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# [00:03] <Mossop> RyanVM: Wait, I know the problem, it needs a clobber
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# [00:04] <Mossop> RyanVM: Can I just land a change to the clobber file?
# [00:04] <RyanVM> i'm clobbering inbound now, please push a clobber file change
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# [00:05] <sfink> is VidyoDesktop on linux good for anything other than dropping large core files in my home directory?
# [00:05] <sfink> though I have to admit, it is very good at that
# [00:05] <jhammel> sfink: for me it was very good at clicking on the download button to install and not installing
# [00:06] <jhammel> and, since its flash, i can't actually figure out what was wrong
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# [00:06] <jhammel> i *wish* i could get core files! ;)
# [00:07] <sfink> I can send you half a dozen if you'd like
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# [00:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1eda57437ca - Dave Townsend - Bug 793928: Update the CLOBBER file to make sure preprocessed modules pick up the new location of the promise library.
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# [00:07] <jhammel> sfink: thanks, but no thanks ;)
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# [00:11] <glazou> bonjour
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# [00:12] <glazou> so I'm serving as a go-to-bed clock every day for many of you with my daily "bonjour". If you're in the SF moz offices and want to meet me, i'm in the DNA lounge meeting room
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# [00:14] <philor> ehsan: warning, as error
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# [00:15] <@ehsan> philor: fix pushed
# [00:15] <Jesse> philor: I had a dream that there was a campaign to reinstate alcohol prohibition. It was called "back out the backout".
# [00:15] <glazou> hi ehsan
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# [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b52eded5b89 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 837033 - HTMLButtonElement should QI to its CC participant. r=bz
# [00:15] <philor> heh
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# [00:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36304c47f23b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 792263 follow-up: Use class instead of struct to satisfy pesky compiler warnings (or rather, errors)
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# [00:16] <dholbert> sfink, WFM
# [00:16] <@ehsan> glazou: hey
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# [00:19] <jcranmer> hmm
# [00:19] <jcranmer> so
# [00:19] <jcranmer> I have a <ul> being displayed as multi-column by CSS
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# [00:20] <jcranmer> are over-long lines in <li> supposd to not wrap?
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# [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e1d18b12979 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 837253: When declaring JSObject as a friend, use 'class' instead of 'struct' to fix MSVC warning-spam. r=dvander
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# [00:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b10397812c05 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 836348: Mark toolkit/components/autocomplete as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=mak
# [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65ed5b0f1020 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 835867: Use 'nsRefPtr' and 'forget()' in nsNavHistory.cpp instead of manual NS_ADDREF calls. r=mak
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# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c00a6b146150 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 808785. Stop shipping d3dx9_43.dll. r=bjacob
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# [00:28] <bjacob> jrmuizel: yay
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# [00:32] <RyanVM> mfinkle: looks like you're ok
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# [00:33] <@ehsan> is somebody backing Mossop out?
# [00:34] <Mossop> ehsan: We've clobbered
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# [00:34] <@ehsan> Mossop: oh ok, so backout not necessary?
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# [00:35] <Mossop> ehsan: Nope
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# [00:35] <@ehsan> Mossop: \o/
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# [00:36] <@smaug> oh, I managed to get through to moznet
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# [00:36] * Callek wonders what the use of this magic "CLOBBER" file is, if we never use it ;-P
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# [00:37] <Jesse> Callek: eh? it's new, and we used it yesterday
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# [00:37] <Mossop> Callek: Well I didn't actually know a clobber was necessary until I landed ;)
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# [00:37] <Callek> Jesse: I was more teasing because I hear of the "we clobbered, to fix this" a lot :-)
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# [00:38] <Callek> and yea, I know it is really used though
# [00:38] <Jesse> well, hopefully we clobbered by updating the CLOBBER file
# [00:38] <Callek> nope ;-)
# [00:38] <Mossop> It got updated
# [00:38] <Callek> most of the time when I hear "we clobbered to fix" its never touched
# [00:38] <Callek> Mossop: if you did touch it, Mossop++ then
# [00:39] <@gavin> does touching CLOBBER auto-clobber tinderbox machines?
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# [00:39] <philor> no
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# [00:40] <Callek> gavin: s/^<philor>\tno/<Callek>\tnot yet/
# [00:40] <catlee> it will just turn everything red
# [00:41] <Callek> catlee: but that is the point of the CLOBBER file :-P
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# [00:41] <philor> oh, not yet? like, since last night someone filed a bug about having it do more than just halt and catch fire?
