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# [00:01] <jimm> ted: nm, the download was still going
# [00:02] <dholbert> Anyone know why I might get a scary yellow exclamation-point sign when viewing https://blog.mozilla.org ? ( http://i.imgur.com/8r2AehO.png )
# [00:02] <dholbert> I see it in my normal profile, but not in a fresh profile
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# [00:02] <dholbert> but if I copy key3.db from normal profile --> fresh profile, then I see it in the otherwise-fresh-profile, too
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# [00:04] <Mook_as> dholbert: what cert is it using?
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# [00:09] <dholbert> Mook_as, a valid one, for blog.mozilla.org
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# [00:11] <dholbert> Mook_as, looks like http://i.imgur.com/hE2I1IY.png , FWIW. (I do get a mixed-content warning in the site info window, but I get that in a fresh no-yellow-exclamation-point-sign profile, too)
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# [00:12] <@gavin> dholbert: probably worth filing a bug, CCing tanvi/bsmith?
# [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66cb15452ab9 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 830538 - Make 'make mochiest-plain' work for b2g desktop builds, r=ted
# [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f22252f3041f - Terrence Cole - Bug 837845 - Manually backout the largest memory users from bug 798624; r=Waldo a=akeybl
# [00:12] <dholbert> gavin, will do, after I investigate a bit more
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# [00:13] <dholbert> OK, it looks like I get the exclamation point after I've installed the mozilla root CA ( https://www.mozilla.org/certs/mozilla-root.crt )
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# [00:14] <dholbert> might be wrong about that actually, just it it in a brand-spankin-new profile too. anyway, I'll file a bug & post more there
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# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af8e5720ccf2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 835954 - Update pdf.js to version 0.7.180. r=yury
# [00:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f82f74de11f - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 813253 - URL.createobjectURL in WebWorker. r=bent
# [00:22] <@smaug> ++ochameau
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# [00:23] <dholbert> (I think my yellow-sign might just be the 'mixed content' indicator. Not sure why I wasn't seeing it reliably before, but it seems to be showing up all the time at blog.m.o now, even in fresh profiles)
# [00:23] <dholbert> (so: false alarm, probably)
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# [00:25] <@gavin> dholbert: oh, yeah, it is
# [00:25] <@gavin> that's why I suggested tanvi/bsmith - they've been working on the mixed content stuff
# [00:25] <@gavin> that I mentioned in today's devmeeting
# [00:25] <@gavin> and that landed relatively recently
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# [00:26] <reuben> what's the easiest way to import a mq patch to a git repo?
# [00:26] <dholbert> ah, ok
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# [00:27] <reuben> bonus points if it uses a merge tool instead of rejects
# [00:28] <jhammel> i would use `git import` although that has issues with adding/removing files iirc
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# [00:33] <reuben> |git import| doesn't seem to be a valid command here
# [00:33] <reuben> but apparently |git apply| has a -3 parameter to do 3-way merges
# [00:33] <catlee> git apply
# [00:34] <jhammel> yeah, sorry, git apply is what i am thinking of
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# [00:37] <RyanVM> philor: ping
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# [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f6b848a136c - Wes Kocher - Update Jetpack tests running in Firefox to pick up bug 831933's fixes r=me
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# [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dff079686e0b - Jeff Walden - Bug 837773 - Move js/src/jsval.h to js/public/Value.h. r=jorendorff
# [00:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43a5c9890c22 - Jeff Walden - Bug 837773 - Add a PropertyKey.h header. r=jorendorff
# [00:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbc1e196ca87 - Jeff Walden - Bug 837773 - Organize jsapi.h's #includes. r=jorendorff
# [00:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f1ecab23f6f - Jeff Walden - Bug 837773 - Move JS::Anchor into js/public/Anchor.h, necessary to properly make Value.h an independent header. r=jorendorff
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# [00:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06fe741ec953 - Jeff Walden - Bug 837773 - Change private uint32_t Values to use the int32_t representation, for simplicity. r=luke
# [00:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f13e3cac0c1b - Jeff Walden - Bug 837773 - Move JS::Value into Value.h. r=jorendorff
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# [00:44] <philor> RyanVM: pong
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# [00:45] <RyanVM> philor: http://www.ryanvm.net/files/tegra115.jpg - need I say more?
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# [00:49] <tanvi> smaug: will update the patch with your comments and push to try shortly
# [00:49] <@smaug> k
# [00:50] <philor> RyanVM: hey, that's not a .gif! I was waiting for the walls to close and crush it, or a giant laser beam to burn a hole through the board
# [00:51] <RyanVM> but yeah, all the other tegras i saw were at least in one piece :)
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# [00:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7f93cfc074e - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 837981 - Remove GetDeflatedStringLength(). r=terrence.
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# [01:01] <RyanVM> philor: not even a pity laugh? :(
# [01:02] <NeilAway> njn: hmm, perhaps he should have used <xmp> instead? (if that still works)
# [01:02] <jhammel> RyanVM: oh, i thought that was your art sculpture
# [01:02] <RyanVM> jhammel: just a memento from my trip to haxxor
# [01:02] <jhammel> i was busy analyzing what that said about modern man and their dependence on technologies they no longer understand
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# [01:04] <philor> RyanVM: pity? for tegra-115? NEVER!
# [01:05] <RyanVM> philor: i seriously lolled when I was looking through the shoeboxes for it and eventually found it
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# [01:05] <RyanVM> it even looks like the black sheep
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# [01:09] <philor> Waldo: bustage
# [01:10] <Waldo> philor: looking, sec
# [01:10] <Waldo> this may be me being dumb
# [01:10] <Waldo> ...and it is, patch shortly
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# [01:12] <philor> RyanVM: you know the part in every horror movie, where the bad guy looks dead and broken, and everyone's happy, and then he comes back to life? that thing's got a malevolent look in its LED still
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# [01:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ba2e7dc2951 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 777639 - Part 3: Add ability to delete downloaded files. r=mfinkle
# [01:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/997812c6023d - Brian Nicholson - Bug 777639 - Part 2: Move sanitize.js to Sanitizer.jsm. r=mfinkle
# [01:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27d51d9f7495 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 777639 - Part 4: Listen for removed downloads in about:downloads. r=wesj
# [01:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ffeac43b95e - Brian Nicholson - Bug 777639 - Part 1: Remove unused code from Sanitizer. r=mfinkle
# [01:13] <Waldo> ack is running right now to make sure I found all the uses before I push the fix
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# [01:15] <philor> CLOSED TREE
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# [01:16] <RyanVM> philor: not the first time today
# [01:16] <RyanVM> not even the second
# [01:17] <philor> well, it *is* a weekday :|
# [01:17] <RyanVM> heh
# [01:18] <Waldo> pushing fix for the bustage now
# [01:18] <jhammel> it is the "green light go, red light stop" approach to development
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# [01:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a9887e1f55e - Jeff Walden - Fix up a few lingering references to jsval.h. Followup to bug 837773, r=bustage in a CLOSED TREE
# [01:19] <Waldo> "Tuesday. This is one of the peculiarly dangerous days to push to inbound. The others are Friday, Monday, Sunday, Thursday, Wednesday, and Saturday."
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# [01:19] <jhammel> Waldo++
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# [01:20] <jhammel> Don't forget that February is an especially dangerous month to push too. All the other dangerous months either have 30 or 31 days.
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# [01:22] <daleharvey> ping ted, any chance you could take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826058 ?
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# [01:29] <Waldo> RyanVM: should we consider both starring subsequent reds, or should one of us not do so? :-)
# [01:29] <RyanVM> Waldo, I'm kind of popping in and out intermittently at this point
# [01:29] <RyanVM> so feel free to take the point on starring them
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# [01:30] <Waldo> RyanVM: k, I'll keep starring
# [01:30] * RyanVM is still working on this whole "doing this full-time and therefore not spending all of his free time on it" thing
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# [01:31] <Waldo> :-)
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# [01:31] <Jesse> gkw: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2117796
# [01:31] <Jesse> mozboot "Exception: Could not determine Clang version."
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# [01:40] <Callek|Buildduty> RyanVM: yea its hard to transition from "free time doing x, real time getting paid for something else" --> "full time getting paid for x, time doing y phased out.... now what do I do with my free time"
# [01:40] <Callek|Buildduty> I'm still (sorta) going through that a bit, a yearish after I got hired
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# [01:42] <jhammel> 3 years in...still adjusting ;)
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# [01:43] <Waldo> I think I've gotten sufficiently better about it on weekends, mostly from having plans then pretty regularly
# [01:43] <Waldo> weekdays probably go later than they should, more often than they should, tho
# [01:43] <Waldo> absent other firm plans for the time
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# [01:46] <bnicholson> has someone already noticed the beta orange?
# [01:46] <Waldo> terrence: ^ ?
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# [01:47] <philor> so, these b2g reftest failures, where one or the other is missing what looks like a new-style Mac scrollbar - is that a scrollbar, and where do I file "b2g reftests randomly do or don't have scrollbars"?
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# [01:48] <dholbert> philor, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Boot2Gecko&component=General is a reasonable place to start
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# [01:48] <dholbert> philor, sample log?
