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# Session Start: Sat Feb 16 00:00:01 2013
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# [00:05] <@smaug> whimboo|afk: asking again :) any chance to get memchaser updated? The sdk leak it so bad that I can't use any addons using the old sdk
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# [00:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eba1ef07a9ad - Trevor Saunders - bug 841928 - fix crash in ia2AccessibleHypertext::get_hyperlink() r=me
# [00:07] <jlebar> Do <script defer>'s block onload?
# [00:07] <jlebar> (In Firefox)
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# [00:10] <@smaug> I'd assume so
# [00:10] <jlebar> hmm
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# [00:10] <Waldo> data:text/html,<script src="data:text/javascript,alert('deferred');" defer></script><script>window.onload = function() { alert('onload'); };</script> seems to say yes
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# [00:10] <jlebar> Waldo: Ah, that's a simple idea. Thanks. :)
# [00:11] <Waldo> which actually surprises me, I'd thought defer was supposed to work around that
# [00:11] <Waldo> jlebar: data URLs are God's gift to developerkind
# [00:11] <Waldo> jlebar: and IE is stupid for not allowing you to enter them by hand :-)
# [00:11] <Waldo> and I hate them every time I'm reminded of this
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# [00:11] <@smaug> Waldo: defer runs after the document has been parsed
# [00:12] <Waldo> smaug: yeah, I guess my memory's just going bad
# [00:12] <Optimizer> to be using IE ... :|
# [00:12] <Waldo> get off my lawn, you kids
# [00:12] <Waldo> Optimizer: if I want to test something in IE... :-\
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# [00:12] <Optimizer> oh no.. the mustache jee chan
# [00:12] <Waldo> and usually something small such that a data: URL works great, or would work great except h8
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# [00:16] <Optimizer> so when I do
# [00:16] <Optimizer> window.addEventListener("mouseover", function(e) window.alert(e.target == ruleView), true);
# [00:16] <Optimizer> EventUtils.synthesizeMouseAtCenter(ruleView, {type: "mouseover"});
# [00:16] <Optimizer> it gives me false.
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# [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0afb667fb4f8 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 831520 - Clear my Metro Firefox History now also clears StartUI. r=mbrubeck
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# [00:24] <@gavin> Optimizer: does "ruleView" have children?
# [00:24] <Optimizer> ruleView is a window element
# [00:24] <@gavin> well then, that makes sense
# [00:24] <@gavin> your click is hitting some content in the window
# [00:24] <@gavin> that would be the target
# [00:25] <Optimizer> but the feature that I am testing also does ruleView.addEventListener("mouseover", something)
# [00:25] <Optimizer> and that something works.
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# [00:25] <Optimizer> so I want to simulate a mouseover to test that something now . and according to the test results, that something did not happen, so trying to add an event lsitener myself to test the test.
# [00:25] <@gavin> the mouseover event bubbles to ruleView
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# [00:26] <@gavin> to simulate a mouseOver with synthesizeEvent you may need to pair it with a mousemove?
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# [00:26] <Optimizer> first mouseover, then mousemove ?
# [00:26] <Optimizer> or otherwise ?
# [00:26] <@gavin> or actually, only send mousemoves
# [00:27] <@gavin> I forget whether mouseover can be fired that way
# [00:27] <Optimizer> tried that too.
# [00:27] <@gavin> I'm not very good at remembering the different event types and such
# [00:27] <Optimizer> it can be, I see many tests doing that
# [00:28] <@gavin> those tests seem to send mouseover+ several mousemoves
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# [00:29] <Optimizer> just did that, same thing.
# [00:29] <@gavin> I got nothing :)
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# [00:57] <@bsmedberg> Is anyone else getting frequent DB lock errors from bugzilla while trying to update bugs?
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# [01:03] <jedp> is there a gecko hacker out there who can answer a question about Services.appShell.hiddenDOMWindow?
# [01:03] <jedp> I'm trying to use this to create an iframe
# [01:03] <jedp> i'm setting mozbrowser = true on it
# [01:04] <jesup> dolske: ping
# [01:04] <@dolske> jesup: hi
# [01:04] <jedp> and appending the iframe to the hiddenDOMWindow.document
# [01:04] <@dolske> reviews? just saw them in my queue. :)
# [01:04] <jedp> but the iframe never fires mozbrowserloadstart
# [01:04] <jedp> and the messageManager on it is null
# [01:05] <jedp> what am i doing wrong?
# [01:05] <fabrice> jedp: on b2g?
# [01:05] <@gavin> bsmedberg-away: I got one the other day during triage
# [01:05] <vingtetun> jedp: is the mozbrowser api enabled?
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# [01:06] <jedp> fabrice, vingtetun this is not b2g; regular desktop firefox
# [01:06] <jedp> vingtetun i don't know about how to enable that api! so i suppose not :) what should i do?
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# [01:07] <@gavin> jedp: why are you creating a hidden iframe, ooc? :)
# [01:07] <@gavin> do you want to be using sandbox.jsm instead?
# [01:07] <jedp> gavin maybe i do want sandbox
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# [01:07] <jesup> dolske: hey, we've made this a non-blocker for now: bug 841940; we found invoking the permission UI (with no entries) in a crashtest seems to leak the world; Jason and I think it's not reasonable to invoke in a crashtest given the lack of normal browser chrome and so we disabled the permission UI for crashtests
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# [01:08] <@dbaron> was there a try reset today?
# [01:08] <vingtetun> jedp: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/app/b2g.js#376 (if you don't want sandbox - there is not many reasons for you to want mozbrowser iframes)
# [01:08] <@dbaron> or some other reason my try push earlier is "not found in branch try"?
# [01:09] <jedp> vingtetun oh thanks - i didn't know that was a pref. cool.
# [01:10] <vingtetun> jedp: ochameau played with it in FF desktop if you want to have more infos
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# [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26b3586e3af4 - Tanvi Vyas - Bug 840641 - Missing Large Shield Icon from Mixed Content Doorhanger. r=dolske
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# [01:10] <jesup> bz: ping
# [01:11] <Waldo> taras: do you moderate blog comments or something? I made a comment earlier about there being a planet blog that's no longer showing up
# [01:12] <jesup> !seen bz
# [01:12] <firebot> bz was last seen 9 hours, 12 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'ok' in #content.
# [01:12] <jesup> jst: ping
# [01:12] <taras> Waldo: hrm
# [01:12] <jedp> vingtetun i was looking at the social api code as an exemplum; it uses the hiddenDOMWindow to create frames for its frame worker
# [01:12] <NeilAway> jaws: hmm, you could make the same filtering argument for href/mSourceLine...
# [01:12] <taras> might be some disqus misconfiguration
# [01:12] <Waldo> oddment
# [01:12] <jst> jesup: pong
# [01:13] <jesup> jst: any chance you can step in to review bug 822674? - we've been waiting on a review from peterv, but I'm guessing he didn't get to it and we need to land it.
# [01:13] <taras> Waldo: i see the comments
# [01:13] * Waldo files "exemplum" away as a nice, obscure word
# [01:14] <Waldo> taras: I'm seeing my first two, but not the one mentioning the planet blog, that was in response to djc
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# [01:15] <jwir3> if I have the following function that I want to call: NS_IMETHODIMP
# [01:15] <jwir3> nsRange::GetBoundingClientRect(nsIDOMClientRect** aResult) what is the parameter that I want to pass into this? I tried getter_AddRefs<nsIDOMClientRect>(rect), where rect is defined as: nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMClientRect> rect;
# [01:15] <jwir3> But, that fails. as does the getter_AddRefs<nsClientRect>(rect), where rect is nsRefPtr<nsClientRect> rect;
# [01:16] <jst> jesup: sure, I in fact already looked at that patch, but decided to let peterv look as well... but since he didn't get to it I'll stamp it. He can still look...
# [01:16] <jesup> jst: thanks!
# [01:16] <taras> Waldo: i think disqus is having issues
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# [01:16] <jst> jesup: done
# [01:16] <Waldo> hmm
# [01:16] <taras> i dont even see the comments on my that blog post
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# [01:16] <taras> in the control panel yet
# [01:17] <Waldo> taras: heresy! single points of failure never fail
# [01:17] <NeilAway> jwir3: the compiler should be able to deduce the type of getter_AddRefs(rect) if rect is nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMClientRect>
# [01:17] <Waldo> sadment
# [01:17] <nbp> man ping
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# [01:17] <jwir3> NeilAway: Ah. So just do getter_AddRefs without the type in <>?
# [01:17] <man> nbp: ping, ping6 - send ICMP ECHO_REQUEST to network hosts
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# [01:17] <NeilAway> man++
# [01:18] <NeilAway> jwir3: should work, I think
# [01:18] <jwir3> NeilAway: ok, let me try that. thx
# [01:18] <Waldo> :-( conference mode means I can't easily tell who man is/was :-(
# [01:18] <Waldo> unless that's a new bot
# [01:19] <@dbaron> man ascii
# [01:19] <@dolske> jesup: by "permission UI" (for 841940) are you talking about the doorhanger or about:permissions?
# [01:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/613836a25f92 - John Ford - Bug 839298 - One True JSON file of build information r=ted
# [01:19] <jedp> vingtetun also, i want to inject privileged js into this iframe - i can't do that with a sandbox, can i?