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# [00:42] <mmc> does anyone know how to get mach xpcshell-test <test> not to delete the dump file? I get
# [00:42] <mmc> 0:06.08 <<<<<<<
# [00:42] <mmc> 0:06.08 PROCESS-CRASH | %s | application crashed [%s]
# [00:42] <mmc> Crash dump filename: /home/mchew/mozilla-central/obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/_tests/xpcshell/netwerk/test/unit/72aeb5a4-4d5f-53df-4a2452d4-2f77fa3d.dmp
# [00:42] <catlee> philor: I did mention that as part of the original bug...
# [00:42] <mmc> but then the file doesn't exist
# [00:42] <Callek> philor: theres been a bit on file since the start for that enhancement iirc
# [00:42] <Callek> s/bit/bug/
# [00:42] <Callek> bah I can't type
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# [00:47] <Callek> ---unrelated --- this is an OMG y No win64 -- crash right [aka: OOM] https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-f925308a-ff15-4ed4-b7d4-1bc762130201
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# [00:48] <jrmuizel> nrc|notreallypayingattention: I ran with tiles
# [00:48] <jrmuizel> on android
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# [00:48] <jrmuizel> it looks like the low-resolution code isn't quite right
# [00:49] <jduell> bz: if we change an IDL just to add a new function, can we keep same UUID? May want to uplift it to aurora
# [00:49] <jrmuizel> low and hi res are drawing different things
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# [00:49] <jduell> bz: specificall this is bug 765934 which adds 'redirectTo(uri)' to nsIHttpChannel
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# [00:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ef8b1c93882 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 836838 - Avoid race condition in distribution initialization. r=bnicholson,mfinkle
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# [00:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f543b37a359 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 834681 - Add support for basic distribution modifications. r=mfinkle
# [00:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccf2e70a3e52 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 836517 - Lightweight theme support for distributions. r=mfinkle
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# [00:56] <tanvi> bz - is there a way to get document.open to do what window.open does
# [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfb1cc4ca87f - Blake Winton - Bug 345603 - Move "Clear Recent History" menu item from "Tools" menu to "History" menu; r=dao ui-r=limi
# [00:57] <tanvi> nevermind - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/document/src/nsHTMLDocument.cpp?mark=1385-1385,1391-1391#1384
# [00:57] <tanvi> thanks smaug
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# [00:57] <@smaug> np
# [00:57] <tanvi> smaug - but that means that its not a window.open issue, because that doesn't go through the code that is crashing
# [00:58] <tanvi> well, it does call open again actually
# [00:59] <tanvi> but the test case doesn't cause the error either - https://people.mozilla.com/~tvyas/mixeddocument7.html
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# [00:59] <@smaug> and now I finally managed to load the bug
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# [00:59] <@smaug> (still no bugmail though)
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# [01:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c29fe4384d8f - Myk Melez - bug 797613 - identify Fennec via MOZ_FENNEC var and use MOZ_B2G to simplify Webapps.js ifdefs; r=fabrice, khuey
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# [01:00] <tanvi> we do get an assertion failure though - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp#4077
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# [01:17] <NeilAway> so, anyone know what EAFNOSUPPORT is?