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# [01:49] <dholbert> philor, nevermind, saw one
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# [01:50] <philor> dholbert: Hello Kitty is either the most common, or the most memorable, not sure which
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# [01:50] <dholbert> philor, haha. that is not the one that I saw :)
# [01:51] <philor> dholbert: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=2e70586576b9
# [01:51] <marco> what's the component for FHR bugs?
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# [01:52] <marco> who can I cc on a FHR bug?
# [01:52] <dholbert> philor, I was expecting an actual picture of Hello Kitty
# [01:53] <philor> would have been better, indeed
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# [02:07] <Waldo> fix fix r=fix
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# [02:19] <vlad> Callek|Buildduty: i'm probably not the right person, but did you file it?
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# [02:20] <Callek|Buildduty> vlad: not yet, know any candidates to make sure it is reproduceable outside of just me, at the least before I file, and/or anyone who might know
# [02:20] <Callek|Buildduty> vlad: symptom is a "blank artifact/region until scrolling stops"
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# [02:20] <Callek|Buildduty> such as a small rectangle on my display, that is all white and clips actual text flows
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# [02:27] <vlad> Callek|Buildduty: not offhand; easiest thing is to file it, if someone sees a dup they'll mark it
# [02:27] <Callek|Buildduty> kk thanks
# [02:28] <Callek|Buildduty> any recommendation on which of the Core:: components it best belongs in
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# [03:10] <decoder> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&jobname=asan
# [03:10] <decoder> greeeen
# [03:10] <decoder> ^^
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# [03:27] <Waldo> decoder: that's a challenge, right?
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# [03:31] <philor> a challenge check-crypto.js was willing to meet, on linux64 :(
# [03:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2716ae058067 - Chris Jones - Bug 835584: Precompile forms.js and preload UserAgentOverrides.jsm. r=fabrice
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# [03:35] <decoder> Waldo: lol
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# [03:37] <Srinath> I've a query with building firefox.
# [03:37] <Srinath> Last night I synced to the latest source from mozilla central and ran ./mach build
# [03:38] <Srinath> It performed a full build.
# [03:38] <Srinath> the build output showed close to about 100 steps being performed.
# [03:39] <Srinath> after a while (15-30 mins or so) I ran ./mach build again
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# [03:39] <Srinath> it just showed about 10 steps being performed.
# [03:39] <Srinath> today morning I synced the source again.
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# [03:39] <Srinath> ./mach build ran upto 100 steps.
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# [03:40] <Srinath> by steps what I mean is the 0.XX.X .... 1.XX.X .... 88.XX.X... 99.XX.X
# [03:40] <Srinath> output that I observe while the build is running.
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# [03:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38218fd7cdaf - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 838001 IME management code should use root widget instead of the nearest widget of the PresContext r=smaug
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# [03:55] <vasi> I have a patch in bugzilla which was marked review+ and ui-review+, but now it doesn't apply cleanly to HEAD.
# [03:55] <vasi> Is there a way for me to upload the new patch, without losing the review flags?
# [03:55] <vasi> (changes needed are very, very minor)
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# [03:56] <seth> vasi: just don't worry about the flags; it's OK
# [03:56] <Unfocused> vasi: don't worry about it - just upload, and in the comment say you're carrying forward the r+/ui-r+ for that reason
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# [03:57] <vasi> thanks, will do :)
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# [03:59] <dustin> so, what's a quick way in Linux to verify that X11 is configured in such a way that Firefox will use the GPU?
# [03:59] <dustin> better if it doesn't require running Firefox, but that's OK
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# [04:01] <rnewman> anyone know if `date +"%s"` is portable across all platforms we support? (gps?)
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# [04:02] <vasi> rnewman, presumably not Windows?
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# [04:02] <rnewman> vasi: well, we run `date` in configure
# [04:02] <dustin> i assume you mean within mozillabuild
# [04:03] <vasi> oh, at build time, ok :)
# [04:03] <rnewman> aye
# [04:03] <rnewman> I'm looking to do something like MOZ_DEB_TIMESTAMP
# [04:03] <rnewman> but a Unix timestamp, not a date string
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# [04:04] <rnewman> I know %s isn't posix, but...
# [04:05] <mbrubeck> rnewman: in the Android build stuff I think we shell out to a python script for a date string...
# [04:06] <rnewman> mbrubeck: that is relevant to my interests; please subscribe me to your newsletter!
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# [04:06] <rnewman> thanks
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# [04:07] <vasi> dustin, i think the check for acceleration support is in in nsBaseWidget.cpp
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# [04:08] <Srinath> can anyone pl review my question and let me know it I'm observing anything weird.
# [04:08] <vasi> i guess you'll have to follow some trails from there, i'll see if i can help?but not my area of expertise :/
# [04:08] <gps> rnewman: python -c 'import time; print(int(time.time()))'
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# [04:09] <dustin> vasi: that could be a long trail for me :)
# [04:09] <mbrubeck> rnewman: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/embedding/android/Makefile.in#51
# [04:09] <mbrubeck> which runs http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/xre/make-platformini.py#20
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# [04:10] <vasi> dustin: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/xpwidgets/GfxInfoX11.cpp
# [04:10] <mbrubeck> so if date +"%s" isn't an option for some reason, you could extend that script
# [04:10] <vasi> look for the LAYERS-related stuff, i guess?
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# [04:12] <dustin> vasi: looks like installing Firefox and looking at "about:support" was what I wanted
# [04:12] <dustin> I don't really have a way to get useful data out of the source code :)
# [04:12] <vasi> dustin, oh i thought you wanted to figure it out without installing firefox
# [04:12] <vasi> sorry!
# [04:12] <dustin> no, no problem
# [04:12] <rnewman> mbrubeck: you are the best, thank you
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# [04:12] <dustin> if there was a "xinfo" or something like that, that was what I was looking for
# [04:12] <dustin> glxinfo doesn't seem to give hardware info
# [04:13] <dustin> anywaym, problem solved, thanks!
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# [04:13] <vasi> oh cool, there's actually a "glxtest"
# [04:13] <vasi> which firefox runs separately to help it figure out what to do
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# [05:29] <dholbert> Just ran across some code that seems a bit fishy... If I declare a nsMargin on the stack, and return it directly (i.e. my function returns type nsMargin), and then the client code captures that in a reference, is that bad? Seems like we'd have a reference to something ephemeral
# [05:29] <dholbert> Here's a more concrete simplified testcase: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2118224
# [05:30] <dholbert> s/testcase/example/
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# [05:35] <markh> I think that's OK - that the compiler will create a temp nsMargin
# [05:35] <markh> although it's certainly seems unnecessary that a reference is used
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# [06:09] <dholbert> markh, turns out it's legit. C++ standard says to prolong the lifetime of the temporary variable returned by DoStuff() in this situation
# [06:09] <dholbert> http://herbsutter.com/2008/01/01/gotw-88-a-candidate-for-the-most-important-const/ talks about this -- I've heard of it before but had forgotten about it
# [06:10] <dholbert> snippet: "Normally, a temporary object lasts only until the end of the full expression in which it appears. However, C++ deliberately specifies that binding a temporary object to a reference to const on the stack lengthens the lifetime of the temporary to the lifetime of the reference itself"
# [06:10] <markh> dholbert: thanks for confirming - I *thought* that was the case, but my c++ is a little rusty and there are lots of smart people here I can embarrass myself in front of ;)
# [06:10] <dholbert> markh, you're telling me -- I just filed an invalid bug! :)
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# [06:10] <markh> doh!
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# [07:04] <ewong> gps ping
# [07:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/62edd3b84353 - Dao Gottwald - Bug 825035 - Blocklisted click-to-play notification only fades in/out once per window per session. r=jaws a=akeybl
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# [07:14] <ewong> gps : re: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/8ac096b24cb0/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/test/test_mozconfig.py#l217 test_read_new_variables() assumes CC and CXX aren't already in the env, right?
# [07:15] <gps> ewong: yup
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# [07:16] <gps> we've already had to fix this test once before. if it is failing for you, file a bug and do something like https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/15d99c7eb660
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# [07:16] <ewong> gps so what if both CC/CXX are in the environment already? the result['env']['added'] would be {} as the CC and CXX are added to the modified dict?
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# [07:17] <ewong> gps I've filed bug 838463
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# [07:18] <gps> ewong: things in python/mozbuild are core :: build config
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# [07:18] <ewong> gps oh. ok. reason why I dunno is in m-c, it's not orange.. but in seamonkey it is..
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# [07:19] <ewong> gps i.e. http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=SeaMonkey/1360100272.1360104484.14243.gz&fulltext=1#err0
# [07:19] <gps> most weird
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# [07:20] <gps> well, it's a trivial patch. code it up and I'll r+ tonight
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# [07:21] <ewong> gps so I basically clear the CC/CXX environment variables before doing http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/8ac096b24cb0/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/test/test_mozconfig.py#l224 ?
