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# Session Start: Thu Feb 21 00:00:00 2013
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# [00:01] <bent> sewardj, that's working!
# [00:01] <sewardj> bent: don't say that till you get something sane out of it :)
# [00:01] <bent> i have one realistic stack trace!
# [00:02] <sewardj> "realistic" makes it sound like it's faked :)
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# [00:02] <sewardj> but .. yeh .. good
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# [00:05] <jlebar> This is a stupid question, but if I'm communicating with a server over HTTPS, the HTTP headers are encrypted, right?
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# [00:06] <Matti> jlebar: sure
# [00:06] <jlebar> Yeah, okay.
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# [00:06] <jlebar> thanks.
# [00:06] <Matti> do you need the headers for debugging ?
# [00:06] <jlebar> Matti: no, I'm just trying to figure out how to respond to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=840299
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# [00:07] <sewardj> bent: is midnight here, giving up for the day ..
# [00:07] <bent> sewardj, thanks a bunch for your help
# [00:07] <tanvi> which mxr do we use to see source code of extensions?
# [00:07] <sewardj> bent: np; hope you can find the problem
# [00:07] <bent> me too!
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# [00:08] <tanvi> found it - https://mxr.mozilla.org/addons/
# [00:08] <Matti> jlebar: how could a https be cached by an ISP unless they are doing MITM
# [00:09] <jlebar> Matti: I think he's saying they are doing MITM.
# [00:09] <jlebar> Matti: This whole thing is quite odd.
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# [00:09] <jlebar> Matti: If I'm a MITM, why should I respect your HTTP headers that you never intended for me to read?
# [00:09] <Matti> it's not uncommon for companies with a proxy to do this
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# [00:10] <jlebar> Matti: huh
# [00:10] <Matti> the browsers have the root certificate from the company installed
# [00:10] <jlebar> Matti: I see
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# [00:11] <@dolske> Waldo: I would have gone with "unbiggen", I think.
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# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08fb882546da - Phil Ringnalda - Back out ce4f4d4d69d9 (bug 771578) for xpcshell reporting bustage
# [00:21] <philor> okay, who else wants a backout?
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# [00:21] <seth> is there some way to retrigger a build that hasn't finished yet?
# [00:21] <seth> hitting the normal retrigger button gives me an error
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# [00:22] <philor> seth: hasn't finished but is running (dark grey, normal text) or hasn't started (light grey, italic)?
# [00:22] <seth> philor: hasn't started, it seems
# [00:23] <seth> philor: i wanted to trigger a bunch of runs because i'm testing an intermittent failure
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# [00:23] <philor> seth: hit the link to self-serve that appears at the top right of the entire push when you hover over it, and do it from there, but you'll have to install an extension like Tab Submit to make it not be a total PITA
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# [00:24] <seth> philor: hehe ok, thanks for the guidance. i'll look into tab submit
# [00:24] <philor> seth: oh, nevermind, you can't do that, you can only cancel pending, which I've done before
# [00:24] <philor> followed by screaming
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# [00:25] <seth> ah drat! well its ok; i can wait til one run finishes
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# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a77f4a652627 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out bb4938013af5 and 9bee7d808f97 (bug 827976) for marionette bustage
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# [00:28] <philor> does nmatsakis want a backout too, while I'm in the neighborhood?
# [00:29] <philor> and keeping in mind that I have about 15 minutes left, and if I don't get it cleaned up inbound will be closed until probably 9pm unless someone takes it over
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# [00:30] <philor> oh, we just didn't run a single browser-chrome on vladan's push
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# [00:38] <mak> philor: it seems to break mochitest-other though, even without waiting for mochitest-browser
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# [00:38] <mbrubeck> I'm happy to take over and back out the wrong things again if you need me to
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# [00:39] <philor> mbrubeck: yay! ALL THE THINGS
# [00:40] <philor> I don't have a clue about the linux64 m5 notification if that doesn't turn out to be vladan the One True Whipping Boy
# [00:40] <philor> and with 2724 pending jobs, I really don't feel a terribly strong desire to reopen as soon as possible
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# [00:45] <philor> hmm, I'm about to look at vladan's bug to see whether there's a link to a perfectly good try push, which would of course have clobbered, in it - who wants to bet on what I'll find?
# [00:45] <mak> 1 eurocent
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# [00:45] <philor> hahaha, builds only, including a red Windows build :D
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# [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0fa4e994a881 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 842577 - Remove from History is visible for a paused download.
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# [00:54] <NeilAway> wow, stephend, that's a name from the past!
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# [00:56] <nemo> hum. does http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase327.xhtml seem stuttery to you guys?
# [00:56] <nemo> seems more noticeable on linux than OSX
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# [00:56] <nemo> but. still kinda hesitaty in OSX. also. text flickers in OSX
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# [00:57] <Jesse> NeilAway: ?
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# [00:57] <NeilAway> Jesse: well, I remember him as mailnews QA
# [00:57] <dholbert> nemo, stuttery for me on linux, yeah
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# [00:58] <Jesse> NeilAway: he works on mozilla's web qa team. "technutz", on the other hand, that's a name from the past ;)
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# [00:59] <nemo> dholbert: :-/ I've noticed this when attempting to use keyframes.
# [00:59] <nemo> dholbert: I was hoping CSS animation would improve smoothness/performance
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# [01:09] <@gavin> mmc: are you going to take care of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829832#c90 ?
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# [01:17] <eeejay> when i make an idl and add it with XPIDLSRCS, etc. it shows up fine in desktop Components.interfaces, but not in b2g. anybody know why that may be?
# [01:18] <@khuey> either you're not rebuilding hard enough or something is missing from b2g's package-manifest.in
# [01:18] <jgilbert> any ideas on this configure error while building b2g?: checking whether linker creates PT_GNU_RELRO segments... configure: error: couldn't compile a simple C file
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# [01:19] <eeejay> khuey, thanks
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# [01:20] <@khuey> eeejay: are there other XPIDLSRCS in that directory?
# [01:20] <eeejay> khuey, other idl files? yeah. none show up
# [01:22] <@khuey> it probably doesn't work in packaged desktop builds either then
# [01:22] <tbsaunde> jgilbert: log at config.log ?
# [01:22] <@khuey> eeejay: you need XPIDL_MODULE=foo in your makefile.in
# [01:23] <eeejay> khuey, hm. i didn't touch the desktop 's package-manifest.in either.. i guess i need to?
# [01:23] <@khuey> and foo.xpt in your package-manifest.in
# [01:23] <@khuey> in the 27 or so different package-manifest-ins
# [01:23] <jgilbert> tbsaunde, cool, didn't see that. Looks like it's trying to use ccache wrong or something
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# [01:23] <eeejay> khuey, thanks.
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# [01:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9b2eda41c48d - Steven Michaud - Bug 833936 - NPNVcontentsScaleFactor inadvertently not supported for NPN_GetValue() when called from OOP plugins. r=bgirard a=lsblakk
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# [01:28] <gregglind> in retina css, do the moz-image-region stay hte same?
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# [01:29] <@dolske> gregglind: hmm, no.
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# [01:30] <gregglind> okay, is there an expert on this, and/or how much do I need to fuss / test here :)
# [01:30] <gregglind> shorlander gave me retina icons as well, but I have no idea of how to debug them :)
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# [01:31] <gregglind> looks like it's just 2x everywhere :)
# [01:32] <@dolske> gregglind: take a look at how 781327 did things.
# [01:32] <gregglind> will do!
# [01:32] <dholbert> Waldo, what if I told you... https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/119095 somehow caused a rendering bug?
# [01:32] <@dolske> gregglind: it's pretty easy to do in the blind, I can test it out come review time.
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# [01:33] <Waldo> dholbert: fnord
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# [01:33] <Waldo> dholbert: really?
# [01:33] <dholbert> Waldo, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843343
# [01:33] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah
# [01:33] <gregglind> dolkse, cool, I htink I was cribbing most of the results of that bug from browser.css. In final stage, I just break out all the per-plaform stuff back in to /skins though?
# [01:33] <gregglind> I have the feedback button mostly done (as a jetpack! ooooo)
# [01:33] <@dolske> yeah, basically.
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# [01:33] <Waldo> dholbert: I suspect a code bug triggered by very slightly different compile options
# [01:34] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah, likely
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# [01:34] <gregglind> and for chrome-only stuff @-moz-document url-prefix("chrome://") {
# [01:34] <gregglind> ?
# [01:34] <gregglind> or should I go even deeper on that?
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# [01:35] <gregglind> okay, it's useful in jetpack when registering css sheets.
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# [01:42] <philor> a great big multiples-of-7200-seconds wide mark
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# [01:45] <mak> philor: they look quite related judging from tip results
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# [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d57a813c77a4 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 843248 - Upgrading with maintenance service from a non metro build to a metro build does not show tile. r=jimm
# [01:55] <mbrubeck> so, how are we on the backout..?
# [01:55] <mak> looks "clean" still a bit behind
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# [01:59] <mbrubeck> time to reopen?
# [01:59] * mbrubeck has an ulterior motive: patches waiting to land
# [01:59] <mak> I'd probably wait still a moment for Win boxes
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# [02:00] <mak> also, there's more satisfaction making orange a full green tree, isn't it?
# [02:00] <mbrubeck> ha
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# [02:15] <mak> mbrubeck: I think you can proceed, from what I see most of the stuff is in queue so would take still lot of time... and I'm going to sleep now
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# [02:15] <mbrubeck> thanks, mak
# [02:16] <mak> Try is slowing down everything, 1380 pending, srsly :/
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# [02:17] <KWierso|Home> maybe we should all just get wednesdays off, let the try queue clear up for the second half of the week :)
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# [02:18] <mbrubeck> inbound is open
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# [02:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9a0e69eb896 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 840270 (followup) - fix some invalid CSS syntax in Metro select popup code [r=jimm]
# [02:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3cbaeb1f128 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 837772 - Fix argument parsing from tests.ini for Metro test harness [r=jimm]
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# [02:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82747d694e7a - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 716859 - Streaming GLContext buffers (doublebuffering, etc) - r=bjacob,jrmuizel,vlad
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# [02:37] <@ehsan> cpearce: ping?
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# [02:38] <@ehsan> cpearce: what's the correct load event for an audio element created using new Audio()?
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# [02:38] <cpearce> ehsan: what do you mean "correct"?
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# [02:38] <cpearce> there are several events fired during load.
# [02:39] <@ehsan> cpearce: I have an audio element and I need to be able to tell when it's buffered
# [02:39] <@ehsan> and no matter what I try, nothing works :(
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# [02:40] <cpearce> ehsan: ah, that's dileberately made difficult. you can however listen on "progress" events, and check whether HTMLMediaElement.buffered contains [0,duration]
# [02:40] <cpearce> ehsan: as a "progress" event is fired after the media is fully downloaded.
# [02:41] <cpearce> ehsan: but this may never happen however, if there's pressure on the media cache some chunks may be evicted, and so your test can still fail
# [02:41] <@ehsan> hmm
# [02:41] <@ehsan> cpearce: so, should I just skip doing this?
# [02:41] <cpearce> ehsan: this is the reason it's made hard; it can never be reliable.
# [02:41] <@ehsan> I mena, what will happen if you call play() on something that is not fully loaded/
# [02:41] <@ehsan> ?
# [02:41] <jimm> cpearce: bug 842130 is for fullscreen in metrofx
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# [02:42] <@dolske> ehsan: is this for a test?
# [02:42] <jimm> we can hook up the old xul fs tab page pretty easily, it just regressed recently. though we also want to try and get the dom fullscreen apis working.
# [02:43] <@ehsan> dolske: no, for a game
# [02:43] <cpearce> ehsan: whenever segments are that are unbuffered need to be played, playback will pause while those segments are downloaded.
# [02:43] <cpearce> ehsan: you can wait on "canplaythrough", but that's broken in chrome.
# [02:43] <@ehsan> ok, I guess that's the best we can do then
# [02:43] <@ehsan> nah, I give up
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# [02:44] <@dolske> aww. I really wanted to play Ehsan Quest 3. :(
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# [02:44] <@ehsan> haven't given up on the game yet ;)
# [02:44] <@dolske> yesssss
# [02:45] <philor> conveniently, there's a releng patch which will make branch prioritization actually work so that try doesn't slow everything down, which should mean that rather than the current "maybe you'll get your try results in an hour, or eight, or twenty four" you'll know for sure "you won't get your try results until Saturday"
# [02:46] <cpearce> jimm: I was meaning to comment in bug 842130, I think it's a different issue, lemme do that.
# [02:46] <jimm> philor: will there be another merge to mc tonight?
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# [02:50] <mbrubeck> One method of branch prioritization works fine... just cancel all the jobs on all the other branches.
# [02:50] <philor> my favorite
# [02:50] <philor> jimm: I certainly doubt it, for my values of "tonight" - I'll be at work until after 8pm, and Ed and Ryan are both in London this week
# [02:51] <jimm> ah, ok, thx for the info.
# [02:51] <mbrubeck> ah, that explains why philor's been working alone in the evenings
# [02:52] <cpearce> jimm: where's the code "(which doesn't appear to be working at the moment)" for the metro video controls' fullscreen that you're referring to in bug 842130?
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# [02:53] <jimm> hmm, you have to access that via the context menu. there's a big context menu patch on inbound right now. not sure if you could solve any issues on mc without that. let me find the code..
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# [02:53] <jgilbert> why do we emit .deps files for files during compilation?
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# [02:55] <jimm> cpearce: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/metro/base/content/contenthandlers/ContextMenuHandler.js#77
# [02:55] <jimm> that's invoked by the context menu
# [02:56] <jimm> cpearce: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/metro/base/content/video.js
# [02:57] <jimm> and
# [02:57] <jimm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/metro/base/content/pages/fullscreen-video.xhtml
# [02:57] <mbrubeck> cpearce: See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590715 for the original source of that code. It's super-hacky and weird.
# [02:57] <jimm> it's basically video in a tab.
# [02:57] <cpearce> jimm: Right, I just commented in bug 842130, the tl;dr is that I think you're using the old fennec video controls which don't use the DOM fullscreen API, they use the old "create new a XUL window that's sizemode=fullscreen, clone the video into it" solution we used to use before the fullscreen API was implemented.
# [02:57] <jimm> yep
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# [02:58] <cpearce> I reckon you should just re-use the b2g/android video touch controls.
# [02:58] <jimm> cpearce: that bug reproduces on *desktop* firefox
# [02:58] <jimm> just an fyi
# [02:59] <cpearce> hmmm
# [03:00] <cpearce> so it does...
# [03:00] <jimm> cpearce: thanks for the comments in 842130 though :) that helps.
# [03:01] <jimm> that might just be a bug in the web page. the author probably hasn't tested in fx with flash diabled.
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# [03:05] <cpearce> jimm: thanks for point out that it repro's on desktop! and it is a bug in the web page; they're not calling the DOM fullsceen API, I'll comment in the bug.