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# [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b9a168fc0b7 - Sid Stamm - Bug 779918 - disregard auth credentials in URLs when doing CSP policy checks. (r=imelven)
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# [01:32] <NeilAway> froydnj: actually the answer I was looking for was 102
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# [01:33] <NeilAway> froydnj: (vc9 doesn't define it)
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# [01:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2b7b7dac2ee2 - Robert Strong - Bug 836620 - Cleanup app binary copies used by app update xpcshell tests. r=bbondy, a=test-only
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# [01:58] <marco> anyone is having problems with virtual env? (building on ubuntu)
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# [02:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d26c537bd315 - Sean Stangl - Bug 832217 - Construct RegExpShared in the same compartment as the RegExpStatics. r=billm
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# [02:58] <ewong> re: ehsan's post on "The future of PGO on Windows", pardon my ignorance, but which graphs is he talking about?
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# [03:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7271e80ac418 - Sean Stangl - Backout Bug 837042 for mysterious compilation failures on TBPL.
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# [03:07] <Mook_as> ewong: graphs.mozilla.org?
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# [03:14] <ewong> so basically I just need to watch the graph and report when it hits > 1GB?
# [03:15] <@dbaron> sstangl, er, really, defined inline though it's not declared as inline
# [03:15] <@dbaron> sstangl, removing the "inline" in the .cpp file where the method is defined would probably fix the error; not sure if that's the right fix or not
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# [03:24] <rhelmer> ewong: catlee has a service that posts to one of the newsgroups when perf changes above or below some threshold (it uses the graphs.m.o DB), maybe it could be used to send alerts?
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# [03:24] <rhelmer> ewong: all the data graphs.m.o uses is via a JSON API too so can be polled
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# [03:41] <tanvi> when would you get WARNING: Subdocument container has no frame: file /Users/tvyas/dev/mozilla-central/layout/base/nsDocumentViewer.cpp, line 2393
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# [03:41] <tanvi> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsDocumentViewer.cpp#2393
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# [04:53] <darkowlzz> Can anyone tell me what does the sudden block in https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/BackgroundFileSaver.cpp#130 mean? It's not a functional block neither a class block or any conditional block. How does it gets executed?
# [04:55] <Mavericks> May be just for clarity
# [04:55] <fabrice> darkowlzz: it's to scope the lock
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# [04:56] <Mavericks> and that - above
# [04:56] <Mavericks> ok so not clarity
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# [04:57] <darkowlzz> fabrice: well, I am unaware of such C++ code. Can you get me a link where I can read about it? or tell me the term used for it, I will google it
# [04:58] <Mavericks> darkowlzz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_%28computer_science%29 or may be another specific in that context will help. looking for a mdn doc on this
# [04:58] <darkowlzz> I found something similar http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/general/33746/
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# [05:00] <darkowlzz> I understand it now
# [05:01] <darkowlzz> thanks Mavericks and fabrice :)
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# [05:05] <Mavericks> darkowlzz: and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Namespace/Mozilla/MutexAutoLock
# [05:05] <Mavericks> oh cool
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# [05:09] <darkowlzz> Mavericks: wow!! It's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot :D
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# [05:14] <@bz> Oooh, we're not vulnerable to http://openradar.appspot.com/13128709
# [05:15] <@bz> Rock on
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# [05:19] <Waldo> "let's not forget that Windows is a legacy platform that's only tier-1 because it happens to have some absurdly large proportion of our users"
# [05:20] * Waldo shakes his head, chuckles somewhat
# [05:21] <@bz> Waldo: zwol feels pretty strongly about open source in all its manifestations
# [05:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eef2d013520d - Robert Strong - Bug 837345 - Cleanup unused code that is no longer needed with NSIS 2.46. r=bbondy
# [05:22] <Waldo> bz: yeah; I get where he's coming from, it just seems a bit divorced from reality
# [05:22] <Waldo> without any more background, his opinions of that sort are likely ones I'd laugh off completely from someone I didn't know
# [05:23] <Waldo> all that said, yeah, clang/Windows funding seems like a good idea to me
# [05:23] <Waldo> not that I'm sure how I could effectively advocate that, or where, exactly
# [05:23] <Waldo> nor do I have time to do it, really
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# [05:25] <Waldo> would be nice to not have to worry about Windows PGO, tho
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# [05:31] <@bz> Waldo: yeah
# [05:32] <Waldo> I don't really like doing it because of random topcrashers, but when I have a patch that moves around commandline arguments and triggers a PGO bug, at that point I get a little sadder
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# [07:01] <Jesse> i'm amazed that Mossop_away's message on tree-management didn't get completely lost in the bot-generated noise. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/ZiZQ2iRpoDc
