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7. # [00:00] <Waldo> jaws: par for the course with MSVC version numbers, I guess :-\
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11. # [00:01] <cpeterson> jaws, which version number was that?
12. # [00:01] <Waldo> they could still line up, to be sure, just not quite so smoothly
13. # [00:01] <cpeterson> 12?
14. # [00:01] <Waldo> now if you'll pardon me, I need to see whether this bug exists in Netscape 5 (aka Mozilla/5.0)
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16. # [00:02] <cpeterson> oh, MSVS 2010 == MSVC 10.0
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18. # [00:03] <jaws> cpeterson: visual studio 2008 used vc9, visual studio 2010 used vc10, and visual studio 2011 could have used vc11, but they slipped their release date and had to call it visual studio 2012, which uses vc11
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25. # [00:05] <jaws> of course, trying to keep that together would require a 12-month release cycle, which i don't think they are aligned towards
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28. # [00:06] <Mook_as> jaws: meh, it's not like Windows 7 being 6.1 made any sense...
29. # [00:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3dce29c9419 - Christian Sonne - Bug 829843 - "Name this tab group" in panorama overlaps the edit icon r=ttaubert
30. # [00:06] <gfritzsche> it actually looks like the vc team got some traction
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32. # [00:06] <gfritzsche> sounds like they will move a bit faster now
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34. # [00:06] <cpeterson> jaws, MS would probably not release (or want) a product called "MSVS 2013" or "MSVC 13.0", so they might have a chance to align at [20]14.
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36. # [00:07] <jaws> ah, good old fear of the number 13
37. # [00:07] <jaws> glad that we weren't afraid of it :)
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42. # [00:09] <Waldo> jaws: ...and I thought it couldn't possibly get any worse :-(
43. # [00:09] <jaws> lol
44. # [00:09] * Waldo is willing to doubt MS will avoid the number 13
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49. # [00:10] <jaws> you know... we could always drop version numbers altogether ;P
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51. # [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ff961a90f5e - Usurelu Catalin - Bug 817846 - Add BaseSize::IsEmpty() member function. r=cjones
52. # [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70baa7e07838 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 833915 - Turn off PGO and LTCG on Windows Nightly for one day; r=glandium
53. # [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0dcc10f4768 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833946 - Don't scan the entire tree for a root manifest in the packager. r=gps
54. # [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97d15a5913e1 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833848 - Don't forget to localize crashreporter.ini and crashreporter-override.ini with the new packager. r=ted DONTBUILD
55. # [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b1325001df4 - Randell Jesup - Bug 832683: Match SRTP policy values to enable NACK mode in webrtc r=ekr
56. # [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad26cf59d304 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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58. # [00:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c8d59b07d16 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833882 - Correctly handle non chrome directories when doing l10n-repack. r=gps
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61. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d54dfb62030 - Zuhao(Joe) Chen - Bug 831168 - Mach should handle a corrupted warnings database. r=gps
62. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c8777d256c7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833886 - Attempt to unbreak comm-central after bug 780561. r=ted DONTBUILD
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68. # [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6eea9913acdd - Andrew Miller - Bug 833948 - Fix misspelling of property from candidateInitDict. r=rjesup
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71. # [00:19] <Waldo> d'oh, dbaron left while I was deciding what I needed to say to him :-(
72. # [00:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2f9e6ee3491 - Daniel Glazman - Bug 833610 - Backout the second half of bug 832025; r=ehsan
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98. # [00:37] <sfink> ted: ping
99. # [00:38] <cpeterson> dougt, is there a wiki page for the "Push" meeting agenda and minutes?
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106. # [00:43] <ehsan> gps: mach error: "ImportError: No module named buildconfig". sounds familiar?
107. # [00:43] <dcamp> joduinn-mtg, Mossop: have you two managed to talk yet?
108. # [00:43] <Mossop> dcamp: Yep, this morning
109. # [00:43] <dcamp> cool
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111. # [00:43] <dcamp> Mossop: all set?
112. # [00:43] <gps> ehsan: that's impressive. configure failed?
113. # [00:44] <ehsan> oh wait
114. # [00:44] <ehsan> nm me
115. # [00:44] <ehsan> I'm on an ancient branch
116. # [00:44] <Mossop> dcamp: Should be I think
117. # [00:44] <dcamp> cool, thanks
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123. # [00:47] <@ted> sfink: pong (but i shouldn't be here)
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125. # [00:47] <sfink> ted: any quick pointers you can give me about adding custom crud to minidumps? (regions of memory)
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127. # [00:48] <@ted> sfink: we have some code in JS that does that already that you can look at
128. # [00:48] <sfink> ted: what could I grep for?
129. # [00:48] <sfink> ted: and how much is too much, in terms of bytes?
130. # [00:49] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: did I ever tell you how I make multiple objdirs per source tree with mozconfigs? basically the source tree mozconfig just says ". .mozconfig" so when you run make -f $srcdir/client.mk from the objdir it picks up the .mozconfig in the current directory
131. # [00:49] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSRuntime.cpp#2276
132. # [00:49] <@ted> sfink: minidumps are usually ~100k
133. # [00:49] <@ted> mostly depends on the stack memory, we save the stack memory for each thread (on linux we limit it to 32k)
134. # [00:50] <sfink> ted: thank you
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136. # [00:50] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: (doesn't work with mach though because that explicitly cds back to the srcdir thus defeating the trick :-( )
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139. # [00:50] <@ted> sfink: for nightlies as long as it's only tens of k it's probably fine
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147. # [00:52] <sfink> ted: I may want this in beta, I'm not sure
148. # [00:53] <@ted> ok
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150. # [00:53] <@ted> the only thing to really be concerned about is mobile/b2g really
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152. # [00:53] <@ted> although we try to only submit on wifi on b2g
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154. # [00:53] <@ted> and i think we're submitting the dumps gzipped on android now
155. # [00:54] <sfink> I could conditionally turn it off for b2g, I suppose, but I probably won't be putting in more than 1k or so
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158. # [00:55] <@ted> okay, that shouldn't be a big deal
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160. # [00:55] <sfink> anyway, I don't want to keep you. RegisterAppMemory sounds perfect.
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164. # [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dd0875ef7437 - Ben Turner - Bug 831307, add additional logging. r=cjones.
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167. # [01:00] <gps> at some point I think these "mark /X as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS" bugs should be replaced with "make FAIL_ON_WARNINGS default except in /X"
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169. # [01:00] <Ann_Yiming> question about the nsIDOMWindowUtils.sendTouchEvent . I looked into mdn and still quite confused of its aRxs, aRys, and aModifiers attributes. So what exactly do they represent?
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172. # [01:03] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: bah, you stole my patch, and added a test, and now you get credit for my line of code ;-)
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178. # [01:06] <cjones> anyone around know much about docshell active/inactive states and painting (and will admit it)?
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182. # [01:07] <Jesse> gps: that change would mostly affect newly imported code, right?
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184. # [01:09] * @dolske frowns at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build
185. # [01:09] <gps> Jesse: newly imported/written code, yes. I'm just saying if we are making a big push to eliminating compiler warnings, we should be strict by default rather than opt in
186. # [01:09] <@dolske> why does it span multiple pages now? sigh.
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188. # [01:10] <dholbert> Ann_Yiming, I haven't actually used that API, but did you happen to find the "Parameters" description at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIDOMWindowUtils#sendTouchEvent%28%29 ?
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191. # [01:11] <Ann_Yiming> dholbert: yes i did read it but the "aRxs, aRys and aModifiers" still confuses me
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193. # [01:11] <Ann_Yiming> dholbert: still not quite sure what they are exactly
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199. # [01:14] <Mossop> Ann_Yiming: Looks like a touch event sends all the touch points. Each point has an x,y coordinate and a radius in the x and y directions. aRxs is an array of the radii in the x direction, aRys for the y direction. Modifiers are things like shift, ctrl or alt keys
200. # [01:14] <dholbert> Ann_Yiming, see also https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/base/nsIDOMWindowUtils.idl#258 for documentation in our source file, and https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/base/nsIDOMWindowUtils.idl#197 for the various modifier flags
201. # [01:15] <Ann_Yiming> Mossop: dholbert: ha that's really helpful! thx guys!!!
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203. # [01:15] <dholbert> np
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206. # [01:19] <nsm> sinc ebug 780561 landed today, do i need to change the build process in some way? I'm getting the following error
207. # [01:19] <nsm> whoops sorry
208. # [01:19] <nsm> this error: /home/nikhil/mozilla-central-push-b2g/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk:578: *** MOZ_PACKAGER_FORMAT is not set. Stop.
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211. # [01:22] <dholbert> nsm, that's probably a question for glandium or gps
212. # [01:22] <dholbert> nsm, (did you try clobbering your objdir?)
213. # [01:22] <nsm> yes
214. # [01:23] <dholbert> well, I'm out of ideas
215. # [01:23] <dholbert> :)
216. # [01:23] <nsm> oh wait, after the clobber, i let B2G build it
217. # [01:23] <nsm> maybe my B2G checkout isn't updated
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219. # [01:24] <dholbert> maaaybe, probably unlikely to be the cause though
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221. # [01:24] <nsm> hmm, then i don't know what to do
222. # [01:24] <dholbert> I'd say you need to bug gps and/or glandium :) (though perhaps they're asleep and/or AFK)
223. # [01:24] <nsm> ok
224. # [01:24] <nsm> i'll try a mach build
225. # [01:24] <gps> nsm: the packager rewrite possibly broke b2g. see dev-platform email and wait for glandium to wake up if you don't figure it out
226. # [01:25] <nsm> oh :( ok
227. # [01:25] <gps> not sure what "mozilla-central-push-b2g" is
228. # [01:25] <gps> you could also try removing packager foo from your mozconfig
229. # [01:25] <nsm> err, thats my checkout of m-c
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231. # [01:25] <gps> pastebin in?
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233. # [01:26] <nsm> pastebin what?
234. # [01:26] <gps> your mozconfig
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236. # [01:27] <nsm> i don't think b2g uses my config, since it compiles for arm
237. # [01:27] <nsm> i haven't tried with my x86 config
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239. # [01:27] <nsm> so i'll try that, it doesn't have any packager related entry
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241. # [01:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5e034e13760 - Steve Fink - Bug 831961 - fix jsapi-tests rooting hazards from static analysis. r=terrence
242. # [01:28] <nsm> thanks gps. i'll bug you if this fails
243. # [01:29] * nsm mutters something about various things in b2g being broken for 2 days now
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245. # [01:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd0875ef7437 - Ben Turner - Bug 831307, add additional logging. r=cjones.
246. # [01:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85a2b0234d76 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
247. # [01:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c949b6ea64c - Randell Jesup - Bug 834062: Disable INET6 for sctp unittests on Android to match the tested code r=ekr
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252. # [01:36] <NeilAway> jlebar: looks like you want nsTHashtable<nsISupportsHashKey>
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280. # [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89c0d45b70c8 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 804837. Part 0: Rework the connection and input/output port logic for Web Audio nodes; r=ehsan
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283. # [01:51] <philor> jesup: don't forget to tell abr to make test_peerConnection_bug827843.html desktopsupportedonly so it doesn't fail on Andr... oh, it already is faiilng
284. # [01:51] <mattwoodrow> thanks RyanVM
285. # [01:52] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: np
286. # [01:52] <RyanVM> philor: I was just getting ready to back that push out
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298. # [01:55] <philor> RyanVM: that'll work, too
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306. # [01:58] <philor> though the fix is just that https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33b1caee42d2#l3.114 needs to be }, true);
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311. # [02:00] <jesup|mac> philor: thanks
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315. # [02:01] <philor> jesup|mac: don't thank me, I don't have a tree to actually _do_ anything with
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318. # [02:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85fb9e771edb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 33b1caee42d2 (bug 827843) for Android test failures.
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323. # [02:06] <RyanVM> that'll teach me to check IRC after pushing
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328. # [02:08] * karl wonders whether http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/ gives much more than 100KB/s to other parts of the world
329. # [02:08] <philor> yeah, hg push && kill -9 irc is the best way
330. # [02:09] <RyanVM> philor: jhammel says I'm getting drunk with power
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333. # [02:11] <philor> karl: 790, I was going to make 800 but I ran out of file just when it was getting up to speed
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335. # [02:11] <karl> thanks, that answers my question at least
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338. # [02:12] <kinetik> karl: i get just over 1MB/s from home
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342. # [02:13] <karl> hmm, perhaps i should file a bug
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345. # [02:13] <philor> ah, so we just throttle the office? nice!
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348. # [02:13] <kinetik> karl: 30% packet loss on the office link might be part of the problem
349. # [02:13] <karl> apparently, it doesn't seem to depend on network load
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353. # [02:15] <karl> kinetik: oh, i didn't know about that; how did you measure? ping ftp.mozilla.org is not noticing loss
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358. # [02:16] <kinetik> karl: ping random other international sites
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366. # [02:19] <karl> not detecting with annarchy.freedesktop.org vbox6.gnome.org
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369. # [02:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a545cc984003 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 827843: Check for closed state on relevant operations r=jesup,smaug
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382. # [02:28] <@bz> Anyone know where I can look up things like asset tags and such?
383. # [02:28] <@bz> For the hardware I have?
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387. # [02:29] <@dolske> bz: I don't think it's queryable anywhere, you'll have to ask IT.
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389. # [02:30] <@bz> dolske: ok, thanks
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392. # [02:31] <cjones> bz!
393. # [02:31] <cjones> ping
394. # [02:31] <@bz> cjones: ack, but sort of dealing with some stuff right now
395. # [02:31] <Waldo> I think the CSSWG reftest test requirements are going to make me scream soon
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397. # [02:31] <cjones> bz, no worries, carry on
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475. # [03:17] <bjacob> njn: ping about how dmd works on b2g
476. # [03:17] <njn> bjacob: pong
477. # [03:18] <bjacob> njn: i assume that DMD relies on a replace_malloc library being preloaded in every process. How do you achieve that?
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479. # [03:19] <njn> bjacob: are you asking about usage instructions, or how it works under the covers?
480. # [03:19] <bjacob> how it works
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483. # [03:20] <bjacob> i can put a LD_PRELOAD in b2g.sh but how is that going to apply to other processes?
484. # [03:20] <njn> bjacob: B2G uses jemalloc, and glandium's replace-malloc stuff handles the rest; that's as much as I know
485. # [03:20] <bjacob> hm ok
486. # [03:20] <njn> bjacob: which other processes? child processes?
487. # [03:20] <bjacob> yes
488. # [03:20] <bjacob> like, browser, camera app, etc
489. # [03:21] <njn> bjacob: they inherit the environment variables
490. # [03:21] <bjacob> ah!
491. # [03:21] <bjacob> ok that makes sense then
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493. # [03:21] <bjacob> njn: thanks
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495. # [03:22] <njn> bjacob: np
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498. # [03:24] <bjacob> njn: do you know how libdmd.so is pushed to /system/b2g? it's not in the libdmd makefile
499. # [03:25] <njn> bjacob: sorry, no. I don't have a B2G phone, so I've never actually run DMD on one
500. # [03:25] <bjacob> ok
501. # [03:25] <njn> bjacob: jlebar is the expert
502. # [03:25] <bjacob> jlebar|away: ping
503. # [03:25] <njn> bjacob: you've read the B2G instructions at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink/DMD, I assume?