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# [03:12] <@ehsan> cpearce: still here?
# [03:12] <cpearce> ehsan: yup
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# [03:13] <@ehsan> cpearce: so once I call audio.play(), how can I know when the playback is done?
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# [03:13] <cpearce> ehsan: an "ended" event is dispatched to the media element
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# [03:28] <@ehsan> cpearce: I cannot explain the thing that I'm seeing :(
# [03:28] <@ehsan> here's roughly what I do:
# [03:28] <@ehsan> sound = new Audio();
# [03:28] <@ehsan> sound.src = "x/y.ogg";
# [03:28] <@ehsan> / later on:
# [03:28] <@ehsan> sound.play();
# [03:29] <@ehsan> this doesn't play back the sound
# [03:29] <@ehsan> but if I grab a ref to the sound object on the web console and call play on it there, I do hear audio
# [03:29] <@ehsan> cpearce: any idea on what I'm doing wrong?
# [03:29] <cpearce> ehsan: um... are you sure you're calling play()?
# [03:30] <@ehsan> yeah, I verified that under the debugger
# [03:30] <cpearce> do you receive a "playing" event?
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# [03:30] <@ehsan> let me check
# [03:31] <@ehsan> I do
# [03:31] <@ehsan> cpearce: ^
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# [03:31] <cpearce> hmmm....
# [03:31] <@ehsan> cpearce: but not the ended event
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# [03:32] <cpearce> ehsan: can you produce a minimized test case?
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# [03:32] <@ehsan> cpearce: not easily :(
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# [03:33] <@ehsan> cpearce: I can send you a zip package right now though
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# [03:33] <cpearce> ehsan: sure, worth a shot
# [03:33] <cpearce> I'm waiting on a build ;)
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# [03:58] <jedp> I've just discovered that I can't upload videos to vimeo from firefox, because the button to browse for uploads does not appear; but it appears in Google Chrome
# [03:58] <jedp> this is new (mis)behavior - i was uploading to vimeo from FF18 two weeks ago
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# [03:58] <jedp> I'll try to figure out how to report the issue to vimeo ...
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# [04:01] <jedp> lol. i can't report a bug from FF because none of the forum or help buttons work on FF.
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# [04:03] <@bz> This is ridiculous
# [04:03] <@bz> Getting 2TB of storage should just not be that hard
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# [04:14] <philor> "runtime error R6016 - not enough space for thread data"
# [04:15] <philor> hard to picture that turning out to be something good
# [04:15] <@bz> Couldb be worse: not enough thread for space data
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# [04:29] <benjamin> was stuff removed from the infrastructre menu?
# [04:30] <@dolske> I saw a tweet from a Vimeo guy about the Opera/webkit thing, sounded like they're not really fans of Firefox.
# [04:31] <@dolske> bz: 2TB of storage? on people or something?
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# [04:41] <@dbaron> dolske, you couldn't tell from the text that Vimeo shows a Firefox that doesn't have flash?
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# [04:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2be5143570bb - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 831630 - Part 2: [B2G STK]: Support duration for DISPLAY TEXT, SETUP CALL. r=allstars.chh
# [04:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bb3b21ec4e5 - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 831630 - Part 1 : Interface updated to decode 'duration' TLV tag for Display Text, Setup Call commands. r=allstars.chh sr=sicking
# [04:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/095b80fc67f7 - Siddartha Pothapragada - Bug 831630 - Part 3: [B2G STK]: Marionette test case. r=allstars.chh
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# [04:50] <ddahl> anyone else getting these ASSERTS in nightly: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-13-02-20-094953pm.php
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# [04:51] <ddahl> the browser locks up for a 5-10 seconds
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# [04:55] <Jesse> ddahl: yes, JonathanS was complaining about that assertion in #foxymonkies
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# [05:03] <@dbaron> ok, so Jim Chen's trick for remote-adb worked 10 minutes ago, but it no longer does
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# [05:07] <dougmencken> hi! is this the right channel to ask about building firefox? I got an error: media/webrtc/trunk/src/modules/../typedefs.h:52:2: error: #error Please add support for your architecture in typedefs.h
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# [05:07] <dougmencken> maybe I can temporarily disable WebRTC? in .mozconfig, for example...
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# [05:18] <mbrubeck> dougmencken: Yes, this is a good place to ask
# [05:18] <mbrubeck> and yes, you can try "ac_add_options --disable-webrtc" in your .mozconfig
# [05:18] <mbrubeck> In other news, we seem to have some new orange on inbound....
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# [05:19] <@dbaron> do we expose any spell-checking APIs to Web content?
# [05:19] <@dbaron> It doesn't look like we do.
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# [05:20] <@dbaron> depending on the API, they could be used to write games like boggle or scrabble :-)
# [05:20] <dougmencken> mbrubeck: thanks
# [05:21] <mbrubeck> dbaron: I seem to remember a lot of talk about it on one of our lists... the privacy concerns over exposing users' customized dictionaries, for example
# [05:21] <@dbaron> I wouldn't expose the custom dicts
# [05:22] <mbrubeck> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.platform/pd07YDf0Qgk/discussion
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# [05:22] <jlebar> Anyone know how to use the command line to get Firefox to open a page, on Mac?
# [05:23] <jlebar> Oh, open /Applications/Nightly.app http://foobar
# [05:24] <jesup> dolske: ping
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# [05:29] <mbrubeck> xpcshell at least seems busted
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# [05:30] <mbrubeck> by jgilbert?
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# [05:30] <philor> oh joy, the linux m5 wasn't what we already backed out
# [05:30] <@dbaron> jgilbert, mbrubeck was just pointing out xpcshell bustage
# [05:31] <@dbaron> philor, I feel like if I remove "linux" from that sentence you could be talking about cars
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# [05:32] <@dbaron> mbrubeck, still, jgilbert's changes seem totally unrelated to the error
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# [05:32] <jgilbert> hah
# [05:32] * philor looks for a picture of a car backed through the wall of a parking garage
# [05:34] <philor> yesterday, I backed out a jetpack push for breaking b2g, don't think I won't back out canvas for breaking search
# [05:35] <philor> but, we've only run xpcshell on those VMs since this morning, and xpcshell was busted most of the day
# [05:35] <mbrubeck> jgilbert's change does touch an xpcshell test, though not the one that's breaking.
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# [05:37] <mbrubeck> oh, nevermind, it's a mochitest
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# [05:39] <mbrubeck> Well, I think we can safely blame the test_prompt failures on https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d96b58d9d4b
# [05:40] <@dbaron> philor, http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/48262d1190234145-crash-ring-bmw-m5-touring-m5-touring-2.jpg , perhaps?
# [05:40] <mbrubeck> not impressed by the Try run that didn't actually run the test they were touching: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f298790364e7
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# [05:41] <dougmencken> done: http://code.google.com/p/webrtc/issues/detail?id=1418
# [05:41] <jgilbert> m5 wagons always surprise me
# [05:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e6834c859a8 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 1d96b58d9d4b (bug 806737) for test_prompt.html failures on a CLOSED TREE
# [05:45] <philor> um, err, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19933685&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error0
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# [05:45] <philor> that seems like a whole lot of not-us
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# [05:51] <philor> from inbound, that is
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# [05:53] <mbrubeck> I can't even figure out what the error is in this Ubuntu 64 xpcshell log
# [05:53] <mbrubeck> besides "a harness error"
# [05:53] <jesup> dougmencken: check open bugs Core/Webrtc - there might be a patch for that. Can't remember
# [05:53] <jesup> but thanks for filing an upstream issue!
# [05:54] <philor> heh
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# [05:55] <philor> "@-e:1"
# [05:55] <philor> ?
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# [05:57] <philor> conveniently, we switched to running xpcshell tests on Amazon VMs, and we switched to running tests under mozharness, so we're not short of different-things
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# [06:00] <mbrubeck> oh goody, it has the same test_init_async_multiple_then_sync.js orange
# [06:01] <philor> :)
# [06:01] <mbrubeck> I guess that clears jgilbert
# [06:01] <philor> but at least we run them faster, we just don't happen to run them entirely well
# [06:01] <jgilbert> at this point, I'm sure something will come up :p
# [06:02] <philor> there's a will
# [06:02] <philor> ruh roh, I don't recognize that leak on m-c
# [06:03] <philor> sort of wish we'd fixed tbpl's leak analysis before we rolled out mozharness everywhere
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# [06:05] <philor> oh, ffs, it's not a mis-mis-named ipcplugins leak anyway, it's an a11y leak, of which There Is Only One
# [06:06] <philor> unless the ipcplugins suite runs every a11y test?
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# [06:08] <Mossop> I don't believe you stopped
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# [06:10] <philor> not anymore
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# [06:12] <Mossop> And here was me wanting to land something. Ah well
# [06:12] <@dbaron> philor, was my reason insufficiently amusing?
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# [06:12] <@dbaron> I suppose I could have mentioned tangarines and mandarins as well
# [06:13] <philor> dbaron: I closed m-c
# [06:13] <@dbaron> oh
# [06:13] <@dbaron> right, m-c vs. m-i
# [06:13] <philor> because it's filled with unstarred failures
# [06:13] <philor> though I'm beginning to think it's mostly filled with insufficiently tested infra changes
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# [06:15] <philor> I can't make any sense of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19933859&full=1&branch=mozilla-central
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# [06:16] <philor> oh, maybe I can...
# [06:17] <njn> is it just me, or have we had tons of CLOBBER changes recently?
# [06:17] <philor> aki: ping
# [06:17] <philor> we have, yes
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# [06:18] <karl> do our test environments do anything to ensure that the mouse pointer is not over the browser window, causing highlighting on hover, etc?
# [06:18] * karl wants to write a test using sendNativeMouseEvent, which moves the pointer in at least one implementation
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# [06:19] <philor> somebody advise me: how serious is it that we've suddenly stopped running the plugin tests with OOP plugins?
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# [06:20] <karl> philor: are you saying we now run them with IP plugins, or we just don't run them
# [06:20] <philor> karl: I'm saying that we now run the *a11y* tests with OOP plugins :D
# [06:20] <karl> philor: last i looked, ipc-plugins tests ran IP, while regular mochitests ran OOP
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# [06:21] <philor> right, I typed it backward
# [06:22] <philor> we now run a11y tests with dom.ipc.plugins.enabled=false instead of running plugin tests
# [06:22] <karl> philor: if i understand you correctly, mochitest-ipcplugins has been replaced with a11y tests?
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# [06:23] <philor> yep, mozharness accidentally does --chrome --a11y --ipcplugins for that run, and a11y trumps --ipcplugins
# [06:23] <karl> ok, thanks
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# [06:23] <mbrubeck> philor: By the way, in case Android test failures are getting boring, I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843420
# [06:23] <karl> how bad?: not the badest because dom.ipc.plugins.enabled=false is not our default, but obvious not what is wanted
# [06:24] <philor> what I can't decide is the severity of the bug I'm filing, blocker because I'm closing trunk trees over it or not
# [06:24] <karl> the plugin tests are still running with the default values of dom.ipc.plugins.enabled, so i wouldn't say it is worth closing the tree
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# [06:26] <karl> that statement kind of begs the question why we are still running tests with dom.ipc.plugins.enabled=false
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# [06:27] <karl> but some users do like to change that setting; one particular screen reader was having trouble with OOP plugins
# [06:28] <philor> yeah, despite the fact that I dislike this conclusion more often than I like it, if that suite running something completely different than what it should run doesn't close the tree, then I'll be filing to save some time by not running it
# [06:28] <philor> so BLO it is
# [06:28] <karl> bsmedberg: you might want to chime in here
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# [06:29] <@dbaron> I see a mochitest-chrome and a mochitest-plugins line
# [06:29] <@dbaron> which look like they're running pretty close to the same number of tests
# [06:30] <@dbaron> so where are we running mochitest-a11y at all?
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# [06:30] <philor> on windows, win opt oth on the tip of m-c, I see precisely the same number of tests for a11y and plugins
# [06:31] <njn> 5:56.01 /home/njn/moz/mi7/gfx/gl/SurfaceStream.cpp:19:32: error: expected a class or namespace
# [06:31] <njn> 5:56.01 if (omtc == SurfaceStream::OMTC::OffMainThread) {
# [06:31] <njn> hmm
# [06:31] <njn> that seems familiar
# [06:32] <philor> mac, where we don't run a11y, let's see what tests we do run for plugins...
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# [06:32] <philor> mac, we run --chrome --ipcplugins, which runs mochitest-chrome with in-process plugins
# [06:33] <@dbaron> oh, indeed, I was looking at mac
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# [06:39] <aki> so what are we doing on non-mh branches?
# [06:39] <philor> aki: not accidentally putting --chrome and -a11y in the commandline
# [06:40] <aki> they're all supposed to run
# [06:40] <aki> i guess maybe buildbot-based does it in three separate tests, maybe
# [06:40] <philor> not all at once
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# [06:41] <aki> heh, we never saw this on cedar
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# [06:43] <philor> yeah, never hit the a11y leak that I know as an a11y leak and know isn't an ipcplugins leak
# [06:43] <aki> are https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843464 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843467 dupes?
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# [06:43] <philor> whew, mine was first, I don't have to change the closed-tree message!
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# [06:44] <philor> hmm, is --chrome --a11y wrong, too?