# [07:02] <Mossop_away> Me too!
# [07:02] <Mossop_away> The only rule of tree management is that we don't talk about tree management
# [07:03] <Mavericks> haha
# [07:06] <Jesse> Mossop_away: this could be the first change to mozhghooks/commit-message.py since it was added!
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# [07:52] <Jesse> evilpie: you might be interested in https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/ZiZQ2iRpoDc since you helped write the hook
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# [09:02] <dholbert> looks like vyang needs a backout
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# [09:03] <dholbert> for Mn / X failures
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# [09:28] <mike5w3c> I notice that even if a build fails, mach seems to still say, "Finished building. Built files are in ..."
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# [14:45] <darkowlzz> whimboo, ping!
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# [14:48] <marco> can I store a nsILocalFile in a pref?
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# [14:48] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
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# [14:50] <mjrosenb> what is the beta repo path?
# [14:50] <whimboo> darkowlzz: hi!
# [14:51] <Ms2ger> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/
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# [14:52] <darkowlzz> whimboo, hi
# [14:52] <darkowlzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837013
# [14:52] <mjrosenb> gah, I went through releases looking for 18, then couldn't find it, and stumbled around looking for beta.
# [14:53] <Ms2ger> whimboo, is your talk done already? :)
# [14:53] <whimboo> Ms2ger: no, not yet
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# [14:54] <darkowlzz> whimboo, is this bug about finding the nsTableFrame methods used in nsMathMLmtableFrame and removing 'virtual' keyword from nsTableFrame.h methods?
# [14:54] <whimboo> darkowlzz: if you have questions for this bug you might want to get in contact with dholbert
# [14:54] <whimboo> i have no knowledge in that area
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# [14:55] <darkowlzz> whoops!! wrong bug
# [14:55] <darkowlzz> sorry
# [14:55] <Ms2ger> darkowlzz, it about removing the virtual keyword from those that aren't overridden in nsMathMLmtableFrame
# [14:55] <darkowlzz> whimboo, this one https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835739
# [14:56] <darkowlzz> Ms2ger, just remove and submit for review :)
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# [14:56] <Ms2ger> Indeed so
# [14:56] <darkowlzz> whimboo, lib/toolbars.js doesn't exists right?
# [14:57] <whimboo> darkowlzz: it's a different repository.
# [14:57] <darkowlzz> I was unable to find it in mxr
# [14:57] <darkowlzz> oh!
# [14:57] <whimboo> darkowlzz: you would have to look out for http://hg.mozilla.org/qa/mozmill-tests/
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# [14:57] <whimboo> i would appreciate if we could move to #automation for further discussion
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# [14:58] <darkowlzz> whimboo, sure
# [14:58] <whimboo> darkowlzz: but i would appreciate if we can do it on monday
# [14:58] <whimboo> i'm on a conference right now
# [14:59] <darkowlzz> whimboo, np, I will wait or ask other at #automation
# [14:59] <whimboo> sounds good
# [14:59] <whimboo> or make a comment in the bug
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# [15:00] <darkowlzz> btw which conference were you and Ms2ger talking about?
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# [15:00] <darkowlzz> okay, good luck :)
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# [15:01] <whimboo> darkowlzz: fosdem
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# [15:01] <Ms2ger> glandium, any slides online?
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# [15:02] <hsivonen> Whoa. Ms2ger seen at a FOSDEM ip address
# [15:02] <Ms2ger> I'm sitting right next to tbsaunde, if you want to find me ;)
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# [15:05] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: I'm in a different building right now. I'll head back to building U later.
