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  16. # [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5faf053cccaf - David Zbarsky - Bug 837044 Part 1: Move SVGFilterElement to mozilla::dom r=bz
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  25. # [00:56] <Jesse> Hixie: it would be nice if software.hixie.ch supported SSL. i just uploaded a testcase using delayed-file to bugzilla, and it got mixed-active-contented :(
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  73. # [02:05] <markh> I suspect this is a dumb question, but if content windows can not steal focus from each other, what is the primary use-case for window.focus() (as opposed to element.focus()) - is it simply to unfocus a specific element?
  74. # [02:06] * markh isn't even sure that window.focus() *does* unfocus a specific element...
  75. # [02:07] <Jesse> there might still be a few cases where content windows can steal focus from each other
  76. # [02:08] <Jesse> <iframe>, { window.open(); window.focus(); }
  77. # [02:08] <cers> I don't think it unfocuses elements in the window
  78. # [02:09] <markh> Jesse: that's interesting - if content windows can steal focus from other windows in the same origin, it would help explain the problem I'm tracking...
  79. # [02:10] <Jesse> the second case isn't based on same origin, but on what events are being handled
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  89. # [02:22] <markh> right - it seems the opener can focus us when popups are allowed (ie, if the opener could currently open a new window, it can also focus previously opened windows)
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  91. # [02:23] <markh> but that's not really "stealing focus" - it's more "giving up focus"
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  108. # [02:45] <@roc> anyone know or care that dxr.mozilla.com has been down for days?
  109. # [02:46] <KWierso|Home> roc: isn't it .org?
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  111. # [02:47] <@roc> hmm
  112. # [02:47] <@roc> I guess it's changed in a way that broke my bookmarklet
  113. # [02:47] <@roc> OK
  114. # [02:49] <@roc> thanks
  115. # [02:49] <KWierso|Home> yep
  116. # [02:49] <jcranmer> roc: dxr is up-to-date as of this morning
  117. # [02:50] <KWierso|Home> roc: see also http://quetzalcoatal.blogspot.com/2013/02/updated-dxr-on-dxrmozillaorg.html
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  120. # [02:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa9f36138ad8 - Christian Holler - Bug 838557 - Fix obvious problem with previous patch in nsPresShell.cpp, r=me
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  123. # [03:02] * Unfocused yearns for JS support
  124. # [03:03] <jcranmer> Unfocused: I'm told someone is working on itright now
  125. # [03:03] <Unfocused> \o/
  126. # [03:03] <jcranmer> of course, you're not likely to get it on d.m.o untilQ2
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  131. # [03:09] <nattokirai> roc: can i ask you to do a quick review? it's a minor patch, only a few lines
  132. # [03:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/411288642ab4 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 842176 - Partial revert of bug 839319; use WAVE_FORMATEX when channels <= 2. r=doublec
  133. # [03:10] <@roc> sure
  134. # [03:10] <nattokirai> great, thx
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  136. # [03:11] <nattokirai> roc: ok, patch sent
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  140. # [03:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/547bfb2239d1 - David Zbarsky - Bug 837044 - Convert SVGFilterElement to WebIDL r=bz
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  144. # [03:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cef45c1cb7d4 - Chris Double - Bug 823253 - Part 1 - Whitelist HTC Gingerbread devices for stagefright decoding - r=bjacob
  145. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50dc45f30b22 - Chris Double - Bug 823253 - Part 2 - Whitelist LG Froyo devices for stagefright decoding - r=bjacob
  146. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a5523cc2812 - Chris Double - Bug 823523 - Part 4 - Whitelist Samsung Honeycomb devices for Stagefright decoding - r=bjacob
  147. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5cb684d6b76 - Chris Double - Bug 823253 - Part 3 - Whitelist Samsung Gingerbread devices for Stagefright decoding - r=bjacob
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  151. # [03:23] <bjacob> doublec++
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  156. # [03:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da82798eb275 - John Daggett - Bug 833169 - initialize family name in pango font entries. r=roc
  157. # [03:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/820dff9bdc55 - John Daggett - Bug 833169 - add font family name to font entries and use in user font cache key. r=jkew
  158. # [03:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa40088b0833 - David Zbarsky - Bug 837044: Remove nsIDOMSVGFilterElement.idl that I forgot to remove earlier r=me
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  177. # [03:48] <jcranmer> uh, wtf?
  178. # [03:49] <jcranmer> btoa isn't working properly with a Uint8Array
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  183. # [04:04] <firebot> Check-in:
  184. # [04:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1310b986ebe - Jeff Walden - Bug 664528 - [].sort misbehaves when the array being sorted starts with at least one hole and otherwise contains only holes and |undefined| as its elements. r=jandem
  185. # [04:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb1a14e09f50 - Zack Weinberg - Bug 842134: fix serialization of unquoted url() in CSS. r=heycam
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  189. # [04:13] <jcranmer> ah, nothing more fun than ripping out hundreds of lines of code
  190. # [04:13] <jcranmer> give me another day or two and that will be thousands of lines
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  219. # [04:47] <jcranmer> Jesse: MIME
  220. # [04:48] <KWierso|Home> a mime is a terrible thing to waste...
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  222. # [04:48] <jcranmer> not when it's written in shitty unreadable C it ain't
  223. # [04:49] <@dolske> MINE? http://youtu.be/p-3e0EkvIEM oh.
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  295. # [07:01] <ewong> !seen ajschult
  296. # [07:01] <firebot> ajschult was last seen 126 weeks, 2 days, 16 hours, 38 minutes and 53 seconds ago,
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  299. # [07:03] <firebot> nickc was last seen 44 weeks, 2 days, 12 hours, 5 minutes and 31 seconds ago,
  300. # [07:05] <philor> !seen therain
  301. # [07:05] <firebot> I've never seen a 'therain', sorry.
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  311. # [07:22] <Mook> firebot needs to come over to the Pacific Northwest, then.
  312. # [07:22] <firebot> Mook: Sorry, I've no idea what 'needs to come over to the Pacific Northwest, then' might be.
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  326. # [07:35] <capella> !who'll stop therain
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  328. # [07:36] <KWierso|Home> !haveyouever seen therain
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  335. # [07:44] <@dolske> all these moments will be lost in time.
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  350. # [08:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff75b06e2330 - L. David Baron - Bug 563195: Fix -Wshadow warnings in gfx that affect layout/style. r=derf
  351. # [08:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fa2028f2e3c - L. David Baron - Bug 563195: Fix -Wshadow warnings in public SPS headers. r=BenWa
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  356. # [08:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/761d4d55680d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 563195: Avoid triggering -Wshadow warnings in mfbt/. r=Waldo
  357. # [08:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b8d67b35d82 - L. David Baron - Bug 563195: Fix -Wshadow warnings in layout/style. r=bzbarsky
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  461. # [09:58] <@dbaron> shit, I accidentally pushed an inbound bustage fix to central
  462. # [09:58] <@dbaron> I guess everything should be fine, but I can't really be sure...
