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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 26 00:00:01 2013
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  12. # [00:06] <mbrubeck> cjones: pong
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  24. # [00:12] <cjones> hi mbrubeck, do you know if metrofox uses the old cross-process IME support?
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  26. # [00:13] <mbrubeck> cjones: It does not; we are currently using in-process content for metrofox.
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  28. # [00:14] <mbrubeck> cjones: We're trying to keep the metrofox front-end e10s-friendly so that we can re-enable OOP content in the future without too much work (possibly as a guinea pig for e10s on desktop), but it's not on our roadmap for the first metro release.
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  30. # [00:15] <cjones> mbrubeck, alright. i'll try not to break that support but not extraordinarily hard ;)
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  60. # [00:36] <philor> I'm starting to wonder if we're going to succeed at making Win64 tier 3, since even akeybl's filing bugs about it now :)
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  62. # [00:38] <akeybl> ah that's a good reason philor
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  65. # [00:39] * aja wonders when PGO is gonna be tier-somethinglessthan1
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  68. # [00:40] * JosiahOne Wonders wether aja knows deep down that it will probably never happen...
  69. # [00:40] <aja> i do
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  74. # [00:41] <JosiahOne> Ah, you read my mind! What kind of person are you aja?
  75. # [00:41] <aja> phychic
  76. # [00:41] <aja> psychotic?
  77. # [00:42] <aja> whatever :)
  78. # [00:42] <JosiahOne> … That's it, I'm writing my patch, then I am going to go scream at a pillow. :0
  79. # [00:43] <JosiahOne> Wait… I think being a developer gives you the ability to be a psychic.
  80. # [00:43] <JosiahOne> Okay, I'm good now.
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  82. # [00:44] <jhammel> stand back! aja has psychotic powerz!
  83. # [00:45] <JosiahOne> jhammel: Don't worry, it turns out that being a developer grants you the ability to be a psychic.
  84. # [00:45] <JosiahOne> It's pretty awesome.
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  88. # [00:47] <jhammel> i've heard pscyhosis called a disability before...but not so much without the prefix
  89. # [00:47] <Waldo> JosiahOne: actually I wouldn't be at all surprised if Windows PGO got deprecated at some point
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  91. # [00:47] <JosiahOne> Waldo: Yeah, it could happen.
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  98. # [00:49] <aja> Waldo: i won't argue....with the top developer ;)
  99. # [00:49] <Waldo> haha
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  104. # [00:50] <Waldo> it's possibly more likely that PGO with newer compilers is less fragile, and that updating to a newer compiler would make PGO easier to work with
  105. # [00:50] <Waldo> if that were so, PGO would be much more likely to stick around
  106. # [00:50] <Waldo> right now, it's a fairly frequent yet unpredictable thorn in our side
  107. # [00:51] <JosiahOne> Waldo: Okay. I actually don't really use it, so I wouldn't know a whole lot on this subject.
  108. # [00:51] <JosiahOne> :)
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  110. # [00:52] <jhammel> wrt PGO, i was unclear....were we targetting win64, would our woes be any better?
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  112. # [00:52] <khuey> yes
  113. # [00:53] <khuey> our woes would be better
  114. # [00:53] <seth> fantastic woes
  115. # [00:54] <jhammel> i'd take fantastic woes over horrid woes
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  117. # [00:55] <BenWa> khuey: How do you figure symbol coalescing? This stack looks sane to me
  118. # [00:56] <BenWa> The template types are getting coalesce but that's about it
  119. # [00:58] <JosiahOne> Could somebody explain this: "Connect to the Mozilla wireless network with your new LDAP credentials."
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  121. # [00:59] <mwu> exciting times on inbound
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  125. # [01:03] <KWierso|Home> JosiahOne: what about it? if you're in a mozilla office, you can connect to the mozilla wifi network with your ldap email and password
  126. # [01:04] <JosiahOne> KWierso|Home: But I am not in the office, I am at home.
  127. # [01:04] <KWierso|Home> then it doesn't apply to you
  128. # [01:04] <jhammel> then the network is probably out of range ;)
  129. # [01:04] <philor> needs moar Pringles
  130. # [01:04] <seth> 🎉
  131. # [01:05] <khuey> BenWa: what points to indexedDB other than the coalesced symbols?
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  133. # [01:05] <JosiahOne> How come I can't get the Rest Mozila WiFi Password to extract?
  134. # [01:05] <khuey> BenWa: this looks like someone in JS is holding on to a statement
  135. # [01:06] <BenWa> khuey: I don't understand. The callstack is plausible no?
  136. # [01:07] <khuey> yes, it is
  137. # [01:07] <khuey> but I don't see what it has to do with indexeddb
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  139. # [01:08] <BenWa> khuey: Well that depends. Perhaps indexed DB should itself force close all the connection
  140. # [01:08] <BenWa> but otherwise it's a user error for using a destructor to do it
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  142. # [01:10] <khuey> BenWa: I don't see anything here, other than the symbols that we think are coalesced, that points to anything to do with IndexedDB ...