# [06:45] <aki> yup, i'm going to split --chrome, --a11y, and --ipcplugins (or w/e) to three separate run_command()s
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# [06:46] <philor> looks like it's wrong, but that one doesn't matter because it runs the same tests the same way with or without --chrome
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# [06:47] <aki> looks like moth is the only suite that runs >1 test suite
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# [06:47] <aki> either chrome+plugins or chrome+a11y+plugins
# [06:47] <aki> let's see how hard this is to split up
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# [06:54] <aki> oh i see
# [06:54] <aki> it already is split up
# [06:54] <aki> but it's a pointer to an array that keeps getting appended to. this should be an easy fix
# [06:55] <aki> anyone around have a basic understanding of python for an r? or i can r=bustage
# [06:57] * philor is out as a potential reviewer, having also gotten to the right place with the right conclusion but without seeing why it happens
# [06:58] <aki> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843464#c3
# [06:58] <aki> i can land, merge, and we can retrigger within ~5 min
# [06:58] <aki> open to landing with r=bustage or rs= whoever or waiting for someone with python chops
# [06:59] <philor> Callek must be awake, he's always awake
# [06:59] <aki> he left ~8hrs ago
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# [07:00] <philor> r=bustage sounds good to me
# [07:00] <aki> ok
# [07:00] <aki> 3 char patch, we should hopefully see it fix things within a half hour or however long moth takes to run
# [07:01] <@bz> aki: wouldn't list(abs_base_cmd) be clearer?
# [07:01] * @bz knows python, but isn't sure what's more idiomatic here
# [07:01] * jesup hates tests that only fail on the test servers but not locally
# [07:01] * jld knows python reasonably well, but also isn't sure what the preferred idiom for shallow-copying a list is
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# [07:02] <jesup> just did 400 runs of intermittent crash bug 841981, no failures
# [07:02] <jesup> :-(
# [07:02] <jld> Also, I'm kind of new here and don't really know anything else involved in that bug besides Python.
# [07:02] <@bz> aki: you can quote r=me if you need, for whatever that's worth in that area of the code....
# [07:03] <aki> bz: i suppose, we're using [:] elsewhere for copying lists
# [07:03] <Jesse> i think [:] is a python idiom for "copying a list". list(...) could be several things.
# [07:03] <aki> i already landed with r=bustage
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# [07:03] <aki> landed; we can respin
# [07:03] <aki> want me to, or is someone else on it?
# [07:03] <@bz> Jesse: interesting
# [07:03] <philor> aki: I'll do a few
# [07:05] <philor> wow, that confused me, inbound has an instance of the same leak that made me notice, but during the -a11y run of -a11y instead of during the -plugins run of -a11y
# [07:07] <Jesse> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3201033 <-- people arguing about a[:] vs list(a)
# [07:07] <aki> hah
# [07:07] * philor decides on more than a few
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# [07:08] <aki> i always wondered why python didn't have a.copy() for list as well as dict
# [07:08] <aki> seems more pythonic
# [07:08] <philor> oh, wait, you didn't reconfig yet, it'll be another hour before I can retrigger! ;)
# [07:08] <aki> no reconfigs needed for mozharness
# [07:08] <aki> logic, that is. scheduling is another matter
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# [07:15] <philor> hmm, armv6 fennec reftests got busted by a dom/system/gonk/ push?
# [07:15] <philor> how many hours has it been since I clobbered inbound?
# [07:16] <jesup> % hg pull -u -> abort: error: Name or service not known
# [07:16] <philor> wasn't me, but 12:02
# [07:16] <jesup> that's not good...
# [07:16] <jesup> working now
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# [07:18] <philor> jesup: dont' suppose you would like to tell me https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19933639&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is some existing crash bug, so I can avoid putting all that in a bug summary?
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# [07:19] <jesup> looking
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# [07:19] <jesup> bug 841981
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# [07:20] <philor> oh, sweet, it's already piled on, just not in the summary, thanks
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# [07:21] <jesup> ANd I've run it literally several thousand times locally with no crash. Trying now with a make -j8 for load. No joy
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# [07:23] <aki> 22:21:12 INFO - Copy/paste: /home/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/venv/bin/python -u /home/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/tests/mochitest/runtests.py --appname=/home/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/application/firefox/firefox --utility-path=tests/bin --extra-profile-file=tests/bin/plugins --symbols-path=http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-linux/1361408096
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# [07:24] <aki> i think it's fixed
# [07:24] <philor> yeah, the number of tests on inbound Mac are right
# [07:25] <philor> and linux with all three, yay, thanks!
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# [07:28] <philor> good enough to open on, nobody would be able to claim to miss armv6 reftests or to be shocked by them timing out, at least not with a straight face
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# [10:35] <NeilAway> whoa, 50 busted rebases
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# [10:38] <edmorley> ewong: in a meeting at the moment, was it something quick? :-)
# [10:38] <Ms2ger> Just use rebase, they said
# [10:38] <Ms2ger> It won't break anything, they said
# [10:38] <ewong> edmorley: oh.. nvm.. probably not a quick question (re: bug 841316.. )
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# [11:04] <RyanVM> sooo....we added a bunch more tests to run on b2g18 and apparently nobody actually checked to make sure they were passing afterwards?
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# [11:05] <Ms2ger> Sounds possible, why?
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# [11:07] <Callek> RyanVM: that almost sounds normal :-)
# [11:08] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: Just looking at 3 perma-orange suites this morning...
# [11:08] <RyanVM> i.e. The usual ;)
# [11:09] <Ms2ger> Were they all running m-a11y?
# [11:09] <RyanVM> M1, M8, Mn all appear to be perma-orange
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# [11:12] <Ms2ger> Btw, what's the status on turning off Fedora32 mochitests?
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# [11:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a05602259e98 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 836039 - Reduce cache size per SQLite connection to 2MB
# [11:13] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: not off yet :P
# [11:13] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, boo! ;)
# [11:13] <RyanVM> jmaher's been making progress, but that's all I've heard
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# [11:19] <glazou> bonjour
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# [11:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8dd15944b33 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 833697 - Transaction-based MmsService. r=vyang
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# [11:43] <annevk> bz_sleep and other IDL people: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21068
# [11:43] <annevk> I'm not entirely sure whether that's a real problem or not
# [11:43] <annevk> smaug: ^^
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# [11:49] <annevk> wake up peopel
# [11:49] <annevk> oops
# [11:49] <glazou> you probably have heard of time shift ? that's the night there
# [11:49] <glazou> :)
# [11:50] <KWierso|Home> oh. right. :|
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# [11:50] <Ms2ger> KWierso|Home, still around?
# [11:50] <KWierso|Home> physically?
# [11:51] <@smaug> annevk: I think it is a real-ish problem :)
# [11:51] <@smaug> annevk: did you read the mozilla bug
# [11:51] <annevk> ooh
# [11:51] <annevk> missed that
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# [11:53] <annevk> ok will fix now
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# [11:55] <Callek> gavin: well it is technically morning, 6am around where me and bz live
# [11:55] <@smaug> oh, I haven't got used to get comments from annevk here. I thought I was answering to #whatwg
# [11:55] <Callek> smaug: :-)
# [11:55] <annevk> smaug: well you know, we gotta work on our monoculture so better to discuss it here than in some kind of standards body :p
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# [12:02] <jwatt> man, having to do clobber builds an awful lot these days
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# [12:08] <Ms2ger> jwatt, the trick is to just copy the CLOBBER file to your objdir as suggested in the error message
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# [12:11] <jwatt> ms2ger: well I was assuming there was a good reason for the clobber :p
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# [12:12] <Ms2ger> I need to review some stuff
# [12:12] <KWierso|Home> ~~SOON~~EVENTUALLY
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# [12:33] <annevk> is there a moz dictionary?
# [12:33] * annevk wonders what clobber means
# [12:33] <Ms2ger> Remove your objdir
# [12:34] <annevk> gonna need that dictionary :)
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> You get to write it ;)
# [12:35] <@smaug> annevk: we have a dictionary bot, and coding style nit bot. It is called Ms2ger :)
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> Oh, and
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> firebot, clobber?
# [12:35] <firebot> Ms2ger: everyone knows that! clobber is to delete all output files and rebuild from source. Instructions for making a Tinderbox clobber are at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:ClobberingATinderbox
# [12:35] <annevk> firebot, objdir?
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> We've got at least two dictionary bots :)
# [12:35] <firebot> annevk: Sorry, I've no idea what 'objdir' might be.
# [12:36] <annevk> firebot: so true
# [12:36] <firebot> annevk: Sorry, I've no idea what 'true' might be.
# [12:36] <annevk> meta
# [12:36] <Ms2ger> firebot, objdir is the directory containing the output files of a build, typically called obj-*
# [12:36] <firebot> Ms2ger: ok
# [12:36] <Ms2ger> firebot, true is λa.λb. a
# [12:36] <firebot> Ms2ger: ok
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# [12:51] <past> annevk: you may find this helpful: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary
# [12:51] <annevk> cheers, will go through that
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# [12:53] <annevk> past: seems slightly out of date, pretty sure the parser no longer uses DTDs
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# [12:54] <Ms2ger> annevk, I'm pretty sure the XML parser does
# [12:54] <annevk> oh
# [12:54] <annevk> silly
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# [12:54] <Ms2ger> But you are correct
# [12:54] <Ms2ger> "NGLayout implements HTML 4.01"
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# [13:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfae56756c7f - Chuck Lee - Bug 828782 - 0004. Add test case for UTF-8 decoding on ctypes.readStringReplaceMalformed(). r=terrence
# [13:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61283abfaf9b - Chuck Lee - Bug 828782 - 0002. Add new readString function for ctypes to use new inflate function. r=terrence
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# [13:05] <Optimizer1> Can't I hide scrollbars on a <select> element with multiple=true ?
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# [13:20] <NeilAway> dougt: MOZ_PURGE_CACHES=1 perhaps? or -purgecaches command line
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# [13:29] <@smaug> Optimizer1: why would that hide scrollbars
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# [13:29] <Optimizer1> smaug: that would not hide, I want to hide
# [13:30] <Optimizer1> the size is 10 and there are only 3 items, still a disabled scrollbar appears
# [13:30] <@smaug> try overflow: hidden;
# [13:30] <@smaug> tough, hmm, on which elemenet
# [13:30] <@smaug> element
# [13:30] <Optimizer1> no luck
# [13:31] <Optimizer1> <select>
# [13:31] <@smaug> yeah, you need to change the style of the native anonymous element
# [13:32] <Optimizer1> why don't they behave like the popup when multiple = false
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# [14:11] <firebot> computer1 was last seen 5 days, 4 hours, 18 minutes and 37 seconds ago, saying 'can someone help me out with fdo#633093' in #maildev.
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# [14:16] <Ms2ger> ttaubert, yes, it's in my queue :)
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# [14:39] <@ted> is there anyone here that has the hg color extension enabled on windows?
# [14:40] <@ted> it seems to mostly work with hg 2.5.1, but "hg qser" produces color codes that my terminal is not happy with
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# [14:42] <jimm> ted: mbrubeck has that working
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# [14:44] <annevk> Ms2ger: so that bug about createDocument(), did we not do enough testing for DOM?
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# [14:44] <annevk> Ms2ger: or is the binding in Gecko wrong?
# [14:44] <Ms2ger> Oh, our tests are failing
# [14:44] <Ms2ger> I wanted to avoid changing behaviour in the WebIDL bindings bug
# [14:45] <Ms2ger> But didn't think of undefined
# [14:45] <@ted> jimm: thanks, will consult with him when he's on
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# [14:48] <annevk> Ms2ger: okay, so the spec is good?
# [14:48] <Ms2ger> annevk, AFAIK, yes
# [14:48] <annevk> cool
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# [14:51] <@bz> ms2ger: which bug is this?
# [14:51] <Ms2ger> annevk?
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# [14:52] <annevk> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802560
# [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/985efc588a5e - Mark Finkle - Bug 843361 - Dump list of open files if we fail to unlock the DB r=blassey
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# [14:54] <@bz> So
# [14:54] <@bz> The comment 2 in that bug...
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# [14:54] <@bz> For _that_ case our behavior is in fact correct, no?
# [14:54] <@bz> Though maybe there should be a [TreatUndefinedAs=EmptyString] on there?
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# [14:55] <@bz> Oh, and it shouldn't be nullable, I see
# [14:56] <Ms2ger> bz, the issue is mainly the first else if in the implementation
# [14:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ded3af9b2d7 - Brian Hackett - Bug 743394 - Ion compile JSOP_EVAL, r=jandem.
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# [14:58] <@bsmedberg> gfritzsche: you need to set the approval-aurora and approval-beta flags on bug 842687
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# [14:58] <@bz> ms2ger: speaking of, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843075
# [14:58] <@bz> ms2ger: where webkit and opera do insane bits that don't match spec....
# [14:58] <@bz> ms2ger: and lovely browser-specific code on the page
# [14:58] <Ms2ger> I haven't investigated
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# [14:59] <@bz> ms2ger: oh, I investigated
# [14:59] <@bz> ms2ger: just not clear whether the spec should change or whether we should evangelize
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# [14:59] <@bz> ms2ger, annevk: also....
# [14:59] <@bz> ms2ger, annevk: Do you know why HTMLObjectElement has a legacycaller?
# [14:59] <Ms2ger> "Plugins"
# [14:59] <@bz> ms2ger, annevk: does anyone other than Gecko do that?
# [15:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: that's what I thought, but jst and bsmedberg tell me that they're surprised we do that
# [15:00] <@bz> ms2ger: and that they don't expect any plugins to depend on it
# [15:00] <Ms2ger> Interesting
# [15:00] <Ms2ger> Hixie?
# [15:00] <Ms2ger> I can look at blame in a bit
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# [15:00] <annevk> <- doesn't know
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# [15:00] <@bsmedberg> I would be tremendously surprised if any plugin relied on the plugin object itself being callable
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# [15:02] <@bz> bsmedberg: trying to decide whether to worry about this as I WebIDLify <object> or whether I should rip the functionality out, put the legacycaller patch on ice, and see if we can get away with never implementing it. ;)
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# [15:02] <@bsmedberg> bz: how fast does this need to happen? Can we add telemetry for it?
# [15:02] <@bz> mmm
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# [15:02] <annevk> If I do document.createElement("object")() in Chrome I get "Uncaught ReferenceError: NPObject deleted on line 2" in Live DOM Viewer
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# [15:03] <annevk> I can try IE
# [15:03] <@bz> I was hoping to get it done in the next week or two
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# [15:03] <Ms2ger> That sounds like they have special code, at least :/
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# [15:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: hmm
# [15:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: and they also report typeof == "object" at the same time? Lovely. :(
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# [15:04] <annevk> IE says "Function expected on line 128"
# [15:04] <@bz> In Opera I get "'document.createElement("object")' is not a function"
# [15:04] <@bz> Would be interesting to actually try with a plug-in which exposes a callable scriptable object.....
# [15:05] <@bz> So my temptation is to do the following:
# [15:05] <@ted> does our test plugin implement that?
# [15:05] <@bz> ted: no
# [15:05] <annevk> In WebKit if I change "object" to "x" I get "Uncaught TypeError: object is not a function on line 2"
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# [15:05] <annevk> In IE I get the same error
# [15:05] <@bz> ok
# [15:05] <Ms2ger> As I said, get someone from QA to write a plugin ;)
# [15:05] <@bz> nothing says IE doesn't change the [[Call]] dynamically, though
# [15:05] <@bz> we have a test plugin
# [15:05] <@bz> it just doesn't expect to be called directly
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# [15:05] <@ted> could probably hack that in and test it...
