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  10. # [00:12] <ddahl> what $(OS_TARGET) would b2g be?
  11. # [00:13] <ddahl> (trying to turn off some mochitests in b2g)
  12. # [00:18] <reuben> hm, it's reproducible on a fresh profile for me
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  18. # [00:21] <reuben> Matti, I doubt it's related, but are you on a retina display mac?
  19. # [00:21] <Matti> reuben: mac mini with vnc display :-)
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  21. # [00:21] <reuben> hmm
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  23. # [00:22] <philor> ddahl: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/b2g.json
  24. # [00:23] <ddahl> philor: Thank you!
  25. # [00:23] <philor> OS_TARGET would be way too easy and familiar ;)
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  28. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0a8c0ed0c77 - Zack Weinberg - Bug 543151, part A3: convert the scanner to use peek/advance. r=heycam
  29. # [00:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a94f2ab8ddf9 - Zack Weinberg - Bug 543151, part A1: Preliminary cleanups to the scanner/parser interface and the organization of nsCSSScanner.cpp. r=heycam
  30. # [00:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef0da3fb98ff - Zack Weinberg - Bug 543151, part A4: unify the inner text-scanning loops used by GatherIdent, ScanString, NextURL. r=heycam
  31. # [00:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68c9f2677339 - Zack Weinberg - Bug 543151, part A2: Introduce the new peek/advance API and reimplement the old read/pushback API on top of it. r=heycam
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  53. # [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4de6de47382 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge inbound to m-c.
  54. # [01:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86b0207c62d6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound. DONTBUILD
  55. # [01:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff193fc3dc7d - Brian Smith - Bug 842064: Fix build bustage caused by expired certificates in test_signed_apps.js, a=bustage, a=testonly
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  84. # [01:28] <RealRaven> how would I go about bypassing an observer? Is there a way to intercept a message?
  85. # [01:28] <RealRaven> I am doing a multiple password change and the observer for the "modifyLogin" event forces the list to be reloaded for each entry
  86. # [01:28] <RealRaven> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/content/passwordManagerCommon.js#53
  87. # [01:28] <RealRaven> is there any way I can intercept this and only let the last one through? Otherwise the whole operation takes to long and makes the password manager stall when there are more than 5 logins to change.
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  89. # [01:30] <rnewman> RealRaven: have you looked at http://hg.mozilla.org/users/jnightingale_mozilla.com/massreset/ ?
  90. # [01:30] <RealRaven> no :)
  91. # [01:31] <rnewman> though I'll note that it just calls modifyLogin for each
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  94. # [01:32] <rnewman> (that's the source for https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/mass-password-reset/ )
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  96. # [01:33] <RealRaven1> alright, so somebody else has written something like this.
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  98. # [01:34] <RealRaven1> I actually didn't wabnt to copy their code. But there is probably no harm looking. My addon does it after a filter on the search dialog is set and then selects only items with matching password
  99. # [01:34] <RealRaven1> So you can effectively reset many passwords for a domain, provided they have the same password. In my company that is around 31 different sites
  100. # [01:35] <RealRaven1> it used to take a coiuple of seconds but now it is more like almost a minute.
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  103. # [01:35] <RealRaven1> I suspect that notification wasn't always fired or less was done on "modifyLogin"
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  106. # [01:36] <Mook> hmm, thought of an almost-useful hack that doesn't work :( (enumerate observers, detach them, do things, re-attach them)
  107. # [01:36] <Mook> sadly, you can't figure out if they were weak or not, so that's not going to actually work...
  108. # [01:36] <RealRaven1> yep, Kris M said that it probably not possible :(
  109. # [01:37] <RealRaven1> alternatively I could temporarily overwrite the LoadSignons() function so that nothing happens when it is called
  110. # [01:38] <RealRaven1> or even better:
  111. # [01:38] <RealRaven1> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/content/passwordManagerCommon.js#56
  112. # [01:38] <RealRaven1> guards against if (!signonsTree)
  113. # [01:38] <ddahl> philor: is this normal: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19815157&tree=Try
  114. # [01:38] <RealRaven1> I could just temporarily set that to null. Is that high risk?
  115. # [01:38] <RealRaven1> mook ^ ^
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  117. # [01:39] <RealRaven1> one obvious problem here would be that it is highly implementation specific (*and might fail in Postbox / SeaMOnkey / Thunderbird) in case they branch that code
  118. # [01:40] <Mook> well, it's saner than the option I was thinking of (temporarily replace Services.obs with something that filters out passwordmgr-storage-changed)
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  120. # [01:41] <RealRaven1> it woudld certainly only require very little code :)
  121. # [01:42] <rnewman> RealRaven1: mass password reset allows you to search based on criteria
  122. # [01:42] <rnewman> it's what lots of Mozillians use for our frequent password resets
  123. # [01:42] <RealRaven1> Yes I have seen this, but I think it is more of an either or. Have you looked at my addon (QuickPassword) ?
