@bz> abr: MOZ_ASSERT for fatal asserts
# [22:28] <@bz> abr: NS_ASSERTION for nonfatal ones, I guess
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# [22:28] <@bz> abr: PR_ASSERT is effectively deprecated.
# [22:28] <@bz> abr: except in NSPR/NSS code.
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# [22:29] <abr> bz: thanks.
# [22:29] <jesup> and MOZ_ASSERT/NS_ASSERTION followed by if() if you want to protect opt builds
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# [22:34] <edmorley|away> bz: we should probably rename them to something more intuitive, given how many times a week people ask :-)
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# [22:36] <doublec> ehsan: still want me to land it?
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# [22:36] <@ehsan> doublec: yes please
# [22:37] <doublec> ehsan: no problem, will do it now
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# [22:37] <@ehsan> thanks
# [22:37] <jesup> edmorley|away: Where would the fun in that be?
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# [22:38] <jesup> edmorley|away: We could re-open the "Are Assertions Fatal?" discussion...
# [22:38] <edmorley|away> lol
# [22:38] <jesup> but then again I need to eat dinner in a few hours
# [22:38] <@bz> We should also discuss the dangers of second-hand assertions.
# [22:39] <@bz> Maybe ban or require them in restaurants and other public places?
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# [22:39] <JosiahOne> Is it possible to run a try-server locally. I know it sounds weird, but I do not have the rights to create one. However, I need to build for multiple platforms for testing. Tryserver is the easiest way here. So can I run the try server locally, giving me the files necessary to test with.
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# [22:39] <JosiahOne> Or do I have to cross-compile
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# [22:40] <@bz> edmorley|away: *wriggle*
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# [22:41] <doublec> ehsan: done
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# [22:44] <jlebar> mjrosenb: Anything in particular I should do in the js shell to test that hte JITs are working properly?
# [22:44] <@ehsan> doublec: thank you!
# [22:44] <doublec> np
# [22:45] <mbrubeck> edmorley|away or philor: Can you point me to the work that was done to build Android-only changes on Android only?
# [22:45] <mbrubeck> I think we'll want something similar for /browser/metro (Windows only)
# [22:46] <mbrubeck> Over on elm I am currently chewing up dozens of testpool machines, touching files that aren't even built or packaged on non-Windows platforms
# [22:46] <JosiahOne> Nobody has any ideas?
# [22:47] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: sure, trying to find the bug (but the ongoing awesome bar bug I have is fighting back)
# [22:47] <froydnj> JosiahOne: you can just run the tests locally, you don't need all the infrastructure behind try
# [22:47] <JosiahOne> How would I do that?
# [22:48] <JosiahOne> Right now I just use ./mach build Obviously, that own't help.
# [22:48] <JosiahOne> won't*
# [22:48] <mbrubeck> JosiahOne: If you want to automatically kick off builds and tests, we use buildbot to do that: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot
# [22:48] <froydnj> JosiahOne: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Running_automated_tests
# [22:48] <froydnj> I'm sure there's a clever way to do it with mach too
# [22:48] <mbrubeck> The folks in #ateam can point to more resources about our buildbot setup.
# [22:49] <JosiahOne> Alright. I'll be right back, it's restroom time. :)
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# [22:49] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: bug 787449
# [22:49] <mbrubeck> You can run things like "mach reftest" to launch the reftests
# [22:49] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: #releng for buildbot
# [22:49] <mbrubeck> But you want something like buildbot if you want to automatically run tests on lots of platforms or machines at once
# [22:49] <mbrubeck> edmorley|away: thanks and thanks :)
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# [22:50] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: hunk you want is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=670447&action=diff#a/misc.py_sec3
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# [22:51] <mbrubeck> ah, at least since we are in /browser we will not cause any b2g or android builds
# [22:51] <edmorley|away> mbrubeck: repo link is https://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/fb4205014434/misc.py#l126
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# [22:53] <JosiahOne> I just need something to build on three platforms. OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows. Actually, just being able to build for Windows from OS X is fine.
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# [22:54] <froydnj> JosiahOne: I don't think such a thing exists, save building in a Windows VM
# [22:54] <edmorley|away> JosiahOne: what bug # and patch and I'll push to try for you
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# [22:55] <mjrosenb> jlebar: run jit tests.