  143. # [01:11] <Callek> philor: once you pop you can't stop :-P
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  145. # [01:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d8a545b0cb29 - Jason Duell - Bug 832162 - fix jar BuildSynthetics r=taras, a=akeybl
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  150. # [01:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5932391eb74a - David Keeler - bug 809846 - CTP: activate dynamically added plugins of the same type when using popup notification (beta) r=jaws a=akeybl
  151. # [01:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5b312c4d8130 - David Keeler - bug 820497 - update popup notification for click-to-play more often (beta) r=jaws a=lsblakk
  152. # [01:23] <Waldo> JosiahOne: is that Livonia? I used to live in Walled Lake, eight years ago
  153. # [01:24] <JosiahOne> Waldo: No, but I am very close to it.
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  155. # [01:24] <Waldo> yeah, hostname was likely to be imprecise like that
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  157. # [01:25] <JosiahOne> Waldo: Yep, where are you now?
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  159. # [01:26] <Waldo> JosiahOne: Mountain View now, so out of the state
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  161. # [01:27] <JosiahOne> Waldo: Clearly.
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  163. # [01:27] <Waldo> still have family in MI in Walled Lake, tho, so I visit from time to time
  164. # [01:27] <JosiahOne> Waldo: Yeah. My family is in MI, Florida, and Texas.
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  166. # [01:27] <JosiahOne> So I don't get to go over to California very often.
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  176. # [01:36] <seth> when you run a single mochitest using TEST_PATH, is the mochitest firefox window supposed to close automatically? or should it just sit there at the "Passed: X Failed: Y" screen?
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  178. # [01:36] <jhammel> seth: the latter
  179. # [01:36] <jhammel> (for some reason)
  180. # [01:37] <seth> jhammel: unexpected but i'm glad that's normal. thanks
  181. # [01:37] <jhammel> seth: FWIW, I consider it bad behaviour (nor do I remember the "feature" it magically enables)
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  183. # [01:38] <seth> agreed
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  194. # [01:42] <fitzgen> can anyone tell me why I might be getting a "blah is not iterable" error when blah's prototype has a __iterator__ method that is a generator function?
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  196. # [01:42] <fitzgen> If I s/__iterator__/iter/ on the proto and for-of blah.iter() instead of blah itself, everything works as expected
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  203. # [01:46] <khuey> BenWa: did you give up on arguing with me? :-P
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  205. # [01:47] <Waldo> fitzgen: __iterator__ should be a function that *returns* a generator
  206. # [01:48] <fitzgen> Waldo: so I shouldn't be yeilding directly in __iterator__?
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  208. # [01:48] <Waldo> fitzgen: I don't think so -- search for another __iterator__ in MXR to verify this
  209. # [01:48] <fitzgen> Waldo: doesn't look like it
  210. # [01:48] <fitzgen> Waldo: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/debugger/debugger-view.js#1149
  211. # [01:48] <fitzgen> I am basically copying this
  212. # [01:49] <fitzgen> yeild is in the __iterator__ body
  213. # [01:49] <Waldo> fitzgen: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/tests/js1_7/extensions/basic-Iterator.js#48
  214. # [01:49] <Mavericks> fitzgen: nothing wrong there. with the yield in iterator body
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  217. # [01:50] <Mavericks> hmm
  218. # [01:50] <Waldo> I'm not sure I believe your link to actually work as intended
  219. # [01:50] <fitzgen> Waldo: that whitespace... wtf is going on
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  222. # [01:50] <Waldo> probably tabs? *shrug*
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  225. # [01:51] <Waldo> which is a little odd, because I think I wrote that test, and I'm usually pretty careful about that
  226. # [01:51] <fitzgen> hmmm
  227. # [01:51] <Waldo> should be consistent two-space indentation
  228. # [01:51] <Waldo> *is*, in most other JS code I write
  229. # [01:52] <fitzgen> Waldo: yeild is in the __iterator__ body on mdn too, I am pretty sure it is fine
  230. # [01:52] <fitzgen> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript/Guide/Iterators_and_Generators
  231. # [01:52] <seth> looks like ya got some tabs in there, pardner
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  233. # [01:52] <fitzgen> see the second Range example
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  236. # [01:54] <Waldo> ...I have no idea how that even workse
  237. # [01:54] <Waldo> s/se$/s/
  238. # [01:55] <Waldo> er, no
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  240. # [01:55] <Waldo> well
  241. # [01:55] <Waldo> okay, I dunno
  242. # [01:56] <fitzgen> Waldo: well the first time you call it, it returns a new generator
  243. # [01:56] <Waldo> it seems like there must be some sort of is-this-a-generator-or-is-it-a-function check
  244. # [01:56] <Waldo> which is awful, but probably par for the course in loosey-goosey implicit JS
  245. # [01:57] <Waldo> thing is I thought we tried to avoid that sort of thing in new stuff
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  250. # [01:58] <fitzgen> Waldo: would it possibly have to do with that I am trying to do the iterating in a list comprehension?
