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13. # [00:07] <njn> seth: any progress on bug 820602?
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19. # [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed2ed42808ca - Mats Palmgren - Bug 812893 - When inserting a frame into the [Excess]OverflowContinuations list, also move its continuations there if they are in the same parent. r=roc
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21. # [00:09] <seth> njn: yeah. i've tried to narrow down the portion of the patch that could possibly be responsible. (tried using the various memory leak tools first, but i didn't have much luck with that approach) its a bit slow going since there seems to be some variance in the AWSY results but hopefully this approach will work
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23. # [00:09] <njn> seth: there is some variance, but the size of the regression is quite a bit bigger
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26. # [00:10] <seth> njn: it may be that i'm looking that the wrong number, but i'm seeing variance on the order of 20 MB
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29. # [00:11] <johns> njn: Make sure you're looking at explicit and not resident numbers (which are much noisier)
30. # [00:11] <johns> err seth ^
31. # [00:11] <seth> johns: ack! i _am_ looking at resident numbers
32. # [00:11] <njn> seth: and the regression is ~40MB anyway...
33. # [00:11] <johns> seth: The explicit number should mostly approximate resident minus a lot of noise
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35. # [00:14] <seth> johns: just to avoid any further error, i wonder if you could specifically identify which number in the JSON output is the best/most stable measure. i've been using the values under "Iteration 2".TabsClosedSettled. sound right to you? (i'm only doing two iterations)
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37. # [00:15] <johns> seth: The biggest regression was in the "Explicit: After TP5 [+30s, forced GC]" line, whose internal name is "MaxMemoryForceGCV2"
38. # [00:16] <johns> seth: You can see the mapping of tests to their pretty name on the site at: https://github.com/Nephyrin/MozAreWeSlimYet/blob/master/html/slimyet.js#L107
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41. # [00:16] <Callek> jgilbert: ping (can you join me in #ateam briefly to help keep noise down here)
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45. # [00:17] <seth> john: well, presumably that would end up in the coalesced results json, right? (data/my_data.json.gz if I follow your instructions on the bug). my problem there is that most of the values in that file are null for me. MaxMemoryForceGCV2 just has a ton of 'null' entries here
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52. # [00:20] <seth> johns: looks like it corresponds to <last iteration>.TabsOpenForceGC.explicit
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55. # [00:20] <seth> johns: i'll take a look over my results again using that metric
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59. # [00:21] <cdiehl> does anyone know how I can deactivate the 300 sec wait-time for SIGABRT crashes on linux, is there a .mozconfig setting for this?: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2083986
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63. # [00:22] <cdiehl> I would like that such signals get treated like SIGSEGV crashes
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65. # [00:23] <mjrosenb> jlebar: wow, that bit with the backtrace not having symbols is strange.
66. # [00:24] <jlebar> mjrosenb: yes, yes it is.
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68. # [00:24] <jlebar> mjrosenb: I haven't had a chance to look at it, but I will.
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77. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6469d32b385 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 825501 - Remove IPv4 records manually because PR_GetAddrInfoByName dislike PR_AF_INET6. r=honzab
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80. # [00:29] <@bsmedberg> Is there a website which you can type JS in and it will run it, and it will save your work for you?
81. # [00:29] <@bsmedberg> I know about w3schools tryit, but if you refresh you lose your work
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85. # [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33994a9160d6 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 834054: Mark 'uriloader' subdirectories as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=mayhemer
86. # [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82256205e936 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 834072: Fix build warnings in uriloader/exthandler/android. r=kats
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89. # [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a4f90fd4146 - Geoff Brown - Bug 834027: Dump diagnostic info when FennecNativeDriver.getSurfaceView fails; r=jmaher
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95. # [00:35] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: jsfiddle.net ?
96. # [00:36] <@bsmedberg> NeilAway: yeah, that looks pretty good!
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98. # [00:36] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: yeah, popular with Stack Overflow
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100. # [00:36] <philor> whew, thought we had a --disable-profiling regression to cap off ehsan's week, but it's just someone who should stop pushing to mozilla-central
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102. # [00:37] <@ehsan> philor: what's happening?
103. # [00:37] <JosiahOne> Say I want to import a patch. But the patch is broken, so I go to fix it. How can I make the source import all changes it can, but allow me to manually fix these errors, and then still let me patch all these changes?
104. # [00:37] <philor> ehsan: just smaug's bustage
105. # [00:37] <@ehsan> oh
106. # [00:38] <@ehsan> philor: I can force-merge profiling if you want
107. # [00:38] <@smaug> what did I do?
108. # [00:38] <philor> ehsan: nope, it's clearly that, I just hadn't looked at m-c to know that smaug broke every tree that merges from it
109. # [00:38] <philor> smaug: broke every tree that merges from m-c
110. # [00:38] <@ehsan> ok
111. # [00:39] <philor> smaug: if you could stop pushing to m-c and switch to inbound, like even khuey finally did, that'd be great
112. # [00:39] <@smaug> why did I break anything?
113. # [00:39] <@smaug> unless people merge from m-c at odd time
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115. # [00:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6420c37f6954 - Mike Hommey - Bug 834228 - Force a stage-package to run before buildsymbols on universal builds. r=ted,gps
116. # [00:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/978bd92ffe96 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833848 - Fixup for crashreporter.ini handling in l10n-repack. r=ted
117. # [00:40] <philor> the whole point of having inbound was to make it possible to merge from m-c without having to wait until someone has backed out their bustage
118. # [00:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6e3ed198bcac - Mike Hommey - Bug 834429 - Re-export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET after bug 833627. r=ted
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120. # [00:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bf60e2782355 - Mike Hommey - Bug 834176 - Use NON_OMNIJAR_FILES value in the new packager. r=gps
121. # [00:40] <philor> ehsan: oh, have you seen birch?
122. # [00:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/169e0492b03b - Mike Hommey - Backout changeset 4c8d59b07d16 (bug 833882) for l10n bustage
123. # [00:40] <@ehsan> I have not
124. # [00:40] <@ehsan> let me look
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126. # [00:41] <@ehsan> philor: oh thanks, I'll figure it out
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129. # [00:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/533a01077116 - Geoff Brown - Bug 825152: Disable robocop testAllPagesTab for too many intermittent failures; DONTBUILD
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133. # [00:46] <Waldo> this is interesting
134. # [00:46] <Waldo> I wonder if I've found the cause of one or more orange time-bombs here
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138. # [00:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e775b0323811 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 829383 follow-up: make the test only run in per-window private browsing builds
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140. # [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6884fd8e6ff - Wes Johnston - Bug 832561 - Provide a stub implementation of GeckoAsyncTask.onPostExecute. r=lucasr
141. # [00:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9045da9e4cae - Wes Johnston - Bug 833919 - Provide explicit color for checkboxes in doorhangers. r=sriram
142. # [00:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eeee5a8a4730 - Wes Johnston - Bug 832561 - Don't update cursors when sites are pinned/unpinned. r=lucasr
143. # [00:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67392eaaf75f - Wes Johnston - Bug 832561 - Dont show Pin Sites option on empty sites. r=lucasr
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157. # [01:05] <reuben> lol https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19107119&tree=Try
158. # [01:05] <reuben> the keyboard pairing assistant stole the focus of firefox in the test machine and caused a timeout
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160. # [01:07] <dholbert> reuben, nope. I was fooled into thinking the same thing about a different log recently, but philor corrected me
161. # [01:08] <dholbert> reuben, that keyboard setup dialog is just always there on our mac testers
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164. # [01:09] <reuben> dholbert, hm. why don't we disable that in the testers?
165. # [01:09] <dholbert> reuben, the nightly window has focus (its titlebar isn't grayed)
166. # [01:09] <dholbert> reuben, no idea
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168. # [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9697b07a494 - Alexandros Chronopoulos - Bug 790458 - Support multichannel Opus on mobile. r=rillian
169. # [01:10] <philor> we sort of think that we did disable it, we just aren't quite right about it
170. # [01:11] <reuben> heh
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173. # [01:12] <philor> or maybe it's an after-effect of the way we hook up keyboards for the crash cart, that whole part of it was never clear to me, and then my eye wanders over to iCal, and explodes
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176. # [01:12] <Waldo> philor: do you remember, are we hitting orange time-bombs on tinderboxen at the time of the DST change on all platforms, or only on some platforms?
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178. # [01:13] <philor> Waldo: I think we got rid of the platform-specific ones, finally updated WinXP enough
179. # [01:13] <dholbert> Waldo, this is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610183 I presume?
180. # [01:13] <Waldo> dholbert: this is me investigating another bug and finding out our code is horribly wrong with totally misleading names for stuff
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182. # [01:14] <Waldo> dholbert: and incidentally finding what looks like it might cause orange time-bombs
183. # [01:14] <dholbert> Waldo, at least for bug 610183, we got the same orange on windows, mac, and linux the last time around (November 2012)
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185. # [01:14] <Waldo> dholbert: excellent, that supports my hypothesis
186. # [01:14] <Waldo> none of this awful looks like it would vary by platform
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189. # [01:15] <dholbert> Waldo, I dug into fixing a version of the that DST timebomb at some point, and got blocked by some misleading code... I don't remember the details though
190. # [01:16] * glandium would love if these js tests wouldn't error out on machines not in the PST timezone
191. # [01:16] <Waldo> too bad we didn't find this longer ago, so I could just do a trunk patch and make everyone happy; I'm only doing this to understand the current code to conjure up a b2g branch fix that will doubtless not fix all the bugs
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193. # [01:18] <dholbert> Waldo, found my earlier investigation, in case it's helpful: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=552218#c25 and following
194. # [01:19] <Waldo> dholbert: hum, that's not the issue I'm seeing
195. # [01:19] <Waldo> dholbert: but I can well imagine that's a bug too
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197. # [01:19] <dholbert> Waldo, looks like per https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=552218#c51 the buggy ile I was looking at is/was completely unused
198. # [01:19] <dholbert> *buggy file
199. # [01:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0770079f15c7 - adrian.tamas@softvision.ro - Bug 817970 - Add tests for Bookmark remove and edit from context menu. r=jmaher
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201. # [01:19] <Waldo> comparing the C++ implementation against a hacked-up JS one would require keeping the JS implementation up to date
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206. # [01:21] <dholbert> Waldo, worst-case, we'll be in good company (Apple at least) in having occasional odd-clock-behavior issues at certain time switchovers. :)
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232. # [01:49] <@ehsan> roc: I'm planning to take a stab at implementing GainNode... you're not working on that are you?
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241. # [01:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc0081ab6c4a - Nathan Froyd - Bug 834263 - consolidate ClonedMessageData unpacking code; r=smaug
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243. # [01:55] <ggoncalves> I'm trying to write some tests in C++, but I keep running into linker problems, can anyone help? I'm trying to follow https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Compiled-code_automated_tests
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249. # [01:58] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: what does your test access?
250. # [01:58] <@ehsan> anything from inside libxul?
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254. # [01:59] * njn continues taking a hatchet to e4x
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256. # [02:00] <@dolske> AND MY AXE!
257. # [02:00] <ggoncalves> ehsan: not that I know of... the test file is mostly just copied from the sample in the url
258. # [02:00] <njn> ~13,000 LOC currently
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260. # [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d0c3b13e956e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge fx-team to m-c.
261. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/82196bf32137 - Rob Campbell - Bug 834069 - Create a command to list sources in the debugger; r=past
262. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3d578ca8e4b3 - Tim Taubert - Bug 797263 - Intermittent browser_586068-reload.js | Test timed out r=yoric
263. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/92644c33b05e - Victor Porof - Bug 833963 - Variables View: better handling for long strings, r=msucan
264. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4f68a6f8de90 - Victor Porof - Bug 830392 - The deletion button in the Variables View only shows up on Linux when hovered, r=msucan
265. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/add340e8b076 - Victor Porof - Bug 831802 - Variables View: editing getters and setters should not be allowed, r=rcampbell
266. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d6e990c5a9bf - Victor Porof - Bug 830715 - Some Variables View flags should propagate across scopes, variables and properties, r=msucan
267. # [02:01] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: what errors are you getting?
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272. # [02:04] <ggoncalves> ehsan: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2084208
273. # [02:04] <@ehsan> hrm
274. # [02:04] <@ehsan> are you linking against xpcom?
275. # [02:04] <@ehsan> can I see your diff against the base m-c?
276. # [02:05] <ggoncalves> sure, one second.
277. # [02:05] <@dolske> njn: are you killing e4x? I vaguely thought Waldo was well along on that path...
278. # [02:05] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: oh, are you using a trick like this? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webaudio/Makefile.in#56
279. # [02:05] <njn> dolske: I am, and Waldo isn't
280. # [02:06] <@ehsan> to make sure the test is getting built after xpcom is?
281. # [02:06] <Waldo> except in spirit
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284. # [02:07] <ggoncalves> ehsan: no, I'm not. let me try that and give you the diff in case it fails
285. # [02:07] <ggoncalves> also, I was using TEST_DIRS rather than TOOL_DIRS, should that be a problem?
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287. # [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8a4e004e3dc - Ben Turner - Bug 831307 - Allow invalid file handles to not crash child processes. r=cjones.
288. # [02:08] <ggoncalves> hmm, actually that seems to be part of the trick...
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290. # [02:08] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: yes that is the source of the problem
291. # [02:09] <@ehsan> since those directories are processed before xpcom is built
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293. # [02:09] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: just adopt my trick there and you'll be fine!
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302. # [02:14] <mjrosenb> what do I set on a bug to prevent it from being closed?
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304. # [02:16] <froydnj> mjrosenb: whiteboard [leave open]
305. # [02:17] <mjrosenb> froydnj: danke.
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310. # [02:18] <ggoncalves> ehsan: hmm, sorry, doesn't seem to work... though my test is currently in the same directory as other, non-compiled tests. I'll separate it in its own compiledtest dir
311. # [02:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b73d9410c6f - Chris Peterson - Bug 834471 - Part 2: Fix some FindBugs warnings about DateTimePicker. r=wesj
312. # [02:19] <@ehsan> yeah you should put it in its own dir
313. # [02:19] <@ehsan> (because of this hack)
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317. # [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b48effcf696 - Ben Turner - Bug 834526, r=cjones.
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321. # [02:25] <JonathanS> ted, since Mac OS X build moved to clang, is PGO would be working on?
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337. # [02:28] <ggoncalves> ehsan: still no luck :/
338. # [02:28] <glandium> JonathanS: yay for doubling osx build time
339. # [02:29] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: hmm, then I suggest talking to one of the build system gurus
340. # [02:29] <mjrosenb> glandium: I think pgo more than doubles build time.
341. # [02:29] <ggoncalves> don't know if this is related, but in order to have it compiled in the first place I added DEFINES += -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API to the test's Makefile.in, which looks a bit fishy to me...
342. # [02:29] <@ehsan> hmm
343. # [02:29] <glandium> mjrosenb: when you have to build all files twice ?
344. # [02:29] <@ehsan> that does sound fishy!
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348. # [02:30] <mjrosenb> glandium: you also have to gather the profiling info, and the lto that pgo implies is a whole lot slower than the standard linking step.
349. # [02:30] <ggoncalves> yeah, it really looked like it would come back to bite me later when I added it earlier...
350. # [02:31] <glandium> mjrosenb: it's too late, i misread what you were saying
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353. # [02:31] <mjrosenb> glandium: go to sleep, you're fried :-p
354. # [02:32] <ggoncalves> ehsan: would you recommend talking to anyone in particular, or asking in a different channel? I'm sort of new, so I don't really know any gurus yet :)
355. # [02:32] <@ehsan> oh
356. # [02:32] <@ehsan> ggoncalves: you want either glandium, ted, khuey|away or gps
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358. # [02:33] <ggoncalves> ehsan: great, thank you so much for the help!
359. # [02:33] <@ehsan> well I didn't help much, but no worries!
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361. # [02:35] <glandium> ggoncalves: what is your problem?
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364. # [02:35] <glandium> is there a sheriff around?
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366. # [02:36] <@ehsan> glandium: what do you need?