504. # [03:26] <bjacob> i hadnt, i wasn't looking for usage instructions
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506. # [03:27] <njn> bjacob: it might give you some hints
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524. # [03:38] <bjacob> njn: was in package-manifest.in. got my 'refgraph' tool pretty much ready, trying it out in b2g , excited
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530. # [03:44] <kk1fff> how to get docshell of target of DOMWindowCreated event?
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534. # [03:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00f8e147686a - Agam Jain - Bug 809018 - Add 12-hour mode to DateTimePicker; r=jchen DONTBUILD
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548. # [03:53] <njn> bjacob: what does refgraph do?
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553. # [03:55] <bjacob> njn: it instruments all strong references (like nsRefPtr) ; it scans the heap to construct a graph where the vertices are heap blocks and the edges are strong references (also knows about weak refs) ; from there it allows you to either manually navigate through the graph, or use built-in algorithms to e.g. find cycles in the graph and compare to cycles known to the cycle collector
554. # [03:55] <njn> bjacob: is this the one that used to be a valgrind tool?
555. # [03:55] <bjacob> njn: yes
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559. # [03:59] <bjacob> njn: i also plan to make it aware of which vertices are wrapped as JS objects. In this way, as it already knows which edges are known to the CC, we will catch the bugs whereby we fail to CC an edge between JS-wrapped objects (even if there is no cycle at c++ level, that needs to be CC'd in case JS would close the cycle)
560. # [04:00] <@bz> cjones: I can sorta talk if you want to now
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580. # [04:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c792b677b4c - Vincent Chang - Bug 831716 - [Settings] [Internet sharing][wifi] Tapping Wi-fi hotspot/wifi ON disable Wi-fi connection forever. r=mrbkap, dflanagan
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592. # [04:24] <kk1fff> Hi, how can I get reference of the docshell in DOMWindowCreated handler?
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594. # [04:28] <@dolske> kk1fff: I think event.target..QueryInterface(Ci.nsIInterfaceRequestor).getInterface(Ci.nsIWebNavigation).QueryInterface(Ci.nsIDocShell) will get you there
595. # [04:30] <@bz> cjones: back for real now
596. # [04:30] <@bz> dolske: I should note that that line of code says a lot about our ergonomics. :(
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598. # [04:30] <@dolske> every time I see it, I cry and save the tear in a bottle.
599. # [04:31] <kk1fff> dolske: thanks!
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601. # [04:31] <@dolske> I share them periodically. http://www.flickr.com/photos/donotlick/5551523655/
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603. # [04:33] <abr> dolske -- nice bottle, but I have to say it's your shirt that impresses me the most. I love the design on that one.
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609. # [04:34] <@dolske> that's the FF4 Beta shirt
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613. # [04:35] <abr> It's pretty much all new to me -- I'm only three months with Mozilla so far. :)
614. # [04:36] <Waldo> abr: welcome! first thing to learn is to ignore dolske; second thing to learn is to ignore me
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618. # [04:37] <Waldo> and I see you have already learned the second lesson :-D
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621. # [04:39] * @bz thought the first thing to learn was the thing about touching things
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623. # [04:40] <Waldo> that's a good 'un too
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625. # [04:41] <bjacob> njn: jlebar|away: woohoo, looking at my first B2G refgraph dump thanks to piggybacking on jlebar|away's get_about_memory code
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650. # [04:58] <cjones> bz, i think i got the answer to my question, thanks
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654. # [05:02] <Callek> wow JUST learned of "Responsive Design View" of the devtools
655. # [05:02] <Callek> these teams are frakking awesome
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657. # [05:03] <@bz> cjones: ok, good
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705. # [05:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62e53c789ae8 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 833151 - Avoid unnecessary copy of CompileOptions. r=benjamin.
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725. # [06:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82464c35d37a - Mark Hammond - Bug 808215 - Disable social API in private windows for per-window Private Browsing builds. r=jaws
726. # [06:17] * philor wonders who would be willing to get hired to file randomorange bugs
727. # [06:18] <kk1fff> dolske: target of DOMWindowCreated looks like to be a nsIDOMDocument... and it cannot be QI to nsIInterfaceRequestor :(
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733. # [06:20] <philor> zoos don't let their chimps take outside jobs, do they?
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740. # [06:29] <Mook> kk1fff: event.target.defaultView.QueryInterface(blah)?
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742. # [06:32] * njn just learned about GDB checkpoints, and got excited, until...
743. # [06:32] <njn> checkpoint: can't checkpoint multiple threads.
744. # [06:32] <njn> bah
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749. # [06:39] <kk1fff> Mook: Thanks for responding :) Looks nice! I will try this. Thank you!
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752. # [06:41] <kk1fff> Mook: cool. it works. thanks.
753. # [06:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b40c68814cd6 - Cervantes Yu - Bug 833606: Null check mProxy in mozilla::dom::ContentPermissionRequestParent::ActorDestroy(). r=bent a=blocking-b2g
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774. # [06:59] <philor> so, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/test/test_bug582412-1.html?force=1
775. # [06:59] <philor> a form test claiming to be for a different bug than the one it was for
776. # [06:59] <philor> how does that crash [@ non-virtual thunk to nsPrintSession::QueryInterface(nsID const&, void**) + 0xcd099]?
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778. # [07:00] <philor> what is mac_plugin_interposing_child_OnShowCursor, and why is it the only other thing in the stack?
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782. # [07:03] <JonathanS> philor http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/dom/plugins/ipc/interpose/plugin_child_interpose.mm.html
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784. # [07:03] <@dolske> I was _just_ going to write "someday someone will answer philor's questions and he will be shocked."
785. # [07:04] <philor> still waiting
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787. # [07:06] <JonathanS> Quick Draw :)
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790. # [07:09] <philor> markh: guess what?
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794. # [07:18] <markh> offs
795. # [07:18] <markh> oh ffs :)
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797. # [07:19] <philor> actually, my very first guess for the meaning of "offs" was exactly that
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799. # [07:19] <markh> :) I'll back it out
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801. # [07:20] <markh> philor: actually, it's just a dumb test and I'll push a test-only followup if that's ok with you?
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803. # [07:24] <philor> markh: fine by me, I hate the look of backing out a rename so I wasn't in any rush to take it out
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824. # [07:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82219f1a9fe6 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 826977 - Part 3/4: fix all related components as well. r=hsinyi
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826. # [07:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3117829e1b12 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 826977 - Part 4/4: fix voicemail test cases. r=hsinyi
827. # [07:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef7b5b52ce92 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 826977 - Part 1/4: RadioInterfaceLayer is no longer managed by SystemWorkerManager. New interface. r=qDot
828. # [07:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c0b0e94b597 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 826977 - Part 2/4: SystemWorkerManager & RadionInterfaceLayer changes. r=qDot
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830. # [07:43] <markh> bugger - there was also a regression in the patch, so backed it out
831. # [07:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09ebdefa8c78 - Mark Hammond - Backout 82464c35d37a (Bug 808215) for a regression and test failures.
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833. # [07:46] <markh> philor: even starred the currently finished test failures it caused :)
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835. # [07:46] <philor> sweet
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840. # [07:50] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/happy-bmo-push-day-27/
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860. # [08:13] <markh> the "needinfo" bmo release!
861. # [08:13] <glob> markh, wasn't designed that way, but, yeah :)
862. # [08:14] <markh> and the prize for the most uses of needinfo in a single bug goes to "[833336] Needinfo tries to match the needinfo user even when you decided you didn’t need info"
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885. # [08:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0eda7bbdfedf - EKR - Bug 786236: Per-context configurable STUN servers. r=abr
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937. # [09:26] <justdave> Nightly seems to beachball on me a lot, without using excessive memory or CPU at the time. What's a good way to debug?
938. # [09:27] <justdave> I'm running a DMD build if it helps (or accounts for it)
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942. # [09:29] <justdave> bet that does account for it. "The browser will run a little slower than usual." on the DMD page :)
943. # [09:29] <justdave> unfortunately the thing I installed DMD in order to debug hasn't recurred since I installed it
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947. # [09:30] <past> using the profiler should shed some light on the beachballing
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982. # [10:05] <@smaug> why oh why --rebase doesn't work these days
983. # [10:05] <@smaug> it was some silly change to hg
984. # [10:05] <Ms2ger> I thought you didn't use mq?
985. # [10:05] <@smaug> hg pull --rebase
986. # [10:06] <@smaug> not sure if that is still "part of mq"
987. # [10:06] <Ms2ger> Does it do anything else than hg pull if you don't have local commits?
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989. # [10:07] <@smaug> in that case it is just pull
990. # [10:07] <@smaug> (pull -u)
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994. # [10:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0a453067b5de - Olli Pettay - Bug 830975, make sure to flush all the documents, yet keep the no-flush-needed case fast, r=mccr8,f=bz,a=abillings
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996. # [10:16] <glandium> Standard8: ping
997. # [10:16] <Standard8> glandium: pong
998. # [10:17] <glandium> Standard8: have you taken a look at the xpcshell oranges on tb-trunk? i wonder if they are my due or if they are unrelated
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1001. # [10:19] <Standard8> glandium: only in so much as to know they are there
1002. # [10:20] <Standard8> I was getting that other patch pushed first so that I could check where its at
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1005. # [10:20] <glandium> Standard8: you also need to sync build/macosx/universal/mozconfig.common
1006. # [10:20] <glandium> that's the reason why fedora builds are orange
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1009. # [10:21] <Standard8> yeah, that's in that bug I just pushed
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1011. # [10:21] <glandium> ah true
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1013. # [10:22] * Standard8 tries to remember where mail views come from
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1019. # [10:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/481124f1a662 - Olli Pettay - Bug 761448, be more strict when to allow docshell loads, r=bz, a=akeybl
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1022. # [10:26] <Standard8> glandium: we're still running off package-manifest.in right?
1023. # [10:26] <glandium> Standard8: yes
1024. # [10:26] <glandium> Standard8: that much didn't change
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1028. # [10:27] <Standard8> glandium: ok, I'm currently suspecting mailViews.dat is missing (http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/extensions/mailviews/content/Makefile.in) just looking for a tinderbox build to download
1029. # [10:28] <Standard8> ooh nice tbpl
1030. # [10:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8f4c3163cd9 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 819871 - Make ":-moz-placeholder" parsable but without any effect on styling. r=dbaron,bz
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1032. # [10:31] <Standard8> glandium: oh http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/installer/Makefile.in#73
1033. # [10:31] * @smaug kicks Thunderbird. It randomly loses tabs
1034. # [10:31] <Standard8> that's not having an affect
1035. # [10:32] <Standard8> heh
1036. # [10:32] * Standard8 thinks it got removed
1037. # [10:33] <glandium> Standard8: oh
1038. # [10:34] <glandium> Standard8: btw, there are typos and missing files in package-manifest.in
1039. # [10:34] <jandem> can I use mach to rebuild only files in a specific directory? (js/src/jsd in this case)
1040. # [10:34] <Standard8> yeah, I spotted some of them
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1042. # [10:35] <glandium> jandem: i'm not sure it supports that yet
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1044. # [10:35] <glandium> Standard8: let me file a bug for that NON_OMNIJAR_FILES thing
1045. # [10:35] * Standard8 wonders why cloudFileAccounts.js is missing on linux
1046. # [10:36] <jandem> glandium: hm, a wiki page suggests running "make" in objdir/js/src/jsd but that compiles nothing
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1050. # [10:38] <glandium> jandem: it's js/jsd nowadays
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1052. # [10:39] <jandem> glandium: sorry, I think that's what I used. But now I get a compile error, so it seems to do something… thanks
1053. # [10:40] <Standard8> glandium: any idea why bug 816576 didn't add libsoundtouch to removed-files.in, was that because it was never shipped?
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1055. # [10:41] <glandium> Standard8: yes
1056. # [10:42] <Ms2ger> jandem, there's a patch for that, but it got r-
1057. # [10:43] <jandem> Ms2ger: aha. What do the DOM people etc usually do? "make" in the right directory?
1058. # [10:43] <Ms2ger> Yeah
1059. # [10:43] <NeilAway> mounir: is it worth logging/telemetry for ignored selectors?
1060. # [10:44] <Ms2ger> Though I'm lazy and usually do just ./mach build lately
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1076. # [10:59] <Yoric> Do we have a simple way of showing the fps count?
1077. # [11:00] <Yoric> Ah, pcwalton has written an add-on.
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1079. # [11:01] <Yoric> ... for ff4
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1089. # [11:05] <Yoric> Ah, mozPaintCount
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1092. # [11:07] <MrDHat> I want to contribute to the Open Badges project
1093. # [11:08] <MrDHat> What are the technoligies i must know?
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1102. # [11:14] * @smaug wishes layout/gfx folks could improve text layout perf, or make some parts of it async
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1105. # [11:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b994afc368df - Mark Hammond - Bug 808215 - Disable social API in private windows for per-window Private Browsing builds. r=jaws,mixedpuppy
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1108. # [11:18] <@smaug> >40% somewhere under gfxHarfBuzzShaper::ShapeText
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1117. # [11:29] <Yoric> MrDHat: I'm no specialist, but I suspect that's Python.
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1120. # [11:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f0e88c3339b - Ken Chang - Bug 834118 - B2G CDMA: Add CDMA network type in the function of setting preferred network type. r=hsinyi
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1122. # [11:31] <MrDHat> Yoric: The github repo says it JavaScript
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1125. # [11:31] <Yoric> MrDHat: Ok, my bad.
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1133. # [11:40] <glandium> smaug: i don't know if that's related, but things like NSPR_LOG_MODULES=textrunui:5 is showing a lot of redundant work
1134. # [11:40] <@smaug> redundant ?
1135. # [11:41] <@smaug> glandium: in logs? or in general?
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1137. # [11:43] <glandium> smaug: like 29 times the log "(textrunui) fontgroup: ["Sans"] lang: en-us script: 25 len 17 weight: 400 width: 0 style: normal TEXTRUN [Know your rights…] ENDTEXTRUN" when starting an aurora build with a fresh profile
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1139. # [11:44] <glandium> 17 times for TEXTRUN [K] ENDTEXTRUN
1140. # [11:44] <glandium> 12 for TEXTRUN [Bookmarks] ENDTEXTRUN
1141. # [11:44] <glandium> etc.
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1143. # [11:44] <glandium> i was meaning to file a bug... let's just do it now
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1146. # [11:45] <@smaug> I filed Bug 834184, which is very vague
1147. # [11:45] <Ms2ger> glandium, do you know why we have both http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/Makefile.in#241 and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/toolkit-makefiles.sh#1516 ?
1148. # [11:46] <glandium> Ms2ger: yes i know
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1150. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Do you also want to enlighten me?
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1152. # [11:50] <whimboo> smaug: looks like i have to go with all addons disabled. i still can't stop fx to leak
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1154. # [11:51] <@smaug> whimboo: so are you sure there is a leak? Is this about the vmware bug?