# [01:20] <jesup> dolske: the doorhanger
# [01:20] <man> dbaron: ascii -- octal, hexadecimal and decimal ASCII character sets
# [01:20] <Mook_as> jedp: remember that the hidden dom window is a HTML document, not a XUL document, so you need to createElementNS (plus all the other things)
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# [01:20] <jedp> Mook_as aha! i'm not doing createElementNS - thank you
# [01:21] <vingtetun> jedp: i don't know much about sandbox but again ochameau knows :)
# [01:21] <Mook_as> jedp: well, the hidden window is html (about:blank) on windows and linux, some xul thing with a menu on mac...
# [01:21] <jedp> vingtetun thanks!
# [01:22] <@dolske> jesup: what's media.navigator.permission.disabled do? autodeny?
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# [01:23] <jesup> dolske: no, it just doesn't pop the doorhanger and selects the default device(s)
# [01:23] <jwir3> NeilAway: Hm. I think that still might not be the right type. I'm getting: error: could not convert 'rect' from 'nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMClientRect>' to 'already_AddRefed<nsIDOMClientRect>'
# [01:23] <jwir3> NeilAway: Other ideas by any chance? ;)
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# [01:23] <jesup> it's slightly poorly named.... (looking at you, anant...) but users shouldn't mess with it; it's mostly for testing
# [01:23] <@dolske> jesup: oh. that's a scary pref to have around!
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# [01:24] <jesup> the android guys use it since they don't have UI
# [01:24] <@dolske> jesup: presuming mochitests are exercising the full-up stuff (ie, using the permission prompt), then disabling it in crashtests is quite fine.
# [01:24] <jesup> (or didn't)
# [01:24] <jesup> social-api demos often use it, though I think they've modified it
# [01:25] <jesup> dolske: thanks
# [01:25] <@dolske> what happens on android then? pages just automatically start using the camera?!
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# [01:25] <@dbaron> I just got a bugzilla locking error too
# [01:25] <jesup> yes. But you need a very special build to have a chance of camera :-) See dmose
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# [01:26] <jedp> Mook_as i think that was the problem - thanks!
# [01:26] <@dolske> ah, so effectively it's not really usuable yet anyway.
# [01:26] <jesup> we just got camera and video calls up on Android; lots of rough edges (and it does have trivial UI now, though it's kinda broken)
# [01:26] <jesup> really looking to just demo it at this point
# [01:26] <@dolske> I'd kind of hope it pref'd off harder just so we don't forget about it and accidentally ship that way, though! :)
# [01:26] <jesup> serious work on android will start in a month or so
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# [01:27] <jedp> Mook_as just to make sure i'm doing it right, ive got mozframetype=content, sandbox=allow-same-origin … are there other things in "all the other things" you mention above? :)
# [01:27] <taras> Waldo: try again? i just submitted a comment, seems to have stuck
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# [01:28] <jesup> I'd never let us ship with the doorhanger disabled... :-) We tried to have the first android webrtc UI meeting this week, but some UX people couldn't make it, so next week
# [01:28] <jesup> It's much more of a pain on android.... especially the persistent indicator
# [01:28] <jesup> and android phones don't have camera lights...
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# [01:29] <Mook_as> jedp: oh, I just meant whatever you normally do want, I tend to use <browser> instead of <iframe> so I dunno what you all do ;)
# [01:29] <NeilAway> jwir3: need bigger code snippet
# [01:30] <Waldo> taras: yeah, I don't have my comment any more to submit it again :-( hopefully djc does and I can copy-paste it into place, otherwise I'll just try to recreate it as best I can
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# [01:30] <jesup> dolske: bug 827145 - still no action on this blocker; have you heard anything from dao on it?
# [01:31] <sfink> Waldo: taras's blog ate my comment too, though in a different way
# [01:31] <taras> Waldo: sorry, this is the first time i've seen disqus swallowing comments
# [01:31] <taras> sfink: grr!
# [01:31] <Waldo> taras: eh, not your fault
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# [01:31] <@dolske> jesup: haven't heard back since I pinged him yesterday.
# [01:31] * Waldo ponders eating pasta
# [01:32] <sfink> taras: yeah, it lost mine when it made me log in. When I logged in, it blanked out the form.
# [01:32] <Waldo> honestly it kind of amazes me that anyone would outsource their comments, rather than having them inside the enclosing site infrastructure
# [01:32] <taras> oh yeah, i instinctively cut/paste things when i see logins
# [01:32] <Waldo> but obviously lots of people like disqus, so
# [01:32] <taras> i had wordpress eat a few blog posts like that
# [01:33] <taras> Waldo: wordpress was really really really bad
# [01:33] <Waldo> it is not a business model I would have bet on taking off
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# [01:33] <taras> plus if there is a decent open source plugin system, it's pretty easy to get the comments back from disqus and switch
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# [01:34] <@dolske> jesup: what's the difference between 802656 and 827145?
# [01:34] <jesup> dolske: :-( that one's less critical, but it's being tracked for FF20, so if it doesn't make uplift we'll need to do aurora and beta uplifts. If it lands asap, we may be able to uplift to aurora and avoid a beta uplift
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# [01:35] <jwir3> NeilAway: does this help? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2143181
# [01:35] <jesup> 802656 was the backend to support Dao's frontend work
# [01:35] <mbrubeck> Waldo: I really like having my site be almost all static, precompiled HTML
# [01:35] <mbrubeck> but since Disqus makes it really easy to add comments to that, I went ahead and added comments.
# [01:35] <Waldo> mbrubeck: except for that third-party script ("other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...")
# [01:35] <mbrubeck> No desire to run my own comment system though.
# [01:35] <jesup> this is a really simple bug
# [01:35] <jesup> dolske: ^
# [01:36] <jld> There's also the option of ahead-of-time processing of comments: https://github.com/mpalmer/jekyll-static-comments
# [01:36] <Waldo> taras: what makes you hate wordpress comments? they seemed to get the job done, only things they didn't give were voting and a centralized profile, but the profile thing I'd have expected them to figure out via gravatar somehow
# [01:36] <mbrubeck> yeah, I should look into that
# [01:36] <jld> (Which I haven't tried, so can't comment on besides knowing that it exists.)
# [01:37] <@dolske> jesup: ah. so the backend now returns an explicit error when there are no A/V devices, so the UI need to watch for that and treat it as a user-denial or something?
# [01:37] <taras> Waldo: massive amount of spam? once i enabled spam controls a portion of my comments would disappear
# [01:37] <mbrubeck> basically I want to host my site in a slashdotting-proof way with a minimum of cost and work.
# [01:37] <taras> Waldo: generally painful command management ui
# [01:37] <mbrubeck> So I pretty much want to either go without comments, or outsource them.
# [01:37] <NeilAway> jwir3: are you sure that's line 40?
# [01:37] <Waldo> taras: oh, this is about the for-business-use-akismet-costs-money thing
# [01:38] <taras> Waldo: even if the spam controls worked, wp was bad for comments :)
# [01:38] <NeilAway> jwir3: none of the code in your paste actually uses already_AddRefed...
# [01:38] <jwir3> NeilAway: guh. You're right.
# [01:38] <jld> Pre-moderating everything will keep spam comments from appearing, but you still might get tons of them sent to you anyway.
# [01:38] <jwir3> NeilAway: it's the return statement that is problematic.
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# [01:38] <NeilAway> jwir3: return rect.forget();
# [01:38] <jwir3> NeilAway: thanks!
# [01:39] <@dolske> jesup: if you can write me a little HTML test case, I'll just go ahead and fix it. it does sound simple...
# [01:39] <NeilAway> jwir3: but at least you don't have the <> after getter_AddRefs ;-)
# [01:39] <taras> Waldo: so just checked again. some comments were in moderation queue, but not yours
# [01:40] <jesup> dolske: thanks. a lot.
# [01:40] <Matti> taras: have you seen bug 841464 ?
# [01:41] <@dolske> jesup: oh, maybe I don't even need a test case.
# [01:41] * @dolske pokes at the keyboard
# [01:41] <taras> Matti: why is it bad?
# [01:41] <taras> nothing secret there
# [01:41] <jesup> Yeah, not really. Just remove your camera and request video using http://mozilla.github.com/webrtc-landing (the gum test page)
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# [01:43] <Matti> taras: I expect that it's invalid
# [01:43] <taras> Matti: what is?
# [01:44] <jaws> NeilAway: just saw your message now, yeah, we should probably start only filtering on href
# [01:44] <Matti> i meant that i expect that the bug is just invalid. I would mark it as such but I'm not sure that i'm missing something lile a security issue there
# [01:45] <jaws> NeilAway: except that href has different implications, someone may want to look for all google.com errors, and if that part got truncated it would make that act impossible
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# [01:47] <jaws> Asa: ping?