  463. # [09:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0acbd06d48a9 - L. David Baron - Bug 836655: Fix bustage ("comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions", warnings-as-errors) by using Contains rather than IndexOf.
  464. # [10:01] <ewong> doesn't look like it was pushed to central..
  465. # [10:01] <@dbaron> firebot doesn't report large pushes, only small ones
  466. # [10:01] <firebot> dbaron: Sorry, I've no idea what 'doesn't report large pushes, only small ones' might be.
  467. # [10:01] <ewong> oh
  468. # [10:01] <Ms2ger> Heh
  469. # [10:02] <Ms2ger> dbaron, will you mark the merge or should I?
  470. # [10:02] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, I could, but if you're up to doing it I'd appreciate it
  471. # [10:03] <Ms2ger> Alright, will do
  472. # [10:04] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, thanks
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  474. # [10:06] * @dbaron has only used m-cMerge once, and it wasn't the best of experiences
  475. # [10:06] <@dbaron> (and given my record for the night...)
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  492. # [10:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/524e7bc67431 - L. David Baron - Backed out changesets b093ba2c7ff9 and 0acbd06d48a9 (Bug 836655) for failing unit test.
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  495. # [10:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/524e7bc67431 - L. David Baron - Backed out changesets b093ba2c7ff9 and 0acbd06d48a9 (Bug 836655) for failing unit test.
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  502. # [10:27] <mchen> dbaron: Thanks for your help to back out 836655
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  509. # [10:34] <@dbaron> anyway, sorry about messing up the trees (i.e., the accidental merge), and g'night
  510. # [10:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/673dd484f5b5 - Christian Sonne - Bug 842185 - "Remove From History" doesn't work r=mak
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  514. # [10:36] <Ms2ger> Good night
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  523. # [10:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4a233c10cc9 - Landry Breuil - Bug 842131 - Use egrep to detect clang version, fixes build without GNU grep. r=glandium
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  525. # [10:46] <RyanVM> dare I ask the story with the merge earlier?
  526. # [10:47] <Ms2ger> "hg push m-c" and "hg push inbound" aren't much different
  527. # [10:47] <Ms2ger> You're in London?
  528. # [10:47] <RyanVM> yes
  529. # [10:47] <Ms2ger> Poor philor :)
  530. # [10:47] <RyanVM> heh
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  547. # [11:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fa2b18fae9c - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 838598 - Part 2: Convert HTMLMenuItemElement to WebIDL. r=Ms2ger, r=janv
  548. # [11:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8497cf15a6dc - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 838598 - Part 1: Rename nsHTMLMenuItemElement to HTMLMenuItemElement. r=Ms2ger, r=janv
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  551. # [11:12] <@smaug> Ms2ger: did you file the bug about mxr not updating?
  552. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> Yes
  553. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> firebot, Bug 842172]
  554. # [11:12] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842172 nor, --, server-ops-webops, NEW, MXR seems not to be updating
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  558. # [11:14] <@smaug> Ms2ger: thanks
  559. # [11:15] <Ms2ger> Np
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  562. # [11:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c6fe95e2668 - Edgar Chen - Bug 835729 - Part 3: xpcshell tests. r=allstars.chh
  563. # [11:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86c7d1b67175 - Edgar Chen - Bug 835729 - Part 2: Refactor updateNetworkName and _processOperator. r=allstars.chh
  564. # [11:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/785ce2473812 - Edgar Chen - Bug 835729 - Part 1: Fix updating operator's info. r=allstars.chh
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  605. # [12:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a708c976f45 - Tetsuharu OHZEKI - Bug 803675 - part0: Reduce to check caller context in nsWindowWatcher::CalculateChromeFlags(). r=bz
  606. # [12:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a71e34325926 - Tetsuharu OHZEKI - Bug 803675 - part1: window.open() open a new tab instead of window when browser is fullscreen mode and the caller is content context. r=bz
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  608. # [12:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b7b42fdfd57 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 838343 - Renaming nsHTMLFrameElement to HTMLFrameElement r=peterv
  609. # [12:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abba7ec43f00 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 838343 - Convert HTMLFrameElement to WebIDL r=peterv
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  628. # [12:59] <purezen> Hey guys..!! I just built the Desktop client from start.. and when I start ./firefox from the /dist/bin folder.. it shows to be running in the background but I can't see it starting.. its utilizing one core completely of my PC.. I am running Ubuntu 12.10 x64..
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  635. # [13:01] <daleharvey> ted: Hey, very sorry for hassling you, but any chance you could take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826058 ? we have been needing to get this landed for a while
  636. # [13:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a09e3d0f005d - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 838559 - Convert HTMLMenuElement to WebIDL. r=Ms2ger, r=peterv
  637. # [13:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cab8ac207ba4 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 838559 - Rename nsHTMLMenuElement to HTMLMenuElement. r=Ms2ger
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  640. # [13:02] <Callek> daleharvey: fyi, today is a holiday for most [all?] of canada and the US employees
  641. # [13:03] <Callek> ted is based out of the US, so unless he is working "anyway" today, might be best to ping him tomorrow
  642. # [13:03] <daleharvey> on snap yeh I forgot, cheers
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  655. # [13:13] <RyanVM> Callek: Like you? :)
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  657. # [13:13] <RyanVM> and man you're up early :P
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  659. # [13:13] <Callek> RyanVM: s/early/late/
  660. # [13:14] <RyanVM> oh, hah
  661. # [13:14] <Callek> RyanVM: my mind is living somewhere around HK right now
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  666. # [13:19] <RyanVM> baku: should I hold off on pushing more of your webidl stuff for a bit?
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  668. # [13:20] <baku> RyanVM, why so?
  669. # [13:20] <baku> I think there is nothing more pending...
  670. # [13:20] <RyanVM> just wondering if you've got more coming shortly
  671. # [13:20] <RyanVM> that's what I was wondering
  672. # [13:20] <baku> mmm not really.
  673. # [13:20] <RyanVM> ok
  674. # [13:21] <daleharvey> http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/26538306793/its-a-global-project-we-swear
  675. # [13:21] <RyanVM> baku: bug 839447 patch 1 needs some refreshing
  676. # [13:21] <RyanVM> might as well refresh patch 2 while you're at it
  677. # [13:21] <RyanVM> (ping me when you're done)
  678. # [13:21] <baku> RyanVM, ok. 2secs and you will have a new one
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  683. # [13:27] <purezen> Hey guys..!! I completed a first build of the desktop client.. but it doesn't seem to work.. anyone..?
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  685. # [13:28] <@smaug> purezen: you built Firefox? on which OS? how are you trying to start it?
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  689. # [13:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea6e27e21be8 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 839447 - Rename nsHTMLOptionElement to HTMLOptionElement, r=Ms2ger
  690. # [13:29] <purezen> smaug: Thanks.. yep.. I am on Ubuntu12.10 x64.. I tried running 'firefox' and 'firefox-bin' in /obj../dist/bin..