  251. # [01:58] <fitzgen> Waldo: like so: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2086560
  252. # [01:59] <Waldo> dunno
  253. # [01:59] <fitzgen> Waldo: should I file a js engine bug?
  254. # [01:59] <Waldo> probably not
  255. # [01:59] <Waldo> well
  256. # [01:59] <Waldo> I dunno
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  258. # [02:00] <Waldo> I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong, but I don't know what that would be, without investigating more than I have time to do now
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  260. # [02:00] <fitzgen> Waldo: ok, thanks for brainstorming wiht me
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  264. # [02:03] <Waldo> np
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  278. # [02:17] <dcrewi> seth: you can pass additional flags to have it automatically close (RE: mochitest question earlier)
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  283. # [02:25] <cpeterson> what is the current state of inbound bustage?
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  285. # [02:25] <philor> unfixed
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  287. # [02:26] <cpeterson> <:\
  288. # [02:26] <cpeterson> thanks, philor
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  292. # [02:28] <philor> if nobody sacks up and does something about it, I'll be home in about 90 minutes, and we'll have a "just wait until your sheriff gets home" backout of everything
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  296. # [02:30] <seth> dcrewi: that's good to know
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  325. # [02:56] <@dbaron> the remaining inbound bustage is the Android R4?
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  354. # [03:15] <firebot> Check-in:
  355. # [03:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7a25c052c5a - L. David Baron - Backout ccf23b56150e (bug 832576) on a CLOSED TREE on the theory that maybe WebGL changes could have changed graphics state in a way that caused the Android reftest-4
  356. # [03:15] <firebot> failures on SVG gradient tests.
  357. # [03:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9d98ffe9ecc - L. David Baron - Backout 8f213db8fe7f and 31399fd0cb5b (Bug 791432) on a CLOSED TREE on the theory that maybe WebGL changes could have changed graphics state in a way that caused the
  358. # [03:15] <firebot> Android reftest-4 failures on SVG gradient tests.
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  388. # [03:34] <philor> woo, surgical backouts!
  389. # [03:35] * philor puts away the scythe
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  392. # [03:37] <Callek> scythe is far from surgical :-P
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  396. # [03:38] <KWierso|Home> better than the guillotine...
  397. # [03:38] <Callek> no guillotine is very specific-use one person per yank. Scythe is meant for wide sweeping "mowing"
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  399. # [03:40] <@dolske> The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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  402. # [03:41] <philor> You killed my tree. Prepare to die.
  403. # [03:42] <philor> but yes, the scythe is non-surgical, thus "puts away" as in puts away unused, because the need to mow down everyone who landed on busted builds is probably gone
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  418. # [04:02] <@dbaron> philor, if the surgical backouts don't work, you'll probably need to try the scythe, because I didn't have any other ideas
  419. # [04:02] <@dbaron> philor, anyway, I'm heading to dinner
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  477. # [05:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d587ccbcc359 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 5a56a56a6481:a5969a01955b (bug 834414) to investigate whether it caused reftest-4 failures
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  480. # [05:02] <philor> choices, choices
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  482. # [05:02] <philor> I can clear the decks and just reopen now, or I can wait on that
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  489. # [05:15] <WeirdAl> ahh, the weekend: when I have my own time :)
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  491. # [05:19] <@dolske> bachelor high-five!
  492. # [05:19] <@dolske> ahem.
  493. # [05:21] <@bz> lol
  494. # [05:22] <@dolske> :D
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  548. # [06:54] <philor> now, what did we learn?
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  550. # [06:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20ca3148d336 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 827170 - Clamp intermediate surface's framebuffer dimensions to what is supported by the GL - r=BenWa
  551. # [06:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b52b445017c9 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 791432 - fix build bustage - no review
  552. # [06:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf4db0037c7e - Benoit Jacob - Bug 791432 - blacklist WebGL on HTC One S ("ville") - r=jgilbert
  553. # [06:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91b952220896 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 832576 - Fix perf regression in WebGL uniform setters - r=jgilbert
  554. # [06:59] <philor> ruh roh, there's one of those I can't access
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  581. # [07:36] <firebot> optimizer was last seen 14 hours, 7 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying 'thanks bsmedberg' in #developers.
  582. # [07:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42eb5399753e - Sean Stangl - Bug 834762 - yarr/MatchResult.h:58:44: warning: overflow in implicit constant conversion [-Woverflow]. r=warning-spam
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  666. # [10:05] <Waldo> anyone around who can explain the b2g18 tree requirements/rules, since https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules doesn't?
  667. # [10:05] <Waldo> #b2g is *crickets*
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  669. # [10:07] <KWierso|Home> Waldo: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.b2g/6yXyVSHAxJo ?