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# [01:47] <@dolske> jesup: maybe a dumb question... but why can't the backend return the error directly when there are no A/V devices?
# [01:47] <@dolske> jesup: is the intent that eventually the UI should sit and wait for a device to become available? (hotplug)
# [01:48] <jesup> yes
# [01:48] <jesup> so if I return it directly, we'll have to redo it
# [01:49] <jesup> which we can, but dao preferred this option IIRC. (He had planned to get all the bugs landed in the first two weeks of the year...)
# [01:49] <jesup> we have a separate bug on hotplug for a future release
# [01:50] <jaws> bbondy: ping?
# [01:50] <bbondy> jaws: hi
# [01:50] <jaws> bbondy: do you know the status on the stub installer?
# [01:51] <@dolske> jesup: you have the bug# for hotplug support? I'd like to reference it in the patch.
# [01:51] <jesup> also, I'd have to get the list of devices myself to decide whether to ask the UI to go up; right now the UI is the one asking. This would complicate things considerably (more runnables, more async states)
# [01:51] <jesup> sure
# [01:51] <bbondy> last I heard the conversion wasn't as high as expected so we were adding more telemetry type reporting info to figure out if there are any problems with it
# [01:51] <bbondy> I reviewed a patch which adds even more info to it today
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# [01:52] <jaws> bbondy: i've been looking for a meta bug that shows which bugs need to be fixed before we can start using it, but https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322206 is all i can find
# [01:52] <jaws> ok cool
# [01:52] <bbondy> I'm not sure, rstrong would definitely know more
# [01:52] <jesup> bug 827146
# [01:52] <jaws> k, i'll ask when i see him online
# [01:52] <jaws> thanks!
# [01:52] <bbondy> np
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# [01:52] <NeilAway> jaws: in that case couldn't you back out that part of bug 831020?
# [01:53] <bbondy> jaws: how's michigan?
# [01:53] <nbp> man git
# [01:53] <jaws> bbondy: it's nice, https://twitter.com/weinjared/status/302063149689995264
# [01:53] <man> nbp: git - the stupid content tracker — which is way better than hg
# [01:53] <bbondy> heh :)
# [01:53] <NeilAway> man--
# [01:53] <bbondy> we should do dinner one night I can drive over the border
# [01:54] <jaws> NeilAway: which part are you asking about backing out?
# [01:54] <NeilAway> jaws: the filtering part
# [01:54] <jaws> yes, likewise :)
# [01:54] <bbondy> ah didn't think they'd let you in Canada
# [01:54] <bbondy> jk :)
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# [01:54] <jaws> hehe :)
# [01:54] <jaws> NeilAway: yeah we can back that part of the patch out
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# [01:56] <nbp> man nbp
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# [01:56] <man> bp: nbp - a guy who don't know how to use a mirror
# [01:57] <jhammel> lol
# [01:57] <NeilAway> man man
# [01:57] <jaws> bbondy: i'll message you next time i'll be in detroit. right now i'm working an hour and a half from detroit
# [01:58] <bbondy> ah ok cool
# [01:58] <man> NeilAway: man - format and display the on-line manual pages — and add comments to them.
# [01:58] <jhammel> NeilAway: the man page of man is a stub; see `info man` :P
# [01:58] <NeilAway> !seeb u
# [01:58] <NeilAway> !seen info
# [01:58] <firebot> info was last seen 152 weeks, 3 days, 11 hours, 3 minutes and 47 seconds ago,
# [01:58] <jhammel> lol
# [01:59] <jhammel> no wonder we're lost! we've had no info for three years!
# [01:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39d8916b698b - Randell Jesup - Bug 826044: enable WebRTC crashtests r=jsmith
# [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1f4c2e87acf - Randell Jesup - Bug 835953: Notify UI that all gUM streams for a WindowID are gone r=dolske
# [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/163daa0ef353 - Randell Jesup - Bug 835953: front-end for disabling getUserMedia notification when page stops using it r=dolske
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# [02:06] <jedp> ochameau hi, i'm having trouble getting some privileged js injected into an iframe attached to the hiddenDOMWindow - can you help me figure out what i'm doing wrong?
# [02:07] <vingtetun> (it's 2am friday night here so ochameau could be afk)
# [02:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/533b1bc8ca21 - Luke Wagner - Bug 841619 - Factor out an ArrayBufferObject::changeContents from uninlineData (r=sfink)
# [02:08] <seth> will try jobs on b2g_ics_armv7a_gecko_emulator ever execute? =(
# [02:09] <jedp> vingtetun holy crap - you're right! i completely lost track :)
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# [02:12] <Callek> seth: yes, but it is on our most-starved platform, so you'll have to be very patient
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# [02:12] <seth> as long as there's hope =)
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# [02:13] <Callek> if it hasn't run by monday, we might have a problem :-)
# [02:13] <Callek> s/might/likely/
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# [02:22] <fabrice> jedp: are you looking into the iframe-that-never-dies issue?
# [02:22] <jedp> fabrice actually, no
# [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb6dd685d3a9 - Jared Wein - Bug 841712 - Copy in Error Console has shows source code instead of line number. r=neil
# [02:23] <jedp> fabrice i'm just trying to do the same kind of thing - host a service in an iframe - on desktop firefox, and am getting stuck on silly details
# [02:23] <jedp> fabrice but i'm sure i'll be looking at the iframe-that-never-dies question
# [02:23] <fabrice> jedp: maybe we should come with another solution that hosting in an iframe
# [02:24] <jedp> fabrice sure - i'm happy to look at anything. but i imagine it will be a different situation on desktop - for starters,the iframe's wont be 10MB processes
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# [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b16497a56714 - Christian Sonne - Bug 816254 - Add logging to Downloads Panel r=mak
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# [02:43] <Waldo> NeilAway: being patched now
# [02:43] <Waldo> NeilAway: although, someone is apparently being bad and trying to malloc(0), which is Dumb
# [02:43] <Waldo> NeilAway: and should probably be fixt
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# [02:46] <@dolske> malloc(i)
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# [02:49] <Waldo> dolske: if you don't find any, rotate your computer pi/2 and try again
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# [02:52] <fabrice> jedp: will you be in mv next week? I'd like to understand why we need this hidden iframe at all
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# [02:53] <jedp> fabrice sure! i'd love to come down and talk about it and what other options we have
# [02:53] <fabrice> jedp: can we meet Tuesday?
# [02:54] <jedp> fabrice yes - perfect
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# [02:54] <Waldo> biesi: doesn't <button> give you a way to make anything a button? kinda different from the <input type="button"> case
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# [02:55] <biesi> Waldo: I meant specifically for the case when there is no content
# [02:55] <jedp> fabrice this comment tries to explain the reasoning: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/components/SignInToWebsite.jsm#6
# [02:55] <Waldo> biesi: because nobody thought through that special case, and probably they were right not to :-)
# [02:56] <biesi> I guess
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# [02:59] <RyanVM> jesup: orange
# [03:00] <RyanVM> jesup: PROCESS-CRASH | file:///Users/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/reftest/tests/dom/media/tests/crashtests/837421.html | application crashed [@ sipcc::PeerConnectionMedia::GetTransportFlow(int, bool)]
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# [03:00] <@dolske> jesup: patch+question in 827145, to enjoy along with your orange. ;)
# [03:00] <jesup> ryan: looking
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# [03:09] <RyanVM> yay for Friday night infra problems
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# [03:09] <Callek> RyanVM: elaborate?
# [03:09] <RyanVM> Callek: Resolving ftp.mozilla.org... failed: nodename nor servname provided, or not known.
# [03:10] <Callek> which host(s)?
# [03:10] <Callek> and did it just start, start a while ago, and/or is tree closed
# [03:10] <RyanVM> just started
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# [03:11] <@dbaron> wget: unable to resolve host address `ftp.mozilla.org'
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# [03:12] <jesup> ryanvm: opening some bugs. If they end up being too frequent, we'll disable those tests for now while we investigate
# [03:12] <RyanVM> jesup: multiple failures on your push already
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# [03:13] <Callek> RyanVM: close tree, if you haven't already, haven't heard response yet
# [03:13] <RyanVM> closed
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# [03:15] <jesup> RyanVM: the second one is strange; that looks like some sort of infra issue. And it happened to a non-webrtc test in the same run
# [03:17] <reuben> is MDN super slow for anyone else?
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# [03:22] <RyanVM> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19791480&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [03:26] <philor> le sigh
# [03:27] <RyanVM> jesup: I'm backing you out when the tree re-opens
# [03:28] <jesup> RyanVM: ok. The crashtest-enable patch only, if that's ok.
# [03:28] <RyanVM> k
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# [03:29] <jesup> I already have a prospective patch up for the process-crash. The other one (assertions) I think is a flaw in the test that never showed running on desktop. Looking into it
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# [03:35] <RyanVM> jesup: more fun for ya - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19791923&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [03:35] <jesup> RyanVM: the assertion issue was a known issue
# [03:36] <RyanVM> jesup: easy fix on that one :P
# [03:37] <jesup> ryanVM: sigh. What's the "don't run these crashtests on b2g or android" tweak? Thanks
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# [03:38] <jesup> Double-sigh. Doesn't look like there is one
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# [03:38] * jesup thinks that can't be right
# [03:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5271482ec7cc - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 840154 - Do not release MediaBuffer during OMXCodec is seeking. r=cdouble
# [03:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44567892e06f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 39d8916b698b (bug 826044) for frequent failures.