  124. # [01:43] <rnewman> nope
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  127. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> basically the flow is like this:
  128. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> 1. you go to the site, click the button which open Password Manager, this filters automatically by domain
  129. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> 2. click on the change sso password button
  130. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> 3. click "select all entries with same password"
  131. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> 4. enter new password and press OK
  132. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quickpasswords/
  133. # [01:44] <philor> ddahl: none of "normal" or "surprising" or "your fault" or "likely to decrease the stabbing pain in my temples", just retrigger and it should go away
  134. # [01:44] <RealRaven1> What I like about this approoach is that everything is visible to the user
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  139. # [01:46] <RealRaven1> it shows the window just beside the Password Manager:
  140. # [01:46] <RealRaven1> http://quickpasswords.mozdev.org/img/QP_ChangePasswords.png
  141. # [01:46] <John-Galt> Mook: Holy... that idea is pure evil...
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  144. # [01:46] <RealRaven1> John-Galt: you mean "temporarily replace Services.obs "... ?
  145. # [01:47] <John-Galt> Yes.
  146. # [01:47] <Mook> I didn't want to present it as an acceptably-sane solution :)
  147. # [01:47] <RealRaven1> I think I am going to go with temporarily setting signonsTree = null :)
  148. # [01:48] <RealRaven1> and then just restore that when I am finished iterating my password changes
  149. # [01:48] <John-Galt> Why null?
  150. # [01:49] <RealRaven1> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/content/passwordManagerCommon.js#56
  151. # [01:49] <RealRaven1> if (!signonsTree) return;
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  154. # [01:50] <RealRaven1> the observer guards against that and doesn't do anything
  155. # [01:50] <John-Galt> Ah.
  156. # [01:50] <RealRaven1> and then on the last password change I could restore this and let it do its reloadDIsplay once it gets the "modifyLogin" message
  157. # [01:52] <RealRaven1> Orginally I was hoping that there would be a method for "hooking" into an observer, similar to a bubbling event
  158. # [01:52] <John-Galt> You could replace signonReloadDisplay.observe. :)
  159. # [01:52] <John-Galt> Less evil than replacing Services.obs at an rate.
  160. # [01:53] <RealRaven1> hmm, true. It also seems a bit more obvious than relying on its internal implementation...
  161. # [01:55] <RealRaven1> but interestingly signonsTree is really just used there in the one place and represents the DOM element. I wonder if I could remove it from the main DOM and move it to somewhere else in the dialog, like dialog buttons.
  162. # [01:56] <RealRaven1> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/content/passwordManagerCommon.js#37
  163. # [01:56] <RealRaven1> that would then simply return null - so no signons tree, no reload necessary
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  165. # [01:56] <RealRaven1> I remember there were elements on that window which couldn't be retrieved with document.getElementById(..)
  166. # [01:57] <RealRaven1> I have to use document.documentElement.getElementsByClassName to get at them.
  167. # [01:58] <RealRaven1> I wonder if I could move the signonsTree into the same space, temporarily.
  168. # [01:58] <RealRaven1> is the "documentElement" area "outside" of the DOM tree?
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  170. # [02:00] <RealRaven1> hmm, maybe that idea is a little too off the wall.
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  173. # [02:01] <RealRaven1> Also, I would probably have to insert a placeholder of same width + height, so it doesn't look to alarming to the user...
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  177. # [02:07] <John-Galt> Too off the wall, yes.
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  179. # [02:10] <RealRaven1> ok, I will go with the signonsTree = null.
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  182. # [02:10] <RealRaven1> I have some code that triggers a refresh of the list anyway, so I can call that afterwards
  183. # [02:11] <RealRaven1> (Plan B would be to clode the PasswordManager window, but that doesn't look very trustworthy to the user)
  184. # [02:11] <RealRaven1> *close
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  192. # [02:20] <RealRaven1> John-Galt: okay, that seems to work fine :)
  193. # [02:20] <RealRaven1> processing before: 41 seconds,
  194. # [02:20] <RealRaven1> after: 1.5 seconds :)
  195. # [02:21] <John-Galt> Nice
  196. # [02:22] <RealRaven1> yep. PLus I am displaying a "throbber" underneath and it dpesn't even matter too much that it isnt moving all the time. At 20+ seconds the user might thing that Firefox has crashed :-o
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  201. # [02:24] <RealRaven1> Ok, now I can take out these wretched setTimeOut calls
  202. # [02:24] <John-Galt> *think
  203. # [02:24] <RealRaven1> ...?
  204. # [02:26] <RealRaven1> 5 seconds for 33 logins. I think that is still acceptable...
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  206. # [02:27] <RealRaven1> time to get some slepp...
  207. # [02:27] <RealRaven1> shleep
  208. # [02:27] <John-Galt> *sleep
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  210. # [02:29] <RealRaven1> yes that was the alternative Robert Wyatt spelling :)
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  213. # [02:30] <RealRaven1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shleep
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  215. # [02:30] <John-Galt> Weird.