367. # [02:36] <Mook_as> ggoncalves: yeah, pretty sure internal API = needs stuff not exported = you won't link unless you're living inside libxul
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369. # [02:37] <glandium> ehsan: to know if the oranges on my push are familiar
370. # [02:38] <jesup> ggoncalves: yeah, c++ unit tests are a pain due to MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API (and related issues)
371. # [02:38] <jesup> ted (and khuey) have ideas. None are implemented
372. # [02:38] <@ehsan> glandium: they're not to me, but I haven't been deeply looking into the recent oranges
373. # [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be8bf489bcb1 - Steve Workman - Bug 834496 - Use ne_map_track_number_to_index in nestegg_track_seek r=kinetik
374. # [02:38] <@ehsan> glandium: perhaps philor knows?
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377. # [02:39] <ggoncalves> jesup: hmm, so there's no way around that? so I don't need MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API in the first place?
378. # [02:41] <philor> glandium: the leak probably is, or I can pretend it is, once I have time; the other one isn't familiar
379. # [02:42] <jesup> If you want to see examples of c++ unit tests, look in webrtc (media/webrtc/signaling/tests, media/mtransport/tests I think, etc)
380. # [02:42] <jesup> MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API is a cross around the necks of any attempt to write them
381. # [02:42] <jaws> bsmedberg: are you looking for a review of bug 831921 tonight? it would need pinstripe changes before it can land, and preferably the new icons as well
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383. # [02:43] <glandium> ggoncalves: what is it you're building?
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386. # [02:44] <ggoncalves> glandium: I'm trying to write C++ tests for a part of the implementation of the speech api in which I'm working on
387. # [02:44] <glandium> ggoncalves: what's your build system goop, and what's the error?
388. # [02:44] <jesup> any dom reviewers available? we have a regression introduced last night we'd like to land for nightly
389. # [02:45] <jst> jesup: yo, what do you need?
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392. # [02:45] <jesup> jst: bug 834463
393. # [02:45] <jesup> and thanks
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398. # [02:46] <jst> jesup: looking
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400. # [02:46] <jesup> jst: jib and ekr are in #media if you have any questions
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402. # [02:47] <ggoncalves> glandium: sorry, goop? the errors are: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2084246 (without MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API) and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2084208 (with MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API)
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404. # [02:47] <ekr> jst: thanks
405. # [02:47] <ekr> I am here too :)
406. # [02:48] <glandium> ggoncalves: what is your makefile?
407. # [02:48] <glandium> (and in what directory is it?)
408. # [02:48] <jst> ekr: good to know :)
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410. # [02:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17306ccdd8d5 - Jason Duell - Bug 832162 - fix jar BuildSynthetics r=taras
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414. # [02:50] <ggoncalves> glandium: content/media/webspeech/compiledtest/Makefile.in: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2084293 , and content/media/webspeech/Makefile.in: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2084302
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418. # [02:51] <jst> jesup, ekr: r=jst
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420. # [02:52] <jesup> jst: thanks! Appreciate it
421. # [02:52] <jst> np
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426. # [02:56] <glandium> ggoncalves: try adding EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS += $(DIST)/lib/$(LIB_PREFIX)xpcomglue_s.$(LIB_SUFFIX) $(XPCOM_LIBS)
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429. # [02:58] <glandium> ggoncalves: forget it, they are already pulled by the use of CPP_UNIT_TESTS
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433. # [02:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3226c8ac08f7 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 833908: explicitly export spn related attributes in nsIICCRecords. r=allstars.chh
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435. # [02:59] <glandium> ggoncalves: actually, try adding EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS += $(XPCOM_LIBS)
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440. # [03:00] <ggoncalves> glandium: to compiledtest/Makefile.in right?
441. # [03:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/290d4a86ea19 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 834463: Corrected RTCConfiguration format. r=jst
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444. # [03:01] <glandium> ggoncalves: yes
445. # [03:01] <glandium> time for bed
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449. # [03:02] <@bsmedberg> jaws|away: no, definitely not tonight
450. # [03:04] <ggoncalves> glandium: still no luck, unfortunately... anyway, thanks for the help and good night, let me know if you come up with anything else
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462. # [03:17] <dholbert> njn, me too
463. # [03:17] <njn> dholbert: woohoo!
464. # [03:17] <dholbert> njn, what, you're excited that we suffer together?
465. # [03:17] <dholbert> :)
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467. # [03:20] <firebot> Check-in:
468. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de3a78d90afa - Fabrice Desré - Bug 833659 - REINSTALL_FORBIDDEN error isn't triggering when installing a packaged app with a mini-manifest off of X origin when a hosted app was already installed from
469. # [03:21] <firebot> X origin r=ferjm
470. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec3d263e2478 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 833587 - Updating a packaged app to a new version that is too large to fit in the phone fails, but the original packaged app is lost (no longer launches) r=ferjm
471. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4825b19c9941 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 831644 - Uninstalling an app while it's currently being downloading leaves Gaia's homescreen and download progress in a corrupted, out of sync state with the webapps
472. # [03:21] <firebot> registry r=julienw
473. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be407e8f5093 - Fabrice Desré - Bug 832408 - Notifications stick around after a failed 3rd party app update r=ferjm
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506. # [03:47] <dholbert> njn, it looks like at least some of them are "r+ with these changes"
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508. # [03:47] <dholbert> njn, and last comment was just a few days ago; I suspect it's close to landing
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570. # [04:35] <njn> dholbert: I dearly hope so. I emailed tn for details
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581. # [04:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ea6e1d489f3 - Marco Chen - Bug 834146 - [Audio] When initilizing AudioChannelAgent, we should set visibility correctly in that time. r=kinetik, a=tef+
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583. # [04:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30fcaabe235a - Makoto Kato - Bug 830676 - YarrJIT is broken on Win64 after landing bug 820124. r=sstangl
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593. # [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7c845b323d0 - Chris Jones - Bug 834470: Release AsyncPanZoomController and friends. r=roc
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599. # [05:01] <reuben> do eet
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604. # [05:03] <Waldo> ChatZilla and/or our networking code and/or something do not seem to smoothly handle changes in time and/or time zone
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607. # [05:05] <Waldo> presumably because pings or whatever start "timing out" due to using wall clock timers rather than interval timers, or something
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649. # [05:44] <ddahl_> my build is not happy... http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2084584 anyone know what is what - no patches applied, m-c
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651. # [05:45] <ddahl_> also, that is a clobber
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655. # [05:47] <firebot> Check-in:
656. # [05:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/342c2b349402 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 830192. Integrate GetFixedContainingBlock into GetAbsoluteContainingBlock and ensure only elements which can be abs-pos containing blocks are turned into
657. # [05:47] <firebot> fixed-pos containing blocks when transformed. r=bzbarsky
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689. # [06:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ace1e79d65d9 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 825714: Refactor JS allocation routines to enable allocation on parallel
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696. # [06:20] * philor has a go at the windmill
697. # [06:21] <philor> gps: you've got unstarred unfiled intermittent-failures on m-c
698. # [06:21] <philor> jesup: you've got unstarred unfiled intermittent-failures on m-c
699. # [06:21] <philor> RyanVM: you've got unstarred unfiled intermittent-failures on m-c
700. # [06:21] <philor> glandium: you've got unstarred unfiled intermittent-failures on m-c
701. # [06:22] <philor> smaug: you've got unstarred unfiled intermittent-failures on m-c
702. # [06:22] <jesup> philor: looking
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711. # [06:26] <Callek> philor: bright side, RyanVM is now a paid-sheriff :-)
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713. # [06:26] <Callek> so you can *really* yell at him about stuff like that
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717. # [06:28] <Waldo> I drank that 50mL bottle of whiskey I had on my desk until yesterday a day too early :-(
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731. # [06:40] <helix> hi. does firefox save build logs in the build tree somewhere? (my windows build fails, just wondering if I have to log the failure myself, the terminal buffer isn't large enough to see where it began)
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733. # [06:41] <Callek> helix: not automatically, no
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735. # [06:41] <Callek> (you can also increase your terminal buffer for next time)
736. # [06:41] <helix> Callek: is there a way to enable it in a mozilla-y way or should I revert to my normal shell methods?
737. # [06:41] <Callek> whatever shell-y method works for you, theres no way [that I know of] to auto-log the build
738. # [06:41] <helix> yeah, I increased it but it didn't stick
739. # [06:41] <helix> okay, thanks
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743. # [06:42] <Unfocused> i thought mach could do that now?
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747. # [06:44] <Callek> Unfocused: thats possible, I don't pretend to know what mach can do
748. # [06:45] <Unfocused> helix: ./mach --help suggests passing in -l filename should work
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819. # [07:48] <philor> grr
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821. # [07:48] <philor> someone who can see roc: ask him if that unexpected pass he's getting in a reftest is a good unexpected or a bad unexpected
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826. # [07:53] <philor> oh, I see. clear as mud.
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843. # [08:06] <findow> anyone here? :|
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845. # [08:07] <Waldo> nope
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847. # [08:08] <findow> *pfffffprchprchpfffffprchprch*
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849. # [08:09] <findow> so who's the top developer here?
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853. # [08:15] <mjrosenb> thinker: ping?
854. # [08:15] * mjrosenb is guessing it is working hours over there.
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862. # [08:23] <Waldo> I would claim to be the top developer and know everything about everything, but unfortunately someone would seize the opportunity and take me seriously, and I would regret that
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869. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> so right now, I think I want to only insert breakpoint instructions when we're running under gdb
870. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> but I think if I actually implemented that
871. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> it would come back to bite me so hard.
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884. # [08:49] <glazou> bonjour
885. # [08:49] <glazou> Unfocused: yt?
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895. # [08:54] <Waldo> uh oh, glazou's here, that means I'm here too late :-)
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897. # [08:55] <mjrosenb> Waldo: what's wrong with glazou?
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900. # [08:55] <Waldo> mjrosenb: waking time in France is supposed to mean sleepytime wherever I am, usually
901. # [08:56] <glazou> I'm the go-to-sleep clock for people in the US
902. # [08:56] <Waldo> it was worse when I'd see him when I was on the east coast
903. # [08:56] <Waldo> at least west coast it's not horribly crazily ridiculously late
904. # [08:57] <nigelb> glazou's "bonjour" is basically the daily go-to-bed-america alarm.
905. # [08:58] * mjrosenb is beginning to think that #developers just doesn't like the french.
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907. # [08:59] <Waldo> in this case it's not actually poking fun :-)
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923. # [09:17] <glazou> I'm only the freedom clock ;-) (re. freedom fries)
924. # [09:17] <glandium> glazou: freedom fries aren't even french
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926. # [09:19] <glazou> nobody really knows who invented them
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942. # [09:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e518197a823 - Robert O'Callahan - Backout 342c2b349402, bug 803192
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950. # [09:56] <firebot> Check-in:
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952. # [09:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4856e2c22f35 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 830192. Integrate GetFixedContainingBlock into GetAbsoluteContainingBlock and ensure only elements which can be abs-pos containing blocks are turned into
953. # [09:56] <firebot> fixed-pos containing blocks when transformed. r=bzbarsky
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975. # [10:22] <glandium> Standard8: ping
976. # [10:22] <Standard8> glandium: pong
977. # [10:22] <glandium> Standard8: so there are two things remaining for tb
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979. # [10:23] <glandium> Standard8: a flight.mk change, and something fishy with the universal build
980. # [10:23] <Standard8> ok, I've already landed the flight.mk change
981. # [10:24] <glandium> ah
982. # [10:24] <NeilAway> ddahl: turn off enable-warnings-as-errors in your .mozconfig?
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984. # [10:25] <glandium> Standard8: i know where that comes from
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986. # [10:26] <glandium> Standard8: https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/diff/ead82f3bfe13/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig.common
987. # [10:26] <glandium> Standard8: the unify-dist location needs to be ../x86_64/mozilla/dist and ../i386/mozilla/dist
988. # [10:26] <glandium> Standard8: but that will make check-sync-dirs barf :-/
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994. # [10:30] <thinker> mjrosenb: pong
995. # [10:31] <thinker> mjrosenb: I am just back from a meeting
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998. # [10:33] <mjrosenb> thinker: ahh, I saw you were looking at b2g js perf.
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1001. # [10:35] <thinker> mjrosenb: yes. I had organized a small task force to investigate some JS performance issues.
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1003. # [10:37] <thinker> mjrosenb: do you have any ideal on the issues what we had found?
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1010. # [10:40] <mjrosenb> thinker: looking at the numbers that you posted, it certainly seems that it is a gc related issue.
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1014. # [10:41] <thinker> mjrosenb: Is GC disabled for jsshell?
1015. # [10:41] <Standard8> glandium: hmm, interesting, I guess we could add that to a check sync exceptions for now
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1023. # [10:45] <whimboo> smaug: all extensions disabled and the same leak
1024. # [10:46] <glandium> edmorley_: is there an open bug on keyboard problems on test slaves?
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1027. # [10:49] <edmorley_> glandium: the bluetooth prompt?
1028. # [10:49] <@smaug> whimboo: odd
1029. # [10:49] <@smaug> whimboo: I wish I could reproduce
1030. # [10:49] <glandium> edmorley_: yeah
1031. # [10:49] <glandium> i think i say something about that recently, but i can't find it
1032. # [10:49] <glandium> saw
1033. # [10:49] <edmorley_> glandium: Bug 786679
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1035. # [10:50] <whimboo> smaug: you would only need mv or mpt access
1036. # [10:50] <edmorley_> generally not the cause of test failures, just a red herring fwiw - but still worth fixing if only to reduce confusion
1037. # [10:50] <@smaug> whimboo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751557#c26
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1039. # [10:51] <whimboo> smaug: 345.08 MB (30.68%) ── heap-unclassified :(
1040. # [10:51] <@smaug> interesting
1041. # [10:51] <@smaug> whimboo: you're using Aurora?
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1043. # [10:52] <whimboo> yes
1044. # [10:52] <@smaug> whimboo: could you try Nightly? njn landed some memory reporters
1045. # [10:52] <@smaug> (for XMLHttpRequest)
1046. # [10:52] <whimboo> sure
1047. # [10:52] <whimboo> ah
1048. # [10:52] <whimboo> sounds great
1049. # [10:52] <whimboo> i hope that will give us some light
1050. # [10:52] <@smaug> Bug 826521
1051. # [10:52] <NeilAway> does storage have memory reporters?
1052. # [10:53] <glandium> btw, opening a big data:image/png freezes the ui
1053. # [10:53] <NeilAway> (dunno which dom storage flavour offhand)
1054. # [10:54] <@smaug> whimboo: you're on mac?
1055. # [10:54] <whimboo> smaug: yes
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1058. # [10:55] <mak> NeilAway: dom storage? the last I remember is webappsstore.sqlite in about:memory
1059. # [10:55] <mak> NeilAway: I dunno if the rewrite already landed though
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1061. # [10:56] <@smaug> whimboo: just wondering if it for some reason happens on mac but not on linux
1062. # [10:56] <glandium> edmorley_: i'm not sure how to file my unstarred orange... there are problems on two different but consecutive tests...
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1064. # [10:58] <mak> edmorley_: looks like my backout didn't make the last merge to central
1065. # [10:58] <mak> edmorley_: that means many windows local builds will be broken
1066. # [10:59] <whimboo> smaug: might be. once I have updates i will report back
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1068. # [11:00] <edmorley_> mak: which?
1069. # [11:00] <mak> edmorley_: ed1d3c2794a8
1070. # [11:00] <edmorley_> glandium: just pop both in hte summary perhaps
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1074. # [11:02] <glandium> edmorley_: ah, the second test actually complains about the first not terminating cleanly...
1075. # [11:03] <mak> edmorley_: btw, fyi, if someone comes complaining central doesn't build, suggest to --disable-wegl, or use inbound :)
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1077. # [11:05] <edmorley_> mak: ok, thank you :-)
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1084. # [11:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd89dd17b9dd - Gene Lian - Bug 833060 - Need a way to know whether NITZ is available or not. r=philikon a=tef+
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1088. # [11:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95bb08ab18d8 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 832133 - Stop using addvisit() in toolkit cpp tests.
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1090. # [11:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb42fd7cdd46 - Bobby Holley - Bug 834255 - Fix intermittent orange. r=bz
1091. # [11:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53640f283f68 - Bobby Holley - Bug 833856 - Handle errors better in EvaluateString. r=bz
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1099. # [11:23] <whimboo> smaug: where is the xhr stuff listed in about:memory?
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1109. # [11:30] <@smaug> whimboo: dunno
1110. # [11:30] <@smaug> check the bug
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1113. # [11:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b662c6940cf4 - Jason Duell - Bug 833935 - Centralize UsingNeckoIPDLSecurity function. r=jdm
1114. # [11:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eddbffde3918 - Jason Duell - Bug 833935 - Warn when child is about to issue illegal IPDL request. r=jdm
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1121. # [11:41] <wolfiR> is there any tracking bug or work about dom.storage performance?