# [07:21] <ewong> I'm not familiar with the logic.. just the first time I've seen this file..
# [07:22] <ewong> not sure if what I'm proposing is 'ok'.. sounds very hackish..
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# [07:22] <gps> ewong: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/15d99c7eb660 but add CC and CXX
# [07:23] <ewong> ahh ok
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# [07:23] <gps> the logic to restore the environment variables is already there. you just need to clear CC and CXX before the test
# [07:23] <ewong> gps right..
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# [08:53] <gps> my body is saying it's time to sleep. sadly this means walking away from my half-complete m-c merge push. I see no indications it's failing. if there are any troubles, it's likely on the last 2-3 commits. back out what you need to
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# [10:58] <edmorley> ewong, jgilbert: correct (though a cursory glance at tbpl to make sure that it's not all red is generally appreciated too :-))
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# [10:59] <ewong> edmorley, jgilbert thanks! I think on the safe side, I pushed to try.. while it's only a 2 line patch to test_mozconfig.py, it's better I did a try
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# [11:00] <edmorley> ewong: I notice you've used -p all - u all
# [11:00] <edmorley> this uses something like 200 compute hours per push fwiw
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# [11:00] <ewong> edmorley: and I pushed an empty patch :( :(
# [11:01] <ewong> edmorley: what should I do?
# [11:01] <jgilbert> cancelling try runs is easy, though
# [11:01] <ewong> cancel all the jobs?
# [11:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbdb0c716752 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 830992 part 2. Switch DOMTransaction to WebIDL codegen. r=wchen,peterv
# [11:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85e3ebb56fb3 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 836822. Convert MathML elements to WebIDL. r=peterv
# [11:01] <edmorley> ewong: which bug is it?
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# [11:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88601eca5f69 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 836920. Move dom::Optional<> and dom::Sequence to BindingDeclarations.h so using dictionaries in interfaces whose name comes before 'PrimitiveConversions'
# [11:01] <ewong> edmorley: bug 838463
# [11:01] <firebot> alphabetically does not break. r=peterv
# [11:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8bfa0b091b5 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 830992 part 1. Make it possible to pass CallbackObject& as the thisObj for callback functions. r=peterv
# [11:01] <ewong> so should I just cancel all the jobs now?
# [11:01] <jgilbert> ewong, go to https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try , mouse-over your push, and hit the x button
# [11:02] <jgilbert> yeah
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# [11:02] <edmorley> ewong: yeah, for your try run, hover over the push and then use the red cancel button that appears to the left
# [11:02] <ewong> ok.. cancelled
# [11:02] * ewong facepalms.
# [11:02] <edmorley> ewong: if you push to try again, I'd suggest using -p linux64 -u none (since this is make check, so no need for any unit tests)
# [11:03] <ewong> edmorley: ok. thanks!
# [11:03] <edmorley> that try syntax will test everything you need, but reduce compute time from 200 hours to ~1 hr
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# [11:05] <nikhil> annevk: https://bugzil.la/822712
# [11:06] <ewong> edmorley: i.e. try: -b do -p linux64 -u none ?
# [11:08] <edmorley> ewong: yes; though you could even drop one of opt or debug
# [11:08] <edmorley> you don't really need both
# [11:08] <edmorley> ewong: make check gets run for both, so I say drop debug
# [11:08] <ewong> ok
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# [11:10] <ewong> can't wait until these turn pink.. ;)
# [11:10] <edmorley> :-)
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# [11:14] <ewong> sorry guys for the purple cancels.. my bad..
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# [11:15] <edmorley> ewong: tis no problem :-)
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# [11:15] <edmorley> it's just something I keep an eye on (eg http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html)
# [11:17] <edmorley> khuey: can you give bz a warnings-as-errors prod please
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# [11:17] <edmorley> can't see him in channel
# [11:17] <ewong> oooooh nice list there..
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# [11:19] <annevk> Is anyone implementing <template>?
# [11:19] <annevk> hsivonen?
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# [11:20] <@khuey> edmorley: he's not here yet
# [11:20] <edmorley> bholley: can you give bz a warnings-as-errors prod please (can't see him in channel)
# [11:20] <edmorley> ah sorry
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# [11:20] <bholley> edmorley: what prod?
# [11:21] <edmorley> bholley: a "I thought you were all in the same room, so can you tell him his inbound push is burning prod" :-)
# [11:21] <bholley> edmorley: we run warnings-as-errors on TB?
# [11:22] <edmorley> bholley: in directories where it's set in the makefile, yes
# [11:22] <bholley> edmorley: ah right
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# [11:23] <bz> Fixing the red
# [11:23] <edmorley> bz: cheers :-)
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# [11:24] <jgilbert> even having warnings-as-errors on local builds isn't enough :<
# [11:25] <bz> jgilbert: I can't have it on for my local build
# [11:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/830784a5e43e - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 836920 followup. Fix warnins-as-errors bustage. r=tree-is-aflame-dance-around-it
# [11:25] <bz> jgilbert: because then it doesn't build
# [11:25] <bz> jgilbert: because it hits warnings tinderbox doesn't hit...
# [11:25] <jgilbert> bz, ouchhies
# [11:27] <bz> jgilbert: precisely
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# [12:24] <NeilAway> gps: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/bc108d2ce8d1/services/sync/Weave.js#l92
# [12:24] <NeilAway> gps: where does Weave get defined?
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# [12:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de9b729d67dc - Edmund Wong - Bug 838463 - make check failing in test_mozconfig at test_read_new_variables. pop env. vars. CC and CXX. r=gps
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# [12:29] <ewong> err what's the current milestone? mozilla20?
# [12:29] <ewong> or 21?
# [12:30] <glandium> ewong: 21
# [12:30] <ewong> glandium: thanks!
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# [12:31] <NeilAway> oh dear
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# [12:31] <NeilAway> I think I might have to cite keyboard inaccesibility as part of a r- for one of surkov's patches
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# [13:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1706b098cda7 - Ed Morley - Bug 822284 - Re-Disable browser_privatebrowsing_cookieacceptdialog.js & browser_privatebrowsing_crh.js on OS X for too many intermittent failures
# [13:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f6033f1481f - Ed Morley - Bug 823022 - Disable docshell/test/test_bug590573.html on Android for too many intermittent failures
# [13:07] <Optimize1> anybody seen this : http://i.imgur.com/hwAmPse.png
# [13:08] <Optimize1> open the new chrome experiment http://www.findyourwaytooz.com/ and every kind of paint issues happen on the browser
# [13:08] <Optimize1> not only the dev tools
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# [13:12] <gfritzsche> Optimize1: seems fine on my nightly
# [13:12] <gfritzsche> hardware/driver specific maybe?
# [13:12] <Optimize1> have HWA enabled with no as such gfx card
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# [13:14] <gfritzsche> yikes
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# [13:43] <edmorley> gfritzsche: about:permissions?
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# [13:44] <gfritzsche> edmorley: i meant ui-wise there is nothing to ungrant the camera access
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# [13:44] <edmorley> gfritzsche: yeah I know
# [13:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e059622a0b3 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 838304 - null out mResult when removing container nodes.
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# [13:45] <edmorley> gfritzsche: I just meant does it appear on about:permissions, or not even there?
# [13:45] <edmorley> (ignoring the obvious that we don't link to about:permissions anywhere)
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# [13:46] <gfritzsche> edmorley: not appearing there, i guess temporary permissions shouldn't go there anyway?
# [13:46] <gfritzsche> i can close/reload to fix it, but i'd have expected some "camera off" button
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# [13:47] <gfritzsche> edmorley: filed bug 838543 FWIW
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# [13:59] <gfritzsche> but yeah, in general the about:permission things really need a way to be actually found :)
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# [14:00] <firebot> cpearce was last seen 1 day, 14 hours, 59 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'RyanVM: Pushed a fix.' in #developers.
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# [14:01] <RattyAway> Anyone know why all the files in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/wmf/ have DOS line endings?
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# [14:03] <padenot> RattyAway: because it was developed on windows and cpearce did not set up his editor properly
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# [14:04] <RattyAway> padenot: I have a fix for Bug 838537 - Unable to Build with VS2008SP1/VC9 since Bug 836927
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# [14:04] <@khuey> has cpearce still not fixed that?
# [14:04] <RattyAway> waiting to see if my build completes first
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# [14:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e891e0db397 - Christian Holler - Bug 838148 - Add 63 missing jit-tests for various bugs. rs=terrence
# [14:05] <padenot> I believe cpearce was sleeping when the bug was opened, and still is
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# [14:05] <padenot> I can r+ the patch in a minute, though, if needed
# [14:06] <@khuey> I mean his editor settings
# [14:06] <padenot> ha
# [14:06] <padenot> same problem for roc
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# [14:08] <RattyAway> khuey: I thought someone was going to put in a hook to prevent people from checking in files with DOS line endings?
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# [14:14] <RattyAway> padenot: This works for VS2008 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=710634&action=edit
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# [14:15] <RattyAway> Don't have VS2010 or VS2012
# [14:15] <RattyAway> to test
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# [14:15] <padenot> I can do that
# [14:17] <RattyAway> thanks
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# [14:29] <hsivonen> annevk: wchen is implementing <template>
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# [14:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e871e6dba26 - Christian Holler - Bug 838150 - Add ASan and Valgrind annotations to JS LifoAlloc. r=bhackett
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# [14:36] <annevk> wchen: did you see https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20127 ?
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# [14:38] <annevk> bz: so rendering includes shadow DOM? even though shadow DOM also modifies event handling and such?