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  217. # [02:31] <RealRaven1> An Wunderful! :)
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  219. # [02:32] <RealRaven1> Wonderful.
  220. # [02:32] <RealRaven1> and wonderful.
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  222. # [02:32] <RealRaven1> gosh I am definitely7 too tired, 1:30 am here
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  225. # [02:33] <RealRaven1> Will probably release the bugfix tomorrow :)
  226. # [02:33] <RealRaven1> now that mozdev seems to be reacting again
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  232. # [02:38] <RealRaven1> me, too. Good night!
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  284. # [03:54] <philor> pretend it's actually random which one of the mochitest hunks gets picked to run when there's a free slave
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  286. # [03:54] <philor> does increasing the number of hunks increase the probability of getting a long run where mochitest-1 gets skipped over?
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  288. # [03:55] <@dolske> <takei> increasing number of hunks? oohhhh myyyyy
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  343. # [05:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89c0a82b70e7 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 811548 - Move PageThumbs.jsm from /browser to /toolkit
  344. # [05:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e3aca33a039 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 840287 - Move NewTabUtils.jsm into toolkit [r=ttaubert]
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  346. # [05:26] <mbrubeck> d'oh, forgot to add the other r= and sr= tags to those commit messages
  347. # [05:27] <mbrubeck> Oh well, not gonna back out and reland just for that.
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  365. # [05:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a7cf5d271cb - David Dahl - Bug 683262 - window.crypto throws if MOZ_DISABLE_DOMCRYPTO is turned on - window.crypto patch - r=jst
  366. # [05:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73437c0d0091 - David Dahl - Bug 683262 - window.crypto throws if MOZ_DISABLE_DOMCRYPTO is turned on - revert nsIWindowCrypto patch - r=jst
  367. # [05:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a235e0d9dd70 - David Dahl - Bug 440046 - expose secure PRNG in the DOM (window.crypto.getRandomValues) r=cviecco r=bsmith
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  369. # [05:48] <Callek> ddahl: I thought there was consensus that we WOULDN'T be landing getRandomValues. did I miss something
  370. # [05:49] <ddahl> Callek: jst and I were unaware of this
  371. # [05:49] <ddahl> Callek: we disabled the FxOS tests
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  373. # [05:49] <Callek> ddahl: Ooo I meant, I thought there was newsgroup conversations spanning multiple years on why we shouldn't
  374. # [05:49] <ddahl> Callek: we should be able to fix bug 673432 this week to finish things for FxOS
  375. # [05:49] * Callek is far from an expert
  376. # [05:50] <ddahl> Callek: AHHH, that
  377. # [05:50] <ddahl> Callek: i think that is crypto.random
  378. # [05:50] <Callek> I thought it applied directly to getRandomValues as well
  379. # [05:50] <ddahl> crypto.getRandomValues is newere and part of the Web Crypto API/WHATWG specs
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  381. # [05:51] <Callek> ddahl: its also a WD afaict, http://www.w3.org/TR/WebCryptoAPI/
  382. # [05:51] <ddahl> Callek: its another parity chrome thingy the crypto nerds are screaming for too:)
  383. # [05:52] <Callek> ddahl: we don't need to parity-<any> if it doesn't make sense though :-P
  384. # [05:52] <ddahl> Callek: indeed
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  386. # [05:52] <ddahl> Callek: in this case, i am quite sure brendan wants it landed!
  387. # [05:53] <Callek> ddahl: basically I'm curious why aspects of the reasoning for *not* landing crypto.random don't also apply to crypto.getRandomValues
  388. # [05:53] * Callek is sure not blocking anything, and far from expert on this stuff, but still wishing to understand :-)
  389. # [05:53] * @dolske prepares April 1st patch implementing getConstantValues
  390. # [05:54] <ddahl> Callek: great question, I have no answer. these patches also re-implement the crypto property on mobile, which has lacked it for a long time
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  392. # [05:55] <Callek> ddahl: ok, re: mobile -- are we confident the crypto property on mobile doesn't also behaviorally expose limitations on mobile that let malicious 3rd parties know much more than a typical window.navigator/HTTP-Header display would show for those users?
  393. # [05:55] <ddahl> Callek: on mobile we only expose getRandomValues property
  394. # [05:56] <ddahl> ... for now
  395. # [05:56] <ddahl> dolske: ++
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  397. # [05:56] <ddahl> dolske: return const "BACON"
  398. # [05:56] <Callek> p.s. I find it odd that I even care about this stuff given I'm employed in Releng not the other areas. :-)
  399. # [05:57] <ddahl> Callek: I don't. there was quite a "discussion" on crypto.random and it just sat there for YEARS
  400. # [05:58] <Callek> ddahl: last question for now, is the getRandomValues part of the spec, pretty much guaranteed stable at this point, even if the rest of teh spec is in flux? (I note the big scary implementors warning) -- if not, why didn't we use |moz| prefix on the method?