1155. # [11:51] <whimboo> smaug: no. then jenkins page
1156. # [11:51] <whimboo> i kept it open all the time
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1158. # [11:51] <@smaug> so does jenkins keep everything alive
1159. # [11:52] <whimboo> well, closing the tab doens't return the memory
1160. # [11:52] <@smaug> hmm
1161. # [11:52] <whimboo> it might still be that an extension holds a reference
1162. # [11:52] <@roc> haha
1163. # [11:52] <glandium> Ms2ger: it's like the rule to regenerate Makefiles
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1165. # [11:52] <Ms2ger> Just an optimization?
1166. # [11:52] <whimboo> smaug: i will watch it today with all extensions disabled
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1168. # [11:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7227a6cb2e2e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 833396 - Fix some rooting issues found by static analysis r=sphink
1169. # [11:53] <@smaug> whimboo: yeah, that would be good
1170. # [11:53] <@roc> Anne proposes overloading the 'src' attribute, Jonas is against it, a year later I re-propose it as srcObject. Anne thinks that's ironic.
1171. # [11:53] <glandium> Ms2ger: you can call it like that. it's to recreate the file without running configure
1172. # [11:53] <gaston> damn
1173. # [11:53] <@smaug> roc: I don't see anything ironic in that :)
1174. # [11:53] <@roc> I had originally made it 'src', Adam Barth argued me into making it srcObject, quoting Anne to support his argument. Doubly ironic!
1175. # [11:53] <gaston> how can i remove tags from a local checkout
1176. # [11:53] * Ms2ger tries to figure out why it suddenly broke gps's patches
1177. # [11:53] <gaston> without having them showing up in the history ?
1178. # [11:54] <@smaug> I'd prefer srcObject
1179. # [11:54] <@roc> good, because we've already shipped it
1180. # [11:54] <gaston> (ie ditching the tags commit)
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1182. # [11:55] <@roc> I think this is hilarious, which is itself kind of sad
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1185. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> roc, oh well, everyone's on the same page now :)
1186. # [11:57] <@roc> Microsoft still doesn't like it and I'm not sure Ian does either
1187. # [11:58] <Ms2ger> Ian didn't like main either
1188. # [11:58] <Ms2ger> On another note...
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1190. # [11:59] <@roc> a question about Web Audio?
1191. # [11:59] <Ms2ger> I've got a set of patches to update our test_canvas.html to the more recent versions in the HTML TS
1192. # [11:59] <Ms2ger> Do you happen to have a reviewer for that? :)
1193. # [12:00] <Ms2ger> No more than 50 patches at this point :)
1194. # [12:00] <@roc> Matt Woodrow, but he's overworked
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1196. # [12:01] <@roc> George Wright perhaps?
1197. # [12:01] <Ms2ger> The fugitive?
1198. # [12:01] <Yoric> Performance of canvas worries me a little.
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1201. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> Hi Yoric, we're always looking for canvas hackers ;)
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1203. # [12:02] <Yoric> :)
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1206. # [12:03] <@roc> Matt is working on QuartzGL canvas, George on SkiaGL for Android/B2G/Linux
1207. # [12:04] <Ms2ger> http://i.qkme.me/353xnp.jpg
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1216. # [12:10] <glandium> Standard8: could you run the patch for bug 834176 through try?
1217. # [12:11] <Standard8> glandium: sure
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1219. # [12:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d9481837500 - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 827831 - Part 2: [B2G STK]: Support variable timeout for GET INKEY. r=allstars.chh
1220. # [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/781a5c27a1e5 - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 827831 - Part 1: [B2G STK]: Decode Comprehension-TLV tag Duration, to support variable timeout for GET INKEY. r=allstars.chh sr=sicking
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1222. # [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8370a0b60561 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 827831 - Part 3: [B2G STK]: Marionette test case. r=allstars.chh
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1229. # [12:16] <Yoric> Mmmhh...
1230. # [12:16] <Yoric> From 10fps to 60fps by deactivating "accelarated layers".
1231. # [12:16] <Standard8> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=561a1f75ed15
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1233. # [12:17] <glandium> Yoric: bwarf
1234. # [12:17] <padenot> glandium: the pref is not on by default
1235. # [12:17] <padenot> glandium: It happened to be on on my machine because I was testing something
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1237. # [12:18] <padenot> and the demo shows a solid 60fps with a default profile
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1246. # [12:23] <glandium> Standard8: that shows nothing
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1249. # [12:26] <Standard8> glandium: yeah, unfortunately TB try doesn't show pending builds
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1251. # [12:27] <glandium> Standard8: trunk looks greener already
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1254. # [12:28] <Standard8> yeah
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1256. # [12:29] <mounir> NeilAway: i guess so
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1290. # [12:56] <srishti> Hi I asked yesterday regarding the failure of firefox build on ./mach build http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2080555 , i tried again later many times make -f client.mk build is giving me the following errohttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/2082767
1291. # [12:57] <srishti> please guide me to solve it
1292. # [12:57] <padenot> srishti: remove warning-as-error from your mozconfig
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1304. # [13:07] <srishti> padenot I dont have that line in my .mozconfig file
1305. # [13:07] <srishti> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2080618
1306. # [13:07] <srishti> the above is a copy of my .mozconfgi fle
1307. # [13:09] <jdm> srishti: what happens if you remove the .mozconfig?
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1310. # [13:10] <Ms2ger> It's probably in $topsrcdir/build/mozilla/mozconfig
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1312. # [13:10] <Ms2ger> srishti, remove everything except maybe the js shell thing, if you need that
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1334. # [13:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69db50f12203 - Joel Maher - Bug 832442 - upload a new talos.zip to capture fixes for android, process crash detection and datazilla. r=kmoir
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1339. # [13:39] <glandium> Standard8: looks like it worked
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1357. # [13:55] <NeilAway> smaug: hmm, so remote events fire at the chrome element, and you're supposed to assume that they're remote because that's the target of the event?
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1361. # [13:58] <@smaug> NeilAway: in this case yes
1362. # [13:58] <@smaug> NeilAway: events are dispatched first to chrome
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1364. # [13:59] <@smaug> so if chrome wants to handle them, it can
1365. # [13:59] <@smaug> but these global key handlers are really for the child process
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1367. # [14:00] <@smaug> NeilAway: effectively we pretend that focus is in the child process if <xul:browser remote> is focused
1368. # [14:01] <@smaug> (we may have to tweak the setup at some point)
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1376. # [14:07] <darkowlzz> can anyone help me to understand what is 'table specific class names' as mentioned here, bottom https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=831533&attachment=705446
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1378. # [14:09] <@smaug> whimboo: ^
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1380. # [14:10] <darkowlzz> oh! he is here, didn't notice :D
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1384. # [14:12] <NeilAway> smaug: yeah, I was expecting some sort of magic event target whose parent is the remote browser
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1387. # [14:14] <Standard8> glandium: yep, cool
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1389. # [14:16] <whimboo> darkowlzz: in the main table we have specific classes for the columns
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1391. # [14:17] <whimboo> it would be great to see those for the lines above too
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1393. # [14:18] <jimm> ehsan: ping
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1398. # [14:22] <darkowlzz> whimboo: hi
1399. # [14:22] <bholley> ehsan: what's the right way to strlen a PRUnichar*?
1400. # [14:22] <darkowlzz> whimboo: you mean put the 'state' in the table?
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1403. # [14:24] <bholley> bsmedberg: ^^
1404. # [14:24] <NeilAway> NS_strlen
1405. # [14:24] <NeilAway> last time I looked
1406. # [14:24] <bholley> NeilAway: thanks :-)
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1408. # [14:26] <srishti> Ms2ger: I am still getting the same error, I changed my .mozconfig file as per you said but no change..
1409. # [14:26] <whimboo> darkowlzz: no, it should still be were you have put it. but just use a class like 'setAttribute("class", "enabled");'
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1411. # [14:27] <darkowlzz> whimboo: okay, so how will that class be useful? curious
1412. # [14:29] <whimboo> darkowlzz: well, it's not absolutely necessary but would make it easier for our mozmill test to get the enabled state. otherwise we would have to rely on the xth entry which can break if others get added later
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1414. # [14:31] <darkowlzz> whimboo: class name 'enabled' is fine? or 'active'?
1415. # [14:32] <whimboo> darkowlzz: the addons manager says enabled and disabled. so i would take the same wording
1416. # [14:32] <darkowlzz> but class names won't change from enabled/active to disabled/inactive when they are disabled
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1418. # [14:32] <darkowlzz> oh! perhaps some boolean behind it 1 or 0
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1421. # [14:33] <darkowlzz> okay, patch on it's way :)
1422. # [14:33] <darkowlzz> whimboo: thanks a lot :)
1423. # [14:34] <whimboo> but lets see if the reviewer is ok with it
1424. # [14:34] <whimboo> thanks for updating so far
1425. # [14:34] <darkowlzz> whimboo: he is here
1426. # [14:34] <whimboo> darkowlzz: before it lands I would like to have a tryserver build so we can update our mozmill test
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1428. # [14:35] <darkowlzz> whimboo: should I ping him and ask now? or send a patch review and wait
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1431. # [14:35] <whimboo> darkowlzz: just send a review. i have to leave in a bit
1432. # [14:36] <darkowlzz> okay :)
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1435. # [14:37] <Standard8> glandium: any ideas: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19084916&tree=Thunderbird-Trunk#error0 ?
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1437. # [14:38] <glandium> Standard8: that's weird
1438. # [14:38] <glandium> Standard8: maybe 832220 would get around it
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1440. # [14:39] <Standard8> glandium: sounds like I'd better take a look at it ;-)
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1443. # [14:41] <Standard8> glandium: do you want to land it or shall I?
1444. # [14:41] <glandium> Standard8: i don't have a comm-central tree ready for landing at hand
1445. # [14:41] <Standard8> ok, will do
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1447. # [14:41] <glandium> Standard8: but you may want to wait for gps
1448. # [14:42] <glandium> Standard8: so that he reviews my patches and i can land them on m-c
1449. # [14:42] <Standard8> glandium: that's a good point, can you ping me when you land them then?
1450. # [14:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c71ba28efaa0 - Joel Maher - Backed out changeset 69db50f12203
1451. # [14:42] <glandium> Standard8: sure
1452. # [14:42] <Standard8> thanks
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1495. # [15:08] <ekr> abr: ping
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1510. # [15:13] <glazou> so I am loading this JS inside a <xul:iframe type="chrome"> and still, a (mozIStorageConnection).createStatement() triggers a security error ; any clue ?
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1517. # [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a941576624be - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 801158 - Update ANGLE to r1561 - r=bjacob
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1545. # [15:42] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: uh, sorry... i changed that locally and didn't think about it :(
1546. # [15:42] <gfritzsche> want me to break this out in a followup?
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1569. # [16:01] <bholley> bsmedberg: nm, I got an answer
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1588. # [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d7d9fc727a2 - Raymond Lee - Bug 830703 - test_httpauth.js doesn't run. r=josh
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1590. # [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4f487741e08 - Marco Chen - Bug 827707 - [GonkSensor] Sensor field in sensors_event_t doesn't mean the index of sensors list from HAL. r=mwu
1591. # [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f84ec5f29d3c - Raymond Lee - Bug 820784 - Remove alternative add_task implementations. r=mak
1592. # [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8169a62def34 - Ken Chang - Bug 833271 - B2G CDMA: Support data call. r=vicamo
1593. # [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a6017827ba0 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 826055 - Check OMX when looking for decoders on FirefoxOS. r=bz
1594. # [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/993ff7fb860e - Jan Beich - Bug 832723 - Unbreak build on BSDs after bug 786631. r=cjones
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1606. # [16:16] <armenzg> how can I trigger a PGO build on the try server?
1607. # [16:16] <Ms2ger> Change your mozconfig
1608. # [16:16] <@ted> you can put mk_add_options MOZ_PGO=1 in your mozconfig
1609. # [16:17] <armenzg> oh great
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1611. # [16:17] <armenzg> I don't think we can get linker max vsize on the try server then
1612. # [16:18] <armenzg> because of the buildbot code
1613. # [16:18] <@ted> because you only have it set to run on PGO builds?
1614. # [16:18] <@ted> we could tweak the in-tree stuff so that it always prints out that metric
1615. # [16:18] <@ted> it just seemed pointless for non-PGO
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1617. # [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5703c2676a6e - Nathan Froyd - Bug 715376 - update MockFilePicker.init() to take a window for event dispatching purposes; r=jmaher
1618. # [16:19] <@ted> armenzg: i guess worst case we can just force PGO builds on try and scrape the logs with a script and backfill the data that way
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1620. # [16:20] <armenzg> ted: I think we could use a project branch
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1638. # [16:31] <nemo> hum. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5108312 ycombinator goes troll
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1640. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> Goes?
1641. # [16:33] <nemo> Ms2ger: I'd been really appreciating ycombinator over /. lately
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1644. # [16:33] <nemo> the SNR in the comments was excellent
1645. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Oh, heh, /.
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1650. # [16:36] <froydnj> TV static has a better SNR ratio than slashdot comments
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1659. # [16:41] <nemo> froydnj: SNR ratio is like ATM machine? :)
1660. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> You mean an automated ATM machine
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1668. # [16:44] <@ted> nemo: HN has been indistinguishable from trolls for a long time
1669. # [16:44] <ddahl_> just noticed there is no MPL header in some gaia files: http://mxr.mozilla.org/gaia/source/apps/system/js/payment.js is that ok?
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1671. # [16:45] <nemo> Ms2ger: :-p
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1674. # [16:46] <Ms2ger> ddahl_, they should have a header, afaik; it might have to be Apache instead of MPL, though
1675. # [16:46] <Ms2ger> gerv, ^
1676. # [16:46] <ddahl_> Ms2ger: apache, huh? why?
1677. # [16:46] <gerv> ddahl_: Gaia is licensed under the Apache license.
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1679. # [16:47] <ddahl_> gerv: ah.
1680. # [16:47] <Ms2ger> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774614
1681. # [16:47] <gerv> Feel free to add the appropriate header if you are editing a file.
1682. # [16:47] <ddahl_> gerv: I was not editing them, I am surprised it was checked in that way
1683. # [16:47] <Ms2ger> gerv, I guess that also means the Makefile replacements in those folders need to be Apache-licensed?
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1687. # [16:49] <glandium> armenzg: why is it not possible to import the data from the past logs?
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1692. # [16:50] <@ted> glandium: we only keep hourly build logs for 30 days
1693. # [16:50] <@ted> we could import those certainly
1694. # [16:51] <@ted> and we could scrape and import nightly builds for as long as the data exists
1695. # [16:51] <glandium> exactly
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1697. # [16:51] <philor> if by "import" you mean "rewrite graphserver"
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1699. # [16:51] <@ted> heh
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1702. # [16:52] <glandium> philor: isn't the data pushed to the graphserver?
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1704. # [16:52] <@ted> i was thinking "scrape with a script and get a DBA to manually inject SQL"
1705. # [16:52] <philor> the x axis is "time I was told about this result"
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1708. # [16:52] <glandium> philor: then setting up a project branch wouldn't solve that problem
1709. # [16:53] <glandium> and it would suck a *lot* of builder resources
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1711. # [16:54] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: np
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1713. # [16:55] <armenzg> ted: correct
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1717. # [16:57] <NeilAway> glazou: type of frame is irrelevant, but what's the scheme of the JS?