  691. # [13:29] <RyanVM> baku: even better! (though you only pushed one patch?)
  692. # [13:29] <baku> I did... I;mpushing the second one
  693. # [13:29] <@smaug> ./firefox
  694. # [13:30] <RyanVM> baku: please push them together next time - it wastes build resources to spawn extra jobs
  695. # [13:30] <baku> done
  696. # [13:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68cb1f5270a8 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 839447 - Convert HTMLOptionElement to WebIDL, r=Ms2ger
  697. # [13:30] <baku> RyanVM, ok
  698. # [13:30] <@smaug> purezen: and if you're using another instance of firefox, ./firefox -P someprofile -no-remote
  699. # [13:30] <RyanVM> baku: our infra load has been very high lately, so we need all the spare cycles we can get
  700. # [13:31] <baku> so just qimporting 2 patches, and then ... ok. I'll do it.
  701. # [13:31] <RyanVM> yes
  702. # [13:31] <purezen> smaug: It's alone..
  703. # [13:31] <RyanVM> baku: which brings me to my second point - http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html
  704. # [13:31] <RyanVM> baku: you're #1 :)
  705. # [13:31] <baku> \o/
  706. # [13:31] <baku> are you proud of me?
  707. # [13:31] <baku> hahah
  708. # [13:31] <RyanVM> baku: make sure you're only testing platforms and running only the tests you really need
  709. # [13:31] <RyanVM> especially since Try jobs can't be coalesced
  710. # [13:32] <RyanVM> so they create the highest load
  711. # [13:32] <baku> ok sure... I'll try to reduce the number of try requests
  712. # [13:32] <@smaug> purezen: so if you don't have other instances running, what does ./firefox do?
  713. # [13:32] <RyanVM> just use Trychooser wisely :)
  714. # [13:32] <RyanVM> baku: i.e. if you get bustage on one test/platform, only run that single one on a re-push to see if you fixed it
  715. # [13:32] <purezen> smaug: Nothing.. just using one core of my PC completely..
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  717. # [13:34] <@smaug> hmm, odd
  718. # [13:38] <@smaug> purezen: I assume you built opt build, not debug build
  719. # [13:38] <@smaug> debug might give some more information
  720. # [13:39] <purezen> smaug: yeah.. I didn't specify anything for debug..
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  722. # [13:43] <purezen> smaug: so, do I need to do that..? the normal build seemed to run fine on another PC i had used..
  723. # [13:44] <@smaug> purezen: you could also try to run firefox in a debugger
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  725. # [13:44] <@smaug> gdb --args ./firefox
  726. # [13:44] <@smaug> and then in gdb type 'run'
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  728. # [13:46] <purezen> smaug: there seems to be 'gdb-tests' and 'gdb-tests-gdb.py' in dist/bin.. no gdb..
  729. # [13:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/323f90679193 - Jonathan Kew - bug 827093 - cherry-pick Cham shaping fix from harfbuzz commit b1f4407..b8e8472. r=jdaggett
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  733. # [13:47] <purezen> smaug: ok..:) it seems to be working..
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  738. # [13:49] <purezen> smaug: ok.. a windows pops up saying.. '<menuitem id="context-copy"..
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  740. # [13:51] <@smaug> purezen: yellow background and red text?
  741. # [13:51] <purezen> smaug: red text.. but white background..
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  745. # [13:54] <@smaug> purezen: and is there some error message too?
  746. # [13:55] <purezen> smaug: I see this in the shell.. '[New Thread 0x7fffdc3ff700 (LWP 4680)]
  747. # [13:55] <purezen> [Thread 0x7fffe2eaf700 (LWP 4674) exited]'
  748. # [13:55] <@smaug> purezen: I mean in the window
  749. # [13:55] <@smaug> which has the <menuitem
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  751. # [13:56] <purezen> smaug: It's gone.. but I didn't see anything else..
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  754. # [13:58] <@smaug> I wonder if it is some XML parsing error
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  756. # [13:58] <purezen> smaug: ok.. cause I ran it again.. and there's no error.. only '_____^' after the menu item text..
  757. # [13:59] <@smaug> which might mean that for some reason xul files in .jar are corrupted
  758. # [13:59] <purezen> smaug: and ya, this time I see it yellow..:)
  759. # [13:59] <glandium> purezen: what is the complete message displayed?
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  761. # [14:01] <purezen> glandium: <menuitem id="context-copy followed by '______^'..
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  763. # [14:02] <glandium> purezen: and nothing else? not even something like "undefined entity" or something?
  764. # [14:02] <purezen> glandium: no..
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  770. # [14:03] <glazou> bonjour
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  793. # [14:39] <@smaug> hmm, how do I run crashtests
  794. # [14:39] <@smaug> just crashtests in some directory
  795. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> ./mach crashtest foo/bar/crashtests.list
  796. # [14:39] <@smaug> aha
  797. # [14:39] <@smaug> no documentation in mdn
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  799. # [14:46] <@smaug> but now there is
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  801. # [14:48] <Callek> Ms2ger: stop advocating this new mach thing
  802. # [14:48] <Callek> people might then start to trust mac mach contexts
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  804. # [14:49] <Ms2ger> Trust what?
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  807. # [14:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaf5f56832b4 - Florian Quèze - Bug 839106 - Add preferences to control the stun behavior, r=jesup.
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  810. # [14:56] <jesup> smaug: or even "./mach crashtest foo/bar"
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  812. # [14:57] <jesup> Trust me, I've done a lot of that lately :-( Done now :-)
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  821. # [15:01] <jfkthame> that's an intriguing checkin ^^
  822. # [15:01] <capella|away> bugzilla: on stun!
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  824. # [15:01] <jfkthame> "mozilla hackers: set your browsers to stun…."
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  838. # [15:17] <jesup> I hope akeybl or someone is going to process pending aurora requests today.....
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  840. # [15:17] <dougt> jesup: a-!
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  842. # [15:18] <jesup> Very funny.... :-)
  843. # [15:18] <Callek> jesup: today is a holiday in the US
  844. # [15:18] <Callek> (and most of canada)
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  846. # [15:18] <Callek> so why would alex do approvals :-P
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  849. # [15:19] <jesup> Are any of the approvers not in US/most-of-CA?
  850. # [15:20] <jesup> (one of the rare times I wish I was still a release driver.... of course I'd have a conflict-of-interest problem)
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  853. # [15:20] <Callek> jesup: I'm not sure if bajaj is based out of calif, but alex/lsblakk are
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  855. # [15:21] <glob> jesup, roc?