  401. # [05:58] <ddahl> yep
  402. # [05:59] <ddahl> it is. it was a full-blown WHATWG spec until W3C took it over into the WebCrypto WG
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  405. # [05:59] * Callek STILL would love *someone* identifying why the concerns on crypto.random that prevented us from moving forward with that are not applicable to crypto.getRandomValues
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  408. # [05:59] <ddahl> Callek: you can always ask in the bug. There is an r+'d patch for it even, see bug 440046
  409. # [05:59] <ddahl> crazy huh?
  410. # [06:00] <Callek> hahaha, well bugs are quote obscure vs. the place the conversation on crypto.random happened ;-)
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  412. # [06:00] <Callek> especially since resolved bugs get little interest in prolonged conversation
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  414. # [06:00] <Callek> and even more so since my Question is more on the why's not the how's so doesn't belong on the bug about the how's (imo)
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  418. # [06:03] <ddahl> Callek: I really cannot answer your question. I am merely trying to re-instate the crypto object, provide getRandomValues - several cool crypto startups need it to do faster keygen etc
  419. # [06:04] <ddahl> Callek: and now, a lot of front-loaded work is done to allow the filling out of new crypto methods! yay!
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  421. # [06:04] <Callek> ddahl: sure, I'm just not a fan of moving faster than basic thought :-) such as "why do these legit reasons that prevented us from implementing very similar method X not prevent us from implementing this method Y"
  422. # [06:06] <ddahl> Callek: it might have to do with the fact that we now have typedArrays and the API is nicer/better/moderner
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  424. # [06:06] <Callek> same reasoning for why when someone asks something like "how do I redirect all output from a python process, to the stdin of a ruby script, that then feeds into an html form on my running Safari instance, so I can parse it in Firefox" WHAT they are trying to do, rather than work with how they are trying to do it :-)
  425. # [06:06] <ddahl> Callek: WHUCK?!
  426. # [06:06] * Callek apologizes for not having a better example handy
  427. # [06:06] <ddahl> dat cray-zay
  428. # [06:07] <Callek> but yea, its the "I have this 30-chain long thing that almost works, I think this thing for chain 31 will get me to my goal, how do I do <chain 31>" vs "I want to do X, I have Y, any ideas" --> simple solution :-)
  429. # [06:08] <ddahl> I wrote a system like that 10 years ago that still runs (bailinf wire and duct tape)
  430. # [06:08] <ddahl> (not ideal!)
  431. # [06:09] <Callek> ddahl: similar in scope to the conversations with people who had taken the hWnd for Firefox procs, and then tried to do stuff manually with it, instead of writing an extension in 10 lines that can do the same,or a plugin that gets passed stuff properly, etc.
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  433. # [06:10] <Callek> but yea, my point being, the WHY's matter, and if you move to implementation without the WHY answers, you might be wrong in your implementation choices (such as "good idea at all")
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  435. # [06:10] <Callek> and its the latter that cause me to cringe
  436. # [06:11] * Callek `suspects` in this case, its a good idea, since some VERY smart people are behind it, but I'm still curious on the why's
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  439. # [06:13] <Callek> ddahl: either way, just added c#306 to that bug
  440. # [06:13] <ddahl> Callek: alright!
  441. # [06:14] <daleharvey> so I have a fun bug
  442. # [06:14] <Callek> daleharvey: video tape it
  443. # [06:14] <Callek> I want to see a bug having fun
  444. # [06:15] <Callek> does it ride a bike/ play jenga, beat you at halo?, what?
  445. # [06:15] <Callek> [/troll]
  446. # [06:15] <daleharvey> some code that is on mc fixed an error which caused access to window.crypto to die with NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED: Component returned failure code: 0x80004001 (NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED) [nsIDOMWindow.crypto]
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  449. # [06:15] <daleharvey> that code on mc is not on the older b2g branches
  450. # [06:15] <Callek> hahaha, that sounds perfectly like what me and ddahl were just talking about
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  452. # [06:16] <daleharvey> lol I just scrolled up
  453. # [06:16] <Callek> daleharvey: so basically window.crypto used to be not implemented on our mobile offerings, it now is
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  456. # [06:17] <daleharvey> by 'now' do we mean that checkin logged ^
  457. # [06:17] <Callek> daleharvey: well it was checked in before, and then backed out, and now just checked in again
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  459. # [06:18] <daleharvey> hmm, I will test the patches
  460. # [06:18] <Callek> daleharvey: ddahl should know much more
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  462. # [06:19] <daleharvey> this was a roundabout trip from debugging youtube videos on b2g
  463. # [06:19] <purezen> Hey guys..!! Making a new patch via Mercurial is generating patches with the complete files that are edited..
  464. # [06:19] <Callek> daleharvey: yea, iirc b2g had some issues with the first landing, and theres now a "disable these tests for now" patch, aiui
  465. # [06:20] <ddahl> daleharvey: on inbound? ot mc?