  670. # [10:08] * Waldo shrugs
  671. # [10:09] <Waldo> KWierso|Home: basically I want to be absolutely certain I can just smack a "a=tef+" on the end of https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccade0070fb8 for bug 830257 and cowboy it into /releases/mozilla-b2g18/
  672. # [10:09] * Waldo has the port done and an editor opened to edit the commit message
  673. # [10:10] <KWierso|Home> I got nothin. maybe a sheriff is around?
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  675. # [10:12] <Waldo> fabrice|zZz did say earlier the next step was to land it in b2g18, so I might just do it and assume I've gotten all the steps right
  676. # [10:12] <Waldo> but it was a single line of conversation, slightly more peremptory and not-detailedly-informative than I'd like if I'm going to be the one landing it
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  681. # [10:14] <KWierso|Home> tef+ bugs can land directly on the current v1.0.0 branches (see above)
  682. # [10:14] <KWierso|Home> Waldo: from https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Release_Management/B2G_Landing&amp;diff=502435&amp;oldid=prev
  683. # [10:15] <Waldo> is tef+ the new basecamp+ or something? I don't see tef mentioned anywhere on that page
  684. # [10:15] <KWierso|Home> tef+ -> v1.0.0 (tagged close to FF18's release)
  685. # [10:17] <Waldo> o/~ The children were all snug in their beds, while visions of release branches danced in their heads o/~
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  687. # [10:18] <KWierso|Home> dunno if the "before 1/25" or "after 1/25" rules apply right now
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  689. # [10:18] <Waldo> ...I think they might, judging by the last few things on ?tree=Mozilla-B2g18
  690. # [10:18] <Waldo> :-(
  691. # [10:18] <Waldo> maybe
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  694. # [10:20] <Waldo> so I guess maybe I want to put my change atop B2G_1_0_0_20130115070201
  695. # [10:20] <Waldo> and maybe atop the default head too?
  696. # [10:22] <Waldo> yeah, I guess default is 101, other one is 100
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  698. # [10:24] <aki> Waldo: this stuff is all in churn
  699. # [10:24] <Waldo> well, https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-b2g18/rev/07b08b51bf0e for going atop tip
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  701. # [10:25] <aki> that'll be good for 1.0.1 . you may need to add to http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-b2g18_v1_0_0/ later
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  704. # [10:26] <aki> there should be some more decision-making and communication this weekend
  705. # [10:26] <aki> sorry you got caught landing when things are still in flux
  706. # [10:26] <Waldo> well, probably I should get used to landing in this b2g18 thing at some point, so eh
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  709. # [10:31] <Waldo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830257#c29 and I think I'm done for now
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  711. # [10:31] <Waldo> thanks all for the help!
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  851. # [14:28] <mounir> jwatt: I see, you use the week-end to bitrot my patches
  852. # [14:28] <mounir> jwatt: this is unfair practices! :o
  853. # [14:28] <jwatt> mounir: heh, sorry
  854. # [14:28] <jwatt> I would have used the weekdays, but the tree was closed
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  856. # [14:28] <mounir> jwatt: why https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bcf7ce80fec btw?
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  858. # [14:29] <jwatt> mounir: commented in the bug
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  863. # [14:44] <mounir> ok, will look at that while reading my bugmails
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  877. # [15:02] <Optimizer> the keyCode of '#' is 16, now how to get the character from the number 16 ?
  878. # [15:03] <fryn> Optimizer: String.charCodeAt(16)
  879. # [15:03] <Optimizer> 49
  880. # [15:03] <fryn> oh wait
  881. # [15:03] <fryn> you wrote keyCode
  882. # [15:03] <Optimizer> yup
  883. # [15:03] <fryn> keyCode and charCode do not match up
  884. # [15:03] <Optimizer> yup
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  886. # [15:04] <fryn> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  887. # [15:05] <Optimizer> :D
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  897. # [15:12] <Optimizer> fryn: (ﾉಥ益ಥ）ﾉ uʎɹɟ
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  974. # [16:49] <NeilAway> Optimizer: you don't. use charCode for characters and keyCode for non-characters
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  1004. # [17:07] <aleth> How can I get a localised date string of the kind "Wednesday, October 3, 2007"? toLocaleDateString returns a numerical date only
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  1008. # [17:09] <aleth> Ideally it should use the locale from general.useragent.locale...
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  1026. # [17:20] <Optimizer> aleth: wfm
  1027. # [17:22] <aleth> Optimizer: It's OS-dependent
  1028. # [17:22] <aleth> It doesn't work on Linux for example.
  1029. # [17:22] <Optimizer> which one ?
  1030. # [17:22] <Optimizer> oh
  1031. # [17:22] <Optimizer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  1091. # [18:10] <RealRaven> ping
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  1100. # [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1bd83d06914 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 834995 - Fix race condition in mozStorageConnection.cpp. r=mak77
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  1117. # [18:25] <Jesse> michal: are there plans to do something like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816642 for mac?
  1118. # [18:25] <Jesse> taras said "This is especially bad on mac os and android." in comment 0 :(
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  1124. # [18:26] <michal> Jesse: I'll file a follow-up bug for this, but work on this is not on top of my todo list...