  856. # [15:21] <Callek> glob: roc is not a release driver
  857. # [15:22] <jesup> yeah
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  859. # [15:23] <jesup> bajaj is MV :-(
  860. # [15:24] <Callek> jesup: if its an urgent (before uplift) approval, I'd e-mail rel-mgmt about it and I bet one of them will mark it today, if its just the general "we have a lot of approvals" I'd also e-mail, but less chance of getting traction (imho)
  861. # [15:24] <Callek> I know at least one of them was planning to come around for at least a lil bit today
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  863. # [15:24] <Callek> (we do have 5 releases being shipped tomorrow)
  864. # [15:24] <jesup> I can still hope they will, on pre-release-day after sending the "tracking" list :-)
  865. # [15:25] <Callek> anyway good luck :-)
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  867. # [15:25] <jesup> and these are all on their tracking list :-)
  868. # [15:25] <jesup> thanks
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  873. # [15:27] * glob wonders where the list of release drivers is
  874. # [15:27] <jesup> All getUserMedia stuff
  875. # [15:27] <glob> i thought it was http://www.mozilla.org/about/drivers.html
  876. # [15:27] * jesup wonders if it's so crufty he's still on it
  877. # [15:27] <glob> Randell Jesup, rjesup@wgate.com
  878. # [15:27] <jesup> I am!!!!
  879. # [15:27] <jesup> And blizzard!
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  881. # [15:28] <jesup> Oooh, roc - and it's not a holiday there! (once he comes in for his tuesday)
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  883. # [15:28] <jesup> Of course, that's all horriblky wrong
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  885. # [15:28] <glob> jesup, you're also still in the bugzilla group
  886. # [15:28] <glob> (as is roc)
  887. # [15:28] <jesup> Oooooh
  888. # [15:29] <jesup> I suppose I was never *officially* removed as a driver. Once a driver, always a driver!
  889. # [15:30] <glob> bug 764694
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  892. # [15:31] <Callek> glob: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Drivers
  893. # [15:31] <Callek> :-P
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  895. # [15:32] <glob> Callek, right, but at the end of the data there's a list of people who have the ability to set the flags on bugzilla. my concern is to ensure that list is accurate
  896. # [15:32] <Callek> would you believe I can't find any doc that says Release Management ;-)
  897. # [15:32] <jesup> The illuminati...
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  901. # [15:34] <RyanVM> jesup: ship it
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  907. # [15:40] <glandium> erf, ben goodger is still on that list
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  917. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> gabor, you know about our infallible malloc, right?
  918. # [15:53] <gabor> Ms2ger: check msvc6
  919. # [15:54] <Ms2ger> Because we rely on infallible malloc working the way it should all over...
  920. # [15:54] <gabor> but having said that you are right I will change that...
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  956. # [16:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46897ceac253 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 809821. Update pixman to 0.29.2
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  977. # [16:47] <rohan> is this https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-gsoc-2013 the rough draft of projects to be decided upon for GSOC 2013? Or is there any other more definitive list?
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  986. # [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/645cb4fbf390 - Olli Pettay - Bug 842132 - Crash with contentEditable, selection.deleteFromDocument with overlapping selection ranges, r=tbsaunde
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  993. # [17:02] <jesup> derf: can I assume you'll get to the review for bug 842126 sometime today? Thanks
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  996. # [17:03] <jesup> whimboo: ping
  997. # [17:03] <jesup> Standard8: ping
  998. # [17:04] <derf> jesup: Yes, though it may be quite late.
  999. # [17:05] <jesup> derf: ok. I'll try to see if I can scare up someone else to review so if there are issues I have time to iterate (and if too late I may miss the last merge or be forced to stay up all night babysitting m-c)
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  1010. # [17:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dec45f30b77 - Ben Turner - Bug 832109 - 'crash in Telephony::RILTelephonyCallback::CallStateChanged'. r=jlebar.
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  1012. # [17:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4514f27f41ff - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 645cb4fbf390 (bug 842132) for build bustage.
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  1016. # [17:18] <RyanVM> jesup: now that webrtc crashtests are re-enabled (and we've already hit intermittent failures on them), can we prioritize getting them fixed up?
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  1019. # [17:19] <Callek> RyanVM: you know today is a US holiday, right -- and you can take the day off? :-P
  1020. # [17:19] <Callek> RyanVM: or are you over in London working?
  1021. # [17:19] <RyanVM> Callek: I'm not working from the US :)
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  1023. # [17:20] <Callek> I'm living in the US right now, but working from HK
  1024. # [17:20] <RyanVM> heh
  1025. # [17:20] <Callek> I wonder if the fact that my mind is there, but my body is in the US counts as outsourcing jobs, or what
  1026. # [17:21] <Callek> and no I'm not doing http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CFAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fit.slashdot.org%2Fstory%2F13%2F01%2F16%2F0354218%2Femployee-outsourced-programming-job-to-china-spent-days-websurfing&ei=OVQiUcKvOcq0iQKImIGoDg&usg=AFQjCNHRGhLKXIt21IVBXbmERrVA4k8vmw&sig2=G_i3ETyeWiuRg4KVQvzyiw&bvm=bv.42661473,d.cGE
  1027. # [17:21] <Callek> stupid google
  1028. # [17:21] <@smaug> argh
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  1030. # [17:21] <jesup> RyanVM: Of course. We have one crash we've hit twice last I checked (bug 841981). Before re-landing I retriggered every platform about a dozen or two times (across several tries) with no hits, so we're in a lot better shape now.
  1031. # [17:21] <Callek> no I'm not doing http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/01/16/0354218/employee-outsourced-programming-job-to-china-spent-days-websurfing
  1032. # [17:21] <@smaug> why oh why my local compilation works just fine
  1033. # [17:22] <RyanVM> smaug: you have to opt in to warnings as errors
  1034. # [17:22] <Callek> smaug: -Werror ?
  1035. # [17:22] <RyanVM> in your mozconfig
  1036. # [17:22] * @smaug hates our "warnings being treated as errors"
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  1038. # [17:22] * Callek is happy he got that without any context!
  1039. # [17:22] <@smaug> makes no sense to have different defaults for -Werror in tbpl than elsewhere
  1040. # [17:22] <Callek> smaug: it actually does when you consider the variety of possible compilers
  1041. # [17:23] <Callek> but I do feel your pain
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  1046. # [17:24] <RyanVM> smaug: what Callek said
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  1048. # [17:26] <@smaug> Callek: the fact that you got that without any context tells a lot
  1049. # [17:26] <@smaug> defaults are wrong
  1050. # [17:26] <Callek> smaug: its one of the few ways I could imagine that something would work for you, but not in tinderbox
  1051. # [17:26] <@smaug> we should be able to force similar checks everywhere
  1052. # [17:27] <Callek> if it wasn't someone like you, bz, etc. I wouldn't have guessed that first
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  1056. # [17:30] <@smaug> RyanVM: thanks
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  1059. # [17:31] * @smaug will land it real soon with int32_t hoping it works
  1060. # [17:31] <RyanVM> push to inbound? :)
  1061. # [17:31] <RyanVM> getting close to uplift time
  1062. # [17:31] <@smaug> this patch needs to be in aurora
  1063. # [17:32] <glandium> smaug: --enable-warnings-as-errors is *very* likely to break builds with gcc >= 4.8 and clang >= 3.2
  1064. # [17:32] <@smaug> and better to land before uplift
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  1067. # [17:32] <glandium> it's already likely to break builds with clang (any version)
  1068. # [17:32] <glandium> (on linux)
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  1072. # [17:34] <@smaug> passing in32_t as a parameter to a method which takes uint32_t doesn't warn, right?