  466. # [06:20] <purezen> It seems hg is not reading these comments in the hgrc file.. [diff]
  467. # [06:20] <purezen> git = 1
  468. # [06:20] <purezen> showfunc = 1
  469. # [06:20] <purezen> unified = 8
  470. # [06:20] <daleharvey> ddahl: no this is an existing issue for the last few months
  471. # [06:20] <purezen> Anyone..?
  472. # [06:20] <Callek> purezen: suspect line ending differences?
  473. # [06:20] <ddahl> daleharvey: i just landed like minutes ago the crypto property back on fx mobile
  474. # [06:21] <purezen> Callek: Sorry, I didn't get you..
  475. # [06:21] <Callek> purezen: lets head to #hg so we don't interrupt the other issue here ;-)
  476. # [06:21] <daleharvey> ddahl: hmm, I dont think that is it then
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  478. # [06:21] <purezen> Callek: Sure.. thanks..:)
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  482. # [06:24] <daleharvey> theres a b2g18 branch which branched a few months ago, it cant play youtube videos and logs the above '(NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED) [nsIDOMWindow.crypto]', my mozilla-central build of b2g from this morning / the last few days / weeks does not crash on the same code (despite window.crypto not having landed yet)
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  484. # [06:25] <fabrice> why do we hit window.crypto at all?
  485. # [06:26] <daleharvey> as far as I can tell that hasnt ever hit central, I feel like this bug is probably in some higher level handling of undefined properties, the content youtube sends does a check for window.crypto && window.crypto.cv
  486. # [06:26] <daleharvey> we dont, youtube iframes embeds do
  487. # [06:26] <fabrice> ouch
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  489. # [06:27] <fabrice> daleharvey: so it's fixed on m-c?
  490. # [06:27] <daleharvey> fabrice: yes, and has been for a while
  491. # [06:27] <fabrice> daleharvey: can you nominate for tef and rebase?
  492. # [06:28] <fabrice> daleharvey: or at least we should return null instead of throwing
  493. # [06:29] <daleharvey> nominate what? :P this has been fixed on mc a while, it isnt related to the crypto landings today
  494. # [06:29] <fabrice> daleharvey: the fix on m-c landed after we branched b2g18, right? so we need to uplift that?
  495. # [06:29] <Callek> daleharvey: so yea, it sounds like *something* now doesn't throw for |window.crypto| (and similar) even though its still undef, when it does on b2g18
  496. # [06:30] <daleharvey> fabrice: yup, but what exactly that 'fix' is I havent found yet
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  498. # [06:30] <fabrice> daleharvey: ok
  499. # [06:30] <daleharvey> I had been trying to bisect it but its pretty much impossible
  500. # [06:30] <Callek> daleharvey: my suggestion: bisect! with the simple test of |foo = window.crypt; return "PASS" // we shouldn't throw|
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  502. # [06:31] <Callek> s/crypt/crypto/
  503. # [06:31] <daleharvey> yeh that should work, cheers
  504. # [06:32] <Callek> daleharvey: so yea, my thought here is since you know what is throwing, and that it all works on trunk without a throw, and that we're still not (yet) defining window.crypto on trunk, that my test should get you closer to BAD/GOOD then when you have that you can test more extensively what the issue is/sanity in terms of BAD/GOOD etc.
  505. # [06:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20abb67042df - L. David Baron - Bug 841983: Require whitespace around 'not', 'and', and 'or' keywords in @supports rules. r=heycam
  506. # [06:34] <daleharvey> Callek: yeh my last bisect depended on the entire b2g + gaia stack not being otherwise broken (it was load the browser and test an embedded iframe), which isnt a great thing to depend on :P
  507. # [06:35] <Callek> daleharvey: THEORY is it might even work for basic testing to check mobile-android and use an android emulator, THEN double-check when you have a close range working B2G with simple test, THEN use better test ;-)
  508. # [06:36] <Callek> which would (theoretically) be faster to get the good/bad check done
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  510. # [06:39] <Callek> be back in a bit, I accidentally said "yes" to a popup for Windows to restart
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  516. # [06:41] <daleharvey> fabrice: do you know how I would just change b2g to load a single html page?
  517. # [06:41] <fabrice> daleharvey: instead of the system app?
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  519. # [06:42] <daleharvey> yeh, I would just like something like b2g --url http:// ....
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  524. # [06:43] <fabrice> daleharvey: you can change the browser.homescreenURL pref (yes, it should be renamed)
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  531. # [06:49] <daleharvey> I am half way between crying in despair and tears of joy
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  533. # [06:49] <daleharvey> http://junk.arandomurl.com/crypto.html passes on mc and fails on b2g18
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  537. # [06:51] <daleharvey> and the homescreen stuff works perfectly, cheers
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  542. # [06:53] <darkowlzz> jaws: ping!
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  546. # [06:56] <darkowlzz> can anyone help with this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=840745 ? I need some advice on linking the code from various files..