# [15:06] <annevk> oh but wait
# [15:06] <@bz> So as I was saying, temptation is to do the following:
# [15:06] <annevk> in Safari the error messages are consistent
# [15:06] <@bz> annevk: they might mutate the [[Call]] dynamically
# [15:06] <annevk> "TypeError: '[object HTMLObjectElement]' is not a function on line 1" and the same message for "x" "TypeError: '[object HTMLUnknownElement]' is not a function on line 1"
# [15:06] <@bz> 1) Create a bug for legacycaller, upload my patch
# [15:06] <@bz> 2) Nuke the legacycaller from <object> as I convert it to webidl
# [15:06] <@bz> 3) File a spec bug to remove the legacycaller here
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# [15:07] <@bz> 4) If we ever end up with a report of a problem, consider adding the legacycaller thing back in
# [15:08] <@bz> Thoughts?
# [15:08] <Ms2ger> I think neither of us minds removing stuff :)
# [15:08] <@bz> I think I'm mostly asking Benjamin here. ;)
# [15:09] <annevk> bsmedberg: ^^
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# [15:10] <@bsmedberg> bz: hrm, my main concern is that we won't discover issues until beta or release
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# [15:10] <annevk> Also, if you run plugins in a distinct process, how would that even work?
# [15:10] <@bsmedberg> because our nightly and aurora populations are highly atypical plugin users
# [15:10] <Ms2ger> s/plugin//
# [15:11] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: well... some other things are "more" normal
# [15:11] <@bsmedberg> distribution of OS versions is somewhat skewed toward higher-end machines, but not a lot
# [15:11] <@bsmedberg> s/OS versions/OS versions and computer specs/
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# [15:13] <@bz> bsmedberg: if we discover in beta we can deal
# [15:13] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg: i don't want to bypass jchen on 842687 as he took the bug
# [15:13] <@bz> bsmedberg: but ok, the other option is I keep the behavior for now and add telemetry to see if we can remove it
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# [15:13] <@bsmedberg> bz: yeah, I really don't know how conservative to be here
# [15:14] <@bz> I have legacycaller bits all coded up already
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# [15:14] <@bz> so I might as well, I guess....
# [15:14] <@bz> alright
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# [15:15] <@bz> Hey, documentation
# [15:15] <@bz> nice
# [15:15] <annevk> oh we're getting rid of the ns prefix in classes? nice
# [15:15] <@bz> annevk: as we convert to WebIDL, yes
# [15:16] <@bz> annevk: the bindings assume mozilla::dom::InterfaceName
# [15:16] <@bz> annevk: (you can tell them otherwise explicitly, but that's what they assume_
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# [15:20] <Ms2ger> ehsan, ... why not?
# [15:20] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: HTMLLinkElement doesn't even have those properties
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# [15:20] <@ehsan> and the spec doesn't use URLUtils
# [15:20] <@ehsan> so the burden of proof is on you :P
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# [15:20] <Ms2ger> Huh.
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# [15:21] <annevk> kinda weird that <link> is unlike <a> and <area> but is still matched by :link, but apparently so is the world
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# [15:22] <@ehsan> annevk: indeed!
# [15:22] <Ms2ger> Alright, r? me again
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# [15:22] <@bz> :link is just broken
# [15:22] <@bz> conceptually
# [15:22] <annevk> bz: true
# [15:22] <@bz> unrelated to what it does with <link>
# [15:23] <annevk> does :any-link still match <link>?
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# [15:23] <@bz> annevk: yes
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# [15:23] <@bz> annevk: at least in Gecko
# [15:23] <annevk> so it's identical but it also matches :visited, I guess that makes the most sense
# [15:23] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: done, thanks
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# [15:24] <@bz> annevk: -moz-any-link is exactly ":link, :visited"
# [15:24] <annevk> guess I'll file a bug on HTML to define :any-link
# [15:24] <annevk> bz: we should maybe remove the prefix http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#the-any-link-pseudo
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# [15:24] <@bz> annevk: I'm all for that
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# [15:25] <@bz> bsmedberg: so telemetry for the point when we actually do a call on the plugin obj?
# [15:25] <@bz> bsmedberg: i.e. at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.cpp#8736
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# [15:26] <@bsmedberg> bz: hrm, I guess I only really care if the invokeDefault call actually succeeds
# [15:26] <yzen> Yoric: ping
# [15:26] <@bz> bsmedberg: I'm not sure where to instrument that....
# [15:27] <@bz> bsmedberg: I guess I could do it here, in the case when true is returned
# [15:27] <@bsmedberg> bz: only add the telemetry ping if (*_retval) ?
# [15:27] <@bz> yeah
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# [15:27] <Ms2ger> "Initial checkin of XPIDL versions of the DOM interfaces. These files are automatically converted from the IDLC files. Not part of the build yet."
# [15:28] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
# [15:28] <@bz> hmm
# [15:28] <@bz> so I don't really want a histogram here
# [15:28] <@bz> right?
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> What do we do for multipart xhr?
# [15:29] * @bz writes some code, hopes it makes sense
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# [15:29] <@bz> ms2ger: we report each part separately
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# [15:30] <@bz> Ah, I want the "flag" type
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# [15:33] <yzen> Yoric: I was looking into the create hard link implementation for windows yesterday, and I was trying to figure out if there's a way represent NULL ctype since that's one of the reserved args for that function in windows, perhaps you would be able to point me in the right direction? is it represented as a pointer type?
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# [15:33] <Ms2ger> http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6914&to=6915
# [15:33] <@ted> you want to support creating hardlinks via OS.File?
# [15:33] <Yoric> yzen: |null| is translated to |NULL|.
# [15:33] <@ted> we had nothing but problems trying to use windows symlinks/hardlinks in build system code
# [15:33] <@bz> bsmedberg: just a flag value that will record once per session is enough here, right?
# [15:33] <Yoric> You need the function to be declared as accepting a pointer, of course.
# [15:34] <@bz> bsmedberg: since we want to see whether it's used at all?
# [15:34] <@bsmedberg> bz: yes
# [15:34] <Yoric> ted: yzen is looking at bug 833286.
# [15:34] <Yoric> ted: Do you think it will be a problem with Windows?
# [15:35] <Yoric> Note: even if it only works with MacOS X, that's still a win.
# [15:35] <Yoric> (especially if the recipe can be reused for Android)
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# [15:35] <@ted> Yoric: we found that support for symlinks/hardlinks was very buggy
# [15:35] <Yoric> ted: What kind of bugs did you encounter?
# [15:35] <yzen> Yoric: it looks like most posix systems (including android) should support it
# [15:36] <@ted> i'm sure there's a way to do atomic file operations on windows that doesn't require hardlinks
# [15:36] <@ted> we do something with the updater
# [15:36] <@ted> Yoric: i can't remember offhand, but we had issues with getting the wrong file contents in some of our archives etc
# [15:36] <Yoric> yzen: Well, Android has a limited file system and doesn't share the code of session restore with Desktop, so I'm not sure it will work quite that easily. But we can certainly try once we have a Desktop version running.
# [15:37] <Yoric> ted: If you can recall the operation, could you add a comment in the bug?
# [15:37] <@ted> i don't offhand, i'd have to dig through bu gs
# [15:37] <@ted> but in any event, whatever we do in the updater should work
# [15:37] <Yoric> Ok, well, if you ever recall, don't hesitate to add a comment in the bug :)
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# [15:38] <@bz> bsmedberg: do you know how important nsHTMLPluginObjElementSH::NewResolve is?
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# [15:38] <@bz> bsmedberg: tests are green without it....
# [15:38] * @bz worries about untested edge cases. :(
# [15:38] <Yoric> yzen: Ok, then let's start with a Posix implementation and see if it works. Once we have this, we'll think about Windows.
# [15:38] <Yoric> (drawing inspiration from the updater)
# [15:38] <Yoric> yzen: Is that ok with you?
# [15:38] <@bsmedberg> bz: I don't actually know what NewResolve does
# [15:39] <@bz> bsmedberg: it's just called whenever a property name is looked up on the object that was never looked up before
# [15:39] <Yoric> ted: And I hope you don't mean "transacted operations", because from what I understand, they don't work either and they are deprecated.
# [15:39] <yzen> Yoric: will do. but just to clarify in case i might need it later on, in case of create hard link function for win, one of the args is always NULL i still declare it as a pointer?
# [15:39] <@bz> bsmedberg: What it does in this case is call GetPluginInstanceIfSafe
# [15:39] <Yoric> yzen: Yes.
# [15:39] <@bsmedberg> bz: hrm... it looks like we only have that for its side effect of calling "GetPluginInstanceIfSafe"
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# [15:39] <@bsmedberg> what you just said ;-)
# [15:39] <yzen> Yoric: ok thanks
# [15:39] <@bz> bsmedberg: indeed
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# [15:39] <Yoric> yzen: I think that there are examples in osfile_win_back.jsm already, e.g. |CreateFile|.
# [15:39] <yzen> Yoric: ill start with the one for unix then
# [15:39] <@bz> bsmedberg: which calls ScriptRequestPluginInstance
# [15:39] <Yoric> yzen: Thanks.
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# [15:40] <@bz> bsmedberg: hrm, which has interesting interactions with click-to-play
# [15:40] * @bz cries, adds a way to do this
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# [15:41] * @bsmedberg suspects that we will *not* keep the plugin-scripting code
# [15:41] <@bsmedberg> as part of click to play
# [15:41] <@bsmedberg> but we haven't made that decision yet
# [15:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45a1e69221ef - Dão Gottwald - Bug 842989 - Don't needlessly call FullZoom.onLocationChange for same-document location changes. r=mak
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# [15:42] <@bsmedberg> bz: the other thing this does is call SyncStartPluginInstance
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# [15:42] <@bsmedberg> which is probably necessary
# [15:44] <@bz> bsmedberg: well
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# [15:44] <@bz> bsmedberg: depends on whether we can ever reach that point without having started the PI
# [15:44] <@bz> bsmedberg: or does the "sync" mean we block on the IPC which may already be in progress?
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# [15:45] <decoder> anyone here somewhat familiar with antlr grammars?
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# [15:47] <NeilAway> dao is making full use of LOCATION_CHANGE_SAME_DOCUMENT ;-)
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# [15:47] <@bsmedberg> bz: well, this isn't IPC, but the normal instantiation path dispatches an event
# [15:47] <@bsmedberg> so if that event is pending but the content immediately scripts the plugin, we want to instead instantiate it "right now"
# [15:47] <@bsmedberg> I don't think Chrome does this, FWIW
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# [15:48] <@bz> JS::Value retval;
# [15:48] <@bz> bool otherRetval;
# [15:48] <@bz> nsresult rv =
# [15:48] <@bz> nsHTMLPluginObjElementSH::DoCall(nullptr, aCx, obj, aArguments.Length(),
# [15:48] <@bz> aArguments.Elements(),
# [15:48] <@bz> &retval, aThisVal, &otherRetval);
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# [15:51] <@bsmedberg> bool?
# [15:51] <Matt> we've been loading an HTML page from a chrome:// URL, then using XMLHttpRequest to load files from the same chrome package (also using chrome://) URLs
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# [15:51] <derf> Need moar return values.
# [15:51] <jesup> an array of them
# [15:51] <@bz> bsmedberg: the docall thing can return an error via either a failure nsresult or a false outparam
# [15:51] <@bz> bsmedberg: because xpconnect
# [15:51] <Matt> seems like FF19 broke our extension and returns "Access to restricted URI denied"
# [15:51] <Matt> NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI
# [15:51] <Matt> anyone know what changed?
# [15:52] <@bz> bsmedberg: plus of course the actual return value I want.... ;)
# [15:52] <@bz> matt: sounds like a same-origin check failure
# [15:52] <Matt> bz: I agree
# [15:52] <Matt> but why does the check fail?
# [15:52] <Matt> it worked in FF18
# [15:52] <@bz> matt: That depends on what your extension is doing
# [15:52] <Matt> and the origin is the same… they are both chrome://foo URLs
# [15:52] <@bz> matt: I think you have two main options
# [15:53] <@bz> matt: 1) Tell someone here how to reproduce so they can tell you why the check fails.
# [15:53] <@bz> matt: 2) bisect on nightlies to figure out when the behavior changed, then look at the checkins in that range
# [15:53] <@bz> matt: or both, of course
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# [15:53] <@bz> matt: http://harthur.github.com/mozregression/ can help with #2
# [15:53] <Matt> 1) sounds a lot more appealing
# [15:54] <Matt> let me see if I can work up a simple reproducible test case
# [15:54] <@bz> sounds good
# [15:54] <Matt> also I was checking whether event.target.defaultView.wrappedJSObject === window in my DOMWindowCreated event handler (after adding the event listener to window.document)
# [15:55] <Matt> this returned true in FF18 and false in FF19
# [15:55] <Matt> seems like every version has another wrapper layer :-)
# [15:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d5e10ca36a4 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 843518: IonMonkey: Run alias analysis when UCE removes dependency of an instruction, r=nmatsakis
# [15:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fb2083111af - Hannes Verschore - Bug 843038: IonMonkey: Correct the definition of when an instruction is part of the loop, r=jandem
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# [15:59] <@bz> Matt: what do you get if you do a .wrappedJSObject on the RHS too?
# [15:59] * Matt checks
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# [16:00] <@bz> Matt: because in your example above I would expect both "window" and "event.target.defaultView" to be xrays
# [16:00] <@bz> Matt: no?
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# [16:01] <Matt> one of the windows is iframe.contentWindow
# [16:01] <Matt> iframe is a XUL iframe
# [16:01] <Matt> seems like in FF18 it wasn't an XRay
# [16:01] <Matt> since it matched the wrappedJSObject of event.target.defaultView.wrappedJSObject
# [16:02] <@bz> Odd
# [16:02] <@bz> Should have been an Xray
# [16:02] <Matt> looks like you're right
# [16:02] <Matt> in FF19 it's an Xray
# [16:02] <Matt> window.wrappedJSObject matches event.target.defaultView.wrappedJSObject
# [16:02] <@bz> ok
# [16:03] <Matt> that was easy
# [16:03] <Matt> the XHR is a much bigger pain
# [16:03] <Matt> trying to reproduce now
# [16:03] * @bz suggests that any time you're doing wrappedJSObject you have a bug
# [16:03] <Matt> must have been a Firefox bug :-P
# [16:03] * Matt only uses it when he has to
# [16:04] <Matt> and then you guys fix the bug and my code breaks
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# [16:05] * @bz is not aware of any obvious changes to this stuff from 18 to 19
# [16:06] <evilpie> because nothing with this stuff is obvious
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# [16:07] <@bz> no
# [16:08] <@bz> not because of that
# [16:08] <@bz> Just because this should all have worked before
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# [16:08] <@bz> Obviously there's information I'm missing about the actual testcase.