1122. # [11:41] <wolfiR> it's so slow compared to Chrome :-(
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1124. # [11:43] <Mavericks> wolfiR: may be you can find relevant one @ v
1125. # [11:43] <Mavericks> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=dom%20storage;list_id=5457042
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1128. # [11:45] <@smaug> wolfiR: what part of it is slow?
1129. # [11:45] <@smaug> wolfiR: testcases needed
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1131. # [11:45] <wolfiR> smaug: good question. I'm using a webapp which seems to write a lot to it and during that my disk is busy and the ff ui is blocked
1132. # [11:45] <@smaug> wolfiR: also, I hope you're not using localStorage in any new code ;)
1133. # [11:46] <@smaug> wolfiR: there is for example Bug 600307
1134. # [11:46] <wolfiR> smaug: hmm, it's a rather new webapp indeed and I'm not in charge of its development. So what is the thing to use?
1135. # [11:47] <@smaug> wolfiR: and Bug 807021
1136. # [11:47] <@smaug> Bug 807021 should be in FF20
1137. # [11:47] <@smaug> wolfiR: IndexedDB should be used
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1139. # [11:47] <@smaug> localStorage is an API from hell
1140. # [11:47] <@smaug> nicely speaking :)
1141. # [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd471ce8fd8e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 815542 - crash in IncrementalCollectSlice r=billm
1142. # [11:49] <wolfiR> there is a demo system running the webapp where someone could create an account to see the performance
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1144. # [11:53] <NeilAway> mak: bug# for that Windows build issue?
1145. # [11:54] <mak> NeilAway: bug 823109
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1152. # [11:58] <NeilAway> mak: ta
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1155. # [12:01] <wolfiR> smaug: bug 807021 should help a lot in my case. I'll check with 20
1156. # [12:01] <darkowlzz> jdm: ping!
1157. # [12:01] <jdm> darkowlzz: yo
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1159. # [12:01] <darkowlzz> jdm: check the last comment in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834632
1160. # [12:02] <darkowlzz> Blocks: 834632
1161. # [12:02] <jdm> darkowlzz: what about it?
1162. # [12:03] <darkowlzz> I was waiting due to the last comment
1163. # [12:03] <darkowlzz> does that new Bug means, I can apply for check-in
1164. # [12:03] <darkowlzz> ?
1165. # [12:03] <darkowlzz> no more changes required
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1168. # [12:05] <jdm> darkowlzz: the last comment in the bug you linked is just a patch you attached
1169. # [12:05] <jdm> wrong bug?
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1173. # [12:07] <darkowlzz> jdm: I will be back later, it's difficult to sit in bus and use netbook
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1189. # [12:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f93346711a14 - Chuck Lee - Bug 831628 - 0004. Change worker name. r=yoshi
1190. # [12:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c0e27333599 - Chuck Lee - Bug 831628 - 0005. Test case for Event Download Command : Idle Screen Available. r=yoshi
1191. # [12:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f8b0e4a7e22 - Chuck Lee - Bug 831628 - 0003. Mark event as supported. r=yoshi
1192. # [12:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1183f031c783 - Chuck Lee - Bug 831628 - 0001. Add event object. r=yoshi. sr=sicking
1193. # [12:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3b169983cdb - Chuck Lee - Bug 831628 - 0002. Handle event. r=yoshi
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1214. # [12:44] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, ping!
1215. # [12:45] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg, what should I do about this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831533#c25 ?
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1217. # [12:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8af2dfc0c2a - Jan de Mooij - Bug 833817 part 3 - Replace JSStackFrame with JSAbstractFramePtr. r=luke
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1241. # [13:19] <edmorley_> eugh these intermittent os x m3 leaks are obnoxious
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1243. # [13:19] <edmorley_> I'm sure they've increased in frequency too :-(
1244. # [13:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0c4559f5d2e - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 832665 - Switching back and forth between the music app and FM radio (using home key) causes some unexpected behavior., r=mchen, a=tef+
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1261. # [13:37] <glazou> WOW
1262. # [13:38] <glazou> so Gecko reloads the html5 document if during first pass, it can't find a charset meta element in the first 1024 chars of the document !!!
1263. # [13:38] <glazou> how can JS be notified about it ?!?
1264. # [13:40] <@smaug> what JS ?
1265. # [13:41] <@smaug> anyhow, hsivonen knows the details about meta element handling and charsets
1266. # [13:41] <glazou> chrome
1267. # [13:41] <glazou> the chrome JS loading the document
1268. # [13:42] <glazou> there is nothing in spec saying the charset has to be declared in 1024 first chars, right ?
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1270. # [13:42] <glazou> smaug: http://twitpic.com/by3o3r
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1272. # [13:43] <@smaug> glazou: "The element containing the character encoding declaration must be serialized completely within the first 1024 bytes of the document."
1273. # [13:43] <@ted> i would guess that's a heuristic to deal with the legacy crap we have to deal with
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1275. # [13:43] <glazou> unfortunately, that breaks the editor...
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1277. # [13:43] <glazou> because I'm not notified of the reload
1278. # [13:43] <@ted> sewardj: re-ping when you're around
1279. # [13:44] <@smaug> also "Optionally prescan the byte stream to determine its encoding. The end condition is that the user agent decides that scanning further bytes would not be efficient. User agents are encouraged to only prescan the first 1024 bytes."
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1284. # [13:45] <glazou> encouraged
1285. # [13:45] <@smaug> yes
1286. # [13:45] <glazou> my goodness...
1287. # [13:45] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
1288. # [13:45] <@smaug> makes no sense for browser to scan more
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1290. # [13:45] <@smaug> glazou: why does it break the editor?
1291. # [13:45] <glazou> I have tons of documents here where the charset is declared at the end of the <head> after tons of other stuff including stylesheets
1292. # [13:46] <glazou> smaug: because I start doing things as soon as the load starts
1293. # [13:46] <glazou> so if it's reloaded, I have the wrong document ref
1294. # [13:46] <@ted> is there a way to load about:memory in thunderbird?
1295. # [13:47] <@smaug> glazou: you don't get unload event or anything for the previous document? Or do we actually reuse the same document. Can't remember... this is parsing stuff some hsivonen would know
1296. # [13:47] <@smaug> s/some/so/
1297. # [13:48] <Ms2ger> Putting your charset after content seems like a bad idea
1298. # [13:48] <glazou> Ms2ger: bad idea but all over the world
1299. # [13:48] <glazou> anyway...
1300. # [13:48] <glazou> sigh
1301. # [13:48] <darkowlzz> whimboo, ping!
1302. # [13:48] * glazou goes on daddy duty for 30mins
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1304. # [13:48] <nigelb> heh
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1306. # [13:50] <Pike> ted: lol, yes
1307. # [13:50] <Pike> in the error console, execute window.open('about:memory')
1308. # [13:50] <@ted> hah
1309. # [13:50] <Pike> and then laugh
1310. # [13:51] <@ted> that made my thunderbird go away
1311. # [13:51] <jdm> baha
1312. # [13:51] <nigelb> what? laughing?
1313. # [13:51] <Pike> ted: it did? for me, it opened about:memory in a message compose window
1314. # [13:51] <@ted> yeah, weird, didn't get a crash report dialog or anything
1315. # [13:52] <@ted> i just relaunched and tried it again and now i just get an NS_ERROR_FAILURE in the error console
1316. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> Timestamp: 01/25/2013 01:55:41 PM
1317. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMJSWindow.open]
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1319. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> Source File: javascript:%20window.open('about:memory')
1320. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> Line: 1
1321. # [13:52] <@smaug> crashed here too
1322. # [13:52] <@ted> i'm on the release channel
1323. # [13:52] <@ted> heh
1324. # [13:52] <@ted> if i try it again the process goes away
1325. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> And crashed
1326. # [13:52] <nigelb> 27
1327. # [13:52] <nigelb> grr
1328. # [13:53] <Ms2ger> 42
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1331. # [13:53] <Pike> I'm on earlybird
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1335. # [14:00] <hsivonen> glazou_daddyDuty: that reload has existed since at least 5-digit bug numbers.
1336. # [14:00] <hsivonen> glazou_daddyDuty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61363#c110
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1351. # [14:11] <whimboo> darkowlzz: hi
1352. # [14:12] <darkowlzz> hi
1353. # [14:12] <darkowlzz> whimboo, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831533#c26
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1355. # [14:13] <whimboo> darkowlzz: i'm not the reviewer. if bsmedberg is fine with it we can go ahead
1356. # [14:14] <darkowlzz> whimboo, so it's better to wait until he comments about it
1357. # [14:15] <whimboo> darkowlzz: or ask him.
1358. # [14:16] <darkowlzz> seems to be busy/away, will ping again later
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1360. # [14:17] <darkowlzz> whimboo, thanks :)
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1362. # [14:20] <whimboo> darkowlzz: yw. and thanks for working on that!
1363. # [14:20] <darkowlzz> happy to learn :)
1364. # [14:22] <whimboo> smaug: leaks can now be seen in nightly
1365. # [14:22] <@smaug> whimboo: any changes to about:memory?
1366. # [14:22] <whimboo> smaug: do you want the whole output of verbose?
1367. # [14:23] <whimboo> smaug: looks like 97,530,664 B (20.59%) ── orphan-nodes
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1369. # [14:23] <whimboo> and for the other instance too
1370. # [14:23] <whimboo> 110,193,800 B (23.27%) ── orphan-nodes
1371. # [14:23] <whimboo> i will attach to the bug
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1373. # [14:25] <@smaug> whimboo: any chance you could create new GC/CC logs? hopefully immediately when you start to see the leak, so that the logs don't get huge
1374. # [14:25] * @smaug will be offline soon, but could perhaps analyze the logs tomorrow
1375. # [14:26] <whimboo> smaug: would your addon help here
1376. # [14:26] <whimboo> ?
1377. # [14:27] <@smaug> whimboo: if you know what to look at, then yes
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1380. # [14:27] <@smaug> you could check if documents are leaded
1381. # [14:27] <@smaug> whimboo: it is possible that gc log is need too, but my tool is for cc log only
1382. # [14:28] <whimboo> k
1383. # [14:28] <whimboo> i will check right now
1384. # [14:28] <@smaug> my local cc analyzing scripts do just the same things as about:cc
1385. # [14:28] <whimboo> smaug: do you want to put this xpi up somewhere?
1386. # [14:28] <whimboo> i always have trouble to find it
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1389. # [14:30] <@smaug> whimboo: well, I was going to put it to AMO but that was too difficult
1390. # [14:30] * glazou_daddyDuty is now known as glazou
1391. # [14:30] <@smaug> perhaps I should get it to tree
1392. # [14:30] <@smaug> make it a bit prettier first
1393. # [14:30] <whimboo> that would be great
1394. # [14:31] <@smaug> it is very tiny addon
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1396. # [14:31] <whimboo> smaug: k. so i will let you have a look at
1397. # [14:31] <whimboo> i will produce the cc now
1398. # [14:34] <whimboo> smaug: cc is about 1MB. that's ok?
1399. # [14:34] <whimboo> gc 314MB
1400. # [14:35] <@smaug> 1MB is ok
1401. # [14:35] <@smaug> 314GC, huh
1402. # [14:35] <@smaug> that is less than tiny
1403. # [14:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6007dc902385 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset a0c4559f5d2e for cpp unitest orange
1404. # [14:35] <@smaug> er, "less than tiny" doesn't make sense
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1406. # [14:36] <whimboo> heh. so i will attach the CC log to the bug
1407. # [14:38] <whimboo> smaug: log is up
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1410. # [14:39] <whimboo> smaug: so good thing is with Nightly: 82.10 MB (13.19%) ── heap-unclassified
1411. # [14:39] <whimboo> that's way lesser as with aurora
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1417. # [14:41] <@smaug> whimboo: that is not too big cc graph
1418. # [14:41] <@smaug> 8000 objects
1419. # [14:41] <@smaug> sure, too big, but still...
1420. # [14:42] <@smaug> but ok, looking
1421. # [14:42] <whimboo> sweet
1422. # [14:42] <whimboo> if it's too large I think i can give you a smaller one later
1423. # [14:42] <whimboo> given that I know how to produce it
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1425. # [14:42] <@smaug> so we're leaking all the XBL document
1426. # [14:42] <@smaug> whimboo: do you have XUL cache disabled?
1427. # [14:43] <@smaug> whimboo: it is small enough
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1429. # [14:43] <whimboo> ups. that was a copy of an old profile
1430. # [14:43] <whimboo> yes it was disabled
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1432. # [14:44] <whimboo> but should we leak in such a case?
1433. # [14:44] <@smaug> whimboo: disabling XUL cache is not supported setup
1434. # [14:44] <@smaug> yes, we don't care about that case
1435. # [14:44] <@smaug> since everything behaves differently anyway
1436. # [14:44] <@smaug> it is development only setup
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1438. # [14:44] <whimboo> ok, so let me restart then
1439. # [14:45] <@smaug> whimboo: we're talking about nglayout.debug.disable_xul_cache here, right :)
1440. # [14:45] <whimboo> i know :)
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1442. # [14:47] <whimboo> smaug: looks like it's starting again
1443. # [14:47] <whimboo> 2.03 MB (01.32%) ── orphan-nodes
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1448. # [14:48] <whimboo> smaug: shall i wait until it's a big higher?
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1454. # [14:48] <@smaug> whimboo: you could wait a bit...
1455. # [14:49] <whimboo> smaug: k, how long would you prefer? until it reaches about 10MB or so?
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1460. # [14:50] <@smaug> whimboo: do you have about:cc installed?
1461. # [14:51] <whimboo> smaug: yes
1462. # [14:51] <whimboo> but not sure what to do with it
1463. # [14:51] <@smaug> could you run cc and see the size of the graph
1464. # [14:51] <Pike> what's the name of the camera thingies we use to show phones during presentations? camera, and that feeds to the projector/video stream
1465. # [14:51] <@smaug> graph size ~10000 should be enough
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1468. # [14:51] <@smaug> whimboo: run CC few times to get stable results
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1470. # [14:51] <whimboo> smaug: where do i see that?
1471. # [14:52] <@smaug> whimboo: in the addon
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1473. # [14:52] <whimboo> smaug: sure.. number of objects?
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1475. # [14:52] <whimboo> or roots, edges
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1477. # [14:52] <@smaug> whimboo: number of objects
1478. # [14:52] <whimboo> k, at 353 right now
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1481. # [14:53] <@smaug> whimboo: I'd expect something like 10000
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1483. # [14:53] <@smaug> though, the previous log had 8000
1484. # [14:53] <@smaug> whimboo: if you get it to 5000
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1487. # [14:53] <whimboo> smaug: orphaned nodes are already at 15MB
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1489. # [14:53] <@smaug> sure
1490. # [14:53] <@smaug> JS keeping nodes alive
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1492. # [14:54] <whimboo> so you still want to have the 10.000 limit?
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1494. # [14:54] <@smaug> but the js is black (certainly alive) so those nodes can't be released
1495. # [14:54] <@smaug> whimboo: 5000 could be enough
1496. # [14:54] <whimboo> k lets wait when I reach that
1497. # [14:55] <whimboo> smaug: so when I run cc it always drops down to about 200 again
1498. # [14:55] <paul> I have a CSS flex box question: http://jsbin.com/akojuq/6/edit <- can anybody help?
1499. # [14:55] <whimboo> seems I can't get over 500
1500. # [14:56] <@smaug> whimboo: ahaa
1501. # [14:56] <@smaug> whimboo: so do you actually get leak
1502. # [14:56] <@smaug> I mean if you close the tab
1503. # [14:56] <@smaug> now that xul cache is enabled
1504. # [14:57] <whimboo> smaug: shall I close the tab and run cc?
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1509. # [14:58] <@smaug> whimboo: yes, and check what about:memory says
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1511. # [14:58] <whimboo> smaug: hm, i think the addon initializes wrongly
1512. # [14:58] <whimboo> when I tried to run 'Run cycle collector' it did nothing
1513. # [14:59] <whimboo> now after closing the tab I get 220000 objects
1514. # [14:59] <@smaug> that is very possibe
1515. # [14:59] <@smaug> whimboo: run cc few times
1516. # [14:59] <whimboo> oh, right
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1518. # [14:59] <whimboo> yes. it cleans up everything
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1520. # [14:59] <whimboo> back at 200 objects
1521. # [15:00] <@smaug> so it was garbage that we collected
1522. # [15:00] <whimboo> and about:memory doesn't list the page anymore
1523. # [15:00] <whimboo> that means it's really the website which is leaking memory
1524. # [15:00] <@smaug> and memory usage is back to normal levels?