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# [15:06] <whimboo> huh
# [15:06] <whimboo> interesting
# [15:06] <whimboo> Ms2ger is around? :)
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# [15:07] <Ms2ger> I'm afraid it would be hard to deny that at this point :)
# [15:07] <whimboo> lol... but most likely we will never face you :/
# [15:08] <Ms2ger> whimboo, where are you? :)
# [15:08] <whimboo> Ms2ger: moz dev room
# [15:08] <padenot> me too, where at?
# [15:08] <whimboo> 9th row ... right next to the power connectors :)
# [15:09] <Ms2ger> From what side did you count? :)
# [15:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/be76182b91a6 - Randell Jesup - Bug 788185: add a/v sync to Audio/Video Conduits r=derf
# [15:09] <padenot> I'm at the last row fwiw
# [15:09] <whimboo> Ms2ger: from the front
# [15:10] <Ms2ger> That's not me, then :)
# [15:10] <Ms2ger> Oh, wait, that's where you are
# [15:11] <whimboo> right, cause we never seen you :)
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# [15:11] * Ms2ger can't read all that well :)
# [15:11] * Ms2ger should also pay attention to glandium
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# [15:18] <mounir> Ms2ger: tell him to use the arrow keys ;)
# [15:18] <Ms2ger> whimboo, you tell him, you're closer :)
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# [15:19] <whimboo> Ms2ger: heh so you are behind me and padenot. thanks for the hint
# [15:19] <whimboo> i mean between
# [15:19] <Ms2ger> Try looking behind you :)
# [15:19] <padenot> finding Ms2ger by bisection
# [15:19] <whimboo> damn. i should not start laughing now
# [15:19] <Ms2ger> As long as you don't bisect me...
# [15:20] <mounir> Ms2ger: you are not tarek :)
# [15:20] <Ms2ger> I'm sorry?
# [15:20] <whimboo> padenot: please check who of the guys in front of you are using irc :)
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# [15:21] <padenot> hmm
# [15:22] <Ms2ger> Found anyone?
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# [15:22] <padenot> I've got very bad sight
# [15:23] <Ms2ger> padenot, you shouldn't need to see very far :)
# [15:23] <padenot> ha, found him
# [15:23] <Ms2ger> And there we go :)
# [15:23] <padenot> A myth collapses
# [15:24] <jesup> he probably has a stooge in the room relaying for him... ;-)
# [15:24] * whimboo wants to come to the back too
# [15:24] <whimboo> jesup: so you say he would fool us?
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# [15:25] <jesup> never!
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# [15:31] <NeilAway> smaug: do you know where the definition of these methods is: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/dom/workers/XMLHttpRequest.cpp#1414
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# [15:35] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, in the event codegen
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# [15:36] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ah yes, DXR finds it
# [15:37] <NeilAway> oh wait, that was the idl
# [15:37] * NeilAway keeps scrolling
# [15:37] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ok, GeneratedEvents.cpp
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# [15:39] <Ms2ger> You'd think a conference this size would have figured out stable IRC connections by now
# [15:39] <khuey> its been working ok for me
# [15:39] <padenot> wfm
# [15:39] <khuey> bandwidth is terrible, of course
# [15:45] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: the connection from p.m.o to the irc server is just fine ;)
# [15:45] <khuey> indeed
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# [15:48] <Ms2ger> It's not terribly good for me ;
# [15:48] <Ms2ger> )
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# [15:55] <NeilAway> marco: you can store one in a complex pref
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# [15:57] <@smaug> khuey: bandwidth still better than hotel's wifi
# [15:58] <@smaug> last night it took about 5 minutes to load a bugzilla page
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# [16:02] <marco> NeilAway: thank you, I've found some examples. Storing an nsILocalFile in a complex pref is just like storing a string, right? I mean, you'll store the path, right?