# [14:39] <annevk> bz: I guess that's fair
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# [14:40] <@bz> annevk: Once we start doing anything with shadow DOM, we get rendering for free
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# [14:50] <mounir> jlebar: ping
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# [14:52] <edmorley> bugzilla so slow right now :-(
# [14:52] <mounir> jlebar: I found what I was looking for actually
# [14:52] <mounir> jlebar: un-ping ;)
# [14:53] <RyanVM> is bugzilla crawling for anyone else?
# [14:53] <jlebar> RyanVM: edmorley, above.
# [14:53] <jlebar> RyanVM: Or did you mean anyone else else?
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# [14:53] <RyanVM> touche
# [14:54] <jdm> it's a special sheriff mode
# [14:54] <jlebar> :D
# [14:54] <edmorley> heh :-)
# [14:54] <edmorley> it's b.m.o fighting back for all the bzapi calls from tbplbot
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# [14:56] <glob> edmorley++
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# [14:59] <jdm> glob: while you're around, do you have any immediate thoughts on making bugzilla not send me emails about flag changes that I make? (eg. cancelling a review)
# [14:59] <jdm> glob: would it make sense to extend the rule about bugzilla not sending emails about changes I make to bugs to apply to flags too?
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# [14:59] <glob> jdm, how flags have been implemented in bugzilla is very very odd
# [15:00] <glob> jdm, wrt email, it doesn't use the normal mechanisms
# [15:00] <jdm> oh joyous day
# [15:00] <glob> indeed. there's an open bug, but attention is elsewhere right now
# [15:01] <padenot> I've got an error when clobbering a fennec build, any thoughts? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2118855
# [15:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d2238d5ff59 - Edgar Chen - Bug 809725 - Part 2: Read contact email. r=allstars.chh
# [15:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8feaf3eba8ab - Edgar Chen - Bug 809725 - Part 4: xpcshell tests for readEmail. r=allstars.chh
# [15:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/726591db8896 - Edgar Chen - Bug 809725 - Part 3: Export Email to contact. r=gwagner
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# [15:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc166e26efa4 - Edgar Chen - Bug 809725 - Part 1: Add readEmail and readIAP in ICCRecordHelper. r=allstars.chh
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# [15:09] <jlebar> gandalf: "but just hit this preallocated
# [15:09] <jlebar> process timeout with a very slow up (over 5000ms startup time)."
# [15:09] <jlebar> gandalf: I don't know what that means.
# [15:09] <gandalf> jlebar: there's a 5s timeout before we create a new process right?
# [15:09] <jlebar> gandalf: yes
# [15:10] <gandalf> what happens when an app starts for 7sec?
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# [15:10] <jlebar> gandalf: It's 5s from the app's first idle.
# [15:10] <gandalf> oh?
# [15:10] <gandalf> hmm
# [15:10] <gandalf> interesting
# [15:10] <gandalf> ok
# [15:10] <jlebar> gandalf: Also, the new app runs in the background, so in theory, it should not be competing with CPU time.
# [15:10] <gandalf> I thought it's 5s from the moment when the app takeovers the process
# [15:10] <jlebar> competing /for/ CPU time.
# [15:11] <gandalf> well, then why is it that when this is 1s email starts in 5s and with it it starts in 3.5s?
# [15:11] <jlebar> gandalf: Something about the theory is wrong, it sounds like. :)
# [15:11] <gandalf> hmm
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# [15:12] <gandalf> ok, we actually changed the delay from 1s to 5s to speed up email app
# [15:12] <gandalf> so I assumed that it's competing for resources
# [15:12] <jlebar> gandalf: yes, although lots of changes have happened since then.
# [15:12] <gandalf> yeah
# [15:12] <gandalf> and there are even more in the pipeline
# [15:13] <jlebar> gandalf: yes.
# [15:13] <gandalf> but the 5s delay overall means that starting apps relatively fast one after another (below 5s) is slow
# [15:13] <gandalf> so I'd like to try to reduce that delay
# [15:13] <jlebar> gandalf: yes, I recall you mentioning that earlier.
# [15:13] <gandalf> but not hurt the email speed
# [15:13] <jlebar> gandalf: If you can come up with a good notion of "app is launching somewhere," then go for it; I'm happy to review a patch.
# [15:13] <gandalf> that's why I thought about the delay, but if it's 5s from idle
# [15:13] <gandalf> then it should affect
# [15:14] <jlebar> gandalf: Our notion of "idle" probably isn't ideal.
# [15:14] <gandalf> app is launching somewhere can be caught by the system app appwillopen to flip the flag
# [15:14] <jlebar> gandalf: and when does the app launching finish?
# [15:14] <gandalf> and mozbrowserloadend to flip it off again
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# [15:14] <jlebar> gandalf: So if we have a buggy app that never triggers mozbrowserloadend, we'll never prelaunch after that one?
# [15:14] <gandalf> I even believe vivien added a custom event like appopened :)
# [15:15] <gandalf> is it possible not to trigger mozbrowserloadend?
# [15:15] <jlebar> gandalf: And what if the app crashes along the way and doesn't fire mozbrowserloadend -- we'll never prelaunch after that?
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# [15:15] <gandalf> well, we could set a timer that checks after 5s if the app launched and if not, assume it crashed *^^* :)
# [15:15] <jlebar> gandalf: Sure; mozbrowserloadend fires after window.onload. And window.onload waits until all inline script has finished.
# [15:15] <gandalf> I get your point
# [15:15] <gandalf> probably not worth it
# [15:16] <jlebar> gandalf: I don't know. Maybe your heuristic makes sense.
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# [15:17] <firebot> Check-in:
# [15:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba65f8aead21 - Raymond Lee - Bug 835218 - Fix for intermittent browser_geolocation_privatebrowsing_perwindowpb.js | Test timed out, | Found a browser window after previous test timed out; r=ehsan
# [15:19] <@bsmedberg> is bugzilla being awful for anyone else, or is it my local connection?
# [15:19] <glob> bsmedberg, it's painful for everyone, IT are looking at it
# [15:19] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I thought it's only me, but yeah it's very slow
# [15:19] <@bsmedberg> ok
# [15:19] <@bsmedberg> I'm relieved, kinda ;-)
# [15:19] <@ehsan> glob: is there a bug #?
# [15:20] <glob> ehsan, i'll ask
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# [15:20] <@ehsan> dao: can you please review bug 832290 today? I'd like to land it before I go away...
# [15:20] <@ehsan> thanks!
# [15:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d66a512bdd7 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 820482 - Ensure pressed state is cancelled on any swipe (r=mfinkle)
# [15:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bebb0d153de0 - Philip Chee - Bug 838537 - Fix the build for VS2008. r=padenot
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# [15:26] <espindola> vladan: what was the extension name again?
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# [15:26] <espindola> the one you need to reproduce the bug
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# [15:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1e47cdd7b68 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 838518 part 1. Fix treewalker callers per the API change that was made. r=smaug
# [15:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adcbf76cd586 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 838518 part 2. Fix nodeiterator callers per the API change that was made. r=smaug
# [15:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a236893f5737 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 837031. When unlinking a keyframe rule, make sure to DropReference on its declaration. r=smaug
# [15:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e0f4418ad0c - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 837645. Support 'any' values in sequences and dictionaries. r=smaug,peterv
# [15:31] <Yoric> ttaubert: Ok, I have a readable draft of the algorithm I mentioned yesterday for async Session Restore SaveState.
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# [15:32] <ttaubert> Yoric: nice
# [15:33] <Yoric> It might work.
# [15:33] <Yoric> And if it does, it might be reusable in other places.
# [15:34] <ttaubert> Yoric: I like the // FIXME: Implement
# [15:34] <ttaubert> :)
# [15:34] <Yoric> Yeah, well, this patch is called "early preview" :)
# [15:34] <sheppy> "FIXME: Implement a web browser."
# [15:35] <ttaubert> I thought we did that :)
# [15:35] <sheppy> ttaubert: Well, is it finished? Nope. :)
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# [15:36] <ttaubert> sheppy: :(
# [15:36] <sheppy> I'd tell y'all to hop to it, but I'd rather you all take six months off so we can try to catch up on docs. :)
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# [15:36] <derf> I don't know. There are all these pages that tell me to download Chrome to make them work. They're clearly on the web and I can't browse them.
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# [15:36] <sheppy> derf: :)
# [15:36] <ttaubert> Yoric: spawnCollaborative() would iterate over the task and sometimes use setTimeout(0) to let other code run in between, right?
# [15:36] <Yoric> That's the idea.
# [15:37] <ttaubert> kk
# [15:37] <sheppy> I still sometimes run into "Works best in Internet Explorer 6."
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# [15:37] <ttaubert> well if it's true...
# [15:37] <Yoric> sheppy: There's a confusion here, we are talking about _web_ browsers.
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# [15:37] <Yoric> If it "works best in Internet Explorer 6", that's certainly not web.
# [15:37] <Yoric> Possibly HTML Gopher or something such.
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# [15:37] <sheppy> :)
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# [15:38] <ttaubert> Yoric: man I love promises. the wait() method is so nice if you combine it with other stuff. in general, I mean
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# [15:42] <Yoric> ttaubert: Promises + Task.jsm + Generators rule.
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# [15:43] <ttaubert> yes
# [15:43] <ttaubert> I hope they rule Firefox one day
# [15:43] <ttaubert> :)
# [15:44] <Yoric> Working on it :)
# [15:45] <Yoric> ttaubert: For the moment, the way I determine whether async data collection has returned something consistent is with this fixpoint trick.
# [15:45] <Yoric> (collect data asynchronously twice, if you obtain the same result, it's a fixpoint)
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# [15:45] <Yoric> Do you think this will work, e.g. with Tweeter or GMail?