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  1131. # [18:30] <Jesse> michal: thanks
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  1174. # [18:45] <till> Anybody here who could tell me how to get proper stacktraces for try server builds?
  1175. # [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19f630648c80 - Gary Kwong - Backout changeset 425835f6a9e2. The leak is still showing up, so re-add the suppression entry. DONTBUILD
  1176. # [18:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52c92a6c6e24 - Mike Hommey - Bug 833882 - Correctly handle non chrome directories when doing l10n-repack. r=gps
  1177. # [18:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42c6c0c90d55 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
  1178. # [18:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f18b12139151 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-centos6-hp-007 - a=blocklist-update
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  1183. # [18:49] <till> Specifically, I have a crash report whose dump Soccorro doesn't properly analyze. Isn't that what the *crashreporter-symbols.zip file is supposed to provide?
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  1185. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> What platform?
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  1188. # [18:55] <till> OS X
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  1191. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/add0b94c2c0b - Reuben Morais - Bug 793204 - Add remove() API to PermissionSettings. r=sicking
  1192. # [18:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51d02de3f48e - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 832487 - Update libpng to version 1.5.14. r=joedrew
  1193. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb2f0c1fffc2 - Shriram Kunchanapalli - Bug 820613 - Remove all references to shutdown-cleanse. r=bsmedberg
  1194. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad7031235de1 - Sunny - Bug 806770 - Fix strict mode warning in richlistbox.xml. r=Yoric
  1195. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/698a863a2771 - Sunny - Bug 831533 - Show the enabled/disabled/blocklisted state of plugins in about:plugins. r=bsmedberg
  1196. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> till, how old is your m-c?
  1197. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> In particular, did you hit bug 834228?
  1198. # [18:59] <till> Ms2ger: My build was based on yesterday's m-i
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  1200. # [19:00] <till> ah
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  1202. # [19:02] <till> Ms2ger: nope, that's not it. I have that patch.
  1203. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> No idea, then
  1204. # [19:03] <till> Ms2ger: know whom I could ask?
  1205. # [19:04] <till> Ms2ger: or where to find any docs on the crashreporter-symbols.zip-thing in general?
  1206. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> ted, I think
  1207. # [19:06] <till> k, thanks
  1208. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1217. # [19:14] <Optimizer> any good example of using the searchLabel property of richlistitem ?
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  1220. # [19:14] <Optimizer> to implement find as you type
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  1371. # [21:10] <Callek> jst: you broke b2g18 https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-B2g18
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  1382. # [21:17] <khuey> Y U ALLOCATE SO MUCH MEMORY
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  1384. # [21:17] <khuey> (INFALLIBLY)
  1385. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> Because we want to be fast?
  1386. # [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6d6b014a076 - Brian Hackett - Bug 832364 - Generate optimized paths for element accesses on native objects, r=jandem.
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  1421. # [22:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b881843d330b - Shane Caraveo - Bug 824162 dont mess with focus until after the event target handles it, r=gavin
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  1427. # [22:15] <jviereck> I'm scared that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822132 didn't got any attention - rendering to canvas is broken for me with HWA which is turned on by default
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  1430. # [22:16] <@smaug> hmm, which version of clang do I need on linux
  1431. # [22:16] <@smaug> 3.0 doesn't seem to work
  1432. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0bc8f7cc420 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 832943 keep explicit reference to our error handling web listeners to avoid unexpected gc, r=felipe
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  1434. # [22:19] <mats> smaug: 3.2 works for me... except there was a regression yesterday (bug 835050)
  1435. # [22:20] <mats> smaug: ... should be fixed soon though
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  1446. # [22:27] <@smaug> fun, old clang can't compile clang
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  1460. # [22:33] <kaie> I want to write a better certificate manager. But I need one that can work in other Linux applications, too. Given that "mozilla xul" is no longer considered a technology platform, I need to find another approach to implement the UI.
  1461. # [22:33] <kaie> I consider to write it in GTK+.
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  1464. # [22:34] <kaie> And if I did, I wonder, if we'd be able to mix that GTK+ UI with the existing XUL UI.
  1465. # [22:34] <jcranmer> kaie: why not write it in HTML? :-)
  1466. # [22:35] <jcranmer> smaug: 3.1 or 3.2 should work on Linux
  1467. # [22:35] <kaie> jcranmer, can you offer me a HTML rendering engine, that is supported for being used as a platform for other applications?
  1468. # [22:36] <jcranmer> kaie: GtkHtml ?