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1721. # [16:57] <jimm> armenzg: hey, what's the graphs branch/test name for your mem size data?
1722. # [16:57] <NeilAway> glazou: or more accurately, what's the principal of its channel ;-)
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1730. # [17:01] <armenzg> jimm: libxul_link
1731. # [17:01] <armenzg> there should not be any data yet
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1734. # [17:01] <jimm> ok thx
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1747. # [17:06] <@ehsan> jimm: pong
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1753. # [17:08] <@ehsan> glandium: ping
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1756. # [17:08] <glandium> ehsan: pong
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1758. # [17:09] <@ehsan> glandium: so, what did the thing that I pushed to try yesterday do?
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1761. # [17:10] <glandium> ehsan: i'm not sure
1762. # [17:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f3d5c6b932ac - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 70baa7e07838 (bug 833915) since one day has passed
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1764. # [17:11] * @ehsan looks at the full log
1765. # [17:11] <glandium> ehsan: in your log, it says it relaunches itself with -ltcg
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1767. # [17:12] <@ehsan> right
1768. # [17:12] <glandium> ehsan: otoh, what you pushed did two build passes
1769. # [17:12] <@ehsan> which is what we want
1770. # [17:12] <@ehsan> it did?
1771. # [17:12] <glandium> MOZ_PGO in mozconfig will do that
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1773. # [17:13] <jimm> ehsan: posted to one of the pgo bugs. I rna a pgo builder overnight with vs2012 and update 1, the mem use numbers didn't look good. do you still want to setup a build slave and test?
1774. # [17:13] <glandium> ehsan: we could try reproducing your build by taking my try, and removing the LDFLAGS change
1775. # [17:13] <glandium> with one build pass
1776. # [17:13] <@ehsan> glandium: hmm, so why is there only one link.py invocation in my log?
1777. # [17:13] * @ehsan is puzzled
1778. # [17:13] <jimm> ehsan: I ran a pgo *build* overnight, not a builder
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1780. # [17:13] <glandium> ehsan: because that script is run only once
1781. # [17:14] <@ehsan> jimm: how much is not good approximately?
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1784. # [17:14] <@ehsan> glandium: for which one of the two links?
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1787. # [17:14] <jimm> ehsan: on my system: 3,839,270,912 for mc tip
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1789. # [17:14] <@ehsan> hmm
1790. # [17:14] <glandium> ehsan: the one that is supposed to suck memory, the second one. So here's my theory: the second link did an incremental link, and that sucked much less memory
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1793. # [17:15] <@ehsan> jimm: that's way more than what we get on the builders... we're at 3.2 now
1794. # [17:15] <jimm> yep
1795. # [17:15] <jimm> i can get a pgo going on one of those to confirm just to be safe.
1796. # [17:15] <glandium> i'm not that surprised that a new version of msvc would suck more memory
1797. # [17:15] <glandium> gcc does the same
1798. # [17:15] <@ehsan> glandium: oh, is that because the first link didn't actually have obj files compiled with -GL?
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1800. # [17:16] <@ehsan> jimm: yeah I'd appreciate that
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1802. # [17:16] <@ehsan> glandium: yeah that's not surprising, it's just sad :(
1803. # [17:16] <glandium> ehsan: both passes build with -GL, but the second is almost a noop, since everything is likely the same
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1806. # [17:16] <glandium> ehsan: in fact, we probably even don't rebuild the objects
1807. # [17:16] <@ehsan> right
1808. # [17:17] <glandium> ehsan: so the second link doesn't have much to do: everything was done the first time
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1813. # [17:20] <@smaug> bsmedberg: want to review that one trivial patch?
1814. # [17:20] <@smaug> (I'm about to land something else, and could land that too)
1815. # [17:20] <@ehsan> glandium: according to the log, the second link _did_ some codegen...
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1818. # [17:21] <glandium> ehsan: but it probably didn't do much
1819. # [17:21] <glandium> ehsan: which would explain the difference
1820. # [17:21] <@ehsan> yeah
1821. # [17:22] <@ted> that makes sense
1822. # [17:22] <@bz> Or rather SMIME cert
1823. # [17:22] <@ted> in a PGO build the first link is just an LTCG link basically
1824. # [17:22] <@ehsan> yeah so I think the try job that you pushed is actually what we wanted to test
1825. # [17:22] <@ted> the second is LTCG but with the profiling data, so the memory usage blows up
1826. # [17:22] <@ehsan> which buys us what like 200megs?
1827. # [17:22] <@ehsan> ted: well in this case the second link didn't do much codegen at all
1828. # [17:23] <@ted> yeah
1829. # [17:23] <@ted> because it's not PGOing
1830. # [17:23] <@ehsan> ted: glandium: so I think the lesson to (re-)learn here is disabling PGO but not LTCG is not worth it
1831. # [17:23] <@ted> if it doesn't have profile data to work with it doesn't have to do all that work
1832. # [17:23] <@ted> ok
1833. # [17:23] <@ted> useful data point
1834. # [17:23] <@ehsan> which is sad news
1835. # [17:23] <@ehsan> but good to confirm
1836. # [17:23] <@ted> so our fallback position is "disable LTCG entirely"
1837. # [17:23] <@ehsan> correct
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1839. # [17:24] <@ehsan> oh well
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1841. # [17:24] <glandium> or selectively disable pgo like we do ; or, on the contrary, selectively *enable* pgo, on pieces where we know it matters
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1843. # [17:24] <@ted> didn't one of you do a try run with NO_PROFILE_GUIDED_OPTIMIZE=1 liberally sprinkled?
1844. # [17:24] <@ehsan> yeah but that's the middle ground
1845. # [17:25] <@ehsan> ted: I did a nightly with that
1846. # [17:25] <@ted> oh right
1847. # [17:25] <@ted> what was the linker memory usage on that?
1848. # [17:25] <@ted> i think we're fighting a losing war here
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1850. # [17:25] <@ehsan> linker max vsize: 109457408
1851. # [17:25] <@ted> either microsoft ships a toolchain that cross-compiles, or we disable LTCG
1852. # [17:25] <@ted> that's pretty tiny
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1854. # [17:25] <Standard8> glandium: any ideas why Error: e:\builds\moz2_slave\tb-try-c-cen-w32\build\objdir-tb\mail\installer\package-manifest:83: Missing file(s): bin/components/components.manifest would show up on a windows build when I'm testing out fatal packager.pm warnings? I thought we had to include that (which is what FF seems to do)
1855. # [17:25] * hwine is now known as hwine-ooo
1856. # [17:25] <@ehsan> but it matches the other try push that I did
1857. # [17:26] <glandium> if only MS would just build the 32-bits linker as a 64-bits executable...
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1859. # [17:26] <@ehsan> which is expected
1860. # [17:26] <@ted> glandium: yeah, but they haven't shown any indication that they're doing that
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1863. # [17:26] <@ted> someone said all their codegen bits are horrible and non-portable
1864. # [17:26] <@ehsan> glandium: word on the street is that their codebase is not 64-bit safe at all
1865. # [17:26] <@ehsan> and their 64-bit codegen comes from a separate codebase
1866. # [17:26] <glandium> ehsan: their 64-bits linker is not even sharing the same codebase?
1867. # [17:26] <gcp> I know the solution: target win64
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1869. # [17:26] <glandium> oh my
1870. # [17:26] * gcp hides quickly
1871. # [17:27] <@ted> heh
1872. # [17:27] * Ms2ger shoots gcp
1873. # [17:27] <@ted> glandium: the *linker* is fine, AIUI
1874. # [17:27] <@ehsan> glandium: that's what the rumors say
1875. # [17:27] <Ms2ger> I know where you live...
1876. # [17:27] <@ted> the problem is that for LTCG the linker does the codegen too
1877. # [17:27] <@ehsan> which perfectly explains their position
1878. # [17:27] <glandium> Standard8: O_o
1879. # [17:27] <@ehsan> ted: right
1880. # [17:27] <@ted> and the codegen is the problem
1881. # [17:27] <@ted> the linker actually has a target architecture flag
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1883. # [17:27] <@ted> spoiler: it doesn't work with LTCG
1884. # [17:27] <froydnj> heh
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1886. # [17:28] <@ehsan> yeah, that because with LTCG, their linker just dlopens the compiler dll ;)
1887. # [17:28] * jmaher|afk is now known as jmaher
1888. # [17:28] <glandium> Standard8: mmmm there just probably isn't a components.manifest on windows
1889. # [17:28] * ctalbert|afk is now known as ctalbert
1890. # [17:28] <@ted> we should just get everything building with clang on windows
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1892. # [17:28] <@ted> and also make clang's optimizer better
1893. # [17:28] <@ted> and solve world hunger and cure cancer
1894. # [17:28] <@ehsan> ted: well, we should first make clang do proper codegen
1895. # [17:28] <Optimizer> yeah, and also ping me
1896. # [17:28] <Optimizer> everytime
1897. # [17:28] <@ehsan> with the MS ABI atec
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1899. # [17:29] <@ted> Optimizer: pick a better nick, sucker
1900. # [17:29] <@ted> :-P
1901. # [17:29] <Ms2ger> Does clang have a good Optimizer?
1902. # [17:29] <@ehsan> ted: which _is_ a problem that money and time can solve ;)
1903. # [17:29] <Optimizer> its always you only
1904. # [17:29] <khuey> I hear 'luser' is available
1905. # [17:29] <@ted> khuey++
1906. # [17:29] <Ms2ger> Nicely done
1907. # [17:29] <@ehsan> khuey: well played
1908. # [17:29] <Optimizer> khuey--
1909. # [17:29] <khuey> Optimizer: :-P
1910. # [17:29] <@ted> Optimizer: all day i'm talkin 'bout compilers
1911. # [17:29] <khuey> Optimizer may not get that joke
1912. # [17:30] <Optimizer> I got it
1913. # [17:30] <khuey> ted hasn't been luser for a while
1914. # [17:30] * gavin|away is now known as gavin
1915. # [17:30] <@bsmedberg> smaug: sorry, doing no
1916. # [17:30] <@ted> ehsan: as insane as it sounded at one point, having a non-open toolchain is a real drag
1917. # [17:30] <Optimizer> oh, then i didn't
1918. # [17:30] <@bsmedberg> now
1919. # [17:30] <RyanVM> he'll always be luser in my heart
1920. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> ted wasn't even luser when I joined
1921. # [17:30] <@ted> RyanVM: brendan still calls me luser to my face occasionally
1922. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, ted's previous handle was luser
1923. # [17:30] <gcp> what'
1924. # [17:30] <Optimizer> ah :D
1925. # [17:30] <gcp> what's the issue with mingw btw?
1926. # [17:30] <khuey> mingw sucks
1927. # [17:30] <@ehsan> ted: tell me about it :(
1928. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> ted, well, Mielczarek is hard to pronounce...
1929. # [17:30] * padenot|away is now known as padenot
1930. # [17:30] <@ted> Ms2ger: hah
1931. # [17:31] <khuey> Ms2ger: it's really not
1932. # [17:31] <@ted> gcp: then you're using GCC
1933. # [17:31] <@ted> mill-char-ick
1934. # [17:31] <@ted> say it with me
1935. # [17:31] <@bsmedberg> does anyone know if clang wants to use a MSVC-compatible ABI on Windows?
1936. # [17:31] <Ms2ger> Sounds like I pronounced it right, then
1937. # [17:31] <nemo> I had to quit the mer irc channel due to a bot who kept announcing commits to
1938. # [17:31] <nemo> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo
1939. # [17:31] <@bsmedberg> Or whether this would be a Mozilla-only effort?
1940. # [17:31] <@ehsan> ted: oh it's that easy?
1941. # [17:31] <@ted> ehsan: yup
1942. # [17:31] <khuey> the trickiest part is not pronouncing the 'czar' bit like czar
1943. # [17:31] <@ehsan> poor spelling choices man ;)
1944. # [17:31] <froydnj> bsmedberg: there is interest, definitely
1945. # [17:31] <nemo> I guess I could have added the bot to ignore, but I was only on there for some rpi stuff anyway :)
1946. # [17:31] <gcp> ted: and that's bad, why? dll interop?
1947. # [17:31] <@ted> gcp: because GCC is a PITA :)
1948. # [17:31] <Ms2ger> khuey, how do you pronounce czar?
1949. # [17:32] <khuey> and because GCC's code sucks
1950. # [17:32] <@ted> and people are less willing to hack on things to make them better
1951. # [17:32] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: define wants. they'd definitely take patches, but not a lot of people are interested in writing them
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1953. # [17:32] <froydnj> gcp: GCC does the calling convention correctly, but not things like vtable layout
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1955. # [17:32] <khuey> Ms2ger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ru-tsar.ogg
1956. # [17:32] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: Clang has MSVC-compatible ABI as a goal
1957. # [17:32] <jcranmer> but it's not there yet
1958. # [17:32] <@ted> i know my pronunciation of my last name is right because that's how everyone in Poland pronounced it when i was there
1959. # [17:32] <jcranmer> and Win32 is an underdeveloped platform
1960. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> khuey, ah, you guys just spell it weirdly, then
1961. # [17:33] <khuey> ted: haha
1962. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> Why not write tsar like everyone else...
1963. # [17:33] <khuey> because this is America damnit
1964. # [17:33] <khuey> we speak American here
1965. # [17:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf2a37861425 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 833863 - Don't install js/src/ds/SplayTree.h, put MFBT first in the js/src/Makefile.in VPATH, r=khuey
1966. # [17:33] * mak|afk is now known as mak
1967. # [17:33] <froydnj> gcp: name mangling, parsing windows headers, etc. etc.
1968. # [17:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70c64112a171 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 827596 - assert at runtime if we try to assign to a nsAutoPtr which already contains the identical pointer, r=dbaron
1969. # [17:34] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: is that the only weird english spelling you can think of?
1970. # [17:34] <@ehsan> through, any one?
1971. # [17:34] <@ehsan> knife?
1972. # [17:34] <@ted> 'MERICA
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1974. # [17:34] <@ehsan> and dom
1975. # [17:34] <@ehsan> don't get me started on throughout!
1976. # [17:35] <gcp> froydnj: headers shouldn't be an issue as they already have replacement headers for most. but I admit I never compiled a DirectX app with it. And vtable would likely screw dlls and so.
1977. # [17:35] <glandium> speaking of name pronounciations, ehsan, how do you pronounce yours?
1978. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> eh-san?
1979. # [17:35] <@bsmedberg> ted: should we retrigger mac nightlies so that we have good symbols?
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1981. # [17:35] <@ehsan> eh-san, with the h pronounced
1982. # [17:35] <@ted> bsmedberg: glandium needs to sanity check his patch first
1983. # [17:35] <JosiahOne> Umm… I think I missed something. Why are you arguing over ehsan's name?