# [15:46] <ttaubert> Yoric: hm. this doesn't sound very reliable to me...
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# [15:47] <Yoric> ttaubert: How would you handle the problem of ensuring that we have a snapshot?
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# [15:48] <vladan> espindola: PrivacyChoice TrackerBlock
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# [15:49] <ttaubert> Yoric: didn't we want to have a flag that denotes something changed while saving state?
# [15:49] <Yoric> ttaubert: We do, but how do we determine that something has changed?
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# [15:49] <espindola> thanks
# [15:50] <Yoric> If provide me with a dirty flag, I will be quite happy to make use of it
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# [15:51] <ttaubert> Yoric: there's a couple of events we listen for and if those fire we should set the flag. not sure if that covers everything we have, though
# [15:52] <Yoric> ttaubert: I strongly doubt it.
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# [15:52] <Yoric> We need to handle changes in SessionStorage, forms fields, frame history, etc.
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# [15:53] <ttaubert> there's listeners for all of that
# [15:53] <ttaubert> how do you think we detect when to save state? :)
# [15:53] <Yoric> ttaubert: I had the impression that this involved chicken sacrifices and a healthy dose of guessing.
# [15:54] <ttaubert> Yoric: well on the other hand, collecting state *at least* twice doesn't sound like a good way to go either
# [15:54] <Yoric> No, definitely.
# [15:54] <ttaubert> Yoric: we wouldn't even need to throw away all the state if only DOMSessionStorage changed
# [15:55] <Yoric> ttaubert: Is that "not throwing away all the state" already implemented somewhere in the code?
# [15:56] <edmorley> jaws: thank you :-)
# [15:56] <Yoric> ttaubert: If I patch |_saveStateDelayed| to dirty the flag, will this be sufficient?
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# [15:57] <yzen> Yoric: ping
# [15:57] <Yoric> yzen: pong
# [15:58] <Yoric> yzen: We need to talk :)
# [15:58] <yzen> Yoric: sure :)
# [15:59] <ttaubert> Yoric: thb, I'm not sure if that's doable currently
# [15:59] <Yoric> ttaubert: Any suggestion, in that case?
# [16:00] <yzen> Yoric: I was trying to play around with the memory issue in fennec, I was just hoping your might have some pointers as to how to verify the issue is fixed. What i did, I built and deployed the nightly with my changes and I access about:memory, but i m not sure what exactly I should be looking at ? Trying to find os file worker threads?
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# [16:00] <Yoric> yzen: I am not really clear about that either.
# [16:01] <Yoric> yzen: I would work from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837131#c6
# [16:01] <yzen> Yoric: and would you know if the patch actually affected the language as was reported in another Bug ?
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# [16:01] <ttaubert> Yoric: I'd attack this more iteratively i.e. first, try to make DOMSessionStorage data collection async and see if we can detect change (we can, I added an event for that :) and then restart it if needed
# [16:01] <Yoric> yzen: I assume you mean bug 837419?
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# [16:01] <yzen> yes , correcy
# [16:01] <yzen> correct
# [16:02] <ttaubert> Yoric: we could then already land that and tackle other stuff one by one
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# [16:02] <Yoric> ttaubert: Give me a few minutes to work with yzen, I'll be back later.
# [16:02] <ttaubert> Yoric: sure
# [16:02] <Yoric> yzen: So that bug puzzles me more than the memory regression.
# [16:02] <Yoric> yzen: It would be great if you could manage to reproduce it.
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# [16:03] <Yoric> From the top of my head, I can see two possible causes: 1/ a typo; 2/ something that doesn't like being stringified with JSON.stringify.
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# [16:03] <Yoric> Although, given that DEBUG is set to false, nothing should be strigified.
# [16:03] <yzen> Yoric: should be doable , the steps are actually listed
# [16:04] <yzen> Yoric: yes intersting
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# [16:04] <Yoric> Can you handle that?
# [16:04] <Yoric> s/handle/take charge of/
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# [16:05] <yzen> Yoric: sure, ill try to reproduce it and let you know what I find, ill play with memory issue as well
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# [16:05] <yzen> thanks for your help again, Yoric
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# [16:07] <espindola> vladan: got a crash on OS X! :-)
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# [16:09] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ping?
# [16:09] <@bsmedberg> khuey: pong
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# [16:10] <vladan> espindola: awesome :)
# [16:10] <@bsmedberg> espindola: you don't have to sound so excited ;-)
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# [16:10] <@khuey> bsmedberg: are there platforms which don't have __thread and aren't windows?
# [16:10] <@bsmedberg> I totally don't know the answer to that question
# [16:10] <espindola> bsmedberg: compared to debugging a windows only crash?
# [16:11] <@khuey> bsmedberg: is there anybody who would?
# [16:11] <@bsmedberg> espindola: I love the windows debuggers, unless it's memory corruption and I really want valgrind
# [16:11] <@bsmedberg> khuey: I suspect not
# [16:11] <@khuey> darn
# [16:11] <Yoric> yzen: Well, currently, I'm not helping out much. I'm just handing out work :)
# [16:11] <@bsmedberg> I mean... lots of people use our code
# [16:11] <@bsmedberg> we could try it and see who complains
# [16:11] <@bsmedberg> but I wouldn't make large architectural bets on it
# [16:12] <yzen> Yoric: :)
# [16:12] <Yoric> ttaubert: I'm available once again.
# [16:12] <@khuey> ok
# [16:12] <@khuey> thanks
# [16:12] <Yoric> ttaubert: I don't really understand your latest suggestion.
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# [16:13] <glandium> khuey: android, iirc
# [16:13] <@khuey> sadfaces
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# [16:14] <glandium> khuey: and openbsd and mips linux
# [16:14] <jaws> edmorley: no problem :-)
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# [16:14] <ttaubert> Yoric: I left some feedback in the bug
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# [16:16] <glandium> khuey: what did you need __thread for?
# [16:17] <@khuey> TLS
# [16:17] <@khuey> for the CC purple buffer
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# [16:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/487d16b80087 - Jet Villegas - Bug 812638: backs out bug 480647 (part 6) r=ehsan
# [16:18] <glandium> khuey: you could use __thread where supported and pthread_setspecific where not
# [16:19] <glandium> khuey: note that windows actually does *not* support __thread in dlls
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# [16:19] <@khuey> yeah, for windows we use TlsAlloc/etc
# [16:19] <@khuey> I can probably use the NSPR APIs in the weird cases
# [16:19] <glandium> khuey: jemalloc does that, fwiw
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# [16:19] <@khuey> just more work
# [16:20] <glandium> (use __thread or pthread_setspecific or TlsAlloc)
# [16:20] <@khuey> mmm
# [16:20] <@khuey> ok
# [16:20] <glandium> a templatized TLS type would certainly be a good addition to mfbt
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# [16:26] <gfritzsche> no need to templatize if the implementations are separate over platforms, no?
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# [16:26] <@khuey> templatize over the type being stored in tls
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# [16:27] <gfritzsche> ah, i see :)
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# [16:29] <jdm> what's the story with the XPCOM types declared in headers rather than generated from IDL?
# [16:29] <jdm> why do they exist?
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# [16:30] <jdm> do I need to update the IID if I change the interface?
# [16:30] <@khuey> yes
# [16:30] <davidb> is there something like a ux-helpwanted keyword?
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# [16:30] <gaston> khuey: if you intend to add smth os-dependent wrt TLS, cc me on the bug so i can test the diff in advance..
# [16:31] <Ms2ger> jdm, because the C++ API exposed by IDL interfaces sucks
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# [16:31] <zwol> compartment([System Principal], about:blank) shouldn't be occupying 770 MB immediately after Firefox starts up, yes? Any good way to troubleshoot? (17.0.1; yes, I pushed "minimize memory usage")
# [16:32] <@khuey> zwol: 681201
# [16:32] <mcsmurf> firebot: bug 681201
# [16:33] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=681201 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Not-yet-restored empty tabs take more memory than they should
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# [16:33] <zwol> khuey: yeah, that makes sense
# [16:33] <zwol> er
# [16:33] <zwol> maybe not actually
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# [16:35] <zwol> khuey: I'm not saying that's not the bug, but this is immediately after an out-of-memory crash that wiped out the previous session. (Which had maybe 20 tabs open.)
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# [16:35] <@khuey> 20 unloaded tabs shouldn't give 770 MB of about:blank
# [16:35] <zwol> khuey: "Restore Previous Session" is grayed out and right now there are only two tabs open (about:memory and Twitter)
# [16:36] <@khuey> neither should 0
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# [16:36] <@khuey> zwol: pastebin the breakdown of the about:blank compartment
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# [16:37] <zwol> khuey: too late, already restarted it :-/
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# [16:39] <evilpie> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/ipc/ObjectWrapperParent.cpp#704 are we using that in desktop firefox builds at all?
# [16:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de6ad98785e0 - Jason Smith - bug 837421 - Crashtest for WebRTC ConnectionDataConnection causes assertion failures if called a second time. r=jesup
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# [16:40] <@khuey> pretty sure we're not using CPOWs
# [16:40] <@khuey> bholley: ^
# [16:41] <zwol> on a completely unrelated note, suppose there is a shiny new WebIDL binding to an interface that can't actually fail (always returns NS_OK) but had to return nsresult because XPCOM. So it's marked 'throws' unnecessarily. Do we have a plan for cleaning those up? How does one clean that up?