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  552. # [07:08] <fabrice> daleharvey: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/confvars.sh#26
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  554. # [07:10] <daleharvey> fabrice: thats in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-b2g18/source/b2g/confvars.sh#26 though
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  557. # [07:12] <daleharvey> anyway, getting the ridiculous side of late/early for me, will carry on tomorrow, cheers
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  582. # [07:43] <philor> well, that's charming, apparently test_bug13871.html can't run if it isn't the first test in a chunk?
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  584. # [07:45] <philor> which means we can't change the number of mochitest chunks, and we also can't have a top-level directory with a name alphabetically between content and docshell
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  586. # [07:46] <jaws> darkowlzz: pong
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  588. # [07:47] <darkowlzz> jaws: hi, see this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=840745#c4
  589. # [07:47] <jaws> darkowlzz: i just read your comment
  590. # [07:47] <jaws> would you like me to reply here or on the bug?
  591. # [07:47] <darkowlzz> on the bug
  592. # [07:48] <jaws> ok will do, and you are mostly on the right track :)
  593. # [07:48] <darkowlzz> :)
  594. # [07:48] <@dbaron> philor, maybe the window.open calls should be later?
  595. # [07:48] <@dbaron> philor, then again, window.open ought to work even in a freshly-created browser
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  603. # [07:58] <philor> dbaron: the start of its spew of failure is "uncaught exception - TypeError: can't access dead object at :0" if that tells you more than it does me
  604. # [08:04] <Callek> philor: link me to that, it almost sounds like an X server on linux is crashing
  605. # [08:04] <Callek> assuming this is what I think it is
  606. # [08:04] <darkowlzz> jaws: Mike has submitted his patch. Should I continue or let him fix it?
  607. # [08:05] <philor> Callek: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a9b925ea209c
  608. # [08:05] <philor> different :0
  609. # [08:05] <philor> in this case, line 0 of a JS file with no name
  610. # [08:05] <jaws> darkowlzz: i think it sounded like he would be happy to let you finish the bug
  611. # [08:06] <Callek> yea, that is surely not a DISPLAY=:0 thing
  612. # [08:06] <Callek> ;-)
  613. # [08:06] <Callek> thanks though
  614. # [08:06] <jaws> darkowlzz: his approach is close, but some of the things i would do differently
  615. # [08:07] <darkowlzz> jaws: okay, I will acknowledge him on comment and start the patch. Thanks :)
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  629. # [08:22] <darkowlzz> jaws: can you tell me which part from Mike's patch would you do differently? The patch looks good.
  630. # [08:24] <jaws> darkowlzz: the combining of the string and playbackrate isn't good
  631. # [08:24] <jaws> and also he is missing the submenu
  632. # [08:24] <jaws> i think the submenu is pretty important, since we don't want a large list of repeating playback rate values
  633. # [08:25] <jaws> those should only be shown if the user wants to change playback rate, they don't deserve to be shown at all times
  634. # [08:25] <jaws> a submenu also reduces the duplication of "X speed" or "X rate" everywhere
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  640. # [08:34] <darkowlzz> jaws: aha! Will do that. I am clear with it now. Will submit the patch and then look into testing code. Thanks a lot :)
  641. # [08:35] <jaws> cool, looking forward to the patch :)
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  658. # [09:12] <philor> oh, awesome, it's actually that test_bug13871.html can't stand to run in the mess that test_mixed_content_blocker_bug803225.html is leaving behind
  659. # [09:13] <philor> every green debug mochitest-1 log is filled with hundreds of "JavaScript error: , line 0: can't access dead object", there just isn't anyone else in mochitest-1 who's bothered by that
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  669. # [09:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbf7a8294eae - Cameron McCormack - Bug 842016 - Make pointer-events not affect whether SVG text renders. r?
  670. # [09:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4831a8b042c - Cameron McCormack - Bug 842009 - Ignore <tref> elements when computing SVG text layout. r?
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  673. # [09:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f16a01e65b27 - Cameron McCormack - Backed out changeset cbf7a8294eae for lack of proper "r=".
  674. # [09:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a8784560224 - Cameron McCormack - Backed out changeset e4831a8b042c for lack of proper "r=".
  675. # [09:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6693706cbd4f - Cameron McCormack - Bug 842009 - Ignore <tref> elements when computing SVG text layout. r=longsonr
  676. # [09:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e137a87e84f - Cameron McCormack - Bug 842016 - Make pointer-events not affect whether SVG text renders. r=longsonr
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  709. # [10:17] <Ms2ger> Callek, "the perfectly legitimate objections to window.crypto.random which have been raised over the past years"
  710. # [10:17] <Ms2ger> Callek, care to elaborate?
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  726. # [10:42] <Callek> Ms2ger: many newsgroup threads/etc
  727. # [10:42] <Callek> Ms2ger: I don't frankly remember all of them, but I do wonder why "now its ok" vs "before it was not"
  728. # [10:43] <Ms2ger> I can't really answer that without knowing why it wasn't before :)
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  776. # [12:08] <NeilAway> dolske: window.crypto.getRandomValues() { return 4; } // chosen by random dice roll
  777. # [12:11] <Ms2ger> window.crypto.getRandomValues(buffer) { for (var i = 0; i < buffer.length; ++i) { buffer[i] = 4 } }, you mean
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  869. # [14:53] <gaston> 0:12.99 configure: error: Only GCC 4.4 or newer supported
  870. # [14:53] <gaston> what's that newer crap ruling out CC=clang ??