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1526. # [15:00] <whimboo> just a sec. will repeat iwth the other tab
1527. # [15:00] <@smaug> well, "leaking", but yes, the website keeps objects alive
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1530. # [15:02] <whimboo> smaug: err, now I'm at 1GB
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1532. # [15:02] <whimboo> is that because of your addon?
1533. # [15:03] <whimboo> seems like
1534. # [15:03] <whimboo> 391.25 MB (61.12%) -- top(about:cc, id=28)/active/window(about:cc)
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1536. # [15:03] <whimboo> smaug: wohoo. back to normal.. 240MB
1537. # [15:04] <@smaug> whimboo: well, about:cc may use a lot of memory if the graph is huge
1538. # [15:04] <whimboo> smaug: so if I can help to analyze which js is holding that please tell me the steps
1539. # [15:05] <@smaug> thinking...
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1542. # [15:05] <@smaug> whimboo: perhaps the best is to get cc and gc logs
1543. # [15:05] <@smaug> before they are too huge
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1546. # [15:05] <@smaug> especially gc log is needed
1547. # [15:06] <@smaug> since it is probably page keeping some js alive which ends up keeping nodes alive ...
1548. # [15:06] <whimboo> ok, will give those in a bit
1549. # [15:06] <glazou> hsivonen: ok, but this is first time my users hit it
1550. # [15:06] <glazou> I have a fix though
1551. # [15:07] <glazou> so nm
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1553. # [15:07] <whimboo> smaug: is 50MB for GC fine?
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1556. # [15:08] <@smaug> whimboo: uh, that is quite big one
1557. # [15:08] <whimboo> gna. let me restart then
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1559. # [15:09] <@smaug> whimboo: so, I need to go soon, but could you record this conversation to the bug, so that it is clear that it is the page which is leaking
1560. # [15:10] <whimboo> smaug: i cna't get it under 40MB
1561. # [15:10] <@smaug> whimboo: put it to some server and I'll download it from there?
1562. # [15:10] <whimboo> sure
1563. # [15:10] <whimboo> thanks
1564. # [15:10] <@smaug> and put cc log too
1565. # [15:10] <whimboo> will comemnt in the bug
1566. # [15:10] <@smaug> thanks
1567. # [15:10] <whimboo> sure
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1569. # [15:13] <whimboo> smaug: http://people.mozilla.com/~hskupin/downloads/
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1576. # [15:15] <ddahl> NeilAway: thank you, i was starting over with a foreign .mozconfig and missed that completely!
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1584. # [15:19] <NeilAway> ddahl: np
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1593. # [15:23] <sewardj> ted: pong
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1595. # [15:24] <@ted> sewardj: hey, so, getting these patches upstreamable is taking me longer than i expected
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1598. # [15:24] <@ted> primarily because we don't build the breakpad unittests as part of the mozilla build
1599. # [15:25] <@ted> so there was a bunch of tweaking i had to do to make them build
1600. # [15:25] <sewardj> ted: o-k ..I see you added a bunch of tests to the Module::Expr patch from yesterday (thanks for that)
1601. # [15:25] <@ted> so two things, one, i'm going to plan to just get these patches somewhat settled and ready for upstream review, but not block on upstream landing
1602. # [15:25] <@ted> we'll take them locally even though i'm normally opposed to that
1603. # [15:26] <sewardj> ted: ok.
1604. # [15:26] <@ted> two, i hit a few issues with the UniqueStringMap patch in tests
1605. # [15:26] <@ted> it's probably a bug in how i fixed the tests, but i might need you to take a look
1606. # [15:26] <sewardj> hmm, what sort of problem(s) ?
1607. # [15:26] <@ted> it's failing this testunwind test
1608. # [15:26] <@ted> but the other stackwalker tests are passing, so i don't think it's a systemic bug
1609. # [15:26] <@ted> http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/source/browse/trunk/src/processor/cfi_frame_info_unittest.cc#492
1610. # [15:26] <@ted> this test
1611. # [15:27] <@ted> i can probably pastebin the patched version
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1617. # [15:29] <@ted> sewardj: http://cpp.pastebin.mozilla.org/2085384
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1620. # [15:29] <pnemsak> helo guys, we're having some trouble trying to install a non-amo xpi in the current stable Firefox. the installation complains about non-built-in certificate when the xpi gets downloaded
1621. # [15:29] <sewardj> ted: so it's the commented out test at line 144 that fails?
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1623. # [15:30] <pnemsak> the cert is issued by Go Daddy, which is afaik built in. what might be the problem?
1624. # [15:30] <@ted> sewardj: oh, that's actually a separate issue
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1626. # [15:31] <@ted> the tests use CFIFrameInfo.Serialize(), but that's harder to unit test now, because register names don't sort alphabetically
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1628. # [15:31] <@ted> (they presumably sort by UniqueString* address)
1629. # [15:31] <@ted> the test on line 503, SimpleWalker.Walk
1630. # [15:31] <sewardj> er, possibly so
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1632. # [15:31] <@ted> sewardj: oh, i actually had this issue with just the UniqueString patch
1633. # [15:32] <@ted> not the UniqueStringMap
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1635. # [15:32] <@ted> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2085387
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1638. # [15:32] <@ted> something is clearly going badly wrong there
1639. # [15:32] <@ted> but that's the only test failing (which is otherwise pretty impressive)
1640. # [15:33] <sewardj> ted: I have to step out in about 1/4 hour, but can chase this as soon as I get back
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1643. # [15:33] <@ted> sewardj: okay, great, ping me when you get back
1644. # [15:33] <sewardj> ted: other organisational things: do you want to mail benwa to update him, or shall I ?
1645. # [15:33] <@ted> sewardj: the other issue i found is that lots of the tests want to iterate over the contents of the dictionary
1646. # [15:33] <@ted> and UniqueStringMap doesn't provide that
1647. # [15:34] <@ted> so i punted for now and commented out some bits of tests
1648. # [15:34] <sewardj> ted: ok, sounds like some fixery is in order
1649. # [15:34] <@ted> yeah
1650. # [15:34] <@ted> don't think it's insurmountable
1651. # [15:34] <@ted> overall it's looking fairly good, honestly
1652. # [15:34] <@ted> breakpad has a load of tests and they're mostly passing once i tweaked things
1653. # [15:34] <@ted> i'll email benwa with an update
1654. # [15:34] <sewardj> ted: oh, ok .. I am worried I am wasting tons of your time with my grotty hacks
1655. # [15:34] <@ted> heh
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1657. # [15:35] <sewardj> ted: other thing is, I really ought to start refresing the main SPS profiler patch
1658. # [15:35] <@ted> i don't think it's that bad, it's my fault that we don't build the breakpad unit tests in a mozilla build
1659. # [15:35] <@ted> okay
1660. # [15:35] <@ted> yeah, i'm hopeful to have most of these patches ready to go in another day or two
1661. # [15:35] <@ted> so that you could refresh just the mozilla bits of your patches on top
1662. # [15:35] <sewardj> yeah
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1664. # [15:36] <sewardj> well, I will go and get my hair cut, and try to repro current problem as soon as I get back
1665. # [15:36] <@ted> ok :)
1666. # [15:36] <sewardj> ted: thanks for chasing this around
1667. # [15:36] <@ted> np
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1669. # [15:36] <@ted> thanks for doing all the actual hard work
1670. # [15:37] <sewardj> I feel like I did the easy bit. Wrangling with upstream and m-c integration is the hard bit :)
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1706. # [16:05] <armenzg> edmorley_: philor|away I'm going to re-open the tree
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1713. # [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5197fd796303 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 832665 - Switching back and forth between the music app and FM radio (using home key) causes some unexpected behavior., r=mchen
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1716. # [16:11] <darkowlzz> can anyone help me with this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828347? I still can't understand it properly.
1717. # [16:13] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Your suppose to add a deprecation warning to the syncInit method.
1718. # [16:14] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, yes, but how and where exactly in syncInit() ?
1719. # [16:14] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: It's up to you.
1720. # [16:14] <darkowlzz> should I import Deprecated.jsm?
1721. # [16:15] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Yes. I believe so.
1722. # [16:15] <JosiahOne> If it isn't already.
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1724. # [16:16] <ekr> I'm seeing complaints from clang on Mountain Lion about delete being called on non-virtual dtors on inbound trunk. I have some memory that there was a generic fix for this?
1725. # [16:16] <darkowlzz> any idea how do I get the right path of Deprecated.jsm to import it as this Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/Services.jsm");
1726. # [16:16] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, ^
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1728. # [16:17] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: One sec.
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1730. # [16:17] <darkowlzz> ah! :)
1731. # [16:17] <padenot> ekr: MOZ_FINAL?
1732. # [16:17] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Did you find something?
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1734. # [16:18] <ekr> Uh, I dunno. This isn't in my code, it's in the middle of netwerk/
1735. # [16:18] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, no, you gave me some hope :)
1736. # [16:18] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Let's "hope" so.
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1739. # [16:20] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Okay, I think it is just resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm
1740. # [16:20] <JosiahOne> Same as Services really. They are in the same directory.
1741. # [16:21] <darkowlzz> oh yeah!
1742. # [16:22] <ekr> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2085415
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1746. # [16:22] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Easy enough.
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1748. # [16:23] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne, thanks, but it's not over yet, I will get back to you :D
1749. # [16:24] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Alright, good luck!
1750. # [16:24] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Or try your best. Since I don't think luck will help here. :)
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1753. # [16:27] <nemo> So. It seems very unfair to me that flash can capture *all* keystrokes. But our javascript/webgl port can't
1754. # [16:28] <JosiahOne> nemo: Really?
1755. # [16:28] <nemo> Even, amusingly, when it doesn't seem to need the jeystrokes at all
1756. # [16:28] <nemo> keystrokes
1757. # [16:28] <nemo> if I click on:
1758. # [16:28] <nemo> hm. that's a long URL
1759. # [16:28] <nemo> well. I clicked to focus on the expanded chart for AAPL on finance.google.com
1760. # [16:28] <JosiahOne> nemo: eh, just post it.
1761. # [16:29] <nemo> and suddenly couldn't ctrl-pageup/ctrl-pagedown. As an experiment, I unfocused, hit F11 to "fullscreen" then focused on the chart and pressed all the F keys and esc
1762. # [16:29] <nemo> none responded
1763. # [16:29] <nemo> By contrast, our game, which uses F1-F10 for hotkeys, and esc to bring up the quit dialog, can't fully capture F6 and Esc
1764. # [16:29] <JosiahOne> nemo: So flash "stole" the strokes?
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1766. # [16:29] <nemo> Yeah. Doesn't bubble
1767. # [16:30] <JosiahOne> nemo: And javascript does not possess this ability?
1768. # [16:30] <nemo> naw. they are concerned I guess w/ a site preventing player from leaving fullscreen
1769. # [16:30] <JosiahOne> Or curse, whichever one.
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1773. # [16:31] <nemo> JosiahOne: so, I guess if I want Esc and F6 to work right in our webgl game, I should make a flash wrapper :D :D
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1777. # [16:31] <JosiahOne> nemo: Oh I see. Hmm, I guess so.
1778. # [16:31] <JosiahOne> nemo: That's kind of annoying though.
1779. # [16:32] <nemo> JosiahOne: here's a (rude) example of why they do it... http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase270.xhtml - this one tries to capture all keystrokes. if Esc and F6 weren't allowed, leaving fullscreen would be rather difficult
1780. # [16:32] <nemo> JosiahOne: I dunno. I just wish there was some way to negotiate doing this w/ the player. Esp since flash is allowed to do it :)
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1782. # [16:33] <edmorley_> "it appears that x64 nightly builds have been stopped since 09JAN13 by neglect"
1783. # [16:33] <edmorley_> those naughty developers trying to land code
1784. # [16:33] <nemo> edmorley_: huh. my x64 nightly works fine
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1786. # [16:33] <edmorley_> dev.apps.firefox
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1788. # [16:33] <nemo> edmorley_: and is happily doing stuff like this: http://m8y.org/tmp/ffbug2/ (a second lockup w/ 100% CPU usage completely unrelated to my other lockup w/ 100% CPU usage)
1789. # [16:34] <nemo> ah
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1791. # [16:34] <edmorley_> nemo: win64
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1795. # [16:35] <nemo> JosiahOne: Actually, if they just let us capture F6, I could deal w/ Esc being magic
1796. # [16:35] <nemo> JosiahOne: but. the flash thing might be an amusing solution :D
1797. # [16:35] <JosiahOne> nemo: I'm surprised there is no way to override the ESC key/F6.
1798. # [16:35] <nemo> just make an invisible flash applet over the entire page
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1800. # [16:36] <JosiahOne> nemo: You could, but then you have to deal with stupid flash.
1801. # [16:36] <nemo> have it pass all keys to the webgl
1802. # [16:36] <nemo> meh :D
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1805. # [16:37] <JosiahOne> nemo: Not sure, but does this help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7218581/esc-key-not-getting-recognized-in-firefox
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1808. # [16:38] <NeilAway> ekr: try disabling warnings-as-errors in your .mozconfig
1809. # [16:38] <JosiahOne> nemo: Of course, now it leaves fullscreen, instead of stops loading a page, but it might work.
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1811. # [16:38] <ekr> neilaway: I don't have it set.
1812. # [16:39] <nemo> JosiahOne: I already have preventDefault on that testcase270.xhtml
1813. # [16:39] <ekr> Do I need too disable it?
1814. # [16:39] <ekr> oh, wait, I apparently do.
1815. # [16:39] <ekr> Thansk!
1816. # [16:39] <JosiahOne> nemo: And it didn't help?
1817. # [16:39] <nemo> if (evt.preventDefault) evt.preventDefault(); if (evt.stopPropagation) evt.stopPropagation(); evt.cancelBubble = true; evt.returnValue = false; return false;
1818. # [16:39] <nemo> JosiahOne: clearly doesn't :)
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1820. # [16:39] <nemo> JosiahOne: try going fullscreen and then hitting esc
1821. # [16:39] <JosiahOne> With the link you provided?
1822. # [16:40] <nemo> yeah
1823. # [16:40] <JosiahOne> nemo: Yeah, it just leaves fullscreen.
1824. # [16:40] <NeilAway> ekr: well, you're getting -Werror from somewhere...
1825. # [16:40] <nemo> JosiahOne: anyway. as noted, Esc isn't a huge deal. that's just the quit dialog for us. but F6 is really annoying in-game
1826. # [16:40] <nemo> Since that's a weapon hot-switch
1827. # [16:40] <nemo> JosiahOne: try hitting F6 when fullscreened
1828. # [16:40] <JosiahOne> nemo: Okay, one sec.
1829. # [16:40] <jimm> Anyone know what version of fedora our test slaves use?
1830. # [16:40] <Ms2ger> ekr, how old is your clang?
1831. # [16:40] <ekr> neilaway: no, your'e right: I just didnt realized that the person who had given me this mozconfig had that set
1832. # [16:41] <JosiahOne> nemo: The website writes 117.
1833. # [16:41] <JosiahOne> nemo: oops.
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1835. # [16:42] <JosiahOne> nnemo: I forgot how to use those keys. OS X overrides them.
1836. # [16:42] <JosiahOne> I thought I just hold Fn and press them?
1837. # [16:42] <nemo> JosiahOne: Esc cancels fullscreen (fine, whatever) and F6 drops down the URL bar. But if you hit F11 on finance.google.com then click on one of their flash charts, then hit F6, F6 does not drop down the menu
1838. # [16:42] <nemo> JosiahOne: ah. dunno. When I'm on an OSX machine, fixing the F keys is the first thing I do :D
1839. # [16:43] <nemo> JosiahOne: there's an option to make them work normally in the setup
1840. # [16:43] <nemo> JosiahOne: w/o it, OSX players lose at games pretty quickly :D
1841. # [16:43] <JosiahOne> nemo: Actually, I think mine is working. The site output works until you get to F7.
1842. # [16:44] <JosiahOne> nemo: But the value changes depending on wether you are holding Fn or not.
