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1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 23 00:00:01 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <dholbert> JosiahOne, sure! I heartily recommend reading a CSS tutorial, too -- that will help a lot
4. # [00:00] <dholbert> good luck
5. # [00:00] <bbondy> this is a great program to search for any file on your comp btw: http://www.voidtools.com/
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7. # [00:00] <bbondy> joe: maybe try right clicking and run as admin?
8. # [00:00] <joe> sure
9. # [00:00] <joe> i'm rebooting first :)
10. # [00:00] <bbondy> k
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16. # [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/84de5f4f1773 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 830214 - Avoid crashing when printing selection of a PDF with many pages in pdf.js. r=roc a=bbajaj
17. # [00:02] <joe> bbondy: gah, still doesn't work
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20. # [00:03] <bbondy> maybe reinstall the win8 sdk? not sure but maybe ask on #windev
21. # [00:03] <bbondy> in case someone else has any ideas
22. # [00:03] <bbondy> you can try jimm
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24. # [00:03] <bbondy> that's all I did
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26. # [00:03] <noahclone> glandium: ping
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28. # [00:03] <glandium> noahclone: pong
29. # [00:03] <joe> ok
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32. # [00:04] <bbondy> joe: if you want to you could manually modify your batch files
33. # [00:04] <jimm> joe: vcvars.bat is gone in the 8.0 sdk
34. # [00:05] <noahclone> glandium: hey there, I got some reports from people saying they couldn't run firefox 17 and up on RHEL 6.1. I was trying to track down which bug caused this. I'm thinking the cause is b/c Fx's GLib requirement has changed?
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36. # [00:05] <joe> jimm: gah
37. # [00:05] <glandium> noahclone: 17.0.2esr should run on rhel6.1
38. # [00:05] <joe> maybe i should uninstall the win7 sdk
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40. # [00:05] <glandium> noahclone: 18 requires glibc 2.11
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43. # [00:06] <jimm> joe: what are you trying to do?
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45. # [00:06] <noahclone> glandium: they get "Couldn't load XRE functions" error messages. But I'm no linux guru though this thread breaks down the problem much, much better than I can. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/943647
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47. # [00:06] <jimm> note vcvars32 is distributed with each visual studio install
48. # [00:06] <stransky> noahclone, feel free to file a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com
49. # [00:06] <jimm> it's in the VC/bin folder
50. # [00:06] <stransky> noahclone, or give me to cc on mozilla bugs
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54. # [00:07] <noahclone> stransky: sure, just wanted to verify this wasn't an intentional change on Mozilla's side.
55. # [00:07] <glandium> noahclone: the initial question is someone who built his own firefox...
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57. # [00:08] <jimm> joe: if you're trying to get our start up scripts to recognize the 8.0 sdk, you'll have to grab the latest bat files out of the mozillabuild repo.
58. # [00:08] <mcsmurf> "Its Problem with ZoneAlarm Extreme Security then disable Virtualization and reinstall Firefox. " heh
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63. # [00:09] <joe> jimm: oh
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65. # [00:09] <joe> that'll help me :)
66. # [00:09] <bbondy> joe: maybe the one on the laptop I have i not the latest
67. # [00:09] <bbondy> maybe it jut picked up 8.0 because I didn't have any other sdks on this comp
68. # [00:09] <bbondy> that'd make sense
69. # [00:09] <jimm> joe: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/
70. # [00:10] <jimm> don't think a new exe has been generated since my checkin for vc10
71. # [00:10] <glandium> noahclone: fwiw, RHEL5 users should use the firefox packages provided by redhat, from now on. We can't keep supporting RHEL5, which is ancient.
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73. # [00:11] <glandium> noahclone: as for RHEL6, 17 and 18 should work on it
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75. # [00:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5fae1032ef3b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 832995 - Update pdf.js to version 0.7.82. r=bdahl
76. # [00:11] <jimm> joe: start-msvc11 should work fine with the 8.0 sdk if you have vs11 installed
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78. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18316d354cad - Owen Coutts - Bug 808054 - Don't anchor the Downloads Panel to the tabs toolbar. r=mconley
79. # [00:11] <joe> i don't yet
80. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8aa49207d1c - Steven Lee - Bug 818843 - configure.in changes. r=rjesup
81. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8cb694c82d1 - Soumya Deb - Bug 829988 - Un-prefix gradients from per-theme tabview.css. r=dao
82. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cff1c1aa5261 - Oleg Romashin - Bug 824642 - PlanarYCbCrImage::GetAsSurface does not create surface optimized for platform. r=joe, r=nsilva
83. # [00:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1b79578a1bd - Soumya Deb - Bug 829992 - Un-prefix gradients from per-theme preferences/*.css. r=dao
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85. # [00:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47ad7a78f0b7 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 826756 - Update video image size. r=cdouble
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87. # [00:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b803c2821b9 - Steven Lee - Bug 818843 - Media changes. r=rjesup
88. # [00:12] <jimm> joe: so if you're using vc10, get the latest copy post my checkin.
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90. # [00:13] <joe> yup
91. # [00:13] <joe> done
92. # [00:13] <joe> now i just have to reinstall the win8 sdk :)
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94. # [00:13] <bbondy> did you uninstall it?
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97. # [00:13] <bbondy> shouldn't need to reinstall if not
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99. # [00:13] <jimm> shouldn't take too long, they slimmed it down quite a bit.
100. # [00:14] <sfink> ted: ping
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107. # [00:16] <jimm> joe: for reference - https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Windows_8_Integration#Building_Locally
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113. # [00:17] <ojan> dholbert: actually...turns out it was confusing about min-width:auto meaning min-intrinsic
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115. # [00:17] <ojan> that's so confusing. wish we didn't do that. :(
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119. # [00:19] <dholbert> ojan, yeah... that's tripped me up a few times too :-/
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121. # [00:20] <ojan> i tried to fight it on www-style, but i lost
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155. # [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88869b74a28a - Wes Johnston - Bug 830404 - Re-insert accidently removed string. r=mfinkle
156. # [00:31] <gps> njn: thanks for following up on the JS compartment issue
157. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3167daa05ef4 - Wes Johnston - Bug 830760 - Don't zoom into fields on tablets or pages with metaviewports. r=kats
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162. # [00:32] <njn> gps: np. It's an annoying situation
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165. # [00:33] <njn> gps: bug 807205 or bug 759585 would help greatly, but neither is being worked on
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168. # [00:33] <gps> njn: it's even worse when you are an ignorant JS dev like me. I like to think that JSMs should "just work." then things like CPG happen and turn my world view upside down
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172. # [00:34] <glandium> njn: we should use cow strings instead of copying them between compartments
173. # [00:34] <njn> gps: high level languages always have surprising performance traps
174. # [00:35] <njn> glandium: interesting idea, but I bet there are many devilish details in there
175. # [00:35] <gps> glandium: JS strings are immutable. not sure how that plays into cow
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177. # [00:35] <sfink> CPG doesn't change observable behavior, as long as you don't observe performance or memory use :-)
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179. # [00:35] <khuey> sfink++
180. # [00:35] <njn> gps: they're mutable at the language level, but certainly not at the implementation level :)
181. # [00:35] <glandium> note that 807205 is worked around in browser code by preprocessing the files and using #includes
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183. # [00:36] <gps> glandium: I'm aware of that. but it's a bit dangerous because of potential symbol collision
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185. # [00:37] <Mossop> ted: Is there a better flag to use to test whether we're building Firefox or not than MOZ_PHOENIX?
186. # [00:37] <Mossop> Or gps I guess ^^
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188. # [00:37] <gps> there is a MOZ_PHOENIX variable. just when I thought I knew most of what happened in the build system...
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190. # [00:38] <njn> lol
191. # [00:38] <Mossop> gps: We like to keep you busy
192. # [00:38] <gps> Mossop: MOZ_BUILD_APP is the relative directory of the app being built. e.g. 'browser' or 'mobile/xul'
193. # [00:39] <Mossop> Ah that sounds nicer
194. # [00:39] <khuey> for the love of god please don't add new MOZ_PHOENIX uses
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197. # [00:39] <gps> sounds like khuey is looking for a r? :)
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200. # [00:40] <philor> too late, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/apps/src/Webapps.js#266
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203. # [00:40] <gps> cargo cult!
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206. # [00:41] <philor> there we were, down to just the one for the heinous hometab|hometab|hometab, and up sprouts another
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209. # [00:42] <glandium> philor: the worst case is the one in nsGlobalWindow.cpp
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211. # [00:43] <JosiahOne> Shoot. Where did this come from? What does this mean? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2079139
212. # [00:43] <fabrice> philor: by chance we'll get rid of this one soon!
213. # [00:44] <glandium> fabrice: it shouldn't even be MOZ_PHOENIX
214. # [00:44] <fabrice> glandium: what should it be?
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217. # [00:44] <Mossop> MOZ_FIREBIRD!
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219. # [00:45] <philor> MOZ_ITSEEMEDLIKEAGOODIDEAATTHETIME
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221. # [00:46] <JosiahOne> MOZ_FIREFOX!
222. # [00:46] <Callek> MOZ_MEEGO!
223. # [00:46] <glandium> fabrice: depends what the intent is, and reading the "B2G Desktop and others" part, i'm wondering what it is... because "others" is really everything but Firefox, which includes thunderbird, seamonkey, bluegriffon, seabird and others
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226. # [00:46] <JosiahOne> I totally missed what the problem is...
227. # [00:46] <glandium> is it really expected that "others" have Ci.mozIDOMApplicationRegistry2?
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230. # [00:47] <JosiahOne> Oh, I fixed it. I some how removed browser.html. Not sure how I did that?
231. # [00:48] <fabrice> glandium: no, only B2G has it
232. # [00:48] <glandium> JosiahOne: usually, that involves "rm"
233. # [00:48] <fabrice> we should just use MOZ_B2G now
234. # [00:48] <JosiahOne> glandium: I think I would have noticed that. :)
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236. # [00:48] <glandium> fabrice: indeed, and MOZ_PHOENIX would just go away
237. # [00:49] * njn wonders why clang and GCC are accepting his C++ file that lacks a seemingly necessary "mozilla::" namespace qualifier in one place
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239. # [00:50] <noahclone> glandium: I read you on RHEL5 being ancient. hehe Hmm, I was curious though on which bug upped the Glib requirement though. I believe it was checked in between 9/20 & 9/21/12. But my hg search skills are sucking. :/
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241. # [00:50] <dholbert> njn, I don't imagine you have "using namespace mozilla;" somewhere?
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243. # [00:50] <dholbert> njn, (that'd be my first guess)
244. # [00:50] <glandium> njn: a using namespace mozilla in a header?
245. # [00:50] <njn> dholbert: no. the weird thing is I have two very similar functions, and clang insists I have "mozilla::" for one, but not the other
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247. # [00:51] <dholbert> heh
248. # [00:51] <glandium> noahclone: the change of build environment did that
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252. # [00:52] <njn> dholbert: and GCC has the same response, so it's probably not a compiler bug
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254. # [00:52] <njn> dholbert: and this happens in 3 different files
255. # [00:52] <glandium> njn: show the code
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257. # [00:54] <njn> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2079175 is one place. it's the register/unregister calls near the bottom
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260. # [00:54] <njn> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2079176 is the declarations of the functions
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264. # [00:56] <glandium> njn: O_o
265. # [00:56] <njn> glandium: yeah
266. # [00:56] <glandium> nothing strikes me
267. # [00:56] <anton> how does one debug segmentation faults?
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270. # [00:56] <anton> is there a doc somewhere with tips and tricks?
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272. # [00:58] <gps> anton: if you can reproduce the segmentation fault, you typically launch the app inside gdb. it will break when it segfaults
273. # [00:58] <njn> glandium: |::RegisterMemoryReporter(...)| doesn't work
274. # [00:58] <anton> gps: i see, ok, thanks
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280. # [01:00] <glandium> njn: but removing the mozilla:: in ~nsLayoutStylesheetCache errors out?
281. # [01:00] <njn> glandium: yes
282. # [01:00] <njn> glandium: it's all very strange
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289. # [01:05] <njn> glandium: if I replace |new LayoutStyleSheetCacheReporter(this)| with |nullptr| I get the error!?
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292. # [01:05] <njn> glandium: on both clang and GCC
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294. # [01:06] <njn> glandium: somehow the LayoutStyleSheetCacheReporter is making it work without the mozilla::
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297. # [01:07] <glandium> njn: in what namespace is LayoutStyleSheetCacheReporter?
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299. # [01:07] <njn> glandium: global
300. # [01:07] <njn> it inherits from |mozilla::MemoryReporterBase|, if I remove that I get teh error
301. # [01:08] <njn> (I need the "mozilla::" on the inheritance declaration; this is in the same file)
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304. # [01:09] <spartanfire> jdm: i you have a chance I'm trying to work on the bug 705961, could you comment on this please: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2079191
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306. # [01:10] <njn> glandium: if I put LayoutStyleSheetCacheReporter in its own namespace I still don't get the errro
307. # [01:10] <njn> *error
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309. # [01:11] <jdm> spartanfire: what would you like me to comment on, specifically?
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312. # [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71811483976f - Eddy Bruel - Bug 568953 - Fix for build warning; r=Ms2ger
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314. # [01:12] <spartanfire> jdm: i don't know how to get the external resources from the mMap or mExternalResourceMap
315. # [01:12] <njn> glandium: I give up
316. # [01:12] <jdm> spartanfire: you're not trying to get individual external resources.
317. # [01:13] <jdm> spartanfire: at least, I think. let me reread the bug.
318. # [01:14] <glandium> njn: is mReporter a nsCOMPtr?
319. # [01:14] <spartanfire> jdm: ok, if I'm mistaken, could you please explain what I should be doing instead?
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321. # [01:14] <njn> glandium: yes
322. # [01:14] <glandium> njn: that's probably it
323. # [01:15] <njn> glandium: nope. I can remove the "mReporter =" and it still works
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325. # [01:15] <njn> glandium: it's definitely something about the argument to RegisterMemoryReporter
326. # [01:15] <glandium> njn: try making it a nsIMemoryReporter, and i think you won't need the mozilla:: in ~nsLayoutStylesheetCache
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328. # [01:16] <njn> glandium: mReporter is a nsCOMPtr<nsIMemoryReporter>
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330. # [01:16] <glandium> njn: that's not the same as nsIMemoryReporter *
331. # [01:16] <glandium> njn: just try
332. # [01:16] <glandium> as an experiment, not a "solution"
333. # [01:16] <njn> glandium: doesn't work
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336. # [01:17] <froydnj> glandium: why do you think nsCOMPtr makes a difference here?
337. # [01:17] <glandium> froydnj: because namespaces are fun
338. # [01:17] <jdm> spartanfire: my mistake, you are on the right track.
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340. # [01:17] <njn> glandium: it's gotta be something about the inheritance of the argument
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343. # [01:18] <glandium> njn: which is why i thought the nsCOMPtr was masking it for UnregisterMemoryReporter
344. # [01:18] <jdm> spartanfire: my suggestion is to modify ExternalResourceEnumerator to pass aData instead of aData->mDocument
345. # [01:18] <jdm> and change the existing callbacks that expect an nsIDocument
346. # [01:19] <jdm> then you'll have access to the ExternalResource pointer in your callback
347. # [01:19] * njn gives up again
348. # [01:21] <spartanfire> jdm: sweet, that helps thanks!
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350. # [01:21] <glandium> njn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument-dependent_name_lookup
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352. # [01:22] <njn> glandium: lol
353. # [01:22] <njn> that is some deep voodoo
354. # [01:22] <njn> thanks!
355. # [01:22] <jhammel> its C++...what do you expect? ;)
356. # [01:22] * njn has already added the unnecessary "mozilla::" annotations, for symmetry
357. # [01:22] <glandium> njn: namespaces are fun
358. # [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/514941e1887a - Yiming Yang - Bug 830637 - Increase pageload timeout, r=jgriffin
359. # [01:23] <jhammel> for my next trick....templates of pointer to member functions
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362. # [01:24] <glandium> njn: I don't know what to think about the fact that making mReporter an nsIMemoryReporter* doesn't make UnregisterMemoryReporter(mReporter); work
363. # [01:24] * njn shrugs
364. # [01:24] <glandium> jhammel: pointer to member functions are already tricky without templates
365. # [01:25] <jhammel> glandium: true dat
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369. # [01:26] <cpeterson> more templates will make it easier
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372. # [01:27] <glandium> more templates will kill linker max vsize
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374. # [01:29] <njn> all just to use << for the output operator, bah
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376. # [01:31] <glandium> njn: it's not only that. it actually allows to override some stl functions, which can be neat
377. # [01:32] <jhammel> for the C++ definition of "neat" i take it ;)
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380. # [01:32] <glandium> jhammel: overriding the stl is always neat
381. # [01:32] <jhammel> i'm a pythonista these days....i prefer to monkey-patch the sys and os modules ;)
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383. # [01:34] <NeilAway> njn: I think it's argument-dependent lookup
384. # [01:35] <NeilAway> bah, late again :s
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400. # [01:44] <nthomas> sheriffs + sherifflike people: one of the buildbot-masters has been eating Linux/Linux64 compile jobs for inbound (in fact non-try). You can use self-serve to rebuild revisions that are missing coverage
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402. # [01:44] <nthomas> those are labeled 'Fedora' now
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406. # [01:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c53380aff1d6 - Wes Johnston - Bug 832321 - Use Light Android theme in all of Fennec. r=sriram
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408. # [01:45] <philor> the way the tests get eaten, we'll hardly miss the builds
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419. # [01:49] <Waldo> Callek: do you know of any eccentric platforms, tinderboxen, etc. that have stopped working in the last ~week due to my landing bug 719659 that implicitly assumes a gcc >= 4.2 compiler, if the compiler is gcc?
420. # [01:50] <Callek> ummmm
421. # [01:50] <Callek> win95 is busted
422. # [01:50] <Callek> as is Darwin9
423. # [01:50] <jhammel> win...95?!?
424. # [01:50] <Waldo> er
425. # [01:50] <Waldo> what?
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427. # [01:50] * njn suspects Callek is joking
428. # [01:50] <Waldo> this had better be trolling :-)
429. # [01:51] <Callek> well it is broken with our trunk builds
430. # [01:51] <Callek> I'm not lying
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432. # [01:51] <Callek> but I don't think it broke BECAUSE of your landing
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434. # [01:51] <dholbert> Waldo, it broke compiles on the computer history museum's babbage engine
435. # [01:52] <Callek> dholbert++
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449. # [02:01] <glandium> Waldo: at this point, we should probably actively reject gcc < 4.4 on all platforms
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451. # [02:01] <Waldo> I wouldn't complain :-)
452. # [02:01] <Waldo> wouldn't work for it, particularly, tho
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454. # [02:02] <glandium> i can sleep-file-a-bug
455. # [02:02] <Waldo> :-)
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457. # [02:02] <Waldo> basically I get mad when I hit things that newer compilers support, that I really want and can't work around somehow with compiler testing; I haven't hit such things for gcc 4.2/4.3 yet
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464. # [02:08] <JosiahOne> jdm: Ping?
465. # [02:08] <jdm> JosiahOne: pong
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467. # [02:08] <JosiahOne> It's the end of Tuesday, and still no update on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832397
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470. # [02:09] <Waldo> glandium: re bug 832623, do we not have some sort of m4 macro for doing gcc version comparisons, I guess?
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472. # [02:09] <glandium> Waldo: no
473. # [02:10] <Waldo> that seems unfortunate
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475. # [02:10] <Waldo> although, mfbt doesn't have that right now, so I suppose I shouldn't "unfortunate" too hard about it :-)
476. # [02:10] <JosiahOne> jdm: You said to ping either yourself or khuey if there is no update.