1984. # [17:35] <@ehsan> but not stressed
1985. # [17:36] <glandium> ehsan: your last name
1986. # [17:36] <khuey> I feel like someone should make a joke about ehsan being in canada now
1987. # [17:36] <@ted> bsmedberg: probably not a bad idea, since we're missing 2 days of symbols
1988. # [17:36] <@ehsan> oh that's more challenging
1989. # [17:36] <@ehsan> glandium: do you know how "kh" is pronounced?
1990. # [17:36] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, from Mielczarek to Akhgari, why not?
1991. # [17:36] <@ehsan> it's not a consonant in english
1992. # [17:36] <glandium> ehsan: yeah
1993. # [17:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77decfab4a64 - Joel Maher - Bug 832442 - upload a new talos.zip to capture fixes for android, process crash detection and datazilla. r=kmoir
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1995. # [17:36] <@ted> we should require everyone to put a recording of themselves pronouncing their name on their mozillians profile
1996. # [17:37] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: I guess.
1997. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> Objection!
1998. # [17:37] <@ehsan> alright, then, akh-ga-ri, again no stresses anywhere in the word
1999. # [17:37] <@ehsan> ted: seconded
2000. # [17:37] <@ted> didn't Gijs have a wav file of himself pronouncing his name somewhere?
2001. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> ehsan, denied!
2002. # [17:37] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: overruled!
2003. # [17:37] <@ehsan> I win
2004. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> Dammit
2005. # [17:37] <@ehsan> ted: yeah he did
2006. # [17:37] * @ehsan should do that too
2007. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> Gijs is simple
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2009. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> g-ij-s
2010. # [17:37] <@ehsan> I can even play it through web audio real soon!
2011. # [17:37] <@ted> Ms2ger: you will finally have to reveal whether it's "mizz-two-jer" or "message-two-ger"
2012. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> Messenger, clearly
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2014. # [17:38] <@ted> what
2015. # [17:38] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: oh, what was your first name again?
2016. # [17:38] <khuey> why can't it be em-es-two-jer?
2017. # [17:38] <glandium> or M.S.-two-ger
2018. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hunter2
2019. # [17:38] <@ehsan> oh well, I had to try :(
2020. # [17:38] <khuey> your name is *******?
2021. # [17:38] <glandium> khuey: that's my password !
2022. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> khuey, do you get why I use a nickname now?
2023. # [17:39] <ddahl_> I bet Ms2ger is Bill Gates trying to reverse all the damage he's done;)
2024. # [17:39] <khuey> not really, no
2025. # [17:39] <mconnor> ddahl_: pretty sure he's on that tack already
2026. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> ddahl_, yeah, when I'm not curing malaria ;)
2027. # [17:39] * AutomatedTester is now known as AutomatedTester|away
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2029. # [17:39] * khuey remembers that he needs to go digging through the committers agreement file
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2031. # [17:39] <khuey> to find Ms2ger's agreement
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2033. # [17:39] <ddahl_> Ms2ger: lulz
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2035. # [17:39] * Ms2ger is glad he already placed that booby trap
2036. # [17:39] <jcranmer> ted: the problem is most people can't spell my name in the first place
2037. # [17:39] <@ehsan> khuey: take pictures
2038. # [17:39] <JosiahOne> khuey: He probably signed it Ms2ger.
2039. # [17:40] <JosiahOne> :)
2040. # [17:40] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, what's hard about Cranmer?
2041. # [17:40] * cmcavoy is now known as cmcavoy-offline
2042. # [17:40] <@ted> jcranmer: your name is some sort of optical illusion
2043. # [17:40] <ddahl_> khuey: DON'T OPEN THE PANDORA's BOX
2044. # [17:40] <jcranmer> if they could spell it correctly, they would pronounce it correctly
2045. # [17:40] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
2046. # [17:40] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: I honestly don't know, but the `nm' is very commonly corrupted by people
2047. # [17:40] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: Isn't it cran-mer?
2048. # [17:40] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: that is correct
2049. # [17:40] <JosiahOne> Yeah!
2050. # [17:40] <@ted> JosiahOne: i assume people misread it as "Cramer"
2051. # [17:40] <@ted> which would be a more common surname
2052. # [17:40] <kmoir_buildduty> jimm: I'll go login as Administrator on that slave and install VS
2053. # [17:40] <JosiahOne> ted: That's rue.
2054. # [17:41] <jcranmer> Cramner is actually more common than "Cramer"
2055. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, strange... Though I also fail to understand how people end up with Msg2ger
2056. # [17:41] <@ted> really
2057. # [17:41] <@ted> weird
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2059. # [17:41] <jimm> kmoir_buildduty: ok, I'll log off. the files are in /c/temp
2060. # [17:41] <@ted> msg2gsm
2061. # [17:41] <jcranmer> now, if I were in England, people probably wouldn't have problems with my name
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2063. # [17:41] <JosiahOne> Actually, most people can't pronounce my name right.
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2065. # [17:41] <gcp> and English-speaking people chop mine up
2066. # [17:41] <JosiahOne> They think it's Hosiah or something?
2067. # [17:42] <kmoir_buildduty> jimm: okay
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2069. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> gcp, do tell, how do you pronounce yours?
2070. # [17:42] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: It's a fact, we Americans are lazy speakers.
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2073. # [17:42] <Standard8> glandium: interesting, I don't think http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/installer/Makefile.in#19 is getting set for FF
2074. # [17:42] <gcp> Ms2ger: pretty much like Jean
2075. # [17:42] <Standard8> it doesn't actually matter atm
2076. # [17:43] <gcp> Ms2ger: but you don't cut it off to Jean
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2078. # [17:43] <glandium> Standard8: it is
2079. # [17:43] <gcp> Ms2ger: of course if I say it here in Belgium everyone actually writes Jean instead of Gian
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2081. # [17:43] * @ted is glad he managed to derail all of #developers
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2083. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> gcp, cut it off?
2084. # [17:44] <JosiahOne> gcp: Oh, and can see how that would be difficult.
2085. # [17:44] <Standard8> glandium: I just pulled this out of one of the FF logs http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2083118
2086. # [17:44] <@ted> although i guess it's really Ms2ger's fault
2087. # [17:44] <@ted> as uaual
2088. # [17:44] <@ted> usual
2089. # [17:44] <gcp> Ms2ger: Gian instead of Gian-Carlo
2090. # [17:44] <Standard8> glandium: oh wait, ignore me
2091. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> Ah
2092. # [17:44] <JosiahOne> gcp: I would say Gian as Guy-an
2093. # [17:44] <gcp> If you're an american, imagine you're called Bob Junior and everyone calls you Junior.
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2095. # [17:44] <@ted> that happens all the time
2096. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> How did you guess?!
2097. # [17:45] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger's name is really Bob Junior.
2098. # [17:45] <@ted> Ms2Jr
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2100. # [17:45] <Standard8> glandium: although that log is a good example about not complaining about components.manifest
2101. # [17:45] <khuey> ted++
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2104. # [17:45] <JosiahOne> ted: Lol.
2105. # [17:46] <Ms2ger> ted, and don't worry about derailing, it's Friday
2106. # [17:46] <Ms2ger> ...somewhere
2107. # [17:46] <jdm> hA
2108. # [17:46] <glandium> Standard8: because there is one for the browser component ; mail probably doesn't have a binary component
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2110. # [17:47] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: MStery 2 Jr.
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2112. # [17:47] <JosiahOne> MyStery 2 Jr. I mean.
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2114. # [17:47] <glandium> Standard8: i have a mail build here, on linux, the only things in components.manifest are binary-component libmozgnome.so and binary-component libdbusservice.so
2115. # [17:47] <glandium> Standard8: none of which exist on windows
2116. # [17:47] * Ms2ger passes a cookie to JonathanS
2117. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> Gah
2118. # [17:48] * Ms2ger passes another cookie to JosiahOne
2119. # [17:48] * NeilAway wonders which one Ms2ger spat on first
2120. # [17:48] <JosiahOne> Why thank you… I think...
2121. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: ping
2122. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, yours
2123. # [17:48] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, pong!
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2125. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: I'm reading the about:plugins patch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=705855&action=edit now
2126. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> and I don't understand the "stateNames" map
2127. # [17:49] <JosiahOne> Yea! My cookie is edible!
2128. # [17:49] <@bsmedberg> it looks like the keys are string keys
2129. # [17:49] * JosiahOne Is still hesitant to eat it.
2130. # [17:49] <@bsmedberg> and they should be integer keys, right?
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2132. # [17:49] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, I had that doubt, so I implemented it using switch in one of the earlier patches
2133. # [17:50] <JosiahOne> spohl: Ping.
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2135. # [17:50] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, so what can be done?
2136. # [17:50] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: it doesn't work the way its written now, does it?
2137. # [17:50] <@bsmedberg> it's
2138. # [17:51] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, it works for normal enabled and disabled ones, not sure about the blocklisted ones
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2141. # [17:51] <darkowlzz> cpeterson tested it and said, it works
2142. # [17:52] <Standard8> glandium: yep, quite right, thanks
2143. # [17:52] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, shall I switch back to switch?
2144. # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: 'sec, I'm commenting
2145. # [17:52] <darkowlzz> okay
2146. # [17:52] <glandium> Standard8: note the warnings you're trying to fix are not new
2147. # [17:52] <spohl> JosiahOne: pong
2148. # [17:52] <jdm> darkowlzz: are you sure you submitted the patch that you tested?
2149. # [17:53] <JosiahOne> spohl: Did you read my latest comment on bug 678392?
2150. # [17:53] <jdm> I don't see how the patch attached can work for enabled and disabled plugins.
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2154. # [17:53] <Standard8> glandium: yeah, I'm getting there ;-)
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2158. # [17:55] <darkowlzz> jdm, why, what's wrong?
2159. # [17:56] <jdm> darkowlzz: your state key names are literally "Ci.nsIFoo.something"
2160. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> jdm: we just discussed this ;-)
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2162. # [17:56] <jdm> if you retrieve the value from stateName via Ci.nsIFoo.something, you're going to end up looking in stateName[1] instead
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2176. # [17:59] <bholley> bz: yt?
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2178. # [17:59] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, saw your comment. The forEach loop will automatically map to corresponding labels, right?
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2180. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: it should, but you can always test it
2181. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> I wrote it basically untested
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2184. # [18:00] <darkowlzz> I will test it, right now
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2187. # [18:02] <RyanVM> jgilbert: ping
2188. # [18:02] <we11ington> In JavaScript, we can check if we're on an image document by doing "content.document instanceof ImageDocument", is there an equivalent for VideoDocuments?
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2190. # [18:03] <we11ington> The obvious "instanceof VideoDocument" didn't work, VideoDocument wasn't defined there
2191. # [18:03] <we11ington> (By JavaScript, I'm thinking of browser.js)
2192. # [18:03] <@bz> bholley: let's say yes
2193. # [18:03] <@bz> we11ington: I would not depend on that behavior
2194. # [18:03] <bholley> bz: so, bug 833412 comment 8
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2196. # [18:04] <@bz> we11ington: If you really need this stuff, add something on windowutils
2197. # [18:04] <we11ington> bz: Do you have a suggestion? I'm working on gestures for synthetic documents, need to do them only for images and videos
2198. # [18:04] <bholley> bz: I spent about half an hour this morning trying to get those tests to pass with a style rule
2199. # [18:04] <bholley> bz: I couldn't get it to work
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2201. # [18:04] <@bz> erm
2202. # [18:04] <bholley> bz: I'm happy to dig in if you're willing to help, or I'm happy to just not spend any more time on it
2203. # [18:04] <@bz> I didn't get mail for that bug?
2204. # [18:04] <bholley> bz: up to you
2205. # [18:04] <@bz> Oh, there was no mail to get. ;)
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2207. # [18:05] <@bz> I'd like us to do the style rule thing if we can
2208. # [18:05] <@bz> let's pick a test and just do it
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2210. # [18:05] <bholley> bz: ok, let me fire it up again and I'll pastebin the diff
2211. # [18:05] <bholley> bz: 2 min
2212. # [18:06] <@bz> er, wait
2213. # [18:06] <Ms2ger> we11ington, do you need to know video in particular or just any resource document?
2214. # [18:06] <@bz> no, go ahead
2215. # [18:06] * @bz reads test again
2216. # [18:06] <we11ington> Ms2ger: In this case, specifically images or video, nothing else
2217. # [18:06] <Ms2ger> we11ington, and plugins?
2218. # [18:06] <we11ington> No plugins
2219. # [18:06] <we11ington> So, not just any synthetic doc
2220. # [18:06] <Ms2ger> Hmm
2221. # [18:06] <RyanVM> bjacob: ping
2222. # [18:07] <Ms2ger> we11ington, mozSyntheticDocument and check document.body.firstElementChild.localName? :)
2223. # [18:08] <we11ington> Ms2ger: Seems a little hackey, don't you think?
2224. # [18:08] <Ms2ger> we11ington, a little :)
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2226. # [18:08] <@bz> How about you add an API like I said? ;0
2227. # [18:08] <@bz> er, ;)
2228. # [18:08] <@bz> Seriously.
2229. # [18:09] * @bz does not want us adding any more stupid dependencies like that
2230. # [18:09] <mbrubeck> What's with all the "Try 6: Server returned 404" red on Try pushes like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=16c12be37aea ?
2231. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> So, yeah, listen to bz
2232. # [18:09] <bholley> bz: ok, here's the first one: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2083161
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2234. # [18:09] <we11ington> bz: Yeah, I'm just brand new to this and totally unfamiliar with WindowUtils
2235. # [18:09] <bholley> bz: doesn't work
2236. # [18:09] <bholley> bz: lastContentType is still SUBDOCUMENT
2237. # [18:10] <Callek> armenzg: is mbrubeck's red due to something you know about?
2238. # [18:10] <bholley> bz: anything look obviously wrong there?
2239. # [18:10] * Callek suspects yes, just wants to be helpful
2240. # [18:10] <mbrubeck> thanks Callek
2241. # [18:10] <@bz> bholley: Thinking
2242. # [18:10] * bholley logs more in the observer
2243. # [18:10] <@bz> bholley: Yes
2244. # [18:10] * armenzg checks
2245. # [18:10] <mbrubeck> I got that on an earlier push, saw it affected several others but that later pushes were green so I thought it was an infra problem that had gone away
2246. # [18:10] <mbrubeck> but it seems to have come back later
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2248. # [18:10] <@bz> bholley: You need to switch the offsetLeft get and the appendChild call
2249. # [18:11] <@bz> bholley: start there and see if that helps?
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2252. # [18:11] <@bz> bholley: (trying to style things not in the document only works so well)
2253. # [18:11] <bholley> bz: still doesn't
2254. # [18:11] <@bz> Also...
2255. # [18:11] <@bz> Append it to $("test"), not to content
2256. # [18:11] <@bz> Because content has display: none
2257. # [18:12] <bjacob> RyanVM: pong
2258. # [18:13] <RyanVM> bjacob: looks like the ANGLE update has some orange on xp
2259. # [18:13] <RyanVM> bjacob: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19092777&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2260. # [18:13] <bholley> bz: that did it
2261. # [18:13] <@bz> bholley: excellent.