# [16:08] <@bz> But my mind-reading is being weak today.
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# [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea6e1521fe81 - Hannes Verschore - No bug: IonMonkey: Improve debugging spew, r=evilpie
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# [16:15] <mbrubeck> ted: I have it working with http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2162466
# [16:15] <mbrubeck> the relevant parts are under [extensions] [pager] and [color]
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# [16:15] <mbrubeck> turns out that color.mode=ansi works as long as you use "less" as your pager 100% of the time
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# [16:24] <Matt> bz: something definitely changed but it seems like it changed for the better
# [16:24] <Matt> working on the XHR thing now
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# [16:25] <Matt> someone should make web app where you just paste in a JS file and it spits out an XPI that runs the JS in chrome when you install it
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# [16:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3994cedc448c - Eric Chou - Bug 842434 - Ensure the flows of handling "socket disconnection" are the same, r=qdot
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# [16:33] <@bz> bsmedberg: ping again
# [16:33] <@bsmedberg> pong
# [16:33] <@bz> bsmedberg: so for object/embed gets on the object can get forwarded to the plug-in, right?
# [16:34] <@bsmedberg> yes
# [16:34] <@bsmedberg> object.someMethod is the common pattern
# [16:34] <@bz> ok
# [16:34] <@bsmedberg> but there's also object.someProperty
# [16:34] <@bz> This spec needs serious work
# [16:35] <@bz> hrm
# [16:35] <@bz> but wait
# [16:35] <@bz> this is on the proto chain
# [16:35] <@bz> why the heck do we have this code?
# [16:36] <@bz> this stuff is done in a totally insane way right now
# [16:36] <Ms2ger> Welcome to domclassinfo :)
# [16:37] <avih> padenot: was there any progress with the missing symbols? can i rebase to latest?
# [16:38] <evilpie> Matt: have you tried using scratchpad in chrome context?
# [16:38] <padenot> avih: I can't repro :-(
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# [16:39] <avih> padenot: hmm... and by looking at the h file you didn't notice anything unusual that would make the link miss those symbols?
# [16:39] <padenot> you and I have the same file
# [16:39] <avih> oh
# [16:39] <Matt> evilpie: ah very cool
# [16:39] <Matt> didn't know about that
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# [16:40] <avih> padenot: well, i'll give it another go then, maybe it's got magically fixed. though if it doesn't, it's quite a PITA to get back, as it'll take me 2 clobber builds...
# [16:41] <evilpie> Matt: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Scratchpad#Using_Scratchpad_to_access_Firefox_internals
# [16:41] <evilpie> $10 please
# [16:41] <evilpie> hehe ;)
# [16:41] <avih> bz: re: bug 590422 (remove timer filter) and try: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=29e2ba575146 . how can i tell if we've hit those regressions which yo mentioned on comment 8?
# [16:41] <Matt> evilpie: actually wouldn't the Web Console do just as well?
# [16:41] <Matt> if a chrome:// page is loaded
# [16:42] <evilpie> Matt: probably? i assume you had a bit more code
# [16:42] <Matt> yeah… different use cases I guess
# [16:42] <Matt> ok, ok, I owe you $10 ;-)
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# [16:46] <jandem> anybody knows why running ./mach mochitest-a11y accessible/tests/mochitest/actions/ does not work?
# [16:46] <jandem> or the same command with a single file
# [16:46] <Matt> bz: ok I was wrong
# [16:47] <Matt> the XHR is running in a sandbox with the global object set to the contentWindow of a browser tab
# [16:47] <Matt> surprisingly, XMLHttpRequest used to load chrome:// and resource:// URLs inside the sandbox
# [16:47] <Matt> but now it doesn't
# [16:47] <Matt> I'll see if I can inject my own privileged XHR implementation into the sandbox
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# [17:00] <@bsmedberg> god, using the symbol server from the Mozilla office network is so much faster!
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# [17:01] <jviereck> how do I checkout the current aurora/beta branch and check if a patch works there for later beta/aurora approval request?
# [17:01] <Matt> bz: seems like injecting my own XHR implementation into the sandbox works
# [17:01] <Matt> so basically two Firefox bugs fixed in FF19… all is well
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# [17:05] <dholbert> Ms2ger, possibly. haven't used rangeptr before
# [17:05] <@bz> jviereck: you just pull
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# [17:06] <@bz> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/ or https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta
# [17:06] <@bz> jviereck: ^
# [17:06] <dholbert> jviereck, alternately, you can grab a bundle from here, and hg unbundle it into a new tree: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial#Bundles
# [17:07] <jviereck> bz: dholbert: thanks a lot!
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# [17:07] <dholbert> bz, did you mean pull, or clone
# [17:07] <dholbert> ?
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# [17:08] <dholbert> (you can pull into an existing m-c tree, but I think you end up w/ multiple heads?)
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# [17:11] <vlad> this is weird, I started getting some serious slowdowns/hangs at http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=9c4bb59c5f4aa4c26c10ed61d5f83e6072cccd70 -- lots of nsPresContext::UIResolutionChangedInternal calls over and over
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# [17:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/fe0904c73e1c - Olli Pettay - Bug 840263 - Make sure to notify the right navigation timing about page load. r=hsivonen, a=lsblakk
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# [17:18] <Pike> gerv: I'd flag needinfo on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843592#c3 (re open font license in gaia), but I'm not sure if setting those on licensing@m-o.bugs is useful or I'd flag you directly?
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# [17:26] <@bz> paul: ping
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# [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a7e8e9791be - Aishwarya - Bug 794620 - group position of HTML radio buttons can be incorrect, r=surkov
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# [17:28] <paul> bz: pong
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# [17:31] <@bz> paul: where does the iframe for this stuff live?
# [17:31] <@bz> paul: the one you're calling swapFrameLoaders on
# [17:32] <paul> bz: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/framework/toolbox-window.xul#32
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# [17:33] <tn> why do we need swapFrameLoaders for iframe panels anyway?
# [17:33] <paul> which is moved into the iframe that is created here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/framework/Toolbox.jsm#463
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# [17:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/601c2d37c2bc - Irving Reid - Bug 842149: count idle observers to handle the case where observers de-register themselves while idle r=jlebar
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# [17:36] <@bz> paul: thanks
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# [17:36] <@bz> tn: tearing off into a separate window
# [17:36] <tn> why can't we just put the right iframe in the panel to begin with?
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# [17:37] <tn> or does it start out as a regular thing and then the user can tear it off into a panel?
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# [17:38] <paul> tn: while open in a window, we let the user "dock" the iframe inside a firefox window.
# [17:38] <@bz> tn: it can be torn off from the browser window into a separate window
# [17:38] <@bz> tn: or docked back into the browser window
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# [17:39] <tn> thats probably going to trigger this assertion http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/generic/nsSubDocumentFrame.cpp#1011
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# [17:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ed862817d8d - Wes Johnston - Bug 842830 - Don't show splash screens if Gecko is already running. r=mfinkle
# [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e91be95894d1 - Wes Johnston - Bug 839771 - Use a compound drawable to add padding to select elements. r=sriram
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# [17:42] <@bz> tn: it's not a popup
# [17:42] <@bz> tn: it's actually just a separate window
# [17:42] <@bz> tn: it's not a <xul:panel>
# [17:42] <@bz> tn: iirc
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# [17:43] <paul> indeed
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# [17:43] <paul> not a xul:panel.
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# [17:43] <glazou> hey paul
# [17:43] <paul> glazou: salut :)
# [17:43] <tn> oh, ok then
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# [17:53] <Matt> so it is desired behavior that properties added to e.g. a window from chrome should not be visible in content?
# [17:53] <Matt> presumably the chrome code adds the expand to the wrapper
# [17:53] <Matt> and the content sees the wrapped object?
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# [17:55] <Jesse> i think it's the other way around, chrome has a wrapper and content has the "real" object.
# [17:56] <Matt> yeah that's what I said
# [17:56] <sawrubh> mak|afk: ping
# [17:56] <Matt> the wrapped object is the real object
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# [17:56] <Matt> since bz told me I shouldn't use wrappedJSObject
# [17:56] <@bsmedberg> via .wrappedJSObject
# [17:56] <@bsmedberg> oh?
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> Hmm, anyone else see
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# [17:57] <Ms2ger> make[6]: Circular ../dist/bin/modules/commonjs/toolkit/.mkdir.done <- ../dist/bin/modules/commonjs/toolkit/.mkdir.done dependency dropped.
# [17:57] <Ms2ger> ?
# [17:57] <Jesse> chrome usually gets a kind of wrapper that exposes the DOM implementation, but not whatever the web page did to the object
# [17:57] <Matt> bsmedberg: I don't have enough scroll back configured to find it
# [17:57] <Matt> but he basically said using wrappedJSObject is probably an error
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# [17:57] <Matt> but I guess this is an exception
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# [17:57] <Jesse> Matt: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer ?
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# [17:58] <Matt> Jesse: I went that route a looooong time ago
# [17:58] <Ms2ger> Jesse, eww
# [17:58] <Matt> but just jamming the object into the wrapped object is much easier
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# [17:58] <Matt> FF19 is giving me fits though
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# [17:59] <Matt> even when I add my object as an expando to the real window object, the script running in content can't see the properties of my object
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# [17:59] <Matt> it worked in FF18 thougj
# [17:59] <Matt> *though
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# [18:05] <NeilAway> Matt: https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPConnect_Chrome_Object_Wrappers perhaps?
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# [18:06] <Matt> __exposedProps__
# [18:06] <Matt> that looks promising
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# [18:10] <jaws> mccr8: ping?
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# [18:11] <mccr8> jaws: pong
# [18:11] <jaws> mccr8: should this be marked as a memshrink fix? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843432
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# [18:12] <mccr8> jaws: I don't understand what that does exactly. :) anyways, we don't really track memshrink things after they are fixed, except in njn's blog, so you could email him about it along with the possible memory impact if you'd like.
# [18:13] <jaws> mccr8: ok cool, thanks
# [18:13] <jcranmer> sigh
# [18:13] <mccr8> np, thanks for fixing that. :)
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# [18:13] <jcranmer> wikimo seems to have an issue with accidentally converting the whole page to HTML
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# [18:17] <Matt> next problem: if I have a panel inside my browser.xul overlay with an iframe in it, and I load a new URI into that iframe, DOMWindowCreated is not fired
# [18:17] * Matt will have to make another test case
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# [18:19] <bent> sewardj, ping
# [18:19] <sewardj> bent: morning
# [18:19] <bent> sewardj, howdy
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# [18:19] <bent> sewardj, can you help me figure out what this means? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2164503
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# [18:20] <bent> sewardj, specifically, "Address 0x998a288 is 0 bytes after a block of size 88 alloc'd"
# [18:20] <bent> does that mean that it is actually a valid address?
# [18:21] <sewardj> bent: well, assuming V isn't on some false trail here ..
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# [18:22] <sewardj> bent: no .. it means that the given address is just off the end of a block
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# [18:22] <sewardj> the stated block
# [18:22] <sewardj> bent: let me see if I can make sense of this (one mo)
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# [18:22] <bent> ok
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# [18:23] <jedp> sanity check: does vimeo work for anyone on firefox 19? I get no movie player controls, no upload button, no active "start a new help topic" button, etc. But it works with Google Chrome.
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# [18:24] <mbrubeck> jedp: just browsing to http://vimeo.com/ in Fx19 on Windows 8, I see no problems... the video on the front page is working and so are its controls.
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# [18:25] <sewardj> bent: V believes that pointer (serv_addr.sun_path) should point to a zero terminated (C style) string
# [18:25] <jedp> mbrubeck thanks, i hope it's just me :) fwiw, i'm ff 19 on mac osx
# [18:25] <mbrubeck> and when I login the upload button seems to work
# [18:25] <sewardj> bent: but in following the string along to its end, it has fallen off the end of the stated block
# [18:25] <jedp> mbrubeck that's good news
# [18:25] <sewardj> bent: does that make any sense given the context you're looking at>
# [18:26] <sewardj> ?
# [18:26] <bent> sewardj, ah ok, that makes sense... sorta...
# [18:26] <bent> sewardj, a length is passed to the function
# [18:26] <jwatt> anyone here managed to get lldb to add a watchpoint?
# [18:26] <bent> sewardj, so it probably doesn't actually walk too far
# [18:26] <sewardj> bent: well, V is doing an ASCIIZ walk
# [18:26] <bent> sewardj, why does valgrind try to walk the string?
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# [18:26] <bent> is that just what it does for all char*?
# [18:27] <sewardj> bent: so as to check each byte is accessibled and defined
# [18:27] <bent> er, char[]
# [18:27] <bent> no wait, this is char*
# [18:27] <sewardj> bent: yeah, for asciiz strings passed to the kernel, we have to visit all byyes
# [18:27] <bent> ok, so in this case if it's prbably ok i should annotate somehow?
# [18:28] <sewardj> bent: I'm not saying V is necessarily correct here, but it's worth checking whether that string (1) is supposed to be zero-terminated, and if so (2) does it fit inside the relevant buffer
# [18:28] <sewardj> bent: first convince yourself that this isn't a bug in Fx
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# [18:28] <bent> sewardj, yeah
# [18:29] <sewardj> bent: V _might_ be wrong, but if so it's likely we would have heard about it by now
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# [18:29] <bent> sewardj, sounds probable, yeah
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# [18:29] <@ted> http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/MozillaBuildSetup1.7pre.exe
# [18:30] <@ted> if anyone wants a newer hg in their mozillabuild and is too lazy to install it manually
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# [18:30] <bent> ted, how do you install manually? khuey told me it was kinda hard
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# [18:32] <mbrubeck> bent: I just used the installer from mercurial.selenic.com and then added its directory to my $PATH in ~/.profile
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# [18:33] <bent> and that works? you don't have to worry about any kind of msys version? i thought we had to be careful about paths and such
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# [18:35] <mbrubeck> I haven't had any problems.
# [18:35] <@ted> bent: not with hg, no
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# [18:36] <bent> oh ok
# [18:36] <@ted> all the mozillabuild installer does is run the msi and put that directory in $PATH
# [18:36] <@ted> you can just rm mozilla-build/hg and install the new version there
# [18:36] <@ted> and it will work fine
# [18:36] <mbrubeck> It did stop recognizing my $EDITOR variable for some reason recently, so now "hg qref -e" opens notepad. :( But I'm not sure that's related.
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# [18:40] <@bz> tn: ping
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# [18:42] <jimm> ted: have you noticed all the copyrighted ms dlls in the resulting install folder?
# [18:42] <jimm> (for hg)
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# [18:42] <jimm> wonder if they copied those over or embedded them in the install
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# [18:43] <@ted> no?
# [18:43] <@ted> i only see python27.dll
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# [18:44] <jimm> I've got stuff like API-MS-Win-Core-DelayLoad-L1-1-0.dll
# [18:44] <@ted> huh
# [18:44] <jimm> 18 system dlls
# [18:44] <jimm> kinda weird
# [18:46] * @bz is tired of people filing random crap as core-security
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# [18:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e677416996aa - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 842897 - Initalize distribution in testDistribution() instead of setUp(). r=gbrown
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# [18:50] <tn> bz, pong
# [18:51] <NeilAway> bz: out of interest, what's the perf hit of having a separate refresh driver for each chrome frame?
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# [18:52] <@bz> tn: see my comments in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832920
# [18:52] <@bz> NeilAway: well, they paint out of sync
# [18:52] <@bz> NeilAway: so it's not just a perf hit, it's a bit of a behavior hit too
# [18:52] <@bz> NeilAway: past that, talk to tn and roc? ;)
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# [18:54] <@bz> Gah
# [18:54] <@bz> do we not have beta builds up on ftp?
# [18:54] <@khuey> sure looks like we do to me
# [18:54] <Standard8> we should do...
# [18:54] <@khuey> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/19.0b6/
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# [18:55] <Standard8> use https its mirrored ;-)
# [18:55] <dholbert> dbaron, do you know why nsMargin's constructor takes (left, top, right, bottom) instead of (top, right, left bottom)?