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478. # [02:10] <Waldo> (patch in my queue for it that I need to review, or something)
479. # [02:10] <jdm> JosiahOne: thanks for the reminder. I'll email Shannon.
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481. # [02:11] <JosiahOne> jdm: Thanks.
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503. # [02:22] <JosiahOne> Does anyone here know of any CSS animation that are done in Browser.js? I'm guessing not, but it's worth a shot.
504. # [02:22] <@ehsan> roc: can you please attach a full patch including the missing file when you get a chance?
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507. # [02:23] <@ehsan> roc: oh, and that was fast ;)
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515. # [02:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0118758d92c2 - Gina Yeh - Bug 827230 - [Bluetooth] [Hfp] Support feature 'Query Operator Selection' (AT+COPS?), r=echou, a=nonlibxul
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518. # [02:27] <@ehsan> GinaYeh: no need for a=nonlibxul any more
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521. # [02:27] <GinaYeh> ehsan, got it thanks :)
522. # [02:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb76fc267c33 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 833631 - Unprefix mozAudioContext; r=roc
523. # [02:28] <JosiahOne> How long is bug 800443 going to go unaddressed?
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527. # [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dacbe91984e - Nick Alexander - Bug 833508 - Make GlobalSyncStage construction process two phased. r=rnewman
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530. # [02:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/391856672bb5 - Wes Johnston - backout 3167daa05ef4
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533. # [02:31] <jcranmer> I thought we agreed that gcc 4.4 is our min vresion
534. # [02:31] <jcranmer> Waldo: ^
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536. # [02:31] <Waldo> jcranmer: honestly I don't even know these days, maybe we did
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538. # [02:32] <Waldo> and just don't have the early-error
539. # [02:32] <jcranmer> pretty sure we did
540. # [02:32] <Waldo> or my memory's faulty
541. # [02:32] <Waldo> probably that
542. # [02:32] <jcranmer> we discussed it on m.d.platform
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544. # [02:32] <jcranmer> the consensus was min-4.4
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546. # [02:32] <Waldo> yeah, and I have time to read that frequently :-\
547. # [02:32] <jcranmer> this was... 9 months ago
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549. # [02:33] <jcranmer> the problem is we're not all in C++11 mode yet
550. # [02:33] * jcranmer loks at glandium
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556. # [02:34] <glandium> 6 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 176 deletions(-) ; yay for configure.in cleanup
557. # [02:35] <jcranmer> the configure.in cleanup I really want is rm comm-central/configure.in :-P
558. # [02:35] * JosiahOne Wonders how the bug he mentioned got addressed so fast.
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563. # [02:37] <glandium> jcranmer: gcc 4.4 and clang with libstdc++ 4.7 are not in C++11 mode
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566. # [02:39] <jcranmer> glandium: are you working on getting android to use a new gcc?
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570. # [02:39] <glandium> jcranmer: that's already done
571. # [02:39] <JosiahOne> Hey, where is the code that holds the Panorama class?
572. # [02:39] <glandium> jcranmer: b2g is still on gcc 4.4, though
573. # [02:39] <jcranmer> what's android on?
574. # [02:39] <glandium> jcranmer: 4.6
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577. # [02:40] <kk1fff|home> dougt: would you help to take a look at patch for bug 832925? it is a small patch, but it blocks a tef+ bug. thanks :)
578. # [02:40] <jcranmer> so we're a year out or so from having min-4.5 being a possibility
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582. # [02:41] <glandium> jcranmer: btw, would you happen to have the title of that dev-platform thread?
583. # [02:41] <jcranmer> we started discussing it when espindola switched OS X over to clang
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587. # [02:48] <glandium> is it reasonable that i remove chunks of the build system at 2:30am?
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591. # [02:49] <froydnj> you won't be around when people yell at you to back your sleep-broken patch out :)
592. # [02:49] <glandium> it's probably not reasonable that i review bug 648980 now
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596. # [02:49] <glandium> froydnj: i'm not landing it now. i might be unreasonable, but i'm not crazy :)
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600. # [02:50] <froydnj> glandium: the line is so fine, particularly at 2:30am :)
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602. # [02:51] <glandium> froydnj: at 2:30am, the line is blur
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606. # [02:51] <jcranmer> hey, I recognize that bug number
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608. # [02:51] <reuben> JosiahOne, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/tabview/ but IIRC that doesn't use CSS animations
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614. # [02:53] <JosiahOne> reuben: Thanks.
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623. # [02:56] <glandium> jcranmer: that requires gcc 4.5 or 4.6, doesn't it?
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640. # [03:02] <jcranmer> 4.5
641. # [03:02] <glandium> jcranmer: and clang 3.1?
642. # [03:02] * glandium wants to use auto
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648. # [03:03] <jcranmer> clang-min should be 3.1
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652. # [03:04] <glandium> jcranmer: i'm not sure we actually check the clang version
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654. # [03:05] <jcranmer> I don't think we do either
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661. # [03:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7fc23428c3b - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 823010 - B2G SMS: We should not ack reception when there's a storage error. r=vicamo, ferjm a=blocking-b2g
662. # [03:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30b9fbf49c01 - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 823010 - Fix test cases. r=jgriffin
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676. # [03:14] <Callek> Waldo: ping
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678. # [03:14] <Waldo> Callek: pong
679. # [03:14] <Callek> Waldo: your mail is still @ mit ?
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682. # [03:15] <Callek> or am I confusing you with someone else
683. # [03:15] <Waldo> Callek: it is, but MIT's been having some fun issues today (someone commandeered mit.edu DNS entries (!)), so things are a little freaky with email right now, although it's semi-sorta-kinda-almost fully working again now
684. # [03:16] <Callek> one of our lovely IT people quoted: (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail.mit.edu[143.248.102.146]: Connection refused) jwalden+bmo@mit.edu
685. # [03:16] <Callek> let me see if thats a real issue on "our" end real quick
686. # [03:17] <Waldo> I would guess that's part of the whole DNS hijacking
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688. # [03:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d800ecb735c9 - Justin Lebar - Bug 833629 - Rebucket memory telemetry histograms. r=njn
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690. # [03:18] <dumitru> we found Waldo !!!
691. # [03:18] <ashish> Waldo: anywhere i could follow status?
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693. # [03:19] <Waldo> ashish: of the MIT restoration stuff? 3down.mit.edu has a few notes, but I think it's a DNS propagation thing, so they can't do much to speed it up, nor to know the status of propagation to ISPs and such :-(
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695. # [03:20] <Waldo> dumitru: took you long enough :-P
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697. # [03:20] <Waldo> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5098218 fwiw on the DNS thing
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700. # [03:21] <ashish> Waldo: thanks much!
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702. # [03:21] <Waldo> np
703. # [03:21] <dumitru> Waldo is always elusive!
704. # [03:21] <Waldo> although, I'm not exactly sure how I managed to get 3down.mit.edu working when mit.edu was hijacked, to be sure :-)
705. # [03:22] <Waldo> I have ways I could have worked around this, but I'm not really aware of an easy one (like, say, a site with separate DNS entries) if you don't have an MIT account
706. # [03:23] <Waldo> makes me appreciate the extra effort of something like http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/ more
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708. # [03:23] <@bz> IS anyone else not getting bugmail?
709. # [03:23] <@bz> I'm getting other bugmail, but no bugmail for hours now...
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712. # [03:25] <ashish> bz: you're mit? :)
713. # [03:25] <@bz> yes
714. # [03:25] <@bz> I guess it's possible some MTAs have bogus DNS entries so far
715. # [03:25] <ashish> yeah
716. # [03:25] <@bz> ok
717. # [03:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a4b4df8f9dc - Daniel Holbert - Bug 833547: Mark extensions/gio and toolkit/system/gnome as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=karlt
718. # [03:25] <ashish> your mail is still in the queue
719. # [03:25] <@bz> well, it's weird to not have mail for things that happened 5 hours ago. ;)
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721. # [03:26] * @bz is not too worried as long as it's not perma-lost
722. # [03:27] <ashish> the noodle bowl of DNS propagation
723. # [03:27] <@bz> all network propagation
724. # [03:27] <@bz> I mean BGP?
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726. # [03:28] <ashish> bz: maybe. i haven't given it anything more than a passing glance
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728. # [03:29] <Waldo> http://gizmodo.com/5978039/hackers-incoherently-deface-entire-mit-website as well
729. # [03:29] <Waldo> bz: yeah, I'm really hoping it wasn't perma-lost too :-\
730. # [03:29] <Waldo> ashish: that applies to all @mit hopefully?
731. # [03:30] <ashish> Waldo: yes. 235+ emails to mit.edu in the queue
732. # [03:30] <Waldo> ashish: excellent, thanks
733. # [03:30] <avih> for what exactly is MOZ_WIDGET_GONK defined?
734. # [03:31] <Waldo> I suppose this is karmic justice for the feeling of relief I had a year ago during the great @mozilla.com mail hosage, or something :-) :-\
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743. # [03:35] <JosiahOne> There's a bug mail problem? Or does it only effect @mit.edu? I've been getting bug mail for the last hour.
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745. # [03:36] <@bz> Waldo: was that really a year ago?
746. # [03:36] <@bz> waldo: yikes, I guess it was.
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748. # [03:36] <@bz> Waldo: it somehow felt like last fall...
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751. # [03:36] <@bz> JosiahOne: there's an mit.edu problem
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753. # [03:37] <nemo> bz: related to the domain hack?
754. # [03:37] <@bz> presumably.
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756. # [03:37] * @bz has no idea what this domain hack thing is
757. # [03:37] <@bz> so...
758. # [03:37] <JosiahOne> Bz: But it's only mit right?
759. # [03:37] <dumitru> http://gizmodo.com/5978039/hackers-incoherently-deface-entire-mit-website
760. # [03:37] <@bz> JosiahOne: You tell me!
761. # [03:37] <@bz> dumitru: fun
762. # [03:38] <JosiahOne> Bz, Sorry, just checking. It works for me.
763. # [03:38] <JosiahOne> :)
764. # [03:38] <dumitru> you didn't want to be in IT at mit today, that's for sure.
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767. # [03:39] <@bz> sure sounds like it based on that article. ;)
768. # [03:39] <dumitru> all because a network engineer watched porn at work.
769. # [03:39] <@bz> mmm
770. # [03:39] <JosiahOne> Dumitru: Lol. I hope your not serious.
771. # [03:39] <JosiahOne> But I can believe it.
772. # [03:39] <@bz> I should note that a large chunk of that work is done by student volunteers
773. # [03:40] <@bz> Or was 10 years ago at least.
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777. # [03:40] <dumitru> JosiahOne: read the article :)
778. # [03:40] <Waldo> I would be a little surprised at that now, but who knows
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780. # [03:41] <dumitru> it's not impossible, ya'know :)
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783. # [03:43] <Waldo> sure
784. # [03:43] <JosiahOne> Okay, you weren't serious. That's good. But I could see something like that happening. :)
785. # [03:43] <Waldo> if the claim in the gizmodo article is accurate, I really want to know about that supposed browser exploit, because there's a better-than-average chance that might be us :-\
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788. # [03:44] <dumitru> Waldo: yep, this crossed my mind too
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790. # [03:44] <dumitru> Waldo: or IE?
791. # [03:44] <JosiahOne> Waldo: Oh boy. Wouldn't that be fun.
792. # [03:45] <dumitru> "fun"!
793. # [03:45] <Waldo> dumitru: MIT runs a custom Ubuntu flavor known as Athena for most stuff, and netops in particular I really can't see using Windows boxen
794. # [03:45] <Waldo> unless it's someone's personal computer, but that seems a bit improbable
795. # [03:45] <dumitru> Waldo: I see
796. # [03:45] <JosiahOne> Waldo, Yikes, that does boost the probability.
797. # [03:45] <Waldo> could also be they don't use Athena machines, but Occam's Razor and all that
798. # [03:46] <jlebar> Suppose I want to remove an item from CXXFLAGS for all directories under, say, gfx/cairo.
799. # [03:46] <jlebar> My make fu is weak; can someone help me with this?
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804. # [03:49] <jlebar> Oh, it's just $(filter-out -foo,$(CFLAGS))? That's not so bad...
805. # [03:49] <JosiahOne> Jlebar: Glad we could help. ;)
806. # [03:49] <dumitru> lol
807. # [03:50] <JosiahOne> It's hard work, sending info to people's minds.
808. # [03:50] <JosiahOne> (Especially across states)
809. # [03:50] <dumitru> maybe I sent it to his browser.
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812. # [03:51] <JosiahOne> Dumitru: Maybe... But I prefer the telepathic waves being sent across the world. :)
813. # [03:51] <dumitru> :)
814. # [03:52] <JosiahOne> Actually, i haven't tried other countries. Next time someone in Toronto needs something, I can try again.
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818. # [03:53] <JosiahOne> Jimb: Why do you keep leaving? And then return
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821. # [03:54] <JosiahOne> In a matter of seconds.
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824. # [03:55] <jlebar> Hm, but that does not apply recursively, apparently.
825. # [03:55] <Callek> jlebar: tehre is likely a better/smarter way to do that, I would make sure you get a build system peer review and or try to catch ted/khuey/gps/glandium during their working-time
826. # [03:55] <jlebar> Callek: Yeah.
827. # [03:56] <Sentry> Hello, can anyone help me out with a compile error?
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830. # [03:57] <JosiahOne> Sentry: Perhaps, would you prefer the brain waves, or text?
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833. # [03:57] <Sentry> Well I was just seeing if anyone had time before I posted the issue
834. # [03:57] <Sentry> but anyways
835. # [03:57] <JosiahOne> Sentry, I'm just kidding. What's the error.
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837. # [03:58] <Sentry> I am working on my first bug, I updated the spelling dictionary
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840. # [03:58] <Sentry> before the change I could build fine
841. # [03:58] <Sentry> now i get a permissions error
842. # [03:58] <Sentry> mozilla-central\\obj-i686-pc-mingw32\\dom\\bindings\\SVGPoint.webidl
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844. # [03:58] <Sentry> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
845. # [03:59] <Mavericks> Sentry: pastebin
846. # [03:59] <JosiahOne> Mavericks: Exactly what I was going to say. :)
847. # [03:59] <Sentry> pastebin?
848. # [03:59] <Sentry> sorry brand new here
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850. # [03:59] <Mavericks> Sentry: that's ok. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/
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852. # [04:00] <JosiahOne> Sentry: That will become one of your best friends.
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855. # [04:02] <JosiahOne> Sentry: Also, what platform are you on?
856. # [04:02] <markh1> obj-i686-pc-mingw32 == windows?
857. # [04:02] <Sentry> yea
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859. # [04:02] <Sentry> Win 7
860. # [04:02] <Sentry> 64 bit
861. # [04:03] * JosiahOne wonders why it is mingw32?
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863. # [04:03] <markh> Sentry: copy the last relevant lines directly from the build output and paste it to a new entry on pastebin.mozilla.org, then paste the url to the entry here
864. # [04:03] <JosiahOne> Why not just win32?
865. # [04:04] <Sentry> ok
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868. # [04:04] <Sentry> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2079462
869. # [04:04] <markh> iiuc, that is what |uname| or similar returns when run under the moz build environment
870. # [04:04] <Sentry> I think that got it
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872. # [04:05] <Sentry> that's the very first error
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874. # [04:05] <markh> Sentry: can you remove that file from the obj-* dir manually?
875. # [04:05] <Sentry> I get a couple more just like it after that one, all .webidl files
876. # [04:07] <JosiahOne> Semtry: Did you make a patch by any chance?
877. # [04:07] <JosiahOne> Sentry*
878. # [04:07] <Sentry> I made a change, yes. I updated the en_US dictionary file
879. # [04:08] <Sentry> for spellcheck
880. # [04:08] <JosiahOne> But did you patch it?
881. # [04:08] <Sentry> no
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883. # [04:08] <Sentry> I made the change, and I was trying to build it to test my change
884. # [04:08] <JosiahOne> Ah. I wonder if you can.
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886. # [04:08] <JosiahOne> Hmm.
887. # [04:09] <JosiahOne> What happens if you remove your change?
888. # [04:09] <Sentry> haven't tried that yet
889. # [04:09] <Sentry> I guess I need to
890. # [04:09] <JosiahOne> I would. Just to make sure it isn't you.
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892. # [04:10] <markh> It sounds unlikely any change like that would cause a file in the obj dir to be unremovable
893. # [04:10] <@bz> The chance of a change to a dictionary file affecting dom/bindings stuff is 0
894. # [04:10] <@bz> or pretty darn close to it.
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896. # [04:10] <@bz> I suggest trying what markh said.
897. # [04:10] <Sentry> markh
898. # [04:10] <Sentry> I can go and manually delete those files
899. # [04:10] <Sentry> through windows explorer
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901. # [04:11] <Sentry> I haven't tried with the shell mozilla provides
902. # [04:11] <JosiahOne> I agree we markh.
903. # [04:11] <markh> and if you re-run the build after doing that, it then copies that file OK and fails on the next one?
904. # [04:11] <@dolske> win 16
905. # [04:11] <Sentry> let me try and see what happens, may be a few, takes about 20 min to get to this point
906. # [04:12] <JosiahOne> You could also try getting the source again, if all else fails.
907. # [04:12] <JosiahOne> Hopefully you haven't changed a lot.
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909. # [04:13] <Sentry> its just odd if deleting this works because the date modified is a date that is before i even started working on this
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912. # [04:13] <JosiahOne> Weird...
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914. # [04:14] <JosiahOne> But Windows doesn't usually provide accurate "date modified". So maybe it's just a fluke.
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920. # [04:17] <markh> the date of the files in the obj-dir is the same as in the source dir
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926. # [04:20] <JosiahOne> Markh: You know this how?
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929. # [04:20] <markh> Sentry: if the problem persists, try disabling your virus scanner and/or the ms "windows search" service (the latter is unlikely, and the former is likely only if you have a very dumb one) :)
930. # [04:20] <markh> JosiahOne: observation ;)
931. # [04:21] <JosiahOne> But were did you see this? From the log?
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933. # [04:22] <JosiahOne> Markh: I didn't see such info.
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935. # [04:22] <markh> JosiahOne: I clobberd my obj dir yesterday. In the newly built dir, SVGPoint.webidl has the same datestamp in both the source and obj directories, both in dec-2012
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937. # [04:24] <JosiahOne> Markh: I see. You didn't just know that from logs that supplied no info.
938. # [04:24] <JosiahOne> You freaked me out for a second. :)
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940. # [04:24] <JosiahOne> It was like you were a spy.
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943. # [04:25] <JosiahOne> ... You took down mit didn't you? ;)
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949. # [04:28] <JosiahOne> Anyway, I must go to bed, I am making weird comments now. That's a sign.
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951. # [04:28] <JosiahOne> Good luck Sentry!
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953. # [04:28] <markh> "browser exploits r us"
954. # [04:29] <Sentry> Thanks JosiahOne
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957. # [04:31] <dougt> kk1fff: i'll do it tonight.
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961. # [04:35] <kk1fff> dougt: thanks!
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1008. # [05:06] <Sentry> So I guess deleting the file worked because I got a successful build
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1024. # [05:15] <firebot> Check-in:
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1027. # [05:15] <firebot> fixed-pos containing blocks when transformed. r=bzbarsky
1028. # [05:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/19124ba6cd20 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 833427: Hide the homescreen widget. [r=mfinkle, a=akeybl]
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1053. # [05:40] <dougt> if I am going to back out a change to an IDL that has already shipped (was checked in May 23), should I revert the uuid to exactly what it was, or should I bump it to something new?
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1055. # [05:44] <njn> dougt: I'd bump it. But that's based only on my gut.
1056. # [05:44] <dougt> yeah, that is what I am doing -- it is the safest bet.
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1101. # [06:18] <philor> that's going to leave a mark
1102. # [06:19] <philor> roc: reftest orange
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1108. # [06:22] <@roc> I'll back it out
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1182. # [07:32] <philor> if the first failure in the summary is "fatal error: too many errors emitted, stopping now [-ferror-limit=]" that's a bad sign, isn't it?