# [03:39] <RyanVM> jesup: ifdef?
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# [03:43] <@dbaron> jesup, skip-if(Android||B2G)
# [03:43] <@dbaron> jesup, which should be used only if they crash
# [03:43] <@dbaron> jesup, otherwise use asserts-if, fails-if, etc., as appropriate
# [03:43] <jesup> dbaron: the feature isn't enabled there
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# [03:44] <jesup> dbaron: thanks
# [03:44] <@dbaron> jesup, so they still shouldn't crash, right?
# [03:44] <jesup> It's failing on setting the preference :-(
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# [03:44] <@dbaron> jesup, why would that fail?
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# [03:45] <@dbaron> jesup, does all.js fail to have a default value for the preference on all platforms, as it ought to?
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# [03:46] <jesup> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19791923&tree=Mozilla-Inbound The pref is #ifdef WEBRTC like a bunch of things in there
# [03:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71f76fd4fbab - Jesse Ruderman - Bug 840402 - Add some more values to property_database.js. r=dbaron
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# [03:46] <@dbaron> jesup, prefs should always have default values
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# [03:47] <jesup> dbaron: there are like a zillion ifdefs in all.js
# [03:47] <@dbaron> jesup, the font prefs define the same prefs differently for different platforms
# [03:47] <jesup> Platform ones, feature ones etc
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# [03:48] <@dbaron> jesup, I suppose it does make sense to only provide the default value if the feature is built, though
# [03:48] <jesup> Look at all the media MOZ_* ones
# [03:48] <@dbaron> jesup, so I guess that's reasonable
# [03:48] <jesup> k
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# [03:49] <@dbaron> jesup, though maybe that means we should make the reftest harness deal with that case
# [03:49] <jesup> yes please
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# [03:49] <jesup> even better, let you use MOZ_*'s to conditionally run the tests
# [03:49] <RyanVM> jesup: lucky for you, crashtests have fast turnaround time, so you shouldn't have any major issues triggering lots of Try jobs ;)
# [03:49] <@dolske> hmm. incremental builds for webidl are not very. :/
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# [04:08] <@bz> dolske: hmm?
# [04:08] <@bz> dolske: you mean the lack of sane deps or the fact that the entire model is hostile to incremental anything?
# [04:08] <@bz> dolske: we have a patch for the former waiting on reviews
# [04:08] <Jesse> which entire model?
# [04:08] <@bz> dolske: the latter is harder to "fix", obviously. ;)
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# [04:08] <@bz> Jesse: webidl
# [04:09] <@bz> Jesse: the conceptual webidl model is that all IDL from all specs is a single thing
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# [04:09] <@bz> Jesse: which means any spec can refer to things defined in any other spec without formally importing them in any way
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# [04:10] <@bz> Jesse: and you need the sum of all the IDLs available to figure out how to do something with it.
# [04:10] <@bz> Jesse: e.g. any spec can add more members to any existing interface.
# [04:10] <@bz> Jesse: that's defined in any other spec.
# [04:10] <Jesse> so if any webidl file changes, you might have to rebuild all the webidl-based things
# [04:10] <@bz> Jesse: correct
# [04:10] <@bz> Jesse: we _think_ we have a workaround for that
# [04:10] <@dolske> bz: just an idle grump when I did a "make -C dom" after a tiny change in a .cpp and watched that all scroll by slowly.
# [04:11] <@bz> Jesse: as long as we disallow some things in IDL...
# [04:11] <@bz> dolske: hmm
# [04:11] <@bz> dolske: What was scrolling by?
# [04:11] <@bz> dolske: the current failure mode is silent for me, but that might be make -s.....
# [04:11] <@bz> dolske: Still got it in your scrollback?
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# [04:12] <@dolske> bz: stuff like this http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2143592
# [04:12] <@bz> Aha
# [04:12] <@dolske> runs about 3 commands a second, and goes on for a minute or two
# [04:12] <@bz> yes, that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784812
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# [04:13] <@bz> On my machine it goes for a total of about 140s CPU time
# [04:13] <@bz> which is about 35s wall-clock....
# [04:13] <@dolske> ah, nice
# [04:13] <@bz> But obviously your numbers will depend on your -j level and whatnot
# [04:13] <@bz> Anyway, Kyle's patch should fix this part.
# [04:13] <@dolske> I've done my annual twiddling in /dom, so I assume it won't annoy me next year. :D
# [04:13] <@bz> heh
# [04:13] <@bz> The bad thing is...
# [04:13] <@bz> I build that dir dozens of times a day
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# [04:14] <@dolske> :(
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# [04:15] <jesup> bz: ping
# [04:15] <@dolske> I only had to do it a couple of times, then I spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out why "let foo.bar = baz" was a syntax error
# [04:15] <@dolske> (obviously I meant foo.bar = baz, my brain filterd out the let)
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# [04:16] <jesup> bz: the peerconnection bug - jst r+'d it earlier; could you land when you get a chance, or I could land it? Either way
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# [04:18] <@bz> jesup: I was about to push things in the next 10 mins
# [04:18] <@bz> jesup: including that bug
# [04:18] <jesup> bz: excellent, thanks
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# [04:18] <jesup> bz: and thanks for the help
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# [04:18] <@bz> jesup: no problem
# [04:18] <@bz> jesup: It really wasn't that much work given the earlier digging I'd done... ;)
# [04:19] <@dolske> jesup: new patch in 827145 :)
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# [04:20] <jesup> dolske: lookig
# [04:21] <jesup> dolske: r+
# [04:22] <@dolske> bam
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# [04:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8786f346fc6f - Justin Dolske - Bug 827145 - When no A/V devices are available, return that error to the page's getUserMedia callbacks. r=jesup
# [04:26] <Unfocused> so, i can submit my webrtc bugs to dolske now? cool
# [04:26] * @dolske goes to celebrate success with some german sausage, sauerkraut, and beer.
# [04:26] <@dolske> although to be truthful, I would have celebrated failure the same exact way.
# [04:27] <jesup> dolske++
# [04:27] <@dolske> Unfocused: yep! just hold on while I let you rewrite uriloader...
# [04:28] <Unfocused> apparently rewrites are my speciality anyway...
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# [04:38] <@bz> We have a new owner for uriloader?
# [04:38] <@bz> Where do I sign up?
# [04:38] <@bz> (as the no longer owner)
# [04:39] <Unfocused> ...
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# [04:39] <dougt> i think the rule is: the last one that mentions it owns it.
# [04:39] <Callek> bz: they'll move you to printing instead!
# [04:39] <@bz> Callek: gott catch me first!
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# [04:40] <Callek> bz: we could always ask you to implement css3-grid-layout-WD for Firefox 22
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# [04:41] <Callek> ooo its no longer a WD??!?
# [04:41] <Callek> ooo nevermind, it is
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# [04:42] <@bz> Callek: You could, but you can't make me. ;)
# [04:42] <Callek> bz: let me put on my damon mask.... will that work?
# [04:43] <Callek> (too bad I don't have a brendan mask)
# [04:43] <Unfocused> not anymore
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# [04:44] <@bz> Callek: See, I figure I can make an argument against that you can't refuse. ;)
# [04:45] <@bz> jesup: in
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# [04:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fc77f0a35d8 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 822674. Give RTCPeerConnection a sane classinfo. r=jst,jesup. r=peterv pending
# [04:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b29cf09b5182 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 840898. Flag our nullable return value as actually being nullable. r=tbsaunde
# [04:46] <Callek> btw, for anyone who wonders what I mean see-- http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-grid-layout/ . Now if you're a web dev who *ever* fought with |float:| emmediately see the benefits. If you're a dev who *ever* looked at how Gecko implements layout, even roughly, go ahead and cry now.
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# [04:47] <Callek> bz: this is one spec I've been waiting for an implementation on, even for just gecko :-) because it would make some side-projects of mine a lot easier to deal with
# [04:47] <Callek> (if I can assume browser+version anyway)
# [04:47] <Callek> but its also one that I don't see firming up anytime soon, nevermind mind in impl.
# [04:48] <@bz> Callek: flexbox doesn't do what you want?
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# [04:48] <Callek> bz: hrm I haven't looked at the flexbox spec in a long while
# [04:48] <Callek> it actually *might*
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# [04:51] * Callek reads |A ```flex container``` establishes | and I think it does do what I want hearing about flex container
# [04:51] <Jesse> does flexbox let you do things that grid doesn't?
# [04:51] <Callek> I think the grid spec (at earlier drafts anyway) let me flow the HTML doc more semantically than I'd need to in order to support flexbox/float layout though.