1843. # [16:44] <nemo> JosiahOne: ok. If you hit F6, you don't get the URL bar and tabs reappearing?
1844. # [16:44] <JosiahOne> nemo: Nope.
1845. # [16:44] <nemo> huh. wth.
1846. # [16:45] <nemo> JosiahOne: and you fullscreened first??
1847. # [16:45] <nemo> JosiahOne: and you *are* using firefox? :D
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1849. # [16:45] <JosiahOne> nemo: Yes and yes. :)
1850. # [16:45] <nemo> …
1851. # [16:45] * nemo sighs and tests on his osx machine
1852. # [16:45] <nemo> hm. wonder if results using synergy are reliable
1853. # [16:46] <JosiahOne> nemo: Not sure.
1854. # [16:46] <jdm> nemo: F6 pops down the url bar for me on linux, but also registers as 117
1855. # [16:46] <nemo> jdm: yeah. the event registers fine. so you can use F6 in game
1856. # [16:47] <nemo> jdm: is just your game screen gets jerked around due to the url bar
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1858. # [16:47] <nemo> jdm: in other words, can't jam propagation. presumably is intended to avoid trapping users
1859. # [16:47] <JosiahOne> nemo: Weird, doesn't happen for me.
1860. # [16:47] <jdm> yeah, fun.
1861. # [16:47] <nemo> jdm: IMO Esc is adequate for that. Way way more likely to press Esc than F6 to attempt to esc an evil site that fullscreened you
1862. # [16:47] <nemo> jdm: ofc you'dve had to have clicked allow for the evil site in the first place :D
1863. # [16:47] <jdm> I know, F6 is a weird choice to me.
1864. # [16:48] <JosiahOne> nemo: Is it possible to just change the toggle keys?
1865. # [16:49] <JosiahOne> nemo: numpad or something?
1866. # [16:49] <nemo> JosiahOne: woah. works fine on OSX!
1867. # [16:49] <nemo> OMG!
1868. # [16:49] <nemo> huh. Maybe I should file a bug on this then. I'd assumed it was deliberate
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1870. # [16:49] <nemo> but platform specific...
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1872. # [16:50] <nemo> JosiahOne: BTW, is kinda weird. on my OSX machine, it doesn't go tooootally fullscreen - there's like 5 or 10px of the interface along the top of the screen.
1873. # [16:50] <JosiahOne> nemo: It makes sense. We probably changed the shortcut to do this on OS X, as OS X overrides the Fx keys.
1874. # [16:50] <JosiahOne> nemo: And I don't have that problem
1875. # [16:50] <nemo> hrm
1876. # [16:50] <nemo> JosiahOne: but F6 still focuses the URL bar on OSX - so the shortcut is clearly unchanged
1877. # [16:50] <nemo> is just that propagation prevention is permitted.
1878. # [16:51] <JosiahOne> nemo: Interesting.
1879. # [16:51] <JosiahOne> nemo: I'll be back, I have to go do something real quick.
1880. # [16:51] <nemo> JosiahOne: changing the bindings for switching between the 10 wep sets is totally doable, but a pain for players who are adapted to it. Also, the F keys are really ideal for this purpose. We are already using a bunch of the other keys for other things
1881. # [16:51] <nemo> JosiahOne: my advice to OSX players is usually to fix the stupid OSX defaults :-p
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1883. # [16:52] <nemo> JosiahOne: I'm way less inclined to change screen brightness than I am to hit F1 for help. And the apps I use also make heavy use of F5, F6, F10...
1884. # [16:53] <nemo> JosiahOne: is also funny that after going out of their way to clobber defaults for F keys, they went and added F13-F19 that are neeeever used, and got rid of some pretty darn important keys to do so.
1885. # [16:53] <nemo> JosiahOne: so I also have a script to rebind those to restore my insert key for example.
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1890. # [16:56] <JosiahOne> nemo: Probably a good idea, but because Apple is so controlling, they just expect you to change the shortcuts...
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1892. # [16:57] <JosiahOne> nemo: It's really dumb.
1893. # [16:57] <nemo> oh well. thanks much for that F6 info. Ima gonna file a bug now :D
1894. # [16:57] <nemo> hm. let's see what my windows machine does...
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1896. # [16:58] <nemo> ok F6 capture is messed up on Win and Linux - only OSX Firefox appears to allow propagation prevention when fullscreened
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1899. # [16:58] <JosiahOne> nemo: Weird.
1900. # [16:58] <nemo> Well. End result of bug might be someone making it halt propagation on OSX too ;)
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1902. # [16:58] <nemo> er. prevent halting of propagation
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1904. # [16:59] <JosiahOne> nemo: Yeah. :)
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1919. # [17:07] <nemo> JosiahOne: BTW, if you'd like to see the webport... Disclaimer, this version is rather old. Since then we broke the build process and game sync, so still need to fix that. Also, game makes heavy use of uint64, so suffers from lack of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749786
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1921. # [17:08] <JosiahOne> nemo: Ah.
1922. # [17:08] <nemo> JosiahOne: well. anyway. http://hedgewars.org/hwjs/hwjs.html
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1924. # [17:09] <nemo> Well. Since it is pascal, it really makes heavy use of QWord, but anyway :D
1925. # [17:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce79b39c6e0e - Jinsu Oh - Bug 791654 - Add Save Video/Audio to context menus. r=wesj
1926. # [17:10] <JosiahOne> nemo: Hedge Wars. Hehe.
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1929. # [17:11] <JosiahOne> nemo: Anyway, good luck. I have to get back to work. :(
1930. # [17:11] <nemo> hm. probably should do that too ;)
1931. # [17:11] <nemo> l8r
1932. # [17:11] <JosiahOne> nemo: Lol, yeah.
1933. # [17:11] <jgilbert> ehsan: ping
1934. # [17:12] <@ehsan> hi
1935. # [17:12] * jgilbert waves
1936. # [17:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f28ae1d9b685 - James Willcox - Bug 768000 - Fix up the mutex handling in the prior patch r=blassey
1937. # [17:12] <jgilbert> ehsan: how hard is it to call JS from content C++ code?
1938. # [17:12] <jgilbert> and/or who's a good person to ask
1939. # [17:13] <@ehsan> jgilbert: if you do that through xpconnect, it's pretty easy
1940. # [17:13] <@ehsan> just have a js component and call it like any other XPCOM component
1941. # [17:13] <@ehsan> would that work for you?
1942. # [17:13] <jgilbert> ehsan: not being that familiar with xpconnect, it sounds fine
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1944. # [17:14] <@ehsan> we have tons of xpcom compnents implemented in JS
1945. # [17:14] <@ehsan> let me dig out an example
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1947. # [17:15] <@ehsan> jgilbert: this is the barebone: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/privatebrowsing/src/nsPrivateBrowsingServiceObsolete.js
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1949. # [17:15] <@ehsan> jgilbert: the interface being implemented there has no methods or properties
1950. # [17:15] <@ehsan> if it did, you would create new functions on the PrivateBrowsingService's prototype
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1952. # [17:16] <@ehsan> and xpconnect would do the magic for you
1953. # [17:16] <@ehsan> jgilbert: (you also need a manifest file like this to register your component with xpcom: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/privatebrowsing/src/nsPrivateBrowsingServiceObsolete.manifest)
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1955. # [17:16] <@ehsan> jgilbert: also see the associated rules in the Makefile.in in that dir
1956. # [17:16] <@ehsan> and let me know if you need help
1957. # [17:16] <jgilbert> ehsan: great, thanks
1958. # [17:16] <jgilbert> and will do :)
1959. # [17:17] <@ehsan> cool
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1961. # [17:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4e3590aa1da - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 834153 - Queue CreateAnswer State Checks, remove extraneous _executeNext calls. r=jesup
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1969. # [17:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a2c4f450e07 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 834153 - Mochitest. r=ekr
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1972. # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/afdf04262e61 - Kai Engert - Bug 834741, NSPR_4_9_5_BETA2 and NSS_3_14_2_BETA2, r=wtc
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1978. # [17:27] <Optimizer> what is the Firefox 20 release date ?
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1980. # [17:27] <@bsmedberg> Optimizer: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
1981. # [17:27] <Optimizer> ah , got it
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1983. # [17:28] <Optimizer> thanks bsmedberg
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1989. # [17:32] <sewardj> ted: ping
1990. # [17:33] <@ted> sewardj: pong
1991. # [17:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9441271bdb45 - Raymond Lee - Bug 806723 - Port plugin test_privatemode.xul to the new per-tab PB APIs r=jdm
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1993. # [17:34] <sewardj> ted: so .. trying to figure out how to repro the problem you mentioned. Presumably I check out breakpad svn trunk and then apply your version of the Module::Expr patch?
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1995. # [17:34] <@ted> sewardj: yeah, it's probably a pain, i wonder if it'd be easier to just give you ssh access to my machine
1996. # [17:34] <sewardj> ted: well, it
1997. # [17:35] <sewardj> 's surely not that difficult?
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2042. # [17:58] <nemo> Man. Can hardly way for FF19 and viewport units...
2043. # [17:58] <nemo> *wait
2044. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> Let's disable them
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2048. # [17:59] <ctalbert> sicking: where is the vidyo room for this meeting?
2049. # [17:59] <ctalbert> (there are people in noise pop)
2050. # [17:59] <sicking> ctalbert: my room
2051. # [17:59] <ctalbert> ah ok
2052. # [18:00] * lsblakk|afk is now known as lsblakk
2053. # [18:00] <sicking> ctalbert: i don't think anyone is in SF other than you
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2055. # [18:01] <sicking> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/marionette-mochitest-brainstorm
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2057. # [18:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb038730d5f1 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 832101 - Don't fluff out click targets for events from non-touch input [r=roc]
2058. # [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d55997bd0019 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 833663 - Set MOZ_SOURCE_TOUCH for simulated mouse events in Gonk [r=cjones]
2059. # [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2692ef57acaa - Matt Brubeck - Bug 789358 - Re-enable click target fluffing in B2G [r=cjones]
2060. # [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34fea220185d - Matt Brubeck - Bug 832101 - Allow EventUtils.sendMouseEvent to set pressure and inputSource [r=smaug]
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2063. # [18:04] <mwu> joe: should I wait for glenn's review this time?
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2067. # [18:07] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: ping!
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2073. # [18:08] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: pong
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2075. # [18:08] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: hi, I need help with this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828347
2076. # [18:09] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: shoot
2077. # [18:09] <darkowlzz> okay
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2079. # [18:10] <darkowlzz> to implement Deprecated function in #l60, should I import the module?
2080. # [18:11] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: ^
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2082. # [18:11] <darkowlzz> and then a single line containing the label 'warning'
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2085. # [18:12] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: yes, import "resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm"
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2089. # [18:13] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: and then at the top of syncInit() call Deprecated.warning()
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2092. # [18:13] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: that's it?
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2094. # [18:14] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: I think so, yeah
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2096. # [18:14] <jdm> the test in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a45739b82322 shows this, too
2097. # [18:14] <joe> mwu: yes
2098. # [18:14] <joe> mwu: glennrp is generally very fast though
2099. # [18:14] <mwu> joe: ok, no prob
2100. # [18:14] <mwu> just making sure
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2105. # [18:17] <darkowlzz> ttaubert, jdm thanks :)
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2107. # [18:17] <darkowlzz> it's strange that whatever bug I work on are based on toolkit :D
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2124. # [18:23] <JosiahOne> Darkowlzz: How's it coming?
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2130. # [18:25] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: just have a look at this line 8 and 18 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2085618
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2132. # [18:25] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne: good, I think it's done
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2134. # [18:26] <darkowlzz> thanks to ttaubert and jdm and yourself :D
2135. # [18:26] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne: ^
2136. # [18:26] <JosiahOne> Darkowlzz: Yep, looks like it. Good job.
2137. # [18:26] <JosiahOne> And thank you. But I didn't do much. :)
2138. # [18:27] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne: you showed me how to import that module
2139. # [18:27] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: works. now we just need a good deprecation message
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2143. # [18:27] <darkowlzz> deprecation message! shouldn't that be in Deprecated.jsm module?
2144. # [18:27] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: ^
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2146. # [18:28] <JosiahOne> Ttaubert: Oops. This is deprecated. :(
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2148. # [18:28] <JosiahOne> I like that. :)
2149. # [18:28] <ttaubert> darkowlzz: take a look at the examples in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a45739b82322
2150. # [18:28] <ttaubert> you should pass a message (and URL? not sure) to the warning funciton
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2153. # [18:30] <JosiahOne> Ttaubert: Why URLs ever? Do we usually have some?
2154. # [18:30] <darkowlzz> aha... got it
2155. # [18:30] <ttaubert> I don't really know what the url is for
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2157. # [18:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6051da676c88 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 286491 - Add crashtest.
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2159. # [18:30] <darkowlzz> but not sure about the url
2160. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f5d453c4a28 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 321224 - Add crashtest.
2161. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1b9d63c8482 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 341382 - Add crashtests.
2162. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b8bb5a15307 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 325377 - Add crashtest.
2163. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/308b0c3494ef - Mats Palmgren - Bug 344557 - Add crashtests.
2164. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a66fa7e626b4 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 255982 - Add crashtests.
2165. # [18:31] <darkowlzz> without URL warning message won't be reported
2166. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3834a081d85d - Mats Palmgren - Bug 309322 - Add crashtests.
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2168. # [18:31] <JosiahOne> Darkowlzz: Really?
2169. # [18:32] <darkowlzz> JosiahOne: yes, dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/toolkit/content/Deprecated.jsm.html?string=Deprecated.jsm#l66
2170. # [18:33] <JosiahOne> Darkowlzz: sweet. Good job.
2171. # [18:34] <darkowlzz> jdm: any idea about the url? ^
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2176. # [18:35] <jdm> darkowlzz: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/toolkit/content/Deprecated.jsm.html?string=Deprecated.jsm#l52
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2182. # [18:36] <NeilAway> darkowlzz: maybe a URL to the documentation?
2183. # [18:36] <darkowlzz> jdm: yes, I have read that, but which doc
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2185. # [18:37] <darkowlzz> oh! NeilAway which doc?
2186. # [18:37] <jdm> darkowlzz: did the original bug specify what's replacing the deprecated function?
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2189. # [18:37] <darkowlzz> jdm: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828347
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2191. # [18:38] <jdm> darkowlzz: take a look at the bug referenced in the original comment there
2192. # [18:38] <jdm> see if any documentation pops out
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2194. # [18:40] <NeilAway> darkowlzz: well, you could link to bug 532150 perhaps, or even 828347 itself
2195. # [18:41] <JosiahOne> Yeah, that would work. If there are no docs.
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2197. # [18:44] <darkowlzz> okay, I have done this: Deprecated.warning("Oops. This is deprecated. :(", "https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828347");
2198. # [18:44] <darkowlzz> hope that works
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2200. # [18:45] <darkowlzz> but how do I test it?
2201. # [18:45] <darkowlzz> ttaubert: any way to test it?
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2206. # [18:47] <JosiahOne> Darkowlzz: You would need to write something that would call thwt
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2208. # [18:48] <JosiahOne> Can tests be used for that? I have never used them.
2209. # [18:48] <Mook_as> darkowlzz: could the message mention what is deprecated? (in this case, I guess something like "Synchronous usages of session storage is deprecated; please see bug 828347)
2210. # [18:49] <darkowlzz> ah! :D that's really good
2211. # [18:49] <Mook_as> of course, comment 2 actually points at the search service for some reason, so you'll have to figure out what it's actually trying to do... :D
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2217. # [18:51] <darkowlzz> but I better wait for Yoric and see what he suggests
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2219. # [18:51] <darkowlzz> Mook_as: thanks :{D
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2223. # [18:54] <@bsmedberg> jlebar|away: ping
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2229. # [18:57] <@bz> Is it reasonable to write something like this:
2230. # [18:57] <@bz> nsAutoPtr<foo> GetFoo() { return new foo; }
2231. # [18:57] <@bz> And then have callers use it like so:
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2233. # [18:57] <@bz> nsAutoPtr<foo> myFoo = GetFoo();
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2236. # [18:58] * @bz is trying to avoid leaks while also avoiding objects getting weirdly deleted
2237. # [18:58] * NeilAway would just write foo * NewFoo()
2238. # [18:58] <NeilAway> oh, leaks
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2240. # [18:58] <@bsmedberg> bz: That... doesn't sound very good to me
2241. # [18:58] <@bz> I guess it doesn't matter that much, since I'll be the only caller....