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  874. # [14:55] <gaston> borked
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  876. # [14:56] <gaston> i see gnu grep only
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  961. # [17:05] <evilpie> bindings seem to generate thousands of warnings
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  984. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/046df99b88b0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 841404. Make sure that we treat dictionaries inside sequence and array members of a dictionary as dependencies for it. r=peterv
  985. # [17:28] <evilpie> is there something like VoidString() ?
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  990. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> evilpie, NullString(), IIRC
  991. # [17:33] <evilpie> ugh
  992. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> It's reflected into JS as null, so that makes sense ;)
  993. # [17:34] <evilpie> but the method on nsString is SetIsVoid(true)
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  995. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> Yeah
  996. # [17:36] <Ms2ger> But there's also SetDOMStringToNull
  997. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> Can't blame you if you think our strings are weird :)
  998. # [17:39] <evilpie> pretty standard for the mozilla code base
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  1018. # [18:07] <evilpie> for some reason web console just says:
  1019. # [18:07] <evilpie> "[18:03:50.147] not well-formed @ http://localhost:8080/test:1"
  1020. # [18:07] <evilpie> useful!
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  1022. # [18:07] <Ms2ger> Heh
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  1024. # [18:08] <evilpie> i am quite curious where this is coming from
  1025. # [18:08] <evilpie> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2152518
  1026. # [18:11] <Ms2ger> Why all on one line? :)
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  1031. # [18:14] <Jesse> evilpie: it's a misfeature of XMLHttpRequest. you can override it.
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  1035. # [18:15] <Jesse> overrideMimeType?
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  1040. # [18:19] <Jesse> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518301
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  1090. # [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa528f1db0d5 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 840270 - Don't show a popup for select[multiple] with precise pointer input [r=jimm]
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  1093. # [19:08] <evilpie> Jesse: uhh
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  1097. # [19:12] <evilpie> any idea how i could fix that?
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  1102. # [19:18] <janv> Ms2ger: ?
  1103. # [19:18] <janv> you mean the menuitem review ?
  1104. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> Yeah
  1105. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> Just checking it's fine that we drop the HTMLCommandElement interface
  1106. # [19:19] <janv> hm
  1107. # [19:19] <janv> I think that interface doesn't exist in the spec anymore
  1108. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> It doesn't, no
  1109. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> I was hoping you'd remember the backstory :)
  1110. # [19:20] <janv> Hixies insisted on the command API
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  1112. # [19:20] <janv> he didn't want to add the menuitem element
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  1114. # [19:21] <janv> now, after several years
  1115. # [19:21] <janv> he changed the spec to match our impl (mostly)
  1116. # [19:22] <janv> there's a thread about it
  1117. # [19:22] <janv> in whatwg list
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  1119. # [19:22] <janv> s/Hixies/Hixie
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  1127. # [19:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d73b0524cb1f - Oleg Romashin - Bug 840869 - division-by-zero possible in gfxFont::Draw when mAdjusted == 0.0 r=bas.schouten
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  1156. # [20:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e9f7c541947 - Randell Jesup - Bug 826044: enable WebRTC crashtests r=jsmith
  1157. # [20:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31fa1546a849 - Randell Jesup - Bug 826044: Fix Webrtc crashtests, disable known permaoranges r=jsmith
  1158. # [20:01] <gaston> Ms2ger: glandium: any advice on #842131 ?
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  1166. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> gaston, I'm afraid not, sorry
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  1168. # [20:13] <gaston> egrep '(a|b)' is supposedly portable; no ?
  1169. # [20:14] <gaston> (or grep -E if that matters)
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  1279. # [22:11] <Jesse> evilpie: try using a clearly non-XML Content-Type header, and if that doesn't work, call overrideMimeType on the XHR
  1280. # [22:12] <evilpie> Jesse: i actually meant, how i could fix firefox so we get better error reporting
  1281. # [22:12] <@smaug> NeilAway: ping
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  1283. # [22:13] <Jesse> evilpie: change the sniffy case to not try parsing as XML until the responseXML getter is called?
  1284. # [22:13] <evilpie> sounds good!