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  1077. # [17:36] <RyanVM> smaug: why does that matter? It's not like we won't be doing any more inbound->m-c merges today
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  1080. # [17:37] <@smaug> RyanVM: I mean, doesn't really matter where I land the patch
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  1082. # [17:37] <RyanVM> it does for keeping m-c green
  1083. # [17:37] <@smaug> and I don't have m-i anywhere nearby, and don't know how to land from m-c tree to m-i
  1084. # [17:38] <@smaug> and not going to learn that right now :)
  1085. # [17:38] <darkowlzz> Ryan , smaug can you help me in implementing Conversion in this http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#rules-for-parsing-floating-point-number-values . Point No. 15
  1086. # [17:38] * @smaug crosses fingers, maybe this patch works
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  1088. # [17:40] <@smaug> RyanVM: I think you and edmorley|mtg have convinced me to switch to m-i.
  1089. # [17:40] <@smaug> but not right now
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  1091. # [17:40] <jcranmer> glandium: I have to disable --enable-warnings-as-errors when I try try with clang on linux :-(
  1092. # [17:40] <RyanVM> smaug: fair enough :)
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  1096. # [17:42] <glandium> jcranmer: we have clang available on linux on try?
  1097. # [17:42] <jcranmer> glandium: yes
  1098. # [17:42] <glandium> jcranmer: i wish we have gcc 4.7 too :(
  1099. # [17:43] <RyanVM> smaug: if you want, I can push your patch to inbound
  1100. # [17:43] <jcranmer> glandium: you have to change the releng manifest and a mozconfig or three to get it to work
  1101. # [17:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/148ea95584b4 - Olli Pettay - Bug 842132 - Crash with contentEditable, selection.deleteFromDocument with overlapping selection ranges, r=tbsaunde
  1102. # [17:43] <RyanVM> nevermind then :)
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  1105. # [17:44] <@smaug> RyanVM: crossing fingers
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  1107. # [17:44] <@smaug> RyanVM: if that patch needs to be backed out, then you can land the next hack to m-i :)
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  1110. # [17:44] <NeilAway> or you could use try?
  1111. # [17:45] <NeilAway> or does try not do w-a-e?
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  1113. # [17:45] <RyanVM> Try does
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  1115. # [17:45] <RyanVM> it uses the same mozconfig
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  1117. # [17:46] <jcranmer> I have to disable w-a-e when I push to try
  1118. # [17:47] <glandium> jcranmer: when you push to try with the standard setup, you don't have to, that's RyanVM's point
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  1120. # [17:48] <msucan> glandium: is gcc 4.7 faster than clang, or on par?
  1121. # [17:48] <jryans> tried asking in #intro, thought i would try here as well... trying to get started with firefox development on osx 10.8. i've got it working without ccache, but if i enable ccache, i get it "checking what kind of list files are supported by the linker... configure: error: couldn't compile a simple C file". any ideas?
  1122. # [17:49] <glandium> msucan: 10% slower on a clobber build on my machine
  1123. # [17:50] <glandium> to build ; for generated code, i don't know
  1124. # [17:50] <@smaug> on my machines clang is not faster than gcc, at least last time I tried
  1125. # [17:50] <@smaug> in fact, clang was tiny bit slower
  1126. # [17:52] <jcranmer> I think in terms of generated code, clang is slightly behind gcc
  1127. # [17:54] <glandium> jcranmer: i think it does some things better, and some other things worse, the question is how this averages
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  1129. # [17:54] <msucan> thanks, i was only wonder if it's faster
  1130. # [17:55] <msucan> *wondering
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  1141. # [18:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e92ba60695d - Daniel Holbert - Bug 841261: Use init list instead of assignment in nsFrameIterator constructor. r=mats
  1142. # [18:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae60b8d343e5 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 840209: Make existing implicit char-conversion explicit (w/ assertion for sanity-checking), in txXPCOMExtensionFunction.cpp. r=peterv
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  1145. # [18:06] <JosiahOne> Is the fact that "Bug 836654 - IndexedDB test failures without clobber" keeps me from doing incremental builds only going to be a one time thing. That is, after I deleted my obj-dir and later build again, is it going to cause problems?
  1146. # [18:07] <@khuey> wrong bug #?
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  1148. # [18:07] <gcp> JosiahOne: everything that changes CLOBBER will have it. Most bugs won't, some will.
  1149. # [18:08] <JosiahOne> gcp: But since I already updated it won't happen again for THAT bug right?
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  1151. # [18:08] <gcp> JosiahOne: But consider it a "one time" thing, though you'll surely encounter more bugs like it.
  1152. # [18:08] <gcp> JosiahOne: correct.
  1153. # [18:08] <JosiahOne> gcp: That's good. Building without incremental is getting longer than ever. It takes an hour now.
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  1163. # [18:18] <jesup> JosiahOne: My cold builds (linux64) have gone from ~12:00 to around 14-14:30 in the last year and a half, roughly, so not a huge increase. How much ram do you have?
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  1165. # [18:20] <JosiahOne> jesup: 8 GB. Though probably two GB when I start the build. Less than 500 MB while it's building.
  1166. # [18:20] <JosiahOne> jesup: Mine used to take only 20 minutes, but there seems to have been a change. Maybe on my end, but it is annoying none the less.
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  1168. # [18:22] <jesup> The amount of ram needed to link (and build in general, though link is by far the biggest issue) has been racheting up. 8GB *should* be ok, 16GB would be preferred. Perhaps other things on your system are using more memory?
  1169. # [18:23] <JosiahOne> jesup: Indeed. I just realized Finder is using 1 GB all by itself?!?! Odd...
  1170. # [18:23] <glandium> JosiahOne: you're on mac? disable spotlight
  1171. # [18:23] <JosiahOne> glandium: Disable it? How do you do that?
  1172. # [18:24] <JosiahOne> I didn't know you could.
  1173. # [18:24] <glandium> JosiahOne: there are command lines that i forget ; google for it
  1174. # [18:24] <JosiahOne> glandium: Okay.
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  1176. # [18:25] <JosiahOne> glandium: Done.
  1177. # [18:25] <JosiahOne> glandium: But why did I do that? Does spotlight use a lot of ram?
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  1179. # [18:27] <glandium> JosiahOne: it indexes data on disks ; it means it is a) likely to do so while you're building and b) is going to index your build tree as well
  1180. # [18:27] <glandium> overall, that's a recipe for slowness
  1181. # [18:28] <glandium> you can solve b) by making spotlight skip the build tree in the search prefs, but that doesn't solve a
  1182. # [18:28] <JosiahOne> glandium: Ah, that makes sense. I didn't realize it indexes when it detects a large change. I thought it just indexes every few hours.