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2243. # [18:59] * @bz just returns raw ptr
2244. # [18:59] <NeilAway> should work though because of nsAutoPtr's assignment operator
2245. # [18:59] <@bsmedberg> bz: there's getter_Transfers...
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2249. # [19:01] <@bz> bsmedberg: yeah
2250. # [19:01] * @bz pokes at his APIs some more
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2254. # [19:02] <@bsmedberg> can memory reporters be written in JS?
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2257. # [19:04] <khuey> in theory maybe
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2261. # [19:04] <NeilAway> how would you write aMallocSizeOf in JS?
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2275. # [19:10] <@bz> ../../../../mozilla/layout/inspector/src/inDOMUtils.cpp:314:32: error: no viable conversion from 'nsCSSSelectorList *' to 'nsAutoPtr<nsCSSSelectorList>'
2276. # [19:10] <@bz> nsAutoPtr<nsCSSSelectorList> sel = tail->Clone(false);
2277. # [19:10] <@bz> What the?
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2279. # [19:11] <jlebar|away> NeilAway: bsmedberg: There are "memory reporters" that don't report a value in MB; one of those it could conceivably make sense to write in JS.
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2283. # [19:13] <tbsaunde> bz: you need to do cell(Foo()) because otherwise we'd need to write a nsAutoPtr constructor that takes a const nsAutoPtr which is fun because that constructor would have to mutate the argument
2284. # [19:14] <@bz> hrm
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2286. # [19:14] <@bz> ok
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2290. # [19:15] <@dbaron> bz, yeah, the thing you're writing has an implicit copy-constructor in it, and nsAutoPtr doesn't have a non-const copy-constructor
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2293. # [19:15] <@dbaron> bz, or something like that
2294. # [19:15] <glandium> tbsaunde: i wonder if we shouldn't add such a constructor, but private, so that the error is different and maybe less confusing
2295. # [19:15] <@dbaron> bz, the error message is pretty bad, though
2296. # [19:16] <@bz> I see
2297. # [19:16] <@bz> yeah, the error message is bunk
2298. # [19:16] <@bz> ok
2299. # [19:16] <@bz> dbaron: so a more serious issue
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2302. # [19:16] <@bz> dbaron: I'd like to call nsCSSRuleProcessor::SelectorMatches from inspector utils
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2304. # [19:16] <@bz> dbaron: but inspector utils are not in libgklayout?
2305. # [19:16] <@dbaron> bz, they're not?
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2307. # [19:17] <@bz> Well, more precisely they do not have _IMPL_NS_LAYOUT defined
2308. # [19:17] <@bz> Should they?
2309. # [19:17] <@dbaron> bz, maybe it's just the makefile forgets to define -D_IMPL_NS_LAYOUT?
2310. # [19:17] <@dbaron> bz, I think they should
2311. # [19:17] <@bz> LIBRARY_NAME = inspector_s
2312. # [19:17] <@bz> fwiw
2313. # [19:17] * @bz adds the _IMPL_NS_LAYOUT bit
2314. # [19:17] <@dbaron> bz, so layout/base has LIBRARY_NAME = gkbase_s
2315. # [19:17] <@bz> ah, ok
2316. # [19:18] <@bz> great
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2318. # [19:18] * @bz notes some cpp files in inspector manually define IMPL_NS_LAYOUT!
2319. # [19:18] <darkowlzz_> JosiahOne, ping!
2320. # [19:18] <@dbaron> bz, undo that while you're there? :-)
2321. # [19:18] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: Pong.
2322. # [19:18] <mbrubeck> cjones: Should I add an a= message to bug 789358 and then land it on b2g18?
2323. # [19:18] <@dbaron> bz, maybe a separate patch from the rest, too?
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2326. # [19:18] <darkowlzz_> JosiahOne, see if you can reproduce it https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826969#c3
2327. # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: ok well, the comment on that memory reporter bug outlines my concerns
2328. # [19:19] <@bz> dbaron: yeah
2329. # [19:19] <@bz> dbaron: will do
2330. # [19:19] <jlebar> bsmedberg: I think you're right; I didn't even see the nsISupports business. Although having something with strong-typing would be nice...
2331. # [19:20] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz: Am I suppose to follow comment 3?
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2333. # [19:20] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: ^
2334. # [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/52c92a6c6e24 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833882 - Correctly handle non chrome directories when doing l10n-repack. r=gps
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2336. # [19:21] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: other than do_QueryInterface? ;-)
2337. # [19:21] <darkowlzz_> JosiahOne, yes, open Error console and sync. See what you get
2338. # [19:21] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: Alright.
2339. # [19:21] <darkowlzz_> JosiahOne, but do you have a Sync Account?
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2341. # [19:21] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: Yes.
2342. # [19:22] <darkowlzz_> great, try it now
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2347. # [19:24] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: Alright, check https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826969
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2351. # [19:25] <Mossop> bz: The nsIProtocolHandler comments says "ALL PROTOCOL HANDLERS MUST SET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING FIVE FLAGS". Is it bad that I'm setting more than one?
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2353. # [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a38d0b7187aa - Dave Hylands - Bug 831701 - Finish active updates unless the user swtiches to a newer one. Remove stale updates. r=rstrong
2354. # [19:25] <darkowlzz_> JosiahOne, thanks :)
2355. # [19:25] <JosiahOne> Thank goodness. Finally bug 548763 passed review.
2356. # [19:25] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: No problem.
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2361. # [19:29] <gwagner> khuey: ping
2362. # [19:29] <JosiahOne> Hey, how can I pass a date/time to a function? In Javascript that is?
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2364. # [19:29] <cjones> mbrubeck, that would be great, thanks
2365. # [19:30] <mbrubeck> cjones: will do
2366. # [19:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb36a87d41ec - Dave Hylands - Bug 831701 - Missing a change that was supposed to be in the previous patch. r=me
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2371. # [19:31] <Mossop> JosiahOne: Normally you'd either pass a Date object or just a timestamp (like Date.now())
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2373. # [19:31] <khuey> gwagner: pong
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2376. # [19:31] <JosiahOne> Mossop: But in Javascript do I just declare the function like:
2377. # [19:31] <JosiahOne> function aFunction(date)?
2378. # [19:32] <Ms2ger> Sure
2379. # [19:32] <gwagner> khuey: it crashed again :) see my link in #b2g
2380. # [19:32] <Mossop> Sure, variables aren't typed in JS
2381. # [19:32] <darkowlzz_> was mozilla .com earlier?
2382. # [19:32] <khuey> gwagner: woo
2383. # [19:33] <JosiahOne> Mossop: And then when I call it I use:
2384. # [19:33] <JosiahOne> aFunction(date); ?
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2386. # [19:33] <Mossop> Yes
2387. # [19:33] <JosiahOne> Mossop: Okey-dokey, thanks for your help.
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2390. # [19:34] <darkowlzz_> .com still exists for mailing, right?
2391. # [19:35] <khuey> yes
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2393. # [19:35] <JosiahOne> Question 2: How would I get the difference of two date objects, in seconds?
2394. # [19:36] <@bz> (d1 - d2) / 1000
2395. # [19:37] <JosiahOne> bz: Alright, easy enough. Thanks.
2396. # [19:37] <mconnor> bz: so, odd question since you're here
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2399. # [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdfca6aa9742 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 832831 - Make NS_ASSERT_OWNINGTHREAD_AND_NOT_CCTHREAD fatal - r=khuey
2400. # [19:37] <mconnor> if you had to build a micro-benchmark to measure incremental rebuilds on a given platform, what's a good example?
2401. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a8a0c426fc3 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 834674 - IDBTransaction: no need for custom CC code to traverse/unlink arrays of pointers - r=smaug
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2403. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccf23b56150e - Benoit Jacob - Bug 832576 - Fix perf regression in WebGL uniform setters - r=jgilbert
2404. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a920571903da - Benoit Jacob - Bug 827170 - Clamp intermediate surface's framebuffer dimensions to what is supported by the GL - r=BenWa
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2406. # [19:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31399fd0cb5b - Benoit Jacob - Bug 791432 - blacklist WebGL on HTC One S ("ville") - r=jgilbert
2407. # [19:38] <@bz> mconnor: Good example of an incremental rebuild?
2408. # [19:38] <@bz> mconnor: or of a benchmark?
2409. # [19:38] <mconnor> bz: the former, that we could time and measure
2410. # [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/19f630648c80 - Gary Kwong - Backout changeset 425835f6a9e2. The leak is still showing up, so re-add the suppression entry. DONTBUILD
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2412. # [19:38] <@bz> So you want something that's not a no-op?
2413. # [19:38] <@bz> I guess I'm not clear on what we're trying to measure
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2415. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> touch Codegen.py and make in dom/bindings
2416. # [19:39] <mconnor> bz: "time to rebuild after making a change"
2417. # [19:39] <@bz> well
2418. # [19:39] <mbrubeck> (a no-no-op?) Maybe a minimal change that requires a re-link?
2419. # [19:39] <@bz> it depends heavily on the change!
2420. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> touch nsINode.h
2421. # [19:39] <jfkthame> touch a widely-used header? touch a single source file?
2422. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> You'll have fun
2423. # [19:39] <@bz> I guess an interesting metric is "change some random .cpp"
2424. # [19:40] <@bz> You could, say, touch nsDocument.cpp
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2426. # [19:40] <@bz> and then rebuild
2427. # [19:40] <@bz> So basically "no-op except for this one file that needs to be recompiled"
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2430. # [19:41] <jfkthame> whether it ends up getting linked into libxul or somewhere other small lib could be a significant factor there
2431. # [19:41] <jfkthame> s/where//
2432. # [19:42] <@bz> We have non-libxul libs?
2433. # [19:42] <@bz> heresy!
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2437. # [19:43] <jfkthame> we have stuff that doesn't end up in libxul - an ever-increasing amount of it, thanks to pgo
2438. # [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55269abd4df3 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 827280 - Part 3: MobileConnection. r=philikon a=tef+
2439. # [19:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b65c94a756a - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 827280 - Part 4: RIL. r=philikon a=tef+
2440. # [19:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1076e0e57f14 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 827280 - Part 1: IDLs. r=sicking a=tef+
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2443. # [19:44] <darkowlzz_> JosiahOne, we resolved a bug :) , look at this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826969#c8
2444. # [19:44] <mbrubeck> cjones, lmandel: So, bug 789358 is now landed on mozilla-central (21.0) and on b2g18 (18.0). It's a b2g-only patch. Do we need it on Aurora/Beta (i.e., does b2g ever plan to do builds based on 19.0 or 20.0)?
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2446. # [19:44] <JosiahOne> darkowlzz_: Wonderful. :)
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2449. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> Get your damn a='s out of my inbound
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2451. # [19:45] * JosiahOne Presses the EASY button.
2452. # [19:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab76caba70f3 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 833546: Rotating phone will open tabs-tray. [r=mfinkle]
2453. # [19:45] <JosiahOne> Darkowlzz_:"That was easy"
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2455. # [19:46] <cjones> mbrubeck, nope
2456. # [19:47] <mbrubeck> great
2457. # [19:47] <lmandel> cjones beat me to it.
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2460. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1d4af4e25b1 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 834414 - Destroy the SiteIdentityPopup when the activity is destroyed to prevent leaking the activity. r=margaret
2461. # [19:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00a0bf8c5dd1 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 834414 - Stop holding on to a content resolver in Tab, which leaks the Activity instance it is associated with. r=bnicholson
2462. # [19:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a56a56a6481 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 834414 - Free the local refs in GeckoThread's long-running run method to prevent leaks. r=cpeterson
2463. # [19:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e43eca1b34d9 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 834414 - Remove a dangling reference to the LayerView in the IME code when the activity is destroyed. r=jchen
2464. # [19:49] <mbrubeck> mccr8: You might have some Linux orange on b2g18
2465. # [19:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b892485d74e8 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 834414 - Remove unnecessary getInstance call that was leaking an App instance. r=wesj
2466. # [19:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5969a01955b - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 834414 - Fix leaks caused by missing tab change listener unregistrations. r=sriram
2467. # [19:49] <JosiahOne> How do I log a variable with Services.console.logStringMessage?
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2469. # [19:49] <JosiahOne> It's not like C I take it.
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2472. # [19:50] <JosiahOne> Java perhaps?
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2474. # [19:50] <mccr8> mbrubeck: okay thanks.
2475. # [19:51] <mbrubeck> JosiahOne: From your syntax, it looks like you are talking about JavaScript...
2476. # [19:51] <JosiahOne> mbrubeck: Yeah, that's right.
2477. # [19:51] <mbrubeck> Services.console.logStringMessage("my variable: " + aVar);
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2479. # [19:52] <JosiahOne> mbubeck: Good, I assumed that and started building. Thanks for the verification.
2480. # [19:52] <mbrubeck> or if your variable is an object or something, you could use JSON.stringify(aVar)
2481. # [19:52] <mccr8> mbrubeck: hmm, those were okay on a try run...
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2486. # [19:53] <jcranmer> ehsan: is espindola on holiday?
2487. # [19:53] <@ehsan> yeah
2488. # [19:54] <mccr8> firefox-bin: cairo-hash.c:199: _cairo_hash_table_destroy: Assertion `hash_table->live_entries == 0' that does not look good...
2489. # [19:54] <khuey> I've seen that a bit lately
2490. # [19:54] <khuey> seems to happen when I don't rebuild hard enough
2491. # [19:54] <jcranmer> ehsan: do you know when he'll be back?
2492. # [19:55] <@ehsan> I can check
2493. # [19:55] <mbrubeck> khuey, mccr8: I can try clobbering
2494. # [19:55] <mccr8> mbrubeck khuey: thanks!!
2495. # [19:55] * mbrubeck sets a clobber
2496. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/31de7dd3504c - Benoit Jacob - Bug 814716 - correct the way that we tweak max sizes - r=jgilbert, a=akeybl
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2498. # [19:57] <@ehsan> jcranmer: it says here he's off until the 30th, with a note saying taking two extra days off for xmas and boxing day
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2502. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> ehsan, .. the 30th what?
2503. # [19:57] <@ehsan> january, mr. nitpick! :P
2504. # [19:58] <jcranmer> ehsan: duly noted, thanks
2505. # [19:58] <jhammel> Ms2ger: the 30th human sacrifice *this* year
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2511. # [19:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baa055cb9043 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 834525: Tab thumbnail styling on phones and tablets. [r=mfinkle] [needs-clobber]
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2517. # [20:01] <Jesse> mccr8: i used to get that cairo assertion on shutdown whenever firefox leaked anything big
2518. # [20:02] <mccr8> Jesse: weird. well, my patch was okay on try so I'm hoping a clobber will help. ;)
2519. # [20:03] <Jesse> that assertion isn't fatal, is it?
2520. # [20:03] <mccr8> I don't know
2521. # [20:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3b2be18c306 - Doug Turner - Bug 834595 - Factor stat() such that there are 3 independent methods. r=sicking
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2529. # [20:07] <BenB> bz: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript/Guide/Inheritance_Revisited$history
2530. # [20:07] <BenB> bz: you removed references to __proto__ and replaced it with Object.create(). why?
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2532. # [20:08] <Mossop> __proto__ is probably going away
2533. # [20:08] <@bz> BenB: because writable proto was being considered for removal at the time
2534. # [20:08] <Jesse> __proto__ is non-standard
2535. # [20:09] <@bz> BenB: also because dynamic proto changes will deoptimize your object, so if you care at all about performance..
2536. # [20:09] <Jesse> i would love for writable __proto__ to go away
2537. # [20:09] <@bz> And yes, nonstandard
2538. # [20:09] <@bz> Though at this point everyone supports it, I think, because of people using it. :(
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2540. # [20:09] <Jesse> i've found many security bugs involving writable __proto__
2541. # [20:09] <BenB> bz: that doc was from me, and that was - at its time - the most elegant way to do inheritance in JS
2542. # [20:10] <@bz> In any case, the JIT assumes that if you mutate __proto__ then you care about that, not performance.
2543. # [20:10] <BenB> bz: I haven't heard about Object.create().