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# [16:03] <khuey> smaug: you should have stayed at my hotel
# [16:03] <marco> (I'd like to store a path as a nsISupportsString instead of a nsILocalFile, because I want to simplify some code)
# [16:04] <khuey> much better
# [16:05] <NeilAway> marco: well, you can just pass the nsILocalFile directly, no reason to get the path manually
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# [16:23] <marco> NeilAway: to simplify the code, I haven't the nsILocalFile anymore, I've just a path
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# [16:24] <Ms2ger> Prefixes \o/
# [16:24] <NeilAway> marco: well, in that case why did you ask about an nsILocalFile :-P
# [16:25] <marco> NeilAway: I wanted to know if I can save a nsISupportsString instead of a nsILocalFile, without breaking compatibility :)
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# [16:26] <marco> (yes, I should've asked the question more directly :P)
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# [16:32] <avih> something with (at least) css got broken on nightly (windows). working: 2013-01-30-03-09, broken: 2013-01-31-03-10. how can i get the changeset range between those?
# [16:33] <avih> ehsan: ^ ?
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# [16:34] <marco> gps: ping
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# [16:35] <hsivonen> oh well. now I'm in the Firefox room but Ms2ger is no longer on IRC
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# [16:40] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, now I am :)
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# [16:42] <@smaug> hsivonen: ping
# [16:43] <@smaug> hsivonen: so how familiar are you with http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditUtils.cpp#615
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# [16:52] <marco> is there a way not to use the in-tree virtualenv?
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> Why?
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# [16:57] <avih> Ms2ger: how can i get the cset range between 2 nightly builds?
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# [16:57] <avih> something got broken between 2013-01-30 and 2013-01-31
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> avih, where did you get those builds?
# [16:57] <avih> nightly ftp server
# [16:58] <avih> Ms2ger: specifically: working: 2013-01-30-03-09, broken: 2013-01-31-03-10
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> There should be a file with the changeset IDs next to them
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> Can you find those for me?
# [16:58] <avih> hmm.. looked for one but didn't see. inside the build folder?
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> smaug, file bugs ;)
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# [16:58] <@smaug> Ms2ger: what am I missing with SetterThrows?
# [16:58] <marco> Ms2ger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=805127#c9
# [16:59] <@smaug> Ms2ger: setting such attribute shouldn't throw
# [16:59] <Ms2ger> smaug, we're definitely not consistent about that :)
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# [16:59] <@smaug> I think it is a bug if we throw
# [17:00] <@smaug> let's see if I can find SetterThrows in odd places...
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# [17:00] <Ms2ger> Even if we'd throw from setAttribute?
# [17:00] <avih> Ms2ger: ah, it's at firefox-21.0a1.en-US.win32.txt . thanks.
# [17:00] <Ms2ger> np
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# [17:04] <yury> after getting "approval-mozilla-aurora+" for a patch, shall I set any other attributes or it will be checked-in automagically?
# [17:05] <hsivonen> smaug: not familiar
# [17:05] <NeilAway> marco: not any more
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# [17:05] <NeilAway> yury: checkin-needed keyword
# [17:06] <NeilAway> yury: also use the status whiteboard to clarify what needs to be checked in
# [17:06] <@smaug> Ms2ger: well, setAttribute may throw is the attr name isn't valid, which doesn't apply here
# [17:06] <yury> NeilAway: thanks
# [17:06] <marco> NeilAway: do you mean I can't?
# [17:06] <@smaug> Ms2ger: other case is that when we have > 1023 attributes
# [17:07] <@smaug> not sure what we should do in that case
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# [17:07] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I'll file a bug
# [17:07] <NeilAway> marco: correct
# [17:07] <Ms2ger> Great, thanks :)
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# [17:09] <marco> NeilAway: ok, thanks
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# [17:16] <avih> Ms2ger: when i look locally on csets, they also have a revision number (incremental number). is this a local-only value which holds the order at which csets were applied to my local copy?
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# [17:17] <Ms2ger> avih, correct
# [17:17] <avih> k, thx.
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# [17:29] <Ms2ger> Sounds like the PDF spec really is no better than all the other specs we implement
# [17:30] <yury> heh
# [17:31] <yury> Ms2ger: listening bdahl?
# [17:31] <avih> Ms2ger: how should i file a bug specific to a cset range?
# [17:31] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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# [17:32] <avih> should i just title it normally, and add the range at the description?