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# [22:55] <JosiahOne> edmorely|away: It's fine. Stephen is doing that for me. I just wanted to know in case I take on a patch where no one has the rights to do that.
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# [22:58] <JosiahOne> I build on Ubuntu and OS X myself, and I have a windows machine. But setting up the environment for Windows is a HUGE pain. So I just don't do it.
# [22:59] <mbrubeck> Well, running your own buildbot/tryserver will require setting up a windows build environment as a prerequisite
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# [23:00] <mbrubeck> (if it's going to run builds and tests on Windows)
# [23:00] <JosiahOne> mbrubeck: Rats. I just want to compile Firefox for Windows on Mac. I am surprised this can't be done.
# [23:01] <JosiahOne> There is no way to create a Windows Installer from OS X?
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# [23:02] <froydnj> the installer is the least of your troubles
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# [23:02] <JosiahOne> Well, compile and create the installer.
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# [23:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73202f04f7dc - Marco Chen - Bug 830611 - [Audio] Add dom_audioagent.xpt into package-manifest.in. r=roc
# [23:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d879e26464a - Seth Fowler - Bug 824817 - Eliminate warnings in IPC code. r=cjones
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# [23:05] <bdahl> Can anyone recommend someone who knows about PGO builds? There seems to be a regression on windows causing inverted images drawn to canvas for PGO builds.
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# [23:08] <mjrosenb> jlebar: actually, it looks like that isn't changing the calling convention, just the internal stack frames, so IM shouldn't be affected?
# [23:09] <jlebar> mjrosenb: yeah, that's what I was thinking. But I should test.
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# [23:13] <glandium> i have an interesting problem... i can't connect to lwn.net with my main profile, but i can with a fresh one.
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# [23:20] <jesup> glandium: proxy?
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# [23:21] <glandium> jesup: no proxy, but i'm suspecting fx's dns cache
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# [23:21] <jesup> yes, that's possible - and maybe even correct
# [23:21] <jesup> If they changed IP's but had a longish timeout
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# [23:22] <jesup> wait a day or three
# [23:22] <jesup> (not really joking)
# [23:22] <jesup> Wireshark will tell you
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# [23:26] <glandium> jesup: wireshark tells me something crazy
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# [23:26] <jesup> Corrupted DNS? DNSsec isn't deployed yet... Does it match nslookup/dig?
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# [23:27] <glandium> jesup: i'm contacting the right ip, sending a syn, getting a syn/ack, and sending a ack... then nothing for 5 seconds, not even a push, and i get a duped syn/ack to which i answer with fin/ack
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# [23:28] <jesup> MITM attack? Or something identified you as an attacker? (DoS protection)
# [23:28] <jesup> Likely not MITM
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# [23:29] <jesup> And how does it know which profile you're on? Does the other profile do anything different/
# [23:29] <jesup> ?
# [23:29] <glandium> jesup: on the same machine with another instance of firefox, it works
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# [23:29] <jesup> Right - does wireshark show the same address?
# [23:29] <glandium> let's restart this one and see
# [23:29] <gkw> smaug: ping
# [23:30] <jesup> Actually: perhaps a load-balancer at their end ...
# [23:30] <glandium> jesup: lwn.net has only one address
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# [23:30] <jesup> and a dead server
# [23:30] <@smaug> gkw: pong
# [23:30] <gkw> smaug: the patch for bug 831472
# [23:31] <@smaug> gkw: yes?
# [23:31] <gkw> smaug: doesn't apply cleanly on mozilla-beta - i've backported it and will provide an interdiff, but do i need to re-request review?
# [23:31] <@smaug> I can review immediately
# [23:31] <gkw> smaug: ok
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# [23:32] <glandium> still happening after a restart... pretty amazing
# [23:32] <glandium> let's try again with some NSPR_LOG
# [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c8758d96c354 - Dustin L. Howett - Bug 812647 - Fix OS.File's failure to find libc on case-sensitive OS X filesystems. r=Yoric, a=akeybl
# [23:33] <@ehsan> doublec: which patch are you working on?
# [23:33] <@smaug> gkw: ah, mDocShell->GetPresShell(getter_AddRefs(presShell)); is the change
# [23:33] <@smaug> in 20/1
# [23:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/afbe1011ae1c - Benoit Girard - Bug 820852 - Implement write poisoning on Windows. r=ehsan,espindola
# [23:35] <gkw> smaug: so is bug 486200 the likely regressor?
# [23:35] <gkw> or is it something else?
# [23:36] <@smaug> gkw: well, it was implemented in that one, so yes
# [23:36] <jesup> glandium: Is there anything in the syn/ack that's different between the profiles?
# [23:36] * jesup still thinks it's a loadbalancer, IF it can tell the difference between your two profiles
# [23:37] <jesup> maybe sequence numbers
# [23:37] <gkw> smaug: i don't suppose https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ba035df3292b was a factor?