1183. # [07:32] <philor> mattwoodrow: beta's unhappy
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1200. # [07:48] <philikon> philor: try was green!
1201. # [07:48] <philor> philikon: sure, but you tried with a stale old mozilla-central!
1202. # [07:49] <philikon> well, the last PGO green yes
1203. # [07:49] <philikon> FML
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1206. # [07:49] <philikon> philor: thanks
1207. # [07:49] <philor> if I'd noticed what burnt you before I backed you out, I might have taken out rwood instead
1208. # [07:50] <philikon> it's fine
1209. # [07:50] <philikon> easy enough to reland
1210. # [07:50] <philikon> (in the morning)
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1215. # [07:55] <philor> wow, for the first time since the last merge, how can that be?
1216. # [07:56] <philor> can anyone physically poke mattwoodrow into saying "I'm on it"?
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1282. # [08:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c5e676ed5b0 - Edgar Chen - Bug 809726 - Part 3: Exporting contacts to SIM. r=allstars.chh
1283. # [08:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7890512ebda6 - Edgar Chen - Bug 809726 - Part 1: Add new interface in nsIRadioInterfaceLayer. r=allstars.chh
1284. # [08:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbbfde578294 - Edgar Chen - Bug 809726 - Part 2: Support update command. r=allstars.chh
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1341. # [09:49] <panitaliemom> hi
1342. # [09:49] <panitaliemom> can i ask a question ?!
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1344. # [09:51] <@dbaron> panitaliemom, just ask it, and then people will know if they can answer
1345. # [09:51] <cers> though most are probably asleep now
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1349. # [09:52] <glazou> bonjour
1350. # [09:52] <@roc> dbaron: where are you now?
1351. # [09:52] <@dbaron> roc, London, but heading back home tomorrow
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1353. # [09:53] <@dbaron> (tomorrow being Thursday)
1354. # [09:54] <@roc> ah right
1355. # [09:54] <@roc> you've been there for over a week now eh?
1356. # [09:54] <@dbaron> roc, yes
1357. # [09:54] <@roc> sounds fun
1358. # [09:55] <glazou> roc: if you except snow and ice, yes
1359. # [09:56] <@dbaron> the weather's not that bad; the coldest it got at night was about -3°C, and on the weekend I avoided going anywhere that involved above-ground transport (which wasn't entirely working)
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1361. # [09:57] <glazou> will be much colder on friday
1362. # [09:57] <@roc> I enjoy snow and ice
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1367. # [09:58] <@roc> it's fun to experience seasons the way Western culture expects them to be
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1369. # [09:58] <@dbaron> for London, the met office says -3°C on Friday (and then really warming up Saturday and Sunday...oops, looks like I picked the wrong week to visit)
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1371. # [10:00] <glandium> jlebar: defs.mk
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1374. # [10:03] <glazou> dbaron: last beginning of february in paris was of the same kind, remember ?-)
1375. # [10:03] <@dbaron> glazou, this involved a little more snow accumulation than Paris last February
1376. # [10:03] <glazou> yep
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1380. # [10:07] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
1381. # [10:08] <glazou> wow
1382. # [10:08] <glazou> bonjour Ms2ger :-)
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1384. # [10:09] <Ms2ger> Hi glazou :)
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1387. # [10:14] <Tomcat> hey guys
1388. # [10:15] <Tomcat> is there a about:config pref to display the bookmarks toolbar by default
1389. # [10:16] <glazou> more probably a persistent attribute on the toolbar itself in the xul I think
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1391. # [10:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17661fe24da1 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833627 - Reject gcc < 4.4, and remove a few unused Xcode related variables. r=ted
1392. # [10:17] <Tomcat> hm ok
1393. # [10:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/458005d14e20 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833253 - Don't rely on eval during recursive expansion for nsinstall_is_usable. r=ted
1394. # [10:17] <Tomcat> so i guess not easy to modify for a custom build
1395. # [10:17] <glazou> Tomcat: probably the @collapsed attribute
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1403. # [10:19] <glazou> Tomcat: confirming, look for #PersonalToolbar in your localstore.rdf
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1407. # [10:20] <glazou> Tomcat: in fact it's very easy
1408. # [10:20] <glazou> see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.xul#833
1409. # [10:20] <glazou> change collapsed="true" to collapsed="false" in your own build
1410. # [10:21] <glazou> that should do the trick
1411. # [10:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9f778ff6697 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833627 - Change the gcc < 4.4 rejection error text in main configure.in to match js/src/configure.in's. DONTBUILD. r=ted
1412. # [10:22] <ewong> if I'm not a peer/owner of a module but I see a nit for a bug, can I point it out?
1413. # [10:23] <ewong> s/of a module/
1414. # [10:23] <ewong> s/of a module//
1415. # [10:23] * ewong facepalms
1416. # [10:23] <mcsmurf> why not? :)
1417. # [10:23] <mcsmurf> everyone can report bugs
1418. # [10:23] <ewong> mcsmurf: no.. I mean a nit for a patch
1419. # [10:23] <mcsmurf> or issues that others did not notice
1420. # [10:23] <glazou> sure you can
1421. # [10:24] <ewong> glazou: thanks..
1422. # [10:24] * mattwoodrow is now known as mattwoodrow|away
1423. # [10:24] <ewong> just did my first drive by nit.. :)
1424. # [10:24] <glazou> in fact if you notice an issue with a patch and do not report it, you're the guilty one for the future side-effects...
1425. # [10:25] <glazou> IMHO...
1426. # [10:25] <ewong> hope smaug didn't mind. :)
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1428. # [10:25] <Unfocused> yea, seriously, *please* do drivebys :)
1429. # [10:25] <ewong> \o/
1430. # [10:25] <glazou> ewong: you'll only have to pay him a glass of Lapin Kulta ;-)
1431. # [10:25] <Unfocused> wonderful way to learn more about other code too
1432. # [10:26] <ewong> Unfocused: totally agree :)
1433. # [10:26] <ewong> hah
1434. # [10:26] <glazou> hey Unfocused
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1436. # [10:26] <ewong> err. what's a Lapin Kulta?
1437. # [10:26] <Unfocused> glazou: hi :)
1438. # [10:26] <glazou> Unfocused: remeber my old issue with langpacks not enabled ? it was finally fixed :-)
1439. # [10:26] <glazou> s/remeber/remember
1440. # [10:27] <mcsmurf> ewong: looks like some Finnish beer brand ;)
1441. # [10:28] <ewong> ooh
1442. # [10:28] <Unfocused> which one? i reviewed the patch for fixing langpacks in /distribution/ - that one, or the compat one?
1443. # [10:28] <glazou> that one
1444. # [10:28] <glazou> drove me nuts
1445. # [10:29] <glazou> Lapin Kulta (fi) = Lapland's Gold (en)
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1447. # [10:29] <Unfocused> ah, yea. i'd missed a small detail in another patch review, which caused that :\
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1449. # [10:30] <glazou> building bluegriffon was hell because of it, I never knew when my builtin add-ons or langpacks were enabled or disabled...
1450. # [10:30] <Unfocused> sorry :(
1451. # [10:31] <glazou> that's ok
1452. # [10:31] <glazou> as soon as it was fixed before my 1.6 release :-D
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1455. # [10:33] <Unfocused> sadly, the test suite is a bit light when it comes to the handling of /distribution/, since its only kinda reluctantly supported
1456. # [10:36] <mcsmurf> noooooooo
1457. # [10:36] <mcsmurf> comparing with ssh://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom
1458. # [10:36] <mcsmurf> remote: Your mercurial account has been disabled due to inactivity.
1459. # [10:36] <mcsmurf> wtf, not again
1460. # [10:37] <mcsmurf> this system is bogus!
1461. # [10:37] <KWierso|Home> hehe
1462. # [10:37] <mcsmurf> really, the second or third time now that my account gets disabled
1463. # [10:37] <mcsmurf> after not using for a few weeks
1464. # [10:37] <Unfocused> er, hmm, i'm betting mine is probably disabled by now then :\
1465. # [10:38] <mcsmurf> someone told me it's supposed to be six month (I think)
1466. # [10:38] <mcsmurf> but somehow for me it's more like six weeks ;)
1467. # [10:39] <Unfocused> \o/ not disabled
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1469. # [10:39] <mcsmurf> last checkin from myself: 2013-01-09
1470. # [10:39] <mcsmurf> :-(
1471. # [10:39] <Unfocused> (unless "hg outgoing" isn't enough to trigger that)
1472. # [10:40] <mcsmurf> hg out triggers that warning
1473. # [10:40] <Unfocused> k
1474. # [10:40] <Unfocused> er, the 9th? mine last checkin was sometime in november
1475. # [10:40] <Unfocused> er, my last*
1476. # [10:40] <mcsmurf> yeah, something's broken there
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1480. # [10:43] * Unfocused misses hacking on code :\
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1484. # [10:44] <@dolske> Unfocused: the code misses you too. :3
1485. # [10:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00f75c7fb670 - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 823010 - Fix test cases. r=jgriffin
1486. # [10:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaa2f811232a - Philipp von Weitershausen - Bug 823010 - B2G SMS: We should not ack reception when there's a storage error. r=vicamo, ferjm a=blocking-b2g
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1489. # [10:46] <glazou> so my country has passed an official act to specify a french translation for "hashtag"... seriously ?!?
1490. # [10:46] <mcsmurf> "Not sure why I got deactivated due to "inactivity" b/c I was pushing to try last week..."
1491. # [10:46] <mcsmurf> heh (from another hg account disabled bug)
1492. # [10:47] <smontagu> le hashtague?
1493. # [10:47] <glazou> worse
1494. # [10:47] <glazou> le "mot-dièse"
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1496. # [10:47] * smontagu rofl
1497. # [10:48] <smontagu> that's like the official Hebrew translation of "@"
1498. # [10:48] <glazou> smontagu: hilarious, really http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000026972451
1499. # [10:48] <smontagu> popular slang for it is "strudel"
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1501. # [10:48] <mcsmurf> :D
1502. # [10:49] <smontagu> and they came out with an official translation "כרוכית"
1503. # [10:49] <Unfocused> i don't even...
1504. # [10:49] <mcsmurf> I like strudel!
1505. # [10:49] <mcsmurf> (the food :-)
1506. # [10:49] <@dolske> the germans call it ein berliner, I've heard.
1507. # [10:49] <@dolske> ;)
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1509. # [10:50] <glazou> the last time english tech words were officially translated into french, the member of government who made the law was Jacques Toubon ; right after that, everyone here nicknamed him Jack Allgood :-)
1510. # [10:50] <Ms2ger> dolske, more commonly, a "jfk"
1511. # [10:50] <mcsmurf> haha :P
1512. # [10:50] * Ms2ger never got further than ordinateur
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1514. # [10:51] <glazou> ordinateur is actually a very nice word
1515. # [10:51] <Ms2ger> :)
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1517. # [10:52] <glandium> glazou: i'm pretty sure there have been official translations since then
1518. # [10:52] <glandium> (of tech words)
1519. # [10:52] <glazou> yeah but they went unnoticed
1520. # [10:52] <Yoric> Interestingly, "ordinateur" was commissioned by IBM to the Académie Française.
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1522. # [10:52] <Yoric> And the Académie Française initially came up with "ordinatrice".
1523. # [10:53] <Yoric> Which is even nicer :)
1524. # [10:53] <smontagu> to align it with the proper Hebrew term for the food
1525. # [10:53] <glazou> that's why computers in tv series have a female voice !
1526. # [10:53] <Ms2ger> Alright, any other Frenchies who want to come in? mounir? :)
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1530. # [10:54] <glazou> does someone know the bug that removed support for xmlStandalone, xmlVersion and xmlEncoding in the DOM ?
1531. # [10:55] <gfritzsche> dolske, nope berliner is something different
1532. # [10:55] <glazou> isn't it a cake ?
1533. # [10:55] <gfritzsche> more similar to a doughnut perhaps?
1534. # [10:55] <gfritzsche> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_%28doughnut%29
1535. # [10:56] <glazou> ah right
1536. # [10:56] <glazou> thanks for reminding me I had no breakfast this morning :-D
1537. # [10:56] * Ms2ger throws a croissant at glazou
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1539. # [10:57] <glazou> yummy
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1541. # [10:57] <glandium> Ms2ger: ordinaire or beurre?
1542. # [10:57] <Ms2ger> Beurre, tiens
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1548. # [11:03] <glandium> glazou: fwiw, quebec people apparently use "mot-clic"
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1550. # [11:03] <gfritzsche> is there any documentation for the crash signature field on bmo?
1551. # [11:04] <glazou> gl0
1552. # [11:04] <glazou> 
1553. # [11:04] <glazou> glandium: urggggh
1554. # [11:04] <gfritzsche> wondering if crash-stats polls from bmo for the crash sig field and what the exact format is
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1557. # [11:09] <NeilAway> $glandium =~ s/r /u /
1558. # [11:09] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: same as the sig in crash-stats no?
1559. # [11:09] <glandium> NeilAway: uh?
1560. # [11:09] <NeilAway> glandium: should have been "ordinaire ou beurre?" no?
1561. # [11:10] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: well, apparently you can at list provide at least a list of sigs
1562. # [11:10] <gfritzsche> [@ sig1] [@ sig2]
1563. # [11:11] <glandium> NeilAway: i did mean to use two french words in a three-word english sentence
1564. # [11:13] <NeilAway> glandium: well, you succeeded in confusing me
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1566. # [11:14] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: ah, good point
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1569. # [11:14] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: would you mind quickly confirming here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744745#c23
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1573. # [11:17] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: which page are you looking at sorry?
1574. # [11:17] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: oh, sorry, http://vimeo.com/39393474
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1583. # [11:22] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: ok, so visiting that link, I get a CTP placeholder
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1586. # [11:23] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: weird, i don't see one... thanks
1587. # [11:23] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: ah, but that's with the patch
1588. # [11:23] <gfritzsche> yeah, that would make sense
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1591. # [11:23] <gfritzsche> looks like opacity is to blame here
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1615. # [11:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/176b448e4a38 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 833578 - Start AudioSegment playing after first write rather than waiting for AudioStream's buffer to fill. r=roc
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1619. # [11:48] <glazou> hey Ms2ger you knew the answer to my question...
1620. # [11:49] <glazou> and did not reply but they were your bugs
1621. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Which?
1622. # [11:49] <glazou> xmlencoding, xmlversion and xmlstandalone
1623. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Ah
1624. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Well, that sounds like me, doesn't it?
1625. # [11:50] <glazou> not the best commits you've ever done...
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1627. # [11:51] <Ms2ger> Would be sad if that'd been my best work of the past few years, no? :)
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1630. # [11:53] <@roc> mmmmmm DRM
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1632. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> And a good morning to you too, roc :)
1633. # [12:01] <@roc> do you actually read public-html-admin?
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1635. # [12:02] <glazou> public-html-admin
1636. # [12:02] <glazou> sorry
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1643. # [12:15] <hsivonen> glazou: how much does it matter to BlueGriffon if something is in the Web-exposed DOM API versus in some chrome-only nsI stuff?
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1646. # [12:15] <glazou> chrome-only is enough to me but that does not answer to my two questions
1647. # [12:16] <glazou> 1. why do you all seem to want to kill XML?
1648. # [12:16] <glazou> 2. why do leave a hole in the OM?
1649. # [12:16] <glazou> do you
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1656. # [12:18] <hsivonen> glazou: you are misdiagnosing me as wanting to kill XML
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1658. # [12:18] <hsivonen> glazou: I don't want the OM to expose syntactic artifacts that scripts should not make decisions on
1659. # [12:18] <glazou> ok but that's the impression you give and that you includes many people, and I'm not the only here having it
1660. # [12:19] <glazou> s/here/one
1661. # [12:19] <hsivonen> glazou: I wonder if those people think David Megginson is an XML hater, too, for correctly modeling XML in the SAX API
1662. # [12:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7bc74ed9256 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 781570 - Part 1/2 - Implement .valueAsNumber for <input type='time'>. r=smaug
1663. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2f8673cfafa - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 781570 - Part 2/2 - Implement .valueAsDate for <input type='time'>. r=smaug
1664. # [12:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1bbce6c7e006 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Import new packager code. r=gps
1665. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bd4704b3f8a2 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Fix the buildconfig python module handling of environment variables. r=ted
1666. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bff0f21a6d7b - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Don't try to install *.xpm files, we don't have any nowadays. r=ted
1667. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ec95c1d93af0 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Use new packager code for packaging (packager.mk) r=ted
1668. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dc892ed6323b - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Use new packager code for l10n repacks. r=ted
1669. # [12:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e9f39220b8e7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Remove now unused bits of the packaging scripts. r=ted
1670. # [12:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d72dec47f80a - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Unit tests for the new packager code. r=ted,r=gps
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1688. # [12:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38cf4fcc0187 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 833340 - Fix a couple of jittests failing with rooting analysis r=terrence
1689. # [12:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2439886cc1b - Jon Coppeard - Bug 832363 - GC: Rooting updates to jsdate.cpp r=sphink
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1718. # [13:05] <jfkthame> mounir: looks like your push is burning b2g on inbound, are you onto it?
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1720. # [13:09] <RyanVM> jfkthame: I'll back it out
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1722. # [13:10] <jfkthame> RyanVM: ok, thanks - i was going to threaten that unless mounir responded in a few mins
1723. # [13:11] <jfkthame> apparently windows doesn't like it either
1724. # [13:11] <jfkthame> looks like adding a typecast would fix it, but i'd rather let mounir decide about that
1725. # [13:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d2f0c12218b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets a2f8673cfafa and c7bc74ed9256 (bug 781570) for b2g bustage.
1726. # [13:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9f39220b8e7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Remove now unused bits of the packaging scripts. r=ted
1727. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec95c1d93af0 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Use new packager code for packaging (packager.mk) r=ted
1728. # [13:12] <mounir> gasp
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1730. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d72dec47f80a - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Unit tests for the new packager code. r=ted,r=gps
1731. # [13:12] <mounir> that went to try :(
1732. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc892ed6323b - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Use new packager code for l10n repacks. r=ted
1733. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd4704b3f8a2 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Fix the buildconfig python module handling of environment variables. r=ted
1734. # [13:12] <mounir> but m-i was closed for too long it seems
1735. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bff0f21a6d7b - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Don't try to install *.xpm files, we don't have any nowadays. r=ted
1736. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bbce6c7e006 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780561 - Import new packager code. r=gps
1737. # [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e70c3651eae7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
1738. # [13:12] <mounir> arf, no
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1740. # [13:12] <mounir> damn compilers
1741. # [13:13] <mounir> (that went to try on MacOSX only)
1742. # [13:13] <jfkthame> ah, gotcha
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1744. # [13:13] <mounir> this is what happens when we are told to save infra time :(
1745. # [13:14] <jfkthame> yeah, it's a tough call sometimes deciding how much risk to take
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1755. # [13:28] <@ted> gfritzsche: FWIW https://github.com/mozilla/socorro/blob/master/socorro/cron/bugzilla.py#L22
1756. # [13:28] <@ted> socorro just takes everything between [@ and ]
1757. # [13:28] <@ted> as many of those as you put in the "crash signature" field
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1759. # [13:29] <gfritzsche> ted: ah, cheers :)
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1761. # [13:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3696ad1d2e3 - Albert Perez - Bug 827198 - Avoid errors when time or timezone is changed. r=philipp
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1763. # [13:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55b63d585275 - Johnathan Nightingale - Bug 830767 - Implement a new about:mozilla for rapid release, android, b2g. r=Pike
1764. # [13:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0822c62978d1 - Raymond Lee - Bug 831407 - test_399606.js has been replaced by browser_bug399606.js and should thus be removed from the tree. r=mak
1765. # [13:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec47765fbad0 - Julien Wajsberg - Bug 830767 - Implement about:mozilla for B2G - HTML part. r=Pike
1766. # [13:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c0b05810722 - Raymond Lee - Bug 833125 - test_bug_411966.html and bug_411966/redirect.js are still using addURI. r=mak
1767. # [13:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73c201cb0912 - Raymond Lee - Bug 752217 - Replace usage of setPageTitle with updatePlaces. r=mak
1768. # [13:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/840023db4d12 - Benedict Singer - Bug 787095 - Update formMethod and formEnctype reflection to have the empty string as default value and correct invalid values. r=mounir
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1798. # [14:08] <gcp> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/a99fa7e2-3f1a-486f-8235-39c162130120
1799. # [14:08] <gcp> Available Page File 2009440256
1800. # [14:08] <gcp> Available Physical Memory 1663328256
1801. # [14:08] <gcp> Available Virtual Memory 1493192704
1802. # [14:09] <gcp> OOMAllocationSize 1716500
1803. # [14:09] <gcp> "what?"