2544. # [20:10] <@bz> BenB: sure, but at this point any reasonably recent browser supports Object.create()
2545. # [20:10] <BenB> ok
2546. # [20:10] <Jesse> could we restrict writable __proto__ to less dangerous cases? e.g. not allowing you to take a native object and put the wrong native prototype in its proto chain
2547. # [20:10] <@bz> BenB: certainly anything that supports mutable __proto__ and is actually supported at all
2548. # [20:10] <@bz> Jesse: we could if we wanted to, sure
2549. # [20:11] <@bz> Jesse: you sure websites don't depend on it?
2550. # [20:11] <Jesse> no
2551. # [20:11] <@bz> Jesse: and in any case, I think most of the bugs you found can be triggered via other means
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2553. # [20:11] <BenB> bz: I would like to have a really clear, consistent guide on how to do inheritance (class hierarchies) in JS, and have that doc being very prominent.
2554. # [20:11] <Jesse> does writing to __proto__ hurt the JIT more than Object.create() ?
2555. # [20:11] <@bz> Jesse: I think it does
2556. # [20:11] <@bz> Jesse: But bhackett would know for sure
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2558. # [20:12] <@bz> BenB: sure
2559. # [20:12] <BenB> bz: (this doc was an attempt of it, but apparently wrongheaded :( )
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2561. # [20:12] <@bz> Well, this doc predated Object.create, I would assume.
2562. # [20:12] <@bz> Initially.
2563. # [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ded8a117d29e - Joel Maher - Bug 834778 - upload a new talos.zip to capture fixes for xperf. r=armenzg
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2565. # [20:13] <BenB> it's from 2006/2007
2566. # [20:14] <@bz> yeah
2567. # [20:14] <@bz> Object.create is later
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2569. # [20:14] <BenB> there you go. can we re-teach people now, please? I've seen *all kinds* of attempts to do inheritance, most of which make me puke,
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2573. # [20:15] * Jesse gives https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642500 a posthumous sec-want
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2576. # [20:16] <BenB> bz: so, object.create() is essentially the same as setting __proto__, just that it must happen at obj creating time, and is standard?
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2589. # [20:21] <BenB> so why this line give me "TypeError: value is not a non-null object"?
2590. # [20:21] <BenB> child.prototype = Object.create(supertype.prototype, child.prototype);
2591. # [20:22] <Mook_as> because the second arg is a property descriptor, not a random object to clone off of :(
2592. # [20:22] <Mossop> THe second argument to Object.create is an array of property descriptors
2593. # [20:22] <Mossop> bz: Did you see my question about nsIProtocolHandler?
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2599. # [20:24] <WeirdAl> hi BenB, ltns
2600. # [20:24] <BenB> yup
2601. # [20:24] <@bz> Mossop: nope
2602. # [20:25] <ekr> abr: ping
2603. # [20:25] <Mossop> bz: The nsIProtocolHandler comments says "ALL PROTOCOL HANDLERS MUST SET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING FIVE FLAGS". Is it bad that I'm setting more than one?
2604. # [20:25] <@bz> BenB: the second arg is supposed to be a set of name to property descriptor mappings
2605. # [20:25] <@bz> mossop: um...
2606. # [20:25] <@bz> mossop: it has undefined security behavior
2607. # [20:26] <nemo> BenB: WRT OOP JS. Crockford added a note to his attempt at some point. http://www.crockford.com/javascript/inheritance.html "I now see my early attempts to support the classical model in JavaScript as a mistake."
2608. # [20:26] <@bz> mossop: why are you setting more than one?
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2612. # [20:27] <BenB> nemo: function names as strings. that's one of these variants that make me puke
2613. # [20:27] <Jesse> maybe the comment should add an "EXACTLY" and there should be an assertion?
2614. # [20:29] <Mossop> bz: I'm trying to fix a privacy leak where webpages can detect the installed add-ons by loading their resource:// uris. I've implemented a new protocol that isn't loadable by content with "URI_DANGEROUS_TO_LOAD", however unless I also include "URI_IS_UI_RESOURCE" you can't use those urls for a ChromeWorker
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2618. # [20:30] <mwu> bjacob: red?
2619. # [20:30] <@bz> Mossop: hrm
2620. # [20:30] <@bz> Mossop: sounds like we're overloading UI_RESOURCE for two totally unrelated things and should stop....
2621. # [20:31] <@bz> Mossop: or change the definitions of these flags in some way so that we allow more than one to be set
2622. # [20:31] <Mossop> bz: Here is the particular case: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/ScriptLoader.cpp#460
2623. # [20:31] <joe> jlebar: are you in a position that you could do any reviews on bug 716140?
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2625. # [20:31] <@bz> So I thought that UI_RESOURCE wasn't automatically visible...
2626. # [20:32] * @bz checks
2627. # [20:32] <@bz> Ah, so
2628. # [20:32] <Mossop> bz: There are also other dumb requirements, like my URIs have to implement nsIFileURL or the subscript loader will refuse to load them, but it doesn't actually care if the URI refers to a file or not
2629. # [20:32] <@bz> UI_RESOURCE is special-cased
2630. # [20:32] <@bz> to do various things
2631. # [20:32] <@bz> you could have it just return "not allowed" for your protocol
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2634. # [20:33] <mwu> bjacob: looks like there's an issue with your blacklist patch
2635. # [20:33] <@bz> mossop: See http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/caps/src/nsScriptSecurityManager.cpp#1417
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2637. # [20:34] <BenB> huch. not even var foo = {}; Object.create(A.prototype, foo); works. I expected that to be eq to Object.create(A.prototype, {}); very confusing.
2638. # [20:34] <@bz> er
2639. # [20:34] <@bz> That should work
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2641. # [20:34] <BenB> ok, I'll test more
2642. # [20:34] <JosiahOne> Why is my output for time always returning zero? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2085884
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2645. # [20:35] <Jesse> JosiahOne: window.requestAnimationFrame(drawTheAnimationBack); // suspicious
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2648. # [20:36] <JosiahOne> Jesse: Why?
2649. # [20:36] <JosiahOne> Oh.
2650. # [20:36] <Jesse> because you're not passing the current time to it
2651. # [20:36] <JosiahOne> Yeah.
2652. # [20:36] <JosiahOne> Shoot. I have to rethink this.
2653. # [20:36] <Mossop> bz: Yeah I guess. I was trying to avoid changing the platform code to make add-on SDK code work
2654. # [20:36] <@bz> This code will break in the near future
2655. # [20:36] <@bz> Mossop: Just fix the damn platform as needed. ;)
2656. # [20:36] <taras> Mossop: ping
2657. # [20:37] <Mossop> bz: Ok ok
2658. # [20:37] <Mossop> taras: pong
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2660. # [20:37] <@bz> JosiahOne: requestAnimationFrame and mozRequestAnimationFrame will either end up with different behavior....
2661. # [20:37] <taras> Mossop: since Blair isn't around, wanted run a thought by you re 810149
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2663. # [20:37] <@bz> JosiahOne: or the argument to mozRequestAnimationFrame will become unrelated to Date.now()
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2665. # [20:37] <@bz> JosiahOne: but in either case, how does comparing the argument to Date.now() useful to you?
2666. # [20:37] <taras> Mossop: the main reason for dir scanning is dev convenience, right?
2667. # [20:37] <JosiahOne> bz: I'm going to try passing the variable that that was passed to it. Which *should* keep it.
2668. # [20:37] <@bz> JosiahOne: what are you trying to measure?
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2671. # [20:38] <taras> Mossop: so why not only enable dir scanning only when --purgecaches is used?
2672. # [20:38] <JosiahOne> The time it takes for this animation. It should run around 60 FPS, but not always. I need to test the always.
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2674. # [20:38] <JosiahOne> bz: ^
2675. # [20:38] <@bz> Save the mozAnimationStartTime value when you start the animation?
2676. # [20:38] <@bz> And compare to that?
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2678. # [20:38] <@ehsan> davidb: thanks
2679. # [20:39] <JosiahOne> bz: I'm just getting the time before I start the animation. What difference is there?
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2681. # [20:39] <bjacob> mwu: ah, looking
2682. # [20:39] <taras> irving: so i'm not sure i understand your concern for changing behavior
2683. # [20:40] <Mossop> taras: That's one reason, I am more concerned with the behaviour of things like AV tools on the system that inject add-ons in. I don't know whether they always touch install.rdf when updating their add-ons
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2685. # [20:40] <irving> that's why i want the telemetry - to get an idea of how often that really happens.
2686. # [20:40] <taras> Mossop: i'm less concerned about AV tools, since they break us already
2687. # [20:41] <taras> it's something we can deal with via kev
2688. # [20:41] <Mossop> Not kev anymore, but anyway
2689. # [20:41] <taras> kev-successor :)
2690. # [20:41] <Mossop> There isn't one really :(
2691. # [20:41] <Mossop> Anyway
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2693. # [20:41] <irving> unfortunately i suspect the people who have that are rarely going to be running nightly and/or turning on telemetry
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2696. # [20:42] <Mossop> Apparently a patch fix for a current AV crash isn't going to change the version number, so I don't know if it is touching install.rdf or not and so in this scenario it wouldn't actually fix the crash
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2699. # [20:42] <taras> Mossop: do you have a different view on how to avoid dir scanning?
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2701. # [20:42] <JosiahOne> bz: Okay, never mind, tell me about this mozStartAnimationTime?
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2703. # [20:43] <Mossop> taras: Unfortunately no. I'm really interested to see what the telemetry tells us
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2705. # [20:43] <taras> well then we better uplift telemetry to beta
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2707. # [20:43] <shivam10> hi. my name is Shivam Bhalla. im new to the use of bugzilla and am filing my first bug. but i have query as to how to do it. also , i have been asked to flag it as a mentor bug and am not really sure how to do that.
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2709. # [20:43] <shivam10> could you please help me regarding this?
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2711. # [20:44] <taras> Mossop: i feel we should fix this in the next cycle
2712. # [20:44] <@bsmedberg> shivam10: have you asked in #introduction ?
2713. # [20:44] <irving> taras / mossop: if the fix is in a compiled library, does the startup cache matter? I suppose if they change the name and we don't notice the manifest change to load the new .dll name...
2714. # [20:44] <@bz> JosiahOne: there isn't much to say. It's the thing you should be comparing to the argument to the callback
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2716. # [20:44] <@bz> JosiahOne: comparing anything else will lead you astray
2717. # [20:44] <taras> irving: compiled library wouldn't change anything from ff view
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2719. # [20:44] <@bsmedberg> is there a C/C++ function that will give me the same data as JS 'Date.now()' ?
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2721. # [20:44] <@bsmedberg> PRMJ_Now, but that's not exported
2722. # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f213db8fe7f - Benoit Jacob - Bug 791432 - fix build bustage - no review
2723. # [20:45] <khuey> JS_Now?
2724. # [20:45] <shivam10> bsmedberg, no i have been redirected here itself/
2725. # [20:45] <JosiahOne> bz: Do I just get it like "var time = mozStartAnimationTime"?
2726. # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> khuey: indeed, with some microsecond adjustment that looks perfect! thanks
2727. # [20:46] <bjacob> mwu: fixed by new push (hopefully)
2728. # [20:46] <khuey> np
2729. # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> shivam10: ok, I can try to help you. What part of the bug filing process is unclear?
2730. # [20:46] <Mossop> taras: Why do you feel it is so urgent?
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2732. # [20:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4a427a5864a - Chris Jones - Bug 834760: Null-check mAttachedWidgetListener. r=mwu
2733. # [20:48] <irving> Mossop: telemetry shows 5% of startups spending more than a second scanning directories
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2742. # [20:50] <Mossop> Ok. Well ultimately the decision is Blair's, I wouldn't want to make it for him since he'll likely have to deal with any fallout. But I'm sure having the extra data would help a lot
2743. # [20:50] <irving> Mossop: telemetry evolution, nightly, Windows, CHECK_ADDONS_MODIFIED_MS ranges between 700 and 2000 ms. for the 95th percentile
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2750. # [20:54] <Jesse> bholley: is it ok if i check in a change making the "bad pop from per thread data" assertion fatal? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832488
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2752. # [20:55] <taras> Mossop: because this is one of the biggest startup sinks
2753. # [20:56] <taras> and startup is our top perf priority
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2755. # [20:56] <NeilAway> hmm, are the l10n repo(s) in mxr?
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2757. # [20:58] <taras> irving: can you ask for beta uplift on your telemetry stuff(assuming it works)
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2759. # [20:58] <taras> irving: and ping lmandel about it
2760. # [20:59] <irving> taras: how long do we want it to soak on nightly before we uplift?
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2763. # [20:59] <taras> irving: long enough to see that the numbers make sense
2764. # [20:59] <taras> i think 1 day would be enough
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2773. # [21:05] <taras> bz: are the you the right person to talk about navigation timing api?
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2775. # [21:06] <@bz> um
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2777. # [21:06] <@bz> Probably not, but I might be better than any of the other options in this channel....
2778. # [21:06] <@bz> What's up?
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2780. # [21:06] <taras> bz: i wanted to ask about implementing firstPaint
2781. # [21:06] <taras> ie has it
2782. # [21:06] <jlebar> joe: I can try, with the caveat that I reserve the right to redirect reviews back to Jeff if I'm not totally comfortable with the code (which may be likely).
2783. # [21:06] <jlebar> joe: But I can't get to them today, for sure.
2784. # [21:06] <taras> i've been doing some tests and it does look like it will make the data lot more useful
2785. # [21:06] <@bz> taras: is it specced?
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2787. # [21:07] <@bz> taras: implementing it seems easy; the hard part is making sure, if there is no spec, that the behavior actually matches IE's in any way
2788. # [21:07] <taras> bz: nope
2789. # [21:07] <@bz> taras: As in, defining "first paint"
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2791. # [21:07] <taras> i agree
2792. # [21:07] <taras> i been emulating it with requestanimationframe
2793. # [21:07] <@bz> taras: seems like if there's interest getting this specced should not be too bad
2794. # [21:07] <taras> and it doesn't seem to matter if you get it right
2795. # [21:07] <@bz> requestAnimationFrame has nothing to do with painting...
2796. # [21:07] <taras> uh oh
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2798. # [21:08] <taras> i think it's called when we are about to compose
2799. # [21:08] <taras> so the second time it's called
2800. # [21:08] <taras> you know something painted
2801. # [21:08] <taras> s/think/thought/
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2803. # [21:09] <@bz> it's just called off a timer
2804. # [21:09] <@bz> totally unrelated to painting
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2806. # [21:09] <@bz> the timer also does layout and restyling and whatnot
2807. # [21:09] <taras> bz: way to burst my bubble
2808. # [21:09] <@bz> and at this point may do invalidation
2809. # [21:09] <@bz> but compositing totally unrelated
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2811. # [21:11] <taras> oh hey, we do have https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/window.mozPaintCount
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2813. # [21:12] <taras> bz: so just so we are clear
2814. # [21:13] <taras> bz: requestAnimationFrame can get called and result of that does not have to get painted?
2815. # [21:13] <taras> so FPS-measuring advice is incorrect?
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2817. # [21:13] <@bz> taras: In Gecko, that's correct afaik
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2819. # [21:13] <@bz> taras: Some other UAs do trigger requestAnimationFrame before compositing, maybe.
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2830. # [21:16] <taras> bz: does loading css block rendering of page in any way?
2831. # [21:16] <taras> ie if you have a <link> in <head>
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2833. # [21:17] <joe> jlebar: it's not *that* urgent
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2836. # [21:18] <jlebar> joe: okay. r? away and I'll look at it soon. :)
2837. # [21:18] <@bz> taras: it can block layout and sometimes parsing
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2839. # [21:18] <@bz> taras: but not rendering per se
2840. # [21:19] <@bz> taras: though note that we don't start rendering before we start layout, so if layout start is blocked....
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2843. # [21:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8104d8262f22 - Joey Armstrong - bug 747540: fix dependencies for java build
2844. # [21:19] <taras> bz: so when does it block layout?
2845. # [21:19] <taras> always?
2846. # [21:19] <taras> i noticed my js started running sooner
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2848. # [21:20] <taras> once i inlined css
2849. # [21:20] <taras> i didn't expect that
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2862. # [21:29] <@bz> taras: sorry, back
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2864. # [21:30] <@bz> taras: we start layout after we've seen <body> and all stylesheets from <head> are loaded
2865. # [21:30] <@bz> taras: basically
2866. # [21:30] <taras> interesting
2867. # [21:30] <@bz> taras: furthermore, if there is a stylesheet loading, parsing a <script> tag will not run it until that sheet loads
2868. # [21:30] <bholley> Jesse: checking
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2870. # [21:31] <@bz> taras: because scripts query layout information and expect it to reflect all earlier stylesheets in the document....