  1469. # [22:36] <jcranmer> that was half in jest though
  1470. # [22:36] <@smaug> using gtk would mean that we'd have to have different UI for osx and windows
  1471. # [22:36] <kaie> jcranmer, we're back at GTK+ then
  1472. # [22:37] <jcranmer> there is no good cross-platform rendering engine
  1473. # [22:37] <@smaug> (QT is good, and reasonable cross-platform ;) )
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  1477. # [22:38] <jcranmer> but anyone who uses GTK+ won't like pulling in QT for an auxiliary app
  1478. # [22:38] <kaie> jcranmer, and given that I all interfaces I need exposed to C/C++, but not to HTML, I don't see going the HTML-UI-implementation as a viable option for this task
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  1480. # [22:38] <jcranmer> I don't do UI
  1481. # [22:40] <NeilAway> kaie: well, many distros still ship xulrunner, so maybe you can stil use it, for now at least?
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  1483. # [22:41] <kaie> NeilAway, if I start a new project, I need a base that seems widely supported and future proof. "Is not officially supported, but still seems to work right now" is not good enough for me
  1484. # [22:42] <kaie> In my understanding XULRunner can go away, or be made unusable because of requirements of Firefox* at any time.
  1485. # [22:43] <@smaug> kaie: well, use Firefox itself? I mean the binary and just run your own chrome?
  1486. # [22:43] <NeilAway> <troll>well, for ultimate future proofness, compile it for windows and run it under wine</troll>
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  1489. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Didn't really need the tags :)
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  1493. # [22:47] <kaie> smaug, I don't think that would work. That's too indirect. I want to implement a certificate manager using an API. I don't see how it would work if I wanted Linux evolution open a certificate manager or just show a certificate, to open a firefox for that. It's not just rendering of stuff. It's API level communication between a calling process (that needs to bring up UI) and retrieve results.
  1494. # [22:48] <kaie> Even if one could make that work, it's overkill.
  1495. # [22:49] <@smaug> kaie: but what part of this would be related to Firefox? FF would use the tool/UI?
  1496. # [22:49] <@smaug> if so, you need to think about non-linux platforms too
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  1498. # [22:49] <kaie> right. I'd want to write a certificate manager (and supporting stuff) that could be universally used by any app that uses the NSS crypto library.
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  1500. # [22:49] <kaie> smaug, GTK+ runs on windows+mac
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  1502. # [22:50] <kaie> I don't have ideas for a universal solution that would cover b2g, too
  1503. # [22:50] <jcranmer> kaie: and we don't ship GTK+-based on Windows/Mac
  1504. # [22:50] <@smaug> but gtk+ is not installed usually on win+mac
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  1506. # [22:50] <jcranmer> nor is it usually installed
  1507. # [22:50] <jcranmer> and we can build on QT on Linux in theory
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  1509. # [22:51] <kaie> well, that could change. If people want to edit certificates, they'd install the certificate manager in addition, and Firefox could have hooks to call it.
  1510. # [22:51] <kaie> or firefox could decide to bundle it
  1511. # [22:51] <jcranmer> your only real cross-platform abstraction is to build an abstract widget layer over Win32/Metro/Cocoa/QT/GTK+/whatever-the-hell-android-uses
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  1514. # [22:52] <jcranmer> kaie: I think GTK+ on Win32 would add another 50MB of installed libraries
  1515. # [22:52] <kaie> I don't have the luxury to optimize in size
  1516. # [22:53] <jcranmer> I think the Firefox people might take issue at the extra size of installed libraries for such a "niche" feature
  1517. # [22:53] <kaie> given that nobody else really wants to put resources into a better certificate manager, I need to find a way to do the work just once
  1518. # [22:53] <kaie> and my highest priorities include the non-mozilla linux world
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  1520. # [22:54] <jcranmer> there you have gtk+/qt issues
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  1522. # [22:54] <@smaug> could you make it abstract so that XUL UI and Gtk+ UI could be implemented?
  1523. # [22:54] <IanN> anyone building on OS X 10.8?
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  1525. # [22:55] <jcranmer> that's why I said your best bet is a magic widget abstraction layer
  1526. # [22:55] <jlebar|away> mats: Orange on your inbound push.
  1527. # [22:55] <jlebar|away> mats: at least, to my untrained eye. :)
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  1529. # [22:55] <bjacob> i have a stupid question about XPCOM
  1530. # [22:56] <bjacob> can QueryInterface of a heap pointer ever return a pointer that's not in the same heap block?
  1531. # [22:56] <jlebar|away> bjacob: tearoffs.
  1532. # [22:56] <jlebar|away> I think.