# [18:55] <@dbaron> dholbert, not sure; perhaps it predates the convention of using that order?
# [18:55] <Ms2ger> To match (x,y,w,h)?
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# [18:56] <nemo> *sigh* when is webkit/MSHTML going to fix viewport units :(
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# [18:56] <nemo> now that firefox has the only working copy on the block
# [18:56] <@bz> nemo: tee-hee
# [18:56] <dholbert> dbaron, ok, that was my suspicion
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# [18:56] <nemo> I'm really getting antsy to use it properly :(
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# [18:56] * dholbert will dig a bit and possibly file a bug on cleaning that up
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# [18:56] <nemo> and my bug that I filed against webkit hasn't been touched :(
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# [18:56] <@bz> nemo: What makes you think they ever will?
# [18:57] <nemo> the javascript fix to reload the page on viewport resize is just stupid
# [18:57] <@bz> nemo: oh?
# [18:57] <@bz> nemo: Brings back memories of netscape 4!
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# [18:57] <nemo> I tried modifying the stylesheet to trigger fix, but that only worked in one browser
# [18:57] <@bz> nemo: which needs just that do deal with CSS properly
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# [18:57] <nemo> webkit I think, not MSHTML. I forget
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# [18:57] <nemo> oh. the lovely thing is that onwindowresize was triggering infinite refresh in firefox only, so I guess I'll need to make the refresh smarter, or start UA checking
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# [18:58] <nemo> probably shouldn't refresh in firefox anyway, since you guys do it right :(
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# [18:58] <nemo> referring to http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase272.xhtml
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# [18:58] <nemo> bz: dunno. I figure if I nag them enough, they'll fix it. or I guess the JS fix will be embarassing enough
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# [18:59] <nemo> hmmm. I should just do the stylesheet workaround. I think then just MSHTML would be left out in the cold
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# [19:00] <nemo> as usual caniuse.com liiiiiies
# [19:00] <@bz> nemo: file bugs?
# [19:00] <nemo> bz: well. I filed webkit one months ago
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# [19:00] <nemo> bz: IE, no clue how to file bugs, and getting sick of it anyway. in one of their test periods, I filed a bunch of stuff
# [19:00] <nemo> using their interface for it
# [19:00] <nemo> as far as I can tell it disappeared down a black hole
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# [19:00] <nemo> for example, the crasher in their HTML parsing was never fixed
# [19:01] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/crash_ie.html - reported this one like... 3 years ago?
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# [19:01] <nemo> doesn't break new rendered, but old-school compat mode renderer is screwed
# [19:02] <NeilAway> bz: hmm, I don't suppose you can create the refresh driver as needed, the first time frames get swapped?
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# [19:02] <@bz> nemo: I meant a bug on caniuse
# [19:02] <nemo> bz: ah. I contacted him too, explained some areas I thought they were inaccurate
# [19:02] <@bz> NeilAway: no, for obvious reasons....
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# [19:02] <nemo> never got a response on those either. or fixes
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# [19:03] <nemo> bz: for example, for years they've claimed full support for svg background images, but if you tried doing animated svg in opera and webkit you got some rather random and broken behaviour. even more so in opera. reported that one, never changed.
# [19:03] <nemo> Firefox at least renders. renders incredibly inefficiently, but renders :)
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# [19:03] <nemo> webkit has gotten better for those recently.
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# [19:05] <@ted> bz: yeah, review, i know
# [19:05] <@bz> ted: sorry, just really looking forward to that bug being fixed. ;)
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# [19:09] <jlebar> mwu: how do I unzip omni.ja? When I simply |unzip| on mac, I get an error about extra bytes at the beginning or within the file.
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# [19:10] <mwu> jlebar: should unzip anyways
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# [19:10] <jlebar> mwu: okay. What's lost if I unzip and then rezip the dir?
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> Optimizations
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# [19:10] <Ms2ger> Just ordering, IIRC
# [19:10] <mwu> jlebar: no big deal for your purpose
# [19:10] <mwu> we order and we also strip unnecessary data
# [19:11] <jlebar> mwu: I see. Okay.
# [19:11] <jlebar> Thanks.
# [19:11] <@ted> ordering, some zipfile optimization tricks (which is what unzip is complaining about), and de-duplication, IIRC
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# [19:16] <@khuey> dholbert: ping
# [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7f95f7e03542 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 843248 - Metro tiles sometimes not working because of session 0 detection. r=jimm
# [19:17] <bbondy> catlee: Is it ok if I create a new nightly build for m-c?
# [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31daf94fb0a4 - Christian Ascheberg - Bug 842692 - Plugin click-to-play play button has default cursor. r=jaws
# [19:17] <Sentry> Question, I am new. I got an issue where I have pulled down a version of mozilla-central. Made some changes (multiple times). And now my diff file for the patch submission is incorrect.
# [19:18] <Sentry> how can I pull down a clean tree? hg update doesn't pull down commited versions of the file
# [19:18] <@khuey> Sentry: hg pull and then hg update
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# [19:19] <@ted> mbrubeck: ping
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# [19:19] <catlee> bbondy: RyanVM would know better
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# [19:20] <RyanVM> bbondy: can we wait until your push at least shows some semblance of green?
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# [19:20] <dougt> anyone know about console.log
# [19:20] <bbondy> RyanVM: ya that would be fine. Once it is green can I kick off a new Nightly build?
# [19:20] <RyanVM> bbondy: nevermind that there's also already one set of nightly respins already going...
# [19:20] <mbrubeck> dougt: yeah, that's the thing that VidyoReplay hates!
# [19:20] <jimm> dougt: I noticed that the other day too. it was around 3 megs on my system.
# [19:21] <dougt> yeah. wth.
# [19:21] <RyanVM> bbondy: if the respins on the last push are finished and windows builds are green on yours, go for it
# [19:21] <dougt> jimm: you file a bug?
# [19:21] <bbondy> RyanVM: k thanks
# [19:21] <jimm> dougt: no :/
# [19:21] <dholbert> khuey, pong
# [19:22] <jimm> dougt: checking again, it is back.
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# [19:23] <@khuey> dholbert: I'm not convinced 843308 is actually a bug
# [19:23] <dholbert> khuey, me either, per my comments there
# [19:23] <sewardj> bent: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2164653
# [19:24] <dholbert> khuey, it boils down to whether we want to consider removed CSS backgrounds as discarded or not, IIUC
# [19:24] <dholbert> (s/discarded/discardable/ I guess)
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# [19:24] <@khuey> well I think it's more complicated than that
# [19:24] <mbrubeck> Sentry: My connection dropped so I didn't see if someone answered your question... if you want a clean tree, you can use "hg up -c <changeset>" where <changeset> is the ID of the revision you want to update to. If you have local changes that you want to discard, you can do "hg revert -a" first. And if you are using the mq extension, you should do "hg qpop -a" first.
# [19:24] <@khuey> if you assign the same animated thing to two different things at different times
# [19:24] <@khuey> should they be in sync or not
# [19:25] <@khuey> this seems like it needs a spec resolution
# [19:25] <@khuey> dholbert: ^
# [19:25] <dholbert> khuey, they should be. (or at least, they are right now)
# [19:25] <@khuey> well they are right now in firefox
# [19:25] <dholbert> khuey, per the bug that i linked to about how animated images share state
# [19:25] <dholbert> right
# [19:25] <dholbert> and chrome
# [19:25] <@khuey> at least if the animated things are in the same doc
# [19:25] <dholbert> ah right
# [19:25] <@khuey> if they're cross-doc this all goes out hte window
# [19:25] <dholbert> khuey, I'd recommend avoiding that discussion for the purposes of this bug
# [19:25] <@khuey> heh
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# [19:26] <dholbert> that's covered by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332973 and has a much broader scope
# [19:26] <jimm> dougt: looks like it is related to running tests
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# [19:26] <@khuey> is that still true?
# [19:26] <@khuey> I thought our image cache was per-doc now?
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# [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43af5bd72395 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 771578 - Part 1: Reindent xpcshell test runner Python files; rs=ted
# [19:27] <dholbert> khuey, oh really? I wasn't aware of that, but I may have missed that
# [19:28] <@khuey> well I thought we fiddles with this when we added CORS support for img
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# [19:28] <@khuey> but maybe not
# [19:28] <@khuey> anyways, not terribly relevant
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# [19:29] <dholbert> khuey, opening two copies of http://www.math.binghamton.edu/alex/animated_gifs.html side by side says we share animated state
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# [19:30] <@ted> wonder if anyone is using animated gifs on secure sites and if you could use that as a side channel information leak
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# [19:30] <dholbert> ted, I feel like we might have special handling for that, but I'm not sure
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# [19:31] <@khuey> mmm
# [19:31] <dholbert> khuey, so for the purposes of this new bug
# [19:31] <@khuey> that could be interesting
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# [19:31] <@ted> can you detect anything about the state of an animated gif you've loaded from another domain?
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# [19:32] <@khuey> you can draw it to a canvas I presume
# [19:32] <@khuey> so yes
# [19:32] <@khuey> you can get the pixel data
# [19:32] <dholbert> you can't get the pixel data cross-origin
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# [19:32] <@gavin> drawing a cross-origin image to a canvas taints the canvas and blocks the pixel-data getting methods
# [19:32] <dholbert> (drawing images from another origin to your canvas marks the canvas as write-only, to protect against that)
# [19:32] <dholbert> yeah
# [19:32] <@khuey> ah
# [19:32] <@khuey> ok
# [19:33] <@khuey> anyways
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# [19:33] <Sentry> so I have tried hg pull > hg update > hg revert --all
# [19:33] <@gavin> otherwise I would steal all your intranet infos
# [19:33] <@khuey> going back to what I care about
# [19:33] <dholbert> khuey, so the question is: when we remove a CSS background which happens to be the only instance of a given image, should sites be able to rely on us discarding that image immediately-ish?
# [19:33] <Sentry> the files I am having trouble with is a dictionary file
# [19:33] <Sentry> its not discarding the changes I have made to this file
# [19:33] <dholbert> khuey, previously they could; now we don't seem to discard it anymore, though
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# [19:34] <dholbert> khuey, I don't think sites should be making any assumptions about the animation timeline of animated images, per my comments on the bug
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# [19:34] <dholbert> khuey, however, I'm curious whether we intend to keep the image around in this case (and whether we'll eventually discard it, as I think we should)
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# [19:42] <Cwiiis> Is it possible to add a constructor to a struct in ipdl?
# [19:42] <jorendorff> gps: bootstrap.py doesn't seem to install virtualenv. it should, right?
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# [19:43] <Cwiiis> I ask, as gfx::Margin requires construction parameters so it's stopping me from using it in ipdl
# [19:43] <@khuey> ugh wtf
# [19:43] <@khuey> why is behavior spelled wrong in imagelib
# [19:43] <dholbert> khuey, fix it!
# [19:43] <Cwiiis> khuey, how is it spelt?
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# [19:43] <@khuey> with an extraneous 'u'
# [19:43] <jorendorff> Ms2ger: yes we do. plot thickens.
# [19:43] <Cwiiis> khuey, I think you'll find that's the correct way to spell it :)
# [19:43] <dholbert> khuey, darn brits :)
# [19:44] <@bz> Cwiiis: swimmingly
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# [19:44] <dholbert> I thought I required there being an explicit pro-American-English bias for comments spelled out somewhere (so, "color", not "colour", etc), but I don't have a reference for that
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# [19:45] * dholbert would hate to see comments about "the behaviour of the CSS 'color' property" w/ mixed american/brit styles
# [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/201b64ad48d8 - Jim Mathies - Bug 735008 - Land new splash screen and tile images for metro. r=shorlander. DONTBUILD
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# [19:46] <joe> dholbert: mColor = 'grey'
# [19:47] <gps> jorendorff: we use the in-tree virtualenv. we do this because we periodically have to cherry-pick upstream bug fixes from unreleased virtualenv :(
# [19:47] <@khuey> dholbert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843308#c10
# [19:48] <Ms2ger> dholbert, "the behaviour of the CSS 'colour' property"
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# [19:48] <jorendorff> gps: great. thanks. no idea what i was doing wrong
# [19:48] <jorendorff> probably clobbering would've fixed it
# [19:48] <joe> dholbert: also i think I guilted someone into naming imgRequestProxy::mBehaviour as that
# [19:48] <joe> khuey: oh hah, you just mentioned that
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# [19:49] <@khuey> yes
# [19:49] <@khuey> I now challenge you to single combat to the death
# [19:49] <@khuey> winner gets their preferred spelling
# [19:49] <joe> i feel like there's a downside that i'm not seeing
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# [19:52] <joe> khuey: haha, the canadian hegemony strikes again.
# [19:52] <joe> jdm++
# [19:52] <joe> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803121
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# [19:53] <@khuey> joe: yeah that's actually what I was complaining about
# [19:53] <joe> i know
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# [19:53] <joe> i was just wondering who had done it
# [19:54] <joe> i had a memory of guilting someone into spelling it correctly but obviously I didn't even have to
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# [19:54] <bent> bsmedberg, ping
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# [19:56] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: ping
# [19:57] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: pong
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# [19:58] <@bsmedberg> bent: pong
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# [19:58] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: wanted to give you a heads-up that I'm backing out bug 716859 again
# [19:58] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: why?
# [19:58] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: making android armv6 reftest-2 timeout with ~80% frequency
# [19:58] <RyanVM> (bug 820756)
# [19:58] <bent> bsmedberg, hey, can you think of a way that i can have libxul.so on a different drive than the rest of the binaries and have xpcom load properly?
# [19:59] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: can I take a look before you back me out?
# [19:59] <RyanVM> sure
# [19:59] <bent> bsmedberg, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't seem to cut it
# [19:59] <vlad> yes, please do not back out.. worst case disable any webgl crap on armv6 reftests
# [19:59] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: vlad: you can see the retriggers on tbpl too
# [19:59] <@bsmedberg> bent: you're using the standalone glue?
# [19:59] <lsblakk> dholbert: ping
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# [19:59] <@bsmedberg> it should be possible using the standalone glue, although you might need to modify the glue to load from multiple locations
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# [20:00] <bent> bsmedberg, using whatever firefox normally does on linux i think (though this is b2g)
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# [20:00] <gw280> omg streaming buffers landed?