  1183. # [18:28] <JosiahOne> Alright. I still wonder why Finder is hogging memory though?
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  1186. # [18:30] <JosiahOne> glandium: Ah, but I do have over 1 GB of free memory now.
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  1216. # [18:51] <JosiahOne> You knows anything about accesskeys?
  1217. # [18:52] <JosiahOne> Specifically advanced.dtd
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  1238. # [19:03] <NeilAway> JosiahOne: that's a bit vague, so I'm going to guess that you want to know that you're allowed identical access keys on controls in different tabs
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  1240. # [19:04] <hsivonen> does Ubuntu ship Firefox on ARM?
  1241. # [19:04] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: Actually two questions. One, why are all keys a single letter, and what am I allowed to use. Second, are they necessary?
  1242. # [19:04] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: I added a checkbox to preferences.
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  1244. # [19:04] <hsivonen> (info from packages.ubuntu.com is inconsistent with what I've seen on PowerPC, so I don't trust it to be right for ARM)
  1245. # [19:05] <JosiahOne> hsivonen: Ubuntu has a version for ARM?
  1246. # [19:05] <hsivonen> JosiahOne: yes
  1247. # [19:05] <JosiahOne> hsivonen: Interesting.
  1248. # [19:05] <JosiahOne> hsivonen: A desktop version?
  1249. # [19:06] <hsivonen> is ARMv7 Hard Float a different calling convention than the one used for Android and Firefox OS for ARMv7?
  1250. # [19:06] <hsivonen> JosiahOne: yes
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  1252. # [19:06] <JosiahOne> hsivonen: Alright, good to know.
  1253. # [19:06] <glandium> hsivonen: istr they have the same calling convention
  1254. # [19:08] <hsivonen> glandium: is it feasible to build a shared object that depends only on a given C API and on kernel traps so that the same .so can be loaded at runtime on all of Ubuntu on ARM, Android on ARMv7 and Firefox OS on ARMv7?
  1255. # [19:08] <glandium> hsivonen: and istr badly... android uses softfp, which passes float point args in the integer registers
  1256. # [19:08] <glandium> hard float uses floating point registers
  1257. # [19:08] <hsivonen> glandium: is the calling convention the same if there are no floating-point arguments?
  1258. # [19:09] <glandium> hsivonen: yes
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  1260. # [19:09] <glandium> hsivonen: but you'll have a problem with the libc not being the same at all
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  1262. # [19:09] <avih> vlad: how can I tell if the high precision timer is engaged? i was testing tab animation timing on 2 systems, and on one of them i'm getting very frequent too-early to way-too-early timer callbacks (upto -19ms early!)
  1263. # [19:09] <hsivonen> glandium: can't libc be statically linked so that only kernel traps matter?
  1264. # [19:09] <glandium> hsivonen: starting with the fact that linking against android's libc requires "libc.so" when linking against glibc's requires "libc.so.6"
  1265. # [19:10] <glandium> hsivonen: depends what you use the libc for
  1266. # [19:10] <hsivonen> glandium: what sort of uses preclude static linking?
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  1269. # [19:11] <hsivonen> and how does Ubuntu for phones deal with Android HAL if the rest of the system is glibc-oriented? do they use Carsten Munk's hack? (I don't recall how it's named.)
  1270. # [19:11] <glandium> hsivonen: iirc at least tls and things that rely on nss (not our nss)
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  1272. # [19:12] <hsivonen> glandium: is TLS in glibc these days???
  1273. # [19:12] <glandium> hsivonen: afaik ubuntu for android just uses a chroot
  1274. # [19:13] <glandium> hsivonen: there are subtle interdependencies between the various libs, and libpthread is part of the glibc bundle iirc)
  1275. # [19:13] <glandium> hsivonen: it would probably be much simpler for you to just build a shared object for each
  1276. # [19:14] <glandium> hsivonen: well, one for android/b2g, and one for glibc
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  1278. # [19:14] <hsivonen> glandium: I see. thanks
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  1285. # [19:20] <hsivonen> Is Firefox OS always ARMv7 or is ARMv6 supported, too?
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  1288. # [19:21] <fabrice> hsivonen: there's an raspberry Pi port which is armv6
  1289. # [19:21] <hub> hsivonen: I don't think we build for armv6 at all for b2g
  1290. # [19:21] <hsivonen> fabrice, hub: thanks
  1291. # [19:21] <glandium> hsivonen: welcome to the ARM world
  1292. # [19:22] <hub> fabrice: oh.
  1293. # [19:22] <fabrice> we don't actively maintain that, but I hope this is not broken
  1294. # [19:22] <hub> I forgot about that one
  1295. # [19:22] <glandium> hsivonen: note we support armv6 for android, too
  1296. # [19:22] <hsivonen> glandium: that I knew about
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  1299. # [19:23] <hsivonen> Is Firefox OS still similar enough to Android that one .so could work on both for ARMvN?
  1300. # [19:23] <hub> hsivonen: it is built against the NDK in both cases
  1301. # [19:23] <hsivonen> hub: thanks
  1302. # [19:24] <fabrice> hsivonen: it's more a matter of having an ICS base
  1303. # [19:24] <hsivonen> fabrice: ok.
  1304. # [19:25] <hsivonen> do ICS-and-later ARMv6 phones exist?
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  1308. # [19:27] <glandium> hsivonen: if your .so only depends on some kernel interfaces exposed by the libc, if shouldn't matter what version of android devices are running, besides the kernel and libc version
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  1310. # [19:28] <glandium> hsivonen: (i mean, depending what your .so wants to use)
  1311. # [19:28] <glandium> that is, it pretty much has nothing to do with b2g being based on ics
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  1313. # [19:28] <hsivonen> glandium: let's suppose a .so that wants to accept some buffers over a C API, do computation and return some buffers
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  1317. # [19:30] <glandium> hsivonen: if it's not using something that android 2.x doesn't have, nor floating points, there should be no problem
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  1319. # [19:30] <hsivonen> glandium: thanks
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  1321. # [19:31] <hsivonen> glandium: do floating points only matter at the API boundary or also within the lib?
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  1326. # [19:32] <hsivonen> oh and is Android x86 or Android mipsel going to have official builds?
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  1328. # [19:32] <hsivonen> do they even work yet?