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1806. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> Fragmentation?
1807. # [14:10] <Matti> this user has one of those stupid AV Extensions installed
1808. # [14:11] <gcp> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/924fa07b-cca9-4211-8ad6-59f7b2130121
1809. # [14:11] <gcp> Available Physical Memory 437129216
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1811. # [14:11] <gcp> OOMAllocationSize 2028
1812. # [14:13] <Matti> 32bit process limit ?
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1814. # [14:14] <gcp> nope, more than 3.5G address space free (64-bit OS it seems)
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1816. # [14:15] <gcp> What I see is that low pagefile is much more relevant than physical RAM free
1817. # [14:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9666a8ee5600 - L. David Baron - Add reftest for bug 830299.
1818. # [14:15] <Archae|mobile> and the second last report posted shows only 2GB
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1820. # [14:16] <gcp> I wonder if these are people what "optimized" Windows page file settings according to random internet guides :-/
1821. # [14:17] <Matti> you don't know how much RAM Firefox consumed at that time or ?
1822. # [14:18] <Archae|mobile> can this be page files with dynamic sizes filling the partition?
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1826. # [14:19] <gcp> Matti: yes, from the virtual ram free you can see it
1827. # [14:19] <RyanVM> is anybody else seeing "any minute now" ETAs for everything on tbpl?
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1830. # [14:19] <gcp> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/63e7fc1b-f155-4277-bf47-eb3972130119
1831. # [14:20] <gcp> Total Virtual Memory 2147352576
1832. # [14:20] <gcp> Available Virtual Memory 1988968448
1833. # [14:20] <gcp> subtract those 2 and you get how much we used
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1835. # [14:21] <gcp> so for example, the last report has Firefox using 150M ram
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1837. # [14:21] <gcp> the user has 50M physical RAM free, but only 5M pagefile free, and we crash trying to allocate 1.5M
1838. # [14:22] <gcp> whom should I cc to run a correlation report?
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1842. # [14:24] <Matti> KaiRo: can you answer the question from gcp ?
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1844. # [14:25] <gcp> I'll cc him.
1845. # [14:25] <gcp> oh, he already is in CC. even better.
1846. # [14:25] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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1848. # [14:26] <Yoric> yzen: Hi, can this wait 1h?
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1850. # [14:26] <Yoric> I need to go and grab some lunch :)
1851. # [14:26] <RyanVM> anyone?^
1852. # [14:26] <mcsmurf> does Windows have something like a known limit when malloc will fail?
1853. # [14:26] <mcsmurf> as in when there is only x MB of free RAM left
1854. # [14:26] <yzen> Yoric: sure :)
1855. # [14:26] <gcp> mcsmurf: due to fragmentation, I suppose not
1856. # [14:26] <yzen> Yoric: ill ping you then
1857. # [14:27] <Yoric> cool
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1863. # [14:30] <mikeratcliffe> Who would know about the Selectors Level 4 spec? I need to know whether it is implemented or not.
1864. # [14:30] <glazou> a section in particular ?
1865. # [14:30] <mikeratcliffe> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#negation
1866. # [14:31] <Ms2ger> :not()? Yes, that's implemented
1867. # [14:31] <glazou> but not compound selectors as arguments
1868. # [14:31] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: are you seeing any minute now ETAs on inbound?
1869. # [14:31] * glazou did first implementation of :not() so long ago
1870. # [14:31] <mikeratcliffe> glazou: What about type selectors?
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1872. # [14:31] <glazou> sure
1873. # [14:31] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, not seeing anything on reddit...
1874. # [14:31] <glazou> :not(p)
1875. # [14:31] * Ms2ger opens tbpl
1876. # [14:32] <glazou> that's implemented since 2000
1877. # [14:32] <glazou> or 2001
1878. # [14:32] * whimboo|afk is now known as whimboo
1879. # [14:32] <mikeratcliffe> How about not(svg|a)?
1880. # [14:32] <glazou> same thing
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1882. # [14:32] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, don't think so
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1885. # [14:33] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: Hmm, OK. For some reason, I'm seeing "any minute now" as the ETA for all running jobs
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1887. # [14:33] <glandium> glazou: https://twitter.com/daorette/status/294006400458305536
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1889. # [14:33] <glazou> glandium: lol
1890. # [14:34] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, I see a lot of missing ones, though
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1893. # [14:34] <glandium> glazou: you mean mdr
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1895. # [14:35] <mikeratcliffe> glazou: Can you take a look at this gist?
1896. # [14:35] <mikeratcliffe> https://gist.github.com/4605594
1897. # [14:35] <mikeratcliffe> It explains my problem clearly.
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1899. # [14:35] <glazou> glandium: I meant ppdmc
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1905. # [14:37] <glandium> glazou: aren't you a little young for incontinence?
1906. # [14:37] <glazou> or a little old :-D
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1909. # [14:38] <glazou> mikeratcliffe: mozMatchesSelector() does not accept namespace prefixes, just like querySelector()
1910. # [14:39] <mikeratcliffe> So we can't trust it to tell us that a selector is valid or not?
1911. # [14:39] <glazou> because there's no way to specify the prefixes inside the query at this time
1912. # [14:39] <glazou> valid against what ?
1913. # [14:39] <glazou> which stylesheet ?
1914. # [14:39] <glazou> which prefix declaration ?
1915. # [14:39] <mikeratcliffe> I see
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1918. # [14:41] <mikeratcliffe> In the developer css tools we check that selectors are valid using mozMatchesSelector. Hmmm, that is awkward :o/
1919. # [14:41] <mikeratcliffe> Thx
1920. # [14:41] <@bz> hrm
1921. # [14:41] * @bz is still not getting bugmail.....
1922. # [14:41] <glazou> np
1923. # [14:41] <Ms2ger> Good morning
1924. # [14:41] <@bz> I wonder how long this will last.
1925. # [14:41] * NeilAway ponders the readability of an 8-line if clause
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1929. # [14:44] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, readability level: editor
1930. # [14:44] * @bz is actually getting pretty worried about getting his bugmail
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1932. # [14:44] <glazou> mikeratcliffe: that is a wrong strategy anyway
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1934. # [14:44] <glazou> what if a document has its own foo namespace ?
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1936. # [14:45] <mikeratcliffe> I know
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1938. # [14:45] <glazou> where's the declaration ?
1939. # [14:45] <mikeratcliffe> The problem is that we need to check if a selector matched a node
1940. # [14:45] <Ms2ger> bz, is this mit being broken? Waldo mentioned something about that yesterday
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1942. # [14:45] <@bz> Well
1943. # [14:45] <mikeratcliffe> So we use element.mozMatchesSelector(aSelector)
1944. # [14:45] <@bz> Maybe it is
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1946. # [14:45] <@bz> But mail from eveywhere else is making it through fine
1947. # [14:46] <mikeratcliffe> As far as I know this is the only way to check if a css rule matches an element
1948. # [14:46] <@bz> mikeratcliffe: We could add an API for you to use here.
1949. # [14:46] <@bz> mikeratcliffe: but it would need to take the set of bound prefixes or something....
1950. # [14:46] <glazou> mikeratcliffe: one document linked to 2 stylesheets both defining prefix foo but to DIFFERENT URLs... what means foo|xxxxx ?
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1953. # [14:46] <@bz> mikeratcliffe: and if you realy want to test for matching, not just for parseability, it would need to take what those prefixes are bound to.
1954. # [14:47] <mikeratcliffe> Exactly
1955. # [14:47] <glazou> bz: see my example just above
1956. # [14:47] <nmatsakis> how do I run mochitests in a debugger again?
1957. # [14:48] <nmatsakis> someone once told me an environment variable for this
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1960. # [14:50] <mcsmurf> nmatsakis: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mochitest#Debugging_individual_tests
1961. # [14:50] <nmatsakis> mcsmurf: oh, great, thanks!
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1963. # [14:52] <mikeratcliffe> glazou: Could we not use something simple like element.mozMatchesSelectorNS("http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml", aSelector)?
1964. # [14:52] <@bz> mikeratcliffe: what would the semantics of that be?
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1966. # [14:52] <@bz> mikeratcliffe: say aSelector is "foo|p > bar:q"
1967. # [14:53] <@bz> er, "foo|p > bar|q"
1968. # [14:53] <mikeratcliffe> Ah, you are right ... more awkward then
1969. # [14:53] <glazou> mikeratcliffe: you declared a namespace URL but where's the prefix
1970. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> element.mozMatchesSelectorNS(aSelector, { "xhtml": "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" })
1971. # [14:54] <sheppy> Namespace: the final frontier...
1972. # [14:54] <@bz> Right
1973. # [14:54] <mikeratcliffe> hehe
1974. # [14:54] <glazou> Ms2ger: cleaner, yes
1975. # [14:54] <sheppy> My medication is kicking in. Don't mind me.
1976. # [14:54] <@bz> That's what some of the proposals were at some point for mozMatchesSelector and company
1977. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> element.mozMatchesSelectorNS(aSelector, { "xhtml": function() { throw 42 } })
1978. # [14:54] <@bz> We could do it if we grabbed all the mappings up front
1979. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> Sorry, bad habit
1980. # [14:54] <@bz> or something
1981. # [14:55] <glazou> sheppy: you don't need an excuse for a star trek ref ;-)
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1983. # [14:55] <sheppy> glazou: excellent.
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1985. # [14:56] <Ms2ger> bz, alright, who defined iteration order? :)
1986. # [14:56] <@bz> Ms2ger: for named props like that, ES6
1987. # [14:57] <Ms2ger> bz, whoa
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1991. # [15:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: in fact, current ES6 draft always defines iteration order
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1993. # [15:00] <jorendorff> it has been cast in stone for ten years, it just wasn't *formally* specified
1994. # [15:01] <@bz> jorendorff: not true
1995. # [15:01] <@bz> jorendorff: for indices
1996. # [15:01] <@bz> jorendorff: but yes, for named props.
1997. # [15:01] <jorendorff> indices are an exception yeah
1998. # [15:01] <@bz> Awesome.
1999. # [15:01] <jorendorff> yeah, there might be some wiggle room here and there generally, due to implementation silliness
2000. # [15:01] <jorendorff> but mostly
2001. # [15:02] <@bz> Looks like the combination of Bugzilla and IT did in fact lose all my bugmail from yesterday, most likely
2002. # [15:02] * @bz wonders how to find the relevant bugs...
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2004. # [15:02] <sheppy> Ouch
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2006. # [15:02] <AutomatedTester> bz: dkl|afk is a Bugzilla dev in #ateam with glob|away
2007. # [15:03] <AutomatedTester> dkl|afk should be online "soon" and might be able to help
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2009. # [15:03] * glob|away is now known as glob
2010. # [15:03] <AutomatedTester> or glob :)
2011. # [15:03] <glob> you rang?
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2013. # [15:04] <AutomatedTester> bz is a tad unhappy about losing bugmail
2014. # [15:04] <@bz> glob: let's do this in #it
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2016. # [15:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35e0c12f4332 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 825739 - Intermittent exception thrown by browser_bookmark_titles.js.
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2028. # [15:11] <jesup> bz: search for bugs you're cc'd on or assigned (or reported), and sort by last-change date (repeat for any components you follow). Include closed/duped bugs... THat should be close
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2030. # [15:12] <srishti> Hi I was trying to build firefox but I am getting the following error http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2080555
2031. # [15:12] <srishti> Can anyone help me resolve it?
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2033. # [15:12] <jdm> um, that's strange output
2034. # [15:12] <jdm> g++, then make error?
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2037. # [15:14] <glandium> srishti: is there an error message somewhere before that?
2038. # [15:14] <glandium> i wouldn't be surprised if mach is actually messing things up
2039. # [15:14] <srishti> There are warning messages but not error
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2041. # [15:17] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: wouldn't work, you're not trying to call the function, were you thinking of { get xhtml() { throw 42; } } ?
2042. # [15:17] <srishti> So what should I do?
2043. # [15:18] <@bz> jesup: that doesn't cover component watching
2044. # [15:18] <@bz> jesup: but yes, something like that.
2045. # [15:18] <gaston> srishti: jdm: that happens with make -j, the actual error might be some lines upper - since it runs multiple jobs, it's not necessarly the last previous line that failed
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2047. # [15:19] <@bz> jesup: oh, you mentioned that
2048. # [15:19] <jesup> bz: yeah, that's why I said "repeat for any components you follow". I think it has to be two separate searches
2049. # [15:19] <jesup> :-)
2050. # [15:19] * @bz wonders whether he can limit the "last changed" time range somehow
2051. # [15:19] <@bz> Because querying all bugs I'm cced on is no fun
2052. # [15:19] <NeilAway> jesup: surely you can achieve that with boolean charts?
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2054. # [15:20] * @bz wonders what values the "changed" boolean chart takes
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2056. # [15:20] <jesup> NeilAway: may be be worth spending too much time crafting for a one (or two)-off search
2057. # [15:20] <@bz> depends
2058. # [15:20] <jesup> may NOT be worth...
2059. # [15:21] <@bz> my search is coming up with 150 bugs so far
2060. # [15:21] * NeilAway wonders whether search by change history does date & time or just date
2061. # [15:21] <@bz> not counting component watching
2062. # [15:21] <srishti> But I only see Warning messages no errors before this line
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2064. # [15:21] <NeilAway> jesup: fair enough
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2066. # [15:22] <@bz> Ah, "Changed" "is greater than or equal to", "2012-01-22 09:00:00"
2067. # [15:22] <@bz> That cuts it down to 132
2068. # [15:22] <NeilAway> srishti: try make -C /home/srishti/src/obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/dom/plugins/test/testplugin and see whether you get any different error
2069. # [15:22] * @bz starts reading
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2075. # [15:25] <srishti> There is one line : cc1plus: all warnings being treated as errors
2076. # [15:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab062ee22a96 - James Willcox - Bug 800838 - Guard against invalid NPP when unscheduling plugin timers on Android r=blassey
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2079. # [15:27] <NeilAway> glandium: does the packaging rewrite the chrome.manifest or something to switch it from flat dist to jar package?
2080. # [15:27] <glandium> NeilAway: obviously, it does :)
2081. # [15:27] <NeilAway> glandium: whoa!
2082. # [15:27] <srishti> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2080617 heres the new error
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2086. # [15:28] <NeilAway> srishti: well, at least you have an error that people can help you with now, although I don't know what the solution is in your case
2087. # [15:29] <glandium> one more reason to hate FAIL_ON_WARNINGS
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2090. # [15:29] <JosiahOne> srishti: You didn't happen to change nptest.cpp did you?
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2092. # [15:30] <srishti> nup
2093. # [15:30] <JosiahOne> srishti: Is that a nope or a yup?
2094. # [15:30] <srishti> the only thing I created was the mozconfig file
2095. # [15:31] <srishti> should I attach a copy of that too?
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2097. # [15:31] <JosiahOne> srishti: Sure. Couldn't hurt.
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2100. # [15:31] <glandium> srishti: no need for that
2101. # [15:31] <JosiahOne> srishti: Actually, did you try building multiple times?
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2105. # [15:32] <JosiahOne> Sometimes I get a build that cancels, but re-building fixes the error. It's weird.
2106. # [15:32] <srishti> Ya
2107. # [15:32] <JosiahOne> Hmm.
2108. # [15:32] <srishti> I tried many times but I am getting the same error
2109. # [15:32] <glandium> srishti: you're building with fortify, aren't you?
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2112. # [15:33] <srishti> I am not sure what is that?
2113. # [15:33] <glandium> or worse, your compiler has fortify enabled by default
2114. # [15:34] <JosiahOne> glandium: Is that another compiler? Doesn't Linux use GCC?
2115. # [15:34] <JosiahOne> Or is it an add-on too gcc.
2116. # [15:34] <srishti> I have gcc
2117. # [15:34] <JosiahOne> srishti: Yeah, that's what I use.
2118. # [15:34] <glandium> srishti: did you add -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=something?
2119. # [15:35] <srishti> no
2120. # [15:35] <glandium> srishti: what does "gcc -o - -dM -E -xc /dev/null | grep FORTIFY" say?
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2122. # [15:36] <srishti> nothing
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2124. # [15:36] <srishti> i am using gcc only
2125. # [15:37] <NeilAway> glandium: why do we need an empty JAREXT?
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2127. # [15:37] <JosiahOne> srishti: BTW, Why did you change .mozconfig. I don't remember having to do that.
2128. # [15:37] <srishti> here is the .mozconfig file
2129. # [15:37] <srishti> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2080618
2130. # [15:37] <glandium> srishti: ubuntu?
2131. # [15:38] <srishti> I didn't change anything in that i think
2132. # [15:38] <srishti> ya ubuntu 12.04
2133. # [15:38] <glandium> iirc ubuntu enabled _FORTIFY_SOURCE. I just don't know how they did it. Might be somewhere in /usr/include/
2134. # [15:39] <JosiahOne> glandium: That's weird. Never happened to me. I'm on 12.10 though. What does the FORITY SOURCE option do?
2135. # [15:39] <glandium> JosiahOne: enables some additional checks
2136. # [15:40] <glandium> NeilAway: look at the package-manifest
2137. # [15:40] <JosiahOne> glandium: Seems kind of dumb that will cancel the entire build just for that.
2138. # [15:40] <JosiahOne> we, not will*
2139. # [15:40] <yzen> Yoric: ping
2140. # [15:40] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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2143. # [15:41] <yzen> Yoric: sorry to annoy you so much :), I was wondering if you had a chance to take a look at my comment for #828204
2144. # [15:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/594b9c2a8ccc - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 832120 cursor: auto; should be cursor: text; on editable element r=dbaron
2145. # [15:41] <glandium> srishti: add ac_add_options --disable-warnings-as-errors to your mozconfig
2146. # [15:41] <gfritzsche> glandium, srishti: apparently it's in the default flags: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain/CompilerFlags#A-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE.3D2
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2150. # [15:41] <Yoric> yzen: I seem to remember that you were absolutely right. Let me check :)
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2152. # [15:42] <glandium> srishti: and please file a bug with http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2080617
2153. # [15:43] <JosiahOne> srishti's gone...
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2156. # [15:43] <glandium> gah
2157. # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2cc396069a2 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 832987 - Make sure the launch state is updated on Gecko:Ready even if GeckoApp isn't around at the time. r=cpeterson
2158. # [15:43] <JosiahOne> That was a fast ping timeout.
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2162. # [15:45] <yzen> Yoric: thanks!. do you think this can be testable in some manner ?
2163. # [15:45] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, I was
2164. # [15:45] <Yoric> yzen: I can think of one way.
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2166. # [15:45] <Yoric> yzen: Well, vaguely.
2167. # [15:45] <Yoric> Mmmh...
2168. # [15:45] <Yoric> But this would possibly complicate the code a little too much.