  1533. # [22:56] <bjacob> jlebar|away: /me looks that up
  1534. # [22:57] <stuart> bjacob: i don't see why not
  1535. # [22:57] <jlebar|away> bjacob: that's good, because I can't provide much more of an explanation than that. :)
  1536. # [22:57] <jcranmer> bjacob: QueryInterface can in theory return results to other objects
  1537. # [22:57] <jcranmer> we do this, for example, in XPCWrappedJS
  1538. # [22:57] <bjacob> jcranmer: ok thanks
  1539. # [22:57] <jcranmer> I think
  1540. # [22:57] <jcranmer> I don't purport to understand XPConnect
  1541. # [22:57] <kaie> smaug, that would essentially mean doing the work twice
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  1543. # [22:58] <kaie> because I want to implement the logic in C++, without JS/XPCOM indirections
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  1546. # [22:59] <@smaug> xpcom can be quite thin layer, or one could use ctypes
  1547. # [23:00] <kaie> another main point is, I want to make all decisions for the general certificate manager UI on my own - without asking anyone at mozilla for permission
  1548. # [23:01] <kaie> it would be an offer for mozilla to use it
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  1550. # [23:01] <@smaug> so it would be like using print dialog
  1551. # [23:01] <jcranmer> a GTK+-based UI (on all platforms) is probably a nonstarter for Mozilla
  1552. # [23:02] <@smaug> yeah, it would need to be cross-platform
  1553. # [23:02] <kaie> gtk+ can be cross platform
  1554. # [23:02] <@smaug> makes no sense to bundle gtk+ with Firefox
  1555. # [23:02] <jcranmer> it would bloat FF's download size greatly for a minor feature
  1556. # [23:02] <kaie> I'm willing to consider other solutions, but not xul
  1557. # [23:02] <kaie> I had considered FLTK
  1558. # [23:02] <mats> jlebar|away: I don't see any orange "C" on my push (I pushed new crash tests, no code changes)
  1559. # [23:03] <@smaug> kaie: would it be possible to have abstract UI, or API for the think, and you'd implement gtk+ UI and let someone else to implement XUL UI
  1560. # [23:04] <jlebar|away> mats: :-/ The OSX 10.6 debug moth orange appears in your push and after, but not before. Maybe it's a known orange, but tbpl doesn't suggest it...
  1561. # [23:04] <@smaug> s/think/thing/
  1562. # [23:04] <jlebar|away> mats: But like I said, <-- untrained eye.
  1563. # [23:06] <kaie> smaug, maybe. probably. but what happens if I end up with a situation, where I've gone the extra work to implement the abstraction indirections - and then nobody bothers to do the xul implementation work (likely, because these things usually get the lowest priority)?
  1564. # [23:06] <kaie> it would mean that I have fixed the non-mozilla linux world, but haven't fixed firefox - and if I wanted to fix firefox - it seems likely that I would have to do it myself
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  1566. # [23:06] <kaie> I don't believe in getting contributions from mozilla for this
  1567. # [23:06] <kaie> that's why I'm asking for an interface to call my stuff
  1568. # [23:07] <@smaug> well, having just gkt+ UI means firefox wouldn't be fixed
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  1570. # [23:07] <jcranmer> kaie: you might spur Linux to come up with a GTK+-or-QT UI solution with that approach
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  1572. # [23:07] <jcranmer> (Linux UI isn't just GTK+)
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  1574. # [23:07] <kaie> jcranmer, I don't understand what you mean "might spur linux"
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  1576. # [23:08] <jcranmer> sorry, missing a few words there
  1577. # [23:08] <jcranmer> you might spur other projects to contribute to a QT impl
  1578. # [23:08] <jcranmer> which truly fixes non-Mozilla Linux
  1579. # [23:08] <kaie> you believe a full linux solution would require both gtk+ and qt implementations?
  1580. # [23:09] <jcranmer> probably
  1581. # [23:09] <kaie> well. if the point is that gtk+ pulls in too many dependencies to be acceptable for qt based applications, then...
  1582. # [23:09] <jcranmer> of course, there are also gtk+-on-qt and qt-on-gtk+ stuff
  1583. # [23:10] <jcranmer> I don't fully understand the toolkit debate
  1584. # [23:10] <jcranmer> s/debate/flamewars/
  1585. # [23:10] <kaie> maybe I would be better off using a very leightweight toolkit like FLTK, which doesn't contain and non-UI stuff, and ...
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  1587. # [23:10] <kaie> which might be able to coexist with any other gui-toolkit in the same process.
  1588. # [23:11] <mats> jlebar|away: I triggered a few Moth reruns to see if it's perma-orange
  1589. # [23:11] <kaie> s/contain and non-UI/contain anY non-UI/
  1590. # [23:11] <jlebar|away> mats++
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  1592. # [23:12] <kaie> so, let's say, I'd implement a new certificate manager using FLTK - which is cross platform across Linux+Mac+Windows, and which is leightweight (e.g. 500 KB) and is designed to be statically linked...
  1593. # [23:12] <@smaug> kaie: how complicated would the UI be?
  1594. # [23:12] <kaie> would that work, and would we be able to find a way to call that external UI from within mozilla?
  1595. # [23:12] <@smaug> since if it is something reasonable simple, just implementing UI once using XUL/HTML/JS and once using Gtk+ might not be so bad
  1596. # [23:13] * jcranmer checks FLTK license
  1597. # [23:13] <kaie> smaug, the stuff that you find in edit/prefs/advanced/encryption
  1598. # [23:13] <kaie> but a newer, better implementation, with a different usability approach
  1599. # [23:13] <jcranmer> LGPL with static linking exemption
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  1601. # [23:14] <kaie> smaug, the complicated part is the JS+XPCONNECT+XUL interaction, which I no longer want to deal with.