2262. # [18:13] <@bz> bholley: next test? ;)
2263. # [18:13] <bjacob> RyanVM: oh, that is actually a good news
2264. # [18:13] <bjacob> RyanVM: unexpected-pass
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2266. # [18:14] <bjacob> RyanVM: i can make a quick follow-up to remove this expected-to-fail marker
2267. # [18:14] <bholley> bz: let me apply your suggestions here to that one. Sec
2268. # [18:14] <@bz> bholley: ok
2269. # [18:14] <@bz> Hmm
2270. # [18:14] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, that works
2271. # [18:14] <@bz> So if I have a certificate in Firefox or tbird
2272. # [18:14] <bjacob> RyanVM: did you try jgilbert though? it's his push :)
2273. # [18:14] <@bz> how do I export the public key?
2274. # [18:14] <bjacob> jgilbert: ^
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2276. # [18:15] <armenzg> ctalbert: jgriffin I think we should have a gaia-central tbpl page
2277. # [18:16] <jgriffin> yes we definitely should
2278. # [18:16] <jgriffin> it's the only way we'll eventually be able to make sense out of these tests
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2280. # [18:16] <@bz> Ah, here we g
2281. # [18:16] <@bz> er,go
2282. # [18:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1a3f731ae54a - Olli Pettay - Bug 831421 - Arrow keys are broken in test-ipc.xul, r=neil
2283. # [18:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/689690a17de3 - Olli Pettay - Bug 833143 - Don't GC in nsXREDirProvider::DoShutdown, r=bsmedberg,billm
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2286. # [18:18] <RyanVM> bjacob: yes, I tried to ping jgilbert first
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2288. # [18:18] <bholley> bz: ok, here's my best attempt: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2083203
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2291. # [18:18] <bholley> bz: I get: TypeError: document.getAnonymousNodes(...) is null
2292. # [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5421b6685f3f - Benoit Jacob - Bug 801158 - Fix unexpected-pass on WinXP post ANGLE update - no review, bustage fix
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2294. # [18:19] <bjacob> RyanVM: pushed fix, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5421b6685f3f
2295. # [18:19] <armenzg> mbrubeck: I can't see a "test" directory under https://hg.mozilla.org/try/file/16c12be37aea/b2g
2296. # [18:19] <RyanVM> bjacob: thanks!
2297. # [18:19] <mbrubeck> armenzg: Interesting
2298. # [18:19] <mbrubeck> I wonder if I pushed on top of a bad changeset
2299. # [18:19] <bjacob> RyanVM: thanks for taking care of the tree
2300. # [18:20] <mbrubeck> armenzg: The same thing affected some other pushes around the same time, like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&jobname=emulator&rev=42557e9911dd
2301. # [18:20] <@bz> bholley: looking
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2303. # [18:20] <mbrubeck> armenzg: Yeah, looks like that's the problem.
2304. # [18:20] <@bz> bholley: yeah, that won't work
2305. # [18:20] <armenzg> mbrubeck: it seems like a try issue or some bad changeset
2306. # [18:21] <@bz> bholley: because the binding load is now async
2307. # [18:21] <armenzg> *hg issue
2308. # [18:21] <@bz> bholley: (addBinding forces a sync load, iirc)
2309. # [18:21] <bholley> bz: why this one and not the previous test
2310. # [18:21] <@bz> bholley: the previous test was testing what happens when we start the load
2311. # [18:21] <bholley> bz: oh, right
2312. # [18:21] <@bz> bholley: that part _is_ sync
2313. # [18:21] <bholley> bz: I see
2314. # [18:21] <mbrubeck> armenzg: Ah, looks like that file was just added 2 weeks ago? https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/log/689690a17de3/b2g/test/emulator.manifest
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2316. # [18:22] <@bz> bholley: we have several options here; let me think of the least painful one
2317. # [18:22] <bholley> bz: ok, so just executeSoon the rest of it?
2318. # [18:22] <@bz> bholley: hrm
2319. # [18:22] <mbrubeck> so anyone pushing an older tree to Try will not be able to run B2G emulator tests? Makes sense.
2320. # [18:22] <@bz> bholley: we have the hackery to make this be preloaded already
2321. # [18:22] * @bz reads the test again
2322. # [18:22] <@bz> Oh
2323. # [18:22] <bholley> bz: loadBindingDocument?
2324. # [18:22] <@bz> how about n3.getBoundingClientRect() instead of offsetLeft?
2325. # [18:22] <armenzg> mbrubeck: k
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2327. # [18:23] <@bz> Because this is not an HTML element
2328. # [18:23] <@bz> it's XUL
2329. # [18:23] <@bz> and it therefore has no interesting offsetLeft
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2331. # [18:23] <bholley> bz: oh hey, that worked
2332. # [18:23] <@bz> bholley: good, good. ;)
2333. # [18:23] <bholley> bz: so the load is actually sync here?
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2336. # [18:24] <bholley> bz: given that the binding is the same as the document?
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2338. # [18:24] <@bz> bholley: It's preloaded by the other thing in the doc that uses that binding
2339. # [18:24] <@bz> bholley: so we get a hashtable hit and don't do a load at all
2340. # [18:24] <@bz> bholley: Whoever wrote this test was being Very Clever or something
2341. # [18:24] * @bz is afraid it might have been him
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2344. # [18:25] <@bz> Yep, me.
2345. # [18:25] <@bz> Should have at least commented the part about it being preloaded by that other <hbox>...
2346. # [18:26] <bholley> bz: I'll add a comment
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2349. # [18:27] <bholley> bz: awesome, thanks :-)
2350. # [18:27] <bholley> bz: so, the XBL stuff is getting pretty close
2351. # [18:27] <bholley> bz: I'm almost done with the tests, then I just need to stick it behind a pref and it's good to go
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2354. # [18:27] <bholley> bz: however, I'm wondering if you want to wait to do the reviews in London, when the three of us can sit down in a room together
2355. # [18:28] <bholley> bz: it could be nice, but might also add some delay
2356. # [18:28] <bholley> bz: then again, we're not super close to the end of Q1
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2358. # [18:28] <bholley> bz: so it's not a huge deal
2359. # [18:28] <bholley> bz: the long pole is still probably zones
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2362. # [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a3f731ae54a - Olli Pettay - Bug 831421 - Arrow keys are broken in test-ipc.xul, r=neil
2363. # [18:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3d5c6b932ac - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 70baa7e07838 (bug 833915) since one day has passed
2364. # [18:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4e24f6166ff - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
2365. # [18:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/689690a17de3 - Olli Pettay - Bug 833143 - Don't GC in nsXREDirProvider::DoShutdown, r=bsmedberg,billm
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2369. # [18:30] <@bz> bholley: hmm
2370. # [18:30] <@bz> bholley: We could do it then
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2372. # [18:31] <@bz> bholley: you could also throw it in my queue and if I get to it before then, great
2373. # [18:31] <bholley> bz: ok
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2375. # [18:31] <@bz> bholley: it'll be in line behind enn's patch anyway, fwiw
2376. # [18:31] <bholley> bz: do you want to do the first pass, and mrbkap the second?
2377. # [18:31] <@bz> bholley: hmm... Worth trying, I guess.
2378. # [18:31] <bholley> bz: it might be kind, given that I've got another 30 patches in his queue (or at least will soon)
2379. # [18:31] <@bz> bholley: lol
2380. # [18:31] <bholley> bz: (the GWNOJO stuff)
2381. # [18:32] <bholley> bz: ok
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2387. # [18:33] <kmoir_buildduty> jimm: Okay the VS install should be done now, it takes a really long time
2388. # [18:33] <darkowlzz> what's a batch mode?
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2391. # [18:34] <jimm> kmoir_buildduty: did you also install Update 1?
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2394. # [18:35] <jimm> kmoir_buildduty: see bug 833887 for a link
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2399. # [18:35] <jhammel> bz++
2400. # [18:35] <kmoir_buildduty> jimm: no, let me do that now
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2402. # [18:36] <jimm> kmoir_buildduty: could you also be sure .NET 4.0 is installed? we ran into some build problems without that.
2403. # [18:36] <kmoir_buildduty> jimm: sure, I didn't see bug 833887 earlier
2404. # [18:36] <jimm> thx
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2407. # [18:38] <squeakytoy> i have a really cool idea on an open source social network, i just wish I could get paid by Mozilla to work on it full time :P
2408. # [18:38] <Yoric> :)
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2410. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> Ooh
2411. # [18:39] <Yoric> squeakytoy: http://www.inria.fr/content/search/%28keyword%29/Boost%20your%20code :)
2412. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> What happened to that open social network thing?
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2414. # [18:39] <jhammel> squeakytoy: is it federated? ;)
2415. # [18:39] <squeakytoy> jhammel, "ish"
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2417. # [18:39] <jhammel> then i'm excited-ish ;)
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2419. # [18:39] <squeakytoy> jhammel, if done correctly, no website "owns" your stuff
2420. # [18:40] <jhammel> i care less about the "owns" then having various sites talk to each other
2421. # [18:40] <squeakytoy> i could tell you, but then again, you cant offer me a job :P
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2423. # [18:40] <jhammel> well, i could, but not for actual money
2424. # [18:41] <squeakytoy> im working on it on my sparetime, but its taken a while, since i can only do it after my fulltime job :S
2425. # [18:41] <squeakytoy> Yoric, a french site?
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2433. # [18:46] <RyanVM> mccr8: looks like your b2g18 push is having windows issues too
2434. # [18:46] <khuey> good thing b2g doesn't run on windows!
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2438. # [18:47] <squeakytoy> jhammel, i already know that you can monitize this idea so easily, a "federated social network", so no company wants to invest. But it would be cool if mozilla would be interested in trying to change the social world ;)
2439. # [18:47] <mccr8> RyanVM: that's bad.. would you mind backing out my two patches?
2440. # [18:47] <RyanVM> no prob
2441. # [18:47] <mccr8> thanks.
2442. # [18:48] <mccr8> I'm also getting this xpcshell test locally. I'm not sure why I didn't earlier...
2443. # [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e60e28878899 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 798564 - remove prtypes.h #includes in modules/libmar/; r=ehsan
2444. # [18:48] <mccr8> ah it is intermittent. nice...
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2447. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> jfkthame++
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2452. # [18:50] <RyanVM> mccr8: also, why did this land on b2g18 before inbound?
2453. # [18:50] <mccr8> RyanVM: it only applies to older branches.
2454. # [18:51] <RyanVM> ok, so 21 is unaffected
2455. # [18:51] <mccr8> yeah it was fixed in a different way at some point.
2456. # [18:52] <mwu> gcp: ping
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2458. # [18:52] <gcp> pong
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2460. # [18:53] <glandium> RyanVM: it would have been nice not to merge yet :(
2461. # [18:53] <mwu> gcp: so, I'm seeing a ton of spam in logcat from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86cd5f375c7d
2462. # [18:53] <mwu> does that mean something is broken?
2463. # [18:53] <RyanVM> glandium: ?
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2466. # [18:53] <gcp> mw22: define ton of spam
2467. # [18:54] <glandium> RyanVM: i wanted to land 834228 and retrigger a nightly (but i'm waiting for a try build first)
2468. # [18:54] <gcp> mwu: define "of of spam"
2469. # [18:54] <mwu> mwu: a bunch of messages once every few seconds
2470. # [18:54] <mwu> when using the phone
2471. # [18:54] <mwu> oh this is on b2g btw
2472. # [18:54] <gcp> ah yes
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2474. # [18:54] <gcp> I saw that too. b2g should've disabled those warnings.
2475. # [18:54] <mwu> I can disable them
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2477. # [18:55] <mwu> just wanted to make sure they don't indicate something bad though
2478. # [18:55] <RyanVM> glandium: probably not the end of the world if you trigger a new nightly on a new cset
2479. # [18:55] <mwu> since it sounds like this isn't suppose to trigger that often
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2481. # [18:55] <gcp> mwu: they're there to detect some badness in firefox for android, which will trigger it a lot less
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2483. # [18:55] <mwu> oh, but b2g is suppose to trigger it very frequently?
2484. # [18:55] <gcp> b2g constantly triggers it and likely doesn't care for the original bug either
2485. # [18:55] <glandium> RyanVM: would just have been nicer not to have 80 new changesets between both nightlies
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2487. # [18:56] <RyanVM> glandium: oh well :\
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2489. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6dd652b1e555 - Bobby Holley - Bug 833412 - Make nsXMLPrettyPrinter use nsXBLService/BindingManger to load/remove bindings. r=bz
2490. # [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/616244739680 - Bobby Holley - Bug 833412 - Fix tests that call addBinding. r=bz
2491. # [18:56] <gcp> mwu: b2g just triggers that codepath much more because you interact with gecko a lot more
2492. # [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb3098dbf4eb - Bobby Holley - Bug 833412 - Remove AddBinding/RemoveBinding and remove dead code. r=bz
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2494. # [18:56] <mwu> ah ok
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2500. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5a717b40112 - James Willcox - Bug 768000 - Don't race when destroying plugin audio tracks on Android r=blassey
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2519. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> roc, so, was the last character here: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/89c0d45b70c8#l3.22 intentional?
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2527. # [19:06] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: I can't imagine it was. :)
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2532. # [19:08] <@smaug> RyanVM: I'll land that one bug to branches
2533. # [19:08] <@smaug> (I want to double check something )
2534. # [19:09] <RyanVM> smaug: OK, I saw your comment and figured as much
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2554. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08863162779f - Jason Duell - Bug 761040 - Addition to test to cover failed redirect case. r=mayhemer
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2565. # [19:22] <darkowlzz> what is batch mode?
2566. # [19:22] <kmoir_buildduty> jimm: okay it should be okay with the update 1 now, and it says .NET 4.0 is already installed
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2572. # [19:23] <jimm> awesome! thx
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2579. # [19:27] <BenWa> smaug++ for all the shutdown matches
2580. # [19:27] <BenWa> patches*
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2583. # [19:28] <darkowlzz> can anyone help with this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826969 ?
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2585. # [19:29] <@smaug> BenWa: hopefully they help
2586. # [19:29] <BenWa> smaug: I'm positive they will help with our slower shutdowns
2587. # [19:29] <@smaug> BenWa: I saw the GC in some shutdown profile
2588. # [19:29] <BenWa> The stuff you fixed was showing up in the performance reporter profiles
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2590. # [19:30] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Is there something specific you need help with?
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2592. # [19:30] <we11ington> Hey ehsan, I'm having some trouble using git to create a patch.
2593. # [19:30] <we11ington> The main problem is that the commits that I need are not consecutive.
2594. # [19:31] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, I don't understand the bug properly. I understood that it shows that 'batching' method is not found.
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2596. # [19:32] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Right.
2597. # [19:32] <we11ington> ehsan: jaws mentioned that you were good with Git
2598. # [19:32] <darkowlzz> but then, what, where, how do I do?
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2600. # [19:33] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: You either determine if something is wrong with the call to batching, or if the batching itself is coded wrong.
2601. # [19:33] <jgilbert> bjacob++, RyanVM++
2602. # [19:33] <jgilbert> Trapped in meetings, sorry guys!