2169. # [15:46] <Yoric> Here's the idea, tell me what you think about it.
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2174. # [15:46] <Yoric> We currently have a DEBUG flag, we could also have TESTING or something such, which would redirect LOG to a file.
2175. # [15:46] <Yoric> But that's probably not a very good idea, actually.
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2177. # [15:48] <yzen> Yoric: so you know how OS.Shared.LOG uses local LOG function that defers to console.log or dump, perhaps in that TESTING mode we could defer to console service that we can listen to ?
2178. # [15:48] <glandium> Yoric: are you aware of NSPR_LOG_FILE ?
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2180. # [15:49] <Yoric> glandium: Not the same LOG.
2181. # [15:49] <Yoric> glandium: That's JS code.
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2184. # [15:49] <KaiRo> gcp: I usually don't respond to a "it would be nice to have correlations" in a bug comment. that said, I might just dismiss a needinfo on that as well. all the correlation data I have access to is public, I better tell you how to find it than waste a lot of time every day to search for it when I'm pretty short on time anyhow
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2186. # [15:49] <Yoric> yzen: Sounds better than what I wrote.
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2190. # [15:51] * KaiRo doesn't have "look up public crash data that others don't bother to look up" in his job description
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2192. # [15:51] <gcp> KaiRo: yes, is there a wiki or smth?
2193. # [15:51] <JosiahOne> KaiRo: Lol.
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2197. # [15:53] <KaiRo> gcp: not sure - bascially, correlations should be displayed in the crash-stats pages of that respective signature
2198. # [15:53] <yzen> Yoric: alright, ill try to make a patch to get your feedback then
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2200. # [15:55] <KaiRo> gcp: if they don't load there, then it's running into a nasty bug of crash-stats (that should be fixed in the next weeks/months when the new crash-stats UI can go public), and you need to go into today's dated directory of https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/crash_analysis/ and look for that signature in the respective Firefox-*-interesting-* files
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2202. # [15:55] <gcp> KaiRo: ok, but this is only for topcrashes, if I get it right
2203. # [15:56] <gcp> oh, it's not
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2212. # [15:59] <KaiRo> gcp: no, I don't know the logic by heart that determines to generate that stuff, it's a script that dbaron wrote ages ago, and crash-stats is trying to cut the respective parts out of the huge text files via some XHR-ed PHP calls, which fails way too often, unfortunately - I see that both "more reports at" links at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=821992#c0 lead to such failures on the correlations tabs, so you need to d
2213. # [15:59] <KaiRo> ig into those text files on crash-analysis manually
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2215. # [16:00] <gcp> Yeah, I just did that with the help of your link.
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2217. # [16:00] * KaiRo hopes that new crash-stats UI can go public rather soon, as it has the first steps of fixing a lot of this
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2223. # [16:01] <KaiRo> gcp: and sorry if I sound grumpy, but I get like that after 2.5h of just wading through unread email
2224. # [16:02] <JosiahOne> Does anyone know if Markus Stange ever goes on irc?
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2226. # [16:03] <Ms2ger> !seen mstange
2227. # [16:03] <firebot> mstange was last seen 73 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 59 minutes and 51 seconds ago,
2228. # [16:03] <JosiahOne> Yikes.
2229. # [16:03] <JosiahOne> Guess not.
2230. # [16:04] <gcp> KaiRo: you helped me
2231. # [16:04] <gcp> KaiRo: telling me where to find this myself (and that its not automated) was enough :)
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2235. # [16:06] <JosiahOne> I wonder what happened to Markus? He seems to be quite inactive lately. (And unfortunately did not finish a bug that contains like 20 patches)
2236. # [16:06] <KaiRo> gcp: good. I still think teaching more people how to find stuff theirself is the best course in most cases :)
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2239. # [16:08] <glandium> KaiRo: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
2240. # [16:09] <JosiahOne> glandium: So true.
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2242. # [16:09] <@bz> Give a man a troll and he is unsure what to do with it.
2243. # [16:09] <@bz> Teach a man to troll and ....
2244. # [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9523a36fc918 - Jacek Caban - Bug 831707 - Use -static-libgcc and -static-libstdc++ on mingw r=glandium
2245. # [16:09] <@bz> See, maybe the pattern only works for "fish"
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2247. # [16:10] <gaston> Yoric: so you're on a crusade to rewrite the session manager ? whoa.
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2250. # [16:10] <JosiahOne> bz: Lol.
2251. # [16:10] <Yoric> gaston: At the moment, ttaubert, felipe, rnewman and myself are one a crusade to at least determine what needs to be done.
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2253. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> bz, and he can live off public-html?
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2255. # [16:11] <Yoric> (although I'm not a big fan of word "crusade" :))
2256. # [16:11] <JosiahOne> If you teach a man to troll, then he trolls forever… Everywhere.
2257. # [16:12] <Yoric> :)
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2259. # [16:12] <@bz> Ms2ger: mmm
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2264. # [16:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c808fa0206ac - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 321958 - Remove dead code nsIPluginTagInfo.getTagText, r=josh
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2297. # [16:34] <darkowlzz> is the 80-character rule also applicable to js files?
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2304. # [16:35] <mikeratcliffe> bug 833808
2305. # [16:36] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: don't quote me on this, but I thought js was 99?
2306. # [16:36] <RyanVM> (or was that layout)
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2309. # [16:37] <@bz> js is 99
2310. # [16:37] <darkowlzz> RyanVM: okay, thanks
2311. # [16:37] <@bz> layout is 80
2312. # [16:37] <darkowlzz> :)
2313. # [16:37] <darkowlzz> bz: thank you too :D
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2315. # [16:38] <RyanVM> bz: thanks :)
2316. # [16:38] <@ted> by "js" did you mean "javascript source", or "the C++ code in js/src"
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2318. # [16:39] <jlebar> smaug: Looks like you were right on with the observer-service leak suggestion. Good call.
2319. # [16:39] <glandium> ted: c++ code in js/src
2320. # [16:39] <@smaug> jlebar: I'm talking to you in #content :)
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2326. # [16:43] <@bz> ted: the latter
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2330. # [16:45] <@ted> glandium, bz: right, i just wondered what the original question meant
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2332. # [16:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f11a8adb9a77 - Brian Hackett - Bug 832578 - Tweaks to improve compilation of element accesses, r=dvander.
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2356. # [17:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a48352004a2 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 568953 - Fix for module object; r=benjamin
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2387. # [17:12] <darkowlzz> Can anyone help me with this http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2080836 ? I am getting error in console: SyntaxError: missing : after property id
2388. # [17:13] <darkowlzz> Timestamp: Wednesday 23 January 2013 09:36:18 IST
2389. # [17:13] <darkowlzz> Error: SyntaxError: missing : after property id
2390. # [17:13] <darkowlzz> Source File: about:plugins
2391. # [17:13] <darkowlzz> Line: 154, Column: 12
2392. # [17:13] <darkowlzz> Source Code:
2393. # [17:13] <darkowlzz> Ci.nsIBlocklistService.STATE_SOFTBLOCKED: "STATE_SOFTBLOCKED",
2394. # [17:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/44ad9c166d46 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for fennec 19.0b3 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
2395. # [17:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/46ea8d542991 - ffxbld - Added FENNEC_19_0b3_RELEASE FENNEC_19_0b3_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 44ad9c166d46. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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2400. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> Ci.nsIBlocklistService.STATE_SOFTBLOCKED: "STATE_SOFTBLOCKED",Timestamp: Wednesday 23 January 2013 09:36:18 IST
2401. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> Error: SyntaxError: missing : after property id
2402. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> Source File: about:plugins
2403. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> Line: 154, Column: 12
2404. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> Source Code:
2405. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> Ci.nsIBlocklistService.STATE_SOFTBLOCKED: "STATE_SOFTBLOCKED",
2406. # [17:14] <darkowlzz> oops!
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2413. # [17:19] <darkowlzz> Can anyone help me with this http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2080836 ? what's wrong in this?
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2419. # [17:24] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: What source file is this?
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2428. # [17:27] <whimboo> smaug: 67697 objects for the jenkins page
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2430. # [17:27] <whimboo> smaug: and 57560 garbage...
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2433. # [17:28] <@smaug> whimboo: jenkins opens lots of windows right?
2434. # [17:28] <whimboo> smaug: not sure what it does actually. but we don't get new windows
2435. # [17:29] <@smaug> ah, hmm
2436. # [17:29] <@smaug> then perhaps a different bug
2437. # [17:29] <whimboo> yes
2438. # [17:29] <whimboo> anyway I marked it dependent
2439. # [17:29] <@smaug> ok. but really, addonSDK devs need to look at the problem
2440. # [17:29] <whimboo> smaug: something interesting for you... you might also test with adblock plus which is also a restartless extension now
2441. # [17:29] <whimboo> i agree
2442. # [17:30] <@smaug> restartless doesn't mean it uses addonSDK, afaik
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2444. # [17:31] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne: hi, we are talking about it in #introduction
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2446. # [17:31] <@smaug> gerv: so which browserid I should use with bugzilla?
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2448. # [17:31] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Oh, never mind then.
2449. # [17:31] <whimboo> smaug: looks like you are right here. just checked and it's not using the addon sdk
2450. # [17:32] <gerv> smaug; the one which matches your Bugzilla account.
2451. # [17:32] <@smaug> hmm, I don't have such
2452. # [17:32] <gerv> Otherwise, you'll be logging in to a new Bugzilla account created for your new ID.
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2455. # [17:32] <gerv> You mean, the email address you have as your Bugzilla account is not set up as an email address in your Persona account?
2456. # [17:32] <@smaug> right
2457. # [17:32] <gerv> If so, you can't use Persona to log in, because Persona doesn't know you are the owner of that email address.
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2459. # [17:32] <@smaug> I have two browserIDs
2460. # [17:33] <glob> you can add multiple email addresses to the same persona account
2461. # [17:33] <@smaug> but neither one uses the bugmail address
2462. # [17:33] <@smaug> glob: oh
2463. # [17:33] <@smaug> I wonder how
2464. # [17:33] <glob> i have 4
2465. # [17:33] <Callek> smaug: also, if your bmo account is tied to a sec group, you can't use persona to login for it, even if itw as tied
2466. # [17:33] <glob> smaug, i clicked on 'add another email address' in the login screen
2467. # [17:33] <gerv> Callek: yes, you can.
2468. # [17:33] <glob> Callek, that's the old story ;)
2469. # [17:33] <Callek> gerv: since when?
2470. # [17:33] <@smaug> Callek: see gerv's email
2471. # [17:33] <gerv> Since today.
2472. # [17:33] <gerv> http://blog.gerv.net/2013/01/persona-on-bugzilla-mozilla-org/
2473. # [17:33] <@smaug> that is why I asked gerv
2474. # [17:34] * Callek backs away slowly then
2475. # [17:34] <gaston> do we have numbers on how many persona accounts were created so far ?
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2479. # [17:35] <glob> gaston, no, once they are created they look identical to other accounts bugzilla accounts
2480. # [17:35] <gaston> oh i meant generally, not specifically wrt bugzilla
2481. # [17:35] <Callek> glob: gerv: for what its worth, my primary persona account is Callek@gmail.com I'm happy to login to persona with that and then tie bugspam to it, *but* I don't want my generic name getting an account created
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2484. # [17:36] <Callek> glob: so as workaround theory, would disabling an account like that prevent it from getting autocompleted in forms?
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2486. # [17:36] <glob> Callek, or don't log in with that account
2487. # [17:37] <gerv> gaston: you'd need to ask the Persona team.
2488. # [17:37] * jcranmer|away is now known as jcranmer
2489. # [17:37] <gerv> But remember, Persona is decentralized,
2490. # [17:37] <Callek> glob: the problem is, Persona allows you to tie multiple logins to one login, I do that for official team etherpad
2491. # [17:37] <gerv> so they can tell you how many accounts are on the 2ndary shim provider we run,
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2493. # [17:37] <Callek> but you have to first [try] login as the primary to access the secondary
2494. # [17:37] <gerv> but if people are logging in because their email provider supports Persona properly,
2495. # [17:37] <gerv> we never hear about it.
2496. # [17:37] <glob> Callek, bugzilla only sees the one you selected on the login window
2497. # [17:37] <gerv> Actually, that's not right.
2498. # [17:37] <gerv> Their browser also needs to support it, I think.
2499. # [17:37] <gerv> But anyway, yay for privacy.
2500. # [17:37] <gaston> gerv: yeah i know how it works, i was just wondering how many were using the provider mozilla runs
2501. # [17:38] <gerv> Ask the Persona team.
2502. # [17:38] <Callek> glob: yea, I login, as primary, it fails (for work etherpad) then I login again, and since I'm already in persona it offers me my other accounts, I choose my @mozilla.com one
2503. # [17:38] <gerv> Callek: get a BrowserID login screen up, click "Add a new email address", follow the process.
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2505. # [17:38] <Callek> gerv: thats what I'm talking about, I want only one main persona login, but to be able to select the multiple e-mails
2506. # [17:38] <Callek> I'm able to with all other mozilla properties I use
2507. # [17:38] <Callek> such as etherpad
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2509. # [17:39] <gerv> I'm not sure I understand you.
2510. # [17:39] <mcsmurf> hi, someone happens to know on which server/channel Safari developers hang around?
2511. # [17:39] <glob> nor do i
2512. # [17:39] <gerv> What do you mean by "I want only one main persona login".
2513. # [17:39] <gerv> You have one persona account.
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2515. # [17:39] <gerv> That's definitely true.
2516. # [17:39] <gerv> it has multiple email addresses associated with it.
2517. # [17:39] <gerv> Whenever you log in somewhere, you pick the one you want.
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2519. # [17:39] * Standard8 does a little experimentation
2520. # [17:39] * Callek moves to #bteam
2521. # [17:39] <gerv> In the case of Bugzilla, Callek+bugspam.
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2524. # [17:40] <mcsmurf> hm, #webkit I guess then
2525. # [17:40] * NeilAway wonders whether darkowlzz got his answer yet
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2529. # [17:43] <darkowlzz> NeilAway: discussed in #introduction
2530. # [17:43] <darkowlzz> :)
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2538. # [17:44] <darkowlzz> jdm: it isn't working
2539. # [17:45] <darkowlzz> whoops!
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2542. # [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/363a34802aef - Jonathan Kew - bug 833297 - reftest for preserving clusters across font-shaping boundary with graphite. r=jdaggett
2543. # [17:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/011d0b0befdc - Jonathan Kew - bug 833297 - ensure graphite shaper does not overwrite cluster information. r=jdaggett
2544. # [17:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4da2cd42a969 - Jonathan Kew - bug 833283 - remove the option to bypass OTS for downloaded fonts. r=jdaggett
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2550. # [17:48] * @bz is starting to develop an allergic reaction to the word "polyglot"
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2554. # [17:50] <jfkthame> bz: ?
2555. # [17:50] <JosiahOne> bz: Aren't you polygot?
2556. # [17:50] <@smaug> sounds almost as bad as polyfill
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2558. # [17:51] <JosiahOne> smaug: But not at all. I don't even know how you could be on this channel and not be polygot.
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2560. # [17:51] * JosiahOne Probably just accidentally offended someone… :)
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2562. # [17:52] <JosiahOne> (though highly unlikely)
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2564. # [17:52] <@bz> jfkthame: public-html
2565. # [17:52] <jfkthame> ah, not something i try to keep up with
2566. # [17:53] <@bz> jfkthame: You probably don't want to know.
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2568. # [17:53] <jfkthame> that's very likely true
2569. # [17:53] <jfkthame> but doesn't prevent a certain morbid curiosity...
2570. # [17:54] <JosiahOne> jfkthame: http://coders-view.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-is-public-html.html
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2574. # [17:54] <@bz> jfkthame: Discussion about a spec for a subset of HTML that can safely be interpreted as both XHTML and HTML
2575. # [17:54] <jfkthame> JosiahOne: err, i don't think that's relevant to what bz is referring to
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2577. # [17:54] <@bz> jfkthame: and whether there should be a Rec or a Note
2578. # [17:54] <JosiahOne> Yeah, I just realized that...
2579. # [17:54] <JosiahOne> :(
2580. # [17:54] <@bz> jfkthame: and whethere there should be such a thing at all
2581. # [17:55] <@bz> jfkthame: And what counts as an implementation.
2582. # [17:55] * JosiahOne Will now go cry in the corner.
2583. # [17:55] <@bz> jfkthame: and politics, personalities, etc, etc.
2584. # [17:55] <jfkthame> bz: sounds pretty depressing
2585. # [17:55] * jfkthame is glad to stay out of spec issues, almost all the time
2586. # [17:56] <@bz> jfkthame: this isn't even a spec issue. It's a political issue.
2587. # [17:56] <@bz> jfkthame: or a DoS attack on people, depending on how you view it. ;)
2588. # [17:56] * JosiahOne Agrees with jfkthame.
2589. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> bz, it's even more fun when people cc you...
2590. # [17:56] <jfkthame> haha
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2604. # [18:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/454569027d3a - Justin Lebar - Bug 833796 - Remove a shutdown observer in forms.js to fix a leak. r=vingtetun
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2609. # [18:04] <jdm> who wants to message me the password to bsmedberg's status thing?
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2612. # [18:05] <JosiahOne> jdm: status thing? Descriptive.
2613. # [18:05] <jcranmer> bz: so polyglot is basically a polybikeshed?
2614. # [18:05] <jdm> JosiahOne: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/
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2616. # [18:06] <JosiahOne> jdm: Ah, so not me. :)
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2620. # [18:06] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: polybikeshed? At least polyglot is a real word. :)
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2628. # [18:08] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, so bug 831421
2629. # [18:09] * jcranmer sighs
2630. # [18:09] <NeilAway> smaug: since I've never seen a content process, you'll have to explain to me how the event handling is handled
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2632. # [18:09] <@smaug> fun
2633. # [18:09] <jcranmer> so where am I supposed to hide my technical posts so that only people who actually comprehend technical details are going to be reading them?
2634. # [18:09] <NeilAway> smaug: so, we have these global handlers in both processes?
2635. # [18:09] <@smaug> NeilAway: I knew it would be hard to find anyone to review that patch
2636. # [18:09] <@smaug> NeilAway: yes
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2640. # [18:09] <NeilAway> smaug: and they fire first in which process?
2641. # [18:10] <@smaug> parent
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2644. # [18:10] * NeilAway was afraid of that
2645. # [18:10] <@smaug> ESM then sends non-defaultPrevented key events to child
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2648. # [18:10] <@smaug> afraid?
2649. # [18:11] <@smaug> well, key events need to go through parent process
2650. # [18:11] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: Were you implying something?
2651. # [18:11] <@smaug> of course we could forward all the events to child before handling in parent
2652. # [18:11] <@smaug> NeilAway: but that just isn't what we do now
2653. # [18:11] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: no, I'm grousing about unrelated things
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2655. # [18:11] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, polybikeshed is a very nice description :)
2656. # [18:12] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: Oh, I understand that. But it's lunch time for myself. So adios.
2657. # [18:12] * JosiahOne Is going to use polybikeshed in the future...
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2659. # [18:13] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
2660. # [18:13] <jdm> ehsan: pong
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2663. # [18:13] <@ehsan> jdm: so, reading https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829360#c30 I realized that I had not seen the hack patch yesterday
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2665. # [18:14] <jdm> heh
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2667. # [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6501ad647c04 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 828466 - Remove some ParseNode morphing. Part 3, ParseNode::append. r=Waldo.
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2669. # [18:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc14e5835254 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 828466 - Remove some ParseNode morphing. Part 1, FoldConstants. r=Waldo.
2670. # [18:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f36ab43c5b1e - Jason Orendorff - Bug 828466 - Remove some ParseNode morphing. Part 2, empty statements. r=Waldo with apparently successful fuzz-testing.