# [16:41] <bholley> khuey: yes, but dvander and billm are using them
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# [16:42] <@khuey> evilpie: ^
# [16:43] <evilpie> bholley: so you would say a linux64 try run was pretty useless to test what happens when i remove typeof? ^^
# [16:43] <Ms2ger> zwol, which case?
# [16:43] <@khuey> zwol: remove the Throws annotation and remove the ErrorResult& param from the function signature
# [16:43] <zwol> Ms2ger, right now I'm looking at CSS2Properties
# [16:43] <bholley> evilpie: why?
# [16:44] <bholley> evilpie: oh, I see
# [16:44] <bholley> evilpie: I'm really not the guy to ask
# [16:44] <zwol> the setters can fail, the getters can't
# [16:44] <evilpie> oh not typeof of course :)
# [16:44] <@khuey> ok mark them SetterThrows
# [16:44] <Ms2ger> zwol, SetterThrows, then
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# [16:44] <@khuey> instead of just Throws
# [16:44] <@khuey> and remove the ErrorResult& params on hte getters
# [16:44] <evilpie> bholley: still cjones?
# [16:44] <zwol> gotcha
# [16:44] <Ms2ger> So GetPropertyValue can't fail?
# [16:44] <zwol> right
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# [16:45] <zwol> Is it also possible at this point to make the actual methods in nsDOMCSSDeclaration not be NS_IMETHOD(IMP)?
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# [16:46] <bholley> evilpie: or dvander/billm
# [16:46] <@bz> zwol: CSS2Properties getters can throw
# [16:46] <@bz> zwol: I did look into that, and it made me very sad, but....
# [16:46] <jdm> khuey: technically billm is
# [16:46] <zwol> bz: the actual implementation never fails
# [16:46] <@bz> zwol: "the"?
# [16:46] <@bz> zwol: there are multiple implementations. :(
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# [16:46] <zwol> bz: besides nsDOMCSSDeclaration??!
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# [16:46] <@bz> zwol: nsComputedDOMStyle
# [16:46] <@bz> zwol: which is the one that throws....
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> :(
# [16:47] <@bz> zwol: I'd love to have that fixed, obviously. ;)
# [16:47] <evilpie> dvander, billm: ^
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> zwol, they need to be NS_IMETHODs as long as they need to implement the nsIDOMCSSDeclaration functions
# [16:48] <Ms2ger> Maybe we can remove that interface, I dunno
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# [16:49] <zwol> bz: would you take a patch that made nsComputedDOMStyle::GetPropertyCSSValue return the empty string without throwing in all cases where it presently throws? I'm not up for chasing down and squelching all the conditions where we could, for instance, get there and have a stale weak pointer to the document.
# [16:49] <@bz> zwol: I could probably live with that, yeah.
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# [16:51] <zwol> this is starting to feel like a bigger bug than I have time for right now, unfortunately, but I'll at least file it
# [16:51] <@bz> zwol: thanks!
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# [16:56] <jfkthame> you'd think that if a reftest run triggers 2600 assertions, it'd have the decency to go orange…. but noooo…not if they're cairo assertions, we don't notice those
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# [16:58] <@khuey> make cairo assertions fatal and it'll go orange! :-P
# [16:58] <jfkthame> :)
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> Cairo doesn't count, kill it :)
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# [17:13] <gregglind> where do the css for 'standard' firefox browser (chrome) stuff live? I.e, for panels, buttons, etc.
# [17:13] <jwir3> gregglind: browser.css, I think
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# [17:14] <jwir3> gregglind: browser/base/content/browser.css
# [17:14] <gregglind> thanks jwir3! chrome://browser/content/browser.css indeed.
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# [17:22] <RyanVM> ehsan: jet's not here - can you investigate?
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# [17:27] <davidb> RyanVM: you backed out a back out :)
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# [17:28] <RyanVM> indeed i did
# [17:28] <davidb> ok just checking you were aware
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# [17:29] <RyanVM> the test bustage was pretty obviously linked to it
# [17:29] <davidb> fair enough
# [17:29] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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# [17:29] <Yoric> yzen: pong
# [17:29] <jwir3> if an interface is changed at the IID line (e.g. removing 'builtinclass'), should the IID itself be changed?
# [17:30] <Ms2ger> Why are you removing builtinclass?
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# [17:30] <jwir3> Ms2ger: I'm not
# [17:30] <@bz> Removing builtinclass doesn't require changing IID
# [17:30] <@bz> Changing IID is basically for things that change the ABI
# [17:30] <jwir3> Ms2ger: I'm testing an IID checking patch, and it found that was done in a previous patch that someone pushed
# [17:31] <yzen> Yoric: so i rebuilt with importing services with this as scope and i dont see the os file worker allocation at all in about:memory anymore
# [17:31] <jwir3> bz: ok, thanks
# [17:31] <Ms2ger> Ah, neat
# [17:32] <Yoric> yzen: Ok, so as I suspected the service was imported in the scope of the closure and never garbage-collected.
# [17:32] <Yoric> That solves one of the issues.
# [17:32] <Yoric> Now for the other one :)
# [17:32] <yzen> awesome :)
# [17:32] <Yoric> Anyeone: in a JSM, how do I reliably determine whether some object is an instance of |String|?
# [17:32] <Yoric> (instanceof fails if the String comes from another module)
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# [17:33] <yzen> Yoric: does it mean this should be the best practice to import it into this ?
# [17:33] <yzen> in general
# [17:33] <Yoric> yzen: Most likely, yes.
# [17:33] <yzen> ok
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# [17:39] <NeilAway> davidb: you thought that was bad, he managed to back out a dependent bug before landing a patch that depended on it :-P
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# [17:39] <dholbert> NeilAway, it was residual guilt from a few static_casts I'd added recently
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# [17:39] <dholbert> NeilAway, you gave me a way to make them go away, and I had to take it :)
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# [17:43] <RyanVM> bent: I'm a bit worried about those m-oth oranges
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# [17:44] <bent> RyanVM, i just realized i was using the wrong bug number...
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# [17:44] <bent> RyanVM, it's bug 835106
# [17:44] <RyanVM> more so, they look perma
# [17:44] <bent> existed at least five days ago
# [17:45] <bent> more likely for the last year
# [17:45] <RyanVM> not on b2g18
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# [17:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM: what's up?
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# [17:46] <RyanVM> ehsan: already backed it out :)
# [17:46] <@ehsan> ok cool
# [17:46] <@ehsan> thanks
# [17:46] <RyanVM> jet's backout broke M
# [17:47] <RyanVM> M2
# [17:47] <RyanVM> oranged it anyway
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# [17:51] <bent> RyanVM, hard to say for sure though right? I've been getting bugmail about this hang happening on esr17, moz-release too
# [17:51] <RyanVM> bent: yeah, I really don't know. Part of me things it's a compiler bug we're hitting or something
# [17:51] <RyanVM> since it seems to come and go randomly
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# [17:51] <bent> i think it's just a slow machine that triggers a race bug somewhere
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# [17:55] <@smaug> annevk: I'll file
# [17:55] <annevk> k
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# [17:56] <philor> bent / RyanVM: whatever you're seeing, you're not seeing bug 835106 unless you're looking at the profiling branch
# [17:57] <philor> well, I guess unless someone splatted whatever the cause of it was onto b2g18
# [17:57] <bent> yeah... hard to say
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# [17:59] <RyanVM> philor: yes, "someone" :P
# [17:59] <philor> he's not in the trunk window, though
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# [18:00] <RyanVM> we saw an instance of this on inbound recently too from a push by njn IIRC
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# [18:19] <jhylands> RyanVM: pong
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# [18:19] <RyanVM> jhylands: so your Expensify review is the top one in the Play Store atm
# [18:19] <jhylands> heh
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# [18:20] <RyanVM> That said, did you actually get SmartScan to *work*?
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# [18:20] <RyanVM> doesn't seem like it does anything for me besides take pictures
# [18:20] <jhylands> no - we don't use SmartScan
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# [18:21] <RyanVM> ah
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# [18:49] <gps> whimboo|afk: pong
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# [18:50] <NeilAway> gps: sure, but that doesn't get loaded until the line after you use it...
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# [19:14] <dholbert> hsivonen, was going to ask for rubber-stamp on the patch in bug 838715 before filing a bug, but I just ended up filing a bug
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# [19:15] <AaronMT> bjacob: ping?
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# [19:15] <bjacob> AaronMT: pong
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# [19:15] <AaronMT> do you have any of affected devices?
# [19:16] <tanvi> smaug: thanks for the reviews!
# [19:16] <@smaug> np
# [19:16] <bjacob> AaronMT: no, but will try several devices now
# [19:16] <AaronMT> bjacob: Ok, kairo posted this https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/rkaiser/2013-02-05/2013-02-05.fennecandroid.release.18.0.devices.html#sigs
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# [19:17] <hsivonen> dholbert: r+
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# [19:17] <bjacob> AaronMT: does that significantly differ from a general list of popular android devices?
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# [19:18] <AaronMT> KaiRo: ^?