# [23:37] <@smaug> no
# [23:37] <@smaug> gkw: that is the reason you had to create a separate patch
# [23:37] <@smaug> but it didn't cause the problem
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# [23:38] <gkw> smaug: ah, just as i expected :)
# [23:38] <@smaug> I mean separate patch for FF19 etc
# [23:38] <gkw> smaug: yep
# [23:38] <gkw> smaug: great, thanks!
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# [23:40] <doublec> ehsan: bug 812881
# [23:40] <nmatsakis> when running mochitests, is there any way to run the browser in gdb?
# [23:40] <khuey> nmatsakis: EXTRA_TEST_ARGS=--debugger=gdb
# [23:40] <khuey> in the env
# [23:40] <doublec> ehsan: comment 28 describes what it's doing
# [23:40] <nmatsakis> khuey: thanks!
# [23:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d6a8a229453 - EKR - Strip a= from trickle ICE candidates
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# [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9511909a46ee - David Keeler - bug 827304 - rename browser_clickToPlayPluginScriptAccessPopup.js because it's long r=jaws
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# [23:42] <@ehsan> doublec: thanks
# [23:42] <philor> yay, the Linux b-c hang from the 19 merge is fixed, so now the leaked-until-shutdown that looked Mac-only on the 20 merge is Linux+Mac!
# [23:43] <tbsaunde> philor: isn't it great how many tests we have to let fail
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# [23:45] <nmatsakis> khuey: any idea why I might see proxy errors running mochitest in that way?
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# [23:46] <khuey> nmatsakis: http proxy errors? no
# [23:47] <glandium> man NSPR_LOG_MODULES=nsHttp:5 is scary
# [23:47] * glazou just found an absolutely major regression in the editor, something that should probably be a blocker for thunderbird
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# [23:48] <khuey> is thunderbird still a thing?
# [23:48] <nmatsakis> khuey: never mind, it seems to be working now. For some reason the first time I tried I got a message like "Firefox is configured to use a proxy but it is refusing connections."
# [23:48] <glandium> there are nsHttpConnectionMgr::TimeoutTickCB lines with hosts none of the loaded tabs should have contacted (but are in non loaded tabs... favicons?)
# [23:48] <nmatsakis> thanks again
# [23:48] <khuey> nmatsakis: np
# [23:48] <glazou> khuey: there are still big orgs relying on it yes and many, many users
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# [23:50] <glazou> khuey: and it will be a blocker to most inline wysiwyg editors, wikipedia's for instance
# [23:50] <glazou> that's enough of a thing for you ?-)
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# [23:54] <cpeterson> is there an ETA for reopening mozilla-aurora? :\
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# [23:54] <mak> cpeterson: ehsan going to post to dev.platform. currently waiting for win7 build
# [23:55] <@ehsan> cpeterson: there is not, not until somebody works on fixing it up
# [23:55] <cpeterson> ok
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# [23:55] <glandium> jesup: so, it turns out i had an entry for safebrowsing.clients.google.com in /etc/hosts pointing to 127.0.0.1... and that lead to this behaviour
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# [23:57] <jesup> glandium: Hmmmm
# [23:57] <jesup> not a common user problem I'd imagine
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# [23:57] <glandium> jesup: otoh, it also means that if for some reason google servers don't answer...
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# [23:58] <glandium> i wonder if i should file a bug
# [23:58] <jesup> Not sure what that would mean in practice. File a bug.
# [23:59] <jesup> I fyou have a cpature that shows something useful, attach it
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# [23:59] <jesup> Since the other profile on the same machine (same /etc/hosts) was ok...
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# [23:59] <jesup> Maybe there's a bad state if it couldn't fetch for "too long"
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