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# [05:07] <@bz> Jesse: you mean like flexing?
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# [05:42] <philor> jrmuizel: ping
# [05:43] <jrmuizel> philor: pong
# [05:43] <philor> jrmuizel: am I reading bug 716859 right, that the emulator update didn't actually help?
# [05:43] <jrmuizel> philor: it helped some but not enough
# [05:44] <jrmuizel> it looks like the M1 failure might be gone
# [05:44] <philor> "good", since I think I'm going to have to back it out for failing in mochitest-1
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# [05:44] <philor> gone?
# [05:44] <jrmuizel> philor: back it out of where?
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# [05:44] <jrmuizel> the emulator change?
# [05:45] <philor> jrmuizel: inbound, where every m1 since it landed has failed
# [05:45] <jrmuizel> ah
# [05:45] <jrmuizel> hmmm
# [05:45] <jrmuizel> that's interesting
# [05:45] <jrmuizel> philor: I guess back it out
# [05:46] <philor> k, still waiting on the retriggers below it to run, but they'll turn up green, neither one is even vaguely likely to be at fault
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# [05:48] <@dbaron> philor, they're called Saturday
# [05:48] <jrmuizel> :)
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# [05:51] <jrmuizel> philor: thanks for taking care of that. I'm sure the investigation will yield an interesting result
# [05:51] <philor> dbaron: rumor has it b2g has a deadline Sunday, and Gecko has one Monday, I'm not counting on draining the backlog this weekend
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# [05:52] <philor> though it's going nicely so far, only 615 pending jobs, and just over 13 hours
# [05:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a145f17e37c - Reuben Morais - Bug 836519 - Implement getAll API for contact manager using cursors. r=gwagner
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# [06:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e025b5bdb0e1 - Jim Blandy - Bug 840689: JS GDB support: Don't confuse typedefs with concrete types. r=sfink
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# [06:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/895a7efc978d - David Dahl - Bug 683262 - window.crypto throws if MOZ_DISABLE_DOMCRYPTO is turned on - window.crypto patch r=jst
# [06:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/236ba87c0a9f - David Dahl - Bug 440046 - expose secure PRNG in the DOM (window.crypto.getRandomValues) r=cviecco r=bsmith
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# [06:40] <@dbaron> The patch I'm going to land shortly has some risk of bustage, since it's the sort of patch that can bitrot quickly. (It passed try this morning, though.) Said bustage should also be very easy to fix.
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# [06:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/095bd7117b4e - L. David Baron - Bug 841789, patch 1: Rename nsIFrame::GetStyleContext() to nsIFrame::StyleContext() since it can never return null. r=dholbert
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# [06:53] <philor> is bz_sleep's bustage easy to fix?
# [06:53] <@bz_sleep> looking
# [06:53] <@bz_sleep> The Android m4?
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# [06:54] <philor> yeah
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# [06:54] <@bz_sleep> let me check what the hell is going on with the shit
# [06:54] <@bz_sleep> I mean, worst case I disable my test
# [06:55] <@bz_sleep> But this should work
# [06:55] <@bz_sleep> in theory
# [06:55] <@bz_sleep> Unless something really bizarre is up
# [06:55] <@bz_sleep> jesup: ping
# [06:55] <jesup> pong
# [06:56] <jesup> what's the link?
# [06:56] <@bz_sleep> 5729 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/dom/media/tests/mochitest/test_peerConnection_bug822674.html | Unexpected error callback with ReferenceError: mozRTCPeerConnection is not defined
# [06:56] <@bz_sleep> On Android only
# [06:56] <@bz_sleep> Do we not have peerconnection there or something?
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# [06:57] <@bz_sleep> And if so, how do the other tests in that dir manage to pass?
# [06:57] <jesup> bz_sleep: no, no peerconnections on b2g or android yet. Not for another rev or two
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# [06:57] <@bz_sleep> jesup: ok, then how the heck is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/media/tests/mochitest/test_peerConnection_bug825703.html?force=1 passing?
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# [06:58] <@bz_sleep> jesup: also why are you awake? ;)
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# [06:58] <Unfocused> .... says bz_sleep
# [06:58] <@bz_sleep> 5731 INFO TEST-START | /tests/dom/media/tests/mochitest/test_peerConnection_bug825703.html
# [06:58] <@bz_sleep> 5732 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/media/tests/mochitest/test_peerConnection_bug825703.html | Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Mobile; rv:21.0) Gecko/21.0 Firefox/21.0 currently not supported
# [06:58] <jesup> I ahve no freaking idea - I'm brainburned
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# [06:58] <@bz_sleep> Unfocused: yes, but I'm a known moron
# [06:58] <Unfocused> hah
# [06:58] <jesup> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/media/tests/mochitest/head.js
# [06:59] <jesup> and now you know
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# [06:59] <@bz_sleep> jesup: mmm
# [06:59] <@bz_sleep> jesup: oh, I have to pass "true"?
# [06:59] <@bz_sleep> jesup: <sigh>
# [06:59] * @bz_sleep fixes
# [06:59] <jesup> yeah, it's a pain, but lets us disable them for platforms it's not preffed on
# [07:00] <@bz_sleep> yeah
# [07:00] <jesup> crashtests are a little more fun
# [07:00] <@bz_sleep> but why the optional argument?
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# [07:00] <@bz_sleep> Are there tests that want to pass false?
# [07:00] <@bz_sleep> anyway
# [07:00] * philor waits to rebase his backout instead of racing to get oranges on it
# [07:00] <jesup> don't ask me..... jsmith and whimboo came up with it. And there may be in the future I guess
# [07:01] <jesup> We're going to majorly revamp all that
# [07:01] <@bz_sleep> philor: fix coming up in 30 secs
# [07:02] * @bz_sleep claims r=jesup
# [07:02] * jesup was sucked into responding to some people in the IETF who reopened stuff we settled on a year ago more or less, and we've had working in FF since Oct
# [07:02] <philor> no hurry, this backout has been waiting between 7 and 9 hours, depending on how you count
# [07:02] <jesup> r+ anything
# [07:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bfd9a8702ef - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 822674 followup to disable this test on Android. r=jesup
# [07:02] <@bz_sleep> philor: oh, not a backout of my patch? ;)
# [07:02] * @bz_sleep doesn't care then
# [07:03] <philor> bz_sleep: no, b2g, the 6 foot long thorn in my side
# [07:03] <@bz_sleep> I mean, try to not back out the reflow branch or anything
# [07:03] <@bz_sleep> philor: you're backing out all of b2g?
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# [07:03] <@bz_sleep> philor: I can just see the slashdot headlines!
# [07:04] <jesup> a year+ of discussion, lack of controversy after the initial emails deciding to look like WebSockets - and *now* microsoft/Skype wants to reopen the entire discussion
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# [07:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25f6e7b84a8c - Phil Ringnalda - Backout 727072808d9f (bug 841836) for b2g mochitest-1 failures
# [07:04] <@bz_sleep> jesup: Ah, the standards process.
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# [07:05] <@bz_sleep> philor: funtimes
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# [07:06] <jesup> They took advantage of confusion created when a new guy at Google said "why aren't you doing everything in SDP? Why this wireline protocol? I like SDP" at the Interim. Now we're having all the same discussions as a year ago, but this time I'm way to busy whack-a-bugging ....
# [07:06] <@bz_sleep> jesup: :(
# [07:07] <@bz_sleep> jesup: The failure mode is new guys.
# [07:07] <@bz_sleep> jesup: And people liking stuff.
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# [07:07] * @bz_sleep thinks "Leave your likes at the door" should go hand in hand with "leave your sense of logic at the door"
# [07:08] <@dbaron> also leave the like buttons at the door
# [07:08] <@dbaron> and their however many hundreds of kilobytes of script, with timeouts running all the time
# [07:09] <@dbaron> I really need to get back to my plan to write "top" for the browser
# [07:09] <jesup> I have a fully (or close) debugged DataChannels impl with people using it for Social API, for FPS shooters in WebGL, etc - and it works
# [07:09] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/wallflower-1/ if it doesn't leak anymore
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# [07:09] <jesup> dbaron: and my JS scheduler
# [07:09] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: We really need that "top" thing...
# [07:10] <jesup> I need to find which tab is eating my CPU/battery!
# [07:10] <@dbaron> I mean, I run the equivalent of top in gdb once a week or so when my session gets bogged down
# [07:10] <jesup> (or memory)
# [07:10] <@dbaron> but that doesn't scale to normal users
# [07:10] <@bz_sleep> jesup: memory we can do now, usually
# [07:10] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: yeah
# [07:10] <jesup> yeah
# [07:10] <@dbaron> jesup, about:memory
# [07:10] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: Chrome can sorta do it, if it gets lucky
# [07:10] <jesup> I was involved ;-0
# [07:10] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: but yeah, we need to do better
# [07:11] <jesup> No time anymore for memshrink stuff until WebRTC quiets down in a year or two
# [07:11] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: At least basic "we spent this much time in the last N seconds in script on these pages" stuff
# [07:11] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, yeah, that's what I want
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# [07:11] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, basically I want some simple instrumentation hooks in event processing, where I can associate the events with a docshell/document/whatever
# [07:12] <@bz_sleep> froydnj's thing might help
# [07:12] <@dbaron> when I do the equivalent of "top" in gdb, it usually turns out to be news articles that are taking all the CPU