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# [19:18] <mounir> NeilAway: I guess so
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# [19:18] <bjacob> AaronMT: anyway, we do have nexus 7's thankqs
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# [19:20] <bjacob> KaiRo: do you see an inflection in the crash rate since the blocklist was backed out
# [19:20] <KaiRo> AaronMT, bjacob: not sure how much it differs from general Android population on those bugs
# [19:20] <KaiRo> bjacob: and yes, as I posted in the bug I filed today, I see that time correlation
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# [19:23] <KaiRo> bjacob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=838603#c6 has the analysis on the timing, which seems to correlate with the blocklist push - at least the trigger needs to have happened within a few hours from that
# [19:23] <KaiRo> and so far, we don't have any other candidate for a trigger
# [19:23] <bjacob> KaiRo: i saw that; even 100% assuming that this is the cause, i'm still interested in knowing if the back out is effective at stopping the spill
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# [19:25] <bjacob> (or if we have more users who had already downloaded the bad blocklist and didnt show up yet in crash reports)
# [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08c635bf0d04 - Terrence Cole - Bug 706885 - Move post barrier verifier to JSRuntime; r=billm
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# [19:25] <KaiRo> bjacob: all we can probably do is watch the reports flowing in on Socorro, in something like the reports tab of https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?product=FennecAndroid&version=FennecAndroid%3A18.0&signature=mozalloc_abort
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# [19:26] <bjacob> KaiRo: it's not easy to do stats with that
# [19:26] <dholbert> hsivonen, thanks
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# [19:26] <KaiRo> bjacob: yes, we don't have real-time monitoring on Socorro, feel free to ask laura for real-time volume graphs per signature
# [19:27] <romaxa> hmm weird, firefox showing http auth dialog which request enter password and username for page URL which is not even opened in tabs...
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# [19:27] <romaxa> dolske: ^ any ideas what is that about and how to debug where it is coming from?
# [19:27] <@ehsan> do we disable the jit when the js debugger is turned on?
# [19:27] <KaiRo> bjacob: if there's a reason that web app dev using Socorro-as-a-service will need this as well, amybe they can do it
# [19:28] <KaiRo> (SaaS has been set as their P1 goal for this yaer)
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# [19:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eafc4cf19150 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 838256: Add periods at the end of sentences in nsHTMLTagList.h header-comment. r=hsivonen
# [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d53ff47e3297 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 838394: Remove redundant/unnecessary NS_WARNING in nsMixedContentBlocker::ShouldLoad, and replace MOZ_NOT_REACHED with MOZ_ASSERT(false) to get defined behavior.
# [19:28] <bjacob> KaiRo: this wont come as a surprise to you, but what would work for me there would be csv files at a higher frequency than 1/day
# [19:28] <firebot> r=tanvi r=smaug
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# [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e43702bffb92 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 838715: Add periods at the end of sentences in nsHTMLTagList.h header-comment. r=hsivonen DONTBUILD
# [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed505e665158 - Daniel Holbert - backout eafc4cf19150 because it landed with the wrong bug number
# [19:29] <KaiRo> bjacob: that for sure will stay a dream, but we hope we can get the middleware to be made more open, so you can do REST requests there and get the data from there (the UI gets all its data from the mware)
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# [19:31] <mcsmurf> ehsan: as far as I know JIT get disabled when using some JS debugger like Venkman, yes
# [19:31] <Bas> How do I find ADUs for 18.0.1 on windows?
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# [19:31] <Bas> Ms2ger: Thanks!
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# [19:33] <@dolske> romaxa: dunno. addon?
# [19:33] <mcsmurf> ehsan: though, quite a few things changed lately...hm, better ask someone else ;)
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# [19:33] <@ehsan> ok
# [19:33] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [19:35] <romaxa> dolske: I have only chatzilla and Firefox OS simulator ;)
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# [19:36] <romaxa> dolske: actually I see that popup http auth dialog showed only on http://grooveshark.com... but http dialog show //interanet url...
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# [19:36] <@dolske> could be an an image. we've talked about blocking auth requests from not-top-level content, but I don't think we have yet.
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# [19:36] <@dolske> I don't know of any easy way to debug.
# [19:37] <@ted> smaug: ping?
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# [19:38] <romaxa> dolske: I remember we had some debug prefs in LoginManagerPrompter or something like that... not sure if I can see easily output log for those dumps in error console..
# [19:38] <@dolske> there is, but it's not really going to help with answering why.
# [19:38] <@dolske> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:Password_Manager_Debugging
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# [19:38] <@smaug> ted: pong
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# [19:39] <@ted> smaug: how hard would it be to provide the original JS error object to window.onerror?
# [19:40] <@smaug> er, where?
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# [19:40] <@smaug> in the error event, I guess
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# [19:40] <@ted> yeah, i could not find the right place
# [19:40] <jdm> ted: last time I looked, it looked hard
# [19:40] <@smaug> error event is dispatched in nsJSEnvironment.cpp
# [19:40] <@ted> jdm: :-/
# [19:40] <@ted> jdm: remember why?
# [19:40] <jdm> I think I dug into the JS engine, and it wasn't being provided or something
# [19:40] <romaxa> dolske: oh, we have 3 version of LMP... http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/find?text=&string=LoginManagerPrompter.js
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# [19:41] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#304
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# [19:41] <@ted> NS_HandleScriptError ?
# [19:41] <@smaug> somewhere there yes
# [19:41] <@smaug> looking at the code...
# [19:41] <bajaj> dvander: ping
# [19:42] <bajaj> dvander: we are all in release co-ordinaiton for the debrief meeting, you joining ?
# [19:42] <@smaug> called in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsIScriptGlobalObject.h#114 ...
# [19:42] <jdm> smaug: that's only used by workers and indexeddb, apparently
# [19:42] <@ted> yeah
# [19:43] <jdm> hmm, we may have a column number in the js error reporter
# [19:43] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/WorkerPrivate.cpp#981 for example
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# [19:43] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/nsGUIEvent.h#706
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# [19:43] <@ted> but getting the error object would be nice because it has .stack
# [19:43] <@smaug> ted: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#330 is used for other stuff
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# [19:44] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#1725
# [19:44] <@ted> aha
# [19:44] <@ted> JS_SetErrorReporter
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# [19:45] <jdm> ted: it apparently comes down to nsScriptErrorEvent
# [19:46] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=scripterrorevent would all need updating to fill a new column member
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# [19:46] <jdm> also there are things like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/WorkerPrivate.cpp#1040
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# [19:47] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/Events.cpp#697
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# [19:49] <@ted> jdm: JS Error objects have a columnNumber property
# [19:49] <@ted> i guess workers don't
# [19:49] <@ted> hooray for everything in workers being different
# [19:50] <jdm> it may also just be an unintentional omission
# [19:50] <@ted> i'm sure
# [19:50] <@ted> this is what you get when you duplicate code
# [19:51] <jhammel> ted++
# [19:51] <@ted> jdm: okay, so the reality is that the ErrorReporter does not hand out a JS Error object
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# [19:51] <@ted> yeah
# [19:51] <@bz> which is usefulness-challenged
# [19:51] <@ted> hah!
# [19:51] <@bz> no stack, no column numbers
# [19:51] <@bz> Do please poke the JS folks about it!
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# [19:51] <@ted> so let me back up a step here
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# [19:52] <@ted> but window.onerror is really crappy
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# [20:31] <imelven> wesj1: thanks !
# [20:31] <@ted> ok, so i think it's plausible to get the error object out
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# [20:34] <AaronMT> hey bjacob I can reproduce on my Galaxy Tab
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# [21:20] <jwir3> is there a switch to get grep to do 'X lines of context' with a match? e.g. if I do `cat example | grep nsIPrincipal`, is there a way to get grep to output the line before, during, and after the lines with nsIPrincipal in them?
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# [21:21] <jwir3> nvm. found it
# [21:21] <dholbert> jwir3, grep -A is after
# [21:21] <dholbert> cool
# [21:21] <Ms2ger> -C
# [21:21] <jwir3> dholbert: yep, had to read the rest of the manpage.
# [21:21] <jwir3> :)
# [21:21] <Ms2ger> For both sides
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# [21:41] <NeilAway> jwir3: warning: useless use of cat, use <example grep nsIPrincipal
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# [21:42] <jwir3> NeilAway: Yeah, I was just struggling to come up with a good example. ;)
# [21:42] <jwir3> NeilAway: My brain got confused in the interim. :)
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# [21:49] <@ehsan> dao: ping
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# [21:51] <@ehsan> dao: so yeah, moz-padding was set by another rule with bigger specifity
# [21:51] <@ehsan> dao: shall I mark it as !important?
# [21:51] <dao> ehsan: what other rule?
# [21:51] <@ehsan> hmm
# [21:51] <@ehsan> let me pull up dom inspector again
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# [21:53] <@ehsan> dao: dom inspector doesn't let me copy it...
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# [21:53] <@ehsan> dao: http://grab.by/jFiK
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# [21:54] <@ehsan> dao: ok. anything else for me to fix?
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# [22:02] <@ehsan> dao: submitted a new patch
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# [22:03] <dao> ehsan: you can use padding for #window-controls too. I didn't mention this, since it's exactly the same pattern as used in the other two cases.