# [17:32] <Ms2ger> avih, as you would normally do, but mention the changesets, I guess
# [17:32] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [17:32] <avih> k.
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# [17:57] <Ms2ger> humph, did you try NS_IMPL_NS_NEW_HTML_ELEMENT? There should be template magic to make it work
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# [18:03] <humph> Ms2ger: yeah, it barfs when I lack ns*
# [18:03] <humph> I can add it easily, but it seemed like a good time to break with the past :)
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> It shouldn't
# [18:03] <humph> I'll tray again and post build output later
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# [18:03] <Ms2ger> Thanks
# [18:03] <humph> try*
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# [18:04] <Optimizer> why did my downloads button move to toolbar automatically :(
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# [18:05] <Optimizer> I think trying out some persona did this
# [18:05] <Optimizer> (or theme so as to say now)
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# [18:34] <@smaug> scroll http://www.bonsoirclara.com/en/menu-en . Does the background get painted properly ?
# [18:35] <@smaug> (it doesn't on my linux laptop)
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# [18:42] <Optimizer> smaug: you are nto referring to the grey background going up as you scroll down ?
# [18:43] <@smaug> Optimizer: I'm referring to the background image not being repainted properly
# [18:43] <@smaug> I think I've seen other bg image problems too today
# [18:44] <Optimizer> for me, the background image is fixed, ...
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# [18:45] <Optimizer> and it paints properly
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# [18:47] <@smaug> Optimizer: it is fixed, but the bottom part of it gets scrolled up, and once there is next (full?) repaint, the painting is ok again
# [18:47] <@smaug> (and the hotel network is unstable again)
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# [18:50] <romaxa> smaug: ping
# [18:51] <romaxa> smaug: I'm thinking about makeing simple proto of pointerevents spec, IIUC pointer events are close to mouse events
# [18:52] <@smaug> romaxa: there is a bug open
# [18:52] <romaxa> smaug: I found that before we had MOZTOUCH events derived from mouse events http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2afbf5440fc8#l11.49
# [18:53] <Optimizer> holy sh*t that mail needs a TLDR
# [18:53] <@smaug> so feel free to
# [18:53] <romaxa> smaug: but current touchevents are events derived from DOMUIEvent
# [18:53] <@smaug> romaxa: yes, the old MozTouchEvents were closer to pointer events than touch events
# [18:54] <@smaug> romaxa: pointer events don't have the odd touch lists
# [18:54] <romaxa> smaug: It feels like I should take mozTouchEvents approach and start with that
# [18:54] <@smaug> something like that
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# [18:54] <romaxa> smaug: ok
# [18:54] <@smaug> though we need to support pointer events also on non-touch devices
# [18:54] <@smaug> they are after all pointer events :)
# [18:55] <@smaug> romaxa: let Matt know that you're doing this
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# [19:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13654177590a - Jonathan Watt - Bug 835883 - Give the -moz-orient property an 'auto' value, and make that its initial value. r=dholbert.
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# [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2962a3ff97da - Ehsan Akhgari - Merge mozilla-central into mozilla-inbound
# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b546bd987ed4 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 794162 - Mach command to generate a .clang_complete file; r=ehsan
# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e7c92906a79 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
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# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be76182b91a6 - Randell Jesup - Bug 788185: add a/v sync to Audio/Video Conduits r=derf
# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95bec0e5a600 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 836877 - mach now errors if executed with Python 3; r=ted
# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ffbc0f69476 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ec2-661 - a=blocklist-update
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# [19:58] <philor> does b2g do plugins?
# [19:58] <ingshtrom> anyone use SmartGitHg as their GUI for version control?
# [19:59] <Optimizer> philor: you mean allow installing plugins/addons ?
# [20:00] <philor> Optimizer: I mean run plugins like Flash and Java, the sort we blocklist, with a blocklist we update on other trees but don't update on b2g*
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# [20:00] <Optimizer> it does not have a concept of plugin or addons
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# [20:00] <Optimizer> last i know of.