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> bent: well, there's firefox itself and then there's p-c for content processes
# [20:00] <gw280> :-O
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> they may use different things, I'm not sure
# [20:00] <bent> hm
# [20:00] <dholbert> lsblakk, pong
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> bent: anyway, the glue preloads all the dependent DLLs
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> so you should be able to put them on a different driver
# [20:00] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: vlad: push before bug 716859 - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=de2bb5efa079
# [20:00] <bent> bsmedberg, so far i haven't gotten far enough to worry about p-c
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> bent: or you could just symlink it... ?
# [20:01] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: vlad: bug 716859 push - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=b46c006a7696
# [20:01] <bent> i tried symlinking, it didn't work
# [20:01] <@bsmedberg> what's the symptom of "didn't work"?
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# [20:01] <bent> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /system/b2g/libxpcom.so:
# [20:01] <bent> Cannot load library: link_image[1936]: 585 could not load needed library 'libxul.so' for 'libxpcom.so' (load_segments[915]: 585 failed to map segment from 'libxul.so' @ 0x40513000 (0x01431700). p_vaddr=0x00000000 p_offset=0x00000000)
# [20:01] <bent> Couldn't load XPCOM.
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# [20:03] <@bsmedberg> and there's a symlink /system/b2g/libxul.so which points elsewhere?
# [20:03] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: can we increase the timeout?
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# [20:04] <RyanVM> catlee ^
# [20:04] <catlee> jrmuizel: write faster code!
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# [20:04] <bent> bsmedberg, yep
# [20:04] <jrmuizel> catlee: or increase the reftest split
# [20:05] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: the maddening thing is how it became sort of bimodal
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# [20:05] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: yeah
# [20:05] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: some runs still complete in ~60min
# [20:05] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: that's very weird
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> bent: then I don't know. We're supposed to be loading libxul *before* libxpcom, so the real error is probably before that.
# [20:05] <RyanVM> but that makes me wonder whether there is some real issue going on
# [20:05] <catlee> what is the timeout?
# [20:05] <vlad> yeah, this seems like an 'increase timeout' situation
# [20:05] <vlad> timeout seems to be 1hr?
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# [20:06] <vlad> also, seems like we should have all tests print a timestamp before their logging stuff
# [20:06] <vlad> so that we can see what actually took so long
# [20:06] <RyanVM> I guess mozharness does that, doesn't it?
# [20:06] <bent> bsmedberg, hm, ok
# [20:06] <RyanVM> ha, but reftests aren't on that yet
# [20:07] <jrmuizel> can we make a compromise of increasing the timeout so that we can keep the code around and I'll look into what's taking too long?
# [20:07] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: vlad: and yes, the webgl reftests are in that suite
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# [20:07] <vlad> yeah, I know
# [20:07] <RyanVM> I honestly don't know what it takes to increase that timeout
# [20:08] <jrmuizel> catlee: do you know?
# [20:08] <RyanVM> disabling all of the webgl reftests seems like a bad option too
# [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c8353e38b3b - Brad Lassey - Bug 843361 - Read proc names more efficiently r=mfinkle
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# [20:08] <catlee> jrmuizel: it depends on what's actually running the code
# [20:08] <catlee> jrmuizel: either a mozharness change or buildbot change
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# [20:09] <jrmuizel> catlee: how do I find out?
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# [20:10] <catlee> actually, looks like it's here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/automation.py.in#1046
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# [20:11] <jlebar> baku: ping
# [20:12] <catlee> jrmuizel: looks like the test harness is setting that somewhre
# [20:12] <baku> jlebar, pong
# [20:12] <jlebar> baku: when the music app pauses its music, does that kill its audio channel? Or does it potentially still have an active channel?
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# [20:13] <ojan> have you all found developers using/asking for the "element" CSS function?
# [20:13] <ojan> we're vaguely considering implementing it for Chrome
# [20:14] <ojan> curious if developers are using it or have good use cases for it
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# [20:14] <@khuey> you mean like moz-element?
# [20:14] <@smaug> paul: you might know ^
# [20:14] <@khuey> or is element something else?
# [20:15] <@smaug> (since roc isn't here)
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# [20:15] <ojan> yeah
# [20:15] <ojan> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/element
# [20:15] <baku> jlebar, the audio channel service knows only playing apps
# [20:15] <jlebar> baku: hm.
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# [20:15] <jlebar> baku: okay. I'll get back to you in a few minutes, then. :)
# [20:15] <mbrubeck> ojan: We're currently using it in Firefox chrome for the Win8 Metro UI, to display live thumbnails in the tab bar.
# [20:15] <baku> jlebar, ok :)
# [20:16] <@bz> ojan: we added it because we had use cases for it...
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# [20:16] <ojan> hah
# [20:16] <mbrubeck> (We'll need to make some performance improvements if we want to keep using it there, though.)
# [20:16] <Nikhil> Hi all...I would like to contribute to mozilla as a part of gsoc.....
# [20:16] <@bz> ojan: As for developers, they may not be telling us anything, since they can just use it. :(
# [20:16] <mbrubeck> Nikhil: hi!
# [20:16] <ojan> yeah, the only use-case i came up with was for creating the thumbnails in Google presentations. essentially the same problem
# [20:17] <mbrubeck> Nikhil: I don't think that we have much official info about GSoC 2013 yet, but it should appear at https://wiki.mozilla.org/GSoC once it's ready.
# [20:17] <Nikhil> mbrubeck:hi
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# [20:17] <mbrubeck> In the meantime, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction (and the #introduction channel on IRC) have some useful tips if you want to start working with Firefox code.
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# [20:17] <Nikhil> Is it possible that i can present my own ide?
# [20:17] <Nikhil> *idea?
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# [20:18] <ojan> ok...thanks. i'm still inclined to implement it...not sure we'll have the time to do it anytime soon though.
# [20:18] <ojan> mbrubeck: just curious, what sorts of performance problems are you having with it?
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# [20:19] <jrmuizel> catlee: automation.py.in seems to print a different message
# [20:19] <mbrubeck> Nikhil: You can propose your idea on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13:Brainstorming and maybe try to find a potential mentor to help refine the idea...
# [20:19] <jrmuizel> catlee: it includes "of seconds"
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# [20:20] <mbrubeck> ojan: I haven't looked into it deeply, but it seems to hurt the performance of the CSS transitions we use to slide in the thumbnail container.
# [20:21] <jrmuizel> catlee: seems to be remoteautomation.py
# [20:21] <jlebar> baku: so what's supposed to happen when we pause the music app? Is it supposed to unregister its audio channel agent?
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# [20:21] <jlebar> baku: The audio-channel business we have in ProcessPriorityManager.cpp does not appear to be sufficient, since it's only tracking the adding/removing of audio channel agents, but that does not appear to correspond to music starting/stopping.
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# [20:22] <jlebar> baku: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843417
# [20:22] <baku> jlebar, I have to say thjat I'm not 100% sure about pausing
# [20:22] <baku> let me check
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# [20:23] <jlebar> baku: Or what if the audio channel gets muted by someone else, or gets muted because we're no longer visible?
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# [20:23] <jrmuizel> catlee: does it make more sense to increase the timeout or split the reftest job more?
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# [20:24] <baku> jlebar, the mute generated by the audi ochannel service and the someone mute are different
# [20:24] <jlebar> baku: understood, but I'm not sure we're handling either case correctly
# [20:24] <baku> jlebar, tell me more :)
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# [20:25] <jlebar> baku: because certainly when the audio channel service mutes the channel, it doesn't remove it, right? So then the ppm (process priority manager) doesn't get notified.
# [20:25] <jlebar> So that case doesn't seem workable.
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# [20:25] <jlebar> baku: And when the music player app pauses, it /also/ doesn't seem to remove its audio channel.
# [20:26] <baku> jlebar, that seems wrong.
# [20:26] <baku> jlebar, I have t ogo. but if you can spend 2 secs writing me an email
# [20:26] <baku> jlebar, I promise you I'll answer :)
# [20:26] <jlebar> baku: I'll comment in the bug, if that's OK?
# [20:26] <baku> jlebar, or I can comment your comments
# [20:26] <baku> jlebar, sounds perfect!
# [20:26] <baku> jlebar, tnx
# [20:26] <jlebar> baku: cool. cya
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# [20:32] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: I'm wary of "work around this problem for now and I'll fix it later"
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# [20:34] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: well currently it's work around this problem for now and I'll fix it now
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# [20:35] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: but I understand the wariness
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# [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be1f3e460255 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 841899 - Remove stream-based logging from Signaling code r=jesup
# [20:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01428f7e56f0 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 797628 - Use a 320x480 emulator by default, r=ahal
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# [20:50] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: you need to check with mconley, not me
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# [20:50] <mconley> tbsaunde: aroo?
# [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/353df9231150 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 843729 - deviceSerial -> _deviceSerial, r=ahal, DONTBUILD (NPOTB)
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# [20:50] <mconley> ah, treeview stuff
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# [20:52] <NeilAway> bz: sorry, not knowing about refresh drivers, I can honestly say that it's not obvious, but I'll take your word for it ;-)
# [20:52] <mconley> tbsaunde: there are still some problems with aceman's TB patch, so landing that would make TB Daily un-usable.
# [20:52] <tbsaunde> mconley: yeah
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# [20:52] <mconley> tbsaunde: I'll poke at aceman's patch tonight, see if we can get it off the ground.
# [20:53] <tbsaunde> mconley: ah, ok, thanks
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# [20:53] <@dveditz> GPHemsley: why did you switch my “depends on” to “blocking”? I’m about to reverse that but open to good arguments
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# [20:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/885cde564ff3 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 82747d694e7a (bug 716859) for android reftest-2 timeouts
# [20:53] <GPHemsley> dveditz: Per your summary, eliminating the whitelist would only happen after the new list was implemented, no?
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# [20:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/702d2814efbf - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
# [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/201b64ad48d8 - Jim Mathies - Bug 735008 - Land new splash screen and tile images for metro. r=shorlander. DONTBUILD
# [20:55] <@dveditz> yes... but it’s a requirement from a security review so the security review “depends on” those bugs to be complete
# [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7863019511c - Brian Nicholson - Bug 842395 - Remove areClientsAvailable() from TabsAccessor. r=mfinkle
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# [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f95f7e03542 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 843248 - Metro tiles sometimes not working because of session 0 detection. r=jimm
# [20:55] <@dveditz> I guess the feature landing doesn’t “depend on it”, maybe that’s where the misrodering is
# [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d57a813c77a4 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 843248 - Upgrading with maintenance service from a non metro build to a metro build does not show tile. r=jimm
# [20:55] <GPHemsley> dveditz: Bug 843689 will not be fixed until bug 722299 is fixed, so the former depends on the latter.
# [20:56] <Nikhil> Hi all..I am trying to clone Gaia(B2G) for desktop...Does anyone know how big the repository is ??
# [20:56] <@dveditz> ok... I
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# [20:56] <@dveditz> grant that one... but it’s wrong for the secreview bug
# [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/fb4ca44342cc - Brad Lassey - Bug 843361 - Read proc names more efficiently r=mfinkle a=lsblakk
# [20:56] <@smaug> Nikhil: better to ask #b2g
# [20:57] <@dveditz> (which are used more as tracking bugs)
# [20:57] <GPHemsley> dveditz: And doesn't bug 840036 need to be fixed before bug 722299 is fixed?
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# [20:57] <@dveditz> GPHemsley: you’d think... we often do post-facto security reviews
# [20:58] <@dveditz> but in any case I’m about to close 840036
# [20:58] <GPHemsley> dveditz: Ah, well, in that case, the dependency is the other way around.
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# [20:58] <GPHemsley> dveditz: You're welcome to change it. I just figured it was an accident.
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# [20:59] <@dveditz> secreview bugs are backwards --
# [20:59] <NeilAway> Cwiiis++
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# [21:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d297cd2c596 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 842797 - Rename GeckoAsyncTask to UiAsyncTask. r=mfinkle
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# [21:02] <BenWa> khuey: RE bug 819454. Mossop landed a patch that disable NukeCrossCompartmentWrappers on optimized and non optimized build. While in the platform we only disabled it for optimized build. I wanted you to weight in wether that was ok
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# [21:10] <nbp> who is responsible for https://blog.mozilla.org/planet/2013/02/20/planet-additions-class-of-2212013/ I want to ask the author to modify part of its content
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# [21:12] <GPHemsley> dveditz: I'm confused. Why'd you remove the dependency on bug 722299?
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# [21:18] <@dveditz> GPHemsley: because it made a circle
# [21:19] <@dveditz> GPHemsley: one was linked by work order, and the other wsa linked by “stuff generated from a review” order
# [21:19] <@dveditz> so it’s still there in the tree, just not directly
# [21:19] <Nikhil> Hey guys how do i run b2g?? I have the repository in my git..
# [21:20] <@dveditz> oh boy
# [21:20] <@dveditz> Nikhil: if you just want to run it you should get nightly builds
# [21:20] <@dveditz> if you want to build it we have a lot of docs
# [21:20] <Nikhil> dveditz:No..I would also like to make changes.
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# [21:21] <@dveditz> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Firefox_OS_build_prerequisites
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# [21:22] <@dveditz> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Building
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# [21:22] <@dveditz> or even more b2g topics: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/tag/B2G
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# [21:23] <@dveditz> but those two building ones should get you going
# [21:23] <@dveditz> if not a better channel is #b2g
# [21:23] <@dveditz> (though of course there are a lot of people in both channels who can help)
# [21:23] <Nikhil> Thanks a lot
# [21:24] <@dveditz> the main page https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS doesn’t seem to link to the building docs for some reason
# [21:24] <@dveditz> but has other useful stuff, like the mailing lists
# [21:24] <@dveditz> and the debugging link you’ll probably want
# [21:25] <@dveditz> Nikhil: make changes to what though?
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# [21:25] <@dveditz> There’s the Gecko OS layer, and then there’s the HTML/JS system (Gaia) layer
# [21:25] <@dveditz> you can play with Gaia and apps without doing the heavy Gecko builds
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# [21:26] <@dveditz> but if you want to put it on a phone eventually then you do want to build the whole thing
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# [21:29] <Nikhil> dveditz:I am interested in contributing to Gaia as part of a gsoc project...
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# [21:31] <avih> padenot: fyi, latest m-c compiles without missing symbols :)
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# [21:35] <glandium> bsmedberg: but the more i changed things to use that the more i wanted to add one
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# [21:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67f2a2816651 - William Lachance - Bug 842668 - Should always use dd instead of cp in b2g reftest/mochitest;r=ahal
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# [21:51] <mbrubeck> gps: Yeah, looks like it's because there's no build-system.hg at http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bundles/
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# [22:01] <Mossop> rail-buildduty: Why might I have so many failing tests here https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=674601774f72 is it something to do with me pushing an aurora tree there?