# [22:04] <@ehsan> dao: I can change that, but I don't have access to a pre-lion machine to test it on... until I get back (Feb 19)
# [22:04] <@ehsan> dao: do you want me to do that?
# [22:04] <dao> ehsan: yes
# [22:04] <@ehsan> ok
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# [22:21] <RyanVM> mmm, <3 coalescing
# [22:21] <Ameya> hg qpop not working
# [22:22] <Ameya> hg: unknown command 'qpop'
# [22:22] <Ameya> 'qpop' is provided by the following extension:
# [22:22] <Ameya> mq manage a stack of patches
# [22:22] <Ameya> use "hg help extensions" for information on enabling extensions
# [22:22] <Ameya> i have /.hgrc with hgext.mq= entry
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# [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c71474d33f63 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 34927afb65e2 and 2d0b056ced49 (bug 838559) for mochitest failures.
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# [22:24] <geekboy> Ameya: in the [extensions] section of your .hgrc?
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# [22:24] <RyanVM> gotta love it when someone uses Try to make sure a patch builds, but not that it actually passes tests
# [22:24] <philor> RyanVM: we're sorry, all available slaves are running each test five times on a release-mozilla-beta build, please stay on the bug 838789 line, your call is important to us
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# [22:25] <Ameya> geekboy : my hgrc http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2119767
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# [22:26] <jfkthame> isn't it just "mq=" for the extension?
# [22:26] <geekboy> Dunno what to tell you Ameya
# [22:27] <geekboy> my .hgrc has the same [extensions] syntax
# [22:27] <geekboy> you could try without hgext., but mine has it and it works
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# [22:27] <jfkthame> interesting - just looked in mine and there's no "hgext." there, but maybe it's ok either way
# [22:28] <Ameya> actually i put hgext bcoz just mq did work...
# [22:28] <Ameya> *didnt
# [22:28] <jfkthame> and where is your .hgrc file? are you sure it's being read at all?
# [22:29] <Ameya> yup
# [22:29] <Ameya> i think so
# [22:29] <Ameya> its at mozilla-central/.hgrc
# [22:30] <geekboy> put it in ~
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# [22:30] <jfkthame> no, you should have it in your home directory
# [22:30] <jfkthame> yes, what geekboy said!
# [22:30] <RyanVM> philor: that's a wee....excessive
# [22:30] <geekboy> :)
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# [22:37] <jimm> armenzg: that would be great, thx
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# [23:44] <seth> dholbert: so regarding the SVG image load event issue (not the SVG's _document_'s load event issue, which we've now solved): i'm not sure what to do here
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# [23:45] <seth> dholbert: a correct fix looks like it is a potentially very large amount of work. (a correct fix boils down to making _all_ images' load events fire when their first frame is decoded)
# [23:46] <jduell> who works on audio code? Like say, bug 832147
# [23:46] <dholbert> seth, so, remind me what situation doesn't work, now that we've got the document load even hooked up (and assuming we landed something like your existing patch on the decoupling bug, if that makes sense as a background for this)
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# [23:46] <dholbert> jduell, padenot and cpearce, to name a few
# [23:46] <dholbert> jduell, hg log on the file in question will tell you more
# [23:46] <jduell> dholbert: can you cc them on bug and ask for severity assessment?
# [23:47] <seth> dholbert: what doesn't work is that the load event for all images fires when OnStopRequest fires
# [23:47] <dholbert> jduell, can you? :) I don't know anything about that bug, and I'm doing several different things already
# [23:47] <espindola> Waldo: ping
# [23:47] <seth> dholbert: this means that SVGs are potentially not ready
# [23:47] <jduell> dholbert: ok
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# [23:48] <seth> dholbert: (actually i'm not convinced that raster images are always ready too. this may be a general cause of random oranges)
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# [23:48] <Waldo> espindola: pong
# [23:48] <philor> cjones: bustage
# [23:48] <espindola> Waldo: any comments on 774390?
# [23:48] <espindola> sorry for dropping it, but the original use case I had went away
# [23:48] <seth> dholbert: we unfortunately have tests that wait for the image load event instead of the document's load event
# [23:48] <espindola> I now have a new one
# [23:48] <dholbert> seth, raster images use decode-on-draw, at least in some cases, I think
# [23:49] <dholbert> seth, (or at least, they can, in theory)
# [23:49] <Waldo> espindola: sigh, that; I really think people should make explicit exactly what's being tested, and that it's being tested everywhere, by using unguarded ifs and MOZ_CRASH(), but I have been insufficiently energized to reenter that bug and argue it against opposition
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# [23:50] <seth> dholbert: right, in some cases raster images will synchronously force a decode, which makes them work. once OMTD lands this is probably going to be a bigger problem
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# [23:50] <dholbert> jduell, oh, that's my bug! :)
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# [23:50] <jduell> dholbert: :)
# [23:50] <dholbert> jduell, (sorry, I didn't realize :))
# [23:50] <espindola> Waldo: so are you OK(ish) with me adding that macro?
# [23:50] <jduell> dholbert: no worries
# [23:50] <jduell> I commented
# [23:50] <dholbert> thanks!
# [23:51] <cjones> philor, er, that doesn't make sense
# [23:51] <cjones> bz or jlebar, ping
# [23:51] <dholbert> seth, [reading]
# [23:51] <Waldo> espindola: I don't really want the macro -- I think it's clearer to read |if (unlikely case) MOZ_CRASH();|
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# [23:51] <jlebar> cjones: hey, in memshrink meeting, but I can be distracted briefly.
# [23:51] <cjones> jlebar, does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19508062&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error0 look familiar? does it need a clobber or something?
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# [23:51] <Waldo> espindola: and if it's an error message that's desired, then making MOZ_CRASH take a string literal argument that it'd print/dump before crashing
# [23:51] <cjones> (obviously built fine locally)
# [23:52] <jlebar> cjones: wha...
# [23:52] <cjones> jlebar, or maybe that patch breaks some hidden IDL constraint?
# [23:52] <jlebar> cjones: are you #including an IDL file?
# [23:52] <cjones> jlebar, yeah, |#include "mozIApplication.idl"|
# [23:52] <espindola> Waldo: well, the error message having the failed test would be what I want.
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# [23:52] <espindola> my use case is really a MOZ_ASSERT
# [23:52] <dholbert> seth, so, if we tweaked those tests to wait for the document load event (by running script synchronously instead of chaining it off of onload), would that address this?
# [23:52] <espindola> that also crashes on release
# [23:52] <seth> dholbert: IMO we need to change when img.onload is fired, but i'd really prefer to make that a separate bug that didn't block these other fixes. i kinda hesitate to touch that until OMTD is done or joe decides he needs it for OMTD
# [23:53] <jlebar> khuey: might know. Khuey, see log from cjones above.
# [23:53] <espindola> Waldo: in any case, can you r- then and mark the bug wontfix?
# [23:53] <@ted> don't we have NS_RUNTIMEABORT?
# [23:53] <jlebar> khuey: it's wrt https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836605
# [23:53] <dholbert> seth, (I remember suggesting that before, and it didn't work, but I think it might've been because we didn't have this new magic event that we now have)
# [23:53] <espindola> I will miss the macro, but at least will have on less bug assigned
# [23:53] <seth> dholbert: yeah, it would. it's the simplest fix.
# [23:53] <dholbert> seth, so to a first approximation, I'd suggest doing that
# [23:53] <dholbert> so that our (tweaked) existing tests will pass
# [23:53] <seth> dholbert: yeah, there were two separate issues related to _different_ onload events haha. that's part of why it got so confusing talking about it.
# [23:53] <dholbert> seth, (possibly doing |hg cp| instead of directly modifying the tests)
# [23:54] <espindola> ted: we do. I guess we should just remove the current MOZ_CRASH and rename NS_RUNTIMEABORT
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# [23:54] <@ted> we use MOZ_CRASH elsewhere
# [23:54] <Waldo> ted: yes, but that ropes in XPCOM which JS doesn't want, and I don't think it's safe to use in heap-corruption situations
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# [23:54] <@ted> ah
# [23:54] <seth> dholbert: yeah, that sounds good. i can then disable the original tests temporarily and open a bug about fixing this and reenabling them
# [23:55] <dholbert> seth, that sounds reasonable
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# [23:55] <Waldo> ted: the heap-corruption thing is somewhat esoteric, but it's really nice to have something that can be used when the JS GC detects corruption, say, and will know it won't result in anything exploitable happening
# [23:55] <Waldo> not just JS GC, of course
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# [23:56] <@ted> true
# [23:56] <@ted> we do have aborts in jemalloc
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# [23:56] <@khuey> cjones: still here?
# [23:57] <@khuey> cjones: interfaces/html is before interfaces/app, so the interface is not available (in a clobber) when it wants to be used
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# [23:57] <@khuey> cjones: add interfaces/app to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/html/Makefile.in#99
# [23:57] <@khuey> jlebar: ^
# [23:58] <jlebar> khuey: thanks.
# [23:58] <mounir> why is the tree closed?
# [23:58] <mounir> we should just backout cjones
# [23:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc78c97681fe - Chris Jones - Backed out changeset fed128eb92f3 (bug 836605) for making the IDL gods angry. CLOSED TREE
# [23:58] <cjones> khuey, alright, will give that a shot
# [23:58] <Waldo> mounir: patience, grasshopper :-)
# [23:58] <nemo> do you guys happen to do any ARM linux nightlies?
# [23:59] <nemo> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ naturally does not have 'em
# [23:59] <nemo> but I was hoping they might be elsewhere
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