2603. # [19:33] <darkowlzz> mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/places/content/browserPlacesViews.js#594
2604. # [19:33] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, ^
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2606. # [19:34] <darkowlzz> mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/places/content/treeView.js#1087
2607. # [19:34] <darkowlzz> mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/downloads/content/allDownloadsViewOverlay.js#1249
2608. # [19:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/233677e1f043 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 830086 - Do not add read property stubs for proxies. r=djvj
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2610. # [19:35] <dholbert> darkowlzz, I don't understand the bug either. If I were you, I'd post a comment saying "I'm interested in working on this bug" [assuming that's the case] "but I don't understand what needs to be done here"
2611. # [19:35] <dholbert> darkowlzz, it definitely could use some clarification
2612. # [19:35] <JosiahOne> dholbert: I agree. Kind of vague right now.
2613. # [19:35] <bjacob> jgilbert: jrmuizel has volunteered for the d3dx9 removal
2614. # [19:35] <darkowlzz> dholbert, JosiahOne thanks :)
2615. # [19:36] <dholbert> darkowlzz, np! good luck!
2616. # [19:36] <jgilbert> bjacob: excellent. May I get cc'd on that regardless?
2617. # [19:36] <darkowlzz> I have another one https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828347
2618. # [19:36] <darkowlzz> I went through this too https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812859
2619. # [19:37] <darkowlzz> I think I should comment there asking what kind of use can be made
2620. # [19:37] <bjacob> jgilbert: sure, doing now
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2622. # [19:37] <squeakytoy> How does mozilla labs projects get started? :-)
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2624. # [19:37] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: On which bug?
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2626. # [19:37] <darkowlzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828347
2627. # [19:37] <dholbert> squeakytoy, #labs is probably the right place for that
2628. # [19:38] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Sure, if you want to take it.
2629. # [19:38] <JosiahOne> Looks like no one is.
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2632. # [19:38] <dholbert> darkowlzz, looks like that latter one (812859) is already fixed
2633. # [19:38] <squeakytoy> dholbert, thanks
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2635. # [19:39] <darkowlzz> dholbert, yes, it's fixed, using the mechanisms in that fixed bug, the other bug has to be fixed
2636. # [19:40] <dholbert> darkowlzz, (ah, ok -- nevermind, sorry)
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2638. # [19:40] <darkowlzz> np :)
2639. # [19:40] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: I am kind of missing your question. Do you just want to know if you can take it or something else?
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2647. # [19:42] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, no, those synchronous initialization stuff. I have no idea of it. I would like to know about them and fix the bug
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2649. # [19:43] <gps> is there a way to trigger PGO builds on try pushes?
2650. # [19:43] <gps> ehsan: ^ I think you did this recently
2651. # [19:43] <dholbert> darkowlzz, you'll have the most success if you directly ask the person who filed the bug (and/or the person who's mentoring the bug, if that's not the same person) about that, rather than just asking #developers in general
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2653. # [19:43] <dholbert> darkowlzz, they're probably your best bet for useful guidance about what the intention of the bug is
2654. # [19:44] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: That bug looks to be requested by Yoric, so you should ask him.
2655. # [19:44] <JosiahOne> Just ping him.
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2657. # [19:45] <@ehsan> gps: yeah
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2659. # [19:45] <@ehsan> gps: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
2660. # [19:46] <gps> ehsan: \o/ thanks a bunch
2661. # [19:46] <@bsmedberg> josh: you think that porting the plugin to CG/Cocoa would be quicker than writing a standalone music viewer using the existing graphics code?
2662. # [19:46] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, thanks for the suggestion, but he seems to be away, and mentor of other bug too. So I though of asking here before commenting or sending a mail
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2665. # [19:47] <@smaug> mayhemer: esr17 is burning
2666. # [19:47] <njn> is nsCOMArray/nsCOMArrayEnumerator thread-safe? E.g. if I start enumerating an nsCOMArray and another thread removes an element, will there be problems?
2667. # [19:47] <darkowlzz> what does 'r=me' means in review?
2668. # [19:47] <mayhemer> smaug: I didn't land it ;)
2669. # [19:47] <nrc> darkowlzz: it means the person who wrote it has granted a review
2670. # [19:47] <nrc> r+
2671. # [19:47] <@gavin> it means "I have reviewed this patch and approve of it being landed"
2672. # [19:48] <khuey> njn: almost certainly not
2673. # [19:48] <@smaug> RyanVM: esr17 is burning
2674. # [19:48] <@smaug> njn: certainly not threadsafe
2675. # [19:49] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, shall I make the required changes and send another review request?
2676. # [19:49] <darkowlzz> nrc, thanks :)
2677. # [19:49] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: if you're not certain, you certainly may
2678. # [19:49] <@bsmedberg> if you know what I meant, then just attach the new patch and set checkin-needed
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2681. # [19:50] <njn> khuey: that's what I thought. I think we have this problem with memory reporters.
2682. # [19:50] <darkowlzz> okay, doing now
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2686. # [19:50] * njn can't see where nsCOMArrayEnumerator::mArraySize is set
2687. # [19:51] <njn> oh, there it is
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2692. # [19:52] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, I will wait for the latest comment by whimboo to be answered
2693. # [19:53] <khuey> njn: possible, yes
2694. # [19:53] <njn> khuey: oh wait... I asked two questions with different senses. Do you mean it's not threadsafe?
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2697. # [19:53] <khuey> njn: yeah, I doubt anything to do with nsCOMArray is threadsafe by default
2698. # [19:53] <njn> khuey: k, thanks
2699. # [19:53] <gaston> anyone knows what happened with the in-content prefs feature ?
2700. # [19:54] <njn> khuey: nsMemoryReporterManager has a lock which it takes when adding a reporter, removing a reporter, and *creating* an enumerator; but not when *using* an enumerator
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2702. # [19:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a75708877822 - Olli Pettay - Bug 830975, make sure to flush all the documents, yet keep the no-flush-needed case fast, r=mccr8,f=bz,a=lsblakk
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2704. # [19:55] <khuey> njn: ah, that's not good
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2707. # [19:55] <@smaug> RyanVM: so are you perhaps going to back out the patches?
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2710. # [19:56] <@smaug> (I have a patch to land )
2711. # [19:56] <RyanVM> smaug: probably
2712. # [19:56] <darkowlzz> whimboo, how do you decise whether the attribute should be 'label enabled' or 'label state'?
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2715. # [19:58] <RyanVM> smaug: backing out now
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2717. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/959b9ee8ac2f - Jason Orendorff - Fix up a recently busted test that apparently does not run on tinderbox. No bug#, no_r=me.
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2719. # [19:59] <RyanVM> smaug: done
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2726. # [20:01] <@smaug> RyanVM: thanks
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2737. # [20:08] <nbp> jduell: If you have problem for pushing, you should check your clock and put it back to the 24 instead of 25 ;)
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2741. # [20:09] <jduell> nbp: eh? I haven't tried to push anything recently
2742. # [20:10] <nbp> jduell: 3ae6475 - Bug 761040 - Addition to test to cover failed redirect case. r=mayhemer (in the future) <Jason Duell>
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2748. # [20:11] <jduell> nbp: looks like it's ryanvm with the clock skew...
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2752. # [20:11] <nbp> jduell: oh ok, I don't print the pushed name, but the author name ;)
2753. # [20:11] <RyanVM> nbp: that was me (again)
2754. # [20:12] <RyanVM> (I'm going to blame IT :D)
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2756. # [20:12] <whimboo> darkowlzz: i don't think it's helpful to have the class enabled for disabled plugins
2757. # [20:12] <RyanVM> new laptop, new problems
2758. # [20:12] <mayhemer> mayhemer=honzab (btw), I really don't like to add r=mayhemer even more I always comment r=honzab to bugs when r+'ing a patch
2759. # [20:12] <jhammel> RyanVM: i blame windows :P
2760. # [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc97e5b91d5c - Harshit Syal - Bug 740556 - reload the mobile homepage on inbound tab syncs. r=wesj
2761. # [20:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9105fb1dcb0 - Nick Alexander - Bug 830884 - Make ContentProviders call notifyChange in bulkInsert. r=wesj
2762. # [20:12] <RyanVM> jhammel: you would
2763. # [20:13] <darkowlzz> yeah, btw any links to read about things related to this?
2764. # [20:13] <RyanVM> mayhemer: noted
2765. # [20:13] <RyanVM> i'll change it on the branch uplifts
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2767. # [20:13] <@smaug> kmoir_buildduty: or anyone, beta and b2g18 trees are very blue
2768. # [20:14] <kmoir_buildduty> smaug: okay thanks looking into it
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2772. # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09ab58c800a1 - Bill McCloskey - Remove LIFO invariants from the enumerator list (bug 831626, r=billm).
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2775. # [20:18] <kmoir_buildduty> smaug: a slave ran out of disk space burned a lot of builds, I've disabled it
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2783. # [20:21] <jmaher> bjacob: ping
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2795. # [20:25] <bjacob> jmaher: pong
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2798. # [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c996159eb596 - Paul Adenot - Bug 804875 - Tests. r=kinetik
2799. # [20:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea7f8d86e592 - Paul Adenot - Bug 814308 - MediaDecoder::SetDuration doesn't handle aDuration=inf correctly. r=kinetik
2800. # [20:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49eaea676d49 - Paul Adenot - Bug 804875 - Reset media element when loading a new src. r=kinetik
2801. # [20:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/904caf7811e4 - Paul Adenot - Bug 819377 - Don't offset the clock by the start time of the video in AdvanceFrame, and set the media as playing earlier. r=kinetik
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2803. # [20:28] <jmaher> bjacob: I am looking to turn off the webgl tests in mochitest and mochitest-plain while running on an ubuntu virtual machine; what would be the best way to do this?
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2806. # [20:29] <jmaher> bjacob: I had also just sent you an email with a more specific set of questions
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2812. # [20:31] <RyanVM> smaug: you've got orange on m-c
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2814. # [20:31] <@smaug> I did
2815. # [20:31] <@smaug> hm
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2817. # [20:32] <bjacob> jmaher: will look at email asap. meanwhile, the simplest way to disable webgl mochitest on desktop is probably just to disable the webgl subdirectory in content/canvas/test makefile
2818. # [20:32] <@smaug> RyanVM: wow, totally nonsense
2819. # [20:32] <@smaug> I mean the error
2820. # [20:32] <RyanVM> oh boy :)
2821. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> jmaher, though if you do that, cc me
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2823. # [20:33] <jmaher> Ms2ger: I won't be doing that, but will be changing something in the near future related to it
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2826. # [20:34] <@smaug> RyanVM: hmm, or it just revealed a bug in WebRTC code
2827. # [20:34] <@smaug> I'll back out
2828. # [20:34] <RyanVM> ok, thanks
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2832. # [20:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/798608217a81 - Jared Wein - Bug 831365 - Always show the click-to-play doorhanger when the Navigation Toolbar is collapsed. r=gavin
2833. # [20:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/680e46fecff0 - Olli Pettay - backout bug 833143 since WebRTC code doesn't like it
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2837. # [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/455fc2f47033 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
2838. # [20:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa969919b1bb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
2839. # [20:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/680e46fecff0 - Olli Pettay - backout bug 833143 since WebRTC code doesn't like it
2840. # [20:40] <@ted> sewardj: ping
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2847. # [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5b29fe24a0f - Jan de Mooij - Bug 833817 part 1 - Remove unused JSStackFrame API functions. r=luke
2848. # [20:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c84500983512 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 833817 part 2 - Remove unused frame argument from GetFunctionObjectPrincipal. r=bholley
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2852. # [20:45] <NeilAway> njn: NS_NewArrayEnumerator makes a copy of the nsCOMArray (but not an nsIArray)
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2855. # [20:47] <njn> NeilAway: it does? oh, cool
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2857. # [20:47] <NeilAway> gavin: shouldn't bug 831365 be handled at the PopupNotification level?
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2863. # [20:48] <@gavin> NeilAway: perhaps
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2865. # [20:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58209cc0ae14 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 833521 - forward "recording-device-events" event to parent process, r=dougt
2866. # [20:49] <@gavin> NeilAway: want to file a bug?
2867. # [20:49] <NeilAway> gavin: not really, but I know you want me to
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2869. # [20:49] <jaws> NeilAway: so should the api not respect the consumer's choice in this instance?
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2871. # [20:50] <NeilAway> jaws: the api being "hi, I'd like to create an unusable notification"?
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2875. # [20:50] <jaws> NeilAway: heh, yeah i know...
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2887. # [20:55] <glandium> jesup: does a failure to build in media/webrtc/trunk/src/modules/video_capture/main/source/Mac/video_capture_mac.mm ring a bell?
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2889. # [20:55] <jaws> NeilAway: i'll file a bug and backout
2890. # [20:56] <jaws> NeilAway: i think there will be others who may hit this soon
2891. # [20:56] <jesup> yes. See the "how to build FF on Mac" mdn page IIRC
2892. # [20:56] <jesup> glandium: ^
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2895. # [20:57] <jesup> Updates of xcode leave wrong paths if you don't do them "right" or some such. Njn and someone found the issue; they and I updated the "how to build" docs
2896. # [20:57] <NeilAway> jaws: filed 834393
2897. # [20:57] <glandium> jesup: i haven't touched at xcode, and it was building find last time i built, but it was 5000 changesets ago
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2899. # [20:58] <jaws> NeilAway: so maybe only backout once there is a fix for bug 834393?
2900. # [20:59] <glandium> jesup: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2083480
2901. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e262687bcea - Nathan Froyd - Bug 786788 - part 1 - let the uuid always be the slug and store the reason separately; r=vdjeric
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2904. # [20:59] <NeilAway> jaws: right
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2906. # [21:00] <glandium> i actually don't care about webrtc, i'll just disable it
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2910. # [21:03] <jesup> glandium: not the same problem
2911. # [21:03] <jesup> Did xcode update on you? what version is it?
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2917. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/382dae2711c9 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 834382 - Disable failing b2g emulator crashtests, r=jgriffin
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2925. # [21:06] <kaie> for a try build, I want a runtime assertion that crashes in a debug build. Should I use PR_Assert or some macro?
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2927. # [21:07] <kaie> sorry. OPT BUILD
2928. # [21:07] <froydnj> kaie: MOZ_CRASH?
2929. # [21:08] <@ehsan> kaie: NS_RUNTIMEABORT
2930. # [21:08] <kaie> ehsan, that sounds good, thank you!
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2934. # [21:11] <glandium> jesup: xcode 4.5.2 with sdk 10.7
2935. # [21:11] <glandium> jesup: i haven't touched it in a whole while
2936. # [21:11] <glandium> and now a failure to build in cubeb
2937. # [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dda4d19eb7d0 - Robert Strong - Bug 593148 - Remove version.nsh after other apps no longer use it. r=bbondy
2938. # [21:12] <jesup> glandium: Not me! Sounds like you have bitrot 1/2 :-)
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2941. # [21:13] <glandium> jesup: webrtc is you ;) (but i disabled it, now)
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2943. # [21:13] <glandium> and now i'm disabling ogg, webm and wave to disable cubeb
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2946. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98a14253dc0a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 08863162779f (bug 761040) for crashes.