# [07:12] <@bz_sleep> if he ever gets it working
# [07:12] <@dbaron> what is it?
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# [07:12] <@bz_sleep> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715376
# [07:12] <@bz_sleep> Basically per-document event queues
# [07:13] <@bz_sleep> so events are ... very much associated with a document
# [07:13] <@dbaron> ok, I think I've now done all of the de-Get-ification in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781360 except for the hard one, GetStyle*
# [07:13] <@bz_sleep> (there are some complications in terms of subframes needing to use the parent's event queue etc)
# [07:13] <@bz_sleep> So maybe it won't help that much
# [07:13] <@bz_sleep> ok
# [07:13] <@bz_sleep> I should really sleep
# [07:14] <@dbaron> I thought you already were :-)
# [07:14] * @bz_sleep is trying to be good and stay on this sorta-dayshifted schedule he managed to get onto by going to England
# [07:14] <jesup> taras and I discussed some type of JS scheduler. Not sure it will help that much, but might improve on the background throtting
# [07:14] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: contrary to popular believe, I do not in fact fix bugs and push to inbound in my sleep. ;)
# [07:14] <@bz_sleep> er, belief.
# [07:14] * @bz_sleep may not be asleep, but is tired.
# [07:14] <taras> jesup: yeah nathan is working on stuff for that
# [07:14] <@dbaron> also contrary to your IRC nick
# [07:15] <@bz_sleep> On which not, g'night all. My irc nick will now stop being a veiled attempt to get people to not bug me. ;)
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# [07:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3e41bbb40a5 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 835022 - Switch to correct tab when a tab is closed. r=mfinkle
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# [07:55] <reuben> philor, >_>
# [07:56] <reuben> philor, why would that test fail *only* only winxp opt…
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# [07:56] <reuben> only on*
# [07:56] <reuben> hint: there's no reason
# [07:56] <philor> yeah, usually if it's going to be XP, it'll be debug because that's our slowest platform
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# [07:58] <@dbaron> reuben, oh, there's probably a reason. You just might not like it. :-P
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# [07:58] <reuben> hah, and it fails on the test least likely to fail
# [07:59] <reuben> it does the same thing 20 times. only the 18th one failed.
# [07:59] <reuben> can I re-trigger somehow?
# [08:00] <reuben> dbaron, this patch has given me so many headaches that even if it passed I wouldn't like it that much
# [08:00] <philor> see that grey 2 next to the orange one? that's because I already did
# [08:01] <reuben> <3
# [08:01] <philor> but there's absolutely nothing that will make me feel good about "yeah, the test failed on the push that landed it"
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# [08:06] <philor> oh, there is something better than the way we burn 90 minutes of time on the slaves we're shortest on in order to run 10 minutes of actual reftest-sanity tests
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# [08:06] <philor> the way that we still do it on twice-a-day nightlies on the tip push of the closed b2g18-v1_0_0 branch
# [08:07] <@dolske> dbaron: top for the browser? yes, please.
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# [08:10] <reuben> \o/
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# [09:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/494483cbe311 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 840902. Part 1: Stop checking the results of various display list methods. r=mattwoodrow
# [09:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37cb11f41bb2 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 840902. Part 2: Remove nsresults from various display list methods. r=mattwoodrow
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# [09:39] <Waldo> hey all, I'm going to back out 7a145f17e37c now -- seems nobody's noticed, but it seems to have intermittently introduced "ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/dom/contacts/tests/test_contacts_getall.html | cursor 18 returned 20 contacts - got 19, expected 20 "
# [09:40] <Waldo> that test being new as part of that push
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# [09:47] <firebot> Check-in:
# [09:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eee6e9f4738c - Jeff Walden - Bug 836519 - Back out 7a145f17e37c for intermittent 'dom/contacts/tests/test_contacts_getall.html | 19 contacts returned - got 20, expected 19' in the test it added.
# [09:47] <firebot> r=intermittent-orange
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# [09:51] <Ms2ger> Did we seriously land getRandomValues?
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# [09:53] <Waldo> maybe?
# [09:53] <Waldo> I am about ~250 messages and two years behind on that bugmail thread
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# [09:57] <Callek> Ms2ger: who landed it, why?
# [09:58] <Ms2ger> Ah, no, my faith is restored
# [09:58] <Ms2ger> It was backed out
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# [10:03] <Waldo> Ms2ger: want to die a little inside reviewing mozilla::Abs? :-\
# [10:04] <Ms2ger> Sure
# [10:04] <Ms2ger> Alright, "keyframesRule.appendRule is not a function"
# [10:04] <Ms2ger> Who did that?
# [10:05] <sierk> Hi Folks! Anybody her from mozilla, who can say s.th. to a specific bug concerning silent update on the Mac?
# [10:05] <Ms2ger> Not me
# [10:06] * Ms2ger looks highly suspiciously at dbaron
# [10:07] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, why suspiciously?
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# [10:07] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, it was quite intentional
# [10:07] <Ms2ger> The M5 oranges?
# [10:07] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841896
# [10:07] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, where?
# [10:08] * @dbaron sees plenty of M5 runs on his push, and no oranges
# [10:08] <Ms2ger> Inbound, on philor's push
# [10:08] <Ms2ger> But only there, for some reason?
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# [10:08] <@dbaron> did philor mess up a backout?
# [10:09] <Ms2ger> The diff suggests not, unless...
# [10:09] <@dbaron> because that's basically what I saw before I corrected the tests
# [10:10] <Ms2ger> Wait, so
# [10:10] <Ms2ger> appendRule should be the *new* function, no?
# [10:10] <@dbaron> yes
# [10:10] <@dbaron> so really it's the inverse of what I saw before I corrected the tests
# [10:11] <@dbaron> It's like that push is using the old code with the new tests
# [10:11] <Ms2ger> But the IDL on his push is correct: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/d72db9163971/dom/interfaces/css/nsIDOMMozCSSKeyframesRule.idl
# [10:11] * Ms2ger is baffled
# [10:11] <Waldo> lovely
# [10:11] <Waldo> needs clobbering?
# [10:12] <Waldo> if you have half-borken objdirs with test files in them, it's not implausible, maybe
# [10:12] <Ms2ger> I was starting to think in that direction, yes
# [10:12] <Waldo> although note I am pretty close to asleep now, so double-check any logic I try to work through right at this moment (an hour or so earlier should still be fine)
# [10:13] <@dbaron> the dependency stuff to handle that in the build system has been solid for quite a while
# [10:13] <@dbaron> unless, say, there was an NTP fluke
# [10:14] <@dbaron> did the tester download the correct build
# [10:14] <@dbaron> ?
# [10:14] <Ms2ger> Good question
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# [10:15] <Ms2ger> It certainly thinks it built from d72db9163971
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# [10:16] <@dbaron> the .txt file next to the build it downloaded is correct
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# [10:17] <@dbaron> anyway, I'm going to claim that a backout doesn't make any sense
# [10:17] <@dbaron> and go to sleep because I need to
# [10:18] <Ms2ger> Good night
# [10:19] <Waldo> in other surprising developments, apparently if you #include <cmath> but not <cstdlib> with libstdc++, you get a |double std::abs(any integer type even including unsigned types)| overload
# [10:19] <Waldo> versus the |X std::abs(X)| overload for X being a signed integer type, that the standard's supposed to require, or something
# [10:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0737c3c8f19 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 841812 - Avoid crashing when changing attributes on an invalidly parented <textPath>. r=roc
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# [10:20] <Waldo> except for calling a builtin that does floating-point absolute values, which might get optimized away anyway, and except for type matching in parameter calls, function pointer types, and the like, this probably doesn't matter much in practice
# [10:21] <Ms2ger> "Mozilla Persona: A Better Way to Sign In"
# [10:21] <Ms2ger> Oh really?
# [10:21] <Waldo> Ms2ger: you don't like it?
# [10:22] <Ms2ger> I dunno, a new page and a popup doesn't feel "better" to me
# [10:22] * Waldo finds it reasonably satisfying, modulo not seeing much in the way of UI to switch a site login to a different email address, from within the site
# [10:22] <Waldo> which has mattered on rare occasions for me
# [10:23] <@dbaron> I think bnicholson broke robocop tests
# [10:23] <Ms2ger> Excellent
# [10:23] <@dbaron> The lack of password manager support bothers me more.
# [10:23] <Ms2ger> So, the Fedora opt build on d72db9163971 does support insertRule instead of appendRule...
# [10:24] <Ms2ger> I'm just going to say clobber
# [10:24] <Waldo> dbaron: as in Master Password integration? or something else?
# [10:24] <@dbaron> Waldo, as in password autofill
# [10:25] <Waldo> dbaron: well, you get it in the popup page, but yeah, I think they're still getting buy-in before moving it to an in-browser implementation
# [10:25] <Waldo> if I'm understanding correctly
# [10:25] <@dbaron> Waldo, I don't get it in the popup page
# [10:25] <Waldo> odd
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# [10:25] <Ms2ger> I don't think I get it either
# [10:25] <reuben> Waldo, thanks :/
# [10:26] <Waldo> dbaron: it is not impossible that I DOM-inspector'd my way into removing an autocorrect=off or something
# [10:26] <Waldo> reuben: no worries, just glad it was visible early, before it wasted much of anyone's time
# [10:26] <Waldo> async is hard
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# [10:27] <@dbaron> Waldo, I think there's a special way to fill it out such that it gets saved... and then once it's saved it'll get filled in, but the problem is that the default way doesn't lead to it getting saved.