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  1334. # [19:39] <glandium> hsivonen: using floating point will use specific instructions sets that aren't on all arm cpus (and there are different such sets)
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  1336. # [19:39] <glandium> hsivonen: we have x86 builds, and they work, they are not released, though ; mips isn't supported yet (lack custom linker support)
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  1338. # [19:39] <hsivonen> glandium: ouch
  1339. # [19:39] <hsivonen> glandium: ouch for the floating point stuff
  1340. # [19:40] <hsivonen> I wonder if Ubuntu on phones requires hardware support for both kinds of instructions
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  1343. # [19:40] <hsivonen> if the Ubuntu land is hard float for compat with desktop packages and the Android land is soft float for compat with HAL blobs
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  1354. # [19:45] <glandium> hsivonen: i suspect they have a different version for different hardware
  1355. # [19:46] <hsivonen> glandium: I thought the point was to be able to use the same packages with desktop (which is ARMv7 HF)
  1356. # [19:46] <glandium> hsivonen: then maybe they just support a subset of devices
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  1362. # [19:54] <jwir3> hm... is it expected that there aren't FIREFOX_19_0bX tags on aurora?
  1363. # [19:54] <jwir3> shouldn't there be tags for all releases up to the current release (aurora should be 20 right now, IIUC)
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  1368. # [19:56] <WeirdAl> I wonder if I should apologize to mano for dropping an 82KB patch in his lap... even if a large part of it is comments and tests
  1369. # [19:56] <Mossop_away> jwir3: No, releases and betas get tagged in the release or beta repo
  1370. # [19:56] <jwir3> ahum
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  1372. # [19:57] <jwir3> Mossop_away: What's the easiest way to compare the changes between two releases, then? E.g. if I want to compare changes from 19_0_b2 -> 20_0 tip?
  1373. # [19:57] <jwir3> Mossop_away: Ah, wait, I could probably just pull the actual rev #
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  1375. # [19:58] <Mossop_away> jwir3: Do it from the release repo, that will be the only one that actually contains the changesets you're interested in
  1376. # [19:58] <jcranmer> WeirdAl: want to review my 300KB patch as punishment? :-)
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  1378. # [19:58] <WeirdAl> :p
  1379. # [19:58] <WeirdAl> if it's layout, NO
  1380. # [19:59] <jcranmer> I guarantee it's not layout
  1381. # [19:59] <jcranmer> hmm
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  1383. # [19:59] <WeirdAl> is it an area I'm remotely competent in?
  1384. # [19:59] <jcranmer> this says it's only 159K
  1385. # [19:59] <jwir3> Mossop_away: So, something like | hg diff -r FIREFOX_19_0b2_RELEASE -r FIREFOX_20_0a_RELEASE | on mozilla-release?
  1386. # [19:59] <jcranmer> I was probably mentally including the 130K patches it applies on top of
  1387. # [20:00] * WeirdAl raises an eyebrow
  1388. # [20:00] <jcranmer> WeirdAl: does cpp-headerparser sound like something you're competent in? :-)
  1389. # [20:00] <WeirdAl> no
  1390. # [20:00] <WeirdAl> never even heard of it
  1391. # [20:00] <jcranmer> [thats my patch name]
  1392. # [20:00] <Mossop_away> jwir3: Should work
  1393. # [20:00] <jcranmer> [it's c-c code]
  1394. # [20:01] <WeirdAl> cycle collection? count me out.
  1395. # [20:01] <jcranmer> comm-central
  1396. # [20:01] <WeirdAl> oh
  1397. # [20:01] <WeirdAl> I haven't seen c-c code in a looooooooooooooooong time
  1398. # [20:01] <jcranmer> is it a bad sone that the smallest patch in my queue is a mere 12K?
  1399. # [20:02] <jcranmer> s/sone/sign/
  1400. # [20:02] <WeirdAl> no :)
  1401. # [20:02] <jcranmer> wait, here's a 6.8K one
  1402. # [20:03] <jcranmer> 67,159,24,11,26,41,52,6.8,51,28,12
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  1406. # [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bd8f038263d - Jim Chen - Bug 841507 - Mask events when removing composition; r=cpeterson
  1407. # [20:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf0437ccd013 - Jim Chen - Bug 838177 - Add more debugging output to GeckoEditable and GeckoInputConnection; r=cpeterson
  1408. # [20:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2eec9cb2be86 - Jim Chen - Bug 841036 - Set default composition color to text field color; r=cpeterson
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  1430. # [20:25] <vlad> avih: hmm
  1431. # [20:26] <vlad> avih: in the high precision timers bug there's a timer test tool you can compile
  1432. # [20:26] <vlad> that'll tell you what the current system precision is
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  1434. # [20:26] <vlad> (it's global)
  1435. # [20:27] <avih> vlad: i tried printing the member which represent a high precision request, and it was always false on both my systems..
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  1438. # [20:28] <avih> vlad: how should i compile it? make? plain gcc? vs project?
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  1441. # [20:31] <vlad> just cl
  1442. # [20:31] <vlad> I think there's a command line in the file :)
  1443. # [20:33] <avih> vlad: do you recall the bug number?
  1444. # [20:33] <vlad> 731974
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  1448. # [20:34] <avih> thx
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  1452. # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/162a860a2b39 - Robert Longson - Bug 842272: Don't destroy SVGElementFactory's hash table if it was never initialized. r=dholbert
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  1454. # [20:40] <avih> vlad: so, on both system i'm getting: "Current resolution: 1.000000 ms, range 0.500000 - 15.600100 ms". what does that mean, and on what does "current" depend?
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  1457. # [20:40] <vlad> curernt is what's set
  1458. # [20:40] <vlad> 1ms is the value that firefox requests (and other apps might too)
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  1460. # [20:40] <vlad> the range is just the valid range on the entire system
  1461. # [20:41] <avih> on the system which usually doesn't show early callbacks it's typically <1ms early, which is fine since the delay is floor of duration
  1462. # [20:41] <vlad> if both systems are showing 1ms, then it's not a timer issue but something else
  1463. # [20:41] <vlad> is the bad one slower?
  1464. # [20:41] <avih> yes
  1465. # [20:42] <avih> but it's fast enough for the required animation, possibly except the first frame or two
  1466. # [20:42] <vlad> like could it just be taking too long for those frames?
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  1468. # [20:42] <avih> sure it can, but it sets a delay to some timestamp in the future, and returns 18ms earlier than that deadline...
  1469. # [20:43] <vlad> wait, sets a delay?
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  1471. # [20:43] <vlad> how?
  1472. # [20:43] <avih> (not all the time, mostly it's just few ms early)
  1473. # [20:43] <avih> erm.. in RefreshDriver::ScheduleNextTick (or so), it calculate the next timestamp, then issues a oneshot to (destination - now)
  1474. # [20:44] <vlad> oh that
  1475. # [20:44] <vlad> yeah, i thoguht you meant the code was doing a setTimeout or something
  1476. # [20:44] <vlad> I dunno -- I mean, ultimately it still goes through nsITimer
  1477. # [20:45] <avih> vlad: also, if it returns way too early (more than 1/rateDuration), then your calculation is flawed as it targets the same timestamp which was already targetted earlier
  1478. # [20:45] <vlad> hmmm
  1479. # [20:46] <vlad> I dunno if it can be flawed, I mean that's til lthe valid time
  1480. # [20:46] <avih> no. sec, let me look at the code
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  1482. # [20:46] <vlad> avih: can you file a bug/send me mail? I'm about to run out for a bit
  1483. # [20:46] <avih> but while i'm at it, what about the timer data which i posted? is that considered high resolution for us?