  1602. # [23:15] <@smaug> not sure what is complicated with that
  1603. # [23:15] <kaie> I'd want to implement scriptable XPCOM code in C++ that can be activated from Mozilla's UZ JS if you want
  1604. # [23:15] <@smaug> you don't need to think about xpconnect
  1605. # [23:15] <@smaug> ah, hmm
  1606. # [23:15] <@smaug> so would ctypes work?
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  1609. # [23:17] <@smaug> ok, didn't manage install new clang
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  1614. # [23:17] <jcranmer> kaie: if you can expose everything via C ABIs, then jsctypes should work for you
  1615. # [23:17] <kaie> let's say my cert manager stuff library has a universal API for use by any kind of app. Then we could wrap that API in scriptable XPCOM APIs
  1616. # [23:18] <@smaug> yes, that could lead to XUL UI and Gtk+ UI
  1617. # [23:18] <@smaug> (and other UIs, also Qt)
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  1619. # [23:19] <kaie> smaug, no, the API would say: "edit this object" or "show this group of objects"
  1620. # [23:19] <kaie> and everything else would be internal
  1621. # [23:19] <kaie> if you want a xul api, you'll have to fully repeat my work
  1622. # [23:19] <kaie> err, if you want a xul implementation
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  1626. # [23:21] <@smaug> ah
  1627. # [23:21] <@smaug> kaie: well, how big is FLTK? can you integrate it to other toolkits?
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  1630. # [23:21] <@smaug> how would main loop work with it?
  1631. # [23:23] <kaie> a few hundred kb. I don't know the answer to the main loop question yet. good point.
  1632. # [23:23] <jcranmer> looks like FLTK wants to run its own main loop?
  1633. # [23:23] <jcranmer> http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.3/basics.html
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  1635. # [23:25] <jcranmer> it also uses low-level X11 events instead of GTK+/QT--I don't know how well it would mesh with a GTK+-based program
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  1637. # [23:26] <@smaug> mats: want to land that clang fix to m-c?
  1638. # [23:26] <@smaug> oh
  1639. # [23:26] <@smaug> does it need to go to some other tree
  1640. # [23:27] <jcranmer> it looks like it could be used as a standalone program, but I'm not sure it could run a GUI from the current program
  1641. # [23:27] <mats> smaug: it's NSS
  1642. # [23:27] <jcranmer> kaie: smaug ^^^
  1643. # [23:28] <kaie> we should ensure the patch works with NSS on all platforms / NSS test suite machines
  1644. # [23:28] <kaie> are you blocked by this failure?
  1645. # [23:28] <kaie> I assume you talk about that intel-gcm assembler problem
  1646. # [23:29] <mats> kaie: not really, I've imported the patch locally for now
  1647. # [23:29] <mats> kaie: yes
  1648. # [23:30] <kaie> ok, if you're not blocked, is my proposal acceptable? wait until wtc checks it into NSS, we wait for the NSS tests, and then give up an updated NSS beta tag by monday?
  1649. # [23:30] <kaie> s/give up/give you/
  1650. # [23:30] <kaie> => for mozilla-central
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  1653. # [23:31] <mats> kaie: yeah, that's fine
  1654. # [23:32] <@smaug> mats: this is a recent regression? I'd assume quite many devs use clang, especially on OSX
  1655. # [23:32] <@smaug> or is this linux only
  1656. # [23:32] <mats> smaug: a day old or so
  1657. # [23:33] <@smaug> would be good to get fixed before Monday
  1658. # [23:33] <mats> smaug: I don't know which clang versions / platforms are affected
  1659. # [23:34] <mats> smaug: I only knows it's broken with clang 3.2 on Linux64
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  1661. # [23:34] <kaie> jcranmer, search http://www.fltk.org/documentation.php/doc-1.1/osissues.html for fl_handle
  1662. # [23:36] <jcranmer> kaie: that's only X though
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  1673. # [23:45] <mats> jlebar|away: all Moth reruns were green, and 2 more green in later pushes
  1674. # [23:46] <mats> jlebar|away: ok if I file a bug on the intermittent orange?
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  1677. # [23:48] <jcranmer> why is it that I end up having to fix stuff in probably the most egregiously written code in all of Mozilla?
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  1679. # [23:49] <sfink> you're fixing stuff that broke
  1680. # [23:49] <sfink> stuff broke in the most egregiously written code
  1681. # [23:49] <sfink> what's the question again? :-)
  1682. # [23:50] <jcranmer> this is mailnews' libmime and compose code
  1683. # [23:50] <jcranmer> some of this code is very clearly C-vintage
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  1685. # [23:54] <jcranmer> great
  1686. # [23:54] <jcranmer> do I have a test which occasionally crashes?
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  1688. # [23:56] <JosiahOne> Why would a try server fail on OS X 10.7, when I built it successfully on my own OS X machine?
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