# [10:28] <Waldo> ...hmm, now I'm not getting formfill on it
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> And java.util.ConcurrentModificationException at java.util.HashMap$HashIterator.nextEntry really is what I wanted to see now...
# [10:28] <Waldo> or maybe I'm getting it filled in sometimes but not always
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> bnicholson, ping
# [10:29] <Waldo> dbaron: yeah, killing the autofoo=off thing will get it saved, I use that all the time on sites that think they know better than I do
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# [10:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00c09b326fee - Ms2ger - Backout bug 828349, bug 835022 for robocop orange and exception from Tabs.getDisplayCount.
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# [10:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/014e88baa216 - Ms2ger - Merge backout on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [10:45] <gaston> what is it with all the tree closures those days ?
# [10:46] <gaston> i can understand for the m-a/m-b/m-r merges but for m-c/m-i ?
# [10:47] <Optimizer> For some reason , https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4966270 is not working
# [10:47] <Optimizer> the flow is not going inside the event handler
# [10:47] <Ms2ger> We've permanently got hundred of pending test runs on Fedora32 / B2G
# [10:47] <Ms2ger> hundreds*
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# [10:48] <gaston> ah so infra pressure
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# [10:49] <Ms2ger> Primarily, yes
# [10:49] <Ms2ger> And sheriffs closing more quickly
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# [11:06] <RattyAway> symbols.def : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol vpx_codec_vp8_cx
# [11:06] <RattyAway> gkmedias.lib : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
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# [12:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d79b1d835861 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 841828 - Show the appropriate cursor on disabled text fields. r=bz
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# [12:05] <mounir> Ms2ger: I'm not sure why m-i should stay closed
# [12:06] <Ms2ger> mounir, can you please ask before opening?
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# [12:06] <mounir> Ms2ger: the reason in the text wasn't valid
# [12:07] <mounir> Ms2ger: it was about "waiting for a green tip"
# [12:07] <mounir> the tip is green (, though, there seem to have a few random oranges that pop up frequently)
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> In particular, the robocop failures the backout was supposed to fix
# [12:08] <mounir> and btw, this is quite a pain that m-i is closed so ofte
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> Indeed
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> I'd love less busted commits too
# [12:09] <mounir> a test failure shouldn't block the tree
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# [12:19] <gaston> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; OpenBSD macppc; rv:21.0) Gecko/20130212 Firefox/21.0
# [12:19] <gaston> \o/
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# [12:19] <gaston> it wurks
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# [12:29] <gaston> i suppose there's been a heavy bikeshedding on that but it's on purpose that there's no a1/a2/bX in the version numbers in the UA ?
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# [12:34] <dao> gaston: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572659
# [12:35] <gaston> thx :)
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# [13:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43fff0313a81 - Dão Gottwald - Backed out changeset 163daa0ef353
# [13:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/746971bdb5c0 - Dão Gottwald - merge backout
# [13:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02a865a0077e - Dão Gottwald - Bug 835953 - Remove browser-specific notification when a page releases webcam/microphone access. r=dolske
# [13:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d34f9a0a1bf - Dão Gottwald - Bug 841714 - Set the 'validate' attribute directly on tab-icon-image rather than inheriting it from the tab. r=gavin
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# [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2eba5f66565a - Alfred Kayser - Bug 405407 - Merge nsDiskCacheStreamIO and nsDiskCacheStreamOutput (v10). r=michal.novotny
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# [16:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/159954333c5e - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 839529 (Remove various CC participants that don't do anything). r=smaug.
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# [17:30] <Optimizer> wg9s: its an honest misinterpretation. although we would not go as far as checking in to remove people from CC list ;)
# [17:31] <wg9s> Optimizer: I knw. that is why I was intrigued enough to click on the bug and realized my mistake.
# [17:32] <Optimizer> -.-
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# [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fae6592d663 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 841873 test changes: Tweak reftests/mochitests/crashtests to remove assumptions about the flexbox pref's default setting. (test-only)
# [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b682c1433cbf - Daniel Holbert - Bug 841873: Pref off CSS3 flexbox in release builds, by default. r=dbaron
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# [19:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7db39954cc10 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 838256, part 2 - Overhaul and complete the layout pieces for <input type=range>. r=dholbert for the combined diff with the previous changeset.
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# [19:33] <philor> interesting, I broke building b2g with a crashtest annotation?
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# [19:35] <Ms2ger> Sounds like par for the course
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# [19:45] <Optimizer> how to make a xul label respect rtl ?
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# [19:46] <Optimizer> I have a hbox with 3 labels for ex. [abc][def][geh]
# [19:46] <Optimizer> with "abc" being the value on the first label and likewise
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# [19:46] <Optimizer> when I change my direction to rtl, the content of hbox are like : [geh][def][abc]
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# [19:47] <Optimizer> now the issue here is that "abcdef" is a full complete word which makes no sense when written as "defabc"
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# [19:50] <philor> the sudden outbreak of failures in test_signed_apps.js on multiple trees is also nice
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# [19:51] <dholbert> did a signature expire or something?
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# [19:54] <philor> dunno, bsmith?
# [19:54] <bsmith> philor: what's the question?
# [19:54] <philor> did your certs for test_signed_apps.js expire already? it's failing all over the place
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# [19:56] <dholbert> yup http://james-ross.co.uk/mozilla/misc/nserror?0x805A1FF5
# [19:56] <dholbert> SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE
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# [19:57] <romaxa> how to disable FF notification about switching back to google search from my lovely Bing ? :)
# [19:57] <dholbert> (the error is "test_signed_apps.js | 2153390069 == 0" when checking a nsresult)
# [19:57] <bsmith> Yes.
# [19:57] <bsmith> I will fix it now.
# [19:58] <dholbert> good man
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# [19:58] <romaxa> dholbert: ^
# [19:58] <dholbert> romaxa, no idea
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# [19:59] <romaxa> dholbert: do you know who might have idea?
# [20:00] <dholbert> romaxa, not really; I don't know anything about the notification you're talking about. Sounds front-end-ish, though, so maybe gavin?
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# [20:01] <romaxa> dholbert: I'm changing default search engine from google to bing and FF annoying me to switch back to google
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# [20:01] <romaxa> gavin: ^
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# [20:02] <Matti> that the new search anti-hijack feature
# [20:02] <dholbert> romaxa, I understood that much; I just don't know anything about that dialog
# [20:02] <dholbert> (or notification or whatever)
# [20:02] <bsmith> Matti: what is the bug number for that feature?
# [20:02] <philor> bsmith: be sure to fix it via time machine, since that means it's now impossible to have xpcshell pass on any revision which landed in the last 90 days
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# [20:03] <Archaeopteryx> bug 718088
# [20:04] <bsmith> philor: I could hg strip m-c, I guess
# [20:04] <Optimizer> no rtl expert ?
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# [20:05] <Matti> bsmith: bug 718088
# [20:05] <RyanVM> philor: ping
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# [20:07] <philor> RyanVM: pong
# [20:08] <RyanVM> philor: looks like possible infra issues?
# [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62619edc3226 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 826072 - Dispatch Init() out of nsGonkCameraControl's constructor. r=mikeh
# [20:09] <philor> bsmith: every time we've stripped, we've wound up with a broken repo, we probably just need to call those three months broken and do something else
# [20:09] <@dbaron> I really need to write that blog entry "So, you want a continuous integration test?"
# [20:09] <philor> what did we do with the other expiring certs? I know we have others, back in the day when 1.9.2 existed
# [20:10] <bsmith> philor: sorry, I was just joking.
# [20:10] <@dbaron> philor, I think we made most of the others expire in 10 years
# [20:10] <bsmith> I can set the expiration time to any value for these tests
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# [20:10] <philor> RyanVM: the b2g builds? infra or some other externality besides the two we TinderboxPrint
# [20:10] <bsmith> for the tests that test the actual certs used on marketplace.firefox.com, then there will be a problem every ~5 years or so.
# [20:11] <RyanVM> the b2g stuff, and I guess you're discussing the xpcshell failures now (yay being late to the convo)
# [20:11] <bsmith> But, IMO, it is more important to make sure the marketplace stuff works than to make sure our tests run correctly years from now.