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2672. # [18:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfa7dddb2f80 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 790629 - Fix the value of this in generator-expressions. r=Waldo.
2673. # [18:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80a296c7766c - Jason Orendorff - Bug 825699 - jsapi-tests: Silence two bogus error reports to stderr. r=Waldo.
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2675. # [18:15] <@ehsan> jdm: so are you still looking for making that notification work?
2676. # [18:15] <@ehsan> jdm: if not, perhaps you can rip out the test and add it to the test patch and ask for review?
2677. # [18:15] <jdm> ehsan: I spent a bit of time on it today, but I became confused when I never saw any further load events from the about:blank window
2678. # [18:16] <jdm> but yes, I can hold my nose and ask for review of the other one
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2681. # [18:16] <@ehsan> jdm: unfortunately I can't seem to remember what I was debugging when I hit that chrome-document-global-created notification
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2684. # [18:16] <jdm> ehsan: I mean, from my testing, I always get the notification for the proper xul windows
2685. # [18:17] <jdm> I haven't seen any problems, just extra notifications
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2687. # [18:18] <@ehsan> jdm: from my vague memory which could be mistaken, I couldn't work around the bug any way that I tried
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2689. # [18:18] <@ehsan> jdm: and the fact that we can't even seem to reproduce it makes me very hesitant to take your other patch :(
2690. # [18:18] <@ehsan> since we _know_ we'll be missing out some edge cases
2691. # [18:18] <@ehsan> we just don't know what they are...
2692. # [18:19] <jdm> yeah, that's fair
2693. # [18:19] <mconnor> ehsan: are the edge cases worse than what we have now?
2694. # [18:19] <jdm> I'll file a follow-up bug and make it depend on the open ones
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2696. # [18:19] <@ehsan> mconnor: problem is, I don't remember, but I do remember that I was debugging this for _some_ reason
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2698. # [18:19] <@ehsan> so all I can say is that they do come up in practice
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2700. # [18:20] <@ehsan> jdm: what would the follow-up bug say?
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2702. # [18:20] <jdm> ehsan: get rid of this ugliness when we can use chrome-global-blah-blah
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2705. # [18:21] <@ehsan> jdm: oh ok
2706. # [18:21] <@ehsan> jdm: make that depend on the other bug
2707. # [18:21] <jdm> right
2708. # [18:21] <@ehsan> the one on which I have a patch
2709. # [18:21] <@ehsan> thanks
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2711. # [18:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7811eb057627 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 819953 - Continue to process queue on thumbnail capturing failures. r=kats
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2716. # [18:26] <@smaug> NeilAway: I don't understand the latter comment
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2718. # [18:27] <KaiRo> dvander: any ETA when you'll land bug 831626? I'd be very interested to see if it solves those topcrashers... ;-)
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2722. # [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7b55316545e - John Daggett - Bug 833624. Bump up size of int's in mOrder to allow more than 256 CSS properties. r=dbaron
2723. # [18:29] <@dbaron> nattokirai, thanks for landing that :-)
2724. # [18:29] <nattokirai> dbaron: np
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2734. # [18:33] <firebot> Check-in:
2735. # [18:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baf15939cf45 - Justin Lebar - Bug 832752 - On ARM, compile pixman without -mapcs-frame, even if that's specified in CFLAGS, since this calling convention appears to break the routines written in
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2749. # [18:40] <@bsmedberg> Does anyone recognize a build error "Cannont open include file: `LifoAlloc.h` from SplayTree.h ?
2750. # [18:41] <@bsmedberg> when building in layout/style (AnimationCommon.cpp)
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2752. # [18:42] <khuey> did you not rebuild js or something?
2753. # [18:42] <@bsmedberg> clean build
2754. # [18:42] <khuey> also why are we including js headers in layout/style? :-(
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2763. # [18:47] <NeilAway> smaug: see EnsureHandlers
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2765. # [18:47] <@bsmedberg> ted: when building with pymake, is the C++ compiler stderr redirected somewhere?
2766. # [18:48] <@smaug> NeilAway: problem is that GetElement may return null if the element is just gone
2767. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> oh
2768. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> cl.py *already* uses showincludes
2769. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> but it gets sucked off somewhere
2770. # [18:49] <mccr8> bsmedberg: it looks to me that LifoAlloc.h needs to be added to mfbt/exported_headers.mk
2771. # [18:49] <@bsmedberg> I still don't understand why I see this error and nobody else does...
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2773. # [18:49] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, you could use mWeakPtrForElement Iguess
2774. # [18:50] <@smaug> hmm, ok, I could do that
2775. # [18:50] <@bsmedberg> mccr8: even though lifoAlloc is in js/src/ds ?
2776. # [18:50] <mccr8> bsmedberg: well, the layout code that uses the splaytree was only added yesterday evening
2777. # [18:50] <@smaug> tiny but ugly, but what isn't in that code
2778. # [18:50] <mccr8> bsmedberg: well, that's where splaytree is too
2779. # [18:51] <@bsmedberg> I thought mfbt was header-only
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2781. # [18:51] <@bsmedberg> but those structures come with .cpp files
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2783. # [18:51] <mccr8> I don't know.
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2785. # [18:52] <@bsmedberg> oh wait
2786. # [18:52] <mccr8> oh odd, there is js/src/ds/SplayTree and mfbt/SplayTree
2787. # [18:52] <@bsmedberg> there are two SplayTree.h files
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2789. # [18:53] <mccr8> yeah the mfbt one doesn't have anything about lifoalloc
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2791. # [18:53] <@bsmedberg> the one in dist/include/mozilla is the js one
2792. # [18:54] <mccr8> that seems bad...
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2794. # [18:55] <mccr8> bsmedberg: looks like the mfbt one was added in bug 822906, which is the same thing that landed yesterday evening
2795. # [18:55] <@bsmedberg> because in js/src/Makefile.in, ds is in the VPATH
2796. # [18:57] <@smaug> NeilAway: better?
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2804. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9864e375b6f - Lucas Rocha - Bug 732902 - Set list of search engines in one step (r=mfinkle)
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2807. # [18:59] <JosiahOne> spohl: Ping?
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2809. # [19:00] <spohl> JosiahOne: pong
2810. # [19:01] <JosiahOne> In positionBox you use this:
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2812. # [19:01] <JosiahOne> aBox.style.MozTransform = "translateX(" + width * aPosition + "px)";
2813. # [19:01] <JosiahOne> What is the value when the box is completely off screen?
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2816. # [19:02] <JosiahOne> Essentially, when all those elements add up/multiply.
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2820. # [19:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7ffc20b4545 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 781570 - Part 1/2 - Implement .valueAsNumber for <input type='time'>. r=smaug
2821. # [19:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c62ff59f9c54 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 781570 - Part 2/2 - Implement .valueAsDate for <input type='time'>. r=smaug
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2823. # [19:02] <JosiahOne> spohl: ^
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2829. # [19:04] <spohl> JosiahOne: it will be equal to width
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2831. # [19:04] <spohl> JosiahOne: −1 <= aPosition <= 1 are the possible values
2832. # [19:04] <JosiahOne> spohl: Alright.
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2847. # [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b6d8e1061da - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 833447 - nsDOMBlobBuilder.cpp:284:8: warning: variable ‘nativeEOL’ set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable], r=khuey
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2849. # [19:09] <khuey> bsmedberg: wow that's awesome
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2868. # [19:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c5ab9bc4a5d - Jared Wein - Bug 831020 - Errors in the error console with very long reference lines hang the browser. r=neil
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2871. # [19:16] <dholbert> jaws++
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2873. # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> khuey: patch up for you :-(
2874. # [19:20] <khuey> have I mentioned that VPATH abuse is evil
2875. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> I believe you have
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2877. # [19:21] <@bsmedberg> hey, VPATH *use* is evil
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2879. # [19:21] <khuey> heh
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2882. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> Make use is evil? :)
2883. # [19:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef03bfa48a45 - Gregor Wagner - Backout bug 793204. r=me
2884. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> enh, make use is unfortunate
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2886. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> pymake -j12
2887. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> oops
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2889. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> ./mach build
2890. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> nope, I don't use mozconfigs
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2892. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> What do you use?
2893. # [19:23] <@bsmedberg> configure and make
2894. # [19:23] <@bsmedberg> I keep 2-4 objdirs per source tree
2895. # [19:23] <@bsmedberg> and doing that with mozconfigs is kinda annoying, so I don't
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2898. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> If "./mach build debug", say, worked, would you consider it?
2899. # [19:24] <jaws> dholbert: thanks!
2900. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> maybe if ./mach build ../ff-debug --enable-debug --enable-valgrind worked...
2901. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> or something like that
2902. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> Mm
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2904. # [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/99dabf8d5e98 - Gregor Wagner - Backout Bug 793204 for installation failures. r=me
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2907. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> Do you usually reuse objdirs with the same config?
2908. # [19:26] <@bsmedberg> could you rephrase the question?
2909. # [19:26] <gfritzsche> jaws: doesn't the test on bug 744745 cover the opacity override? or are you thinking of other ways?
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2911. # [19:26] <@bsmedberg> typically, "../ff-debug" is --enable-debug --disable-optimize and "../ff-release" is straight up
2912. # [19:27] <@bsmedberg> then there's ../ff-valgrind and if I can get it work, ../ff-asan
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2914. # [19:27] <@bsmedberg> ../ff-branded for a fully branded release build, but I don't do that much
2915. # [19:27] <Ms2ger> What I'm getting at, would one objdir always have the same options?
2916. # [19:27] <@bsmedberg> yes
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2922. # [19:29] <nmatsakis> anybody know how to modify emacs so that clicking in a buffer does not alter the point?
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2924. # [19:29] <Ms2ger> Use vim
2925. # [19:29] * Ms2ger ducks
2926. # [19:29] <nmatsakis> I just want it to move the cursor
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2929. # [19:30] * nmatsakis throws whatever is near at hand at Ms2ger
2930. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> Oh, cookies! Thanks!
2931. # [19:30] <JosiahOne> Lol.
2932. # [19:30] <jhammel> unfortunately, those cookies have expired
2933. # [19:30] * Ms2ger throws them at jhammel
2934. # [19:31] <jhammel> heh, i lied, thanks for the cookies!
2935. # [19:31] <JosiahOne> Children, children, let's settle down. It's just vim...
2936. # [19:31] * JosiahOne Something he would never use.
2937. # [19:31] <Ms2ger> jhammel, I knew it!
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2940. # [19:31] <JosiahOne> Ohh, that was clever. :)
2941. # [19:32] <Ms2ger> That's exactly the kind of guy he is
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2943. # [19:32] <JosiahOne> Good for him. Most of the time.
2944. # [19:33] * Ms2ger doesn't mention he spit on those cookies first
2945. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> *spat, I guess
2946. # [19:33] <JosiahOne> Hehe.
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2954. # [19:35] <JosiahOne> Man, now I want cookies. Curse you Ms2ger! :)
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2956. # [19:36] <jaws> gfritzsche: let me look again
2957. # [19:36] * jhammel gives JosiahOne his cookies
2958. # [19:37] <jhammel> JosiahOne: they're spit-flavored for extra goodness
2959. # [19:37] <JosiahOne> jhammel: I'll pass on those. Thanks though!
2960. # [19:37] <JosiahOne> Someone else might want them.
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2974. # [19:40] <@ehsan> jimm: ping
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2983. # [19:44] <@ted> ehsan: i worry that the only long-term solution to the PGO problem is "disable PGO"
2984. # [19:44] <@ted> unless Microsoft has changed their stance and decided to ship a 64-bit linker that can do 32-bit codegen
2985. # [19:45] <@ehsan> ted: that _could_ be the case, but we need thorough investigation before we make that decision
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2987. # [19:45] <@ehsan> ted: that has not happened to the best of my knowledge :(
2988. # [19:45] <mshal> how significant is the PGO boost?
2989. # [19:45] <@ted> depends, but up to 25% on some benchmarks
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2991. # [19:45] <jaws> gfritzsche: i'm just trying to make sense of this, http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#cascading-order
2992. # [19:46] <mshal> ahh, that's pretty nice
2993. # [19:46] <@ted> yeah, for just being some compiler flags
2994. # [19:46] <@ehsan> we'll need better numbers there as well
2995. # [19:46] <jaws> gfritzsche: i don't see any mention in that precedence order about user agent important declarations
2996. # [19:46] * @ehsan was just about to file a bug on that
2997. # [19:46] <@ted> unfortunately it makes the codegen memory-hungry
2998. # [19:47] <@ted> and microsoft doesn't ship a 64-bit binary that can generate x86, so you're stuck with only 4GB of address space
2999. # [19:47] <@ted> ehsan: didn't dmandelin do some benchmarking recently?
3000. # [19:47] <@ted> ehsan: should be pretty easy, we do talos runs of PGO and non-PGO all the time
3001. # [19:47] <@ted> since we build both
3002. # [19:47] <@ehsan> ted: I've heard that rumor :)
3003. # [19:47] <@ehsan> not sure if it's true or not :)
3004. # [19:47] <mshal> so you can still have PGO in a 64-bit build, but for 32-bit you have to only run it on part of the code-base?
3005. # [19:47] <@ted> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/a1ua8-Y29ls/WwxLeaOmo9sJ
3006. # [19:47] <gfritzsche> jaws: oh, i see
3007. # [19:48] <@ted> mshal: well, that's what we're doing now, effectively
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3009. # [19:48] <@ted> we've disabled PGO on some bits of the codebase, and shoved some other bits into a separate DLL
3010. # [19:48] <@ted> but we're going to run out of ways to do that eventually
3011. # [19:48] <mshal> yeah, I saw that in the email thread - I thought it was global though, not just 32-bit
3012. # [19:48] <@ted> we keep adding code
3013. # [19:48] <mshal> nod
3014. # [19:49] <@ted> mshal: we wouldn't have this problem on 64-bit, because the address space is so much larger
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3016. # [19:49] <@ted> although AIUI the 64-bit compiler is buggy
3017. # [19:49] <@ted> so we have to link with the 32-bit one anyway or something
3018. # [19:49] <mshal> oh, fun :)
3019. # [19:49] <@smaug> odd. I got (Secure) bugmail about a bug I'm not authorized to access
3020. # [19:49] <@ehsan> ted: see bug 833890
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3026. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52d942866e4e - Jeff Hammel - Bug 830996 - implement a way to DRY mozbase packages for m-c;r=wlach ; DONTBUILD because NPOTB
3027. # [19:52] <mbrubeck> smaug: Maybe you got un-CC'ed from the bug after that message.
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3031. # [19:53] <@ted> f bugzilla
3032. # [19:53] <@ted> h8 mid-air
3033. # [19:53] <@smaug> maybe. or perhaps it was first marked to be security sensitive but moved then to some other group
3034. # [19:53] <@ted> just trying to CC myself
3035. # [19:54] <jhammel> ted++
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3037. # [19:54] <lizzard> ted: I'm sure bugzilla fs you too :D
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3039. # [19:54] <jhammel> i understand why we do midairs the way we do. that said...i disagree with it
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3042. # [19:55] <@ted> lizzard: on a daily basis, yes
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3046. # [19:56] <@ehsan> ted: I almost resisted trolling you for that ;)(
3047. # [19:56] <@ted> heh
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3050. # [19:56] <@ted> i usually click through the midair warning without thinking
3051. # [19:57] <jhammel> likewise
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3055. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20df9d2e6138 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 826135 - Throw if --utility-path points to ARM version of xpcshell, r=ahal
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3080. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> khuey++
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3083. # [20:12] <WeirdAl> I forgot what whiteboard line to use to ask for a tryserver run :)
3084. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> That's broken, I think
3085. # [20:13] <jhammel> yep
3086. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> Want me to push the layout/xul patch?
3087. # [20:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99dabf8d5e98 - Gregor Wagner - Backout Bug 793204 for installation failures. r=me
3088. # [20:13] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger: to try, yes
3089. # [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d108d31601d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
3090. # [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06d0d20fbaf1 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 825379 - IonMonkey: Differential Testing: Getting different output w/without --ion-eager with forEach. r=dvander
3091. # [20:14] * JosiahOne Wonders if Ms2ger could get an entire job running try servers for people. :)
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3093. # [20:14] <khuey> Ms2ger: hmm?
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3095. # [20:14] <Ms2ger> The locking LinkedList thing
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3099. # [20:15] <joduinn-mtg> ehsan: ping?
3100. # [20:15] <@ehsan> joduinn-mtg: hi
3101. # [20:16] <joduinn-mtg> hey, got mixed messages just now, so sanity checking with you directly.
3102. # [20:16] <khuey> ah, yes
3103. # [20:16] <joduinn-mtg> 833884
3104. # [20:16] <joduinn-mtg> are *you* doing the eval or are you finding another dev to do the eval?
3105. # [20:16] <joduinn-mtg> i ask because we need to grant buildvpn access to whomever is the person.
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3108. # [20:17] <@ehsan> joduinn-mtg: I'm not. I thought that's something that releng should do, but armenzg told me that it's something that a dev can do
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3111. # [20:17] <@ehsan> joduinn-mtg: and I currently have no candidates
3112. # [20:17] <@ehsan> joduinn-mtg: which is not great
3113. # [20:17] <@ted> WeirdAl: seriously, file a bug to get Tier-1 access, i will vouch for you
3114. # [20:17] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8a92049aad8e
3115. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d415e17d781e - Chris Peterson - Bug 816298 - Part 2: Replace references to -moz-user-select:-moz-none with -moz-user-select:none. r=ehsan r=enndeakin
3116. # [20:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4803bd24d5c - Chris Peterson - Bug 816298 - Part 1: Allow child elements to override -moz-user-select:none. r=ehsan
3117. # [20:18] <joduinn-mtg> ehsan: yeah, like i said yesterday, the fastest way to a solution is to have a dev who knows the compilers work on it.
3118. # [20:18] * joduinn-mtg cc'd jimm on the bug, in case he can help
3119. # [20:19] <@ehsan> joduinn-mtg: we don't have that person for now. I have CCed jimm and pinged him on irc as well to see if he's willing to volunteer
3120. # [20:19] <jimm> huh what?
3121. # [20:19] <@ehsan> oh hi!
3122. # [20:19] <@ehsan> jimm: see bug 833884
3123. # [20:19] <jimm> ok
3124. # [20:20] <@ehsan> jimm: we need somebody to install vs2012 update 1 on a builder
3125. # [20:20] <@ehsan> jimm: with the goal of measuring the linker vmem usage with that compiler on a PGO build
3126. # [20:20] <@ehsan> to see if we can look into a compiler upgrade as a way to mitigate the problem
3127. # [20:20] <@ehsan> jimm: do you think you can help out with that?
3128. # [20:20] <joduinn-mtg> ...for context, jim, the question is whether a) the new compiler would be better for PGO b) would get around the current PGO limit we hit recently and c) would work for all OS that we need to support?
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3132. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/97d15a5913e1 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833848 - Don't forget to localize crashreporter.ini and crashreporter-override.ini with the new packager. r=ted DONTBUILD
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3134. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9c8777d256c7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833886 - Attempt to unbreak comm-central after bug 780561. r=ted DONTBUILD
3135. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/98b7e46d372a - Patrick McManus - bug 796475 - proxy auth cancelation rendering fix r=jduell a=akeybl
3136. # [20:21] <jimm> hmm, I haven't looked at the update to see if it actually addresses the xp binary problem
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3139. # [20:22] <jimm> probably want to look at that first.
3140. # [20:22] <@ehsan> jimm: once we have a build, that would be very easy to test
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3142. # [20:22] <jcranmer> ehsan: ping
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3144. # [20:22] <jimm> ehsan: do you know what sdk you target when you target xp with vs 2012?
3145. # [20:22] <jimm> vs 2012 update 1
3146. # [20:22] <@ehsan> jcranmer: pong but very busy right now :(
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3148. # [20:23] <@ehsan> jimm: not really
3149. # [20:23] <jcranmer> ehsan: any reason why DXR builds are still marked as hidden on tbpl?