# [20:00] <Optimizer> everything is html
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# [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4466d3ff8ada - Andres Hernandez - Bug 822284 - Intermittent browser_privatebrowsing_cookieacceptdialog.js, browser_privatebrowsing_crh.js; r=ehsan
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# [20:18] <jcranmer> philor: ping
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# [20:18] <philor> jcranmer: pong
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# [20:19] <jcranmer> philor: it looks to me like several of the TB builders are showing perma-bustage; do you know where I should be filing a bug about that?
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# [20:20] <philor> jcranmer: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/
# [20:21] <jcranmer> philor: tyvm
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# [20:22] <philor> jcranmer: set, if any of the ones on your push hit it, just retrigger them
# [20:22] <jcranmer> ah, the clobberer link is in tbpl
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# [20:24] <philor> heh, sort of broken how there's a link to the m-c pushlog down below the clobberer link, though
# [20:26] <Optimizer> smaug: yes there are issues : see this too :
# [20:26] <Optimizer> http://www.brandonsavage.net/successfully-selling-your-own-products/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=successfully-selling-your-own-products
# [20:26] <Optimizer> ah hes gone ..
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# [20:51] <Ms2ger> http://i.qkme.me/3stjiw.jpg
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# [23:36] <dholbert> did some mozilla servers just fall off of the internet & then come back online, or something?
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# [23:38] <dholbert> I guess
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# [23:39] <dholbert> I noticed that bugzilla was having a hard time loading, so I opened my IRC client, only to find out that my znc bouncer was disconnected :P
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# [23:39] <dholbert> (bugzilla seems to have loaded now, though)
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# [23:41] <philor> I particularly enjoyed the combination of nickserv not being around, but channels requiring a registered nick to join
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# [23:42] <WeirdAl> uh, how many channels do you need to be in?
# [23:42] <philor> less how many, and more how often my client attempts to rejoin them and gets rebuffed
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# [23:45] <dholbert> nice
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# [23:50] <smaug> woohoo, is it possible that network is even slower than yesterday
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# [23:53] <@smaug> gandalf: does l20n observe mutations somehow ?
# [23:53] <@smaug> mutations to dom
# [23:54] * @smaug could be asking something silly since he doesn't know what all l20n covers
# [23:54] <gandalf> smaug: not yet. we do want to add mutation observers, but that's for 1.1
# [23:54] <@smaug> ok
# [23:55] <@smaug> gandalf: just wondering if MutationObserver API should be improved somehow
# [23:56] <gandalf> smaug: well, we consider using it for localizing initial HTML and I don't think it does a really good job there
# [23:56] <@smaug> I mean, are there some cases in l20n which MO can't take care of easily
# [23:56] <Callek> ummm wow http://www.iclarified.com/27181/typing-file-will-crash-almost-any-mac-application?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
# [23:56] <@smaug> initial DOM...
# [23:56] <gandalf> I mean, we wanted to plug MO before DOMContentLoaded
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# [23:56] <@smaug> right
# [23:56] <@smaug> yes, there is a bug open
# [23:56] <gandalf> and localize chunks of DOM as they were injected into the document
# [23:57] <@smaug> oh
# [23:57] <@smaug> that won't happen
# [23:57] <gandalf> why not?
# [23:57] <@smaug> but the idea is to call the callback before other scripts run
# [23:57] <@smaug> so that if there is <script> in the page, all the mutations are notified before the script runs
# [23:57] <gandalf> yeah
# [23:58] <@smaug> that should be enough, right?
# [23:58] <gandalf> but consider this
# [23:58] <gandalf> we have a HTML document
# [23:58] <gandalf> and we need to localize it
# [23:58] <gandalf> during startuo
# [23:58] <gandalf> startup
# [23:59] <gandalf> we currently do this on client side (eventually we will switch to native gecko parser, but now we do this on client side)
# [23:59] <gandalf> so we have to plug into document startup
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# [23:59] <gandalf> and we initialize inline in <script>
# [23:59] <gandalf> and we want to react to DOM either on DOMCOntentLoaded
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