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# [20:11] <bsmith> This specific issue was just a missing "-v 240" parameter in a script
# [20:11] <@dbaron> speaking of bustage, what did philor do to break B2G?
# [20:11] <philor> :D
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# [20:12] <@dbaron> or is it that the B2G builds depend on some external l10n repo?
# [20:12] <philor> I can tell you exactly what I did: I allowed builds on our Gecko tree which pull hundreds of things not in the tree
# [20:12] <philor> they depend on all sorts of things
# [20:13] <philor> many of which you may not gaze upon
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# [20:14] <bsmith> philor: Nobody filed a bug about the cert expiration build bustage, right?
# [20:14] <philor> bsmith: right
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# [20:18] <@dbaron> philor, I'm gonna close inbound unless you object
# [20:19] <philor> dbaron: s/inbound/every tree that builds b2g/ or s/inbound/every tree that's merged from m-c since last November/ ?
# [20:19] <philor> or both?
# [20:19] <@dbaron> philor, well, yeah, but inbound is the one that people aren't required to look at before pushing
# [20:19] <philor> hahaha
# [20:20] <@dbaron> philor, it's also the only one that would otherwise accumulate a half dozen pushes in the next hour
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# [20:21] <@dbaron> 10:43:44 INFO - UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xfc in position 8: invalid start byte
# [20:21] <@dbaron> if only it said what file that was in
# [20:21] <@dbaron> (this is the B2G multilocale bustage)
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# [20:22] <philor> test_signed_apps.js is on aurora
# [20:23] <@dbaron> ooh, http://hg.mozilla.org/gaia-l10n/?sort=lastchange
# [20:23] <@dbaron> I bet it's the german changes
# [20:23] <@dbaron> let's see what's not UTF-8
# [20:24] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/gaia-l10n/de/rev/4a96c1dc1e3f
# [20:24] <RyanVM> dbaron sounds like he's having way too much fun doing this
# [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ff193fc3dc7d - Brian Smith - Bug 842064: Fix build bustage caused by expired certificates in test_signed_apps.js, a=bustage, a=testonly
# [20:25] * philor needs to take lessons in seeing this as a challenge, rather than as the inevitable pain in the ass fuckup result of having made ill-considered decisions about the tree
# [20:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd897af2dd47 - Brian Smith - Bug 842064: Fix build bustage caused by expired certificates in test_signed_apps.js on a CLOSED TREE, a=bustage, a=testonly
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# [20:29] <bsmith> philor: I am going to push this patch to every single branch (inbound, central are done, aurora, beta, b2g-* now)
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# [20:30] <philor> bsmith: thanks
# [20:30] <@dbaron> ok, if my theory about the B2G thing is correct, it should be fixed now
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# [20:30] <@dbaron> I'll retrigger one of the old builds, I guess
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# [20:32] <philor> bsmith: not beta
# [20:32] <@dbaron> I'll wait to confirm that it works before sending the nasty emails.
# [20:32] <bsmith> You were 15 seconds too late
# [20:32] <@dbaron> And also eat breakfast.
# [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/eaebe0a84886 - Brian Smith - Bug 842064: Fix build bustage caused by expired certificates in test_signed_apps.js on a CLOSED TREE, a=bustage, a=testonly
# [20:32] <bsmith> philor ^
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# [20:32] <yzen> Yoric: hi, let me know what you think about bug 777712 when you have time; and if i should push it to try. thanks
# [20:32] <@dbaron> http://hg.mozilla.org/gaia-l10n/de/rev/26eaf0fd22d0 is what I think should fix it
# [20:32] <philor> bsmith: it's already gone from there, that code's already merged to release
# [20:33] <Yoric> yzen: ok
# [20:33] <bsmith> philor: don't I need to also push it to release?
# [20:33] <bsmith> because the tests will start failing there too
# [20:33] <philor> yes
# [20:34] <dholbert> bsmith, lol @ "We should all be retired by that point and then it will be somebody else's problem for sure."
# [20:34] <dholbert> ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842064 )
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# [20:37] <KaiRo> bsmith: well, beta just doesn't matter at this point in time
# [20:38] <KaiRo> it's the interesting time where beta has a kinda "blackout"
# [20:38] <yzen> Yoric: thanks :)
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# [20:40] <evilpie> how can you look at hidden builds?
# [20:41] <RyanVM> evilpie - &noignore=1
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# [20:42] <evilpie> no wonder awesomebar didn't pick up "hide" "hidden" blub
# [20:42] <RyanVM> bsmith - I don't think you need to worry about b2g18_v1_0_0 at this point either
# [20:42] <evilpie> thanks1
# [20:42] <RyanVM> I would check with lsblakk or akeybl on that
# [20:43] <bsmith> RyanVM: which b2g branches do I need to land on?
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# [20:43] <RyanVM> b2g18 and b2g18_v1_0_1
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# [20:43] <@dbaron> philor, bsmith, if the b2g builds don't go red in the next 5-10 minutes, I'll reopen inbound on the assumption that bsmith's fix is correct
# [20:44] <bsmith> dbaron: FWIW, I did verify that without my patch, the test fails locally, and with it, the tests pass
# [20:44] <@dbaron> bsmith, good :-)
# [20:45] <evilpie> RyanVM: do you know where we build "SpiderMonkey --enable-root-analysis Build" ?
# [20:45] <RyanVM> m-c I think?
# [20:45] <Ms2ger> Inbound and try too
# [20:45] <Ms2ger> But only if you touch js/src
# [20:46] <evilpie> ah okay that solves the mystery
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# [20:54] <RyanVM> bsmith: OK to call that FIXED now?
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# [20:55] <bsmith> RyanVM: Sure
# [20:55] <RyanVM> bsmith: also, esr17?
# [20:56] <bsmith> RyanVM: Not in ESR 17
# [20:56] <RyanVM> perfect, thanks
# [20:56] <bsmith> the test isn't in ESR 17, I mean
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# [21:01] <jst> bsmith: how familiar are you with our ipdl setup? ddahl and I could use some help looking over the latest patch in the getRandomValues() bug (673432)
# [21:03] <bsmith> jst: I cannot work on that now. I have a friend waiting for me.
# [21:03] <bsmith> I will look at it tonight.
# [21:04] <jst> bsmith: ok, thanks for looking later, no immediate rush there!
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# [21:18] <@dbaron> Is there a bugzilla keyword for bugs that help sheriffing?
# [21:18] <@dbaron> maybe sheriffing-untriaged ?
# [21:21] <@dbaron> anyway, part 1 of response to b2g red is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842070
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# [21:27] <@dbaron> fortunately I wrote it with sed so I can just rewrite it with sed
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# [21:37] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, btw, was there any useful conclusion with the bizarre insertRule/appendRule orange about 11 hours ago?
# [21:37] <Ms2ger> Clobber worked
# [21:37] <Ms2ger> I haven't investigated further
# [21:37] <Archaeopteryx> dbaron: thank you for the fixes and sorry for the bustage
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# [21:39] <Archaeopteryx> sorry, i hadn't thought of files yet without non-ascii characters being ansi
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# [22:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9522b45f9ef9 - L. David Baron - Bug 781360 patch 2: Rename nsRuleNode::GetPresContext to PresContext, since it can never return null. r=dholbert
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# [22:38] <avih> vlad: dot a minute?
# [22:38] <avih> got* :)
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# [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81fac90f0e9f - L. David Baron - Bug 781360 patch 4: Remove the Get from nsStyleContext::GetStyleData and nsIFrame::GetStyleDataExternal, which never return null. r=dholbert
# [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/343315251a40 - L. David Baron - Bug 781360 patch 3: Rename {nsIFrame,nsStyleContext,nsComputedDOMStyle}::GetStyle* to Style*, since they can never return null. r=dholbert
# [22:56] <@smaug> woohoo, metrics has time range
# [22:56] <@smaug> finally
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# [23:05] <reuben> I found a reproducible crash (at least on OS X) in bug 842079. layout people might be interested
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# [23:10] <@dbaron> reuben, do you know if it's a recent regression?
# [23:10] <@dbaron> (I don't see it on today's nightly on Linux.)
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# [23:14] <Matti> reuben: wfm on windows
# [23:14] <wg9s> and WFM on Linux also
# [23:15] <wg9s> could be OSX only I suppose.
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# [23:16] <wg9s> Or maybe add-on related.
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# [23:21] <Matti> wfm with todays nightly on OSX
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# [23:30] <jwq> bsmedberg_: Re Bug 187421 which you just resolved incomplete. What do you see when you visit <http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.DImg?Docid=08123677&PageNum=1&IDKey=A202AF617F39&ImgFormat=tif>?
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# [23:31] <jwq> That's the offending TIFF embedded in a frame in the USPTO page. It displays blank for me.
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# [23:38] <kaie> I propose to move the "future" table on https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar to the top, allowing one to see the upcoming branch dates sooner.
# [23:39] <kaie> mbrubeck, ^^
# [23:40] <kaie> just a thought, thanks for considering
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