  1285. # [22:14] <Jesse> evilpie: i thought i'd find a bug with lots of dups and votes but i only found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518301
  1286. # [22:15] <NeilAway> smaug: pong
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  1290. # [22:18] <Jesse> evilpie: after more searching i found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311724 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384298
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  1292. # [22:20] <@smaug> NeilAway: nm
  1293. # [22:20] <@smaug> NeilAway: can't blame you after all :)
  1294. # [22:21] <@smaug> I was reading some code which involved changes to *Array handling, and thought that you might know about it
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  1296. # [22:21] <Ms2ger> I'd do it anyway
  1297. # [22:21] * @smaug can blame tbsaunde
  1298. # [22:22] <Ms2ger> Ah, that works too
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  1302. # [22:23] <Jesse> evilpie: based on https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/tip/Overview.html#the-responsexml-attribute i think the fix has to be at the sniffing level, not at the "did you get responseXML" level :/
  1303. # [22:23] <NeilAway> smaug: I touched nsCOMArray, if you'd like to start use ;-)
  1304. # [22:24] <NeilAway> eek, not-paying-attention-to-caret edit fail
  1305. # [22:24] <evilpie> Jesse: we could also sniff when somebody looks at responeType
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  1308. # [22:25] <evilpie> Ms2ger: rubber stamp on landing test in 508061?
  1309. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> Sure
  1310. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> If it passes
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  1312. # [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de56ae61946d - Tom Schuster - Bug 508061 - INITELEM behavior differs with -j. rs=Ms2ger
  1313. # [22:29] <evilpie> thanks!
  1314. # [22:30] <evilpie> of course the test passes, because we are bug free (tm)
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  1317. # [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe1aa97b77a6 - Jonathan Kew - bug 841470 - don't call AppUnitsPerDevPixelChanged unless the value has actually changed. r=roc
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  1320. # [22:32] <RyanVM> evilpie: might have been good if your commit message had mentioned that it was only a test you were landing
  1321. # [22:33] <evilpie> RyanVM: truth
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  1324. # [22:33] <@roc> I also think it's a good idea for commit messages to say what the patch does rather than describe a bug
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  1326. # [22:35] <RyanVM> roc++
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  1328. # [22:36] <Ms2ger> I sure wouldn't have rs'd if I'd seen that commit message! ;)
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  1331. # [22:38] <evilpie> :( guys
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  1338. # [22:42] <evilpie> lol @ nsHTMLTags.cpp
  1339. # [22:42] <evilpie> Ms2ger: :)
  1340. # [22:43] <Ms2ger> Oh dear, why are you looking at *that*?
  1341. # [22:43] <evilpie> Bug 629801
  1342. # [22:43] <Jesse> the top part? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/parser/htmlparser/src/nsHTMLTags.cpp
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  1344. # [22:44] <evilpie> more like the ugly C++ part
  1345. # [22:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/841077d27df8 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 842158 - Make <input type=range> honor the 'direction' property. r=dholbert.
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  1347. # [22:45] <evilpie> can't believe somebody implements <time>
  1348. # [22:47] * njn wonders what fraction of a browser the layout+JS engines represent
  1349. # [22:48] <evilpie> i have definitely seen a graphic showing the size of different sub directories
  1350. # [22:48] <RyanVM> jkfthame: ping
  1351. # [22:49] <RyanVM> jfkthame: ping even
  1352. # [22:49] <RyanVM> jfkthame: red on inbound (Werror :D )
  1353. # [22:49] <jfkthame> RyanVM: :(
  1354. # [22:49] <jfkthame> looking...
  1355. # [22:51] <jfkthame> ah, good ol' signed vs unsigned… just a sec and i'll push a fix
  1356. # [22:52] <Ms2ger> Have we still not decided on a signedness for those?
  1357. # [22:52] <jfkthame> i think the bug on that may be awaiting my review
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  1361. # [22:56] <njn> evilpie: me too, though I wonder how lines of code relate to complexity and essentialness
  1362. # [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16ff7211d7b2 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 842158 - Fix comment in input-range-direction-1.html. r=dholbert. DONTBUILD.
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  1364. # [22:59] <jfkthame> RyanVM: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2153139 <-- no obvious stupidity there, i hope?
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  1366. # [23:00] <RyanVM> as long as you're happy with it being unsigned, I have no objections :)
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  1368. # [23:01] <jfkthame> if it's ever negative, we're in real trouble!
  1369. # [23:02] <evilpie> so why is it signed?
  1370. # [23:02] <@roc> then it probably is negative
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  1372. # [23:02] <BenWa> Do we have any process for updating our dictionaries? I notice words every few weeks that spellchecks does not know about and it seems that filing individual bug isn't a good approach.
  1373. # [23:03] <jfkthame> well, i'm kind of inclined towards using signed variables for these because we may mix them into arithmetic expression involving negative coordinates
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  1375. # [23:03] <jfkthame> so propagating unsignedness from the appunit ratio might not be a good thing
  1376. # [23:03] <jfkthame> but it probably doesn't really matter in practice - the issue at the moment is that we have some of them one way, some the other
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  1382. # [23:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a9f0e934370 - Jonathan Kew - bug 841470 followup - fix signed/unsigned warning causing build bustage. r=me
  1383. # [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a21768b10f0 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 835712 - Use more webidl for safer JS traversal. r=bz, r=jesup
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  1385. # [23:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f213ceb739aa - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 835370 - Optional offer/answer constraints work + unsupported mandatory ones fail. r=bz, r=jesup
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