3150. # [20:23] <@ehsan> jimm: I would expect the win7 sdk though
3151. # [20:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff45a29c2072 - Asaf Romano - Bug 832949 - Disable common Organize options when the Downloads view is in use. r=mak.
3152. # [20:23] <@ehsan> jimm: I'm pretty sure that the win8 sdk is out of question
3153. # [20:23] <@ehsan> jcranmer: do they pass reliably?
3154. # [20:23] <jimm> ehsan: well we currently use the win8 sdk so.. :)
3155. # [20:24] <jcranmer> ehsan: I would hope so
3156. # [20:24] <jimm> we can investigate
3157. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, do they run on all integration branches and try?
3158. # [20:24] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: no, only mozilla-central
3159. # [20:24] <@ehsan> jcranmer: usually we hide all builds that either fail intermittently or the ones that we don't backout patches for if they break
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3161. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> Then you don't get to unhide them, sorry
3162. # [20:24] <@ehsan> jimm: you mean on m-c or on elm?
3163. # [20:24] <jimm> ehsan: what's the ergency level on bug 833884?
3164. # [20:24] <jimm> ehsan: all win builders
3165. # [20:24] <@ehsan> jimm: as urgent as things can get pretty much!
3166. # [20:25] <jcranmer> ehsan: ah; I had been under the impression that DXR was only hidden because it was permabusted
3167. # [20:25] <@ehsan> jimm: perhaps I'm getting the wording wrong. there's the sdk, and there's the runtime libs that the compiler targets
3168. # [20:25] <@ehsan> jimm: I don't remember what VC calls those...
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3170. # [20:25] <@ehsan> jimm: do you know what I'm talking about?
3171. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, they need to be not busted and not become busted without a sane regression range
3172. # [20:26] <@ehsan> jcranmer: no. we only unhide builds which we backout patches for if they break
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3174. # [20:26] <cpeterson> BenWa, ping?
3175. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, and a 200-changeset inbound merge isn't that :)
3176. # [20:26] <BenWa> cpeterson: Got meeting until 4:00 sorry
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3178. # [20:26] <jimm> ehsan: we still use the vc10 runtime
3179. # [20:26] <@ehsan> jcranmer: you can always append a noignore=1 to the url to see the hidden builds
3180. # [20:26] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: it's a visual indicator of whether or not dxr.mozilla.org is stale or not :-P
3181. # [20:26] <cpeterson> BenWa, np! :)
3182. # [20:26] <@ehsan> jimm: right, and I believe we should keep on doing that for xp compat with vc11 as well
3183. # [20:27] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, it's ever not stale? ;)
3184. # [20:27] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: it's updated once a day, barring m-c failing to build
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3186. # [20:27] <Ms2ger> I guess I should try using it at some point :)
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3193. # [20:30] <@ted> sewardj: ping
3194. # [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbf2b12080a5 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 831149 - Expose SpecialPowers to conent scripts via a lazy getter, r=philikon
3195. # [20:30] * jhammel is now known as jhammel|lunch
3196. # [20:30] <sewardj> ted: pong
3197. # [20:31] <@ted> sewardj: hey, finally getting to your patches
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3199. # [20:31] <sewardj> ted: cool, thanks
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3201. # [20:31] <@ted> i've been going over them just cleaning up style nits for google style
3202. # [20:31] <sewardj> ted: probably pretty dirty in that respect
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3204. # [20:31] <@ted> yeah, hard to know unless you've had the google style guide burned into your brain
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3206. # [20:31] <@ted> but reading your patch that adds Module::Expr, i think they're probably going to object to the mucking it does with postfixevaluator
3207. # [20:32] <@ted> given that the bits we've added are not actually related to evaluating postfix expressions
3208. # [20:32] <@ted> i'll submit it upstream as-is, but i wanted to have a fallback position if they object
3209. # [20:33] <sewardj> ted: ok .. as a fallback position I can probably saw off the changes the postfixevaluator
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3213. # [20:34] <@ted> okay
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3215. # [20:34] <@ted> i think that might have been my original proposal, but i'm fuzzy on the details now
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3218. # [20:34] <@ehsan> joduinn: sorry, did I say that I will work on bug 833884?!
3219. # [20:35] <@ehsan> jimm: are you doing the investigation you mentioned in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833884#c5?
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3221. # [20:35] <jimm> sure
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3224. # [20:36] <joduinn> ehsan: i ping'd you here in channel, because I got mixed messages in irc just a few mins ago - some say you were. some said not, but only after I updated the bug. hence my ping to confirm
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3227. # [20:37] <joduinn> if thats *not* you, thanks for answering my question.
3228. # [20:37] <@ehsan> joduinn: I said I'm *not*
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3230. # [20:37] <sewardj> ted: meh. It does make postfixevaluator cleaner and fast, but I understand the problem.
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3233. # [20:37] <joduinn> ...and if its now jimm who is investgiating, we'll adjust the work on our side
3234. # [20:37] * joduinn updates bug to match revised reality
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3236. # [20:38] <@ehsan> jimm: thanks a lot :)
3237. # [20:38] <sewardj> ted: do you want me to prepare a revised patch speculatively (now) or on demand (when they complain) ?
3238. # [20:38] <@ted> sewardj: yeah, probably just conceptual purity
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3240. # [20:38] <@ted> sewardj: i'll try to get this patch up today and hopefully we can get an answer right away
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3242. # [20:39] <sewardj> ted: great .. thanks.
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3245. # [20:40] <joduinn> jimm: just saw your comment#5. are you doing this eval on your local machine first to verify XP?
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3248. # [20:40] <jimm> yes I'd like to understand what's involved.
3249. # [20:40] <jimm> easy enough to get it set up and build to test on an xp image.
3250. # [20:40] <joduinn> jimm: would a loaner machine help you now, or do you want us to hold and wait until you have findings first?
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3255. # [20:41] <jimm> I don't need a loaner slave until we decide for sure we want to make the switch.
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3260. # [20:42] <joduinn> jimm: given the amount of attention the pgo problem has, I need to point people to a bug.
3261. # [20:43] <joduinn> do you want to file a new separate bug? or icould morph bug#833884 into a "jimm does eval" bug?
3262. # [20:43] <@ehsan> joduinn: can we please prepare the slave in the meantime to minimize the possible delay in case the xp compat is not a problem?
3263. # [20:44] <jimm> I was going to do it in bug 833887
3264. # [20:44] <@ehsan> joduinn: jimm can just comment there, no need to morph
3265. # [20:44] <joduinn> ehsan: thats in progress. I'm trying to make sure we have all the same written understanding of what is being done
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3267. # [20:44] <joduinn> confusion is one thing we dont have time for
3268. # [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c1b4639bd3b8 - Tim Lunn - Bug 829421 - Free ArgumentsData if JSObject allocation fails. r=nbp, a=akeybl
3269. # [20:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8b4f885a45dc - Dão Gottwald - Bug 813550 - Location bar's placeholder in an RTL chrome should be aligned on the right. r=ehsan, a=akeybl
3270. # [20:44] <@ehsan> joduinn: ok great
3271. # [20:44] <@ehsan> joduinn: I don't think there's any confusion at this point :)
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3273. # [20:45] <joduinn> not now. but there was when I first raised these questions 9mins ago in channel; glad resolved.
3274. # [20:45] <joduinn> now matching bugs to re-revised reality
3275. # [20:45] <joduinn> jimm doing eval of VS2012 in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833887
3276. # [20:46] <joduinn> releng will prep loaner machine for jimm in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833884
3277. # [20:46] <joduinn> (which requires buildvpn access for jimm in dep bugs)
3278. # [20:46] <joduinn> ehsan: jimm anything else?
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3281. # [20:47] <@ehsan> joduinn: not that I can think of right now
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3283. # [20:47] <@ehsan> joduinn: will let you know if something else comes up
3284. # [20:47] <jimm> don't believe so.
3285. # [20:47] <@ehsan> thanks!
3286. # [20:47] <joduinn> cool, thank you both.
3287. # [20:47] <joduinn> ...and best of luck, jimm
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3289. # [20:47] <jimm> I should already have buildvpn access from my work with armenzg on elm builders
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3291. # [20:48] <joduinn> jimm: yeah, we'll figure out as we cleanup the bugss
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3293. # [20:48] <nbp> RyanVM: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/d8040799b82a might cause build failure as js_free might not yet exists on older branches.
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3295. # [20:48] <nbp> RyanVM: as commented in the bug, we should replace them by original patch which is attached to the bug.
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3297. # [20:49] <nbp> RyanVM: Bug 829421
3298. # [20:49] <jimm> ehsan: how do we make that max vmem size measurement?
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3300. # [20:49] <@ted> jimm: with a python wrapper script
3301. # [20:49] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/link.py
3302. # [20:50] <@ehsan> yeah
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3305. # [20:50] <jimm> thx
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3308. # [20:50] <@ehsan> jimm: the bug that you're mentioning in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833887#c1, is it the xp compat bug?
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3312. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/052975d1fa4c - Kris Maglione - Bug 831805: Block malicious Mozilla Framework Assistant (em:creator is Mozilla.org). r=Mossop
3313. # [20:51] <jimm> ehsan: well that's the obvious one, but there's also bug 703135
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3315. # [20:52] <@ted> jimm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/win32/procmem.py#21
3316. # [20:52] <@ted> is the underlying Win32 API call
3317. # [20:52] <@ehsan> right
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3319. # [20:53] <@ehsan> jimm: that's not an issue for now, since we're not talking about switching until we know that the VC11 PGO compiler consumes considerably less memory than the VC10 one does
3320. # [20:53] <jimm> right, understood
3321. # [20:53] <@ehsan> so, all we need for now is to figure out the xp compat situation and be able to build :)
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3323. # [20:53] <@ehsan> jimm: please ping me if there's anything blocking you, and thanks a lot again!
3324. # [20:53] <jimm> presumably it will though, didn't we gain space with our vc10 switch?
3325. # [20:54] <jimm> sure
3326. # [20:54] <@ehsan> I have heard rumors about VC11 being less of a memory hog
3327. # [20:54] <RyanVM> nbp: whoops, sorry
3328. # [20:54] <@ehsan> so let's keep our fingers crossed :)
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3336. # [20:56] <WeirdAl> clang ftw :p
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3339. # [20:56] <naveed> jimb: ping
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3343. # [20:57] <RyanVM> nbp: done
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3345. # [20:57] <mccr8> anybody else having trouble pushing to try?
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3351. # [20:58] <jimb> naveed: pong
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3353. # [20:59] <sfink> mccr8: what problems? (I haven't tried, but I landed something recently that affects try, so I'm paranoid)
3354. # [20:59] <mccr8> sfink: It seems to be stuck in "searching for changes"
3355. # [20:59] <mccr8> or at least, that's the last thing it is showing to me
3356. # [21:00] <mccr8> with python using 40% of my CPU
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3363. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/397dbf58a6ff - Brian Hackett - Bug 832360 - Store an object's class as part of its type, r=jandem.
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3366. # [21:03] <Archaeopteryx> mccr8: i know the issue from a different branch, it's likely downloading or rebuilding the whole repo history
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3368. # [21:03] <mccr8> Archaeopteryx: okay, thanks. Is there anything I can do?
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3370. # [21:03] <Archaeopteryx> if you enable the hg progress extension, you will likely see the change count going up
3371. # [21:03] <Archaeopteryx> i wiped the repo because it was only small
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3386. # [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65ea43f36e06 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 744745 - Prevent overlay being made transparent from site CSS. r=jaws
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3388. # [21:11] <gps> ehsan|mtg: idea for PGO: compile and thus link fewer translation units. this /may/ have an impact on memory usage. currently we compile separate source files to separate TUs and that's the only thing the build system supports
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3391. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61f5684286e6 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 833392 - Send RP ID within mozChromeEvents; r=jparsons
3392. # [21:15] <ehsan|mtg> gps: I'll ping you back after my meeting to know more about what you're suggesting :)
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3394. # [21:16] <timeless> gps: you're suggesting Cat'ing multiple .cpp files together? :)
3395. # [21:16] <gps> RyanVM: should I hold off uplifting bug 827157 to Aurora? you seem to be in a pushy mood...
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3398. # [21:16] <gps> timeless: I'm suggesting invoking the compiler once for multiple source files and producing 1 object file
3399. # [21:16] <timeless> oh, heh
3400. # [21:16] <jhammel|lunch> gps: now that RyanVM is hired he has gone mad with power http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z17rrnRRHDM
3401. # [21:16] <timeless> right, you can do that
3402. # [21:17] * jhammel|lunch is now known as jhammel
3403. # [21:17] <RyanVM> gps: go for it, that wasn't showing in my queries anyway (since it was already marked status-firefox20:fixed)
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3405. # [21:17] <timeless> gps: 99% of build systems do a one-one thing, so no one remembers that compilers support otherwise :)
3406. # [21:18] <gps> it's also difficult to implement non 1:1 in the current build system
3407. # [21:18] <gps> will be easier with moz.build files though!
3408. # [21:18] <gps> we can even aggregate sources across directories then
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3410. # [21:18] <gps> FWIW, fewer compiler invocations should also consume less CPU to build, decreasing build times
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3416. # [21:20] <JosiahOne> spohl: Ping
3417. # [21:20] <mak> RyanVM: ah, congrats!
3418. # [21:22] <karl> having trouble finding a tar file of the mozilla-central repository that isn't just a tar of one revision
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3421. # [21:22] <spohl> JosiahOne: pong
3422. # [21:22] <karl> would it be reasonable to point a new contributor having trouble with hg clone to https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central ?
3423. # [21:22] <JosiahOne> spohl: I'm guessing your busy. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that the availability check patch on bug 678392 does not work on the latest trunk.
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3425. # [21:23] <RyanVM> cjones: b2g18 bustage
3426. # [21:23] <JosiahOne> spohl: I tried blobFix -> Main Swipe Patch -> AvailCheck -> Breaks.
3427. # [21:23] <JosiahOne> Weird thing is that it worked a few days ago.
3428. # [21:23] <spohl> JosiahOne: checking
3429. # [21:24] <Archaeopteryx> karl: what about bundles? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial#Bundles
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3431. # [21:24] <karl> Archaeopteryx: sounds good thanks
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3435. # [21:26] <WeirdAl> :( Ms2ger's try run didn't include tests
3436. # [21:27] <spohl> JosiahOne: fixed
3437. # [21:27] <JosiahOne> Great.
3438. # [21:28] <JosiahOne> spohl: I may have some more bad news for you, but I'll let you know.
3439. # [21:29] <ehsan|mtg> gps: still around?
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3443. # [21:30] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Should be.
3444. # [21:30] <JosiahOne> He was here 10 minutes ago.
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3446. # [21:31] <JosiahOne> But maybe not...
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3449. # [21:31] <ehsan> yeah I know, he pinged me 10 minutes ago ;)
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3452. # [21:32] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Yeah, I read your question wrong. I thought you were asking if gps is still around.
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3454. # [21:32] <JosiahOne> I see now you were asking gps directly.
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3456. # [21:32] <ehsan> heh, ok, no worries!
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3461. # [21:34] <ehsan> glandium: ping
3462. # [21:34] <glandium> ehsan: pong
3463. # [21:34] <glandium> ehsan: 3
3464. # [21:34] <ehsan> glandium: 3?
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3466. # [21:34] <glandium> ehsan: pebkac on my end
3467. # [21:35] <ehsan> lol
3468. # [21:35] <ehsan> ok
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3470. # [21:35] <ehsan> glandium: so I was wondering, as a half-ass attempt to turn pgo off for a day, can we just put defs.mk files in content, layout, dom, xpcom, etc?
3471. # [21:35] <ehsan> or is there a better rules.mk level hack?
3472. # [21:35] <glandium> ehsan: that's probably as good as it gets
3473. # [21:36] <ehsan> glandium: heh, ok, let me knock up a patch
3474. # [21:36] <glandium> ehsan: that being said i'm not convinced that will acheive much
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3476. # [21:36] <ehsan> glandium: how so?
3477. # [21:37] <glandium> ehsan: telemetry doesn't measure so many things
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3479. # [21:37] <glandium> for instance, you wont get any measure on the impact on content perf
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3481. # [21:37] <glandium> which you'd get on talos, but then, you could do that on try, not nightly for a day
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3483. # [21:38] <ehsan> glandium: yeah I know... I'm mostly looking for very large and significant things
3484. # [21:38] <glandium> also, nightly enables frame pointers, doesn't it?
3485. # [21:38] <ehsan> like "oh, without PGO, we're 50% slower on average startup"
3486. # [21:38] <ehsan> yeah that's a good point, I can turn that off too
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3488. # [21:39] <glandium> ehsan: but then you won't have a common baseline
3489. # [21:39] <ehsan> oh
3490. # [21:39] <ehsan> right
3491. # [21:39] <ehsan> hrm
3492. # [21:39] <jlebar> RyanVM|Away: wrong bug again.
3493. # [21:39] <jlebar> RyanVM|Away: Oh, no, that's just gmail being weird. nm
3494. # [21:39] <ehsan> glandium: actually, I don't think frame pointers are a huge factor, since they're present with or without PGO
3495. # [21:39] <WeirdAl> y'know, I have to wonder if we're just putting too many things into the browser / C++ code.
3496. # [21:40] <WeirdAl> we've landed a helluva lotta features over the last two years
3497. # [21:40] <ehsan> glandium: also, note that the result of this experiment might be inconclusive (and my personal intuition is that it will be)
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3499. # [21:40] <ehsan> glandium: but that's also a good outcome to know
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3504. # [21:41] <glandium> ehsan: they probably influence how good the pgo'ed code is
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3520. # [21:54] <whimboo> smaug: memchaser might not be the only extension which is causing the memory leak. i have it disabled and have again 1.3GB memory usage
3521. # [21:54] <whimboo> smaug: and regular spikes in 99% cpu load
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3531. # [22:01] <jlebar> If I want a hash-set equivalent of nsCOMArray, is that nsTHashtable<nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> >, or something else?
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3535. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acb757c290b9 - David Zbarsky - Bug 832153 - Convert SVGMaskElement to WebIDL r=bz
3536. # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0594c42fbb4f - David Zbarsky - Bug 832153: Move SVGMaskElement to mozilla::dom r=bz
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3542. # [22:04] <dholbert> Looks like m-i has a perma-orange in bc "social" tests...
3543. # [22:04] <dholbert> ever since https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=06d0d20fbaf1
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3546. # [22:06] <dholbert> appears to be from the ionmonkey change
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3550. # [22:06] <dholbert> (There are 3 csets in that merge. the first is on m-c as well, and didn't cause the orange there; the second is an empty merge commit, and the third is the ionmonkey change
3551. # [22:06] <dholbert> )
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3553. # [22:07] <@smaug> whimboo: right
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3555. # [22:07] <@smaug> whimboo: someone should test addonSDK addons some more
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3559. # [22:08] <nemo> http://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/2013-01-22/aca stuff like this makes me so happy. is so widespread now
3560. # [22:08] <nemo> well done html5
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3562. # [22:09] * dholbert backs out Bug 825379
3563. # [22:09] <nemo> and stuff where I can select text, inspect elements, search for text like names of people in the list...
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3565. # [22:09] <nemo> just a few years ago that would have been flash
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3567. # [22:09] <nemo> probably have Steve Jobs to thank
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3572. # [22:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63c006191d08 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 833931: Suppress unused-result warnings in OfflineCacheUpdateParent.cpp w/ mozilla::unused. r=mayhemer
3573. # [22:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b66caf705f6 - Daniel Holbert - Back out 06d0d20fbaf1 (bug 825379) for apparently causing bc perma-orange.