2871. # [21:31] <taras> i understand that
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2874. # [21:31] <taras> i might have to disappear soon to take care of baby
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2877. # [21:32] <taras> bz: so basically advice to put css <links> at bottom of html is ok
2878. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> But invalid
2879. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> Just put your scripts at the end, or use async/defer
2880. # [21:33] <taras> async/defer?
2881. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> <script src=foo.js async></script>
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2883. # [21:33] <taras> i had no idea that existed
2884. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> Will run whenever it's loaded rather than blocking parsing
2885. # [21:33] <taras> thanks
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2887. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> Thank Hixie :)
2888. # [21:34] <taras> bz: so 2 questions
2889. # [21:34] <@bz> taras: er....
2890. # [21:34] <bholley> Jesse: I'd need to dig more - please needinfo me on a bug and I'll look into it
2891. # [21:34] <fabrice> Ms2ger: is async different from defer?
2892. # [21:34] <@bz> taras: ok in what sense?
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2894. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> fabrice, defer runs at a more defined time, IIRC
2895. # [21:34] <taras> bz: in that it makes things run sooner(even at cost more reflows)
2896. # [21:34] <@bz> taras: yes
2897. # [21:34] <@bz> taras: ok, in that sense
2898. # [21:35] <taras> bz: basically advice goes like this (put important css inline, rest in <link> at bottom>
2899. # [21:35] <@bz> taras: not just reflows; probably full tree reconstructs
2900. # [21:35] <@bz> taras: yes
2901. # [21:35] <taras> which i went to measure
2902. # [21:35] <taras> and it seems to have made a difference
2903. # [21:35] <Jesse> bholley: you'll look into the bug, into whether it's reasonable to make the assertion fatal, or both?
2904. # [21:35] <taras> bz: i also noticed that most big sites set aggressive cache expiry on css stylesheets
2905. # [21:35] <taras> to avoid some of this hit
2906. # [21:36] * @bz ponders radical approaches to strings
2907. # [21:36] <@bz> taras: as in have them not expire ever?
2908. # [21:36] <@bz> taras: basically?
2909. # [21:36] <taras> but it means it still sucks once that cache expires
2910. # [21:36] <taras> bz: 24hours in future
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2912. # [21:36] <taras> cant do that for index.html :)
2913. # [21:36] <@bz> taras: yeah, ok, that's not too bad.
2914. # [21:36] <taras> bz: well it kinda sucks, cos they still expire every 24hours causing as significant rendering hit
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2916. # [21:37] <taras> bz: so a better solution would be to a) tooling to automate extraction of css that matters
2917. # [21:37] <taras> b) speculative css loading
2918. # [21:37] <taras> on browser side
2919. # [21:37] <@ehsan> bz: I'm getting a crash on this line MOZ_ASSERT(JS_IsExceptionPending(cx)); in AudioContextBinding::get_destination... rings any bells?
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2921. # [21:38] <Ms2ger> ehsan, crash or assert failure?
2922. # [21:38] <@ehsan> crash
2923. # [21:38] <@bsmedberg> what is cx?
2924. # [21:39] <@ehsan> $3 = (class JSContext *) 0x10f54f260
2925. # [21:39] <@ehsan> IOW, not null
2926. # [21:39] <@bsmedberg> oh, is this not an opt build?
2927. # [21:39] <@ehsan> oh
2928. # [21:39] <@ehsan> crap
2929. # [21:39] <@ehsan> sorry
2930. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> Heh
2931. # [21:39] <@ehsan> it's the MOZ_ASSERT failing :(
2932. # [21:39] * @ehsan was looking at the wrong terminal
2933. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> I thought so ;)
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2935. # [21:39] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: no it's a debug build
2936. # [21:40] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: so what does that mean?
2937. # [21:40] <@ehsan> li
2938. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> Is this code on trunk?
2939. # [21:40] <@ehsan> yeah
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2941. # [21:40] <@ehsan> WrapNewBindingObject is returning false
2942. # [21:41] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I mean, I do have patches applied... but I don't know why they could be causing this crash
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2944. # [21:41] * Ms2ger frowns
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2948. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> ehsan, where is it returning false?
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2951. # [21:42] <@ehsan> 43 get_destination(JSContext* cx, JSHandleObject obj, mozilla::dom::AudioContext* self, JS::Value* vp)
2952. # [21:42] <@ehsan> 44 {
2953. # [21:42] <@ehsan> 45 mozilla::dom::AudioDestinationNode* result;
2954. # [21:42] <@ehsan> 46 result = self->Destination();
2955. # [21:43] <@ehsan> 47 if (!WrapNewBindingObject(cx, obj, result, vp)) {
2956. # [21:43] <@ehsan> 48 MOZ_ASSERT(JS_IsExceptionPending(cx));
2957. # [21:43] <@ehsan> 49 return false;
2958. # [21:43] <@ehsan> 50 }
2959. # [21:43] <@ehsan> 51 return true;
2960. # [21:43] <@ehsan> 52 }
2961. # [21:43] <@ehsan> line 47
2962. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> Spammer :)
2963. # [21:43] <@ehsan> heh
2964. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> I meant which return statement inside WrapNewBindingObject, actually
2965. # [21:43] <@ehsan> oh, I don't know
2966. # [21:44] <@ehsan> that's a bit hard to figure out
2967. # [21:44] <@ehsan> since this happens in the middle of running tests...
2968. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> Bah
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2970. # [21:45] <Ms2ger> Ask bz, then :)
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2972. # [21:45] <@ehsan> oh wait
2973. # [21:45] <@ehsan> found a way to repro
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2975. # [21:47] <@ehsan> omg
2976. # [21:47] <@ehsan> wrong vtable offset
2977. # [21:47] <@ehsan> damn you, build system :((
2978. # [21:47] <@dolske> careful
2979. # [21:47] * @ehsan clobbers
2980. # [21:47] <@dolske> it's sentient now
2981. # [21:47] <@dolske> (https://twitter.com/bug_784841/status/294840812989194241)
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2986. # [21:48] <Ms2ger> ted, I bet it's dolske
2987. # [21:49] <@ehsan> dolske: hehe, unfortunately that bug won't fix this problem that I'm having :(
2988. # [21:50] <@dolske> just saying we're all going to need to learn to be polite around the build system soon.
2989. # [21:50] <@dolske> I fear what may happen should it become angered.
2990. # [21:50] <@ehsan> dolske: I'll start to be polite when it starts to get my builds right :P
2991. # [21:50] <@ehsan> dolske: what's the worst? broken builds?
2992. # [21:51] <@ehsan> ehem ** status quo ** ehem
2993. # [21:51] <@dolske> ehsan: have you not seen the Terminator movies?
2994. # [21:51] <@ehsan> hehe
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2997. # [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e11e8be9a609 - Josh Aas - Bug 827979: Add Growl support back to beta. a=akeybl ba=akeybl
2998. # [21:52] <WeirdAl> 8-) I'll be back
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3000. # [21:52] <@dolske> Ms2ger: I don't anthropomorphize build systems, but I do for my cat and satelite.
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3003. # [21:52] <josh> wchen: What are the chances the new notification support gets into FF21?
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3009. # [21:54] <@ehsan> AssertNoGcThing (aGCThing=0x147c600a0, aName=0x105369976 "mJSChannels[i]", aClosure=0x0)
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3015. # [21:55] <Ms2ger> ehsan, broken CC, I think
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3019. # [21:58] <wchen> josh: 50%?
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3023. # [22:01] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: heh well that's for sure!
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3042. # [22:14] <@bz> taras: we do speculative CSS loading
3043. # [22:14] <@bz> taras: fwiw
3044. # [22:14] <@bz> ehsan: still trying to figure things out?
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3046. # [22:14] <taras> bz: really, i wish this was documented somewhere
3047. # [22:14] <taras> how does it work?
3048. # [22:14] <@ehsan> bz: sort of, I actually have another question
3049. # [22:15] <@ehsan> bz: if a dtor drops js objects, so should the Unlink method, right?
3050. # [22:15] <taras> bz: also, how well does it work :)
3051. # [22:15] <@bz> taras: so we block the parser on <script> tags
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3053. # [22:15] <@bz> taras: but we keep tokenizing and kicking off loads from the tokenizer, for images and scripts and sheets
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3055. # [22:15] <@bz> ehsan: I think so, yes.
3056. # [22:15] <@ehsan> ok, then I'll write a patch for this.
3057. # [22:15] <taras> bz: oh that's not what i meant by speculative loading
3058. # [22:16] <@bz> taras: Ah, what do you mean?
3059. # [22:16] <taras> bz: i meant applying a css style from cache
3060. # [22:16] <taras> and then rejecting it if we made the wrong guess
3061. # [22:16] <@bz> taras: Ah
3062. # [22:16] <@bz> taras: That we don't do. ;)
3063. # [22:17] <taras> bz: i'm not sure what's speculative in the scheme you described
3064. # [22:17] <taras> is there a way css can force the rest of page to not be loaded?
3065. # [22:17] <@bz> taras: the script might do document.write()
3066. # [22:17] <taras> gotcha
3067. # [22:17] <@bz> taras: which totally changes the token stream
3068. # [22:17] <taras> yup
3069. # [22:17] <@bz> taras: e.g. might comment out the <link>. ;)
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3073. # [22:18] <taras> bz: do async scripts get treated differently in this case?
3074. # [22:18] <@bz> taras: yes
3075. # [22:18] <taras> ie by definition
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3079. # [22:19] <taras> bz: so one could make a tool to do the css bit in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834865 script tags for async ones
3080. # [22:19] <taras> err..swap out script tags for async ones
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3082. # [22:20] <taras> in hope that devs would correct ones that shouldn't be
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3090. # [22:27] <NeilAway> bah, windows builds take so long these days
3091. # [22:27] <jlebar> jesup: ping
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3094. # [22:29] <jesup> jlebar: pong
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3096. # [22:29] <jlebar> jesup: B2G builds on mac are currently broken by webrtc.
3097. # [22:29] <jlebar> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834859
3098. # [22:30] <jlebar> jesup: It looks like it's not catching the right cross-compile flags, perhaps among other things.
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3100. # [22:30] <jlebar> jesup: Do you know if I can just disable this on b2g?
3101. # [22:30] <jesup> Ah. Steven lee must have tried landing again
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3104. # [22:31] <jesup> you can IMHO. slee has landed, bounced and landed again changes to make webrtc build on b2g - but he bounced last time for breaking b2g on mac
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3106. # [22:31] <jesup> Sounds like he broke it again
3107. # [22:31] <jlebar> jesup: do you have a bug?
3108. # [22:31] <jesup> !seen slee
3109. # [22:31] <firebot> slee was last seen 70 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 8 minutes and 54 seconds ago,
3110. # [22:31] <jesup> wrong nick...
3111. # [22:32] <jesup> jlebar: bug 818843
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3114. # [22:33] <jlebar> jesup: Actually, what I'm seeing is a failure on b2g18, which is not that bug.
3115. # [22:33] <jlebar> jesup: Although there's a second failure, on trunk. Bug 834867.
3116. # [22:33] <jlebar> That could be webrtc.
3117. # [22:35] <jesup> webrtc is off for b2g until slee's changes... he's been preffing it on for b2g
3118. # [22:35] <jesup> I think
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3120. # [22:36] <jesup> he's been talking with dmose and gcp (working on Webrtc Android) to coordinate; he started doing it on his own and we had him rebase on what dmose/gcp were doing
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3124. # [22:39] <NeilAway> ooh, how long have we had inline array map syntax?
3125. # [22:40] <jlebar> Well, I guess I'll see if backing this out fixes things. I'll also try to get a tinderbox on mac up and running. Breaking both builds is really not okay.
3126. # [22:41] <jlebar> jesup: thanks.
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3134. # [22:45] <jesup> jlebar: Yeah; if we care about it we should have some level of testing, even if it's only a side machine doing tinderbox builds somewhere
3135. # [22:46] <jlebar> jesup: Agreed. But please don't get your hopes up, because I'm not the one we need to convince in order to get that machine up and running in a timely fashion.
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3157. # [22:55] <NeilAway> bah, that was over 2 hours for a -j7 on a reasonably fast machine
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3162. # [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/321aca70f66d - Michael Wu - Bug 834327 - Disable idleservice spam on gonk, r=gcp
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3173. # [23:01] <mbrubeck> cjones: Whoops. Guess I should back bug 789358 out of m-c too. Sorry.
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3177. # [23:02] <cjones> mbrubeck, i'm as surprised as you probably are :(
3178. # [23:03] <mbrubeck> My bad, I should have had someone with a B2G device test that with actual input.
3179. # [23:03] <jlebar> jesup: Do I have rs=you to back out bug 818843? I'm hitting the same build error as dougt hit when he backed it out.
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3182. # [23:03] <jesup> jlebar: rs=me
3183. # [23:03] <jlebar> jesup: thanks.
3184. # [23:04] <mbrubeck> hg seems to be just hanging after "searching for changes" when pulling from inbound....
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3189. # [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfbf97e656a9 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 825714 followup: Silence various warnings and make various style corrections. r=billm
3190. # [23:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be286cf0a503 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 829784 - Don't cycle collect nsNodeInfo in live documents. r=smaug
3191. # [23:09] <mbrubeck> Can someone who is able to pull from inbound please back out https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2692ef57acaa for me? I'm having hg problems. :(
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3205. # [23:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38c61e9826b2 - Justin Lebar - Backed out changeset 9b803c2821b9 (bug 818843) due to B2G device build breakage on Mac. rs=jesup
3206. # [23:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2a2c71ce437 - Justin Lebar - Backed out changeset e8aa49207d1c (bug 818843) due to B2G device build breakage on Mac OS. rs=jesup
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3208. # [23:24] <jesup> jlebar: yeah, he appears to have just re-landed (maybe with a tweak; if so he didn't ask). Thanks
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3211. # [23:24] <jlebar> jesup: The confusion about tryserver is perhaps understandable.
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3218. # [23:28] <jesup> yeah
3219. # [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf2bcfc5cb4d - Shane Caraveo - Bug 804656: add rolluponmousewheel attribute to allow mousewheel events to hide panels, r=enndeakin
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3223. # [23:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b868c9ca7a0a - Phil Ringnalda - Back out ab76caba70f3 (bug 833546) for robocop bustage
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3225. # [23:33] <mbrubeck> philor: Could I trouble you to also back out https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2692ef57acaa for causing bug 834883? Still trying to get my local repo out of whatever bad state it's in.
3226. # [23:33] <Jesse> are "WebIDL bindings" and "Paris bindings" the same thing?
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3231. # [23:34] <mbrubeck> Jesse: Yeah, I think so - if I understand right, Paris is our system for defining bindings using WebIDL.
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3234. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6baaa5cff198 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 2692ef57acaa (bug 789358) for causing bug 834883
3235. # [23:36] <philor> mbrubeck: you can do the bug-pasting part?
3236. # [23:38] <philor> crap, bjacob has some android R4 bustage
3237. # [23:38] <philor> well, somebody in all that build bustage does, anyway
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3239. # [23:39] <bjacob> philor: looking
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3243. # [23:40] <bjacob> philor: the first push i can see with it failing is mbrubeck's https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=2692ef57acaa
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3246. # [23:41] <bjacob> philor: mbrubeck: ah wait, it's a crash, so it may not have that failure
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3250. # [23:42] <bjacob> philor: there is no way that my webgl-tests-only push could cause a svg reftest to fail
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3252. # [23:43] <philor> okay, but my lunch hour is over now, so inbound's closing, I'll be back home and able to deal with it by around 7pm Pacific
3253. # [23:43] <bjacob> philor: on the other hand i can't rule out the possibility that a920571903da would regress it
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3255. # [23:43] <philor> CLOSED TREE, if anyone has backouts to push
3256. # [23:44] <bjacob> philor: let's try backing out my a920571903da
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3260. # [23:45] <mbrubeck> philor|away: I'll comment in the bug; thanks!
3261. # [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6ab6b0770ce - Benoit Jacob - Bug 827170 - back out a920571903da to see if it is what caused SVG reftests (android R4) to fail - no review, bustage on a CLOSED TREE
3262. # [23:47] <bjacob> philor|away: ^ pushed backout
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3282. # [23:59] <cjones> mbrubeck, ping
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