2947. # [21:15] <jesup> glandium: Xcode 4.5 here. I don't think that's it or someone else would have mentioned. And the failure to build any audio app sounds like broken SDK
2948. # [21:15] <jesup> but I'm no mac person
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2954. # [21:17] <glandium> jesup: i'm just saying: the same setup worked 5000 changesets ago
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2957. # [21:17] <glandium> i'm not building on mac that often
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2985. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8057e3e19dc6 - Nick Thomas - Bug 833410, update unagi snapshot, r=Callek
2986. # [21:30] <Callek> ooo I forgot I reviewed that
2987. # [21:30] <Callek> ;-)
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2989. # [21:31] <jesup> glandium: wonder if it still works on 5000 changesets ago...
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3005. # [21:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8a7bc20e2aa - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 807606 - Add a native UI implementation of the NSS dialog service in Fennec. r=mfinkle
3006. # [21:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e7773a5b156 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 807606 - Add some padding to the inputs in the PromptService and wrap them in a Scrollview. r=wesj
3007. # [21:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c87c74dc9169 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 807606 - Add text labels as an input type to PromptService. r=mfinkle
3008. # [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65a26453f9a6 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 823109. Only extract d3d dlls when necessary. r=ted
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3011. # [21:41] <glandium> great, disabling media stuff also leads to a build failure
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3014. # [21:43] <@bsmedberg> anyone want to take "data race on nsFactoryEntry::mFactory" for me?
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3019. # [21:46] <@bsmedberg> actually nevermind, I wrote the patch to fix that in September of 2011 :-(
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3022. # [21:48] <glandium> is anyone doing universal builds on osx with xcode 4.5 and 10.7 sdk? do you have problems with current m-c?
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3033. # [21:55] <tabraldes> ted: do you review Configure patches?
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3035. # [21:58] <glandium> ah, i found the problem, and i actually broke that with a recent patch
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3039. # [21:59] <sewardj> ted: pong
3040. # [22:00] <@bsmedberg> vladan: would you be interested in taking bug 684887 and monitoring chromehang after it lands for deadlocks it may have introduced?
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3046. # [22:02] <vladan> bsmedberg: deadlocks wouldn't be caught by chromehangs though
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3049. # [22:02] <@bsmedberg> oh?
3050. # [22:02] <@bsmedberg> vladan: because the browser has to recover to record the chromehang?
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3053. # [22:03] <vladan> bsmedberg: right. chromehangs get reported via telemetry which runs on main thread
3054. # [22:03] <@bsmedberg> grmph
3055. # [22:03] <@bsmedberg> it won't store them and report them the next time the browser starts, I guess?
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3057. # [22:04] <vladan> it won't.. it writes out the unsent telemetry reports at shutdown
3058. # [22:04] <@bsmedberg> do you have other suggestions how we could safely land that bug?
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3064. # [22:06] <mjrosenb> hey all, I want to try to do an lto build, are there directions for that anywhere?
3065. # [22:06] <mjrosenb> i'm currently planning on doing --enable-optimize="--lto -O2"
3066. # [22:06] <vladan> bsmedberg: we still have the crash-on-hang reporter... but it's disabled on Nightly since chromehangs co-opt the "hangmonitor.timeout" pref. we could dis-entangle those and then enable crash-on-hang in nightly by default
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3068. # [22:07] <@bsmedberg> We didn't solve the problems with it, though...
3069. # [22:07] <@bsmedberg> or did we?
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3071. # [22:07] <mjrosenb> err, -flto, evidently?
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3074. # [22:07] <johns> mjrosenb: Are you trying to do LTO on gcc or clang?
3075. # [22:07] <vladan> bsmedberg: i haven't followed that particular feature
3076. # [22:07] <mjrosenb> johns: gcc.
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3078. # [22:08] <johns> mjrosenb: I've been able to do *clang* LTO builds with this config, so it might be a useful starting point: https://github.com/Nephyrin/NephScripts/blob/master/moz/cfg/m-ff-clang-lto.mzc
3079. # [22:09] <johns> mjrosenb: (Where -O4 enables -flto)
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3081. # [22:09] <johns> mjrosenb: Note that this assumes /usr/bin/ld is the gold linker
3082. # [22:09] <@bsmedberg> vladan: it got turned off because people were being crashed if they launched Firefox while their computer was booting, and occasionally when sleeping/resuming
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3084. # [22:09] <mjrosenb> johns: aiui, both gold and bfd support lto.
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3087. # [22:10] <johns> mjrosenb: Not the clang/LLVM variant :(
3088. # [22:11] <mjrosenb> johns: clang's toolchain doesn't use ld.bfd?
3089. # [22:11] <johns> mjrosenb: it does, but ld.bfd doesn't support |-plugin ../LLVMgold.so|
3090. # [22:12] <johns> mjrosenb: clang accomplishes LTO by compiling to LLVM code, then doing final generation at link time
3091. # [22:12] <mjrosenb> johns: makes sense.
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3096. # [22:14] <glandium> mjrosenb: various versions of gcc have various different problems with -flto'ing mozilla codebase
3097. # [22:14] <mjrosenb> glandium: I just installed gcc-4.8, wanted to see how badly it messes things up.
3098. # [22:14] <glandium> mjrosenb: i think it currently fails
3099. # [22:15] <mjrosenb> glandium: a little thing like that has never stopped me before.
3100. # [22:16] <johns> FWIW clang w/lto works as of yesterday with that mozcfg :-P
3101. # [22:16] <mjrosenb> johns: which clang?
3102. # [22:16] <johns> mjrosenb: 3.2 release
3103. # [22:16] <johns> on a linux64 host
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3107. # [22:17] <mjrosenb> blast, apt seems to be choking on clang-3.2
3108. # [22:17] * mjrosenb should probably go back and gentoo this machine
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3111. # [22:18] <johns> mjrosenb: Or arch, if you're not feeling as masochistic
3112. # [22:18] <glandium> mjrosenb: you may want to follow this bug: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45375
3113. # [22:19] <mjrosenb> johns: but why should I use america^Wgentoo jr? :-p
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3116. # [22:20] <johns> mjrosenb: Because it turns out -mtune=native isn't really worth it :p
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3121. # [22:22] <Pike> glandium: re bug 834432, my local german nightly only contains en-US files now. could that be fallout from your latest packager changes?
3122. # [22:23] <mjrosenb> johns: tell that to blas!
3123. # [22:23] <khuey> Pike: it's our new initiative to teach people english
3124. # [22:23] <khuey> whether they want it or not
3125. # [22:24] <froydnj> khuey: such an american
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3128. # [22:24] <Pike> khuey: but a cut-off xml parser error message isn't really good at that
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3131. # [22:25] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: ping? I don't see any callers changing in your patch for CloseWithError
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3133. # [22:26] <@bsmedberg> oh, wait
3134. # [22:26] <glandium> Pike: mmmmm
3135. # [22:26] <@bsmedberg> now I see it, there's a NewRunnableMethod hiding it
3136. # [22:26] <aklotz> bsmedberg: yep
3137. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/de2f88640ab6 - Olli Pettay - Bug 834417, don't even try to open context menu without widget, r=jst
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3140. # [22:28] <glandium> Pike: how did you do that build, and what are you launching?
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3143. # [22:28] <sewardj> ted: you ping'd
3144. # [22:28] <Pike> glandium: update on nightly, builds from releng
3145. # [22:28] <nthomas> Pike: do we know if that's just the most recent nightly, or might be more than one ?
3146. # [22:29] <Pike> glandium: update.locale says 'de', chrome/chrome.manifest registers 'de', but all the dtd etc files are /en-US/
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3148. # [22:29] <glandium> Pike: you said your local german nightly
3149. # [22:29] <glandium> Pike: are they in de, or en-US?
3150. # [22:29] <Pike> update to today's build, BuildID=20130124054158
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3153. # [22:30] <Pike> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2083775, en-US directory paths
3154. # [22:31] <Pike> en-US contents, too
3155. # [22:31] <glandium> Pike: i guess this is new to today's nightly
3156. # [22:31] <glandium> Pike: can you check the second one from yesterday?
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3158. # [22:32] <aja> Pike, no idea of the cause, but have hit same thing a few times over last few months. clean profile fixed it
3159. # [22:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea8af024e14d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 689690a17de3 (bug 833143) since the attempt at merging the backout from m-c was lost.
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3164. # [22:34] <Pike> glandium: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-01-23-05-27-20-mozilla-central-l10n/ rather than http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-01-23-03-09-07-mozilla-central-l10n/ ?
3165. # [22:34] <glandium> Pike: yes
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3167. # [22:35] <Pike> lookin
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3176. # [22:37] <Pike> glandium: that one works like charm
3177. # [22:38] <glandium> Pike: ok, i know where that comes from then
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3179. # [22:38] <Pike> BuildID=20130123052720
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3187. # [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7115ec2354f - John Schoenick - Bug 832032 - Don't create a PluginStreamListener for initial plugin streams before OnStartRequest. r=josh
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3191. # [22:40] <nthomas> right, so if we move the snippets aside for the most recent l10n nightlies that's sufficient ?
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3194. # [22:41] <Pike> nthomas: already filed bug 834442 on disabling the updates, kmoir is on it
3195. # [22:41] <nthomas> Pike: yes, I'm working on the how we do that
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3197. # [22:41] <Pike> oh :-)
3198. # [22:41] <nthomas> seeing if we can leave en-US still enabled
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3200. # [22:42] <Pike> nthomas: I wouldn't know even half enough to make an educated statement, I'm afraid
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3206. # [22:43] <nthomas> Pike: but you've isolated the issue to just the 20130124054158 builds ?
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3210. # [22:44] <Pike> nthomas: well, I guess. do our build IDs span platforms reliably these days? If so, then yes, only the very latest is broken, and the semi-latest is confirmed to work at least on OSX
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3213. # [22:45] <Pike> nthomas: given that glandium sounds like he's having a fix in hand, I don't think being overly generous in disabling the updates will hurt us badly? bold guess, too
3214. # [22:45] <glandium> yeah, i'm on a fix
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3216. # [22:46] <Pike> nthomas: looking at http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Mozilla-l10n, you may even still have a chance to free some resources by killing of some central nightly repacks
3217. # [22:47] <nthomas> RyanVM: thanks for the flag fix
3218. # [22:47] <RyanVM> np
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3220. # [22:48] <nthomas> so many flags to keep track off
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3225. # [22:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f07f88fd036a - Brian Nicholson - Bug 834048 - Add required param for f.remove(). r=mfinkle
3226. # [22:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07592e6d5c23 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 834400 - Use bind() in download callbacks. r=mfinkle
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3228. # [22:51] <sewardj> kbrosnan: ping
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3234. # [22:52] <mconnor> gal: the "don't coalesce JS files" bit is different from conventional web app performance recs
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3238. # [22:52] <gal> I don't think so mconnor
3239. # [22:52] <gal> just because its common practice doesn't make it a good idea
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3242. # [22:53] <gal> especially not if you optimize for load latency
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3244. # [22:53] <gal> you want to load as little as you need to get the initial state up and running
3245. # [22:53] <gal> then you can load the rest of your code
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3247. # [22:53] <mconnor> brb
3248. # [22:53] <gal> k
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3252. # [22:54] <kbrosnan> sewardj: pong
3253. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df36c1dbecf9 - Nick Alexander - Bug 834376 - Move Android Sync PNG files from drawable to drawable-mdpi. r=rnewman
3254. # [22:55] <sewardj> kbrosnan: there's no specific/known STR for 805754, right?
3255. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26f84ce129d1 - Mark Finkle - Bug 834386 - AboutHomeContent: Finalizing a Cursor that has not been deactivated or closed r=bnicholson
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3262. # [23:00] <gaston> http://www.jwz.org/blog/2013/01/mosaic/ heh
3263. # [23:00] <@ehsan> so we can't build on 10.6 any more?!
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3267. # [23:02] <glandium> ehsan: bug 834429 ?
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3269. # [23:02] <glandium> ehsan: (you fail on a camera thing in webrtc?)
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3272. # [23:03] <jesup> ehsan: we build on 10.6 on inbound
3273. # [23:04] <@ehsan> glandium: no I fail in configure
3274. # [23:04] <@ehsan> looks like there is no way for me to get a new xcode
3275. # [23:04] <glandium> ehsan: what's your failure?
3276. # [23:05] <@ehsan> "This compiler miscompiles firefox, please upgrade"
3277. # [23:05] <@ehsan> which is sort of bullshit since I have clang 3.2
3278. # [23:06] <mcsmurf> and it's using clang 3.2?
3279. # [23:06] <@ehsan> oh wait
3280. # [23:06] <@ehsan> an xcode update overwrote my clang :(
3281. # [23:06] <mcsmurf> :o
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3285. # [23:08] <@ehsan> ok nm, seems to work this time
3286. # [23:08] <kbrosnan> sewardj: heads down on some webrtc stuff atm will look into it and see if there are any leads
3287. # [23:08] <@ehsan> at least, configure passed!
3288. # [23:09] <sewardj> kbrosnan: ok, thx
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3292. # [23:11] <jesup> ehsan: :-)
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3297. # [23:14] <glandium> man, will i get that osx universal build done?
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3300. # [23:14] <philor> we don't actually build on 10.6, we build on 10.7 and test on 10.6
3301. # [23:15] <Pike> glandium: I'm not sure about the current status, do we hit `make l10n-check` as part of our automation? not really unit, but still
3302. # [23:15] <glandium> Pike: we do, but that doesn't check much
3303. # [23:15] <randix> general question: who can help? I though one could just insert printf statements in firefox for windows? I know it worked for me a month ago, and I am doing it with osx. But when I insert the printf's - nothing seems to be printed.
3304. # [23:16] <Pike> yeah, just checks update.locale, which was one of the things that was OK
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3310. # [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c779b2ab7695 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 830996 - implement a way to DRY mozbase packages for m-c;r=gps
3311. # [23:20] <njn> gps: I often run "mach build 2>&1 | tee <file>", so that I can (a) see progress in the console, and (b) consult the output for errors afterwards. But running through |tee| loses my colorization. Any ideas how to prevent that?
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3313. # [23:21] <glandium> njn: doesn't mach keep track of the log?
3314. # [23:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2fdc05590f90 - Gene Lian - Bug 830425 - Phone takes too long to wake up for incoming phone calls (acquire and release wake locks in RadioInterfaceLayer.js). r=philikon a=tef+
3315. # [23:21] <glandium> (already)
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3317. # [23:21] <njn> glandium: there's a -l option, but it does some structured logging
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3320. # [23:22] <njn> glandium: I don't know of any logging other than that
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3324. # [23:23] <gps> njn: file a bug again mach for more logging options
3325. # [23:23] <njn> gps: ok
3326. # [23:24] <gps> FWIW, mach essentially does isatty(stdout) to determine how to format output. if you pipe to tee, you'll get different output from running straight to terminal
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3329. # [23:25] <@ted> sewardj: ah, i wandered off in the interim
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3331. # [23:27] <mconnor> gal: so, the reason I've seen cited, for years, is that fewer HTTP requests are better, since latency and download is the biggest chunk. I'm curious why that's bad, vs. parsing N files that add up to that.
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3349. # [23:35] <sewardj> ted: so .. you ping'd first :)
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