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3575. # [22:12] <whimboo> smaug: at least i will keep an eye on the issue I'm seeing. lets see how this will affect other addons
3576. # [22:14] <@smaug> whimboo: could you perhaps ask addonSDK devs to test this ?
3577. # [22:14] * @smaug knows very little about addonSDK
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3579. # [22:14] <gps> ehugg: and I'm back!
3580. # [22:15] <whimboo> smaug: sure. fist let me figure out a better testcase and the extension
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3582. # [22:15] <@smaug> whimboo: does AMO tell whether addon is implemented using addonSDK?
3583. # [22:15] <ehugg> gps: that's great that you're back, did you tab-complete the wrong name?
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3585. # [22:16] <ehsan> glandium: are you around for a review?
3586. # [22:16] <@smaug> or how does one know whether addonSDK has been used
3587. # [22:16] <whimboo> smaug: i don't think so
3588. # [22:16] <whimboo> smaug: you have to look into the xpi
3589. # [22:16] <gps> ehsan: and I'm back (sorry ehugg)
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3592. # [22:16] <whimboo> smaug: there should be a harness.js file
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3594. # [22:16] <whimboo> afair
3595. # [22:17] <ehsan> gps: ok, question about your suggestion. are you suggesting concatenating the input files? or passing multiple files at a time to the compiler?
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3599. # [22:17] <gps> ehsan: the latter. though this will be difficult in the existing build system. just something to think about
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3606. # [22:16] <ehsan> gps: with the latter suggestion, you'll still get the same number of obj files, right?
3607. # [22:16] <glandium> ehsan: not for very long
3608. # [22:16] <jaws> what's the trick to getting the location of the output files for try pushes before the build has finished?
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3610. # [22:16] * jaws looks at other try pushes and will work backwards from there
3611. # [22:16] <gps> ehsan: no. you instruct the compiler to emit fewer object files with the contents of multiple source files
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3613. # [22:17] <gps> this /might/ impact PGO memory usage. I have no clue.
3614. # [22:17] <glandium> gps: there are many places where we have conflicts
3615. # [22:17] <glandium> gps: i tried that a while ago, this makes debug info significantly smaller on linux
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3617. # [22:18] <ehsan> gps: using which flag?
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3621. # [22:18] <glandium> i'm also wondering if our tendency to include the whole world in many files is not making things worse for LTCG, too
3622. # [22:18] <gps> ehsan: you just pass multiple input files to the compiler IIRC. our build system doesn't have an option for it
3623. # [22:18] <sfink> mccr8: sorry, got sidetracked. Did your try push ever finish?
3624. # [22:19] <ehsan> glandium: you mean #include?
3625. # [22:19] <glandium> ehsan: yes
3626. # [22:19] <ehsan> glandium: well I have the patch here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=705522&action=edit ;)
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3628. # [22:19] <ehsan> glandium: yeah, could be... :(
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3631. # [22:20] <glandium> ehsan: if we only do that temporarily, why care about the channel?
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3633. # [22:20] <ehsan> glandium: I just wanted to make sure that it doesn't generate talos noise for other PGO builds
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3635. # [22:21] <ehsan> since that will persist forever in the graphs etc
3636. # [22:21] <glandium> ehsan: ah good point. are they actually using a different channel?
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3638. # [22:21] <ehsan> they have no channel set, just like regular tinderbox builds
3639. # [22:21] <ehsan> glandium: (lemme verify that claim!)
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3643. # [22:23] <ehsan> glandium: yeah, nightly builds have the MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL env var set, regular pgo builds don't
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3645. # [22:23] <ehsan> verified by looking at the logs
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3647. # [22:25] <ehsan> thanks for the review, glandium
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3655. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/70baa7e07838 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 833915 - Turn off PGO and LTCG on Windows Nightly for one day; r=glandium
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3657. # [22:27] <@dbaron> RyanVM|Away, philor, any opinions on whether the unstarred orange on beta is normal or unusual?
3658. # [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4c77bcee9d7 - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Miscellaneous fixes for DASH Mochitests r=cpearce
3659. # [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19a7d34aa7cd - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Do not close MPD resource before shutdown r=cpearce
3660. # [22:28] <mccr8> sfink: I repulled b2g18, and haven't tried again.
3661. # [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/766ad7085964 - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Add DASH to gSmallTests and gSeekTests to manifest.js (Media Mochitests) r=cpearce
3662. # [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d0906299c15 - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Add decoder cloning support to DASH for mozLoadFrom r=cpearce
3663. # [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/994d70120d98 - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Restore correct playState after state machine initialization r=cpearce
3664. # [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a1e65795577 - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Add DASH to various Media Mochitests r=cpearce
3665. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64fe42ecc281 - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Add tests for canPlayType for DASH (Media Mochitests) r=cpearce
3666. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97d3de3539ca - Steve Workman - Bug 792935 - Forward suspend and resume to sub-decoders r=cpearce
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3671. # [22:30] <philor> dbaron: the m8 is something #mobile has been fighting for a day or so, the bc doesn't excite me much
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3677. # [22:32] <@dbaron> philor, I suppose I'll file a new bug on the bc orange, then, and then land...
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3693. # [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6a17d8e8113 - Dale Harvey - Bug 833095 - Fix format of file notification when recording complete. r=mikeh
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3701. # [22:39] <mccr8> sfink: yeah, after 8 minutes, it was still sitting at "searching for changes"
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3704. # [22:40] <firebot> Check-in:
3705. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cfa438fea2b9 - L. David Baron - Bug 832998: Fix a backwards OMTA-throttling-enabled check, to fix performance regression on the non-OMTA-throttling case. r=nrc approval-mozilla-beta=lsblakk
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3708. # [22:42] <sfink> mccr8: is your push based on something unlikely to be on try? I just did a test push to try, and it took a second or two
3709. # [22:42] <mccr8> sfink: I'm pushing against b2g18
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3711. # [22:42] <sfink> mccr8: hm, is that rarely pushed to try?
3712. # [22:43] <mccr8> sfink: first time I've tried. ;)
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3714. # [22:43] <sfink> mccr8: but other people do, right?
3715. # [22:43] <mccr8> I'd assume, but I don't really know. I don't do much with b2g.
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3732. # [22:47] <WeirdAl> dbaron: re flattening tree... would you want tests in a subfolder named test, still?
3733. # [22:47] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, yeah
3734. # [22:48] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, and it's probably worth checking if roc agrees before going ahead and doing that
3735. # [22:48] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, that said, I think there is an advantage to doing fewer file moves rather than more
3736. # [22:48] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, since hg isn't great
3737. # [22:48] * WeirdAl shrugs
3738. # [22:48] <WeirdAl> I personally have no strong opinions either way.
3739. # [22:49] <WeirdAl> except that tests should be isolated in a subdir :)
3740. # [22:49] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, I hope you don't mind the extra churn
3741. # [22:49] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, yeah, the tests should definitely stay in a subdir
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3743. # [22:49] <jesup> If I've landed something on inbound, and REALLY want it in nightly tomorrow, can I also land it on m-c (and babysit) without annoying the sheriffs too much? Or is there a better way?
3744. # [22:50] <WeirdAl> dbaron - should I cancel the checkin? flag in the meantime?
3745. # [22:50] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, I think so, if you don't mind
3746. # [22:50] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, I suspect roc should be able to give a quick answer on whether he agrees
3747. # [22:51] <khuey> Waldo: is there a MOZ_ASSERT for opt builds?
3748. # [22:51] <@dbaron> (if not, poke him; in any case, I'm heading home as it's late here)
3749. # [22:51] <Waldo> khuey: MOZ_CRASH()
3750. # [22:51] <@dbaron> khuey, NS_RUNTIMEABOURT?
3751. # [22:51] <@dbaron> oh
3752. # [22:51] <khuey> Waldo: thanks
3753. # [22:51] <WeirdAl> dbaron: well, with r+, and trains not departing for a few weeks, there's no sense of urgency
3754. # [22:51] <khuey> dbaron: the British tendency for extraneous 'u's is rubbing off on you I see
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3757. # [22:52] <@dbaron> khuey, more like the keys being next to each other
3758. # [22:52] <@dbaron> or something
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3760. # [22:52] <khuey> u is not next to o or r on my keyboard
3761. # [22:52] <@dbaron> yeah, it's not on mine either, actually
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3765. # [22:52] <@dbaron> I'm just used to typing "about" all the time
3766. # [22:53] <WeirdAl> dbaron: if you want to prep a patch that does all that, I'd appreciate it
3767. # [22:53] <jhammel> i just thought 'abourt' was a portmanteau of about and abort
3768. # [22:53] <jhammel> sounds more canadian than french to me
3769. # [22:53] <@dbaron> WeirdAl, can't now; need to sleep soon, and then spend all (long) day tomorrow travelling
3770. # [22:53] <WeirdAl> yikes, ok
3771. # [22:53] <@dbaron> such that at the other end of the trip, it'll be spelled traveling
3772. # [22:54] <@dbaron> anyway, office -> flat, now
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3776. # [22:55] <mccr8> sfink: somebody else was able to push a b2g18 thing to try, so I guess it is just a weird local problem I'm having.
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3778. # [22:56] <sfink> mccr8: did you try to push after updating?
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3780. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a87b974b3c2 - Steven Michaud - Bug 833936 - NPNVcontentsScaleFactor inadvertently not supported for NPN_GetValue() when called from OOP plugins. r=bgirard
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3782. # [22:58] <mccr8> sfink: doesn't seem to help
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3784. # [22:58] <sfink> mccr8: do you have any crap in your |hg outgoing|?
3785. # [22:58] <@smaug> mccr8: I had once or twice something similar. I had to reboot
3786. # [22:58] <mccr8> sfink: just the two patches
3787. # [22:58] <mccr8> smaug: weird...
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3789. # [22:58] <@smaug> perhaps reseting networking would have helped too
3790. # [22:59] <mccr8> my network has been flaky today
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3800. # [23:01] <jesup> philor: If I've landed something on inbound, and REALLY want it in nightly tomorrow, can I also land it on m-c (and babysit) without annoying the sheriffs too much? Or is there a better way?
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3802. # [23:02] <fabrice> Mossop: do you know if we have js code to compare version numbers? I guess you need that in the add-on management code
3803. # [23:02] <Mossop> fabrice: nsIVersionComparator
3804. # [23:02] <fabrice> Mossop: great
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3806. # [23:03] * fabrice wonders why mxr failed to find that
3807. # [23:03] <Mossop> It's actually implemented in c++ (god knows why!)
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3813. # [23:05] <philor> jesup: yeah, double-landing isn't a problem, the merge just silently deals with it
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3815. # [23:05] <mak> provided the changesets are identical
3816. # [23:05] <jesup> cool, thanks
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3818. # [23:06] <lmandel> ehsan: Thanks for the bug link.
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3820. # [23:06] <ehsan> lmandel: sure thing
3821. # [23:07] <ehsan> lmandel: sorry that this information is so scattered :/
3822. # [23:07] <lmandel> ehsan: what else is new :)
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3825. # [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6cbe99a8f3a7 - Avi Halachmi - Bug 826383: cyclic array for frames recording to support concurrent users. r=jmuizelaar,khuey
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3827. # [23:07] <ehsan> hehe
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3838. # [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0b1325001df4 - Randell Jesup - Bug 832683: Match SRTP policy values to enable NACK mode in webrtc r=ekr
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3842. # [23:13] <RyanVM> jesup: too late now, but I was planning on doing another merge today still
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3845. # [23:13] <jesup> Ryan: ok, 1 less patch to merge then! :-)
3846. # [23:13] <njn> dholbert: can you update the title of bug 736501? I no longer know what it's about
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3857. # [23:19] <dholbert> njn, the title is exactly correct
3858. # [23:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9624c7fca53f - Steven Michaud - Bug 829284 - Unity plugin doesn't display in HiDPI mode. r=bgirard
3859. # [23:20] <njn> dholbert: oh, ok :)
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3861. # [23:20] <dholbert> njn, it is now that I've spun off the other bug, at least. :)
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3863. # [23:20] <dholbert> njn, having said that, it may be WONTFIX
3864. # [23:20] <njn> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833518#c8 -- are there docs or prior bugs I could look at?
3865. # [23:20] <KaiRo> dvander: any ETA when you'll land bug 831626? I'd be very interested to see if it solves those topcrashers... ;-)
3866. # [23:20] <njn> dholbert: yeah, we'll see
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3868. # [23:20] <njn> dholbert: thanks for clarifying/spinning off
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3871. # [23:21] <dholbert> njn, np. Just added a further-clarification to bug summary)
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3873. # [23:22] <@bz> njn: looking
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3875. # [23:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c207bdc9a324 - Brian Hackett - Bug 832972 - Reduce cost of exact stack rooting during name operations, clean up some GC allocation methods, r=terrence.
3876. # [23:22] <@bz> njn: I'm not sure what information you're looking for...
3877. # [23:23] * mdas|afk is now known as mdas
3878. # [23:23] <@bz> njn: you mean how to convert things to webidl?
3879. # [23:23] <njn> bz: " This is a highly parallelizable and mechanical task with two exceptions (embed/object and form), and I welcome people helping out."
3880. # [23:23] <@bz> njn: ah
3881. # [23:23] <njn> bz: I'm offering to (maybe) help out :)
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3883. # [23:23] <@bz> njn: 824823 has some examples
3884. # [23:23] <njn> bz: I'm good at mechanical tasks that reduce memory consumption :)
3885. # [23:23] <njn> ok
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3887. # [23:23] <@bz> njn: and actually...
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3889. # [23:24] <@bz> njn: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Paris-nodes
3890. # [23:24] <@bz> njn: has a list of in-progress and to-do things
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3892. # [23:24] <@bz> njn: with bug numbers and whatnot
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3894. # [23:25] <@bz> njn: Note that finishing up pretty much all the HTML elements is one of the DOM Q1 goals
3895. # [23:25] <@bz> njn: so we're going to get there pretty soon.
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3898. # [23:27] <njn> bz: hmm, that doesn't look *entirely* mechanical...
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3901. # [23:27] <njn> esp. for someone who knows basically nothing about WebIDL
3902. # [23:27] <@bz> njn: hmm
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3904. # [23:27] <@bz> njn: maybe I'm just used to reviewing patch after patch from dzbarsky that all look pretty much the same.... :(
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3907. # [23:29] <njn> bz: maybe I can't be that much help here
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3909. # [23:29] <@bz> njn: ok
3910. # [23:29] <njn> bz: for Aurora, do you think turning the bindings off, or filtering on* ones is better?
3911. # [23:29] <@bz> njn: I don't think it's worth you spending time on this unless you're actually interested
3912. # [23:29] <@bz> njn: if the filtering works, it's vastly preferable
3913. # [23:29] <@bz> njn: works enough, I should say
3914. # [23:29] <@bz> njn: whatever "enough" is
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3916. # [23:30] <njn> bz: ok
3917. # [23:30] <njn> bz: is that something you would do, or peterv?
3918. # [23:30] * @bz wonders whether we'd need to readd the relevant quickstubs
3919. # [23:30] <@bz> njn: peterv's working on it
3920. # [23:30] <njn> cool
3921. # [23:30] <@bz> njn: at least he said so in the bug
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3929. # [23:34] <njn> bz: yeah, I'm not particularly interested in WebIDL stuff, and since it's not 100% mechanical I'll do other stuff
3930. # [23:34] <@bz> njn: Makes sense.
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3955. # [23:44] <jaws> Waldo: where can i download visual studio 2011?
3956. # [23:44] <jaws> Waldo: i don't think that version exists
3957. # [23:44] <Waldo> jaws: er, did they rename 2011 to 2012?
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3959. # [23:44] <jaws> Waldo: as i understand it, yes
3960. # [23:44] <Waldo> jaws: would have been worth putting that in a bug comment -- also the bug alias should be updated, if so
3961. # [23:44] <jaws> they screwed their opportunity to have vc11 match vs11
3962. # [23:45] <ehsan> that's what they did iirc
3963. # [23:45] <jaws> Waldo: that's what i did :P
3964. # [23:45] <Waldo> okay
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3967. # [23:45] <Waldo> jaws: I don't see that comment, only a summary-change that's easily misread :-)
3968. # [23:46] <NeilAway> jaws: eek, I must have confused you, the changeset pushed is worse than the patch as posted :s
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3970. # [23:46] <jaws> NeilAway: oh really? should i back it out?
3971. # [23:46] <jaws> NeilAway: in which way?
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3973. # [23:47] <Waldo> jaws: updated the bug with a comment, thanks for clarifying
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3977. # [23:48] * Waldo kind of wishes he'd felt comfortable enough to not have to put an explicit smiley at the end of that comment, but probably better safe than sorry, as the alternative might have derailed the bug
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3980. # [23:49] <jhammel> Waldo: ;)
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3983. # [23:49] <NeilAway> jaws: oh, actually, it's not as bad as I thought, but I said to ignore comment 13 which I think the two lines https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c5ab9bc4a5d#l1.49 were trying to address
3984. # [23:49] <Waldo> jhammel: :-)
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3988. # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b0dcc10f4768 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833946 - Don't scan the entire tree for a root manifest in the packager. r=gps
3989. # [23:50] <Waldo> jhammel: I'm sure enlightened people like you and me would have understood the comment correctly, but unfortunately not everyone has as well-developed as sense of humor as we do
3990. # [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4c8d59b07d16 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833882 - Correctly handle non chrome directories when doing l10n-repack. r=gps
3991. # [23:50] <Waldo> s/as sense/a sense/
3992. # [23:50] * AaronMT is now known as AaronMT|Away
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3994. # [23:50] <jhammel> Waldo: fwiw, i mostly use ';)' as the IRC way of saying "I'm being sarcastic. Ignore me. Please don't take me seriously."
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3996. # [23:50] <Waldo> jhammel: why didn't that line include a ';)'?
3997. # [23:50] <NeilAway> jhammel: I don't always remember, and it really confuses Ms2ger
3998. # [23:50] <jhammel> if you meet me in real life and don't know that already, then you're in trouble
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4000. # [23:50] <Waldo> :-D
4001. # [23:51] <Waldo> jhammel: we've met a couple times at cantinas :-)
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4004. # [23:51] <jhammel> Waldo: i meant "one", but yes :)
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4006. # [23:51] <jhammel> the hypothetical "you"
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4010. # [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/edcfa1ea5dda - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 825570: Finish plumbing attribute getters for localDescription and remoteDescription r=jesup,smaug
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4012. # [23:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33b1caee42d2 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 827843: Check for closed state on relevant operations r=jesup,smaug
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4017. # [23:53] <sfink> jhammel says serious stuff on IRC?
4018. # [23:53] <jhammel> eh, occassionally
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4023. # [23:54] <jaws> NeilAway: yeah but you made a good point. i don't think that introduced any bugs though
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4025. # [23:54] <sfink> anyone happen to know a gcc invocation that will tell me the path of cc1 it's using?
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4027. # [23:55] <abr> Is there a way to cancel all the activity that is triggered by a single try without having to click on 75 to 100 buttons individually?
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4031. # [23:56] <abr> sfink: gcc --print-prog-name=cc1
4032. # [23:56] <jhammel> abr: yes, click on the red stop signy thing on the appropriate job on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try
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4034. # [23:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff6901f603ec - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 804315: Increase activation delay for tap gestures. r=cjones a=lsblakk
4035. # [23:57] <abr> jhammel -- Ah! Thanks.
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4037. # [23:57] <jaws> Waldo: knowing you in person i know that you're a nice guy :)
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4039. # [23:57] <jhammel> abr: yeah, kinda hidden
4040. # [23:57] <jhammel> known issue
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4042. # [23:58] <jaws> Waldo: microsoft had their one opportunity to line up the VisualC++ and Visual Studio numbering schemes but blew it, and forever people will be confused as to which version they are using
4043. # [23:58] <sfink> abr: perfect, thank you!
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