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# [22:02] <gozala> do you have a minute
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# [22:02] <gozala> we talked about it before, but it seems like there are some platform specific issues
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# [22:07] <rail-buildduty> Mossop: the only thing that I can think of is the repair of the haxxor door (tegras are there) which happened ~10:20-11:10 PST
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# [22:08] <Mossop> rail-buildduty: Ok, maybe I'll try re-pushing later then
# [22:08] <rail-buildduty> yeah
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# [22:12] <glandium> so... looks like we *are* going to import ICU... sigh
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# [22:17] <philor> Mossop / rail-buildduty : yes, that's from pushing aurora, if you want android to run on try you have to revert the branding changes in https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/db9384d590d5 for the flavors you want to run, because that affects the package name and buildbot is only willing to try to run the nightly package name
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# [22:18] <Mossop> Ah ok
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# [22:18] <rail-buildduty> oh, I misread the original question then
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# [22:20] <GPHemsley> dveditz: But bug 843689 is directly dependent on bug 722299, regardless of the secreview.
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# [22:27] <seth> is it me or has try been even more overloaded than usual for the past couple of days?
# [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41dea0da21db - Bobby Holley - Bug 842940 - Don't squelch exceptions in Proxy::get. r=jorendorff
# [22:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81290fcf5990 - Bobby Holley - Bug 842940 - Remove another instance of cx->isExceptionPending(). r=jorendorff
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# [22:33] <johns> seth: You'll start an arms race
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# [22:36] <@dveditz> GPHemsley: I disagree... we could eliminate the whitelist at any time or never
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# [22:36] <@dveditz> would be bad/stupid to do so before 722299 lands
# [22:37] <@dveditz> but it shouldn’t be immediately after either
# [22:37] <GPHemsley> dveditz: Your summary specifically calls out bug 722299 twice. There is no distinction between hard dependencies and soft dependencies.
# [22:37] <@dveditz> ok, here’s my practical problem:
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# [22:38] <@dveditz> if I make 843689 depend on 722299 (which makes logical sense) then it cannot block the secreview bug
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# [22:38] <@dveditz> If I have to choose one or the other, by blocking the secreview bug I’m more confident we’ll follow up and notice whether it’s done or not
# [22:39] <GPHemsley> why do you have to choose?
# [22:39] <@dveditz> since for our component the difference between resolved and VERIFIED secreviews is whether all the dependencies are handled
# [22:39] <@dveditz> because bugzilla won’t let me create circular dependency lists
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# [22:40] <@dveditz> 843689 -> 722299 -> 840036 -> 843689 oops
# [22:40] <@dveditz> I have to chop one end off
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# [22:40] <GPHemsley> This problem all started because you do post-facto security reviews ;)
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# [22:41] <@dveditz> or make 722299 depend on 843689 like I started doing, even though it’s “not right” technically
# [22:41] <@dveditz> well, not really
# [22:41] <@dveditz> we often have reviews done in the right order whose dependencies are “do X, but you can do that after you land the reviewed thing”
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# [22:41] <@dveditz> (as long as it’s before shipping)
# [22:42] <GPHemsley> actually, wait
# [22:42] <GPHemsley> how does eliminating the whitelist block the secreview of the feature that is replacing it?
# [22:42] <@dveditz> it’s an action item generated from the review
# [22:43] <GPHemsley> (especially given that you've already resolved the supposedly-blocked bug)
# [22:43] <@dveditz> as I mentioned earlier secreviews are more like tracking bugs since they don’t themselves have any code
# [22:44] <@dveditz> but we got complaints when leaving them open because they appeared to block developers landing their stuff, when really we may be waiting for future work to happen
# [22:44] <GPHemsley> so the problem is actually that any given secreview bug is both the start and the end of the process
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# [22:45] <GPHemsley> which means that there is a dependency loop in reality, not just Bugzilla
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# [22:45] <GPHemsley> right?
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# [22:46] <@dveditz> mostly it works right... <feature> -> <secreview> -> <actions to improve feature>
# [22:47] <@dveditz> sometimes the actions are not linear like that
# [22:47] <@dveditz> mostly they are
# [22:47] <@dveditz> (such that the actions really do need to be fixed before <feature> lands and/or ships)
# [22:48] <@dveditz> strictly speaking? I would like 722299 to have a hard dependency on “eliminate the whitelist”
# [22:48] <@dveditz> because it weakens the new code
# [22:48] <@dveditz> Gerv argues that might break things, and wants an overlap period
# [22:48] <GPHemsley> it seems to me that if it's not linear, a new bug should be created to make it linear... or else ignore the complaints
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# [22:49] <@dveditz> if it weren’t for a concession to a testing period there would be no problems with the dependency ordering I originally used
# [22:49] <@dveditz> it would express exactly what I wanted to happen
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# [22:51] <BenWa> khuey: That's what I am asking. Is it safe to just remove on shutdown for both optimized and non optimized?
# [22:51] <@dveditz> GPHemsley: we have a similar nonsense relationship when regressions are found... The bug is long fixed, and then suddenly it “depends on” some later thing?
# [22:52] <@dveditz> but if you consider having to port the original fix to a new branch that does make sense
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# [22:52] <@dveditz> it would make MORE sense if we had a richer set of relationships we could use
# [22:52] <mbrubeck> My "mach mochitest-browser" is failing with an "ImportError: DLL load failed" at the "import sqlite3" in automation.py
# [22:53] <mbrubeck> I wonder if this has anything to do with my installing ted's MozillaBuild 1.7pre
# [22:53] <GPHemsley> dveditz: It seems to me that this problem would be fixed by either (a) creating a second secreview meta bug to track dependencies, or (b) leave the original secreview bug open and have the problems it brings up block it.
# [22:54] <@khuey> ted: ^ did you mess with python
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# [22:54] <@khuey> BenWa: well the failure case is just leaking, so "safe" doesn't seem like a very strong requirement
# [22:54] <@khuey> BenWa: fwiw, we are only not doing CCs in opt builds
# [22:54] <GPHemsley> dveditz: Then you'd have: problems -> secreview -> new feature implementation -> old feature removal
# [22:54] <@khuey> BenWa: seems like it would make sense for jetpack to match that ...
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# [22:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b831500ca4be - David Anderson - Prevent GC from occuring during IC linking (bug 837714, r=bhackett).
# [22:54] <@khuey> BenWa: for debugging purposes if nothing else
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# [22:54] <GPHemsley> (where x -> y means x blocks y)
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# [22:55] <BenWa> khuey: Yes that was my though. But I don't understand the low level details of this so I wanted confirmation
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# [22:57] <aki> mbrubeck: https://bugs.launchpad.net/virtualenv/+bug/352844/comments/3 ?
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# [22:57] <aki> mbrubeck: if that's it, i recommend we rebuild to be for all users rather than have to copy that dll everywhere
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# [22:58] <mbrubeck> aki: That doesn't look like what I'm seeing
# [22:59] <aki> ok
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# [22:59] <mbrubeck> also, hmm, now it's working?
# [22:59] <aki> heh
# [22:59] <GPHemsley> dveditz: Frankly, I don't understand why someone would complain about the bug staying open. If the secreview doesn't block from landing, then perhaps it doesn't block the feature, but depends on it?
# [22:59] <mbrubeck> maybe I just messed up my enviroment somehow (all I did just now was close my terminal and open a new one)
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# [23:22] <@dbaron> philor, over?
# [23:23] <philor> dbaron: if this is my lunch hour, I must be backing out bustage
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# [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c126d076b0d - Phil Ringnalda - Back out b831500ca4be (bug 837714) for bustage
# [23:24] <NeilAway> why does everyone think PERMS_DIRECTORY is 0755?
# [23:25] <philor> opened at 13:55:21, bustage landed at 13:55:58, I love my avocation
# [23:25] <jcranmer|away> NeilAway: I thought it was 0777! :-)
# [23:26] <NeilAway> jcranmer|away: it should be!
# [23:26] <NeilAway> jcranmer|away: but all the hits in MXR have it as 0755 :-(
# [23:27] <philor> dvander: could you mark my backout of your push in your bug to which I don't have access?
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# [23:29] <mbrubeck> ted: It looks like my "import sqlite3" error is in fact related to MozillaBuild 1.7pre... or at least it went away when downgrading to MozillaBuild 1.6
# [23:30] <mbrubeck> It happened when running "mach mochitest-browser" with a debug build -- but not in a non-debug build (with all other options and code identical, as far as I can tell).
# [23:30] <philor> sweet, jrmuizel, guess what I'm about to do?
# [23:30] <NeilAway> jcranmer|away: ah, ben%beng 32-Apr-05
# [23:30] <jrmuizel> philor: why?
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# [23:30] <philor> jrmuizel: still running webgl mochitests, just failing them
# [23:30] <jrmuizel> philor: hmm
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# [23:31] <jrmuizel> philor: that does feel wrong
# [23:32] <philor> that burning sensation lets you know you're looking at the webgl mochitests
# [23:32] <jrmuizel> philor: give me a second
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# [23:32] <joe> apply cold water directly to webgl mochitests
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# [23:38] <dholbert> [late to the party] do we have a fix for the android mochitest-1 orange in the pipe already? (looks like it might be from jgilbert's push)
# [23:39] <joe> yes
# [23:39] <joe> jrmuizel is working on it
# [23:39] <dholbert> cool
# [23:40] <jgilbert> the cursed changeset
# [23:41] <philor> I can't believe we don't have a picture of someone desperately clinging to a tree with blood running from their fingertips
# [23:41] <philor> quick poll, since I only have four minutes left
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# [23:41] <joe> aw Boriss threw away her tree's closed png
# [23:42] <Boriss> wut, nothing's thrown away on the internet. want it?
# [23:42] <joe> on imgur maybe
# [23:42] <Boriss> i never put it on imgur, maybe someone else did
# [23:42] <joe> no i mean
# [23:42] <sheppy> A little nerd fail going on here: what's the right way to specify a fixed width for the columns in a table these days?
# [23:42] <joe> yes i want it
# [23:42] <joe> on imgur maybe
# [23:42] <jrmuizel> philor: I've pushed a fix
# [23:42] <Boriss> gotcha
# [23:42] <philor> if you had a test fail, and when you look at the log for the run it lists the cset above your in a bunch of spew, would you think "of course, that must be an unused buildbot variable" or would you think "that didn't really run on me, it's probably the fault of the person who pushed after me"?
# [23:43] <jrmuizel> philor: if that doesn't fix it feel free to take it all out
# [23:43] <dholbert> khuey, are you gonna post on that animated background bug, or should I?
# [23:43] <Boriss> joe: http://imgur.com/LwWDgWd
# [23:43] <joe> philor: i would probably run screaming
# [23:43] <philor> jrmuizel: pushed, or bounced off the closed tree hook?
# [23:43] <jrmuizel> philor: bounced
# [23:43] <dholbert> khuey, (I think the comment would mean more coming from you, since I've already posted wontfix-flavored comments, and you're the one who authored the "regressing" patch)
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# [23:44] <seth> dholbert: what's the bug number? morbid curiosity here
# [23:44] <philor> and there's no me backing it out, I have 1 minute left and then I'll be back to a tree at 7:30
# [23:44] <dholbert> seth, :) one sec
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# [23:44] <dholbert> seth, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843308
# [23:44] <joe> jeff is pawing ineffectually at the closed hook
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# [23:44] <philor> CLOSED TREE two words
# [23:45] <joe> yeah
# [23:45] <joe> on the first line is what he missed
# [23:45] <philor> nope, I always hide mine on the second line anymore, just to be difficult
# [23:45] <joe> ok well it didn't work
# [23:45] <joe> hm
# [23:45] <philor> note my backout not clueing anyone watching here in that it was there and the tree was closed :)
# [23:46] <joe> oh god
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# [23:46] <joe> we are awful at reading
# [23:46] <joe> it needs a bug number
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# [23:46] <jrmuizel> finally
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# [23:47] <joe> <jrmuizel-out-loud> "when that gets backed out, i'm going to be away, so if someone wants to land it again, feel free"
# [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c64bae71de5 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bustage fix for bug 716859. r=bjacob,joe CLOSED TREE
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# [23:48] <seth> dholbert: wow, this issue (timelines aren't per-instance) seems to come up a fair amount, or at least i seem to keep stumbling on bugs about it
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# [23:48] <dholbert> yeah... they all boil down to that one bug I linked to in my first comment there
# [23:49] <bnicholson> jdm: ping
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# [23:49] <jdm> bnicholson: 'sup dawg
# [23:49] <dholbert> khuey, so this might end up being a case of "leave open, depending on [animated images share state]", rather than wontfix
# [23:49] <bnicholson> jdm: hey, there's something wrong with the way private contexts are set in fennec - see bug 842015
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# [23:50] <bnicholson> jdm: is this still the right thing to do? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/chrome/content/browser.js#2826
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# [23:50] <jdm> eer
# [23:50] <jdm> eep
# [23:50] <jdm> probably not
# [23:50] <jdm> I don't know how supported that is now
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# [23:51] <jdm> bnicholson: but wow, that's a weird symptom of something that you're seeing
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# [23:52] <bnicholson> jdm: yeah...so what's the right way to do this now?
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# [23:53] <jdm> bnicholson: so in the browser, we open windows with the "private" window feature
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# [23:54] <seth> i just realized that i've come to enjoy receiving bugmail
# [23:54] <mfinkle> jdm, we don't open windows
# [23:54] <seth> possibly a bad sign
# [23:54] <jdm> yeah, that's a difficulty
# [23:54] <dholbert> seth, see a psychologist about that
# [23:54] <mfinkle> bnicholson, so none of our tabs are really private?
# [23:55] <dholbert> seth, in the meantime, you should consider watching whole components, if you don't already. :) good way to step up your bugmail & help out w/ triage
# [23:55] <jdm> mfinkle: no, I suspect you're getting private tabs
# [23:55] <bnicholson> mfinkle: they are...somehow, opening private tabs is causing normal tabs to become private
# [23:56] <bnicholson> the only place we set a private context on a tab anywhere is here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/chrome/content/browser.js#2826
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# [23:56] <seth> dholbert: ah! i was meaning to set that up but completely forgot
# [23:57] <seth> dholbert: doing so now. this may cure me of my love of bugmail real quick heh
# [23:57] <dholbert> seth, heh :) I definitely recommend using filters to separate watched bugmail from bugmail-on-bugs-you're-CC'd/assigned-on
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# [23:58] <jdm> I would drown without said filters
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# [23:59] <jduell> dholbert: what do you mean by "watched" bugmail? Bugs you've cc'd yourself on, vs getting email just because you're watching the component?
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# [23:59] <dholbert> jduell, component-watching, yeah
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