  1484. # [20:46] <vlad> sorry :/
  1485. # [20:46] <vlad> yes
  1486. # [20:46] <vlad> we request 1ms when we're doing high resolution
  1487. # [20:47] <vlad> but remember that we still go through nsITimer
  1488. # [20:47] <vlad> and its crazyness
  1489. # [20:47] <vlad> so it could be butchering things if it thought that it fell behind and needs to catch up
  1490. # [20:47] <vlad> I really want to remove that crap
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  1492. # [20:48] <avih> the error starts with this: int numElapsedIntervals = static_cast<int>((aNowTime - mTargetTime) / mRateDuration);
  1493. # [20:48] <avih> aNowTime is typically early since you target floor of last-theoretical-tick + duration
  1494. # [20:48] <vlad> avih: try https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590422 btw
  1495. # [20:49] <avih> so if it's too early, elapsed turnes out -1
  1496. # [20:49] <vlad> mm, yes
  1497. # [20:49] <avih> but only if it's early by more than 1/duration
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  1499. # [20:49] <vlad> that's bad
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  1501. # [20:49] <vlad> file a bug?
  1502. # [20:49] <avih> i will, wanted to hear your oppinion on it first
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  1506. # [20:51] <avih> but the really bad issue is that it can return too early. this is what causes our average tab animation intervals (from telemetry) to be around 15ms instead of 16-17ms. there are consistently few quite-shorter-than-required frames
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  1511. # [20:53] <avih> the fix for this one is easy, never let numElapsedIntervals be negative. but returning so early is not typical. returning somewhat early by few ms can happen quite a lot though
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  1513. # [20:53] <Cork> can anything except the main thread in firefox work with browser.sessionHistory(readonly) and the cookiemanager(rw)?
  1514. # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/584660a01e64 - Randell Jesup - Bug 796463: enable PeerConnection by default r=roc
  1515. # [20:55] <NeilAway> JosiahOne: they're for accessibility. On sane OSes you can press Alt+letter to click or focus the control, and screen readers can also use them as shortcuts.
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  1549. # [21:27] <rnewman> vladan: ping on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841244
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  1551. # [21:27] <rnewman> we would like to land this *today*
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  1567. # [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e0f106fd859 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 841244 - More Telemetry probes for Firefox Health Report. r=rnewman,gps,vladan
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  1591. # [22:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69cc1bc86785 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 842017 - Remove broken support for displaying window.status / window.defaultStatus. r=felipe
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  1597. # [22:14] <@gavin> NeilAway: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc380df34bd6 is going to break http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/browser/nsBrowserStatusHandler.js#340
  1598. # [22:15] <@gavin> Callek: ^
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  1600. # [22:15] <nemo> hm
  1601. # [22:15] <nemo> 15:57 < inu> gah, these last 2 releases of firefox for windows 8 are just shameful, after a few dozen of pages open\closed it just becomes so slow, it takes like 10sec just to be able to open my bookmark dropdown list, have to reboot the damn thing all the time
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  1603. # [22:15] <nemo> 15:58 < inu> if no addons are loaded it takes more pages but happens anyway
  1604. # [22:15] <nemo> Anyone have any ideas? I was thinking maybe trying vacuuming
  1605. # [22:15] <nemo> oh. profiler maybe
  1606. # [22:15] <nemo> is that profiler for websites, or does it work on the browser too?
  1607. # [22:16] <gregglind> is there any slick (already existing system) for doing 'live fx hacking' (unzip `omni.ja; edit, rezip, reload`) ?
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  1610. # [22:16] <@roc> nemo: bug 832641 maybe?
  1611. # [22:19] <nemo> roc: huh. but that was fixed in beta on the 23rd
  1612. # [22:19] <nemo> roc: so. it should be in FF19
  1613. # [22:19] <@roc> it sounds just like what that person said though
  1614. # [22:19] <nemo> yes
  1615. # [22:19] <nemo> trying to get him to answer
  1616. # [22:19] <Jesse> roc: you should vote for me because i will not blow up the moon!
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  1622. # [22:22] <@roc> I dunno. How are you on open-access research?
  1623. # [22:22] <cpearce> hmmm, did the latest nightly update hose anyone else's profile?
  1624. # [22:23] <nemo> Jesse: blowing up the moon seems like it would have some benefits tho. no more leap seconds
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  1630. # [22:30] <@roc> jcranmer: do you know why http://dxr.mozilla.org/search?tree=mozilla-central&q=markabsoluteframesfordisplaylist&redirect=false is returning no results?
  1631. # [22:30] <@roc> oh it's case sensitive
  1632. # [22:30] <@roc> it's confusing because if you allow the redirect it finds the definition case-senistively
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  1635. # [22:31] <jcranmer> I haven't touched the search of dxr in a while
  1636. # [22:31] <jcranmer> but the people who are working on it now aren't here today
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  1647. # [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40f6ab9cf2f3 - Chris Pearce - Bug 839031 - Report Content-Type on WMFByteStream to faciliate WMF selecting the right decoder. r=padenot
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  1649. # [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/987a4c1c0a68 - Chris Pearce - Bug 839031 - Blacklist FLAC MFT DLL. r=padenot
  1650. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f598352c7f7f - Chris Pearce - Bug 839055 - Refuse to play a video file with WMF which has corrupt or unplayable video or audio streams. r=padenot
  1651. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83e2c0975a62 - Chris Pearce - Bug 839031 - Implement WMFByteStream::Read(). r=padenot
  1652. # [22:43] <Jesse> nemo: we'll still have tidal forces from the sun. and i don't think we want to blow up the sun.
  1653. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e50df4a601e4 - Chris Pearce - Bug 839031 - Store the Content-Type/MIME-Type on MediaResource. r=padenot
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  1674. # [23:15] <dhylands> I'm trying to figure out where the "load" event mentioned here would originate from: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/chrome/content/shell.js#448 Anybody got any ideas?
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  1693. # [23:37] <NeilAway> gavin: thanks
  1694. # [23:39] * NeilAway will probably band-aid it by passing the current browser while working on a real fix
  1695. # [23:40] <NeilAway> gregglind: build it yourself, then the files are already unpacked
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  1699. # [23:41] <gregglind> I would rather an solution if any that doesn't require people building their own. Ideal use case would be for UX / front-endier peeps hacking on the chrome.
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  1718. # [23:56] <markh> "wham, bam, thankyou cam" on the ESS feed of The Age
  1719. # [23:56] <markh> heycam is famous? ;)
  1720. # [23:57] <markh> err - RSS
  1721. # [23:57] <heycam> hrm?
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  1724. # [23:58] <markh> oh damn - story about the dashboard cams in that meteor event...
  1725. # [23:58] <heycam> oh :p
  1726. # [23:58] * heycam didn't think he'd done anything newsworthy!
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